| 00:00.01 | Miravlix_ | SeaSpellbook is a Spellbook cache |
| 00:00.14 | AnduinLothar | like DynamicData? |
| 00:00.16 | Miravlix_ | to avoid multiple addons all scanning at the same time |
| 00:00.43 | Miravlix_ | Instead of RegisterEvents and scanning on there own they ReigsterScholar with the library |
| 00:01.19 | Miravlix_ | Also handles 99% of localization for them |
| 00:04.37 | Miravlix_ | http://cosmos.pastebin.com/680107 |
| 00:05.00 | Miravlix_ | In the middle of finalizing the table format. |
| 00:09.59 | Miravlix_ | People must think I'm nuts, the same toon standing in Stormwind and eveyr few minutes he lies down and sleep |
| 00:10.09 | Adrine | Hahaha, yeah |
| 00:10.20 | Adrine | I often wonder if people think I'm up to something sketchy when I'm developing mods |
| 00:10.28 | Miravlix_ | I updated Cosmos ReloadUI to DoEmote on reload and loging |
| 00:13.07 | Miravlix_ | Got tired of hanging with guildes and they never knew if they could talk to me |
| 00:13.23 | Miravlix_ | Now they know I'm sleeping when gone and I sit up when I'm back |
| 00:14.16 | Miravlix_ | Heh, changed it to yawn when I wake up |
| 00:14.34 | Miravlix_ | Very funny when I'm on my druid in bear form |
| 00:18.51 | Codayus | Hmmm. |
| 00:19.14 | Codayus | I might steal that code...sounds useful. :-) |
| 00:26.28 | Miravlix_ | wtb testers, I need a full compliment of level 60 chars to run SeaSpellbook once and then send me SeaSpellbook.lua froms savedvariables |
| 00:28.57 | MentalPower | lvl 60 priest |
| 00:32.30 | MentalPower | ~prod Miravlix_ |
| 00:32.32 | purl | ACTION zaps Miravlix_ with a high voltage cattle prod |
| 00:32.44 | MentalPower | heh, I like that one better |
| 00:32.46 | AnduinLothar | that's gotta sting |
| 00:33.55 | AnduinLothar | so, how bout we go with IsCasting and keep with the name trend |
| 00:40.51 | Miravlix_ | Give me a second to verify it. |
| 00:44.14 | Miravlix_ | Crap, it doesn't work embeded |
| 00:44.26 | Miravlix_ | It craps out on the tooltip being xml'ed multiple times |
| 00:52.47 | Miravlix_ | MentalPower: Hmm dcc not working? |
| 00:53.00 | MentalPower | try again |
| 00:53.07 | MentalPower | I wasn't paying attention |
| 00:55.05 | Miravlix_ | Anyone else level 60 and not a druid/priest that has time to run SeaSpellbook and give me the savedvariable file SeaSpellbook.lua? |
| 01:02.06 | *** join/#wowi-lounge bsodergren (i=sweede@71.194.83.65) |
| 01:02.10 | Osagasu | I have the time, but not the 60 non-druid/priest. :< |
| 01:02.31 | bsodergren | man.. this channel not being able to join without being identified ftl :| |
| 01:03.07 | MentalPower | hmm... |
| 01:03.10 | Miravlix_ | I would give my right toe for a working CreateFrame("GameTooltip") right now |
| 01:03.20 | Cairenn | I've turned it off time and again, not sure why it keeps resetting |
| 01:03.33 | MentalPower | Cairenn: can you check that with lilo and the ChanServ admin? |
| 01:03.40 | Iriel|working | Maybe the freenode folks made it a default? |
| 01:03.41 | Cairenn | I'll try to get in touch with one of the admins, yeah |
| 01:03.46 | MentalPower | it shoudn't be resetting if you change it |
| 01:04.01 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-R] by Cairenn |
| 01:04.02 | Iriel|working | I'm trying to find someone who has gotten a dynamic GameTooltip even SLIGHTLY working |
| 01:04.03 | Cairenn | see? |
| 01:04.25 | Tain | Unles chanserv has it set as a default for this channel, then it will set it back. |
| 01:04.27 | bsodergren | anyways, i cannot get SendChatMessage("It's Almost time to Raid!","GUILD") to send the msg to guild chat. It's being called in a function thats called on OnUpdate |
| 01:04.32 | Miravlix_ | Iriel|working: Whats slightly? |
| 01:04.46 | Miravlix_ | I can create the tooltip, I can talk with it |
| 01:04.52 | Miravlix_ | But I can't make it SetX |
| 01:05.08 | Iriel|working | Miravlix_ : Making it :SetX for even just one X |
| 01:05.09 | AnduinLothar | can you set the lines? |
| 01:05.15 | Miravlix_ | It wont populate the LeftX fields |
| 01:05.22 | Iriel|working | Miravlix_ : I managed to make the client crash on :SetUnit but I dont think that counts |
| 01:05.28 | Miravlix_ | Yeah SetX work AddlIne works |
| 01:05.40 | Miravlix_ | Let me pastebin my code |
| 01:05.46 | bsodergren | anyone ? |
| 01:05.51 | Iriel|working | SetX works? as in, shows up with a value in it? |
| 01:06.30 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : Are you sure it's being called? |
| 01:06.58 | bsodergren | yes, the other things that happen in the function, happen. |
| 01:07.19 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : Can you pastebin it (wow.pastebin.com) ? |
| 01:07.28 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : The function, that is |
| 01:07.56 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : And have you verified that other guild members dont see the message? |
| 01:08.17 | Miravlix_ | http://wow.pastebin.com/680201 |
| 01:08.21 | bsodergren | http://pastebin.com/680202 |
| 01:09.07 | Iriel|working | Miravlix_ : Which SetX methods does that work for? Or none? |
| 01:09.07 | Miravlix_ | MentalPower: Just a second, seems my path to download is botched |
| 01:09.15 | MentalPower | lol |
| 01:09.15 | Miravlix_ | SetSpell |
| 01:09.19 | MentalPower | ok |
| 01:10.06 | Miravlix_ | Well just tooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip") then Tooltip:SetSpell gives no error |
| 01:10.35 | Iriel|working | So SetSpell populates and shows the frame? |
| 01:10.43 | Iriel|working | does nothing but gives no error isn't "working" 8-) |
| 01:10.53 | Miravlix_ | I never said it was working |
| 01:11.09 | Miravlix_ | You asked for something that didn't crash |
| 01:11.09 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : You have a typo on line 30, nothing to do with your bug, but you have 'teh' instead of 'the' |
| 01:11.19 | bsodergren | its not a type-o :D |
| 01:11.27 | Iriel|working | No, I said: <Iriel|working> I'm trying to find someone who has gotten a dynamic GameTooltip even SLIGHTLY working |
| 01:11.59 | Iriel|working | Anyway, sounds like you've had as much success as I |
| 01:12.09 | Iriel|working | namely, the SetCalls execute but nothing happens |
| 01:12.11 | Iriel|working | 8-( |
| 01:12.38 | Miravlix_ | Thats what I said. :) |
| 01:13.42 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : Does your character have permission to speak on the guild channel? |
| 01:13.58 | bsodergren | i sure hope so, i am an officer in the guild :) |
| 01:14.01 | Miravlix_ | MentalPower: Try now please |
| 01:14.07 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : Do you have any addons that might be hooking SendChatMessage or ChatFrameOnEvent ? |
| 01:14.28 | bsodergren | ya, they are disabled atm. |
| 01:14.37 | bsodergren | but if i type /script blah blah blah, it works. |
| 01:14.49 | bsodergren | i.e . /script SendChatMessage("It's Almost time to Raid!","GUILD") |
| 01:14.52 | bsodergren | works just fine |
| 01:17.09 | Iriel|working | But you are seeing this line: IDKP_guildchat("You have 5 minutes to get on the bench or in the zone before attendance is Recorded"); |
| 01:17.10 | Iriel|working | ? |
| 01:17.29 | bsodergren | yes, not in guild/say or anything. |
| 01:17.44 | bsodergren | i am using that devtools addon and have it showing what event each line in chat is from. |
| 01:18.29 | MentalPower | Cairenn: has slouken answered back on the "kick person not in your party" exploit? |
| 01:18.29 | Cairenn | said he got it |
| 01:18.29 | Iriel|working | He said "Wow thanks" to me |
| 01:19.04 | MentalPower | was it fixed on lastnight's rolling restarts or was that for something else? |
| 01:19.15 | Cairenn | no idea, haven't tested |
| 01:19.31 | MentalPower | I'll go test |
| 01:20.03 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : I dont know then, if you're certain that line is being called, but you're not getting amessage, and neither is the rest of your guild, and you're not hooking SendChatMessage, then I really dont know |
| 01:20.25 | Iriel|working | Maybe guild chat acquired a hardware event restriction, but I'm sure someone else would have mentioned it |
| 01:20.34 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 01:20.40 | bsodergren | that seems kind of silly to do that though.. |
| 01:26.20 | Miravlix_ | Ooh |
| 01:26.28 | Miravlix_ | Chat message requireing hardware events. drool |
| 01:26.31 | Miravlix_ | No spam bots! |
| 01:26.38 | Miravlix_ | And Sky = dead :) |
| 01:26.59 | AnduinLothar | remind me to kill myself |
| 01:27.02 | Iriel|working | I'm sure we'd have heard the screams if it ireally went that way? |
| 01:27.07 | Miravlix_ | Hmm, interesting a saved spellbook of a Priest and a Druid is both 109 KB |
| 01:27.33 | Iriel|working | Though 1.10 did make chat frame edit box enter a hardware event |
| 01:27.34 | AnduinLothar | when they make messages req hardware events i'm quitting |
| 01:28.07 | Kirkburn | That'd take out half the addon community :P |
| 01:28.59 | Miravlix_ | Hmm |
| 01:29.08 | Iriel|working | It'd cripple raid addons |
| 01:29.09 | Miravlix_ | Aquatic Form's rank = ShapeShift |
| 01:29.21 | Iriel|working | But, I suspect bsodergren's problem lies elsewhere |
| 01:29.31 | Kirkburn | Can I just say the picture quality on a Zen Vision:M is amazing, seriously cool :D Pity I have to recode lots of my 24 eps :( |
| 01:29.44 | Iriel|working | because we would have heard much more noise if a restriction like that went in. |
| 01:30.13 | Cairenn | oh, big time we would |
| 01:30.13 | Kirkburn | Noise/spam/protests/death threats/terrorism |
| 01:30.23 | Cairenn | you'd hear the howls from here to the moon and back |
| 01:31.47 | Kirkburn | It's where many WoW forumerites live, anyway |
| 01:31.58 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:32.01 | Kirkburn | How'd that 'e' get in there? |
| 01:32.40 | Kirkburn | *Sigh* I can't even correct myself properly :P |
| 01:33.09 | Legorol | "kick person not in your party"? |
| 01:33.18 | Legorol | sounds interesting :-) |
| 01:33.30 | bsodergren | Iriel|working, using that /dtchatmonitor or whatever option in DevTools, the text that i have in my SendChatMessage() function above that is showing what event is calling tht text right. |
| 01:33.33 | Kirkburn | Er, can anyone decribe to me what Twin Peaks is supposed to be? Pure drama? Black comedy? |
| 01:33.37 | Iriel|working | Oh look, Maldivia got a slouken reply |
| 01:33.41 | bsodergren | it says the event is "UPDATE_BONUS_ACTIONBAR" |
| 01:33.45 | Kirkburn | Legorol, yes, it's baaad |
| 01:34.00 | Iriel|working | bsodergren : It shows what event was 'active' when the chat message got added to the frame |
| 01:34.15 | Legorol | Hm, IE 7 is ... crap. |
| 01:34.20 | Kirkburn | Wha? |
| 01:34.22 | bsodergren | right, because im calling my function in an <OnLoad> , |
| 01:34.43 | Kirkburn | I have one word for now: beta |
| 01:34.43 | bsodergren | err, not onliad |
| 01:34.45 | bsodergren | onupdate |
| 01:34.48 | Legorol | Tabbed browsing in IE 7: ftw. |
| 01:34.53 | Legorol | Everything else in IE 7: ftl |
| 01:34.59 | Kirkburn | beta beta beta |
| 01:35.01 | Legorol | I'm contemplating going back to 6 |
| 01:35.05 | Kirkburn | beta. |
| 01:35.06 | Legorol | Kirkburn: yeah i know |
| 01:35.16 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 01:35.20 | Legorol | but in its current incarnation, just installing it wrecked about 5 programs on my machine |
| 01:35.22 | AnduinLothar | wtf are u using ie.. |
| 01:35.29 | Kirkburn | Seriously Legorol ? |
| 01:35.34 | Legorol | Kirkburn: yes |
| 01:35.41 | Legorol | uninstalling it fixed them, so i am sure it's IE 7 |
| 01:35.47 | Kirkburn | Which? |
| 01:35.50 | Legorol | i have fixed them up though, mostly DLL conflicts |
| 01:35.57 | Legorol | by carefully renaming DLLs most problems got resolved |
| 01:36.11 | Legorol | things like custom tools provided by my ISP |
| 01:36.11 | Kirkburn | Er, what progs? |
| 01:36.46 | Legorol | i'm not complaining, i know it's still in beta |
| 01:37.00 | Legorol | me asking for stuff to work with IE7 is like WoW players asking for AddOns to work on the test realm |
| 01:37.02 | Legorol | i know the drill |
| 01:37.07 | Kirkburn | ;) |
| 01:37.25 | Kirkburn | I'm just intrigued as I've not had problems so far |
| 01:37.36 | Legorol | ok, one example: |
| 01:37.56 | Legorol | a 3rd party tool from my ISP, it has its own copy of (an older version of) psapi.dll |
| 01:38.00 | Legorol | normally it's happy with that |
| 01:38.14 | Kirkburn | (I wish they'd make it standalone at some point so you can run it and IE6 together) |
| 01:38.17 | Legorol | installing IE7 somehow means that a function gets called in this dll that doesn't exist in this older version |
| 01:38.39 | Legorol | my guess is that the app is loading some dlls from the system dir, and some from its own dir |
| 01:38.48 | Miravlix_ | My 60 druid has a 1.25% chance to crit at level 60 |
| 01:38.50 | Kirkburn | Doesn't that make the prog badly coded? |
| 01:39.01 | Legorol | Kirkburn: yes and no |
| 01:39.13 | Tain | You could say that about every Windows program then. |
| 01:39.22 | Legorol | DLLs are supposed to be backwards compatible |
| 01:39.31 | Legorol | and a program should be allowed to have its own copies of some DLLs |
| 01:39.37 | Legorol | unfortunately in practice it sometimes goes foobar |
| 01:39.40 | Legorol | welcome to DLL Hell |
| 01:39.41 | bsodergren | hmm.. i need to figure out a way to get this to print to guild chat.. |
| 01:39.43 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 01:40.00 | Kirkburn | Well, I hope for your sake it's fixed |
| 01:40.12 | Kirkburn | Still haven't even reached Beta 2 |
| 01:40.14 | Legorol | from what i could tell the problem is that by installing IE7 it replaced a DLL in the system dir, which the program is using |
| 01:40.20 | Legorol | and that DLL is making a call to psapi.dll |
| 01:40.35 | Legorol | unfortunately it ends up making the call to the version that is loaded in the program's address space, which is an older version |
| 01:40.46 | Legorol | i haven't figured out yet what this dll is though that IE7 replaces |
| 01:40.52 | Kirkburn | funky |
| 01:41.30 | Legorol | the fix was easy: i removed psapi.dll from the program's directory, so it instead loads the (newer) one from the system dir |
| 01:41.32 | Legorol | and everything is funky |
| 01:41.45 | Kirkburn | Funkalicious! |
| 01:42.16 | Legorol | it's an insoluble dilemma: you could say the program should either load all DLLs from the system, or all from its own dir |
| 01:42.31 | Legorol | but if you did the former, incompatibilities can arise if the system DLLs get updated |
| 01:42.34 | Kirkburn | insoluble or unsolvable? |
| 01:42.39 | Legorol | and if you did the latter, the program gets bloated |
| 01:42.48 | Legorol | unsolvable :p |
| 01:42.51 | Legorol | anyways |
| 01:43.02 | Legorol | about IE7: i didn't notice much change, except for the tabs |
| 01:43.08 | Kirkburn | I didn't think it would dissolve in water anyway ;) |
| 01:43.08 | Legorol | Kirkburn, did you notice any significant changes? |
| 01:43.42 | Legorol | i'm actually very happy with the tabs.. it's the only thing i was missing in IE that firefox/mozilla had over it |
| 01:44.01 | Kirkburn | Tough question to answer, I suppose most of the changes are 'under the hood' |
| 01:44.01 | Legorol | (note: this was a statement of personal opinions and not hard, undisputable facts) |
| 01:44.15 | MentalPower | Cairenn, Iriel and anyone else that cares. It appears that the group exploit was indeed fixed last night. I've had independent confirmation from three sources. |
| 01:44.16 | Kirkburn | I do like the tabs I must say |
| 01:44.26 | Cairenn | MentalPower: good |
| 01:44.28 | Kirkburn | That was the hotfix? |
| 01:44.50 | Kirkburn | If so, good thing :) |
| 01:44.54 | MentalPower | my guess is that it was lastnight's hotfix |
| 01:44.55 | Legorol | MentalPower: could it still be live in EU? |
| 01:45.01 | MentalPower | possibly |
| 01:45.42 | Kirkburn | No mention of restarts on bluetracker |
| 01:45.58 | AnduinLothar | general forum, last sticky |
| 01:46.36 | Kirkburn | Legorol, some of the security changes are good, especially the phishing filter. I feel safer knowing it's there. |
| 01:46.48 | Kirkburn | AnduinLothar, cool |
| 01:46.52 | Legorol | ok i agree that's a nice change for general users |
| 01:47.05 | Legorol | i haven't noticed much though that's relevant for me. |
| 01:47.13 | Legorol | the Information Bar got a bit more annoying and has some new messages ;-) |
| 01:47.18 | Kirkburn | What they really need to sort out is the addons |
| 01:47.31 | Legorol | for example, it now blocks the controls used by the Honor Ranking page :p |
| 01:47.36 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 01:47.47 | Legorol | and even if i click allow or enable or whatnot, |
| 01:47.51 | Legorol | it pops up again immediately |
| 01:47.57 | Legorol | i haven't figured out yet how to make it go away permanently |
| 01:48.19 | Legorol | actually it's complaining about MSXML 5.0 |
| 01:48.24 | Legorol | go figure, MS blocking itself :-) |
| 01:48.47 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, that thing |
| 01:49.06 | Kirkburn | Methinks tis a bug |
| 01:50.04 | Kirkburn | heh ... 'Microsoft Corporation' (unverified publisher) |
| 01:50.06 | Legorol | well i think it might have something to do with the fact that MSXML 5.0 seems to have an unverified publisher |
| 01:50.09 | Legorol | yeah that's the one |
| 01:50.20 | Gryphen | honor pages seem ok to me :o |
| 01:50.27 | Kirkburn | Probably hasn't got it's certificate thingy |
| 01:50.37 | Legorol | Gryphen: it might depend on the precise set of security settings in IE |
| 01:51.03 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, you use IE7 too? |
| 01:51.07 | Gryphen | ya |
| 01:51.47 | Legorol | i didn't think there is anyone else apart from me using it :-) |
| 01:52.00 | Kirkburn | I used it since the first beta arrived :) |
| 01:52.05 | Gryphen | im not a ff fanboi |
| 01:52.12 | Legorol | next time anyone asks me why I use it, i'll pass the question along ... |
| 01:52.17 | Gryphen | yeah me too since the leak |
| 01:52.26 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 01:52.37 | Kirkburn | Anduin must hate us ... |
| 01:52.48 | Gryphen | you can run ie6 and ie7 btw |
| 01:52.52 | Legorol | he is on a Mac, what do you expect |
| 01:52.57 | Kirkburn | I know, not easily though :S |
| 01:53.13 | Gryphen | ya |
| 01:53.27 | Gryphen | i dont miss ie6, though i do miss ie7 when i dont have it now |
| 01:53.37 | Kirkburn | Why don't you have it now? |
| 01:53.47 | Gryphen | i do |
| 01:53.53 | Gryphen | just occasionally on a comp that doesnt |
| 01:54.02 | Kirkburn | I sees |
| 01:54.30 | Gryphen | i had also hosed the activex addons and uninstalled for a bit to get it all cleaned up |
| 01:54.38 | AnduinLothar | why would i hate you? |
| 01:54.45 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 01:54.54 | AnduinLothar | i dont use ff |
| 01:54.58 | AnduinLothar | Camino ftw |
| 01:55.01 | Kirkburn | Maybe it was this comment: "wtf are u using ie.." |
| 01:58.17 | Kirkburn | USB cables are never fast enough :( |
| 01:58.28 | Iriel|working | The cables are supposed to be stationary! |
| 01:58.50 | Kirkburn | But, but...! |
| 01:59.05 | Tain | They go pretty fast when used as a whip. |
| 01:59.12 | Kirkburn | [the sound of my head smacking against a wall] |
| 02:00.53 | Kirkburn | And I'm off to bed ... night night all! |
| 02:01.48 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
| 02:01.51 | Cairenn | later Iriel|working |
| 02:05.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge SlackerJer (i=slacker_@037.106-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 02:09.29 | bsodergren | still need to find a solution to my problem of SendChatMessage() not sending messages to a channel during an onUpdate |
| 02:17.05 | bsodergren | GOD DAMNIT!!! |
| 02:17.09 | bsodergren | i found my problem.... |
| 02:24.22 | Kirkburn | Btw, this is intriguing: http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/8025454.htm |
| 02:25.20 | Kirkburn | MVPs appear to be getting their own avatars |
| 02:25.56 | Cairenn | they were supposed to be, yup ... has it started happening yet? |
| 02:27.15 | Kirkburn | Haven't seen it ... anyways proper night night now :P |
| 02:37.06 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Qzot (n=nickell@sandbox.xerox.com) |
| 02:37.45 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 02:37.55 | Cairenn | hey *nu |
| 02:38.17 | Qzot | Is WoW authentication down, or am I using a sucky airport wifi provider? |
| 02:38.28 | Cairenn | no, the auth server is messed |
| 02:38.38 | Qzot | Oh, goodie. |
| 02:39.12 | Cairenn | new experience, I realize, catching everyone off guard ... /sarcasm |
| 02:39.15 | Qzot | Well, I already got my $7 worth of connection, I think. So 15 minutes of WoW before boarding would have been gravy. |
| 02:40.47 | Qzot | Do you know how seditious www.wow-interface.com is? |
| 02:42.46 | Cairenn | ummm, I'd be inclined to say rather ... |
| 02:43.08 | Qzot | Loading it installs viruses onto your machine. |
| 02:43.18 | Cairenn | excuse me?! |
| 02:43.47 | Cairenn | loading what? the page itself? |
| 02:44.10 | Qzot | Yeah. I accidentally typed it into my address bar with the '-'. And it started using IE exploits to attempt to load viruses. |
| 02:44.21 | Cairenn | oh ... lovely ... |
| 02:44.23 | Qzot | Bastards. |
| 02:44.41 | Qzot | Fortunately, I had my pants up at the time. |
| 02:48.50 | Cairenn | Qzot: well, regardless, thank you for finding it ... I've posted about it in the staff forums |
| 02:49.14 | Cairenn | see if there's anything we can do about it |
| 02:50.27 | Qzot | I doubt it. Those guys are so slimy. |
| 02:51.35 | Cairenn | can only but try |
| 02:51.47 | Qzot | I've heard you mention FuBar. Can you give me a link to read about it? |
| 02:51.55 | Qzot | Looks like it's part of Ace? |
| 02:52.07 | ckknight | nope |
| 02:52.14 | Qzot | Hmm? |
| 02:52.14 | ckknight | it just uses Ace as a framework to build on |
| 02:52.18 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=86&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 02:52.21 | ckknight | it's not "part of" ace |
| 02:52.34 | ckknight | btw, I'm Boss, author of FuBar |
| 02:52.34 | Cairenn | specifically http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4571 |
| 02:52.49 | Cairenn | <== Link Queen |
| 02:53.09 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:53.32 | Qzot | Hehe. |
| 02:54.07 | Qzot | Searching wowi for 'FuBar' doesnt' seem to give FuBar as a link, but instead a pile of *Fu, in category "Ace: FuBar". |
| 02:54.24 | ckknight | it probably does give it, just not on the first page |
| 02:54.32 | hyperChipmunk | hehe a pile of Fu |
| 02:54.39 | ckknight | either way, click a plugin, then at the top it'll say "this is a plugin for _FuBar_" |
| 02:54.49 | Cairenn | still gets you there one way or another, since clicking on any of them will give you the "plugin .... what he said |
| 02:55.02 | Tain | Don't step in the fu |
| 02:55.30 | ckknight | mmm... almost got TabletLib to a usable state |
| 02:55.34 | ckknight | but now I can't log into WoW |
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| 04:22.25 | Tem | curses! |
| 04:23.40 | Iriel | slouken taking away your toys? |
| 04:24.34 | Tem | I missed Qzot |
| 04:24.52 | Tem | Slouken hasn't been taking away toys has he? |
| 04:25.30 | Iriel | multiple WorldFrame's |
| 04:26.15 | Tem | aww |
| 04:26.45 | Tem | well |
| 04:26.58 | Tem | he needs to get cracking on the widget methods we need |
| 04:27.06 | Tem | because I'm sick of using XML |
| 04:27.26 | Tem | oh, how did you handle button fontstrings in your thing, Iriel? |
| 04:27.38 | Iriel | I dont very well |
| 04:27.52 | Iriel | And in fact it showed me that even what he proposed for 1.11 isn't good enough |
| 04:28.44 | Kremonte | how do you do odd/even again? if(math.mod(n) == 1) then it's even? :X |
| 04:28.54 | Iriel | math.mod(n, 2) == 1 |
| 04:28.56 | ckknight | anyone know how to set a frame's toplevel="true" ? |
| 04:28.59 | Iriel | is odd |
| 04:28.59 | ckknight | in lua, I mean |
| 04:29.05 | Iriel | ckknight :SetTopLevel(true) 8-) |
| 04:29.06 | Kremonte | oh yea, the 2 |
| 04:29.10 | Kremonte | domo arigato ^_^ |
| 04:29.17 | Iriel | Upcoming 1.10.2 changes: |
| 04:29.26 | Iriel | So not until the current test build goes live |
| 04:30.35 | ckknight | damn |
| 04:30.40 | ckknight | SetTopLevel doesn't exist yet |
| 04:31.40 | Tem | Iriel: why isn't giving it a fontstring to use good enough? |
| 04:33.46 | Iriel | That would be good enough |
| 04:33.50 | Iriel | but that's not what we get |
| 04:34.01 | Iriel | we get the button creating its internal FontString when we SetNormalTextFont on it |
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| 04:36.10 | Tem | Iriel: well yeah we know that's inadequate |
| 04:36.26 | Tem | but, I thought he had agreed to add giving it a fontstring |
| 04:38.02 | Iriel | not that I have record of |
| 04:39.08 | Tem | well, let me put it this way |
| 04:39.16 | Tem | he didn't shoot me down when I suggested it |
| 04:39.45 | Tem | and seemed to imply, "yeah, that's a good solution. make up some method names and create a post" |
| 04:40.12 | Iriel | Well, I asked him for it again yesterday so hopefull he'll be nice |
| 04:40.37 | Tem | via email? |
| 04:41.44 | Iriel | I emailed him about my virtual frame thread and some other issues, and tacked it onto the end |
| 04:42.47 | Tem | vframe thread? |
| 04:43.30 | Tem | and speaking of things that start with "v"... vdump |
| 04:43.33 | Tem | I want it |
| 04:43.35 | Tem | now |
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| 04:45.01 | Tem | whoops |
| 04:45.15 | Tem | ug, something is seriously wrong with my system |
| 04:45.44 | Tem | I'm getting performance like I'm running 2 copies of wow concurently, but all I have open is IRC |
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| 04:49.20 | Tem | oh much better |
| 04:54.14 | Cairenn | night all |
| 04:55.09 | Kaelten|Sleep | night guys |
| 05:03.01 | MentalPower | night folks |
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| 05:26.39 | Esamynn | Evening all |
| 05:30.11 | hyperChipmunk | Definition of evil: http://69.14.77.214/sentry.jpg |
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| 05:31.12 | Iriel | Evening Esamynn |
| 05:34.05 | Esamynn | Sigh, the Xorg X Server is going to drive me out of my mind :( |
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| 05:52.19 | Miravlix | Heh, having two pets with the same name = bad for hunters, it breaks Blizzards UI |
| 05:53.25 | Iriel | oops 8-) |
| 05:55.06 | Esamynn | lol |
| 05:55.39 | Esamynn | what breaks exactly? |
| 05:57.11 | Miravlix | Everything |
| 05:57.27 | Miravlix | Pet becomes Unknown Entity and pet bar is greyed out |
| 05:57.34 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 05:57.45 | Miravlix | But it just did it with my other pet too, so seem to be a general 1.10.x bug |
| 05:58.29 | Esamynn | well then, I expect to see a post in the forums by tomorrow then ;) |
| 05:59.48 | Esamynn | wel well well, I'm surprised they left the "ability" to even attempt to create WorldFrame objects after one already existed |
| 05:59.58 | Esamynn | for so long |
| 06:01.32 | Iriel | I'm just surprised we didn't play with it more until now |
| 06:02.11 | Miravlix | You don't want to know |
| 06:02.16 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:02.30 | Tem | I hate hunters? |
| 06:02.32 | Miravlix | Hmm, seems SKILL_LINES_CHANGED fires for Pet abilities. |
| 06:03.02 | Esamynn | Tem: we are talking about "attempting" to create multiple WorldFrame objects :P |
| 06:03.09 | Tem | oh |
| 06:03.18 | Miravlix | Pretty good way to detect pet spellbook changes. |
| 06:03.29 | Tem | well, I had previously read the comments in WorldFrame.xml |
| 06:03.41 | Tem | so I assumed they weren't lying about it being a highlander frame |
| 06:03.49 | Esamynn | they weren't |
| 06:03.59 | Esamynn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=366609&p=1&tmp=1#post366609 |
| 06:04.01 | Miravlix | There can be only one! |
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| 06:06.04 | Tem_ | yay for crashing |
| 06:06.12 | Esamynn | and the Highlander jokes doesn't really work because the frames don't try to kill each other, they just kill the game :P |
| 06:06.38 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 06:07.04 | Esamynn | anyways, I'm going to give up on this stupid X Server for yet another night and get some sleep, night all |
| 06:16.42 | hyperChipmunk | it works fine, actually, after some fiddlin'; only problem is the double-animation-rate |
| 06:16.54 | hyperChipmunk | but that's not much a problem |
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| 06:24.04 | Wobin_ | Slou fixed it =) |
| 06:25.23 | hyperChipmunk | oh? |
| 06:25.50 | Wobin_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=366609&p=1&tmp=1#post366609 |
| 06:25.55 | Wobin_ | er |
| 06:26.02 | Wobin_ | yeah, what Esam just posted |
| 06:26.19 | Wobin_ | I was trying for a more specific anchor, but obviously missed =P |
| 06:26.31 | Wobin_ | post 14 anyway |
| 06:35.18 | Miravlix | You have to find Slouken threads then link to the found one |
| 06:36.04 | hyperChipmunk | >8( |
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| 06:53.02 | Iriel | night all |
| 06:53.09 | AnduinLothar | night iriel |
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| 06:55.53 | krka|work | yay, came up with a good solution to my runscript problem |
| 07:10.02 | Kremonte | somebody kill me IRL |
| 07:10.10 | Kremonte | i was just finishing my last paragraph on my 4page essay |
| 07:10.17 | Kremonte | and it crashed |
| 07:10.25 | Kremonte | i haven't saved for the last 2 fucking pages -_- |
| 07:12.00 | AnduinLothar | autosave ftw |
| 07:12.19 | Kremonte | well i'm adding pictures and whatnot, so i'm working in photoshop |
| 07:15.43 | krka|work | no more hooking of runscript, i simple hook settext / gettext to make it look like a colorless editbox |
| 07:17.23 | [MoonWolf] | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/04/24/pink_flamingos/ <- gay animals adopt childeren..... |
| 07:34.23 | krka|work | hm, might be tricky to hook into tooltips |
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| 07:34.43 | s|loup | hi |
| 07:34.47 | krka|work | hi |
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| 08:30.47 | Kalroth | hej! |
| 08:34.20 | sedatedChipmunk | hejsa |
| 08:34.24 | sedatedChipmunk | night =p |
| 08:34.49 | Kalroth | g'night?! |
| 08:35.35 | sedatedChipmunk | 04:30 here =) |
| 08:35.43 | Kalroth | ah :) |
| 08:37.21 | Kalroth | "Sorry gtg, my water just broke." |
| 08:42.56 | Ninwa | lol |
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| 08:57.57 | Kalroth | silly aq40 excuses ftw! |
| 08:58.24 | Kalroth | (also pasting them in the wrong channel ftl :) |
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| 09:23.50 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 09:26.54 | Kalroth | hi font! |
| 09:28.50 | [MoonWolf] | ComicSansMS is not a proper font! |
| 09:29.18 | Kalroth | I disagree |
| 09:30.11 | [MoonWolf] | http://bancomicsans.com/home.html |
| 09:30.31 | zeeg | yta know |
| 09:30.36 | zeeg | i think if i ever see someone wearing a shirt like that |
| 09:30.39 | zeeg | i may have to punch them |
| 09:30.41 | zeeg | despite how much I agree |
| 09:30.41 | zeeg | :P |
| 09:31.09 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 09:31.19 | Corrodias | "These widespread abuses of printed type threaten to erode the very foundations upon which centuries of typographic history are built." |
| 09:31.24 | Corrodias | what the fuck is that supposed to mean? |
| 09:31.44 | zeeg | are they using Comic Sans on the shirts? |
| 09:31.50 | Kalroth | yes :) |
| 09:31.51 | Kremonte | yes |
| 09:31.53 | zeeg | well |
| 09:31.55 | zeeg | doesnt that kind of say |
| 09:32.00 | zeeg | stick your own foot up your ass? |
| 09:32.02 | zeeg | :P |
| 09:32.06 | Kremonte | no |
| 09:32.11 | Kremonte | it's showing gross misusage of the font |
| 09:32.25 | zeeg | well ive seen enough misusage |
| 09:32.26 | zeeg | dont need more |
| 09:32.55 | krka|work | i wonder how long comic sans took to design |
| 09:33.35 | Kalroth | too long |
| 09:33.49 | Kalroth | anything over 1 minute is too long :) |
| 09:33.56 | Corrodias | how is any use of a font misuse, unless it's something like letters composed of vulgarity on a church poster? |
| 09:34.15 | Kalroth | or cinema |
| 09:37.07 | Corrodias | or... a birth certificate |
| 09:38.16 | [MoonWolf] | or .... the book of dead names written in blood on dried human skin bound in dragon scale leather! |
| 09:39.56 | Corrodias | in comic sans font! |
| 09:40.23 | krka|work | i'd be worried if i got legal documents in comic sans |
| 09:40.43 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:41.11 | Kalroth | with a picture of a cute puppy in the right bottom corner |
| 09:41.15 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 09:41.22 | [MoonWolf] | and random emoticons all over the document. |
| 09:41.23 | Kalroth | and rainbow colours in the attourney name |
| 09:43.26 | wereHamster | we had such a teacher.. completely unstructured papers, bold, italic, normal font, mixed size random boxes around text, and thanks god it was b&w .. |
| 09:43.42 | Kalroth | "plaintiff (hi joe!! :))) wants to get $1000 for damages due 2 false statements aboot character!" |
| 09:44.39 | krka|work | "giev gold, need my epixxx muiont" |
| 09:46.06 | Kalroth | they need to put more smileys in the WoW EULA |
| 09:46.12 | Kalroth | maybe people would read it then |
| 09:46.47 | [MoonWolf] | GMsomeguy: This is GMsomeguy(O'RLY YA RLY NO WAI) we received your ticket about being stuck in some random place, rofl, you suck :D :P. Still want to get out :) ??!!?.lol |
| 09:47.03 | Kalroth | GMs lol'ing all the time rocks |
| 09:47.40 | Kalroth | "ohtay, so u say that all ur itamz r gone?? LOL, that sux! k, lets see. Rite, I cant help u, sry." |
| 09:47.47 | Corrodias | i met some random player in Guild Wars once, shortly after release... or was it before?... who lol'd at every single thing he said. |
| 09:48.08 | Corrodias | on that horrific note, i'm going to bed. |
| 09:48.13 | Kalroth | lol! |
| 09:48.29 | Kalroth | (that wasn't a real lol, lol) |
| 09:48.30 | id` | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/IdButtonBars |
| 09:48.32 | Corrodias | im going to bed, lol |
| 09:48.34 | Kalroth | (neither was that, lol) |
| 09:48.38 | wereHamster | night |
| 09:48.40 | Corrodias | lol see you guys tomorrow |
| 09:48.43 | Kalroth | lol |
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| 10:30.01 | Kaso | What would happen if you loaded up another language's GlobalStrings.lua , would it effective change the language of the WoW Client or would it just Horribly fail. |
| 10:33.13 | Elkano | it would change the language in the positions where these globalstrings are used... and a lot of addons will stop working if they aren't localizing via the globalvars |
| 10:35.22 | Kaso | Are there any bits of wow who's localisation doesnt come from that file? |
| 10:35.36 | Kaso | Just wow itself, ignoring addons for a moment |
| 10:36.38 | zenzelezz | don't take my word for this, but I would think that apart from that the only real WoW client difference is between the North-American and European versions |
| 10:37.49 | [MoonWolf] | european versions can have their localisation changed. |
| 10:37.56 | [MoonWolf] | so you could be right.... |
| 10:38.11 | [MoonWolf] | but the asian version could also be seperate |
| 10:38.15 | Kaso | ah yes, how is the "correct" way of chaning EU version localisation |
| 10:38.18 | [MoonWolf] | we simply never hear anything from that corner. |
| 10:38.36 | [MoonWolf] | Kaso, there is a download on the www.wow-europe.com site |
| 10:38.44 | zenzelezz | I didn't know there was a separate Asian version :-o Although it makes sense |
| 10:38.49 | Kaso | wonderfull thanks :> |
| 10:39.17 | Kaso | I was thinking a small addon to change GlobalStrings and to hook and change GetLocale() |
| 10:50.28 | Elkano | well, there are a lot of things that may be messed up: quests, tooltips, names, ... |
| 10:50.54 | Elkano | Labled textures like the map, sounds, ... |
| 10:51.14 | Elkano | if you're playing EU, I would suggest the ELPs |
| 10:51.42 | zenzelezz | if there's a tool on the website, I expect it will work for all official stuff |
| 10:52.08 | Elkano | they should be located somewhere under account management but will only work on the eu version :/ |
| 10:52.41 | zenzelezz | is there a Spanish-language version for the North-American client? |
| 10:54.40 | Elkano | don't think so, never heared of LPs for US |
| 11:24.30 | krka|work | how do i tell the difference between a real tooltip and a scanner-tooltip? |
| 11:24.48 | krka|work | check isvisible or coordinates? |
| 11:26.11 | Elkano | would check visibility, with coordinates you'll never be sure |
| 11:26.24 | zeeg | So why exactly is everyone removing addons from CG? |
| 11:26.32 | zeeg | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=7695 |
| 11:26.51 | krka|work | ok thanks |
| 11:27.56 | Maldivia | zeeg: because people want to control where they host their own stuff, so the only have to update one spot |
| 11:28.05 | [MoonWolf] | because some authors do not like the community that has grown in curse. |
| 11:28.49 | zeeg | i think people just like to be retards most of the time |
| 11:28.59 | zeeg | ckknight's post for example, coming from a guy who calls me arrogant |
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| 11:29.32 | zeeg | All of these people going around on other sites (its happened on wowguru worldofwar and curse) posting "go here for my stuff, its not going to be hosted here anymore" need to look at other peoples perspectives |
| 11:29.40 | zeeg | its not always about making it easy for the author |
| 11:29.46 | zeeg | gotta make it easy for the user too |
| 11:29.48 | zeeg | even more so |
| 11:29.57 | ckknight | who cares about the user? |
| 11:29.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 11:30.07 | zeeg | obviously not you |
| 11:30.52 | [MoonWolf] | its partially about the users |
| 11:31.00 | [MoonWolf] | but also about how the users treat you. |
| 11:31.02 | id` | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/IdButtonBars |
| 11:31.11 | id` | n33d m0r3 1npu7 |
| 11:31.12 | [MoonWolf] | some people simply have had enough treament from the curse users. |
| 11:31.17 | [MoonWolf] | personally |
| 11:31.23 | [MoonWolf] | all my addons are still on curse and will remain there. |
| 11:31.32 | zeeg | ill be honest, and say ive never really paid much attention to cures's community |
| 11:31.36 | zeeg | but itsw the biggest site |
| 11:31.37 | zeeg | always will be |
| 11:31.43 | zeeg | removing files form it is well, jsut fucking stupid |
| 11:32.00 | id` | it is not if you dont plan on updating them there |
| 11:32.01 | zeeg | 90% of wow users who download addons, probably dont even know wowi exists |
| 11:32.11 | zeeg | id`, ya but if the curse admins update for you, you shouldnt complain |
| 11:32.20 | krka|work | users don't have to be / should be babied |
| 11:32.21 | zeeg | if you didnt read that thread, thats basically the topic |
| 11:32.22 | Maldivia | Personally, I've never put any of my addons on curse... but on the other hand, they are not on wowguru, wowinterface or anywhere else for that matter, except the site I controls :) |
| 11:32.27 | [MoonWolf] | if you did not ask for it, you should. |
| 11:32.27 | krka|work | we all do this for the fun of it |
| 11:32.27 | id` | if they update for me then they are doing more then their job. |
| 11:32.30 | zeeg | Maldivia, ya thats different |
| 11:32.32 | Maldivia | ... unless someone has posted it without my knowledge :) |
| 11:32.38 | krka|work | if people start making demands, then it's not fun anymore, it's work |
| 11:32.39 | id` | its my addon, i wrote it. I get to say on what site it is |
| 11:32.43 | krka|work | and i ain't getting payed |
| 11:32.45 | zeeg | id`, exactly, if they update for you you should be thankful, not yelling and complaining |
| 11:32.47 | [MoonWolf] | if wowi or curse or any other site is medeling in my addons ... thats bad. |
| 11:32.53 | id` | zeeg: certainly not |
| 11:33.00 | zeeg | if you posted it there in the first place |
| 11:33.05 | [MoonWolf] | if I asked for it. then there is something else. |
| 11:33.07 | zeeg | and removed files just because you didnt want to have to update it other places |
| 11:33.07 | id` | zeeg: if i want it off i want it off |
| 11:33.15 | zeeg | it seems though |
| 11:33.24 | zeeg | that everyone "wants it off" of every site that has worked hard to get stuff up |
| 11:33.25 | id` | zeeg: and else im forced to license it and FORCE them to remove it |
| 11:33.27 | zeeg | just so they can post it on these wowi portals |
| 11:33.36 | zeeg | id`, you cant actually do that though :) |
| 11:33.44 | id` | zeeg: i know |
| 11:33.50 | krka|work | what license do you currently use? |
| 11:33.53 | id` | none |
| 11:34.00 | Kalroth | public domain then! |
| 11:34.01 | krka|work | if none, plain copyright applies |
| 11:34.04 | krka|work | so you can force them to remove it |
| 11:34.05 | Maldivia | zeeg: and why can't you do that ? |
| 11:34.08 | id` | but its written content so its licensed anyway |
| 11:34.08 | id` | :P |
| 11:34.18 | zeeg | krka, Blizzard has put in some BS terms of use for LUA scripts for wow though |
| 11:34.22 | id` | krka|work: right |
| 11:34.24 | krka|work | doesn't apply |
| 11:34.24 | Maldivia | if no licence is mentioned, normal copyright rules apply |
| 11:34.35 | zeeg | anyways |
| 11:34.39 | zeeg | the whole argument is retarded |
| 11:34.43 | zeeg | all they're doing is making files available |
| 11:34.55 | Kalroth | it seems a bit childish, yeah |
| 11:34.56 | id` | Its my work. I dont want it to be available there |
| 11:35.00 | zeeg | no one should complain about that, its not like they're going out there an adding new mods they're missing, they're just updating |
| 11:35.08 | krka|work | for instance, part of my addon code was written completely without wow |
| 11:35.08 | id` | I want to have the say about that |
| 11:35.20 | Kalroth | id`: hence the childish part :) |
| 11:35.25 | zeeg | ya |
| 11:35.29 | zeeg | thats like saying |
| 11:35.41 | id` | here it comes.. |
| 11:35.52 | zeeg | I made this cool website, but i dont want 90% of the people int he world to know it exists, or to be able to visit it |
| 11:35.55 | Kalroth | of course, personally I prefer bsd over gpl :) |
| 11:35.56 | zeeg | something along those lines, im sick so bear w/ me |
| 11:36.12 | zeeg | anyways, curse is 100x larger than any other addon site |
| 11:36.14 | krka|work | not really the same thing |
| 11:36.20 | zeeg | ya i know, im on nyquil |
| 11:36.22 | zeeg | and dizzy |
| 11:36.22 | zeeg | lol |
| 11:36.25 | Maldivia | zeeg: yep, robots.txt: Deny: * will do that for you :) |
| 11:36.30 | zeeg | ladjflk i know bad example |
| 11:36.33 | [MoonWolf] | oh sorry mr author, you published 3 books with use, but not your 4th, but no worry, we bublished the 4th book for you yust because! |
| 11:36.44 | zeeg | [MoonWolf], no thats like |
| 11:36.46 | zeeg | idk |
| 11:36.48 | zeeg | but still |
| 11:36.51 | id` | zeeg: its the same |
| 11:36.51 | zeeg | its just a stupid discussion |
| 11:36.55 | zeeg | that shouldnt even have been brought up |
| 11:37.09 | id` | its you telling us were childish, and we telling you we want the right. |
| 11:37.28 | ckknight | would someone please translate these to German/French: "Scroll up", "Scroll down", "Detach tooltip", "Lock tooltip", "Size" |
| 11:37.30 | krka|work | weird that people tend to completely ignore copyright |
| 11:37.31 | Maldivia | well, the link posted is that the person wants to be found on curse-gaming, but doesn't want to have anything else to do with them, which I find very wrong! |
| 11:37.31 | Kalroth | the only problem with having files hosted on multiple sites is that they might store old versions, that users download and then come bitching at you because the outdated version doesn't work |
| 11:37.35 | zeeg | you want the right to make public addons, but not let 90% of the public know about them |
| 11:37.56 | id` | krka|work: its the kind of people that probably dont know copyright exists |
| 11:37.58 | [MoonWolf] | perhaps some people do..... |
| 11:38.07 | [MoonWolf] | and they have every right to do so. |
| 11:38.20 | Kalroth | id`: let me guess, you also paid for all the software you got installed on your computer? :p |
| 11:38.30 | id` | i paid for Windows XP |
| 11:38.48 | id` | for the rest i use free and Free software |
| 11:38.49 | zeeg | I violate copyright laws all the time, frankly, in most cases, i couldnt give two shits about them, and i can find a loophole to get around damn near every one |
| 11:38.53 | zeeg | but this isnt about copyrights |
| 11:38.56 | Maldivia | it's a bit like having advertising in storeA for a product, but when you come to the store, all they sell is a map to StoreB when you can actually buy the product |
| 11:38.57 | zeeg | this is about people being selfish |
| 11:39.16 | [MoonWolf] | people have every right to be selfish about things THEY make. |
| 11:39.21 | id` | its not selfish, or maybe it is, but i want to keep myself and my addons from the crowd |
| 11:39.24 | id` | i dont WANT publicity |
| 11:39.36 | Kalroth | id`: then don't publish stuff? |
| 11:39.42 | zeeg | id`, then you dont host them there, this is people that did host them there, and decided to just remove the files, and link to another site |
| 11:39.47 | id` | Kalroth: I do, because wowi is smaller |
| 11:39.47 | Kalroth | I mean, if you never published in the first place, then sure |
| 11:39.55 | Maldivia | [MoonWolf]: the way the person who posted in that link: I don't agree |
| 11:40.02 | id` | Kalroth: if wowi would grow to be a pithole of noobies like curse i'd want it off wowi too |
| 11:40.12 | zeeg | if wowi had 1/10 of the hits curse had |
| 11:40.13 | zeeg | it would be |
| 11:40.15 | zeeg | :P |
| 11:40.17 | id` | Kalroth: i didnt publish my addons until 2 months ago |
| 11:40.24 | id` | Kalroth: they were around for 5 months |
| 11:40.40 | Kalroth | id`: oh, so it's because you dislike curse-gaming? yeah, you're right, that's not childish. |
| 11:40.42 | ckknight | I publish like twice a day :-P |
| 11:40.49 | krka|work | sure, it's fun to have people user your stuff, but i don't get the demanding attitude of everything |
| 11:40.54 | id` | Kalroth: yeah i dislike curse gaming |
| 11:40.59 | Maldivia | I haven't published a single of my mods to any of the big sites, and yet, a nice part of the people on my server use them :) |
| 11:41.18 | id` | Kalroth: like i said, its a spam pit of noobies, and i dont want my addons over there because it will cause alot of work and answering the same questions for me |
| 11:41.23 | id` | now if that selfish the so be it |
| 11:41.29 | id` | that's* |
| 11:41.29 | Kalroth | good addons will get spread and mirrored automatically, regardless of your license etc. Once it's out, it's out. |
| 11:41.54 | id` | Kalroth: I cant help that, but I can prevent the big sites from putting it there |
| 11:41.58 | id` | or rather, should be able to |
| 11:42.19 | [MoonWolf] | Kalroth, that may be true, but the managment of larger sites should have more brains then the avarage user of those sites. |
| 11:42.25 | zeeg | id`, thats not even the topic of this discussion tho :) |
| 11:42.32 | [MoonWolf] | agreed, the way tardmr handled that was less the admirable. |
| 11:42.53 | zeeg | this is someone, who hosted their files there, decided they didnt want to update there, so they deleted them all, but left the addon itself there, and just posted links. the admins simply updated the files for the users and now the author is complaining |
| 11:43.00 | zeeg | [MoonWolf], read some of the responses |
| 11:43.04 | zeeg | ckknight for example. |
| 11:43.14 | id` | zeeg: url |
| 11:43.17 | id` | ? |
| 11:43.18 | zeeg | sec |
| 11:43.34 | zeeg | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=7695&page=1&pp=10 |
| 11:43.39 | zeeg | thats where im getting in |
| 11:43.53 | zeeg | im not talking about sites just going around stealing content/etc. |
| 11:43.57 | krka|work | i can't access wow from work... anyone want to test FAIAP before i publish it? |
| 11:43.57 | zeeg | but this is just selfish/retarded |
| 11:44.31 | Maldivia | maintenance... |
| 11:44.47 | krka|work | in eu? |
| 11:44.54 | krka|work | no wait, doesn't matter |
| 11:44.55 | krka|work | sorry |
| 11:45.16 | Maldivia | or well, the US servers are going down for maintenance in 15 minutes or so |
| 11:45.16 | ckknight | if the site updates your addons without permission, they may do so in a late fashion, or stop doing it, then you have a bunch of angry users mad at the author for having a broken addon, even if the latest (real) version works fine |
| 11:45.38 | zeeg | then maybe the author should update them himselff |
| 11:45.40 | zeeg | or not host it there to begin w/ |
| 11:45.46 | krka|work | or the site should remove the addon |
| 11:45.59 | zeeg | either way |
| 11:46.09 | zeeg | fromsomeone calling me arrogant, that post was very immature |
| 11:46.19 | [MoonWolf] | yeah that post is pretty pointless. but still , his right to do so. |
| 11:46.42 | zeeg | Here's how this works basically |
| 11:46.51 | zeeg | Everyone removes their addons from all sites so they can host at a WoWI Portal |
| 11:46.58 | zeeg | no one knows about these addons anymore |
| 11:47.02 | zeeg | someone makes new addons that do the same thing |
| 11:47.03 | zeeg | they host them at curse |
| 11:47.06 | zeeg | they become popular |
| 11:47.08 | zeeg | end of story |
| 11:47.20 | krka|work | your point? |
| 11:47.22 | zeeg | like it or not, curse is and always will be on top |
| 11:47.32 | id` | zeeg: i read the thread |
| 11:47.39 | krka|work | even if that would be true, what is your point? |
| 11:47.44 | zeeg | so epople who want to be selfish and not distribute files need to realize that they're not hurting anyone but themselves |
| 11:47.57 | id` | zeeg: I dont think the moderators of curse should update addons that seem to be out of date |
| 11:48.02 | id` | the author should |
| 11:48.02 | krka|work | not everyone aspires to the biggest userbase possible |
| 11:48.06 | id` | if hes not around contact him |
| 11:48.15 | krka|work | how are they hurting themselves? |
| 11:48.16 | id` | else move it to the OLD MODS directory/thing |
| 11:48.17 | krka|work | losing money? |
| 11:48.21 | krka|work | this is all for free! |
| 11:48.33 | zeeg | id`, maybe so, but i would choose curse over what the author did |
| 11:48.48 | id` | zeeg: I dont think the moderators of curse should update addons that seem to be out of date |
| 11:48.56 | zeeg | yes, you just said that :P |
| 11:48.58 | id` | yes |
| 11:49.11 | id` | thats where the problem is |
| 11:49.19 | zeeg | the author should have requested it be removed |
| 11:49.24 | id` | didnt he? |
| 11:49.26 | zeeg | instead of just deleting the files and poiting people elsewhere |
| 11:49.32 | id` | (on that forum thread) |
| 11:49.34 | krka|work | i guess he didn't know how to do that |
| 11:49.38 | krka|work | since it doesn't really say |
| 11:49.44 | id` | zeeg: well then you are right too |
| 11:49.45 | krka|work | there's no form to fill in for that |
| 11:49.45 | JoshBorke | ok, where's the FAIP mod? ^_^ |
| 11:49.55 | krka|work | i'll give you a link |
| 11:50.21 | krka|work | http://kristofer.no-ip.info:8080/ForAllIndentsAndPurposes.zip |
| 11:50.32 | JoshBorke | danke :-) |
| 11:50.34 | krka|work | you need that + a lua editor (tinypad, luaslinger, luapad, inspector, et.c. |
| 11:51.01 | krka|work | oh, phoenix works too |
| 11:52.20 | zeeg | anyways |
| 11:52.22 | zeeg | gotta go get photos and apply for my passport |
| 11:52.23 | [MoonWolf] | I like phoenix too. |
| 11:52.23 | zeeg | ciao |
| 11:54.31 | id` | phoenix? |
| 11:54.57 | [MoonWolf] | lua slinger/luapad like addon. |
| 11:55.01 | id` | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/IdButtonBars |
| 11:55.02 | id` | :P |
| 11:55.12 | id` | n33d m0r4 1npu7 |
| 11:55.15 | [MoonWolf] | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=867 |
| 11:56.12 | cmunn | Waffles++ |
| 11:57.16 | krka|work | feel free to test phoenix in combination with FAIAP |
| 11:57.20 | krka|work | see if FAIAP breaks anything |
| 11:57.32 | [MoonWolf] | ill let you know when I get home. |
| 11:57.53 | krka|work | cool |
| 11:58.06 | krka|work | when is that? so i know if i get home before you :) |
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| 12:35.23 | Wobin_ | Aint nothin gunna break my stride! Nobody's gunna slow me down! Oh no! I gotta keep on moving! |
| 12:35.32 | Wobin_ | Hehe Matthew Wilder |
| 12:35.32 | Kalroth | work it, girl! |
| 12:35.58 | Wobin_ | I haven't heard this song in ages =) |
| 12:36.40 | krka|work | haven't heard the cover? |
| 12:37.29 | Kalroth | the cover is much more elite! |
| 12:37.50 | Kalroth | ick, nevermind that, it was ace of base :P |
| 12:37.55 | Kalroth | I bet krka likes them though! |
| 12:39.07 | krka|work | ace of base? O_o |
| 12:39.18 | Kalroth | come on, you can admit it |
| 12:39.32 | krka|work | i meant the blue lagoon cover |
| 12:39.37 | krka|work | it's been playing a lot here recently |
| 12:39.47 | Kalroth | oh |
| 12:40.49 | Wobin_ | hehe now it's Richard Marx |
| 12:41.07 | Wobin_ | Right Here Waiting =) |
| 12:41.22 | Wobin_ | Oceans apart, day after day... and I slowly go insane... |
| 12:42.19 | Kalroth | I'm listening to a C64 version of Freestyler :P |
| 12:42.32 | Wobin_ | Rock the microphone? |
| 12:42.47 | Wobin_ | Straight from the top of my dome? |
| 12:42.53 | Kalroth | wha? |
| 12:43.00 | Wobin_ | Oh different Freestlyer =P |
| 12:44.24 | id` | Kalroth: wicked |
| 12:44.32 | id` | <-- chiptune lover :P |
| 12:44.51 | Wobin_ | And now, Peter Gabriel |
| 12:44.58 | Wobin_ | It's a 80stravaganza |
| 12:45.34 | Kalroth | id`: http://acdev.org/jt_strng.xm.zip :) |
| 12:45.55 | Kalroth | (yes, it's only 2kb packed) |
| 12:47.35 | Wobin_ | wow |
| 12:47.36 | Wobin_ | xm |
| 12:47.43 | Wobin_ | I haven't listened to tracker music for years |
| 12:48.11 | Wobin_ | I need to go find all my old LizardKing music |
| 12:48.28 | Kalroth | Lizardking ftw! |
| 12:49.05 | Wobin_ | He wrote some fantastic music |
| 12:49.10 | Kalroth | Aye |
| 12:49.16 | Kalroth | http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=4310 <- nice collection of LK stuff |
| 12:49.20 | Wobin_ | woot |
| 12:49.45 | Wobin_ | I want a whole download =P |
| 12:49.48 | Wobin_ | As in the lot =P |
| 12:49.57 | Wobin_ | Woohoo! World of X =) |
| 12:50.15 | Wobin_ | Now to see if QMP plays mods |
| 12:50.43 | Kalroth | I use xmplay, it plays pretty much all tracker formats very exact |
| 12:51.06 | id` | Kalroth: i have 18MB of chiptunes |
| 12:51.07 | id` | :P |
| 12:51.12 | id` | oh noes |
| 12:51.15 | id` | i cant find them |
| 12:51.16 | id` | :( |
| 12:52.10 | Wobin_ | woot it does =) |
| 12:52.13 | Kalroth | I got 160mb sid music, average filesize is 6k:) |
| 12:52.21 | Wobin_ | That's a lot of music |
| 12:52.30 | id` | Kalroth: hehe :) |
| 12:52.56 | Kalroth | yeah, it's the High Voltage SID Collection |
| 12:52.58 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 12:53.08 | Wobin_ | Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies! |
| 12:53.28 | Kalroth | oh oh, I know this one! |
| 12:53.30 | Kalroth | Fletwood Mac |
| 12:53.43 | Kalroth | oh man, scary that I knew that |
| 12:54.27 | id` | Kalroth: hm i expected something more fast paced.. |
| 12:54.44 | id` | Kalroth: scene.org if you didnt know it already >_o (doubt it) |
| 12:54.50 | Kalroth | of course :) |
| 12:55.02 | Kalroth | scenemusic.net, kohina.net, etc |
| 12:55.08 | Maldivia | I got 160MB wave music... average filesize is 50MB... :) |
| 12:55.14 | Wobin_ | Yep =) |
| 12:55.51 | Kalroth | id`: http://www.ym2149.com/download.html <- get the Funktion song |
| 12:56.42 | Kalroth | id`: http://dropdabomb.org/stu/temp/ <- get megablast as well |
| 12:56.55 | Kalroth | the latter one should have the pace you like :P |
| 12:57.04 | Wobin_ | The time has come. To say fairs fair. To pay our rent. To pay our share |
| 12:57.21 | Wobin_ | The time has come, A fact's a fact, It belongs to them. Let's give it back |
| 12:57.40 | Wobin_ | How can we dance when our earth is turning, how do we sleep while our beds are burning? |
| 12:57.53 | Wobin_ | This is a bit regional =P |
| 13:01.14 | Wobin_ | If Ah Geht oop, whell I noo ahm gunna be the one who geht's oop next to yuu |
| 13:01.36 | id` | lol |
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| 13:02.01 | Josh_Borke | morning :-) |
| 13:02.11 | id` | lo |
| 13:02.32 | Kalroth | g'morning Josh |
| 13:03.44 | id` | Kalroth: http://chiptune.com/?menu=data&author=packs |
| 13:04.03 | Kalroth | got most of the stuff there already ;) |
| 13:04.38 | Kalroth | I got uhhhm, a little over 1.2gb of chip/console/demo music on my work computer |
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| 13:04.47 | Kalroth | no clue how much at home, but tons more |
| 13:05.20 | Wobin_ | http://88.84.130.192:8055/live.mp3 |
| 13:05.34 | Wobin_ | I'm really enjoying the music selection on that |
| 13:08.49 | krka|work | how do i access the strings in a tooltip? |
| 13:09.05 | krka|work | without using getglobal(this:GetName() .. "TextLeft1") |
| 13:09.46 | Maldivia | this:GetChildren(), and enumerate ? :) |
| 13:10.08 | krka|work | that gets fontstrings inside layer? |
| 13:10.19 | krka|work | do we know anything about the order? |
| 13:10.22 | krka|work | same order as in XML? |
| 13:10.23 | Maldivia | can't remember :) |
| 13:10.48 | Maldivia | but .. "TextLeft1" is probably the best way |
| 13:11.46 | krka|work | hm |
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| 13:11.52 | krka|work | would fail for nameless tooltips |
| 13:11.59 | id` | Kalroth: k :p |
| 13:12.10 | krka|work | my god... 30 left and 30 right in the worst case |
| 13:12.24 | Kirkburn | Btw IE7 Beta 2 has just been released |
| 13:12.34 | Maldivia | well, nameless tooltips are a bit pointless :) |
| 13:12.38 | Wobin_ | ehehe... Rick Astley |
| 13:12.46 | cmunn | w00t, ie7, does it run on a mac? |
| 13:12.46 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:12.58 | Maldivia | cmunn: get Firefox 2 instead :) |
| 13:13.16 | cmunn | Maldivia: Camino ftw |
| 13:13.20 | Wobin_ | Never gunna give you up, neva gonna let you, never gunna run around and desert you! |
| 13:13.25 | Kirkburn | Only Windows atm |
| 13:13.37 | cmunn | Kirkburn: fail :( |
| 13:13.51 | Kirkburn | And I resort to saying 'beta' again :P |
| 13:13.53 | Elviso | LOL |
| 13:13.58 | Elviso | have you guys seen this http://www.myspace.com/cthun |
| 13:14.01 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: "never gonna let you down" :) |
| 13:14.46 | Kirkburn | I always wonder about the "C'Thun is in your extended network" thingy ... I don't even belong to myspace :s |
| 13:15.28 | Wobin_ | Firefox2? |
| 13:15.33 | Kirkburn | Great site though |
| 13:15.40 | Kirkburn | It's in beta atm Wobin_ |
| 13:15.42 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: Yeah =) missed a word |
| 13:15.59 | cmunn | It's a bug that has existed forever. If you're not logged in, then everyone is in your "Extended Network" |
| 13:16.04 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 13:16.12 | cmunn | You'd think Tom would have fixed that by now |
| 13:16.12 | Wobin_ | It's to make you feel included =) |
| 13:16.18 | Tain | Well, technically everyone is in your extended network. |
| 13:16.24 | Maldivia | hmm, that myspace... blue background, then "dotted background image", and the blue text = unreadable |
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| 13:17.31 | Kirkburn | lol, true. Useless :P |
| 13:18.00 | Kirkburn | God there's gonna be beta 3 of IE7 before we even get to the RCs |
| 13:18.32 | cmunn | You lie, Maldivia, that's the cornerstone of good Web design. |
| 13:18.37 | Maldivia | beta... the new alpha... |
| 13:19.03 | Kirkburn | Shouldn't RCs be called Gamma? :P |
| 13:19.04 | cmunn | Always use different shades of the same color for background and foreground |
| 13:19.34 | Maldivia | in Microsoft's case: RC = Alpha, Release = Beta, Service Pack 1 = RC, Service Pack 2 = Release |
| 13:19.47 | cmunn | Heh |
| 13:20.24 | Maldivia | I take that as a confirmation :) |
| 13:20.54 | cmunn | We're not supposed to discuss that. |
| 13:21.11 | Maldivia | :) |
| 13:21.20 | cmunn | They're listening... |
| 13:22.33 | id` | \m/ >_< \m/ |
| 13:22.33 | cmunn | OMG, /g Spam! |
| 13:22.33 | cmunn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.33 | Maldivia | tsk tsk... Europe - The Final Countdown |
| 13:22.33 | id` | Maldivia: this is cooler :P |
| 13:22.36 | id` | and louder, and faster and uh.. more metal? |
| 13:23.23 | Maldivia | but... but... it's an 80s classic! |
| 13:23.31 | cmunn | Michael Jackson - Thriller |
| 13:23.37 | cmunn | Win. |
| 13:23.50 | id` | you know that solo in that song? |
| 13:23.59 | id` | they do it with 3 guitars and a keyboard here |
| 13:24.07 | id` | >P |
| 13:24.15 | Maldivia | hmm, let me fast forward a bit :) |
| 13:25.16 | Maldivia | What I love about the Europe version... it sounds as if they going to get peanuts, instead of going for Venus :) |
| 13:26.06 | Maldivia | just one of those "Ohh so many" misquoted lyric-lines |
| 13:28.12 | id` | :P |
| 13:29.03 | Wobin_ | Bah |
| 13:29.17 | cmunn | Bah Black Sheep, Have you any Wool? |
| 13:29.32 | Wobin_ | Is there any way I can get all of LizardKing's mods in one download? |
| 13:29.56 | cmunn | Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Three stacks, 50s each, PST |
| 13:30.38 | id` | PST? |
| 13:30.47 | cmunn | Please Send Tell |
| 13:30.49 | Kirkburn | CET, mucho better :P |
| 13:31.02 | cmunn | Not common on your server? |
| 13:31.19 | id` | i dont play much |
| 13:31.33 | Kirkburn | Ignore my last comment. Never seen PST on EU server |
| 13:31.49 | cmunn | Ahh |
| 13:31.56 | Wobin_ | Y'know what's sort of phased out? |
| 13:31.57 | Wobin_ | PSW |
| 13:31.57 | Kirkburn | (confuses me as PST = Pacific Standard Time) |
| 13:32.05 | Wobin_ | I used to see that all the time when I started |
| 13:32.07 | id` | or Per Stack |
| 13:32.10 | id` | :p |
| 13:32.13 | cmunn | PSW? |
| 13:32.16 | Wobin_ | Please Send Whisper |
| 13:32.25 | Wobin_ | since we were all technically 'whispering' |
| 13:32.26 | cmunn | Ahh, interesting... |
| 13:32.59 | cmunn | Yet somehow we can hear a whisper across continents but a /yell only carries across the zone |
| 13:33.00 | Kirkburn | Never seen anyone use 'tell' |
| 13:33.24 | Kirkburn | Incredibly fast telegrams ;) |
| 13:33.36 | Maldivia | cmunn: we all know whispers and rumours travels faster than light :) |
| 13:33.44 | cmunn | Ahh, truely |
| 13:35.29 | Maldivia | *slap* |
| 13:35.29 | cmunn | Funny how we're all on clarke |
| 13:35.30 | Kirkburn | That's true |
| 13:36.13 | Kirkburn | Hmm, they're still not back |
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| 13:36.40 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone here know Manfred Mann's Earth Band ? |
| 13:36.50 | cmunn | Negative |
| 13:37.02 | Wobin_ | rofl |
| 13:37.04 | Wobin_ | Bros |
| 13:37.05 | Kirkburn | Sounds like a stupid name to me |
| 13:37.14 | Wobin_ | When. Will I? Will I be FAMOUS? |
| 13:37.36 | Maldivia | A British quintet, from the 60s |
| 13:37.36 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: It sounds familiar |
| 13:37.59 | Wobin_ | This channel truly has the best and worst of the 80's =) |
| 13:38.00 | cmunn | Do they have a synthesizer? |
| 13:38.06 | Wobin_ | in the 60's =) |
| 13:38.22 | cmunn | Then they cannot be great. |
| 13:38.32 | Wobin_ | Bros has a synth |
| 13:38.35 | Wobin_ | DEfinietely |
| 13:38.44 | Maldivia | well, I just thought of them, because I heard one of their songs in a newer version, and I like the new version a lot better then the original :) |
| 13:38.46 | Wobin_ | They'd lose their 80's cred if they didn't |
| 13:38.52 | Maldivia | The best of the 80s: Queen!! |
| 13:38.53 | Wobin_ | What's the cover? |
| 13:38.58 | Wobin_ | Maldivia: Truly |
| 13:39.13 | Maldivia | well, my playlist changed to Funkstar Deluze, with ho |
| 13:39.25 | Maldivia | Funtstar Deluxe, with his version of Blinded by the Light |
| 13:39.28 | Maldivia | arghh |
| 13:39.31 | Maldivia | can't spell today |
| 13:39.38 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 13:39.38 | Maldivia | Funkstar Deluxe |
| 13:40.00 | Wobin_ | Blinded by the light, wrapped up in a deuce with something something sight? |
| 13:40.06 | Maldivia | yep |
| 13:40.51 | Maldivia | bruce springsteen have made a cover of it aswell, I think |
| 13:41.38 | Wobin_ | aha |
| 13:41.39 | Wobin_ | Blinded by the light |
| 13:41.39 | Wobin_ | Revved up like a Deuce |
| 13:41.39 | Wobin_ | Another runner in the night |
| 13:42.08 | Wobin_ | I never knew the words to that =) |
| 13:42.28 | Wobin_ | It was always Blinded by the light, murmermurmer deuce murmerrhubarb night! |
| 13:42.37 | cmunn | It's ok, because Billy Jean is not my lover. |
| 13:42.46 | Wobin_ | And the kid is not your son? |
| 13:42.53 | cmunn | Verily. |
| 13:42.59 | id` | http://darklyrics.com/lyrics/tristania/worldofglass.html#2 |
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| 13:43.16 | Wobin_ | It's all about the Man in the Mirror |
| 13:44.05 | Maldivia | It's a kind of magic.. |
| 13:44.15 | Wobin_ | While Under Pressure |
| 13:44.32 | Maldivia | who wants to break free |
| 13:44.45 | Wobin_ | (omg, Crowded House... I love them) |
| 13:45.10 | Wobin_ | There is freedom within, there is freedom without, try to catch the deluge in a paper cup... |
| 13:45.20 | Maldivia | Everywhere you go, you always take the weather with you? |
| 13:45.30 | Wobin_ | Don't Dream it's Over =) |
| 13:45.51 | cmunn | [Insert Random Lyric Here] |
| 13:45.56 | Maldivia | yeah yeah, I had started the other sentence, before I saw your line :) |
| 13:45.56 | Wobin_ | Now I'm towing my car, there's a hole in my roof, my possessions are causing me suspicion but there's no proof |
| 13:46.52 | Wobin_ | I still like Under Pressure really... although Flash comes close to the top |
| 13:47.18 | Wobin_ | if only for the "Flash Gordon approaching?! What do you mean, Flash Gordon approaching?! OPEN FIRE! ALL WEAPONS!" |
| 13:47.43 | Wobin_ | Release War Rocket Ajax to retrieve his body! |
| 13:48.24 | Maldivia | dispatch war rocket ajax! |
| 13:48.26 | Maldivia | not release |
| 13:48.28 | Wobin_ | Oop =) |
| 13:48.30 | Wobin_ | yeah =) |
| 13:48.56 | Wobin_ | Flash! Flash I love you! but we only have <x> hours to save the world! |
| 13:48.59 | Maldivia | 14 |
| 13:49.02 | Wobin_ | ta =) |
| 13:49.11 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 13:49.12 | Wobin_ | The number just doesn't stick in my memory |
| 13:49.23 | Tain | Numbers? |
| 13:49.24 | Maldivia | and it's "to save the earth" |
| 13:49.24 | Kirkburn | "a beta version of Windows Media Player 11 will be released for Windows XP users inside of 2 weeks" |
| 13:49.33 | Tain | 4 8 15 16 23 42 |
| 13:49.38 | Wobin_ | no no, Tain. |
| 13:49.43 | Wobin_ | nine nine nine nine nine |
| 13:49.46 | Corrodias | for XP users, eh |
| 13:50.02 | cmunn | 867-5309? |
| 13:50.14 | Maldivia | Is this the real live, is this just fantasy, caught in a landslide... |
| 13:50.30 | cmunn | No escape from reality? |
| 13:50.34 | Tain | Sometimes a fantasy is all you need. |
| 13:50.55 | Maldivia | My all time favorite Queen song |
| 13:51.14 | cmunn | It's a good one. |
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| 13:53.04 | cmunn | zOMG, It's Cide! |
| 13:53.05 | Kirkburn | Ooh, useful ... the Vista Defragger runs automatically in the background |
| 13:53.18 | Wobin_ | www.nsftools.com/misc/DilbertRandom.gif |
| 13:53.24 | Cide | hi |
| 13:53.25 | Maldivia | I see a little silhouette of a man, scaramouce, scaramouce, will you do the fandango, thunderbolts and lightning, very very frightening me, galileo, galileo, galileo, galileo, galleo, figoro, magnifico :) |
| 13:53.27 | Josh_Borke | wow, lively bunch today |
| 13:53.29 | Josh_Borke | must be patch day |
| 13:53.42 | Kirkburn | Patch day!? |
| 13:53.46 | Maldivia | maintenance :) |
| 13:53.47 | Josh_Borke | er, maint day |
| 13:53.48 | Josh_Borke | my bad |
| 13:53.59 | Kirkburn | Not for me it ain't :P |
| 13:54.33 | cmunn | Yea, EU maintenance isn't until tomorrow |
| 13:55.01 | Maldivia | id: luckily some of us knows German :) |
| 13:55.31 | Cairenn|sleep | ckknight: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21610#post21610 |
| 13:55.36 | cmunn | Unluckily, some of us are American, and do not concern ourselves with anything outside of our own borders. |
| 13:55.38 | id` | Maldivia: :-) |
| 13:55.51 | Maldivia | ohh, baah - there's an English translation below it :| |
| 13:55.58 | Kalroth | Cairenn: morning sunshine! |
| 13:56.01 | cmunn | Unless we're protecting Democracy and saving the savages. |
| 13:56.02 | id` | Maldivia: I can understand this, but only 40% if i hear it, so i have that site with me all the time :P |
| 13:56.09 | Cairenn | Kalroth: hey cutie :) |
| 13:56.32 | Maldivia | id: hehe |
| 13:56.40 | id` | Maldivia: :') btw @ song |
| 13:57.50 | Kalroth | Cide: is there anything in CTRA that'd ever change current target somehow? |
| 13:57.57 | cmunn | Lol |
| 13:57.58 | Cide | uh oh |
| 13:58.04 | Cide | there might be one thing |
| 13:58.11 | Cide | where is this happening? |
| 13:58.34 | cmunn | My music appreciation teacher just said "To understand this music... It's kinda of like getting drunk and watching Teletubbies." |
| 13:58.57 | Wobin_ | hehe which music? |
| 13:59.21 | Maldivia | Kalroth: the rogue complaining about loosing his combo points at random times ? |
| 13:59.35 | Kalroth | Maldivia: Nope, myself |
| 13:59.59 | Cide | again: (15:58:10) (Cide) where is this happening? :) |
| 14:00.03 | Kalroth | Cide: During fights I sometimes (quite often actually) target my old target |
| 14:00.07 | Kalroth | (yes, was typing :) |
| 14:00.22 | Cide | well, where? |
| 14:00.36 | Cide | are you in BWL? MC? not in an instance at all? |
| 14:00.40 | Kalroth | Specifically I've had it happen on Firemaw, Flamegor and Draknoids of Nef phase 1 |
| 14:00.42 | Kalroth | that I can remember |
| 14:00.57 | Kalroth | Also in AQ40 now that I think about it, during Bugs encounter |
| 14:01.13 | Cide | bugs could be due to fear, but I thought they changed that |
| 14:01.29 | Cide | as for in BWL, that's most likely the chromaggus bug. |
| 14:01.37 | Cide | I thought I fixed it, though |
| 14:01.37 | Kalroth | oh? |
| 14:02.03 | Kalroth | Well I don't know for sure that it's CTRA, it's just that others experience it too and we don't share many addons |
| 14:02.07 | Kalroth | Other than CTRA |
| 14:02.33 | Cide | anyway, chromaggus boss mod does... |
| 14:02.35 | Kalroth | I'm using the latest beta (as of 3-4 days ago anyways) |
| 14:02.39 | Cide | if ( not UnitExists("target") or ( UnitName("target") ~= CT_RABOSS_CHROMAGGUS_BOSSNAME and UnitClass("player") ~= CT_RA_ROGUE ) ) then |
| 14:02.39 | Cide | TargetByName(CT_RABOSS_CHROMAGGUS_BOSSNAME); |
| 14:02.39 | Cide | shallRestoreTarget = true; |
| 14:02.39 | Cide | end |
| 14:02.43 | Cide | (sorry for the slight spam) |
| 14:02.54 | Kalroth | mmm, but it shouldn't activate during other fights or? |
| 14:03.00 | cmunn | zOMG /ban |
| 14:03.26 | Cide | no, it "shouldn't" happen in combat |
| 14:03.28 | Cide | but it has in the past, seeing as rogues lost their combo points because it tried to target chrom |
| 14:03.44 | Kalroth | oh of course; TargetByName(CT_RABOSS_CHROMAGGUS_BOSSNAME) is like /target Chromaggus, right? |
| 14:03.49 | Cide | (hence UnitClass("player") ~= CT_RA_ROGUE) |
| 14:03.52 | Cide | yes |
| 14:03.53 | Kalroth | and it'd select something similar if Chrom isn't around |
| 14:04.02 | Kalroth | like a Chromatic Draknoid .. :) |
| 14:04.14 | Cide | but then I have.. if ( shallRestoreTarget ) then TargetLastTarget(); end |
| 14:04.23 | Kalroth | aha |
| 14:04.44 | Kalroth | well it could be that then, but I'm having problems reproducing it out of raids |
| 14:04.57 | Kalroth | (read: haven't been able to) |
| 14:04.59 | Cide | but it could still bug out, I guess |
| 14:05.00 | id` | userscripts.org working for anyone? i wanna learn greasemonkey :( |
| 14:05.14 | wereHamster | UnitClass() returns a non-localized string.. there is no need for CT_RA_ROGUE |
| 14:05.21 | Cide | that code is only run inside BWL :) |
| 14:05.30 | Kalroth | Cide: makes sense :) |
| 14:05.40 | Cide | wereHamster: as its second argument, yes |
| 14:05.52 | Cide | in other words, I'm lazy |
| 14:05.54 | Kalroth | id`: Nope, it's not responding here either |
| 14:06.15 | Cide | I'm pretty sure it didn't when I started writing CTRA |
| 14:06.20 | wereHamster | Cide .. lazy.. I know that feeling :-P |
| 14:06.26 | Cide | but I also only learned about that fairly recently, so it might've been in without my knowledge |
| 14:07.09 | id` | Kalroth: k |
| 14:07.37 | Maldivia | if ({UnitClass(unit)})[2] == "ROGUE" then ? :) |
| 14:07.49 | Josh_Borke | morning Cairenn |
| 14:07.57 | Cairenn | hey Josh :) |
| 14:08.00 | Cide | wouldn't that create a table |
| 14:08.10 | Maldivia | yeah, was about to say it has a GC overhead :) |
| 14:08.31 | Cide | so I win ;) |
| 14:08.49 | Cide | though, I must ask, did UnitClass always return a non-localized string as its second argument? |
| 14:09.01 | Maldivia | has for a few patches :) |
| 14:09.08 | Cide | did it from the start? |
| 14:09.10 | wereHamster | as long as I know the function, yes |
| 14:09.15 | Cide | since CTRA has been around for quite some time |
| 14:09.22 | Maldivia | but whay are you calling UnitClass("player") - why not initialize a local value, thus save some function-call overhead |
| 14:09.29 | Cide | like, since what, wow 1.3? 1.4? |
| 14:09.55 | Cide | Maldivia: yeah, I could I guess |
| 14:10.01 | wereHamster | the second return value is used as index in RAID_CLASS_COLOR.. |
| 14:10.14 | wereHamster | and this table is the same for all locales |
| 14:10.17 | Cide | I know |
| 14:10.27 | Kalroth | Cide: so the bossmod tries to target Chrom and if it fails, then it restores target? |
| 14:10.40 | Cide | it restores it anyway, that's the problem I think |
| 14:10.41 | wereHamster | wdn.wowinterface.com might help to track it down where this was added |
| 14:11.09 | Cide | if it maintains your current target, then it will TargetLastTarget() anyway which would revert to the last target |
| 14:11.22 | Kalroth | yup |
| 14:11.28 | Kalroth | unless I never did change target :) |
| 14:11.39 | Kalroth | in which case it'd go back anyways |
| 14:11.50 | Cide | I would love to have some way to check if the target actually changed other than monitoring PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 14:12.08 | Cide | like, getting the unitid "lasttarget" or something :) |
| 14:12.11 | Kalroth | you can't just store current target, change target and compare? |
| 14:12.20 | Kalroth | *try to change target |
| 14:12.34 | Cide | it could change to a mob with same name |
| 14:12.41 | Cide | s/a/a different/ |
| 14:12.46 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 14:12.48 | Cide | haha, I failed |
| 14:12.52 | krka|work | would you people like an addon that automagically cached tooltips? |
| 14:12.53 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 14:12.56 | Cide | it could change to a different mob with same name |
| 14:13.02 | Kalroth | Cide: Well there's never more than one Chromaggus afaik :) |
| 14:13.13 | Kalroth | oh right, you mean the new selection |
| 14:13.17 | Kalroth | hrm |
| 14:13.19 | Cide | no, but say you have "Chromaggus Guard" targeted |
| 14:13.21 | Cide | it does /target Chromaggus, it targets another "Chromaggus Guard" |
| 14:13.26 | Kalroth | *nod* |
| 14:13.26 | Cide | same name, different target |
| 14:14.03 | Cide | mostly a theoretical flaw I guess, it wouldn't happen very often practically |
| 14:14.16 | Kalroth | then you can make a funk algo where you do last target and if last target is the same as new target, then don't switch otherwise uhm, don't switch |
| 14:14.38 | Kalroth | no wait, I messed that one up |
| 14:14.42 | Kalroth | ignore :p |
| 14:14.49 | Cide | :) |
| 14:15.07 | Kaso | Is there any way of Checking when a player refreshes their buff without Hooking the CastSpell function that im missing? it's an awful lot of effort to hook those functions for my little addon. |
| 14:15.27 | Kalroth | Cide: I'll just edit the bossmod to include warriors as well as rogues until it's fixed :P |
| 14:15.31 | krka|work | refreshes their buff? |
| 14:15.44 | Kalroth | home, not homo! |
| 14:15.44 | Kaso | buffs before the previous buff has expired |
| 14:15.46 | krka|work | you can listen for PLAYER_AURA change i guess |
| 14:15.48 | krka|work | hm |
| 14:16.06 | krka|work | check the combat log? |
| 14:16.39 | Kaso | it only shows X gains y. when you dont already have the buff |
| 14:17.04 | Kaso | or "You gain y." i should say |
| 14:17.07 | Cide | Kaso: check buff times, that's what I do |
| 14:17.16 | krka|work | yeah, that would be the best idea |
| 14:17.24 | Cide | if the buff time increases, it was renewed |
| 14:17.25 | Kaso | Hmm yeh that sounds good, ill try that, thanks |
| 14:17.33 | krka|work | and only do it on the player_aura event |
| 14:17.34 | krka|work | i think |
| 14:17.39 | krka|work | that should fire... i think |
| 14:17.43 | Cide | that was changed, I believe |
| 14:17.48 | Cide | UNIT_AURA never did for renewing buffs |
| 14:17.53 | Cide | PLAYER_AURA_CHANGED *used to*, but doesn't now |
| 14:18.18 | Cide | at least iirc, I think I had to change the code because I relied on that |
| 14:18.44 | Kaso | PLAYER_AURA_CHANGED doesnt fire on refreshing buff i just checked that |
| 14:19.05 | Cide | yep, they changed it then |
| 14:19.05 | Cide | it used to :( |
| 14:19.08 | krka|work | i see |
| 14:19.46 | Kaso | kk, timers it is then |
| 14:19.56 | id` | i love how haggard is more of a show then just songs |
| 14:19.57 | id` | :P |
| 14:27.53 | Kirkburn | http://www.savetheinternet.com/ |
| 14:28.44 | Kirkburn | Of course, I have no say on the matter, not being a US citizen |
| 14:31.05 | Cairenn|afk | later guys |
| 14:31.18 | Wobin_ | I got my mind set on you! |
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| 14:31.39 | Wobin_ | But it's gonna take money! A whole lot of spending money... to do it right |
| 14:31.43 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 14:32.06 | Wobin_ | Good ol' George Harrison =) |
| 14:45.26 | Wobin_ | oh brilliant |
| 14:45.37 | Wobin_ | USA For Africa - We are the world =) |
| 14:56.47 | Wobin_ | And Starship Jefferson - Nothing's gonna stop us now =P |
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| 14:59.33 | Kirkburn | Ooh, the new IE beta looks nice |
| 15:09.25 | Kirkburn | Ahoy hoy, we seem to be having problems again |
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| 15:12.50 | wereHamster | welcome back :) |
| 15:15.14 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 15:16.33 | Adrine | [07:55] treke|home: ... |
| 15:16.33 | Adrine | [07:55] treke|home: this isnt a good sign |
| 15:16.33 | Adrine | [07:55] treke|home: woke up and sat down at my desk to find empty beer bottles and a half-upgraded server |
| 15:16.37 | Adrine | Ahaha! |
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| 15:17.00 | zeeg | anyone here pretty familiar w/ us passports |
| 15:17.05 | zeeg | trying to do my own photos :P |
| 15:17.13 | zeeg | as walmart's photo center wasnt open when i went up there and i dont wanna drive 15 mins ago |
| 15:17.14 | zeeg | *again |
| 15:17.16 | Adrine | You can get 'em done at most any copy shop for like $10 |
| 15:17.35 | zeeg | hrm |
| 15:17.53 | zeeg | i dont know if we have one of those |
| 15:18.19 | krka|work | anyone have lots of addons that scan tooltips? |
| 15:18.29 | Adrine | I havea few, krka |
| 15:18.36 | krka|work | (would be a perfect candidate for my new addon, if so) |
| 15:18.44 | krka|work | ((when i finish it :P)) |
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| 15:20.03 | Wobin_ | zeeg: I have a feeling that the requirements for passport photos are -really- stringent |
| 15:21.07 | Kirkburn | Well for UK ones they have to be a specific size with a plain, light colour background |
| 15:21.28 | Kirkburn | I did mine using a digital camera and a printer. And some scissors. |
| 15:21.57 | krka|work | has to be a certain size, with certain length between ear and chin and one visible ear, et.c. |
| 15:21.58 | krka|work | afaik |
| 15:22.10 | Kirkburn | For our passports they don't use the original thing you send in anyway |
| 15:22.26 | Kirkburn | krka, that sounds rather ott |
| 15:22.48 | Cide | we have that too actually (sweden) |
| 15:22.55 | Cide | oh, maybe krka lives in sweden! |
| 15:22.58 | krka|work | :P |
| 15:22.58 | Wobin_ | zeeg: American? |
| 15:23.08 | Wobin_ | Cause the american one has to be perfect =P |
| 15:23.13 | Kirkburn | (and also nonsensical if you have been disfigured)) |
| 15:23.27 | zeeg | hrm |
| 15:23.36 | krka|work | i'm sure earless people get exception |
| 15:23.51 | Kirkburn | Then that's discrimination :) |
| 15:23.53 | Wobin_ | You can't have a fringe, you have to be able to see both ears, if you're wearing glasses, you have to be able to see the eyes clearly etc |
| 15:23.54 | zeeg | ill just call this photo place and see how much they charge |
| 15:23.57 | zeeg | but ya im american |
| 15:24.01 | zeeg | and those sound like my guidelines too |
| 15:24.04 | zeeg | i edited it in photoshop |
| 15:24.08 | zeeg | but the shadow from the flash may be a problem |
| 15:24.18 | Kirkburn | But yeah, what Wobin_ said, definately |
| 15:24.22 | Wobin_ | yeah, most photo places use like a diffused flash |
| 15:24.32 | Kirkburn | Don't use a flash? Stay in a bright room? |
| 15:24.41 | zeeg | ya i didnt think about that |
| 15:24.50 | zeeg | if it only costs like 10 bucks at this photo place ill just go do it there |
| 15:25.03 | Kirkburn | 'only' |
| 15:25.18 | zeeg | im poor atm ;P |
| 15:25.32 | zeeg | paychecks dont come for a few days |
| 15:25.37 | zeeg | and this is kind of a rush thing |
| 15:25.40 | Kirkburn | No printer or camera? |
| 15:25.45 | zeeg | i have camera/printer |
| 15:25.52 | zeeg | you had to submit 2 photos right |
| 15:25.57 | zeeg | do they have to be different? |
| 15:26.12 | zeeg | oh i didnt paste the url |
| 15:26.15 | zeeg | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.18 | Kirkburn | I've never seen a US passport, but doubt it |
| 15:26.41 | Kirkburn | Sexeh. Looks fine to me |
| 15:26.46 | zeeg | hrm |
| 15:27.13 | krka|work | hm, faking this tooltip may be trickier than i thought |
| 15:27.29 | zeeg | i want to be 100% sure though |
| 15:27.33 | Wobin_ | That should be fine, zeeg |
| 15:27.57 | Wobin_ | Although you may want to check the embassy's webpage for precise details as to what they look for |
| 15:28.22 | zeeg | Two color photos no hats, full view of face, clear, color, thin paper w/ plain light (white or off-white) background |
| 15:28.33 | zeeg | the only thing im not sure about is the background |
| 15:28.54 | Kirkburn | er, it's plain, light, etc |
| 15:29.05 | zeeg | k |
| 15:29.09 | zeeg | i need photo paper now i spose |
| 15:29.17 | Kirkburn | thin paper |
| 15:29.23 | zeeg | what is thin paper? |
| 15:29.23 | zeeg | lol |
| 15:29.30 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 15:29.40 | Wobin_ | less than 60gsm? |
| 15:29.43 | Kirkburn | Just don't use card :) |
| 15:29.46 | zeeg | i dont know what a gsm is |
| 15:29.48 | zeeg | lol |
| 15:29.55 | Kirkburn | grams per square metre |
| 15:29.56 | Wobin_ | grams per square metre =P |
| 15:29.56 | zeeg | ill go dig for some photo paper |
| 15:30.08 | Wobin_ | Although I don't know what they use in the US |
| 15:30.09 | wereHamster | czech authorities have strange requirements for passport photos: the background has to be a gradient between blue on top and white on bottom.. |
| 15:30.15 | zeeg | i cant use normal paper can I? |
| 15:30.19 | Wobin_ | You and your imperial measurements |
| 15:30.25 | Kirkburn | zeeg, should be fine |
| 15:30.37 | zeeg | oh |
| 15:30.37 | zeeg | ok] |
| 15:30.38 | Kirkburn | As long as the photo comes out okay and doesn't go thru the paper |
| 15:31.02 | Kirkburn | Btw, surely it describes what you need on the forms? |
| 15:31.12 | Wobin_ | wereHamster: Perhaps at Customs, they've got that colourscheme as the wallpaper, so they don't want to tax their staff's eyesight =) |
| 15:31.48 | zeeg | you choose to submit digitized photos, they must meet the same requirements of all passport photographs. In addition, digitized photographs are always produced on digital printers. Some printers will produce a photograph in which the dots are seen. Visible dots distort the image by making it look grainy. Acceptable photos have a continuous tone image that looks very photo-like. |
| 15:32.59 | Wobin_ | ie laser |
| 15:33.03 | Wobin_ | possibly |
| 15:33.17 | Wobin_ | colourlaser would be better than a bubblejet |
| 15:33.50 | wereHamster | Wobin_, nah.. they just want to make more money.. citizen comes with his own photo, they say go to the next room, our photograph is ready there to take a photo of you.. 200CZK, thanks |
| 15:35.59 | Kirkburn | Normal printers can easily print a high enough quality photo |
| 15:36.32 | Adrine | I would just like to take a moment... |
| 15:36.38 | Adrine | ...and say "Ha ha, hunters!" |
| 15:36.49 | Adrine | Because really, FD->trap is the most infurating thing in the known world. |
| 15:37.16 | krka|work | yay me, i made a cruisecontrol project that reboots cruisecontrol |
| 15:37.23 | Josh_Borke | adrine :lol |
| 15:37.27 | Josh_Borke | trap-dance! |
| 15:37.39 | Wobin_ | Adrine: Have they nerfed that? |
| 15:37.40 | Josh_Borke | except when you get in melee range and they FD+trap you then :-( |
| 15:37.41 | Josh_Borke | that sucx |
| 15:37.50 | Adrine | Test realms have a 5-second delay after FD before the hunter is out of combat. |
| 15:38.01 | Adrine | The hunters are going absolutely berzerk about it. |
| 15:38.02 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 15:38.04 | Josh_Borke | oOoOo. interesting |
| 15:38.07 | Wobin_ | I can imagine =P |
| 15:38.23 | Wobin_ | It certainly takes traps out of PVP with that method =P |
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| 15:39.54 | hyperChipmunk | they did that two patches ago, when they made trap effects not work whenever the hunter isn't able to cast spells |
| 15:40.15 | Wobin_ | But did they work after the timeout? |
| 15:40.28 | Cide | are you kidding me? |
| 15:40.31 | Cide | that would fuck up raiding I bet |
| 15:40.51 | Adrine | Cide: How do you figure? |
| 15:40.57 | Cide | "hey let's pull that mo.. oh shit! feign death <wait 5 seconds while mob smashes hunter's face>" |
| 15:41.04 | Adrine | The aggro wipe is still there. There's just a 5-second window before they go OOC. |
| 15:41.13 | Cide | perhaps |
| 15:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | nothing more fun than laying a trap, and getting a message that it fails to do anything because I'M polymorphed |
| 15:41.16 | Cide | if it works that way |
| 15:41.23 | zeeg | ok so |
| 15:41.24 | Cide | ooc usually means "not being on any aggro list" |
| 15:41.27 | zeeg | bad idea to print this on an inkjet? |
| 15:42.16 | Wobin_ | Print it out and look at it |
| 15:42.26 | zeeg | k |
| 15:42.31 | Adrine | Well |
| 15:42.46 | Adrine | Rogue Vanish right now, on bosses, doesn't actually take you OOC anymore |
| 15:42.54 | Adrine | But it is a complete aggro wipe the instant you use it |
| 15:43.12 | Adrine | You remain on the threat list (major complaint there, since we can't vanish to save a repair bill), but your threat level is reset to 0 when you vanish., |
| 15:43.28 | Josh_Borke | i hate rogues :- |
| 15:43.29 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
| 15:43.57 | Adrine | What class are you, JoshBorke? |
| 15:44.01 | Josh_Borke | paladin |
| 15:44.12 | Adrine | Paladins are pretty dangerous versus rogues now, actually. |
| 15:44.19 | Josh_Borke | well, i was in 1.9 |
| 15:44.25 | Adrine | Pre-revamp, they were an easy (albeit extended) kill. |
| 15:44.33 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 15:44.40 | Josh_Borke | but i don't spec for killing rogues anymore |
| 15:44.40 | Adrine | Now I have to pull out my all best tricks to beat the good ones |
| 15:44.44 | Tain | Yeah I didn't agree with that at all with Vanish, I don't see why you should stay on the hate list. |
| 15:45.33 | Wobin_ | Same with FD I guess? |
| 15:45.55 | Wobin_ | That's pretty crap |
| 15:46.13 | Tain | I never quite understood Hunters getting FD in the first place. |
| 15:46.29 | Wobin_ | It prevents wipe saves... I guess only the pally sacrifice is the only alliance wipesaver (aside from SS) |
| 15:46.33 | Adrine | Hunters manage to successfully FD in raids from what I've seen. :/ |
| 15:46.39 | krka|work | hunters should only have autoshot |
| 15:46.49 | Kalroth | <Adrine> Test realms have a 5-second delay after FD before the hunter is out of combat. <- sweet |
| 15:46.52 | Josh_Borke | Wobin_: indeed |
| 15:46.57 | Adrine | But rogues, stealthed and long gone, are magically seen by enemies and turned into a fine leather-scented red mist. |
| 15:47.05 | Wobin_ | Mmm |
| 15:47.07 | Wobin_ | Mist. |
| 15:47.44 | Wobin_ | Heheh. I was just thinking. You know when Rend says "I want that one's boots"? |
| 15:47.57 | Wobin_ | Wouldn't it be funny if you did wipe on Rend, you res without your boots =P |
| 15:48.13 | Adrine | No, it really wouldn't be. :P |
| 15:48.19 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 15:48.21 | krka|work | yeah it would |
| 15:48.22 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 15:48.26 | Josh_Borke | he could mail them back to you :D |
| 15:48.30 | krka|work | people would equip crap boots before doing it |
| 15:48.30 | Adrine | Mail would be ok! |
| 15:48.32 | krka|work | or unequp boots |
| 15:48.35 | Wobin_ | "Sorry, they didn't fit" |
| 15:48.36 | Adrine | But I would cry if I lost my boost. |
| 15:48.38 | Josh_Borke | "I got tired of these craptastic boots" |
| 15:48.43 | Adrine | Especially after the cost of the enchant on 'em. |
| 15:48.54 | krka|work | "WTF, these are soulbound , i can't use" |
| 15:48.59 | Adrine | I mean, I'm an enchanter and provide my own mats, and agi on boots and gloves still makes me wince. |
| 15:50.42 | zeeg | hrm |
| 15:50.45 | zeeg | they look a bit grainy |
| 15:51.32 | Wobin_ | zeeg: If you think it looks grainy, I can almost guaratee so will the passport people =) |
| 15:52.50 | zeeg | im just gonna go to this placd |
| 15:52.51 | zeeg | place |
| 15:52.52 | zeeg | $21 |
| 15:53.03 | Tain | I always say, if there's a good place to skimp it's on your passport! |
| 15:53.36 | Wobin_ | Hehe |
| 15:53.48 | Wobin_ | Make sure you look grumpy in the photo |
| 15:54.04 | Wobin_ | Cause if you come off the flight looking happy, they'll think you're high |
| 15:54.21 | Wobin_ | (actually I think one of the rules for the american passports is that you can't smile =P) |
| 15:55.02 | Tain | It's not a rule, or at least not a typically enforced one that I've seen, but I've always seen it strongly suggested not to smile. |
| 15:55.58 | Tain | So far I haven't been detained in any foreign countries, so I guess it's working. |
| 15:56.26 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.12 | Tain | It can conveniently double as a mugshot. |
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| 16:00.39 | wereHamster | I've run into this strange problems with frame scripts in my addon.. bottom line: :IsVisible() called from the OnUpdate script may return nil under certain circumstances or IOW OnUpdate may be called after the frame is hidden (and after the OnHide script is executed). What do you think about it.. bug in WoW? working as intended? |
| 16:00.57 | Wobin_ | Hehe |
| 16:01.04 | Wobin_ | Billie Jean, is not my lover =P |
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| 16:02.23 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: could it be as Iriel said, the OnUpdate is registered to being called the same frame as the OnHide was called? |
| 16:02.45 | wereHamster | sure, but the problem is still the same |
| 16:03.20 | wereHamster | ahm.. not sure what you mean.. ? |
| 16:03.28 | Josh_Borke | either way, i'd say it's a bug |
| 16:06.15 | Wobin_ | Oh Nena... you're such a wonderful german cliche =P |
| 16:09.59 | wereHamster | the OnUpdate script is "local d = this.data; if (condition(d)) then show/hide frames end", so there is no way the OnHide script could screw up the current frame because that is the last thing I do with that frame. |
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| 16:14.47 | Qzot | Guten Morgen. |
| 16:17.07 | wereHamster | another proof: when I check this:IsVisible() as the very first instruction in the OnUpdate script, it returns nil. That means WoW.exe had control and executed the OnUpdate script, no :Hide()/:Show() happened before from within lua in the same lua-execution slice. |
| 16:19.39 | Kalroth | moin Qzot |
| 16:19.51 | Qzot | How's life? |
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| 17:02.13 | Eraphine|Lab | hrm viacom just bought xfire |
| 17:17.23 | Josh_Borke | morning tem |
| 17:17.26 | Josh_Borke | morning iriel |
| 17:17.29 | Tem | morning |
| 17:18.12 | Iriel | morning |
| 17:21.37 | Maldivia | morning |
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| 17:23.42 | krka | time to release FAIAP |
| 17:23.45 | krka | (yay!) |
| 17:23.57 | krka | no more runscript hooking either |
| 17:26.17 | Kalroth | Cide: just killed Nef, had to retarget all the time :P |
| 17:26.36 | krka | doh, forgot to take screenshots |
| 17:27.01 | Maldivia | Kalroth: and you're sure it's CT_RA? |
| 17:27.33 | Kalroth | Maldivia: 99% sure, can't test a fixed version before uhmm, thursday |
| 17:27.58 | Kalroth | We're going to AQ40 now, I'll see if it happens there |
| 17:28.00 | Maldivia | OK, because I know Carnival has that bug aswell, causing constant combp-point wipes |
| 17:28.05 | Kalroth | oh! |
| 17:28.07 | Kalroth | oops |
| 17:28.24 | Kalroth | Cide: ignore above slap until I've confirmed it then :P |
| 17:28.24 | Maldivia | or well, I read it somewhere... |
| 17:29.10 | Adrine | Carnival does some kind of target switching, for some reason. |
| 17:29.19 | Kalroth | yup, looking at the code now |
| 17:29.24 | Adrine | Which does cause rogues to lose combo points |
| 17:29.37 | Adrine | I use an older version that doesn't cause that, but I haven't upgraded it in ages. |
| 17:30.57 | Kalroth | well if it does it in AQ40 as well, then Cide is innocent (yeah right!) |
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| 17:31.59 | Qzot | Hmm. Interesting comment about combo points. |
| 17:33.35 | Qzot | I've been thinking of writing a small library that returns a function if it thinks it can safely restore your current target. If nil, it can't. If non-nil, then your code can re-target, do something on the new target, and then call the given function to restore your previous target. |
| 17:34.06 | Adrine | Qzot: Still dangerous for rogues, since if a rogue takes an autoattack while targeting a new target, their old target's CPs are lost. |
| 17:34.19 | Adrine | If you take any kind of offensive action against a new target, your old combo points are lost. |
| 17:34.40 | Iriel | So it's not the target change that hurts, but doing something while the target is 'wrong' ? |
| 17:34.48 | Adrine | Right |
| 17:34.52 | Qzot | Aren't event calls atomic from the standpoint of the client? I'm assuming you would not try to save that puppy across event calls. |
| 17:34.57 | Adrine | Used to be that dropping your current target dropped your points. |
| 17:35.08 | Adrine | Then, they changed it so selecting a new target cleared your points |
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| 17:35.18 | Adrine | Then, they changed it so offensive action against a new target cleared your points |
| 17:35.35 | Qzot | Hmm. Well, that would be incorporated into the lib, whatever the rules are. |
| 17:35.44 | Adrine | Which is still nice, but lord almighty, it is so frustrating to be fighting a hunter, have him FD so you untarget him, have his pet attack you and your client autoselects the pet and you hit it once. |
| 17:35.49 | Adrine | Bye-bye CPs. |
| 17:36.16 | Qzot | But the assumption would be that the call to restore the target would occur on the same event call as when the function was generated. Otherwise, the client is taking their own risks. |
| 17:36.32 | Adrine | Makes sense. |
| 17:36.44 | Adrine | But still, target switching makes me very, very antsy :P |
| 17:36.49 | Qzot | Ah. For FD, I have an anti-FD running. |
| 17:37.06 | Adrine | I'm levelling a warrior and have a really hard time effectively tanking, because I tend to not switch targets out of fear of losing rage :P |
| 17:37.20 | Qzot | Adrine: Exactly right. Which is why I want a library that does it as close to right as possible. |
| 17:38.09 | Josh_Borke | Adrine: lol |
| 17:38.29 | Elviso | why must my addon everday. today it's disconnecting me from the server everytime I run it, lovely. |
| 17:45.52 | krka | approve my addon now Cairenn|afk! |
| 17:49.01 | krka | too slow :/( |
| 17:49.29 | AnduinLothar | imo approval of new versions has got to go... |
| 17:49.52 | krka | yay! |
| 17:49.55 | krka | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4895 |
| 17:49.59 | krka | here you go everyone |
| 17:51.03 | Eraphine|Lab | anyone know what happened to the file that contains MaxCameraDistance ? |
| 17:51.59 | Adrine | config.wtf? |
| 17:53.18 | Eraphine|Lab | oh thanks much |
| 17:54.08 | Eraphine|Lab | hrm, I only see cameraDistanceMaxFactor "2" now |
| 17:54.19 | Eraphine|Lab | anyone know what the range of acceptable values is? |
| 17:55.02 | Elviso | uh krka |
| 17:55.07 | Elviso | I upgraded |
| 17:55.28 | Elviso | and now I have "|c006666ffif|r string|c00996699.|rfind|c00996699(|r|c00ffff77" spammed all in my stuff |
| 17:56.19 | Elviso | Eraphine|Lab: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2478 |
| 17:56.30 | krka | hm Elviso that's odd |
| 17:56.42 | krka | try clear out the editboxes |
| 17:57.06 | krka | actually, it's not very odd |
| 17:57.16 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:57.17 | krka | it's not really compatible with old data |
| 17:57.27 | Elviso | oh |
| 17:57.42 | krka | is it important data? |
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| 17:59.07 | krka | you could fix it manually by: /script local b = <editbox> b:SetText(IndentationLib.decode(b:GetText()) |
| 17:59.22 | krka | i think |
| 18:01.00 | Josh_Borke | don't forget the last ) |
| 18:01.10 | krka | oh sorry |
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| 18:03.36 | Eraphine|Lab | interesting |
| 18:03.55 | krka | what is+ |
| 18:04.51 | Eraphine|Lab | nm |
| 18:04.53 | Eraphine|Lab | sorry |
| 18:05.02 | krka | it wasn't interesting any more? :( |
| 18:05.05 | Eraphine|Lab | the answer to my previous question is 3.4 |
| 18:05.38 | Josh_Borke | ...single value range? ^_^ |
| 18:05.53 | Eraphine|Lab | err, sorry, the max is 3.4 |
| 18:05.57 | Eraphine|Lab | I assume the min is 0 |
| 18:06.17 | Eraphine|Lab | 0 being that you aren't able to zoom out at all, and 3.4 allowing you to zoom out to 50 |
| 18:10.13 | krka | all of you haven't gotten FAIAP yet, I am very disappointed :( |
| 18:11.17 | Josh_Borke | i'll dl when i get home :-0 |
| 18:11.22 | Tain | fap fap fap |
| 18:11.38 | krka | oh right, everyone doesn't go by swedish time |
| 18:11.43 | krka | i forgive you |
| 18:11.53 | Tain | No but I do like Swedish fish |
| 18:12.27 | cmunn | Oooh, [Swedish Fish] ftw. I think you can catch them in Old Ironforge |
| 18:12.56 | Tain | hmm.. I'm contemplating relocating somewhere else in the world. How are Americans treated in Sweden? Could I find a job? |
| 18:13.47 | krka | depends on what kind of job i guess |
| 18:14.00 | krka | actually, i have no idea |
| 18:14.02 | Tain | How about King? Can I be King of Sweden? |
| 18:14.16 | krka | you'd have to overthrow the current one |
| 18:14.26 | zenzelezz | wouldn't take much |
| 18:14.32 | krka | you could marry the crown princess but you'd only become prince |
| 18:14.32 | Tain | Too much work, I'll just stick with I.S. |
| 18:14.45 | Josh_Borke | you could poison the king once you're the prince? |
| 18:14.50 | Tain | Ooh marry a Swedish Princess. That sounds like a fairy tale. |
| 18:15.02 | Josh_Borke | but finish updating visor :D |
| 18:15.04 | Tain | "I'm sorry but the princess is in another castle!" |
| 18:15.20 | zenzelezz | just make sure you go for the younger one |
| 18:15.33 | Josh_Borke | more likely to get the older one though |
| 18:15.35 | Tain | ehn whatever, I'm not picky. |
| 18:15.43 | krka | the swedish prince is the hot one |
| 18:15.50 | Tain | ok well I'm a little picky |
| 18:15.51 | krka | wait, did i say that out loud |
| 18:16.35 | Tain | Wonder if there's any market these days for independant gold farmers in WoW. |
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| 18:17.31 | Tem | I grow weary of these crashes |
| 18:20.29 | Elviso | Weird |
| 18:20.53 | cmunn | Tain: Probably, but you should remember that the reason Chinese Gold Farming is viable is because of the much lower relative cost of living and US to Yen exchange rates |
| 18:21.26 | Tain | I don't want to move to China though. :( |
| 18:21.55 | Elviso | I was disconnecting my client because I was using SendChantMessage(string.gsub("some string with %t","%t",MyVar),..,...,..) |
| 18:22.12 | Tain | hmmm I should see where the US dollar is really strong and just go live off of my savings there. |
| 18:24.02 | zenzelezz | strong? You're years late for that in Europe at least |
| 18:24.53 | Tain | Yeah, maybe Thailand. |
| 18:25.22 | cmunn | I hear Russia is nice this time of the year |
| 18:26.50 | Elviso | or maybe it wasn't SCM(), damnit |
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| 18:57.28 | krka | how do i input swedish characters into wow lua? |
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| 19:10.58 | krka | cool, i just wrote an addon by request in 5 minutes |
| 19:11.01 | krka | easy addon though :P |
| 19:11.58 | Kalroth | krka, can you write an addon that'll give me skills, please?! |
| 19:12.09 | krka | no, can't do that :/ |
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| 19:12.18 | Kalroth | :( |
| 19:12.25 | krka | a friend of mine asked for an addon that localized the zone names to swedish |
| 19:12.44 | Kalroth | lol |
| 19:13.19 | Kalroth | easy to modify the dbc with the names, but .. |
| 19:13.53 | krka | i just did a lookup table with replacements and hooked GetZoneName |
| 19:14.07 | Kalroth | or that :P |
| 19:22.27 | Elviso | question: if I send a table as an argument to another fn(), and then I nil the table in the original fn()....will the 2nd fn() still have access to the table? |
| 19:22.44 | krka | yes |
| 19:23.03 | Elviso | thought so, hrmmm |
| 19:23.14 | Iriel | You're nilling a reference to the table, not the actual table |
| 19:24.14 | Elviso | true |
| 19:25.19 | Elviso | I'm going to prepare so code for pastebin to pose to you guys, because I know there's a 95% chance I'll figure out what I'm doing wrong while I'm copying it over :P |
| 19:25.26 | Elviso | s/so/some/ |
| 19:38.52 | Kremonte | would this work? : |
| 19:38.54 | Kremonte | arg1 = string.gsub(sutring, "<[/?]rainbow>", "") |
| 19:39.00 | Kremonte | to replace <rainbow> and </rainbow> :x |
| 19:39.14 | Adrine | [/?] shouldn't work |
| 19:39.21 | Kremonte | %/? |
| 19:39.26 | Adrine | That should |
| 19:39.31 | Kremonte | domo :D |
| 19:39.35 | Iriel | You dont need to escape the / |
| 19:39.35 | Kremonte | realized my own mistake as you told me |
| 19:39.42 | Kremonte | wait wait |
| 19:39.43 | Kremonte | wah? |
| 19:39.57 | Iriel | isn't special |
| 19:40.03 | Iriel | Sorry, the / isn't special |
| 19:40.12 | Kremonte | ./dump string.gsub("<rainbow>asd</rainbow>", "<%/?rainbow>", "") |
| 19:40.13 | Kremonte | worked |
| 19:40.17 | Kremonte | :) |
| 19:40.26 | Kremonte | actually |
| 19:40.29 | Kremonte | sans % worked too |
| 19:40.32 | Kremonte | % is confusing |
| 19:40.33 | Kremonte | i hate patterns |
| 19:40.45 | Josh_Borke | it's in [] so it doesn't need to be escaped |
| 19:40.50 | Iriel | % is only _needed_ for symbols that are special characters |
| 19:40.55 | Kremonte | don't even need [] |
| 19:40.59 | Kremonte | </?rainbow> worked :3 |
| 19:41.24 | Iriel | but it will work as an 'identity escape' whatever other symbols it appears before as well |
| 19:41.45 | Iriel | So for example, $ is a special character, so you need to use %$ for a literal $ |
| 19:42.49 | Elviso | so I'm having trouble with my drop-down menus....is there anything special I should know? |
| 19:43.54 | Elviso | I can't populate them right now |
| 19:44.15 | Iriel | Elviso : You should know there's _one_ drop down menu and it's shared by everyone |
| 19:44.36 | Iriel | When you call the initialization function on your drop down object, you provide a 'populate this menu' function |
| 19:44.40 | Elviso | huh what?? lol *brain fizzle* |
| 19:44.51 | Iriel | The drop down driver will then call that function whenever you become the user of the dropdown |
| 19:44.52 | Elviso | I have that, I think |
| 19:45.05 | Iriel | It's a common mistake to think you can populate it outside of that function and have it stick |
| 19:51.55 | Elviso | this may sound like a dumb question, but do I have to do anything inparticular to enable a dropdown? like the onClick? |
| 19:52.35 | Iriel | Elviso : Assuming your 'dropdown' inherits from the standard template |
| 19:52.45 | Iriel | Elviso : And you called the appropriate initialization function |
| 19:52.47 | Iriel | Elviso : Then no |
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| 19:56.27 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 19:56.34 | Maldivia | ok, the auto-select reputation to watch when changing zone was way easier to make then I had first imagined :) |
| 19:56.38 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 19:56.53 | Elviso | Maldivia, I think someone already did that |
| 19:57.03 | Maldivia | Elviso: probably :) |
| 19:57.23 | Maldivia | Elviso: but I just added it to my existing reputation mod... 15 lines of code :) |
| 19:57.36 | Elviso | I gotcha, wasn't sure of your intentions :) |
| 19:57.43 | Elviso | AnduinLothar: moo |
| 19:58.05 | Elviso | perhaps you should be AnduinMoothar? |
| 19:58.13 | AnduinLothar | perhaps |
| 19:58.33 | krka | hmm... |
| 19:58.37 | Maldivia | Elviso: I'm often end up coding what I want myself - or well, the "simple" things :) |
| 19:58.51 | Elviso | I see....I'm doing that more and more |
| 19:58.52 | krka | what function gives the strings for the name that shows when hovering a zone on the map? |
| 19:59.18 | Maldivia | GetRealZoneText ? |
| 19:59.43 | Maldivia | ohh, on the map... |
| 19:59.45 | Elviso | or maybe GetZoneText |
| 19:59.52 | krka | hooked all those, no luck |
| 20:00.27 | krka | hooking and replacing for these: GetZoneText, GetSubZoneText, GetRealZoneText, GetMinimapZoneText, GetZonePVPInfo |
| 20:00.37 | krka | and this one... GetMapLandmarkInfo |
| 20:00.42 | Maldivia | when you press M, and hover over the different areas, the text that appears on the top ? |
| 20:00.43 | krka | the map seems to work fo capitals |
| 20:00.48 | krka | exactly that text Maldivia |
| 20:01.10 | krka | is it off limits to us? |
| 20:02.39 | krka | ooh... maybe UpdateMapHighlight |
| 20:02.41 | Maldivia | UpdateMapHighlight(x, y) |
| 20:02.44 | Maldivia | grr |
| 20:04.00 | krka | thanks anyway :) |
| 20:13.49 | Elviso | <Iriel> Elviso : Assuming your 'dropdown' inherits from the standard template |
| 20:14.08 | Elviso | how would I know this? I'm new to WoW/XML GUI stuffs :\ |
| 20:14.28 | Elviso | you may all point and laugh now :) |
| 20:15.22 | Iriel | <Frame name="ElvisoDropDown" inherits="UIDropDownMenuTemplate" enableMouse="true"> |
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| 20:15.49 | Elviso | ok lmc |
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| 20:29.16 | Elviso | i'm so frustrated I'm giving up for today |
| 20:29.19 | Elviso | time to play CS |
| 20:32.46 | AnduinLothar | that ubrs run last night was awesome. 5 pallies, 7 plate wearers and no clothies |
| 20:35.35 | Josh_Borke | lol, nice |
| 20:35.48 | Josh_Borke | 5 pallies, 2 warriors, 3 rogues? |
| 20:35.55 | krka | anyone knows if there exists any localization projects? |
| 20:35.56 | Josh_Borke | er, 1 or 2 druids? |
| 20:36.01 | krka | to convert it to swedish or something |
| 20:36.02 | Josh_Borke | krka: BabbleLib |
| 20:36.05 | Josh_Borke | oh, swedish? no |
| 20:36.23 | krka | basically just renaming all the strings we can access |
| 20:40.34 | AnduinLothar | 2 hunters |
| 20:40.53 | AnduinLothar | and a druid |
| 20:41.16 | AnduinLothar | had so much healing.. |
| 20:41.21 | Josh_Borke | lol, yea |
| 20:41.37 | AnduinLothar | then we swapped out a pally for a priest cause he had to go |
| 20:42.47 | AnduinLothar | but we were guildies and on vent so it was cake |
| 20:53.42 | krka | ooh... cool idea from mazzlefizz, undo function |
| 20:55.19 | krka | tricky to implement though |
| 20:56.45 | Kalroth | C'Thun down :D |
| 20:57.18 | AnduinLothar | grats |
| 20:57.21 | Kalroth | nono |
| 20:57.23 | Kalroth | wasn't us, heh |
| 20:57.27 | AnduinLothar | someone did it on our server earlier this week |
| 20:57.34 | Kalroth | mmmm, I doubt it :P |
| 20:57.57 | AnduinLothar | i could be wrong |
| 20:58.02 | Kalroth | he was bugfixed today |
| 20:58.21 | AnduinLothar | was he unkillable? |
| 20:58.23 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Karen@CPE00045a2bfcbc-CM000f212f84be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:58.30 | Kalroth | http://web.telia.com/~u52319879/awake/cthundown.jpg |
| 20:58.31 | Kalroth | yup |
| 20:59.39 | AnduinLothar | that eye is good loot |
| 21:00.09 | Kalroth | can't wait to find out what it doesn't, I'm thinking legendary caster necklace quest thingy |
| 21:00.46 | Tem | terrific |
| 21:00.51 | Tem | more content I'll never see |
| 21:01.05 | AnduinLothar | the eye is a neck |
| 21:01.15 | Kalroth | oh, no it isn't |
| 21:01.21 | Kalroth | it's like the Ony/Nef head |
| 21:01.21 | Kirkburn | Lol 500 rep |
| 21:01.27 | Kalroth | you turn it in for 3 different rewards |
| 21:01.37 | Tem | no brood rep for killing cthun? |
| 21:01.39 | AnduinLothar | wow, i'm out of it today |
| 21:01.57 | krka | you want to have an eye in the back of your neck? |
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| 21:02.13 | AnduinLothar | totally reading things that aren't there |
| 21:02.17 | Maldivia | cthun down... for real ? |
| 21:02.21 | Josh_Borke | wow |
| 21:02.24 | Josh_Borke | that was pretty quick |
| 21:02.40 | Adrine | He's down. |
| 21:02.41 | Adrine | http://web.telia.com/~u52319879/awake/headrewards.jpg |
| 21:02.42 | Adrine | Also. |
| 21:02.47 | Kirkburn | Not only that but I SPY CLEARFONT |
| 21:02.49 | Adrine | Those rewards seem kinda weak, comparatively. |
| 21:02.57 | Josh_Borke | lol kirkburn |
| 21:03.13 | Kirkburn | I'm happy :P |
| 21:03.31 | AnduinLothar | amulet was what i was thinking of |
| 21:03.37 | krka | heh |
| 21:03.41 | krka | clearfont RULES |
| 21:03.42 | AnduinLothar | the neck of c'thun. played with it in testing |
| 21:03.42 | Josh_Borke | k, when is ouro going down? |
| 21:05.05 | Kirkburn | Btw, thread? |
| 21:05.20 | groll | ctun down if u missed it |
| 21:05.28 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 21:05.36 | Josh_Borke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=479141&s=new&tmp=1#new |
| 21:06.10 | groll | oh hehe i was late :P |
| 21:07.39 | Josh_Borke | anyways, bye :-) |
| 21:07.40 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Josh_Borke (n=Josh@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 21:07.58 | Kirkburn | The EU rocks, too :) |
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| 21:15.29 | Maldivia | lol... the eu forums cant handle the preasure :) |
| 21:16.02 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 21:16.30 | Maldivia | I've been getting error messages and timeouts, and quite a few of them |
| 21:19.49 | JoshBorke | wb cair |
| 21:19.57 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 21:20.16 | Qzot | Cairenn: Sorry to disappear on you last night. The machine I proxy through must have died. |
| 21:20.37 | Cairenn | Qzot: not a problem sweetie, I just figured your flight got called or something |
| 21:20.42 | Cairenn | thanks Josh |
| 21:21.13 | Qzot | Cairenn: Nah. About 5 minutes later. But I proxy via a Linux box to here. |
| 21:21.21 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 21:21.24 | krka | that's your first guess? mine would have been abduction by aliens for good ol' probing fun |
| 21:21.47 | Qzot | She *knew* I was waiting to board. |
| 21:21.48 | Cairenn | either way, not a big deal, knew you were gonna be poofing shortly anyway, so is all good :) |
| 21:21.57 | Kirkburn | Btw, if people hadn't seen, the MVPs now has little animated avatars active :) |
| 21:21.59 | Qzot | And she *didn't* know about the aliens. |
| 21:22.06 | Qzot | (*shhh*) |
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| 21:22.33 | Kirkburn | Do they all have the same avatar? |
| 21:23.39 | Maldivia | So who has an EU accounts I can borrow right now, I want to see the drops :) |
| 21:23.39 | Kirkburn | er, http://web.telia.com/~u52319879/awake/headrewards.jpg |
| 21:23.44 | Cide | that, plus |
| 21:23.51 | Kirkburn | It was posted earlier :P |
| 21:23.53 | Cide | (inc some spam) |
| 21:23.54 | Cide | Grasp of the Old God (belt) |
| 21:23.54 | Cide | 15 sta, 19 int, +59 healing, 7mana/5s |
| 21:23.58 | Kirkburn | ooh |
| 21:23.59 | Cide | DPS Ring (dunno the name) |
| 21:24.00 | Cide | +27 agi, +17 sta |
| 21:24.08 | Adrine | Ring of the Godslayer |
| 21:24.26 | Cide | thanks |
| 21:24.51 | Elkano | need on the cloak |
| 21:25.15 | Kirkburn | ClearFont's new tagline: "Helps you beat C'thun! Honest!" |
| 21:25.16 | Elkano | and the ring... thanks |
| 21:25.37 | Adrine | Kirkburn: "Clearfont: Preferred by 1 out of 1 World First C'Thun Guilds!" |
| 21:27.11 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:27.14 | Tem | Iriel: when do you turn pale blue? |
| 21:27.23 | Cairenn | Tem: reading my mind? |
| 21:27.33 | Maldivia | ClearFont: The bane of C'thun |
| 21:27.49 | Cairenn | oh, Tem? Any more drama on the thread? |
| 21:27.50 | Tem | Cairenn: don't feel bad. Iriel does it to me all the damn time |
| 21:27.51 | Kirkburn | hehe, I'm def gonna do one of them |
| 21:27.57 | Cairenn | heh, I've noticed |
| 21:28.04 | Tem | Cairenn: they appear to be ignoring my post |
| 21:28.08 | Cairenn | funny that |
| 21:28.13 | Tem | Cairenn: probably because I made them all look like fools |
| 21:28.35 | Elkano | btw: better shot -> http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6462/cthunlewt7ev.jpg |
| 21:28.35 | Cairenn | funny how they never acknowledged the one that you never uploaded to their site at all to begin with, too |
| 21:29.31 | Tem | no, I did upload to them |
| 21:29.40 | Kirkburn | Rubbish shot Elkano, doesn't use ClearFont ;) |
| 21:29.45 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 21:30.29 | Cairenn | Tem: thought you didn't upload (one or another) |
| 21:30.37 | Tem | no |
| 21:30.48 | Cairenn | knew there had been a couple you had, thought there was at least one you hadn't |
| 21:30.48 | Tem | they only updated their database with addons that I had uploaded there previously |
| 21:30.50 | Cairenn | my mistake |
| 21:31.04 | Tem | but they got all the updates from wowi |
| 21:31.07 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 21:31.18 | Tem | because I for damn sure didn't put em there |
| 21:31.26 | Cairenn | funny how you aren't the only one that can't find how to "delete" either ... |
| 21:31.37 | Tem | right |
| 21:31.47 | Tem | I can't look now since I don't have anything there to remove |
| 21:31.54 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 21:31.59 | Tem | but I did look for a bit before removing the versions |
| 21:32.02 | krka | what thread tem? |
| 21:32.08 | Cairenn | well, others can't find it either |
| 21:32.10 | Tem | http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=23213 |
| 21:32.12 | krka | thanks |
| 21:32.32 | krka | FAIAP will only be on wowi FTW |
| 21:32.34 | Cairenn | Kael can't, nor can Hyper |
| 21:33.28 | Cairenn | s/can't/can't figure out how/ |
| 21:33.45 | krka | me neither |
| 21:33.51 | hyperChipmunk | I tried it like a month ago |
| 21:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | they probably don't know anythign beyond their own admin panels |
| 21:34.37 | Elkano | you can delete your files but not the entry I think :/ |
| 21:34.41 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 21:34.46 | hyperChipmunk | it's like that on wowi too |
| 21:34.54 | hyperChipmunk | unless you're an admin or something |
| 21:35.07 | hyperChipmunk | but I've never had reason to take my stuff off of wowi, so it doesn't bother me =P |
| 21:35.29 | Kirkburn | When did 1.10 come out? |
| 21:35.45 | Cairenn | that's what they are bitching about, though ... trying to make it sound like the authors are just using CG to "promote other sites" ... that they are deleting files, but not the entries, and that they should delete the entire entry |
| 21:35.54 | Cairenn | yet, funny, no one can find a way to do so |
| 21:36.07 | Cairenn | as for deleting from WoWI, all you need do is ask |
| 21:36.12 | hyperChipmunk | I know =) |
| 21:36.18 | hyperChipmunk | but like i said, it never bothered me |
| 21:36.30 | hyperChipmunk | and you don't complain about it |
| 21:36.36 | hyperChipmunk | or change it without my permission |
| 21:36.40 | Cairenn | yup |
| 21:36.45 | krka | would be nice to have a "ask for removal" button somewhere though |
| 21:36.48 | hyperChipmunk | so no reason for me to want to delete |
| 21:36.53 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: 27 March |
| 21:36.55 | Cairenn | in US |
| 21:36.57 | Maldivia | 1.10 Patch Notes - 3/28/06 |
| 21:36.59 | Kirkburn | Ta |
| 21:37.00 | Cairenn | krka: that's a good idea |
| 21:37.16 | krka | not that i'd use it that much |
| 21:37.16 | hyperChipmunk | krka: I was thinking the same |
| 21:37.21 | hyperChipmunk | likewise |
| 21:37.23 | krka | sometimes stuff gets obsolete though |
| 21:37.32 | krka | actually, almost all my stuff becomes obsolete :/ |
| 21:37.35 | Tain | Just like people. |
| 21:37.42 | Tem | oh hell |
| 21:37.47 | Tem | I didn't realise something |
| 21:37.55 | Tem | I didn't read their posts very well |
| 21:38.06 | krka | 2ldr? |
| 21:38.18 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: if you ever wonder the date on a major patch going live, you can always check the news forum at WoWI ( http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=5 ) for the date I post the news about it |
| 21:38.21 | Elkano | well, I've written 2 fix addons for bugs that Blizzar had in the German localization ^^' |
| 21:38.50 | Cairenn | and for *all* patches, major or minor, you can always check the wdn: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 21:38.54 | Maldivia | or just check the official patch notes, they have dates :) |
| 21:39.00 | Cairenn | that too |
| 21:39.01 | Maldivia | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch1p10.html |
| 21:39.17 | Kirkburn | =) ta |
| 21:39.34 | Maldivia | Cairenn: btw, what is Beladonna doing, no 1.10.2 test-server up on wdn yet :) |
| 21:39.45 | Cairenn | it's tax season |
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| 21:39.50 | Cairenn | Bela is up to his eyebrows |
| 21:40.12 | hyperChipmunk | oh wow, how come nobody ever told me about that wdn |
| 21:40.22 | hyperChipmunk | that's darn snazzy |
| 21:40.38 | krka | i'd complain about the need for an admin to authorize addons on wowi except i never have to wait long :P |
| 21:41.19 | Guillotine | krka, FAIAP look awesome |
| 21:41.33 | krka | thanks |
| 21:41.57 | krka | my first visual addon, kinda |
| 21:42.12 | Maldivia | I have a feeling, that AQ40 will be very laggy tonight, every single raid guild will be trying to get c'thun probably :| |
| 21:42.25 | Guillotine | so, I can't find one already made, so I'm making an addon with a little count-down bar for the 5-second rule. can anyone think of a better way of doing it than just looking for when the caster loses mana? |
| 21:43.02 | Maldivia | the SPELL_STOP_CASTING or similar event, for when you've finished casting the spell |
| 21:43.16 | Maldivia | there's a similar event for channeled spells |
| 21:43.28 | Maldivia | cant remember the exact names of the events |
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| 21:43.37 | krka | Guillotine, that won't work for 0 mana spells |
| 21:43.37 | Guillotine | but the 5-second rule doesn't apply to spells that use no mana |
| 21:43.50 | krka | hmm.. really? |
| 21:43.52 | Guillotine | krka: thats ok. 5-second rule doesnt start when a spell uses no mana |
| 21:43.54 | Guillotine | nope |
| 21:43.59 | krka | even for clearcasting? |
| 21:44.07 | Adrine | Correct. Inner Focus doesn't seem to trigger the 5-sec rule :) |
| 21:44.09 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12 specifically http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107 ... wdn is listed there |
| 21:44.24 | krka | what if the spell has a cost, but something else makes it free? |
| 21:45.21 | Tem | Cairenn: I edited my post |
| 21:45.30 | Guillotine | krka: no 5-second rule |
| 21:45.34 | Guillotine | ^_^ |
| 21:46.12 | Maldivia | Guillotine: but comparing mana might not be the best option, what if I use Inner Focus as a priest, but I have a viper sting on me, I loose mana because of the sting, so the addon things I spend mana casting ? |
| 21:46.13 | krka | then that solution is good i guess |
| 21:46.23 | Guillotine | maldivia: thats the problem |
| 21:46.39 | Guillotine | but I figure it will occur more often that you cast a spell with no mana cast than that you lose mana due to another effect |
| 21:46.55 | Guillotine | in pve at least |
| 21:47.07 | Maldivia | in pve, yes :) |
| 21:47.20 | Maldivia | and who cares about 5sec in pvp :) |
| 21:47.21 | Guillotine | yup |
| 21:47.25 | Guillotine | thats my idea pretty much |
| 21:47.39 | Guillotine | in pvp, if you're not casting, you're dead pretty much |
| 21:47.46 | krka | could check if you have the viper sting debuff on you |
| 21:47.48 | Cairenn | Tem: I knew you were going to be pissed |
| 21:47.49 | Maldivia | so yeah, parsing UNIT_MANA might be the way |
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| 21:48.00 | Cairenn | I was surprised that you had been as calm about it all as you were |
| 21:48.13 | Cairenn | it was that one that I read and freaked about |
| 21:48.13 | Maldivia | krka: well, what if a priest casts mana drain on you, no debuff, but you still loose mana |
| 21:48.19 | Maldivia | krka: so many variables :) |
| 21:48.23 | krka | yeah |
| 21:48.33 | Tem | I can't believe he tried to make it look like I only created the addon pages on CG to advertise another site |
| 21:48.33 | krka | ask for an api function :P |
| 21:48.49 | krka | oh, you didn't? |
| 21:48.52 | Tem | it would have taken him 10 fucking seconds to see that wasn't the case |
| 21:49.19 | Tem | krka: please see my edited post |
| 21:49.25 | Tem | krka: http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=23213#post23213 |
| 21:50.14 | krka | good post! |
| 21:50.23 | Cairenn | Yeah, well, you saw my response to this statement: "He wanted the addon here, without the files, to generate traffic for WoWInterface." |
| 21:50.23 | krka | btw, why does everyone have different nicks everywhere? |
| 21:50.29 | krka | i can never keep track |
| 21:50.47 | krka | Cairenn has the same everywhere though, yay! |
| 21:51.13 | Tem | krka: I only have "Tem" because the blizzard forums wouldn't let me post with my main |
| 21:51.36 | Cairenn | krka: he's lying to you, cause he's a tard |
| 21:51.41 | Maldivia | I have Maldivia every where, except blizzard forums, because I can't post with that char there :) |
| 21:51.47 | krka | so now we're pissed at curse for bad attitude and ui.worldofwar for faking download count |
| 21:51.58 | tard | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.02 | tard | it's registered |
| 21:52.22 | Cairenn | krka: and both for uploading mods without authors' knowledge, let alone consent |
| 21:52.25 | tardmrr | hmm |
| 21:52.33 | tardmrr | anyone know how to unlink a nick? |
| 21:52.42 | hyperChipmunk | drop it? |
| 21:52.45 | Maldivia | unlink :) |
| 21:52.45 | krka | which is also illegal, for most addons |
| 21:53.00 | Maldivia | but remember to unlink from the right nick, otherwise you loose the entire chain :) |
| 21:53.13 | krka | lose or loose? |
| 21:53.20 | krka | both kinda make sense,sorta |
| 21:53.31 | Cairenn | krka: well, CG and ui.wow both did it to start up, then CG said they stopped, but I know ui.wow still does |
| 21:54.01 | Cairenn | Tem: /msg nickserv unlink <main name> <main pw> |
| 21:54.02 | Tem | is there a way to list all nicks linked to a nick? |
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| 21:54.14 | Cairenn | "info" might |
| 21:54.15 | Tem | thanks Cairenn |
| 21:54.21 | Guillotine | so why does the channel now require you to be registered to join? |
| 21:54.26 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.29 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.33 | Cairenn | Guillotine: grrrrrrr, that's stil on? |
| 21:54.45 | Guillotine | yup. pretty annoying since I get d/c so much :/ |
| 21:54.48 | Cairenn | I have turned that off so many times now ... |
| 21:54.53 | Tem | yeah, I found it |
| 21:54.56 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-R] by Cairenn |
| 21:55.02 | Maldivia | Yes it does, atleast in the oroginal service code, don't know how mich freenet have modified it :) |
| 21:55.06 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-r] by Cairenn |
| 21:55.06 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+r] by ChanServ |
| 21:55.12 | Guillotine | any chance kael or bel don't know its supposed to be off and are turning it on thinking its supposed to be on? |
| 21:55.22 | zenzelezz | no way to tell ChanServ you want it off? |
| 21:55.53 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-R] by Cairenn |
| 21:56.08 | Cairenn | okay, just did that through Chanserv that time, lets see if it holds |
| 21:56.09 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.26 | tardmrr | so, why is chanserv in here anyway? |
| 21:56.28 | Maldivia | and include the channel name :) |
| 21:56.32 | krka | oh... i just figured you wanted to keep me out :P |
| 21:56.34 | Cairenn | channel protection |
| 21:56.40 | Guillotine | wow. I was just about to ask cair why my addon wasn't approved yet. then I realized I never actually uploaded it... |
| 21:56.40 | krka | but i was too clever for you! |
| 21:56.48 | krka | lol |
| 21:56.53 | tardmrr | Guillotine: lol |
| 21:56.55 | Cairenn | Guillotine: lol |
| 21:57.11 | krka | i did something similar |
| 21:57.19 | krka | i asked for it to be approved, but it already was |
| 21:57.24 | krka | i just didn't see it |
| 21:57.29 | Guillotine | I'm out of it. yesterday in WSG, I got all the way to my base's boots only to discover I missed picking up the flag... |
| 21:57.45 | Guillotine | 'guil, you do realize you don't have the flag, right?' |
| 21:57.47 | tardmrr | and god damn the CG admins can't type |
| 21:57.48 | hyperChipmunk | Guillotine: see, that's where cg has the advantage on wowi |
| 21:57.55 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-R] by ChanServ |
| 21:58.00 | tardmrr | "Enought said" |
| 21:58.01 | Guillotine | I don't even have to upload it to CG and its there! |
| 21:58.04 | Guillotine | :P |
| 21:58.05 | tardmrr | "whinging" |
| 21:58.07 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
| 21:58.11 | Cairenn | ummm |
| 21:58.15 | krka | whinging is a word |
| 21:58.16 | hyperChipmunk | yea, what's with the enought and the whinging? |
| 21:58.23 | Guillotine | j/k. I doubt cg has a trojan on my computer to pick up my addons... |
| 21:58.26 | Guillotine | that would be pretty funny though |
| 21:58.32 | Cairenn | no bagging on someone because of difference in langauge |
| 21:58.42 | Cairenn | and yes, whinging is most assuredly a word |
| 21:58.48 | hyperChipmunk | how is whinging a word? |
| 21:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | ~define whinging |
| 21:59.06 | Cairenn | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whinging |
| 21:59.08 | Guillotine | http://www.webster.com/dictionary/whinging |
| 21:59.08 | krka | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=whinge |
| 21:59.10 | krka | damn it! |
| 21:59.13 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:59.14 | krka | you're too fast for me |
| 21:59.16 | Guillotine | 2nd place! I get silver! |
| 21:59.22 | hyperChipmunk | purl is the loser |
| 21:59.27 | krka | i was second for me |
| 22:00.13 | Guillotine | slouken probably wouldn't add an event when the 5-second rule starts, would he? would make it much easier, but... |
| 22:00.28 | Cairenn | okay, I've got chanserv enforcing mode -R for the channel, lets see if that gets it to behave |
| 22:00.31 | Codayus | you know what they say....2nd place is the first loser. :-) |
| 22:00.33 | krka | he probably wouldn't |
| 22:00.36 | Cairenn | otherwise I'll go to one of the server admin |
| 22:00.38 | krka | since the default ui doesn't need it |
| 22:00.46 | hyperChipmunk | that's a stupid word |
| 22:00.49 | hyperChipmunk | it shouldn't be there |
| 22:00.57 | Guillotine | krka: default ui doesnt make dynamic frames either, but that's there |
| 22:00.59 | zenzelezz | 5-second rule? |
| 22:01.06 | hyperChipmunk | manaregen |
| 22:01.09 | krka | and blizzard probably thinks that info should be kept inside the players head |
| 22:01.09 | tardmrr | sorry, yes I forget that they don't natively speak english |
| 22:01.11 | Guillotine | you stop regenning mana for 5 seconds after the completion of a spell that costs mana |
| 22:01.16 | Maldivia | Cairenn: R, that's "you can join, but can't say a word until you've authed"-mode, right? |
| 22:01.22 | krka | that's no excuse, imo |
| 22:01.25 | tardmrr | but still. Those look like typos not language barrier stuff |
| 22:01.32 | krka | i don't speak english natively either but i still _try_ to get it right |
| 22:01.44 | Cairenn | Maldivia: that's what I understood it to be, but for some reason it wasn't even allowing people to join until they were auth'd |
| 22:01.54 | Guillotine | right |
| 22:01.58 | Maldivia | Cairenn: that's r - lower case |
| 22:02.00 | Kalroth | krka: saem heer, myh englisk is verry gud two |
| 22:02.08 | Guillotine | "[INFO]This channel requires that you have registered and identified yourself with the network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). Please see the documentation of this network's nickname registration services that should be found in the MOTD (/motd to display it)." |
| 22:02.11 | krka | :P |
| 22:02.13 | Cairenn | no, r lower case is "registered" as in the channel, not the user |
| 22:02.25 | hyperChipmunk | my rule in life now is that anyone that says the word whinging to me should be thrown into a chasm |
| 22:02.27 | Maldivia | +r (block unidentified) This mode prevents users who are not identified with NickServ from joining the channel. Users will receive a server notice explaining this if they try to join. |
| 22:02.41 | Maldivia | From: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 22:02.56 | Kalroth | hyperChipmunk: I like 'whould' better! |
| 22:03.09 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-r] by ChanServ |
| 22:03.12 | tardmrr | hey Cairenn, did you notice that they moved the thread? |
| 22:03.24 | Cairenn | tardmrr: no, I hadn't, where did they move it? |
| 22:03.30 | tardmrr | Off-Topic |
| 22:03.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:03.40 | tardmrr | lol indeed |
| 22:04.09 | Maldivia | The tale of how hot topic became off topic... |
| 22:04.17 | Cairenn | tardmrr: I don't *really* care what they do or don't do, to be honest, unless and until I hear about them taking advantage of authors &/or using our DB without our permission |
| 22:04.32 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine_ (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 22:04.36 | Cairenn | what they do with their own site is their own business |
| 22:04.45 | Cairenn | and not my place to tell them how to run their site |
| 22:05.02 | Kirkburn | Wait, what was that earlier about ui.wow faking dl count? |
| 22:05.10 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: known fact |
| 22:05.15 | Kirkburn | Oh btw, I just turned 21 :P |
| 22:05.18 | Guillotine_ | testing |
| 22:05.22 | Guillotine_ | can anybody see this? |
| 22:05.25 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: grats :) |
| 22:05.27 | Cairenn | yup |
| 22:05.27 | Cide | nope, Guillotine_ |
| 22:05.33 | Cide | Kirkburn: congratulations! |
| 22:05.35 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: happy birthday |
| 22:05.40 | Kirkburn | :D Thanks!! |
| 22:05.43 | Guillotine | interesting. it still gives the same message, but it doesn't enforce it |
| 22:05.47 | Guillotine | you can still talk while not registered |
| 22:05.50 | Tem | ui.wow's download counts are roughly 2x what they should be |
| 22:05.54 | Cairenn | I turned it off :p |
| 22:06.03 | JoshBorke | happy birthday Kirkburn! |
| 22:06.05 | Cairenn | Tem: I've heard as high as 8x |
| 22:06.07 | Guillotine | cair: it still gives the error message that you have to be registered to join though |
| 22:06.09 | Tem | Cairenn: wow |
| 22:06.17 | Cairenn | please note my caveat in there |
| 22:06.23 | Tem | oh wow |
| 22:06.25 | Cairenn | I've *heard* ... I have no proof |
| 22:06.27 | Tem | I just tested |
| 22:06.30 | Tem | 4x |
| 22:06.36 | Cide | are you sure? |
| 22:06.44 | Kirkburn | Uh, how? |
| 22:06.54 | Cide | I tested myself like 6 months ago, seemed to only register 1:1 |
| 22:06.59 | Tem | lemme find another addon that is less likely to have someone else download at the same time |
| 22:06.59 | Cairenn | Guillotine: try now, I just finished talking to chanserv |
| 22:07.17 | Guillotine | cairenn: I didn't try it. I just got d/c :/ I'll just wait until I'm d/c again. should be soon |
| 22:07.23 | Cairenn | heh, okay |
| 22:07.53 | Kirkburn | My test just showed 1:1 |
| 22:08.15 | Kirkburn | (using the first addon on the list) |
| 22:08.39 | krka | my experiments showed about 2x |
| 22:09.09 | krka | as in, i refreshed a lot, noticed no changes, downloaded once, refreshed a lot, download count went up by 2 |
| 22:09.10 | Cairenn | ah hah! I think I may have found what chanserv was being pissy about, should hopefully be fixed now |
| 22:09.33 | Kirkburn | Then how do explain my 1:1? :) |
| 22:09.33 | krka | maybe it depends on number of downloads already |
| 22:09.39 | Cairenn | although, I have to admit, it's been rather nice not having a bunch of random n00bs showing up in the channel |
| 22:09.39 | Cide | easy to check ;) |
| 22:09.48 | Cide | find if there's a mod with an odd download count! |
| 22:09.48 | Kirkburn | lol, you don't think that's getting a bit, er, conspiratorial? |
| 22:10.08 | krka | i think it's more sophisticated than that |
| 22:10.18 | Cide | yeah, I think so too :) |
| 22:10.24 | krka | probably increases with random(1, 10) or something |
| 22:10.27 | Cide | if there is such a thing at all |
| 22:10.30 | Tem | ok, it seems to vary |
| 22:10.35 | Tem | 1:1 |
| 22:10.39 | Tem | up to 1:4 |
| 22:10.39 | krka | or increases with ceil(count / 1000) |
| 22:10.47 | Iriel | YOu aren't the only users DL'ing |
| 22:10.48 | krka | or whatever |
| 22:10.49 | Iriel | Are you? |
| 22:10.52 | Guillotine | lol. yay conspiracy theories! |
| 22:10.55 | Kirkburn | What Iriel said |
| 22:10.57 | Iriel | Or did you upload a test addon nobody would use? |
| 22:10.58 | krka | Iriel, in my test i am pretty sure i was |
| 22:11.03 | Tem | me too |
| 22:11.05 | wereHamster | Did I miss something or has C'thun already been killed? |
| 22:11.11 | Cide | you missed something |
| 22:11.11 | krka | since i refreshed a lot without any downloads |
| 22:11.17 | Kalroth | wereHamster: he got killed today |
| 22:11.20 | krka | then when i downloaded, someone else did to? |
| 22:11.25 | krka | seems extremely unlikely |
| 22:11.27 | wereHamster | oh.. |
| 22:11.29 | Cide | http://imagelink.org/image/3684.jpg |
| 22:11.29 | Cide | Loot: http://imagelink.org/image/3685.jpg |
| 22:11.52 | Cide | loot screenshot being the quest rewards from Eye of C'thun |
| 22:11.56 | Maldivia | http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6462/cthunlewt7ev.jpg :) |
| 22:12.05 | Cide | yeah yeah. |
| 22:12.14 | Kirkburn | To be quite honest, going by the bandwidth costs Rushster reports, the download counter does not surprise me in the slightest |
| 22:12.15 | Cide | I keep forgetting to upload thta one |
| 22:12.16 | Kalroth | you weren't even there, Cide! |
| 22:12.26 | Cide | in the raid? :) |
| 22:12.34 | Kirkburn | (a patch day costs him upwards of £1000) |
| 22:12.39 | Kalroth | Yeah, they're using CTRA, you should have been there |
| 22:12.45 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: ouch |
| 22:12.49 | Cide | I should've gotten a special invite, clearly |
| 22:12.58 | krka | ring of fallen god = mage loot |
| 22:13.11 | Cide | though I play in the US, fortunately |
| 22:13.14 | Kalroth | Cide: also that necklace is a good priesy neck! |
| 22:13.18 | Kalroth | priest* |
| 22:13.22 | Kalroth | you what? |
| 22:13.22 | Cide | best in the game (naturally) :) |
| 22:13.23 | Cairenn | again, I don't really care what ui.wow.net does with their own site (see previous comments about CG) |
| 22:13.32 | Cide | I play on US servers |
| 22:13.36 | Kalroth | oh |
| 22:13.50 | Kalroth | somehow I had gotten the idea that you were european |
| 22:14.01 | krka | svenskar FTW! |
| 22:14.01 | Cide | I'm swedish |
| 22:14.13 | Cide | I do live in sweden, too :) |
| 22:14.13 | Iriel | Nice fish, i think that got said earlier |
| 22:14.15 | wereHamster | ... and we are still waiting for the first alliance kill :) |
| 22:14.19 | Kalroth | ah, yeah it was from your felia hostname :) |
| 22:15.00 | Kalroth | wereHamster: US is really p*ssed though :) They had to clear all the way up to C'Thun to begin attempts |
| 22:15.03 | Cide | but, I can't say I regret playing in the US :) |
| 22:15.19 | Kalroth | while Nihil had a clean instance all the way up to C'Thun |
| 22:15.26 | Kalroth | (except for trashy trash) |
| 22:15.27 | Cide | yep |
| 22:15.45 | wereHamster | Kalroth, the whole US? |
| 22:15.50 | Kirkburn | What did the hotfix do? |
| 22:15.52 | Cide | well, if someone kills them on US tonight or tomorrow, they're pretty much equal |
| 22:16.00 | Kalroth | wereHamster: every single human in the united states! |
| 22:16.04 | Kirkburn | No, EU still won :P |
| 22:16.10 | Kalroth | wereHamster: even those that doesn't play WoW |
| 22:16.19 | Cide | who cares in the long run :) |
| 22:16.28 | wereHamster | ah.. yeah.. EU hast first world kill :) |
| 22:16.35 | JoshBorke | i'm more shocked at how quickly it happened |
| 22:16.40 | Kalroth | quickly? |
| 22:16.43 | Cide | but yes; US got (potentially) screwed by attendance |
| 22:16.50 | Cide | s/attendance/maintenance/ |
| 22:16.54 | Kalroth | dude, the guild(s) has been working on C'Thun for over 2 months now |
| 22:16.56 | JoshBorke | from the time that the changes were made |
| 22:17.05 | JoshBorke | not since C'thun has been around :-D |
| 22:17.10 | Kalroth | that's 8 weeks of attempts, they got phase 1 down to farm status |
| 22:17.12 | Kalroth | yup |
| 22:17.15 | Cide | a *lot* of guilds have been working on them |
| 22:17.22 | Cide | err, it, I guess |
| 22:17.28 | Kalroth | C'Thun phase 1 was down early feburary, JoshBorke |
| 22:17.51 | Kalroth | it's late april now :) |
| 22:18.08 | Cide | he meant from the hotfix today |
| 22:18.10 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: the hotfix was not to spawn adds while C'Thun was weak |
| 22:18.12 | Kalroth | oh |
| 22:18.31 | Cide | seeing as it was applied today, nihilum got the kill the same day |
| 22:18.34 | Kalroth | well a clean instance, 20 mins of trash and then phase 1 which takes what? 10 mins or so |
| 22:18.37 | Kalroth | yup |
| 22:18.49 | Kalroth | well it was officially applied today |
| 22:18.58 | Kalroth | could have been applied earlier :) |
| 22:19.07 | Cide | doubt it ;) |
| 22:19.33 | Kalroth | "We fixed a bug which was causing the Giant Eye Tentacles to still spawn during C'Thun's weakened state in the second phase of the encounter. It's not intended for anything to be spawning during his weakened state." |
| 22:19.52 | Kalroth | Only took them since October 2005 to April 2006 to figure that one out ;p |
| 22:20.33 | Maldivia | Kalroth: let me rephase, took them till now to get to a state where 1.11 is close, so new contents will be available :) |
| 22:21.10 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 22:21.13 | Kalroth | Yeah, some people like conspiracies :) |
| 22:21.36 | Cide | well, ascent was right |
| 22:21.53 | Cide | "C'Thun will go down when Blizzard nerfs him" |
| 22:22.22 | Kirkburn | I want to know what actually *happens* when he dies |
| 22:22.22 | Kalroth | only took 3 nerfs, Cide :) |
| 22:22.22 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: he falls over |
| 22:22.22 | hyperChipmunk | elf babes and beer |
| 22:22.23 | Cide | two, actually |
| 22:22.23 | Kalroth | normal death animation |
| 22:22.30 | Cide | one of which was a buff :) |
| 22:22.35 | zenzelezz | EU-Silvermoon seems to have gone mad |
| 22:22.36 | Kalroth | Cide: they fixed and renerfed the first nerf :) |
| 22:22.37 | Cairenn | evening cladhaire |
| 22:22.57 | Cide | the significant thing in the first nerf wasn't even applied |
| 22:23.26 | Kirkburn | Of course you could say 1.9.1, 1.9.2, 1.9.3, 1.9.4, 1.10, 1.10.1 and numerous hotfixes nerfed him |
| 22:23.38 | Kirkburn | Rather a lot of opportunities I might say ... |
| 22:24.21 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: The fixes are serverside, not clientside .. |
| 22:24.26 | Maldivia | All you haveto do i MC and DI him... ehh, ups, wrong boss :) |
| 22:24.30 | Kirkburn | Kalroth, apart from falling over ... anything? |
| 22:24.32 | Kalroth | Which only makes it worse, imo |
| 22:24.48 | Kirkburn | Kalroth, the patches affect the players too |
| 22:24.51 | Maldivia | probably some happy dragons |
| 22:24.56 | Kirkburn | And since they're attacking C'thun ... |
| 22:25.12 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: Sure, but C'Thun could have been fixed anytime though, it didn't require a clientpatch to do so |
| 22:25.31 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, I just meant that it just depends how you define nerf |
| 22:25.33 | Kalroth | it required a bunch of guilds to beta test him though |
| 22:25.47 | Kalroth | well nerf/fix is the same regarding C'Thun :P |
| 22:25.56 | Maldivia | Kalroth: but it still requires players to attempt him, to notice that there's something wrong, and then find what's actually wrtong, and then fix it |
| 22:26.09 | cladhaire | evening Cairenn |
| 22:26.20 | Kalroth | Maldivia: Internal testing team? Q&A? Those are common things to do in any serious business. :) |
| 22:26.32 | Kirkburn | (my point was that every patch effectively nerfs him as player bugs are fixed, potentially making the encounter easier) |
| 22:26.43 | Maldivia | Kalroth: why have internal testing and Q&A, when you have PTR and 5 million players? : ) |
| 22:26.54 | Maldivia | Kalroth: but yeah, I know :) |
| 22:26.55 | Kirkburn | Or, as it the case, have both |
| 22:27.01 | Kalroth | Maldivia: Well that's one way to look at it, Blizzards way apparently :) |
| 22:27.04 | Kirkburn | s/it/is/ |
| 22:27.34 | Kirkburn | Can we try not to effectively insult others on the channel? :) |
| 22:27.58 | Kalroth | mmm, so we can do uneffictive insults? :P |
| 22:27.59 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: but we're so good at it ! :) |
| 22:28.15 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 22:28.22 | Kalroth | s/uneffictive/uneffective/ |
| 22:28.38 | Iriel | I think you mean ineffective |
| 22:28.50 | AnduinLothar | what's the latest maplibrary vers? |
| 22:28.52 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: see! even Iriel is after me. |
| 22:29.05 | Kalroth | .. |
| 22:29.12 | Kalroth | Cairenn: They're being mean! |
| 22:29.31 | Cairenn | Kalroth: and your point would be ... ? |
| 22:29.49 | Kirkburn | That's he's a big baby? |
| 22:29.53 | Maldivia | Kalroth: Hab SoSlI' Quch! |
| 22:29.53 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 22:30.04 | Kalroth | krka: what's the latest version of maplibrary :) |
| 22:30.08 | Kalroth | aww! |
| 22:30.26 | Kirkburn | Careful, you might catch something |
| 22:30.48 | Kalroth | I did, she's still trying to get rid of me |
| 22:32.16 | Kirkburn | jeepers, I used google: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1305 |
| 22:32.17 | AnduinLothar | better yet, where's the most updated MapLibrary located |
| 22:32.36 | Maldivia | hmm... the ears of a bunny always tastes good, but for some reason, the feet always makes me nausea |
| 22:32.40 | AnduinLothar | and why isn't krka on wowi |
| 22:32.55 | JoshBorke | he is |
| 22:33.17 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, perhaps trying to cook them first might help? |
| 22:33.38 | ckknight | anyone know about firing errors? |
| 22:33.43 | ckknight | I want my library's assert to fire an error seemingly in the place that called it from outside the library |
| 22:33.48 | ckknight | currently, if I have an assert, it'll show the error line in the library itself |
| 22:34.23 | Kalroth | g'night lads! |
| 22:35.13 | AnduinLothar | hmm, there was some reason i never upgraded gatherer... wonder what it was.. |
| 22:36.33 | AnduinLothar | but i have no idea what it was.. |
| 22:36.53 | Tem | krka: you around? |
| 22:37.23 | krka | yeah |
| 22:37.26 | Tem | undo |
| 22:37.30 | Tem | get to work |
| 22:37.34 | JoshBorke | lol tem |
| 22:37.48 | Tem | now that I think about it, it wouldn't be that bad |
| 22:37.53 | AnduinLothar | and i thought i was a slavedriver |
| 22:37.58 | krka | latest maplibrary is on curse |
| 22:38.06 | AnduinLothar | thx krka, found it |
| 22:38.21 | AnduinLothar | put it on wowi |
| 22:38.46 | Kirkburn | do it! |
| 22:38.49 | krka | sure, for my next update |
| 22:38.52 | Tem | regardless, krka, I can't wait until I get home from work so that I can play with FAIAP |
| 22:38.54 | krka | nothing has changed recently |
| 22:38.58 | Tem | looks very cool |
| 22:39.01 | JoshBorke | anyone know how i can listen in on the CTRA channel? |
| 22:39.08 | Tem | yeah |
| 22:39.11 | AnduinLothar | make it visible |
| 22:39.12 | krka | the colouring still needs some loving |
| 22:39.19 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.22 | Tem | er |
| 22:39.23 | krka | anyone feel free to edit the default color table |
| 22:39.27 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.35 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.40 | krka | (bottom of indent.lua) |
| 22:40.25 | AnduinLothar | is there an addon that simply increases inspect range? |
| 22:41.05 | AnduinLothar | maybe i'll just go fully loaded and get superinspect |
| 22:41.27 | Maldivia | anduin, just use /inspect :) |
| 22:41.27 | krka | increases inspect range? |
| 22:41.29 | krka | is that possible? |
| 22:41.43 | Maldivia | you should be able to inspect within visual range then |
| 22:42.08 | AnduinLothar | that works, i spose all you have to do is nuke the limit that makes the unit menu grey it out |
| 22:42.15 | AnduinLothar | like 1 hook |
| 22:42.23 | krka | isn't the inspect range server side? |
| 22:42.40 | krka | AnduinLothar, what do you need maplibrary for btw? |
| 22:42.41 | Maldivia | AnduinLothar: not even a hook, just a simple change in the menu-table :) |
| 22:42.41 | AnduinLothar | ya, i mean make it not grey out if they're 5 feet from you |
| 22:42.51 | krka | i have found i have very little use for maplibrary these days |
| 22:43.03 | AnduinLothar | mmm, couple of my addons use it |
| 22:43.15 | AnduinLothar | well, the addons i use |
| 22:44.44 | Iriel | krka: It's CheckInteractDistance |
| 22:44.57 | AnduinLothar | buffbot for one |
| 22:45.00 | Gryphen | goodinspect does that simply |
| 22:45.08 | Gryphen | its the only thing it does afaik |
| 22:45.23 | AnduinLothar | ya, i know. have it, but i think it has excess code |
| 22:45.37 | AnduinLothar | w/e gonna give super inspect a spin |
| 22:46.05 | AnduinLothar | I'm finally getting around to updating the rest of my addons to 1.10 |
| 22:46.47 | AnduinLothar | debating whether i want to update titan, use fubar or neither |
| 22:47.09 | Kirkburn | Hehehe: http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=8026325 |
| 22:47.31 | Guillotine | so far, I've liked fubar, but it was really annoying when the name was changed for no reason |
| 22:48.35 | AnduinLothar | might try out LuaSlinger and scrap LuaPad... wider page looks nice |
| 22:48.43 | Tem | IMO, FuBar is far superior |
| 22:48.57 | AnduinLothar | is there an execute button on LuaSlinger or is it just a keybinding? |
| 22:48.58 | Maldivia | I'm missing an option to scale fubar, and if I try to do it manually, with SetScale, it works fine, except the bar is specified with width, instead of SetPoint'ed to left and right :) |
| 22:49.18 | Kirkburn | Omgz Microsoft is gonna make people get legal copies of Windows! Omgz omgz, the world will implode. <-- current reactions I'm noticing on some 'news' websites |
| 22:50.07 | Kirkburn | (you will soon start getting popups telling you your version of windows isn't legal if it isn't, well, legal) |
| 22:50.24 | AnduinLothar | is luasligner anywhere other than ui.worldofwar.net? |
| 22:51.08 | AnduinLothar | damn... i don't even like lookign at that site.. |
| 22:51.44 | AnduinLothar | *%#^%^$ numbered downloads need to die |
| 22:52.20 | AnduinLothar | krka, link to your toy |
| 22:52.22 | Tem | Maldivia: use FontSizeFu |
| 22:52.29 | Tem | I think that's the one |
| 22:53.22 | krka | yes luaslinger has an execute |
| 22:53.42 | krka | i like the look of tinypad more, but luaslinger handles scrolling and wide lines better |
| 22:53.57 | krka | but vertical offsets go crazy after a while |
| 22:54.06 | krka | FAIAP: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4895 |
| 22:54.11 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 22:55.24 | AnduinLothar | always fun playing with like 20 new mods |
| 22:57.23 | AnduinLothar | oo, that's cool. super inspect put a ring around the items that's the quality color |
| 22:58.31 | AnduinLothar | oo, and bonus tally. i like |
| 22:58.41 | JoshBorke | *cry* wowwiki broke :-( |
| 22:58.56 | Gryphen | what broke? |
| 22:58.57 | krka | broke? :/ |
| 22:59.08 | zenzelezz | loads fine for me |
| 22:59.10 | JoshBorke | .:18·28·44:. ( AnduinLothar ) what's the latest maplibrary ver |
| 22:59.11 | JoshBorke | er |
| 22:59.21 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API gives me an erro |
| 22:59.25 | JoshBorke | about the SQL database |
| 22:59.37 | Gryphen | not seeing that |
| 22:59.56 | Iriel | Me neither |
| 23:00.15 | JoshBorke | http://wow.pastebin.com/681977 is the full error |
| 23:00.31 | AnduinLothar | oo, and repair tally for yourself... SuperInspeact replaces like 4 addons |
| 23:00.57 | AnduinLothar | just needs an estimated cost to repair.. |
| 23:01.15 | AnduinLothar | even lists set bonuses, wow |
| 23:01.22 | JoshBorke | *sigh* it's not giving me the page :-( can someone link me the SendChatChannel page? |
| 23:01.31 | Adrine | SendChatMessage? |
| 23:01.39 | JoshBorke | er, yea, that |
| 23:01.49 | Adrine | SendChatMessage(message, channel, language, target) |
| 23:02.05 | Adrine | SendChatMessage("Hi", "WHISPER", nil, "JoshBorke"); |
| 23:02.11 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 23:02.11 | JoshBorke | what's the format for target? when sending to a channel? |
| 23:02.19 | Adrine | The channel number, IIRC |
| 23:02.25 | Adrine | Though I may have that backwards |
| 23:02.27 | Iriel | Channel NUMBER |
| 23:02.30 | Adrine | "the channel or player recieving the message. It might be obvious to some, but I had to pass a number when sending to a channel. You can obtain it using GetChannelName." |
| 23:02.34 | Iriel | YDRC 8-) |
| 23:02.48 | JoshBorke | thanks iriel |
| 23:03.01 | AnduinLothar | um |
| 23:03.02 | Adrine | At first I interpreted that as "You don't remember crap", then realized I was right and corrected it to "You do remember correctly." |
| 23:03.30 | AnduinLothar | nm |
| 23:03.37 | krka | Iriel, thanks again for telling me not to tamper with RunScript, my workaround ended up being much cleaner |
| 23:05.42 | Iriel | Adrine : You're one of those 'glass half empty' people aren't you? 8-) |
| 23:05.53 | JoshBorke | *cry* why don't things work when you want them to :-( |
| 23:06.10 | Tain | Half-empty, half-full, the real question is why is my refil taking so long? |
| 23:07.05 | zenzelezz | I find the half-empty half-full thing confusing... they're both right |
| 23:07.22 | Adrine | zenzelezz: It's about your perception of things. |
| 23:07.34 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 23:07.38 | Adrine | They are both right, but some people might see the negative and say "Oh, it's half empty" |
| 23:07.50 | Tain | It's never about what *is*, it's about how you choose to view what is. |
| 23:07.52 | Adrine | Whereas other people might see the positive and say "hey, I've got half of it left" |
| 23:08.00 | zenzelezz | I understand the metaphor, I just don't think it's a very good expression |
| 23:08.37 | Tain | Most metaphors aren't actually very good expressions. |
| 23:09.21 | Tain | That isn't really the point though. You've already demonstrated your half-empty view by perceiving the methaphor itself in a bad light. |
| 23:10.25 | JoshBorke | SendChatMessage(message,"CHANNEL",nil,GetChannelName(CT_RA_Channel)); |
| 23:10.43 | JoshBorke | that didn't get sent, even though all variables existed and contained valid information |
| 23:11.17 | Tain | Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just interesting to see exactly what the expression is meant to show at somewhat of a metadata level of the expression itself. It amuses. |
| 23:23.06 | AnduinLothar | oi... turning up terrain distance is costly |
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| 23:29.14 | AnduinLothar | thottbot down again? |
| 23:30.02 | Miravlix | Thottbot isn't willing to communicate with me. |
| 23:30.31 | Adrine | Thott is being mean. |
| 23:33.14 | Adrine | I really need to finish off the sac DPS/additional armor/wands/ranged stuff on my item calculator. |
| 23:33.24 | Adrine | Buuuuuut I don't have the head for formula derivation. |
| 23:38.07 | Adrine | It's neat seeing the stuff people come up with though. |
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| 23:57.47 | AnduinLothar | thott fixed thottbot |
| 23:58.15 | Iriel | fixed as in "removed all the crap data" ? |
| 23:58.27 | Adrine | I'm going to guess fixed as in "server answers now" |
| 23:58.28 | Iriel | or just fixed as in "made it so that it serves up its corrupted DB as normal" ? |
| 23:58.56 | Adrine | Thottbot isn't a bad resource. Just don't expect it to be authoritative. |
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