| 00:00.33 | End | as far as the addon infrastructure is concerned...but, there is the same files in FrameXML that seem associated with signing as are in the Blizzard_ Addons |
| 00:01.34 | Esamynn | does the client even still read files from a FrameXML directory if one exists? I would have expected them to simply have the client not read from that directory |
| 00:02.02 | End | hmmm |
| 00:02.07 | Miravlix | Well, it doesn't since it renames the directory |
| 00:02.08 | End | I don't know |
| 00:02.20 | End | well, it might not be smart enough |
| 00:02.26 | Miravlix | But thats prolly just a failsafe in case there code has a security hole |
| 00:02.31 | End | it might blindly read from it if it exists |
| 00:02.57 | End | incidently, I just made the FrameXML dir readonly, and it couldn't seem to rename it this time |
| 00:03.24 | End | time to make a small change and see if it detects it :P |
| 00:05.13 | End | wasn't detected |
| 00:05.23 | End | looks like it doesn't actually read from there anymore |
| 00:06.39 | Cairenn | login servers down? |
| 00:06.48 | End | I'm on |
| 00:06.55 | End | anyway, brb |
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| 00:08.23 | End | (it just occured to me, it may just silently ignore if it thinks it is corrupt, which makes testing difficult) |
| 00:08.29 | End | (anyways, really brb) |
| 00:08.41 | Cairenn | waaaaah, lemme log in! |
| 00:09.25 | Kirkburn | Won't partition be angry? |
| 00:09.26 | zenzelezz | die, stupid old invalid file allocation table entry that refuses to be deleted! |
| 00:09.31 | Kirkburn | (just like Cairenn :P ) |
| 00:10.08 | zenzelezz | some remnant files that Visual Studio neglected to remove once, and that have invalid filenames... like "C." |
| 00:10.10 | Kirkburn | Yes, er, die you silly FAT entry |
| 00:10.38 | zenzelezz | well, getting rid of everything on the partition this time... the files don't do any harm, but sheesh do they annoy me o_O |
| 00:11.02 | Kirkburn | Completely sensible, yes |
| 00:11.36 | zenzelezz | pfft, I don't operate by such measly rules as sensibility |
| 00:12.33 | Kirkburn | Evidently :) |
| 00:13.44 | Cairenn | waaaaah, no fair! lets me log in to the test servers, which are down, but not to the live servers! waaaaah! |
| 00:14.57 | Kalroth | awww |
| 00:22.08 | Kirkburn | Heh, I just realised ... I told my girlfriend the Gnarls Barkley song would be a hit, she didn't believe me. It's only just got knocked off number 1 after 9 weeks :P |
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| 00:24.07 | grimman | What song now? |
| 00:24.41 | grimman | Does knowledge of said song depend on radio-listening? |
| 00:28.43 | Kirkburn | Probably ... Gnarls Barkley, Crazy |
| 00:28.55 | zenzelezz | bleh, that thing |
| 00:29.12 | Kirkburn | Bleh to you too :P |
| 00:29.22 | Kirkburn | Anyways, to bed! Night night all |
| 00:29.46 | Kirkburn | You can't parry my sleep patterns :( |
| 00:29.58 | zenzelezz | not that, your line before |
| 00:30.22 | Kirkburn | Sure, sure, now you say that |
| 00:30.37 | zenzelezz | not my fault you were a moment too soon to follow it up |
| 00:31.43 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, it's all my fault, I type too fast, the dogs thought I smelt like sausages, that house fell down because of me, yeah |
| 00:32.21 | Miravlix | 1 minute rule |
| 00:32.53 | Kirkburn | Not list'ning! |
| 00:33.18 | Miravlix | Anyone that stays "1 minute" after they said they would go is addicts. |
| 00:33.44 | Kirkburn | *whoompf* |
| 01:11.07 | ckknight | can someone mind testing http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/AutoAttack and tell me what they think/any bugs they run into |
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| 01:36.56 | Shouryuu|Joy | Rawr boo moo and whatnot |
| 01:37.09 | Cairenn | hi |
| 01:37.28 | Shouryuu|Joy | hehe, the joys of simplicity |
| 01:42.08 | ckknight | hey Shouryuu|Joy |
| 01:45.49 | End | you might want to change the usage string, ckknight |
| 01:45.59 | ckknight | usage string for what? |
| 01:46.04 | zenzelezz | why on earth can I never seem to find the same theme after re-installing Firefox? It's like it vanishes... and the ones I can still find just won't work with the new versions... |
| 01:46.12 | End | it calls itself /wife still (and still goes by that), but most people are going to think /autoattack |
| 01:46.20 | ckknight | err |
| 01:46.23 | ckknight | whoops |
| 01:46.26 | End | lol |
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| 01:47.40 | ckknight | okay, fixed |
| 01:51.27 | Cairenn | yummy! http://www.alienware.com/Intro_Pages/aw_nbsli.aspx?source=1925 |
| 01:53.17 | Shouryuu|Joy | And then I saw the price... |
| 01:53.30 | Cairenn | yeah, well |
| 01:53.35 | Shouryuu|Joy | $4,499.00, ouch :P |
| 01:58.40 | Dolby-wowi | Cairenn is getting two, one for each hand |
| 01:58.50 | Cairenn | rofl, I could wish |
| 01:58.55 | Shouryuu|Joy | lol |
| 01:59.18 | Dolby-wowi | cool graphic on the back of the lcd |
| 01:59.21 | Kaelten | SLI notebook? |
| 01:59.22 | Kaelten | damn |
| 01:59.22 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 01:59.52 | Dolby-wowi | wonder how hot that thing gets |
| 01:59.56 | Cairenn | yeah, sweet hey? |
| 01:59.58 | Dolby-wowi | don't think you want it on your lap |
| 02:00.46 | Kaelten | you may need a dryice vat to hold it over to keep it running |
| 02:02.18 | Kaelten | only 2k for the base setup? |
| 02:02.25 | Kaelten | thats not as bad as I was expecting |
| 02:02.44 | Dolby-wowi | You should get one Kaelten |
| 02:02.51 | Kaelten | heh |
| 02:03.00 | Kaelten | I would love too, maybe next time I get a huge commision check |
| 02:03.33 | Cairenn | those have got to be as good as, if not better than, my desktop system |
| 02:04.04 | Kaelten | well to put it where i'd like it it would cost an extra grand |
| 02:05.08 | Dolby-wowi | to put it where i'd like it would cost an extra 800k |
| 02:05.18 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 02:05.40 | Dolby-wowi | would go great on a nice yacht |
| 02:07.59 | ckknight | is an event fired when "target" gets a debuff? |
| 02:19.39 | Cairenn | hey Esamynn |
| 02:19.44 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep, sweet dreams |
| 02:23.12 | Esamynn | hey Cair :) |
| 02:24.02 | Esamynn | ckknight: yes, UNIT_AURA fires with arg1 set to "target" |
| 02:24.03 | Cairenn | how goes? |
| 02:24.17 | Esamynn | pretty good, although I'm tired today |
| 02:25.05 | Cairenn | I was too, lied down for a nap for an hour or so, slept for 5 |
| 02:27.05 | Cairenn | you know, I *still* can never figure out the proper usage of lay/lie |
| 02:27.29 | zenzelezz | when in doubt, lie |
| 02:27.31 | zenzelezz | at least I do |
| 02:27.34 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:28.06 | Cairenn | I think it should have been, I laid down for, but /shrug |
| 02:28.27 | zenzelezz | I think lay is more for "lay off", or "lay aside", but I'm not a native English speaker so I shouldn't be making assumptions :) |
| 02:28.51 | zenzelezz | took me a while to remember that the present form of "to lie" is "lying" |
| 02:28.52 | Tain | Odds are a non-native English speaker was taught better than a native English speaker. |
| 02:29.04 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 02:29.12 | Esamynn | sad, but true |
| 02:29.20 | zenzelezz | quiet, you're ruining my excuse if I'm wrong! |
| 02:30.51 | ckknight | lay is past, lie is present |
| 02:30.53 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 02:31.09 | zenzelezz | so they're actually the same word? |
| 02:31.17 | Tain | Lay is past, you lie so you can lay again in the future. |
| 02:31.21 | zenzelezz | or same verb, to be specific |
| 02:32.09 | Cairenn | I dunno, I just always mix them up |
| 02:32.19 | zenzelezz | hm, my dictionary shows two - "lay, laid, laid" and "lie, lay, lain" |
| 02:32.46 | Cairenn | lay/lie and principal/principle were the two that I always had problems with, most others I'm fine |
| 02:34.58 | zenzelezz | you lay your tools down, but you yourself lie down |
| 02:35.33 | zenzelezz | no more confusion |
| 02:35.56 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 02:36.08 | Cairenn | that's one solution :) |
| 02:36.50 | Esamynn | lol |
| 02:37.17 | Esamynn | Cide: you around? |
| 02:37.23 | Cide | yup |
| 02:37.49 | grimman | ... @ file transfer through Skype. |
| 02:37.59 | grimman | Simply ..., there are no words. |
| 02:38.21 | grimman | Started out at a dazzling 500 bytes / second and decreased as time went by. |
| 02:38.22 | Esamynn | so I was trying to hack CTRA so that it would display debuffs that aren't dispellable, but what I thought would work, isn't, I was wondering if you might be able to tell me whats wrong with what I did |
| 02:39.17 | Cide | I can try :) |
| 02:41.52 | Esamynn | after going though the code that deals with displaying them, I thought that simply Adding a new entry into the DebuffColors table would do it, so I tried adding this entry: http://wow.pastebin.com/758968 |
| 02:42.06 | Esamynn | but it didn't work and I'm completely stumped as to why |
| 02:43.27 | Cide | probably failed on the type check |
| 02:43.54 | Cide | if ... ( ( en and en == v[1] ) or ( de and de == v[1] ) or ( fr and fr == v[1] ) ) ... |
| 02:44.57 | Esamynn | but the empty string evaluates to true |
| 02:45.37 | Cide | did you update DebuffColors? |
| 02:46.07 | Cide | oh, you did.. right |
| 02:47.54 | Cide | might want the index to start at 1 |
| 02:48.00 | Cide | not sure if it matters or not honestly |
| 02:48.40 | Cide | and set id to 7 (the default ids are 1-6) |
| 02:49.17 | Cide | the code is really a mess, so you have to forgive me.. I'm working on recoding it all, but I also have to re-level a new character, which takes up my time right now :( |
| 02:49.29 | Esamynn | heh |
| 02:50.01 | Esamynn | I will agree with the "code is a mess" statement ;) |
| 02:50.32 | Cide | I'm going to blame it on my "noobiness" back when I originally coded it! |
| 02:50.32 | Kaelten|sleeping | gnight all |
| 02:50.39 | Cairenn | night Kaelten|sleeping |
| 02:50.40 | Esamynn | but you can't see any obvious flaws in what I did though? |
| 02:50.46 | Esamynn | night Kaelten |
| 02:50.47 | Cide | only what I pointed out |
| 02:50.53 | Cide | but again, I'm not sure if that will matter |
| 02:51.29 | Esamynn | ok, I'll do a more detailed analysis then, problem is, my chances to test it are generally in raid situations where I really should be paying attention ;) |
| 02:53.20 | Esamynn | since you are working on re-coding it, I have a couple of suggestions you might put on your list |
| 02:53.29 | Cide | oh? |
| 02:54.04 | Esamynn | well an actual option to display debuffs that have no type would be nice, for things like Ebonroc |
| 02:54.34 | Cide | oh, I will definitely add support to show any debuff |
| 02:54.49 | Cide | possibly through the user interface |
| 02:55.53 | Cide | I'm recoding it from scratch though, so it will be a while |
| 02:56.09 | Esamynn | the other thing is that for me personally, the range of settings that are stored in each set is too broad, and I've often wished that there was some way to exclude some options from being saved in individual sets |
| 02:56.51 | Cide | well, that would be hard to add in an intuitive manner |
| 02:57.20 | Esamynn | yah, that's my difficulty with the idea as well |
| 02:57.21 | Cide | I don't really like how option sets work though |
| 02:57.46 | Cide | but I know people find it useful, saving one option set per character isn't enough for a lot of people |
| 02:58.37 | Esamynn | heh, I've been changing the TOC to save EVERYTHING percharacter for months now ;) |
| 02:59.00 | Cide | well, option sets per character could work |
| 03:00.14 | Esamynn | you could break the options sets in to two types, one group of sets for positions only, and another for other settings |
| 03:01.15 | Cide | heh, saving window positions is another thing I don't like |
| 03:01.23 | Cide | the feature is nice, but implementing it is a mess |
| 03:02.03 | Esamynn | is it that bad? |
| 03:02.19 | Esamynn | I wouldn't have thought it would be that bad now that you can query the current anchor points |
| 03:02.28 | Cide | maybe not now |
| 03:02.32 | Cide | I haven't edited it in months :P |
| 03:02.35 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 03:02.56 | Cide | but yeah, that will help |
| 03:02.59 | Esamynn | you know, if you're looking for some help, I wouldn't be adverse to pitching in here and there |
| 03:04.18 | Cide | hehe, well, it could be nice for when I get the new version somewhat stable |
| 03:04.36 | Cide | so I'll remember that, thanks :) |
| 03:04.44 | Esamynn | you're welcome :) |
| 03:07.23 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/part_time_employment.jpg |
| 03:07.26 | grimman | *glee* |
| 03:20.26 | ckknight | anyone feel like testing my AutoAttack mod? |
| 03:23.20 | grimman | What's it for? |
| 03:27.12 | ckknight | mob hits you, you hit back automatically |
| 03:37.38 | grimman | I fail to see the point of such an addon tbh. |
| 03:38.21 | Tain | Have you ever played a melee class? |
| 03:38.28 | grimman | Of course. |
| 03:38.58 | Tain | Surprising to me then to not see the point of it. |
| 03:39.43 | Tain | Sure, I can see not feeling that you'd like to use it. But there's certainly a good purpose for it. |
| 03:41.51 | Cairenn | ckknight: how does it work, precisely? |
| 03:42.09 | grimman | If you say so... I can't see any situation where it'd be useful for me thoguh. |
| 03:42.11 | grimman | tough* |
| 03:42.16 | grimman | ... though* |
| 03:42.21 | ckknight | Cairenn, mr. mob comes up to you and is like "I wanna hit you. *bam*" |
| 03:42.33 | ckknight | so you're like "zomg, some dude just hit me, I wanna hit him back" |
| 03:42.54 | ckknight | but you're like "oh noes, my user didn't push the button, I am helpless" |
| 03:43.13 | ckknight | so instead of hitting back like a sane person, you stand there |
| 03:43.14 | ckknight | and die |
| 03:43.21 | ckknight | and everyone lives happily ever after |
| 03:43.28 | ckknight | except you |
| 03:43.32 | ckknight | cause you didn't get my mod |
| 03:43.33 | ckknight | failure. |
| 03:43.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:43.39 | ckknight | terrorists win |
| 03:43.42 | ckknight | and all that |
| 03:44.07 | Cairenn | okay, my concern is ... we all know how Blizz feels about the game playing itself without user intervention ... |
| 03:44.28 | Tain | DefendYourself has been doing it for... well as long as I can remember playing. |
| 03:44.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:44.41 | Cairenn | aye, but didn't it get shut down? |
| 03:44.43 | ckknight | no |
| 03:44.47 | Cairenn | no? |
| 03:44.49 | ckknight | no. |
| 03:44.58 | ckknight | a hardware event isn't required |
| 03:44.59 | Cairenn | hmmmm, thought it had, my mistake |
| 03:45.02 | Tain | No, never that I've seen. |
| 03:45.23 | Cairenn | I'm surprised they haven't locked it down |
| 03:46.02 | Cairenn | which is why I wasn't sure how you were working around it, but you aren't, because they haven't, so disregard me |
| 03:46.34 | Tain | Nah |
| 03:48.05 | ckknight | can I still make 60's on test |
| 03:48.09 | ckknight | I need a rogue to test this |
| 03:48.28 | Iriel | Do we think 1.11 will go live tuesday? |
| 03:48.33 | Cairenn | we do |
| 03:48.45 | Cairenn | although seeing that test was down for a fix today ... |
| 03:48.51 | Cairenn | we are now wondering |
| 03:49.18 | Cairenn | but we know that blizz really wants to put Necropolis out on 666 |
| 03:49.30 | ckknight | 666? |
| 03:49.31 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:49.34 | ckknight | fun stuff |
| 03:49.34 | Cairenn | yup |
| 03:49.40 | ckknight | silly religious people |
| 03:49.45 | ckknight | thinking it's more than just a number |
| 03:50.02 | Cairenn | hey, this is Blizz we are talking about here, they LOVE mocking stuff |
| 03:50.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:50.27 | ckknight | :-) |
| 03:50.40 | grimman | ckknight: My melee is a rogue... if you REALLY want me to I can test it. |
| 03:50.49 | ckknight | grimman, I need to test it myself |
| 03:50.53 | grimman | Aha. |
| 03:51.05 | grimman | No soup for you then. |
| 03:51.44 | ckknight | once I get it "working", I'll have you test |
| 03:51.48 | ckknight | it is worth having, personally |
| 03:51.56 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 03:52.52 | Cairenn | this is what I was talking about, the test servers being down: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8586305&p=1&tmp=1#post8586305 |
| 03:56.31 | grimman | Post #11 makes my blood boil. |
| 03:56.54 | AnduinLothar | so, anyone know exactly how item suffixes work? |
| 03:57.03 | grimman | Work? |
| 03:57.06 | Wobin | It's on the Wiki, isn't it AL? |
| 03:57.07 | AnduinLothar | like are they by item type |
| 03:57.31 | grimman | If you mean what I think you mean it refers to the stats. |
| 03:57.34 | AnduinLothar | so anytihgn i can get on a green legs can be on any green legs |
| 03:57.57 | grimman | I guess it's reasonable to assume so. |
| 03:58.07 | ckknight | moo! |
| 03:58.12 | AnduinLothar | or are they specific to quality or something else |
| 03:58.41 | AnduinLothar | so for example i can get Abyssal Plate Leggings of Restoration |
| 03:58.59 | AnduinLothar | can i get Templar Legplates of Restoration too? |
| 03:59.11 | AnduinLothar | abyssal are blue, templar are green |
| 03:59.15 | AnduinLothar | both plate |
| 03:59.54 | AnduinLothar | and does restoration always have the same value range for items of different qualities... or is it level based which suffixes they can have |
| 04:00.47 | AnduinLothar | cide prolly knows how it works since he had to code it for the profiles |
| 04:12.18 | AnduinLothar | looks like it's probably per item |
| 04:12.33 | AnduinLothar | each item has a variety of suffixes |
| 04:18.07 | Wobin | Oh PS Iriel? |
| 04:18.11 | Wobin | Happy Birthday =) |
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| 04:20.24 | Wobin | hehe |
| 04:21.04 | Wobin | "I'm a ninja looter, short and stout, grab all the loot and hearthstone out. All the peeps on Teamspeak scream and shout. I'm the mage with full Devout!" |
| 04:21.23 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:22.32 | Wobin | Much more original than the pally one =P |
| 04:27.39 | Esamynn | someone check my logic (i'm tired), to "properly" round a number I add 1 and use math.floor right? |
| 04:28.18 | Wobin | 0.5? |
| 04:28.19 | AnduinLothar | that just drops, not rounds |
| 04:29.06 | AnduinLothar | or just use tonumber(format("%.0f", yourNumber)) |
| 04:29.11 | Esamynn | math.floor(0.5+1) == 1 |
| 04:29.58 | Esamynn | oh no, it was add 0.5 right, thanks Wobin |
| 04:30.07 | Esamynn | jeez, i'm tired |
| 04:30.43 | Wobin | =) |
| 04:31.06 | Wobin | hehe: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/races/ |
| 04:31.11 | Wobin | mouseover the images in order =) |
| 04:31.59 | Cairenn | ROFL! |
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| 04:46.37 | Esamynn | night all |
| 04:46.47 | Cairenn | night Esamynn |
| 04:48.22 | Wobin | http://random-m.com/images/1254078816_1149175887448.gif |
| 04:48.25 | Wobin | for the gamer geeks |
| 04:52.45 | Wobin | and I love these LJ Wow usericons... http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/47116617/965076 |
| 04:54.21 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 05:51.49 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, think tiquela and mt dew would be any good.. |
| 05:58.33 | Wobin | mtdew is pretty damned sweet for a mixer.... |
| 06:07.03 | Wobin | http://eepybird.com/dcm1.html |
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| 06:09.58 | a-stray-cat | thats cool. |
| 06:10.05 | a-stray-cat | good use for diet coke, imo |
| 06:10.23 | AnduinLothar | ya\ |
| 06:10.50 | a-stray-cat | i wonder if it can be used to turn those into rockets! |
| 06:19.03 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:19.13 | ckknight | I think I'm done my AutoAttack mod for now |
| 06:19.21 | ckknight | anyone else mind testing it? |
| 06:19.33 | ckknight | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/AutoAttack/ |
| 06:22.24 | a-stray-cat | what's it do? |
| 06:23.15 | Cairenn | same as DefendYourself |
| 06:23.33 | Wobin | except it may work better |
| 06:23.53 | Cairenn | same idea as DefendYourself |
| 06:23.56 | Wobin | =) |
| 06:24.11 | a-stray-cat | i see. |
| 06:25.35 | AnduinLothar | what's wrong with defend yourself? |
| 06:30.29 | ckknight | if you want to use DefendYourself, that's fine by me |
| 06:30.36 | ckknight | either way, mine works the way I want it to |
| 06:30.45 | ckknight | also, mine has no need for a panic button |
| 06:30.54 | ckknight | because it is intelligent enough to not need one ;-) |
| 06:31.02 | ckknight | least I think so |
| 06:31.05 | ckknight | I could be wrong, though |
| 06:35.57 | AnduinLothar | i never use the panic button |
| 06:37.54 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:38.00 | ckknight | me either |
| 06:38.07 | ckknight | but it annoys me that it exists |
| 06:41.55 | ckknight | oh well |
| 06:42.04 | ckknight | if you want, check out the one i wrote |
| 06:42.05 | ckknight | I* |
| 06:42.24 | ckknight | done mostly through libraries and such |
| 06:48.36 | ckknight | it figures out the CC locals from BabbleLib-Spell and such |
| 06:50.32 | AnduinLothar | O.o? |
| 06:54.21 | ckknight | so it should work for English, German, and French at least |
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| 09:11.54 | Shouryuu|Joy | boo |
| 09:31.09 | Shouryuu|Joy | muhahaha |
| 09:41.23 | Wobin | http://www.askaninja.com/news/2006/05/30/ask-a-ninja-question-21-revolution-cubed |
| 09:41.33 | Wobin | oh this is brilliant =P |
| 09:46.17 | Shouryuu|Joy | killotine.. :P |
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| 10:19.45 | Shouryuu|Joy | Damn Forums are down |
| 10:32.25 | AnduinLothar | well that failed |
| 10:32.39 | AnduinLothar | tried kiting a servent up to if |
| 10:32.52 | AnduinLothar | you can't get them through the top of brm |
| 10:32.59 | kaso | why not? |
| 10:33.03 | AnduinLothar | they just wont go through the doors |
| 10:33.09 | Codayus | :-( |
| 10:33.09 | kaso | hmm |
| 10:33.17 | kaso | there must be some way cos people do do it |
| 10:33.31 | AnduinLothar | they start evading and you can still hit them if you walk back, but you can't hit them from the other side.. |
| 10:33.46 | AnduinLothar | nah, people do it to sw |
| 10:33.52 | AnduinLothar | i've never seen on ein if |
| 10:33.57 | kaso | ah |
| 10:34.01 | Codayus | Never heard of one being kited to IF. THat may be why... |
| 10:34.36 | AnduinLothar | so i was thinking maybe kite him over to westfall and try to swim him up to menathil and then down |
| 10:34.57 | Codayus | Ugh. Technically possible assuming they can swim though. |
| 10:35.05 | AnduinLothar | but i lost agro and he evaded before i got back to redridge. |
| 10:35.15 | AnduinLothar | and my parner left so there was no one to talk to |
| 10:35.24 | AnduinLothar | and it woulda taken a couple hours |
| 10:35.48 | AnduinLothar | took about 45 min to get him to brm, cause they walk slower than i do backwards |
| 10:36.46 | AnduinLothar | if i could get him to swim with me i would fraps it |
| 10:37.06 | AnduinLothar | maybe another time when i have 3 or 4 hours to kill |
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| 10:37.23 | AnduinLothar | anyway, night |
| 10:37.26 | Gngsk | I'm pretty sure someone on my server took one to IF |
| 10:37.47 | AnduinLothar | we bring all sorts of things to orgrimarr and sw |
| 10:37.55 | AnduinLothar | but nother makes it to if |
| 10:38.00 | AnduinLothar | nothing* |
| 10:38.14 | Codayus | If is just such an annoying hike. |
| 10:38.44 | Codayus | Wetlands -> Loch Modan -> Dun Morogh = boring as hell. SW is much easier to get to. |
| 10:39.10 | AnduinLothar | well it's mostly just for the feat |
| 10:39.24 | AnduinLothar | cause it's so long and hard to do |
| 10:39.39 | Codayus | Or Badlands, or whatever. Everything goes through Loch Modan, and then the whole boring run through Dun Morogh. That zone is too big. :-) |
| 10:39.47 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 10:39.59 | AnduinLothar | try it walking backwards kiting a servent.. |
| 10:40.08 | Codayus | No thanks. :-) |
| 10:41.14 | AnduinLothar | i'm really curious if they'd follow you in the watter |
| 10:41.33 | Codayus | Speaking of funny kiting things, I know of someone who kited Teramus into a raid killing a green dragon in Duskwood. |
| 10:41.39 | Codayus | Not hard, but pretty amusing. |
| 10:41.46 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 10:41.58 | Codayus | I just like the idea of Teramus coming up to help out his fellow dragon. |
| 10:42.22 | AnduinLothar | we kite teramus over to zg while we wait for everyone to get there |
| 10:42.34 | Codayus | (Apparently the person in question shouted "Hiya everybody! Look, I brought a friend!" Brings a smile to my face. |
| 10:42.58 | Codayus | Ouch. |
| 10:43.17 | Codayus | How long does that take anyhow? |
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| 10:43.28 | AnduinLothar | not too long |
| 10:43.34 | AnduinLothar | 20 min maybe |
| 10:44.03 | AnduinLothar | teramus fly's about as fast as you walk so you just have to run ahead of him |
| 10:44.27 | AnduinLothar | the servents are damn slow tho |
| 10:45.21 | Codayus | Hmm, 20 minutes hanging out in front of ZG to get ready? Ouch. |
| 10:45.26 | AnduinLothar | if i can make one to if then my next trick will be getting an undercity raid and kiting 9 servents up to undercity, killing all the guards and leaving the servents |
| 10:45.43 | Codayus | I'm afraid I'd need to start kiting Teramus early if I was to get him there in time... :-) |
| 10:46.04 | Codayus | lol |
| 10:46.16 | Codayus | Okay, that would be *epic*. :-) |
| 10:46.45 | AnduinLothar | my guild would so do it |
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| 10:47.29 | Codayus | Leaving them in newbie zones might be fun too. Haven't played with the servants much, so not sure how well it'd work though... |
| 10:47.50 | AnduinLothar | they have to be attacked, but they don't do too much damage |
| 10:47.59 | AnduinLothar | they own newbs pretty fast tho |
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| 10:48.07 | AnduinLothar | except you can just run away |
| 10:48.17 | Codayus | Hmm, might not be enough guards in the newb zones. |
| 10:48.42 | AnduinLothar | the best art about servants is that you can kite them easily with a pally |
| 10:48.53 | AnduinLothar | because they're always low enough to hammer |
| 10:49.04 | Codayus | ooh |
| 10:49.05 | Codayus | heh |
| 10:49.07 | AnduinLothar | so you just run to hammer range and hammer |
| 10:49.28 | AnduinLothar | then when you're out of mana just do double seal/judge of wisdom |
| 10:49.58 | AnduinLothar | or just wear all mp5 gear |
| 10:50.08 | AnduinLothar | i can get up to 60mp5 unbuffed |
| 10:50.19 | AnduinLothar | +36 with blessing |
| 10:50.50 | AnduinLothar | anyway.. sleep |
| 10:50.52 | Codayus | Nice. |
| 10:50.54 | Codayus | Bye |
| 10:51.08 | Shouryuu | Gooo night |
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| 10:58.56 | Shouryuu | lol what happened? |
| 10:59.05 | Miravlix | Ugh, Goggle Earth gives me motion sickness |
| 10:59.14 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 11:00.19 | Miravlix | It's not funny, it's quite unpleasant. |
| 11:07.18 | Miravlix | Om iTunes |
| 11:07.18 | Miravlix | iTunes er verdens bedste program, når du vil oprette, organisere og nyde dit personlige digitale musik- og videobibliotek med din pc. |
| 11:07.43 | Miravlix | I think iTunes is breaking danish law in there description of the product. |
| 11:08.53 | Miravlix | For the language challenged among you.. "iTunes is the worlds best program" |
| 11:09.07 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 11:09.54 | Miravlix | Your not allowed to make wild claims like that, if I remember Danish law correctly |
| 11:10.39 | Shouryuu | In most laws you can't |
| 11:11.00 | Shouryuu | It's like Heineken's slogan, "*Probably* the best beer in the world" |
| 11:11.34 | Miravlix | Yeah those are fine, but Apple claims it is THE best program, no if buts or maybe |
| 11:12.05 | Shouryuu | Aye |
| 11:13.25 | Miravlix | Thoug I don't watch advertisment, so I don't know if they claim it here and there, this was in the description file after the lincense as I was installing |
| 11:14.13 | Shouryuu | Maybe they can claim that after you've installed it? |
| 11:14.24 | Miravlix | No during |
| 11:32.48 | Shouryuu | Dammnn my accounts frozen :( |
| 12:06.31 | krka | what is the best mod for priest healing? |
| 12:07.25 | Shouryuu | Depends I guess... |
| 12:07.47 | Shouryuu | I don't use any and have never felt the need for any... buut that's ust me |
| 12:07.48 | krka | what's your opinion? :) |
| 12:07.53 | krka | i see |
| 12:07.54 | Shouryuu | *just |
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| 12:37.36 | Shouryuu | ok my j key works once in a while |
| 12:37.38 | Shouryuu | this is pissing me off |
| 12:42.46 | Miravlix | N is broken on my other machine |
| 12:43.04 | Miravlix | And offcourse my password on that machine contains a n |
| 12:43.06 | Shouryuu | I don't know if something is under the key or if it's just broken |
| 12:43.21 | Miravlix | They do just break |
| 12:43.34 | Shouryuu | :@ Grrrr |
| 12:43.51 | Miravlix | I've use up keyboards regularly |
| 12:44.06 | Shouryuu | i haven't :P |
| 12:44.18 | Miravlix | I try to invest in expensive ones, so they last longer. |
| 12:44.37 | Miravlix | Took me 3 months to where out my Laptops keyboard |
| 12:45.14 | zenzelezz | do you type hard or something? |
| 12:46.01 | Miravlix | Don't think so, but I am a touch typist and I type a lot. |
| 12:46.42 | Miravlix | But I think it's primarly games that is the hardest on keyboards |
| 12:46.56 | zenzelezz | probably true |
| 12:47.00 | Miravlix | Take my a s d key, text is worn off there |
| 12:47.02 | Shouryuu | I've used up the paint on my mouse :P |
| 12:47.06 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 12:47.32 | Miravlix | N and M is gone too |
| 12:47.57 | Miravlix | Don't remember what game use N and M |
| 12:48.43 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 12:48.51 | zenzelezz | I'm surprised my M-key survived Anarchy Online |
| 12:48.55 | Shouryuu | I locked my mouse somehow but I don't know how to unlock it |
| 12:48.56 | zenzelezz | I hit it at least every 9 seconds |
| 12:49.08 | Miravlix | Aah offcourse it must be AO, played it for 3+ years |
| 12:49.21 | zenzelezz | AO's action keys were all in that area |
| 12:49.46 | Miravlix | Second I stop playing something, I almost instantly forget keybindings |
| 12:49.52 | Shouryuu | lol I feel very stupid |
| 12:50.09 | zenzelezz | I remember them until I get into a new game... then I get them all confused |
| 12:50.21 | Miravlix | Too bad your looks aren't helping either, Shouryuu |
| 12:50.30 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 12:50.38 | Shouryuu | meannie :P |
| 12:51.11 | Miravlix | I love making mean comments about peoples look over a text only communication medium. |
| 12:51.21 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 12:51.34 | zenzelezz | the fun part is when they still blow up about it |
| 12:51.43 | Shouryuu | Well it always hurts less when you know the person saying that has no idea what he's talking about :P |
| 12:51.48 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 12:53.15 | Miravlix | Hmm, this iTunes installer... |
| 12:53.26 | Miravlix | It's spend 30+ mins on installing QuickTime now |
| 12:53.54 | Miravlix | And Cancel is greyed out so I can't even restart it. |
| 12:54.23 | End | it just hates you |
| 12:54.28 | End | that's my answer for everything |
| 12:54.32 | Miravlix | I just found the installer window had started another window I hadn't seen |
| 12:54.36 | End | got a problem? it just hates you |
| 12:54.39 | End | ah |
| 12:54.55 | Miravlix | It poped up behind everything, I just love that |
| 12:55.11 | zenzelezz | I still don't know why they have a QuickTime-without-iTunes download on their site but no links to it |
| 12:55.32 | Miravlix | But the installer has this progress bar that happily ticks off progress |
| 12:55.45 | Miravlix | Instead os stopping up while the other window was active. o.O |
| 12:56.56 | Miravlix | iTunes got on PCMag's top 100 Year tech |
| 12:57.15 | Miravlix | And I've not been happy with Windows/Winamp |
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| 12:57.54 | zenzelezz | well, if you intend to use iTunes, then that download is fine ;) |
| 12:58.11 | Shouryuu_ | Yeahh repaired my mousy |
| 12:58.37 | End | I'm okay with winamp, but it's horrible for use with video imo. I have not yet tried iTunes, so I wouldn't really know how good iTunes is |
| 12:59.03 | Miravlix | He repaired the mouse but failed at life... |
| 12:59.20 | Miravlix | What? Internet isn't = life? |
| 12:59.43 | End | on teh interweb |
| 13:00.41 | Shouryuu_ | I > life over and over |
| 13:01.23 | zenzelezz | your redirect life? |
| 13:01.30 | zenzelezz | *you |
| 13:02.07 | End | I can't help but notice almost all my spam I can't even read anymore..it's all in chinese and japanese and whatever |
| 13:12.48 | Kirkburn | I really feel like playing Diablo II |
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| 13:36.02 | Shouryuu_ | lol |
| 13:36.06 | Shouryuu_ | Done too much of that |
| 13:48.06 | Wobin | Hehe Kirkburn I know how you feel |
| 13:48.16 | Wobin | I used to have the iso's permanantly on my system |
| 13:48.20 | Wobin | for when the urge struck =P |
| 13:49.22 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 13:51.37 | End | grr, I think lua.org is down |
| 13:55.08 | End | oh wait, it is up now |
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| 14:09.16 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:09.18 | Wobin | pirate cat |
| 14:09.19 | Wobin | http://photos.imageevent.com/guitarchick/personal/websize/punky3.jpg |
| 14:10.38 | krka | pirate? |
| 14:10.46 | Wobin | Can't you see it saying "YARRR"? |
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| 14:11.25 | krka | no :( |
| 14:12.02 | Wobin | no imagination =( |
| 14:13.25 | Elkano | I'd rather call it common sense... cats don't go "YARRR"... |
| 14:15.32 | Wobin | huh |
| 14:15.39 | Wobin | The cool ones do |
| 14:15.54 | Wobin | You just haven't known any cool cats =P |
| 14:16.53 | zenzelezz | I swear my cat says "nerf" when it hisses |
| 14:17.23 | Elkano | cat: nothing more than a food ingredient... (at least if you ask the 'right' people...) |
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| 14:31.21 | Tem | woot lol |
| 14:31.28 | Tem | I have 1337 emails in my inbox |
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| 16:15.02 | JoshBorke | 40784 |
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| 16:15.29 | Shouryuu_ | SomeRandomNumber |
| 16:15.37 | Cairenn | 362836 |
| 16:16.00 | JoshBorke | bored this afternoon? |
| 16:16.13 | Shouryuu_ | A *tad* |
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| 16:29.07 | Iriel | morning. |
| 16:29.20 | Cairenn|afk | hey Iriel :) |
| 16:33.03 | wereHamster | morning |
| 16:33.16 | Wobin | Happy belated, Iriel =P |
| 16:33.42 | Iriel | thanks |
| 16:34.28 | krka | congrats on your age % 365 days == 0 |
| 16:34.53 | Cide | now that's a very nerdy way to congratulate someone. |
| 16:34.55 | Cide | I like it |
| 16:34.56 | JoshBorke | happy belated iriel |
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| 17:28.27 | Shouryuu_ | rawrt |
| 17:33.01 | End | decided to try out xmlspy |
| 17:33.21 | End | it just occured to me that xmlspy would not like WoW renaming FrameXML to FrameXML.old |
| 17:33.26 | End | since then it can't find the xsd |
| 17:36.08 | Kirkburn | Shouryuu|Joy, you've been using <br> again |
| 17:36.27 | Kirkburn | Naughty Shouryuu|Joy ! |
| 17:36.43 | Kirkburn | Go to bed without dinner |
| 17:37.10 | Shouryuu|Joy | Nooooo |
| 17:37.17 | Shouryuu|Joy | Why's that bad? |
| 17:38.11 | Kirkburn | Wikiwiki people say bad things about breakers |
| 17:38.18 | Shouryuu|Joy | Or maybe "sorry master, please forgive me" is a more appropriate answer? |
| 17:38.27 | Kirkburn | Yes. |
| 17:38.28 | Shouryuu|Joy | WikiWiki people? |
| 17:38.43 | Kirkburn | They live on Pedia Island |
| 17:38.55 | Kirkburn | Very wise people, they are |
| 17:39.10 | Shouryuu|Joy | lol |
| 17:40.06 | Kirkburn | 20 mins after you finished editing CastOptions, it was leapt on and 'cleaned up' :) |
| 17:40.40 | Shouryuu|Joy | Sorry :( It won't happen again, I swear! |
| 17:41.24 | Kirkburn | heh, have a look at the changes Schmidt made, should help you do the next ones :) |
| 17:42.59 | Shouryuu|Joy | indeed |
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| 17:45.55 | End | wait, Cairenn was gone?? Why didn't we have our PARTAY???? |
| 17:46.41 | Cairenn | ya snooze ya lose |
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| 17:49.46 | Iriel | End: WRT to XMLSpy, the general approach is you do your dev work in another filesystem tree, and use a batch file or build script to copy the files into wow's tree |
| 17:50.38 | Shouryuu|Joy | Wohooo |
| 17:50.47 | Shouryuu|Joy | repaired both my "j" and "h" key |
| 17:51.55 | End | Iriel: ah, ok |
| 17:52.02 | Shouryuu|Joy | I was hoping for a mass hysteria of "congratulation!" and "you rock!" but I guess I watch too many movies |
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| 17:52.25 | grimman | Shouryuu|Joy: Repaired? |
| 17:52.34 | Iriel | I suspect if your audience wasn't a bunch of technies it would be different 8-) |
| 17:52.55 | grimman | You mean you un-clogged the springy/rubbery things below the keycaps? ;P |
| 17:53.05 | Shouryuu|Joy | grimman Yuuupp :D |
| 17:53.15 | Shouryuu|Joy | And boy is my keyboard dirty |
| 17:53.17 | grimman | That's disgusting. |
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| 17:53.24 | grimman | I know, they tend to be. |
| 17:53.33 | grimman | I cleaned mine out... felt brand new afterwards. |
| 17:53.36 | grimman | It was a weird feeling. |
| 17:53.39 | Shouryuu|Joy | hehe |
| 17:53.55 | grimman | Hm... this one must be 5 years old by now. |
| 17:53.57 | Kirkburn | You rock! Congratulation! |
| 17:54.09 | Kirkburn | Mas hysteria! |
| 17:54.10 | Shouryuu|Joy | I *knew* i could count on you Kirk |
| 17:54.18 | Kirkburn | Spelling ftw! |
| 17:54.18 | grimman | Now if only I lived in germany I could buy a replacement. |
| 17:54.51 | Kirkburn | Write the special keys on with tippex? |
| 17:54.58 | grimman | Anyway, time to kill stuff in slow-motion. F.E.A.R. ftw. ^^ |
| 17:55.14 | Kirkburn | Viel spaB |
| 17:55.34 | grimman | Graphics bug ftl. |
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| 18:03.13 | wereHamster | Kirkburn, spaB? |
| 18:04.03 | Kirkburn | Spaß, fun |
| 18:04.17 | wereHamster | you also can write 'spass' |
| 18:04.34 | Kirkburn | I know, but it's hardly normal in Germany (yet) |
| 18:05.46 | wereHamster | I think it is.. I don't see ß anymore in out local newspaper |
| 18:07.24 | Kirkburn | Ah, okay, I'll change then :) |
| 18:07.40 | Kirkburn | It's such a bitch to find the symbol for anyway |
| 18:10.04 | Shouryuu|Joy | uhu |
| 18:16.31 | Shouryuu|Joy | rawr out folks |
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| 19:11.58 | Kirkburn | Ah, looks like the patch won't be tomorrow ... Hortus said today: "Thanks for the report Ogun, this should be fixed in an upcomming build." which suggests to me there are more builds to come |
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| 19:36.12 | End | I'm kinda glad it isn't tomarrow actually, I still have code to finish >_< |
| 19:36.37 | End | of course, it'll probably end up being tomorrow anyways, just to mess me up :P |
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| 19:53.46 | Shouryuu|Joy | hello |
| 19:54.58 | JoshBorke | hello |
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| 20:07.01 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 20:07.02 | Shouryuu|Joy | indeed |
| 20:07.55 | Shouryuu|Joy | Anyone know of a good program to animate one's avatar? |
| 20:08.24 | Elviso | gimp |
| 20:08.24 | Shouryuu|Joy | Isn't that on linux? |
| 20:08.37 | Shouryuu|Joy | ah |
| 20:08.37 | Shouryuu|Joy | got a windows installer :P |
| 20:08.51 | Elviso | its very nice and easy |
| 20:08.52 | Shouryuu|Joy | Ok i'll give it a try |
| 20:09.06 | Shouryuu|Joy | thanks :P |
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| 20:46.13 | Kirkburn | Hmm, what's another scottish name for something like a church? |
| 20:47.02 | Kirkburn | I want an alternative name like Mr. Lupus Luna there ^ :) |
| 20:49.21 | Tain | Scottish name for a church? hmm... Distillery? |
| 20:50.00 | Shouryuu|Joy | loool |
| 20:50.10 | kaso | haha |
| 20:52.14 | ckknight | lol |
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| 20:53.36 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 20:54.28 | Shouryuu|Joy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:11.48 | Kirkburn | What exactly is Tigole's job? Updating the wiki ... |
| 21:12.05 | End | something along the lines of a dungeon designer |
| 21:12.13 | cladhaire | He's not Lead Designer, imo |
| 21:13.00 | Qzot | Tigole? |
| 21:13.11 | Kirkburn | s'what I wrote ... |
| 21:13.12 | Qzot | Doesn't he make the ice cream sold in Shimmering Flats? |
| 21:13.20 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:13.40 | End | lol |
| 21:13.51 | Kirkburn | Tigole Bitties, he da man |
| 21:14.33 | Qzot | Maybe he sometimes spells it "Tigule". |
| 21:14.38 | Kirkburn | "Tigole: I'm the Lead Designer responsible for World Design" |
| 21:14.41 | Kirkburn | He does |
| 21:15.09 | Shouryuu|Joy | I am so angry |
| 21:15.12 | Qzot | Are you talking about wowwiki? |
| 21:15.18 | Shouryuu|Joy | I have these in-ear head phones |
| 21:15.34 | Kirkburn | He has a Flickr account? http://www.flickr.com/photos/21206761@N00/ |
| 21:15.34 | Shouryuu|Joy | and I just lost *one* of the little rubber protections that makes the ear-phone hold in your ear.. |
| 21:15.54 | Kirkburn | Now, you don't want to lose your rubber protection now |
| 21:16.03 | Shouryuu|Joy | lol |
| 21:16.24 | Qzot | Shouryuu: Peanut butter is a great substitute. Just don't get it in the little holes. |
| 21:16.26 | Shouryuu|Joy | Strange how you always manage to take what I say and twist it into some form of perverted remark |
| 21:16.31 | Kirkburn | Qzot, yes wowwiki |
| 21:16.55 | Shouryuu|Joy | lol Qzot |
| 21:17.20 | Qzot | The first day is a little tacky, but after a week or two it has the right consistency. |
| 21:17.32 | Shouryuu|Joy | eeeew |
| 21:17.37 | cladhaire | Tigule and Foror's is a spoof on Tigole Bitties and Furor Planedefiler.. |
| 21:17.58 | Qzot | Hmm. I seem to be unfamiliar with both of those. Google time! |
| 21:18.04 | Shouryuu|Joy | same |
| 21:18.29 | cladhaire | ~Tigole |
| 21:18.34 | cladhaire | ~Furor |
| 21:18.54 | cladhaire | Tigole was one of the heads of Legacy of Steel in EQ.. and I believe Furor was FoH |
| 21:18.55 | End | There are a lot of little references like that |
| 21:18.59 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 21:19.02 | Qzot | As to perverted remarks, my Arabic professor said every Arabic word has 4 meanings: its basic meaning, its opposite, some religious meaning, and some salacious meaning. |
| 21:19.13 | cladhaire | They're two top EQ players living the dream at Blizzard =) |
| 21:19.15 | End | Pat Nagle is another example |
| 21:19.21 | cladhaire | aye |
| 21:19.23 | kaso | Anyone know who styleen is and why he has a cart in gagetzan? |
| 21:19.40 | Qzot | Is Pat Nagle male? |
| 21:19.44 | End | Metzen appeared as a reindeer |
| 21:19.52 | End | I think so |
| 21:19.56 | Qzot | I ask, because I had a crush on a female Pat Nagle as a kid. |
| 21:20.02 | End | lol |
| 21:20.06 | cladhaire | hahah i believe he is in fact male |
| 21:21.32 | Qzot | ~Metzen |
| 21:21.38 | Qzot | ~Dubya |
| 21:21.38 | purl | dubya is, like, a moron, or fun to say. Try it. "Dubya Dubya Dubya Bush!' |
| 21:21.45 | Qzot | ~Qzot |
| 21:21.48 | Qzot | ~Cairenn |
| 21:21.48 | purl | rumour has it, cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface.com, also EQInterface, EQ2Interface and VGInterface |
| 21:21.56 | Qzot | ~cladhaire |
| 21:21.56 | purl | cladhaire is probably the current author of WatchDog, Bishop and AceHooks |
| 21:22.00 | Qzot | ~purl |
| 21:22.00 | purl | it has been said that purl is not a bot |
| 21:23.33 | Shouryuu|Joy | ~shouryuu |
| 21:23.34 | purl | shouryuu is an annoying forum troll |
| 21:23.39 | Shouryuu|Joy | Ah |
| 21:23.39 | Shouryuu|Joy | there we go |
| 21:23.56 | Shouryuu|Joy | That's rather crude and direct |
| 21:24.29 | cladhaire | ~cladhaire |
| 21:24.30 | purl | methinks cladhaire is the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons. He is also a core developer of the Ace project. |
| 21:24.31 | cladhaire | better =) |
| 21:24.33 | Cairenn | computer being massively flaky, rebooting |
| 21:24.43 | End | oh noes! don't die Cairenn! |
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| 21:24.44 | Shouryuu|Joy | That's not fair |
| 21:24.45 | End | doh! |
| 21:24.52 | Shouryuu|Joy | lol |
| 21:24.59 | Qzot | ~lol |
| 21:24.59 | purl | [lol] stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 21:25.16 | End | ~hamsters |
| 21:25.16 | purl | Hamsters are the natural enemies of bunnies and therefore the saviours of our world! (See also "bunnies") |
| 21:25.22 | End | ~bunnies |
| 21:25.22 | purl | Bunnies are evil. Just look at their long ears and the way they twitch their noses. They're evil i tell you! And the reason they don't wear glasses, is because they use contacts. |
| 21:25.26 | Qzot | Bah. Clearly not keeping up with most current usage, Purl. |
| 21:25.51 | Qzot | ~perl |
| 21:25.51 | purl | somebody said perl was at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Perl or at http://www.perl.com, or a knitting stitch, or the Pathologically Eclectic rubbish Lister, or that other "P" language |
| 21:27.11 | ckknight | ~Mr. Plow |
| 21:27.20 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:27.24 | ckknight | ~Mr Plow |
| 21:27.29 | Qzot | ~ckknight |
| 21:27.31 | ckknight | I know I put it in there |
| 21:27.41 | ckknight | ~listkeys plow |
| 21:27.51 | ckknight | ~listkeys Plow |
| 21:27.57 | ckknight | blast |
| 21:28.00 | ckknight | oh well |
| 21:28.04 | Qzot | ~blast |
| 21:28.04 | purl | i heard blast is a program which allows one to Vent his/her frustration with programs by blowing holes in them |
| 21:28.05 | ckknight | ~emulate cookie monster |
| 21:28.05 | purl | "C" is for cookie, that's good enough for me. Oh....cookie,cookie,cookie starts with "C". |
| 21:28.08 | Shouryuu|Joy | I don't what's worst. Purl not knowing you or purl thinking you're an annoying forum troll |
| 21:28.35 | Qzot | Thinking you're an annoying forum troll is much worse. |
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| 21:28.56 | Qzot | Unknown reputation vs bad reputation. The choice is clear. |
| 21:29.06 | Shouryuu|Joy | Humm don't know... |
| 21:29.14 | Shouryuu|Joy | Being a forum troll can't be *that* bad |
| 21:30.00 | End | ~End |
| 21:30.00 | purl | [end] near. |
| 21:30.04 | End | :O |
| 21:30.09 | Shouryuu|Joy | lol |
| 21:30.16 | End | apparently the end is near. |
| 21:30.42 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 21:31.08 | cladhaire | 060606 |
| 21:31.13 | cladhaire | OH NOES |
| 21:31.44 | Shouryuu|Joy | haha |
| 21:31.50 | Cairenn | yeah ... I'm betting Blizz is NOT happy that they've got to put off 1.11 ... they *really* wanted to release it on 666 |
| 21:31.59 | End | hehe |
| 21:32.00 | End | yeah |
| 21:32.00 | Shouryuu|Joy | :D |
| 21:32.45 | _B | Huh? |
| 21:32.54 | _B | It's not coming out this week? |
| 21:33.01 | Cairenn | nope |
| 21:33.03 | End | I wonder why exactly they delayed it...maybe it was due to that severe naxx bug I heard about? |
| 21:33.04 | _B | GAY! |
| 21:33.05 | zenzelezz | we should see soon anyway |
| 21:33.09 | ckknight | Cairenn, this is your doing |
| 21:33.10 | _B | How do you know this? |
| 21:33.11 | ckknight | _B, gay? |
| 21:33.11 | Cairenn | delayed at least a week |
| 21:33.17 | End | Cairenn has...her ways |
| 21:33.23 | ckknight | damn you, Cairenn |
| 21:33.25 | Cairenn | _B: excuse me? |
| 21:33.27 | ckknight | always ruining it for us |
| 21:33.35 | ckknight | jk |
| 21:33.39 | zenzelezz | does this mean that what the background downloader has downloaded may be useless since they may change the data before going live? |
| 21:33.48 | End | zenzelezz, I don't think so |
| 21:34.09 | End | it probably just add another mpq to the list to download |
| 21:34.11 | zenzelezz | I don't particularly mind, but I would feel sorry for the slowbies if it did |
| 21:34.48 | Cairenn | this is why it's been delayed: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8586305&tmp=1#post8586305 |
| 21:35.03 | End | there was an initial ~96 meg one, but it looked like there might have been another 30 meg download in process when I logged on last night |
| 21:35.17 | End | Cairenn: yeah, that was it |
| 21:35.26 | zenzelezz | yes, I first downloaded 97 MB, then more, up to 127 |
| 21:35.52 | End | zenzelezz: yeah, I think if there needs to be more changes, it'll just download a bit more |
| 21:36.33 | End | the 96 meg one won't be completely useless, and parts will be superseded by newer pieces |
| 21:36.55 | Kirkburn | Most of it is assets, though, 30 Meg can't be fixes |
| 21:37.16 | End | well, it might make a new copy of the entire file |
| 21:37.23 | End | if a file changes |
| 21:37.23 | Kirkburn | True |
| 21:38.02 | Kirkburn | mmm, pork chop |
| 21:38.10 | zenzelezz | 1.11 will have some very nice stuff, but as long as I get a hold of Blood Money tomorrow I'll be content with waiting a bit more >:) |
| 21:44.02 | Kirkburn | It's broken. |
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| 21:44.18 | zenzelezz | in that case... |
| 21:47.29 | zenzelezz | shouldn't have to... unless Kirkburn lied |
| 21:47.43 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:48.03 | Kirkburn | You're so loud, you don't need a microphone. Sorry, I mean 'bad'. No, wait, I mean... |
| 21:48.37 | Kirkburn | I hear earplugs are going up on the stock market |
| 21:49.18 | zenzelezz | you need to work on your insults... I can't even play along to those |
| 21:49.24 | zenzelezz | learn from Cairenn |
| 21:50.52 | Kirkburn | Hey, what's wrong with starting a discussion on earplugs? If Cairenn's investing, I want to be in on it! |
| 21:51.18 | Kirkburn | And anyway, I'm listening to the Jacksons, so sing all you want, this is just toooo good :P |
| 21:57.22 | Kirkburn | Lol... Urban Dictionary definition of tigole bitties - Gigantic breasts on a girl. "Damn, she got some tigole bitties." |
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| 22:13.21 | Kirkburn | I've barely even put up a page for Furor, and someone's already questioned his existence :/ |
| 22:13.34 | Qzot | Cairenn: Were the changes in ManHunt helpful to your hunter, or miss the target? |
| 22:13.51 | Cairenn | look good to me |
| 22:14.16 | Cairenn | haven't really had a chance to try out the latest |
| 22:14.17 | Qzot | I hate the fact that they often overrun the tooltip. :( |
| 22:14.49 | Qzot | Ah, the latest (by default) gives you level, class, and race of PC enemies. |
| 22:16.09 | Qzot | So instead of seeing "Killzyuu" you get "Killzyuu ?? Gnge", which you'll have to learn to decode. :P |
| 22:16.23 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:16.50 | Qzot | 1st 2 letters of race, and last 2 of class turns out to be unique. |
| 22:17.14 | Cairenn | gnome mage |
| 22:17.21 | Qzot | Got it in one. |
| 22:17.28 | Qzot | Niid? |
| 22:17.39 | Cairenn | NE druid |
| 22:17.50 | Qzot | You're no fun. |
| 22:18.12 | Qzot | ;) |
| 22:18.18 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 22:30.15 | AnduinLothar | clad|dinner I need a way to issolate item suffix attributes... any idea without localized parsing? |
| 22:30.22 | AnduinLothar | i could do side by side comparison |
| 22:30.26 | Shouryuu|Joy | rawr out |
| 22:30.31 | AnduinLothar | but that's expensive |
| 22:33.02 | AnduinLothar | and for side by side i need to know if a suffix ever effects armor, durability or level |
| 22:33.52 | zenzelezz | suffix? "of the ..." type? |
| 22:34.08 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 22:35.04 | zenzelezz | I haven't really checked, but I think the only difference is the stats |
| 22:35.25 | AnduinLothar | clad or cide should know |
| 22:35.59 | AnduinLothar | since cide did ctprofiles and clad wrote the localized tooltip itemizer |
| 22:36.04 | Cide | they don't affect armor, durability or level, no |
| 22:36.24 | AnduinLothar | ok, so i have to do a line by line compare of just the attributes and name? |
| 22:36.48 | Cide | pretty much |
| 22:36.57 | AnduinLothar | do the suffix attributes always show up after the default ones? |
| 22:37.01 | Cide | think so |
| 22:37.17 | AnduinLothar | are there any suffixes that modify /add to default values |
| 22:37.36 | Qzot | AnduinLother: What do you mean 'isolate item suffix attributes'? |
| 22:37.37 | AnduinLothar | so default is +10 str and with the suffix is +20 str |
| 22:37.47 | Qzot | What are you starting with, and what do you want to be able to do? |
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| 22:37.51 | Cide | AnduinLothar: there has been, not sure if they removed all of those or not |
| 22:37.52 | AnduinLothar | or would it list +10 twice |
| 22:37.57 | Cide | I do believe the old ones still retain their stats, so yes |
| 22:38.07 | AnduinLothar | which? |
| 22:38.25 | Cide | for example, fire resist item of Fire Resistance |
| 22:38.35 | Cide | has FR by default, and +FR as suffix |
| 22:38.41 | Qzot | Cide: I'm coming in late, but for example, Green Lens of Stamina can give +34 stam, but it lists it as +10 and +24 in the tooltip. |
| 22:38.59 | AnduinLothar | ok, so it will always be listed twice? |
| 22:39.00 | Cide | yes |
| 22:39.03 | zenzelezz | I heard rumors of Dark Iron Boots with Fire Resistance, but not sure if it's fake... if it isn't then it's FR + FR... but can't remember if they get "of ..." name suffic |
| 22:39.04 | Cide | yes, it will always be listed twice |
| 22:39.05 | zenzelezz | *suffix |
| 22:39.08 | AnduinLothar | that's easier to scan then |
| 22:39.27 | AnduinLothar | yeah you can get di of fr |
| 22:39.29 | Qzot | AnduinLother: Again, what are you starting with, and what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 22:39.52 | AnduinLothar | i got it |
| 22:40.13 | AnduinLothar | trying to conserve memory space |
| 22:40.31 | AnduinLothar | and not store full tooltips of each suffix |
| 22:40.32 | zenzelezz | would you just be checking for known suffixes? |
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| 22:40.58 | AnduinLothar | no, compilign that list would be a pain, and is the point of the addon |
| 22:41.05 | zenzelezz | otherwise you'd get the "Hammer of the Vesper" and "Hammer of th Grand Crusader", etc |
| 22:41.14 | AnduinLothar | no you don't |
| 22:41.20 | AnduinLothar | those have different id's |
| 22:41.44 | zenzelezz | I'm only paying half attention; thought you were going by names =) |
| 22:42.01 | AnduinLothar | no, you can get tooltip info based on id or full link |
| 22:42.10 | AnduinLothar | i need to be able to diff them |
| 22:42.30 | AnduinLothar | to issolate what each suffix code does |
| 22:42.58 | AnduinLothar | and maybe enchants, but i can just set those to 0 for simplicity |
| 22:43.03 | Qzot | Doesn't wowwiki already have a complete list? It's very well patterned. |
| 22:43.08 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 22:43.19 | AnduinLothar | each item has it's own suffix table |
| 22:43.58 | Qzot | That has not been my experience. Can you tell me a test that demonstrates this? |
| 22:44.29 | AnduinLothar | either that or each table has a list of items and their attributes are based on chance and item level, but it's harder to abstract that way |
| 22:44.54 | AnduinLothar | for instance the same suffix has different amount of stats on diff level'd items |
| 22:44.58 | Qzot | Ah. Let me try to clarify. I think we're saying the same thing different ways. |
| 22:45.15 | Qzot | For any object, there is a limited set of enhancements for that object. |
| 22:45.35 | AnduinLothar | object means nothing |
| 22:45.51 | Qzot | Any known enhancement is associated with an integer value which completely defines how the enhancement modifies the base object. |
| 22:46.13 | Qzot | s/object/item/ |
| 22:46.27 | AnduinLothar | what kidn of item |
| 22:46.44 | AnduinLothar | nm |
| 22:46.48 | Qzot | Any item that can have a random enhancement. E.g., Green Lens. |
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| 22:47.09 | AnduinLothar | ok, i know how it works, you're jsut confusing me by explaining it differently |
| 22:47.23 | _B | lol. |
| 22:47.27 | Qzot | As I said. I think we're saying the same thing in different ways. |
| 22:47.47 | AnduinLothar | i asked my question, i got my answer. thx cide |
| 22:48.18 | AnduinLothar | speaking of which, how did you construct your database of those cide? |
| 22:48.28 | AnduinLothar | via the profiling addon? |
| 22:48.40 | Cide | one field for item id, one for rp id |
| 22:48.52 | AnduinLothar | rp? |
| 22:48.56 | Cide | random property |
| 22:49.15 | AnduinLothar | == suffix |
| 22:49.18 | Cide | yes |
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| 22:49.39 | AnduinLothar | right, that's how it's accessable. but how did you create the database? |
| 22:49.47 | Cide | oh |
| 22:49.51 | Cide | see our addon |
| 22:50.05 | AnduinLothar | not obfuscated i hope |
| 22:50.07 | Cide | http://www.ctprofiles.net/upload.ct?dl=1 |
| 22:50.08 | Cide | nah |
| 22:51.19 | AnduinLothar | that's amazingly small |
| 22:51.55 | Cide | yup |
| 22:52.18 | Cide | just stores itemid/suffixid combination |
| 22:52.24 | AnduinLothar | ahh |
| 22:52.27 | AnduinLothar | that's why |
| 22:53.03 | AnduinLothar | did you mine the wdb for the attribute data then? |
| 22:53.11 | Cide | yes |
| 22:53.38 | AnduinLothar | is it all there even if you haven't seen one? |
| 22:53.48 | Cide | seen one what? |
| 22:53.56 | AnduinLothar | of the specific suffix |
| 22:54.03 | Cide | oh, no |
| 22:54.14 | Cide | the suffix id is linked to a .dbc file |
| 22:54.29 | AnduinLothar | and all the suffixes are in the dbc? |
| 22:54.39 | Cide | nope |
| 22:54.41 | Cide | well |
| 22:54.46 | Cide | all possible suffixes are, yes |
| 22:54.59 | AnduinLothar | but not what item they aplly to |
| 22:55.00 | Cide | but there's no table of which suffixes are used for which items |
| 22:55.06 | AnduinLothar | ah ok |
| 22:55.20 | Cide | which is what the addon overcomes |
| 22:55.34 | AnduinLothar | there'sobviously not a list of items |
| 22:56.24 | AnduinLothar | so you have to get the item tooltip data and suffix # and then look up the suffix from the dbc? |
| 22:56.38 | Cide | just suffix # |
| 22:57.00 | AnduinLothar | all possible items are in the dbc? |
| 22:57.11 | Cide | what do you mean? |
| 22:58.47 | AnduinLothar | so say in 1.1 a new green item drops that you don't have on your home system but someone reports its id and suffix. the suffix is already known and in the database, but to get the item info you would need to either parse the dbc of someone who's seen it or scan their tooltip |
| 22:58.51 | AnduinLothar | 1.11 |
| 22:59.06 | AnduinLothar | right? |
| 22:59.15 | Cide | it'd be uploaded through itemcache.wdb |
| 22:59.40 | AnduinLothar | right, ok. didn't know you uploaded that as well |
| 23:00.35 | AnduinLothar | so anyone who has wow can farm all the suffixes, but you can only get the item info from someone who's seen it |
| 23:00.38 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 23:00.45 | Cide | yep |
| 23:00.50 | AnduinLothar | ok thx |
| 23:05.11 | AnduinLothar | so, full tooltip + all GetItemInfo attributes are stored in the itemcache.wdb ? |
| 23:09.27 | AnduinLothar | and how do you accoutn for unique items and castable items that have a suffix that acts liek a timestamp or character attachment? |
| 23:14.10 | AnduinLothar | cide, that's you again |
| 23:14.52 | AnduinLothar | anyone have a link to the dbc/wdb reverse engineered formating? |
| 23:14.52 | Cide | tooltip + getiteminfo in wdb, yes |
| 23:16.09 | AnduinLothar | and which dbc are the suffixes in? |
| 23:16.47 | Cide | can't remember offhand |
| 23:16.55 | Cide | I know you can find it in the wowguru wiki |
| 23:18.22 | AnduinLothar | of course |
| 23:18.30 | AnduinLothar | hackwow.com |
| 23:18.38 | AnduinLothar | leave it to zeeg |
| 23:21.09 | AnduinLothar | ItemRandomProperties.dbc sound right, cide? |
| 23:21.44 | Cide | that's probably it :) |
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| 23:25.41 | clad|dinner | AnduinLothar: Back, what was your original question |
| 23:26.18 | AnduinLothar | i got it. Was wondering if there was an easy way to get the attributes caused by a suffix |
| 23:26.38 | AnduinLothar | answer: it's in a dbc file |
| 23:27.19 | cladhaire | Well there you go =) |
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| 23:49.05 | AnduinLothar | cide, is there a wdb to csv converter? |
| 23:49.19 | Cide | not that I know of |
| 23:49.29 | AnduinLothar | so how do you parse that data? |
| 23:49.47 | Cide | I didn't write our parser (the other coder did), but I believe php |
| 23:50.19 | Cide | with php* |
| 23:51.54 | AnduinLothar | can i steal it? |
| 23:52.49 | Cide | probably not |
| 23:53.29 | AnduinLothar | didn't think so |
| 23:55.44 | End | php o_O |
| 23:58.59 | ckknight_ | I sorta kinda maybe converted it to python |
| 23:59.49 | End | python sounds a little more usual..php is kinda unusual for that sort of thing |
