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00:00.25Kasonice effect, got like 3k damage mitgation from my shield
00:00.40Shadowedit's nice on bosses when they trash you!
00:01.34Kasoanyhoo, what i came here to say:
00:02.03Kasohttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=49381 US people take a look at that and perhaps foward to US forums.
00:03.47ShadowedKirov: Will have to wait till tomorrow to get the gluth info, not enough people on :(
00:04.26Kirovk
00:04.28Kirovthanks
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00:38.03Thrae|AwayI need Iriel.
00:38.12KirovWe all need Iriel
00:40.14Thrae|AwayI'm finding that running an OnUpdate script which hides GameTooltip when not UnitExists("mouseover") causes two problems: a) It'll hide GameTooltip when mousing over non-units in the world frame (IE, doodads), and b) If a unit "walks into" your mouse without it moving, the game engine will refuse to draw text.
00:40.50Thrae|AwayThe text is not hidden, it has a valid string.len, and its color and alpha are both set to 1.0, but it's not shown.
00:42.19Kirovhmm
00:42.25KirovIs there a reason you do it OnUpdate?
00:43.06Thrae|AwayBecause I want to stop it from fading out.
00:43.45Thrae|AwayThe default action done by the game engine (not Lua) is fading out the tooltip, and there's no associated handler for this. OnTooltipCleared is the first one called AFTER the tooltip has faded.
00:43.58KirovYou just want it to fade out instantly?
00:44.13Thrae|AwayAdditionally, it takes about 2 seconds for GameTooltip:GetAlpha to return less then 1.0
00:44.24Thrae|AwayHide instantly, yes.
00:45.31Thrae|AwayHmmm, I have an idea.
00:46.52Thrae|AwayInstead of hiding it, let me try resetting the owner with ANCHOR_CURSOR.
01:13.05MikmaThrae|Away: how about DisableDrawLayer? :P
01:13.41Mikmaor just GameToolTip:Disable()
01:14.11Thrae|AwayMikma: GameTooltip:EnableDrawLayer("ARTWORK"), which is the draw layer for the FontStrings, did nothing in that instance. Anyway, I fixed the problem by using :SetOwner(owner, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") as well as :SetPoint()
01:14.37Mikmaokies
01:25.18wereHamsterwow.. onyxia dropped 7.5*23g
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01:55.30Esamynnanyone know off hand if the UIParent frame gets hidden during Zoning?
02:17.54KirovEsamynn - I believe so
02:18.32EsamynnI was just wondering if OnUpdate scripts get processed during zoning, I'll do a test to be sure
02:49.33zespri|homemeh
02:49.46zespri|homethere are a thousand of sites with instance guides
02:50.01zespri|homebut there is no single site that has complete information on all istances
02:50.37zespri|homesuch as the full list of quest where are they found if they horde or aliance etc
02:51.19zespri|homeevery time I prepearing for running an instance I need to search whole internet to find bits and pieces and make sure I didn'r miss on any quest
03:17.41cladhaireAnyone here have edit rights to the main WoWWiki page?
03:21.54cladhaire*crickets*
03:24.22KirovI think that's a no
03:24.26chuckg_What do you want clad?
03:26.47cladhairechuckg: Someone who can edit the front page of the wowwiki
03:26.55chuckgYes I know.
03:26.57chuckgWhat do you want to do?
03:27.04cladhaireadd a link to some of the other libraries.
03:27.06cladhaire*shrug*
03:27.09chuckgI'm a guild member of Rustaks, I'm in direct contact with him.
03:27.21chuckgIn fact, I'm talking with him about eq2 right now :)
03:27.25cladhaireI'd like a link to the Ace wiki page where the rest of the libraries are listed
03:27.45chuckgYou'd like to link to the Ace wiki fro mthe wowwiki?
03:28.59Wobinhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Main_Page
03:29.43chuckgHe's doing it.
03:32.05cladhairenifty =)
03:32.06cladhairethanks.
03:32.20KirovWhat happens to "s"s when people are drunk?
03:33.04chuckgWait clad, it's different than you originally wanted.
03:33.08chuckgTalking to him.
03:33.14chuckgBeing relay bitch!
03:33.38cladhairelol
03:33.44chuckgHe wants you to update http://www.wowwiki.com/Ace, which eh will link main page.
03:33.53chuckgI guess he doesn't want to 3rd party link off the main page.
03:34.04chuckgSo, include all the details + your link earlier (http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Main_Page) on that page.
03:34.53cladhairewell, that page already exists, and we can update it to include the new link.
03:35.09cladhaireI'd just like Ace, linking to http://www.wowwiki.com/Ace under the rest of the libraries.
03:35.22cladhairewe'll take care of keeping the ww.com/Ace page up to date
03:35.26chuckgYea he's doing that.
03:35.31chuckgHe knew it existed :)
03:35.36chuckgThe wowwiki ace page.
03:35.44chuckgHe just didn'tw ant to link off site on the main page, I don't think.
03:36.37cladhaireoh no, i never wanted him to
03:36.41cladhaireI just wanted what he's doing :P
03:36.43cladhairethank him for me.
03:37.04chuckgchuckg_> cladhaire says he wants you do die in a pool of battery acide.
03:37.05chuckgDone.
03:37.28cladhairewoot.
03:37.46cladhairein some countries thats just "best wishes" =)
03:38.49chuckgSaid he's deleting your acount asap and banning your ip.
03:38.53chuckgWow way to go shooter.
03:39.31cladhairei have other IP's
03:39.36chuckgWas a joke.
03:39.37cladhaireyou can't stop me that easily
03:39.38cladhaire=)
03:39.39chuckgIt's all a big joke.
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03:39.47chuckgNow tell me.
03:39.51chuckgHow lightweight is clique.
03:39.56cladhairevery
03:39.57chuckgAnd when are you updating praid.
03:39.57chuckg=D
03:40.04chuckgWhat kind of footprint are we talking about?
03:40.06cladhaireconsidering the GUI is almost ALL of the memory usage
03:40.07cladhaire400k
03:40.08cladhairemaybe
03:40.09cladhaireif that
03:40.13cladhairewith all plugins
03:40.16chuckgGUI is LOD?
03:40.21cladhaireno
03:40.23cladhaireit doesn't need to be
03:40.26cladhairecause its so light and sexy
03:40.43cladhairebut it'll be dynamic at some point.
03:41.00cladhaireand PR and WD2 will be my only focus once Clique goes gold.
03:41.50cladhairehaha
03:41.55cladhaireMiniBlizzRaid made it into Nurfed.
03:41.56cladhairelol
03:43.01chuckgYou mean the MBR that doesn't block 90% of the stuff anymore?
03:43.05chuckgSilly silly nurfed!
03:43.14chuckgI know it's not your fault, but it doesn't!
03:43.17cladhaireit still helps
03:43.19cladhairei dont know how
03:43.19cladhairelol
03:43.22cladhairebut it does :P
03:43.34chuckgBlocking the functions from running probably.
03:43.37chuckgBut not blocking the XML junk?
03:43.52cladhairei honestly have no idea what/when it does :P
03:44.01chuckgI want to write a raid status mod for FuBar.
03:44.04chuckgThat's my next project.
03:44.07cladhairek
03:44.08cladhairelol
03:44.18chuckgI'm scared that I'll do it though and ck will release FuBar 2.0 the next day.
03:44.21chuckgAnd I"ll have to convert it.
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03:44.54chuckgPlus big undertakings make my wrists hurt and kill my sleep schedule.
03:45.01chuckgCause I don't sleep till I have a working model.
03:45.10chuckgProbably a bad habit.
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03:45.26cladhairei may start raiding a bit more
03:45.28cladhaireif i have time
03:45.36cladhairewhich'll push some changes into PR as I code them
03:45.44cladhairebut i'm using Lucen's branch of my own code at the moment =)
03:45.44chuckgI want CorkFu to get finished so I can force the lazy ass mages in my guild to use it.
03:45.55chuckgHe released a praid?
03:46.00kergothEnd: fullerror is yours right?
03:46.25cladhairechuckg: No, its on svn in branches
03:46.41cladhairechuckg: Did you really do nothing with regards to the wowwiki page?  Do I still need to contact people?
03:46.43chuckgWhat's it add?
03:46.49chuckg...do nothing?
03:46.51chuckgWhat?
03:46.52chuckgNo.
03:46.56chuckgHe's adding ace to the frontpage.
03:47.20chuckgWhat gave you that idea?
03:48.19cladhaireyou said it was all a big joke, i wasn't sure what the limit of that was =)
03:48.36chuckgTHe last part about battery acid.
03:48.52cladhairei figured that much =)
03:48.55chuckgWas the only joke, besides me talking about code ... but that was post our WoWwiki discussion I believe.
03:49.09cladhairehehe
03:49.21KemayoThe id attribute on frames doesn't have to be globally unique, right?
03:49.41KirovAnyone here tried to do human readable drunk protection?
03:49.54chuckgWhaaaaaaaat?
03:50.05chuckgLike breathalize the player, then encode their text if they're drunk!/
03:50.05chuckg!?
03:50.14Kirovheh
03:50.22cladhaireyes
03:50.27cladhaireCTRA does it
03:50.36Kirovthat's not human readable
03:50.46cladhairemost of it is.
03:51.02Kirovsince capital S's get hidden, and lower case s's get turned in to $
03:51.02cladhairethe sectino marker is readable as "s"
03:51.07cladhairehehe
03:51.12cladhairei consider that readable =)
03:51.13Kirovin code, yes
03:51.15cladhairewhat woul dyou want it to say
03:51.17cladhaire"ess"
03:51.18cladhaire"ESS"
03:51.19cladhaire?
03:51.22KirovBut in-game it doesn't show
03:51.38cladhairehrm
03:51.51cladhairewell its tough to do it within the alphabet.
03:51.56cladhaireand you can't invent new ascii chars
03:52.01Kirov<PROTECTED>
03:52.02Kirov<PROTECTED>
03:52.06KirovThen sending that
03:52.26KirovOn receive I'm going to scan to see if any of them have been turned in to sh
03:52.41cladhairehrm.. dunno then =)
03:52.56KirovProbably need to add another hidden character in front if there's an h
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04:47.41Kirovhttp://www.pastecode.com/1206 - can anyone look at this for me?
04:48.03KirovSee what I'm doing wrong
04:49.03ShadowedThat seems overly complicated
04:49.43KirovGot a better way?
04:49.51KirovI'm counting the "h"s
04:50.00Shadowedahh
04:50.05Cairennand on a completely and utterly unrelated note .... mmmmmmmmmrowl, Depp is still exceptionally tasty as a pirate
04:50.22ShadowedDidn't see that, though you we're just trying to remove the "s"
04:51.53Cairennrofl! Tip:  It is better to quest and die, than to never have quested at all.
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04:58.23Kirovhttp://www.pastecode.com/1207 - more explination
05:04.22Kirovwow, this channel is dead
05:04.36Cideyes
05:05.59KirovCide - any ideas on that?
05:06.06Cide"(.*)(§+?)([Ss]h+)(.*)"
05:06.09Cidenevermind
05:06.23CideI thought it was $, which would have to be escaped
05:09.05KirovThe first gfind isn't picking up all of the "sh"s to begin with
05:09.09KirovIt seems to only see one
05:09.30Cidecan you even do non-greedy +?
05:09.49Cideand why do you want that?
05:10.54KirovSending the tranq rotation via raid
05:10.57KirovIn a human-readable fashion
05:11.04KirovBut that the mod can see and "fix"
05:11.17Cideyeah
05:11.19CideI know
05:11.26Cidebut why do you want "§+?"
05:12.09KirovI guess it should be *
05:12.41Cideyeah, probably
05:12.54Cidewell, actually
05:12.56Cidejust use +
05:13.06Cidethat way it won't match if you don't have any
05:13.17Cide(which seems easier to me? not sure if that's how you want it)
05:13.52KirovIf it's just an s when sent, and gets an sh added to it, I still need to remove the h
05:14.04Kirovbut there won't be a § there
05:14.25Cideah, you're right then
05:14.27KirovUnless I add a § in front of every s
05:14.39KirovAlong with one for each h
05:15.18Kirovwhich is an option
05:15.36CideI think what you're doing should work
05:15.52Kirovshouldn't but doesn't
05:16.01Cidewhat's not working?
05:16.35KirovThe first gfind in Drunk() only matches one pattern
05:16.38KirovNot three
05:16.52KirovThe UnDrunk doesn't find any
05:17.12Kirovhmm
05:17.35Kirov[^h]+?
05:18.04Kirovthough, no, h+ is greedy and shouldn't let the (.*) take any of the "h"s
05:21.17Cidetake
05:21.27Cide"Hi there $$$Shhhh what's up"
05:22.22Cidematching that with "(.*)(§*)([Ss]h+)(.*)" returns: "Hi there $$", "$", "Shhhh", " what's up"
05:22.33CideI'm guessing you want it to be "Hi there ", "$$$" .. instead
05:23.27Kirovyeah
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05:25.37Kirovah, my math is a little off too
05:26.28Cide(.-)([$]*)([Ss]h+)(.*) seems to work here
05:26.40Kirov[$]?
05:26.44Cideya...
05:26.48Cidedoesn't work with $+
05:26.51Kirovright
05:26.52Cideerr, §+
05:28.28Cide(.-)([§]*)([Ss]h+)(.*) seems to work here <- fixed
05:28.54Kirovk
05:29.22Kirovdoes have the issue of not being able to handle it if the first character is a $sh
05:29.37Cidenot that I can see
05:29.45Cide(.-) returns an empty string if that's the case
05:29.53Kirov.- assumes there's a least 1 character I though
05:29.59Kirov.* doesn't
05:30.14Cide.* is greedy
05:30.18Cide.- seems to work
05:30.54Cidematching "$$$Shhhh hi there" with "(.-)([§]*)([Ss]h+)(.*)" gives: "", "$$$", "Shhhh", " hi there"
05:31.05Cides/$/§/
05:31.11Cide...
05:31.23Cidematching "§§§Shhhh hi there" with "(.-)([§]*)([Ss]h+)(.*)" gives: "", "§§§", "Shhhh", " hi there"
05:32.38Kirovlol, I was having an error ... aparently
05:32.39Kirovtext =
05:32.39Kirovis proper lua syntax for = nil
05:33.32KirovWhat do you use for the first patern?
05:35.22Cidewhat you posted should work
05:35.43Kirovyeah, I'd changed it on my side on accident. heh
05:35.44Kirovhmm
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05:40.51CairennSat!
05:41.05Satrinahey!
05:41.40SatrinaClad finally badgered me enough into getting on here.
05:41.51Cairenn'bout damn time you showed up!
05:41.55Satrinahaha
05:42.12Cairennbe glad I misplaced your phone #
05:42.21Satrina!
05:42.32cladhairelol
05:42.38SatrinaI'll email it to you again
05:42.43Cairenn:)
05:43.04Cairennso when are we getting together? Clad said something about a gathering some time this summer, yes?
05:43.04SatrinaWe're having an ST get together of Team Eastern Canada + brave souls who cross the snow line to visit, last weekend of Augus
05:43.13cladhaireI'm excited =)
05:43.15cladhaireSatrina: What are we going to do?
05:43.34SatrinaSame thing we try to do every night, Clad
05:43.43CairennI'll *try* to make sure I'm not in NYC that weekend
05:43.59SatrinaI'd say I am sure Valshea has a plan, but I know he doesn't =D
05:44.12SatrinaSo I'll look at what's going to be on for that weekend
05:44.30ckknightCide, $ is a lua regex special char. use %$ to get a dollar literal
05:44.39Cideckknight: yeah, I know
05:44.45Cairennshame you guys couldn't have come up over this weekend Clad - Bluesfest right now
05:44.46Cidebut he's using § and not $
05:44.52CairennGreat Big Sea opened, last night
05:44.58CideI just kept typing $ for some reason
05:45.01cladhaireCairenn: Really?  I'm home alone right now, but its really quiet.. and nice.
05:45.19Cairenncladhaire: aye
05:45.26SatrinaMatt Mays and Sam Roberts on Monday!
05:45.30cladhaireDewin is in Seattle
05:45.38CairennLyre had planned on volunteering again but didn't get her name in in time
05:45.56Cairennshe was gonna help run the cyber-cafe again
05:46.22cladhaireyour daughter reminds me of a freidn I had when i was younger
05:47.17cladhaireSimpleCombatLog rocks.
05:47.46SatrinaI started tearing apart StatusWindows this week.  Background and border colours are user settable now.  I am amazed at how many people requested that
05:47.46Kirovckknight http://www.pastecode.com/1207
05:48.00cladhaireSatrina: Nice =)
05:48.08CairennSatrina: still loving cfe
05:48.18Satrina=)
05:48.21cladhairecfe needs an option for defaults seetings, so i dont have to set per char
05:48.27SatrinaYeah, that's coming
05:48.48ckknightKirov, why not use gsub?
05:49.05SatrinaI actually have a fair amount of work piled on me this summer, so I don't have as much time to work on addons as I thought I would
05:49.14Cideheading to bed now, good luck with your stuff, Kirov
05:49.22Cairennnight Cide, sweet dreams
05:49.27ckknightcya, Cide
05:49.27Cidenight Cair :)
05:49.31Kirovckknight - because I need to add the same number of "§"s as "h"s
05:49.34Kirovnice cide
05:50.04Kirover, night
05:51.11Kirovactually
05:51.13Kirovhmm
05:51.19KirovI guess gsub would work
05:51.23ckknightKirov, tell me what you want it to turn into
05:51.30ckknightand I'll tell you the pattern you need
05:52.11CairennSatrina: not a bad thing, presuming you get paid for it :)
05:52.25Kirovckknight - read the top of that link
05:52.43SatrinaDefinitely!  It's my day job, but I work from home most of the time
05:52.56Cairennworking from home rocks
05:53.04ckknightKirov, mind telling me what "Shhhshh sh s Test" translates to instead?
05:54.00KirovWhat it does, or what it shoud?
05:54.34Kirovit should translate in to "§§§Shhh§§shh §sh s Test"
05:54.54ckknightokay
05:56.15ckknightit seems like it could be easier to translate all h's to §h
05:56.34ckknightthen send, convert all Sh's to S, then all §h's to h
05:57.37Kirovhmm
05:57.41Kirovyeah, I guess so
05:57.47SatrinaAlrighty, time for bed.  Now that I actually have an irc client installed, you should see me more often =D
05:58.02ckknightor just convert S to §, send, then § to S
05:58.05ckknightlike how it is now
05:58.08Cairennnight Satrina, sweet dreams
05:58.17ckknightgranted, if you convert all h's, then you only deal with 1 letter
05:58.24ckknightcause you don't have to deal with H
05:58.27SatrinaNight Cair :)
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06:02.53Cairennhas anyone seen Iriel of late?
06:02.53Kirov~seen Iriel
06:03.04purliriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 23h 36m 53s ago, saying: 'Esamynn : The worst case is that it's available to some, but not all, of the members'.
06:03.04Cairennpurl is sleeping on the job
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06:08.32Mikk1rofl
06:08.51Mikk1was just thinking i should talk to clad
06:08.57Cairennalways the way
06:10.51ckknightMikk1, lol
06:14.58ckknightwhat about?
06:22.42Kirov"S" = gsub("Sh", "([Ss])h", "%1"); -- yes?
06:25.41KirovAnyone here run on a non english client?
06:30.08Mikk1ckknight: nah, i just have these two projects here that I'm thinking are fairly "community"... my modded myDebug, and now my to-be in-game UI editor. I just wanted to see if clad was willing to give up a few kilobytes of SVN space =)
06:31.44Cairennokay, sleep time for me, night guys
06:31.48Mikk1night ciar!
06:34.25ckknightMikk1, ah, cool
06:34.46ckknightKirov, yes.
06:35.00ckknightto your first thing, I run enUS
06:35.58Mikk1Wulf4 and zespri run nonenglish iirc
06:37.01Kirovlooking for a non english WoW client
06:37.02Wulf4moin
06:37.15KirovI want to know fi they have a SLURRED_SPEECH in their global strings
06:37.32Kirovif anyone knows where I can get recent GlobalStrings.lua for othe localizations...
06:37.48Wulf4Kirov: what /script command can I type to find out?
06:38.15Mikk1<PROTECTED>
06:38.39Wulf4%s...hicks!
06:39.36ckknightKirov, just run a deformat on it
06:39.53ckknightyou'll be good, then
06:40.25Kirovlocal hic = gsub(SLURRED_SPEECH, "%%s", "");
06:40.58ckknightyou'll _probably_ be good if you do that
06:41.04ckknightbut there's no guarantee
06:41.17Mikk1Better if you put in some sort of line terminator
06:41.25KirovYeah, I was thinking of that
06:41.31Kirovstick another hidden character in there
06:41.32Mikk1Preferably one containing a checksum or length indicator
06:41.39Mikk1So you can check for mangling
06:41.54ckknightthat could be a good idea
06:42.06ckknightput a 4 or 6-char checksum at the beginning/end
06:42.20ckknightor whatever
06:44.43ckknightI have a question
06:44.49Kirovhmm
06:45.00ckknightwhat happens if you're drunk and use a bunch of s's in a 255-char message?
06:45.39Wulf4you get a buffer overflow and crash the server?
06:46.00Kirovlol
06:46.24ckknightI wish there was some way to turn off drunken speech.
06:46.41ckknightlike prepending messages with / or something
06:46.54Wulf4very simple -- don't drink
06:47.08ckknightwe can't expect that from users
06:47.42ShadowedZG too
06:49.20Mikk1I saw a post in one of iriel's "changes" threads
06:49.26Mikk1A guy asking for a "hidden" flag
06:49.33Mikk1I'm starting to think it's a very good idea
06:49.54Mikk1I.e. a flag that would mean that a client at the other end, by default, would not show the message
06:49.55ckknightI don't
06:50.07Mikk1And preferably it wouldn't mangle shit either
06:50.08ckknightI don't think it's a good idea at all
06:50.12ckknight:-P
06:50.16Mikk1Howso? =P
06:50.19ckknightit could introduce spam issues
06:50.39ckknightfor people that don't use the mods
06:50.51ckknightgranted, it does seem like an unlikely situation
06:50.59Mikk1Define spam issues
06:51.04Mikk1Someone getting spammed without knowing about it?
06:51.10ckknightright
06:51.15ckknightbandwidth issues
06:52.17Mikk1Beh, they'll all end up in ChatFrame_OnEvent like all other chat events
06:52.28Mikk1Which could summarize if it's seeing lots of uncaught messages
06:52.40ckknighthrm
06:52.43ckknightyea
06:52.46ckknightI guess so :-P
06:53.24ckknightit would be so much easier to just use the guild/raid channels.
06:54.25KirovIf arg9 == 1 then -- is hidden
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06:57.18ckknightthere's that as well, but you gotta admit, it'd be easier to use the guild/raid channels instead of separate, hidden channels
06:59.34Mikk1Umm that's the point of it all
06:59.48Mikk1Allowing mods to use the guild/raid channels
06:59.56Mikk1Without annoying the hell out of people without said mods
07:00.40Mikk1It's gotten to the point that most people in my guild refuse to install a mod that uses another channel
07:00.48Mikk1Simply because they don't have a free channel
07:01.35Wobinckknight: That'd work if we could hide messages
07:01.49ckknightyou came in late, Wobin
07:01.54WobinAw
07:02.30ckknightyou know what would solve this _whole_ issue?
07:02.33ckknight255 channels.
07:02.37Wobinhehe
07:02.42Wobinevery one of them, full of crap =)
07:02.46ckknightyea
07:02.48WobinJust like cable =)
07:02.51ckknightbut have some be hidden by default
07:03.04ckknightand not joined when you log in
07:03.11ckknightso that you have to explicitly join every load
07:03.26WobinMan, that'd get so confusing =P
07:03.36Wobin/144 Hey guys!
07:03.47Wobin/204 Hiya!
07:04.49ckknighthave 1-9 be channels the user can use
07:04.52ckknight<PROTECTED>
07:04.57ckknightproblem solved.
07:05.00ckknightforevers.
07:05.52Kirovlol
07:06.42ckknightwould that not solve it?
07:08.07KirovNot really
07:08.11ckknightwhy not?
07:08.23KirovPeople would just make mods that allow the other 246 channels to be used.
07:08.25ckknightpoint out the flaw so it can be addressed
07:08.33KirovConflicts ensue
07:09.20ckknightI've prepared a statement to address that:
07:09.22ckknightdouches
07:09.32ckknightconflicts?
07:09.38KirovThe fact people are limited to 9 right now just means people only join 9 channels.  If the option for there to be another 246 channels, even if the default UI doesn't support it, people will.
07:09.40ckknighthowso?
07:09.59Kirovyou _know_ someone is going to join all 255 channels
07:10.02ckknightI don't see conflicts any worse than it can be with the current namespacing way
07:10.34KirovI actually like the idea of having hidden messages
07:10.47Mikk1It's nice and compatible
07:10.57KirovThe spam issue is moot
07:11.38KirovIt exists already, so having the spam be hidden in /raid by the game automatically vs. a hidden in another channel doesn't matter.
07:12.39ckknightyea
07:19.40Kirovhttp://www.pastecode.com/1210
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07:22.07MoonWolfmorning.
07:22.10Mikk1well.. i've pinpointed what's killing wow
07:22.15ckknightKirov, not quite
07:22.17Mikk1it's my myDebug SV file
07:22.22Mikk1with a string that's >  4KB
07:22.51ckknightKirov, change text = gsub(text, "·(.+)°", "%1") to text = gsub(text, "^.-·(.+)°.-$", "%1")
07:23.26ckknightjust do that and it's a damn good drunkifier
07:23.41ckknightalso, I don't think you need to have separate · and °
07:23.52ckknightyou could do perfectly fine with having them both be °
07:24.15ckknightalso, you could change § to also be ° without issue.
07:25.48Kirovhttp://www.pastecode.com/1211
07:26.05ckknightlooks nice to me ;-)
07:26.26ckknightoh, change "^.-°(.+)°.-$" to "^.-°(.*)°.-$"
07:26.31ckknightit's an unlikely case, but still.
07:26.53KirovSomeone sending an empty message?
07:27.06Kirovhmm
07:27.06ckknightyea
07:27.13ckknightI'd still include it
07:27.18KirovYeah
07:27.27ckknightbetter than having a message that says °°
07:27.46KirovI'm going to be in complete control of what gets sent, but that should work
07:28.13ckknightyep
07:28.24Mikk1cairenn@wowinterface.com, right?
07:28.37ckknightKirov, also doing one more change...
07:29.33Mikk1on a related note, those funky letters you're using might wreak havoc with unicode clients
07:29.44ckknightprolly.
07:29.52KirovI am concerned about that
07:30.00ckknightI'm trying to fix that issue
07:30.04ckknightthat's the change I'm doing now
07:30.15Kirovhmm
07:30.18Kirov"\t"
07:30.24Mikk1My system does <MyTag>data data<123>
07:30.26Kirovthat won't break anything
07:30.27Mikk1where 123 is the length
07:30.39Mikk1It also does some light encoding of the data
07:30.47Mikk1to avoid "<"s in it, and "s" and "S"
07:30.50Kirov\t counts as a single character, isn't rendered by wow, and isn't culled by the server
07:30.59Mikk1i wouldn't count on that
07:31.06Mikk1totally sounds like something that might break
07:31.06Kirov\t?
07:31.21KirovI've tested it before, \r and \t aren't culled
07:31.25KirovThey're just ignored
07:31.25Mikk1now
07:31.30Kirovtrue
07:31.41Kirovbut neither do anything in editboxes
07:31.49Mikk1If I was just hacking into my mod, I could use stuff like that
07:32.01Mikk1If I was writing a comms lib, I'd be very careful with what I was sending over the servers
07:32.08Mikk1Never know when they might start eating something
07:32.15KirovWhy avoid < btw?
07:32.24Mikk1Because it's my end tag?
07:32.33Kirovah
07:32.59Mikk1Actually what I'm doing is just URL encoding everything
07:33.20Mikk1Anything that isn't plain alphanumerics + space + a few punctuatoin chars becomes %xx
07:33.38Mikk1Very easily done in a gsub() with a function call
07:33.39ckknighthttp://www.pastecode.com/1212
07:33.41ckknightthere you go
07:33.54ckknightthat averts any issues with people using °
07:34.11ckknightUnDrunk(Drunk("It's 58° out!")) == "It's 58° out!"
07:35.11ckknightUnDrunk(Drunk("She sells sea shells by the sea shore")) == "She sells sea shells by the sea shore"
07:35.25Kirov° doesn't get rendered by WoW's font, but it's good to have.
07:35.58ckknightUnDrunk(string.gsub(Drunk("She sells sea shells by the sea shore"), "([Ss])", "%1h")) == "She sells sea shells by the sea shore"
07:36.13ckknightso that should be the best
07:36.25ckknightbtw, Kirov, I'll be using that code for my own stuff ;-)
07:36.32Kirovlol
07:37.36ckknightand also, UnDrunk(string.gsub(Drunk("She sells sea shells by the sea shore"), "([Ss])", "%1h") .. " ...hic!") == "She sells sea shells by the sea shore"
07:37.52ckknight:-)
07:38.21Kirovnice
07:38.39KirovNow to actually get back to the reason I started this
07:41.54ckknightKirov, it's going up on the wowwiki page
07:42.01Kirovcool
07:42.13KirovI should update the item strings page with the 1.11 stuff
07:42.35Kirovwowwiki is being slow for me right now, and uploading that 400k page ...
07:46.18zespri|homeKirov I installed both french and german clients for testing. normaly I run us. do you need to test anything in specific?
07:46.21Mikk1Okay.. random input please.. I want to create a "selection border".
07:46.44Mikk1One that perhaps I can flash in different colors to make it more visible.
07:46.56Kirovzespri - I was just wondering what those clients did to drunk text.
07:47.18Mikk1What'd be the best/easiest way of creating such a border?
07:47.30KirovMikk1 - you would make something like what most image editing programs use
07:47.37Kirovthe - - - - - moving line
07:47.45Mikk1In WoW?
07:47.52Mikk1That sounds panful
07:47.56Mikk1painful
07:48.30Mikk1I was just wondering if anyone could think of a nice hack that doesn't require me to go draw a border bitmap
07:48.31KirovJust have 1 pixel texture objects with a checker box texture and use SetTexCoord() OnUpdate
07:48.51KirovThere's a checker box texture already in wow too
07:48.54zespri|homeit may be a problem kirov, because you have to be able to read german and french, to realize that words were distorted =)
07:49.17Mikk1zespri|home: not if you're chatting in english =P
07:49.27Kirovzespri - get really drunk, wait a bit, and start whispering "quick brown fox" to yourself
07:49.58Mikk1the whole quick brown fox sentence that is =P
07:50.03zespri|homewhat do you mean by really drunk? does it give you a nessage like 'now you are really drunk?
07:50.19ShadowedWhen the screen starts to blur you've drank too much
07:50.39Kirovzespri - go buy 5 of the least expensive strong liquor you can find and drink them all
07:51.00Kirovyou'll get a message that says "you feel completely smashed"
07:51.10Kirov(or at least the localized equivalent)
07:51.11zespri|homewhere do you normaly get them?
07:51.19KirovAre you horde or alliance?
07:51.20zespri|homethe liquer? at inkeeper?
07:51.22zespri|homehorde
07:51.27KirovNot sure
07:51.36KirovBut yeah, usually an inkeeper or barmaid
07:51.48ckknighthttp://www.wowwiki.com/Addon_Comm_Protocol#Sobriety_filter
07:51.55ckknight^-- there we go :-)
07:52.17ckknightactually, there doesn't really need to be a ° at the front...
07:53.22Kirovckknight - unless blizzard is crazy and does "hick! ... %s"
07:53.33ckknightKirov, it doesn't
07:53.42Kirovon any localization?
07:53.45ckknighthrm.
07:54.10ckknightfrankly, I doubt it
07:55.15zespri|homei don;t know maybe tauren never drink. can't find a vendor in TB
07:56.11ckknightzespri|home, hehe, I've gotten drunk as a tauren
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07:58.57KirovI have no idea what horde side liquor is called
07:59.32ckknightalcohol
07:59.43Kirovlol
07:59.46Kirovdoesn't help
07:59.56ckknightit's called the same things
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08:18.01Shadowedblasted IE7
08:18.58ShadowedI have it installed, I still prefer IE
08:19.25Mikk1The mind boggles at the concept.
08:19.28ShadowedBut either i'm missing something or it's no longer possible to drag stuff above the URL bar
08:20.17Shadowedoh god no
08:20.28Mikk1o.O
08:20.33Mikk1Opera kicks ass too
08:20.33ShadowedI'll take Firefox over Opera :p
08:22.34ShadowedDon't really care about most of the features Firefox offers over IE6, and the security stuff again, has never been an issue
08:23.00Mikk1I know tens of thousands that'd say otherwise =P
08:23.08Mikk1About IE security that is
08:23.25ShadowedIf I know i'm viewing a site that it's an issue I switch to Firefox :p
08:23.39Shadowedbut thats pretty rare
08:24.26Mikk1so.. any blog or mass hosting site then?
08:24.38Mikk1cause that's where IE users have gotten bitten in the past
08:24.49Mikk1not to mention on-line e-mail sites
08:24.53Mikk1webmail even
08:25.17ShadowedNot really
08:27.06Shadowedfss
08:27.13Shadowedblizzard site still doesnt work properaly
08:27.34Shadoweds/properaly/properly/
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08:33.01Mikk1God. Lua tables > XML
08:33.26Mikk1{ f="SetPoint", "TOPLEFT", "&prev(Frame)", "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5 },
08:33.53Mikk1name="$parent_Foo$count(MyCounter)"
08:34.09Mikk1Pastepastepastepaste
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08:34.37Mikk1Um... wonder if I should simply have a loop construct
08:34.49Mikk1That'd be cool
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09:39.21ckknighthow do I get drunk horde-side?
09:41.07Mikk1Buy alcohol at the nearest inn?=
09:41.15Mikk1Except if you're a cow, apparently
09:41.43Mikk1They probably eat funny-looking flowers instead
09:41.49Mikk1Udderly ridiculous
09:43.08WobinMan, have you -tried- fermented milk?
09:43.15Wobin*ghyargh*
09:45.23Mikk1... now i remember why i hate wow xml
09:47.48AnduinLotharMikk: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1153-1-sky.html
09:48.05AnduinLothardo you see a v2.11 there? for some reason I still see only 2.10
09:48.35Mikk12.10
09:49.07AnduinLotharah, it's just cache. i openned ina  new browser and it's there.. odd
09:49.39Mikk1o.O
09:49.47Mikk1I only see 2.10
09:50.04AnduinLotharyeah, not sure what that's about... maybe some server thing... i JUST put it up there
09:50.16KirovI see 2.11
09:50.31AnduinLothari know they have more than one server so it might be which ever one i was directed to isn't updated as fast
09:50.52Mikk1That'd explain a thing or two
09:52.22AnduinLotharanyway, there you go. fairly large as embeddable libs go, but then that's what embedding's all about, eh..
09:53.03Mikk1Great!
09:53.06Mikk1I'll toy with it in a bit
09:53.19AnduinLothar:)
09:53.51AnduinLotharI have an experimental standalone version of ArcanePartyBars that has Sky embedded if you wanna toy with that too
09:54.08AnduinLotharAdded raid casting bars
09:54.21Mikk1Hmm.. I'm a default UI kinda guy =)
09:54.43AnduinLotharwell it shows some simple Sky usage anyway
09:54.47Mikk1True
09:54.51Mikk1Heck why not
09:54.53Mikk1Where can I get it?
09:54.59AnduinLotharit's jsut casting bars btw, not unit frames
09:55.23AnduinLotharonyl really useful if you have someone else to toy with or another account to duel box
09:55.31zespri|homeis there a site with fishing data? i.e. which zone features which fish?
09:55.42AnduinLothartho it has a debugging mode to show your own casts
09:55.43Mikk1thottbot
09:55.56Mikk1but as usual the db is full of shit
09:56.19Mikk1so you will need to skip the "100% (Some Damn Rare Fish) caught: 1 time"
09:56.38zespri|homehow do you find the list of fish in a zone on thott?
09:58.23Mikk1search for e.g. "raw whitescale salmon"
09:58.32Mikk1you'll get a list of where it's dropped, and how often
09:58.37Mikk1you can click the zone names there
10:01.11zespri|homeand which particular fish do you recomend to search for? if I want to get a list of all fish say in hinterlands?
10:02.25Mikk1raw sunscale salmon
10:02.27Mikk1is in hinterlands
10:11.20ckknightI figured out another issue with transferring messages
10:11.24ckknightprofanity filter
10:11.58AnduinLotharwhy would you be transfering profanity?
10:12.12ckknightbecause I fucking feel like it.
10:12.23AnduinLotharthen why does it matter if it's filtered?
10:12.38ckknight*shrug*
10:12.45ckknightjust trying to deal with fringe cases
10:12.49chuckgYou needed more gratuitous swearing in your "feel" sentence in order to convey the message fully.
10:12.49ckknightbut it is unlikely
10:13.12AnduinLotharit's for information, not chat
10:13.26chuckgWhat if the information contains swearing?
10:13.31AnduinLotharunless you put cursign in your GuildEventMaanager messages
10:13.37ckknightright.
10:13.43AnduinLotharand even then it's not gonna break displaying it
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10:13.54AnduinLotharand you're not gonna be parsing it
10:14.10AnduinLotharand special characters need not be filtered
10:14.11ckknightstill, I'm trying to deal with all possible cases
10:14.37AnduinLothari can't think of any cases why it would require special treatent
10:15.27AnduinLotharunless the msg format you choose and your parsing methods are exceptionally poor
10:16.07AnduinLotharand the filte doesn't spit out :()[]{}.,; so i don't see that being a problem
10:16.18AnduinLotharunless you somehow compressed your text
10:16.35AnduinLotharthen you might have to dea with it
10:17.46ckknightI have two possible solutions:
10:17.51ckknightignore it
10:18.00ckknightturn off the profanity filter
10:18.04ckknight:-P
10:18.10AnduinLotharsounds good to me
10:18.12ckknightfirst might be more kosher
10:18.33AnduinLotharor do the 2nd and use a spellchecker to filter it post proccessing
10:18.58ckknightI thought of that, but there could be localization issues
10:19.01ckknightand other stuff
10:19.12ckknightand what if people want it off? how do we know their option
10:19.14AnduinLothari meant  have the user use a spellchecker
10:19.47AnduinLotharlike sarf's spellchecker addon
10:19.55ckknightoh well :-P
10:20.15AnduinLotharfilters incoming msgs too
10:25.39wereHamsterAnduinLothar, could you ask slouken if we get GetUnitRealm() in 1.12? So we can build a checksum out of the raid leader+realm for the group channel name?
10:27.45ckknightwhat should be the standard message throttle time for the Addon Comm Protocol?
10:28.30AnduinLotharGetUnitRealm()?
10:28.43AnduinLotharwhat...
10:28.44ckknightfor cross-realm BGs
10:29.13AnduinLothardepends on how they handle duplicate names in bgs
10:29.22AnduinLotharit's not gonna be anytiem soon
10:29.38ckknightbetter to figure out the situation sooner rather than later
10:29.52ckknightplanning for the future and all that.
10:30.02wereHamstercross-realm BGs are scheduled in 1.12..
10:30.06AnduinLotharfor throttling your guess is as good as mine, i've had a half dozen people spend days testing it and it doesn't seem to be stable enough to calculate
10:30.18ckknightAnduinLothar, what does Sky use?
10:30.19AnduinLotharsomething about all server traffic, not just chat
10:30.29AnduinLothar500 characters per second
10:31.04AnduinLotharcan go on liek that for at least 15-20 messages. after that i haven't tested it
10:31.19ckknightokay
10:31.44AnduinLotharacross all outgoing tho, not jsut the stuff for the comm chat
10:31.58Mikk1hook SendChatMessage ftw
10:32.03AnduinLotharI have a SendChatMessage hook to calculate the cap
10:32.28AnduinLotharand my datagram system handles overflow and requeuing
10:32.39AnduinLotharorder is not garenteed
10:33.02Mikk1oh, it isn't?
10:33.02Mikk1how evil
10:33.10AnduinLotharonyl with sky
10:33.44AnduinLotharbut that's only because the pieces get pieced back together in the right order on the recieving end
10:34.02AnduinLothari could make it in order, but it was easier to impliment this way
10:35.24AnduinLotharmostly because alex did it and i haven't changed it cause it works
10:54.15AnduinLotharnight
11:15.56zespri|homewhat is ;evil twin; debuff?
11:16.04zespri|homea friend of mine just got it
11:16.11zespri|homewill he live?
11:16.12Mikk1nothing
11:16.21Mikk1it's just a debuff you have for a while
11:16.32zespri|homeso it does nothing? what's the point then?
11:16.41Mikk1no idea. in-joke?
11:16.54zespri|homeright
11:16.59zespri|homethanks
11:19.00zespri|homeThis debuff prevents you from being summoned by a Warlock
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11:25.43koomialoha
11:26.24koomii'm looking for a mod that track damage and position and logs them to a file. is something like that around?
11:31.29zenzelezzzespri|home: Thottbot comments seems to suggest the debuff is a byproduct of some engineering transportation thing
11:31.36Mikk1it is
11:31.44Mikk1the question was what it was doing =P
11:31.52zenzelezzoh, right
11:32.03zenzelezzthat's what you get for trying to read while taking apart a monitor
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12:08.29Mikk1hummmmm is there some extra magic that you need to do in order to get .tga files to want to load in a texture?
12:08.55Mikk1SomeTexture:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\EtchASketch\\button-arrow-up.tga"); -> nope
12:11.03Mikk1Hmm maybe it has to be 24 bit
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12:18.07Mikk1morning
12:18.16Cairennyes, yes it is
12:18.24Cairenn~mornings
12:18.31purlMornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)
12:19.00Mikk1Morning: 1. (n) The time at which sensible people go to sleep.
12:19.19CairennI did go to sleep at that time
12:19.27Cairennwhich is why it must now be destroyed
12:19.43Mikk1Ehm you didn't sleep very long now did you
12:19.54Cairenngive the boy a biscuit!
12:20.10Mikk1sheesh, gimme a break. i'm coding =P
12:20.22Cairennleft or right?
12:20.41Cairennarm
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12:20.47Mikk1left
12:20.56Mikk1my left =P
12:21.01Cairennokay
12:21.28Cairenn;)
12:21.57Cairennsorry, I'll take my weirdness away again for a while
12:22.09Mikk1The espresso machine is over there ------------>
12:24.00Cairenndamnit Kirkburn, where the fuck are you?
12:24.29Mikk1haha what'd he do? put your pictures back up again? =P
12:24.59Cairennno, the asswipe who is hassling him decided to just threaten WoWI
12:25.15Mikk1...
12:25.17Cairennmind you, he's a day late and a dollar short, but whatever
12:25.23Cairennnow I'm pissed off
12:25.53Cairenn"The addon "ClearFont" utilizes a copyrighted font, Calibri, which is only available through the beta versions of Microsoft Office 2007 and Microsoft Vista. Microsoft has been known to order cease and desist orders to websites which have any of their copyrighted fonts available for download, which this site does. I have contacted the Microsoft legal department about this issue, but it would be prefereable for
12:26.14CairennObviously the boy hasn't bothered doing his homework
12:26.15Mikk1What is this guy's problem?!
12:26.46CairennClearFont hasn't been available on the site for a week now
12:27.56CairennI pulled it the minute the whole issue became known to me
12:27.58KasoKirkburn was in the wiki like 20min ago, he shouldnt be too far away.
12:29.22zespriwhat's the problem the offending material has been pulled everybody's happy? I mean the guy has issues, this is obvious, but isn'tproblem solved?
12:29.58Cairennzespri: that's just it.  the mod has been pulled from WoWI for a week now, yet *today* he sends me that pm
12:30.26zespriwhy do you care then?
12:30.35Mikk1Cause the guy is an asswipe
12:30.40Mikk1Would do it for me, anyway
12:30.40Cairennbecause I don't appreciate being threatened
12:30.48zesprithis is the exact reason not to care!!!
12:31.15Cairennthis was my response, btw: "This site does, does it?  Give me the link."
12:31.52zespriwell, nobody likes to be threatened, but in this case you can consider it like a mild form of a natural disaster. The good thing that nobody will get hurt
12:32.29Mikk1The mild fluke of nature being that $twerp actually was conceived?
12:32.41Cairennlol
12:34.29zespriI can tell you, these people don;t deserve such attention, so I'd forget the whole thing ASAP so that some od us can stop talking about it and all od us can stop reading about it =)))
12:35.03zespri~lart zespri
12:35.36zespriwhat has it done to me???
12:35.39zespri=)
12:35.52zespritime to go to bed I guess
12:36.01zespriI don't want to go to work tomorrow
12:36.06Cairennnight zespri
12:36.07zespriNo I don't
12:36.12zespribut I have to
12:36.16zespriit's for my own good
12:38.16zespriI thought freenode promised to have all nicks that started from the same alphanum and followed up by a non-alphanum to be identified all the same? like zespri = zespri|home. but this doesn't work
12:38.28Mikk1they say it will
12:38.32Mikk1but not yet
12:38.53Mikk1you still have to register from all the variations and link the nicks
12:40.08zespri|sleepI leveled my cooking from 1 to 100 and my fishing from 1 to 100 today. and bought the deviate delight recepie oFF AH from 15G
12:41.33Mikk1Meh. I grinded for mine.
12:41.40Mikk1Took me several days of running around killing piggies in barrens
12:41.50zespri|sleepyou were lucky
12:41.57Mikk1(At 60, with a killrate of about 1 every 2s)
12:41.58zespri|sleepseveral days is a good result
12:42.07zespri|sleepright
12:42.15Mikk1Nah, i checked the statistics. I was slightly unlucky but not overly so.
12:42.28Mikk1We're talking tens of thousands dead piggies here
12:42.35zespri|sleepnow tell me how you got dragon whelping pet just in a few days =)
12:42.52Mikk1No, I can't kill one of those every 2 seconds =P
12:43.08Cairennrofl, shall I tell you how my Mom got 10 in 3 days?
12:43.17Mikk1O.O
12:43.21CairennI sat here with my jaw hanging open
12:43.32CairennIt's like, geeeezus Mom, lucky much?
12:43.45Cairenncouldn't frigging believe it
12:44.02Mikk1"Oh, I kept getting so many. I started throwing them away."
12:44.03zespri|sleepwell if she posesed some secret info from blizz or had some blizz flagged acount =)
12:44.42Mikk1Ah. That's the secret. WoW refuses to load bitmaps smaller than 16x16 it seems
12:44.45Cairennall the time I've been playing, I've never seen one drop
12:45.31zespri|sleepwell if you didn't kill a weloing in your life that wouldn;t surprise me and that's not you can't play wow without killing then
12:45.33zespri|sleepthem
12:45.49zespri|sleepI mean I never grinded this area much
12:46.04CairennI killed them lots
12:46.12zespri|sleepso It doesn't surprise me that I haven't seen them drop, although I play from almost day one
12:47.59zespri|sleepoh I got an idea
12:48.30zespri|sleepyou talked about this guy harasing you, so I'll tell you my story (same pointless) =)
12:48.39zespri|sleepI was fishing in thunder bluff, right
12:48.46zespri|sleepand then this guy came around
12:49.17zespri|sleephe started jumping all over my bopper trying to make it hard for me to click on it when it splashes
12:49.18Cairennzespri|sleep: you're supposed to be sleeping ;)
12:50.00Mikk1there's always people that do that
12:50.02zespri|sleepSo I just ignored him. Like I though, if he gets too persistent I can find another lake. So I kept fishing and he kept jumping
12:50.22zespri|sleepthen it was not enough for him, and he started telling me how fishing sucks
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12:50.45ag`Mikma, are you there?
12:50.58Mikmaag`: ya
12:51.06zespri|sleepwhen I didn't answer he started telling me how I suck, what kind of bastared (?!!) I am and fu.
12:51.13Cairennlol
12:51.22ag`did you try my addon, Mikma?
12:51.27Mikk1That's when I reply "13?"
12:51.33Mikk1And when I get "huh?" back, I try "12?"
12:51.35Mikmaag`: not since the "minigroup2" error ;)
12:51.45ag`Mikma: svn update :-)
12:52.06Mikmayeah i'll give it a go now
12:52.14Cairennzespri|sleep: and then?
12:52.32ag`You should check out AceOO, it's quite cool
12:52.46zespri|sleepthat's it. He got bored soon and leaft and I pressed the big question mark button. end of story
12:52.54Cairennheh
12:53.23zespri|sleepthat will happen to your guy to, Cairenn
12:53.29zespri|sleepJust don't engage =)
12:53.37Mikmaag`: yeah that's what everyone keeps telling me
12:54.02CairennI'm not worried about it, I took the appropriate steps as soon as the issue became known to me
12:54.24ag`Well to use AceOO you need a situation where it makes sense to use OO, but it's great for a unit frame addon
12:54.24zespri|sleepI wonder if old TotemStomper addon cast totem if this totem is already there...
12:54.40CairennI'm just annoyed that he decided to try to threaten us, without bothering to do any homework
12:55.47Mikmaag`: btw how do i remove the normal blizzard frames? ;)
12:56.46zespri|sleepCairenn, I think it shouldn;t annoy you, you should rather get some satisfaction from this prove that he is not just an arsewipe, but not good even at this
12:57.02Mikmaag`: clique support! argh! need need!
12:57.33Cairennzespri|sleep: part of the reason it annoyed me was due to the fact that I'd just woken up and haven't had near enough sleep as of yet
12:58.39zespri|sleepCairenn this is good as. Now you reached me =) No really, I'm awfull early at mornings as well, I know exactly what you are talking about
12:58.45Mikmaag`: and, seems like the frames won't update at all
12:59.33Cairennzespri|sleep: if you scroll up to just above where our conversation started, you'll see what I mean
12:59.50Cairenn(if your buffer goes back far enough)
13:02.12zespri|sleepCairenn, for example, I git annoyed at Mikk1 although it's not morning, when he tried to teach me to use thottbot when I asked about something completely different. Now, I know, it's not his fault he genuinely wanted to help me, I probably wasn't explicit enuough as to what I was trying to find out, but still I was annoyed. This is the harmful influence of mornings, it can reach you even if it's already late at night!!!
13:02.30Cairenn*chuckle*
13:02.54Cairennif it's late enough at night, it's actually technically morning ;)
13:03.06zespri|sleep1am
13:03.11Cairennmorning
13:03.31Mikk1zespri|sleep: I take it you missed the bit where I told you to click on the zone names beneath the fish then? =P
13:03.50zespri|sleepI clicked, and it just displayed the aone map!
13:04.00Mikk1Ehm
13:04.09Mikk1Must have been the wrong column then
13:04.27Mikk1Ah, yeah, you need to click e.g. "Verdantis River Fishing"
13:04.33Mikk1Which gets you the drops in that subzone
13:04.42zespri|sleepcan you send me the link? as an example?
13:05.13Mikk1Fishy: http://www.thottbot.com/?i=10300  "Verdantis River Fishing": http://www.thottbot.com/?n=68459
13:06.02Mikk1It is also better to say if you're getting annoyed, since you may have misunderstood something =)
13:06.07ag`Mikma
13:06.16ag`I have just added code to hide blizzard frames
13:06.17zespri|sleepright. see what you mean now. sorry. still not the easiest to use system =)
13:06.23ag`It's not on the SVN yet
13:06.23Mikk1(Or someone might suck at explaining >.<)
13:06.27ag`and frames should update fine
13:06.30ag`they do here
13:06.31Mikk1zespri|sleep: nope, not at all =/
13:06.37Mikmaag`: didn't on me :(
13:06.53ag`let me commit to the SVN
13:12.12Cairennsweet dreams zespri|sleep
13:16.22Gngskag`, frames aren't updating on my site either
13:17.11Gngsks/site/side/
13:18.55ag`I'll check it out asap
13:19.04ag`just doing some quests with my brothers ^_^
13:19.20ag`brother, I mean
13:19.47Gngsknp, just lettin' ya know it's not just Mikma
13:20.21ag`Pretty strange though
13:20.24ag`seems to work fine here
13:21.30Mikmadelete your config and try again :D
13:22.24GngskMikma, I did a fresh checkout
13:23.36MikmaGngsk: sorry, was talking to ag` :)
13:23.58Mikmayeah, tried the new version from SVN and doesn't update
13:24.05Gngskahh, k
13:24.24ag`o_O it's works fine here and I register the events ok :P
13:24.25Mikmaag`: and how can i now disable the blizzard frames? :P
13:24.41ag`if you updated with SVN they should be hidden from default
13:24.52Mikmaoh yeah right they are
13:24.58Mikmabut the update ain't working at all
13:25.14Mikmahealth/mana/energy
13:25.15ag`yeah
13:25.21ag`pretty strange
13:25.25GngskI also noticed the pet frame, my imp was a mage and it didn't have a name
13:25.30Mikmaag`: and! please please add clique support xD
13:25.35ag`Yes, I will
13:25.58Mikmapartyframes would be nice to have too :D
13:26.32ag`yeah they're on their way
13:26.49ag`it should be pretty easy for me to add them soon due to nice OO stuff
13:26.50Mikmacan't live without clique + party ;)
13:26.54ag`Yep
13:27.00ag`I love click casting too
13:27.35Mikmabug clad|sleep when you have the frames done and onclick working ;)
13:28.08ag`yeah:-)
13:29.33Mikmahey, can anyone teach me how to make a hidden frame which will hide all that i dock in it? (CreateFrame)
13:31.32Mikk1CreateFrame()
13:31.34Mikk1There, done.
13:31.53Mikk1f=CreateFrame(); f:Hide(). even
13:31.58Mikk1Since they start out shown
13:32.12zenzelezzarf... I hate getting hit for more than my max health
13:32.19Mikmaok. now how do i dock ie ActionButton1-12 to it and have them hidden as well
13:32.40Mikmasince i do have a createframe function already in my addon but i need a hidden frame which won't show anything that's docked in it
13:32.50Mikk1ActionButton1:SetParent(f); ActionButton2:Set.....
13:33.06Mikk1Or you could just run around and hide those actionbuttons
13:33.11Mikk1Which would strike me as more sane
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13:33.40Mikmawell my problem now is PetActionButtons. Blizzards UI will always show them by default eventho i hide them (on /console reloadui and on login)
13:34.05Mikmai don't wan't to hook any functions etc, so i was wondering if there would be a way to dock them in a invisible frame and make them hidden as well
13:34.23Mikk1Why don't you want to hook any functions?
13:34.30Mikmabecause i suck at it
13:34.37Mikk1Seems a lot more sane to me to go and find the function that shows them all and just hook it
13:35.08ckknightI agree
13:35.24Mikmawell help me do it then :(
13:35.25ckknightas I said a while ago
13:35.34Mikk1http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_a_Function
13:35.34ckknightfirst step: find the function that shows it
13:35.38Mikmayes you did but i hope you understand it's hard on me
13:35.59Mikk1http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_functions_in_a_safer_way
13:36.02ckknightto do this, you need to extract the framexml files with blizzard's tool
13:36.10Mikmadone it
13:36.24Mikmai know the 3-4 functions which are nasty for PetActionButtons
13:36.26ckknightfind the function that shows the frame
13:36.28ckknightokay
13:36.32ckknightlist their names.
13:36.39ckknightwell, at least one
13:36.47Mikmai'll pastebin them
13:37.43ckknightokay
13:37.54Mikk1Put "function ShowPetActionBar() end" in your mod
13:38.00Mikk1Just that in a single line
13:38.01Mikk1Should do it
13:38.09MikmaMikk1: nope didn't do it i tried that already
13:38.19ckknightpastebin.
13:38.46Mikmahttp://pastebin.ca/83209
13:38.54Mikmathere, those 4 nasty functions
13:39.03Mikk1"function PetActionBarFrame_OnUpdate() end" also
13:39.08ckknightor:
13:39.12Mikmaif i clear them all then there will be problems
13:39.29ckknightfunction PetActionBarFrame:Show() end
13:39.30Mikmalike updating the petbar when pet comes to alive or after using the buttons
13:39.37ckknight;-)
13:39.46Mikk1ckknight: aye probably works too =P
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13:39.52Mikk1More fool proof
13:40.02ckknightMikma, do function PetActionBarFrame:Show() end
13:40.06ckknightsee how it fares for you
13:40.19Mikmaok will test it now, takes a while to mod the code
13:42.08ckknightmost of the issues involved in hooking are related to either unhooking or improper argument/return passing
13:42.30Mikk1and unhooking is basically "forget it"
13:43.12ckknightMikk1, that's not true
13:43.24Mikmammkay, now the whole petbar is gone
13:43.30ckknightAceHook-2.0 handles it very smoothly
13:43.42Mikmackknight: how to get it back now?
13:44.00Mikk1Except AceHook still can't unhook itself if some other addon does a raw hook after it's done it =)
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13:44.18ckknightit properly deactivates, though, Mikk1
13:44.26ckknightMikma, well, since it inherits its method: PetActionBarFrame.Show = nil
13:44.32ckknightso in a sense, it is unhooking
13:44.39ckknightor at least acts like it's unhooking
13:44.42Mikmaok great, will try it
13:44.44ckknighthas the same effect, at least
13:45.08ckknightMikma, that only works for objects that inherit, such as frames
13:45.29Mikmackknight: well the buttons and frames are now the problem so this suits nicely
13:45.51Mikk1Did you not want to hide the whole petbar?
13:46.14Mikmaok one question. i just use function PetActionBarFrame:Show() end <- to hide the bar and when i wan't to unhide it i will do only PetActionBarFrame.Show = nil ?
13:46.33Mikk1Hrm
13:46.39Mikk1You want to toggle this on and off?
13:46.43Mikmayeah
13:46.51Mikk1If so, do this: function DummyFunction() end;
13:46.58Mikk1To hide: PetActionBarFrame.Show = DummyFunction
13:47.03Mikk1To show: PetActionBarFrame.Show = nil
13:47.17Mikmaok, i'll try
13:47.43ag`Mikma, do you btw have the Ace2 folder as a standalone?
13:47.49ag`in your interface
13:47.50Mikmaag`: no
13:47.57ag`ok, good
13:48.18Mikmamy pet is unknown, which was told here before :D
13:48.33ckknightMikma, PetActionBarFrame.Show = nil; PetActionBarFrame:Show()
13:50.07sweedehey Mikk1.
13:50.17Mikk1morning
13:50.34sweedefyi, to asnwer your question yesterday, no it wasnt money ;)
13:50.55Mikmahmm somehow it didn't work
13:51.46Mikmawell now it did
13:51.58Mikmahad to put PetActionBarFrame:Hide() in there too of course
13:51.59sweedei was dragged away from my computer last night when we were talkin about how to get the name of the item when you alt+left clicked on it..
13:52.40Mikmaok that leaves me wondering that do i even need hooking with PetActionBarFrame
13:53.19Mikmaand seems like i don't :)
13:57.39sweedeis there anywhere that hosts the default blizzard lua/xml files from the interface online that i can browse  ?
13:57.54Mikmathanks everyone, seems to work nicely without hooking now since you said the *BarFrame:Show()
13:58.50Mikmaare there any other BarFrames than PetAction and Shapeshift?
13:59.38Mikk1dozens and dozens
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14:00.18Mikmammkay, i could need the names for all actionbars + bagbag and microbar. you think i could find them from Blizzard Interface Data=
14:02.35sweedeman, why doesnt LootFrame.selectedSlot work ?
14:03.02Mikk1no idea. i'm using it
14:03.17Mikk1for triggering another DKP mod with alt+click in the lootframe =)
14:03.42sweedesays that the usage for GetLootSlotLink is wrong..
14:03.58Mikk1do message(LootFrame.selectedSlot)
14:04.46Mikk1ohwait
14:04.52Mikk1you need to call the original handler first
14:04.58sweede..
14:05.01Mikk1that's what sets .selectedSlot
14:05.16sweedeso i'd have,
14:05.17sweedefunction SYN_LootFrameItem_OnClick(button)
14:05.17sweedeOld_LootFrameItem_OnClick(button)
14:05.28Mikk1ShowJust Bloody Work then
14:05.33Mikk1Should Just
14:05.42Mikk1kerhm
14:06.05sweede....
14:06.08sweedeyou think thats bad..
14:06.10sweedei just noticed..
14:06.16sweedelootName = GetLootSlotLink(GetLootSlotLink(LootFrame.selectedSlot));
14:06.21sweedelet me fix that real quick...
14:06.27Mikk1ow =P
14:06.57sweedethat was almost as retarded as this lvl 8 warlock asking me for 10g..
14:07.26sweedeleet, that works now :D
14:08.55Mikmaseems like there's no frame for ActionButton1-12 .. only MainMenuBar which will hide all
14:09.02sweedenow, i think what i need to do next, is that our guild uses master looter for handing out boss loot. my dkp addon announcers the winner of the loot. if they alt+left click to start the bid, i shouldnt have an issue in assigning the winner the loot from the addon...
14:11.15Mikk1totally doable
14:11.24Mikk1remember that you need to be able to start bids from inventory too though
14:11.37Mikk1and from e.g. The Cache of the Firelord
14:11.49Mikk1This is where it gets fun
14:11.53sweedethat isnt a loot frame ?
14:12.14Mikk1It is
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14:47.11Mikk1Okay... how the hell do you unpack a table that starts with a couple of nils?
14:47.51ckknight_pretty easy
14:47.59ckknight_it deals with lua's concept of n
14:48.05ckknight_as in table.getn and table.setn
14:48.19Mikk1i'm doing table.setn() on it
14:48.21Mikk1it's not DTRTing
14:48.35ckknight_aside from being stored in a separate table, it can also be optionally stored on the table itself
14:48.55ckknight_{nil, nil, 'hey', n = 3}
14:49.03Mikk1the original table looks fine after the setn. if i loop from 1 to getn and print stuff, i see the first members as nil
14:49.16Mikk1but then if i do t2 = { unpack(t) };
14:49.18Mikk1t2 doesn't look so hot
14:49.40ckknight_and if you do t.n = 3?
14:49.48ckknight_or what the length is
14:50.14Mikk1.... bleh
14:50.22Mikk1yeah, i have to explicitly set n on the unpacked result
14:50.40Mikk1which is kinda hard since i'm RETURNING unpack(t) out of a function
14:51.32KasoWill ClearTarget() TargetLastTarget() lose rogues combos or not
14:52.45ckknight_not
14:53.10Kasocool
14:53.52sweedewhat handler is the bag/inventory frame? i found BagSlotButton_OnClick but it doesnt seem to be it.
14:57.00ckknight_~emulate swedish chef
14:57.03purlYorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!
14:57.59Cairenn~emulate Beeker
14:59.26ckknight_~emulate beaker
14:59.28purlACTION meeps
14:59.35Cairenn:p
15:00.47Mikk1~emulate animal
15:00.48purl*Ba-boom TISH!*
15:00.54CairennRARR
15:03.06Mikk1sweede: http://pastebin.ca/83241
15:04.25sweedeI think i'll pass.. hehe
15:04.38Mikk1Wait, i'll yank all the stuff
15:05.06sweedewell, i see what its doing and what i need to do.. but man...
15:05.07sweedeheh
15:05.13sweedeand i already moved on from that idea...
15:06.46sweedei would paste my dkp auction code, but i dont want you guys to get sick :x  :)
15:06.51Mikk1sweede: http://pastebin.ca/83242
15:07.15Mikk1that's enough to start your bid
15:07.30Mikk1no logic for giving stuff away though
15:07.47Mikk1my mod does that.. and it even starts running after people that's out of trading ranges and autotrades when it gets in range =)
15:08.00sweedeinteresting.
15:08.08Mikk1oh, and whispers to them to bloody stand still =P
15:08.17sweedelol
15:08.54sweedea guy in my previous guild modified whisper me not to reply that the person is out of range.. we had some.. off remarks, for those people that sent like, ai tells and where not even in the zoen yet :)
15:09.05sweedenot whisperme not, whispercast...
15:09.10sweedei dont know what i was thinkin there.
15:12.24sweedehmm.. ok, it seems that my all in one inventory addon is allowing my hook to work..
15:13.22Mikk1some of them are nice that way
15:13.23Mikk1most aren't
15:15.20sweedenow time for a titan plugin......
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15:23.52Cairennhey Tem
15:29.14sweedeanyone ever make a titan panel plugin ?
15:44.46Mikma~whaleslap sweede
15:44.48purlACTION beats sweede upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
15:44.58Atreolol
15:47.25sweedeits amazing how much of the problems i have in modifying and making simple addons, all comes down to a missing letter in the folder name v.s. the toc name.
15:48.53zenzelezzwhen you're sitting there wondering why your add-on is hardlocking WoW, you'll wish it was just a typo-error
15:49.01sweedehehe
15:49.39zespri|sleepif I have OnKeyDown in a button, is it possible to let the even through somehow so that default keybinding has chanse to work?
15:49.40sweedewell, for me its simple.. i'll make a while loop and forget to put like x = x+1 in it or something....
15:50.10ag`we all make those damn errors, I hate them too
15:50.15ag`everyone's human
15:51.04Mikk1Except KarlKFI. I hear he can even fold car maps.
15:51.26Mikk1Ah damn, he's not here. No fun =/
15:51.27Mikma*shocked*
15:53.57Mikk1Hrmmmm.. When can you start doing GetWidth() on widgets?
15:54.09sweedeman, if you could ban people for begging for gold, there'd be no one left on the server..
15:54.16Mikk1PLAYER_LOGIN is obviously too early =(
15:54.26Mikk1PEW probably
15:54.28Mikk1>.<
15:54.43Cairennokay, time for this chicky to go nap in the sun
15:54.49Mikk1Good plan
15:55.02CideMikk1: first OnUpdate, I believe
15:55.12Mikk1bleh. that's late as hell.
15:55.21Cideyep
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15:57.13sweedenow i need to add a right click method too titan panel and im all good !
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17:38.49purlanduinlothar <n=karl@adsl-67-122-137-138.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 44m 34s ago, saying: 'night'.
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17:45.17[Wobin]yeah, it's a bit irritating =P
17:45.34Cairennespecially when you are in multiple channels with him
17:46.08Shadowedwell, can't he not seeing you complaining about it anyway since he's AFK? :p
17:46.37Cairennhe'll see it when he gets back, besides which, he'll also see it when I smack him upside the head :p
17:47.08Shadowedfair enough
17:47.20Cidepurl sigh Annoying away messages
17:47.21purlACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Annoying away messages!"
17:48.14Cideseriously though, it's pretty unnecessary given his nick change
17:48.37ShadowedI'd rather know if he's sleeping or working anyway, should be more specific
17:48.49Shadowednobody ever goes AFK right after they say they are going to sleep!
17:49.08Cairennheh
17:51.41ShadowedBlizzard actually did a pretty good job with the "Surviving PVP" page, it's actually accurate
17:52.09[Wobin]Do they offer support groups?
17:52.21Shadowedhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/survivingpvp.html
17:52.21[Wobin](oy that was tacky)
17:52.36Shadowed"Of course it won't work against heartless killers with no sense of humor =["
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18:04.05Kaso"Invisibility Potions can help you sneak up on the enemy or escape" <3 I wouldnt go anywhere without them.
18:05.29zenziowow, this match is exciting so far
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18:19.50[Wobin]who's winning?
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18:56.23Temafternoon
18:58.22SatrinaHiya Tem
19:16.27cladhairehey Tem
19:16.41Temcladhaire, Satrina, hiyas
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19:29.41ckknighthey all
19:30.11Cairennhi ckknight
20:00.14Temwhat a bad time to DC
20:00.22TemI have 17 Dust Stormers attacking me...
20:00.31AnduinLotharonly 17?
20:00.39TemI'm not done rounding them up
20:00.42AnduinLotharTem, you could take AT LEAST 20
20:00.53Temthere's not usually more than 18 or 19 spawned at a time
20:00.59AnduinLotharjust use your "Crash" debuff
20:01.06Temwith dampen magic, I can take as many as will spawn
20:01.09Temthey hit me for 1
20:01.28ThraeMmm, Damage Shields.
20:02.18AnduinLotharwell blizzard saw that you were having too easy of a time... so they interviened..
20:04.05ThraeI wonder how long until we get a game as fun as WoW with an underlying AI to create events and change the look of the world.
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20:56.10ckknightThrae, it could be done, all it needs are some rules to set down
20:56.27ckknightI think ecological or seasonal change of the landscape would be totally pimp, though
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22:22.46Atreois it possible to call the function that targets the nearest mob when you press attack?
22:23.16wereHamsterTargetNearestEnemy() ?
22:23.46Atreothanks
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22:25.26zespri_workI hate myself and wanna die. I went to bed at 4:30 and now I desperately want to sleep
22:25.52zespri_workmornings ftl
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22:37.22esp|Synok, im stuck here
22:37.43esp|Synim writing a mod to store pvp deaths, storing the information on the killer
22:37.56esp|Synlike htsData[realm][player].battles[vname].race
22:38.16esp|Synbut i have no idea how to get that information back into a frame
22:38.50AnduinLotharyou can't without doign a /who on the name fromt he chat log text
22:39.04AnduinLotharor storing it on every player you mouseover in the bg
22:39.17AnduinLotharor target
22:39.22AnduinLotharbefore they die
22:40.03AnduinLotharand /who wont work on the oppositte faction actually
22:40.14esp|Synhrm
22:40.19AnduinLotharso you'd have to store from mouseovers and targets
22:40.31esp|Syni store via targets
22:40.36esp|Syni can get it to store the info
22:40.48esp|Syni just dont know how to load it back into a frame
22:41.22esp|Syni mean.. the example loads per line ( line 2, line 2 ect )
22:41.22AnduinLotharstore it ina  table
22:41.51esp|Synhrm not looked at tables
22:45.50Shadowedesp|Syn: Are you trying to do world PVP or Battleground PVP deaths?
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22:47.22AnduinLotharIf i have a trinket ont he cursor do PickupInventoryItem(i) and EquipCursorItem(i) do the same thing?
22:47.38AnduinLotharor any item really
22:48.12AnduinLotharor does 1 put it ont he cursor and the other swaps location with the othe rone
22:49.42Shadowedcan find out, sec
22:50.49ScytheBlade1Does FastCast still work with WoW? The latest version is for 1.10.2
22:51.26ShadowedPickupInventoryItem puts the slot ID onto the cursor, and EquipCursorItem equips the item on the cursor into the slot ID
22:51.41Shadowed*the item thats on your character in the slot ID passed
22:51.56AnduinLotharunless you picked it up from the other inv slot, then they do the same thing
22:52.50ShadowedYeah, if you have an item from your inventory on the cursor then they do the same thing
22:56.24zespri_workScythBlade1 EasyCast works, not sure about FastCast
23:01.54AnduinLotharoi.. this wardrobe outfit equip code is rediculous
23:02.28AnduinLotharesp for the slots that have multiple, trinket#2, offhand, ring#2
23:02.47AnduinLotharhave to hand every possible combination of swaps
23:03.08Shadowed"Summary" for editing a page on the Wiki is what you changed on a page if you edit it?
23:03.12AnduinLotharjust found out it fails if trinket 1 moves to trinket 2 and a new one is put in trinket 2
23:03.25AnduinLotharyes
23:03.33AnduinLotharSummary == Change Log
23:04.32ShadowedAnd i'm guessing changing the arguments to a function is considered a minor edit? ( it's correct on the actual page but not the listing for it )
23:04.48AnduinLotharno, that's not minor
23:04.58AnduinLotharminor is liek a spellign error
23:05.05AnduinLotharor slight rephrase
23:05.14AnduinLotharargument diff is content change
23:05.27AnduinLotharbut i spose it'
23:05.36AnduinLothars all subjective
23:05.43Shadowedalright, thanks.
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