| 00:00.06 | JoshBorke | ok, i'm in |
| 00:00.13 | bieZt | guys can you help me load a custom library for ace in ? |
| 00:00.15 | cladhaire | as a preest |
| 00:00.17 | cladhaire | zomg |
| 00:00.19 | bieZt | how do i do it ? |
| 00:00.22 | cladhaire | PVE or PVP? |
| 00:00.27 | JoshBorke | PvE |
| 00:00.29 | cladhaire | woot |
| 00:00.32 | cladhaire | horde or alliance? |
| 00:00.35 | JoshBorke | alliance |
| 00:00.41 | cladhaire | i'll meet you at southshore =) |
| 00:00.50 | JoshBorke | ok |
| 00:00.54 | cladhaire | i'm cladhaire |
| 00:00.57 | cladhaire | oddly enough =) |
| 00:01.00 | JoshBorke | send a tell to dagh |
| 00:02.08 | AnduinLothar | lol, thott just called me an asshole, it must be true |
| 00:02.19 | Kirkburn1 | heh, why? |
| 00:02.20 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Hrm.. i'd tend to agree with him |
| 00:02.23 | cladhaire | only he hasn't met me =) |
| 00:02.34 | AnduinLothar | i'm not even sure lol |
| 00:02.43 | AnduinLothar | prolly too demanding of him |
| 00:02.53 | ckknight_ | isn't thott an asshole, though? |
| 00:03.14 | AnduinLothar | not really, just a busy business man |
| 00:03.18 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:03.19 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:03.31 | MentalPower | lol |
| 00:03.32 | ckknight | doesn't he obfuscate his code? |
| 00:03.43 | AnduinLothar | like i said, business man |
| 00:03.44 | MentalPower | yes, he does |
| 00:03.49 | ckknight | see, asshole. |
| 00:03.54 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 00:04.01 | MentalPower | one of only two people that do it |
| 00:04.06 | ckknight | there is no good reason to do that. |
| 00:04.07 | MentalPower | (that I know of) |
| 00:04.13 | ckknight | MentalPower, who's the other? |
| 00:04.16 | MentalPower | the other being a little known raid addon |
| 00:04.17 | AnduinLothar | he's protecting his interests |
| 00:04.23 | MentalPower | I can't remember the name ATM |
| 00:04.30 | AnduinLothar | there's plenty of competition adn he was first and makes money |
| 00:04.45 | AnduinLothar | i'm not saying i agree, jsut thta i understand the motivation |
| 00:05.20 | cladhaire | i'd bet money i could obfuscate it better =) |
| 00:05.27 | cladhaire | i should take it and release it. |
| 00:05.30 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:05.31 | AnduinLothar | it's not sposed to be perfect |
| 00:05.50 | AnduinLothar | it's sposed to be easy for him and a deterant |
| 00:05.58 | cladhaire | I know =) |
| 00:06.03 | ckknight | yea, by running luacc and then using that, you could make some damn obfuscated code |
| 00:06.11 | cladhaire | its nothing more than map protection in wc3 |
| 00:06.13 | cladhaire | same deal :P |
| 00:06.15 | cladhaire | different method |
| 00:07.26 | MentalPower | hey clad, how's your SV compression code comming along? |
| 00:07.45 | AnduinLothar | Anyone wanna test PartyQuests/Telepathy/Telepathy-Versions on test with me? |
| 00:08.04 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, sure, I'm not busy. |
| 00:08.13 | AnduinLothar | let me package it up |
| 00:08.23 | ckknight | email it to ckknight at gmail |
| 00:08.31 | AnduinLothar | ill host it |
| 00:08.42 | ckknight | works |
| 00:09.12 | cladhaire | MentalPower: I made a bynch of conclusions on it. |
| 00:09.23 | cladhaire | MentalPower: Most being that there isn't a good general localized all purpose solution =) |
| 00:10.01 | MentalPower | fun |
| 00:10.12 | ckknight | lemme make sure I'm up to date |
| 00:10.29 | cladhaire | MentalPower: And lookign at your SV made me cry |
| 00:10.38 | cladhaire | I dont know there's much I can do for you, with the way the data's already stored. |
| 00:11.08 | MentalPower | gripes, that bad eh? |
| 00:11.26 | cladhaire | heheh yeah worse than you know =) |
| 00:11.48 | bieZt | any1 ever uses MarsMessageParser ? or has used it ? |
| 00:12.14 | MentalPower | I'm open to suggestions |
| 00:12.40 | Cairenn | is that you Bep? |
| 00:13.16 | ckknight | bieZt, boo. |
| 00:13.23 | bieZt | y it's me :) |
| 00:13.23 | ckknight | Deformat ftw. |
| 00:13.34 | Cairenn | so, why the name change? |
| 00:13.38 | bieZt | bep was registered as nick O_o |
| 00:13.47 | Cairenn | didn't you register it? |
| 00:13.57 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, k, I'm up. PvE or PvP? |
| 00:14.04 | bieZt | nope |
| 00:14.07 | Cairenn | ah |
| 00:14.16 | ckknight | and allies or Horde? |
| 00:14.20 | AnduinLothar | pve |
| 00:14.23 | AnduinLothar | alliance |
| 00:14.27 | Cairenn | so, why back to the same starting question? |
| 00:14.45 | bieZt | because i've looked at Glory2 |
| 00:14.48 | AnduinLothar | go grab some quests |
| 00:14.50 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, got your addons zipped up yet? |
| 00:14.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:15.00 | bieZt | but it has a lot of dependencies ... |
| 00:15.20 | AnduinLothar | i haven't made the embedded version so you get all the deps sepperately :) |
| 00:15.28 | ckknight | alright |
| 00:16.20 | AnduinLothar | http://macblackdeath.no-ip.com/PartyQuestsTest.zip |
| 00:17.23 | AnduinLothar | and for anyone who wants some silly: http://macblackdeath.no-ip.com/BloodElfMagePissed6.wav |
| 00:18.03 | Kirkburn1 | haha |
| 00:18.27 | Kirkburn1 | Where'd you get that?? |
| 00:18.36 | AnduinLothar | extracted from war3 |
| 00:19.13 | Kirkburn1 | Got any more? :) |
| 00:20.31 | ckknight | as I extract Chronos, I feel myself dying a little inside. |
| 00:22.02 | AnduinLothar | hater |
| 00:22.26 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 00:22.30 | ckknight | I know you love me |
| 00:22.33 | ckknight | deep down |
| 00:23.34 | ckknight | hehe, AnduinLothar, it broke |
| 00:23.49 | AnduinLothar | of course it did, cause i sent the package to you without testing it |
| 00:23.54 | AnduinLothar | what error? |
| 00:24.17 | ckknight | Satelitte.lua:799: attempt to index global `v' (a nil value) |
| 00:25.03 | AnduinLothar | wonder why i didn't get that one |
| 00:25.38 | AnduinLothar | obvious bug, funny it didn't trigger here.. |
| 00:25.59 | ckknight | lol, found a weird bug in PartyQuests |
| 00:26.05 | AnduinLothar | ok line 799 and 800 |
| 00:26.10 | AnduinLothar | change id.v to chatType |
| 00:26.25 | ckknight | I was clicking some stuff on my quest, and now I have two panels overlapping |
| 00:26.43 | AnduinLothar | do you have any other addons loaded? |
| 00:27.10 | ckknight | no, just your stuff |
| 00:27.23 | AnduinLothar | two panels being |
| 00:27.33 | ckknight | Quest Log and something behind it |
| 00:27.44 | ckknight | reloaded, no error this time |
| 00:27.49 | ckknight | what's your name in-game? |
| 00:27.58 | AnduinLothar | stockpally and stocklock |
| 00:28.12 | AnduinLothar | yours? |
| 00:28.28 | ckknight | imaginitively, Ckknight |
| 00:30.08 | Kirkburn1 | zomg, with a capital letter! |
| 00:30.41 | Kirkburn | No worries, I've swapped to my other body :) |
| 00:40.03 | Gandraw | does lua have a modulo operator? |
| 00:40.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:40.32 | ckknight | math.mod(x,y) |
| 00:40.50 | kergoth | happily they made it % in 5.1, not that it helps us in wow |
| 00:41.03 | ckknight | do they have // though? |
| 00:41.07 | ckknight | that'd be handy |
| 00:41.24 | ckknight | (truncated division) |
| 00:41.35 | ckknight | a la, 5 // 2 == 2 |
| 00:42.57 | kergoth | hmm dont think so |
| 00:43.11 | ckknight | sad :-P |
| 00:43.46 | ckknight | basically, it's just math.floor(5 / 2) == 2 |
| 00:44.51 | kergoth | syntactic sugar |
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| 00:48.27 | JoshBorke | couple of things: |
| 00:48.36 | JoshBorke | 1) the new healthbars are really nice |
| 00:48.53 | ckknight | JoshBorke, in? |
| 00:49.02 | JoshBorke | 2) can i safely delete blizzard folders i don't need in th addons folder? ie RaidUI |
| 00:49.11 | JoshBorke | ckknight: 1.12 |
| 00:49.14 | Cairenn | it'll just re-create |
| 00:49.29 | JoshBorke | blech |
| 00:49.33 | Cairenn | delete all you want, it'll keep re-creating |
| 00:49.47 | JoshBorke | then why does it hang around? :-( |
| 00:50.51 | Kirkburn | Cos there's no need to delete them? |
| 00:52.05 | JoshBorke | they clutter my folder! |
| 00:52.16 | Kirkburn | omg, noooo |
| 00:52.21 | JoshBorke | i have all these pretty green checkmarks |
| 00:52.25 | JoshBorke | and then the ugly blizzard folders |
| 00:52.25 | Kirkburn | Must be awful for you =) |
| 00:52.51 | JoshBorke | i just don't know if i have the will to go on... |
| 00:52.55 | Kirkburn | Why don't you make them pretty too? |
| 00:53.36 | JoshBorke | because toitoiseSVN won't let me |
| 00:55.25 | Cide | heh, SPELLS_CHANGED fires a lot |
| 00:56.04 | cladhaire | SPELL_LEARNED_IN_TAB ftw =) |
| 00:56.41 | Cide | is that fired when a player learns a new spell? |
| 00:56.47 | cladhaire | yep =) |
| 00:57.05 | cladhaire | or whatever that is.. i think that's right tho =) |
| 00:57.06 | Cide | heh, that's not even listed on wowwiki |
| 00:57.25 | Cide | thanks |
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| 00:58.42 | cladhaire | do i lie? |
| 00:58.45 | cladhaire | i swear that's somewhere. |
| 00:58.47 | Cide | dunno |
| 00:58.47 | cladhaire | gimme a second :P |
| 00:59.07 | Cairenn | *asks Trag* |
| 00:59.51 | cladhaire | LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB is what i use |
| 00:59.54 | cladhaire | or did |
| 01:00.03 | cladhaire | haha, and it exists =) |
| 01:00.21 | Cide | ah, that's awesome |
| 01:00.29 | Cide | thanks |
| 01:01.25 | bieZt | hmmm .... i got the add-on working with MarsMessageParser :) |
| 01:01.27 | JoshBorke | hrmph, i'm supposed to be working on my mod... |
| 01:01.33 | Cairenn | grats |
| 01:02.01 | bieZt | btw is there any page to look up events and which variables they contain ? |
| 01:02.27 | bieZt | i found a api event page, but it doesn't say all variables .. |
| 01:02.39 | bieZt | so that i can parse more data with Mars xD |
| 01:03.20 | Cide | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
| 01:03.26 | Cide | the best there is |
| 01:10.06 | bieZt | cool |
| 01:10.23 | bieZt | can i parse anything with MarsMessageParser ? |
| 01:11.32 | Kirkburn | G'night one and all! |
| 01:11.48 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
| 01:12.21 | Kirkburn | Toodles! |
| 01:20.37 | bieZt | anyone ever wrote a script wich makes a dump of all items in your bank ? |
| 01:20.52 | Thrae | Cairenn: Help me! I type in "Fubar" and "FuBar" (in case it's case-sensitive) into the search in wowinterface and I don't get the MAIN Fubar addon =/ |
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| 01:22.21 | Cairenn | how very odd is that |
| 01:22.55 | Thrae | Yeah, I had to search for ckknight to get it. Maybe it wasn't doing a substring search, as he now has the name listed as "FuBar-2.0" |
| 01:23.19 | Cairenn | all you had to do was click on one of the links that came up for the plugins and they are all linked to it :p |
| 01:23.23 | ckknight | FuBar 2.0, actually |
| 01:24.38 | Thrae | Yeah, but, it's still weird. |
| 01:24.47 | Cairenn | agreed |
| 01:26.52 | MentalPower | bieZt: http://wowi.pastey.net/263 |
| 01:27.35 | MentalPower | just create a function called processLinks that does whatever you want with the supplied links |
| 01:31.54 | bieZt | MentalPower : k tnx :) |
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| 01:45.45 | AnduinLothar | Test Server Shutdown in 15min |
| 01:50.24 | bieZt | hmmm :) |
| 01:51.34 | cladhaire | night everyone |
| 01:52.01 | Cairenn | sweet dreams clad|sleep |
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| 01:53.04 | MentalPower | birdies are holding their ground Cair? |
| 01:53.12 | Miranoff | hey guys |
| 01:53.25 | Cairenn | MentalPower: indeed |
| 01:53.37 | MentalPower | ok, thanks :) |
| 01:53.47 | AnduinLothar | funny that there's no prepatch |
| 01:53.59 | Cairenn | and they haven't steered me wrong yet, hence my not having changed it all day even when others were saying there was no way |
| 01:54.07 | AnduinLothar | the guys upstairs tried to hard to get the bg downloader pushed |
| 01:54.26 | AnduinLothar | wonder if the smart people finally convinced them it wasn't ready |
| 01:55.28 | MentalPower | theres not enough content in this patch to warrant a prePatch IMO |
| 01:55.43 | Miranoff | so, maybe newb quesiton or not but....I was looking through the CT_RATarget.xml and .lua files trying to see how they were able to set a MT target on there (I.E. how you find out WHO is currently targetted mainly) and I am bashing my head against a wall. Can any of you point me in the right place where I can find info about finding out who the player has targetted? |
| 01:55.45 | MentalPower | most of the changes are backend, with only minimal artwork |
| 01:55.49 | AnduinLothar | the patches took forever on the test client |
| 01:55.59 | bieZt | hmmm .. what is fun to do with itemlinks and easy to code ? |
| 01:57.08 | MentalPower | Miranoff: UnitName("playertarget") for starters will give you the name of your current target (if any) |
| 01:57.40 | Miranoff | hrm, nreturns nil if no target? |
| 01:58.00 | Miranoff | ill look it up, thanks for the tip :) |
| 01:58.03 | MentalPower | yes |
| 01:58.09 | MentalPower | no return actually |
| 01:58.17 | Miranoff | ah roger, thanks |
| 01:58.26 | MentalPower | not that it matters much |
| 01:58.40 | Miranoff | yea |
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| 02:04.12 | AnduinLothar | ISP Issues += BattleGround Server Updates |
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| 02:05.49 | Cide | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9523445&p=1&tmp=1#post9523445 |
| 02:05.53 | Cide | can't believe I didn't think of that! |
| 02:06.20 | MentalPower | lol |
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| 02:15.40 | Dsanai | I want to be stapled by Cairenn. ;) |
| 02:15.41 | MentalPower_ | my power company is having fun |
| 02:15.54 | MentalPower_ | with my house's power |
| 02:17.03 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 02:17.38 | Tuplad | =_= |
| 02:17.59 | Cairenn | night Tuplad |
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| 02:20.27 | Kemayo | ...I'm surprised that Ubuntu doesn't install screen by default. |
| 02:20.29 | Tuplad | o what the kek, goodnight cairenn |
| 02:20.39 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 02:23.17 | Kemayo | Sorry, that was a bit off-topic. |
| 02:24.24 | bieZt | <3 ubuntu !! |
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| 02:55.25 | MentalPower | isint it fun when an addon you've worked with for ever suddently doesn't do what you expect and you have no clue whats going on |
| 02:55.46 | Cairenn | happy happy joy joy |
| 03:08.04 | Cide | I like the feeling of coding for 2+ hours, confident that you'll get a fuckton of errors when you log in, but then it just immediately works |
| 03:10.09 | Dsanai|Coding | Too bad that so rarely is the case :) at least, for me |
| 03:10.20 | Dsanai|Coding | I feel happy nowadays just having a simple error on login |
| 03:11.42 | Dsanai|Coding | Right now I need to test something that this character has no chance of being able to test... argh |
| 03:11.44 | Cide | well, I run my code through luac to make sure it's error free from syntax errors :) |
| 03:12.04 | Dsanai|Coding | I should do that. My last error was a friggin misplaced parenthesis :( |
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| 03:13.28 | Cairenn | evening Es |
| 03:13.38 | Cairenn | hey Es? |
| 03:13.50 | Esamynn | hiya |
| 03:14.05 | Dsanai|Coding | I need to roll a baby herbalist to test this addition I guess. Sigh |
| 03:14.12 | Esamynn | just had to convince nickserv who was boss ;) |
| 03:14.30 | Dsanai|Coding | Put in a good word for me too |
| 03:14.40 | Cairenn | stress relief ... since you've made me obsolete (*cry*) ... rename your addon to some famous product |
| 03:14.54 | Dsanai|Coding | It thinks I'm an asshat ;) |
| 03:15.20 | Esamynn | think* |
| 03:15.52 | Cairenn | bah, where's Tem, damnit |
| 03:16.12 | Cairenn | trying to remember some of the examples we'd had |
| 03:16.29 | Cairenn | ummm ... Decursive = Mr. Clean |
| 03:16.45 | Esamynn | ~seen Iriel |
| 03:16.51 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4h 44m 44s ago, saying: 'but the arguments are different between the two'. |
| 03:17.03 | Esamynn | dang it, I keep missing him |
| 03:17.30 | Cairenn | give it a bit, still early out there, he may log in |
| 03:17.45 | Esamynn | true |
| 03:19.15 | Esamynn | Cairenn: Mod Author Resources, did you miss my other post for an addition there? Post #9 |
| 03:19.25 | JoshBorke | *yawn* |
| 03:19.28 | JoshBorke | ~seen krka |
| 03:19.30 | purl | krka <i=krka@c80-216-102-253.cm-upc.chello.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 11d 7h 12m 27s ago, saying: 'some diversity helps getting better code'. |
| 03:19.34 | Cairenn | must have, checking now |
| 03:20.43 | Cairenn | added, thanks Es |
| 03:21.07 | Esamynn | np |
| 03:22.29 | Esamynn | did the tip on 1.12 patch come from slouken, or is it just a guess, I figured it would be one more week since only some servers are having extended maintenence tomorrow |
| 03:22.58 | Cairenn | certain little birdies are standing by their opinion that it'll be this week |
| 03:23.46 | JoshBorke | you guys are killing me |
| 03:23.56 | JoshBorke | clad|sleep was sure that it was coming later |
| 03:26.13 | Esamynn | oh well, no biggie, should be pretty quiet again |
| 03:31.30 | Cairenn | so you good with the stress relief plan Esamynn? |
| 03:31.40 | Cairenn | or did you have something else in mind? |
| 03:33.11 | Esamynn | umm, I wasn't actually following you on that *bonks self on head* |
| 03:33.57 | Esamynn | not a bad idea though, but I'm fine with leaving it up to you, as long as I get a thread before noon ;) |
| 03:34.12 | Cairenn | depends whether I can get logged in or not :p |
| 03:34.22 | Esamynn | yah, I hate when that happens |
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| 03:34.59 | Esamynn | I'll just busy myself with work until tomorrow afternoon, how about that? (Heaven knows I have enough of it to do) |
| 03:35.22 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 03:39.30 | Cairenn | wb cogwheel |
| 03:39.32 | Esamynn | interesting, there was just a PTR patch pushed out |
| 03:39.40 | Esamynn | hey cogwheel |
| 03:40.08 | Esamynn | and there is also " Scheduled PTR Maintenance" tomorrow between noon and 8pm |
| 03:40.37 | Cairenn | none of it adds up |
| 03:40.51 | Cairenn | everything points to it not going live, but the little birdies think it is |
| 03:41.09 | cogwheel | They're just trying to throw us off track :P |
| 03:41.38 | cogwheel | Tomorrow they'll be all like "PSYCH!!!" |
| 03:42.00 | Cairenn | maybe when the ptrs come up tomorrow, it'll be 1.13 on them, who knows |
| 03:42.01 | KaeltenAway | night guys |
| 03:42.05 | Esamynn | hey, anyone know if they ever fixed the ChatFrame bug on the PTR last I looked, it still defaulted to the last tab when you logge din |
| 03:42.09 | Esamynn | night KaeltenAway |
| 03:42.16 | Cairenn | night KaeltenAway |
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| 03:45.09 | Esamynn | eh, maybe I'll take the dog out instead |
| 03:45.29 | cogwheel | The dog would probably appreciate that... |
| 03:46.01 | Esamynn | alright, fine, I'll go then! :P |
| 03:47.01 | Kirov | anyone help Bep out? |
| 03:47.21 | cogwheel | Logging onto my guild forums is now about as painful as logging into WoW UI forum now that they all know I write addons and macros... |
| 03:47.54 | Kirov | My office moved our internet from a 256k sdsl to a T3 line |
| 03:48.10 | Kirov | But in the process I lost the ability to connect to a lot of stuff all day. |
| 03:48.20 | Kirov | cogwheel - lol |
| 03:48.21 | cogwheel | 256k? that's almost as bad as dial-up... lol |
| 03:48.55 | Kirov | cogwheel - yeah, it was really painfully slow, especially near the end of the day when people would start using the net more. |
| 03:49.23 | cogwheel | I have a hard enough time going to work with T1 vs my 6mbps cable |
| 03:50.15 | Kirov | The main work connection is, I believe, a 15mbps T3 |
| 03:50.42 | Kirov | We'll also be getting a 256 MB at some point. |
| 03:51.37 | cogwheel | anyone know of any file hosting sites that have the PTR patches? My DL'er stopped at 256KB of 8/5's patch... let alone 8/9's and today's... |
| 03:52.11 | Kirov | wtf |
| 03:52.15 | Kirov | I hate germans now |
| 03:52.27 | Kirov | but I'm very confused |
| 03:52.34 | Kyahx | cogwheel: PTR is down isn't it? |
| 03:53.26 | cogwheel | they were just mentioning that a new patch came out today... |
| 03:53.36 | Kirov | @#%! |
| 03:53.50 | cogwheel | yeah... right before you logged on, kirov... :P |
| 03:54.19 | cogwheel | "interesting, there was just a PTR patch pushed out" --Esamynn |
| 03:54.22 | Kirov | ah well, I haven't been able to get on to te PTR yet |
| 03:54.48 | Cairenn | anduin was on earlier and said "PTR shutdown in 15" |
| 03:54.51 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.09 | Cairenn | I frankly have no idea at this point guys |
| 03:55.13 | Cairenn | we'll find out tomorrow |
| 03:56.33 | Kirov | So, I just thought of an idea for fixing all the weird parsing woahs we've been having with combat messages and oddly named spells |
| 03:56.50 | Kirov | oddly, thanks to germans. |
| 03:56.52 | Kirov | whom I hate |
| 03:57.14 | JoshBorke | well, spit it out |
| 03:57.40 | Kirov | "'%s' wurde zurückgesetzt."; |
| 03:57.46 | Kirov | Anyone notice anything odd about that string |
| 03:57.57 | JoshBorke | the ? in the middle? |
| 03:58.07 | cogwheel | it's a u with an umlaut... |
| 03:58.11 | cogwheel | UTF-8 4tw! |
| 03:58.17 | JoshBorke | sorry, gaim =( |
| 03:58.23 | Kirov | let me add spaces |
| 03:58.32 | Kirov | " '%s' wurde ... |
| 03:58.40 | Kirov | there are 's around the name |
| 03:58.54 | Kirov | All of the german localisation has 's around the spell names. |
| 03:59.01 | JoshBorke | what about english? |
| 03:59.04 | Kirov | nope |
| 03:59.10 | Kirov | but, those are globals. |
| 03:59.38 | Kirov | If you edit one of those strings, they show up differently when the pattern is used. |
| 03:59.56 | Kirov | ie: why not stick hidden characters around items of interest. |
| 04:00.03 | Esamynn | do they, I'd never actually tested that theory |
| 04:00.38 | JoshBorke | Kirov: it breaks it for everyone else? |
| 04:01.04 | Kirov | meh |
| 04:01.47 | Kirov | Ace / Cosmos could use it |
| 04:02.16 | Kirov | forced addon compliance |
| 04:02.47 | Kirov | And why you gotta ruin everything? |
| 04:03.17 | JoshBorke | <3 |
| 04:10.22 | Kirov | hmm |
| 04:10.31 | ckknight | Kirov, Ace could use what? |
| 04:11.16 | Kirov | ckknight - edit global strings at run time with hidden characters to make parsing combat logs easiers ... and break any mod that doesn't do it using Ace. |
| 04:11.26 | ckknight | lol. |
| 04:11.33 | ckknight | no thanks. |
| 04:11.53 | ckknight | ~threat level |
| 04:12.00 | purl | We're currently at threat level: red |
| 04:12.00 | Kirov | that last part hadn't quite dawned on me yet |
| 04:12.07 | Kirov | but I'm sure al would use it |
| 04:15.32 | Kirov | would this work |
| 04:15.33 | Kirov | start, end, value = string.find(msg, "foo (.+)") or string.find(msg, "bar (.+"); |
| 04:18.49 | Kirov | hmm |
| 04:23.58 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 04:24.16 | JoshBorke | \if you wanted to match one or the other |
| 04:32.13 | Kyahx | Kirov: breaking mods that arent your is bad IMO |
| 04:35.28 | JoshBorke | night all |
| 04:35.29 | *** part/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 04:38.35 | MentalPower | does anyone know where I canfind a copy of the sound that plays at the end of the Iterface Mod Kit extraction? |
| 04:38.37 | Cairenn | night guys, I'm out |
| 04:38.54 | MentalPower | night Cair |
| 04:39.05 | Esamynn | night Cairenn|sleep |
| 04:40.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|sleep -> Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened.| Paste Code: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | 1.12 should be this week |
| 04:41.14 | Esamynn | sigh, now for what I've been dreading for a while now, merging the Gatherer trunk with my branch again, this could be ugly |
| 04:42.57 | Esamynn | ok, it's not as bad as I feared, only 1 conflicted file |
| 04:50.11 | MentalPower | gnight folks |
| 04:51.36 | Kirov | Esamynn - pfff, like anyone uses Gatherer anymore. |
| 04:51.47 | Esamynn | ............. |
| 04:51.52 | Kirov | heh |
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| 04:52.19 | Kirov | Only everyone I know and their grandma. |
| 04:52.21 | Esamynn | it's going to be a new addon once I'm done with it, well, sort of |
| 04:52.34 | Kirov | new now/ |
| 04:52.51 | Esamynn | I'm cleaning up the DB format and the code in general |
| 04:53.54 | Esamynn | I couldn't stand to run it in it's current state, and Norganna caught me complaining about it one night in here........ |
| 04:54.15 | Esamynn | and I ended up agreeing to go to work on it ;) |
| 04:58.25 | Kirov | what're you changing for the save format? |
| 04:58.35 | Kirov | I never really looked at the old one |
| 04:59.51 | Esamynn | trust me, DON'T |
| 05:00.06 | Esamynn | for the time being, it will scare you |
| 05:00.15 | Kirov | now you've peaked my curiosity |
| 05:01.33 | Esamynn | Gatherer is suffering from age and too many people working on it (some of which really didn't know what the hell they were doing I'm sure) |
| 05:02.14 | Kirov | hmm |
| 05:02.26 | Kirov | my gatherer.lua doesn't have any items saved |
| 05:03.01 | Kirov | ah |
| 05:05.26 | Esamynn | http://norganna.org/bb/index.php?showtopic=1966 |
| 05:05.46 | Esamynn | oh wait, nm, the doesn't show the old format |
| 05:08.30 | Esamynn | Kirov: i'm going to be very disapointed if you don't find an example soon.... |
| 05:10.34 | Kirov | of? |
| 05:12.04 | Esamynn | the gatherer DB format, weren't you looking for an example? |
| 05:12.10 | Kirov | yeah |
| 05:12.13 | Esamynn | or did you decide to take my advice? |
| 05:12.34 | Kirov | I found an old savedvariables.lua file with it |
| 05:12.34 | Kirov | heh |
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| 05:28.05 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 05:29.23 | Esamynn | don't bug me, I'm digging in "Legacy" Gatherer code..... |
| 05:30.03 | AnduinLothar | hmmm... why did we get a test server patch today.. |
| 05:30.40 | AnduinLothar | but they're offline |
| 05:30.49 | Esamynn | and why is there hardware maintenence planned for the PTR for noon to 8pm tomorrow? |
| 05:31.11 | AnduinLothar | does make much sense |
| 05:31.30 | cogwheel | i got onto 'em earlier... |
| 05:31.36 | cogwheel | around 9-ish |
| 05:31.48 | cogwheel | pacific time... |
| 05:31.51 | AnduinLothar | oh? they shut down at like 7 |
| 05:32.01 | AnduinLothar | and then went back up and now down again? |
| 05:32.24 | cogwheel | speaking of which.... I had no idea what time it was... lol |
| 05:32.28 | cogwheel | later... |
| 05:33.01 | AnduinLothar | well i have 2 known bugs i cant do anythign about now.. |
| 05:35.26 | Esamynn | night all, I going to bed before I "blow my mind" |
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| 09:13.09 | Kirkburn1 | A whole 5 mins until a disconnect today, what an improvement :/ |
| 09:15.33 | Kirkburn | And yay, the wowwiki main page design is finally getting implemented :D |
| 09:18.49 | Kirkburn | In an attempt to wake people up, here's an actual draenei female in-game model ... http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Draeneifemale.jpg |
| 09:21.14 | Kirkburn | I like the look, she doesn't look stick-thin like a NE female |
| 09:22.07 | Shadowed | hair style is kind of odd looking |
| 09:22.18 | Shadowed | s/style// |
| 09:22.57 | Kirkburn | I like it :) |
| 09:23.18 | Shadowed | looks almost metalic |
| 09:23.41 | Kirkburn | Probably just the lighting, I hope |
| 09:24.18 | Shadowed | i wouldn't bet on it :p |
| 09:25.31 | Kirkburn | Wonder if there are any more pics around |
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| 09:39.03 | Kirkburn | Wow, in Q2 2006 in china, they had a peak of 630,000 concurrent users |
| 09:39.13 | Kirkburn | And the average was 330,000 |
| 09:39.19 | Kirkburn | Mind-boggling numbers |
| 10:04.30 | AnduinLothar | stupid UT2k4... hasn't worked since i got my widescreen... i just figured out it's cause the ini config was set to 1600x1200 and my screen supports max 1680x1050... so it wouldn't lauch |
| 10:06.30 | AnduinLothar | and ive had my monitor fror 8 months.. |
| 10:08.05 | zenzelezz | I had something similar when I got my LCDs, but that was with Windows |
| 10:08.28 | zenzelezz | somehow one of them would display, but only a portion of it; and the other just went black |
| 10:08.31 | Kirkburn | Ach, I know the problem |
| 10:08.42 | AnduinLothar | retarted that ut cant detect a screen resolution error and ddefault to a low res |
| 10:09.03 | zenzelezz | it most probably can, but easy things are easy to forget |
| 10:09.13 | Kirkburn | I had to override Psychonauts to 640x480 to get it to start and set up the .ini file. Otherwise it would complain about the res and stop |
| 10:11.10 | AnduinLothar | well i dunno bout you guys but im not really expecting 1.12 today |
| 10:11.26 | AnduinLothar | i was, but as it got closer we saw none of th eusual signs |
| 10:12.00 | Kirkburn | Heh: http://www.shipbrook.com/onnotice/ |
| 10:12.05 | zenzelezz | I got the "WoW Insider", or whatever that newletter is called, today |
| 10:12.30 | Kirkburn | I'm more interested when someone says 'I got a beta key today' :P |
| 10:12.47 | zenzelezz | well, that newsletter never seems to come before it's close |
| 10:12.55 | Kirkburn | True |
| 10:13.12 | Kirkburn | Btw, I reckon the keys are coming in maybe a week :) |
| 10:15.37 | AnduinLothar | lol Fixed exploit with Arbiter that allowed Zerg buildings to become cloaked. |
| 10:16.21 | AnduinLothar | wow hax "Fixed exploit that allowed morphing Terran and Protoss buildings." |
| 10:16.52 | AnduinLothar | ok now im bored |
| 10:16.58 | AnduinLothar | i should sleep or something |
| 10:17.13 | Kirkburn | :) I guess a new Starcraft patch appeared |
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| 10:45.08 | Kirkburn1 | Mmm, nothing like buying a fresh sandwich and chocolate chip cookie :) |
| 10:46.10 | Mikk | o.O |
| 10:46.50 | Kirkburn1 | My, what a long tongue you have! Get off! |
| 10:48.03 | zenzelezz | you could always do like the rest of us and use your arms and hands |
| 10:48.12 | Kirkburn1 | It's nearly all gone ;) |
| 10:48.41 | Mikk | Meh. I didn't even know I wanted chocolate chip cookie until you said that. |
| 10:48.44 | Mikk | Now it's all I can think of >.< |
| 10:48.58 | Kirkburn1 | hehe |
| 10:49.25 | Kirkburn1 | Well, that was yumminess personified |
| 10:49.46 | Kirkburn1 | personified as a cookie, anyway |
| 10:49.47 | Kaso | Anyone know why my Down and Right Arrow keys arent workin -_- |
| 10:50.14 | Kirkburn1 | Mikk dribbled on them >_> |
| 10:50.21 | Mikk | too much grime in the keyboard? |
| 10:50.30 | Kirkburn1 | Same thing? |
| 10:50.39 | Kaso | haha |
| 10:50.45 | Kaso | not that i can really see |
| 10:50.54 | Kaso | nothing "feels" worng when i press them |
| 10:50.59 | Mikk | I usually just toss them away when they start growling at me and buy a new one |
| 10:51.06 | krka | been gone for about a week, what have i missed? |
| 10:51.20 | Mikk | 1.12 this week apparently |
| 10:51.29 | Mikk | ummm... and that's about it i guess |
| 10:51.39 | Kirkburn1 | 1.12 not this week, you mean? |
| 10:51.48 | Mikk | beh? |
| 10:52.31 | Kirkburn1 | I don't see it anywhere, do you? |
| 10:53.16 | Mikk | I wouldn't know seeing as how EU patches in 15 hrs |
| 10:53.33 | Mikk | s/patches/does maint/ |
| 10:53.46 | Kirkburn1 | Don't go playing the EU card now :P |
| 10:54.16 | Kirkburn1 | They haven't extended the maintenance for the US servers |
| 10:54.21 | Mikk | Oh ok |
| 10:54.35 | Mikk | US maint started already didn't it? |
| 10:55.14 | kergoth | Mikk: hasnt here, its 4am pacific, not due to start on most servers till 5, but a gorup of them (not mine) are subject to extended maintainance taht started an hour ago |
| 10:55.17 | kergoth | afaik |
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| 10:55.38 | Kirkburn1 | "Why not to knock your mouse flying" |
| 10:56.00 | Mikk | "How to recognize a tree from quite a long way away" |
| 10:56.01 | Kirkburn1 | How that made X-Chat quit, I dunno |
| 10:56.10 | Mikk | "No. 1: The Larch" |
| 10:56.17 | Kirkburn | hehe |
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| 10:56.56 | Kirkburn | EH? |
| 10:57.00 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 10:57.15 | Mikk | Hire an exorcist for your puter :-P |
| 10:57.27 | Kirkburn | Who did that? :O |
| 10:57.46 | Kirkburn | How, wha? Who?! |
| 10:57.47 | Mikk | George at 84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net apparently |
| 10:57.55 | Kirkburn | How have I got two windows open now? |
| 10:58.01 | Mikk | Out, daemons! |
| 10:58.13 | Kirkburn1 | I banish me! |
| 10:58.42 | Kirkburn | World's Easiest Exorcism |
| 10:59.53 | AnduinLothar | that's odd.. i thought maint started at 3am.. |
| 11:00.15 | Mikk | if extended yes |
| 11:00.23 | Mikk | otherwise 5am |
| 11:04.16 | Kirkburn | back soon! |
| 11:17.46 | AnduinLothar | still got 45 min to salvage my rank 4 |
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| 11:48.53 | Kirkburn | Dammit, Mr. Dell didn't think my DVD drive problem was a hardware fault |
| 11:49.16 | Kirkburn | What a fruitless conversation that was ... |
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| 11:50.28 | Kirkburn | He thinks the DVD playback slowness is a software issue :( There's no way I'm going through the reformatting rigmarole (not unless I find I can install Vista on here) |
| 11:51.59 | Kirkburn | Made me re-enable all the stuff on my startup list too :*( |
| 11:52.11 | AnduinLothar | worthless |
| 11:52.24 | AnduinLothar | well, server's finally going down |
| 11:52.26 | AnduinLothar | sleep time |
| 11:52.33 | Kirkburn | g'night |
| 11:52.33 | Mikk | gnite |
| 11:52.39 | Cairenn | night Karl |
| 11:53.29 | Kirkburn | Ooh, mornin' Cairenn |
| 11:53.37 | Cairenn | morning Kirkburn |
| 11:54.07 | AnduinLothar | yell rly load if there's a patch, maybe ill hear you and wake up.. not that it matters.. Cosmos isn't ready... |
| 11:54.16 | AnduinLothar | loud* |
| 11:54.24 | Cairenn | heh, okie dokie |
| 11:54.30 | Kirkburn | AAahhooooga! Aaaaahoooooga! |
| 11:54.39 | Kirkburn | Like so? :) |
| 11:54.39 | Cairenn | lol Kirkburn |
| 11:54.43 | AnduinLothar | yeah, that's not gonna wake me up |
| 11:54.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 11:54.55 | Kirkburn | Well I tried =) |
| 11:55.15 | AnduinLothar | gonna have to try harder and somehow enable my speakers instead of the headphones.. |
| 11:55.46 | AnduinLothar | i trust your hacking capibilities. you already have my ip, you' |
| 11:55.50 | AnduinLothar | re good to go |
| 11:56.12 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
| 11:59.12 | Elkano | Q: is it 1.12 pday? |
| 11:59.21 | Cairenn | A: we don't know yet |
| 11:59.44 | Kirkburn | a: But probably not ;) |
| 12:00.27 | Laric | is there even a possibility for a patch today? I mean not all realms have extended maintenance |
| 12:00.59 | Kirkburn | Depends, they might just be very efficient now |
| 12:01.11 | Cairenn | so? they've done patches before without extending the maintenance? |
| 12:01.24 | Kirkburn | But since they had a PTR maintenance very *very* recently, it seems less likely |
| 12:01.41 | Kirkburn | http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-realm-test/362019.htm |
| 12:01.44 | Cairenn | and they've waited as long as 3 hrs into the maintenance to push it, too, by times |
| 12:01.52 | Kirkburn | So recently, in fact, they're coming back up today |
| 12:02.01 | Laric | cairenn they have? (I dont mean a x.y.z patch but a x.y.0 patch) |
| 12:02.46 | Cairenn | I don't recall which one it was, but there was one that didn't go until after 7 am pacific |
| 12:03.07 | Laric | oki |
| 12:03.26 | Cairenn | and I'm pretty sure it was a major, not a minor, since I was waiting for it so I could post the front page news on the site |
| 12:03.59 | Cairenn | minors I just post a blurb in the chit-chat forum, not front page |
| 12:07.10 | Laric | I for one would love a major now :) want the new addon message api |
| 12:12.42 | Cairenn | all I know is even as late as last night the little birdie was saying "probably this week", so they'd better be right, otherwise I'm gonna be very cranky for only getting 4hrs sleep for nothing |
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| 12:17.03 | Miranoff | I feel your pain... :/ |
| 12:18.52 | Cairenn | I sincerely hope you don't |
| 12:19.56 | Cairenn | took forever for my head to stop pounding enough for me to be able to sleep |
| 12:21.29 | Miranoff | ouch, yeas I had one of those last friday... |
| 12:21.57 | Cairenn | no fun |
| 12:21.58 | Miranoff | hope ya fele better, have a nice day *runs off to work* |
| 12:22.14 | Miravlix | Thats the upside of not having a brain, it can't hurt. |
| 12:22.22 | Cairenn | later Miranoff |
| 12:22.27 | Cairenn | lol Miravlix |
| 12:25.27 | Miravlix | Moving a char from one server to another is weird, or maybe I'm just slow. Takes a while for the char to feel at home. |
| 12:29.33 | Cairenn | I could see that |
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| 12:31.12 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:31.16 | Cairenn | hi JoshBorke |
| 12:32.18 | JoshBorke | Cairenn, sleep well? |
| 12:32.35 | Cairenn | no :p |
| 12:32.38 | Cairenn | and not enough, either |
| 12:32.43 | Cairenn | but thanks for asking! |
| 12:32.47 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 12:32.52 | JoshBorke | lol. i feel the same way :-D |
| 12:34.27 | Cairenn | sorry to hear that |
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| 12:39.35 | Cairenn | well, I just threatened a certain little birdie with a sound thrashing about the head and ears using a wet noodle if it doesn't go live today and I got up when I could have slept longer after all |
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| 12:46.29 | Cairenn | so, you guys want something bizarre to try to figure out? it's certainly got me scratching my head: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5774 |
| 12:47.40 | Kirkburn | Odd |
| 12:47.45 | Kirkburn | Very ... odd |
| 12:47.49 | Cairenn | isn't it though? |
| 12:48.09 | Cairenn | I certainly can't figure it out |
| 12:48.18 | Kirkburn | Great that Jim's addons are 'hardcore' though |
| 12:50.12 | Kirkburn | Ah, I seeeee |
| 12:50.13 | Mikk | What the hell is that guy rambling about |
| 12:50.19 | Zicon | Uh. That description was so confusing I'm not even certain he's typing english... |
| 12:50.38 | Kirkburn | The last post seems to make a bit more sense |
| 12:50.50 | Kirkburn | Not something anyone other than JIM the Inventor can help with though |
| 12:51.10 | Cairenn | I'm looking at the file in question, and it says precisely what he has copied into the post |
| 12:51.20 | Kirkburn | The number thing is so that Jim can keep track of each addition |
| 12:51.46 | Kirkburn | I have no idea what the addon does, however |
| 12:52.41 | Kirkburn | Just tell him to ignore that stuff, I guess |
| 12:53.52 | Cairenn | re-reading it, I almost wonder if that is actually directed to other mod authors, not end users |
| 12:53.53 | Kirkburn | If he doesn't know LUA, there's no way in hell he'll be able to follow those instructions |
| 12:54.04 | Cairenn | it'd make a lot more sense |
| 12:54.08 | Kirkburn | I have a feeling you're right |
| 12:55.33 | Cairenn | "The concept is scalable. That is: its developer, JIM the Inventor, has invited |
| 12:55.34 | Cairenn | people to claim space in the design. Here's what to do, if you're interested." |
| 12:56.18 | Laric | wonder what that number is for? |
| 12:56.29 | Kirkburn | At least Jim must surely know what it is he's talking about |
| 12:56.41 | Kirkburn | For each addon that joins the 'collective' as he puts it, they geta number |
| 12:56.43 | Mikk | Sounds to me like JIM should just install fubar |
| 12:57.11 | Kirkburn | It's just so that no two addons (for whatever the hell it's talking about) conflict |
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| 12:57.26 | Mikk | Using numbers to do that seems silly tho |
| 12:57.30 | Mikk | Just use the addon name fgs :-P |
| 12:59.01 | Laric | so he is giving out very short guids? :P |
| 12:59.01 | Kirkburn | Jim will be Jim |
| 12:59.03 | Cairenn | yeah, the more I read that ... it's intended for other authors, not for the end users |
| 12:59.49 | Cairenn | if you view it in that context, it suddenly makes (relative) sense. |
| 13:00.21 | Cairenn | hey norgs :) |
| 13:02.00 | norganna | hi cair |
| 13:03.05 | JoshBorke | oh wow, talk |
| 13:03.38 | Cairenn | ? |
| 13:04.25 | JoshBorke | just surprising after yesterdays silence :-) |
| 13:05.05 | Rallion | Silence is more mysterious. It makes everybody more attractive. |
| 13:05.46 | JoshBorke | only if you find mystery attractive |
| 13:05.52 | JoshBorke | imho :-0 |
| 13:06.05 | Kirkburn | Depends on what comes out when they start talking |
| 13:07.36 | JoshBorke | well we all know what comes out when you start talking Kirkburn |
| 13:07.44 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 13:08.17 | JoshBorke | life according to jim... |
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| 13:12.35 | Cairenn | norganna: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowi-lounge/20060814.html.gz from timestamp 22:35.38 to about 22:54.17 |
| 13:12.49 | Rallion | does anybody else have a SBLive! card? and does anybody else experience issues where it always sets itself to have some echo effect? |
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| 13:15.43 | norganna | i don't know what he means cair! |
| 13:15.56 | norganna | use javascript for highlighting? |
| 13:16.22 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.48 | norganna | i'm all confused... |
| 13:16.52 | Cairenn | he should be on in a while |
| 13:17.26 | norganna | i'm not sure if he's joking or serious... he sounds serious, but i can't work out what he's telling me to do |
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| 13:18.37 | Cairenn | I think he's serious, but I'm definitely not the right person to ask what he means |
| 13:18.51 | Cairenn | I doubt he means for you to get frustrated though! |
| 13:19.09 | norganna | well, he's pretty upset about something :p |
| 13:19.38 | Cairenn | meh, I didn't read it as particularly upset |
| 13:20.05 | norganna | heheh - reminds me of the simpsons episode where mr burns is telling the baseball player to shave his sideburns (when he mean moustache) |
| 13:22.03 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 13:54.14 | Wobin | Did anyone else get that "You can write a Pod" email? |
| 13:55.28 | Cairenn | nope |
| 13:55.48 | Cairenn | no one else in the entire world, only you |
| 13:56.16 | Wobin | "Hi there, |
| 13:56.17 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.17 | Wobin | I saw that you are experienced in the development of Mods for World of Warcraft. Similar to Mods and/or Widgets, SMS.ac is an online marketplace for Pods. We are a global community marketplace that leverages the power of a social network to distribute your content and applications to nearly 50 million users worldwide." |
| 13:56.35 | Cairenn | neat |
| 13:57.28 | Cairenn | morning MentalPower |
| 13:57.33 | MentalPower | morning Cair |
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| 13:58.23 | Cairenn | morning Bela |
| 13:58.27 | Beladona | morning |
| 13:58.42 | Wobin | interesting |
| 13:58.44 | Wobin | "If you can create a Mod, or even a simple webpage, you can create a Pod with ease. We even have wizards that can help you create a Pod within minutes. Not only will submitting a Pod into our marketplace expose you to 50 million potential subscribers, we'll give you $100 US* for submitting your first Pod application by September 15th, and you'll be entered to win $5,000 US* in SMS.ac's "Most Popular New Pod" contest." |
| 13:59.00 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:00.08 | Wobin | And there appear to be no limitations to the location of the coder =P |
| 14:00.23 | Cairenn | hi, can you say scam? rofl |
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| 14:03.18 | Rallion | seriously, $100 is a lot of money for essentially...nothing |
| 14:03.26 | Kirkburn1 | What the hell is a Pod? |
| 14:03.27 | Rallion | I wouldn't trust that at all |
| 14:04.41 | Kirkburn1 | And how did SMS get an academia address? (.ac) |
| 14:05.05 | Rallion | ac is academia? |
| 14:05.42 | zenzelezz | my X-Chat doesn't seem to know of .ac at least |
| 14:06.10 | Kirkburn1 | Yup, ... my Uni's address is bristol.ac.uk for example |
| 14:06.24 | Kirkburn1 | We don't use .edu in the UK |
| 14:06.27 | zenzelezz | .ac ? Ascension Island |
| 14:06.42 | Cairenn | "SMS.ac Global community system offering SMS and multimedia messaging services. Service includes an initial free message quota but does levy charges for sending ..." |
| 14:06.44 | Kirkburn1 | Is that so? |
| 14:06.47 | zenzelezz | http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm |
| 14:06.57 | Cairenn | from google, second on the list when I did a .ac lookup |
| 14:07.08 | Kirkburn1 | Well, somewhat oddly, .ac.uk is reserved for academia in the UK |
| 14:07.18 | Rallion | well that's really .uk |
| 14:07.36 | zenzelezz | I think that's really up to the country |
| 14:07.36 | Rallion | the .ac preceeding it is different |
| 14:07.52 | zenzelezz | I'm sure Norway could force all domains to end with .say.no instead of .no |
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| 14:08.19 | Kirkburn1 | kk ... I had just assumed since we use .org.uk, .co.uk, etc... |
| 14:08.22 | Miravlix | As long as it's the goverment that controls .no they can do any rules they want |
| 14:08.44 | Rallion | using .co.uk and such is probably a good idea |
| 14:08.45 | krka | sweden used to have really strict regulations of .se |
| 14:08.51 | Miravlix | If they don't give you somewhere.no you can't get it end of story |
| 14:09.09 | krka | you could only get X.se if X was your registered company name, basically |
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| 14:10.05 | Rallion | i can't believe Ascension Island even has its own top-level |
| 14:10.18 | Rallion | 35 sq miles, 1100 inhabitants |
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| 14:14.06 | Kirkburn1 | Torsos okay? |
| 14:14.11 | JoshBorke | what about feet? |
| 14:14.22 | Kirkburn1 | Have you got a leg to stand on? |
| 14:14.31 | JoshBorke | or a hand to hold with? |
| 14:14.42 | MentalPower | lol |
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| 14:19.43 | bieZt | hiya :) |
| 14:20.18 | cogwheel | Is there any way to set texture coords on different button states in lua? |
| 14:21.38 | bieZt | hmmm .. |
| 14:21.50 | bieZt | i got some basic questions about a paste i made yesterday |
| 14:21.57 | bieZt | lemme look the url up ;) |
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| 14:22.35 | Rallion | cogwheel, you can just modify the texcoords OnClick and whenever else |
| 14:22.39 | Rallion | but that's it |
| 14:22.47 | Rallion | in LUA, at least |
| 14:23.16 | bieZt | http://wowi.pastey.net/253 .. does this work ? btw any1 uses marsmessageparser ? |
| 14:23.26 | bieZt | MarsMessageParser ? |
| 14:23.44 | cogwheel | Hmm.... ok. thanks rallion |
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| 14:24.37 | Rallion | bieZt, I don't think you want those this:'s in there |
| 14:24.40 | bieZt | well now i want to sentence to appear only stating name rank honor :) |
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| 14:25.19 | bieZt | Rallion : please explain ? |
| 14:25.41 | bieZt | i'm new to lua xD |
| 14:25.55 | Rallion | "this:if(event == "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HONOR_GAIN") then" makes no sense |
| 14:26.00 | Rallion | you need to take the this: out |
| 14:26.46 | Rallion | and you don't want the one in the OnLoad, either, though I'm not entirely sure what that call does, not familiar with any of the Mars stuff |
| 14:26.54 | bieZt | well it's to paste multiple files in 1 paste ;) |
| 14:27.00 | bieZt | it's not in the script :| |
| 14:27.26 | Rallion | you also need to register to recieve the CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HONOR_GAIN event |
| 14:27.30 | bieZt | how do you parse chatmessages then ? |
| 14:27.41 | Rallion | i don't parse chat messages :P |
| 14:27.56 | bieZt | well that is what MarseMessageParser in OnLoad does according to WoW-Wiki O_o |
| 14:28.10 | bieZt | i followed the HowTO: |
| 14:28.38 | cogwheel | I wonder if there's a Button:Set.-TexCoord that we just don't know about yet... |
| 14:29.07 | Rallion | what do you mean? |
| 14:29.13 | bieZt | Rallion : could you make me an example of howto parse the honor gain ... ? |
| 14:29.21 | bieZt | so that it makes a sentence :) |
| 14:29.31 | bieZt | with name rank honor :) |
| 14:29.47 | bieZt | i cann't find a decent tutorial on i-net O_o |
| 14:30.04 | bieZt | maybe i should write 1 if i'm familiar enough with the basics |
| 14:30.18 | bieZt | think it'll help a lot of people starting to code for WoW :) |
| 14:30.20 | cogwheel | bieZt, you should really familiarize yourself with the basics more... |
| 14:30.32 | bieZt | well i can't find a decent site :( |
| 14:30.39 | cogwheel | start with lua.org/pil |
| 14:30.43 | bieZt | give me a site and i'll start learning it :) |
| 14:30.47 | bieZt | k xD |
| 14:31.01 | cogwheel | your code doesn't look like you've spent much time actually learning lua |
| 14:31.01 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=425556&p=1&tmp=1#post425556 |
| 14:31.08 | Miravlix | Do not get a DiNovo keyboard for playing WoW |
| 14:31.45 | Cairenn | Miravlix: not good? |
| 14:31.56 | Miravlix | It works unreliably for shift-alt combos, not sure whats up, some bluetooth sickness perhaps |
| 14:32.15 | Miravlix | But pressing shift-alt-x half the time I loss the shift |
| 14:32.22 | Cairenn | bleh |
| 14:32.38 | Rallion | that sucks |
| 14:33.26 | Miravlix | Yeah, playing WoW really takes a big key combo to be among the best and loosing shift totally messes up my game |
| 14:33.57 | Rallion | shift is my favorite modifier! |
| 14:34.17 | Cairenn | well, luckily for me, I'm not in any danger of buying anything with bluetooth technology any time soon, rofl |
| 14:34.25 | krka | bluetooth rocks |
| 14:34.35 | krka | i use my phone as a remote control to my computer! |
| 14:34.37 | Cairenn | so does the price tag, was my point |
| 14:35.10 | krka | can get a usb bluetooth dongle for around $10-15 |
| 14:35.23 | Miravlix | My oldest machine is starting to be noisy and it's so old that I cant find anyone selling new fans for it. So I'm going to be upgrading things a bit. |
| 14:35.31 | Rallion | bluetooth uses too much power |
| 14:36.06 | krka | too much? really? |
| 14:36.30 | Miravlix | So I'm trashing that motherboard and putting the disk in the old Linux Workstation and giving the Linux machine the bluetooth keyboard + a nice motherboard/CPU ugrade and getting the Logitech gaming keyboard instead. |
| 14:36.31 | Rallion | for portable devices, I say anything that uses more power than something else is too much |
| 14:37.08 | Rallion | i have a general-use wireless logitech mouse/keyboard, works really well |
| 14:37.40 | Miravlix | Logitechs DiNova keyboard driver killed my machine |
| 14:37.47 | Miravlix | BSOD on booth after driver upgrade |
| 14:37.50 | Rallion | yikes |
| 14:37.52 | Miravlix | Had to re-install windows |
| 14:37.57 | Rallion | that's painful |
| 14:38.03 | Miravlix | It's not been the best experince around so far. |
| 14:38.44 | Miravlix | But I booted a AMD 64 Ubuntu LiveCD and it seems to grok the keyboard/mouse fine |
| 14:39.16 | Miravlix | Hmm, I forgot to test the Mediapad though. |
| 14:39.33 | Rallion | yeah that wouldn't have worked |
| 14:39.35 | Rallion | heh |
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| 14:40.46 | Rallion | i actually wanted a different keyboard...it was a gift, and the gf got me the wrong one -- but on purpose, because she figured I'd like the more expensive one more |
| 14:40.56 | cogwheel | I've never had luck with USB keyboards... trying to strafe, turn, and walk always breaks for me |
| 14:42.23 | Miravlix | I forgot if I had my old Logitech keyboard connected with USB or PS2 |
| 14:42.28 | Rallion | I've had no problems with this keyboard, and it's still only on it's second pair of AA batteries after 14 months |
| 14:42.31 | Miravlix | It worked though |
| 14:44.48 | bieZt | which version does wow use 4.0 or 5.0 ? |
| 14:44.56 | Miravlix | Atleast it wasn't like the computer my mom's friend has bought, nice AMD Athlon 2000+ with build in malware |
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| 14:45.17 | Cairenn | 5.o |
| 14:45.21 | Cairenn | 5.0, even |
| 14:45.24 | Miravlix | Also with Bluetooth you have no keyboard during boot |
| 14:45.52 | Cairenn | Miravlix: built in malware? ugh, not good. what had been preloaded? |
| 14:46.41 | Miravlix | Some download backdoor trojan was on it, best part was it also had AVG and ZoneAlarm so how the hell the seller managed to ship it with malware is weird |
| 14:46.44 | zenzelezz | I got a dislike for USB keyboards... I can make my BIOS understand them, but Windows' boot menu didn't cooperate, so it ruined the purpose |
| 14:47.26 | Cairenn | Miravlix: weird indeed |
| 14:47.53 | Miravlix | After that I decided format was the best option, didn't trust the machine after that. |
| 14:48.19 | Cairenn | yeah, really |
| 14:49.13 | Miravlix | The Bluetooth keyboard works way better under Linux |
| 14:49.27 | Miravlix | Just have to make sure the medipad is supported. |
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| 14:50.00 | Miravlix | It works fine |
| 14:50.25 | Cairenn | I'm so going to hurt that boy |
| 14:54.45 | Rallion | i have to remember to never wake up early on tuesday again...I really have nothing else to do until, well, about the time the servers come back up |
| 14:56.09 | Cairenn | Tem_: you there? |
| 14:57.20 | Laric | Cairenn: so is it patch day? |
| 14:57.36 | Cairenn | I.don't.know |
| 14:57.47 | Cairenn | he just emailed me asking if it had been pushed yet |
| 14:58.55 | Kirkburn1 | hehe |
| 15:00.17 | Kirkburn | Question! Be it not updating period this moment? |
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| 15:09.58 | Miravlix | 1.12 is next week I think |
| 15:11.35 | Dsanai|Coding | No bird poking! |
| 15:13.36 | JoshBorke | lol Cairenn |
| 15:13.45 | JoshBorke | poor Cairenn, being poked and prodded over 1.12 |
| 15:15.48 | Cairenn | well, the servers still have 2 hours until they come back up, so until they do, I'm going to continue believing that he didn't lie to me |
| 15:16.31 | Dsanai | hehe |
| 15:16.39 | Dsanai | I'm going to watch paint dry. |
| 15:17.08 | Dsanai | Of course, I might have wanted to paint something other than my monitor. Makes it hard to see the screen. |
| 15:21.51 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 15:22.03 | JoshBorke | ~help |
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| 22:35.09 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened.| Paste Code: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | 1.12 should be this week |
| 22:35.17 | JoshBorke | personally, for the quality of game-play i receive, i am happy with the quality of service blizzard provides me. i feel decently well informed. sometimes i wish they would 'upgrade' their servers, but i know that's not always feasible. I think the more problems you experience on your server, the more upset you get with blizzard |
| 22:35.30 | Cairenn | okay, now we're getting WAY out of proportion here, and this WILL stop |
| 22:35.46 | JoshBorke | basically, all i'm saying is it's merely a matter of opinion :-D |
| 22:35.53 | Rozr | Miravlix, if you honeslty think that servers lagging to shit, and going down with out any explanation from blizzard for hours upon hours afterwards, and downtime that gets bumped forward every time they give a time frame, adding on hours upon hours after each time they give you a false time designation, is good service, then your more of an idiot that you make yourself to be |
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| 22:36.18 | Codayus_ | What a charming individual. |
| 22:36.23 | JoshBorke | *sigh* |
| 22:36.35 | zenzelezz | and now, for something completely different |
| 22:36.43 | JoshBorke | why won't anyone use my mod :-( |
| 22:36.46 | beNson | Tap dancing? |
| 22:36.50 | cogwheel | Mount Everest... Forbidding, aloof, terrifying. |
| 22:36.52 | Cairenn | because we all hate you? |
| 22:37.18 | JoshBorke | i'm beginning to think that's true... |
| 22:37.21 | beNson | JoshBorke: I use it.. feel better? :) |
| 22:37.24 | Shadowed | whats your mod? |
| 22:37.26 | JoshBorke | lol beNson |
| 22:37.39 | JoshBorke | Shadowed, it makes pretty graphs :-D |
| 22:37.40 | cogwheel | joshborke, what's your mod? |
| 22:37.53 | End | JoshBorke: that'd probably because I didn't know about it |
| 22:37.55 | Shadowed | i hate it |
| 22:37.56 | End | linky! |
| 22:37.57 | JoshBorke | er, my mod is in the wrong category :-( |
| 22:37.57 | Shadowed | i don't use pretty things |
| 22:38.02 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5236 |
| 22:38.16 | Cairenn | better yet: http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=27403 |
| 22:38.29 | JoshBorke | Cairenn, can you move Borked_Monitor from Compilations & Suites into Beta-version Interfaces? |
| 22:38.44 | Kirkburn | OOoh, did I miss some drama? :O |
| 22:38.47 | Shadowed | yes |
| 22:38.50 | Shadowed | read up :p |
| 22:38.54 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: don't even go there :p |
| 22:39.06 | Cairenn | JoshBorke: done |
| 22:39.18 | JoshBorke | Cairenn, i must have mis-clicked or something when uploading originally |
| 22:39.30 | Cairenn | kinda wondered, given its location, but meh |
| 22:39.32 | End | oddly, the screenshot shows Chromaggus, and that was the fight where I was thinking something like that would be really useful :P |
| 22:39.44 | End | (odd sort of coincidence really) |
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| 22:39.51 | JoshBorke | yea, it's nice on chrom, and nef |
| 22:39.55 | Kirkburn | Life is life is life. Is life. Anyways, it seems I kept my dad up with my singing last night :/ |
| 22:39.56 | Shadowed | Seeing a SS of Patchwerk would be fun |
| 22:39.58 | beNson | Kirkburn: Yes you did, I wonder if you would have joined in on flaming the widget API with me.. |
| 22:39.59 | cogwheel | joshborke, I know what it's like... i put up a "Request for Comments" version of BuyEmAll yesterday and no one has commented despite about 100 downloads... :P |
| 22:40.06 | Miravlix | Josh: Your competing with DamageMeter. :/ |
| 22:40.17 | Shadowed | how is that competing with DM? |
| 22:40.19 | End | DamageMeter can do that? |
| 22:40.29 | End | 5.0.0 can't do that, I know that much |
| 22:40.33 | JoshBorke | DM doesn't do realtime display of HTPS/DTPS can it? |
| 22:40.35 | Miravlix | Damge DPS and Health DPS |
| 22:40.42 | End | look at the graph part |
| 22:40.44 | Shadowed | I'd hardly call that competing |
| 22:40.54 | Miravlix | I'm sure it has that somewhere in it's menu |
| 22:40.55 | Kirkburn | The widget API is a mysterious bunch of words that do amazing things, for me =) |
| 22:41.16 | JoshBorke | Kirkburn, are you talking in a mysterious world by yourself? |
| 22:41.17 | End | I'm pretty sure it doesn't |
| 22:41.20 | End | well |
| 22:41.21 | beNson | Kirkburn: So that's a definite no? =) |
| 22:41.26 | End | it has dps and hps |
| 22:41.26 | JoshBorke | or is this just more of that stuff that happens wehn you start talking? |
| 22:41.29 | End | but no graph |
| 22:41.35 | Miravlix | Well, DamageMeter doesn't have graphs, but that still makes it hard to compete with |
| 22:41.46 | End | wel |
| 22:41.50 | Miravlix | Because it is the defacto standard for DPS stuff |
| 22:41.53 | End | it's the graph part I'm interested in |
| 22:42.00 | End | well, mostly interested in |
| 22:42.00 | beNson | JoshBorke: Are you some sort of bot? You keep answering before I even read the words.. |
| 22:42.11 | JoshBorke | beNson, nope, just avoiding work |
| 22:42.59 | Miravlix | 08-15-2006 01:44 PM |
| 22:43.00 | beNson | If someone does feel like chatting with a robot: http://www.titane.ca/concordia/dfar251/igod/main.html |
| 22:43.18 | Miravlix | Your addon been up for 1 day and 4 ppl has it as favorit already + 40 downloads? |
| 22:43.28 | Miravlix | What are you complaining about! |
| 22:43.38 | Miravlix | Thats pretty darn fine stats |
| 22:43.47 | JoshBorke | no one ever says anything :-( |
| 22:43.51 | JoshBorke | like, there was a huge bug with it |
| 22:43.54 | Miravlix | They never do |
| 22:44.03 | JoshBorke | ooo |
| 22:44.07 | JoshBorke | i have exactly 100 favorites |
| 22:44.09 | Miravlix | Some of us has 80K downloads and hardly any feedback |
| 22:44.29 | Kilkbuln | kilk :( |
| 22:44.34 | Miravlix | People who use don't talk. :) |
| 22:45.14 | Miranoff | its a turbo use thing.. most people wanna use it and get back in game asap so they dont bother commenting...unless they have a problem with it :P |
| 22:45.33 | Kilkbuln | True, a lack of comments isn't a bad sign |
| 22:45.34 | Miravlix | Just like it's a minimal population that uses the forum, you get very few users that give feedback |
| 22:45.42 | Kilkbuln | Just a sign that people are lazy |
| 22:45.47 | End | I'm lazy! |
| 22:45.50 | JoshBorke | woot for 2 times tuesday! |
| 22:45.56 | Shadowed | voting is a good example :p |
| 22:46.02 | Shadowed | 13,000 downloads since jan, 30 votes |
| 22:46.28 | zenzelezz | what do the votes actually accomplish though? |
| 22:46.34 | cogwheel | Even on sites where the voting option is more prominent it's like that |
| 22:46.55 | Shadowed | main wiki page looks odd in IE7 :( |
| 22:46.56 | cogwheel | zenzelezz, people are often more likely to look at, let alone download an addon with a high rating. |
| 22:47.01 | AnduinLothar | voting never indicated the avg user |
| 22:47.09 | Miravlix | If you want personal gratification then developing software is the wrong business. :) |
| 22:47.13 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 22:47.17 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar is here? |
| 22:47.17 | zenzelezz | a rating I can understand, but why call that "vote"? |
| 22:47.29 | End | AnduinLothar is always here ;p |
| 22:47.29 | Shadowed | first thing that came to mind |
| 22:47.41 | beNson | Shadowed: What doesn't look wierd in IE7? |
| 22:47.44 | zenzelezz | I'm not a native English speaker so I may read it differently; but when I see "vote" I think of a competition type situation... don't get enough? It goes away |
| 22:47.50 | Shadowed | a lot |
| 22:47.57 | Shadowed | usually i bug mikk and make him fix it when it looks weird :p |
| 22:48.08 | AnduinLothar | now what might actually be useful is if the site tracked downloads and propted you to vote on a particular addon whether you like it or not and are still using it, say a week after you download |
| 22:48.25 | zenzelezz | true |
| 22:49.01 | cogwheel | like netflix :) |
| 22:49.09 | Miravlix | Files: 5 |
| 22:49.09 | Miravlix | Downloads: 912 |
| 22:49.09 | Miravlix | Favorites: 12 |
| 22:49.12 | cogwheel | it could also use votes to suggest addons you might like :) |
| 22:49.21 | AnduinLothar | well |
| 22:49.24 | AnduinLothar | not really |
| 22:49.26 | beNson | Shadowed: The problem is, that since the dawn of time every page has used hacks to get everything look like it should in IE, and now that they introduce a new engine everything looks like .. dookie.. |
| 22:49.36 | AnduinLothar | not unless everyone voted and you had a large database |
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| 22:49.42 | AnduinLothar | and some comparison software |
| 22:49.58 | cogwheel | which would pe possible if you asked people to vote :) |
| 22:50.14 | AnduinLothar | but would require a substantial amout of work to impliment |
| 22:50.28 | cogwheel | I didn't intend to imply otherwise ;) |
| 22:51.20 | Kilkbuln | Shadowed, odd how? |
| 22:51.27 | AnduinLothar | 'more accurate ratings' was the orig intent |
| 22:51.33 | End | see, what I don't understand is on wowi my "user rating" is higher than any ratings for any of my AddOns |
| 22:51.34 | Kilkbuln | I use IE7, see no problems |
| 22:52.07 | End | where does that "use rating" come from? |
| 22:52.19 | End | that user user rating that is |
| 22:52.46 | Shadowed | wow, nice blizzard |
| 22:53.01 | Shadowed | They managed to remove permament enchants through a bug with oils |
| 22:53.12 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 22:53.17 | JoshBorke | that's bad |
| 22:53.22 | Shadowed | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9533738 |
| 22:53.30 | End | erp |
| 22:53.45 | End | +55 healing is kinda expensive too |
| 22:54.38 | JoshBorke | and crusader |
| 22:55.08 | Saroz | gg blizzz |
| 22:55.08 | End | yeah |
| 22:55.58 | AnduinLothar | oh josh, i was looking at Healwatch. If you use IsCasting you can get more accurate spell targets |
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| 22:56.16 | Shadowed | use a library? the devil! |
| 22:56.17 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, i know. but i'm hesitant to mix Sky and Ace :-/ |
| 22:56.27 | AnduinLothar | IsCasting doesn't use sky |
| 22:56.33 | AnduinLothar | you mean sea |
| 22:56.35 | JoshBorke | not Sky but Sea :-) |
| 22:56.45 | Kilkbuln | Which one is satellite? |
| 22:56.52 | JoshBorke | but yea, i've really considered using IsCasting() |
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| 22:57.04 | JoshBorke | there are Ace semi-equivalents, but they don't get target information, so they are useless |
| 22:57.15 | Shadowed | internet connection issues? |
| 22:57.17 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, also, I'm pretty sure I covered all but 1 of the hooks you use. |
| 22:57.22 | Kilkbuln | lol |
| 22:57.25 | Kilkbuln | coming or going? |
| 22:57.34 | JoshBorke | oh, right, it's the OnMouseDown, I don't check the tooltip |
| 22:57.37 | AnduinLothar | Satellite is an enhanced slash command and chat type emulator |
| 22:58.08 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i found the tooltip more reliable than UnitName('mouseover') |
| 22:58.09 | Miravlix | Dammit if I understand how takes becames talks |
| 22:58.42 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, what's the response time between the 2? because the tooltip has to update more info, no? |
| 22:58.46 | zenzelezz | typos can be odd Mira =) |
| 22:58.52 | Shadowed | Is UnitName("mouseover") just slow to update? |
| 22:58.57 | zenzelezz | for some reason I *still* manage to type Athlong |
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| 22:59.16 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 22:59.22 | Miravlix | QUick EVERYONE GRAB HER |
| 22:59.25 | beNson | Gotta go to sleep, nighty night. :) |
| 22:59.30 | JoshBorke | ooo, really?! |
| 22:59.32 | AnduinLothar | tooltip response time isn't lightening, but i couldn't get UnitName("mouseover") to work at all in the onmousedown hook |
| 22:59.38 | Miravlix | Pile on Cairenn! |
| 22:59.53 | zenzelezz | somehow that sounds dirty :-o |
| 23:00.33 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, ah, i know why mine works! I am using UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT :-D |
| 23:00.36 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
| 23:00.36 | Miravlix | I think she bathes and stuff, shouldn't be all that dirty |
| 23:01.02 | AnduinLothar | Also you may find SeaSpellbook useful depending on how you coded things. it manages the spellbook as a table so you don't have to rescan it |
| 23:01.09 | Cairenn | once a year, whether I need it or not! |
| 23:01.21 | Shadowed | lol |
| 23:01.28 | JoshBorke | once this scanning of the spellbook? though, i will need to start doing that :-/ |
| 23:01.42 | Miravlix | Cairenn: Eww, one of those fanatism bathers. |
| 23:01.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:01.55 | JoshBorke | must...work... |
| 23:01.59 | JoshBorke | geeze! 7pm! |
| 23:02.15 | Miravlix | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4912 SeaSpellbook |
| 23:02.24 | JoshBorke | now that there is no one here to supervise i've sorta slowed down in working... |
| 23:02.28 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i could use UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT and save the name on a temp var and then confim it on click |
| 23:02.52 | AnduinLothar | confim it OnMouseDown* |
| 23:03.44 | AnduinLothar | otherwise if you mose the mouse before you get the spell event you might have issues |
| 23:03.48 | AnduinLothar | move* |
| 23:04.04 | Miravlix | Thats what WoW need, more Mooses |
| 23:04.17 | AnduinLothar | Meese |
| 23:04.41 | Kilkbuln | Meese ftw |
| 23:04.44 | Miravlix | Your serious it's the multiple form? |
| 23:04.50 | AnduinLothar | no lol |
| 23:04.56 | AnduinLothar | Mooses is correct |
| 23:05.00 | AnduinLothar | i prefer Meese |
| 23:05.03 | Cairenn | plural of moose is moose |
| 23:05.20 | Cairenn | not mooses :p |
| 23:05.22 | AnduinLothar | mmm, dunno have to look it up |
| 23:05.28 | Kilkbuln | meese! |
| 23:05.32 | Kilkbuln | I demand meese |
| 23:05.45 | AnduinLothar | Inflected Form(s): plural moose |
| 23:05.45 | Miravlix | No definitions found for "Meese", perhaps you mean: |
| 23:05.46 | Miravlix | gcide: Feese Geese Leese Neese Mease Mense Meuse |
| 23:05.46 | Miravlix | wn: geese Meuse |
| 23:05.46 | Miravlix | bouvier: MESE |
| 23:05.46 | Miravlix | gazetteer: Reese |
| 23:05.48 | Miravlix | gaz-place: Reese |
| 23:06.03 | AnduinLothar | lol mira |
| 23:06.36 | Miravlix | I need to remove dict from my system, it's too spam tastic |
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| 23:07.08 | Miravlix | Atleast it wasn't a hit. :p |
| 23:07.32 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.32 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.19 | AnduinLothar | josh, do you know of any library that just scans the combat log and produces events for spell casts? |
| 23:08.37 | AnduinLothar | That would be useful |
| 23:09.00 | AnduinLothar | and easier to maintain sepperate from a gui |
| 23:09.11 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, no. the closest thing i found is ParserLib |
| 23:10.51 | JoshBorke | Miravlix, so SeaSpellbook won't give me estimated damage/healing for a spell? |
| 23:11.17 | AnduinLothar | mmm, it should be stored |
| 23:11.41 | AnduinLothar | or you can call the tooltip scan which returns a table of the info |
| 23:11.46 | Miravlix | It gives you everything thats in the tooltip in the spellbook |
| 23:11.49 | JoshBorke | i suppose battle shout wouldn't be a good one to base it off |
| 23:12.12 | Miravlix | So, no it's not an eastimate based on + items and spell effects |
| 23:12.59 | Miravlix | But that sounds like a great idea for an addon library for SeaSpellbook |
| 23:13.06 | AnduinLothar | yeah it doesn't parse that infomation. you've have to parse it yourself from the description |
| 23:14.07 | AnduinLothar | hmmm ParserLib does look useful |
| 23:15.02 | AnduinLothar | still need a lib with estimated spell times based on name |
| 23:17.31 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, this for adding prediction to ArcanePartyBars? |
| 23:18.01 | AnduinLothar | hopefully, tho it's hard to compete with ecastingbars' gui |
| 23:18.18 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, HealSync by shag has an algorithm for chunking spellcasts into time frames. ie, average 10 spellcasts and try to fit it to a known cast time |
| 23:18.26 | JoshBorke | what do you mean? |
| 23:18.45 | JoshBorke | oh, and the next version of ParserLib will be Ace2 :-X |
| 23:18.50 | AnduinLothar | chunking spellcasts? |
| 23:19.29 | JoshBorke | rather than just a running average of a spell cast by someone else, average and try to fit that to a know cast time for that spell |
| 23:20.30 | AnduinLothar | so you have a list of all known cast times and guess which one they're casting? |
| 23:20.43 | JoshBorke | pretty much |
| 23:21.01 | JoshBorke | though, that's easier when just looking at healing spells |
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| 23:21.54 | Kilkbuln | Don't you just love when someone comes to the wiki, gets it into their head that something is wrong, then obliterates info that has existsed for the last year without discussing it with anyone |
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| 23:22.50 | Iriel|working | Oh yes, it's a joy |
| 23:22.58 | Iriel|working | Especially when they leave no indication of why in the talk page |
| 23:23.26 | Iriel|working | Worse, however, is when the original info WAS wrong and someone puts it back without checking to see which is correct 8-) |
| 23:23.28 | AnduinLothar | wonder if i can get apb to intercept other addon's channel messages |
| 23:23.34 | Kilkbuln | heh |
| 23:23.52 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, you mean other mods that send information? |
| 23:23.56 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 23:24.16 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar, that's a feature i plan for HealWatch too. sorta like what Cladhaire does for clique, just plugins |
| 23:25.06 | JoshBorke | thankfully there aren't many mods that send spellcast info :-D |
| 23:25.27 | AnduinLothar | but of course mines the best ;) |
| 23:25.38 | AnduinLothar | and everyone shsould use my method |
| 23:25.51 | End | heheh |
| 23:26.11 | JoshBorke | nuh uh! my messages are more obfuscated! |
| 23:26.15 | JoshBorke | and liable to break! |
| 23:26.21 | AnduinLothar | why is that good? |
| 23:26.39 | JoshBorke | hrm, i guess my sarcasm has been off today... |
| 23:26.40 | Iriel|working | it makes him feel important? |
| 23:26.44 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 23:27.02 | AnduinLothar | complicated accomplishments do make you feel important.. |
| 23:27.03 | JoshBorke | it's been a bad week! leave me alone! |
| 23:27.32 | AnduinLothar | i'll go with the neener neener, mine's simpler |
| 23:28.36 | JoshBorke | actually, i have no idea how i'll do it |
| 23:28.48 | AnduinLothar | do what? |
| 23:28.55 | End | tap dance? |
| 23:28.57 | JoshBorke | parsing other mod's data |
| 23:29.03 | End | magic |
| 23:29.11 | AnduinLothar | not too complicated, you can basicly steal their code |
| 23:29.29 | AnduinLothar | just have to convert it to call your functions |
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| 23:30.31 | JoshBorke | i mean more of the plugin system so users can decide what to enable and what not to |
| 23:30.42 | AnduinLothar | mmm ecastingbar already have 1.12 code in it commented out |
| 23:31.03 | Kilkbuln | New version? :O |
| 23:31.22 | JoshBorke | ecastingbar has a new version? |
| 23:31.24 | AnduinLothar | CEnemyCastBar |
| 23:31.39 | AnduinLothar | not really |
| 23:31.45 | AnduinLothar | they will for 1.12 no doubt |
| 23:32.24 | AnduinLothar | these variables are totally unusable.. |
| 23:32.35 | AnduinLothar | local necbcmdcheck, necbtcolor = CEnemyCastBar_Parse_RaidChat(msg, msgsender, "CT_RA") |
| 23:32.44 | Kilkbuln | The author hasn't visited ui.worldofwar since May 6th |
| 23:32.46 | AnduinLothar | wtf does necbcmdcheck mean |
| 23:33.27 | JoshBorke | necb command check |
| 23:33.35 | AnduinLothar | necb is.. |
| 23:33.42 | JoshBorke | nEnemyCastingBar |
| 23:33.43 | Tem | natur enemy cast bar |
| 23:33.43 | Iriel|working | Need to Eat Better Cheese |
| 23:33.52 | Iriel|working | oh, damn, cb |
| 23:33.57 | Iriel|working | Need to Eat Cheap Bacon |
| 23:33.58 | AnduinLothar | it's a local var.. why the heck does it have its name in it? |
| 23:34.09 | JoshBorke | just in case? |
| 23:34.27 | Iriel|working | at least it's not local local_necb_command_check |
| 23:34.48 | JoshBorke | or just c |
| 23:35.07 | AnduinLothar | Capitolize words if you aren't using spaces plz |
| 23:35.19 | Kirov | Hmm... no cogwheel |
| 23:35.19 | AnduinLothar | cmdCheck maybe |
| 23:35.25 | Kirov | Anyone have access to WoW right now? |
| 23:35.47 | AnduinLothar | tho istll dont know what command check means even lookign at the code |
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| 23:37.31 | AnduinLothar | ok.. his variable names hurt my eyes |
| 23:37.48 | AnduinLothar | Are mine that bad too? |
| 23:38.14 | Cide | Sky_ChatMessage_Mailbox_IncomingPigeon_Handler |
| 23:38.26 | AnduinLothar | mmm, i didn't write sky |
| 23:38.32 | AnduinLothar | so i can deny that one |
| 23:38.37 | Kirov | heh |
| 23:39.29 | AnduinLothar | alex liked underscores |
| 23:39.39 | Cide | I just made something up, actually :P |
| 23:39.43 | AnduinLothar | i know |
| 23:39.49 | Cide | ok, good :) |
| 23:40.07 | MentalPower | Server Restart in 15mins |
| 23:40.21 | End | MentalPower: yeah, to fix a temp. enchant bug |
| 23:40.26 | MentalPower | fun |
| 23:40.26 | AnduinLothar | mmm CEnemyCastBar_Afflictions isn't too bad... cept it's global |
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| 23:40.52 | End | certain temporary enchants applied in certain ways will destroy normal enchants when zoning or logging out |
| 23:41.50 | Cide | 'all' temporary enchants |
| 23:42.01 | Kirov | er |
| 23:42.02 | Cide | must suck for rogues |
| 23:42.09 | Kirov | that a 1.12 bug? |
| 23:42.12 | Cide | no |
| 23:42.13 | Kirov | or PTR |
| 23:42.14 | Cide | live |
| 23:42.17 | Kirov | right now? |
| 23:42.19 | Cide | from the hotfix |
| 23:42.20 | Cide | yes |
| 23:42.21 | Kirov | gah |
| 23:42.29 | Cide | Do not apply temporary enchants (Poisons, Oils, etc) through the trade window: Your permanent enchants will go POOF |
| 23:42.40 | Cide | quoted myself in another channel |
| 23:42.54 | End | is it any temporary enchant? |
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| 23:43.13 | End | the original bug report only found issue with Mana Oil, but not the Melee Stones |
| 23:43.24 | End | (erm, sharpening or whatever) |
| 23:43.30 | Cide | well |
| 23:43.45 | Cide | I have no idea why the code would do something separate for some |
| 23:43.50 | End | I don't either. |
| 23:44.04 | Cide | it said "(Poisons, Mana Oils, etc)" in the server wide message |
| 23:44.09 | End | hmm |
| 23:44.19 | AnduinLothar | Temporary enchants will no longer stay in effect when |
| 23:44.20 | AnduinLothar | zoning or logging. For more information please read |
| 23:44.20 | AnduinLothar | the article "Temporary Item Buff Hotfix" in our General |
| 23:44.20 | AnduinLothar | Forums. We apologize for the inconvenience. |
| 23:44.26 | End | well, I'm not sure why applying through the trade window would break it either |
| 23:44.37 | Kirkburn1 | "We have verified that players may lose enchantments if applied on top of specific temporary weapon buffs. We are in the process of producing a fix which will likely require rolling restarts on all realms once the fix has been applied. We will provide any further information that we come across concerning this issue, as well as information on when the rolling restarts will begin." |
| 23:45.09 | End | AnduinLothar: while that hotfix probably caused it, it's actually the whole non-temporary not staying in effect |
| 23:46.02 | Corrodias | rolling restarts. that sounds fun! |
| 23:46.22 | Corrodias | roll the servers around the floor of the farm |
| 23:47.12 | Mr_Rabies | rofl |
| 23:47.30 | Mr_Rabies | i imagine blizzard kicking the servers down a flight of steps while it's powering on |
| 23:47.46 | Corrodias | that's possibly more accurate |
| 23:47.48 | Kirkburn1 | rofr = rolling on the floor restartin' |
| 23:48.26 | Mr_Rabies | man i need to find the guy that's doing theorycraft and offer him some cheerleaders or something |
| 23:48.36 | Corrodias | theorycraft, sounds familiar... |
| 23:48.40 | Mr_Rabies | he hasn't updated it in like 2 months now |
| 23:48.42 | End | I just realized that a character that I've been playing lately is on Kirov's realm o_O |
| 23:48.47 | Mr_Rabies | and he was close to a major revision :| |
| 23:49.09 | End | I noticed his guild tag at first, and I was like...that guild looks familiar.... |
| 23:49.22 | End | then I read what realm it said he is on |
| 23:49.39 | End | anyways, brb |
| 23:50.02 | Corrodias | and they all lived happily ever after |
| 23:55.35 | Kirov | lol |
| 23:55.57 | Kirov | One of the semi-regulars in this channel just joined my guild. |
| 23:56.26 | Kirov | Not going to say who in case he doesn't want me to spam that. |
| 23:57.07 | Kirkburn1 | The one who just said he was on your server? :P |
| 23:59.52 | JoshBorke | fyi |
| 23:59.55 | JoshBorke | DFS SUCKS ASS! |
