| 00:10.50 | Kirkburn1 | My other 2 realms with chars aren't up :/ |
| 00:10.51 | Kirkburn1 | Listed, but not up :( |
| 00:10.51 | zenzelezz_ | the server is up; I get in, see lots of "Unknown" people and question mark icons, then I get disconnected from everything |
| 00:10.51 | Kirov | zenzelezz - with our without addons loaded? |
| 00:10.51 | Kirkburn1 | S'pose it's because it's first on the list |
| 00:10.52 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: delete the WDB folder, and try again |
| 00:10.58 | Kirov | A friend of mine has that problem every time a new patch comes out. He has to remove all his addons, his wtf, and wdb folders and it fixes itself |
| 00:10.58 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: question marks and unknowns are usually caused by an error in one of the cache files |
| 00:11.19 | Kirkburn1 | Clearing WDB has no effect on the game, no? |
| 00:11.23 | Maldivia | it flushes the cache, so all item info etc has to be refetched from server |
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| 00:11.50 | Kirkburn1 | Just a speed thing, then? I think I'll do that just in case |
| 00:11.50 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: unless your client is fubar, there's no reason to clear the WDB folder |
| 00:11.50 | YammYgirlcoding | =( no realm up yet |
| 00:11.51 | Kirkburn1 | I've got nothing else to do ;) |
| 00:11.51 | Maldivia | the client does it itself normally, everytime you patch |
| 00:11.52 | Kirkburn1 | Hrm, that would explain why it was only 15KB :) |
| 00:12.09 | Kirkburn1 | Next, deleting all the unused SV files |
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| 00:12.16 | TS|Skrom | delete all your mpq's too ;) |
| 00:12.19 | Kirkburn1 | lol |
| 00:12.21 | Kirkburn1 | They'll need defragging, that's for sure |
| 00:12.22 | zenzelezz__ | don't even know if my last line went through |
| 00:12.22 | zenzelezz__ | "with; but I don't see why addons would drop my entire connection, including IRC and MSN... never happened before, and my computer isn't in charge of the connection, a gateway is" |
| 00:12.23 | TS|Skrom | it'll fix your login problem for sure! |
| 00:12.23 | Kirkburn1 | My patch.mpq is probably still more than 1,500 pieces |
| 00:12.25 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: when you log in, especially in crowded places, after a patch - the client will request A LOT of data, to get item information for all the items you can see (meaning the equipment for ALL players in ironforge) |
| 00:12.26 | TS|Skrom | I love the company we are a dealer for... |
| 00:12.29 | TS|Skrom | New Min Specs out! Required system... windows xp pro or 2000 pro |
| 00:12.29 | TS|Skrom | because we want to be cutting edge and innovative! |
| 00:12.30 | TS|Skrom | Serial card required!... |
| 00:12.31 | TS|Skrom | because we want to live in the past? |
| 00:12.31 | TS|Skrom | make up your damn mind |
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| 00:12.43 | zenzelezz | I give up on this bastard. No WDBs, no addons, no luck |
| 00:12.44 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: try to create a level 1 char, and run it to IF |
| 00:12.44 | zenzelezz | never had a problem like this before with my internet connection |
| 00:13.51 | Maldivia | you should probably be able to log on to a levle 1 char |
| 00:13.53 | TS|Skrom | Hey cair, what's saskatchewan's problem.. they can't go DST like the rest of you cannucks? |
| 00:13.55 | zenzelezz | can't be bothered, too late to do anything useful anyway |
| 00:13.55 | Maldivia | or if you're Horde, run it to Org :) |
| 00:13.56 | Kirkburn1 | I just noticed that the 1.11.2 and 1.12 patchers are new versions |
| 00:13.59 | Kirkburn1 | They're no longer the BattleNet 'PrePatcher' |
| 00:14.01 | zenzelezz | now I don't even get past "Authenticating" |
| 00:14.01 | zenzelezz | but that could just be everyone trying to log back on |
| 00:14.03 | Kirkburn1 | Oooh, am now over 600MB of patches since I started collecting them with 1.6 :P |
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| 00:14.11 | Kirkburn1 | They're actually no use, are they :/ |
| 00:14.15 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 00:14.17 | YammYgirlcoding | yayyyyyyyyyyyyy warsong is back!! \o/ |
| 00:14.17 | Kirkburn | It's not as if I'll sit there patching it 20 times |
| 00:14.17 | TS|Skrom | no kidding |
| 00:14.19 | YammYgirlcoding | Now i can test for the addons bugs ! :D |
| 00:14.20 | Maldivia | auth server down :| |
| 00:14.24 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:14.33 | Kirkburn | The new Blizzard repair program is pretty nifty |
| 00:14.33 | TS|Skrom | KB, you registered or just ignoring my pm :p |
| 00:14.34 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 00:14.35 | YammYgirlcoding | the auth server is workin fine for me |
| 00:14.39 | YammYgirlcoding | but I logged for 5 seconds and got dc :(((((( |
| 00:14.40 | Kirkburn | Totally ignoring you TS|Skrom :P |
| 00:14.41 | TS|Skrom | I understand :D it's easy to do |
| 00:14.42 | Kirkburn | Are you not getting my replies?? |
| 00:14.43 | TS|Skrom | I am and responded O.o |
| 00:14.43 | Kirkburn | That would have been confusing otherwise ;P |
| 00:14.44 | Kirkburn | Hmm, just thinking - I suppose they'll have to include an 'upgrade from release' patch with the expansion as well as an 'upgrade from latest version' patch. Methinks the former would be maaaaaaassive |
| 00:14.46 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 00:14.46 | TS|Skrom | I have 1.4 I think, on to current... |
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| 00:14.47 | TS|Skrom | it's about a gig if I recall |
| 00:30.09 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: the current "upgrade from release" is already massive |
| 00:30.10 | Kirkburn | Wouldn't surprise me |
| 00:30.14 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: and the "upgrade from release" will most likely be on the CDs for the expansion! |
| 00:30.19 | TS|Skrom | that's most likely true |
| 00:30.21 | Kirkburn | God, no really?! :O |
| 00:30.24 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.30 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 00:30.31 | Maldivia | you fail |
| 00:30.39 | Shadowed | ugprade from release is 450 MB |
| 00:30.40 | TS|Skrom | YOU'VE BEEN SAVING EM ALL FOR NOTHING!! OH NOES! |
| 00:30.42 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 00:30.43 | Kirkburn | 450? You sure? |
| 00:30.44 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 00:30.50 | TS|Skrom | O.o shadowed... kirk's 1.6 to now was 600.. |
| 00:30.53 | Kirkburn | But that's .... tiny |
| 00:30.54 | Shadowed | that's what the release -> 1.12 was 450 MB when i looked |
| 00:30.56 | TS|Skrom | maybe it's more if they are all seperate |
| 00:31.02 | Kirkburn | I mean, that's Molten Core, Zul'gurub, Naxx, AQ x 2, Silithus, Dire Maul ... |
| 00:31.18 | TS|Skrom | hrm... I'm going to install it on my laptop tonight, I'll let you know tomorrow lol |
| 00:31.18 | Kirkburn | Sounds like good compression |
| 00:31.19 | Shadowed | A lot of the AQ20/AQ40 mobs share the same models |
| 00:31.25 | Shadowed | Moam, Bure, Kurwhatsitcalled for example are all AQ40 boss models but scaled down/up |
| 00:31.30 | Maldivia | 1.12 full patch: Size: 465.3 MB |
| 00:31.46 | Kirkburn | wow |
| 00:31.55 | TS|Skrom | good compression indeed |
| 00:32.02 | TS|Skrom | because you'd still have to load the same models once even if they were dup's |
| 00:32.02 | Kirkburn | I should have looked here : http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ :) |
| 00:32.19 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: remember, a large part of the patch data are overwrites for previous data |
| 00:32.21 | Kirkburn | The EU versions are about 9 MB less, since we started with 1.2 |
| 00:32.24 | Kirkburn | Ah, good point |
| 00:32.34 | TS|Skrom | oh yeah |
| 00:32.37 | TS|Skrom | hey... another great site I didn't know about... what else are you guys keeping from me? |
| 00:32.45 | TS|Skrom | what do you gotta know a super secret handshake to get the good infoz around here or something? |
| 00:32.48 | Kirkburn | Hehe |
| 00:32.54 | Kirkburn | That site is *awesome* for patches |
| 00:33.01 | Kirkburn | Best mirror site I've seen |
| 00:33.05 | TS|Skrom | well i'll be sure to just download that when I install on the laptop, will cut out alot of wasted time lol |
| 00:33.12 | TS|Skrom | then I'll bring the laptop to work and I can test my addons while I'm "working" muhahaha |
| 00:41.46 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 00:41.55 | Kirkburn | So, how's development on AceMos going, guys? I hope you've been following my design brief? http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acemosbe5.jpg |
| 00:41.59 | TS|Skrom | wow the printer jammed while someone's report was printing and I actually kinda feel bad for her because I didn't notice it |
| 00:42.03 | TS|Skrom | but at the same time it's not my job to watch other people's reports print |
| 00:42.07 | ckknight_ | Kirkburn, CT_AceMos |
| 00:42.11 | Kirkburn | Dammit, I misspelt it? |
| 00:42.18 | TS|Skrom | but she can't leave til it finishes which makes me cccc |
| 00:43.14 | AnduinLothar | aagrgaergaergaergerag |
| 00:43.16 | AnduinLothar | bash is ownign my face |
| 00:43.27 | Kirkburn | Tell him to stop? |
| 00:43.32 | AnduinLothar | it works at command line but not in the script.. |
| 00:43.34 | Kirkburn | Yay for ... |
| 00:43.34 | Kirkburn | Authenticating |
| 00:43.35 | Kirkburn | [ Cancel ] |
| 00:43.35 | AnduinLothar | yeah fuck it. i'm gonna go own face in bgs |
| 00:43.35 | Maldivia | yeah, *yawn* *rolling thumbs* |
| 00:43.36 | TS|Skrom | hehe another name for the EPL trailer on Wow.com |
| 00:43.36 | TS|Skrom | Lord of the Warcraft: The Two Towers |
| 00:43.36 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 00:43.37 | AnduinLothar | and by own face i mean heal, cause it's soo easy now with raid frames and auto-targetting |
| 00:43.38 | Maldivia | great... they didn't fix the bug where you can't unmount if moving... |
| 00:43.38 | AnduinLothar | i can get ym own facing in through proxy and get like 100 hks per av |
| 00:49.05 | AnduinLothar | without actually hitting anyone |
| 00:49.07 | Kirkburn | AnduinLothar, so no more Sky, eh? |
| 00:49.07 | AnduinLothar | no it died |
| 00:49.08 | Kirkburn | It's like a little bit of happy history :) |
| 00:49.08 | Kirkburn | Soon we'll be nostalgic for all the little nuances ... :P |
| 00:49.08 | AnduinLothar | everyone else killed it. I tried to keep it alive.. but not... no one liked the bastard child. they are happy to see it lost to history |
| 00:49.08 | TS|Skrom | why is it dead? |
| 00:49.08 | TS|Skrom | because of the addon msg thing? |
| 00:49.08 | Kirkburn | Superceded |
| 00:49.08 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 00:49.08 | TS|Skrom | if you and your buddies are all using addons that used it in the past they will still work though right? |
| 00:49.09 | TS|Skrom | as long as you don't update lol |
| 00:49.09 | Kirkburn | Well yeah |
| 00:49.09 | Kirkburn | But then you have stupid friends :P |
| 00:49.09 | TS|Skrom | !! |
| 00:49.09 | TS|Skrom | I'm my friends addon tech support |
| 00:49.09 | AnduinLothar | it's not 'broken' if you don't count design flaws |
| 00:49.09 | TS|Skrom | if I don't tell em to change something they don't |
| 00:49.09 | Kirkburn | Who you must coax and poke into updating |
| 00:49.10 | AnduinLothar | still works in 1.12 |
| 00:49.10 | Kirkburn | Coax and poke, that's the way |
| 00:49.10 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 00:49.10 | AnduinLothar | but it's no longer being maintained |
| 00:49.10 | Kirkburn | Yeah, it's not broken, just superceded |
| 00:49.11 | TS|Skrom | well I'm just trying to think of how quickly I'm going to need to respond.. |
| 00:49.11 | TS|Skrom | I've not "played" in like two weeks |
| 00:49.11 | TS|Skrom | so I don't even know what's changed regarding the addons we use on a case by case basis yet |
| 00:49.11 | AnduinLothar | it was replaced by Telepathy where a lib was still needed |
| 00:49.13 | TS|Skrom | oh? |
| 00:49.13 | TS|Skrom | hrm I suppose that's why our party quests stopped sharing data... when did that happen? |
| 00:49.13 | AnduinLothar | yesterday |
| 00:49.13 | TS|Skrom | telepathy happened yesterday? |
| 00:49.13 | AnduinLothar | went live yesterday |
| 00:49.14 | TS|Skrom | is telepathy some code name for the new api event for send_msg_addon or whatever? |
| 00:49.14 | Kirov | Sky has been replaced with Stratosphere. Sea has been replaced by Ocean. Khaos by Anarchy. Cosmos by Universe! |
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| 00:50.32 | TS|Skrom | O.o wow |
| 00:50.34 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Telepathy |
| 00:50.34 | TS|Skrom | I AM more behind then I thought |
| 00:50.34 | cogwheel | MazzleUI by WinFS! |
| 00:50.34 | cogwheel | (sorry Cairenn :P) |
| 00:50.35 | zenzelezz | I don't understand the relation between MazzleUI and WinFS o_O |
| 00:50.35 | Kirov | Skrom - obviously, since one of the first things you should learn is not to listen to me |
| 00:50.36 | cogwheel | WinFS == Vaporware... |
| 00:50.37 | AnduinLothar | just have um update Cosmos. |
| 00:50.37 | Kirov | is Mazzle released? |
| 00:50.37 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 00:50.38 | cogwheel | no... that's the point... ;) |
| 00:50.38 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.38 | TS|Skrom | ohh all those changes were just yesterday |
| 00:50.39 | AnduinLothar | which they shoulda done anyway for 1.12 |
| 00:50.39 | TS|Skrom | Kirov >< |
| 00:50.40 | TS|Skrom | I'm lucky I caught that... I was windowed out helping someone with their pc |
| 00:50.45 | Kirov | I've had Mazzle complain that my mod was too slow and causing memory leak issues ... which it has none. |
| 00:50.46 | Kirov | And isn't very slow. |
| 00:50.47 | TS|Skrom | Who/What is mazzle? |
| 00:50.47 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm anyone there uses nurfed ui? This trigering 2 errors for me. Any error over there? |
| 00:50.54 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - Mazzle is a person who posted about 6 months ago about how s/he was working on an end-all-be-all addon compilation that wouldn't require people to do funky things like copy wtf folders to get working. |
| 00:51.09 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - Mazzle has posted plenty of screenshots of his/her UI (which appears to be created using DART) and all the crazy cool "unique" features (which have usually been done in King custom UIs), but never any download. |
| 00:51.11 | TS|Skrom | ahh now I understand the vaporware comment hehe |
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| 00:52.32 | cogwheel | ~exlax |
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| 00:52.52 | cogwheel | hmm... i'll have to program that one in... |
| 00:56.40 | Kirov | I honestly think Mazzle is really trying to do what s/he is saying, but didn't quite comprehend how much work it would actually be to finish. |
| 00:56.40 | TS|Skrom | neither did she/he comprehend the concept of humility it seems lol |
| 00:56.41 | cogwheel | I think the main issue is the setup program. |
| 00:56.41 | cogwheel | she's designing a base mod that does ALL of the configuration for various classes and screen aspect ratios |
| 00:56.41 | AnduinLothar | not too hard, it's just coding positioning and default sv's mainly |
| 00:56.42 | AnduinLothar | problem is mainly setting it |
| 00:56.42 | AnduinLothar | which is a crap tonne of work |
| 00:56.42 | cogwheel | She's also collecting a database of mobs to find the best camera angle for her unit frames |
| 00:56.42 | clad|sleep | someone should write a coordinate system that hooks SetPoint and lets you specify things in some scale independent/non-pixely manner |
| 00:56.43 | TS|Skrom | it's pretty sharp looking |
| 00:56.43 | Kirov | clad - why? |
| 00:56.48 | TS|Skrom | I go for the minimalist approach on my ui, but I just do it with dab lol |
| 00:56.48 | clad|gym | Kirov: For fun =) |
| 00:56.49 | clad|gym | might have some practical purpse.. hehe |
| 00:56.49 | Kirov | clad - make an AcePoint or something |
| 00:56.50 | Kirov | p |
| 00:56.50 | Kirov | :p |
| 00:56.52 | cogwheel | perhaps something that uses screen coordinates [0,1] for instance? |
| 00:56.53 | Kirov | or something that lets you dial in %s |
| 00:56.54 | cogwheel | well, that would be pretty much equivalent ;) |
| 00:56.55 | Kirov | true |
| 00:57.01 | Kirov | but would allow for an easy time hooking |
| 00:57.04 | AnduinLothar | well the main problem with that clad is specifying frames |
| 00:57.10 | Kirov | SetPoint(blah, blah, blah, "50%", 50) |
| 00:57.10 | AnduinLothar | you would either have to program in a list of frames you could possibly link too |
| 00:57.14 | AnduinLothar | or allow for some sort of entry |
| 00:57.16 | clad|gym | yeah |
| 00:57.18 | clad|gym | it'd be weird tho.. wonder if it has any practical use |
| 00:57.19 | clad|gym | i think kergoth asked for it a long while back |
| 00:57.20 | AnduinLothar | which req the user to know the name or have a devtools stack for what the mouse is over |
| 00:57.28 | AnduinLothar | and then again some of the best gui features are the stacking of say the bags |
| 00:57.31 | Hexarobi | is there something like UIObject:SetName() |
| 00:57.32 | AnduinLothar | which you cant really duplicate with generalized positioning code |
| 00:57.33 | AnduinLothar | yes hex |
| 00:57.34 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 00:57.36 | AnduinLothar | scratch that |
| 00:57.38 | AnduinLothar | CreateFrame |
| 00:57.39 | Hexarobi | but no way to change the name of a frame thats been created |
| 00:57.41 | Hexarobi | ? |
| 00:57.43 | AnduinLothar | correct |
| 00:57.46 | Hexarobi | bah |
| 00:57.48 | Hexarobi | =) |
| 00:57.49 | TS|Skrom | er... so I was on this date last night. Second date with this girl had a real nice time, but we ended up at a park swining on the swings near the end of the night |
| 00:57.50 | AnduinLothar | you can set it to a new global object, but that wont change the name |
| 00:57.50 | TS|Skrom | and I decided to play on the monkey bars... and now my arms hurt >< |
| 00:57.51 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - next time use your tail, much easier on the hands. |
| 00:57.55 | TS|Skrom | omg you are right! |
| 00:58.00 | JoshBorke | bye all :-) |
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| 00:58.01 | Kirov | the other option is, of course, just have her play on the monkey bars while you watch. The higher they are the better, skirt is a bonus too. |
| 00:58.01 | TS|Skrom | !! |
| 00:58.02 | TS|Skrom | she wore jeans :P |
| 00:59.47 | AnduinLothar | good girl |
| 00:59.51 | Hexarobi | grrr |
| 00:59.51 | Hexarobi | im tyring to play on PTR and it forces me to download a patch, then says the patch download is "not authorized" |
| 00:59.52 | Hexarobi | sometimes i envy the good ole days before computers, if somebody pissed you off you always had the option of getting a shotgun |
| 00:59.52 | Kirkburn | You're trying to play on the PTR?? |
| 00:59.53 | Kirkburn | Even though they're down? |
| 00:59.53 | Hexarobi | yes, is it down anyways? |
| 00:59.53 | Hexarobi | i have to patch before i can even get that far to see if its up |
| 00:59.57 | Kirkburn | Well, yeah, there's this patch thing that's been release :) |
| 00:59.57 | TS|Skrom | they go down whenever live gets patched |
| 00:59.58 | Hexarobi | for how long |
| 00:59.58 | TS|Skrom | and don't go back up til the next round of testing is needed (for the next patch) |
| 00:59.58 | Hexarobi | o |
| 00:59.58 | Hexarobi | lame |
| 00:59.59 | Kirov | Next major patch |
| 00:59.59 | Kirkburn | i.e. 1.13 :P |
| 00:59.59 | Kirov | otherwise the live realms are the test realms |
| 00:59.59 | Kirkburn | Also known as, the one before the expansion :O |
| 01:00.21 | Kirov | I expect 1.13 to break spell casting on enemy units, and opening up your bags will cost gold. |
| 01:00.23 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 01:00.24 | Kirov | to fix it will require getting the expansion |
| 01:00.29 | Kirov | Which will allow you to attack friendly units at whim too |
| 01:00.29 | Kirov | and let you loot their gear |
| 01:00.30 | Kirkburn | Yay for Aerie Peak's queue having gone down :) |
| 01:00.33 | zenzelezz | do you actually play on Aerie Peak? |
| 01:02.39 | Kirov | Imagine packs of roaming 50s outside of MC killing people and scavanging them for their T1 gear |
| 01:02.40 | Kirkburn | I do have 6 chars on Aerie Peak |
| 01:02.41 | Kirkburn | Although, none are over level 10 :P |
| 01:02.41 | zenzelezz | I was finally able to log back on to Silvermoon (on a new char, after spending an eternity figuring a name)... next I'll try to log onto my main, once I've ran this char to Darnassus |
| 01:02.43 | zenzelezz | almost at Loch Modan now :) |
| 01:02.43 | zenzelezz | hm... forgot to learn the flight paths in Ironforge and Stormwind... and to change my hearthstone location |
| 01:02.44 | Kirkburn | I have 2 chars on silvermoon :P |
| 01:02.46 | zenzelezz | now I do too; though I have doubts I'll keep this one |
| 01:02.46 | zenzelezz | I have alt problems... always go back to main |
| 01:02.47 | Kirkburn | It would be nice if AlphaMap told me it was reloading the UI :/ |
| 01:02.48 | Corrodias | why are you trying to run to darnassus? >_> |
| 01:02.49 | zenzelezz | to level from a new starting zone |
| 01:02.49 | Kirov | zenzelezz - that won't last long |
| 01:02.49 | zenzelezz | almost level 2 from discovery XP \o/ |
| 01:03.43 | TS|Skrom | Someone should update the link on Sky's wiki page to point to Telepathy if Sky is being phased out... |
| 01:03.44 | Kirov | Once you get out of teldrassil to Darkshore you'll be so happy to escape that place that you'll think Darkshore is the greatest ... until about 5 quests in you die of bordom from having to run 10 minutes down the same road over and over each time. |
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| 01:03.44 | Kirov | Somone like ... AnduinLothar? |
| 01:03.46 | TS|Skrom | indeedy |
| 01:03.46 | Kirov | Or you could just mention it to Mikk when he shows and he'll probably do it. |
| 01:03.46 | Kirkburn1 | Wassat? |
| 01:03.47 | Kirov | "zomg, something on the wiki to update!? Mikk to the rescue!"</psuedoMikk> |
| 01:03.47 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 01:03.47 | Kirkburn | If it's something not to do with the UI (like hell), I would say much the same as Mikk ;) |
| 01:03.48 | TS|Skrom | I guess that's why cide was rewriting CT... huh... |
| 01:03.50 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - Cide is rewriting CT because the basic framework on which it's built is nearly 2 years old. |
| 01:03.51 | ckknight | he should use Ace2 as a new framework |
| 01:03.51 | TS|Skrom | oh, so more then just the message changes |
| 01:03.52 | ckknight | and probably some Cosmos |
| 01:03.52 | ckknight | CT_AceMos ftw |
| 01:03.52 | Kirov | A lot of it is exceptionally hacky methodology from when proper api for it didn't exist, and then the api functions were slapped in it's place. |
| 01:03.53 | TS|Skrom | gotcha |
| 01:03.54 | Kirov | For 1.12, he basically just replaced the SendChatMessage with SendAddonMessage and was done with it, so a lot of the weird code leftover to deal with channel joining delays and funkyness is still in place. |
| 01:03.54 | Kirov | I think he axed the s / S translation though |
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| 01:03.58 | Osagasu | Anyone else having problems with their buff displays? |
| 01:04.31 | Maldivia | Osagasu: I'll let you know, as soon as my server gets on :| |
| 01:04.31 | Maldivia | up* |
| 01:04.32 | Kirov | can anyone do a /dump Minimap:GetRegions() and see if the background gets returned now |
| 01:04.32 | TS|Skrom | see you all tomorrow |
| 01:04.33 | *** part/#wowi-lounge TS|Skrom (n=Skrom@66.148.226.210.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 01:04.46 | Osagasu | Cause I'm in WSG and all the buffs and debuffs get stuck in place. |
| 01:04.47 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. anyone tried to fix Enhanced Flight Map ? The coder seems to be abandoned the mod :( |
| 01:04.48 | YammYgirlcoding | no? |
| 01:04.48 | Kirkburn | Yay, it's snowing in WoW! |
| 01:04.48 | YammYgirlcoding | ¬¬ |
| 01:04.48 | Kirkburn | That makes it all better :P |
| 01:04.48 | Osagasu | I'm thinking it may be Archaeologist that's mucked up but I haven't gotten into a BG since I noticed it |
| 01:04.48 | Kirkburn | YammYgirlcoding, it's not abandoned :) |
| 01:05.49 | Kirkburn | The dev doesn't use the UI sites any more :/ |
| 01:05.49 | YammYgirlcoding | 4 months without updates :( |
| 01:05.49 | Kirkburn | I'll just look for the website |
| 01:05.49 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm at the site, the last updated was in june |
| 01:05.49 | YammYgirlcoding | today it triggered a lot of errors :( |
| 01:05.50 | YammYgirlcoding | http://lysaddons.game-host.org/efm/index.html < last old version :( |
| 01:05.50 | Kirkburn | ah |
| 01:05.50 | Kirkburn | Not sure then |
| 01:05.50 | YammYgirlcoding | any good soul lover of EFM, that could take a litle look with me ? |
| 01:05.59 | YammYgirlcoding | =) |
| 01:06.01 | Kirkburn | What about FlightMap, that still updated? |
| 01:06.03 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm i think it does a diferent thing |
| 01:06.04 | zenzelezz | what does EFM do? |
| 01:06.05 | YammYgirlcoding | It's the original one, without the improvements of the ENhanced one |
| 01:06.05 | YammYgirlcoding | it enhances the flight map =) |
| 01:06.07 | zenzelezz | yeah, I sort of guessed... was hoping for details |
| 01:06.07 | YammYgirlcoding | it put the flights maps at the wind rider frame |
| 01:06.08 | YammYgirlcoding | and counts times of flight, marks which ones we know |
| 01:06.09 | zenzelezz | oh |
| 01:06.11 | YammYgirlcoding | there is another flight addon, but it puts on the world map, and I don't like it, I preffer it at the wind rider frame =) |
| 01:06.12 | YammYgirlcoding | the bugs triggereds because of the patch are about those nil values things, so I hope it's a simple fix that I still haven't learned to fix, but soon I will !! =) |
| 01:06.15 | zenzelezz | did they improve the quest log graphics? o_O |
| 01:06.15 | zenzelezz | or rather... change |
| 01:06.17 | YammYgirlcoding | guys! I found the EFM forum !! The coder is working on a beta version! yay! \o/ |
| 01:06.17 | YammYgirlcoding | I love these guys! :D |
| 01:06.17 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 01:06.17 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 01:06.17 | Kirkburn | I'm really impressed with AlphaMap |
| 01:06.18 | zenzelezz | what's that again? |
| 01:06.18 | Osagasu | If you use FuBar, there's always ToFu. |
| 01:06.18 | Kirkburn | An advanced map addon |
| 01:06.18 | YammYgirlcoding | lol |
| 01:06.18 | Kaso | thats a great addon name |
| 01:07.15 | Kirkburn | Combines Atlas and the world map with lots of extras |
| 01:07.16 | YammYgirlcoding | tofu is a funny combination in portuguese.. |
| 01:07.16 | Osagasu | Tofu is a funny combination in English! |
| 01:07.16 | Hexarobi | i think he means like bologna and cherries |
| 01:07.17 | YammYgirlcoding | tofu in portuguese means I'm fu(cked) |
| 01:07.18 | YammYgirlcoding | lol |
| 01:07.18 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 01:07.18 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 01:07.18 | Hexarobi | in america it means beans shaped into cubes |
| 01:07.19 | YammYgirlcoding | ah the food thing |
| 01:07.19 | YammYgirlcoding | ^^ |
| 01:07.19 | Hexarobi | exactly, the food-like thing |
| 01:07.19 | Cairenn | I would have to go with Hexarobi's interpretation as well ... "the food *like* thing" ... I'd be hard pressed to say that tofu is actual food |
| 01:07.20 | zenzelezz | hey, they changed the color of the Tome of Conjure Food VII! No more silently looting it :-( |
| 01:07.20 | Osagasu | heh |
| 01:07.20 | Hexarobi | calling tofu "bean cubes" made it easier to eat |
| 01:07.21 | AnduinLothar | heh |
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| 01:08.46 | BLG | Does LUA have bitshifting? |
| 01:08.50 | kergoth | BLG: lua itself does not. there is the 'bitlib' library which does, however, and that was added to wow |
| 01:08.52 | BLG | o rly? |
| 01:08.53 | BLG | Where art thou epic documentations? |
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| 01:10.02 | Tokusei | Hey guys |
| 01:10.02 | Cairenn | hi Tokusei |
| 01:10.03 | Tokusei | got a quick question >.> |
| 01:10.04 | Tokusei | You wouldn't happen to know if there is a mod available which changes player nameplates fonts ;x? |
| 01:10.04 | Tokusei | Name & Guild above thier head |
| 01:10.07 | Cairenn | pick a tooltip mod, any tooltip mod ;) |
| 01:10.12 | Tokusei | For the text above players heads :|? |
| 01:10.13 | Cairenn | yup |
| 01:10.13 | Cairenn | oh ... nm, I understand what you mean |
| 01:10.13 | Kirov | ClearFont is able to do that I think. |
| 01:10.14 | Cairenn | sorry, my mistake |
| 01:10.15 | Tokusei | :> |
| 01:10.16 | Tokusei | I just tried clearfont |
| 01:10.18 | Cairenn | no, you can't, that's part of the 3D world, we can't affect that at all |
| 01:10.20 | Tokusei | Okay :) Thanks for the help anyway |
| 01:10.21 | Cairenn | np, sorry it wasn't the answer you didn't want ot hear |
| 01:10.22 | Tokusei | np ;p |
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| 01:10.23 | Hexarobi | way to not use no double negatives cair |
| 01:10.52 | Hexarobi | not |
| 01:10.52 | Kirkburn | Yo, player nameplate fonts can be changed :) |
| 01:10.52 | Cairenn | bleh, so I did |
| 01:10.52 | Kirkburn | But not easily :P |
| 01:10.53 | Kirkburn | ClearFont can do it in an indirect way |
| 01:10.53 | Kirkburn | The top-level fonts folder it comes with can do it |
| 01:10.53 | BLG | Says attempt to call global "lshift" (a nil value) |
| 01:10.54 | Kirkburn | Waitasec, actually, ... I'm going to check this |
| 01:10.54 | Kirov | BLG - bitlib.lshift |
| 01:10.54 | ckknight | I thought bit.lshift |
| 01:10.54 | BLG | ckknight is right |
| 01:10.54 | Tokusei | oh wait |
| 01:10.54 | BLG | I just found it out |
| 01:10.54 | Tokusei | it is possible |
| 01:10.54 | BLG | Cheers guys |
| 01:10.55 | Tokusei | You can change the fort in the clearfont LUA File |
| 01:10.55 | Tokusei | but, I don't know how ._. |
| 01:10.55 | Kirkburn | Checked the readme? :) |
| 01:10.55 | Kirkburn | I'm the developer btw |
| 01:10.55 | Tokusei | >.< |
| 01:10.56 | Tokusei | I can see how, but I'm not sure |
| 01:11.01 | Tokusei | I added the variable local YOUR_FONT_STYLE = CLEAR_FONT_BASE .. "PNP.TTF"; |
| 01:11.03 | Tokusei | So where is asks the font name it's your_font_style? |
| 01:11.05 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 01:11.51 | Tokusei | -- Names above people's heads |
| 01:11.51 | Tokusei | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.54 | Tokusei | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.00 | Tokusei | Replace with my_font_style; right :>? |
| 01:12.08 | Kirkburn | What's up with purl?? |
| 01:12.10 | Tokusei | Clear_font that is |
| 01:12.15 | Kirkburn | Yep |
| 01:12.19 | Tokusei | aight, thanks :) |
| 01:12.22 | Kirkburn | np |
| 01:12.38 | Kirkburn | Sorry Cairenn :P I'm just too good ;) |
| 01:12.45 | Kirkburn | Tokusei, I'm about to release a new version of ClearFont for 1.12 =) |
| 01:12.45 | Cairenn | and I just suck ... read it wrong twice |
| 01:15.35 | Kirkburn | Um, is there a reason for purl's sudden outburst? |
| 01:15.46 | Cairenn | presumably someone sent the ~sigh Kirkburn msg to it |
| 01:16.32 | Tokusei | Kirkburn |
| 01:16.32 | Tokusei | :o |
| 01:16.32 | Tokusei | I thought this one was already updated ? |
| 01:16.33 | Kirkburn | Well, I did a small 1.12 update in 11100-3, but I'm going to release an official one (v11200-1) with some more stuff |
| 01:16.35 | Tokusei | Ah right :) |
| 01:16.35 | Tokusei | Any eta ;)? |
| 01:16.35 | Kirkburn | Soon ;) |
| 01:16.38 | Kirkburn | Like maybe less than an hour |
| 01:16.49 | Tokusei | Nice, I'll check the site :p |
| 01:16.49 | Tokusei | ui.wow is down for me ;< |
| 01:16.52 | Cairenn | so get it from WoWI ;) |
| 01:16.55 | Tokusei | ;p |
| 01:17.12 | Maldivia | uhh, love the new COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE event :) |
| 01:17.47 | Kirkburn | I'm just updating the documentation atm, in testing it all worked, Tokusei :) |
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| 01:17.55 | Tokusei | Nice Kirkburn :> |
| 01:17.55 | Grumpey | eya |
| 01:17.55 | Tokusei | I'm waiting! :D |
| 01:17.55 | Tokusei | Oh, btw |
| 01:17.59 | Tokusei | nvm ;p |
| 01:21.46 | BLG | You can't do hex constants in LUA? >_> |
| 01:21.47 | BLG | Like 0xFF |
| 01:21.52 | Thrae | BLG: No, why would you need to? |
| 01:21.53 | Kirov | tables, userdata, strings, bools, and floats |
| 01:21.54 | Thrae | Blizzard only uses Hex as strings. |
| 01:21.54 | BLG | Bit masking |
| 01:21.55 | ckknight | BLG, tonumber("FF", 16) |
| 01:21.57 | BLG | Well, I might as well just precalculate that heh |
| 01:21.59 | ckknight | local FF = tonumber("FF", 16) |
| 01:22.00 | ckknight | tada. |
| 01:22.01 | ckknight | now you have a "hex constant" |
| 01:22.06 | chuckg | Anyone else notice a signifigant chagne in the tradeskill/crafting frames? |
| 01:22.11 | chuckg | They're like running a sql query, sloooooooooooooow. |
| 01:22.13 | chuckg | You click an item and it takes almost a full second for all the mats to show up. |
| 01:22.15 | ckknight | SQL queries can be pretty fast. |
| 01:22.16 | Kirkburn | What's an easy way to mask the word "Calibri", without it being unrecognisable? I just want it so it won't come up on searches |
| 01:22.17 | Kirkburn | Oooh, I thought of a way ... "CaIibri" :) |
| 01:22.22 | chuckg | I know they can ck, but I don't expect them to be in WoW :) |
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| 01:23.50 | BLG | By the way, what's the deal with being unable to call local functions because they are not global, even from the same script |
| 01:23.52 | BLG | Isn't that the whole point of them being local? |
| 01:23.57 | cogwheel | BLG, i don't understand... |
| 01:23.59 | cogwheel | can you pastey.net an example of what doesn't work? |
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| 01:24.03 | Maldivia | hmm, are there any events that fires, when a unit dies? |
| 01:24.37 | Thrae | COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE isn't on WoWWiki, how does it work? |
| 01:24.37 | Osagasu | Alright, my Buff problem is Archaeologist. Or at least its the catalyst. |
| 01:24.39 | Maldivia | Thrae: added in this patch, trigers when you gain/loose a buff, when you take damage, when you get healed etc |
| 01:24.39 | Maldivia | Thrae: but more interestingly, when it triggers on buff gain/loss, it actually contains the name of the buff |
| 01:24.41 | Thrae | Maldivia: Hmmmm interesting, does it remove the need for combat log parsing libs entirely? |
| 01:24.41 | ckknight | kirkburn? |
| 01:24.42 | Kirov | Thrae - no |
| 01:24.42 | Thrae | IE, does it give you the arguments that are added into the pattern? |
| 01:24.42 | Maldivia | Thrae: depends which information you're interested in |
| 01:24.42 | Kirov | Thrae - only a very limited set of information |
| 01:24.43 | Thrae | Awww, oh well |
| 01:24.45 | Thrae | Rophy is doing an excellent job on ParserLib. CHAT_MSG events are such a mess. |
| 01:24.45 | Maldivia | for me, the most intersting part is the gain/loss buff message, with the name of the buff |
| 01:24.46 | Kirkburn1 | ckknight, hello? |
| 01:24.46 | Thrae | Yeah that's pretty cool. |
| 01:24.46 | zenzelezz | for buffs/debuffs that stack, does it indicate how many applications it has? |
| 01:24.46 | ckknight | Kirkburn, what about Calibri? |
| 01:24.49 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: hmm, don't know, haven't tested that yet |
| 01:24.49 | Kirkburn | I was trying to think of a way to mask the name Calibri on my website |
| 01:24.49 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:24.49 | Kirkburn | I don't it coming up as a download location you see :P |
| 01:24.50 | ckknight | how would you do that? |
| 01:24.50 | ckknight | ah, right. |
| 01:24.51 | Kirkburn | I swapped the l for a capital I |
| 01:24.51 | ckknight | ah. |
| 01:24.51 | Kirkburn | Calibri --> CalIbri ;) |
| 01:24.51 | Kirkburn | oops |
| 01:24.51 | Kirkburn | CaIibri, I mean |
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| 01:24.52 | Maldivia | Cal<span style="display: hidden">Muhahaha</span>ibri ? |
| 01:24.54 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 01:24.55 | Kirkburn | that might have been better |
| 01:26.12 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: approved |
| 01:26.17 | Kirkburn | Except it doesn't work, Maldivia :( |
| 01:26.23 | Kirkburn | Yay Cairenn :! |
| 01:26.27 | Kirkburn | Thanks :) |
| 01:26.29 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: ohh? |
| 01:26.34 | Maldivia | display: none; then :) |
| 01:26.37 | Kirkburn | Tokusei, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4283-ClearFont.html :D |
| 01:26.42 | Kirkburn | Better, Maldivia :) |
| 01:26.44 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: copy-pasting the shown text has a nice side effect :) |
| 01:26.51 | Kirkburn | loool |
| 01:26.52 | Tokusei | Kirkburn |
| 01:26.53 | Tokusei | thanks :> |
| 01:26.55 | AnduinLothar | is there a site somewhere that says how much it'll take to rank this week on your server? |
| 01:26.58 | Kirkburn | Impossible to say now they've changed the rules, surely |
| 01:27.01 | Kirkburn | No-one knows how many get into the upper ranks atm |
| 01:27.10 | Tokusei | oh btw |
| 01:27.11 | Tokusei | noone knows of a chatmod which has Sticky Chat channel |
| 01:27.12 | Tokusei | and lets you move the chat editbox |
| 01:27.13 | Tokusei | I was using Confab + Chatbox, but they seem to bug :< |
| 01:27.13 | Kirkburn | ChatBox has a beta out |
| 01:27.14 | Tokusei | What about confab ? |
| 01:27.15 | AnduinLothar | ChatBar |
| 01:27.15 | Cairenn | chat frame extender |
| 01:27.16 | Tokusei | ok :> |
| 01:27.20 | Cairenn | chatex |
| 01:27.21 | Kirov | chatRandomWordHere |
| 01:27.22 | Kirkburn | chatty, chatage, chate, chatting |
| 01:27.24 | ckknight | chatmonster |
| 01:27.25 | Kirov | chatkitten |
| 01:27.25 | Tokusei | Which mods can move the editbox :x? |
| 01:27.26 | zenzelezz | chateau |
| 01:27.56 | Cairenn | chat frame extender |
| 01:27.56 | Cairenn | chatex |
| 01:27.56 | Tokusei | Okay :) |
| 01:27.56 | Kirkburn | ClearFont is up on wowi and CG now :) |
| 01:27.57 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5262-ChatEx_-Revisited-.html |
| 01:27.57 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4205 |
| 01:27.59 | Tokusei | got it :) |
| 01:27.59 | Cairenn | and others as mentioned |
| 01:28.02 | Tokusei | oh |
| 01:28.02 | Tokusei | Kirkburn |
| 01:28.03 | Tokusei | you added ecb font |
| 01:28.03 | Tokusei | <3 :D |
| 01:28.03 | Kirkburn | eCastingBar? |
| 01:28.03 | Tokusei | yar |
| 01:28.03 | Kirkburn | I did do that :) |
| 01:28.04 | Tokusei | the default font doesn't scale :/ heh |
| 01:28.05 | clad|gym | ~seen kaelten |
| 01:28.23 | purl | kaelten <n=Kaelten@68.63.37.188> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23m 51s ago, saying: 'ckknight: any questions about AL2.1?'. |
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| 01:28.24 | clad|gym | woot |
| 01:28.24 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:28.25 | clad|gym | <-- psychic |
| 01:28.25 | cladhaire | Kaelten: PING :P |
| 01:28.26 | Kaelten | pong! |
| 01:28.26 | Kaelten | sup ? |
| 01:28.31 | Kaelten | you know its bad when your server starts to let people download your php files |
| 01:28.46 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 01:28.47 | Tokusei | Cairenn |
| 01:28.47 | Cairenn | ? |
| 01:28.47 | Tokusei | do you know how to make certain channels sticky in chatex ;p? |
| 01:28.48 | Cairenn | nope |
| 01:28.49 | Tokusei | Okay |
| 01:28.49 | Cairenn | don't use it, so couldn't tell you |
| 01:28.49 | Cairenn | did you read the description? |
| 01:28.49 | cladhaire | Anyone know where the auto-self cast logic lies off the top of their heads? |
| 01:28.49 | cladhaire | cause it uber breaks clique |
| 01:28.49 | Tokusei | yeah, didnt say anything so ;/ |
| 01:28.50 | cladhaire | and i dont think i can fix it. |
| 01:28.50 | Warla | yay cladhaire |
| 01:28.50 | cladhaire | ? |
| 01:28.50 | Warla | i remade my tooltips :-) |
| 01:28.50 | Warla | they look like in wow |
| 01:28.51 | cladhaire | ? |
| 01:28.51 | cladhaire | oh |
| 01:28.51 | cladhaire | hot! |
| 01:28.51 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:28.51 | Warla | they even adjust in size like in wow :-) |
| 01:28.51 | Warla | <Decky> Dr. Warren G. Butt |
| 01:28.51 | Warla | <Grievous> i never played a rogue before |
| 01:28.51 | Warla | <Grievous> pot more thx |
| 01:28.51 | Warla | <Decky> 4745 Ogletown Specialties |
| 01:28.51 | Warla | damn |
| 01:28.52 | Warla | wrong paste |
| 01:28.52 | Warla | https://72.22.83.143:8443/sitepreview/http/test.ch/?id=1 |
| 01:28.52 | Warla | this is right one |
| 01:28.53 | Kirov | that's an ... odd link |
| 01:28.53 | Warla | yea |
| 01:28.53 | Warla | no webname registered yet ^^' |
| 01:28.53 | Warla | at the moment the project isnt finished anyway |
| 01:28.54 | Kirov | It's a cool site though, saw it when you posted on the forum the first time |
| 01:28.54 | Warla | so once its complete i'll register a webname and slap it on my good fast webspace |
| 01:28.54 | Warla | i hope my ISP wont go nuts |
| 01:28.54 | Warla | he already hates me for my other website |
| 01:28.54 | Warla | http://www.wc3sear.ch/ <-- damn nasty traffic :-/ |
| 01:28.54 | Kirov | Warla - There was a security concern that someone brought up about this site. |
| 01:28.55 | cladhaire | Warla: nice |
| 01:28.55 | Kirov | Warla - basically, this site would be an account hacker's dream. |
| 01:28.55 | Warla | what security concern other than the bogus SSL certificate? |
| 01:28.55 | Warla | which one? wc3search? |
| 01:28.55 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Greywind (n=chatzill@74.131.107.214) |
| 01:28.59 | Kirov | No, the profiles site. Search through a couple of accounts, see what people have in their mail / bank / etc. Go try to hack their account. |
| 01:28.59 | Warla | lol |
| 01:28.59 | Warla | thats only for morons that have crappy passwords |
| 01:28.59 | Warla | or share their accs with others |
| 01:29.42 | Warla | i'm very paranoia about my account |
| 01:29.42 | Kirov | Warla - which would be around 90% of the wow population |
| 01:29.42 | Kirov | >.< |
| 01:29.43 | Warla | not even my girlfriend gets the user/pass hehe |
| 01:29.43 | Kirov | My girlfriend and I have eachother's account info, but no one else. |
| 01:29.43 | Warla | beside the website does not store the account name |
| 01:29.43 | Kirov | We sit in the same room though when playing wow, so it's useful for getting the other person logged in. |
| 01:29.43 | Warla | it only displays the chars |
| 01:29.43 | Kirov | This is true. |
| 01:29.43 | Warla | the mod i'm working on i'll implement preferences options |
| 01:29.43 | Warla | so you can limit the info exported |
| 01:29.44 | Warla | like |
| 01:29.44 | Warla | so mails |
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| 01:29.44 | Warla | no mails |
| 01:29.44 | Warla | no bags |
| 01:29.44 | Warla | no bank |
| 01:29.44 | Warla | e.t.x |
| 01:29.45 | Kirov | aye, good idea. |
| 01:29.45 | Warla | minimum would propably be Talents, Rep, Honor and Skills |
| 01:29.45 | Warla | and the inventory |
| 01:29.45 | Warla | with the various crit/dodge e.t.c stats |
| 01:29.45 | Warla | i'll also implement the screenshot of the char directly into my mod |
| 01:29.45 | Warla | hehe |
| 01:29.46 | Warla | so you give in an URL to the picture |
| 01:29.46 | MentalPower | Warla: I've been asked this my people from my guild. Is your char's info there accurate, ie do you have all bottomless bags and almost ever single faction exalted? or did you cheat somewhat with the uploaded info? |
| 01:29.46 | _Valgrind | Still no logging in on Shadowsong EU. I might actuallty have to do something... usefull instead. |
| 01:29.47 | Warla | and once uploaded it uses that URL for the screenshot |
| 01:29.47 | Warla | MentalPower |
| 01:29.47 | Warla | it is accurate |
| 01:29.47 | Warla | i'm a wow addict |
| 01:29.48 | Warla | ;-) |
| 01:29.48 | Warla | 270 days played on warla |
| 01:29.49 | Warla | that also explains the reputation bars ^^ |
| 01:29.50 | Kirov | Warla - bah, screw screenshots ... port wowmodelviewer to cgi |
| 01:29.50 | Warla | heh |
| 01:29.50 | Warla | hmm |
| 01:29.51 | Warla | actually i have a buddy who could propably do that |
| 01:29.51 | Kirov | eek |
| 01:29.51 | Warla | but how find out how your char is modded? |
| 01:29.51 | Warla | what hair? |
| 01:29.51 | Warla | what color skin? |
| 01:29.52 | Warla | cannt figure out |
| 01:29.52 | Kirov | from the UI? |
| 01:29.52 | Kirov | not possible, afaik |
| 01:29.53 | Warla | i dont think you have access |
| 01:29.53 | Kirov | at least not outside of glue |
| 01:29.53 | Warla | to those data |
| 01:29.53 | Kirkburn | You may be interesting to know ... I have got links to brand new footage of Portal and Team Fortress 2 and HL2: Episode 2 :D |
| 01:29.54 | MentalPower | Kirkburn: links? |
| 01:29.54 | Kirkburn | Portal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRqkFjo6du4 |
| 01:29.55 | Kirkburn | TF2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueuhj9WsDzk |
| 01:29.55 | Kirkburn | HL2:Ep2: http://www.hlfallout.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=56318 |
| 01:29.55 | Kirkburn | (5 vids linked on that thread) |
| 01:29.55 | jaxdahl | when is hl2ep2 coming? |
| 01:29.56 | Kirkburn | End of the year |
| 01:29.56 | _Valgrind | TF2 should be fun, but I will probably play Fortress Forever more if it gets out and is anywhere as announced. |
| 01:29.56 | _Valgrind | s/anywhere/anywhere near/ |
| 01:29.57 | Kirkburn | TF2 looks *awesome* |
| 01:29.57 | Tokusei | Kirkburn |
| 01:29.57 | _Valgrind | Yup. |
| 01:29.57 | Tokusei | not sure if it's my ui |
| 01:29.57 | Tokusei | cut "CT_" text it bugged :p |
| 01:29.57 | Kirkburn | how so? |
| 01:29.57 | Tokusei | Oh sorry |
| 01:29.58 | Tokusei | the Underscore shows beneath the Letter |
| 01:29.58 | Tokusei | kinda squishing the text |
| 01:29.58 | Kirkburn | Freaky |
| 01:29.58 | Tokusei | does it happen on yours or? |
| 01:30.00 | Kirkburn | Nah, I don't use CT stuff except CT_raid |
| 01:30.00 | Tokusei | it's any underscore |
| 01:30.37 | Tokusei | with the Chat/Menu Text |
| 01:30.37 | Kirkburn | weird ... sounds like a font issue |
| 01:30.38 | Kirkburn | Not game breaking at least :) |
| 01:30.40 | Tokusei | Yeah :p |
| 01:31.07 | _Valgrind | Talking about CT_*, does anyone have contact information for Cide or TS? I have some changes to CT_MailMod I'd like to push upstream and ctmod.net isn't very informative on that point right now. |
| 01:31.09 | Cairenn | Cide isn't on right now but he's usually in channel |
| 01:31.10 | Cairenn | you can always put info in their portal on WoWI, too, or in their forums |
| 01:31.12 | _Valgrind | They have portals and forums? I obviously need to surf some more. :) |
| 01:31.14 | cladhaire | that was one of the wierdest meals i've ever eaten.. i had rice, by itself, broccoli by itself, then turkey sausage on a plate. |
| 01:31.15 | cladhaire | poor planning ftl |
| 01:31.15 | _Valgrind | heh |
| 01:31.16 | cladhaire | it was delicious either way |
| 01:31.19 | Kirkburn | New screenshots!! http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/screenshots.html |
| 01:31.30 | Kirkburn | Mighty sexy screenies, I must add! |
| 01:31.37 | Cairenn | ctmod forums: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28 , ctmod portal: http://cide.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=11 :p |
| 01:31.39 | _Valgrind | Thanks Carienn! :) |
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| 01:31.43 | gutano | I remember a long time ago there was a console/script command to show what functions the UI was calling... some sort of verbose output option... does this still exist? have i gone mad? |
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| 01:32.23 | Tokusei | Has titan been updated? |
| 01:32.23 | ckknight | who still uses Titan :-P |
| 01:32.23 | Tokusei | Titan prefomance ;o |
| 01:32.23 | Tokusei | = win |
| 01:32.24 | Cairenn | and for those that do ... which version? there's like eleventy bazillion different versions out there now |
| 01:32.24 | ckknight | Tokusei, ever tried PerformanceFu? |
| 01:32.24 | _Valgrind | Half of my guildies do. I never liked the idea of an OS-like menubar in the game though. |
| 01:32.24 | ckknight | yes, one nice thing about FuBar is my tyrannical hold on it, thus preventing any forks |
| 01:32.24 | Tokusei | ckknight, nope ? |
| 01:32.24 | ckknight | Tokusei, you may want to try it, you'll probably be pleasantly surprised |
| 01:32.24 | Tokusei | What it iw :3? |
| 01:32.24 | Tokusei | *is |
| 01:32.25 | ckknight | um, no? |
| 01:32.25 | Tokusei | oh, is WT_Zonefix etc useless now, or do they stil work? |
| 01:32.25 | Arrowmaster | useless |
| 01:32.25 | Legorol | hehe, i find this amusing: https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/ |
| 01:32.25 | Legorol | Paragraph 8: |
| 01:32.25 | Legorol | 8. Confidentiality. The existence of the Friends and Family Alpha Test and all elements thereof (including without limitation this Agreement) is confidential |
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| 01:32.26 | Legorol | also: |
| 01:32.26 | Legorol | you agree that you will not disclose the following: |
| 01:32.26 | Legorol | (i) The existence of a Friends and Family Alpha Test. |
| 01:32.26 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 01:32.26 | Cairenn | standard nda |
| 01:32.26 | Kirkburn | Really well hidden, isn't it :P |
| 01:32.26 | Cairenn | they just screwed up :p |
| 01:32.26 | Legorol | well to be honest, if someone doesn't post the link, how do you find it? |
| 01:32.26 | Legorol | it's pretty well hidden imo |
| 01:32.27 | Kirkburn | It might be standard, but I still think it sounds like "Sign this agreement which doesn't exist" :P |
| 01:32.27 | Legorol | but of course now that the link is public knowledge, it's too late |
| 01:32.27 | cladhaire | Legorol: Did you see all the leaks |
| 01:32.27 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:32.27 | Legorol | nope |
| 01:32.27 | cladhaire | huge leak about mage talents. |
| 01:32.27 | cladhaire | and trainable skills for all classes |
| 01:32.27 | Astryl | link? |
| 01:32.27 | Astryl | ...Or where to look? |
| 01:32.31 | AnduinLothar | wow, I think i've had the worst pvp day ever today... |
| 01:32.31 | cladhaire | foh |
| 01:32.31 | AnduinLothar | AB lost 1990 to 2000 |
| 01:32.31 | Kirkburn | Dammit, my IRC log doesn't go back far enough |
| 01:32.33 | AnduinLothar | AV lost when we had drek at 2% |
| 01:32.33 | AnduinLothar | and I just lost a WSG after 47min 2 to 3 and running the flag 5 times... |
| 01:32.33 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.34 | cladhaire | not logged btw =) |
| 01:32.34 | Kirkburn | http://www.shangified.com/expac.txt |
| 01:32.34 | Kirkburn | Well, I posted the raw text file :P |
| 01:32.35 | cladhaire | hehe that sa mirror :P |
| 01:32.35 | snurre | all info so far has been from that one text file |
| 01:32.35 | cladhaire | the orig was a different host hrm |
| 01:32.35 | cladhaire | Create Spellstone (Master) (60): Creates a Master Spellstone for the caster. When equipped and used, the Master Spellstone removes all harmful magic effects from the caster and will absorb 1350 magic damage for 1 min. In addition, equipping the Master Spellstone improves your chance to get a critical strike with spells by 14%. |
| 01:32.35 | snurre | im surprised there has been no additional info about other classes |
| 01:32.35 | Kirkburn | The threads linking or posting the log were deleted |
| 01:32.36 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.36 | snurre | ofcourse they were, Kirkburn. There's an NDA to the beta, so no such info is allowed on public forums |
| 01:32.36 | snurre | but since when did the guild forums care? |
| 01:32.36 | snurre | like EJ, curse etc |
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| 01:32.39 | cladhaire | someone claims to have ss's of each talent tree |
| 01:32.39 | snurre | givf, can't wait until tomorrow :p |
| 01:32.39 | cladhaire | haha |
| 01:32.40 | cladhaire | i would 100% abide by the NDA |
| 01:32.40 | cladhaire | but i'd never get chosen =/ |
| 01:33.39 | snurre | "i have pictures prooving who really shot JFK, aliens, and a 3 headed girrafe, but of course im not sharing." |
| 01:33.39 | ckknight | loch ness monster, too |
| 01:33.39 | cladhaire | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=677961&p=1&tmp=1#post677961 is funny if you havent heard it. |
| 01:33.39 | snurre | i have 3 keys waiting for me tomorrow morning :( |
| 01:33.40 | ckknight | oh, and Bigfoot |
| 01:33.40 | Cairenn | cladhaire: dead link |
| 01:33.40 | cladhaire | ooh |
| 01:33.40 | cladhaire | damn.. i'll try and scrounge the mp3. |
| 01:33.40 | cladhaire | the mp3 was nsfw.. but was.. hilarious. |
| 01:33.40 | snurre | the DnT drama? |
| 01:33.41 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:33.41 | Warla | damn keyring is pissing me off |
| 01:33.41 | Cairenn | DnT drama? |
| 01:33.41 | cladhaire | which barely had anything to do with DnT |
| 01:33.41 | snurre | http://www.randomdestination.com/Zach/markrycan.mp3 |
| 01:33.42 | cladhaire | aah spanks :P |
| 01:33.42 | snurre | yeh, some guy applied for a guild and got in, claiming he had been the hunter class leader in DnT |
| 01:33.43 | Cairenn | holy o hell, 15.5 mb? |
| 01:33.43 | cladhaire | shit. |
| 01:33.43 | cladhaire | AutoSelfCast uses cvars =/ |
| 01:33.44 | cladhaire | so do I just tell my users they can't use auto-self-cast with Clique? |
| 01:33.44 | cladhaire | cause it.. REALLY breaks things. |
| 01:33.45 | norgs_away | i get into guilds by claiming i'm the author of auctioneer and gatherer - lol |
| 01:33.46 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:33.47 | Kirkburn1 | hehe |
| 01:33.47 | phyber | ahh, that's where I remember the name norganna from. |
| 01:33.47 | Kirkburn1 | What, you aren't? \o/ :) |
| 01:33.48 | phyber | was irritating me for a while :p |
| 01:33.49 | Cairenn | omg |
| 01:33.50 | norgs | yeah, i am... but they don't know that. |
| 01:33.51 | snurre | the last time i got asked to join a guild was basically: "So, do you wanna join the guild?" "If my 15ish friends can join too" "Ok." :p |
| 01:33.51 | norgs | plus it has a *lot* of code by other people |
| 01:33.51 | Astryl | lol, I heard that mp3. |
| 01:33.53 | Astryl | Anyone want to help debug a function? |
| 01:33.54 | Astryl | http://pastebin.com/774465 |
| 01:33.54 | Astryl | It works perfectly... except freezes wow occasionally |
| 01:33.54 | Astryl | Put in several checks to make sure the while loop doesn't go on infinitely, but it still does sometimes. |
| 01:33.55 | Astryl | Anyone wanna take a look and see if they can tell why? |
| 01:33.56 | snurre | If I had any idea about lua, and if I wasn't about to go to bed |
| 01:33.56 | Astryl | :) |
| 01:33.56 | cladhaire | not sure |
| 01:33.56 | cladhaire | discord macro library has both functinos tho =) |
| 01:33.56 | cladhaire | that might give you some inspiration |
| 01:33.57 | Astryl | Both? |
| 01:33.57 | cladhaire | Arathi Basin raining is so pretty =) |
| 01:33.57 | snurre | I'm more of the "okay, I'll test the addon and see how much it fucks up." "omg, my wow is broken, fix plx!" "thanks, works better now" kind of a guy |
| 01:33.57 | norgs | what causes FeralSkills_TargetLowestHealthEnemy() to get called? |
| 01:33.59 | Astryl | My macro. |
| 01:33.59 | Tokusei | Hmm |
| 01:33.59 | Astryl | Just a macro to call that. |
| 01:33.59 | Tokusei | wasn't there a bag mod which allowed you to search all your chars? |
| 01:33.59 | norgs | which is triggered by a keypress/click |
| 01:33.59 | Astryl | Aye. |
| 01:34.00 | _Valgrind | Tokusei: Characterviewer? |
| 01:34.00 | snurre | Tokusei: OneView? MyBags? think Bagnon does it too |
| 01:34.00 | Tokusei | Bagnon doesn't do it ;/ |
| 01:34.01 | Astryl | I think Sanity does that. |
| 01:34.01 | Cairenn | hahahahha, strongbad references! |
| 01:35.23 | snurre | OneBag/OneBank/OneView does it tho |
| 01:35.23 | Tokusei | looking for a all-in-one bank mod |
| 01:35.23 | Tokusei | with a search function |
| 01:35.24 | Tokusei | any suggestions :p? |
| 01:35.25 | Kirkburn1 | Bagnon can show you the bags of all your other chars |
| 01:35.25 | Tokusei | it can? |
| 01:35.26 | Kirkburn1 | With the latest version, it can |
| 01:35.27 | Kirkburn1 | No search though |
| 01:35.27 | cladhaire | does anyoen have the quest overlay texture exported anywhere that they can send me in tga? |
| 01:35.35 | phyber | Bagnon has been able to show you the bags of other chars for ages. |
| 01:35.36 | phyber | not just in the latest version |
| 01:35.36 | norgs | Astryl: can't see anything wrong with it |
| 01:35.37 | phyber | banks too |
| 01:35.37 | Cairenn | cladhaire: somewhere or other, gimme a couple, will dig it out for you |
| 01:35.37 | Astryl | Darn, thanks. |
| 01:35.39 | cladhaire | np |
| 01:35.40 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 01:35.44 | Kirkburn1 | Okay, I'm just saying that the latest version is able to :P |
| 01:35.45 | norgs | Astryl: probably need to put in some debugging prints. |
| 01:35.45 | phyber | :) |
| 01:35.46 | Astryl | If it helps, it seems to happen when I start out with a pet targetted, then turn around so that nobody is targetable in front of me, or something |
| 01:35.49 | Cairenn | cladhaire: incoming |
| 01:35.49 | cladhaire | thanks hun |
| 01:35.53 | Cairenn | I've got all the ingame stuff converted and saved |
| 01:35.57 | Astryl | Norg, how would the debugs help? When it crashes, the screen freezes, so I'd never see the prints. |
| 01:35.59 | MentalPower | anyone tried ArchLord? |
| 01:35.59 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Holy shit this is awesome. |
| 01:35.59 | Cairenn | ? |
| 01:35.59 | cladhaire | that you have these. |
| 01:36.00 | cladhaire | is anyone here a graphics person.. cause i know what i want.. and i know its easy.. i just suck at making them |
| 01:36.00 | Cairenn | <== to one degree or another, that's why I've got them all converted |
| 01:36.00 | Astryl | Vaguely yes, clad. |
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| 01:36.03 | cladhaire | What I want is a horizontal overlay, with just a rectangular (wide) oval, with some subtle white around the border of the oval, everything else transparent |
| 01:36.03 | norgs | at the start of the function you put in a "local debugTimeout = GetTime()+5" then at intervals, you do "if (GetTime()>debugTimeout) then return else DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("My debug text") end" |
| 01:36.04 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 01:36.05 | cladhaire | same basic concept as this: http://imagelink.org/info/4848 |
| 01:36.05 | cladhaire | just rounded edges, and a slight ... white sparkly border |
| 01:36.05 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:36.06 | Astryl | norgs, I already have that in there, just without the debug message, which wouldn't matter in the case of a freeze, would it? |
| 01:36.06 | Cairenn | hi josh |
| 01:36.06 | Astryl | if GetTime()-3>time then return end; |
| 01:36.06 | norgs | well, as long as that's where the freeze is happening |
| 01:36.07 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: what's that? :-) |
| 01:36.07 | Astryl | That's the only loop. |
| 01:36.07 | norgs | that's why i'm saying to put debugs elsewhere |
| 01:36.07 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: Whats what? |
| 01:36.07 | norgs | so you can see where it gets up to. |
| 01:36.07 | JoshBorke | oh, i see now, questtitlehighlight |
| 01:36.41 | norgs | because obviosly it's not the loop |
| 01:36.42 | norgs | s/obviosly/obviously/ |
| 01:36.42 | Kirkburn1 | purl? |
| 01:36.42 | norgs | hullo? |
| 01:36.42 | Kirkburn1 | ~prod purl |
| 01:36.44 | purl | ACTION zaps purl with a high voltage cattle prod |
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| 01:36.44 | purI | Go away |
| 01:36.45 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:36.45 | cladhaire | ~botsnack |
| 01:36.45 | purl | cladhaire: aw, gee |
| 01:36.45 | JoshBorke | s/Go away/5$ love you long time/ |
| 01:36.45 | purI | mm... babies |
| 01:36.46 | norgs | Astryl: It just doesn't make sense that that function will lock up |
| 01:36.47 | norgs | I keep staring at it, and it just doesn't make sense |
| 01:36.47 | JoshBorke | what's the function? |
| 01:36.47 | norgs | try disabling all your other addons |
| 01:36.47 | Astryl | I know... |
| 01:36.47 | norgs | http://pastebin.com/774465 |
| 01:36.48 | norgs | i bet one of them has overridden one of those targetting functions and is locking up. |
| 01:36.48 | Astryl | Hmmm... |
| 01:36.48 | Astryl | That's a posabillity. |
| 01:36.48 | Astryl | But I don't think I have any targeting related addons... |
| 01:36.48 | norgs | also TargetByName has a second parameter that sets whether you want to match exactly (i believe) |
| 01:36.48 | Astryl | Ah, good point. |
| 01:36.50 | JoshBorke | hm, why did the syntax highlight the word time? |
| 01:36.50 | norgs | cause time() is a function |
| 01:36.50 | Astryl | Ohh, does that screw it up somehow? |
| 01:36.50 | Astryl | Since I declared it local, prolly not, right? |
| 01:36.50 | Kirkburn1 | Tokusei, you around? If so, had any other problems, or is all okay? |
| 01:36.50 | norgs | nah - shouldn't cause you've set it local |
| 01:36.51 | cladhaire | Oh, does anyone have a bandage functino that uses item id's. |
| 01:36.51 | norgs | you may want to change it's name anyhow |
| 01:36.51 | cladhaire | so i dont have to write one? |
| 01:36.51 | norgs | usually it's bad form to get into the habit of using reserved names as variable names (local or not) |
| 01:36.52 | JoshBorke | lol cladhaire, gonna add a bandage function? |
| 01:36.52 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: I promised I would. |
| 01:36.52 | JoshBorke | steal code from AutoBar? |
| 01:36.52 | cladhaire | autobar won't use item ids |
| 01:36.52 | Astryl | Yah, I just added that time thing to try to deal with the freezing - it should work without it anyway. |
| 01:36.52 | JoshBorke | good point |
| 01:36.53 | Astryl | The limit thing should as well keep it from freezing. |
| 01:36.53 | JoshBorke | do you get any output? |
| 01:37.33 | JoshBorke | put debug statements inside the while loop |
| 01:37.37 | Astryl | Oh hey, when it does freeze, can I write to a log or something? |
| 01:37.37 | norgs | nope |
| 01:37.39 | Astryl | Just adding lines to the chat frame for debugging is useless because when it freezes, I can't see the lines added. |
| 01:37.40 | norgs | does anyone know if "print()" prints to the console? |
| 01:37.40 | JoshBorke | Astryl: set the limit to 2, add the debug in multiple places |
| 01:37.42 | Astryl | Like where? And how will that help when it freezes? |
| 01:37.42 | JoshBorke | well, if you limit the while loop down to fewer iterations, you'll know if it is a function inside the while loop |
| 01:37.46 | Astryl | But I've already got a limit on the loop that doesn't work. |
| 01:37.47 | Astryl | 2 or 40 makes no difference - it freezes. |
| 01:37.47 | Kirkburn1 | Woo, I've almost hit 170,000 downloads :) |
| 01:37.48 | Astryl | (I appreciate the help, not trying to sound unappreciative) |
| 01:37.54 | JoshBorke | well, the only other thing i'd try is to eliminate things until it works :-/ |
| 01:37.58 | norgs | put in a return just before the while loop |
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| 01:38.00 | norgs | i want to see if it's actually locking up before the loop |
| 01:38.00 | norgs | use: "if true then return end |
| 01:38.01 | Astryl | Well it's not consistant. I don't have a reliable way to make it crash. |
| 01:38.01 | norgs | otherwise lua will complain about code after the return |
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| 01:38.48 | Corrodias | woo hoo. i love that feeling i get when i really accomplish something when trying to set up a network! |
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| 01:40.16 | Astryl | Let me play with it some more and see if I can get a consistant repro. |
| 01:40.17 | Corrodias | out elementary school has computers in all the rooms, a windows 2k3 server computer running as the main router and domain controller, and several routers and switches throughout the room, along with some of the computers being really old and/or having no operating system, plus one network printer whose manual completely omits mention of the network abilities... |
| 01:40.17 | Corrodias | i love every moment of working on something like that |
| 01:40.18 | Astryl | Nice... |
| 01:40.19 | Kirkburn1 | Oooh, according to my website stats, IE is catching up with Firefox again :O |
| 01:40.19 | Corrodias | get this: the printer even lets you telnet and FTP in. but it requires login credentials, and specifically does -not- tell you what they are. :/ |
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| 01:40.24 | Astryl | I loved the feeling I got yesterday when I figured out that the song quietly playing in the background of a public service announcement on my favorite radio station is a remix of the music for the BubbleMan stage in MegaMan 2 for NES. |
| 01:40.24 | Corrodias | sweet |
| 01:40.24 | Astryl | Felt especially geeky :) |
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| 01:40.25 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 01:40.26 | Corrodias | purl likes you |
| 01:40.29 | purl | ACTION runs and gives you a big bear-hug. |
| 01:40.29 | norgs | kirkburn: how does mine compare with yours: http://norganna.org/usagestats/usage_200608.html |
| 01:40.29 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:40.29 | Kirkburn1 | looool, purl is running about an hour behind |
| 01:40.29 | Kirkburn1 | Or not, I have no idea |
| 01:40.29 | Kirkburn1 | Um, wait |
| 01:40.31 | Corrodias | norgs: 3000 unique user agents? holy crap. |
| 01:40.32 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: while you're here.. ;-) with oneBag, has anyone mentioned how it grey's out weird with CT_MailMod? |
| 01:40.32 | Legorol | great news! Dartol's Rod of Transformation can still be used infinite number of times, |
| 01:40.32 | Legorol | even though i acquired it post-patch |
| 01:40.32 | Corrodias | they failed to fix it? lolz |
| 01:41.16 | Corrodias | what the hell is an error Code 409 - Conflict |
| 01:41.17 | Kirkburn1 | 1hr 30mins behind, purl is |
| 01:41.19 | norgs | Corrodias: yah, i guess |
| 01:41.21 | Kaelten | Legorol: ya, and I can't figure out why |
| 01:41.24 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.24 | norgs | and I have no idea what a 409 is :P |
| 01:41.24 | Astryl | omg... |
| 01:41.24 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: ko, as long as you know :-D |
| 01:41.24 | Kaelten | Next time I see Cide I'm going to ask him if he has nay idea about it |
| 01:41.24 | Astryl | omg. |
| 01:41.24 | Astryl | Sorry for bothering everyone with the freezing function problem. |
| 01:41.25 | Astryl | I'm an idiot. |
| 01:41.27 | norgs | what was it? |
| 01:41.27 | JoshBorke | obviously we all are if we didn't find it :-D |
| 01:41.31 | Kirkburn1 | hehe |
| 01:41.33 | Kirkburn1 | Stupid purl |
| 01:41.34 | Astryl | Calling an old version of the function, duplicate. |
| 01:41.36 | JoshBorke | ah, that's do it |
| 01:41.37 | norgs | that'll do it |
| 01:41.39 | Kirkburn1 | purl is now just under an hour behind |
| 01:42.18 | Cairenn | silly purl |
| 01:47.52 | Astryl | Dude. I love joining an AB game when the horde has 4 flags at 1980 resources. |
| 01:47.52 | Kirkburn1 | ~prod testy testy testy test |
| 01:48.02 | purl | ACTION zaps testy testy testy test with a high voltage cattle prod |
| 01:48.02 | Astryl | Who the hell leaves a game at that point for me to get in? |
| 01:48.02 | Kirkburn1 | You're horde? |
| 01:48.02 | Astryl | yes |
| 01:52.25 | Kirkburn1 | heh |
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| 01:52.25 | Astryl | Heh, yeah, should have clarified that. |
| 01:52.25 | Kirkburn1 | I see purl is coming out from the hangover :P |
| 01:52.25 | Kirkburn1 | Must have had a big night last night ;) |
| 01:52.26 | Corrodias | HORDE IS RULE |
| 01:52.26 | Corrodias | ^5 Asni |
| 01:52.26 | Corrodias | or Astryl, god damn tab key |
| 01:52.26 | Kirkburn1 | Hored iz fer nubs |
| 01:52.28 | Corrodias | hord is hueg, tauren is hueg like xbox |
| 01:52.31 | Flyoc | taren lol |
| 01:52.32 | Flyoc | TANKA TANK TANKA |
| 01:52.33 | Astryl | ... |
| 01:52.35 | Kirkburn1 | tseric made funny! lololol http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/9632330.htm |
| 01:52.37 | Astryl | I'm a shaman too, if that helps :) |
| 01:52.40 | Kirkburn1 | lolz shammies rool |
| 01:52.58 | Astryl | I like my '4000 dmg in half a sec' macro :) |
| 01:54.00 | Astryl | Well, more like 1 sec, I guess. |
| 01:54.01 | Kirkburn1 | no fair |
| 01:54.14 | JoshBorke | Kirkburn1 meant: 'lolz shammies drool' |
| 01:54.24 | Astryl | Yeah, I know, it's not fair... I have to be within 20 yards for that. Only get 3000 if I'm between 20 and 36 yards. |
| 01:54.43 | Legorol | aaaah they changed the Alliance Brigadier General's quests' names |
| 01:54.55 | Legorol | the WSG one used to be called Natural Defenses |
| 01:55.01 | Legorol | now it's called Fight for Warsong Gulch |
| 01:55.02 | Kirkburn1 | Wow, this is a really good chain reaction video. Remember the car advert? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU5IdWJkF-I&NR |
| 01:55.02 | Legorol | boooooring |
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| 01:56.21 | Legorol | Kirkburn1: whoah! |
| 01:56.29 | Legorol | the funniest part is i can make out the lyrics :) |
| 01:56.33 | Legorol | it's hilarious |
| 01:56.38 | Kirkburn1 | Really? Cool |
| 01:57.02 | Kirkburn1 | What's being said? |
| 01:57.08 | Legorol | it's commenting what's happening |
| 01:57.19 | Kirkburn1 | Ah, yeah, I get it |
| 01:57.25 | Legorol | along the lines of .. "little ball bearing rolls down the tunnel, hits the car with the cup, " |
| 01:57.26 | Legorol | and so on |
| 01:57.33 | Legorol | "car with the arrow rolls down the slope" |
| 02:05.21 | Astryl | Anyone know of an addon that will show you the tooltip of the target of the person you're mousing over, below the tooltip of the person you're mousing over? |
| 02:05.35 | Astryl | ie, two tooltips, one for mouseover, one for mouseovertarget? |
| 02:10.11 | Astryl | Holy shit. |
| 02:10.14 | Astryl | Never seen that. |
| 02:10.23 | Astryl | PuG v organized group in AB. |
| 02:10.32 | Astryl | We're the pug. We just 5capped em. |
| 02:11.03 | Thrae | "Well the group is actually 2 people...but boy are they organized!" |
| 02:11.12 | Astryl | Heh, nope, 14. |
| 02:11.18 | Astryl | All from Bronzebeard. |
| 02:11.51 | norgs | Astryl - I use Nurfed, and it lists the target of target in the tooltip |
| 02:12.25 | Thrae | Nurfed uses TinyTip now? Cool. |
| 02:12.47 | Astryl | "lists"? Name+Class+Health is what I'd want. |
| 02:13.03 | norgs | it doesn't do that |
| 02:13.06 | norgs | just the name |
| 02:13.20 | Astryl | Doh, k. Does TinyTip? |
| 02:13.35 | Thrae | TinyTip only colors the Target of Target by class |
| 02:13.50 | Astryl | Oh. |
| 02:14.04 | Thrae | ToT health is something I'm thinking about adding. |
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| 02:17.50 | Kirov | Anyone else had issues where it appears that mob emotes aren't being seen by mods? |
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| 02:33.44 | gutano | having bad luck moving the MainMenuBarPerformanceBarFrame via a mod.... I do a :ClearAllPoints() and :SetPoint(..some stuff..)... it works from in game /script <same cmds> I'm trying to assign it's left side to the right side of ChatFrame1.. do some frames load extremely late? any idea's why this might be? |
| 02:34.45 | gutano | I have gone as far as registering the "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD" event, and put the commands in OnEvent.. but still no luck |
| 02:43.37 | Astryl | At my current rate of AB rep gain, it will take 2 days straight playing to get exalted. |
| 02:46.56 | gutano | maybe a few direct questions on my changes.... |
| 02:47.09 | gutano | how do I run a function.... about as late as I can on AddOn load? |
| 02:48.25 | Astryl | No clue. |
| 02:49.08 | Astryl | Just people gone at the moment. |
| 02:49.13 | gutano | hehe |
| 02:52.16 | ckknight | gutano, um, I know how to with Ace2 |
| 02:52.47 | ckknight | AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):RegisterEvent("AceEvent_FullyInitialized", function() ... end) |
| 02:53.00 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 02:53.17 | gutano | ckknight: =/ the idea behind repositioning the existing lag bar was to refrain from making a new one.... kinda minimalistic approach... adding ace kinda defeats my purpose |
| 02:53.34 | gutano | but thanks, maybe I'll check how Ace does it |
| 02:53.37 | ckknight | Ace2 is embedded :-P |
| 02:53.43 | gutano | ! |
| 02:53.52 | ckknight | !? |
| 02:54.04 | gutano | embedded as in, built into the game? |
| 02:54.12 | Astryl | What exactly does 'embedded' mean for addons? |
| 02:54.20 | ckknight | no, embedded as in you can put it inside your addon |
| 02:54.47 | ckknight | it doesn't need a dependency, since it's all just there |
| 02:54.54 | gutano | umm... |
| 02:55.07 | gutano | it's still there, it's just added to your mod instead of loaded seperately |
| 02:55.16 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 02:55.27 | gutano | which probably makes it less efficient than being seperate |
| 02:55.35 | ckknight | no. |
| 02:55.41 | ckknight | it doesn't |
| 02:55.47 | gutano | O.o is it not loaded 1 instance for each mod that uses it? |
| 02:55.58 | gutano | ie, each mod it is embeded in? |
| 02:55.59 | ckknight | only 1 instance is loaded for the whole game |
| 02:56.08 | ckknight | the latest version |
| 02:56.21 | ckknight | you won't ever have two AceEvents |
| 02:56.30 | gutano | <-- not very familiar with ace other than throwing it in to make a mod work before i started modding |
| 02:56.32 | ckknight | you'll have one, which is shared by everyone |
| 02:56.47 | ckknight | it's a nice framework |
| 02:57.46 | gutano | all I'm trying to do is reparent, and SetPoint() a frame... a framework seems a little overkill... but I will check it out to see how Ace accomplishes late events (assuming that is a solution to my problem) |
| 02:58.17 | ckknight | check out AceEvent-2.0.lua |
| 02:58.22 | ckknight | it's a ...bit complicated |
| 02:58.27 | gutano | hehe |
| 02:58.40 | gutano | I'm sure it's a _bit_ larger than what I'm writing |
| 02:58.42 | ckknight | but I wrote that part |
| 02:59.23 | ckknight | well, keep in mind that it might actually be more efficient to use a well-written framework than trying to hack something together yourself |
| 03:01.12 | gutano | O.o I don't doubt your skills, I'm sure they're far beyond mine... but it's really hard to justify any more than a 3 cmd mod for what I'm trying to do |
| 03:01.51 | gutano | I think I found my problem too..... MainMenuBar_UpdateKeyRing() resets my needed frame |
| 03:02.00 | ckknight | ah, so just hook that |
| 03:03.18 | gutano | it checks if (SHOW_KEYRING == 1).... maybe I can just set to 0, and register for save |
| 03:03.31 | gutano | would sure be nice |
| 03:04.15 | gutano | hrrm.. no registerforsave anymore... |
| 03:04.44 | gutano | yay.... /script SHOW_KEYRING=0 ftw |
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| 03:12.36 | Demension_X | Hey there guys |
| 03:13.10 | ckknight | hey guy |
| 03:13.14 | Demension_X | Im new to the addon creation thing |
| 03:13.28 | Demension_X | ive had a mod planned out with a friend of mine |
| 03:13.37 | Demension_X | we have layouts of what we want |
| 03:13.44 | Demension_X | and the features |
| 03:13.47 | Demension_X | im trying to learn |
| 03:13.51 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:13.54 | Demension_X | but the lua thing is REALY hard |
| 03:14.02 | ckknight | in my highly biased opinion, I recommend using a framework |
| 03:14.10 | gutano | lawl |
| 03:14.16 | Demension_X | what do you mean |
| 03:14.18 | gutano | I agree with ckknight |
| 03:14.20 | ckknight | it makes things a lot easier |
| 03:14.31 | ckknight | Ace2 is my favorite framework to work with |
| 03:14.36 | Demension_X | kk |
| 03:14.38 | ckknight | but there are others |
| 03:14.41 | ckknight | such as Cosmos |
| 03:14.44 | Demension_X | yea |
| 03:14.46 | gutano | ick |
| 03:14.49 | Demension_X | libraries |
| 03:15.00 | Astryl | Hey, there are Cosmos devs here. |
| 03:15.01 | ckknight | lol. |
| 03:15.04 | Astryl | Look, you just made one of us leave! |
| 03:15.10 | Demension_X | ive read all about libraries |
| 03:15.13 | ckknight | hope it wasn't an emolog |
| 03:15.18 | ckknight | at least I mentioned you guys ;-) |
| 03:15.34 | Demension_X | and i wanna learn how to code off of them and eventually get my own |
| 03:15.43 | ckknight | get your own what? |
| 03:15.53 | Demension_X | is there a way i can base it off of CT or Titan or something |
| 03:15.59 | ckknight | ew, Titan |
| 03:16.08 | Demension_X | i use titan cause it is helpful |
| 03:16.16 | Demension_X | lets me know stuff when i need it |
| 03:16.17 | ckknight | I keep cleaning myself but I'm still dirty. |
| 03:16.24 | Astryl | <-- Cosmos dev |
| 03:16.28 | Demension_X | cool |
| 03:16.29 | ckknight | <-- Ace2 and FuBar dev |
| 03:16.35 | Demension_X | kk |
| 03:16.40 | Demension_X | this was one of our features |
| 03:16.44 | ckknight | come, come to the dark side. |
| 03:16.57 | gutano | Astryl: sorry I'm anti-cosmos from years ago... when someone tried to tell me I needed to install a wow mod with an exe |
| 03:17.02 | Demension_X | we wanted to have A winamp/itunes/foobar/wmp controller for the ingame |
| 03:17.23 | gutano | =/ blizzard is kinda against stuff like that, so they made it pretty hard |
| 03:17.25 | Astryl | Well, 'Cosmos Dev' is an exageration I guess... I'm not on any of the core stuff, I just write one addon that's been added to Cosmos, but is available separately too. |
| 03:17.27 | ckknight | can't, Demension_X |
| 03:17.36 | Tain | You can if you buy a Mac! |
| 03:17.37 | ckknight | Astryl, which? |
| 03:17.41 | Tain | For iTunes at least. |
| 03:17.42 | ckknight | true, Tain |
| 03:17.43 | Astryl | FeralSkills |
| 03:17.45 | gutano | yeah, it's built in, hehe |
| 03:17.59 | Astryl | Actually, even with Mac/iTunes, it's only keybindings, isn't it? |
| 03:18.05 | ckknight | right. |
| 03:18.11 | Demension_X | can i make a controller that controls an interpetur and that tells winamp |
| 03:18.12 | Astryl | Addons can't access the methods that control itunes |
| 03:18.18 | ckknight | Demension_X, no inter-process communication for WoW |
| 03:18.28 | Demension_X | kk |
| 03:18.35 | ckknight | Demension_X, I recommend getting a multimedia keyboard :-P |
| 03:18.39 | Demension_X | cause i know |
| 03:18.44 | Demension_X | i was thinking |
| 03:18.46 | gutano | Demension_X: the thing is... to block hacks/bots/etc... blizzard has intentionaly tried to block outbound/inbound communication of wow to anything |
| 03:18.52 | Demension_X | Winamp uses Global Hotkeys |
| 03:18.55 | Gryphen | You have never had to install Cosmos with an exe |
| 03:19.01 | Gryphen | there have always been zips available |
| 03:19.04 | gutano | doesn't mean you can't pull it off |
| 03:19.10 | ckknight | but the primary way is with the exe. |
| 03:19.17 | Demension_X | if i made the addon with a controller that used the Ghotkeys to the advantage it would work no? |
| 03:19.53 | Demension_X | cause |
| 03:19.56 | Demension_X | another thing is |
| 03:20.02 | ckknight | you could. |
| 03:20.03 | gutano | Gryphen: it really doesn't matter... the mod always came with more than I wanted... or I found mixing and matching to work better for my needs... the fact that everyone has heard of cosmos is acclaim enough to it's users |
| 03:20.12 | Demension_X | i want to make a flight path identifier |
| 03:20.20 | ckknight | alright |
| 03:20.31 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 03:20.33 | Astryl | I may be a Cosmos dev, but even I only use like 10 things from cosmos |
| 03:20.56 | Gryphen | well i dont care what you like, im just responding to the fact that whoever told you that was wrong |
| 03:20.59 | Demension_X | If you are close to a new flight path grif master with the Green thing it would have a popup on ur screen saying there is a new one near you |
| 03:21.09 | ckknight | oh |
| 03:21.13 | ckknight | can't really do that. |
| 03:21.14 | Astryl | Can't do that, Dem. |
| 03:21.17 | Demension_X | why not |
| 03:21.22 | ckknight | because you're a botter |
| 03:21.25 | Demension_X | no |
| 03:21.33 | Demension_X | these are just ideas |
| 03:21.37 | ckknight | Bliz may think so |
| 03:21.41 | ckknight | that's why you can't |
| 03:21.42 | Demension_X | i dont know |
| 03:21.48 | Demension_X | well |
| 03:21.56 | Astryl | No way to tell that an NPC has available FPs. |
| 03:21.58 | Demension_X | i would like to have a quest helper as well |
| 03:22.13 | ckknight | also no |
| 03:22.16 | Astryl | "helper" |
| 03:22.17 | Astryl | ? |
| 03:22.19 | Demension_X | not helper |
| 03:22.21 | Demension_X | like guide |
| 03:22.21 | ckknight | if you want to identify questgivers |
| 03:22.26 | ckknight | um |
| 03:22.28 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 03:22.41 | Demension_X | you know how they use the thottbot database for a addon |
| 03:22.43 | Demension_X | like that |
| 03:22.51 | Astryl | ... |
| 03:23.09 | Demension_X | well |
| 03:23.16 | Demension_X | give you info on the quest |
| 03:23.17 | gutano | Gryphen: no one told me... I went to get it once, and I don't recall seeing anything but a exe... perhaps something else was available... but in this day and age of windows security holes, and the nature of wow mods.... offering an exe gave me a negative vibe |
| 03:23.21 | ckknight | um, not really... |
| 03:23.33 | clad|secrets | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.42 | Cairenn | night clad |
| 03:23.55 | Demension_X | yea |
| 03:23.57 | Demension_X | but |
| 03:24.02 | Astryl | Nice. More? |
| 03:24.05 | Demension_X | i wanna join a team of scripters |
| 03:24.06 | Demension_X | like |
| 03:24.07 | Nightdew | anyone ever play a 3.0 pnp MotW Shifter? |
| 03:24.09 | Demension_X | to learn |
| 03:24.32 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 03:24.35 | Demension_X | l8r |
| 03:24.39 | Nightdew | clad|sleep: night |
| 03:24.51 | Demension_X | yea |
| 03:24.59 | Demension_X | also |
| 03:25.05 | Demension_X | maybe an ingame music player |
| 03:25.18 | Cairenn | sentences Demension_X, heard of them? complete coherent thoughts |
| 03:25.28 | Demension_X | kk |
| 03:25.29 | Demension_X | lol |
| 03:25.29 | Demension_X | well |
| 03:25.33 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.39 | Demension_X | im kinda spacy on the subject matter |
| 03:25.46 | Cairenn | we've noticed :p |
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| 03:26.34 | Demension_X | well |
| 03:26.43 | Demension_X | you say that you cant access outside anything |
| 03:27.04 | Demension_X | yet i look at some of these addons and they generate things and control things all the time |
| 03:28.08 | ckknight | no IPC |
| 03:28.21 | ckknight | but controlling UI elements is fine |
| 03:28.59 | Astryl | Night, what about druids? |
| 03:29.10 | Demension_X | kk |
| 03:29.14 | Demension_X | how about this |
| 03:29.17 | Astryl | 3.0 pnp MotW Shifter? |
| 03:30.53 | Demension_X | maybe i could do a ui that had a mp3 player a ventrilo/teamspeak displayer |
| 03:31.10 | Demension_X | would the vent/ts work |
| 03:31.12 | Demension_X | or no |
| 03:31.33 | ckknight | that'd be a 3rd party program |
| 03:31.36 | ckknight | not an addon |
| 03:31.51 | Astryl | I have a 11/33/7 druid, was 12/34/5 for a while. |
| 03:34.05 | Astryl | How about this, Nightdew? |
| 03:34.12 | Nightdew | Astryl: you see my pms? |
| 03:34.18 | Astryl | Yeah, you don't see mine? |
| 03:35.21 | Cairenn | did you forget to /msg nickserv identify <pw>? |
| 03:36.27 | Astryl | I'm not registered :/ |
| 03:36.37 | Cairenn | well that would be why then :p |
| 03:36.44 | Demension_X | is ther someon here willling to teach me how to do some of this |
| 03:36.46 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.50 | Cairenn | takes 2 seconds |
| 03:37.06 | Astryl | OK, think I'm good now |
| 03:37.23 | ckknight | Demension_X, you are in high level topics dealing with manual Direct3D overlays |
| 03:37.52 | ckknight | which by its very nature, Blizzard may not take kindly to |
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| 03:41.26 | gutano | anyone know how some mods lock buttons in place (don't allow other mods/blizzard stuff to move/resize/hide).... just tons and tons of hooks? |
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| 03:42.48 | Demension_X | kk |
| 03:42.50 | Demension_X | sry |
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| 03:43.06 | ckknight | gutano, right, just hook the stuff that moves it. |
| 03:46.35 | Shadowed | Does applying poisons/temp weapon buffs require a hardware event? |
| 03:48.39 | Gngsk | believe it does |
| 03:48.51 | Shadowed | yeah, though it does too but not sure |
| 03:52.16 | Gngsk | could test by scheduling UseInventoryItem and PickupInventoryItem() ? |
| 03:54.46 | Warla | Woha |
| 03:54.47 | Warla | so hot |
| 03:54.51 | Warla | just got phat lewtz |
| 03:55.12 | Warla | [Garb of Royal Ascension] |
| 03:55.22 | Gngsk | grats |
| 03:55.27 | Gngsk | great for vek'lor tanking |
| 03:55.32 | Warla | ya |
| 03:55.40 | Warla | went degfault to me because of that |
| 03:55.49 | Warla | i have nearly perfect twin emps gear now |
| 03:55.56 | Warla | only part missing is the SR ring off trio |
| 03:56.37 | Gngsk | we've gotten one of those, but haven't seen a garb yet |
| 03:58.14 | Warla | garb is seldom as shit |
| 03:58.18 | Warla | i'm so happy |
| 03:58.30 | Cairenn | unh |
| 03:58.41 | Cairenn | fecal matter isn't seldom ;) |
| 03:58.48 | Warla | heh |
| 03:58.53 | Cairenn | unless you have severe constipation |
| 03:59.02 | Tain | Bran muffins are good for you! |
| 03:59.15 | Warla | well how often have you seen your wow toon take a shitbreak? ya see? |
| 03:59.17 | Warla | seldom |
| 03:59.23 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:59.39 | Cairenn | every time the server lags :p |
| 03:59.48 | Warla | dont tell me about lag |
| 03:59.51 | Warla | fankriss |
| 03:59.54 | Warla | 14% |
| 03:59.56 | Warla | all alife |
| 03:59.59 | Warla | then 20 sec lag |
| 04:00.00 | Warla | and all dead |
| 04:00.06 | Warla | we're pretty pissed now |
| 04:00.24 | Warla | we're on the worst fag server ever |
| 04:00.26 | Warla | dragonmaw |
| 04:00.33 | Warla | that crap has more downtime than uptime |
| 04:00.59 | Warla | blizzard must have made a fortune off our server |
| 04:01.09 | Warla | half the population took payed realm transfers |
| 04:01.34 | norgs | so half left, and it's still shit? |
| 04:03.11 | Warla | ya |
| 04:03.13 | Warla | its so bad |
| 04:03.26 | Warla | patch didnt do our server much good either |
| 04:03.29 | Warla | crashes all couple hours |
| 04:03.46 | Warla | wasnt able to do 1 BG to the end |
| 04:07.52 | Tem | .... wow |
| 04:08.03 | Tem | new AV is retarded |
| 04:08.12 | norgs | it is? |
| 04:08.27 | Tem | 9 minutes |
| 04:08.29 | Tem | start to finish |
| 04:08.33 | Tem | I got 3 kills |
| 04:08.37 | Tem | I was top killer |
| 04:08.54 | norgs | heheh - sometimes they can be like that |
| 04:08.59 | Tem | I hate that |
| 04:09.04 | Tem | complete garbage |
| 04:09.06 | norgs | but that's because the teams are unbalanced |
| 04:09.12 | Tem | 40 v 40 |
| 04:09.20 | Tem | both teams ignored each other |
| 04:09.27 | Tem | it was a race to the generals |
| 04:09.44 | norgs | yup |
| 04:09.48 | norgs | that's new AV |
| 04:09.56 | norgs | "ignore the middle bit" |
| 04:10.47 | norgs | you can actually pick up a bit of honor by running around with a 2/3 man team and capping middle gy's |
| 04:11.34 | kergoth | this is my second 60,and i've never played av, not once |
| 04:11.37 | kergoth | guess i should try it sometime |
| 04:11.54 | norgs | it's different to the pve side of things |
| 04:12.51 | kergoth | i've done wsg and ab, long long ago, just never av. i need to though, my rogue wants a lobatomizer :) |
| 04:12.55 | norgs | i found it actually takes quite a while to get good at killing humans (being that i never really duelled other players like some people do) |
| 04:13.06 | kergoth | meh, dueling is a waste of time imho |
| 04:13.46 | norgs | thing is that human i != machine ai |
| 04:14.42 | norgs | there's no threat management, and if you piss them off enough, they'll chase you for miles :) |
| 04:14.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:23.31 | Corrodias | also: they don't just sit in front of you and let you hit them while plain attacking and occasionally using a special |
| 04:24.14 | Gngsk | what class do you play Corrodias? |
| 04:39.52 | ckknight | http://www.50dkpminus.com/vader-loituma.swf |
| 04:58.14 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 04:58.27 | MentalPower|ZZzz | night Cair |
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| 05:07.23 | Thrae | I need a good Battlegrounds companion addon. |
| 05:07.59 | ckknight | BattlegroundFu? |
| 05:08.14 | ckknight | whatever happened to chip anyway? |
| 05:08.18 | ckknight | wait, he's here |
| 05:08.30 | ckknight | just hasn't spoken for a while |
| 05:08.35 | ckknight | ~seen hyperChipmunk |
| 05:08.51 | purl | hyperchipmunk is currently on #wowi-lounge (12h 3m 40s) #hosernet (12h 3m 40s) #wowace (12h 3m 40s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 1h 47m 23s, last said: 'dr00dpets ftw'. |
| 05:09.10 | dukeku | ~seen ckknight |
| 05:09.15 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 273 messages. Is idling for 40s, last said: '~seen hyperChipmunk'. |
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| 05:09.17 | ckknight | I'm right here |
| 05:09.21 | dukeku | no you're not |
| 05:09.54 | Thrae | Yeah, I was hoping for something a little more then just BattlgroundFu, which I have been using up until now. What AlphaMap includes seems nice, but I have now found AlphaMap to be buggy and resource intensive. |
| 05:10.16 | Thrae | I'll do some searching through the UI sites later. |
| 05:20.24 | Hexarobi | whats the settexcoord to spin a texture 180, or flip horizontal |
| 05:21.33 | Kirov | 0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1 flip vertically! |
| 05:21.43 | gutano | Hex, I think you just start from wrong side of image |
| 05:21.56 | gutano | ie, your x start is higher than your x stop |
| 05:21.59 | ckknight | Dolby-wowi, ping? |
| 05:23.20 | Dolby-wowi | owww *rubs arm* |
| 05:23.31 | ckknight | didn't expect you to be awake |
| 05:23.45 | ckknight | I'm messing with the backend editfile_xml.php stuff |
| 05:23.47 | gutano | is it possible to :SetScript("OnUpdate", nil)? |
| 05:24.01 | ckknight | yes. |
| 05:24.11 | Dolby-wowi | cool |
| 05:24.18 | ckknight | I was wondering for do=listfiles if you could group the items |
| 05:24.20 | Kirov | 180 flip is 0,1,0,0,1,1,1,0 |
| 05:24.29 | gutano | ok, not workin for me, just wanted to make sure it was possible before I chased for too long, thanks =D |
| 05:24.53 | ckknight | so that instead of <id>4899</id> <title>TabletLib</title> <version>1.0.2538</version> <size>33308</size> followed by another thingy, it's wrapped in an <item></item> dealy |
| 05:25.31 | Dolby-wowi | so you just want <item></item> wrapped around each one? |
| 05:25.34 | ckknight | right. |
| 05:26.20 | ckknight | sorry it's took so long to get on this, I've been really busy |
| 05:26.41 | Dolby-wowi | ok done |
| 05:26.56 | ckknight | perfect |
| 05:27.14 | Dolby-wowi | just needed it in the list of addons right? |
| 05:27.40 | ckknight | right |
| 05:27.44 | ckknight | don't need it for the other stuff |
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| 05:29.06 | ckknight | editfile won't actually do anything, right? |
| 05:29.15 | ckknight | least that's what you say... |
| 05:29.30 | Dolby-wowi | correct it wont write anything to the db or upload a file |
| 05:29.54 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:30.27 | Dolby-wowi | it should return the proper messages though |
| 05:30.37 | ckknight | right, it does |
| 05:30.40 | ckknight | seems good |
| 05:31.48 | ckknight | how hard would it be to allow it to change stuff? do you still have to code that or is that just disabled for now? |
| 05:32.34 | Dolby-wowi | some of the code is there but its been awhile so I'm gonna have to go threw it a little |
| 05:33.30 | Dolby-wowi | should only need some tweaks from what is already written for the regular edit page |
| 05:34.51 | ckknight | alright |
| 05:35.33 | ckknight | if you could do that sometime, that'd be great |
| 05:35.46 | ckknight | cause I'm finally ready/willing to do something with it |
| 05:35.47 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:35.50 | Dolby-wowi | I'll try to get that worked out in the next couple days |
| 05:36.22 | ckknight | great |
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| 06:25.09 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:25.26 | Cairenn | hey s|loup |
| 06:25.54 | s|loup | do you if us get a fix for the ubrs gate problem (after rend) |
| 06:26.32 | Cairenn | no idea, personally, someone else in channel may know though |
| 06:27.26 | s|loup | ok thanks |
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| 06:50.29 | Thrae | ~seen Beladona |
| 06:50.36 | purl | beladona <n=sluster@24.129.136.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 57m 9s ago, saying: 'its too bad you can't scan durability per slot'. |
| 06:59.54 | Shadowed | s|loup you can't, you have to kill rend first before gluthy |
| 06:59.58 | Shadowed | glut |
| 06:59.59 | Shadowed | gluty |
| 07:00.02 | Shadowed | fuck it |
| 07:00.05 | s|loup | :/ |
| 07:00.13 | Shadowed | glyth |
| 07:00.37 | s|loup | ok thanks for info |
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| 09:50.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 09:50.41 | Cairenn | oh |
| 09:50.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | 9 hks 2 deaths 7 killing blows |
| 09:50.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | rawr |
| 09:50.53 | Health | During? |
| 09:51.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | the second half of a wsg match i joined |
| 09:51.16 | Health | That's pretty sucky! |
| 09:51.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | was at the top of the list of kbs and hks, :x |
| 09:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was a short game |
| 09:51.41 | Health | :p |
| 09:51.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah the opposing side won but it was already almost 2-0 when i joined |
| 09:52.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | one cat can only do so much |
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| 11:01.26 | Maldivia | grr |
| 11:01.50 | Cairenn | oh baby |
| 11:02.48 | Maldivia | Cairenn: I'm writing Java at the moment, but I'm constantly writing local instead of the variable type :9 |
| 11:02.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 11:03.06 | Maldivia | a bit annoying |
| 11:03.15 | Cairenn | that's the "joy" of switching back and forth between languages |
| 11:03.19 | Cairenn | yeah, it would be |
| 11:04.07 | Maldivia | you're up late? |
| 11:04.15 | kergoth | Maldivia: i do that all the time. its worse if the languages have some similar syntax |
| 11:04.19 | Cairenn | at this point, I'm up early |
| 11:04.23 | kergoth | going back and forth between lua and python at timesi s a real pain in the ass |
| 11:04.25 | Cairenn | 7am |
| 11:04.32 | kergoth | ruby is worse yet |
| 11:04.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 11:05.32 | Maldivia | Cairenn, ahh east coast? |
| 11:05.39 | Cairenn | aye |
| 11:06.04 | kergoth | whee, nothing like 2 glibc compiles and 2 gcc compiles, with 2 of those using 2 threads each, all simultaniously, to really push a new box |
| 11:06.11 | Maldivia | guess I'm just to used to the people from the US I talk to are on the west coast |
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| 11:07.13 | Maldivia | kergoth: you could always set it to use more :9 |
| 11:07.26 | kergoth | this is nothing, my music isnt skipping yet :) |
| 11:08.33 | Maldivia | make -j 10... :9 |
| 11:11.08 | kergoth | or if you're really feeling balsy, make -j |
| 11:12.30 | Maldivia | yeah, but that's just plain mean |
| 11:12.57 | AnduinLothar | yay AV revered |
| 11:13.15 | Cairenn | grats AnduinLothar |
| 11:13.18 | AnduinLothar | and holy cow.. 500 HKs today |
| 11:15.05 | Maldivia | Anduin, remember, you get HK for all kills in AV now, with forced grouping :9 |
| 11:15.09 | Cairenn | that's a few ... |
| 11:15.38 | AnduinLothar | not all kills |
| 11:15.44 | AnduinLothar | only ones you assisted |
| 11:16.02 | AnduinLothar | or ones the people you healeed were getting |
| 11:16.45 | AnduinLothar | I've gotten >100 HK's in AV just by healing before :) |
| 11:17.30 | AnduinLothar | wait a sec.. when did the honor turn over for today? |
| 11:18.10 | AnduinLothar | cause it tallied.... but my hks for today is most than i would expect in just a few hours or less |
| 11:18.16 | AnduinLothar | more* |
| 11:19.08 | AnduinLothar | i got like 250 hks on tuesday... and now it says yesterday i got 350, and i have 450 today and 580 for the week.. |
| 11:19.22 | AnduinLothar | so confused |
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| 11:35.35 | BLG | How can you tell if a bag is a general purpose bag or a "special" bag with restrictive capabilities? |
| 11:43.26 | wereHamster | check item IDs |
| 11:46.21 | clad|work | Have a good day everyone. |
| 11:46.38 | Cairenn | you too clad|work |
| 11:51.01 | wereHamster | clad|work, does this look ok to you: http://wowi.pastey.net/379 ? |
| 11:51.20 | BLG | I don't follow |
| 11:54.06 | Cairenn | ? |
| 11:54.06 | zenzelezz | not 1.12 patch day anymore |
| 11:54.11 | Cairenn | :p |
| 11:54.57 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> "I started out with nothing. I have most of it left. | Paste Code: http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 11:55.35 | phyber | some of my fubar stuff disappeared with the new updates. |
| 11:55.45 | phyber | MiniClockFu and GCInFu that I've noticed :/ |
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| 12:03.51 | Maldivia | BLG: I think GetItemInfo returns something different for normal bags and non-normal bags |
| 12:05.12 | Maldivia | BLG: so get the item id for the bag (parse the link from GetInventoryItemLink) and either check the id vs known ids that are special, or run it through GetItemInfo, and parse the return values from that (not sure they differ though) |
| 12:07.28 | BLG | I will look into it with that information, thanks |
| 12:08.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 12:08.50 | Maldivia | BLG: Enchanting: 22246, 22248 and 22249 | Herb: 22250, 22251 and 22252 | Soul: 21340, 21341, 21342, 22243 and 22244 |
| 12:09.21 | Maldivia | those are the item ids for the known enchanting/herb/soul bags |
| 12:10.10 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:10.18 | Maldivia | morning Josh |
| 12:10.26 | wereHamster | morning |
| 12:11.03 | BLG | Maldivia: hardcore. But how did you find them? |
| 12:11.16 | wereHamster | PeriodicTable |
| 12:11.17 | Maldivia | BLG: looked in my item db :) |
| 12:11.49 | BLG | I also need the ones for ammo/quiver bags |
| 12:12.55 | Maldivia | hmm, ok |
| 12:12.57 | Maldivia | let me check: |
| 12:13.21 | wereHamster | http://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/view/trunk/PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua |
| 12:13.40 | wereHamster | look for 'bagsammo' |
| 12:13.47 | Maldivia | hehe, ok, nvm :9 |
| 12:14.10 | Maldivia | wereHamster: it's not up to date with soul bags, I can see |
| 12:15.00 | wereHamster | tekkub is the maintainer ;) |
| 12:15.26 | Maldivia | well, need to bonk him then, it seems :9 |
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| 12:33.05 | Cairenn | anyone planning on uploading any updated mods to wowi in the next couple minutes? |
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| 12:37.15 | clad | anyone in game and able to test something quick fo rme? |
| 12:38.03 | Cairenn | I *just* logged out to go try to get some sleep, but can log back in if you need ... |
| 12:38.30 | clad | nah, i'll find someone else. |
| 12:38.32 | clad | go get some sleep hun |
| 12:39.20 | clad | I just need someone to turn on AUtoSelfCast in the blizzard options, then try do a CastSpellByName() without a target (your choice of spell, healers are easiest obviously). THEN try to do a CastSpellByName("Flash Heal", false) and see if that overrides AutoSelfCast |
| 12:41.13 | Cairenn | okay, I'll take that as a "no" on the mods about to be uploaded, so I'm going to go try again to pass out for a few hours |
| 12:41.47 | clad | night Cair |
| 12:42.26 | Cairenn|sleep | hopefully some of the other admin/mods will be around the site to approve any that get uploaded in the next couple hours |
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| 12:44.20 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Beladona] by ChanServ |
| 12:45.35 | clad | morning Bela =) |
| 12:46.51 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|sleep -> "Adults are obsolete children." |
| 12:47.35 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|sleep -> "Adults are obsolete children." Dr Seuss | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 12:49.30 | clad | Everyone: PING =) |
| 12:49.57 | Gngsk | yo |
| 12:50.09 | Gngsk | you need someone to test that self cast stuff? |
| 12:51.10 | zenzelezz | hrm, dying in Stockade takes you all the way to Elwynn Forest graveyard o_O |
| 12:51.21 | Gngsk | it's not that far |
| 12:51.31 | zenzelezz | far enough |
| 12:51.39 | clad | Gngsk: Yeah, if you can |
| 12:51.43 | JoshBorke | wait until Uldaman :-( |
| 12:52.34 | clad | uldaman backdoor is a crappy run |
| 12:52.40 | clad | JoshBorke ZOMG TEST FOR ME> |
| 12:52.43 | Gngsk | clad, ok, but I don't see an option for 'AutoSelfCast' in the interface options |
| 12:53.38 | clad | Its on the basic, and its in the top right corner |
| 12:53.47 | clad | third from the top in the rightmost column imo. |
| 12:54.17 | Gngsk | k, lemme check again |
| 12:54.48 | Gngsk | got it |
| 12:54.53 | Gngsk | lemme relog and disable telo's |
| 12:55.24 | clad | k k =) |
| 12:55.27 | clad | appreciate the help |
| 12:55.33 | Gngsk | np |
| 12:55.37 | clad | it'll drive me nuts if i dont figure it out :P and this'll let Clique work with ASC |
| 12:55.45 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 12:55.53 | Maldivia | clad: well, the worst corpse run in the history of WoW was Westfall to Gates of Ahn'Qiraj :) |
| 12:56.15 | [Ammo] | Maldivia: spirit healer and farm some gold for repairs is faster methinks :) |
| 12:56.23 | Maldivia | [Ammo]: hehe, yeah :) |
| 12:56.28 | Beladona | doh, was afk |
| 12:56.30 | Beladona | hiya clad |
| 12:56.33 | Beladona | long time no see |
| 12:58.28 | Gngsk | clad, nope. doesn't seem to override ASC :\ |
| 12:59.20 | Gngsk | What I think you want is for the little grey hand cursor to come up, right? |
| 12:59.39 | Gngsk | instead it starts casting flash heal on myself |
| 12:59.55 | Gngsk | when I run /script CastSpellByName("Flash Heal", false) |
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| 13:02.13 | clad | Bah, that's what I was afraid of. |
| 13:02.22 | clad | The "auto-self-cast" is a little TOO automatic fo rme. |
| 13:02.32 | clad | cause it never exposes itself to lua =/ |
| 13:03.02 | Gngsk | no way to override it eh? |
| 13:03.16 | clad | nope, its a CVar. |
| 13:03.24 | [Ammo] | well you could |
| 13:03.30 | Gngsk | enable/disable? |
| 13:03.33 | [Ammo] | since you can store the cvar, flip it, and restore |
| 13:03.37 | [Ammo] | optionally |
| 13:03.51 | clad | aye |
| 13:03.54 | clad | that's really the only option i have |
| 13:04.03 | clad | and it seems somewhat excessive.. but really the only option. |
| 13:04.25 | [Ammo] | it could cause potential problems too |
| 13:04.38 | clad | how so? |
| 13:04.39 | [Ammo] | like the flipping of autoAFK causes problems :) |
| 13:04.49 | [Ammo] | I flipped that one manually a couple of times |
| 13:04.55 | [Ammo] | and now I can't get it right anymore |
| 13:05.12 | [Ammo] | so I never come out of AFK again automatically |
| 13:05.27 | clad | really? |
| 13:05.29 | clad | how's that work? |
| 13:05.29 | clad | O.o |
| 13:05.29 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:05.31 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 13:05.36 | [Ammo] | but I broke it on my char |
| 13:05.41 | [Ammo] | deleting WTF/WTB works |
| 13:06.03 | [Ammo] | I can flip it and it'll work normal for 1 session |
| 13:06.18 | [Ammo] | next session it's back |
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| 13:07.19 | clad | okj.. well that's sad |
| 13:07.24 | clad | i'll just tell people to turn it off =( |
| 13:07.32 | [Ammo] | you could run some tests with it |
| 13:07.41 | [Ammo] | I'd do it for you, but I broke my graphicsdrivers at work :) |
| 13:07.43 | [Ammo] | so no wow for me |
| 13:13.41 | clad | hrm.. ok.. gotta run |
| 13:13.43 | clad | thanks for the help |
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| 13:35.38 | TS|Skrom_ | morning |
| 13:35.50 | Kirkburn | ciao |
| 13:37.06 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 13:39.14 | Maldivia | morn |
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| 13:45.04 | BLG | Maldivia: in the end I found I don't need to rely on item IDs |
| 13:45.09 | BLG | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemType |
| 13:45.21 | BLG | Regular bags are always of type Container and subtype Bag |
| 13:45.53 | Maldivia | BLG: the problem is, it doesn't follow that pattern for other languages :| |
| 13:45.58 | Maldivia | unless they've fixedi t |
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| 13:46.06 | Maldivia | so localization will be a hell |
| 13:46.49 | BLG | lol, localization |
| 13:47.18 | Kirkburn | Ahoy, hoy ... the UnderDev page has been updated: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
| 13:47.51 | BLG | I thought it was an internal API name, but I realise that they are the same names as in the AH |
| 13:47.55 | BLG | Blizzard is so full of fail |
| 13:47.57 | Kirkburn | Methinks patch 1.13 is the BC preparation patch :) |
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| 13:48.41 | zenzelezz | 1.14 being BC? |
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| 13:49.24 | BLG | 1.3 is BC |
| 13:49.29 | BLG | or 1.13 |
| 13:49.32 | Maldivia | 2.0 is BC |
| 13:51.17 | Warla | ohh boy |
| 13:51.30 | Warla | ever tried duelling a priest when you wear 365 shadow resistance? |
| 13:51.38 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: well, following the patch cycle for blizzard with a patch on average every 2month, then 2 more patches, and we'll hit christmas, and release of expansion :) |
| 13:51.48 | Maldivia | Warla: smite smite smite dead? |
| 13:52.03 | Warla | heh nah smite is dumbest spell a priest could use vs a lock |
| 13:52.06 | Kirkburn | Ack, isn't it fun - I forgot about BC being 2.0 :P |
| 13:52.18 | Warla | smite = holy tree |
| 13:52.28 | Warla | just spellock that tree and hes fucked |
| 13:52.39 | Kirkburn | Well ... it could be that 1.13 is the patch which is for everyone, and 2.0 is only for the BC buyers? Hmm, who knows |
| 13:53.05 | Maldivia | Warla: well, 30sec cooldown on spell lock :) |
| 13:54.30 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: but I think there'll be a 1.13 patch, and then expansion after that |
| 13:54.58 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: not that I can think of, what they are missing before expansion |
| 13:54.59 | Maldivia | except time |
| 13:55.04 | Kirkburn | True |
| 13:55.11 | Kirkburn | There's nothing else that we know of that's planned |
| 13:58.54 | Maldivia | well, bug fixes... |
| 13:59.24 | Maldivia | hmm, and you think they can get BC finished for November 22nd? |
| 13:59.46 | Maldivia | 23rd even |
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| 14:07.15 | Maldivia | hmm, are the beta forums closed ? |
| 14:11.43 | Warla | Maldivia |
| 14:11.46 | Warla | 30 sec cooldown |
| 14:11.51 | Warla | but 8 sec holy tree blocked |
| 14:11.59 | Warla | no lock needs 8 sec to blast a priest away |
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| 14:27.57 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 14:30.28 | Kirkburn | Nov 23rd? |
| 14:31.11 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, I got distracted, didn't mean to ignore your comments :P |
| 14:31.22 | Maldivia | hehe, no problem |
| 14:31.25 | Maldivia | the release date of wow |
| 14:31.47 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: btw, what class do you normally play? |
| 14:31.52 | Kirkburn | Warlock |
| 14:32.00 | Maldivia | ok, just found this link http://mikkeltscherning.dk/wow/naz/roguelevel70.jpg |
| 14:32.08 | Maldivia | apparently BC rogue talents |
| 14:32.15 | Kirkburn | I just noticed that the beta forums have been updated |
| 14:32.47 | Kirkburn | You can't view them without logging in, it seems |
| 14:33.04 | Maldivia | yeah, and you can't log in |
| 14:33.24 | Kirkburn | They seem to have fixed a few issues with IE7 I notice :) |
| 14:33.44 | Maldivia | why would I use IE7, when I gave Firefox :9 |
| 14:33.56 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 14:34.06 | Maldivia | have* |
| 14:34.32 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: can you log on ? |
| 14:34.36 | Kirkburn | Nah |
| 14:34.53 | Kirkburn | It's likely disconnected from the auth. servers |
| 14:35.26 | Kirkburn | Btw, I wouldn't be surprised to be seeing lots of alpha screenshots now :) Tseric said we'd see some stuff around now :P |
| 14:35.31 | [KaoS]` | blah |
| 14:35.35 | [KaoS]` | microsoft.. |
| 14:36.03 | Kirkburn | Not a fan? ;) |
| 14:36.26 | [KaoS]` | ie7.. blah even more :P |
| 14:36.46 | [KaoS]` | I installed the beta3 on my girls notebook, and it looks like crap. |
| 14:36.47 | Kirkburn | IE7 is a very reasonable browser, I'll have you know :) |
| 14:37.03 | Kirkburn | I like it, so ner ner |
| 14:37.05 | Maldivia | if by reasonable, you mean 5 years behind, then yeah |
| 14:37.07 | [KaoS]` | I will stick to Camino.. :) |
| 14:37.23 | [KaoS]` | that you can't use.. so ner ner :) lol |
| 14:37.42 | Maldivia | it has about the same standard compliance as IE5.5 |
| 14:38.58 | Kirkburn | Look, it's fine |
| 14:39.19 | Kirkburn | I'm not going to get into a conversation when you make silly remarks like that |
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| 14:40.40 | Kirkburn | (there's a point where IE-hating goes too far, and you get deviantArt.com v5) |
| 14:40.54 | Kirkburn | I'm off to have a swim ... back later :) |
| 14:43.52 | [KaoS]` | lol |
| 14:45.59 | Maldivia | ok, IE5.5 might be a bit too harsh, but still, IE7 is not much better than IE6 when it comes to following standards |
| 14:46.26 | [KaoS]` | it just got a make over |
| 14:46.28 | [KaoS]` | and it looks ugly |
| 14:46.34 | [KaoS]` | I guess it should look better in "vista" |
| 14:46.38 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: http://www.webdevout.net/browser_support_summary.php?uas=IE6-IE7-FX1_5-OP8-OP9 |
| 15:01.00 | [KaoS]` | hehe |
| 15:06.30 | Beladona | nice page |
| 15:07.38 | Beladona | I so need to experiment with options ui, but I so don't want to |
| 15:08.02 | [KaoS]` | heh |
| 15:08.53 | Beladona | trying to think of a ui panel that is default in wow, that uses a vertical side by side pane |
| 15:09.00 | Beladona | any ideas? |
| 15:09.30 | [KaoS]` | nope.. lol |
| 15:09.37 | Beladona | auction panel I guess |
| 15:09.39 | Beladona | hmm |
| 15:20.46 | TS|Skrom | is CheckInteractDistance the only way to check ranges without using an action id as a reference? |
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| 15:54.31 | GeoDaMancer | Wheee, any of you peoples awake? |
| 15:55.08 | Elkano | nope, we're all asleep |
| 15:55.14 | [KaoS]` | Internet Explorer for Windows XP 7.0.5700.6 RC1 |
| 15:55.23 | [KaoS]` | was just released, Kirkburn|swim :) |
| 15:55.39 | Kirkburn|swim | Seriously? |
| 15:55.45 | Kirkburn|swim | Good timing, that |
| 15:55.45 | zenzelezz | funny, I didn't know there was a Windows XP 7 |
| 15:55.46 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 15:55.51 | Kirkburn|swim | I just came in the room |
| 15:55.58 | [KaoS]` | IE7.0 for Windows XP |
| 15:56.03 | zenzelezz | I know ;) |
| 15:56.05 | [KaoS]` | version 7.0.5.5700.6 RC 1 |
| 15:56.27 | Kirkburn | Thanks for telling me :) |
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| 15:56.41 | GeoDaMancer | Er, alright then. I was just wondering, is there a way to tell if you're behind an opponent? Like, anyway through the ui to do that, sides getting errors. xD |
| 15:56.53 | [KaoS]` | suppressed it allready hit RC1.. |
| 15:56.59 | [KaoS]` | well it is microsoft |
| 15:57.05 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, regarding the webdevout website, the owner supports the advances IE7 has made |
| 15:57.06 | [KaoS]` | they don't care about bugs, and security.. lol |
| 15:57.22 | Kirkburn | It's had THREE betas, c'mon |
| 15:58.06 | [KaoS]` | lol |
| 15:58.12 | Kirkburn | It looks like little change between IE6 and IE7, but they've mostly been fixing bugs rather than making huge advances on the standards compliance stuff |
| 15:58.18 | GeoDaMancer | What is RC1? |
| 15:58.27 | Kirkburn | Release Candidate 1 |
| 15:58.30 | [KaoS]` | no they gave it a makeover |
| 15:58.31 | Gryphen | release candidate |
| 15:58.33 | [KaoS]` | and it looks UGLY.. :P |
| 15:58.39 | Gryphen | looks great |
| 15:58.40 | Kirkburn | I like it ;) |
| 15:58.40 | [KaoS]` | http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Were_Close_to_Shipping_IE7/1156390090 |
| 15:58.50 | TS|Skrom | is CheckInteractDistance the only way to check ranges without using an action id as a reference? |
| 15:59.18 | [Ammo] | TS|Skrom: yes |
| 15:59.36 | GeoDaMancer | Ahhh, I think I get it. >.> I hate IE, and most Microsoft based programs... And, was there any sort of answer to my earlier question? xD |
| 16:00.08 | [Ammo] | TS|Skrom: but if you choose your actions smartly you can get quite a bit of info |
| 16:00.23 | [Ammo] | however not all classes have all ranges in their abilities |
| 16:01.25 | Gryphen | I like IE, and most Microsoft based programs |
| 16:02.02 | Kirkburn | Might be better to change that to "IE7" before the FF brigade come a-knocking :P |
| 16:02.12 | Gryphen | i like IE6 |
| 16:02.14 | Gryphen | too |
| 16:02.42 | End | I loathe IE6, and IE7 is okay |
| 16:03.03 | End | last IE7 beta I tried the UI looked a little odd to me though |
| 16:03.04 | Kirkburn | I would use IE7 over FF1.5, but FF1.5 over IE6 ... but I don't hate IE6 tbh |
| 16:03.22 | [KaoS]` | *sigh* |
| 16:03.22 | Kirkburn | At least they're trying to innovate ;) |
| 16:03.25 | [KaoS]` | you guys will be ok |
| 16:03.35 | [KaoS]` | ehh microsoft innovate ? |
| 16:03.38 | [KaoS]` | I thought they just stole? lol |
| 16:03.40 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 16:03.45 | Gryphen | ive tried using FF exlusively but hate it |
| 16:03.45 | Kirkburn | See Office 2007, IE7 |
| 16:05.04 | Kirkburn | I can't bring myself to use FF either, I only check compatability with it (or websites where the designer is an FF fanboy) |
| 16:05.18 | Gryphen | that is all i have it for |
| 16:06.28 | Hexarobi | i used to hate FF, but its recently won me over |
| 16:06.37 | Kirkburn | ooh, apparently deviantArt may work in RC1 ... we shall see ... |
| 16:06.47 | Hexarobi | with javascript disabled and adblocking blacklists, its faster than ie |
| 16:07.41 | Gryphen | i hate ad blocking, only makes people engineer more obtrusive was of getting revenue |
| 16:07.54 | Kirkburn | IE7 is pretty fast, although the betas have some speed issues with certain pages (which don't appear in IE6) |
| 16:08.16 | End | I use flash block, I don't mind most of the other ads though |
| 16:08.31 | Kirkburn | I suppose I'll have to start comparing IE7 to FF2.0 soon though :P |
| 16:10.47 | Kirkburn | Restarting |
| 16:11.33 | [KaoS]` | sucks |
| 16:11.35 | [KaoS]` | have to reboot? |
| 16:11.51 | GeoDaMancer | He left already. |
| 16:11.58 | TS|Skrom | Ammo how do you find one specific action to test for without making them place it in the same slot all the time. Scan through their action bars using a tooltip scanner? |
| 16:12.16 | TS|Skrom | What if they don't have the action on their bar anywhere... still fall back on checkinteractdistance? |
| 16:12.29 | [Ammo] | TS|Skrom: I guess that's what you have to do |
| 16:12.40 | [Ammo] | just scan the bars when your addon enables |
| 16:13.03 | TS|Skrom | but then if they move their actions around your numbers could be off :( |
| 16:13.06 | [Ammo] | TS|Skrom: you could check Cthunwarner for instance |
| 16:13.18 | [KaoS]` | sorry have my onjoin/onpart/onquit notices off.. :P |
| 16:13.31 | GeoDaMancer | So'k, mang. |
| 16:14.04 | TS|Skrom | I use CheckInteractDistance now which works okay but it makes my addon ignore anyone past 24~ yards |
| 16:14.21 | TS|Skrom | Okay in a five man, but if I want to add raid checking... you aren't always going to be within that range |
| 16:14.36 | [Ammo] | TS|Skrom: or you could check ProximityLib |
| 16:14.39 | [Ammo] | which is in the Ace svn |
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| 16:14.50 | GeoDaMancer | Hey, Ammo, since you seem to know things is there a way to find out if you're behind an mob through the UI, without having to read a thrown error about having to be behind a target? |
| 16:14.52 | [Ammo] | it handles the range stuff for you |
| 16:15.01 | TS|Skrom | Ammo, thanks I will look into that |
| 16:15.08 | [Ammo] | GeoDaMancer: there is no way to know that kinda stuff |
| 16:15.17 | [Ammo] | apart from checking the error event |
| 16:15.44 | [Ammo] | the 3d world is almost entirely no go |
| 16:15.47 | TS|Skrom | I might just stick with the CheckInteractDistance and put a disclaimer in my readme lol |
| 16:16.20 | GeoDaMancer | Alright, I'm too lazy to write something to read the errors that are called. So, it doesn't matter. xD |
| 16:16.43 | TS|Skrom | I really wouldn't even recommend ever using my addon in a real raid but I wanted to add raid support for BG groups hehe |
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| 16:40.24 | Kaso | Anyone with the Legendary mount? |
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| 16:48.17 | TS|Skrom | man I just can't let that one slide.... |
| 16:48.19 | TS|Skrom | I' |
| 16:48.27 | TS|Skrom | I've been referred to as a legendary mount in the past... |
| 16:48.48 | Kaso | haha! |
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| 16:49.43 | DoomGaze3 | lulz |
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| 16:57.03 | Tem | wowzers |
| 16:57.07 | Tem | 16 second queue for WSG |
| 16:57.12 | Tem | (alliance side!) |
| 16:57.23 | DoomGaze3 | freaking awesome aint it? |
| 16:57.43 | Tem|WSG | I could get used tot his |
| 17:00.00 | DoomGaze3 | the honor system is still pointless imho |
| 17:00.09 | JoshBorke | but at least you don't have to wait :-D |
| 17:00.32 | DoomGaze3 | I'll still wait to take advantage until they fix it |
| 17:01.39 | [KaoS]` | what addons do you guys use? |
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| 17:01.55 | DoomGaze3 | ct mod and auctioneer pack |
| 17:02.38 | JoshBorke | FuBar and visor and stuf |
| 17:02.48 | TS|Skrom | Some cosmos, perl unit frames, dab, cecb, auctioneer, sorrens, necrosis, cryolsis, |
| 17:02.51 | BLG | Although UnitAffectingCombat() can be used to determine if in combat, what can be used to determine if you're "in combat" because your attack icon is flashing? |
| 17:03.16 | TS|Skrom | a few fizzwidget's |
| 17:03.21 | TS|Skrom | hrm.. what else lol |
| 17:04.00 | TS|Skrom | oh, titan panel, with flightpath, itemized deductions, skills and emotes loaded + the default |
| 17:04.10 | Kirov | BLG - UnitAffectingCombat("player") works, but there are events that toggle your "in combat" status for the UI. PlayerFrame keeps track of it with two variables. |
| 17:04.29 | Corrodias | hmm. those baby murloc pets fetch quite a nice price on ebay. or, rather, codes for them do. |
| 17:04.30 | BLG | Bah |
| 17:04.34 | BLG | So I have to use the two variable way |
| 17:05.07 | Corrodias | [KaoS]`: my list is about 120 addons long, so i'd rather not list them here. |
| 17:05.08 | Kirov | BLG - two variable way? |
| 17:05.09 | TS|Skrom | if I wanted to hook a function to use my function instead i'd just do OldFunction = NewFunction right? |
| 17:05.18 | BLG | Well, one variable really since I can still use UnitAffectingCombat |
| 17:05.42 | TS|Skrom | I never had the need to hook a functio before so I'm really not sure lol |
| 17:06.04 | Kirov | BLG - PlayerFrame.onHateList == 1 the player is in combat. |
| 17:06.55 | Kirov | there's a PlayerFrame.inCombat variable, but that's actually a misnomer for the current WoW terminology. |
| 17:07.18 | BLG | Yes, I understand the difference between in combat and disabled regen |
| 17:07.21 | Kirkburn | IE7 RC1 looks good :) |
| 17:07.33 | BLG | UnitAffectingCombat is actually disabled regen |
| 17:08.08 | Kirov | BLG - the UI code refers to the difference as Regen vs. AutoAttack turned on. |
| 17:08.35 | Kirov | The terminology displayed to the player is that "regen disabled" is the same as being in combat. |
| 17:09.55 | BLG | And I was looking for a function that reports whether autoattack is on |
| 17:10.06 | BLG | Since the one we already discussed is for regen |
| 17:10.47 | Kirov | Then you want to look at PlayerFrame.inCombat |
| 17:11.02 | Kirov | Or track PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT and PLAYER_LEAVE_COMBAT yourself |
| 17:11.51 | Kirov | Or scan the action bar for an AutoRepeat spell that's enabled. |
| 17:15.45 | BLG | Ah so I can access PlayerFrame.inCombat globally? |
| 17:16.08 | Kirov | Yes |
| 17:16.12 | BLG | That is quite useful, thanks |
| 17:16.31 | BLG | And that is just tracking enter and leave combat, not regen? |
| 17:17.06 | Kirov | BLG - if someone is using a unit frame addon that unregisters the PLAYER_ENTER_COMBAT / LEAVE_COMBAT events from PlayerFrame it'll stop working though, and yes |
| 17:17.12 | Kirov | only combat events, not regen |
| 17:17.40 | BLG | Is there one that tracks both at the same time and is only 1 if in combat and regen disabled, because ultimately that is what I will need |
| 17:17.54 | Corrodias | maybe i need to consider a major rearrangement of my UI. |
| 17:18.03 | BLG | For info, I am writing a quick script for DART mod to manage some elements of my UI |
| 17:19.15 | [KaoS]` | [13:07]KirkburnIE7 RC1 looks good :) <--- you will be ok.. :) |
| 17:20.13 | Kirkburn | I'm mostly just glad that deviantArt doesn't look like a mangy old dog now. I can't imagine what changed between B3 and RC1 to suddenly make it perfect :P Oh well ... |
| 17:20.29 | [KaoS]` | they added CSS support? lol |
| 17:20.44 | Kirkburn | Damn, I can't test it out on the WoW beta forums now :( |
| 17:21.09 | Kirkburn | touche |
| 17:23.07 | [KaoS]` | wow.. lol |
| 17:23.08 | [KaoS]` | http://lvl40mount.ytmnd.com/ |
| 17:23.24 | DoomGaze3 | I'm always up for a ytmnd |
| 17:24.24 | Kirkburn | Nooo, HL2:Ep1 isn't coming until Q1 2007! |
| 17:24.39 | DoomGaze3 | *HL2:Ep2 |
| 17:24.44 | Kirkburn | uh, yeah |
| 17:24.47 | DoomGaze3 | I can't wait for portal |
| 17:25.01 | Kirkburn | hell no |
| 17:25.16 | Kirkburn | Or yes. Whichever agrees with you |
| 17:25.26 | DoomGaze3 | lulz |
| 17:31.11 | TS|Skrom | why do I always forget to put "then" at the end of my if line >< |
| 17:33.27 | TS|Skrom | http://www.pastey.net/381 |
| 17:33.49 | TS|Skrom | someone tell me what's wrong with this. I'm guessing my concatenation is bad, getting Attempt to index 'n' (a number value) |
| 17:35.32 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - what are you trying to do? |
| 17:35.50 | TS|Skrom | I have four staticly assigned variables, heal1 through heal4 |
| 17:36.24 | JoshBorke | you can't do heal..n |
| 17:36.24 | Kirov | what are they called? |
| 17:36.25 | TS|Skrom | I'm going through each one to see if the current tooltip name matches one of them and if so pull the "time" cell out of each variable |
| 17:36.30 | JoshBorke | heal..n returns a string |
| 17:36.33 | TS|Skrom | heal1, heal2, heal3, heal4 |
| 17:36.50 | Kirov | then, yeah, JoshBorke said it |
| 17:36.57 | TS|Skrom | oh... right concat like that coerces it into a string.. forgot.. |
| 17:37.01 | DoomGaze3 | n isn't a table? |
| 17:37.07 | JoshBorke | no, n is a number |
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| 17:37.21 | TS|Skrom | no but now I'm thinking I should put all four heal variables into a table |
| 17:37.23 | DoomGaze3 | heh |
| 17:37.36 | Kirov | foo["bar"] syntax is for getting values from a hash table |
| 17:39.09 | Kirov | the exact line you're looking for is getglobal("heal"..n) |
| 17:39.22 | TS|Skrom | http://www.pastey.net/382 |
| 17:39.28 | TS|Skrom | that should work better for me I think |
| 17:40.31 | Kirov | is heals a table, and is heals[n] a table? |
| 17:41.11 | jaxdahl | will Iriel still have MVP status on the new forums when it goes live? taking bets. |
| 17:42.08 | Kirkburn | Oooh, they've taken action about the alpha 'leaks': http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general-en/1232165.htm |
| 17:42.37 | Kirkburn | I'm off to circuit training, taraa |
| 17:43.57 | TS|Skrom | yep kirov |
| 17:44.04 | TS|Skrom | just tested, worked perfectly |
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| 17:46.07 | TS|Skrom | heh don;t close the laptop if you are trying to save data to it >< lol |
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| 18:06.55 | [RTE] | hello folks |
| 18:07.41 | Kirov | allo |
| 18:09.07 | jaxdahl | wow general forums are going crazy with trolling |
| 18:09.15 | jaxdahl | before the new ones are out |
| 18:20.07 | [RTE] | yep |
| 18:20.16 | [RTE] | unfortunatelly I can't login :( |
| 18:20.53 | Mikk | jaxdahl: Unless they're giving up on the MVP concept entirely: yes :-P |
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| 18:22.44 | Rozr | Anyone very familiar with DHUD code? |
| 18:28.01 | Hexarobi | does JoinChannelByName() block all chat from that channel or something? |
| 18:36.51 | Rozr | hexarobi: I'd imagine it joines a channel based on the string that is given to it at call time |
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| 18:46.24 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 18:46.58 | Beladona | making a config ui sucks -- I am never happy with the accessibility of it |
| 18:47.04 | ComicSansMS | does anyone know what this spamfilter is about that can be activated in the menu since 1.12? |
| 18:52.32 | Rozr | I would assume its exactly as it sounds |
| 18:52.56 | Rozr | a spam filter...if someone talks too many times in a row too fast, it filters out what they are saying for a short period of time |
| 18:57.49 | ComicSansMS | does this work for all channels or only the public ones? |
| 19:00.14 | Beladona | I don't think anyone knows |
| 19:00.32 | Beladona | I didn't see anything from Blizz about it really, and one would need to test it out to know more |
| 19:01.07 | ComicSansMS | mkay, thanks for the info |
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| 19:23.09 | Kirkburn|sporty | zomg, I haven't had a single disconnect today :O |
| 19:23.48 | TS|Skrom | gratz |
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| 19:24.05 | TS|Skrom | someone clap for me I'm actually putting comments in my code omg! |
| 19:24.15 | Grumpey | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.39 | Rozr | I'm wanting to alter DHUD so that the DHUD is relative to the character, not the screen, ie, so if I zoom in or out, the HUD stays proportional to the character, rather than the camera |
| 19:26.39 | Kirkburn|sporty | uhm ... |
| 19:26.50 | TS|Skrom | heh thanks |
| 19:26.56 | Rozr | anyone able to aid me in discussing how I might do this? |
| 19:27.50 | Kirkburn | zomg, the forums are *that* close? |
| 19:29.17 | Cairenn | so they say |
| 19:29.35 | Kirkburn | lol, the thread is already 39 pages long :) |
| 19:29.42 | Firedancer | the funny thing is that the forum release post made by tseric (which said they'd be live wiuthin the hour) took 2 hours to break |
| 19:29.47 | Firedancer | and the old forums are still up :p |
| 19:29.49 | Cairenn | well, it was put up like 3 hrs ago |
| 19:29.56 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 19:29.58 | Cairenn | what Firedancer said |
| 19:30.33 | Firedancer | i tried logging into the current ones...and only the two chars that I haven't transferred or deleted showed up to pick from to post |
| 19:30.50 | Firedancer | my transferred chars and my new alts on that server were missing ;p |
| 19:30.51 | Rozr | Cairenn: oo I've been waiting around here all morning hopingI could catch you and ask you a small question |
| 19:30.58 | Cairenn | ask |
| 19:32.19 | Kirkburn | Wow, HD DVD's slogan has been revealed. It's AWFUL: http://blog.pcformat.co.uk/?entry=hilariously_rubbish_hd_dvd_slogan |
| 19:33.22 | ComicSansMS | wow, that's truly impressive... especially the tm at the end ;) |
| 19:33.34 | TS|Skrom | that's... sad |
| 19:33.36 | Kirkburn | Years of thought must have gone into it ;) |
| 19:33.40 | Firedancer | that's awful lol |
| 19:33.53 | ComicSansMS | do they have a slogan for blue ray yet? |
| 19:34.18 | Hexarobi | somebody came up with that and then shouted... "i've got it!" |
| 19:34.44 | Hexarobi | blueray... the audio and video of perfect |
| 19:34.55 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 19:36.42 | TS|Skrom | I suppose their's no api call to tell the level a spell is learned is there? |
| 19:36.54 | Rozr | is there any way to set a frame to be relative to your character rather than the camera view? |
| 19:38.54 | JoshBorke | Rozr: nope, UI knows nothing of the 3d world |
| 19:39.15 | Firedancer | erm. if anyone has a way to contact TS or Cide (if they're not in here)...please let them know that their imagelink mirror for CTRA is distributing 1.538 and not 1.54 please |
| 19:39.53 | Cairenn | done |
| 19:40.39 | Cairenn | "TS: did whoever that is read the update I posted like 2 hours ago?" |
| 19:41.12 | Firedancer | I didn't see it til i refreshed my cache |
| 19:41.15 | Firedancer | sorry :\ |
| 19:41.27 | Firedancer | ona regular page reload that msg wasn't there |
| 19:41.32 | Kirov | Cairenn - TS hasn't learned that people don't read yet? |
| 19:42.01 | Firedancer | sometimes firefox annoys me >< |
| 19:42.24 | Cairenn | Firedancer: he wants you to make sure it's updated for you, it is for him |
| 19:43.51 | Firedancer | k i'll try DLing |
| 19:45.21 | Firedancer | the only link showing on ct page now is ogaming which was working ok. i don't see an imagelink url |
| 19:45.39 | zenzelezz | bah, I don't like Huhuran :-( |
| 19:45.42 | Cairenn | he (TS) took the ilink back off |
| 19:45.53 | Firedancer | ah okie |
| 19:48.53 | Kirov | zenzelezz - lol |
| 19:49.01 | Kirov | zenzelezz - it's an evil fight |
| 19:49.36 | Kirov | Cairenn - is there a reason why the wowi link isn't listed? |
| 19:49.50 | Cairenn | Kirov: ? |
| 19:49.56 | Firedancer | I'm not trying to be a pest...honest :( just want guildies to stop complaining at each other when some think they had upgrade and didn't due to faulty DL :| i'm sowwy |
| 19:50.04 | Kirov | Cairenn - on the CTMod site |
| 19:50.12 | Kirov | is ogaming and wowi on the same server? |
| 19:50.27 | Cairenn | you'd have to ask TS or Cide about that (the link) and no, different servers |
| 19:51.08 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 19:51.15 | Gryphen | one server for all og sites |
| 19:51.44 | Kirov | Gryphen - it's not unheard of |
| 19:51.46 | Kirov | it's evil |
| 19:51.49 | Kirov | but not unheard of |
| 19:52.06 | Kirov | early Critical Mass sites suffered from that problem |
| 19:52.26 | Kirov | (Critical Mass is the name of the company that became GameSpy Industries) |
| 19:52.41 | Rozr | JoshBorke, hmmm any idea at what ratio the wheelmouse zoom zooms in and out? so I could "emulate" as if it were relative to the character? |
| 19:52.46 | Gryphen | thanks, i didnt know that ;) |
| 19:53.17 | JoshBorke | not a frickin clue :-D |
| 19:53.35 | Cairenn | you did |
| 19:53.40 | Cairenn | oh you definitely did |
| 19:53.44 | Kirov | joy |
| 19:53.48 | TS|Skrom | if I have a table variable in this case... heals.1.reductions... do I have to have a heals.2.reductions or will it just return nil if I do and if to call it... |
| 19:53.55 | TS|Skrom | or will it error out? |
| 19:54.13 | Kirov | making a wild guess and saying Gryphen is affiliated with GameSpy? |
| 19:54.32 | Gryphen | yeah |
| 19:54.35 | JoshBorke | if heals.2 does not exist, then you'll get an error with heals.2.reductions |
| 19:54.47 | Kirov | Gryphen - for how long? |
| 19:54.51 | TS|Skrom | so I should go ahead and put... heals.2.reductions and just make it "" |
| 19:55.13 | JoshBorke | if heals.2 exists, then heals.2.reductions will return nil |
| 19:55.40 | Kirov | Rozr - emulate? |
| 19:55.51 | Gryphen | early 99 |
| 19:55.55 | TS|Skrom | but what I'm wondering is... later when I try to pull any and all entries in the reductions[] will it error if there is no [] to pull from |
| 19:55.56 | Rozr | Kirov, JoshBorke said that UI cannot interact with 3d world whatsoever |
| 19:56.37 | Kirov | Rozr - this is correct, with the exceptions of API calls to toggle certain things. |
| 19:56.43 | Rozr | Kirov, so I'm wondering at what ratio the zoom (scroll wheel) ina nd out, zoom in and out, so that I can shrink/grow DHUD so that it looks as tho its relative to the character |
| 19:56.58 | Kirov | Rozr - ah |
| 19:57.20 | Kirov | Near impossible to know since I believe it's variable |
| 19:57.40 | JoshBorke | isn't there a way to get what your current zoom in? |
| 19:57.46 | JoshBorke | s/in/is/ |
| 19:57.52 | Kirov | JoshBorke - nope |
| 19:58.06 | JoshBorke | what about hooking the function to set the zoom? |
| 19:58.08 | Kirov | You can tell the camera to zoom in, or zoom out, but not know where in the zoom you're at |
| 19:58.18 | JoshBorke | ah, i see |
| 19:58.31 | Kirov | Luckily the camera resets to a default location after a ui reload or logging in to the game |
| 19:58.55 | Rozr | any way to tell what your camera angle is at? |
| 19:59.11 | Kirov | Rozr - camera rotation information is strictly offlimits. |
| 19:59.31 | Kirov | Actually, you can't query anything about the camera from the UI. |
| 19:59.49 | Kirov | All the API calls are to set or toggle a camera option, but you can't know the results. |
| 19:59.55 | Iriel | Also, landscape and objects can move the camera at any time (other than first person) |
| 20:00.19 | Kirov | Yeah, that's a bigger issue. Camera collision |
| 20:00.27 | Iriel | Is it worth posting on the forum while it's "in transition" ? |
| 20:00.48 | Kirov | Iriel - no idea |
| 20:01.45 | Kirkburn | Btw, I think MVPs will be green in the new forum :) |
| 20:01.50 | TS|Skrom | the way I'm seeing it from wowwiki is there are two things that affect +healing for direct healing spells... it's cast time and if you learned it below level 20... anything else that anyone knows about? |
| 20:02.20 | TS|Skrom | phases of the moon? etc |
| 20:02.29 | Iriel | Green? |
| 20:02.38 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - direct healing / cast time are basically the same |
| 20:02.51 | TS|Skrom | hrm? |
| 20:02.54 | Iriel | At least it'll match my character's hair |
| 20:03.08 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - there's a minimum amount +healing can do. |
| 20:03.23 | Kirov | I believe it's 1 second of cast, but don't quote me on that. |
| 20:03.27 | TS|Skrom | right but what I'm saying is there are two variables taht effect how much you get |
| 20:03.32 | Kirkburn | Green text, can't remember where I saw it though :/ |
| 20:03.40 | Kirov | anything less than 1 second is treated as 1 second cast for +healing calculations |
| 20:03.47 | TS|Skrom | casttime/1.5 * apenalty for learning it below 20 |
| 20:03.48 | Cairenn | Iriel: the forum was supposed to be transitioned over, over 4 hrs ago ... go ahead and post |
| 20:03.51 | Kirkburn | Bluetracker, naturally :P |
| 20:03.57 | Rozr | Kirov, so basicaly your saying "trial and error?" |
| 20:04.19 | Rozr | or: "use external methods to find out the camera angle?" |
| 20:04.34 | TS|Skrom | I knew about those two penalty's trying to figure out if there is anything else and from what i'm reading it looks not |
| 20:04.45 | Iriel | Cairenn : I dont see the new forum |
| 20:04.49 | TS|Skrom | s/penalt's/penalties/ |
| 20:04.50 | Kirov | Rozr - unfortunatly. It gets worse because you can't know for sure how many "clicks" it takes to get to the furthest back extent of a camera position since that is variable to the user. |
| 20:04.51 | Kirkburn | Heh, this is excellent :) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9644349&p=#post9644349 |
| 20:04.56 | Cairenn | they aren't up yet, that's my point |
| 20:05.03 | Cairenn | go ahead and post in the old |
| 20:05.04 | Iriel | So posting is a waste of time, becusae it's been copied |
| 20:05.13 | JoshBorke | page not found :-( |
| 20:05.18 | Iriel | ? |
| 20:05.34 | Kirkburn | The forums won't disappear immediately |
| 20:05.49 | Cairenn | or I'm just completely not understanding, which is also entirely possible |
| 20:05.55 | Kirkburn | There will be a while whilst the old forums are left locked |
| 20:05.57 | JoshBorke | ooo, i have the new forums |
| 20:06.16 | Iriel | I meant "If I post in the old forum, will my post make it into the new forum too, or should I wait" |
| 20:06.19 | Kirov | so, will the new forums have a ui forum? |
| 20:06.22 | Kirkburn | JoshBorke, how? |
| 20:06.23 | Kirov | unlike the beta |
| 20:06.27 | Kirkburn | Kirov, of course :P |
| 20:06.38 | Kirkburn | All posts from the old forum will die |
| 20:06.40 | Cairenn | ahhhh, I comprehend now ... no, it won't be copied over |
| 20:06.47 | Cairenn | from what I understand |
| 20:06.51 | Kirkburn | DIE, I tell you |
| 20:06.56 | Kirkburn | With burny stuff |
| 20:06.56 | Iriel | *nod* that's what I assumed also |
| 20:07.01 | Kirkburn | And carrots |
| 20:07.10 | Kirkburn | Mmmm, tasty |
| 20:07.19 | Kirov | Curiously they appear to be requiring people to be logged in to view as well |
| 20:07.26 | Cairenn | JoshBorke: how do you have the new forums? I still only get the old, and they *aren't* locked down yet |
| 20:07.51 | Kirov | isn't josh EU? |
| 20:07.58 | Cairenn | point |
| 20:07.58 | JoshBorke | not a clue, but um, they look new |
| 20:08.00 | JoshBorke | no |
| 20:08.04 | JoshBorke | US :-P |
| 20:08.10 | Kirov | nvm then |
| 20:08.12 | Kirkburn | Same link? forums.world... ? |
| 20:08.16 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 20:08.27 | JoshBorke | the main forums page looks the same, but the actual forums look different, the threads and all |
| 20:08.32 | Kirkburn | Clear, you bloody cache! |
| 20:08.37 | JoshBorke | i have a single thread in UI & Macros forum |
| 20:08.40 | JoshBorke | ctrl+f5 |
| 20:08.53 | Kirkburn | Yeah, not working |
| 20:08.55 | Cairenn | same ol same old for me |
| 20:08.59 | Kirov | me too |
| 20:09.05 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 20:09.07 | JoshBorke | 3 threads in raids |
| 20:09.09 | Cairenn | I want the new so I can get the damn stickies back up! |
| 20:09.11 | Kirov | JoshBorke - Pull the other one! |
| 20:09.14 | JoshBorke | 1 of them: Onynia DB more in 1.12 |
| 20:09.23 | Kirkburn | It's got bells on :P |
| 20:09.42 | zenzelezz | Onynia? |
| 20:10.00 | JoshBorke | s/Onynia/Onyxia/ |
| 20:10.18 | JoshBorke | you guys all lose :-P |
| 20:10.27 | Kirkburn | I'm off to have dinner. Go go DNS switch ... :) |
| 20:10.29 | zenzelezz | lose interest |
| 20:10.36 | Cairenn | later Kirkburn|yummers |
| 20:10.43 | Kirkburn|yummers | taraa |
| 20:11.10 | JoshBorke | man, my characters aren't my in-game characters anymore :-( they're all spiffy and stuff :-( |
| 20:12.22 | Kirov | >.< |
| 20:12.36 | Cairenn | man, someone needs to tell Blizz to make me a MVP too, so people might actually stfu and listen to me when I say something :p |
| 20:13.18 | Kirov | Cairenn - We listen to you! |
| 20:13.34 | Cairenn | hah! starting when? |
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| 20:13.52 | Kirov | Cairenn - I didn't say anything about paying attention. |
| 20:13.57 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 20:15.20 | Kirov | hmm ... awesome junk e-mail letter mixing ... from: lolita, "rerapture a bit of your youth again!" |
| 20:16.37 | Kirov | I need to move away from this e-mail account I think |
| 20:17.37 | TS|Skrom | omg why! |
| 20:17.40 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 20:22.09 | TS|Skrom | hrm... can you getn on a subtable of another table? |
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| 20:22.56 | ckknight | table.getn(t[1]) |
| 20:23.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | gahhhh |
| 20:23.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | tried Ferocious biting a rogue at 5% hp |
| 20:23.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | dodge dodge parry miss parry miss dodge i die |
| 20:23.21 | TS|Skrom | oh... do you have to put table.getn? no wonder it didn't work XD |
| 20:23.34 | Kirov | Mr_Rabies2 - evasion ftw! |
| 20:23.36 | TS|Skrom | I just put getn |
| 20:23.48 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - getn works as well for wow |
| 20:24.09 | Kirov | but table.getn is "more correct" |
| 20:25.08 | TS|Skrom | reductions=heals[dx]["reductions"]; |
| 20:25.10 | TS|Skrom | bah |
| 20:25.16 | Cairenn | gimmah new forumage! |
| 20:25.20 | TS|Skrom | heals = { |
| 20:25.21 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.25 | TS|Skrom | that's the table... |
| 20:26.02 | TS|Skrom | reduxn=table.getn(heals[dx]["reductions"]) |
| 20:26.03 | Kirkburn|yummers | Mmm, yummers |
| 20:26.06 | TS|Skrom | this is being returned as 0 |
| 20:26.12 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - you can't do getn() on hash tables |
| 20:26.29 | TS|Skrom | what's a hash table? |
| 20:26.45 | JoshBorke | hash table is a table with an index other than an integer |
| 20:26.53 | JoshBorke | you have to use for key,value in pairs(tbl) do |
| 20:27.15 | JoshBorke | anyone know of a linux file system that allows you to have multi-master/data replication services that doesn't require a SAN? |
| 20:28.45 | Kirov | JoshBorke - Sure, I use ham for my soap too! |
| 20:28.54 | TS|Skrom | can I do for key,value in heals[dx]["reductions"] ? |
| 20:29.13 | Kirov | (Josh's comment made about that much sense to me) ;) |
| 20:29.19 | kergoth | i know of a couple such filesystems, but i'm drawing a blank on the names. i remember coming across one of them when i was researching union filesystems |
| 20:29.21 | Kirkburn | :D ""Starting with The Burning Crusade, every year thereafter we plan on bringing out a new expansion set - so every 12 months." |
| 20:29.28 | kergoth | (this was before unionfs existed) |
| 20:29.45 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - yes |
| 20:31.10 | Kirkburn | For StarCraft fans ... i.e. all of you :) http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=982 |
| 20:31.11 | Kirov | for k, v in ipairs(heals) do |
| 20:31.11 | Kirov | for j, z in pairs(v) do |
| 20:31.11 | Kirov | --stuff |
| 20:31.11 | Kirov | end |
| 20:31.46 | Kirov | Kirkburn - "Major Product Announcement" for blizzard means "Yes, we're working on this game and it should be out in 1-5 years" |
| 20:31.55 | TS|Skrom | ["reductions"] = {["Rank 1"] = {"Rank 1",.7125}, -- I could reduce this to ["reductions"] = {["Rank 1"] = .7125, and just use if key = spellRank then I would suppose |
| 20:32.11 | Kirov | TS|Skrom - yes |
| 20:32.19 | Kirkburn | Kirov ... "Valve Time" is better ;) http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time |
| 20:32.25 | AnduinLothar | Mikk, you around? |
| 20:33.15 | Kirkburn | Valve Time: When it's done Actual Time: A month or two after just to be sure |
| 20:33.16 | Kirov | heals = { ["Holy Light"] = { time = 2.5, ["Rank 1"] = 0.7125 } } also valid |
| 20:33.40 | JoshBorke | kergoth, :-( |
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| 20:34.10 | Kirkburn | Hehe, Tseric has put these things "On Notice" for the new forums :P http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3221034 |
| 20:34.12 | kergoth | i'll see if i can dig it up |
| 20:34.15 | TS|Skrom | true, but reductions has more then one rank to it |
| 20:34.26 | TS|Skrom | that's why I made it it's own table |
| 20:35.34 | kergoth | JoshBorke: bingo, i had bookmarked one of them on my del.icio.us page ;) |
| 20:35.37 | kergoth | JoshBorke: looks like it hasnt been updated in ages though :( |
| 20:35.37 | kergoth | JoshBorke: http://ian.blenke.com/blog/projects/cornfs/cornfs.html |
| 20:35.37 | kergoth | CORNFS is an attempt at creating a distributed filesystem that mirrors N copies of files across a group of M number of servers. Everything in CORNFS is stored as a file."~" |
| 20:36.00 | JoshBorke | why not? <reductions> = { <spell name> = { [<rank>] = <whatever>, [<rank 2>] = <whatever> }, etc }? or am i missing something? |
| 20:36.02 | kergoth | s/"~"$/"/ |
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| 20:37.29 | Kirkburn | Interview with the executive producer for the expansion! http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/misc/fpearceinterview.html |
| 20:38.01 | Kirov | How many people know who Jack Thompson is? |
| 20:38.19 | ckknight | I do |
| 20:38.24 | Kirkburn | Jack Thompson: madman, crazy fool, man who wants to shoot game developers |
| 20:38.24 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/JakeNukem.jpg |
| 20:38.28 | Kirkburn | Amirite? |
| 20:38.41 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 20:38.52 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:39.31 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/JakeNukem3D.jpg - this one too, but not as good |
| 20:39.47 | Kirkburn | He's so sexy |
| 20:40.29 | Kirov | on athe subject of random images ... still my personal favorite new race for wow |
| 20:40.29 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/WoWAlf.jpg |
| 20:40.37 | Cairenn | I know who he is |
| 20:40.47 | Cairenn | (how could I not) |
| 20:41.29 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 20:41.46 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/Chromaggus02.jpg - first time I saw Chromaggus in-game |
| 20:41.54 | Kirov | (notice something wrong in the background?) |
| 20:42.14 | Kirkburn | Dead people? |
| 20:42.23 | Kirov | Ebonroc, Flamegor, Firemaw, and Chromaggus all at once. |
| 20:42.32 | chuckg | wowace svn is hosed? |
| 20:42.39 | Kirov | a rogue throught it'd be fun to pull the lever |
| 20:42.42 | Cairenn | frequently |
| 20:43.20 | ckknight | chuckg, yea |
| 20:44.02 | Shadowed | I see the forums are being upgraded |
| 20:44.18 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/1337.jpg - also fun (check my ranged ap) |
| 20:44.19 | Cairenn | gimmah new forumage! |
| 20:44.57 | Shadowed | oh hey cool |
| 20:45.00 | Shadowed | they *work* in IE7 |
| 20:45.46 | chuckg | Is that an NR ring on Kirov? |
| 20:46.27 | ckknight | don't work in Opera, though |
| 20:47.02 | TS|Skrom | rankModPen = heals[dx]["reductions"][key][1] |
| 20:47.10 | TS|Skrom | this is telling me somthing is a nil value |
| 20:47.12 | Shadowed | Searching still is broken |
| 20:47.12 | Kirov | Shadowed - Circlet of Applied Force |
| 20:47.34 | TS|Skrom | nm |
| 20:47.40 | Kirov | Shadowed - no it's not, that's working as intended! |
| 20:49.17 | jaxdahl | new forums: http://12.129.252.27/ (do a reverse DNS lookup if you don't believe me) |
| 20:49.35 | jaxdahl | they did a DNS switch to point to the new forums |
| 20:49.39 | jaxdahl | so it's not showing up fo reveryone |
| 20:49.44 | jaxdahl | if your DNS is cached |
| 20:49.47 | Kirkburn | finally :D |
| 20:49.48 | Shadowed | ah |
| 20:49.58 | Kirkburn | Knew it was gonna be a DNS issue |
| 20:50.20 | wereHamster | will europe also get this nice new forum? |
| 20:50.24 | ckknight | jaxdahl, thanks. |
| 20:50.33 | Kirkburn | yeah, wereHamster |
| 20:50.36 | Cairenn | jaxdahl: thanks! |
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| 20:50.52 | Kirkburn | Indeed, thanks jaxdahl |
| 20:50.53 | Kirov | wereHamster - you'll get the hand-me-down forums from the US |
| 20:51.11 | jaxdahl | 12.129.217.203 <-- old forums |
| 20:51.26 | jaxdahl | it's the same class B |
| 20:51.28 | ckknight | feel free to post on the new forums about how you'd like to have my babies. |
| 20:51.30 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:51.47 | jaxdahl | you'll get an SSL wawrning if you try to post on the one with the IP url |
| 20:51.56 | jaxdahl | try to login, that is |
| 20:52.11 | jaxdahl | try ipconfig /flushdns if you're in windows |
| 20:52.17 | jaxdahl | your ISP may still be caching the query though |
| 20:52.31 | Mikk | Okay, where is MentalPower |
| 20:52.34 | Mikk | I'm going to thwap him hard |
| 20:52.49 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/StringHash/Analysis <- this is his damn fault :-P |
| 20:53.08 | Kirkburn | Ach, the new forums are making IE7 RC1 very unhappy |
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| 20:53.58 | Kirkburn | Btw, Pluto is going to lose it's status as a planet :O |
| 20:54.07 | TS|Skrom | yep :( |
| 20:54.09 | TS|Skrom | poor doggy |
| 20:54.15 | Hexarobi | ooo nooes |
| 20:54.25 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 20:54.28 | Hexarobi | they didnt like the idea of 12 planets? |
| 20:54.55 | Kirkburn | indeed no |
| 20:55.08 | Kirkburn | There are various reasons against defining planets anyway |
| 20:55.30 | Hexarobi | ya i can live with the loss of pluto |
| 20:55.30 | Kirov | Pluto isn't a planet |
| 20:55.33 | Hexarobi | its no neptune |
| 20:55.37 | Kirov | it's two planets! |
| 20:55.46 | wereHamster | Kirkburn, any ETA on the new forum in EU? |
| 20:55.48 | Hexarobi | planet x? |
| 20:56.05 | Kirkburn | I'm attempting to see, if IE wouldn't stop overheating |
| 20:56.09 | Hexarobi | i think we need to check outthe dark side of the moon |
| 20:56.37 | Kirov | excluding Xena, isn't neptune now the last planet out, past pluto? |
| 20:56.50 | Hexarobi | firefox should change its name to internet conquistador |
| 20:56.54 | jaxdahl | ewwwww |
| 20:56.56 | Kirov | I seem to remember seeing something about them switching at some point, can't remember if it's happened yet or not. |
| 20:56.57 | jaxdahl | on the forums, |
| 20:57.06 | jaxdahl | i made a post with BB codes, previewed it |
| 20:57.15 | jaxdahl | then hit back, post was gone.. hit forward again then hit edit |
| 20:57.21 | Hexarobi | neptune is sometimes outside the orbit of pluto |
| 20:57.23 | jaxdahl | and the result had HTML tags instead which didnt' work |
| 20:57.28 | Hexarobi | im not sure if it is at this exact moment in time |
| 20:57.37 | Hexarobi | but most of the time its closer |
| 20:58.16 | Kirkburn | wereHamster, no evidence of the EU forums on the new US ones (the beta forums had a selector on the last version) |
| 20:58.20 | jaxdahl | http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Solar/action?sys=-Sf |
| 20:58.53 | Mikk | Hexarobi: isn't it more the case of pluto being inside neptune's orbit? =) |
| 20:58.58 | Kirkburn | It may be that once the EU forums are launched the forum selector may return of course. The selector, for US, DE, FR, EN, was next to the select theme bit |
| 21:00.04 | Kirkburn | Hmm, something about the forum selection list makes IE7 cry |
| 21:00.11 | Beladona | Mikk is right, pluto has an off center orbit, that brings it within neptunes orbit |
| 21:00.24 | Hexarobi | no i think plutos is more circular and neptunes is crazy eliptical, but i certainly could be wrong ;) |
| 21:00.28 | Kirkburn | It's true, it was inside the orbit until 1999 I think |
| 21:00.33 | Mikk | Hexarobi: other way around =) |
| 21:00.41 | Kirkburn | PLuto is the crazy one |
| 21:00.42 | Hexarobi | ok |
| 21:00.44 | Beladona | one would have to wonder what it would be like if somehow, by chance they collided |
| 21:00.50 | Beladona | that would be neat |
| 21:01.11 | Beladona | I don't think they actually intersect though |
| 21:01.21 | Kirkburn | Uh, no, fortunately :P |
| 21:01.25 | Beladona | not in 3 dimensional terms anyway |
| 21:01.50 | Beladona | did they ever explain WHY pluto has that orbit? |
| 21:01.52 | Mikk | I doubt Neptune would notice it very much |
| 21:02.11 | Hexarobi | i also think we need to rename uranus to a greek god |
| 21:02.12 | Kirkburn | Pluto is more like an asteroid |
| 21:02.18 | Hexarobi | or go back and write a greek god uranus into history |
| 21:02.19 | Mikk | Beladona: Speculation is that it's just an oversized asteroid that got sucked in from the cloud quite late after the solar system was formed |
| 21:02.33 | Kirkburn | Which cloud, c'mon, spell it ;) |
| 21:02.41 | Mikk | I don't remember the bloody name :-P |
| 21:02.47 | Beladona | regardless, something is holding it's orbit, causing it to be offcenter |
| 21:02.48 | Kirkburn | Oort, I think :P |
| 21:02.49 | Mikk | the asteroidy cloud outside pluto :-P |
| 21:02.55 | Mikk | Ooooh yeah that sounds familiar =) |
| 21:03.10 | Hexarobi | maybe there was a greek god named uranus, and the catholic church wrote him out of history when they added jesus, cuz he was into gay sex |
| 21:03.10 | Mikk | Beladona: Not offcenter. Elliptical. It can hold that orbit forever. |
| 21:03.38 | Kirkburn | All planetary orbit's are 'offcenter' since they're eliptical :P |
| 21:03.49 | Beladona | http://www.nineplanets.org/plutodyn.html |
| 21:03.59 | Mikk | Look at most comets for instance. Now THAT's elliptical =) |
| 21:04.00 | Beladona | you know what I mean Mikk |
| 21:04.01 | Kirkburn | Pluto's is out of the normal plane and much more elliptical than any other |
| 21:04.21 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:04.38 | Kirkburn | That website will have to change its name :) |
| 21:05.18 | Mikk | haha |
| 21:05.20 | Beladona | I know some time ago there was speculation about a possible body outside the solar system that causes its orbit to draw diferenty |
| 21:05.43 | Mikk | Ahhh yeah |
| 21:05.43 | Hexarobi | planet x |
| 21:05.57 | Mikk | Yeah ok that bit about its orbit. Yeah, I'm following now =) |
| 21:06.33 | Kirkburn | loituma ... except not :P http://www.kharkovforum.com/public_files/hentaitsop.swf.htm |
| 21:07.02 | Beladona | ok, heading out |
| 21:07.06 | Beladona | have fun all |
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| 21:07.15 | Kirkburn | And you :) |
| 21:07.15 | Mikk | seeya |
| 21:07.54 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 21:07.55 | purl | it has been said that mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT |
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| 21:11.22 | Corrodias | i don't suppose any of you want up to 8 cats/kittens? |
| 21:12.26 | Hexarobi | ingame? |
| 21:12.35 | Corrodias | no, in real life |
| 21:12.37 | Kirkburn | yay kittens! |
| 21:13.08 | Zicon | I'd love to, but I became allergic a couple of years ago. |
| 21:13.46 | Kirkburn | I wanna kittie :) But I wouldn't be able to look after it atm |
| 21:14.04 | Iriel | Mikk: I have a link to a page full of string hashing algorithms if you'd like to do more testing? |
| 21:14.52 | Kirkburn | Corrodias, why? :) |
| 21:15.10 | Corrodias | because that's how many are stuffed into our upstairs hallway, now :/ |
| 21:15.22 | Kirkburn | aww |
| 21:15.47 | Corrodias | we've been catching the wild cats around here with intent to give them to people, but you know, most people who want cats can already easily get them and therefore have them. |
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| 21:16.06 | Iriel | Hm, so they DIDN"T copy threads across to the new forums. Nice. |
| 21:16.47 | Iriel | And i'm not an MVP there yet |
| 21:17.09 | Kirkburn | They wanted a fresh start |
| 21:17.13 | Gryphen | new forums, clean slate :D |
| 21:17.23 | Gryphen | lol |
| 21:17.40 | Kirkburn | Mostly they want to control the stickies more closely now :P (ner, ner, beat you Gryphen ) |
| 21:17.50 | TS|Skrom | can anyone tell my why IsBuffActive is giving me a buff idex 1 higher then it should? |
| 21:18.32 | Iriel | TS|Skrom Are you mixing up UnitBuff and PlayerBuff API calls? |
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| 21:18.49 | TS|Skrom | I don' |
| 21:18.51 | TS|Skrom | know |
| 21:19.22 | TS|Skrom | I'm doing IsBuffActive("Blessing of Light", AutoTarget) where auto could be "player" or "partyx" |
| 21:19.44 | TS|Skrom | I suppose player starts at 0 and target starts at 1 eh? |
| 21:20.13 | Iriel | Well, what call are you using to check the buff afterwards? |
| 21:20.26 | Iriel | I seem to recall the player calls being 0 based, I may be hallucinating. |
| 21:20.42 | TS|Skrom | I'm setting my scanning tooltip to that index |
| 21:20.46 | TS|Skrom | and it's coming up one too high |
| 21:22.03 | Iriel | What call are you using on the tooltip? |
| 21:22.15 | Iriel | :SetPlayerBuff (buffIndex) - (x) API |
| 21:22.15 | Iriel | :SetUnitBuff ("unit", index [,raidFilter]) - (x,x) API |
| 21:22.15 | Iriel | :SetUnitDebuff ("unit", index [,raidFilter]) - (x,x) (x,x,x) API |
| 21:22.26 | Iriel | The Player one has a different indexing scheme than the Unit ones |
| 21:22.45 | TS|Skrom | gotcha |
| 21:22.55 | TS|Skrom | so I should do if player buff index = buff index -1 |
| 21:22.56 | TS|Skrom | ? |
| 21:23.00 | Kirov | which is annoying as hell |
| 21:23.23 | Iriel | No, it's not that clean |
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| 21:23.58 | Iriel | If you're doing tooltip scanning you probably shouldn't use IsBuffActive anyway |
| 21:24.05 | Iriel | Since I believe *IT* has to scan tooltips as well |
| 21:24.09 | Iriel | and so you end up doing stuff twice |
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| 21:24.51 | TS|Skrom | hrm.. well what i'm doing is trying to pull tooltip data (for how much the blessing of light is adding to the heal) and I want to do that at runtime based on what rank blessing of light the target has on them |
| 21:25.06 | TS|Skrom | so i was just going to set a tooltip with the index from isbuffactive then read the text from it |
| 21:26.23 | Kirov | iterate over buffs, see if the TextLeft1:GetText() matches what you're looking for, then TextRight1:GetText() for the rank |
| 21:27.45 | TS|Skrom | I guess I don't need isbuffactive for that then lol |
| 21:28.35 | TS|Skrom | although I guess I could save some cycles if the buff isn't active at all to begin with |
| 21:29.17 | Kirov | IsBuffActive just iterates over buffs, getting the tooltip, and parsing the first line |
| 21:29.25 | jaxdahl | TS|Skrom, are you working over a theorycraft-like addon? |
| 21:29.40 | Iriel | If it's a specific buff you're looking for, you could scan for the icon first, then only check the tooltip if the icon matches |
| 21:29.41 | TS|Skrom | Not quite no, it's a healhelper mod I decided to try my hand at. |
| 21:29.45 | Iriel | That'll be much faster |
| 21:29.51 | TS|Skrom | ooo good idea |
| 21:30.18 | TS|Skrom | haha I forgot my pally had reckoning I just wtfpwnd the scorpid I've been tanking for the last 15 minutes |
| 21:31.09 | Iriel | Where is my dinosaur! *pout* |
| 21:31.28 | ckknight | Iriel, hehe |
| 21:33.00 | Iriel | Aha, email from Tyren |
| 21:33.39 | Kirkburn | oh yes? |
| 21:34.19 | Iriel | They have to re-apply the MVP statuses, so needed us to log in. |
| 21:34.58 | Kirkburn | aha |
| 21:35.39 | Cairenn | Iriel |
| 21:35.43 | Kirov | hmm |
| 21:35.44 | Kirkburn | Pity quotes still don't reference the quote author :( |
| 21:35.47 | wereHamster | Iriel, don't you have to 'earn' the MVP status? or is it for lifetime? |
| 21:36.01 | Cairenn | the amount you can put in each post is much shorter, you'll need to verify it's all in there |
| 21:36.03 | wereHamster | :p |
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| 21:36.53 | Iriel | Cairenn : I see the datestamp at the bottom so i'm good - but thanks for the heads up, I hadn't actually checked. |
| 21:37.08 | Iriel | wereHamster : It's revocable at any time for any reason by the powers that be. |
| 21:37.19 | Cairenn | yeah, I missed it at first too, I've got to basically re-do the entire faq's =/ |
| 21:37.52 | Kirov | uhg |
| 21:37.59 | jaxdahl | it's already back : http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=10931108&sid=1 |
| 21:38.03 | Kirov | Cairenn - I see that, really annoying. |
| 21:38.09 | Cairenn | because, of course, I didn't bother with previews, I was just doing straight copy-paste |
| 21:38.09 | Warla | howsy |
| 21:38.14 | Warla | whats up :-) |
| 21:38.21 | Cairenn | and trying to get stuff over before the morons come to play in the middle of the threads |
| 21:38.29 | jaxdahl | kinda sucks you can't see what forum the thread is in anymore by looking @ the url |
| 21:39.41 | Shadowed | v |
| 21:39.41 | Shadowed | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/11205595/live/39 |
| 21:39.45 | Shadowed | AURASTOLENOTHEROTHER ? |
| 21:39.52 | jaxdahl | hmm, you can tell if a post has been reported: http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11541322&sid=1 -- look at the biohazard icon |
| 21:40.01 | Kirkburn | Who remembers this? :D http://www.webhamster.com/ |
| 21:40.03 | Iriel | The timer thing is a real pain for that |
| 21:40.22 | Cairenn | Iriel: indeed =/ |
| 21:40.33 | Cairenn | it was bad enough before, it's frigging nuts now |
| 21:41.09 | Kirkburn | The timer is still there? |
| 21:41.23 | Cairenn | oh yes |
| 21:41.26 | Kirkburn | It should be disabled for MVPs at least |
| 21:41.32 | Cairenn | I've already poked at him |
| 21:41.54 | Kirov | timer? |
| 21:42.02 | Iriel | There's an inter-post timer |
| 21:42.06 | Iriel | 1 minute, I think |
| 21:42.10 | Cairenn | seems to be |
| 21:42.23 | Cairenn | and |
| 21:42.25 | Cairenn | You can make '10' new forum topic(s). |
| 21:42.25 | Cairenn | New forum topic are accrued every 10 minute(s) up to a maximum of 10 topic(s). |
| 21:42.47 | Kirov | hmm |
| 21:43.23 | Cairenn | Iriel: so, we're going to need to carve out larger blocks of "reserved" in any one thread, given the decrease in post length allowed |
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| 21:46.45 | Kirkburn | This is awesome ... a monkey teasing some young tigers, mean little bastard :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmNrFO9xD2Q |
| 21:47.33 | Cairenn | you still can't PM people though =/ |
| 21:47.34 | Kirkburn | Mikk, the front page will be changing tomorrow :) |
| 21:47.49 | Corrodias | why can't blizzard use some decent forum software? :( |
| 21:49.30 | Kirkburn | They need to customize everything, and they don't want to use open source software |
| 21:49.53 | Kirkburn | The forums have to be ultra secure |
| 21:50.06 | Kirkburn | So you will never ever hear any information on how they work |
| 21:50.09 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 21:50.37 | Corrodias | open source must automatically mean hacked! |
| 21:51.02 | Kirkburn | Open sourc means *easier* to hack :) |
| 21:51.35 | Cairenn | d'oh, he isn't blue on the new forums (yet? we hope?) |
| 21:51.42 | Cairenn | so no stickies yet |
| 21:51.43 | Corrodias | until you, like, modify it, or something ;/ |
| 21:51.53 | Nightdew | anyone here that can answer some question about Aimed Shot in detail? |
| 21:51.57 | Iriel | Horror! |
| 21:52.11 | Kirkburn | The main thing is, Blizzard cannot risk allowing account details to get out - it would be complete disaster |
| 21:52.55 | Iriel | The forum index looks like crap in Mozilla 8-( |
| 21:52.55 | Corrodias | and their software is better at preventing this than other popular forum software is? |
| 21:53.05 | Kirkburn | The forum index crashes IE7 ... that better? ;) |
| 21:53.17 | Mikk | Kirkburn: Whoot =) |
| 21:53.18 | Kirkburn | It would be, because no-one would know how it works |
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| 21:53.27 | Corrodias | would be? |
| 21:53.32 | Kirkburn | Is? |
| 21:53.45 | Corrodias | you're the one telling the story, don't ask me |
| 21:54.06 | Kirkburn | Look, you *know* how often the open source ones gets patched |
| 21:54.08 | Iriel | I think crashing IE is good. |
| 21:54.10 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 21:54.15 | Iriel | Keeps the undesirables out |
| 21:54.39 | Mikk | Iriel: Re: hash algos. Yeah, I know of most of them. Mine is pretty much as good as it gets with Lua and low amounts of operations though. No undue bragging intended :-P |
| 21:54.45 | Gryphen | thats fair, i crash FF people |
| 21:55.05 | Gryphen | i dont mind losing 2 visitors |
| 21:55.16 | Gryphen | lol |
| 21:55.28 | Kirkburn | I'm watching the trash that is Armageddon atm. Trashy, trashy trash. |
| 21:55.37 | Corrodias | i don't mind crashing IE because i don't mind losing 0 visitors |
| 21:55.41 | Kirkburn | Nice, Gryphen :P |
| 21:55.46 | Corrodias | welcome to "low visitor count" |
| 21:55.57 | KaoS` | nice.. ie7.0 crashed? :P |
| 21:55.57 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:56.25 | Kirkburn | CHecking again |
| 21:56.29 | Gryphen | doesnt crash for me, but it hangs it up and boggs it down a lot |
| 21:56.41 | KaoS` | I would never think IE would crash |
| 21:56.42 | KaoS` | never |
| 21:56.48 | Kirkburn | THe forum list totally slows down |
| 21:56.54 | Mikk | KaoS`: HAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:56.56 | Kirkburn | The forums themselves are totally fine |
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| 21:57.17 | Mikk | We're only talking about the browser with the highest amount of exploitable buffer overruns known to man, heer |
| 21:57.24 | Gryphen | yeah its just the category list and realm list |
| 21:57.29 | Kirkburn | Actually, it seems to no longer be crashing, but it is sloow |
| 21:57.30 | Gryphen | and highest use |
| 21:57.49 | Shadowed | Takes forever to alt tab back inito the forums on IE :/ |
| 21:57.50 | Kirkburn | I'm guessing it's a js issue |
| 21:58.01 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 21:58.09 | jaxdahl | they're doing a forum restart they say |
| 21:58.29 | Kirkburn | I'm noticing it's got IE specific comments ... but they seem to be including IE7 in them |
| 21:58.56 | Kirkburn | It's got a doctype at least :) |
| 21:59.27 | Kirkburn | Not really sure why they needed to make that page so complicated though |
| 22:00.22 | Gryphen | more code and less features, thats what i say |
| 22:00.39 | Kirkburn | So much like some WoW addon devs then :P |
| 22:03.33 | Cairenn | okay, the four threads (my three faqs and iriel's 1.12) should all be stuck now |
| 22:04.55 | Kirkburn | I'm getting an error with the IP address now :/ |
| 22:05.03 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 22:05.13 | Kirkburn | ooh, no, bakc again |
| 22:05.32 | Iriel | I feel sticky! |
| 22:05.54 | Kirkburn | eww? |
| 22:07.17 | jaxdahl | my DNS is finally pointing to the new forums |
| 22:07.39 | ckknight | mine's not yet |
| 22:07.45 | ckknight | still using the ip |
| 22:09.54 | Arrowmaster | forums are broken |
| 22:10.14 | Arrowmaster | the title is currently ???wow.web.forums.generalTitle??? ???wow.web.forums.error500.title??? for me |
| 22:11.17 | Gryphen | yeah that keeps popping up every other page load for me |
| 22:11.27 | jaxdahl | as an upside |
| 22:11.31 | jaxdahl | the old forums are REALLY fast |
| 22:13.19 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:13.38 | Kirkburn | I suppose there will be a bit of slowness whilst the servers are transferred |
| 22:15.27 | jaxdahl | hmm. if you're reading the middle of a thread, there's no easy way to tell what forum you are in w/o scrolling up |
| 22:15.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | omg |
| 22:15.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just passed a warrior in some tier 3 |
| 22:15.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least 3 or 4 pieces :O |
| 22:16.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and a priest with the shoulders |
| 22:17.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | geez |
| 22:17.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | Deus vox on Laughing skull, apparently :O |
| 22:19.17 | AnduinLothar | wow. |
| 22:19.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | so what server are you on AL? |
| 22:19.44 | AnduinLothar | they moved the UPDATE_CHAT_COLOR spam to before PEW |
| 22:19.50 | AnduinLothar | fantastic |
| 22:20.06 | AnduinLothar | Kil'Jaeden |
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| 22:22.38 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Industrial (n=tom@hellsblade.xs4all.nl) |
| 22:23.57 | TS|Skrom | what's the current interface number? |
| 22:24.04 | Kirkburn | 11200 |
| 22:24.11 | TS|Skrom | that easy eh? lol |
| 22:24.15 | Mikk | yes |
| 22:24.20 | Mikk | it's been quite a while since they used impossible ones |
| 22:24.20 | Kirkburn | (1.12 + 00) |
| 22:24.25 | Kaso | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4925-1-legendary-mount-fix.html -- RAWR! |
| 22:24.28 | TS|Skrom | makes sense t me |
| 22:24.41 | Kaso | i am coder, hear my roar! |
| 22:24.43 | Kirkburn | I think 1.3 was when they got sensible |
| 22:24.54 | Kirkburn | And it stayed at 1300 for 1.4, for some reason |
| 22:25.07 | Kirkburn | Then jumped to 1500 for 1.5, of course :/ |
| 22:25.10 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 22:25.23 | TS|Skrom | whelp, I'm out for the night, happy coding |
| 22:25.46 | Mikk | Kirkburn: 10300 |
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| 22:25.56 | Cairenn | hey hey slouken :) |
| 22:26.03 | slouken | hey hey Cairenn. :) |
| 22:26.06 | ckknight | hey Mr. Louken |
| 22:26.41 | zenzelezz | a slouken :-o |
| 22:26.54 | slouken | Hey Mr. KKnight. :) |
| 22:27.03 | ckknight | not quite. |
| 22:27.07 | slouken | :) |
| 22:27.09 | ckknight | I'm just Mr. Knight |
| 22:27.13 | ckknight | K is my middle initial |
| 22:27.22 | Mikk | hey slouken. you wouldn't know the details of the server input traffic rate throttler and specifically how it behaves during the first few seconds after a login, would you? =) |
| 22:28.23 | ckknight | hehe, Mikk |
| 22:28.46 | Mikk | AL managed to break ChatThrottleLib :-( |
| 22:29.16 | AnduinLothar | :D |
| 22:29.25 | AnduinLothar | I'm good at that |
| 22:29.45 | Mikk | We're guessing that the server side traffic rate limiter algo is a bit cranky for the first couple of seconds. |
| 22:30.17 | Mikk | (Possibly because it's just had a boatload of stuff shoved down its throat from the login procedure :-)) |
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| 22:30.32 | AnduinLothar | hey.. that' snot idling |
| 22:30.39 | Gryphen | snot hehe |
| 22:31.12 | Mikk | i'll just go to bed =) |
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| 22:34.16 | Cairenn | gah, what had my old sig been? :p |
| 22:34.44 | Cairenn | anyone that is still on the old forums who can see it and let me know? |
| 22:34.45 | Kaso | Anyone fancy pimpin my addon on US forums :> |
| 22:35.32 | Kirkburn | checking ... |
| 22:35.36 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 22:35.57 | Cairenn | I just can't remember quite how I had it worded, but it was concise |
| 22:36.14 | Kirkburn | ach, now I'm on the new ones :/ |
| 22:36.32 | Kirkburn | 2nd attempt |
| 22:36.45 | Cairenn | *checks to see if there might be anything in the google cache* |
| 22:36.49 | Gryphen | http://12.129.217.203/ |
| 22:37.11 | Kirkburn | UI Dev, Hosting & Support |
| 22:37.11 | Kirkburn | www.WoWInterface.com |
| 22:37.12 | Cairenn | bless you Gryphen |
| 22:37.21 | Cairenn | and Kirkburn :) |
| 22:37.24 | Kirkburn | That didn't look like a sneeze! |
| 22:37.46 | sancus | I remember my sig! I've had it for over a year! |
| 22:37.53 | sancus | "Stop scaling damage without regard to survivability." |
| 22:37.53 | Kirkburn | Make it all bold and italic and underlined and bulleted and cool |
| 22:38.20 | Kirkburn | "Eat steroids and suffer the consequences" |
| 22:38.39 | Kirkburn | (my translation of sancus' sig :P) |
| 22:38.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:39.23 | Iriel | Oh my, that really IS green. |
| 22:39.50 | sancus | heh |
| 22:40.06 | Kirkburn | woah |
| 22:40.11 | Kirkburn | greeeeeen |
| 22:40.18 | Iriel | Peoples eyes will bleed |
| 22:40.25 | Cairenn | lime? emerald? forest? |
| 22:40.30 | Kirkburn | Excellente :P |
| 22:40.30 | Iriel | http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11961247&sid=1 |
| 22:40.35 | Kirkburn | Lime! |
| 22:40.38 | Iriel | Lime, for sure |
| 22:40.49 | Kirkburn | Lime painted with flouraescent lime paint |
| 22:40.56 | Cairenn | whoa! |
| 22:40.59 | Kirkburn | uh, might try that word again |
| 22:41.00 | Cairenn | um, yeah, green |
| 22:41.09 | Kirkburn | fluorescent |
| 22:42.11 | Iriel | Mikk: Did you monitor the traffic from the client right after login via 'external means' ? |
| 22:42.20 | Gryphen | part mikk |
| 22:42.22 | Kirkburn | Stands out much better than the pale blue stuff before |
| 22:42.26 | Kirkburn | mikk go bye bye |
| 22:42.44 | Iriel | Oh, damn it. |
| 22:42.48 | Kirkburn | mikk scare pirate, pirate run away, mikk feel guilty, mikk run away |
| 22:43.02 | Kirkburn | I didn't even get a chance to tell him he was wrong about 10300 :P |
| 22:44.28 | Iriel | 10300? |
| 22:44.44 | Kirkburn | He said the patch 1.3 UI toc was 10300 :) |
| 22:44.47 | Iriel | Oh, version numbers |
| 22:48.15 | Iriel | The extra digit didn't hit until 1.9 |
| 22:49.07 | Kirkburn | Newb Mikk forgot that ;) Btw, I know what your new sig should be, and it'a blindingly obvious :P |
| 22:49.12 | zenzelezz | wow... Helm of Domination and Sandstorm Cloak drop on the same kill, and these guys let me loot both :-o |
| 22:49.16 | Kirkburn | "It ain't easy being green" :D |
| 22:49.25 | Kirov | lol |
| 22:49.37 | Kirov | I haven't see an mvp post yet |
| 22:49.57 | Kirkburn | You probably now know what to expect ;) |
| 22:50.02 | Kirkburn | http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11961247&sid=1 |
| 22:50.04 | Iriel | If you value your eyesight, you should keep it that way |
| 22:50.13 | Iriel | Now i'm glad I pasted the 1.12 thread BEFORE the status change |
| 22:50.15 | Kirkburn | Fetch sunglasses :P |
| 22:50.21 | Kirov | aieeee! |
| 22:51.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:51.11 | wereHamster | why is searing gorge so green ? |
| 22:52.01 | Kirkburn | Awesome, fly-powered model aeroplanes - http://www.yumlum.com/fly_airplane/fly_airplane.htm |
| 22:52.13 | jaxdahl | <span class="mvp"> |
| 22:52.29 | jaxdahl | you could probably modify the CSS and make it a color that you like better |
| 22:52.39 | wereHamster | http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/sg.jpg |
| 22:52.41 | Mery | stylish ftw :) |
| 22:52.45 | Hexarobi | hehe so cruel kirk |
| 22:52.51 | Hexarobi | have u seen the hand-gliders? |
| 22:53.15 | Hexarobi | that you fly by placing your hands like a 10 inches below them, and the heat from yer hand keeps them aloft |
| 22:53.25 | Kirov | wereHamster - looks like some mipmaps aren't getting loaded |
| 22:53.35 | Kirov | green is the default "can't find that texture" texture |
| 22:53.35 | Laric | Anyone happens to know what CVar to remove the blizzard Auto Self Cast that seems to break all kinds of decursive? |
| 22:53.51 | Iriel | autoSelfCast |
| 22:53.53 | Iriel | oddly enough |
| 22:54.00 | Laric | thanks :P |
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| 22:54.26 | Kirkburn | wereHamster, what's the UI you've got? |
| 22:56.45 | wereHamster | my own |
| 22:57.02 | Kirkburn | And where can I get it? :) |
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| 22:58.24 | wereHamster | I called it 'Serenity' but then I found out there already is an addon with that name |
| 22:58.37 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 22:58.43 | wereHamster | it's in the wowace svn repo |
| 22:59.05 | Kirkburn | Shall have to take a look :) |
| 22:59.24 | wereHamster | I like my castingbar ;) |
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| 23:02.13 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:03.27 | Tem | Iriel, you around? |
| 23:03.32 | Tem | oh lol |
| 23:03.41 | Tem | Iriel, your 1.12.1 list is one bug short |
| 23:04.02 | Tem | the slider issue is also fixed for that version, iirc |
| 23:04.04 | ckknight | I have issues with battlegrounds |
| 23:04.25 | Tem | ckknight, what kind of issues? |
| 23:04.31 | ckknight | for COMBATLOG_HONORGAIN, what happens if the enemy team has two players with the same name? |
| 23:05.04 | ckknight | %s dies, honorable kill Rank: %s (Estimated honor points: %d) |
| 23:05.05 | Tem | it doesn't show the realm name? |
| 23:05.10 | ckknight | I don't know. |
| 23:05.19 | Tem | I'll be in a WSG in a moment |
| 23:05.22 | ckknight | it seems to not show the realm name |
| 23:05.23 | Tem | I can check fo you |
| 23:05.31 | ckknight | but I don't know what happens if there are two guys with the same name |
| 23:05.36 | Tem | ah |
| 23:05.39 | ckknight | wish it said the damn realm. |
| 23:05.58 | Tem | if it doesn't normally, I doubt that it would under those very rare conditions |
| 23:06.40 | Kirov | stupid emotes |
| 23:06.48 | ckknight | but then how do I tell which one did it? |
| 23:06.50 | Kirov | at least it answers why things were so fubared |
| 23:07.05 | Tem | ckknight, you don't |
| 23:07.07 | Kirov | "^%%s ..." at the start of all my strings now |
| 23:08.56 | Tem | ckknight, you say, "Sorry, dear user. This is one corner case that I'm just not going to have a headache about" |
| 23:09.28 | ckknight | except that I need to know people's realms |
| 23:09.34 | ckknight | so that I know how many times I've killed em today |
| 23:09.47 | AnduinLothar | whine to blizzard |
| 23:10.25 | AnduinLothar | or keep a list of all the people you |
| 23:10.32 | AnduinLothar | 've targeted and their realms |
| 23:10.45 | AnduinLothar | or names of current people in the bg |
| 23:10.47 | ckknight | but you don't always target them if you get honor |
| 23:11.04 | ckknight | how would I get an up-to-date list of the enemies in the bg? |
| 23:11.17 | ckknight | maybe through some scoreboard hackery... |
| 23:12.10 | Iriel | Tem: Oh, thanks. |
| 23:12.41 | Tem | np |
| 23:12.49 | AnduinLothar | or track raid join/leaves |
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| 23:13.38 | Tem | ckknight, I think you'll have to use the scoreboard |
| 23:13.48 | Tem | you're just screwed if there are two people with identical names |
| 23:14.15 | Tem | but I don't think that's going to be an occurence common enough to matter |
| 23:15.55 | Tem | well... that was a fun experience. |
| 23:16.02 | Tem | I just joined a WSG |
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| 23:16.10 | ckknight | basically, I think I may have to request the scoreboard every 15 seconds or so, since it doesn't say when an enemy joins/leaves |
| 23:16.41 | Iriel | Does the matching logic allow 2 players with the same name? |
| 23:16.49 | Iriel | Has anyone actually seen it happen? |
| 23:17.05 | Iriel | There's a small possibility they made that a non-issue. |
| 23:17.17 | Tem | what if someone joins then leaves? |
| 23:17.29 | wereHamster | why are now "BACKGROUND" textures behind the backdrop? |
| 23:17.35 | Tem | Bob-Alleria joins |
| 23:17.42 | Tem | you kill Bob 6 times |
| 23:17.43 | Tem | Bob leaves |
| 23:17.53 | Tem | Bob-Cho'gal joins |
| 23:18.11 | Tain | Damn that Bob. |
| 23:20.09 | Tain | By the way, see the new Logitech Revolution mice? |
| 23:20.13 | Tain | I gots to get me some of that. |
| 23:20.50 | wereHamster | Kirkburn, the last screenshot was missing a very important element of my UI: Marvin |
| 23:20.58 | wereHamster | http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/wh.jpg in the bottom right corner |
| 23:21.17 | Kirkburn | lol! |
| 23:21.28 | Kirkburn | awesome |
| 23:22.32 | Iriel | Hm, 'new marvin' rather than 'original marvin' |
| 23:22.43 | Tain | I'm holding out for Marvin Classic |
| 23:22.44 | Kirkburn | Same thing |
| 23:22.54 | Kirkburn | I thought so, at least |
| 23:23.16 | Kirkburn | ah, no |
| 23:33.15 | Cairenn | ACK! |
| 23:33.23 | Cairenn | No more stealth bumping! |
| 23:33.25 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.42 | Kirkburn | Your life and blood, destroyed ;) |
| 23:33.54 | Cairenn | errr, not that I ever do any such thing, that is |
| 23:34.17 | Kirkburn | s/Your/NOT your/ |
| 23:34.20 | zespri_work | Cairenn |
| 23:34.25 | Iriel | What? does it un-bump when you delete? |
| 23:34.30 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 23:34.32 | Cairenn | :( |
| 23:34.48 | Kirov | http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/images/173/marvin.jpg |
| 23:34.49 | zespri_work | I missed lots of discussion this morning, can you briefly tell me what's up with the new forums? |
| 23:35.09 | Cairenn | they're up and running |
| 23:35.12 | Kirov | zespri_work - here's the skinny, they're up, they suck as much as the old ones |
| 23:35.16 | Kirov | but they're pretty! |
| 23:35.30 | zespri_work | What are the new issues with them? |
| 23:35.30 | Kirov | and they suck differently |
| 23:35.48 | zespri_work | or rather main differences you guys ran into |
| 23:36.00 | Kirov | they have a much smaller amount of text that can be typed in to a single post |
| 23:36.07 | Cairenn | biggest complaint I have ... yeah, that'd be the one |
| 23:36.12 | Cairenn | what kirov just said |
| 23:36.26 | zespri_work | how small? 255 chars? |
| 23:36.35 | Iriel | The index is very un-pretty, each row is far too tall |
| 23:37.11 | Cairenn | well, and there's a 1-min timer between posts (to prevent spammers), but for most of us, most of the time, that isn't a problem |
| 23:37.18 | zespri_work | hat about reporting? you can no longer report? |
| 23:37.33 | Cairenn | it was just annoying for me today, trying to get the FAQs copied over |
| 23:37.43 | zespri_work | I don't see the biohazard icon |
| 23:37.46 | zespri_work | anymore |
| 23:37.57 | Cairenn | logged in? |
| 23:37.59 | Cairenn | it's there for me |
| 23:38.02 | Mery | you have to be logged in? |
| 23:38.05 | zespri_work | no |
| 23:38.09 | zespri_work | that's why |
| 23:38.13 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 23:38.25 | Cairenn | you've always had to be logged in to use it |
| 23:39.07 | Cairenn | wtf is that ascii art supposed to be? *peer* |
| 23:39.12 | zespri_work | Yeah, when you post long multi part whatever, you won;t be able to do it without somebody posting trash between your inteligent and well thought posts |
| 23:39.34 | Cairenn | zespri, yup =/ |
| 23:39.45 | zespri_work | Like if you need 10 posts faq it will take 10 minutes plenty of opportunity for other ppl to post in between |
| 23:41.14 | zespri_work | the only hope that you are not that popular and they don;t really care to post |
| 23:41.21 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:41.43 | Cairenn | well, luckily I've the ear of a couple people that can go clear the crap out of my threads for me, but not everyone is so lucky |
| 23:42.04 | zespri_work | appx how big are the new post limit? |
| 23:42.21 | Cairenn | I'm not actually sure, I didn't check it |
| 23:43.03 | Cairenn | I just know that it completely messed up my spacing on the faqs |
| 23:44.20 | wereHamster | omg KLTHM spams the addon channel all the time, even ooc |
| 23:45.40 | Iriel | Cairenn : A dragon, I think |
| 23:45.58 | Cairenn | Iriel: huh? |
| 23:46.10 | Iriel | the art |
| 23:46.17 | Cairenn | ah |
| 23:46.18 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 23:46.29 | Kirkburn | where? |
| 23:46.36 | Cairenn | sorry, completely missed the reference at first |
| 23:46.44 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10021077&sid=1 |
| 23:47.29 | Kirkburn | weeird |
| 23:47.36 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 23:47.41 | Iriel | I'm really not sure though |
| 23:47.46 | Kirkburn | Looks like someone forgot the [pre] tags |
| 23:47.48 | Iriel | it looks like crap in fixed space font too |
| 23:48.07 | AnduinLothar | wereHamster> yes it spams "t 0" |
| 23:48.07 | Cairenn | it just looked like a big blob of nothing to me :p |
| 23:48.23 | wereHamster | yep.. but why? |
| 23:48.44 | AnduinLothar | cause it's silly |
| 23:48.52 | AnduinLothar | poor design imo |
| 23:50.27 | Kirkburn | What in the bloody hell is going on with the wiki ... it looks like the main admin's account had been hacked, or something |
| 23:51.00 | Kirkburn | Fandyllic's last edits are WEIRD |
| 23:51.20 | zenzelezz | gief xmples plx |
| 23:51.34 | Kirkburn | "Reverted edit of FandylIic, changed back to last version by Fandyllic" |
| 23:51.40 | Kirkburn | AHA |
| 23:51.47 | Kirkburn | He swapped an L for an I |
| 23:52.06 | zespri_work | whar a clever spammer |
| 23:52.22 | zespri_work | is he a spammer? |
| 23:52.24 | zenzelezz | reminds me of rundii.exe |
| 23:53.39 | Kirkburn | Nah, just an ass |
| 23:54.29 | zespri_work | well an admin should disable the account then! Anyone here is an admin? =) |
| 23:54.45 | Kirkburn | The real fandyllic noticed pretty quickly :P |
| 23:54.54 | Kirkburn | Hence the "Reverted edit of FandylIic, changed back to last version by Fandyllic" |
| 23:56.46 | Kirkburn | At which point, the wiki crashes ... |
| 23:57.15 | Kirkburn | Too many fake admins, obviously |
| 23:59.05 | Kirkburn | The bluetracker is now working the new forums :D |
| 23:59.07 | Kirkburn | http://blue.cardplace.com/blue_results1.htm |
