irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20060906

`00:00.15`	`Thrae`	`Maldivia_: Ah, true`
`00:00.33`	`Thrae`	`I wonder how I check for that`
`00:00.56`	`Hatsuki`	`is there warcraft logo font? logo itself is probably handmade but is there some font that resembles the handmade one?`
`00:01.19`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: Like said, class or "WARRIOR"`
`00:04.39`	*** join/#wowi-lounge KaoS` (n=[KaoS]`@about/apple/macbookpro/KaoS)
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`00:10.32`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
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`00:15.06`	`Marmatt92`	`can somebody give me a place to get premade DART?`
`00:15.58`	`Marmatt92`	`{discord art}`
`00:17.59`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Kirkburn1 (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net)`
`00:18.25`	`Cairenn`	`ummm, on the discord site?`
`00:19.18`	`Marmatt92`	`i coulden't et any of those to work`
`00:20.09`	`Hatsuki`	`raid full flasked and MT with 16k+ hp and KT despawns=)`
`00:21.54`	`Cairenn`	`you'd be much better asking for assistance on the forums there than in this channel, to be honest`
`00:22.27`	`Cairenn`	`this channel is for mod authors, discussing their code, primarily`
`00:22.53`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Marmatt92 (n=Marmatt9@ip70-174-72-217.hr.hr.cox.net)`
`00:22.59`	`Cairenn`	`You're welcome`
`00:23.07`	`Cairenn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:24.07`	`Cairenn`	`:)`
`00:28.58`	`Cairenn`	`rofl @ today's QC`
`00:29.40`	`Qzot`	`QC?`
`00:30.07`	`Cairenn`	`Questionable Content, web comic`
`00:30.41`	`Cairenn`	`http://www.questionablecontent.net/`
`00:31.25`	`Qzot`	`Was already there. :D`
`00:31.57`	`Cairenn`	`the last panel (as is frequently the case) just makes it :)`
`00:32.11`	`Qzot`	`Must be a gal thing.`
`00:32.21`	`Cairenn`	`boggle`
`00:33.19`	`Qzot`	`And this from an RPer playing female toons with the constant refrain, "That must be a guy thing." I'll see if my wife gets it.`
`00:34.09`	`Cairenn`	`you don't get the engineer line? as I said boggle`
`00:34.35`	`Kirkburn1`	`I'm an engineer, and I've yet to go near a slide rule. I think I'm lucky =)`
`00:34.36`	`Cairenn`	`or more like, you don't find that funny?`
`00:34.39`	`Qzot`	`I understand it, sort of. I don't understand why it would be particularly funny.`
`00:35.40`	`Qzot`	`Now, the comment about "heyo" makes me curious.`
`00:35.47`	`Kirkburn1`	`Well it's not someone falling over on a banana :P`
`00:36.22`	`Qzot`	`I've rather adopted that as my chat greeting in an attempt to build a recognizable identity, and more and more I'm seeing it crop up in odd places.`
`00:37.09`	`Qzot`	`Wow. QC seems to have a Canadian shift: http://www.google.com/trends?q=questionable+content`
`00:38.26`	`Kirkburn1`	`I'm not expecting Cairenn to disagree with you on that :P`
`00:39.16`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.imaginationcubed.com/ -Great collaborative tool =)`
`00:40.42`	`Cairenn`	`cladhaire: fun`
`00:41.03`	`Kirkburn1`	`Crud, I was going to link an awesome pixel drawing, absolutely huge it was`
`00:41.12`	`Kirkburn1`	`Here is the state of it now: http://www.lovepixel.idv.tw/`
`00:41.12`	`cladhaire`	`Cairenn: Tem and I kept sitting there being like "Damnit, we need a whiteboard tool"`
`00:42.56`	`Kirkburn1`	`ooh, you mean an online tool? ooh. oh. ;)`
`00:43.10`	`Cairenn`	`smartass`
`00:44.03`	`Kirkburn1`	`:P`
`00:44.26`	`Kirkburn1`	`I would have salvaged it if that damn pixel art had survived being blogged about :/`
`00:44.51`	`cladhaire`	`its true`
`00:44.54`	`cladhaire`	`you had me excited.`
`00:45.44`	`Kirkburn1`	`Yay, Google ftw!`
`00:45.47`	`Kirkburn1`	`Cache: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:B6_Ob1xpOHQJ:www.lovepixel.idv.tw/+lovepixel&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1`
`00:46.30`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Fandyllic (n=Fandylli@63.175.18.130)`
`00:46.32`	`cladhaire`	`holy..`
`00:46.33`	`cladhaire`	`shit..`
`00:46.33`	`cladhaire`	`balls`
`00:46.57`	`Kirkburn1`	`=)`
`00:47.05`	`Fandyllic`	`ummm, does Kirkburn1 = Kirkburn?`
`00:47.08`	`cladhaire`	`wow`
`00:47.15`	`Kirkburn1`	`Hey Fandyllic, yeah`
`00:47.22`	`Fandyllic`	`Mikk, you there?`
`00:47.33`	`Cairenn`	`that's pretty impressive`
`00:47.34`	`Kirkburn`	`I frequently get disconnected by my router`
`00:47.41`	`Thrae`	`Kirkburn1 is the evil twin of Kirkburn, including the gotee`
`00:47.54`	`End`	`actually, Kirkburn is the evil one`
`00:47.54`	`Kirkburn`	`No, no, that's Kilkbuln :P`
`00:47.57`	`Fandyllic`	`cool... mirror Kirkburn`
`00:48.08`	`End`	`maybe.... nrubkrik?`
`00:48.17`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah, no Kilkbuln is the politically incorrect Kirkburn`
`00:49.01`	`Kirkburn`	`nrubkrik, now he's just alternate universe Kirkburn`
`00:49.03`	`Mikk`	`Fandyllic: heey! =)`
`00:49.03`	`Fandyllic`	`not the poriticarry incollect Kirkburn?`
`00:49.17`	`Kirkburn`	`lol`
`00:49.33`	`Kirkburn`	`Um, where were we?`
`00:49.46`	`Mikk`	`I dunno.. I was fixing deletion template categorization`
`00:49.49`	`Mikk`	`It works! =9`
`00:49.53`	`Fandyllic`	`Mikk, Kirkburn... i'm not good at IRC, but can we make a room for just the three of us?`
`00:50.00`	`Kirkburn`	`(btw, Fandyllic you missed this - just posted this before you arrive: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:B6_Ob1xpOHQJ:www.lovepixel.idv.tw/+lovepixel&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1)`
`00:50.02`	`Mikk`	`Surely. How about #wowwiki? =)`
`00:50.06`	`cladhaire`	`oh noes.`
`00:50.12`	`Fandyllic`	`I don't want to bore WoWI folks with WoWWiki admin junk`
`00:50.14`	`cladhaire`	`if you guys arne't in here, no one will talk at all.`
`00:50.19`	`cladhaire`	`Fandyllic: Please, bore us.`
`00:50.30`	`Fandyllic`	`ok... i'll /join #wowwwiki`
`00:50.33`	`Cairenn`	`Fandyllic: given the number of us that assist on the wiki ...`
`00:50.49`	`Mikk`	`(like everyone =))`
`00:50.57`	`cladhaire`	`wow you guys suck =)`
`00:50.58`	`Mikk`	`(after i tricked cairenn into putting the faq on the wiki anyway)`
`00:50.59`	`Fandyllic`	`well i guess it's not really a private thing`
`00:51.02`	`cladhaire`	`fine FINE..leave us alone.`
`00:51.07`	`Kirkburn`	`hehe`
`00:51.07`	`Mikk`	`(oops, did i say that out loud?)`
`00:51.18`	`Kirkburn`	`(no you didn't, you WROTE it, fool)`
`00:51.19`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: You know, I still can't find a good replacement to WatchDog. I know you're not really developing it much anymore, but I can't find better minimalist frames. They either give too little or too much information, or have stupid looking textures that take up too much room for their flashiness.`
`00:51.23`	`Fandyllic`	`if Kirkburn and Mikk wanna talk about it here that's ok with me`
`00:51.29`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: =)`
`00:51.31`	`Kirkburn`	`I is cool wiv it`
`00:51.32`	`Mikk`	`Kirkburn: ehm oop aeuhm... cough well`
`00:51.33`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: I will get back to work on it.`
`00:51.44`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: Clique shouldn't need much`
`00:52.02`	`Thrae`	`I was just going to start modding WatchDog instead of waiting for the next unit frame, whenever that is`
`00:52.15`	`Fandyllic`	`for any of you who visit WoWWiki, Blizzard basically sent us a threatening letter about some BC images linked to the site`
`00:52.23`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: Feel free, what specfically are you looking at?`
`00:52.40`	`Kirkburn`	`And you spelt it wrong, Fandyllic ;) I keep typing DCMA too ...`
`00:52.41`	`Mikk`	`Fandyllic: this would be the warning that Rustak put up a couple of days ago?`
`00:52.56`	`Fandyllic`	`guess someone got them from BC alpha and that pissed off Blizz`
`00:53.13`	`Fandyllic`	`anyway, you also may have notice basic externally linked images now don't work`
`00:53.48`	`Fandyllic`	`unless I misunderstand Rustak (via e-mail), this isn't a bug... he disabled it`
`00:53.51`	`Mikk`	`Aye I just documented the workaround on the quirks page`
`00:53.52`	`Mikk`	`o`
`00:53.54`	`Mikk`	`o.O`
`00:54.04`	`Kirkburn`	`o.0.o`
`00:54.06`	`Mikk`	`in that case he ought to disable the <imagelink> directive too`
`00:54.10`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: Basically, PerfectParty ;)`
`00:54.11`	`Fandyllic`	`yeah, i documented it too then removed it until i got feedback from Rustak`
`00:54.22`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: Hahaha, but what does that mean =)`
`00:54.33`	`Fandyllic`	`yeah, I told him about <imagelink> and waiting for his feedback`
`00:54.39`	`Mikk`	`mumble`
`00:54.50`	`Mikk`	`i'll delete it then`
`00:55.00`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`00:55.11`	`Kirkburn`	`It's a good thing, tbh. Linking off site images is never a good idea`
`00:55.17`	`Fandyllic`	`anyway, I think his intent was to discourage linking to external images, but probably didn't think thru it that deeply`
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`00:55.25`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
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`00:55.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Quick, guys, hide the alocohol, she's back!`
`00:55.47`	`Mikk`	`Yeah we really really shouldn't be linking to external images at all`
`00:55.55`	`Thrae`	`Well one big thing that shouldn't be too hard would be for blank lines to reset the height of WatchDog. I'd like to fit all the info I need into 1 line. Then all I need from there is "Cu" for curse, "Po" for poison, etc. instead of the actual buff textures. If I need them, I can target the unit.`
`00:55.57`	`Mikk`	`Except for like.. guild logos and crap :-P`
`00:55.58`	`Fandyllic`	`to be honest, I've been a pretty flagrant external linker... oops o.O`
`00:56.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Fandyllic, I'm thinking of a certain news page :P`
`00:57.00`	`Fandyllic`	`so since I have the two of you here... should we be hardcore about preventing external linking or just be -very- discouraging of the practice?`
`00:57.49`	`Kirkburn`	`We should make it difficult, but not impossible`
`00:57.49`	`Mikk`	`very discouraging as in "not tell people about <imagelink>"? =)`
`00:57.52`	`Gryphen`	`hardcore + wiki o.O`
`00:58.41`	`Mikk`	`Well.. hrm.. seeing as how half our banners went crap when blizzard rearranged their forums...`
`00:58.41`	`Kirkburn`	`Gryphen, those kind of wikis are thataway, round the back -->`
`00:58.56`	`Kirkburn`	`That was just bad planning =)`
`00:59.15`	`Mikk`	`Zomg! pr0nwiki.com isn't taken!`
`00:59.24`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: The thing is, I use a 24" Widescreen and play a Druid, doing a lot of healing, and I'm not Level 60 yet so I'm still 5-manning. I need my group info in the middle of my screen.`
`00:59.46`	`Thrae`	`Well, my health and mana info.`
`00:59.53`	`Kirkburn`	`Fandyllic, since you're here - I'm not sure of the use of the news pages :/`
`01:00.01`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: hrm... so what would you change, in this case?`
`01:00.43`	`Mikk`	`Fandyllic: I really don't know.... In general, we shouldn't be using external images at all. But I'm also thinking about the crap screenshots / logos that's basically fanfic that we don't give a damn about, basically.`
`01:00.48`	`Mikk`	`Those tend to be rather sizeable.`
`01:00.53`	`Mikk`	`Then again, they're not accessed very often at all.`
`01:01.31`	`Kirkburn`	`I'd rather we didn't force people to upload screenshots onto the wiki, as that would be a bit ott`
`01:02.45`	`Fandyllic`	`i tend to agree`
`01:02.46`	`Mikk`	`Then again... the wiki doesn't need screenshots of X random guild standing in front of some boss in my opinion.`
`01:03.04`	`Mikk`	`I'd like to have some way of keeping track of external images`
`01:03.05`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: The biggest thing would be to make it so you can have 1 line instead of forcing 2 lines. Remove the need for buff textures with PerfectRaid's "Cu", "Po", etc. Remvoe the need for a mana bar with "Ma" for low mana.`
`01:03.12`	`Mikk`	`That's what I'd like`
`01:03.24`	`Mikk`	`I tried putting together an {{extimage\|url}} template`
`01:03.27`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: Ahh.. understandable.`
`01:03.34`	`cladhaire`	`why not just hack PR to do what you want`
`01:03.35`	`Mikk`	`But <imagelink> didn't like having a {{{1}}} as the URL. :-(`
`01:03.35`	`Fandyllic`	`yeah, the tools for tracking images suxxor`
`01:03.35`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`01:04.10`	`Thrae`	`Yeah I was thinking about that too, I was going to look at both of 'em.`
`01:04.12`	`Fandyllic`	`yeah, extensions are more sensitive than base wiki functions`
`01:04.25`	`Mikk`	`mm. has to do with parsing order`
`01:04.29`	`Thrae`	`I didn't know how bad Pet support would be, as I still need that in 5-man and 10-man groups.`
`01:04.44`	`Kirkburn`	`On that topic, what's happened with the <dd> and <dt> :/`
`01:05.06`	`Fandyllic`	`some HTML parsing seems to have been lost in the new version, which is odd and sorta lame`
`01:05.29`	`Fandyllic`	`the <div /> thing should work since it really is more proper HTML and XHTML`
`01:05.32`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: Either way, I'll be hacking one of your addons`
`01:05.43`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: heheh`
`01:05.44`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`01:05.57`	`Kirkburn`	`I wish Rustak hadn't stuck that google advert quite where he has :/`
`01:06.21`	`Fandyllic`	`okay, so discourage external image links but not try to ban it or disable it?`
`01:06.28`	`Kirkburn`	`yeah`
`01:06.42`	`Fandyllic`	`i'll have to think of something clever for News... darn`
`01:06.49`	`Thrae`	`Discourage external image links? But where will I get my WoW-related pron!`
`01:06.59`	`Fandyllic`	`pron... lol`
`01:07.04`	`Kirkburn`	`Fandyllic, could the articles all go in a News: space?`
`01:07.12`	`Fandyllic`	`is pron like porn, but not as dirty?`
`01:07.20`	`Kirkburn`	`With a {{news}} template?`
`01:07.31`	`Thrae`	`Oh wait, wowdev.org still has some...phew!`
`01:07.53`	`Fandyllic`	`it's not the news, but the images in the bits that I link from wow.com`
`01:08.12`	`Thrae`	`pron is dirtier then porn, hence why you have to misspell it.`
`01:08.45`	`Fandyllic`	`i guess i could put a rectangular placeholder with a link to the real image... boring, but effective... I can redo the fancy caps alphabet Blizz likes to use`
`01:09.00`	`Fandyllic`	`is poln dirtier than pron?`
`01:09.11`	`Thrae`	`I say wowwiki's template should be redesigned to use Lua.`
`01:09.24`	`Fandyllic`	`eh?`
`01:09.26`	`Kirkburn`	`I say Thrae, do it yourself :P`
`01:09.37`	`Cairenn`	`Fandyllic: lol, ignore them :p`
`01:09.39`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`01:09.42`	`JoshBork1`	`hi`
`01:09.51`	`Fandyllic`	`well, it is wowi... :-)`
`01:10.01`	`Thrae`	`if ThraeIsCool print("OMG IMA FANGIRL!") else print("You are not worthy of viewing this page.") end`
`01:10.03`	`Kirkburn`	`Fandyllic, still ... er ... I don't think it's a good idea the news articles being in the normal wikispace`
`01:10.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Some of the news articles have near identical names to valid articles`
`01:10.22`	`Fandyllic`	`it was Kirkburn's idea to abscond the topic for WoWWiki stuff :-P`
`01:10.51`	`Thrae`	`Fandyllic: Were you the one that broke WoWI with your fancy templates?`
`01:10.57`	`Kirkburn`	`You give me too much credit ...`
`01:11.02`	`Thrae`	`It wa sa template...for DISASTER!`
`01:11.12`	`JoshBork1`	`lol`
`01:11.16`	`Cairenn`	`I was referring to the "change it to use lua"`
`01:11.19`	`Fandyllic`	`i did nothing! ;-)`
`01:11.24`	`Thrae`	`That would have sounded cooler if I hadn't made that typo.`
`01:11.33`	`Fandyllic`	`oops work calls... will be afk for a few min`
`01:11.33`	`Cairenn`	`Thrae: snicker`
`01:11.56`	`Qzot`	`This is supposed to be a pr0n<<<< pun-free channel.`
`01:12.06`	`Cairenn`	`hahahhahaha`
`01:12.08`	`Cairenn`	`since when?`
`01:12.25`	`Qzot`	`Since I'm not able to concentrate enough to think up puns.`
`01:12.28`	`Thrae`	`Really, the babes would have been all over me. But then I made that fatal error. The typo of September 5th, 2006 will live in infamy.`
`01:12.29`	`Cairenn`	`err, I mean, of course`
`01:12.50`	`Qzot`	`LOL.`
`01:13.14`	`Qzot`	`See the blue moon. I'm actually writing an addon.`
`01:13.14`	`Thrae`	`I bet there is a city somewhere named "Infamy". Maybe Utah. I want to live in Infamy, Utah.`
`01:13.17`	`Kirkburn`	`Infamy! Infamy! They've all got in infamy!`
`01:13.35`	`Kirkburn`	`s/got/got it/`
`01:13.52`	`Kirkburn`	`See, we all make mistakes, e'en in our greatest moments :(`
`01:13.54`	`Cairenn`	`Kirkburn, sweetie, just give it up`
`01:14.30`	`Kirkburn`	`sniffle`
`01:14.43`	`Qzot`	`I'm beginning to understand what a pain it must be for you guys that write raid mods.`
`01:14.44`	`Thrae`	`The only way to properly plan to make a mistake is to try to mistakenly plan in the first place.`
`01:15.09`	`Thrae`	`s/try to//`
`01:15.23`	`Thrae`	`s/try to //`
`01:15.57`	`Thrae`	`I misquoted myself.`
`01:16.07`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Nightdew (n=nightdew@c-69-241-14-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)`
`01:17.04`	`Qzot`	`s/you guys that write raid mods/Thrae to admit that he made a thinking mistake rather than a typing error, and so he tries to cover it by using purl's search-and-replace capability./`
`01:17.08`	`jaxdahl`	`hmm`
`01:17.12`	`jaxdahl`	`nihilum site is down`
`01:17.16`	`jaxdahl`	`death & taxes site is down`
`01:17.31`	`JoshBork1`	`it's a conspiracy!`
`01:17.35`	`Kirkburn`	`zomg, it's the apolcralypse!`
`01:18.37`	`Mikk`	`Fandyllic: Re: News.... I was thinking a rewrite of how [[News]] and [[WoWWiki:News]] works`
`01:18.38`	`JoshBork1`	`blah, i'm supposed to come up with a research topic i can take a stance on, but the only topic i'm interested in is kind of a non-issue :-(`
`01:19.02`	`Thrae`	`I don't not make thinking mistakes ever.`
`01:19.04`	`Mikk`	`Use some kind of nice template that allows me to set up an external parser script and pull the N latest news headlines out`
`01:19.28`	`Mikk`	`Put the latest [[News]] ones in the front page, and put the latest [[WoWWiki:News]] ones in the community portal.`
`01:19.42`	`Mikk`	`Kinda like how I'm putting the latest village pump talk in the community portal`
`01:19.45`	`Cairenn`	`hi Nightdew`
`01:19.54`	`Nightdew`	`good eve ma'am`
`01:20.24`	`Cairenn`	`now there, see? someone giving me the respect I'd due!`
`01:20.33`	`JoshBork1`	`~hug Cairenn`
`01:20.42`	`purl`	`ACTION hugs Cairenn`
`01:21.35`	`Nightdew`	`Are there any situations where mana cost gets temporarily altered?`
`01:22.12`	`cladhaire`	`Inner Focus`
`01:22.22`	`cladhaire`	`Clearcasting`
`01:22.24`	`JoshBork1`	`<3 inner focus`
`01:22.27`	`Nightdew`	`would it show up on the tooltop?`
`01:22.38`	`JoshBork1`	`it's so nice because you can have 0 mana and still cast the spell!`
`01:22.40`	`cladhaire`	`The mana cost wouldn't be on the tooltip`
`01:22.56`	`cladhaire`	`JoshBork1: Whats better is you can use it, and not leave the five-second rule.`
`01:23.18`	`JoshBork1`	`o.O didn't know that :-D (still a new priest)`
`01:23.22`	`Qzot`	`Can someone log onto Draka, so I can run a few tests with a party member?`
`01:23.24`	`Thrae`	`By the way, anyone have any leads on bad problems with the UI? I'm trying to make a "fix" addon.`
`01:23.40`	`Cairenn`	`boggle`
`01:23.48`	`cladhaire`	`Qzot: horde or alliance`
`01:23.49`	`Cairenn`	`Qzot: sure, gimme a couple`
`01:24.08`	`Qzot`	`Either. I'm in Coldridge Valley atm.`
`01:24.15`	`cladhaire`	`you need me there?`
`01:24.16`	`cladhaire`	`i'm in IF`
`01:24.31`	`Qzot`	`That works. I just need to be a party leader.`
`01:24.48`	`cladhaire`	`ooh`
`01:24.50`	`cladhaire`	`that's more difficult`
`01:24.52`	`cladhaire`	`let me make a new char`
`01:25.02`	`Thrae`	`So far I have - ChatFrame focus problems, Battlefield Minimap being hidden randomly, tooltip memory issues. I'm also thinking of trying to add queue'ing of Who commands so they don't just silently fail.`
`01:25.08`	`Cairenn`	`fine then, don't need me, see if I care sniffle`
`01:25.13`	`Qzot`	`No, IF is just fine.`
`01:26.49`	`Fandyllic`	`ok back... Mikk, if you can make a cool bot to pull news from the official WoW site and replace images with placeholder links to the real external images, i'm all for it... tell me what you want me to do`
`01:26.52`	`Mikk`	`Thrae: Not "bad" per se, but it's annoying that the LAST chat frame keeps focusing`
`01:27.17`	`Mikk`	`Fandyllic: Oh. Hum. I was more thinking along the lines of summarizing your [[News]] page`
`01:27.25`	`cladhaire`	`i sent you a tell`
`01:27.44`	`Fandyllic`	`oh okay, i guess I was thinking something that would allow me to be more lazy ;-)`
`01:27.59`	`Thrae`	`Mikk: Hmm? I always have ChatFrame2 or ChatFrame3 getting focus on login even though I almost never have focus on anything other then ChatFrame1`
`01:28.17`	`Thrae`	`That's one of the annoying things I wanted to fix.`
`01:28.36`	`Mikk`	`Yeah ok. That's the fix I wanted =)`
`01:28.42`	`Mikk`	`(Focus #1)`
`01:29.14`	`Mikk`	`Hmm.. changing the screenshotFormat Cvar to "jpeg" or "png" perhaps?`
`01:29.22`	`Mikk`	`If it's still "tga" that is`
`01:30.00`	`Mikk`	`I mean.. who the heck wants tga >.<`
`01:30.15`	`Thrae`	`Mikk: Only works for Macs afaik, they didn't compile those libs into WoW's engine directly, using pre-compiled functions provided by Mac OSX`
`01:30.18`	`Fandyllic`	`Kirkburn, Mikk: well think about the external image thing and i'll put any feedback from Rustak on your talk pages... you can also e-mail him for his thoughts... he's pretty good about e-mail replies`
`01:30.49`	`Fandyllic`	`i'm off... good luck all AddOn authors and your Lua struggles`
`01:30.58`	`Mikk`	`see you around =)`
`01:31.12`	`Cairenn`	`later Fandyllic, feel free to stop by any time`
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`01:31.32`	`JoshBork1`	`who wants to help me now? ^_^`
`01:33.43`	`Qzot`	`clad: You probably didn't even need to alt-f4.`
`01:33.56`	`cladhaire`	`i didn't =)`
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`01:34.26`	`Qzot`	`That is, it's probably still a raid even if you just log off.`
`01:51.55`	`Qzot`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/R, Varuul's comment about RAID_TARGET_UPDATE (which I just verified) is that arg1 is nil. Does anyone have further info?`
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`02:09.28`	`Qzot`	`Are succys the only pet that can do crowd control?`
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`02:09.44`	`Qzot`	`Heyo, Iriel.`
`02:09.45`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ`
`02:09.57`	`Iriel`	`Evening!`
`02:10.26`	`Qzot`	`See the blue moon outside?`
`02:11.53`	`Iriel`	`heh, your presence amongst us?`
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`02:12.12`	`Qzot`	`I'm actually writing lua code.`
`02:12.29`	`Cairenn`	`~congratulate Qzot`
`02:12.36`	`purl`	`ACTION congratulates Qzot on being a new owner of a $500 brick.`
`02:12.46`	`Qzot`	`Thank you, purl.`
`02:12.53`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`02:12.59`	`Iriel`	`Embrace the dark side`
`02:13.07`	`Cairenn`	`evening Iriel :)`
`02:13.10`	`Qzot`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/R, Varuul's comment about RAID_TARGET_UPDATE (which I just verified) is that arg1 is nil. Does anyone have further info?`
`02:13.18`	`Qzot`	`Are succys the only pet that can do crowd control?`
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`02:13.27`	`Qzot`	`Catch-up questions for you, Iriel.`
`02:13.46`	`Cairenn`	`mustard`
`02:13.56`	`Qzot`	`Mmm. Mustard.`
`02:13.58`	`Iriel`	`I have no idea about raid events, since I'm rarely in the things`
`02:14.01`	`Iriel`	`Ewww. mustard 8-(`
`02:14.04`	`Qzot`	`The yellow kind? Or the brown kind?`
`02:14.08`	`Cairenn`	`man, I just relish it when I can do things like that`
`02:14.18`	`Qzot`	`-.-`
`02:14.30`	`Qzot`	`I told you, no fair when I don't have cycles to spare on puns.`
`02:14.32`	`Cairenn`	`snicker`
`02:14.57`	`tyroney`	`It'll be hard topping that last one.`
`02:15.07`	`Qzot`	`Oh, gawd.`
`02:15.34`	`tyroney`	`Sorry. I have a gift for very poor humor. Which I usually try not to indulge.`
`02:15.57`	`Cairenn`	`tyroney: you were almost on a roll with that one`
`02:16.40`	`tyroney`	`And I thought meta table hooks made my head hurt.`
`02:19.35`	`Iriel`	`cladhaire: RAID_TARGET_UPDATE: The standard UI only uses it as a notification that soemthing changed abotu the raid target`
`02:19.51`	`Iriel`	`Odd.`
`02:19.58`	`Iriel`	`That was re: not cladhaire:`
`02:20.03`	`cladhaire`	`Iriel: =)`
`02:20.25`	`Qzot`	`So, you'll respond to cladhaire, and pointedly ignore me?`
`02:21.18`	`Iriel`	`It was supposed to be a reply to you`
`02:21.25`	`Qzot`	`hehe`
`02:21.41`	`Iriel`	`anyway, there's not intended to be any arg, it's just like the actionbar state event, it says "Hey, something changed"`
`02:21.43`	`Qzot`	`Prepare to be roasted and grilled for such a faux pas!`
`02:22.00`	`Qzot`	`You weenie.`
`02:22.20`	`Qzot`	`Hm. Okay. More information would have been nice.`
`02:22.27`	`Cairenn`	`lol, thought some up did you Qzot?`
`02:22.27`	`Qzot`	`But that's probably enough.`
`02:22.46`	`Qzot`	`Background process.`
`02:23.03`	`Qzot`	`Nothing really red hot, tho.`
`02:24.12`	`Qzot`	`cladhaire: thanks for the help. I'm done with the initial testing of how things work. Probably need to noodle a bit before I can start coding in earnest.`
`02:24.35`	`Iriel`	`Qzot: You have to use lua, wow doesn't support earnest`
`02:24.53`	`Qzot`	`:D`
`02:25.46`	`Qzot`	`My idea: for 5-man instances, the party leader sweeps his mouse across a group of mobs, and it auto-marks them for crowd control duties.`
`02:26.04`	`Qzot`	`But the only good UI I can think of requires sweeping twice.`
`02:26.39`	`Iriel`	`Hm, whyso?`
`02:27.30`	`Qzot`	`Because with a large group, I don't at the outset know which two to sap/sheep/whateversuccysdo...`
`02:27.54`	`Iriel`	`yeah, but can't you just mark the first 2 then move the marks as you go?`
`02:28.17`	`Qzot`	`Only as long as order of the marks is unimportant.`
`02:28.22`	`Iriel`	`True`
`02:28.26`	`Qzot`	`Maybe that's good enough for a first pass.`
`02:28.39`	`Iriel`	`if you want both significant assignment of marks AND one pass, you're screwed`
`02:29.19`	`Qzot`	`And I think order is important for picking the 1st target to kill, as well.`
`02:29.59`	`Iriel`	`But your addon count announce a key of symbol to action after the scan`
`02:30.05`	`Iriel`	`s/count/could/`
`02:30.20`	`Iriel`	`Not that that's particularly intuitive`
`02:30.25`	`Qzot`	`Yes. But I think it's much better to keep a consistent mapping of player to mark.`
`02:30.30`	`Iriel`	`I agree`
`02:31.08`	`Qzot`	`I'm even thinking of trying to always map moon to mages, etc, so that people using the addon get a consistent sense of 'their' mark.`
`02:32.11`	`Qzot`	`Somewhat separable, looks like it's trivial to have a Main Assist addon always keep a skull up for the main assist's target.`
`02:34.46`	`Qzot`	`Hmm. An alternate reversal, would be to use the PartyAims concept, assign a mark to each party member/pet, and constantly mark their targets with their icon. It should become very visible when people aren't focusing fire.`
`02:36.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`gah`
`02:36.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that same bug with the last created chat frame showing up is happening again :[`
`02:37.00`	`Mikk`	`orly?`
`02:37.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i made one for the nurfed combat log and now all of a sudden it's doing it again`
`02:37.20`	`Mikk`	`consider yourself lucky to now have had it for a while to begin with :-P`
`02:37.25`	`Mikk`	`s/to now/to not/`
`02:38.50`	`Qzot`	`Time to go home. Bye, all.`
`02:39.24`	`Iriel`	`cya`
`02:39.46`	`Cairenn`	`later Qzot`
`03:07.44`	`clad\|sleep`	`night all`
`03:07.49`	`Cairenn`	`night clad\|sleep`
`03:07.50`	`Iriel`	`night`
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`03:08.49`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Wha-heee!`
`03:09.22`	`Cairenn`	`hey GeoDaMancer`
`03:09.40`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hola, Carienn.`
`03:10.01`	`Cairenn`	`heh, no worries`
`03:10.28`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Who's the guy who does fubar? >.> I mean, I remember he hangs out here.`
`03:10.38`	`clad\|sleep`	`ckknight`
`03:10.47`	`clad\|sleep`	`he likes to ignore me, so you shoudl probably address him directly`
`03:11.04`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Thanks, clad.`
`03:11.17`	`GeoDaMancer`	`ckknight, can I bug you about action bar thing-a-ma-jigers?`
`03:11.29`	`clad\|sleep`	`If you ping him here or in #wowace he'll get back to you, as long as he isn't disconnected =0`
`03:11.31`	`clad\|sleep`	`~emulate ckknight`
`03:11.40`	`purl`	`somebody said emulate ckknight was your mom's <foo>`
`03:11.46`	`clad\|sleep`	`aaww.. that's the bad one.`
`03:11.55`	`clad\|sleep`	`He disconnects a bunch and signs back in, so it can be tough to grab him`
`03:12.07`	`clad\|sleep`	`either way, night all`
`03:12.18`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Night, Clad.`
`03:25.43`	`Cairenn`	`night Nightdew`
`03:25.49`	`Nightdew`	`gnight ma'am`
`03:25.51`	`Nightdew`	`;)`
`03:26.00`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Sleep well.`
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`03:30.26`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hrm..`
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`03:33.58`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Cairenn: When dealing with xml and the onload command, can you set -any- value in the xml to the table/object that the lua can access? I mean, can access the xml information, in the onload, or do you have to manually set it for each?`
`03:34.32`	`Iriel`	`The OnLoad has access to the initialized lua frame table, and thus all of the stuff the API lets you get at.`
`03:34.54`	`GeoDaMancer`	`So -only- what it lets you?`
`03:35.19`	`GeoDaMancer`	`It can't access any of the xml set through tags that can't be accessed through a Get---() try function, right?`
`03:35.23`	`Iriel`	`OnLoad isn't magic, it's just a bit of lua that runs at the right moment, it has no more or less access than you get elsewhere.`
`03:35.27`	`Iriel`	`Right`
`03:35.44`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Fun. Alright, thank you kindly. ^_^`
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`03:39.38`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`I have a question about SendChatMessage("msg",[ "chatType",[ "language",[ "channel"]]]);`
`03:39.56`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`Is it possible to send more than one chatType argument?`
`03:40.02`	`Iriel`	`No`
`03:40.18`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`thanks`
`03:40.18`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Only way is to send multiple messages.`
`03:40.30`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`i was afraid of that`
`03:40.39`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`im hitting the 255 limit`
`03:41.08`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Are you sending that much? o.O`
`03:41.36`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I mean, why. xD`
`03:42.08`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`well, it's a blessing of protection macro, I have the spell cast in there, then a function that checks for the buff, then i tell the target they have been bop'ed`
`03:42.48`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`it works, but i'd like to send the message to /raid as well, right now it's just a whisper`
`03:43.09`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Well, I believe raid can be sent. I don't know for sure.`
`03:43.29`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`Yeah, i just don't have enough room to send the message twice`
`03:43.56`	`GeoDaMancer`	`You're doing it in a macro?`
`03:44.01`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Oooh. Alright then. xD`
`03:44.09`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`heh, yeah`
`03:44.16`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Why not make it into an AddOn file, then just like the function into the macro?`
`03:45.15`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`'cause i'm new at this, and macros are the extent of my experience. i'll figure out addons now that i know i can't to it in a macro`
`03:46.17`	`zespri_work`	`there are addons that allow to remove 255 limit for macros`
`03:46.43`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`oh, i didn't know that`
`03:47.35`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Zespri, do you know anything about fubar of titan?`
`03:47.37`	`GeoDaMancer`	`^or^`
`03:48.03`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`where do i go to find the "names" of player buffs?`
`03:48.15`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Do you use thottbot.com?`
`03:48.21`	`zespri_work`	`GeoDaMAnser I know that they exist and I have general idea on what they do`
`03:48.43`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Shucks, I'm trying to figure out how they work.`
`03:48.57`	`Soylent-Darkspea`	`nm, found it on wowwiki`
`03:49.10`	`zespri_work`	`GeoDaManser, any specific problem you might have?`
`03:49.19`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Soylent: The "name" is the texture for the attack/action. Yeah, they give an explaination, but certain things that are listed there are incorrect.`
`03:49.44`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Mainly trying to figure out if/how they manage to use the IsUsable(actionSlot) though the addon.`
`03:50.45`	`zespri_work`	`what would they use it for?`
`03:51.09`	`GeoDaMancer`	`To find out if the action is usable or not?`
`03:53.23`	`zespri_work`	`well, afaik they are informational mods that rely on plug-in for displpaying all the kind of informations, such as coordinates, durability status, clock, etc. Why would they like to knoe if the action is usable?`
`03:53.53`	`zespri_work`	`I just need a little bit more background information on what you are doing, to be able to respond meaningfully =)`
`03:54.46`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Well, I'm trying to make a script that doesn't rely on having action bar slots filled up to check if an action is usable, mainly so that a person using my addon doesn't have to rearrange their life so to speak.`
`03:55.20`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Barring that, one that dynamically reorganizes the action bar slots it uses to maximize the space in the bar.`
`03:56.05`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I've got the dynamic reorganization down for the most part.`
`03:56.59`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Mainly my head starts to go whir whir whir when I get into it, because it has to check the number of actual values in the table and the like. Confused the heck out of me. xD`
`03:57.48`	`GeoDaMancer`	`If that makes any sense.`
`03:57.50`	`zespri_work`	`most addons require that you have an action in one of your action bar slots even if hidden. Then they just scan thru them to find the required action`
`03:58.27`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ahhh, the way I'd seen like titan described was that it added slots to your action bar, or some such thing.`
`03:58.39`	`GeoDaMancer`	`But then, it might've been a pipe dream.`
`03:59.37`	`zespri_work`	`"added slots to your acrion bar?" what that night mean? there are fixed number of available slots, like 120, you can't add anything to it`
`03:59.59`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I know, which is why I was wondering about it.`
`04:00.09`	`zespri_work`	`so with titan, where exactly is it used?`
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`04:00.34`	`GeoDaMancer`	`No idea.`
`04:00.39`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I've never used it.`
`04:00.53`	`zespri_work`	`so why do you beleive that it's used at all?`
`04:00.58`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I simply think I remember reading something of the like.`
`04:01.38`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I might've gotten that confused with extending the number of Macros, though,`
`04:01.41`	`zespri_work`	`then can you re-word, what you've been reading? Because what we are dicussing seems pretty technical, it;'s not you normaly read on an addon site`
`04:02.20`	`GeoDaMancer`	`It was some time back that I read the thing. He laughs. I'm just trying to figure out alternative ways of doing what I need to do.`
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`04:03.19`	`zespri_work`	`mirc ate my wowi-lounge window`
`04:03.25`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Welcome back, do you need me to repost what I last said?`
`04:03.32`	`zespri_work`	`yes please`
`04:03.48`	`GeoDaMancer`	`It was some time back that I read the thing. He laughs. I'm just trying to figure out alternative ways of doing what I need to do.`
`04:03.58`	`zespri_work`	`that I've seen =)`
`04:06.07`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I'm trying to emulate the action bar, but I don't want to use the actionbar. xD`
`04:06.50`	`zespri_work`	`Then I can only repeat myself:`
`04:06.51`	`zespri_work`	`>>"I'm trying to make a script that doesn't rely on having action bar slots filled up to check if an action is usable,"`
`04:06.51`	`zespri_work`	`I'm not aware of such a way`
`04:06.51`	`zespri_work`	`>>"mainly so that a person using my addon doesn't have to rearrange their life so to speak."`
`04:06.51`	`zespri_work`	`The requirement to have an action somewhere doesn't require to re-arrange`
`04:07.43`	`GeoDaMancer`	`True, unless you need to have many-many slots in the action bar.`
`04:08.59`	`zespri_work`	`there are lots of bar mods that doing this (having an actrion bar without the action bar), discord, bongos, Bib, Flexbar and many others - so I beleive there was no problems impossible to overcome`
`04:09.22`	`zespri_work`	`But not more them the maximum 120, right? =)`
`04:09.55`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Flexbar might've been the one I was thinking of.`
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`04:10.19`	`GeoDaMancer`	`But, no, not that many. But I don't want people to have to rearrange their actionbar for my addon, which they might.`
`04:10.57`	`zespri_work`	`I don't think I get it. What is the need to rearange?`
`04:11.34`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Well, the addon, as it is, takes up about 1 and 1/2 bars, so if you have anything in those 1 1/2 bars you'll have to move them.`
`04:11.36`	`zespri_work`	`They most likely use these spells anyway, and if not what is the deal with dropping one to an action bar if they don't?`
`04:12.13`	`zespri_work`	`What does the addon do? Just so I understand what we are talking about`
`04:12.31`	`Kaelten`	`gnight guys`
`04:12.35`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Er, let me explain for the start. xD The addon automates the usage of spells, or skills. Such as when you hit the button, if you can do it you'll do riposte or overpower, or whatever.`
`04:12.40`	`zespri_work`	`good night`
`04:12.53`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Nighters.`
`04:13.28`	`zespri_work`	`go on`
`04:14.11`	`GeoDaMancer`	`And it does it in the order that they're dropped onto the bar. It also checkes the for buffs on you, and debuffs on the enemy. So it has to keep the position right.`
`04:15.21`	`zespri_work`	`Actually I've been thinking about similar addon for a while lately`
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`04:15.40`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I have it working, currently. Well, I can shortly. xD`
`04:15.55`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Had it working. But I'm trying to make it purdy.`
`04:16.08`	`zespri_work`	`have you seen feralskills? Isn't it similar idea but yours more general and configurable?`
`04:16.17`	`GeoDaMancer`	`No clue.`
`04:16.28`	`zespri_work`	`you haven't then =)`
`04:16.43`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I started to write this for my warrior. It also automates things like hamstrining, and shield bashing.`
`04:17.23`	`zespri_work`	`yeah. my friend wrote the same stuff for his warrior. Without ui or anything, mosty built on macros and addon libraries`
`04:17.35`	`zespri_work`	`and I've been thinking of expanding on that`
`04:17.47`	`zespri_work`	`so it's more usable and configurable`
`04:17.53`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ah, I haven't dealt with any external libraries. xD`
`04:18.30`	`zespri_work`	`the trick is to made up a good UI =) Your idea is quite neat, when you've finished I'd be interested to look at what you've done`
`04:18.48`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Ahhh, thanks.`
`04:19.21`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I need to work on it a bit more. ~_~ But the problem is that I need to link multiple tables, and I suck at it.`
`04:21.21`	`zespri_work`	`he uses IsBuffActive library to find out if a buff is acrive`
`04:21.37`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I just wrote my own.`
`04:22.43`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I think the only thing I didn't actually write was the action bar stuff, and I went through, and editted that.`
`04:25.28`	`zespri_work`	`you can use GetSpellCooldown as well to find out if a spell cooled down`
`04:33.06`	`Kirov`	`anyone know why`
`04:33.07`	`Kirov`	`for k, v in table, 2 do`
`04:33.07`	`Kirov`	`works but`
`04:33.07`	`Kirov`	`for k, v in ipairs(table), 2 do`
`04:33.07`	`Kirov`	`doesn't?`
`04:33.23`	`Kirov`	`On an integer table`
`04:33.27`	`GeoDaMancer`	`Hrm...`
`04:33.53`	`GeoDaMancer`	`No idea.`
`04:34.04`	`Iriel`	`Well, neither are really valid are they?`
`04:35.45`	`GeoDaMancer`	`I don't think they are either.`
`04:35.59`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`man`
`04:36.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i need to figure out what's making my computer hardlock`
`04:36.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm sure it's an addon or a broken savedvariables file or something`
`04:37.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`but i've got way too many to reliably test and it seems to be pretty random`
`04:38.03`	`tyroney`	`if it was a broken saved variable file, in theory it would only lock on login/logout/reload`
`04:43.34`	`zespri_work`	`well syntactically they are both valid`
`04:50.08`	`Kirov`	`for i=1, getn(table), 2 do ?`
`04:50.42`	`zespri_work`	`what are you trying to do?`
`04:54.47`	`zespri_work`	`and you have to be aware that getn is implemented differently in lua 5.0 an lua 5.1`
`04:55.25`	`GeoDaMancer`	`How is it different?`
`04:58.06`	`zespri_work`	`hard to explain. you can find it by comparing lua manuals for 5.0 and 5.1. Basic idea is that they have uniform lenght operator # in lua 5.1 and getn become an alias for this operator. setn is deprecated, so while old getn looked at what the last setn on the table was called with the new one doesn't`
`05:07.04`	`Kirov`	`zespri - # stuff`
`05:07.43`	`Kirov`	`I'm iterating over the GetChannelList() return`
`05:09.12`	`zespri_work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:10.29`	`Kirov`	`Aye`
`05:12.15`	`zespri_work`	`and yes, for i=1, getn(table), 2 should work for you in both cases assuming that table = {GetChannelList()}`
`05:15.34`	`Kirov`	`I might just do a while loop`
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`05:20.00`	`jaxdahl`	`173659 <Kirkburn\|racing> jaxdahl, because channels are set at the end of flights`
`05:20.00`	`jaxdahl`	`173719 <Kirkburn\|racing> If you login whilst in mid-air, you aren't 'in' any area`
`05:20.00`	`jaxdahl`	`173741 <Kirkburn\|racing> That's my thinking anyway`
`05:20.12`	`jaxdahl`	`taht's still annoying when you can't talk in custom channels`
`05:20.21`	`jaxdahl`	`such as your class' channel`
`05:21.05`	`GeoDaMancer`	`There are class channels?`
`05:21.18`	`Shadowed`	`raid guild`
`05:22.00`	`jaxdahl`	`yea, let's say you're in a guild called Great Geeks`
`05:22.05`	`jaxdahl`	`and you're a paladin`
`05:22.10`	`jaxdahl`	`you might create a channel ggpally`
`05:22.16`	`Shadowed`	`so true`
`05:22.16`	`jaxdahl`	`to talk with your paladins`
`05:22.29`	`jaxdahl`	`if you log out while in flight`
`05:22.35`	`jaxdahl`	`then login, you can't talk in the channel until you land`
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`05:57.00`	`Kirov_`	`What's faster, doing`
`05:57.00`	`Kirov_`	`countdown = countdown - arg1; if countdown < 0 then`
`05:57.00`	`Kirov_`	`or`
`05:57.00`	`Kirov_`	`if GetTime() - countdown > 5 then`
`05:58.06`	`krka`	`probably the first one`
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`06:12.47`	`Shadowed`	`k, trying to make an attack table is more annoying then working out melee formula's`
`06:32.29`	`Shadowed`	`random fun fact, php doesn't support float's when doing random numbers so you have to fake a random float!`
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`06:45.01`	`Iriel`	`Night all`
`06:53.21`	`MentalPower`	`So, I'm finally moving off M$-IIS into Apache, any suggestions for FTP and SMTP servers?`
`06:53.26`	`MentalPower`	`(personal use)`
`06:54.14`	`norgs`	`ftp - why?`
`06:54.21`	`norgs`	`smtp - postfix`
`06:54.55`	`norgs`	`i'd use ssh+scp instead of ftp`
`06:55.02`	`MentalPower`	`well FTP isin't really required, the only reason I was using IIS is for WebDAV`
`06:55.13`	`MentalPower`	`(shared folder between friends)`
`06:55.55`	`ckknight`	`um, vsftpd`
`06:56.03`	`ckknight`	`i liked it when I used it`
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`07:31.05`	`wereHamster`	`kel'thuzad down?`
`07:33.11`	`wereHamster`	`c'mon.. someone has to know..`
`07:35.30`	`subbawt`	`you know how nihilium got him to 1%?`
`07:35.54`	`Hatsuki`	`nope`
`07:36.03`	`Hatsuki`	`they got him twice 1%`
`07:36.18`	`subbawt`	`well apparently they got him past that 1% and he has a phase two`
`07:36.20`	`subbawt`	`lol.`
`07:36.23`	`wereHamster`	`found it.. http://www.worldofraids.com/v2/`
`07:36.24`	`Hatsuki`	`p3 also`
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`07:36.58`	`Hatsuki`	`third real serious attempt (flasked, zanza all possible, MT had about 16k hp) KT despawned`
`07:38.20`	`wereHamster`	`16k HP is not bad.`
`07:38.38`	`Hatsuki`	`they paid 2kg for heart of hakkar=)`
`07:38.45`	`Hatsuki`	`some alliance had it`
`07:40.23`	`wereHamster`	`and did they get the rend buff?`
`07:40.23`	`Hatsuki`	`some mod said KT had 1.2k hp in second 1% attempy`
`07:40.23`	`Hatsuki`	`nah, didnt`
`07:40.31`	`wereHamster`	`with rend buff = down`
`07:40.49`	`Hatsuki`	`anyways today and this night real fast naxx clear`
`07:45.16`	`MentalPower`	`night`
`07:45.27`	`MentalPower`	`night guys`
`08:00.15`	`Kaso`	`getting the rend buff these days is near impossibile`
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`08:04.40`	`Maldivia`	`yawn`
`08:24.41`	`Corrodias`	`really?`
`08:24.53`	`Corrodias`	`i still see it occasionally >_>`
`08:26.13`	`Corrodias`	`well, i'm at level 58 + 19%. i'm really zooming through these levels, this time`
`08:26.41`	`Corrodias`	`although i've run out of quests... if the burning steppes doesn't give me some good ones, i'll run out of steam, too.`
`08:28.02`	`Corrodias`	`time for me to sleep. 'ni`
`08:30.05`	`Maldivia`	`morning :9`
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`10:20.25`	`Maldivia`	`not much action here this morning`
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`10:28.17`	`xordoquy`	`who told me about clique yesteday ?`
`10:28.31`	`xordoquy`	`(or can someone point me an url to it ?)`
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`10:32.58`	`Mikma`	`http://svn.wowace.com/files/Clique-r10278.zip`
`10:33.01`	`Maldivia`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5108`
`10:33.24`	`Maldivia`	`really not that hard to go to the addons sites, and type in clique in the search field`
`10:36.18`	`xordoquy`	`well, I went on two but they didn't knew about it`
`10:36.50`	`xordoquy`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/listuis.php?searchtext=clique&x=0&y=0`
`10:37.10`	`xordoquy`	`curse gaming also does not know about`
`10:37.26`	`Maldivia`	`for ace addons, wowinterface is usually the best place to look`
`10:37.35`	`Maldivia`	`if not directly from the ace trunk`
`10:37.42`	`xordoquy`	`ok`
`10:38.12`	`xordoquy`	`I didn't knew, I just googled for wow addons sites`
`10:40.25`	`xordoquy`	`** server can't find wowinterface.com: SERVFAIL`
`10:42.48`	`xordoquy`	`Maldivia: thanks for point me that site, looks really cool`
`10:43.15`	`Maldivia`	`xordoquy: this IRC channel is associated to WoWinterface :9`
`10:43.36`	`xordoquy`	`didn't knew`
`10:43.49`	`xordoquy`	`I though it was about designing interfaces`
`10:43.51`	`xordoquy`	`;)`
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`10:52.03`	`clad\|sleep`	`xordoquy: I only update my addons at WoWInterface, for a number of reasons, but you can always find the latest versions there`
`10:52.44`	WishMaster`	`heya`
`10:53.13`	WishMaster`	`I'm trying to find a command which places a selected spell to a actionbar slot X`
`10:53.19`	`clad\|work`	`heyas =), just stopping in before i shower and go to work =/`
`10:53.33`	WishMaster`	`have tried to search it on all morning with no luck :(`
`10:53.44`	WishMaster`	`-on`
`10:53.46`	`clad\|work`	WishMaster`: Hrm.. I'm not sure about that one, haven't played in that side of the Ui very much.
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`10:54.19`	WishMaster`	`as I have a friend who plays with my account from time to time`
`10:54.24`	WishMaster`	`and he keeps changing my buttons`
`10:55.12`	WishMaster`	`so was thinking of writing a macro to get my buttons back and visa versa`
`10:56.15`	WishMaster`	`I'm really newbie on this stuff so could use some help :)`
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`11:06.37`	`zespri`	WishMaster`, shouldn't be to hard to discover, I'd start with looking up OnDragStart/OnReceiveDrag implementation of standard Blizz UI
`11:12.54`	`zespri`	`And here we go: PickupAction, PickupContainerItem, PickupInventoryItem, PickupMacro, PickupPetAction, PickupSpell for picking up whatever you want to place on the action bar and PlaceAction to place it`
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`11:13.12`	`zespri`	`Refer to wowwiki for these function descriptions`
`11:13.29`	WishMaster`	`zespri: cheers :)`
`11:18.32`	`zespri`	`I guess this would be a problem to determine what is located on a given action button. I personally don't know a way of finding out if it is spell or an item or macro. But if you now before hand where you want to put what there should be no problem`
`11:21.13`	`zespri`	`But it is a problem if you want something like save/load current layout. save would be a bitch`
`11:22.19`	WishMaster`	`mm`
`11:23.04`	`zespri`	`I guess you could first try to scan spell book then inventory then bags comparing textures at first and then tooltips. but it's not a simple code. and doesn't sound very reliable`
`11:24.07`	`zespri`	`And when I think of this I'm not sure if it's possible to even get current texture for a given action button`
`11:24.58`	WishMaster`	`I have no idea what you just said, but it sounds hard`
`11:25.51`	WishMaster`	`I have never before done any scripting/macros, never had any need for it`
`11:26.10`	`zespri`	`good luck =)`
`11:27.01`	WishMaster`	`thx :P`
`11:27.50`	`zespri`	`actually you can get texture with GetActionTexture, but don't you listen to me, just talking to myslef =)`
`11:37.25`	WishMaster`	`wohu got it working :P`
`11:42.45`	WishMaster`	`question, is it possible to add several spells into a single line?`
`11:43.36`	WishMaster`	`/script PickupSpell(1, SpellBookFrame.bookType )`
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`11:46.22`	`zespri`	`well yes`
`11:46.35`	`zespri`	`the standard macro limit is 255 chars though`
`11:46.43`	`zespri`	`addon would seem more appropriate`
`11:46.57`	`zespri`	`but there are addons that allow for bigger macros`
`11:47.59`	`zespri`	`the following macro will get the first spell in the spellbook (normally attack) and put it to the first action button /script PickupSpell(1,"spell") PlaceAction(1) PutItemInBackpack()`
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`11:48.40`	`zespri`	`the last function call is to drop whatever action got picked up from that first action button`
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`13:09.31`	`Kirkburn1`	`Mornin'`
`13:13.38`	`Kirkburn`	`Massively extended US downtime for some realm upgrades (36 hours!): http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/17522039.htm`
`13:15.20`	`Mikma`	`36h, neat`
`13:18.33`	`Kirkburn`	`Y'know what's funny and stupid today? Sony.`
`13:19.30`	`Mikma`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=xCwXYppKuWw`
`13:19.38`	`xordoquy`	`woooo`
`13:19.44`	`Kirkburn`	`They pushed back the EU PS3 release to march, and slashed their sales estimates (I'm sooo shocked)`
`13:21.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Wow, Mikma`
`13:21.33`	`Mikma`	`hasselhoff's reaction was neat`
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`13:56.41`	`Flyoc`	`providing, rather`
`13:58.14`	`JoshBorke`	`Flyoc: BGAssist by Saien? does`
`13:58.14`	`Flyoc`	`trying SSPVP`
`13:59.21`	`Kirkburn`	`This music video is awesome :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjPAOb6fBQ`
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`15:45.04`	`cogwheel`	`purl, good morning`
`15:45.05`	`purl`	`Good morning, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!`
`15:50.01`	`JoshBorke`	`purl, welcome back.`
`15:50.02`	`purl`	`Howdy, back.!`
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`15:51.45`	`JoshBorke`	`purl, welcome Kirkburn`
`15:51.46`	`purl`	`Howdy, Kirkburn!`
`15:52.16`	`Kirkburn1`	`:P`
`15:52.47`	`cogwheel`	`purl, in a few moments, welcome Kilkbuln`
`15:52.49`	`cogwheel`	`:P`
`15:54.28`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
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`16:17.09`	`JoshBorke`	`purl, Cairenn morning`
`16:17.18`	`Cairenn`	`ugt JoshBorke`
`16:22.31`	`cogwheel`	`"ugt"? sounds like someone has a hangover...`
`16:22.46`	`Cide`	`~ugt`
`16:22.48`	`purl`	`hmm... ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html`
`16:31.58`	`TS\|Skrom`	`that's funny`
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`16:36.02`	`cogwheel`	`So, what happens if the person works the graveyard shift?`
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`16:40.05`	`Qzot`	`Buenath diath.`
`16:41.19`	`Qzot`	`Ith anyone out there lithening?`
`16:41.33`	`TS\|Skrom`	`zomg no`
`16:41.38`	`Qzot`	`Important newth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17101852&pageNo=1&sid=1#3`
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`16:44.58`	`Cairenn`	`lol, the standard "it'll be ready when it's ready"?`
`16:45.12`	`Cairenn`	`is that what you are referring to as "important news"?`
`16:45.34`	`Shadowed`	`if it's by blizzard, and it has a month in it. it's important news`
`16:46.08`	`Qzot`	`Yeth.`
`16:46.09`	`Cairenn`	`it's been said all along, by blizzard, that they are shooting for Q4`
`16:46.11`	`JoshBorke`	`it has 2 months in it!`
`16:46.16`	`JoshBorke`	`doubly important!`
`16:46.25`	`Qzot`	`It hath three monthth in it.`
`16:46.34`	`tyroney`	`Quick, someone go post another month.`
`16:46.39`	`JoshBorke`	`well, i wasn't counting the -`
`16:47.09`	`Qzot`	`He thayth that they're hoping for 4Q2006 (two thouthand thix, in cathe you mithpronounthe.)`
`16:47.37`	`Qzot`	`Hey. Don't be mean to thomeone with a thpeech impediment. That'th rude.`
`16:48.17`	`Cairenn`	`;)`
`16:48.23`	`Qzot`	`Basically saying that the retail box dates are bogus.`
`16:48.24`	`Kaso`	`woah woah MVP get green text now? GREEN?!`
`16:48.31`	`Cairenn`	`aye`
`16:48.56`	`Cairenn`	`Qzot: anyone with even a smidge of intelligence knows to ignore the retail box dates :p`
`16:49.41`	`Qzot`	`Well, I have heard it discussed in various fora (whistles and looks around, carefully avoiding catching anyones eyes) that they know the date because of the retail promises.`
`16:49.52`	`Cairenn`	`hahahhaha`
`16:50.12`	`Cairenn`	`no, they guess`
`16:50.17`	`Shadowed`	`I heard that they'll be using punchcards for all programming, slouken said so`
`16:50.35`	`Qzot`	`Cool. Must faster to swap out subroutines that way.`
`16:50.37`	`TS\|Skrom`	`zomg no wa he told me they used an abacus`
`16:50.38`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`16:50.39`	`Shadowed`	`See`
`16:50.43`	`Shadowed`	`Cairenn wont say anything, it must be true`
`16:51.20`	`Shadowed`	`hrm`
`16:51.33`	`Qzot`	`chuckle Anyone see today's QC?`
`16:51.55`	`Cairenn`	`Qzot: not yet ... hope it doesn't have any engineering jokes, otherwise I'm sure you still don't get it :p`
`16:52.05`	`Shadowed`	`0.4 +/- off when trying to do this attack table :/`
`16:52.09`	`Qzot`	`It has zit jokes.`
`16:52.13`	`Cairenn`	`ewwww`
`16:52.15`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`16:52.17`	`Shadowed`	`*0.04`
`16:52.27`	`Qzot`	`With a 12-yr-old in the house, understanding those is pretty easy.`
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`16:55.52`	`Cairenn`	`ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww`
`16:56.09`	`Qzot`	`Ah. You've read it?`
`16:56.17`	`Cairenn`	`ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww`
`16:56.28`	`Qzot`	`I take that as a yes...`
`16:56.30`	`tyroney`	`Just try not to think about it.`
`16:56.37`	`Cairenn`	`yes yes, see? proof that I am in fact female :p`
`16:56.59`	`Qzot`	`My 12yo is trying to find ways to hide her zits.`
`16:57.04`	`Shadowed`	`the pictures proved you're female`
`16:57.13`	`Shadowed`	`a long time ago :p`
`16:57.15`	`Cairenn`	`no, my reaction, you twit :p`
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`16:57.34`	`Shadowed`	`yes i know`
`16:57.41`	`Shadowed`	`you uh`
`16:57.43`	`Shadowed`	`uhhhh`
`16:57.45`	`malreth`	`RAWR!@#!`
`16:57.50`	`Shadowed`	`yeah, you RWAR@#$`
`16:57.50`	`Cairenn`	`hahahhaa Guillotine (even if you aren't here)`
`16:58.09`	`Cairenn`	`hi malreth`
`16:58.40`	`malreth`	`i missed you guys... i missed you all so much`
`16:58.53`	`Cairenn`	`awwwww`
`16:59.10`	`TS\|Skrom`	`<3 mikk`
`16:59.13`	`TS\|Skrom`	`mydebug is great`
`16:59.18`	`Cairenn`	`this is why I'm laughing at Guillotine: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5328-TasteTheNaimbow.html`
`16:59.20`	`TS\|Skrom`	`yes, I know I'm late`
`16:59.58`	`Shadowed`	`ROFL`
`17:00.00`	`Shadowed`	`nice`
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`17:00.23`	`malreth`	`i've tasted the Naimbow and it tastes gooooooood...`
`17:01.19`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`Lol, the PS3 delay is a main news story on BBC News`
`17:01.30`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`And they just showed the reaction of a boy on hearing the news :P`
`17:01.39`	`malreth`	`what was he like?`
`17:01.41`	`Mery`	`lol!`
`17:01.46`	`Shadowed`	`"ILL KILL YOU!"`
`17:01.51`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`"What?! WHAT?! Noo! They always do that ..."`
`17:02.00`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`17:02.12`	`Shadowed`	`lol`
`17:02.13`	`Mery`	`does bbc news reair their stuff every hour?`
`17:02.15`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`They probably cut off "... the bastards"`
`17:02.29`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`BBC News 24 does`
`17:02.41`	`malreth`	`my friends are lining up to get a PS3 so they can ebay it for monies`
`17:03.12`	`Qzot`	`So ... how much should I ebay my access to the closed beta for? ;)`
`17:03.15`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`If they'd interviewed me to give me the news, I wuold probably have started laughing :P`
`17:03.24`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`Nothing, just give it to me.`
`17:03.39`	`Qzot`	`Kirkburn: Oh, of course.`
`17:03.39`	`Shadowed`	`fight you for it`
`17:04.01`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`My Force powers work!`
`17:04.09`	`Qzot`	`The number is not kept where I lives.`
`17:04.14`	`Qzot`	`It's safe in my wallet. :D`
`17:04.30`	`Kirkburn\|racing`	`Surely you visit your home once in a while ... ?`
`17:04.31`	`Shadowed`	`you'll have to return eventually`
`17:04.58`	`Qzot`	`Not when there's a crowd of gnomes and trolls hanging around the driveway.`
`17:05.04`	`tyroney`	`I'm so bummed. I coulda been a contender. But then I got all sidetracked during the contest hunting down a bug in the default ui...`
`17:05.22`	`Shadowed`	`lol`
`17:05.34`	`Qzot`	`So...should I trade it for a hand of edward the odd?`
`17:05.35`	`malreth`	`http://darthside.blogspot.com/2005_05_01_darthside_archive.html`
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`17:06.06`	`Mery`	`Qzot? your beta key?`
`17:06.10`	`Qzot`	`Yeah.`
`17:06.14`	`Qzot`	`And I'm j/k.`
`17:06.19`	`Mery`	`i hope you're kidding lol`
`17:06.49`	`Qzot`	`Serious question: Anyone know of a website that keep historical info on IGE's price to buy gold?`
`17:07.08`	`Qzot`	`They've stopped buying, and I need some citable info for a paper I'm writing.`
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`17:08.16`	`Qzot`	`Mmm. Kirkburn as dinner.`
`17:11.54`	`TS\|Skrom`	`interesting..`
`17:12.04`	`TS\|Skrom`	`talent changes to spell tooltips happen after variables are loaded`
`17:12.53`	`Shadowed`	`makes sense`
`17:12.56`	`Qzot`	`I hate event-based programming.`
`17:13.11`	`Shadowed`	`why?`
`17:13.18`	`Kaelten`	`howdy howdy`
`17:13.27`	`Cairenn`	`hey Kaelten`
`17:13.31`	`Shadowed`	`not really any other way you could do this stuff without events`
`17:13.36`	`Kaelten`	`heya Cairenn :)`
`17:14.09`	`Qzot`	`The standard complication of everything. Like, I do a SetRaidTarget('target', n), and my client doesn't know that it's actually been set until the event comes back from the server.`
`17:14.30`	`Shadowed`	`I'm not really suprised`
`17:14.32`	`tyroney`	`How else in the world would it know?`
`17:14.48`	`Qzot`	`It wouldn't be so bad if I could get access to the actual mob id that has to be buried in the client code somewhere, but of course I can't.`
`17:14.51`	`tyroney`	`The server is God. It's not true unless the server says so.`
`17:14.53`	`Shadowed`	`First off, they have to tell everyone else that you set it and they also have to do checks to make sure that you can put a target on that person`
`17:15.17`	`Qzot`	`Tyroney: Well, it knows I just marked it. But you're right, it has no way of knowing that the server knows.`
`17:15.29`	`Qzot`	`Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know the reasons.`
`17:15.39`	`Qzot`	`I can still hate it and grumble about it.`
`17:15.45`	`Shadowed`	`What I find more annoying are when you can't do basic operations`
`17:15.50`	`tyroney`	`qzot: It knows you just tried to mark it.`
`17:16.02`	`Shadowed`	`for example, I can't do PickupContainerItem( x, y); PlaceContainerItem( x ); because it has to contact the server`
`17:16.12`	`Qzot`	`The client could give an indication that I've marked it but the server hasn't acknowledged it yet, as well, but that complicates things in a different way.`
`17:16.16`	`Shadowed`	`don't believe it has an event either, so you have to manually put a delay on :/`
`17:16.29`	`tyroney`	`Now there's a good point. There should be a MoveContainerItem()`
`17:17.09`	`Shadowed`	`Been working on a potion distribution mod, and I have to complicated it unneedly because I have to delay everything`
`17:17.12`	`tyroney`	`Though I'm sure there's some good reason that there isn't.`
`17:17.22`	`Shadowed`	`Split item, delay, pickup item, delay, place item, delay, repeat`
`17:17.45`	`malreth`	`i betcha there are all sorts of server checks in place for anything item related to prevent dupes`
`17:17.51`	`Qzot`	`Cairenn: I hadn't realized you were a WoW GM as well.`
`17:17.57`	`tyroney`	`Can you split items, hook or watch the icon in the bag/window, place item, rinse repeat?`
`17:18.10`	`Shadowed`	`Possibly`
`17:18.21`	`Cairenn`	`Qzot: funny, neither had I`
`17:18.31`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=chatzill@ns.motek-services.com)`
`17:18.40`	`Qzot`	`And I thought you weren't allowed to use a name that you used in other spaces.`
`17:18.41`	`Shadowed`	`malreth: Why do you need to do a server check to find out if an item can go on the cursor`
`17:18.54`	`Guillotine`	`lol, cairenn, what was the post on my addon about? the name I used for the GM?`
`17:19.06`	`Cairenn`	`yeah`
`17:19.08`	`Guillotine`	`lol`
`17:19.13`	`Guillotine`	`I just couldn't think of anything better to use`
`17:19.14`	`Cairenn`	`it amused the hell out of me`
`17:19.49`	`malreth`	`Shadowed: /shrug just a hunch. it makes sense to me, though.`
`17:19.58`	`tyroney`	`Probably something about when you move an item it has to be made untouchable for a time, and generally keeping data from crashing into each other in the process.`
`17:21.09`	`Shadowed`	`I've managed to make it so 3 items become unusual at once, had to relog to fix`
`17:21.49`	`tyroney`	`Maybe when you pick something up the item is cached and marked as [about to be deleted] in its current location, so that when you drop it it can quickly be written and the old location later cleared as time permits.`
`17:22.11`	`Shadowed`	`maybe`
`17:22.16`	`tyroney`	`Three? That takes talent.`
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`17:28.54`	`malreth`	`i don't like the new forums.... i keep losing my composed posts if I ever hit the back/forward buttons in my browser`
`17:29.21`	`malreth`	`which means if I post and for some reason it fails because of a server error, i just lost it`
`17:29.22`	`TS\|Skrom`	`Cairenn : Notepad ftw`
`17:29.35`	`Cairenn`	`blink`
`17:29.50`	`Cairenn`	`wrong tab complete, TS\|Skrom`
`17:29.52`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I'm a mind reader :P`
`17:30.19`	`malreth`	`something just exploded in the building i'm in...`
`17:30.29`	`TS\|Skrom`	`sorry I'll try to get the impersonation better next time :`
`17:30.30`	`Cairenn`	`unless you are referencing the fact that that's what I'd be like to say`
`17:30.33`	`malreth`	`hmm... perhaps it's time to evacuate`
`17:30.41`	`tyroney`	`I've started copying any post I write before I hit any buttons.`
`17:30.49`	`tyroney`	`malreth: that's... unsettling`
`17:30.54`	`TS\|Skrom`	`Yep Cairenn that's what I meant :P anytime someone mentions losing a post it's usually a comment on text editors :D`
`17:31.00`	`malreth`	`yeah... the floor shook and everything`
`17:31.02`	`Cairenn`	`ah`
`17:31.10`	`Corrodias`	`the terrorists have come for you, malreth! run!`
`17:31.15`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I was just saving you a few seconds of typing :)`
`17:31.18`	`tyroney`	`What kind of building?`
`17:31.21`	`malreth`	`i think i will...`
`17:31.27`	`Cairenn`	`I appreciate it TS\|Skrom`
`17:31.33`	`Cairenn`	`malreth: leaving sounds like a plan`
`17:31.43`	`malreth`	`this is the Jester West dormitory on the University of Texas at Austin campus. biggest dorm in the world`
`17:32.00`	`Cairenn`	`lol, oh, just the kitchen then :p`
`17:32.02`	`malreth`	`they're doing some sort of construction here right now`
`17:32.18`	`malreth`	`but it sounds more like DEstruction`
`17:32.33`	`Kirkburn\|dinner`	`Construction often involves destruction :P`
`17:32.50`	`malreth`	`well, no alarms are going off... no screaming or blood either`
`17:32.54`	`malreth`	`so i guess it's safe`
`17:32.58`	`Qzot`	`College often involves destruction :$`
`17:33.02`	`Kirkburn\|dinner`	`Only when you've tried putting up the wall the third time can you deem it safe ;)`
`17:33.04`	`Qzot`	`s/$/P/`
`17:33.12`	`TS\|Skrom`	`Qzot Instruction`
`17:33.38`	`Qzot`	`du`
`17:33.41`	`Qzot`	`mt`
`17:33.47`	`TS\|Skrom`	`lol`
`17:34.22`	`Qzot`	`"My other terminal window is a bash shell" [TM]`
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`17:42.12`	`malreth`	`yes... unleash your hate`
`17:42.27`	`Mikma`	`ok emperor`
`17:45.38`	`TS\|Skrom`	`wewt, creating infinate loops ftw`
`17:46.22`	`Qzot`	`Infinite, even.`
`17:46.26`	`TS\|Skrom`	`yeah yeah`
`17:46.31`	`Corrodias`	`endless loops~`
`17:46.42`	`Qzot`	`It's spelled "infinite", definately. :P`
`17:47.02`	`Mikma`	`clad\|work: yohoo? :)`
`17:47.05`	`Kirkburn\|dinner`	`Amazingly, a Blizzard comment on the Emerald Dream \o/ http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/17542352.htm`
`17:47.21`	`Qzot`	`Yeah. As in, "maybe we'll do something someday."`
`17:47.26`	`Kirkburn\|dinner`	`=)`
`17:47.53`	`Corrodias`	`as i understand, they did make some basic landscape for what appeared to be the emerald dream`
`17:48.24`	`Qzot`	`Bough Shadow, Seladane (sounds like an allegy med), and someplace else.`
`17:48.37`	`Corrodias`	`what? are those regions of it, or what?`
`17:48.42`	`Kirkburn`	`Corrodias, that is indeed true`
`17:48.48`	`Kirkburn`	`And it's still in the game client`
`17:48.56`	`Qzot`	`Places with green dragons, and a portal apiece.`
`17:49.08`	`Kirkburn`	`Portals in Azeroth to the ED`
`17:49.16`	`Corrodias`	`ah`
`17:49.29`	`Qzot`	`Except that currently you step through to...`
`17:49.35`	`Qzot`	`...the back side of the portal. :(`
`17:49.36`	`Corrodias`	`well, it's time for me to leave for class, -right now-. see ya!`
`17:49.40`	`Kirkburn`	`See ya`
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`17:53.15`	`malreth`	`using a map viewer, you can see the unfinished ED areas`
`17:53.24`	`Industrial`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1-M5Ze0p8`
`17:53.27`	`Industrial`	`priceless`
`17:55.25`	`malreth`	`HAHA!`
`17:56.10`	`malreth`	`props, cogwheel`
`17:56.35`	`cogwheel`	`sup ma nigga?`
`17:56.38`	`cogwheel`	`:P`
`17:57.15`	`malreth`	`fo shizz`
`17:59.43`	`malreth`	`"In general, Malreth has so far been 100% correct."`
`17:59.47`	`malreth`	`almost time for a new sig`
`17:59.50`	`malreth`	`:p`
`18:00.29`	`malreth`	`hmm... this looks even better... "Malreth has [...] been 100% correct."`
`18:03.05`	`malreth`	`from my guild forums, "In Soviet Draeni, space ship crashes you."`
`18:03.54`	`malreth`	`dunno if this has been posted here today... but there's some TBC spoilers out:`
`18:03.57`	`malreth`	`http://wowrp.com/bc/`
`18:04.08`	`Qzot`	`Industrial: 2nd ununderstood humor/humour in as many days. I'm getting too old.`
`18:04.42`	`malreth`	`oh?`
`18:04.50`	`Industrial`	`you dont know knock knock jokes? :S`
`18:04.51`	`malreth`	`ununderstood?`
`18:05.18`	`malreth`	`wanna hear a knock-knock joke, Qzot?`
`18:05.26`	`Qzot`	`Industrial: I have a 12yo daughter. I know knock knock jokes, yes.`
`18:05.37`	`Qzot`	`malreth: NO!`
`18:05.42`	`malreth`	`c'mon!`
`18:05.49`	`Qzot`	`malreth: I mean, "I'd rather not."`
`18:05.53`	`malreth`	`awwwwww!`
`18:06.00`	`Qzot`	`Okay, okay.`
`18:06.05`	`malreth`	`ok... you start.`
`18:06.11`	`Qzot`	`Ah. My favorite.`
`18:06.18`	`malreth`	`AAAAH!`
`18:06.27`	`malreth`	`betcha didn't see that coming AT ALLLLLLLL!`
`18:06.39`	`Qzot`	`As I said, "My favorite."`
`18:06.40`	`malreth`	`AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!`
`18:07.43`	`Qzot`	`./configure`
`18:07.56`	`malreth`	`http://www.wowrp.com/bc/DraeneiFemalePissed17.wav`
`18:08.04`	`Industrial`	`http://www.break.com/weeds/showtime_weeds_masturbation.html`
`18:08.10`	`Industrial`	`=P`
`18:08.34`	`malreth`	`our links are oddly related`
`18:08.35`	`Industrial`	`malreth, omigawd? :D`
`18:08.57`	`Industrial`	`no bu seriously do they get that accent? cause thats hot ill be playing one`
`18:09.17`	`Kirkburn`	`Russian!?`
`18:09.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Eastern european at least?`
`18:09.48`	`malreth`	`4 or 5 showers!`
`18:10.20`	`Cairenn`	`reminder: if a link is NSFW, please note it as such, given the number of folks that are in this channel from work`
`18:10.28`	`Industrial`	`oh right sorry`
`18:10.54`	`malreth`	`there's no confirmation on the voice clips... grain of salt, of course`
`18:12.12`	`malreth`	`but if it's true, i'm def rolling up a FOTM draenei shammy`
`18:13.04`	`Industrial`	`me2`
`18:13.07`	`Industrial`	`or pala`
`18:13.12`	`malreth`	`true`
`18:13.23`	`Qzot`	`FOTM?`
`18:13.24`	`Cairenn`	`oh, and btw? rofl`
`18:13.30`	`Industrial`	`;D`
`18:14.47`	`Qzot`	`Grain of salt, yes. Those seem a bit racier than previous.`
`18:15.30`	`Qzot`	`"I'm the girl the ESRB warned you about"?`
`18:15.36`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`18:16.11`	`Kirkburn`	`If real, I bet they're doing this for fun and will change them for release :P`
`18:16.20`	`Qzot`	`"Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again?" <- lame enough to add credibility`
`18:17.21`	`Industrial`	`oh oh this is good lol`
`18:17.22`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowrp.com/bc/DraeneiMaleFlirt03.wav`
`18:17.25`	`Industrial`	`ahhaha`
`18:17.39`	`Industrial`	`can you imagine sitting on a bench in the park?`
`18:17.43`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`18:17.50`	`Qzot`	`Lol. "I hate TB. You can't find a good burger anywhere."`
`18:18.40`	`Qzot`	`HAHAHA. "Think the expansion will make me fat?"`
`18:18.48`	`malreth`	`don't you wish your girlfriend was hot... like... me`
`18:18.51`	`Qzot`	`Yeah. I think these are pre-release.`
`18:18.55`	`Industrial`	`"What do you mean theres an octopus on my face?"`
`18:19.57`	`malreth`	`yep... much racier... 'specially the Draenei female "sexodar" one`
`18:22.08`	`Industrial`	`"yes they are real, and they can cut glass"`
`18:22.09`	`Industrial`	`o_O`
`18:23.41`	`Cairenn`	`hahahha http://www.wowrp.com/bc/DraeneiMalePissed04.wav`
`18:24.02`	`Industrial`	`"my manatap brings all the boys to the yard" oh thats good :P`
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`18:24.24`	`xordoquy`	`hi`
`18:24.25`	`Qzot`	`o.O`
`18:24.27`	`malreth`	`Industrial: oh yeah, i laughed at that one`
`18:24.30`	`Cairenn`	`hello`
`18:24.31`	`Gryphen`	`heya`
`18:24.37`	`xordoquy`	`is there someone linked to the mazzleui project around ?`
`18:24.51`	`Cairenn`	`linked in what way?`
`18:25.27`	`xordoquy`	`well, I just found that this design looks nice and I was looking for a zip to download it`
`18:25.49`	`xordoquy`	`no public release is available :( I was wondering if I could get it from someone ;)`
`18:26.02`	`Cairenn`	`from the very first post: "This is still in closed Beta. You can't download it yet. Release date unknown. - Cairenn"`
`18:26.11`	`xordoquy`	`yup`
`18:26.18`	`Cairenn`	`notice who just copied that`
`18:26.22`	`Cairenn`	`<==`
`18:26.28`	`xordoquy`	`I'm missing the point to do public announce to private release`
`18:26.32`	`xordoquy`	`oh`
`18:26.41`	`Cairenn`	`right`
`18:26.47`	`Cairenn`	`no, it's not available`
`18:26.58`	`Cairenn`	`no, you can't get a hacked version of it from anyone here`
`18:26.58`	`Cairenn`	`no`
`18:27.03`	`xordoquy`	`:(`
`18:27.22`	`Cairenn`	`anything else we can help you with?`
`18:28.07`	`xordoquy`	`well, not really`
`18:28.28`	`Cairenn`	`it'll be available when it's available /shrug`
`18:28.45`	`TS\|Skrom`	`Cog, any guesses on when that'll be?`
`18:28.50`	`TS\|Skrom`	`runs away`
`18:29.09`	`Cairenn`	`TS\|Skrom: you really do have a problem with tab complete, don't you? :p`
`18:29.18`	`TS\|Skrom`	`what does tab complete mean?`
`18:29.29`	`TS\|Skrom`	`oh neat`
`18:29.33`	`Cairenn`	`yeah`
`18:29.41`	`TS\|Skrom`	`never knew about it :)`
`18:29.42`	`cogwheel`	`ooohh... nifty...`
`18:29.46`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`18:29.52`	`cogwheel`	`:>`
`18:30.02`	`Cide`	`except...`
`18:30.20`	`TS\|Skrom`	`okay since I'm learning new things what exactly does Ping: name do?`
`18:30.28`	`TS\|Skrom`	`does it like flash up on their screen or something?`
`18:30.29`	`Cide`	`Kirkburn and Kirov are deliberately trying to make tab completion a horrible thing`
`18:30.45`	`Cairenn`	`Cide: yeah, there are a few in here that like to do that ><`
`18:30.58`	`Cide`	`typing "ping <name>" does nothing, other than highlights it in most irc clients`
`18:31.03`	`Kirov`	`cry`
`18:31.07`	`TS\|Skrom`	`ahh`
`18:31.08`	`malreth`	`ping sends an imcp packet to that person's ip to get a roundtrip time for latency and stuff`
`18:31.09`	`Cide`	`mirc also plays a sound`
`18:31.09`	`Cairenn`	`TS\|Skrom: a lot of folks have a audio notification if someone says their name`
`18:31.11`	`malreth`	`ping kirov`
`18:31.22`	`xordoquy`	`if I hide PartyMember bars, will they show if the group changes ?`
`18:31.28`	`cogwheel`	`Woot for puns..... New name for LuaSlingerMono (with TinyPad support): MonoLua (you know... like the volcano in hawaii?)`
`18:31.31`	`Cide`	`there's also the ping irc command, but that's not equal to typing it in chat`
`18:31.40`	`TS\|Skrom`	`cogwheel heh`
`18:31.43`	`Cairenn`	`xordoquy: in reference what?`
`18:31.57`	`Cairenn`	`cogwheel: groan`
`18:32.43`	`malreth`	`you know what I want?`
`18:32.50`	`malreth`	`a lua console window`
`18:33.04`	`malreth`	`just like what you get when you run lua from the command line`
`18:33.21`	`Mikk`	`yeah me too`
`18:33.27`	`malreth`	`i'm tired of having to type /script or /dump to test ideas`
`18:33.28`	`Mikk`	`with "print" working`
`18:33.37`	`malreth`	`Mikk: yes!`
`18:34.01`	`Mikk`	`except it's somewhat bothersome to type functions into something like that`
`18:34.15`	`malreth`	`a separate window so output doesn't get scrolled away by chat`
`18:34.26`	`Mikk`	`mm`
`18:34.26`	`cogwheel`	`I use LuaSlinger for things like that.`
`18:34.35`	`cogwheel`	`and I have a print function which outputs to the chat window`
`18:34.51`	`Mikk`	`chatwindow ftsux :-P`
`18:34.59`	`cogwheel`	`granted :P`
`18:35.00`	`malreth`	`agreed... it's no good`
`18:35.10`	`Mikk`	`i want something that outputs tables like hyperlinks that i can click and get a visual display of =)`
`18:35.29`	`Mikk`	`(and that's not even hard to do, really)`
`18:35.30`	`Cide`	`I want an IDE in wow!`
`18:35.40`	`Mikk`	`I'm working on one. Chill :-P`
`18:35.45`	`Cide`	`well hurry up god damnit!`
`18:35.47`	`Mikk`	`Well.. at least the graphic side of it ;)`
`18:36.13`	`Cide`	`I also want to buy iriel's visual table dump!`
`18:36.38`	`Mikk`	`yeah, having that for clicking on table links would be nummy`
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`18:45.48`	`TS\|Skrom`	`Mikk I just downloaded myDebug, thanks for that!`
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`18:46.52`	`malreth`	`someone's playing FF7 music here on the piano...`
`18:49.04`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`dahm i lsot connection to my server :(`
`18:49.20`	`Cairenn`	`lol Kirk`
`18:49.46`	`Qzot`	`Mikk: Is it ready yet? Where can I download it?`
`18:49.49`	`Kirkburn`	`haha`
`18:50.07`	`Kirkov`	`or, better yet`
`18:50.21`	`Kirkbum`	`That should confuse some people`
`18:50.30`	`Kirkburn`	`Heh`
`18:50.45`	`Qzot`	`Cairenn: Now that xoroquy is gone, where can I download mazzleui?`
`18:50.45`	`Kirkburn`	`Or the alternative, Kickbum`
`18:50.56`	`Cairenn`	`Qzot: /smack`
`18:50.59`	`Qzot`	`hehe`
`18:51.28`	`Kirov`	`so`
`18:51.48`	`tyroney`	`What's going on in here?`
`18:51.55`	`malreth`	`shenanigans`
`18:51.55`	`TS\|Skrom`	`buffoonery`
`18:52.03`	`malreth`	`tomfoolery`
`18:52.08`	`Cairenn`	`tomfo... lol`
`18:52.12`	`malreth`	`goings-ons`
`18:52.13`	`tyroney`	`Maybe we should all prepend our names with the same five-letter sequence.`
`18:52.25`	`tyroney`	`Is prepend a word?`
`18:52.33`	`Qzot`	`Yes.`
`18:52.44`	`Kirov`	`cairennfoolery?`
`18:52.49`	`Kirkburn`	`... in Fantasy Land =)`
`18:53.11`	`kirkburn`	`haha!`
`18:53.16`	`kirkburn`	`hijack successful!`
`18:53.24`	`Kirov`	`heh`
`18:53.28`	`Kirovkburn`	`HAH`
`18:53.28`	`Cairenn`	`oh lord`
`18:53.47`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm too evil :P`
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`18:54.09`	`Kirkburn`	`Why hello there malreth :P`
`18:54.18`	`malreth`	`:p`
`18:55.00`	`TS\|Skrom`	`how do you do a reverse table sort?`
`18:55.29`	`tyroney`	`The opposite way you'd do a regular one?`
`18:55.32`	`malreth`	`in-place?`
`18:55.36`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I mean is there a built in?`
`18:55.42`	`Kirov`	`function(a, b) return a > b end`
`18:55.43`	`Kirov`	`?`
`18:55.49`	`TS\|Skrom`	`okay so have to do a function`
`18:56.20`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`table.sort can have parameter on how to sort the table`
`18:57.35`	`Kirov`	`yes, it can have a function for what to use to sort it`
`18:58.46`	`TS\|Skrom`	`wheee it works again haha`
`18:58.48`	`Qzot`	`If you think using the built-in sort would be substantially faster than supplying a comparator, you could use the natural sort order and then reverse it.`
`18:59.23`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I found out I still had a getn in my code that I had forgotten to change to a in pairs()`
`18:59.32`	`malreth`	`for i=getn(t), 1, -1 do --[[ etc ]] end`
`18:59.33`	`Qzot`	`I actually don't know if the Lua implementation for sort just supplies a default comparator if you don't supply one.`
`18:59.53`	`TS\|Skrom`	`had to completely rearrange my table data since previously i was using for getn(table), -1,1 for my loop`
`19:00.29`	`malreth`	`nothing wrong with that... why change?`
`19:00.32`	`TS\|Skrom`	`5.1 doesn't have getn`
`19:00.35`	`malreth`	`use the length operator`
`19:00.42`	`malreth`	`#t == getn(t)`
`19:01.18`	`TS\|Skrom`	`but... 5.1 doesn't have getn`
`19:01.50`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`but still #t is therepalcement for getn`
`19:02.09`	`TS\|Skrom`	`oh?`
`19:02.14`	`malreth`	`yep`
`19:02.27`	`malreth`	`it's faster, too. compiles to a LEN bytecode instead of a function call`
`19:02.40`	`TS\|Skrom`	`neat, but the other way works too lol so I will prolly leave it now`
`19:02.45`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`hm cool but whne will 5.1 work in WOW ?`
`19:02.56`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`isnt that unril the buring crusade ?`
`19:02.58`	`TS\|Skrom`	`with the expansion, but in pairs() works now`
`19:03.10`	`malreth`	`if you're iterating through an ordered array, use ipairs() instead of pairs()`
`19:03.11`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`yeh so why wurrie abiut it right now`
`19:03.34`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`when expansion comes out there so many new things u got to recode yourr addons anyway :p`
`19:03.35`	`TS\|Skrom`	`... so I don't have to change it later?`
`19:03.41`	`TS\|Skrom`	`not likely`
`19:04.04`	`TS\|Skrom`	`getn to in pairs() is the only think I will have to worry about, and if I get it done now, no worries`
`19:04.05`	`Kirkburn`	`This article confuses me: http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Tri-City_Assault`
`19:04.48`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`its to big for me`
`19:05.02`	`Kirkburn`	`Something weird has happened`
`19:05.09`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i think blizzart banned..`
`19:05.14`	`Kirkburn`	`In the code it's in paragraphs`
`19:05.23`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i cant even vieuw the "news" on the loaderanymore`
`19:08.11`	`Industrial`	`EU isnt offline yet right?`
`19:08.20`	`Kaso`	`German Servers are :<`
`19:08.27`	`Kaso`	`Well frankfurt 2`
`19:08.38`	`Industrial`	`who plays there nobody :>`
`19:08.47`	`Kirkburn`	`Yup, the news server is down`
`19:08.59`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i play on england and its offline aslwell..`
`19:09.15`	`Kirkburn`	`"Authenticating"`
`19:09.38`	`Kaso`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u The servers are either in Paris, Frankfert of Hamburg for EU`
`19:09.45`	`Kirkburn`	`Forums are down, website is down`
`19:09.46`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i wonder wut excuse blizzart comes up whitthis time..`
`19:09.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Oh, no, website is just slow`
`19:10.01`	`Industrial`	`why are the 2 hours too early?`
`19:10.04`	`Industrial`	`they*`
`19:10.08`	`Kirkburn`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u, give them some credit. This was maintenance day y'know`
`19:10.17`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`oO`
`19:10.22`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`isnt that wwednessday..`
`19:10.26`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`morning`
`19:10.34`	`Industrial`	`11pm 5 am`
`19:10.41`	`Industrial`	`wensday to thursday`
`19:10.44`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`wow.. oke`
`19:10.53`	`Industrial`	`but its 9pm :<`
`19:11.05`	`Industrial`	`oh wait its online its just hella slow`
`19:11.10`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`so lets all go code ui then :p`
`19:11.19`	`Industrial`	`I was until I needed to test :>`
`19:11.29`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`that sux indeed then`
`19:11.37`	`Industrial`	`was givin idChat2_ChannelNames configurability \o/`
`19:11.42`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i still need ot start my BagSlotType "[`
`19:12.36`	`Kirkburn`	`Industrial, I'm confused. You just said "wednesday to thursday"`
`19:12.55`	`Industrial`	`isnt it wednesday?`
`19:13.03`	`Industrial`	`lol I got disconnected before I could connect`
`19:13.30`	`Kirkburn`	`I still don't understand, maintenance is on wednesday monring normally - so what's this about thursday?`
`19:13.41`	`Industrial`	`really? :S`
`19:14.05`	`Kirkburn`	`Yes, the day after US maintenance`
`19:14.18`	`Industrial`	`ok then I said nothing`
`19:14.28`	`Kirkburn`	`It's always been like that, silly :P`
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`19:14.44`	`Industrial`	`ill instead whine about its speed`
`19:14.49`	`Industrial`	`S L O W :\`
`19:14.59`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`19:15.07`	`Kirkburn`	`The US gets a 36 hr maintenance soon :P`
`19:15.25`	`Kirkburn`	`Very soon in fact`
`19:15.26`	`Kirkburn`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/17522039.htm`
`19:15.34`	`Kirkburn`	`(not all servers!)`
`19:15.59`	`JoshBorke`	`that's ok, i never play anymore :-)`
`19:16.04`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`was kinda wut i meaned maintaice should have ben this moning`
`19:16.35`	`Kirkburn`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u, you're doing it again with the killing of english :P Yes, maintenance would have been this morning`
`19:16.49`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`oops yeh sorry`
`19:16.58`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`forgot i had to type normal here :p`
`19:17.01`	`Kirkburn`	`But since they're doing upgrades each time, it's can have consequences after it's finished`
`19:17.08`	`Kirkburn`	`s/it's/it/`
`19:17.47`	`Kirkburn`	`Unfortunately software and hardware does that type of thing, springing up problems after you update it :/`
`19:18.51`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`soon we all have lost our data and got to start at level 1 again`
`19:19.32`	`TS\|Skrom`	`that means I'd be among the highest level on my server for like 2-3 minutes tops!`
`19:20.17`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`lol make that 1 min`
`19:20.36`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I was counting login time too !`
`19:20.42`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`ah oke`
`19:20.51`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`well im among the loer of my server :p`
`19:21.06`	`TS\|Skrom`	`same.. my highest is only 53`
`19:21.11`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`level 53 but only on 1 char (main char) ( never had a level 60)`
`19:21.35`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`dahm we have something in commen then`
`19:22.04`	`TS\|Skrom`	`I've not played him in about a month too :(`
`19:22.24`	`TS\|Skrom`	`oo that reminds me, better log in real quick and empty his mailbox ><`
`19:24.38`	`TS\|Skrom`	`haha good timing, 1 day left on everything in the mailbox`
`19:29.33`	`cogwheel`	`Cairenn or Dolby-wowi: Wolud it be possible to have "Replace with" automatically be selected when you click the Browse button on the upload page?`
`19:30.01`	`Shadowed`	`^`
`19:32.50`	`Cairenn`	`but what if you aren't actually replacing the zip file?`
`19:34.06`	`Shadowed`	`could make it auto check if you add a file`
`19:37.24`	`cogwheel`	`Then you wouldn't click Browse...`
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`19:37.48`	`Shadowed`	`Click browse, select file, click "okay", auto check`
`19:37.50`	`cogwheel`	`The browse button is specifically for replacing the file...`
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`19:37.58`	`Shadowed`	`hey Iriel`
`19:38.13`	`Iriel`	`Hola`
`19:38.22`	`Cairenn`	`true enough`
`19:39.41`	`wereHamster`	`morning`
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`19:52.46`	`TS\|Skrom`	`loverly. one of our buildings just lost power so 1/2 of our network is down`
`19:53.02`	`Shadowed`	`I would`
`19:53.02`	`cogwheel`	`I guess that means you'll be AFK soon :P`
`19:53.08`	`TS\|Skrom`	`nope I'm good`
`19:53.17`	`TS\|Skrom`	`already made some calls now I just sit and wait`
`19:53.30`	`Shadowed`	`Except i'd spend an hour doing it, then i'd find another page needing updating, and then i'd repeat that for 5 hours until it's raid time and i got nothing i wanted to done :p`
`19:55.02`	`Mikk`	`Hehe`
`19:55.19`	`Mikk`	`That's just a byproduct of how wikis work. Don't let that stop you =)`
`19:56.13`	`TS\|Skrom`	`--Need More Rage--`
`19:56.57`	`Shadowed`	`Two-handed weapons: 3.3`
`19:56.58`	`Shadowed`	`Daggers: 1.7`
`19:56.58`	`Shadowed`	`All other one-handed weapons: 2.4`
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`20:05.27`	`TS\|Skrom`	`You are a feisty little gnome`
`20:05.45`	`cogwheel`	`Wait 'till i get that "Evil Twin" debuff.... /snarl`
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`20:07.24`	`cogwheel`	`When is blizz gonna invest in some new hampsters?`
`20:07.54`	`JoshBorke`	`ok, who is a macro genius?`
`20:08.02`	`cogwheel`	`OOohh!! me me me!!!`
`20:08.05`	`cogwheel`	`:D`
`20:08.08`	`cogwheel`	`XD happy!!!`
`20:08.35`	`JoshBorke`	`i've got a friend in my guild who wants my help`
`20:08.39`	`JoshBorke`	`i'll pastebin what he wants`
`20:08.46`	`tyroney`	`I'm an eccentric macro tinkerer.`
`20:09.02`	`JoshBorke`	`http://wowi.pastecode.com/4298`
`20:09.27`	`cogwheel`	`First, get the addon IsBuffActive`
`20:09.28`	`JoshBorke`	`he already has a macro for casting moonfire but wants to add a faeirie fire to it`
`20:09.37`	`JoshBorke`	`mmm, that'll make it so much easier on him`
`20:11.33`	`Cairenn`	`cogwheel: yes it can be done, very very very (how many very's where there again?) low priority`
`20:11.49`	`cogwheel`	`Hehe... understood :)`
`20:12.11`	`Cairenn`	`he's swamped these days, way too much going on`
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`20:13.58`	`JoshBorke`	`oh good, i can do it in 190`
`20:14.05`	`JoshBorke`	`with IsBuffActive`
`20:14.13`	`cogwheel`	`JoshBorke, I'm pretty sure there's no way to check for the rank of a debuff on a target...`
`20:14.35`	`JoshBorke`	`hm, good point`
`20:14.58`	`cogwheel`	`Also, as an FYI: there's no need to nest the ifs...`
`20:15.10`	`JoshBorke`	`it's what my guildie asked of me, not something i wrote :-)`
`20:15.38`	`Mikk`	`Now do some programming in AWK also, where you don't need any operators to concatenate strings`
`20:15.56`	`Shadowed`	`lol`
`20:16.00`	`cogwheel`	`this should work, but doesn't check for rank:`
`20:16.02`	`JoshBorke`	`i do nothing more with awk than splitting strings`
`20:16.04`	`Shadowed`	`i keep doing ".." instead of "." and then/end`
`20:16.06`	`cogwheel`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:16.08`	`Qzot`	`I have some snoball code that needs to be ported to awk...`
`20:16.15`	`JoshBorke`	`impressive`
`20:16.34`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`20:16.55`	`Shadowed`	`nice`
`20:17.25`	`Shadowed`	`hrm`
`20:17.33`	`Qzot`	`cogwheel: Where's the rank 9?`
`20:17.40`	`Shadowed`	`wonder if it's safe to say rand( min range, max range ); for figuring out damage`
`20:18.08`	`cogwheel`	`Qzot, see my previous two comments...`
`20:18.18`	`cogwheel`	`regarding the rank :P`
`20:18.27`	`JoshBorke`	`ah, yes, but he'd rather cast rank 9 if there is a dot`
`20:18.33`	`JoshBorke`	`regardless of the ranking i'd say`
`20:18.38`	`cogwheel`	`Ok... one sec`
`20:18.46`	`Qzot`	`Ah. Just assume if there's a DOT, it's rank 10, then. Rank 10 if no dot, rank 9 otherwise.`
`20:19.00`	`JoshBorke`	`yep`
`20:19.40`	`Qzot`	`Neither his mana nor his health will last long enough for a rank 9 dot to kick in, anyway.`
`20:20.12`	`cogwheel`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:20.13`	`Qzot`	`The MFs like it that way.`
`20:20.24`	`Qzot`	`s/MF/Moonfire/`
`20:21.07`	`cogwheel`	`And this is, of course, assuming that that's how those spells are supposed to be written...`
`20:21.22`	`Qzot`	`I think you elide the space, but I always have to check.`
`20:26.55`	`Beladona`	`ugh`
`20:29.33`	`Qzot`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:29.55`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`oO`
`20:29.58`	`Qzot`	`Add a space before the ( if it's needed.`
`20:31.02`	`cogwheel`	`That'll work too... though there's no reason (besides personal preference) in changing the " to ' ;)`
`20:31.26`	`Qzot`	`In complete agreement. I was retyping it, is all.`
`20:31.39`	`Qzot`	`No comment intended in that change.`
`20:32.14`	`Qzot`	`Same for the ';'.`
`20:32.57`	`Qzot`	`??`
`20:33.24`	`Qzot`	`I personally prefer the semicolons, esp in macros, for the clarity.`
`20:33.46`	`cogwheel`	`Except when you are cramped for space and every character counts ;)`
`20:33.51`	`kergoth`	`i dont see the point. lua doesnt need it, and it doesnt make it any clearer if you know lua, especially if you use syntax highlighting`
`20:34.04`	`cogwheel`	`syntax highlighting 4tw!`
`20:34.07`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`20:34.31`	`Qzot`	`Hmm. Is there an addon that provides syntax highlighting for WoW macros?`
`20:34.35`	`kergoth`	`yes`
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`20:34.40`	`Qzot`	`Cool.`
`20:34.48`	`kergoth`	`forallindentsandpurposes adds indentation and syntax highlighting to tinypad an d such`
`20:34.50`	`cogwheel`	`ForAllIndentsAndPurposes`
`20:34.51`	`kergoth`	`good stuff`
`20:35.02`	`Qzot`	`tinypad?`
`20:35.18`	`Qzot`	`I didn't realized tinypad hooked into the macro windows.`
`20:35.25`	`cogwheel`	`Yep. I even wrote an addon for LuaSlinger and TinyPad to give them a fixed width font`
`20:35.37`	`cogwheel`	`Qzot, it doesn't, but you can write the macro in TP and copy and paste it into the macro window`
`20:35.45`	zinor`	`http://www.cursebeta.com/accounts/register/ - comments guys?`
`20:35.50`	zinor`	`basic form design for the new site`
`20:36.31`	`cogwheel`	`Much sleeker looking, though the right-hand column seems a bit large`
`20:36.40`	`Qzot`	`Where will the IGE logo go?`
`20:36.47`	zinor`	`IGE?`
`20:36.59`	`cogwheel`	`~lart qzot`
`20:37.01`	zinor`	`we're like the only site not owned by ige`
`20:37.04`	zinor`	`try harder`
`20:37.10`	`Cairenn`	`don't even start`
`20:37.11`	`Qzot`	`I know.`
`20:37.14`	`Qzot`	`Hehe.`
`20:37.15`	`kergoth`	`cogwheel: ooh, wheres that addon? monospaced fonts ftw`
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`20:37.31`	`cogwheel`	`http://cogwheel.wowinterface.com has all my addons`
`20:37.38`	`kergoth`	`mmk thanks`
`20:37.46`	`kergoth`	`buyemall rocks`
`20:37.54`	`zinor`	`cogwheel, that was mostly so the ad could fit w/ the design, it will be collapsed on pages that need it, like the image gallery. I think it will help with organizing information on most pages though`
`20:38.45`	`cogwheel`	`Is there any way to search the descriptions of addons instead of just the name?`
`20:39.54`	`Cide`	`the right column does seem way too wide, honestly`
`20:40.31`	`zinor`	`hrm`
`20:42.24`	`gnorlish`	`reminds me of a counter-strike site from back in the day`
`20:42.27`	`Shadowed`	`hrm`
`20:42.29`	`gnorlish`	`i can't even remember the address`
`20:42.49`	`Shadowed`	`anyone know if "increasese melee damage by X" means the max range is increased, or if it's added after the damage?`
`20:43.30`	`Qzot`	`I doubt it's related to range.`
`20:43.49`	`Shadowed`	`Yeah, i'm guessing it's just added after it figures out the damage amount, but wasn't sure`
`20:44.20`	`Qzot`	`I wouldn't even begin to guess at Blizz' formulae, but range it's almost certainly not.`
`20:45.01`	`Cide`	`it affects the range, I believe`
`20:45.18`	`Shadowed`	`both min/max, or just max?`
`20:45.28`	`Qzot`	`-.- Of course I have to be wrong...`
`20:45.29`	`Cide`	`both, I'm pretty sure`
`20:45.37`	`Shadowed`	`kk thanks`
`20:45.53`	`Qzot`	`Wait. By "range" are you meaning physical distance?`
`20:45.55`	`Cide`	`reason I think so is because we had a couple of people saying their damage range was off by the amount the items add`
`20:46.09`	`Cide`	`"range" meaning damage range, for example 89-137`
`20:46.10`	`Qzot`	`Err...virtual distance?`
`20:46.16`	`Shadowed`	`hm`
`20:46.21`	`Qzot`	`Ah. I completely misunderstood what he was asking.`
`20:46.48`	`Qzot`	`I was thinking he was asking whether it meant you could attack from 8 yards rather than 5. :P`
`20:47.28`	`Qzot`	`Hmm. 5.1 has maxn, rather than getn.`
`20:47.38`	`Qzot`	`Requires a complete traversal, tho.`
`20:49.23`	`cogwheel`	`qzot: #t == getn(t)`
`20:49.59`	`Qzot`	`Yes. maxn can actually be better in a few, limited cases. Such as when intermediate values can be il.`
`20:50.03`	`Qzot`	`*nil.`
`20:50.40`	`Qzot`	`Manual also explains math.ldexp`
`20:54.39`	`cogwheel`	`Actually, I think maxn is for when you have non-integer indexes... based on my testing, #{1,nil,1} == table.maxn{1,nil,1}`
`20:55.18`	`Qzot`	`o.O`
`20:55.42`	`Qzot`	`Sec. Let me read definition of #`
`20:57.04`	`malreth`	`hmm... i never realized how much optimization the lua compiler does`
`20:57.29`	`Qzot`	`cogwheel: # is dangerously undefined for #{1,nil,1}`
`20:57.36`	`cogwheel`	`hmm`
`20:57.51`	`malreth`	`i kept feeding return 5%4 into luac to see what the bytecode was and it kept precomputing the output and just returning that`
`20:57.54`	`Qzot`	`maxn makes a guarantee.`
`20:58.00`	`Qzot`	`# is probably more efficient.`
`20:58.41`	`Qzot`	`From the manual:`
`20:58.52`	`cogwheel`	`malreth, hopefully there isn't a compiler in existence that doesn't precompute expressions with literal values ;)`
`20:59.02`	`Qzot`	`If the array has "holes" (that is, nil values between other non-nil values), then #t may be any of the indices that directly precedes a nil value (that is, it may consider any such nil value as the end of the array).`
`20:59.03`	`malreth`	`well, you never know...`
`20:59.21`	`cogwheel`	`qzot, gotcha`
`20:59.27`	`Qzot`	`Ouch.`
`20:59.49`	`Qzot`	`Well, # just has the same problems getn in 5.0 has.`
`20:59.50`	`Cide`	`Qzot: well, it's only meant to be used with integer-indiced tables, pretty much`
`21:00.13`	`Qzot`	`I wish there had been one which counted all indices.`
`21:06.11`	`ckknight_`	`h0w much traffic does WoWI have? or, how many users would WoWI have?`
`21:08.58`	`ckknight`	`Cairenn, ping`
`21:09.02`	`ckknight`	`or Dolby-wowi`
`21:09.17`	`MentalPower_`	`Qzot: you can use table.maxn()`
`21:09.47`	`Qzot`	`Exactly.`
`21:09.51`	`Cairenn`	`ckknight: ?`
`21:09.56`	`Qzot`	`That's what I was saying.`
`21:10.03`	`ckknight`	`Cairenn, h0w much traffic does WoWI have? or, how many users would WoWI have?`
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`21:10.50`	`Cairenn`	`WoWInterface Statistics Threads: 5,825, Posts: 26,868, Members: 36,754 Welcome to our newest member, zutroy`
`21:10.58`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`21:11.14`	`Cairenn`	`that's registered users, but you don't have to be registered to download`
`21:11.19`	`ckknight`	`right`
`21:11.21`	`MentalPower`	`malreth: thats only in the Lua 5.1 compiler afaik`
`21:11.25`	`Cairenn`	`why?`
`21:11.27`	`ckknight`	`and I kinda want to know the total figure`
`21:11.29`	`ckknight`	`to boast`
`21:11.38`	`Cairenn`	`?`
`21:11.50`	`malreth`	`MentalPower: just checked. the 5.0 luac does the same thing.`
`21:11.56`	`ckknight`	`I'm writing a letter to a comp sci professor, and I want to say how popular WoWI is, and thus how popular FuBar is`
`21:11.57`	`MentalPower`	`interesting`
`21:11.58`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`21:12.07`	`Cairenn`	`ah`
`21:12.08`	`Qzot`	`ckknight: How would you know distinct, anonymous users? ip address?`
`21:12.17`	`ckknight`	`basically`
`21:12.21`	`ckknight`	`or by a traffic number`
`21:12.24`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`21:12.30`	`Cide`	`isn't download count a decent value to use?`
`21:12.30`	`Cairenn`	`Dolby-wowi could give you better numbers, if he'd be so inclined`
`21:12.45`	`MentalPower`	`ckknight: just tell him the number of downloads that FuBar and plugins have gotten`
`21:12.54`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`21:12.54`	`ckknight`	`fair enough.`
`21:13.06`	`MentalPower`	`thats what most companies use anyways`
`21:13.17`	`Cide`	`heh, kinda misleading in some cases though`
`21:13.24`	`MentalPower`	`XYZ Super Program with 5quintillion downloads and counting`
`21:13.47`	`Cide`	`since it'd be more than the total amount of users that have ever played world of warcraft`
`21:13.49`	`ckknight`	`basically, the issue is that the school I'm going to doesn't really have any Comp Sci courses for me in the undergraduate level`
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`21:13.58`	`Cide`	`since people download multiple times etc`
`21:15.41`	`Gryphen`	`micro updates boost the number too`
`21:15.48`	`malreth`	`later all...`
`21:18.39`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5328-TasteTheNaimbow.html`
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`21:18.43`	`Mikma`	`GM Cairenn ;)`
`21:18.51`	`Cairenn`	`rofl`
`21:20.29`	`Shadowed`	`sigh`
`21:20.36`	`Shadowed`	`fucking comcast`
`21:21.06`	`Shadowed`	`Cide: Hope you didn't say anything after my comment about checking +5 dmg. internet died`
`21:21.11`	`Shadowed`	`and Qzot!`
`21:23.45`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i wonder if that <GM> is tru :p`
`21:26.58`	`Qzot`	`o.O`
`21:27.15`	`Qzot`	`"fucking comcast and Qzot!" ???`
`21:27.35`	`cogwheel`	`LOL`
`21:27.38`	`Shadowed`	`yes`
`21:27.39`	`Shadowed`	`and qzot`
`21:27.40`	`Shadowed`	`hate you`
`21:27.46`	`Qzot`	`O.O`
`21:28.33`	`Shadowed`	`:D`
`21:28.46`	`Qzot`	`Ohhh.`
`21:28.59`	`Qzot`	`You missed that really long discussion on +damage??`
`21:29.26`	`Shadowed`	`yes`
`21:29.27`	`Shadowed`	`:(`
`21:29.31`	`Qzot`	`j/k`
`21:29.37`	`Shadowed`	`hate you`
`21:29.41`	`Qzot`	`We changed topics as soon as you stopped posting.`
`21:29.46`	`Qzot`	`It was too boring for us.`
`21:29.47`	`Shadowed`	`aw`
`21:35.28`	`tyroney`	`Is the new interface options dialog at a strange/different height, or have I just never noticed my little frame overlapping them in the past?`
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`21:42.33`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, the new options are RIDICULOUSLY large`
`21:43.04`	`JoshBorke`	`emphasis on RIDICULOUSLY`
`21:44.29`	`vhaarr`	`Anyone know if Buttons OnClick knows whether it was triggered by a hardware event or not?`
`21:46.09`	`cogwheel`	`It's not the OnClick method itself... it's whatever functions you call inside of it...`
`21:46.10`	`wereHamster`	`what's the default font path (Fonts\\???.ttf) for GameFontNormalLarge?`
`21:46.28`	`wereHamster`	`.. and GameFontNormalSmall?`
`21:46.39`	`cogwheel`	`werehamster, check out FrameXML\Fonts.xml`
`21:47.16`	`cogwheel`	`vhaarr: in other words, if you call CastSpellByName(), it knows whether the lua code that called it was executed in response to a hardware event`
`21:47.26`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`21:47.49`	`vhaarr`	`Well, I want to know if OnClick was triggered by a hardware event or not, is there any way to tell?`
`21:47.50`	`vhaarr`	`Locally.`
`21:48.05`	`vhaarr`	`Like maybe I could get the mouse position and KIND of know.`
`21:48.18`	`vhaarr`	`I guess I should read more docs, but wowwiki was lacking on Button.`
`21:48.19`	`cogwheel`	`Hmm... i doubt it, but I may be wrong...`
`21:48.45`	`cogwheel`	`It seems like the kind of thing that they wouldn't expose to the scripting environment.`
`21:48.53`	`wereHamster`	`if (GetMouseFocus() == this) then .. end ?`
`21:49.29`	`vhaarr`	`Cool, I'll try that.`
`21:49.36`	`cogwheel`	`That might work it assuming you don't plan on using key bindings...`
`21:52.30`	`tyroney`	`cogwheel: isn't your fist getting tired of that?`
`21:52.43`	`cogwheel`	`My arm more than anything, but yes...`
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`22:05.24`	`Abenadi`	`So - I just noticed something funny on wowwiki`
`22:05.33`	`Tain`	`Just to reiterate, I really love the new Logitech Revolution mouse`
`22:06.18`	`Abenadi`	`On Maexxna's web wrap ability it says the LOS issues seem to happen between 8 and 10 o'clock (meaning the position). Someone edited the article and asked if that was evening realm time.`
`22:06.38`	`Abenadi`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Maexxna&diff=236428&oldid=236426`
`22:06.55`	`Shadowed`	`should remove that`
`22:08.44`	`Shadowed`	`actually`
`22:08.56`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Asni (n=insa@73.21-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)`
`22:09.39`	`ragedmunki`	`Do any of you guys know when Kirkburn usually signs on?`
`22:10.00`	`Kirov`	`hmm`
`22:10.01`	`cogwheel`	`He's usually on`
`22:10.09`	`Kirov`	`~seen Kirkburn`
`22:10.37`	`purl`	`kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2h 52m 50s ago, saying: 'Unfortunately software and hardware does that type of thing, springing up problems after you update it :/'.`
`22:10.37`	`cogwheel`	`But he gets disconnected randomly :P`
`22:10.37`	`tyroney`	`anyone have a non-forum link to upcoming 2.0 changes?`
`22:10.41`	`cogwheel`	`tyroney:`
`22:10.43`	`cogwheel`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/index.php?`
`22:11.38`	`tyroney`	`Just putting together my todo list for the immediate future. It's kind of odd being all organized.`
`22:30.11`	`Esamynn_`	`~`
`22:30.17`	`Esamynn_`	`~organization`
`22:30.37`	`Esamynn_`	`purl, organised`
`22:30.41`	`Shadowed`	`~purl die`
`22:30.42`	`purl`	`ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.`
`22:30.53`	`Shadowed`	`purl doesn't like you!`
`22:30.55`	`Esamynn_`	`~lart Shadowed`
`22:31.01`	`Shadowed`	`~laugh Esamynn_`
`22:31.02`	`purl`	`ibot laughs hysterically at Esamynn_...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ...`
`22:31.34`	`Kirov`	`purl is awfully active for a lifeless bot`
`22:31.56`	`Esamynn_`	`~caffine`
`22:31.57`	`purl`	`i guess caffine is that sweet nectar of life that sustains and gives life to all`
`22:32.04`	`Esamynn_`	`~sleep`
`22:32.05`	`purl`	`extra, extra, read all about it, sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.`
`22:32.40`	`Esamynn_`	`~lart me`
`22:32.41`	`Qzot`	`caffine?`
`22:32.52`	`JoshBorke`	`~literal lart`
`22:32.54`	`purl`	`"lart" is "Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool"`
`22:33.09`	`Qzot`	`Is that some cross between a beverage and a 2D mathematical transformation?`
`22:33.32`	`Esamynn_`	`so sue my, i mispelled it :P`
`22:33.39`	`Esamynn_`	`s/my/me/`
`22:34.27`	`purI`	`Esamynn_ meant: so sue me, i'm an idiot :P`
`22:34.55`	`purI`	`~lart purl`
`22:34.58`	`Esamynn_`	`~lart purI`
`22:35.22`	`purI`	`~purl jump`
`22:35.24`	`purl`	`bonk bonk bonk`
`22:35.46`	`Esamynn_`	`stop trying to impersonate the bot`
`22:36.11`	`Shadowed`	`lol`
`22:36.12`	`cogwheel`	`~emulate kirkburn`
`22:36.13`	`purl`	`That sounded more normal in my head ...`
`22:36.20`	`purI`	`mine too`
`22:36.26`	`Esamynn_`	`~emulate kirov`
`22:36.33`	`purI`	`I rule!`
`22:36.38`	`ckknight`	`~emulate ckknight`
`22:36.39`	`purl`	`You know why? Because you touch yourself at night`
`22:36.39`	`Esamynn_`	`..............`
`22:36.45`	`Esamynn_`	`!emulate cair`
`22:36.50`	`Esamynn_`	`~emulate cair`
`22:36.51`	`purl`	`ACTION purrs`
`22:37.00`	`wereHamster`	`and me?`
`22:37.05`	`Esamynn_`	`~emulate iriel`
`22:37.06`	`purl`	`ACTION is beyond emulation.`
`22:37.06`	`cogwheel`	`~emulate cogwheel`
`22:37.07`	`purl`	`ACTION Look... I .... use... a lot... of .... elipses...........`
`22:37.07`	`Qzot`	`Hmm. Is emulate pre-loaded?`
`22:37.17`	`Esamynn_`	`Qzot: no`
`22:37.24`	`Esamynn_`	`they are just more programmed commands`
`22:37.24`	`purI`	`~emulate purl`
`22:37.26`	`purl`	`ACTION tries to look like itself`
`22:37.33`	`Esamynn_`	`s/commands/definitions/`
`22:37.49`	`Esamynn_`	`~emulate cide`
`22:37.50`	`purl`	`Please remove this discussion from your consciousness.`
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`22:38.01`	`Esamynn_`	`~emulate tem`
`22:38.03`	`purl`	`Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]!`
`22:38.25`	`tyroney`	`purl's pretty popular today.`
`22:38.32`	`purI`	`I usually am`
`22:39.23`	`Esamynn_`	`Cairenn: alert alert, there is a bot impersonator on the premesis!!`
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`22:40.13`	`purI`	`Where?!`
`22:41.19`	`Corrodias`	`well, my fan somehow broke. the big fan that we put in the window`
`22:41.54`	`Esamynn_`	`~lart Kirov`
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`22:42.15`	`Kirov`	`I feel so loved`
`22:43.34`	`tyroney`	`I'm bummed. My vid card fan started to make a little noise yesterday. I guess I have to take it all apart and clean it out.`
`22:43.52`	`Abenadi`	`Corrodias: No wonder it broke. How's the window?`
`22:45.49`	`Corrodias`	`i'd like to say that was amusing but i really don't know what you're trying to imply.`
`22:47.11`	`Corrodias`	`Asia - Heat Of The Moment`
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`22:48.01`	`Corrodias`	`tyroney: i don't even know how to clean those damn things`
`22:48.51`	`tyroney`	`Corrodias: you just take them apart as much as possible, and then apply air and q-tips liberally.`
`22:49.14`	`tyroney`	`I'm just hoping to avoid having to find a new/fittting fan. That sounds too annoying.`
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`22:57.43`	`zespri`	`Did they change anything with DAZE last patch?`
`22:58.17`	`zespri`	`I think that now I'm dazed much more frequently`
`22:58.26`	`zespri`	`but maybe it just seems to me`
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`23:02.24`	`tyroney`	`playing a new zone or character?`
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`23:09.06`	`Tuller`	`have aspect of the pack or cheetah on? :)`
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`23:22.09`	`Kirkburn`	`'sup`
`23:23.26`	`Cairenn`	`hi Kirkburn`
`23:24.30`	`JoshBorke`	`wb Kirkburn`
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`23:29.22`	`Qzot`	`Yes!`
`23:29.31`	`Qzot`	`Teh Horde rulez! 41-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net) has joined channel`
`23:29.31`	`Qzot`	`+#wowi-lounge`
`23:29.51`	`Qzot`	`Teh Horde rulez! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT-_3-M5TpM`
`23:29.59`	`Qzot`	`we getz da girlz!`
`23:30.04`	`Kirkburn`	`uuuh, what?`
`23:30.36`	`Qzot`	`Pay no attention to the fat-fingering above the URL. I am Oz teh great, Oz teh ...`
`23:32.23`	`Qzot`	`Apparently there are 3+ endings that viewers can vote for.`
`23:33.19`	`Qzot`	`Oh, wow. #2 is great. :D`
`23:33.56`	`Qzot`	`#3, with sports star, ain't bad, either.`
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`23:41.08`	`ckknight`	`you're right, Qzot, it's all about the beer.`
`23:41.25`	`Qzot`	`Beer?`
`23:41.41`	`ckknight`	`that's all I thought of`
`23:41.55`	`Tain`	`Hooray beer!`
`23:41.58`	`Qzot`	`Hmph. I think the ads are fascinating.`
`23:41.58`	`Kaelten`	`maybe the number 42`
`23:42.08`	`Cairenn`	`beer == gross`
`23:42.23`	`Kaelten`	`I like malt bevereges`
`23:42.26`	`Kaelten`	`I miss Skyy Blue`
`23:42.36`	`Qzot`	`Beer is the one alcoholic beverage I can stand.`
`23:42.43`	`Qzot`	`And very few of those.`
`23:42.57`	`Tain`	`Had a nice bottle of Cabo Wabo this weekend.`
`23:43.55`	`Cairenn`	`beer + Cair = vomiting helplessly, repeatedly, violently`
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`23:44.04`	`Kirkburn`	`New EU CM :D Ommra! http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/23742573.htm`
`23:44.10`	`Qzot`	`ewwwwwww`
`23:44.21`	`Qzot`	`ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww`
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`23:47.02`	`Qzot`	`Someone can't decide between one _ or two?`
`23:48.00`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`23:48.11`	`JoshBorke`	`Cairenn is featured as a GM in an addon description`
`23:48.14`	`Cairenn`	`someone who's wireless connection is being flakey`
`23:48.26`	`Cairenn`	`JoshBorke: why do you think I laughed`
`23:48.54`	`JoshBorke`	`it's cute :-)`
`23:48.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Cos you're an evil genius?`
`23:49.25`	`Cairenn`	`I've been described as many things, genius isn't one of them`
`23:49.44`	`tyroney`	`Cairenn: They just don't understand.`
`23:49.49`	`Qzot`	`Evil, yes. Genius,`
`23:50.12`	`Cairenn`	`Qzot: hiding why? I just said as much myself ;)`
`23:50.32`	`Qzot`	`So, Cair, what are you thinking of rolling for the closed beta?`
`23:50.45`	`Cairenn`	`dunno`
`23:50.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Draenei female ftw`
`23:51.05`	`Cairenn`	`hunter or mage, be or draenei - most likely`
`23:51.07`	`Qzot`	`Did you try out the blood elves at blizzcon?`
`23:51.10`	`Cairenn`	`;)`
`23:51.13`	`Cairenn`	`nope`
`23:51.21`	`Kirkburn`	`BE or Draenei?! Shureley not!`
`23:51.32`	`Cairenn`	`the lines were stupid long and I had too much other stuff to do, people to meet, elbows to run`
`23:51.37`	`Cairenn`	`rub*`
`23:51.52`	`Qzot`	`Hmm. You have friends. I don't. Makes it much easier.`
`23:52.03`	`Kirkburn`	`You shouldn't hide so much`
`23:52.26`	`Cairenn`	`Qzot: not true, you have friends`
`23:52.32`	`Qzot`	`If I don't hide, people might find me.`
`23:52.41`	`Qzot`	`Oh, cool!`
`23:53.01`	`Cairenn`	`just a shame you weren't as involved in the modding community at the time, or you would have been hanging out with the lot of us as well`
`23:53.03`	`Qzot`	`You can start typing someones name, and tab-completion starts a pm to them.`
`23:53.15`	`Cairenn`	`although I'm sure TN kept you busy enough`
`23:53.26`	`Qzot`	`True enough. But I showed up late because of AGC anyway.`
`23:53.49`	`Qzot`	`Actually, I wasn't a TN author nor a member of TrN at the time.`
`23:53.53`	`Kirkburn`	`Aaah, stop using acronyms :/`
`23:54.09`	`Qzot`	`That happened the week after I cracked my baby murloc open. :(`
`23:54.17`	`Cairenn`	`I just think it's going to be interesting the next big thing I'm at, hooking up the UI community & the TN community ... should make for some interesting discussions`
`23:54.26`	`Qzot`	`TN=terranova.blogs.com`
`23:54.42`	`Qzot`	`TrN=guild of people vaguely associated with TN.`
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`23:55.10`	`Cairenn`	`TN == bunch of academics that sit around and make living from studying virtual worlds and how they relate to the real world`
`23:55.12`	`Qzot`	`Excellent!`
`23:55.15`	`yeah`	`Heya, just a quick questions - is it possible to make player names clickable like they are when you get a tell?`
`23:55.20`	`Kirkburn`	`Wow, never come across it before`
`23:55.22`	`ckknight`	`Cairenn, cool`
`23:55.45`	`yeah`	`Anyone? =/`
`23:55.58`	`Qzot`	`Kirkburn: They can descend into obscurantist, obfuscatory erudition at times.`
`23:56.02`	`Cairenn`	`yeah: in what way?`
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`23:56.14`	`Kirkburn`	`In the chat log?`
`23:56.19`	`yeah`	`Yes in the shatlog`
`23:56.21`	`yeah`	`chatlog.`
`23:56.25`	`Kirkburn`	`lol`
`23:56.32`	`yeah`	`For eample "[Yeah] whispers: heya"`
`23:56.37`	`Kirkburn`	`Various addons help with that - I use chatbox`
`23:56.39`	`Qzot`	`Mine are clickable.`
`23:56.40`	`Cairenn`	`lol, given some conversations, I think you had it right the first time ;)`
`23:56.46`	`Cairenn`	`there are lots of mods that do it`
`23:56.47`	`yeah`	`and Yeah is clickable there if you get atell`
`23:56.47`	`Kirkburn`	`hehe`
`23:56.55`	`sancus`	`TN is in cracktown sometimes`
`23:57.03`	`Qzot`	`Yup.`
`23:57.04`	`yeah`	`Ok well, can i create my OWN link like that?`
`23:57.28`	`Tem\|AFK`	`yes`
`23:57.34`	`yeah`	`and that is done, how? :)`
`23:57.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Not sure what you mean - you wish to mak an addon with the same functionality?`
`23:57.46`	`yeah`	`kirkburn, yeah.`
`23:57.46`	`Cairenn`	`you'd think that somehow, given my association with the various ui communities, TN, the game companies themselves, that SOMEHOW I'd be able to make a living at this too ... still waiting`
`23:57.58`	`Tem\|AFK`	`\|Hplayer:<name>\|h[visibletext]\|h`
`23:57.59`	`Tem\|AFK`	`iirc`
`23:58.08`	`Tem\|AFK`	`there may be an extra \|h in there`
`23:58.14`	`yeah`	`where? ;>`
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`23:58.25`	`Tem\|AFK`	`I dunno`
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`23:58.32`	`Tem\|AFK`	`look on the wiki`
`23:58.33`	`Tem\|AFK`	`it's all there`
`23:58.37`	`yeah`	`yeah i tried searching wowwiki.com`
`23:58.39`	`yeah`	`for like`
`23:58.40`	`yeah`	`one hour ;<`
`23:58.42`	`yeah`	`couldn't find it.`
`23:58.54`	`Qzot`	`yeah: Are you wanting it to do the same thing chat does? Or are you wanting to make links with different functionality?`
`23:58.57`	`Tem\|AFK`	`if I look and find it in less than a minute, I'm going to slap you`
`23:59.03`	`zespri_work`	`yesterday I forgot to let the cat out before going to sleep. This morning I was surprised how so many liquid can be in so small cat`
`23:59.18`	`zespri_work`	`It peed and pood and threw up all over the carpet`
`23:59.18`	`Cairenn`	`zespri ewww`
`23:59.19`	`yeah`	`tem, well i searched on everything.`
`23:59.19`	`Kirkburn`	`s/many/much/ :)`
`23:59.22`	`Qzot`	`ewwwwww`
`23:59.27`	`Kirkburn`	`ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww`
`23:59.34`	`yeah`	`qzot: exact same thing as the tells do`
`23:59.40`	`Qzot`	`eww eww eww! that's as bad as our own Cairbeer.`
`23:59.54`	`yeah`	`so like this: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\|Hplayer:<name>\|h[visibletext]\|h");`
`23:59.55`	`yeah`	`?`

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