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| 00:05.47 | Guillotine | Can anyone spot the problem with this? http://curse.pastey.net/1073 I get no errors, but the sounds never play |
| 00:06.02 | Guillotine | The table is in format http://curse.pastey.net/1074 |
| 00:13.21 | grr | hmm |
| 00:13.40 | grr | can you anchor a parents bottom to a childs bottom so it automagicly expands if the child grows? |
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| 00:15.25 | Guillotine | don't think so |
| 00:15.26 | Cairenn | rofl, you know, anyone who didn't code who sat in this channel some days would probably at the very least have raised eyebrows, if not go to the police |
| 00:15.36 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 00:16.00 | Guillotine | thats a good point, I didn't even notice that |
| 00:16.18 | grr | LOL |
| 00:16.19 | grr | haha |
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| 00:17.12 | Cairenn | you guys talk about abandoning children and all kinds of perverted things .... if you don't know what's actually being said |
| 00:17.21 | Cairenn | just amuses me some days |
| 00:17.25 | Fructose | Anyone use Stubby/EnhTooltip? |
| 00:17.27 | Cairenn | then again, I'm easily amused, so |
| 00:17.40 | JoshBorke | grr: no |
| 00:17.52 | JoshBorke | grr: you cannot have cyclical anchorings |
| 00:18.57 | Cairenn | Fructose: MentalPower seems to be afk at the moment and norgs isn't actually in right now, but given that they are the current lead dev & original author (respectively) ... |
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| 00:19.40 | grr | JoshBorke: So i have to find out the new size of the children and adjust the parent with SetHeight() ? |
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| 00:27.42 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 00:29.06 | ceph | i'm going to have to disagree with you there |
| 00:29.47 | JoshBorke | feel free to :-) i'm still a n00b |
| 00:30.39 | [floyd] | "cyclical dependencies" sound like a stack overflow. |
| 00:33.07 | [floyd] | The egg and hen send best regards as well ;) |
| 00:33.20 | ckknight | egg came first, btw |
| 00:33.37 | [floyd] | Thanks for the confirmation :D |
| 00:37.17 | ckknight | well, from an evolutionary standpoint, at least |
| 00:38.06 | ckknight | if you have a non-evolutionary creationistic view, then it was up to the creator of your choice |
| 00:39.03 | [floyd] | Creationism is cool, if just for comedy. |
| 00:40.15 | ckknight | my personal beliefs are a bit off the wall regarding all that :-P |
| 00:40.48 | JoshBorke | erm, how do i show pretty editboxes? |
| 00:41.37 | ckknight | magic is my first assumption, JoshBorke |
| 00:41.41 | [floyd] | MyFrame:ShowPurettyEditBox(); |
| 00:41.43 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 00:41.51 | [floyd] | The ";" is optional. |
| 00:42.00 | JoshBorke | my text is outside the border |
| 00:42.25 | [floyd] | A corollary of poor windowing system design.... |
| 00:43.09 | JoshBorke | know of any mods that have editboxes? |
| 00:43.17 | JoshBorke | oh, kci does, but it's huge... |
| 00:43.21 | ckknight | Dewdrop |
| 00:43.27 | JoshBorke | ooo, yea! |
| 00:44.39 | ckknight | all glory, laud, and honor can be directed to me ;-) |
| 00:45.00 | [floyd] | It will be in due time. |
| 00:45.06 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:50.29 | JoshBorke | blah |
| 00:50.51 | JoshBorke | i have to cerate a frame to make it look right |
| 00:51.19 | ckknight | so? |
| 00:51.46 | JoshBorke | :-( i hate xml :-( |
| 00:52.19 | ckknight | Dewdrop uses no XML... |
| 00:52.25 | [floyd] | There's always Lua for the XML haters ;) |
| 00:52.45 | [floyd] | Let me rephrase: Pick your poison. |
| 00:53.06 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:53.08 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 00:53.13 | JoshBorke | mainly i just hate guis |
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| 00:54.22 | ckknight | that's why we have nice libraries like Dewdrop :-P |
| 00:54.41 | JoshBorke | lol, dewdrop won't QUITE work for this ;-) |
| 00:55.07 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 00:55.28 | JoshBorke | don't get me wrong, i love dewdrop because it makes menus so easy |
| 00:55.42 | JoshBorke | i only wish i could pass it a table ala ace-options without using ace-options :-P |
| 00:56.05 | ckknight | AceGUI-2.0 :-P |
| 00:56.21 | ckknight | it's not done, though |
| 00:56.21 | JoshBorke | isn't that tem's project? |
| 00:57.05 | Cairenn | Cide: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6279 |
| 00:57.11 | ckknight | yea, JoshBorke |
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| 00:59.40 | JoshBorke | we can't tab between editboxs, can we? |
| 01:01.34 | JoshBorke | well why can't DewDrop do it for me?! |
| 01:01.37 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 01:09.13 | [floyd] | Keyboard input is borked in the WoW interface. You can try to fix Blizzard's code, but it will never be ok-ish... |
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| 01:19.27 | MentalPower | Fructose: I'm here right now, but I'll be out again in a few mins. You can either ask your question here and I'll answer it when I read the logs or you can go to our forums (http://norganna.org/discuss/) and post your question there. |
| 01:36.00 | Fructose | MentalPower: Well, I'm just trying to figure out how to hook my function. |
| 01:37.04 | Fructose | http://wowi.pastey.net/1078 |
| 01:37.14 | Fructose | I try that, but I never see "foo" |
| 01:37.29 | Fructose | I've tried other variations, but that is what Auctioneer and others use |
| 01:38.20 | Corr[home] | sounds like E'T is getting "another" hardware upgrade, and i say that because i'm not sure we ever got one in the first place |
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| 01:38.55 | Corr[home] | i never lost my friends list last time |
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| 01:48.48 | Wobin | possibly better to back it up anyway |
| 01:50.22 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5330-FriendSave.html |
| 01:54.56 | Corr[home] | no worries, i've got it covered with friendshare (friends/ignore list saver, propogates across your characters) |
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| 02:07.24 | cmunn | What is the party frame backdrop thing? |
| 02:07.50 | cmunn | I need to hide it |
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| 02:31.55 | cmunn | Anyone know the name of the Party Frame? |
| 02:32.30 | Thrae | PartyFrame1-4 |
| 02:34.08 | cmunn | Is - Legal in a name? |
| 02:35.26 | Thrae | PartyFrame1 through PartyFrame4 |
| 02:40.24 | Kirkburn|Vista | Corr[home], the upgrades need more than one maintenance, different things are being donw each time |
| 03:07.34 | Tuller | so, at least eng bags is still in working order, right? |
| 03:07.58 | Xuerian | more or less |
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| 03:08.49 | Xuerian | Hogging more memory than ever, no less essential. |
| 03:11.46 | Tuller | wow, did not know it actually hung when switching slots |
| 03:12.06 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 03:12.50 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Morning! |
| 03:15.39 | Kirkburn|Vista | Ooh, I just noticed an interesting change in 1.12.1 0 you get a different prompt if you try to abandon a quest with items |
| 03:16.29 | Cairenn | cladhaire: lol |
| 03:16.36 | cladhaire | Cairenn: ? |
| 03:16.52 | Cairenn | saying good morning, it amused me is all |
| 03:17.04 | Kirkburn|Vista | It already really is morning for me :P |
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| 03:21.11 | cladhaire | Cairenn: http://wowi.pastey.net/1080 |
| 03:21.12 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:21.36 | Kirkburn|Vista | LOL |
| 03:21.42 | Kirkburn|Vista | I think that's worrying :P |
| 03:21.51 | cladhaire | the next stats will be more fun |
| 03:21.52 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:21.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:22.53 | Kirkburn|Vista | I know I use a lot, but that's just crazy! |
| 03:22.58 | cladhaire | heh |
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| 03:31.56 | Kirkburn|Vista | Time to call it a night |
| 03:32.06 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.09 | cladhaire | wait until my script finished |
| 03:32.17 | cladhaire | it'll tell you how many smiles per hour you had =) |
| 03:32.26 | Kirkburn|Vista | Oh okay :) ;) =) :P :D |
| 03:33.02 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn|Vista, sweet dreams |
| 03:33.12 | Xuerian | 'night |
| 03:33.24 | cladhaire | The real question is why SVNBot smiled four times |
| 03:33.41 | cladhaire | purl is 47th! |
| 03:35.09 | cladhaire | damn script didn't work. |
| 03:35.12 | cladhaire | Industrial: What subjects? |
| 03:35.37 | Kirkburn|Vista | That sounds like my cue to leave, hope you get it working so tell me 2moro :) |
| 03:35.42 | cladhaire | Kirkburn|Vista: You can go to bed, I'll make sure you get the infoz =) |
| 03:36.10 | Kirkburn|Vista | Ta, night night! |
| 03:36.14 | Industrial | cladhaire: I dont know, im kind of bored so I need something to read - if its about programming, ive never done anything with languages that get compiled |
| 03:36.29 | Industrial | er.. well you know what i mean |
| 03:36.31 | cladhaire | Industrial: Hrm.. |
| 03:37.45 | cladhaire | ok.. the boy is home, so we're gonna go grab some food |
| 03:37.45 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 03:37.56 | Industrial | This ones fun if you haven't read it yet: http://intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html |
| 03:38.09 | Cairenn | later clad|out, have fun :) |
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| 03:57.41 | Cairenn | Industrial: http://terranova.blogs.com/ |
| 03:58.14 | Industrial | Cairenn: yay :D |
| 03:58.55 | Cairenn | it's pretty in-depth stuff |
| 03:58.56 | Cairenn | written by academics for academics |
| 03:59.29 | Industrial | I always start with the oldest post :P |
| 03:59.37 | Cairenn | but you said you were bored, so ... |
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| 04:09.14 | malreth | gah... nefarian finally died |
| 04:09.40 | malreth | had a run of really bad luck |
| 04:10.05 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 04:10.30 | malreth | had the undead zerg right after a priest call, coincided with a bellowing roar, insta-kill of the MT |
| 04:10.39 | malreth | and while we were recovering from taht, a warlock call |
| 04:11.05 | malreth | 40 people dead in under a minute... everything collapsed |
| 04:11.41 | malreth | raid leader didn't even have to call for a wipe... we were dead dead dead |
| 04:12.12 | malreth | just really rotten luck and bad timing |
| 04:12.39 | malreth | but, we rezzed up, restarted the encounter, and got our revenge |
| 04:13.15 | malreth | so, see... there's a happy end |
| 04:13.25 | malreth | now i go pass out |
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| 04:48.19 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:58.32 | Cairenn | so, Industrial, how much did you read before you said "naw, boring" |
| 05:05.44 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep, sweet dreams :) |
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| 05:08.57 | Cairenn | night all |
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| 05:16.57 | ckknight | I ran out of WoW time :-( now I can't play wow. woe is me |
| 05:17.04 | ckknight | my world is near-shattered |
| 05:17.10 | Cairenn|sleep | :( |
| 05:24.07 | Guillotine | g2g everyone. Good night :) |
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| 05:39.08 | Tem|Sleep | night everyone |
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| 05:40.32 | zespri | what is the new mount/riding system? (you just can give me a link) |
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| 06:29.42 | cmunn | What is the name of the Party Frame? |
| 06:29.46 | cmunn | I need to hide it. |
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| 07:55.42 | Shadowed | So, there doesn't happen to be a library that can get the amount of people within X of a player in a raid/party using the map locations? |
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| 08:24.45 | Corr[home] | i'm not aware of one... but i'm not aware of much |
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| 10:20.18 | krka | new favorite program: baobab |
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| 11:03.37 | grr | hmm |
| 11:03.41 | grr | what is the modulus operator in lua? |
| 11:03.42 | grr | not % ;> |
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| 11:17.22 | Wobin | math.mod? |
| 11:28.49 | krka | % works in 5.1 |
| 11:29.35 | nevcairiel | its still 2 month till 5.1 :) |
| 11:29.50 | krka | Shadowed: that's trivial: for i = 1, 4 do unit = "party" .. i local dist = MapLibrary.GetDistanceInYards(unit, "player") end |
| 11:30.09 | krka | (atleast last time i used MapLibrary, which was several patches ago) |
| 11:32.01 | FISKER_Q | :O? |
| 11:32.03 | FISKER_Q | 2 months |
| 11:32.06 | FISKER_Q | zomg release date |
| 11:32.14 | FISKER_Q | stop the presses! |
| 11:32.53 | FISKER_Q | Is there an addon that can help with minimap buttons and square minimaps |
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| 11:41.21 | Kaso | i've just always used DFM to move my minimap buttons ^_- |
| 11:42.07 | FISKER_Q | DFM? |
| 11:44.51 | Wobin | I've used visor |
| 12:06.12 | AnduinLothar | just go hack the mmb algorithm |
| 12:06.59 | AnduinLothar | cause if i do it they're jsut conna ask to add semi circle and triangle shapes |
| 12:07.46 | AnduinLothar | and then they'll whine when it breaks cause i dotn have a square minimap to test on |
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| 12:10.49 | grr | hmm |
| 12:11.52 | grr | i got some raid tasks which are frames and some player frames(max 40 = max ppl in raid) is it alot of work for the UI engine to reposition those on every update to anyone of them? Could be about 50-60 frames total. Should i add some typ if "frame.Changed = true" field to the frames? |
| 12:12.37 | grr | Say if i get one more member in the raid currently all the frames are repositioned to addapt to it, or if one player logs of and the name should turn gray all frames are redrawn. |
| 12:13.03 | grr | *redrawn = re-positioned |
| 12:13.56 | grr | i mean sure the repositioning doesn't happen that often it's not like i put it in OnUpdate() or anythin. |
| 12:13.59 | grr | Anyone? ;< |
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| 12:15.10 | Amro | i dont get what you mean |
| 12:15.23 | Amro | you say "reposition those on every update" |
| 12:15.31 | Amro | then you say you dont put it in OnUpdate() |
| 12:16.19 | grr | well on any update to the raid, say if a new memer joins, etc. |
| 12:16.24 | grr | or if a member goes online/offline. |
| 12:16.34 | grr | or if a new task is added. |
| 12:16.56 | grr | so it's not very often they're repositioned, but it still feels like a waste to reposition them every time. |
| 12:18.03 | Amro | why are you repositioning all on changes? |
| 12:19.08 | grr | well because i have one function that does the positioning of all the players withing the tasks, etc. so i just call taht and it positions everything as it should be. |
| 12:20.07 | Amro | check if the task group has changed before repositioning |
| 12:20.12 | Amro | that specific group |
| 12:20.20 | grr | well yes i was working on that |
| 12:20.35 | grr | but the thing about that is the fact that it requires alot of "task.Changed = true" additions in the code everywhere |
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| 12:34.15 | Amro_ | instead of doing that you could do the positioning right there |
| 12:34.23 | Amro_ | you'd have to change your positioning function |
| 12:39.03 | grr | ye |
| 12:39.04 | grr | i did that now |
| 12:39.15 | grr | so it only repositions them individally |
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| 13:01.55 | Industrial | woohoo muay thai gala! |
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| 13:26.01 | Wobin | Does anyone know how to tell when the player has gone afk specifically? |
| 13:27.12 | Cairenn | look for the afk tag? |
| 13:28.44 | Wobin | That's just it =\ There doesn't appear to be a specific call to find it |
| 13:31.28 | grr | Wobin: there has to be |
| 13:31.38 | Wobin | You'd think =) |
| 13:31.40 | grr | Since CT_RA has a AFK-count |
| 13:32.02 | grr | or maybe the clients interoperate to make out who's AFK and who's not |
| 13:32.29 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:32.30 | grr | anyway, look at CT_RA they have an AFK count so they must have done it one way or another, if that way will help you is an other matter whoever ;P |
| 13:32.35 | Wobin | Maybe it's from the raidinfo though |
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| 13:33.09 | grr | well as I said they did it one way or another ;P |
| 13:33.12 | AnduinLothar | cyra send afk msgs accross the hidden chat |
| 13:33.13 | grr | donnu if it will help you tho |
| 13:33.25 | grr | ctra i suppose |
| 13:33.34 | AnduinLothar | aye |
| 13:33.45 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:33.51 | Wobin | so it doesn't count non-ctra users? |
| 13:33.59 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 13:34.15 | Wobin | =\ |
| 13:34.24 | Wobin | looks like I'm scanning for system message then =P |
| 13:34.30 | AnduinLothar | except for rdy checks when everyon responds |
| 13:34.38 | Wobin | It seems a silly thing not to have available |
| 13:35.04 | AnduinLothar | you only get the system msg for yourself |
| 13:35.10 | Wobin | aye, that's all I need it for |
| 13:35.32 | Wobin | I'm tacking on a 'record all tells and replay them back during afk periods' to HeyFu |
| 13:35.39 | Wobin | s/during/after/ |
| 13:37.12 | AnduinLothar | put um in their own chat window imo |
| 13:38.42 | Wobin | hehe. I see the folder 'LCDXML' and think..."hmmm... roman numerals for... gah.." |
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| 13:42.26 | Mikk | Roman numeral years are boring now |
| 13:42.28 | Mikk | MMVI |
| 13:42.30 | Mikk | too short |
| 13:42.49 | Mikk | MCMLXXXVIII <- properly long |
| 13:43.16 | Mikk | granted. "(c) MM" looked kind of amusing :-P |
| 13:44.00 | Wobin | What's LCDXML? |
| 13:44.10 | Wobin | (or is it even a properly formed roman numeral?) |
| 13:44.34 | Mikk | aeuhmmm no not really |
| 13:45.06 | Mikk | it's the numerals 50,100,10,100,1000,50 |
| 13:45.34 | Mikk | which would imply something like (50-100)+(10-100)+1000+50 |
| 13:45.37 | Wobin | since LC is redundant... |
| 13:45.48 | Mikk | ehm |
| 13:45.49 | Mikk | sorry |
| 13:45.53 | Mikk | (100-50)+(100-10)+1000+50 |
| 13:46.14 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:46.18 | Mikk | Yeah, LC=L |
| 13:46.29 | Mikk | Though LCL = C |
| 13:46.31 | Wobin | XM is like... 9090? |
| 13:46.37 | Mikk | 990 |
| 13:46.37 | Wobin | no |
| 13:46.41 | Wobin | that doesn't work either =) |
| 13:46.47 | Wobin | alas |
| 13:47.04 | Mikk | Wait, I have D wrong |
| 13:47.05 | Wobin | Blizzard fails at the hidden roman numeral joke =) |
| 13:47.13 | Mikk | What's D? o.O |
| 13:47.15 | Mikk | 500? |
| 13:47.20 | Wobin | I think so |
| 13:47.31 | Wobin | ~D |
| 13:47.36 | purl | d is Soraya_'s unique version of the n disease. There is no cure. |
| 13:47.42 | Wobin | =( |
| 13:47.45 | Mikk | so (100-50)+500+10+1000+50 |
| 13:48.04 | Mikk | 1610 |
| 13:48.20 | Wobin | It doesn't just add up like... oh yes it does. |
| 13:48.24 | Wobin | Those wacky romans |
| 13:48.32 | Mikk | Except you'd never write it like that |
| 13:48.40 | Mikk | MLCX |
| 13:48.44 | Mikk | er |
| 13:48.45 | Mikk | MDCX |
| 13:48.55 | Mikk | Nope, not funny. |
| 13:48.57 | Mikk | Next joke please =) |
| 13:48.59 | Wobin | =( |
| 13:49.30 | Mikk | ~wiki d |
| 13:50.06 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:50.11 | Wobin | It's pronounced "Dee" |
| 13:50.15 | Wobin | ironic |
| 13:52.20 | Wobin | okies, if I'm scanning a string "You are now AFK: <personal msg>" string.sub will give the fastest response if I match the first chunk? |
| 13:53.46 | Mikk | Huh? |
| 13:54.05 | Mikk | string.find("^You are now AFK:" |
| 13:54.13 | Wobin | faster? |
| 13:54.14 | Mikk | Well.. except using a globalstring |
| 13:54.25 | Mikk | Faster... dunno. Less garbage certainly. |
| 13:54.31 | Mikk | string.sub creates garbage |
| 13:54.42 | Mikk | Either way you don't get a lot of sysmsgs so I don't really care =) |
| 13:54.53 | Wobin | true, but it's the thought that counts =) |
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| 13:55.08 | Mikk | I'd worry more about localization |
| 13:55.17 | Mikk | Which means working off of globalstrings |
| 13:56.21 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:56.27 | Wobin | I was just going to use AceLocale |
| 13:57.22 | Wobin | I've never properly investigated Globalstrings |
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| 15:02.10 | Mikk | Yay! I could restore all of my old hard drive that sounded like a busted car engine! |
| 15:02.13 | Mikk | My pr0n is safe! |
| 15:06.53 | Amro | lol, grats |
| 15:10.07 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes nice for u |
| 15:15.36 | Mikk | Now for the system drive that also sounds like a busted car engine .... |
| 15:16.00 | Mikk | Ugh. I can't believe I put up with this sound |
| 15:21.05 | Kirkburn|Vista | lol |
| 15:21.25 | zenzelezz | everything sounds silent to me after I used a FOP-38 CPU fan for a while |
| 15:21.35 | Mikk | Speaking of CPU fans... this box needs a new one. |
| 15:21.46 | Mikk | The new HD is damn silent and I put it in rubber hangings |
| 15:21.51 | Mikk | The new PSU is silent |
| 15:21.59 | Mikk | The CPU fan, which has been going nonstop for 5 years is ... not =) |
| 15:22.42 | Mikk | I don't get Intel's fans though |
| 15:22.54 | Mikk | They sound like bloody vacuum cleaners and have piss-poor cooling |
| 15:23.07 | zenzelezz | stock fans always suck |
| 15:23.15 | Mikk | Pop in a Zalmann that I can barely hear and my CPU temp dropped like 10 degrees |
| 15:23.27 | Kirkburn|Vista | I might have to buy one myself |
| 15:23.37 | Mikk | I mean... I get that silent+cool is a hard combination |
| 15:23.47 | Mikk | But if you sound like a bloody vacuum cleaner, you'd think that you'd be pushing a lot of air |
| 15:23.50 | Mikk | Apparently not >.< |
| 15:23.56 | Mikk | Cavitation ftw |
| 15:23.59 | Kirkburn|Vista | heh |
| 15:24.07 | zenzelezz | just don't buy a 60x60mm black delta-type fan |
| 15:24.19 | Mikk | Whuzzat o.O |
| 15:24.43 | zenzelezz | noisy f'ckers that spin way too fast and do something like 50 dBa |
| 15:24.58 | Mikk | Big fans = win |
| 15:25.26 | Kirkburn|Vista | zenzelezz, I bet that's what I have |
| 15:25.43 | zenzelezz | I doubt it, they're rarely used for CPU fans... at least not desktop fans |
| 15:26.30 | Kirkburn|Vista | Well I've got something that's evil, anyway :P |
| 15:26.39 | zenzelezz | plenty of those ;) |
| 15:27.00 | Kirkburn|Vista | It has flashy lights, though! |
| 15:27.11 | Kirkburn|Vista | This is despite the fact the case does not, in fact, have holes |
| 15:28.59 | Mikk | http://www.zalman.co.kr/usa/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=009 |
| 15:29.01 | Mikk | ^ win |
| 15:30.27 | Mikk | I have one of those. Revved it down quite a bit without the CPU temp going up. |
| 15:30.29 | Mikk | Can't hear the sucker =) |
| 15:32.36 | KaoS` | blah |
| 15:37.32 | Mikk | http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/12/13/zalman_cnps7700/page7.html |
| 15:37.38 | Mikk | haha, not so strange that it was better than the stock cooler |
| 15:40.43 | Mikk | Nuts. There's water coolers that are worse |
| 15:40.51 | Mikk | Zalman ftw =) |
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| 15:56.36 | Corr[home] | my old computer here uses an 80mm fan that's incredibly loud |
| 15:57.28 | Corr[home] | it is, however, outmatched by my new computer's front fan, because it's trying to blow through high resistance. fortunately, by leaving the grille off and pulling it slightly out of place, i can significantly reduce the volume |
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| 16:05.29 | grr | Mikk: Do you know any good and tested pair of function that serialize a table consisting of strings? |
| 16:05.42 | grr | It's a nested table to (2 levels deep iirc) |
| 16:10.09 | JoshBorke | http://wowi.pastecode.com/5435 why do i get an unfinished string error on line 5? |
| 16:18.07 | Corr[home] | looks like it should be okay to me, although you have a comma after the last item in that list of assignments and i don't know if that's correct |
| 16:18.09 | Corr[home] | i take it |
| 16:18.22 | Corr[home] | er, i take it \<line> is a string continuation in lua? |
| 16:19.40 | JoshBorke | yea. if i put the exact same function in a different file it works fine |
| 16:19.49 | JoshBorke | i think it has to do with linux/windows line endings |
| 16:19.58 | Corr[home] | it might... |
| 16:20.47 | Corr[home] | now i'm away @ driving back to the university |
| 16:22.26 | Kirkburn|Vista | There's something very wrong when a UK G15 costs £58.74 and a US layout costs £44.64 ... from a UK shop :/ |
| 16:24.06 | grr | hmm |
| 16:24.10 | grr | if i wanna make a texture semi-transparent? |
| 16:24.18 | grr | how do i set the alpha channel + enable it? |
| 16:24.27 | grr | alphaMode="ADD/MOD/BLEND" doesn't help so |
| 16:27.38 | grr | ? |
| 16:31.09 | Mery | texture:setAlpha(value) |
| 16:31.17 | Mery | texture:SetAlpha(value) |
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| 16:32.41 | Mery | (and of course you could also change alpha channel in the tga / blp) |
| 16:32.58 | grr | :SetAlpha() doesn't even exists for textures ;< |
| 16:33.28 | Mery | according to the wiki it should |
| 16:33.41 | grr | i couldn't find it in the wiki |
| 16:33.54 | grr | can u link it to me? <, |
| 16:33.55 | Cide | you can use :SetVertexColor(1, 1, 1, alpha) otherwise |
| 16:34.18 | Mery | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UIObject_SetAlpha |
| 16:34.30 | grr | hmm ok |
| 16:34.32 | Mery | Texture has all of the methods from UIObject, Region and LayeredRegion, plus the following: |
| 16:34.38 | grr | i want the black of a texture to become transparen |
| 16:34.53 | grr | exactly how would that look? |
| 16:35.08 | Cide | grr: try it out in game, much easier than asking such questions |
| 16:35.10 | Mery | I guess for that you need to change the texture file |
| 16:37.52 | grr | I'm gonna play around some with it ingame and see what i can come up with |
| 16:37.55 | grr | thnx for the help tho |
| 16:38.51 | Mery | I don't think you can substitute one color to be transparent by only using the UI (but then again I might be wrong as I just do it with an alpha channel in the image like all the others too) |
| 16:39.08 | grr | well i can change the file then? |
| 16:39.10 | grr | hmm |
| 16:39.13 | Mery | yes |
| 16:39.34 | grr | okies, that should work also |
| 16:39.34 | grr | but am i allowed to edit blizzards art and re-save? |
| 16:39.41 | grr | cos i want one of the keys ingame to overlay a minimap button when the mainframe is "locked" |
| 16:42.35 | Mery | if "allowed" means legally I don't know ... |
| 16:42.51 | grr | ;P |
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| 16:48.20 | Mikk | grr: You're not allowed to poke with the archive files, no. But you're definitely allowed to make a copy of a graphic and have in an addon that replaces what's seen in the UI. |
| 16:48.32 | Mikk | If you can do it via XML+Lua, it's ok. |
| 16:49.19 | Mikk | Granted, you could argue that if you can get the same effect as XML+Lua, it'd be ok to poke in the archive also, but the Warden doesn't know the nature of the change to the file, and will finger you regardless :-P |
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| 17:17.41 | JoshBorke | hello! |
| 17:17.53 | JoshBorke | no wowi admins on :( |
| 17:17.58 | Tuller | dun dun dun |
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| 17:56.39 | Seracht | hey |
| 17:56.47 | Seracht | cna you guys help me identify some mods in a picture |
| 17:58.00 | Seracht | http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7788/priestuitz4.jpg |
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| 18:10.01 | Shadowed | krka: sorry went to sleep. thanks will look at maplibrary |
| 18:11.30 | Seracht | hey guys you heard about the worldofwar.net having keyloggers right? |
| 18:12.17 | Mikma | no |
| 18:12.39 | Seracht | :s it was on forums |
| 18:13.19 | Corrodias | whatsthisnow |
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| 18:13.59 | Shadowed | So! anyone know what the number of yards is to get experience when a mob dies in a group is? |
| 18:14.43 | Seracht | anyone know any mods to move your buffs/debuffs and resize them |
| 18:16.09 | Corrodias | at least i can answer that last question: they exist, and you're looking for "buff bar" mods |
| 18:16.26 | Seracht | ok |
| 18:16.30 | Seracht | there is no category on that ;) |
| 18:16.39 | Seracht | and in your opinion is ecb the best casting bar replacement? |
| 18:16.43 | Corrodias | indeed, but you can search, at least |
| 18:17.04 | Seracht | yup |
| 18:17.05 | Corrodias | i have been using eCastingBar for a long time, now. i haven't seen any others, to be honest |
| 18:17.22 | cogwheel | Seracht: a) you should take it with a grain of salt (the keylogger thing) and b) it's not necessarily the fault of the site... Just don't download anything that has an exe file in it that isn't well-known |
| 18:17.26 | Corrodias | or if i did, they didn't interest me |
| 18:17.32 | Seracht | ok cog |
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| 18:17.53 | Seracht | wonder if keyloggers can be run wwhen extracting a rar |
| 18:18.07 | Corrodias | no |
| 18:18.08 | Seracht | ok cool corr thanks |
| 18:21.17 | Seracht | buff bar mods? |
| 18:21.50 | Seracht | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4165 |
| 18:21.53 | Corrodias | i have only ever heard of one, specifically |
| 18:21.55 | Seracht | this seems to be the only one I found |
| 18:21.59 | Seracht | Satrina buff frame |
| 18:22.08 | Corrodias | and that's the one. okay, buff frame ones, then. |
| 18:22.44 | Corrodias | discord unit frames also allows you to move the buffs around, plus some other unit frames mods may |
| 18:23.00 | cogwheel | ctmod has a buff mod too |
| 18:23.01 | Seracht | discord does? |
| 18:23.07 | Seracht | I need to move my own buffs though |
| 18:23.10 | Seracht | not targets/parties |
| 18:23.21 | Cairenn | ct, gypsy, discord, stand-alones |
| 18:23.21 | Corrodias | indeed, that's what i mean. |
| 18:25.44 | Shadowed | krka: Does MapLibrary not work inside a battleground? |
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| 18:27.45 | krka | nope, it doesnt :/ |
| 18:27.58 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 18:28.05 | Shadowed | well that sucks :( |
| 18:28.13 | Seracht | quick question, can you resize in CT buffmod |
| 18:28.16 | krka | you could make a spinoff that worked in battleground though |
| 18:28.27 | krka | one calibration per battleground i think |
| 18:28.35 | Shadowed | how would you work out the calibration? |
| 18:28.46 | krka | i used mage blink to do it |
| 18:28.59 | krka | one blink on a plain surface with no obstacles is always 20 yards |
| 18:29.08 | krka | so just check the coordinates before and after |
| 18:29.46 | Shadowed | that'll be a bit hard since i don't have a mage :p |
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| 18:33.23 | Shadowed | aha! i do |
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| 18:34.59 | Mikk | Seracht / Corrodias: Yes they can, if someone has found a bug in the unpacker. And this isn't rar specific; it goes for any file format. Conceivably, there could even be a bug in the .toc file parser that allows executing of arbitrary code. |
| 18:35.18 | Mikk | But from standard parameters in the file format? No. |
| 18:35.29 | Mikk | ~wiki buffer overrun |
| 18:35.34 | Mikk | ~wiki stack smashing |
| 18:36.41 | Mikk | The good thing is that WoW users aren't _that_ likely to be target of 0-day attacks. There's bigger fish to fry for the most part. |
| 18:38.01 | Mikk | http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/9758 <- buffer overrun in winzip up to 8.1, for example. you're still vulnerable if you're using old versions. |
| 18:38.36 | Mikk | http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/6664 <- buffer overrun in winrar up to 3.1 |
| 18:40.03 | Mikk | Or, for the hell of it, exploit vulnerabililties in .jpg or .gif viewers. Modern windows versions parse them if you even mouse over them to display nice user friendly tooltips. |
| 18:40.20 | Mikk | In short: Patch early, patch often =) |
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| 18:52.07 | JoshBorke | when a nested table references the containing table, what is that called? |
| 18:53.09 | krka | a cycle |
| 18:53.19 | JoshBorke | SavedVariables don't save cycles :( |
| 18:53.37 | krka | that's why you should use my almighty serializer :) |
| 18:54.11 | JoshBorke | i should really get my mods out of beta... |
| 18:55.34 | JoshBorke | krka: how would that help? |
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| 19:00.46 | Iriel | JoshBorke: Sometimes it's referred to as "self-referential tables" |
| 19:03.27 | krka | JoshBorke: because my serializer properly handles them |
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| 19:13.12 | krka | http://kristofer.no-ip.info:8080/~krka/lua/serialize.lua |
| 19:14.18 | JoshBorke | timed out |
| 19:14.38 | krka | hm |
| 19:15.28 | JoshBorke | well, self-referential tables don't get properly saved |
| 19:15.55 | krka | yes, and one solution is to save them as strings instead |
| 19:17.16 | JoshBorke | i see |
| 19:21.03 | Shadowed | hmm |
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| 19:29.42 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:30.22 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 19:31.02 | Amro | hey |
| 19:37.24 | Kirkburn_ | I can't find a nice keyboard to buy :( I just want a wireless, quiet, and perhaps backlit one |
| 19:38.13 | JoshBorke | get a happy hacker :-D |
| 19:38.21 | Amro | it took me forever to find a QWERTY here |
| 19:38.39 | Kirkburn_ | They all come as desktop sets - I've alreayd got a nice mouse :/ |
| 19:38.50 | Kirkburn_ | What's a happy hacker, he asks? |
| 19:39.47 | JoshBorke | it doesn't fit any of your requirements ;-) |
| 19:40.05 | Kirkburn_ | :P |
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| 19:47.11 | javanewbie | hello, just switched to Fubar, but my toons info is dead center in the middle of the screen. how can i click grab and move it to the upperleft? |
| 19:47.29 | javanewbie | or is there an TFM for me to R? |
| 19:48.57 | cogwheel | the default fubar install should have a panel at the top and bottom of the screen... |
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| 19:50.23 | ckknight | javanewbie: you should be able to click and drag it. |
| 19:50.26 | javanewbie | yes the panel with the plug-ins is indeed at the top and bottom, but my characters name that in default wow interface is dead center of the screen. i'd like to move it |
| 19:50.32 | ckknight | alternatively, right-click it and attach to top |
| 19:50.40 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:50.41 | ckknight | um |
| 19:50.44 | ckknight | character's name? |
| 19:50.46 | javanewbie | tried left click, right click, ctrl-left etc no go |
| 19:51.07 | javanewbie | oh CK! hi, was shown your UI and had to jump to it. |
| 19:51.32 | javanewbie | watched someone at work from the east coast (there for training) and he was nice enough to show me |
| 19:52.22 | ckknight | k |
| 19:52.30 | ckknight | brb |
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| 21:42.10 | Cairenn | quiet day, everyone sleeping? |
| 21:45.59 | Cairenn | night mikma |
| 21:49.55 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 21:51.07 | kaso| | we wiped :< shame, double loot would be nice |
| 21:52.32 | zenzelezz | my guild is currently trying to learn/manage the C'thun phase 2 fight, but we have quite a few people eager to do Ouro |
| 21:53.00 | Cide | c'thun is infinitely more fun than ouro, with better loot |
| 21:54.28 | kaso| | Ouro seems a fair bit easier though, or at least, in one night we've made better progress than we have on serveral on C'Thun |
| 21:56.51 | zenzelezz | we're starting to get the hang of phase 1... but still drop like flies in phase 2 |
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| 22:45.11 | grr | Hmm heya.. teh "OnShow" event handler? Is that when :Show() is called or when the frame turns visible to the user? |
| 22:59.22 | Maldivia | when it turns visible |
| 23:18.45 | Tuller | Invalid key for 'next', such a nice error |
| 23:19.51 | grr | Tuller: You are probably trying to modify a table while you are looping it :) |
| 23:20.18 | grr | Btw, is it worth splitting your addon in several files so it's easier to manage or does it slow down loading times? |
| 23:21.37 | ckknight | loading times wouldn't change |
| 23:21.40 | ckknight | since it's the same amount of code |
| 23:21.50 | ckknight | Tuller: I've dealt with that |
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| 23:36.47 | Tuller | _ ended up being the bad thing |
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| 23:56.17 | grr | "OnLoad" is that called for every frame when it is created |
| 23:56.28 | grr | or just when you login/load your UI? |
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| 23:59.45 | cogwheel | anyway, i was gonna say that i doubt MS will support the evaluation builds past the release of vista (like security updates and such) |
