| 00:01.14 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: Iriel = http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Flickering |
| 00:01.27 | Cairenn | (just for info) |
| 00:01.42 | Kirkburn | Done :) |
| 00:02.36 | Kirkburn | I assume many have seen this by now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hfK3RQs2g |
| 00:03.01 | Kirkburn | (Cameron Sandler, guy addicted to WoW, stupid report by stupid reporters) |
| 00:04.45 | Kirkburn | "Oooh, look, I'm an incompetent parent!" |
| 00:05.41 | Kirkburn | I've already had to delete pages about him on the wiki three times :/ |
| 00:07.45 | Cairenn | if Mom thinks he has that serious a problem, then why isn't she doing something about it? |
| 00:08.20 | Iriel | kirkburn: Deadlykris |
| 00:08.28 | Iriel | who keeps posting in my forum *grr* |
| 00:08.28 | Kirkburn | CS forum? |
| 00:08.34 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:08.49 | Cairenn | Iriel: yeah, and I've been really impressed with his last couple posts ... not |
| 00:09.21 | Iriel | I'm only bitter because my MVP invite asked me not to post in other forums. I dont mind him posting I just hate seeing inconstency. |
| 00:09.45 | Cairenn | have you *seen* his last couple? |
| 00:10.20 | Iriel | I saw his loot one, it was somewhat factually off. |
| 00:12.39 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31013496&sid=1 |
| 00:12.41 | Qzot | Good night, people. |
| 00:12.42 | Kaso | (Kirkburn) I've already had to delete pages about him on the wiki three times :/ -- i got in there first with a {speedydelete} :> |
| 00:12.53 | Kirkburn | hehe, you did indeed :P |
| 00:13.04 | Kirkburn | G'night Qzot |
| 00:13.07 | Cairenn | night Qzot |
| 00:13.15 | Qzot | I wonder how many megahurts my commuter is today...? |
| 00:14.31 | Kaso | So, i had to leave half way though a conversation, did anything more come of the "Gello - HideBlueNameplates" discussion? |
| 00:15.26 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, argh at that link |
| 00:15.35 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31183213&postId=310809035&sid=1#8 |
| 00:16.00 | Kirkburn | What is it with bandwagons? Seriously? Someone needs to go around removing wheels |
| 00:16.20 | Cairenn | a MVP should know better than to post either of those |
| 00:17.08 | Kirkburn | That was a silly thing to say (and I don't believe the LoS thing anyway) |
| 00:17.43 | Kaso | yah, i was confused by the LoS thing |
| 00:17.45 | Cairenn | silly? it almost comes across as condoning it |
| 00:18.27 | Cairenn | I know that I'd like to smack him for those two, at the very least |
| 00:18.39 | Kaso | for some reason i assumed it was Iriel when i first read that, i guess it's ingrained that MVP + UI & Macros forum = Iriel |
| 00:19.28 | Cairenn | yeah, same here ... I blinked and had to look twice because I couldn't see Iriel posting either of those |
| 00:19.39 | Kirkburn | I miss the "Iriel must be a girl" avatar :( |
| 00:19.41 | Cairenn | I'm sitting here going "huh?!" |
| 00:20.22 | Kirkburn | Looking at his other posts, I don't see reasons why he's an MVP, but it's hard to tell what with him being a CS guy |
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| 00:21.52 | Kaso | So, i dont really get the whole MVP thing, being from EU, other than iriel, what do these people do to justify a cool avatar |
| 00:22.08 | zenzelezz | hawt cyb0r |
| 00:22.35 | zenzelezz | other than that I don't know |
| 00:25.31 | Plorkyeran | They post a lot without posting complete garbage |
| 00:25.44 | cladhaire | they're right, more often than not. |
| 00:26.49 | Kirkburn | The idea is is that Blizz recognises that they post helpfully and it's a tag to show this appreciation and to show others that they are trusted to a certain extent :) |
| 00:27.04 | Kirkburn | (trusted and trustable) |
| 00:27.48 | Iriel | Plus we eat trolls |
| 00:27.57 | Iriel | which is a valuable service |
| 00:28.07 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:29.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there any way to tell what addons are using certain amounts of memory? |
| 00:29.32 | [floyd] | Thou shalt not eat Trolls! |
| 00:29.35 | Kaso | sorta |
| 00:29.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know you can tell how much all the addons are using, but is there a way to tell exactly what is making my UI memory ~100 MB or so? |
| 00:30.14 | Kaso | check out Warmup |
| 00:30.20 | Kaso | it isnt perfect but its pretty accurate |
| 00:30.21 | Mikk | But still, that's jsut load time |
| 00:30.22 | Kirkburn | One that stores data |
| 00:31.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i know lootlink and auctioneer are contributing, but even when i reset them my mem usage was like 75 or so |
| 00:31.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | those are the only 2 that i use that store huge amounts of info as far as i can tell |
| 00:32.08 | Kirkburn | How many addons do you use? |
| 00:32.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | uhh |
| 00:32.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | a ton |
| 00:32.28 | Kirkburn | I think a thousand is pushing it ;) |
| 00:32.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | a decent percentage of Cosmos' and a bunch of random ones |
| 00:33.03 | Kaso | *nerd jokes* ! |
| 00:34.19 | Kirkburn | Nerd jokes are the best :P |
| 00:34.23 | Plorkyeran | Addons don't nessesarly weigh a pound each :P |
| 00:34.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | or 2, in the case of "a ton" |
| 00:34.55 | Kirkburn | A 'ton' still can mean 1000 over here (UK) :) |
| 00:35.38 | Kirkburn | Back to the problem - my suggestion is to turn off several at a time and see whether it falls drastically |
| 00:35.50 | Kirkburn | You could search your WTF folder for the largest files? |
| 00:35.54 | Kaso | fuck, i hate tabbing in to find myself at 500hp and some mob attacking me :< |
| 00:36.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | you and your crazy metric system and your two story buses |
| 00:36.06 | Kirkburn | Something like Mobhealth might be contributing |
| 00:36.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | and your...your tea |
| 00:36.13 | Kirkburn | mmm, tea |
| 00:36.30 | Plorkyeran | Sorting your savedvariables dir by file size can reveal useful things |
| 00:36.37 | Kirkburn | Blame the french revolution for the metric system :) |
| 00:36.48 | Plorkyeran | I discovered that my Recap SV file was 5 megs and that was probably why my load times sucked :P |
| 00:36.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i prefer it, personally |
| 00:37.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it would just be more chaos than it was worth to transfer |
| 00:37.26 | Kirkburn | I've never learnt the imperial system, and I find it crazy that we still insist on miles on our road system |
| 00:37.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | we tried once, i think in the seventies, and it was chaos |
| 00:37.57 | Kirkburn | Where are we talking about here, Mr_Rabies? |
| 00:38.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | US |
| 00:38.33 | Kirkburn | I guess the country is too large to cope with it |
| 00:38.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 00:38.43 | Kaso | metric does make tonnes more sense, as someone part was through a physics degree i shudder to think how american scientists cope. |
| 00:38.45 | Kirkburn | (and some of the people too conservative) |
| 00:38.56 | Plorkyeran | American scientists use metric |
| 00:39.04 | Kirkburn | Plorkyeran, not all, not all |
| 00:39.08 | [floyd] | The US will probably adopt gen-tech'ed 12 fingers before switching to metric system ;P |
| 00:39.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it worked when you guys transferred because there's much less land and stuff |
| 00:39.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | having to change every sign to metric would be chaos for a looong time |
| 00:39.50 | Kirkburn | The sensible ones use metric, but there are many parts of science that still have to use imperial due to 'history' |
| 00:39.55 | Plorkyeran | The benefits are fairly minor for the work it'd be to convert |
| 00:40.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 00:40.17 | Kirkburn | Except when it causes space rockets to explode, of course |
| 00:40.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't do it in realtime, except maybe Km-mi |
| 00:40.29 | [floyd] | The hubble telescope wouldn't have cost a ton to fix though. |
| 00:41.05 | Kirkburn | In US schools, is imperial measurement taught to any great extent? |
| 00:41.22 | Xuerian | As a conversion. |
| 00:41.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | and in science |
| 00:41.47 | Kirkburn | Do exams ever use it (in a non-conversion question)? |
| 00:42.01 | ckknight | standardly. |
| 00:42.11 | Plorkyeran | My math classes generally use imperial |
| 00:42.12 | Kirkburn | Blimey |
| 00:42.15 | ckknight | gravity is 32 ft/s^2 and that's how we like it |
| 00:42.22 | Kirkburn | It's just so strange for me |
| 00:42.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | imperial is the modified metric, right? gah it's been a while since i've really thought about it |
| 00:42.30 | Kirkburn | 9.81 m/s^2 |
| 00:42.31 | ckknight | no, mr_Rabies |
| 00:42.37 | Plorkyeran | My calculus teacher insisted on imperial just to piss off the physics teacher |
| 00:42.54 | Kirkburn | Metric is base 10, imperial is base "whatever you want today" |
| 00:43.00 | ckknight | typically base 12, though. |
| 00:43.06 | Kirkburn | =) indeed |
| 00:43.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh imperial is what the US uses, blargh i can't remember |
| 00:43.15 | ckknight | which makes fractions easier |
| 00:43.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah we use imperial for like everything except science and some math |
| 00:43.31 | Kirkburn | base 12 makes fractions easier? |
| 00:43.32 | Plorkyeran | Base 12 is a better base in a lot of ways except for that our numbers are base 10 |
| 00:43.46 | ckknight | cause you typically don't deal with 1/3 m, but dealing with 1/3 ft is just 4 inches |
| 00:43.56 | Plorkyeran | Evenly divisable by 2, 3, 4 and 6 instead of just 2 and 5 |
| 00:43.58 | ckknight | 1/3 m = 33.3333 cm |
| 00:44.05 | Kirkburn | I'll just say - it's easier if you've been brought up with it. I cannot comprehend imperial myself |
| 00:44.14 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 00:44.19 | ckknight | I understand both measurements |
| 00:44.21 | Plorkyeran | It's not even easier if you've been brought up with it :P |
| 00:44.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can deal with both pretty well, but i loved science in school |
| 00:44.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | just no conversion in realtime except km - mi in some extents |
| 00:45.07 | Kirkburn | If anyone here _didn't_ like science at school, i'd be surprised :P |
| 00:45.20 | ckknight | Kirkburn, I'm a math person, not a science person |
| 00:45.21 | ckknight | really |
| 00:45.25 | ckknight | though science was okay |
| 00:45.26 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:45.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate math |
| 00:45.37 | Kirkburn | Science and maths is pretty damn close anyway :P |
| 00:45.44 | Plorkyeran | I was never a fan of science |
| 00:45.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm okay at math, i just hate doing it |
| 00:45.47 | Kirkburn | Maths, not math ;) grrrr |
| 00:45.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's too much work for the effort |
| 00:45.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 00:46.01 | ckknight | CSCI is just math's crossdressing brother and you know it |
| 00:46.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | too much work for the outcome |
| 00:46.09 | ckknight | it's really math deep down inside. |
| 00:46.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | doing math is like healbotting in raids |
| 00:46.17 | ckknight | even though it's called science |
| 00:46.35 | Kirkburn | I'm going to have to put word replacement on, aren't I, so I stop seeing you say "math" :P |
| 00:46.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | or eating lobster |
| 00:46.49 | Hexarobi | everything is math deep down |
| 00:47.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom is math deep down |
| 00:47.05 | ckknight | true, Hexarobi, but CSCI is closer than most other sciences |
| 00:47.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahh barrens chat flashback |
| 00:47.11 | Hexarobi | urmom^2 |
| 00:47.13 | ckknight | math can be fun ;-) |
| 00:47.23 | Kirkburn | ur mom is a barrens chat flashback! lolz! |
| 00:47.25 | Hexarobi | i integrated yer mom's derivative |
| 00:47.36 | Hexarobi | and jesus is my cosine |
| 00:47.59 | Cairenn | "math" |
| 00:48.09 | Kirkburn | Dammit, I can't hit a girl! |
| 00:48.19 | Kirkburn | :*( |
| 00:48.22 | zenzelezz | but you do hit like a girl |
| 00:48.41 | Kirkburn | um |
| 00:48.44 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 00:48.52 | Kirkburn | Let's just pretend I threw is at zenzelezz, not myself |
| 00:48.56 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 00:48.59 | Kirkburn | *it |
| 00:49.05 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:49.32 | Kirkburn | *ssssh, act dead, zenzelezz!* |
| 00:49.42 | zenzelezz | braaaaaains |
| 00:49.52 | Kirkburn | *I'll just, er, run to the doctor, eh?* |
| 00:50.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | maths just seems like improper grammar |
| 00:50.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | kinda like "an history" |
| 00:50.14 | Kirkburn | C'mon, it's mathematicS not mathematic :) |
| 00:50.35 | Hexarobi | and computers are really logic gates at the lowest level, not math |
| 01:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | my computer is an illogic gate |
| 01:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it does things like equip my rune of metamorphosis when i setup a pvp gear set in wardrobe |
| 01:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | when the rune isn't part of any of my gear sets @_@ |
| 01:01.46 | Hexarobi | thats not a bug, thats random cosmic radiation effecting the state of the logic gate |
| 01:01.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you blaming this on cosmos? :P |
| 01:01.46 | Kirkburn | How many degrees are there in a circle? (this is me seeing if anyone learns it differently) |
| 01:01.46 | Hexarobi | it came from the sky |
| 01:01.46 | Hexarobi | 360 =p |
| 01:01.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | 360 or 0 :o |
| 01:01.46 | Kirkburn | Well that's okay then :) 400 is sometimes taught |
| 01:01.46 | Hexarobi | how many fags can you fit in a boot? |
| 01:01.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that would depend on which definition you use |
| 01:01.47 | Kirkburn | (once again, blame the french revolution - it's one of the ideas that failed to catch on) |
| 01:01.47 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies2, and also on how much they complain? \o/ |
| 01:01.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you use the common us definition of "fag" i guess, one maybe, or just his foot? |
| 01:01.47 | Kirkburn | The common UK one is cigarette |
| 01:01.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know :P |
| 01:01.48 | Kirkburn | And then there's the word 'fanny'. Quite a different meaning here ... |
| 01:01.48 | Hexarobi | it doesnt mean someone who is a fan of something? |
| 01:01.48 | Kirkburn | yeah, er ... no |
| 01:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1 slang British : VULVA |
| 01:01.48 | Cairenn | Hexarobi: I don't think you can fit much wood into a boot |
| 01:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say very different |
| 01:01.48 | Kirkburn | Tell an unworldly english woman to sit on her fanny, and you'll get a slap |
| 01:01.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll definitely keep that in mind if i ever cross the pond |
| 01:01.49 | Kirkburn | You can tell people to sit on their bum, though |
| 01:01.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't say that here because you might have some very angry vagrants |
| 01:01.49 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 01:01.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | or very happy, depending on the particular vagrant and person doing the sitting |
| 01:01.49 | Kirkburn | And round goes the wonderful world of words :P |
| 01:01.50 | Hexarobi | do you have a flate mate? |
| 01:01.50 | Hexarobi | flat* |
| 01:01.50 | Kirkburn | Nah, he's kind of rotund I'd say |
| 01:01.50 | Hexarobi | was supposed to be a big breasted wife ;) |
| 01:01.50 | Hexarobi | or i guess thatd be small-boobed |
| 01:01.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man these combat quests in silithus make me want to kill someone |
| 01:01.50 | Kirkburn | I have 3, and it annoys me I can't really translate it into many EU languages easily) |
| 01:01.50 | Hexarobi | at least you can translate it into eu currency |
| 01:01.50 | Kirkburn | "I live with 3 other people who are my guests-who-live-in-my-flat-with-me" |
| 01:01.51 | Hexarobi | freeloaders? |
| 01:01.51 | Hexarobi | carpet baggers? |
| 01:01.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | just substitute a word that makes absolutely no sense in that sentence |
| 01:01.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, tree |
| 01:01.51 | Hexarobi | rotundus annoyus roomatus? |
| 01:01.51 | Kirkburn | Haha, you gotta visit here, on that subject: http://www.keepersoflists.org/index.php?lid=1906 |
| 01:01.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh one hour |
| 01:01.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | till south park |
| 01:01.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 01:01.52 | Kirkburn | ("Top 211 Star Wars Lines Improved By Replacing A Word With "Pants"") |
| 01:01.52 | Hexarobi | oy had to go turn off lost on my tivo |
| 01:01.52 | Hexarobi | a new chick stuck in a new habitat! |
| 01:01.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | that reminds me of someone replacing every occurance of "wand" with "wang" in harry potter |
| 01:01.52 | Kirkburn | "Chewie and me got into a lot of pants more heavily guarded than this." |
| 01:01.52 | Hexarobi | it's a pants! |
| 01:01.59 | Kirkburn | "Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your pants." |
| 01:02.03 | Hexarobi | i find your lack of pants disturbing |
| 01:02.12 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 01:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | <JonJonB> "Why aren't you supposed to do magic?" asked Harry. |
| 01:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | <JonJonB> "Oh, well -- I was at Hogwarts meself but I -- er -- got expelled, ter tell yeh the truth. In me third year. They snapped me wang in half an' everything |
| 01:02.36 | Hexarobi | hehe |
| 01:02.36 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 01:02.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://bash.org/?111338 |
| 01:02.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh bash.org |
| 01:03.50 | Hexarobi | my first job was fixing binary load lifters.... very similiar to your pants... in most respects |
| 01:04.41 | zenzelezz | the obvious one would be "The pants will be with you, always" |
| 01:05.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | I seek an audience with your greatness to bargain for Solo's pants |
| 01:06.08 | Hexarobi | Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerous ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebel's hidden pant-- |
| 01:06.37 | zenzelezz | hm, I remember a similar list... |
| 01:07.43 | Osagasu | Nether Whelp? |
| 01:07.44 | Osagasu | aww |
| 01:07.46 | Osagasu | I want one |
| 01:08.43 | zenzelezz | probably stolen from somewhere else: http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=83760 -- "Top 10 Sexually Suggestive Lines of the Star Wars Trilogy" |
| 01:10.10 | Hexarobi | "Grab me, Chewie. I'm slipping-hold on. Grab it, almost...you almost got it. Gently now, all right, easy, easy, hold me Chewie." |
| 01:10.11 | Hexarobi | moce |
| 01:10.12 | Hexarobi | nice |
| 01:12.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=6A0rwG39Jzk <--this is awesome, scenes from starwars with audio from JEJ's other movies dubbed in |
| 01:13.31 | Kirkburn | Osagasu, you only need buy the CE :P |
| 01:14.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing the CE will be 30 bucks |
| 01:14.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | er 40 |
| 01:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the regular, 30 |
| 01:22.32 | Kirkburn | Oh. My. God. Okay, some people are going to scream at this |
| 01:22.44 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure I should even mention it |
| 01:23.08 | Kirkburn | Let's just say some addons and macros may be completely buggered come the expansion |
| 01:23.31 | Kirkburn | Ones like Decursive, Panza, etc ... |
| 01:25.07 | Kirkburn | nvm me |
| 01:25.14 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 01:25.24 | dreyruugr | what makes you say that? |
| 01:25.30 | Kaso | ^_- |
| 01:25.33 | Kaso | im intersted |
| 01:25.33 | cladhaire | i like cheese |
| 01:25.52 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 01:26.20 | Kirkburn | Cheese is nice |
| 01:26.37 | Xuerian | Cheeze without buff/debuff detection.... |
| 01:26.45 | Kirkburn | mm, cheese |
| 01:26.49 | Xuerian | That could be interesting. |
| 01:27.03 | Kaso | Kirkburn i demand you explain your statement! otherwise, i'll, i'll cry! |
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| 01:28.12 | Kirkburn | I like cheese |
| 01:28.59 | Hexarobi | ur mom likes my cheese |
| 01:29.06 | Hexarobi | j'aime le fromage |
| 01:29.12 | Kirkburn | Red leicester is nice |
| 01:29.28 | Kaso | Magritte painted below the pipe, This is not a pipe (Ceci n'est pas une pipe), which seems a contradiction, but is actually true: the painting is not a pipe ... |
| 01:29.28 | Kaso | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_Of_Images - 13k - Cached - Similar pages |
| 01:29.37 | Kaso | fuck you copy paste! |
| 01:29.41 | Industrial | Will I get raped in battlegrounds at level 51? |
| 01:29.44 | Kaso | i always do that |
| 01:30.15 | [floyd] | I believe there's no sex in WoW ;) |
| 01:30.16 | Tem | Indie, yes, lol, you will |
| 01:31.50 | Industrial | ;\ |
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| 02:00.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | time to watch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Love%2C_Not_Warcraft get updated in realtime :D |
| 02:00.51 | Kaso | hmm, im not sure if anyone anyone tested eariler, but the Raidtarget icon isnt tied to the Nameplate. |
| 02:10.48 | chuckg | Anyone here use Opera |
| 02:10.49 | chuckg | ? |
| 02:11.40 | Plorkyeran | I do |
| 02:17.04 | chuckg | Just wondering if anyone has run into the favicon "creep", but I just found a huge thread about it. |
| 02:17.07 | chuckg | http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=144884&page=2&skip=50&show=&perscreen=50 |
| 02:17.38 | Plorkyeran | Yeah, that bug is pretty funny |
| 02:17.55 | Plorkyeran | It's been happening ever since they implemented favicons, too |
| 02:19.17 | chuckg | Kills me. |
| 02:19.40 | chuckg | I can have a bookmark to wowace.com w/ the right icon, but a bookmark to www.wowace.com and have it be blank or wrong. |
| 02:19.49 | chuckg | Or wowace.com/forums/ and completely different fomr the other two. |
| 02:31.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that was interesting |
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| 02:48.15 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.16 | Kirov | ? |
| 02:51.43 | Cairenn | dumbass who got himself banned from WoWI, trying to see if he can't stir up drama in here |
| 02:51.47 | Cairenn | I'm just ignoring him |
| 02:52.02 | Cairenn | until he *does* something |
| 02:52.47 | Cairenn | right now he's joining, hoping I'll magically realize who it is (like I don't know) and ban him so he can then try to hack his way back into the channel and make a complete annoyance of himself |
| 02:53.20 | zenzelezz | sounds fun |
| 02:53.27 | zenzelezz | what did he do to get banned? |
| 02:54.05 | Cairenn | just being a jerk |
| 02:54.27 | Cairenn | sent him a number of PMs asking him to behave, he chose not to, he got his ass banned |
| 02:55.06 | Cairenn | pardon my english tonight, I'm too tired to care, so I'm just saying stuff flat out |
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| 03:54.43 | zenzelezz | heh, just discovered I can pick up food and drop it on my pet instead of first selecting the Feed action :) |
| 03:54.51 | Kirov | just? |
| 03:55.01 | zenzelezz | as in "not until now" |
| 03:55.27 | Kirov | I don't even use the pet feed spell, heh |
| 03:55.36 | Kirov | Didn't know it existed for a while. |
| 03:56.00 | zenzelezz | I have a tendency to scan my spell book on new chars =) (the few times I make them) |
| 03:56.20 | zenzelezz | granted I haven't played a hunter for long in terms of days/weeks, I'm 44 now |
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| 03:57.22 | zenzelezz | discovered the feeding thing when I was trying to delete some junk I looted |
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| 03:59.44 | Kirkburn | .... and here's a gorgeous little kitten playing the piano :) http://www.funnyanimalblog.com/index.php/funny-cat-videos/kitten-composer/ |
| 04:02.35 | Kirkburn | Oooh, this is a funky "new" search engine: http://www.searchmash.com/ |
| 04:02.51 | Kirkburn | New is in inverted comma because it's actually Google testing new ideas |
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| 04:19.34 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 04:19.46 | zenzelezz | night |
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| 05:11.43 | Dhraga | Morning all |
| 05:12.57 | zenzelezz | heya |
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| 06:24.53 | krka | Cairenn|sleep: pong! |
| 06:27.33 | krka | 12 hour ping time for me... not bad |
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| 06:31.53 | AnduinLothar | anyone used Tekkub's PeriodicTable before? |
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| 06:40.16 | fox689 | Hello all |
| 06:40.21 | Kirov_ | hello |
| 06:40.54 | fox689 | I have a question about anchoring things. |
| 06:41.01 | Kirov_ | sure |
| 06:41.47 | fox689 | I want to anchor the tooltip, and other status messages to the WorldFrame instead of UIParent. how do I access those to do that? |
| 06:44.19 | fox689 | I've been searching forums for the past 3 hrs for info on that, and came up with nothing so far. |
| 06:44.35 | Kirov_ | You'll need to overwrite a function. |
| 06:45.59 | Corrodias | whatever way you do it, it has to be easier than java |
| 06:46.12 | fox689 | alright. can you point me in the right direction to figure out how to do that. I'm as newbie to modding as it comes. I understand the script that I'm looking at enough to edit it, but as far as writing my own, I haven't tried that yet. |
| 06:46.15 | fox689 | haha, I second that |
| 06:47.34 | Corrodias | we're making our little gui program pretty cute, but we spent hours trying to figure out how to draw things, even after figuring out how to get things arranged on the window how we want... and that's -with- a graphical gui designer. |
| 06:48.10 | Kirov_ | http://wowi.pastey.net/1356 |
| 06:48.15 | Kirov_ | fox - try that |
| 06:48.28 | fox689 | oh yay. Yeah, I've dabbled in Java GUI. it ain't fun |
| 06:51.06 | fox689 | thanks! |
| 06:52.02 | fox689 | alright. So where can I go to know all the frames that are floating around on the screen? |
| 06:52.17 | Kirov_ | which ones? |
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| 06:53.42 | fox689 | this is pretty much what I've done. I've got my WorldFrame smaller than UIParent. I want everything else to line up with WorldFrame so it's centered around my character again. Stuff like battleground notifications, game errors, and the like. |
| 06:56.38 | Kirov_ | Ah, that's a bit more work |
| 06:57.11 | fox689 | yeah, I just want pointed in the right direction so I can do it. But I don't know the names of anything. |
| 06:57.28 | Kirov_ | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 06:57.57 | Kirov_ | you'll have to look at the UIParent.xml in there to see what the name of all the frames are |
| 06:58.11 | fox689 | yay, thanks a bunch |
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| 07:05.04 | krka | hmm... can we access the minimap dots in some way these days? |
| 07:09.30 | Mikma | krka: yeah http://wow.reaktio.net/Mikma .. |
| 07:18.30 | Corrodias | what the hell is going on here... |
| 07:18.37 | fox689 | ? |
| 07:18.50 | Corrodias | my basicexperiencebar is no longer correctly loading the default bar markers texture even though it's in there just like all the others |
| 07:19.06 | fox689 | interesting |
| 07:20.59 | fox689 | I've wished several times that I could have like AIM or another messenger service show up in my chatframe |
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| 07:23.39 | krka | Mikma: doesn't that mean you can access the coordinates of the objects? |
| 07:23.47 | krka | and thus, have distancing in raids? |
| 07:29.18 | Corrodias | it's like WoW can no longer load this texture like it used to be able to |
| 07:29.19 | Mikma | krka: no idea :D |
| 07:29.19 | Corrodias | as of the... 26th or 27th of last month |
| 07:29.19 | Corrodias | which corresponds to the patch of 1.12.1 |
| 07:29.19 | fox689 | mine still works |
| 07:29.19 | Corrodias | what, you use BasicExperienceBar? |
| 07:29.19 | fox689 | yep |
| 07:29.19 | krka | i meant like if you could find the actual dot-objects from Minimap:GetChildren or something |
| 07:29.20 | Corrodias | the texture to which i refer is BEB-ExperienceBarMarkers.tga |
| 07:29.20 | Corrodias | i believe in the options dropdown it's called "default bar markers" or something |
| 07:29.20 | Mikma | krka: dunno, i only have tried to mod the dots from graphics |
| 07:29.20 | krka | try it! |
| 07:29.20 | Mikma | but whyyyyy? :( |
| 07:29.20 | krka | would be interesting to extract blip-positions |
| 07:29.21 | krka | mostly for raids inside instances, to figure out heal-ranges et.c. |
| 07:29.21 | Mikma | krka: point the job to.. Iriel :D |
| 07:29.21 | fox689 | hmm... |
| 07:29.32 | krka | could even have a compass thingy, next to each player in raid |
| 07:29.42 | krka | so you'd know which way you had to move to reach him/her |
| 07:30.07 | AnduinLothar | wtf... why is filefront hosting my addons |
| 07:30.26 | Mikma | that's one interesing idea but would require you to target the person. clickcasting <3 |
| 07:30.46 | AnduinLothar | http://browse.files.filefront.com/Modifications/;1323974;/browsefiles.html |
| 07:30.58 | krka | not really Mikma |
| 07:31.08 | krka | why would you need to target? |
| 07:32.07 | Mikma | krka: well ain't that a logic way of finding out where to move? :D target someone and know "oh he's there, i need to move closer" |
| 07:32.51 | krka | you don't need to target, all raid members are on minimap anyway |
| 07:33.47 | krka | could someone test iterating through all the children of Minimap to see what you get? |
| 07:34.02 | Mikma | krka: but then how can the addon know which one to show on the "radar"? :) |
| 07:34.19 | Iriel | Sleepy time |
| 07:34.33 | krka | not sure you understand what i mean |
| 07:35.30 | krka | 1) all raid / party is visible as dots on the minimap |
| 07:35.53 | krka | 2) if we can figure out the location of the dots, we can multiply by scale factor to know distance and direction from us |
| 07:36.10 | krka | 3) this could be presented, so a healer knows which members would be affected by a group buff |
| 07:36.19 | Mikma | krka: so you mean a radar to display all targets at once? |
| 07:36.24 | Mikma | targets=blips |
| 07:36.40 | krka | no |
| 07:36.45 | krka | never said anything about a radar |
| 07:37.21 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.00 | krka | that's not the important thing, the important thing is knowing if we can get the info or not |
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| 07:39.57 | Corrodias | why would WoW be unable to load this silly texture? it hasn't changed since before 1.12.1! |
| 07:40.09 | Mikma | krka: well to be honest i realyl think you can do it alot better than me anyway :D |
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| 07:43.53 | [Ammo] | krka: you can get the info outside instances |
| 07:43.57 | [Ammo] | krka: but not inside |
| 07:45.22 | [Ammo] | as for the rardar blips you should be able to get those, and get the minimap zoomlevel, and calculate a rough coordinate |
| 07:45.56 | [Ammo] | but it would require quite some communication to constantly broadcast those cordinate |
| 07:45.58 | Corrodias | how... how do i "fix" a .tga that WoW can't load as of 1.12.1? >_> |
| 07:49.26 | krka | can anyone test this for me? from luaslinger or whatever: http://wow.pastey.net/1357 |
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| 07:53.05 | Corrodias | what's it supposed to do, now? i haven't been following along |
| 07:53.29 | krka | it's just supposed to check what objects are available from minimap |
| 07:53.53 | krka | oh, and you might want to have some sort of dot on the minimap before testing |
| 07:54.00 | krka | because that's what i am trying to find |
| 07:54.31 | Corrodias | got a huge bunch of stuff, including a lot of texture: <unknown>s |
| 07:55.09 | krka | w00t, so it actually ran? |
| 07:55.13 | krka | cool stuff |
| 07:55.28 | Corrodias | unfortunately this character cannot get a dot |
| 07:55.40 | krka | why not? |
| 07:55.54 | krka | join a party should get you a dot :P |
| 07:55.56 | Corrodias | he's a level 5 warrior far away from available questgivers |
| 07:56.03 | krka | ah i see |
| 07:56.23 | Corrodias | trying to figure out this mysterious texture problem |
| 07:57.18 | krka | hm... maybe i should dump the result into some editbox instead |
| 07:57.21 | krka | so you can copy/paste it |
| 07:58.27 | Corrodias | and so it doesn't fill the chat buffer and i lose the first part of it :) |
| 07:58.54 | krka | yeah |
| 08:01.58 | krka | ok got a new version |
| 08:02.06 | krka | but warning, it will replace the scratchbox of LuaSlinger |
| 08:02.15 | krka | http://wow.pastey.net/1358 |
| 08:04.25 | Corrodias | sadly, it is truncated now! |
| 08:04.43 | Corrodias | but i can copy & paste it okay and it gets all of it |
| 08:04.50 | krka | cool |
| 08:04.53 | krka | pastey it? |
| 08:05.35 | Corrodias | it's pretty long, and i still don't have any dots. shall i go get a character with dots? |
| 08:05.50 | Corrodias | my main has herbalism, which should be quick to find a dot somewhere |
| 08:06.32 | Corrodias | WoW is simply... ignoring the command to load this one texture, even though all the other textures in the folder load just fine and it always used to work before 1.12.1 |
| 08:08.08 | MoonWolf | it dislikes the texture |
| 08:08.13 | MoonWolf | the colour is off :P |
| 08:09.33 | krka | yeah that's be super-nice Corrodias |
| 08:09.50 | Corrodias | how interesting |
| 08:09.52 | krka | Corrodias: is the texture path too long? |
| 08:09.59 | Corrodias | my default experience bar actually disappears on my main, who is level 60 |
| 08:10.05 | krka | i read something somewhere that if the total path is too long, it won't load |
| 08:10.19 | Corrodias | no. in fact, it loads a texture with an even longer pathname. |
| 08:10.28 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: the standard UI experience bar? |
| 08:10.34 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 08:10.42 | krka | ok, not that then |
| 08:10.51 | zenzelezz | yup, it does that unless you tell it to display a faction or something |
| 08:10.57 | zenzelezz | since you don't gain more XP anyway I guess |
| 08:11.59 | krka | hm |
| 08:12.03 | krka | have ti figure out how to accept |
| 08:12.39 | Corrodias | on mirc, you click accept |
| 08:12.49 | krka | i use irssi : |
| 08:13.19 | Mikma | krka: /sv <3 |
| 08:13.34 | krka | Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 08:13.54 | Corrodias | timeout. let me know when you figure it out. |
| 08:14.29 | krka | ok |
| 08:14.43 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.45 | krka | oops |
| 08:15.38 | Mikma | krka: /set ctcp_version_reply nIRC 69.1337 |
| 08:15.39 | krka | try now |
| 08:15.57 | krka | why Mikma? |
| 08:16.17 | Mikma | krka: to mess people up... i had people asking me "where can i find nIRC?" |
| 08:16.32 | krka | oic |
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| 08:18.16 | krka | try sending again |
| 08:18.35 | Corrodias | sending now |
| 08:20.39 | krka | dont think i'm getting anything |
| 08:20.39 | krka | weird |
| 08:20.58 | Corrodias | let me try... this |
| 08:21.23 | Mikma | ::: DCC sent file cosmos [36B] for krka in 00:00:00 [0.04kB/s] |
| 08:21.49 | Corrodias | http://137.28.242.185:28960/upload/minimap%20list.txt |
| 08:22.42 | Corrodias | oh, i'm not 200.. hang on |
| 08:22.44 | Corrodias | wrong forwarding port |
| 08:23.45 | Corrodias | try it now |
| 08:24.08 | krka | thanks, worked |
| 08:24.43 | krka | hm, the depth-thingy seems to have failed |
| 08:24.44 | Corrodias | that's with a single "mageroyal" showing on the map |
| 08:24.53 | krka | ah cool |
| 08:25.11 | Corrodias | there was some spacing in WoW that isn't present in the text, it seems |
| 08:25.23 | Corrodias | never mind. that was the last version. |
| 08:25.28 | krka | hm, could you change the string.rep(" " to use "." instead? |
| 08:25.43 | krka | only if it's not too much work, this is still useful in its current form |
| 08:26.16 | Corrodias | i don't see where you mean |
| 08:27.33 | Corrodias | found it |
| 08:27.40 | krka | cool |
| 08:27.44 | krka | almost about to paste it |
| 08:27.56 | Corrodias | redownload |
| 08:28.34 | krka | thanks!" |
| 08:29.47 | Corrodias | this texture thing is just mystifying, and very annoying |
| 08:29.59 | Corrodias | my experience bar looks like crap without the proper marker overlay |
| 08:31.24 | krka | is reciperadar an addon? |
| 08:32.10 | Corrodias | yes |
| 08:32.14 | krka | i'm guessing you have lots of minimap addons :) |
| 08:32.25 | Corrodias | i have a lot that attach buttons, yes |
| 08:32.33 | Corrodias | only a few that affect the minimap itself |
| 08:33.25 | krka | easy enough to strip out though |
| 08:37.27 | Corrodias | damn texture. i don't know what to do with it. |
| 08:37.39 | krka | checked dimensions? |
| 08:39.49 | Corrodias | all i know about it is that it worked fine in 1.12.1, and precisely on the 27th after our realm got the patch it no longer loads |
| 08:40.06 | Corrodias | it's not my texture, or my addon |
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| 08:40.41 | Corrodias | the texture is 1024x16 |
| 08:41.07 | Mery | a texture to load in WoW? |
| 08:41.44 | Corrodias | yes |
| 08:42.06 | Mery | i assume it doesn't load? (because the max size is 512 as far as I know) |
| 08:42.40 | Corrodias | it loaded back in 1.12.0, but it won't in 1.12.1. it also doesn't give me any error; it just doesn't happen when i use settexture. :( |
| 08:43.57 | Corrodias | none of the other textures in the folder are larger in any direction than 512, though. you may be on to something. |
| 08:44.07 | Corrodias | there's going to be data loss if i cut its size |
| 08:44.24 | Mery | well then you gotta have to make it 2 textures (if its your addon) |
| 08:45.07 | Corrodias | it's my addon in the sense that i have to fix it if i want to use it :( |
| 08:45.25 | Corrodias | how do you retrieve the texture being used by a frame? |
| 08:46.25 | Corrodias | GetTexture() seems nonexistant |
| 08:46.34 | Mery | Frames don't have GetTexture |
| 08:46.37 | krka | textures are children of frames |
| 08:46.37 | krka | afaik |
| 08:46.40 | Mery | only Textures do |
| 08:46.47 | Mery | and what krka said |
| 08:47.23 | Corrodias | so how do i figure out what texture is being used by the MainMenuExpBar? |
| 08:47.26 | Mery | 1.12.1 Bug Fixes |
| 08:47.26 | Mery | * Attempting to load textures beyond the maximum size (512 x 512) will no longer crash the client. |
| 08:47.42 | Mery | I assume that also killed your 1024x16 texture |
| 08:47.45 | Corrodias | it seems they "fixed" it to death :/ |
| 08:47.52 | krka | textures must be square, afaik |
| 08:48.03 | Corrodias | that is incorrect. the others are not square and they still load |
| 08:48.05 | Mery | no they don't have to be square |
| 08:48.15 | Mery | even blizzard has non square textures |
| 08:48.24 | krka | ok, then something else about your dimensions is weird |
| 08:48.40 | Mery | yeah 1024 is one power of 2 too big |
| 08:48.56 | Corrodias | i want to see what they used for the MainMenuExpBar but i'm at a loss as to how to determine that |
| 08:49.02 | Mery | well look in the xml file |
| 08:49.27 | Corrodias | that was my second thought, but i can't find it. do i have to extract it from somewhere? |
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| 08:50.12 | Mery | it doesn't have a .xml file? |
| 08:50.31 | Mery | then the frame definition is probably in one of the lua files |
| 08:50.33 | Corrodias | i don't know where to find the MainMenuExpBar's xml file, if it does |
| 08:50.52 | Mery | is that Blizzards bar? |
| 08:51.23 | Corrodias | yes |
| 08:52.57 | Mery | hmm and the addon just changes a texture on it? |
| 08:53.19 | Corrodias | no, i am curious what blizzard used for their bar |
| 08:53.48 | Corrodias | perhaps i can make use of that |
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| 08:54.30 | Mery | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/11215875/FrameXML/MainMenuBar.xml |
| 08:55.04 | Corrodias | aha, thanks |
| 08:55.22 | Mery | but I don't know how you'd need a 1024 texture if you just replace things there beside beeing lazy and having it all in 1 texture to use SetTexCoords |
| 08:57.06 | Corrodias | i think i have enough "justification", if you somehow think i need some, in the fact that i have so little experience with frames that i don't even know what SetTexCoords is. |
| 08:57.29 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYY-g6ionzM |
| 08:59.53 | Corrodias | "touchscreen is a bad idea for gaming anyways, who wants to move their hands all over the screen while damaging the lcd screen?" >> this person apparently thinks that touchscreen functionality can be enabled merely as a software feature |
| 09:00.37 | Mikma | Corrodias: only people with bad muscles can't hold their hands up long ;) |
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| 09:01.27 | Corrodias | i'm referring more to the "damaging the lcd screen" part |
| 09:01.49 | Corrodias | i'm reasonably sure -- and correct me if i'm wrong here -- that touchscreen monitors are designed to be touched |
| 09:02.08 | krka | you'd think so |
| 09:02.25 | Mikma | Corrodias: touchscreen is meant to be touched? i thought it's just a cool name!! ;) |
| 09:02.33 | Corrodias | haha :) |
| 09:02.39 | Mikma | other thing is if you touch it with ie. hammer |
| 09:02.46 | Mikma | then it might get more damage |
| 09:03.21 | Mikma | but i too think that it's designed to be touched.. :) |
| 09:04.05 | Mery | I'm waiting for Starcraft on my DS touchscreen, I doubt they are making it but at least its a possibility |
| 09:04.09 | Mikma | "but i dunt wanna scratch mi daddies brand new lcd dipslay!!!11" |
| 09:04.37 | fox689 | I'd love to do WoW with a touch screen |
| 09:04.42 | Mikma | looks pretty damn fast to play with touchscreen |
| 09:04.55 | Mikma | fox689: same here. would be fun to heal people |
| 09:05.06 | Mikma | who needs clickcasting when you got 2 hands to heal ;) |
| 09:05.14 | fox689 | lol, yeah. tap desired heal spell, then tap person |
| 09:05.28 | Mikma | and touching the screen is always faster than pointing with mouse and clicking |
| 09:05.32 | fox689 | yep |
| 09:05.51 | fox689 | reason why I have all my vitals on my warlock keybound |
| 09:06.00 | Mery | your mouse speed is too low Mikma ;) |
| 09:06.12 | Mikma | Mery: yes, master :( |
| 09:06.24 | fox689 | mouse is innaccurate |
| 09:06.43 | koomi | it is? |
| 09:06.49 | fox689 | mine is |
| 09:06.57 | koomi | tell that to those crazy halflife/cs players |
| 09:06.59 | fox689 | I always roll it too far or not far enough |
| 09:07.07 | Mikma | in emergency / after a surprise (read = gank) it's inaccurate |
| 09:07.23 | fox689 | oh, if I'm playing FPS, it's too accurate |
| 09:07.27 | koomi | Mikma: but i'm pretty sure a shaking figure won't improve |
| 09:07.32 | fox689 | but for WoW, I always over react |
| 09:07.49 | fox689 | reason why I rarely click |
| 09:07.51 | koomi | but do you really need the mouse to play wow? |
| 09:08.03 | fox689 | some things I find a need |
| 09:08.05 | Mikma | i'm always like "aargh where's my mouse going ffs!" when i get ganked :D |
| 09:08.10 | koomi | hrhr |
| 09:08.13 | fox689 | combat, I find no need |
| 09:08.48 | zenzelezz | I don't play on a PvP server anymore, but when I did I didn't have the inaccurate-mouse-when-ganked problem... I was too busy typing /golfclap |
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| 09:09.16 | fox689 | lol |
| 09:09.22 | fox689 | I love PvP servers |
| 09:11.59 | fox689 | arg.... All I need to do is change StaticPopup to center on WorldFrame instead of UIParent |
| 09:12.06 | fox689 | and I have no idea how to start |
| 09:13.24 | Corrodias | interesting: <Texture name="ExhaustionLevelFillBar"> but there's no file= part |
| 09:13.39 | fox689 | hmm |
| 09:13.41 | zenzelezz | probably set by code then |
| 09:18.01 | Corrodias | oh, well. resizing the texture the addon came with produces a pretty fuzzy result, but it's decent and pleasant as a ghostly overlay |
| 09:18.20 | fox689 | cool |
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| 09:47.21 | fox689 | anyone here? |
| 09:48.19 | Kirkburn | "If you buy the BC Collector's Edition, those noncombat pets will be given to each one of the characters on the account" :D |
| 09:49.31 | Mikma | Kirkburn: same was with WoW Collector's Edition |
| 09:49.35 | Kirkburn | Oh, and this pleaseth the warlock in me: " I suppose you can think of the Fel Guard as a replacement to the Voidwalker (for the most part). We've given him the key tools the voidwalker, and more. As one would expect, his damage is also pretty impressive with the new pet scaling." |
| 09:50.30 | Kirkburn | Mikma, that's true |
| 09:51.23 | Mikma | and i love the fact that Mini Diablo is still a "Minion" after pet-nerf ;) |
| 09:52.39 | Kirkburn | :P |
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| 09:58.28 | fox689 | local origUIErrorsFrame_SetDefaultAnchor = UIErrorsFrame_SetDefaultAnchor; |
| 09:58.28 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.28 | fox689 | function UIErrorsFrame_SetDefaultAnchor(errors, parent) |
| 09:58.28 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.28 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.29 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.31 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.33 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.35 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.37 | fox689 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:58.39 | fox689 | end |
| 09:58.43 | fox689 | am I doing this right? |
| 09:58.45 | fox689 | I'm guessing not since it isn't working |
| 10:00.13 | Kirkburn | fox689, can't answer that myself, but I'll say that most of the people in here are currently sleeping or are just starting work =) |
| 10:00.30 | fox689 | yeah... I should be. I've gotta be up in 5 hrs |
| 10:00.35 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 10:00.47 | fox689 | But I want my UI to work right, lol |
| 10:00.56 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 10:09.43 | FISKER_Q | nah Mikma you got them when you created the character :( |
| 10:10.02 | FISKER_Q | For some reason the collectors edition key and trial was changed on my manual |
| 10:10.07 | FISKER_Q | so i never got my pet :( |
| 10:18.45 | Kirkburn | fnar, fnar ... I just spent 5 mins swapping things around in my flatmate's room :P Like put his pillow at the other end of the bed, moved all his shoes around, and switched everything from right to left and left to right on tables =P |
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| 10:34.56 | fox689 | Yay, I'm actually learning how to do Lua |
| 10:35.31 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 10:35.57 | fox689 | I'm editting an addon to re-anchor a ton of stuff |
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| 11:00.48 | Corrodias | http://feministing.com/archives/005806.html [nsfw] |
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| 11:55.07 | Kaso | Kirkburn: tell ! |
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| 12:15.44 | Kirkburn | Kaso: no! |
| 12:19.28 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:21.43 | Corrodias | shot through the heart, and you're too vain; you give love a bad name. i play my heart, and you play your game. you give love a bad name. |
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| 12:28.29 | [floyd] | O.M.G. :D |
| 12:36.05 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 12:37.40 | Corrodias | and now i strongly suspect that blizzard was instrumental in the construction of the WoW episode of South Park. that is, unless there's some way for an alliance character to get a frostwolf battle tabard. |
| 12:38.07 | moonwolf | all the machinema (the ingame stuff) was done BY blizzard |
| 12:38.18 | Corrodias | ah, now that's nifty of them |
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| 12:45.02 | Corrodias | sleepy time. 'ni |
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| 14:04.51 | Kirkburn | I must say, Corrodias' link earlier was most ... enlightening |
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| 14:05.40 | Kirkburn | 'Educational tools', eh ... |
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| 14:09.45 | Cairenn | can't |
| 14:09.47 | Cairenn | stop |
| 14:09.48 | Cairenn | laughing |
| 14:10.02 | TS|Skrom | er ribs... |
| 14:11.38 | Corrodias | hehe |
| 14:12.10 | Corrodias | ah. looks like our multiguild alliance is having some serious issues, and since i don't particularly care to hunt down its forums to read all the drama, i am not sure what it's about |
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| 14:13.23 | Corrodias | the sense i get from our guild forum is that there's one guy trying to assert himself as the dictator, people disobey rules with no consequences, and several people dislike our guild for reasons i haven't been clued in on yet but quite possibly include that it's the largest one in the group (afaik) |
| 14:16.20 | Corrodias | and now i'm back to sleep. |
| 14:16.30 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: nn |
| 14:17.41 | Cairenn | oh, I love the finishing line ... "we want you to go over and reprimand both those men because under the provisions of the amendment just passed by representative chisam, it is now illegal for a prick to touch an asshole in this state" |
| 14:19.15 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 14:26.06 | Maldivia | ehh |
| 14:28.20 | Maldivia | *grr* hate billing day |
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| 14:40.08 | Maldivia | Kirkburn? |
| 14:40.20 | Kirkburn | yup? |
| 14:40.27 | Maldivia | can you post on the US boards? |
| 14:41.09 | Cairenn | krka: tag, you're it |
| 14:41.11 | Kirkburn | nope |
| 14:41.31 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: ko... |
| 14:41.34 | Maldivia | ok* |
| 14:41.49 | Cairenn | Maldivia: PM me (either here or at wowi) or pastey what you want posted |
| 14:42.16 | Maldivia | Cairenn: in the thread http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31144573&sid=1 -- just link http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4924 |
| 14:42.38 | Cairenn | done |
| 14:42.41 | Maldivia | thanks :) |
| 14:42.45 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 14:43.37 | Maldivia | I had hoped the new forums had fixed the billing day limbo :| |
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| 14:44.00 | Cairenn | nope, unfortunately |
| 14:44.02 | krka | Cairenn? |
| 14:44.15 | Cairenn | billing day still equals purgatory |
| 14:45.15 | Cairenn | krka: /msg nickserv identify <pw> :p |
| 14:45.22 | krka | ah right |
| 14:46.01 | krka | sorry, now we can resume the h0t cyb0z |
| 14:46.51 | Maldivia | ohh la la... |
| 14:52.51 | Kirkburn | oui oui! |
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| 15:15.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | is there any dungiom that requeres arcane resis ? |
| 15:16.17 | Kaso | no |
| 15:17.09 | whoughton | gehennas! |
| 15:17.11 | whoughton | or whatever |
| 15:17.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke then ill go farm arcane resis cheaply for BC :P |
| 15:17.57 | Inchon | I guess Tempest Keep could be arcane |
| 15:18.03 | Kirochi | Kael'll be the first mage boss |
| 15:18.10 | Inchon | but won't you want lvl 70ish items anyhow? |
| 15:18.16 | Inchon | rather than lvl 60 |
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| 15:19.26 | Elkano | well, people were also geting level 40 nature for AQ iirc |
| 15:21.11 | Kirochi | really ? |
| 15:21.18 | Kirochi | what use is it ? |
| 15:23.41 | Elkano | well, little res is better than none at all ^^ |
| 15:24.18 | nevcairiel | depends on the fight. you use that crap items only on huhuran, and only as rogue/hunter/off-warrior |
| 15:24.21 | Elkano | so instead of first farming level 70 resis items most will go with what they can lay their hands on |
| 15:24.23 | Kaso | Well for AQ hururururuan just needs enough people in 315 NR the quality of the gear doesnt really matter, so yeh thats why, but blizzard have learnt thier lessons, they arent going to put another resist fight in without giving epicresist patterns |
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| 15:25.42 | Kirochi | yup but aren't there better nature res than 40 ? |
| 15:25.59 | nevcairiel | not every slot |
| 15:26.04 | Kirochi | ok |
| 15:26.04 | Elkano | well, ok, lets say 50... Maraudon items |
| 15:26.12 | Kaso | there are, but they were on the Green dragons, which few guilds could get |
| 15:26.24 | Kaso | *relyably |
| 15:27.31 | Kirochi | and how much nature res does the aq set give (average) ? |
| 15:28.24 | Kaso | AQ set? you mean the crafted CC items? or tier 2.5? |
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| 15:29.04 | nevcairiel | tier 2.5 doesnt give any |
| 15:29.06 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 15:29.49 | whoughton | tier 2.5 is generally about dps though |
| 15:30.34 | Kirochi | dunno |
| 15:30.46 | Kirochi | is there a differenche between cc and 2.5 ? |
| 15:31.02 | Kirochi | and do the bronzez give armor pieces ? |
| 15:32.16 | Kaso | Tier 2.5 are the items which you get loot tokens from inside AQ40, they're mainly dps/pvp sets, the CC items are crafted blue items with lots of Nature resist, but little other stats |
| 15:32.22 | Kaso | and Bronzez? |
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| 15:38.51 | Kirochi | Bronze Dragonflight |
| 15:39.02 | Kirochi | = Brood of Nozdormu |
| 15:39.33 | nevcairiel | they only hand out a ring |
| 15:39.34 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:39.38 | Kirochi | :p |
| 15:39.43 | Kirochi | not enough, then |
| 15:39.48 | Kaso | The tier 2.5 are given by dragons, not speicifcally bronze |
| 15:40.14 | nevcairiel | you get a ring for every reputation level starting at neutral at anachronos in tanaris |
| 15:42.01 | Kirochi | I can hardly wait to buy a prepaid card |
| 15:42.19 | Kirochi | my guild's waiting for me and I can't find any moment to play wow :'( |
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| 15:57.15 | Osagasu | slosh moo. Moooooooooooooooooooooooooo... *hic* |
| 15:57.31 | Osagasu | That is all. Thank you. |
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| 16:12.17 | [Cu]Werik | Hi |
| 16:12.24 | Gryphen | heya |
| 16:15.29 | Nochni | 'lo |
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| 16:18.56 | Cairenn | hi |
| 16:19.03 | Gryphen | heya |
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| 16:48.11 | eufemia | heya |
| 16:48.53 | Eufe|Home | any1 here??!?! |
| 16:49.06 | tyroney|work | Apparently it's too early. |
| 16:51.25 | Eufe|Home | seems so |
| 16:51.39 | Eufe|Home | you know how to set up default parameters in function? |
| 16:51.42 | Nochni | wha? someone wake me up? |
| 16:53.27 | tyroney|work | Like optional parameters? |
| 16:53.36 | Plorkyeran | if not param then param = defaultvalue end |
| 16:54.30 | tyroney|work | var=var or default |
| 16:55.14 | Eufe|Home | so, I have to check for nil in the function bodY? |
| 16:55.52 | Eufe|Home | I tought there was a nicer way...like seting up default value in function declaration |
| 16:58.48 | tyroney|work | double checking, but I haven't heard of any such functionality. |
| 16:59.44 | Plorkyeran | Generally in lua if there's a fairly clean way to do something that doesn't require extra syntax, there won't also be a way involving extra syntax |
| 16:59.54 | Plorkyeran | Which is part of how lua manages to be so small |
| 17:05.48 | Nochni | is there a way ot just get all arguments to a function as an array? |
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| 17:11.53 | tyroney|work | function foo({...}) --though there are costs associated with such varargs |
| 17:12.13 | tyroney|work | And I'm no expert, so I won't bother talking about them. |
| 17:12.57 | tyroney|work | Wait, forget what I said. Function foo(var) and just pass it a table. |
| 17:13.51 | FISKER_Q | wth |
| 17:13.59 | Nochni | ah good idea, I guess |
| 17:14.03 | tyroney|work | So you'd call foo({1,4,"beans n franks", 7}) |
| 17:14.27 | FISKER_Q | someone killed Fubar_BattlegroundFu :/ |
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| 17:29.49 | cogwheel | tyroney|work: either way it constructs a table |
| 17:30.17 | cogwheel | also, you don't need parentheses when passing a table... |
| 17:30.29 | cogwheel | foo{1,4,"beans n franks", 7} |
| 17:30.47 | Kaso | i didnt know you could do that |
| 17:30.55 | cogwheel | you can do the same thing with quotes |
| 17:30.58 | cogwheel | print "hello" |
| 17:31.30 | Kaso | by gosh, you learn something new every day |
| 17:32.06 | Kaso | print"hello","bye" doesnt work i guess |
| 17:32.44 | cogwheel | nope |
| 17:32.50 | cogwheel | only one parameter can be used that way |
| 17:35.37 | cogwheel | I think horde should get goblins in the next expansion and then they could add a Medic class for gnomes & gobs |
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| 17:47.01 | fox689 | gar, I'm annoyed |
| 17:47.14 | fox689 | QuestWatchFrame refuses to move |
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| 17:58.37 | tyroney|work | cogwheel: I'd go for that, if only so that I could yell "Medic!" |
| 17:58.53 | cogwheel | Hehe |
| 17:58.59 | cogwheel | I've actually been thinking a lot about it.... |
| 18:00.32 | cogwheel | You could have the three different schools be things like Technology, Chemistry, and Biology |
| 18:00.50 | cogwheel | they would have biological and chemical weapons :) |
| 18:01.05 | cogwheel | and +15 first aid |
| 18:02.51 | fox689 | and when they bandage there wouldn't be the recently bandaged debuff |
| 18:03.27 | cogwheel | Their resurrection would be Defibrulate |
| 18:03.32 | fox689 | yeah |
| 18:04.19 | cogwheel | they could have steroids for buffs |
| 18:05.01 | fox689 | IV - Regenerates x Mana every x seconds. may be used in combat |
| 18:05.33 | cogwheel | Dialysis would remove poison effects |
| 18:09.09 | tyroney|work | I'm sorta still waiting for a carpentry skill. Not that I'm holding my breath or anything. |
| 18:09.48 | fox689 | I'd like to see the ability to make mounts in enginneering |
| 18:10.00 | fox689 | like the gnome mount or a shredder |
| 18:10.12 | cogwheel | Innoculation - +30 nature resist |
| 18:10.51 | kergoth | a shredder mount would rock |
| 18:10.54 | fox689 | think about this - a Tarren sized goblin Shredder |
| 18:11.09 | fox689 | it would be huge! |
| 18:11.10 | kergoth | thats just disturbing :) |
| 18:11.35 | tyroney|work | Wouldn't that be a tauren shredder, then? |
| 18:11.58 | fox689 | it would still be a goblin engineering item |
| 18:12.40 | tyroney|work | crafted flying mount |
| 18:12.50 | fox689 | that would be really cool |
| 18:13.07 | fox689 | make a small zepplin or gnomish flying machine |
| 18:13.35 | fox689 | I would do gnomish engineering just for that |
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| 18:14.34 | fox689 | if they ever added air combat, it would get insane. gnomish flying machine dogfights! |
| 18:15.42 | fox689 | yeah, I'm just talking out of my head now |
| 18:16.34 | Kirov | i see lots of dead gnomes |
| 18:16.41 | fox689 | lol |
| 18:16.51 | Kirov | Not from being defeated, but from their machines exploding randomly mid-flight |
| 18:17.33 | Kirov | "Caution - May not be safe for anyone, ever." |
| 18:19.17 | tyroney|work | Goblin jetpacks. "Do not press the big red button... |
| 18:19.19 | tyroney|work | ...while fying over inhabited regions" |
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| 18:21.48 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 18:25.32 | jaxdahl | New in 2.0: |
| 18:25.32 | jaxdahl | /swapactionbar A B |
| 18:25.33 | jaxdahl | Toggles between two action bars |
| 18:25.42 | jaxdahl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&pageNo=6&sid=1#116 |
| 18:28.43 | JoshBorke | how can you get to the remains of archimonde in wow? |
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| 18:39.55 | Kirochi | you can't |
| 18:40.03 | Kirochi | Hyjal is closed |
| 18:40.14 | Kirochi | or using exploits |
| 18:42.11 | Kirochi | <tyroney|work> I'm sorta still waiting for a carpentry skill. Not that I'm holding my breath or anything. |
| 18:42.16 | Kirochi | yeah, so am I |
| 18:42.35 | Kirochi | wood is a so important element in everything |
| 18:42.53 | Kirochi | but respawning trees would be awful |
| 18:43.26 | Kirochi | 'pop !' A centennial sequoia has just sprang from the ground ! |
| 18:43.38 | tyroney|work | Maybe just make them buy it at one of the assorted lumber mills. |
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| 18:44.17 | kergoth | itd be amusing if you went flying if it spawned underneith you |
| 18:44.21 | kergoth | *whee* |
| 18:44.24 | Kirochi | *bing* |
| 18:44.28 | tyroney|work | Or you could split off planks native american style, so all the trees would have this bare gash down the side. |
| 18:44.32 | Kirov | Kirochi - heh, or the image of someone "looting" a sequoia and it disappearing |
| 18:44.41 | Kirochi | a tree in the ass ... oO |
| 18:44.45 | Kirochi | yeah |
| 18:44.47 | Rallion | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.52 | Kirov | "Kirov loots [Redwood Log]x450000 |
| 18:44.53 | Rallion | it would fill some annoying gaps |
| 18:45.16 | Rallion | you can't make arrows, bows, or staves |
| 18:45.25 | Kirov | Boats! |
| 18:45.28 | Rallion | boats. |
| 18:45.33 | tyroney|work | Sandals! |
| 18:45.35 | Kirochi | yep |
| 18:45.35 | Kirov | Oh, and boomerangs |
| 18:45.39 | Rallion | YES! |
| 18:45.39 | tyroney|work | Or, uh, clogs. |
| 18:45.39 | Kirochi | the next expansion |
| 18:45.50 | Kirochi | will be about teh great sea (most probavly) |
| 18:45.58 | Rallion | possibly |
| 18:45.59 | Kirochi | ARR ! PIRATES' BOATS ! |
| 18:46.02 | Kirov | clogs would have to be racial to humans I think |
| 18:46.06 | Rallion | lol |
| 18:46.12 | Rallion | dwarves would be awesome in clogs. |
| 18:46.21 | Kirochi | clogs ? |
| 18:46.22 | tyroney|work | Gnomes would be funny. |
| 18:46.29 | tyroney|work | ~ wiki clogs |
| 18:46.37 | tyroney|work | Was that right? |
| 18:46.40 | Kirochi | purl, dict clog |
| 18:46.52 | Kirochi | I do prefer wikipedia |
| 18:47.14 | Kirochi | "sabots" in french |
| 18:47.46 | Kirochi | :p and sabots also mean hooves |
| 18:48.00 | Kirochi | so, racial for tauren and draenei ? |
| 18:48.35 | tyroney|work | They should bring back plainsrunning, and make Tauren buy horseshoes. |
| 18:48.42 | Kirochi | xD |
| 18:48.47 | Kirochi | giddy up ! |
| 18:48.55 | Kirochi | fetch ! |
| 18:49.41 | tyroney|work | I really wish I'd had a chance to try that out back in the day. I was too busy on a human rogue to bother. |
| 18:50.05 | Kirochi | And too bad they've removed the pvp racial kill marks from alterac battleground |
| 18:50.59 | Kirochi | "Night Elf ear", "Tauren Steak" |
| 18:51.12 | tyroney|work | But I'm glad Druids aren't the same as open beta. |
| 18:51.19 | Plorkyeran | It was Tauren hooves |
| 18:51.24 | Kirochi | yes |
| 18:51.33 | Kirochi | but tauren steak is way funnier |
| 18:51.55 | Kirochi | <Tauren Butcher> |
| 18:53.12 | Kirochi | tyroney what do you mean ? |
| 18:54.54 | tyroney|work | Druids? Back before the cat enhancement, and before the bear buff, druids were satifyingly challenging to play. |
| 18:55.15 | tyroney|work | To put it kindly. |
| 18:56.06 | Plorkyeran | If by "challenging to play" you mean "bad priests" :P |
| 18:56.39 | Plorkyeran | It was so much fun getting cat form and realizing it did less dps than bear form |
| 18:56.58 | tyroney|work | It was funny and sad. I switched to a priest (for crying out loud) and was astounded at the speed and ease of play. |
| 18:57.55 | Plorkyeran | I was amazed at how fast my holy priest could kill things after playing a druid in beta. |
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| 18:59.22 | Kirochi | :p |
| 18:59.36 | cogwheel | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 18:59.39 | Kirochi | my shadow priest kills stuff |
| 18:59.52 | Kirochi | what's wrong with you ? |
| 18:59.53 | Kirochi | er |
| 18:59.55 | Kirochi | I mean |
| 19:00.01 | Kirochi | What appears to be the problem ? |
| 19:00.27 | cogwheel | I just spent the last 45 minutes writing up a forum post to suggest a Medic class |
| 19:00.33 | tyroney|work | Oh no. |
| 19:00.40 | cogwheel | only to have it disappear in the ether when it asked me to log in. |
| 19:02.53 | tyroney|work | Uh oh. I was on a boat. I had just arrived at menthil, I jumped off the boat, and was disconnected in mid-air. I went to log back in, and had no location listed under that character... |
| 19:02.58 | tyroney|work | Phew. I landed on the dock. |
| 19:03.15 | Kirochi | Witchdoctor+engineering is your friend |
| 19:03.26 | tyroney|work | Are you tiny? |
| 19:05.08 | Kirochi | nay |
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| 19:16.51 | koomi | is there a lua function like: isNumber or isString? |
| 19:17.07 | cogwheel | if type(var) == "string" |
| 19:17.37 | koomi | thanks cogwheel |
| 19:18.51 | cogwheel | From http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#5.1 : Returns the type of its only argument, coded as a string. The possible results of this function are "nil" (a string, not the value nil), "number", "string", "boolean, "table", "function", "thread", and "userdata". |
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| 19:19.14 | JoshBorke | o.O thread? |
| 19:20.16 | cogwheel | JoshBorke: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#3.20 |
| 19:20.51 | JoshBorke | too bad we can't have threads in WoW |
| 19:20.57 | cogwheel | or more to the point http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#2.10 |
| 19:21.11 | malreth | have you done multi-threaded programming? |
| 19:22.00 | cogwheel | Not since school... |
| 19:22.43 | malreth | i was a BeOS developer in a previous life |
| 19:23.06 | malreth | multi-threads are fun... but it's easy to get stuck debugging some real doozies |
| 19:23.23 | JoshBorke | malreth: yes, but only very very simply :-D |
| 19:23.27 | cogwheel | yeah... it's hard enough debugging wow addons as it is... |
| 19:25.05 | malreth | but... |
| 19:25.31 | malreth | with lua's closures... |
| 19:25.34 | malreth | hmm... |
| 19:26.44 | malreth | yeah... going multi-threaded means addon authors would probably have to write re-entrant safe code |
| 19:27.16 | Osagasu | Unless it was implemented perfectly. |
| 19:27.22 | tyroney|work | Can we get them all writing entrant-safe code first? |
| 19:27.23 | cogwheel | well, luckily, it's not true multithreading |
| 19:27.37 | malreth | :p |
| 19:27.51 | malreth | well, co-routines aren't. true |
| 19:28.56 | malreth | but being single-threaded with no coroutines means you can make a lot of assumptions when you write addons |
| 19:46.37 | TS|Skrom | *giggle* |
| 19:46.58 | TS|Skrom | if (LUA_HOOKLINE and SINKER) then |
| 19:47.27 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 19:47.41 | cogwheel | I was looking through an addon once that used a variable called needle |
| 19:47.56 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 19:48.07 | cogwheel | it's an addon that searches through your bags for an item of a particular name |
| 19:48.11 | TS|Skrom | 'sew' what did it do? |
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| 19:48.28 | Kirochi | Crapentry FTW ! |
| 19:48.44 | cogwheel | like searching for a needle in a haystack... |
| 19:48.48 | TS|Skrom | haha |
| 19:48.59 | TS|Skrom | I thought you were making tailoring references |
| 19:49.13 | Kirochi | well |
| 19:49.24 | TS|Skrom | or following the discussion prior... a variable 'needle' passed into a thread :D |
| 19:49.26 | Kirochi | if there are thousand needles it's much easier |
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| 20:02.23 | Iriel | lua's threads are the things created by the coroutine library |
| 20:03.13 | Iriel | I've not toyed around with what TRUE multithreading would mean to lua, there is a state object for each executing thing but I dont think there's any synchronization for things running against the same one. |
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| 21:20.39 | Rallion | i haven't worked on my addon in...oh...a long time. it's gonna be a little rough to get back into it. |
| 21:21.26 | Rallion | last modified 8/27 |
| 21:27.16 | cogwheel | forums just die? |
| 21:29.51 | Mikk | cogwheel: I almost always name my search function arguments "needle" and "haystack" :-P |
| 21:30.33 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 21:36.15 | Kirkburn | The South Park episode!! http://www.younewb.com/index.php/2006/10/05/full-video-of-new-wow-south-park-episode/ |
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| 21:42.08 | Mikk | I wouldn't attempt Lua multithreading I don't think. Lua multiprocessing with some sort of comms layer between the process... yah ok that'd work. |
| 21:42.18 | Mikk | </scrollback> |
| 21:49.56 | Gryphen | already ripped the episode from google vid...before it was removed :) |
| 21:51.56 | Rallion | you could just go to any torrent site and grab a high-res version |
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| 22:08.22 | Mikk | 15 minutes to torrent that ep |
| 22:08.23 | Mikk | not bad =P |
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| 22:32.08 | cogwheel | is event passed as a parameter to the OnEvent handler or is it a global? |
| 22:32.17 | Kirov | global |
| 22:46.37 | cogwheel | Man... I'm really surprised at how much info is being leaked from the alpha |
| 22:46.43 | cogwheel | it's kind of depressing |
| 22:47.04 | Kirov | hmm, where? |
| 22:47.27 | cogwheel | just in general... |
| 22:47.53 | cogwheel | I saw the trailer for flying mounts on youtube before Blizz released it (unwittingly) |
| 22:48.04 | cogwheel | in fact, Kirkburn thought it was a fake :P |
| 22:48.05 | Kirov | heh |
| 22:48.54 | cogwheel | There's also some "rumors" going around about changes that will break click-casting mods |
| 22:49.01 | Mery | one of my teachers once said "Tell somebody to not tell anybody else if you want everybody to know it by tomorrow" |
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| 22:49.45 | cogwheel | Mery: that's why it's depressing XD |
| 22:50.05 | Xuerian | Breaking click-casting mods? Screw playing my healer =| |
| 22:50.11 | cogwheel | I mean, the Alpha isn't even supposed to exist--wink wink |
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| 22:51.14 | cogwheel | and it's only people who work for Blizz or are friends/family of employees, so you'd think there'd be at least a shred of respect for the NDA |
| 22:51.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | somehow i managed to fill my entire connection log |
| 22:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | er buffer |
| 22:52.00 | Mikk | cogwheel: and reporters and and and ... |
| 22:52.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | uptime of 17 days locked my connection down completely on this pc somehow |
| 22:52.10 | cogwheel | And this whole "they're under an NDA but i'm not so i can tell you" nonsense is a bunch of crap |
| 22:54.09 | cogwheel | </rant> |
| 22:54.25 | Mery | Well from a personal point of view (not legally) I'd say Blizzard only reason to have such an NDA is that they want to prevent mass hysteria like "OMG don't change this or that" when they don't even know if that feature will stay in and are just testing, and also they probably don't want SS all around the web showing unfinished content that could bring bad press |
| 22:55.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean like wowexposed.de? or you mean like ign leaking stuff? |
| 22:55.43 | Kirov | You can't really fault people for being excited about something, half of me wants to track down all of the leaked information to read, the other half to lynch the person who released it. |
| 22:56.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | its not a site that gives away all that bc has to offer |
| 22:56.56 | cogwheel | kirov: that's about where I am. But I went to blizzcon so I can rest assured that I will be playing BC before most people :) |
| 22:57.52 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 22:58.14 | cogwheel | I'm tempted to because I don't use the character which has mine much anymore :( |
| 22:58.23 | Mery | :( |
| 22:58.49 | Mery | I just hate walking around through IF with it... too many tells |
| 22:59.23 | cogwheel | hehe... I got AutoRespond for that... any time anyone whispers me "murky" or "murloc" it sends them a spiel about blizzcon and how the code can only be used once |
| 22:59.51 | cogwheel | Thanks to Murphy's Law, no one has asked me about him since XD |
| 22:59.51 | Mery | ! should have done that for my mount (winterspring saber) lol |
| 23:00.16 | Mery | I dunno how often I typed all that info about the quests already |
| 23:00.31 | cogwheel | How *do* you get that, btw? |
| 23:00.36 | cogwheel | j/k :P |
| 23:00.46 | Mery | ~slap cogwheel |
| 23:00.48 | purl | ACTION slaps cogwheel, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 23:01.46 | Kirochi | ~sleep |
| 23:01.47 | purl | well, sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 23:01.56 | Kirochi | :p |
| 23:01.57 | cogwheel | ~bawls |
| 23:01.58 | purl | methinks bawls is a hyper-caffeinated drink from http://thinkgeek.com under the \"caffeine\" section |
| 23:02.05 | Kirochi | ~purl |
| 23:02.07 | purl | purl is, like, not one of the smart ones |
| 23:02.13 | Kirochi | indeed |
| 23:02.27 | cogwheel | ~kirov |
| 23:02.38 | Kirochi | ~fizza |
| 23:03.07 | cogwheel | ~nickometer CrazyMYKL |
| 23:03.27 | Mery | ~nickometer |FF|Im2good4u |
| 23:03.28 | Kirochi | ~nickometer cogwheel |
| 23:03.34 | Kirochi | xD |
| 23:03.39 | Cide | cogwheel hardcoded it, clearly |
| 23:03.41 | cogwheel | ~nickometer FISKER_Q |
| 23:03.44 | Kirochi | yes |
| 23:03.48 | Kirochi | totally |
| 23:03.54 | Kirochi | LAWLZ |
| 23:03.55 | cogwheel | nah... it goes by symbols, caps, & numbers |
| 23:04.07 | Kirochi | ~nickometer kirochi |
| 23:04.10 | cogwheel | ~nickometer fox689 |
| 23:04.11 | Kirochi | ^^ |
| 23:04.55 | Kirochi | ~nickometer D4@ZZr4|°3r |
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| 23:05.07 | Kirochi | woo hoo dat was close |
| 23:05.14 | cogwheel | ~nickometer AAAAAAAAA |
| 23:05.16 | Kirov | ~emulate kirov |
| 23:05.18 | purl | personally I'd use blow fish |
| 23:05.40 | Kirochi | ~winblows |
| 23:05.42 | purl | winblows is probably an even more accurate name than windoze, or not the name of windows damnit ! |
| 23:05.42 | Kirov | lol |
| 23:05.51 | Kirochi | ^^ |
| 23:05.52 | cogwheel | ~nickometer A-A-A-A-A-A-A324234 |
| 23:05.56 | Kirov | ~emulate kirov |
| 23:05.57 | purl | personally I'd use blow fish |
| 23:06.01 | Kirov | damn |
| 23:06.08 | Kirov | they killed my other ones |
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| 23:06.34 | cogwheel | ~NICKOMETER /502R]U=OUE=33 |
| 23:06.39 | Kirochi | ~wowwiki |
| 23:06.40 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowwiki is http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 23:06.46 | Kirochi | :p |
| 23:06.49 | Kirochi | auto-answer |
| 23:06.59 | cogwheel | ~nickometer _ |
| 23:07.05 | Kirochi | you gotta narrow escape |
| 23:07.18 | cogwheel | ~nickometer _-'-_ |
| 23:07.38 | Kirkburn | What on earth have I walked in on? |
| 23:07.38 | Kirochi | ~nickometer K09\/\/|-|331 |
| 23:07.43 | cogwheel | ~nickometer 3.A3.A3.A3.A |
| 23:08.02 | cogwheel | damn... you beat my 99.94, Kirochi :P |
| 23:08.08 | Kirochi | ~nickometer Cartman |
| 23:08.17 | Kirochi | Yea I knew it |
| 23:08.20 | cogwheel | ~nickometer 3 |
| 23:08.27 | cogwheel | ~nickometer 33 |
| 23:08.33 | cogwheel | ~nickometer 33333 |
| 23:08.39 | cogwheel | ~nickometer 3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 |
| 23:09.00 | Kirov | mkay ... might be a good time to stop abusing purl |
| 23:09.01 | Kirochi | ~nickometer 333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 |
| 23:09.10 | Kirochi | yarr |
| 23:09.15 | cogwheel | ~nickometer |\/|\/|\/|\/|\/+ |
| 23:09.15 | Kirochi | purl is fer pirates |
| 23:09.23 | cogwheel | boo yah |
| 23:09.29 | Kirochi | nive ^^ |
| 23:09.32 | fox689 | ~nickometer kirochi |
| 23:09.33 | Kirochi | nice* |
| 23:09.40 | Kirochi | didn't you know it ? |
| 23:09.44 | fox689 | lol |
| 23:09.49 | Kaelten | g'evening |
| 23:09.54 | cogwheel | hello |
| 23:09.54 | fox689 | ~nickometer fox689 |
| 23:09.54 | Kirochi | ~nickometer Kirkbum |
| 23:10.04 | fox689 | the number |
| 23:10.09 | cogwheel | yep |
| 23:10.15 | Kirochi | OK |
| 23:10.15 | cogwheel | numbers, symbols and caps = bad |
| 23:10.16 | Kirkburn | If t'were my real name, I still wouldn't be lame :P |
| 23:10.24 | Kirochi | gotta go now |
| 23:10.31 | fox689 | ~nickometer lamer |
| 23:10.39 | fox689 | lol |
| 23:10.43 | cogwheel | ~nickometer 64.42.102.222 |
| 23:10.51 | Kirochi|Sleeping | ~nickometer Kirochi|Sleeping |
| 23:10.57 | Kirochi|Sleeping | dammit |
| 23:11.01 | nevcairiel | ~nickometer nevcairiel |
| 23:11.05 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 23:11.09 | qw` | ~nickometer qw |
| 23:11.12 | cogwheel | ~nickometer zomgwootlolrox |
| 23:11.17 | fox689 | ~nickometer Fox |
| 23:11.32 | nevcairiel | the algorithm is easy, numbers and special chars make it lame |
| 23:11.32 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 23:12.07 | cogwheel | plus a few keywords |
| 23:12.09 | cogwheel | http://www.adamspiers.org/computing/nickometer/nickometer.pl |
| 23:12.30 | cogwheel | ~nickometer n1tekew1 |
| 23:12.40 | cogwheel | ~nickometer nite |
| 23:12.54 | Kirov | ~nickometer dude |
| 23:13.09 | dreyruugr | ~nickometer dreyruugr |
| 23:13.15 | Kirov | ~nickometer pron |
| 23:13.16 | dreyruugr | ftw! |
| 23:13.35 | Kirov | ~nickometer warezpron |
| 23:13.40 | cogwheel | ~nickometer leetpronwarez |
| 23:13.49 | nevcairiel | getting close :D |
| 23:14.14 | cogwheel | i got 99.9945 with |\/|\/|\/|\/|\/+ |
| 23:14.18 | qw` | ~nickometer l33tpr0nwar3z |
| 23:14.30 | cogwheel | ~nickometer |\/|\/|\/|\/|\/+|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/+|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/+|\/|\/|\/|\/|\/+ |
| 23:14.40 | Kirov | heh |
| 23:14.47 | cogwheel | I have a feeling the algorithm only approches 100% |
| 23:14.59 | Kirov | ~nickometer _B |
| 23:15.26 | Kirov | ~nickometer l33twarezprondude1241!!!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |
| 23:15.38 | cogwheel | lol |
| 23:15.44 | nevcairiel | ~nickometer 69 |
| 23:16.00 | Kirov | that should of been 69.000% lame |
| 23:16.01 | nevcairiel | ~nickometer pronpronpronpronpronpron |
| 23:16.07 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 23:16.14 | cogwheel | ~nickometer L33TWAREZPRONDUDE1241!!!|||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |
| 23:16.33 | cogwheel | dang... only .0003 increase for caps ;) |
| 23:17.26 | nevcairiel | try mixing :) |
| 23:17.43 | cogwheel | ~nickometer |'|\/|41337h4x0rz |
| 23:18.36 | nevcairiel | ~nickometer L33TWaReZPrOnDuDe1241!!!||||||||||||||||||||||||||||[][] |
| 23:18.45 | nevcairiel | hm even less |
| 23:18.49 | nevcairiel | stupid purl :) |
| 23:19.06 | chuckg | Is anyone aware of a fast way to retrieve what group # a player is in in a raid? |
| 23:19.09 | chuckg | I can't find it on the wiki. |
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| 23:19.30 | nevcairiel | fast way, grep RaidRosterInfo and search your unit. |
| 23:19.36 | raga | hi |
| 23:19.43 | Gryphen | heya |
| 23:19.45 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 23:20.38 | chuckg | And you have to iterate the raid to find your specific player? Ick. |
| 23:20.47 | chuckg | In this case, just wanting self. |
| 23:21.25 | cogwheel | you could keep track of your raid ID and update it on any events that change the groups |
| 23:21.28 | raga | i've just written my first mod, and i'm having trouble getting it to load, could anyone help me? |
| 23:21.41 | Mery | or get a libary that does this for you |
| 23:21.46 | nevcairiel | raga just ask |
| 23:22.04 | Mery | raga: sure just post a little more information you'll probably get an answer |
| 23:22.07 | cogwheel | raga: if you need to show us code, check out the link in the channel topic |
| 23:22.18 | raga | ok |
| 23:22.58 | chuckg | That's beyond what I'm looking for, was just hoping for a quick and easy in/out fo ragUF. |
| 23:22.59 | raga | i guess, first question, are there any debugging commands available from the chat window, like can i determine if wow has loaded certain portions of my addon? |
| 23:23.37 | nevcairiel | You could try IsAddonLoaded("addonname") if it loaded at all. |
| 23:23.58 | cogwheel | your addon will be loaded all at once unless it's on-demand or split into multiple addons |
| 23:24.08 | raga | ok |
| 23:25.39 | raga | well, as far as i can tell, i have the proper files (.toc/.xml/.lua) and i have all my script and frame declaration in the xml, but OnLoad doesnt seem to be called |
| 23:26.02 | MentalPower | Check the Logs\FrameXML.log file |
| 23:26.20 | raga | ok, lemme do that |
| 23:27.04 | raga | ahh haaaa :) |
| 23:27.18 | raga | thats exactly what i was looking for, some sort of error feedback |
| 23:27.38 | raga | tyvm all |
| 23:29.21 | cogwheel | Off to home... 'till next time |
| 23:35.04 | raga | well, its loading now |
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| 23:36.23 | e1ven | I'm new, and have a stupid question, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. How can I get the unit the mouse is over? |
| 23:38.04 | Mery | "mouseover" is a valid unitID to some functions os UnitName("mouseover") |
| 23:38.17 | Mery | http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId |
| 23:38.41 | e1ven | Perfect. Thanks. |
| 23:38.51 | e1ven | I was looking for it as a seperate function.. |
| 23:39.06 | e1ven | such as getMouseOver(), etc. |
| 23:39.08 | e1ven | That's great. |
| 23:39.11 | Mery | :) |
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| 23:45.15 | raga | later |