| 00:00.00 | cladhaire | ~QQ |
| 00:00.05 | purl | dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream! |
| 00:00.06 | cladhaire | lets see if purl can help |
| 00:00.06 | cogwheel | Switch contexts: they could've decided not to give us any UI addon infrastructure in the first place |
| 00:00.12 | cladhaire | um... whoa. |
| 00:00.17 | Thunder_Child | lol, that kind of help? |
| 00:01.01 | cladhaire | Aye cogwheel. Someone was very clear with it one day. They could have given us no UI and then opened it up little by little, and have a very rigid UI. They clearly took the opportunity to open it up, and see what we could do.. and then react if necessary |
| 00:01.08 | cladhaire | Autotravel and Decursive made them react |
| 00:01.22 | cladhaire | They've integrated tons of addons/ideas into the game, and the cycle will begin again *shrug* |
| 00:01.46 | Thunder_Child | it's because i dont like the rules changing mid stream |
| 00:01.57 | Foxlit | mid stream would be in something like 1.10 |
| 00:02.00 | Tain | Beta email received. |
| 00:02.00 | cladhaire | Well, would you rather the not allow addons at all? |
| 00:02.03 | cogwheel | That's just how it is with MMOs |
| 00:02.06 | Thunder_Child | i dont mind WHAT rules they have as long as they stop changing them |
| 00:02.07 | cladhaire | this is the expansion.. its far from midstream |
| 00:02.12 | cladhaire | they aren't going to change them |
| 00:02.12 | Foxlit | Changing them across major version releases is fine. |
| 00:02.16 | cladhaire | i dont suspect |
| 00:02.24 | cladhaire | they've made the rules clear now |
| 00:02.33 | cladhaire | they weren't before, because they couldn't enforce them before. |
| 00:03.03 | cladhaire | if they had tried this on a non major version change.. The Unstoppable Force would have hit The Immovable Object and Chuck Norris would have died, for sure. |
| 00:03.04 | Thunder_Child | well i guess i will learn to love it, or at least live with it |
| 00:03.15 | cladhaire | what do you need to "live" with? |
| 00:03.18 | cladhaire | whats your major concern? |
| 00:03.24 | cladhaire | cause most concerns have resolution already |
| 00:03.27 | Thunder_Child | the rules changing mid stream |
| 00:03.41 | Tain | If that is going to worry you then don't ever play a persistent world online game. |
| 00:03.53 | Thunder_Child | or d&d for that matter |
| 00:03.55 | cladhaire | What about the changes bother you, other than the fact that they have changed? |
| 00:04.02 | cogwheel | Look on the bright side... if they weren't making these changes, they wouldn't have let all you authors into the beta XD |
| 00:04.06 | Thunder_Child | the fact that they have been changed |
| 00:04.09 | Guillotine | it really isn't bad at all. It makes programming slightly harder for the people just learning it now, but its better in the long run |
| 00:04.16 | wereHamster | I don't think blizzard ever changed teh rules..they just didn't know how to stop certain addons, but we've always known that they dislike decursive |
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| 00:04.31 | Tain | Change is good. |
| 00:04.32 | cladhaire | wereHamster: But as a result, they never said they didn't want decursive functionality |
| 00:04.33 | Tain | Embrace change. |
| 00:04.34 | cladhaire | until this patch |
| 00:04.41 | Foxlit | Change is bad, it breaks things |
| 00:04.44 | cladhaire | Tain touches me in bad places. |
| 00:04.45 | Foxlit | End results are good, though :) |
| 00:04.59 | Tain | You said you liked it on your elbow. |
| 00:05.14 | cladhaire | ankles my boy.. ankles! |
| 00:06.21 | Tain | Its like the people complaining that new gear in the expansion is wrong because it wipes out all the gear you got before. |
| 00:06.43 | Thunder_Child | ok one last thing on that topic, if everyone know what they dont want, why are ppl still trying to find ways around it? |
| 00:07.08 | Guillotine | thats just what we do |
| 00:07.18 | Guillotine | you should have seen us when we figured out the item spoofing |
| 00:07.19 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: the same reason bubbles are spherical |
| 00:07.23 | Tain | Pick and poke and prod and push the envelope. |
| 00:07.41 | Foxlit | It's not really about finding ways around it; it's about getting the same functionality to work in expansion :P |
| 00:07.58 | Tain | But no one (with sanity) is surprised when something changes to prevent us from doing things that are potentially detrimental to the overall health of the game. |
| 00:08.02 | Thunder_Child | Feels kinda hypocritical then |
| 00:08.09 | cladhaire | how so? |
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| 00:08.19 | cladhaire | hackers hack, regardless. |
| 00:08.22 | Thunder_Child | you know what they dont want, but try to do it anyways |
| 00:08.34 | cladhaire | just to see |
| 00:08.43 | cladhaire | have you ever crossed the street outside teh crosswalk? |
| 00:08.43 | Tain | That's not a true characterization of it, Thunder_Troll |
| 00:08.47 | cogwheel | Because there are a lot of people who want it and don't care that blizzard doesn't |
| 00:08.56 | Tain | cladhaire's a jay walker from way back. |
| 00:09.01 | Thunder_Child | no troll, these are my belifes |
| 00:09.04 | cladhaire | because you knew you could make it across? even tho you knew full well the city planners didn't want you to. |
| 00:09.13 | cladhaire | cause I bet you have |
| 00:09.19 | cladhaire | or you did what you rmother told you not to.. to see if you coulod. |
| 00:09.20 | cladhaire | etc. |
| 00:09.22 | cladhaire | human nature. |
| 00:09.33 | cladhaire | and we're raging alcoholic douchebags |
| 00:09.50 | Tain | Although there's also a good portion of doing things because you want to see if you can do it, without even contemplating whether or not you're supposed to. |
| 00:09.56 | Tain | That's the nature of science. |
| 00:10.15 | cladhaire | Tain: you're just making a hypothesis.. |
| 00:10.17 | cladhaire | *gasp* =) |
| 00:10.26 | Foxlit | Besides, there's a very simple ethical discount |
| 00:10.29 | Tain | I'm going to get a drink imo |
| 00:10.38 | Foxlit | "If it does work, they either (a) forgot about it or (b) allowed it." |
| 00:10.44 | Tain | woah ethical discounts? |
| 00:10.59 | Tain | LIke 10% off at Walmart if you don't sin? |
| 00:11.12 | Foxlit | No, I'm thinking more like 10% off ethics if you do sin :) |
| 00:11.38 | Foxlit | or, er, 10% off the sense of being unethical afterwards. |
| 00:11.40 | cladhaire | hrm.. i just like when god rolls back ethics.. and the smiley face bounces around |
| 00:11.41 | Foxlit | Or something. |
| 00:11.43 | Tain | Anyway, beta client downloading, back to Final Fantasy XII! |
| 00:11.44 | cladhaire | or was that Walmart. |
| 00:11.45 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 00:14.29 | Mery | there is nothing worse than reruns of deal or nodeal as if people wouldn't notice (in germany)... |
| 00:15.29 | cogwheel | hmm... either it went over everyone's heads, or everyone got it... |
| 00:15.58 | Thunder_Child | over |
| 00:16.29 | ckknight | yea, I didn't get it, either |
| 00:16.32 | ckknight | what about reruns? |
| 00:17.37 | Mery | well its so much fun to watch if you know how much they gonna win... |
| 00:17.48 | cogwheel | <Thunder_Child> why are ppl still trying to find ways around it? <cogwheel> the same reason bubbles are spherical |
| 00:17.57 | cogwheel | made perfect sense to me... |
| 00:18.01 | cogwheel | :P |
| 00:18.29 | Thunder_Child | because they are. |
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| 00:23.03 | zespri | how many times do you need to patch after you've downloaded the beta? |
| 00:23.12 | Shadowed | lol |
| 00:23.14 | Shadowed | about 5-6 |
| 00:23.26 | Thunder_Child | at least most of them are small |
| 00:23.28 | zespri | cheers |
| 00:24.41 | MentalPower | 5 times |
| 00:24.44 | Kirkburn | *sigh* I wish they'd sort out the EU beta Outland servers |
| 00:26.15 | Thunder_Child | whats wrong with them? |
| 00:26.26 | Pup | they're down |
| 00:26.39 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 00:26.45 | wereHamster | I can't login into beta.. it always throws me back to the character screen when I try to enter world |
| 00:27.17 | Pup | aye it will for any chars logged in outland |
| 00:27.21 | MentalPower | wereHamster: try another continent |
| 00:27.39 | wereHamster | I have only one char there.. |
| 00:27.40 | MentalPower | Outland, and the BE/DR starting zones are the same continent |
| 00:28.13 | ckknight | that seems odd that they are, honestly. |
| 00:28.34 | ckknight | I mean, it sorta makes sense from a technical standpoint |
| 00:28.37 | ckknight | but it seems hackish |
| 00:29.08 | zespri | yeah, these dirty hackers at blizz =) |
| 00:32.13 | Tain | New best toy ever. http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=514&src_t=sbk&src_id=kitchen |
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| 00:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I got my key today. |
| 00:37.54 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:38.03 | Cairenn | so do I have a bunch of happy authors in here today? |
| 00:38.09 | Tain | Yay for Cairenn. :) |
| 00:38.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You have for a while ;) |
| 00:38.23 | Tain | AT least until the drunkeness sets in. |
| 00:38.49 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:39.41 | Thunder_Child | then you have really happy authors |
| 00:39.47 | JoshBork1 | can i run wow and tbc at the same time? O.o |
| 00:39.55 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 00:39.59 | Thunder_Child | and ptr when it comes out |
| 00:40.02 | JoshBork1 | woot! two screens for the win! |
| 00:40.39 | Pup | Kirkburn, server restart in 12mins |
| 00:41.00 | Kirkburn | Fa-hinally! :D |
| 00:41.02 | Tain | I also picked up Guitar Hero 2 today. |
| 00:41.59 | Corrodias | so here's what i wonder about TBC: can you cast spells without latency delay, as you can with the FastCast addon in WoW? |
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| 00:42.44 | Tuller | hurray :) |
| 00:43.10 | Kirkburn | How can you possibly cast spells without lag? |
| 00:43.40 | JoshBork1 | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT is fired separately of UNIT_SPELLCAST_START |
| 00:44.02 | Tain | I thougth that FastCast addon was just a placebo. |
| 00:44.30 | ScytheBlade1 | FastCast is sadly dead, with no proper fix in the client |
| 00:45.58 | Garoun|Loupana | has ck converted fubar to work on BC or does the current version still work fine? |
| 00:46.01 | Corrodias | hmm. |
| 00:47.09 | Corrodias | Kirkburn: it modified the casting bar to show the -predicted- end of the spell based on your current latency, and i believe it allowed you to start casting another spell before the current one was confirmed by the server as "finished" |
| 00:47.36 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 00:47.39 | cladhaire | you can still display that info |
| 00:47.41 | Corrodias | if the new casting message reached the server before it was actually finished, though, it didn't make you cast. it just was intended to shave off that .2 to .4 seconds from back and forth delay |
| 00:47.42 | cladhaire | and click to do it |
| 00:48.00 | JoshBork1 | too many little patches :-( |
| 00:49.31 | Esamynn | JoshBork1: for the beta you mean? |
| 00:49.35 | JoshBork1 | yea |
| 00:49.48 | Tuller | well, it is in fact a beta :) |
| 00:50.03 | JoshBork1 | i demand a roll-up patch! rar! |
| 00:50.17 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag JoshBork1 |
| 00:50.26 | purl | ACTION fries JoshBork1 with a laser |
| 00:50.31 | JoshBork1 | ~whaleparry |
| 00:51.01 | Esamynn | that's only for blocking a ~whileslap n00b |
| 00:51.08 | JoshBork1 | ~whalebomb Esamynn |
| 00:51.10 | purl | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at Esamynn and hides. |
| 00:51.13 | Esamynn | s/whileslap/whaleslap/ |
| 00:51.26 | Esamynn | ~whaleparry |
| 00:51.40 | JoshBork1 | that's only for blocking a ~whaleslap n00b :-P |
| 00:51.47 | Esamynn | :P |
| 00:51.55 | Esamynn | ok, any whale attack :P |
| 00:52.04 | Esamynn | I was unaware there was more than one :P |
| 00:53.21 | Esamynn | ~whaleparry JoshBork1 |
| 00:53.23 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry JoshBork1's attacks. |
| 00:53.27 | Garoun|Loupana | that's a little odd |
| 00:53.36 | Garoun|Loupana | it won't let me spawn in ironforge on my cop[ied toon :/ |
| 00:53.57 | Garoun|Loupana | keeps kicking me back to character select |
| 00:54.04 | Esamynn | hmm, that continent server was having problems a moment ago |
| 00:54.10 | Esamynn | give it a couple minutes |
| 00:54.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's restarting |
| 00:54.18 | Esamynn | there was a server restart in progress |
| 00:54.44 | Esamynn | btw, i'll be online on the alliance side of Hellfire to invite ppl to the author's guild we have going |
| 00:54.49 | Kirkburn | Corrodias, like kLagmeter then? |
| 00:54.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Sane |
| 00:54.54 | ScytheBlade1 | *Same |
| 00:55.07 | Esamynn | just whisper Esamyn (with 1 n) |
| 00:55.21 | Esamynn | when the azeroth server comes back up anyways ;) |
| 00:55.38 | Garoun|Loupana | hellfire, how I killed thee |
| 00:55.48 | ckknight | weird, Kalimdor seems messed up on US as well |
| 00:55.53 | ckknight | can't log in to Mulgore |
| 00:56.15 | Esamynn | outland is down too, it's a full restart |
| 00:56.22 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 00:56.27 | ckknight | someone tell me when it comes back up |
| 00:56.29 | Kirkburn | Yup, can't log in at all |
| 00:56.30 | Esamynn | i'm in |
| 00:56.45 | Corrodias | Kirkburn: i am not aware of kLagmeter. |
| 00:56.51 | Kirkburn | EU Tempest Keep is down, Bloodmyst EU is up (apparently) |
| 00:57.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I just logged in |
| 00:57.11 | Kirkburn | Corrodias, not sure if it's standalone, but it does the same thing for OCB, Ace addon |
| 00:57.14 | Esamynn | and booted again |
| 00:57.23 | Corrodias | ocb? |
| 00:57.34 | Kirkburn | Otravi Castingbar |
| 00:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | .. and booted |
| 00:58.04 | Corrodias | i don't know that, either. however, it's entirely possible that it does the same thing, if it also allows you to send a cast command before the current spell is finished |
| 00:58.05 | JoshBork1 | ~devtools |
| 00:58.06 | purl | [devtools] Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta |
| 00:58.26 | Kirkburn | Corrodias, yeah I'm pretty sure it does :) |
| 01:01.22 | Kirkburn | Oh, b******s, I totally broke the UI - can't even show the main menu! :O |
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| 01:01.40 | Thunder_Child | gratz Kirkburn |
| 01:01.57 | ckknight | is there some way to make a child's alpha level separate from its parent's? |
| 01:02.00 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 01:02.14 | Amadeo | Warrior Rage generation is horrible :( |
| 01:04.14 | MentalPower | ckknight: not that I know of, that would kinda defeat the purpose of the parent/child relationship don't you think? |
| 01:04.27 | ckknight | :-( |
| 01:04.51 | ckknight | I want all the other properties of parenthood |
| 01:04.54 | ckknight | just not the alpha level |
| 01:04.55 | cladhaire | whatcha trying to do? |
| 01:05.01 | Kirkburn | Wow, the EU servers are completely buggered |
| 01:05.20 | ckknight | make WorldMapOverlay1-n not turn transparent when I make the rest of the WorldMap transparent |
| 01:05.37 | cladhaire | reparent them to a common parent |
| 01:05.37 | ckknight | I _could_ reparent, but I don't really feel like it |
| 01:05.40 | cladhaire | heh |
| 01:05.46 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:05.54 | ckknight | cladhaire, you check out Cartographer yet? |
| 01:06.01 | cladhaire | no, waht is it? |
| 01:06.11 | ckknight | world map mod |
| 01:06.18 | ckknight | all modular and efficient as possible |
| 01:06.23 | cladhaire | whats it do? |
| 01:06.28 | ckknight | MetaMap replacement |
| 01:06.31 | ckknight | essentially |
| 01:06.31 | DrDre | replaces metamap |
| 01:06.45 | cladhaire | hrm okay.. i'll have to look at metamap then |
| 01:06.45 | cladhaire | heh |
| 01:06.49 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:07.03 | ckknight | hang on... |
| 01:07.21 | cladhaire | hrm neat |
| 01:07.23 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer |
| 01:07.49 | cladhaire | neat |
| 01:09.20 | Tuller | so, is there a beta wiki, by chance? |
| 01:10.18 | Esamynn | nope |
| 01:10.24 | ckknight | wowwiki seems to work fine. |
| 01:16.33 | Tuller | yeah I ment to say if there was a section specifically setup for the beta changes :) |
| 01:16.54 | malreth | are we inviting just anyone into CastSpell/TargetUnit or is there a requirement? |
| 01:17.06 | MentalPower | any author that asks |
| 01:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I asked malreth there what mods he made, since I had no clue who he was :) |
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| 01:17.51 | ScytheBlade1 | (That and he didn't say anything, other than, "invite please") |
| 01:17.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 01:18.05 | MentalPower | basically the same invite rules as the Draka guilds |
| 01:20.31 | JoshBork1 | server back up yet? |
| 01:20.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun little fact: beta keeps running, even when your main account has expired. |
| 01:21.14 | malreth | ScytheBlade1: that's because my ego proceeds me. :D |
| 01:21.15 | Mery | even after they pushed the next wave of account updates (i.e. password changes)? |
| 01:21.21 | ScytheBlade1 | malreth, haha |
| 01:21.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Mery, my account died today (lost debit card, had it canceled and a new one shipped) |
| 01:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I guess we'll find out tuesday |
| 01:21.46 | Mery | =) |
| 01:22.02 | Esamynn | I think the account updates happen on mondays |
| 01:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I can login just fine |
| 01:23.28 | Industrial | Are the beta servers offline? |
| 01:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I just zoned in |
| 01:24.10 | Industrial | ok |
| 01:24.12 | malreth | outlands are down |
| 01:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I just zoned in |
| 01:24.38 | Industrial | im in ur beta stealin ur lore |
| 01:25.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:25.28 | JoshBork1 | who's in alliance on PvE? |
| 01:25.46 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, that doesn't seem to be working right :( |
| 01:25.48 | Cairenn | I've got them set up so anyone can invite, so just do a /who on the guild |
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| 01:26.09 | Garoun|Loupana | goofing off with druidbar, and if I don't have enough mana to go into a form it won't shift me out :( unless I click the same form I'm in |
| 01:26.28 | Mike-N-Go | So, how did that all turn out :P from when I left? |
| 01:26.40 | Warla | hmm question |
| 01:26.46 | Warla | is it possible to make a addon |
| 01:26.54 | Warla | that goes and checks who has you as target |
| 01:26.55 | Garoun|Loupana | could use an invite alliance side on Loupa :) |
| 01:27.06 | Warla | so lets say you stay in IF and 6 people have you targeted |
| 01:27.09 | Warla | it lists those 6 |
| 01:27.38 | Kirkburn | Hmm, the chat channels don't appear to be working on the beta server :/ |
| 01:27.47 | JoshBork1 | Warla: not without successively targeting them |
| 01:28.10 | Warla | snap |
| 01:29.40 | JoshBork1 | or mousing over |
| 01:31.03 | JoshBork1 | hrm, these events are weird |
| 01:31.32 | Mery | g'night |
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| 01:39.54 | Garoun|Loupana | interesting, my base armor in bear actaully went up in the expansion |
| 01:40.18 | Garoun|Loupana | 11863 armor with my current live gear |
| 01:40.30 | Garoun|Loupana | and no talents spent |
| 01:43.03 | Esamynn | it's 450% now...... |
| 01:43.10 | Esamynn | holy crap, I didn't notice that before |
| 01:43.31 | Arrowmaster | nerf bears |
| 01:43.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, no wonder that bear tanked the Fel Reaver |
| 01:44.44 | Esamynn | AND HEALTH BY 40% |
| 01:44.50 | Esamynn | it's not a set number anymore! |
| 01:44.52 | Esamynn | holy shit |
| 01:46.42 | Esamynn | Garoun|Loupana: oh, we can use items in forms now too |
| 01:46.48 | Esamynn | and interact with npcs |
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| 01:49.27 | malreth | ~reavers |
| 01:49.31 | purl | I don't mean to alarm anybody, but I think... we're being followed. |
| 01:50.42 | GremWarsong | Hmm...im trying to create a texture with LUA and then set it's texture |
| 01:50.51 | GremWarsong | when I do: tex:SetTexture( 1, 0, 0 ); |
| 01:50.53 | GremWarsong | It shows it red |
| 01:51.00 | GremWarsong | But when I try to set it to a texture file, it doesnt display at all |
| 01:51.13 | GremWarsong | tex:SetTexture("interface\worldstateframe\allianceflag") |
| 01:51.18 | GremWarsong | That wont display it at all |
| 01:51.27 | GremWarsong | Only displays if I set it to a solid color, anyone have any idea why that might occur? |
| 01:52.14 | JoshBork1 | GremWarsong: check your path |
| 01:52.22 | JoshBork1 | interface\addons\<addon>\<file> |
| 01:52.31 | GremWarsong | That texture is valid |
| 01:52.39 | GremWarsong | It works if I set it in the XML |
| 01:54.25 | GremWarsong | hmm |
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| 01:57.31 | GremWarsong | Damnit, why wont this work |
| 01:57.37 | GremWarsong | Seems like SetTexture wont work at all |
| 01:58.24 | Esamynn | GremWarsong: paste the path string you are using ;) |
| 01:58.27 | Esamynn | I think I know what the problem is |
| 01:58.42 | GremWarsong | tex:SetTexture("interface\worldstateframe\allianceflag"); |
| 01:58.49 | Esamynn | use \\ |
| 01:58.58 | Esamynn | \ is a delimiter in Lua |
| 01:59.05 | Esamynn | sorry |
| 01:59.09 | Esamynn | i mean an escape character |
| 01:59.10 | GremWarsong | Awesome! =) |
| 01:59.11 | GremWarsong | That worked |
| 01:59.15 | GremWarsong | Thanks a million |
| 01:59.23 | Esamynn | you're welcome |
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| 02:03.47 | GremWarsong | Okay, now I need to draw a line from one point to another |
| 02:03.55 | GremWarsong | This should be delightfully painful |
| 02:04.15 | GremWarsong | Any suggestions? |
| 02:04.51 | Esamynn | umm |
| 02:04.57 | Esamynn | you could look at the taxi UI ;) |
| 02:05.07 | GremWarsong | Hmm |
| 02:05.13 | GremWarsong | Solid plan |
| 02:05.33 | GremWarsong | Something tells me it wont be visible code though |
| 02:05.38 | GremWarsong | probably internal |
| 02:06.35 | GremWarsong | DrawRouteLine(line, "TaxiRouteMap", sX, sY, dX, dY, 32); |
| 02:06.52 | GremWarsong | Wow, sure enough, it's all here |
| 02:06.55 | GremWarsong | Thanks for the suggestion =) |
| 02:09.43 | MentalPower | thats Iriel's code BTW :) |
| 02:11.46 | GremWarsong | Nice |
| 02:12.37 | cladhaire | wtf.. queue on live? |
| 02:12.42 | cladhaire | people play live still? |
| 02:14.22 | Tem | my thoughts exactly, clad |
| 02:15.22 | JoshBork1 | lol cladhaire |
| 02:33.13 | SP|Sorren` | if i wanted to bind alt+6 to something, would i do /script SetBindingSpell("ALT+6", "Volley")? |
| 02:34.16 | Kirkburn | Omg, level 61 blood elf on a hawkstrider! |
| 02:34.40 | Esamynn | heh, cool |
| 02:35.00 | Esamynn | heard about the 67 BE paladin (the one that was that high in alpha) |
| 02:35.08 | Esamynn | probably level 70 now |
| 02:35.09 | Kirkburn | Bachi, and no :P |
| 02:35.33 | Tain | Did they raise the level limit to 70 yet? |
| 02:35.38 | Esamynn | yes |
| 02:35.41 | Esamynn | last patch |
| 02:35.42 | Cairenn | yes |
| 02:35.45 | Kirkburn | Okay, that joke didn't work, why did you have to ask a question straight after? |
| 02:35.47 | Cairenn | what es said |
| 02:35.52 | Kirkburn | sheesh |
| 02:36.18 | Kirkburn | Admittedly it wasn't a 'genius' level joke :) |
| 02:36.30 | Cairenn | so, is there anyone in here that should have received a key and it still hasn't arrived yet? |
| 02:36.57 | End | hey Cairenn! thank you! |
| 02:37.36 | End | also, the outlands side of the dark portal is fucking huge |
| 02:37.39 | Kirkburn | I'm the only one on the EU alliance guild atm :( |
| 02:37.42 | AnduinLothar | hmmm. think i can get a 2nd key... for ... um... something |
| 02:37.50 | End | also, I'm getting strange errors in the feedback thingy |
| 02:38.37 | Corrodias | GTA:SA is just so damn buggy |
| 02:38.41 | AnduinLothar | maybe i can use it for a gnome drop off the feralis platou |
| 02:38.49 | Tain | Buggy? Try Neverwinter Nights 2. |
| 02:39.07 | End | nwn2 wasn't that bad for me |
| 02:39.23 | End | I did get some crashes in the shadow king's place though |
| 02:39.31 | End | er, king of shadows, whatever |
| 02:39.38 | End | heheh |
| 02:39.41 | JoshBork1 | i have got to quit afk'ing while modding, lol |
| 02:39.53 | End | apparently my addon is "Incomptible" |
| 02:39.58 | End | er |
| 02:40.00 | End | I can spel |
| 02:40.09 | End | (incompatible) |
| 02:40.24 | Esamynn | addons with pre-2.0 interface numbers aren't loaded |
| 02:40.27 | Thunder_Child | (spell) |
| 02:40.29 | Esamynn | because of the massive changes |
| 02:40.35 | End | yeah, I just noticed that |
| 02:40.58 | Thunder_Child | i'm afraid that didnt help your case any |
| 02:41.18 | JoshBork1 | anyone with experience with the new spellcast events? |
| 02:42.30 | End | interesting... |
| 02:45.54 | GremWarsong | Does LUA have any sort of 'object' management so that I can create like, an instance of a class, that contains values |
| 02:46.11 | MentalPower | yes |
| 02:46.12 | GremWarsong | Or is tables pretty much everything |
| 02:46.24 | MentalPower | tables do double duty as classes |
| 02:46.33 | GremWarsong | I see |
| 02:46.39 | MentalPower | SomeClass:SomeMethod() |
| 02:47.04 | MentalPower | equivalent to SomeClass.SomeMethod(SomeClass) |
| 02:47.09 | GremWarsong | Right |
| 02:47.44 | Mike-N-Go | What does "GetCVar()" do differently then "GetRealmName()"? |
| 02:47.49 | GremWarsong | Also, is there a way to get the key of the last entry in a table? |
| 02:47.54 | Adrine | CVars are the options in config.wtf |
| 02:48.13 | Adrine | foo[table.getn(foo)] |
| 02:48.20 | MentalPower | GremWarsong: define last |
| 02:48.20 | Adrine | Err, wait, the key. >_> |
| 02:48.28 | Adrine | If it's a hash, there is no "last" key. |
| 02:48.30 | Inside | So when are the stripping ranks? |
| 02:48.35 | Inside | Is that in TBC or in a patch before that? |
| 02:49.25 | cladhaire | they dont' strip them |
| 02:49.28 | cladhaire | you get to keep your ranks. |
| 02:49.32 | GremWarsong | Uhm, the last entry I inserted into the table |
| 02:49.33 | cladhaire | but not until the PVp revamp |
| 02:49.34 | malreth | GremWarsong: http://www.lua.org/pil/13.4.html |
| 02:49.35 | cladhaire | whenever that is. |
| 02:49.57 | JoshBork1 | hrm, stupid spellcast events |
| 02:50.04 | JoshBork1 | not nearly as useful as i had hoped :-( |
| 02:50.14 | cladhaire | why not? |
| 02:50.16 | Inside | You keep ranks, yes. |
| 02:50.21 | malreth | GremWarsong: you can write a custom metatable method that keeps track of the newest key/value added to the table |
| 02:50.23 | Inside | I'm just wondering how long to PVP whore to rank up >_> |
| 02:50.26 | Inside | I want a cool rank |
| 02:50.34 | malreth | otherwise, there's no built-in method to do so |
| 02:51.07 | GremWarsong | Gotcha |
| 02:51.15 | JoshBork1 | cladhaire: hm, it might be somewhat useful |
| 02:51.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:51.28 | JoshBork1 | UNIT_SPELLCAST_START gets fired along with UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START |
| 02:51.29 | cladhaire | inside: until the pvp patch |
| 02:51.36 | cladhaire | JoshBork1: yep |
| 02:51.39 | Mike-N-Go | Inside, months. |
| 02:52.05 | JoshBork1 | hrm, but that's no good |
| 02:53.55 | JoshBork1 | how'm i supposed to handle that? |
| 02:54.52 | Adrine | Is there any way to get info on the item held by the cursor? |
| 02:55.25 | MentalPower | Adrine: nop |
| 02:55.41 | MentalPower | there is a library to handle that tho |
| 02:56.07 | Adrine | Ooh, name? |
| 02:56.17 | MentalPower | looking for it, one sec |
| 03:02.47 | Gello | for *item* on cursor, loop through bags and inventory and see if one item is locked. if so, that's on cursor |
| 03:03.15 | Adrine | Oh, that's easy enough, duh. Thanks, Gello. |
| 03:04.00 | MentalPower | Adrine: can't find the library, but Gello's suggestion works quite well |
| 03:04.11 | Adrine | That'll do it for me |
| 03:04.49 | Esamynn | aren't items that are in the mail slot, or Auction slot get locked as well? |
| 03:05.26 | Adrine | Bleh, that's a good point. |
| 03:05.38 | Gello | that's a good question. i wouldn't consider the above method to recognize items from all sources |
| 03:05.58 | Gello | but imho it's preferrable to the alternative of hooking all pickup functions |
| 03:06.24 | Adrine | I suppose I can just not run my function if I find multiple locked items. |
| 03:06.39 | Gello | oh yeah make sure just one is locked |
| 03:07.03 | Gello | it's "harmless" if an item is on cursor from another source. your mod just won't see it if you use that method |
| 03:07.28 | Adrine | Well, in my case it would result in incorrect data, so not quite harmless, but not a huge deal. |
| 03:08.21 | Gello | ah :( the alternative is to hook all the pickup functions, see if something is on cursor pre-hook, catch the source post-hook if it picked something up |
| 03:08.53 | End | urk |
| 03:09.31 | End | so every time I reloadui, I get an error involving the feedback crap involving the text of one of my quests, and abonding quests in randomly causing WoW to hang for about 30 seconds |
| 03:09.57 | End | er, abandoning |
| 03:10.18 | End | also... |
| 03:10.24 | End | it's not abandoning the right quests |
| 03:10.39 | Gello | yeah something is screwy with beta and quests. it also has a small lockup when a quest objective updates |
| 03:10.59 | End | hmm, I'm gonna see if I can isolate the issue a bit |
| 03:11.11 | Gello | seems to be a default ui problem. errors on mouseover of quest rewards too, with no mods installed |
| 03:11.29 | End | well |
| 03:11.34 | Thunder_Child | is it because of the responses they want you to give about each quest? |
| 03:11.37 | End | I disabled all addons, including the feedback one |
| 03:11.39 | End | and now it works fine |
| 03:11.54 | Gello | oh i kept feedback enabled |
| 03:11.56 | End | I wonder if their feedback addon is buggy |
| 03:12.15 | Gello | i disabled all but feedback, figuring that was safe hehe |
| 03:12.16 | End | I'm running out of quests to get rid of though |
| 03:12.31 | MentalPower | yes, the feedback addon is buggy |
| 03:12.39 | Gello | good to know |
| 03:12.44 | End | well screw it, I'll just disabled it |
| 03:12.50 | End | I suppose I could make a bug report... |
| 03:12.59 | End | but then I'd have to reenable it, wouldn't I |
| 03:13.00 | Thunder_Child | odd, i never had any problems with it |
| 03:13.20 | MentalPower | its only certain quests that it bugs with |
| 03:13.35 | End | it's all old quests for me |
| 03:13.41 | End | all sorts of old quests |
| 03:16.08 | Tain | Ok... they really could have spent a little time rolling these patches up. |
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| 03:16.28 | cladhaire | SAYS YOU! |
| 03:16.33 | Kaligar | ive had errors from the feedback onload from certain quests |
| 03:17.07 | Mike-N-Go | Ehh, http://pastey.net/2415, I did something wrong, lol |
| 03:17.31 | MentalPower | Tain: we all prefer frequent updates, even if they are a bit rough on the edges |
| 03:18.58 | Tain | Which has... nothing at all to do with what I said. |
| 03:19.57 | MentalPower | what did you mean then> |
| 03:19.59 | MentalPower | ? |
| 03:21.10 | MentalPower | Mike-N-Go: line1, should be something like "AMDRealm = GetCVar("realmName")" or "AMDRealm = GetRealmName()" |
| 03:21.31 | Mike-N-Go | I know, it got lost in all the debugging. |
| 03:22.00 | Mike-N-Go | I had a lot of trouble when another var was nil.. |
| 03:22.17 | Tain | Taking all of those frequent updates and making them into a single update rather than someone installing new and having to download six or seven little patches from the past instead of one. |
| 03:22.25 | Mike-N-Go | So, I said--if not AnotherVar then |
| 03:22.49 | Mike-N-Go | Before it would have printed to the chat frame. |
| 03:23.33 | Mike-N-Go | That scared me, for when it was yet undefined. |
| 03:23.37 | Mike-N-Go | :( |
| 03:26.44 | JoshBork1 | will this work? ... = {a,b,c,d}? |
| 03:29.34 | Tain | I find it humorous that the Blood Elf intro talks all about mastering magic... for my Rogue. |
| 03:30.30 | JoshBork1 | welp, g'night all |
| 03:30.34 | MentalPower | JoshBork1: nop |
| 03:30.46 | MentalPower | you can't assign to ... |
| 03:30.57 | Thunder_Child | he has masterd the magic of not having any |
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| 03:44.31 | SP|Sorren` | thank goodness for regular expressions |
| 03:46.47 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, unless you guys see something wrong, I think I have finished stage 1 of my addon! |
| 03:47.23 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/2416 |
| 03:48.54 | malreth | remove AMDChat.a and don't pass it as an arg to any of the AddMessages() |
| 03:49.08 | MentalPower | GetRealmName() does not require a parameter |
| 03:50.11 | MentalPower | don't the RGB values have to be in the 0-1 range? |
| 03:50.46 | Mike-N-Go | It was to dark when I did it that way. |
| 03:51.35 | malreth | confirmed... rgb values are [0-1] |
| 03:51.52 | malreth | at least for AddMessage() |
| 03:52.07 | Mike-N-Go | MB it is the alpha that does that? |
| 03:52.32 | MentalPower | *there is no alpha in :AddMessage()* |
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| 03:53.47 | Mike-N-Go | Yup, MB it is the id:http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ScrollingMessageFrame_AddMessage |
| 03:53.59 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ScrollingMessageFrame_AddMessage * |
| 03:54.14 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:54.20 | MentalPower | you shoudn't be adding an ID anyways |
| 03:54.31 | MentalPower | hey ckknight |
| 03:54.37 | malreth | leave the ID parameter nil or unspecified |
| 03:54.37 | Mike-N-Go | What does id do? |
| 03:54.50 | malreth | "A number that classifies the line of text, for later changing the color" |
| 03:56.02 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/2417 |
| 03:56.10 | malreth | unless you're creating a new message type, you shouldn't use it |
| 03:56.13 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, that is with your 'changes'. |
| 03:56.20 | Mike-N-Go | Sure |
| 03:56.31 | Mike-N-Go | I riped out the id's |
| 03:56.34 | Mike-N-Go | ripped* |
| 03:56.42 | MentalPower | change "^(.+)%s(%w+)$" to "^(.+)%s*(%w+)$" |
| 03:57.04 | Mike-N-Go | What does that do? |
| 03:57.29 | Nom_ | that will only match a single whitespace in the middle, MentalPower |
| 03:57.38 | Nom_ | So you'd need to be sure it's only a single whitespace...always |
| 03:57.48 | MentalPower | the first or the second? |
| 03:57.51 | Mike-N-Go | I need what's tere for "Trade Goods" |
| 03:58.02 | Mike-N-Go | s/tere/there |
| 03:58.07 | Nom_ | Oh, you did %s* ... never mind |
| 03:58.11 | Nom_ | But then again, that's 0 or more |
| 03:58.19 | Nom_ | So you probably want %s+ if there's always whitespace |
| 03:58.37 | Nom_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcXLE-wvVBw |
| 03:58.55 | Mike-N-Go | The current things for slash commands are item type, and recipient. |
| 03:59.22 | Mike-N-Go | Trade Goods is the only thing that needs a space. |
| 03:59.58 | MentalPower | --/amd Trade Goods someCharacterName |
| 04:00.01 | MentalPower | should be fine |
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| 04:00.57 | MentalPower | but yeah, change the "%s" to a "%s+" |
| 04:01.05 | Garoun|Loupana | anyone seen ckknight around? |
| 04:01.49 | MentalPower | that will guard against "/amd someType someCharName" |
| 04:02.24 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, then, what say you. |
| 04:03.32 | Mike-N-Go | What about "/amd someType someCharName |
| 04:06.10 | malreth | i wanna say that the api code trims whitespace automatically |
| 04:10.52 | Mike-N-Go | Cy send me the chunk, that you wanted me to use? |
| 04:11.06 | Mike-N-Go | s/Cy/Can |
| 04:11.18 | Mike-N-Go | How does this thing work, lol |
| 04:11.22 | Gngsk | huh |
| 04:11.26 | Gngsk | s/huh/yea/ |
| 04:12.17 | Mike-N-Go | Cy send me the chunk, that you wanted me to use? |
| 04:12.23 | Mike-N-Go | s/Cy/Can/ |
| 04:15.32 | Mike-N-Go | MentalPower, what was the line you wanted me to use? |
| 04:16.19 | MentalPower | "^(.+)%s+(%w+)$" |
| 04:16.27 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks. |
| 04:17.19 | Mike-N-Go | Is there anything else you see? |
| 04:20.24 | MentalPower | nop |
| 04:20.49 | Mike-N-Go | How about the toc and Bindings.xml |
| 04:20.51 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/2419 |
| 04:23.03 | MentalPower | I don't think you need to include Bindings.xml in the toc file |
| 04:23.39 | Mike-N-Go | What else can I put in the toc? |
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| 04:25.49 | ckknight | Garoun|Loupana, boom. |
| 04:26.14 | Garoun|Loupana | heya :) |
| 04:26.27 | ckknight | what's the issue? |
| 04:26.29 | Garoun|Loupana | was checking if fubar was working or not :P |
| 04:26.38 | ckknight | I don't see why it wouldn't be. |
| 04:26.44 | Garoun|Loupana | I haven't tried just loading it up in the bC client, I'll give it a go now :) |
| 04:27.14 | ckknight | make sure you get the standalone Ace2 TBC branch. |
| 04:27.24 | Garoun|Loupana | k, I'll pick that up also |
| 04:27.38 | ckknight | oh, and test Cartographer. |
| 04:29.02 | Garoun|Loupana | are they all bc compliant? |
| 04:29.14 | Garoun|Loupana | if so I'll just go straight for 16947 |
| 04:31.33 | ckknight | yes, Garoun|Loupana |
| 04:33.36 | Mike-N-Go | I was wondering about licensing, http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php, http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php, or http://www.opensource.org/licenses/fair.php, Humm |
| 04:34.24 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, we'll see how much my character blows up upon loading :) |
| 04:36.15 | ckknight | licensing for what? |
| 04:36.52 | malreth | i release my addons under the BSD license |
| 04:37.02 | malreth | the MIT one is also a good one |
| 04:37.31 | malreth | since all addons are loaded into the same memory space, I cannot justify using the GPL |
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| 04:37.53 | malreth | i agree with their philosophy, but it's viral nature means all other addons loaded must also be GPLed |
| 04:38.39 | Mike-N-Go | To protect the intellectual property |
| 04:38.42 | ckknight | I tend not to attach a license. I don't want people stealing my code without consulting me first. |
| 04:39.03 | ckknight | granted, I'm not a dick, and if people ask, I'll typically allow it, except in special circumstances |
| 04:39.28 | malreth | copyright alone will protect your IP |
| 04:39.35 | ckknight | sure will |
| 04:39.40 | malreth | and just by writing it down, it's copyrighted |
| 04:40.10 | ckknight | all rights reserved by default. |
| 04:40.12 | malreth | i use the BSD because i want people to use my code |
| 04:40.55 | Mike-N-Go | How do I (c)? |
| 04:41.06 | malreth | you don't have to |
| 04:41.16 | malreth | but if you want to... |
| 04:41.34 | malreth | Copyright (c) 2006, Your Actual Name |
| 04:41.45 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, so far, not so good :P |
| 04:41.56 | ckknight | yep, just put that at the top of you lua files. |
| 04:42.24 | malreth | if after jan 1 2007, you modify your code and republish: Copyright (c) 2006-2007, Your Name |
| 04:42.57 | Mike-N-Go | What I want is a) not be responsible for if it breaks something b) allow others to modify it as long as the license is attached |
| 04:43.12 | malreth | MIT is sufficient for that |
| 04:43.26 | ckknight | yea, just attach MIT or BSD |
| 04:43.30 | malreth | I went with the BSD to keep other people from using my name to promote their products |
| 04:43.51 | ckknight | it's basically, do what you want with it, give me credit, don't blame me if you create an evil killer robot |
| 04:44.22 | Mike-N-Go | ~award ckknight |
| 04:45.21 | Garoun|Loupana | bah, time to disable everything except the mod I'm testing |
| 04:45.40 | Mike-N-Go | What is different between MIT and BSD? |
| 04:45.53 | Mike-N-Go | member:identifier:garoun|loupana: Just run it on a alt |
| 04:46.16 | Garoun|Loupana | well my ui is still in pieces right now :) so I don't mind hacking it up hehe |
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| 04:47.00 | Mike-N-Go | Did you backup |
| 04:47.02 | Mike-N-Go | ? |
| 04:47.08 | Garoun|Loupana | always |
| 04:47.35 | Garoun|Loupana | fubar just doesn't like me right now |
| 04:49.26 | Garoun|Loupana | just have clearfont, ief, and fubar loading right now |
| 04:49.32 | Garoun|Loupana | or trying to at least |
| 04:49.54 | malreth | Mike-N-Go: difference is just the endorsement clause |
| 04:50.25 | Mike-N-Go | I am new to this world of licensing, what is that? |
| 04:50.26 | malreth | BSD states that none of the listed authors' names may be used to endorse or promote any derived software without permission |
| 04:51.26 | malreth | if you took a piece of my Ensemble code and used it in your addon, the license prevents you from calling your addon "Mike's Super Addon with Malreth's Uber Code" |
| 04:51.40 | malreth | even if it is true |
| 04:52.42 | malreth | the MIT license doesn't have that clause... it's just a personal preference, really |
| 04:53.18 | Mike-N-Go | Who do I put for "Referrer" for the register on WoWInterface? |
| 04:53.37 | Mike-N-Go | MentalPower, Norgs, want to be my referee? |
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| 04:54.19 | MentalPower | put whoever you want, that field is not used ATM anyways |
| 04:54.31 | Garoun|Loupana | wow, talk about strict on the addons page |
| 04:55.36 | Garoun|Loupana | ok good news ck, finally got it to load :) |
| 04:56.00 | Garoun|Loupana | lets see where I can go from here hehe, had to update toc though... BC really doesn't like "incompatible" even with load out of date checked |
| 04:57.00 | malreth | does anyone know if SendWho() is a protected function in 2.0? |
| 04:57.13 | MentalPower | malreth: I don't think so |
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| 05:03.19 | malreth | ok... it's not. confirmed |
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| 05:07.17 | Garoun|Loupana | that wasn't pretty, lotsa errors all over with some of my plugins :( |
| 05:08.14 | ckknight | one step at a time |
| 05:08.19 | Garoun|Loupana | ye[ |
| 05:08.21 | Garoun|Loupana | er yep |
| 05:08.30 | Garoun|Loupana | forgot to disable prat, that is blowing up big time |
| 05:10.36 | Garoun|Loupana | major error in most fo the plugins I'm getting is AceHook-2.0 is deprecated in WoW 2.0 |
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| 05:11.41 | ckknight | yea, it is. |
| 05:11.48 | ckknight | can't use AceHook-2.0 in WoW 2.0 |
| 05:12.27 | Garoun|Loupana | would love to get bugsack working, really don't like ief :/ |
| 05:13.14 | ckknight | Bugsack works in TBC |
| 05:13.16 | ckknight | update. |
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| 05:18.46 | Garoun|Loupana | next :) |
| 05:22.37 | Garoun|Loupana | much better |
| 05:26.06 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, that's just weird being able to see what targets are casting |
| 05:27.42 | Neuro_Medivh | Ahh, finally get into beta? |
| 05:29.14 | Garoun|Loupana | more of testing :) |
| 05:29.23 | Garoun|Loupana | I have yet to even venture to the dark portal |
| 05:31.28 | Garoun|Loupana | and of course every time I target someone to test the enemy cast bar stuff, they stop casting :P |
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| 05:33.25 | Kenman | any wowi mods/admins on? |
| 05:33.45 | Kenman | err nm |
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| 05:37.06 | Adrine | WoW 1.13/2.0 is apparently going up on the PTRs right now |
| 05:38.42 | Kaligar | : |
| 05:38.44 | Kaligar | :( |
| 05:39.03 | Kaligar | death of alot of mods inc |
| 05:39.13 | Kaligar | esp hunter mods! |
| 05:39.19 | Garoun|Loupana | too many complainers :P |
| 05:39.53 | Kaligar | man they killed icu and tracker assist |
| 05:39.53 | Kaligar | i have a right to complain |
| 05:40.14 | Tain | Sure you have a right to complain. They just don't have an obligation to listen. |
| 05:40.44 | Garoun|Loupana | and yes, you have every right to complain :) and many more will |
| 05:41.07 | ScytheBlade1 | A lot of people are in for a shock, heh |
| 05:41.18 | ScytheBlade1 | When they realize that the BC "UI NERF" hits them also |
| 05:42.00 | End | most will just have to upgrade their addons |
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| 05:42.20 | Tain | Nerf is a strong term. There are a lot of positive changes and enchancements. |
| 05:42.52 | Tain | But it does mean changes, so yes many people will have to update or they will feel like they've lost things. |
| 05:43.53 | Kaligar | they nerfed tracking/targetting :P |
| 05:43.53 | Kaligar | tracking in pvp is usless now |
| 05:43.59 | End | I don't see how they nerfed tracking, unless you mean targetting things you are tracking |
| 05:44.17 | Kaligar | and finding out what the target is |
| 05:44.35 | Garoun|Loupana | moneyfu has an error at 335, arithmetic on field '? |
| 05:44.36 | Tain | It's a purely egocentric view of mine but I can't manage to generate an ounce of concern about anything that affects PVP. |
| 05:44.39 | Garoun|Loupana | ' (nil) |
| 05:44.43 | Kaligar | tracking is a bit usless wen you just have a name |
| 05:44.48 | Garoun|Loupana | in moneyfu.lua |
| 05:44.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh |
| 05:44.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The whole fact that you know the unit is there... useless? |
| 05:45.00 | Tain | That's vastly overstating things. |
| 05:45.15 | Kaligar | pretty much |
| 05:45.16 | Tain | Tracking is hardly useless. Different, absolutely. |
| 05:45.29 | Tain | Less useful? If you're using it to target, without a doubt. |
| 05:45.38 | Kaligar | lets see you are fighting thing and a blip show up |
| 05:45.46 | Tain | Useless? See that just tosses all credibility out the window by saying that. |
| 05:45.51 | Kaligar | before you could tell if it was an ennemy or not |
| 05:46.00 | Kaligar | and prepare for it |
| 05:46.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I think what you want is "Stalking" |
| 05:46.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Not "Tracking" |
| 05:46.23 | Tain | You probably hate that Vanish gets rid of Mark too. |
| 05:46.35 | Kaligar | your obviously not a hunter :P |
| 05:46.48 | Kaligar | nop couldnt care less about that |
| 05:46.58 | Kaligar | any smart hunter would serpent sting |
| 05:47.08 | Tain | By the way, happy 16th Birthday to the World Wide Web. |
| 05:47.40 | Kaligar | hasnt it been around since the 70's |
| 05:47.49 | Tain | The Web? No. |
| 05:47.52 | zenzelezz | the Internet has, not the WWW |
| 05:47.54 | Tain | The Internet, absolutely. |
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| 05:48.10 | Adrine | Beast Within basically means that hunters don't care about rogues at all, from my experience :P |
| 05:48.20 | Tain | Gopher was around long before, which was somewhat the predecessor to the web. |
| 05:48.32 | Kaligar | not everyony is a gimp solo hunter :P |
| 05:49.31 | Kaligar | hmm i just got an arcane crystal from a stv |
| 05:49.38 | Kaligar | pro |
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| 05:58.34 | Adrine | Maexxna to 15%. She's dying tonight. :D |
| 05:59.53 | Thunder_Child | or you are |
| 05:59.55 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 06:00.07 | Thunder_Child | either way it should be a good show..no? |
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| 06:05.06 | Adrine | We've wiped 4x so far, but it's our first night on her. |
| 06:05.09 | Adrine | I think we'll get her this time. |
| 06:05.18 | Adrine | 79%, 68%, 37%, 15%. |
| 06:10.20 | malreth | tonight we grabbed an assortment of raid org members and attacked Huhu on a whim with no flasks... and killed her on the first try |
| 06:14.37 | Adrine | Nice! |
| 06:18.10 | Esamynn | Adrine: depends, there is really a world of difference between 15% and dead ;) |
| 06:18.17 | Esamynn | that enrage is quite nasty |
| 06:19.05 | Adrine | Heh, yeah. We've got the makeup for it - we just timed the first web wrap really poorly. |
| 06:19.31 | Esamynn | oh ouch |
| 06:21.57 | Adrine | You know, the worst thing about raid wipes is that I can't reload my UI to work on mods without it forcing me to release :/ |
| 06:23.32 | Adrine | Also, after BC, runecloth bandaids seem to ineffective. |
| 06:23.51 | Adrine | With Quick Recovery, I heal just over 4k damage with a Heavy Netherweave |
| 06:23.55 | zenzelezz | after? They're already far too poor |
| 06:24.10 | Adrine | Well, right. But with a basis for comparison, they just feel like they're making no dent at all. |
| 06:24.53 | zenzelezz | already feels that way to me :-p Well, they do heal, but having I'm usually still far short of max health after bandaging |
| 06:25.54 | Adrine | Certainly |
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| 06:26.55 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, why would I have a reason to use Claw in cat form if I have mangle... |
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| 06:42.46 | Garoun|Loupana | I think hellfire is broken again :( |
| 06:43.14 | Garoun|Loupana | not that it isn't to be expected ;) |
| 06:50.34 | Esamynn | ~lart Garoun|Loupana |
| 06:50.41 | Esamynn | Garoun|Loupana: that's for breaking Hellfire! :P |
| 06:53.07 | Garoun|Loupana | ;) |
| 06:53.11 | Garoun|Loupana | I do my best |
| 06:53.27 | Garoun|Loupana | bed time and more breaking of stuff tomorrow :P |
| 06:56.48 | Mike-N-Go | I am about to upload my file to wowinterface.com, I am on mac what format does it need to be in, the compression? |
| 06:57.48 | Kaligar | zip |
| 06:58.02 | Mike-N-Go | ok |
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| 07:17.51 | s|loup | hi |
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| 07:19.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 07:19.53 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:20.28 | Esamynn | not him again.... |
| 07:21.04 | Thunder_Child | are they updating atlas for bc? |
| 07:21.30 | Esamynn | i mean, hey ckknight, how goes it! 8) |
| 07:21.48 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, you are a sucky lier |
| 07:22.06 | Thunder_Child | and i am a sucky speller |
| 07:22.07 | ckknight | Esamynn, what would Jesus do? |
| 07:22.19 | Thunder_Child | he would win at WoW |
| 07:22.24 | Esamynn | ckknight: hoesntly? I don't care |
| 07:22.36 | ckknight | no, he'd probably come up with some story about sheep and try to relate it to our lives. |
| 07:22.55 | chuckg_ | He'd pass you the bread. |
| 07:23.02 | chuckg_ | You're a bad religioner. |
| 07:23.39 | Thunder_Child | i am a godless apostate |
| 07:24.29 | Esamynn | ~logs |
| 07:24.31 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
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| 07:25.41 | ckknight | apostate? |
| 07:25.48 | ckknight | chuckg_, fix your name |
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| 07:26.08 | chuckg | Win. |
| 07:26.16 | chuckg | I hate that I can't auto identify. |
| 07:26.22 | Thunder_Child | does purl do definitions? |
| 07:26.47 | Esamynn | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 07:26.58 | Thunder_Child | i am unemulateable |
| 07:27.09 | Esamynn | ~emulate Iriel |
| 07:27.10 | purl | I have 2 part-time gnomes, perl, and java, which do some of the heavy lifting, but they require constant supervision. |
| 07:27.28 | Esamynn | haha |
| 07:27.49 | Thunder_Child | lolz |
| 07:27.55 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 07:28.02 | Esamynn | hmm, an emulate for Thunder_Child .................... |
| 07:28.30 | Thunder_Child | bad spelling |
| 07:29.09 | Thunder_Child | ~define apostate |
| 07:29.10 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 07:29.17 | Thunder_Child | bleh |
| 07:29.27 | Thunder_Child | ~dict apostate |
| 07:29.42 | ckknight | ah, okay. |
| 07:30.05 | Thunder_Child | well, that doesnt describe me..i have never been religious |
| 07:30.17 | Thunder_Child | damn, wrong word |
| 07:30.29 | Esamynn | purl, emulate Thunder_Child is (<reply> <insert random sarcastic comment here>|<action> intentionally mis-interprets the last comment and makes a snide remark) |
| 07:30.30 | purl | okay, Esamynn |
| 07:30.34 | Esamynn | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 07:30.36 | purl | ACTION intentionally mis-interprets the last comment and makes a snide remark |
| 07:30.46 | Esamynn | :P |
| 07:31.16 | Thunder_Child | cute |
| 07:31.29 | Thunder_Child | i can do snide remarks as well |
| 07:31.34 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 07:31.59 | Thunder_Child | purl is stealing all my lines :( |
| 07:32.08 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 07:32.08 | purl | Esamynn: thanks |
| 07:32.30 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: all ment in good fun of course! 8) |
| 07:33.05 | Thunder_Child | i dont have any other way :) |
| 07:33.32 | End | so |
| 07:33.33 | Esamynn | lets see, what else do we have in here |
| 07:33.36 | Esamynn | ~emulate purl |
| 07:33.42 | purl | ACTION tries to look like itself. |
| 07:33.45 | Esamynn | ~emulate cair |
| 07:33.46 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 07:33.51 | Esamynn | ~emulate tem |
| 07:33.53 | purl | Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]! |
| 07:33.54 | End | I just realized how dependant I am on addons that manage my inventory |
| 07:34.13 | Esamynn | ~emulate ckknight |
| 07:34.15 | purl | ACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 07:34.19 | End | haha |
| 07:34.23 | Esamynn | haha |
| 07:34.27 | End | story of ckknight's life |
| 07:34.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:34.43 | Esamynn | ~emulate End |
| 07:34.44 | purl | ACTION gets distracted. |
| 07:34.44 | ckknight | I have a few more than that |
| 07:34.47 | ckknight | ~emulate ckknight |
| 07:34.48 | purl | You know why? Because you touch yourself at night |
| 07:34.53 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 07:34.57 | Thunder_Child | damn, it's true |
| 07:35.12 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate malreth |
| 07:35.14 | purl | your hate makes you strong, thunder_child |
| 07:35.49 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 07:35.51 | purl | ACTION pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP* |
| 07:36.16 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 07:36.17 | purl | ACTION pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP* |
| 07:36.34 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 07:36.35 | purl | ACTION picks up a bug swatter ... *splat* ... *splat* ... Ewww, that was a big one... |
| 07:36.36 | ckknight | ~literal emulate slouken |
| 07:36.38 | purl | "emulate slouken" is "<action> pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP*||<action>picks up a bug swatter ... *splat* ... *splat* ... Ewww, that was a big one..." |
| 07:36.49 | Esamynn | I knew there was another one in there ;) |
| 07:36.50 | End | ~emulate Esamynn |
| 07:36.52 | purl | What?! The bot doesn't have <insert command here> learned yet?!! I must show it the light. |
| 07:37.28 | Esamynn | ~emulate norgs |
| 07:37.45 | Esamynn | hmmm....... |
| 07:38.06 | Esamynn | ~emulate AnduinLothar |
| 07:38.09 | purl | You aren't finished developing until you can't remove anythign else. |
| 07:38.25 | Esamynn | more like can't ADD anything else! :P |
| 07:38.46 | End | like archaeologist? |
| 07:38.48 | End | :P |
| 07:38.53 | AnduinLothar | ;) Sometimes I have to convince myself |
| 07:39.21 | End | to be fair, I've never used archaeologist, but I hear it has a ton of options |
| 07:39.23 | AnduinLothar | least it got my common misspellign right |
| 07:40.09 | ckknight | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 07:40.17 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "(<action> quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>f*ck you, guy|<reply>You know why? Because you touch yourself at night|<reply> your mom's <foo>|<reply> file a bug.)" |
| 07:40.17 | AnduinLothar | People keep asking for options... |
| 07:40.41 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:40.42 | ckknight | meh |
| 07:40.50 | ckknight | it's about right |
| 07:41.10 | Esamynn | purl, no, emulate AnduinLothar is (<reply>You aren't finished developing until you can't remove anythign else.|<reply>You aren't finished developing until you can't *add* anythign else.|<action> starts a new project and ends up working on 5 different off-shoot projects as well) |
| 07:41.11 | purl | okay, Esamynn |
| 07:41.57 | AnduinLothar | put words in my mouth why don't you |
| 07:42.02 | Esamynn | :P |
| 07:42.21 | Esamynn | you know what, you're right, I shouldn't |
| 07:42.31 | Esamynn | purl, no, emulate AnduinLothar is (<reply>You aren't finished developing until you can't remove anythign else.|<action> starts a new project and ends up working on 5 different off-shoot projects as well) |
| 07:42.32 | purl | Esamynn: okay |
| 07:42.35 | Thunder_Child | why not, it's so much more entertaining |
| 07:42.54 | AnduinLothar | I'd prefer: Keep adding options till the users stop whining. |
| 07:43.07 | AnduinLothar | course that's onyl the first half |
| 07:43.11 | Esamynn | hmm, norgs needs one, but MentalPower|ZZzz isn't around to help think of one ;) |
| 07:43.17 | Esamynn | AnduinLothar: so add it :) |
| 07:43.27 | AnduinLothar | 2nd part: Then rewrite it from scratch. |
| 07:43.57 | AnduinLothar | meh, It's better than it was. Someone had put some foul things in there |
| 07:44.11 | Esamynn | purl, no, emulate AnduinLothar is (<reply>You aren't finished developing until you can't remove anythign else.|<action> starts a new project and ends up working on 5 different off-shoot projects as well|<reply>Keep adding options till the users stop whining. Then rewrite it from scratch.) |
| 07:44.13 | purl | Esamynn: okay |
| 07:44.18 | Thunder_Child | why isnt there a list of commands for purl |
| 07:44.34 | Esamynn | well, the pre-programmed commands do have a list |
| 07:44.37 | AnduinLothar | purl, gimme options! |
| 07:44.38 | purl | ACTION gets anduinlothar's options! |
| 07:44.38 | Esamynn | these are all factoids |
| 07:44.47 | Esamynn | of which there are thousands |
| 07:44.57 | Esamynn | ~status |
| 07:44.58 | purl | Since Mon Nov 13 13:41:04 2006, there have been 37 modifications, 239 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 236 commands. I have been awake for 18h 3m 53s this session, and currently reference 111996 factoids. I'm using about 18780 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2596.68/304.19 child 0.1/0.04 |
| 07:45.11 | Thunder_Child | is it in the papers? because i have a barebones copy of purl |
| 07:45.29 | Thunder_Child | lol 0 morons |
| 07:45.38 | Tem | ~dunno |
| 07:45.40 | purl | hmm... dunno is #1/usr/bin/girl |
| 07:45.49 | Tem | hah |
| 07:45.49 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 07:46.23 | Esamynn | ~emulate Cide |
| 07:46.24 | purl | Please remove this discussion from your consciousness. |
| 07:47.04 | Esamynn | ~emulate hyperChipmunk |
| 07:47.06 | purl | ACTION chitters. |
| 07:47.48 | Esamynn | I was hoping for something better |
| 07:49.26 | Inside | ~moron |
| 07:49.29 | purl | somebody said moron was someone that types long lines starting with "purl" |
| 07:49.39 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 07:49.40 | Inside | purl, hell. |
| 07:49.47 | Inside | purl, I mean hello |
| 07:49.49 | purl | You mean hello? |
| 07:49.49 | Inside | ~status |
| 07:49.50 | purl | Since Mon Nov 13 13:41:04 2006, there have been 37 modifications, 244 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 237 commands. I have been awake for 18h 8m 45s this session, and currently reference 111996 factoids. I'm using about 18780 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2607.15/307.44 child 0.1/0.04 |
| 07:49.53 | Inside | Hmm |
| 07:50.49 | Thunder_Child | no update for you |
| 07:51.10 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mery (i=metelman@p57A95BD9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:51.23 | Esamynn | ~emulate Mery |
| 07:53.30 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:53.39 | Mery | good morning |
| 07:54.55 | Inside | ~emulate inside |
| 07:54.59 | Inside | :< |
| 07:55.27 | ckknight | purl, you suck |
| 07:55.29 | purl | no, *you* suck! |
| 07:55.37 | Esamynn | hmm, now to find out what all they are including in the pre-BC patch |
| 07:56.08 | ckknight | anyone on the PTR: what's the value of MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL? |
| 07:56.17 | Inside | I'm gonna guess... 70! |
| 07:56.19 | Inside | >_> |
| 07:56.20 | Inside | <_< |
| 07:56.27 | End | PTR, not beta I think he wants |
| 07:56.49 | End | I didn't realize PTR was up already though...! |
| 07:57.04 | Esamynn | came up tonight I think |
| 07:57.18 | Esamynn | or at the very least the PTR downloader is up |
| 07:58.05 | AnduinLothar | purl, emulate God is (<reply>You are forgiven.|<action> I smite thee in the name of.. well, me!|<reply>This is an automated reply from the inbox of God@God.org We're sorry but this inbox is currently full. Please pray again later.) |
| 07:58.07 | purl | AnduinLothar: okay |
| 07:58.07 | Esamynn | hmm, that's interesting that MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL is still hardcoding instead of being based on whether the account has been upgraded with an expansion key or not.... |
| 07:58.18 | Esamynn | at least it's hardcoded in the beta ui files |
| 07:58.38 | End | that might be a temporary hack |
| 07:58.48 | End | but of course, that does bring about ckknight's question |
| 07:59.02 | Esamynn | well, I'll find out when this patch finishes downloading |
| 07:59.31 | ckknight | I'm assuming it should be 60. |
| 07:59.36 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=560370&sid=1 ? |
| 07:59.55 | ckknight | but in TBC it should be 70 |
| 08:00.08 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: what about it? |
| 08:00.09 | ckknight | I want to use it as a way of telling if you have the expansion or not. |
| 08:00.16 | Thunder_Child | pre BC patch |
| 08:00.47 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: that's the current beta patch |
| 08:01.14 | Thunder_Child | i wsa given to understand that it will be out before BC |
| 08:01.18 | Esamynn | ckknight: the UI files won't differ between the expansion client and the non-expansion client |
| 08:01.26 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: 2.0.x will be |
| 08:01.53 | Thunder_Child | that is 2.0.x |
| 08:02.03 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: but it's BETA specific |
| 08:02.13 | Thunder_Child | besides when i asked that question thaths where Cairenn sent me |
| 08:02.17 | Thunder_Child | thats* |
| 08:02.17 | Esamynn | BC beta |
| 08:03.07 | ckknight | Esamynn, srsly? |
| 08:03.19 | ckknight | then how do I tell if the user is running expansion? |
| 08:03.27 | Esamynn | ckknight: that's my guess |
| 08:03.37 | Esamynn | ckknight: I don't know |
| 08:04.00 | Esamynn | but as I said, I'm surprised MAX_PLAYER_LEVEL wasn't turned into an API call |
| 08:04.05 | ckknight | me too. |
| 08:04.18 | End | good old "attempt to call a table value" |
| 08:04.33 | ckknight | maybe we should prod Slouken for a HasExpansion("acronym") method |
| 08:04.46 | ckknight | so I can just do HasExpansion("TBC") |
| 08:05.27 | End | I have a few ideas on how you might be able to detect whether you are in the xpac or not |
| 08:05.42 | Inside | interface = 20000 xD? |
| 08:05.54 | End | no |
| 08:05.56 | ckknight | End, lemme hear em |
| 08:05.57 | End | that won't work |
| 08:06.06 | End | ckknight: can you set the world map to outland? |
| 08:06.37 | End | actually, that's my only idea now that I think of it |
| 08:06.45 | ckknight | End, hrm... you could check GetContinents() |
| 08:06.50 | End | that too |
| 08:06.55 | Thunder_Child | jemcrafting only works for thoes who have it, same with rase |
| 08:07.02 | Thunder_Child | race* |
| 08:07.06 | End | it's worth a check |
| 08:07.22 | ckknight | I need to be able to do a quick check, as soon as possible, really |
| 08:07.23 | Esamynn | unfortunately, that's not helpful though Thunder_Child |
| 08:07.24 | Inside | How do you know that people with no expansion during the time that the expansion is out cna't do GetContinents and see if the outland exists? |
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| 08:07.43 | ckknight | Inside, that's why we need to check the PTR |
| 08:07.45 | Thunder_Child | i working through it Esamynn |
| 08:07.46 | End | Inside: we could use the PTR to check that |
| 08:07.51 | [Ammo] | those in outland all have the same quest completed probably, but not sure if you can query those |
| 08:08.01 | Inside | Well.. |
| 08:08.04 | Thunder_Child | thats 60+ though |
| 08:08.05 | Inside | How do we know the PTR can tell us that :> |
| 08:08.11 | Inside | I suppose we have to check, >_> |
| 08:08.18 | Mery | well if you are only interested in players 60+ |
| 08:08.20 | Thunder_Child | otherwise you could use rep that is outlands onl |
| 08:08.22 | Mery | you can check the xp |
| 08:08.22 | Thunder_Child | y |
| 08:08.28 | Esamynn | it's all in what they include in the 2.0 build |
| 08:08.37 | End | ckknight, just curious, why do you even need to know? |
| 08:08.39 | Inside | orly? wow. |
| 08:08.50 | Thunder_Child | will max lvl say 70 for thoes not in the expansion? |
| 08:08.52 | ckknight | End, for Tourist-2.0 on whether it should include information about expansion zones |
| 08:08.56 | End | ah |
| 08:08.58 | End | I see |
| 08:09.08 | End | and now the quick check makes sense now too |
| 08:10.34 | End | I have another idea |
| 08:10.35 | End | hold on a sec |
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| 08:13.06 | Nom_ | CoE? |
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| 08:13.10 | Nom_ | CoS? |
| 08:13.11 | End | ok, I got an idea that should work... |
| 08:13.19 | Esamynn | the silly downloader has uploaded more data than it has downloaded so far!!! :( |
| 08:13.37 | End | there are textures only TBC users should have, right? well, use :SetTexture()/:GetTexture() to confirm existance |
| 08:13.40 | Nom_ | mine has 30 mins left :P |
| 08:13.42 | Esamynn | and my connection is an ADSL line! |
| 08:13.54 | Nom_ | It'll be done by the time I get home |
| 08:13.59 | Nom_ | <3 Remote Desktop |
| 08:14.11 | Mery | lol I started 10 min ago and same, 9MB up and 8MB down... and my upload is only 1/th of my (possible) download rate |
| 08:14.22 | Nom_ | yeah |
| 08:14.26 | Mery | 1/10th* |
| 08:14.31 | Nom_ | I think I was pushing 90KB/sec and pulling 70KB/sec |
| 08:14.34 | Thunder_Child | i get about 700Kb transfer rate |
| 08:14.37 | Nom_ | mdan leechers |
| 08:14.46 | Nom_ | damn leechers |
| 08:15.14 | Nom_ | I know i'm still pushing 90KB/sec because my SSH session is lagging badly lol |
| 08:16.39 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:17.22 | Nom_ | Yeah, I got 1Mbps upstream |
| 08:17.33 | Nom_ | So as soon as I join a network, i'm pushing data at full speed lol |
| 08:17.50 | Nom_ | 477MiB is pretty insane for a patch tho |
| 08:17.58 | Nom_ | I hope there's some reward for that :P |
| 08:19.11 | End | yes! I got enginventory to work |
| 08:19.34 | Mikk | gz =) |
| 08:19.42 | End | hmm |
| 08:19.55 | End | I'm still getting a few errors though |
| 08:20.13 | End | but they don't seem to hinder it |
| 08:20.27 | Mikk | delete the erring functions :-P |
| 08:20.54 | End | heh |
| 08:21.04 | End | it's just forloop crap I haven't fixed yet |
| 08:26.00 | End | ok, now it's just acting very strangely |
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| 08:28.50 | Nom_ | 104 down, 101 up :( |
| 08:28.54 | Nom_ | curse you leechers |
| 08:31.03 | GremWarsong | What version of LUA does WoW use? |
| 08:31.28 | ckknight | 5.0, 5.1 in PTR/TBC |
| 08:31.35 | GremWarsong | gotcha |
| 08:33.39 | Neuro_Medivh | so are you all happy now that you are in the beta? =) |
| 08:33.46 | Thunder_Child | Technically that isn’t the prt |
| 08:33.57 | Thunder_Child | since the beta isnt public |
| 08:34.17 | Nom_ | PTS is only testing hte non-outland stuff |
| 08:34.22 | Nom_ | PTR even |
| 08:34.37 | Neuro_Medivh | I was refering to ckknight and the others finally getting their beta keys |
| 08:34.39 | Nom_ | damn this lag to my irc client lol |
| 08:34.45 | Nom_ | oooooooooooooooh i seeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:34.58 | Thunder_Child | i was refering to what ckknight said |
| 08:35.10 | Nom_ | 95% on PTR download *cheer* |
| 08:35.32 | Nom_ | i can nearly close it, and get back some reponseiveness to my SSH session |
| 08:36.05 | sylvanaar | after you download tbs, then you get a 200mb patch |
| 08:36.10 | sylvanaar | *tbc |
| 08:36.23 | ckknight | Neuro_Medivh, I've actually been in the beta for a while, just leeching off of someone else's key. I'm glad I have my own now. |
| 08:36.58 | Nom_ | yay download finished |
| 08:37.01 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, PTR and TBC are two separate things |
| 08:37.04 | Nom_ | omg quick response from the key presses again lol |
| 08:37.14 | ckknight | they both use WoW 2.0 and lua 5.1, though |
| 08:37.26 | Laric | ptr up now? |
| 08:37.32 | Thunder_Child | i didnt think the PTR was up yet though |
| 08:37.49 | sylvanaar | i think he meant the beta |
| 08:38.23 | Nom_ | No, PTR client is out |
| 08:38.38 | Nom_ | http://search.cpan.org/~karasik/Prima-1.20/ |
| 08:38.41 | Nom_ | oops |
| 08:38.43 | Nom_ | wrong text |
| 08:38.58 | Nom_ | 2.0.1 test client |
| 08:47.39 | Neuro_Medivh | Anyone seen Borat? Is it actually funny? |
| 08:47.48 | End | I heard it sucked |
| 08:47.53 | End | but I haven't actually seen it |
| 08:48.26 | Neuro_Medivh | It strikes me like Jackass... it might have been funny to me 15 years ago, I dunno about now |
| 08:49.21 | GremWarsong | I loved it |
| 08:49.23 | GremWarsong | going to see it again Friday |
| 08:49.28 | GremWarsong | It will traumatize you |
| 08:49.34 | Neuro_Medivh | doubt it |
| 08:49.55 | GremWarsong | It will show you horrible things that nobody should ever have to see |
| 08:50.10 | GremWarsong | Its nothing like Jackass, its actually a good movie |
| 08:50.23 | GremWarsong | It seems to be a lot it or hate it movie, but its definitely going for 'shock factor' |
| 08:50.29 | GremWarsong | *love it or hate it |
| 08:50.31 | Neuro_Medivh | Well, I know he can be funny... Da Ali G show oscillates between funny and sad |
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| 08:51.14 | GremWarsong | Well the movie has shocking and traumatizing humor |
| 08:51.19 | Neuro_Medivh | Sometimes I find it funny as hell, but it's malicious humor |
| 08:51.41 | GremWarsong | Traumitizing by every scope of the word |
| 08:56.11 | Neuro_Medivh | well, I'm hoping for good things this weekend from Casino Royale |
| 08:56.56 | Tain | I'm kind of looking forward to Casino Royale. |
| 08:57.32 | Tain | Although even if it is very good I can't help but be let down a bit because Quentin Tarantino has said many times hew wanted to do Casino Royale. |
| 08:57.47 | Tain | And I think they really should have seen what he'd do with it. |
| 08:57.59 | Neuro_Medivh | Tarantino's style wouldn't suit James Bond I don't think |
| 08:58.22 | Neuro_Medivh | It's be like having John Woo do it |
| 08:58.31 | Tain | I'd tend to agree with you in theory, but the interviews I saw with him he really had a passion for wanting to do wit. |
| 08:58.51 | Tain | And I like to see when people have a real strong desire to do something, rather than just being paid for it. |
| 08:58.56 | Neuro_Medivh | well, it *appears* they are moving away from all the techogadgets and shit |
| 08:59.44 | Neuro_Medivh | the invisible car was just silly |
| 09:00.10 | Warla | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5336-1-wowprofiles.html <-- my mod works with BC beta :-) if you want you can test uploading your BC char |
| 09:00.12 | Neuro_Medivh | besides, after seeing Layer Cake, I think Craig will make a good bond |
| 09:01.25 | End | felreavers scare the crap out of me although I yet to aggro one |
| 09:01.47 | Tain | I think he's going to do good as Bond. |
| 09:02.00 | Neuro_Medivh | hahahah |
| 09:02.01 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah |
| 09:02.05 | Neuro_Medivh | fel reavers rock |
| 09:02.17 | Neuro_Medivh | have you been to the Armory yet? That area messes with my head |
| 09:02.18 | Tain | Of course I haven't liked any Bonds except Connery and Moore, and Moore was even too campy for me. |
| 09:02.37 | Neuro_Medivh | I kinda liked Dalton in Living Daylights |
| 09:02.41 | Thunder_Child | Connery is the best |
| 09:02.45 | Neuro_Medivh | obviously |
| 09:02.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Moore was a ham |
| 09:02.59 | Neuro_Medivh | but I'm not entirely sure that's his fault |
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| 09:03.09 | Neuro_Medivh | he got stuck with the silliest scripts too |
| 09:03.23 | Tain | Yeah I'd really like to just wipe Moonraker from existence. |
| 09:03.26 | Neuro_Medivh | yep |
| 09:03.49 | Neuro_Medivh | you know the book Moonraker had like 0% to do with the movie |
| 09:03.58 | Saeris | How does one register a slash command in the new API? |
| 09:04.13 | Neuro_Medivh | I think the same as before to be honest |
| 09:04.15 | Tain | Yeah, that was the height of hollywood trying to get big budget special effects involved. |
| 09:04.19 | s|loup | yes same as before |
| 09:04.27 | Tain | But, the Moonraker Laser was fun in Goldeneye 64. |
| 09:04.57 | End | also, secure slash commands are in a different list, and that's why you don't end up tainting things there |
| 09:05.08 | Saeris | Ahhh okay. That makes sense then. |
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| 09:13.16 | Thunder_Child | does the beta go down for the usual tue morning updates? |
| 09:14.21 | Mike-N-Go | Hello |
| 09:15.23 | Mike-N-Go | Can you guys check http://pastey.net/2424 for me, I think I am complete with version 1. |
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| 09:43.00 | Mery | does the test server patch have patch notes and anybody got a link to them? |
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| 09:45.31 | nymbia | i was JUST reading them somewhere, one sec |
| 09:46.09 | nymbia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47007435&sid=1 |
| 09:46.52 | Mery | thanks! |
| 09:46.56 | nymbia | sure |
| 09:50.47 | Thunder_Child | do they have an eta for the patch thats on the PTR? |
| 09:52.21 | AnduinLothar | odd that the spell damage coeficient changes aren't mentioned there.. |
| 09:53.22 | nevcairiel | i think that will only be BC |
| 09:53.26 | nymbia | Thunder_Child: nothing more than "before next year" |
| 09:53.59 | nymbia | AnduinLothar: |
| 09:54.00 | nymbia | - Low-level spells cast by high-level players will receive smaller |
| 09:54.00 | nymbia | bonuses from +healing and +spell damage. |
| 09:54.00 | nymbia | - HoTs, DoTs, and channeled spells have been re balanced to receive a |
| 09:54.00 | nymbia | more appropriate (higher) percentage of +spell damage and +healing. |
| 09:54.08 | nymbia | top section |
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| 09:54.12 | Thunder_Child | thanks nymbia |
| 09:54.14 | AnduinLothar | sweet "All of the profession-made items that have been created up to now |
| 09:54.14 | AnduinLothar | have been given proper stats based on the current expansion item |
| 09:54.15 | AnduinLothar | level progression table. " |
| 09:54.34 | nymbia | thats... a major buff to crafted stuff. interesting. |
| 09:55.23 | AnduinLothar | that's not all tho nymbia. consecration spell damage effect was increased, but so was seal of rightiousness, which isn't a dot or hot.. |
| 09:55.30 | Shadowed | basically |
| 09:55.33 | AnduinLothar | it's a buff proc |
| 09:55.35 | Shadowed | GG Maex is now easier mode |
| 09:56.07 | Thunder_Child | also nice " Thrown weapon items no longer stack, but use durability instead. One unit of durability is lost per throw, and these items can be repaired. |
| 09:56.07 | Thunder_Child | " |
| 09:56.15 | cryogen | every boss in the game is easier mode |
| 09:56.20 | AnduinLothar | wonder what sageblade stats are gonna be.. i should retransfer that char and see |
| 09:56.21 | cryogen | hello stackable hots :p |
| 09:56.22 | Shadowed | true |
| 09:56.40 | Shadowed | but maex is the most effected since you used HOT's to survive the stun |
| 09:56.44 | cryogen | yarr |
| 09:56.53 | cryogen | i wonder tho, if they really did fix buffs pushing each other off |
| 09:56.59 | cryogen | or whether you can push off a FoT with 23904820 hots |
| 09:57.05 | Hatsuki | so, is there anyone who doesnt use downranked heals in pw? |
| 09:57.13 | Shadowed | You can't push off flasks anymore |
| 09:57.16 | Thunder_Child | pw? |
| 09:57.17 | AnduinLothar | wooo 'Keyrings have been expanded to hold more key-type items' |
| 09:57.18 | Hatsuki | because that boss just became harder mode |
| 09:57.20 | Hatsuki | patchwerk |
| 09:57.29 | Shadowed | I believe we use downranking for PW |
| 09:57.34 | cryogen | yeah they "fixed" it, but did they fix it? |
| 09:57.36 | AnduinLothar | someone say ony neck and ubrs ring? |
| 09:57.52 | Hatsuki | I seriously doubt there is anyone who doesnt... |
| 09:58.43 | AnduinLothar | nooooo 'You will no longer die when Feign Death is finished channeling.' |
| 09:58.50 | Kaligar | thats a big patch |
| 09:58.51 | AnduinLothar | i thought that was a feature, lol |
| 09:59.03 | Mery | ubrs key and ony neck don't work on beta |
| 09:59.12 | Mery | but i noticed that even quest keys go in there |
| 09:59.13 | AnduinLothar | they should |
| 09:59.15 | cryogen | AnduinLothar: it was :) |
| 09:59.16 | Mery | maybe thats what they meant |
| 09:59.19 | Thunder_Child | sweet, meeting stones are now replacme ment warlock summoners |
| 09:59.35 | AnduinLothar | yay, no more locks |
| 09:59.42 | AnduinLothar | oh wait.. need ss |
| 09:59.42 | Hatsuki | still need imp |
| 09:59.45 | Thunder_Child | wow...there was no english in that statement |
| 09:59.56 | Kaligar | is there a meeting stone for aq? |
| 10:00.10 | Hatsuki | there're none for raid-instances |
| 10:00.22 | Thunder_Child | they may put them in |
| 10:00.28 | cryogen | doubtful |
| 10:00.52 | Hatsuki | maybe, just maybe, they werent intended to be puggable, even if some of them are nowadays |
| 10:01.17 | AnduinLothar | ubrs has always been |
| 10:01.30 | cryogen | and ubrs has a meeting stone :) |
| 10:01.36 | AnduinLothar | zg, aq20 and ony are regularly pugged on my server too |
| 10:01.40 | Hatsuki | bwl is also pugged |
| 10:02.14 | Hatsuki | more often guilds tho just sell epics from there |
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| 10:03.54 | Teomyr | hmm |
| 10:04.09 | Teomyr | there are quite some spelling mistakes in that patch notes forum post imo |
| 10:04.29 | Teomyr | "Nogginfogger Elixir" |
| 10:04.33 | Teomyr | "Dun Baldur" |
| 10:04.48 | AnduinLothar | can't find anythign better to complain about? |
| 10:04.53 | Kaligar | the patch is up though |
| 10:05.43 | Teomyr | just wondering |
| 10:06.53 | nymbia | as far as category organization goes.. they're pretty.. off. but it's a lot of data to put together. |
| 10:07.06 | nymbia | so i dont blame em for the spelling mistakes either |
| 10:08.17 | nymbia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47197497&sid=1 |
| 10:14.00 | krka | anyone around who's good with router firmware? |
| 10:14.54 | nymbia | i've hit my share of routers with blunt objects, what's the problem? |
| 10:15.28 | Teomyr | lol, look at the german PTR forum :D http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11117&sid=3 |
| 10:15.36 | Teomyr | the mods seem to have too much time |
| 10:15.53 | nymbia | wow |
| 10:15.56 | AnduinLothar | damn |
| 10:15.56 | nymbia | seriously |
| 10:17.37 | krka | never mind, i got to work again |
| 10:17.41 | krka | (rebooted it) |
| 10:17.55 | krka | now running dd-wrt on my linksys wrt54gl |
| 10:18.43 | AnduinLothar | talking to anyone in particular krka? |
| 10:20.19 | krka | no, not really |
| 10:22.48 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I am trying to upload my addon, "A preview image is required for this category but was not attached." |
| 10:23.02 | Mike-N-Go | I did attach a preview.. |
| 10:23.04 | AnduinLothar | so add an image |
| 10:23.09 | AnduinLothar | mreh |
| 10:23.19 | AnduinLothar | it is not pretty enough? |
| 10:23.26 | Teomyr | lol |
| 10:23.29 | AnduinLothar | cause mayeb the ugly filter kicked in |
| 10:24.08 | Teomyr | does it show up? there should be a preview of the pictures you uploaded at the top of the upload page |
| 10:24.10 | AnduinLothar | Cair, has to frequently kick the server, to make it accept everyone as an equal opportunity addon host |
| 10:24.41 | Mike-N-Go | "The file size of the image exceeds the maximum allowed." |
| 10:24.49 | AnduinLothar | owned |
| 10:24.54 | GremWarsong | How do you include files in LUA/ |
| 10:24.57 | AnduinLothar | tooo pretty |
| 10:25.10 | Mike-N-Go | I have bee working so long, so tired.. |
| 10:25.24 | AnduinLothar | make it less pretty, and more grainy and the ppor server will <3 you |
| 10:25.29 | AnduinLothar | poor* |
| 10:25.34 | Mike-N-Go | ¿ |
| 10:25.36 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know how to include LUA files? |
| 10:25.45 | AnduinLothar | shrink it :P |
| 10:26.02 | Teomyr | Mike-N-Go: make it a JPG file. did you try to upload a bmp/tga file? |
| 10:26.15 | Teomyr | can you include lua files at all? |
| 10:26.36 | GremWarsong | Well I sure hope so |
| 10:26.36 | AnduinLothar | <Include file="WearMe\WearMe.xml"/><Script file="Wardrobe.lua" /> |
| 10:26.40 | Teomyr | you'll probably need to add the extra files to the toc or xml file |
| 10:26.46 | Mike-N-Go | I tried a portable network graphic, aka png |
| 10:27.01 | GremWarsong | Is there a way to include them outside of XML? |
| 10:27.05 | AnduinLothar | can't load lua in a subdir tho |
| 10:27.12 | AnduinLothar | put it in the toc |
| 10:27.18 | GremWarsong | Is there a better way? |
| 10:27.22 | GremWarsong | Or rather, another way |
| 10:27.26 | AnduinLothar | to do what? |
| 10:27.27 | GremWarsong | Like to include from the file |
| 10:27.35 | GremWarsong | Include another LUA file from inside a LUA file |
| 10:27.40 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 10:27.41 | grimman|afkish | Heh... Tip: Remember to take all things in moderation (even World of Warcraft!) |
| 10:27.43 | Teomyr | Mike-N-Go: try lowering the quality or something. in general, for wow-screenshots, i'd use jpeg |
| 10:27.53 | Mike-N-Go | Ok |
| 10:27.57 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 10:28.04 | AnduinLothar | only xml files can include |
| 10:28.08 | Mike-N-Go | I am trying to reduce the size |
| 10:28.17 | Teomyr | grimman|afkish: i found the tip "Your character can eat and drink at the same time." quite amusing |
| 10:28.34 | AnduinLothar | how does he do that!? |
| 10:28.38 | grimman|afkish | That's quite skilled. |
| 10:30.33 | Mike-N-Go | No, lets add driving... |
| 10:30.47 | Mike-N-Go | s/No/Now/ |
| 10:31.11 | AnduinLothar | :( cant talk on the phone and drive w/o a hands-free thing soon in cali |
| 10:31.33 | AnduinLothar | stupid law, makign me spend $ |
| 10:31.52 | AnduinLothar | i'm perfectly capible of driving manual with 1 hand.. |
| 10:32.59 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I have photo shop, but rarely use. |
| 10:33.06 | grimman|afkish | eBay("Rubber bands"); |
| 10:33.07 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know how to resize? |
| 10:33.32 | AnduinLothar | Image> Resize Image |
| 10:33.48 | Mike-N-Go | Will that reduce the size? |
| 10:33.53 | Mike-N-Go | in bytes? |
| 10:34.06 | Teomyr | file > save for web (or something like that) is more what you need, i think |
| 10:34.07 | AnduinLothar | after you save it as a jpg |
| 10:34.36 | AnduinLothar | well. yeah. resizing isn't the same as makign the filesize smaller |
| 10:34.51 | AnduinLothar | but it has the same effect. depends on how much you need to reduce the size |
| 10:35.25 | Teomyr | you can use Save for Web to resize it, and reduce the quality. that way you can see what the picture will look like in the end |
| 10:35.45 | AnduinLothar | ah yes. it does have the size there too |
| 10:35.50 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, save for web, i rumba now. |
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| 10:38.24 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks, I think I did it. |
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| 10:38.27 | AnduinLothar | these cracked pepper and olive oil Triscuts are really tastey |
| 10:41.11 | Mike-N-Go | I got it to upload |
| 10:41.31 | AnduinLothar | I <3 Mike's |
| 10:42.19 | AnduinLothar | but you can't really 'go' with one since you cant have open bottles while driving |
| 10:43.19 | Mike-N-Go | Humm, how long until it is ready for download? |
| 10:44.30 | Mike-N-Go | Just duck-tape it to your lips, it will technically be a "closed" system. |
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| 10:44.56 | jaxdahl | UI doomsday is imminient |
| 10:44.58 | AnduinLothar | mmm liek a horse feeding back. i like it |
| 10:45.13 | AnduinLothar | bag* |
| 10:45.20 | Mike-N-Go | Does anyone else play on Argent Dawn-Horde? |
| 10:45.34 | grimman|afkish | jaxdahl: You mean like "zomg 1.13 hits you for 4000 damage.\n100 mods die."? |
| 10:45.48 | foxlit | "You gain 1.13" |
| 10:45.59 | foxlit | "Your 1.13 disables 100 mods." |
| 10:46.07 | foxlit | Should be an aura-like effect |
| 10:46.14 | Elkano | 1.13? 2.0? |
| 10:46.17 | grimman|afkish | I don't know... you can cancel auras. :P |
| 10:46.26 | jaxdahl | it's 2.0.1 |
| 10:46.31 | jaxdahl | build 6114 is the PTR |
| 10:46.40 | foxlit | The patch before tbc |
| 10:46.41 | AnduinLothar | you can cancil 1.13... it just disconnects you |
| 10:47.00 | jaxdahl | WoW-1.12.0.5590-to-2.0.1.6114-enUS-patch |
| 10:47.21 | jaxdahl | 477 MB patch |
| 10:47.45 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks for the help on photoshop. |
| 10:47.48 | AnduinLothar | wait.. is that patching tonight? |
| 10:47.56 | jaxdahl | it's the PTR |
| 10:48.00 | AnduinLothar | oh ok |
| 10:48.06 | AnduinLothar | dont scare me like that |
| 10:48.11 | jaxdahl | and the PTR isn't up yet either but i got a couple characters copied |
| 10:48.13 | AnduinLothar | thoguht we had a month |
| 10:48.39 | AnduinLothar | and we do |
| 10:48.59 | grimman|afkish | I need another monitor. >_< |
| 10:49.25 | foxlit | irc within wow. Would've been awesome |
| 10:49.32 | grimman|afkish | Yeah. |
| 10:49.50 | jaxdahl | make your IRC window a transparent overlay |
| 10:50.03 | grimman|afkish | jaxdahl: That chokes my WoW... ;P |
| 10:50.22 | grimman|afkish | AnduinLothar: Yeah... but once you're spoiled enough to like it... you need a third one. |
| 10:50.36 | AnduinLothar | damn.. you're right! |
| 10:50.41 | jaxdahl | i don't have any porn wallpaper that wide |
| 10:50.51 | grimman|afkish | jaxdahl: Buy Ultramon. |
| 10:50.55 | AnduinLothar | you can use a diff bg for each screen |
| 10:51.00 | jaxdahl | i own ultramon |
| 10:51.05 | grimman|afkish | Well then. :P |
| 10:51.07 | jaxdahl | i use it at work |
| 10:51.08 | grimman|afkish | Separate wallpapers ftw. |
| 10:51.50 | AnduinLothar | very 'ish' there |
| 10:52.22 | grimman|afkish | Silence. |
| 10:52.42 | GremWarsong | I have IRC within wow |
| 10:52.42 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 10:52.44 | grimli | I'm angry and I have a beard. |
| 10:53.04 | AnduinLothar | i'm cheezey and have a gotee |
| 10:53.19 | Mike-N-Go | I just received my 23" Apple Cinema Display |
| 10:53.48 | grimli | I never really get around to updating my status, and I'm thoroughly opposed to automatic changes. |
| 10:54.10 | grimli | I think I've been "Available" on IQC for a couple of years now. |
| 10:54.13 | grimli | ICQ* |
| 10:54.55 | Mike-N-Go | I have a MacBook Pro 15" to complement my 23" |
| 10:55.13 | AnduinLothar | interesting combo |
| 10:55.32 | krka | w00t, this dd-wrt firmware rocks |
| 10:56.47 | AnduinLothar | does it have more port fowarding slots? |
| 10:56.58 | AnduinLothar | that's one thing i have abotu the linksys one |
| 10:57.01 | krka | i don't think it has a limit |
| 10:57.06 | AnduinLothar | nice |
| 10:57.36 | krka | since it uses iptables |
| 10:57.43 | AnduinLothar | nifty |
| 10:57.48 | krka | actually, that may not have anything to do with it |
| 10:58.11 | Mike-N-Go | The Apple Cinemas are on sale! |
| 10:58.18 | Mike-N-Go | $999 for 23" |
| 10:58.20 | AnduinLothar | O.o where? |
| 10:58.27 | Mike-N-Go | EVERYWHERE |
| 10:58.29 | AnduinLothar | that's not sale |
| 10:58.34 | Mike-N-Go | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:58.35 | AnduinLothar | that's normal price |
| 10:59.00 | Mike-N-Go | It is, because it was like $1200 or.. $1500 |
| 10:59.46 | grimli | That's... hoot. |
| 10:59.54 | grimli | afk, buying a cinema display. |
| 10:59.55 | grimli | ;D |
| 11:00.10 | AnduinLothar | 20" was $700 when I got it... still is |
| 11:00.21 | AnduinLothar | and that was a year ago |
| 11:09.54 | Mike-N-Go | Everyone run! My addon is uploaded http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6139-AutoMailDirector.html |
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| 11:10.27 | AnduinLothar | nifty |
| 11:11.55 | Mike-N-Go | You like? |
| 11:12.54 | AnduinLothar | kinda niche, but useful if you have a bank/auction alt |
| 11:13.00 | jaxdahl | hmm.. |
| 11:13.05 | jaxdahl | all the data is in a single common.mpq |
| 11:13.43 | AnduinLothar | my favorite mail feature is the right-click to loot part from MailTo |
| 11:14.58 | Mike-N-Go | With this, all you have to do is define who to send what item type, and hold your key binding, click, then the mail sends |
| 11:15.05 | Mike-N-Go | Unless it is soul bound... |
| 11:15.21 | jaxdahl | mh. |
| 11:15.24 | AnduinLothar | nice |
| 11:15.25 | jaxdahl | winmpq won't open it |
| 11:15.30 | Mike-N-Go | I spent a long time on the error messages. |
| 11:15.49 | AnduinLothar | yeah feedback and ui is the biggest part of most mods |
| 11:15.54 | Mike-N-Go | member:jaxdahl: Is this 'it' my addon? |
| 11:16.00 | jaxdahl | no |
| 11:16.02 | jaxdahl | the PTR .mpq file |
| 11:16.09 | Mike-N-Go | What be that? |
| 11:16.33 | jaxdahl | the WoW 2.0.1 common.MPQ file |
| 11:16.39 | jaxdahl | 3,726,992 KB |
| 11:16.46 | Mike-N-Go | :P |
| 11:16.54 | Mike-N-Go | That is big |
| 11:17.17 | jaxdahl | yeah they combined it all into one file |
| 11:19.54 | Mike-N-Go | So, how long do you all think it will take until I get my beta key? |
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| 11:27.03 | Kaso | - Fixed an issue where players were unable to click on anything if they had any add-ons installed. |
| 11:27.06 | Kaso | whats that about? |
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| 11:30.08 | AnduinLothar | voodoo |
| 11:30.44 | grimli | rofl |
| 11:30.51 | grimli | Found a slight bug mefinks. |
| 11:31.08 | grimli | I can add keybindings to the default keybinding UI if I replace the header variable with the command. |
| 11:32.05 | grimli | Ie. <Binding name="My nifty binding">command()</Binding> becomes <Binding name="command()">--</Binding> |
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| 11:35.11 | Maldivia | Uhh, PTR is up? |
| 11:35.29 | grimli | EU is anyway. |
| 11:36.10 | Maldivia | ohh, couldn't find any EU download, only US |
| 11:36.37 | grimli | My trinketkeys work once more... but damn it looks ugly now, hehe. |
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| 11:37.45 | grimli | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?trinketkeysBC.png |
| 11:37.46 | grimli | :P |
| 11:39.37 | Maldivia | hmm, funny |
| 11:39.43 | grimli | :) |
| 11:40.06 | Maldivia | the eGB PTR patch is labeled 1.12.0-5590 to 2.0.1.6114 |
| 11:40.29 | Maldivia | current enGB patch is 1.12.2-6005 |
| 11:41.04 | grimli | Hm, I take it you're not talking about the BC realms as I first thought. :P |
| 11:41.24 | Maldivia | nope, the live realm PTR patch |
| 11:41.27 | grimli | ok |
| 11:41.39 | Maldivia | which should be a good indicator for which BC features we'll see on the live realms, before BC is released |
| 11:41.56 | grimli | Indeed. |
| 11:42.13 | grimli | But haven't Blizz already said it's talents and UI stuff that's being rolled out? :P |
| 11:42.33 | Maldivia | talents, UI, spells, honor changes, BG changes |
| 11:42.48 | grimli | Ah yes, honor too. |
| 11:43.14 | grimli | I hope that includes the PVP gear purchasing changes too. |
| 11:43.38 | Mikma | Cairenn|afk: there's one link incorrent on wowinterface.com latest addons -page :) "JanosArnold: Untamed Blade Proc Declarer" |
| 11:43.47 | Maldivia | new +healing/damage calcs, for channeling spells, hots/dots etc |
| 11:43.57 | grimli | :) |
| 11:44.18 | cryogen | did anyone get a message on the beta installer on the lines of "please insert cd 3?" |
| 11:44.32 | foxlit | No, but check that Tome 3 has finished downloading? |
| 11:44.39 | grimli | Negative, cryogen. |
| 11:45.08 | cryogen | has anyone seen any forum posts about people with similar issues? :) |
| 11:45.17 | cryogen | foxlit: hmm, will do |
| 11:46.41 | cryogen | foxlit: do you have a filesize for it? or a md5 sum |
| 11:47.13 | foxlit | 660 604 822 bytes |
| 11:47.22 | foxlit | Let me find something that calcs md5 |
| 11:47.55 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.29 | Maldivia | foxlit: US or GB version ? |
| 11:48.57 | foxlit | EU |
| 11:49.18 | foxlit | Installer Tome 3.mpq: 59ECB3A05181274142151491D4FCBC7D |
| 11:49.20 | Maldivia | 59ecb3a05181274142151491d4fcbc7d *Installer Tome 3.mpq |
| 11:49.46 | Maldivia | .) |
| 11:49.49 | foxlit | Installer Tome 4.mpq: B68131CFA1512743338697DC37646335 |
| 11:50.35 | foxlit | BT should do SHA-1 on individual chunks anyway; they'd only be off if blizzard severely botched their implementation |
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| 11:50.56 | cryogen | weird |
| 11:51.01 | cryogen | she doesnt have installer tome 3 |
| 11:51.03 | cryogen | at all |
| 11:51.16 | cryogen | yet the downloader says its 100% complete and done |
| 11:51.37 | Wobin | anyone ever encounter this error? |
| 11:51.38 | Maldivia | try restarting the downloader |
| 11:51.44 | Wobin | "Interface/FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua:2170:AceConsole-2.0: Option handler "ParseInventory" not found." |
| 11:51.46 | cryogen | tried it multple times |
| 11:51.52 | cryogen | even deleted the entire download and done it again |
| 11:51.59 | Wobin | disregarding the functionname, naturally |
| 11:52.06 | Maldivia | enough room on the disk? |
| 11:52.17 | foxlit | If there wasn't, it wouldn't go to 100% |
| 11:52.18 | cryogen | i would assume so, but i'll double check |
| 11:53.41 | Wobin | whups |
| 11:53.44 | Wobin | wrong channel =P |
| 11:54.57 | foxlit | Well, if it still doesn't work, point some normal BT client at http://home.arcor.de/jtdnqg54/WoW-2.0.0.5991-enGB-Installer-downloader.torrent and force it to download tome 3 only |
| 11:55.39 | foxlit | (googled link, think that's the one that tracks against blizzard's server) |
| 11:56.13 | cryogen | ta. |
| 11:56.20 | cryogen | weird that 3 was completely missing |
| 11:56.53 | Mike-N-Go | Well, cya all later! |
| 11:56.55 | Mike-N-Go | Night |
| 11:57.35 | foxlit | Did you try redownloading the downloader, by the way? :) |
| 11:57.53 | cryogen | i didnt, but that was my alternative to your torrent |
| 11:58.03 | cryogen | last resort kinda thing :) |
| 11:58.18 | cryogen | turns out she got it from a torrent in the first place |
| 11:58.26 | cryogen | possibly a non blizzard tracker one, which is even worse |
| 12:00.08 | foxlit | That would explain things :) |
| 12:04.13 | Mr_Rabies | Can't....copy chars to PTR |
| 12:04.15 | Mr_Rabies | :[ |
| 12:04.20 | Mr_Rabies | dammit i want to test mangle |
| 12:05.47 | Wobin | Bah |
| 12:05.55 | Wobin | I'll have to put my borrowing the raid bank on hold |
| 12:08.48 | grimli | For some reason I always hoard gold. :P |
| 12:12.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | The Rend Blackhand arena event in Upper Blackrock Spire will now properly reset after a wipe. |
| 12:12.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | THANK GOD |
| 12:12.45 | grimli | :P |
| 12:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | Fixed an issue where computers with ATi video cards were sometimes having problems when displaying a certain texture. |
| 12:14.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | THANK GOD |
| 12:18.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | - Rage generation from dealing damage has been normalized. |
| 12:18.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | - All Rage awards are averaged with our expected rage per swing (adjusted for weapon speed). |
| 12:18.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | THANK GOD |
| 12:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry :P |
| 12:18.31 | foxlit | But what's in it for me? :P |
| 12:18.40 | AnduinLothar | so.. thunderfury with full screen glow? |
| 12:18.41 | grimli | Warriors need to be nerfed. |
| 12:18.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | 41 point talents :O |
| 12:18.53 | grimli | Give them leather only and access to gray weapons at best. |
| 12:19.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed, normalizing rage was needed |
| 12:19.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didnt even know theirs wasnt normalized like druids' until a few months ago |
| 12:19.55 | AnduinLothar | so 2h get more rage now? |
| 12:20.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ours has been normalized as far back as i can remember |
| 12:20.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | less |
| 12:20.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally |
| 12:20.16 | AnduinLothar | oh good |
| 12:20.22 | AnduinLothar | :) for e |
| 12:20.25 | AnduinLothar | me* |
| 12:20.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | used to slow hard weapons got more |
| 12:20.52 | AnduinLothar | ah. well then. maybe my damage rank will increase |
| 12:21.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | damage rank |
| 12:21.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 12:21.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 12:21.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | in pvp? |
| 12:21.28 | AnduinLothar | pve |
| 12:21.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not in beta so i'm not sure exactly how the new ranking is in bgs |
| 12:21.36 | AnduinLothar | DM |
| 12:21.40 | grimli | Is there any point in having PVP ranks after the revamp? :P |
| 12:21.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | wha |
| 12:21.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 12:21.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean on damagemeters |
| 12:21.53 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 12:22.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | name above your head |
| 12:22.14 | AnduinLothar | i'm usually liek 10-15 in bwl |
| 12:22.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and having good pvp gear |
| 12:22.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh i was crap in raids because all dps gear was rogue priority |
| 12:22.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and even warrior priority sometimes |
| 12:22.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | over druids, even as leather |
| 12:22.55 | AnduinLothar | if they don't make me heal for chrono, then higher |
| 12:22.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm glad i'm out of that guild |
| 12:23.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the rest of the druids except 1 were restonoobs |
| 12:23.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | couldn't feral their way out of a scholo room |
| 12:24.23 | AnduinLothar | my guild's cool. no real priorety. Just if you actually use it. So if they don't see you ever dps, you aren't gonan get it. but if you dps frequently then you have a good chance |
| 12:25.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i rarely got the chance |
| 12:25.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | they straight up told me all they wanted was the aura |
| 12:25.26 | AnduinLothar | got myself the cloak that drops off mobs in bwl last time |
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| 12:25.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | a few fights i'd sit outside attack range and just give them the aura |
| 12:25.42 | AnduinLothar | agil str and a lil sta |
| 12:25.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is more fun than healbotting nonstop but still |
| 12:26.47 | Saeris | Is there any way to set up SetItemRef such that a left click on a player link will target that player? |
| 12:26.48 | AnduinLothar | And i have like 800 atp and 150 spell damage in dps gear |
| 12:27.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not bad for a pally |
| 12:27.11 | AnduinLothar | nto in 2.0 Saeris |
| 12:27.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | my shaman has 942 at 45 |
| 12:27.23 | Saeris | I figured as much. Damn. Alright. |
| 12:27.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | no spelldamage or mana but he wrecks house in melee |
| 12:28.19 | AnduinLothar | ya. i'm holt/ret so i use the spell damage for command and holy shock |
| 12:28.24 | AnduinLothar | and cruc |
| 12:28.30 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 12:28.33 | AnduinLothar | cons |
| 12:28.55 | AnduinLothar | i can get 300 spell damage but my atp goes to crap |
| 12:29.09 | AnduinLothar | it's good for the supression room tho |
| 12:29.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's enh/elem |
| 12:29.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm working on getting the mana pool up but it's hard in mail to get a good balance of both |
| 12:29.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | enhancement is mostly to boost my dps a bit more |
| 12:30.05 | AnduinLothar | yeah. I've been pvping in my dps gear this week. it's been a blast |
| 12:30.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | er elemental in that last sentence |
| 12:30.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn the two long E words |
| 12:30.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wreck face against better geared people on my druid |
| 12:30.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one seems to expect any kind of damage from druids |
| 12:30.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | then they get two shotted |
| 12:31.17 | AnduinLothar | only have like 4100hp 4400mana but I can run into a group of 4 people and own one of them before i die :) |
| 12:31.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 12:31.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | dire bear is 450% more armor now |
| 12:31.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot about that |
| 12:31.41 | AnduinLothar | hawt |
| 12:31.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna tear people up |
| 12:31.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 40% more stam instead of 1200 more |
| 12:32.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus the 20% more from hotw |
| 12:32.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna wreck face |
| 12:32.27 | foxlit | 3k crits against druids are fun |
| 12:32.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's see |
| 12:32.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah they are |
| 12:32.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love dropping resto druids :] |
| 12:32.43 | foxlit | Pity you don't have berserker stance as well : |
| 12:32.50 | Wobin | muhaha |
| 12:32.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | fastest dropping class ever |
| 12:32.57 | Wobin | it should make you froth at the mouth |
| 12:33.02 | Wobin | MAD DOG ATTICUS! |
| 12:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
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| 12:33.29 | Wobin | berserker stance for druids |
| 12:33.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | a 3k crit will wreck me in cat or caster form |
| 12:34.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's about 95% of my hp in cat or resto gear |
| 12:34.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | about 40% of my hp in bear, plus not much can do 3k to me in bear anyway |
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| 12:36.14 | foxlit | mages, mainly |
| 12:36.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah but most of the time mages get crit for 3k by me before they can get their 3k out |
| 12:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless they catch me outta stealth |
| 12:37.21 | AnduinLothar | mages own me :( |
| 12:37.37 | AnduinLothar | i hate mages with a passion |
| 12:37.45 | AnduinLothar | blinking out of stun is hax |
| 12:38.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear the best way is to hope you can outlive their dps |
| 12:38.02 | AnduinLothar | if they didn't have that i'd have a chance |
| 12:38.08 | foxlit | feral charge = hax! :) |
| 12:38.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never fought a mage via attrition |
| 12:38.22 | foxlit | Blink is just expected, work around it |
| 12:38.23 | AnduinLothar | i can't outlive their dps in dps gear |
| 12:38.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i always go for the throat |
| 12:38.38 | grimli | AnduinLothar: What class are you? |
| 12:38.42 | AnduinLothar | pally |
| 12:38.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | palanub |
| 12:38.55 | grimli | But you have like... tons of stuns and crap. :P |
| 12:39.03 | Wobin | lol pally |
| 12:39.05 | AnduinLothar | 1 |
| 12:39.08 | foxlit | Did they really block hearthing while in DS, or is that just a myth? |
| 12:39.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have one controllable stun |
| 12:39.19 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 12:39.25 | grimli | o_o |
| 12:39.33 | foxlit | repetance? |
| 12:39.35 | Wobin | hoj? |
| 12:39.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have....judgement of justice? i think? |
| 12:39.38 | grimli | Funny, as a rogue I always get two consecutive stuns from palas. |
| 12:39.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they never use it |
| 12:39.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | repentance isn't a stun |
| 12:39.43 | cryogen | its a myth thats gets propogated every patch :p |
| 12:39.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like sap |
| 12:39.48 | cryogen | one day they'll actually do it |
| 12:39.50 | JoshBork1 | i use judgement of justice early on |
| 12:39.52 | foxlit | which is even better, since you can't blink out of it |
| 12:40.05 | AnduinLothar | judgement of justice does nothing |
| 12:40.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it breaks on damage, fox |
| 12:40.26 | cryogen | AnduinLothar: it does with rank 2 :) |
| 12:40.41 | AnduinLothar | it makes it so mobs cant run away... which = nothing in pvp |
| 12:40.45 | cryogen | but i think he was referring to seal of justic |
| 12:40.46 | cryogen | e |
| 12:40.50 | JoshBork1 | hm, wrong one |
| 12:40.52 | cryogen | AnduinLothar: rank2 = snare |
| 12:40.55 | JoshBork1 | seal of justice i mean |
| 12:41.06 | AnduinLothar | seal is ok but means zero dps |
| 12:41.10 | cryogen | unless they changed that since last timei looked |
| 12:41.44 | AnduinLothar | so if i go seal with a 1h i might be ok... if i can get close to them |
| 12:42.28 | AnduinLothar | usually i get sheeped and then blasted and then frozen and bolted |
| 12:42.38 | AnduinLothar | which means i use freedom and then shield |
| 12:42.48 | AnduinLothar | and/or trinket |
| 12:42.55 | foxlit | shield doesn't help much, though |
| 12:42.57 | AnduinLothar | so if i have all 3 i'm ok |
| 12:43.05 | AnduinLothar | but chances are i still die |
| 12:43.17 | foxlit | You'd typically be sheeped after it, and the nuke-from-distance approach will just be repeated |
| 12:43.27 | AnduinLothar | and if the mage has any support from any class im dead |
| 12:44.40 | AnduinLothar | rogues are easy mode. warriors too |
| 12:44.50 | AnduinLothar | warlocks are 50/50 |
| 12:44.56 | AnduinLothar | hunters own me |
| 12:44.59 | AnduinLothar | mages own me |
| 12:45.06 | AnduinLothar | shamans are 50/50 |
| 12:45.37 | AnduinLothar | druids... depends |
| 12:45.50 | AnduinLothar | but usually i can kill um |
| 12:46.09 | AnduinLothar | long as i remember to freedom their roots |
| 12:46.41 | AnduinLothar | if they fight in cat they die faster. in bear they have a better chance. |
| 12:46.55 | AnduinLothar | best ones shaeshift often |
| 12:47.00 | AnduinLothar | shapeshift* |
| 12:47.02 | Saeris | What could cause the dropdown menu that normally appears upon right-click of a player chat link to simply not appear? The SetItemRef function is secure, yet nothing shows up. |
| 12:47.28 | grimli | AnduinLothar: Odd... I got thoroughly raped vs. a pala on live servers as a hunter. |
| 12:47.46 | AnduinLothar | you fail at hunter |
| 12:47.52 | grimli | o_o |
| 12:48.09 | AnduinLothar | if your pet is out and you play it right i cant ever get to you |
| 12:48.10 | JoshBork1 | man, i broke the quest already :_( |
| 12:48.18 | grimli | The guy just popped his shields and stuff, waited for my mana pool to run dry. |
| 12:48.50 | grimli | Maybe you should get some tips from that pala. ;P |
| 12:49.08 | AnduinLothar | maybe |
| 12:49.39 | AnduinLothar | i can't beat any of my guildie hunters in duels |
| 12:49.47 | AnduinLothar | usually they last forever too |
| 12:50.06 | AnduinLothar | but i always lose just to pure auto-shot |
| 12:50.12 | grimli | o_o |
| 12:50.18 | AnduinLothar | and mana drain |
| 12:50.20 | grimli | Well, it's been a while since I played that guy. |
| 12:50.32 | AnduinLothar | if you mana drain me i'm useless |
| 12:50.43 | AnduinLothar | and usually that's the firts thing they fire |
| 12:50.44 | grimli | If you dispell the mana drain quick enough you lose ~nothing. |
| 12:50.54 | grimli | Or at least come out with more mana than the hunter in question. |
| 12:50.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | <AnduinLothar> druids... depends |
| 12:51.04 | Saeris | How in the world is he going to mana drain a paladin? It takes one second for the first tick to apply. Easily dispellable by then. |
| 12:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't had a chance to fight pallies on my druid yet |
| 12:51.18 | grimli | Exactly, Saeris. |
| 12:51.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd probably just cyclone you and run off though |
| 12:51.30 | JoshBork1 | Mr_Rabies2: don't. it's slow and painful |
| 12:51.45 | AnduinLothar | you'd be suprised how bad i am at dispelling |
| 12:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 12:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've dueled them |
| 12:51.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's far from reasonable |
| 12:51.57 | AnduinLothar | mostly cause i dont decursive spam |
| 12:52.16 | AnduinLothar | and also cause my debuffs are poorly positioned |
| 12:52.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've dueled pallies for an hour and a half before |
| 12:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | without any real signs of either of us losing |
| 12:52.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i finally just /forfeit cause i don't have any patience |
| 12:52.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 12:52.53 | JoshBork1 | i'd say 90 minute duels is patience... |
| 12:52.54 | Saeris | So does anyone have any idea why the right-click player chatlink dropdown menu isn't showing up? Does it show up for any of you? |
| 12:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | that much |
| 12:52.59 | grimli | AnduinLothar: That's your problem then. |
| 12:53.05 | AnduinLothar | heh. i dueled my class leader with 1h once |
| 12:53.10 | JoshBork1 | Saeris: some mod is hooking it improperly |
| 12:53.19 | AnduinLothar | took 30 min |
| 12:53.32 | Saeris | But issecurevariable reads SetItemRef as secure, and no addons are loaded. |
| 12:53.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was bear |
| 12:53.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | he had a 1 hander |
| 12:53.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and a shield |
| 12:54.00 | Teomyr | isnt the ItemRef tooltip for item links in chat? |
| 12:54.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was pretty much impossible for it to go anywhere |
| 12:54.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | we both had effectively infinite mana and health |
| 12:54.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i couldn't dps him, he couldn't dps me |
| 12:54.05 | AnduinLothar | heh. yeah... /quit |
| 12:54.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd just save us both the trouble and cyclone and runoff |
| 12:54.35 | AnduinLothar | it's kinda fun dueling other pallies tho and switching back to 1h when you run outa mana |
| 12:54.57 | Saeris | Teomyr: Yes, but SetItemRef is the function that is called whenever you click on a bracketed item or player name in chat. For links, it displays the tooltip. |
| 12:55.00 | AnduinLothar | whoever can get mana back faster wins |
| 12:55.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | the best things are onlookers |
| 12:55.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're like GODDAMN THIS IS BORING |
| 12:55.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if you see it from either one of our sides in real life we're like sweating and giving the fight of our lives |
| 12:55.25 | Teomyr | Saeris: aah, didn't know it was for player names too |
| 12:55.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the thing AL |
| 12:55.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could do more dps than him |
| 12:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but he got mana back faster |
| 12:55.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it was like an infinite loop |
| 12:55.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | he used more mana but got more back |
| 12:56.00 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 12:56.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used less and got less back |
| 12:56.11 | grimli | Mr_Rabies: What, fight of your lives? o_o |
| 12:56.18 | grimli | I watched a pala vs. pala duel once. |
| 12:56.21 | AnduinLothar | yeah. a prot/holy pally is impossible to kill melee |
| 12:56.23 | grimli | They had time to chat and stuff. |
| 12:56.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i have to counter everything they do perfectly to survive a paladin fight |
| 12:56.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | one screw up and it's over |
| 12:57.00 | AnduinLothar | kings, then triple wis |
| 12:57.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | bash misses then i'm screwed |
| 12:57.35 | AnduinLothar | i get pissed when my hammer missed |
| 12:57.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | which it seems to do |
| 12:57.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | bash misses a LOT |
| 12:57.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's gotta be bugged or something |
| 12:58.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | it misses more than any other ability i've ver seen |
| 12:58.03 | AnduinLothar | im liek at point blank range and it throws the hammer off to the side... i'm like wtf |
| 12:58.20 | JoshBork1 | o.O PTR is up? |
| 12:58.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | char transfers are bugging |
| 12:59.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 12:59.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | copies |
| 12:59.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | why does the blizzard updater icon look like pyramid head |
| 12:59.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't know what it's supposed to be but i'm afraid it's going to rape and or stab me now |
| 13:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh its a wyvern |
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| 13:04.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | or a stingray |
| 13:04.30 | Saeris | News on the right-click player chatlink dropdown: Apparently it's been broken since the last beta patch, in that the dropdown does not show for anyone, ever. |
| 13:05.06 | grimli | I can't rightclick my unitframe either. |
| 13:05.10 | grimli | Or any other unitframes. |
| 13:05.41 | Saeris | Those work fine for me, but I inquired to my guild about the chatlinks, and they report that the dropdown simply doesn't appear. |
| 13:06.07 | Isair | Anyone know if there's a way to access configuration options from lua? (i.e. whether cloak display has been set to on or not) |
| 13:06.38 | Saeris | It should be a CVar of some sort. |
| 13:06.51 | Saeris | Check OptionsFrame.lua in Blizzard's FrameXML. |
| 13:07.05 | Isair | a right thanks |
| 13:09.08 | foxlit | wiki has a list of cvar names somewhere, but I don't think they're annotated |
| 13:13.01 | AnduinLothar | mmm 5am... sleep time |
| 13:14.57 | Isair | the problem is i cant even find where WoW is storing the character specific options |
| 13:16.00 | Elkano | hmmm... WTF\ACCOUNT\<name>\<server>\<char>\savedvariables.lua maybe? |
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| 13:16.23 | cryogen | arent cvars server side? |
| 13:16.33 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 13:16.35 | Isair | that doesnt exist anymore elkano |
| 13:16.37 | Isair | hm maybe |
| 13:17.01 | cryogen | i seem to recall that my options suck as cloak on/off saves between deleting wtf/interface |
| 13:17.13 | cryogen | s/suck/stuck/ |
| 13:17.24 | cryogen | no i didnt, i meant 'such' |
| 13:17.32 | Isair | thanks purl i wouldnt have understood that without you :P |
| 13:17.51 | Isair | crawling through the framexml then |
| 13:17.53 | cryogen | i could of course be dreaming and/or smoking crack |
| 13:18.14 | Isair | no it makes sense because it's really nowhere on the client |
| 13:18.27 | foxlit | One of the wdbs? |
| 13:19.03 | cryogen | that could make sense, ive never deleted that folder |
| 13:19.05 | Isair | no they just cache binary data |
| 13:20.36 | Maldivia | cvars arent server side, they are stored in WTF\config.wtf |
| 13:20.47 | Isair | not the character specific ones |
| 13:20.48 | foxlit | But show cloak isn't a cvar? |
| 13:21.04 | foxlit | Unless ShowCloak(0) is an alias for SetCVar("something", 0) |
| 13:22.36 | Maldivia | cloak and helmet are saved server side |
| 13:22.44 | Maldivia | since they affect how other people see you aswell |
| 13:22.53 | cryogen | there you go :) |
| 13:23.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 13:24.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if bc beta files will work on the ptr |
| 13:24.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | they should, right? |
| 13:25.15 | Maldivia | nope |
| 13:25.19 | foxlit | Meh, addon library should be server-side; client should download relevant stuff when logging in. Bonus feature of keeping everyone on the same version |
| 13:25.28 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: Beta is 2.0.2, PTR is 2.0.1 |
| 13:26.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | have they changed anything big ui wise? |
| 13:26.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, why the heck |
| 13:26.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | why not give us 2.0.2 |
| 13:26.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 13:27.27 | Maldivia | Actually, PTR is 0.0.1 :) |
| 13:27.39 | cryogen | probably because 2.0.1 was QAed and 2.0.2 wasnt :) |
| 13:27.57 | cryogen | blizzard seem to have a very weird QA process |
| 13:28.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it might be the same changes as 2.0.2 brought out |
| 13:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | just |
| 13:28.34 | Maldivia | lol... |
| 13:28.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | numbered as 0.0.1 cause it's the first 2.0 beta |
| 13:28.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | who the hell knows with blizzard |
| 13:28.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 13:28.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | not beta, ptr |
| 13:29.08 | Maldivia | logged in onthe PTR, and got an error message that my account was flagged for expansion, so I should use the beta client instead :) |
| 13:29.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it won't let me copy any chars :| |
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| 13:29.57 | JoshBorke | Maldivia: lol |
| 13:30.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh well |
| 13:30.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/character-copy.html |
| 13:31.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | reload every-> 5 sec |
| 13:31.54 | foxlit | hey, you have a key. |
| 13:31.59 | foxlit | That's better than me :) |
| 13:33.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | damnit i have no idea what build to use on the ptr |
| 13:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess that's what 550 gold or so is for |
| 13:34.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=zZxGMsfrdV0stVh i guess |
| 13:39.14 | krka | weee, this router is kick ass |
| 13:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | whys that |
| 13:49.24 | Saeris | http://wowi.pastey.net/2427-2nzh Are those two functions identical? Basically, I'm asking: are "returnVal" and "reusableTable" both direct pointers to that table in memory, or is "returnVal" just point toward the other pointer? |
| 13:49.51 | JoshBorke | Same thing |
| 13:51.17 | krka | because it's running linux :) |
| 13:53.55 | Saeris | You mean the functions are the same thing, or the lookups are the same? I'm just wondering whether a new pointer will be created for every call to the first function, or if it retrieves the most direct possible pointer to the table and uses that as the return value. |
| 13:57.48 | Saeris | I ask because whoever wrote the 2.0.0 version of UIDropDownMenu.lua made a point of returning "UIDropDownMenu_ButtonInfo" instead of "info" on line 147. |
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| 14:00.38 | JoshBorke | Saeris: they both return a pointer to the table so it is the same table either way |
| 14:01.05 | JoshBorke | the first one doesn't return a pointer to a pointer |
| 14:01.24 | Saeris | Okay, that's what I was wondering. Thanks. |
| 14:01.53 | JoshBorke | i don't know that there is such a thing in lua |
| 14:02.06 | Saeris | I'm often quite sure of things like that until I see Blizzard do something odd like what I pointed out. |
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| 14:06.36 | JoshBorke | i'm so buying one: http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/samsung_develops_machine_gun_sentry_robot_costs_200k.php |
| 14:07.36 | grimli | Actually, if you have 5 points in Master of Deception you can sneak right up and steal one. |
| 14:07.50 | grimli | It's a bit risky though, they have a huge aggro range. |
| 14:19.00 | Garoun|Loupana | guess i'll be working for zangarmarsh expedition faction come live expansion |
| 14:19.12 | Garoun|Loupana | that earthstrike is just oo good to pass up as a tank druid |
| 14:20.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's 2750 armor without thick hide |
| 14:20.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3025 with |
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| 15:57.19 | Adrine_ | Today is a mildly depressing day :( |
| 15:57.35 | Adrine_ | First, weapon skill nerf. It was needed and all that, but goodbye 7% of my damage. :( |
| 15:57.58 | Adrine_ | Second, I'm still :( that one of our paladins DI'd our MT on Maexxna at 6% last night. |
| 15:58.03 | Adrine_ | </emo> |
| 15:58.10 | Adrine_ | That said, good morning, everyone. |
| 15:58.16 | thr | Adrine_: That's not even close to emo. |
| 15:58.44 | thr | Just look at all the poor kids in our I-countries that don't have money to out every evening and party so they have to dress in black and slice thier wrists because they have it oh-so hard. |
| 15:59.08 | thr | the previous statement was SLIGHTLY ironi. |
| 15:59.09 | thr | c. |
| 15:59.35 | thr | Anyways, i need help with a name. |
| 15:59.42 | thr | for my addon, let me try to describe it. |
| 15:59.52 | thr | You all know how titanbar and fubar works? plugin-style-thingy. |
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| 16:00.14 | thr | I'm trying do develop something close to that, atleast the plugin-part, not another "bar". |
| 16:01.03 | JoshBorke | Adrine_: that sucks about maexxna |
| 16:01.25 | thr | Adrine_: Look it from the bright side, if you wipe on less then 6% you won't have any rep cost ;P |
| 16:01.35 | Adrine_ | Heh. |
| 16:02.15 | Adrine_ | It would have been our first kill, and it was our last attempt of the night. |
| 16:02.22 | Adrine_ | So BLEH. |
| 16:02.28 | thr | What are you failing on? |
| 16:02.52 | Adrine_ | Oh, just learning the encounter. We had it down rock solid that last go-round. Except, you know, for the whole DI bit. |
| 16:02.57 | Adrine_ | Last night was our first night on her |
| 16:02.58 | thr | ;P |
| 16:03.13 | zenzelezz | someone managed to cast Blessing of Protection on our MT once when he was pulling Anub'Rekhan |
| 16:03.25 | Adrine_ | Hit the enrage with 1 person down, timed it so we hit it right after Web Wrap. We were cookin'. |
| 16:03.34 | thr | <brags>Ye, my old guild took maexxna on 6 tries with me as RL</brags> ;p |
| 16:03.42 | thr | but maexxna is a very fun fight |
| 16:03.52 | zenzelezz | not all parts of it |
| 16:04.11 | thr | well, actually it is imho - you need to stay alert the whole fight because it constanty changes and has two major phase-shifts. |
| 16:04.14 | zenzelezz | [somepriest]: no LOS to <random guy on wall> |
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| 16:04.28 | thr | you know you can't heal them when they are fully wrapped. |
| 16:04.34 | Adrine_ | Any way around the wrap LOS issue? |
| 16:04.56 | thr | you can only heal them before they get wrapped, and when the wrapp is.. well, wrapping... not when they are fully wrapped. |
| 16:04.58 | Adrine_ | We seemed to not have too much of a problem last night - we had very few dying in the wraps one our last few attempts - but if there's a way to get better, I'd love to know about it. |
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| 16:05.29 | zenzelezz | I've not been wrapped too often, but I thought I received heals after being fully wrapped |
| 16:06.02 | zenzelezz | I'm lead to believe this at least because of the healers only complaining about some spots on the wall |
| 16:06.44 | foxlit | Not true, tbh |
| 16:06.51 | Adrine_ | I've experienced the same |
| 16:06.54 | foxlit | You can heal through the wrap alright, just not at all locations |
| 16:06.59 | Adrine_ | I was getting healed all the way to the point that it broke last night. |
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| 16:07.34 | cogwheel | How are cross-realm names formatted? "Name - Realm"? |
| 16:07.49 | foxlit | Name-Realm? |
| 16:08.16 | foxlit | I've got code to handle that somewhere, will check |
| 16:08.22 | cogwheel | ty |
| 16:09.09 | foxlit | local _,_, name, server = string.find(arg4,"([^-]+)-(.+)"); |
| 16:09.09 | Maldivia | it's name-realm |
| 16:09.17 | cogwheel | kk |
| 16:13.32 | cogwheel | foxlit: "(.-)-(.*)" is a bit clearer ;) and in 2.0 you'll be able to use strmatch instead of string.find so you don't need the two dummy variables... :) |
| 16:14.55 | Adrine_ | (.-)-(.*) looks like ascii art for pair of malformed, tattooed breasts. |
| 16:17.48 | foxlit | - = non-greedy match? |
| 16:18.12 | cogwheel | yep |
| 16:19.41 | foxlit | Meh, I need to reread that part of the manual |
| 16:20.01 | foxlit | Can't for the life of me remember which of +* is at least 1 and which is at least 0 |
| 16:20.29 | JoshBorke | foxlit: + is at least one, greedy, * is 0 or more, greedy |
| 16:20.36 | JoshBorke | - is 0 or more, non-greedy |
| 16:21.38 | foxlit | So "(.-)-?(.*)" is probably even better? |
| 16:21.46 | JoshBorke | dunno what you're trying to match |
| 16:22.00 | foxlit | Names. |
| 16:22.05 | foxlit | They're either Name or Name-Realm |
| 16:22.07 | Adrine_ | And ? is 0 or 1 |
| 16:22.42 | foxlit | That should match both, hopefully |
| 16:24.30 | Adrine_ | I'm pretty sure that http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8745798767533656234&q=warcraft+hardware&hl=en is my favorite WoW video ever. |
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| 16:37.26 | Corrodias | it is a particularly magnificent one, Adrine_. |
| 16:42.57 | krka | foxlit: i'd go with ([^-]-)(-(.+))? i think |
| 16:45.17 | Corrodias | the main reason i don't like google video nearly as much as youtube or the best of google video site is that it doesn't have a way to submit comments |
| 16:45.44 | Adrine_ | Hm. Anyone else unable to log into the WoW forums? |
| 16:45.52 | Adrine_ | Attempting to log in just kicks me back to the login page. |
| 16:45.58 | Adrine_ | No error message or anything. |
| 16:46.21 | cogwheel | It does that sometimes... Depends on how busy the login server is, i think... and on tuesdays it's usually pretty busy... |
| 16:46.36 | Adrine_ | Oh, it's Tuesday, right. |
| 16:46.41 | Adrine_ | I want to request GetMailboxItemLink(index) for 2.0 in the suggestions thread. |
| 16:48.13 | Adrine_ | I don't think I've ever been affected by a maintenance period. I'm always at work :D |
| 16:48.27 | grimli | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?yes.png |
| 16:48.48 | grimli | Adrine_: Create a character on Twisting Nether in Europe... |
| 16:49.03 | Iriel | Adrine_: Are you sure you can't already get that? |
| 16:49.19 | Adrine_ | Iriel: Unless it's been changed for 2.0 already and not documented, yes. |
| 16:49.40 | Adrine_ | name, itemTexture, count, quality, canUse = GetInboxItem(index) |
| 16:49.48 | Adrine_ | No link (and thus, no ID, tooltip, etc) |
| 16:49.50 | Iriel | Oh, you want the link. |
| 16:49.53 | Adrine_ | Yup |
| 16:49.55 | Iriel | Not just the info |
| 16:49.58 | Adrine_ | Correct |
| 16:50.06 | Adrine_ | For "offline" storage and retrieval |
| 16:50.35 | Iriel | You may want to ask for the link as part of the result of the existing function, rather than a new API, or suggest both - it might meet less resistance |
| 16:53.44 | Adrine_ | Well, I guess I was thinking that it'd be in keeping with convention. You have GetAuctionItemLink(), GetContainerItemLink(), GetCraftItemLink(), etc etc |
| 16:53.59 | Adrine_ | Though, I guess that the Mail function is somewhat unique already |
| 16:57.26 | Iriel | *nods*, the logic for a separate API makes sense, but making it clear it's just an extensionon what we already have tends to help its chance of acceptance |
| 16:58.27 | Adrine_ | Good advice. :) |
| 16:59.04 | Adrine_ | Now, just to wait for the forums to start accepting logins again! |
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| 17:15.03 | cogwheel | Iriel, you should really put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem in your signature so I don't have to keep linking it when people start accusing you of various biases :P |
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| 17:36.00 | Auspuff | hi |
| 17:36.07 | Gryphen | heya |
| 17:38.49 | cogwheel | morning, Cairenn |
| 17:38.53 | Cairenn | hey |
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| 18:03.28 | Thunder_Child | PTR & Beta Character copy pages are erroring out from use |
| 18:03.31 | Vallerius_work | <3 Cairenn, key came in yesterday |
| 18:03.37 | Cairenn | yay |
| 18:05.26 | foxlit | US one, Val? |
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| 18:14.29 | Saroz | anyone in EPL that can dump GetNumWorldStateUI()? |
| 18:16.42 | ckknight_ | hey all |
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| 18:24.51 | Vallerius_work | foxlit: yes, US. from the first batch. |
| 18:26.21 | foxlit | thanks :) |
| 18:26.38 | thr | Is there any way to rotate a texture thru lua code? |
| 18:26.42 | thr | (or xml) |
| 18:26.58 | foxlit | yes, iirc. |
| 18:27.08 | thr | how? ;p |
| 18:28.03 | foxlit | SetTexCoord |
| 18:28.11 | zenzelezz | through sheer force of will! |
| 18:28.27 | foxlit | Check http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations |
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| 18:28.52 | foxlit | Applying a rotation of 90 degrees can then be done by using: |
| 18:28.52 | foxlit | local cos, sin = math.cos, math.sin; |
| 18:28.52 | foxlit | local angle = math.rad(90); |
| 18:28.52 | foxlit | setCoords(texture, cos(angle), sin(angle), 1, -sin(angle), cos(angle), 1); |
| 18:28.54 | thr | <TexCoords> element in Xml works also, ye? |
| 18:29.13 | foxlit | dunno, haven't used it. |
| 18:29.18 | thr | hm ok |
| 18:29.19 | thr | thnx tho |
| 18:29.43 | Thunder_Child | End: check out a little test addon Iriel wrote a while back: TextureSpinTest-0.1-10900.zip">http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/TextureSpinTest-0.1-10900.zip |
| 18:31.04 | thr | hm meh, that is to much work jsut for looks ;P |
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| 18:35.19 | foxlit | Hm, the last example on the wiki should be a function that takes a texture and rotates it by an angle |
| 18:35.43 | foxlit | Rather than requiring you to use sin/cos as arguments |
| 18:35.47 | thr | foxlit: yes, but it's to much fork just for the looks of something. |
| 18:35.53 | thr | *work. |
| 18:36.06 | foxlit | rotateTexture(t, angle) |
| 18:36.08 | Thunder_Child | like iamhef: TextureSpinTestFrame.angle = angleOfRotation + 45 |
| 18:36.08 | Thunder_Child | iamhef: local a = math.rad(TextureSpinTestFrame.angle) ? |
| 18:36.44 | cogwheel | If you just want to rotate it 90 degrees, it's not that painful... just use the UL, UR, LL, LR format and rotate them manually in your mind... |
| 18:37.01 | thr | cogwheel: ye, but i tried doing in the texcoords-elemtn |
| 18:37.02 | thr | but i failed, misserably. |
| 18:37.03 | thr | ;< |
| 18:37.44 | thr | you know the scroll up/down button textures? I'm after those but i want them to point left/right instead. |
| 18:37.45 | cogwheel | s/UL, UR, LL, LR/top, bottom, left, right/ |
| 18:38.32 | thr | ye, but thb i suck majorly at this. |
| 18:38.48 | cogwheel | Ok... if the top is normally on the top, where is it when you rotate it 90 degrees to the right? |
| 18:38.55 | cogwheel | on the right, right? |
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| 18:39.03 | foxlit | Hm, I must be missing something |
| 18:39.04 | thr | ye ok |
| 18:39.06 | thr | u got me there ;P |
| 18:39.07 | foxlit | setCoords(MerchantItem6ItemButtonIconTexture, cos(angle), sin(angle), 1, -sin(angle), cos(angle), 1); just blanks the icon |
| 18:39.11 | cogwheel | so whatever number is normally used for "top", put it in the "right" one |
| 18:39.27 | cogwheel | Whatever is used for "right", put in "bottom" |
| 18:39.37 | cogwheel | "bottom"->"left" |
| 18:39.42 | cogwheel | "left"->"top" |
| 18:40.20 | thr | ye, thnx |
| 18:40.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:41.45 | thr | hmm now i managed to rotate it 360 degrees ;< |
| 18:42.03 | thr | basicly no change yes. |
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| 18:42.52 | cogwheel | hmm... i got that wrong... ignore me :P |
| 18:42.59 | thr | ye ;< |
| 18:43.03 | thr | but it should be able |
| 18:43.07 | thr | to do with texcoords right? |
| 18:43.16 | thr | beacause i just flipped it over ;P |
| 18:43.22 | thr | 180 rotation, 90 degrees to much ;( |
| 18:43.58 | cogwheel | you do need to use the ULx, ULy, URx, URy, LLx, LLy, LRx, LRy method |
| 18:44.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | did any1 figure out the itemliks yet ? itemid:enchantid:socket1:socket2:socket3: ? :suffixid:uniqueid |
| 18:44.20 | thr | hm ok. |
| 18:44.25 | thr | ah well. |
| 18:44.28 | foxlit | meh, the wiki example of that doesn't seem to work for me. |
| 18:44.47 | foxlit | Texture fails to display anything for any angles other than 180 |
| 18:45.01 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations |
| 18:45.04 | Iriel | If nobody's linked it yet |
| 18:45.18 | Iriel | (BUt I see they have) |
| 18:46.54 | thr | haha |
| 18:47.03 | thr | nice comment in the blizzard frameXMl for scollbars |
| 18:47.04 | thr | "<!-- The code to disable the ScrollDownButton is pretty hacked, but it works -->" |
| 18:47.12 | cogwheel | :) |
| 18:47.19 | foxlit | Ah, I see. |
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| 18:50.52 | Antiarc | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=15254 |
| 18:50.53 | Antiarc | :O |
| 18:51.35 | nymbia | wow |
| 18:51.45 | nymbia | proc's probably pretty rare |
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| 18:57.08 | Antiarc | It's apparently a 10% proc on crit |
| 18:57.16 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/TBC/TBC7.jpg |
| 18:57.34 | Antiarc | So a 30% crit rogue has a 3% chance to proc it on an appropriate defense/resilience-level target. |
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| 18:59.41 | Thunder_Child | i want http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=14725 |
| 19:01.44 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/BN.jpg |
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| 19:04.18 | amro | hello |
| 19:04.33 | Neuro_Medivh | did someone give you permission to speak? |
| 19:05.08 | amro | I'm doing fine thank you, how about you? |
| 19:05.12 | cogwheel | ~lart Neuro_Medivh |
| 19:05.16 | cogwheel | :P |
| 19:05.19 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 19:05.39 | amro | what's up |
| 19:05.57 | Industrial | I loaded up my own addon and checked the addons. Its not loading and says Incompatible. Where do I start reading? :E |
| 19:06.38 | Cairenn | did you change the TOC? |
| 19:07.08 | Industrial | no, but shouldnt "load out of date addons" fix that? |
| 19:07.13 | Industrial | oh, maybe it doesnt hm |
| 19:07.27 | Industrial | oh and Cairenn |
| 19:07.33 | Cairenn | they WILL NOT LOAD if the toc doesn't match |
| 19:07.34 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6832 |
| 19:07.44 | Thunder_Child | says incompatible, where? |
| 19:07.54 | Industrial | thanks for putting up with my anoying crap :E Im in the beta now ^^ |
| 19:08.07 | Industrial | ~hug Cairenn |
| 19:08.09 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 19:08.10 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 19:15.44 | Industrial | * NEW count = UnitHasBuff("unit", "name"[, "rank"]) |
| 19:15.46 | Industrial | * NEW count = UnitHasDebuff("unit", "name"[, "rank"]) |
| 19:15.47 | Industrial | wewt |
| 19:16.54 | grimman|afkish | ! |
| 19:17.02 | grimman|afkish | That's awesome. |
| 19:18.08 | Neuro_Medivh | I thought slouken removed that |
| 19:18.40 | foxlit | "name" is annoying |
| 19:19.16 | foxlit | Unless it can interpret english regardless of the client locale |
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| 19:22.53 | Thunder_Child | cant there simply be a lib that acts as a translator between every english mod and the local client |
| 19:22.53 | Thunder_Child | ? |
| 19:23.01 | Tuller | hrm, there's shine stuff in the UI parent code |
| 19:23.20 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, um... AceLocale? |
| 19:23.25 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: not without completely recreating item & spell databases |
| 19:23.56 | ckknight | well, we have Babble-Spell |
| 19:24.11 | ckknight | but items can typically be sent as just the itemlinks, so no real issue there |
| 19:24.20 | foxlit | I wrote texture-based automatic localization. It's darn ugly, but it works |
| 19:24.32 | foxlit | (for the spells in your spellbook, that is) |
| 19:24.59 | Maldivia | The UnitHasBuff/UnitHasDebuff was removed again (afaik) |
| 19:25.19 | Maldivia | think slouken added name support to UnitBuff/UnitDebuff instead |
| 19:30.44 | foxlit | Oh, that's evil |
| 19:30.50 | foxlit | local angle = math.rad(90); |
| 19:30.50 | foxlit | setCoords(texture, cos(angle), sin(angle), 1, -sin(angle), cos(angle), 1); |
| 19:30.59 | foxlit | but cos() takes degrees :/ |
| 19:32.25 | Maldivia | foxlit: you're trying to rotate a texture ? |
| 19:32.29 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 19:32.42 | foxlit | Or, rather, I want to rewrite the example on wowwiki |
| 19:33.42 | Maldivia | foxlit: this is how I do it, in one of my addons: http://wowi.pastey.net/2442 |
| 19:35.12 | foxlit | s2half? |
| 19:35.15 | Maldivia | refresh :) |
| 19:35.42 | Maldivia | but it's sqrt(2) / 2 |
| 19:35.48 | foxlit | Okay |
| 19:36.06 | foxlit | So Texture:SetTexCoord(CalcCoords(0)); should get me no rotation? |
| 19:36.33 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 19:37.06 | foxlit | Doesn't do that; it flips the image horizontally and bends it 45 degrees to the right |
| 19:37.35 | Maldivia | yeah ok |
| 19:37.49 | Maldivia | (-math.pi / 2) should be no rotation :) |
| 19:38.35 | foxlit | Nope :( |
| 19:39.06 | Maldivia | let me see, been a long time since I've worked with it |
| 19:39.06 | foxlit | It doesn't rotate it at (-math.pi / 4);, but it still flips it horizontally |
| 19:40.56 | foxlit | Ah, er. |
| 19:41.02 | foxlit | math.cos(rad) and cos(deg) |
| 19:42.01 | Maldivia | foxlit: ohh well, my texture I use with that function doesn't have an up and down, so might have flipped it :) |
| 19:42.06 | Maldivia | heh |
| 19:43.11 | thr | I love this feeling |
| 19:43.31 | thr | Just wrote ~100 lines of code to handle some UI stuff, without testing ones.. and it works on the first run |
| 19:43.34 | thr | <3 |
| 19:44.14 | Neuro_Medivh | God, they should never have allowed people to get premade characters on test that one time... now people want it every single time |
| 19:44.45 | foxlit | What are they testing, anyway? |
| 19:44.51 | zenzelezz | so... I finally get Nefarian's head, and Bolvar seems to be stuck in a fighting pose where I can't talk to him, even though there's no mobs around, Prestor is there... |
| 19:45.27 | thr | zenzelezz, lol ;< |
| 19:46.44 | Maldivia | foxlit: ahh yeah, now I remember, I rotated the texture 45 degrees, because of how the textures work with stretching :) |
| 19:46.55 | Teomyr | damn |
| 19:47.19 | Teomyr | excessive use of moderation, continued: http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11117&sid=3 |
| 19:49.00 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure I understand Teo |
| 19:49.11 | Cairenn | the number of locked posts |
| 19:49.19 | Teomyr | yes |
| 19:49.23 | foxlit | the number of bluetagged posts too |
| 19:49.26 | zenzelezz | hm, I missed those icons o_O |
| 19:49.27 | Teomyr | not only on the first page |
| 19:51.52 | zenzelezz | I think this is the first time I've reported anything, except right after global LFG went live o_O |
| 19:52.00 | Maldivia | foxlit: http://wowi.pastey.net/2444 -- 0 is up, and it rotates counter clockwise (and not flipped). |
| 19:53.34 | nevcairiel | stupid people .. spamming the whole PTR forums because someone spread the rumor again :) |
| 19:53.47 | zenzelezz | "the rumor"? |
| 19:53.49 | Shadowed | heh, so I take it the rumor of the PTR going up is false then! |
| 19:54.10 | Maldivia | the PTR client is out |
| 19:54.14 | Maldivia | the servers are up :) |
| 19:54.17 | Shadowed | ah |
| 19:54.23 | nevcairiel | whatever it is, rumor, fact, whatever, the posts are useless shit and deserve to be moderated to hell :) |
| 19:54.37 | Shadowed | did the castspell/targetunit restrictions go into effect too? |
| 19:54.42 | Maldivia | yes |
| 19:55.06 | Shadowed | as in, someone tested it? ( just want to make sure before I go bug guild ) |
| 19:55.17 | nevcairiel | is the increased debuff limit in the PTR patch? |
| 19:55.19 | Teomyr | nevcairiel: well said :D |
| 19:55.20 | nevcairiel | or is that only BC ? |
| 19:55.39 | foxlit | local s2 = math.sqrt(2) * 0.90; -- voodoo :) |
| 19:55.57 | Maldivia | why voodoo ? :) |
| 19:56.21 | foxlit | Why * 9/10? :) |
| 19:56.43 | Maldivia | it's just to shrink it a big, so you can actually turn in 45 degrees - and yes, I know 0.9 isn't the correct number :) |
| 19:58.07 | Maldivia | but it was the number I choose, so the texture was big enough, without too much being cropped :). |
| 19:58.14 | Amadeo | anyone have a spare US BC key? :( |
| 19:58.30 | foxlit | Mm, I'm testing on the pvp icon, so it's non-obvious |
| 19:58.34 | Cairenn | ? |
| 19:58.47 | ckknight | Amadeo, ? |
| 19:58.59 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:59.31 | Amadeo | answered :) |
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| 20:03.51 | foxlit | Maldivia: you should probably add that to the wiki, it's missing a simple copy/paste function |
| 20:04.44 | Maldivia | hmm... probably |
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| 20:09.58 | Maldivia | although, the example given there, iwth the tranformation matrix describes it quite well, I'd say |
| 20:10.18 | Maldivia | s/tranformation/rotation/ |
| 20:12.32 | Shadowed | Anyone on CastSpell US that not AFK? :p |
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| 20:13.45 | foxlit | It's wonderful, but it doesn't work |
| 20:14.09 | foxlit | For any angle other than 180, for some reason |
| 20:14.46 | Maldivia | hmm, ok |
| 20:15.26 | ckknight | Shadowed, I am, I could log on. |
| 20:15.32 | ckknight | but I don't think I can invite. |
| 20:15.38 | Shadowed | everyone can invite i think |
| 20:15.43 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 20:15.44 | Shadowed | and wow is hellsfire lagging :( |
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| 20:15.55 | Shadowed | if you wouldn't mind ckknight that'd be great |
| 20:16.14 | ckknight | Cairenn, I wasn't able to yesterday. |
| 20:16.19 | ckknight | lemme log on |
| 20:16.25 | Cairenn | gimme a minute then, I'll log in |
| 20:16.54 | ckknight | k |
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| 20:17.28 | Cairenn | Shadowed: name? |
| 20:17.31 | Shadowed | Shadowedd! |
| 20:17.45 | Cairenn | k |
| 20:17.52 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 20:19.37 | Cairenn | ah, the problem was you weren't promoted to member |
| 20:19.43 | Cairenn | member or higher can invite |
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| 20:23.02 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 20:23.14 | Shadowed | anyone know how rampage works? I can't seem to get it to stack after any kind of attack :/ |
| 20:23.30 | Cairenn | there you go, all fixed up, both sides |
| 20:23.48 | Shadowed | ah, nevermind. Guess it's just lag causing it |
| 20:24.43 | Gello | rampage is currently bugged. you need to use it twice to get it to accumulate counters |
| 20:24.56 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 20:25.10 | Shadowed | That would explain why it decided to stack one time, then not again. |
| 20:25.27 | Gello | yeah that talent has a lot of issues even when it works well :( |
| 20:25.57 | Shadowed | oh well |
| 20:26.05 | Shadowed | @!#$ |
| 20:26.06 | Shadowed | hi fel reaver |
| 20:26.44 | ckknight | oh, I don't have an ally char on Hellfire |
| 20:26.48 | ckknight | lemme make one. |
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| 20:27.26 | Shadowed | Fel Reaver crits you for 3228. Fel Reaver hits you for 1847. (crushing) odd |
| 20:27.59 | Teomyr | Flamewaker Elite crits you for 12503. |
| 20:28.11 | Shadowed | Isn't crushing suppose to be the same as crit though |
| 20:29.12 | Teomyr | the results may be similiar, but crushing is more closely tied with defense values |
| 20:30.53 | Shadowed | ah |
| 20:35.04 | DrDre | CM said fel reaver was an ORB O.o |
| 20:35.13 | DrDre | what did he drop when ppl killedh im |
| 20:36.12 | Shadowed | ORB? |
| 20:36.22 | foxlit | "Shapeshifting will now break "Nogginfogger Elixir" effect. " noooooooo |
| 20:36.28 | DrDre | outdoor raid boss |
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| 20:36.38 | Xuerian | Whaaaa? |
| 20:36.43 | Xuerian | Why the hell should it break shifting? |
| 20:36.47 | DrDre | no more druids hiding their form |
| 20:36.57 | DrDre | druids was using noggens so u couldnt see what form they was in |
| 20:37.01 | foxlit | Hope that works with ghostwolf and deviate fish |
| 20:37.07 | Xuerian | Whiny bitches >_< |
| 20:37.21 | Xuerian | Screws the rest of the game for those of us who don't pvp |
| 20:37.27 | foxlit | Not that you couldn't still look at the mana bar |
| 20:37.33 | DrDre | i never seen anyone who did it, but its a good change i didnt know it was possible |
| 20:37.57 | DrDre | hows it screw the game >_>? |
| 20:38.11 | Shadowed | It was annoying in WSG with a druid carrier |
| 20:38.26 | Shadowed | but it was hardly a big deal since if you actually knew how to play you could figure out form in a few seconds |
| 20:38.33 | Xuerian | That's the point |
| 20:38.42 | Xuerian | In pvp, you only have to have brains to see it within a second or less |
| 20:38.46 | Shadowed | lol |
| 20:38.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys is there any1 here that had some expeirence whit tooltips and how they work |
| 20:39.04 | Xuerian | "Uh, he has a.... Red mana bar! HE MUST BE A OOMKINOMG!" |
| 20:39.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | becase now the sockets are inside them i wana know witch color of sockets there are inside the item :P' |
| 20:39.18 | DrDre | type ToolTip:CreateInfiniteGold(); |
| 20:39.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | DrDre: it says attamp to call nil CreateInfiniteGold |
| 20:40.04 | Xuerian | DrDre: It ruins the FUN of being able to run around as a shrunken skeleton out of pvp. There's no point. There's no point to all of noggenfogger except the lightness, which isn't visible in any form! |
| 20:40.19 | Shadowed | foxlit: where is this anyway |
| 20:40.28 | Shadowed | I know they fixed it in like 1.10 but broke it again |
| 20:40.32 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.1_Release_Notes |
| 20:42.40 | Shadowed | "The Rend Blackhand arena event in Upper Blackrock Spire will now properly reset after a wipe. " how long did that take? |
| 20:44.41 | foxlit | Never wiped on that event in the history of the game :( |
| 20:44.58 | Shadowed | I usually hearthed out long before it was an issue! |
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| 21:00.01 | Bizzy | hey, i cant seem to find a formula that allows you to work out what level you are based on how much xp you have |
| 21:00.08 | ckknight | classtime |
| 21:00.24 | ckknight | Bizzy, see wowwiki |
| 21:01.13 | Bizzy | im looking at the wowwiki, it doesnt have what im looking for |
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| 21:02.42 | Maldivia | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:XP_To_Level |
| 21:03.16 | Maldivia | may I suggest you look harder, next tile |
| 21:03.18 | Maldivia | time* |
| 21:04.40 | Teomyr | where exactly on this page is a formula which calculates what level the player is based on the total xp? :P |
| 21:05.07 | Tuller | hurray, I have a shapeshift bar again |
| 21:06.14 | Maldivia | Teomyr: XP = ((8 × CL) + Diff(CL)) × MXP(CL) |
| 21:06.22 | Maldivia | calculates the xp needed for a certain level |
| 21:06.27 | Maldivia | it's easy math, to reverse |
| 21:07.38 | Maldivia | for level 32+, it can be described as: XP to Level = 65x2 - 165x - 6750 |
| 21:08.17 | Maldivia | again, easy math to isolatex |
| 21:09.03 | Maldivia | but why even bother figuring out your level from xp? |
| 21:09.03 | Teomyr | hmm |
| 21:09.27 | Teomyr | that's what i'd like to know too :D |
| 21:09.46 | Bizzy | Maldivia: thats xp to level |
| 21:09.58 | Bizzy | not work how what level you ARE with your xp |
| 21:10.14 | Teomyr | The total experience needed to reach level 60 is 4,084,700. |
| 21:10.19 | Teomyr | what would be the formula on that? |
| 21:10.56 | Bizzy | im not looking at it that way |
| 21:11.08 | Maldivia | Bizzy: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:11.26 | Bizzy | im looking at it as, i have 4,084,700 xp, now i need to mathimaticaly work out what level i am |
| 21:11.55 | Antiarc | Uggggggh. Trying to figure out how to transition to 25-man raids come BC is not fun. |
| 21:12.05 | Teomyr | that's how i interpreted it too, but i couldn't find a formula on that :/ |
| 21:12.07 | Maldivia | for i = 1, 70 do sum=sum = xpToLevel(i); if sum > 4084700 then message("I'm level " .. i) end end |
| 21:12.18 | Neuro_Medivh | Antiarc, sure it is |
| 21:12.25 | Neuro_Medivh | first 25 who make 70 |
| 21:12.29 | Antiarc | We have about 110 active raiders of varying degrees of skill, dedication, and experience. |
| 21:12.33 | Teomyr | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guides |
| 21:12.48 | Teomyr | quick formulas |
| 21:12.53 | Antiarc | Neuro_Medivh: There's little consideration there for class balance or ability :P |
| 21:13.13 | Neuro_Medivh | all the classes bleed into one at 70 anyway, didn't you know? |
| 21:13.20 | Antiarc | Ah, silly me! |
| 21:13.48 | Antiarc | Blizzard should make a raid instance where you have to get any 25 people to form Voltron and then go do the raid. |
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| 21:13.56 | Antiarc | Tada, no need for class balance! :D |
| 21:14.14 | Neuro_Medivh | what if you have 3 arms, 1 leg, and the torso is afk? |
| 21:14.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:15.43 | Neuro_Medivh | I'd love to see a Robot Chicken like that... Voltron fighting some big bad guy, and suddenly the right arm won't move.. "Bobby, what's wrong?" Cut to inside the Right Arm Lion, where he's either afk in the bathroom or alt-tabbed watching porn |
| 21:16.16 | Antiarc | Hahahahahah |
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| 21:20.22 | Warla | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1254601&sid=1 <-- tell me what you think |
| 21:22.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | muhaha got it :P |
| 21:22.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | GameTooltip:AddTexture |
| 21:24.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | Warla: iv never been any high cook but from wut i read there i think your right :p |
| 21:24.59 | |FF|Im2good4u | a profersino that realy annoys me ihas always been first iad :( |
| 21:25.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | i cnat evn get 20 things |
| 21:28.14 | foxlit | Only it's swiftthistle tea |
| 21:28.16 | foxlit | Not goldthorn |
| 21:28.41 | Teomyr | no, there's a goldthorn tea too, which restores mana |
| 21:29.23 | foxlit | Hah, indeed it is. |
| 21:29.40 | foxlit | Bet swiftthistle is made more often though :) |
| 21:30.10 | Teomyr | probably :D |
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| 21:32.22 | Kaso | hm, its not possible to cast a spell on a target if hostile, otherwise assist it and cast spell, in 2.0 is it |
| 21:34.02 | Teomyr | Kaso: have a look at Conditional Macro Commands on the wowi front page |
| 21:34.20 | Kaso | they only apply to casting spell though dont they |
| 21:34.47 | Neuro_Medivh | Kaso, they apply to assist as well |
| 21:34.52 | Kaso | oh |
| 21:35.10 | Teomyr | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.17 | Kaso | sweet |
| 21:35.22 | Neuro_Medivh | your macro would be: /assist [help] target /cast [help] spell; [harm] spell |
| 21:35.32 | Neuro_Medivh | two lines |
| 21:35.56 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, change that |
| 21:36.15 | Neuro_Medivh | hmmm |
| 21:36.50 | Neuro_Medivh | here's the actual macro then |
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| 21:39.15 | Neuro_Medivh | here's the macro that does exactly what you want, Kaso: It's 4 lines /cast [harm] spell /stopmacro [harm] /assist /cast [harm] spell |
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| 21:41.33 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:42.22 | Maldivia | Neuro_Medivh: /cast [harm] Spell; [target=targettarget,harm] Spell |
| 21:43.10 | Neuro_Medivh | he wants to assist his target though |
| 21:43.14 | Maldivia | ohh |
| 21:43.16 | Neuro_Medivh | that's the tricky part |
| 21:43.56 | Maldivia | well, 2 lines then |
| 21:44.04 | Maldivia | Neuro_Medivh: /cast [harm] Spell; [target=targettarget,harm] Spell /assist [harm] target |
| 21:44.38 | Maldivia | nevermind |
| 21:44.39 | Neuro_Medivh | Yeah, I thought about that way too, didn't know if assist was affected by the GCD |
| 21:44.54 | Neuro_Medivh | and it's /assist [help] target actually =) |
| 21:44.59 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 21:45.18 | Neuro_Medivh | either way gets you where you wanna go, the important thing is, it's possible |
| 21:45.21 | Neuro_Medivh | =) |
| 21:45.26 | Maldivia | or simplified: /assist [help] target /cast [harm] Spell |
| 21:45.33 | Maldivia | probably the most simplistic version |
| 21:45.57 | Neuro_Medivh | assuming he wants to cast the same spell |
| 21:46.00 | Neuro_Medivh | then yeah |
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| 21:52.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | does any1 got teh link to the ui textures extractor ? |
| 21:53.18 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381215&sid=1 |
| 21:53.19 | cogwheel | |FF|Im2good4u: it's linked on the WoW website |
| 21:53.27 | thr | hmm |
| 21:53.29 | cogwheel | Cairenn = too fast |
| 21:53.32 | Cairenn | errr, this one, rather: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 |
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| 21:54.54 | Shadowed | Cair's a robot cogwheel |
| 21:54.59 | Shadowed | can access her through ~search! |
| 21:57.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | dahm i though so it didnt work on BC :( |
| 21:57.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | does any1 got a mpq opening tool? |
| 21:59.13 | ckknight | ~framexml |
| 21:59.17 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 21:59.32 | ckknight | use that, |FF|Im2good4u |
| 22:01.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO its max os ? |
| 22:01.26 | Cairenn | |FF|Im2good4u: stuff is linked in threads on both the official Blizz UI forums and on WoWI, it's *really* not that hard to find things on your own if you take 2 minutes to look |
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| 22:02.13 | Maldivia | lol... I like the random implementation :) |
| 22:02.25 | Maldivia | return (select(random(select("#", ...)), ...)); |
| 22:02.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | well i fonud the orrginal one but that dont extract BC data |
| 22:02.38 | Cairenn | as I said ... |
| 22:03.08 | Cairenn | go take a look at the front page of WoWI, or at the 2.0 changes thread that the front page of WoWI is copying ... |
| 22:03.27 | Cairenn | one of the very top things you see in both places ... Interface AddOn Kit |
| 22:03.28 | Cairenn | The WoW 2.0 *BETA* Interface AddOn Kit is now available for download here (For use with the Beta only): |
| 22:03.28 | Cairenn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/down...bc/addonkit.zip |
| 22:04.02 | Maldivia | it works with the PTR aswell (if you change a key in the Reg DB) |
| 22:04.29 | Cairenn | folks don't mind helping in here, you know that by now, but you should also know by now that folks get annoyed when it seems that you haven't done anything to try to find the answer for yourself |
| 22:04.49 | Maldivia | setting HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Blizzard Entertainment\Burning Crusade Closed Beta\InstallPath = "C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoWTest"; |
| 22:04.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh yeh oke sorry |
| 22:04.59 | Maldivia | and you can extract the PTR interface |
| 22:05.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | iv helped load of ppl on other games aswel who didnt research sit either i personaly never cared but i can understand if others do |
| 22:06.21 | ckknight | the spelling and grammar fairy just cried a few tears. |
| 22:06.57 | Maldivia | ckknight: but the CEO of AOL cheered :) |
| 22:07.21 | Cairenn | guys .... |
| 22:07.24 | ckknight | lol, I would've figured the chief architect of the IM division of AOL |
| 22:07.58 | cogwheel | Has BWL been in the game forever? |
| 22:08.07 | Antiarc | Feels that way, nut no |
| 22:08.08 | Antiarc | but* |
| 22:08.30 | cogwheel | Oh.. nm... just found it in 1.6 patch notes |
| 22:09.21 | Maldivia | Cairenn ? |
| 22:09.58 | Maldivia | uhh... the TBC intro cinematics will feature Illidan... |
| 22:10.35 | ckknight | doing what? |
| 22:10.39 | Mikma | cinematics? |
| 22:10.41 | Maldivia | don't know... |
| 22:10.42 | Mikma | where where? |
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| 22:11.07 | zenzelezz | ckknight: just chillin', having some mead, like heroes of old usually did in front of a camera |
| 22:11.21 | Maldivia | (hint: activate Subtitles in the video settings, and the TBC cinematic subtitles will show, while the WoW cinematics play (when you click the TBC cinematics)) |
| 22:11.23 | ckknight | fair enough. |
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| 22:21.14 | DrDre | haste: still around? |
| 22:22.00 | ckknight | classtime |
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| 22:39.02 | Xavalia | with the new patch coming in less then 3 weeks.. howmany guilds will struggle at mc/chromaggus ? |
| 22:39.13 | Shadowed | whats BWL |
| 22:39.18 | Maldivia | people with stupid players |
| 22:39.23 | Shadowed | not much i'd imagine |
| 22:39.28 | Shadowed | stuff like magic is easy with mass dispell |
| 22:39.41 | Xavalia | yeah but mass dispel will be lvl 70 learanble |
| 22:39.44 | Xavalia | not 60 |
| 22:39.46 | Shadowed | oh? I though it was 60 |
| 22:39.51 | Xavalia | nope |
| 22:39.56 | MentalPower_ | nop, lvl 70 spell |
| 22:40.08 | Kaso | the hardest thing with the patch is downranking, not dispelling imo |
| 22:40.19 | Xavalia | but hot will stack |
| 22:40.27 | Xavalia | that will cover up the downranking |
| 22:40.38 | End | downranking isn't hurt -that- badly |
| 22:41.09 | Kaso | not for sapphron, thats going to be a whole new level of hardness, worse soe for horde |
| 22:41.31 | Shadowed | for sapph? ugh |
| 22:41.33 | Xavalia | or twins at us |
| 22:41.35 | Shadowed | i'm not looking forward to him |
| 22:41.43 | Xavalia | where every healer is downranking to Heal R2 |
| 22:42.24 | Maldivia | not that big a deal |
| 22:42.35 | Kaso | also, good luck to the guilds who used a warrior battleshouting on twins :> |
| 22:43.05 | Antiarc | Heh, yeah, that was us. :/ |
| 22:43.14 | Maldivia | Kaso: why ? |
| 22:43.15 | foxlit | Not too bad, really |
| 22:43.15 | Antiarc | We have some great locks, though, so we'll manage. |
| 22:43.22 | Antiarc | They nerfed BS's threat generation |
| 22:43.29 | foxlit | We killed twins without ever tanking the caster |
| 22:43.30 | Shadowed | I never got around to that |
| 22:43.36 | foxlit | (er, beyond the initial port aggro, that is) |
| 22:43.52 | Maldivia | they nerfed BS threat? ohh... |
| 22:43.56 | Kaso | mhm |
| 22:44.01 | Xavalia | anyway the decursive nerf will hurt many guilds |
| 22:44.11 | Kaso | ive been planning to check on beta how much its is now |
| 22:44.13 | Maldivia | Made nef phase 1 so easy :| |
| 22:45.29 | Kaso | it was about 50/buffed target wasnt it? |
| 22:45.46 | Shadowed | nef phase 1 was pretty easy once you understood it |
| 22:46.34 | Maldivia | done nef with splitting the raid in two, at each entrance so many time |
| 22:46.46 | Maldivia | the BS method made an otherwise tedious job a lot easier |
| 22:47.12 | End | splitting we've never managed to do nef in one try, since we didn't know the colors |
| 22:47.22 | End | with BS spamming, we could one shot every time |
| 22:47.44 | End | (well, I blame not knowing the colors at least, we'd always get it the second try) |
| 22:52.40 | ag` | new aguf on SVN gives the user the ability to create and delete raid groups, and gives them a direct input box to the groupFilter attributes |
| 22:52.54 | ag` | this means that you can have any number of groups you want, and how you want them :P |
| 22:54.55 | axxo | can i have 2 columns, 1 sorted by group, 1 by class? |
| 22:54.57 | zenzelezz | the BS threat was only if the party members weren't already buffed with BS, wasn't it? |
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| 22:56.19 | zenzelezz | a few guild members (rogues/mages) tried to convince us to do the BS spam on Nefarian/Maexxna a while back... nothing ever came of it |
| 22:58.53 | Xavalia | can someone tell me what the addonkit provided by blizzard does exactly? |
| 22:58.58 | Xavalia | the one for Beta |
| 22:59.03 | ag` | axxo: of course |
| 22:59.10 | Maldivia | extracts the framexml code |
| 22:59.26 | Xavalia | owh |
| 23:11.25 | End | urk, when I shift it stopped changing my bars suddenly o_O |
| 23:11.31 | End | I wonder if it got tainted somehow...? |
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| 23:11.56 | End | odd thing was it worked until I went into interface options and made it lock my action bars |
| 23:12.27 | End | well |
| 23:12.31 | End | I can't reproduce it now |
| 23:12.49 | End | although, reloading didn't fix it, relogging completely did |
| 23:38.42 | DrDre | woot PTR crash |
| 23:38.57 | JoshBorke | nice |
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| 23:43.15 | End | that's interessting |
| 23:43.30 | End | ImprovedErrorFrame has been blocked from an action ...blah blah blah |
| 23:43.45 | Kaso | crafting right? |
| 23:43.48 | End | yup |
| 23:45.53 | Industrial | Need help with http://tinyurl.com/ygmp53 , code: http://pastey.net/2453 |
| 23:46.33 | DrDre | anyone got link to toc updating program to get these toc's to 20000 ;/ ? |
| 23:46.45 | End | hah |
| 23:47.00 | Industrial | DrDre: you suck |
| 23:47.03 | MentalPower | DrDre: thats evil |
| 23:47.07 | DrDre | what? |
| 23:47.07 | Kaso | c:\windows\notepad.exe |
| 23:47.10 | DrDre | .... |
| 23:47.13 | DrDre | i have 200 addons |
| 23:47.13 | Industrial | DrDre: I hope you were kidding |
| 23:47.14 | DrDre | no thanks |
| 23:47.18 | End | that won't help you, since it is incredibly unlikely an addon would work with just that change |
| 23:47.21 | Thunder_Child | is there a way to scale the dev tools? |
| 23:47.29 | DrDre | so none will work? |
| 23:47.34 | Industrial | no ofcource not |
| 23:47.35 | Kaso | 99% wont |
| 23:47.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:47.37 | End | DrDre, I don't think you understand the scale of the ui changes |
| 23:47.41 | DrDre | bah i guess i didnt lol |
| 23:47.55 | Kaso | Thunder /run GetMouseFocus():SetScale() :> |
| 23:48.11 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 23:48.13 | End | there is a reason it outright -REFUSES- to load pre-2.0.0 addons |
| 23:48.21 | Thunder_Child | ty, but meh |
| 23:49.09 | wereHamster | can I turn in runecloth to get reputation for teh new factions? |
| 23:49.31 | End | maybe BE or draenei |
| 23:49.42 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: scale the dev tools? |
| 23:49.53 | End | I can't see runecloth being an option for the outland factions |
| 23:50.10 | Thunder_Child | yes, because it gets small |
| 23:50.15 | wereHamster | where are the people where I can turn in items for repotations? in the outlands? |
| 23:50.19 | Thunder_Child | with the ui slider thing |
| 23:50.23 | wereHamster | s/prope/NPCs/ |
| 23:50.33 | wereHamster | argh.. |
| 23:50.34 | Thunder_Child | brain just suddenly crashed |
| 23:51.31 | Thunder_Child | you know i think "Error! Server too busy " is going to haunt my dreams tonight |
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