irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20061118

`00:00.09`	`blas`	`i think its the Fonts/ dir from the photekui.zip`
`00:00.13`	`blas`	`anyway i like it`
`00:00.27`	`blas`	`but the only problem is the "damage txt" changed too`
`00:00.48`	`blas`	`any idea how could i get back only the old dmgtxt?`
`00:01.02`	`blas`	`the fonts look like in clearfont addon ritenow`
`00:01.47`	`zenzelezz`	`think you might have some leftover files then, but wait and see if Kirkburn wakes up if no-one else can answer`
`00:01.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Pong`
`00:02.01`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`00:02.04`	`blas`	`:)`
`00:02.06`	`blas`	`hey`
`00:02.14`	`blas`	`read back kirk please`
`00:02.47`	`blas`	`i think the only thing left from photek is WoW/Fonts/ dir`
`00:02.56`	`blas`	`so they must do this all fontchange in my game`
`00:03.00`	`blas`	`it has 4 files`
`00:03.02`	`blas`	`4 .ttf`
`00:03.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Yup`
`00:03.23`	`Kirkburn`	`It's like a manual override`
`00:03.32`	`blas`	`but as i said :) i like the fonts soo much`
`00:03.41`	`blas`	`only wanna change back the dmg somehow :/`
`00:03.42`	`blas`	`i see`
`00:04.24`	`Kirkburn`	`You basically want ClearFont back how it was?`
`00:04.51`	`blas`	`well i never had clearfont`
`00:05.12`	`blas`	`i just come here because the fonts is like in ClearFont`
`00:05.20`	`blas`	`thats why i try asking here`
`00:05.36`	`blas`	`i think photekui has ClearFonts buildin`
`00:05.48`	`blas`	`so thats why i have it now`
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`00:07.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Okay, I'm slightly confused, sorry :P You want ClearFont, but it to keep the old damage text style?`
`00:07.55`	`wereHamster`	`what's faster, string.len(str) or #str ?`
`00:08.09`	`wereHamster`	`.. or slen(str)`
`00:08.59`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: ill show u a shot.`
`00:09.03`	`blas`	`moment`
`00:09.29`	`Kirkburn`	`(for some reason I can't actually reach the Photek UI page atm :/ )`
`00:09.50`	`Kirkburn`	`(in fact, CG in general)`
`00:10.35`	`blas`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4558-1-photekui-v56b.html`
`00:10.40`	`blas`	`ye. timed out`
`00:10.45`	`blas`	`i downloaded this btw`
`00:11.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Argh, http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/11/17/wow-glider-suing-blizzard/`
`00:12.18`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: http://dump.hu/~blas/wow/ui_1.jpg`
`00:12.26`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: is this ClearFonts ?`
`00:12.28`	`cladhaire`	`Kirkburn: They have a case`
`00:12.51`	`cladhaire`	`The DMCA gets used in lots of ways that are not technically legal, but favor the company`
`00:13.42`	`Kirkburn`	`blas, yes indeed`
`00:14.14`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: nice`
`00:14.15`	`Kirkburn`	`Well, i think it is anyway`
`00:14.53`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: well, i have nurfedui rite now, and a /Font dir from the photek.zip`
`00:15.10`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: so the /Font dir must make this rite?`
`00:15.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah, there's no AddOns/!ClearFont folder?`
`00:15.46`	`blas`	`nope`
`00:16.16`	`Kirkburn`	`In that case it's not CF :P It's just a manual font override`
`00:16.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Basically, WoW/Fonts just replaces the fonts WoW uses, whereas ClearFont also has an addon folder which also modifies the styles slightly`
`00:17.16`	`blas`	`hmm CF looks like the same? if yes. ill try to del that evil Fonts dir and ill install CF manually, then maybe you can tell me the dmgtxt issue :)`
`00:17.48`	`Kirkburn`	`You can tell the difference from, say, the writing on the action buttons - normally it's an awful aliased two tone (e.g. in the screenie), whereas with CF it's actually normal! :P`
`00:18.52`	`blas`	`ok ill install CF now`
`00:18.53`	`cladhaire`	`Kirkburn: I'm sorry, all I heard is "Blah, Blah, Blah, I'm a dirty tramp!"`
`00:18.59`	`blas`	`:)`
`00:19.03`	`Kirkburn`	`Yeah, ClearFont would look similar - I also use the 'evil Fonts dir', but it itself is overriden by the addon :)`
`00:19.20`	`Kirkburn`	`cladhaire, stop reading the subtext!`
`00:19.58`	`cladhaire`	`i'm hungry`
`00:20.02`	`cladhaire`	`do i go out to eat by myself?`
`00:20.11`	`Thunder_Child`	`thats so sad`
`00:20.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`order in`
`00:21.15`	`cladhaire`	`from where?`
`00:21.18`	`cladhaire`	`there's like 2 options`
`00:21.26`	`blas`	`cladhaire: iam hungarian bt`
`00:21.27`	`blas`	`w`
`00:21.28`	`cladhaire`	`delivery here is only pizza`
`00:21.29`	`blas`	`:)`
`00:21.34`	`Thunder_Child`	`common, it cant be that bad`
`00:21.38`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:22.12`	`Tain`	`Plenty of pizza places deliver here, at one Chinese.`
`00:22.24`	`cladhaire`	`ooh`
`00:22.28`	`Mikma`	`what event is fired when druid shapeshifts / warrior changes stance?`
`00:22.28`	`cladhaire`	`chinese could be good.`
`00:22.28`	`Tain`	`Which is more than my last couple of places with no Chinese delivery at all`
`00:22.29`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`00:22.31`	`Tain`	`It made me sad.`
`00:22.39`	`Mikma`	`(the event that swaps the buttons)`
`00:22.39`	`Thunder_Child`	`i have about ~100 places that deliver in my area`
`00:22.51`	`cladhaire`	`i used to.. in college`
`00:22.55`	`cladhaire`	`campusfood.com ruled my life.`
`00:22.58`	`cladhaire`	`well kinda`
`00:23.02`	`cladhaire`	`okay, but once a month it was nice =)`
`00:23.13`	`Tain`	`I used to use Waiters On Wheels in California.`
`00:23.37`	`Mikma`	`anyone knows?`
`00:23.44`	`Thunder_Child`	`i have never even heard of that`
`00:24.16`	`Thunder_Child`	`Tain, how is their priceing?`
`00:25.10`	`Tain`	`They charged like $5-6 or something on top of your order, I think. It was good though because they'd go to a whole slew of restaurants for you.`
`00:25.21`	`Tain`	`So like we'd get TGIFridays delivered for example.`
`00:25.34`	`cladhaire`	`do i order pizza?`
`00:25.45`	`\|Shadow\|`	`cladhaire no you don't :P`
`00:25.48`	`Tain`	`Pizza and buffalo fingers just got to my door.`
`00:25.56`	`\|Shadow\|`	`you order 2, 2 for me. none for you :P`
`00:26.01`	`cladhaire`	`yeah, i was condering pizza and wings.`
`00:26.03`	`Tain`	`Not because I wanted pizza necessarily tonight, but because it'll last through the weekend.`
`00:26.04`	`cladhaire`	`ponder`
`00:26.05`	`cladhaire`	`yeah i do.`
`00:26.12`	`cladhaire`	`Tain: Amen to that!`
`00:27.12`	`Tain`	`Braveheart is on Bravo. I forget is Bravo a channel that chops things up?`
`00:27.13`	`cladhaire`	`my boyfriend was gonna call me and I was going to go to dinner with him, his dad and his brother.. but they are too hungry they're gonna eat at the hotel.`
`00:29.30`	`cladhaire`	`So whens the beta contest start`
`00:29.31`	`cladhaire`	`tonight?`
`00:29.32`	`cladhaire`	`now?`
`00:29.33`	`cladhaire`	`tomorrow?`
`00:29.40`	`Thunder_Child`	`wait..what contest?`
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`00:30.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Tomorrow`
`00:30.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Saturday through Monday`
`00:30.13`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml`
`00:30.13`	`cladhaire`	`thanks ScytheBlade1`
`00:30.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`only 5 hours...seems kinda short`
`00:30.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Very short`
`00:31.23`	`Mikma`	`no-one remembers the event what is fired when druid shapeshifts? :(`
`00:31.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`and i am surpried they are not handing out CE of BC`
`00:32.14`	`Saeris`	`Is that 5 hours in a row or 5 hours on one character or 5 hours logged in on any character?`
`00:32.18`	`End`	`that's fun, curse is borked`
`00:32.42`	`Saeris`	`Mikma: UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM`
`00:32.45`	`Saeris`	`I think.`
`00:32.50`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: nice working and i have !ClearFont folder aswell:) now... can i change the dmg text to woworiginal ?`
`00:33.06`	`Thunder_Child`	`you know it's interesting the the rules do not state that you need to be logged in for 5 hours`
`00:33.14`	`Saeris`	`Yeah, that's only on the summary.`
`00:33.20`	`Mikma`	`Saeris: oh nice, thanks will test it :)`
`00:33.38`	`Saeris`	`It just says "log in", it never specifies a duration.`
`00:33.44`	`Thunder_Child`	`yup`
`00:34.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`i wonder how many others will send in the postcard`
`00:34.25`	`Saeris`	`I wish they were giving away the CE instead of the normal version.`
`00:34.28`	`Mikma`	`Saeris: yay it worked. thanks :)`
`00:34.34`	`Saeris`	`Mikma: Glad to help.`
`00:35.06`	`Kirkburn`	`blas, it's not easy to do, but you can - delete the WoW/Fonts folder, then open ClearFont.lua and delete the lines with DAMAGE_TEXT_FONT and CombatTextFont ... that should do it`
`00:36.10`	`Kaso`	`is that the problem with huge Floating combat text?`
`00:36.23`	`Kaso`	`on, nope`
`00:36.34`	`Kaso`	`Is that you kirkburn, or is that something else`
`00:36.43`	`Kirkburn`	`Is what who where?`
`00:37.05`	`Kaso`	`in the latest patch my Blizzard Floating combat text doubled in size`
`00:37.12`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: thx`
`00:37.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Kaso, can't imagine why`
`00:38.09`	`Kaso`	`it is a mystery`
`00:38.47`	`Kirkburn`	`Just checked wdn, nothing changed in the Fonts.xml file`
`00:39.59`	`Kaso`	`hm`
`00:40.02`	`Kaso`	`odd`
`00:40.13`	`Mery`	`oh why did they push back the release of the ps3 in europe... it would have been so easy to make some money =P`
`00:40.13`	`Kirkburn`	`Here's a mouthful: "AURADISPELOTHER3 = "%s's %s is removed by %s's %s.";"`
`00:40.30`	`Kirkburn`	`Mery because each shop would have only got one to sell? :)`
`00:40.47`	`Mery`	`yeah! exactly what I mean :-)`
`00:40.48`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:42.02`	`Thunder_Child`	`uhhh.....wtf...`
`00:42.10`	`Saeris`	`hahaha`
`00:43.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`bloody carpet munchers`
`00:43.49`	`Kirkburn`	`\o/`
`00:44.18`	`Tain`	`I draw the line at munching a bloody carpet.`
`00:44.32`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`o.O`
`00:44.40`	`cladhaire`	`oh wow`
`00:44.41`	`cladhaire`	`hi`
`00:44.48`	`Gryphen`	`heya`
`00:44.53`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`wtf has been going on in here?`
`00:45.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`well i guess you had to draw the line somewhere`
`00:45.03`	`cladhaire`	`sorry cairenn`
`00:45.08`	`cladhaire`	`its probably my fault.. everythign really is.`
`00:45.12`	`cladhaire`	`unless ckknight is around`
`00:45.14`	`cladhaire`	`then we shift blame`
`00:45.22`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`rofl, is okay, just ... wondering ...`
`00:45.31`	`Tain`	`Yeah I'm ashamed of you all.`
`00:45.36`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`flip over to this channel and see "Kirkburn's Sandy Vagina is removed by Cladhaire's Vacuum"`
`00:45.39`	`Thunder_Child`	`thats ok, everyones over 6 in here`
`00:45.43`	`Thunder_Child`	`i think`
`00:45.45`	`cladhaire`	`Tain, I'm ahamed of your FACE`
`00:46.07`	`Thunder_Child`	`Cairenn\|afk, put it as the channel topic`
`00:46.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Quite a sight, eh, Cairenn?`
`00:46.27`	`Tain`	`My face has no shame.`
`00:46.58`	`Mery`	`wow even the prices for the wii are scary at ebay (and its not just one auction)`
`00:47.36`	`Tain`	`People getting robbed and shot for their PS3s is why I don't feel bad drinking myself to sleep at night.`
`00:47.41`	`Tain`	`The world is already gone.`
`00:48.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`it's not gone, but it is going down`
`00:48.12`	`Thunder_Child`	`and giving up isnt going to help`
`00:48.15`	`Industrial`	`last night it was 18 degrees outside.. hottest november day ever measured in the netherlands..`
`00:48.19`	`Industrial`	`er, yesterday*`
`00:48.42`	`Industrial`	`so im not going to have kids :p`
`00:48.51`	`Industrial`	`damn cars and global warming and shit`
`00:48.54`	`Mery`	`18 degrees celisus*`
`00:49.13`	`Industrial`	`Mery: yeah`
`00:49.20`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`hit 16 here last night, bloody incredible`
`00:50.41`	`Mery`	`well whenever I watch us sports they seem to talk in fahrenheit =)`
`00:50.49`	`Kirkburn`	`Glad to see the warmth totally missed the UK then :(`
`00:51.10`	`Industrial`	`Mery: :s thought they only used that in science and stuff :p`
`00:51.23`	`Kirkburn`	`I bet it visited Canada, scooted around Iceland, then came down from Scandinavia, damn thing! Anything to avoid us :/`
`00:51.23`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`and it's dropping to -1 as the high by Sunday, so there you go`
`00:51.36`	`Mery`	`in UK you always need a umbrella, doesn't matter which time of the year it is.`
`00:51.50`	`Kirkburn`	`Even indoors :P`
`00:53.09`	`Industrial`	`anyone played bf2142 yet?`
`00:53.09`	`Thunder_Child`	`thats not water Kirkburn....`
`00:53.21`	`cladhaire`	`Kirkburn: I almost bought a raincoat todayl... for winder.. with the thought that "hey.. when i'm in england netx year i'll actually use it")`
`00:53.21`	`blas`	`Kirkburn: works thx`
`00:53.29`	`Kirkburn`	`blas, great to hear! :D`
`00:53.35`	`Tain`	`I haven't been paying close enough attention to Braveheart to know if they have been chopping it up to pieces.`
`00:53.41`	`Industrial`	`cladhaire: heh where are you now?`
`00:53.52`	`cladhaire`	`upstate NY`
`00:54.02`	`Tain`	`But they just captured the girl so we'll see if they show her "punishment."`
`00:54.06`	`Thunder_Child`	`do they have a downstate NY?`
`00:54.50`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`00:54.54`	`cladhaire`	`its called New York City`
`00:55.05`	`Tain`	`Then there's down-wind, that's New Jersey.`
`00:55.08`	`cladhaire`	`and if you don't say upstate or central, they assume you're from NYC`
`00:55.08`	`Saeris`	`I doubt they will, Tain.`
`00:55.41`	`Thunder_Child`	`Tain it's rated R vor violence...not for what you want`
`00:55.48`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/vor/for/`
`00:56.57`	`Tain`	`I'm not sure which movie you've watched but I don't remember a lot of sex in Braveheart.`
`00:57.11`	`Thunder_Child`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:57.28`	`Thunder_Child`	`you said it`
`00:57.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Bloody hell: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/17/violence-escalates-during-ps3-launch/`
`00:57.37`	`Tain`	`Ok I was trying not to go out of my way to spoil things in case someone out there hadn't seen it.`
`00:57.46`	`Tain`	`See they tie her to a pole and slit her neck.`
`00:57.53`	`Thunder_Child`	`sure Tain, sure`
`00:58.07`	`Thunder_Child`	`i know i have seen the movie`
`00:58.34`	`Thunder_Child`	`damn thing makes me cry`
`00:59.00`	`Tain`	`They can take your manhood but they'll never take your freedom.`
`01:06.05`	`Thunder_Child`	`anyone know a reason why dot dont work after death in pve but work after in pvp?`
`01:06.13`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/dot/dots/`
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`01:09.49`	`\|Shadow\|`	`looooooooooooool i just killed a level 60 warrior useing only rank 1 spells ;D`
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`01:16.30`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`01:16.56`	`blas`	`nite`
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`01:18.43`	`ckknight`	`how's everyone doing today?`
`01:19.04`	`Thunder_Child`	`some of use seem to be doning better than others`
`01:19.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`doing*`
`01:21.23`	`ckknight`	`good times.`
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`01:30.22`	`ckknight`	`I think thunder is trying to /msg me.`
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`01:32.21`	`SP\|Sorren`	`is there any way to get macros to use icons not listed?`
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`01:34.02`	`SP\|Sorren`	`nvm`
`01:39.21`	`ckknight`	`~beer`
`01:39.23`	`purl`	`ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer))`
`01:39.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`NOOOOOO`
`01:39.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`NOT PURL`
`01:43.45`	`\|Shadow\|`	`omg ckknight lol`
`01:43.46`	`\|Shadow\|`	`you killed it`
`01:44.34`	`\|Shadow\|`	`~beer`
`01:44.35`	`purl`	`ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer))`
`01:44.35`	`Industrial`	`k so`
`01:44.40`	`\|Shadow\|`	`hehe :P`
`01:44.41`	`Industrial`	`battlefield 2142 sucks`
`01:44.45`	`Industrial`	`:(`
`01:44.52`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:(`
`01:45.00`	`Industrial`	`took me 2 hours to even get in game at my own resolution and with my own controls`
`01:45.00`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i have a better game for you Industrial`
`01:45.05`	`Industrial`	`and then it was a squad based fps`
`01:45.07`	`Industrial`	`ugh`
`01:45.11`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol`
`01:45.13`	`Industrial`	`trash next`
`01:45.17`	`\|Shadow\|`	`http://ic1.deviantart.com/fs11/f/2006/204/5/d/3D_Stereogram_Tetris.swf`
`01:45.33`	`Industrial`	`hmm?`
`01:45.54`	`\|Shadow\|`	`hmm?`
`01:46.27`	`Industrial`	`wtf is that lol, i cant see a thing`
`01:46.37`	`\|Shadow\|`	`its a sterogram`
`01:46.45`	`\|Shadow\|`	`your supposed to be able to look at it funny and it all makes sense`
`01:46.52`	`\|Shadow\|`	`personally i've never understood it though`
`01:47.14`	`Industrial`	`http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/`
`01:47.23`	`\|Shadow\|`	`A stereogram is an optical illusion of depth brought into appearance by focusing one's eyes in front of (crossing one's eyes) or behind the image one is looking at, often done with a device. The slight differences in repeated figures or random dots create the illusion of depth in the 2D image, just as the slight difference in perspective between one's eyes creates the perception of depth on 3D objects and scenes.`
`01:47.25`	`Industrial`	`try those`
`01:48.07`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:p`
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`01:54.41`	`Industrial`	`ugh i downloaded 3.5gb for that crap`
`01:55.05`	`Industrial`	`I mean cmon do they really want to make the experience worse?`
`01:55.09`	`Industrial`	`itros are fine - once.`
`01:55.22`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol`
`01:55.22`	`Industrial`	`config files are fine - readable.`
`01:55.35`	`Industrial`	`configuration is fine - sanely.`
`01:56.06`	`Industrial`	`and then i need to first learn this manual on how to command these troops`
`01:56.16`	`Industrial`	`or they will suck and i lose`
`01:57.05`	`Industrial`	`games like Delta Force:Land Warrior, Half-Life:Team Fortress Classic, etc.. were much better lol :P`
`01:58.02`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol`
`01:58.13`	`\|Shadow\|`	`my responce:`
`01:59.20`	`\|Shadow\|`	`;)`
`01:59.51`	`\|Shadow\|`	`hmm im trying to get the unitframes out of reborn ui`
`01:59.53`	`\|Shadow\|`	`its annoying me :(`
`01:59.54`	`Industrial`	`and ofcource tfc. \|Shadow\| do you have a half life 1 steam account? lets play tfc :P`
`02:00.11`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yea i have it but its not downloaded`
`02:00.12`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and i cbf :op`
`02:00.16`	`Industrial`	`Thunder_Child: I challenge you to a tfc match :E`
`02:00.23`	`Industrial`	`\|Shadow\|: 100meg`
`02:00.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`i only have souce installed atm`
`02:00.34`	`Industrial`	`:(`
`02:00.38`	`\|Shadow\|`	`Industrial drop the 0's`
`02:00.43`	`\|Shadow\|`	`English = retarded`
`02:00.59`	`Industrial`	`-_^`
`02:01.09`	`Industrial`	`tfc is like 100MB to download`
`02:01.10`	`Industrial`	`well ok 250`
`02:01.15`	`Industrial`	`still thats 10 minutes :>`
`02:01.16`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol`
`02:01.23`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yea :P`
`02:01.27`	`Thunder_Child`	`it will take 10 min for me`
`02:01.35`	`Industrial`	`cet of your lazy ass`
`02:01.36`	`Industrial`	`2vs1`
`02:01.37`	`\|Shadow\|`	`that and im trying to get the unit frames out of reborn ui`
`02:01.39`	`Industrial`	`get*`
`02:01.53`	`Industrial`	`you2vsme :D`
`02:01.57`	`Thunder_Child`	`maybe....i am dling at 500 KB/s might go a bit faster`
`02:02.12`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge hugo654 (i=hugo@hugo.scnet.cz)`
`02:02.27`	`Thunder_Child`	`sweet i am still geting a ping of 90 in wow`
`02:02.42`	`\|Shadow\|`	`rofl`
`02:02.46`	`\|Shadow\|`	`my ping in wow is never below 100`
`02:03.00`	`\|Shadow\|`	`as i said, this country sucks so bad we can't even make a decent internet connection :(`
`02:03.04`	`Thunder_Child`	`get a better connection`
`02:03.13`	`\|Shadow\|`	`Thunder_Child the line can't even hold 1mb`
`02:03.16`	`\|Shadow\|`	`whats the point of getting 2mb`
`02:03.33`	`Thunder_Child`	`your saying the landline hardware is bad?`
`02:03.40`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol...bad`
`02:03.46`	`\|Shadow\|`	`its a twisted copper pair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`02:03.50`	`\|Shadow\|`	`designed 100 years ago!`
`02:03.52`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:\|`
`02:04.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`lovely`
`02:04.03`	`Industrial`	`amsterdam is getting glass :-)`
`02:04.09`	`Industrial`	`not soon tho :(`
`02:04.10`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yes isn't it just`
`02:04.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`LA is getting it now`
`02:04.21`	`Industrial`	`:o`
`02:04.21`	`\|Shadow\|`	`every country has faster internet than here lol`
`02:04.25`	`\|Shadow\|`	`english internet just sucks period`
`02:04.55`	`Thunder_Child`	`so...it's now at 600KB DL and my ping droped to 70 in wow`
`02:05.03`	`Thunder_Child`	`oh yea, not fair at all`
`02:05.25`	`\|Shadow\|`	`Thunder_Child lol with my 1mb connection`
`02:05.31`	`Industrial`	`ill be warming up >:)`
`02:05.34`	`\|Shadow\|`	`most times when i start a upload, or stop a upload`
`02:05.38`	`Thunder_Child`	`will you lag in tfc?`
`02:05.40`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i get such a violent lag spike`
`02:05.46`	`\|Shadow\|`	`that i disconnect from wow`
`02:05.47`	`Industrial`	`Thunder_Child: depends im european`
`02:05.47`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and msn`
`02:05.52`	`Industrial`	`either you or i have lag`
`02:05.52`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and sometimes even irc too :P`
`02:06.13`	`Industrial`	`\|Shadow\|: then limit your upload not to go full`
`02:06.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`i was refering to \|Shadow\| actualy`
`02:06.19`	`Industrial`	`say, 70%`
`02:06.26`	`\|Shadow\|`	`oO`
`02:06.29`	`\|Shadow\|`	`well lets see`
`02:06.33`	`\|Shadow\|`	`70% of 8kbps`
`02:06.36`	`\|Shadow\|`	`dunno, its not much`
`02:06.38`	`Industrial`	`...`
`02:06.44`	`Industrial`	`you have 8kbps upload?`
`02:06.45`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i have screenshots of my 1mb connection doing 8kbps`
`02:06.50`	`\|Shadow\|`	`no, down.`
`02:07.06`	`Industrial`	`:'D`
`02:07.18`	`\|Shadow\|`	`speed test direct from my isp, 8kbps`
`02:07.25`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i called them about it and they denied it ever happened though`
`02:07.26`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:(`
`02:07.30`	`Industrial`	`i get 600 down 100 up ;\`
`02:08.04`	`Thunder_Child`	`122 ms in IF, i guess i could say that i have a decent connection....should be for what i am paying`
`02:09.56`	`Thunder_Child`	`Industrial, how am i going to find you?`
`02:11.10`	`\|Shadow\|`	`http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3038/9klolpn1.jpg`
`02:11.10`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:D`
`02:11.21`	`\|Shadow\|`	`fuzzied out my phone number and my ip`
`02:11.24`	`\|Shadow\|`	`but there ya go, lol.`
`02:11.46`	`Saeris`	`beyblade? ahaha`
`02:11.59`	`\|Shadow\|`	`beyblade wins :(`
`02:12.04`	`\|Shadow\|`	`it was a while back`
`02:12.08`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i don't listen to beyblade anymore`
`02:12.09`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:p`
`02:12.38`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i should have fuzzied that before i uploaded`
`02:12.40`	`\|Shadow\|`	`but oh well`
`02:12.41`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol`
`02:13.10`	`\|Shadow\|`	`there ya go anyways, 9kbps on my beutifull 1mb connection`
`02:13.17`	`\|Shadow\|`	`if i remember correctly that speed test took about 4 hours lol`
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`02:14.12`	`Thunder_Child`	`Industrial....`
`02:14.31`	`Xavalia`	`does anyone where there is a direct link to the ptr patch?`
`02:14.38`	`Xavalia`	`the one from blizzard is slow as hell`
`02:14.48`	`Xavalia`	`aka not going at all`
`02:15.24`	`\|Shadow\|`	`hmm`
`02:15.27`	`\|Shadow\|`	`thy does not liketh this`
`02:15.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`sad \|Shadow\|, very sad`
`02:15.37`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yea i know :)`
`02:15.42`	`\|Shadow\|`	`Reborn UI V4`
`02:15.49`	`\|Shadow\|`	`asks for my account name, realm name, and char name?`
`02:16.10`	`Thunder_Child`	`yes, you have to rewrite some of the folders`
`02:16.16`	`Thunder_Child`	`to hae the correct names`
`02:16.19`	`Thunder_Child`	`have*`
`02:16.21`	`\|Shadow\|`	`oh yea ofc`
`02:16.25`	`\|Shadow\|`	`ok fair enough :P`
`02:18.21`	`Antiarc`	`Did Hellfire just go down?`
`02:33.57`	`Xavalia`	`does anyone have a direct link to ptr patch download? blizz program is not working as usual`
`02:34.12`	`Xavalia`	`the enGB version that is`
`02:37.15`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Garoun\|Loupana (n=Garou@c-69-243-45-11.hsd1.va.comcast.net)`
`02:37.30`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge TC (i=user@cpe-76-169-211-70.socal.res.rr.com)`
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`02:41.00`	`Industrial`	`im here im her!`
`02:41.05`	`Industrial`	`Thunder_Child: \|Shadow\|`
`02:41.05`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`02:41.16`	`Industrial`	`yeah um where do you live?`
`02:41.20`	`\|Shadow\|`	`?`
`02:41.21`	`Xavalia`	`Industrial, send me the ptr patch.. I know you have it!!`
`02:41.27`	`\|Shadow\|`	`im in england`
`02:41.29`	`Industrial`	`i dont i play beta`
`02:41.34`	`Xavalia`	`>.<`
`02:41.38`	`Xavalia`	`lucksack`
`02:41.50`	`Industrial`	`well im really leveling my priest on live atm`
`02:41.53`	`Industrial`	`but meh`
`02:42.16`	`TC`	`yes/no?`
`02:42.20`	`\|Shadow\|`	`can anyone help me with reborn ui?`
`02:42.24`	`\|Shadow\|`	`the installer doesn't work :(`
`02:48.19`	`Shadowed`	`Anyone remember if Blizzard offically said rolling ignites was a bug that needed to be fixed?`
`02:49.01`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower\|ZZzz (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net)`
`02:50.06`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Zeryl (i=Zeryl@75-132-127-218.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)`
`02:50.30`	`Zeryl`	`I know it's a far shot, but does anyone know what font this is on the title of this item - http://65.98.12.202/mscreens/11056.jpg`
`02:52.16`	`TC`	`styleish, but not a very...easy to read one`
`02:53.20`	`\|Shadow\|`	`oO`
`02:53.24`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i like that font too`
`02:53.33`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i dunno what it is, if oyu find out Zeryl drop me a pm please :)`
`02:53.50`	`Zeryl`	`I will, i've seen it a couple times, but it's not in things like clearfont, or fontabulous (that I saw)`
`02:54.15`	`Kirkburn`	`The title or main text?`
`02:54.19`	`Zeryl`	`title`
`02:54.27`	`Kirkburn`	`God no, not in ClearFont ;)`
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`02:56.58`	`Shadowed`	`hmm, anyone have a link to the blue cache? :p`
`02:57.16`	`Industrial`	`Kirkburn: lol`
`02:57.17`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`02:57.18`	`Kirkburn`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/blue_results1.htm`
`02:58.00`	`Shadowed`	`thanks`
`02:58.29`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Cide (i=Cide@80-201.cust.umeaenergi.com)`
`03:00.35`	`\|Shadow\|`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/Coroder/WoWScrnShot_103006_214110.jpg how would one get these unitframes?`
`03:00.45`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i know there from Reborn UI, but there installers broken.`
`03:01.31`	`Zeryl`	`looks like a discord setup`
`03:01.37`	`Zeryl`	`you could take the discord files out, and enable what you want`
`03:01.43`	`Tem`	`you used 'there' in that sentence twice in different ways both time`
`03:01.43`	`Tem`	`s`
`03:01.47`	`Tem`	`both were wrong`
`03:02.09`	`TC`	`Stats are up for today http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowi-lounge.html.gz`
`03:02.51`	`\|Shadow\|`	`its not discord`
`03:02.57`	`\|Shadow\|`	`its Nurfed unitframes`
`03:03.02`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and i tried to take there stuff from it`
`03:03.05`	`\|Shadow\|`	`but its too complicated`
`03:03.09`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i dunno where it all goes`
`03:03.12`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:(`
`03:05.13`	`Industrial`	`is there a leveling guide on wowi?>`
`03:05.16`	`Industrial`	`horde.`
`03:06.00`	`Tem`	`probably not`
`03:06.01`	`cladhaire`	`cladhaire wrote the shortest lines, averaging 26.7 characters per line.`
`03:06.03`	`cladhaire`	`i always do that`
`03:06.12`	`Jaxine`	`yes`
`03:06.13`	`Jaxine`	`cladhaire`
`03:06.15`	`Jaxine`	`you do`
`03:06.17`	`Tem`	`I do it too`
`03:06.22`	`Industrial`	`you`
`03:06.23`	`Industrial`	`need`
`03:06.23`	`Industrial`	`to`
`03:06.24`	`Industrial`	`talk`
`03:06.25`	`Industrial`	`like`
`03:06.26`	`Tem`	`I can't ever get a whole thought out in one line`
`03:06.26`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`03:06.27`	`Industrial`	`this`
`03:06.30`	`\|Shadow\|`	`haha :P`
`03:06.32`	`cladhaire`	`Industrial: You got second after me =)`
`03:06.37`	`Industrial`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:06.39`	`\|Shadow\|`	`~beer`
`03:06.49`	`purl`	`ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer))`
`03:06.49`	`cladhaire`	`Industrial was tight-lipped, too, averaging 26.8 characters.`
`03:06.59`	`Industrial`	`Tem: yeah and if you do people answer to things too early`
`03:07.39`	`cladhaire`	`Miravlix has quite a potty mouth. 0.3% words were foul language.`
`03:07.39`	`cladhaire`	`Thunder_Child also makes sailors blush, 0.2% of the time.`
`03:07.47`	`Tem`	`Here's what I don't understand`
`03:08.07`	`TC`	`do you have any idea what makes sailors blush?`
`03:08.14`	`TC`	`naked fish....i just dont get it`
`03:08.17`	`Tem`	`"Channel average was 8.27 words per line."`
`03:08.53`	`cladhaire`	`why not tem?`
`03:08.53`	`Tem`	`so if the channel average is 8.27, how the hell is 28.whatever being "tight-lipped?"`
`03:09.06`	`Industrial`	`GORE VIEZE ETTERENDE ZURE SLOOT`
`03:09.09`	`Industrial`	`er i mean, back to wow`
`03:09.14`	`cladhaire`	`characters`
`03:09.16`	`cladhaire`	`versus words`
`03:09.27`	`cladhaire`	`words are bigger than characters.`
`03:09.34`	`cladhaire`	`imo`
`03:09.48`	`Tem`	`oh`
`03:09.50`	`Tem`	`that's why`
`03:09.56`	`Tem`	`I didn't notice the unit`
`03:11.45`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.nationlocation.com/AIRMONKEY/AirMonkey.html`
`03:11.48`	`cladhaire`	`btw`
`03:11.50`	`cladhaire`	`ftw =)`
`03:17.29`	`SP\|Sorren`	`anyone around to help me with a macro?`
`03:18.14`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`this bug SUCKS`
`03:18.29`	`SP\|Sorren`	`./use [pet,modifier:ctrl,button:2,target=pet] Heavy Runecloth Bandage; [button:2,target=player] Heavy Runecloth Bandage; Heavy Runecloth Bandage <--anyone know why that hates me?`
`03:18.58`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I don't think modifier is working correctly yet`
`03:19.26`	`SP\|Sorren`	`ah`
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`03:25.23`	`Tem`	`Modifier is working fine`
`03:25.40`	`Tem`	`SP\|Sorren, there is a bug in the parsing code atm`
`03:26.29`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Zeryl (i=Zeryl@75-132-127-218.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)`
`03:26.45`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I'm guessing modifier doesn't work with clicking?`
`03:26.50`	`Tem`	`no`
`03:26.51`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`only keypress`
`03:26.57`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`bah :P`
`03:27.00`	`Tem`	`it should work all the time`
`03:27.09`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`most definately does not for me :(`
`03:27.14`	`Tem`	`the 'no' was "your guess is wrong"`
`03:27.21`	`Tem`	`Garoun\|Loupana, post your macro`
`03:27.46`	`Tem`	`SP\|Sorren, try this: /use [pet, ,modifier:ctrl,button:2,target=pet] Heavy Runecloth Bandage; [button:2,target=player] Heavy Runecloth Bandage; Heavy Runecloth Bandage`
`03:27.58`	`Tem`	`SP\|Sorren, Just a guess, the error you are getting is "Unknown option: p"?`
`03:28.00`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`let me put it back on`
`03:28.22`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`needed to exit the ramparts first :)`
`03:30.01`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`./cast [modifier:shift]Regrowth;Healing Touch`
`03:30.07`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`Healing touch goes fine`
`03:30.21`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`hold shift and it does nothing not even an error`
`03:31.25`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`wsa the same with or without any addons loaded`
`03:32.38`	`Tem`	`hmm, not working for me either`
`03:33.08`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I also tried adding button:1 to it, and no go there either`
`03:34.23`	`cladhaire`	`ding 55`
`03:35.46`	`Tem`	`Garoun\|Loupana, it's some kind of problem with IsShiftKeyDown`
`03:35.59`	`Tem`	`it's an unrelated bug, imo`
`03:36.34`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`want to see a worse one :)`
`03:36.37`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`change shift to ctrl`
`03:36.43`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`and hit it, then check your chat log`
`03:36.57`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`it'll pop up a nice error in line 921 of chatframe.lua`
`03:37.34`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`oh wait`
`03:37.36`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`alt works`
`03:37.40`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`but shift and ctrl don't`
`03:40.00`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`gonna disable everything so I can post the error message to slouken since /bug doesn't work`
`03:40.17`	`Industrial`	`why not just install bugsack`
`03:40.21`	`Industrial`	`and copy the error`
`03:40.22`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`03:40.38`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`because it currently has trinity included :)`
`03:40.45`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`and I want a true error message`
`03:51.00`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`the interesting thing about it, if you hit control it does nothing withotu an error`
`03:51.12`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`but if you don't hold it down the error pops up`
`03:57.05`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, that game is just making me angry`
`03:59.16`	`Tem`	`what's the error`
`03:59.31`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I posted it up on the forum`
`04:00.12`	`Tem`	`becayse ctrl works for me (tm)`
`04:00.15`	`Tem`	`bacuse*`
`04:00.17`	`Tem`	`bah`
`04:00.20`	`Tem`	`because*`
`04:00.24`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`wierd`
`04:00.54`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I'll give you the link to the thread, try my tests with a warlock if you don't mind :) I used a lvl 1 BE lock`
`04:01.16`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47012319&sid=1`
`04:01.35`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`went through all the interations and the only one that worked was alt`
`04:03.01`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`ok, he ran into the problem`
`04:03.24`	`MentalPower`	`refresh`
`04:03.29`	`MentalPower`	`slouken is fast :)`
`04:03.32`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`yeah he is`
`04:03.44`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I forgot to mention tbc client :)`
`04:03.51`	`Tem`	`oh LOL`
`04:03.52`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`but I'm assuming he meant it just hasn't been pushed out yet`
`04:03.53`	`Tem`	`that's my fault`
`04:04.32`	`Tem`	`no idea what's wrong with shift though`
`04:04.48`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`so that means they must hav esnuck a patch onto the ptr, but not TBC yet`
`04:06.06`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`now I just have to visit the bug forum and post about my druid not being able to target a mob without randomly drawing aggro :(`
`04:06.31`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I accidently killed us in Ramparts because the first boss aggroed out of clip range when I did a shift to bear with him targeted :/`
`04:06.43`	`Tem`	`how do you figure that?`
`04:06.53`	`Saeris`	`Furor`
`04:07.02`	`Saeris`	`It counts as an aggressive action`
`04:07.04`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I figured it's a talent`
`04:07.12`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`actually it's worse then that Sae`
`04:07.23`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I had a mob targeted, cast regrowth on myself and it aggroed :/`
`04:07.37`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I even have neutral con mobs randomly attacking me for no reason`
`04:08.44`	`MentalPower`	`The WoW forums don't have [url] tags do they?`
`04:08.58`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`it adds the url by default`
`04:09.03`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`just put the full url in`
`04:09.31`	`MentalPower`	`http:// and all right?`
`04:09.35`	`Tem`	`nod`
`04:14.49`	`MentalPower`	`Garoun\|Loupana: I like your sig, did that actually happen?`
`04:18.36`	`Jaxine`	`heh, the PTR says 'welcome to the burning crusade closed beta test'`
`04:24.48`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`yes`
`04:25.38`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`was a bunch of 55's doing a 10man lbrs :P and I offered to tank (considering I've MT about half of ZG)`
`04:29.34`	`Tem`	`ok, so this rogue crits ambush for 3k`
`04:29.40`	`Tem`	`that's rediculous`
`04:29.47`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`hehe`
`04:31.09`	`Tem`	`I hope he needs retarded gear to do that`
`04:31.40`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`depends what he's wearing, if it's on the ptr.. sounds like everything just hit right for him`
`04:31.57`	`Tem`	`beta`
`04:32.04`	`Tem`	`not sure what level he was`
`04:32.25`	`Tem`	`also, if that were on the ptr, I'd cry nerf`
`04:32.30`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`:P`
`04:32.35`	`Tem`	`numbers like that shouldn't be possible at level 60`
`04:32.51`	`Tem`	`not for an instant attack that's alsmost garanteed to crit`
`04:32.59`	`Jaxine`	`Tem, i've gotten a 1750 hammer of wrath and a 1740 crusader strike`
`04:33.11`	`Tem`	`lol @ pallies who think they are dps`
`04:33.22`	`Jaxine`	`no, really`
`04:33.29`	`Jaxine`	`sustainable 300+ vs level 60 elites`
`04:33.36`	`Jaxine`	`probably more if undead`
`04:33.51`	`Tem`	`...`
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`04:35.07`	`Jaxine`	`tem, you find that hard to believe?`
`04:35.16`	`Tem`	`no, I think it's cute`
`04:35.53`	`Tem`	`I'm pretty sure a hunter can top that without spending mana`
`04:36.21`	`Tem`	`and I'd bet a dps warrior would break that with just auto-attacks`
`04:36.53`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`just wait till you see the buildup on their seals... it isnt' pretty TEm`
`04:37.10`	`Tem`	`I've seen it`
`04:37.28`	`Jaxine`	`seal of the crusader is too big`
`04:38.20`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`BE paly will be silly if the mana tap scales properly`
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`04:46.37`	`Kaso`	`arg, they nerfed the thrallmar/honor hold exhalted weapon`
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`04:52.17`	`Tem`	`Guillotine, !`
`04:52.32`	`Guillotine`	`lol`
`04:52.36`	`Guillotine`	`you rejoining the queue?`
`04:52.54`	`Tem`	`hell yes`
`04:52.57`	`Tem`	`I <3 BGs`
`04:53.00`	`Guillotine`	`see you next game then :D`
`04:53.36`	`Tem`	`I'm not a fan of hunters and warlocks being so rediculously overpowered, but everyone else is fun to fight`
`04:53.46`	`Tem`	`even shamans lately`
`04:54.00`	`Tem`	`with DB, I think I actually have a fighting chance in a 1v1 vs a shaman`
`04:54.16`	`Guillotine`	`ya, I'm loving the balance`
`04:54.21`	`Tem`	`I could really do without this annoying BG sound every 5 seconds though`
`04:54.26`	`Guillotine`	`no kidding :/`
`04:55.11`	`Guillotine`	`i do with there was a 1v1 arena though. just for practice`
`04:55.20`	`Guillotine`	`though its probably not there b/c it would lead to lots of nerf cries`
`04:55.53`	`Tem`	`it's not there because the game isn't balanced around 1v1`
`04:56.10`	`Tem`	`in 1v1, you're totally boned if you're against your bane class`
`04:56.54`	`zespri`	`anyone here knows what DefendYourself addon did?`
`04:57.08`	`Guillotine`	`automatically started auto attack when you were attacked`
`04:57.10`	`Industrial`	`put on meelee mode`
`04:57.19`	`zespri`	`is this still possible in beta?`
`04:57.26`	`Industrial`	`probably`
`04:57.29`	`Industrial`	`its not a spell`
`04:57.38`	`Industrial`	`AttackTarget()`
`04:57.41`	`cladhaire`	`i dont think its possible.`
`04:57.44`	`Jaxine`	`or /startattack`
`04:57.45`	`cladhaire`	`you'd need a button`
`04:57.48`	`cladhaire`	`that's what i suspect`
`04:57.50`	`Industrial`	`hm`
`04:58.05`	`zespri`	`yeah I fear that too`
`04:58.57`	`zespri`	`is autoattack that bad?`
`04:59.07`	`zespri`	`I mean from blizz point of view?`
`04:59.16`	`cladhaire`	`probabloy.`
`04:59.20`	`cladhaire`	`its the same as any other spell`
`04:59.24`	`cladhaire`	`and is probably treated as such`
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`05:07.11`	`Guillotine`	`ahh, I remember DefendYourself + AutoTravel`
`05:07.17`	`Guillotine`	`great times`
`05:16.08`	`tyroney`	`Any folks familiar with secure buttons and states handy? (and feeling slightly generous)`
`05:17.04`	`Antiarc`	`tyroney: I've kinda done some of it, but not a lot.`
`05:17.07`	`cladhaire`	`depends.. who's asking?`
`05:18.10`	`tyroney`	`I can't guarentee that I'm somebody, but I have most of the work done, I've just been putting off implementation and trial-and-error for the past few weeks.`
`05:18.19`	`tyroney`	`Want to take an all-but worked out 2.0 mod, make it work, and make my day? It's just a single secure action button with a header that's a hold-to-flip actionbar page changer.`
`05:18.53`	`tyroney`	`I dropped all the details on a related thread in the forums: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47202496&sid=1`
`05:19.17`	`tyroney`	`Or just let it slide and I'll get it dealt with sometime in the next coupla months.`
`05:20.06`	`cladhaire`	`well i'm not sure how to do it`
`05:20.12`	`cladhaire`	`on press/release`
`05:20.26`	`cladhaire`	`i know how to make it work with a single press toggle, but that doesn' help here.`
`05:22.19`	`tyroney`	`I have all the parts, so I might just break down, pound it out, and see how much hair I have to pull.`
`05:22.26`	`Jaxine`	`haha, my character is screwed up on the PTR`
`05:22.40`	`Jaxine`	`it's supposed to be on the boat but it's on a gryphon`
`05:22.52`	`Jaxine`	`and it's flying over dun morogh instead of baradin bay`
`05:23.09`	`Tem`	`damn, I rocked the charts that game`
`05:23.45`	`tyroney`	`Here's a simple question you can probably answer: what's a header? A frame, or is there a global one in lua, so should I just go find a mod someplace that uses a header and do some old-fashioned research?`
`05:24.10`	`cladhaire`	`no, its a frame that you create that handles states.`
`05:24.33`	`cladhaire`	`but i do not believe what your'e asking for can currently be done.`
`05:24.47`	`cladhaire`	`since it amounts to two protection actions in a single keypress`
`05:25.05`	`cladhaire`	`even with a state header, but i hope i'm okay`
`05:25.07`	`tyroney`	`Did you check that thread? I had a conversation with Iriel about a month ago, so there's a good chance it'll be doable.`
`05:25.22`	`cladhaire`	`then iriel would understand it.`
`05:25.27`	`cladhaire`	`the state headers are a mystery to most of us`
`05:25.30`	`tyroney`	`At least that's what he was saying at that point in time.`
`05:25.32`	`cladhaire`	`there are a few who understand it.`
`05:25.35`	`tyroney`	`Yeah, no joke there.`
`05:26.26`	`cladhaire`	`Qoh`
`05:26.30`	`cladhaire`	`it should be straightforward`
`05:26.53`	`tyroney`	`From what little I grok so far, there's a good deal of potential for all sorts of stuff. I'm just waiting for my mind to get melted when someone makes a mod that really exploits them to the max in a dynamically (pretty interface) changable way.`
`05:27.08`	`cladhaire`	`most of them have been played with`
`05:27.21`	`cladhaire`	`in this case, you use SecureAchorUpDown and SecureActionButtonTemplate`
`05:27.32`	`cladhaire`	`the first two lines set up virtual button mappings, and the second two just map the childstates.`
`05:27.56`	`cladhaire`	`the two action-mup and action-mdn lines become "type", "actionbar"`
`05:28.03`	`tyroney`	`Right, and the next chunk changes to reflect the ability to just flip bars, as per the code below.`
`05:28.05`	`cladhaire`	`which now has the ability to toggle between two pages`
`05:28.06`	`tyroney`	`what you said.`
`05:28.27`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`05:28.34`	`cladhaire`	`thats easy.. id o that in clique righ tnow`
`05:29.18`	`tyroney`	`One last ignorant question for now: does the header need to inherit anything special to be a header?`
`05:29.48`	`Kirkburn`	`I just noticed how they dealt with the two Hemet Nesingwarys - one in StV and one in Nagrand`
`05:30.00`	`Kirkburn`	`StV Hemet has now become Hemet Junior :)`
`05:30.44`	`cladhaire`	`try this, PlayerFrame:SetAttribute("shift-type1", "actionbar") PlayerFrame:SetAttribute("shift-action1", "1,4")`
`05:30.56`	`cladhaire`	`shift clicking your playerframe will toggle between pages 1 and 4`
`05:31.18`	`cladhaire`	`tyroney: Yes, SecureAnchorUpDownTemplate`
`05:31.34`	`cladhaire`	`thats for your driver, you may need a state header as well`
`05:31.38`	`cladhaire`	`which is just inheriting another secure template.`
`05:31.48`	`cladhaire`	`SecureTemplates.lua should have a basic example of each`
`05:31.56`	`tyroney`	`The state header is what I'm asking about. I'll go do some reading then.`
`05:32.35`	`cladhaire`	`its all in that collection of files, SecureTempaltes, SecureStateHeader, etc.`
`05:33.49`	`tyroney`	`oh, duh. SecureStateHeaderTemplate . Gee, I could have read that weeks ago.`
`05:34.08`	`tyroney`	`Well, here goes nothing.`
`05:38.57`	`Guillotine`	`ROFL. in eye of the storm, I was about to kill this warrior when a priest came along and healed him. I jumped off the edge and they both jumped with me o.O`
`05:39.10`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`05:40.10`	`Cairenn`	`okay, time for another wacky-thread-link request`
`05:40.13`	`Shadowed`	`haha`
`05:40.15`	`Shadowed`	`nice Guillotine`
`05:40.25`	`Tem`	`cladhaire, I read "it's all in that collection of files, SecureTemplates" as "it's all in that collection of lies, SecureTemplates"`
`05:40.33`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
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`05:50.19`	`tyroney`	`Ack. I'm scared. I don't want my secure button to fail, so I don't want to fire up the beta. Wish me luck.`
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`05:53.09`	`kaiden`	`YAY! Reinstalled with Vista! rawr!`
`05:53.19`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`how is vista?`
`05:53.31`	`kaiden`	`well so far it's quite nice`
`05:53.43`	`kaiden`	`i'll let you know more after i get all my drivers installed and get into wow`
`05:54.03`	`kaiden`	`downloading office 2007 right now, the bit i did use it i loved it alot`
`05:54.07`	`kaiden`	`alot better than office 2003`
`05:54.48`	`Mike-N-Go_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:54.57`	`kaiden`	`Mike-N-Go_, it's already been killed`
`05:55.08`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Downloading? HAXXOR!`
`05:55.15`	`Mike-N-Go_`	`member:identifier:mike-n-go_ is my name, currently.`
`05:55.35`	`kaiden`	`Mike-N-Go, because you have to change your nick`
`05:55.44`	`kaiden`	`Neuro_Medivh, i'm an msdn subscriber :) so that's not HAXXOR ;)`
`05:55.49`	`Mike-N-Go_`	`What is the command?`
`05:55.59`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`,/nick Mike-N-Go`
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`06:03.43`	`tyroney`	`Ok, one typo. Time for moment of truth #2`
`06:04.58`	`MentalPower`	`how do you create bullets in the blizz forums?`
`06:06.06`	`Cairenn`	`easy, create them in a text editor then copy & paste`
`06:06.12`	`Cairenn`	`or else just use *`
`06:08.07`	`MentalPower`	`and here I was trying to use the [li][/li] tags`
`06:08.12`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`that's what I used`
`06:08.27`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`in my Macro Guide post`
`06:08.39`	`tyroney`	`MentalPower: did you wrap those in [ul]?`
`06:08.55`	`MentalPower`	`no`
`06:09.02`	`tyroney`	`in case it helps.`
`06:09.34`	`MentalPower`	`so its [ul][li]Item #1[/li][li]Item #2[/li][/ul] ?`
`06:10.14`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yeah, if you want them indented`
`06:10.40`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`mine is just [li] item 1 [/li] [li] item 2 [/li]`
`06:13.00`	`MentalPower`	`thanks guys`
`06:13.24`	`tyroney`	`hmm. does a frame need dimensions or something else to receive "clicks" ? (fired via SetBindingClick() )`
`06:13.55`	`Mike-N-Go`	`•`
`06:14.04`	`Mike-N-Go`	`opt+8 on mac :)`
`06:14.07`	`Mike-N-Go`	`•••••`
`06:14.14`	`MentalPower`	`I think they once did, however I don't think they should now.`
`06:14.48`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Ω˚œU€™`
`06:14.49`	`tyroney`	`Hmm. Must be time to pastey. Or isn't there some new verbose error mode for debugging states and headers and secure junk?`
`06:15.10`	`Tem`	`tyroney, frames must have a rect to recieve clicks`
`06:15.21`	`Tem`	`(that includes simulated clicks from SetBindingClick)`
`06:15.24`	`tyroney`	`I'll go give it one, then. Thanks.`
`06:22.23`	`Guillotine`	`anybody know any type of formula for the distance between two dates? for example, Jan 1, 2007 to February 27, 2008?`
`06:23.06`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`365+31+27?`
`06:23.52`	`TC`	`is not really a formula`
`06:24.31`	`Guillotine`	`Neuro: and what about leap years?`
`06:24.48`	`Kirkburn`	`No simple formula, there be`
`06:24.48`	`Guillotine`	`I could obviously write one up, but if theres a more simple formula, that would make it much easier`
`06:25.02`	`Guillotine`	`alright, so I'll just do it more complicated`
`06:25.07`	`Guillotine`	`pooey`
`06:25.11`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`No, there's not, not in that format`
`06:25.35`	`Kirkburn`	`If would have to be a formula with 'if's`
`06:25.47`	`Kirkburn`	`So, really, a program`
`06:25.48`	`Kirkburn`	`:)`
`06:25.51`	`Guillotine`	`yup`
`06:26.10`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I know the formula for leap years at least`
`06:27.29`	`Guillotine`	`every 4 years, not divisble by 100 unless their divisble by 400 as well`
`06:27.38`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yep`
`06:28.18`	`Tem\|Food`	`they're*`
`06:28.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Damn you zelazny!`
`06:28.34`	`Tem\|Food`	`?`
`06:29.16`	`Guillotine`	`I'm thinking the easiest way would be count back to January 1st, store that in a variable, go to the year you're looking for, get number of days into the year, add your first thing, then after all that add in stuff for leap years`
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`06:30.09`	`MentalPower`	`NETSPLIT!`
`06:30.09`	`Antiarc`	`You could just make it 365.25 days per year and take the math.floor() of your result.`
`06:30.21`	`Antiarc`	`Assuming you start on a leap year`
`06:34.54`	`tyroney`	`Isn't there a built-in thing that'll give you the diff on two dates, or am I just thinking of excel?`
`06:35.45`	`Esamynn`	`you could always translate to seconds and then subtract ;)`
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`06:39.18`	`Guillotine`	`hmm. is there even a way to get the date?`
`06:40.13`	`Esamynn`	`the current date?`
`06:40.17`	`Esamynn`	`yes`
`06:40.58`	`Guillotine`	`whats the function? I can't find it on wowwiki :/`
`06:41.33`	`Esamynn`	`date()`
`06:42.08`	`Esamynn`	`http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-os.date`
`06:42.59`	`Guillotine`	`ah, WoW allows that?`
`06:43.24`	`Guillotine`	`I know WoW restricts lots of the os.`
`06:43.37`	`Esamynn`	`there is no os object`
`06:43.43`	`Esamynn`	`but date is available`
`06:43.44`	`Esamynn`	`as a global`
`06:43.51`	`Mike-N-Go`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(date("%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S"))`
`06:43.55`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Works too`
`06:45.50`	`Guillotine`	`hmm. WoW's date works slightly differently though. doesn't give the day of the year`
`06:46.10`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Via of http://www.wowwiki.com/API_date :P`
`06:46.23`	`Guillotine`	`nm, ignore me`
`06:46.47`	`Mike-N-Go`	`What, that is what I have.`
`06:48.08`	`Mike-N-Go`	`11/17/06 22:43:43`
`06:48.16`	`Mike-N-Go`	`That is my output for that.`
`06:48.48`	`tyroney`	`Has anyone here played with SecureAnchorUpDownTemplate ?`
`06:50.25`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Or DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(date("%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Y"))`
`06:50.26`	`Mike-N-Go`	`For us mac heads`
`06:51.37`	`pastamancer`	`Guillotine: to do date diffs, you can convert from gregorian to julian calendars, subtract the days and convert back`
`06:52.01`	`Guillotine`	`hmm. anyone know if its possible to put a date into the time variable of date()?`
`06:52.03`	`Esamynn`	`I perfer the convert to seconds since the epochmethod :P`
`06:52.23`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Esamynn: Wha...`
`06:52.25`	`pastamancer`	`yeah, seconds since the epoch is handy if you're not dealing with large differences`
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`06:52.28`	`Guillotine`	`Esamynn: I'll do that too`
`06:52.37`	`Guillotine`	`what I'm making is the most awesome addon ever`
`06:52.42`	`MentalPower`	`doesn't WoW-2.0 enable difftime?`
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`06:52.51`	`Esamynn`	`nope`
`06:52.56`	`Esamynn`	`why would it bother?`
`06:53.00`	`Esamynn`	`you can just subtract`
`06:53.20`	`MentalPower`	`ah, true, nm me`
`06:53.25`	`MentalPower`	`anywho gnight guys`
`06:53.25`	`Guillotine`	`difftime is enabled`
`06:53.31`	`Esamynn`	`is it?`
`06:53.38`	`End`	`yup`
`06:53.38`	`Guillotine`	`I'm getting an answer when doing difftime("1","2")`
`06:53.57`	`Esamynn`	`oh, I tried difftime on the live client and got nothing`
`06:54.15`	`End`	`it's a 2.0 thing`
`06:54.29`	`End`	`I even vaguely remember slouken posting in the changes thread`
`06:54.31`	`Esamynn`	`as far as passing a string to date() I don't know, if not, you can pass a table to time to get seconds out`
`06:55.03`	`MentalPower\|ZZzz`	`if you pass "*t" to date() it returns a table instead of a string`
`06:55.07`	`Guillotine`	`hmm. difftime doesn't help much. can only put in numbers. its exactly arg2-arg1`
`06:55.24`	`Guillotine`	`MentalPower: got that`
`06:55.28`	`Esamynn`	`as I said, for us, there is no point to difftime`
`06:55.33`	`Guillotine`	`right`
`06:55.44`	`tyroney`	`Sweet! almost done!`
`06:55.58`	`MentalPower\|ZZzz`	`night!`
`06:56.42`	`Esamynn`	`night MentalPower\|ZZzz`
`06:58.48`	`tyroney`	`Woo. hold a button to toggle actionbar in 2.0! Now I just need to figure out why SetBindingClick() isn't working unless I type it manually.`
`06:59.39`	`End`	`oh jeez`
`06:59.53`	`End`	`I found out what the voidwalker collapse does`
`07:00.02`	`End`	`it hurts me`
`07:00.05`	`End`	`that's what`
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`07:03.11`	`sn0n`	`hrmmmm`
`07:03.13`	`sn0n`	`hieee`
`07:04.35`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Hola sn0n!`
`07:06.48`	`zespri`	`what about krka 's maplibrary, does it still work in beta?`
`07:07.23`	`sn0n`	`hrmmm`
`07:07.29`	`sn0n`	`is there any DPS Timers ?`
`07:07.41`	`sn0n`	`something that just counts my dps for x minutes`
`07:07.47`	`sn0n`	`with a 'start' button`
`07:07.58`	`sn0n`	`i wanna compare two gear builds`
`07:07.59`	`sn0n`	`:-D`
`07:08.33`	`sn0n`	`err.. kinda.. i wanna see whats better +20 attack power or +5 Agi (when im a rogue)`
`07:08.35`	`sn0n`	`things like that`
`07:12.26`	`sn0n`	`hrmmm.. looking at it, just the numbers.. looks around the same.. :: sigh ::`
`07:12.48`	`Esamynn`	`zespri: I think krka_ decided to not update MapLibrary when he heard I was working on a new Library that could easily be made to do similar things`
`07:12.59`	`Esamynn`	`I'm not 100`
`07:13.02`	`Esamynn`	`% sure though`
`07:17.17`	`Guillotine`	`g2g all, gn :)`
`07:17.42`	`Guillotine`	`sn0n: you could try a damage meter like SW_Stats`
`07:17.45`	`Guillotine`	`and use a stopwatch`
`07:19.12`	`tyroney`	`If anyone wants it: hold button to flip actionbar code here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47202496&postId=471493315&sid=1#7`
`07:31.13`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Does anyone know the name of this mod: It counts how long or when your friends are online. Anyone??`
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`08:15.20`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`08:15.25`	`Kirkburn`	`lol "Targeting mobs in eastern plagueland initates combat and has them charge you. "`
`08:15.33`	`Kirkburn`	`Ciao ckknight`
`08:16.50`	`TC`	`nice Kirkburn`
`08:17.26`	`TC`	`at last in this game (unlike some others) combat doesnt strat till the effect completes`
`08:17.40`	`TC`	`s/last/least/`
`08:17.53`	`TC`	`start*`
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`09:19.26`	`zespri`	`is there anybody on hellfire alliance who can invite?`
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`09:19.27`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`nah, hd is about 6 months old`
`09:19.27`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I did something to it... comp was running slower than dogshit, wouldn't load up ie or ff. Had to chkdsk it, found a corrupted index on the swap file, cleared it right up`
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`09:24.13`	`Kirkburn`	`Miravlix, you were talking about the blood elf bandit mask?`
`09:24.21`	`Kirkburn`	`(I got DCed)`
`09:24.22`	`Miravlix`	`yes`
`09:24.50`	`Kirkburn`	`The only screenshot I see is that it's an unfinished cube :P`
`09:25.39`	`Miravlix`	`Hmm?`
`09:28.14`	`Kirkburn`	`http://flickr.com/photos/afkgamer/277259497/`
`09:28.56`	`Miravlix`	`haha`
`09:29.04`	`Miravlix`	`Okay let me take a screenie`
`09:29.07`	`Miravlix`	`It looks good`
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`09:31.40`	`Kirkburn`	`Please :)`
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`09:40.48`	`Miravlix`	`http://www.lix-world.net/~dragon/masked2.jpg`
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`09:52.49`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`sigh... I hate compilations`
`09:52.56`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`especially when I only want one mod`
`10:02.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Soooo, anyone been working on this? http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acemosdp3.jpg`
`10:02.48`	`Teomyr`	`lol`
`10:03.28`	`Kirkburn`	`Miravlix, that's pretty cool :)`
`10:03.31`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`10:04.30`	`Kirkburn`	`See, it can't possibly go down to 0 on the coolness scale :P`
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`11:37.17`	`krka_`	`Esamynn\|afk and zespri: correct, i have stopped development of MapLibrary`
`12:17.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`uh`
`12:17.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`cardplace got domain squatted?`
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`13:59.18`	`cladhaire`	`shouldn't your debuffs be cleared when you leave a battleground/arena?`
`13:59.19`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`13:59.26`	`cladhaire`	`its fun dying outside the bg's from those debugs =/`
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`14:31.54`	`Jaxine`	`'cardplace.com expired on 11/12/2006 and is pending renewal or deletion.'`
`14:31.55`	`Jaxine`	`:(`
`14:32.13`	`Jaxine`	`anyone have the IP address?`
`14:33.22`	`Jaxine`	`for blue.cardplace.com specifically`
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`14:44.43`	`Thardal`	`does anyone know if the date() format is different depending on whether you use the german, french or english version?`
`14:47.21`	`wereHamster`	`Jaxine, google cache?`
`14:48.21`	`Mery`	`I think date is nothing else than the lua function os.date http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-os.date`
`14:50.38`	`Jaxine`	`wereHamster, doesn't show the IP`
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`14:59.50`	`wereHamster`	`the blizzard account managemtn page is lame.. I chaged my PW three days ago, but the old one is still active on teh live(!) servers`
`15:00.55`	`wereHamster`	`.. but I had to log in with the new one to the account management page`
`15:02.08`	`wereHamster`	`so they have at least two different places where they save our passwords`
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`15:05.45`	`Jaxine`	`wereHamster, most likely they are using some type of LDAP/RADIUS authentication system and it hasn't propagated yet`
`15:07.27`	`Jaxine`	`well maybe not 'most likely', but they are likely using some decentralized system`
`15:07.38`	`Jaxine`	`with master/slave stuff.. like google might do`
`15:14.05`	`Jaxine`	`would be interesting if you could include a macro in a /castsequence`
`15:14.22`	`Jaxine`	`as one of the sequence elements`
`15:18.17`	`wereHamster`	`'... and it hasn't propagated yet`
`15:18.57`	`wereHamster`	`I rather think I hit a bug.. because I just changed the PW and it was instantly changed for the live servers, too`
`15:21.52`	`Miravlix`	`Wow, they sure did a big job on the Blood Elf home area, Dranie got nothing compared to it`
`15:22.03`	`tyroney`	`Talking about the beta servers? I'll go find a link, but they don't update instantly on passwords.`
`15:24.29`	`Industrial`	`Miravlix: I agree, but you have to consider the story`
`15:24.52`	`Industrial`	`Miravlix: the high sleves were a big civilisation with lots of trees buildings etcetc`
`15:25.07`	`Industrial`	`Miravlix: the draenei just crashed in the middle of nowhere with a spaceship`
`15:25.41`	`Industrial`	`and apparently their spaceship functions as a building upside down >:P`
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`15:27.03`	`tyroney`	`the exodar is upside down?`
`15:27.36`	`Miravlix`	`naah`
`15:33.01`	`tyroney`	`found the link for the beta password delay: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100030&sid=1&pageNo=1#2`
`15:35.22`	`Thardal`	`does anyone know if the date() format is different depending on whether you use the german, french or english version?`
`15:36.45`	`wereHamster`	`up to a week? wasn't here someone who said his PW hsn't been changed for two weeks?`
`15:38.52`	`foxlit`	`Thardal: post yours`
`15:39.26`	`foxlit`	`Comes up as 11/18/06 16:38:53 on enGB, it doesn't look like it's being taken from the OS locale settings.`
`15:40.17`	`Thardal`	`in have that too but also enGB`
`15:41.28`	`Mery`	`same on a german winxp with a enUS wow`
`15:44.07`	`Thardal`	`i'm pretty screwed i've been storing dates in my addon for months now without knowing that it might be implementation specific :(`
`15:44.31`	`Thardal`	`curse lua >:(`
`15:45.17`	`tyroney`	`Can't you specify the format that date() returns manually?`
`15:45.39`	`foxlit`	`decimals in chat messages are evil too`
`15:45.41`	`Kaso`	`look up os.date() thats what dtae() is`
`15:47.00`	`Mery`	`(scroll back an hour I posted a link to os.date in the lua manual)`
`15:47.01`	`Thardal`	`the lua manual is horrible for that, it only makes allusions but gives no definite answers`
`15:47.11`	`Mery`	`ok well`
`15:48.31`	`Thardal`	`it seems that os.date() itself is only an alias for strftime()`
`15:48.56`	`Thardal`	`and good luck finding a standard anywhere in C`
`15:49.03`	`Mery`	`http://www.thinkage.ca/english/gcos/expl/c/lib/strfti.html`
`15:49.04`	`Teomyr`	`date() on a deDE client returns the same format as in enGB`
`15:49.12`	`Thardal`	`pretty much every implementer does whatever they feel like when building a C library`
`15:49.22`	`Thardal`	`cool thanks teomyr`
`15:49.47`	`tyroney`	`here's a link from wowwiki, whose contents worked fine for me: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xsh/strftime.html`
`15:49.57`	`tyroney`	`Oh, or use that one from Mery`
`15:50.20`	`Thardal`	`the problem is`
`15:50.21`	`Thardal`	`%c`
`15:50.21`	`Thardal`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:50.32`	`Thardal`	`which is wide open to interpretation`
`15:51.01`	`Thardal`	`but teomyr helped, now i know that language doesnt matter, it's only different between PC and Mac`
`15:51.31`	`foxlit`	`ELP is a blessing.`
`15:52.54`	`Teomyr`	`same for frFR, just tested :D`
`15:53.17`	`Teomyr`	`both clients on a german winxp`
`15:53.36`	`Thardal`	`thanks`
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`15:58.13`	`wereHamster`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/2522 - os.date()`
`15:58.28`	`wereHamster`	`.. in 5.1.1`
`15:59.06`	`tyroney`	`Hmm. My secure button isn't working if I'm holding down modifier keys, even though I've used "*action-mything"`
`15:59.39`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`read my post on the ui forum`
`15:59.50`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`if you're doing [modifier] that is`
`16:00.40`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`for [modifier] alt works right now on beta, but not ctrl or shift`
`16:01.27`	`tyroney`	`not modifier. My binding stops working if you happen to be holding ctrl, alt, or shift.`
`16:02.35`	`tyroney`	`I posted my details on the forums as well. I can self cast with it if I hit my key first, (then alt,) but if alt is down first, it stops working.`
`16:03.25`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`ah ok, I see what you mean`
`16:05.46`	`Mikma`	`anyone knows what's the event that gets fired when druid/warrior learns a new shape/stance?`
`16:07.15`	`tyroney`	`Hmm. Learns a new? I assume it would be whatever fires when you change an actionbar button, but that's just off the top of my head. (in other words, I can't think of an individual more unique event that might fire)`
`16:07.20`	`Miravlix`	`Nothing special about that`
`16:07.25`	`Miravlix`	`It's like any other action`
`16:07.43`	`Miravlix`	`Your thinking of the special even when we change/shift I think`
`16:08.40`	`wereHamster`	`doesn't he mean when you learn the spell for a new shapeshift form?`
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`16:09.34`	`foxlit`	`LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB would probably trigger`
`16:09.58`	`foxlit`	`But that's the generic spellbook update`
`16:10.30`	`Mikma`	`5well, CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED did the trick`
`16:10.57`	`Miravlix`	`CPC trigers on leveling`
`16:11.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`grarrrgh`
`16:11.25`	`Mikma`	`and it tiggers when you get a new shape/stance too`
`16:11.31`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`ptrs still messed up :[`
`16:11.44`	`Miravlix`	`I don't see why it would`
`16:11.52`	`Miravlix`	`You don't gain or loss points`
`16:11.56`	`Miravlix`	`Point = talent points`
`16:12.17`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`<Mikma> and it tiggers`
`16:12.22`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`this made me laugh for some reason`
`16:12.43`	`tyroney`	`fun fun fun fun fun!`
`16:13.01`	`tyroney`	`and perhaps the most wonderful thing about triggers...`
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`16:17.35`	`Mikma`	`oh well, LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB worked too`
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`16:18.32`	`Mikma`	`but LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB doesn't work if you lose that stance`
`16:19.01`	`foxlit`	`That happens?`
`16:19.47`	`Mikma`	`(unlearn talents)`
`16:20.00`	`Mikma`	`i like tbc beta, unlearn is 1c all the time :D`
`16:21.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`dear god they need to open another ptr or two, one's not enough for crap :/`
`16:21.27`	`foxlit`	`UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS`
`16:21.41`	`wereHamster`	`with all the addon breakage, much more users will want to test their UI on the PTRs`
`16:21.55`	`Mikma`	`foxlit: but i'm not sure does that work with warriors too when they learn new stances`
`16:21.58`	`foxlit`	`Not that they can do much about it`
`16:22.12`	`foxlit`	`"Fired when the player changes his shape ", meh`
`16:23.11`	`Industrial`	`you can always use UNIT_AURA but that fires alot UNIT_AURA`
`16:23.22`	`Industrial`	`s/ UNIT_AURA$//`
`16:23.40`	ag`	`cladhaire: you there?`
`16:23.43`	`foxlit`	`Hm, use both.`
`16:24.03`	`foxlit`	`Warriors don't lose stances, check if druids trigger the shapeshift_forms event`
`16:32.00`	`wereHamster`	`is there a bank int he outlands?`
`16:33.13`	`MentalPower`	`Shattrath`
`16:33.17`	`haste`	`what he said`
`16:33.43`	`wereHamster`	`where's Shattrath? in zangarmarch?`
`16:34.05`	`Kaso`	`terokkar`
`16:34.06`	`MentalPower`	`to the south of zang`
`16:34.13`	`MentalPower`	`Terokkar Forest`
`16:34.38`	`wereHamster`	`I see now, thanks`
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`17:20.39`	`wereHamster`	`in exodar, is there a portal to shattrath?`
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`17:21.34`	`nevcairiel`	`only shttrath has portals, not the other way around`
`17:21.34`	`nevcairiel`	`+a`
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`17:25.57`	`wereHamster`	`damn.. :((`
`17:26.18`	`wereHamster`	`how stupid is that..`
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`17:28.08`	`Mery`	`well otherwise mage portals would be kind of useless =)`
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`17:29.27`	`grimman\|afkish`	`Mages are useless anyway. ;P`
`17:30.02`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=55798`
`17:30.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`lollers`
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`18:01.46`	`Kaso`	`thats odd`
`18:02.04`	`Kaso`	`the world pvp info frame thingy is called AlwaysUpFrame1`
`18:03.23`	`Shadowed`	`yeah`
`18:03.32`	`Kaso`	`odd name`
`18:03.38`	`Shadowed`	`it's the same thing the WSG/AB scores are displayed on`
`18:03.54`	`zenzelezz`	`http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/710/endgamell8.jpg o_O`
`18:04.14`	`Shadowed`	`Sounds about right`
`18:04.42`	`Shadowed`	`except for the feral druid`
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`18:24.22`	`Zeryl`	`\|Shadow\|, your the one who wanted the name of the font if i found it right?`
`18:24.31`	`Zeryl`	`s/your/you're/`
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`18:34.10`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
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`19:24.11`	`Thardal`	`i'll never get used to lua counting from 1`
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`19:34.57`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`well i got used to it eventualy :p`
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`20:19.45`	`Maldivia`	`grumble`
`20:21.41`	`Maldivia`	`... or any other mages`
`20:22.46`	`Maldivia`	`played with arcane builds?`
`20:22.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`A little`
`20:22.53`	`Maldivia`	`on beta/test`
`20:23.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`yeah, a little`
`20:23.08`	`Maldivia`	`Notice how 3/3 emp AM only gives 31.5% and not 45%...`
`20:23.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Wait, really?`
`20:23.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That's what the tooltip says?`
`20:23.54`	`nymbia`	`i think it's multiplying weirdly with the bonus spell damage that AM gets naturally`
`20:23.55`	`Maldivia`	`they do + 0.45 instead of *1.45`
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`20:24.49`	`nymbia`	`waste of time, though, i think. they said that with the points in it, it's supposed to be your highest DPS spell at the cost of efficiency.. but isn't that what arcane blast is for?`
`20:25.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`No, arcane blast is there to have high DPS spammable while moving`
`20:25.14`	`Maldivia`	`they said arcane would be the highest`
`20:25.31`	`Maldivia`	`blast doesn't become instant, only 1.5 sec cast`
`20:25.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Wait, what?`
`20:25.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I thought it was still instant`
`20:25.53`	`Maldivia`	`arcaen blast is a 2.5 sec cast spell`
`20:26.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`... :/`
`20:26.12`	`Maldivia`	`that decreases with 1/3 second pr buff, and increases with 50% mana på buff - stacks 3 times`
`20:26.18`	`Maldivia`	`it's Ice Lance that's instant`
`20:26.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I thought we had two new instants`
`20:26.49`	`Maldivia`	`We have a few new instant casts...`
`20:26.57`	`Cide`	`1.5 sec cast is effectively instant`
`20:26.58`	`Maldivia`	`Ice Lance, and the the 3 41p talents`
`20:27.05`	`Maldivia`	`Cide: NO`
`20:27.06`	`Cide`	`as long as you don't have to move`
`20:27.10`	`Maldivia`	`:)`
`20:27.28`	`Cide`	`I know what you're saying though; I hate vampiric touch for being 1.5s`
`20:27.30`	`Maldivia`	`well, it takes 3 Arcane Blast casts to make it 1.5 sec cast`
`20:27.53`	`Cide`	`which further implies that it's meant to be spammable when being still! :)`
`20:28.50`	`Maldivia`	`but anyway, about AM: Arcane Missiles gets dmg/3.5 bonus pr bolt (dmg * 5/3.5 for the entire spell) with Emp3/3, it's dmg * (5/3.5 + 0.45)`
`20:30.16`	`Maldivia`	`(5/3.5 + 0.45)/(5/3.5) = 1.315 => a 31.5% increase, not 45% as listed`
`20:32.12`	`Maldivia`	`But atleast they changed Arcane Instability to be after +dmg now :)`
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`20:36.59`	`\|Shadow\|`	`whats the name of the frame that shows whats going on with your spells`
`20:37.11`	`\|Shadow\|`	`like if you sit down and try and cast it says "You cant do that while sitting down"`
`20:37.25`	`Maldivia`	`UIErrorFrame ?`
`20:37.27`	`\|Shadow\|`	`or rather "you must be standing to do that"`
`20:37.30`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yea ty :P`
`20:37.50`	`Maldivia`	`\|Shadow\|: or something like that`
`20:38.02`	`\|Shadow\|`	`UIErrorsFrame`
`20:38.03`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:P`
`20:38.46`	`Maldivia`	`ok, an s aswell`
`20:39.07`	`caliban_`	`hallo : ] anyone familiar with creating a ScrollFrame through teh CreateFrame command in lua?`
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`21:13.02`	`Thrae`	`What's a good level to tank Deadmines?`
`21:13.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`60`
`21:13.30`	`Osagasu`	`18+`
`21:13.46`	`Thrae`	`Alright, I'll try my Level 19 Pally`
`21:14.17`	`Osagasu`	`Are the new paladin tanking abilities part of the expansion or are they on the PTR?`
`21:14.38`	`Thrae`	`Righteous Fury is already here, and it's perfect`
`21:14.50`	`Shadowed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:14.57`	`Thrae`	`+60% threat for Holy Damage`
`21:15.24`	`Osagasu`	`I mean Righteous Defense and Spiritual Attunement`
`21:15.27`	`Shadowed`	`you never tank deadmines anyway`
`21:15.36`	`Thrae`	`Ouch...well it's a NEW ability`
`21:15.42`	`Thrae`	`Recent, not new`
`21:15.44`	`Shadowed`	`you just do a good show of tanking, since the DPS classes are usually idiots and over-aggro anyway`
`21:15.55`	`Thrae`	`heh`
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`21:17.59`	`Osagasu`	`Haven't answered my question yet. :<`
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`21:18.59`	`caliban32`	`hello : ] i'm hoping someone might be able to help with setting up a scrollFrame...`
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`21:25.47`	`ckknight`	`Anyone have any thoughts, this was during the TBC install: An error was detected while verifying the contents of the file "C:\Program Files\Burning Crusade Closed Beta\Data\common.MPQ". There may be a problem with your system, or with the drive at C:\. You can attempt to install again. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support.`
`21:26.07`	`zespri`	`is there anybody on hellfire alliance who can invite?`
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`21:45.25`	`zenzelezz`	`argh...`
`21:46.05`	`zenzelezz`	`Taut Dragonhide gloves and shoulders, 2*Dragonstalker shoulders; all of it for DE`
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`21:52.09`	`thr`	`is there any addon that automaticly shift-loots the mob when u click it?`
`21:52.18`	`thr`	`Like the TBC UI option you can turn on/off`
`21:52.31`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`fruityloots if you mean live`
`21:53.03`	`thr`	`can't find any addon named that ;<`
`21:53.05`	`thr`	`atleast not on curse`
`21:53.55`	`thr`	`kk found it on worldofwar`
`21:54.26`	`thr`	`hmm but that doesn't do what i want`
`21:54.46`	`thr`	`when you shift-leftcklick a mob it loots everything on it, i wan't an addon that does that.. without the shiftclicking`
`22:00.15`	`Mery`	`i think that is not possible without the new api`
`22:00.36`	`ckknight`	`mery's right.`
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`22:11.46`	`thr`	`hm ok`
`22:11.49`	`thr`	`damn ;(`
`22:12.49`	`grimman\|afkish`	`Uh... my WoW is stuck on the loading screen, slowly eating more and more RAM. :P`
`22:12.52`	`grimman\|afkish`	`/cheer`
`22:13.40`	`Mike-N-Go`	`How do I say this correctly --if (somevar = nil) then; Do stuff; end;`
`22:13.59`	`grimman\|afkish`	`==`
`22:14.25`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Ahh, thanks, forgot about setting the value and referencing, lol.`
`22:19.32`	`ckknight`	`= means set`
`22:19.35`	`ckknight`	`== means test for equality`
`22:20.13`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Or what ever it is called...`
`22:20.21`	`Mike-N-Go`	`~equality`
`22:20.28`	`Mike-N-Go`	`~dict equality`
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`22:25.45`	`Mike-N-Go`	`I don't understand how I can do what I want to do:-- somevar = (SomeText..SomeNumber); if somevar.SomeNumber > ANumber then; DoStuff; end`
`22:26.11`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Is that how I would do it, 'somevar.SomeNumber' ?`
`22:28.32`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Because I can't compare a string to a number or something, or so it says.`
`22:30.17`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i have a fubar addon request! :P`
`22:34.07`	`nevcairiel`	`is there a way to cast something like Nature's Swiftness (spell that doesnt trigger glocal cooldown) and any other cast in one macro with one button click? i can only make it work with two clicks.`
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`22:36.01`	`Mike-N-Go`	`nevcairiel, what happens is order must be maintained.`
`22:36.11`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Put the instant cast first, then try it.`
`22:36.16`	`nevcairiel`	`i do`
`22:36.23`	`nevcairiel`	`it casts the instant, but doesnt cast my heal`
`22:36.58`	`nevcairiel`	`as of sloukens definition its supposed to work`
`22:37.42`	`nevcairiel`	`(in bc, that is)`
`22:38.03`	`Mike-N-Go`	`I don't know about TBC.`
`22:38.19`	`Mike-N-Go`	`But that is how I do it for my macros in the live.`
`22:39.17`	`grimman\|afkish`	`Oh, bandage macros update the bandage count!`
`22:41.10`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Oh, for my question I mean-- somevar = (SomeOtherVar..SomeNumber); if SomeOtherVar.SomeNumber > ANumber then; DoStuff; end`
`22:41.22`	`Mike-N-Go`	`The 'SomeOtherVar.SomeNumber ' part I am not sure how to parse.`
`22:50.51`	`MentalPower`	`nevcairiel: you need /stopcasting in between them`
`22:51.04`	`Cide`	`Mike-N-Go: www.lua.org/pil`
`22:51.23`	`Mike-N-Go`	`I have had that open in my browser`
`22:51.28`	`Cide`	`read it`
`22:51.38`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Sure.`
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`22:53.10`	`nevcairiel`	`ahh stopcasting now`
`22:53.35`	`nevcairiel`	`thanks MentalPower, works fine now :)`
`22:53.42`	`MentalPower`	`np, anytime`
`22:55.30`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Clide: Where should I sart :O , the beginning?`
`22:56.01`	`Cide`	`that usually helps`
`22:59.40`	`Maldivia`	`Elkano ?`
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`23:29.47`	`Elkano`	`hmm?`
`23:30.12`	`Elkano`	`Maldivia, what did you want?`
`23:30.35`	`Maldivia`	`Elkano: 8144 patch, make a folder called WDB in the Cache folder, to store cache information between sessions`
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`23:32.55`	`Elkano`	`so no longer Data\enUS\WTB\ but Cache\WTB\?`
`23:33.42`	`Maldivia`	`yep`
`23:33.59`	`Maldivia`	`and then the client will make a enGB folder inside the WDB folder, and put files there`
`23:34.22`	`Maldivia`	`so it's Cache\WDB\enGB\* now`
`23:34.43`	`Elkano`	`ok, I'll change the text for ItemDB :) thx 4 info :)`
`23:34.52`	`\|Shadow\|`	`is there any addon that just shows how many bandages i have?`
`23:34.56`	`\|Shadow\|`	`in a nice compact frame?`
`23:35.04`	`\|Shadow\|`	`im talking all the bg bandages and normal bandages :P`
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`23:44.36`	`thr`	`hmpf`
`23:44.44`	`thr`	`how good is hand of edward the odd for a druid/paladin realy?`
`23:46.29`	`gngsk\|`	`it's prolly better for a priest than a paladin, it's good for grinding because you can get off instant cast smite/starfire when it procs.`
`23:46.41`	`gngsk\|`	`It's not really that useful for raiding as you're not gonna melee much`
`23:46.55`	`thr`	`for a priest? o:O`
`23:46.58`	`thr`	`r u kidding me.`
`23:47.08`	`Teomyr`	`you're not gonna melee as a priest at any time, usually`
`23:47.09`	`thr`	`it's probably the least usefull for a priest.`
`23:47.28`	`thr`	`shaman is probably the class that would benefit the most due to instant chain lightning/lightningbolt`
`23:47.32`	`gngsk\|`	`I'd rather melee with that mace then wand as a priest, if I were grinding as holy/disc`
`23:47.44`	`thr`	`gngsk\|: how crappy wands do u have? o.O`
`23:47.52`	`thr`	`most epic wands have 70-80+ dps`
`23:47.59`	`thr`	`atleast.`
`23:48.04`	`gngsk\|`	`yea, but wanding sucks cuz of the auto shoot`
`23:48.20`	`thr`	`huh?`
`23:48.36`	`thr`	`so you'd rather press "Wand" for everyshot than having it shoot it automaticly?`
`23:48.55`	`gngsk\|`	`yea, I preferred it that way`
`23:49.05`	`thr`	`that way made me cry`
`23:49.16`	`zenzelezz`	`why would you rather have it that way?`
`23:49.36`	`Teomyr`	`it didn't trigger global cooldown, iirc`
`23:49.40`	`gngsk\|`	`right`
`23:49.43`	`Teomyr`	`as it does now`
`23:49.45`	`Teomyr`	`which sucks`
`23:49.58`	`thr`	`but still, the GC u can live with.. whenever is that like... gamebreaking?`
`23:50.22`	`gngsk\|`	`it's not, I just don't like it, and don't wand very often because of it`
`23:50.37`	`thr`	`ok well, back to my Q.. i actally got hand of edward the odd`
`23:50.40`	`thr`	`but i haven't equiped it yet`
`23:50.51`	`Teomyr`	`and you're playing a ... ?`
`23:51.11`	`thr`	`paladin 60 or if i'm going to wait for my druid (46 atm) to ding 60`
`23:51.21`	`Kaso`	`better for pally`
`23:52.28`	`Teomyr`	`agree`
`23:53.21`	`Teomyr`	`as a druid, you'll mostly either be casting in caster form, or meleeing in cat/bear form. neither of these will benefit from the proc`
`23:54.03`	`thr`	`but`
`23:54.27`	`thr`	`someone told me that in the next patch (or tbc?) weapon procs will go off in cat/bear form?`
`23:54.56`	`Teomyr`	`hm... not sure about that`
`23:55.11`	`gngsk\|`	`shifting between forms doesn't count as a spell?`
`23:55.20`	`thr`	`well... no`
`23:55.20`	`Teomyr`	`probably not`
`23:55.24`	`thr`	`and it's instant already`
`23:55.32`	`thr`	`and instant spells don't consume the proc from the weapon`
`23:56.00`	`gngsk\|`	`k`

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