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`00:00.04`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: hehe`
`00:01.00`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Antiar1 (n=Chris@ip68-2-219-112.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`00:01.24`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: since there's no access to the chatType of stickyType variables before the SecureCmdList iteration`
`00:01.46`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: unless you tab-complete the secure slash command`
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`00:08.00`	`Maldivia`	`Wee, crash bug with taint :)`
`00:16.32`	`cladhaire`	`nice`
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`00:24.16`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i found what appears to be a server bug today`
`00:24.31`	`\|Shadow\|`	`a few people that where talking showed up as Personname-RealmName`
`00:24.39`	`\|Shadow\|`	`as if i was in the battlegrounds (but i was in MC)`
`00:27.36`	`kaiden`	`are you running any addons?`
`00:27.43`	`\|Shadow\|`	`loads of em`
`00:27.48`	`\|Shadow\|`	`but i doubt that'd do it`
`00:27.49`	`kaiden`	`then it wasn't a server bug`
`00:27.49`	`kaiden`	`:p`
`00:27.54`	`\|Shadow\|`	`bareing in mind it was intermittant`
`00:28.04`	`\|Shadow\|`	`only for certain people :P`
`00:28.04`	`kaiden`	`everything that comes into chat is passed through addons first`
`00:28.10`	`kaiden`	`so they can change the way stuff outputs`
`00:28.25`	`\|Shadow\|`	`ok :Pwell meh`
`00:34.51`	`Maldivia`	`slouken is fast today :)`
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`00:43.13`	`cladhaire`	`I can't complete any quests on Blade's Edge`
`00:49.37`	`SP\|Sorren`	`eh, i just turned in a quest`
`00:51.54`	`cladhaire`	`well i shoudl say I can 't get the credit for kills`
`00:51.56`	`cladhaire`	`or get the items to drop`
`00:51.57`	`cladhaire`	`etc`
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`00:53.15`	`Cairenn`	`blizz hates you, that's all`
`00:53.54`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i'm inclined to agree since it seems that kill quests are still working for me :P`
`00:57.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Poll: How many of you are writing Flexbar2/Flexlite/etc?`
`00:57.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`"Some incarnation of flexbar for WoW 2.0"`
`00:57.29`	`kaiden`	`ScytheBlade1, last time i counted there's like 4 or 5 of them around`
`00:57.43`	`ScytheBlade1`	`kaiden, that actively work already?`
`00:58.22`	`kaiden`	`i know at least 2 of them work haven't tried the other two`
`00:58.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'll have to search them out then`
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`01:10.18`	`Saeris`	`Does the GetManaRegen function take into account bonuses like the Stormrage 3-piece bonus?`
`01:11.46`	`ckknight`	`ScytheBlade1, cncfanatic is making Flexbar2...`
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`01:18.52`	`Maldivia`	`hmm... someone was impatient`
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`02:01.42`	`Industrial`	`im in VC with TWO level 40 ppl`
`02:01.43`	`Industrial`	`they suck`
`02:01.46`	`Industrial`	`i died 7 times`
`02:01.51`	`cladhaire`	`hahahaha`
`02:01.51`	`Industrial`	`and im at the ship ater 40 mins`
`02:01.54`	`cladhaire`	`thats sad`
`02:01.57`	`Industrial`	`yes very`
`02:02.05`	`Antiar1`	`....`
`02:02.06`	`Industrial`	`my 55 warrior clears that in 15 mins`
`02:02.23`	`Industrial`	`but i need 1 more piece for my twink and it wont drop :(`
`02:02.32`	`End`	`hmm, on beta -all- my quests went away o_O`
`02:04.11`	`cladhaire`	`quests are having issues atm`
`02:05.19`	`End`	`hmm`
`02:05.40`	`End`	`well, the npcs have question marks above their heads`
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`02:05.53`	`cladhaire`	`yeah but i can't get quest credit for an kills/drops`
`02:05.55`	`cladhaire`	`nothing happens`
`02:06.02`	`End`	`interesting`
`02:06.26`	`End`	`I haven't tried -doing- any quests yet since I can't remember what needs doing, but I probably would have the same problem`
`02:07.50`	`End`	`hm`
`02:07.51`	`End`	`relogged`
`02:07.56`	`End`	`my quests show up at least`
`02:12.58`	`End`	`and my quests work`
`02:13.04`	`End`	`getting the drops`
`02:27.13`	`cladhaire`	`Is anyone familiar with SetTexCoord?`
`02:27.19`	`cladhaire`	`i.e. the example on the wiki.`
`02:27.27`	`cladhaire`	`The rotation example isn't working`
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`02:29.29`	`Saeris`	`Any druids with beta access here?`
`02:29.50`	`End`	`yes`
`02:30.03`	`End`	`I have a level 61 druid ;p`
`02:30.52`	`Saeris`	`Can you confirm or deny whether GetManaRegen accounts for Innervate?`
`02:30.52`	`End`	`cladhaire: have you looked at iriel's example in his download directory?`
`02:30.53`	`cladhaire`	`no, i just want to rotate a texture 90 degrees.. and thats what the example on the wiki is supposed to do`
`02:30.58`	`End`	`Saeris: it appears to`
`02:31.51`	`Saeris`	`Alrighty, thanks.`
`02:31.51`	`End`	`well, iriel's example spins it around continually, so you could probably figure out how to just do it 90 degrees`
`02:31.56`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`02:31.57`	`cladhaire`	`ok`
`02:32.14`	`End`	`http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/TextureSpinTest-0.1-10900.zip`
`02:32.25`	`Maldivia`	`hmm, I had a function on pastey the other day for that`
`02:32.52`	`Maldivia`	`clad: http://wowi.pastey.net/2442`
`02:32.54`	`cladhaire`	`and now my texture is missing.`
`02:32.57`	`cladhaire`	`thanks maldavia =)`
`02:33.08`	`Maldivia`	`ehh http://wowi.pastey.net/2444`
`02:33.09`	`End`	`hmm, missing texture might cause a problem there ;p`
`02:34.12`	`Maldivia`	`clad: if it's always 0,90,180,270,360,etc degrees you want to turn, remove the *0.9`
`02:34.24`	`cladhaire`	`ok.. thanks.`
`02:34.26`	`cladhaire`	`i'll play with it`
`02:34.30`	`cladhaire`	`if i can find my damn texture.. its hiding`
`02:35.40`	`Maldivia`	`clad: that's just to scale down the texture a bit, so when you turn it, the corners wont be outside the texture area (well, it still will be, but most of it will be inside, if you want to make 100 sure, set s2=1)`
`02:36.19`	`cladhaire`	`ok, i'll try to understand it =-)`
`02:37.09`	`Maldivia`	`take a square, rotate it 45 degrees, the corner will now be over the previous horizontal top of the square`
`02:37.58`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`02:38.00`	`cladhaire`	`i know that much`
`02:38.09`	`cladhaire`	`whats the input to calccoords?`
`02:38.17`	`cladhaire`	`the amount of rotation, i,e, 90, 180?`
`02:38.18`	`Maldivia`	`a degree in rad`
`02:38.26`	`cladhaire`	`okay`
`02:38.27`	`cladhaire`	`thanks.`
`02:39.10`	`Maldivia`	`I the addon I used it in, I put in GetTime(), to make a texture spin round and round :)`
`02:39.38`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`02:39.57`	`Maldivia`	`well, the effect was nice :)`
`02:40.58`	`Maldivia`	`ohh, and btw, the variables aren'y 100% correct, my first version was flipped, so I just changed them around in the return statement, instead of changing the variable assignments :)`
`02:42.31`	`cladhaire`	`lol okay`
`02:42.41`	`cladhaire`	`well this is a rectangle which kinda messes with me =)`
`02:42.48`	`cladhaire`	`its neat to watch =)`
`02:43.01`	`Maldivia`	`yeah, the function is made with a square in mind`
`02:43.18`	`cladhaire`	`ook`
`02:43.21`	`cladhaire`	`ooh`
`02:43.25`	`cladhaire`	`make something that spins the minimap =)`
`02:43.26`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`02:43.40`	`End`	`that wouldn't work`
`02:43.44`	`Maldivia`	`since it just calculates the point on a unit circle, and then adds 90,180 and 270 degrees to get the other 3 corners :)`
`02:43.58`	`cladhaire`	`cmon it'd be fun!!`
`02:44.02`	`End`	`(the minimap is a frame)`
`02:44.08`	`End`	`(not a texture)`
`02:44.38`	`cladhaire`	`i know`
`02:44.40`	`cladhaire`	`i'm just saying`
`02:44.45`	`cladhaire`	`the ring on the outside is a texture`
`02:44.51`	`cladhaire`	`it'd be trippy to spin it =)`
`02:44.57`	`End`	`that doesn't seem as interesting :P`
`02:45.07`	`cladhaire`	`BOO`
`02:45.24`	`End`	`shouldn't be too hard though ;p`
`02:45.41`	`Maldivia`	`PlayerPortrait:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() PlayerPortrait:SetTexCoord(CalcCoords(GetTime())); end)`
`02:45.50`	`Maldivia`	`and hope your avatar doesn't get dizzy...`
`02:46.01`	`\|Shadow\|`	`aha!`
`02:46.03`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i win cookies`
`02:46.03`	`End`	`that one outta be interesting o_O`
`02:46.15`	`\|Shadow\|`	`earlier i said that ppls names where showing up as PersonsName-Hakkar for me`
`02:46.19`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and i couldn't reply to there pms`
`02:46.37`	`\|Shadow\|`	`the people in question, this also shows with there own name when typing themselves`
`02:46.47`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:P`
`02:46.58`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and i even logged out and disabled all addons`
`02:47.02`	`\|Shadow\|`	`hakkar server fails.`
`02:48.56`	`Maldivia`	`clad, hmm - for rotation a rectangle, you can use Iriel's line draw lib?`
`02:49.12`	`cladhaire`	`i have no idea, this is my first time playing`
`02:50.10`	`Maldivia`	`clad: example of an analog clock, I made using his function: nerdheaven.dk/~the_real/wow/mod/LineDrawClock.zip`
`02:50.14`	`End`	`aww dammit, the player portrait touches the edges in certain places`
`02:50.32`	`Maldivia`	`which simply rotates 3 rectangles around a center, to represent the hour, minute and second indicators`
`02:55.04`	`\|Shadow\|`	`anyone knows any addons that say fun things in raid\party when you make a portal? :)`
`02:55.10`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i've seen loads of people with a addon that does that :P`
`02:55.30`	`Maldivia`	`Arcanum, or something like that`
`02:55.39`	`Maldivia`	`the Necrosis style addon for magse, can't remember it's name`
`02:55.44`	`Maldivia`	`or just make a macro`
`02:55.55`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yea i know crylosis does it which is similar`
`02:56.05`	`\|Shadow\|`	`98ms time onupdate ftl though`
`02:56.18`	`Maldivia`	`the make a macro`
`02:56.25`	`Maldivia`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`02:56.43`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yea but i liked the way that they have alot of sayings`
`02:56.44`	`Maldivia`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:56.46`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and they are all random`
`02:57.05`	`Maldivia`	`then add a random factor to your macro`
`02:57.20`	`\|Shadow\|`	`doesn't know the wow macro programming thingy`
`02:57.32`	`\|Shadow\|`	`how do i do that? (i have a addon that allows me to make 7000 char macros so meh)`
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`02:58.06`	`Maldivia`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:58.26`	`Maldivia`	`for 2.0: s[math.random(#s)]`
`02:58.29`	`\|Shadow\|`	`but it needs to do party aswell`
`02:58.54`	`Maldivia`	`SendChatMessage(..., GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 and "RAID" or "PARTY"`
`02:59.04`	`\|Shadow\|`	`ok :)`
`03:01.22`	`\|Shadow\|`	`./run local s={"IF, here I come", "blabla", "blabl") SendChatMessage(s[math.random(table.getn(s))] GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 and "RAID" or "PARTY")`
`03:01.25`	`\|Shadow\|`	`returns a error :(`
`03:02.26`	`\|Shadow\|`	`[string "local s={"IF, here i come", "blabla", "blabl") SendChatMessage(..."]:1: }' expected near ')'`
`03:04.01`	`Maldivia`	`/run local s={"IF, here I come", "blabla", "blabl") SendChatMessage(s[math.random(table.getn(s))], GetNumRaidMembers() > 0 and "RAID" or "PARTY")`
`03:04.14`	`Maldivia`	`missing a comma :)`
`03:04.59`	`Maldivia`	`ahh, and it should be } after "blabl", instead of )`
`03:05.13`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol was gonna say that does nothing`
`03:05.14`	`\|Shadow\|`	`ok :P`
`03:05.32`	`\|Shadow\|`	`yay that works :)`
`03:05.34`	`\|Shadow\|`	`thanks :P`
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`03:18.29`	`\|Shadow\|`	`Maldivia i found a flaw`
`03:18.34`	`Maldivia`	`?`
`03:18.38`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i think theres a character limit in the ilne`
`03:18.40`	`\|Shadow\|`	`line*`
`03:18.45`	`\|Shadow\|`	`or a word limit`
`03:19.07`	`Maldivia`	`well, then it's your "macro" program that adds that, there shouldn't be`
`03:19.49`	`\|Shadow\|`	`nope its not`
`03:19.53`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i try and enter that into the chat bo`
`03:19.55`	`\|Shadow\|`	`box*`
`03:19.58`	`\|Shadow\|`	`and it cuts the end off the line`
`03:20.08`	`Maldivia`	`ahh yes, the chatbox is limited to 255 char`
`03:20.15`	`Maldivia`	`same limit as normal macros`
`03:20.23`	`\|Shadow\|`	`so thats not gonna work then :P`
`03:20.32`	`\|Shadow\|`	`250 chars isn't long enough to make cool portal messages :(`
`03:20.48`	`Maldivia`	`just make an addon for it then`
`03:21.13`	`Maldivia`	`Or use one of the many addons, for adding text to spell casts`
`03:21.23`	`\|Shadow\|`	`but thats what i asked for in the first place!`
`03:21.27`	`Maldivia`	`:)`
`03:21.37`	`\|Shadow\|`	`where would thee get one of these addons`
`03:21.43`	`\|Shadow\|`	`that isn't filled with loads of other junk`
`03:21.56`	`Maldivia`	`SpeakEasy, AfterCast etc, should work for you`
`03:23.05`	`\|Shadow\|`	`ty :)`
`03:24.03`	`\|Shadow\|`	`both great :)`
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`03:46.37`	`BlueKnight`	`Hi, I just downloaded Gatherer, and I was curious if anyone could help me. The program works well, and tracks where all the copper ore deposits are at so I can go back to them, but I'm wondering if there isn't a data file or something that can show me where all of them are at, even the ones I haven't been too?`
`03:48.26`	`\|Shadow\|`	`probably is`
`03:48.27`	`\|Shadow\|`	`google it :P`
`03:49.58`	`cladhaire`	`more imporrtantly`
`03:50.08`	`cladhaire`	`the gatherer team does not support importing of database files`
`03:50.14`	`cladhaire`	`i'd suggest building your own =)`
`03:54.50`	`\|Shadow\|`	`well, time for me to have a very important meeting with my pillow about sleep.`
`03:54.52`	`\|Shadow\|`	`nn :P#`
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`04:23.06`	`Saeris`	`Is the UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS`
`04:23.10`	`Saeris`	`event broken?`
`04:23.25`	`Saeris`	`It doesn't seem to be firing at all.`
`04:24.35`	`Gnarfoz`	`s can anyone point me to where I can find those few lines of code that create a backdrop I put behind my chat boxes, actionbars etc? I can't find it :<`
`04:28.27`	`Maldivia`	`frame:SetBackdrop(backdropTable)`
`04:29.00`	`Maldivia`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop`
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`04:44.59`	`SP\|Sorren`	`how do you set your focus target?`
`04:46.37`	`Thunder_Child`	`click it?`
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`04:48.28`	`SP\|Sorren`	`thanks`
`04:49.05`	`pastamancer`	`oh, and /focus with no target clears it`
`04:50.01`	`Maldivia`	`/clearfocus clears it aswell`
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`08:47.42`	`SP\|Sorren`	`is there a slash command for targetting the nearest enemy?`
`08:49.13`	`DrDre`	`lol`
`08:49.23`	`DrDre`	`dunno but u can make one :P`
`08:49.53`	`ckknight`	`no, SP\|Sorren`
`08:51.10`	`SP\|Sorren`	`make one?`
`08:51.12`	`SP\|Sorren`	`will it work in beta?`
`08:51.43`	`DrDre`	`SlashCmdList["TNE"] = TargetNearestEnemy()`
`08:51.43`	`DrDre`	`SLASH_TNE1 = "/tne"`
`08:51.47`	`DrDre`	`that should work?`
`08:52.16`	`DrDre`	`from my small knowledge of lua id think that would do it >_>`
`08:52.17`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i thougth targetting functions were protected`
`08:52.34`	`DrDre`	`i dunno if itll work in tbc, try it`
`08:53.47`	`DrDre`	`bah why didnt i scan ah for deals after i scanned, i went afk during scan to watch movie :( there was a greater eternal on AH for 5s buyout ;/`
`09:04.30`	`ckknight`	`won't work in TBC...`
`09:17.41`	`SP\|Sorren`	`anyone here have a rogue in beta?`
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`10:35.06`	`zespri`	`In TBC, it's not possible to write a macro/addon so that in combat when you click something it casts different ability depending on how much mana/rage/energy you have?`
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`10:36.26`	`Maldivia`	`no`
`10:36.29`	`Tem`	`zespri, no, and that's quite intentional`
`10:36.53`	`zespri`	`lol`
`10:36.56`	`zespri`	`thank you`
`10:37.17`	`zespri`	`Yeah, I guess that if it's true it's not by mistake =)`
`10:37.25`	`zespri`	`just making sure`
`10:37.29`	`Maldivia`	`power, health, cooldown, range, buff/debuff are conditions the designers do not want macros to automatically act upon`
`10:37.30`	`zespri`	`thanks again`
`10:39.51`	`zespri`	`then I guess my friend will have to learn to play =)`
`10:40.41`	`zespri`	`He is number 31 on our server pvp ladder, which would never be posible with out the scripts he wrote to assist him in the battle`
`10:42.16`	`zespri`	`is anybody who can invite on?`
`10:44.47`	`Maldivia`	`invite to what?`
`10:44.56`	`zespri`	`to the guild`
`10:45.21`	`zespri`	`hellfire horde`
`10:45.29`	`Maldivia`	`not me`
`10:45.49`	`Maldivia`	`I can to the EU guilds`
`10:45.51`	`zespri`	`ckknight might be able, but he is hiding`
`10:46.09`	`zespri`	`and cirenn is laways asleeps this time of the day`
`10:46.22`	`zespri`	`*cairenn`
`10:46.40`	`Maldivia`	`tried a /who TargetUnit`
`10:48.21`	`zespri`	`does it work this way with a guild name?`
`10:48.34`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`10:49.10`	`zespri`	`didn't know that`
`10:49.34`	`Maldivia`	`if not, then there's always /who g-"TargetUnit"`
`10:49.40`	`Maldivia`	`I think g- is the guild modifier`
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`14:25.03`	`Maldivia`	`hmm, is /castsequence reset=target Hunter's Mark, nothing`
`14:25.09`	`Maldivia`	`considered an exploint of the macro system?`
`14:27.45`	`JoshBorke`	`why would you use a castsequence on that?`
`14:32.53`	`Thardal`	`nothing you can do with lua is ever an exploit`
`14:33.03`	`Thardal`	`besides, castsequence wont work in 2.0 anymore anyway`
`14:33.25`	`Thardal`	`so you might just as well l2p without it to get used to it :P`
`14:34.20`	`Mery`	`castsequence is new in 2.0.....`
`14:34.56`	`Thardal`	`but not in combat`
`14:35.00`	`JoshBorke`	`yes in combat`
`14:35.24`	`JoshBorke`	`Thardal: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44757854&sid=1`
`14:37.34`	`Maldivia`	`JoshBorke: because it "exploits" the feature, that the sequence wont continue, if it can't cast the spell`
`14:38.04`	`Maldivia`	`JoshBorke: since you dont have a spell called nothing, it will never return to hunter's mark, thus makes you able to make macros that cast it once pr mob`
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`14:41.55`	`Mery`	`well probably more important when it comes to (for example) warlock curses and reset with target or time, and in that case i'd say: it's probably something they don't want`
`14:42.53`	`JoshBorke`	`Mery: read the thread, they specifically mention warlock curses as being ideal-`
`14:43.24`	`Maldivia`	`/castsequence reset=target Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolate, Unstable Affliction`
`14:43.28`	`Mery`	`lol well if that is known / approved then hunters mark is too`
`14:43.32`	`Maldivia`	`or what ever the warlock spells are called`
`14:43.45`	`JoshBorke`	`Maldivia: hm, i think it is valid`
`14:43.51`	`Maldivia`	`yeah, it is..`
`14:44.02`	`JoshBorke`	`i don't think it would be an exploit`
`14:44.08`	`JoshBorke`	`since it's really just you being lazy :-D`
`14:44.15`	`Maldivia`	`but the thing I'm questioning, is the addition of invalid spell names, to force-stop the sequence`
`14:44.32`	`Mery`	`no I mean: /castsequence reset=target,20 Curse of Agony, nothing`
`14:44.53`	`Maldivia`	`Mery: that aswell, that would essentially be a cooldown checker`
`14:45.03`	`JoshBorke`	`it's no different than /cast [harm] Hunter's Mark and then not hitting the macro again`
`14:45.06`	`Mery`	`exactly`
`14:45.28`	`Maldivia`	`JoshBorke: the question is, if it can be used with the old "fall through" method`
`14:45.41`	`Maldivia`	`since casting "nothing", doesn't do anything, so it continues to the next macro line`
`14:46.27`	`Mery`	`so I could do a second line with the second curse and it would chose whihc curse to cast?`
`14:46.40`	`JoshBorke`	`i don't think you can combine castsequence with other macro commands`
`14:46.45`	`Maldivia`	`you can`
`14:48.15`	`Maldivia`	`for example, to make a macro that casts Cone of Cold every time it's up, and Arcane Explosion otherwise:`
`14:48.19`	`Maldivia`	`/castsequence reset=target,10 Cone of Cold, nothing`
`14:48.22`	`Maldivia`	`/cast Arcane Explosion`
`14:48.50`	`Maldivia`	`thus implementing the cooldown check, that the designer doesn't want`
`14:49.32`	`TS\|Skrom`	`Ony to 3% this weekend ^.^`
`14:49.35`	`TS\|Skrom`	`getting closer`
`14:50.56`	`Gngsk`	`solo?`
`14:56.49`	`JoshBorke`	`i really don't think you can mix cast and castsequence`
`14:56.56`	`TS\|Skrom`	`um no lol but I', in a newer guild ^.^`
`15:01.12`	`Gngsk`	`ahh, cool`
`15:01.44`	`Maldivia`	`Josh: I just tested, worked fine`
`15:02.02`	`JoshBorke`	`bah!`
`15:03.26`	`cryogen`	`mixing them seems to make not a lot lof logical sense, given the multiple click nature of castsequence`
`15:04.11`	`Mery`	`just report it Maldivia, they gonna close it sooner or later anyway`
`15:04.20`	`Maldivia`	`Mery: I did :)`
`15:04.30`	`Mery`	`:)`
`15:04.30`	`Maldivia`	`Mery: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47014586&sid=1`
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`15:09.58`	`Maldivia`	`ok, multiple sequences in a macro is a bit fubar :)`
`15:13.05`	`cryogen`	`now that cant have been intended.. :)`
`15:13.08`	`cryogen`	`you could cause havok with that`
`15:13.42`	`Maldivia`	`hmm, actually, there shouldn't be a problem...`
`15:15.08`	`Maldivia`	`ahh yes`
`15:16.09`	`Maldivia`	`well, chaining several macros together, so the sequences in in their own macro, would do the trick`
`15:17.47`	`JoshBorke`	`~seen kirov`
`15:17.57`	`purl`	`kirov <n=Kirov@204.155.78.140> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 27d 18h 27m 43s ago, saying: 'If anyone here is a fan of animation, check this out. http://www.ourmedia.org/node/106800'.`
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`15:39.34`	`FelixTeCat`	`Morning all`
`15:52.40`	`End`	`oh boy, wxPython gives fun errors (and by fun I mean a window the shows itself for about a second before vanishing, so I have no idea what is happening)`
`15:59.44`	`FelixTeCat`	`LOL`
`16:00.21`	`Thardal`	`wxwindows is made by the antichrist`
`16:00.30`	`Thardal`	`i'm 100% convinced of that`
`16:00.56`	`FelixTeCat`	`O.o`
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`16:59.07`	`Thardal`	`debugging on a 1200 queue server is somewhat of a pita`
`16:59.48`	`nevcairiel`	`be cool, go beta :)`
`17:00.23`	`Thardal`	`k plz run the virus i'm sending you on dcc so i can get a beta key`
`17:00.58`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`17:01.18`	`End`	`oh boy, wxPython gives fun errors (and by fun I mean a window the shows itself for about a second before vanishing, so I have no idea what is happening)`
`17:01.21`	`End`	`oops`
`17:01.43`	`End`	`wanted to repeat a command`
`17:01.46`	`JoshBorke`	`Be cool, go PTR :-D`
`17:01.48`	`End`	`only I was in the wrong window`
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`17:17.54`	`JoshBorke`	`i so found my new coding spots`
`17:18.00`	`JoshBorke`	`on top of floating islands in TBC`
`17:18.39`	`Cairenn`	`heh`
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`17:19.31`	`Antiarc`	`Heheh, nice.`
`17:19.48`	`Antiarc`	`My current one is above the repair vendor in ironforge`
`17:19.51`	`Antiarc`	`On the table.`
`17:20.06`	`JoshBorke`	`i use that one too!`
`17:20.41`	`JoshBorke`	`also the fountain in SW is another spot i use`
`17:20.58`	`Antiarc`	`I generally avoid SW as I'm on an RP server and 95% of the SW RP makes me want to gouge my eyes out`
`17:22.05`	`JoshBorke`	`that'd be a good reason to avoid SW`
`17:23.21`	`JoshBorke`	`TBC is gonna be so awesome!`
`17:25.40`	`Antiarc`	`Yes it is.`
`17:26.08`	`Antiarc`	`They need to fix Rampage though, so I can determine if I want to stick with my rogue or make my warrior my new main`
`17:26.26`	`Antiarc`	`Because right now, the warrior is winning, as the ability to hit 2400 AP self-buffed is pretty significant :D`
`17:26.31`	`JoshBorke`	`wow, yea`
`17:27.08`	`Antiarc`	`My rogue is in AQ40/Naxx epics. My warrior is in blues and an MC drop or two with an OEB.`
`17:27.26`	`Antiarc`	`The rogue has 1044 AP, 1244 with double crusader up.`
`17:27.44`	`Antiarc`	`The warrior has 1045 AP without Battleshout, 2400+ with BS/Rampage/Crusader`
`17:28.02`	`Antiarc`	`Soooo yeah.`
`17:28.22`	`Antiarc`	`The warrior's gear also isn't enchanted.`
`17:31.51`	`zenzelezz`	`remind me, what's Rampage?`
`17:34.11`	`Tain`	`It's a video game where you get to play either a giant ape or a big lizard guy and you smash buildings in.`
`17:35.41`	`zenzelezz`	`make me look it up myself, how inconsiderate!`
`17:36.31`	`Tain`	`I don't know what it does!`
`17:36.57`	`zenzelezz`	`neither do I, which was obviously why I asked in the first place`
`17:38.43`	`Tain`	`That's a fair assessment of the situation.`
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`17:50.51`	`Antiarc`	`Rampage is the 41-point Fury talent`
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`17:51.04`	`Antiarc`	`+40 AP on use (for my current rank), +40 AP on hit, up to 5 stacks`
`17:51.16`	`Antiarc`	`So 200 AP at a 5-stack, +10% from berserker stance = +220 AP`
`17:51.26`	`nevcairiel`	`doesnt sound that much`
`17:51.27`	`Antiarc`	`Except it's bugged and is giving me like +700 AP at the moment.`
`17:51.31`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`17:51.39`	`Antiarc`	`220 AP is pretty significant for Fury`
`17:51.49`	`Antiarc`	`That's an extra 99 damage per Bloodthirst`
`17:52.05`	`Antiarc`	`Plus, it increases rage generation since white damage is hitting harder.`
`17:56.41`	`nevcairiel`	`I would have no idea. I only play healing :D`
`17:58.27`	`JoshBorke`	`me too`
`17:59.02`	`JoshBorke`	`speaking of which, i want a mod that allows me to define spells on a button that when i hit the button it casts my current rank of the spell. if i shift-click the button it increases the rank of the spell`
`17:59.30`	`nevcairiel`	`increasing the spell a normal click would cast?`
`17:59.35`	`JoshBorke`	`yep`
`17:59.39`	`nevcairiel`	`i dont think thats possible, in BC anyway.`
`17:59.52`	`nevcairiel`	`you can define spells to be cast, but you cannot change those spells while in combat`
`18:00.13`	`JoshBorke`	`couldn't the shift-click be assigned to a header and it changes the state?`
`18:00.20`	`nevcairiel`	`hrm`
`18:00.36`	`nevcairiel`	`if you place each spell in a different action button`
`18:00.41`	`nevcairiel`	`maybe it could work`
`18:01.14`	`nevcairiel`	`i am not sure if you can make it move through states, basicly with shift and stuff its only "change state while shift is down"`
`18:01.24`	`nevcairiel`	`and change back when its up again`
`18:01.36`	`nevcairiel`	`with transition rules it might work`
`18:01.49`	`nevcairiel`	`way too complicated :D`
`18:01.58`	`JoshBorke`	`it doesn't seem that complicated to me :-(`
`18:02.05`	`JoshBorke`	`what if i made the state-change some other key?`
`18:02.19`	`nevcairiel`	`If you figure out howto do that, do tell`
`18:02.35`	`JoshBorke`	`i have too much else to work on :-D`
`18:03.02`	`nevcairiel`	`well, i guess with Shift it could work, press shift and it switches to state1, now have a transition rule, if in 0 go 1, if in 1 go 2, and so on,`
`18:03.20`	`nevcairiel`	`you could build a circle there`
`18:03.29`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, that's what i'm thinking`
`18:03.51`	`JoshBorke`	`or i could just learn to double cast spells`
`18:03.56`	`nevcairiel`	`hehe`
`18:03.58`	`JoshBorke`	`1-1 for Flash of Light (Rank 1)`
`18:04.06`	`JoshBorke`	`1-5 for Flash of Light (Rank 5)`
`18:04.30`	`nevcairiel`	`something like that wouldve been damn easy before 2.0`
`18:04.39`	`Antiarc`	`2.0 complicated a lot of things`
`18:04.46`	`cogwheel`	`XD`
`18:04.47`	`cogwheel`	`Like the Playstation 3, the Nintendo Wii sold out on launch day this weekend. Unlike the PS3, the launch was a peaceful affair with no reports yet of console-related violence in the US.`
`18:04.48`	`JoshBorke`	`it's easy in 2.0 too, with the state headers`
`18:04.58`	`JoshBorke`	`lol cogwheel, yea`
`18:05.14`	`End`	`there were probably a lot more wiis too`
`18:05.16`	`nevcairiel`	`console-related violence .. bad enough that this word exisits :D`
`18:05.18`	`Antiarc`	`cogwheel: http://www.xkcd.com/c186.html`
`18:05.26`	`pastamancer`	`Antiarc: I was just about to link that`
`18:05.41`	`Antiarc`	`grin`
`18:05.49`	`pastamancer`	`"do... do you want a hug?"`
`18:05.52`	`cogwheel`	`lol`
`18:05.57`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`18:06.03`	`JoshBorke`	`nevcairiel: i think one of Iriel's examples for the state headers is what i mentioned, teh 1`
`18:06.08`	`JoshBorke`	`s/1/1-1/`
`18:06.24`	`nevcairiel`	`hm, i didnt see that example then`
`18:06.47`	`nevcairiel`	`beta is going down in 1h for maint, or?`
`18:07.45`	`nevcairiel`	`11:00 AM PST, i have no idea when that will be`
`18:07.52`	`JoshBorke`	`1 hour`
`18:08.03`	`nevcairiel`	`yay i guessed right :)`
`18:08.36`	`nevcairiel`	`maybe they are patching fatal error #132 finally .)`
`18:09.02`	`cogwheel`	`they do weekly maintenance on mondays for the beta`
`18:09.19`	`nevcairiel`	`i know, but they could still patch that bug`
`18:09.27`	`nevcairiel`	`slouken stated that it was already fixed internally`
`18:09.43`	`cogwheel`	`There are plenty of other things I want to see patched in too :)`
`18:09.57`	`nevcairiel`	`the "i cant walk" bug would be great too :P`
`18:10.58`	`JoshBorke`	`nevcairiel: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5492-State_Header_Action_Tests.html`
`18:11.21`	`nevcairiel`	`interesting`
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`18:22.21`	`krka`	`hm, considering going from DD-WRT to OpenWRT... anyone here know anything about it?`
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`18:27.42`	`Thardal`	`it doesnt fix crashing issues fyi`
`18:27.56`	`Thardal`	`just powercycle the stupid thing every 24h`
`18:28.41`	`MentalPower`	`crashing issues?`
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`18:28.48`	`MentalPower`	`I haven't had any crash issues`
`18:28.52`	`MentalPower`	`with my WRT`
`18:31.10`	`Thardal`	`it only happens if you have more than 10 clients, but then it happens all the time`
`18:31.42`	`Thardal`	`i had a system of them installed at the office i used to work and they used to crash at least once a week`
`18:32.03`	`Thardal`	`then i hooked them up to a digital power timer that cut the power each night from 3:00 to 3:01`
`18:32.08`	`Thardal`	`no more crashes`
`18:33.24`	`Kaso`	`isnt cutting the power to stop crashed killing the patient to cure the desease`
`18:33.32`	`MentalPower`	`yeah`
`18:33.33`	`pastamancer`	`I just rolled out a bunch of cisco aironets at work, they're great :)`
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`18:34.25`	`krka`	`Thardal: would rebooting be sufficient?`
`18:34.51`	`Thardal`	`no you have to clear the cache`
`18:35.06`	`krka`	`wouldn't this depend on hardware?`
`18:35.15`	`krka`	`or is this a problem in dd-wrt and openwrt software?`
`18:35.21`	`Thardal`	`its a problem in the hardware`
`18:36.10`	`krka`	`which hardware?`
`18:36.22`	`Thardal`	`the WRTG routers`
`18:36.32`	`krka`	`i see`
`18:36.46`	`krka`	`(had to ask, since dd-wrt and openwrt run on lots of different routers)`
`18:37.51`	`nevcairiel`	`does anyone know what happened to the Emerald Dream ? will that still be part of BC or was that only a rumor ?`
`18:38.09`	`Thardal`	`it wont`
`18:38.20`	`pastamancer`	`afaik, it's in limbo just like the azshara crater bg`
`18:38.51`	`Kaso`	`theres enough content in emerald dream to make a complete Xpack tbh`
`18:39.07`	`Thardal`	`the azshara thing is a lot more advanced, the emerald dream is just a terrain study with some objects thrown around`
`18:39.07`	`axxo`	`what do i win?`
`18:39.12`	`MentalPower`	`it will prolly be the new continent of the next explansion`
`18:39.14`	`Thardal`	`wowwiki it`
`18:39.37`	`Thardal`	`either emerald dream or northrend`
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`18:39.48`	`MentalPower`	`or both`
`18:39.53`	`Kaso`	`the azshara bg is pretty much ready to be implented isnt it Thardal`
`18:39.54`	`MentalPower`	`undermine is also pending`
`18:40.09`	`Kaso`	`maestrom as well :>`
`18:40.12`	`Kaso`	`northrend`
`18:40.22`	`Kaso`	`so many expansions`
`18:40.31`	`nevcairiel`	`one per year`
`18:40.33`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`18:40.49`	`Kaso`	`i wonder when wow will die`
`18:41.09`	`nevcairiel`	`we are in year 2, no wondering about death allowed`
`18:41.26`	`MentalPower`	`7.5mill subscribers and giving no indication of letting up`
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`18:42.53`	`Thardal`	`i dont think any other company is willing to invest the money it would need to take WoW down`
`18:42.59`	`Thardal`	`and if not even sony does it...`
`18:43.33`	`pastamancer`	`there are people still playing UO`
`18:44.19`	`MentalPower`	`there are people still playing muds, your point?`
`18:45.02`	`zenzelezz`	`you should never try to "take down" another MMO, at most aim to take them on`
`18:45.34`	`pastamancer`	`the point is that wow isn't dying any time soon`
`18:46.05`	`pastamancer`	`and that UO, one of the first MMORPGs is still running with paying subscribers`
`18:46.16`	`pastamancer`	`I think they had their 9th anniversary recently`
`18:46.47`	`Thardal`	`but they arent really alive`
`18:47.08`	`Thardal`	`its like 20 people sitting in the main city cybering with each other and reminiscing about when there used to be other people in the gam`
`18:47.23`	`Kaso`	`haha`
`18:47.35`	`Thardal`	`its like DAoC`
`18:47.37`	`pastamancer`	`oh, that's sad :(`
`18:48.00`	`Thardal`	`they have their twice a year event where old players get a free 1 week trial`
`18:48.06`	`Thardal`	`and every year it gets sadder`
`18:48.58`	`zespri_work`	`so give wow another 7 years and you may observe the same =)`
`18:49.40`	`zespri_work`	`I'm sure in 7 years time niew sexier titles will come out`
`18:50.08`	`MentalPower`	`possibly from Blizzard :P`
`18:50.31`	`zespri_work`	`yes, quite possible`
`18:55.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hrm`
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`18:59.34`	`thr`	`what's the format string to format a float with two decimals with string:format ?`
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`19:00.53`	`cogwheel`	`thr: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Bowden/C/printf.html`
`19:01.11`	`cogwheel`	`actually, this one has some examples: http://www.dgp.utoronto.ca/~ajr/209/notes/printf.html`
`19:02.10`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`whaaaa`
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`19:02.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`you have to buy flying mount training to get epic flying mount training as a druid`
`19:02.26`	`thr`	`so`
`19:02.43`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`flying form took the place of another spell in our spellbook`
`19:02.52`	`Xuerian`	`Mr_Rabies: 'Cause we don't have to 'mount' to fly.`
`19:02.55`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'd rather them remove it and give us a level 68 spell instead`
`19:03.11`	`Xuerian`	`Though we have to wait as long to, which is stupid.`
`19:03.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`the CMs told us we got flying mount training with flight form`
`19:03.49`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`wee another reason not to return for bc`
`19:04.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`keep piling them on and there won't be any of us left`
`19:05.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Druids will gain the flying mount riding skill with their form in the same way that warlocks and paladins gain riding skills with their summonable mounts. Druids will end up paying less for their epic flying mounts than anyone else.`
`19:06.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that was in october`
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`19:10.00`	`nevcairiel`	`did they up the flying form to 70 ?`
`19:10.11`	`nevcairiel`	`or did i understand something wrong here :)`
`19:10.51`	`End`	`I think it is staying the same`
`19:10.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`flight form is 68`
`19:10.56`	`End`	`in that regard`
`19:10.56`	`thr`	`cogwheel: meh i can't get it tow ork`
`19:11.08`	`cogwheel`	`%.2f`
`19:11.11`	`End`	`if it wasn't, there wouldn't be -any- point except flavor`
`19:11.14`	`thr`	`meh i suck at this ;(`
`19:11.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`but we were supposed to get regular flying skill with our flying form`
`19:11.56`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`currently we're not, and haven't gotten any responses on the matter`
`19:11.57`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`which until otherwise stated, means it's staying that way`
`19:12.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`4 spells for druids in bc, 5 for everyone else`
`19:12.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`oh well pallies get 6`
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`19:22.39`	`cogwheel`	`thr: string.format("%.2f", 3.141592653589793238462643) == "3.14"`
`19:23.08`	`cogwheel`	`wb Iriel :)`
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`20:10.06`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all !`
`20:10.39`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone I could bother to help me a bit with secure templates ? having problems :p`
`20:14.08`	`cogwheel`	`"just ask" ;)`
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`20:16.49`	`cncfanatics`	`http://ace.pastey.net/2575`
`20:16.49`	`cncfanatics`	`was making a pastey :p`
`20:17.00`	`cncfanatics`	`that code ain't working for some reason`
`20:17.36`	`Jaxine`	`hey cogwheel`
`20:17.55`	`cncfanatics`	`think u can help cogwheel ? :p`
`20:18.00`	`cncfanatics`	`its stance remapping code basicly`
`20:18.04`	`cogwheel`	`maybe...`
`20:18.13`	`jaxdahl`	`to all, are there any flying mount that are summoned (rather than using an item)`
`20:18.30`	`Mery`	`(druids)`
`20:18.41`	`jaxdahl`	`druids don't have mounts`
`20:18.43`	`Kaso`	`druids cast a spell, but it isnt summoning per say`
`20:18.51`	`cncfanatics`	`i'd say warlocks & pala's`
`20:19.03`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel, am I getting the secure code examples totaly wrong or ??`
`20:19.09`	`jaxdahl`	`cncfanatics, i have seen nothing of the sort`
`20:19.12`	`Kaso`	`warlocks and paladins do not get free flying mounts`
`20:19.21`	`jaxdahl`	`wasn't asking if it was free`
`20:19.32`	`Kaso`	`well they dont get flying mounts of any kind`
`20:19.34`	`jaxdahl`	`do they get a mount that goes in their spell book or not`
`20:19.36`	`jaxdahl`	`ok`
`20:19.40`	`cogwheel`	`eeek.... combining two different states could get a bit scary`
`20:19.51`	`Kaso`	`only spell one is: http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=33943`
`20:19.53`	`cogwheel`	`s/states/state types/`
`20:20.02`	`jaxdahl`	`it will suck for paladins/locks to make a macro for mounts`
`20:20.08`	`cncfanatics`	`u mean the stealth part ?`
`20:20.13`	`jaxdahl`	`since you /use flying mounts and /cast land mounts`
`20:20.22`	`jaxdahl`	`is there any way to mix the two?`
`20:20.57`	`cncfanatics`	`either way cogwheel, is the code itself right ?`
`20:20.57`	`jaxdahl`	`can you do /use [canfly] Flying Mount; /cast [nocanfly] Summon Charger`
`20:21.33`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: patience, young padawan`
`20:21.58`	`cncfanatics`	`i've been trying to get it to work since weeks now -.- getting anoying :p`
`20:21.59`	`cogwheel`	`:P`
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`20:23.58`	`Kaso`	`jaxdahl i dont think there's an easyway to do that`
`20:24.13`	`Kaso`	`perhaps beg Slouken`
`20:24.21`	`jaxdahl`	`if they add the qualifier, they should call it 'flyzone'`
`20:24.26`	`jaxdahl`	`so you have flyzone and noflyzone :)`
`20:24.37`	`Kaso`	`ha`
`20:25.08`	`Kaso`	`i guess the reverse could be useful for druids`
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`20:28.51`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`20:28.53`	`jaxdahl`	`what are flying mounts called in game now?`
`20:29.08`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: I'm not quite sure what you're trying to accomplish with the two different "statemap" attributes for each type (stance/stealth). You should only have one statemap per type. The suffixes are mouse buttons, not state numbers. "statemap-stealth" should be "0:3;1:7".`
`20:30.06`	`cncfanatics`	`ignore the stealth part for now -.-`
`20:30.12`	`cncfanatics`	`didn't actualy test it or read about it`
`20:30.16`	`cogwheel`	`well, the same goes for the stance part`
`20:30.24`	`cncfanatics`	`how should it be written ?`
`20:30.25`	`cogwheel`	`statemap-stance-# is meaningless`
`20:30.32`	`cogwheel`	`it shouldn't be there at all`
`20:30.46`	`cncfanatics`	`what shld I be writing then ? -.-`
`20:30.55`	`cogwheel`	`just remove that`
`20:31.06`	`cogwheel`	`you should only have the statemap-stance $input`
`20:31.25`	`cncfanatics`	`ok, what else ?`
`20:31.31`	`cogwheel`	`...`
`20:31.37`	`cncfanatics`	`nothing else ? :p`
`20:31.41`	`cogwheel`	`you have to do some of the footwork...`
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`20:31.58`	`cncfanatics`	`i would if I could understand how all this stuff works`
`20:32.23`	`cogwheel`	`look at cogsbar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5977`
`20:33.05`	`ckknight`	`anyone happen to have enUS TBC patches? I'm at 6022 and trapped behind a firewall`
`20:33.54`	`cogwheel`	`I deleted all mine, recently :(`
`20:35.15`	`cogwheel`	`oooh... recycle bin 4tw`
`20:35.20`	`cogwheel`	`ckknight: i'll give you a link in a sec`
`20:35.37`	`cncfanatics`	`so, coghweel, when the stance changes, SecureStateDriverTemplate does a setattribute call to change the button state, then SecureActionButtonTemplate uses statebutton to choose what attributes to use ?`
`20:36.13`	`Kaso`	`man these Socketed Items are pissing me off, i think im gonna write and addon to simpify the tooltips on them`
`20:36.15`	`ckknight`	`cogwheel, yay!`
`20:38.00`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: basically, yep`
`20:38.14`	`Antiarc`	`Kaso: How so?`
`20:38.57`	`cncfanatics`	`finaly, i start to understand this shit`
`20:39.22`	`cncfanatics`	`with my current code, I think just removing some useless setattributes would work`
`20:39.32`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: that's about where I was a month ago :P`
`20:39.34`	`Mery`	`oh btw jaxdahl if you wanted to know for the macro: "* Item names can be used interchangably with spell names in /cast, /castrandom, and /castsequence"`
`20:39.46`	`cncfanatics`	`...`
`20:39.58`	`cncfanatics`	`now if only the beta servers would be up`
`20:40.24`	`cncfanatics`	`blocked on authenticating`
`20:41.36`	`cogwheel`	`it's beta maintenance day`
`20:41.40`	`Kaso`	`Antiarc its hard to compare and item with 21 dmg and 4dmg + 3 crit and 4dmg + 3 crit and 4dmg + 3 crit to an item with 35 damage and 11 crit`
`20:41.43`	`Kaso`	`or whatever`
`20:41.54`	`Kaso`	`it'd be nice if the similar bonuses were grouped together`
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`20:46.55`	`zenzelezz`	`oh my... listening to guild try Patchwerk on TS can be exciting`
`20:47.03`	`Antiarc`	`Uh, whoa.`
`20:47.09`	`Antiarc`	`Unless I'm reading this wrong...`
`20:47.13`	`zenzelezz`	`"Let me make this perfectly clear... you heal NO-ONE but the person I tell you"`
`20:47.19`	`Antiarc`	`Slouken just re-enabled decursive.`
`20:47.25`	`Antiarc`	`http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/48694952.htm`
`20:47.48`	`Antiarc`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:47.50`	`Antiarc`	`Proceed to spam.`
`20:48.03`	`Antiarc`	`It isn't QUITE decursive since it will require a keypress to advance past non-afflicted people`
`20:48.11`	`Antiarc`	`But it's a single-spam decurse macro.`
`20:48.19`	`cogwheel`	`That's nothing you wouldn't be able to with state headers anyway...`
`20:48.20`	`Antiarc`	`err, single-press spammable decurse macro.`
`20:48.35`	`cogwheel`	`just have a different state for each raid member and switch to the next one on click`
`20:48.40`	`Antiarc`	`That's true.`
`20:48.48`	`Antiarc`	`Huh.`
`20:48.58`	`cogwheel`	`The reason it's OK is that it's not intelligent. It can't pick people based on priority, or anything like that`
`20:49.32`	`Antiarc`	`So I guess that's our stopgap for Chromaggus/Noth`
`20:49.42`	`Antiarc`	`Since you don't need priority there so much as you need spammable decurses.`
`20:49.52`	`Antiarc`	`Priority can be done through /focus, though for just one target.`
`20:50.18`	`pastamancer`	`you could /target unit /cast dispell anyways`
`20:50.34`	`pastamancer`	`I don't see it as a major change`
`20:50.56`	`cogwheel`	`it doesn't add any functionality that didn't already exist... just made it macroable instead of needing an addon`
`20:52.03`	`Antiarc`	`Fair enough`
`20:53.50`	`zenzelezz`	`heh... sounds like some of our healers just don't understand the "don't heal anything except your assigned target"`
`20:55.22`	`Mikma`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34204739&sid=1&pageNo=3 <- lol, go slouken, go cladhaire`
`21:02.21`	`JoshBorke`	`hola!`
`21:02.28`	`a-stray-cat`	`hello.`
`21:03.13`	`Antiarc`	`Howdy.`
`21:04.44`	`cncfanatics`	`cogwheel, do u think this will work ?`
`21:04.50`	`cncfanatics`	`http://ace.pastey.net/2578`
`21:04.51`	`JoshBorke`	`so, talking about state headers and a way around the logic stuff`
`21:06.38`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: looks about right (though i'm not a computer so i can't say for certain :P )`
`21:07.28`	`JoshBorke`	`can you use stealthed cat form?`
`21:07.33`	`JoshBorke`	`as a state?`
`21:07.54`	`JoshBorke`	`can states be changed programmatically?`
`21:08.15`	`cncfanatics`	`same question`
`21:08.21`	`cncfanatics`	`how wld i make a custom 7 stance for a stealthed cat ?`
`21:08.27`	`JoshBorke`	`i don't think you can`
`21:09.13`	`cogwheel`	`combining state types together is tricky business. you have stealthed as one state & stance as another`
`21:09.13`	`cncfanatics`	`wldnt it be possible by changingstate with the stealth header?`
`21:09.13`	`pastamancer`	`isn't prowl a separate stance already?`
`21:09.13`	`cncfanatics`	`no pastamancer`
`21:09.13`	`cogwheel`	`pastamancer: no`
`21:09.18`	`JoshBorke`	`you can't tell the state header to change programmatically, can you?`
`21:09.44`	`cogwheel`	`JoshBorke: no. the whole point of the state headers is that they operate in precise, predefined ways`
`21:09.55`	`JoshBorke`	`exactly. so you can't have your own custom states`
`21:10.03`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm`
`21:10.14`	`cncfanatics`	`you cld tell it to change states on stealth right ?`
`21:10.15`	`cogwheel`	`you can have custom states but you can't have a custom method of entering a given state`
`21:10.30`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: yes, but it would also change state when you went into shadowmeld`
`21:10.38`	`cncfanatics`	`not a problem`
`21:10.57`	`cncfanatics`	`I could have it only change when the state is already 3 right ? (cat form)`
`21:11.00`	`JoshBorke`	`cogwheel: following the same scheme as the macros, right?`
`21:11.16`	`cogwheel`	`JoshBorke: actually, the macros are following the state headers :P`
`21:11.23`	`pastamancer`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&sid=1&pageNo=18`
`21:11.26`	`JoshBorke`	`well, yea :-D`
`21:11.31`	`JoshBorke`	`whatever :-P-`
`21:11.37`	`pastamancer`	`looks useful`
`21:11.45`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: not that i know of...`
`21:11.58`	`cogwheel`	`though Iriel may know better ;)`
`21:12.00`	`cncfanatics`	`3:7 wld change to 7 only if the state was already 3 , no ?`
`21:12.15`	`cogwheel`	`no. that's what I was trying to explain to you earlier`
`21:12.28`	`cogwheel`	`that is a grave misunderstanding of the statebutton attribute`
`21:13.06`	`cogwheel`	`pastamancer: hmm... that's interesting...`
`21:13.11`	`cncfanatics`	`(btw, my code still doesn't work :/)`
`21:13.16`	`cogwheel`	`i'm not quite sure if that would work as advertised`
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`21:13.25`	`cogwheel`	`cncfanatics: lern2debug :P`
`21:13.32`	`cncfanatics`	`i have no clue what doesn't work :/`
`21:13.41`	`cncfanatics`	`and the attributes my debug code returns look fine`
`21:13.51`	`JoshBorke`	`why are you using i multiple times in a name?`
`21:14.18`	`cncfanatics`	`n contains what attribute it is`
`21:14.28`	`cncfanatics`	`like "action" , "type" , "spell" or whatever`
`21:14.42`	`JoshBorke`	`hm`
`21:15.12`	`cncfanatics`	`and the place where its used multiple times is debug`
`21:15.24`	`cncfanatics`	`btw, my attributes are set like this by my code:`
`21:15.45`	`cncfanatics`	`statebutton is "0:Stance0;1:Stance1;"`
`21:16.28`	`cncfanatics`	`action-Stance1 is "13"`
`21:16.41`	`cncfanatics`	`type-Stance1 is "action"`
`21:16.44`	`JoshBorke`	`i haven't done any work with that stuff`
`21:16.47`	`JoshBorke`	`so i can't really say`
`21:17.07`	`cncfanatics`	`action-Stance0 is "1" & type-Stance0 is "action"`
`21:17.13`	`cncfanatics`	`but nothing is changing when i stealth my rogue -.-`
`21:17.46`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm sure i'm forgetting something, but what :(`
`21:18.13`	`nevcairiel`	`do you set statebutton to "$input" as well?`
`21:18.19`	`cncfanatics`	`yea ofc`
`21:18.32`	`nevcairiel`	`eh`
`21:18.35`	`nevcairiel`	`statemap-input`
`21:18.37`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`21:18.40`	`cncfanatics`	`yea, ment that too hehe`
`21:18.42`	`nevcairiel`	`bah`
`21:18.44`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm actualy`
`21:18.45`	`nevcairiel`	`statemap-stance`
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`21:18.47`	`cncfanatics`	`statemap-stance`
`21:18.47`	`nevcairiel`	`i am confused`
`21:18.55`	`nevcairiel`	`been a weird day`
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`21:19.27`	`cncfanatics`	`anything else i'd need to add ?`
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`21:31.07`	`JoshBorke`	`you want it to cycle between states, right?`
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`21:31.21`	`JoshBorke`	`well, he left...`
`21:31.51`	`Shadowed`	`about 5 minutes ago =p`
`21:32.04`	`Shadowed`	`oh hey`
`21:32.09`	`Shadowed`	`another "OMG HEALER CLASSES SUCK IN TBC"`
`21:32.59`	`Kaso`	`hm?`
`21:33.25`	`Shadowed`	`nothing, just admiring the new stupidity in forums`
`21:33.55`	`Kaso`	`why do we suck then?`
`21:34.00`	`Kaso`	`(allegily)`
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`21:34.15`	`Shadowed`	`I think you can guess why :p`
`21:34.27`	`Shadowed`	`Something about to much curing going on`
`21:34.53`	`Thunder_Child`	`maybe we can bribe blizz to give us the adresses of the ppl whineing, then we can put together a multi-national group of "beat the shit out of whiners group" or BSWG`
`21:35.07`	`Shadowed`	`which I can't respond to because I can't seem to type my password correctly on forums :(`
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`21:42.54`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
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`21:45.04`	`grimman\|`	`Thunder_Child: If you make that group handle "first"-posters I'll file my application first thing in the morning.`
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`21:52.25`	`Shadowed`	`hrm`
`21:52.30`	`Shadowed`	`anyone having issues logging into the forums?`
`21:52.32`	`JoshBorke`	`oink`
`21:52.44`	`cogwheel`	`Shadowed: is it your billing day?`
`21:52.45`	`grimman\|`	`Shadowed: Didn't you change your password recently or was that someone else?`
`21:53.06`	`Shadowed`	`It shouldn't be, but i'll check that.`
`21:53.10`	`grimman\|`	`JoshBorke: You remind me of someone.`
`21:53.12`	`Shadowed`	`grimman\|: nope`
`21:53.26`	`Shadowed`	`but billing day would be it I bet`
`21:53.46`	`JoshBorke`	`oh yea? who's that?`
`21:53.59`	`grimman\|`	`Miss Piggy? :P`
`21:54.13`	`cogwheel`	`XD`
`21:54.19`	`Shadowed`	`heh`
`21:54.24`	`Shadowed`	`second account works, so yeah. it must be billing`
`21:54.34`	`JoshBorke`	`why 2 accounts?`
`21:54.48`	`grimman\|`	`Signs of a true addict.`
`21:54.55`	`JoshBorke`	`grimman\|: =(`
`21:55.25`	`Shadowed`	`I don't use it that much actually, i'll probably deactivate it once I can transfer my Priest back over. It was just nice to be able to play an alt during the old days of 40-50 minute WSG queues.`
`21:56.41`	`Guillotine`	`I have a strange request`
`21:56.51`	`Guillotine`	`does anyone know where i can get a list of swear words in english?`
`21:57.04`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O`
`21:57.07`	`Shadowed`	`google ( and the wikipedia ) know all`
`21:57.11`	`Guillotine`	`I'm making an addon to filter words before you send them so that people don't get banned`
`21:57.18`	`Guillotine`	`so its not that wierd, but...`
`21:57.28`	`Industrial`	`yeah`
`21:57.35`	`Shadowed`	`Anyone know the correct name for the slime boss in AQ40? Vidscious or something?`
`21:57.40`	`JoshBorke`	`you can't say "bingo, bango, bongo"`
`21:57.47`	`Industrial`	`google.com/search?q=list+of+english+swear+words`
`21:57.51`	`JoshBorke`	`in wow, it bleeps out bong`
`21:57.51`	`Industrial`	`;P`
`21:57.58`	`Shadowed`	`nm!`
`21:58.04`	`Guillotine`	`Shadowed: I checked wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity is pretty cool. swear words in about 12 different languages`
`21:58.06`	`Guillotine`	`but no english`
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`21:58.12`	`Shadowed`	`odd`
`21:59.03`	`JoshBorke`	`what do you guys think of this as a name for a mod? RaidCast?`
`21:59.23`	`a-stray-cat`	`http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profanity lol`
`21:59.25`	`pastamancer`	`it's deliciously ambiguous`
`21:59.39`	`Thunder_Child`	`JoshBorke whats the point of the mod?`
`21:59.53`	`JoshBorke`	`i'm writing a mod that is similar to ArcanePartyBars. it'll display castbars for anyone in your raid`
`22:00.13`	`Thunder_Child`	`only for raids?`
`22:00.33`	`JoshBorke`	`technically it'll support the party too, but AL is already writing one of those`
`22:00.35`	`Industrial`	`ahh i read the dutch part of the wikipedia profanity`
`22:00.36`	`Industrial`	`its so funny`
`22:00.37`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`22:01.06`	`AnduinLothar`	`already written. it's in the Cosmos Beta distro, till I add slash commands`
`22:01.17`	`JoshBorke`	`AnduinLothar: raid or party?`
`22:01.26`	`AnduinLothar`	`party only`
`22:01.50`	`AnduinLothar`	`I may write a raid one, depends on how well yours comes out`
`22:02.41`	`JoshBorke`	`mine will most definitely be shitty :-P`
`22:02.41`	`Thunder_Child`	`does everyone have to have it to track?`
`22:02.41`	`JoshBorke`	`but i know how i'm going to do the configuration!`
`22:02.41`	`JoshBorke`	`Thunder_Child: to be completely accurate yes, but it'll work marginally well without everyone having it`
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`22:03.05`	`JoshBorke`	`for the configuration i'm going to use the same format as the DevTools event filtering`
`22:03.15`	`AnduinLothar`	`it works fine with 1 cleint. you get target and hostility infor from other people that have PartyCastingBars tho`
`22:03.41`	`JoshBorke`	`PCB's are bad, haven't you heard that?`
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`22:03.54`	`AnduinLothar`	`'fun' is what i heard`
`22:03.59`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`22:05.13`	`JoshBorke`	`AnduinLothar: how are you handling AoE?`
`22:05.29`	`AnduinLothar`	`no target name`
`22:05.44`	`JoshBorke`	`SS?`
`22:05.44`	`AnduinLothar`	`but actually`
`22:05.49`	`AnduinLothar`	`I'm nto handling it`
`22:06.06`	`AnduinLothar`	`it jsut passed the target fromt he event`
`22:06.16`	`AnduinLothar`	`so whatever the event says is the target is what's displayed`
`22:06.17`	`Thunder_Child`	`AnduinLothar i am looking over your ArcaneParyBars and how much space do the bars take up?`
`22:06.42`	`AnduinLothar`	`they're fairly large by default. khaos has scaling options`
`22:06.50`	`AnduinLothar`	`and they're draggable`
`22:06.59`	`AnduinLothar`	`er`
`22:07.05`	`Thunder_Child`	`it would be nice to combine them with other things to remove clutter`
`22:07.09`	`AnduinLothar`	`in PartyCastingBars`
`22:07.21`	`AnduinLothar`	`ArcaneParyBars doesn't have scale options`
`22:07.35`	`AnduinLothar`	`ArcaneParyBars is going bye bye come 2.0`
`22:07.59`	`AnduinLothar`	`combine with what tho`
`22:09.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`For example could you not mask the defaults unit frames class icon with a circular cast bar and have the timer text in the center?`
`22:10.10`	`AnduinLothar`	`if I wrote my own custom circular statusbar from scratch`
`22:10.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`and then where do you put target info?`
`22:10.55`	`AnduinLothar`	`and spell icon`
`22:11.19`	`Thunder_Child`	`spell icon could be put in there also, target...well that could be to the side since it doesnt take up that much space`
`22:11.46`	`AnduinLothar`	`it's possible, but no where near as simple as using the cast bar templates`
`22:11.57`	`Thunder_Child`	`never said it was simple`
`22:12.01`	`Thunder_Child`	`just more compact`
`22:12.28`	`AnduinLothar`	`I have plenty of room on my screen in a party. it's raid that fills it all up`
`22:13.24`	`AnduinLothar`	`but it's a decent idea`
`22:14.28`	`Guillotine`	`is it possible to make gsub case insensitive for the input value? if I just did string.lower, the entire string would be lowered which I don't want. only to replace a couple words no matter the case`
`22:14.40`	`Thunder_Child`	`well as my screen alway filled up so it's soemthing i try to keep in mind`
`22:15.00`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/alway filled.always fills/`
`22:15.26`	`cladhaire`	`Guillotine: Bulild your pattern, then make it case insensitive [Ll][Ii][Kk][Ee] [Tt][Hh][Ii][Ss]`
`22:15.44`	`cladhaire`	`you can capture the replacements too, etc. lots of fun tricks =)`
`22:15.50`	`JoshBorke`	`Guillotine: [Yy][Oo][Uu] [Cc][Aa][Nn] [Dd][Oo] [Ss][Oo][Mm][Ee][Tt][Hh][Ii][Nn][Gg] [Bb][Aa][Hh]!`
`22:16.02`	`Guillotine`	`cladhaire: I'm trying to make it a dynamic pattern changable by the user`
`22:16.08`	`Guillotine`	`and would rather not have them have to type that out`
`22:16.11`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`22:16.13`	`cladhaire`	`i didn't say that =)`
`22:16.17`	`cladhaire`	`have them build a pattern`
`22:16.22`	`AnduinLothar`	`make a function that outputs that caseinsensitive code`
`22:16.26`	`cladhaire`	`then use a function to transform the pattern to what you need`
`22:16.38`	`Guillotine`	`hmm. that works`
`22:16.48`	`AnduinLothar`	`this is what happens when 3 peopel try to answer the same question`
`22:17.07`	`Guillotine`	`or I could string.lower it, then find the index of the characters and replace that place in the original`
`22:18.37`	`cladhaire`	`depends on the sub you'r edoing`
`22:19.57`	`cladhaire`	`hahah my hunter is wearing shaman shoulders.`
`22:20.02`	`cladhaire`	`the really ugly ones =)`
`22:20.16`	`grimman\|`	`Real hunters laugh at people like you. ;P`
`22:20.16`	`a-stray-cat`	`the ones where it looks like you took a bunch of insect legs and pasted them on?`
`22:20.41`	`cladhaire`	`its nasty green loot, or hunter shoulders =)`
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`22:28.17`	`JoshBorke`	`you never answered my question!`
`22:28.27`	`cladhaire`	`who?`
`22:28.35`	`JoshBorke`	`everyone!`
`22:28.35`	`cladhaire`	`yes.. boys have a penis, girls have a vagina`
`22:29.10`	`JoshBorke`	`i'm writing a mod that'll display castbars for anyone in your raid. should i name it RaidCast? or does anyone else have a witty name for it?`
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`22:30.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`does is display useless info like hearth's?`
`22:30.41`	`JoshBorke`	`never used hearth`
`22:30.52`	`Thunder_Child`	`hearth stones....`
`22:31.18`	`Shadowed`	`Thunder_Child, I would hope people aren't usinghearth stones enough in your raids that it's an issue :p`
`22:31.20`	`Thunder_Child`	`maybe it's herth..`
`22:31.25`	`JoshBorke`	`oh, it'll be configurable. you can set it to only show you when a priest cast smite or when mages cast arcane missiles`
`22:31.35`	`Thunder_Child`	`my point is does it display useless info?`
`22:31.37`	`Shadowed`	`mages use arcane missiles?`
`22:31.53`	`JoshBorke`	`Thunder_Child: only if you tell it to`
`22:31.58`	`Thunder_Child`	`ok`
`22:32.02`	`Shadowed`	`it's "Hearthstone" btw`
`22:32.13`	`Thunder_Child`	`maybe CastTracker .....hmmm`
`22:32.26`	`Thunder_Child`	`but that then seems like "your" casting`
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`22:33.06`	`Thunder_Child`	`is there going to be a bar for each person in the raid?`
`22:33.29`	`JoshBorke`	`there can be. i plan on it being configurable such that people can write display modules for it`
`22:34.57`	`Thunder_Child`	`the problem always seems to be space`
`22:36.00`	`JoshBorke`	`Thunder_Child: i'm imagining someone writing a display module that'll just show how many casts are on a target`
`22:38.15`	`Thunder_Child`	`crap looks like 2.X will be put in tomorrow`
`22:38.21`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O`
`22:38.30`	`cogwheel`	`O.O`
`22:38.34`	`JoshBorke`	`BS!`
`22:38.40`	`cogwheel`	`SS or it didn't happen`
`22:38.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`well it does say that all realms will be down tomorrow`
`22:38.56`	`cogwheel`	`...`
`22:38.59`	`JoshBorke`	`tomorrow is tuesday`
`22:39.00`	`cogwheel`	`tomorrow's tuesday...`
`22:39.03`	`JoshBorke`	`maintenance?`
`22:39.09`	`Thunder_Child`	`but they dont normaly say that`
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`22:39.47`	`cogwheel`	`They've had that as a notice for at least a few months...`
`22:40.22`	`Thunder_Child`	`not lately`
`22:40.32`	`JoshBorke`	`why is coming up with names for mods the hardest part?`
`22:40.49`	`cogwheel`	`Sure they have... They've also been doing a bunch of extended maintenance so you may have missed it...`
`22:40.51`	`Thunder_Child`	`CastCatcher`
`22:40.53`	`grimman\|`	`It's not illegal to just name it after what it does. ;P`
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`22:48.09`	`JoshBorke`	`recommendations from guildies: Raid Voyeur`
`22:48.40`	`AnduinLothar`	`mreh`
`22:50.24`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Ping`
`22:50.37`	`SB1-Work`	`Yeah, so`
`22:50.52`	`SB1-Work`	`I just got a frantic call from someone saying that their computer wasn't working`
`22:50.59`	`SB1-Work`	`Then I got another call on my cell phone stating the same thing`
`22:51.06`	`SB1-Work`	`And then four more calls in the next three minutes`
`22:51.45`	`Mery`	`the power went out? =P`
`22:51.55`	`SB1-Work`	`Nope`
`22:51.58`	`SB1-Work`	`Server died!`
`22:52.08`	`SB1-Work`	`So I login to the server, and go to remove the USB drive connected`
`22:52.10`	`SB1-Work`	`And get this: http://www.petteylegal.com/~kylesb/serverlol.png`
`22:53.38`	`Kaso`	`JoshBorke just go the easy/boring rout of <intitial><one or two words describing mod>`
`22:53.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`no hd`
`22:55.34`	`JoshBorke`	`JRaidCastingBars?`
`22:57.00`	`Kaso`	`perfect!`
`22:57.01`	`zenzelezz`	`call it Magic Insight or something of the sort`
`22:57.05`	`Kaso`	`though dont use J i use that!`
`22:57.09`	`Kaso`	`use JB!`
`22:57.28`	`JoshBorke`	`ooo, Magic Insight`
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`23:04.35`	`JoshBorke`	`Caster Intuition? Caster Insight? Cast Sixth Sense?`
`23:04.35`	`Antiarc`	`Precog.`
`23:04.35`	`zenzelezz`	`"WTF u cast!?"`
`23:04.35`	`zenzelezz`	`that'd draw some attention`
`23:04.53`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
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`23:06.18`	`JoshBorke`	`bah! why can't irssi recognize net-joins!`
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`23:07.09`	`Maldivia`	`/tap`
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`23:08.35`	`Tuller`	`bleh, I forgot that the beta server is down on mondays`
`23:08.59`	`Maldivia`	`baah`
`23:09.13`	`JoshBorke`	`oink`
`23:09.46`	`Tuller`	`turtle!`
`23:09.48`	`JoshBorke`	`i know i know! The Patriot Act: Warcraft Style`
`23:11.06`	`cladhaire`	`Anyone played with WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame?`
`23:11.09`	`cladhaire`	`particularly with finding the bottom?`
`23:11.39`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, pong`
`23:12.05`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Was just wondering how much experience you have with the WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame from Jostle`
`23:12.14`	`cladhaire`	`or do you just move it down`
`23:12.40`	`ckknight`	`just move it down, afaik.`
`23:13.00`	`ckknight`	`if I even do that.`
`23:13.00`	`Maldivia`	`it's 4.12pm PST... the server should be up :\|`
`23:13.00`	`cladhaire`	`ok, i'm trying to find the bottom, and thats proving to be mnighty difficult =)`
`23:13.44`	`Maldivia`	`how so?`
`23:14.16`	`Thunder_Child`	`it's 3:14 pst`
`23:14.43`	`Thunder_Child`	`i know, i live here`
`23:14.52`	`Maldivia`	`PST or PDT ?`
`23:15.10`	`Thunder_Child`	`well it's PDT, but DS is back in sync atm`
`23:15.18`	`JoshBorke`	`Cide: Cast Insight?`
`23:15.29`	`Maldivia`	`hmm, weird...`
`23:15.41`	`Maldivia`	`the SOE time converter says 4.15`
`23:15.53`	`Cide`	`JoshBorke: are you implementing it for both heals and damage spells?`
`23:15.54`	`Thunder_Child`	`my clock says 3:15`
`23:16.10`	`Thunder_Child`	`i guess this is the out of sync time`
`23:16.14`	`Maldivia`	`Thunder: well, I don't trust sony, soo :)`
`23:16.34`	`Thunder_Child`	`what did they ever to do you?`
`23:16.50`	`JoshBorke`	`Cide: yea`
`23:16.53`	`JoshBorke`	`did i seriously put Cide at the front? lol, my bad`
`23:16.59`	`Cide`	`yes :P`
`23:17.00`	`JoshBorke`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:17.06`	`Thunder_Child`	`CIS`
`23:17.11`	`Thunder_Child`	`cast insight scanner`
`23:17.13`	`Cide`	`how are you doing the heals?`
`23:17.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`oh wait...thats csi`
`23:17.35`	`JoshBorke`	`CSI: Cast Scanning Insight`
`23:17.53`	`Maldivia`	`and it's ready next year... so CSI: NY`
`23:18.07`	`JoshBorke`	`Cide: for now i'm just doing the target passed from UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT`
`23:18.32`	`Cide`	`and send it through a channel?`
`23:18.44`	`AnduinLothar`	`so, lol. I'm doing a hw assignment for technical writing this qtr. it's basically to describe a change to a software app. So I'm documenting BankManager`
`23:18.46`	`JoshBorke`	`yea`
`23:19.01`	`AnduinLothar`	`i went to write the proposal and ended up proposing changes I hadn't coded`
`23:19.17`	`AnduinLothar`	`so now for the screen shots i'm recoding part of it lol`
`23:19.35`	`Maldivia`	`Thunder: think I'll start using http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=840 to get the correct time :)`
`23:20.22`	`Thunder_Child`	`why irvine?`
`23:20.45`	`cogwheel`	`Thunder_Child: that's where Blizzard Entertainment is located :P`
`23:21.02`	`Thunder_Child`	`might be better http://www.time.gov/`
`23:21.40`	`Maldivia`	`Because Blizzard is located in Irvine`
`23:22.18`	`Thunder_Child`	`~sigh`
`23:22.20`	`purl`	`sigh`
`23:22.20`	`tyroney\|work`	`Anyone familiar with state headers and have less than a minute?`
`23:22.29`	`cogwheel`	`I have less than a minute`
`23:22.32`	`cogwheel`	`XD`
`23:22.52`	`Maldivia`	`I'm familiar with state headers, but I have more than a minute, so sorry...`
`23:23.28`	`Tuller`	`potentially`
`23:23.48`	`JoshBorke`	`can i ask a question?`
`23:23.57`	`Maldivia`	`cogwheel: you mean: "Dont ask to ask, just ask"`
`23:24.04`	`cogwheel`	`yep`
`23:24.13`	`tyroney\|work`	`Got my hold-to-flip-bar mod working thanks to a long conversation with Iriel a while ago. I was wondering if someone could edit it to have non-redundant names for actions/states, as I'm still getting them confused as I try to grok its functioning. http://wowi.pastey.net/2579`
`23:24.41`	`Maldivia`	`cogwheel: My prefered respons to people, whispering tells with "Can I ask you a question?", is "You just did!"`
`23:24.44`	`tyroney\|work`	`I'm just not sure how much of a grasp people have of these so far. That and I like to at least pretend to be something resembling cordial.`
`23:25.30`	`tyroney\|work`	`Usually I paste my question fast enough that people don't have to give me grief about not asking it. I just forgot I had to edit it a bit from its first incarnation.`
`23:26.01`	`cogwheel`	`You mean you'd like some help giving it more descriptive names and such?`
`23:26.46`	`tyroney\|work`	`Just swapping it so that the states and the actions aren't named with the same "mup" and "mdn". I'm trying to walk through the way things work, and I keep getting all cornfused.`
`23:27.04`	`cogwheel`	`kk... sec`
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`23:27.57`	`Maldivia`	`Salutations, ohh great one ( Cairenn )`
`23:29.02`	`JoshBorke`	`purl, hug Cairenn`
`23:29.03`	`purl`	`ACTION hugs Cairenn tightly until Cairenn turns slightly blue`
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`23:29.11`	`Cairenn`	`:)`
`23:29.25`	`tyroney\|work`	`Once I know how the dumb thing works, I'll comment profusely, and try to share the knowledge, because knowing is half the battle.`
`23:29.37`	SP\|Sorren`	`tables in lua...start with [1]?`
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`23:29.55`	`cogwheel`	`a-stray-cat: yep`
`23:29.58`	`a-stray-cat`	`curses`
`23:30.05`	`Maldivia`	`a-stray-cat: tables (when working as array) are index from 1 and up, yes`
`23:30.05`	`cogwheel`	`you can make it start with [0] if you want`
`23:30.05`	`tyroney\|work`	`er, a[1] would be the first element of table a`
`23:30.18`	`tyroney\|work`	`And what they said.`
`23:30.19`	`a-stray-cat`	`oh well.`
`23:32.29`	`cogwheel`	`tyroney\|work: http://wowi.pastey.net/2590 Made the names more verbose... not sure if it'll help though...`
`23:32.39`	`JoshBorke`	`ope, time to go, bye all`
`23:33.00`	`cogwheel`	`(not really clear on what childstate does, tbh)`
`23:33.06`	`tyroney\|work`	`Aw, sure it will! Now I can go step through the secure*.lua code and have slightly less ambiguity to worry about.`
`23:33.43`	`tyroney\|work`	`darn.`
`23:34.08`	`tyroney\|work`	`I was afraid they weren't going to be redundant, but rather completely related.`
`23:34.54`	`JoshBorke`	`cladhaire: ping`
`23:35.38`	`cladhaire`	`hi`
`23:35.42`	`tyroney\|work`	`Maybe this question will do the trick: are the attributes with "action" in their name effectively the only ones that really matter for the onclick event? (the others all being state related)`
`23:35.46`	`Gryphen`	`heya`
`23:36.32`	`JoshBorke`	`wait, nvm, you're using lua for your wicked awesome zip script`
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`23:36.38`	`cladhaire`	`yeah, why?`
`23:36.44`	`cladhaire`	`its just shell scripting any way you do it.`
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`23:37.06`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, but my sed was screwing up so i decided to use a temporary file for it`
`23:38.02`	`cogwheel`	`tyroney\|work: yes. they tell the button what page to switch to when pressed with that particular "virtual button."`
`23:38.26`	`cogwheel`	`The other attributes are what determine which "virtual button" will be sent when you do actually click.`
`23:38.53`	`tyroney\|work`	`Ok. I need to spend some time in the secureanchorheader.lua or whatever that one is called.`
`23:40.51`	`tyroney\|work`	`Argh. I'm so close. I wish I wasn't at work right now.`
`23:45.28`	`ckknight`	`slugslinger's quit message is odd`
`23:45.40`	`ckknight`	`multiple personality disorder and schizophrenia are two very separate diseases`
`23:45.52`	`ckknight`	`in fact, you can't have MPD and schizophrenia at the same time`
`23:46.04`	`ckknight`	`or at least, it's never been observed to.`
`23:47.22`	`a-stray-cat`	`i think he's confused multiple personalities and just hearing voices`
`23:49.08`	`zenzelezz`	`neither me nor any of my other selfs find multiple personality disorder credible`
`23:50.19`	`a-stray-cat`	`the voices tell me that zenzelezz is lying.`
`23:50.29`	`a-stray-cat`	`all of him.`
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`23:54.25`	`ckknight`	`cogwheel, downloaded patches, finally`
`23:54.54`	`cogwheel`	`cool :) Let me know if i missed any`
`23:56.43`	`ckknight`	`doesn't look like it`
`23:56.48`	`ckknight`	`we'll find out soon enough`
`23:58.58`	`Maldivia`	`why not just install the "all in one" patch?`
`23:59.08`	`a-stray-cat`	`is there one for beta?`

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