| 00:00.55 | Mery | good night all |
| 00:12.21 | kaiden | Anyone know of a way to make bagnon color the borders around your quiver slots etc? or should i just wait til expansion and more bag addons are updated |
| 00:14.41 | Kaso | shouldnt be too hard to do |
| 00:18.46 | Kaso | BagnonFrame_HighlightSlots(Bagnon,i) |
| 00:18.57 | Kaso | where i is the index of your quivver |
| 00:19.33 | Kaso | then just throw that line in BagnonBag_OnShow() function i guess |
| 00:24.41 | jaxdahl | Maldivia, my BG downloader is still showing 468MB |
| 00:24.50 | jaxdahl | can you send me the link for the .torrent from your .log file? |
| 00:25.02 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 00:25.32 | Maldivia | http://80.239.178.131/background/WoW-1.12.2.6005-x86-Win-enGB-BKGND.torrent |
| 00:26.21 | jaxdahl | ah |
| 00:26.26 | jaxdahl | not the same client |
| 00:26.30 | jaxdahl | you're UK? |
| 00:26.50 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 00:26.53 | jaxdahl | nvm then |
| 00:26.57 | Maldivia | well, enGB client |
| 00:31.28 | ckknight | 1.12.2? |
| 00:31.39 | ckknight | seems odd to me |
| 00:32.15 | nevcairiel | whats so odd? |
| 00:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | If you have Azureus |
| 00:32.16 | ScytheBlade1 | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:W3URJVZH5T5B6OON3MQ67BJYEOARELBH |
| 00:32.43 | nevcairiel | EU got 1.12.2 for compat with spanish clients, US didnt get that patch. |
| 00:34.01 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:36.24 | MentalPower | wich makes my little trick of using the spanish client on my US server a bit broken ATM |
| 00:37.46 | zenzelezz | I find it a little odd that there (as far as I know) isn't a US Spanish client... aren't there quite a few Spanish speakers in the US? |
| 00:37.56 | MentalPower | yes there are |
| 00:38.32 | MentalPower | the majority of the people that asked for/use Auctioneer's spanish translations are in the US or play in US servers (latin america) |
| 00:39.05 | MentalPower | and no, there is no US spanish client |
| 00:39.58 | MentalPower | we saw a glimmer of hope with the new method of installing diferent locales of the WoW client in the expansion. but it turns out that they're "region locked" meaning that the language packs will only install on EU clients |
| 00:40.39 | zenzelezz | how peculiar... why such a lock? |
| 00:42.29 | MentalPower | dunno |
| 00:43.54 | Thardal | the us servers probably dont support changing languages |
| 00:43.59 | Thardal | the whole split is idiotic anyway |
| 00:46.12 | norgs | they don't want foreign languagers freaking out the white caucasians |
| 00:46.52 | MentalPower | actually they do |
| 00:46.59 | norgs | much better to offload them to a different server |
| 00:47.07 | MentalPower | err, support language changing that is |
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| 01:15.07 | blixem | what's the proper way to say 'not equal to' in an if statement in LUA? Can't seem to find it in the reference manual anywhere |
| 01:15.42 | blixem | ~= |
| 01:15.44 | blixem | ? |
| 01:16.27 | snurre- | != ? |
| 01:16.43 | blixem | != isn't an operator in LUA |
| 01:16.48 | blixem | that was my first guess |
| 01:18.31 | MentalPower | ~= |
| 01:18.49 | MentalPower | <=, >=, ==, ~= |
| 01:25.13 | norgs | http://www.lua.org/pil/3.2.html |
| 01:28.38 | Miravlix | I wonder if Blizzard is trying to enter the water Olympics with a Murloch team |
| 01:30.09 | blixem | thanks MP and norgs |
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| 01:57.45 | Kaso | guys guys! wifi is going to kill us all ! |
| 01:58.06 | ckknight | oh geez. |
| 01:58.15 | ckknight | not teh wifi! |
| 01:58.36 | Kaso | Dont kid yourself timmy, if a router ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you care about. |
| 01:58.46 | Kaso | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2461748,00.html |
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| 02:02.55 | Nom_ | lol |
| 02:03.23 | Kaso | i fear for humanity some times. |
| 02:04.00 | Nom_ | That's almost as bad as not installing a security patch because you want to wait until someone confirms that it works |
| 02:04.04 | Nom_ | I mean wtf |
| 02:04.23 | ckknight | mothers are paranoid |
| 02:04.26 | ckknight | that's all |
| 02:04.47 | Kaso | its not the mothers im concerned about, its the schools who are bowing down to them |
| 02:05.08 | ckknight | yea, that is an issue |
| 02:05.12 | ckknight | think of the wasted dollars. |
| 02:05.49 | Tain | Mother, tell your children not to walk my way. |
| 02:06.09 | Kaso | i think purple *could* cause brain damage, i propose we ban purple, we don know for sure purple's safe. |
| 02:06.38 | Nom_ | Salmon is definately hazardous to health when it comes in the form of a shirt |
| 02:06.50 | Nom_ | Now THAT is something I could get behind a ban for |
| 02:06.51 | Kaso | ha |
| 02:07.12 | Miravlix | Kaso: I hope you will never work with security |
| 02:07.41 | Kaso | you think my purple hating will get in the way? |
| 02:08.01 | Miravlix | No your cluelessness. :) |
| 02:08.23 | Kaso | well, you have to expand on that statement |
| 02:08.49 | Miravlix | You dont just install patches because its released in the profesional world |
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| 02:09.08 | Miravlix | For all you know the fix might open up 10 exploits you arent ready for |
| 02:10.05 | Kaso | i didnt say abouthing about the patches, that was Nom_ |
| 02:11.05 | ckknight | down with purple! |
| 02:11.06 | Nom_ | And that comes from years of customer service |
| 02:11.10 | Tain | It depends on the patch, but in a business environment you really need to test before you roll out. |
| 02:11.38 | Nom_ | I was once on the phone with a customer who refused to isntall the blaster patch because he wanted to check some web forums to make sure it fixed the problem |
| 02:11.46 | Nom_ | Meanwhile, his computer was restarting every 60 seconds |
| 02:12.00 | Tain | End-users are a different case. |
| 02:12.09 | Nom_ | Yeah, well that's what I was talking about |
| 02:12.25 | Nom_ | If it's a security patch on a border router of a major network, then you do your homework :) |
| 02:12.43 | Nom_ | This guy was just a tool tho :P |
| 02:12.51 | Nom_ | As far too many customers are |
| 02:12.57 | Tain | One thing a lot of people don't understand though is that patching in a business environment *is* a risk. |
| 02:13.03 | Tain | It's just a bigger risk not to. |
| 02:13.45 | Miravlix | It less than a month ago MS releaseda fix that opened up a can of worms |
| 02:14.06 | Tain | The one thing I don't like these days is you can barely get support if you're not at the latest patch levels for things. |
| 02:14.23 | Tain | And there are times where you don't want to install a patch, intentionally. |
| 02:15.11 | norgs | I patched IPB so i wouldn't get hacked and got hacked cause the patch had a massive hole in it |
| 02:15.24 | norgs | so there you go |
| 02:16.27 | MentalPower | ah yes, I remember that |
| 02:16.28 | Nom_ | Miravlix: Many years ago, Microsoft release a piece of software with more bugs and security flaws than anything which came before it |
| 02:16.31 | Nom_ | It was called 'Windows' |
| 02:19.07 | Miravlix | Uh dude |
| 02:19.14 | Miravlix | There was nothing to secure before |
| 02:19.28 | Miravlix | Internet wasnt invented and the BBS age was just starting |
| 02:19.35 | Nom_ | My statement isn't false. |
| 02:19.40 | Nom_ | Windows just had MORE of everything. |
| 02:19.44 | Nom_ | :) |
| 02:19.53 | ckknight | viruses from floppies |
| 02:20.05 | Nom_ | geez...don't read into it too much, it's a very simple statement |
| 02:20.43 | Tain | Nah, it's a very misleading statement. |
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| 02:20.55 | Nom_ | Hardly |
| 02:20.58 | Tain | It isn't a false statement, but it doesn't mean much standalone. |
| 02:21.09 | Tain | Without context it doesn't mean anything. |
| 02:21.27 | Nom_ | Tain is thinking in the right direction :P |
| 02:21.46 | Nom_ | I mean...Windows had more bugs than MS-DOS |
| 02:21.51 | Nom_ | In quantity |
| 02:22.05 | Nom_ | So my statement is accurate... |
| 02:22.06 | Nom_ | :D |
| 02:22.07 | Tain | But did it have more bugs than anything which came before it? I don't know if that is true. |
| 02:22.14 | Tain | Anyting from Microsoft, maybe. |
| 02:22.19 | Miravlix | Linux has more bugs than all the DOS versions combined |
| 02:22.38 | Tain | Linux doesn't enter into the equation yet though. |
| 02:22.50 | Tain | But we could look at System V, Minix, and a number of other things. |
| 02:22.51 | Miravlix | Its evolution |
| 02:22.52 | Nom_ | Miravlix: That's a very slippery slope however. It depends on what you consider to be 'linux' |
| 02:23.05 | Miravlix | Things is way bigger today |
| 02:23.20 | Nom_ | I don't think the number of bugs vs lines of code has gone up much |
| 02:23.24 | Nom_ | It's just a lot more lines of code |
| 02:23.28 | Miravlix | I was a Linux Pioneer back in the 0. 1. days |
| 02:23.38 | Tain | There's no way to validate that statement though, Nom. |
| 02:23.40 | Miravlix | And a kernel hacker |
| 02:24.05 | Tain | Whether or not the number of bugs vs lines of code has gone up is, without any more information, just opinion. |
| 02:24.35 | Nom_ | Hence I said "I don't think" |
| 02:24.57 | Miravlix | Even just kernel vs dos and system is so much bigger |
| 02:25.07 | Miravlix | that it has room for way more bugs |
| 02:25.24 | Miravlix | And the bigger something is the more bugs pr. code line it gets |
| 02:25.46 | Tain | The one thing you can say with absolute certainty is that there are more bugs in the world today than there were then. |
| 02:25.54 | Nom_ | If you stripped back the Linux Kernel to the point where it does just what the MSDOS code did, then you'd probably find it's just as, if not more stable. I doubt anyone could be bothered donig that however |
| 02:26.07 | Miravlix | No |
| 02:26.08 | Nom_ | Tain: But there are more lines of code in the world too |
| 02:26.16 | Miravlix | You cant say that its a false statement |
| 02:26.17 | Nom_ | Tain: Which would tend to support my hypothesis |
| 02:26.30 | Miravlix | You have to check code lines vs number of bugs |
| 02:26.43 | ckknight | I think yours was a conjecture, not a hypothesis |
| 02:26.47 | Miravlix | Then you have a correct way of talking about it and yes the world has gotten worse |
| 02:27.15 | Nom_ | I support another thing which I've yet to factor in is the number of hobbyist programmers |
| 02:27.18 | Miravlix | The human factor cant deal with the size of todays software projects so things get a lot worse |
| 02:28.00 | Nom_ | Not that professional programmers are necessarily better, but you have people writing what is considered "code" in MS Access and MS Excel |
| 02:28.03 | Nom_ | (VB) |
| 02:28.20 | Nom_ | meh |
| 02:28.21 | Tain | That's the issue of complexity of languages. |
| 02:29.23 | Nom_ | I'm just trying to avoid writing code documentation *sigh* |
| 02:29.32 | Tain | Just based on my own non-scientific methods I think bugs per line of code have gone up over the years substantially. |
| 02:30.14 | Miravlix | WoW the level 20 Dranai Shammy quest is evil |
| 02:30.51 | Nom_ | Do you have to kill kittens? |
| 02:30.57 | Nom_ | That would be so typically Alliance! |
| 02:30.58 | Miravlix | They give you one water breathing pot to get to a guy thats half a breath bar down in the water, then he gives you a quest and before you finish you have used up the pot and have to swim down to complete it |
| 02:31.32 | Miravlix | And he is covered in hostile Murlocs too |
| 02:31.40 | End | what is level 20? water totem? |
| 02:31.54 | Miravlix | Yeps |
| 02:32.08 | End | it was easy horde-side |
| 02:32.24 | End | iirc, it was just go to some water sources and "gather" some samples of water |
| 02:32.27 | End | or something like that |
| 02:32.49 | Miravlix | I got lucky and didnt pull agro so I quick clicked to get the next quest and swam for the surface |
| 02:32.54 | End | (I'm surprised you don't have the water breathing spell yet) |
| 02:32.58 | Miravlix | Then there I read what quest I had accepted |
| 02:33.17 | Tain | I made the mistake of my first character in WoW being Undead |
| 02:33.24 | Miravlix | Why are you supprised about that? |
| 02:33.35 | Miravlix | Do shamans even have a water breathing spell? |
| 02:33.39 | Miravlix | Its warlocks |
| 02:33.42 | End | shaman do |
| 02:33.48 | End | it requires a reagent though |
| 02:33.50 | Tain | After that I couldn't stand how fast other races lost breath. |
| 02:34.36 | End | ahh, you get it at level 22 |
| 02:35.04 | Miravlix | And I dont think we have a drop of the reg on starter island anyway |
| 02:35.56 | Nom_ | Undead rock :P |
| 02:36.05 | Miravlix | Ive played Dranai Shammy to level 20 and even while 25% of the starter area is exclusive Shammie content I still feel empty inside, it has moments |
| 02:36.32 | Miravlix | But the Belf Paladin I took to 20, wow, he was a joy to play and the stories and everything |
| 02:36.33 | Nom_ | I still want my damn BE Pally :~( |
| 02:40.16 | Miravlix | why? |
| 02:40.58 | Nom_ | My main in TBC is going to bea Belf Pally |
| 02:41.14 | jaxdahl | call them bloodknights, ok? |
| 02:42.02 | Miravlix | I bet the humans and dwarfs has an enslaved Naruu somewhere like the belfs |
| 02:43.11 | Nom_ | I'm going to attempt to level 1 -> 70 faster than the rest of my guild does 60 -> 70 |
| 02:43.17 | Nom_ | It's going to be a challenge |
| 02:44.00 | Nom_ | Farmed WC all last night on my mage to get some mail for him :) |
| 02:44.19 | Miravlix | Im retireing a 60 nelf druid because druids is unplayable in BC |
| 02:44.49 | Nom_ | really? |
| 02:45.01 | Nom_ | I heard Feral spec does uber damage now? |
| 02:45.11 | Miravlix | Damage is useless |
| 02:45.31 | Miravlix | Unless you want to be the third wheel to a raid |
| 02:45.42 | Nom_ | My druid is at about level 26 i think, and i've found him quite surviveably |
| 02:45.51 | Miravlix | Because everyone else is better too and you die to dot in pvp |
| 02:45.54 | Nom_ | However, I already see that pally is more surviveable lol |
| 02:46.08 | Nom_ | Concentration Aura + Holy Spec ftw |
| 02:46.20 | Miravlix | Lets talki 60 game not level 26 |
| 02:46.26 | Nom_ | Uninterruptable Heals = Win |
| 02:46.33 | Miravlix | and now level 70 with BC |
| 02:46.47 | Nom_ | Yeah, true but still :) |
| 02:47.09 | jaxdahl | mages and rogues have better escapability in my opinion, aside from shield+hearth |
| 02:47.26 | Nom_ | escapability != surviveability |
| 02:47.45 | Miravlix | I wnt to outlands |
| 02:47.54 | Nom_ | I'm talking about living through a fight, not running away from it |
| 02:47.57 | Miravlix | Got attacked by a warlock that dotted me before I ran off |
| 02:48.01 | Nom_ | in which case, pally wins hand down |
| 02:48.06 | Miravlix | Tried to shift out and heal but died to the dot |
| 02:48.13 | Miravlix | Thats how uber useless we are |
| 02:48.27 | Nom_ | err |
| 02:48.34 | Nom_ | can't you clear all warlock dots? |
| 02:48.38 | Nom_ | except for curse |
| 02:48.49 | Miravlix | I can only clear the curse |
| 02:48.52 | Miravlix | and thats one |
| 02:49.04 | Nom_ | as a pally? |
| 02:49.18 | Miravlix | Druid has remove curse, I forgot what pally can |
| 02:49.33 | Nom_ | aah, i thought you were talking about pally then |
| 02:49.56 | Nom_ | yeah, pally can heal magic, poison, disease..not sure about curse, but that's all but one |
| 02:49.56 | Miravlix | Bubble boys wouldnt have to run |
| 02:50.01 | Nom_ | exactly :P |
| 02:50.02 | jaxdahl | can't curse |
| 02:50.08 | jaxdahl | but can bubble out of curse |
| 02:50.33 | Nom_ | heh |
| 02:50.35 | Miravlix | Im a level 60 Commander in pvp gear |
| 02:50.41 | Miravlix | And my char is useless |
| 02:50.46 | Nom_ | Surprisingly, i've never seen a pally bubble+hearth in world pvp |
| 02:50.50 | Nom_ | But i'm sure it'll happen one day |
| 02:50.57 | End | I've seen quite a few |
| 02:51.11 | End | first was in the TMvSS battles back in the day |
| 02:51.13 | Miravlix | They bubble + hearth when a level 70 tries to kill a level 30 |
| 02:51.29 | Miravlix | They can fight when they are same level themself |
| 02:53.05 | Miravlix | Shamans sucks! |
| 02:53.36 | Nom_ | So easy to level weapon skills with pally too |
| 02:53.49 | Nom_ | crusader rocks for that |
| 02:53.52 | Miravlix | And seriusly a level 68 shaman tried to kill my druid and failed |
| 02:54.06 | Nom_ | Shamans get pwned against a few classes |
| 02:54.19 | Miravlix | But they are also limited fun in PvE |
| 02:54.20 | Nom_ | Shamans are rather effective against pally if they time their purges right |
| 02:54.49 | Nom_ | Nothing more annoying than having an expensive seal purged :P |
| 02:55.57 | |Shadow| | are there any addons that give a more visable notice when you've hooked a fish? |
| 02:56.11 | Miravlix | wtf the quest send me to gather water and the mobs there is dark orange |
| 02:56.11 | |Shadow| | like put a frame up and make a sound |
| 02:56.14 | Nom_ | There's a few fishing mods, yes |
| 02:56.26 | |Shadow| | i want something that puts a frame up of some sort |
| 02:56.29 | |Shadow| | or makes the screen flash |
| 02:56.31 | End | the ui doesn't get any indication when you hook a fish |
| 02:56.32 | |Shadow| | some visable warning |
| 02:56.43 | |Shadow| | aww |
| 02:56.47 | End | you used to, and might still be able to replace the caught fish sound |
| 02:57.43 | |Shadow| | :) |
| 02:59.58 | Nom_ | Replace it with a foghorn |
| 03:00.04 | Nom_ | And make sure it has +500% volume |
| 03:00.07 | Nom_ | That'll get your attention |
| 03:00.20 | |Shadow| | yea :P |
| 03:01.12 | |Shadow| | not gonna sleep tonight... |
| 03:01.15 | |Shadow| | just gonna...fish |
| 03:01.16 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:01.52 | Nom_ | I still need 150 points in fishing |
| 03:02.10 | Nom_ | I'm going BRD tonight to get my damn Burning Essence |
| 03:02.22 | |Shadow| | :P |
| 03:02.41 | Nom_ | Such a pain in the arse |
| 03:02.56 | Nom_ | Got a group to do that quest, and it turns out when we get there, that everyone needed one |
| 03:03.06 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:03.12 | Nom_ | So I run it like 3 times, and don't win the roll at all :( |
| 03:03.23 | |Shadow| | :( |
| 03:03.33 | Nom_ | Oh well, get the flarecore leggings tonight to attach them to, so I will get it tonight |
| 03:03.59 | Nom_ | Get my Ony cloak too...gotta farm mats for that :/ |
| 03:04.01 | zenzelezz | took me a while to get my second Burning Essence, but solved it by doing combined three-man Dark Coffer/Emperor runs with two friends |
| 03:04.13 | Nom_ | nice |
| 03:04.36 | Nom_ | Yeah, I'll need to do a second run too, but I want to get a decent head-slot itemf irst |
| 03:05.00 | |Shadow| | i'd rather shoot myself than go to brd |
| 03:05.17 | |Shadow| | it took me 18 runs to get from killing the golem lord, to finishing jailbreak... |
| 03:05.25 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 03:05.49 | |Shadow| | 3 attempts to kill angerforge... |
| 03:06.02 | |Shadow| | 13 attempts for the golem lord |
| 03:06.07 | |Shadow| | people kept ripping me off |
| 03:06.21 | Nom_ | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=18755 <-- ouchies that's a rare drop |
| 03:06.22 | |Shadow| | saying come to brd and we can kill him, then skipping him and logging out when they done the boss they want :| |
| 03:06.50 | Nom_ | Looks like Wizardweave Turban is about the best head slot i'll get for a while |
| 03:07.01 | Miravlix | One thing though alliance ghost wolf doesnt look as bad as horde |
| 03:07.03 | |Shadow| | then on jailbreak i made a group and we had just cleared the entire place, like a hour clearing and we all said "DONT TALK TO THE MARSHAL" because there was a guy on his way that needed the quest too |
| 03:07.12 | Miravlix | Dont know what is wrong with the hind legs of horde wolf |
| 03:07.15 | |Shadow| | so whats the answer to that? Roguesprintninjaquest ! |
| 03:07.19 | |Shadow| | :P |
| 03:07.23 | Miravlix | But thats the time I always quit shammmies |
| 03:07.32 | Miravlix | Cant deal with the hind leg animation |
| 03:07.52 | Nom_ | I've not done Jailbreak yet either |
| 03:08.27 | |Shadow| | lol tis a horrible quest |
| 03:08.41 | Miravlix | I wonder if Blizzard is going to insist on no fly to belf/dranai capitol |
| 03:09.14 | |Shadow| | why wont people be able to fly there? |
| 03:09.16 | Nom_ | Well, given you can't create a belf or drenei without the expac, probably |
| 03:09.17 | |Shadow| | that seems a bit weird |
| 03:09.30 | Miravlix | It requires a zoneing shift |
| 03:09.37 | Miravlix | For both of them they arent in the world |
| 03:09.56 | Miravlix | Seems they are run on the outlands servers |
| 03:10.36 | Miravlix | I dont think taxis can zone |
| 03:10.36 | |Shadow| | http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3743/wow2006112402461960mu8.jpg http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5806/wow2006112402462525qj9.jpg |
| 03:10.36 | |Shadow| | my tailoring outfit :) |
| 03:10.38 | Miravlix | Atleast the Belf teleporter is easy to use |
| 03:10.38 | |Shadow| | tailoring = fishing |
| 03:10.50 | Miravlix | But Dranai is 10 min boat wait' |
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| 03:11.46 | Miravlix | Hmm, can ghost wolf swim in live? |
| 03:13.19 | Miravlix | Druid travel from breaks on water, inns and boats, but dranai wolf breaks on inn and boats, but swim just fine |
| 03:13.43 | |Shadow| | i saw the new druid flight form on google video |
| 03:13.45 | |Shadow| | that looks crazy |
| 03:13.56 | |Shadow| | druid could just go bird form and fly straight upwards |
| 03:14.01 | |Shadow| | druids never get ganked anymore xD |
| 03:14.03 | Miravlix | They nerfed that to hell too |
| 03:14.26 | jaxdahl | they can't fly over water? |
| 03:14.38 | Thrae | Miravlix: Do the Shamans still get the speed bonus while swimming in Wolf? |
| 03:14.57 | Miravlix | They could have given us the ULTIMATE ESCAPE ARTIST tag and it would be worth playing it |
| 03:15.04 | Nom_ | shamans can always cast walk on water |
| 03:15.05 | Nom_ | so meh |
| 03:15.07 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:15.11 | Miravlix | But now, we get jack shit and we are total crap at fighting |
| 03:15.31 | Thrae | Nom_: Which is why I would find it odd Shamans would get another bonus swimming |
| 03:15.44 | Miravlix | I cant tell |
| 03:15.48 | Miravlix | No speed addon |
| 03:16.05 | Nom_ | It'll be like druid cat form i suspect |
| 03:16.11 | Nom_ | your speed will be sufficiently nerfed |
| 03:16.16 | Thrae | Druid Travel Form breaks because they DO have an Aquatic Form, and it works differently then Travel Form |
| 03:16.32 | Miravlix | Baah and shammies can talk while shaped |
| 03:16.34 | Miravlix | Druids cant |
| 03:16.50 | Miravlix | Hmm, actually not sure Ive tested that in BC |
| 03:17.00 | Thrae | Now that seems like a mistake |
| 03:17.05 | |Shadow| | shamans are so imba :( |
| 03:17.09 | |Shadow| | against casters |
| 03:17.14 | Thrae | Yeah I think it'd be cool if they took out that restriction with Druids |
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| 03:17.17 | Miravlix | Shammies is total crap |
| 03:17.19 | |Shadow| | which is like 70% of the game |
| 03:17.20 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:17.27 | Thrae | It causes more problems then it adds to the "atmosphere" |
| 03:17.54 | Thrae | Shamans are like Rogues, they can seem way more overpowered then they really are. |
| 03:18.11 | Thrae | Shamans have a lot of tools, like Rogues, to really PWN you if the situation is right. |
| 03:18.12 | Nom_ | Shamans are like warlocks |
| 03:18.24 | Nom_ | They pwn you if you're not a class built for killing them :) |
| 03:18.38 | |Shadow| | lol shamans just eat me |
| 03:18.46 | |Shadow| | because all i can do is spam instant casts |
| 03:18.46 | Thrae | THAT will definately change in 2.0 with the changes to Fear, et. all |
| 03:18.52 | |Shadow| | if i ever try and cast a spell they counter cast me |
| 03:19.04 | Miravlix | Shadow: Even my druid eats shammies |
| 03:19.05 | Nom_ | There is a cooldown man |
| 03:19.11 | Miravlix | So if you dont then learn 2 play |
| 03:19.20 | |Shadow| | shamans allways kill me :( |
| 03:19.29 | Nom_ | As A mage, I just fake cast like arcane missiles |
| 03:19.49 | Thrae | Hearthstone fake heal ;) |
| 03:19.49 | Nom_ | when they earth shock, I open up the big guns with like frostbolt, fire blast, CoC etc |
| 03:20.05 | Nom_ | Yeah, that won't work in 2.0 |
| 03:20.09 | Nom_ | Coz they can see what your'e casting |
| 03:20.15 | Miravlix | Thats because your scared of them and afraid to fight |
| 03:20.15 | Nom_ | So you have to cast a legit spell |
| 03:20.25 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:20.47 | Nom_ | arcane missiles is a legit spell, but i couldn't care less if the arcane school is locked down for X secodns |
| 03:20.56 | Nom_ | it's when teh frost school gets locked down that i'm in trouble |
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| 03:21.40 | Nom_ | I'm a frost-shatter build, so i'm all about getting them stuck in nova, and owning them with crits :) |
| 03:22.07 | |Shadow| | Nom_ same here |
| 03:22.17 | Nom_ | nothing more satisfying than a triple crit on someone |
| 03:22.29 | Nom_ | I've done it...frostbolt, fire blast and CoC all crit in the space of 1.5 seconds |
| 03:22.35 | Miravlix | haha the bottom of the water elemental is a free breath zone |
| 03:22.39 | |Shadow| | yea i love that |
| 03:22.48 | Nom_ | If i'm trinketed, that's basically 4000 damage in 2 seconds |
| 03:23.08 | Nom_ | FB crit = 2000, fire blast crit = 1000+, CoC crit = 1000+ |
| 03:23.22 | |Shadow| | i don't hit 2k that often |
| 03:23.29 | Nom_ | On trinket I do :) |
| 03:23.36 | |Shadow| | max i've ever hit with frost |
| 03:23.38 | |Shadow| | is 2241 |
| 03:23.44 | |Shadow| | yea same with the bg +damage thingy |
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| 03:23.57 | Nom_ | I've got ZHC |
| 03:24.07 | Nom_ | So yeah...that makes a big difference for burst damage |
| 03:24.21 | |Shadow| | lol :P |
| 03:25.43 | Nom_ | When I pop that, my normal FB hits for 950-1050 damage |
| 03:25.52 | |Shadow| | :D |
| 03:26.00 | |Shadow| | i love that seal druid danceing video |
| 03:26.03 | |Shadow| | have you seen that? |
| 03:26.08 | Nom_ | nope |
| 03:26.17 | |Shadow| | lol someone posted it in here earlier |
| 03:26.25 | |Shadow| | http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6647884948134542023&q=seal+dance |
| 03:26.26 | Nom_ | the cat form dance rocks :P |
| 03:26.32 | |Shadow| | i love that guy! :D |
| 03:27.27 | Nom_ | w |
| 03:27.27 | Nom_ | t |
| 03:27.28 | Nom_ | f |
| 03:27.33 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:27.53 | Nom_ | what a tool lol |
| 03:28.17 | |Shadow| | i love that guy :D |
| 03:31.22 | Cairenn | o.m.g. |
| 03:31.34 | Cairenn | that's just ... yeah |
| 03:31.49 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:31.54 | |Shadow| | i want that guy to have my babys :D |
| 03:32.19 | Nom_ | You're wierd. |
| 03:32.27 | |Shadow| | i know :) |
| 03:32.35 | Nom_ | And those babies would come out even more wierd. |
| 03:32.58 | |Shadow| | yea |
| 03:33.02 | |Shadow| | human\seal |
| 03:33.08 | |Shadow| | they could be sealmans! |
| 03:33.16 | Nom_ | I was thinking half idiot, half moron. |
| 03:33.26 | Nom_ | :D |
| 03:33.39 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:34.28 | Nom_ | hmm almost lunch time :D |
| 03:34.40 | Nom_ | hmm... Japanese or Pie & Chips |
| 03:34.57 | |Shadow| | lol :P |
| 03:35.13 | Nom_ | I suppose I could take a drive down to Subway, but I cbf :P |
| 03:36.07 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:36.21 | Tain | I had tasty turkey. |
| 03:39.04 | Nom_ | Japanese sounds like a plan. |
| 03:39.16 | Nom_ | They have a reaaaaaly good Chicken Katsu here |
| 03:41.30 | Miravlix | you know at around level 12 you can get a 100% mount as Dranai |
| 03:42.26 | Nom_ | you wish |
| 03:42.32 | Miravlix | No |
| 03:42.35 | Miravlix | Its true |
| 03:42.42 | Miravlix | I rode around on a 100% elephant |
| 03:43.28 | Cairenn | actually, you can do it as early as 10 |
| 03:43.44 | Miravlix | Isnt that around 12? :) |
| 03:44.26 | Cairenn | that, Miravlix, was what is known as someone backing you on your statements :p |
| 03:46.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Miravlix> you know at around level 12 you can get a 100% mount as Dranai |
| 03:46.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait what |
| 03:47.23 | Nom_ | It's called: |
| 03:47.24 | Nom_ | b |
| 03:47.24 | Nom_ | e |
| 03:47.25 | Nom_ | t |
| 03:47.25 | Nom_ | a |
| 03:47.33 | Miravlix | Stop that crap Nom |
| 03:47.37 | Miravlix | It will be in Live too |
| 03:48.22 | Nom_ | It doesn't exist unless you've got a screenshot to prove your claim. |
| 03:49.10 | Cairenn | Nom_: would you dispute *my* word as well? |
| 03:49.18 | Nom_ | Yes. :P |
| 03:49.28 | Cairenn | greater the fool you, then |
| 03:49.45 | Miravlix | Be ignorant if you must |
| 03:49.52 | Nom_ | As I said. It's not real unless there's a screenshot to prove it. |
| 03:50.20 | zenzelezz | and they'll be more trustworthy for what reason? |
| 03:50.25 | MentalPower | I'll add my word to that list |
| 03:50.39 | Cairenn | Nom_: you're being deliberately obtuse |
| 03:50.41 | Miravlix | Nom: Learn the difference between something that is a joke and you being insulting by saying it |
| 03:51.11 | Miravlix | Dranai gets a quest 10+ to deliver 3 messages all over there island |
| 03:51.23 | Miravlix | They get a 15 min Elephant buff to acomplish it |
| 03:51.31 | Cairenn | Nom_: yuo would have by far been better to ask what it was we were talking about, than to be an obstinate ass |
| 03:51.33 | Miravlix | If you dont finish the quest you can keep getting the buff |
| 03:51.44 | |Shadow| | how much are flying mounts going to be in tbc? |
| 03:51.57 | Miravlix | 5000 gold |
| 03:52.02 | |Shadow| | eww |
| 03:52.05 | Cairenn | and level 70 |
| 03:52.08 | |Shadow| | time to start saving up i guess |
| 03:52.37 | Cairenn | had you bothered to ask, you would have been told that it was a quest |
| 03:52.47 | Cairenn | and that it isn't permanent |
| 03:53.17 | Miravlix | I said that from the beginning |
| 03:53.22 | Nom_ | But all I wanted was a goddamn screenshot :~( |
| 03:53.30 | Miravlix | I told I had a 100% mount, that means I dont anymore |
| 03:53.35 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 03:53.54 | Cairenn | Nom_: then why didn't you say that in that fashion, instead of being insulting :p |
| 03:55.25 | Cairenn | unfortunately, I can't oblige you, I forgot to save my screenshot folder when it went from alpha to beta |
| 03:55.27 | Miravlix | There is several quests on Dranai island thats of the woops lets not finish this for giggles later |
| 03:56.03 | Tain | Screenshot for Nom. http://crushingdreams.com/images/ss.PNG |
| 03:56.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mike-N-Go (n=Mike@64.193.93.197) |
| 03:56.33 | Nom_ | Nice...detailed models too |
| 03:56.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:57.14 | Tain | That is my super custom UI by the way, I don't want anyone stealing it. |
| 03:58.02 | Nom_ | http://standen.id.au/pics/cats/ihassecret.jpg |
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| 03:58.22 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 03:58.27 | Mike-N-Go | I have been wondering some things: does 'AMDRealm = GetRealmName()' store GetRealmName() as the text for AMDRealm, or does it store the result of GetRealmName() into AMDRealm? |
| 03:58.49 | Nom_ | You think that's cute...check this one out (when i find it) |
| 03:58.57 | Nom_ | http://standen.id.au/pics/cats/hugstime.jpg |
| 03:59.29 | norgs | Nom_: Nice UI... I like how you've replaced WorldFrame with your own GUI layer |
| 03:59.34 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 04:00.04 | Mike-N-Go | OK, I will ask elsewhere. |
| 04:00.12 | cladhaire | Mike |
| 04:00.14 | cladhaire | its in pil. |
| 04:00.15 | cladhaire | like everything else. |
| 04:00.29 | cladhaire | variable = functioncall() takes the return from functioncall() and places that value in variable. |
| 04:00.37 | norgs | that is so beyond cute... i wanna cry... |
| 04:00.53 | norgs | (good tears tho) |
| 04:01.07 | Cairenn | http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/cookie.jpg |
| 04:01.31 | Nom_ | http://standen.id.au/pics/cats/youeatedcookie.jpg |
| 04:01.41 | norgs | We're getting another kitty next week |
| 04:02.06 | Nom_ | http://standen.id.au/pics/cats/ohmy.jpg <-- that one is rather funny too |
| 04:02.23 | cladhaire | Mike-N-Go: If you haven't already, ask for PiL for christmas, or whatever decemberish-be-thank-ful-holiday-time you have. |
| 04:02.28 | norgs | We got one for Kenny when he was about 1.5 and now we're getting one for Tessa now that she's 1.5 |
| 04:02.40 | Mike-N-Go | cadhaire: Thanks for your response. |
| 04:03.01 | MentalPower | oh, so you ahve both models, nice norgs :) |
| 04:03.01 | |Shadow| | dam...lol |
| 04:03.05 | |Shadow| | i want a flying mount |
| 04:03.07 | Mike-N-Go | cladhaire: I just read about the for statement in pill, I am now testing some code. |
| 04:03.15 | MentalPower | I've only seen pics of the girl |
| 04:03.19 | cladhaire | testing code is the best way to learn |
| 04:03.21 | cladhaire | bar none. |
| 04:03.30 | norgs | The boy's a menace! :p |
| 04:03.32 | kergoth | honestly, i wouldve expected that the responses given mke-n-go the other day wouldve convinced him to actually go read the documentation |
| 04:03.36 | norgs | ahah |
| 04:03.38 | kergoth | but clearly i'd be wrong |
| 04:03.51 | cladhaire | kergoth: Thats why I continue to poiund home the point. |
| 04:04.16 | cladhaire | Mike-N-Go: And to be fair, you would get the same response in any lua related channel. These things are just fundamentals which are covered quite clearly in the examples in PiL. |
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| 04:04.33 | cladhaire | I'm really not well |
| 04:04.39 | cladhaire | I should not be goign to Best Buy to camp out. |
| 04:04.53 | kergoth | i avoid shopping tomorrow like the plague |
| 04:05.00 | Tain | haha |
| 04:05.01 | kergoth | i'd get trampled to death by housewives or something |
| 04:05.04 | cladhaire | i've done black friday at best buy for the past four years. |
| 04:05.08 | Tain | There is *nothing* good that can come of that. |
| 04:05.26 | Tain | Of course I have to work anyway. |
| 04:05.33 | kergoth | :( |
| 04:05.36 | cladhaire | the $350.00 LCD for $129.00 is the only reason I'm going |
| 04:05.42 | Mike-N-Go | cladhaire: Well, some of this is hard, I have not programmed much before, first time for just about all of these new things. |
| 04:06.02 | cladhaire | Mike-N-Go: Understandable.. but even for someone who's had little to no programming, you start at the same place |
| 04:06.05 | cladhaire | where we all started |
| 04:06.27 | cladhaire | This channel can be pretty damn courteous, btu it seems like its pulling teeth getting you to do any reading.. |
| 04:06.47 | cladhaire | if you spend a half hour each night reading a chapter, and trying to understand the concepts, and coming in with questions relating to that content.. you'd get a much warmer response. |
| 04:07.11 | cladhaire | No one wants you to leave and go ask someone else, because that'/s not going to help them or you.. but we do ask that you do the most you can to help yourself learn the material. |
| 04:07.15 | Mike-N-Go | cladhaire: I have read chapter 4 of pil today! |
| 04:07.22 | cladhaire | what about chapters 1-3? |
| 04:07.58 | cladhaire | Happy Thanksgiving everyone, hope your families are well. |
| 04:08.08 | Mike-N-Go | I looked at them. ;) |
| 04:08.12 | cladhaire | read them |
| 04:08.13 | MentalPower | happy T-Day clad |
| 04:08.14 | cladhaire | then come back =) |
| 04:08.18 | Mike-N-Go | cladhaire: Will do. |
| 04:08.22 | cladhaire | and i'm serious about that.. you don't have to leave until there. |
| 04:08.41 | cladhaire | btu you're asking why Oedipus gouged his eyes out, without having read any of the store leading up to it. |
| 04:08.57 | cladhaire | Now, we could tell you piecemeal, half-assed.. or you can read the story for yourself. |
| 04:09.01 | Mike-N-Go | What is a btu? |
| 04:09.25 | cladhaire | I dont think a single person here would be upset if you came askign questions about a concept from PiL that you don't fully grasp |
| 04:09.26 | MentalPower | btu = but |
| 04:09.28 | Tain | And if there's one thing some people do good around here it's doing things half-assed! |
| 04:09.33 | cladhaire | my typing pwning me. |
| 04:09.43 | cladhaire | Tain only has half of an ass.. so it comes naturally for him. |
| 04:09.54 | Tain | It's where I keep my book smarts. |
| 04:13.16 | Cairenn | better that you should jump into the book they keep pointing you to |
| 04:14.07 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:17.26 | cladhaire | someone buy me the basshunter CD for christmas =) |
| 04:17.47 | cladhaire | should i have a cup of tea, or a bowl of soup? |
| 04:17.53 | MentalPower | soup |
| 04:18.06 | cladhaire | the healthy choice no salt nasty shit.. or the delicious progresso? |
| 04:18.16 | cladhaire | and if progresso, vegetable beef or pot roasT? |
| 04:18.27 | cladhaire | health choice is chicken noodle or chicken and rice |
| 04:19.07 | Miravlix | Taking a Belf Paladin and a Dranai Shaman through the starter area, Belf Fun, Dranai sucks. There you can all go make belfs now |
| 04:19.41 | cladhaire | my tummy is kinda full too |
| 04:19.43 | Tain | I used to get some of the Healthy Choice soups that wre pretty good. |
| 04:19.52 | Tain | Some were nasty of course. |
| 04:19.57 | Garoun|Loupana | I must be friggin blind, I can't find the slot #'s for the paperdollframe anywhere on wowwiki |
| 04:19.58 | cladhaire | Tain: I like salt.. that's all that they change between normal and health choice =) |
| 04:20.01 | Garoun|Loupana | I know I saw them, I just can't find them |
| 04:20.04 | cladhaire | at elast the ones I got |
| 04:20.24 | Tain | It's been a few years now for me, but they used to be no/low salt and almost no fat. |
| 04:20.32 | Tain | And they made up for it by loading up on spices. |
| 04:20.57 | Tain | I used to like it, a real spicy chicken noodle for example. |
| 04:21.43 | cladhaire | Garoun|Loupana: http://www.wowwiki.com/InventorySlotId |
| 04:21.49 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 04:21.51 | [Cu]Werik | My sister is not eating anything what had a face :P |
| 04:21.52 | Garoun|Loupana | thanks clad |
| 04:21.58 | cladhaire | then i'll have chicken noodle |
| 04:23.00 | Tain | Of course at the time I was not eating "healthy" at all. I got the silly notion into my head that I needed to lose weight and so was doing something like 3-5g of fat a day, and some absurd low calorie count. |
| 04:23.11 | Tain | I got fairly sick after a couple of months. |
| 04:24.07 | Garoun|Loupana | that's weird, if you use /equip it makes a weapon switch noise |
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| 04:24.11 | Garoun|Loupana | if you use /equipslot it doesn't |
| 04:24.30 | cladhaire | Taih: yeah, that's never good O.o |
| 04:24.35 | cladhaire | starving isn't dieting folks =) |
| 04:24.52 | Tain | Yes, my foolish youth. |
| 04:30.47 | cladhaire | Where does one learn how to spice food? |
| 04:31.28 | Tain | Well, I learned a lot by watching a lot of Food Network. |
| 04:31.36 | Tain | And trying it. |
| 04:31.48 | cladhaire | i suppose that's the best way |
| 04:31.51 | cladhaire | its what i really really lack |
| 04:31.53 | cladhaire | that and any technique |
| 04:32.00 | cladhaire | i want to take cooking classes when i'm in england |
| 04:32.30 | Tain | Eventually you get to the point where you get a sort of mental/tastebud idea of different spices and can imagine how they might go with something. |
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| 04:32.49 | cladhaire | i've done a bit of thyme on chicken before, and i liked how that turned out |
| 04:32.57 | cladhaire | andi knew when and where i like crushed red pepper |
| 04:33.02 | cladhaire | and garlic/garlic salt/pepper |
| 04:33.07 | cladhaire | biut thats my extend |
| 04:33.24 | Tain | Chicken is great because you can do literally almost anything with it. |
| 04:33.37 | cladhaire | aye |
| 04:33.43 | cladhaire | and i happent o like it, its cheap, etc. |
| 04:33.49 | Tain | Yep yep |
| 04:34.09 | Tain | Of course I'll put garlic in anything. |
| 04:34.12 | cladhaire | ack.. i wonder how grocery shopping works in England.. like whats readily available, etc. |
| 04:34.44 | Cairenn | cladhaire: I trust you have salad some times, yes? |
| 04:34.49 | cladhaire | yes |
| 04:35.10 | Cairenn | then baste your chicken in your favourite salad dressing part way through the cooking |
| 04:35.29 | cladhaire | *nod* i do that a lot |
| 04:35.36 | MentalPower | OMG, that is something I thought I would *never* see on this channel |
| 04:35.36 | cladhaire | but in particular, aI want to better undestand what the spices each do |
| 04:35.38 | Cairenn | Catalina, Classic Herb, French, Ranch ... they make great sauces for chicken |
| 04:35.39 | Tain | Or even better depending on the dressing, marinade the chicken in it overnight. |
| 04:35.53 | Cairenn | MentalPower: hmmm? |
| 04:35.54 | MentalPower | cooking recipes discussion |
| 04:36.00 | Mike-N-Go | Yum! |
| 04:36.07 | Cairenn | why not? lord knows we discuss everything else under the sun |
| 04:36.28 | cladhaire | my average meal (which i enjoy) is basmati brown rice, broccoli with a dash of garlic salt, and pan seared chicken with roasted garlic herb spice.. which is my godsend at the moment =) |
| 04:36.32 | MentalPower | well *now* you do :P |
| 04:36.38 | Tain | The big thing with spices is subtelty. A little bit of something brings out different flavor. |
| 04:36.52 | cladhaire | aye |
| 04:37.01 | cladhaire | i like to get cooking books, and then make something, and try to mix and match that next time i cook |
| 04:37.18 | norgs | anybody ever cooked chicken in orange soft-drink / soda? |
| 04:37.21 | Tem | I know how to make omlets |
| 04:37.27 | Tem | and rice |
| 04:37.30 | Tem | ... and that's about it |
| 04:37.32 | Tain | That's why I never liked cookbooks, they just told you what to do. It wasn't until I started watching Food Network where the chefs would actually explain *why* |
| 04:37.34 | norgs | it makes an interesting sauce |
| 04:37.36 | Tain | And then things sstarted clicking. |
| 04:37.48 | norgs | you need to get one of those oven bags to cook it though |
| 04:37.57 | cladhaire | luckily i like rice, cous cous, chicken and broccoli..and prefer whole grains.. so i end up eating pretty well either way |
| 04:38.23 | Tain | I love rice. I just got away from cooking stuff in the last year or so. :) |
| 04:38.26 | Cairenn | doing a beef roast? mix equal parts dried mustard and worcestershire sauce, sprinkle with garlic salt |
| 04:38.44 | Tain | oooh that was a great discovery for me, speaking of worcestershire. |
| 04:38.48 | Tain | It goes great with chicken. |
| 04:38.51 | norgs | anybody watch the show kitchen chemistry? |
| 04:38.55 | Cairenn | it goes great with *everything* |
| 04:38.56 | Miravlix | That was interesting level 21 Paladin with starter zone equipment, killing a 25 Elder Bear |
| 04:38.59 | norgs | i love that show :) |
| 04:39.12 | Cairenn | I've cooked beef, pork, chicken, rice .... |
| 04:39.25 | Kirkburn | Argh, you're making me hungry |
| 04:39.27 | Cairenn | or add a dash of soya sauce |
| 04:39.40 | Cairenn | I hate soya as a condiment, but cooking with it .. mmmm |
| 04:40.46 | Tain | When I use ground turkey instead of ground beef I add worcestershire and a dash of soy sauce. :) |
| 04:40.49 | Cairenn | honestly, when it comes to *seasoning* ... it's all experimentation, the worst that happens is you don't enjoy the flavour of one meal |
| 04:41.05 | Kirkburn | Tain, I wonder how many people pronounce that wrong :P |
| 04:41.22 | Tain | The other big thing with seasoning is you have to do it before you cook. Adding anything after it is done is just too late. |
| 04:41.37 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 04:41.37 | Tain | If someone has to salt and pepper their food after the fact it isn't seasoned enough. |
| 04:41.39 | cladhaire | pretty much |
| 04:41.43 | Cairenn | tired of plain old hamburger? take that package of peppercorn sauce that is usually considered only for steak or roast and mix it into the hamburger instead |
| 04:41.47 | norgs | Cairenn: the most important thing is to have fun, and don't be frightened to experiment.... applies to most things in life, really |
| 04:41.48 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: most |
| 04:41.51 | Kirkburn | "I'm looking for Ley-cester" ... one, of course, means Leicester =) |
| 04:42.18 | Kirkburn | ("lester" to those who are completely confused by me) |
| 04:42.24 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: zomg how does grocery shopping work for me tomorrow? |
| 04:42.50 | Kirkburn | Tomorrow? |
| 04:43.00 | cladhaire | whoa |
| 04:43.03 | cladhaire | i mean when i'm in england. |
| 04:43.07 | cladhaire | that was a brain typo |
| 04:43.11 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 04:43.11 | Tain | Watch out for the bird flu! |
| 04:43.28 | Tain | And the mad cow! |
| 04:43.50 | Kirkburn | Where do you think we all live, in farm sheds? :) |
| 04:43.54 | cladhaire | no |
| 04:43.55 | cladhaire | i mean like |
| 04:44.09 | cladhaire | whats the availability of things like turkey sausage, or any hot sausage. |
| 04:44.09 | Kirkburn | That was @ Tain :P |
| 04:44.12 | Tain | What is the etiquette for using the out house? |
| 04:44.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:44.26 | Kirkburn | Wait until the other person has finished? =) |
| 04:44.32 | Cairenn | the one with the moon cutout is female, the one with the sun is male |
| 04:44.46 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, fine, lots of everything everywhere |
| 04:44.50 | cladhaire | good good. |
| 04:45.02 | Cairenn | oh, clad, very VERY important warning |
| 04:45.18 | Cairenn | they are not "fries", damnit, they are "chips" |
| 04:45.22 | cladhaire | yeah yeah |
| 04:45.24 | cladhaire | i got it =) |
| 04:45.24 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 04:45.27 | cladhaire | i know that much |
| 04:45.42 | cladhaire | the pub food ordering thing really bothers me.. the whole.. get a table, then order at the counter and pay |
| 04:45.46 | Kirkburn | We have enough US TV over here to know what you mean, heh |
| 04:45.49 | cladhaire | i like being able to add things to my check, and order extra stuff. |
| 04:45.50 | Tain | that reminds me, I forgot to make a dish for Thanksgiving today that I was going to. Sweet potato chips |
| 04:46.01 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, very much depends on the pub, that |
| 04:46.08 | cladhaire | the ones in Kent were like that. |
| 04:46.47 | Kirkburn | I know what you mean, though, kinda weird isn't it |
| 04:46.56 | cladhaire | aye |
| 04:47.01 | cladhaire | how shady are real estate companies. |
| 04:47.11 | cladhaire | i need to find a place in Kent that will rent to me, with a Dog.. and not be ass far from the University |
| 04:47.15 | Kirkburn | Sainbury's, Tescos, Asda, we have many giant supermarkets, you're not gonna be stuck for food choices :) |
| 04:47.23 | cladhaire | by kent i meant Canterbury, of course.. I realize that Kent is the county =) |
| 04:47.33 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 04:47.47 | cladhaire | ~boten anna |
| 04:48.15 | Kirkburn | At least you haven't asked me whether I know anyone there yet =) Cause, like, we know everyone in the UK of course, being so small and all ... |
| 04:48.35 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 04:48.35 | cladhaire | no |
| 04:48.47 | cladhaire | i know how long and expensive it is to get from Canterbury to Oxford |
| 04:48.49 | cladhaire | so i dont think that. |
| 04:49.05 | Kirkburn | The dog thing may make it more difficult, but I'm sure you'll find somewhere |
| 04:49.05 | cladhaire | purl, boten anna is http://basshunter.m0o.eu/video,BotenAnna,English |
| 04:49.08 | purl | cladhaire: okay |
| 04:49.13 | cladhaire | ~boten anna |
| 04:49.14 | purl | [boten anna] http://basshunter.m0o.eu/video,BotenAnna,English |
| 04:49.34 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: no no, that's Canada, don't you know? |
| 04:49.43 | Kirkburn | =P |
| 04:50.03 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, you fail at typing valid hyperlinks? |
| 04:50.10 | cladhaire | My problem now, is how to find a place to live.. without flying over there in the summer.. since tickets right now for the summer are 1k at least |
| 04:50.17 | cladhaire | that hyperlink works for me. |
| 04:50.29 | Cairenn | I kid you not ... at BlizzCon, I had someone ask me if I knew [x] because surely I must, being from Canada myself |
| 04:51.01 | norgs | yah - we get that in australia too |
| 04:51.01 | Tain | I knew this girl from Canada her name was Stephanie do you know her? |
| 04:51.12 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, gonna check in FF |
| 04:51.21 | Cairenn | Tain: yeah, I hated her, she was such a bitch to me back in school |
| 04:51.37 | Kirkburn | Nope, not in IE7 nor FF2, weird :P |
| 04:51.48 | Tain | Actually last I heard she got her medical degree and is in Moncton now. |
| 04:52.12 | Cairenn | oh bugger, I might very well then, since I went to high school in Moncton :p |
| 04:52.22 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, you could try looking up local agencies - they should be able to help you find a house quickly |
| 04:52.24 | norgs | apparently we're a small island with only abot 30 people, a small pack of dingoes (to eat the excess babies) and some kangaroos and koala bears |
| 04:52.29 | Tain | It's funny when you know someone who's in school, but different when you have to look at them and they are a real actual Doctor. |
| 04:52.56 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: That's what I was hoping for.. they're reputable enougj.. you think i can avoid being screwed? =) |
| 04:52.59 | Kirkburn | And your only road is littered with wallabies :P |
| 04:53.24 | Tain | Dingos stole my condo. |
| 04:53.37 | Cairenn | never know where the conversation is going to go next |
| 04:53.42 | norgs | heheh |
| 04:53.44 | Kirkburn | Yeah, as long as it's a reasonably size agency, yeah, I reckon you'll be okay |
| 04:53.59 | cladhaire | do the british say "Reckon?" |
| 04:54.01 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 04:54.03 | Kirkburn | Just don't end up living next to your landlord :/ |
| 04:54.11 | Kirkburn | I reckon so |
| 04:54.14 | cladhaire | zomg why? |
| 04:54.15 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:54.32 | Kirkburn | I reckon it's because we're all a bunch of freekazoids? |
| 04:54.42 | Cairenn | the british have been reckoning up their bills for a whole hell of a lot longer than the americans :p |
| 04:54.54 | Kirkburn | We reckon them gooood |
| 04:55.03 | cladhaire | =) |
| 04:55.10 | norgs | there's a reckoning coming... |
| 04:55.15 | cladhaire | well i'm waiting for the project to be written so i can apply for my work visa |
| 04:56.07 | Kirkburn | What I find quite funny is that there's a big construction company here called "Wrekin Construction" |
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| 04:56.19 | norgs | even those highlanders have been having reckonings |
| 04:56.26 | cladhaire | zomg hi sioraiocht |
| 04:56.46 | Kirkburn | (thank god for tab name completetion?) |
| 04:56.50 | cladhaire | lol |
| 04:56.51 | sioraiocht | lol yo |
| 04:57.00 | sioraiocht | hey, there's only tripthongs, nothing worse |
| 04:57.02 | cladhaire | I hate it when he has damn character names like that. |
| 04:57.19 | sioraiocht | shutup, YOUR name was MY suggestion, asshat |
| 04:57.27 | cladhaire | yeah, cause Cyprian was taken |
| 04:57.37 | sioraiocht | your priest's name? also my suggestion |
| 04:57.40 | Tain | That's a lesson I learned in EQ. If your character is a healer or buffer people will be more apt to send you tells if you have a short, simple name. |
| 04:57.41 | sioraiocht | your druid's name? mine too |
| 04:57.54 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, the supermarket Asda is owned by Walmart, so you can guess what that one is like :/ |
| 04:57.54 | Cairenn | hey sweetie, how goes? keeping clad in line I trust? |
| 04:57.55 | cladhaire | Hey, I had a Shaman that you didn't name. |
| 04:58.00 | Tain | Make it long and complicated and they'll just ask someone else. |
| 04:58.03 | sioraiocht | clearly |
| 04:58.05 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: Neat |
| 04:58.16 | sioraiocht | Kirkburn: I'm a Sainsbury fan myself |
| 04:58.24 | Kirkburn | Yay for Sainsburys! |
| 04:58.33 | Cairenn | so when are you two rascals coming back up here to visit me again, anyway? |
| 04:58.41 | sioraiocht | hahahahaha |
| 04:58.41 | Kirkburn | lol, hello |
| 04:58.43 | Tain | Those dirty rotten Sainsburys. |
| 04:58.47 | sioraiocht | FINE, WANT ME TO HAVE A BETTER NAME? |
| 04:58.51 | cladhaire | Cairenn: next time i have free time |
| 04:58.56 | norgs | Hi saeioucht |
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| 04:59.08 | Tain | You don't have free time, you make free time. |
| 04:59.11 | Cairenn | cladhaire: I *know* what your schedule is ... guess I'll see you after you get your PhD |
| 04:59.13 | sioraiocht | Correction, next time I have free time. |
| 04:59.28 | sioraiocht | no, we'll both be pretty lazy this summer |
| 04:59.29 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Nah, once this month is over.. its the boy's time that matters |
| 04:59.36 | cladhaire | sioraiocht: Are you here this summer? |
| 04:59.39 | sioraiocht | yes |
| 04:59.40 | Kirkburn | Sainsburys has always had a soft spot in my heart, oh and there's not much choice in the middle of Bristol. It's sainsburys or go on a hike :) |
| 04:59.48 | sioraiocht | haha |
| 05:00.04 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: I need produce, spices, chicken and broccoli |
| 05:00.08 | sioraiocht | When i was in Oxy last we had to go to the Tesco cuz it was closest. I didn't mind it, because it was built on top of an old friary |
| 05:00.21 | sioraiocht | I feel that 1,000 year old foundations give it a sense of validitiy |
| 05:00.23 | cladhaire | with the occasional hot italian turkey sausage |
| 05:00.30 | sioraiocht | validity even |
| 05:00.36 | Kirkburn | As long as you're okay with rearing the chickens yourself, you'll be fine :P |
| 05:00.47 | cladhaire | my dog will.. herd.. the... chickens? |
| 05:01.02 | sioraiocht | Your dog will need to learn not to be afraid of them first. |
| 05:01.36 | sioraiocht | and ps, be grateful I'm not using this name *with* the diacritical markings |
| 05:02.52 | sioraiocht | Kirkburn: You'll care because your British. My application to Oxford was sent on tuesday *nervous* |
| 05:03.01 | Kirkburn | ooh |
| 05:03.05 | Tain | I gave thanks for that earlier today over dinner, sioraiocht. |
| 05:03.27 | Kirkburn | God luck with it |
| 05:03.39 | Kirkburn | And where the hell does that name come from? |
| 05:03.55 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.59 | cladhaire | we make a good couple? |
| 05:04.04 | cladhaire | i guess its good i like the guy then |
| 05:04.06 | Tain | Aww I'm much too bitter and jaded for all of that. |
| 05:04.08 | sioraiocht | Well, you British oppressor, you wouldn't know, but it's the Irish word for Eternity |
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| 05:04.23 | sioraiocht | =p |
| 05:04.23 | Cairenn | well, you certainly twitter each other like an old married couple, that's for damn sure |
| 05:04.24 | Kirkburn | Help, help! I'm being repressed! |
| 05:04.28 | sioraiocht | hahahah |
| 05:04.44 | Tain | Bloody peasant, shut up! |
| 05:05.25 | Kirkburn | Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you? |
| 05:05.36 | sioraiocht | LOL |
| 05:06.06 | sioraiocht | and the actual word is SÃoraÃocht |
| 05:06.30 | Kirkburn | The appropriate response would be "Eeek" |
| 05:07.08 | sioraiocht | yes |
| 05:07.39 | sioraiocht | i hate doing accents on a mac, it was actually better on windows |
| 05:07.40 | Kirkburn | Is it pronounced how it looks though? |
| 05:07.44 | sioraiocht | no |
| 05:07.44 | sioraiocht | err |
| 05:08.02 | Kirkburn | Siobhan, ftw :) |
| 05:08.09 | sioraiocht | in like, english spelling, the close approximation is See-ree-ucht |
| 05:08.18 | sioraiocht | ch being like in Bach |
| 05:08.28 | sioraiocht | haha |
| 05:08.38 | Kirkburn | Next question: why? |
| 05:08.51 | sioraiocht | why is it pronounced that way or why is tha tmy name? |
| 05:08.56 | sioraiocht | or why is it in Irish? |
| 05:09.23 | Kirkburn | (I'm trying to remember how you spell "Scepter" there, but I can't recall it) |
| 05:09.35 | Kirkburn | Why that name, yeah |
| 05:09.35 | sioraiocht | in Ireland? |
| 05:09.42 | sioraiocht | or in America? |
| 05:09.42 | sioraiocht | heh |
| 05:09.46 | sioraiocht | oh |
| 05:09.46 | sioraiocht | well |
| 05:09.51 | sioraiocht | i was buying my domain name |
| 05:09.55 | sioraiocht | for like, random websit things |
| 05:10.01 | sioraiocht | and my friend suggested "aftereternity" |
| 05:10.04 | sioraiocht | and i thought it was neat |
| 05:10.11 | sioraiocht | so I like eternity as a name for stuff |
| 05:10.48 | Kirkburn | intruiging |
| 05:10.55 | sioraiocht | and I like the Irish language, I think it's the most beautiful language ever, followed closely by welsh |
| 05:11.03 | Kirkburn | I live with a welshman |
| 05:11.23 | sioraiocht | yeah, all i know of welsh to speak grammatically is "Hello" |
| 05:11.32 | Kirkburn | Better than me! |
| 05:13.31 | Kirkburn | Dammit, I still can't find the irish version of Scepter |
| 05:13.33 | Kirkburn | (name of one of my cousins) |
| 05:13.40 | Mike-N-Go | sioraiocht, learn to put more then 1 to 4 words on a line. |
| 05:13.51 | Kirkburn | That's a |
| 05:13.55 | Kirkburn | crazy idea |
| 05:13.59 | cladhaire | lol he's just trying to compete with me for short-talking. |
| 05:14.05 | cladhaire | i always own that stat =) |
| 05:14.52 | sioraiocht | Kirkburn: I don't know it offhand, I'll look in my Focloir Poca when I get home. |
| 05:15.43 | sioraiocht | Mike-N-Go: Learn the difference between "then" and "than" |
| 05:15.53 | sioraiocht | kthx |
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| 05:17.36 | Cairenn | now boys, play nicely |
| 05:17.40 | Nom_ | *sigh* |
| 05:17.44 | Nom_ | Waiting for Beer O'Clock |
| 05:18.48 | ckknight | sounds like it's already Beer:Thirty to me. |
| 05:19.41 | cladhaire | okay |
| 05:19.42 | MentalPower | nah, just Beer:Fifteen |
| 05:19.43 | cladhaire | headed to best buy |
| 05:19.45 | cladhaire | see you folks later! |
| 05:19.51 | MentalPower | later clad |
| 05:19.57 | Cairenn | night cladhaire |
| 05:20.17 | Cairenn | tuck the extra blanket inside your sleeping bag, it's gonna be a cold one tonight |
| 05:20.46 | cladhaire | yeah i will |
| 05:20.47 | cladhaire | thanks =) |
| 05:21.04 | Mike-N-Go | sioraiocht: :P |
| 05:21.17 | Tain | cladhaire stay home in your own bed and don't do it. |
| 05:21.49 | Nom_ | Another 3h 40m 'til Beer O'Clock |
| 05:21.59 | Nom_ | Although we might be on beerlight savings time now |
| 05:22.04 | Nom_ | In which case it could be sooner |
| 05:23.22 | Tain | I thought daylight savings time was annoying enough in the US, I had no idea what a mess it is in Australia. |
| 05:23.57 | Kirkburn | Why make things simple, when you can change them at the last minute? |
| 05:24.49 | Nom_ | Who said anything about daylight savings time |
| 05:24.57 | Nom_ | I'm talking about Beer O'Clock |
| 05:25.00 | Tain | I did. |
| 05:25.13 | Kirkburn | Me too =) |
| 05:25.13 | Nom_ | That magical time of the week when work stops early and the free company-bought beer comes out. |
| 05:25.21 | Mike-N-Go | Nom_: Why do you have "_" in your name? |
| 05:25.28 | Tain | I see no screenshot so it doesn't exist. |
| 05:25.31 | Nom_ | Because someone has (or had) 'Nom |
| 05:25.35 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 05:25.43 | Nom | ninja's |
| 05:25.46 | Nom | ninja'd |
| 05:26.08 | Miravlix | Anyone else a bit supprised at the total lack of changes beyond outland? |
| 05:26.21 | Nom- | Nup, someone owns 'Nom' on this network |
| 05:26.28 | sioraiocht | Miravlix: what were you expecting? |
| 05:27.02 | Tain | I was expecting chocolate covered unicorns riding beneath rainbow skies. |
| 05:27.07 | Miravlix | A little here and there updates |
| 05:27.17 | Miravlix | Like 65 guards at the old towns |
| 05:27.32 | Tain | With a nice chianti. |
| 05:28.16 | Nom- | I'll take a screenshot of Beer O'Clock this afternoon |
| 05:28.26 | Nom- | Wait, no I won't, because i'll be drinking beer |
| 05:30.07 | ckknight | Nom-, find an original name |
| 05:30.08 | ckknight | like I did |
| 05:30.41 | Miravlix | I think your parents found that one |
| 05:30.55 | Nom- | meh, it was original when I got it originally |
| 05:31.13 | Nom- | I'm the orignal Nom (which is short for Innominate) |
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| 05:32.11 | ckknight | Miravlix, you're not one to pick up on subtle humor, hrm? |
| 05:32.15 | Miravlix | Another differnce, belf has no karma with anyone, Dranai is honored with all factions when leaving there island |
| 05:32.55 | ckknight | BElf has good relations with Undead. |
| 05:33.00 | Miravlix | They are revered with Dranai, honored all other |
| 05:33.19 | ckknight | and seriously learn to spell, it's bugging me |
| 05:33.35 | Miravlix | Belf is Honored with Silvermoon (them self) and barely friendly with Undercity |
| 05:33.39 | Miravlix | Fuck you ckk |
| 05:33.40 | Nom- | ckknight: lern2notcare |
| 05:33.45 | Miravlix | I'm dyslexic I cant learn |
| 05:34.08 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
| 05:34.17 | ckknight | don't blame your handicaps, overcome them |
| 05:34.29 | Miravlix | Fuck you |
| 05:34.42 | Miravlix | Ive been fighting this shit for 35 years now |
| 05:34.53 | Miravlix | Being insulted for being an idiot constantly |
| 05:35.01 | ckknight | I have mild dyslexia |
| 05:35.19 | Miravlix | Im doing my fucking best |
| 05:35.30 | Miravlix | and you giving me shit for it just makes me give up |
| 05:35.36 | Nom- | You both have a mild case of caringtoomuchabouttheinternet-tosis |
| 05:35.52 | Miravlix | What the fuck is the point in trying, when idiots like you just give me shit over it anyway? |
| 05:36.08 | ckknight | I find having a spellchecker in your IRC client helps me a lot. |
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| 05:36.21 | Nom- | This is rather humerous actually, watching you get worked up about nothing. |
| 05:36.21 | jaxdahl | is draenei in the spellchecker? |
| 05:36.23 | Miravlix | It doesn't help real deslexics |
| 05:36.28 | norgs | Tain: What's wrong with DST in Australia? |
| 05:36.41 | Miravlix | Because I cant tell the difference between nipples and nibbles or whatever |
| 05:36.41 | ckknight | jaxdahl, you could add it. |
| 05:37.06 | jaxdahl | nipple my nibbles you nipbler |
| 05:37.15 | ckknight | at least it could be better than it is. |
| 05:37.21 | ckknight | no point in not trying to better yourself. |
| 05:37.25 | Nom- | norgs: This sucks a lot...my guild will now start raiding at 9PM or 10PM my time, instead of 8PM |
| 05:37.30 | ckknight | I try every day |
| 05:37.37 | Miravlix | And I dont? |
| 05:37.49 | Miravlix | Where the fuck do you know all this about me from? |
| 05:38.09 | ckknight | excuse me? |
| 05:38.24 | norgs | Nom: you in Australia or your guild is? |
| 05:38.26 | Cairenn | I'm about to excuse both of you for a break if you don't calm it down right now |
| 05:38.29 | Nom- | I am |
| 05:38.39 | Nom- | My guild is from all over...mostly in GMT +8 timezone |
| 05:38.45 | Cairenn | take it to tells if you must, but you both know better than to act like that in here |
| 05:38.49 | ckknight | (I wasn't saying excuse me to you, Cairenn) |
| 05:38.50 | Miravlix | Fucking tired of the lame ass personal attacks one always get in here |
| 05:39.04 | Nom- | I am too, but it means that what used to be an 8PM start time now becomes a 9PM start itme |
| 05:39.05 | ckknight | I frankly don't see how I've been a nuisance |
| 05:39.07 | ckknight | oh well |
| 05:39.08 | ckknight | I'm done. |
| 05:39.24 | Cairenn | I'm telling both of you to back down, personal attacks aren't allowed, never have been and you are both over the line |
| 05:39.26 | Nom- | so if we're running late, it becomes a 10PM instead of 9PM and all of a sudden I don't get to bed until 2am ot later lol |
| 05:40.16 | Cairenn | as for others, adding fuel to the fire isn't much appreciated either, so smarten up |
| 05:40.17 | norgs | Nom: Yeah. I'm lucky my guild is Australian/NewZealand/Indonesian |
| 05:40.26 | norgs | all around the same time |
| 05:41.13 | norgs | but still, having no DST in Queensland, while NSW does messes up stuff a little |
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| 05:44.38 | jaxdahl | i just ran out of CD-Rs :( |
| 05:44.47 | jaxdahl | this spindle of 100 has lasted me 5 years |
| 05:45.34 | jaxdahl | i have a small spindle of DVD-Rs, but it doesn't work to burn CD ISOs on them |
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| 05:51.20 | Mike-N-Go | I got the addon I have been working on to finally, work. |
| 05:54.27 | Cairenn | night guys, try to behave for a change while I attempt to get some sleep, hmmm? |
| 05:55.11 | Mike-N-Go | I have R(some of)TFM!!!! |
| 05:55.29 | Cairenn|afk | yay |
| 05:57.44 | Mike-N-Go | CH 4, I have today. |
| 06:06.06 | Mike-N-Go | When the debug window says: ')' expected near '=' |
| 06:06.33 | Mike-N-Go | Does that give any indication as to where, instead of "near" |
| 06:07.45 | Neuro_Medivh | it means you're missing a parenthesis |
| 06:07.50 | Neuro_Medivh | count the left and the right ones |
| 06:07.57 | Neuro_Medivh | figure out where you missed it |
| 06:08.51 | Mike-N-Go | ( NumPartyMembers = 0 ) |
| 06:09.07 | Mike-N-Go | Is the line, errm, more scope: if ( NumPartyMembers = 0 ) then |
| 06:10.12 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, I see one error |
| 06:10.21 | Neuro_Medivh | = is assignation |
| 06:10.26 | Neuro_Medivh | == is evaluation |
| 06:10.42 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks. |
| 06:10.48 | Mike-N-Go | I forgot about that. |
| 06:11.10 | Mike-N-Go | I was about to try: if ( ( NumPartyMembers ) = ( 0 ) ) then; next :P |
| 06:12.13 | Mike-N-Go | Where did they come up with "==" anyhow? |
| 06:12.17 | ckknight | you'll get used to it one day. |
| 06:12.22 | ckknight | it's a C-ism, essentially |
| 06:12.36 | ckknight | because = meant assignment, they needed another way to represent equality |
| 06:12.40 | ckknight | so the == was formed |
| 06:12.43 | ckknight | essentially. |
| 06:13.03 | Garoun|Loupana | ++++++ |
| 06:13.22 | ckknight | hrm, Garoun? |
| 06:13.35 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks. |
| 06:15.15 | Mike-N-Go | Does === happen to do anything by chance? |
| 06:15.43 | Garoun|Loupana | woops :P |
| 06:15.56 | Garoun|Loupana | have a fan dying and accidently hit my keyboard |
| 06:18.32 | Thunder_Child | to be honest i think they should have used something more like @= for asignments but seeing as how they are used so much is suppose it makes sence to make it simple |
| 06:18.53 | Mike-N-Go | Yes! I finally got all my kinks for a party of 4 worked out for my LFG helper. |
| 06:19.59 | End | some languages use := |
| 06:22.08 | Thunder_Child | such as? |
| 06:23.39 | Nom- | === is more fun |
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| 06:24.57 | Nom- | It's been so long since i've touched C that I can't even remember what '===' did lol |
| 06:31.55 | ckknight | === isn't in C, it's in PHP, though |
| 06:32.02 | ckknight | === means reference equality |
| 06:32.08 | ckknight | instead of just equivalency |
| 06:34.31 | Nom- | damn, that's nasty |
| 06:34.37 | Nom- | Just got some freelance coding work |
| 06:34.46 | Nom- | Turns out the mess of a site they paid for cost $13K |
| 06:34.59 | Nom- | And there's virtually nothing behind this site...it's pretty damn basic |
| 06:37.23 | Mike-N-Go | Take a look, be amazed, I typed each line of code myself, taking suggestions on how to make it better, most notably how to sort the list, putting the toons levels in-front of the class, so class is not repeated, K, thanks, here it is! http://pastey.net/2696 |
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| 06:41.51 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone :| |
| 06:44.45 | Nom- | You shouldn't need to check the value of i |
| 06:44.50 | Nom- | since the for loop does that |
| 06:45.11 | Nom- | What you should do however |
| 06:45.15 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, I did not know that, but it works nevertheless :D |
| 06:45.20 | Nom- | Is not assume NumPartyMembers is set |
| 06:45.29 | Nom- | in function PartyLFG |
| 06:45.51 | Nom- | You should initialize NumPartyMembers in each function to a sane value |
| 06:46.09 | Nom- | Also you could easily simplify that |
| 06:46.24 | Nom- | NumPartyMembers = tonumber(GetNumPartyMembers()) |
| 06:47.31 | Mike-N-Go | What did I do differently in: NumPartyMembers = nil; NumPartyMembers = GetNumPartyMembers(); NumPartyMembers = tonumber(NumPartyMembers) |
| 06:49.49 | Mike-N-Go | Seeing as this is the first code block I have wrote myself and being new, I don't know what you mean by: not assume NumPartyMembers is set |
| 06:51.09 | Nom- | Just pasted a followup |
| 06:51.27 | Nom- | http://pastey.net/2697-20s3 |
| 06:54.58 | Nom- | You should (generally) not just do if variable then |
| 06:55.07 | Nom- | If it's a boolean, then it's fine, but that's not |
| 06:55.26 | Mike-N-Go | Huh? |
| 06:55.44 | Mike-N-Go | The for statement? |
| 06:57.03 | Mike-N-Go | OK, Nom, thanks for rearranging my code. |
| 06:57.55 | Mike-N-Go | May I ask why you removed: NumPartyMembers = nil |
| 06:58.58 | Nom- | Because you're already setting it to the value of GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 06:59.39 | Mike-N-Go | But what if GetNumPartyMembers() is unacessable? And it uses the old value? |
| 06:59.55 | Nom- | It should be unset when it goes out of scope |
| 07:00.03 | Nom- | because it's now declared as local |
| 07:00.51 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, does that mean the local vars get nil-a-fied when the block ends? |
| 07:01.03 | Nom- | It shouldn't exist when the block ends, yes |
| 07:01.20 | Nom- | Which is (generally) what you should do with any function |
| 07:01.27 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, so, it is just repetition. |
| 07:01.45 | Mike-N-Go | I know, use locals whenever possible. |
| 07:02.12 | Miravlix | My beta belf paladin is dogding like he was a rogue |
| 07:02.14 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks for your help. |
| 07:09.42 | Miravlix | The new combat system is going to be a supprise to people when they find out there gear no matter what has big holes in it missing the new stats |
| 07:10.18 | Miravlix | Its not just my toon that dodge a lot, the mobs is hard to hit too |
| 07:17.32 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, Nom- |
| 07:18.35 | Mike-N-Go | Why I did not do "for i=1, tonumber(NumPartyMembers), 1 do" was because I had "NumPartyMembers = tonumber(NumPartyMembers)" in front, and I thought, why would I need to make it a number again. |
| 07:19.27 | Mike-N-Go | Nom-: Thanks for telling me what I was doing wrong, I would like to know :) |
| 07:21.06 | Mike-N-Go | Did I call that the right thing, "Stack Overflow" ? |
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| 07:23.20 | Nom- | No |
| 07:23.46 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, what would that be called, then. |
| 07:23.47 | Nom- | You shouldn't need to make sure it's a number, because your call to initialise it set it to a number |
| 07:25.44 | Iriel | lua will promote a string with a numeric value to a number in most cases too |
| 07:26.17 | Iriel | for i = 1, "10" do something(i); end |
| 07:26.20 | Iriel | works just fine |
| 07:27.07 | Nom- | yeah, the point i was trying to make tho |
| 07:27.14 | Nom- | he's doing myVar = tonumber(somefunction()) |
| 07:27.29 | Nom- | and then was doing for i=0, tonumber(myVar),1 do |
| 07:27.49 | Nom- | It's doing the work twice, when once is enough |
| 07:31.26 | Miravlix | The optimizer will turn one into a nop anyway |
| 07:32.15 | Elkano | Iriel, even if I'm a bit late: O-kekkon omedetô! |
| 07:32.19 | Mike-N-Go | What is optimizer? |
| 07:32.38 | Mike-N-Go | Do you guys think that LFM is better then the long hand? |
| 07:33.16 | Iriel | Miravlix: The optimizer isn't that smart (nor can it make that assumption) |
| 07:33.47 | Miravlix | Its a joke lua isnt a compiled/optimized language |
| 07:33.57 | Iriel | Mike-N-Go: The optimizer is a thing that looks at the compiled code and attempts to eliminate/improve unnecessary/common code. |
| 07:34.14 | Iriel | Miravlix: It does actually HAVE an optimizer, a fairly simple one, but it's there, and run every time we compile into bytecode |
| 07:35.58 | Miravlix | Its not the same thing as a C optimizer |
| 07:36.22 | Iriel | That's certainly true |
| 07:36.34 | Iriel | But the C optimizer has somewhat more information to work with |
| 07:36.45 | Iriel | Late binding's a bitch for optimization |
| 07:37.13 | Miravlix | In C we have optimizer side effects and fun |
| 07:38.25 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I got to add the party purpose stable via slash commands now :) |
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| 07:42.33 | Mike-N-Go | Is there a function like PartyLeader() to find out who is the leader of the party? Or is there somehow you can 'see' the little star in there picture? |
| 07:43.14 | Miravlix | Does Blizzard release any info on when next beta patch is released? |
| 07:43.45 | Iriel | Not usually no |
| 07:44.12 | Iriel | We often find out before slouken does (i.e. even he doesn't know when they happen until they happen) |
| 07:44.26 | Thunder_Child | the general consensus seems to be dec 5th |
| 07:51.53 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, never mind, I think I have something from wowwiki. |
| 07:59.09 | AnduinLothar | PartyLeader() would definitelye be useful |
| 07:59.23 | AnduinLothar | or even better GetPartyLeaderUnit() |
| 07:59.42 | AnduinLothar | or GetGroupLeaderUnit() |
| 07:59.55 | AnduinLothar | that would work in raid and party and return the unit id |
| 08:01.39 | Mike-N-Go | Do you think GetGroupLeaderUnit("player") would work? |
| 08:02.09 | AnduinLothar | why woudl you want to have to give it a unit? |
| 08:02.38 | Mike-N-Go | Because what group's leader? |
| 08:02.53 | AnduinLothar | what? |
| 08:03.38 | Mike-N-Go | GetGroupLeaderUnit() of what group, your group, someone else's group?? |
| 08:04.03 | AnduinLothar | your group, duh. there's no api info for other groups you aren't in |
| 08:04.23 | Mike-N-Go | Really? |
| 08:05.04 | Mike-N-Go | Is there any difference between /run and /script in wow? |
| 08:05.13 | AnduinLothar | you can tell if they are grouped, but that's it |
| 08:05.30 | Iriel | Mike-N-Go: No (run/script are the same) |
| 08:06.15 | Mike-N-Go | Why are there 2 then? |
| 08:07.04 | AnduinLothar | many macros have multiple commands |
| 08:08.20 | Mike-N-Go | Are you sure that GetGroupLeaderUnit() exists? |
| 08:08.46 | AnduinLothar | lol. "PartyLeader() would definitely be useful" |
| 08:09.22 | AnduinLothar | no. I made it up. Said It would be useful |
| 08:09.28 | Mike-N-Go | :P |
| 08:09.51 | Mike-N-Go | And here I was trying GetGroupLeaderUnit() this whole time... |
| 08:19.24 | Mike-N-Go | Whoot |
| 08:19.35 | Mike-N-Go | I got it by myself: /run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(UnitName("party"..GetPartyMember(GetPartyLeaderIndex()))) |
| 08:19.58 | AnduinLothar | nice |
| 08:20.14 | AnduinLothar | ah, forgot about GetPartyLeaderIndex() |
| 08:20.35 | Mike-N-Go | That puts the partyleader's name in the default chat farme. |
| 08:20.58 | Iriel | What if YOU are the party leader? |
| 08:21.00 | Mike-N-Go | AnduinLothar: Look at the innermost function. |
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| 08:21.23 | Mike-N-Go | Well, I thought about that, let me type it up for you :) |
| 08:22.20 | Mike-N-Go | --/run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(UnitName("party"..GetPartyMember(GetPartyLeaderIndex())) or "me") |
| 08:22.23 | Mike-N-Go | I think. |
| 08:22.47 | Mike-N-Go | Err, let me look into that. |
| 08:23.30 | Mike-N-Go | Can you put if's and then's nested inside of functions? |
| 08:25.05 | Mike-N-Go | I knew that original statment would not work if your the leader, because "player" is not part of "partyx" |
| 08:25.39 | Mike-N-Go | I tried --/run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(if not UnitIsPartyLeader("player") then (UnitName("party"..GetPartyMember(GetPartyLeaderIndex())) else "me") :O |
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| 08:30.35 | Industrial | Mike-N-Go: thats not very readable programming |
| 08:30.55 | Industrial | its better to make a local var with a correctly indented if before printing that var in the AddMessage() |
| 08:31.00 | Mike-N-Go | Well, it has to fit inside the wow text chat point... |
| 08:31.11 | ckknight | also, you can't do if statements inside function calls like that. |
| 08:31.36 | Mike-N-Go | Just seeing what happens, best way to learn :) |
| 08:31.56 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.05 | Mike-N-Go | --/script if UnitIsPartyLeader("player") then; DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("me"); else; DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(UnitName("party"..GetPartyMember(GetPartyLeaderIndex()))); end |
| 08:32.17 | Mike-N-Go | Is what I just tried, it has errors. |
| 08:32.33 | Mike-N-Go | "unexpected symbol near ':'" |
| 08:32.44 | Mike-N-Go | Witch semicolon? |
| 08:32.45 | Mike-N-Go | lol |
| 08:33.07 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/2699 |
| 08:33.22 | ckknight | don't use semicolons |
| 08:33.47 | Industrial | missed a ) there |
| 08:33.51 | zenzelezz | should you use ; after "then"? |
| 08:34.02 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/2700 |
| 08:34.05 | Mike-N-Go | You have to, to input it at the text point, right? |
| 08:34.18 | Industrial | no, semicolons are not needed. see my pastey |
| 08:34.39 | Industrial | they are only there to distinguish between commands written on the same line, wich is bad practise itself. |
| 08:34.59 | Industrial | (and you dont have to use them there too) |
| 08:35.17 | Mike-N-Go | What I mean, is copying it directly to a macro, or the text box in wow, so I don't have to reload UI. |
| 08:35.26 | Mike-N-Go | ~devtools |
| 08:35.36 | purl | well, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta |
| 08:35.36 | Mike-N-Go | Makes it easer. |
| 08:35.48 | Mike-N-Go | Oh. |
| 08:36.19 | Industrial | ~tinypad |
| 08:36.34 | Industrial | .. |
| 08:36.46 | Mike-N-Go | ~Mike-N-Go |
| 08:36.50 | purl | [mike-n-go] the n00blet that could.. The author of AutoMailDirector, available on WoWI |
| 08:36.50 | Industrial | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1718 |
| 08:37.14 | Industrial | you can execute a page as a lua script |
| 08:37.18 | Industrial | even easier! |
| 08:37.20 | Industrial | ;) |
| 08:37.46 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, cool, Industrial, I have been wanting a scratch pad for inside lua. |
| 08:38.00 | Industrial | its been there for like 1.5 years :> |
| 08:38.05 | Mike-N-Go | ~Industrial |
| 08:38.07 | purl | Hey I feel like mounting you babeh... but I dont know exactly where to put it |
| 08:38.22 | Mike-N-Go | 9.9 |
| 08:39.15 | Industrial | -_- |
| 08:39.19 | Industrial | who put that in there |
| 08:39.25 | Industrial | ~literal Industrial |
| 08:39.27 | purl | "industrial" is "<reply>Hey I feel like mounting you babeh... but I dont know exactly where to put it" |
| 08:39.30 | Industrial | ~literal emulate Industrial |
| 08:39.32 | purl | "emulate industrial" is "<reply> (Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!|and now I'm high o/|omgz wat uf in dat ui?!?!1123|Woo, first day at school. Stoned!|It doesnt matter if you win or lose, until you lose.|Mikma says I CBA, guess hes right.|Addon users are addicts.|DIY!)" |
| 08:39.37 | Industrial | ~forget Industrial |
| 08:39.50 | Mikma | ogm teh industrial |
| 08:39.59 | Industrial | purl: no, forget Industrial |
| 08:40.14 | Mikma | it's propably too old to forget |
| 08:40.16 | Industrial | purl: no, Industrial is |
| 08:40.25 | Industrial | wtf is that? too old... |
| 08:40.31 | Industrial | lame? |
| 08:40.35 | Thunder_Child | purl, no, forget Industrial |
| 08:40.52 | Mike-N-Go | purl, forget Industrial |
| 08:41.06 | Mike-N-Go | "cannot remove factoid 'industrial', too old. (13476.361712963>3600) use 'no,' instead" |
| 08:41.16 | Industrial | whatever |
| 08:41.45 | Mike-N-Go | ~industrial |
| 08:41.48 | purl | Hey I feel like mounting you babeh... but I dont know exactly where to put it |
| 08:41.51 | Mike-N-Go | purl, no Industrial |
| 08:42.02 | Mike-N-Go | That is scary :| |
| 08:42.10 | Mike-N-Go | ~industrial |
| 08:42.13 | purl | Hey I feel like mounting you babeh... but I dont know exactly where to put it |
| 08:42.13 | ckknight | purl, no, industrial is a monkey |
| 08:42.17 | purl | okay, ckknight |
| 08:42.20 | Industrial | yay |
| 08:42.31 | Mike-N-Go | ~industrial |
| 08:42.33 | purl | rumour has it, industrial is a monkey |
| 08:42.43 | Industrial | purl, no, Industrial is a coder-monkey |
| 08:42.45 | purl | Industrial: okay |
| 08:42.46 | Industrial | =] |
| 08:42.50 | ckknight | okay, that works. |
| 08:43.10 | Thunder_Child | should be coder-monkey's assistant |
| 08:43.11 | Mike-N-Go | That is much better, we don't want to scare the kids. |
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| 08:44.33 | ckknight | to all you Gatherer users: Cartographer now has Gatherer-style notes for mines and herbs. |
| 08:44.39 | Industrial | asdfklasf;kjsad;fjkas |
| 08:44.41 | Industrial | ;lkjasfdjkas;ldfjk |
| 08:44.54 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 08:45.01 | ckknight | Industrial, why aren't you in #wowace? |
| 08:45.08 | Thunder_Child | ckknight i love Cartographer |
| 08:45.15 | Industrial | er, im not? |
| 08:45.32 | ckknight | weird, nvm, tab didn't work the first time |
| 08:46.04 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, :-) |
| 08:46.10 | ckknight | been adding a whole lot of cool stuff recently |
| 08:46.17 | ckknight | all still nice and efficient, though |
| 08:46.28 | Thunder_Child | the transparency i great |
| 08:46.33 | Thunder_Child | is* |
| 08:46.44 | Thunder_Child | just the map and nothing else |
| 08:46.49 | Mike-N-Go | Thunder_Child, watch |
| 08:46.51 | ckknight | :-) |
| 08:47.06 | Mike-N-Go | Thunder_Child: the transparency i great |
| 08:47.12 | Mike-N-Go | s/i/is/ |
| 08:47.21 | ckknight | lol, Mike-N-Go |
| 08:47.28 | ckknight | kinda failed that one |
| 08:47.31 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: what? |
| 08:47.32 | ckknight | good effort, though. |
| 08:47.45 | ckknight | look what it turned into... |
| 08:47.46 | Mike-N-Go | What did I fail? |
| 08:47.58 | ckknight | <purl> Mike-N-Go meant: Thunder_Chisld: the transparency i great |
| 08:48.02 | ckknight | Thunder_Chisld |
| 08:48.08 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 08:48.10 | Mike-N-Go | :( |
| 08:48.18 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, retry. |
| 08:48.20 | ckknight | hence the lack of success |
| 08:48.23 | Mike-N-Go | Thunder_Child: the transparency i great |
| 08:48.24 | Thunder_Child | i know about that Mike-N-Go but i am in DM and didt have time for that |
| 08:48.35 | zenzelezz | personally I find "*<correction>" easier to read than the full sentence repeated in most cases |
| 08:48.37 | Mike-N-Go | s/y i g/y is g/ |
| 08:48.46 | Mike-N-Go | ~botsnack |
| 08:48.46 | purl | :), Mike-N-Go |
| 08:48.53 | ckknight | zenzelezz, I agree |
| 08:48.59 | ckknight | though I tend to put * at the end |
| 08:49.03 | ckknight | example: |
| 08:49.07 | ckknight | monkyes |
| 08:49.10 | ckknight | monkeys* |
| 08:49.23 | zenzelezz | they both work =) Only a matter of habit where you place it |
| 08:49.32 | Mike-N-Go | Either way. |
| 08:49.39 | Mike-N-Go | As long as it is corrected. |
| 08:50.22 | Thunder_Child | i did correct it |
| 08:50.37 | Thunder_Child | but the other way is to long in the middle of DM on the last boss |
| 08:51.31 | Mike-N-Go | ~moo |
| 08:51.37 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 08:51.47 | Mike-N-Go | :( |
| 08:52.00 | Mike-N-Go | More 'explicit' content. |
| 08:53.49 | Mike-N-Go | Industrial, thank you for your example. |
| 08:54.19 | Mike-N-Go | And why did you use "sOut" as the var? |
| 08:54.49 | Mike-N-Go | And why do most author-made vars have a lower letter at the front? |
| 08:54.58 | zenzelezz | datatype |
| 08:55.17 | Mike-N-Go | ~datatype |
| 08:55.20 | zenzelezz | sOut is probably a string for or from output |
| 08:55.31 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict datatype |
| 08:55.39 | Mike-N-Go | :( |
| 08:55.56 | gnorlish | v-*+ |
| 08:56.50 | zenzelezz | Mike-N-Go: basically what type of content is in the variable; in other languages (like C) a variable hold a specific kind of value |
| 08:58.46 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.56 | Industrial | I like naming things as why they are used |
| 08:59.01 | Industrial | its a string, and its output |
| 08:59.05 | Industrial | sOut |
| 08:59.30 | ckknight | hungarian notation ftl. |
| 08:59.43 | Mike-N-Go | Would it be better, to put your chunk in it's own function, or in the main function? |
| 09:00.10 | zenzelezz | I like the general idea of hungarian notation, but not the one proposed/used by Microsoft |
| 09:00.20 | zenzelezz | take your LPCTSTR someplace else |
| 09:01.00 | Industrial | its probably not very cool to use with C++, unsigned int blah this that - too many names |
| 09:01.07 | Nom- | beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer o'clock |
| 09:01.09 | Industrial | but lua is simple so the notation is simple |
| 09:01.21 | Industrial | you can even use f for frame :) |
| 09:03.19 | Industrial | Mike-N-Go: but thats a very personal thing and stuff like that will grow on you over time :p |
| 09:03.43 | Mike-N-Go | Because, I don't know what to do! |
| 09:03.51 | Mike-N-Go | I can't decide. |
| 09:03.56 | Mike-N-Go | Give me a few days.... |
| 09:08.18 | Mike-N-Go | What is the difference for using "" or '' on a var? |
| 09:08.38 | AnduinLothar | nothing |
| 09:08.51 | AnduinLothar | cept which one you have to escape inside it |
| 09:09.05 | Mike-N-Go | The " |
| 09:09.13 | Mike-N-Go | As in \" |
| 09:11.26 | krka | "hello \"world\"" and 'hello "world"' are the same string |
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| 09:18.36 | Industrial | like i said, its personal preference |
| 09:18.40 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I have the slash command to add the purpose to the message, and order the levels into the classes. |
| 09:20.04 | Mike-N-Go | Now, how to order... any ideas? |
| 09:25.38 | Mike-N-Go | Well, I need to sleep, thank you for help. I think I will have this LFG/LFM helper ready for public consumption by sunday 8) |
| 09:25.53 | Industrial | cya |
| 09:26.13 | Mike-N-Go | Industrial: Thank you. |
| 09:28.18 | Mike-N-Go | I have an Apple Script set up inside of Automator to quit wow after the AFK timer triggers, 1740 seconds currently (tell application "World of Warcraft" to quit [line] tell application "Finder" to sleep) 8) |
| 09:28.52 | Mike-N-Go | So, I can scan with auctioneer+suite and not worry about WoW staying up all night. |
| 09:30.04 | Tem | I hope you get banned |
| 09:30.45 | Tem | oh, I read that wrong |
| 09:31.05 | Tem | also, you know that wow auto-logs you out after 20-30ish minutes, right? |
| 09:31.20 | Tem | and then after a while, it kicks you from the server altogether |
| 09:31.54 | Tem | so in the morning, WoW would still be open, but it would be at the opening screen with a "Disconnected from server" dialog |
| 09:32.12 | zenzelezz | I had that auto-logoff timer pop up the other day in a raid, after a wipe... but I can't for the life of me imagine that I had been inactive long enough for that to be supposed to happen |
| 09:32.44 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 09:34.39 | Kirkburn | Quick question - what the hell is up with the Terokkar PvP things? |
| 09:35.08 | zenzelezz | the whatnow? |
| 09:35.46 | Kirkburn | The 'spirit towers' |
| 09:38.03 | Tem|Sleep | Kirkburn, I don't understand them |
| 09:38.27 | Tem|Sleep | they capture just like the other towers, I assume |
| 09:38.46 | Tem|Sleep | but they seem to have a 7 or 8 hour reset time after you control all of them |
| 09:38.51 | Tem|Sleep | which is... odd |
| 09:39.07 | Kirkburn | Oh, that's *hours*?! |
| 09:39.12 | Tem|Sleep | yeah, I think so |
| 09:39.31 | Kirkburn | Wow, that's stupid - currently these will be neutral for another 1hr 24mins |
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| 11:18.30 | XLVII | Anyone mind answering a few questions about Horde Rogues for me? |
| 11:23.53 | Miravlix | Whats so special about horde rogues, that its only those the questions is about? |
| 11:25.57 | Thardal | they have wotf :cry: |
| 11:32.45 | XLVII | Well, I'm trying to debate between Undead and Orc for pure PvE and Raiding. |
| 11:38.48 | Neebler | orc |
| 11:39.03 | Neebler | more str and have bloodfury which is being buffed in the expansion |
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| 12:45.37 | Mikma | cladhaire: hi |
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| 14:19.28 | hugo | hello |
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| 14:32.36 | Tain | Despite the fact that you pretty much knew what you were going to get I couldn't help but laugh out loud at the discussion on the fark thread, "What would happen if a bag of holding was placed inside the Tardis?" |
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| 14:40.33 | Mikma | Tain: hi |
| 14:40.50 | VoidRaider | hi :P |
| 14:41.16 | Mikma | Tain: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6297-Visor2.html |
| 14:42.29 | haste | Someone tranq him fast! |
| 14:42.31 | VoidRaider | Ahy images ? :) |
| 14:42.41 | VoidRaider | any* |
| 14:44.49 | VoidRaider | Anyone is working with VS2005 and LUA ? |
| 14:45.49 | haste | I use SciTE |
| 14:45.58 | haste | but so I have for everything the past years :D |
| 14:46.13 | VoidRaider | haha :) |
| 14:47.19 | VoidRaider | The plugin for VS2005 is not complete and there's so much bugs :P |
| 14:48.16 | Tain | I never get the Lua plugin to even work |
| 14:48.23 | VoidRaider | ahh :// |
| 14:48.56 | VoidRaider | I thought of writing one to VS2005 or fixing the current |
| 14:49.10 | Tain | Oh hope he gets Visor working well with Ace2. |
| 14:49.40 | VoidRaider | btw I'm the author of Spell Duration if someone knows :) |
| 14:50.00 | krka | i liked it better before when spells were instant |
| 14:50.25 | Kaso | maybe im being stupid. but howcome i cant find a TBC version of fubar anywhere |
| 14:50.47 | VoidRaider | I don't think thete is one |
| 14:50.52 | VoidRaider | dunno :// |
| 14:51.07 | VoidRaider | there* |
| 14:51.36 | Kaso | theres tonnes of tbc fubar plugins so i assume they must be using something |
| 14:51.47 | Tain | I did not know that I was a "A Deviate Faerie Dragon" |
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| 14:52.55 | VoidRaider | Mybe 2.0 works and you just need to do a TOC change ? :P |
| 14:53.14 | Kaso | hmm, ill give it a go |
| 14:54.01 | Tain | There are FuBar plugins for TBC so I'm going to assume that somewhere, somehow, FuBar works for TBC. |
| 14:54.25 | VoidRaider | yeah I guess so :P |
| 14:57.49 | VoidRaider | How much images can you upload to WoWInterface for each addon, I never created an account there and it seems awesome |
| 14:58.46 | Mery | You may attach up to 4 images. |
| 14:58.46 | Mery | Maximum image size is 1600 x 1600 or 1.17 MB. |
| 14:58.55 | VoidRaider | ahh :P |
| 14:59.12 | VoidRaider | thx |
| 14:59.18 | Mery | np :) |
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| 15:46.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys are dungion names like "Molten Core" the same in all localisations ? |
| 15:51.23 | [Cu]Werik | I don't think so |
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| 16:06.16 | Kaso | Cœur du Magma |
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| 16:11.13 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke np :P |
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| 16:38.57 | Kirkburn | Here's something to laugh at today: http://bink.nu/Article8932.bink :) |
| 16:39.51 | Kaso | haha |
| 16:40.12 | Kirkburn | Probably the stupidest thing I've read for a while :/ |
| 16:41.30 | Kaso | you clearly havent read about about the school down in hertfordshire thats banned wifi |
| 16:43.02 | Tem | oh? |
| 16:43.11 | Tem | how do you ban wifi? |
| 16:43.30 | Kaso | they removed the schools wifi network |
| 16:43.48 | Kaso | cos mothers were "concerned we dont know the full safety of this technology" |
| 16:44.36 | Tem | like |
| 16:44.38 | Kirkburn | Wha?! |
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| 16:44.48 | Kirkburn | Seriously, in hertfordshire? What town? |
| 16:44.53 | Kaso | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2461748,00.html <-- killer wifi |
| 16:44.58 | Tem | they were afraid that the wif would like fry the brains or something? |
| 16:45.11 | [Cu]Werik | wifi is pornable |
| 16:45.12 | Kirkburn | Oh ffs |
| 16:45.16 | Kaso | hmm, sussex, i appear to have gotten myself mixed up |
| 16:45.31 | Kirkburn | I want to travel to Chichester and kick their asses |
| 16:45.52 | Kirkburn | (my home town is in hertfordshire :) |
| 16:46.10 | Kirkburn | "But many parents and some scientists fear that low levels of microwave radiation emitted by the transmitters could be harmful, causing loss of concentration, headaches, fatigue, memory and behavioural problems and possibly cancer in the long term. Scientific evidence is inconclusive, but some researchers think that children are vulnerable because of their thinner skulls and developing nervous systems." |
| 16:46.20 | Kirkburn | I love when they just say 'scientists', as if it means something |
| 16:46.25 | Kaso | yah |
| 16:46.36 | Kirkburn | It's like the word 'experts' |
| 16:46.47 | Kaso | theres not one published paper finding any evidence whatsoever. |
| 16:46.53 | Kirkburn | Anyone can call themselves an expert, it doesn't make it true :/ |
| 16:46.58 | Tem | ooh, here's the best line ever |
| 16:47.17 | Tem | "I did not want Sebastian exposed to a wireless computer network at school. No real evidence has been produced to prove that this new technology is safe" |
| 16:47.33 | Kaso | mm, burden of proof is fun |
| 16:47.34 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 16:47.38 | kergoth | hahah |
| 16:47.41 | Kirkburn | Great, a complete ignorance of scientific method :/ |
| 16:47.52 | Tem | Yes, well, there's no conclusive evidence that your pillow is safe either |
| 16:48.04 | Tem | you afraid to use it too, now? |
| 16:48.06 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 16:48.11 | Kaso | im sure more people have been killed by pillows actually |
| 16:48.22 | Tem | lol, indeed |
| 16:49.01 | Tem | oh for crying out loud |
| 16:49.02 | zenzelezz | I'm not certain about the pillow (not accidental deaths anyhow), but getting out of bed is one of the most dangerous things you do each day |
| 16:49.16 | Tem | "Many people campaign against mobile phone masts near schools, but there is a great deal of ignorance about wireless computer networks. Yet they are like having a phone mast in the classroom and the transmitters are placed very close to the children." |
| 16:49.32 | Kirkburn | Is that the journalist writing that? |
| 16:49.37 | VoidRaider | technology chaos |
| 16:49.47 | Tem | it's a qyote from a dumbass parent |
| 16:49.57 | Tem | s/y/u/ |
| 16:49.58 | Kirkburn | Phew, otherwise I would have asked for him to be sacked |
| 16:50.01 | zenzelezz | tomorrow he'll be after radio |
| 16:50.33 | Tem | "Professor Sir William Stewart, chairman of the Health Protection Agency, said that evidence of potentially harmful effects of microwave radiation had become more persuasive over the past five years." |
| 16:50.33 | Kaso | i wonder how many orders of magitude a wifi router is lower in power than a mobile phone mast |
| 16:50.36 | Tem | What evidence? |
| 16:50.57 | Tem | god, these people are rediculous |
| 16:51.02 | Kirkburn | Well yes, microwaves *are* dangerous ... if you SIT IN A MICROWAVE |
| 16:51.38 | Tem | haha |
| 16:51.57 | Kirkburn | I wonder what set it off? |
| 16:52.10 | Kirkburn | Sounds like an urban myth problem |
| 16:52.15 | Kaso | i just fear the goverment will get pressued into wasting money on an investigation on this |
| 16:53.12 | Kirkburn | I was seething about that, poeple's lives were being put in danger by the irresponsible media, I just couldn't believe it |
| 16:54.36 | Kirkburn | One day, one day I hope that newspapers employ scientists to talk about science rather than a random journalist who knows NOTHING about what they speak. |
| 16:56.17 | Kirkburn | For those that don't know, about two years ago a paper was produced which suggested a link between the MMR jab (measles, mumps, rubella) and autism. For the next two years this paper was ridiculed and retracted (but mostly unreported by the media) - yet it results in a huge drop in people taking the vaccination. Thousands of children are now at risk of death because of it. /end rant |
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| 16:56.49 | kergoth | jesus |
| 16:56.53 | kergoth | people are dumbfucks |
| 16:57.02 | Kaso | mhmm |
| 16:57.13 | kergoth | i just wish they'd get themselves killed rather than their kids. preferably before they HAVE kids and pollute the gene pool |
| 16:57.28 | phyber | Tem: you think that's bad? visit wikipedia! |
| 16:57.44 | Tem | hahaha |
| 16:58.50 | haste | kergoth: I was going to reply in that conversation, but I decided it was better to stay silent :) |
| 17:04.40 | Kirkburn | argh argh argh argh :P /me goes and reads a book |
| 17:04.53 | kergoth | <TD> well you can't blame parents for being scared of something as new and unproven as RADIO |
| 17:06.44 | zenzelezz | careful Kirkburn, didn't you hear? Scientists have proven that books are used to spread mindless propaganda! |
| 17:07.06 | Tain | That's why if I ever had kids I'd ban books from the house! |
| 17:09.07 | [Liquidor] | Any way to detect how long your pc has been online using Windows? (not IRC related) |
| 17:10.05 | zenzelezz | you mean connected to the Internet? |
| 17:10.58 | Mery | You should just declare yourself an expert and claim that wireless networks actually increase concentration! |
| 17:12.30 | Thunder_Child | they do, they concentrate iritation quite nicely |
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| 17:18.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | do ineed ot make a frame to place a button on the ui ? |
| 17:19.14 | kergoth | a button IS a frame. see the documentation on wowwikii |
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| 17:23.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | k i jsut askd since i tryed to create a bottun just a button but i cant see it :p |
| 17:23.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | can u see wut i did wrong ? http://wowi.pastey.net/2705]\ |
| 17:24.02 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://wowi.pastey.net/2705 |
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| 17:26.23 | Kaso | dont you need to SetAllPoints() your texture? |
| 17:26.26 | Xuerian | Without looking, I'm gonna say you didn't give it textures. It's as button even if you can't see it ;P |
| 17:28.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | i ued createTexture on it |
| 17:30.01 | Kaso | try doing http://wowi.pastey.net/2706 |
| 17:32.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | didnt help much |
| 17:32.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | bertter say not at all :*( |
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| 17:36.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | hahha thanks Xuerian i needed to use frame:SetNormalTexture instead of frame:CreateTexture |
| 17:37.10 | Xuerian | Heheh |
| 17:37.39 | Cide | CreateTexture just creates an anonymous texture.. if you want it to behave in a special way you need to use a method (in this case SetNormalTexture) :) |
| 17:38.13 | Cide | |Shadow|: if he's not around here, chances are he won't show up |
| 17:39.38 | |Shadow| | :( |
| 17:39.49 | |Shadow| | he wrote a cool addon which automatically arranges the buttons on your minimap |
| 17:39.58 | |Shadow| | but it hasn't been updated for a long time and its starting to become buggy |
| 17:40.05 | |Shadow| | maybe someone should continue working on his addon :) |
| 17:40.26 | Cide | |Shadow|: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=18482 |
| 17:41.07 | Cairenn | |Shadow|: as seen by the link Cide just posted ... you have no idea what you are talking about :p |
| 17:41.19 | Cairenn | |Shadow|: there's already an updated version out for BC Beta |
| 17:41.29 | |Shadow| | oh |
| 17:41.46 | |Shadow| | i notice something with your registration page which is really irritateing |
| 17:41.47 | Cairenn | and abacus for live is pretty well current too |
| 17:42.00 | |Shadow| | when you enter your email address the background of the box is bright yellow |
| 17:42.04 | |Shadow| | and the text is white |
| 17:42.09 | |Shadow| | end result is you can't see what your typing |
| 17:42.11 | Cairenn | turn off google's auto-fillin |
| 17:42.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | how do i make my frame (bottun) drag drop / moveable ? |
| 17:43.53 | Cide | :SetMovable(true) and then call :StartMoving() when you want to start dragging it, and :StopMovingOrSizing() when you want to stop |
| 17:45.16 | Cairenn | |Shadow|: did you see what I said? |
| 17:46.06 | |Shadow| | yes |
| 17:46.12 | |Shadow| | googles auto fillin? |
| 17:46.15 | |Shadow| | i've never heard of it |
| 17:46.52 | |Shadow| | i signed up now anyways :) |
| 17:47.04 | Cairenn | do you use either google or yahoo's toolbar? it's an option on both of them, and it's them that causes that, not our site |
| 17:47.20 | |Shadow| | Cairenn no i only use imageshack toolbar |
| 17:47.23 | |Shadow| | for firefox |
| 17:47.31 | Cairenn | probably has the same thing though |
| 17:48.00 | Cairenn | I ran into the same problem, and went bitching to Dolby about it, and he clued me into what it actually was, hence my knowing precisely what you were talking about |
| 17:48.03 | |Shadow| | maybe |
| 17:48.21 | Cairenn | and I checked via other sites, and sure enough, same problem |
| 17:48.56 | Cairenn | anyway, yeah, JIM is still around and active, no worries :) |
| 17:50.42 | |Shadow| | the square minimap function on it is bugged then :( |
| 17:50.49 | |Shadow| | i just downloaded the latest from wowinterface to make sure |
| 17:51.06 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?uid=18482 |
| 17:51.12 | Cairenn | so tell him :) |
| 17:51.44 | |Shadow| | ok :P |
| 17:51.53 | Cairenn | and on that note, I'm out for the afternoon, later guys |
| 18:01.22 | Thunder_Child | come back Cairenn, you dont get time off for good behavior |
| 18:02.15 | |Shadow| | lol i seriously need something to sort out my mini map icons in any way shape or form |
| 18:04.44 | Neebler | dfm |
| 18:05.00 | |Shadow| | dfm? |
| 18:05.24 | Neebler | Discord Frame Modifier. www.discordmods.com |
| 18:05.53 | Neebler | change every aspect of the UI, and then some |
| 18:05.57 | Thunder_Child | try http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5367 |
| 18:06.33 | |Shadow| | Neebler i have moveanything |
| 18:06.44 | |Shadow| | its just that i have about 30 minimap buttons and it'll take ages to arrange them manually |
| 18:06.57 | Neebler | what thunder child linked is what you're looking for |
| 18:06.59 | Cide | get fewer addons :) |
| 18:07.12 | Neebler | and DFM isn't similar to moveanything |
| 18:07.37 | |Shadow| | sounds good to me |
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| 18:08.06 | Thunder_Child | what i linked still reqiures manual arangement but its in the form of shift+click to move them |
| 18:08.15 | Thunder_Child | and they stay where thay get move to |
| 18:08.20 | Thunder_Child | they* |
| 18:08.39 | |Shadow| | :) |
| 18:10.51 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 18:11.10 | Cairenn | wb ckknight |
| 18:11.11 | Thunder_Child | of cource after useing that mod, and seeing my crooked arangement i then wanted a mod that could create line anywhere you want them in any directins that have "snap to edges" |
| 18:11.49 | Thunder_Child | s/create/create a/ |
| 18:12.21 | Thunder_Child | i use the fact that i have been up for 23 hours to excuse my bad typeing/spelling |
| 18:16.21 | |Shadow| | http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1448/wow2006112418142829pi9.jpg |
| 18:16.25 | |Shadow| | my mini map button collection :D |
| 18:17.22 | grimman | You make me cry inside, |Shadow|. |
| 18:17.38 | snurre- | 96.4MiB o.O |
| 18:17.42 | Neebler | bwahahaah |
| 18:17.46 | Thunder_Child | |Shadow| work harder, you may beable to get him to cry on the outside as well |
| 18:18.37 | Neebler | I think you need more bloated memory hog addons. Try out RDX |
| 18:19.02 | snurre- | and make sure you use DAB and ctra |
| 18:19.14 | Neebler | Cide's in here! |
| 18:19.18 | |Shadow| | i use dab |
| 18:19.20 | |Shadow| | and ctra |
| 18:19.31 | grimman | I would start suggesting addons as well, but I only use lean stuff. |
| 18:19.33 | grimman | Sorry. |
| 18:19.47 | Cide | I am? |
| 18:19.50 | Tain | Make sure you get the pay version of RDX too just to make your experience complete. |
| 18:20.05 | Cide | and yes, ctra is somewhat memory heavy |
| 18:20.07 | Cide | ctra2, is not |
| 18:20.18 | Neebler | sexy |
| 18:20.31 | Neebler | how goes the testing of ctra2? |
| 18:20.38 | Cide | we'll see |
| 18:20.47 | Thunder_Child | not as sexy as talking about it |
| 18:20.53 | Neebler | that's a vague responce |
| 18:21.05 | |Shadow| | what exactly does rdx do? |
| 18:21.19 | snurre- | makes you look cool and elite |
| 18:21.29 | Cide | Neebler: any politician will tell you that vague responses are they key to success |
| 18:21.32 | |Shadow| | :| |
| 18:21.45 | Cide | s/they/the/ |
| 18:21.51 | Cide | rdx is another raid addon |
| 18:23.12 | Neebler | but seriously Shadow, I see you have 30fps standing in that one spot. Try disabling every addon you use and watch your FPS jump to 50+ in that spot |
| 18:23.35 | |Shadow| | Neebler yea i know |
| 18:23.40 | |Shadow| | but i like the addons |
| 18:23.51 | Cide | 30 fps is not bad |
| 18:23.53 | |Shadow| | and tbh i could tell the diffrence between 30-50fps...provideing i don't get lag spikes im ok |
| 18:24.12 | Cide | and memory usage is not directly related to fps anyway |
| 18:24.44 | Cide | actually, it really isn't at all in most cases |
| 18:25.06 | |Shadow| | memory usage is no problem for me |
| 18:25.17 | |Shadow| | i have 2gb ddr2 and i only use about 1.2gb |
| 18:27.20 | Neebler | addons aren't just about ram usage, but CPU usage too |
| 18:27.28 | Neebler | especially in raids |
| 18:27.42 | Neebler | with a whole lot of data flying in |
| 18:28.19 | |Shadow| | in mc at raggy i was hovering around 90% cpu |
| 18:28.20 | Cide | Neebler: right |
| 18:28.26 | |Shadow| | i was hitting 100% every now and again which wasn't great |
| 18:28.29 | Cide | but a lot of addons doesn't mean a lot of cpu-intensive tasks |
| 18:29.24 | Kirkburn | Feel I should mention, if people haven't checked in the last few mins - wowace.com is back :) |
| 18:29.36 | zenzelezz | it was down? |
| 18:29.42 | Kirkburn | Uh, yeah |
| 18:29.46 | Kirkburn | Like for the last day |
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| 18:38.04 | Tain | Wow, http://uncyclopedia.org/ is pretty fun. It's like wikipedia without the pesky editors and "fact checkign" |
| 18:38.58 | zenzelezz | I like their entry on the external combustion engine (among others) |
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| 18:40.57 | Tain | I just can't stop hitting, "Random page" |
| 18:41.21 | Thunder_Child | just call it as it is, it's all the stuff you wish you could put into wikipedia but cant |
| 18:41.39 | Tain | "Founded in the year 2505, New Somalia will be the world's first wikocracy, a nation with a government that anyone can edit" |
| 18:42.45 | zenzelezz | I thought most developing countries were like that already... except they call it corruption |
| 18:43.44 | Thunder_Child | ah, but not everyone can edit them |
| 18:44.19 | zenzelezz | true |
| 18:44.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Tain, http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Kitten_huffing |
| 18:45.40 | zenzelezz | "Many people claim that Guild Wars is better than World of Warcraft. However, Jesus himself testified that Guild Wars sucks. He gave it a rating of -2 / 10. God, Santa, Chuck Norris and Oscar Wilde agree with him." |
| 18:45.47 | zenzelezz | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/World_of_warcraft |
| 18:46.13 | Tain | heh good stuff all around |
| 18:47.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Little can compare to kitten huffing. |
| 18:47.46 | Kaso | one thing i love is the respecitve articles on uncyclopedia and wikipedia |
| 18:48.04 | Kaso | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncyclopedia |
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| 18:53.41 | Tain | "This article is a pile of crap. The article submitter may also have been huffing kittens . You can help Uncyclopedia by whipping it into shape" |
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| 19:43.36 | Kaso | http://youtube.com/watch?v=s8k5GcBfnDk |
| 19:43.39 | Kaso | i love QI |
| 19:44.36 | Kaso | i love jimmy carr too |
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| 20:04.19 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, Kaso... check out http://youtube.com/watch?v=E3I1eS6xpLM |
| 20:04.24 | Neuro_Medivh | NSFW |
| 20:05.29 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 20:05.35 | Kaso | i remeber that when it was on tv |
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| 20:30.27 | Mike-N-Go | Tem :) |
| 20:30.39 | Tem | hmm? |
| 20:31.04 | Mike-N-Go | I saw that you hoped I get banned because I have a script that quits wow a while after the afk timer kicks in. |
| 20:31.11 | Mike-N-Go | All it does, is that. |
| 20:31.16 | Tem | no, I read it wrong the first time |
| 20:31.17 | zenzelezz | reread what Tem said |
| 20:31.20 | zenzelezz | he corrected himself |
| 20:31.28 | Mike-N-Go | So WoW does not stay open all night. |
| 20:31.35 | Tem | what difference? |
| 20:31.35 | Mike-N-Go | And, my computer goes to sleep. |
| 20:31.40 | Tem | ah, ok |
| 20:32.34 | Mike-N-Go | Just prevents the CPU from running while idleing, and allows me to scan the AH, nothing happens until the defined seconds after the afk timer kicks in. |
| 20:32.51 | Mike-N-Go | And, I don't have that transcript open, zenzelezz. |
| 20:33.05 | Tem | like I said, I read it wrong originally |
| 20:33.12 | Mike-N-Go | OK :| |
| 20:33.51 | Tem | I read it as a "I have a script that starts wow and scans the AH periodically during the night" |
| 20:35.31 | Mike-N-Go | I set it manual to do that, and then engage the script that quits wow. |
| 20:36.29 | Tem | right |
| 20:36.52 | Tem | gimme a break, it was like 2 in the morning and I was operating on 4 hours of sleep |
| 20:37.02 | Mike-N-Go | :P |
| 20:37.21 | Mike-N-Go | Aren't we all.... |
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| 20:43.06 | Mike-N-Go | Just wanted to make sure you did not mis-inturpet what I said. |
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| 23:14.08 | Seracht | Hey |
| 23:14.17 | Seracht | anyone here know any Ace mods similar to Nurfed Combat Log? |
| 23:15.37 | Tem | Try EavesDrop |
| 23:15.49 | Tem | it's not exactly what you're thinking of, but I like it much better |
| 23:19.14 | Cide | (obligatory comment: Tivoli is a great mod author, Nurfed Combat Log is not worse than any Ace alternative, although there may be Ace alternatives with other functionality like the one Tem mentioned) |
| 23:19.37 | Tem | sure it is |
| 23:19.46 | Tem | Nurfed camped me |
| 23:20.26 | Tem | therefore they make sub-standard mods |
| 23:20.45 | Cide | haha |
| 23:20.53 | Cide | he /greet'd me :) |
| 23:21.07 | Tem | Tivoli specificly was the dick |
| 23:21.18 | Tem | course that's because I'm a mage and he's fucking shadow priest |
| 23:21.50 | Tem | it was real classy too |
| 23:21.57 | Tem | back when coming out of the arena made you flagged |
| 23:22.12 | Cide | oh, they're all hardcore pvpers as you witnessed! |
| 23:22.18 | Tem | *eyeroll* |
| 23:22.21 | Cide | a friend of mine... |
| 23:22.27 | Tem | our WSG team annihilates them |
| 23:22.33 | Cide | which team? |
| 23:22.35 | Tem | but we suck at AB |
| 23:22.41 | Cide | they've been beaten in WSG once in the past few months |
| 23:22.43 | Cide | or twice |
| 23:22.53 | Tem | this was a long while back |
| 23:23.05 | Tem | when Xrealm first opened |
| 23:23.18 | Cide | ya, they've been beaten by one team since then afaik |
| 23:23.30 | Cide | anyway, he's a priest with tank gear... http://ctprofiles.net/US-Dethecus/Vhellol |
| 23:23.30 | Tem | we can't be the only team to beat them |
| 23:23.36 | Cide | you pretty much are |
| 23:23.59 | Tem | nah |
| 23:24.08 | Tem | their healing was too easy to break up |
| 23:24.14 | Cide | heh |
| 23:24.16 | Cide | what's your team? |
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| 23:24.28 | Tem | I havne't rolled with them in ages |
| 23:26.00 | Tem | I believe we were 3 warriors, 2 mages, a druid, and the rest I don't recall exactly |
| 23:26.27 | Tem | I wanna say 2 pallies a hunter and rogue |
| 23:27.04 | Tem | er maybe 3 pallies? |
| 23:27.06 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 23:27.30 | Tem | I remember clam and buttah were definately with us |
| 23:27.46 | Tem | but I don't remember if denethor was or not |
| 23:30.24 | Mike-N-Go | What is afaik? |
| 23:30.28 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.32 | Tuller | as far as I know |
| 23:33.40 | Saeris | Why does "for link in string.gmatch(arg1, "(:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+%d+:%d+:%d+\124h%[[^%]]+%])") do" not work on a standard item link in the expansion API? It worked fine in the classic API. All I did was add four %d+ expressions to account for the four gem slot IDs. |
| 23:37.02 | Saeris | It seems to match just fine up until the "\124h" portion. |
| 23:37.22 | Tem | Why do people insist on using the interators when they don't need to? |
| 23:37.46 | Saeris | What? |
| 23:38.20 | Saeris | This is for parsing a chat message. There can be multiple item links in one chat message. It seems logical to use the iterator. |
| 23:38.34 | Tem | okay |
| 23:38.44 | Tem | was assuming a different arg1 |
| 23:38.50 | Saeris | Ah, sorry about that. |
| 23:39.15 | Tem | it doesn't work in TBC because the link pattern has changed |
| 23:39.23 | Tem | the integers can now be negative |
| 23:39.37 | Saeris | Ah, right. Forgot about that. Thanks. |
| 23:41.44 | Tem | also, there's only 3 gem slots |
| 23:41.58 | Tem | the 4th is for the socket bonus |
| 23:42.11 | Seracht | how you guys liking BC? |
| 23:43.03 | Tem | I have no desire to code for or play live anymore |
| 23:43.13 | Saeris | It's very well designed from what I've seen so far. I much prefer the API as well. |
| 23:43.47 | Seracht | I meant the game |
| 23:43.48 | Seracht | heh |
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| 23:43.54 | Seracht | one more question |
| 23:44.02 | Seracht | with raiding |
| 23:44.11 | Seracht | do you think the dungeons in BC will be good for people who play a couple hours a day? |
| 23:44.13 | Seracht | like less than 2 |
| 23:44.35 | Saeris | Yes. |
| 23:46.14 | Saeris | I think the Wiki has a lot of the information you seem to be seeking. |
| 23:52.46 | ckknight | back |
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