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| 00:10.14 | Saroz | Anyone on tempest keep got a test raid going? |
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| 00:41.16 | End | woot 8/8 SR |
| 00:42.18 | AnduinLothar | grats |
| 00:42.33 | End | thanks :) |
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| 01:05.03 | Tem | DAMNIT! |
| 01:05.20 | Tem | I was fighting a level 32 rare with my level 26 shaman |
| 01:05.22 | Tem | and winning |
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| 01:05.25 | Tem | got him to 30% |
| 01:05.37 | Tem | and some random add came in and owned me |
| 01:06.36 | End | ouch |
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| 01:08.47 | Maldivia | http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9105/tunnlea7.swf :) |
| 01:09.23 | Tem | and now I can't find the bastard |
| 01:10.06 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know of something like GetPartyLeaderIndex() that would work under raid? GetRaidLeaderIndex() does not work. |
| 01:11.02 | Maldivia | test GetRaidRosterInfo(index) return values, for 1 to GetNumRaidMembers() |
| 01:11.17 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks |
| 01:12.21 | End | Tem: that random add finished him off and stole all the lewt ;p |
| 01:12.29 | Mike-N-Go | That be what I am looking for. |
| 01:13.22 | Tem | worst part is the add agroed my totems |
| 01:13.39 | Teomyr | doh |
| 01:13.41 | Teomyr | that sucks |
| 01:28.28 | Mike-N-Go | Maldivia, what is index? |
| 01:29.25 | Maldivia | for i=1, GetNumRaidMembers() do local name, rank GetRaidRosterInfo(i) if rank == 2 then message(name .. " is the leader") break end end |
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| 01:31.31 | Mike-N-Go_ | index == i ? |
| 01:32.17 | Maldivia | the raid index, yes - number between 1 and 40 |
| 01:37.28 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks Maldivia |
| 01:38.06 | Mike-N-Go | Can you explain why you used break, that was kina fuzzy to me in pil and the manual. |
| 01:38.29 | Maldivia | there's only one leader, when i've found the leader, there's no reason to continue the loop |
| 01:38.46 | Mike-N-Go | And, what about the assistants? |
| 01:39.13 | Maldivia | they have rank == 1 |
| 01:39.30 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks again. |
| 01:39.47 | Maldivia | but ofcourse, if trying to find both leader and assistants, you can't break |
| 01:44.47 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I think I got this. |
| 01:46.28 | Mike-N-Go | Do you have any suggustions for how to order levels into classes, IE: 'Level 5 Mage Level 8 Mage Level 6 Hunter' to 'Level 5, 8 Mage Level 6 Hunter' |
| 01:47.05 | Tem | >< |
| 01:47.09 | Tem | I killed the level 32 elite |
| 01:47.16 | Tem | with my level 26 shaman |
| 01:47.24 | Mike-N-Go | From UnitLevel() and UnitClass() |
| 01:47.43 | Tem | he dropped a bow |
| 01:51.25 | Tem | so, in conclusion, Gift of the Naaru + Mana tide totem = overpowered |
| 01:51.42 | Osagasu | I bet. |
| 01:51.53 | Osagasu | But trust me... |
| 01:52.05 | Osagasu | As a 26 Shaman I could do the same thing. |
| 01:52.13 | Osagasu | Tauren |
| 01:54.06 | Tem | how? |
| 01:55.03 | Tem | the only way I was able to do it was by using the GotN to regen mana |
| 01:56.19 | Tem | without the regen time allowed by the HoT, I'd have gone oom around 80% |
| 01:59.17 | Osagasu | Wait, no. I was either 28 or 29 |
| 01:59.44 | Osagasu | Terribly difficult, I know. |
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| 02:17.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 02:17.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | is anyone having problems with /castsequence and spells with cooldowns? |
| 02:20.13 | Maldivia | the sequence only moves, when the spelll has neen cast |
| 02:20.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's hanging for me |
| 02:20.52 | Maldivia | hanging how |
| 02:21.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do /castsequence reset = target Faerie Fire(Feral), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)() |
| 02:21.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 02:21.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | reset=target |
| 02:21.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do /castsequence reset=target Faerie Fire(Feral)(), Mangle (Cat)(), Mangle (Cat)() |
| 02:21.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it just stops on faerie fire |
| 02:21.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | it never goes on to mangle |
| 02:22.05 | Maldivia | is FF being cast ? |
| 02:22.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 02:22.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i loop mangle cat a few more times |
| 02:22.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | just so it only does it once per target or per 40 sec or so |
| 02:22.52 | Maldivia | let me chech, have a suspecion |
| 02:23.46 | Maldivia | yep, fount it |
| 02:23.58 | Maldivia | you need to specify full rank |
| 02:24.06 | Maldivia | for spells with parenthesis |
| 02:24.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | but fff is casting fine |
| 02:24.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 02:25.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | without rank |
| 02:25.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | well its workinh |
| 02:25.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | cant argue with results |
| 02:26.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks :D |
| 02:27.15 | Maldivia | the sequence continues, when the event UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED is fired |
| 02:27.36 | Maldivia | it then checks all sequences for an entry that's either spell or spell(rank) |
| 02:27.43 | Maldivia | since you have spell() it doesn't find it |
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| 02:57.41 | Tem | okay |
| 02:57.46 | Tem | Far Sight is the coolest spell ever |
| 02:58.15 | Tem | I can't figure out what breaks it though |
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| 03:07.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem: rank 1 is very limited range and LoS |
| 03:08.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Rank 2 is 20k yard range, no LoS |
| 03:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, wait, Far Sight, not Mind Vision. |
| 03:08.58 | Kemayo | How much are flying mounts in the expansion costing nowadays? |
| 03:09.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ~200g iirc |
| 03:09.43 | Kemayo | Thanks. :) |
| 03:10.44 | Maldivia | 800g + 100g for the slow |
| 03:10.48 | Maldivia | 5000g + 200g for the fast |
| 03:13.57 | Thunder_Child | like the trainers need more money than the animal handlers...i just know there is going to be a strike |
| 03:17.37 | Garoun|Loupana | the non-epic should really be moved to lvl 68 |
| 03:18.03 | zenzelezz | are the flying mounts all level 70 req? |
| 03:18.07 | Garoun|Loupana | yes |
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| 03:31.34 | Esamynn | Garoun|Loupana: but then, Druids wouldn't be as special as are now! :P |
| 03:31.45 | Garoun|Loupana | I know, I play a druid remember :P |
| 03:32.01 | Garoun|Loupana | but then they could actually have people do the higher stuff :) |
| 03:32.09 | Garoun|Loupana | not that 10 druids are a bad thing |
| 03:33.37 | sylvanaar | 10 druids - have you seen the video |
| 03:34.07 | Garoun|Loupana | yep |
| 03:34.30 | sylvanaar | the music choice was excellet |
| 03:35.35 | sylvanaar | oh wait, i found a few now - looks like copycats - pun intended |
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| 03:44.12 | XLVII | Orc or Undead Rogue for pure raiding? I read somewhere that the Orc racial is going to be 'buffed' |
| 03:44.45 | XLVII | or is it worth waiting for Blood Elves? |
| 03:48.31 | Cide | XLVII: /script message({ "Orc", "Undead" })[math.random(1, 2)] |
| 03:48.56 | Cide | err |
| 03:50.17 | Cide | err not |
| 03:50.20 | Cide | or not* |
| 03:50.21 | zenzelezz | you scared him |
| 03:50.23 | Cide | god I can't type today |
| 03:50.47 | Cide | zenzelezz: apparently :P |
| 03:50.53 | Cide | my example was flawed anyway |
| 03:51.15 | kergoth | message(({"Orc", "Undead"})[math.random(1,2)]) -- no? |
| 03:51.59 | Cide | nope, errors |
| 03:52.07 | Cide | I'm actually not sure why |
| 03:52.45 | Cide | well |
| 03:53.15 | Cide | apparently it is working |
| 03:53.21 | Cide | BugSack is having a seizure |
| 03:54.13 | Cide | catching my message() calls as bugs for whatever reason |
| 03:54.26 | Cide | s/bugs/errors/ |
| 04:01.22 | Thunder_Child | cide, why isnt there a link to ctprofiles on ctmod.net? |
| 04:01.32 | Cide | /shrug |
| 04:01.43 | Cide | people seem to find their way to the site anyway, given our user count ;) |
| 04:02.17 | Thunder_Child | ya but....i'm lazy |
| 04:04.00 | abug | ~lazy |
| 04:04.07 | purl | Well, we don't service lazy people, sorry. |
| 04:08.52 | haste | ~laziness |
| 04:08.53 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:10.56 | abug | I see what you did there |
| 04:13.35 | Tem | ~hubris |
| 04:13.37 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:13.53 | Tem | ~impatience |
| 04:13.54 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:14.13 | Tem | curses |
| 04:14.17 | Tem | I can't ever remember the second |
| 04:14.57 | Kaso | howcome when you do GetTextColor() you often get values like 0.999999999799 etc instead of 1 |
| 04:16.32 | Osagasu | because 0.999999999~ = 1, silly. |
| 04:17.20 | Kaso | haha |
| 04:17.22 | sylvanaar | that is related to how floaing point numbers are represented in binary |
| 04:19.06 | sylvanaar | and in fact 0.99999999xxx does = 1 |
| 04:19.34 | Kaso | these numbers arent as close to 1 as that thing |
| 04:19.41 | Kaso | though |
| 04:19.51 | sylvanaar | yeah, they are 0-1 |
| 04:21.00 | Tem | ~fear of complexity |
| 04:21.02 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:21.08 | sylvanaar | just use 6 significant digits |
| 04:22.54 | abug | ~dilbert |
| 04:22.55 | purl | [dilbert] a comic, online at http://www.dilbert.com, or see backissues using this script: http://www.stonehenge.com/cgi/dilbert |
| 04:23.11 | sylvanaar | ~failure |
| 04:23.12 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, failure is not an option |
| 04:25.08 | zenzelezz | http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/failure.jpg |
| 04:26.03 | Tem | instead of testing for equality with 1, check for 1- .9999999241 < 0.000000001 |
| 04:26.26 | Tem | mm, abs |
| 04:27.04 | Cide | I prefer floor(num*10^6+0.5)/10^6 == 1 |
| 04:30.25 | Tem | that'd fail on .99999499999 |
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| 04:31.07 | Mike-N-Go | a 9.9 |
| 04:31.20 | Cide | yes, but that's a matter of precision |
| 04:32.06 | Cide | you'd just change to 10^3 instead |
| 04:32.14 | Cide | 10^4* |
| 04:32.20 | Corr[home] | okay, this is kinda silly |
| 04:32.44 | Corr[home] | the wow.com front page has a flash object whose sole purpose is being a clickable image link that changes its image on mouseover |
| 04:33.20 | abug | is that the same one causing random anti-virus software to complain? |
| 04:33.42 | Corr[home] | it looks like it may have a total of 3 frames, but the difference between 2 and 3 is so small that they could have just had an image link with a mouseover image |
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| 04:44.08 | grimman | Small? You're saying a 50% increase in frames is a SMALL amount? *sigh* |
| 04:44.10 | grimman | ;) |
| 04:45.37 | Esamynn | ~poke grimman |
| 04:45.40 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind grimman, pokes grimman repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 04:53.03 | Kaso | how do i tell if a line of text on a tooltip is wrapped or not |
| 04:54.24 | Esamynn | why do you want to know? |
| 04:54.42 | Kaso | so i can replicated the tooltip at a later time. |
| 04:55.54 | Esamynn | ok, run that by me again please |
| 04:57.27 | Kaso | ok, basically im writing an addon to collect up all the bonuses from gems and show it in a more simple manner, so an item with 21 stam and 10int plus three 4 stam + 3 Int gems would be shown as 33stam and 19int |
| 04:57.50 | Kaso | so im getting all the info off the tooltip, ClearLines()ing it then re-writing in the way i want |
| 04:58.12 | Kaso | however i cant tell if a certain line should be wrapped or not |
| 04:59.17 | Esamynn | the tooltip takes care of wrapping by itself |
| 04:59.33 | Thunder_Child | but it's a horrable singer |
| 04:59.59 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 05:00.00 | Kaso | lol, but it doesnt, when i AddLine() i need to supply an arg as to whether it should wrap or not |
| 05:01.08 | Esamynn | hmmm |
| 05:01.38 | Kaso | but i cant work out how to tell from the fontstring if that line is wrapped or not |
| 05:02.27 | Esamynn | .let me check something |
| 05:02.37 | Kaso | hokay |
| 05:02.39 | Kaso | thanks |
| 05:04.52 | Esamynn | hmm, you're right, my bad |
| 05:05.58 | Esamynn | you could check the height of the fontstring, to see if it is tall enough for 2 lines |
| 05:06.11 | Kaso | hm, thats a rather good idea |
| 05:06.37 | Esamynn | what I don't know for sure, is whether those FontStrings will give you proper height/width values |
| 05:06.52 | Kaso | lemme hava play |
| 05:07.12 | Kaso | it really seems there should be a GameTooltip:GetLine() function |
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| 05:09.51 | Kaso | yah it seems checking the height will work |
| 05:10.20 | Kaso | but i cant help feeling there should be a more "correct" way to do it |
| 05:11.28 | Kaso | chuckling alot arent you |
| 05:11.38 | Esamynn | 8) |
| 05:12.06 | Esamynn | I've been hearing people complain about the pains of tooltip parsing for quite a while now ;) |
| 05:12.56 | Kaso | ha |
| 05:13.05 | Kaso | they are a touch odd |
| 05:13.14 | Shadowed | Tooltip parsing is fun |
| 05:13.18 | Esamynn | it's a hack :P |
| 05:13.19 | Kaso | anyway,. thanks for the help, i have a working solution now |
| 05:13.26 | Kaso | need sleep byebye |
| 05:13.29 | Esamynn | you're welcome :) |
| 05:13.33 | Esamynn | good night |
| 05:15.31 | Tain | Yeah it's not even as much that tooltip parsing is difficult that people complain about, just that it is the only way to get some information you want. |
| 05:15.53 | Shadowed | what Tain said |
| 05:16.09 | Shadowed | Hated having to parse tooltips to get simple data like a buff name |
| 05:16.31 | Tain | Of couse the actual tooltip format is screwy as hell to go along with it. |
| 05:16.45 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 05:16.53 | Shadowed | How can you not like trying to figure out if it's left1, right2, left134b! |
| 05:17.24 | Tain | I swear the first time I tried on my own I was looking at someone else's addon going, "what? " |
| 05:18.23 | Esamynn | ha! |
| 05:18.34 | Esamynn | I know exactly what you mean |
| 05:19.25 | abug | tooltip parsing taints author execution |
| 05:20.15 | Mike-N-Go | Oh my, getting my addon to display the right text in the right format based on dynamic data is difficult. |
| 05:20.35 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone have the same problem :\ |
| 05:21.28 | Tain | I'm having a problem. Guitar Hero is hard as hell on the hard difficult. |
| 05:21.44 | Shadowed | Pratice more! |
| 05:21.51 | Tain | I am trying! |
| 05:23.28 | Shadowed | you maybe want to use an easier mode |
| 05:25.41 | Tain | The only way to get better is to try harder. |
| 05:25.51 | Shadowed | if you try something thats to hard, you'll have a harder time getting better |
| 05:25.58 | Shadowed | These forum people that are still complaing about the UI changes are amusing, makes the nights a bit less boring |
| 05:26.17 | Esamynn | I suppose amusing is one word for them |
| 05:26.42 | Shadowed | "Annoying pests who need to shut up and go away" would be another? |
| 05:27.10 | a-stray-cat | anyone here play a warrior? |
| 05:27.15 | Shadowed | Yep, whats up? |
| 05:27.38 | a-stray-cat | battle shout sets off the global cooldown right? |
| 05:27.44 | Shadowed | yes |
| 05:27.49 | a-stray-cat | much <3, thanks |
| 05:28.05 | Shadowed | The only Warrior ability I can remember that doesn't set off the global cooldown is heroic strike and cleave |
| 05:28.14 | Shadowed | and stance switching, technically I guess |
| 05:28.59 | Thunder_Child | the warrior ability of dieing doesnt either |
| 05:29.19 | Shadowed | We don't die, we just out last you until the other 9 people on the team come and kill you |
| 05:29.43 | Thunder_Child | hah, at 53 i could kill 60 wars |
| 05:29.44 | Corr[home] | i think you're thinking of w/mo from guild wars |
| 05:30.36 | grimman | Ah yes, Guild Wars. |
| 05:30.42 | grimman | I tried giving my account away today. |
| 05:30.44 | grimman | No dice. |
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| 05:32.05 | Esamynn | ok, so I know there is a portal between Silvermoon City and the Undercity, anyone know where it is on the Silvermoon end? |
| 05:32.05 | grimman | Funny how my current rogue build with the gear I have (all PVP) will only have 4 attack power less than full rank14 gear and weaponry. |
| 05:32.20 | grimman | Esamynn: Don't the guards know? |
| 05:32.27 | Esamynn | apparently not |
| 05:32.36 | grimman | Idiotas. And they're supposed to live there! |
| 05:32.40 | Thunder_Child | grimman, but what about stats and all that goodness? |
| 05:32.53 | a-stray-cat | grimman: But why would they ever want to leave for Undercity? :p |
| 05:32.55 | grimman | Thunder_Child: For a rogue, attack power is all that matters. ;P |
| 05:33.07 | grimman | a-stray-cat: Wrong person. ;) |
| 05:33.12 | Corr[home] | grimman has made a mistake |
| 05:33.22 | Thunder_Child | as a priest having to heal said rouges, you lie!! |
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| 05:33.31 | grimman | Thunder_Child: At any rate, the neglible difference in attack power is offset by crit chance. |
| 05:33.32 | Thunder_Child | rogue* |
| 05:33.36 | grimman | Nub rogues then. |
| 05:33.45 | grimman | If a rogue takes aggro it's an idiot. |
| 05:33.51 | Esamynn | O-M-G!!! |
| 05:33.52 | Thunder_Child | aoe attacks |
| 05:33.59 | Esamynn | I just saw the BE mount for the first time.......... |
| 05:34.01 | grimman | Well there's that of course. |
| 05:34.02 | Corr[home] | as a pvp rogue who relies entirely on AP-only-dependant moves and doesn't care about getting hit, you don't care about anything but AP. however, you can't generalize that to all rogues. |
| 05:34.20 | Corr[home] | Esamynn: how is it? |
| 05:34.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Esamynn> I just saw the chocobo for the first time.......... |
| 05:34.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | fixed |
| 05:34.36 | grimman | Corr[home]: WEEEEELL... it's a damage class that isn't supposed to take aggro... so I dunno. Seems fairly accurate to me. ;D |
| 05:34.54 | Corr[home] | you're talking about aggro, but you're also talking about pvp gear. that doesn't make sense. |
| 05:35.04 | Thunder_Child | warr = just as much dmg + plate |
| 05:35.15 | Corr[home] | oh, let me re-read... |
| 05:35.17 | grimman | There's aggro in PVP you know, it's what kills you if you're not careful. :P |
| 05:35.38 | Corr[home] | i hate those rams |
| 05:36.10 | Thunder_Child | alteric rams? |
| 05:36.16 | Corr[home] | you were comparing -your- gear to the pvp gear. okay, nm. you're entirely in a pve perspective, then. crits would be nice, wouldn't they? |
| 05:36.26 | grimman | Thunder_Child: I hear warriors whine all day long about their nerfs etc etc... seems to me it's either a really bad class or it has the most whiners, second to druids. |
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| 05:36.49 | Corr[home] | those two possibilities are not exclusive |
| 05:37.29 | grimman | Corr[home]: Yes and no. Yes I'm comparing my gear to PVP, but all my gear IS PVP gear anyway. But as far as the aggro part goes, it's accurate. Rogues shall not have aggro, leather is not good enough to handle it in endgame PVE, except for grinding. |
| 05:37.40 | Corr[home] | yes, Thunder_Child, those horrible little things that just annoy me for 30 yards as i'm trying to go past |
| 05:38.42 | grimman | Balinda annoys the hell out of me in AV... she _never_ fails to sheep me. Always me. |
| 05:39.05 | grimman | I can arrive when she has 50% HP left, she takes one look at me and goes /cast Sheep. |
| 05:39.25 | grimman | If I take the opening hit on her she looks at me and baa's. |
| 05:39.32 | Thunder_Child | yea corr, i think they have far larger aggroranges for their lvl |
| 05:39.34 | grimman | ... cries? :P |
| 05:39.55 | Corr[home] | let us pity each other |
| 05:40.06 | Corr[home] | horde av players |
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| 05:40.29 | grimman | I like AV playing as both factions actually. |
| 05:40.34 | Esamynn | ahh ha, found it |
| 05:40.41 | Esamynn | it's in the very back of the Court of the Sun |
| 05:40.43 | grimman | Though honestly, I do _not_ like the "new" AV playstyle. |
| 05:40.50 | grimman | <3 oldschool AV. |
| 05:41.00 | Corr[home] | new as in from a couple of months ago? |
| 05:41.05 | grimman | Well yeah. |
| 05:41.25 | grimman | I kinda liked having to grind away at their base for an hour. |
| 05:41.31 | Corr[home] | just checking. i haven't examined the PTR or expansion much so i don't know what changes it may have |
| 05:41.37 | Thunder_Child | umm..i'm alliance AV |
| 05:41.43 | grimman | Maybe not the actual grinding away part, but the other objectives in the zone had a meaning. |
| 05:41.46 | Thunder_Child | no horde pity from you |
| 05:42.06 | grimman | << Alliance and horde player. :P |
| 05:42.31 | Thunder_Child | but i am helping a friend pull a 92 hour AV weekend |
| 05:42.35 | Corr[home] | i wish i could log in with more than one character at a time. that would be convenient. yay. |
| 05:42.38 | grimman | Lovely little rogue on a PVP server and a nice hunter on some nubbie PVE realm where Kirkburn just happens to live also. |
| 05:42.59 | grimman | Thunder_Child: To what end? |
| 05:43.10 | Thunder_Child | so he can get rank 13 |
| 05:43.10 | Shadowed | Thunder_Child: what class are you by the way |
| 05:43.24 | Thunder_Child | priest |
| 05:43.25 | grimman | But it's pointless... |
| 05:43.27 | Shadowed | ah |
| 05:43.31 | Corr[home] | in a month, the rank has no purpose |
| 05:43.38 | grimman | And with all likelyhood, impossible. |
| 05:43.40 | Thunder_Child | ofc not |
| 05:43.43 | Corr[home] | well, month and a half |
| 05:43.43 | Shadowed | what spec? |
| 05:43.48 | Thunder_Child | shadow atm |
| 05:43.49 | grimman | You know they rolled out the full 2.0 patch right? |
| 05:43.52 | Shadowed | The gear is actually pretty useful |
| 05:44.01 | Thunder_Child | grimman, what when? |
| 05:44.02 | Shadowed | it's silly to say gear is worthless when TBC comes out honestly |
| 05:44.03 | Corr[home] | oh, that's right, honor changes as soon as it goes live |
| 05:44.04 | grimman | Corr[home]: There's a release date on the patch? |
| 05:44.16 | grimman | Thunder_Child: Open up the Blizzard Background Downloader and see for yourself. |
| 05:44.18 | Corr[home] | i was stuck in that "2.0 = expansion" idea from wayback |
| 05:44.28 | grimman | I can screen it for you. |
| 05:44.31 | Thunder_Child | i dont have it d/ling |
| 05:44.38 | beastathon | Hey, I'm looking for some help with WoW Modding. Anyone who's quite knowledgable on the subject, please message me, cheers. |
| 05:44.43 | grimman | You don't need to. |
| 05:44.53 | grimman | Just start it, get the torrent file and start that instead. |
| 05:45.03 | Shadowed | The gear will be useful until you find something to replace it, some items you may replace a hour into leveling, other items may last until the 65s even 68s |
| 05:45.04 | grimman | WAAAAAAY faster than the bgdownloader too. |
| 05:45.06 | Thunder_Child | when is it going live though? |
| 05:45.13 | Shadowed | Better your gear, the faster you level |
| 05:45.14 | grimman | Got my patch in an hour, a friend of mine downloaded it in 26 hours. |
| 05:46.02 | grimman | (yes, we have the same connection speed) |
| 05:46.20 | Esamynn | the background downloader is slow on purpose |
| 05:46.24 | Thunder_Child | but if wow isnt forcing it, then it isnt live yet |
| 05:46.53 | grimman | No, of course not... but it's nice to have it already. |
| 05:46.57 | Corr[home] | oh, so 2.0 is completely finished? |
| 05:47.03 | Esamynn | not yet |
| 05:47.04 | grimman | Esamynn: Should detect when the game isn't running tbh... |
| 05:47.10 | Thunder_Child | when will it goe live is the question? |
| 05:47.14 | Thunder_Child | go* |
| 05:47.18 | Esamynn | grimman: why, you might be doing something else :P |
| 05:47.26 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?wow_112-201.png |
| 05:48.05 | grimman | Esamynn: Then detect fullscreen apps or something, games that is... it's likely the only thing that requires best-possible-ping anyway. ;) |
| 05:48.14 | Thunder_Child | if you simply launch the background dler it will go |
| 05:48.24 | grimman | OR just have a speed toggle... I dunno, but 26 hours is ALOT in the end. |
| 05:48.30 | grimman | And I'm a very impatient person. |
| 05:48.38 | Esamynn | ~poke grimman |
| 05:48.40 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind grimman, pokes grimman repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 05:48.46 | grimman | Again? *sigh* |
| 05:48.49 | grimman | ;) |
| 05:48.51 | Cairenn|afk | beastathon: you are in a channel full of people that are "quite knowledgeable" about it, ask your question |
| 05:48.52 | Corr[home] | you use the background downloader? wow |
| 05:49.26 | grimman | Hm, me? Don't accuse me of such crimes. |
| 05:49.54 | Corr[home] | no, to Thunder_Child, talking about the background downloader. i can't. my connection tends to get clogged after a little while and it moves very slowly. |
| 05:50.03 | beastathon | Well, I'm wondering how to import a button (with an image) in an addon, I've looked around for quite some time and I cant seem to find anything. |
| 05:50.09 | Thunder_Child | no i dont |
| 05:50.38 | Thunder_Child | grimman, where did you pick up that torrent from? |
| 05:50.47 | grimman | WoW\cache |
| 05:50.48 | grimman | :P |
| 05:51.12 | Cairenn|afk | beastathon: post what you have so far here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ then give the channel the link so they can look over your code |
| 05:51.22 | Gello | <Button name="MyButton"><NormalTexture file="Interface\AddOns\MyMod\MyImage"/></Button> <- makes a button use an image |
| 05:52.12 | beastathon | Cheers. Although, Does it have to .blp ? |
| 05:52.28 | Gello | can be tga |
| 05:52.30 | Cairenn|afk | no, .tga works just fine |
| 05:52.37 | beastathon | k, thanks. |
| 05:52.44 | beastathon | :D |
| 05:52.49 | grimman | And have certain dimensions. |
| 05:52.53 | Gello | 24-bit, or 32-bit with alpha, each side must be a power of 2 (2 4 8 16 32 etc) |
| 05:52.54 | Cairenn|afk | remember it needs to be power of 2 and don't forget to save your alpha channel |
| 05:53.02 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 05:53.15 | beastathon | ahk |
| 05:53.38 | Cairenn|afk | the graphic *file* has to be power of 2, the *image* itself doesn't |
| 05:54.34 | Corr[home] | and no side can be larger than 512 |
| 05:54.35 | grimman | And if the filename contains a t you have to supply a checksum file for it, along with a fresh serving of vegetables. |
| 05:54.45 | Cairenn|afk | grimman: lol |
| 05:55.02 | Cairenn|afk | Corr[home]: wow doesn't like reading larger than 512 |
| 05:55.11 | Corr[home] | exactly |
| 05:55.26 | Thunder_Child | well i prefer the primary d/l'er corr, i get about 700KB/s for it |
| 05:55.27 | Shadowed | Quick question. blizzard posted that they had 7 million active subscribers right? |
| 05:55.27 | Corr[home] | as of 1.12.1 or so |
| 05:55.34 | Gello | 7.5million now |
| 05:55.38 | Shadowed | alright thanks |
| 05:55.44 | Cairenn|afk | Corr[home]: sorry, I saw a ? at the end of that statement, for some reason |
| 05:55.49 | Corr[home] | ah |
| 05:55.53 | Shadowed | Cair needs sleep? |
| 05:56.00 | Cairenn|afk | that she does |
| 05:56.01 | Gello | if you look at the images in the mpqs you'll see a ton of artwork chopped up into 512x512 chunks |
| 05:56.54 | Gello | imho if you're adding a custom image to a mod for the first time, i'd start with a placeholder graphic, like Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_QuestionMark. so you work the syntax out first, then plug your graphic in |
| 05:56.54 | Corr[home] | what purpose is there to limiting texture dimensions to 512? |
| 05:57.13 | Cairenn|afk | speed imo |
| 05:57.25 | beastathon | Im not using my own image, I just copied it into my MoD Folder with BLPView |
| 05:57.36 | Gello | probably a holdover from their blp format too? they've been using it a long time |
| 05:57.38 | Corr[home] | is drawing four 512x512 images faster than drawing one 1024x1024 one? |
| 05:57.47 | Cairenn|afk | Corr[home]: yes |
| 05:58.00 | Corr[home] | now that is strange, to me |
| 05:58.15 | beastathon | Oh, and when you put in: "Interface\AddOns\MyMod\MyImage" , you dont put the file extension onto the name do you? |
| 05:58.24 | Gello | you don't need to |
| 05:58.30 | beastathon | ahk, thanks |
| 05:58.45 | Gello | you may also want to do a <PushedTexture file="same file"/> too in the button |
| 05:59.30 | Esamynn | you know, I really think it was a mistake by Blizzard to not figure out someway of linking the flightpath systems in the new starting zones to the old world systems |
| 05:59.35 | Gello | if you do <PushedTexture file="same file"><TexCoords left=".1" right=".9" top=".1" bottom=".9"/></PushedTexture> then it will look like it "pushes" without needing new artwork |
| 06:00.47 | Shadowed | Is their only one UI & Macro forums for US/EU/CA excluding TBC? |
| 06:01.05 | Thunder_Child | US/CA same UE sperate i think |
| 06:01.12 | Thunder_Child | EU* |
| 06:01.34 | Esamynn | it's divided by subscription zones |
| 06:02.04 | Shadowed | So, probably around 6-7? |
| 06:02.10 | Thunder_Child | grimman, can i just get the torrent from you? |
| 06:02.21 | grimman | Sure. |
| 06:02.35 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?BackgroundDownload.torrent |
| 06:02.36 | grimman | Enjoy. |
| 06:02.57 | Corr[home] | so what does that torrent let you get? |
| 06:02.57 | Thunder_Child | Thank You |
| 06:03.08 | grimman | The files go in 'World of Warcraft\WoW-1.12.x-to-2.0.1-enGB-patch' when you're done with them. |
| 06:03.16 | Corr[home] | is it the full thing, or only partial? |
| 06:03.22 | grimman | Corr[home]: Unknown. |
| 06:03.54 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?wow_112-201.png << Selected folder in the righthand panel is the patch file size. |
| 06:04.01 | Thunder_Child | at 653 MB its prolly full |
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| 06:04.12 | Esamynn | it's most of the data I'd bet |
| 06:04.24 | Esamynn | with only minor tweeks left to come |
| 06:04.45 | Corr[home] | will those minor tweaks require redownloading most of it? |
| 06:04.51 | Industrial | why are you essing with some patch? its not patch day :S |
| 06:04.55 | Industrial | messing* |
| 06:05.21 | Thunder_Child | blah grimman, i just realised it's enGB :( |
| 06:05.34 | grimman | You're... from the outlands? *gasp* |
| 06:05.38 | Industrial | ;) |
| 06:06.59 | grimman | As I said, start up the background downloader, it'll create both patch folder and torrent file for you to use as you like. |
| 06:07.29 | Thunder_Child | i did start it up, no torrent for me |
| 06:07.57 | grimman | I find that odd. |
| 06:08.39 | Thunder_Child | and i find it iritating, but it doesnt change the facts, it doesnt output a torrent file |
| 06:08.46 | Thunder_Child | for me |
| 06:10.59 | Esamynn | it doesn't like you, you were probably mean to it |
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| 06:11.02 | grimman | Perhaps someone else can assist you? |
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| 06:11.06 | Esamynn | yay, netsplit! |
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| 06:11.22 | Thunder_Child | my fault, i take full responsibility for it |
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| 06:11.22 | Esamynn | of course it is |
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| 06:11.22 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
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| 06:11.22 | grimman | Also, wth is the difference between enGB and enUS? As far as I can tell the dialogue isn't very british... :P |
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| 06:12.58 | Esamynn | grimman: only a technical difference |
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| 06:12.58 | Mike-N-Go | Hi |
| 06:12.58 | Mike-N-Go | Did you all see that? |
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| 06:12.58 | Esamynn | no actual change in the language used |
| 06:12.58 | Esamynn | Mike-N-Go: it's called a netsplit |
| 06:12.59 | Mike-N-Go | Like 30 people left the room, according to my client. |
| 06:12.59 | Corr[home] | "choose the color of your tabard" becomes "choose the COLOUR of your tabard, you euro" |
| 06:12.59 | Thunder_Child | no, but there does seem to be a file size difference |
| 06:12.59 | Mike-N-Go | Esamynn: Is that normal? |
| 06:12.59 | Thunder_Child | wow, that was a long lart delay |
| 06:12.59 | Esamynn | it happens from time to time |
| 06:12.59 | Cairenn | was it an actual split? I got flat out disconnected, which isn't the typical for a pure split |
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| 06:13.00 | Corr[home] | plus GB may have some restriction on content allowed. there may be green blood instead of red blood, or something. i wonder if the german version does that |
| 06:13.00 | grimman | Esamynn: What kind of technical stuff could possibly be different between the versions? |
| 06:13.00 | Thunder_Child | standard split to me |
| 06:13.00 | grimman | Hm... blood? |
| 06:13.00 | grimman | ;) |
| 06:13.00 | Esamynn | grimman: login server address, URLs |
| 06:13.01 | Esamynn | Cairenn: maybe a server actually up and died |
| 06:13.01 | grimman | Well there's that of course... if you absolutely have to update it with each patch. :P |
| 06:13.29 | Cairenn | Esamynn: *shrug* maybe, or it was one hell of a coincidence on timing |
| 06:13.29 | Thunder_Child | and the fact that the US one is 200mb smaller than the GB one |
| 06:13.29 | Cairenn | and Mike-N-Go, yes, net splits happen all the time |
| 06:13.29 | grimman | o_o |
| 06:13.52 | Corr[home] | maybe the german version has german audio for everything they say, but just doesn't play it |
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| 06:13.52 | Corr[home] | er, the GB one has ... english audio |
| 06:14.14 | Corr[home] | the orcs speak with british accent? |
| 06:14.14 | Thunder_Child | sweet |
| 06:14.14 | grimman | Zug zug, old chap. |
| 06:14.44 | Corr[home] | trolls could sound jamaican-british |
| 06:14.44 | Thunder_Child | and the dwarvs are already scottish |
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| 06:14.46 | Thunder_Child | dwarves* |
| 06:14.50 | grimman | Probably not in Germany. |
| 06:15.07 | grimman | "ACHTUNG! DORFDORFSEHEN." |
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| 06:15.41 | Corr[home] | but indeed, i can't imagine why the enUS version would be 200mb smaller than the enGB version. |
| 06:15.50 | grimman | I loathe dwarves. |
| 06:15.56 | Corr[home] | i keep reading GB as german |
| 06:16.07 | Thunder_Child | uhh.... |
| 06:16.17 | Thunder_Child | why? |
| 06:16.24 | Thunder_Child | to corr, not grim |
| 06:16.32 | Cairenn | Great Britain :p |
| 06:16.59 | Corr[home] | on. G for german, B for .. best. |
| 06:17.06 | Esamynn | lol |
| 06:17.08 | grimman | Actually I didn't think for a second that you asked me. |
| 06:17.10 | Cairenn | haha |
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| 07:00.41 | Shadowed | "some problems"? |
| 07:01.35 | grimman | Not at all, it's a part of the on-going tutoring in the course "How to kill one or more conversations in five relatively easy steps." |
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| 07:13.07 | Mike-N-Go | Humm. |
| 07:13.21 | Mike-N-Go | That took a long time for my to re-access the server. |
| 07:15.37 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone there? |
| 07:16.40 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 07:17.31 | Mike-N-Go | Ah, K. |
| 07:17.42 | Mike-N-Go | ~Tunder_Child |
| 07:18.33 | Thunder_Child | you forgot an h |
| 07:18.46 | Mike-N-Go | ~Thunder_Child |
| 07:19.04 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 07:19.05 | purl | People likeyou are the reason people like me needmedication |
| 07:19.22 | Mike-N-Go | purl that is so lol |
| 07:19.23 | purl | Mike-N-Go: what are you talking about? |
| 07:19.37 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 07:19.38 | purl | I'm retired, but i work part-time as a PAIN IN THE ASS |
| 07:21.33 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 07:21.34 | purl | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 07:21.43 | Mike-N-Go | purl, stop cussing! |
| 07:21.44 | purl | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops cussing! |
| 07:21.56 | kergoth | hehe |
| 07:22.01 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 07:22.03 | purl | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 07:22.11 | Tem | ~emulate stewie |
| 07:22.12 | purl | Baby needs to suck ash! |
| 07:22.26 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 07:22.27 | purl | It'll be a good chance to get away from the evil monkey that lives in my closet." |
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| 07:22.32 | Mike-N-Go | ~emulate Tem |
| 07:22.33 | purl | Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]! |
| 07:22.40 | Tem | ~emulate sean connery |
| 07:23.03 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate malreth |
| 07:23.05 | purl | as long as it's not anal-related, it's fine |
| 07:23.12 | Tem | purl, emulate sean connery is <reply> The day is mine! |
| 07:23.14 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 07:23.15 | Grem | Can anyone help me? I have a couple LUA files, all inside my TOC, but they cant seem to access variables from one another (Although they can access functions) |
| 07:23.22 | Tem | ~emulate sean connery |
| 07:23.24 | purl | The day is mine! |
| 07:23.38 | kergoth | hah |
| 07:23.43 | kergoth | ~emulate brian |
| 07:23.44 | purl | Gosh, I'd like to help you, Peter, but I've got to go out in the hall and chew on the back of my ass for about five minutes. |
| 07:24.53 | Grem | I assume the variables are global by default, since they arent inside functions |
| 07:25.07 | Grem | Do I need to include the files in the XML instead of in the TOC for them to access each other's variables? |
| 07:25.31 | Esamynn | Grem: all variables are global by default, even in a function |
| 07:25.59 | Esamynn | and no to your question |
| 07:26.08 | Esamynn | global means GLOBAL |
| 07:26.10 | Grem | Why cant they access variables then? |
| 07:26.36 | Esamynn | what's the problem |
| 07:26.47 | Grem | Do the files need to be listed in the TOC in a specific order? I placed the 'main.lua' file at the top of the TOC, which contains all the variabls |
| 07:26.54 | Grem | Im not able to access variables across files |
| 07:27.05 | Grem | actually |
| 07:27.07 | Esamynn | files are loaded in the order they are listed in the toc |
| 07:27.09 | Grem | I think im just doing something stupid |
| 07:27.26 | Grem | Nevermind, I mistyped the variable name, haha! |
| 07:27.30 | Grem | Thanks |
| 07:27.31 | Esamynn | lol |
| 07:29.01 | Grem | hm..no |
| 07:29.20 | Grem | Wtf is going on.. =/ |
| 07:29.27 | grimman | variable ~= Variable |
| 07:29.32 | Mike-N-Go | We are insane. |
| 07:29.34 | Grem | Eh |
| 07:29.46 | Grem | Im still not able to access variables, hrmmm |
| 07:29.54 | Mike-N-Go | Lua is case sensitive. |
| 07:29.59 | Grem | Yeah |
| 07:30.41 | Grem | Okay, I got it |
| 07:30.45 | Grem | I must be getting tired |
| 07:30.50 | Grem | Because im doing some retarded shit |
| 07:32.06 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict shit |
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| 07:32.43 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict retarded |
| 07:33.04 | Grem | The definitions accurately match my aptitude at the moment =) |
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| 07:40.06 | Corr[home] | GE - Germany according to the International Relations and Security Network. |
| 07:40.15 | Inside | auuuuugh |
| 07:41.34 | Thunder_Child | ah, vs the GB |
| 07:41.42 | Thunder_Child | ok, that makes sense then |
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| 07:57.22 | Grem | So tables are the only type of 'structure' that LUA has right? |
| 07:58.03 | Industrial | http://www.torrentz.com/torrent_801258.html |
| 07:58.27 | Grem | 5000 Gold per Hour.pdf |
| 07:58.36 | Grem | I bet that works!!!1!omg |
| 07:58.55 | Esamynn | Grem: correct |
| 07:59.00 | Grem | k |
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| 08:00.29 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I have a grammer question, take a look at how farm I have got with LFGRaid() at http://pastey.net/2753. |
| 08:00.43 | Mike-N-Go | What do I say to begin a list with me? |
| 08:01.23 | Mike-N-Go | far* |
| 08:10.55 | DrDre | that 5000 gold an hour guide is real but u gotta use hacks to do it ;x |
| 08:11.38 | Grem | There are no hacks to create gold, im sure the hacks just change the client-side memory for how much gold you have |
| 08:11.44 | Grem | causing a visual glitch =P |
| 08:11.45 | DrDre | no |
| 08:11.47 | DrDre | its warp hacks |
| 08:11.54 | Grem | ah |
| 08:11.55 | DrDre | to get those 3 rich thorium nodes in DM |
| 08:12.00 | Grem | lol |
| 08:12.13 | DrDre | but well u cant get 5000 anymore |
| 08:12.21 | DrDre | maybe back in days when no 5 per hour limi |
| 08:12.33 | Grem | 5 per hour limit on what? |
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| 08:13.56 | DrDre | resetting/entering instances |
| 08:13.58 | Neuro_Medivh | instances |
| 08:14.04 | Grem | ahh, never knew about that |
| 08:14.33 | DrDre | 2.0 UI Changes http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6832 | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7 | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 |
| 08:14.35 | DrDre | ws the old title |
| 08:14.57 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 08:15.01 | DrDre | oh wait posted wrong chan :P |
| 08:15.07 | Grem | Does anyone know how much rich thorium goes for on the AH on average? |
| 08:15.21 | zenzelezz | there is no rich thorium |
| 08:15.24 | Grem | err |
| 08:15.24 | Grem | I mean |
| 08:15.26 | Grem | Thorium Ore |
| 08:15.26 | Grem | lol |
| 08:15.30 | DrDre | 2-4g depending on SnD |
| 08:15.36 | DrDre | usually |
| 08:15.47 | Grem | and how much ore comes from 1 vein on average? |
| 08:15.48 | DrDre | (for 20 bars) |
| 08:15.49 | zenzelezz | SnD? The Darkmoon thing? |
| 08:15.54 | DrDre | 2-4 on rich |
| 08:15.54 | Grem | (from a rich thorium vein) |
| 08:15.57 | DrDre | 1-2 on normals |
| 08:16.08 | DrDre | 3-4 mainly, sometimes you get ripped and only get 2 |
| 08:16.21 | DrDre | what pisses me off is when a true silver pops in place of rich thor |
| 08:16.28 | Grem | lol |
| 08:16.48 | zenzelezz | I think it's unfair to call them "rich" veins when they don't contain any gems |
| 08:17.03 | Grem | They can contain gems though, cant they? =P |
| 08:17.18 | zenzelezz | so can small ones |
| 08:18.00 | DrDre | i find i get more gems off smalls than rich |
| 08:18.07 | DrDre | i get a high % of gems from smalls lol |
| 08:18.20 | DrDre | i mine darkwhisper gorge and get tons of crystals there tho |
| 08:18.21 | zenzelezz | I only get the wrong gems :-| |
| 08:18.29 | DrDre | ive got 7 crystals in bout 4 hrs before |
| 08:18.49 | DrDre | ive got 3 crystals off 1 node in azshara >_> |
| 08:19.05 | zenzelezz | 3? Sheesh... I'd heard about 2, but 3 is mad |
| 08:19.05 | Grem | Anyone here that uses AceOO ? |
| 08:19.19 | DrDre | yeah it shocked me lol |
| 08:20.50 | DrDre | ffs is fishing buddy the only fishing addon that allows u to double right click to recast :( |
| 08:21.03 | DrDre | <<dreads going to cosmos site |
| 08:24.38 | grimman | Weeeeee! I just noticed the "Ghost of Onyx" (Halo) book has been released! About a month ago. :D |
| 08:25.39 | grimman | "based on the award-winning video games Halor and Halor 2". Noes, It's based on the cheap Korean knock-offs. :C |
| 08:26.03 | zenzelezz | Halor? |
| 08:27.07 | grimman | http://www.magersandquinn.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1205792&isbn_id=3427417 |
| 08:29.31 | DrDre | wtb addon to jus do right click fishing that allows double click to recast (ie if you dont like where it landed, when fishing holes) |
| 08:30.09 | grimman | Pull the fishing skill to an action button? :P |
| 08:30.11 | grimman | Single-click! |
| 08:30.45 | DrDre | lol right clickings easier :P |
| 08:30.45 | Corr[home] | gasp @ the efficiency increased by 50%! |
| 08:31.05 | grimman | Action buttons don't care what button you use to click. |
| 08:31.10 | grimman | Accessibility doubled! |
| 08:31.22 | grimman | Tripled in fact, since you can bind it to a key as well. |
| 08:31.27 | DrDre | then you dont have to move your mouse all around screen :P fishings meant to be easy! |
| 08:31.38 | DrDre | and fish with one hand masterbate with other |
| 08:31.43 | DrDre | ./nod |
| 08:32.10 | DrDre | i prefer right click casting so u can jus keep mouse in middle of screen |
| 08:32.36 | Corr[home] | keybind, maybe. i'm just suggesting this in case you can't find a right-clicking addon. |
| 08:32.48 | DrDre | well fishing buddy does it |
| 08:32.52 | DrDre | but idc for all the other shit it has |
| 08:33.06 | Corr[home] | then i guess you'll have to strip it out |
| 08:33.14 | DrDre | and prolly screw something up in process :( |
| 08:33.50 | grimman | Live and learn. |
| 08:39.03 | Mike-N-Go | Is there something like UnConvertToRaid() ? |
| 08:39.58 | Thunder_Child | and then get luvs |
| 08:40.29 | DrDre | its DisbandParty(); then /inv names |
| 08:40.32 | Tem | once you are a raid, you cannot go back |
| 08:43.07 | Corr[home] | it's like Ohio |
| 08:43.42 | grimman | ConvertToOhio(); or do you raid Ohio for some bizarre reason? |
| 08:44.01 | Corr[home] | once you go to ohio, you can never go back |
| 08:44.03 | Corr[home] | you will always have been to ohio |
| 08:44.38 | grimman | That's a pretty bold statement. |
| 08:46.30 | Thunder_Child | unless you go back in time and stop yourself from ever doing it |
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| 08:47.30 | Thunder_Child | and then of cource that would only happen in one of the 2 timelines |
| 08:48.06 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks, DrDre and Tem. |
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| 09:06.38 | Thunder_Child | can someone go write a wowwiki page on entering and leaving combat |
| 09:08.01 | Thunder_Child | s/page/formula page/ |
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| 09:08.26 | grimman|afk | PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED is the event you want to monitor I believe. |
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| 09:08.38 | grimman|afk | And DISABLED, obviously. |
| 09:08.42 | Thunder_Child | no, i meant literaly |
| 09:08.51 | grimman|afk | ? |
| 09:09.22 | Thunder_Child | as in what triggers you being in combat, and what does it take to get out |
| 09:09.56 | grimman|034 | I see. |
| 09:10.14 | grimman|034 | For reference or because you wish to know right now? :P |
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| 09:10.37 | Thunder_Child | both..i am sure i will forget |
| 09:11.07 | grimman|034 | Well I can tell you right now I suppose. |
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| 09:12.37 | Thunder_Child | dont worry about it |
| 09:12.41 | grimman|034 | Affirmative. |
| 09:12.42 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 09:13.42 | grimman|034 | PVP is simple though, 5 seconds after last hostile action, with variations corresponding to ping time. ;) |
| 09:14.49 | Thunder_Child | has to be more than that |
| 09:14.57 | grimman|034 | Not at all. |
| 09:15.24 | Thunder_Child | yes, i can stand around for 20 secs before i leave combat |
| 09:15.29 | Thunder_Child | sometimes |
| 09:15.40 | grimman|034 | Odd. |
| 09:15.57 | grimman|034 | I, as a rogue, rely on timely restealthing to do my damage in a controlled fashion. |
| 09:16.32 | grimman|034 | Not even nearby allies fighting seem to affect the timer. |
| 09:16.52 | grimman|034 | Though I can't say I keep track of milliseconds etc, but it seems fairly consistent to me. |
| 09:16.54 | Thunder_Child | i'll set up a video of it, so you can watch |
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| 09:17.14 | Thunder_Child | though i wonder if dots count |
| 09:17.17 | grimman|034 | It may be that world PVP is different though. |
| 09:17.28 | Thunder_Child | or hots |
| 09:18.32 | Thunder_Child | no, i mean bg's |
| 09:21.14 | Corr[home] | as a druid, i recall that healing someone kept me in combat until they left combat, in AV |
| 09:22.02 | grimman|034 | It seems a bit odd to be able to extend a combat flag though. |
| 09:22.41 | grimman|034 | Naturally you inherit combat flags when you heal an in-combat target, but it seems "unfair" to be able to keep a target in combat indefinitely though. |
| 09:23.08 | Thunder_Child | and see, in that case it requires distance |
| 09:23.18 | Thunder_Child | to get out of combat |
| 09:23.39 | Thunder_Child | thats why there should be a page for it |
| 09:23.45 | grimman|034 | ;) |
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| 09:34.42 | grimman|034 | "2 at DBCC sue on book prices, seek $5 million" -- (in this case, '2' == two students) |
| 09:36.38 | grimman|034 | There's something to be said for a litigation-crazed society. |
| 09:38.57 | Thunder_Child | yea, it's stupid |
| 09:40.29 | grimman|034 | Hm. Your opinion differs from mine. I shall sue you. |
| 09:40.51 | Thunder_Child | ok, that will prlly mean you will end up oweing me money |
| 09:40.54 | Thunder_Child | prolly* |
| 09:41.18 | grimman|034 | You threaten me? |
| 09:41.20 | grimman|034 | I sue! |
| 09:41.37 | Thunder_Child | then you die |
| 09:41.53 | Thunder_Child | with litigation comes coruption |
| 09:42.00 | grimman|034 | You're wasting my bandwidth without my consent! Will your insolence ever stop? o_o |
| 09:42.37 | grimman|034 | Anyway... |
| 09:47.32 | grimman|034 | 20 more minutes then this double ep of Voyager will be over. |
| 09:50.27 | Thunder_Child | woot voyager |
| 09:50.35 | Thunder_Child | best ST of them all |
| 09:50.43 | grimman|034 | So I hear, so I hear. |
| 09:50.58 | grimman|034 | But in the end it's just one equipment failure-based plotline after another. |
| 09:51.01 | grimman|034 | It gets tiresome. |
| 09:51.11 | Corr[home] | rep tokens: what's the maximum number you can have on your character in 2.0? |
| 09:51.17 | Thunder_Child | and it it wasnt $50 fer each season i would have them all |
| 09:51.37 | Thunder_Child | s/it/if/ |
| 09:51.41 | grimman|034 | Corr[home]: Rep tokens? Unlimited. :P |
| 09:51.43 | DrDre | 100 i belive |
| 09:51.51 | DrDre | oh nvm |
| 09:51.52 | Corr[home] | conflicting data! |
| 09:51.56 | DrDre | i thouhgt u meant marks |
| 09:51.57 | DrDre | its 5am |
| 09:51.59 | DrDre | goodnight >_> |
| 09:52.02 | Thunder_Child | night |
| 09:52.12 | Corr[home] | mark? wait a second... |
| 09:52.27 | Thunder_Child | there are multiple things |
| 09:52.35 | grimman|034 | Mark of [ThisOrThat] |
| 09:53.09 | Thunder_Child | thisis your brain before tbc () this is your brain after {(*-*)} |
| 09:53.18 | Corr[home] | multiple things, please explain (i didn't even mean "rep tokens" -- the rep was an accidentally added word -- but i seem to have hit on something?) |
| 09:53.33 | Corr[home] | and/or tell me where i can learn |
| 09:54.25 | Thunder_Child | you can learn by playing the beta.... |
| 09:54.27 | grimman|034 | Rep tokens is, for example, [Argent Dawn Valor Token]. Given by a rep-quest, gives rep when used. |
| 09:54.59 | grimman|034 | A mark would be [Alterac Valley Mark of Honor] among others. |
| 09:55.24 | Corr[home] | i can't learn by playing something i'm locked out of without the prerequisite invitation |
| 09:56.51 | Thunder_Child | this may help Corr[home] http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_The_Burning_Crusade#PvP_Changes |
| 09:56.55 | Thunder_Child | dunno though |
| 10:01.51 | Corr[home] | i forsee the retirement of my healing druid >_> |
| 10:03.11 | Thunder_Child | why, resto drus are the ultime in hot's |
| 10:03.42 | Corr[home] | now hold on thar, pardner |
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| 10:04.08 | Corr[home] | regrowth is not all that mana-efficient, and tranquility doesn't do much for you in a raid |
| 10:04.27 | Corr[home] | that leaves rejuv which, while nice, can't stack (per caster, anyway) |
| 10:04.57 | Corr[home] | in tree form, you can only cast those three if i'm not mistaken |
| 10:05.20 | AnduinLothar | tranquility is nice on a couple bosses in bwl where there's aoe fire damage |
| 10:05.31 | AnduinLothar | and poison in aq |
| 10:06.06 | Corr[home] | group and proximity management get involved there. apparently it's possible, since you're saying it. |
| 10:06.33 | Thunder_Child | they should give you guys an aoe hot |
| 10:06.43 | Corr[home] | ...that's what tranquility is |
| 10:06.55 | Corr[home] | it only affects your party, of course, and it's channeled |
| 10:06.58 | Thunder_Child | can you cast that in tree form? |
| 10:07.19 | Corr[home] | i have no idea. i assumed so, but i could be wrong. |
| 10:09.24 | Corr[home] | oh yes, the biggest reason i don't like to use tranquility is that it has a 5 minute cooldown, so if i start using it i'll never have it when i actually need it, which is unusual but always happens about 3 minutes after i use it |
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| 10:09.55 | AnduinLothar | by that logic i'd never use my pally bubble |
| 10:10.15 | grimman|034 | Well, if you use it only "when you need it" you'll likely never use it. :P |
| 10:10.29 | AnduinLothar | wooo, passed 100,000 downloads on wowi |
| 10:10.36 | grimman|034 | Of what? |
| 10:10.43 | AnduinLothar | everything, loll |
| 10:10.51 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=18098 |
| 10:11.09 | Corr[home] | tranquility has been an ass saver several times. but in a party, i don't want it to be on cooldown if i could get by using something more effective (it's not a whole lot of healing, but it heals everyone. if the mobs are killing us one at a time, it's almost useless.) |
| 10:12.29 | AnduinLothar | course.. if you look at just my latest version of DamageMeters on curse... it's gotten over 160k dls, heh. http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-791-damagemeters.html |
| 10:12.44 | AnduinLothar | too bad i don't have a total for my curse addons |
| 10:12.51 | AnduinLothar | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/profile-502.html |
| 10:15.08 | grimman|034 | That's an assload of submitted addons. |
| 10:15.17 | AnduinLothar | yeah, a couple |
| 10:15.47 | grimman|034 | 22 couples and an orphan by my count. |
| 10:16.47 | AnduinLothar | here's a list of most of them. need to update it with my 2.0 ones |
| 10:16.48 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI |
| 10:18.13 | grimman|034 | Odd... I haven't used a single one of those addons. :P |
| 10:18.52 | AnduinLothar | your loss |
| 10:19.02 | grimman|034 | I'm sure. ;) |
| 10:19.10 | Thunder_Child | speaking of which..what is issolation? |
| 10:19.21 | Thunder_Child | TellTrack (c) - Whisper tracking via name list and whisper issolation |
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| 10:19.48 | AnduinLothar | you can have it show just the whispers from that person when you click their name |
| 10:19.58 | AnduinLothar | from&to |
| 10:20.19 | Thunder_Child | you mean isolation? |
| 10:20.31 | AnduinLothar | what, you don't like my typo? |
| 10:20.49 | Thunder_Child | me?..no no....i uhhh...love it, yea thats right, love it |
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| 10:21.52 | grimman|034 | I shall sleep. Resistance is futile. |
| 10:22.05 | Thunder_Child | ~night grimman|034 |
| 10:22.14 | purl | have a good night, grimman|034 |
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| 10:24.34 | Grem | How do I convert a value to a negative number? |
| 10:24.40 | Grem | Like if health = 100 |
| 10:24.44 | Grem | how do I convert health to -100 |
| 10:24.52 | AnduinLothar | health = -health |
| 10:24.59 | Grem | Thanks =) |
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| 10:31.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | looks like an invalid syntax but u are probely try AnduinLothar :p else u can ofc do 0 - health |
| 10:32.18 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 10:32.33 | AnduinLothar | -health isn't invalid afaik |
| 10:32.59 | AnduinLothar | > h=10 |
| 10:32.59 | AnduinLothar | > print(-h) |
| 10:33.00 | AnduinLothar | -10 |
| 10:33.00 | AnduinLothar | > |
| 10:35.02 | AnduinLothar | there we go, updated the list: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI |
| 10:35.56 | AnduinLothar | looks like i need to make some 18 addon wiki pages |
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| 11:33.13 | Grem | Is there a way to make it so that if a texture is only partially positioned on it's parent frame, it wont draw the part that's off it's parent frame? |
| 11:33.49 | Grem | Like if I have a square texture, but it's postioned to 'hang off the edge', is there a way to make that portion of the square texture not draw to the screen? |
| 11:34.18 | Thunder_Child | like a mask? |
| 11:34.39 | Grem | a mask? |
| 11:34.53 | Grem | I just basically want the portions of a texture to be visible that's on top it's parent frame |
| 11:35.15 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, you will have to ask someone who knows what they are talking about |
| 11:35.20 | Grem | lol |
| 11:35.49 | Mery | well it is kind of a mask |
| 11:36.12 | Thunder_Child | thats waht it's called in falsh/photoshop stuff like that |
| 11:36.15 | Thunder_Child | what* |
| 11:36.19 | Thunder_Child | flash* |
| 11:36.39 | Grem | Is it possible to do? |
| 11:36.44 | Mery | you can do something like that by adjusting width an height of the texture |
| 11:36.49 | Mery | and use SetTexCoords |
| 11:36.50 | Grem | Right, I know that's an option |
| 11:37.13 | Grem | I didnt know if there was a flag or option or trick to making parts of a texture not render if it's not properly positioned on it's parent frame |
| 11:37.54 | Mery | I think there isn't |
| 11:38.02 | Grem | k |
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| 12:02.36 | Grem | Is there a way to get mouse cursor position relative to a certain frame? |
| 12:05.32 | cncfanatics | do some math |
| 12:07.11 | Grem | Figured =) |
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| 12:37.36 | Kirkburn | AnduinLothar, only make those addon pages if that's where the main source of info will be |
| 12:37.46 | Kirkburn | (Cosmos addons excluded) |
| 12:37.56 | AnduinLothar | blah blah, i dont have any info anywhere else :P |
| 12:38.05 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 12:38.25 | Kirkburn | I've barely visited the wiki recently, it's seems to be running quite well now :D |
| 12:41.11 | Kirkburn | I'm sure that everyone in the beta here is contributing lots of info to it, just like me =) |
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| 12:49.29 | Thunder_Child | uhhh...sure |
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| 13:00.41 | Atog_Code | hey there. I'm a bit stumped. I'm trying to whisper a valid itemlink string, and it disconnects me from the server. Am I missing something? |
| 13:03.12 | axxo | server may not have seen it yet |
| 13:04.40 | Atog_Code | hmm. |
| 13:04.56 | Atog_Code | it's a broken fang. That can't be it. |
| 13:05.33 | Atog_Code | in fact, what I'm doing is taking a itemlink that's been whispered to me, and send it back to that person. |
| 13:05.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | well u probely made a litle mistake in the link |
| 13:07.23 | Atog_Code | yes, although I did double check it |
| 13:07.33 | Atog_Code | but it is supposed to work like that, right |
| 13:08.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes |
| 13:08.34 | Atog_Code | thanks a lot. |
| 13:10.24 | Atog_Code | hmm |
| 13:10.53 | Atog_Code | ok, on a received whisper, I whisper back |
| 13:11.31 | Atog_Code | WhisperMessage(arg1, "whisper", 0, player); |
| 13:11.39 | Atog_Code | and that disconnects me from the server |
| 13:12.12 | Atog_Code | actually, it's SendChatMessage(arg1, "whisper", 0, player), but hey |
| 13:13.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | 3rth parameter |
| 13:13.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | shoulnd be a number |
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| 13:13.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | i think |
| 13:14.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | try GetDefaultLanguage("player") |
| 13:14.41 | Atog_Code | oh, 0 works fine, for tons of other addons, I don't think it's that |
| 13:15.07 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke it just doesnt seem to take a number on this page http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage :p |
| 13:15.11 | Atog_Code | heh. |
| 13:15.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | as for the rest it can only be that the link is corrupted |
| 13:15.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | i think |
| 13:15.33 | Atog_Code | you're right, it can't be |
| 13:16.04 | Atog_Code | my code is actually "SendChatMessage(msg, "WHISPER", nil, player)" |
| 13:16.14 | Atog_Code | and that disconnects me. |
| 13:16.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | well then msg is a invalig string |
| 13:16.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | pint it out |
| 13:16.47 | Atog_Code | I did :( |
| 13:17.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | like print(string.sub(msg,"|","||")) |
| 13:17.04 | Atog_Code | I did. |
| 13:17.07 | Atog_Code | that works. |
| 13:17.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | well i cant think of anything else than a invalid message |
| 13:19.01 | Atog_Code | no worries. I appreciate it |
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| 13:22.54 | Atog_Code | I'll debug it later, thanks for the help |
| 13:35.34 | Corr[home] | whoa, Mage > Arcane > Mind Mastery looks really cool |
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| 13:38.48 | Corr[home] | Spell Power: Increases the critical strike damage bonus of all spells by 50%. It's 50% by default, so does that make the bonus 100%, or just 75%? As i understand WoW math, it's 100%. |
| 13:40.19 | ag` | it's 100% |
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| 13:46.07 | Thardal | ruin says "increases by 100%" |
| 13:48.11 | cncfanatics | its 75% btw (i'm a mage in beta) |
| 13:48.31 | cncfanatics | mainly made to stack with the other crit talents |
| 13:56.35 | Mery | actually increase by 50% + another increase by 50% should be 125% |
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| 14:44.11 | Maldivia | hmm, is there a Bindings.xml syntax, for creating secure frame Click bindings? |
| 14:45.26 | Maldivia | for instance, something like <Binding name="bla" header="blah" frame="MySecureFrame" button="RightButton" /> |
| 14:47.08 | Kirkburn | Strange video of the day: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6185514.stm |
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| 15:02.30 | cladhaire | Maldivia: No, you need to make those bindings using SetBindingClick |
| 15:02.48 | Maldivia | could be a nice addition tohugh |
| 15:03.05 | cladhaire | a few people have been pushing for an overall enhanced binding interface |
| 15:03.09 | cladhaire | which would allow it |
| 15:03.49 | Maldivia | well, it would remove the burden from addons to capture and assign the keybindings |
| 15:04.21 | Maldivia | and since the click bindings are already stored by the default UI, I think it would be logical for it to handle it |
| 15:05.02 | cladhaire | yes, they've been working on/pushing it for the past month and a half |
| 15:05.07 | cladhaire | since SetBindingClick ever showed up. |
| 15:05.10 | cladhaire | but there's nothing as of yet. |
| 15:05.41 | Maldivia | Ok |
| 15:06.31 | Thunder_Child | and no lib that can handle the interface automaticly? |
| 15:06.38 | cladhaire | no |
| 15:06.46 | cladhaire | because it would need SV's. |
| 15:06.58 | cladhaire | so it would need to be an addon |
| 15:08.22 | Thunder_Child | ok, so, no superadd that can handle the interface? |
| 15:08.29 | Thunder_Child | superaddon* |
| 15:08.32 | cladhaire | an addon probably could be written |
| 15:08.33 | cladhaire | it hasn't ben. |
| 15:09.01 | Maldivia | is there a way to enumerate the click bindings? |
| 15:09.12 | cladhaire | i dont believe so |
| 15:09.24 | Thunder_Child | hhmm...if it had the ability to create a virtual clcik bindings it might be usefull for more than that |
| 15:09.38 | cladhaire | yes.. but that only helps that addon |
| 15:09.42 | cladhaire | other addons need to be able to consume it too |
| 15:09.48 | cladhaire | which is probably why it hasn't been written |
| 15:09.57 | cladhaire | its a glaring hole in the current implementation |
| 15:10.32 | Thunder_Child | if it's so glaring how come it hasnt been fixed? |
| 15:10.39 | cladhaire | ... |
| 15:10.42 | cladhaire | time |
| 15:10.43 | cladhaire | effort |
| 15:10.47 | cladhaire | and its not that important. |
| 15:11.09 | Thunder_Child | to blizz or moders? |
| 15:11.11 | cladhaire | you know slouken only does the UI stuff as a side-portion of his job.. He actually does have things to do at work every day. |
| 15:11.34 | Maldivia | his main work is with AI, right? |
| 15:11.38 | cladhaire | not anymore. |
| 15:11.42 | cladhaire | as i understand it. |
| 15:11.43 | Maldivia | ohh |
| 15:11.51 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 15:11.56 | cladhaire | the point being UI has never been his fulltime job |
| 15:12.02 | cladhaire | he does it all for us |
| 15:12.29 | Thunder_Child | cant coders write it and have him implament it? |
| 15:12.33 | Thunder_Child | to cust some time |
| 15:12.35 | Thunder_Child | cut* |
| 15:12.39 | cladhaire | so write it? |
| 15:12.41 | cladhaire | i dont have time, do you? |
| 15:12.43 | Maldivia | I also doubt Blizzard anticipated the large community that the UI possibilities would form |
| 15:12.50 | cladhaire | not to mention it requires changes on the C iimplementation |
| 15:12.54 | cladhaire | its not a lua side issue. |
| 15:13.59 | Thunder_Child | by this point blizz could prolly hire someone to take care of the UI as a primary job |
| 15:14.07 | cladhaire | they have UI people. |
| 15:14.12 | cladhaire | but they also have jobs too. |
| 15:14.21 | cladhaire | you mistake the UI and the C side of things entirely |
| 15:14.26 | Thunder_Child | yes thats why i am saying primary |
| 15:14.34 | cladhaire | there are primary UI people |
| 15:14.48 | cladhaire | and they do graphics, and make changes to the underlying blizzard addons/code |
| 15:15.04 | Thunder_Child | isnt that all in the c? |
| 15:15.08 | cladhaire | no |
| 15:15.10 | cladhaire | not in the least |
| 15:15.22 | cladhaire | the UI and the C API are entirely different |
| 15:15.23 | Maldivia | well, the 2.0 is a very major release, with a major change to the UI... but then over the next 5 months, after TBC has been relesec, there might only be very minor changes, that doesn't require a full staff of UI developers |
| 15:15.27 | cladhaire | although the UI relies on teh C API |
| 15:15.40 | cladhaire | you're simplifying the problem |
| 15:15.57 | cladhaire | its bad business for blizzard to hire someone to cater to our needs.. it would be entirely stupid. |
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| 15:16.19 | Thunder_Child | it's called buisness |
| 15:16.24 | cladhaire | ... |
| 15:16.25 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 15:16.39 | Thunder_Child | you cater to your clients |
| 15:16.44 | cladhaire | we aren't their clients |
| 15:16.47 | cladhaire | why don't you understand that? |
| 15:17.07 | Thunder_Child | i ment the general wow population |
| 15:17.14 | cladhaire | yeah and the general wow population doesn't care |
| 15:17.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | C api ftw ! |
| 15:17.40 | cladhaire | when asked, they want blizzard to spend time on content, and quests, and ai, and spells, and talents, than to spend time making a ui for dynamically binding and saving clicks and spells |
| 15:17.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | do bottuns outmagicly highligh on mouseover ? |
| 15:17.52 | cladhaire | no |
| 15:18.01 | cladhaire | well if you have a highlight texture, I think they do |
| 15:18.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke cool |
| 15:18.14 | cladhaire | not to mention the details of dynamically created frames, what do you do with a saved frame/binding, when the frame doesn't exist onload? |
| 15:18.35 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dont understand why i cant unload a frame |
| 15:18.43 | cladhaire | because you dont' need to |
| 15:18.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | i mean u can just set the table to nil. |
| 15:18.46 | cladhaire | there are a number of reasons |
| 15:18.56 | cladhaire | and they all boil down to.. if you want to delete/remove a frame, you're doing something wrong. |
| 15:19.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | well i tell u my latest addon im working on |
| 15:19.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | it allows ppl to draw new sort of bottun on screen |
| 15:19.28 | cladhaire | they're userdata.. and GC of userdata is.. sketchy to say the least, and could cause a number of problems, especially with all the references to the objects that exist. |
| 15:19.33 | cladhaire | okay. |
| 15:19.34 | |FF|Im2good4u | for small macro's |
| 15:19.45 | Maldivia | cladhaire: well, click bindings refer to the button via name, so I would suspect that the binding would be recreated onload, non-functional, until a frame with that name was created |
| 15:20.01 | cladhaire | Maldivia: But thats inconsistent with everything else in the UI, and its a challenge in and of itself. |
| 15:20.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | but they should be able to switch witch ones they wana see even after they hae shown 1 they should still be able to hide :O |
| 15:20.23 | cladhaire | okay, you haven't explained why you need to delete frames |
| 15:21.06 | Kaso | can i do var = (function() return <stuff> end)() to store the return of my newly created function into var? (or something similar if i have the syntax wrong) |
| 15:21.23 | Maldivia | Kaso: yes |
| 15:21.24 | cladhaire | yes you can |
| 15:21.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | u can |
| 15:21.35 | Kaso | sweet |
| 15:21.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | but whitout the () just var = function bla end |
| 15:21.43 | Maldivia | but why? |
| 15:21.49 | Maldivia | |FF|Im2good4u: no |
| 15:21.52 | cladhaire | Ff: you need the () |
| 15:22.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO |
| 15:22.02 | cladhaire | it won't work without it. |
| 15:22.17 | Maldivia | Kaso: why not just var = <stuff>; ? |
| 15:22.27 | Kaso | well stuff is an if statement |
| 15:22.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | i... i never used those ( ) aronud it and it works just fine ! |
| 15:22.58 | Kaso | if frame:Getheight()> frame2:GetHeight() then return 1 end |
| 15:23.10 | cladhaire | > print(function() return 1 end ()) |
| 15:23.10 | cladhaire | stdin:1: ')' expected near '(' |
| 15:23.13 | Thunder_Child | they thought you meant function() without the () i think |
| 15:23.22 | cladhaire | no, |
| 15:23.27 | cladhaire | function() return something end |
| 15:23.28 | Maldivia | val = (frame:Getheight() > frame2:GetHeight()) and 1 |
| 15:23.30 | cladhaire | that's a function reference |
| 15:23.35 | cladhaire | in order to CALL if you, need to enclose it in parens. |
| 15:23.55 | cladhaire | > print((function() return 1 end)()) |
| 15:23.55 | cladhaire | 1 |
| 15:23.58 | cladhaire | try it for yourself |
| 15:24.07 | Kaso | that'll return the same Maldivia? |
| 15:24.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | i meaned it like this |
| 15:24.16 | |FF|Im2good4u | local ItemLinkRecolor_ToolTipTextIsRed = function(TooltipFrame) |
| 15:24.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | if TooltipFrame and TooltipFrame:IsVisible() then --dont scan colors of invisable frames |
| 15:24.28 | cladhaire | meant, not meaned. |
| 15:24.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | oops sorry |
| 15:24.34 | Maldivia | Kaso: yeah |
| 15:24.36 | cladhaire | and that's not what he asked. |
| 15:24.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | local ItemLinkRecolor_ToolTipTextIsRed = function(TooltipFrame) |
| 15:24.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | if TooltipFrame and TooltipFrame:IsVisible() then --dont scan colors of invisable frames |
| 15:24.48 | |FF|Im2good4u | stoopind cliboard :x |
| 15:24.53 | cladhaire | well don't worry about it |
| 15:24.57 | cladhaire | you're not answering the question |
| 15:24.59 | cladhaire | =) |
| 15:25.00 | Kaso | swett, even better, no GC problems form creating the functions! |
| 15:25.22 | cladhaire | |FF|Im2good4u: So why do you need to delete frames again? |
| 15:25.23 | Maldivia | Kaso: result = (expression) and (iftrue) or (iffalse) |
| 15:25.46 | cladhaire | the only caveat being that iftrue and iffalse can't be the value "false" |
| 15:25.47 | Maldivia | Kaso: for a tertiary operator |
| 15:26.31 | Maldivia | ahh yeah |
| 15:27.07 | Maldivia | well, iffalse can be |
| 15:27.17 | cladhaire | *nod*, was testing cause i wans't sure. |
| 15:27.56 | Kaso | actuallty i'llpos the question again unless you guys have a better awneser, the reason im doing this is to find out if a certain tooltip line is wrapped, im using : wrap = (getglobal(tooltip:GetName().."TextLeft"..i):GetHeight() > getglobal(tooltip:GetName().."TextLeft1):GetHeight()) and 1 but it seems rather hackish |
| 15:29.13 | Kaso | (also man my typing sucks today, i need to put my contact lenses in) |
| 15:30.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | does any1 know the texture names or path to the highlight texture of a actionbar button |
| 15:31.32 | cladhaire | <HighlightTexture alphaMode="ADD" file="Interface\Buttons\ButtonHilight-Square"/> |
| 15:31.36 | Maldivia | Kaso: hmm, if text:GetWidth() < text:GetStringWidth() then ? |
| 15:31.44 | cladhaire | takes three seconds to find it on wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 15:31.46 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 15:31.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | huh ? how |
| 15:32.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | tell meh |
| 15:32.07 | cladhaire | go look at the file |
| 15:32.25 | cladhaire | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/compare/2026144/beta |
| 15:32.36 | cladhaire | then click on ActionButtonTemplate.xml |
| 15:32.40 | cladhaire | or look locally, in the blizz data files |
| 15:33.01 | Kaso | yah, that works better |
| 15:33.28 | Kaso | still sorta hackish :< we should have GameTooltip:GetLine(index) imo |
| 15:33.49 | cladhaire | Kaso: I'm confused |
| 15:33.59 | |FF|Im2good4u | dahm your good cladhaire :p |
| 15:34.06 | cladhaire | why does it matter if a tooltip line is wrapped, you can just change the width of the tooltip and it'll be wrapped less. |
| 15:35.01 | Kaso | basically im wanting to store a tooltip so i can re-create it, so i want to know if i should set [,isWrap] argument for AddLine() or not for each line of the tooltip |
| 15:35.16 | cladhaire | just store the text strings |
| 15:35.25 | cladhaire | and then add them as usual when you recreate it |
| 15:35.29 | cladhaire | allowing each line to wrap, and it'll work itself out. |
| 15:35.36 | cladhaire | since a wrapped line is just a single text string. |
| 15:35.41 | Kaso | like var = TooltipTextLeft1 |
| 15:35.53 | cladhaire | var = TooltipTextLeft1:GetText() |
| 15:35.58 | Corr[home] | can a person with a US-based account login to a UK realm? |
| 15:36.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | no |
| 15:36.08 | cladhaire | nope |
| 15:36.09 | Kaso | im doing that clad |
| 15:36.28 | Kaso | oh, but you mean use SetText to output it |
| 15:36.36 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 15:36.43 | cladhaire | just get the text, save it, and then set it. |
| 15:37.01 | cladhaire | fontstrings naturally will wrap down to as many lines as you need, based on anchors. |
| 15:37.09 | Kaso | interesting |
| 15:37.19 | Kaso | lemme play around with that |
| 15:41.18 | Mery | http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_FontString |
| 16:07.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Oooh, finally it can turn anti-aliasing back on on TBC on Vista on on on on - previously it would cause the sound to go all juddery |
| 16:08.50 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:08.52 | cladhaire | grats |
| 16:09.09 | Kirkburn|afk | :D |
| 16:09.49 | Kirkburn|afk | oh, oh, I may have spoken too soon :/ |
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| 16:10.50 | Kaso | cladhaire |
| 16:10.55 | cladhaire | aye |
| 16:10.57 | Kirkburn|afk | The weird thing is, having it on or off has little effect on my FPS |
| 16:11.12 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/2760 the test function, is that what you were meaning? |
| 16:11.13 | Kirkburn|afk | (which is around 14 in Shattrath) |
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| 16:12.10 | cladhaire | Kaso: line 8 will never happen, that's a false condition always, i.e. it will error if tooltip doesn't exist |
| 16:12.46 | Kirkburn|afk | woooooahhh, the sound is *awful* on the login screen |
| 16:13.10 | cladhaire | you shouldn't need to store wrap on line 18, was what i was saying. or am i looking at the wrongt place? |
| 16:13.24 | cladhaire | oh, duh.. you want me looking at test() |
| 16:13.28 | Kaso | well the storing function is left how it was |
| 16:14.01 | cladhaire | yeah thats basically it |
| 16:14.11 | cladhaire | since those fontstrings are anchored to have a fixed width |
| 16:14.28 | Kaso | see im using that and A) the wrapping isnt working properly B) the tooltip hides if i :Show() |
| 16:15.06 | cladhaire | okay give me a second |
| 16:15.12 | cladhaire | i'll try to make a minimal case |
| 16:15.13 | cladhaire | to test |
| 16:15.39 | Kaso | thanks for the help |
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| 16:21.13 | cladhaire | hrm, i know this works.. just not sure why its not. |
| 16:21.15 | cladhaire | *ponder* |
| 16:21.48 | Kaso | wierd |
| 16:22.06 | cladhaire | you could manually set anchors and make it work that way |
| 16:22.15 | cladhaire | this is why tooltips are nasty =) |
| 16:22.46 | Kaso | seems complicated, perhaps i should just use the linewidth to check wrapping like i am storing in the scan funcion and use AddLine |
| 16:22.53 | cladhaire | *shake* |
| 16:22.58 | cladhaire | why not just save the width of the string. |
| 16:23.32 | Kaso | hm, that makes sense, but i still cant use :Show() cos i thinks the tooltip has no lines |
| 16:23.49 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 16:23.50 | cladhaire | good point |
| 16:23.53 | cladhaire | lemme look again |
| 16:25.08 | cladhaire | store wrap with "wrap = TextLeftX:GetWidth() < TextLeftX:GetStringWidth() and 1" |
| 16:25.33 | Kaso | then use that in AddLine() |
| 16:25.33 | Maldivia | wrap = (TextLeftX:GetWidth() < TextLeftX:GetStringWidth()) |
| 16:25.35 | Maldivia | is enough :) |
| 16:25.37 | cladhaire | if GetWidth() is larger than GetStringWidth() then its wrapped imo |
| 16:25.39 | cladhaire | oh yeah |
| 16:25.41 | cladhaire | idiot. |
| 16:26.01 | Kaso | wont that store true? |
| 16:26.09 | cladhaire | true/false yes |
| 16:26.25 | Kaso | isnt the isWrap flag of AddLine 1/nil |
| 16:26.30 | cladhaire | probably |
| 16:26.33 | cladhaire | thats why i did 1 =) |
| 16:26.44 | Maldivia | it's true or false/nil |
| 16:26.48 | Maldivia | and 1 evaluates to true |
| 16:27.26 | Kaso | wowwiki lies :> |
| 16:28.54 | Thunder_Child | i just ran into a lock with 11.2K hp...*cries* |
| 16:28.59 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:32.02 | Kaso | druids with 16k are easy to heal as tanks in 5mans |
| 16:32.32 | Thunder_Child | yes but this was pvp, and were were on different sides |
| 16:32.38 | Corr[home] | 16k? |
| 16:32.43 | Corr[home] | you're talking about WoW? |
| 16:32.52 | Kaso | tbc |
| 16:32.59 | Thunder_Child | i was talking about live |
| 16:33.09 | Kaso | arg |
| 16:33.13 | Kaso | wtf is he wearing |
| 16:33.23 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea, i ran...fast |
| 16:35.18 | Kaso | he must have had a titans on for that |
| 16:35.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | i use this http://wowi.pastey.net/2761 but my scrollbar is is shown outside of the list frame does any1 know wut i did wrong ? |
| 16:35.51 | Thunder_Child | doesnt that still put him at 9.2K normal? |
| 16:36.46 | Thunder_Child | say 8.5K without fort |
| 16:37.12 | Kaso | well if he stacked stam gear that isnt unbelvible |
| 16:41.48 | Corr[home] | 9.2k? maybe... |
| 16:42.24 | cladhaire | do we need to check arg1 on ADDON_LOADED anymore.. I don't see how we cold have an issue temporally |
| 16:43.10 | Maldivia | isn't ADDON_LOADED fired for every addon? |
| 16:43.22 | cladhaire | yes |
| 16:43.27 | cladhaire | but the first one your addon receives is always that addon's. |
| 16:43.29 | cladhaire | so you can unregister |
| 16:43.31 | cladhaire | i believe |
| 16:43.50 | Maldivia | hmm... |
| 16:46.21 | cladhaire | i can't think of a place that wouldn't work |
| 16:46.27 | cladhaire | and it gets around things like !!!SomeAddonName |
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| 16:47.24 | Cide | how so, cladhaire? |
| 16:47.32 | cladhaire | what do you mean? |
| 16:47.38 | Cide | how does it get around "!!!"? |
| 16:47.50 | Maldivia | hmm, yeah - it seems like addons are loaded individually |
| 16:48.12 | cladhaire | I mean, with something that uses !!!, you don't know exactly what the user has named it to make it work, or whats changed.. so there's no solid way to know what arg1 you should be looking for |
| 16:48.22 | Cide | ah |
| 16:48.41 | cladhaire | And the first ADDON_LOADED your addon receives HAS to be yours, as long as you registered for the event prior to that event |
| 16:49.00 | cladhaire | maybe LoadWith breaks it, but I doubt it. |
| 16:49.49 | Maldivia | I don't see how load with should break it |
| 16:50.33 | cladhaire | *nod* |
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| 16:54.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol all my addon names are in color :P like "* |cFFFD51C6Item Link Recolor|r" |
| 16:54.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | the cool side effect is that they also get displayed on top of the list and loaded before any other addons :P |
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| 17:07.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | can any1 figure out why my scrollbar isnt put into the right parant ? |
| 17:07.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://wowi.pastey.net/2761 |
| 17:08.50 | Thunder_Child | anyone know what gvalleymain is ? |
| 17:09.22 | Mery | |FF|Im2good4u: what happens (or does not happen)? |
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| 17:11.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | well the listframe doesnt seem to show anything at all i jsut see my scroll size in the midle of my screen even if i have my RaidLeaderAssist_Interface frame closed |
| 17:11.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | i laos cannot use the scroll bar its just sitting there |
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| 17:15.12 | Mery | well how does your "FauxScrollFrame_Update" in RaidLeaderAssist_Interface_List_Frame_OnUpdate look like? |
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| 17:18.42 | kaiden | Anyone know what the addon is called that is TBC compatible that changes the player frame to add the xp bar? |
| 17:19.55 | Kaso | Well ag_UF has an xp bar on it, but it isnt the default unitframes |
| 17:20.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | function RaidLeaderAssist_Interface_List_Frame_OnUpdate() |
| 17:20.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | local total |
| 17:20.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | total = 30 |
| 17:20.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | like this http://wowi.pastey.net/2762 |
| 17:21.05 | kaiden | Kaso, yeah i'm trying to find the ones Maul uses in his screenshots for Trinity Buttons |
| 17:21.26 | Kaso | cant say i know |
| 17:22.06 | kaiden | well duh, he includes it with his addon |
| 17:22.07 | kaiden | TrinityXP |
| 17:22.11 | kaiden | i'm bright ;p |
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| 17:24.12 | Kaso | cladhaire as you still here? |
| 17:24.14 | Kaso | are |
| 17:24.17 | cladhaire | yes |
| 17:24.26 | cladhaire | getting in the shower soon |
| 17:24.38 | Kaso | you said about line 8 of http://pastey.net/2760 i cant remeber what the issue was |
| 17:24.52 | cladhaire | you have if not tooltip and tooltip:SomeMethod() |
| 17:25.03 | cladhaire | that will never work, because if tooltip doesn't exist, then you can't run methods in it. |
| 17:25.20 | Kaso | oh true |
| 17:25.24 | Kaso | need or dont i |
| 17:25.34 | Kaso | thanks |
| 17:30.02 | Mery | |FF|Im2good4u: I'm sorry I can't see why it's not working... |
| 17:35.48 | Kaso | are the "of the X" bonuses obtainable from game data files? |
| 17:38.42 | Maldivia | somewhere, yes |
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| 17:40.26 | VoidRaider | Hi |
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| 17:56.08 | Kaso | arrg |
| 17:56.25 | Kaso | why cant blizzard decide on a set notation to use on tooltips |
| 17:58.10 | Thunder_Child | because blizzard want to make you think |
| 17:58.25 | Thunder_Child | to excersize your mind |
| 17:58.44 | Kaso | they want to have me having a huge table of patterns just to match "4 Hit Rating" |
| 17:59.06 | Thunder_Child | that was the other reason |
| 17:59.40 | Kaso | "Old" items with any rating have "Equip: Increases your whatever rating by (%d+)%." |
| 17:59.48 | Kaso | new items have "Improves" |
| 17:59.53 | Kaso | whats the point of that change :< |
| 18:01.15 | Thunder_Child | i'm sure they have a good reason for it |
| 18:02.03 | Tem | Kaso, it gets better |
| 18:02.52 | Kaso | oh? |
| 18:03.06 | Tem | "Improves Spell Critical Strike rating" "Equip: Increases Spell Critical Strike" "Improves Spell Critical Hit rating" "Equip: Increases Spell Critical hit rating" |
| 18:03.13 | Tem | +X spell crit rating |
| 18:03.19 | Tem | the list goes on |
| 18:03.23 | Kaso | yah |
| 18:03.36 | Cide | when parsing stuff for ctprofiles |
| 18:03.41 | Tem | it makes me want to go to the itemization office and kick some guys in the balls |
| 18:03.44 | Cide | I found 8 different ways to express "+X arcane damage" |
| 18:03.56 | Cide | used by different things |
| 18:04.05 | Tem | I had the same problem |
| 18:04.16 | Kaso | i have this so far, http://pastey.net/2763 nowhere near complete yet |
| 18:07.08 | Tem | Kaso, I'd suggest a change in structure |
| 18:07.20 | Kaso | shoot |
| 18:07.26 | Tem | patterns[pat] = bonusType |
| 18:08.06 | Kaso | i see |
| 18:09.09 | Kaso | yah that'd proberly be easier to itterate over |
| 18:09.13 | Tem | mhmm |
| 18:09.23 | Tem | lots nicer on memory as well |
| 18:18.09 | Thunder_Child | how come mounts are not in the 1 sec global cooldown? |
| 18:18.22 | Kaso | cos theyre items |
| 18:18.30 | Kaso | items arent on GC |
| 18:19.06 | Thunder_Child | hmm..remind me not to ask questions when riding into 30 on O in AV |
| 18:19.25 | Thunder_Child | but thank you |
| 18:19.38 | Kaso | hmm |
| 18:19.39 | Kaso | actually |
| 18:19.44 | Kaso | i may be wrong |
| 18:20.25 | Kaso | nah thats right yah |
| 18:20.31 | Kaso | items arent on CD |
| 18:21.31 | Thunder_Child | but if i am wanding, then my spells are on a CD but not viceversa? |
| 18:21.57 | Kaso | wanding isnt using an item |
| 18:22.04 | Kaso | "Shoot" is a spell |
| 18:22.46 | Thunder_Child | well the "Shoot" button doesnt do the CD when i cast a spell though |
| 18:23.34 | Kaso | hmm thats wierd |
| 18:24.10 | Kaso | wanding causinga GC on spells and itself, but GC from other spells doesnt effect shoot |
| 18:24.16 | Thunder_Child | happens to be next to the mount button but surounded on all sides by spells so it kinda sticks out |
| 18:24.17 | Kaso | never seen that before |
| 18:24.56 | Thunder_Child | thats doesnt happen to you? |
| 18:25.14 | Kaso | what exactly |
| 18:25.24 | Thunder_Child | what i am describing |
| 18:25.43 | Kaso | give me a test to do |
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| 18:27.08 | Thunder_Child | hmm..shoot also seems to triger the CD of my mount button |
| 18:28.30 | Thunder_Child | test...well have some spell buttons and the shoot button on a bar and cast a spell, watch the CD, then do it with shooting and watch the CD, see if it matched what i am talking about |
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| 18:29.22 | Kaso | when i cast a spell only spells get cooldown, when i cast shoot, all spell, shoot and items get cooldown |
| 18:29.42 | Thunder_Child | yea thats about what i get |
| 18:29.49 | Thunder_Child | i was just trying to figure out why |
| 18:29.56 | Kaso | Shoot wand is wierd i think |
| 18:30.32 | Thunder_Child | thats why mele is preferable to shoot because it doesnt trigger a spell CD |
| 18:30.47 | Thunder_Child | when wanding you have to stop for a sec then cast the spell |
| 18:31.03 | Thunder_Child | with mele you can cast during an attack |
| 18:31.14 | Kaso | mmhm, wanding is rather annoying, it'd be awesome it if was like hunter autoshoot |
| 18:31.53 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 18:32.12 | Cide | except mages could wand while casting spells |
| 18:32.19 | Cide | and use instants in-between |
| 18:32.33 | Thunder_Child | but doing that cancles the autoshot |
| 18:32.42 | Cide | not for hunters |
| 18:32.50 | Cide | and not if it was like auto shot |
| 18:32.56 | Kaso | perhaps have it break on moving and have spells reset the shot timer like aimed does would make it more ballanced |
| 18:33.18 | Thunder_Child | all i can say is that it is preferable to mele than wand because of the CD |
| 18:33.32 | Kaso | but anyone who has a wand will never melee :> |
| 18:33.38 | Cide | wands have higher dps |
| 18:33.39 | Thunder_Child | i do |
| 18:33.44 | Thunder_Child | because of the CD |
| 18:33.52 | Kaso | what are you? a firestone spec warlock? |
| 18:33.59 | Cide | Thunder_Child: but I take it you aren't using a 130+ dps wand |
| 18:34.13 | Thunder_Child | not quite |
| 18:34.16 | Kaso | my wand hits for like 200, my melee hits for like 10 |
| 18:35.16 | Thunder_Child | well i do wonder why they did that in the first place |
| 18:35.24 | zenzelezz | EU-Silvermoon seems to be having major issues all of a sudden |
| 18:35.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh |
| 18:35.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | there goes my raid :( |
| 18:36.24 | Garoun|Loupana | has anyone figured out if there is any major difference between Aldor and Scryers in Shattrath? |
| 18:36.42 | Kaso | well the rewards are differnt |
| 18:36.54 | Garoun|Loupana | that's the main thing I'm trying to figure out :P |
| 18:36.56 | Kaso | also for aldor you grind demons for rep, for scryers you grind blood elfs |
| 18:37.14 | Kaso | thats about the only different |
| 18:37.42 | Garoun|Loupana | I need to take a close look at the rewards because I'd think one is more caster/healer focused and the other is more melee focused |
| 18:38.40 | zenzelezz | heh... I can't control my character in any way, and now the guild leader decides to have the guild cleaning session... so I'm sitting here watching "... has been kicked out of the guild" spam |
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| 19:00.41 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:01.04 | zenzelezz | seems like Eastern Kingdoms died >.< |
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| 19:15.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | now its competley dead in silvermoon |
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| 19:18.03 | sylvanaar | yeah DE and then whats dutch? |
| 19:18.26 | sylvanaar | is it NL? |
| 19:18.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | yep |
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| 19:19.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | NL = Netherland = Dutch , DE = deutch = Gernmany |
| 19:19.23 | sylvanaar | i think the conversation im replying to is in the backbuffer |
| 19:19.35 | |FF|Im2good4u | probely :p |
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| 19:27.40 | TuX_BuBling | hello |
| 19:30.11 | MentalPower | ~lart malreth |
| 19:30.34 | malreth | Cair-Cair! |
| 19:31.20 | Cairenn | ! |
| 19:31.22 | Cairenn | >< |
| 19:32.47 | malreth | so... i think my fiancee has settled on a wedding date and i think she'll stick to this one |
| 19:33.06 | malreth | she wants Aug 8, 2008 |
| 19:33.29 | malreth | just so she can get a date of 8/8/8... |
| 19:33.49 | malreth | she's asian and that's a very lucky date to get married on |
| 19:34.02 | malreth | very extremely lucky |
| 19:34.06 | MentalPower | ok... |
| 19:34.08 | Cairenn | cool |
| 19:34.36 | malreth | also |
| 19:34.41 | malreth | we found a cat last night |
| 19:35.20 | malreth | and since we actually get coyotes around these apartments, we took him in |
| 19:35.40 | malreth | he owns the place now and has been terrorizing the dog with hit-and-run attacks |
| 19:36.55 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:36.55 | Cide | haha, that's great |
| 19:36.56 | Corrodias | what all are the effects of an Orb of Deception? |
| 19:36.58 | malreth | he's got a collar but no tags so I'm trying to find his owner |
| 19:39.02 | malreth | he's got a beautiful burnt orange coat... i've never seen a tabby like him |
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| 19:40.10 | malreth | Orb of Deception... I thought all it did was turn dwarves into trolls or something |
| 19:40.16 | Atog_Code | I have a problem with my editor, I think. When I try to do strfind(a, "]"), I can't seem to get it to work. |
| 19:40.24 | Atog_Code | malreth: it does. |
| 19:40.27 | Cairenn | it is somewhat unusual to see orange in a tabby |
| 19:42.40 | Tain | My cat is too co-dependant to run away. |
| 19:42.43 | Cide | Atog_Code: strfind(a, "%]") |
| 19:42.58 | Cide | ']' is a special character |
| 19:43.04 | Cide | so you need to escape it |
| 19:44.33 | malreth | "'Classic' tabbies are cats who also possess mc, a recessive mutant gene that produces the blotched pattern." |
| 19:44.42 | malreth | i love wikipedia |
| 19:47.17 | malreth | ok... time to put up some fliers and do some shopping... later folks! |
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| 19:55.42 | Atog_Code | oh, it's % ? |
| 19:55.51 | Atog_Code | I tried every escape code I knew |
| 19:56.06 | Kaso | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 19:56.22 | Atog_Code | thanks |
| 19:56.58 | Kaso | it shows how bad my memory is that i have a bookmark to section 5.4.1 |
| 20:01.58 | Atog_Code | works like a charm now. Thanks again. |
| 20:10.22 | Thardal | lua has so many things that i suspect they just made special as to not look like other programming languages |
| 20:10.36 | Thardal | like counting from 1, ~=, % as escape character |
| 20:10.38 | Thardal | its annoying |
| 20:12.40 | MentalPower | I woudn't say that was the reason |
| 20:12.52 | MentalPower | counting from 1 is more natural |
| 20:13.25 | MentalPower | ~= resembles the actual written not equals sign more than != |
| 20:13.33 | zenzelezz | % is the "escape" character in HTTP |
| 20:13.35 | MentalPower | and %... what zenzelezz said |
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| 20:27.25 | Industrial | I think it'd look better if it was counting from 0, != and \ as excape character |
| 20:27.28 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:27.46 | Cide | \ is the escape character |
| 20:27.50 | Cide | just not in patterns |
| 20:28.18 | Tain | I think pizza would be better if it were free. |
| 20:28.19 | Cide | and it makes sense to use another character for escape in patterns, because otherwise you have to escape the escape |
| 20:28.42 | Cide | "\\[\\d+\\]" |
| 20:28.55 | Cide | versus "%[%d+%]" |
| 20:28.59 | cryogen | pcre supports any escape character you like |
| 20:29.27 | Cide | cryogen: right, but if you use the escape character of the language, then you have to escape the escape unless you're using a raw string |
| 20:29.30 | cryogen | \ just happens to be the shell escape character so thats why people use it |
| 20:29.32 | Industrial | er Cide that doesnt make sense |
| 20:29.40 | Cide | Industrial: why not? |
| 20:29.44 | Industrial | \[\d+\] |
| 20:29.53 | cryogen | Cide: i was just making the point that "\" is not "the escape character" |
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| 20:30.02 | cryogen | s/not/not necessarily/ |
| 20:30.06 | Cide | cryogen: true, but it is in lua |
| 20:30.15 | Industrial | to escape % you need %% too, there is no difference |
| 20:30.18 | cryogen | in fact, i wonder how pcre cide is :) |
| 20:30.22 | cryogen | s!fact!test! |
| 20:30.31 | cryogen | s/cide/purl :p |
| 20:30.35 | cryogen | and it seems, not very :) |
| 20:30.45 | Cide | Industrial: yes there is |
| 20:31.07 | Cide | Industrial: in a normal string, you need to escape \ |
| 20:31.18 | Industrial | why.. |
| 20:31.22 | Cide | so in order to store "\" in the strong, you need to use "\\" |
| 20:31.26 | Cide | see for yourself |
| 20:31.33 | Industrial | breaks a line? |
| 20:31.47 | Industrial | er, string onto the next line |
| 20:31.51 | Cide | "\" -- errors, unfinished string |
| 20:32.19 | Cide | "\\" == [[\]] |
| 20:32.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | is there a more coment reason why i cant see my frame even i call :Show() ? |
| 20:33.04 | Cide | |FF|Im2good4u: no width/height, no visible elements, alpha = 0, no anchors |
| 20:33.06 | ckknight | you need a texture, you need a width/height, you need to set point |
| 20:33.06 | Cide | take a pick |
| 20:33.10 | Cide | parent hidden |
| 20:33.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol |
| 20:33.35 | Cide | secure frame in combat |
| 20:34.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke i got them to show up :P |
| 20:35.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | they are just nowhere attached to the parent like they should be ;( |
| 20:35.43 | Cide | yes they are, they are exactly where you told them to be :) |
| 20:35.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://wowi.pastey.net/2768 |
| 20:35.52 | Cide | the problem is that you didn't tell them to be where you want them to be |
| 20:36.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | i told thm tobe inside my interface frame on un yuiparent :P |
| 20:42.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | Cide: isnt this correct f:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",RaidLeaderAssist_Interface_GroupSelecter,"TOPLEFT",0,0) ? |
| 20:42.22 | Cide | that's valid lua, sure |
| 20:42.32 | Cide | but I have no idea if that's where you want it to be or not |
| 20:42.45 | Cide | I have no idea how you have it set up |
| 20:43.34 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dont realy have an idea either it sux at xml i used WoW UI Desinger and RaidLeaderAssist_Interface_GroupSelecter is jsut a "Panel" in witch i want my dropdown menu :p |
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| 20:46.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah i finely found it :( my lua file OnLoad was loaded before the XML file so when i set the point that frame didnt exist yet :P |
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| 21:03.47 | kergoth | does the music in zangarmarsh remind anyone else of close encounters of the third kind? |
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| 21:16.35 | |FF|Im2good4u | wut is the 2nd kind then ? |
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| 21:22.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo that was fun |
| 21:24.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | totally rocked this druid in tier 3 |
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| 21:25.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | lucky u |
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| 21:33.08 | Mike-N-Go | I am going to use GetRaidRosterInfo(), is there really any difference, or is one better, the return of class or fileName? |
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| 21:38.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | filename is localised |
| 21:38.26 | Cide | fileName is the english name in all caps |
| 21:38.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah yeh that wut i mean |
| 21:39.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | OnTextChanged <- is this called on every carecter i enter in my editbox ? |
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| 21:42.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | ot probely is but some other question is there a simpel way to make box numberic only? or do i have to check each letter they enter in it ? |
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| 21:46.05 | Mike-N-Go | So, it is better to use the un-localized one? |
| 21:48.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | depents |
| 21:49.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | if u wana print thing on screen localized or if u wana do some if statement on it since then u better only have 1 name for each class :P |
| 21:50.27 | Cide | that's a matter of design and what you're trying to do |
| 21:50.29 | Cide | read: up to you |
| 21:53.24 | Mery | http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5272/bevj5.png <-- this file is actually in the client (also they use another) |
| 21:53.42 | Mery | although* |
| 21:55.42 | Teomyr | haha, true :D |
| 21:59.17 | Tem|AFK | Industrial, take a look at regexen in Java |
| 21:59.27 | Tem|AFK | they used '\' as the escape character |
| 21:59.54 | Tem|AFK | so you end up with regexes that look like "\\s*(\\a+)" |
| 22:00.02 | Cide | exactly |
| 22:00.04 | Tem|AFK | it's quite awkward |
| 22:00.22 | Cide | in lua you could do [[\s*(\a+)]] |
| 22:00.27 | Cide | but that's also pretty awkward |
| 22:02.07 | Tem|AFK | it's even worse when you need to match '\' |
| 22:02.30 | Tem|AFK | you have to use "\\\\" to match a single '\' in the string |
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| 22:04.02 | Fisker | haha |
| 22:04.06 | Fisker | escapecodes rule? |
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| 22:20.24 | Ktron | woo, just starting trying BC |
| 22:22.10 | Teomyr | nice. have new keys been sent out? |
| 22:25.33 | Ktron | heh, I just found mine from a while ago |
| 22:27.32 | Teomyr | lucky one :D |
| 22:27.42 | Teomyr | need key... still waiting for mine :( |
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| 22:42.21 | VoidRaider | Hmm how can 50% of 1234 results 624, I made a Slider and when it stands on 50% it gives me the value '624' instead of '617' Oo |
| 22:42.55 | grimman|034 | I love being in charge of design projects sometimes. Coders go 'WTF IS THIS?' when they notice my 'iconDoThePointRightForMakeBenefitMoreOptions.png'. ;D |
| 22:44.02 | Cide | VoidRaider: do you have 0-100? |
| 22:44.15 | VoidRaider | yeah |
| 22:44.53 | Cide | that's 101 entries |
| 22:45.29 | VoidRaider | err nop I set to 1 |
| 22:45.35 | VoidRaider | so it's 1-100 |
| 22:45.36 | Cide | /shrug |
| 22:45.53 | Cide | 51/101 * 1234 = ~624 |
| 22:46.02 | Cide | err |
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| 22:46.22 | VoidRaider | :// |
| 22:46.24 | Cide | well, that's pretty flawed but oh well |
| 22:47.16 | Cide | I'd suggest you round the value yourself |
| 22:47.47 | VoidRaider | yeah I guess I'll do that haha |
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| 22:51.13 | Teomyr | about 25 european realms are down... players on the forums have gone berzerk :D |
| 22:51.51 | Cide | people are so dramatic |
| 22:51.51 | Cide | not like they can't do anything about it |
| 22:52.05 | VoidRaider | haha |
| 22:52.18 | zenzelezz | what annoys me is that they make a post about it on the General forum, but not a word on the Realm Status forums |
| 22:53.00 | Teomyr | there is one in the german realm status forum |
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| 22:55.22 | Teomyr | having your server go down as the first of 25 realms when nef is at 40% sucks |
| 22:55.29 | zenzelezz | I'm getting a bit tired of problems with that data center, but unlike the forum posters I don't really think it's a conspiracy on Blizzard's part |
| 22:56.06 | Teomyr | zenzelezz: true |
| 22:57.36 | Teomyr | its terrible, you can find much more whining on the forums than constructive posts |
| 23:01.45 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 23:02.33 | JoshBorke | ~seen kirov |
| 23:03.00 | purl | kirov <n=Kirov@204.155.78.140> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 34d 2h 12m 46s ago, saying: 'If anyone here is a fan of animation, check this out. http://www.ourmedia.org/node/106800'. |
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| 23:03.32 | Cide | wonder what happened to him! |
| 23:03.40 | Malivil | Hello |
| 23:03.44 | Cide | hi there, Malivil |
| 23:03.49 | JoshBorke | :( i need his help :( |
| 23:03.50 | Malivil | Man, i haven't been in here, (other than the other day) for months |
| 23:05.41 | Malivil | I wish i could post on the WoW UI forums without my account having time on it... |
| 23:06.24 | Cide | :) |
| 23:06.40 | Cide | if there's something you need to have posted, I'm sure someone else could post it for you |
| 23:07.06 | Malivil | Oh no, its just that i read posts and know the answer to a lot of questions andi can't post |
| 23:07.09 | Malivil | I like helping people =-/ |
| 23:07.21 | Malivil | Ill just wait till wednesday when i re-activate my account |
| 23:08.04 | JoshBorke | what happens wednesday? |
| 23:10.08 | Cairenn | he reactivates his account |
| 23:10.25 | JoshBorke | :P |
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| 23:11.47 | Malivil | I'm busy monday and tuesday |
| 23:11.51 | Malivil | so i dont wanna waste the time |
| 23:11.57 | Malivil | so ill just wait till wednesday |
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| 23:16.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:18.06 | Tain | Whoever decided that "season finales" wasn't enough and now we have to have "fall finales" needs to be shot. |
| 23:18.27 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 23:18.42 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.41 | JoshBorke | i hate the 5 episode seasons! |
| 23:22.42 | ckknight | agreed. |
| 23:22.47 | ckknight | I need at least 10 |
| 23:23.01 | ckknight | or 50 |
| 23:24.14 | Cide | what the hell |
| 23:24.18 | Cide | so, get this |
| 23:24.33 | Cide | START_AUTOREPEAT_SPELL is not fired when you enable an autorepeat spell (auto attack for example) |
| 23:24.42 | Cide | instead... STOP_AUTOREPEAT_SPELL is fired |
| 23:24.49 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 23:24.50 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:24.57 | AnduinLothar | you win cide |
| 23:25.18 | Cide | blizzard obviously wants me to die |
| 23:25.27 | Cide | how does that even make sense |
| 23:25.35 | Cide | and it ALSO fires when you... *gasp* STOP auto attacking |
| 23:26.39 | JoshBorke | did you determine why UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED fires twice for 'player'? |
| 23:26.50 | Malivil | Cide: Maybe thatsa bug |
| 23:26.59 | Cide | Malivil: I'd think so too |
| 23:27.06 | Tain | Stop, start, what's the difference really. |
| 23:27.11 | Malivil | Try posting it to see |
| 23:27.15 | Cide | eh |
| 23:27.43 | Tain | Is it you who are stopping the autorepeat? Or is the autorepeat really stopping you? |
| 23:27.56 | Malivil | There is no autorepeat. |
| 23:28.00 | Malivil | <.< >.> |
| 23:28.05 | Malivil | not to be taken literally |
| 23:28.46 | cladhaire | ... |
| 23:28.49 | cladhaire | I want to stab people: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4673#cmnt17999 |
| 23:29.16 | Malivil | what the hell |
| 23:29.29 | Malivil | Stupid people annoy me =-/ |
| 23:29.38 | Cairenn | meh, I can understand that |
| 23:29.55 | Cairenn | if that is their usual site, they likely don't want to go to more than one site to get the mods they like |
| 23:30.09 | cladhaire | its a website.. |
| 23:30.11 | Malivil | i reguarly browse like... 4 |
| 23:30.14 | cladhaire | it takes two seconds. |
| 23:30.19 | Cairenn | it's an understandable sentiment |
| 23:30.20 | cladhaire | i dont think there's any excuse. |
| 23:30.25 | Malivil | Curse, WoWI, Huru, ui.worldofwar, etc |
| 23:30.31 | Malivil | *Guru |
| 23:30.55 | Tain | Don't worry, someone will just download it and up it up at some new site for you anyway. |
| 23:31.44 | Malivil | I posted my addon on 4 different sites just so people wouldnt do that |
| 23:31.57 | cladhaire | i won't let people do it. |
| 23:32.00 | Malivil | And i got a collective 4000 downloads or something like that |
| 23:32.01 | cladhaire | i dont want to update on more than one site. |
| 23:32.08 | cladhaire | when it comes down to bugfixes and such, its a nightmare |
| 23:32.11 | Tain | Why clad? It takes two seconds. ;) |
| 23:32.21 | cladhaire | not to mention i've asked curse for features, and they still don't have them |
| 23:32.29 | Malivil | Yea, well. I wrote and re-wrote my addon in one weekend and havent touched it in months |
| 23:32.43 | Malivil | I think it still works, haha |
| 23:32.45 | cladhaire | so.. applebees changed their freaking menu last week |
| 23:32.48 | Malivil | Not quite sure... |
| 23:32.50 | cladhaire | so the food i want, isn't there anymore =/ |
| 23:32.50 | Malivil | Again? |
| 23:32.57 | Malivil | You sure? Did you ask? |
| 23:33.02 | cladhaire | they took the food network guy's food off the menu |
| 23:33.02 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 23:33.03 | cladhaire | i did |
| 23:33.05 | Malivil | Ruby Tuesday's changed thier menu and they still had what i wnated |
| 23:33.09 | cladhaire | i ordered, and she yelled at me. |
| 23:33.12 | Tain | haha |
| 23:33.13 | Malivil | it just wasnt on the menu for some reason o.O |
| 23:33.14 | Malivil | oo |
| 23:33.16 | cladhaire | I wanted the Herb Crusted Chicken |
| 23:33.18 | cladhaire | =/ |
| 23:33.22 | Tain | That chicken was good. |
| 23:33.23 | Malivil | And they couldnt do that? |
| 23:33.28 | cladhaire | nope |
| 23:33.31 | cladhaire | bastages |
| 23:33.33 | Malivil | What kind of chef do they have there? |
| 23:33.38 | cladhaire | .. 19 year old kids? |
| 23:33.45 | Malivil | Hey now, im 17... |
| 23:33.46 | Malivil | wait |
| 23:33.46 | Cide | ok, scratch that |
| 23:33.48 | Malivil | i cant cook |
| 23:33.53 | Cide | STOP fires on START, but *NOT* on STOP |
| 23:33.54 | Malivil | nevermind, you're right |
| 23:33.55 | Cide | what the hell i sthis?! |
| 23:34.03 | Cide | s/i s/is / |
| 23:34.05 | Malivil | Ok then Cide, i think that is a bug |
| 23:34.15 | Malivil | post it on the forums |
| 23:34.19 | Cide | yes, I know |
| 23:34.22 | Malivil | okie dokie |
| 23:34.23 | Tain | Maybe it's telling you that the start has stopped. |
| 23:34.24 | cladhaire | STOP_OR_START_SOME_EVENT_TO_BOTHER_CIDE is the internal name, imo |
| 23:34.24 | Malivil | nice find though |
| 23:34.34 | Cide | Tain: ooh! |
| 23:34.37 | Malivil | cladhaire: /agree |
| 23:34.45 | cladhaire | bbiab |
| 23:34.54 | cladhaire | carside pickup ftl, delivery ftw |
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| 23:35.11 | Tain | Leaving the house is overrated. |
| 23:35.14 | Malivil | carside is like pickup but being to lazy to get out of the car |
| 23:35.26 | Malivil | if youre gonna be lazy, just get delivery |
| 23:36.08 | Cide | oh my god |
| 23:36.11 | Tain | I had the last of my turkey leftovers for dinner. |
| 23:36.21 | Cide | IsAutoRepeatAction(id), which should return if the action id is auto-repeated, always returns nil |
| 23:36.24 | Cide | THE GAME HATES ME |
| 23:36.54 | Cide | this is almost funny |
| 23:37.02 | Malivil | Maybe their classification of auto-repeating actions is different than what oyu think |
| 23:37.07 | Malivil | Logic isn't always logical |
| 23:37.23 | Cide | no |
| 23:37.25 | Malivil | And that, my friends, is irony. |
| 23:37.42 | Cide | if that would be the case, the blizzard ui is using it incorrectly as well |
| 23:37.50 | Malivil | Ahh, well then |
| 23:37.55 | Malivil | I'm just talking out my butt then |
| 23:38.02 | Cide | seemingly so |
| 23:38.19 | Malivil | <.< >.> *goes back to working on his flexbar code* |
| 23:40.08 | JoshBorke | Malivil: you kinow FB2 is being worked on? |
| 23:40.31 | Malivil | Uhh, no i didnt |
| 23:40.51 | Malivil | Is that one gonna work with 2.0? |
| 23:41.33 | Cide | yes |
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| 23:41.59 | Malivil | Cool, well... as long as the coding is the same i should have a problem |
| 23:42.26 | JoshBorke | doubtful its the same |
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| 23:43.13 | Malivil | *shouldn't |
| 23:43.21 | Malivil | I mean the user-end programming |
| 23:43.24 | Malivil | the set up |
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| 23:55.41 | Maldivia | hmm, images in wowwiki... |
| 23:57.52 | Thardal | you have to go to www.wowwiki.com |
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| 23:58.00 | Thardal | apache is too hard to configure for them :D |
| 23:58.08 | Thardal | you have to go to www.wowwiki.com |
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| 23:58.52 | Maldivia | lol |
| 23:59.02 | Maldivia | that helped :) |
