| 00:00.07 | Maldivia | it's 5 piece sets |
| 00:01.35 | Thunder_Child | Druid: |
| 00:01.35 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.35 | Thunder_Child | Nuker: |
| 00:01.35 | Thunder_Child | (2) Set: Your harmful spells have a chance to restore up to 120 mana. |
| 00:01.35 | Thunder_Child | (4) Set: Reduces the cooldown on your Innervate ability by 48 sec. |
| 00:01.35 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.37 | Thunder_Child | Feral: |
| 00:01.39 | Thunder_Child | (2) Set: Your melee attacks in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form have a chance to generate 100 additional rage. |
| 00:01.42 | Thunder_Child | (2) Set: Your melee attacks in Cat Form have a chance to generate 20 additional energy. |
| 00:01.44 | Thunder_Child | (4) Set: Increases your armor by 1400 in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form. |
| 00:01.46 | Thunder_Child | (4) Set: Increases your strength by 30 in Cat Form. |
| 00:01.48 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.50 | Thunder_Child | Healer: |
| 00:01.52 | Thunder_Child | (2) Set: Your helpful spells have a chance to restore up to 120 mana. |
| 00:01.54 | Thunder_Child | (4) Set: Reduces the cooldown on your Nature's Swiftness by 24 sec. |
| 00:01.54 | Kirkburn|Vista | Spammer! |
| 00:01.56 | Thunder_Child | sry |
| 00:02.09 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, :'( <-- baby jesus |
| 00:02.39 | DrDre | Imp SND and Imp Backstab has changed places in talent tree's? is this true |
| 00:03.20 | Kirkburn|Vista | Servers up, apparently |
| 00:04.59 | Kaso | UI change hmm |
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| 00:05.24 | DrDre | what changed |
| 00:05.24 | Kaso | dunno, but one of my addons errorred |
| 00:05.33 | Thunder_Child | some tier 4 sets bounuses http://wowi.pastey.net/2876 |
| 00:05.35 | Kirkburn | Logging in now |
| 00:06.10 | Kirkburn | No errors here |
| 00:07.51 | SP|Sorren | ckknight, you around? |
| 00:08.10 | ckknight | yes. |
| 00:08.20 | SP|Sorren | FuBar_AmmoFu\AmmoFu.lua:58: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") |
| 00:08.30 | ckknight | :-( |
| 00:08.39 | ckknight | vanilla, PTR, or TBC? |
| 00:08.42 | SP|Sorren | it only happens when i first log into tbc |
| 00:09.07 | SP|Sorren | one sec |
| 00:09.29 | cladhaire | what indicates the width of a dropdown menu? |
| 00:09.34 | ckknight | fixing, SP|Sorren |
| 00:10.37 | SP|Sorren | it keeps erroring until i mouseover fubar |
| 00:10.42 | DrDre | ckk is speed demon |
| 00:10.48 | ckknight | fixed, SP|Sorren |
| 00:10.52 | SP|Sorren | :O |
| 00:12.40 | SP|Sorren | thx |
| 00:13.04 | Thunder_Child | cladhaire, a number |
| 00:13.13 | SP|Sorren | whoa |
| 00:13.19 | SP|Sorren | they broke the flare graphic |
| 00:13.25 | SP|Sorren | it looks like i melted the floor |
| 00:13.48 | Maldivia | wow, healer tier 4, 4-bonus looks nice |
| 00:14.56 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: your mom! |
| 00:15.00 | Maldivia | "Each time you cast Flash Heal, your next Greater Heal cast within 15 sec has its casting time reduced by 0.1, stacking up to 5 times." |
| 00:16.41 | Thunder_Child | that sucks |
| 00:17.05 | Kaso | not so sure, fits well with holy conc |
| 00:17.18 | Thunder_Child | flash heal has a bad mana/healed ration |
| 00:17.31 | Thunder_Child | heal has the best followed by Gheal |
| 00:17.40 | Thunder_Child | ratio* |
| 00:17.45 | JoshBorke | i think it's good |
| 00:18.09 | JoshBorke | because a lot of healers use Flash Heal, I think it's good |
| 00:18.12 | Maldivia | what good is mana/heal ratio, if your heals are too slow to keep the person up? |
| 00:18.22 | Thunder_Child | they arent if you do it right |
| 00:18.25 | Kaso | heal is worthless now, you might as well use GH1 and get the bonus from empowered healing |
| 00:18.54 | JoshBorke | i don't think heal is worthless now |
| 00:18.54 | Thunder_Child | in the patch they are droping the bouns from items when high lvl ppl cast low lvl spells |
| 00:18.58 | JoshBorke | the penalty isn't that large |
| 00:19.23 | Kaso | you cant use anyhting under heal 4 if you expect >1k heals |
| 00:19.30 | Anders2 | damage priest bonuses are nice :) |
| 00:19.46 | Kaso | whats with no flying mounts in shattrah |
| 00:19.58 | Neuro_Medivh | that's not where they are sold |
| 00:20.19 | Kaso | no i mean, you cant use flying mounts in shattrah |
| 00:20.22 | Maldivia | the mana/healed ration is so marginal now between heal and gheal |
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| 00:23.15 | Thunder_Child | i see you have the same problem the the 'n' on the end |
| 00:26.05 | Thunder_Child | why isnt gheal a 3.5 sec cast... |
| 00:26.42 | Kaso | cos they actually want people to use it? |
| 00:27.06 | Thunder_Child | well the tallent would driop it down to what it is now, and now it is reasonable |
| 00:27.14 | Thunder_Child | talent* |
| 00:27.19 | Kaso | im confused |
| 00:27.40 | Thunder_Child | it's 3.0 base casting speed |
| 00:28.00 | Thunder_Child | same as heal |
| 00:28.08 | Thunder_Child | lesser heal is 2.5 |
| 00:28.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Kaso> cos they actually want people to use it? |
| 00:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | tell that to druids :[ |
| 00:28.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtb 3.0 base cast speed for healing touch :/ |
| 00:28.54 | Thunder_Child | seems to me that reasonable gheal would then be 3.5 (and giving it 100% of the bonus vs. 85.71% of it) |
| 00:29.22 | Kaso | it was 3.5, people didnt use it, its now 3 seconds, people use it, |
| 00:29.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll swap with you :[ |
| 00:29.43 | Kaso | you get swiftmend, hussh |
| 00:29.43 | Thunder_Child | well if you went holy then it was 3.0 |
| 00:29.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd kill for a useful heal i could cast less than 3.5 sec |
| 00:29.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | no i don't |
| 00:30.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i like to do more than just raid :P |
| 00:30.59 | Thunder_Child | silly druid, raids are for you |
| 00:32.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | resto druids are a free hk for me |
| 00:32.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love seeing them sitting there in caster form |
| 00:32.49 | Kirkburn | Omg, Stormhammers! |
| 00:32.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | stormhammer? from tribes? |
| 00:33.14 | Kirkburn | Stormhammers, those things dwarves 'throw' |
| 00:34.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 00:34.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i was hoping for a tribes disclauncher |
| 00:34.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 00:34.42 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 00:36.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.filecloud.com/img/sized/00/00/09/00000949.jpg |
| 00:36.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | flying by on your epic mount and midairing people with that :[ |
| 00:37.11 | Thunder_Child | brings back memories |
| 00:37.19 | Thunder_Child | you know it's free mpw |
| 00:37.29 | Kaso | man tribes owned |
| 00:37.36 | Thunder_Child | now* |
| 00:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got it for free back in the day too :P |
| 00:37.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but uh ended up buying it at EB for 5 bucks later |
| 00:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used to be pretty good at tribes, i'm terrible now |
| 00:40.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kaso, if i remember it right, you're a goon, right? :O |
| 00:41.22 | Kaso | mhm |
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| 00:41.41 | Thunder_Child | slang useage of a goon? |
| 00:41.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | SomethingAwful forumite |
| 00:42.23 | Thunder_Child | no i mean was that referance to kaso the slang usage |
| 00:42.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | wha |
| 00:44.23 | Thunder_Child | ~def goon |
| 00:44.39 | Thunder_Child | ~define goon |
| 00:44.41 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 00:44.46 | Thunder_Child | ~dict goon |
| 00:45.30 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki goon |
| 00:45.48 | Thunder_Child | .... |
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| 00:46.32 | JoshBorke | WOOT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQrC_C6SexI&eurl= |
| 00:48.13 | JoshBorke | it's quite funny |
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| 00:54.38 | cladhaire | servers down? |
| 00:55.17 | Kirkburn | Tempest Keep is restarting in 8 mins |
| 00:55.50 | Kaso | to fix mount bug i hope |
| 00:55.55 | Kaso | its a pretty huge bug |
| 00:56.44 | Neuro_Medivh | what's the bug? |
| 00:57.18 | Kaso | basically random areas dont allow flying mounts |
| 00:57.32 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh |
| 00:57.37 | Neuro_Medivh | I could see that being a problem |
| 00:57.56 | Neuro_Medivh | "Yeah, I'll be there in just a seco.. Oh crap, I'm falling!" |
| 00:58.09 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:58.20 | Neuro_Medivh | so Soul Link got nerfed |
| 00:58.27 | Neuro_Medivh | well, "changed" |
| 00:58.36 | Kaso | howso |
| 00:58.59 | Neuro_Medivh | 20% instead of 30% dmg absorbed, but you do more dmg |
| 00:59.09 | Neuro_Medivh | 5% instead of 3% more dmg |
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| 01:04.11 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, what fun :P |
| 01:04.11 | Kaso | Holy fire resistance batman ! |
| 01:04.15 | Kaso | new items at the hard mode turnin |
| 01:04.25 | Kaso | all 50 + FR |
| 01:04.33 | zenzelezz | need plz for MC!!1 |
| 01:04.48 | Kaso | hello new Ragnaros |
| 01:04.55 | Kaso | or vaelstraze |
| 01:05.49 | ckknight | when will wdn update? I want to see the diff ;-) |
| 01:05.58 | zenzelezz | think you'll "need" more than 315 FR for BC bosses? |
| 01:06.08 | zenzelezz | or any resistance really |
| 01:06.14 | Maldivia | the new cap is 365 :) |
| 01:06.16 | Kirkburn | ckknight, more like "Where's Beladona? :(" |
| 01:07.12 | zenzelezz | resistance gear... the worst part about being a tank |
| 01:07.48 | Kaso | they also have like 40+ stam each ;> |
| 01:08.02 | zenzelezz | how much armor on the chest? |
| 01:08.06 | Kaso | http://kasoo.net/img/imgs/fireresist.png |
| 01:08.14 | Kaso | all i could get before servers went down |
| 01:08.40 | zenzelezz | what, only 755 armor on hands! ;) |
| 01:08.42 | zenzelezz | looks nice |
| 01:08.43 | Maldivia | ckknight: I can post you a diff file, if you want? |
| 01:09.20 | ckknight | that'd be pimp |
| 01:10.21 | Kirkburn | Tempest Keep is back |
| 01:10.43 | Kirkburn | sort of |
| 01:10.57 | Maldivia | ckknight: http://wowi.pastey.net/2878 |
| 01:11.12 | zenzelezz | as for my earlier question, /combatlog seems to work fine on live; although I'm currently unsure how often it writes to the file (didn't seem to happen immediately) |
| 01:11.51 | ckknight | I just like to read all the changes every patch, see if anything could apply to me or be useful |
| 01:12.48 | Maldivia | wee, chatType on is now a attribute, no more tab-complete tainting :) |
| 01:14.39 | Maldivia | suggestedGroup return added in the middle of quest GetQuestLogTitle return |
| 01:16.21 | Maldivia | UIDropDown changes, now they are dynamically expanded as needed |
| 01:17.28 | Kirkburn | Illidari Point: Return of the Charging Mobs |
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| 01:18.24 | Kirkburn | Charge me will you, bitch? No, my pet will charge YOU :D |
| 01:18.56 | [Liquidor] | Is Auto-decursing possible any longer and if so, any addons developed for it yet? |
| 01:19.17 | ckknight | nope, impossible |
| 01:19.19 | Xuerian | Nupe and nupe |
| 01:19.50 | [Liquidor] | Woah great |
| 01:21.02 | Tain | A curse on you! |
| 01:22.28 | [Liquidor] | Me? o.O |
| 01:22.28 | [Liquidor] | I'm just a fan of default ui |
| 01:22.28 | [Liquidor] | Always been. |
| 01:26.07 | Maldivia | WEEE |
| 01:26.17 | Maldivia | Mage pet frost nova is now called Freeze :) |
| 01:26.45 | zenzelezz | out of curiosity, does the name matter? |
| 01:26.51 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.55 | Maldivia | cast's the mage spell, and not the pet |
| 01:27.03 | Maldivia | now we can /cast Freeze |
| 01:27.13 | Maldivia | so yes, it DOES matter |
| 01:27.14 | zenzelezz | ah, I see what you mean |
| 01:27.25 | zenzelezz | <--- not a pet class player |
| 01:29.18 | Tem | Maldivia, *cheer* |
| 01:29.24 | Tem | if I ever return to my mage, that'll be awesome |
| 01:29.44 | Maldivia | Tem: invis is 5sec now |
| 01:29.54 | Tem | ... |
| 01:30.04 | Tem | so, still too long to be of any real use? |
| 01:30.07 | Tem | fantastic |
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| 01:32.10 | Tem | oh that's nice... |
| 01:32.13 | Tem | Rockbiter is bugged |
| 01:32.19 | Kaso | bugged? |
| 01:32.22 | Tem | oh, no it's not |
| 01:32.28 | Tem | I don't have talents |
| 01:32.38 | Guillotine | hmm. lots of changes with ui this patch |
| 01:32.45 | Guillotine | eCB all messed up |
| 01:32.55 | Tem | so the two-hander that's "in" my hands isn't really there |
| 01:33.31 | Guillotine | lol |
| 01:34.17 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 01:34.18 | Tain | Is the weapon in your hands? Or are your hands just the vehicle for the weapon? |
| 01:34.24 | ckknight | ooh: ChatEdit_CustomTabPressed |
| 01:35.42 | Kirkburn | He's holding it, but by the blade :P |
| 01:36.16 | Kaso | mounts are still badly bugged |
| 01:36.23 | ckknight | hrm: GetSuggestedGroupNum() |
| 01:36.25 | Maldivia | ohh... |
| 01:36.38 | Maldivia | SetPartyAssignment("maintank", name); |
| 01:36.42 | Maldivia | SetPartyAssignment("mainassist", name); |
| 01:37.03 | Tem | yes, but it doesn't appear to allow more than 1 |
| 01:37.09 | Tem | which is... oddly limiting |
| 01:37.10 | Maldivia | there can only be one MAIN |
| 01:37.19 | Tain | DAmnit stuck at number 515 in queue for about five minutes now. |
| 01:39.21 | Thunder_Child | beta? |
| 01:39.45 | Tain | Lord of the Rings Online beta. |
| 01:41.24 | Kirkburn | Ooh, yay they fixed quests |
| 01:41.25 | Maldivia | bugger, they should have added units for maintank and mainassist :| |
| 01:41.44 | Thunder_Child | damit, i want my key for that |
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| 01:41.59 | Kirkburn | lol, the UI changes also messed up Extended Quest Log |
| 01:42.09 | Kirkburn | I'm loving this |
| 01:43.26 | Kirkburn | Bah, I'll come back to it 2moro - I'm just glad I can finally do the HFP questline I've been missing :) |
| 01:44.04 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: ofcourse, they added an extra return value to a lot of quests (in the middle)( |
| 01:45.54 | Tain | I'm sure TBC hasn't been as bad as it seems, but I have only been able to log in twice since getting my key. |
| 01:46.05 | Kirkburn | Ah |
| 01:46.17 | Kirkburn | Tain, srsly? |
| 01:47.21 | Maldivia | they removed the long range nameplates again? |
| 01:47.21 | Tain | Yeah I haven't had as much opportunity to play, but every time I've tried I haven't been able to get in. |
| 01:47.23 | Kaso | is there any errorcatching addon for tbc that has stack traceback? |
| 01:47.26 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, the option is gone? |
| 01:47.31 | Kirkburn | That would make me saaad |
| 01:47.31 | Maldivia | yes |
| 01:47.39 | Kirkburn | *sniff* |
| 01:47.51 | Maldivia | and getting invalid cvar, whne trying to probe it directly |
| 01:48.31 | Kirkburn | nooo |
| 01:49.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 01:49.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | rollercoaster tycoon or whatever |
| 01:49.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine the rollercoaster bowling in garry's mod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0d2VjXM-To |
| 01:50.19 | Kirkburn | Been playing most of the night, Gmod 10 is incredible |
| 01:50.35 | Kirkburn | Hover balls are crazy |
| 01:51.02 | Kirkburn | Made a crate with a door that winches open and shut, made it hover and flew it around watching people create stuff |
| 01:51.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i uh |
| 01:51.25 | Kirkburn | Every so often someone would get in with me and I'd fly them around too =) |
| 01:51.31 | Tain | Logging in! I'm logging in! For the first time! |
| 01:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i made this: http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gmconstruct0017dv8.jpg |
| 01:51.56 | Kirkburn | Tain, surely you lie, this is your third time ;) |
| 01:52.22 | Kirkburn | hahaha |
| 01:53.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | you ever get into scripting in gmod 9 kirk? |
| 01:53.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, DOD maps are taking forever to load :/ |
| 01:54.27 | Thrae | Does Blizzard let you download the World of Warcraft client off the web? |
| 01:54.37 | Maldivia | yes |
| 01:54.54 | Thrae | Ah good, my CDs are like 1.3 and I think one of them is bad. |
| 01:55.20 | Tain | Nah Kirkburn I'm talking about Lord of the Rings Online. ;) |
| 01:55.34 | Kirkburn | aah |
| 01:57.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i give up on dod maps |
| 01:57.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was gonna make some nice posed screenshots and stuff |
| 01:57.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they're not loading :/ |
| 01:57.38 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 01:57.56 | Tain | Somehow I must resist the urge to create a Hobbit Burglar. |
| 01:58.16 | Kirkburn | Hell yeah! Smoking ban in public places in England from July 1st! |
| 01:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm in ur shire, stealin ur precious |
| 01:58.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | smoking bans are lame :/ |
| 01:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not a big fan of smoking, but smoking bans on private businesses by government is pretty lame |
| 01:59.13 | Kirkburn | *public* places ... |
| 01:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | like public parks and stuff? |
| 01:59.47 | Kirkburn | Fair enough, that covers restaurants |
| 01:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | what all does it cover? |
| 01:59.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | here, you can't even smoke in bars |
| 02:00.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | EXCUSE ME SIR I DON'T WANT LUNG CANCER WITH MY LIVER DISEASE |
| 02:00.18 | Kirkburn | Virtually all enclosed public places including offices, factories, pubs abd bars, but not outdoors or in private homes |
| 02:00.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | ew |
| 02:00.32 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 02:00.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | lame |
| 02:00.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's about the same in Georgia, it just doesn't make sense |
| 02:00.51 | Kirkburn | There is the difference that one side gets a choice, the other doesn't |
| 02:00.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | if the place is too smoky, don't go there :/ |
| 02:01.09 | Kirkburn | (when comparing alcohol v smoking) |
| 02:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it's hurting business the business will stop it or section things out |
| 02:01.33 | Kirkburn | That's fair enough, but in the UK *all* pubs smell of smoke :( |
| 02:02.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean i hate the smell of smoke and stuff, but i'm libertarian when it comes to stuff like that :P |
| 02:02.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | most places here don't enforce it though, especially bars |
| 02:02.45 | Kirkburn | Doesn't surprise me |
| 02:02.52 | blixem | Mr_Rabies2: is all of GA like that? I thought the goofy smoking laws were just up here in Athens. |
| 02:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's state-wide |
| 02:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i searched for smoking laws on wikipedia and got something about elemental drakes in D&D |
| 02:03.42 | Kirkburn | Ireland's had a similar ban for a while, Scotland just brought one in |
| 02:03.44 | blixem | the world is becoming too politically correct, imho. |
| 02:03.46 | Kirkburn | Not sure about Wales |
| 02:04.33 | Kirkburn | My top wikipedia result ... "Jewish law and history on smoking" |
| 02:04.42 | Kirkburn | Random |
| 02:05.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | (10) 'Public place' means an enclosed area to which the public is invited or in which the public is permitted, including, but not limited to, banks, bars, educational facilities, health care facilities, laundromats, public transportation facilities, reception areas, restaurants, retail food production and marketing establishments, retail service establishments, retail stores, shopping malls, sports arenas, theaters, and wa |
| 02:05.20 | cladhaire | ok |
| 02:05.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunno where that got cut off but yeah |
| 02:05.31 | cladhaire | does anyone have a basic nested dropdown example? |
| 02:05.34 | cladhaire | everythign i have is missing. |
| 02:05.47 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: "theaters, and w" |
| 02:05.48 | Kirkburn | Ah, England will, in fact, be last to have the ban. Wales, NI will get bans in April. |
| 02:06.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | theaters, and waiting rooms. |
| 02:06.31 | blixem | bars here should do like some of the ones in TX do. They call themselves 'private' establishments you must have a membership to join, and sell a 24 hour membership for $5 at the door. |
| 02:06.47 | blixem | aka, cover charge. |
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| 02:07.04 | blixem | s/should/will/ |
| 02:07.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of them just don't enforce it at all |
| 02:07.16 | blixem | true |
| 02:07.17 | Kirkburn | Interesting, Mr_Rabies2: ..." the government released the results of the public consultation, after Cancer Research UK demanded them under the Freedom of Information Act, which revealed that nearly 9 out of 10 respondents wanted a total ban"... |
| 02:07.32 | Kirkburn | (England ^) |
| 02:07.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | well you guys also have crazy gun laws so :P |
| 02:08.19 | Tem|NotHere | wait huh? |
| 02:08.22 | Tem|NotHere | it kept my nick? |
| 02:08.25 | Tem|NotHere | weird! |
| 02:08.33 | Kirkburn | Omg, it's December! |
| 02:08.41 | Tem | not yet, hoe |
| 02:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe for you in backwards-land |
| 02:09.05 | Tem | norgs live in tomorrow |
| 02:09.14 | Tem | so it's december there |
| 02:09.25 | Kirkburn | yarr |
| 02:09.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh my DoD wasn't updated apparently |
| 02:10.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | even though steam didn't say it needed updating |
| 02:10.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 02:10.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | GAAAABE :argh: |
| 02:13.06 | Kirkburn | Look, you know he's sitting at home eating a burger and playing Gmod, far more fun than working on HL3 :P |
| 02:14.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Kirkburn> Look, you know he's sitting at home eating horses marinated in money |
| 02:14.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | fixed |
| 02:14.57 | Kirkburn | \o/ |
| 02:15.04 | Kirkburn | Sir, you go too far! |
| 02:15.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah i kid i kid |
| 02:15.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not a gabe-hater |
| 02:15.15 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 02:15.28 | Kirkburn | You were s'posed to say "Nay, I go not far enough!" |
| 02:15.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd hug him like a teddy bear if i met him |
| 02:15.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | then pinch his ass just to say i did |
| 02:16.30 | Kirkburn | One could dine out on that for months |
| 02:16.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | sho'nuff |
| 02:17.00 | Kirkburn | "these fingers pinched Gabe Newell's ass, treat them with dignity, and pay for my dinner!" |
| 02:17.26 | Guillotine | is anybody having a problem in beta where modifiers shift and ctrl aren't working? |
| 02:17.30 | Malivil | "Who's Gabe Newell" "BLASPHEMER! KILL HIM" |
| 02:18.04 | Malivil | Guillotine: Just straight up not working, or with other modifiers IE: Alt-Shift-# |
| 02:18.19 | Guillotine | according to this person its just plain not working |
| 02:18.27 | Malivil | Haven't heard that, no |
| 02:18.40 | Guillotine | I'm guessing he has something else bound to that |
| 02:18.44 | Guillotine | and its eating the modifiers |
| 02:18.50 | Malivil | probably |
| 02:18.53 | Kirkburn | There's alreayd been a Gmod update: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news&id=853 |
| 02:19.38 | Thunder_Child | Read http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50836046&pageNo=2&sid=1#31 and 4 posts down for some interesting information from slouken about said modifires |
| 02:20.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've already gotten 3 updates in the last 2 days kirk |
| 02:20.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 02:20.09 | Kirkburn | If it doesn't mention Gabe's ass, I'm not looking *stern look* |
| 02:20.28 | Kirkburn | *stern look not at the thread, of course* |
| 02:20.48 | Malivil | Thunder_Child: That's cool |
| 02:20.49 | Kirkburn | Mr. Newman is busy |
| 02:21.13 | Thunder_Child | ty Malivil, blue tracker ftw! |
| 02:21.15 | Tain | hah hah damn I was in queue for 45 minutes, online for 15, and server down. Poor games in their first stress test. |
| 02:21.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://jontintinjordan.typepad.com/photos/portraits/gabe_newell.jpg |
| 02:21.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | look at that sexy hunk of a man |
| 02:21.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and by hunk i mean planet |
| 02:21.51 | Malivil | ... |
| 02:22.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't ellipses me :[ |
| 02:23.04 | Malivil | Too late |
| 02:23.10 | Kirkburn | =P |
| 02:23.15 | Malivil | =P |
| 02:24.04 | Tain | Are people in TBC right now? |
| 02:25.00 | Tuller | I was a little bit ago |
| 02:26.29 | Tuller | going to assume outland exploded :) |
| 02:27.04 | Malivil | Very feasible actually |
| 02:27.21 | cladhaire | i'm in the deeprun tram =) |
| 02:27.24 | cladhaire | its my sekret |
| 02:27.34 | Malivil | oh noes |
| 02:28.44 | Thunder_Child | Bah! "You folks do now that overall, CC in BGs and Arenas is getting nerfed, right? By that, I mean the duration of CCs will be decreased in PvP instances. |
| 02:28.44 | Thunder_Child | " |
| 02:28.55 | Tain | I only get Disconnected from server |
| 02:28.58 | Tain | Over and over |
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| 02:34.58 | Mr_Rabies | http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4734/dodkalt0001ca9.jpg |
| 02:35.03 | Guillotine | alright hes right, shift and ctrl just aren't working in macros |
| 02:35.45 | SP|Sorren | Tain: did you try to connect to the test server? |
| 02:37.52 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies funky!! |
| 02:37.54 | Tain | I tried. |
| 02:37.56 | Tain | I failed. |
| 02:38.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | that sign says "Jacques' Butchery: meat and fruit of the sea" |
| 02:39.04 | cogwheel | anyone have the registry entries that BC installs? my addon kit won't work 'cause I reinstalled my OS... (and no... starting BC doesn't recreate them :( ) |
| 02:40.10 | Kirkburn | I am sad to say, I'm an incompentent Warlock |
| 02:40.29 | Thunder_Child | will running live --> beta work? |
| 02:40.31 | Kirkburn | For the year I had/have Soul Link, I never actually *read* the tooltip |
| 02:40.39 | Kirkburn | And thus never used it |
| 02:41.03 | Kirkburn | I also never fear, and don't stock up on soul shards |
| 02:41.15 | Kirkburn | Or use half my spells :( |
| 02:41.35 | Zicon | I think I used about half my spells in a single combat earlier. :P |
| 02:41.51 | Kirkburn | I'm a hunter in a demon-lover's body |
| 02:42.24 | Zicon | So ... you send in your demon, turn on wand, and leave the computer? :P |
| 02:42.26 | Kirkburn | It must be the skirts that attracted me to it |
| 02:42.38 | Kirkburn | Omg, are you watching me? |
| 02:42.49 | Thunder_Child | Zicon, dont answer that |
| 02:43.07 | Zicon | Maybe. Would you like me to watch you? >:) |
| 02:43.15 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, you want me all to yourself, eh? |
| 02:43.44 | Thunder_Child | how do you fit through your doors at home with such an ego? |
| 02:43.51 | Kirkburn | Do I feel comfortable continuing this conversation now that I'm going to bed? |
| 02:43.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Zicon> So ... you send in your demon, turn on wand, and leave the computer? :P |
| 02:43.52 | Thunder_Child | if i wanted you, i would have you |
| 02:43.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do that on my lock a lot of the time :x |
| 02:44.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | except instead of wand i just dot them up |
| 02:44.43 | Corrodias | Guillotine: i think the thread Thunder_Child linked to should satisfactorally explain the (apparently unintentional) change to modifier handling and the fact that it's being changed to something much more (if not exactly) like the old way |
| 02:45.16 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, i wasnted to show you that but you were mush afk |
| 02:45.22 | Thunder_Child | err..much* |
| 02:45.29 | Thunder_Child | wanted* |
| 02:45.35 | Corrodias | my character is Melnayo, so be assured i've seen it |
| 02:46.22 | Thunder_Child | ah, well i never read it, just the blues |
| 02:47.21 | Neuro_Medivh | Guillotine, shift might not be working properly, but ctrl seems to work just fine in macros |
| 02:51.32 | Guillotine | yup, got that :) ty |
| 02:52.51 | cogwheel | Can someone with windows and the BC beta do me a huge favor? /beg |
| 02:52.58 | Guillotine | sure |
| 02:53.11 | cogwheel | Guillotine: do you know how to use regedit? |
| 02:53.14 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:53.33 | Guillotine | you need the registry settings for bc beta? |
| 02:53.35 | cogwheel | can you get me the registry entries for TBC? my ui extractor won't work and running BC won't recreate them |
| 02:53.37 | cogwheel | yep |
| 02:54.19 | Guillotine | btw, WoW works without reg settings |
| 02:54.21 | Maldivia | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Blizzard Entertainment\Burning Crusade Closed Beta |
| 02:54.37 | cogwheel | yep it does, but the UI extractor uses them to find WoW |
| 02:54.42 | Maldivia | REG_SZ: InstallPath = "C:\Program....." |
| 02:54.59 | Guillotine | cogwheel: want me to just export them and email it to you? |
| 02:55.14 | Guillotine | or its real easy |
| 02:55.16 | cogwheel | Guillotine: Maldivia got it... thanks :) |
| 02:55.28 | Guillotine | ok :) |
| 02:56.00 | cogwheel | success... tx, Maldivia |
| 02:56.09 | cogwheel | purl, seen mikk |
| 02:56.39 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16d 16h 5m 19s ago, saying: 'the way to do it now is to hook all the chatframes'. |
| 02:56.58 | cogwheel | hmm... guess i shouldn't hold my breath :| |
| 02:57.59 | Kirkburn | cogwheel, go on the wiki and say something on his user page :) |
| 02:58.05 | cogwheel | heh |
| 02:58.49 | Kirkburn | G'night all |
| 03:00.04 | Guillotine | ~roulette |
| 03:00.15 | purl | ACTION watches guillotine pull the trigger: Click! |
| 03:01.52 | ckknight | ~roulette |
| 03:01.53 | purl | ACTION watches ckknight pull the trigger: Click! |
| 03:02.55 | Nom- | ~roulette |
| 03:02.57 | purl | ACTION watches nom- pull the trigger: Click! |
| 03:03.04 | Nom- | purl's turn! |
| 03:03.23 | MentalPower | watch me die |
| 03:03.27 | MentalPower | ~roulette |
| 03:03.28 | purl | ACTION watches mentalpower pull the trigger: Click! |
| 03:03.34 | MentalPower | bah |
| 03:04.02 | Superman | ~roulette |
| 03:04.04 | purl | ACTION watches superman pull the trigger: Click! |
| 03:04.17 | Nom- | awww |
| 03:04.23 | cogwheel | ~roulette |
| 03:04.24 | purl | ACTION watches cogwheel pull the trigger: Click! |
| 03:04.43 | Thunder_Child | ~roulette |
| 03:04.45 | purl | ACTION watches thunder_child pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 03:04.50 | Thunder_Child | as usual |
| 03:05.01 | cogwheel | ~literal roulette |
| 03:05.02 | purl | "roulette" is "<action> watches $who pull the trigger: ( Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | BANG!)" |
| 03:07.15 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, hehe. |
| 03:08.00 | Thunder_Child | the first time i ever joined this channel that was going on, i did it and BANG! |
| 03:08.21 | Thunder_Child | X ammount of time later...still going strong |
| 03:10.14 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 03:10.19 | ckknight | always a scapegoat somewhere |
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| 03:14.25 | [Liquidor] | Does my character on the PTR affect my realm character? |
| 03:14.52 | Corrodias | not at all |
| 03:15.08 | Corrodias | you can shard your epicz and make an ass of yourself and nobody will ever know once PTR dies |
| 03:15.41 | Corrodias | and now, i'm [away] for the drinkings! |
| 03:16.56 | cogwheel | And you can send all your alts' money to your main (and perhaps collect loans from guildies), transfer your main to the PTR a few times and have an ass load of money ;) |
| 03:17.38 | Tain | Can't log into TBC, can't log into LOTR, I'm doomed to play on live servers? I can't do that. |
| 03:19.04 | Thunder_Child | oh noes Tain, you life as we know it is over |
| 03:19.10 | Thunder_Child | s/you/your/ |
| 03:19.57 | cogwheel | Can anyone think of anything missing from http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5300-Lua_5.1.1_WoW.html ? |
| 03:21.17 | Thunder_Child | the answers to everything? |
| 03:21.41 | Thunder_Child | other than that looks good |
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| 03:23.29 | Cairenn | Xuerian: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6347-XLoot.html |
| 03:23.55 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Woo ^_^ Thanky. |
| 03:24.00 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 03:25.29 | cogwheel | Xuerian: that's sexy |
| 03:25.58 | Xuerian | cogwheel: heh. Now to get the plugins up :P |
| 03:27.17 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: fixed... See the bottom of the description... |
| 03:28.54 | Cairenn | Xuerian: you see where I meant, for uploading the plugins, yes? |
| 03:29.16 | Xuerian | Yeah, I'm doing it right now, I'm just slow ^_^. Thanks for checking. |
| 03:29.21 | Cairenn | np |
| 03:29.37 | Cairenn | they'll show up right on that same page as long as you upload them that way |
| 03:29.47 | Xuerian | Excellent. |
| 03:31.04 | Cairenn | (they'll also show up separately in the PlugIn download category) |
| 03:31.55 | Xuerian | Sounds good :D |
| 03:34.03 | Thunder_Child | lolz cogwheel |
| 03:34.14 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 03:34.16 | MentalPower | cogwheel: debugstack() is missing |
| 03:34.16 | Thunder_Child | i wonder who many will get that |
| 03:34.19 | Thunder_Child | how* |
| 03:35.22 | cogwheel | thanks, mp |
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| 03:35.49 | MentalPower | was running thru my WoW Functions.lua file and that one popped at me |
| 03:36.12 | MentalPower | yes, I know I should use WoWBench, but I'm lazy |
| 03:36.45 | cogwheel | can i see the function you wrote? it'll help me implement a C version... |
| 03:37.08 | MentalPower | its a simple deferral to debug.traceback() |
| 03:37.15 | cogwheel | heh... that works |
| 03:37.46 | MentalPower | but traceback doesn't support the number of functions on the top/bottom param |
| 03:38.12 | cogwheel | that shouldn't be too hard... |
| 03:38.13 | MentalPower | function debugstack(level) return debug.traceback("", level) end <---Poor man's implementation |
| 03:41.02 | Malivil | night all |
| 03:41.08 | Cairenn | night Malivil-Sleep |
| 03:41.57 | MentalPower | night Malivil-Sleep |
| 03:42.19 | Tain | Goodnight John-Boy |
| 03:51.59 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Mod submission needs a preview text button T.T |
| 03:52.24 | Xuerian | Otherwise it's blissful ^_^ |
| 03:52.29 | Cairenn | yeah, but editing text doesn't go through moderation queue |
| 03:52.41 | Xuerian | Oo. Excellent. |
| 03:52.41 | Cairenn | just go in and make the changes |
| 03:52.45 | Cairenn | ditto screenshots |
| 03:52.56 | Cairenn | only actual *file* changes get sent back to queue |
| 03:53.07 | Xuerian | Saves you a bit of moderation, eh? :p |
| 03:53.22 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 03:54.14 | Cairenn | and frankly, if the mod *file* is legit, and the text was appropriate the first time we eyeballed it, the chances of an author going in and changing the text to something stupid later is slim |
| 03:55.30 | Xuerian | True o.0; |
| 03:55.31 | Cairenn | those that don't meet those criteria the first time round ... don't get approved on our site |
| 03:56.07 | Kaso | how often do things get rejected, and what sort of reasons do they get rejected for |
| 03:56.35 | Cairenn | not that often on our site, in the overall scheme of things |
| 03:57.33 | Cairenn | some have been because they have had no real purpose other than pure annoyance to other players |
| 03:57.55 | Cairenn | some because they go against Blizzard policy |
| 03:58.28 | Kaso | interesting |
| 03:58.33 | Cairenn | there really haven't been many though |
| 03:59.18 | Cairenn | I can think of maybe 1/2 dozen or so max in the time we've been running ... discounting a bunch we denied since our Beta Key give away |
| 03:59.40 | Kaso | oh, so few? thats suprising |
| 04:00.14 | Cairenn | one was the infamous "nude" one ... that one got laughed at and deleted out of hand |
| 04:00.34 | Cairenn | not bloody likely we'd allow that on our site |
| 04:00.42 | MentalPower | hehe, theres always a tard |
| 04:01.20 | Kaso | haha |
| 04:01.39 | Gngsk | omg, the nude mod owns so hard though! |
| 04:01.47 | Xuerian | Pun much? |
| 04:02.12 | Cairenn | we have a rep in the community that we've built up over a number of years, we've got users (and authors) now that have carried over from the day we opened the door on EQI |
| 04:02.22 | Cairenn | folks know that we are "family friendly" |
| 04:02.37 | Cairenn | for lack of a better way of saying it |
| 04:03.01 | Gngsk | rated E for Everyone! |
| 04:03.03 | Xuerian | In addition to being just plain author friendly :3 |
| 04:03.18 | Cairenn | we try our best |
| 04:03.32 | Cairenn | may not always succeed, but we try |
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| 04:06.19 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:06.57 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
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| 04:22.51 | Thunder_Child | so thats how they are going to do it "The normally scheduled weekly maintenance on Tuesday, December 5 is being extended to apply a content patch. All realms will be down for extended realm maintenance from 1:00 AM PST until approximately 1:00 PM PST that day." |
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| 04:28.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:30.56 | Neuro_Medivh | Remember, remember, the fifth of December, the day all the addons got shot. I know there were reasons, but the players cried "Treason!" and then QQed quite a lot. |
| 04:31.25 | Thunder_Child | nice |
| 04:31.39 | Neuro_Medivh | I could do better if i thought about it more, but, eh |
| 04:36.01 | cogwheel | Cairenn: you should package up all the 2.0 ready mods into one huge zip file and make a torrent for them... that way we won't have to worry about patch day woes and not being able to access any of the mod sites =D |
| 04:36.22 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:36.36 | Cairenn | cogwheel: when was the last time you weren't able to get to wowi during a patch, hmmm? |
| 04:36.55 | cogwheel | heh... i have a feeling Neuro_Medivh's prophecy is just the beginning... |
| 04:37.02 | Thunder_Child | when he didnt log on |
| 04:37.36 | cogwheel | especially when everyone gets word that wowi already has a huge swath of 2.0-ready addons... |
| 04:37.58 | Thunder_Child | yea, so for the 20% of them out there that have NO idead of the patch tuesday will be interesting |
| 04:38.34 | Thrae | Does 2.0 block you from even trying to load an addon with a 1.x TOC? |
| 04:38.34 | nymbia | yeah, i talked to a friend today who had no idea what 2.0 was, much less that it was tuesday. |
| 04:38.44 | Neuro_Medivh | Probably |
| 04:38.45 | nymbia | Thrae: yes |
| 04:38.45 | Cairenn | Thrae: yes |
| 04:38.51 | Thrae | That's a relief. |
| 04:39.15 | ckknight | it says "Incompatible" |
| 04:39.18 | ckknight | and refuses to load |
| 04:39.18 | nymbia | people will just change all their tocs, assuming it'll make things work ;) |
| 04:39.19 | cogwheel | I'm just going to stay away from the forums for the rest of the year. |
| 04:39.27 | cogwheel | ... no... really... |
| 04:39.30 | ckknight | even with load out-of-date addons |
| 04:39.30 | Cairenn | nymbia: unfortunately, too true |
| 04:40.08 | ckknight | Cairenn, but many people don't know what a TOC is and think that addons are executable code. |
| 04:40.10 | Thunder_Child | someone ask them to set up a special "OMG my addons are broken forum"...that can be deleted at will |
| 04:40.15 | ckknight | i.e. users |
| 04:40.16 | Neuro_Medivh | I think I'll make a post with the title "YES, ALL YOUR ADDONS ARE NOW BROKEN. GO GET NEW ONES" just for Dec 5th |
| 04:40.32 | cogwheel | I wonder how long it'll take for the wow forums to crash on tuesday... |
| 04:40.34 | Neuro_Medivh | and bump it every 5 minutes that day |
| 04:40.45 | Cairenn | I'll have all my standard threads up, as always |
| 04:40.46 | nymbia | Neuro_Medivh: good idea, i think. |
| 04:41.11 | Neuro_Medivh | Because you KNOW there will be posts on Tuesday |
| 04:41.23 | Neuro_Medivh | that go "Hey, how come my Decursive is giving me errors?" |
| 04:41.24 | Thunder_Child | 1000's of them |
| 04:41.47 | ckknight | Cairenn, I'm planning on updating all my mods as well as putting up Cartographer and such on Monday. When's WoWI going into the "crunch phase" when it's getting swamped with requests? |
| 04:41.52 | Neuro_Medivh | "Wait, Decursive doesn't work anymore???? Wtf, they just spring this on us with no warning????" |
| 04:42.12 | nymbia | Y R MY DECURZIV BROK THANKS 4 LETTUCE GNOMES BLIZ |
| 04:42.21 | Cairenn | if you update on monday you shouldn't have any problems |
| 04:42.22 | zenzelezz | "is Onyxia DBing more?" |
| 04:42.36 | ckknight | Cairenn, sounds good. |
| 04:42.38 | Neuro_Medivh | The answer to that is always "Yes" |
| 04:42.42 | nymbia | zenzelezz: always. |
| 04:42.49 | Cairenn | actually, thinking about it ... |
| 04:42.53 | Cairenn | Dolby-wowi: ping? |
| 04:43.00 | ckknight | theoretically, this should be the least bugfree release I've put up |
| 04:43.10 | ckknight | seeing as it's been in testing for so long without going up on WoWI |
| 04:43.14 | ckknight | which has its ups and downs |
| 04:43.25 | Cairenn | the *least* bugfree? that's worriesome |
| 04:43.38 | ckknight | least buggy. |
| 04:43.46 | ckknight | or most bugfree |
| 04:43.53 | ckknight | or better: most solid |
| 04:44.01 | ckknight | mmm... getting hungry now |
| 04:44.04 | Cairenn | better |
| 04:44.05 | ckknight | solids... |
| 04:44.19 | Xuerian | That wasn't what came into my mind =| |
| 04:47.25 | Cairenn | one thing guys ... when you do update for 2.0, update your "live" versions, not the ones you've currently got residing in the beta section |
| 04:48.18 | Cairenn | we're going to be poofing that section |
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| 04:56.14 | ckknight | yea, the TBC section's gonna get wiped. |
| 04:56.55 | Thunder_Child | not simply merged? |
| 04:57.42 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: can't very well do that, folks have 2 versions up - live & beta |
| 04:58.14 | Thunder_Child | well anything from beta overwrites on tuesday |
| 04:58.26 | MentalPower | I wound't like that at all |
| 04:58.35 | Cairenn | nope, we won't do that |
| 04:58.51 | Cairenn | it's the authors choice and decision |
| 04:59.02 | Cairenn | they may not feel their mod is *ready* to move out of the beta section |
| 04:59.37 | Thunder_Child | isnt there a beat and a 2.0 beta? |
| 04:59.40 | Thunder_Child | beta* |
| 04:59.50 | Cairenn | and then there's a 2.0 beta |
| 04:59.55 | ckknight | there's 3 versions of WoW now: vanilla, PTR, and TBC |
| 05:00.07 | ckknight | vanilla is 1.12, PTR is 2.0.1, TBC is 2.0.2 |
| 05:00.07 | Thunder_Child | on wowi though? |
| 05:00.18 | Cairenn | it's a temp section purely for 2.0 stuff because of how sweeping the changes are |
| 05:00.22 | ckknight | WoWI just recognizes vanilla and 2.0+ |
| 05:00.25 | Neuro_Medivh | I wouldn't mind some Mint Chocolate Chip flavor, myself |
| 05:00.27 | ckknight | which is fine. |
| 05:00.35 | ckknight | oh man, I want some mint chocolate chip |
| 05:00.44 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php? |
| 05:01.52 | Thunder_Child | ok, well your call, your site |
| 05:05.23 | Thunder_Child | what happens to all of the pre 2.0.1 mods? |
| 05:06.07 | Cairenn | they get updated by the authors or they don't, same as always |
| 05:06.22 | Cairenn | after a period of time, any not updated get moved to the outdated section |
| 05:07.41 | Neuro_Medivh | you should depreciate all addons next tuesday |
| 05:07.48 | ckknight | I disagree. |
| 05:07.57 | Neuro_Medivh | why not? They won't run |
| 05:08.03 | Thunder_Child | i think you should put them in a special catagory though |
| 05:08.05 | ckknight | mine will, I'm updating on Monday |
| 05:08.06 | zenzelezz | they may run |
| 05:08.51 | Cairenn | Neuro_Medivh: nope, no way, not going to move them all to the outdated category on tuesday and then have to sit there and move them all back as they get updated |
| 05:08.55 | Thunder_Child | and have the authors enable a "switch to change from pre 2.0.1 to post |
| 05:09.06 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, no way to automate it, I see |
| 05:09.33 | Neuro_Medivh | Black Tuesday, I name it |
| 05:09.56 | ckknight | why not Gray Tuesday? |
| 05:09.59 | ckknight | or Red Tuesday? |
| 05:10.08 | ckknight | or Mauve Tuesday? |
| 05:10.19 | Neuro_Medivh | because Black has connotations of doom and despair |
| 05:10.21 | Cairenn | but that was why I went through a few weeks back and moved any that hadn't been updated for the last couple patches |
| 05:10.54 | Neuro_Medivh | and that day will be painful for all, no matter your opinion |
| 05:11.25 | Thunder_Child | i like itm will let me clean out mu UI folder |
| 05:11.27 | Thunder_Child | it* |
| 05:11.37 | Neuro_Medivh | nod |
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| 05:12.36 | Thunder_Child | not that it's to bad, because i keep it fairly tidy |
| 05:12.58 | Thunder_Child | but it will give me a chance .... or rather it will "force" me to look at all of the new mods |
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| 05:14.04 | ckknight | I'm gonna call it Mauve Tuesday |
| 05:14.28 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, when you look at the new submissions do you look at them for potential uses for your own UI or just to pass them through? |
| 05:14.33 | zenzelezz | I'm going to call it Tuesday |
| 05:14.52 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: both |
| 05:15.24 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: I try a lot (most) of them out (discounting "compilations") |
| 05:15.35 | Mr_Rabies | http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2927/gmconstruct0022tt9.jpg stretchyragdoll is stretchyyyy |
| 05:15.48 | ckknight | and sometimes she lets mine through |
| 05:15.55 | ckknight | and it turns out I had a syntax error in it |
| 05:15.58 | ckknight | and update again |
| 05:16.05 | ckknight | good times. |
| 05:16.27 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:16.28 | Thunder_Child | maybe we should start asking you then Cairenn, for the best of the best |
| 05:16.41 | ckknight | I know Cairenn likes FuBar |
| 05:16.48 | ckknight | and if she doesn't, my heart will be broken |
| 05:17.10 | Thunder_Child | and i know she likes her husband, but i'm not quite sure that helps |
| 05:17.45 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: I won't answer you, since I don't think there is any such thing |
| 05:18.02 | Guillotine | ya |
| 05:18.06 | Guillotine | (by that she means mine are the best) |
| 05:18.15 | Thunder_Child | best of the best, or a likeable husbad? |
| 05:18.45 | Guillotine | huh? |
| 05:18.50 | Guillotine | whos talking about husbands? |
| 05:19.51 | Cairenn | best of the best |
| 05:19.58 | Cairenn | since "best" is subjective |
| 05:20.16 | Thunder_Child | well we could just ask for a list of what you use... |
| 05:20.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:20.49 | Neuro_Medivh | the best varies from person to person |
| 05:20.54 | Cairenn | someone else want to field that one? you've all heard it enough |
| 05:21.35 | Neuro_Medivh | for example, Discord Action Bars. Some people claim they are the best because they are so configurable, others claim they suck because they are so complex. |
| 05:21.50 | Guillotine | its really quite simple to tell which are the best |
| 05:21.54 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: I won't say which mods I use as my "standards", because I don't want anyone to feel like I play favorites at all |
| 05:21.56 | Guillotine | if the author says "Guillotine" its the best |
| 05:21.58 | Guillotine | otherwise, its not |
| 05:22.00 | Guillotine | end of story |
| 05:22.03 | Neuro_Medivh | Another example: MazzleUI. According to Mazzle, his is the best compilation of mods, period |
| 05:22.11 | MentalPower | no comment... |
| 05:22.30 | Neuro_Medivh | And they are great... as long as you don't mind playing exactly how Mazzle thinks you should |
| 05:23.16 | Cairenn | different strokes for different folks, that's why we've got mods in the first place |
| 05:23.50 | Thunder_Child | damit, someone hack Cairenn's 'puter to see what she has |
| 05:23.56 | Cairenn | what's best for "me" isn't necessarily what's best for "you" isn't necessarily best for "him" |
| 05:24.33 | zenzelezz | What!? You mean my SuperUberWarriorUI v1.3 isn't the ultimate for priests!? |
| 05:24.40 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:24.50 | Neuro_Medivh | "Cause it takes... Diff'rent Strokes, it takes... Diff'rent Strokes, it takes.. Diff'rent Strokes to move the wooooorrrlllld!! mmmm!!!!" |
| 05:26.11 | Guillotine | anyone know what addon uses the "GlobalComm" channel? |
| 05:26.24 | Thunder_Child | geriatric school |
| 05:28.26 | ckknight | Guillotine, Telepathy, afaik. |
| 05:28.37 | Guillotine | ahh |
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| 05:30.21 | Grem | Is there a limit to how large a savedvariable file can be? Im building an Auctioneer.lua file, and it's already several megs |
| 05:30.52 | ckknight | a gigaquad. |
| 05:31.48 | Thunder_Child | exoquad |
| 05:31.48 | Grem | Yeah, well im sure the file can be large, but could WoW load a file that was absolutely enormous? Like 200 meg? |
| 05:32.06 | ckknight | I wouldn't want to use an addon that made its SV 200 megs. |
| 05:32.15 | Grem | Well I plan on inflating auctioneer =) |
| 05:32.21 | Grem | the auctioneer savedvariables |
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| 05:32.41 | Grem | Id expect it to be 100+ meg after a few weeks of playing multiple servers to collect data |
| 05:32.54 | Guillotine | thats like... 10 minute load time |
| 05:33.05 | Grem | I see |
| 05:33.19 | Thunder_Child | depends on your system |
| 05:33.24 | Thunder_Child | i would tink |
| 05:33.28 | Thunder_Child | err..think |
| 05:33.46 | Grem | Does anyone know any tools out there that can convert savedvariables to SQL? |
| 05:36.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | is anyone a druid on the beta servers? |
| 05:36.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd like to know what the tooltips for mangle(bear) and mangle (cat) say in the latest push :x |
| 05:38.48 | Antiar1 | Rogue upgrades. O_O |
| 05:41.03 | MentalPower | Grem: theres a limit to how big savedvariables can be |
| 05:41.22 | Grem | I see MentalPower |
| 05:42.07 | MentalPower | http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/1733 |
| 05:42.34 | MentalPower | its a limitation in the constants table when a file is parsed |
| 05:43.06 | MentalPower | you can get away with it by splitting up the different variables into separate do ... end blocks |
| 05:43.57 | MentalPower | or if the file is really big, you can split the tables up into separate constructors based on key and then enclose those separate constructors in do ... end blocks |
| 05:44.05 | MentalPower | note that this is a one time process |
| 05:44.17 | Grem | I see |
| 05:44.31 | MentalPower | once the file is written back by WoW it won't have the do ... end block, so it will fail to load the file |
| 05:45.40 | Grem | What's the limit? Like 20 meg? |
| 05:47.01 | MentalPower | its a certain number of "constants" |
| 05:47.13 | Grem | ahh |
| 05:47.19 | MentalPower | a constant is defined as a discrete value in Lua |
| 05:47.34 | MentalPower | so a = "b" is two constants |
| 05:47.42 | Grem | Hmm |
| 05:47.50 | Grem | any idea on the number of constants allowed? |
| 05:48.26 | MentalPower | 2^18-1 |
| 05:48.31 | Grem | Okay |
| 05:48.46 | Thunder_Child | ah, good old powers of 2 |
| 05:48.51 | MentalPower | yup |
| 05:48.51 | Grem | So that's constants loaded into LUA |
| 05:49.04 | MentalPower | Lua, yes |
| 05:49.18 | MentalPower | once the table is parsed the limitation goes away |
| 05:49.22 | Grem | So if I create a table in LUA with 2^18+1 entries, it will crash? |
| 05:49.31 | MentalPower | its a limitation in the file tokenizer |
| 05:49.39 | MentalPower | depends on how you construct it |
| 05:49.43 | Grem | Now im not specifically talking about savedvariables |
| 05:49.55 | Grem | Im talking about if you created an addon that initializes huge tables |
| 05:50.06 | Grem | Like if I hard coded all the saved variables |
| 05:50.15 | Grem | In seperate files |
| 05:50.20 | MentalPower | depends on how you construct the tables |
| 05:50.39 | MentalPower | if you have one massive table in the file, then you're liable to exceed the limitation |
| 05:50.43 | Grem | myTable[2^18] = "rusty sword" |
| 05:51.15 | Grem | hmm |
| 05:51.20 | MentalPower | but since the limitation is per block, then you can get away with it |
| 05:51.25 | Grem | per block? |
| 05:51.33 | MentalPower | a file is a block |
| 05:51.36 | MentalPower | so is a function |
| 05:51.37 | Grem | ahh |
| 05:51.40 | Grem | so if I put them in different files |
| 05:51.45 | MentalPower | and a do...end block |
| 05:51.52 | MentalPower | you'd be fine |
| 05:51.59 | Grem | Nice, okay |
| 05:52.01 | Grem | Thanks for the tip |
| 05:52.07 | MentalPower | np |
| 05:52.19 | Grem | I think it would be cool to make a central auctioneer database |
| 05:52.25 | Grem | Where people could download the latest server economies |
| 05:52.45 | MentalPower | note that auctioneer is the only know addon to have reached the constants limit in the wild |
| 05:52.49 | Grem | lol |
| 05:53.03 | MentalPower | auction data is severely time-critical |
| 05:53.12 | Grem | It would have to be updated daily |
| 05:53.12 | MentalPower | unless you only want historical data |
| 05:53.25 | Grem | Are there any sites out there that have any form of auctioneer data? |
| 05:53.35 | MentalPower | if you want to do AH arbitrage you'd need almost hourly updates |
| 05:53.46 | Grem | That's insane, hourly updates?? =/ |
| 05:53.47 | MentalPower | theres a few, search our forums |
| 05:54.07 | Grem | daily updates is enough data to work from, id think |
| 05:54.45 | MentalPower | like I said, if you only want historical data, yes. but if you want to "buy low/sell high" you need more frequent updates |
| 05:54.58 | Grem | hmm |
| 05:55.57 | Gryphen | wowecon.com warcraftauctionhouse.com |
| 05:56.04 | Grem | Nice, thanks |
| 06:09.00 | Cairenn | awww, you took out 42 |
| 06:09.27 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, I need to win the lotto or something |
| 06:10.00 | Neuro_Medivh | too much cool stuff I want to buy eventually |
| 06:11.34 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 06:12.33 | Thunder_Child | Q u o t e: |
| 06:12.34 | Thunder_Child | Ooooo, you gonna take that Drysc? :P |
| 06:12.34 | Thunder_Child | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 06:12.34 | Thunder_Child | His name is Dirtyjoe. I think he probably has enough going on without me banning him from the forums. |
| 06:12.37 | Thunder_Child | lolz |
| 06:49.07 | Thunder_Child | do shamans or pallys have dot's? |
| 06:49.30 | grimman | Don't think so. |
| 06:49.50 | Thunder_Child | i think they are the only two classes that dont...unless i am missing soemthing |
| 06:49.52 | grimman | At least I've never been subjected to one. :P |
| 06:49.59 | Thunder_Child | something* |
| 06:50.41 | grimman | What about warlocks? ;) |
| 06:50.53 | Thunder_Child | cute....real cute |
| 06:51.00 | grimman | :D |
| 06:52.49 | Thunder_Child | only because i am bitching about dots on the forum...it's ammo |
| 06:53.00 | grimman | Elaborate. |
| 06:53.37 | SP|Sorren | consecrate is technically a dot |
| 06:53.37 | Thunder_Child | i want to know why dots stop working after death when soloing |
| 06:53.48 | SP|Sorren | and so is um magma totem |
| 06:53.50 | Thunder_Child | i know the technical why they dont |
| 06:53.57 | Thunder_Child | i mean the reasoning behind it |
| 06:54.11 | grimman | SP|Sorren: Naw, they're area effects. |
| 06:54.13 | SP|Sorren | soloing mobs? |
| 06:54.15 | grimman | Dots persist. |
| 06:54.18 | Thunder_Child | if you can do it in pve, you should be able to do it in pvp |
| 06:54.27 | grimman | Outside the area of effect that is. |
| 06:54.38 | Thunder_Child | no they do not, get a mob to 1 hp, die and poof! there goes anything of yours |
| 06:54.47 | SP|Sorren | that happens to everyone |
| 06:55.01 | Thunder_Child | yea, but not in pvp, what i want to know is why |
| 06:55.14 | Thunder_Child | why damit, WHY! |
| 06:55.15 | SP|Sorren | so warlocks always kill you |
| 06:55.17 | SP|Sorren | duh |
| 06:55.28 | SP|Sorren | i survived a super warlock dot attack today |
| 06:55.28 | Thunder_Child | or priest, i have done it myself |
| 06:55.34 | SP|Sorren | after i killed him i had 1000 health left |
| 06:55.40 | SP|Sorren | sat down and ate some clefthoof ribs |
| 06:55.41 | grimman | IMPOSSIBLE |
| 06:55.44 | grimman | ;) |
| 06:55.44 | Thunder_Child | i mean why on the lack of such things soloing |
| 06:55.52 | gnorlish | flame shock is a dot |
| 06:55.56 | SP|Sorren | survived the end dot |
| 06:55.57 | SP|Sorren | ^ |
| 06:56.03 | SP|Sorren | so only plds i guess ;P |
| 06:56.09 | Corrodias | this is strange. the WowAce "TBC converted addons" says Big Wigs is updated, but the trunk version is only slightly ahead of the files version, and core.lua is still making calls that AL's updater changes if you run it on the file |
| 06:56.31 | SP|Sorren | alliance PLDs have a DoT apparantly |
| 06:57.16 | grimman | Called? |
| 06:57.18 | SP|Sorren | Seal of Vengence or something |
| 06:59.00 | grimman | New spell? Thott doesn't list any spell by that name on current live. |
| 06:59.29 | SP|Sorren | pretty sure its new |
| 07:08.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=31801 |
| 07:10.59 | Thunder_Child | lol effect can stack up to 0 times |
| 07:13.10 | Corrodias | i desire an SVN client that isn't a windows shell extension |
| 07:13.41 | Corrodias | i shall try RapidSVN |
| 07:14.07 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/What_is_the_SVN%3F |
| 07:17.29 | SP|Sorren | you can dispel death coil? |
| 07:18.27 | grimman | PVP trinkets or WotF can't anyway. |
| 07:18.41 | grimman | That's all I know on that subject. ;) |
| 07:19.04 | Nom- | It probably doesn't last long enough for anyone to click the dispel button lol |
| 07:19.08 | Nom- | assuming it is dispellable |
| 07:19.18 | Nom- | I've never noticed it lasting that long |
| 07:20.45 | Corrodias | RapidSVN appears to be sufficient |
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| 07:33.37 | Corrodias | how sad that the LFG channel is gone and i can't preach about CallToArms any more :( |
| 07:33.59 | grimman | /join LookingForGroup |
| 07:34.00 | grimman | :P |
| 07:34.59 | Corrodias | if i could convince others to use that as a realmwide chat channel, that would be fantastic.. although i'd rather have a more appropriate name. |
| 07:35.37 | grimman | rofl @ bad series I'm watching. They pause a recording they have, yet the static on the tape doesn't stop moving around. Gg! |
| 07:36.06 | grimman | Corrodias: It IS the old name, in case you're a bit confused about that. |
| 07:36.29 | grimman | Personally I'm happy if it's not being used. |
| 07:36.51 | Corrodias | i'm not sure what you're trying to convince me of, here |
| 07:36.55 | grimman | "WTS bla bla" is/was all too common. People are too stupid to use anything properly. :P |
| 07:37.17 | grimman | Nothing more than the fact that "LookingForGroup" is the live LFG channel. |
| 07:37.44 | Corrodias | LookingForGroup is largely used as the global chat in 1.12, but we don't have it by default in 2.0. unless everybody agrees on another one to use, we'll be back to having nobody to talk to for hours on end when out in the boondocks |
| 07:38.00 | Corrodias | *or agrees to /join and keep using LFG |
| 07:38.04 | grimman | /g Bla bla. |
| 07:38.22 | grimman | Or /join ImFeelingLonely ;) |
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| 07:38.36 | Corrodias | you apparently didn't notice, grimman, but we already have guild chat, and it has proven insufficient. |
| 07:38.52 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:39.05 | grimman | "We"... |
| 07:39.10 | grimman | /wave ckknight |
| 07:39.21 | Corrodias | ImFeelingLonely would need other people to agree to join it, or it would just be one guy |
| 07:39.33 | grimman | Indeed. |
| 07:44.14 | Corrodias | converting the line: for i=1,split,1 do tab[arg[i]]=arg[i+split]; end |
| 07:44.45 | Corrodias | how about:for i=1,split,1 do tab[select(i, ...)] = (select(i+split, ...)); end |
| 07:48.30 | grimman | - Goblin engineering teleporter added in Area 52 |
| 07:48.43 | grimman | Is there a gnomish engi teleporter anywhere in Outlands? |
| 07:49.23 | Corrodias | now that i don't know. do you know if the line i pasted for that conversion there is reasonable? |
| 07:49.40 | grimman | Sorry, no. |
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| 07:50.30 | grimman | But split looks a bit... reserved. Dunno if it is though. ;) |
| 07:53.07 | Mery | grimman - thottbot has a gnomish listed, but I don't know if you can get that yet |
| 07:53.07 | StripeKitteh | hi, I've been running around checking all over the net for a mod that allows you to view an IRC channel within WoW and haven't come up with much. does anyone know anything about this? |
| 07:53.36 | Mery | you can't get data into / out of the scripting system in realtime |
| 07:53.47 | grimman | Mery: ok... well, I'm goblin but I was thinking of going Gnomish with my rogue. ;> |
| 07:53.52 | Mery | therefore you can't display irc within the ui scripting system |
| 07:55.46 | StripeKitteh | damn, thanks for the info, I saw a mod that plays music and thought that it might have been possible :( |
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| 07:56.27 | s|loup | hi |
| 07:56.38 | grimman | Hai! |
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| 08:03.39 | Corrodias | looks like some people are still joining the LFG channel manually for chat :) |
| 08:03.42 | Corrodias | perhaps it will live on |
| 08:05.53 | grimman | I love my new mobile. ^^ |
| 08:06.00 | grimman | Murlocs start chanting when someone calls. |
| 08:06.19 | Corrodias | cute :) |
| 08:06.36 | Nom- | You know what would be cuter? |
| 08:06.39 | Nom- | Gnome voices |
| 08:09.40 | grimman | Naw. |
| 08:09.56 | Thunder_Child | dead babies? |
| 08:09.59 | grimman | People who don't know what murlocs are always go "wth is that?" and people who do know either cringe or smile. |
| 08:10.27 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?BloodElfFemaleLaugh01.mp3 << message signal. ^^ |
| 08:11.19 | Inside | omfg. |
| 08:11.22 | Inside | murloc ring tone |
| 08:11.24 | Inside | brilliant |
| 08:11.24 | Inside | fucking |
| 08:11.25 | Inside | brilliant |
| 08:11.29 | grimman | ^^ |
| 08:12.13 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 08:12.45 | grimman | afk |
| 08:12.51 | Thunder_Child | grimman, dont start this...or i will be forced to hunt down and kill you |
| 08:16.13 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
| 08:16.26 | Thunder_Child | night |
| 08:17.49 | Corrodias | of course for most of my more complex addons, i am still waiting for updates that work together :( |
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| 08:28.20 | Norque | hello all |
| 08:30.28 | Corrodias | yo |
| 08:31.09 | Norque | this new secure state stuff has exploded my brain... |
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| 08:39.24 | Thunder_Child | welcome to the club |
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| 08:39.54 | Thunder_Child | brains exploded daily since...err....patch info release |
| 08:39.59 | grimman | Thunder_Child: Don't start what? |
| 08:40.05 | Thunder_Child | with the exception of Iriel ofc |
| 08:40.16 | Thunder_Child | umm..moving WoW off the monitor |
| 08:43.08 | grimman | /ecb |
| 08:44.50 | Corrodias | oh, no wonder. ecb crashed during startup with an attempt to concat a nil. |
| 08:45.21 | grimman | :P |
| 08:47.27 | Corrodias | ECB_addChat( CASTINGBAR_LOADED ), apparently CASTINGBAR_LOADED is nil |
| 08:48.47 | grimman | Hrmpf @ loaded messages. |
| 08:50.16 | Corrodias | i see. he didn't put the localization.lua file(s) in the .toc. at least, that is my best guess at why it's erroring on all of the string variables |
| 08:50.47 | Norque | ok, so how would i go about having a button show or hide when another is right clicked, and hiding when it is clicked? |
| 08:51.52 | grimman | <OnClick>this:Hide();</OnClick>? :P |
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| 08:52.06 | Nom- | WTB: Time machine capable of transporting the user 39 minutes into the future so I don't have to sit here being bored. |
| 08:53.11 | Thunder_Child | wtb: time michene to go 39 min into the future to slap Nom- |
| 08:53.15 | Norque | I wish....for 2.0 i mean. Its got me beat |
| 08:53.25 | Thunder_Child | s/michene/machine/ |
| 08:53.48 | Corrodias | how interesting |
| 08:54.03 | Corrodias | for eCastingBar, two of the .lua files refer to variables initialized in each other |
| 08:54.22 | Thunder_Child | are you refering to the 2.x ecb? |
| 08:54.26 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 08:54.26 | grimman | Must be fun maintaining that, Corrodias. ;D |
| 08:54.33 | Thunder_Child | i have no problems with mine |
| 08:54.45 | Corrodias | just trying ot hack together a ... you don't? how strange. what version are you using? |
| 08:55.40 | Corrodias | my file is "eCastingBarTBC20001.zip" |
| 08:55.40 | Thunder_Child | looks like 2.00.01 |
| 08:56.43 | Thunder_Child | huh...i didnt know Neuro_Medivh had anything to do with ecb |
| 08:57.26 | Corrodias | even with no other addons loaded, enabling that causes errors for me. |
| 08:57.48 | Thunder_Child | only problem i have is where to put the target bar |
| 08:58.00 | Thunder_Child | ...but thats not what you really wantedto hear i'm sure |
| 08:58.21 | Corrodias | looks like it was updated just tonight, though |
| 08:58.30 | Thunder_Child | oh, mine was from a bit ago |
| 08:58.44 | Thunder_Child | looks like 11/3 |
| 08:59.06 | Corrodias | i seem to have been trying the same version you have, Thunder_Child. |
| 08:59.12 | Nom- | anyone know if the paladin fr aura stacks with shaman fr totem? |
| 08:59.20 | Thunder_Child | well if you have somewhere i can drop it i will |
| 08:59.38 | Corrodias | let me try this new one... |
| 08:59.41 | zenzelezz | I've been wondering about that too Nom |
| 08:59.57 | Corrodias | this new version works much better |
| 09:02.41 | Thunder_Child | ~god |
| 09:02.43 | purl | rumour has it, god is a llama, or real unless declared integer |
| 09:03.15 | Corrodias | mine reports its version as 2.00.01 even though it's 2.00.02, just downloaded it now |
| 09:03.34 | Thunder_Child | miss post maybe |
| 09:03.38 | Thunder_Child | mis* |
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| 09:05.43 | Thumann | hi.. i'm trying to make a macro for my warrior.. i've found one that charges and changes me into berserke instantly.. now i'm trying to user intercept if i have more than 10 rage, else cast battle stance.. if i'm out of combat |
| 09:05.59 | Thumann | of UnitMana("Player") > 10 and UnitAffectingCombat("Player") then CastSpellByName"Intercept" else CastShapeshiftForm(1) end |
| 09:06.37 | Thumann | but i dont think this checks if i'm out of combat when changing back to battle stance |
| 09:06.39 | grimman | Don't bother, you in 4 days macros like that won't work. |
| 09:06.52 | Thumann | :o |
| 09:06.54 | Thumann | then what |
| 09:07.00 | Thumann | i know the patch will land |
| 09:07.01 | zenzelezz | then you'll have to do it yourself |
| 09:07.04 | grimman | Minus the "you". :P |
| 09:07.08 | Thumann | :D |
| 09:07.37 | Thumann | well.. how is that? |
| 09:07.46 | Thumann | what did they change? (everything?) |
| 09:07.51 | grimman | Scripts can no longer make decisions for you. |
| 09:07.54 | zenzelezz | in the patch they're blocking most forms of selective casting |
| 09:08.00 | Corrodias | this is bizarre. WoW's sound effects sound very... "different" from how they used to |
| 09:08.26 | Thumann | zenzelezz: i see |
| 09:12.00 | Thunder_Child | lol, there is a mathimatical formula for murphys law |
| 09:12.27 | Inside | lim(discussion)->OMG_PINK_NAZIS |
| 09:12.28 | Thumann | zenzelezz: :/ i can't find it in the patch notes |
| 09:12.31 | Inside | ... wait a minute. |
| 09:13.08 | Corrodias | it's just a single line about the UI changing significantly |
| 09:13.57 | Thumann | i'm reading http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6832 |
| 09:14.04 | Thumann | it isn't mentioned there? |
| 09:14.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corrodias, is your druid on the beta servers? |
| 09:14.53 | zenzelezz | Thumann: "Spell casting and targetting (including focus) are only allowed using secure templates or special slash commands (not /script)." |
| 09:15.15 | Corrodias | THAT'S better. i MEANT to enter SET SoundMaxHardwareChannels "0" |
| 09:15.26 | Corrodias | my druid is on the PTR |
| 09:15.32 | Thumann | zenzelezz: ahh |
| 09:15.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | ptr's not enough, sadly, i'm curious if they nerfed mangle back down to 25% on beta or not |
| 09:16.25 | Corrodias | yeah, no idea |
| 09:16.44 | grimman | Nerf, he says... it was clearly overpowered. :P |
| 09:17.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah god forbid druids have a decent 41 point talent |
| 09:17.15 | Corrodias | WoW just sounds so much better without using hardware channels for audio, whatever exactly that entails |
| 09:17.32 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 09:17.49 | zenzelezz | I thought that would cause a performance hit |
| 09:18.05 | grimman | Corrodias: Sounds like you need a better soundcard? Haw haw. |
| 09:18.33 | Corrodias | maybe, zenzelezz, but the software positioning processing is apparently much more accurate than what i get out of this x-fi |
| 09:19.03 | zenzelezz | hm, that's interesting... my brother has no such complaints about his X-fi |
| 09:19.17 | zenzelezz | couldn't have been some incorrect setting that affected the output? |
| 09:20.44 | Corrodias | i can't speculate on that. i do play in Entertainment mode, just because WoW doesn't use any fancy effects that require Game mode. |
| 09:21.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | since using my audigy 2 for the past 4 years i've decided i'm never buying another creative product ever again |
| 09:22.30 | zenzelezz | my sixth sense is telling me you're not entirely happy with it |
| 09:23.17 | grimman | Mr_Rabies: What's wrong with it? |
| 09:23.50 | grimman | My Audigy2 has served me very well since the day I bought it. Granted, I stopped using the Creative provided drivers after less than a week, but... that's not hardware. ;D |
| 09:24.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just reaally unreliable |
| 09:24.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably driver related |
| 09:24.12 | zenzelezz | unreliable how? |
| 09:24.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's causing my random bluescreens at this point |
| 09:24.26 | grimman | The Creative drivers are, or at least were, horrible. |
| 09:24.29 | zenzelezz | I'm loving my Audigy 2, but yeah, getting a decent driver is... well, quite a quest |
| 09:24.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i occasionally have to reinstall the drivers from time to time |
| 09:24.50 | grimman | Hm. I get that too. |
| 09:25.10 | grimman | "from time to time" may sound worse that it is though, it's happened twice since I bought it ages ago. |
| 09:25.19 | grimman | Back when it was brand spanking new and exciting. :P |
| 09:25.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll just go onboard from now on |
| 09:25.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | onboard is massively improved these days |
| 09:25.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus many less compat issues |
| 09:25.43 | grimman | Anyway, if the hardware is damage it will bluescreen on you. Recent experience has taught me that. |
| 09:25.48 | grimman | damages* |
| 09:25.50 | grimman | GAH |
| 09:25.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | no EAX but pfft |
| 09:25.54 | grimman | damaged* |
| 09:26.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's random bluescreens, it's really bizarre |
| 09:26.05 | zenzelezz | I'd rather go without sound than with onboard, but that's just me =) |
| 09:26.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the only thing other than maybe ram that could be causing it as far as i know |
| 09:26.26 | grimman | I dunno about random, but a friend of mine dislodged his Live!-card and the computer became totally unstable after that. |
| 09:26.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine shipped dislodged :X |
| 09:26.36 | grimman | I think his record uptime after that was like 20 minutes. |
| 09:26.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | when i bought this machine i couldn't build my own pc's |
| 09:26.55 | grimman | *gasp* |
| 09:27.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i can slap together a working one in about 10 mins assuming nothing's damaged :P |
| 09:27.11 | grimman | 10 minutes is faster than me. ;( |
| 09:27.28 | grimman | I thought it'd take that long to replace my old mobo, but it turned out to take ALOT longer than that. |
| 09:27.38 | Corrodias | hahah, yes. |
| 09:27.51 | grimman | Bloody ASUS crap was delivered "dislodged". :P |
| 09:27.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i took a networking class in high school, we typically had take apart machine->build machine-> install windows races between starcraft matches |
| 09:28.07 | grimman | Never got the much boasted-about onboard gigabit LAN to work. |
| 09:28.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | that and quake 3 |
| 09:28.32 | grimman | Windows would find it, ask for drivers and when they were installed, Windows wanted a reboot and the NIC never showed up again after that. |
| 09:28.48 | grimman | Except for when I reformated. Same deal then. |
| 09:28.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | my buddy walked out of that class with about 2 grand in computer equipment :P |
| 09:29.10 | grimman | o_o |
| 09:29.21 | grimman | StarCraft and Q3... sounds ALOT like my class. |
| 09:29.36 | grimman | Or more like EXACTLY like my class, hehe. |
| 09:29.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'm guessing you weren't taking networking in georgia based on your hostmask |
| 09:30.00 | grimman | Though we were never allowed to open our boxes. |
| 09:30.11 | grimman | Doubtful. ;) |
| 09:30.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like somewhere up in the great white north maybe |
| 09:30.17 | grimman | At least I can't recall ever being there. |
| 09:30.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | skanova sounds swedish or similar to me :o |
| 09:30.52 | grimman | It is. |
| 09:31.06 | grimman | Afaik they own all major wires in Sweden. |
| 09:31.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wow |
| 09:31.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was a good guess |
| 09:31.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | Hjälp oss att ge dig ännu bättre service! |
| 09:31.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | Berätta om dina erfarenheter. |
| 09:31.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | Det tar ca 5 minuter att svara på frågorna. |
| 09:31.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | ARGH |
| 09:31.36 | grimman | ok. |
| 09:31.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went to the site and now i'm confused by this gibberish |
| 09:31.45 | grimman | It's a language. |
| 09:32.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i know :P |
| 09:32.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's see |
| 09:32.07 | grimman | You called it gibberish. :( |
| 09:32.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | help us make our service better! |
| 09:32.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's all i can read :x |
| 09:32.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know what language it is but i can kinda read some of it |
| 09:32.42 | grimman | That's roughly what it translates to, yes. |
| 09:32.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | swedish or something i guess |
| 09:33.00 | grimman | That would be quite logical. |
| 09:33.27 | zenzelezz | it is indeed Swedish |
| 09:33.28 | grimman | Sweden, Swedish. It all makes sense now! |
| 09:33.28 | grimman | ;) |
| 09:33.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i took spanish, but that's like not related at all |
| 09:33.40 | grimman | Nop. |
| 09:33.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't know how i could read it, i can do the same with german a lot of the time |
| 09:34.01 | grimman | Easy, many words look alike. |
| 09:34.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | secret german heritage activate |
| 09:34.09 | zenzelezz | there are many similarities between European languages |
| 09:34.13 | grimman | hehe |
| 09:34.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i lived in one of those scandinavianish countries :[ |
| 09:34.52 | zenzelezz | "Help us provide better service. Tell us about your experience. It will take about 5 minutes to answer the questions" |
| 09:35.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a big fan of power metal and metal in general, and those countries are where you go for kickass music |
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| 09:35.44 | grimman | Mr_Rabies2: What? An american that isn't totally and completely sucked into the Hip Hop scene? What's this? |
| 09:35.48 | grimman | /panic |
| 09:35.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | Hip Hop? arrgh |
| 09:36.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather listen to basshunter all day than that crap |
| 09:36.19 | grimman | DIE |
| 09:36.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like choosing between cancer and a firing squad |
| 09:37.52 | grimman | I'd agree if I could figure out which one would be cancer. :P |
| 09:38.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like the DoTA song only because it gets stuck in your head so damn easily, i don't like it like it :/ |
| 09:39.04 | grimman | Please, shup up and die. :( |
| 09:39.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah it sucks getting a song stuck in your head in a language you completely don't know |
| 09:39.28 | grimman | I assume you enjoy In Flames, mm? |
| 09:40.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like the guitars pretty well, vocals aren't my favorite, but i'll listen to them happily |
| 09:40.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | I like Dream Evil a lot though :P |
| 09:40.37 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?09_in_flames-minus-amrc.mp3 |
| 09:40.47 | grimman | Had that one on my webhost. Feel free to download it. |
| 09:41.18 | grimman | I'm not really using all that much of my available bandwidth... my quest for efficiency bites me in the ass once more. ;( |
| 09:41.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | how well known are Dream Evil over there? |
| 09:41.36 | grimman | I've never heard of them. |
| 09:41.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know anyone who's heard of them until i force them to listen to them |
| 09:43.24 | grimman | Hook me up. |
| 09:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay one sec |
| 09:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | They're totally over the top, they take themselves about as seriously as Bruce Campbell |
| 09:44.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=mcZ_IHR-NtA |
| 09:44.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a wow video |
| 09:45.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | haven't watched it all the way through |
| 09:45.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it might suck |
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| 09:45.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | the video looks pretty crappy so far |
| 09:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | not enough action for an epic song :[ |
| 09:46.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like THE BARRENS: THE MOVIE |
| 09:46.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | with a nice background theme :x |
| 09:46.58 | grimman | :P |
| 09:47.12 | grimman | I guess it's ok... just not my kind of metal. ;) |
| 09:47.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i'm not that big of a fan of the black metal vocal style but i'll listen to it |
| 09:47.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like dethklok but they don't really count i don't guess :x |
| 09:48.13 | grimman | This isn't black metal. >_< |
| 09:48.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know :P |
| 09:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like power metal vocals more than black metal-ish stuff |
| 09:49.13 | grimman | I'm uplooting (hihi) a black metal song to the loot now. ;> |
| 09:49.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8520343809211175897&q=dethklok |
| 09:49.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i loves me some dethklok |
| 09:50.20 | grimman | *ding ding* PM for the druid. |
| 09:51.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7454431298854295514&q=dethklok |
| 09:51.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | most metal opening for a tv show ever. |
| 09:51.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's not much more metal than killing dragons with a guitar while you're playing a solo |
| 09:52.13 | grimman | lawl |
| 09:52.19 | grimman | That is SO Discworld style. |
| 09:52.21 | grimman | I love it. :D |
| 09:52.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probably my favorite show on TV at the moment |
| 09:53.35 | grimman | I'm gonna HAVE to get my grubby hands on that series. |
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| 09:54.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the episodes are on google video |
| 09:55.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | It's about a metal band that's basically a world superpower. |
| 09:55.55 | grimman | lol |
| 09:56.16 | grimman | The guy talking about the endorsement deals in ep 11 (which you linked) sounds extremely danish. ;D |
| 09:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the two guitarists are supposed to be norwegian |
| 09:57.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
| 10:00.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it doesn't seem to specify really |
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| 10:08.25 | grimman | ok. :P |
| 10:08.38 | grimman | Forgot to answer... I'm watching Star Trek. ;D |
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| 10:20.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wow |
| 10:20.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://waffleimages.gbsfm.info/files/e3/e3ddd39c05617d91be10ae7a4402e10aab31049b.jpg spoiler alert |
| 10:22.51 | grimman | Funny, videos of supercooled beer. :D |
| 10:24.03 | grimman | http://youtube.com/watch?v=V3R4VAdCbTg << Water. omg! |
| 10:24.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohman drood tier 5 looks cool :O |
| 10:24.41 | grimman | You get more antlers, right? |
| 10:25.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | treebark |
| 10:27.31 | Corrodias | the Mandriva One bootable linux discs are well-laid-out, whether you go gnome or KDE |
| 10:28.17 | Thunder_Child | for some reason i hate gnome...and ofc it happens to be the default ui |
| 10:28.39 | Corrodias | how fortunate then that they have a bootable KDE-based disc >_> |
| 10:28.58 | Thunder_Child | i still prefer FC |
| 10:29.15 | Thunder_Child | and on linux i prefer command line anywas |
| 10:29.20 | Thunder_Child | anyways* |
| 10:29.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | grimman check your PM's |
| 10:30.21 | grimman | Oh... could it have been tier4 I saw then? |
| 10:30.24 | Corrodias | i certainly like KDE more than Gnome |
| 10:30.28 | grimman | Cause I definitely remember antlers. |
| 10:30.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 10:30.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats t4 |
| 10:32.56 | grimman | Antlers ftl. |
| 10:33.14 | grimman | I remember an old guildmate going "ffs, more antlers" when tier something something hit. |
| 10:33.20 | grimman | And we'd all laugh. |
| 10:33.23 | grimman | Except the druids. |
| 10:33.59 | Kirkburn | Heh, a 67 paladin soloed Baron Strat in 45 mins |
| 10:34.03 | Corrodias | needs more antlers |
| 10:34.04 | grimman | o_o |
| 10:34.19 | Kirkburn | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=42B056511861DDF189E588A3E539D4A3?topicId=1590515&sid=1 |
| 10:34.31 | Kirkburn | Argh, I hate jsessionid |
| 10:35.01 | grimman | So cut it out? |
| 10:35.22 | Kirkburn | shush, that's too obvious :P |
| 10:35.22 | grimman | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1590515&sid=1 works just as well. :) |
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| 10:42.11 | Corrodias | okay, mandriva-kde is nice. let's see how ubuntu holds up. |
| 10:46.53 | Corrodias | not bad |
| 10:53.44 | Corrodias | these are all loaded with pretty general programs. OpenOffice, media players, firefox, gimp, and such |
| 10:54.08 | grimman | Hah... 2 pairs of headphones, 3 handsfree kits, 1 headset and innumberable other cables, all on my desk right now. I think, MAYBE, I should do some cleaning up. :P |
| 10:54.26 | grimman | Tidying up would be a better term I guess. |
| 10:54.38 | zenzelezz | I don't like cleaning... I can never find anything afterwards |
| 10:54.40 | Corrodias | the odd thing is that so far i haven't seen any convenient, gui-based option for mounting hard disk partitions |
| 10:54.47 | Corrodias | in any of these live discs |
| 10:54.56 | grimman | zenzelezz: Same here... but I really don't need 3 handsfree kits. ;D |
| 10:55.31 | zenzelezz | what if two of them break? You'd feel really silly if you sat there without a set! |
| 10:55.47 | grimman | *gasp* |
| 10:55.58 | grimman | Actually, two of them are incompatible with my new phone. |
| 10:56.07 | Corrodias | kubuntu is sexy-looking, but i'm not seeing gimp, firefox, or any of those others, and rather am seeing KDE apps |
| 10:56.23 | grimman | And I do have an extra set in an unopened box... I didn't know a set came with the phone. >_< |
| 10:56.35 | grimman | Oop. Found another computer headset. |
| 11:00.11 | grimman | Meh. I need to stop hoarding crap. A Voodoo5 box in my closet. |
| 11:00.12 | grimman | Yay. |
| 11:06.54 | Corrodias | how disappointing that there are a bunch of fubar addons that aren't updated! |
| 11:07.42 | grimman | http://3dfx.dlxmedia.net/ << Yay. |
| 11:07.49 | grimman | Corrodias: Get to work! ;D |
| 11:08.05 | Corrodias | lol :) |
| 11:08.23 | Corrodias | well, i've done the basic jury-rigging of .toc and .lua. let's see which function. |
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| 11:09.54 | [Cu]Werik | Heyo |
| 11:11.26 | grimman | /wave [Cu]Werik |
| 11:11.56 | Corrodias | honorfu and itembonusesfu will give me either no results or results that make no sense |
| 11:12.38 | grimman | :( |
| 11:13.45 | Corrodias | yyyyeeeaaah, it's pretty much all broken, at least anything that hasn't explicitly been updated. |
| 11:16.53 | Corrodias | ah, so many addons just not ready for a patch so soon! |
| 11:17.24 | Corrodias | i can't blame anyone for not working hard enough on them, of course. |
| 11:17.31 | zenzelezz | so certain are you? |
| 11:17.38 | zenzelezz | they might be ready, just not released |
| 11:18.29 | Corrodias | i hope that's more to adjust for last-minute changes than it is to annoy me while i'm trying to prepare for 2.0 ahead of time :) |
| 11:18.37 | grimman | If any of you want an updated TrinketKeys version I have it, but I will not publish it. |
| 11:18.57 | Corrodias | what's trinketkeys, and why would you not publish it? |
| 11:19.19 | grimman | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5699 |
| 11:19.30 | grimman | Reason: Current fix isn't really so much a fix as a bug. :( |
| 11:22.47 | Corrodias | i just wonder if there's a point to trying to update my addons now. with so many not finished (or at least not released), i could spend all this non-playing time updating stuff -after- the patch while they finish up instead of now, when i could be playing with my UI intact |
| 11:23.27 | grimman | Of course there's a point... it'll ease the transition for people relying on your addons. |
| 11:24.02 | Corrodias | correction: i'm talking about updating my collection of addons that i use, not any published addons that other people use. i'm downloading updated versions of what's available and making notes of what isn't. |
| 11:24.21 | Corrodias | most of the addons that consist of more than a few lines of code are apparently not ready, yet. :/ |
| 11:39.27 | Corrodias | eleven of my fubars are outdated. poor me! |
| 11:40.01 | grimman | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/Taters/tshirt1.jpg |
| 11:40.16 | Corrodias | grimman: what i mean is that i'm preparing my client to play 2.0. i've never written any addons. |
| 11:40.22 | Corrodias | just to be clear. |
| 11:40.28 | grimman | Roger. |
| 11:44.29 | Corrodias | the good news is that after 2 days of this, i've gotten through half of my addons |
| 11:45.07 | Corrodias | and i only have eight so far on my list that don't work and that i need to wait for updates for, plus the eleven fubar ones |
| 11:45.39 | grimman | Fix DAB for me and I'll e-hug you. |
| 11:45.40 | grimman | ;) |
| 11:47.51 | Corrodias | i can't fix "speedfu" ;P |
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| 11:49.40 | Corrodias | so i think this is what i've decided on for my mage: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=RbxVc0f0xcZZVVMhRfxs0o |
| 11:50.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | any BC hunters here ? |
| 11:51.07 | VoidRaider|Sleep | Morning :) |
| 11:51.10 | VoidRaider|Sleep | and yeah :) |
| 11:51.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | do u got a spore bat ? |
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| 11:52.48 | VoidRaider | Hmm what do you mean mate ? :P |
| 11:53.13 | |FF|Im2good4u | as pet |
| 11:53.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry http://www.nexusarcanus.net/wow/flightpath_wtf.gif |
| 11:53.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | i jsut tamed a sporebat it looks awsome :P but it has no abileties |
| 11:53.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | so i wodering if an1 know the abileties of a spore bat |
| 11:53.53 | VoidRaider | ahh |
| 11:54.19 | VoidRaider | I thought you mean like getting as it was a second pet or something lol |
| 11:54.43 | VoidRaider | Well some of the spells haven't been customize yet |
| 11:54.47 | VoidRaider | pets* |
| 11:54.50 | VoidRaider | :P |
| 11:55.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah oke |
| 11:55.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | sporebat still look awsome :p |
| 11:55.30 | VoidRaider | haha :) |
| 11:57.10 | Maldivia | sporebats... isn't that the mobs with the +30 all stats buff? |
| 11:58.16 | VoidRaider | I don't think this pet family were customized yet mate :) |
| 11:58.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://home.zonnet.nl/westhof99/sporebat.jpg |
| 11:59.58 | VoidRaider | It's gear they added new pet families :) |
| 12:00.13 | VoidRaider | great* |
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| 12:02.08 | grimman | Mr_Rabies2: Amazing. |
| 12:02.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh and the new pets look cool aswel :p |
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| 12:03.41 | VoidRaider | yup :P |
| 12:05.29 | VoidRaider | Whats's your spec ? |
| 12:05.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | marksman ofc :P |
| 12:05.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | ftw |
| 12:05.45 | VoidRaider | :P |
| 12:06.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | im jsut level 60 bu i think level 64 aspect of the viper will own :P |
| 12:06.46 | VoidRaider | yeah Well I'm level 60 for like 4 months there lol |
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| 12:07.53 | VoidRaider | Rewriting all my UI :P |
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| 12:12.21 | Saeris | It is possible to have one addon list a load-on-demand addon in the RequiredDep field without automatically invoking the loading process on the latter, right? I seem to recall that being the case, but I can't seem to keep this load-on-demand addon from loading. |
| 12:13.35 | Maldivia | if a non-lod addons has a lod addon as requirement, the lod addon is loaded - since it's demanded! |
| 12:14.15 | Saeris | Yarrr, so there's no way to require the LOD addon to be enabled without automatically loading it? |
| 12:14.44 | Maldivia | a requirement is a demand, thus forcing a LoD addosn to be loaded |
| 12:15.09 | VoidRaider | OptionalDep won't load it ? |
| 12:15.22 | Maldivia | true |
| 12:15.26 | Saeris | Very well. I'll just place some additional checks in the actual code to ensure that it has loaded after LoadAddOn is called. |
| 12:15.53 | Maldivia | Saeris: IsAddOnLoaded("NameOfAddon") |
| 12:16.07 | VoidRaider | but you want it as a requirement mate, in other words the requirement is a must for your addon to function properly |
| 12:16.21 | Saeris | Maldivia: Well, yes. ;) That's what I meant by additional checks. |
| 12:16.32 | Maldivia | Saeris: are you perhaps interested in the "load with" feature? |
| 12:16.47 | Maldivia | so when the LoD addon is loaded, your addon is automatically loaded aswell? |
| 12:18.06 | Saeris | Nah. Basically, I have an options frame component for one of my addons which I don't want to load until the user wants to configure options. I'm playing to the fact that that won't happen often. I'll just use IsAddOnLoaded, though. |
| 12:18.27 | Maldivia | just use LoadAddon("addon_config") |
| 12:18.37 | Maldivia | it's faster than calling IsAddOnLoaded :9 |
| 12:18.54 | Saeris | Seriously? You just call it regardless and it's still faster? |
| 12:19.07 | Saeris | Well, fair enough. |
| 12:19.13 | Maldivia | well, LoadAddOn automatically calls IsAddOnLoaded :9 |
| 12:19.31 | Maldivia | and returns if it's already loaded, so you're basically just doing a double check |
| 12:19.41 | Saeris | Makes sense. Thanks. |
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| 12:27.38 | VoidRaider | Hmm I don't get it people spend time to create a library for Ace2 though Ace2 has almost the same functionality on its own, not to mention that the BC has these functions built-in :P |
| 12:30.42 | Maldivia | more specificallt? |
| 12:32.04 | VoidRaider | nop |
| 12:32.30 | VoidRaider | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3398 |
| 12:35.28 | Maldivia | probably because it was build for 1.12, where that functionality wasnt present |
| 12:36.14 | VoidRaider | yeah well still, it supports the BC :P |
| 12:36.40 | Maldivia | well, it also adds functionality that's not present in the API |
| 12:36.51 | VoidRaider | but ok I guess for compatibility |
| 12:36.56 | Maldivia | and the other methods are probably just for backward compatability |
| 12:37.03 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 12:37.14 | VoidRaider | yup :) |
| 12:40.05 | VoidRaider | Any better compression method then .Ace ? Zp7 ? |
| 12:40.31 | Maldivia | bz2 |
| 12:41.11 | VoidRaider | I'll try it :P |
| 12:43.30 | Maldivia | well, really depends on what type of files you're compressing |
| 12:44.30 | VoidRaider | DB |
| 12:44.39 | VoidRaider | Hmm text |
| 12:47.00 | Maldivia | well, another thing to keep in mind, is if it's something you'll want other people to extract |
| 12:47.16 | Maldivia | in which case, zip or rar are probably the best choice |
| 12:47.27 | VoidRaider | yeah true :P |
| 12:48.25 | Maldivia | http://www.maximumcompression.com/index.html <-- LARGE compression comparison |
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| 12:49.01 | VoidRaider | ahh great :P |
| 12:49.52 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?playstation_evolution.jpg << Wonder how many fanboys will want to kill me for that. :P |
| 12:52.02 | Maldivia | VoidRaider: there's also the question of time... X might be able to compress til 25MB, where Y can only get it to 30MB, but Y uses 2 minutes, and X uses 2 hours... what's best :) |
| 12:52.53 | JoshBork1 | grimman: lol, nice |
| 12:53.20 | VoidRaider | true Maldivia :P |
| 12:53.29 | grimman | I was gonna go with a grain silo first, but I found that little gem. :D |
| 12:53.41 | Maldivia | VoidRaider: but from what I can tell, the RK format is the best at the moment |
| 12:54.19 | VoidRaider | Hmm in what terms ? |
| 12:54.34 | Maldivia | not in time :9 |
| 12:54.36 | Maldivia | it's PAQ based :9 |
| 12:54.47 | VoidRaider | ohh :P |
| 12:56.18 | Maldivia | example of 300Mb mixed data... winrar at best settings: 72.58%, 174 seconds |
| 12:56.35 | Maldivia | WinRK at best settings: 79.70%, 30604 seconds |
| 12:56.45 | Corrodias | i seem to be downloading a 700mb druid pvp video |
| 12:57.34 | Corrodias | fortunately it's coming in at just under 600KiB/s |
| 12:57.56 | Maldivia | heh |
| 12:58.23 | Saeris | link? |
| 12:58.35 | Maldivia | well, druid pvp videos need to be that big... it take druids 10 minutes to kill other people.. |
| 12:58.59 | Corrodias | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=30512 |
| 12:59.35 | Maldivia | 37 minutes... 721 MB... geez |
| 13:00.19 | Saeris | ahhh that movie. I think I have it. It's great editing, but watching a druid PvP is pretty boring. |
| 13:00.44 | VoidRaider | hahah 30604 seconds are you sure :P |
| 13:01.13 | Maldivia | 1.38 MiB/s here :) |
| 13:01.14 | grimman | Masters of Fleeing: A druid PVP movie. |
| 13:01.16 | grimman | :P |
| 13:01.40 | Maldivia | VoidRaider: ohh sorry, it was 30603 |
| 13:01.46 | VoidRaider | lol :P |
| 13:02.03 | Maldivia | VoidRaider: http://www.maximumcompression.com/data/summary_mf.php |
| 13:02.10 | Corrodias | please... don't remind me of how much my druid does not pwn anything |
| 13:02.13 | grimman | There was this one druid that used to piss me off so much in PVP. |
| 13:02.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Saeris> ahhh that movie. I think I have it. It's great editing, but watching a druid PvP is pretty boring. |
| 13:02.42 | Maldivia | VoidRaider: but it did cut an aditional 22 MB of the final archive |
| 13:02.43 | grimman | He would aggro me, do his damage and as soon as I turned my attention towards him he'd /fleeform and run towards the nearest body of water, jump in and go navy seal. |
| 13:02.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you have a picture in picture of their hands on the keyboard |
| 13:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | then you'll see some serious moves |
| 13:03.11 | Corrodias | lol @ grimman's druid problem |
| 13:03.25 | JoshBork1 | THEY UNDID MY TALENTS! |
| 13:03.37 | VoidRaider | Still the results are awesome :P |
| 13:03.48 | Corrodias | the weird thing is that this video has a druid in flight form in a snowy area. looks like winterspring to my non-BC eye. |
| 13:04.25 | Corrodias | i suspect this may be part of that editing |
| 13:05.35 | Maldivia | hmm, dont think there are any snowy areas in BC |
| 13:07.47 | Corrodias | yeah, that story segment was all constructed with a model viewer |
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| 13:28.53 | Mery | Maldivia: you missed a "not" in http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50727603&sid=1 |
| 13:29.17 | Maldivia | hehe, ups |
| 13:29.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | this shirt is black. NOTTT |
| 13:29.38 | Fisker | Pamela i no like you anymore, NOTTTT |
| 13:30.30 | Dhraga | Question : What DKP addons does you/your guild currntly use ? (Ours have been nDKP and oDKP) |
| 13:30.30 | JoshBorke | morning! |
| 13:32.26 | Maldivia | one I made |
| 13:34.04 | Dhraga | Maldiva, wich one is that if it's released ? |
| 13:41.01 | Corrodias | since when have semicolons caused problems? |
| 13:41.08 | Corrodias | (not that i've ever written a macro) |
| 13:53.48 | Mery | Corrodias it's not a /script function(); it's a /cast Spell; I think calls CastSpellByName("Spell;") and a semicolon there might break it |
| 13:54.18 | Corrodias | yeah, that could do it |
| 13:54.26 | Corrodias | maybe. i'm just saying i don't see why it couldn't. |
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| 14:15.32 | Maldivia | Mery: probably more the fact that there's no slashhandler for "/stopcasting;" - since it's "/stopcasting" |
| 14:15.50 | Maldivia | Mery: if still refering to the post, I made a typo in |
| 14:16.35 | nevcairiel | has anyone else noticed a drop in beta performance since the last push? |
| 14:19.09 | Maldivia | I've only logged in to explore shadowmoon valley, that's all :9 |
| 14:19.12 | Maldivia | so nope |
| 14:19.31 | Mery | oh right :) |
| 14:19.42 | Maldivia | and died a few time in the process, once to a pack of angry elite cubes |
| 14:19.53 | nevcairiel | lol more cubes? |
| 14:20.02 | nevcairiel | i hope those in mana tombs got de-cubed now |
| 14:20.47 | Maldivia | I found a named hostile elite, that looked pretty touch.... didn't notice the 20+ cubes around it, that aggroed me, and killed me |
| 14:21.06 | Maldivia | well, cubes an a chocobo |
| 14:21.21 | Maldivia | and* |
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| 14:43.28 | Corrodias | firefox has this feature that clicking quicky a few times opens up a magnifier, it seems. or one of my extensions does. |
| 14:43.52 | Maldivia | it's an extension |
| 14:44.06 | Corrodias | it's specifically infuriating when trying to use talent calculators and i have GOT to get to the bottom of it |
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| 14:44.45 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 14:45.18 | Maldivia | you using 1.5 or 2.0? |
| 14:45.30 | Maldivia | and if 1.5, you have reveal installed? |
| 14:45.57 | Corrodias | yes 1.5 and yes reveal |
| 14:47.03 | Maldivia | reveal has that feature :9 |
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| 14:47.28 | Corrodias | thank you so much |
| 14:47.42 | Corrodias | now i can use talent calculators for another 5 seconds without going mad |
| 14:53.44 | Elkano | hmm?? |
| 14:54.18 | Maldivia | Elkano ? |
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| 14:55.15 | Maldivia | morning cog |
| 14:55.28 | cogwheel | greetin's |
| 14:56.29 | Mery | morning cog, having fun at the forums? |
| 14:56.48 | cogwheel | for the most part... Haven't come across any *too* jackassy posts yet... |
| 14:56.55 | Mery | :) |
| 14:57.02 | cogwheel | though that one by Bomb is kinda funny... |
| 14:57.03 | Maldivia | cogwheel: don't worry, you'll find some :) |
| 14:57.08 | Mery | well probably because he went to bed |
| 14:57.44 | cogwheel | actually, it was funnier before he deleted his posts' content :( |
| 14:57.45 | Maldivia | Mery: or maby because he didn't want to be quoted for a referean to aplan? |
| 14:58.16 | Maldivia | and damn, I spell like shit right now |
| 14:58.20 | cogwheel | WTH is up with all the stickies rearranging themselves every now and then? |
| 14:58.36 | cogwheel | hey... at least you didn't type m instead of p |
| 14:59.26 | Maldivia | *sniff* nope - that's not a problem |
| 14:59.36 | cogwheel | XD |
| 15:00.12 | Maldivia | or were you refering to another P? |
| 15:01.04 | cogwheel | nope... that was the one... |
| 15:01.29 | cogwheel | Go Mery! |
| 15:01.35 | Maldivia | well, spell is one of the words you type so often, that's it's not often mistyped |
| 15:01.57 | Maldivia | especially when posting on the UI forums... |
| 15:02.06 | Mery | huh? |
| 15:02.06 | Maldivia | although, I'd expect the use will drop a lot after 2.0 |
| 15:02.17 | cogwheel | finding Bomb's original post :D |
| 15:03.54 | Mery | haha well i don't like people that delete their post after the blue answer doesn't match their opinion |
| 15:04.36 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.48 | Maldivia | was considering posting a 0/10 |
| 15:04.59 | Maldivia | but restrained myself |
| 15:05.36 | wereHamster | what's wrong with his UI? it's quite nice... |
| 15:06.38 | Mery | well just in case I got it (and i wouldn't count on that myself) he is implying that his UI has to look like the default UI when 2.0 hits |
| 15:06.46 | sylvanaar | 0.........|.....................10 |
| 15:07.49 | Maldivia | Mery: why would it have to... my UI in 2.0 looks exactly the same as on 1.12 - or well, I've replaced DAB with BT3 |
| 15:08.08 | Cairenn|afk | Mery: precisely. it was a screenshot of vanilla |
| 15:08.29 | JoshBorke | morning Cairenn|afk! |
| 15:08.46 | Cairenn|afk | hi guys |
| 15:08.52 | Mery | well its a disguised post of "the ui changes break my complete ui" whine post |
| 15:09.03 | Corrodias | mine looks pretty gutted at the moment, but only because eleven fubar plugins and a few other addons that are essential to my UI looking like it does in 1.12 are not updated for 2.0, yet. |
| 15:09.03 | Cairenn|afk | yup |
| 15:09.05 | Xuerian | 'morning, Cairenn :P |
| 15:09.09 | Mery | Morning Carirenn |
| 15:12.36 | Maldivia | the only annoyance I have at the moment with my UI, is that the spell book (and similar frames) appears different places, depending on if I'm in or out of combat |
| 15:16.55 | cogwheel | XD http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50727651&postId=509037684&sid=1 |
| 15:18.13 | Xuerian | Wait for it... .waaiiiiiit for it....... waaiiiiit... ZING |
| 15:23.40 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone want to make a stickied post named "SEACH WORKS - USE IT!" |
| 15:23.48 | Maldivia | ehh, search :) |
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| 15:26.59 | Mery | lol how am I supposed to answer questions about quests I did 2 or more weeks ago? |
| 15:27.08 | Mery | with only the questname as hint :) |
| 15:27.40 | Mery | oh wait they show the objectives, thats a little better |
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| 15:30.37 | Maldivia | morn Kirk |
| 15:30.53 | Arrowmaster` | cogwheel, whats wrong with just using /cast Judgement /stopcasting /cast Seal of Command? |
| 15:31.33 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: the fact that I don't macro my pally so i never thought of that :P |
| 15:31.40 | Elkano | Corrodias, which are these 'essential' fubar plugins? |
| 15:31.50 | cogwheel | plus, i always get miffed when people think /castsequence is something it's not... XD |
| 15:32.14 | Kirkburn | Morning Maldivia :) |
| 15:32.29 | Arrowmaster | my level 11 pally on a server i never play on anymore even has a macro like that |
| 15:35.55 | Neuro_Medivh | Arrowmaster, people want macros they can just SPAM |
| 15:37.11 | Arrowmaster | but that is a spamable macro |
| 15:37.25 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, but then it would waste mana |
| 15:37.40 | Neuro_Medivh | cause you'd keep recasting seal while judgement was up |
| 15:37.43 | JoshBorke | so? they want to spam, they can spam :-P |
| 15:37.48 | Neuro_Medivh | er, while judgement was on cd |
| 15:37.56 | Arrowmaster | are you sure? wouldnt it stop at the cooldown |
| 15:38.09 | Neuro_Medivh | Nope, Judgement has no GCD |
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| 15:38.23 | Neuro_Medivh | so it won't block Seal from recasting |
| 15:39.25 | Arrowmaster | i still find the specifics of what does and doesnt stop a macro when a spell fails to cast |
| 15:39.35 | Arrowmaster | hard to keep track of |
| 15:41.15 | Arrowmaster | ppppppppp |
| 15:41.59 | JoshBorke | Cide: morning |
| 15:45.41 | Cide | morning JoshBorke |
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| 16:04.39 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 16:04.46 | Cairenn|afk | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50987617&sid=1 |
| 16:05.39 | JoshBorke | =( wow ui designer creates awful XML. no offense to him or anything |
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| 16:11.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | who broke my wow wiki |
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| 16:13.23 | juju | it's broken? |
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| 16:23.09 | cogwheel | Heh... I feel like this is a spectator's sport: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50727651&sid=1 |
| 16:24.21 | Maldivia | well, I've given up on the tread |
| 16:24.43 | Maldivia | and afk |
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| 16:29.35 | Tem | Oh noes! |
| 16:29.47 | Tem | In losing all my open tabs, I also lost my place in QC |
| 16:29.50 | Tem | curses! |
| 16:30.08 | Tem | that's like losing your spot in a book with annoyingly hard to turn pages |
| 16:30.59 | cogwheel | what's a b...b...bo ook? |
| 16:34.25 | Cairenn|afk | cogwheel: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5747&highlight=book |
| 16:34.55 | cogwheel | My wife has a link to that in her sig on our guild forum :) |
| 16:45.33 | wereHamster | Cairenn|afk>, I don't quite agree with your statement for BOOKmarks: The number is limited only by the number of pages in the BOOK. |
| 16:45.43 | JoshBorke | over 2 |
| 16:45.46 | wereHamster | one can have ore than one bookmark between two pages |
| 16:45.52 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 16:46.01 | JoshBorke | by that logic it is an infinite amount |
| 16:46.04 | Cairenn|afk | I didn't make it up wereHamster, I just copied it |
| 16:46.23 | Cairenn|afk | because I've always liked it |
| 16:48.16 | wereHamster | Not infinite, JoshBorke, it's limited by the size of the spine |
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| 16:48.40 | JoshBorke | well, and the size of the bookmark. |
| 16:48.45 | wereHamster | yep :) |
| 16:57.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Maldivia, apparently I'm still grouped with you ... |
| 17:04.36 | jaxdahl | hmm |
| 17:04.45 | jaxdahl | they should call it something else so it isn't obvious at first |
| 17:04.50 | jaxdahl | like BOK or POOK |
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| 17:08.29 | SP|Sorren | any rogues here in beta? |
| 17:14.02 | VoidRaider | yeah Sorren I'm a rogue, you need anything ? |
| 17:14.16 | VoidRaider | Well I have a rogue :P |
| 17:19.03 | SP|Sorren | well i was wondering when you use a move that sucks away all your combo points |
| 17:19.11 | SP|Sorren | does UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED happen first |
| 17:19.19 | SP|Sorren | or does PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS happen first |
| 17:20.17 | jaxdahl | totally wild guess: spellcast succeded, then the client interprets that as CP removed |
| 17:22.07 | VoidRaider | hmm I'll try that in like 5 min |
| 17:22.17 | VoidRaider | and let you know exactly :) |
| 17:22.24 | jaxdahl | will Decursive retain its functionality out of combat? |
| 17:23.06 | pastamancer | no |
| 17:23.25 | jaxdahl | no? what would break? |
| 17:23.31 | VoidRaider | Hmm I don't really think it's that useful out of combat |
| 17:23.32 | pastamancer | you can't target units from lua, ever |
| 17:23.49 | jaxdahl | they removed non-secure targetting functions? |
| 17:24.33 | pastamancer | TargetUnit() is protected |
| 17:24.47 | jaxdahl | well we're out of combat |
| 17:24.55 | jaxdahl | so we should still be able to call it? |
| 17:25.23 | pastamancer | no, you can't call it out of combat either |
| 17:25.32 | pastamancer | I just tried on the beta server |
| 17:25.37 | jaxdahl | ok, thanks |
| 17:26.32 | pastamancer | you could approximate decursive's functionality by setting the unit attribute on a secure button |
| 17:27.21 | pastamancer | but decursive as it is now will not work |
| 17:29.36 | jaxdahl | pastamancer, how did you call TargetUnit() insecurely? |
| 17:29.41 | jaxdahl | ie, tainted |
| 17:30.27 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.46 | jaxdahl | "mouseover" is an unit? |
| 17:30.50 | pastamancer | yes |
| 17:31.08 | SP|Sorren | iriel's thread says targetting can only be called through secure templates, out of combat |
| 17:31.34 | jaxdahl | could hooksecurefunc be used? |
| 17:32.16 | pastamancer | hooksecurefunc is just a non-tainting post-hook |
| 17:32.23 | jaxdahl | isn't the use of /script tainting that function call? |
| 17:32.46 | pastamancer | anything that's not blizzard code is tainted |
| 17:33.14 | pastamancer | that means anything in an addon or anything in /script |
| 17:33.25 | jaxdahl | i still have a feeling you should be able to do what i want, out of combat |
| 17:33.43 | pastamancer | yes, with secure templates |
| 17:33.54 | pastamancer | and out of combat, like sorren said |
| 17:34.07 | jaxdahl | <pastamancer> you can't target units from lua, ever |
| 17:34.25 | jaxdahl | aren't you contradicting yourself now? |
| 17:34.57 | pastamancer | not really, the secure template is doing the targeting for you |
| 17:35.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | will for k,v in pairs(lol) do' go over each element in table lol ? |
| 17:35.12 | jaxdahl | and secure templates aren't a part of lua? |
| 17:35.13 | pastamancer | you can't ever call TargetUnit() directly |
| 17:35.32 | jaxdahl | well i'd be using CastSpellByName instead now, now that i think of it |
| 17:35.43 | jaxdahl | since it can specify units too now |
| 17:37.14 | pastamancer | if search ever starts working again on the blizzard forums, there's a thread that talks about doing what I think you want |
| 17:37.20 | jaxdahl | it does work |
| 17:37.25 | jaxdahl | what should i search for |
| 17:37.30 | pastamancer | PreClick |
| 17:38.06 | jaxdahl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34224257&postId=343214621&sid=1#12 |
| 17:38.18 | jaxdahl | perfect |
| 17:38.29 | jaxdahl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50897562&postId=508536881&sid=1#1 |
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| 17:39.35 | pastamancer | yeah, it doesn't target the unit directly, it tells the button who the target should be |
| 17:39.36 | jaxdahl | thanks for being patient with me, pastamancer |
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| 17:57.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO the ui realy surpises me now :( lol |
| 17:58.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | function ChatEdit_OnTabPressed() |
| 17:58.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | if ( this.chatType == "WHISPER" ) then |
| 17:58.35 | VoidRaider | Sorren as long as your cast succeeded UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED will be the first to be fired regardless to your combopoint. |
| 17:58.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | ^^ if u hook that this.chatType will be nil ... |
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| 18:02.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO no sh*t its moddified in last patch :( |
| 18:04.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | hi Cide welkome |
| 18:04.19 | Cide | hi |
| 18:04.26 | Cide | what brings me this honor? |
| 18:05.09 | jaxdahl | http://pubbies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6816 |
| 18:05.10 | jaxdahl | :D |
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| 18:05.48 | jaxdahl | that's me getting a recruit to post a screenshot of him completing a level of frogger |
| 18:06.01 | jaxdahl | to prove competence for running through the slimes in Naxx after patchwerk |
| 18:06.01 | |FF|Im2good4u | i need u to fix my ui ofc :P |
| 18:06.47 | Kirkburn|afk | jaxdahl, have to be registered |
| 18:06.52 | jaxdahl | darn. |
| 18:07.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | neh j/k ill try to fix it myzelf :P but i like your CTRA :P |
| 18:07.18 | jaxdahl | i told him to go here; http://www.neave.com/games/frogger/ |
| 18:07.33 | jaxdahl | and complete a level and post a screenshot |
| 18:07.33 | jaxdahl | and he did: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6906/froggoros8.png |
| 18:11.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Peasy :P |
| 18:14.48 | jaxdahl | will IsSpellInRange work correctly for spells with minimum range, if you are in the dead zone? |
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| 18:21.36 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:24.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys i hooked the ChatEdit_OnTabPressed() but can some1 try to explain me why this.chatType is nil ? it seems tobe used inside the normal blizzard core so why wont it work in my code ? |
| 18:29.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | or is that variable hidden for me ? |
| 18:30.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | it used to work in old wow :P |
| 18:32.26 | ckknight | for Beta? |
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| 18:46.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes fo beta |
| 18:50.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | i got to go now i gues ill ask again tomorrow :P or if any1 knows an anwer feel free to PM me |
| 18:50.58 | Corrodias | yeah, sorry, i have no idea, myself |
| 18:54.53 | JoshBorke | |FF|Im2good4u: you still here? |
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| 19:04.32 | Kaso | can you use ChatFrame_OnEvent hooks to supress messages in 2.0 without fucking with security |
| 19:04.52 | JoshBorke | i don't think so |
| 19:05.04 | JoshBorke | because it would taint the execution path of that messag |
| 19:05.43 | Kaso | howd you supress chat messages then |
| 19:05.58 | JoshBorke | but i think i'm wrong anyway |
| 19:06.02 | JoshBorke | look at AceComm |
| 19:06.28 | nevcairiel | i think you can use ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler or something like that |
| 19:07.11 | nevcairiel | dunno the exact name :D |
| 19:07.14 | Kaso | ah yes |
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| 19:44.55 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 20:05.46 | Cide | a bit of a self-promotion! |
| 20:06.06 | Cide | we just released http://www.ctscreens.net/ if you feel like checking it out |
| 20:06.14 | Cide | it's a wow screenshot hosting site |
| 20:07.28 | Kaso | not to quibble, but those thumbnails look sucky |
| 20:07.44 | Corrodias | like a vietnamese ho |
| 20:08.00 | Corrodias | just kidding |
| 20:08.33 | Corrodias | although personally i like slightly larger thumbnails with smaller border objects |
| 20:09.06 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.09 | Corrodias | and now i'm going [away] before anybody can argue. Royal Rainbow! |
| 20:09.25 | jaxdahl | make it flickr style |
| 20:09.28 | jaxdahl | er |
| 20:09.31 | jaxdahl | picasso (?) |
| 20:09.32 | Cide | looks fine to me, haven't had any complaints about them during beta testing, but I'll see what ts thinks |
| 20:10.08 | Industrial | Jeez. Witch Hunter Robin is a bit dull |
| 20:10.20 | Industrial | Seen 2 episodes now, should I watch all of it? |
| 20:10.38 | Industrial | I mean will it be more interesting later? |
| 20:11.01 | Industrial | or just an enemy per episode oh noes big guy dead the end? |
| 20:12.22 | VoidRaider | Awesome site :P |
| 20:12.37 | wereHamster | did anyone see WoW in wireframe mode? |
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| 20:14.22 | VoidRaider | A suggestion, I think you need to have a restrict size or resize it proportionally |
| 20:14.30 | Cide | VoidRaider: thanks :) |
| 20:14.36 | VoidRaider | np :) |
| 20:15.00 | VoidRaider | overall it's great in my opinion :P |
| 20:15.09 | Cide | VoidRaider: we played with it, but our resize code were too clunky |
| 20:15.14 | Cide | it might make a reappearance if we can fix it up |
| 20:15.32 | Cairenn|afk | Cide: cool |
| 20:15.46 | Cide | thanks Cairenn |
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| 20:25.27 | Xuerian | Ok, who/where should I go to for help with working around the now blizzard-addon-only "CloseLoot()" that's playing ragdoll with my code? >.< |
| 20:32.26 | ckknight | Xuerian, what're you trying to do with it? |
| 20:33.34 | Xuerian | Close loot. Since the loot frame calls CloseLoot() when it's hidden, it's somewhat difficult to overlay it with XLoot, and retain the ability to actually.. stop... looting |
| 20:34.23 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:34.38 | ckknight | maybe you could move the Bliz loot dialog off-screen? |
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| 20:36.22 | Xuerian | Perhaps. I could just hook & void LootFrame_Update() to prevent the majority of things happening, then, and retain it's ability to close loot. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll mess around with it. |
| 20:36.39 | Xuerian | It makes me wonder, though, why the restricted it |
| 20:36.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:37.06 | Xuerian | Might just post on the uimacro forum for curiosity :3 |
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| 20:50.57 | VoidRaider | Have they changed Flare ? :P |
| 20:52.17 | Xuerian | Hot damn, Slouken is like a ninja <_< |
| 20:52.23 | VoidRaider | I mean it looks like a faked effect of volcano or something, in short it looks really bad :P |
| 20:53.16 | VoidRaider | I don't care from it being visible to rogues, but they made the effect really crappy :P |
| 20:54.02 | VoidRaider | Not only you can use only 1 Flare at a time :D |
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| 20:56.23 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: what'd slouken do? |
| 20:56.35 | Xuerian | Replied in about two minutes. <.< |
| 20:56.38 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 20:56.58 | VoidRaider | haha :P |
| 20:57.40 | Xuerian | That's the upside. Downside is I'm not even going to try to bother working around it at the moment (CloseLoot() clears the target, which renders it protected), he said it was on his list for next week. |
| 20:59.33 | ag` | maintanks getting into the standard interface? |
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| 21:00.09 | nymbia | Xuerian: that bug will probably make it into 2.0.1 live :( |
| 21:01.28 | Xuerian | Unfortunately it might =\ |
| 21:01.30 | MentalPower | ~seen cogwheel |
| 21:01.55 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@c-67-188-231-45.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4h 27m ago, saying: 'My wife has a link to that in her sig on our guild forum :)'. |
| 21:02.59 | Xuerian | nymbia: But I've been working on it for far too long and way too much, I was going to drop my subscription tomorrow with what I thought was a successful first and final release... But eh, I get to stay around :P |
| 21:03.05 | TC_Sleeping | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51007966&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 21:04.00 | Thunder_Child | 04 /msg NickServ IDENTIFY01 lesel99 |
| 21:04.06 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 21:04.08 | SB1-Laptop | awesome |
| 21:04.21 | wereHamster | http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/wireframe.mp4 - wireframe of the login screen :) |
| 21:04.22 | SB1-Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.26 | SB1-Laptop | ^^ |
| 21:04.29 | Thunder_Child | cute |
| 21:04.30 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 21:04.44 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: Why don't you just /nickserv ident lesel99? :P |
| 21:05.03 | Thunder_Child | what i really need to do is get something other than trillian for my irc client |
| 21:05.16 | SB1-Laptop | I recommend http://www.hydrairc.com/ |
| 21:05.23 | SB1-Laptop | It's actually made in this century |
| 21:05.33 | SB1-Laptop | unlike mIRC |
| 21:05.39 | Xuerian | I used hydraIRC, it's nice, so long as you either compile it without or hex-edit out the quit messages |
| 21:05.42 | Thunder_Child | well trillian happens to be very very compact, and that is good |
| 21:07.02 | Xuerian | Trilly's IRC client should be fine if you give it a little loving :P |
| 21:07.02 | SB1-Laptop | Xuerian, or just specify a quit message ;) |
| 21:07.02 | Xuerian | SB1-Laptop: But that would require memory, which I lack |
| 21:07.03 | SB1-Laptop | Xuerian, /quit a |
| 21:07.03 | SB1-Laptop | tada! |
| 21:07.03 | Xuerian | SB1-Laptop: Yeah, I never do that, and always forgot when I tried to remember to :p |
| 21:07.03 | SB1-Laptop | hah |
| 21:07.03 | SB1-Laptop | Fair enough |
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| 21:09.10 | jaxdahl | Thunder_Child, you should be able to specify some commands to perform upon connecting to the server |
| 21:09.19 | Thunder_Child | it is |
| 21:09.29 | Thunder_Child | i dont have it for changing names though |
| 21:10.57 | jaxdahl | make an alias/ |
| 21:10.58 | jaxdahl | ? |
| 21:12.05 | Thunder_Child | ? indeed |
| 21:12.18 | VoidRaider | The way Hunters Flare look in the Beta |
| 21:12.19 | VoidRaider | http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flarevc5.jpg |
| 21:12.51 | Cairenn|afk | #635 - 687 just submitted to Blizz |
| 21:13.36 | Thunder_Child | nice VoidRaider, your making eggs...realy realy large eggs |
| 21:13.36 | Thunder_Child | sunny side up |
| 21:13.37 | VoidRaider | haha |
| 21:13.37 | Mikma | now that's a flare! |
| 21:14.00 | VoidRaider | Yeah well, want one for breakfast :P |
| 21:14.08 | Thunder_Child | and your burning around the edges so you might want to flip it |
| 21:14.25 | VoidRaider | rofl |
| 21:23.38 | Tuller | hrm, seems bag_update is called with arg0 whenever you move a bag now |
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| 21:27.00 | Thunder_Child | stupid fraling outlook |
| 21:27.04 | Thunder_Child | freaking* |
| 21:27.32 | Thunder_Child | it dropped by beta invitation for LoTR |
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| 21:31.45 | ckknight | t = [[ print("t = \091\091" .. t .. "\093\093; loadstring(t)()") ]]; loadstring(t)() |
| 21:33.12 | MentalPower | isin't that an infinite loop? |
| 21:33.29 | Cide | just prints it |
| 21:34.09 | cogwheel | quine? |
| 21:34.19 | ckknight | cogwheel's got it. |
| 21:34.19 | MentalPower | cogwheel! |
| 21:34.40 | cogwheel | I'm not the one who broke the forum... i swear... |
| 21:34.50 | Cide | uuh huh |
| 21:35.19 | ckknight | I wouldn't consider it a good quine, since it pollutes the global table and uses that as storage which the inner code executes |
| 21:37.16 | Cide | should've used HQ9+ instead |
| 21:39.13 | JoshBorke | wtf is a quine? |
| 21:39.30 | cogwheel | ~dict quine |
| 21:39.39 | MentalPower | http://www.nyx.net/~gthompso/self_lua.txt <---Written by the Lua god himself, looks a lot like ckk's |
| 21:40.00 | ckknight | that's a long last name |
| 21:40.06 | Thunder_Child | Queer User Instigating Noxious Examples = QUINE |
| 21:40.14 | ckknight | I'm working on one that doesn't pollute the global table. |
| 21:41.41 | ckknight | note: this is actually for a class |
| 21:42.24 | ckknight | back to the library. |
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| 21:42.47 | Thunder_Child | Quick Upload It Now Emo = QUINE | Quietly, Users In Native Enviornment = QUINE |
| 21:46.55 | Cairenn|afk | *blink* |
| 21:47.28 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: that last one could start a haiku... Quietly, users \n In native environment \n self printing program |
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| 21:48.22 | MentalPower | cogwheel: does your Lua distro nuke the dofile() function? |
| 21:48.23 | Thunder_Child | meh i never was fond of them |
| 21:48.34 | cogwheel | no... it leaves all libraries intact |
| 21:50.12 | MentalPower | nm, its my fault, forgot to save the file I was working with :P |
| 21:50.16 | MentalPower | ~lart me |
| 21:50.32 | cogwheel | heh |
| 21:53.49 | MentalPower | cogwheel: ok, next request. can you make the lua file loader ignore UTF-8 BOM's like WoW does? :) |
| 21:54.13 | cogwheel | hmmm... i'll see what i can do... |
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| 22:03.51 | JoshBorke | bb all |
| 22:05.17 | Cairenn|afk | later JoshBorke |
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| 22:10.25 | cogwheel | Hmm... Should i only care about UTF-8? |
| 22:11.03 | Cide | UTF-8 for web development makes me want to cry |
| 22:11.59 | MentalPower | I've never tried to use anything else other than UTF-8 with WoW |
| 22:12.05 | cogwheel | s/s.../s' BOMs/ |
| 22:12.22 | MentalPower | Cide: why? |
| 22:12.55 | Cide | MentalPower: because there is a lack of support, and you have to do tons of checking/converting/hacking to get it working |
| 22:13.37 | MentalPower | PHP6 looks promising |
| 22:14.48 | Cide | I swithced to python & django and I won't ever look back |
| 22:15.21 | MentalPower | I'll look at python one of these days |
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| 22:19.56 | Cide | you honestly should, it's heaven in a box compared to php |
| 22:22.02 | Kemayo | python has the best utf support for web development I've seen so far. It's definitely miles above php or ruby... |
| 22:25.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone have a druid on the beta servers? |
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| 22:27.59 | Guillotine | hmm. what was the command to show the praid menu again? |
| 22:28.09 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.49 | Mery | cogwheel: you are asking too much when you want htem to leave MC out of the discussion =) |
| 22:29.58 | Mery | them* |
| 22:30.01 | cogwheel | you mean the forums are working again? |
| 22:30.03 | cogwheel | XD |
| 22:30.19 | cogwheel | no matter... i'm absorbed in C atm... :P |
| 22:30.36 | Mery | haha |
| 22:31.14 | Inside | hmm |
| 22:31.14 | Mery | nobody answered after your post though, i'm just looking into the future =P |
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| 22:33.56 | Inside | I need to redo my game's kernel to act like a .. scheduler or something so I can have a frame limiter>_> |
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| 22:37.07 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/2897 |
| 22:37.32 | ckknight | ^--- quine |
| 22:37.55 | ckknight | Kemayo, actually, .NET/Java would probably have the best UTF support. |
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| 22:41.52 | cladhaire | yay for actually being connected this time |
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| 22:46.29 | Kemayo | ckknight: I shall rephrase that to "of those I have tried", then. :) |
| 22:46.39 | ckknight | alright then. |
| 22:46.46 | ckknight | Python's could _really_ be better |
| 22:46.52 | ckknight | Python 3k should fix that, though |
| 22:46.57 | ckknight | when it moves to UTF-16 natively |
| 22:47.10 | Guillotine | cladhaire: is there any documentation for PRaid? |
| 22:47.25 | cladhaire | what do you mean? |
| 22:47.30 | Guillotine | like, a list of commands |
| 22:47.42 | cladhaire | you could do /praid or /praid config |
| 22:47.51 | cladhaire | alternatively, just read PerfectRaidOptions.lua |
| 22:48.04 | Guillotine | thats what I do, but lots of people keep asking me about commands >< |
| 22:48.17 | Guillotine | if I write one up, will you put it on your author portal? it would make it much easier |
| 22:48.20 | cladhaire | absolutely |
| 22:48.24 | cladhaire | but it'll be changing soon =) |
| 22:48.26 | cladhaire | but yes. |
| 22:48.29 | Guillotine | ahh, true |
| 22:48.30 | Thunder_Child | tell them you will write it out for $$ |
| 22:48.46 | Guillotine | nah, I'm writing it out so people will stop bugging me for commands :P |
| 22:48.53 | cladhaire | i posted that on my addon page, that i barely have time to code for it, and if i spend time writing docs, then people won't get the new version =) |
| 22:49.10 | Guillotine | well, I'd be happy to document it. <3 praid |
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| 22:50.01 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:50.09 | cladhaire | good, i'll keep that in mind as i go through the recode. |
| 22:51.31 | jaxdahl | was 2 columns ever considered for praid? |
| 22:51.46 | cladhaire | you mean fully implemented and working on live? |
| 22:51.48 | cladhaire | yeah =) |
| 22:51.59 | jaxdahl | i haven't updated my praid in a while |
| 22:52.02 | cladhaire | but its going to regress for the BC rewrite. |
| 22:54.20 | jaxdahl | when you do your recode, how hard/easy would it be for someone to rewrite the display code to show/arrange the units however they like? |
| 22:54.54 | Guillotine | that was part of the most recent one on live too ;) |
| 22:54.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://i.somethingawful.com//sasbi/2006/11/abraham/caraudio.gif |
| 22:54.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh flagRSP-chan |
| 22:55.11 | Guillotine | well, not however they like, but by any order: "CLASS" "NAME" "GROUP", ect. |
| 22:55.24 | jaxdahl | like if they want to skin their frames |
| 22:55.40 | jaxdahl | or have warriors grouped together, separately from the main column |
| 22:55.48 | jaxdahl | on another part of the screen |
| 22:55.53 | jaxdahl | or 'pull out' a single unit |
| 22:56.12 | cogwheel | ... wowinterface not responding for anyone else? |
| 22:56.27 | jaxdahl | not responding. WoW-dotted? |
| 22:56.29 | Guillotine | nope, just stopped for me too |
| 22:56.36 | Guillotine | wait, now its working again |
| 22:56.39 | jaxdahl | wow forums aren't loading for me either |
| 22:56.43 | jaxdahl | yup, wowi just loaded |
| 22:56.46 | cogwheel | there we go... |
| 22:57.43 | Guillotine | thats the best flagrsp btw |
| 22:58.15 | cogwheel | MentalPower: just updated on wowi... |
| 22:59.26 | MentalPower | wohoo, thanks cogwheel |
| 22:59.40 | Cairenn|afk | and just approved |
| 22:59.47 | MentalPower | no where are the admi... right |
| 23:00.19 | MentalPower | morning Cair :) |
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| 23:00.58 | Cairenn|afk | been here all day |
| 23:01.00 | Norque | good morning |
| 23:01.07 | Cairenn|afk | hi Norque |
| 23:01.25 | clad|dinner | i love when someone reports a post on wowi |
| 23:01.27 | clad|dinner | and i get to ban people |
| 23:01.30 | clad|dinner | and i get to it before someone else. |
| 23:01.33 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 23:01.34 | clad|dinner | makes me feel like i won a race |
| 23:02.12 | Norque | I need some help with this state header stuff |
| 23:02.30 | SP|Sorren | okay, /petattack [exists,harm] is acting really weird |
| 23:02.31 | Cairenn|afk | it's fun banning people some times, isn't it? "hi, you're an asshole, go away!" |
| 23:02.50 | Cairenn|afk | and they do! |
| 23:02.54 | SP|Sorren | when i use it, sometimes cat will run off and attack mobs other than my target, and change my target to boot :/ |
| 23:03.10 | MentalPower | Cairenn|afk: just noticed you were here :) |
| 23:03.42 | Cairenn|afk | hrm, I'm still showing as afk? phooey |
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| 23:04.12 | MentalPower | :) |
| 23:05.04 | Guillotine | clad|dinner: I know how you feel. <3 banning people. Being a moderator on the WoW forums must be so awesome. its just like, BANBANBANBANBANBAN |
| 23:05.10 | clad|dinner | lol |
| 23:05.27 | Cairenn | Norque: what's the problem you are having with them? |
| 23:05.37 | MentalPower | is wowwiki.com down? |
| 23:05.38 | cogwheel | Guillotine: except when they can't log in... |
| 23:05.40 | cogwheel | XD |
| 23:05.50 | Guillotine | cogwheel: good point. but then they get paid for doing nothing! |
| 23:05.53 | Guillotine | its a win/win situation |
| 23:05.53 | cogwheel | MentalPower: i think there's a general wowdot effect going on right now... |
| 23:06.00 | MentalPower | lol |
| 23:06.29 | cogwheel | seriously... it seems like every site that's related to wow is being slow or not loading for me... even guildportal which isn't wow-specific... |
| 23:06.51 | Norque | I'm trying to have one button show when another is clicked. It works, but just hides again the next frame |
| 23:07.34 | Shadowed | Anyone mind logging onto Hellfire US Alliance quickly to invite? Was updating character gear |
| 23:07.41 | jaxdahl | cogwheel, TGIF is starting, WoW players that don't play during the week are just now starting to find out about 2.0 and looking around for info on it, including addons for it? |
| 23:07.52 | Cairenn | cogwheel: we aren't |
| 23:08.05 | cogwheel | Cairenn: you were for a minute there... |
| 23:08.28 | Guillotine | yup, wowi was down for a moment |
| 23:08.32 | jaxdahl | confirm |
| 23:08.37 | MentalPower | confirm |
| 23:08.51 | Cairenn | Dolby was testing something a while back |
| 23:08.54 | cogwheel | hey now... don't make her feel bad, guys :P |
| 23:08.54 | Cairenn | sorry, didn't mention it |
| 23:09.08 | MentalPower | just teasin :P |
| 23:09.20 | Cairenn | I knew we were gonna be down for a couple, but it wasn't going to be long so didn't fret about it |
| 23:09.20 | MentalPower | its was only for like 30secs or so anyways |
| 23:09.46 | Shadowed | Nevermind! someone who could invite logged in |
| 23:11.24 | jaxdahl | The first step to recovery is admitting you have an addiction to cough drops. |
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| 23:13.49 | Inside | You can melt those down and make meth |
| 23:13.50 | Inside | >_> |
| 23:15.11 | Antiarc | http://www.helenair.com/articles/2006/12/01/ap/headlines/d8lo1jlo2.txt |
| 23:15.13 | Antiarc | *headdesk* |
| 23:15.17 | Antiarc | Thank you, Sky Harbor. |
| 23:15.21 | Antiarc | <--- Phoenix resident |
| 23:16.06 | jaxdahl | i'm fine with that if it's a person in a remote location who can't see me in person |
| 23:17.34 | Antiarc | Until someone starts leaking the video onto the internet ;) |
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| 23:18.51 | Antiarc | How long until someone puts together a "Biggest dongs of Sky Harbor" compiliation and anonymously leaks it online? I mean, with today's tech, it's not even a stretch. |
| 23:19.04 | Norque | note to self: state headers dont like xml buttons for some reason |
| 23:19.24 | ckknight | cogwheel, http://ace.pastey.net/2905 |
| 23:20.41 | jaxdahl | Antiarc, who cares? they still won't be able to identify you |
| 23:20.54 | ckknight | local t = [[print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t)]]; print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t) |
| 23:20.56 | ckknight | there it is |
| 23:21.04 | jaxdahl | quine? |
| 23:21.31 | ckknight | yep, jaxdahl |
| 23:21.51 | ckknight | came up with that one. It was originally like 50 lines long |
| 23:21.53 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:24.16 | jaxdahl | confirm, it is a correct quine. |
| 23:24.44 | jaxdahl | Lua 4.0.1 Copyright (C) 1994-2000 TeCGraf, PUC-Rio |
| 23:24.44 | jaxdahl | > local t = [[print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t)]]; print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t) |
| 23:24.44 | jaxdahl | local t = [[print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t)]]; print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t) |
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| 23:40.08 | ckknight | why is he using lua 4.0.1? |
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| 23:45.34 | Shadowed | can't use a ToT mod that repositions at the bottom of buffs anymore |
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| 23:52.33 | Norque | could someone take a look at http://wowi.pastey.net/2909 and see what i |
| 23:52.43 | Norque | i'm doing wrong? |
| 23:53.19 | Norque | the buttons dont seem to want to change state sometimes |
