| 00:00.17 | abug | you used xml and made your lua code feel jealous |
| 00:02.17 | abug | zomg it's cide |
| 00:03.01 | Kaso | zomg :> |
| 00:03.03 | abug | zomg he's a guy |
| 00:03.07 | Kaso | he sounds like a nerd! |
| 00:03.26 | Kaso | (says the person whos on irc at 12:00 on friday :< |
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| 00:06.28 | Kaso | ~seen Cide |
| 00:06.49 | purl | cide is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 23m 1s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 1h 46m 53s, last said: 'you honestly should, it's heaven in a box compared to php'. |
| 00:09.13 | SP|Sorren | any rogues here in beta? |
| 00:10.51 | Kaso | i could ask someone if its a simple question |
| 00:11.18 | SP|Sorren | i need to check the sequencing of events :o |
| 00:11.33 | Garoun|Loupana | what changed with the frame objects in the patch yesterday on beta? |
| 00:11.42 | Garoun|Loupana | trying to find it but can't :/ |
| 00:11.57 | MentalPower | something changed? |
| 00:12.09 | Drew` | When I use frame:SetScale it also moves my frame. Is there an easy way to prevent that? |
| 00:12.22 | SP|Sorren | it shouldnt |
| 00:12.23 | VoidRaider | Sorren what events ? |
| 00:12.37 | SP|Sorren | PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS and UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 00:13.05 | VoidRaider | I think I answered that one :P |
| 00:13.23 | SP|Sorren | you never said |
| 00:13.30 | VoidRaider | I did :/ |
| 00:13.41 | MentalPower | Drew`: depends on where its anchored, the edges (or sides) that are not anchored to will move |
| 00:13.43 | VoidRaider | Anyway .. |
| 00:14.30 | SP|Sorren | last i saw from you you said you were going to try in 5 min ;p |
| 00:14.36 | SP|Sorren | guess i missed the answer :/ |
| 00:14.39 | VoidRaider | haha 1 sec :P |
| 00:15.20 | SP|Sorren | bah |
| 00:15.24 | SP|Sorren | i keep getting into the arena alone |
| 00:15.26 | SP|Sorren | :( |
| 00:16.29 | VoidRaider | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED will be fired first as long as you succeeded to cast the spell regardless to the combopoints |
| 00:16.48 | SP|Sorren | i see |
| 00:16.51 | Kaso | man this background music is amusing. |
| 00:17.44 | SP|Sorren | Arena Perparation should regen pet happiness :/ |
| 00:23.52 | Kaso | listening to cide reminds me of my old guild |
| 00:23.57 | Kaso | was like 90% sweedes |
| 00:24.01 | abug | this music hurts me |
| 00:24.26 | Neebler | What music? |
| 00:24.35 | Kaso | on wowradio |
| 00:24.50 | Kaso | "White Zombie - I Zombie" |
| 00:24.51 | abug | they're interviewing cide |
| 00:25.04 | Neebler | ohh shoutcast url? |
| 00:25.10 | Neebler | nm I'll google it |
| 00:25.34 | Kaso | http://wcradio.com:8000/ |
| 00:26.09 | Neebler | ugh bad codec |
| 00:26.14 | Neebler | bitrate rather |
| 00:26.41 | Neebler | http://goodblimey.com/tunes/ there's some better music :P |
| 00:27.00 | Kaso | Cide tthough! |
| 00:27.19 | Kaso | voice levels little low there |
| 00:28.21 | Kaso | God, what really annoys me is addons that dont use the Default color codes |
| 00:28.30 | Kaso | for like classes |
| 00:30.41 | SP|Sorren | wry do you hate me beta forums :( |
| 00:30.41 | Cairenn | yay! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKI3PmiRYGM&mode=related&search= |
| 00:30.58 | Drew` | MentalPower: Every edge of my frame moves when I change its scale. Could this be caused by it being movable? |
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| 00:35.46 | Drew` | I have a frame that is movable. After being dragged when I change the scale of the frame the entire frame moves. I would like a corner of the frame to stay in place when I scale it. Is there an easy way to prevent this? |
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| 00:37.30 | Tem | you have to re-anchor every time you scale |
| 00:37.37 | Tem | it's the nature of the beast |
| 00:38.00 | Drew` | If the frame is moveable, what would I re-anchor it to? |
| 00:38.22 | Drew` | still the orgional anchor I am assuming. |
| 00:40.18 | Drew` | hmm, how would I re-anchor it with keeping the position it was dragged to? the only command I know to anchor somthing is using SetPoint. |
| 00:41.24 | Drew` | and using SetPoint would reset it's position I think. |
| 00:42.35 | Kaso | haha wtf |
| 00:42.42 | Kaso | GM question :> |
| 00:43.17 | abug | o.0 |
| 00:43.32 | abug | report that GM for slacking on the job |
| 00:44.24 | ckknight | Cairenn, http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7059 and http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7057 are the same posting, only in two different places |
| 00:44.59 | Cairenn | thanks ckknight |
| 00:45.26 | ckknight | he's also posted other things |
| 00:45.43 | ckknight | along the same exact lines |
| 00:46.16 | Cairenn | yeah, cleaning up his mess |
| 00:47.14 | Neebler | who is this other guy speaking now? |
| 00:47.26 | abug | cad? I think? |
| 00:47.53 | abug | he's the host of the show |
| 00:48.04 | Neebler | oh ok, never listened before |
| 00:48.53 | Neebler | I'd like to hear an interview with lozareth and the main ACE2 authors :P |
| 00:49.12 | Neebler | ...argueing |
| 00:49.34 | ckknight | oh, it's not fun |
| 00:49.42 | ckknight | and it's Ace, not ACE |
| 00:49.48 | ckknight | Ace is not an acronym. |
| 00:49.55 | Neebler | ok cKKnIgHt |
| 00:50.02 | ckknight | ... |
| 00:50.24 | Neebler | :D |
| 00:50.31 | abug | wow he waved while talking |
| 00:50.57 | Cide | it's buffered I believe, I'm actually not talking right now! |
| 00:51.16 | abug | ah, you don't give yourself enough credit |
| 00:51.18 | ckknight | what're you guys talking about, btw? |
| 00:51.38 | Cide | everything and nothing, pretty much |
| 00:52.35 | Tain | Ace Ace baby... dum dum dum dum dum de dum dum |
| 00:52.41 | ckknight | lol |
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| 00:58.07 | ckknight | (I can hear you) |
| 00:59.01 | Kaso | quick try and make him laugh |
| 00:59.05 | Kaso | orr! |
| 00:59.16 | ckknight | are you nervous? |
| 00:59.24 | Kaso | Cide you mission is to fit the word "Elephant" into this interview |
| 00:59.31 | ckknight | oh please. |
| 00:59.42 | ckknight | how'd Cide get on there? |
| 01:00.00 | cogwheel | ? |
| 01:00.12 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: heya |
| 01:00.14 | Cide | ckknight: a bit, but not that |
| 01:00.17 | Cide | that much |
| 01:00.17 | [Liquidor] | you know the episode Seinfield? |
| 01:00.33 | ckknight | Cide, (I meant from the touching) |
| 01:00.35 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:00.47 | Cide | oh! |
| 01:00.49 | Cide | yes, definitely |
| 01:00.52 | Cide | I am scared, very scared |
| 01:00.57 | ckknight | Cide, hehe. |
| 01:01.29 | Neebler | Grid? that's allready an addon :P |
| 01:02.07 | [Liquidor] | Woah I'm playing on the PTR atm and added a package of Ace Addons for the PTR (should be working), but all I got was errors from all the Ace Libs conserned the setn() func :) |
| 01:02.28 | [Liquidor] | Anyways, ckknight you know the seinfield episode? |
| 01:02.37 | ckknight | [Liquidor], no, don't think so. |
| 01:02.42 | abug | cide has a hot voice |
| 01:02.44 | abug | that is all |
| 01:02.52 | [Liquidor] | arh too bad :-/ |
| 01:03.29 | ckknight | I have a good voice ;-) |
| 01:03.48 | MentalPower | Drew`: you can figure out the position of the frame after moving and do a setpoint call using that info |
| 01:04.44 | Cairenn | a link *would* be a nice thing ..... |
| 01:04.44 | MentalPower | the frame will prolly move by a small fraction, but should generally stay in the right spot |
| 01:04.54 | cogwheel | woot! I'm on the first page of google search results for "cogwheel" |
| 01:05.04 | cogwheel | Cairenn too :) |
| 01:05.07 | abug | lawl |
| 01:05.16 | Cairenn | me too what too huh? |
| 01:05.20 | Gryphen | with personalized search off? |
| 01:05.24 | MentalPower | so am I for mentalpower |
| 01:05.33 | MentalPower | not the first, but quite close to it |
| 01:05.50 | abug | oh cairenn: http://www.wcradio.com |
| 01:05.52 | cogwheel | iriel's the second result |
| 01:06.02 | ckknight | I'm the whole first page for ckknight. |
| 01:06.30 | Cairenn | well, I don't want to be taking space from my namesake, she is by far more famous than I am |
| 01:06.40 | Drew` | MentalPower: I tried using GetTop and GetLeft and then after the scale, and then anchoring TopLeft to UIParent BottomLeft with those offsets, but it still moved in the same way. A strange thing is GetTop and GetLeft had the same values after the scale as they did before, but the frame definently appeared to move. |
| 01:06.53 | Tain | What's more interesting is doing it with Google Image Search. |
| 01:07.34 | ckknight | Cide, say one of my mods! |
| 01:07.40 | Cide | :) |
| 01:07.55 | Tain | Say my mod, bitch! |
| 01:07.57 | cogwheel | Neither of the listen links are working for me... :( |
| 01:07.59 | ckknight | spread the love for FuBar |
| 01:08.04 | Neebler | the original raid assist addon |
| 01:08.06 | cogwheel | what progs play .pls? |
| 01:08.12 | Neebler | I forget the author or what it was called |
| 01:08.13 | abug | winamp works for me |
| 01:08.24 | abug | but not windows media player |
| 01:08.24 | Gryphen | screamer works for me |
| 01:08.40 | Tain | Woah I found a picture of ckknight. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://nia.ecsu.edu/ureoms2003/images/students/knight.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nia.ecsu.edu/ureoms2003/teams.html&h=100&w=100&sz=5&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=fZuSqR_ZIlDRuM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dckknight%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG |
| 01:09.01 | ckknight | no, I'm quite white. |
| 01:09.04 | cogwheel | lol |
| 01:09.09 | MentalPower | Drew`: out of curiosity, what happens if you delay the query and setpoint by a frame or two? |
| 01:09.19 | Tain | I suppose this is a shorter URL. |
| 01:09.19 | MentalPower | cogwheel: winamp |
| 01:09.21 | Tain | http://nia.ecsu.edu/ureoms2003/teams.html |
| 01:09.27 | Tain | email addresses don't lie! |
| 01:09.43 | Cairenn | Cide: oh my! *fans herself* |
| 01:09.46 | Cairenn | what a voice! |
| 01:09.52 | ckknight | lol, Cairenn |
| 01:10.09 | Cairenn | mmmm, talk dirty mod talk to me baby! |
| 01:10.22 | MentalPower | rofl! |
| 01:10.22 | Neebler | http://neebler.tetro.net/images/raidassist.jpg what was the name of that old raid assist addon? it was the first of its kind and out before ct_ra |
| 01:10.48 | Neebler | I remember my guild put up such a fuss switching from that to ct_ra |
| 01:10.49 | Cairenn | *tries to see if she can make him laugh out loud in the middle of the interview* |
| 01:11.07 | Cairenn | oh yes, exe files *pant* |
| 01:11.12 | Gryphen | there was RaidMinion |
| 01:11.46 | MentalPower | oh he mentioned WoWI |
| 01:11.53 | ckknight | MentalPower, a few times now |
| 01:12.12 | abug | ~cide |
| 01:12.18 | purl | cide is probably the developer of the CT mods |
| 01:12.32 | Tain | I wonder if he's using the same wind we are using. |
| 01:12.33 | Cairenn | tell me more about your "zip" files Cide, oh yes, yes YES! |
| 01:13.05 | Cide | Cairenn: wait until tonight |
| 01:13.09 | ckknight | lol, Cairenn |
| 01:14.01 | cogwheel | the host is very quiet... |
| 01:14.30 | abug | he's afraid of cide |
| 01:14.35 | ckknight | I find some of Cide's pronunciations funny. |
| 01:14.41 | ckknight | no offense |
| 01:14.50 | cogwheel | slow-kin? |
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| 01:14.58 | ckknight | yea, I call him Sloo-kin |
| 01:14.59 | abug | people on the wowradio irc think he's finnish |
| 01:15.03 | Inside | oom-kin! |
| 01:15.07 | Cide | I'm a swede! |
| 01:15.08 | cogwheel | me too... but only 'cause i took french |
| 01:15.12 | Gryphen | sounds like he is sucking on a cough drop |
| 01:15.12 | ckknight | Cide, oh noes! |
| 01:15.14 | Cairenn | I'm gathering that it's taped? |
| 01:15.16 | ckknight | my world is shattered |
| 01:15.23 | Cide | Cairenn: no, it's live |
| 01:15.33 | ckknight | though that makes sense, with some of your pronunciations. |
| 01:15.39 | Tain | Cide lip-synchs? |
| 01:15.45 | Cairenn | and we *aren't* managing to make you laugh? guess I'll just have to work harder |
| 01:15.49 | ckknight | I speak like an American. ;-) |
| 01:16.11 | zenzelezz | don't worry ckknight, we still like you |
| 01:16.16 | Tain | What's that all aboot then? |
| 01:16.22 | ckknight | it's not aboot |
| 01:16.27 | ckknight | it's aboat. |
| 01:16.42 | ckknight | lousy Newfie |
| 01:16.44 | abug | this music makes me hurt |
| 01:16.50 | ckknight | agree |
| 01:17.17 | wereHamster | will cide sound like a gnome, too, like the guys in the last 'User Interface' podcast? |
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| 01:17.38 | zenzelezz | nah, he's more of a goblin |
| 01:17.38 | Cide | I am a gnome |
| 01:17.41 | Cairenn | wtf is this music? lord |
| 01:17.50 | Maldivia | ... muskc? |
| 01:17.53 | MentalPower | someone likes heavy metal |
| 01:18.22 | cogwheel | my ipod has everything from Korn to Beethoven & ABBA to Green Day |
| 01:18.29 | Cairenn | I like metal just fine, this is ... o.O |
| 01:19.12 | zenzelezz | I never heard the Beethoven & ABBA duo, must be interesting |
| 01:19.12 | MentalPower | irc://irc.wowirc.com/wowradio <---Go ask questions, or just invade the channel :P |
| 01:19.38 | cogwheel | s/ &/, &/ |
| 01:19.44 | cogwheel | :P |
| 01:19.49 | abug | mass suiCIDE pact in wowradio room in 1 minute |
| 01:20.23 | Cairenn | shame on us? lol, they have NO idea |
| 01:20.57 | Maldivia | well, my mp3 player just switched to Mad World... |
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| 01:22.25 | wereHamster | Unable to connect server irc.wowirc.com port 6667 [No route to host] - I'm just stupid at using IRC |
| 01:22.57 | Cairenn | useless? far from it! I use /hail to help point my group/raid to which mod I want taken out next |
| 01:23.02 | Drew` | MentalPower: Can I ask for your help in a pm? |
| 01:23.53 | MentalPower | you can, but I prefer the public channel since other people can chip in |
| 01:24.18 | Kaso | Shadowpriests suck imo! |
| 01:24.35 | cogwheel | 1+1=7 imo |
| 01:25.11 | wereHamster | for _very_ big values of 1 |
| 01:25.25 | Cairenn | god, what sort of a stupid ass question was that? |
| 01:25.27 | cogwheel | Rounded up to the nearest 7... |
| 01:25.34 | MentalPower | I asked it :P |
| 01:25.43 | MentalPower | [21:21:57]<MentalPower>Hey cide, what other addons do you use? <hint, hint> |
| 01:25.59 | Cairenn | the part that was stupid was "do you use your own" |
| 01:26.00 | cogwheel | gotta go... 'till later (maybe :P ) |
| 01:26.00 | Cairenn | well, duh |
| 01:26.04 | Cairenn | later cogwheel |
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| 01:26.35 | Cairenn | any author that doesn't use their own mods, is an author that is in the process of burning out, because they've stopped writing for themselves |
| 01:27.08 | Cairenn | get in this channel! |
| 01:27.12 | wereHamster | Cairenn, you've just described me :-/ |
| 01:27.35 | Tain | Get in muh belly! |
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| 01:30.04 | Cairenn | but join this channel to help get the support! |
| 01:30.52 | ckknight | support with what? |
| 01:31.05 | Gryphen | writing addons |
| 01:31.09 | Gryphen | what he is talking about |
| 01:32.16 | Maldivia | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=362060734527062487 ... been a long time since I saw that one :) |
| 01:32.47 | ckknight | good talk, Cide |
| 01:32.54 | Cairenn | good job Cide :) |
| 01:32.59 | Cide | despite my mispronunciations? ;) |
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| 01:33.17 | Drew` | I have an addon that has a movable frame. when I scale the movable frame, it also moves the frame. How do I prevent a movable frame from moving when you change its scale? |
| 01:33.24 | Neebler | Cide you should link to www.ctscreens.net on the ctprofiles.net mainpage somewhere. I Randomly came across it in the ctprofiles.net forums |
| 01:33.40 | ckknight | Drew`, frame:StopMovingOrScaling() frame:SetScale(...) |
| 01:34.11 | Cide | yeah, good idea Neebler |
| 01:34.12 | Neebler | omg I'm a moron. it's in the news post |
| 01:34.18 | Maldivia | ckknight: I think his problem is, when he applies the scale, it moves the frame, since the coordinates are now in a different scale |
| 01:34.31 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:34.40 | Maldivia | ckknight: 100x100 is not the same spot at scale 0 as on scale 0.5 |
| 01:34.46 | ckknight | well, for Cartographer, what I do is take the position of the center, scale it, and reposition. |
| 01:35.02 | Maldivia | that's how I do aswell, in one of my addons... |
| 01:35.09 | ckknight | wait, no, actually, I reposition when the map is dropped |
| 01:35.15 | ckknight | so that its point is in the center |
| 01:35.19 | ckknight | instead of the topleft |
| 01:35.23 | Tain | ~vizzini |
| 01:35.27 | purl | Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips? |
| 01:35.27 | ckknight | makes scaling _much_ smoother |
| 01:35.48 | Drew` | ckknight: "StopMovingOrScaling()" do you mean "StopMovingOrSizing()"? |
| 01:36.01 | ckknight | that's it. |
| 01:37.17 | Drew` | ckknight: that did not prevent the frame from moving. |
| 01:38.01 | ckknight | what do you mean, then? |
| 01:38.19 | ckknight | scaling moves the position of your frame, instead of just making it bigger? |
| 01:38.24 | Maldivia | Drew`: you need to get the position, resize, and the re set the position with the new scale |
| 01:38.27 | Drew` | yes. It makes it bigger, and moves it. |
| 01:38.44 | Kaso | man heroic mode is hard |
| 01:38.45 | ckknight | what I do is make sure to do :SetPoint of its CENTER to the right positon |
| 01:38.57 | ckknight | that way, scaling makes the sides bigger equally |
| 01:39.04 | ckknight | with the center being in the same place |
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| 01:39.35 | Maldivia | ckknight: the problem is, for moveable frames, they are TOPLEFT anchored by the UI code, when layout-cache is loaded |
| 01:39.48 | ckknight | Maldivia, that's why you reposition OnDragStop |
| 01:40.37 | Maldivia | well, I just made a method, that recalculated the new topleft coord, from the old scale vs the new scale, and the set the point after I scaled |
| 01:42.24 | Drew` | ckknight: can you help me write that... I have "local c = frame:GetCenter();frame:SetScale(2);frame:SetPoint(WHAT_TO_PUT_HERE?);" |
| 01:42.42 | ckknight | let's look in Cartographer. |
| 01:43.14 | ckknight | Drew`, http://ace.pastey.net/2913 |
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| 01:47.00 | Maldivia | Drew: or try something like: http://wowi.pastey.net/2914 |
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| 01:51.09 | Drew` | Thank you. that second example was exactly what I needed. |
| 01:52.03 | Drew` | Just to completley understand, what is the purpose of "frame:SetUserPlaced(true);"? |
| 01:53.34 | Maldivia | tells the UI, that it was user placed, and that it should save it's location in it's layout-cache file, for next time you log on |
| 01:54.58 | Drew` | Does this also happen "magically" when you use "StartMoving()" and "StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 01:55.00 | MentalPower | note, that doesn't work for frames owned by LoD addons |
| 01:55.41 | Maldivia | Drew: yes |
| 01:55.58 | Maldivia | MentalPower: well, it does if the LOD addon is loaded, before the cache is read :) |
| 01:56.26 | Maldivia | Drew: or well, it did last time I checked :9 |
| 01:56.29 | MentalPower | and how many LoD's do that? |
| 01:56.43 | Maldivia | MentalPower: half the blizzard addons :) |
| 01:56.58 | Maldivia | or well, they did at one point :) |
| 01:57.24 | beastathon | Hello. I'm trying to figure out how to get a frame to appear when I move my cursor over a button, then when it leaves, the frame disapeers. I've looked around other Addons and WoWs addons, but I since I dont know much, I dont understand. Ive seen the tooltip, and tooltip:hidem but I dont really understand it, some help please? :) |
| 01:57.31 | MentalPower | load before the cache is read? I don't think so, unless you use them as req deps in non LoD's |
| 01:58.46 | Maldivia | beastathon: you want to add OnEnter and OnLeave script handlers to your button, and from those functions, show/hide the frame in question |
| 01:59.22 | beastathon | Ahk, I know about the OnEnter and OnLeave, i just dont know how to show or hide the frames |
| 01:59.32 | Maldivia | frameName:Show() |
| 01:59.35 | Maldivia | frameName:Hide() |
| 01:59.37 | MentalPower | frame:Show(), frame:Hide() |
| 01:59.45 | MentalPower | bah, I'm slow |
| 01:59.48 | Maldivia | very straight forward :) |
| 01:59.53 | beastathon | So, can I: |
| 02:00.25 | beastathon | can you have two </frame> tags? |
| 02:01.05 | beastathon | I mean, so that I could create the frames first, then whenever my cursor goes over, it would show that perticular frame |
| 02:03.19 | Maldivia | you should be able to do that, yes |
| 02:03.26 | beastathon | k, thanks :) |
| 02:03.44 | MentalPower | <Scripts> <OnEnter> SomeFrame:Show() </OnEnter> <OnLeave> SomeFrame:Hide() </OnLeave> </Scripts> |
| 02:03.51 | Garoun|Loupana | ah coool, they fixed long capes |
| 02:03.52 | beastathon | Thanks |
| 02:04.19 | VoidRaider | Night guys :) |
| 02:04.43 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm is it just me or does the female be model look slimmer |
| 02:04.43 | beastathon | do I put the <scripts> in the <button> and </button> ? |
| 02:04.56 | MentalPower | yep |
| 02:04.59 | beastathon | thanks |
| 02:06.09 | Garoun|Loupana | I actually think they did clean up the BE Female model some |
| 02:06.22 | wereHamster | '<OnEnter> SomeFrame:Show() </OnEnter>' - will that work on a hidden frame? |
| 02:06.23 | Garoun|Loupana | she looks more natural. aka humanish |
| 02:07.00 | Drew` | When you clear all points, will the frame have any predictable position? |
| 02:08.02 | VoidRaider|sleep | Drew, nop. |
| 02:08.04 | Maldivia | when you clear all points, they are not anchored to annything, and does not appear on the screen |
| 02:08.29 | Drew` | thanks. |
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| 02:10.32 | beastathon | For my second frame, would I just put it as: |
| 02:10.32 | Tuller | Frames can still appear on screen with all points cleared, if they were somewhere previously. They won't accept any mouse events or anything, though |
| 02:10.50 | beastathon | <Frame =blahkah> <size> etc </frame> without anything else in it? |
| 02:10.59 | beastathon | or do I need to put </frame> at the end? |
| 02:13.27 | MentalPower | it has to be valid XML |
| 02:14.31 | beastathon | yeh |
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| 02:21.31 | beastathon | argh, im not sure where to put the <frame> |
| 02:21.36 | beastathon | the second one |
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| 02:38.56 | Kaso | Hard mode is fun ! |
| 02:40.27 | Tain | So the Lord of the Rings Online game doesn't screw around with what people are going to be looking for. One of the starting areas has Gandalf, and all the dwarves from the Hobbit. |
| 02:40.39 | Tain | Another starts out with a Ringwraith looking for Bagginses. |
| 02:40.58 | Inside | wow. |
| 02:40.58 | Inside | gay |
| 02:41.07 | zenzelezz | all the dwarves? |
| 02:41.17 | zenzelezz | even those that died? |
| 02:41.27 | Inside | Yes why not |
| 02:41.30 | Inside | it's an anachronism anyway |
| 02:41.35 | Tain | I'm going to guess no, I didn't go around counting them. |
| 02:41.53 | Tain | And I don't really know exactly where in the timeline the game takes place. |
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| 02:43.06 | Maldivia | According to the initial post from the developers, the timeline is just after frodo left |
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| 02:46.43 | chuckg | But Gandalf hung around in their version. |
| 02:46.59 | chuckg | What if someone sploits the Sauron first day of release? End of the game. |
| 02:47.00 | Tain | Yeah well he's a dirty old man. |
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| 03:08.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Yarrr! 67 :) |
| 03:08.51 | cladhaire | grats! |
| 03:09.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks =) |
| 03:09.28 | jaxdahl | wow i'm 51 prot on the PTR |
| 03:09.35 | jaxdahl | me and this paladin dueld for 10 minutes |
| 03:09.45 | jaxdahl | without eithe rside getting an advantage |
| 03:11.15 | jaxdahl | then we started again, autoattacking only with just seals/judgements |
| 03:11.33 | jaxdahl | i won, 75% to 0% |
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| 03:20.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Grats? :P |
| 03:21.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, here's a flight path NOT to take |
| 03:21.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Cosmowrench to the Altar of Sha'tar |
| 03:21.50 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll be seeing land in about 20 mins then ... |
| 03:22.15 | Kirkburn|afk | (well, I can *see* land, but I won't be on it for a while) |
| 03:22.25 | zenzelezz | only five minutes more than Winterspring->Silithus |
| 03:22.33 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
| 03:25.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Argh, and I'm flying*over* Shattrath, it's like flying thru IF all over again |
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| 03:31.13 | Garoun|Loupana | I just got roffled by a guy in Shadowmoon Valley that rides a nether drake and Dual Wields Thunderfuries :P |
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| 03:32.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1650174&sid=1 |
| 03:33.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | BLAHAHA |
| 03:33.22 | wuwu | Hi, anyone around for a quick question? |
| 03:33.44 | Cide | ask first, ask to ask later |
| 03:34.16 | wuwu | I want to use a variable frame name and use methods on it |
| 03:34.18 | wuwu | like I have |
| 03:34.25 | wuwu | local oldFrameName = "PartyMemberFrame" .. tostring(player); |
| 03:34.31 | wuwu | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(oldFrameName:GetLeft()); |
| 03:34.36 | wuwu | but it won't let me do that |
| 03:34.38 | wuwu | :( |
| 03:37.45 | Guillotine | do local oldFrameName = getglobal("PartyMemberFrame"..tostring(player)); |
| 03:38.03 | wuwu | ahhh |
| 03:38.05 | wuwu | ty sir |
| 03:38.19 | Guillotine | np :) |
| 03:39.29 | Guillotine | btw, isn't the partymember frame's GetLeft just the player's name? |
| 03:39.35 | Guillotine | or am I remembering incorectly? |
| 03:41.01 | wuwu | hmm |
| 03:41.03 | wuwu | is it? |
| 03:41.37 | wuwu | i want to move the entire group member frame |
| 03:41.51 | wuwu | for one person |
| 03:42.45 | Guillotine | oh, nm, I was thinking of how item tooltips work |
| 03:42.55 | Guillotine | and its not GetLeft, just something similar |
| 03:47.50 | wuwu | ok ty |
| 03:50.29 | wuwu | this wowbench is handy |
| 03:52.44 | Guillotine | wowbench? |
| 03:53.07 | Guillotine | ah, just found it on the wiki |
| 03:53.11 | wuwu | yea |
| 03:53.12 | Guillotine | never seen that before o.O interesting |
| 03:53.56 | wuwu | so does that GetGlobal("frame") give me back a frame object? |
| 03:56.44 | Guillotine | because lua does not have variable types, it just finds the variable "frame". And if you have the right thing, that will actually be a frame |
| 03:56.48 | Guillotine | and make sure you don't use caps |
| 03:56.51 | Guillotine | just getglobal |
| 03:57.43 | wuwu | i hate not having variable types |
| 03:57.45 | wuwu | :( |
| 04:00.10 | Guillotine | why? I really like it |
| 04:00.16 | Guillotine | makes it much easier imo |
| 04:00.39 | wuwu | makes it easier yea |
| 04:00.47 | wuwu | but u never know what kind youre working with |
| 04:01.24 | Guillotine | you can check the type |
| 04:01.48 | wuwu | yea i mean just by looking at the code |
| 04:02.00 | wuwu | what did I mess up ? I had it working |
| 04:02.03 | wuwu | local newFrame = getglobal("PartyMemberFrame" .. tostring(newSpot)); |
| 04:02.21 | wuwu | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(newFrame:GetRight()) |
| 04:02.33 | Guillotine | getting any error? |
| 04:02.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone have a druid on the beta realm? :O |
| 04:02.39 | Guillotine | me |
| 04:02.40 | Guillotine | 2 |
| 04:02.48 | Guillotine | feral on pvp server, balance on pve |
| 04:03.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | can you read the mangle tooltip off for me for cat and bear? are they still 30% to bleeds and shred? |
| 04:03.09 | wuwu | attempt to index local newFrame nil |
| 04:03.24 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies: it was as of earlier today |
| 04:03.58 | Guillotine | wuwu: why are you using newSpot? Don't you just want the number of the player? (e.g. 1-4) |
| 04:04.28 | wuwu | i have the player |
| 04:04.32 | wuwu | i want to get info about his frame |
| 04:04.36 | wuwu | like coords |
| 04:04.50 | Guillotine | what exactly is the variable 'newSpot'? |
| 04:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay guillo |
| 04:05.04 | wuwu | a number 1-4 |
| 04:05.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | because uh the patch notes said that bear was doing 25% |
| 04:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i was worried they renerfed it |
| 04:05.45 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies: no, pretty sure its still 30%. I can check quickly though |
| 04:06.01 | Guillotine | hmm. wowbench isn't working for me. says that wow.exe isn't a valid win32 app |
| 04:06.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | check em both for me if you don't mind while you're there |
| 04:06.25 | wuwu | weird |
| 04:06.47 | wuwu | i followed the set up instructions on the wiki |
| 04:06.50 | wuwu | and worked fine |
| 04:07.18 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies2: both are still 30% |
| 04:07.26 | wuwu | wow i'm dumb |
| 04:07.29 | wuwu | figured out my mistake |
| 04:07.30 | wuwu | lol |
| 04:07.39 | Guillotine | newSpot wasn't 1-4? |
| 04:07.45 | wuwu | no much more dumb |
| 04:07.52 | wuwu | i was calling a different variable |
| 04:07.59 | wuwu | than the one i was passing into my method |
| 04:08.02 | Guillotine | >< |
| 04:08.03 | Guillotine | lol |
| 04:08.05 | Guillotine | I've done worse |
| 04:08.11 | wuwu | its so hard using textpad for this |
| 04:08.14 | wuwu | i need an ide |
| 04:08.16 | Guillotine | use WoWScite |
| 04:08.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks guillo |
| 04:08.25 | wuwu | www.google.com |
| 04:09.06 | Guillotine | wuwu: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4989 is awesome |
| 04:09.33 | wuwu | ahhh ty |
| 04:09.37 | wuwu | anything beats textpad |
| 04:10.01 | Cide | TextPad is *awesome* |
| 04:10.07 | wuwu | it is |
| 04:10.11 | Shadowed | What Cide said |
| 04:10.27 | wuwu | but not when u dont have a document class for it |
| 04:10.34 | Cide | that's why I defined a lua class :) |
| 04:10.37 | wuwu | lol |
| 04:10.40 | Guillotine | IRC = multiplayer textpad |
| 04:10.43 | Cide | and an xml class, obviously |
| 04:11.03 | Shadowed | And download a highlighting for LUA |
| 04:11.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wanna know what talents are showing up come 2.0.2 |
| 04:11.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope we get the most recent set |
| 04:11.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i want the good mangle :P |
| 04:11.55 | wuwu | oh yesssss |
| 04:12.02 | wuwu | this thing is awesome Guillo |
| 04:12.04 | wuwu | :p |
| 04:12.10 | Guillotine | indeed |
| 04:12.16 | Guillotine | and you can compile and it gives lua errors |
| 04:13.14 | wuwu | ahh |
| 04:13.19 | wuwu | nice |
| 04:16.33 | wuwu | another annoying thing about lua |
| 04:16.38 | wuwu | is the base 1 |
| 04:16.43 | wuwu | for arrays |
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| 04:22.11 | Kaso | Wow's UI seemingly randomly switches between zero and 1 for indexing things, it can get confusing |
| 04:22.36 | MentalPower | err... no it doesn't |
| 04:22.41 | MentalPower | where do you see this? |
| 04:23.18 | MentalPower | it does use [0] for the userdata in frames, but thats hardly a switch |
| 04:23.19 | Kaso | GetPlayerBuff uses 0, GameTooltip:SetPlayerBuff uses 1 iirc |
| 04:23.48 | Kaso | or was it UnitBuff() uses 1 |
| 04:24.00 | Kaso | i remeber having to do -1 at somepoint |
| 04:27.14 | Kaso | and i cant think of any others right now, but im sure there is another case or two of zero indexes |
| 04:27.58 | Kaso | bags! they start at 0 |
| 04:28.07 | Kaso | for bag=0,4 do |
| 04:28.09 | Kaso | etc |
| 04:31.49 | MentalPower | bags only cause -1 is also there (bank) and the backpack isin't a "real" bag, so it gets 0 |
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| 04:34.39 | Cide | Kaso: I believe buff functions were recently changed to be more consistent |
| 04:34.45 | Cide | meaning, buff indices always start at 1 now |
| 04:34.50 | Kaso | ah, good |
| 04:34.56 | Kaso | that always frustrated me |
| 04:34.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://garry.tv/wp-content/plugins/quickimg/image/2b65f018f871d4afb5f7b7c9b11caeba.jpg |
| 04:35.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Fear and Loathing in gm_flatgrass |
| 04:36.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry, i'm adicted to garry's mod now :[ |
| 04:37.12 | Kaso | have you started coding for it? |
| 04:37.30 | Kaso | it's got lua built in doesnt it |
| 04:37.59 | Cide | heh, wow |
| 04:38.04 | Cide | dual core = awesome |
| 04:38.27 | Cide | running two instances of wow no longer puts me at <5 fps! |
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| 04:41.11 | iamhef | greetings all |
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| 04:43.10 | Cide | hi there, you are hef |
| 04:43.19 | iamhef | XD |
| 04:43.45 | iamhef | how are you on this fine friday evening, cide? |
| 04:43.52 | Cide | tired |
| 04:44.02 | Cide | almost 6am here |
| 04:44.10 | iamhef | where is that? |
| 04:44.12 | Cide | and I still have 4 hours to go before I can sleep |
| 04:44.14 | Cide | sweden |
| 04:44.21 | Kaso | 4hours before you can sleep? |
| 04:45.00 | Cide | need to head over into town in a bit |
| 04:45.11 | Cide | and I have so much crap to do with regards to UI stuff that I don't have time to go to bed early |
| 04:45.17 | Cide | so I figured I'll stay up all night instead |
| 04:45.29 | Kaso | haha makes sense |
| 04:46.42 | Kaso | I must say hearing you tonight reminded me of my old guild on Shattered hand, that place was like the unoffical Swedish server. |
| 04:47.05 | Kaso | howcome you didnt play EU wow? were you on US before eu was launched? |
| 04:48.00 | Cide | not really, but we were doing mod stuff from beta so we needed to play together |
| 04:53.01 | Guillotine | this is so fun. I'm in Thrallmar as a ghost watching the horde duel. Whenever someone loses I ressurect and moonfire them |
| 04:53.13 | cladhaire | haha |
| 04:53.16 | iamhef | lol |
| 04:53.30 | iamhef | that's a pretty good idea |
| 04:53.41 | Guillotine | I had all duels stop for about 5 mins while they were all running around trying to find me. then they started again and I just rezzed and killed 3 guys that had lost at about the same time |
| 04:54.19 | Guillotine | its actually great for honor |
| 04:54.24 | Guillotine | killing level 70s at 63 |
| 04:54.42 | iamhef | do you get an honor points estimation for it? |
| 04:56.15 | Guillotine | yup |
| 04:56.51 | Guillotine | getting 25-50 honor per person depending on level |
| 04:56.59 | Guillotine | which is alot in the new system |
| 04:56.59 | iamhef | i'm curious... how much honor do you typically get for a kill? i'm wondering how long it'll take to by the rewards |
| 04:57.01 | iamhef | oh ok |
| 04:57.03 | wuwu | hey guillo |
| 04:57.10 | wuwu | how could I move a partymemberframe? |
| 04:57.13 | wuwu | to where I want |
| 04:57.25 | Guillotine | just 1? |
| 04:57.26 | iamhef | PartMemberFrameN:SetPoint |
| 04:57.30 | Guillotine | yup |
| 04:57.42 | iamhef | err except you have to spell Party right |
| 04:57.44 | Guillotine | hold on, linking you to wiki about it |
| 04:58.04 | Guillotine | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint |
| 04:58.14 | wuwu | i tried that |
| 04:58.18 | wuwu | but it doesn't change |
| 04:58.21 | wuwu | and i did the clear |
| 04:58.21 | Guillotine | make sure to do obj:ClearAllPoints() first |
| 04:58.24 | Guillotine | oh |
| 04:58.26 | Guillotine | wierd |
| 04:58.51 | iamhef | what point are you setting it to? |
| 04:58.52 | wuwu | newFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", oldFrame:GetLeft(), oldFrame:GetBottom()); |
| 04:59.02 | wuwu | a diff partyframe |
| 04:59.06 | wuwu | so i can switch them |
| 04:59.06 | iamhef | oh that's why |
| 04:59.15 | iamhef | the 2nd arg has to be the other frame |
| 04:59.20 | Guillotine | yup |
| 04:59.32 | Guillotine | the frame name, not Getanything |
| 04:59.33 | iamhef | hmm it says differently on the wiki... but i've never tried it that way |
| 04:59.42 | wuwu | yea.. |
| 04:59.43 | iamhef | i think it does have to be the second arg |
| 04:59.46 | wuwu | so what would it be? |
| 04:59.52 | iamhef | oldFrame |
| 05:00.01 | iamhef | :SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", oldFrame, oldFrame:GetLeft(), oldFrame:GetBottom()); |
| 05:00.06 | wuwu | ahhh |
| 05:00.10 | wuwu | let me try that |
| 05:00.21 | iamhef | but wait, the x and y are *offsets* |
| 05:00.28 | iamhef | kinda like padding |
| 05:00.32 | Guillotine | ya, its going to fly all over with your script |
| 05:00.37 | wuwu | lol |
| 05:00.48 | wuwu | ugh |
| 05:01.04 | wuwu | so I should compare the points |
| 05:01.12 | iamhef | are you trying to stack them vertically? |
| 05:01.14 | wuwu | and move it the difference? |
| 05:01.16 | wuwu | yea |
| 05:01.33 | iamhef | newFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", oldFrame, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) |
| 05:01.34 | iamhef | try that |
| 05:01.52 | wuwu | mm |
| 05:02.05 | wuwu | it could be 2 and 4 switching |
| 05:02.31 | wuwu | so would I want something like |
| 05:02.31 | wuwu | 0, oldFrame:GetTop() - newFrame:getTop() |
| 05:02.31 | wuwu | ? |
| 05:02.31 | iamhef | eh? |
| 05:02.40 | iamhef | 2 and 4 switching? |
| 05:03.33 | wuwu | PartyMemberFrames |
| 05:03.44 | iamhef | i know, but what do you mean by switching? |
| 05:03.51 | wuwu | just switching spots on my screen |
| 05:04.01 | wuwu | i like my main tank being f2 |
| 05:04.05 | wuwu | and appearing there |
| 05:04.06 | iamhef | you're trying to get them to switch? |
| 05:04.10 | wuwu | yea |
| 05:04.13 | iamhef | ok |
| 05:05.37 | iamhef | PartyMemberFrame2:ClearAllPoints() |
| 05:05.37 | iamhef | PartyMemberFrame2:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", PartyMemberFrame1, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) |
| 05:05.37 | iamhef | PartyMemberFrame3:ClearAllPoints() |
| 05:05.37 | iamhef | PartyMemberFrame3:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", PartyMemberFrame2, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) |
| 05:05.37 | iamhef | PartyMemberFrame4:ClearAllPoints() |
| 05:05.38 | iamhef | PartyMemberFrame4:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", PartyMemberFrame3, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) |
| 05:06.12 | iamhef | err that's wrong.... make PartyMemberFrame3:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", PartyMemberFrame2, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) --> PartyMemberFrame3:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", PartyMemberFrame4, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, -5) |
| 05:06.33 | wuwu | wait im confused |
| 05:06.35 | wuwu | it moves them all? |
| 05:06.49 | iamhef | well i'm not sure if 3 is bound to 2, i'm guessing it is |
| 05:06.59 | iamhef | so if you move 2, you'll have to rebind 3 to 4 |
| 05:07.07 | wuwu | oh |
| 05:07.07 | iamhef | make sense? |
| 05:07.14 | wuwu | yea |
| 05:07.16 | wuwu | but |
| 05:07.37 | wuwu | what if its not 2 and 4 switching |
| 05:07.51 | wuwu | say 1 and 4 |
| 05:07.52 | iamhef | lol... so you mean you're doing this dynamically? |
| 05:07.56 | wuwu | yea |
| 05:08.08 | iamhef | i haven't read up on the stateheaders stuff, but are you using those? |
| 05:08.15 | iamhef | like for secure code, etc |
| 05:08.15 | wuwu | what's that? |
| 05:08.20 | wuwu | i just got into this today |
| 05:08.21 | iamhef | it's part of the 2.0 ui api |
| 05:08.24 | iamhef | ooooo i c |
| 05:08.37 | iamhef | yeah... your code will break on tues, Dec 5 >_< |
| 05:08.45 | wuwu | lol. |
| 05:08.49 | wuwu | that's swell |
| 05:08.53 | iamhef | part of the new security stuff in the 2.0 api prevents you from moving frames in combat |
| 05:09.07 | wuwu | well not a big deal |
| 05:09.07 | iamhef | i guess if you set your tank once and not while in combat it'd still work |
| 05:09.07 | Guillotine | should still work |
| 05:09.13 | Guillotine | he just needs to put in a check to return if its in combat |
| 05:09.58 | wuwu | ok so i do have to rebind them |
| 05:10.01 | wuwu | ugh |
| 05:10.17 | iamhef | you mean move all 3? yeah, but you'd have to do that either way |
| 05:10.38 | iamhef | like guillo said, just add a check to make sure the user isn't setting the main tank while in combat |
| 05:10.38 | wuwu | ok |
| 05:10.41 | wuwu | ty for the help guys |
| 05:10.45 | iamhef | yw |
| 05:11.26 | wuwu | it's nice being able to code something |
| 05:11.29 | wuwu | that i couldnt find a mod for |
| 05:11.44 | iamhef | oh, there's actually tons of mods out there that do taht |
| 05:11.47 | iamhef | j/k |
| 05:11.54 | wuwu | lolol |
| 05:12.01 | wuwu | + i wanted to try it on my own |
| 05:12.09 | iamhef | i know the feeling |
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| 05:13.30 | Guillotine | anybody have a horde char on the pvp beta server? |
| 05:13.30 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:13.30 | ckknight | Guillotine, play on PvE |
| 05:13.39 | Guillotine | most chars are on PvE |
| 05:13.43 | Guillotine | I just have 1 on PvP |
| 05:13.52 | Guillotine | though its my highest :/ 63 feral druid |
| 05:15.50 | wuwu | how come GetBottom() returns the same number for two diff partymemberframes? |
| 05:17.55 | iamhef | are they in the same spot? :P |
| 05:18.16 | Industrial | ohayougozaimasu |
| 05:18.19 | wuwu | hehe no |
| 05:18.24 | iamhef | kon bon wa |
| 05:19.14 | iamhef | @wuwu did you forget to clearallpoints maybe? |
| 05:19.33 | wuwu | i havent moved it |
| 05:19.49 | wuwu | just looking at the oldFrame and newFrame |
| 05:19.53 | iamhef | so wait... 2 *unmoved* frames return the same getbottom()?? |
| 05:19.57 | wuwu | yea |
| 05:20.02 | iamhef | you sure? XD |
| 05:20.10 | wuwu | local oldFrame = getglobal("PartyMemberFrame" .. tostring(movePlayer)); |
| 05:20.11 | wuwu | local newFrame = getglobal("PartyMemberFrame" .. tostring(newSpot)); |
| 05:20.15 | Cide | anyone good with graphics here and wants to do me a small favor? :) |
| 05:20.17 | wuwu | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(newFrame:GetBottom() .. " " .. oldFrame:GetBottom()); |
| 05:20.29 | wuwu | thats what I have iamhef |
| 05:20.34 | iamhef | is movePlayer == newSpot possibly? |
| 05:20.44 | wuwu | no i check that before coming in |
| 05:20.47 | wuwu | its 1 and 2 |
| 05:20.58 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 05:21.04 | wuwu | :) |
| 05:21.15 | iamhef | @ck dandy, just dandy |
| 05:21.23 | iamhef | and yourself? |
| 05:22.20 | iamhef | @wuwu are you sure oldFrame and newFrame don't get reassigned somewhere, maybe.... ? |
| 05:23.06 | wuwu | that's the first 3 lines of code |
| 05:23.12 | wuwu | so no |
| 05:23.16 | iamhef | lol o i c |
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| 05:23.27 | iamhef | paste what you have here i guess: http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 05:23.50 | iamhef | tho if that's the first 3 lines.... /shrug |
| 05:23.51 | ckknight | iamhef, I'm well |
| 05:24.08 | iamhef | @ckknight excellent, most excellent |
| 05:25.10 | wuwu | http://wowi.pastey.net/2925 |
| 05:25.36 | wuwu | or did u want the entire thing? |
| 05:26.00 | iamhef | nah... if those 3 lines are together i doubt it would make a difference |
| 05:26.09 | wuwu | yea they are |
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| 05:26.59 | Guillotine | Cide: I can try |
| 05:27.08 | wuwu | maybe it's the bottom of something else? |
| 05:27.18 | iamhef | something else? |
| 05:27.54 | wuwu | parent frame? |
| 05:27.57 | wuwu | that they all belong to? |
| 05:28.02 | wuwu | i dont know how this stuff works |
| 05:28.11 | wuwu | :[ |
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| 05:28.44 | wuwu | but when i moved it |
| 05:28.49 | wuwu | it had a different number |
| 05:30.56 | iamhef | see what this prints outs: http://wowi.pastey.net/2927 |
| 05:31.07 | wuwu | ok |
| 05:31.49 | wuwu | do they have block comments in lua |
| 05:31.52 | wuwu | like /* */ |
| 05:31.55 | iamhef | yup |
| 05:32.01 | wuwu | is it those? |
| 05:32.04 | iamhef | --[[ comment ]] |
| 05:32.08 | wuwu | ah ok |
| 05:32.09 | iamhef | ^those |
| 05:32.10 | wuwu | ty |
| 05:32.13 | iamhef | np |
| 05:33.48 | wuwu | ahh there is a string.format |
| 05:33.50 | wuwu | hehe |
| 05:34.21 | wuwu | cmd> /moveit 1 2 |
| 05:34.22 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: for frame PartyMemberFrame1 |
| 05:34.24 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: before 547 |
| 05:34.25 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: after 547 |
| 05:34.27 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: for frame PartyMemberFrame2 |
| 05:34.28 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: before 547 |
| 05:34.30 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: after 547 |
| 05:34.31 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: for frame PartyMemberFrame3 |
| 05:34.33 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: before 547 |
| 05:34.34 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: after 547 |
| 05:34.36 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: for frame PartyMemberFrame4 |
| 05:34.37 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: before 547 |
| 05:34.39 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: after 547 |
| 05:34.40 | iamhef | lol i see a pattern :P |
| 05:34.40 | wuwu | ChatFrame1: 547 547 |
| 05:34.42 | MentalPower | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 05:34.45 | iamhef | hahahaha |
| 05:34.48 | wuwu | :[ |
| 05:34.57 | MentalPower | please use pastey next time |
| 05:34.57 | abug | Will play for mushrooms |
| 05:35.10 | wuwu | oops sorry |
| 05:35.23 | wuwu | mm shrooms |
| 05:35.40 | wuwu | @imhef, what you think is going on? |
| 05:36.05 | iamhef | i dunno why it returns that... it may be a bug or it may just be a FrameXML quirk with how the frames were declared originally |
| 05:36.21 | iamhef | i guess it boils down to, do you really need that value? how badly? ;-) |
| 05:36.30 | wuwu | oh i do |
| 05:36.34 | wuwu | maybe i will do this |
| 05:36.47 | wuwu | give a player |
| 05:36.57 | wuwu | and tell it to move up or down |
| 05:37.00 | wuwu | one at a time |
| 05:37.07 | wuwu | so like /moveit 2 up |
| 05:37.10 | wuwu | would switch 1 and 2 |
| 05:37.29 | wuwu | then i can just do 5 increments |
| 05:37.32 | wuwu | like u said before |
| 05:37.55 | wuwu | should that work? |
| 05:37.56 | iamhef | 5 increments? you mean swaps? |
| 05:38.01 | wuwu | well the padding |
| 05:38.03 | wuwu | -5 and 5 |
| 05:38.11 | iamhef | oh, yeah |
| 05:38.14 | iamhef | that's what i'd do |
| 05:38.18 | iamhef | did do :) |
| 05:38.27 | wuwu | haha |
| 05:38.35 | wuwu | dont send me ur mod! |
| 05:38.40 | wuwu | i want my own |
| 05:38.42 | wuwu | :D |
| 05:39.14 | wuwu | dont think im going to bother right away |
| 05:39.22 | wuwu | to put safety checks in |
| 05:39.24 | wuwu | just gonna be for me |
| 05:39.31 | wuwu | and we all know users arent the brighest |
| 05:39.40 | wuwu | :[ |
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| 05:40.58 | wuwu | comparing two strings.. |
| 05:41.07 | wuwu | there a .equals I need to use? |
| 05:41.18 | abug | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.25 | iamhef | yeah that ^^ |
| 05:41.26 | wuwu | ah ok |
| 05:41.31 | wuwu | im used to csharp and java |
| 05:41.33 | wuwu | hehe |
| 05:41.45 | iamhef | no i don't have a mod for that stuff, i just meant the code i typed earlier |
| 05:41.51 | abug | self-demeaning question incoming |
| 05:41.52 | iamhef | csharp uses == for strings too |
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| 05:42.09 | wuwu | not that i know of |
| 05:42.13 | iamhef | it does :) |
| 05:42.20 | wuwu | o im going to try it real quick |
| 05:42.24 | iamhef | k |
| 05:42.27 | wuwu | hehe |
| 05:42.33 | abug | in for k, v in pairs(table) do <whatever> end |
| 05:42.52 | abug | k,v don't persist after the loop right? |
| 05:43.00 | iamhef | correct |
| 05:43.01 | wuwu | shoudlnt |
| 05:43.05 | Kaso | correct, theyre defined locally to the loop |
| 05:43.25 | abug | thanks |
| 05:43.53 | wuwu | @iamhef, wow that does work |
| 05:43.56 | wuwu | :x |
| 05:44.11 | iamhef | yup |
| 05:44.27 | iamhef | actually i think the .Equals for a string is fom the Object object |
| 05:44.36 | iamhef | thus it compares a mem address or something like that |
| 05:44.46 | iamhef | to see if the strings are the same object |
| 05:45.46 | wuwu | hmm didnt know that |
| 05:46.21 | iamhef | yeah i think if you look in the String class metadata (like in VS) there's no Equals() defined... it's inherited from Object |
| 05:46.39 | wuwu | but |
| 05:46.48 | wuwu | i had a string i passed into a method |
| 05:46.51 | wuwu | declared a new string there |
| 05:47.09 | wuwu | did a .Equals |
| 05:47.10 | iamhef | csharp (like lua) only keeps one copy of a string object per string value |
| 05:47.14 | wuwu | and it came out the same |
| 05:47.15 | iamhef | so .Equals does work |
| 05:47.31 | wuwu | even if i declare them in different places? |
| 05:47.32 | ckknight | actually .NET doesn't intern strings by default. |
| 05:48.05 | iamhef | really? |
| 05:48.05 | ckknight | you can intern the strings, but "alpha" is not reference equal to "alpha" in a typical .NET setting. |
| 05:48.18 | ckknight | yes, really. |
| 05:48.24 | ckknight | interning has its ups and downs |
| 05:48.28 | iamhef | hmm, now that's something i didn't know :) |
| 05:48.48 | iamhef | the compile settings i use activates intern'ing apparently |
| 05:48.52 | iamhef | cool |
| 05:49.05 | wuwu | what is intern exactly? |
| 05:49.16 | ckknight | wuwu, it makes "alpha" reference equal to "alpha" |
| 05:49.26 | wuwu | oh not looking at the pointer? |
| 05:49.35 | iamhef | wikipedia to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_intern_pool |
| 05:49.38 | End | basically, you keep a "central" string lookup table |
| 05:49.41 | ckknight | interning makes them point to the same string. |
| 05:49.42 | wuwu | ahhh |
| 05:49.55 | wuwu | so if intern was off |
| 05:50.03 | wuwu | u couldnt use == ? |
| 05:50.07 | wuwu | or do i have it backwords |
| 05:50.10 | wuwu | couldnt use .Equals |
| 05:50.13 | iamhef | backwards, i believe |
| 05:50.33 | iamhef | == is the overloaded string comparison operator |
| 05:51.02 | ckknight | == is overloaded for strings to check for value equality instead of reference equality. |
| 05:51.22 | wuwu | ah |
| 05:51.44 | wuwu | i like this channel |
| 05:51.45 | wuwu | lol |
| 05:51.49 | iamhef | :) |
| 05:52.13 | iamhef | better than barrens chat ;-) |
| 05:52.26 | wuwu | haha |
| 05:52.32 | wuwu | yes |
| 05:52.40 | iamhef | hey guyz "chuck norris" == "chuck norris" lololololz |
| 05:52.45 | wuwu | LOL |
| 05:52.50 | wuwu | i was just going to say something about that |
| 05:53.47 | wuwu | iamhef: where did you find that compiler option for the intern strings? |
| 05:54.05 | iamhef | i didn't... we all use the same settings at work |
| 05:54.14 | iamhef | that's why i didn't know it wasn't default >_< |
| 05:54.30 | wuwu | ah |
| 05:54.47 | wuwu | i just got my full time job doing software development :) |
| 05:54.50 | wuwu | its awesome |
| 05:54.56 | wuwu | well i'm still intern until i graduate |
| 05:55.03 | iamhef | if i had to guess it's prolly under the build settings... but i'm not sure |
| 05:55.27 | iamhef | you work in csharp or java? |
| 05:55.34 | wuwu | csharp |
| 05:55.38 | wuwu | some things are vb6 |
| 05:55.41 | wuwu | that i have to convert over |
| 05:55.43 | wuwu | or c++ |
| 05:55.48 | wuwu | but i dont know much c++ |
| 05:56.19 | iamhef | i think i much prefer csharp out of all of those, c++ next |
| 05:56.27 | wuwu | yea i like csharp |
| 05:56.33 | wuwu | in school they taught us java |
| 05:56.38 | wuwu | and the transistion was easy |
| 05:56.42 | iamhef | it's all the nice things of java without all the crap of java :P |
| 05:56.46 | wuwu | haha |
| 05:57.02 | wuwu | i'm still learning a lot |
| 05:57.06 | wuwu | but it's so fun at the same time |
| 05:57.10 | iamhef | it stinks that it's windows only though |
| 05:57.25 | iamhef | and all the .net 3.0 stuff is winxp sp2+ only |
| 05:57.35 | ckknight | not all of it |
| 05:57.39 | ckknight | just the WinFX stuff |
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| 05:57.51 | ckknight | the LINQ stuff is for everything |
| 05:57.58 | iamhef | yeah, that's what i meant... currently .net 3.0 is winfx + net 2.0 |
| 05:58.15 | iamhef | i haven't played with LINQ yet... |
| 05:58.25 | iamhef | i'm just starting to play with the winfx and wcf stuff |
| 05:58.34 | ckknight | .NET is also C# 3.0 |
| 05:58.39 | ckknight | .NET 3.0* |
| 05:58.45 | ckknight | and C# 3.0 has a lot of shiny stuff |
| 05:59.08 | iamhef | that's not released yet, i thought.... |
| 05:59.12 | iamhef | did i miss that? |
| 05:59.35 | ckknight | I've played with it |
| 05:59.40 | ckknight | not sure that it's "released" |
| 06:00.20 | iamhef | the only thing i remember from the feature list was that it was supposed to have implicit static typing, which is "shiny" :) |
| 06:01.15 | wuwu | do you guys work API calls at all? |
| 06:01.20 | wuwu | work with* |
| 06:01.22 | wuwu | in csharp |
| 06:01.25 | ckknight | what do you mean by that? |
| 06:01.30 | ckknight | everyone works with API calls. |
| 06:01.30 | wuwu | like user32 ones |
| 06:01.31 | iamhef | you mean like the .net libraries? |
| 06:01.32 | wuwu | for windows |
| 06:01.34 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:01.39 | ckknight | p/calls |
| 06:01.41 | ckknight | no. |
| 06:01.46 | iamhef | oooh, yeah i had to do that before |
| 06:01.51 | wuwu | i wrote this lil app |
| 06:01.59 | wuwu | where i wanted to rearrange items on my task bar |
| 06:02.02 | wuwu | it works fine |
| 06:02.06 | wuwu | except for windows with parents |
| 06:02.10 | iamhef | it's not so bad in .net though i don't like doing it that much (no legacy for me kthx :P) |
| 06:03.01 | iamhef | that kinda makes sense |
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| 06:03.23 | iamhef | does it automatically try to group those windows with their parents? |
| 06:03.56 | wuwu | i didnt work on that part yet |
| 06:04.06 | iamhef | i meant the win32 function |
| 06:04.06 | wuwu | what I do to reorder |
| 06:04.14 | wuwu | oh I dont think so |
| 06:04.17 | wuwu | i hid a child |
| 06:04.20 | iamhef | oh ok |
| 06:04.23 | wuwu | and the parent stays visible |
| 06:04.40 | iamhef | then you reshow the child? |
| 06:04.43 | wuwu | yea |
| 06:04.50 | wuwu | i get the list of apps currently in taskbar |
| 06:04.55 | wuwu | set the order up i want |
| 06:04.56 | iamhef | interesting... there may be a win32 function to manually set the index of the button tho |
| 06:05.01 | wuwu | hide them all and show them |
| 06:05.05 | wuwu | in the order i want |
| 06:05.13 | iamhef | since xp does do that if you select the "Group tasks" option |
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| 06:11.58 | iamhef | lol |
| 06:14.10 | wuwu | k i was gonna hold off modifying my mod |
| 06:14.18 | wuwu | but i wanna finish it now |
| 06:14.18 | wuwu | lol |
| 06:14.30 | wuwu | gonna try the move one at a time |
| 06:14.41 | wuwu | is top left 0, 0? |
| 06:14.50 | wuwu | for coords |
| 06:14.51 | iamhef | hmm... |
| 06:14.59 | iamhef | i don't think so |
| 06:15.18 | iamhef | i know for offsets 0, 0 is bottom left |
| 06:15.26 | wuwu | ahh bottom left |
| 06:15.42 | iamhef | so like for shifting something to the right you pad x positive |
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| 06:15.48 | iamhef | or to the left, pad x negative |
| 06:16.04 | wuwu | and up would be positive |
| 06:16.14 | iamhef | correct |
| 06:16.15 | wuwu | ok |
| 06:16.26 | wuwu | i like wowbench |
| 06:16.29 | wuwu | glad i found that bugger |
| 06:16.46 | iamhef | i haven't used it but it looked interesting |
| 06:16.56 | iamhef | is that what was returning the 547 value tho?? |
| 06:17.01 | wuwu | yea |
| 06:17.11 | wuwu | think i should try in game? |
| 06:17.17 | iamhef | *smacks |
| 06:17.22 | iamhef | lol yeah |
| 06:17.28 | wuwu | :x |
| 06:17.28 | wuwu | lol |
| 06:17.28 | iamhef | it was prolly just a wowbench bug |
| 06:17.45 | wuwu | dog |
| 06:17.46 | wuwu | doh* |
| 06:18.01 | wuwu | if i do it in game |
| 06:18.15 | wuwu | where do I need to be in game to start over say after i make a change to the code |
| 06:18.25 | iamhef | erm, huh? |
| 06:18.28 | iamhef | need to be? |
| 06:18.40 | wuwu | like if i make a change |
| 06:18.45 | wuwu | do I need to exit game |
| 06:18.50 | wuwu | for the changes to be picked up? |
| 06:18.54 | iamhef | you can call RestartUI() |
| 06:18.59 | wuwu | ahhh good call sir |
| 06:19.08 | iamhef | or from command line: /script RestartUI() |
| 06:19.11 | ckknight | ReloadUI |
| 06:19.18 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.25 | iamhef | that too |
| 06:19.26 | ckknight | or if you have Ace, /rl |
| 06:19.39 | iamhef | or if you have my debug mod, /rl :-D |
| 06:21.39 | wuwu | what is your debug mod? |
| 06:21.42 | wuwu | sounds promising |
| 06:21.57 | iamhef | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5796 |
| 06:22.19 | iamhef | it's actually an addon dev framework like ace, and it includes a debug mod |
| 06:22.50 | wuwu | only for BC? |
| 06:22.58 | iamhef | oh... yeah :\ |
| 06:23.03 | wuwu | hehe |
| 06:23.04 | wuwu | doh |
| 06:23.04 | iamhef | until Dec 5th |
| 06:23.41 | wuwu | mmm ill have to keep it in mind |
| 06:24.00 | iamhef | that'd make me a happy panda =) |
| 06:24.18 | iamhef | it's fairly new, so it just made the most sense to write it for the 2.0 ui |
| 06:24.43 | wuwu | yea debugging is tough in this environment |
| 06:24.46 | wuwu | this helps? |
| 06:24.54 | iamhef | it helps me alot |
| 06:25.11 | iamhef | i've been writing alot of interface code to shift around the default ui lately, and it has helped |
| 06:25.21 | wuwu | nice |
| 06:25.38 | wuwu | i have a question about that code you pasted before |
| 06:25.40 | wuwu | local frame = _G[frameName] |
| 06:25.47 | wuwu | same thing as GetGlobal? |
| 06:25.50 | iamhef | yup |
| 06:25.53 | wuwu | getglobal |
| 06:26.01 | wuwu | so used to camel casing |
| 06:26.01 | wuwu | lol |
| 06:26.06 | wuwu | ah nice |
| 06:26.09 | wuwu | less keystrokes = win |
| 06:26.13 | Kaso | there is no _G in wow |
| 06:26.26 | iamhef | there is in 2.0 for sure |
| 06:26.29 | Kaso | there is? |
| 06:26.31 | iamhef | yup |
| 06:26.35 | Kaso | ooh, didnt know that |
| 06:26.53 | iamhef | that's that i use all the time... what wuwu said about keystrokes is true :) |
| 06:27.27 | Kaso | well i was going to suggest getfenv(0) is the wow equlilant of _G but seeing as its in 2.0 no problem |
| 06:27.27 | iamhef | @wuwu http://wowi.pastey.net/2929 is the readme for the debug mod |
| 06:28.31 | iamhef | yeah that'd work if there was no _G, also you could set the __index metamethod of _G = {} to call getglobal() |
| 06:28.35 | wuwu | yea def sounds useful when 2.0 releases |
| 06:28.47 | iamhef | well, 1.x might have it too... i don't recall |
| 06:29.07 | wuwu | if wowbench is 1.x it works |
| 06:29.10 | iamhef | i hadn't really done a lot of dev before working with the 2.0 stuff |
| 06:29.15 | wuwu | - the GetBottom() |
| 06:29.27 | wuwu | im going to try that in game |
| 06:29.29 | wuwu | and see |
| 06:29.38 | iamhef | k |
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| 06:30.20 | Kaso | I wonder why they added _G in 2.0, seems rather superflous |
| 06:30.34 | iamhef | ... less keystrokes? ;-) |
| 06:30.47 | Kaso | copy paste ftw! |
| 06:31.12 | iamhef | meh, i'll take _G over getglobal for readability |
| 06:31.56 | ckknight | they added _G? |
| 06:31.56 | iamhef | the best would be a _() function tho (which you could make one, obviously) |
| 06:32.04 | ckknight | why, iamhef? |
| 06:32.10 | iamhef | that way you could do _"FrameName" |
| 06:32.19 | ckknight | _G[] is a table call instead of a function call |
| 06:32.21 | ckknight | much faster. |
| 06:32.25 | iamhef | very compact and unobtrusive |
| 06:32.30 | ckknight | iamhef, local _ = getglobal |
| 06:32.37 | iamhef | lol yeah i know |
| 06:32.44 | cogwheel | ckknight: not if _G uses a metatable... |
| 06:32.58 | ckknight | cogwheel, which it doesn't. |
| 06:33.32 | wuwu | how do i do literal strings because I want "valid directions are "up" and "down""; |
| 06:33.40 | wuwu | can i drop an @ symbol in front |
| 06:33.43 | ckknight | "up" |
| 06:33.45 | ckknight | "down" |
| 06:33.53 | iamhef | use single quotes? |
| 06:34.02 | wuwu | ok |
| 06:34.07 | iamhef | like to include the double quotes in the strings? |
| 06:34.07 | cogwheel | 'blah "blah" blah' |
| 06:34.12 | ckknight | string.format("valid directions are %q and %q", "up", "down") |
| 06:34.15 | cogwheel | or "blah \"blah\" blah" |
| 06:34.17 | Kaso | "blah blag \"blah\" blah"? |
| 06:34.19 | Kaso | hey! |
| 06:34.28 | iamhef | ^^^ that stuff ^^^ |
| 06:34.31 | wuwu | lol |
| 06:34.35 | wuwu | ty guys |
| 06:35.07 | ckknight | [[blah blag "blah" blah]] |
| 06:35.14 | iamhef | nice, nice |
| 06:35.28 | ckknight | [=[blah]=] works as well |
| 06:35.55 | Kaso | so many ways |
| 06:36.55 | wuwu | except @"directions are "up" and "down""; |
| 06:36.57 | wuwu | :'( |
| 06:37.10 | wuwu | i love that lil guy |
| 06:37.12 | ckknight | wuwu, use [[]] |
| 06:37.20 | ckknight | it's the equivalent in WoW |
| 06:37.25 | iamhef | yeah... nor r"direction are "up" and "down"" |
| 06:37.28 | ckknight | and actually, C#'s @ doesn't work that way |
| 06:37.34 | wuwu | it doesn't |
| 06:37.38 | ckknight | you'd need to do @"directions are ""up"" and ""down"""; |
| 06:37.40 | iamhef | no not for " ... |
| 06:37.46 | wuwu | oh.. |
| 06:37.50 | wuwu | i've only tried it with \ |
| 06:37.55 | wuwu | dammit |
| 06:37.58 | ckknight | [[\n]] == "\\n" |
| 06:38.00 | wuwu | csharp letting me down tonight! |
| 06:38.01 | ckknight | for lua |
| 06:39.00 | iamhef | ck is on the ball =) |
| 06:39.05 | wuwu | ~= is not equal |
| 06:39.14 | purl | wuwu: I think you lost me on that one |
| 06:39.14 | wuwu | ? |
| 06:39.14 | iamhef | true |
| 06:39.21 | iamhef | lol |
| 06:39.23 | wuwu | lol |
| 06:39.27 | wuwu | wouldnt doubt it |
| 06:39.32 | wuwu | im bad at wording stuff |
| 06:39.34 | wuwu | which part |
| 06:39.48 | iamhef | ~= == != |
| 06:39.51 | iamhef | =P |
| 06:39.57 | wuwu | haha |
| 06:40.01 | wuwu | nice iamhef |
| 06:45.18 | wuwu | is it possible to have breakpoints in lua :? |
| 06:45.35 | iamhef | sadly no (not that i know of anyway) |
| 06:46.00 | wuwu | doh ok |
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| 06:47.25 | wuwu | ah no wonder i've been having find problems |
| 06:47.27 | wuwu | returns the index |
| 06:48.02 | iamhef | of course!! ... wait, wut? |
| 06:48.42 | wuwu | for some absurd reason |
| 06:48.49 | wuwu | i thought it gave me the string back |
| 06:49.10 | iamhef | what....? |
| 06:49.22 | iamhef | nvm... congratulation! |
| 06:49.27 | iamhef | ;-) |
| 06:49.49 | wuwu | no like in my slash command |
| 06:49.53 | wuwu | i have two arguments |
| 06:50.00 | wuwu | player direction |
| 06:50.02 | wuwu | so /moveit 1 up |
| 06:50.05 | wuwu | and i was doing |
| 06:50.06 | wuwu | local direction = string.find(msg, "(%a+)"); |
| 06:50.13 | wuwu | would give me back a 3 |
| 06:50.14 | wuwu | hehe |
| 06:50.16 | iamhef | oh yeah |
| 06:50.19 | iamhef | it returns 3 things |
| 06:50.27 | iamhef | i, j, captureValue |
| 06:50.35 | wuwu | ahh |
| 06:50.41 | iamhef | so do local _, _, direction |
| 06:50.54 | wuwu | what is capture value? |
| 06:51.00 | wuwu | the string? |
| 06:51.02 | iamhef | the () in your regex |
| 06:51.09 | wuwu | ah ok |
| 06:51.27 | wuwu | would you mind explaining the _, _, |
| 06:51.30 | iamhef | actually if you have multi captures it will return them all |
| 06:51.46 | ckknight | um... can I suggest using AceConsole-2.0 to handle your slash commands? |
| 06:51.51 | iamhef | those are just standard placeholders used for return vals you don't care about |
| 06:51.57 | wuwu | ah ok |
| 06:52.07 | wuwu | not sure what AceConsole is |
| 06:52.12 | wuwu | besides the mention in iamhef's mod |
| 06:52.17 | MentalPower|ZZzz | its a library |
| 06:52.22 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConsole-2.0 |
| 06:52.32 | MentalPower|ZZzz | but if you're trying to learn, libraries won't help |
| 06:52.37 | iamhef | yeah it's library for addon development, like my mod |
| 06:52.45 | iamhef | but i gotta agree with mentalpower |
| 06:52.56 | iamhef | learn it the straightway first |
| 06:53.03 | wuwu | yea that's a good idea |
| 06:53.07 | iamhef | then you can appreciate why dev libraries make things better ;-) |
| 06:53.09 | ckknight | mmm... either way is good for learning |
| 06:53.13 | ckknight | you'll just learn different things. |
| 06:53.22 | ckknight | that's all ;-) |
| 06:53.35 | wuwu | i need to pick up on syntax more than anything |
| 06:53.40 | ckknight | but yes, after doing it painfully on your own will grant you appreciation for libraries that make your life easier |
| 06:53.42 | wuwu | after that its cake |
| 06:53.46 | iamhef | but sometimes is good to understand the underlying implications of what you're doing (or what the lib is doing for you) |
| 06:53.58 | wuwu | yea i agree |
| 06:54.00 | iamhef | so that's why i say manually first |
| 06:54.05 | wuwu | but i'll keep it in mind :) |
| 06:54.06 | ckknight | here's a fun syntactical bit of lua: |
| 06:54.06 | ckknight | local t = [[print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t)]]; print("local t = [".."[" .. t .. "]".."]; " .. t) |
| 06:54.15 | wuwu | omg |
| 06:54.17 | wuwu | my eyes |
| 06:54.20 | iamhef | lol |
| 06:54.24 | wuwu | they wont stop burning |
| 06:54.25 | ckknight | it's a quine I wrote today |
| 06:54.56 | iamhef | ...for what purpose? lol |
| 06:55.05 | ckknight | it's self-replicating code |
| 06:55.12 | iamhef | i know, but for what purpose :P |
| 06:55.15 | ckknight | if you were to put that in an interpreter, it would print itself |
| 06:55.24 | iamhef | yup |
| 06:55.26 | ckknight | oh, it's homework for my Computability Theory class |
| 06:55.33 | iamhef | ooo cool |
| 06:58.32 | iamhef | so who here plays PvE? |
| 06:58.46 | iamhef | i'm looking to reroll sometime soon and i'm thinking i'll do PvE |
| 06:59.13 | wuwu | i play stormreaver, its pvp |
| 06:59.16 | wuwu | :( |
| 06:59.26 | iamhef | i used to play stormreaver actually |
| 06:59.30 | wuwu | ah |
| 06:59.31 | iamhef | that was the server i started on |
| 06:59.34 | ckknight | iamhef, I play PvE or RP when I actually play WoW |
| 06:59.43 | iamhef | cool |
| 06:59.46 | iamhef | which server? |
| 07:00.46 | iamhef | @wuwu ...you wouldn't happen to go to school at LSU would you? i know there were a lot of ppl from there on stormreaver |
| 07:00.46 | ckknight | I haven't played on vanilla servers for two months |
| 07:00.46 | wuwu | no.. i'm from WI |
| 07:00.56 | iamhef | @ck vanilla? you mean not beta? |
| 07:01.03 | iamhef | @wuwu oh ok |
| 07:01.04 | ckknight | yea. |
| 07:01.19 | ckknight | currently we have vanilla, PTR, and TBC servers |
| 07:01.23 | wuwu | i have friends on stormreaver that go to LSU though :) |
| 07:01.25 | iamhef | right-o |
| 07:01.39 | iamhef | oh really? i went to LSU |
| 07:01.58 | wuwu | yea they always talking lsu football |
| 07:02.00 | wuwu | lol |
| 07:02.03 | iamhef | do you know someone on S.R. named grimjob? |
| 07:02.16 | wuwu | no, sorry |
| 07:02.31 | ckknight | lol, nice name |
| 07:02.31 | wuwu | i played when game first came out for about 2 months |
| 07:02.35 | iamhef | oh alright... yeah lsu football is huge |
| 07:02.38 | wuwu | then quit until recently |
| 07:02.49 | wuwu | so I dont know many people |
| 07:02.55 | iamhef | i did the same actually :) that's why i'm rerolling |
| 07:02.58 | wuwu | hehe |
| 07:03.02 | wuwu | what class you thinking? |
| 07:03.07 | iamhef | pali :P |
| 07:03.19 | wuwu | ah very nice |
| 07:03.21 | wuwu | i have a priest |
| 07:03.27 | wuwu | for my main |
| 07:03.28 | wuwu | only 55 |
| 07:03.32 | wuwu | but he's so fun |
| 07:03.33 | iamhef | i didn't like the way blizz was heading after the first few months, but it looks like they're really doing well now |
| 07:03.37 | ckknight | Horde ftw |
| 07:03.40 | wuwu | yea |
| 07:03.48 | iamhef | belf pali ... ;-) |
| 07:03.57 | wuwu | i'm a dorf |
| 07:04.00 | wuwu | he is awesome |
| 07:04.02 | wuwu | not gonna lie |
| 07:04.05 | iamhef | lol |
| 07:05.28 | ckknight | I have a belf pally |
| 07:05.35 | ckknight | hot stuff right there |
| 07:05.39 | iamhef | what level have you gotten to? |
| 07:05.50 | iamhef | i'm curious if blood seal is as bad as everyone says |
| 07:06.08 | iamhef | and how it interacts with BoSanc |
| 07:06.57 | Tem | iamhef, I'm currently an LSU student |
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| 07:07.08 | Tem | I'm so hoping we go to the rose bowl |
| 07:07.16 | Tem | (I'd get to go for free!) |
| 07:07.33 | iamhef | for free? student tickets cover that? |
| 07:07.34 | Tem | (well, I get to go to whatever bowl we go to, but the rosebowl would be way more fun) |
| 07:07.37 | ckknight | iamhef, 20 |
| 07:07.46 | Tem | iamhef, Tigerband |
| 07:07.53 | iamhef | oh lol nice |
| 07:08.09 | iamhef | @Tem are you csc, by any chance? |
| 07:08.09 | Tem | lots and lots of perks |
| 07:08.13 | Tem | I am >< |
| 07:08.23 | Tem | I feel so fucking dumb majoring in CSC here |
| 07:08.27 | Tem | but meh |
| 07:08.29 | iamhef | @ckknight, hmm plan to get him to 63 by end of beta? ;-) |
| 07:08.38 | ckknight | lol, no |
| 07:08.45 | ckknight | I'm a coder |
| 07:08.53 | iamhef | yeah csc there sucks... been there done that :P |
| 07:08.57 | ckknight | I spend much more time coding than playin |
| 07:08.59 | ckknight | g |
| 07:09.27 | iamhef | @ck, same here for now... i'd like to even it out tho if i can find a good bunch of ppl to play on a PvE server with, though |
| 07:09.44 | Tem | iamhef, where are you now? |
| 07:09.53 | iamhef | @Tem... so how about that mrs. douglass? =P |
| 07:10.02 | Tem | gah |
| 07:10.04 | iamhef | i moved to austin actually, after i graduated |
| 07:10.23 | Tem | that whatchamagigger works with the thingamagiggy to... |
| 07:10.28 | iamhef | lol |
| 07:10.40 | Tem | but really, I'll take her any day over duncan and guillot |
| 07:10.47 | Tem | she's *nice* |
| 07:10.50 | iamhef | guillot is my bane... i hate that woman |
| 07:11.01 | Tem | guillot is the devil |
| 07:11.09 | wuwu | women teachers for comp sci classes? |
| 07:11.18 | Tem | I spent 2 minutes in her class and walked out |
| 07:11.29 | Tem | then I found out how to test out |
| 07:11.36 | iamhef | @wuwu yes, and they're truly worthless |
| 07:11.45 | Tem | there's a couple of new guys there now |
| 07:11.54 | Tem | the guy I had last semester for OO was really good |
| 07:11.58 | Tem | Baumgartner |
| 07:11.58 | wuwu | i have a few worthless teachers, but they are males |
| 07:11.59 | iamhef | actually there was a mrs. traxler that used to teach csc, now she works for CCT there |
| 07:12.01 | iamhef | she was great |
| 07:12.08 | Tem | oh yeah! |
| 07:12.13 | iamhef | yeah Baumgartner is good |
| 07:12.16 | iamhef | he knows his stuff |
| 07:12.17 | wuwu | i haven't had any of my assignments or tests graded since september. |
| 07:12.24 | wuwu | in my web dev class |
| 07:12.37 | wuwu | pissing me off |
| 07:12.41 | Tem | we dont' event have a web dev class |
| 07:12.44 | Tem | not one |
| 07:12.47 | wuwu | ah |
| 07:12.47 | iamhef | none |
| 07:12.58 | Tem | there used to be a sorry excuse for one in the ISDS department |
| 07:13.00 | wuwu | we do mostly java serlets and jsp |
| 07:13.02 | Tem | but now it's a VB class |
| 07:13.03 | iamhef | c, c++, java, x86 asm |
| 07:13.15 | wuwu | asm is hard |
| 07:13.17 | iamhef | thaz all... and they all suck |
| 07:13.22 | iamhef | asm can be fun :-D |
| 07:13.30 | wuwu | i got an A in the class |
| 07:13.31 | iamhef | but not if they try and teach it like c |
| 07:13.33 | ckknight | asm can be fun |
| 07:13.36 | wuwu | but the assignments were so simple |
| 07:13.48 | wuwu | nothing challenging |
| 07:13.48 | Tem | it's truly a terrible program here... |
| 07:13.59 | ckknight | I wrote a brainfuck compiler in asm |
| 07:14.05 | ckknight | for my final project |
| 07:14.05 | Tem | everything in asm is challenging until you know wtf you're doing |
| 07:14.05 | iamhef | lol |
| 07:14.07 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 07:14.17 | wuwu | @iamhef, whats the equivalent in lua |
| 07:14.21 | wuwu | i have a bool function |
| 07:14.28 | ckknight | bool function? |
| 07:14.30 | iamhef | i suppose asm would be good for bf actually |
| 07:14.35 | wuwu | and i'm trying to do if (!IsThisValid(blah)) |
| 07:14.45 | iamhef | if not IsThisValid(blah) |
| 07:14.46 | ckknight | if not IsThisValid(blah) then ... end |
| 07:14.52 | wuwu | ok ty :) |
| 07:14.53 | Tem | you guys type faster than me |
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| 07:14.57 | wuwu | lol |
| 07:15.00 | wuwu | they are quick ones |
| 07:15.03 | iamhef | Nickenyfiken [n=chatzill@83.145.59.23] entered the room. |
| 07:15.05 | iamhef | dammit lost that one |
| 07:15.08 | iamhef | ;-) |
| 07:15.10 | ckknight | lol, iamhef |
| 07:15.12 | ckknight | hey Nickenyfiken |
| 07:15.19 | Tem | I'm also not too fast while tabbing in and out of game |
| 07:15.32 | Nickenyfiken | hi! |
| 07:15.44 | iamhef | hola |
| 07:15.47 | Nickenyfiken | damn hangover :-( |
| 07:19.58 | Nickenyfiken | background downloader is sloooow |
| 07:20.20 | iamhef | is it running in the background of wow or you're just running it? |
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| 07:22.06 | jaxdahl | that was a fun experiment |
| 07:22.09 | jaxdahl | i tanked Stratholme |
| 07:22.25 | jaxdahl | if i had some water to drink during breaks, i'd have held aggro the whole time |
| 07:22.36 | jaxdahl | the necromancer humans that drain your mana really suck |
| 07:22.47 | iamhef | @jax what class? |
| 07:22.52 | jaxdahl | <-- paladin |
| 07:22.57 | jaxdahl | 2 locks, priest, rogue |
| 07:22.57 | iamhef | nifty |
| 07:23.02 | jaxdahl | locks had their felguards out |
| 07:23.13 | jaxdahl | avenger's shield is great for pulling |
| 07:23.27 | jaxdahl | creates a lot of initial aggro |
| 07:23.34 | iamhef | so wait... even with PTR talents you didn't hold aggro the whole time =\ |
| 07:23.38 | iamhef | ? |
| 07:23.53 | jaxdahl | well when i ran really low on mana from those humans |
| 07:23.58 | jaxdahl | i was going into fights with 20% mana |
| 07:24.01 | jaxdahl | since i had no water |
| 07:24.07 | jaxdahl | if i had had water, i would've been able to |
| 07:24.09 | iamhef | oh, that's not so bad then |
| 07:24.12 | jaxdahl | but overall it was very good |
| 07:24.21 | iamhef | cool, good to hear |
| 07:24.24 | jaxdahl | nobody died |
| 07:24.33 | jaxdahl | except when 1 person pulled the side group after spider boss |
| 07:24.37 | jaxdahl | when you exit that zig |
| 07:24.49 | jaxdahl | and when the 5 skellies come out baron, one lock decided to hellfire himself to death |
| 07:25.15 | jaxdahl | we also had a premature baron pull (felguard on defensive got hit by baron's aura i think?) |
| 07:25.16 | iamhef | never actually been to strat >_< |
| 07:25.23 | jaxdahl | ah |
| 07:26.01 | jaxdahl | haha oh man |
| 07:26.06 | jaxdahl | consecration hitting for 81 a tick |
| 07:26.26 | iamhef | good aggro? |
| 07:26.35 | jaxdahl | yea |
| 07:26.42 | jaxdahl | that's ~640 dmg over 8 sec |
| 07:26.56 | jaxdahl | and righteous fury is a 90% multiplier i think |
| 07:27.06 | jaxdahl | 1216 threat |
| 07:27.19 | jaxdahl | reckoning with holy shield is great too |
| 07:27.33 | iamhef | yeah, holy shield seems awesome for aggro |
| 07:27.34 | jaxdahl | ~70% block with my gear |
| 07:27.43 | iamhef | nice |
| 07:27.48 | iamhef | does BoSanc's thorn damage cause aggro? |
| 07:27.59 | jaxdahl | not sure i think so |
| 07:28.01 | jaxdahl | buti was using kings |
| 07:28.58 | jaxdahl | so hard to keep track of everything as a tank |
| 07:29.06 | jaxdahl | loose mobs, your cooldowns, keeping holy shield up |
| 07:29.11 | jaxdahl | judging seals |
| 07:29.18 | iamhef | that's part of the fun tho :-D... all the chaos |
| 07:30.03 | Corr[home] | damn paladins |
| 07:30.12 | iamhef | lol |
| 07:32.16 | jaxdahl | dang |
| 07:32.25 | jaxdahl | tried to solo a patchwork horror |
| 07:32.29 | jaxdahl | got it down to 15% |
| 07:32.35 | jaxdahl | if i had a pot or bandages i would've had him |
| 07:32.43 | jaxdahl | prot sucks at self healage |
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| 07:32.59 | iamhef | that's why i'd do a holy/prot build |
| 07:33.01 | jaxdahl | but doesn't hurt as easily as holy |
| 07:33.18 | jaxdahl | yeah, with the expansion, itemization will be MUCH better |
| 07:33.29 | jaxdahl | as well as being able to spend 61 points |
| 07:33.36 | iamhef | yesssss :) |
| 07:34.20 | iamhef | what do you think of the blessed life talent? better than sanctified duty? |
| 07:34.28 | jaxdahl | eh? |
| 07:34.37 | jaxdahl | oh |
| 07:34.41 | jaxdahl | where's sanctified duty? |
| 07:34.45 | iamhef | blessed life = 10% chance to reduce dmg by 50% |
| 07:34.52 | iamhef | oh, s.d. is beta realm only atm |
| 07:34.55 | jaxdahl | no not that high |
| 07:35.06 | iamhef | it's improved DS + 6% stam |
| 07:35.07 | jaxdahl | er, 4/7/10? |
| 07:35.12 | iamhef | yeah, that one |
| 07:35.22 | iamhef | i wonder what the average lvl 70 stam is.... |
| 07:35.47 | jaxdahl | the healing restoring mana is just great |
| 07:35.53 | SP|Sorren | does /assistunit take conditionals? |
| 07:35.56 | jaxdahl | it gave me just enough mana from the priest to keep going |
| 07:36.36 | iamhef | @sorren no clue, sorry |
| 07:38.17 | grimman | /wave |
| 07:38.32 | iamhef | is that bye or hello? |
| 07:38.34 | SP|Sorren | doh ;o |
| 07:38.35 | wuwu | what kind of upgrades priests looking at ? |
| 07:38.57 | iamhef | @wuwu some are spiffy, but doesn't look as spiffy as hunters for instance |
| 07:39.26 | wuwu | what are the spiffy ones :) |
| 07:39.28 | iamhef | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=r |
| 07:39.37 | wuwu | ah cool |
| 07:39.41 | iamhef | reflective sheild is really spiffy (lower disc tree) |
| 07:39.46 | wuwu | omg |
| 07:39.48 | wuwu | vampiric touch |
| 07:40.07 | iamhef | yeah, but from what i hear ppl aren't all that impressed... i could be wrong tho |
| 07:40.23 | wuwu | oh :[ |
| 07:40.25 | wuwu | we'll see |
| 07:40.29 | wuwu | i need to hit 60 before BC |
| 07:45.06 | Guillotine | ya, vamp touch looks nice on paper but really isn't that good |
| 07:45.23 | wuwu | i guess 5% isnt much |
| 07:45.32 | Guillotine | it takes about 3 pulls in an instance to generate enough mana for 1 mind blast |
| 07:46.06 | Guillotine | obviously, another DoT is nice, but I havn't even found it to be worth the mana cost |
| 07:46.41 | Guillotine | so far, Disc seems to be the way to go for both damage and healing |
| 07:46.51 | wuwu | ewwwww |
| 07:46.57 | wuwu | what is the command to reload ui again? |
| 07:47.02 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.05 | wuwu | k ty |
| 07:47.13 | Guillotine | anyway, g2g all, gn :) |
| 07:47.31 | wuwu | night |
| 07:49.17 | Nickenyfiken | iamhef: im just running it |
| 07:49.28 | Nickenyfiken | iamhef: (background downloader) |
| 07:49.33 | iamhef | lol oh ok |
| 07:51.22 | Nickenyfiken | i am slow |
| 07:51.24 | Nickenyfiken | :-P |
| 07:52.01 | Nickenyfiken | thought i should answer anyway cus it's such a sofisticated question and a important and interesting subject |
| 07:55.22 | iamhef | oh, totally, i was on the edge of my seat for a while there ;-) |
| 07:59.01 | Nickenyfiken | :-) |
| 07:59.47 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?Ability_Suffocate.jpg |
| 07:59.49 | grimman | laff |
| 07:59.57 | iamhef | so, Nickenyfiken, do *you* play on a PvE server? |
| 08:00.36 | iamhef | @grim lol yeah i saw that one digging through the mpq files... someone was feeling creative |
| 08:00.47 | grimman | I'm digging myself now. ;D |
| 08:01.00 | grimman | Apparently there's been a "Summon Water Elemental" spell before. |
| 08:01.07 | iamhef | o rly? |
| 08:01.10 | grimman | Indeed. |
| 08:01.24 | grimman | Spell_Frost_SummonWaterElemental |
| 08:01.45 | iamhef | not the same as the one in beta now? |
| 08:01.58 | grimman | Unknown. |
| 08:02.02 | iamhef | oh ok |
| 08:02.08 | grimman | That's the filename of that particular icon. |
| 08:02.10 | grimman | I'll upload it. :P |
| 08:02.29 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?Spell_Frost_SummonWaterElemental.jpg |
| 08:02.33 | wuwu | @iamhef, have a min? |
| 08:02.51 | iamhef | @wuwu, i have a max... does that help? |
| 08:02.57 | iamhef | j/k, sure |
| 08:02.58 | wuwu | lol |
| 08:03.04 | grimman | Ability_Rogue_Disguise.jpg |
| 08:03.04 | wuwu | kk |
| 08:03.05 | grimman | Creepy. |
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| 08:03.18 | wuwu | I was able to switch two partymemberframes |
| 08:03.24 | wuwu | but the one I was moving up |
| 08:03.30 | wuwu | the only thing that appears now is his name |
| 08:03.39 | iamhef | you broke it!! |
| 08:03.45 | iamhef | again, j/k |
| 08:03.48 | wuwu | lolol |
| 08:03.49 | wuwu | but |
| 08:03.55 | wuwu | if i move the same position up again |
| 08:04.00 | wuwu | they both appear correctly |
| 08:04.15 | iamhef | you mean if you swap them back? |
| 08:04.31 | wuwu | sec |
| 08:04.33 | wuwu | let me see |
| 08:05.13 | wuwu | yes |
| 08:05.16 | wuwu | if i swap them back |
| 08:05.19 | wuwu | like |
| 08:05.28 | wuwu | i do /moveit 3 up |
| 08:05.33 | wuwu | and /moveit 3 up |
| 08:05.43 | wuwu | after the first one the moving one only has name displayed |
| 08:05.54 | wuwu | but after the second command they both appear fine |
| 08:05.54 | iamhef | is 3 the position number or the frame number? |
| 08:06.07 | wuwu | it is both I believe |
| 08:06.13 | wuwu | PartyMemberFrame |
| 08:06.15 | iamhef | shouldn't be in teh second case |
| 08:06.23 | wuwu | well |
| 08:06.32 | wuwu | let me make a pastey |
| 08:06.35 | wuwu | www.pastey.org |
| 08:06.41 | iamhef | cuz if you've already moved up the 3rd frame then it's position is 2 |
| 08:06.50 | iamhef | but it's still frame # three |
| 08:06.54 | Industrial | .net |
| 08:07.15 | wuwu | hm |
| 08:07.26 | wuwu | www.pastey.net |
| 08:07.32 | iamhef | http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 08:07.46 | wuwu | http://www.pastey.net/2930 |
| 08:08.59 | wuwu | oh and that SetPoint does work how I have |
| 08:09.05 | wuwu | must have been a wowbench bug |
| 08:09.12 | iamhef | ok |
| 08:09.15 | iamhef | probably so |
| 08:10.28 | wuwu | hmm something is definately wrong |
| 08:10.31 | wuwu | ugh |
| 08:10.37 | wuwu | make ur debugger 1.x compatible! |
| 08:10.39 | iamhef | i'm looking it over.... |
| 08:10.41 | iamhef | lol |
| 08:10.47 | wuwu | hehe |
| 08:10.58 | iamhef | you could always try to test it on the ptr |
| 08:12.44 | Nickenyfiken | what debugger? |
| 08:12.57 | iamhef | it's not actually a debugger =\ |
| 08:13.01 | iamhef | it's a debug mod |
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| 08:13.28 | wuwu | i think |
| 08:13.30 | wuwu | it has to do |
| 08:13.33 | wuwu | with no rebinding |
| 08:13.40 | wuwu | possibly? |
| 08:13.56 | iamhef | hmm possibly |
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| 08:14.04 | iamhef | @Nickenyfiken here's the readme: http://wowi.pastey.net/2929 |
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| 08:14.31 | wuwu | because i have 3 people in group besides myself |
| 08:14.41 | wuwu | and sometimes ill /moveit 3 up |
| 08:14.48 | wuwu | and it switches with spot #1 |
| 08:15.16 | iamhef | wait, so /moveit 3 will switch frame3 with frame1 ? |
| 08:15.21 | iamhef | or frame3 with frame2? |
| 08:16.29 | Industrial | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6170-SmartBuff_TBC.html |
| 08:16.30 | Industrial | How is this possible in TBC |
| 08:16.43 | wuwu | frame3 with 2 |
| 08:16.46 | Industrial | I mean isnt it so that you cant cast any spells anymore? |
| 08:16.48 | wuwu | since it was up |
| 08:16.58 | Nickenyfiken | iamhef: nice |
| 08:17.14 | wuwu | it works in most cases |
| 08:17.19 | wuwu | but not 100% |
| 08:17.26 | Nickenyfiken | Industrial: i guess its possible OOC |
| 08:17.50 | iamhef | ooc? |
| 08:17.53 | Industrial | meh |
| 08:17.56 | Industrial | out of combat |
| 08:17.58 | iamhef | oh |
| 08:18.10 | Mr_Rabies | Man, I'm addicted to Garry's Mod: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3656/csmilitia0001sz4.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1201/csmilitia0002qf5.jpg |
| 08:19.18 | wuwu | @iamhef, can I change the name of the frame? |
| 08:19.21 | Nickenyfiken | what are does images from? |
| 08:19.22 | wuwu | I believe that is the issue |
| 08:19.25 | iamhef | @wuwu, no |
| 08:19.45 | wuwu | :[ |
| 08:19.48 | Mr_Rabies | <Nickenyfiken> what are does images from? |
| 08:19.52 | iamhef | @wuwu i think rebinding is the issue |
| 08:19.54 | Mr_Rabies | garry's mod, a hl2 mod :o |
| 08:20.01 | Nickenyfiken | ah ok |
| 08:20.01 | wuwu | rebinding probably |
| 08:20.05 | Mr_Rabies | i'm so addicted to it now :P |
| 08:20.07 | iamhef | @wuwu if you're moving 3 then 4 is bound to it |
| 08:20.14 | Mr_Rabies | the super depth of field feature is amazing |
| 08:20.21 | iamhef | so 4 is moved with it and sitting on top of 2, thus hiding it |
| 08:20.25 | iamhef | i think |
| 08:20.28 | wuwu | ah |
| 08:20.35 | wuwu | well i only have to rebind 2 of them? |
| 08:20.37 | wuwu | or all? |
| 08:20.39 | iamhef | i'd have to see a screenshot but that'd be my guess |
| 08:20.41 | wuwu | will* |
| 08:20.55 | wuwu | or depends |
| 08:21.01 | iamhef | 3 of them |
| 08:21.11 | iamhef | think about it like a doubly linked list |
| 08:21.19 | iamhef | and you're swapping 2 list nodes |
| 08:21.23 | wuwu | ah |
| 08:21.25 | wuwu | ugh |
| 08:21.28 | iamhef | err not doubly linked |
| 08:21.31 | iamhef | just single linked |
| 08:21.34 | iamhef | so 3 rebindings |
| 08:21.41 | wuwu | ok iamhef |
| 08:23.10 | wuwu | @iamhef, mind writing a quick example for each loop |
| 08:23.25 | wuwu | based on GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 08:23.52 | iamhef | lol ok, my brain is slowing down though, so gimme a sec |
| 08:24.10 | wuwu | hehe np appreciate it |
| 08:25.41 | iamhef | the only thing is you're going to have to refresh party frame positions when someone leaves the party... that could get messy |
| 08:26.36 | wuwu | why is that? |
| 08:27.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=16172 |
| 08:27.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | bahaha |
| 08:27.09 | wuwu | blizzard doesnt handle that? |
| 08:27.17 | iamhef | b/c otherwise it might just leave a gap... the blizz code does some funny stuff to rearrange things i think |
| 08:27.22 | wuwu | oh |
| 08:27.24 | wuwu | well |
| 08:27.34 | wuwu | i just want to get the basics working |
| 08:28.01 | wuwu | this is my alpha build! |
| 08:28.02 | wuwu | lol |
| 08:28.11 | iamhef | well lemme ask you this, do you really want to be able to reorder frames or are you disinctly trying to make the main tank your first frame? |
| 08:28.41 | wuwu | i would prefer to reorder any frame |
| 08:28.50 | iamhef | ok |
| 08:28.54 | wuwu | i like casters under the mt |
| 08:29.03 | wuwu | but mostly it is mt |
| 08:29.09 | wuwu | that i want first |
| 08:29.24 | wuwu | i would feel bad not making flexible code too |
| 08:29.27 | wuwu | that's mostly the reason |
| 08:29.28 | wuwu | lol |
| 08:29.41 | iamhef | ah, see i think that's a classic mistake |
| 08:29.59 | iamhef | too flexible == feature bloat ... that's how we end up with microsoft office ;-) |
| 08:29.59 | wuwu | hehe |
| 08:30.09 | wuwu | well |
| 08:30.15 | wuwu | when i thought of this |
| 08:30.16 | iamhef | but i'll work on it... |
| 08:30.19 | wuwu | i wanted to be able to move any |
| 08:30.27 | wuwu | i think its the binding like you said |
| 08:30.50 | grimman | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?INV_Misc_TheGoldenCheep.jpg << o_o? |
| 08:31.11 | iamhef | @grim ... it polymorphs them into a hood ornament? |
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| 08:31.33 | iamhef | oh Cheep, lol, not Sheep |
| 08:31.33 | grimman | Probably. |
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| 08:35.00 | Saeris | Is it against Blizzard's design goals for a macro to choose an item to use based on whether or not the player is in a battleground? |
| 08:36.52 | Saeris | I'm assuming yes, since there is no existing macro option to do so. |
| 08:37.12 | iamhef | you could always request it on the forums... |
| 08:37.16 | iamhef | it may just be an oversight |
| 08:38.03 | Industrial | this quest wants me to grab troll juju :P |
| 08:38.12 | [Liquidor] | Woah I just watched a movie of a priest soloing Molten Core :P |
| 08:38.23 | iamhef | lol that's awesome |
| 08:38.27 | iamhef | lvl 70 i take it? |
| 08:38.35 | Industrial | you mean getting to the instance right? |
| 08:38.50 | [Liquidor] | ye ;) |
| 08:38.57 | [Liquidor] | But sounds better the way I said it :) |
| 08:39.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 08:39.44 | [Liquidor] | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6841190471657434124 |
| 08:40.03 | [Liquidor] | Just Fanatik running through MC |
| 08:40.15 | [Liquidor] | Found it after I saw his Tier 4 and 5 movies |
| 08:40.57 | wuwu | whats wrong with my for loop? |
| 08:40.59 | wuwu | for i = 1, i <= GetNumPartyMembers(), ++i do |
| 08:41.32 | wuwu | unexpected symbol near `+' |
| 08:41.32 | iamhef | lol not valid syntax |
| 08:41.44 | Saeris | Lua for loops specify a beginning integer, an end integer, and a step. Nothing else. |
| 08:41.46 | iamhef | for i = 1, GetNumPartyMembers() do |
| 08:41.52 | wuwu | oh |
| 08:41.53 | Saeris | So you would want ... yeah, what iamhef said. |
| 08:42.10 | wuwu | ty |
| 08:42.11 | Saeris | If the step is absent, it is assumed to be +1 |
| 08:42.18 | Fisker | has anyone tested TBH rep in 2.0.1? |
| 08:42.18 | Corr[home] | why is it that he was able to cast PW:S so many times, but then it ended near the end? |
| 08:42.26 | wuwu | kk |
| 08:42.48 | [Liquidor] | wuwu: anyway if you want to tell it to step +1 then it's i++ ;) |
| 08:43.00 | Industrial | no |
| 08:43.08 | [Liquidor] | not? |
| 08:43.09 | Industrial | for 1,20,2 do |
| 08:43.13 | Industrial | step of 2 |
| 08:43.28 | [Liquidor] | uhm long time I've done a loop like that in lua anyway |
| 08:43.36 | Corr[home] | for (;;) {} |
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| 08:43.46 | Nickenyfiken | i++ is not valid syntax |
| 08:44.30 | Industrial | i=i+1 :P |
| 08:44.36 | Nickenyfiken | yup |
| 08:44.41 | Nickenyfiken | i actually hate it |
| 08:44.46 | Nickenyfiken | too used to c++ |
| 08:45.39 | inside_blank | heh |
| 08:45.43 | inside_blank | I couldn't get into lua syntax |
| 08:45.46 | inside_blank | then I couldn't get out of it. |
| 08:46.12 | [Liquidor] | yarr well when you've touched all the diff. languages you sometimes mess it up together :) |
| 08:46.27 | inside_blank | Actually.. |
| 08:46.30 | wuwu | ok ty Liquidor |
| 08:46.37 | Fisker | atleast it's usually only the syntax that differs |
| 08:46.50 | [Liquidor] | i++, i=i+1, i+=1, i.=1... |
| 08:47.07 | pastamancer | I don't miss c++ at all. '..' vs '.' for string concatenation screws me up when I go back to perl though |
| 08:47.13 | Industrial | i=i+1 makes most sense imo |
| 08:47.28 | [Liquidor] | I only do .= with JS |
| 08:47.31 | Industrial | I want + for string concatenation |
| 08:47.43 | [Liquidor] | otherwise I do it the slow way: v=v+1 |
| 08:48.15 | Industrial | but i guess ppl will nag about 'foo'+1 etc |
| 08:48.40 | [Liquidor] | as a line like that? |
| 08:48.48 | [Liquidor] | v+1; ? |
| 08:48.51 | wuwu | string concat without using a string buffer kills performance |
| 08:48.55 | wuwu | unless its a small amount |
| 08:49.04 | wuwu | found that out the hard way @ work |
| 08:49.07 | wuwu | lol |
| 08:49.27 | wuwu | was concatting 20 diff strings together |
| 08:49.43 | Industrial | string.format frw |
| 08:49.46 | Industrial | ftw |
| 08:49.51 | wuwu | hehe |
| 08:50.03 | wuwu | StringBuffer.AppendFormat! |
| 08:50.08 | pastamancer | it creates an anonymous strinbuffer for each concatenation, right? |
| 08:50.13 | MoonWolf | but string format is more to type out |
| 08:50.21 | MoonWolf | its so easy to go "string".."string" |
| 08:50.27 | [Liquidor] | yes pastamancer |
| 08:50.38 | Saeris | How was that priest outrunning everything in MC? |
| 08:50.58 | pastamancer | I try to forget java, but it's harder than it sounds :( |
| 08:51.16 | [Liquidor] | well with java you're forced to know OOP |
| 08:51.18 | Industrial | i need to learn it next year |
| 08:51.19 | Industrial | :p |
| 08:51.21 | [Liquidor] | I belive? |
| 08:51.35 | Nickenyfiken | anyone tried ruby on rails? |
| 08:51.50 | [Liquidor] | I've grinded on rails before |
| 08:51.51 | Industrial | yeah but i didnt know ruby |
| 08:51.55 | Industrial | :p |
| 08:52.15 | pastamancer | RoR is nice if you need to develop the kind of application that it's designed for |
| 08:52.26 | [Liquidor] | RoR? |
| 08:52.33 | Nickenyfiken | isnt it for web 2.0 only? |
| 08:52.33 | Saeris | Ruby on Rails |
| 08:52.41 | Industrial | lol. |
| 08:52.49 | [Liquidor] | Oh it's a language? o.O |
| 08:52.52 | pastamancer | otherwise all of the implied stuff is more confusing than not |
| 08:52.54 | Industrial | web2.0 is non existant |
| 08:52.59 | pastamancer | it's a web framework |
| 08:53.01 | [Liquidor] | I thought Ruby on Rails was some sort of a game |
| 08:53.01 | Industrial | its a marketing stunt |
| 08:53.18 | Nickenyfiken | well ok isnt it for creating web content only? |
| 08:53.24 | pastamancer | ruby itself is a neat language, althhough it's a bit on the slow side |
| 08:53.25 | wuwu | RoR is |
| 08:53.26 | [Liquidor] | Okay, so why RoR > .NET ? |
| 08:53.33 | wuwu | but not plain ruby |
| 08:53.38 | Nickenyfiken | oki |
| 08:53.41 | wuwu | i believe |
| 08:53.49 | [Liquidor] | Omg fellas |
| 08:53.55 | [Liquidor] | I can't take that name serious :P |
| 08:54.10 | [Liquidor] | You sure it's not a game? :) |
| 08:54.31 | Industrial | no its just a fad |
| 08:54.37 | Industrial | http://www.rubyonrails.org/ |
| 08:54.46 | ckknight | it is just a fad |
| 08:54.46 | wuwu | not a fad really.. |
| 08:54.52 | pastamancer | actually, it's a game about Jack Ruby trying to assasinate JFK while riding a skateboard |
| 08:54.52 | wuwu | its been out in japan for a while |
| 08:54.53 | ckknight | I wonder when it'll blow over |
| 08:55.01 | ckknight | everything's out in Japan. |
| 08:55.01 | Industrial | Rapid Web Developement! Agile Programming! |
| 08:55.04 | wuwu | lol |
| 08:55.09 | ckknight | Agile with a capital A. |
| 08:55.14 | Industrial | Web 2.0! |
| 08:55.17 | Nickenyfiken | LoL |
| 08:55.23 | Nickenyfiken | Lua in Liquor |
| 08:55.26 | [Liquidor] | It looks great and simple |
| 08:55.38 | ckknight | Django's better. |
| 08:55.56 | [Liquidor] | Shouldn't you US guys be in bed by now? |
| 08:56.04 | Industrial | 9:55 AM |
| 08:56.06 | ckknight | Hawaii |
| 08:56.09 | ckknight | 10:56 PM |
| 08:56.10 | Industrial | the netherlands |
| 08:56.43 | wuwu | 2:55 AM |
| 08:56.43 | [Liquidor] | 9:56 AM |
| 08:56.43 | Industrial | http://www.djangoproject.com/ |
| 08:56.43 | Industrial | [Liquidor]: --^ |
| 08:57.24 | [Liquidor] | Somehow I get bored looking at a website with that design. |
| 08:58.24 | [Liquidor] | Looks simple, maybe too simple? |
| 08:59.02 | iamhef | i'm a django fan over rails myself |
| 08:59.07 | iamhef | 2:59 AM |
| 08:59.17 | iamhef | ...just catching up with the conversation :P |
| 08:59.20 | iamhef | @wuwu http://www.pastey.net/2931 |
| 08:59.57 | iamhef | @Nickenyfiekn (Ka)Lua in Liquor? :-D |
| 09:00.11 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 09:00.45 | Nickenyfiken | why addon_function? |
| 09:00.55 | iamhef | que pasa? |
| 09:00.55 | [Liquidor] | 'MoveIT_data[i], MoveIT_data[j] = MoveIT_data[j], MoveIT_data[i]' -- <3 |
| 09:01.03 | iamhef | lol |
| 09:01.18 | wuwu | @iamhef, wow ty |
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| 09:01.25 | iamhef | @Nickenyfiken ooo b/c that's the convention he already had |
| 09:01.39 | wuwu | i dunno |
| 09:01.42 | iamhef | i'm a fan of local addon = {} function addon:method() |
| 09:01.44 | wuwu | i was looking at other mods and seen that |
| 09:01.52 | iamhef | @wuwu yeah that's fine |
| 09:02.01 | iamhef | it's done so that your function names don't collide with other ppl's |
| 09:02.07 | iamhef | cuz they're all put in the global namespace |
| 09:02.10 | wuwu | oh i rather do that |
| 09:02.21 | [Liquidor] | hmm can't remember (couple of weeks since I worked with lua) but us casing possible? Or should that be done with tables instead? |
| 09:02.22 | Nickenyfiken | why have them in the global namespace? |
| 09:02.32 | ckknight | casing? |
| 09:02.32 | wuwu | trust me, i cringed appending my mod name |
| 09:02.37 | iamhef | my KICS framework is designed so taht nothing goes in the global namespace except a root Kics tables :) |
| 09:02.38 | wuwu | to my methods |
| 09:02.38 | [Liquidor] | cases |
| 09:02.53 | ckknight | what about cases? |
| 09:02.55 | [Liquidor] | Not sure what the name of it is actually |
| 09:03.01 | wuwu | @iamhef, i didn't want all that code :x |
| 09:03.01 | iamhef | swtich statements? |
| 09:03.05 | ckknight | describe it? |
| 09:03.07 | [Liquidor] | yeah that's it |
| 09:03.11 | iamhef | @wuwu what code? |
| 09:03.13 | wuwu | hehe, sorry for not being more clear |
| 09:03.18 | iamhef | @Liq no, not in lua |
| 09:03.20 | wuwu | the code to handle all my moves |
| 09:03.21 | [Liquidor] | gah I hate my bad Eng :) |
| 09:03.26 | iamhef | got to do if elseif |
| 09:03.27 | ckknight | lua doesn't have a switch statement |
| 09:03.35 | [Liquidor] | So tables would be the answer? |
| 09:03.38 | ckknight | instead, you could use a lot of if statements or a table of functions |
| 09:03.51 | iamhef | @wuwu but that's what you said you wanted! =P |
| 09:04.00 | Nickenyfiken | oh tables with functions i have never tried that |
| 09:04.05 | wuwu | @iamhef, what i meant was an example foreach loop |
| 09:04.11 | wuwu | that did nothing |
| 09:04.13 | wuwu | just the shell |
| 09:04.15 | [Liquidor] | Try, it's fun |
| 09:04.17 | iamhef | hahahahahaha |
| 09:04.24 | wuwu | hehe |
| 09:04.37 | wuwu | but at least now |
| 09:04.41 | iamhef | :P |
| 09:04.42 | wuwu | i have somewhere to look if i get stuck |
| 09:04.44 | [Liquidor] | hahah *interacting* |
| 09:04.46 | wuwu | :) |
| 09:05.14 | wuwu | ok, need to take a break from this lil project |
| 09:05.16 | wuwu | night all |
| 09:05.20 | iamhef | gnight |
| 09:05.24 | [Liquidor] | morning |
| 09:05.30 | Nickenyfiken | uhm is pvp faction rep useless in wow 2.x? |
| 09:05.46 | [Liquidor] | uhm can't remember |
| 09:06.07 | [Liquidor] | mounts are cheaper |
| 09:06.12 | Nickenyfiken | so i cant get like unstopable force and don julie from AV when exhalted? |
| 09:06.16 | [Liquidor] | that's all there is left I belive |
| 09:06.27 | [Liquidor] | no those will disappear |
| 09:06.30 | iamhef | hey nick did you ever say if you were on a PvE server or not? |
| 09:06.37 | Nickenyfiken | nope |
| 09:07.32 | Nickenyfiken | i think i may have one pve char, rest i pvp |
| 09:07.32 | iamhef | o i c |
| 09:07.32 | iamhef | =\ |
| 09:07.32 | Nickenyfiken | no char > lvl 30 on a pve atleast |
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| 09:07.34 | [Liquidor] | US or EU Nickenyfiken ? |
| 09:07.34 | Nickenyfiken | EU |
| 09:07.34 | [Liquidor] | Alliance? |
| 09:07.55 | [Liquidor] | Got an ally char at the PTR? |
| 09:07.58 | Nickenyfiken | yes i got a gnome female lvl 1 |
| 09:08.01 | Nickenyfiken | warlock i think |
| 09:08.04 | iamhef | i got a 60 warrior |
| 09:08.05 | Nickenyfiken | :-P |
| 09:08.08 | [Liquidor] | bah |
| 09:08.12 | iamhef | oh wait, nvm, on beta i do |
| 09:08.19 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 09:08.21 | Nickenyfiken | i got my 60 undead mage on PTR tho |
| 09:08.31 | [Liquidor] | was going to ask for some arena fighting |
| 09:08.37 | Nickenyfiken | ah |
| 09:08.44 | Industrial | anyone seen Blood+? is it good? |
| 09:09.03 | Nickenyfiken | i med one 2 vs 2 and got owned cus i had no bar mods or anything so my buttons was a mess |
| 09:09.06 | [Liquidor] | Blood+? -- ? |
| 09:09.10 | Industrial | anime |
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| 09:09.20 | [Liquidor] | Nah |
| 09:09.38 | [Liquidor] | brb |
| 09:12.20 | Arrowmaster | Industrial, yes its very good |
| 09:13.02 | Industrial | k |
| 09:13.23 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: watch Eureka Seven (if you havent already). Its good :> |
| 09:13.51 | Arrowmaster | ill add it to my list |
| 09:14.05 | Arrowmaster | aka going to go find it now since i have nothing new to watch lately |
| 09:15.08 | [Liquidor] | You guys know Line Rider? |
| 09:18.11 | Nickenyfiken | bah well... i want to grind AV to be able to buy the exhalted rewards... but if i dont make it in time before 2.x my grind will be a waste? |
| 09:18.47 | Arrowmaster | you have like 3 days to grind |
| 09:18.49 | Arrowmaster | gogogo |
| 09:19.04 | Nickenyfiken | hehe :-) |
| 09:19.06 | Arrowmaster | more like 2 days |
| 09:19.43 | Nickenyfiken | well im in EU |
| 09:19.48 | Nickenyfiken | one day extra |
| 09:19.50 | Nickenyfiken | or so |
| 09:19.54 | [Liquidor] | Took me 2 days with my mage at levle 56 |
| 09:20.25 | [Liquidor] | Level 56 -> 57 = Neutral -> Honored |
| 09:20.35 | [Liquidor] | Level 57 -> 58 = Honored -> Exalted |
| 09:20.38 | [Liquidor] | 1 day each |
| 09:20.51 | Nickenyfiken | im like 60% from exhalted |
| 09:20.57 | [Liquidor] | Lol ! |
| 09:21.00 | [Liquidor] | One evening then |
| 09:21.10 | [Liquidor] | Go get the rewards while they're there |
| 09:21.23 | [Liquidor] | Is the next patch comming next week? |
| 09:21.41 | Inside | tuesday |
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| 09:21.50 | Inside | you wont be able to get the PVP rewards, however |
| 09:22.37 | jaxdahl | rank rewards, that is |
| 09:22.41 | jaxdahl | honor is calculated at 3am |
| 09:22.45 | jaxdahl | servers are going down at 1am |
| 09:23.04 | jaxdahl | you will get a new title if you did enough, but won't be able to buy stuff the title confers |
| 09:23.50 | Inside | right |
| 09:28.03 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 09:28.18 | Nickenyfiken | no my rank sucks i havent played the char for a year |
| 09:28.23 | Nickenyfiken | i just want the AV rep ranks |
| 09:30.06 | Corr[home] | well, i've pretty easily convinced LinkWrangler to work in 2.0, except that the dressing room button seems to be disabled always |
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| 09:36.12 | Corr[home] | and ptr just died it seems. how sad. |
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| 09:53.46 | Corr[home] | two questions. 1) can i convert "unpack(arg)" to "unpack(...)" for 2.0? 2) what should i replace things like "arg1" with? |
| 09:54.34 | [Liquidor] | jaxdahl: if I'm not completely mistaken then ranks are resetted |
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| 10:01.11 | iamhef|afk | @Corr 1) no need to unpack(args) cuz "unpack(args) == ..." |
| 10:01.27 | iamhef | @Corr 2) arg1 == select(1, ...) |
| 10:01.38 | ckknight | arg1 stays arg1 |
| 10:01.52 | iamhef | oooh you means the global? |
| 10:01.56 | ckknight | arg turns into { ... }, unpack(arg) turns into ... |
| 10:02.44 | Industrial | Why is ... or unpack() needed anyway |
| 10:02.47 | Industrial | I have never needed it |
| 10:03.10 | iamhef | you've never used args for a variable number of parameters? |
| 10:03.22 | Industrial | no? |
| 10:03.25 | iamhef | i mean, it's not bad if you haven't, it can be useful tho :) |
| 10:03.46 | Industrial | I dont like insecurities like that :p |
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| 10:03.57 | iamhef | lol |
| 10:04.03 | ckknight | it's extremely handy in some situations |
| 10:05.53 | [Liquidor] | rofl ckknight I've found you on the intarweb !!! |
| 10:05.56 | [Liquidor] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-x_4W3i4gg |
| 10:06.00 | [Liquidor] | wuhjaa |
| 10:06.39 | ckknight | um |
| 10:06.40 | iamhef | lol wow |
| 10:06.42 | ckknight | I don't think so |
| 10:06.48 | [Liquidor] | orly? |
| 10:07.13 | ckknight | I'm a skinny fucker. |
| 10:08.09 | ckknight | why would you say that was me? |
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| 10:09.37 | [Liquidor] | his dance |
| 10:09.42 | iamhef | fking gaim |
| 10:09.53 | ckknight | ... |
| 10:10.28 | iamhef | so did i miss the conversation over why the video is related to ck? |
| 10:10.34 | iamhef | cuz that sounded like fun ;-) |
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| 10:11.01 | ckknight | it's not |
| 10:11.10 | ckknight | [Liquidor] is just blowing steam |
| 10:11.10 | iamhef | lol |
| 10:11.18 | [Liquidor] | I haven't slept all night |
| 10:11.27 | [Liquidor] | and still got my cap on from yesterday |
| 10:11.28 | [Liquidor] | -.- |
| 10:12.13 | Corr[home] | what a pleasant surprise that minimalist, mapnotes, and luaslinger have working versions for 2.0 (or will work if you run AL's script on them and change the .toc) |
| 10:16.04 | iamhef | hmmm... sleepytime methinks |
| 10:16.07 | iamhef | good night all |
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| 10:30.46 | [Cu]Werik | Morning folk |
| 10:34.13 | Industrial | having 6 arguments table lookups and function calls on one line is anoying when SOMETHING is nil |
| 10:34.22 | Industrial | sadfasdf |
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| 10:47.57 | Nickenyfiken | hehe yeah |
| 10:48.05 | Nickenyfiken | lua can be hard to debug sometimes |
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| 10:58.32 | Corr[home] | looks like Notepad has more significant problems in 2.0 than i hoped |
| 11:02.03 | wuwu | in for loops.. |
| 11:02.16 | wuwu | is the end integer |
| 11:02.21 | wuwu | <= or < |
| 11:02.31 | wuwu | so like (int i = 1; i < 3; ++i) |
| 11:02.35 | wuwu | or i <= 3 |
| 11:02.51 | Corr[home] | it depends on how far you want it to go |
| 11:02.58 | wuwu | well i have i = 2 |
| 11:03.03 | wuwu | and the end is 4 |
| 11:03.10 | wuwu | but i want it to do something on 4 |
| 11:03.20 | wuwu | will it? |
| 11:03.32 | Corr[home] | allow me to explain how a FOR structure works |
| 11:03.40 | wuwu | i know how they work |
| 11:03.43 | wuwu | not in lua |
| 11:03.45 | Corr[home] | then you already know the answer |
| 11:03.51 | wuwu | no |
| 11:04.04 | Corr[home] | then you don't know how they work. |
| 11:04.08 | wuwu | in any other language i'm familiar with |
| 11:04.11 | wuwu | i have to tell it |
| 11:04.14 | wuwu | < or <= |
| 11:04.23 | Corr[home] | that's the same for all languages |
| 11:04.36 | wuwu | int i = 0; i < 4; ++i |
| 11:04.37 | wuwu | or is it |
| 11:04.40 | Corr[home] | or at least it works the same way in C, java, and C# |
| 11:04.43 | wuwu | int i = 0; i <= 4; ++i |
| 11:04.45 | wuwu | yes |
| 11:04.47 | wuwu | im talking lua |
| 11:05.03 | wuwu | will it go to 3 or 4 in lua |
| 11:05.11 | wuwu | with the above |
| 11:05.32 | Corr[home] | i haven't tested it, but i would happily assume that it works exactly the same way as it does in java |
| 11:05.41 | ckknight_ | for i = 1, 4 do ... end |
| 11:05.41 | wuwu | in java you have to be explicit |
| 11:05.46 | ckknight_ | goes from [1, 4] |
| 11:06.01 | wuwu | ok ty ckknight_ |
| 11:06.04 | Corr[home] | if it doesn't use the same syntax, then i have no idea |
| 11:06.26 | Corr[home] | but the way you described it was with the same syntax as the others use |
| 11:06.45 | wuwu | lua is the only language i encountered |
| 11:06.50 | wuwu | except maybe save basic |
| 11:07.11 | Corr[home] | then why did you say you understand how a FOR loop works in the other languages? |
| 11:07.20 | wuwu | umm because i do? |
| 11:07.36 | Corr[home] | you understand it, but you've never encountered them? |
| 11:07.53 | wuwu | in csharp int = 0; i < 3; ++i will execute 3 times |
| 11:08.04 | wuwu | while int = 0; i <= 3; ++i will execute 4 times |
| 11:08.47 | [Cu]Werik | erm |
| 11:08.59 | Corr[home] | now that you mention it, ++i is an uncommon thing to use. does that evaluate before incrementing? |
| 11:09.04 | [Cu]Werik | it will execute 2 and 3 times respectably |
| 11:09.16 | wuwu | 0, 1, 2 |
| 11:09.27 | wuwu | @corr, it doesn't matter in a for loop |
| 11:09.35 | wuwu | as far as i know |
| 11:09.51 | Corr[home] | quite possibly not |
| 11:10.05 | axxo | it doesn't, just a perfomance thing in c/c++ |
| 11:10.15 | axxo | i++ creates a copy whie ++i doesn't |
| 11:10.23 | wuwu | ah |
| 11:10.25 | wuwu | good to know |
| 11:10.33 | Corr[home] | very interesting |
| 11:11.02 | axxo | i++ also returns i, while ++i returns i+1 |
| 11:11.04 | Corr[home] | so if you were to say int x = ++i, will x = i before the increment or after? |
| 11:11.19 | [Cu]Werik | after |
| 11:11.28 | Corr[home] | okay. i had it backwards. |
| 11:11.36 | Corr[home] | backward? |
| 11:11.43 | [Cu]Werik | since i is after the increment operator:) |
| 11:12.01 | wuwu | aye, i avoid using ++ unless its by itself |
| 11:12.06 | wuwu | avoid the confusion |
| 11:12.45 | axxo | and if you go like i = i++ + ++i, you get undefiuned behavior, and lotsa fun :) |
| 11:13.04 | Industrial | its not showing.. |
| 11:13.10 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.12 | Corr[home] | sadly, the test realm version of Cosmos does -not- include an updated version of Notepad :( |
| 11:13.16 | Industrial | 1.12 |
| 11:13.21 | Corr[home] | i really should look for a more... cared-for notepad addon |
| 11:13.35 | Industrial | Corr[home]: theres one for tbc. |
| 11:13.45 | Corr[home] | undefined behavior, eh? |
| 11:14.06 | Corr[home] | one what? a notepad addon? i remember seeing several notepad addons back in the day. |
| 11:15.10 | [Cu]Werik | axxo, does that work at all?:) Will it increment i by 2?:) |
| 11:15.47 | [Cu]Werik | erm nvm, I said something stupid now:) |
| 11:16.31 | axxo | [Cu]Werik: you get something diffrend depending on compiler :) |
| 11:16.46 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 11:16.51 | axxo | its even allowed to crash |
| 11:17.17 | [Cu]Werik | Well, crash makes sense. It crashes my head too |
| 11:17.21 | Corr[home] | and to steal your dog |
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| 11:23.05 | Corr[home] | to me, the Notepad addon in Cosmos was just perfect :( |
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| 11:34.55 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/2932 |
| 11:35.20 | Industrial | Thats what im using for my actionbar |
| 11:35.41 | Industrial | makes 3 bars with the ActionButton MultiBarButtomleft button and right |
| 11:35.55 | Industrial | and puts em on top of eachother at the bottom center of the screen |
| 11:35.56 | Industrial | BUT |
| 11:36.26 | Industrial | each bar shows the same contents.. |
| 11:36.35 | Industrial | using devtools to inspect the frames, they are different buttons |
| 11:36.44 | Industrial | .. weirdness |
| 11:37.20 | wuwu | how do I return a table from a function? |
| 11:37.27 | Industrial | return {} |
| 11:37.34 | wuwu | is it different than ok |
| 11:37.39 | wuwu | return {result}; |
| 11:37.40 | wuwu | ? |
| 11:37.57 | Industrial | if result is the table then |
| 11:37.59 | Industrial | return result |
| 11:38.19 | Industrial | also, ; are not needed |
| 11:38.30 | Industrial | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_120206_1236480b7.jpg |
| 11:38.33 | wuwu | ah |
| 11:38.40 | wuwu | ty |
| 11:38.43 | Industrial | np |
| 11:39.10 | Industrial | about the pic: there you can see that its not ActionButton1 but it does have Wrath in it |
| 11:39.12 | Corr[home] | the problem with most notepad addons is that they use a bad font or they don't give you different note buttons with titles and make you scroll through all of them |
| 11:39.15 | Industrial | wich is on the first bar |
| 11:39.22 | Industrial | if i pull it off it pulls it off on all bars |
| 11:39.42 | Industrial | Corr[home]: been there done that TinyPad has some addons to use a monospace font |
| 11:39.49 | Industrial | and color lua code |
| 11:39.50 | Corr[home] | well, now, that's kinda weird. you say the button isn't the same? |
| 11:40.02 | Industrial | Corr[home]: yes |
| 11:40.31 | Industrial | Corr[home]: TinyPad + ForAllIndentsAndPurPoses and one ive forgot thats probably in the chat downloads section |
| 11:40.35 | Corr[home] | that's not a bad start, tinypad, but it looks like it has no index of notes, like you have to scroll through all your notes |
| 11:40.54 | Industrial | I dont know more, I dont use those addons :) |
| 11:42.06 | Industrial | if anyone would like to help me; http://pastey.net/2932 |
| 11:42.17 | Industrial | that'd be great :P |
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| 11:43.20 | wuwu | Dolby-wowi: no variable types is really angering me |
| 11:43.43 | wuwu | i mean if im using an index of an array |
| 11:43.46 | wuwu | please assume its a number |
| 11:44.00 | Industrial | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#2.2 |
| 11:44.13 | wuwu | yea |
| 11:44.15 | wuwu | no me gusta |
| 11:44.30 | Industrial | wuwu: pastey the code, maybe I can help/comment on it |
| 11:44.40 | Industrial | pastey.net |
| 11:44.41 | Industrial | :) |
| 11:45.08 | wuwu | sec i almost have it working |
| 11:45.16 | wuwu | just running into language specific probs :( |
| 11:45.36 | wuwu | plus its so sloppy now |
| 11:45.39 | wuwu | i'd be embarassed |
| 11:45.44 | Industrial | well you can loop through a table with key/value pairs and as an iterator |
| 11:45.50 | Industrial | for k,v in pairs(t) do |
| 11:45.50 | Industrial | and |
| 11:45.52 | wuwu | +r |
| 11:46.06 | Industrial | for i in ipairs(t) do |
| 11:46.15 | wuwu | ok |
| 11:47.27 | wuwu | give me ints and strings |
| 11:47.29 | wuwu | and ill be happy |
| 11:47.30 | wuwu | lol |
| 11:48.12 | wuwu | Industrial: do you always do tonumber(s) |
| 11:48.15 | wuwu | just to be safe? |
| 11:59.57 | VoidRaider | morning :) |
| 12:01.12 | Industrial | wuwu: no not really |
| 12:01.29 | Industrial | wuwu: havent really had problems with types yet in lua |
| 12:03.24 | Industrial | ohayou VoidRaider |
| 12:10.24 | Corr[home] | Notepad works just fine with my edits except for 2 things, very frustrating things |
| 12:10.57 | Corr[home] | for one, it tries to make local button = getglobal("NotepadEntry"..i);. button is then nil, even though if i call that myself with another addon, i get the right frame. |
| 12:11.12 | Corr[home] | with i being one of the appropriate integers |
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| 12:14.10 | Corr[home] | the other problem is that it apparently tries to call a protected function whenever i press escape to bring up the game menu, even if the notepad frame isn't showing |
| 12:15.00 | Corr[home] | i wouldn't even know where to begin to look for THAT |
| 12:15.34 | Mery | is a rogue always out of combat when in stealth? |
| 12:16.23 | Corr[home] | not sure... |
| 12:16.50 | Corr[home] | is it possible to enter combat just by being -near- combat, without attacking or taking damage? |
| 12:17.03 | axxo | no |
| 12:17.14 | Corr[home] | i seem to recall that it happens in ZG even if i'm not doing anything. maybe i'm mistaken. |
| 12:17.17 | axxo | but alot of mobs have aoe abilities |
| 12:17.19 | axxo | that will hit you |
| 12:17.31 | axxo | ah, instances is diffrend |
| 12:17.45 | Corr[home] | isn't there a boss fight in one of the instances that forces everyone into combat to prevent you from ooc rezzing? |
| 12:18.00 | axxo | every boss forces everyone in the instance into combat |
| 12:18.09 | axxo | since some patch x |
| 12:18.12 | Thorarin | Boss fights enter everyone into combat |
| 12:18.24 | Thorarin | Some trash also puts everyone in an area into combat |
| 12:18.29 | axxo | and you can't zone in anymore |
| 12:18.54 | Corr[home] | so i'm thinking a rogue could be put into combat while still in stealth |
| 12:19.12 | Corr[home] | does he stay stealthed? |
| 12:35.46 | sylvanaar | yes usually |
| 12:38.26 | kloppe | you also get put into combat by pickpocketing :) |
| 12:39.50 | sylvanaar | they will probably have to revisit the whole 'zone-wide-combat' thing |
| 12:40.56 | sylvanaar | i cant hear 'DI me so i can fix my UI' |
| 12:42.00 | sylvanaar | Can hunters FD or rogues vanish so they can adjust thiers? |
| 12:46.55 | kloppe | dunno how that thing works, but rogues never go ooc when vanishing during a boss fight |
| 12:47.22 | Mery | you don't get stealthed? |
| 12:47.25 | kloppe | I think hunters stay ooc while FD though |
| 12:47.34 | kloppe | we do get stealthed, we just don't go ooc |
| 12:48.15 | Mery | ever noticed another situation where you are stelathed and in combat? |
| 12:49.08 | kloppe | well, apart from vanishing in raids there's pickpocketing |
| 12:49.35 | kloppe | and if you stealth before a fight in an instance, but hardly anyone does that :p |
| 12:49.51 | kloppe | oh and sapping with Imp Sap, I think |
| 13:07.21 | Industrial | Can anyone help me with my actionbar please? |
| 13:07.23 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/2935 |
| 13:07.40 | Industrial | I just wanna rearrange the blizzard buttons |
| 13:07.53 | Industrial | but they seem to have the same button id's |
| 13:08.06 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.56 | Industrial | beh no fun when noones around |
| 13:13.00 | Industrial | :| |
| 13:15.51 | Mery | thanks kloppe :) |
| 13:28.41 | Corr[home] | so this Notepad button has its text set properly. GetText gets the right text. it just isn't being displayed, for some reason. |
| 13:30.05 | Corr[home] | why would the text not be showing? argh |
| 13:32.25 | Corr[home] | maybe it has no font |
| 13:38.04 | Corr[home] | <NormalText name="$parentNormalText" inherits="GameFontNormalSmall" justifyH="LEFT"> |
| 13:46.05 | Corr[home] | Button:SetFont("font", size[,"flags"]) -- but what kind of format is the "font" string? |
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| 13:56.59 | Corr[home] | now i just have to try to figure out why it causes a protection error whenever i open the game menu |
| 14:02.45 | Corr[home] | WoW accuses Notepad of calling SpellStopCasting and ClearTarget, for a couple of things. those strings don't exist anywhere within the Notepad directory. |
| 14:04.38 | Laric | hmm can it be that it taint something that uses those functions? |
| 14:04.47 | Corr[home] | nor does it exist anywhere within any of my addon directories |
| 14:04.54 | Corr[home] | now searching savedvariables... |
| 14:05.21 | Laric | I mean it perhaps taints some of the blizzard code? |
| 14:06.08 | Corr[home] | uh.. i am not familiar enough with the whole security system to answer that |
| 14:06.42 | Corr[home] | but now that you mention it, perhaps it has "tainted" the escape key handler |
| 14:06.52 | Corr[home] | how would i go about figuring out what's going on? |
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| 14:08.54 | Corr[home] | here's an OnEscapePressed handler in the XML. i'll delete it. |
| 14:09.56 | cncfanatics | dont delete it imo |
| 14:10.01 | cncfanatics | but use a secure hook of it instead ? |
| 14:10.31 | Corr[home] | amazingly, that didn't have any effect |
| 14:10.54 | Corr[home] | i know only basic LUA and WoW API. i don't know anything about secure hooking. |
| 14:11.44 | cncfanatics | oh, weird btw, i used notepad and it worked fine in beta |
| 14:12.14 | Corr[home] | where did you get it? |
| 14:12.23 | Corr[home] | the only source i can find for it is the Cosmos compilation |
| 14:12.31 | cncfanatics | ehm, lemme think |
| 14:12.52 | cncfanatics | no idea -.- |
| 14:13.02 | cncfanatics | and my history got flushed as a new month begins so I can't find it back :( |
| 14:13.29 | Corr[home] | so how can i figure out what this addon is doing that taints a function call when i press escape to open the game menu? |
| 14:14.18 | cncfanatics | taintmapper would help |
| 14:14.21 | cncfanatics | on wowi |
| 14:22.18 | Corr[home] | the end response is... "Key ToggleGameMenu is tainted". |
| 14:22.42 | cncfanatics | then search an addon hooking ToggleGameMenu |
| 14:22.50 | cncfanatics | and comment it out |
| 14:24.09 | Corr[home] | and there it is |
| 14:25.09 | Corr[home] | thanks |
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| 14:32.37 | Mery | "morning" kirkburn |
| 14:32.45 | Kirkburn | Morning |
| 14:41.41 | nevcairiel | mornin |
| 14:42.34 | Kirkburn | 67 yet, nev? :) |
| 14:43.26 | Fisker | why 67? |
| 14:43.54 | nevcairiel | working on it |
| 14:43.58 | nevcairiel | 30k xp to go |
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| 14:48.54 | Mikma | btw, anyone has the old Bartender3_Dreamlayout near? :O I kinda need it bacj |
| 14:49.01 | Mikma | s/bacj/back/ |
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| 15:10.51 | Corr[home] | EnchantMe gets me disconnected whenever i mouseover any enchantment. how sad. |
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| 15:36.21 | Corr[home] | what is the -last- event to occur when the UI loads? |
| 15:39.28 | Corr[home] | ah, found it |
| 16:02.43 | VoidRaider | Z-ya all :) |
| 16:03.04 | Cairenn|afk | later VoidRaider |
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| 18:04.06 | wuwu | @industrial, sorry I went to sleep lol |
| 18:06.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:08.52 | Shadowed | Did something change with dropdown initializing? Getting two rows with "Stratholme" and "Sunken Temple" on my dropdowns on TBC |
| 18:11.37 | wuwu | is there an api spy for wow? |
| 18:11.40 | wuwu | or something like that |
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| 18:25.29 | VoidRaider|Away | Hello :) |
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| 18:37.14 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:40.10 | wuwu | heya |
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| 19:08.07 | Kaso | Ag_UF can do raidframes cant it? |
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| 19:10.19 | Mery | wuwu: what do you mean by "api spy"? |
| 19:13.32 | wuwu | i have one in windows where i can put my mouse over a window or frame |
| 19:13.40 | wuwu | and see all its properties |
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| 19:13.59 | wuwu | and all api calls that are being fired |
| 19:14.17 | wuwu | like the one built in vs2005 |
| 19:17.58 | Mery | well i think there is nothing like that... at least not the I know of |
| 19:19.44 | Mery | the tbc devtools has a list of all events fired, but i dunno if that is what you are looking for |
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| 19:27.02 | ag` | Kaso: yes |
| 19:27.28 | Kaso | i cant work out how to, i set the raidframs to enabled and nothing happens |
| 19:31.25 | Kaso | UnitFrames -> Raid -> Hide Frames is unticked, but i see nothing |
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| 19:41.00 | Industrial | Unknown unit token: UNIT_COMBAt |
| 19:41.11 | Industrial | happens with UNIT_HEALTH |
| 19:41.16 | Industrial | and UNIT_MANA too |
| 19:41.20 | Industrial | when im in combat |
| 19:41.21 | Industrial | why |
| 19:43.51 | ag` | unit token? |
| 19:44.03 | Industrial | thats what the error says |
| 19:48.43 | Industrial | nn |
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| 20:12.46 | ckknight | Industrial, pastey |
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| 20:33.17 | Cide | http://ctscreens.net/360 |
| 20:33.20 | Cide | best screenshot ever |
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| 20:41.09 | Laric | cide will there be a ctra ready for tuesday? |
| 20:41.21 | Cide | time will tell! |
| 20:41.51 | Laric | okidoki :P |
| 20:51.33 | Kaso | ag` |
| 20:51.58 | Kaso | Sorry to sound like a noob, but how the hell do i do this -_- |
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| 21:26.21 | Cairenn | everyone busy franticly coding away trying to get ready for Tuesday? |
| 21:28.12 | ag` | I probably won't get party pets working before tuesday |
| 21:28.24 | ag` | my harddisk is away for RMA and I have a busy week |
| 21:29.36 | jaxdahl | this vBagnon is great |
| 21:29.53 | Guillotine | alright, I can't figure out this guys question. /me isn't very good at securestatetemplates yet. http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=13720 |
| 21:29.58 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6306-vBagnon.html |
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| 21:30.47 | Guillotine | hmm. are bag mods going to have to use the secure templates as well if they want items to be able to be called in combat? or is that not restricted? |
| 21:31.25 | jaxdahl | it might be something separate, idk |
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| 21:35.52 | MentalPower | Guillotine: yes, secure templates will be required |
| 21:36.35 | Guillotine | hope the author did that the first time. It'd suck to have to redo it all |
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| 21:43.24 | Saeris | The returns of UnitBuff are name, rank, icon, count, right? In that order? |
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| 21:50.56 | jaxdahl | if i register on wowinterface, can i 'favorite' addons so i can check them on tuesday and later for updates? |
| 21:52.21 | ckknight | yes. |
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| 22:07.13 | jaxdahl | what alternatives are there for CT_MailMod? |
| 22:07.22 | jaxdahl | so i can mass mail stuff to alts |
| 22:13.40 | Tain | BulkMail, if it's still around. |
| 22:14.21 | jaxdahl | this looks interesting: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6356-Distance.html |
| 22:14.41 | Cide | jaxdahl: CT_MailMod works fine I thought |
| 22:15.11 | jaxdahl | Cide, was the bug with the guild roster fixed? |
| 22:15.20 | Cide | I wasn't aware of one |
| 22:15.31 | Cide | but it's been working fine in our tests |
| 22:15.40 | Cide | the new version that we haven't released yet, of course |
| 22:15.42 | jaxdahl | offline people show |
| 22:15.51 | jaxdahl | even if 'offline' is unchecked |
| 22:15.58 | jaxdahl | in 1.12 |
| 22:16.04 | jaxdahl | very very very old bug |
| 22:16.13 | jaxdahl | anyway, i'm trying to minimize the # of addons i'm using |
| 22:16.38 | Cide | not sure how you'd go about to do that in this case |
| 22:16.40 | jaxdahl | or replace buggy ones |
| 22:16.57 | Cide | well, if you report the bugs I'm sure authors would be glad to fix them :) |
| 22:18.07 | Mery | how to I format a number to "xx.xx" again? |
| 22:19.27 | jaxdahl | Cide, i can confirm the bug exists |
| 22:19.35 | jaxdahl | only enabled Ct_mailmod |
| 22:19.47 | jaxdahl | go to mailbox, mass mail tab |
| 22:19.56 | jaxdahl | then open guild roster, offline people show up |
| 22:20.10 | jaxdahl | until you check and uncheck the offline button |
| 22:20.33 | jaxdahl | have to start typing a name too in mass mail |
| 22:21.17 | Shadowed | Mery: %f.2 I believe? |
| 22:21.41 | Shadowed | %.2f |
| 22:21.49 | Mery | thanks :) |
| 22:21.49 | Cide | jaxdahl: simple fix now that you reported it :) fixed for tuesday |
| 22:22.09 | Shadowed | Cide: when will we get stacking back :p |
| 22:22.24 | Cide | when I have time |
| 22:22.36 | Shadowed | why was it removed anyway, just buggy? |
| 22:22.49 | Cide | yes |
| 22:22.56 | Shadowed | i see |
| 22:22.59 | jaxdahl | Cide, cool |
| 22:23.14 | jaxdahl | i had been told before it was a known bug |
| 22:23.20 | jaxdahl | so i never reported it |
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| 22:27.49 | jaxdahl | is there a MobHealth3 for TBC? |
| 22:27.52 | jaxdahl | or 2.0 |
| 22:29.39 | Kirkburn|afk | What's wrong with the one on the Ace SVN? |
| 22:30.01 | Kirkburn|afk | i.e. I've not noticed any problems |
| 22:30.56 | Cairenn | besides the fact that a lot of people don't like using SVN, and even more don't even know about it? |
| 22:31.20 | Cairenn | and are looking for it on the standard sites |
| 22:32.42 | Kirkburn|afk | No I mean, it's a version from back in early october which I've not found problems with - it's not new |
| 22:32.43 | Mery | Cairenn do you know how hard it is to try to think like their minds? |
| 22:32.50 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:33.26 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowace.com/files/MobHealth/ and http://www.wowace.com/files/MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames/ |
| 22:34.37 | jaxdahl | well Kirkburn|afk, i'm going through my addons i have installed |
| 22:34.44 | jaxdahl | and looking in category 89 on wowinterface |
| 22:34.54 | jaxdahl | to see if there are updates there |
| 22:35.04 | jaxdahl | and if not, finding alternatives for future reference |
| 22:35.48 | Kirkburn|afk | 'Old' addons won't necessarily break |
| 22:36.01 | Kirkburn|afk | (I can prove it personally =) |
| 22:36.08 | Kirkburn|afk | But yeah, checking for updates - good idea |
| 22:36.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I spend half my time doing that :P |
| 22:37.58 | jaxdahl | i hope a new version of CT_RaidTracker eqdkp modded comes soon after patch |
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| 22:40.10 | jaxdahl | new version of CT_RA will come tuesday, right? |
| 22:40.31 | Cide | time will tell |
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| 22:41.46 | ckknight | how many people have asked you that, Cide? |
| 22:42.01 | Cide | roughly 7.5 * 10^6 it feels like |
| 22:42.12 | Kirov | technically, jax didn't ask Cide |
| 22:42.16 | Kirov | ;) |
| 22:42.19 | Cide | haha, true! :) |
| 22:42.21 | jaxdahl | right :) |
| 22:42.36 | jaxdahl | i might look into updating ct_raidtracker myself |
| 22:42.40 | Kirov | ckknight - a new version of CT_RA is going to come out on tuesday, right? |
| 22:42.43 | jaxdahl | http://forums.eqdkp.com/index.php?showtopic=8123&pid=43572 |
| 22:42.45 | Kirov | see |
| 22:51.41 | jaxdahl | do you guys know of an addon called Informant? |
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| 22:57.08 | DrDre | it rocks |
| 22:57.13 | DrDre | never play w/o it |
| 22:57.19 | jaxdahl | DrDre, know if it's updated for 2.0? |
| 22:57.26 | jaxdahl | i can't find an homepage for it |
| 22:57.29 | DrDre | uh i havnt kept up on 2.0 things lol |
| 22:57.34 | DrDre | it comes with auctioneer |
| 22:57.38 | DrDre | and auctioneer has been updated |
| 22:57.42 | DrDre | so yes prolly |
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| 22:58.10 | jaxdahl | alternative for Telo's Quickloot? |
| 22:58.15 | DrDre | FruityLoots |
| 22:58.28 | DrDre | and yes updated to 2.0 |
| 22:59.44 | jaxdahl | thanks |
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| 23:01.11 | jaxdahl | TipBuddy alternative? |
| 23:01.53 | jaxdahl | hmm, someone updated it: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6309-TipBuddy.html |
| 23:02.08 | Tem | I prefer TinyTip to TipBuddy |
| 23:02.35 | jaxdahl | i'm up for checking out new alternatives |
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| 23:02.38 | jaxdahl | esp if they're under dev |
| 23:02.46 | jaxdahl | i got through all my addons now |
| 23:03.34 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/addons.txt |
| 23:03.41 | Kirkburn|afk | TinyTip certainly is good |
| 23:05.40 | Guillotine | WoWI is down :( |
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| 23:05.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Cairenn, poke |
| 23:06.42 | jaxdahl | ' |
| 23:06.42 | jaxdahl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Back now :P |
| 23:06.59 | Guillotine | its up again :D |
| 23:07.07 | Kirkburn|afk | nvm Cairenn =) |
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| 23:13.46 | Cairenn | sorry, afk off and on, kiddo got a trojan, trying to clean up her machine |
| 23:14.47 | jaxdahl | porn site? |
| 23:14.52 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:15.29 | Cairenn | no, a link on msn that appeared to have come from a friend, wasn't paying attention, clicked it, realized just as she did that it was .exe, but by then it was already too late |
| 23:15.50 | Cairenn | and, of course, she didn't have her virus program up-to-date, so it didn't get blocked >< |
| 23:20.26 | Kirkburn|afk | eek |
| 23:20.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Reversible I hope |
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| 23:20.44 | Cairenn | working on it |
| 23:21.07 | ckknight_ | let's just stop using computers |
| 23:21.10 | ckknight_ | then we won't get viruses |
| 23:21.30 | Cairenn | pulled stupid norton off, installed avg, letting it chew its way through her computer now, then will unleash hijack this |
| 23:21.52 | Cairenn | between those two, should be able to get it sorted out |
| 23:22.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | get nod32 if you want to be absolutely sure |
| 23:22.40 | Cairenn | will see how it goes with those first |
| 23:22.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 23:22.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | overlapping virus software can be a bad thing sometimes |
| 23:23.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i love nod32 |
| 23:23.34 | Cairenn | avg is pretty damn good |
| 23:24.08 | [Cu]Werik | It's a cliche, but get a mac:) |
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| 23:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they werent so damn expensive |
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| 23:26.30 | ckknight_ | I'm contemplating getting a mac... |
| 23:26.47 | wuwu | nooooooooo |
| 23:27.31 | MentalPower | I prefer the enterprise version of McAfee myself |
| 23:27.44 | ckknight_ | wuwu, ? |
| 23:27.45 | MentalPower | (have it legally from my university) |
| 23:28.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've only had bad experiences with mcafee |
| 23:28.32 | jaxdahl | avast! ? |
| 23:28.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like symantec antivirus personally |
| 23:28.48 | ckknight_ | I like Antivir |
| 23:28.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'll never use an antivirus that looks like a media player |
| 23:28.58 | MentalPower | mcafee personal sucks |
| 23:29.25 | MentalPower | symantec, well I've used it, but I found it too intrusive |
| 23:29.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZL1RguQL4jQ |
| 23:29.40 | Tain | Symantec home is not the greatest. Symantec corporate is not bad. |
| 23:29.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man i love you ronnie james dio |
| 23:29.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | symantec home is norton :P |
| 23:30.03 | MentalPower | yeah, was about to say that |
| 23:30.06 | Tain | It's all Symantecs. |
| 23:30.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they call the corporate one symantec antivirus and the home norton :P |
| 23:30.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 23:30.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just got that joke |
| 23:30.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm slow |
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| 23:32.43 | Tain | Here's a relatively recent comparison of different AV products if anyone's interested. http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=82&mnu=82 |
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