| 00:00.24 | cladhaire | and then the args vary based on that |
| 00:00.24 | cladhaire | again, all laid out in securetemplates.lua |
| 00:00.24 | orban | I see, thank you very much :) |
| 00:00.32 | Qshadowp | do the addons labeled burning crusade work now? |
| 00:00.36 | cladhaire | yes |
| 00:00.39 | orban | yay it works! |
| 00:00.51 | Qshadowp | cool :D |
| 00:01.02 | jaxdahl2 | orban, so this is like PerfectDecurse ? |
| 00:01.05 | orban | http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9327/decursivetx1.jpg |
| 00:01.08 | orban | I have no idea |
| 00:01.16 | orban | but it works and looks pretty in my eyes |
| 00:01.17 | jaxdahl2 | orban, have you ever seen perfectraid? |
| 00:01.23 | orban | yes |
| 00:01.45 | orban | if there was a 2.0 version I'd have it, trust me |
| 00:01.51 | orban | *use |
| 00:01.55 | cladhaire | well quit yapping and i can get back to work on it |
| 00:01.56 | cladhaire | i'm lying |
| 00:01.58 | cladhaire | i haven't styarted |
| 00:02.00 | cladhaire | but that's my plan |
| 00:02.03 | orban | :D |
| 00:02.11 | jaxdahl2 | cladhaire, need ideas? |
| 00:02.15 | cladhaire | no |
| 00:02.17 | cladhaire | i have plenty |
| 00:02.19 | orban | well I can decurse with a click on fat red names now, I don't care about anything else |
| 00:02.20 | cladhaire | the issue is how its going to work |
| 00:02.26 | cladhaire | the two column thing is pretty much dead |
| 00:02.32 | cladhaire | its one coloum |
| 00:02.33 | cladhaire | column |
| 00:02.36 | orban | I put the names in tw colums now :D |
| 00:02.40 | cladhaire | or free-frames that can be dragged |
| 00:02.43 | cladhaire | you won't be able to automatically |
| 00:02.48 | cladhaire | you'll have to place the frames in that way |
| 00:02.51 | orban | because to fit all 4 on a row they have to be pretty mal and hard to click |
| 00:02.53 | orban | 40* |
| 00:03.05 | cladhaire | lrn2resolution |
| 00:03.17 | jaxdahl2 | cladhaire, why is 2 column dead? |
| 00:03.25 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: No way to do it automatically |
| 00:03.28 | orban | hey, my script is 80 lines long! I'm PROUD of me! :D |
| 00:03.39 | cladhaire | with the raid headers, you get to add groups, or classes or names |
| 00:03.43 | cladhaire | and non of that can change dynamically |
| 00:03.56 | Guillotine | cladhaire: someone in the cosmos channel is wondering, is there an ETA on Praid? |
| 00:03.56 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: To do 2 columns, i'd have to have groups 1234 in one column, and 5678 in the other |
| 00:03.57 | jaxdahl2 | dynamically in combat, that is? |
| 00:04.05 | cladhaire | Guillotine: A week, minimum |
| 00:04.15 | jaxdahl2 | can't do 1357, 2468? |
| 00:04.20 | cladhaire | you could |
| 00:04.22 | cladhaire | but that's the point |
| 00:04.27 | cladhaire | its restricted in some way |
| 00:04.36 | cladhaire | and at that point, i'd just give you guys the frames and let you place them |
| 00:04.45 | jaxdahl2 | i'd be fine with that |
| 00:04.51 | Tain | I don't like placing frames myself imo |
| 00:04.58 | cladhaire | Tain: You won't have much of a choice. |
| 00:05.04 | Arrowmaster | sounds fine to me, a lot of people seem to like 2x4 or 4x2 layouts for displaying groups of 5 |
| 00:05.05 | cladhaire | ALL raid frames are goign to have one of two restictions |
| 00:05.06 | cladhaire | this |
| 00:05.18 | Tain | I don't respond well to authority. |
| 00:05.18 | cladhaire | or can't add/drop raid members in combat (their frames would stay up) |
| 00:05.26 | cladhaire | Tain: Don't make me beat you with a stick |
| 00:05.31 | Saeris | Isn't /swapactionbar supposed to work in combat? |
| 00:05.35 | Tain | I don't like beatings imo |
| 00:05.43 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 00:05.43 | jaxdahl2 | cladhaire, i see where you're getting at now, i think |
| 00:05.44 | cladhaire | that sucks |
| 00:05.52 | cladhaire | jaxdahl2: its a tough problem =) |
| 00:05.55 | Arrowmaster | Saeris, i think its /changebar |
| 00:06.07 | jaxdahl2 | cladhaire, could blizz make it easier by adding other types of raid headers? |
| 00:06.16 | cladhaire | not really |
| 00:06.25 | orban | can you change the safe button size in combat? |
| 00:06.29 | chuckg | http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9523 --- how bad.. |
| 00:06.37 | cladhaire | chuckg: it hurts |
| 00:06.48 | chuckg | That's just brutal they overlooked something that large. |
| 00:06.49 | Saeris | Arrowmaster: Either one works while out of combat, but neither works in combat. |
| 00:06.55 | cladhaire | shit happens |
| 00:06.57 | cladhaire | it'll get patched |
| 00:06.58 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 00:07.04 | chuckg | By 3.0 they'll have fixed it. |
| 00:07.05 | jaxdahl2 | chuckg, i wonder if the next repair.exe will fix that |
| 00:08.31 | Qshadowp | is trinketmenu ready yet? |
| 00:09.41 | kergoth | trinketmenu works fine. |
| 00:09.57 | Qshadowp | coo :) |
| 00:10.02 | Qshadowp | l* |
| 00:11.15 | Industrial | the pressure on wowi is clearing up |
| 00:11.25 | Cairenn | certainly hope so |
| 00:11.38 | Saeris | Not for me yet. |
| 00:11.53 | Cairenn | and if it eases up for us, it should help the other sites too |
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| 00:12.06 | Industrial | yeah im getting all the pages i get now |
| 00:12.12 | Industrial | I request now* |
| 00:12.14 | Caeryn|Work | soo does anyone understand what Mairelon was talking about? I'm on section 2 and I don't understand how state works already |
| 00:12.14 | Industrial | after some time |
| 00:12.38 | Neuro | hahah, EXTREMELY low bandwidth version! |
| 00:12.56 | Caeryn|Work | how does SetBindingClick("]", rotatebtn:GetName()) increment the states? |
| 00:13.09 | Cairenn | Neuro: yup |
| 00:13.15 | Cairenn | but it's helping |
| 00:13.20 | Cairenn | well, sort of |
| 00:13.45 | Caeryn|Work | rotfl |
| 00:13.48 | Caeryn|Work | wowi++ |
| 00:14.02 | Caeryn|Work | btw Cairenn, CD_StickyChat is also updated for 2.0 |
| 00:14.05 | Caeryn|Work | not sure why its not on that list |
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| 00:14.30 | Cairenn | yeah, not sure why some aren't showing up, will check with Dolby-wowi when he gets back from dinner |
| 00:14.44 | Cairenn | he's actually taking a break from the site for a few minutes |
| 00:15.00 | Mike-N-Go | Morning guys. |
| 00:15.16 | Cairenn | Mike-N-Go: you just left ... |
| 00:15.19 | Caeryn|Work | is that allowed Cairenn? |
| 00:15.31 | Cairenn | Caeryn|Work: yup |
| 00:16.46 | Cairenn | Caeryn|Work: just like all the admins on *all* the sites, he's putting in way too many hours right now struggling to keep up with the demand |
| 00:17.09 | Caeryn|Work | i'm pretty sure breaks are not allowed |
| 00:17.18 | Caeryn|Work | just kidding |
| 00:17.22 | Caeryn|Work | beer for everyone! |
| 00:17.27 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 00:17.30 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.31 | ckknight | Cairenn, give Dolby a hug. |
| 00:17.33 | Industrial | / \ |
| 00:17.36 | TuX_BuBling | just a question |
| 00:17.37 | zoktar | anyone have an example for a SCT cooldown? |
| 00:17.53 | TuX_BuBling | what's the average memory usage? |
| 00:17.58 | Industrial | zoktar: thats not really useful as you cant see at a glance what CD is active and not |
| 00:18.16 | Industrial | zoktar: you will have to count yourself, it will get messy |
| 00:18.17 | bnovc | any rogues unable to use poisons or open boxes cause of errors? i think mine are from Titan |
| 00:18.33 | zoktar | well, if u activate something, it has started, just post the msg when the x time is up ? |
| 00:18.40 | zoktar | i mean it says in combat log right |
| 00:18.43 | Industrial | zoktar: but what if you dont look? |
| 00:18.58 | Industrial | you might miss it |
| 00:18.59 | Eggi | is there a problem with bw and thaddius arrows? could not see any arrows today :( |
| 00:18.59 | zoktar | what u mean if u dont look |
| 00:19.04 | zoktar | o, well |
| 00:19.15 | Industrial | well then you dont know what cd's are on and not |
| 00:19.18 | zoktar | u could see if its CD in the actionbar |
| 00:19.27 | Industrial | zoktar: then get OmniCC instead |
| 00:19.29 | Industrial | :-) |
| 00:19.31 | zoktar | but id like it to say in MSGs |
| 00:19.34 | zoktar | aswell |
| 00:19.37 | Industrial | _._ |
| 00:19.43 | zoktar | so i dont have to stare at the actionbars all the time |
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| 00:19.49 | zoktar | for short cds |
| 00:19.52 | bnovc | anyone have a titan vrsion higher than 3.0.0.20000? i cant get to any mod sites to get one that works |
| 00:19.55 | Kirkburn | Argh, moo, just 6.9% until 70 |
| 00:20.13 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: well then, less chatting more killing! :P |
| 00:20.16 | zoktar | have it come up in SCT messages like "Bloodrage is Ready" for example |
| 00:20.58 | Kirkburn | Bleeter, I just ran out of my last doable quest! |
| 00:20.59 | Cairenn | bnovc: should be able to hit wowi |
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| 00:21.25 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: time to log, gain some rested, before farming? |
| 00:21.30 | zoktar | Industrial, atm im using errormonster to post in sct messages aswell, and u can have enemy casts there aswell, so basicly im trying a all centerd around the msgs |
| 00:21.49 | zoktar | so ill know whats going on when reading all the sct messages |
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| 00:22.39 | zoktar | Industrial i use omnicc aswell ;P |
| 00:22.46 | Kirkburn | Blooming disconnect |
| 00:22.56 | Kirkburn | Did this go through? "I think I've found one last quest which combines some farming with a quest :O" |
| 00:23.11 | Bleeter | nah, missed that |
| 00:23.21 | Bleeter | hopefully it'll give 750k XP for you ;) |
| 00:23.21 | orban | sorry one last question....type1/spell and spell1/Remove Lesser Curse casts RLCurse on a leftclick, how do I add right click -> target on top of that? |
| 00:23.39 | Bleeter | just to be sure ;) |
| 00:23.50 | bnovc | Cairenn: mostly page time outs |
| 00:24.05 | Caeryn|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.06 | Caeryn|Work | maybe |
| 00:24.19 | orban | f:SetAttribute("type2", "target"); |
| 00:24.22 | orban | button2? |
| 00:24.25 | Bleeter | Cairenn: fwiw, timeouts here too, but I understand the struggle and haven't hassled you about it ;) |
| 00:24.37 | Caeryn|Work | sorry is this a script question or a mod question> |
| 00:24.44 | orban | sorry, mod |
| 00:24.52 | Bleeter | Cairenn: heh, it must've seen my words, slowly coming through ;) |
| 00:24.55 | Cairenn | *sigh* |
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| 00:25.19 | Cairenn | you guys using the extreme low or the main site still? |
| 00:25.43 | bnovc | i just went to wowinterface.com |
| 00:26.34 | Cairenn | WoWInterface.com |
| 00:26.34 | Cairenn | 2.0 Addons List - Extremely low bandwidth version |
| 00:26.38 | orban | SecureTemplates.lua |
| 00:26.45 | orban | says self:SetAttribute("type1", "target"); |
| 00:26.53 | bnovc | Cairenn: oh, that's what i'm on |
| 00:26.54 | orban | but I have type1 to cast a spell, which works |
| 00:26.55 | Cairenn | should be what you are seeing, unless you actively click the "visit the main site" button |
| 00:27.05 | bnovc | Cairenn: no, i didnt click main site |
| 00:27.15 | Cairenn | blah |
| 00:27.24 | bnovc | that page itself loads but the download urls dont |
| 00:27.29 | bnovc | http://fs2.wowinterface.com/download.php?id=5580 for example |
| 00:28.25 | bnovc | about 50% of the time it connects but recieves no data, other 50% it doesnt connect |
| 00:28.55 | Bleeter | Cairenn: ah, it's my privoxy and other guff getting a bit upset at the number of redirects (my own tweak), my bad |
| 00:29.02 | Bleeter | Cairenn: hugs and apols to you |
| 00:29.26 | Cairenn | naw, no apologies necessary |
| 00:30.28 | orban | Caeryn|Work: Any idea? tried action2, button2, type2... :< |
| 00:30.44 | Drundia | erm can u tell me what exactly do u want to achieve? |
| 00:30.59 | orban | me? |
| 00:31.05 | Drundia | yes u |
| 00:31.26 | orban | I have the spell Remove Lesser Curse on a secure button on left click |
| 00:31.32 | orban | and now I want target on right click |
| 00:32.02 | orban | f:SetAttribute("action2", "target"); |
| 00:32.17 | orban | button2, action2, type2, doesn't work :( |
| 00:32.55 | cladhaire | you need type2 == action |
| 00:33.01 | bnovc | are stunwatch and ccwatch basically the same thing |
| 00:33.01 | cladhaire | action2 == target |
| 00:33.03 | orban | aha |
| 00:33.21 | orban | why is tehre self:SetAttribute("type1", "target"); |
| 00:33.30 | Drundia | so do i get it right, u cast RLC with left click and then want to right click that thing to target it on self or? |
| 00:33.34 | orban | in SecureTemplates.lua? |
| 00:33.43 | orban | no, just target the unit |
| 00:34.13 | Drundia | type2='target', unit2='unitid' |
| 00:35.01 | orban | f:SetAttribute("type2", "target"); |
| 00:35.02 | orban | f:SetAttribute("unit2", "raid"..i); |
| 00:35.05 | orban | not working >.> |
| 00:35.55 | Drundia | and what is ur i? |
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| 00:36.26 | orban | between 1 and 40, it works for the type1=spell |
| 00:37.11 | Drundia | strange... |
| 00:37.45 | orban | targeting works on both right and leftclick if I don't set any attributes at all |
| 00:38.10 | Drundia | what kind of button u use? |
| 00:38.32 | orban | http://wowi.pastey.net/3221 |
| 00:39.03 | orban | hat's the latest combination I tried doesn't work either ;) |
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| 00:39.59 | Inside | Allrightie, since the real lua channel is so far less active than here, I'll ask here! After creating a new environment and setting a cunk of code to that environment, I want to call the chunk of code in its new environment. http://rafb.net/paste/results/XiNbnc37.html Basically, what goes on line 12 =P |
| 00:40.22 | Drundia | type='target' not type='action'; action='target' |
| 00:40.30 | ckknight | ah, Inside, for C code |
| 00:41.16 | orban | so two times target? |
| 00:41.42 | Drundia | why two times? |
| 00:41.45 | ckknight | Inside, I'm still confused. |
| 00:41.51 | ckknight | Inside, about what you want to accomplish. |
| 00:42.20 | Drundia | remove lines 4-6 and add somewhere f:SetAttribute("type2", "target"); |
| 00:42.46 | bnovc | is there a new version of ace2 that works? |
| 00:42.55 | orban | I had that Drundia but it doesn't work |
| 00:43.44 | [Cu]Werik | nn |
| 00:44.12 | Cairenn | night WrK`ZZz |
| 00:44.31 | WrK`ZZz | I want this madness to be over before I wake up! |
| 00:44.33 | WrK`ZZz | :p |
| 00:44.35 | WrK`ZZz | Nn Cairenn |
| 00:44.42 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:44.43 | ckknight | bnovc, yes |
| 00:45.26 | Drundia | if unit doesnt exist it wont do anything no matter what you tell it |
| 00:45.40 | bnovc | ckknight: that wont stop me from lock picking with an error? |
| 00:45.50 | orban | it does, it says "Out of Range" and "Nothing to decurse" if I left click |
| 00:46.00 | ckknight | that's not Ace2's fault, bnovc, WoW's not good at pinpointing the issue. |
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| 00:46.15 | bnovc | ckknight: oh yea? huh |
| 00:46.40 | bnovc | do i need to remove one mod at a time to find out which it is |
| 00:47.58 | ckknight | essentially |
| 00:48.19 | ckknight | or use BugSack and properly pinpoint the issue |
| 00:49.28 | Inside | H=_= |
| 00:50.38 | Qshadowp | lol woa |
| 00:50.43 | Qshadowp | i just got the weirdest addon bug |
| 00:50.54 | Qshadowp | my Minimap has kinda turned into a squashed globe |
| 00:50.59 | Drundia | no, u wont beat orban's case |
| 00:50.59 | Qshadowp | and when i run around it still works |
| 00:51.28 | orban | ha ha ha |
| 00:51.38 | Qshadowp | lol what happened to orban? |
| 00:51.46 | orban | do I maybe have to enable right clicks on the button? |
| 00:52.03 | Drundia | that's indeed a possibility |
| 00:52.18 | Kaso | the CT_BuffMod Expiry sound almost gave me a heart attack there |
| 00:52.18 | orban | how do I go about that :D |
| 00:53.01 | Drundia | f:RegisterForClicks('LeftButtonUp', 'RightButtonUp') (only LeftButtonUp is default state afaik) |
| 00:54.13 | Cide | Kaso: glad you like it! |
| 00:54.23 | Drundia | and then u can remove lines 4-6 and add somewhere f:SetAttribute("type2", "target"); |
| 00:54.26 | Drundia | i think |
| 00:54.28 | Qshadowp | http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8449/wow2006120800494614sd1.jpg pew pew, globe shaped minimap. |
| 00:54.37 | Qshadowp | (squashed globe) |
| 00:55.39 | orban | OOH lUA errro on right click!!! |
| 00:55.39 | ckknight | odd, Qshadowp |
| 00:55.54 | Drundia | that's a good sign.... |
| 00:55.59 | Drundia | what kind of error? |
| 00:56.00 | orban | very |
| 00:56.10 | orban | f:SetAttribute("type2", "target"); |
| 00:56.10 | orban | f:SetAttribute("unit2", "raid"..i); |
| 00:56.13 | orban | those two work |
| 00:56.14 | orban | thank GOD |
| 00:56.15 | Qshadowp | lol there was no error |
| 00:56.24 | Qshadowp | i just opened bongos and it did it :D |
| 00:56.35 | orban | thank you very much Drundia |
| 00:56.39 | Qshadowp | i think its because i had moveanything, and bongos, both trying to tell the minimap where to go at the same time |
| 00:56.50 | Drundia | f:SetAttribute("unit", "raid"..i); that u have there sets unit for all kinds of clicks and all possible and impossible modifier states |
| 00:57.24 | Qshadowp | intresting that you can make the minimap look like a globe though, someone should do that sometime |
| 00:57.27 | Qshadowp | it'd look pretty cool :) |
| 00:58.06 | orban | you can't assign a function to an event like with ace2 right? |
| 01:00.35 | Tuller | awesome, I broke paging |
| 01:00.53 | kergoth | ... grats? |
| 01:01.16 | Kaso | Man i hope they fix this dupe thing before it reaches EU |
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| 01:01.28 | Drundia | oooh what dupe thing? |
| 01:01.29 | malreth | RAWRZERZ!!! |
| 01:01.38 | malreth | who da dupe? |
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| 01:01.49 | malreth | you callin me a dupe, Drundia? |
| 01:02.05 | Cairenn | malreth: down boy |
| 01:02.10 | Mike-N-Go | Bah, computer problems. |
| 01:02.15 | Kaso | Some guys have figured out how to dupe gold, giving it away by the million on some servers |
| 01:02.17 | Drundia | u came too late to know what dupe we are talking about |
| 01:02.30 | Kaso | no-doubt there will be rollbacks, and those are just a pain in the arse |
| 01:02.30 | malreth | :( |
| 01:02.40 | malreth | i just want to be special... *sob* |
| 01:02.59 | Drundia | tell me please how to convert my several k glods into several million |
| 01:03.05 | Qshadowp | omg lol |
| 01:03.09 | Drundia | i really need to know |
| 01:03.15 | malreth | Kaso: aw man... they're idiots. they should have laundered it across several accounts and alts |
| 01:03.16 | Drundia | i want to sponsor my entire server |
| 01:03.18 | Qshadowp | you know earlier i said people where giving out stacks of 55,000 gold on my server? |
| 01:03.20 | xsarpedon | Does it involve murloc's? |
| 01:03.22 | Qshadowp | im just hearing from my friend |
| 01:03.25 | Qshadowp | blizzard suspended the lot of them |
| 01:03.31 | Qshadowp | there must be a gold dupe |
| 01:04.03 | Drundia | i think no murlocs there. but it could involve some chickens |
| 01:04.04 | malreth | have you ever seen someone get yanked from the game? |
| 01:04.11 | Qshadowp | no |
| 01:04.15 | Tain | Murlocs all deserve to be banned. |
| 01:04.15 | Qshadowp | but i know the guy whos been banned |
| 01:04.21 | Qshadowp | i might be able to get in contact with him |
| 01:04.38 | malreth | once, there was this gnome in IF who was constantly yelling all sorts of mysogynic crap |
| 01:04.44 | malreth | this is on an RP server, btw |
| 01:04.52 | malreth | so, i engage him in dialogue |
| 01:05.04 | Thardal | holy jebus worldofwar works |
| 01:05.05 | malreth | so i tell him dwarf to gnome that what he's doing is wrong |
| 01:05.21 | malreth | and all that... i was on my priest at the time so i went all holy-thumper on him |
| 01:05.32 | malreth | full on dwarf accent, too |
| 01:05.40 | malreth | anyways... he gets all huffy |
| 01:05.43 | malreth | and keeps on screaming |
| 01:05.49 | malreth | and best part... |
| 01:06.04 | malreth | he has his friends there, playing with him as human females in skimpies |
| 01:06.14 | malreth | and now and then they'd say something and he'd turn and slap them |
| 01:06.29 | malreth | so this goes on for several minutes |
| 01:06.37 | malreth | and as he's in the middle of another of his rants |
| 01:06.45 | malreth | he just disappears from right in front of me |
| 01:06.55 | malreth | just... *poof* |
| 01:07.00 | Qshadowp | LOL |
| 01:07.12 | malreth | the human females kinda stand there for a bit |
| 01:07.27 | malreth | then one says, "i guess he's gone" |
| 01:07.33 | malreth | and they walk away |
| 01:07.45 | Qshadowp | lolz |
| 01:08.08 | malreth | i couldn't stop laughing until i actually stopped |
| 01:08.20 | malreth | anyways, that's my story |
| 01:08.49 | Qshadowp | :) |
| 01:09.09 | Cairenn | *golf clap* |
| 01:10.14 | malreth | i see that wowi is doing a bit better today. |
| 01:10.52 | Qshadowp | lol "Extremely Low Bandwidth Version" |
| 01:10.56 | Qshadowp | <3 |
| 01:11.11 | malreth | props to the boys and girls and server hamsters that make the machines go |
| 01:11.13 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Natasha (i=Myzt@144.139.65.5) |
| 01:11.30 | SP|Sorren` | server hamsters~ |
| 01:11.48 | Kaelten | hamsters go! |
| 01:12.08 | Kirkburn | So ... close ... yet ... so ... far ... 2.3% to go :P |
| 01:12.10 | Caeryn|Work | the title of wowi should be "Now with Fresh Hamsters" |
| 01:12.25 | malreth | believe me, you don't want unfresh ones... |
| 01:12.54 | orban | thanks for all the help, <3, bye |
| 01:13.53 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: 2.3% of what? |
| 01:13.59 | Kirkburn | 69-80 |
| 01:14.02 | Kirkburn | -70 :/ |
| 01:14.07 | Josh_Borke | you can do it! |
| 01:14.11 | Josh_Borke | anyway, bb all |
| 01:14.15 | Kirkburn | See ya |
| 01:14.37 | malreth | only people in stargate command can get to level 80 |
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| 01:16.44 | SP|Sorren` | level 70 is overrated |
| 01:16.54 | Industrial | lol. |
| 01:17.00 | Mike-N-Go | SP|Sorren`: Please explain your view. |
| 01:17.05 | SP|Sorren` | especially since poeople are back to pvping on live ;P |
| 01:17.18 | Nom- | Of course we're all PvPing on live |
| 01:17.29 | SP|Sorren` | i know |
| 01:17.31 | Nom- | Who wouldn't want a HWL Spellblade? |
| 01:17.59 | SP|Sorren` | i should be on live pvping too |
| 01:18.24 | SP|Sorren` | but i dislike only being level 60 ;p |
| 01:18.38 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know of TeamSpeak server for Macintosh? |
| 01:19.06 | Gryphen | Dont believe I have ever heard of one |
| 01:19.55 | Caeryn|Work | there's no TS for Mac or FreeBSD based OS |
| 01:20.06 | Caeryn|Work | there's Vent for FreeBSD though |
| 01:20.17 | Qshadowp | vent wins teamspeak :P |
| 01:20.20 | Gryphen | there is a TS client for Mac |
| 01:20.24 | Gryphen | not server |
| 01:20.28 | Caeryn|Work | I meant server |
| 01:20.34 | Gryphen | TS > Vent |
| 01:20.35 | Caeryn|Work | orrrrrbiovvvrrry |
| 01:20.39 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Imrcly (n=tim@74.128.180.191) |
| 01:20.50 | Qshadowp | Gryphen lol ts doesn't have half the functions of vent |
| 01:20.55 | SP|Sorren` | omg burger king made a game with the king |
| 01:20.59 | Qshadowp | i mean the TTS chat thing is great for people without a mic :P |
| 01:21.14 | Tain | There's 3 games, SP|Sorren` |
| 01:21.21 | SP|Sorren` | o rly? |
| 01:21.42 | malreth | my favorite thread is alive again... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32275880&postId=548408956&sid=1#266 |
| 01:21.47 | Gryphen | 12 config popups to get setup to join a Vent server, yay |
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| 01:23.09 | Qshadowp | lol i love the guys on that post |
| 01:23.29 | jaxdahl | gryphen, ya that sucks |
| 01:23.31 | Qshadowp | "o no i have to think about where to press now" "Oh Noes!!!! i hurt people." |
| 01:23.33 | Qshadowp | xD |
| 01:23.34 | Nom- | You so don't need functions |
| 01:23.34 | malreth | i do too, Qshadowp |
| 01:23.38 | Nom- | That's why TS > Vent |
| 01:23.41 | Nom- | Because TS is simple |
| 01:23.48 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:23.57 | Nom- | Some might call it 'idiot proof', but that assumes a high level of standard of your idiots. |
| 01:24.11 | Qshadowp | http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1466/wow2006120801195018wr3.jpg theres my UI now after the pewpew lazors of the new 2.0 patch killed it :) |
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| 01:24.50 | Nom- | lol got enough buttons, Qshadowp ? |
| 01:25.04 | Qshadowp | Nom- i havn't even set them all up yet |
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| 01:25.17 | Qshadowp | those are only my spell buttons, i have a bank of macro buttons that i usually place on my second screen too |
| 01:25.20 | Nom- | I just use 3 rows lol |
| 01:25.35 | Qshadowp | hehe |
| 01:25.35 | malreth | i'm down to 2 rows on my mage |
| 01:25.43 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/WoWScrnShot_112506_210336.jpg |
| 01:25.44 | malreth | oh SNAP! |
| 01:25.50 | Qshadowp | well in my defense, the row to the far right is actually Trinketmenu |
| 01:25.53 | malreth | that's too many... too many buttons, Q! |
| 01:25.56 | Kirkburn | <-- 1.6% left |
| 01:25.58 | Qshadowp | lol :) |
| 01:26.12 | SP|Sorren` | :O wall of buttons |
| 01:26.19 | SP|Sorren` | Kirkburn: gogo~ |
| 01:26.22 | malreth | it's so many that Firefox just said, "DAYUM!!" |
| 01:26.29 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:26.37 | Kirkburn | <-- 0.4% |
| 01:26.45 | malreth | HAHA! I like that blink button! |
| 01:26.45 | Qshadowp | http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8449/wow2006120800494614sd1.jpg <-- the best minimap bug in wow ever. |
| 01:26.47 | SP|Sorren` | eh you're doing that dual monitor thing, why n ot put your buttons on the other monitor |
| 01:26.49 | Qshadowp | got that while i was setting it up :D |
| 01:26.54 | Qshadowp | thanks malreth :> |
| 01:27.24 | Qshadowp | i wub my blink button, i had to edit the lua file of bongos just to make it that size. |
| 01:27.25 | malreth | looks like you didn't clearallpoints before moving the minimap |
| 01:27.26 | Qshadowp | sounds about right :) |
| 01:27.40 | Qshadowp | i had moveanything locking the minimap position, then i tried to move it with bongos. |
| 01:29.01 | myrridin | anybody actually doing work on cryolysis? |
| 01:30.47 | Qshadowp | is there anything like EzCastingBar around for new patch? |
| 01:31.03 | Nom- | like the one built in to 2.0 ? |
| 01:31.52 | Qshadowp | the wow default casting bar looks ugly. |
| 01:31.52 | Darklin | Qshadowp: http://fs2.wowinterface.com/download.php?id=5546? |
| 01:31.56 | Nom- | IceHUD has a nice HUD casting bar |
| 01:31.56 | Nom- | friendly and enemy |
| 01:32.12 | Kirkburn | Ding=) |
| 01:32.20 | SP|Sorren` | grats :D |
| 01:32.28 | Qshadowp | gz Kirkburn :) |
| 01:32.55 | Kirkburn | Thanks :P |
| 01:32.57 | cladhaire | I uploaded three videos of how to use Clique.. if anyone was interested. |
| 01:33.01 | Caeryn|Work | bad Nom |
| 01:33.02 | cladhaire | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=52936303&postId=527017116&sid=1#0 |
| 01:33.07 | Caeryn|Work | bad bad Nom |
| 01:33.10 | Caeryn|Work | show me this IceHUD |
| 01:33.23 | Darklin | Grats, Cladhaire. =) |
| 01:33.28 | Nom- | www.wowace.com/files |
| 01:33.41 | Nom- | It's not bad |
| 01:33.53 | wereHamster | can I bind a key to my own SecureStateHeader through Bindings.xml? |
| 01:34.02 | Nom- | a little more difficult than MetaHUD, but it's more stable than any other HUD i've found |
| 01:34.03 | Qshadowp | Invalid query: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '?' at line 1 |
| 01:34.05 | Caeryn|Work | any screenshots? |
| 01:34.09 | Nom- | That's not to say it's without bugs |
| 01:34.11 | Caeryn|Work | harro have you tried DHUD? |
| 01:34.15 | Qshadowp | http://fs2.wowinterface.com/download.php?id=5546? |
| 01:34.31 | Caeryn|Work | cladhaire: link! |
| 01:34.38 | Nom- | I think DHUD = MetaHUD |
| 01:34.43 | Caeryn|Work | no |
| 01:34.45 | Nom- | Very similar, but it was buggy in 2.0 |
| 01:34.49 | Darklin | Qshadow: That's the link off the www.wowinterface.com page |
| 01:34.52 | Caeryn|Work | MetaHud = rippy people |
| 01:34.55 | Caeryn|Work | DHUD = good |
| 01:35.01 | Darklin | They're in ULB mode at the moment. |
| 01:35.01 | Qshadowp | yea i don't want a HUD Casting bar :) |
| 01:35.05 | Qshadowp | DHUD is nice, i use DHUD :) |
| 01:35.09 | Caeryn|Work | THANK YOU |
| 01:35.24 | Nom- | Is it very similar to MetaHUD? |
| 01:35.29 | Nom- | IN appearance |
| 01:35.38 | Qshadowp | what did i do right Caeryn? :) |
| 01:35.42 | Caeryn|Work | I updated Drathal's beta codes, he did some massive rewrites for 0.9b6 that is very very nice |
| 01:35.53 | Caeryn|Work | I put it in, it will be up in the next version of DHUD |
| 01:36.01 | Caeryn|Work | Nom-: no its superior in every possible way |
| 01:36.01 | Qshadowp | yea i use it |
| 01:36.12 | Caeryn|Work | <-- maintainer of DHUD |
| 01:36.20 | Qshadowp | theres one thing i cried about though |
| 01:36.21 | Caeryn|Work | now taking feature requests |
| 01:36.26 | Qshadowp | with MetaHUD, they fixed it |
| 01:36.35 | sysrage | anybody happen to have a fix for ctraid doin it's annoying clicky lag crap? |
| 01:36.38 | Qshadowp | with the offsets you need to have a text box to put a number in! |
| 01:36.45 | Qshadowp | because with duel screen -300 = +300 |
| 01:36.56 | Qshadowp | -600 = 0 |
| 01:37.03 | Caeryn|Work | ah |
| 01:37.05 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:37.10 | Caeryn|Work | in the new version of DHUD it uses text box |
| 01:37.13 | Caeryn|Work | instead of a sliding bar |
| 01:37.20 | Qshadowp | every time i go anywhere near the offsets in dhud |
| 01:37.28 | Qshadowp | i have to relog and edit the lua again to get it in the right place |
| 01:37.28 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 01:37.33 | Caeryn|Work | :( |
| 01:37.41 | Caeryn|Work | text box in the next version! |
| 01:37.46 | Qshadowp | yay! :D |
| 01:37.55 | Caeryn|Work | what class are you btw? |
| 01:37.56 | cladhaire | Darklin: I didn't need grats |
| 01:38.01 | cladhaire | Caeryn: I did link for you |
| 01:38.02 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:38.03 | Qshadowp | Caeryn mage |
| 01:38.03 | cladhaire | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=52936303&postId=527017116&sid=1#0 |
| 01:38.19 | Darklin | cladhaire: No one said you did. I was just giving you grats anyway. =P |
| 01:38.23 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:38.51 | Darklin | Tuller: Just wanted to let you know I came up with an ugly hack for Bongos that fixed my issue. |
| 01:39.19 | Caeryn|Work | how did you take that picture btw Clad |
| 01:39.22 | Tuller | Darklin: hurray :) |
| 01:39.23 | Tain | grat cladhaire! |
| 01:39.27 | cladhaire | which picture? |
| 01:39.30 | cladhaire | Tain: Fuck my momma! |
| 01:39.33 | Darklin | Not so much fixed as 'sidestepped' but it works for now. |
| 01:39.34 | Nom- | got a screeny with DHUD? |
| 01:39.37 | Tain | Done and done. |
| 01:39.45 | Kirkburn | I'm flyyyiing! |
| 01:39.46 | Caeryn|Work | cladhaire: that crap is tiny! |
| 01:39.56 | cladhaire | dude.. its google video |
| 01:40.00 | Caeryn|Work | cladhaire: :( |
| 01:40.02 | cladhaire | i had a 250 meg one, but even that got destroyed. |
| 01:40.09 | Qshadowp | Nom- http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1466/wow2006120801195018wr3.jpg theres a screenshot of me useing DHUD |
| 01:40.13 | Caeryn|Work | metacafe? youtube? |
| 01:40.22 | Nom- | zomg a new X-Perl UnitFrames! |
| 01:40.28 | ripper_ | what is the 5.1 format for iterating an associative table, the following is generating an error: for key,value in BidManiac_bidMatrix do |
| 01:40.29 | Nom- | beta10 .. anyone tried it? |
| 01:40.51 | Qshadowp | Nom- im useing Perl Classic UnitFrames in that screenshot. |
| 01:40.52 | Nom- | ah yeah , that's pretty much the same as MetaHUD in appearance |
| 01:40.59 | Tain | for key, value in pairs(imo) |
| 01:41.08 | Qshadowp | Nom- yup :P |
| 01:41.20 | ripper_ | so: for key,value in pairs(tablename) ? |
| 01:41.24 | Tuller | hrm, so does In <stance>, switch <bars> by <amount> pages sound less confusing? |
| 01:41.26 | Caeryn|Work | http://www.code-poets.org/WoWScrnShot_120106_222048.jpg <- me using DHUD |
| 01:41.40 | jaxdahl | hmm, no autopromotion in oRA2.. anyone know of an addon that does this? |
| 01:41.44 | Nom- | Perl UF != X-Perl UF :) |
| 01:41.56 | Caeryn|Work | Qshadowp: I am trying to get rid of character frames, I think with the new DHUD there should be no need for it |
| 01:42.05 | Qshadowp | dwarf powa :P |
| 01:42.34 | Caeryn|Work | ja! |
| 01:42.53 | Caeryn|Work | what would you like to see added Qshadowp? |
| 01:42.59 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 01:43.07 | Qshadowp | oh god its moved again |
| 01:43.10 | SP|Sorren` | hey |
| 01:43.14 | SP|Sorren` | iceHUD |
| 01:43.16 | SP|Sorren` | is pretty cool. |
| 01:43.25 | Qshadowp | i want the TEXT BOXES! |
| 01:43.38 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:43.49 | Nom- | I prefer MetaHUD/DHUD (If it works in 2.0) |
| 01:43.59 | Qshadowp | Caeryn dhud is nice, thats why i use it |
| 01:44.05 | Nom- | The graphics in IceHUD are just a little bit too pretty |
| 01:44.07 | Qshadowp | the only reason i have unitframes now is because im used to them being there |
| 01:44.10 | Caeryn|Work | lol its in! 1.2.20000 is mostly feature complete and tested, but i am waiting for the whole goldrush to die down -- until today i couldnt' even upload my mods :) |
| 01:44.12 | Qshadowp | and it feels strange if they are gone :( |
| 01:44.17 | Nom- | If it's just a little bit too pretty I don't take notice of it |
| 01:44.23 | Qshadowp | :) |
| 01:44.24 | Caeryn|Work | Nom-: DHUD works in 2.0 |
| 01:44.29 | Nom- | Good stuff |
| 01:44.57 | Caeryn|Work | Qshadowp: I found that if i left unitframes on, i would always look at it. also if i had blizzard casting bar on, i would also always look at it. |
| 01:45.08 | Caeryn|Work | so i forced myself to turn them off and ran around for 2 days, no looking back baby! |
| 01:45.26 | Qshadowp | :P |
| 01:45.26 | Nom- | heh |
| 01:45.34 | Nom- | I used them to see details on my target |
| 01:45.42 | Caeryn|Work | what details? |
| 01:45.43 | Nom- | And used the HUD for monitoring everything else |
| 01:45.46 | Caeryn|Work | like health and mana? |
| 01:45.48 | Nom- | Like level / class / name |
| 01:45.52 | Caeryn|Work | it is in the HUD |
| 01:45.57 | Nom- | HP and Mana I use the HUD |
| 01:46.04 | Nom- | Yeah, but I just liked looking at X-Perl UF :D |
| 01:46.07 | Qshadowp | Caeryn i might be able to live without the unit frames |
| 01:46.13 | Qshadowp | but i love the way i can have 2 casting bars with dhud |
| 01:46.20 | Qshadowp | dhud being a countdown, casting bar being a countup |
| 01:46.36 | Caeryn|Work | Qshadowp: in 1.2.20000 it can be configured as a countdown or a countup |
| 01:47.02 | Qshadowp | Caeryn yea but i like to have both |
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| 01:47.06 | Qshadowp | just as a really weird personal preferance. |
| 01:47.26 | Caeryn|Work | c'est la vie :) I will make everything optional |
| 01:47.44 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:47.56 | Qshadowp | well if you want to make my health bar be a count up and my mana bar be a count down just for me |
| 01:47.58 | Qshadowp | then why not o.O |
| 01:48.41 | Tuller | hrm, so were there any other issues with bongos other than stances acting funny, and not being able to use hotkeys on hidden buttons that people are aware of? |
| 01:48.55 | Caeryn|Work | Qshadowp: I meant casting time |
| 01:48.59 | Caeryn|Work | wtf is this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=55005841&sid=1 |
| 01:49.02 | Caeryn|Work | that fix makes no sense |
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| 01:49.20 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:49.46 | cladhaire | is this better or worse than the google video version. |
| 01:49.48 | cladhaire | ?? |
| 01:49.50 | cladhaire | http://gammatester.com/movies/CliqueIntro.html |
| 01:49.58 | cladhaire | ima see if i can make it really high quality |
| 01:50.08 | Tain | Your mom's high quality. |
| 01:50.13 | Qshadowp | Darklin what was the name of the mod |
| 01:50.23 | Qshadowp | i couldn't get that page to load, so im gonna try and get it from The_List |
| 01:50.29 | Darklin | Tuller: Actually, hotkeys on hidden buttons do work. The issue with that was more that the after a relog/reloadui where a bar had been keybound, then hidden, unless the bar was made visible, the keybindings weren't active. |
| 01:50.44 | Caeryn|Work | anything is better than google video, all I saw was a treant |
| 01:50.52 | Caeryn|Work | and magical config frames popping up |
| 01:50.57 | Tuller | Darklin: hotkeys on hidden buttons don't work because the buttons weren't actually created :) |
| 01:51.01 | Darklin | eCastingBar for WoW 2.0 by Neuro Medivh. |
| 01:51.09 | Darklin | Tuller: Aye, I figured that out earlier. Hehe. |
| 01:51.14 | kkress | cladhaire: I'm trying to snag a copy of PerfectRaid (heard good things), but the files on wowinterface are all reporting "not authorized" is that intended? |
| 01:51.23 | Qshadowp | thanks Darklin |
| 01:51.25 | cladhaire | well, perfectraid isn't converted. |
| 01:51.28 | cladhaire | so it own't work in 2.0 |
| 01:51.31 | kkress | ahh |
| 01:51.43 | Darklin | Once the buttons were actually 'created' then the keybindings came right up properly. |
| 01:51.59 | kkress | cladhaire: thanks for the info |
| 01:52.44 | Qshadowp | Caeryn in the current version of dhud can you make it count up instead of down? |
| 01:52.44 | cladhaire | np |
| 01:53.03 | Darklin | Warcraft is having issues making its caching folder WDB |
| 01:53.49 | Qshadowp | keep on getting "The connection was reset" from wowinterface :( |
| 01:53.51 | Darklin | Caeryn, that answer was for you. |
| 01:53.51 | Caeryn|Work | Qshadowp: nope, the current version is based on Drathal's 0.86 work, when he wrote 0.9b6 he made a crapton of changes |
| 01:54.04 | Qshadowp | aww :P |
| 01:54.22 | Caeryn|Work | i know :( I wish Drathal was still working on it nifty work though |
| 01:54.29 | Qshadowp | thats something you need to implement :P |
| 01:54.31 | Caeryn|Work | Darklin: thanks |
| 01:55.47 | Darklin | Caeryn: Remember when they started doing the download of the prepatch data? They mucked something up royally and for most people it downloaded to the desktop. So they patched to make it go where it was supposed to go but that mucked up other stuff. |
| 01:56.01 | ripper_ | what is the new way to assign labels to buttons in the xml? |
| 01:56.34 | Qshadowp | dhud moved again! |
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| 01:57.21 | Caeryn|Work | Qshadowp: lol sorry mate, i never tested it on 2monitors |
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| 01:58.14 | VII|Beherit | hi there |
| 01:58.19 | VII|Beherit | anyone of the ctmod team here? |
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| 01:58.32 | jaxdahl | Cide is, from time to time |
| 01:58.45 | VII|Beherit | mhm k thx |
| 01:58.56 | VII|Beherit | would be interesting to know if theres comin a new ctraidtracker |
| 01:59.05 | VII|Beherit | damn making dkp today was too awfull :X |
| 01:59.27 | Qshadowp | whats the name of the default blizzard casting bar frame? |
| 01:59.49 | jaxdahl | VII|Beherit, forums.eqdkp.com |
| 01:59.54 | jaxdahl | there's one there |
| 01:59.57 | SP|Sorren` | can i scale iceHUD? |
| 01:59.59 | VII|Beherit | OMG OMG THX :D |
| 02:00.22 | Cide | VII|Beherit: /gasp |
| 02:00.24 | Qshadowp | tell me tell me tell me :P |
| 02:00.42 | SP|Sorren` | i bet its called CastingBar |
| 02:00.43 | SP|Sorren` | or something |
| 02:00.47 | SP|Sorren` | use dtframestack |
| 02:00.49 | SP|Sorren` | and find out :P |
| 02:00.57 | Qshadowp | ? |
| 02:01.02 | Qshadowp | im useing MoveAnything |
| 02:01.06 | Qshadowp | doesn't show up as a frame when i mouse over :( |
| 02:01.17 | SP|Sorren` | thats because mouse isn't enabled for it i think |
| 02:01.17 | Nom- | Anyone seen a mod similar to confab yet? |
| 02:01.40 | SP|Sorren` | you have devtools? |
| 02:01.50 | Caeryn|Work | CastingFrame: I think |
| 02:02.01 | Caeryn|Work | I don't remember offhand atm |
| 02:02.13 | Qshadowp | aha its in the list in moveanything |
| 02:02.15 | Qshadowp | got it :) |
| 02:02.18 | SP|Sorren` | ;p |
| 02:02.22 | Qshadowp | bleh it still didn't hide |
| 02:02.25 | Qshadowp | even when i hide it :( |
| 02:02.46 | Qshadowp | oh well, 3 casting bars ftw? |
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| 02:03.37 | SP|Sorren` | have it unregister the UNIT_SPELLCAST_START event ;p |
| 02:04.10 | SP|Sorren` | or is it SENT now? |
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| 02:05.05 | End | ugh, I'm getting quality values of -1 for everything with GetContainerItemInfo() |
| 02:05.23 | ripper_ | the addon kit from the dev forum is not finding wow |
| 02:05.33 | ripper_ | even tried putting it in the wow directory |
| 02:05.37 | ripper_ | what am I missing? |
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| 02:06.29 | Nom- | Need to find a mod which fixes those hideous default chat frames |
| 02:07.02 | Nom- | yay for alphamap and atlasloot |
| 02:07.37 | ckknight | how many letters can a EditBox contain? |
| 02:07.58 | [Liquidor] | 255? :> |
| 02:08.58 | ckknight | no, it's definitely more |
| 02:09.13 | cladhaire | maxLetters |
| 02:09.18 | cladhaire | i think its been tested up to 99999 |
| 02:09.35 | [Liquidor] | Oh |
| 02:09.39 | [Liquidor] | That one :) |
| 02:09.47 | [Liquidor] | Erhm dunno, what do you need that for |
| 02:09.59 | ckknight | cladhaire, cool. |
| 02:10.43 | Nom- | wowi web site must be getting hit so hard :/ |
| 02:11.13 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: you can set your own max. |
| 02:11.19 | Tain | I tested your mom up to 99999. |
| 02:11.35 | [Liquidor] | :SetMaxLetters(x) |
| 02:13.16 | Nom- | Anyone know if AWStats is wokring in 2.0 yet? |
| 02:13.23 | Nom- | So much better than DamageMeters |
| 02:14.44 | Eternally777 | SWStats? |
| 02:15.15 | Nom- | Yeah, SWStats :P |
| 02:15.20 | Eternally777 | http://www.sw-stats.com/ |
| 02:17.39 | Cide | CTRA v1.61 uplaoded - (most likely) fixes the freeze on raid changes |
| 02:17.50 | Nom- | most likely? :P |
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| 02:18.41 | Cide | confirmed by 40+ people |
| 02:18.46 | Cide | but it's been weird in the past so |
| 02:18.46 | [Liquidor] | Hey Cide, what was that freeze about btw? :) All of my friends were PM'ing me to death about it. |
| 02:18.52 | Cide | dunno really |
| 02:18.54 | Cide | but it's fixed |
| 02:18.57 | [Liquidor] | Heh |
| 02:19.06 | [Liquidor] | I got half of my realm on me waiting for the fix |
| 02:19.26 | Nom- | anyone know if there's a cutdown version of CTRA ? |
| 02:19.40 | Nom- | I only need the methods that let raid leaders do an item check lol |
| 02:21.23 | Kirkburn | I love flying mounts :P |
| 02:22.35 | Nom- | I still don't have my epic ground mount :( |
| 02:22.46 | Kirkburn | =( |
| 02:22.53 | Nom- | did they nerf mage bombing runs yes? |
| 02:22.55 | Nom- | yet? |
| 02:22.57 | Kirkburn | Well, if it makes you feel any better, I can't afford my epic flying mount yet |
| 02:23.19 | Kirkburn | You mean casting from mounts |
| 02:23.20 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 02:23.30 | Nom- | no, mage bombing runs |
| 02:23.48 | Nom- | dismount, slow fall + trinket + arcane power + pom + pyro |
| 02:24.02 | Kirkburn | O_o ... painful |
| 02:24.07 | Kirkburn | No idea, and I doubt it :P |
| 02:24.40 | Nom- | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3756629738003675684&q=mage+bombing |
| 02:29.15 | Kirkburn | Ouch |
| 02:30.43 | [Liquidor] | Heh |
| 02:31.10 | NeT[LD] | pwned |
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| 02:38.16 | Nom- | Just need PerfectRaid and someone to modify my chat frames and then i'll be back to normal |
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| 02:41.46 | MentalPower | crud, Space Shuttle Discovery launch scrubbed |
| 02:42.05 | Thrae | They Discovered that their budget is too small. |
| 02:43.00 | Kirkburn | I like how there's an evil base just behind Aldor Rise :P |
| 02:43.16 | Nom- | Three cheers for Friday! |
| 02:43.49 | DJBlackwing | @#$@#$%!% WTB: CT_Barmod |
| 02:44.49 | Tuller | bongos updated, the stance issue should be fixed |
| 02:45.00 | Kirkburn | Patience by young padawan |
| 02:45.06 | Kirkburn | *my |
| 02:45.33 | Kirkburn | @#$@#$%!% WTB: Proof-reading skillz |
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| 02:47.34 | TC_Sleeping | WTS: english teacher |
| 02:47.35 | Nom- | lol |
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| 02:47.42 | Nom- | im doing that from now on for my test users |
| 02:47.54 | Nom- | One will be called "Elvis Presley", the other "Victor Nefarian" |
| 02:48.01 | Nom- | Noone got the second one |
| 02:48.02 | Nom- | Yet... |
| 02:48.19 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn, did my submission turn out all right? |
| 02:48.25 | Cairenn | Mike-N-Go: yes |
| 02:48.35 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: :0 yay |
| 02:48.38 | Kirkburn | Awesome, you can interact with vendors whilst flying |
| 02:48.53 | Nom- | $self->geek_status( $self->geek_status +1 ); |
| 02:48.59 | Mike-N-Go | Kirkburn: Really? |
| 02:49.16 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 02:49.27 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:50.15 | Mike-N-Go | If those be numbers? |
| 02:50.27 | Mike-N-Go | Variables for numbers. |
| 02:51.24 | Nom- | er no |
| 02:51.35 | Nom- | That's a one-line perl statement |
| 02:52.42 | Mike-N-Go | Huh, I was thinking that was math. |
| 02:53.00 | Nom- | perl object :P |
| 02:53.39 | Kirkburn | Math? Math?! On *this* channel?? |
| 02:53.54 | Cairenn | inconceivable! |
| 02:54.25 | Mike-N-Go | Don't you know that programing really comes down to math? |
| 02:55.26 | ckknight | me fail english? that's unpossible! |
| 02:56.11 | Nom- | sif math |
| 02:56.35 | Nom- | The only math I have to do when coding is when i'm producing finance reports |
| 02:56.41 | Thrae | My favorite Pi is pumpkin. |
| 02:56.54 | Nom- | The finance people get narky when your multi-million dollar reports are out by a few percent :) |
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| 03:07.05 | Darklin | Tuller: is it just me or did you do a massive code cleanup for 6.12.7? |
| 03:07.07 | Darklin | Hehe |
| 03:08.08 | Nom- | *sigh* just saw another one of those stupid commercials |
| 03:08.21 | Nom- | Can someone please explain to me how something you get for free can fund something? |
| 03:08.34 | Darklin | Nom-: What's that? |
| 03:08.48 | Nom- | "Piracy funds terrorism" |
| 03:08.57 | Nom- | How can getting something for free fund something? |
| 03:09.03 | Darklin | rofl |
| 03:09.06 | Nom- | idiots. |
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| 03:09.44 | Tuller | Darklin: the bar and button code was simplified a little, yes |
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| 03:11.17 | Darklin | Tuller: Looks good. =) |
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| 03:13.19 | Tuller | I need to stare at trinity and bartender for Ui ideas again it seems |
| 03:13.34 | Tuller | i'm way too used to just doing /bob hide 7-10 menu key bags |
| 03:14.22 | Darklin | Tuller: are you catching shapeshifts using the PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED? |
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| 03:15.31 | Tuller | Darklin: its all handled by the secure state driver and on attribute changed now |
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| 03:17.21 | Darklin | Tuller: Ah. |
| 03:17.31 | Darklin | I was poking around in main.lua hunting for it. |
| 03:17.32 | Cairenn | night Malivil-Sleep |
| 03:17.41 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know how to transfer CT_player Notes SV into 2.0? |
| 03:17.54 | Tuller | Darklin: the only reason I ever had my own events for it was for optimization purposes |
| 03:18.54 | Darklin | Tuller: Cool. |
| 03:19.05 | Cairenn | morning norgs |
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| 03:22.39 | Kirkburn | I'm repitititicious, but I <3 my snowy gryphon =) |
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| 03:27.25 | Thunder_Child | nice. wowi seems to be back to something aproaching normal useage |
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| 03:28.44 | PProvost | good evening everyone |
| 03:28.57 | Thunder_Child | Hello PProvost |
| 03:29.02 | Cairenn | hi PProvost |
| 03:29.34 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: yeah, we're actually in pretty good shape now ... still not perfect, and still some limitations, but not too bad overall |
| 03:29.38 | PProvost | Hey Cairenn, I've got a few questions about something. Mind if I PM? |
| 03:29.46 | Cairenn | go for it |
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| 03:30.29 | Thunder_Child | indeed, far better tha it was with 9K + on at the same time |
| 03:30.36 | Thunder_Child | s/tha/than/ |
| 03:30.52 | Thunder_Child | then* |
| 03:33.33 | PProvost | Hey Dolby-wowi, got time for a couple of questions? Cairenn said I should be talking to you... |
| 03:35.13 | sysrage | is anybody working on cryolysis? i'd give my left nut for a working version |
| 03:36.11 | Thunder_Child | what wrong with the right one? |
| 03:36.12 | abug | cryogenics? |
| 03:36.45 | abug | you want your left nut frozen for 10,000 years? |
| 03:37.01 | sysrage | exactly |
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| 03:40.15 | Darklin | Tuller: This SecureStateHeader stuff makes my eyes bleed. Yours? |
| 03:40.34 | Tuller | Darklin: look at cogsbar to better understand it |
| 03:40.39 | ckknight | stigmata ftw, Darklin |
| 03:41.08 | abug | purl, calculate the optimal margin sizes to two decimal places for a 6.67 page paper in Times New Roman font (size 12) in order to bring it to 7.67 pages |
| 03:41.35 | PProvost | lol |
| 03:41.39 | Xuerian | Optimistic request, abug XD |
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| 03:42.42 | Darklin | Tuller: Actually, I did. I kindof understand it. Just tough slogging for someone with zero LUA experience. |
| 03:42.57 | Darklin | And about that much WoW UI experience. |
| 03:42.58 | Darklin | Hehe |
| 03:43.02 | Tuller | Darklin: its tough for anyone who didn't write it :P |
| 03:43.29 | Bleeter | how do we go about measuring 'strain' on the GC? |
| 03:44.22 | abug | ask him next thursday when he picks up your leg shaped lamp? |
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| 03:47.03 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, is the search function on lunch break? |
| 03:47.36 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: *shrug* haven't tried using it lately |
| 03:47.57 | Thunder_Child | hmm..well it returned nothing no matter what i put in |
| 03:48.03 | Thunder_Child | returns* |
| 03:48.06 | Cairenn | what are you looking for? |
| 03:48.13 | Thunder_Child | itemsync |
| 03:48.48 | Thunder_Child | then i tried item...and got nothing so i figured it was on break |
| 03:49.27 | Darklin | Ah, apparently my poking Iriel with pointy sticks has aroused anger! /hides |
| 03:49.29 | Cairenn | verifying, but yeah, I think Dolby-wowi has it pulled atm, to help with the load |
| 03:49.36 | Thunder_Child | ok, np |
| 03:49.37 | Iriel | Rrrraawww |
| 03:49.56 | Cairenn | hey Iriel :) |
| 03:50.09 | Darklin | Iriel: SecureStates make baby Jesus cry... |
| 03:50.28 | Darklin | s/SecureStates/SecureStateHeaders |
| 03:50.32 | Iriel | Darklin: Baby jesus would cry a whole lot more without them |
| 03:50.50 | Thunder_Child | not during combat |
| 03:51.02 | Darklin | I'm sure. Just wrapping my head around them is kinda like hitting a telephone pole at 142mph. |
| 03:51.12 | Darklin | All that's left is squishy goo... |
| 03:51.20 | Iriel | though theyve a fairly precipitous learning curve |
| 03:51.37 | Darklin | I blame Tuller. /nod /nod |
| 03:52.20 | Thunder_Child | Darklin, SecureStateHeaders: "It has the effect of having your brains smashed out with a slice of lemon... wrapped around a large gold brick. |
| 03:52.20 | Thunder_Child | " |
| 03:53.05 | Cairenn | Darklin & ckknight: http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html - bottom row, second from the right |
| 03:53.27 | Cairenn | nsfw |
| 03:54.04 | Garoun|Loupana | scary with you posting that and my lovely scratched eye issue |
| 03:54.38 | Cairenn | hey, they started it |
| 03:55.13 | Drundia | Iriel, how does button determine if it should trigger OnClick when receiving OnMouseDown and OnMouseUp with custom button names? |
| 03:55.40 | abug | aww it wasn't porn |
| 03:55.49 | Darklin | Cairenn: lol, pretty funny. |
| 03:55.59 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:56.01 | Drundia | what? normally u get porn when u dont want it, not otherwise |
| 03:56.28 | Darklin | Garoun|Loupana: Have a scratched cornea? |
| 03:56.57 | Darklin | If so, i feel for you. I had that when I was a kid. Took almost a month under a patch to heal properly. |
| 03:56.59 | Iriel | Drundia: It's based on RegisterForClicks |
| 03:57.14 | PProvost | Has anyone found an in-game Lua editor/runner (a la LuaSlinger) that works in 2.0? |
| 03:57.30 | Tuller | bleh, I reallly wish I could log into the blizzard forums |
| 03:57.33 | abug | wasn't there a tbc verison of luaslinger? |
| 03:57.54 | PProvost | Not seeing one on Ithilyn's site |
| 03:58.15 | Drundia | Iriel, and in what way? is the way it is currently reliable? |
| 03:58.21 | abug | I can't imagine a whole lot changed for that |
| 03:58.31 | PProvost | Yeah, I suppose it might just run. |
| 03:58.34 | PProvost | Didn't actually try it. |
| 03:58.44 | Iriel | Drundia: Did I cover it in my changes thread? |
| 03:59.25 | Drundia | no. but i think u couldnt use custom button names before 2.0. outside of button:Click() which probably triggers click in all cases or? |
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| 04:00.52 | Iriel | Drundia: self:RegisterForClicks("AnyUp") |
| 04:01.14 | Drundia | but that will make all clicks with all buttons. |
| 04:01.38 | Iriel | Yes, there's no mechanism to selectively get some custom buttons but not all |
| 04:02.32 | Nom- | Anyone know how to stop WoW from 'clicking' every time someone in your raid group leaves, joins or zones A? |
| 04:02.46 | abug | ctrl + s? |
| 04:03.23 | abug | or whatever turns off sound |
| 04:03.37 | Drundia | last time i tried custom button up will trigger if there is at least one "*Up" is registered and same for down. |
| 04:05.31 | Garoun|Loupana | Darklin: Not sure, I think it's a combination of dust, extremely dry air due to the sudden cold front, and whatever I got in it on wed that I tried to get out |
| 04:05.44 | Tuller | Now, bonus points for being able to different things per click, bt to a button already mapped to a virtual button |
| 04:06.07 | Darklin | Garoun: Well, if it hurts for much longer, don't play around. Go to the E-Room. |
| 04:06.11 | Garoun|Loupana | I do my best to ice it every 30-45min for 15min to keep any swelling or infection under control |
| 04:06.46 | Darklin | Also, consider picking up one of those $2.00 eye wash kits at Wally World. Use it several times then once every hour. |
| 04:07.17 | Garoun|Loupana | don't believe it's actually the cornea, feels more like the lower part of the white/bottom eyelid |
| 04:07.18 | Darklin | The kits that come with the little eye cup that you fill up with sterile saline and then put the cup over your eye and blink/rotate your eye. |
| 04:07.44 | Darklin | The Cornea covers the majority of the anterior portion of the eye. |
| 04:08.37 | PProvost | Just go to the emergency room or urgent care. Your vision isn't worth playing around with. |
| 04:08.42 | Darklin | Nom-: I saw someone yesterday explaining a Macro for shutting off just that |
| 04:09.01 | Darklin | Basically he was remapping PlaySound() so that it no longer was able to play the specific sound at all. |
| 04:09.03 | Garoun|Loupana | I've actually scratched it before and this feels different |
| 04:09.08 | Nom- | Emergency Room = Uber $$$ for you in the US isn't it? |
| 04:09.23 | Garoun|Loupana | feels more like early pink eye |
| 04:09.24 | malreth | Nom-: depends on your insurance |
| 04:09.25 | Darklin | Nom-: Indeed, unless you don't have insurance or do have insurance. |
| 04:09.36 | Nom- | that sucks man |
| 04:09.38 | Garoun|Loupana | it costs me 100$ for an er visit :) |
| 04:09.40 | Darklin | Most e-rooms have low/no insurance rates. |
| 04:09.44 | Garoun|Loupana | and 20$ for the doctor |
| 04:09.44 | End | ugh, the macro system has power I want to put into an addon |
| 04:09.48 | Garoun|Loupana | I have good insurance |
| 04:09.50 | Nom- | Didn't cost me a cent when I broke my collarbone in a car accident over here |
| 04:09.55 | Nom- | That was through Public Hospital |
| 04:10.01 | End | I suppose I could just create 12 macros to do what I want |
| 04:10.08 | Darklin | Nom-: Canada? |
| 04:10.12 | Nom- | Australia |
| 04:10.37 | malreth | social service: Insurance + capitalism = no good |
| 04:10.50 | Nom- | apart from hospital overcrowding, the health system here is pretty good |
| 04:10.58 | Nom- | I pay for private health cover as well |
| 04:11.00 | Darklin | Malreth: Funny, I feel the same way about socalized medicine. |
| 04:11.18 | Nom- | But for most stuff you don't need it |
| 04:11.38 | Nom- | I mean, put it this way...if you went into a hospital with a legitimate life threating injury, it doesn't matter if it's private or public, you'll get treated |
| 04:11.54 | Garoun|Loupana | Darklin: it feels mostly like the lower lid is irritated then scratched eye, luckally |
| 04:11.55 | Darklin | Nom-: True, just you may end up paying for the rest of your life for it. |
| 04:12.14 | Nom- | I hear these horror stories of hospitals kicking people to the curb in the US when you don't have appropriate insurance? |
| 04:12.23 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm just treating it as though it's scratched cornea because the treatment is the same :) |
| 04:12.25 | Darklin | Garoun|Loupana: Good. You don't have a sty forming do you? Check the tear duct to see if it's swollen and red. If so, I have a home remedy for it. |
| 04:12.27 | Nom- | Darklin: Hardly... |
| 04:12.28 | malreth | yeah, horror stories... |
| 04:12.43 | Nom- | There's no difference here between public and private medicine |
| 04:12.50 | Nom- | The only difference is what is and isn't covered |
| 04:13.04 | Nom- | for private medicine, you might get a free single-room |
| 04:13.08 | Darklin | Nom-: I'm in America, was more talking about over here than in AU. |
| 04:13.10 | Nom- | but public you'd have to share with 3 others |
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| 04:13.17 | Garoun|Loupana | nah, tears no problem at all the weather dropped 50 degrees in the last day and it dried the air out |
| 04:13.29 | Nom- | Yeah, I wouldn't trust public medicine in the US |
| 04:13.32 | Garoun|Loupana | and I'm very sensitive to temp/humidity changes |
| 04:13.37 | Nom- | Do you even have GP's over tehre? |
| 04:13.39 | Darklin | Garoun|Loupana: Ah, ok. Then, like you said, it's mostlikely just irritation. |
| 04:13.49 | Darklin | Visene is your friend... |
| 04:14.04 | Darklin | General Practitioners? Aye, tho they're becoming fewer and further apart. |
| 04:14.38 | Nom- | ok well put it this way...if you sprained your ankle or got the flu, where would you go if you needed to see a doc? |
| 04:14.40 | Darklin | To get an appointment with my HMO's GP I have to call at least 30 days in advance. |
| 04:14.42 | Garoun|Loupana | my primary goal is to not let an infection pop up and cause pink eye or worse, bacterial... it SUCKS |
| 04:14.52 | Darklin | Nom-: I'd call my GP then go to the emergency room. |
| 04:15.04 | Nom- | That's screwed up |
| 04:15.07 | Nom- | lol |
| 04:15.14 | Nom- | I'd call my GP and go down there the same day lol |
| 04:15.18 | Garoun|Loupana | the constant icing and changing the paper towel helps keep the tears fresh |
| 04:15.37 | Darklin | Nom-: My particular GP is the only one for 35 miles in any direction. |
| 04:15.41 | Nom- | The government over here is actually subsidising specialist apppointments to keep people out of the emergency room |
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| 04:15.52 | Darklin | So he's booked solid 99% of the time and only has room for 1 or 2 emergency visits a day. |
| 04:16.07 | Nom- | damn, that's screwed up :/ |
| 04:16.13 | Nom- | They're everywhere here |
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| 04:16.27 | Nom- | I can drive 10 minutes in any direction and pass GP |
| 04:16.36 | Darklin | With lawsuits the way they are in the US I'm amazed we even have a medical profession |
| 04:16.40 | Nom- | Except for west |
| 04:16.49 | Nom- | If I drive West for 10 minutes, i'll end up in the ocean |
| 04:16.51 | Darklin | You know, my GP pays close to 500k a month in malpractice insurance. A MONTH! |
| 04:17.11 | Nom- | That's screwed up :( |
| 04:17.14 | Darklin | Indeed. |
| 04:17.21 | Darklin | Evidence of a busted system. |
| 04:17.30 | Nom- | Damn you all and your legitous society |
| 04:17.37 | Nom- | happy to sue at the first little problem |
| 04:17.47 | Nom- | litigous i think is the word i was after |
| 04:17.55 | Nom- | i can't spell it lol |
| 04:17.57 | malreth | i don't think you'll find many americans who would disagree with saying that the health system here sucks |
| 04:17.58 | Darklin | Class Action Lawsuits are going to be the dowfall of the US, if the bigwigs don't do it for us first. |
| 04:18.06 | Darklin | Nom-: Close enough. |
| 04:18.23 | Nom- | The sad part is, we're starting to move that way too :( |
| 04:18.27 | Darklin | I think you got it right with Litigous. |
| 04:18.44 | malreth | ~dict litigous |
| 04:18.51 | Garoun|Loupana | yay! We are pleased to report that the following item will ship |
| 04:18.51 | Garoun|Loupana | sooner than expected: |
| 04:18.51 | Garoun|Loupana | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.51 | Garoun|Loupana | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:19.01 | Garoun|Loupana | bah stupid copy paste |
| 04:19.05 | Nom- | But the Government here is trying to prevent medicine from going down the toilet where possible |
| 04:19.10 | Darklin | Nom-: The US Judicial system needs an overhaul IMO. |
| 04:19.18 | malreth | i don't get my copy of BC:CE until feb 2 |
| 04:19.19 | Garoun|Loupana | amazon had sent the stupid we won't ship until Feb email |
| 04:19.23 | Garoun|Loupana | check your email mal |
| 04:19.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I got the same message |
| 04:19.45 | Nom- | I don't got mail yet :( |
| 04:19.48 | Garoun|Loupana | the new message just came about 2 hrs ago |
| 04:19.54 | Darklin | Garoun|Loupana: I have my reservation at the local EBGames. What is the projected release date now? |
| 04:20.15 | malreth | my fiancee got that email... but i haven't. :( |
| 04:21.07 | Garoun|Loupana | Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:09:00 -0800 it's really delayed |
| 04:21.12 | Garoun|Loupana | it took almost 3hrs to get to me |
| 04:21.25 | Garoun|Loupana | it hasn't changed Dark, just amazon was screwing people over a week ago :P |
| 04:21.49 | Garoun|Loupana | they sent emails to everyone that pre-ordered CE's saying they wouldnt' ship until feb |
| 04:21.52 | Nom- | I'm going to buy it online if I can |
| 04:22.08 | Garoun|Loupana | you'll easily be able to order the non-CE version |
| 04:22.36 | Garoun|Loupana | the CE version is the one that's going to be scarce, and already is :P |
| 04:23.01 | Nom- | They really should do their best to bring back the GPs over there tho |
| 04:23.18 | Nom- | I mean .. save the emergency room for when you put an ice pick in your leg |
| 04:23.44 | Nom- | it should be for emergencies, not for when you've got the sniffles or something like that |
| 04:24.01 | Garoun|Loupana | they've closed a lot of Emergi-cares around me in Northern Virginia |
| 04:24.45 | malreth | ok... i checked on amazon.com and it's saying jan 17 delivery date now |
| 04:25.01 | jaxdahl | link to updated bongos? |
| 04:25.06 | Garoun|Loupana | I wanna play wow on my new tv :( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7RACK/104-6690593-9088753 |
| 04:25.26 | Tuller | jaxdahl: www.wowinterface.com |
| 04:31.09 | Darklin | Tuller: Question if I may. Why are you attaching a state driver to each and every bar instead of just the bars that are capable of paging/changing during stance changes? |
| 04:31.21 | Darklin | Easier that way or is there some obvious reason I'm not seeing. |
| 04:33.42 | Nom- | lol |
| 04:33.49 | Nom- | Looks like tonight is going to be a good night |
| 04:34.18 | Nom- | We're going to a bar and |
| 04:34.43 | Nom- | Let's just say the exec has cleared some limit on the company credit card |
| 04:35.15 | Darklin | hehe nice |
| 04:35.48 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:36.15 | Nom- | Just as well the cops don't stop people on motorcycles here very often :D |
| 04:36.35 | Nom- | Should have taken the train tho :D |
| 04:43.19 | Tuller | Darklin: there's one for each bar because I haven't altered bars yet to only use a single one :) |
| 04:43.52 | Tuller | also, I just scared myself because I thought there was a paging issue, where it was that I in fact had two bars over one another |
| 04:45.48 | Darklin | Tuller: Ah, ok. |
| 04:48.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | dffffffff |
| 04:48.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops :x |
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| 04:48.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | windows was being strange :O |
| 04:50.54 | PProvost | Has anyone else had problems scrolling the chat window? The buttons don't work... wheel scrolling addons don't work... hosed! |
| 04:51.11 | Nom- | :~( |
| 04:51.26 | Nom- | I want Confab and ConfabScroll back :~( |
| 04:54.03 | Darklin | Hrm. So what needs to be done in order for bongos to remember what hotkey page I was on when the state changed and return to that same page instead of going to the new shapeshift page? Because it looks as if you've got the LoadStateMaps() function creating the mapping for each 'stance'. |
| 04:54.28 | Darklin | From what I'm reading, it should be working. |
| 04:54.47 | Tuller | Darklin: the state transitions for each stance have to map 1:6001;2:6002; etc |
| 05:07.13 | MentalPower | ~seen wobin |
| 05:07.41 | purl | wobin is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 37m 51s) #wowace (7h 37m 51s), last said: '~silence'. |
| 05:08.12 | Darklin | Tuller: LoadPageStates() is where this magic needs to be happening, am I right? |
| 05:08.40 | Tuller | you want to change the load druid/rogue/priest/warrior states |
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| 05:14.04 | Darklin | Sorry for being such a pest... So, I want to create associations to map statemap-stance-6001 with statemap-actionbar-1? |
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| 05:16.13 | kaiden | man they made raiding way fricken harder now :( |
| 05:16.33 | kaiden | my guild just nearly wiped on ony, and we did wipe on razor, we haven't wiped on ony in 6 months and haven't wiped on razor in over 3 :P |
| 05:18.00 | ckknight | oh noez were is teh decursive! |
| 05:19.22 | End | we were having petbar issues on razor |
| 05:19.34 | End | not being able to pop eggs makes it a difficult fight :P |
| 05:19.57 | kaiden | End, yeah we're having pet bar issues but basically we had to switch our strat to not kite the mobs and just kill them all |
| 05:20.04 | kaiden | that was the only way we coudl even get to razor himself |
| 05:20.26 | kaiden | then he just smacked us to hell since they nerf'd the crap out of warriors aggro generation |
| 05:20.46 | kaiden | i saw another 3 hour bwl guild who couldn't even get past vael now due to warriors not being able to hold aggro |
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| 05:30.29 | Darklin | Bleh, something funky is up with Stormrage. |
| 05:30.56 | Darklin | First it wouldn't let me log out. Now it's sitting at the Retrieving Character Data page for forever |
| 05:31.26 | jaxdahl | yay for 2.0.2 changes thread |
| 05:32.49 | Bleeter | hah, draino WPL quest has bugged out on Thorium Brotherhood |
| 05:32.52 | Bleeter | 20 peeps hanging @ chillwind for the past hour waiting for him to return |
| 05:33.24 | Bleeter | seems someone died during the quest, and the NPC has gone mad at the end of it's walk |
| 05:34.01 | jaxdahl | priest quest in EPL seems a little bugged |
| 05:34.31 | jaxdahl | the NPC was doing yell '$s :priest|priestess:' or something like that |
| 05:35.15 | jaxdahl | lol wow, new API function |
| 05:35.17 | jaxdahl | Dismount() |
| 05:35.21 | SP|Sorren` | if i do a macro say /cast [nomodifier] Hunter's Mark, will that work? |
| 05:35.41 | SP|Sorren` | or do i have to do nomodifier:ctrl/alt/shift? |
| 05:35.48 | SP|Sorren` | or does nomodifier not work at all? |
| 05:35.54 | Nargiddley | first one should work |
| 05:36.23 | SP|Sorren` | cool |
| 05:36.32 | Neuro | nomodifier works fine |
| 05:37.10 | Kirkburn | Mind if I get a bit political? I found this quite "revealing": http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/bb_wm_fs.stm?nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&news=1&nol_storyid=6218946 |
| 05:37.23 | jaxdahl | why do you need [nomodifier] in the first place? |
| 05:37.28 | jaxdahl | it seems redundant |
| 05:38.14 | SP|Sorren` | to save macro room |
| 05:38.37 | SP|Sorren` | i can do /stopmacro [nomodifier]; [modifier:shift] |
| 05:38.46 | SP|Sorren` | then everything after it will only work if i use alt or ctrl right? |
| 05:40.06 | jaxdahl | can you do [nomodifier/modifier:shift] ? |
| 05:40.36 | Darklin | Kirkburn: Straw Dog? |
| 05:40.59 | SP|Sorren` | from what i understand / isn't for multiple conditions |
| 05:41.06 | SP|Sorren` | but for multiple values for a single condition |
| 05:41.16 | SP|Sorren` | like modifier:ctrl/alt |
| 05:43.23 | Kirkburn | Darklin, I just found Bush's response to be, er, a 'rampage' of words. There probably was a bit of that in there, but god knows if he knew he was doing it ... |
| 05:43.38 | SP|Sorren` | woo it works |
| 05:43.40 | VoidRaider | morning everyone :) |
| 05:44.18 | Darklin | Kirkburn: To be honest? I wonder if he knows half of what he's saying. I will grant him that he has intelligence. Just none when it comes to public speech. Hence the Straw Dog comment. Someone out there taking the arrows for 'sounding' stupid. |
| 05:44.39 | SP|Sorren` | morning VoidRaider |
| 05:45.10 | Darklin | It seems he goes on verbal tirades alot tho... Granted, I don't hear him in day to day conversation, but in public it does seem that way. |
| 05:45.10 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I know what you're saying. I think Blair made a much more coherent response. (btw, this is where I came upon it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2006/12/soft_language.html) |
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| 05:45.57 | Kirkburn | Aah, politics, eh :) |
| 05:46.10 | Kirkburn | And here we are worrying about WoW addons :P |
| 05:46.18 | Darklin | I try to avoid it as much as possible, sadly, it's getting to the point where I can't. |
| 05:46.43 | Darklin | Kirkburn: Mainly because if I worried about politics constantly you'd see me on the 11 o`clock news on a belltower somewhere. |
| 05:46.50 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 05:46.51 | Kirkburn | There was a tornado in London yesterday \o/ |
| 05:46.54 | Darklin | Politics make Darklins brain go squishy. |
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| 05:47.11 | Darklin | Ahh, hooray for Global Warming. |
| 05:47.23 | Darklin | Oh, I'm sorry, Global Climate Change... |
| 05:47.29 | Darklin | Or whatever the present party line is. |
| 05:47.38 | Kirkburn | Actually, the UK has been a popular destination for tornados for a long time |
| 05:47.47 | Darklin | In the dead of winter? |
| 05:47.55 | Kirkburn | We have one of the highest tornadoes/area^2 in the world |
| 05:48.11 | Darklin | Britan proper or just the UK? |
| 05:48.20 | Kirkburn | Yes, well, there's no accounting for a tornadoes holiday destination tatse |
| 05:48.27 | Kirkburn | *taste |
| 05:48.29 | Darklin | This is true. heh. |
| 05:48.35 | Kirkburn | UK, I think |
| 05:48.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone know if there's a working version of moveanything or something similar around? :O |
| 05:48.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss being able to move, hide, scale everything |
| 05:49.17 | Darklin | Mr_Rabies: Nota yeta that I know of. I've been thinking about playing with it to see if I can fix it but I've been noodling bongos as thats the centerpiece for my UI. |
| 05:49.42 | Darklin | When I say noodling bongos I really mean pestering Tuller. |
| 05:49.43 | Darklin | Hehe |
| 05:50.34 | bnovc | is stunwatch not supposed to be able to count polymorpishm/etc? |
| 05:50.39 | bnovc | only ccwatch did that? |
| 05:50.43 | Kirkburn | Awesome! The worst Star Wars merchandise ever :D http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ashen1/ashen/menu/swars.htm |
| 05:55.44 | Nom- | yay wowi is working again |
| 05:56.54 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 05:57.16 | Thunder_Child | next time this happens i am asking for a copy of the DB |
| 05:57.17 | Nom- | WTB Mod Screenshots lol |
| 05:57.30 | Nom- | What did happen? |
| 05:57.55 | Cairenn | we've been working again for hours now guys :p |
| 05:58.00 | Neuro | Ok, I totally want that album |
| 05:58.09 | Nom- | It was really, really slow a couple of hours ago |
| 05:58.15 | Nom- | It seems to be responding now reasonably quick |
| 05:58.46 | Cairenn | time zones |
| 05:59.29 | Nom- | What does AutoRack mod do..anyone tried it? |
| 05:59.41 | Nom- | I'm chasing something which will put all my pots and stuff in a popup menu |
| 06:00.03 | Nom- | I don't care that it can't change in combat, so long as i can go to one spot to get a popup for all my mana pots and gems etc |
| 06:00.31 | Cairenn | "This mod can present up to 8 items in bags to use in a priority you define. (basically AutoBar for 2.0)" |
| 06:00.56 | VoidRaider | Hmm if there were few people casting, the default enemy casting bar will show only one of them each time ? aight ? |
| 06:01.26 | Cairenn | Nom-: enough from the description or want more quoted? |
| 06:01.27 | jaxdahl | i think the default casting ba only shows your target |
| 06:01.36 | VoidRaider | ah ok :) |
| 06:02.10 | Kirkburn | Yup, that's what I found earlier |
| 06:02.41 | Kirkburn | Using the enemy casting bar nameplates, they only showed up on my targetted mob |
| 06:03.04 | Kirkburn | (I'm guessing you can show two, if another mob is your focus?) |
| 06:03.32 | VoidRaider | hmm |
| 06:03.54 | VoidRaider | I wonder it, I better check it out before I'm working on it :) |
| 06:04.48 | Kirkburn | To bed. I'll see about ClearFont 2moro, assuming the UI sites are faring well then =) |
| 06:05.10 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
| 06:05.25 | Kirkburn | G'night Cair! |
| 06:05.32 | VoidRaider | night mate |
| 06:07.43 | Nom- | That sounds like what I need |
| 06:07.49 | Nom- | I wouldn't I find that description lol |
| 06:08.51 | Cairenn | "This mod was created to fill in for AutoBar which requires rethinking for BC. Instead of buttons that UseContainerItem, this mod exposes up to 8 bag slots on the screen in a configurable window, with the option of creating a priority of items to store in those slots. |
| 06:08.51 | Cairenn | You can drop health potions, healthstones, bandages, tubers and otherconsumables onto one slot. Mana potions, mana gems, etc into anotherslot. Food into a third, etc. Sort the order you want to use them(options window), and if auto swaps are enabled the slots will attemptto hold the best item currently available and off cooldown." |
| 06:09.02 | Cairenn | because you didn't do a search on the main site for the mod? |
| 06:09.24 | Nom- | ah i just found that |
| 06:10.17 | bnovc | are there any working mods out that 1) can show me lengths of multiple attack durations (stuns, poly, etc) 2) change my icon hp/mana to a square thing instead of the big textured thing and 3) give me lengths for flights |
| 06:10.24 | zenzelezz | things like SCO and RIAA make me pity the decent Americans... you already have enough trouble with the president, and then you get these organizations adding to it... no wonder no-one likes you ;) |
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| 06:13.38 | Thunder_Child | 3) tofu, (with fubar) |
| 06:13.58 | bnovc | aw, i have to get the bar to do it? |
| 06:14.10 | Thunder_Child | i belive so |
| 06:14.35 | Thunder_Child | 1) naturs enemy cast bar...(spelled somewhere along thoes lines) |
| 06:14.43 | Cairenn | or flight map: http://fs2.wowinterface.com/download.php?id=3897 |
| 06:15.06 | bnovc | Thunder_Child: that will show how long my polymorph lasts on an enemy? |
| 06:16.31 | bnovc | Cairenn: thanks |
| 06:16.33 | DJBlackwing | Anyone else get a lag hiccup anytime someone leaves/joins a raid? |
| 06:16.42 | Cairenn | bnovc: welcome |
| 06:17.00 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 06:17.01 | Nom- | bnovc: Antagonist I think can do that too |
| 06:17.06 | Nom- | Well, does do that |
| 06:17.17 | zenzelezz | DJBlackwing: using CTRA? |
| 06:17.24 | Thunder_Child | though you may/may not need to have the target slected...i dont thinks o but i cant remeber |
| 06:17.29 | Thunder_Child | remember* |
| 06:17.30 | bnovc | Nom-: does do which? the timers? |
| 06:17.40 | Nom- | yeah, part 1) |
| 06:17.53 | Nom- | FuBar_ToFo for 3) |
| 06:17.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god this macro is so awesome it should be illegal |
| 06:18.05 | DJBlackwing | Yeah Zen... but i have it disabled.. or so i thought |
| 06:18.12 | Nom- | 2) What big textured thing? Screenshot? |
| 06:18.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.21 | Thunder_Child | i really like cronometer, but i dunno if it does others |
| 06:18.29 | bnovc | Nom-: the default area that has your player's head and your mana/life |
| 06:18.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.36 | Thunder_Child | Chronometer* |
| 06:18.38 | bnovc | Nom-: i saw a screenshot tha tlooked a lot nicer before |
| 06:18.43 | zenzelezz | DJBlackwing: well, I'm not certain that that's what causing it, but CTRA has had some lag issues with the new UI... there seems to have been another update for it recently |
| 06:19.04 | bnovc | so there is no way w/o me getting the fubar? |
| 06:19.05 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/WoWScrnShot_112506_210336.jpg <-- like those? |
| 06:19.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really like this new macro system |
| 06:19.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm abusing the hell out of it |
| 06:19.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can spam even more mindlessly than pre 2.0 because the commands aren't all lua |
| 06:20.10 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:20.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're just logical |
| 06:20.24 | Nom- | one-button attack combos |
| 06:20.39 | bnovc | do most of you use fubar instead of titan? |
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| 06:20.50 | Nom- | I do |
| 06:20.55 | zenzelezz | why do you assume we all use some bar mod at all? =D |
| 06:20.57 | Nom- | I think I used to use Titan or another bar like it |
| 06:21.09 | Nom- | zenzelezz: Probably because you're in a WoW modding channel? |
| 06:21.15 | zenzelezz | so? |
| 06:21.21 | Nom- | oh, didn't see the 'bar mod' |
| 06:21.25 | Nom- | i just saw 'mod' :P |
| 06:21.32 | zenzelezz | that would explain it |
| 06:21.34 | Neuro | I used titan before 2.0 |
| 06:21.37 | bnovc | zenzelezz: there was an implied if in my statement |
| 06:21.39 | Neuro | now I haven't loaded anything yet |
| 06:21.53 | seebs | Hi! I am trying to do a related group of pop-up menus, from a template. I have gotten as far as calling an OnClick handler for the button that pops up the menu, but what can I put in the <OnClick> script that will tell me which UI item called it? |
| 06:21.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use fubar mostly because it's updated more often than titan |
| 06:22.18 | seebs | ... OnClickHandler(this) just gives me a table of [0] -> userdata object. I would be happy with the name of the UI item. |
| 06:22.34 | zenzelezz | I once tried to use Titan, but couldn't seem to find out which file was the central part to download, so I never got around to it |
| 06:23.01 | Nom- | I'm pretty sure I used Titan before, and switched to FuBar because it had much more support from other addons |
| 06:23.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh here's another good macro |
| 06:23.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | /castrandom [target=mouseover] Cure Poison, Remove Curse |
| 06:23.30 | Neuro | sadly, I only downloaded titan for the clock in the corner =) |
| 06:23.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | spam that crap over your raid bar and bam it's almost decursive |
| 06:24.24 | bnovc | so antogonist does what ccwatch and stun watch try to do? |
| 06:26.31 | seebs | Doh. arg1:GetName(). |
| 06:26.51 | bnovc | i installed bugsack to try to diagnose why i couldnt apply poisons, use teleport, or unlock boxes because of errors but it doesnt seem to do anything and /bugsack doesn't work |
| 06:28.22 | Thunder_Child | is there an event for feign death? |
| 06:29.21 | Inside | oO |
| 06:29.25 | Inside | ON_DIE |
| 06:29.26 | Inside | oh shi0 |
| 06:30.31 | Thunder_Child | only because as a priest i have a heart attack when hunters f/d...and i want to know |
| 06:30.43 | pastamancer | Thunder_Child: UNIT_AURA :( |
| 06:30.52 | Thunder_Child | only way? |
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| 06:31.04 | pastamancer | there isn't a specific feign-death event |
| 06:31.53 | Thunder_Child | rolaids need to come prepackaged with fd |
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| 06:36.04 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 06:36.35 | seebs | Anyone here willing to help a newbie puzzle out UI drop down menus? I can make the menus appear, but when the menu hit function gets called, it has no arguments, so I can't tell what menu got hit or what item got selected. |
| 06:36.45 | bnovc | Nom-: yea, like that |
| 06:36.53 | bnovc | Nom-: sorry didnt see the url |
| 06:43.49 | Cairenn | seebs: unfortunately, people are either a) winding down from a long day or b) just waking up yet |
| 06:44.18 | Cairenn | (in general) |
| 06:44.44 | Kaelten | ya I think this is the lull |
| 06:44.45 | Cairenn | it isn't that you are being ignored, per sae, so don't take it that way |
| 06:45.23 | zenzelezz | /comfort Cairenn |
| 06:45.39 | Kaelten | I'm worried what saturday will bring |
| 06:45.48 | Kaelten | I'm sure wow has a good chunk of weekend warriors |
| 06:46.12 | Cairenn | we managed to break the crushing demand, which gave the other sites a chance to get back on their feet too, and as they come up, it lets us work better, so they can work better so we can ... |
| 06:46.33 | Cairenn | Kaelten: *nod* that's my concern too, but hopefully ... |
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| 06:48.06 | Kaelten | we'll see |
| 06:48.24 | Kaelten | a weeks rush wouldn't be unexpected out of this |
| 06:48.38 | Kaelten | good news is this is probably the worst patch rush we'll see for a long time |
| 06:48.38 | seebs | Cairenn: Well, I figured out a solution. |
| 06:48.59 | seebs | My workaround is to, when getting a click on a button, extract the useful part of the button's name, and store it in a local variable in my addon. |
| 06:49.17 | seebs | Then I know which menu was last brought up, and since only one pop-up menu exists at once, I know which menu the hit was on. |
| 06:49.43 | Thunder_Child | whats on saturday? |
| 06:49.48 | Cairenn | the weekend |
| 06:49.54 | Nom- | bnovc: That's X-Perl Unit Frames |
| 06:50.00 | Thunder_Child | cute...thats sounds like one of my answers |
| 06:50.13 | Nom- | The raid listing was PerfectRaid, but the unit frame (my stats) are X-Perl Unit Frames |
| 06:50.27 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: Kael summed it up precisely |
| 06:50.55 | Thunder_Child | ah, i thought it was part of something larger..ok |
| 06:50.59 | Cairenn | all those that don't have time through the "week" to deal with the patch and their mods and stuff, and will be showing up on the weekend |
| 06:51.05 | Thunder_Child | in that case...WTB wowi DB |
| 06:51.15 | seebs | Wooo! I have succeeded! I now have a working pop-up menu. |
| 06:51.35 | Cairenn | well, as said, hopefully we've managed to break it |
| 06:52.05 | Cairenn | (the crushing demand) |
| 06:52.53 | Cairenn | seebs: grats |
| 06:53.53 | Thunder_Child | lol Cairenn, yes break the site |
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| 06:54.39 | beastathon | Is anyone elses WoW connecting, then disconecting? |
| 06:55.32 | seebs | Do dah! |
| 06:55.48 | seebs | I now have buttons with a pop-up menu, and when you select something from the menu, the button text changes to what you selected. |
| 06:56.00 | zenzelezz | neat =) |
| 06:56.04 | seebs | I gotta nap soon, but I think tomorrow I will have a working mod. |
| 06:56.13 | seebs | Soon, my name will be cursed throughout the land. |
| 06:56.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:56.37 | Cairenn | welcome to our world |
| 06:57.10 | seebs | My mod is called "AnnoyRP". It lets you set a probability for any given event, such as "failed to cast frostbolt" or "cast demon skin", that your character will randomly say something from a list. |
| 06:57.17 | seebs | I will put in dire warnings for any probability over 10%. |
| 06:57.47 | seebs | Anyway, right now, all it lets you do is scroll a list of fifty identical frames with half-functional UI widgets, but the rest will come! |
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| 06:58.37 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:58.42 | seebs | Hello. |
| 06:58.52 | Cairenn | night sedatedChipmunk, hi s|loup :) |
| 07:01.03 | Xuerian | Is there a way to keep the Event Log from popping up with each devtools load? >.> |
| 07:01.46 | Inside | woot woot woot. |
| 07:01.48 | Darklin | OMG I fixed MoveAnything! |
| 07:01.52 | Inside | WE GOT SIGNAL |
| 07:02.03 | Cairenn | unh, Darklin? |
| 07:02.16 | Darklin | Cairenn: Yes? |
| 07:02.25 | Inside | 3,500 lines of code produces me a black lump on the screen :) I'm happy xP |
| 07:02.59 | Cairenn | Darklin: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6341-MoveAnythingBC.html |
| 07:04.04 | Darklin | Bleh... |
| 07:04.10 | Inside | Okay, I like, it's 3,200 lines of code <_< |
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| 07:04.15 | Darklin | Not sure why I bother. |
| 07:04.38 | Cairenn | awww, didn't mean it that way |
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| 07:04.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:05.02 | Cairenn | hey ckknight |
| 07:05.29 | Thunder_Child | hey ck |
| 07:05.40 | Darklin | Cairenn: No, it's really not your fault. Just annoying that I spent the past hour bughunting only to find out that not only had someone beat me to the punch but done it over a week ago. |
| 07:05.57 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 07:06.17 | Darklin | Blizzard really needs to step up and create a centralized repository for UI mods |
| 07:06.40 | Darklin | No offense meant to the folks at Curse and WoWi but their servers just can't handle the massive load. |
| 07:06.58 | End | "* /click now works with secure action buttons " |
| 07:06.59 | End | damn! |
| 07:07.06 | Xuerian | Darklin: Not like wow's servers handle it anybetter. |
| 07:07.08 | End | I'll have to wait to finish that section of code! |
| 07:07.12 | Inside | Er |
| 07:07.24 | Cairenn | perish the thought ... you have any idea how lost I'd be without you lot around to make my life crazy? |
| 07:07.25 | Inside | You did notice how worldofwarcraft not only crashed and burnt, but also left a scorching crater? |
| 07:09.30 | End | odd though |
| 07:09.37 | End | the forums stayed up longer than the main site |
| 07:09.37 | zenzelezz | with regards to the central repository idea... that would only work if everyone used it |
| 07:09.58 | zenzelezz | as you can already see, some prefer WoWI, some curse, some others... not reason everyone should like a Blizzard one |
| 07:10.06 | zenzelezz | *no |
| 07:10.25 | Thunder_Child | saomeone make a hack for the link that puts enchantments back to green...or at least different |
| 07:10.29 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: that too |
| 07:11.02 | zenzelezz | oh man, I've lost count of how many times I saw "wtf, my enchants are gone!" in guild chat yesterday |
| 07:11.21 | Inside | enchants are gone? |
| 07:11.25 | zenzelezz | no |
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| 07:11.33 | Thunder_Child | well some items have abilitys that are close to some enchants out there, it wouls be nice to differentiate them |
| 07:11.33 | zenzelezz | but people don't spot them in the white text |
| 07:12.25 | Darklin | Why did blizzard find it necessary to change it like that? What was wrong with the old method of enchants? |
| 07:12.40 | Darklin | Changing it up to make way for Sockets? |
| 07:12.40 | Thunder_Child | maybe something to do with gems |
| 07:12.42 | Inside | Yeah, that was kind of weird. |
| 07:12.44 | Inside | Maybe.. |
| 07:12.46 | Inside | But still |
| 07:12.54 | Inside | Make the enchants green, socket boosts yellow or somethin |
| 07:13.31 | jaxdahl | it's a bug |
| 07:13.34 | jaxdahl | they will change it back |
| 07:13.38 | zenzelezz | could have just made them like enchants... "Socket: <stat>" |
| 07:13.45 | Darklin | jaxdahl: They've stated it's a bug already/ |
| 07:13.59 | Inside | that's an awfully big bug.. |
| 07:14.03 | Darklin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:15.42 | Thunder_Child | has anyone gotten rating buster to work...or something similar? |
| 07:18.11 | Thunder_Child | nice search is back up |
| 07:18.31 | Thunder_Child | s/e s/e, s/ |
| 07:18.38 | Darklin | Well, back to Bongos being the only thing left to have everything back on my UI. |
| 07:18.58 | Cairenn | yeah, Dolby re-enabled it a while back |
| 07:19.18 | Nom- | I <3 CSS |
| 07:19.32 | Cairenn | umm, around 11pm est, from my log |
| 07:19.48 | Thunder_Child | so what are the odds that 5.2 will come out in time for tBC?...hehe |
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| 07:20.51 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, you around? |
| 07:21.03 | ckknight_ | gah |
| 07:21.05 | Thunder_Child | .....well that was odd |
| 07:21.07 | ckknight_ | Thunder_Child, yes |
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| 07:21.27 | Thunder_Child | is friendsfu yours? |
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| 07:23.41 | ckknight | no |
| 07:24.27 | Nom- | pub time |
| 07:24.35 | Nom- | work is even providing free transporation |
| 07:24.37 | Nom- | :D |
| 07:25.03 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks |
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| 07:32.18 | beastathon | Anyone elses WoW logging in, then d/c ? |
| 07:33.02 | Inside | They're doing reboots now, no/ |
| 07:33.12 | beastathon | AHK |
| 07:33.15 | beastathon | woops, caps. |
| 07:33.43 | zenzelezz | depends which servers you mean |
| 07:34.33 | Inside | ~_~ |
| 07:34.42 | purl | :/ |
| 07:34.42 | Inside | all of them |
| 07:34.56 | Kaso | its this to do wuth the illeged dupebug |
| 07:35.23 | zenzelezz | Inside: no |
| 07:35.28 | zenzelezz | my EU server is running entirely fine |
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| 07:36.58 | Inside | fine fine ._. |
| 07:37.00 | Inside | dupe bug? |
| 07:37.12 | Inside | Is that the one where you sell something to an NPC and then go to battlegrounds and get your item and money? |
| 07:37.13 | Inside | >_> |
| 07:37.36 | Kaso | Well i say this with a bit out doubt, but yeh the rumor is serveral million gold has been duped on mannorth |
| 07:37.52 | zenzelezz | isn't it generally best to not spread duping techniques? |
| 07:38.07 | Inside | It's hearsay |
| 07:38.10 | Inside | from gamefaqs, of all places. |
| 07:38.16 | Kaso | even if what he said is true, you'd be a retard to try it. |
| 07:38.25 | Inside | Hint: Gamefaqs is a house of lies. |
| 07:39.19 | Kaso | Well all my info comes from SA, but the current thinking is it could all be a huge scam |
| 07:39.49 | Inside | SA, another house of lies |
| 07:39.49 | Inside | ~_~ |
| 07:39.57 | purl | :/ |
| 07:39.57 | Inside | itneresting |
| 07:40.04 | Inside | what :p |
| 07:40.05 | Kaso | quiet purl! |
| 07:40.26 | Inside | Hmmm. |
| 07:41.38 | Kaso | nah, SA jsust likes it's pranks |
| 07:41.41 | Darklin | Anyone know how to get the current state of a SecureStateHeader for debug output? |
| 07:42.02 | Neebler | ~tilde |
| 07:42.04 | purl | tilde is, like, the thing usually to the left of the one key, or to represent home directory, or next to the enter key on sensible keyboards, or above hash, or probably located in different places on international keyboards but only UK keyboards matter, or the prefix to get ibot/jbot to listen to you |
| 07:42.28 | Thunder_Child | only UK keyboard matter.... |
| 07:42.29 | Darklin | ~SecureState |
| 07:42.35 | Inside | ~jbot |
| 07:42.37 | purl | [jbot] only marginally useful at best, He got a C- on his Turing Test |
| 07:42.46 | Darklin | Hehe nice. |
| 07:42.54 | Thunder_Child | is there bad puns going on here? |
| 07:44.49 | Cairenn | in here? nevah! |
| 07:45.00 | Neebler | ~emulate cairenn |
| 07:45.02 | purl | ACTION purrs |
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| 07:45.50 | a-stray-cat | oh power supply, i knew thee well :( |
| 07:46.06 | warpandas | hey I have a question. |
| 07:46.07 | Cairenn | uh oh |
| 07:46.16 | Cairenn | not to you warpandas ;) |
| 07:46.25 | warpandas | in this picture: http://dethecusdrama.com/nurfed/sticker/screens/ui.jpg which font package is that? |
| 07:46.27 | Darklin | warpandas: We don't do questions... =P |
| 07:46.34 | warpandas | I know the mod is ClearFont |
| 07:46.45 | warpandas | I would just like to know what to change in the .lua file so that I can get that font. |
| 07:47.04 | Cairenn | if Kirkburn were here he could probably tell you in a jiffy, but he's currently sleeping |
| 07:47.08 | a-stray-cat | browse through the clearfont folder |
| 07:47.16 | a-stray-cat | and double click each font until you find the one you need |
| 07:47.21 | warpandas | I have done that. |
| 07:47.31 | a-stray-cat | none of them is that particular font? |
| 07:47.35 | warpandas | I know this is a popular one but I can't find it. |
| 07:47.36 | Darklin | I believe it's BaarSophia |
| 07:47.54 | Darklin | Just from a quick visual comparison |
| 07:48.26 | a-stray-cat | has anyone ever managed to revive a power supply? I think the fan in my power supply broke |
| 07:48.45 | a-stray-cat | a while ago actually |
| 07:48.49 | a-stray-cat | i guess i should just get a new one ;P |
| 07:50.40 | Darklin | a-stray-cat: It's possible to put a new fan in a power supply, tho that begs the question, why? |
| 07:50.52 | Wobin | ~seen mentalpower |
| 07:51.10 | purl | mentalpower <n=chatzill@host-70-45-82-211.onelinkpr.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 2h 11m 18s ago, saying: 'gnight guys'. |
| 07:51.10 | Darklin | You'll most like as spend the same amount, if not more on a whole supply. |
| 07:51.10 | warpandas | It's not BaarSophia |
| 07:51.18 | Inside | ~seen inside |
| 07:51.36 | purl | inside is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 2h 15m 25s). Has said a total of 42 messages. Is idling for 18s, last said: '~seen inside'. |
| 07:51.53 | Inside | oh shi- time paradox |
| 07:52.58 | a-stray-cat | i wish the local computer shop was open late at night ;o |
| 07:55.23 | Davey2 | lol |
| 07:55.36 | Bleeter | ooh, arena's turned on @ 5AM PST |
| 07:55.47 | Darklin | Man I really like that minimap replacement. |
| 07:56.00 | a-stray-cat | poo, i won't have a power supply at 5am :( |
| 07:56.38 | Cairenn | time to shut 'er down a-stray-cat |
| 07:58.19 | a-stray-cat | oh its bricked already |
| 07:58.23 | a-stray-cat | this is the laptop |
| 07:58.53 | Cairenn | and speaking of shutting down ... night guys |
| 07:58.59 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn|afk |
| 07:59.58 | Thunder_Child | woot, every pvp gam in the entire cyclone bg network just got shut down |
| 08:00.03 | Thunder_Child | game* |
| 08:01.03 | a-stray-cat | nigth Cairenn|afk |
| 08:01.06 | Inside | so.. |
| 08:01.10 | Inside | where is eye of the storm btw? |
| 08:01.29 | a-stray-cat | this is the "Before the Storm" patch, no eye of the storm for you! |
| 08:01.50 | Bleeter | eye of the storm is prolly Blizz's dev dept. right now ;) |
| 08:02.05 | Bleeter | their probably calm... or maybe not ;) |
| 08:02.27 | Bleeter | 2.0.2 wasn't finished, you would've preferred further delay to this release, and BC? |
| 08:02.41 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 08:03.06 | Wobin | Actually, yes |
| 08:03.28 | Corrodias | i could have gone another week or two with 1.12 |
| 08:03.50 | a-stray-cat | what's the difference between 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 btw? |
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| 08:04.04 | Bleeter | two weeks wait = christmas time |
| 08:04.11 | Bleeter | insanity releasing around then |
| 08:04.21 | Bleeter | so it would've been Jan 16th |
| 08:04.26 | Bleeter | and more of a wait for BC, probably |
| 08:04.34 | Corrodias | i don't see why it's bad to release something new around christmas |
| 08:04.58 | Corrodias | mostly some bug fixes. the one thing standing out in my mind is that the modifier key processing is fixed, back to how it was in 1.12 |
| 08:05.09 | Wobin | damn modifier key |
| 08:05.18 | Thunder_Child | corr that will be fixed, prolly on tuesday |
| 08:05.30 | Thunder_Child | trust in the slouken |
| 08:05.40 | Bleeter | 2.x API is such a major revision, to release it when so many people would be away on holidays, both the Blizz employees, and us mod developers, would be a complete recipe for further disaster |
| 08:05.50 | Bleeter | I don't trust slouken |
| 08:05.55 | Bleeter | i worship every pixel |
| 08:06.14 | Corrodias | i have no doubt that he finished the solution. i just don't know if he can push new changes onto the servers at his whim. |
| 08:06.18 | zenzelezz | you'd rather have these big changes right before or at the time of BC? |
| 08:06.52 | a-stray-cat | i never have |
| 08:06.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope if/when we get another patch we get updated freaking spells and talents too :[ |
| 08:06.58 | a-stray-cat | and don't plan to ;p |
| 08:07.04 | Corrodias | no. but you know, i don't like playing things with bugs any more than the next guy does. |
| 08:07.05 | Thunder_Child | well it looks like it will be in the 2.0.2 fix |
| 08:07.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want the awesome mangle, and updated bear, etc |
| 08:07.13 | Thunder_Child | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54916062&pageNo=1&sid=1#9 |
| 08:07.14 | Bleeter | a-stray-cat: wise mood. unless it's a very good company, it's complete hell |
| 08:07.27 | a-stray-cat | that's what i heard |
| 08:07.38 | Bleeter | that amount of money riding on every single keypress, etc., is just insane |
| 08:08.19 | Bleeter | as a project manager, having to make the cut/delay decision is incredibly hard with any evolving software |
| 08:08.28 | Bleeter | online games, imo, are an even tougher call |
| 08:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | * If you add a #showtooltip line to your macro, it will show the tooltip of the item or spell in addition to the normal visual feedback. |
| 08:08.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
| 08:09.16 | Bleeter | I just don't appreciate 'official' patchnotes that are out of sync with what is pushed ;) |
| 08:09.43 | Thunder_Child | yes but Bleeter, you have the ability to add it in later on online games, whereas not always on other game |
| 08:09.59 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 08:10.48 | Bleeter | which introduces hellish regression issues |
| 08:10.55 | Bleeter | moreso than offline software |
| 08:11.13 | Thunder_Child | true but with online games you have...time |
| 08:11.28 | Bleeter | how 'delayed' is BC now? |
| 08:11.45 | Thunder_Child | 2 months? |
| 08:11.46 | Bleeter | not taking into account there was never a release date given earlier, apart from the Nov one |
| 08:12.03 | Bleeter | i seem to recall Blizz saying last year they wanted an expansion pack out soon-ish |
| 08:12.07 | Inside | I've listened to this song like 20x times before I just went "oh.. huh." |
| 08:12.15 | Inside | >_> |
| 08:12.23 | Thunder_Child | learn2crack |
| 08:12.31 | a-stray-cat | ^ |
| 08:12.48 | Thunder_Child | well they are realeasing one |
| 08:12.50 | Bleeter | I'd almost place money on that Nov date being about 3 months minimum later than what they wanted, so we're probably talking 6-8 months later already |
| 08:12.50 | a-stray-cat | last year was blizzcon |
| 08:12.58 | a-stray-cat | and i think they said they were aiming for the summer |
| 08:13.17 | Corrodias | i'd rather have them do it right than do it soon, if they have to choose between the two |
| 08:13.18 | a-stray-cat | which of course, no one expected them to hit |
| 08:13.28 | a-stray-cat | at least, you didn't if you had followed blizzard's release styles before ;o |
| 08:13.36 | Bleeter | if everyone had to wait for software working right |
| 08:13.42 | Bleeter | we'd still be using abacuses |
| 08:13.47 | Bleeter | abaci.. hmm |
| 08:14.06 | Inside | abacii! |
| 08:14.07 | Inside | >_> |
| 08:14.14 | Bleeter | QUACK! |
| 08:14.35 | Bleeter | Microsoft have far more software engis, far more money, yet they're always delayed and buggy |
| 08:14.48 | Corrodias | my preference stands |
| 08:14.49 | Inside | Wasn't it like 10,000 engineers worked on vista for 4 years? |
| 08:14.58 | Bleeter | it's a fact of life in commercial software environment |
| 08:15.09 | a-stray-cat | i don't know how'd you coordinate 10,000 people working on the same code |
| 08:15.10 | Corrodias | if it isn't enjoyable, i won't use/play it |
| 08:15.13 | Bleeter | just the general public expect far more, because Hello World is so easy |
| 08:15.22 | Inside | Currently I'm working on a tiny game and I can tell you it's a fucking mindfuck. |
| 08:15.34 | Corrodias | unless there's no other choice and i'm force to use -something- |
| 08:15.36 | Inside | I mean it's just a plain mindfuck D= |
| 08:16.19 | Bleeter | anyways, either way, 2.0.1 is here. No more patches until BC, except for critical fixes... |
| 08:16.48 | Bleeter | Of course, they have to work out what of the 'known' bugs should be listed as critical, triage them, assign staff, work out if they have enough time, etc. etc. |
| 08:17.05 | Bleeter | Inside: gdb is your pal :D |
| 08:17.05 | Inside | My favourite kind of error. |
| 08:17.09 | Inside | I'm using msvc. |
| 08:17.12 | Corrodias | a month without the ability to cast on myself in a convenient manner -- but then, i had been wanting to play some other games that have been building up |
| 08:17.32 | Inside | Why? |
| 08:17.40 | Inside | MSVC++ is brilliant. |
| 08:17.42 | a-stray-cat | im so glad i picked a class that has no buffs to cast on other people |
| 08:17.46 | Inside | It's definatelly a product made with lots of love. |
| 08:17.58 | Inside | For developers by developers. |
| 08:17.58 | Bleeter | << free software bigot |
| 08:18.06 | a-stray-cat | bigot~ |
| 08:18.16 | Inside | Well if it makes you feel any better, I'm using like 4 LGPL'd libraries with my code. |
| 08:18.21 | a-stray-cat | if im a pir8, does that make me a free software bigot too? |
| 08:18.38 | Inside | Even more, boost, ogre, enet, tinyxml, opengui, OIS, newton |
| 08:18.52 | Inside | with the exception of newton, the rest are all LGPL or freer. |
| 08:18.54 | Bleeter | Inside: ah, well it'll just be a very shallow grave then :) |
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| 08:19.16 | Bleeter | any BSD code? ;) |
| 08:19.23 | Bleeter | *BSD license |
| 08:19.36 | Inside | Um, I think opengui is bsd and so s tinyxml |
| 08:19.38 | Inside | maybe enet too |
| 08:19.46 | Inside | oh, so is ois |
| 08:19.50 | Inside | >_> |
| 08:20.13 | Bleeter | I wish more mods went GPL, or even inferred free |
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| 08:20.32 | Inside | GPL sucks. |
| 08:20.34 | Inside | LGPL is where it's at. |
| 08:20.50 | Inside | Although mods can't be LGPL either.. |
| 08:20.58 | Inside | It's a conundrum, actually.. |
| 08:21.22 | Inside | If you release a Lua library under LGPL you're not actually compiling it to anything. |
| 08:21.25 | cleardragon | why does it matter when you can't sell them and you can't obfusticate the code? |
| 08:21.32 | Inside | I suppose with Lua it's moot since sauce code is provided ~_~ |
| 08:21.32 | zespri|home | so what do we use instead of MapLibrary nowadays? |
| 08:21.49 | Inside | You can compile lua code to binary =P |
| 08:21.56 | cleardragon | within wow? |
| 08:22.11 | Inside | No, you can provided pre-compiled lua code. |
| 08:22.24 | End | WoW doesn't accept pre-compiled lua code anymore though |
| 08:22.29 | Inside | anymore? |
| 08:22.31 | End | it hasn't for quite a while |
| 08:22.35 | Kaso | used to in beta |
| 08:22.38 | cleardragon | that would be a huge security back door if true |
| 08:22.38 | Inside | ah, heh. |
| 08:22.41 | Kaso | thottbot was always compiled |
| 08:22.42 | Inside | Not really. |
| 08:22.59 | Inside | Precompiled isn't any different than not-compiled. |
| 08:23.17 | Inside | Except it saves the interpreter time from compiling it itself. |
| 08:23.20 | cleardragon | lets say i complile my favorite keylogger to keylog.exe and then call it from within wow |
| 08:23.31 | Inside | That's not the kind of precompilation it is. |
| 08:23.37 | Corrodias | is that compiled Lua? you have a Lua keylogger? |
| 08:23.38 | Inside | It's lua byte code. |
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| 08:24.02 | cleardragon | i was illustrating why complied COULD be a security risk |
| 08:24.11 | cleardragon | of course i don't have alua kleylogger |
| 08:24.25 | Inside | it can't be a security risk, at all. |
| 08:24.28 | Corrodias | but your example failed to provide a plausible risk |
| 08:24.29 | a-stray-cat | it still wouldn't be a risk |
| 08:24.43 | Corrodias | the question is, could you make library calls with precompiled code that you couldn't without it? i think the answer is no. |
| 08:24.45 | cleardragon | so i call keylog.exe from within wow |
| 08:24.50 | a-stray-cat | you can't |
| 08:24.53 | Inside | You can't. |
| 08:25.04 | cleardragon | i know |
| 08:25.07 | a-stray-cat | you couldn't |
| 08:25.15 | Inside | It's not possible, that's the point of the interpreter. |
| 08:25.15 | cleardragon | but what does pre-cpompliled mean then? |
| 08:25.17 | Corrodias | the lua inside keylog.exe couldn't do anything that you can't do from a .lua script |
| 08:25.27 | Inside | pre-compiled to lua bytecode. |
| 08:25.28 | End | precompiled means it's already compiled into bytecode |
| 08:25.29 | End | that's it |
| 08:25.29 | Corrodias | speed, as i understand |
| 08:25.45 | cleardragon | i see - like python pyc things |
| 08:25.48 | Inside | Yesh |
| 08:25.55 | cleardragon | my bad - misunderstood |
| 08:25.56 | Corrodias | ...hic! |
| 08:26.07 | End | WoW will do it on every start AddOn up anyways, nothing special really |
| 08:26.17 | End | s/start AddOn/AddOn start/ |
| 08:26.51 | Kaso | the old difference is you could do nasty things like mail away all the players gold and you couldnt tell by reading source, but tbh noone reads all the source of all thier addons |
| 08:27.04 | Inside | indeed. |
| 08:27.13 | Inside | Not that you cant' easily decompile the bytecode anyway. |
| 08:27.26 | Inside | Since lua more or less depends on not using any name mangling, I believe. |
| 08:27.42 | a-stray-cat | tbh? |
| 08:27.47 | Inside | to be honest. |
| 08:27.48 | cleardragon | anyoen play in alanguage other than english? |
| 08:27.50 | a-stray-cat | ah |
| 08:28.06 | a-stray-cat | sorry, enUS here :( |
| 08:28.19 | a-stray-cat | though i would like to play in chinese |
| 08:28.23 | a-stray-cat | get some practice |
| 08:28.38 | cleardragon | same here but I am looking for an Auctioneer.lua not in English |
| 08:28.48 | cleardragon | ideally v3.9 |
| 08:28.56 | a-stray-cat | well, lua is lua in any language :/ |
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| 08:29.14 | cleardragon | the data file from svedvariables is what i am after |
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| 08:32.39 | Thunder_Child | wtb og mods |
| 08:32.55 | cleardragon | og? |
| 08:33.34 | Thunder_Child | well literaly og means origial gangster |
| 08:33.42 | Thunder_Child | original* |
| 08:33.50 | Thunder_Child | i am useing it just as original |
| 08:34.00 | Thunder_Child | as in pre 2.x mods |
| 08:34.18 | cleardragon | you want out of date mods? |
| 08:34.43 | Thunder_Child | no, i want to use those mods with the new system |
| 08:34.49 | cleardragon | ah i see |
| 08:34.54 | a-stray-cat | i miss flexbar ;( |
| 08:35.01 | Thunder_Child | i miss group buttons |
| 08:35.10 | a-stray-cat | i miss ICU |
| 08:35.12 | cleardragon | i wonder if they managed to break wowglider with this patch |
| 08:35.19 | Thunder_Child | they did an tbc icu |
| 08:35.25 | a-stray-cat | yah |
| 08:35.28 | a-stray-cat | its not the same though |
| 08:35.34 | a-stray-cat | but its still better than nothing |
| 08:36.03 | a-stray-cat | they should add the og ICU to the base UI, imo |
| 08:36.08 | a-stray-cat | tracking is kinda useless without it |
| 08:36.09 | axxo | icu=? |
| 08:36.14 | a-stray-cat | i see you |
| 08:36.16 | a-stray-cat | tracking mod |
| 08:36.24 | Thunder_Child | well the thing is is that gb wasnt even against the new bliiz rules...just needed the 2.1 update |
| 08:36.25 | a-stray-cat | used to create a dropdown menu when you clicked on a tracking blip |
| 08:36.30 | a-stray-cat | showing blip info |
| 08:36.38 | Thunder_Child | 5.1* |
| 08:39.46 | Thunder_Child | ~moo Thunder_Child |
| 08:39.55 | purl | ACTION moos at Thunder_Child |
| 08:42.01 | [Cu]Werik | Mooorning |
| 08:42.15 | a-stray-cat | morning |
| 08:42.25 | a-stray-cat | is it just me, or has an adblock eaten the first screenshot on each mod :P |
| 08:42.47 | Thunder_Child | ..meh way early morning |
| 08:53.04 | Thunder_Child | interesting...i have a minimap button that has no tooltip and is not clickable |
| 08:54.26 | a-stray-cat | its the latest incarnation of that gem from diablo 2 |
| 08:54.44 | Thunder_Child | ummm...no it's an eye |
| 08:54.49 | a-stray-cat | thats lfg |
| 08:54.50 | Thunder_Child | that looks around |
| 08:54.57 | Corrodias | so i've come to the first part of writing my resume: stating objectives, or goals |
| 08:55.00 | Corrodias | and i have none, really |
| 08:55.08 | a-stray-cat | ;( |
| 08:55.12 | Thunder_Child | oh ffs, i'm not even lfg or lfm |
| 08:55.21 | a-stray-cat | Goals: To make monies! |
| 08:55.34 | Thunder_Child | to go higer to make more monies |
| 08:55.35 | a-stray-cat | you should put ph4t l3wts imo |
| 08:56.05 | Corrodias | i have sort of a dream of either being paid to do nothing or being given enough money that i never have to do anything, but that's not really a job objective |
| 08:56.37 | [Cu]Werik | I like it |
| 08:57.29 | [Cu]Werik | What about having a job what you love and having enough morey that you never have to do anything? |
| 08:57.58 | Corrodias | the thing about having a job that i love is that i'm not aware that i really like anything |
| 08:59.08 | [Cu]Werik | You don't make your life easier, do you ? :-) |
| 08:59.55 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, you still around? |
| 08:59.56 | Corrodias | i like playing games... |
| 09:00.10 | ckknight | I have never left you, child |
| 09:00.23 | Corrodias | but i don't know that i have the attention span for testing them and reviewing without any kind of journalism degree could be quite a stretch |
| 09:00.27 | Thunder_Child | i am geting a C stack overflow |
| 09:00.35 | Thunder_Child | in aceevent-2.0 |
| 09:00.45 | chuckg | I've been getting them since patch, don't know what's causing it. |
| 09:01.00 | Thunder_Child | well it "proced" when i left the bg |
| 09:01.03 | Thunder_Child | procced? |
| 09:01.06 | Thunder_Child | ...w/e |
| 09:03.54 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, upgrade GloryLib, HonorFu, and Ace2 |
| 09:04.10 | Corrodias | my degree is in software development, but i think i'd be much happier in system/network administration |
| 09:04.14 | Thunder_Child | ok, i have been running winaceupdater all day now |
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| 09:06.31 | Thunder_Child | hmmm...i dont seem to have glorylib |
| 09:07.01 | Corrodias | long-term goal? just to have a comfortable job and work on |
| 09:09.42 | Corrodias | on and on until i can retire, at which point i can hopefully still see a computer screen in front of my face to play games |
| 09:12.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys is it posabel to make a macro that will make my tranqulising shot say a message when i hold down shift and shoot else when i dont press shift it will just shoot ? |
| 09:12.50 | Thunder_Child | lolz "Please call me after 5:30 because I am self-employed and my employer does not know I am looking for another job." |
| 09:13.40 | Corrodias | that reminds me, i think some old 80's-era cartoons suggested to me that some employers get very upset if their job isn't the only job you have |
| 09:13.45 | Corrodias | like they think it's a sexual relationship or something |
| 09:13.52 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, dont do any of this http://www.funny2.com/resume.htm |
| 09:14.49 | Thunder_Child | i -love- stupid people |
| 09:15.02 | Corrodias | i'm not sure i see what's wrong with this, "In my last position, got nowhere as part of a 60-person herd.", except perhaps the informality |
| 09:17.15 | Thunder_Child | i would love to meet these people in person....but i would never be able to keep a straight face |
| 09:18.50 | Thunder_Child | btw, ty ckknight |
| 09:19.34 | ckknight | you're welcome |
| 09:24.54 | Corrodias | now what do i put on this resume if i have a horrible loathing of wearing suits? |
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| 09:25.16 | Thunder_Child | relaxed enviorment prefered? |
| 09:26.17 | Corrodias | arr |
| 09:29.57 | Corrodias | i wonder if my years of experience of installing pirated software is of any use ;P |
| 09:30.55 | Thunder_Child | umm...can install software w/o a manual? |
| 09:31.40 | Corrodias | :D |
| 09:31.41 | Thunder_Child | can get hard to find items |
| 09:31.57 | Corrodias | i pick up on a new program pretty quickly |
| 09:33.17 | chuckg | Tuller just made me the happiest man alive. |
| 09:33.20 | chuckg | "Added the ability to bind hotkeys directly to the spellbook" |
| 09:33.50 | Thunder_Child | see here --> "10[12/08/2006 - 01:33] chuckg: 01Tuller just made me the happiest man alive." is what cought my attention |
| 09:33.59 | Thunder_Child | caught* |
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| 09:39.30 | jaxdahl | what is tuller's addon again? |
| 09:45.14 | Corrodias | tullerbar? |
| 09:48.48 | Industrial | he has more the one |
| 09:48.50 | Industrial | .. |
| 09:50.19 | Corrodias | i can't do this |
| 09:51.43 | Corrodias | i can't write a resume. i need someone else to do it. i don't want to completely omit any work experience but it is so irrelevant to the kind of job i'm looking for that i wouldn't know how to put it in. :P |
| 10:20.59 | Kaso | arg |
| 10:21.11 | Kaso | ive just released ive got no CT_ShieldMod :< |
| 10:25.49 | Thunder_Child | i stoped useing it as it was erroring out on me |
| 10:38.03 | Kaso | i wonder if i should try fix it for 2.0 or wait for cide |
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| 10:47.44 | Maldivia | Morning |
| 10:48.48 | Qshadowp | morning Maldivia |
| 10:48.53 | Qshadowp | i just came on too :) |
| 10:49.01 | Maldivia | :) |
| 10:49.02 | Qshadowp | how goes the websites? |
| 10:49.29 | Maldivia | no idea |
| 10:50.18 | Qshadowp | well wowinterface is in "Extremely low bandwith" mode :P |
| 10:50.26 | Qshadowp | seems to work pretty good :) |
| 10:51.09 | Qshadowp | curse is up, just very slow |
| 10:52.24 | Maldivia | well, I got all my addons, so :) |
| 10:52.43 | Qshadowp | i shall never have all the addons i want :( |
| 10:53.04 | Qshadowp | im one of those people that just downloads every mod that happens to fall in my path lol, i had 330 mods before the patch :) |
| 10:54.33 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 10:54.42 | zenzelezz | your poor RAM |
| 10:55.04 | Qshadowp | i have 2gb ram, might aswell use it :) |
| 10:55.39 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't put it that way |
| 10:55.41 | zenzelezz | but to each his own |
| 10:55.54 | Qshadowp | yea :) |
| 10:56.21 | Maldivia | well, I have more addons now, that before patch - but that's because some of the addons I used, have been split in to several |
| 11:00.07 | Qshadowp | lol this is kinda funny |
| 11:00.13 | Qshadowp | im downloading alphamap from wowinterface |
| 11:00.25 | Qshadowp | 4.5kbps :P |
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| 11:32.12 | YammYgirlcoding | good morning everybody! |
| 11:32.22 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. where this code is looking for the var ? local version = GetAddOnMetadata("GFW_ReagentCost", "Version"); |
| 11:32.33 | YammYgirlcoding | toc ? |
| 11:32.56 | Maldivia | yes |
| 11:33.07 | Maldivia | Metadata are ## fields in the .toc file |
| 11:33.16 | YammYgirlcoding | there is a ## Version: 2.0 |
| 11:33.19 | YammYgirlcoding | in the toc |
| 11:33.28 | YammYgirlcoding | so why the var is not getting filled ? |
| 11:34.09 | Maldivia | try defining a X-Version: 2.0 |
| 11:34.21 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm lets see =) |
| 11:34.53 | YammYgirlcoding | should I change the param in get() for "X-Version" too ? |
| 11:35.02 | Maldivia | and remember to restart wow, to get it to read the new toc file |
| 11:35.10 | Maldivia | dont thing so |
| 11:35.38 | YammYgirlcoding | This X- has to do with new patch ? |
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| 11:39.06 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm reading the code. The guy is initializing the variable after he's using it. Is that a problem, right ? |
| 11:42.16 | Kaso | code? |
| 11:42.41 | YammYgirlcoding | local version = GetAddOnMetadata("GFW_ReagentCost", "Version"); |
| 11:43.06 | YammYgirlcoding | the guy was printing version before initializing it. wrong ? |
| 11:43.47 | YammYgirlcoding | I added this line at the beginning of the method, before the line with the nil value error, and the bug is gone =^^= |
| 11:43.56 | Kaso | Hu? hes not printing anything |
| 11:44.00 | YammYgirlcoding | no., |
| 11:44.09 | YammYgirlcoding | he was printing before declaring the var |
| 11:44.19 | YammYgirlcoding | so I added this line before the var |
| 11:44.30 | YammYgirlcoding | what I don't get it, is why he declare the var 3 times in the same code.. |
| 11:44.47 | Kaso | i wouldnt know having not seen it. |
| 11:45.30 | YammYgirlcoding | its GFW_ReagentCost 's new patch version.. had a little bug =) |
| 11:45.51 | YammYgirlcoding | now it's gone, but maybe the dude forgot something else.. ( running the game to test for a while ) |
| 11:46.49 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm I think it needs Auctioneer to work... doesn't error anymore, but doesn't show reagent's price either |
| 11:47.24 | Kaso | seems like it's half done. |
| 11:47.37 | YammYgirlcoding | what, auct ? |
| 11:47.54 | Kaso | whatever this addon your looking at is |
| 11:48.12 | YammYgirlcoding | its ReagentCost =) |
| 11:48.36 | YammYgirlcoding | I saw some methods using auctioneer's data. maybe it's non optional dependency... |
| 11:48.56 | YammYgirlcoding | anyway. |
| 11:49.07 | YammYgirlcoding | who coded OneBag ? kael ? |
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| 11:52.19 | YammYgirlcoding | ¬¬ |
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| 12:01.01 | Mikma | oh i like that extremely low bandwidth version of WoWI |
| 12:02.26 | AnduinLothar | "Connection has timed out" ? |
| 12:03.14 | Mikma | no, it's just clean and simple |
| 12:03.25 | AnduinLothar | <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Nowhere</TITLE></HEAD><BODY>Connection has timed out.</BODY></HTML> |
| 12:03.40 | YammYgirlcoding | u know what i miss? going to AH when idle, and clicking 'scan' for 10 minutes =) |
| 12:04.59 | Mikma | YammYgirlcoding: you mean auctioneer? |
| 12:06.08 | YammYgirlcoding | ya =) |
| 12:06.31 | Mikma | there's alpha for 2.0, did you know that? :) |
| 12:06.38 | YammYgirlcoding | now i'm idle, go to AH and no button to click =) feel so empty hehe |
| 12:07.08 | YammYgirlcoding | really? working alpha? music to my ears! :D |
| 12:07.20 | Mikma | wait i'll have to dig the url from my log |
| 12:09.14 | Mikma | <Qshadowp> (21:04:24) (Qshadowp) Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 release on Dec 19th | Alpha versions: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl |
| 12:10.32 | Corrodias | 19th? what, a release date for an addon? |
| 12:10.56 | zenzelezz | why not? |
| 12:11.32 | Corrodias | addons are generally not such large projects as to warrant specifying a deadline for yourself. auctioneer might be large enough. |
| 12:11.56 | Mikma | YammYgirlcoding: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1130.zip <- not sure does this work but it's the latest |
| 12:12.04 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware, addon authors just work on them whenever they have time for it, and they release addons when they're ready |
| 12:12.15 | zenzelezz | with the Auctioneer suite not ready at 2.0 release, I see no reason why they shouldn't specify an expected release date for a mod, so people could stop asking "when?" |
| 12:13.09 | Corrodias | eh, you're right, it's just an estimation |
| 12:16.56 | YammYgirlcoding | auctioneer IS pretty large project. If he complete it due to his deadline, I will be very amazed =) |
| 12:17.30 | Corrodias | yarr. |
| 12:18.05 | GremWarsong | has anyone tried that auctioneer version? |
| 12:18.40 | YammYgirlcoding | it might be full of bugs =) but i will test it here |
| 12:19.04 | AnduinLothar | i prefer not to alpha test auc.. i dont like having to back up my saved variables |
| 12:19.21 | GremWarsong | Now that's...different |
| 12:20.12 | YammYgirlcoding | I deleted savedvariables anyway at patch =) nothing to lose |
| 12:20.15 | Corrodias | i'm going to sleep, now. because i'm tired, and i can sleep! |
| 12:20.21 | Corrodias | [awaaaaaaaaaaay!] |
| 12:20.25 | AnduinLothar | I Win! |
| 12:20.32 | AnduinLothar | last paper done |
| 12:20.40 | AnduinLothar | no more finals, yay |
| 12:21.04 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 12:21.08 | GremWarsong | well Yamm, let me know how it goes =) |
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| 12:22.51 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm it said incompatible, for stubby and itemizer |
| 12:23.18 | GremWarsong | Well thats no good |
| 12:24.26 | YammYgirlcoding | they forgot to change tocs =) |
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| 12:27.40 | GremWarsong | they may not have updated them at all |
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| 12:37.50 | smoke_ | does the wow /macro system still accept if conditionals? |
| 12:38.17 | Kaso | as long as your not trying to Target or Cast |
| 12:38.48 | smoke_ | ok soo |
| 12:39.43 | smoke_ | how would i check if an item is inside my bag? |
| 12:40.08 | smoke_ | if <keyword> exists? |
| 12:40.13 | Kaso | you'd have to write a script to scan over the bags |
| 12:40.25 | smoke_ | err |
| 12:40.32 | smoke_ | i just want a macro that uses my mana gems |
| 12:40.38 | smoke_ | the smallest one first |
| 12:40.44 | smoke_ | and then enxt, then the next |
| 12:40.46 | smoke_ | with 1b utton |
| 12:40.49 | Kaso | thats casting, cant do conditionals |
| 12:40.50 | Kaso | buttt |
| 12:40.58 | smoke_ | i can't do it with the default blizzard macro? |
| 12:41.02 | Kaso | umm |
| 12:41.03 | smoke_ | naa |
| 12:41.05 | Kaso | lemme think a sec |
| 12:41.05 | smoke_ | i dont want to cast |
| 12:41.08 | smoke_ | i just want to use the mana gems |
| 12:41.17 | Kaso | Using an item is considered the same as casting |
| 12:41.22 | smoke_ | oh |
| 12:41.31 | smoke_ | so it wont work then? |
| 12:41.38 | Kaso | you can do a castsequance |
| 12:41.44 | smoke_ | whats that? |
| 12:41.57 | smoke_ | could i do a cast sequence where it used all the mana gems |
| 12:42.05 | smoke_ | and obviously it'd go down because it has a 2min cooldown? |
| 12:42.13 | smoke_ | or dont work like that |
| 12:42.33 | Kaso | ./castsequence Gem 1, Gem 2, Gem 3 |
| 12:42.46 | Kaso | would cast Gem1 on first click, then Gem 2 on second click |
| 12:43.04 | smoke_ | that would work ? |
| 12:43.12 | Qshadowp | lol ctra is so laggy in av |
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| 12:43.33 | Kaso | Qshadowp Cide put a version up at 6:15pm PST which should fix |
| 12:43.44 | thr | Hm ok, i know maybe this is not the correct place for this question but anyone got a link to a WORKING copy of ag_UnitFrames? I tried to download the latest [TBC] build, but it's so buggy QQ |
| 12:43.50 | Kaso | smoke_ that should work yes |
| 12:44.01 | JoshBorke | thr: download it from wowi |
| 12:44.25 | thr | Hm ok, the version i got from wowace |
| 12:44.28 | thr | was so buggy QQ |
| 12:44.30 | Kaso | thr |
| 12:44.39 | Qshadowp | cool |
| 12:44.40 | Qshadowp | i'll check that |
| 12:44.46 | Kaso | you dont have to download TBC versions anymore |
| 12:44.52 | thr | Ok, good ;< |
| 12:44.58 | Kaso | the highest version is a 2.0 version |
| 12:45.24 | Kaso | smoke_ Additionally, if you use the ? icon it'll make your macro have the same icon as whatever gem is going to be casted |
| 12:45.57 | Qshadowp | hehe i killed a high warlord with my evil pet army :) |
| 12:46.19 | zenzelezz | pet army? o_O |
| 12:46.56 | Qshadowp | i have that ancient cornerstone grimore which gets a skeleton for 60 secs |
| 12:47.01 | Qshadowp | and i have the mage pet |
| 12:47.06 | Qshadowp | and then i have a minipet too for fun :D |
| 12:47.19 | zenzelezz | not the Barov Peasant Caller? |
| 12:47.27 | Qshadowp | i wanna get it sometime |
| 12:47.33 | Kaso | that shares cooldown with Grimore |
| 12:47.35 | zenzelezz | oh |
| 12:47.36 | zenzelezz | shame |
| 12:47.38 | Qshadowp | its funny i hid ebehind walls and just let the pets do the dps |
| 12:47.48 | zenzelezz | easy to get really, if you're willing to run Scholomance a few times |
| 12:48.00 | Kaso | Qshadowp can you Coldsnap and summona second elemental? |
| 12:48.13 | smoke_ | sweet |
| 12:48.15 | smoke_ | thanks kaso |
| 12:48.16 | smoke_ | that worked |
| 12:48.53 | Kaso | i have this one for water/food |
| 12:48.55 | Qshadowp | Kaso dunno |
| 12:48.55 | Kaso | . |
| 12:48.57 | Kaso | ./castsequence reset=4 Conjured Crystal Water, Conjured Cinnamon Roll |
| 12:49.19 | Kaso | if you dont press to eat within 4 sec of pressing to drink itll reset to water |
| 12:50.00 | smoke_ | ok |
| 12:50.04 | smoke_ | wil it change the icon on the fly? |
| 12:50.12 | Kaso | if you use the ? icon yes |
| 12:51.02 | Kaso | i really love the new macro system |
| 12:51.27 | Kaso | the only thing i wish is that it'd put proper tooltips on the macro like it does with the Icons. |
| 12:52.04 | smoke_ | ok |
| 12:52.08 | smoke_ | looks like it works |
| 12:52.10 | smoke_ | thanks bro |
| 12:52.27 | Kaso | np |
| 12:52.56 | smoke_ | wait |
| 12:52.59 | smoke_ | ok |
| 12:53.00 | smoke_ | check this out |
| 12:53.02 | Kaso | hm? |
| 12:53.05 | smoke_ | it is working somewhat |
| 12:53.08 | smoke_ | im having a problem |
| 12:53.12 | smoke_ | because say if i used it |
| 12:53.18 | smoke_ | and i remake the gem |
| 12:53.26 | smoke_ | it doesnt use the gem i remade |
| 12:53.33 | smoke_ | it uses the next one in sequence, no way around that? |
| 12:53.59 | Kaso | you can reset, but, umm, lemme think of a smart way of doing it |
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| 12:54.50 | Kaso | ok you can do /castsequence reset=shift blahblahblah |
| 12:54.59 | Kaso | then when you Shift-Click the macro it'll reset |
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| 12:55.56 | thr | hm ok |
| 12:56.04 | Mr_Rabies | ooh i didn't know that |
| 12:56.08 | thr | i have a problem with the ag_unitframes i downloaded, maybe I'm just lost. |
| 12:56.23 | thr | When i enable the raid-frames, to create a nice vertical list of all raid members |
| 12:56.28 | thr | the members don't get sorted by class any more. |
| 12:56.33 | thr | what's up with that? |
| 12:56.36 | Mr_Rabies | that'll make my fff/mangle macro more awesome |
| 12:56.56 | Kaso | i didnt either Rabies, just looked it up on Neuro's guide <3 |
| 12:57.11 | Mr_Rabies | can you make a rightclick reset? |
| 12:57.16 | smoke_ | when i put reset=shift |
| 12:57.23 | smoke_ | it just like |
| 12:57.25 | smoke_ | doenst do anyhting |
| 12:57.29 | smoke_ | it removes my button off my hotbar |
| 12:57.32 | smoke_ | actionbar i mean |
| 12:57.40 | YammYgirlcoding | :(( alpha auctioneer still bugged. Itemmizer > string.gfind was renamed to string.gmatch |
| 12:57.43 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah shift's bugged iirc |
| 12:57.57 | Kaso | try using a differernt modiferer |
| 12:58.01 | Kaso | alt, ctrl |
| 12:58.10 | Kaso | Mr_Rabies im not sure, Test it out |
| 12:58.34 | Kaso | it might be reset=RightButton or reset=RightClick |
| 12:58.59 | YammYgirlcoding | good news: scan still works =) |
| 12:59.05 | smoke_ | k |
| 12:59.09 | Kaso | actually |
| 12:59.12 | Mr_Rabies | http://pastey.net/3238 it'll make that fff/mangle macro a bit more easy to reset |
| 12:59.19 | Kaso | * A new command /castsequence reset=N/target/combat/shift/alt/ctrl spell1, spell2, spell3 |
| 12:59.38 | Mr_Rabies | N |
| 12:59.39 | Mr_Rabies | ? |
| 12:59.43 | Kaso | time |
| 12:59.46 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 12:59.48 | Mr_Rabies | duh |
| 13:01.14 | Kaso | a pet peeave of me is using (Rank X) in macros when its not needed! |
| 13:01.29 | smoke_ | hmm |
| 13:01.35 | smoke_ | must be a better way to do it without getting autobar |
| 13:01.36 | zenzelezz | does "target" mean it resets when you switch target? |
| 13:01.41 | Kaso | yes |
| 13:01.58 | Kaso | smoke_ isnt the macro doing what you want? |
| 13:02.07 | Mr_Rabies | Kaso, all the spells with () need rank for some reason |
| 13:02.42 | Mr_Rabies | Mangle (Cat) doesn't work, but Mangle (Cat)(Rank 2) does |
| 13:02.42 | thr | Anyone that knows how to set up ag_UnitFrames so that a "group" orders the members according to class and not just randomly? |
| 13:02.42 | Kaso | Really? |
| 13:02.42 | Mr_Rabies | yep |
| 13:02.42 | Kaso | i did not know that |
| 13:02.53 | Kaso | i retract my irritation then |
| 13:03.02 | Kaso | never played a druid or warlock |
| 13:03.10 | Mr_Rabies | same with Faerie Fire (Feral)(Rank 4) |
| 13:03.11 | Mr_Rabies | it sucks |
| 13:03.30 | Mr_Rabies | wastes so much space in my spammy macros :[ |
| 13:03.33 | Kaso | thr The Group frames are ordered by party index arent they? |
| 13:05.00 | thr | Kaso, well |
| 13:05.14 | thr | maybe they are but in the previous version for 1.13/1.12 wow it was possible |
| 13:05.28 | Kaso | ho |
| 13:05.29 | Kaso | oh |
| 13:05.33 | thr | to order them by class |
| 13:05.39 | thr | and not my group index, or whatever. |
| 13:05.43 | Kaso | cant say i used agUF before 2.0 actually so i dont know |
| 13:06.45 | thr | oh |
| 13:06.46 | thr | i got it |
| 13:06.47 | thr | ;> |
| 13:06.51 | thr | NOT, damnit |
| 13:07.40 | Kaso | Mr_Rabies has Soluken ever commented on that bug/quirk? |
| 13:09.06 | Kaso | Slouken even |
| 13:10.14 | Kaso | speaking of him, its been ages since he came and visited us :< |
| 13:10.20 | Kaso | ~seen slouken |
| 13:10.24 | purl | slouken <n=slouken@devolution.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 21h 34m 54s ago, saying: 'Okay, I'll be quiet and let the folks work.'. |
| 13:10.35 | Kaso | oh, 2days ago? |
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| 13:20.48 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Patch Notes: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=35689#post35689 | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7 | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 |
| 13:21.01 | Kaso | if i recall correctly you can set the paths in Config.ini |
| 13:21.16 | Kaso | oh wait you cant change the file it looks for |
| 13:21.29 | xlvii | kaso, i had a brilliant idea |
| 13:21.33 | xlvii | just need to see if it works |
| 13:21.38 | Kaso | Copy common.mpq, rename it :> |
| 13:21.43 | xlvii | i've copied the common.mpq to my cdrive, and renamed it. |
| 13:21.50 | xlvii | haha, great minds think a like., |
| 13:21.51 | xlvii | ;p |
| 13:21.53 | xlvii | alike* |
| 13:21.59 | xlvii | -, |
| 13:22.40 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 13:22.46 | xlvii | morning josh |
| 13:23.42 | smoke_ | /castsequence [nomodifier:ctrl] reset=ctrl Mana Ruby, Mana Citrine, Mana Jade, Mana Agate |
| 13:23.45 | smoke_ | would that work? |
| 13:24.08 | xlvii | i'm trying to make a final decision, i've mucked around with most classes a lot. gotten most of them to 20, and i'm starting to think it's a waste of time of me paying just for that.. so i come to some of the people i respect the most that play world of warcraft for an answer to this simple question.. what class should i be? a priest? or a mage? |
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| 13:24.38 | Mr_Rabies2|REVOL | depends on your playstyle |
| 13:24.59 | Kaso | hard desicion, priest you do get forced into the healing role, if you want to pewpew all the time roll mage. |
| 13:25.02 | axxo | you like spamming heals |
| 13:25.14 | axxo | or spamming fireball? |
| 13:25.56 | xlvii | to be quite honest, i've played my friends druid who's in an active naxx guild.. |
| 13:26.02 | xlvii | i love healing, for some strange reason. |
| 13:26.08 | Kaso | smoke_ why have the nomodifier thing? |
| 13:26.21 | axxo | roll priest/druid then |
| 13:26.42 | xlvii | any active raiding priests around here? |
| 13:26.43 | Kaso | xlvii healing along with tanking is usually considered more "skillful" however it can also be very stressful |
| 13:26.49 | xlvii | i need a few questions answered. |
| 13:26.55 | Kaso | i raid a priest |
| 13:27.53 | xlvii | okay, i've raid a fair bit on the priest forums.. and i saw a rather large post about priests being 'nerfed' from your point of view, is this correct? if it is, how bad is the nerf? |
| 13:28.23 | xlvii | read* |
| 13:28.47 | Kaso | I dont think we've been nerfed at all, its just a releative nerf, druids and shamans have gotten alot better this patch, we go pissall |
| 13:29.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only healing nerfs are downranking and killing decursive really |
| 13:29.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | er downranking being useless |
| 13:29.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | can some try to tell me wuts wrong whit this code in 2.01 http://wowi.pastey.net/3241 |
| 13:29.34 | Kaso | Downranking isnt as huge an issue as everyone is making it out to be |
| 13:29.41 | Kaso | ive switch from heal 2 to heal 3 |
| 13:29.44 | Kaso | big deal :> |
| 13:30.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just use max ranks now :shrug: |
| 13:30.26 | Kaso | what class are you? |
| 13:30.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid |
| 13:30.34 | Kaso | treeform? |
| 13:30.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell no |
| 13:30.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | mangle :P |
| 13:30.56 | Kaso | oh, kitty kat |
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| 13:31.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it takes a small heal i'll hot them |
| 13:31.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it's a big heal then i'll HT them |
| 13:31.55 | Kaso | doyou raid? |
| 13:32.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | not anymore |
| 13:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | waste of time |
| 13:32.49 | Kaso | i guess thats the big difference, in 5mans or whatever its usually to heal reactionarily, whereas in raids you cant rely on that |
| 13:33.03 | Kaso | on beta realm i do use rank 7 GH alot |
| 13:33.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 13:33.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | in raids the tank will have enough hots on him to not have to worry |
| 13:34.26 | Kaso | well, the whole hot stacking thing i must admit im still getting used to |
| 13:34.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | our small heals are supposed to be rejuvs really |
| 13:35.00 | Kaso | but i mean like on Twins, everyone spamming lowrank heals, keeps the tank topped off, and everyone high on mana |
| 13:35.02 | zenzelezz | I can hardly wait to get used to that... but I have to, since no-one wants to raid without all their addons :-| |
| 13:36.25 | Kaso | on the tunnel after Sartura stackign hots were amazing though, we have one "main aoer" who takes the aoe aggro, he had like 10 hots on him and never went below 90% |
| 13:36.52 | axxo | warlock? :) |
| 13:37.04 | sysrage | pfft |
| 13:37.20 | Kaso | Mage actually, Specced for Arcane Crit, and not specced for -arcane threat, stack up with stam gear |
| 13:37.22 | sysrage | lock aoe sucks :P |
| 13:37.23 | Kaso | works quite well |
| 13:37.33 | sysrage | mages ftw |
| 13:37.44 | Kaso | we use the same thing on the labpacks, one mage "tanking" the aoe pulls |
| 13:37.45 | DCUI2 | ~seen Johanna |
| 13:39.00 | purl | johanna <~Johanna@ppp093.phy.tu-dresden.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 557d 6h 48m 38s ago, saying: 'What can prvent kmail from displaying a drop down menu for the "From" field?'. |
| 13:39.00 | axxo | lock aoe is highest dps, or at least was pre-patch |
| 13:39.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i can do 2400 hp healed in 6 sec or 3000 in 3 sec for the same amount of mana |
| 13:39.23 | Kaso | axxo lock aoe can be interrupted, and cant be used while moving.. |
| 13:39.24 | axxo | you don't stop moving at all in the tunnel? |
| 13:39.24 | Kaso | maybe for 10seconds once or twice |
| 13:39.24 | Kaso | but 99% of the time we're moving |
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| 14:03.36 | Kaso | Man i need to get round to finishing my two, count em, two half finished adddons i intened to have finished for patch day |
| 14:04.21 | Thardal | someone needs to hit curse-gaming with a very big stick for updating to a much more resource intensive website a week before WoW 2.0 |
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| 14:05.18 | Kaso | i looked at the CG website for 20sec couldnt see any links to the addons, gave up and went back to wowi |
| 14:07.04 | [Cu]Werik | That new website uses way less resources than the previous one |
| 14:07.30 | Kalroth | Kaso: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/ |
| 14:07.44 | Thardal | well it still doesnt work 3 days after patch :( |
| 14:08.11 | Thardal | i'm just F5ing the submit page i can probably delete the multiple versions later |
| 14:08.13 | YammYgirlcoding | try goin to authors sites .. |
| 14:08.25 | Kaso | Kalroth: wheres the link to that on the frontpage ? |
| 14:08.32 | Thardal | wowwiki works |
| 14:09.19 | Kalroth | Kaso: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/ -> Portals menu -> World of Warcraft |
| 14:09.41 | sysrage | reason cg doesn't work is cause there's a million people "F5ing the submit pages" |
| 14:09.47 | Kalroth | Kaso: Then Files menu -> Addons |
| 14:09.49 | [Cu]Werik | kinda:) |
| 14:09.54 | Kaso | i see now |
| 14:10.11 | Kaso | i wish the nice search box on the frontpage wast still there :< |
| 14:10.40 | Kalroth | Well they're trying to make it a site for all mmorpgs, so I guess they have to hide their main site in the crowd :p |
| 14:10.51 | Josh_Borke | Morning Cairenn |
| 14:11.45 | Cairenn | morning guys :) |
| 14:11.51 | [Cu]Werik | Morning |
| 14:11.57 | YammYgirlcoding | morning darling! :D |
| 14:12.35 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 14:12.46 | Qshadowp | whats the replacement for /script StopSpellCasting() ? |
| 14:12.53 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:13.00 | Qshadowp | thanks :) |
| 14:13.01 | Kaso | how do you type so fast! |
| 14:13.05 | Josh_Borke | one handed- |
| 14:13.19 | Kalroth | :D |
| 14:13.21 | Josh_Borke | just kidding :-D |
| 14:13.23 | Kaso | hah |
| 14:13.33 | Qshadowp | and i think i found a bug :D |
| 14:13.40 | Qshadowp | my presence of mind is not cooling down :O |
| 14:13.46 | Qshadowp | in my spell book or my action bar lol |
| 14:13.50 | Qshadowp | i used it once and its just stuck :D |
| 14:13.52 | Josh_Borke | disable all addons |
| 14:14.57 | Saeris | Is http://wowi.pastey.net/3246 even remotely close to what I need to do to make the MultiBarBottomLeft buttons update based on current action bar page? |
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| 14:25.42 | xlvii | does anyone know who got the soulkeeper drop from kel'thuzad in nihilum? what class was she? what was her name? |
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| 14:33.06 | Kaso | i found a bug on live servers :gasp: a real live proper bug |
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| 14:33.17 | Maldivia | which ? |
| 14:33.43 | Kaso | I you click pet growl while targgeting a pvp tagged friendly NPC you'll get tagged |
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| 14:35.56 | Kaso | or any pet-attack for that matter |
| 14:36.05 | Kaso | also pvp tagged players |
| 14:38.40 | Kaso | Also casting Revive pet while you rpet is out will cause it to disapear |
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| 14:51.13 | Nom- | anyone found a good way to farm honor (besides just running AV) ? |
| 14:52.51 | Kaso | get 30 friends who are willing to stand as you kill them on rotation for hours on end |
| 14:53.18 | Josh_Borke | Kill people |
| 14:53.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:53.28 | sysrage | isn't there something in place so you can't do that kaso? |
| 14:53.48 | Josh_Borke | there |
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| 14:54.27 | Kaso | honor decays as you kill people, but its fairly low |
| 14:54.31 | Kaso | 10% per kill |
| 14:54.51 | Kaso | so if you get enough and roate them, you can keep >50% honor a kill :> |
| 14:57.02 | axxo | except the 30 need to ress |
| 14:57.16 | Kaso | true |
| 14:57.35 | Kaso | that shouldnt be a problem actually |
| 14:57.47 | Kaso | group into fives |
| 14:58.06 | Kaso | kill the first group one at a time |
| 14:58.33 | Kaso | by the time you kill the 5th first has ressed, do that 3 times, then switch to next group |
| 14:58.54 | Kaso | give group's ress tiimer time to cooldown |
| 15:05.52 | Saeris | So does anyone know how to change an existing set of action buttons into a paged layout? From my understanding of the system, it seems possible, but http://wowi.pastey.net/3246 doesn't work. It just makes the buttons permanently hidden. |
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| 15:07.03 | Saeris | I can't seem to figure out what's going wrong. |
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| 15:25.25 | Kaso | did we get any responce to our request for [canfly] in macro conditionals? |
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| 15:34.54 | seebs | I am back, with more stupid newbie questions. I have made an edit box. The text-cursor focus stays in my edit box. How do I make it so hitting escape defocuses my edit box? |
| 15:36.23 | Mery | editbox:SetScript("OnEscapePressed", function(this) this:ClearFocus(); end); |
| 15:37.10 | Mery | well or something like that :) |
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| 15:42.03 | seebs | Interesting! That works, but then focus immediately jumps to the first edit box in my group. There must be something causing it to ask for focus. |
| 15:43.08 | Mery | well do you show it? |
| 15:43.38 | seebs | I needed autoFocus="false" in my <EditBox>. |
| 15:43.42 | Mery | :Show() might cause a autofocus if :SetAutoFocus(true) is set |
| 15:43.47 | seebs | Now they don't grab focus all the time. |
| 15:44.23 | seebs | Wow, at this rate, by lunchtime I'll have enough of the UI widgets in place to write some of my actual logic! |
| 15:44.33 | Mery | :) |
| 15:44.45 | Mery | coding gui's is such a pain |
| 15:45.04 | seebs | This is a particularly obnoxious GUI environment, in that you can never just get the default and have it look like anything. |
| 15:45.12 | seebs | But I'm getting there! |
| 15:45.20 | xlvii | any swedish people around? |
| 15:45.41 | xlvii | if you can translate something for me, please send me a private message.. |
| 15:47.02 | Hexarobi | bork bork bork |
| 15:47.31 | xlvii | any swedish people around? i need a translation for song lyrics. |
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| 15:49.22 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 15:50.56 | Cide | I'm swedish |
| 15:51.03 | Industrial | bork bork bork! |
| 15:51.06 | Industrial | aw too late |
| 15:51.07 | Industrial | :P |
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| 16:15.09 | YammYgirlcoding | is Cide around? |
| 16:15.30 | Cide | I'm just about to go afk |
| 16:15.38 | YammYgirlcoding | dont gooooo hehe |
| 16:16.12 | YammYgirlcoding | quicky, what is the method ct have to pass an item from bag to mailbox , with alt, or right click ( duno exactly ) ? |
| 16:16.38 | Cide | hooking _OnModifiedClick on the container buttons |
| 16:16.41 | Cide | check out the code :) |
| 16:16.44 | Cide | brb, dinner |
| 16:16.50 | YammYgirlcoding | okey darling |
| 16:16.55 | Josh_Borke | but it's lunch time! |
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| 16:23.50 | Zver1992 | Hello |
| 16:23.54 | Zver1992 | Can smbd help me? Can i cast spells from my addon? :) |
| 16:25.43 | Zver1992 | I read, that i must use Secure Templ |
| 16:26.22 | Zver1992 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.02 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 16:28.10 | Nom- | Nothing works as well as PerfectRaid |
| 16:28.12 | Nom- | It was, well, perfect |
| 16:29.12 | Zver1992 | Hm. Could smbd know names of addons, who use CastSpell any way (SecureActionButtonTemplate too) in 2.0? |
| 16:30.26 | Zver1992 | Hm. And 1 moment. Can i use from addon "/cast". If yes, what? |
| 16:31.07 | Nom- | I don't know that you can... |
| 16:31.15 | Zver1992 | :) |
| 16:31.24 | Nom- | The point of these recent changes was to stop you from making any kind of decisions as to what you're casting |
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| 16:31.38 | Nom- | To stop them being made programatically at least |
| 16:32.17 | Zver1992 | Hm. I want to click button in keyboard -> Casting Spell. |
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| 16:32.45 | Nom- | binding? |
| 16:32.47 | Zver1992 | I can use macros, but i want addon. Could i do this? |
| 16:32.56 | sylvanaar | it really doesnt level the playing field - people can barely install the addons, i dont know how thell even learn the macro sytax |
| 16:33.03 | Nom- | What exactly do you want to setup a hotkey for? |
| 16:33.18 | Zver1992 | Ye. I want to fix RangeHelp addon. But i dont want rewrite this systen |
| 16:33.22 | Zver1992 | *system |
| 16:33.37 | Nom- | sylvanaar: I suspect the main one they wanted to nerf was Decursive |
| 16:34.01 | Josh_Borke | I think there are enough smart people that are posting on the forums to help people get macros they want |
| 16:34.27 | Zver1992 | I want to fix addon, i dont want macros :) |
| 16:34.31 | Nom- | A lot of stuff you used to require addons for can be done in the macros now |
| 16:34.41 | Nom- | What did RangeHelp do, Zver1992 ? |
| 16:35.11 | sylvanaar | Josh_Borke: thats basically in line with what i am saying |
| 16:35.30 | Josh_Borke | which i think is better than people using addons |
| 16:35.45 | Josh_Borke | you have to read a macro at least once to copy/paste it. an addon you just download |
| 16:35.46 | Zver1992 | RangeHelp in other zones (range attack, melee) use for 1 keyboard button other actions |
| 16:36.05 | Zver1992 | For example: in range attack button "1" - Shoot, but in Melee "1" - attack |
| 16:36.32 | Nom- | ok just reading it yeah |
| 16:36.46 | Nom- | notification of range is easy |
| 16:37.06 | Nom- | in fact, dhud shows it i believe |
| 16:37.24 | Nom- | auto-switching of hotbar pages...might be possible...not sure about that one |
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| 16:37.52 | Zver1992 | Hm. I want to rewrite CastSpell code, in RangeHelp use only "CastSpell". Now it doesnt work |
| 16:37.55 | Nom- | hmm the auto-cast keys might be tricky |
| 16:38.18 | Nom- | you couldn't do the auto-cast keys from in an addon from what i'm reading here |
| 16:38.20 | Zver1992 | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( '/cast ' .. spellName .. '(' .. spellRank .. ')' ); - didnt work too :) |
| 16:38.30 | Nom- | You migth be able to macro it, but I don't know the macro language yet |
| 16:38.36 | sylvanaar | Nom-: what? |
| 16:38.51 | Zver1992 | I dont use CastSpell any way in Addons? |
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| 16:39.33 | sylvanaar | auto self cast is easy to implement as long as you dont use SHIFT (or is it ALT), |
| 16:39.46 | Nom- | sylvanaar: No, it's auto-cast keys |
| 16:40.02 | Nom- | like if is melee, cast this, if range is ranged, cast that |
| 16:40.11 | sylvanaar | keybinds, which have no action button? |
| 16:40.15 | Zver1992 | Ok. Could give me example with Spell's casting ? |
| 16:40.25 | Nom- | You can't cast a spell from an addon in combat |
| 16:40.45 | Zver1992 | Ok. I want to hear only this :) |
| 16:40.50 | Nom- | You either bind it to a key, or bind it to a frame click action |
| 16:40.51 | sylvanaar | yes, but you can use a secure button |
| 16:40.57 | sylvanaar | but you have to press it |
| 16:41.05 | Nom- | yea |
| 16:41.21 | Zver1992 | Hm.. Give me plz example with secure button |
| 16:42.03 | Nom- | I don't believe you can have any real logic on that secure button tho |
| 16:42.09 | Nom- | It's just like click this to cast spell |
| 16:42.29 | Zver1992 | Ok. You right :( |
| 16:43.02 | Zver1992 | RangeHelp binds dont work in WoW 2.0. Thank you for answers |
| 16:43.14 | Zver1992 | And thank you for my bad English :) |
| 16:43.17 | sylvanaar | your logic is limited to the attibutes blizzard defines |
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| 16:43.50 | cogwheel | Zver1992: Check out http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50956831&sid=1 for examples on secure buttons and state headers |
| 16:44.30 | Zver1992 | Hm. And 1 question. Why blizzard do this? Lock CastSpell, change lua 5.0 to lua 5.1? |
| 16:44.46 | cogwheel | 5.0->5.1 was for performance reasons |
| 16:44.58 | cogwheel | The lockdown was to prevent addons like decursive |
| 16:46.13 | cogwheel | See http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&sid=1 |
| 16:46.39 | Nom- | Indeed. |
| 16:46.43 | Nom- | Decursive was awesome |
| 16:46.59 | Nom- | Until I get PerfectRaid back, my decursing just won't be the same :( |
| 16:47.21 | cogwheel | It was also terminally ill... they've said from the beginning they didn't like it and would get rid of it when they figured out how without disabling all the other kinds of addons they don't mind... |
| 16:47.42 | bnovc | Nom-: that was the type of thing iw as looking for in the screenshot you posted yesterday |
| 16:47.45 | neomantra | the no-decursive philosophy in that post makes sense though |
| 16:47.56 | bnovc | i also tried out antogonist but i don't think that was what i was after - iwould like to see how long my cheap shot and polymorph last |
| 16:48.14 | sylvanaar | cogwheel: why are you such an advocate for them? just curious |
| 16:48.29 | Zver1992 | Blizzard said: People, play by hands. Auto is bad. |
| 16:48.31 | Zver1992 | :( |
| 16:49.03 | cogwheel | 'cause people act so surprised when it happened even though they've made their opinion clear on a number of occasions... |
| 16:49.53 | cogwheel | Knowing that they don't like things like that, I've played all my characters without automation... The only macro I used on my warrior was a charge/intercept/stance macro that is still doable in the current system |
| 16:50.13 | Zver1992 | bad. Very bad. Many of peoples like many addons.. And he... I dont know this word.. learn by heart many addons |
| 16:50.32 | bnovc | Zver1992: become dependent on you mean? |
| 16:51.10 | sylvanaar | cogwheel: do you actually believe that this new system they created whith its complex protection model is really an improvement? Or do stipid people just annoy you? |
| 16:51.12 | neomantra | is there an "official" place to discuss ctmod (via forums)? can i not find it because ctmod.net is in low-bandwidth mode? |
| 16:51.54 | sylvanaar | cogwheel: i can relate to the latter if thats the case |
| 16:51.58 | Zver1992 | I want to say that people programming many addons and now blizzard blocked him for automatic game process. Its my opinion |
| 16:52.03 | cogwheel | sylvanaar: a little of both... While it has a somewhat impressive learning curve, the new state system actually simplifies a lot of aspects of mod design (at least in the case of action bars & unit frames) |
| 16:52.26 | cogwheel | It's also impressive in the sense of what they were able to do even given the constraints... |
| 16:52.38 | bnovc | why did blizzard decide to stop saying "<name> died # times, honor #" when you kill someone? |
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| 16:52.49 | cogwheel | (but the latter definitely plays a major role in my attitude on the forums :P ) |
| 16:53.34 | Saeris | One hell of a learning curve, that's for sure. I don't think they needed to place quite as many limits as they did, as there were other ways to remove automation, but this system does work well. |
| 16:54.41 | Nom- | bnovc: because it's tracked internally now? |
| 16:54.53 | cogwheel | I think, for someone brand new to modding, the new system will not be significantly more challenging to learn than the old way. Especially when you consider that my first incarnation of cogsbar was only 22 lines of code and provided a fully functional stance-changing grid of 24 buttons... |
| 16:55.01 | bnovc | Nom-: but now there is no way to tell how much honor you received? |
| 16:55.06 | Nom- | FuBar_HonorFu accurately reports on honor gains now |
| 16:55.22 | bnovc | just seemed odd they removed the message |
| 16:55.37 | Nom- | you just can't see it, it's actually stored and is apparenly meant to be visible in the pvp tab of the character sheet |
| 16:56.04 | bnovc | is it calculated live now instead of on tuesdays? |
| 16:56.23 | Nom- | i know they convert honor to tokens at least once per day |
| 16:56.45 | sylvanaar | The thing about the change they made is really that they didnt design it - they just added things reactively. so it isnt cohesive. |
| 16:56.54 | m|a|x | are there any other wow channels on freenode? |
| 16:57.16 | bnovc | do you know if there is a working version of something that will work like gatherer did that doesnt seem to work anymore or a mod that will show me a bar/time for my polymorph, stuns, etc. |
| 16:57.19 | Nom- | sylvanaar: That's your opinion |
| 16:57.29 | Nom- | They probably spent weeks designing those changes |
| 16:57.40 | Saeris | At least. |
| 16:57.42 | cogwheel | sylvanaar: I wouldn't be too certain about that... The changes have been known since before open beta and I know Iriel played no small part in the design and implementation of state headers before beta began |
| 16:57.46 | Nom- | significant changes to code like that don't happen overnight |
| 16:57.46 | Cide | bnovc: CT_MapMod should work as a simplified version of what Gatherer does |
| 16:58.02 | bnovc | Cide: i was kind of hoping to have it on my minimap like i used to |
| 16:58.29 | sylvanaar | cogwheel: yeah, i was watching them evolve on the forum. |
| 16:58.32 | Cide | I don't know of any other addons that does that |
| 16:58.37 | Cide | other than gatherer |
| 16:58.50 | bnovc | know of any that would do the stuns? |
| 16:58.59 | Cide | no idea, I'm a priest |
| 16:59.06 | sylvanaar | but yeah, i suppose its an opinion |
| 16:59.07 | cogwheel | I think the macro options fits more with that situation... |
| 16:59.16 | bnovc | Cide: oh :( |
| 16:59.31 | cogwheel | But they were only put in to give macros back some of the functionality that only state headers were capable of originally... |
| 16:59.54 | sylvanaar | cogwheel: which is essentially what my point was |
| 17:00.04 | Saeris | Could anyone take a look at http://wowi.pastey.net/3252 and tell me why it doesn't work? Specifically, it's supposed to make the MultiBarBottomLeft buttons change based on current action bar page, and they do, but they're always an exact copy of the main action bar buttons instead of having their own slots. |
| 17:00.05 | End | macros are actually more capable than state headers are now |
| 17:00.26 | End | (for some things) |
| 17:00.28 | Elkano | anyone of you guys good in dealing with frameStratas, frameLevels and layers? |
| 17:01.26 | Xuerian | Strata/Layers deal with things on the same Level. Levels are implied with parentage unless set manually :P |
| 17:01.47 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/How_UI_Is_Rendered is about the extent of my knowledge |
| 17:02.16 | cogwheel | Oh, and sylvanaar, of course i'm a bit biased about the macro system... ;) |
| 17:02.57 | cogwheel | (though I must say they did take it farther than I originally anticipated) |
| 17:02.59 | Josh_Borke | Elkano: Xuerian pretty much hit the nail on the head |
| 17:03.06 | sylvanaar | cogwheel: ah ha, that slipped my mind for a sec |
| 17:04.38 | Cide | actually, framestrata takes precedence over framelevel as far as I know |
| 17:04.56 | Josh_Borke | i don't think so Cide |
| 17:05.24 | Cide | I'm right |
| 17:05.49 | Josh_Borke | wait, i'm thinking layers |
| 17:05.50 | Cide | setting a button to frame level 1000 did not make it show over the raid tab |
| 17:06.44 | Xuerian | Yes, you're right. Strata -> Level -> Layer. |
| 17:07.32 | sylvanaar | probably have to to with positioning of textures <-> frames, i forgot how it works |
| 17:07.42 | sylvanaar | oops, you figured it out |
| 17:08.54 | sylvanaar | thats a containment sequence? |
| 17:09.18 | Nom- | Saeris: If I had to take a guess, i'd say that you're setting the action-P number incorrecetly |
| 17:09.25 | Nom- | But i'm not sure... :) |
| 17:09.41 | Josh_Borke | Cide: ctraid-tracker has been updated for 2.0, yes? |
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| 17:09.54 | Kalroth | I found an unofficial update, Josh |
| 17:10.02 | Cide | Josh_Borke: nope |
| 17:10.08 | Josh_Borke | blast |
| 17:10.13 | Cide | I'm aware that there are unofficial updates, yes |
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| 17:10.47 | Cide | (which I haven't explicitly allowed, but oh well) |
| 17:10.51 | Saeris | Nom: Incorrectly how? |
| 17:11.18 | Kalroth | Cide: Well 2.0 isn't going to be out for a while, right? |
| 17:11.29 | Cide | Kalroth: right |
| 17:11.38 | Cide | but that's irrelevant really :) |
| 17:11.45 | Nom- | maybe ur setting it to 1,2 instead of 3,4 ? |
| 17:12.16 | Kalroth | Cide: Not really, it's hard to prevent people from fixing/modifying stuff when the code is available :) |
| 17:12.37 | Cide | Kalroth: it's called laws |
| 17:13.01 | Saeris | Nom: But it's supposed to be 1,2, to represent the current action bar page. |
| 17:13.05 | Cide | and no, I haven't given my permission to modify the code |
| 17:13.25 | Kalroth | Mmm that may be, but I can't think of any lawyer that'll pick up that case :) |
| 17:13.40 | cogwheel | Kalroth: it's a simple matter of copyright |
| 17:13.55 | cogwheel | it doesn't matter whether it's distributed as source |
| 17:14.16 | sylvanaar | no money involved = no lawyers |
| 17:14.19 | Cide | and it doesn't matter if someone would pick up the case |
| 17:14.28 | Kalroth | Oh sure, I'm well aware of the law, I'm just stating that it's easy for people to modify/fix it and that trying to prevent people from doing so will get you nowhere :) |
| 17:14.42 | Cide | I'm positive that I could get all the UI sites to drop the mods |
| 17:14.54 | Cide | Kalroth: which is why I haven't done it. I'm just saying. |
| 17:15.02 | Kalroth | Then we agree :) |
| 17:15.04 | cogwheel | you can get a restraining order and sue for punitive damages if they continue |
| 17:15.10 | Kalroth | cogwheel: Right :p |
| 17:15.54 | Parabola_ | that'd be bad for the community |
| 17:15.56 | Kalroth | cogwheel: Do you have an addon? I'll modify/change it without your permissions and host it, then you can go nuts with whatever you think is possible. :) |
| 17:16.21 | Kalroth | copyright only applies to those with the cash to back it up, the rest of us are fscked |
| 17:16.24 | Parabola_ | no one modified the code with malicious intent, it was to fill a need which would have gone unfilled |
| 17:16.31 | Elkano | So if everything looks fine, how comes a SetParent breakes layout? :( |
| 17:16.49 | cogwheel | Now, if I say yes and give you its information, you might be able to successfully defend because I am implicitly giving you permission... |
| 17:16.54 | Nom- | Unlicenced code isn't covered for the mostpart |
| 17:17.23 | Kalroth | cogwheel: Then just say no :) |
| 17:17.24 | Cide | Parabola_: which is also irrelevant |
| 17:17.31 | Nom- | If you don't state in the source or with a file in the distribution, then a strong case can be made that it's community code |
| 17:17.55 | cogwheel | Parabola_: it doesn't matter. Nom-: unlicensed code is assumed to be under no license... meaning you do NOT have the right to modify/distribute |
| 17:18.10 | Nom- | lol |
| 17:18.45 | Kalroth | Personally I'd be happy that others updated/fixed my stuff if I was busy elsewhere, but that may just be me :) |
| 17:18.45 | Nom- | You're a little confused :P |
| 17:18.53 | sylvanaar | Kalroth: i was gonna say - they are doing you a favor in some respect |
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| 17:18.59 | Cide | please note that this is hypothetically speaking, I don't think I would enforce it |
| 17:19.09 | Nom- | If I distribute a 50 line application with no licence or author information in it, then there's nothing to say it's mine |
| 17:19.27 | cogwheel | Nom-: nope. If you release a work, you have copyright unless you specifically waive it (in which case it goes to the public domain) or you license it (in which case you still hold copyright, but you are allowing other people to copy it) |
| 17:19.29 | bnovc | Nom-: if you could prove that you were the author, then no one is legally allowed to use or edit it |
| 17:19.29 | Nom- | which means there's nothing to say you couldn't use it |
| 17:19.40 | Cide | Nom-: I'm pretty sure I could prove that I coded CTRA to just about anyone |
| 17:19.47 | Parabola_ | I'd hope you wouldn't, reading your code helped me to understand alot about ui stuff :x |
| 17:19.53 | Cide | despite the fact that I haven't included any author details |
| 17:19.54 | cogwheel | Nom-: that's different... that's a matter of proving authorship... it dosn't mean you don't HAVE the copyright, it just means you can't PROVE you do. |
| 17:20.15 | bnovc | Cide: how do you move the mini map icon for that thing |
| 17:20.26 | Cide | bnovc: additional or misc options, I forgot |
| 17:20.28 | Nom- | That's what it will come down to tho in any court case |
| 17:20.43 | Cide | Nom-: which is easy when it's something bigger than a 50 line application usually |
| 17:21.02 | cogwheel | Nom-: yep. But in a court case, you only need a preponderance of evidence, something that witnesses can easily provide |
| 17:21.35 | Nom- | heh |
| 17:21.44 | Nom- | code isn't like writing |
| 17:21.59 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 17:22.00 | bnovc | if anyone goes to court over a WoW LUA script there is a bigger problem |
| 17:22.01 | Nom- | you can't read two pieces of code and identify who wrote each piece |
| 17:22.02 | cogwheel | yes it is... |
| 17:22.17 | cogwheel | That's the same with writing :\ |
| 17:22.52 | bnovc | where can i get the library needed for bugsack? |
| 17:22.52 | Nom- | i mean hell |
| 17:22.52 | cogwheel | my code will "look" different than yours... my writing will "look" different than yours... |
| 17:22.53 | Nom- | i could show you two 1000 line programs and you wouldn't be able to tell that i wrote ogh |
| 17:22.53 | Nom- | both |
| 17:22.54 | cogwheel | No way to prove whose is whose... |
| 17:23.08 | cogwheel | without external factors (such as file date stamps, etc) |
| 17:23.11 | Cide | Nom-: the point being, in a court, the author usually wants to prove that an addon is his or hers |
| 17:23.23 | Cide | not that the court wants to prove WHICH addon is his or hers |
| 17:23.28 | Nom- | which is, damn near impossible |
| 17:23.32 | Cide | not really |
| 17:23.33 | Kalroth | hooray, I got my WDB cache back :D |
| 17:23.38 | Cide | like I said, I could prove to anyone that I wrote ctra |
| 17:23.40 | bnovc | KungFu.lua from wowinterface.com has a parse error |
| 17:23.49 | bnovc | and ToFua has another error |
| 17:24.08 | cogwheel | Nom-: suffice it to say, this is exactly why most software includes copyright notices... They serve as the evidence to support the original author. |
| 17:24.09 | Nom- | Cide: and i bet i could, with no more than a few hours, change it enough so that you couldn't prove it |
| 17:24.18 | Nom- | less even |
| 17:24.30 | Cide | haha, never |
| 17:24.39 | Kalroth | Just rename the files to CRTA! |
| 17:25.01 | Cide | you'd either break it or keep everything the same but with two more features |
| 17:25.22 | Nom- | well, that would be the point, if i wanted to claim it as my own :P |
| 17:25.35 | Cide | then you have to prove that you wrote it |
| 17:25.40 | Cide | which you wouldn't be able to |
| 17:25.40 | Nom- | Not that i want to lol |
| 17:25.57 | Nom- | and you wouldn't be able to prove that you wrote it |
| 17:26.00 | Nom- | and we're full circle |
| 17:26.08 | Cide | of course I would |
| 17:26.13 | sylvanaar | probably both, everything broken in some ares, including the 2 new features |
| 17:26.27 | Nom- | it's a moot point anyway |
| 17:26.28 | Cide | I know what 80%+ of all functions do by *name* |
| 17:26.38 | Nom- | it's not like anyone would waste the money to go to court |
| 17:26.50 | Cide | you're falling back to irrelevant arguments |
| 17:27.06 | cogwheel | Kalroth: btw: I have written a couple addons... MonoLua, BuyEmAll, BuyDropper (which isn't updated for 2.0), & CogsBar (plus CastOnSelf which is obsolete and BatteryMinder which is was basically just a learning addon and I've abandoned) |
| 17:27.08 | Nom- | heh that's hardly a point Cide |
| 17:27.09 | bnovc | i really liked the old CT more |
| 17:27.17 | Cide | bnovc: what changed? |
| 17:27.22 | Nom- | iv've got a near photographic memory when it comes to code |
| 17:27.23 | Kalroth | cogwheel: No fun, it needs to be a cool addon :( |
| 17:27.29 | Elkano | so anyone understanding that layer/framestrata/framelevel stuff mind giving this a try and tell me, why a simple setparent messes things up? http://www.wowace.com/files/ElkBuffBars/ |
| 17:27.34 | sylvanaar | me- i actually forgt the topic |
| 17:27.34 | cogwheel | BuyEmAll's cool :P |
| 17:27.46 | Cide | Nom-: that wouldn't help |
| 17:27.48 | Kalroth | Cide: I bet you don't know what CT_RA_RGBToHex() does! |
| 17:27.54 | cogwheel | It's cool enough that people sent me localizations for all locales except spain ;) |
| 17:27.54 | Nom- | if i could be bothered, i could probably learn the function of that same 80% in a couple of days |
| 17:28.05 | Kalroth | cogwheel: What does it do? :) |
| 17:28.07 | Cide | it takes 3 parameters and converts it from rgb to hex using string.format ;) |
| 17:28.17 | bnovc | Cide: the menu options, bars arent finished (obviously), and i used to be able to click the icon to move things around |
| 17:28.48 | Cide | bnovc: what's wrong with the menu options? |
| 17:28.59 | Cide | there's not much that can be moved around anyway |
| 17:29.03 | Nom- | let me put it this way |
| 17:29.14 | cogwheel | Kalroth: it improves the shift-click interface at vendors, allowing you to buy multiple stacks, showing you how much the purchase will cost you, and allowwing you to shfit-click items that come in preset stacks (like water & food) |
| 17:29.14 | Cide | and we're looking into adding back the "unlock all" |
| 17:29.18 | Nom- | I can recall the code structure and major methods of some code i wrote 4 years ago |
| 17:29.27 | Kalroth | cogwheel: Oooh, that's pretty nifty |
| 17:29.41 | Nom- | by the same token |
| 17:29.49 | Cide | Nom-: but unless you can follow the execution path in your head, I can still prove things 15 times better than you ever could |
| 17:30.02 | Nom- | I know the major methods and code structure of some code i did work on 2 years ago |
| 17:30.15 | Nom- | which i didn't write |
| 17:30.27 | Nom- | and that's ... at last count about 14000 lines of code |
| 17:30.34 | Cide | ctra is 24k |
| 17:30.50 | Nom- | yea, but that was 2 years ago |
| 17:31.12 | Nom- | and i work on systems with millions of lines now |
| 17:31.18 | Kalroth | I can look at code I did 4 years ago and go "what the fuck was I thinking?" |
| 17:31.34 | Nom- | i mean heck the billing system i work on at the moment is a 250mb svn checkout |
| 17:31.39 | Nom- | that's without the binary data such as images |
| 17:31.57 | Cide | Nom-: so you're saying that the author of a program wouldn't be able to prove that it's his or her work, just because someone has memorized function names? |
| 17:32.05 | Cide | there's a lot more to it than that, which I'm sure you know |
| 17:32.24 | Nom- | no i'm just saying that with the right person on the other side of the litigation table |
| 17:32.30 | Nom- | you'd have a very hard time proving it |
| 17:32.57 | Cide | if someone spent two years looking through my code, sure |
| 17:33.13 | Cide | but that could be backed up by witnesses or something to that extent, like cogwheel mentioned |
| 17:33.15 | Nom- | anyway back on point |
| 17:33.20 | Nom- | I want PerfectRaid, damnit LD |
| 17:33.21 | Nom- | :D |
| 17:33.27 | Cide | I'm going afk |
| 17:33.27 | cogwheel | :) |
| 17:33.29 | cogwheel | don't we all |
| 17:33.36 | Cide | was an interesting discussion though, thanks Nom- :) |
| 17:33.48 | Kalroth | oRA2 + sRaidFrames is pretty nifty though, Nom- |
| 17:34.14 | Nom- | got a screeny of sRaidFrames? |
| 17:34.32 | Nom- | I know i've already tried oRA2, which was crap |
| 17:34.51 | Kalroth | oRA2 is only for MT and general raid stuff, no raid frames in it |
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| 17:35.03 | Kalroth | and nope, no screenshot atm |
| 17:35.10 | malreth | ok, guys... |
| 17:35.12 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54857067&pageNo=1&sid=1#2 |
| 17:35.21 | malreth | would it be wrong for me to reply to Tauruse with: |
| 17:35.34 | Saeris | Is it even possible to make MultiBarBottomLeft paged? I just can't seem to figure it out. |
| 17:35.36 | Kalroth | malreth: Yes it would! |
| 17:35.47 | malreth | "You know, Jesus took away the use of your hands because you play with yourself too much." |
| 17:35.53 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 17:35.55 | malreth | i mean... |
| 17:35.59 | malreth | would that be going too far? |
| 17:36.09 | Grine | malreth: I didn't read the link but I assume it would be wrong ;) |
| 17:36.10 | malreth | would I have... "crossed that line"? |
| 17:36.28 | Xuerian | malreth: Merely knowing you, it'd be across that line :p |
| 17:36.42 | Kalroth | lol |
| 17:36.47 | Kalroth | "Ventrilo is ruining WoW!!!" |
| 17:36.51 | malreth | is poking fun of his handicap and making a reference to religion and masturbation all in one line be... "too much?" |
| 17:37.26 | malreth | thanks, y'all... |
| 17:37.41 | cogwheel | wow... i never noticed Tauruse had "- wowcmfeedback@blizzard.com for feedback on Community Team performance." in his sig... |
| 17:37.47 | malreth | I get so confused on these 'morality' and 'ethical' decisions... |
| 17:38.16 | malreth | cogwheel: it's because he routinely insults CMs directly and gets suspensions for it |
| 17:38.34 | bnovc | does anyone know of a mod that is updated that will tell me how long my stuns and polymorph last |
| 17:38.38 | malreth | i mean, he's not even sly with it... he just outright insults them to get suspended |
| 17:39.23 | Elkano | bnovc, chronometer should |
| 17:39.38 | bnovc | ok ill try that, thanks |
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| 17:40.25 | Nom- | http://www.frostbolt.com/screenshots/screenshots/110306-01.jpg <-- that's sRaidFrames right? |
| 17:40.44 | Kalroth | Looks like it, yeah, but it's not the layout I run |
| 17:41.01 | Kalroth | grouped by classes, much smaller and different bars |
| 17:41.17 | Nom- | if it has a perfectraid style layout then it might be ok |
| 17:41.36 | Kalroth | I don't know perfect raid :) |
| 17:41.44 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/WoWScrnShot_112506_210336.jpg <-- that's the layout i'm going for |
| 17:41.49 | Nom- | for raid frames |
| 17:41.58 | Kalroth | ick |
| 17:42.00 | Kalroth | what is that? |
| 17:42.07 | Nom- | That's perfectraid |
| 17:42.14 | Kalroth | no, that's imperfect raid! |
| 17:42.16 | cogwheel | Kalroth: you say "ick" but you have no idea how much more functional PR is |
| 17:42.31 | cogwheel | Having all the health bars stacked like that is immensly clearer |
| 17:42.34 | Kalroth | Obviously not since I haven't tried it ;) |
| 17:42.48 | Nom- | you can't see because everyone is buffed |
| 17:42.52 | Kalroth | But playing whack'a'mole can't be handy on those bars |
| 17:42.54 | cogwheel | After a week or so of using it, anything else seems like garbage |
| 17:43.01 | Nom- | but if someone was missing an int, it would have Int in blue next to it |
| 17:43.19 | Nom- | for buffing and decursing there's nothing better |
| 17:43.21 | cogwheel | it's not that bad... when you hover over the frames a border appears around them |
| 17:43.33 | cogwheel | so you know exactly who you're going to click |
| 17:43.39 | sysrage | how are people decursing now? |
| 17:43.45 | sysrage | is there a good way yet? |
| 17:43.50 | Kalroth | We had a priest healing himself on Patchwerk yesterday :p |
| 17:44.01 | Saeris | http://wowi.pastey.net/3254 It still doesn't work. It just displays the actions of the same page as the main action buttons. Anyone know why? This is getting annoying. |
| 17:44.08 | Nom- | xlvii: yes, but i can't reply to your because i'm not registered |
| 17:44.11 | cogwheel | sysrage: strategy and paying attention |
| 17:44.17 | Grine | WTB PerfectRaid2.0 |
| 17:44.20 | Kalroth | "LOLz wrung targget" |
| 17:44.27 | Nom- | sysrage: best was seems to be clique |
| 17:44.35 | xlvii | nom-, what realm do you play on? ;p |
| 17:44.37 | Nom- | i'll be gonig clique + perfectraid when it's fixed for 2.0 |
| 17:44.38 | Kalroth | Grid + Clique is what I've read |
| 17:44.43 | Nom- | xlvii: Stormscale |
| 17:44.45 | sysrage | i heard about clique but can't seem to find it. where can i get it? |
| 17:44.58 | xlvii | nom-, do you have an australian guild there or something? |
| 17:44.58 | Nom- | www.wowinterface.com |
| 17:44.58 | Gryphen | http://fs3.wowinterface.com/the_list.html |
| 17:45.02 | Nom- | if it's working |
| 17:45.05 | sysrage | ty |
| 17:45.24 | Nom- | xlvii: kind of...there's austrlians, kiwis, malaysians, and a few canadian night owls |
| 17:45.33 | xlvii | nom-, i see ;p |
| 17:45.57 | xlvii | nom-, what race are you? p; |
| 17:46.01 | Nom- | There's a guild 'Horde Down Under' who are also a big Australian guild |
| 17:46.08 | cogwheel | Saeris: button:SetId(0) |
| 17:46.10 | Nom- | Undead Mage |
| 17:46.15 | xlvii | nom-, that was a stupid question, lol. |
| 17:46.21 | xlvii | just had to look at your hotbars. |
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| 17:46.27 | Nom- | yep, indeed |
| 17:46.28 | cogwheel | it gets it's action from it's ID unless it's ID is 0 |
| 17:46.40 | xlvii | nom-, register.. so we can talk in pm. ;p |
| 17:47.07 | Nom- | done |
| 17:47.46 | cogwheel | Saeris: err... might be SetID not SetId |
| 17:48.34 | Saeris | cogwheel: But the idea is to update the bar based on ACTIONBAR_PAGE_CHANGED. You can't schedule a SetID call with the API, and you can't do it yourself while in combat. |
| 17:48.54 | cogwheel | Saeris: you do it when you're first setting up the buttons in the code you pasteyed... |
| 17:49.10 | cogwheel | The IDs never change during the course of play |
| 17:49.36 | cogwheel | But the actionbarbutton code picks the action based on it's ID if present |
| 17:49.50 | cogwheel | so you get rid of the ID, and it uses the SecureActionButton method |
| 17:49.53 | Saeris | Oh, I see what you're saying. |
| 17:59.29 | Saeris | That partially worked, thanks. Now the buttons have the appropriate actions on click, but their key bindings do not show because the ActionButton_UpdateHotkeys function calls button:GetID to determine the binding. Any way around that? |
| 18:01.52 | Saeris | Ah, I guess I would need to use SetBindingKey... |
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| 18:07.07 | nevcairiel | haha a guildmember of mine claims to have solved the decursive problem, he claims to have a click-able list of people with curses .. i cant wait to see that :) |
| 18:07.28 | SB1-Work | It's probably just that: a clickable list of names |
| 18:07.32 | Parabola_ | ya |
| 18:07.44 | nevcairiel | he claims he can click-cast on them |
| 18:07.48 | SB1-Work | Which... we already have, in about two billion forms |
| 18:07.53 | Parabola_ | pretty sure you can |
| 18:08.07 | Silv | i think nav is saying that the list gets dynamicly populated while in combat as people get cursed |
| 18:08.08 | nevcairiel | but you cannot add people who get a curse and remove who got cleaned |
| 18:08.09 | Silv | and it is clickable |
| 18:08.16 | Silv | nev* sorry |
| 18:08.24 | Kaso | mm, its basically just a raidframe that setsAlpha Depending on who is cursed. |
| 18:08.36 | Kaso | that has clickcast dispel on it |
| 18:08.39 | Parabola_ | i dont think it changes, just that its there and it shows who has a curse |
| 18:09.53 | Cairenn|afk | Elkano: ping? |
| 18:10.57 | Elkano | pong |
| 18:12.04 | Corrodias | interesting. there's really no decursing "problem" with PerfectRaid & click-casting |
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| 18:14.18 | Kemayo | bnovc: You don't actually need to get FuBar to use ToFu. It'll just add a minimap icon if you don't. |
| 18:15.43 | Caeryn|Work | hmm Horde Down Under seems like a record triple entendre |
| 18:16.21 | Kemayo | I've been tempted to move my not-requiring-FuBar FuBar plugins out of the FuBar category, just because of the strong YOU MUST HAVE FUBAR warning across the top of the screen... |
| 18:16.44 | Elkano | ok, does SetParent change FrameStratas? |
| 18:17.14 | seebs | I'm having a bit of stupid moment. I have a local variable in my addon. I set it in one function, then try to refer to it in another, and get nil. |
| 18:17.31 | Cide | seebs: is it defined as local above both functions? |
| 18:17.40 | seebs | Yes, top of file. |
| 18:17.57 | seebs | I am wondering whether there could be some scope issue where a button callback, where "this" refers to the button, isn't in the same scope as the rest of the addon. |
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| 18:21.03 | malreth | hey, ck |
| 18:21.30 | Guillotine | is there a problem with the [button:#] modifier in macros? a bunch of people can't get it to work |
| 18:21.50 | nevcairiel | it doesnt work on state-changed buttons, well it does work, but you need to adapt the # |
| 18:21.51 | malreth | on the default action bars or with bongos |
| 18:22.20 | Guillotine | so it should be working on default action bars? |
| 18:22.45 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 18:22.57 | seebs | Indeed, if I remove the "local ..." declaration from the top of the file, it starts working. |
| 18:23.08 | Cairenn|afk | hi ckknight |
| 18:24.41 | seebs | Hey, dumb newbie lua question. |
| 18:24.49 | Guillotine | nevcairiel: what do you mean adapt the #? Isn't the # just the mouse button? (1 is left, 2 is right, 3 is middle) |
| 18:25.04 | nevcairiel | no its the virtual button |
| 18:25.11 | seebs | If I have a table of tables, and I do something like "local x = BigTable["foo"]", then will "x[3] = y" be the same as "Bigtable["foo"][3] = y"? |
| 18:25.16 | seebs | In short, am I getting a reference or a copy? |
| 18:25.28 | ckknight | yes, seebs |
| 18:25.32 | ckknight | reference |
| 18:25.33 | seebs | Hmmm. |
| 18:25.39 | nevcairiel | so with Bartender3, it would be S01 for left and S02 for right click, only assuming you are in no stance whatsoever .. changes with stances |
| 18:25.44 | seebs | Well, it's not working as I expected, but I could be doing about a million things wrong. |
| 18:25.44 | nevcairiel | dunno about other addons |
| 18:26.18 | TuX_BuBling | Does someone has seen Tuller? |
| 18:26.25 | Xavalia | did anyone else notice that stance swapping upon ui reload is not working at all anymore with Bongos? (latest version) |
| 18:27.27 | Kaso | seebs if you post some code we might be able to spot mistakes. |
| 18:27.31 | Kaso | pastey.net |
| 18:29.36 | Qshadowp | Anyone care to give me a macro that says cast blast wave, but if blast wave is on cooldown then cast arcane explosion? |
| 18:30.11 | cogwheel | Qshadowp: that's specifically prohibited |
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| 18:30.19 | phreaky | Greetings |
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| 18:30.34 | Kaso | cogwheel: what about /castsequence reset=30 Blast Wave, Arcane Explosion |
| 18:30.48 | Qshadowp | aww |
| 18:30.51 | Guillotine | that'll only work for one AE |
| 18:30.57 | Kaso | true |
| 18:30.58 | cogwheel | Kaso: that wouldn't work for multiple reasons |
| 18:31.02 | Qshadowp | spose its no problem |
| 18:31.09 | Qshadowp | it was just to save a key binding really |
| 18:31.17 | Kaso | ./castsequence reset=30 Blast Wave, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Explosion, Arcane Explosion etc etc then ? |
| 18:31.20 | cogwheel | not the least of which is that reset is a timeout |
| 18:31.33 | phreaky | Hi Kaso, are u here also :) |
| 18:31.36 | cogwheel | Kaso: nope |
| 18:31.41 | malreth | kaso, the 30 seconds resets each time the sequence is activated |
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| 18:31.53 | Kaso | really? i didnt know that. |
| 18:31.56 | cogwheel | specifically to prevent that kind of thing |
| 18:32.26 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.51 | malreth | if you must have both on the same button |
| 18:33.03 | Qshadowp | yea maybe :) |
| 18:33.15 | malreth | or spec frost. :D |
| 18:33.17 | Corrodias | apparently they want you to manually choose what spell to cast |
| 18:33.20 | Corrodias | how terrible! :( |
| 18:33.26 | malreth | no... |
| 18:33.35 | axxo | "/cast dispel magic; abolish disease" should try both right? and dispel will fail when notting to dispel, making it cast abolish with just 1 button press? |
| 18:33.36 | malreth | obviously Blizzard wants you to spec frost because fire is dumb |
| 18:33.43 | cogwheel | axxo: no |
| 18:33.43 | malreth | axxo: nope |
| 18:33.49 | Corrodias | it's so obvious. how didn't i see it? thank you, malreth! |
| 18:33.51 | axxo | how do i do that then |
| 18:33.51 | cogwheel | that's exactly the kind of thing they're disabling |
| 18:33.58 | axxo | pff! |
| 18:33.58 | cogwheel | you don't |
| 18:34.10 | cogwheel | YOU are supposed to choose which spell to cast |
| 18:34.13 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.32 | malreth | or |
| 18:34.42 | Corrodias | axxo: my recommendation? alt-leftclick abolish disease, alt-rightclick dispel magic, and party and raid frames that make debuffs that you can cure obvious |
| 18:34.49 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.59 | malreth | or even better, use Clique |
| 18:35.03 | Corrodias | button:2? |
| 18:35.04 | Qshadowp | malreth i used to be fire specd |
| 18:35.06 | axxo | button2 = mouse button? |
| 18:35.17 | cogwheel | 1 = left, 2= right, 3= middle |
| 18:35.18 | malreth | yep... right click to abolish, left click to dispel |
| 18:35.28 | malreth | or use Clique as I mentioned |
| 18:35.48 | Qshadowp | malreth i dont like this whole pet thing at all |
| 18:35.50 | malreth | then you don't need to use an action button for dispelling |
| 18:35.55 | sysrage | clique sounds sweet. can't wait to get home and try it.. left click to cure, right click to AI.. that'll work eh? |
| 18:36.15 | malreth | sysrage: yeah |
| 18:36.28 | malreth | although i personally use alt-clicks for my clickcasting |
| 18:36.38 | malreth | but whatever works for you |
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| 18:38.07 | seebs | WOOO! I have a scrolling list of objects which can be edited or deleted, and there's always an extra item at the end of the list that you can use to enter new items. |
| 18:38.22 | Industrial | ep 40/50, good story |
| 18:38.37 | Eggi | is there something like TC that shows the dmg/healing on the buttons and not only in the tooltip? |
| 18:39.12 | phreaky | any1 here using ocD for cooldown bars? |
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| 18:45.58 | Kirkburn | Question - anyone on Tempest Keep EU able to loan me 2100g? |
| 18:46.16 | Kirkburn | I'm waiting for my housemates char copy to go through atm |
| 18:47.49 | nevcairiel | Hrm |
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| 18:48.11 | nevcairiel | could i do a macro where i place two spells in, it tries the first spell, and if that fails casts the second? |
| 18:48.44 | SH|Shabador | Anyone got a SimpleMinimap for 2.0 at hand? Impossible to try to get something from any of the 3 UI sites. |
| 18:48.46 | nevcairiel | Like remove curse, which can only be casted if target is cursed, and abolish poison as second .. can always be applied due to the buff |
| 18:49.12 | SH|Shabador | And this was the wrong channel anyway.... :p |
| 18:49.46 | phreaky | http://www.wowace.com/files/ works dont it? |
| 18:51.00 | Corrodias | i thnk we just established that you can't do that, nevcairiel |
| 18:51.08 | nevcairiel | i should scroll up more |
| 18:51.12 | nevcairiel | :D |
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| 18:51.38 | Corrodias | arr. it's not far up tehre. |
| 18:51.42 | Corrodias | *there. omg typo!!!! |
| 18:52.21 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.22 | Inside | :< |
| 18:52.36 | phreaky | beta.wow-europe.com or something for eu :) |
| 18:52.56 | phreaky | The author of ocD don't happend to be here does he ? =) |
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| 18:53.18 | Inside | Don't see any obvious button there |
| 18:53.58 | phreaky | http://www.wow-europe.com/account/character-copy-intro.html |
| 18:54.01 | phreaky | try that |
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| 18:54.06 | Inside | I'm not euro though c.c |
| 18:54.21 | phreaky | oh ok.. sry =) |
| 18:54.23 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.29 | phreaky | yeah u get a link there also |
| 18:54.30 | phreaky | =) |
| 18:55.22 | Inside | oh god |
| 18:55.24 | Inside | the page is slow |
| 18:57.21 | Corrodias | everyone loves magical trevor |
| 18:58.38 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.41 | Cide | DANCE! |
| 18:58.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:00.24 | Caeryn|Work | someone should sneak magical trevor song into their mods |
| 19:00.30 | Cide | I did |
| 19:00.37 | Caeryn|Work | hahaa really? |
| 19:00.44 | Caeryn|Work | can i trigger it to play on other people's computer? |
| 19:00.47 | Cide | it was in a version of ctra |
| 19:00.54 | Cide | and yes, it was played for the whole raid that had that version |
| 19:01.04 | Caeryn|Work | speaking of CTthingy, what do you think of the newer mods? Bigwigs and such |
| 19:01.22 | Caeryn|Work | Are you going to trumph their asses? |
| 19:01.26 | Cide | competition is never bad |
| 19:01.29 | Cide | time will tell :) |
| 19:02.13 | Caeryn|Work | welllll |
| 19:02.25 | Caeryn|Work | are you going to make mondo changes to ct? |
| 19:02.40 | Caeryn|Work | because everyday its like bigwigs, perfectraid, bigwigs, bigwigs blah blah blah |
| 19:02.46 | Caeryn|Work | oh and RDX |
| 19:02.57 | Caeryn|Work | and i'm telling my guildies "chill, because ctra2 is coming out" |
| 19:03.12 | Cide | oh, we still have a.. fair bit of users :) |
| 19:03.50 | Antiarc | CTRA definitely has the mindshare. |
| 19:04.07 | Caeryn|Work | yes |
| 19:04.09 | phreaky | Any1 got some nice raidframes to recomend btw? |
| 19:04.13 | Caeryn|Work | ctra |
| 19:04.13 | Antiarc | I'll admit to liking an oRA/PerfectRaid combo better, though :/ |
| 19:04.29 | Caeryn|Work | i also must admit BigWigs kinda stole the show for me |
| 19:04.44 | DrDre | ora2/sRaidFrames replaces ctra |
| 19:04.49 | DrDre | sRaidFrames is jus like ctra's |
| 19:04.56 | phreaky | I dislike the sraidframes =/ |
| 19:05.04 | DrDre | its like virtually the same as ctra's |
| 19:05.04 | phreaky | Me wants perfectraid ;( |
| 19:05.11 | DrDre | praid is nice yea |
| 19:05.15 | DrDre | but i jus used aguf's frames |
| 19:05.25 | DrDre | they look pretty :o |
| 19:05.38 | phreaky | Me to, but i prefer the look of praid |
| 19:05.52 | DrDre | http://fanetworks.net/addons/wowui.png |
| 19:05.56 | DCUI2 | anyone know of a buff reorganizer addon (that would let you move, regruop and scale the blizz buff icons) ? |
| 19:06.13 | DrDre | EBB |
| 19:06.15 | DrDre | ElkBuffBar |
| 19:06.38 | phreaky | elkbuffbar rocks .) |
| 19:06.40 | Cide | CT_BuffMod works as well |
| 19:07.21 | Caeryn|Work | DrDre: your UI is horrible |
| 19:07.24 | DCUI2 | I have tried EBB, it was verry nice but it had bars + name on buffs, I'm looking for just icons with timers that are movable |
| 19:07.30 | Caeryn|Work | it takes up over 40% of your screen |
| 19:07.36 | DrDre | thats raids >_> |
| 19:07.41 | Caeryn|Work | you might as well be playing that offline playing game |
| 19:07.48 | Caeryn|Work | uh offline healing game :p |
| 19:08.05 | DrDre | your opinion is flawed though |
| 19:08.09 | DrDre | you dont even understand my UI |
| 19:08.10 | Cide | DCUI2: http://ctscreens.net/10003 ? :) |
| 19:08.15 | DrDre | thats actually about 10% covered |
| 19:08.26 | phreaky | this is my ui, http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ace2uitz6.jpg |
| 19:08.28 | Cide | DCUI2: http://ctscreens.net/1000 * |
| 19:08.45 | DrDre | theres this nifty thing called Viewport! |
| 19:09.06 | Cide | phreaky: what's that mail mod? |
| 19:09.08 | Xavalia | http://sacredhill.game-host.org/sacred/Other/Screens/new_ui_battle.png <-- my interface atm |
| 19:09.09 | nevcairiel | how the fuck do you get to 140mb? |
| 19:09.20 | Caeryn|Work | phreaky: nice minimalistic |
| 19:09.20 | phreaky | Cide: it's GMail |
| 19:09.20 | phreaky | Cairenn|afk: thanks :) |
| 19:09.24 | Cide | ah, they copy designs too |
| 19:09.32 | Cide | not only functionality :) |
| 19:09.37 | Caeryn|Work | I'm not Cairenn eh |
| 19:09.41 | DCUI2 | Cide, they are verry nice, but takes up to much visible space fo my taste, is it possible to disable the bars + names ? |
| 19:09.56 | phreaky | Caeryn|Work: The only thing that screws it up is the button from coolDown at the minimap =(( |
| 19:09.56 | Cide | DCUI2: did you look at the screenshot? |
| 19:10.05 | Caeryn|Work | what buff timers do you use phreaky |
| 19:10.12 | Guillotine | looks like elkano's to me |
| 19:10.13 | phreaky | ElkBuffBar |
| 19:10.14 | DrDre | cides ui has jus as much covered on his as my raid ui does |
| 19:10.24 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 19:10.51 | phreaky | I so want ocD to work =( The cooldown bar i got now is good but the button at the minimap screws up the look :) |
| 19:11.01 | kergoth | ocd works fine here |
| 19:11.02 | DCUI2 | cide, yes i saw the buff frame on http://ctscreens.net/1000 |
| 19:11.07 | DrDre | http://fanetworks.net/addons/wowuinormal.png care to say too much covers my screen now? |
| 19:11.11 | phreaky | I use ocD but it only works on 2-3 spells and nothing else.. |
| 19:11.17 | Cide | that's not my ui |
| 19:11.20 | DrDre | oh :P |
| 19:11.23 | kergoth | ocd scans actionbuttons only, not spellbook |
| 19:11.25 | Cide | oh, my bad |
| 19:11.30 | kergoth | make sure everything you're using is on a bar somewhere |
| 19:11.31 | Cide | http://ctscreens.net/1003 |
| 19:11.49 | phreaky | kergoth: they gotta be that? |
| 19:11.51 | kergoth | afaik anyway |
| 19:11.59 | Caeryn|Work | dude that's at least still 1/3 of your screen covered |
| 19:12.00 | phreaky | Why whould i need that cooldown timer if i have the buttons visible =( |
| 19:12.01 | kergoth | they have to be on a bar.. not necessarily a visible one.. |
| 19:12.04 | DrDre | .......... |
| 19:12.07 | kergoth | put them on a hidden bar. |
| 19:12.07 | DrDre | please learn2addon man |
| 19:12.09 | Caeryn|Work | that whole opaque thing at the bottom is retro |
| 19:12.12 | DrDre | its called CT_ViewPort |
| 19:12.18 | DrDre | that part is not part of my screen! |
| 19:12.21 | phreaky | kergoth: i use Spellbinder, got almost NONE of my spells on buttons =( |
| 19:12.23 | Cide | DrDre: take it easy |
| 19:12.24 | DCUI2 | cide, that was pretty nice, is it possible to disable the background on the timers ? |
| 19:12.28 | Cide | DCUI2: yes |
| 19:12.36 | Cide | you can disable everything but the buff icon if you want |
| 19:12.37 | DCUI2 | Mmmm sweet |
| 19:12.46 | kergoth | phreaky, so unhide the extra blizzard bars and put them on buttons, or use cooldown or cooldowntimerbars instead of ocd |
| 19:12.59 | Caeryn|Work | when you make CT viewport occupy just the upper 2/3 of your screen, you're still giving away 1/3 ;P |
| 19:12.59 | DCUI2 | how much modules do i need to configure it, master mod ? |
| 19:13.00 | kergoth | haste intentionally doesnt scan the spellbook for efficiency reasons |
| 19:13.15 | phreaky | =((((( |
| 19:13.29 | Caeryn|Work | but relax man, everyone has their likes and dislikes |
| 19:13.39 | Caeryn|Work | i have a friend who covers his goddamn screen with buttons because he is a clicker |
| 19:13.47 | DrDre | when you run at 1280x960 thats no issue, i see everything on screen |
| 19:14.17 | Caeryn|Work | http://www.code-poets.org/WoWScrnShot_120106_222048.jpg |
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| 19:15.02 | Cide | DCUI2: if you only want CT_BuffMod, just download CT_BuffMod |
| 19:15.11 | Cide | no dependencies; just type /ct in-game to get the control panel |
| 19:15.13 | DCUI2 | cide thank you =) |
| 19:16.41 | DrDre | sorry if i came off harsh Caeryn|Work, just took reaction to your comment saying my UI is horrible >_> |
| 19:16.51 | Caeryn|Work | one thing that always confuses me is how dps classes like to show their party frame. I mean is it absolutely necessary to know how much rage the MT has? Some people argue for more information on the screen -- but I think that the more frippery you have the more likely the important information you have can be overlooked |
| 19:16.56 | Caeryn|Work | DrDre: oh it is |
| 19:16.58 | Caeryn|Work | DrDre: KIDDING! |
| 19:17.02 | DrDre | <_< |
| 19:17.18 | Caeryn|Work | DrDre: its nice I know lots of people who use their UI like yours |
| 19:17.33 | Eobert | I have a question about key bindings... |
| 19:18.01 | Caeryn|Work | DrDre: i am just pretty huge on "do i absolutely need this information to make me play better? if i remove this, will it improve my ability to pick up on more important signals and events" |
| 19:18.11 | DrDre | i like design |
| 19:18.24 | phreaky | i love minimalistic ui's :) |
| 19:18.30 | phreaky | as much free space as posible :) |
| 19:18.32 | DrDre | the bottom part is slightly different in my current, but still there |
| 19:18.33 | kergoth | i'm an information addict and a minimalist |
| 19:18.37 | kergoth | i'm always torn on the ui :P |
| 19:19.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | wpw finely one of my mods becomes pupolair :P its downloaded > 5000 times :P |
| 19:19.51 | phreaky | wich addon? =) |
| 19:20.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | Auto Flightpath Unmoint |
| 19:20.56 | phreaky | Ah :) |
| 19:21.00 | sysrage | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=59&Set=64 |
| 19:21.07 | DrDre | http://fanetworks.net/wow/wowui.png thats sorta what mine looks like now since i dont have ViewPort >_> cept circled buttons from cyCircled, cept chat boxes are fully extended to bottom without borders, and edit box moved to top of line and huds way spread out now |
| 19:21.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | LoL |
| 19:22.14 | phreaky | I so wish i could code LUA, i would make ConsoleMage work in 2.0! :) |
| 19:22.18 | Caeryn|Work | i'm with phreaky, i have my CTRaid unitframes toggled to my + button on my numpad |
| 19:22.56 | Caeryn|Work | when i'm dps I sometimes hit it to see what's up, then hit it again because its annoying :P |
| 19:22.56 | DrDre | i jus keep raid frames on screen at all times even tho i dont need em as rogue so i can see whos all dead :P |
| 19:22.56 | phreaky | I used to have that to, and only show the raidframes when i needed to buff some group :) |
| 19:23.01 | Caeryn|Work | another thing that bothers me is -- is it absolutely necessary to have a countdown bar with your buffs? it increases the space taken by buffs by 3x or 4x |
| 19:23.03 | DrDre | if i see 8/10 the raid dead, time to vsanish >_> |
| 19:23.14 | phreaky | Caeryn|Work: it IS needed if u have all spells on hidden buttons :) |
| 19:23.38 | Caeryn|Work | DrDre: you have to ask yourself if that's necessary -- because if you turn off all unessential mods you can SEE from the game that 8/10 of the raid is dead instead of relying on a mod to tell you that |
| 19:23.45 | Caeryn|Work | its like, filtering your game experience through a mod |
| 19:23.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | DrDre: wuts your fps :P |
| 19:23.55 | Caeryn|Work | mod tells you "you are having fun" |
| 19:24.02 | DrDre | 20-30 |
| 19:24.39 | Caeryn|Work | phreaky: i am thinking of adding a player buff feature to DHUD where if your buffs < 3 minutes it will show up |
| 19:24.58 | phreaky | Haven't tried Dhud tbh :) |
| 19:24.58 | Caeryn|Work | the point is to keep it to the right of the DHUD so that you can see the exact time on your SnD and shouts |
| 19:25.02 | DrDre | i went a lil bit cheaper on card and got a 7900 GS ;x wish i had more money i woulda got a SLI mobo |
| 19:25.05 | Caeryn|Work | well fuck try DHUD |
| 19:25.16 | Caeryn|Work | it has target of target |
| 19:25.17 | phreaky | hah :) I've never feld in need of a hud really :) |
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| 19:25.21 | phreaky | felt |
| 19:25.44 | phreaky | Caeryn: i might try it if it's an Ace addon ^^ |
| 19:25.52 | DrDre | if huds gave ability to right click for menus i woulnt need player/target frames >< |
| 19:26.12 | Caeryn|Work | phreaky: its not Ace, but I am the main programmer so you will try it anyway |
| 19:26.17 | phreaky | haha |
| 19:26.23 | Caeryn|Work | unless you like walking around with BROKEN LEGS |
| 19:26.24 | phreaky | I'm 110% ace atm, don't wanna change that :) |
| 19:26.38 | Caeryn|Work | i'll put an Ace2 tag to the end of the addon name for you |
| 19:26.38 | phreaky | Caeryn|Work: haha! That's how u get your addons popular right? =) |
| 19:26.44 | Cide | ace increases your fps by 10000% fps |
| 19:26.56 | Cide | I come from the department of the redundancy department, for the record |
| 19:27.11 | Caeryn|Work | good job Cide :) |
| 19:27.47 | Guillotine | imo, if your fps is >15, you don't have enough mods |
| 19:27.49 | Caeryn|Work | phreaky: well honestly I am taking the HUD in the direct of "i never felt i needed player/target/party/targetoftarget unitframes really" |
| 19:28.11 | phreaky | Yeah it works that way also :) |
| 19:28.15 | Caeryn|Work | hey |
| 19:28.19 | Caeryn|Work | are you able to go in game |
| 19:28.25 | phreaky | I'm ingame |
| 19:28.26 | Caeryn|Work | want to try out my new DHUD? |
| 19:28.31 | phreaky | haha |
| 19:28.32 | Caeryn|Work | that no one else except me has? |
| 19:28.34 | Caeryn|Work | :D |
| 19:28.48 | phreaky | Give me a good reason to try it out ^^ |
| 19:28.51 | Caeryn|Work | <-- convinces people to use DHUD via threats and cajoling |
| 19:28.54 | Caeryn|Work | broken legs |
| 19:28.56 | Caeryn|Work | oh and candy |
| 19:29.00 | Guillotine | ~threaten phreaky |
| 19:29.07 | phreaky | candy and broken legs.. depending on the age ^^ |
| 19:29.09 | Caeryn|Work | i'm a guy |
| 19:29.16 | Caeryn|Work | just happens my mods are written under this name |
| 19:29.23 | Caeryn|Work | so i have to use a damn girl's name |
| 19:29.29 | Tierrie|Work | ok |
| 19:29.31 | phreaky | And u think i will try your addon now!?! |
| 19:29.32 | Tierrie|Work | less gay |
| 19:29.32 | phreaky | :P |
| 19:29.36 | Josh_Borke | you don't have to do anything :-P |
| 19:29.48 | Tierrie|Work | fine! |
| 19:29.50 | Guillotine | purl, are you working? |
| 19:29.53 | Tierrie|Work | i will be sad |
| 19:30.05 | Guillotine | noooo! purl died! |
| 19:30.08 | Tierrie|Work | wanna try it phreaky? :) |
| 19:30.09 | cogwheel | ~botsmack |
| 19:30.11 | purl | OWW! |
| 19:30.16 | phreaky | Guillotine: i think Caeryn is a pseudonym for 'Shag' don't u think? :P |
| 19:30.23 | Tierrie|Work | i'd hit that |
| 19:30.25 | Guillotine | very funny |
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| 19:30.45 | Guillotine | btw, if you guys want to see comedy at its finest, read the comments for http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1134/cooldown/ |
| 19:30.59 | Guillotine | "0.0.4.0 is unsupported. And btw, it's movable, I just checked, find out how yourself." |
| 19:31.09 | Cide | haha |
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| 19:31.36 | Guillotine | his addon description starts with " |
| 19:31.36 | Guillotine | Is here anyone who can read or am I surrounded by morons??? " |
| 19:32.04 | Tierrie|Work | you know whatr would be really cool is if I released Blizzard's Default UI under a new name |
| 19:32.10 | Guillotine | haha |
| 19:32.11 | Guillotine | do it |
| 19:32.21 | Tierrie|Work | be like "Caeryn's Special UI! Guarenteed to work" |
| 19:32.56 | Tierrie|Work | so phreaky: yes no? |
| 19:33.11 | phreaky | Yes I'd love to test out your hud!! |
| 19:33.14 | Tierrie|Work | liar |
| 19:33.18 | Guillotine | lol |
| 19:33.18 | phreaky | After I've been to the store.. |
| 19:33.24 | phreaky | :) |
| 19:33.30 | Guillotine | ~lart phreaky |
| 19:33.34 | phreaky | brb 10 mins.. then I'll try your damn hud ^^ |
| 19:33.39 | Tierrie|Work | you know how I knew?! no one is ever this enthusiastic about me asking them to do anything |
| 19:33.50 | Xavalia | I don'r like huds |
| 19:33.52 | Guillotine | Tierrie: what server are you on? |
| 19:33.55 | Tierrie|Work | its usually "welllll ok" or "fine fine" |
| 19:33.59 | Tierrie|Work | Whisperwind |
| 19:34.06 | phreaky | I would be very enthusiastic of a recoded "ConsoleMage" addon ;P |
| 19:34.08 | Guillotine | oh. I'd help if you were on Draenor. then I could charge you gold |
| 19:34.13 | Tierrie|Work | haha |
| 19:34.27 | Tierrie|Work | i would roll an alt |
| 19:34.30 | Tierrie|Work | send you copper ore |
| 19:34.42 | Tierrie|Work | snivvle a bit and follow you around and call you masta |
| 19:35.26 | Tierrie|Work | you know what |
| 19:35.38 | Guillotine | hmmm. I actually need copper ore for jewelcrafting... |
| 19:35.43 | Tierrie|Work | I bet curse and wowi could charge $5 a year for premium membership |
| 19:36.03 | Guillotine | lol |
| 19:36.05 | Tierrie|Work | put the damn thing on another server, call it premium.curse-gaming.com and let people who have an account download mods |
| 19:36.13 | Guillotine | would work on patch days |
| 19:36.17 | Tierrie|Work | hell yes |
| 19:36.19 | Guillotine | worldofwar.net has that |
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| 19:36.31 | Tierrie|Work | well worldofwar doesn't have representatives here so screw them |
| 19:36.46 | Guillotine | or have a *limited* 100 accoutns on patch day and auction them |
| 19:36.54 | Guillotine | winners get to download mods |
| 19:37.01 | Tierrie|Work | losers get boned in IF |
| 19:37.05 | Guillotine | yup |
| 19:37.24 | Gryphen | site outages are a rare occurance on patch days anymore |
| 19:37.32 | Guillotine | ya, it was only this one |
| 19:37.37 | Guillotine | due to ALL mods needing to be fixed |
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| 19:37.52 | Guillotine | usually sites go slow, but stay up |
| 19:37.59 | m|a|x | this is a wowinterface channel? |
| 19:38.08 | Guillotine | nope. addon author channel more like |
| 19:38.15 | Scre3m | ok |
| 19:38.16 | Guillotine | but yes, its run by WoWI |
| 19:38.17 | [Cu]Werik | That would rock, would be a great way to buy that second 8800GTX |
| 19:38.19 | [Cu]Werik | :P |
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| 19:39.09 | Guillotine | us addon authors should form a union |
| 19:39.11 | Guillotine | and charge for addons |
| 19:39.20 | Josh_Borke | i'll never charge |
| 19:39.24 | Scre3m | question: i wrote DisableChatTextFading which is now incomptiable; all it did was disable chat text from fading; is it possible to disable the chat text from fading in 2.*? |
| 19:39.26 | Josh_Borke | prevent me from actually having to support my mods |
| 19:39.35 | Josh_Borke | Scre3m: have you tried? |
| 19:39.55 | [Cu]Werik | I'd charge for the charge |
| 19:39.57 | Guillotine | Scre3m: you disable it same way I believe |
| 19:40.05 | Scre3m | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5122 |
| 19:40.15 | Scre3m | i'm not sure what to try |
| 19:40.24 | Tierrie|Work | dude Scre3m: its in the default interfaces -- you can turn that off |
| 19:41.04 | Guillotine | and that same script/addon should work. if anything needs to be changed, its just lua syntax |
| 19:41.05 | Scre3m | no no, thatz a little different |
| 19:41.06 | Tierrie|Work | i think there's a button that says something like "All Chat Text Appear Instantly" |
| 19:41.22 | Tierrie|Work | Guillotine: I don't think i do this for money |
| 19:41.33 | Guillotine | no, but wouldn't it be nice to get money too! |
| 19:41.36 | Tierrie|Work | Guillotine: I do this for props. So everyone should flatter me or else no downloads for you! |
| 19:41.41 | Scre3m | the interface option alls the fading to be instant when mouse over, i want to disanle the fading all-together |
| 19:41.51 | Tierrie|Work | no, my job pays me quite ok. but I get no props or job satisfaction |
| 19:42.05 | Guillotine | ahh, ok |
| 19:42.05 | Tierrie|Work | what i want is not money, its respect and maybe a posse |
| 19:42.06 | Guillotine | then I'll compliment you, you give me your share of the money :D |
| 19:42.14 | Tierrie|Work | we should have like a UI gang faceoff with a ActionBar gang |
| 19:42.17 | Scre3m | allows* |
| 19:42.21 | Tierrie|Work | and we'll do it to grease music |
| 19:43.01 | Scre3m | this will still work? "/script for i=1,7 do getglobal("ChatFrame"..i):SetFading(nil) end" ? |
| 19:43.05 | Guillotine | Sce3m: update toc to 20000 and the addon will work |
| 19:43.08 | Guillotine | I just checked the code |
| 19:43.15 | Scre3m | GREAT! thanks! |
| 19:43.17 | Guillotine | your addon is so simple it needs no changes |
| 19:43.23 | Scre3m | excellent |
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| 19:45.57 | Industrial | I just got the perfect name for a guild |
| 19:46.05 | Industrial | <Corpse Corps> |
| 19:46.15 | Guillotine | I still like <FunctionHookers> |
| 19:46.15 | Industrial | huh! is that bad ass or what =P |
| 19:47.16 | Guillotine | <3 the beta guild name "<My Real Guild Thinks Im Dead> |
| 19:47.38 | Scre3m | haha |
| 19:47.43 | Guillotine | and its so true |
| 19:47.48 | Guillotine | we should have named our guild that :( |
| 19:48.06 | seebs | I want to do a wide chat frame; if I just stretch ChatInputBorder-Left and ChatInputBorder-Right, I get ugly ends. What should I use for the middle? |
| 19:48.15 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work i want your hud so badly! Can i get it on a cd with an autograph!? plz plz plz |
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| 19:48.56 | Guillotine | wb ck |
| 19:49.14 | Tierrie|Work | haha |
| 19:49.44 | Tierrie|Work | I'll upload it now brb |
| 19:49.52 | phreaky | Thank god, I've been waiting for it forever |
| 19:49.54 | phreaky | :) |
| 19:50.00 | Tierrie|Work | rotfl |
| 19:50.05 | kergoth | what hud is that? |
| 19:50.16 | phreaky | the best in the WORLD! |
| 19:50.29 | Industrial | pic! |
| 19:50.59 | phreaky | Ask Tierrie|Work for pics of it! |
| 19:52.13 | Scre3m | DisableChatTextFading 1.0.2 has been uploaded :) |
| 19:52.29 | Guillotine | Industrial: http://www.meriweather.com/16/center/hud.jpg |
| 19:52.33 | kergoth | does that hud have Focus support? |
| 19:52.42 | phreaky | Guillotine: lol |
| 19:52.43 | kergoth | hahah |
| 19:52.51 | phreaky | That's one hell of a hud! |
| 19:53.35 | seebs | Can someone explain how to make an edit box not look awful if it's sort of long? I am trying to scale the UI-ChatInputBorder stuff, but it's coming out awful. |
| 19:53.41 | seebs | Presumably it's technically possible, I just don't know how. |
| 19:54.49 | Tierrie|Work | hahaa |
| 19:54.51 | phreaky | I'm using alpha 0 on my editbox so i only see the text |
| 19:55.51 | seebs | I actually want the borders, sort of. Well, honestly, I don't want them very much, but I don't seem to be able to get rid of them without it being hard to see where the box is. |
| 19:56.20 | phreaky | It's not that hard really.. when u press enter you see like "Guild:" for example where it is =) |
| 19:56.52 | phreaky | And u get kinda used to where it is :) |
| 19:56.54 | seebs | Well, these are elements in a scrolling list, so I want something that shows people where to click to start typing, etc. |
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| 19:57.05 | Tierrie|Work | http://www.code-poets.org/DHUD_1_2a_20000.zip |
| 19:57.14 | Tierrie|Work | kergoth: how does a hud have focus support? |
| 19:57.27 | phreaky | seebs: ah, if your making it for other u might wanna do something else yea.. i got only myself to care about =) |
| 19:57.46 | kergoth | the same way it has target support, or target of target (metahud has that). just need to think about a new layout |
| 19:57.47 | seebs | Right. |
| 19:58.26 | Tierrie|Work | hmm |
| 19:58.31 | seebs | So, my question: The samples I've seen for editboxes use Textures of UI-ChatInputBorder-Left and UI-ChatInputBorder-Right. |
| 19:58.50 | seebs | What I'm trying to figure out how to do is get the middle of the texture stretched, without stretching the frame bits at the end. |
| 19:58.52 | kergoth | i know someone was talking about having not just bars on left and right, but also top and bottom, covering the full 360 |
| 19:58.55 | kergoth | which is an interesting possibility |
| 19:59.09 | Tierrie|Work | crazy people |
| 19:59.17 | phreaky | Any1 know why my settings to my editbox with the addon Prat wont save between sessions =/ all but the settings with the editbox gets saved :) |
| 19:59.20 | Tierrie|Work | crazy talk! |
| 19:59.20 | seebs | Does anyone have a link to an explanation of what TexCoords values means? I haven't found one. |
| 19:59.24 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky i linked it! |
| 19:59.30 | Tierrie|Work | also here's a screenie http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/f-16_hud_020410_09.jpg |
| 19:59.52 | phreaky | =) |
| 20:00.03 | phreaky | Can u include your autograph in a .txt file?! 0) |
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| 20:02.31 | phreaky | Is the Author of Prat here, or any1 that knows who they are? =) |
| 20:02.36 | Corrodias | come to think of it, i'm really not sure what i use CTRA for. i just assume there's some kind of communication of my status to other raid members underneath the hood. i don't really use the visible features. |
| 20:02.46 | Tierrie|Work | i will put my authograph here but you can copy it and paste it into a text file |
| 20:03.07 | Cairenn|afk | nap taken, errands run, guess I'm back |
| 20:03.10 | phreaky | yeah That'll rock Tierrie|Work! |
| 20:03.11 | Tierrie|Work | ~~@@@<3 Tierrie |
| 20:03.19 | phreaky | Write it private so only i get it! =( |
| 20:03.24 | phreaky | Now every1 got it =( |
| 20:03.25 | Tierrie|Work | To my biggest fan, phreaky |
| 20:03.27 | bnovc | someone told me to try chronometer for stun/poly timers but that apparently doesnt work in 2. |
| 20:03.34 | bnovc | *in 2.0, does anyone have any other suggestions |
| 20:03.37 | Tierrie|Work | rotfl |
| 20:03.37 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: <3 <3 |
| 20:03.44 | Industrial | oh DHUD |
| 20:03.46 | Industrial | .. |
| 20:04.05 | Tierrie|Work | what Industrial? |
| 20:04.10 | Corrodias | ttspelltimer was nice in 1.12, except that even then it sometimes missed events and sure wouldn't work in 2.0 |
| 20:04.16 | Guillotine | bnovc: theres one updated for 2.0 |
| 20:04.34 | bnovc | Guillotine: oh really? i got the one off wowinterface.com this morning and it did not work |
| 20:04.38 | bnovc | says incompatible |
| 20:04.43 | TC_Sleeping | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6172 |
| 20:04.46 | Guillotine | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6172-ChronometerTBC.html |
| 20:04.47 | TC_Sleeping | i use it |
| 20:05.03 | bnovc | ok ill try it thanks |
| 20:05.14 | bnovc | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5530-Chronometer.html is where i just got it |
| 20:05.19 | Tierrie|Work | I should write some utter bullshit about HUDs and paste it on the interface description --> "I wrote this HUD under the same fighting principle as the US Air Force, always keep your eyes on the enemies. Like Chuck Norris, my mentor once told me, focus on the target, so i designed this HUD with his advice in mind" |
| 20:05.26 | seebs | Got it! TexCoords was the secret; they're indexes into the texture, so using 0.2 to 0.8 gives the middle. |
| 20:05.29 | Guillotine | bnovc: thats the old version :) |
| 20:05.48 | Guillotine | Tierrie: lol |
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| 20:05.54 | bnovc | Guillotine: ah ok, well i wish the site told me these things |
| 20:06.02 | Thunder_Child | it does |
| 20:06.13 | Thunder_Child | or rather it tells you when it is tbc compatable |
| 20:06.21 | Industrial | gah never mind i guess. whatever |
| 20:06.28 | Cairenn | bnovc: it does tell you, did you look at the date on it, did you look for the "2.0 compatible" icon? |
| 20:06.37 | Jeff_ | has anyone got auctioneer working with the latest wow patch? |
| 20:06.42 | bnovc | Cairenn: well, i just searched for chronometer and that was the only relevant result |
| 20:06.45 | Cairenn | they have an alpha version |
| 20:06.57 | bnovc | i'm using auctioneer |
| 20:07.16 | cogwheel | http://rz-home.de/~ohoss/vid/Alien.mpg |
| 20:07.36 | bnovc | kunfu, tofu, and skillsplusfu all give me errors when i have them in |
| 20:07.40 | Jeff_ | mine wont work... it says its incompatable... i understand that they will update it but i was wondering if anyone has used teh Beta version? |
| 20:07.44 | bnovc | with the versions off wowinterface.com light version |
| 20:07.55 | bnovc | Jeff_: there isnt a beta, but i'm using the alpha and its fine |
| 20:08.47 | Jeff_ | when did that come out? |
| 20:08.49 | Cairenn | Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 release on Dec 19th | Alpha versions: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | Post bugs here, Don't PM | http://norganna.pastey.net/ | AnonUsers, please change your name in the lower-right corner of the Java applet | #wowi-lounge for general chatter | Patience, my young padawan. |
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| 20:09.21 | cladhaire | Its going to cost me $3000 to get my Dog to England |
| 20:09.37 | Cairenn | cladhaire: plus quarantine |
| 20:09.39 | Guillotine | cladhaire: hide it in your suitcase on the plane |
| 20:09.45 | cladhaire | no quarantine. |
| 20:10.01 | cladhaire | doesn't happen anymore. |
| 20:10.01 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 20:10.02 | Guillotine | cogwheel: lol, awesome video |
| 20:10.08 | cladhaire | you dont have to quarantine your dog, if you do the pre screening 6 months ahead of time. |
| 20:10.28 | Scre3m | cladhaire, are you THE cladhaire of PerfectRaid/Clique? |
| 20:10.33 | Cairenn | well, there's my "learn something new every day" for the day |
| 20:10.37 | cogwheel | RUN cladhaire RUN |
| 20:10.46 | Thunder_Child | lol cog |
| 20:10.48 | cogwheel | XD |
| 20:11.00 | Cairenn | cogwheel: hahahhahaa |
| 20:11.16 | Guillotine | scr3m, yup. its that cladhaire |
| 20:11.21 | Tierrie|Work | also she's a hottie |
| 20:11.24 | malreth | if you want cladhaire autographs, you will need to get in this line |
| 20:11.25 | Jarik | good afternoon folks. |
| 20:11.25 | Scre3m | my hero |
| 20:11.26 | Guillotine | shes a he |
| 20:11.28 | Tierrie|Work | with like blonde hair, slim figure and bright blue eyes |
| 20:11.31 | Tierrie|Work | and a wang |
| 20:11.31 | malreth | $5 each |
| 20:11.34 | Scre3m | *gets in line for autographs |
| 20:11.52 | phreaky | *gets in line for the first copy of a updated Perfect raid* |
| 20:11.53 | phreaky | :) |
| 20:11.53 | malreth | Tierrie|Work: LOL |
| 20:11.58 | cladhaire | Scre3m: There's only me. |
| 20:12.02 | malreth | wang... lawz |
| 20:12.09 | Guillotine | everyone assumes cladhaire is a girl for some reason o.O I think its the name |
| 20:12.09 | cogwheel | cladhaire: you should release a limited edition PerfectRaid |
| 20:12.12 | malreth | pee pees are funny... |
| 20:12.25 | cladhaire | cogwheel: oooh I can call it PerfectRaidX6 |
| 20:12.28 | cladhaire | and i can charge for it! |
| 20:12.30 | Thunder_Child | ah, i can see mal is taking his pills again |
| 20:12.31 | Scre3m | i'd pay for PerfectRaid development |
| 20:12.46 | cladhaire | Guillotine: Its pronounced "Cl-eye-rah", actually =) |
| 20:12.49 | phreaky | PerfectRaid is one of the best addons imo :) |
| 20:12.52 | Tierrie|Work | woah my number one and only fan has switched camps! |
| 20:12.55 | Scre3m | especially when its available for the party units |
| 20:13.06 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: nooo .. i havent! |
| 20:13.12 | Tierrie|Work | dissapointment! |
| 20:13.13 | Jarik | i have a question: does anyone know of a working cordinate mod not titan or ctraid for the newest patch? |
| 20:13.18 | Tierrie|Work | btw did you get that HUd to work? |
| 20:13.23 | Scre3m | as a priest, i can no longer live w/o perfectraid/clique |
| 20:13.24 | phreaky | Jarik: I use Cartographer |
| 20:13.33 | Corrodias | perfectraid makes me orgasm |
| 20:13.35 | cladhaire | lol i dont even use praid right now |
| 20:13.36 | Guillotine | Jarik: cosmos has one |
| 20:13.37 | cladhaire | i use blizzraid |
| 20:13.38 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:13.51 | phreaky | cladhaire: is there any new version comming up btw? We are many ppl wondering :) |
| 20:13.51 | Jarik | eacck, cosmos bugs me lol |
| 20:13.52 | Scre3m | what is a good temp replacement for praid? |
| 20:13.56 | Cairenn | most of the people in this channel are "THE x of y" |
| 20:13.57 | phreaky | Scre3m: there is none =( |
| 20:13.59 | cladhaire | phreaky: yes, join the legions |
| 20:13.59 | Corrodias | Scre3m: playing other games |
| 20:14.00 | cladhaire | apparently |
| 20:14.04 | phreaky | cladhaire: hehe.. |
| 20:14.23 | Scre3m | well i can play me other toons just fine w/o praid hehe |
| 20:14.29 | Scre3m | but not priest |
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| 20:14.43 | Scre3m | as as we all know priest > all |
| 20:14.58 | Corrodias | well, my druid is on vacation, too |
| 20:15.03 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 20:15.05 | phreaky | cladhaire: Do perfectraid have an option to bind a hotkey for hide/show raid frames? Or will it have in case it doesnt.. :) |
| 20:15.06 | cladhaire | i suppose i shoudl get to work them |
| 20:15.07 | cladhaire | then |
| 20:15.07 | Jarik | i've poked at Zaviers addon for it, which i like, but i'm a code-tard and cant understand how to fix it for this patch |
| 20:15.09 | Guillotine | I have a druid and a priest, so I'm screwed without praid :/ |
| 20:15.10 | cladhaire | there's SOOO much to do |
| 20:15.12 | cladhaire | phreaky: It'll be added |
| 20:15.14 | cladhaire | at some point |
| 20:15.19 | cladhaire | post it on the googlecode issues list. |
| 20:15.34 | phreaky | cladhaire: googlecde issue list? =) |
| 20:15.46 | Corrodias | the thing is that i'm not finished updating my addons (the ones i use. i don't produce any.) for 2.0 adn the addon sites are still pretty slow. |
| 20:15.51 | Corrodias | so i'm still on wow-vacation |
| 20:16.09 | Scre3m | i'd be happy with a simply praid list that does nothing other than show health and allow you to target |
| 20:16.09 | Cairenn | hey Kirkburn? folks are still screaming for an updated ClearFont, when you gonna accommodate? |
| 20:16.13 | cladhaire | phreaky: If its not here, its liable to get lost: http://code.google.com/p/wow-perfectraid/issues/list |
| 20:16.20 | Kirkburn | Um, in a few mins :P |
| 20:16.32 | phreaky | cladhaire: I'll post it.. :) |
| 20:16.33 | Cairenn | just thought I'd poke ya to remind |
| 20:17.01 | phreaky | never seen that google site before.. =) |
| 20:17.28 | phreaky | It's "New Issue" ? |
| 20:17.32 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 20:17.35 | phreaky | ok :) |
| 20:18.11 | phreaky | Do i need to use the default stuff in the description? Or can i just write something there |
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| 20:18.19 | Cairenn | netcurse: ping |
| 20:18.40 | cladhaire | phreaky: no, just write something |
| 20:19.00 | Jarik | anyone have any advice where to start to learn how to code this stuff well enough to fix a location addon? :) |
| 20:19.11 | phreaky | cladhaire: ok, done .) |
| 20:19.17 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 20:19.26 | cladhaire | i'll ignore it until i'm at a place i can do it. |
| 20:19.40 | phreaky | It became an Type-Defect though.. =/ |
| 20:19.44 | cladhaire | they all do |
| 20:19.48 | cladhaire | that's the good thing about good code |
| 20:19.56 | phreaky | ah okey :) I noticed some were Enhancements =) |
| 20:19.57 | cladhaire | google code, users can't change any params =) |
| 20:20.23 | phreaky | ok :) |
| 20:22.15 | Kaso | Cide around? |
| 20:22.26 | Cide | yep |
| 20:22.41 | Kaso | I just got a tonne of addon_action_blocked by CTRA |
| 20:22.50 | Inside | Wow |
| 20:22.52 | Inside | I got up for an hour |
| 20:22.59 | Inside | and the beta character transfer page is STILL loading. |
| 20:23.03 | Cide | Kaso: doing what? what version? |
| 20:23.50 | Kaso | v1.61, whenever i leave combat, CT_RAGroupX:SetScale() |
| 20:25.22 | Kaso | actually tonnes of functions |
| 20:25.37 | Kaso | at least 20 or 30 each combat enter/leave |
| 20:26.16 | phreaky | andreasg here? author of aguf? |
| 20:26.38 | Cide | Kaso: the event or the popup? |
| 20:26.39 | Kaso | event |
| 20:27.20 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:28.01 | Kaso | fair enough |
| 20:28.25 | Cide | I don't feel like rewriting all of ctra when ctra2 is on the way |
| 20:28.33 | Kaso | true true |
| 20:28.37 | Kaso | at least the lockup on raidrosterupdate are gone, thanks for getting that working :> |
| 20:28.58 | Cide | heh, no problem :) |
| 20:30.49 | Jarik | could i get somone more knowlageable than me to look at an addon and tell me if the changes to it to make itwork for 2.* are going to be a major recode or simple? |
| 20:31.07 | Kaso | What does your addon do? |
| 20:31.12 | Guillotine | Jarik: sure, link to it |
| 20:31.15 | Jarik | location addon |
| 20:31.16 | Jarik | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=30 |
| 20:31.41 | Corrodias | [away] @ going home |
| 20:31.48 | Jarik | its not mine, but he has not updated it in several patches and i am thinkig that if its not to hard i may try and learn how to fix it. |
| 20:32.02 | Guillotine | shouldn't be too big of a fix |
| 20:32.12 | Guillotine | downloading to look at code right now though |
| 20:32.22 | Jarik | thansk |
| 20:32.37 | Scre3m | anyone know of an addon that unlocks most windows, similiar to what bibmod did? |
| 20:33.13 | Guillotine | Jarik: worldofwar doesn't want to stay up. is it hosted anywhere else? |
| 20:33.19 | Jarik | hmm |
| 20:33.41 | Jarik | lemme look around a bit |
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| 20:37.31 | Scre3m | sleep tight, don't let the gutter gnomes bit |
| 20:38.39 | Cairenn | later Guillotine|Nap :) |
| 20:38.48 | Jarik | http://dl.qj.net/World-of-Warcraft-Location-Coordinates-Standalone-PC-Gaming-MMORPG-World-of-Warcraft-UI-Mods/pg/12/fid/959/catid/287 |
| 20:38.53 | Jarik | found it |
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| 20:39.47 | Kemayo | bnovc: What error does ToFu give you? (I know what error KungFu gives, and should really update the version on WoWI...) |
| 20:40.08 | Cairenn | Kemayo: yes, yes you should |
| 20:40.31 | Kemayo | Aw, c'mon, nobody uses it. :P |
| 20:40.52 | Cairenn | some people did :p |
| 20:41.02 | Scre3m | i use ToFu |
| 20:41.11 | Scre3m | used* |
| 20:41.53 | Kemayo | Why'd you stop? Wanted to break my heart? |
| 20:42.16 | Scre3m | because i'm having problems with FuBar in general |
| 20:42.54 | Scre3m | for example, ItemDurabilty is throwing errors |
| 20:44.07 | phreaky | my durability addon works great in fubar.. |
| 20:44.18 | phreaky | FuBar_DurabilityFu |
| 20:44.28 | Scre3m | kk, i'll check it out |
| 20:44.51 | phreaky | do that =) |
| 20:44.57 | Scre3m | do you use the ItemStats one? |
| 20:45.02 | Cairenn | can check out qLoc: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6378-qLoc-coordinatedisplay.html |
| 20:45.42 | Kemayo | Cairenn: There you go, I have bowed to your whims and updated it. |
| 20:45.48 | Cairenn | Kemayo: hehehe |
| 20:46.04 | Tierrie|Work | so phreaky any feedback? |
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| 20:46.23 | Kirov | qLoc ... wasn't that the name of the old "tracking" minimap exploit addon? |
| 20:46.31 | Kemayo | Scre3m: The wonderful thing about most FuBar plugins is that they don't actually require FuBar. :D |
| 20:47.21 | Scre3m | Kemayo, i did not know that |
| 20:47.21 | ckknight | Kemayo, I really wish Blizzard made TOCs better, cause currently they only "require" FuBar if they're LoD. |
| 20:47.24 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: logging in to test it now =) |
| 20:47.28 | ckknight | since FuBar loads em |
| 20:47.36 | ckknight | but they all run without FuBar if the TOC is changed. |
| 20:47.40 | Kemayo | ckknight: Well, yeah. |
| 20:48.22 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: cool let me know so I can go to my controlpanel and watch as my virii spreads across your computer and mails me your login, password, gold and social security number |
| 20:48.57 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: will do! |
| 20:49.09 | phreaky | Your evil =( |
| 20:49.12 | phreaky | I dont like you anymore! |
| 20:49.27 | Jarik | well |
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| 20:49.48 | Jarik | it works, not as prety as the other, but it works. |
| 20:49.54 | Darklin | Tull |
| 20:50.00 | Scre3m | fubar's ckknight lurk in here/ |
| 20:50.02 | Scre3m | ? |
| 20:50.20 | Darklin | *Tuller: Grats on 6.12.8. Being someone prodigious(sp?) with your releases. Hehe. |
| 20:50.27 | ckknight | Scre3m, that sentence needs to be rephrased |
| 20:50.41 | Tierrie|Work | :( its a virii of love |
| 20:50.45 | Tierrie|Work | a bit like STD |
| 20:50.54 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: It's nice.. though i think a hud in the middle of the screen kinda makes the ui look much less minimalistic =) |
| 20:50.55 | Scre3m | Does FuBar's ckknight join this channel? |
| 20:50.55 | Cairenn | rofl! |
| 20:51.09 | xlvii | scre3m, yes. |
| 20:51.13 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: it is more minimalistic when you turn off all the unitframes |
| 20:51.15 | Tierrie|Work | casting bar |
| 20:51.18 | ckknight | Scre3m, I dunno, he doesn't come by here too often anymore |
| 20:51.22 | Scre3m | Fubarr++ |
| 20:51.22 | xlvii | scre3m, here's here. |
| 20:51.27 | Scre3m | lol |
| 20:51.34 | Scre3m | *likes this channel |
| 20:51.36 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: turn off you runitframes, casting bar and try it out for a while |
| 20:51.38 | xlvii | scre3m, you'd be better of asking in #wowace though. |
| 20:51.42 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: hmm.. can i rightklick on users to get the Whisper/Inspect etc.. |
| 20:51.47 | phreaky | in it |
| 20:51.49 | Cairenn | xlvii: why? |
| 20:51.53 | Scre3m | i have no questions, just wanted to give props |
| 20:51.53 | Tierrie|Work | you select them and then right click on their names |
| 20:52.04 | Tierrie|Work | you can't a) duel b) dismisspet |
| 20:52.05 | ckknight | I typically give addon support in #wowace than here |
| 20:52.16 | Tierrie|Work | but those are both known errors because slouken made those two functions secure |
| 20:52.19 | Cairenn | point |
| 20:52.23 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: ah ok.. there it was |
| 20:52.25 | Scre3m | sorry, no support needed at this time, just wanted to thank you for the excellent mod |
| 20:52.27 | Cairenn | this is more author than user |
| 20:52.40 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: The bars it self isn't really my taste though =/ |
| 20:52.55 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: what! from now on you're #2 fan |
| 20:52.58 | Tierrie|Work | not #1 anymore |
| 20:53.00 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: The config looks great though! |
| 20:53.02 | Tierrie|Work | haha |
| 20:53.10 | phreaky | oh noes! |
| 20:53.14 | Tierrie|Work | oh yesh |
| 20:53.19 | Tierrie|Work | numbar too |
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| 20:53.51 | Tierrie|Work | dude try it out for an hour or so make the bars wider :P text larger and stuff |
| 20:53.56 | Tierrie|Work | and turn off your unit frames |
| 20:53.58 | phreaky | I love the way the mana and hp fades down.. |
| 20:54.19 | Tierrie|Work | i turned my hud to scale to 1.0, text at 20 points with 1 pt border |
| 20:54.27 | Tierrie|Work | i didn't do that, Drathal did |
| 20:54.34 | phreaky | okey |
| 20:54.56 | phreaky | But its not ace! If i use it my ui isn't 100% ace anymore =( |
| 20:55.02 | phreaky | I must not love it! |
| 20:55.09 | Tierrie|Work | give in! |
| 20:55.15 | Industrial | hatred, betrayal, despair, chaos, destruction, death |
| 20:55.17 | phreaky | must... not... give... in |
| 20:55.20 | Industrial | oo I like that line |
| 20:55.21 | Tierrie|Work | give in! |
| 20:55.22 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:56.09 | phreaky | hmmmmm.. screw u Tierre i am liking it =( |
| 20:56.24 | Tierrie|Work | wow |
| 20:56.29 | Tierrie|Work | i should try that on women on more often |
| 20:56.32 | Tierrie|Work | hey cairenn |
| 20:56.49 | Tierrie|Work | give in to me cairenn |
| 20:57.03 | Cairenn | baby, you couldn't handle me |
| 20:57.10 | Tierrie|Work | give in |
| 20:57.19 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: Need more layouts! |
| 20:57.20 | phreaky | :) |
| 20:57.25 | phreaky | To fit my ui better =) |
| 20:57.43 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: lol isn't it already configurable? drathal did that too, i didn't do anything to the layout |
| 20:58.17 | Tierrie|Work | all i did so far was add target of target and also the tiny "in combat" icon |
| 20:58.19 | Tierrie|Work | :( |
| 20:58.23 | Tierrie|Work | Cairenn: give in! |
| 20:58.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:58.39 | Tierrie|Work | screw this isn't working i'm gonna get me a samwich |
| 20:58.55 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: hehe.. well it is configurable.. just wanted some more already done layouts ^^ |
| 20:59.03 | phreaky | cause I'm lazy =) |
| 20:59.13 | phreaky | Maybe different bars |
| 20:59.24 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: cool cooL! see this is feedback I can use! *jots down "more layouts"* |
| 20:59.53 | neomantra | lol |
| 20:59.59 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work =P |
| 21:00.10 | Darklin | Tierrie|Work: What are you pimping? dHUD? |
| 21:00.19 | phreaky | Pimp my Hud |
| 21:00.46 | ckknight | Cairenn's like "I am the channel" |
| 21:01.06 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: Guess what, I'm gonna disable my unitframes for a while to test it out =) |
| 21:01.55 | Tierrie|Work | Darklin: yes |
| 21:02.25 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: coolbies! it will force you to focus on the hud instead of glacing on the top left to see the mob's health |
| 21:02.33 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky you're a rogue right? |
| 21:02.55 | Darklin | Tierrie|Work: Does dHUD handle druid shapeshift forms? (i.e. Keep track of the druids mana somwheres. Like druidbar does for the standard UI) |
| 21:02.59 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: No, a mage :) |
| 21:03.11 | phreaky | I actually dont got my unitframes in the top right corner :) |
| 21:03.18 | phreaky | I got it just below where the hud is =) |
| 21:03.25 | phreaky | or well.. not really but almost |
| 21:03.33 | Tierrie|Work | Darklin: honestly i don't have a druid and drathal said he would add it -- so I don't really know atm |
| 21:03.41 | Scre3m | phreaky, what mod do you use for unitframes? |
| 21:03.42 | Cairenn | meh, don't need a hud to do that, just any mod that allows you to have your unit frames (hud or other) elsewhere |
| 21:03.47 | phreaky | Scre3m: none atm :) |
| 21:03.51 | phreaky | Ag_unitframes otherwise |
| 21:03.56 | phreaky | http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ace2uitz6.jpg <- my ui |
| 21:04.01 | Scre3m | how do yo move the unitframes around? |
| 21:04.18 | Tierrie|Work | Darklin: i can check for you but it shoudl be in it iirc |
| 21:04.35 | Cairenn | Scre3m: replacement frames &/or some form of "move anything" type mod |
| 21:04.37 | Tierrie|Work | btw phreaky if you're not regenning and not in combat, the hud goes away |
| 21:04.46 | Tierrie|Work | so if you're in IF, it just vanishes |
| 21:04.53 | Tierrie|Work | brb for real lunch yum yum |
| 21:04.54 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: I want it to be show so i enabld that =) |
| 21:04.59 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: btw.. one strange thing i found =) |
| 21:05.14 | phreaky | I cannot type - stuff to move the hud.. i have to click to get minus and move it down |
| 21:05.40 | Scre3m | phreaky, is that bagnon? or vBagnon? |
| 21:06.14 | Tuller | Scre3m: that's onebag |
| 21:06.37 | Scre3m | oh |
| 21:06.40 | phreaky | OneBag indeed =) |
| 21:07.13 | chuckg | http://awful.smashtech.net/files/72/721c0381b12f70566be766fca2732b40c93a1bca.jpg |
| 21:07.13 | chuckg | Check the gold. |
| 21:07.38 | Darklin | Playing with dhud at the moment. You know what would be cool. If once you zoomed all the way to 1st person the hud bars poped to the sides of the screen instead of staying cenetered |
| 21:08.35 | Inside | um, wow. |
| 21:08.45 | Antiarc | Gold dupe showed up on Mannoroth last night. |
| 21:09.04 | cladhaire | holy crap |
| 21:09.11 | Antiarc | Several million got blown into the economy in short order, then people started laundering huge sums through the AH, and then GMs started sleeping and silencing people left and right. |
| 21:09.32 | Antiarc | Lots of people got their accounts suspended, apparently, including people who sold things for hugely inflated prices on the AH, which got bought out. |
| 21:09.54 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.39 | malreth | when will people learn? |
| 21:10.42 | Antiarc | Probably someone naieve enough to think that currency couldn't be tracked. |
| 21:10.47 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 21:10.56 | malreth | you launder sums of cash like that *sloooowly* |
| 21:11.16 | Antiarc | There was apparently one guy in IF giving away thousands of gold to everyone he could open a trade with. |
| 21:11.16 | Darklin | phreaky: OneBag is working as of 2.0? |
| 21:11.30 | Antiarc | And people just went nutso, likely thinking "I didn't dupe it, I'm fine" |
| 21:11.46 | phreaky | Darklin: yeah |
| 21:11.59 | Darklin | phreaky: k thanks. |
| 21:12.03 | phreaky | Did ppl get banned for reciving duped gold also? |
| 21:12.05 | phreaky | The ones he traded with |
| 21:12.09 | Antiarc | They got suspended at least. |
| 21:12.17 | phreaky | hmm ok |
| 21:12.18 | Antiarc | No word yet if they're permanent bans. |
| 21:12.19 | phreaky | gold removed also i hope |
| 21:12.31 | Antiarc | I suspect that it's a suspension till the GMs can clean up the illegit gold |
| 21:12.34 | phreaky | But wtf, i would accept a trade with 5k gold at anytime |
| 21:12.38 | Antiarc | Then the affected accounts would be unsuspended. |
| 21:12.45 | Antiarc | Likely just done to prevent massive damage to the economy. |
| 21:12.46 | Darklin | It's not listed as working on WoWi |
| 21:12.50 | Darklin | Ah well. Try it anyway |
| 21:13.10 | Antiarc | I would be suspicious as hell if someone offered me 5k gold, but I'd have a hard time saying no. |
| 21:13.17 | Antiarc | With the price of flying mounts in the expansion......yeah. |
| 21:13.28 | Scre3m | how much are they? |
| 21:13.33 | Antiarc | 6k, I think |
| 21:13.35 | Scre3m | no? |
| 21:13.39 | Antiarc | The epic ones anyway. |
| 21:13.41 | phreaky | I'd think someone was just bragging about their gold and maybe trading but mistake.. but. just giving away.. tempting =) |
| 21:13.53 | phreaky | Around 6k for everything yes.. first u have to learn the lower rank of riding.. then the higher.. |
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| 21:14.03 | Scre3m | how does a person aquire 6k gold legitmately? |
| 21:14.11 | phreaky | first rank is like 800g then 5000g then the mount for 180g |
| 21:14.12 | Antiarc | Auction house baroning, mostly. |
| 21:14.15 | Antiarc | Selling raid mats, etc. |
| 21:14.27 | Antiarc | I have about 2k gold myself, legitimately, that I've made from playing the auction house. |
| 21:14.30 | Scre3m | that seems out of reach for most players |
| 21:14.37 | Antiarc | Our raid bank has about 18k from sold raid mats |
| 21:14.41 | phreaky | gold selling sites will have a good time i bet |
| 21:14.55 | Antiarc | Word is that they immediately stopped accepting gold when word of it got out |
| 21:15.02 | Antiarc | But I don't know that for a fact. |
| 21:15.17 | Antiarc | Unless you mean the flying mounts, in which case, yeah, I hear you |
| 21:16.13 | Antiarc | But, gold is a lot more plentiful in BC |
| 21:16.13 | Scre3m | ahhh |
| 21:16.13 | Antiarc | My warrior racked up about 300g just from levelling from 60->64 |
| 21:16.13 | Antiarc | I just looked down and...there it was. |
| 21:16.13 | _aLEX | hi, is there something equivalent to table.setn now ? |
| 21:16.28 | Scre3m | are they adding any better travel alternatives in the expansion? porting, speed buffs, etc? |
| 21:16.53 | Antiarc | Well, there are the flying mounts. Hellfire has two flight points which helps a lot, too. |
| 21:17.26 | Antiarc | Mages can portal to Shattrath, and there are permanent portals from Shattrath to the major Azerothian cities |
| 21:17.37 | Scre3m | permanent portals/ |
| 21:17.38 | Scre3m | ? |
| 21:17.52 | Antiarc | Yeah, just like mage portals that you can click to go to the city of your choice |
| 21:18.00 | Scre3m | excellent |
| 21:18.09 | Scre3m | game needs way more of that sort of thing |
| 21:18.11 | Antiarc | You can't go from IF -> Shattrath, though |
| 21:18.32 | Antiarc | I just bound my hearth in Shattrath, then fly to Shattrath, portal to IF, do my training and AHing, then hearth back to Shattrath. |
| 21:18.33 | Xavalia | Tuller, you there and mind if I message you? |
| 21:18.43 | Tuller | yeah I'm here |
| 21:19.51 | Tuller | Xavalia: feel free to message me |
| 21:20.01 | Xavalia | Tuller, ok am doing that now :) |
| 21:20.26 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: let me know when u get back :) |
| 21:20.33 | Antiarc | http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q122/EldritchEvil/mannohax.jpg - Mannoroth AH last night. |
| 21:20.35 | Qshadowp | hmm, i'm useing MetaMap so i can move the world map, but the problem is is that it allways shows in the middle of the screen |
| 21:20.38 | Antiarc | And stuff was -selling- |
| 21:20.53 | Qshadowp | i tried useing moveanything to move it to show elsewhere, which worked. but after closeing the minimap, it has errors and refuses to open |
| 21:21.03 | Qshadowp | any way to make it spawn in a specific place on the screen? |
| 21:21.10 | Xavalia | Tuller, ok I messaged you |
| 21:22.26 | [Liquidor] | warlock ab with felguards vs mages with elementals = who would win? |
| 21:22.33 | phreaky | Warlocks |
| 21:22.35 | Qshadowp | warlock |
| 21:22.45 | phreaky | felguards > water elemantal imo |
| 21:22.45 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kaelten (n=kaelten@c-68-63-37-246.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 21:22.47 | Qshadowp | also, frost spec sucks. |
| 21:22.47 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:22.53 | Qshadowp | i tried it out on my mage for about 30 minutes |
| 21:23.01 | Qshadowp | then payed 25g to respecc fire, and i used to hate fire. |
| 21:23.02 | Antiarc | Banish the water elemental, work the mage over. |
| 21:23.06 | Antiarc | Warlock wins. |
| 21:23.06 | Qshadowp | frost used to be good :) |
| 21:24.12 | phreaky | lol my gf just got bugged in AB.. she got disconnected after an ab had ended.. when she logged in again she was inside the horde gates where she was disconnected.. and then all of a sudden a new AB started when she was there and she was inside the horde gates with the horeds.. |
| 21:24.12 | phreaky | haha |
| 21:24.42 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 21:24.58 | Scre3m | surprise!! lol |
| 21:25.09 | phreaky | haha they got damn suprised :) |
| 21:25.32 | Jarik | AOE time |
| 21:25.36 | Jarik | take em all out |
| 21:25.37 | Jarik | lol |
| 21:25.45 | phreaky | It looked really funny.. |
| 21:25.46 | Scre3m | that'd be a funny video |
| 21:25.52 | phreaky | She took a SS i think.. let me check :) |
| 21:26.41 | Tuller | Xavalia: I didn't get anything from you? |
| 21:26.42 | Xavalia | Tuller, ermm ok odd |
| 21:26.54 | Xavalia | owh right hold on |
| 21:27.41 | phreaky | check this |
| 21:27.42 | phreaky | http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=abvk2.jpg |
| 21:27.48 | phreaky | NE Priest among Hordes.. gate closed =) |
| 21:28.28 | Scre3m | rofl |
| 21:29.04 | Jarik | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6378-qLoc-coordinatedisplay.html |
| 21:29.24 | Jarik | how hard would it be to change the frames on that to ones like on Zaviers Loc? |
| 21:32.43 | phreaky | Now AB is bugged to hell |
| 21:32.49 | phreaky | 16 allies on 1 AB |
| 21:32.52 | phreaky | :) |
| 21:33.03 | phreaky | gg blizz =) |
| 21:34.07 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:34.18 | phreaky | ah, that is because she got that first bugg |
| 21:34.22 | phreaky | She is still in that one.. =) |
| 21:34.33 | phreaky | Where she logged in when she was disconnected :) |
| 21:40.38 | Darklin | phreaky: What minimap mod are you using? |
| 21:40.48 | phreaky | SimpleMinimap i think :) |
| 21:40.50 | phreaky | It's great! |
| 21:40.59 | Darklin | nice |
| 21:41.13 | phreaky | www.wowace.com/files/simpleMinimap |
| 21:41.15 | phreaky | try that urk |
| 21:41.16 | phreaky | url |
| 21:41.39 | Scre3m | what does it do? |
| 21:42.27 | phreaky | It can do much, remove buttons, change shape of minimap etc |
| 21:42.53 | *** join/#wowi-lounge SP|Sorren` (n=astrayca@adsl-75-26-175-54.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:43.22 | Darklin | hrm. it's listing it as incompatable |
| 21:43.55 | phreaky | It's not .. not the latest version |
| 21:44.07 | phreaky | let me check |
| 21:44.13 | phreaky | one sec |
| 21:44.22 | phreaky | http://www.wowace.com/files/simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap-r19330.zip |
| 21:44.31 | phreaky | I'm using that one |
| 21:44.48 | Darklin | Helps to download the right version. Heh. |
| 21:44.55 | phreaky | I bet it does! :) |
| 21:47.02 | Industrial | its friday and the sites are still getting such heavy load |
| 21:47.11 | Industrial | blizz should pay for it since they are the cause - lol |
| 21:47.22 | Neuro_Medivh | Not trying to start a fight or anything, but that simpleMinimap, is it supposed to not have libs? |
| 21:47.24 | Industrial | bet the hosting companies arent liking it :> |
| 21:47.25 | Scre3m | *agrees |
| 21:47.32 | a-stray-cat | anyone here have a rogue? |
| 21:47.37 | phreaky | I got a rogue alt |
| 21:47.38 | phreaky | =) |
| 21:47.43 | Scre3m | i have a 60 rogue, Screem, on Thrall |
| 21:47.47 | Darklin | Now it's tossing some error about needing an AceLibrary |
| 21:47.52 | Industrial | Neuro_Medivh: eh? check the toc |
| 21:47.56 | a-stray-cat | can you test something for me? :p |
| 21:48.10 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm looking at that file, but the lib directory is empty |
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| 21:48.19 | phreaky | a-stray-cat: unless it's something advanced.. sure |
| 21:48.20 | phreaky | =) |
| 21:48.25 | phreaky | It's not specced or anything.. |
| 21:48.29 | Darklin | Right, because apparenty they forgot to put the libs into the zip file... |
| 21:48.31 | Darklin | Nice |
| 21:48.36 | a-stray-cat | basically i need testing on the tracking of rogue skills for my mod |
| 21:48.41 | phreaky | Darklin: wich libs do u need? |
| 21:48.47 | a-stray-cat | i think i may have found the problem for why skills based on combo points weren't showing up. |
| 21:49.04 | phreaky | Darklin: All needed libs should be at www.wowfiles.com/files =) |
| 21:49.50 | Barbanus | noooo wowi died :( |
| 21:50.12 | Darklin | WoWAce just died too. |
| 21:50.20 | Industrial | was about to say |
| 21:50.21 | Cairenn | yeah ... we just got the word |
| 21:50.27 | Industrial | what word? |
| 21:50.30 | Cairenn | datacenter is having network issues |
| 21:50.40 | Industrial | see? thought so. |
| 21:50.41 | Cairenn | just what we needed /sigh |
| 21:50.46 | [Cu]Werik | :( |
| 21:50.51 | Barbanus | lol |
| 21:50.53 | Barbanus | yea |
| 21:50.53 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, do all the big sites run from the same place? =) |
| 21:51.00 | Cairenn | I mean, LITERALLY just got the word |
| 21:51.27 | *** join/#wowi-lounge icesnk (n=IceSnk@c925be57.virtua.com.br) |
| 21:51.28 | Cairenn | can't hit their home page |
| 21:51.42 | Industrial | Cairenn: put "BUGGER OFF USERS" on the homepage and I think people will understand :p |
| 21:51.44 | phreaky | oh.. is it a serious problem? |
| 21:51.49 | Barbanus | Cairenn, well I was downloading something ... and it stopped |
| 21:51.56 | Barbanus | So yea, it *just* happened |
| 21:52.21 | phreaky | phew i got all of my addons updated just a few min ago :) |
| 21:52.27 | phreaky | I'll be fine for a little while |
| 21:52.33 | Cairenn | yup, "server not found" trying to hit their home page, datacenter is down |
| 21:52.45 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh... embedded libraries don't work when they aren't embedded |
| 21:52.46 | Cairenn | we're dead in the water and not a f'ing thing we can do about it |
| 21:53.01 | Barbanus | Cairenn, yep. |
| 21:53.02 | Industrial | Neuro_Medivh: now is not the time. |
| 21:53.21 | Neuro_Medivh | for what? |
| 21:53.31 | Industrial | whining about addons :P |
| 21:53.44 | Neuro_Medivh | Ah, then when would be? |
| 21:53.47 | Industrial | Anyway, werent there people with mirrors up? Could toss those in the topic |
| 21:54.00 | Industrial | Neuro_Medivh: when people can actually download the addons again? |
| 21:54.07 | Cairenn | easy guys |
| 21:54.12 | Industrial | sure :p |
| 21:54.28 | phreaky | RIP Wowace.com |
| 21:54.34 | Cairenn | same center |
| 21:54.55 | Barbanus | what datacenet? |
| 21:55.00 | Barbanus | datacenter* |
| 21:55.09 | Industrial | guess you could count this as a massive ddos xD |
| 21:55.55 | Cairenn | we've been able to struggle through everything else, but this one is completely out of our hands, not a damn thing we can do about it this time, we have to wait until they get back |
| 21:56.18 | phreaky | hmm.. wowace.com/files is working ? |
| 21:56.21 | Barbanus | Cairenn, good news tho |
| 21:56.25 | phreaky | And it's reloading FAST :) |
| 21:56.28 | Barbanus | It will give the servers a rest |
| 21:56.34 | Cairenn | Barbanus: heh |
| 21:58.08 | Barbanus | looks like its back |
| 21:58.32 | Cairenn | heh, I'm getting this conversation in 2 different channels and in an IM |
| 21:58.45 | Barbanus | haha |
| 21:58.49 | Cairenn | but yes, it seems it's back already *crosses fingers* |
| 21:59.08 | phreaky | It's fast! :) |
| 21:59.15 | phreaky | Havent seen it load this fast since before the patch :) |
| 21:59.20 | Josh_Borke | talk to me cairenn! |
| 21:59.26 | Cairenn | Josh_Borke: about? |
| 22:00.05 | Barbanus | See, servers just needed a break |
| 22:00.14 | [Cu]Werik | Cairenn, did you see the new trailer of 300? |
| 22:00.24 | Cairenn | [Cu]Werik: nope, got a link handy? |
| 22:00.25 | [Cu]Werik | I'm totally offtopic, but I'm good at it |
| 22:00.34 | Hexarobi | http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1529799&sdm=web&qtw=480&qth=300 |
| 22:00.39 | Cairenn | [Cu]Werik: O/T is allowed :) |
| 22:00.39 | [Cu]Werik | http://imdb.com/title/tt0416449/trailers |
| 22:00.57 | [Cu]Werik | I have it in the background with looping since hours now:) |
| 22:01.11 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, that the trailer with the techno soundtrack? |
| 22:01.22 | [Cu]Werik | It is just what a comic needs |
| 22:01.47 | Josh_Borke | Cairenn: hehe, just kidding :-) |
| 22:01.51 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:02.00 | Josh_Borke | ugh, there's the fiancee |
| 22:02.05 | [Cu]Werik | Oh btw, I was trying to fix your account Neuro_Medivh |
| 22:02.10 | [Cu]Werik | It got worse |
| 22:02.12 | [Cu]Werik | :-P |
| 22:02.43 | phreaky | Did mine get screwed up also? =P |
| 22:02.57 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 22:03.14 | Neuro_Medivh | you can just delete it if you need to |
| 22:03.17 | Neuro_Medivh | and I'll remake it |
| 22:04.36 | [Cu]Werik | I didnt hurt that one phreaky:P |
| 22:04.43 | phreaky | hehe |
| 22:05.18 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: wake up! |
| 22:05.19 | phreaky | :) |
| 22:06.01 | Kirkburn | Damn, I thought I was going to get an excuse for taking longer to update *sigh* =) |
| 22:06.46 | Kaso | iirc IsShiftKeyDown changed didnt it? |
| 22:07.29 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, Werik, that's a neat trailer, even if a bit anachronistic |
| 22:07.51 | [Cu]Werik | I have no idea what anarchronistic means, but it is neat indeed >:) |
| 22:08.11 | Neuro_Medivh | anachronistic means something out of time or place |
| 22:08.15 | Neuro_Medivh | mainly time |
| 22:08.40 | Scre3m | like rotary dial phones |
| 22:09.14 | Neuro_Medivh | Kind of like that movie "A Knight's Tale" where they started dancing to rock music or whatever |
| 22:10.00 | phreaky | oh god i hated that =) |
| 22:10.44 | a-stray-cat | phreaky: mind testing rogues skills out for me? |
| 22:11.19 | phreaky | a-stray-cat: tell me in private exactly what i should test =) |
| 22:12.51 | malreth | lawlz... i'm screaming at walls... |
| 22:12.55 | malreth | :( |
| 22:13.02 | malreth | that actually makes me a little sad |
| 22:13.27 | malreth | kinda like a clown that laughs on the outside, but on the inside he has diarrhea. |
| 22:13.54 | Industrial | take some pills it will go over |
| 22:13.58 | Industrial | next. |
| 22:14.05 | malreth | ^_^ |
| 22:14.24 | Industrial | (the diarrhea too) |
| 22:14.25 | malreth | Industrial, no matter what the other channel regulars say, you are an awesome guy. |
| 22:14.47 | Industrial | :o! |
| 22:14.50 | malreth | :) |
| 22:14.57 | Industrial | *blush* |
| 22:16.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge cogwheel (n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com) |
| 22:16.45 | Industrial | and then it exploded right in my face |
| 22:17.30 | malreth | you know, some bacon would rectify that situation, Id |
| 22:18.02 | Industrial | ok it was funnier on bash.org :( |
| 22:18.32 | Industrial | http://bash.org/?207373 |
| 22:19.01 | malreth | LOL! |
| 22:19.43 | Tierrie|Work | hi! |
| 22:19.47 | Tierrie|Work | i was at lunch |
| 22:19.48 | Tierrie|Work | yum yum |
| 22:19.54 | malreth | really? are you a girl? |
| 22:20.11 | Tierrie|Work | no so therefore you shouldn't care |
| 22:20.15 | Tierrie|Work | unless you are |
| 22:20.17 | Tierrie|Work | then yay! |
| 22:20.18 | malreth | aw... |
| 22:20.19 | Tierrie|Work | attention! |
| 22:20.41 | Kirkburn | Okay, gonna upload the cut down (single font) version of ClearFont v20000-1 to my website - can people give it the once over before I upload it to the UI sites? |
| 22:21.00 | Kirkburn | Link is: http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/ClearFont v20000-1 (single font).zip |
| 22:21.22 | Industrial | ## Version: v20000-Beta 1 |
| 22:21.23 | Industrial | ? |
| 22:21.24 | Industrial | :p |
| 22:21.49 | Kirkburn | Um, no :) |
| 22:22.07 | Industrial | ah, thats my version :> thought it was that |
| 22:22.22 | Kirkburn | Gonna upload the big one (10meg) to the UI sites as the main and put the cut down one as a plug-in/side version |
| 22:22.29 | Kirkburn | Ah, no this is different :) |
| 22:22.43 | Kirkburn | *Importantly* get rid of the !ClearFont folder first! |
| 22:23.07 | axxo | don't use spaces in filenames |
| 22:23.09 | axxo | make baby jesus cry |
| 22:23.34 | Kirkburn | Baby Jesus needs to live in the real world =) |
| 22:23.55 | malreth | baby jesus can QQ MOR! |
| 22:24.04 | malreth | oh shit. |
| 22:24.10 | malreth | now i'm really going to hell |
| 22:24.20 | Kirkburn | I've added underscores to the versions for upload :P |
| 22:24.28 | Kirkburn | Jesus wasn't even his actual name |
| 22:24.28 | malreth | only tom cruise can save my eternal soul now |
| 22:24.30 | Kaso | Whats the news on this White Enchant buissnes, is it here for good? |
| 22:24.38 | malreth | PRAIZE XENU! |
| 22:25.18 | Kirkburn | (i am serious when I say Jesus wasn't his name at the time, it's a 'corruption' of it) |
| 22:25.28 | a-stray-cat | i thought xenu was the bad guy |
| 22:26.02 | Industrial | yeah his reel name was Jebus |
| 22:26.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Inside (n=nowhere@en34.ips.PaulBunyan.net) |
| 22:27.02 | Kirkburn | ... or Yeshua, whichever floats your boat |
| 22:27.11 | Neuro_Medivh | please tell me we're not gonna start talking religion |
| 22:27.38 | Neuro_Medivh | cause then I'll have to expound upon my Unified Paranormal Religion theory |
| 22:27.44 | Tierrie|Work | dude |
| 22:27.44 | Kirkburn | I'm not, I'm talking about a guy who's name people have changed ... |
| 22:27.53 | Tierrie|Work | that is at odds with my Giant Spaggheti Monster Religion |
| 22:28.00 | Industrial | oh please tell me Neuro_Medivh |
| 22:28.05 | Tierrie|Work | i'll tell you |
| 22:28.15 | Tierrie|Work | you see, we believe that God is a Giant Spaggheti Monster |
| 22:28.24 | Kirkburn | <-- also a Pastafarian |
| 22:28.30 | Tierrie|Work | woot! |
| 22:28.46 | Tierrie|Work | do you belive in Discordian theology too? |
| 22:29.09 | Kirkburn | Well, I do believe Pastafarianism must be taught in schools to show the 'other side' to the evil that is Darwinism! |
| 22:29.20 | Industrial | According to wikipedia I am agnost |
| 22:29.46 | Industrial | religion is unimportant to my existance, therefore a waste of time for me |
| 22:29.50 | Neuro_Medivh | Industrial, heheh, actually I do have a theory about it. It explains a large amount of paranormal phenomenon as well as give a rational explanation for all afterlife and religions |
| 22:29.57 | Kirkburn | Tierrie|Work, have *you* been touched by His Noodly Appendage? |
| 22:30.11 | Tain | What'd the athiest say when he met God at the Pearly Gates? |
| 22:30.14 | Neuro_Medivh | I could go for some pasta actually |
| 22:30.15 | Tain | Well I'll be damned. |
| 22:30.19 | Industrial | lol. |
| 22:30.37 | pastamancer | Neuro_Medivh: say what? |
| 22:30.42 | Neuro_Medivh | The dyslexic atheist refused to believe in a dog |
| 22:30.42 | Kirkburn | Soo, anyone downloading the ClearFont update to test yet? :) |
| 22:31.00 | malreth | no... |
| 22:31.09 | Kaso | what changed? |
| 22:31.09 | Industrial | Kirkburn: it worked fine |
| 22:31.26 | Industrial | Kirkburn: and I like the fat font :P |
| 22:32.04 | Tierrie|Work | yes i have also been touched by the goddess Eris |
| 22:32.19 | Tierrie|Work | or it could have been someone else, it was dark |
| 22:32.22 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:32.27 | Kirkburn | Industrial, cool |
| 22:33.09 | Tain | Word to Kallisti. |
| 22:34.01 | Industrial | Some people need proof to believe, some people dont. I dont need proof to not believe, I just dont care. |
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| 22:34.59 | Industrial | oh noes it is Kronus, Osagasu's evil alter ego |
| 22:35.03 | Industrial | dun dun DUNN |
| 22:35.28 | Kirkburn | My alter ego is Krasus, you knows it |
| 22:37.30 | Tierrie|Work | i'm awake i'm awake! |
| 22:37.47 | phreaky | !!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:37.53 | Tierrie|Work | holla at chu |
| 22:37.59 | phreaky | Read query plz =) |
| 22:38.11 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dhudcg1.jpg !!! :D |
| 22:38.16 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky i use bitchx and there's no query thing :( |
| 22:38.20 | phreaky | oh i see .. |
| 22:38.29 | phreaky | hmm, there is querys in that isnt it? =) |
| 22:38.37 | Tierrie|Work | well yes but it scrolls with the rest of the chat |
| 22:38.44 | Tierrie|Work | lol cute image |
| 22:38.45 | Tierrie|Work | <3 |
| 22:38.47 | phreaky | You got everything in 1 window? =) |
| 22:38.55 | Tierrie|Work | that's bitchx for ya :( |
| 22:39.05 | Industrial | *cough* irssi *cough* |
| 22:39.17 | phreaky | irssi ftw |
| 22:39.24 | Tierrie|Work | you should bump your main target up to 20 points |
| 22:39.35 | Industrial | bitchx has cool logos tho :p |
| 22:39.55 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky i also haven't registered this nick so I can't send privmsgs :( |
| 22:39.58 | phreaky | btw one more thing Tierrie|Work, how do i target myself with that dhud? =) |
| 22:40.04 | Tierrie|Work | f1 usually |
| 22:40.08 | phreaky | Bound to other stuff |
| 22:40.10 | phreaky | Mount on F1 =) |
| 22:40.19 | phreaky | Need to be able to press my self to get me targeted :) |
| 22:40.24 | cogwheel | malreth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=43425211&postId=432615273&sid=1#0 (see the last macro command suggestion) |
| 22:40.35 | Guillotine | why would you need that as a mage? just enable auto-self-cast :P |
| 22:40.37 | Tierrie|Work | truf there's no frame to click to target yourself |
| 22:40.38 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: also, did u get my private msg even though u cannot answer? |
| 22:40.44 | malreth | YES! |
| 22:40.44 | Tierrie|Work | yes i got the priv msgs |
| 22:41.02 | Kirkburn | Given the lack of "zomg, you brokzor my UI wiv ur crappy upd8, you bastard", I think I'll start updating the UI sites :P |
| 22:41.07 | Tierrie|Work | i will have to work on that +/- thing I have always clicked on the buttons, but i will try typing in text toinght |
| 22:41.09 | phreaky | Maybe i dont target my self often, but still i want to be able to do it without making a macro for it or typing /target <my name> |
| 22:41.24 | malreth | Kirkburn... |
| 22:41.25 | Tierrie|Work | typically if i don't have a button bound i can click myself |
| 22:41.36 | Kirkburn | malreth... |
| 22:41.42 | phreaky | Well, maybe it's just an issue for me.. but.. can it be done? =) |
| 22:41.45 | malreth | you brok my ui you batard |
| 22:41.50 | malreth | :D |
| 22:42.05 | malreth | ~wiki batard |
| 22:42.17 | malreth | pfft... |
| 22:42.23 | Kirkburn | har-de-har-har |
| 22:42.24 | malreth | stupid wiki |
| 22:42.35 | Kirkburn | Stoopid malreth |
| 22:42.42 | malreth | aaaaarrrg! |
| 22:42.48 | malreth | I'll get youuuu! |
| 22:43.05 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: I would consider using only your hud if i can target my self by pressing my healthbar or something in the hud =) |
| 22:43.06 | Guillotine | cogwheel: can you add to suggestions that if you get the return "a stronger spell is already active" that castsequence should move to the next one? It makes buff macros much better and I can't think of any possible exploits |
| 22:43.43 | cogwheel | Guillotine: i'm pretty sure it's not meant to work that way... the /castsequence is supposed to be simplistic... |
| 22:43.43 | Industrial | phreaky: your character is 5 pixels away |
| 22:43.47 | Industrial | 50* |
| 22:44.07 | Tierrie|Work | oh that's a good suggestion phreaky |
| 22:44.16 | phreaky | Well, yes but i usally target my self to test unitframes or huds etc :) |
| 22:44.20 | cogwheel | i.e. it's supposed to be dumb |
| 22:44.34 | Tierrie|Work | i'll put that down todo |
| 22:44.36 | phreaky | And then i always get target of target for as long as i want to change stuff etc :) |
| 22:44.55 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: though it may not be easy, iirc targetting is a secureframe issue |
| 22:44.57 | Guillotine | I know, but it could be even dumner and think that a failed cast due to a stronger spell being active is a success |
| 22:45.10 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: oh =/ |
| 22:45.14 | Tierrie|Work | you can't/shouldn't be able to click on those because of in combat issues with targetting logic |
| 22:45.19 | Tierrie|Work | i don't use secureframes iirc |
| 22:46.07 | cogwheel | Actually, it shouldn't be stopping in the first place, imo... You can get a true sequence by using state headers... |
| 22:46.31 | Tierrie|Work | cogwheel: the entire frame is insecure because its non interactive |
| 22:46.39 | Tierrie|Work | maybe i can create a secure frame *ponder* |
| 22:46.56 | Tierrie|Work | let me rephrase, the entire frame is insecure because there's no need for interaction |
| 22:47.12 | Guillotine | cogwheel: I agree |
| 22:47.23 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: what action bars are those? |
| 22:47.24 | cogwheel | Tierrie|Work: did you mean to say that to me? I was talking to Guillotine ... :P |
| 22:47.30 | Tierrie|Work | oh |
| 22:47.31 | Tierrie|Work | nvm! |
| 22:47.35 | Guillotine | but the way it is, the "stronger spell is active" error only ruins buff sequences anyway |
| 22:47.48 | Guillotine | and that you could even due without secure headers the old way |
| 22:47.50 | malreth | Well, I've caused enough damage on the forums for one day |
| 22:48.46 | malreth | i composed enough arguments |
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| 22:49.16 | malreth | and managed to squeeze out a few good discussions from a couple complainers |
| 22:49.25 | malreth | not bad |
| 22:50.35 | malreth | gonna go hunt some food... later all |
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| 23:00.40 | phreaky | Tierrie|Work: =) |
| 23:00.48 | phreaky | Did u like my screenshot? =P |
| 23:01.25 | phreaky | Am i back to #1? =) |
| 23:03.19 | nevcairiel | did anyone else just happen to drop from tempest keep/beta ? |
| 23:04.44 | Kirkburn | My life for aui-, uh, I mean, faster upload speeds! |
| 23:05.36 | Kirkburn | (WoWI hates me for making such a large file size) |
| 23:06.01 | Guillotine | I think wowi download servers are down :/ can anybody else access any actual files? |
| 23:06.14 | phreaky | url? |
| 23:07.14 | Kirkburn | woot, failed again >< |
| 23:07.44 | Kirkburn | Poke Cairenn |
| 23:08.04 | Guillotine | ~poke Cairenn |
| 23:08.16 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn, pokes Cairenn repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 23:08.17 | Guillotine | purl is real lazy today :( |
| 23:08.32 | Kirkburn | It's have WoW withdrawal symptoms |
| 23:08.36 | Guillotine | ~<3 |
| 23:08.38 | purl | [<3] not >4 |
| 23:09.52 | Kirkburn | Hehe, great newspaper gag at the start of American Dad :P "Economy turns corner, falls down stairs" |
| 23:09.52 | a-stray-cat | when can you first poll player talents |
| 23:09.55 | a-stray-cat | PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 23:10.00 | Tierrie|Work | phreaky: yes! nifty screenie :) |
| 23:10.14 | Tierrie|Work | though i would have made the player name bigger but that's just me |
| 23:10.28 | phreaky | I'll fix that later, helping a-stray-cat with his addon now =) |
| 23:11.07 | a-stray-cat | <3 |
| 23:11.26 | phreaky | :D |
| 23:17.10 | Jarik | ok i give up, trying to mix code between addons to get what i want is a bad idea today. |
| 23:17.24 | Jarik | lol |
| 23:18.06 | Neuro_Medivh | I tried that once, tried mixing a chocolate cake recipe with one for Salisbury Steak. Didn't turn out like I planned |
| 23:18.31 | phreaky | hahaha |
| 23:19.11 | Jarik | well, at least you got a result, i got the efect of WoW looking at me like i was diseased and nothing happening. |
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| 23:20.43 | phreaky | What is the addon you want working ? =) |
| 23:20.49 | phreaky | and what does it do =) |
| 23:21.00 | Jarik | well spent most of hte day on a quest for a good location addon |
| 23:21.06 | Jarik | i was useing Zaviers Loc |
| 23:21.11 | Jarik | but it broke at hte patch |
| 23:21.12 | phreaky | You want it on the map or ? |
| 23:21.21 | phreaky | or in a window that u always see? |
| 23:21.23 | Jarik | qLoc works, but it lacks the estetic feels i like |
| 23:21.29 | Jarik | always seen |
| 23:21.36 | phreaky | SimpleMinimap got an option for that =) |
| 23:21.44 | Jarik | so i was trying to bodge the two together |
| 23:21.56 | Neuro_Medivh | except simpleminimap doesn't work |
| 23:22.03 | phreaky | It works great Neuro =) |
| 23:22.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Actually, no. It's missing all the libs |
| 23:22.25 | phreaky | uhm, everything works in it.. like a charm :) |
| 23:22.43 | phreaky | Maybe i downloaded some missing lib |
| 23:23.00 | phreaky | Since it works for me :) flawless :) all settings I've tried so far.. |
| 23:23.03 | Jarik | anywho, i proved to myself that i still can't code worth a darn. |
| 23:23.22 | Wobin | Jarik: Cartographer? |
| 23:23.27 | Jarik | heh |
| 23:23.28 | Neuro_Medivh | phreaky, I loaded it up, with a completely clean install, and it gave me "Missing AceLibrary" errors |
| 23:23.38 | Jarik | to much stuff, all i need is a frame with x/y |
| 23:23.47 | phreaky | Neuro_Medivh: hmm strange.. i must have that library downloaded seperatly then =) |
| 23:24.17 | Jarik | qLoc works, was just trying to get the larger disp... |
| 23:24.18 | Jarik | hmm |
| 23:24.33 | Neuro_Medivh | I tried loading 2 seperate ace mods today. neither worked. |
| 23:24.34 | Jarik | derp'a'der |
| 23:24.44 | phreaky | Neuro_Medivh: it works for my friends also it seems :) since i gave it to them.. are u sure u downloaded the latest version |
| 23:24.52 | phreaky | rev 19330 |
| 23:24.55 | Neuro_Medivh | Yes |
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| 23:25.08 | Neuro_Medivh | it's on my hard drive. It has an empty libs directory |
| 23:25.19 | phreaky | hmm |
| 23:25.22 | phreaky | in the folder? |
| 23:26.05 | Neuro_Medivh | yes |
| 23:26.06 | phreaky | it has no lib folder for me |
| 23:26.06 | phreaky | =) |
| 23:26.07 | phreaky | Maybe you installed it over an old version from before the patch or something that messed it up? |
| 23:26.07 | Neuro_Medivh | No |
| 23:26.07 | Neuro_Medivh | this is a 100% fresh install of WoW |
| 23:26.08 | phreaky | I dont even have a lib directory in it =) |
| 23:26.16 | Neuro_Medivh | I had to reinstall wow cause my patch messed up |
| 23:26.21 | phreaky | okey |
| 23:26.30 | phreaky | Well i know for sure it works anyway =) |
| 23:26.41 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm sure you have the library from a different ace mod |
| 23:26.52 | phreaky | whats the name of the lib missing? |
| 23:26.54 | phreaky | I can check |
| 23:27.11 | Neuro_Medivh | but according to ckknight and all the other Ace fanatics, I (the end user) should never have to worry about Ace |
| 23:27.31 | Neuro_Medivh | phreaky, the error I got was Missing AceLibrary |
| 23:27.42 | Neuro_Medivh | addon don't work, I delete it and move on |
| 23:28.00 | phreaky | Might lib be included in Ace2 ? |
| 23:28.08 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm sure it is |
| 23:28.14 | phreaky | Why dont u download that then? =) |
| 23:28.20 | JoshBorke | Neuro_Medivh: you shouldn't. addon authors are supposed to include all files they need with the addon |
| 23:28.26 | Neuro_Medivh | JoshBorke, I realize that |
| 23:28.31 | Neuro_Medivh | but they don't |
| 23:29.03 | JoshBorke | in which case people should let the authors know :) |
| 23:29.21 | Neuro_Medivh | Josh, I have no idea who made Simpleminimap or I would |
| 23:29.28 | phreaky | It's not always easy to get in touch with the authors |
| 23:29.29 | Wobin | Neuro_Medivh: if you have an empty libs folder, you're not doing it right =P |
| 23:29.38 | Neuro_Medivh | Wobin, GO DOWNLOAD THE DAMN THING |
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| 23:29.40 | phreaky | arJUna orsomething is the auth it seems |
| 23:29.42 | Wobin | Link? |
| 23:29.50 | phreaky | wowace.com/files/simpleMinimap |
| 23:29.51 | phreaky | i think |
| 23:29.51 | phreaky | =) |
| 23:30.13 | Wobin | hm, that may have to do with recent hammering of the server making the zipscript fall over |
| 23:30.23 | Neuro_Medivh | www.wowace.com/files/simpleMinimap |
| 23:30.38 | JoshBorke | Neuro_Medivh: don't download from there |
| 23:30.49 | Wobin | So, apologies if that has happened, but please don't paint every single Ace addon with that brush |
| 23:30.53 | JoshBorke | they use a script to produce those files |
| 23:31.44 | JoshBorke | and said script is currently broken |
| 23:31.46 | Wobin | hehe, I cna't even connect to the server atm |
| 23:32.23 | Neuro_Medivh | Wobin, I'm currently 0-7 on Ace2 addons |
| 23:32.23 | Wobin | well.. |
| 23:32.23 | Wobin | if you decided to start now |
| 23:32.26 | Wobin | and while the script was broken |
| 23:32.30 | Wobin | I don't blame you =P |
| 23:32.36 | Neuro_Medivh | No, I first tried back in TBC beta |
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| 23:32.41 | JoshBorke | Neuro_Medivh: i've got some Ace addons I would recommend |
| 23:32.51 | Neuro_Medivh | Josh, I'm sure there are some fine ones |
| 23:32.57 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, I know there are |
| 23:33.03 | JoshBorke | well, i have fully working ace addons |
| 23:33.12 | Neuro_Medivh | but my contention is the same it's ever been |
| 23:33.20 | Neuro_Medivh | installing Ace addons is HELL on the end user |
| 23:33.39 | JoshBorke | i've never had problems |
| 23:33.43 | Neuro_Medivh | because when one thing goes wrong, it causes a cascade failure |
| 23:33.59 | Wobin | Not really |
| 23:34.20 | Wobin | How does it cascade? |
| 23:34.41 | Neuro_Medivh | Well, for example, you say the zip script is flawed |
| 23:34.59 | Neuro_Medivh | but wowace is the central repository for most ace addons |
| 23:35.02 | Wobin | yes, but that has nothing to do with Ace addons |
| 23:35.26 | Neuro_Medivh | It does when the zip is the primary source of ace addons. |
| 23:35.31 | Wobin | That's like saying "Oh, WoWi is being hammered by users, I can't load pages, therefore WoWI has BROKEN MY ADDONS |
| 23:35.56 | JoshBorke | actually Neuro_Medivh, the wowace dev team has said that the wowace website should not be used as a primary source of distribution |
| 23:36.00 | Wobin | Most people who use Ace addons casually grab them from WOWi |
| 23:36.13 | Wobin | Most people who use more than one Ace Addon, use WAU |
| 23:36.29 | Neuro_Medivh | dunno what wau is |
| 23:36.29 | JoshBorke | and then you have people like me who update himself |
| 23:36.36 | Wobin | We've never advertised the wowace site as the primary distribution site |
| 23:36.44 | Wobin | We simply don't have the server power to support it |
| 23:37.04 | Wobin | WinAceUpdater, have a look at it on Sourceforge |
| 23:37.15 | JoshBorke | i stand by don't use it |
| 23:37.16 | Wobin | Granted, it's a thirdparty, but it's authentic |
| 23:37.20 | JoshBorke | and say just use WoWI |
| 23:37.25 | Wobin | Exactly |
| 23:37.39 | Wobin | If you want bleeding edge, use wowace and the SVN |
| 23:37.47 | Wobin | But then... you might have to bleed =P |
| 23:37.58 | Wobin | If you want addons that Just Work, grab them from WoWi |
| 23:38.12 | Wobin | where you can be assured that they -will- work despite outside influences |
| 23:39.04 | Neuro_Medivh | except they aren't there |
| 23:39.18 | Scre3m | when i load fubar and fu_durability, i get this error: "cannot find a library instance of Gratuity-2.0" |
| 23:39.42 | Wobin | Scre3m: Have you been doing what Neuro_Medivh has been? =P |
| 23:39.50 | a-stray-cat | ooo, curse is based on django? |
| 23:40.03 | Scre3m | i hadn't been following the conversation, sorry |
| 23:40.29 | Wobin | read up |
| 23:41.00 | Wobin | Neuro_Medivh: If you want bleeding edge stuff (ie, ones that haven't been released to the major addon websites, you sometimes have to bleed =P) |
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| 23:43.05 | Wobin | As for a solution to your woes, I suggest waiting a bit for the zipfile to be fixed, or if you want to expend the effort, get the libraries yourself |
| 23:43.55 | Scre3m | how do you get the libraries? |
| 23:43.57 | Kirkburn | (or get the libraries from an older version which included the libs, though that can be slightly unreliable) |
| 23:44.05 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, I'm fine. I can just find non-Ace equivilents. I just get tired of being told how much of a magic bullet Ace is, but then they don't ever seem to work for me |
| 23:44.08 | Wobin | Have a look in the toc |
| 23:44.22 | Wobin | 'Ace' is never a magic bullet |
| 23:44.26 | Wobin | Ace is a framework =P |
| 23:44.37 | Wobin | You're not even complaining about Ace |
| 23:44.40 | Cide | Wobin: some of the developers make it out to be :) |
| 23:44.47 | Wobin | Cide: Feh. |
| 23:44.55 | JoshBorke | i'm not a big fan of the wowace community. a little too ace gung-ho for me. but you can't say that it is now difficult to get working when you get it from a valid distribution source |
| 23:44.56 | Cide | (don't take that as a blanket statement, for the record) |
| 23:44.57 | Wobin | Cide: Ace is a state of mind =P |
| 23:45.07 | Cide | Wobin: no it's not |
| 23:45.11 | Wobin | It is to me |
| 23:45.46 | Kirkburn | I have been asked to Ace-up ClearFont before :P |
| 23:45.46 | Kirkburn | (not by an Ace dev, though!) |
| 23:45.46 | Wobin | Kirkburn: That's just stupid |
| 23:45.47 | Cairenn | sorry, been afk |
| 23:45.47 | Tain | Ace was on the grassy gnoll. |
| 23:45.47 | Cide | Wobin: I imagine you're implying that the state of mind is "low memory usage"? |
| 23:45.47 | Wobin | And good coding |
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| 23:45.59 | Tain | And beer. |
| 23:46.00 | Wobin | (and by good coding, I mean easy to read/comprehend/etc) |
| 23:46.03 | Wobin | And beer |
| 23:46.04 | Cide | but I can see where this is leading, so let's not go into this discussion for the fiftyeleventh time |
| 23:46.20 | Kirkburn | Indeed. |
| 23:46.21 | Tain | What do you have against beer? |
| 23:46.23 | Neuro_Medivh | Wobin, there's an attitude that "If your mod isn't Ace, it's not good" |
| 23:46.28 | Wobin | Nope |
| 23:46.37 | Neuro_Medivh | and it's propagated by many Ace developers |
| 23:46.43 | Kirkburn | Let's not start generalising either |
| 23:46.43 | Tain | That's a lie, Neuro_Medivh |
| 23:46.55 | Tain | If the Ace don't fit you must acquit. |
| 23:47.00 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 23:47.05 | Cide | haha |
| 23:47.44 | *** part/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 23:48.35 | phreaky | Is it harder/easier to make addons in ace? Or why do some ppl choose ace and some not..? =) |
| 23:48.43 | phreaky | Does it have more/less options? |
| 23:48.58 | Guillotine | simplifies making them once you know it and in general has very good efficiency |
| 23:49.02 | cogwheel | Ace is a library... if you want to do things that ace does, then using it will reduce your development time |
| 23:49.28 | phreaky | Okey, thanks ^^ |
| 23:49.37 | Cide | depends on what you want to do, though |
| 23:49.48 | Tain | Plus it has a great theme song. |
| 23:49.51 | phreaky | So i guess there is addons that just cannot be made in ace? |
| 23:49.55 | Tain | Ace Ace Baby.. dum dum dum dum de de dum dum |
| 23:50.05 | cogwheel | phreaky: no... it doesn't work that way |
| 23:50.17 | phreaky | okey sry.. i'm just a curious noob =) |
| 23:50.19 | cogwheel | you can use whatever parts of ace you want |
| 23:50.33 | cogwheel | your addon still has to do a lot of the work itself |
| 23:50.43 | phreaky | i understand :) |
| 23:50.44 | cogwheel | ace is just a framework of functions that help you along the way |
| 23:51.21 | phreaky | okey :) |
| 23:51.23 | Tain | It helps you. Helps you eat babies! |
| 23:51.25 | phreaky | Thanks for explaining it =) |
| 23:52.05 | phreaky | Is it true or not that an ace addon always uses less memory than the "same" addon not made in ace? |
| 23:52.08 | phreaky | I've heard that many times |
| 23:52.18 | Cide | that's very, very false |
| 23:52.27 | Jarik | is there somwhere i could paste some code for somone to look at? |
| 23:52.29 | phreaky | ok :) thanks for clearing that :) |
| 23:52.32 | phreaky | out* |
| 23:52.46 | Kaelten | phreaky: it really depends on the addon author |
| 23:53.10 | Kaelten | Its possible for a ace addon to use more than a non ace equivilent |
| 23:53.29 | phreaky | I used nonace addons earlier, quite alot of em.. i was nearly 100mb memusage with addons.. so i took the time looking for replacement addons in ace since i heard it uses less memory.. it went down to 30mb.. |
| 23:53.53 | Kaelten | phreaky: and thats a common story that we do hear often |
| 23:53.53 | Cide | phreaky: that's not related to the ace addons themselves, but more about the authors behind them |
| 23:54.07 | phreaky | okey.. :) |
| 23:54.20 | phreaky | Then i don't have to get stuck with the idea to use only ace addons then i guess ^^ |
| 23:54.21 | Kaelten | we like to think that the ace community and ace itself help contribute to authors being more memory effeciant |
| 23:54.29 | Tain | IT's more that many authors who use Ace are also (borderline obsessively) concerned with low resource utilization as well. |
| 23:54.53 | Tain | But it's just that the community has attracted it, not that using Ace causes it. |
| 23:55.07 | Kaelten | phreaky: if you find an ace and a non ace version of both addons then I'd try them both and see which ones better |
| 23:55.18 | phreaky | yep.. |
| 23:56.26 | Tain | Plus I heard Ace gives you the herpes. |
| 23:56.43 | Wobin | That's a lie |
| 23:56.47 | Neuro_Medivh | those are just cold sores |
| 23:56.48 | Guillotine | alright, I just got 10 signatures for my guild. now what should I name it? |
| 23:56.49 | Neuro_Medivh | honest |
| 23:56.58 | Wobin | Guillotine: Booty Bay Surf Club |
| 23:57.16 | Tain | Name it, <Ho ho ho> |
| 23:57.19 | Guillotine | nah |
| 23:57.27 | Guillotine | <King of Ironforge< |
| 23:57.35 | Guillotine | then kick everyone but me maybe |
| 23:57.38 | Guillotine | or <General Goods> |
| 23:57.42 | Wobin | <Special Reagents Vendor> |
| 23:57.44 | Tain | hmmm <Baby Eaters> |
| 23:58.06 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Jarik (n=Jarik@66.142.28.76) |
| 23:58.31 | Guillotine | need mnore ideas! |
| 23:58.41 | Neuro_Medivh | <Warped Bastards> |
| 23:58.55 | Neuro_Medivh | <Turgid Knights> |
| 23:58.58 | Tain | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.01 | phreaky | <My Little Pwny> |
| 23:59.27 | phreaky | or as someone on stormscale named his guild .. <Hardcore Pwnography> |
| 23:59.28 | Guillotine | what about <ZOMGLAZURSPEWPEW> |
| 23:59.38 | Neuro_Medivh | <Stupid Americans> |
