| 00:00.05 | Cairenn | later Kipherece |
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| 00:09.19 | Industrial | what is with the ctprofiles page |
| 00:09.27 | Industrial | why cant i search it |
| 00:09.28 | Industrial | :| |
| 00:09.57 | Industrial | Every time I check it; Due to very large amounts of traffic, the listings are temporarily disabled, we'll bring them back up later tonight. |
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| 00:12.35 | Cide | because our load is high? |
| 00:12.37 | xgravix | i guess i need to lrn2play |
| 00:12.43 | Cide | we disabled it a couple of hours ago |
| 00:13.05 | KiphereCE | ~roulette |
| 00:13.14 | purl | ACTION watches kipherece pull the trigger: Click! |
| 00:13.46 | xgravix | ~roulette |
| 00:14.10 | purl | ACTION watches xgravix pull the trigger: Click! |
| 00:14.16 | KiphereCE | you lose =\ |
| 00:15.11 | Roladon | for some reason im missing an end, but i cant find where! |
| 00:16.01 | KiphereCE | just do what I do, delete things till the error goes away then ask Cogwheel why it doesnt work. |
| 00:16.11 | KiphereCE | or make a pastey and I'll glance at it while I'm eating |
| 00:16.12 | Iriel | ckknight: I believe the toc change would be to remind folks to go get updated addons for 2.0 that may be TBC aware, but that's largely conjecture based on past experience. |
| 00:16.42 | Iriel | (Sorry for the delay, I had to attend to the technicians who were here to confirm that I need to get my TV replaced (again)) |
| 00:17.00 | KiphereCE | t... v...? |
| 00:17.13 | KiphereCE | isnt that the computer with no keyboard/mouse? |
| 00:17.27 | Iriel | heh, having now seen the inside of it, yes. |
| 00:17.46 | KiphereCE | I hates tv |
| 00:17.46 | hugo | media center ? ;o |
| 00:18.09 | KiphereCE | I'm getting a 30+ inch monitor sometime next year and hooking my 360 and computer to it. |
| 00:18.14 | KiphereCE | then I wont need a tv anymore :p |
| 00:18.17 | Iriel | It has no broadcast inputs, I only feed DVD and XBox 360 into it |
| 00:18.44 | KiphereCE | if I'm not on the computer or xbxo I'm reading, at the gym, or work. |
| 00:18.46 | Iriel | Though I *COULD* use it as an over the top monitor since it has a PC input |
| 00:18.59 | KiphereCE | what type of tv is it though? |
| 00:19.01 | Bleetah | so really, it's just a 'studio' monitor? (ie, as used in TV stations and the like) |
| 00:19.04 | Iriel | It's a 50" plasma |
| 00:19.09 | Kirov | heh |
| 00:19.12 | Kirov | res? |
| 00:19.21 | KiphereCE | hopefully at least 1080i |
| 00:19.34 | Iriel | 13?? x 768, it'll accept up to 1080i though, IIRC |
| 00:19.40 | Iriel | I haven't fed higher than 720p into it |
| 00:19.50 | KiphereCE | it'd look like ass most likely as a monitor |
| 00:19.57 | Iriel | indeed |
| 00:20.04 | Kirov | A friend of mine uses a 1080p 37" lcd as a third monitor (to go with his two dell 2001wfps |
| 00:20.06 | Iriel | I wouldn't USE it as a monitor, that wasn't it's intention |
| 00:20.20 | Iriel | I like my monitor displays crisp and high res |
| 00:20.22 | Kirov | And that actually _does_ look good |
| 00:20.34 | Iriel | (1920 x 1200, 1600 x 1200, and 1280 x 1024 on this desk - in a row) |
| 00:20.36 | KiphereCE | tahts why I'm buyin a monitor I can hook my tv shit to heh |
| 00:20.59 | Iriel | but this room doesn't have the 7.1 surround and the sofa, while the room with the TV does |
| 00:21.19 | KiphereCE | my lil 21inch will only handle 1280x1024 |
| 00:21.45 | KiphereCE | my computer sound is better than the livingroom sound, but my wife doesnt watch TV eitehr really. |
| 00:22.15 | Kirov | 21inch 1280x1024?! |
| 00:22.16 | Iriel | Thanks to my wife we have twice as many TV's as people in the house |
| 00:22.19 | Kirov | aiee! |
| 00:22.25 | KiphereCE | what? |
| 00:22.34 | KiphereCE | its low I know =\ |
| 00:22.51 | KiphereCE | it looks decent though, plenty bright, great response rate, etc. |
| 00:22.54 | Iriel | My 21" CRT only does 1280 x 1024 well, 1600 x 1200 gets fuzzy |
| 00:22.55 | Kirov | 1280x1024 is a bastard resolution to begin with. |
| 00:23.03 | Iriel | but it's a great picture otherwise |
| 00:23.07 | kergoth | fuck 1280x1024, 1280x960 is where its at |
| 00:23.12 | KiphereCE | I don't have wide. |
| 00:23.23 | KiphereCE | the new LG stuff is pretty nice. |
| 00:23.23 | Kirov | 1280x960 is 4:3 |
| 00:23.28 | kergoth | 1280x960 isnt wide, is the correct aspect ratio. as hesaid, 1280x1024 is a bastard resolution |
| 00:23.41 | Kirov | 1280x1024 is the standard non standard 5:4 |
| 00:24.29 | Iriel | The resolution doesn't really matter as long as you configure the display geometry correctly |
| 00:25.03 | Kirov | true, but a major peev of mine is black space on crts |
| 00:25.20 | Iriel | Ah |
| 00:25.26 | KiphereCE | this is a lcd |
| 00:25.43 | KiphereCE | flatron, 8ms response, 1280x1024, blah blah. |
| 00:25.52 | KiphereCE | its not blurry at all, nice and bright too. |
| 00:25.57 | KiphereCE | almost bought two |
| 00:25.57 | Iriel | I've more or less given my life over to LCD's anyway for monitor use, I only have the CRT because I like the color reproduction and (thanks to a large number of things breaking this year) I didn't have spare change for a 3rd LCD |
| 00:25.59 | Kirov | most 19" lcds and some old 19" CRTs are 5:4 |
| 00:26.29 | seebs | The color reproduction on my LCDs is enough better than my crappy old CRTs that I was totally sold. |
| 00:26.39 | seebs | 1600x1200 FTW. |
| 00:26.58 | Iriel | in its day this was a nice CRT, it's aged reasonably well. |
| 00:27.02 | xgravix | i still havent seen an lcd with good black level |
| 00:27.29 | Corrodias | i play games at 1280x960, but my desktop is at 1280x1024, leaving me a little space at the bottom (i like to run in windowed mode anyway) |
| 00:27.34 | xgravix | a good crt has roughly no light coming out of the black spots |
| 00:27.43 | Corrodias | i know that you all wanted to know what -i- do |
| 00:27.43 | Kirov | Yeah, I have to blow out my low end colors to be able to see them on most lcds |
| 00:27.57 | Iriel | xgravix: Yeah, that's what pushed me away from LCD for the large TV, shadows suck on all the units I could afford |
| 00:28.01 | KiphereCE | The dell I'm picking up early next year is one of the 30inch dells with 2560x1600max reso |
| 00:28.28 | Kirov | I'm looking forward to the SED / FED market to show up for real. |
| 00:28.33 | Bleetah | i wonder how these 'new' laser monitors will go.. I guess we'll find out @ CES |
| 00:28.39 | xgravix | SED would be sweet |
| 00:28.57 | KiphereCE | none of that crap will be out till 08 for an even remotely marketable price. |
| 00:29.03 | Kirov | SED originally was going to be priced below LCD when it came out, but now it sounds like A) LCD prices dropped faster than expected and B ) SED costs more. |
| 00:29.20 | KiphereCE | I'm sure they'll sell em, but they're gonna cost more than the features are worth |
| 00:29.31 | KiphereCE | for a lil whiel anyway |
| 00:29.32 | xgravix | i'll be poor until way after 08 anyway, np for me =P |
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| 00:29.39 | Kirov | There's a carbon nanotube FED prototype screen that can be made using an ink-jet like printer. |
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| 00:30.00 | KiphereCE | well, I've gotten over 10% in raises this year and am expecting another 3% in febuary with the normal merit review |
| 00:30.22 | Kirov | Looks really nice apart from the fact they used an actual modified ink jet printer to make it so it's not the cleanest picture. |
| 00:30.28 | KiphereCE | and my living expenses have gone down a bit actualy. |
| 00:31.10 | xgravix | they raise the cost of my tuition 10% this year |
| 00:31.11 | KiphereCE | I eventually want a highdef projector for my gaming rig |
| 00:31.11 | xgravix | huzzah! |
| 00:31.23 | Iriel | I figure by the time I'm ready to replace the plasma whatever is 'coming next' is going to be affordable |
| 00:31.38 | KiphereCE | I've got a nice 15foot wall I can project to in a room tahts easily blackened with curtains. |
| 00:31.57 | Iriel | I dont like the ambient light limitations of the projectors, though they're cool for an ad-hoc gaming party |
| 00:32.17 | KiphereCE | a lot of the new HD projectors can display damn near perfect in a lit room. |
| 00:32.38 | Iriel | KiphereCE: For what definition of 'lit' ? |
| 00:32.47 | KiphereCE | office conference room with lights on |
| 00:32.51 | xgravix | there are special screens you can get that only reflect light polarized in one direction |
| 00:33.01 | xgravix | so you get a projector that emits polarized light and you're good to go |
| 00:33.08 | Kirov | There are some good projection screens out there that allow for high ambient light viewing of projected images with out any real issues. Though, right now they cost as much as just buying an equivalent size plasma |
| 00:33.12 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.13 | Cairenn | http://www.warcraft-mods.com/ |
| 00:33.14 | xgravix | great contrast in a bright room |
| 00:33.15 | KiphereCE | or just a nice powerful HD projector and it doesnt matter lol |
| 00:33.24 | KiphereCE | Cairenn, that a new site? |
| 00:33.32 | Gryphen | looks like it |
| 00:33.49 | KiphereCE | want I should break theys legs? |
| 00:33.51 | Cairenn | yup, another place uploading mods without author permission/knowledge |
| 00:34.27 | Iriel | Cairenn: Looks like an attempt to make money from google ads |
| 00:34.42 | Gryphen | ya |
| 00:34.43 | KiphereCE | I didnt click but did they do the both sides top and bottom thing? |
| 00:34.48 | Cairenn | have at 'em guys |
| 00:34.57 | KiphereCE | or like Mings page with the HUGE add on every blog entry. |
| 00:35.03 | KiphereCE | that site makes my butt hurt |
| 00:35.45 | Corrodias | ah, this situation amuses me |
| 00:35.58 | Corrodias | or confuses, a little... |
| 00:36.16 | KiphereCE | btw Cairenn, in January I'm launching my social gaming and tech site, which will start with a WoW subdomain outside of the primary domain. You mind if I link WoWInterface? (and do you have any type of banners premade for links) |
| 00:36.17 | Cairenn | Gryphen made me aware of it, they've posted on the wiki with a link to their site |
| 00:36.23 | xgravix | just click an ad twenty times they will get banned from adsense |
| 00:36.40 | Gryphen | i reported them for violation too :) |
| 00:36.48 | Gryphen | images next to ads |
| 00:36.51 | Corrodias | to whom, for a violation of what? |
| 00:37.00 | Gryphen | http://www.warcraft-mods.com/Atlas.html |
| 00:37.08 | Gryphen | new policy cant put the images next to it like that |
| 00:37.13 | Cairenn | Kipherece: there's a link plus graphic on the front page of the site, left hand side |
| 00:37.17 | Corrodias | a policy... of the ad provider? |
| 00:37.30 | Gryphen | adsense policy |
| 00:37.31 | KiphereCE | oops, missed it. |
| 00:37.39 | Corrodias | i don't know what adsense is |
| 00:37.40 | KiphereCE | I generally navigate straight to the forums or downloads section |
| 00:37.44 | Cairenn | Kipherece: it's just below the "hosted projects" and just above the comic |
| 00:37.51 | KiphereCE | yeah, I see it now. |
| 00:37.52 | Gryphen | yes ad provider, google |
| 00:37.54 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 00:38.04 | KiphereCE | so I take that as an "its ok to link to me" ;) |
| 00:38.13 | Cairenn | yup |
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| 00:38.16 | Kirov | any BigWig devs here? |
| 00:38.29 | Kirov | or should I pop my head in wowace |
| 00:38.54 | Corrodias | if they don't keep the mods updated, people won't use the site. if they do keep the mods updated, it's another free point of distribution during rough traffic days. but i understand that authors don't like people to associate them with less impressive hosts, or try to communicate with them on sites they don't visit. |
| 00:39.05 | KiphereCE | I'm launching the site as a promotion for social gaming and not limiting it to a single platform or game. Eventually I'll have communities set up for various major online games hopefully (if there's interest) |
| 00:40.11 | KiphereCE | I think its more of the fact that those addons weren't submitted to that site for distrobution, they were downloaded from one of the already existing sites and then put up for distribution with 0 communication with the authors. |
| 00:40.21 | Cairenn | Corrodias: the problem is a) that these sites upload mods without permission; b) they don't keep them updated, so the authors end up getting tons of false bug reports and stuff |
| 00:40.40 | Gryphen | they make money on the ads from authors work |
| 00:40.49 | Gryphen | lot of money in those ads right there |
| 00:40.55 | Cairenn | that too |
| 00:41.15 | KiphereCE | They're not tryin to be helpful, they're capitalizing and in a shifty way, its like blackmarket mods imo. |
| 00:41.15 | Cairenn | I don't see the ads, go go adblocker, but still |
| 00:41.25 | Corrodias | really? i thought the idea that ads make a significant amount of money died in the .com crash |
| 00:41.30 | Kirov | I don't make any money on my addons, nor do I plan to. |
| 00:41.40 | KiphereCE | Corrod, with a random website you're right. |
| 00:41.45 | Kirov | I'd rather not anyone else do either. |
| 00:41.54 | KiphereCE | with a WoW based website, you can do decent |
| 00:42.00 | Gryphen | yeah |
| 00:42.04 | KiphereCE | considering the massive hits a link ont he WoW forums can generate. |
| 00:42.10 | KiphereCE | its like being linked in a PA thread |
| 00:42.14 | Cairenn | well, there are addresses on the page where you can get hold of them |
| 00:42.20 | Corrodias | b) i understand, but a) is an intellectual property thing and i've never understood that, truly. |
| 00:43.03 | Cairenn | you can't take a book, make thousands of photocopies of it and hand them out |
| 00:43.20 | Cairenn | you can't take a painting, scan it and print out thousands of copies of it |
| 00:43.31 | Cairenn | you can't take a mod and redistribute it |
| 00:43.33 | Corrodias | that's financially infeasible and punishable with legal recourse |
| 00:43.37 | Cairenn | same thing, every single instance |
| 00:43.37 | KiphereCE | I think if a new site came up empty and said 'Hey, we'd like to distro mods as well to help spread the load' and offered tools and communication they'd be welcomed, when they sneak in withotu communicating with the already decent community they get a bad first impression |
| 00:43.39 | Corrodias | the last one, well... |
| 00:43.46 | Cairenn | no, it's the exact same thing |
| 00:43.48 | Bleetah | Cairenn: depends on whta license the mod is released under |
| 00:44.05 | Bleetah | most mods I see have no license, so one would assume it's 100% (C) the author |
| 00:44.17 | Bleetah | and as such, they'd have a say on distribution mehtods |
| 00:44.32 | Cairenn | unless the author has expressly stated that the mod is free to redistribute, etc, then it defaults to 100% copyright |
| 00:44.38 | Bleetah | yup |
| 00:44.56 | Bleetah | i wonder if anyone's done an analysis of 'code borrowing' in wow mods? ;-) |
| 00:45.07 | KiphereCE | most people will come back with the (incorrect) arguement that its 'blizzard' property and thereby free to distribute. |
| 00:45.09 | Corrodias | that means that it's illegal for you to give your friend a copy of the file; they must download it from an authorized release site? |
| 00:45.32 | Cairenn | I've been dealing with mod author copyright for 5 years now, that's why I get so pissed off about shit like this |
| 00:45.51 | Bleetah | depends on what the original author stated the distribution policy is, Corrodias |
| 00:45.55 | Cairenn | Corrodias: there's a difference between you making one single copy for your friend, and redistributing it to thousands |
| 00:46.12 | KiphereCE | legally theres not, but by perception there is. :p |
| 00:46.19 | Cairenn | but *technically* yes, even your example is breaking the rules |
| 00:46.21 | KiphereCE | redistribution is redistribution. |
| 00:46.22 | Corrodias | perhaps you can't be fined as much |
| 00:46.35 | Cairenn | you guys didn't let me finish my statement ;) |
| 00:47.14 | Corrodias | who or what pays for wowi, anyway? |
| 00:47.25 | Bleetah | duck? |
| 00:47.26 | Gryphen | lemonade stand |
| 00:47.27 | KiphereCE | Everything could be avoided by forethought and consideration. If the spring up sites communicated properly before randomly popping up with a ton of mods no one would have a problem I don't think. |
| 00:47.29 | Bleetah | QUACK! |
| 00:47.55 | KiphereCE | WoWI is sponsored by Ogaming isnt it? |
| 00:48.00 | Cairenn | Corrodias: we're part of the Zam network |
| 00:48.30 | Cairenn | http://www.allakhazam.com/ |
| 00:48.35 | KiphereCE | oops, whos the Ogaming sponsored site |
| 00:48.35 | Cairenn | them there folks |
| 00:48.46 | Corrodias | i see |
| 00:49.04 | Bleetah | fwiw, i'm looking at re-inventing the wheel for a mod, and making it more expansive. the current author has no (C) notice on his code, so I wrote him an email asking what the status was, and whether I could borrow the code (for what it's worth, no response yet). |
| 00:49.28 | Kirov | Who or what pays for wowi doesn't really matter. We authors are the ones uploading files to it. In doing so we're effectively signing a "ok to distribute" contract of sorts. |
| 00:50.12 | KiphereCE | it's hard to (C) an idea, if you copy code bit for bit, rename it and claim it as yours, you're wrong. If you yank parts from various mods and put them together into a wholly new product.. well, you're just effecient imo. |
| 00:50.30 | KiphereCE | GM doesnt go back and decide whether or not round is the right shape for a wheel everytime they design a car. |
| 00:50.41 | Corrodias | Kirov: i think it matters to the ISP who expects a bill to be payed :) |
| 00:52.15 | Cairenn | *in general*, authors don't mind if you borrow a bit of their code, so long as you give proper credit |
| 00:52.36 | Bleetah | personally, I think we should come up with some WoW Mod license, 'Goblin Public License' |
| 00:52.39 | Cairenn | but if you are using whole-scale chunks, then permission before hand is (at the very least) courtesy |
| 00:52.45 | Industrial | KiphereCE: it gets anoying when someone takes your mod and slasp his name on it and releases it in another language or something |
| 00:52.57 | KiphereCE | I'd imagine. |
| 00:53.11 | KiphereCE | when I was working on my ghetto bar, I asked questions and people posted chunks of code for me to use/abuse |
| 00:53.22 | KiphereCE | if I used even 2 lines of that code I put their name in the commented section above. |
| 00:53.27 | KiphereCE | to thank them for helping mostly lol |
| 00:53.47 | Gryphen | yeah, "AddOn (Continued)" on release day....erm give the real author time to get the patch! |
| 00:54.28 | KiphereCE | I think that people who do taht should just fix it for themselves. |
| 00:54.34 | KiphereCE | but sites shouldn't post those mods either imo. |
| 00:54.42 | KiphereCE | unless the project has actualy been abandoned |
| 00:54.48 | Industrial | I think you shouldnt accept that as a download in the first place |
| 00:55.01 | KiphereCE | "I'm" no one just fyi. |
| 00:55.07 | KiphereCE | just some random newb who talks a lot in here. |
| 00:55.18 | Industrial | i know |
| 00:55.22 | KiphereCE | ;_; |
| 00:55.23 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:55.25 | KiphereCE | I'm transparent! |
| 00:55.25 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:55.55 | Bleetah | no offence to wowi, it's a great site, but I *never* go to a mod download site if there's an author homepage where the mod's available from, anyway. It's a habit thing I've grown into over 15 years |
| 00:56.14 | Gryphen | not many of those |
| 00:56.27 | KiphereCE | I like centralized locations, I think it's better for the community as a whole. |
| 00:56.30 | foxlit | That could get annoying, though |
| 00:56.35 | KiphereCE | it's also a choke point though. |
| 00:56.51 | Industrial | Hm, they are airing Chapelle's show in the netherlands now (yeah late doesnt matter). Anyone see the episode with the Niggar (note the a) family? |
| 00:57.19 | Bleetah | the blind racist? |
| 00:57.36 | Industrial | no the other one with the white family with the last name Niggar |
| 00:58.05 | Bleetah | ah, haven't seen many eps, onely the first all the way thru. playtime in australia sucked. |
| 00:58.32 | Industrial | hm maybe that bit is on google video lemme look :D |
| 00:59.12 | KiphereCE | think I'm gonna play a lil WoW. |
| 00:59.33 | Bleetah | and on a similar note... |
| 00:59.34 | Bleetah | "An Australian legal ruling that links to copyrighted material may themselves represent a copyright violation could spell serious trouble for bloggers and search engines." |
| 01:00.06 | Bleetah | http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/copyright-ruling-puts-linking-on-notice/2006/12/19/1166290520771.html |
| 01:00.33 | Industrial | hm google doesnt let me search for it but I did find http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5275369554027217796&q=chappelle+nig |
| 01:01.18 | Industrial | Bleetah: how is that copyright violation? a link is not a copy |
| 01:01.28 | foxlit | If you're in australia, it is |
| 01:01.30 | Industrial | meh a video on google video is tho ;x |
| 01:02.10 | Bleetah | it was more about how the links were found, assembled and presented |
| 01:02.37 | Cairenn | "because they provided a search engine through which a user could illegally download" |
| 01:02.46 | Cairenn | that's the key part of it all, right there |
| 01:03.08 | Industrial | they cataloged content, they didnt just index it |
| 01:04.21 | Bleetah | yeah, there's a big diff between 'you are able to kill mr smith', and 'mr smith is leaving home at 8am this morning, shoot him at around 8:05' |
| 01:04.22 | norgs_away | It comes down to intent |
| 01:04.36 | norgs_away | It always comes down to intent |
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| 01:04.58 | Bleetah | our (C) laws are pretty insane, anyways |
| 01:05.07 | norgs_away | true dat |
| 01:05.09 | Bleetah | and (P) laws |
| 01:05.28 | norgs_away | our courts just make uniformed arbitrary decisions from time to time |
| 01:05.51 | Bleetah | eg (P) stupidity laws: dunno about where you are, norgs, but down here it's perfectly legal to show an 9 y/o pronographic images ... as long as you're the parent |
| 01:06.02 | norgs_away | you get a judge on a bad day, or look at him the wrong way, and you're toasted |
| 01:06.31 | Bleetah | i blame the temperature up there, norgs.. seems to be a thing about whitey near the equator |
| 01:06.41 | norgs_away | s/him/him or her/ |
| 01:07.37 | fewyn | Hmmmmm |
| 01:07.40 | fewyn | patchwerk |
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| 01:07.47 | norgs | our judges remind me of Blizzard GM's as a matter of fact |
| 01:08.03 | Bleetah | more like your DPP |
| 01:09.18 | norgs | Director of Public Prosecutions? |
| 01:09.38 | Bleetah | yeah.. she's got that 'i'm craaazy' look in her eyes |
| 01:09.44 | norgs | hehe |
| 01:09.54 | norgs | the heat gets to some people |
| 01:10.18 | Bleetah | heat... hmmm.. reminds me of |
| 01:10.23 | Bleetah | siesta! |
| 01:10.25 | Bleetah | ciao |
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| 01:21.14 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-514193875112523980&q=dave+chappelle |
| 01:21.18 | Industrial | you have to see this |
| 01:21.21 | Industrial | its crazy |
| 01:21.23 | Industrial | SFW |
| 01:25.33 | Cairenn | pretty impressive |
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| 01:30.38 | Cairenn | love it when you find someone who is really good on non-"standard" instruments |
| 01:31.54 | TheStig | what can i do if i want to watch for certain text strings in party and raid chat only and play a certain sound file for each one? |
| 01:32.40 | Kirov | You can write a simple mod for it? |
| 01:33.13 | TheStig | yeah thats what i want to do, but im not sure of what blizzard commands are avilable for it or if i need to write my own lib or what |
| 01:33.27 | Kirov | Or you can try driving a rusty 1979 Empala around the track in the time it'll take me to write it. ;) |
| 01:33.36 | TheStig | hehe |
| 01:34.16 | Kirov | What'll you'll need to do is familiarize yourself with WoW's event system, and lua's string.match |
| 01:34.23 | TheStig | ok here is what i want.. in this other mmorpg i use to play, they had calls - a series of 8 or 9 <call1> <call2> etc. that you could type ONLY in party or raid chat which corresponded to various sound files |
| 01:34.41 | Corrodias | i wonder if Ace2 has chat parsing stuff in it |
| 01:34.42 | TheStig | and i thought hey that would be useful in raids in world of warcrat |
| 01:34.50 | TheStig | craft haha |
| 01:35.21 | Kirov | TheStig - could you explain it a little more, maybe some examples? |
| 01:35.51 | TheStig | okay lets say the tank has a massive aggro gaining ability to cause the boss to focus on him for 30 seconds no matter what usable only once every 10 minutes |
| 01:36.12 | TheStig | if he uses it he will put a message in chat Using Special Hate Grabbing Ability! <call9> |
| 01:36.20 | TheStig | then a bell sound will play so even if you miss the call |
| 01:36.31 | TheStig | err the message, you hear the call and you know only that paladin is using that bell |
| 01:36.44 | Kirov | the <call#> would be what causes teh "ding" |
| 01:36.50 | TheStig | exactly |
| 01:37.05 | TheStig | everyone would have to use it |
| 01:37.06 | TheStig | of course |
| 01:37.46 | Industrial | Cairenn: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1117522099948855974&q=solo |
| 01:37.56 | Industrial | very old but cool |
| 01:38.01 | TheStig | but once everyone has it loaded, the leader could assign (sparingly) various bells/whistles/sound effects to various players for various abilities |
| 01:38.19 | TheStig | that way you never miss something important |
| 01:39.22 | Kirov | ~seen beladona |
| 01:39.47 | purl | beladona <n=beladona@josephpartners.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 5h 42m 19s ago, saying: 'you underestimate the incompetency of the many'. |
| 01:39.49 | TheStig | and in the other game if you typed <call#> in /say or /yell or even /whisper it would not trigger the sound file, only local party and raid |
| 01:41.04 | Kirov | http://wowi.pastey.net/3839-iqio |
| 01:41.51 | TheStig | so fast lol |
| 01:41.54 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaySound |
| 01:42.00 | Kirov | choose the sounds you want |
| 01:42.08 | Kirov | or alternatively use http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaySoundFile |
| 01:42.29 | Kirov | you just need to stick that in an existing mod someplace, or make your own folder and a .toc for it |
| 01:42.49 | TheStig | sweet hehe |
| 01:43.24 | Kirov | btw, if someone does <ding1><ding4> in their message it'll only play ding1 |
| 01:43.38 | TheStig | how do you add multiple sound files? |
| 01:44.05 | Kirov | the dings = { } table is a list of sounds to play |
| 01:44.18 | Kirov | atm, they're all "RaidWarning" but they can be anything on that list in the first link. |
| 01:44.48 | TheStig | i see |
| 01:44.54 | Kirov | For PlaySoundFile you'll actually have to track down the full path of the sounds, but you can just drop .wav or .mp3 files the addon's directory and play them that way |
| 01:45.05 | TheStig | yeah i will probably add mp3 files |
| 01:45.14 | TheStig | which is less resource intensive? |
| 01:45.17 | TheStig | wav or mp3 |
| 01:45.31 | foxlit | What sort of resources? |
| 01:45.41 | Kirov | doesn't really matter terribly |
| 01:45.43 | foxlit | mp3 probably takes a bit more cpu to decode, wav is huge |
| 01:45.50 | TheStig | well does wow just cache everything on load |
| 01:45.51 | Kirov | .mp3 is better usually |
| 01:46.04 | TheStig | or does it just verify checksums and that files exist |
| 01:46.11 | Kirov | things are loaded when they're needed. |
| 01:46.15 | TheStig | ah good |
| 01:46.31 | foxlit | Hm, actually. |
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| 01:46.39 | foxlit | wav is a container. Does the codec get called to decode? |
| 01:46.54 | foxlit | Or does wow attempt to decode the file itself? |
| 01:47.05 | Thunder_Child | Ah, the way priest talents should be. http://www.talents.unleashedgaming.net/?p=vt&i=3434 |
| 01:47.13 | Kirov | foxlit - I believe wow does it |
| 01:48.14 | Kirov | lol |
| 01:48.43 | Kirov | "8th circle of hell, punishes hunters for deceiving the enemy with feign death" |
| 01:49.03 | TheStig | do I need to change PlaySound(dings[ding]); to PlaySoundFile(dings[ding]); and then change "RaidWarning", to "Interface\\AddOns\\dings\\sounds\\ding1.wav",etc. ? |
| 01:49.44 | Thunder_Child | not enemy Kirov, priests...i have a heart attack when priests FD |
| 01:49.46 | Kirov | yes |
| 01:49.48 | Corrodias | Thunder_Child: i am amused |
| 01:49.49 | TheStig | sweet |
| 01:49.56 | TheStig | seems easy now lol |
| 01:50.00 | TheStig | thanks so much kirov |
| 01:50.10 | Thunder_Child | good corr, it seems so hard to amuse you some times |
| 01:50.27 | Corrodias | i appreciate your efforts |
| 01:50.29 | Kirov | Thunder_Child - I wrote an addon to prevent just that. It's a little harder to do for 2.0 because of taint though. |
| 01:51.04 | Kirov | There's a little bug (still around) that the tooltip for a friendly unit shows their real health |
| 01:51.08 | Thunder_Child | well i use x-raid now it it displays when a party member is FD'ing which is really nice |
| 01:51.27 | Thunder_Child | s/it/and/ |
| 01:51.33 | Kirov | If a hunter FDs you can just set the tooltip to them and do a GetValue() on the status bar |
| 01:51.50 | Thunder_Child | well it's just for party....healing wise |
| 01:52.11 | Corrodias | priests can FD? |
| 01:52.24 | Thunder_Child | only when we pass out |
| 01:52.57 | Corrodias | you lost me :( |
| 01:53.02 | Thunder_Child | hah i just notaced, at the top of the page of the link i sent there is a link to create your own talent tree |
| 01:53.53 | Thunder_Child | corr what i was refering to is that when hunters in my party FD i worry that they are dead when they have just FD'd and i like the abilityh to tell which one it is |
| 01:54.01 | Corrodias | yes indeed |
| 01:54.27 | Corrodias | oh. i was confused when you said "i have a heart attack when priests FD". |
| 01:55.04 | Thunder_Child | lolz, didnt even realize i said that |
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| 01:57.47 | KiphereCE | HAI GUYS IM BACK |
| 01:57.53 | xgravix | NO WAI! |
| 01:57.53 | Thunder_Child | damn |
| 01:57.56 | KiphereCE | WAI |
| 01:57.58 | KiphereCE | :3 |
| 01:58.19 | KiphereCE | ~:3 |
| 01:58.28 | purl | It's a kitty! |
| 01:58.28 | Thunder_Child | ~eat$hitanddie kip |
| 01:58.32 | KiphereCE | -_-; |
| 01:58.55 | xgravix | ~roulette |
| 01:58.57 | purl | ACTION watches xgravix pull the trigger: Click! |
| 01:59.07 | KiphereCE | c'mon lucky empty |
| 01:59.41 | Thunder_Child | lol purl wont even let you pull the trigger |
| 01:59.41 | TheStig | any of you guys use opium? |
| 01:59.41 | KiphereCE | I did it too fast. |
| 01:59.41 | TheStig | the mod |
| 01:59.41 | KiphereCE | ~roulette |
| 01:59.43 | purl | ACTION watches kipherece pull the trigger: Click! |
| 01:59.44 | TheStig | not the drug.... |
| 01:59.44 | xgravix | i try not too easy to get addicted |
| 01:59.46 | KiphereCE | yay |
| 02:00.00 | TheStig | lol i didn't realize what i had said until i had said it |
| 02:00.05 | Thunder_Child | ~roulette |
| 02:00.07 | purl | ACTION watches thunder_child pull the trigger: Click! |
| 02:00.27 | Thunder_Child | ....hmm....time to go home... |
| 02:00.28 | TheStig | ~roulette |
| 02:00.30 | purl | ACTION watches thestig pull the trigger: Click! |
| 02:00.31 | Thunder_Child | laters all |
| 02:00.39 | Cairenn | later Thunder_Child |
| 02:02.15 | KiphereCE | is thunder generally cranky or does he/she just not like me? ;) |
| 02:03.43 | Industrial | Ok people I feel like making a mod! There is one problem: I don't know what to make. Gimme some ideas! |
| 02:03.55 | KiphereCE | sixshooter |
| 02:04.08 | Industrial | what? |
| 02:04.22 | KiphereCE | 6 buttons in a circle that rotate positions as you click on them for 'quick firing' 6 spells in a row without moving the cursor |
| 02:04.40 | Industrial | you cant move buttons in combat |
| 02:05.14 | Industrial | and you dont know /castsequence |
| 02:05.15 | Iriel | You could use a state header to logically rotate them in combat |
| 02:05.16 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:05.26 | Iriel | You leave the buttons in place, and you move their meanings |
| 02:05.29 | KiphereCE | I think cast sequence has a limit |
| 02:05.46 | KiphereCE | and I'm pretty sure what i'm talkin about can be done from reading the securestateheader stuff, but I'm a newb so... could be wrong. |
| 02:06.13 | Industrial | very well |
| 02:06.16 | KiphereCE | you can change a button after its clicked, you don't have to rotate the actual frames, can just sorta rebind them |
| 02:06.16 | Industrial | lets give it a try |
| 02:06.17 | Industrial | :D |
| 02:06.23 | KiphereCE | I have no idea how useful it'd be. |
| 02:06.31 | KiphereCE | maybe with 4 buttons as a shaman for laying the same totems |
| 02:06.54 | Industrial | well ok castsequence is really better imo ;[ |
| 02:06.56 | KiphereCE | is there a limit to castsequence? |
| 02:07.09 | KiphereCE | like how many spells can be in the sequence? |
| 02:07.11 | Industrial | dunno |
| 02:07.14 | Iriel | nope |
| 02:07.21 | Industrial | 255 chars :) |
| 02:07.22 | KiphereCE | well then yeah uit'd be better ;) |
| 02:07.40 | KiphereCE | you just said ideas, you didn't specify for good ones. |
| 02:07.55 | Industrial | Ok; Good ideas. |
| 02:08.08 | Industrial | note: I suck at configuration screens and all that :> |
| 02:08.19 | KiphereCE | Iwin button prz |
| 02:10.26 | KiphereCE | do relative positions (character relative positions) register an event? |
| 02:10.29 | KiphereCE | I assume they have to. |
| 02:10.49 | Industrial | you mean... moving? |
| 02:10.51 | KiphereCE | like if you're int he blacksmith in AB can you reference it? |
| 02:11.10 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:11.22 | KiphereCE | how bout a lil 'inc' button |
| 02:11.29 | KiphereCE | for defense in battlegrounds. |
| 02:11.59 | KiphereCE | maybe even a panel of quick messages like 'Enemies incoming to <current location>" |
| 02:12.17 | KiphereCE | "We're about to lose <loc>", "<loc> is all good" etc |
| 02:12.25 | KiphereCE | its frivolous but i bet people would DL it. |
| 02:13.10 | Industrial | I used comms scripts alot in the days people didnt have voice comms (1999 anyone? :D) in hl1:TFC |
| 02:13.37 | KiphereCE | I dunno if its possible but if you could make the bg map register certain types of clicks, that'd be nice.' |
| 02:13.44 | Arrowmaster | it would be either GetMinimapZoneText() GetSubZoneText() |
| 02:13.49 | KiphereCE | shiftclick on a spot ont he map and it said 'incoming' to that spot or something |
| 02:13.52 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: thanks |
| 02:14.03 | Industrial | KiphereCE: I think it would be faster to have keybinds |
| 02:14.04 | Arrowmaster | Industrial: pff we used voice comm even back for hl1:tfc |
| 02:14.25 | Arrowmaster | back when the only one was rogerwilco |
| 02:14.27 | KiphereCE | my reasoning for mentioning a panel was I forsee the type of player that would want it would be a clicker. |
| 02:14.35 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: not in the WON days.. I used to make menus with the little black loading screen message thing |
| 02:14.38 | KiphereCE | hotkey players are used to communicating and typing and playing with their hands on the keyboard |
| 02:14.51 | Arrowmaster | no im talking back in the won days |
| 02:15.00 | KiphereCE | meh, I only started using voice shit recently. |
| 02:15.01 | Industrial | :s |
| 02:15.07 | Arrowmaster | back with tfc 1.0 and cs beta3 |
| 02:15.09 | KiphereCE | I lied to my first guild and told them I was deaf. |
| 02:15.09 | Industrial | I dont use it now :D |
| 02:15.26 | KiphereCE | I think voice chat helped kill a lot of player skill actualy. |
| 02:15.31 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: hm my clans started doing it like in 2000 |
| 02:15.40 | KiphereCE | if you cant type and play your class you need to get workin on those wrist chops. |
| 02:15.51 | Industrial | <-- uktfcl div2 tJ~ and [TFH] :-) |
| 02:16.17 | KiphereCE | plus I hate hearing some prepubecent dipshit screaming after the first time he kills Garr or gets some new lewts... and the 'fill the silence' type folks that exist in almost ever vent. |
| 02:16.19 | Industrial | well I quit ctf in 04 |
| 02:16.48 | Arrowmaster | KiphereCE: then get a better guild |
| 02:16.59 | Industrial | KiphereCE: yeah so imagine this, you have a few keys say one for 'inc' one for 'clear' and one for |
| 02:17.04 | Industrial | whatever |
| 02:17.13 | Industrial | bound to the numpad |
| 02:17.16 | KiphereCE | Arrow: thats why I'm making one with some friends at TBC launch |
| 02:17.27 | KiphereCE | Ind: I'd make it user configurable :p |
| 02:17.36 | KiphereCE | as far as what binds |
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| 02:17.44 | Industrial | wait wait |
| 02:17.54 | KiphereCE | I personally use my numpad for a bank of hotkeys |
| 02:18.10 | Industrial | so you go 1 (inc), 3 (3 ppl), 5 (blacksmith) |
| 02:18.25 | KiphereCE | just make 5 the 'get loc' function |
| 02:18.37 | KiphereCE | so you don't have to have 5 different location buttons. |
| 02:18.47 | Industrial | what if im at the mill :P |
| 02:19.03 | KiphereCE | then screw them, you're safe! |
| 02:19.12 | Industrial | im still making it :> |
| 02:19.16 | KiphereCE | lol |
| 02:19.37 | KiphereCE | it's gonna be complicated for people to remember "I hit 1 for inc, then how many, then what for where?" |
| 02:19.40 | Arrowmaster | going to play with the new override bindings huh? |
| 02:19.54 | Industrial | I have no idea how yet |
| 02:19.57 | KiphereCE | it should be something that can be done reflexively. |
| 02:20.05 | KiphereCE | if thats even a word |
| 02:20.07 | Arrowmaster | it would be perty easy with override bindings i think |
| 02:20.09 | Industrial | prolly a choice function or something |
| 02:20.24 | Industrial | KiphereCE: it can be done in a reflex. its part of skill. learning :) |
| 02:20.35 | Industrial | KiphereCE: its the same as not having to look at your actionbuttons |
| 02:23.17 | KiphereCE | people don't look at their action buttons?! |
| 02:23.25 | KiphereCE | -_- |
| 02:23.52 | Industrial | to use them? no. I know what spells are under what keys |
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| 02:24.07 | Industrial | I do look at them to check cooldowns on spells |
| 02:25.38 | KiphereCE | I was kidding :p |
| 02:26.03 | KiphereCE | I have 28 buttons that i use via hotkey at any given time on my screen + some on a shift page that I use rarely. |
| 02:26.14 | KiphereCE | I only click 4 things and they're pots. |
| 02:28.10 | Industrial | I see 3 bars of 12 that are bound to 1-= shift1-= ctrl1-= (my caps is ctrl) but I only fill them up til 6 so 18 buttons :) |
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| 02:47.25 | PProvost | Hello everyone |
| 02:48.40 | Cairenn | hi PProvost |
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| 02:58.08 | TC_Sleeping | ahh....nothing like a good 2 1/2 mile walk home from work |
| 03:01.54 | MentalPower | In a binary search algorithm, wikipedia says that there are at most 1 + log2 N (log sub2 of N) iterations required to find a match, is N the size of the array to be searched? |
| 03:02.27 | Corrodias | from what i remember of my algorithms class, yes. |
| 03:04.22 | MentalPower | thanks |
| 03:06.16 | seebs | MP, yes. |
| 03:06.44 | seebs | You can confirm this by doing the back of the envelope calculation. :) |
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| 03:10.22 | Tuller | (do a trace) |
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| 03:20.26 | seebs | MP: Just work it out in general. Each pass of a binary search has to eliminate about half the candidates, so you should be very close to log2(N). Just add one because you might have an extra and to deal with rounding error. |
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| 03:20.53 | seebs | Hey, I've had this weird thing a few times where Bongos would insist that my hearthstone had 50d of cooldown left, even though the tooltip said 14 minutes. |
| 03:20.56 | MentalPower | ah, IC |
| 03:21.06 | MentalPower | thanks seebs |
| 03:21.14 | Tuller | seebs: game bug :) |
| 03:21.30 | seebs | Oh. Well, drat, I was hoping you could magically fix it. :) |
| 03:21.36 | Tuller | the cooldown model should be wonky too |
| 03:21.38 | Garoun|Loupana | looks as though I"d have to overlay a texture on top of the blizzminimap if I wanted to register any sort of clicks on it :( |
| 03:22.00 | Garoun|Loupana | since only the tab is setup to accept any mouse clicks |
| 03:22.06 | seebs | I am still messing around with getting WoW running better under Linux. Apparently there's an ATI driver bug that causes annoying slowdowns. |
| 03:23.14 | Tuller | seebs: correction: the linux ati driver is just plain slow |
| 03:23.23 | seebs | Well, a little slow I can live with. |
| 03:23.34 | seebs | The problem is the 1/3 to 1/2 second complete freeze under a number of circumstances. |
| 03:23.46 | Xuerian | ATI just bites >.< |
| 03:23.49 | seebs | I'd mostly sorted it, but it turns out that "poisoned weapon hits" triggers it. |
| 03:24.06 | seebs | I don't much like either of the big names in the field right now. |
| 03:24.22 | seebs | I have been toying with the notion of upgrading my video card, but apparently they cost money. |
| 03:25.05 | Bleetah | ati linux drivers are a lot better than they were this time a year ago.. still sucky, but shitload better than this time last year |
| 03:26.19 | seebs | I got an X800 Pro because it was very much on sale; last I checked, I still can't get a better deal, which is sorta scary. |
| 03:27.04 | seebs | I suppose there will be a big price change somewhere in January, probably. |
| 03:32.56 | Bleetah | probably when PS3 starts shipping in larger numbers, and people start (once again) demanding more from their PCs |
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| 03:44.06 | seebs | I am so frustrated with that; I need a PS3 for work, but of course, they can't be had. |
| 03:46.20 | AnduinLothar | need? |
| 03:47.14 | seebs | Well, I have been offered money to write about Linux on PS3. |
| 03:47.18 | seebs | But I can't do that without a PS3 to run Linux on. |
| 03:47.23 | Bleetah | heh |
| 03:47.41 | Bleetah | should it be easier than on the PS2? 'coz that was hell :-/ |
| 03:47.41 | seebs | Which sucks, because I am really badly off financially, due to an editor disappearing without warning for a month. |
| 03:48.14 | seebs | They offer direct support, somewhat crippled; as I understand it, you get 6 of 8 SPEs, half the memory, and no GPU. |
| 03:48.25 | seebs | It's still interesting, and I do a lot of Cell documentation and writing, so it'd be totally worth it for me. |
| 03:48.36 | seebs | Unfortunately, they simply can't be found in stores. |
| 03:50.09 | Corrodias | so... sony basically throws you a crippled version of the console to do with what you want |
| 03:50.55 | Corrodias | while this hardware that you bought will only use its full power on licensed, royaltied, protected software |
| 03:51.30 | MentalPower|ZZzz | I'm sure it can (and will) be cracked |
| 03:51.52 | Bleetah | this is why seebs needs one ;-) :-D |
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| 03:52.45 | TheStig | can anyone tell me what is wrong with this code http://wowi.pastey.net/3839-iqio |
| 03:52.56 | Corrodias | sony never ceases to disappoint |
| 03:55.05 | xsarpedon | If I creae a status bar and a button that overlap, how do I decide which one is on top? |
| 03:55.21 | Xuerian | Frame:SetFrameLevel(int) |
| 03:55.30 | xsarpedon | Thanks :) |
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| 03:58.31 | seebs | Even the crippled one is fine for my purposes. |
| 03:58.38 | seebs | Compared to the cost of a non-crippled Cell system... |
| 03:58.43 | Whitchprince | heyho the nice guys over in norganna recommended I ask here: I am having problems with aguf and xperl.. anyone recommend anything else out there unitframe wise? |
| 03:59.05 | cladhaire | perfectraidzomg |
| 03:59.06 | seebs | I have been using perl classic recently, simply because it works around an ATI driver bug under Linux. |
| 03:59.22 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Do I need to textualize my question? |
| 03:59.31 | Corrodias | praid is great, but it doesn't do much for me in a non-raid situation :) |
| 03:59.32 | cladhaire | nope, its not. |
| 03:59.37 | Xuerian | :P |
| 03:59.46 | cladhaire | Corrodias: thats fine, it does for me, when it displ[ays my party |
| 04:00.13 | Corrodias | i don't recall if it does that normally, but i like less compact information in a party |
| 04:00.32 | Corrodias | especially for my player frame, target frame, and such |
| 04:00.52 | cladhaire | heh |
| 04:00.54 | Whitchprince | hmm havent tried perfectraid yet (don't raid yet, only been playing for 6 weeks ;) |
| 04:01.00 | cladhaire | i was kidding either way =) |
| 04:01.05 | Whitchprince | oh ok |
| 04:01.09 | Xuerian | Whitchprince: Why not go to #wowace and resolve your problems with ag_uf instead of writing it off? :p |
| 04:01.51 | Whitchprince | good question.. basically I have been installing the newest version as soon as its out but auctioneer bugs dont get me killed in the field. |
| 04:01.58 | Corrodias | that requires talking to people who can tell you're just there because you have a problem |
| 04:02.12 | Tain | Perfectraid stole my innocence. |
| 04:02.21 | Xuerian | tain: Lies |
| 04:02.25 | Xuerian | You never had innocence. |
| 04:02.37 | Tain | I did too, she was my roommate for a while. |
| 04:02.45 | Xuerian | Hm. |
| 04:02.46 | Xuerian | Well damn. |
| 04:02.49 | Cairenn | buncha smartasses |
| 04:02.55 | Whitchprince | Corrodias was that directed at me? Were you just presuming I am some antisocial geek or are you a clairvoyant |
| 04:03.00 | Xuerian | Cairenn: <3 |
| 04:03.06 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:03.07 | Corrodias | HEY |
| 04:03.07 | Thunder_Child | ofc Cairenn, they are in like company |
| 04:03.09 | Corrodias | my power just flickered |
| 04:03.29 | Whitchprince | that was me, im god, I didnt like that last sentence of yours |
| 04:03.33 | Whitchprince | dont make me smite you |
| 04:03.37 | Whitchprince | ;) |
| 04:03.48 | Corrodias | and i'm talking about myself. i don't presume to explain why other people i don't know do things. |
| 04:04.13 | Corrodias | i don't like to go hunt down people just to treat them like my personal tech support team |
| 04:04.16 | seebs | Hey, quick sanity check. If you were gonna run "an nvidia card" for WoW under Linux, what would you recommend? 1600x1200 display. Don't much care about more demanding games. |
| 04:04.31 | ZOAS|Naxx | how is PR coming along, Cladhaire? (if it's been discussed earlier here, sorry, attenton focussed on the raid) |
| 04:04.32 | Cairenn | Corrodias: http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/pc.jpg ! |
| 04:04.52 | cladhaire | ZOAS|Naxx: I posted on wowi earlier today, you shoudl read it. |
| 04:04.58 | Whitchprince | good, sorry for getting snappy then.. I love this game but most of the people in it think they swallowed the social encyclopedia.. |
| 04:05.13 | ZOAS|Naxx | your portal page? |
| 04:05.50 | Tain | That's great Cairenn |
| 04:05.51 | Corrodias | i don't like people to think the only reason i want to talk to them is so they can do something for me (like fixing their addons), even if it's true. |
| 04:06.00 | Whitchprince | good point |
| 04:06.34 | Whitchprince | I try and see it as if its a win win.. I take time out of my busy work/play schedule to improve their product, they give me better product |
| 04:06.49 | Whitchprince | kind of works that way in business too ;) |
| 04:06.59 | AnduinLothar | cept you pay them for their time in business |
| 04:07.33 | Whitchprince | ah thats an excellent point. Paying someone for a service isnt always done with money |
| 04:07.49 | Whitchprince | looking at the size of the addon scene it might well be that someday these addons can go shareware |
| 04:08.00 | Whitchprince | the better the addon, the higher the chance someone is willing to donate |
| 04:08.06 | Whitchprince | or help out in some other way |
| 04:08.16 | Tain | I had a secret santa thing tonight with a bunch of friends, we get together every Wednensday night and someone cooks. |
| 04:08.20 | Bleetah | a few addon authors take paypal |
| 04:08.35 | Tain | So the girl who picked my name gave me a six pack of beer and scratch tickets. I feel like I should have driven back to my trailer home. |
| 04:08.42 | cladhaire | ZOAS|Naxx: No, my Cladhaire's Addons forum on wowi |
| 04:09.14 | Whitchprince | and I intend to donate Bleetah as soon as my next paycheck arrives ;) |
| 04:09.32 | Whitchprince | I know I wouldnt be so heavily addicted if my UI wasnt so wonderfully customized |
| 04:09.33 | Xuerian | Tain: Where can I go to get picked by a girl? |
| 04:09.58 | Inside | Xuerian: #gaming-girls on irc.gamesurge.net |
| 04:10.23 | Tain | I think it's because I criticised her for getting store bought baklava when it was her night to cook. Damn greek girls. |
| 04:11.03 | AnduinLothar | hey, at least they like olives |
| 04:11.14 | Whitchprince | and they scream like shit in bed |
| 04:11.17 | Whitchprince | ;) |
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| 04:11.22 | AnduinLothar | yeah, that too |
| 04:11.40 | AnduinLothar | pretty ticklish... |
| 04:11.42 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 04:11.45 | Tain | Well if we're going to get into stereotypes... |
| 04:11.55 | Tain | There's something else those Greek girls do in bed. |
| 04:12.07 | Corrodias | ignore you? |
| 04:12.30 | Whitchprince | 1 zing for corrodias |
| 04:12.39 | Whitchprince | better get witty Tain |
| 04:12.44 | Tain | REally? That's a whole zing? There were much better options. |
| 04:12.44 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 04:12.48 | AnduinLothar | hafl greek, half german is an interesting mix |
| 04:13.02 | Tain | They screw you in the ass while pushing you in the oven? |
| 04:13.14 | Whitchprince | 1 zing for Tain in my direction.. my turn |
| 04:13.24 | Whitchprince | oh and he loses on a Godwins error |
| 04:13.35 | Whitchprince | thanks for playing, try #teachmeflames |
| 04:13.46 | Tain | Hey that wasn't strictly a Godwins invocation. |
| 04:14.03 | Whitchprince | no very loosely but it saved me saying anything smart at 5:12am |
| 04:14.06 | Whitchprince | ;) |
| 04:14.12 | Industrial | yay [Whitemane's Chapeau] |
| 04:14.32 | Tain | What's wrong with the [Blackmane's Chapeau] ? |
| 04:14.37 | Tain | You racist or something? |
| 04:14.51 | Corrodias | blackmane is probably some furry. |
| 04:14.54 | Tain | Fight the power! |
| 04:15.10 | Whitchprince | I think Corrodias tried that earlier |
| 04:15.29 | Industrial | i am bald. |
| 04:15.35 | Industrial | well, on my head |
| 04:15.38 | Industrial | :P |
| 04:15.51 | Industrial | </3 furry |
| 04:16.01 | Whitchprince | you dont shave down below? how 1900's of you |
| 04:16.32 | Industrial | im going to not answer that i think.. yeah :P |
| 04:17.03 | Whitchprince | hey they say it makes it look longer.. wouldn't know I cant see much down there over my belly |
| 04:17.11 | Whitchprince | ;) |
| 04:18.06 | Corrodias | well, it's 10:18pm and i haven't started my final paper for Software Engineering 2, yet. |
| 04:18.53 | Tain | It's 11:18pm and I'm working. |
| 04:21.37 | Xuerian | It's 11:20pm and I'm doing absolutely nothing. Par for the course of my days. |
| 04:22.37 | Cairenn | not true |
| 04:23.22 | Cairenn | your body is still doing its various autonomic functions |
| 04:23.33 | Xuerian | Speaking of which. |
| 04:23.35 | Xuerian | I need a shower... |
| 04:23.38 | Industrial | its 05:23 GMT+1 and im trying to make 36 actionbuttons with the least possible code, but i have yet to produce anything |
| 04:23.51 | AnduinLothar | go go for loops |
| 04:23.58 | Industrial | yesh |
| 04:24.05 | AnduinLothar | I made EarthFeatureFrame standalone |
| 04:24.11 | AnduinLothar | just FeatureFrame now |
| 04:24.17 | Tain | Six scratch tickets, I won $4. |
| 04:24.39 | Industrial | I just discovered I need to use inherit SecureActionButtonTemplate, ActionButtonTemplate |
| 04:24.42 | Industrial | :P |
| 04:25.36 | Tain | I'd really rather have had $15 gift card to Dunkin Donuts or something. Or is it really just flat out wrong to complain about something given as a gift. |
| 04:26.45 | KiphereCE | night ladies. |
| 04:26.51 | KiphereCE | and gentlemen. |
| 04:26.58 | KiphereCE | and cog if he's here. |
| 04:27.06 | KiphereCE | since he doesnt fall into either of the earlier categories O_O! |
| 04:27.16 | Xuerian | tain: quite contrary tonight? |
| 04:27.34 | Industrial | Kiphere|Sleep: /away sleep |
| 04:27.42 | Industrial | Kiphere|Sleep: /nick KiphereCE |
| 04:27.43 | Industrial | :P |
| 04:28.01 | Tain | Me? Contrary? Screw you! I'm not contrary at all! Who do you think you are!? |
| 04:28.20 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: pm |
| 04:28.21 | Xuerian | Tain: I don't think I'm... anybody... <sniff> |
| 04:28.33 | Industrial | thats right you are a nobody! |
| 04:28.35 | Tain | Everyone is someone little butterfly. |
| 04:28.38 | Industrial | ha! |
| 04:28.47 | Xuerian | Pweety butterfwies. |
| 04:28.58 | Xuerian | FWYSWATTAH! |
| 04:29.02 | Industrial | Xuerian: but your wings are torn! hah! |
| 04:29.07 | Cairenn | night Kiphere|Sleep |
| 04:29.12 | Xuerian | o/ Kiphere|Sleep |
| 04:29.24 | Tain | They're not torn, they're pierced. He's a hardcore butterfly. |
| 04:29.34 | Xuerian | When did that happen.... <.< |
| 04:30.32 | AnduinLothar | butterfly painted? |
| 04:30.33 | Tain | It was right after you were declared King of Switzerland. |
| 04:30.36 | Tain | Don't you remember? |
| 04:30.37 | AnduinLothar | or is it a moth? |
| 04:31.09 | Xuerian | Oohh yess, I do remember that..... So much cheeeeeese.... |
| 04:31.13 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/3842 |
| 04:31.20 | Industrial | hokai sho.. why am I not seeing any button |
| 04:31.47 | Tain | That's no cheese, it's a space station. |
| 04:31.48 | Xuerian | Industrial: Girls are made of sugar, spice, and everything nice, but buttons are made of nuttins |
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| 04:32.08 | Xuerian | (Give it some textures.) |
| 04:32.25 | Industrial | (doesnt ActionButtonTemplate give it that?) |
| 04:32.28 | Cairenn | O.o |
| 04:32.45 | Cairenn | you guys are being strange tonight, even moreso than usual |
| 04:32.51 | AnduinLothar | :D |
| 04:32.55 | Tain | It must be in the cheese. |
| 04:33.01 | Cairenn | right ... |
| 04:33.04 | AnduinLothar | I <3 cheese |
| 04:33.11 | Xuerian | Cairenn: You'd think I've had too much Nog, but I haven't even started. =( |
| 04:33.11 | Xuerian | (I don't have the slightest clue.) |
| 04:33.19 | Xuerian | tain: So that would explain why I'm sitting at the butterfly spirit-guide. |
| 04:33.49 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Begun, the Nog wars have. |
| 04:34.16 | Cairenn | mmmm, nog & rum! |
| 04:34.27 | Tain | Float away, little butterfly. Just flutter away. |
| 04:34.30 | AnduinLothar | mmm that sounds good |
| 04:34.34 | cladhaire | ooh |
| 04:34.35 | cladhaire | ice cream |
| 04:34.35 | cladhaire | brb |
| 04:34.37 | Thunder_Child | nog....ferengi dude?...ds9? |
| 04:34.43 | Industrial | lol |
| 04:34.44 | Industrial | . |
| 04:34.45 | AnduinLothar | anyone know a site that has the new pvp costs listed? |
| 04:34.46 | cladhaire | nog always annoyed the shit out of me. |
| 04:34.50 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: wowwiki |
| 04:34.51 | cladhaire | honor page |
| 04:34.54 | AnduinLothar | yay |
| 04:35.05 | Cairenn | nog is good if you spike it |
| 04:36.05 | AnduinLothar | clad, i only see the rank ones, is there one that lists the wsg/ab/av ones? |
| 04:36.18 | Tain | I was going to make home made egg nog last year. |
| 04:36.22 | Tain | Then I read the recipe. |
| 04:36.39 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: Thoise are under each battleground individually |
| 04:36.43 | Tain | And I decided I didn't want to drink raw eggs. |
| 04:36.43 | Xuerian | Tasty, isn't it? |
| 04:36.50 | cladhaire | Anyone know how to force yum to install a non-signed rpm? |
| 04:37.10 | Tain | cladhaire: Try giving it a little wine and playing some Barry White |
| 04:37.17 | cladhaire | hrm.. good point. |
| 04:37.17 | cladhaire | brb |
| 04:37.22 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:38.18 | AnduinLothar | oh sweet pants are only 13125 |
| 04:38.53 | AnduinLothar | weren't they sposed to add tooltips to the item links? |
| 04:40.16 | AnduinLothar | odd, the wsg page doesn't have the pally ones |
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| 04:44.17 | Tain | Woah. The best of all worlds. Eggnog pancakes. http://cookingwithamy.blogspot.com/2006/12/eggnog-pancakes-recipe.html |
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| 04:46.48 | AnduinLothar | server restart O.o |
| 04:46.55 | Gryphen | sounded like it might be good until i saw the picture |
| 04:47.08 | Corrodias | heavy cream -- ew |
| 04:47.22 | Tain | What? Heavy cream is wonderful. |
| 04:47.45 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.57 | Corrodias | too much saturated fat and cholesterol; not enough substance |
| 04:48.05 | AnduinLothar | that's the point |
| 04:48.19 | Tain | In fact I made a delicious chocolate chip pie with a butterscotch sauce that I made with heavy cream just last week. |
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| 04:48.29 | Tain | The fat *is* the substance. |
| 04:49.53 | Shadowed | So anyone know why they are doing an emergency restart? all they mention is a critical hotfix |
| 04:50.05 | AnduinLothar | lol, how do I always end up LookingForGroup channel owner |
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| 04:52.11 | Corrodias | luck, or being on for a long time |
| 04:52.18 | AnduinLothar | idle time prolly |
| 04:57.47 | Roladon | maybe they relalized you get exodar rep in AV and decided to pussy fit about ti |
| 04:57.55 | Roladon | im already revered :-) |
| 05:03.01 | Industrial | with SetBindingClick how do I use shift ctrl and alt? |
| 05:03.12 | cladhaire | press down the shift, or control key |
| 05:03.19 | cladhaire | perhaps the alt one if you feel so inclined. |
| 05:03.26 | cladhaire | "ALT-M" |
| 05:03.33 | Industrial | thanks |
| 05:03.40 | cladhaire | you're welcome |
| 05:03.42 | cladhaire | cladhaire: I hate you. |
| 05:03.45 | Industrial | ALT, CTRL, SHIFT ? |
| 05:03.58 | cladhaire | aye |
| 05:04.06 | Tain | Open Apple X |
| 05:08.33 | xgravix | so what is so important they restart at 9pm |
| 05:08.40 | xgravix | was there another item dupe bug |
| 05:09.29 | TonyD | hmm, I installed garbage_fu, and it doesnb't know any prices |
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| 05:09.41 | TonyD | then I installed garbage_fu_prices, and it didn't help |
| 05:10.07 | Thunder_Child | it learns them as you do |
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| 05:11.14 | TonyD | i thought so too, but it doesn't seem to, cuz I had an item I sold off, then the next time I got the item, it didn't know |
| 05:11.51 | TonyD | maybe installing informant would help? |
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| 05:16.22 | Thunder_Child | i dunno |
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| 05:29.56 | [Cu]Werik | Cairenn, did you see this? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=58796664&sid=1 |
| 05:30.14 | Cairenn | yeah, I saw it |
| 05:31.46 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=58717047&sid=1 and http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=58796675&sid=1 were the two I actually saw, but I knew that at least one of them referred back to a thread on the general forum as well |
| 05:32.06 | Cairenn | ui.wow.net seems to be having a heck of a time lately |
| 05:32.47 | Cairenn | feel bad for them |
| 05:33.54 | [Cu]Werik | :( |
| 05:34.19 | Cairenn | that's what, the fourth time in the last couple months? something like that |
| 05:35.36 | Tierrie | is it ads or something? |
| 05:35.40 | Tierrie | how are they getting hit that badly? |
| 05:35.42 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know. I'm not counting it. But these attacks are quiet common nowadays |
| 05:35.51 | Tierrie | poor chaps :( |
| 05:35.55 | Tierrie | they seem swamped |
| 05:36.17 | [Cu]Werik | both in game and out of game |
| 05:36.33 | Tierrie | hey wow accounts are worth money |
| 05:36.47 | Tierrie | i should code a popup box "r u a haxor or r u affliated with a haxor" |
| 05:36.54 | Tierrie | and if they click on Yes then it will notify the authorities |
| 05:38.05 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know. Everyone is on crack nowadays. I'm getting like 5 emails a week trying to trick me into providing paypal details and stuff like these |
| 05:38.15 | Tierrie | hey you work for curse |
| 05:38.22 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:38.27 | Tierrie | which is like, the equivalent of painting a target sign on your forehead |
| 05:38.49 | [Cu]Werik | eh? |
| 05:39.08 | Cairenn | I get great amusement out of all the ones that are guaranteed to make my dick bigger ... |
| 05:40.10 | TC_Sleeping | hmm...i may have a shirt for you... |
| 05:40.15 | [Cu]Werik | They have discont price now, this is your best chance for christmas |
| 05:40.20 | Corrodias | hey, dickgirls are a big hit on /d/, but i don't know about real-life ones... |
| 05:40.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:41.14 | TC_Sleeping | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=618 |
| 05:41.40 | TC_Sleeping | hmm..they have some really odd new ones |
| 05:41.46 | TC_Sleeping | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=821 |
| 05:41.48 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 05:41.52 | Cairenn | I like that :) |
| 05:42.01 | [Cu]Werik | pf |
| 05:42.08 | TC_Sleeping | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=830 |
| 05:42.16 | Cairenn | love tshirt hell |
| 05:42.23 | Mike-N-Go | Q: What faction do you play more, horde or alliance? |
| 05:42.38 | TC_Sleeping | indeed Cairenn |
| 05:42.51 | Cairenn | I like the first one you linked the best though ;) |
| 05:42.57 | [Cu]Werik | How can you wear tshirts like these |
| 05:43.04 | TC_Sleeping | no kidding |
| 05:43.09 | TC_Sleeping | to Cairenn |
| 05:43.29 | TC_Sleeping | it's easy [Cu]Werik, you slide them over your head.... |
| 05:43.37 | Corrodias | most, if not all (i'm not certain), are legal to wear in public in the US, at least |
| 05:43.50 | Corrodias | maybe not Australia, though. |
| 05:44.30 | TC_Sleeping | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=656 for Cairenn |
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| 05:44.41 | Cairenn | hey now! |
| 05:44.43 | [Cu]Werik | legal to wear? |
| 05:44.51 | TC_Sleeping | heh |
| 05:44.54 | [Cu]Werik | wth, what kind of country are you living:P |
| 05:45.06 | Tierrie | they should make shirts that say "No I don't want a bigger penis" and give them to women |
| 05:45.15 | Thunder_Child | hey, i'm canadian to...but it's still funny |
| 05:45.28 | Corrodias | yeah. you actually won't be forced by law to change your shirt, [Cu]Werik. what country are YOU living in? |
| 05:45.49 | Cairenn | that's right you are, I forgotteded that |
| 05:45.57 | [Cu]Werik | I'm living in Hungary atm:) |
| 05:46.14 | Corrodias | are they pretty restrictive on what you can display in public? :o |
| 05:46.16 | Thunder_Child | i know, it's hard to keep straight |
| 05:46.28 | [Cu]Werik | No? |
| 05:47.08 | Corrodias | then i don't understand what you were trying to say. you seemed so surprised that the shirts are legal to wear. |
| 05:47.19 | Tierrie | this is so cruel http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=559 |
| 05:47.35 | [Cu]Werik | No, I was surprised that you werent certain if that t-shirt is legal to wear |
| 05:47.37 | Cairenn | oh that's just mean |
| 05:47.50 | Corrodias | now that one, i'm not certain. a public display of the word "fuck" might not be allowed in the US. |
| 05:47.59 | Tierrie | uh |
| 05:48.03 | Tierrie | i think you can wear it |
| 05:48.13 | Tierrie | if someone raises an issue you make it a 1st ammendment issue |
| 05:48.17 | Tierrie | but these days who knows |
| 05:48.40 | Industrial | NSFW this one is going to get you smacked by ladies' bags more then twice; http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=719 |
| 05:49.13 | Thunder_Child | ybe |
| 05:49.16 | Thunder_Child | maybe* |
| 05:49.39 | Thunder_Child | it's to bad they got rid of their worse than hell section |
| 05:49.42 | Corrodias | they probably just know what it's like to get it in the eye |
| 05:49.58 | Industrial | YouTube Myspace and ill Google your Yahoo |
| 05:49.59 | Industrial | hahaha |
| 05:50.21 | [Cu]Werik | haha |
| 05:50.28 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=433 so true.... |
| 05:50.54 | Cairenn | hahahahaha! |
| 05:50.59 | Cairenn | either could wear that one |
| 05:51.24 | Thunder_Child | oddly enough, i think this is true... http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=769 |
| 05:51.26 | Cairenn | one is saying that she is just a bitch, the other would be saying that he makes her bitchy |
| 05:52.20 | Industrial | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=826 |
| 05:52.21 | Industrial | oh man |
| 05:52.23 | Industrial | i need that one |
| 05:52.27 | Industrial | thats way cool |
| 05:52.28 | Industrial | :D |
| 05:54.20 | Industrial | "I'm not a full-blooded Jew, I'm Jew-ish" |
| 05:54.55 | Corrodias | i believe they had a "medium pimpin'" shirt that i wanted, but i'm around my parents too much yet |
| 05:54.59 | [Cu]Werik | 829 is interesting |
| 05:55.21 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, thats my shirt right there |
| 05:55.40 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 05:55.59 | Thunder_Child | i want to wear this to temple http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=192 |
| 05:56.01 | Industrial | I still like the STRAIGHT one with they gret rainbow the best |
| 05:56.04 | Thunder_Child | just for kicks |
| 05:56.06 | Industrial | grey* |
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| 05:56.27 | Cairenn | o.O |
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| 05:58.23 | Industrial | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=609 |
| 05:58.29 | Industrial | I own this one, but in dutch |
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| 06:01.28 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 06:01.33 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
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| 06:04.38 | [Cu]Werik | Huh, it's morning already, good night all:P |
| 06:04.46 | Corrodias | ni |
| 06:04.49 | Cairenn | night [Cu]Werik |
| 06:17.03 | Cairenn | I'm out |
| 06:17.05 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 06:17.12 | FelixTeCat | Night |
| 06:21.46 | Industrial | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016180/FrameXML/ActionButton.lua |
| 06:21.56 | Industrial | look at ActionButton_HideGrid |
| 06:22.13 | Industrial | this happens when you let go of a spell when you are dragging one |
| 06:22.26 | Industrial | I cant seem to hook this right - button is nil |
| 06:22.33 | Industrial | I dont understand :S |
| 06:26.05 | Kirov | hmm? |
| 06:26.56 | Industrial | the first and only argument of ActionButton_HideGrid(), I need that in my hook to change stuff to that button |
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| 06:27.47 | Kirov | er, first three lines |
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| 06:27.55 | Kirov | "if not button then button = this |
| 06:30.16 | Industrial | yay it works |
| 06:30.22 | Industrial | but I wonder why its not passed |
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| 06:33.12 | Industrial | Kirov: http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9564/wowscrnshot122106073229gx8.jpg |
| 06:34.00 | AnduinLothar | you dont want action button borders? |
| 06:34.55 | Industrial | thats what im trying to do here, get them to go awai |
| 06:35.06 | AnduinLothar | y? |
| 06:35.16 | Industrial | looks nicer, icons are enlarged too |
| 06:35.22 | Industrial | ill add padding too |
| 06:35.36 | AnduinLothar | why not use the regular 3 blizz bars, move um and hide the border? |
| 06:37.11 | Industrial | I have tried that |
| 06:38.47 | Industrial | Im trying it again |
| 06:38.51 | Industrial | ;P |
| 06:44.22 | Kirov | or use bartender |
| 06:45.45 | Industrial | I dont need all that, this is 50 lines of code |
| 06:48.41 | Industrial | noooo not that problem again |
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| 06:50.25 | Industrial | http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/906/wowscrnshot122106074930tu1.jpg |
| 06:50.33 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/3844 |
| 06:50.45 | Industrial | they have the same id's |
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| 06:52.35 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: any idea? |
| 06:53.22 | AnduinLothar | change the SetID |
| 06:54.00 | Industrial | yeah but the strange thing is that im not doing anything with id's |
| 06:54.02 | Industrial | am i |
| 06:54.02 | Industrial | > |
| 06:54.33 | AnduinLothar | doesn't look like it |
| 06:55.01 | Industrial | and for setid i'd have to have the id but im looping through 2-12 all the time |
| 06:56.01 | AnduinLothar | have a local parent itterator |
| 06:56.42 | Industrial | hm |
| 06:57.00 | AnduinLothar | it might use the frame name if there's no id set |
| 06:57.54 | Industrial | yeah that worked |
| 06:58.49 | Tierrie | hey Anduin are you still working on Wardrobe? |
| 06:58.56 | AnduinLothar | slowly, yes |
| 06:59.12 | Tierrie | whats your primary UI atm\ |
| 07:00.21 | Industrial | addon/mod* |
| 07:00.36 | AnduinLothar | um... |
| 07:00.52 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI |
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| 07:01.07 | s|loup | hi |
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| 07:02.23 | Industrial | http://pastecode.com/10356 |
| 07:02.29 | Industrial | pastey.net just stopped working |
| 07:02.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 07:07.16 | Industrial | Does anyone know the CVar that controls wether you see player names or not? |
| 07:07.46 | Industrial | ever since the last patch blizzard has been turning that off every 20 seconds - its REALLY anoying |
| 07:07.51 | Industrial | like the chat tabs reappearing |
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| 07:59.06 | Dhraga | Morning all |
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| 08:33.05 | LoneVandal | Anyone know of a good PvP addon pack for Mages that works right now? |
| 08:33.20 | LoneVandal | Or at least, some good basic addons I could use? |
| 08:39.17 | Industrial | there are more things that are good that work for every class then there atre things that only work for mages that are good |
| 08:39.25 | LoneVandal | Ah |
| 08:39.28 | LoneVandal | Could you suggest a few? |
| 08:39.47 | LoneVandal | I thought I saw something that tells you when you're being targetted, does that work on Rogues that are stealthed? :O |
| 08:40.03 | Industrial | well there are many kinds of addons, it depends on what you want :) |
| 08:40.13 | Industrial | LoneVandal: no I dont think so |
| 08:40.26 | LoneVandal | I want addons that will give me an edge in PvP or at least null the edge people have from addons |
| 08:40.45 | Industrial | http://wowace.com/files/BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert-r21659.zip |
| 08:40.51 | Industrial | this one flashes your screen red once |
| 08:40.56 | Industrial | and a sound clip |
| 08:40.59 | Industrial | when you get aggro |
| 08:41.11 | s|loup | maybe enemycastbar for showing what your enemys cast |
| 08:41.21 | LoneVandal | Enemycastbar sounds like a winner |
| 08:41.22 | Industrial | blizzard has that now |
| 08:41.27 | LoneVandal | Has what now? |
| 08:41.33 | Industrial | an enemy cast bar |
| 08:41.34 | s|loup | yes but just for your target |
| 08:41.36 | Industrial | for your target |
| 08:41.55 | s|loup | thaught that eney castbar also works for enemys that you have not targetted |
| 08:42.06 | LoneVandal | It shows spells being cast on you? |
| 08:42.12 | LoneVandal | Or just spells being cast near you? |
| 08:42.19 | s|loup | secoond ;) |
| 08:42.23 | LoneVandal | argh |
| 08:42.30 | LoneVandal | Only by enemies or by anyone? |
| 08:42.30 | axxo | both |
| 08:42.55 | LoneVandal | Oh and |
| 08:43.01 | LoneVandal | Is Gatherbook still being supported? |
| 08:43.23 | Industrial | LoneVandal: generally theres no I WIN button addon :) Its fun to customize your interface. You should take a look at wowinterface.com in every category and see what kinds of addons there are |
| 08:43.40 | LoneVandal | Or any other good money making addons |
| 08:44.20 | LoneVandal | I know Auctioneer is almost ready for 2.0.1 |
| 08:44.25 | Industrial | Like I said, no IWIN button addon :P |
| 08:44.31 | LoneVandal | Right but every addon does something useful |
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| 08:44.31 | AnduinLothar | most do, yes |
| 08:44.31 | axxo | money making addons |
| 08:44.33 | LoneVandal | Saving you time / giving you information = giving you an edge |
| 08:44.47 | axxo | you sir made my day |
| 08:44.47 | LoneVandal | Gatherbook, it shows you where every damn herb is |
| 08:44.48 | LoneVandal | That is a money maker :P |
| 08:44.48 | Industrial | http://wowace.com/files/ |
| 08:44.48 | Industrial | check out Cartographer and Chronometer |
| 08:44.53 | LoneVandal | Auctioneer tells you when it sees shit being priced too low |
| 08:44.57 | LoneVandal | That is also a money maker :P |
| 08:44.57 | Industrial | and if you are into pvp Capping |
| 08:45.23 | Industrial | its author(s?) are sitting right here :P |
| 08:45.30 | seebs | So, I have to provide localization support for a mod. What is a good way to do this that will make it easy for users to add localized versions? |
| 08:45.46 | seebs | Is there a canonical way? |
| 08:46.12 | LoneVandal | Is Antagonist good? |
| 08:46.30 | Industrial | yep |
| 08:46.41 | LoneVandal | Yep to him or me? |
| 08:46.45 | Industrial | you |
| 08:47.10 | Industrial | theres too many of the same kinds of addon to really say that one is better then the other, just try a few |
| 08:47.12 | LoneVandal | What about ArcHUD2? If there were pictures I wouldn't ask so much |
| 08:47.52 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Main_Page wowinterface.com |
| 08:47.54 | Industrial | :P |
| 08:48.15 | LoneVandal | So you guys made Ace? |
| 08:48.33 | Kirov | some of the people in this channel have a hand in Ace, yes |
| 08:48.34 | Industrial | there is an ace channel, #wowace |
| 08:49.01 | s|loup | @seebs: each language should have an own localization file, thats the best way |
| 08:50.23 | LoneVandal | Capping looks really useful |
| 08:50.47 | Industrial | its very useful |
| 08:50.55 | Wobin | name the file localization_enUS.lua or somesuch |
| 08:51.02 | Wobin | for ease of recognition |
| 08:51.09 | Industrial | automatic av quest turnins etc |
| 08:51.19 | Wobin | I <3 capping |
| 08:51.28 | Wobin | that and BGFu covers my pvp needs |
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| 08:53.41 | LoneVandal | What about FuBar? |
| 08:53.45 | LoneVandal | I'm totally out of the addon scene |
| 08:53.52 | LoneVandal | I haven't been playing WoW in like 6 months |
| 08:54.08 | LoneVandal | For like 6 months I should say |
| 08:56.00 | Industrial | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php? |
| 08:56.02 | Industrial | have fun |
| 08:56.10 | LoneVandal | Yeah, I'm there |
| 08:56.25 | LoneVandal | Do you guys like FuBar? Or this whole "Fu" system |
| 08:56.28 | LoneVandal | It reminds me of Titanbar |
| 08:56.39 | Kirov | That's what it was designed to replace. |
| 08:56.44 | LoneVandal | Oh? |
| 08:56.49 | Kirov | It's basically a more efficient Titanbar |
| 08:56.49 | LoneVandal | Ok cool |
| 08:57.19 | MoonWolf | a more better titanpanel |
| 08:57.27 | MoonWolf | weird sentence intended. |
| 08:58.23 | Industrial | hey moon |
| 08:58.24 | Industrial | \how are you |
| 08:58.28 | Industrial | havent seen you in a while |
| 08:58.43 | a-stray-cat | man, i like writing addons but absolutely hate writing options for them >< |
| 08:58.44 | Industrial | still makin stuff? |
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| 08:58.51 | Industrial | a-stray-cat: welcome to my world |
| 08:59.01 | Kirov | One of the most curious aspects of Fubar vs. Titan is that Fubar plugins don't actually need Fubar to work. They automagically become minimap icons if Fubar doesn't exist. |
| 08:59.04 | Industrial | a-stray-cat: I hardcode everything but then yeah im my only user :P |
| 08:59.08 | a-stray-cat | even with fubar and dewdrop making it relatively easy, its still a pain |
| 08:59.30 | Industrial | Kirov: my doing :D I whined for that for a long time :> |
| 08:59.43 | a-stray-cat | i love that feature |
| 08:59.45 | Wobin | a-stray-cat: I have to say, if it weren't for AceConsole and AceOptions, I'd have stabbed someone long ago =P |
| 09:00.06 | a-stray-cat | i have forsake AceOptions tables ;P |
| 09:00.09 | Industrial | brb food |
| 09:00.41 | MoonWolf | I r fine. |
| 09:00.41 | Industrial | gud |
| 09:00.41 | MoonWolf | but rather busy |
| 09:00.41 | a-stray-cat | im just using fubar and dewdrop ;( |
| 09:00.41 | Kirov | options in ace addons are usually teh-suk |
| 09:01.02 | Wobin | At least dewdrop AddLine is relatively intuitive in the writing |
| 09:01.09 | Wobin | for menu options |
| 09:01.20 | Kirov | It's really tempting to use dewdrop to do my addons' options though. |
| 09:01.30 | Kirov | It's honestly the only reason I can think of to move to Ace |
| 09:01.33 | Wobin | I just like how AceOptions translate directly to dewdrop |
| 09:01.41 | Wobin | so you don't have to write so much |
| 09:02.09 | MoonWolf | also, write anice aceoptions table, tada instant ui with deucecommander. |
| 09:02.17 | Wobin | It's true. |
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| 09:03.14 | a-stray-cat | i cant figure out how to do what im doing with dewdrop |
| 09:03.16 | a-stray-cat | with aceoptions |
| 09:03.26 | Wobin | oh sometimes you can't |
| 09:03.37 | Wobin | if you want dynamic menus you can't use AceOptions |
| 09:03.45 | a-stray-cat | mainly because at certain levels i have options that need to have spaces and are dynamic |
| 09:03.46 | a-stray-cat | ah |
| 09:03.49 | Wobin | eg, FuBar_HeyFu is pretty much all dewdrop |
| 09:04.06 | Wobin | well, you can... |
| 09:04.11 | Wobin | by redefining the table each time |
| 09:04.14 | Wobin | but it gets fiddly |
| 09:04.21 | Wobin | and much easier to do with just Dewdrop |
| 09:04.25 | a-stray-cat | ;o |
| 09:04.52 | a-stray-cat | my first mod's aceoptions are aboslutely terrible :P |
| 09:05.10 | a-stray-cat | so terrible that a friend of mine actually wrote a fubar plugin for it using dewdrop menus ;o |
| 09:05.21 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:05.25 | a-stray-cat | and it works much better ;P |
| 09:07.13 | a-stray-cat | omg this home depot commercial is evil |
| 09:07.17 | a-stray-cat | a cop pulling over santa |
| 09:07.17 | a-stray-cat | wth |
| 09:07.50 | Kirov | "License and registration please." |
| 09:08.08 | Kirov | santa can @#%! fly, how'd a cop catch him? |
| 09:08.30 | a-stray-cat | clearly he was hitting the eggnog, and crashed |
| 09:08.38 | a-stray-cat | just look at those rosy cheeks. |
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| 09:20.03 | Industrial | I dont celebrate christmas, i celebrate Sinterklaas :D |
| 09:20.04 | Industrial | right MoonWolf ? |
| 09:20.46 | MoonWolf | you should celebrate both! |
| 09:20.50 | MoonWolf | more presents./ |
| 09:21.12 | Industrial | I dont get any :( I get to walk around in my Pietenpakje though |
| 09:21.29 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 09:21.32 | [Ammo] | hahahaha |
| 09:21.34 | [Ammo] | owned :p |
| 09:21.38 | MoonWolf | poor indu. |
| 09:22.06 | MoonWolf | [Ammo], hows the kiddo ? |
| 09:22.09 | [Ammo] | fine :) |
| 09:22.15 | [Ammo] | he's doing great |
| 09:22.22 | [Ammo] | and as he's being breastfed I get sleep :p |
| 09:22.34 | Industrial | heh |
| 09:22.37 | MoonWolf | yay sleep |
| 09:25.07 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:25.16 | Industrial | the nut taped the whole 1-60 play |
| 09:26.40 | a-stray-cat | you pay for that? |
| 09:26.46 | a-stray-cat | ;O |
| 09:26.51 | Industrial | no? |
| 09:26.53 | Industrial | ;0 |
| 09:26.58 | Industrial | ack |
| 09:27.00 | Industrial | ;O |
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| 09:39.43 | xgravix | wtf how do you get to 60 in 4 days |
| 09:43.56 | a-stray-cat | you use Joana's guide |
| 09:44.07 | Corrodias | about 4.5 days of played time (not real time) |
| 09:44.33 | Corrodias | i'm not hardcore enough for that, though |
| 09:44.39 | a-stray-cat | not sure why that'd be any fun, but i suppose if you really want to get a hunter up asap |
| 09:45.03 | Corrodias | perhaps playing a low level warrior makes you want to shield bash your own head in |
| 09:46.23 | xgravix | i play 10 days still only level 40 |
| 09:46.34 | xgravix | maybe i need buy the guide |
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| 09:50.20 | VoidRaider | morning all :) |
| 09:50.50 | a-stray-cat | mornin |
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| 09:55.25 | AnduinLothar | I haven't lvled in 116days /played... can that guide help me? |
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| 10:00.35 | Corrodias | depends. are those 116 days spent at level 60? do you ever do anything except idle and test addons? |
| 10:01.33 | Corrodias | it will inform you that standing around in stormwind isn't going to get you experience, i'm sure. :) |
| 10:04.11 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 10:04.51 | AnduinLothar | i do have an alt at lvl 11 with like 30 dayas play time, who's never been outside of elywyn forest except for sw |
| 10:05.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | rp cybering char |
| 10:07.31 | Corrodias | that explains it |
| 10:07.49 | Corrodias | i remember reading about this one incident... |
| 10:08.19 | Corrodias | but it was probably not something that actually happened. |
| 10:10.16 | Corrodias | as the story goes, a pair of people were cybersexing it up in an out-of-the-way but apparently publicly accessible space. i don't know if it was in WoW. this server enforced roleplaying, and apparently they decided to use /say to express their text to each other. Some guy happened upon them and hid, listening in on them. once they discovered him, they were upset with him in an OOC way for listening in, but he protested that it's totally IC to pe |
| 10:10.46 | Corrodias | that hinges on too many unlikely coincidences for me to say that it's even "probably true". i'd have to go with a solid "maybe". |
| 10:11.06 | Corrodias | maybe, at best. perhaps even "unlikely". |
| 10:12.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Check out some of the WoW stuff on SomethingAwful.com |
| 10:12.58 | ZealotOnAStick | There's even screenshots. |
| 10:14.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | gasp |
| 10:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you a goon zealot |
| 10:16.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Nah. |
| 10:18.23 | Corrodias | somethingawful rather irritates me, but i'll see if i can find what you're talking about |
| 10:24.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_122006_155831d53.jpg |
| 10:24.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry |
| 10:25.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and no that's not a photoshop, it's real, but got hotfixed a few hours ago at most :p |
| 10:25.30 | Corrodias | it seems SA's humor relies entirely on belitlling people and what they like to do. it's just not my bag. |
| 10:26.10 | Corrodias | AP stacking bug, rabies? |
| 10:29.46 | Corrodias | why does he evacuate after pasting such a link? |
| 10:29.58 | Corrodias | do you not realize that we may have questions for you? POOR US |
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| 10:36.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry i'm back, went to get some food :p |
| 10:36.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah rampage was bugging |
| 10:36.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | zoning in and out of an instance kept the buff and it could stack |
| 10:36.55 | MoonWolf | ooooh |
| 10:36.56 | MoonWolf | nice |
| 10:36.59 | MoonWolf | want that too. |
| 10:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | worked with windfury or something too i hear |
| 10:49.08 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, you can use pairs(t) to see if a table is empty (it will return nil) |
| 10:49.38 | AnduinLothar | erm |
| 10:49.41 | AnduinLothar | next(t) |
| 10:50.30 | Corrodias | you have no other way to see if a table is empty? |
| 10:50.45 | Corrodias | *do you |
| 10:50.52 | AnduinLothar | #t == 0 but that only works if the keys are all indecies |
| 10:52.28 | Elkano | function table_empty(t) for _ in pairs(t) do return false end return true end ;) |
| 10:52.42 | AnduinLothar | which is 10x longer |
| 10:52.55 | AnduinLothar | than if (next(t)) then |
| 10:53.03 | Elkano | I know ^^' |
| 10:53.27 | Silviu- | AnduinLothar btw sorry for that spam on wowi :) |
| 10:53.33 | Silviu- | on dmm page :> |
| 10:53.56 | AnduinLothar | w/e. blizz bug. it's actually fixed in beta i think |
| 10:54.06 | Silviu- | I hope ;) |
| 10:54.15 | Silviu- | Now this version works nice |
| 10:54.21 | Silviu- | No blocked till now |
| 10:54.22 | Silviu- | :> |
| 10:54.23 | Corrodias | i see |
| 10:54.37 | Corrodias | the next(t) thing is a bug? |
| 10:54.40 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 10:54.46 | Corrodias | that can't be right... what are you talking about, then? |
| 10:54.46 | AnduinLothar | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-next |
| 10:54.56 | AnduinLothar | was just reading on it |
| 10:55.11 | Corrodias | i mean what's the bug? |
| 10:56.09 | AnduinLothar | oh, the blizz bug |
| 10:56.23 | Corrodias | that one, yes. what is it? |
| 10:56.41 | AnduinLothar | Frames Protected by association aren't unprotected |
| 10:57.29 | AnduinLothar | -- Out of Combat |
| 10:57.29 | AnduinLothar | ProtectedFrameA:SetAllPoints(NonProtectedFrameB); |
| 10:57.30 | AnduinLothar | ProtectedFrameA:ClearAllPoints(); |
| 10:57.30 | AnduinLothar | -- Enter Combat |
| 10:57.30 | AnduinLothar | NonProtectedFrameB:Show(); -- Generates ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED, as do any of the other protected frame calls, even tho this frame is no longer associated with a protected frame |
| 10:57.53 | Corrodias | aaah. |
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| 11:50.59 | Industrial | ah man why did the mayor have to dei that was a bitchslap in my face :( |
| 11:51.11 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 11:51.16 | Industrial | Ghost in the Shell |
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| 11:56.00 | xgravix | Excel Saga |
| 11:58.29 | phyber | Industrial: that sucks. they could have put him in a new body or something. |
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| 11:58.37 | phyber | did their budget not allow for it? :/ |
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| 12:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | put his mind on the internets like the major did |
| 12:15.37 | Industrial | her*, watch the last episode |
| 12:15.39 | AnduinLothar | O.o did chronos go low bandwidth? |
| 12:16.07 | AnduinLothar | i'm not recieving the css or something that positions the data |
| 12:17.48 | Industrial | I am |
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| 12:20.12 | AnduinLothar | hmmm my wow ping is 1kms too |
| 12:20.21 | AnduinLothar | maybe my isp is being dumb again |
| 12:20.40 | Corrodias | one thousand thousandths of a second... nice |
| 12:21.06 | AnduinLothar | ... |
| 12:21.07 | Industrial | google code is erroring :( |
| 12:21.33 | AnduinLothar | well i figured out what was causing Telepathy-Versions and TellTrack Errors.... |
| 12:21.39 | AnduinLothar | Chronos was fubared... |
| 12:21.48 | AnduinLothar | fixed now, whee |
| 12:21.55 | AnduinLothar | yay for misbehaving libs |
| 12:24.14 | AnduinLothar | wowi's snowy :) |
| 12:33.08 | xsarpedon | Is there a way to get the height from a virtual frame without creating a temporary instance? |
| 12:36.04 | Kaso | hmm |
| 12:36.13 | Kaso | i thought all blizzard's frames were secure |
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| 12:42.11 | TheStig | does anyone know what is wrong with this code? http://wowi.pastey.net/3839-iqio |
| 12:46.24 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 12:46.31 | Kaso | http://wowi.pastey.net/3851 |
| 12:46.33 | Kaso | try that |
| 12:46.38 | foxlit | line 18 should be ding = tonumber(ding) |
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| 12:48.50 | TheStig | thank you |
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| 13:02.48 | TheStig | man its still not working.. i dunno why it looks fine |
| 13:04.31 | Industrial | http://industrial-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/idActionbar/ |
| 13:04.32 | Industrial | :) |
| 13:05.18 | foxlit | TheStig: checked if your sound is muted? |
| 13:05.39 | [Cu]Werik | Morning yo:) |
| 13:05.45 | foxlit | Code works for me. |
| 13:05.54 | TheStig | which did you use? |
| 13:06.00 | TheStig | kaso's or what you said |
| 13:06.38 | Wobin | Have they changed GetFactionInfo? |
| 13:12.53 | TheStig | fox: hate to keep bugging you, but can you pastey me exactly what you're doing? |
| 13:13.06 | TheStig | i can't seem to get it to work and lol yes my sound is on ;) |
| 13:14.20 | Kaso | TheStig that code it pasted worked fine on my end have you tried it? |
| 13:14.49 | TheStig | yeah.. when i type <ding1> <ding2> etc. it doesn't work at all |
| 13:14.59 | TheStig | maybe something i am using is preventing it from parsing the chat log |
| 13:15.47 | Kaso | well, i accidently changed RAID to SAY on my code, cos i wanted to test it out of a party |
| 13:15.52 | Kaso | but other than that it works |
| 13:15.59 | foxlit | Kaso's code worked for me through luapad |
| 13:16.00 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/3851 |
| 13:16.33 | foxlit | Tested with /say <ding1>, sound comes out okay |
| 13:16.56 | TheStig | i think my japanese text addon is preventing chat parsing let me unload that and try it |
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| 13:27.11 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmmm i read at my guild forum that they got a keylogger on ui . worldofwar . net <- so u better not visit it |
| 13:28.27 | Industrial | http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9308/wowscrnshot122106142608mz8.jpg |
| 13:28.29 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 13:28.30 | Industrial | kawaii |
| 13:29.41 | Mikma | keylogger at www-page? |
| 13:29.50 | Industrial | Mikma: ! |
| 13:30.03 | Industrial | how are you :D |
| 13:30.10 | Mikma | tired as tire :D |
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| 13:30.56 | Mikma | <CLICK HERE TO INSTALL KEYLOGGER> *click* omg omg omg |
| 13:31.09 | Industrial | well Mikma im 12k away from L30 |
| 13:31.13 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.21 | Mikma | Industrial: i'm like 3k away from 20 |
| 13:32.06 | Industrial | 20? |
| 13:32.17 | Mikma | yeap |
| 13:32.18 | Industrial | what server? |
| 13:32.26 | Mikma | Alonsus EU, lolliance |
| 13:32.42 | Industrial | ack |
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| 13:35.20 | phyber | Industrial: is that your highest level character ever? :) |
| 13:35.36 | Industrial | that I leveled 100% myself yes :P |
| 13:35.55 | Industrial | I had a 50 warrior that I leveled to 56, but im playing on EU again now |
| 13:36.04 | Corrodias | ui.worldofwar.net is pretty reliable, i should think, although i rarely visit it |
| 13:36.15 | Industrial | Mikma: pm |
| 13:36.37 | Corrodias | INDUSTRIAL! |
| 13:36.48 | Corrodias | name that quest list addon in the screenshot. |
| 13:37.03 | phyber | FuBar_QuestFu |
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| 13:37.28 | Corrodias | really? but i note it's not on a bar... so why is it prefixed with fubar_ ? |
| 13:37.44 | Corrodias | not *gasp* flexibility in mode of display? |
| 13:37.53 | phyber | FuBar addons don't need fubar to work. because they're uber. |
| 13:38.18 | Industrial | FuBar_QuestsFu |
| 13:38.28 | phyber | :o one letter off :p |
| 13:38.57 | AnduinLothar | ckk, made the fubar plugin embedable and default to a minimap button if FuBar isn't availible |
| 13:38.57 | Industrial | only fubar addon i NEED and could never play without |
| 13:39.10 | Corrodias | even including fubar, apparently |
| 13:40.56 | Corrodias | is fubar_questfu not available on wowi or am i just searching badly again? |
| 13:41.29 | Corrodias | questsfu.. never mind |
| 13:43.08 | Corrodias | i'm going to drop monkeyquest in favor of questsfu when i start playing again, whenever THAT will be. okay, time for a few hours of sleep, then it's back to work on my last task of my educational career ever! |
| 13:56.54 | Industrial | Mikma: !! |
| 14:00.13 | Industrial | Corrodias: \o/ |
| 14:01.31 | Kaso | howcome when i do GetScript() on a blizzard frame, that variable isnt secure? |
| 14:02.45 | Kaso | eg fred = PaperDollFrame:GetScript() issecurevariable("fred") == false |
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| 14:12.05 | Mikma | Industrial: hi 2 u 2 :D |
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| 14:16.19 | TheStig | foxlit, kaso, thanks a lot. i got it working finally - my unicode text addon was preventing other addons from parsing the chat log - well not completely but all the addons were seeing was that a line had been made but unable to see the contents of that line |
| 14:16.30 | TheStig | i merged the code into my unicode text addon and it works well now |
| 14:17.09 | Kaso | cool, i wonder, what purpose does your that code have? |
| 14:17.15 | Kaso | seems a bit odd |
| 14:17.22 | TheStig | well |
| 14:18.14 | TheStig | i want to be able to have it so that the tank can use one of the dings to announce he has used a hate getting ability, mages will announce when they're about to nuke, etc. so that even if you miss the text scrolling by you can still know what is going on |
| 14:18.38 | TheStig | i'm running a raid group without vent etc. |
| 14:19.08 | Kaso | dear god why? |
| 14:19.14 | Kaso | (the no vent thing) |
| 14:19.14 | TheStig | no one has it |
| 14:19.23 | nevcairiel | make em get it ? :D |
| 14:19.42 | TheStig | most have no mics and several can't spare the bandwidth |
| 14:20.06 | TheStig | i've raided like this in other mmos with the calls thing |
| 14:20.06 | nevcairiel | you seriously shouldnt play on dialup |
| 14:20.15 | TheStig | so it will work |
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| 14:30.36 | Neuro | I just realized something very odd... there's no Spark in the default channeling bar |
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| 14:46.56 | Bouvi | Good morning people of infinite knowledge |
| 14:48.08 | Cairenn | moring Bouvi |
| 14:48.15 | Cairenn | morning* |
| 14:49.25 | Bouvi | 2 more days and I am off till next Thursday!!! |
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| 15:15.16 | Kiphere|work | Morning, folks. |
| 15:15.23 | Cairenn | hi Kiphere|work |
| 15:15.43 | Kiphere|work | you all missed me terribly, I can see it in your pixels. |
| 15:16.22 | Cairenn | I've been desolate |
| 15:16.50 | Kiphere|work | I've got a nice relaxed day today, only really need to put together 2 diagrams for a couple of networks that I'm building early next year and pick up a couple encryptors from another building, other than that I'm free to stay here and allow you all to bask in my warming glow. |
| 15:17.01 | Bouvi | Bout time you got here we were preparing the search party |
| 15:17.33 | Kiphere|work | I had to play the corporate politics game this morning. |
| 15:17.54 | Kiphere|work | I'm not sure but I think I moved two pawns and a rook into good position :P |
| 15:17.57 | Bouvi | I hope you got to be the Car. I hate being stuck with the boot or something like that. |
| 15:18.22 | Kiphere|work | I have the hat. |
| 15:18.27 | Kiphere|work | I like the hat. |
| 15:18.29 | Bouvi | Ohhh good choice |
| 15:19.07 | Kiphere|work | I've gotta look into school for next year. |
| 15:19.35 | Kiphere|work | if i don't finish my degree soon I'm gonna miss an opportunity to take over my shop when we get our new folks in 08 and they create a management slot. |
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| 15:32.33 | Kiphere|work | The trick is for me to get Lockheed to pay for as much of my school as possible by going to a degree program they approve of (job related) then swapping to a degree I want where all my credits transfer over and coming out of pocket for the remainder to get a degree thats applicable to my new career choice ;) |
| 15:33.12 | Kirkburn|afk | lol, the first sentence from a news story about a new release on Neowin ... read it carefully: "Yahoo Mail Beta is now faster, bug-ridden and has a few new features." |
| 15:33.33 | krka | dont even have to read it carefully |
| 15:38.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Well aren't you too cool for school :P |
| 15:41.23 | amro | nothing like honestry |
| 15:41.29 | amro | honesty* |
| 15:42.06 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 15:42.43 | Kirkburn|afk | And in other news from the land of .... something? ... we have this wonderful gem: http://biblenews1.com/ |
| 15:43.50 | Kiphere|work | my hand smells like jelly beans |
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| 15:44.22 | amro | "NASA successfully launched the STS-116 Space Shuttle from Kennedy Space Center Florida at 8:47/35 PM EST (0147/35 GMT), the first night launch in over four years." |
| 15:44.25 | amro | how is that relevant? |
| 15:45.06 | Inside | >_> |
| 15:45.07 | Inside | Why not? |
| 15:45.19 | Inside | I don't mind articles like that |
| 15:45.48 | Inside | At least it's not a stupud "Need Another Seven Astronauts" NASA story. |
| 15:45.55 | Inside | s/stupud/stupid |
| 15:46.19 | Inside | For some reason people get all offended about an article reporting "Hey, nothing media hypeable here about some minor disaster" |
| 15:46.44 | Kiphere|work | the irony of mispelling stupid is awesome. |
| 15:46.48 | Kiphere|work | It's almost tangible. |
| 15:46.51 | Kiphere|work | ^_^ |
| 15:47.06 | Inside | yes, the ironing is delcious |
| 15:47.13 | Inside | but I've less than 4 hours of sleep |
| 15:47.16 | Inside | so I'm falling apart right now |
| 15:48.34 | Kiphere|work | News can't exist outside of something that involves, A. Fetus and/or their destruction, B. Something cute, C. The World Trade Center, D. Why we should/'nt hate X nation for being Y religion that wants our way of life to cease. E. Bush kissed a baby. |
| 15:48.55 | Kiphere|work | which is why I only read tech news. |
| 15:49.20 | Kiphere|work | Cairenn: You see this on worldofraids? http://www.worldofraids.com/v2/ |
| 15:49.36 | Inside | What, you mean A. PS3 SUCKS. B. XBOX 360 SUCKS. C. Sony Sucks. D. Wii is our saviour. E. Microsoft sucks. F. Open sores software is our saviour! E. Nintendo can do nothign wrong etc |
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| 15:50.10 | Cairenn | yeah, I've heard about them |
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| 15:52.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, I love this PA comic :) http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/18 |
| 15:53.49 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.50 | Inside | o_O |
| 15:53.51 | Inside | wtf |
| 15:53.57 | Kiphere|work | Inside: I deal with the random crap about the consoles during heavy launches. |
| 15:54.01 | Bouvi | Speaking of which Best Buy needs to let me pre-order the BC collectors edition!!! (Wife and I have enough gift cards saved up there to buy it) |
| 15:54.39 | Kiphere|work | I read tech blogs the same way I read the general forums. I filter the bullshit for the tiny bits of corn.. err factual information and I find them helpful |
| 15:55.21 | Kiphere|work | Inside: that comic makes way more sense if you read the article that was posted with it heh |
| 15:55.29 | Kiphere|work | but PA is one of my daily sites. |
| 15:56.42 | zenzelezz | Welcome to the European World of Warcraft Realms! [SERVER] Restart in 0:45 |
| 15:56.45 | zenzelezz | nice timing |
| 15:59.02 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 15:59.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Kiphere|work, about the keylogger stuff, it's been sorted on both sites now at least |
| 16:00.47 | Kirkburn|afk | It'd be cool if security could be increased past just a password on accounts |
| 16:01.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Like some kind of mouse-controlled method ... or something |
| 16:01.56 | Kiphere|work | O_o |
| 16:02.20 | Kiphere|work | I can't really think of any type of mouse controlled security feature that would be even remotely valid. |
| 16:02.32 | Kiphere|work | 'maybe' having to manually click a number key in |
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| 16:03.27 | Kiphere|work | what they could do is create an authorized computer system like subscription music software has. |
| 16:03.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Kiphere, yeah like clicking a number key |
| 16:03.55 | Kiphere|work | it'd be ugly but ultimately helpful I think |
| 16:04.05 | Kirkburn|afk | How do they work? |
| 16:04.21 | Kiphere|work | basically you define how many machines can log into the account and what machines they are. |
| 16:04.37 | Kiphere|work | for like Rhapsody there's a limit. 3 machines for the account can be authorized. |
| 16:04.54 | Kiphere|work | you can only authorize/deauthorize a machine from an authorized machine |
| 16:04.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, I don't think that would go down well |
| 16:05.07 | Kiphere|work | they don't have to put a limit on it for WoW. |
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| 16:05.14 | Kirkburn|afk | A fair number of people like to play from internet cafes when abroad |
| 16:05.46 | Kiphere|work | they could also impliment a weak password encryption method. |
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| 16:06.33 | Kirkburn|afk | It scares me that a short password is all that there is between me and losing nearly 2 years of work :/ |
| 16:06.46 | Kiphere|work | but bottom line is, the username password concept is about as far as many companies are willing to go with account security for something like this, the rest falls on the user. |
| 16:07.04 | Kiphere|work | They're good about fixing hacked accounts though Kirk. |
| 16:07.18 | Kiphere|work | I actualy lost one because i logged in at a friends house and he had a keylogger on his machine |
| 16:07.37 | Kiphere|work | whoever got on DEed everything I had and transfered it to his main account. |
| 16:07.39 | Kaso | Does anyone know how the new metatables system work, speicifcally how would i use em to hook all GameTooltip:SetUnitDebuff ? |
| 16:07.42 | Kiphere|work | then deleted all the characters. |
| 16:08.05 | Kiphere|work | blizz got me everything back within a couple weeks except my enchants which sucked but at least I got everything else back |
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| 16:13.24 | Kiphere|work | are there any user definable ways to call applications from outide of WoW, inside of WoW? |
| 16:13.56 | Gngsk | no? |
| 16:14.05 | Gngsk | other than maybe iTunes on a mac |
| 16:14.13 | Bouvi | You mean something like showing Teamspeak names or operating iTunes? |
| 16:14.14 | cogwheel | Kiphere|work: there's no way to communicate with the outside world from the UI system |
| 16:14.22 | cogwheel | in realtime |
| 16:14.57 | zenzelezz | Bouvi: don't have to call TeamSpeak to do that, just use one of those programs that plug it directly into DirectX |
| 16:15.22 | Kiphere|work | I'm getting a G15 for christmas so I don't care about teamspeak. |
| 16:15.26 | Kiphere|work | I was asking more in a general sense. |
| 16:15.39 | Kiphere|work | controlling a media player, or displaying text from a chat program, etc. |
| 16:15.57 | zenzelezz | pretty sure nothing of that is possible/allowed |
| 16:16.46 | cogwheel | Any sort of arbitrary communication outside WoW's sandbox would allow easy creation of any number of exploits. |
| 16:16.51 | Kiphere|work | ok, another light question. |
| 16:16.51 | Kiphere|work | lets say I have a window that displays text |
| 16:16.52 | Kiphere|work | I think I'm lagging |
| 16:17.18 | Kiphere|work | ok, what I was sayin, a window displays text thats defined in a file in my addons folder. |
| 16:17.38 | Kiphere|work | is there a way to make it update and check that file for changes and display them without manually reloading the whole uI? |
| 16:17.51 | zenzelezz | no |
| 16:18.04 | Inside | o.O; |
| 16:18.14 | Inside | I just realized, I have $1200 in cash in my wallet right now =_= |
| 16:18.21 | Kiphere|work | what about manually reloading just that window? |
| 16:18.53 | zenzelezz | your terminology confuses me |
| 16:19.01 | zenzelezz | a "window" where? |
| 16:19.06 | Inside | Your window belongs to the UI, it is loaded when a UI is loaded. |
| 16:19.07 | Kiphere|work | in WoW. |
| 16:19.15 | Inside | You cannot simply reload one window, you need to load the entire UI |
| 16:19.51 | Inside | So if I you don't mind grinding to a halt for 2 seconds every ~3 minutes when your current song ends up playing so you can spam guild chat with >> Now playing: Nerdy White Guy |
| 16:19.54 | Kiphere|work | ok, but can I make it recheck one display property, such as text without reloading the actual UI in its entirety |
| 16:20.05 | zenzelezz | not from file |
| 16:20.08 | Inside | not from file. |
| 16:20.13 | zenzelezz | you're blocked from the outside, period |
| 16:20.14 | Kiphere|work | what from them? |
| 16:20.21 | Kiphere|work | ok, so only inside events |
| 16:20.23 | Inside | what zenzelezz said. |
| 16:20.30 | Inside | You cannot write/read from file, other than when the UI reloads. |
| 16:20.43 | Kiphere|work | and its impossible to reload a single element. |
| 16:20.50 | Inside | Indeed. |
| 16:20.59 | Kiphere|work | blah, I can see why but that bites :p |
| 16:21.06 | Inside | Because all of the files for the UI/addons are loaded into memory and then parsed. |
| 16:21.14 | Inside | Well otherwise you'd have KEYLOGGER.lua |
| 16:21.29 | Inside | Hell, that one other wow ui site got totaly screwed over :p |
| 16:21.46 | Inside | But they allowed someone to upload a UI with html in the ui name. |
| 16:21.56 | Inside | and I think it made it to their front page and it downloaded a keylogger on people's pcs |
| 16:21.56 | Inside | >_> |
| 16:22.03 | Gnarfoz | no. |
| 16:22.03 | Kiphere|work | well, I was thinking something on the line of a window that displays text, text from a file that updates based on parsed information from another program |
| 16:22.09 | Gnarfoz | just when you clicked the addon link |
| 16:22.51 | Gnarfoz | Kiphere|work: yeah but you can stop thinking about it ^^ it's not possible and definitely not wanted by blizzard |
| 16:22.55 | Inside | Indeed. |
| 16:23.07 | Inside | You can write some sort of a memory reader using winapi... |
| 16:23.12 | Inside | but that'd get you warden'd |
| 16:23.15 | Inside | unless... |
| 16:23.19 | Elkano | another piece from the 'bad idea' categorie: http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5923/lol4th.jpg |
| 16:23.34 | Inside | I wonder, what if you run wow from a virtual pc |
| 16:23.38 | Inside | hmmm |
| 16:23.44 | Gnarfoz | don't think it will work at all |
| 16:23.57 | Cairenn | Inside: which site was that? |
| 16:23.57 | Gnarfoz | do they even provide working hardware 3d accelleration? |
| 16:24.05 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: that was ui.worldofwar.net |
| 16:24.14 | Inside | ui.worldofwar.net |
| 16:24.19 | Inside | Gnarfoz: i don't know.. hmm |
| 16:24.19 | Gnarfoz | curse had something similar, I read |
| 16:24.24 | Inside | lol ie |
| 16:25.03 | Cairenn | Elkano: O.O |
| 16:25.09 | Inside | XD |
| 16:25.10 | Inside | haha |
| 16:25.13 | Elkano | Inside, if I got it correctly, there was an <iframe> embedded into an addons name and that page used some security holes to install the key logger |
| 16:25.19 | Inside | I guess. |
| 16:25.22 | Inside | anyway, afk outside! |
| 16:25.28 | Inside | time to go walk on lake |
| 16:25.30 | Inside | Im jesus (or a shaman?) lol |
| 16:25.32 | Inside | can walk on water. |
| 16:25.42 | Elkano | Cairenn, I hope wowi doesn't support html |
| 16:25.52 | Inside | ~_~ eew.. 11F outside fuck |
| 16:25.53 | Inside | gonna be cold |
| 16:25.54 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:25.59 | Elkano | (I wonder how much html curse supports) |
| 16:26.13 | Cairenn | Elkano: 5 years of serving up mods, no one has ever gotten a virus or keylogger from us |
| 16:26.22 | Inside | yet |
| 16:27.03 | Kiphere|work | if it's entirely impossible without working around a system in place then I don't wanna do it. |
| 16:27.18 | Elkano | Cairenn, I never thought sth else since you check addons before allowing download ^^ |
| 16:27.23 | Inside | what did you want to do, Kiphere|Sleep? |
| 16:27.38 | Elkano | btw what about "open this image with winrar" pics? |
| 16:27.54 | Kiphere|work | well, it was about functionality mroe than anything particular. |
| 16:27.54 | Inside | what about them? |
| 16:28.11 | Inside | cat image.jpg file.zip > image.zip |
| 16:28.13 | Inside | or something |
| 16:28.13 | Kiphere|work | one example I was thinking of was displaying RSS type things in a window inside of WoW. |
| 16:28.29 | Inside | well, you could reload the UI every ~20 mins or so |
| 16:28.41 | Inside | I think you can do console("reloadUI") or something |
| 16:28.44 | Elkano | well you could at least distribute a keylogger (but anyone stupid enough to follow the instruction deserves it imho) |
| 16:28.49 | zenzelezz | there are no "windows" in WoW, only frames |
| 16:28.49 | Kiphere|work | meh, not worth it. I cna alt tab and check an rss feeder too :p |
| 16:28.56 | Inside | indeed |
| 16:29.06 | Kiphere|work | I understnd that zenze, it was a term. |
| 16:29.27 | Inside | someone said that the longer that ap rogram exists, the more likely it is to try to encompass features to do anything |
| 16:29.28 | Inside | ^_^ |
| 16:29.36 | Inside | I guess Wow, through addons, is becoming some people's desktop |
| 16:29.44 | Inside | what, with calendar and other software ^_^ |
| 16:29.58 | zenzelezz | Kiphere|Sleep: but like I said, you using different terms creates confusion |
| 16:30.12 | Kiphere|work | Like calling me Kiphere|Sleep? :P |
| 16:30.20 | zenzelezz | they're both yuo |
| 16:30.21 | zenzelezz | *you |
| 16:30.29 | Kiphere|work | that's debatable. ;) |
| 16:30.35 | zenzelezz | if I'd called you Kirkburn|afk you could complain =) |
| 16:30.52 | Kiphere|work | I can complain anytime I like, I'm a WoW player. |
| 16:31.00 | Kiphere|work | this is a slap in the face, I demand compensation. |
| 16:31.35 | zenzelezz | http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/erdbeerfisch.jpg here's your compensation |
| 16:32.32 | Kiphere|work | gummy fish? |
| 16:33.07 | zenzelezz | no idea what the name is in English |
| 16:33.24 | zenzelezz | it's strawberry-tasting gelly-type candy shaped like a fish |
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| 17:14.04 | TheStig | Does anyone know if it would be possible to create a sort of container window that other windows could be minimized into? Sort of like a windows xp style system tray with mini icons and a slide out system? |
| 17:14.54 | TheStig | and can you communicate using DDE with lua |
| 17:15.42 | nevcairiel | lua cannot communicate with anything out of wow |
| 17:15.52 | TheStig | ok |
| 17:16.21 | TheStig | and what about the mock up system tray? would that be possible? |
| 17:16.25 | Cairenn | here's an example of a mod that kinda does what you are asking about in the first part: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4422-ChatBar.html |
| 17:16.35 | zenzelezz | wtf... none of the quests in Brackenwall give me reputation >:( |
| 17:16.40 | TheStig | sort of like something for fubar to put all those little icons in hehe |
| 17:16.56 | Kirkburn | I need a quick census - who can reach www.wowwiki.com right now - and where are you? NA or EU? |
| 17:17.12 | Cairenn | NA, loaded fine |
| 17:17.23 | axxo | eu, loaded |
| 17:17.36 | Kirkburn | axxo, where in the EU? |
| 17:17.40 | TheStig | Does not load, US |
| 17:17.42 | axxo | .be |
| 17:18.03 | Kirkburn | K, confusing ... |
| 17:18.11 | nevcairiel | works for me too |
| 17:18.21 | Kiphere|work | gah |
| 17:18.23 | Kiphere|work | ~roulette |
| 17:18.33 | purl | ACTION watches kiphere|work pull the trigger: Click! |
| 17:18.33 | Kirkburn | I can't access it (UK), Adys can't (fr), Gryphen can (US), Hobinheim can (US) |
| 17:18.37 | Kiphere|work | damnit. |
| 17:19.00 | TheStig | What I'm attempting to do is come up with a way to "minimize" the Auction House window while I run Scan on Auctioneer so that I can chat freely etc. without worrying about interrupting the scan 70% through |
| 17:19.12 | seebs | I don't think it's possible. |
| 17:19.22 | seebs | I am pretty sure that it's intentional that just about any other window kills the AH. |
| 17:19.33 | seebs | The #1 killer for me is typing "/who" to see who's on. |
| 17:19.43 | axxo | Kirkburn: traceroute > 'does it load' |
| 17:19.58 | TheStig | yeah I just want to protect it to the point where other windows CANT launch |
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| 17:20.08 | TheStig | i don't want to sit there doing something blizz doesn't want me to do if that is their idea |
| 17:20.14 | Malivil-School | o.O |
| 17:20.16 | TheStig | i just want something that blocks it |
| 17:20.30 | TheStig | i had protection before, this mod called Lexan |
| 17:20.32 | Kirkburn | As ever, the tracert broke down at falcon.eicat.ca |
| 17:23.50 | Kirkburn | TheStig, can you do a tracert on wowwiki.com? |
| 17:24.19 | TheStig | sure hold on |
| 17:24.21 | Malivil-School | im doing it |
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| 17:24.54 | Malivil-School | request timed out after 10.254.0.3 |
| 17:25.09 | malreth | j0, Cide? |
| 17:25.23 | Cide | hai, malreth |
| 17:25.42 | Kirkburn | The tracert fails at falcon.eicat.ca for me, has done it previously |
| 17:26.03 | malreth | so, i'm looking at CTMod 2 update 10, in CT_Core_Chat.lua |
| 17:26.26 | malreth | line 131 and... |
| 17:26.31 | malreth | 133 |
| 17:26.47 | malreth | if ( not defaultMessageFunction ) then |
| 17:26.47 | malreth | -- Cache our default message |
| 17:26.47 | malreth | defaultMessageFunction = self.AddMessage; |
| 17:27.10 | TheStig | oh it works now http://vaio.telekawaru.com/~illuminarok/wow/wowwiki.txt |
| 17:27.35 | Malivil-School | Kirk: h213.c29.b96.tor.eicat.ca |
| 17:27.37 | malreth | defaultMessageFunction essentially gets set to ChatFrame1.AddMessage |
| 17:27.50 | Cide | yep |
| 17:28.03 | malreth | and this means that all chat frames will now only call ChatFrame1's AddMessage function |
| 17:28.21 | Cide | yeah |
| 17:29.04 | malreth | so, an addon that, say, hooks just ChatFrame1.AddMessage to do something like... oh, I don't know... filter out addon loading messages now ends up being run for all chat frames... 1-7 |
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| 17:30.43 | Cide | well, that's kind of what the first parameter is for (self) |
| 17:31.39 | malreth | but that's not what happens in practice |
| 17:31.42 | Cide | on the other hand, ChatFrame2.AddMessage == ChatFrame3.AddMessage |
| 17:31.51 | Cide | this is without addons enabled |
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| 17:32.02 | Cide | so they're using the same function anyway |
| 17:33.15 | malreth | so... if ChatFrame2.AddMessage were only to be hooked, that hook would then affect ChatFrame3? |
| 17:33.28 | malreth | well, no... that wouldn't... |
| 17:34.13 | malreth | well, here's the problem... |
| 17:34.31 | malreth | in StopTheSpam, I hook ChatFrame1.AddMessage and ChatFrame2.AddMessage |
| 17:35.10 | malreth | if someone has CTMod loaded, and has chat frame 4 open, my AddMessage hook is called still |
| 17:35.52 | Qshadowp | ~poke purl_ |
| 17:36.07 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl_, pokes purl_ repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:36.07 | Cide | true |
| 17:36.08 | Qshadowp | ~poke purl |
| 17:36.10 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:36.10 | Qshadowp | its broken? :( |
| 17:36.18 | Qshadowp | nah, just lagged :P |
| 17:36.58 | Cide | but on the other hand, it saves a table lookup per combat log message |
| 17:38.12 | Cide | and what happens is practice is just a one-line change, isn't it? :) |
| 17:38.21 | TheStig | ~roulette |
| 17:38.23 | purl | ACTION watches thestig pull the trigger: Click! |
| 17:38.38 | malreth | a one-line change? |
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| 17:39.14 | Cide | if ( self ~= ChatFrame1 and self ~= ChatFrame2 ) then return originalFunction(self, ...); end |
| 17:42.25 | malreth | ah... there's the rub... |
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| 17:42.57 | malreth | hmm... lemme see |
| 17:44.25 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/3858 |
| 17:44.34 | malreth | self.hooks[obj].AddMessage(obj, msg, r, g, b, id) |
| 17:44.59 | malreth | if obj is ChatFrame3-7, self.hooks[obj] returns nil |
| 17:47.26 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:47.55 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 17:48.06 | malreth | I don't know... it just seems that if an addon is hooking the chat frame's AddMessage methods, i've usually seen them make a new hook for each frame |
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| 17:48.46 | ckknight | malreth, yep, that's what you have to do. |
| 17:48.47 | malreth | usually by creating a closure for each chat frame |
| 17:48.55 | Cide | no it's not what you "have" to do |
| 17:49.03 | ckknight | well, it's the easiest way |
| 17:49.07 | ckknight | you could hook the metatable |
| 17:49.14 | ckknight | but that's icky |
| 17:49.17 | Cide | they all use the same original function |
| 17:49.23 | PProvost | 'Morning everyone |
| 17:49.37 | Cairenn | hey PProvost |
| 17:49.50 | Cide | so if everyone passes the self parameter properly to that function, it works fine |
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| 17:50.13 | malreth | except i've got a very real situation where it isn't working |
| 17:51.11 | malreth | i'll have to chew this over more when I get home... |
| 17:51.22 | Cide | malreth: in your case, that could be rewritten as http://wowi.pastey.net/3859 |
| 17:51.40 | Cide | err, I fucked that one up |
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| 17:52.11 | Cide | <malreth> i'll have to chew this over more when I get home... |
| 17:52.14 | Cide | god damn irc |
| 17:52.19 | Cide | http://wowi.pastey.net/3860 |
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| 17:52.52 | Cide | I changed the third parameter of IsMessageSpam from "this" to "obj" though; I imagine that's what you want since you're capturing self anyway |
| 17:53.00 | Cide | change it back otherwise |
| 17:53.18 | malreth | no, i have to use the global 'this' specifically |
| 17:53.34 | malreth | there's a reason why |
| 17:53.35 | Cide | ah, okay. can change it back then |
| 17:53.43 | malreth | but that won't work either |
| 17:54.00 | malreth | since that's not how AceHook functions... |
| 17:54.13 | malreth | self.hook.AddMessage doesn't exist |
| 17:54.28 | Cide | right now it's self.hooks[obj].AddMessage |
| 17:54.58 | Cide | you could, of course, rewrite it to self.hooks[ChatFrame1].AddMessage but that seems counterproductive |
| 17:55.47 | malreth | the problem is, my code should not even get run for any chat frame other than 1 or 2 |
| 17:56.43 | Cide | since you rely on it being called from ChatFrame#:AddMessage |
| 17:57.03 | malreth | not necessarily... |
| 17:58.06 | malreth | i don't quite know how to explain it |
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| 17:58.37 | Cide | I know what you're saying |
| 17:58.37 | malreth | i'll come back to this later today |
| 17:59.04 | Cide | but I don't really want a table lookup with 7 function closures either |
| 17:59.23 | malreth | you shouldn't need a table lookup |
| 17:59.37 | Cide | maybe not |
| 17:59.49 | malreth | the lua closure takes care of it all |
| 18:00.16 | Cide | but my way o doing it s in line with how the game handles the printing |
| 18:00.22 | beerke | Anyone can look into this code and perhaps tell me why ihis scrollframe works for arrays with more then 7 items, but refuse to display for arrays with lower amount of items http://ace.pastey.net/3861 |
| 18:00.39 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/3862 |
| 18:00.54 | Cide | ya, I realized that after I said it |
| 18:01.27 | Cide | but if STS is the only addon installed |
| 18:01.39 | Cide | self.hooks will be filled with entries that ultimately point to the same function |
| 18:01.47 | Cide | which seems like a weird approach to me |
| 18:02.33 | malreth | but i don't think they really are the same function |
| 18:02.40 | Cide | try it for yourself |
| 18:03.03 | malreth | otherwise, an addon that came along and hooked the AddMethod for 1 chat frame would affect all of them |
| 18:03.11 | malreth | regardless of the self parameter |
| 18:03.13 | Cide | no |
| 18:04.11 | Cide | since AddMessage is called through the metatable, it doesn't really exist |
| 18:04.24 | Cide | so you're blocking the call specifically on ChatFrame1 if you set AddMessage there |
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| 18:10.04 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:10.11 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 18:10.17 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 18:10.33 | Bouvi | Heya ck I just switched to Cartographer and I must say excellent work. |
| 18:10.44 | ckknight_ | Bouvi, :-) |
| 18:10.48 | ckknight_ | vote it up on WoWI |
| 18:10.53 | Bouvi | Already did |
| 18:11.00 | ckknight_ | good stuff |
| 18:11.14 | malreth | let's have a look at http://wowi.pastey.net/3864 |
| 18:11.20 | ckknight_ | it's still in development, there will be one big change (on the backend) that most people will quite like |
| 18:11.20 | Bouvi | I do have a quick question. Does it handle Ungoro soil? Had a guildie ask when I was promoting it on our forums. |
| 18:11.45 | ckknight_ | Bouvi, don't know. do you mean for gathering stuff? |
| 18:11.47 | malreth | I think we'd both agree that that little snippit of code would replace all messages printed in ChatFrame1 with 'foo' |
| 18:11.54 | Bouvi | Yes. Like herbs |
| 18:12.01 | malreth | ChatFrame2-7 would be unaffected |
| 18:12.05 | ckknight_ | Bouvi, it could easily be added, but it's not there now |
| 18:12.09 | Cide | yes, malreth |
| 18:12.24 | Cide | in most cases |
| 18:12.28 | Bouvi | OK thanks he was just looking for a gatherer replacement. |
| 18:13.00 | Bouvi | I love the ability to alpha out everything but the most important parts of the map. |
| 18:13.10 | malreth | except in the case where an addon loads later, and hooks ChatFrame2-7's AddMessage function to ChatFrame1's AddMessage function |
| 18:13.12 | kergoth | cart doesnt have treasure type stuff, should add a module to do chests and un'goro soil and those dealies in felwood |
| 18:13.16 | ckknight | woohoo, Cartographer is #2 for Top Rated |
| 18:13.41 | Bouvi | Woot! |
| 18:14.50 | Bouvi | Well now I can say I use everything you have on wowi lol |
| 18:15.25 | ckknight | lol |
| 18:16.16 | Cide | malreth: http://wowi.pastey.net/3865 |
| 18:16.26 | Cide | accomplishes the same thing (well, I added ChatFrame2 as well) |
| 18:18.09 | Cide | with the bonus that an addon that hooks ChatFrame3-7 wouldn't affect it |
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| 18:22.44 | Bouvi | ckknight, I added the ungoro soil request to your wowi portal. Thanks again for the super work. |
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| 18:26.23 | Tierrie|Work | hey did you guys see the reason for the rolling restart last night? |
| 18:26.52 | Bouvi | Nope |
| 18:27.21 | Kirov | Did you find out what it was, or are you trying to find out? |
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| 18:29.44 | Tierrie|Work | i found out I think |
| 18:29.55 | Tierrie|Work | http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/4744465.html |
| 18:30.01 | Tierrie|Work | infinite AP bug |
| 18:30.06 | Tierrie|Work | some guy was 1 shotting mobs in MC |
| 18:31.26 | axxo | no |
| 18:31.30 | axxo | the restart was to fix the mail bug |
| 18:31.40 | nevcairiel | that bug was fixed as well tho |
| 18:31.50 | Bouvi | That was the hotfix this morning there were two |
| 18:31.56 | Tierrie|Work | <-- doesn't know for sure |
| 18:33.01 | Bouvi | I knew the mail one this morning but did not know what the one for last night was. |
| 18:36.31 | alcaras | new alcui submitted for approval :) |
| 18:36.44 | alcaras | featuring new custom aguf layout: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full6118.jpg |
| 18:36.52 | Cairenn | DENIED! IP BANNED! |
| 18:36.58 | alcaras | zomg sorrow |
| 18:37.11 | Tierrie|Work | laughter and merriment |
| 18:37.44 | Bouvi | *ducks* |
| 18:37.51 | alcaras | err revmoing that image |
| 18:37.55 | alcaras | blah for having vent info in gmotd |
| 18:38.02 | alcaras | >.> |
| 18:38.17 | Tierrie|Work | *turkey* |
| 18:38.39 | ZealotOnAStick | c'mon, give us a new image then, I wanna see this layout. |
| 18:40.31 | alcaras | thansk Cairenn |
| 18:40.38 | Cairenn | welcome :) |
| 18:42.23 | Tierrie|Work | http://freshvideo.blogspot.com/2006/12/hidden-message-in-american-clothing.html <-- funny |
| 18:44.39 | Tierrie|Work | i would consider wearing that on my shirt |
| 18:45.02 | Tierrie|Work | but with bigger font and plastered across my chest |
| 18:45.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:48.09 | alcaras | ZealotOnAStick: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full6119.jpg |
| 18:48.33 | alcaras | jpg compression raped that picture sadly :( |
| 18:48.34 | malreth | So, Cide... why doesn't CTMod hook the ChatFrame metatable entry for AddMessage? |
| 18:49.22 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.56 | Cide | more useful in your case though, but I might as well too |
| 18:49.57 | malreth | it seems to make more sense than hooking all of ChatFrame1-7.AddMessage |
| 18:50.00 | Cide | well |
| 18:50.30 | malreth | since you're applying timestamps to all chat frames anyways |
| 18:50.30 | Cide | it probably gets all ScrollingMessageFrames |
| 18:50.39 | Cide | but I suppose I could do some self checking as well |
| 18:52.31 | Kiphere|work | ack |
| 18:52.39 | Kiphere|work | err |
| 18:52.46 | Kiphere|work | s/ack/back/ |
| 18:53.04 | Bouvi | alcasas, Great work on those instructions. Very clear and concise. Great looking UI as well. |
| 18:53.08 | Kirov | Ack! pttttttttttttttt! |
| 18:53.12 | malreth | well, back to work for me... real work... thanks for listening, Cide. :) |
| 18:53.30 | Cide | can look into it further later |
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| 18:54.09 | alcaras | thanks bouvi :) |
| 18:54.16 | Kirov | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_the_Cat |
| 18:54.16 | alcaras | working on more documentation slowly |
| 18:54.17 | Tierrie|Work | alcaras: what mod am i supposed to be looking at? |
| 18:54.24 | alcaras | Tierrie: the unit frame layout |
| 18:54.42 | Tierrie|Work | nifty |
| 18:54.46 | Tierrie|Work | what is that frame on the left though |
| 18:54.54 | Tierrie|Work | is that party frame or targettarget frame |
| 18:55.09 | alcaras | party on left, target in mid, under target of target, bottom is me |
| 18:55.33 | Tierrie|Work | i suppose its rather nifty |
| 18:55.46 | Tierrie|Work | i don't like square designs though, everyone's doing square these days |
| 18:55.59 | alcaras | square? |
| 18:56.06 | Tierrie|Work | yeah boxish designs |
| 18:56.09 | alcaras | ah |
| 18:57.09 | Bouvi | I hope to make this one day if Discord UI Builder ever comes out. http://www.bouvi.com/ui/NewDUBMageUI1.jpg |
| 18:57.18 | Tierrie|Work | http://www.code-poets.org/WoWScrnShot_121306_231505.jpg <-- mine |
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| 18:58.37 | alcaras | pretty bouvi |
| 18:59.09 | Bouvi | I am using this now: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5806.jpg |
| 18:59.09 | Cide | does anyone know the author of GMail? |
| 19:00.16 | malreth | Grennon? |
| 19:00.17 | Cide | I have no idea who it is, but I want to have a talk with whomever it is |
| 19:00.17 | malreth | yeah, he's... uh. He's right here with me. |
| 19:00.17 | malreth | want me to rough 'im up for ya? |
| 19:00.22 | malreth | he owe ya money? |
| 19:00.23 | Cide | something like that |
| 19:00.29 | malreth | he cheat with yer wife? |
| 19:00.36 | Cide | almost that bad |
| 19:00.37 | Tierrie|Work | hah bouvi is a metahud user! |
| 19:00.38 | malreth | i can cut him a little for ya. |
| 19:00.38 | Tierrie|Work | :) |
| 19:00.48 | Cide | honestly though, where can I reach him? |
| 19:01.01 | malreth | dunno... you could try in #wowace, though |
| 19:01.04 | Bouvi | Bouvi was using metahud when it was in Drathal's hands :) |
| 19:01.22 | Tierrie|Work | you make me a sad puppy |
| 19:01.27 | Tierrie|Work | sorrow! |
| 19:01.30 | malreth | seriously, tho... if you need "services" then just let me know |
| 19:01.34 | cogwheel | ~seen grennon |
| 19:01.59 | purl | grennon <n=jeramy@user-0cdv8vd.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 61d 18h 59m 55s ago, saying: 'and i used it to do some of the work serious buff timers was doing with formatting'. |
| 19:01.59 | malreth | my family has ties to the mafia... we "know" people |
| 19:02.00 | Bouvi | When Drathal quit I used it till it died then switched to Metahud. |
| 19:02.25 | Qshadowp | ~seen qshadowp |
| 19:02.39 | purl | qshadowp is currently on #wowi-lounge. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 14s, last said: '~seen qshadowp'. |
| 19:02.39 | Tierrie|Work | whats that red dot next to yoru hearthstone |
| 19:02.49 | Qshadowp | aww :( |
| 19:02.55 | Bouvi | Oh that was when Autobar had some errors and the move thing did not hide |
| 19:03.07 | malreth | Cide, for a price, I can get you his ear. |
| 19:03.35 | malreth | if you can't pay... for a lower sum, you can have a little toe |
| 19:04.33 | Kiphere|work | ~seen purl_ |
| 19:04.41 | purl | purl_ is currently on #casualti (16h 8m 43s) #botpark (16h 8m 43s) #linuxfund (16h 8m 43s) #wowi-lounge (16h 8m 43s) # (16h 8m 43s) #edev (16h 8m 43s) #fossfund (16h 8m 43s) #hosernet (16h 8m 43s) #norganna (16h 8m 43s) #creativeforum (16h 8m 43s) #ud (16h 8m 43s) #dub (16h 8m 43s) #teleconf ... |
| 19:05.29 | malreth | gonna go get some lunch... and by "get some lunch" I really mean "kill a guy". |
| 19:05.31 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 19:05.32 | malreth | be back later... |
| 19:06.03 | Qshadowp | purl, crash |
| 19:06.10 | purl | if you have apps that just can't help but keep shooting themselves in the head, and causing you to lose unsaved data, have a look through /proc/kcore and you might be able to salvage some of the lost data: 'cat /proc/kcore | strings > kcore-file' then 'less kcore-file' works great with netscape that always likes to crash in the middle of typing in forms ... |
| 19:06.10 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 19:06.30 | Qshadowp | o.O |
| 19:06.47 | Bouvi | I am bored at work: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=971054111 |
| 19:07.16 | Bouvi | So I am going to show my home movies lol |
| 19:07.17 | Qshadowp | purl, gief epix. |
| 19:07.24 | Qshadowp | lol :P |
| 19:07.59 | Bouvi | That one was when good bricks go bad. They had to be punished. All are work safe and child friendly lol |
| 19:08.20 | Bouvi | Here is my national TV debut about 10 years ago. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=908857311 |
| 19:08.28 | Qshadowp | didn't load for me for some reason *Trys again* |
| 19:08.47 | Bouvi | Need the latest Flash |
| 19:08.50 | Bouvi | I think |
| 19:09.12 | Qshadowp | loaded this time :P |
| 19:09.46 | Bouvi | This is when I defied gravity for the first time by myself: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=918756450 |
| 19:09.54 | Qshadowp | omg, those people are scart o.O |
| 19:10.39 | Bouvi | lol |
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| 19:11.31 | Bouvi | Pavement.... Who needs pavement: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=918795720 |
| 19:11.51 | Kiphere|work | myspace makes my firewall cry. |
| 19:11.59 | Kiphere|work | youtube or it didnt happen. |
| 19:12.08 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 19:12.11 | Bouvi | I had them on youtube but they went bye bye :( |
| 19:12.59 | Bouvi | One for everyone's firewall. I call it "What?" http://www.bouvi.com/sigs/what.jpg |
| 19:14.01 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 19:14.10 | Bouvi | Here is the dateline video I posted above. http://www.starlightweb.com/movies/dateline.mov |
| 19:14.15 | Bouvi | Maybe you can see it there. |
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| 19:15.07 | Kiphere|work | what the shit, where's my pants. |
| 19:15.30 | Bouvi | Here are some of the flying videos: http://www.masterfritts.com/pilot/pages/videos.html |
| 19:18.46 | Kirov | hmm, doesn't appear so |
| 19:19.12 | Bouvi | On a more WoW related front. Here is a video where I took on the Fel Reaver. I held my own and managed to look at it mean!! http://files.filefront.com/felreaverwmv/;6212620;;/fileinfo.html |
| 19:19.48 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i wanted to try killing it |
| 19:20.17 | Bouvi | Watch the video lol. I am in Teir 1 and 2 gear. lvl 60 at the time the video was shot. Not pretty lol |
| 19:20.25 | nevcairiel | you cant do that alone. |
| 19:20.30 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 19:20.37 | Bouvi | Nope lol |
| 19:20.40 | nevcairiel | its a lvl 70 elite which hits pretty hard |
| 19:20.43 | nevcairiel | good luck with that :D |
| 19:20.48 | Bouvi | But it made a real funny video |
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| 19:22.15 | Bouvi | Kiphere here is a youtube video (yes I have a gut but was fighting diabetes at the time) I have it whipped now and losing the weight again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DITHhK08NiM This is part of a demo we did at the local fair. |
| 19:28.46 | Kiphere|work | have you ever noticed that by injecting unarguable logic into a retarded whine thread on general you can totally disable it and no one will respond? |
| 19:29.12 | Kirov | Kiphere|work - nope |
| 19:29.35 | Kiphere|work | I've pretty much killed like 20 threads in the last couple of days on general :p |
| 19:29.49 | Kirov | Kiphere|work - no one will respond to it, sure ... but usually another whine post appears below the logic post and yours goes blissfully unnoticed. |
| 19:29.54 | Kiphere|work | i had a wonderful argument with some very intelligent folks in dren newby zone yesterday too |
| 19:30.19 | Kiphere|work | I have an issue with the fact that the dren flip their xbows or load them like shotguns. |
| 19:30.27 | Kiphere|work | I know its a gun animation and xbow just shares them but still. |
| 19:30.36 | Kiphere|work | the common retort was 'it's a fantasy world' |
| 19:30.40 | Kiphere|work | which just boggles my mind. |
| 19:31.14 | Kirov | my retort is, "it's a game" |
| 19:31.16 | Kirov | heh |
| 19:31.33 | Kiphere|work | i"m not morally opposed to it or anything, it's just silly. |
| 19:31.42 | Kiphere|work | it 'can' make sense for guns, not xbows. |
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| 19:33.27 | Bouvi | It is a Dranei design. They crashed in a spacecraft so they have the technologies to modify their crossbows to autoload like a shotgun |
| 19:35.52 | Bouvi | Dang did I pull a Kip and kill a chat.... |
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| 19:37.35 | Kiphere|work | freaking facilities planners >< |
| 19:38.31 | Kiphere|work | thats what I settled on Bouvi. |
| 19:38.31 | Kiphere|work | I now call them rotational reloading blueberry blasters. |
| 19:38.31 | Bouvi | great minds and all |
| 19:38.31 | Kiphere|work | or R2B2 |
| 19:38.39 | Tierrie|Work | dude captain kirk could create a gun, i don't see why the draenei can't create phasers |
| 19:38.50 | Tierrie|Work | pew pew rapid fire *ooof 300 damage* |
| 19:38.59 | Tierrie|Work | *phasers you for 491863971233 damage* |
| 19:39.33 | TheStig | what's the frame:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_"); for Raid Leader? |
| 19:39.33 | Kiphere|work | anyway, afk a bit. just found out they're shutting down the AC units in one of my larger buildings which means all my network equipment will turn into smoking piles of useless crap if I don't shut things down. |
| 19:39.54 | TheStig | cause frame:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_RAID"); does not parse what the raid leader says only the peons |
| 19:40.14 | Tierrie|Work | get the raid leader name and match and see if the arg1 is the raid leader? |
| 19:41.04 | TheStig | no when parsing the chat log frame:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_RAID"); ignores the raid leader |
| 19:41.08 | TheStig | so obviously its a seperate event |
| 19:41.20 | TheStig | so is it frame:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_RAIDLEADER"); or what |
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| 19:43.08 | Tierrie|Work | CHAT_MSG_RAID_LEADER |
| 19:43.44 | Tierrie|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Communication |
| 19:44.51 | TheStig | thanks |
| 19:47.48 | Kiphere|work | my co-worker is so considerate. |
| 19:48.45 | Kiphere|work | not only is he eating, extremely loudly I might add, the stinkiest thing I've ever had the displeasure of smelling that was also considered a food product (and keep in mind.. I've been to many locations overseas) but he's 'slurping' something that sounds to have the consistency of semi congealed jello through a straw. |
| 19:49.13 | Kiphere|work | oh goody, apparently it goes well with chips. |
| 19:49.19 | []Shima | hahahahahaha |
| 19:49.31 | []Shima | ask him to "Stafoo" |
| 19:50.08 | Bouvi | Well we have the gas king of america in this office. |
| 19:50.13 | Kiphere|work | this man apparently salivates so much while eating that it's appropriate, nay, required to make loud 'slurp' noises to contain all his food lube before gulping it down and exhaling noisily. |
| 19:50.21 | Tierrie|Work | hahaha |
| 19:50.24 | Tierrie|Work | mouf lub |
| 19:51.02 | Kiphere|work | ahh, thank you Zune for your high volume settings and noise cancelling earbuds. |
| 19:51.33 | Kiphere|work | if only you had gapless playback I could have a solid stream of "legally downloaded" music to listen to instead of The Wonders of Human Ingestion in progress. |
| 19:51.55 | Malivil | Gotta learn some time |
| 19:52.08 | Malivil | My dad's jaw clicks every time he chews |
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| 19:52.19 | chuckg | So does Wayne Cambell's! |
| 19:52.20 | Malivil | and he makes a lot of other noise while eating... |
| 19:52.30 | Kiphere|work | My wife's jaw clicks. |
| 19:52.33 | Kiphere|work | thats a condition. |
| 19:52.33 | Malivil | sometimes i just want to eat somewhere else, its really disgusting |
| 19:52.39 | Kiphere|work | I cna't blame her for that. |
| 19:52.45 | Malivil | my dad chews liek a cow |
| 19:52.48 | Tierrie|Work | one of the shittiest moments in my life was a 6month to 1 year period in my life where my jaw was for some reason dislocated or something |
| 19:52.50 | Malivil | thats the only reason why it clicks |
| 19:52.59 | Kiphere|work | but the constant slurp, grunt, chew, slurp, grunt, gurgle, jesus, it makes my butt pucker. |
| 19:53.01 | Malivil | if he moved his jaw straight up and down it wouldnt happen |
| 19:53.15 | Tierrie|Work | i couldn't even yawn during that period, because there is a large chance of dislocating my jaw |
| 19:53.21 | Malivil | ouch |
| 19:53.30 | Malivil | last week my throat got ripped to shreds by a virus |
| 19:53.33 | Kiphere|work | my wife has a light TMJ issue |
| 19:53.34 | Malivil | after it wetn away |
| 19:53.42 | Malivil | i couldt yawn or it would literally rip open my throat |
| 19:54.03 | Tierrie|Work | it'll get better |
| 19:54.08 | Malivil | I know |
| 19:54.10 | Malivil | its fien now |
| 19:54.13 | Kiphere|work | you should get a losenge for that. |
| 19:54.13 | Malivil | it barely hurts |
| 19:54.23 | Malivil | it only hurts on wicked big yawns now |
| 19:54.25 | Kiphere|work | I'm lucky that i never really get that sick |
| 19:54.28 | Malivil | but last week sucked because i was tired |
| 19:54.32 | Malivil | and i yabnwed like every 5 minutes |
| 19:54.38 | Malivil | it hurt so much my eyes watered a few times |
| 19:54.49 | Kiphere|work | something that will put my wife in bed for a week will maybe make me skip a day of work jsut to rest and put down some fluids |
| 19:55.10 | Kiphere|work | which doesnt make sense to me cause she's in so much better shape than me. |
| 19:55.22 | Malivil | its all internal though |
| 19:55.22 | Kiphere|work | She says i'm too stupid to recognise the illness. ;_; |
| 19:55.26 | Malivil | that sucks for her =( |
| 19:55.37 | Kirov | Kiphere|work - probably because she takes the time to keep herself well. hehe |
| 19:55.45 | Kiphere|work | well, she also is one of thsoe chronic hand washers, never puts weird things in her mouth, etc. |
| 19:55.53 | Kiphere|work | Kirov: she gets sick way more than I do. |
| 19:55.58 | Kirov | My girlfriend was coughing up blood for a while, refused to go to the doctor. |
| 19:56.05 | Bouvi | I am that way Kip due to a bad immune system (Thanks for mono, streap and hepititas I had all at once when I was 18) |
| 19:56.09 | Kiphere|work | I don't walk around worried about germs. |
| 19:56.23 | Kiphere|work | and oddly enough I don't get sick. |
| 19:56.24 | Kirov | Turns out it was a medication she was taking she had a bad reaction to. |
| 19:56.50 | Kiphere|work | she washes her hands all the time, uses all kindsa cleansers and freaks out about putting her hands in her mouth and shit. |
| 19:56.52 | Kirov | Kiphere|work - ah, one of those. |
| 19:57.26 | Kiphere|work | my immune system is strong like bull. |
| 19:57.26 | Malivil | i dont take medicine |
| 19:57.26 | Malivil | not even for headaches |
| 19:57.26 | Kiphere|work | and i attribute it to the fact that it gets A LOT of excersize. |
| 19:57.27 | Kiphere|work | same Malivil |
| 19:57.44 | Kiphere|work | with the rare situation, I get a sinus headache sometimes that litterally makes me cry |
| 19:57.55 | Kiphere|work | I take something to knock my ass out when I get one of those. |
| 19:58.02 | Kiphere|work | its really rare though |
| 19:58.06 | Tierrie|Work | i attribute that to the fact that you're a cyborg |
| 19:58.14 | Malivil | <.< |
| 19:58.15 | Malivil | >.> |
| 19:58.24 | Malivil | last time i took a pill, it was because my mom snuck it into a milk shake |
| 19:58.25 | Bouvi | I get alot of exercise although you would not know it looking at me. |
| 19:58.38 | Kiphere|work | I don't get a lot of physical excersize ;p |
| 19:58.40 | Kiphere|work | I'm tubby |
| 19:58.50 | Kiphere|work | I'm just disgusting on top of that so my immune system has to be on its toes. |
| 19:58.56 | Kirov | Kiphere|work - yeah. That reminds me of a George Carlin skit. He was talking about how he doesn't wash his hands after using the restroom. "You know when I wash my hands? When I get shit on them after wiping. How often is that? Once, maybe twice a month. that's it." |
| 19:59.00 | Bouvi | I get alot of physical exercise and I am tubby. :( |
| 19:59.04 | Kiphere|work | your normal mortal germs are nothing to my heightened white bloodcells |
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| 19:59.18 | Bouvi | http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2741274 |
| 19:59.21 | Kiphere|work | lol kirov yup |
| 19:59.29 | Kiphere|work | oops, paper broke. time to wash. |
| 19:59.33 | Kiphere|work | ohh, I thought I had a tan. |
| 19:59.38 | Kiphere|work | guess not. |
| 19:59.58 | Kirov | I've known a lot of black belts that are tubby. |
| 20:00.13 | Kiphere|work | I'm actualy out of shape but not that big |
| 20:00.15 | Kirov | Especially akido / judo types. |
| 20:00.20 | Kiphere|work | my endurance is my problem. |
| 20:00.25 | Bouvi | Yeah but I am active especially teaching class and demo. |
| 20:01.01 | Bouvi | I can still kick this high: http://www.masterfritts.com/newgraphics/left.jpg |
| 20:01.03 | Kiphere|work | I go to the gym three days a week and do at least half an hour of cardio at those outings, but thats 'new' for me so It's not what got me in the current shape I'm in. |
| 20:01.51 | Kiphere|work | I hate running, I'd rather buy a segway. |
| 20:01.55 | Kiphere|work | ;) |
| 20:02.36 | Kiphere|work | I'm kicking the gym schedule up in january to 4 days a week with 20minutes cardio, 20minutes weights, then 20 more minutes of cardio |
| 20:02.48 | Kiphere|work | every other day some sort of sport like raquettball or basketball |
| 20:03.10 | Kiphere|work | hopefully that plus my recent diet change should help, I'm not eating super healthy but I'm eating better. |
| 20:03.35 | Kiphere|work | my buddies all posted pics recently and it scared me cause they're all huge and I don't wanna get like that. |
| 20:07.56 | Bouvi | My wife's family is all huge. |
| 20:12.36 | kergoth | Cide: you should add your copyright statements to your code. in the US its implicit, but its a good habit to develop |
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| 20:12.49 | JoshBork1 | aloha! |
| 20:13.37 | Cide | kergoth: I put in a disclaimer, but it doesn't explictly state copyright |
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| 20:14.54 | Kiphere|work | blah |
| 20:17.34 | Kiphere|work | time to poke me some firewall admins again. |
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| 20:28.49 | Kiphere|work | cause i'm spendin every dime and I'm spendin all my time... to build teh robotz~ |
| 20:28.58 | Kiphere|work | <3 Dr. Steel |
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| 20:43.04 | bnovc | is there a way to go to the lite version of wowi still? |
| 20:43.12 | JoshBork1 | yes |
| 20:43.13 | Kirov | yes |
| 20:43.16 | JoshBork1 | bottom left portion of the page |
| 20:43.17 | bnovc | the search feature on the site doesnt find any results that contain the word i searched for :( |
| 20:43.19 | JoshBork1 | you can shoose |
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| 20:43.49 | bnovc | if you try searching for the word atlas none of the results are atlas |
| 20:43.55 | Kirov | UserCP -> edit options, -> last option on the list |
| 20:44.04 | JoshBork1 | what does that have to do with the light portion of wowi? |
| 20:44.18 | bnovc | i meant the light version that was there when 2.0 came out |
| 20:44.22 | bnovc | that just had a straight list of mods and download |
| 20:44.54 | JoshBork1 | i believe that was temporary |
| 20:45.13 | bnovc | is the search feature broken then or what? |
| 20:45.23 | JoshBork1 | are you sure atlas is on wowi? |
| 20:45.33 | Kirov | I don't think it is. |
| 20:45.42 | bnovc | JoshBork1: no, i'm not sure |
| 20:45.44 | JoshBork1 | i don't think it is either |
| 20:45.50 | bnovc | i assumed it was |
| 20:45.54 | bnovc | since its so popular |
| 20:45.55 | JoshBork1 | then it would appear that the search feature is working? |
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| 20:46.00 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3896-Atlas.html |
| 20:46.01 | Bouvi | Click on search and then click on advanced search and you can search by filename for exact name |
| 20:46.13 | bnovc | k, thanks |
| 20:46.19 | Kirov | curious, so it is |
| 20:46.19 | JoshBork1 | interesting |
| 20:46.21 | zenzelezz | so yes, it is on WoWI |
| 20:46.23 | Malivil | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3896-Atlas.html |
| 20:46.23 | Bouvi | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3896-Atlas.html |
| 20:46.23 | Kirov | I just go here http://www.atlasmod.com/ |
| 20:46.29 | zenzelezz | slowbies |
| 20:46.31 | Malivil | i win by like 1/2 second |
| 20:46.32 | Malivil | lol |
| 20:46.39 | zenzelezz | no Malivil, I was first |
| 20:46.40 | Bouvi | Zenze beat us both |
| 20:46.46 | Malivil | i dont count you |
| 20:46.49 | Malivil | you win overall |
| 20:46.58 | Malivil | but between Bouvi and me, i win |
| 20:47.02 | Malivil | =P |
| 20:47.09 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.12 | Bouvi | In spirit only if this was golf I would have won |
| 20:47.22 | Malivil | whys that? |
| 20:47.43 | Bouvi | ummmmm because |
| 20:47.49 | Kirov | Malivil - mulligan |
| 20:48.41 | Malivil | ... |
| 20:49.51 | Kirov | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulligan |
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| 20:54.19 | Malivil | i know what a mulligan is |
| 20:54.49 | bnovc | anyone know what mod makes the loot window come up by your cursor? it used to it for me pre-2.0 but i thought it was default WoW behavior then |
| 20:55.12 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.16 | TS|Skrom | I think |
| 20:55.43 | Kirov | That's probably the first one to do it, yeah. |
| 20:55.53 | Kirov | There's a hand full of copy cat mods since then |
| 20:56.07 | bnovc | k, thanks |
| 20:56.08 | TS|Skrom | Shift + right click works too :P |
| 20:56.39 | Malivil | lol |
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| 20:56.52 | bnovc | anyone else use flightfu and notice that the timers are often wrong and when you hit your map it resets? |
| 20:56.53 | Tierrie|Work | death to kirkburn! |
| 20:56.57 | Tierrie|Work | wb kirkburn |
| 20:57.09 | Kirkburn | Stupid bloody wiki! |
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| 20:57.30 | Kiphere|work | hahahahaha |
| 20:57.30 | Kiphere|work | no |
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| 20:57.45 | Kirkburn | Sorry, I've been having to restart my router again and again so that wowwiki will let me in |
| 20:57.46 | malreth | pa-pa-pa-PAC-POWER!!!! |
| 20:58.00 | Kirkburn | For some odd reason I require a new IP every so often for it to allow me on :/ |
| 20:58.30 | zenzelezz | they keep banning you |
| 20:58.48 | Kirkburn | Seems so |
| 20:58.55 | Kirkburn | Well, I must be banning me |
| 20:59.02 | Kirkburn | There's no-one else to do it! |
| 20:59.17 | zenzelezz | it's probably a cron job |
| 20:59.59 | malreth | when scripts attack |
| 21:00.10 | Tierrie|Work | why Kirk |
| 21:00.11 | TS|Skrom | "ahhhh martha look out it's another .bat! |
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| 21:00.12 | Tierrie|Work | i'll ban you |
| 21:00.15 | Tierrie|Work | one sec |
| 21:00.17 | Tierrie|Work | oh gno i am just a normal user |
| 21:00.19 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 21:00.38 | Kirkburn | Uh yeah, I'm a wowwiki admin =) |
| 21:00.46 | Cide | ban yourself |
| 21:00.50 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:00.53 | Tierrie|Work | i know what would be so awesome |
| 21:00.57 | TS|Skrom | 10[14:57] Kirkburn: Well, I must be banning me |
| 21:00.57 | TS|Skrom | [14:57] Kirkburn: There's no-one else to do it!01 |
| 21:00.57 | Cide | I bet you don't have the guts to do it! |
| 21:01.04 | TS|Skrom | thnk we went over this part already |
| 21:01.07 | TS|Skrom | :-) |
| 21:01.31 | Kirkburn | I like how I've totally destoyed today's recent changes list |
| 21:01.39 | Tierrie|Work | basn |
| 21:01.43 | Tierrie|Work | oh lunchtime bbl |
| 21:01.46 | Kirkburn | Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. Delete. |
| 21:02.34 | TS|Skrom | One of those days eh kirk? |
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| 21:05.01 | zenzelezz | it really annoys me that I didn't get reputation for the Brackenwall Village quests (or at least not from most) >.< |
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| 21:18.52 | Bouvi | I am soooo bored. Only 40 more mins and I can leave work |
| 21:19.29 | Kiphere|work | I've gotta finish a diagram before I can leave. I might just 'miss my deadline' cause I don't feel like fuckin with it today. |
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| 21:20.07 | Kiphere|work | not like i'm gonna be any less bored at home though. with TBC not ocming out till january my holiday vacation got a lot less interesting. |
| 21:20.09 | Bouvi | I have no work |
| 21:20.42 | Kiphere|work | I was really looking forward to playin WoW next week when I'm off but now since I'm rerolling it all seems like a waste of time. |
| 21:21.27 | amro | WoW is more work than play, eh :P? |
| 21:21.30 | Bouvi | I am trying to get my Mage to 60 |
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| 21:23.13 | Lone | Guys who wrote Cartographer, you around? |
| 21:23.28 | malreth | ~seen ckknight |
| 21:23.52 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 55m 56s ago, saying: 'not herb-type.'. |
| 21:24.17 | malreth | doesn't seem he's here, Lone |
| 21:24.40 | LoneVandal | Darn. |
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| 21:26.54 | Malivil | [15:54] * ckknight has quit IRC (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
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| 21:33.28 | LoneVandal | Anyone know how to import place markers for herbs / minerals into Cartographer? |
| 21:34.20 | malreth | check the Cartographer thread on wowace.com's forums |
| 21:34.27 | LoneVandal | Thanks |
| 21:34.29 | Bouvi | From gatherer? |
| 21:34.36 | LoneVandal | From anything I guess |
| 21:34.40 | malreth | there are scripts that will import from a gatherer SV file |
| 21:34.54 | LoneVandal | I've been playing this game for 2 years and I don't want to re-mark every damn node |
| 21:35.06 | Bouvi | Were you using gatherer? |
| 21:35.12 | LoneVandal | For ages |
| 21:35.30 | Bouvi | http://www.wowace.com/files/Cartographer_Import/ |
| 21:35.38 | LoneVandal | I have the file already |
| 21:35.42 | LoneVandal | It was part of an addon pack |
| 21:35.46 | LoneVandal | I just didn't know how to use it |
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| 21:37.14 | Bouvi | No idea never tried it |
| 21:37.34 | Bouvi | I would check the wowace forums like Malreth suggested. He is a smart cookie. |
| 21:41.20 | LoneVandal | I'm looking |
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| 21:51.36 | Kiphere|work | I need a good minimalist unit bar mod and a good buff mod that shows time remaining/names |
| 21:52.06 | foxlit | default ui is small and shows time remaining, albeit not names :) |
| 21:52.13 | foxlit | Elk's is decent :) |
| 21:52.22 | seebs | I'm using one of the perl variants, and I'm using Telo's bufftimers to get time remaining. I don't know about buff names. |
| 21:52.40 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 21:52.46 | foxlit | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3320/elkanos-buffbar/ |
| 21:52.46 | Bouvi | I like Elkbuffbars they tock |
| 21:53.02 | Bouvi | rock and crud did not mean to say that in front of Elk |
| 21:53.36 | Cide | Kiphere|work: can check out CT_BuffMod too |
| 21:54.03 | Elkano | na, it's only a ceap ripoff ;) |
| 21:54.12 | Cide | uh huh :) |
| 21:54.41 | Bouvi | I am using Elk in this pic http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5806.jpg |
| 21:54.47 | LoneVandal | Can someone just tell me how to use Cart Import? I tried searching the forums and it didn't show me the posts saying how to use it |
| 21:55.08 | LoneVandal | I have a .tsv file I want to use |
| 21:55.14 | LoneVandal | I have Cart Import |
| 21:55.48 | Bouvi | Sorry I have not used it |
| 21:56.27 | LoneVandal | imo it would be really nice if the creator put a small readme file in the install directory saying what to do :| |
| 21:56.45 | malreth | LoneVandal: there actually is a post that documents step by step how to convert a .tsv file... but it's not easy... and you'll need to have Gatherer installed... and you'll likely get a file that isn't accurate because some of those .tsv files on the web aren't correct |
| 21:57.02 | Cide | http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2605/post20uifc6.jpg is a good example of CT_BuffMod (top right corner) |
| 21:57.20 | malreth | LoneVandal: did you get that file from like that gatherer.reet.whatever site? |
| 21:57.20 | LoneVandal | malreth, I've used this one before and it is pretty good |
| 21:57.24 | LoneVandal | Yeah |
| 21:57.53 | malreth | yeah... people have reported issues with the silithus map nodes |
| 21:58.13 | LoneVandal | Probably because it is an old file |
| 21:58.13 | malreth | but... you sound like you really wanna use it... |
| 21:58.14 | malreth | one sec... |
| 21:58.22 | LoneVandal | I found the post I think |
| 21:58.31 | LoneVandal | Aethra |
| 21:58.44 | TS|Skrom | what is up with cycircled... I'd never heard of it before 2.0 now every screenshot I see has it :P |
| 21:58.58 | Kirkburn | This appeals to my british nature: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/stanley+gibbons/ |
| 21:59.03 | malreth | LoneVandal: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2951.msg67687#msg67687 |
| 21:59.49 | malreth | TS|Skrom: people like eye-candy |
| 21:59.52 | LoneVandal | Ah yeah |
| 22:00.02 | LoneVandal | That is the one I found someone else quoting |
| 22:00.05 | LoneVandal | Thanks |
| 22:00.09 | malreth | np |
| 22:00.10 | LoneVandal | And yes I am pretty set on doing this |
| 22:00.15 | LoneVandal | I want my god damn epic mount |
| 22:00.21 | TS|Skrom | don't get me wrong, i USE cycircled, I like it's look but it's like it just came out of nowhere lol |
| 22:00.27 | LoneVandal | Showing mining + herbs on the minimap would be a quick route to that |
| 22:02.48 | LoneVandal | Crap |
| 22:03.01 | LoneVandal | Step 10's link doesn't work |
| 22:03.50 | cladhaire | Just released the new Clique, which should fix the out-of-combat priority issues. |
| 22:04.32 | Cide | clique clique! |
| 22:04.40 | Cide | *boom* |
| 22:04.46 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:04.58 | Qshadowp | purl, emulate purl |
| 22:05.10 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 22:05.10 | Qshadowp | ~poke purl |
| 22:05.22 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:05.23 | Qshadowp | :D |
| 22:05.23 | Kiphere|work | cyrciled? |
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| 22:05.59 | Kiphere|work | that sounds interesting, what is it? :P |
| 22:06.04 | LoneVandal | Ok really now, none of those steps say anything about using Cartographer Impor |
| 22:06.05 | LoneVandal | t |
| 22:06.17 | Kiphere|work | I like circles in general. |
| 22:06.21 | Kirkburn | Kiphere|work, makes stuff circly :P |
| 22:06.26 | Kiphere|work | linky! |
| 22:06.30 | Kiphere|work | >_> |
| 22:06.31 | TS|Skrom | it kinda works with your bar mods to make the buttons round |
| 22:06.39 | Kiphere|work | does it do the ghetto 'fat border' method? |
| 22:06.51 | malreth | LoneVandal: I don't know about that Cartographer_Import addon thing... the posts that I've read make mention to a perl script that does the conversion outside of WoW |
| 22:07.02 | malreth | s/read/remember/ |
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| 22:07.39 | Kiphere|work | ~poke malreth |
| 22:07.41 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind malreth, pokes malreth repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:07.41 | malreth | What is thy bidding, Master? |
| 22:07.41 | LoneVandal | That is neat :| A mod exists with no documentation or instruction on how to use it |
| 22:08.08 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 22:08.12 | Kiphere|work | >_> |
| 22:09.06 | haste | hehe |
| 22:09.15 | haste | so evil |
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| 22:09.27 | Kiphere|work | heh |
| 22:09.27 | Kiphere|work | pwned |
| 22:09.30 | malreth | whoa! |
| 22:09.40 | Kiphere|work | you got ghosted. |
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| 22:09.55 | Esamynn_ | malreth: lol |
| 22:10.10 | malreth | wait... who are you? |
| 22:10.10 | malreth_ | hey? |
| 22:10.13 | Kiphere|work | wtf |
| 22:10.23 | malreth_ | who stole my nick? |
| 22:10.33 | malreth | uh oh... |
| 22:10.34 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 22:10.36 | Kiphere|work | if it's registered ghost em :P |
| 22:10.51 | malreth | hmm... |
| 22:11.20 | LoneVandal | I can't find any documentation about Cartographer Import at all :D I'll go into WoW and see if there is a hidden menu somewhere |
| 22:11.57 | Kiphere|work | I like bongos but i need something more flexbary |
| 22:12.07 | Kiphere|work | I don't like my buttons coming pregrouped. |
| 22:12.41 | Industrial | use lu |
| 22:12.42 | Industrial | a |
| 22:12.50 | Kiphere|work | lu |
| 22:12.51 | Kiphere|work | a |
| 22:12.51 | Industrial | :> |
| 22:12.52 | Kiphere|work | ? |
| 22:12.55 | Industrial | yeah |
| 22:12.55 | Industrial | lue |
| 22:13.02 | Kiphere|work | lue? |
| 22:13.05 | Industrial | .. i cant even misspell the same thing wcide |
| 22:13.09 | malreth | LOL! |
| 22:13.16 | Cide | you called? |
| 22:13.22 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:13.25 | Industrial | omg >_> |
| 22:13.30 | Kiphere|work | s/..i cant even misspell the same thing wcide/I suck at typing/ |
| 22:13.49 | Kiphere|work | I don't even know what you were trying to say |
| 22:13.50 | malreth | we've secretly replaced Industrial's keyboard with Folger's Crystals... Let's see if anyone notices... |
| 22:14.56 | LoneVandal | Does anyone know the slash commands to operate Cartographer? |
| 22:15.15 | malreth | type /cartographer |
| 22:15.15 | malreth | it'll spit out help |
| 22:15.22 | LoneVandal | Tried that |
| 22:15.23 | LoneVandal | It isn't |
| 22:15.30 | malreth | oh... |
| 22:15.39 | Tierrie|Work | maybe its not loaded |
| 22:15.39 | malreth | uh... gottagobye! |
| 22:15.58 | LoneVandal | Cartographer is loaded, I'm looking at my world map with all of it's alterations in place |
| 22:16.03 | Kiphere|work | have you tried /downloadamodwithbetterdocumentation ? |
| 22:16.18 | LoneVandal | I don't have a choice |
| 22:16.26 | LoneVandal | Gatherer disabled Gatherbook support |
| 22:16.37 | Kiphere|work | what are you tryin to do? |
| 22:16.48 | Kiphere|work | I had getherer but never used gatehrbook so I dunno what that does |
| 22:16.48 | LoneVandal | Import locations of herbs / minerals |
| 22:17.01 | LoneVandal | Gatherbook let you import / export locations of things |
| 22:17.12 | Kiphere|work | which explains why I never used it. |
| 22:17.23 | LoneVandal | I've been playing this for 2 years and really don't feel like remarking all my maps on a new computer |
| 22:18.25 | Kiphere|work | The best thing I could say is to open the files and look for slash commands in them |
| 22:18.39 | Kiphere|work | if it has slash commands, they're listed in the lua somewhere |
| 22:18.50 | LoneVandal | Ah |
| 22:19.05 | Kiphere|work | I'm about to head home, if you're still ni here and havn't figured it out poke me when I say something in the channel and I'll DL it and poke around for you. |
| 22:21.24 | cladhaire | I'm gonna go nap for a bit, then TRY to push out a praid release tonight. |
| 22:21.25 | cladhaire | well |
| 22:21.26 | cladhaire | a beta |
| 22:21.31 | cladhaire | to the kool kids klub |
| 22:21.33 | LoneVandal | When it says "local gatherHerbsToCartographer" is that a command? |
| 22:21.48 | Kiphere|work | Lone, no. |
| 22:21.56 | LoneVandal | Damn |
| 22:22.03 | Kiphere|work | look for SLASH_Blablahblah |
| 22:22.24 | Kiphere|work | headin out, good luck ;) like I said I'll help when I get home and settled if you havn't figured it out. |
| 22:22.29 | Kiphere|work | Bai guys, talk to ya in a bit. |
| 22:22.29 | LoneVandal | Later |
| 22:25.45 | Tierrie|Work | now i want to change my character name ;( |
| 22:25.54 | Tierrie|Work | bummer |
| 22:26.17 | Tierrie|Work | i suppose i have to wait until they open up a transfer off my server then transfer back? |
| 22:26.38 | amro_ | 6 month cooldown on transfers |
| 22:26.51 | [Cu]Werik | 1 month |
| 22:26.52 | Qshadowp | 6? |
| 22:26.54 | Qshadowp | i thought it was 3 |
| 22:26.56 | Qshadowp | :| |
| 22:27.02 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 22:27.02 | Tierrie|Work | 1 iirc |
| 22:27.17 | Qshadowp | with RTF is it 1 month for your entire account? |
| 22:27.17 | amro | wasn't it 6 at one point? |
| 22:27.21 | Qshadowp | or one for just that char |
| 22:27.25 | Tierrie|Work | amro: yes it was |
| 22:27.25 | amro | per char |
| 22:27.29 | Qshadowp | woot :P |
| 22:27.33 | [Cu]Werik | They changed it to 1 month |
| 22:27.37 | [Cu]Werik | ages ago:) |
| 22:27.39 | Qshadowp | my friend might be quitting wow, and i got all his gold :P |
| 22:27.48 | Qshadowp | http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1172/16kgpq5.jpg |
| 22:27.50 | Qshadowp | woot? |
| 22:27.51 | Tierrie|Work | they won't let us pay to change names eh? |
| 22:28.15 | Tierrie|Work | how much did he have |
| 22:28.23 | Qshadowp | 20k :P |
| 22:28.37 | Qshadowp | im not spending it yet though, because he has a habit of quitting and then coming back |
| 22:28.54 | [Cu]Werik | then you should spend it fast:) |
| 22:28.57 | Qshadowp | http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1172/16kgpq5.jpg <-- screenshot of me with 16k |
| 22:28.58 | Qshadowp | xD |
| 22:29.26 | foxlit | All the more reason to spend it now :) |
| 22:29.32 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 22:29.38 | Qshadowp | nah i'll wait and see if he wants to come back or not :) |
| 22:29.48 | Qshadowp | gonna speak to him tommorow about it :P |
| 22:30.08 | Qshadowp | if he quits, that cash is coming to dune maul and buying me a flying mount in tbc wee xD |
| 22:30.58 | amro | all my characters across all realms don't have 1k g atm |
| 22:31.09 | amro | combined* |
| 22:31.26 | Qshadowp | same here |
| 22:31.38 | Qshadowp | well, excludeing that one. but that money doesn't really belong to me as of yet :p |
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| 22:48.56 | Industrial | Do carrior birds and wolves only ear meat? |
| 22:48.58 | Industrial | pets |
| 22:49.01 | Industrial | carrion |
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| 22:52.36 | nevcairiel | wolves do, dunno about the birds |
| 22:52.49 | Kiphere|Sleep | lala |
| 22:53.09 | KiphereCE | imback |
| 22:53.10 | KiphereCE | urback? |
| 22:53.14 | KiphereCE | yar |
| 22:53.19 | Qshadowp | rly? |
| 22:53.27 | KiphereCE | osorly |
| 22:53.40 | Qshadowp | hax. |
| 22:54.19 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 22:55.03 | Qshadowp | purl, emulate qshadowp |
| 22:55.04 | purl | ~poke purl |
| 22:55.18 | Qshadowp | :D |
| 22:57.22 | foxlit | What do I have to kill to prevent partyframes from showing? |
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| 22:57.59 | Qshadowp | its in the interface options |
| 22:58.17 | KiphereCE | betatimez. |
| 22:58.19 | KiphereCE | bai |
| 22:58.24 | Qshadowp | bai. |
| 22:58.51 | foxlit | Q: that only hides it in raids? |
| 22:59.21 | Qshadowp | think theres something in there to hide it also |
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| 23:01.03 | Tem | is that like anti-advertising? |
| 23:01.51 | Tem | I'm less likely to use Hydrairc if it's most impressive feature is zomg it uses .net |
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| 23:02.28 | Tem | hmm |
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| 23:02.39 | foxlit | Wasn't that "it looks like Visual Studio.NET"? |
| 23:03.28 | abug | is norganna's site down? |
| 23:05.53 | xgravix | yep |
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| 23:19.58 | Qshadowp | lmao i love stupid people |
| 23:20.14 | Qshadowp | some guy on my server is advertiseing that hes making a guild and they have TS + Vent |
| 23:20.23 | Qshadowp | and i said to him but whats the point of having TS, and Vent |
| 23:20.34 | nevcairiel | being cool. |
| 23:20.36 | Qshadowp | the whole point of having ts or vent is to improve communication, you can't do that if halfs on one and halfs on the other |
| 23:20.37 | Qshadowp | xD |
| 23:21.47 | foxlit | Q: bridge them, no problem :) |
| 23:22.05 | foxlit | Though I doubt anyone does that |
| 23:22.39 | Qshadowp | nope this guy obviously wasn't doing that :P |
| 23:22.58 | Qshadowp | he started acting all sarcastic at me for some reason .-. |
| 23:23.16 | abug | are you a fish? |
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| 23:23.31 | Qshadowp | yes. |
| 23:23.43 | Qshadowp | \o/ |
| 23:23.45 | abug | a glen something fish? |
| 23:24.00 | abug | glencutter? |
| 23:24.15 | Qshadowp | nah |
| 23:24.25 | Qshadowp | glencuttlefish is so much better than me. |
| 23:25.14 | Qshadowp | oh well, afk for a bit. |
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| 23:28.51 | Guillotine | more proof that druids are underpowered. Just beat a 60 epic druid on my 39 rogue. stunlock ftw |
| 23:29.09 | abug | he didn't resist your stuns? |
| 23:29.11 | Guillotine | well, resto/balance at least |
| 23:29.16 | Guillotine | no, why would he? |
| 23:29.31 | Guillotine | afaik, only orcs can resist stuns |
| 23:29.31 | abug | because your level difference increases his chance to resist |
| 23:29.47 | abug | well dodge then? |
| 23:29.58 | Guillotine | dodged alot |
| 23:30.11 | Guillotine | but didn't dodge any stuns but 1 gouge |
| 23:30.43 | Guillotine | and level difference doesn't affect stun effects |
| 23:31.21 | nevcairiel | that druid mustve sucked |
| 23:31.22 | LoneVandal | I don't get it |
| 23:31.25 | LoneVandal | What does Clique do? |
| 23:31.41 | nevcairiel | not even a 60 rogue will kill me like that |
| 23:31.51 | abug | adds a little clique button to your spellbook which enables you to set up click casting on various unit frames |
| 23:31.55 | amro_ | yes, i a couple of moonfires could take care of a 39 rogue |
| 23:32.02 | LoneVandal | Click casting on unit frames? |
| 23:32.12 | LoneVandal | So |
| 23:32.27 | LoneVandal | Context sensitive clicking? |
| 23:32.28 | abug | like if you wanted to left click on a party member to cast healing touch |
| 23:32.44 | LoneVandal | What if I wanted to click an enemy in PvP and fuck their world? |
| 23:32.53 | abug | what class are you? |
| 23:32.57 | LoneVandal | Mage |
| 23:33.18 | LoneVandal | Could I set it to cast Frostbolt when I click an enemy? |
| 23:33.22 | abug | yeah |
| 23:33.25 | LoneVandal | :D |
| 23:33.26 | LoneVandal | I likey |
| 23:33.30 | abug | only the unit frames though |
| 23:33.34 | LoneVandal | w-hat |
| 23:33.40 | abug | i.e. their portrait |
| 23:33.44 | LoneVandal | Damn |
| 23:33.47 | LoneVandal | That isn't nearly as useful |
| 23:34.04 | LoneVandal | Can you think of some other way I could make this good in PvP? |
| 23:34.15 | abug | more easily decurse your allies |
| 23:34.20 | abug | or yourself |
| 23:34.29 | abug | set middle mouse button to remove curse |
| 23:34.29 | nevcairiel | mages decure in pvp? |
| 23:34.43 | abug | heh not really |
| 23:34.43 | LoneVandal | We don't, at least, I don't / have never seen another one do it |
| 23:34.55 | LoneVandal | I've decursed myself a few times |
| 23:34.56 | nevcairiel | you even have to force them to do it in pve |
| 23:35.11 | nevcairiel | most of them, anyway |
| 23:35.12 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 23:35.15 | LoneVandal | We have bad memories of that one MC boss |
| 23:35.22 | LoneVandal | He broke our will |
| 23:35.31 | LoneVandal | Lucifron |
| 23:36.20 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 23:36.30 | nevcairiel | Noth broke most of our mages again |
| 23:36.43 | LoneVandal | Man |
| 23:36.50 | LoneVandal | I downloaded an addon package for the first time in months |
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