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| 00:37.17 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 | In case of flood, proceed uphill. In case of flash flood, proceed uphill quickly. |
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| 00:38.31 | LoneVandal | What is a really good PvP unit frame? |
| 00:38.51 | Qshadowp | i never knew UnitFrames did PvP |
| 00:38.54 | abug | the default ones |
| 00:38.56 | TonyD | discord unit frames is my fave |
| 00:39.05 | TonyD | powerfull, customizable |
| 00:39.15 | Qshadowp | yea duf is nice :p |
| 00:39.22 | foxlit | I wrote mine :P |
| 00:39.24 | TonyD | the 2.0 version works nicely |
| 00:39.34 | foxlit | Completely uncostomizable, but exactly what I wanted |
| 00:40.15 | TonyD | well, it's completely customized then |
| 00:40.44 | Kirkburn | How is a PvP UF different to a PvE one? |
| 00:41.14 | TonyD | dunno, i was generalizing |
| 00:41.18 | [Cu]Werik | Do you have a screenshot foxlit? |
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| 00:42.42 | Kirkburn | I would love to tell gryphen congrats, he's a wowwiki admin .... but he just had to go bugger off didn't he :( |
| 00:42.46 | foxlit | I do, but the good part isn't screenshotable |
| 00:43.02 | Tain | If anyone is interested in the world of high-priced, gourmet chocolate, I found this a really interesting articl |
| 00:44.17 | [Cu]Werik | ah |
| 00:47.03 | foxlit | Parts of healthbars literally fade away as damage is dealt |
| 00:47.36 | foxlit | And it shows 40 tiny debuffs :/ |
| 00:47.39 | Qshadowp | yay, purl is back! |
| 00:47.48 | Qshadowp | purl, im in ur akkount sharding ur purplez. |
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| 00:48.20 | Qshadowp | purl doesn't care? :P |
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| 00:49.09 | [Cu]Werik | yay, fading bars annoy me;P |
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| 00:50.36 | foxlit | Pwetty, though |
| 00:50.58 | foxlit | Plus stuff like builtin mobhealth and % displays is nice. |
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| 00:51.18 | [Cu]Werik | It is pretty, but it's not accurate:P |
| 00:51.36 | Qshadowp | i still think the bottom right hand corner of my bag is pretty. |
| 00:51.37 | Qshadowp | http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1172/16kgpq5.jpg |
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| 00:51.51 | [Cu]Werik | But this is my issue, so I learned to live with it:) |
| 00:51.54 | foxlit | Woah, got stuck with "You are not in control of your actions" |
| 00:52.01 | LoneVandal | What site hosts the newest version of Discord Unitframes |
| 00:52.03 | LoneVandal | ? |
| 00:52.03 | cladhaire | I'm so sick of download-from-everyone-else-and-host mod sites. |
| 00:52.05 | cladhaire | they really bother me. |
| 00:52.15 | Qshadowp | LoneVandal www.discordmods.net i think |
| 00:52.20 | Qshadowp | or might be .com can't remember :P |
| 00:52.38 | LoneVandal | Also Norganna's site is down, can someone DCC me the alpha of Auctioneer? |
| 00:52.39 | [Cu]Werik | What's up again cladhaire?:) |
| 00:53.33 | cladhaire | [Cu]werik: Just another mod site "offended" when I ask them to remove my addons, and question why they think its legal to just take whatever they want from someone else's website, slap some gold ads on it and call it a "public service" |
| 00:53.57 | [Cu]Werik | :)) |
| 00:54.37 | [Cu]Werik | Well, it is public service, just a small one |
| 00:54.42 | LoneVandal | cladhaire that reminds me of eBaum's World |
| 00:55.00 | LoneVandal | Eric Bauman is a faggot |
| 00:55.43 | Qshadowp | lol, annoying people |
| 00:55.55 | Kiphere|WoWz | TIME TO DECORATE TREE NOW MAKE TREEBLING |
| 00:56.04 | Qshadowp | if i found a good mod that wasn't somewhere i'd probably repost it though, but with full credits to the author (and links to there website) :P |
| 00:56.15 | Qshadowp | woot, bling trees. |
| 00:56.31 | foxlit | Did curse's download counter sync break again? |
| 00:56.36 | Industrial | Pimp My Tree |
| 00:56.43 | [Cu]Werik | Don't know about it |
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| 00:56.48 | Qshadowp | xD |
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| 00:57.17 | [Cu]Werik | What do you mean, 'break'? |
| 00:57.31 | foxlit | Got a file that's been uploaded ~30 hours ago, still showing 0 downloads |
| 00:57.45 | [Cu]Werik | nvm, we are working on it:P |
| 00:57.46 | Kirov | fixlit - same |
| 00:58.16 | Kirov | [Cu]Werik - btw, I have a gold seller spam in the comments of one of my addons, what should I do about that? |
| 00:58.18 | Kirkburn | Downloads, that all you ever care about ;) |
| 00:58.22 | Kirov | (the X) doesn't work) |
| 00:58.26 | [Cu]Werik | tell me |
| 00:58.45 | Kirkburn | No wait, sorry, I was talking about myself there :/ |
| 00:58.57 | [Cu]Werik | the name of the addon:P |
| 00:59.27 | Kirov | ooo, it's gone already |
| 00:59.28 | Qshadowp | how do you add stuff to purl? :P |
| 00:59.36 | foxlit | Tickets > downloads, really :) |
| 00:59.41 | Qshadowp | purl, im in your account sharding your purples |
| 00:59.46 | Qshadowp | :p |
| 00:59.46 | foxlit | ./msg Purl Help |
| 00:59.50 | Kirov | [Cu]Werik - I'm guessing if you ban a user it deletes all their posts? |
| 01:00.01 | [Cu]Werik | I didnt touch anything |
| 01:00.30 | [Cu]Werik | I don't really know, I didnt ban anyone yet |
| 01:00.45 | LoneVandal | I don't get it |
| 01:00.59 | LoneVandal | How do you download addons off WoWAce.com? |
| 01:01.01 | Tierrie|Work | i got some gold seller spam too |
| 01:01.04 | Tierrie|Work | i deleted the comment though |
| 01:01.12 | LoneVandal | I'm looking at the wiki for AG Unitframes |
| 01:01.12 | [Cu]Werik | do you remember for the name? |
| 01:01.22 | LoneVandal | But I don't see a "download this addon" link |
| 01:01.25 | Tierrie|Work | nope :( |
| 01:01.31 | [Cu]Werik | argh |
| 01:01.53 | Kirov | LoneVandal - there's a beta files on the left |
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| 01:01.54 | LoneVandal | That is it? There is only a beta? |
| 01:01.57 | YammYgirlcoding | night everybody! |
| 01:02.04 | Tierrie|Work | i kind of thought the delete feature was a "moderate it yourself bitches!" feature :P |
| 01:02.26 | [Cu]Werik | yea:P |
| 01:02.39 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. How do I fix the shadow-only-char bug? there is no more WDB folder to delete. what is it then? |
| 01:03.09 | Kirov | [Cu]Werik - weird, the post is gone. i guess the "X" did work. |
| 01:03.21 | [Cu]Werik | It should |
| 01:03.33 | Kirov | LoneVandal - "beta" refers to the addon working on "The Burning Crusade beta", or WoW 2.0 |
| 01:03.51 | Kirov | [Cu]Werik - it gave me a 404 error when I used it this morning and the post didn't disappear |
| 01:04.01 | Tierrie|Work | Kirov: I've used it a few times it works |
| 01:04.01 | [Cu]Werik | we just fixed it today |
| 01:04.08 | Kirov | ah, well, there we go |
| 01:04.17 | cladhaire | Qshadowp: And if you did that with one of my mods, and you were making money off it, I would request that you remove it. |
| 01:04.36 | cladhaire | Qshadowp: Having "another" place to update my mods, where people can get an out-of-date version is a DISSERVICe to everyone.. |
| 01:04.43 | cladhaire | if i wanted my mods everywhere, they'd be everywhere. |
| 01:04.44 | Qshadowp | lol ok :P |
| 01:04.49 | YammYgirlcoding | hi |
| 01:04.58 | Tierrie|Work | punch him! |
| 01:05.02 | Tierrie|Work | hi |
| 01:05.11 | YammYgirlcoding | hello darling =) |
| 01:05.16 | Tierrie|Work | hey sexy |
| 01:05.18 | Kirov | cladhaire - I thought wowinterface _was_ everywhere |
| 01:05.21 | Kirov | ;) |
| 01:05.21 | Tierrie|Work | ready for tonight? |
| 01:05.23 | Kirkburn | \o/ |
| 01:05.40 | YammYgirlcoding | how do I fix the char-shadow-only bug ? I forgot what is it. |
| 01:05.54 | Tierrie|Work | what char shadow only bug |
| 01:06.01 | Tierrie|Work | the one where don't log in properly? |
| 01:06.02 | YammYgirlcoding | we |
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| 01:06.10 | YammYgirlcoding | the one when we log, and there is only a shadow |
| 01:06.11 | Qshadowp | omg curse has a profiling addon? |
| 01:06.15 | Qshadowp | yay :o |
| 01:06.16 | Tierrie|Work | turn off your addons and try logging in |
| 01:06.31 | Tierrie|Work | then delete your WTF and WDB if that doesn't work |
| 01:06.50 | YammYgirlcoding | before it was solved deleting WDB folder. now where cache has gone to? |
| 01:06.58 | Kirov | LoneVandal - btw, addons you download from http://www.wowace.com/files/ are downloading them directly from the SVN, ie: These are versions the authors may be working on right now. |
| 01:07.02 | YammYgirlcoding | there is no more WDB folder |
| 01:07.14 | Kirkburn | Bleeding edge stuff, is /files |
| 01:07.16 | Tierrie|Work | YammYgirlcoding: turn off your mods and log in |
| 01:07.27 | YammYgirlcoding | that is not a kind of solution =) |
| 01:07.28 | cladhaire | your mom is bleeding edge |
| 01:07.32 | Kirov | LoneVandal - Usually they're just as stable as normal, but sometimes bugs might slip through. If you want to be a little more careful, try finding them on wowinterface.com |
| 01:07.43 | foxlit | Then turn them on one at a time until you find what's causing it |
| 01:07.45 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 01:07.49 | Tierrie|Work | YammYgirlcoding: what foxlit said |
| 01:08.18 | cladhaire | i hate you in the face |
| 01:08.25 | Kirkburn | Aaaah, not the face! |
| 01:08.30 | cladhaire | *nod*. |
| 01:08.31 | Kirov | I hate loosing my cache, but it leads to those great "omg, I have 3 bucks in my pocket!" moments. </cache joke> |
| 01:08.37 | cladhaire | in.. the face. |
| 01:08.41 | Tain | Not in the face! Not in the face! |
| 01:09.01 | Kirov | cladhaire - where's pr2.0! |
| 01:09.06 | cladhaire | on the svn zomg |
| 01:09.08 | Qshadowp | im scared of cladhaire :( |
| 01:09.10 | Tierrie|Work | i find that deleting WDB and the cache folder is a dumb solution, i usually turn off mods and turn them on one at a time and that works for me |
| 01:09.10 | Kirkburn | Bam! Right in the kisser! |
| 01:09.11 | foxlit | Hm, interesting. |
| 01:09.13 | Tain | Spoon! |
| 01:09.17 | Qshadowp | purl, save me! |
| 01:09.19 | purl | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves me! from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 01:09.21 | foxlit | Tracking persists when you shift out and into cat |
| 01:09.26 | Qshadowp | woot! |
| 01:09.30 | Kirkburn | purl, you're so self obsessed |
| 01:09.32 | Qshadowp | lol |
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| 01:10.21 | Kirkburn | Kirov, um ... I didn't get it |
| 01:10.37 | Kirkburn | oh no wait |
| 01:10.41 | Kirkburn | *groan* |
| 01:11.35 | Kirkburn | with a bat. |
| 01:11.36 | Kirov | :( |
| 01:11.51 | Kirkburn | Ow, the bat bit me :/ |
| 01:11.54 | Kirov | Ooo! Look how thin I am! |
| 01:12.06 | Kirkburn | Muahaha, the bat drained all your blood away |
| 01:12.20 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:12.25 | Kirov | How'd it do that? I _bit_ you |
| 01:12.28 | Kirov | er, it |
| 01:12.28 | Qshadowp | purl, save Qshadowp |
| 01:12.30 | purl | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves Qshadowp from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 01:12.36 | Kirkburn | You bit the bat!? |
| 01:12.36 | Qshadowp | :D |
| 01:12.45 | Kirkburn | You bastard! |
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| 01:13.10 | Kirov | I think it had rabies |
| 01:13.36 | Kirkburn | Eww, you're foaming all over the place |
| 01:13.38 | Tain | purl has Seasonal Affective Disorder |
| 01:13.50 | Kirkburn | Tain, you lose your hair in autumn? |
| 01:14.09 | Kirkburn | Aah, wintry dandruff |
| 01:14.45 | Kirkburn | You must be pretty fruity in summer! |
| 01:15.17 | Kirkburn | (Um, replace the word Tain by purl, yes) |
| 01:15.34 | Kirkburn | No, you're dead. |
| 01:15.54 | Kirkburn | Better :) |
| 01:16.25 | Kirkburn | So anyway, goodnight all! |
| 01:16.48 | Kirov | night |
| 01:17.01 | Tierrie|Work | are you ItemRack's programmer? |
| 01:17.09 | Kirov | hell no |
| 01:17.11 | Kirov | That's Gello |
| 01:17.12 | Tierrie|Work | well then |
| 01:17.19 | Kirov | hence the confusion |
| 01:17.29 | Tierrie|Work | does he still work on it |
| 01:17.46 | Kirov | Sure, he doesn't work on it constantly! |
| 01:18.00 | Kirov | ... |
| 01:18.44 | Kirov | I think he's more or less done with the addon "scene", I think he's moving to be more of a Telo - type, though he's been showing up on the forums a lot recently. |
| 01:19.00 | Kirov | ie: Continue to update his major mods, but not add anything to them feature wise |
| 01:19.01 | cladhaire | I love "guarding" the flag in AV while i'm modding =) |
| 01:19.05 | Tierrie|Work | whats a Telo type? Godhood that doesn't program and stares down balefully from the heavens? |
| 01:19.18 | Kirov | Tierrie|Work - heard of LootLink? |
| 01:19.25 | Tierrie|Work | yes |
| 01:19.28 | Kirov | Tierrie|Work - That's Telo |
| 01:19.34 | Tierrie|Work | no that's lootlink |
| 01:19.44 | Tierrie|Work | what's a "Telo type" |
| 01:20.05 | Tain | I think Telo type is integar |
| 01:20.13 | Kirov | He shows up the day of a patch, every patch, to post updated-for-the-patch only versions of his addons, then disappears again. |
| 01:20.24 | Tierrie|Work | so whats the integer? |
| 01:20.25 | Tuller | so he's a ninja modder |
| 01:20.29 | Tain | He knows when you are sleeping |
| 01:20.30 | Kirov | 42? |
| 01:20.32 | Tain | He knows when you're awake |
| 01:20.36 | Tierrie|Work | dude |
| 01:20.40 | Tierrie|Work | Telo = Satan Clause? |
| 01:20.45 | Tierrie|Work | Santa, Satan |
| 01:20.46 | Tierrie|Work | whatever |
| 01:20.48 | Tain | Actually he keeps a slave force of elves who code addons. |
| 01:21.02 | Kirov | Satan Claws! |
| 01:21.11 | Tain | Sandy Claws! |
| 01:21.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | who pinged me |
| 01:21.17 | Kirov | Tain - I thought that was fizzwidget |
| 01:21.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Kirov> I think it had rabies |
| 01:21.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 01:21.29 | Kirov | lol |
| 01:21.40 | Kirov | that pings you? |
| 01:22.02 | Tain | Pinged with rabies? |
| 01:22.05 | Tierrie|Work | dude you know i saw a dog today and hoped it didn't have rabies |
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| 01:22.26 | Tierrie|Work | also i read about the conflict in the middle east about all those arabies not helping out |
| 01:22.37 | Tierrie|Work | and i live in the bay area so there's lots of dungeness crabies |
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| 01:23.01 | Tain | Looking a dog with rabies in the eyes will infect you |
| 01:23.22 | Tierrie|Work | do you like dungeness c rabies? |
| 01:23.42 | Tierrie|Work | or alaskan king c rabies |
| 01:24.08 | Tain | I'm sorry I don't have any crabs. |
| 01:24.58 | Tierrie|Work | do you mean c rabies? |
| 01:25.01 | Tierrie|Work | crabbies? |
| 01:25.54 | Tain | Oh no crabbies, I'm not seeing her anymore |
| 01:26.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | CAUSE THIS IS THRILLLLLLERRRRR |
| 01:26.41 | Tierrie|Work | so do you think those arabies in arabia should help us out? |
| 01:27.52 | Tain | Ok I was actually just talking to an ex-girlfriend online and she's watching Rudolph and said, "Hey you're on tv! Oh wait.. that's the Bumble" |
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| 01:31.37 | cladhaire | I am so GD suck of these people |
| 01:31.37 | cladhaire | http://www.wowmatrix.com/ |
| 01:31.41 | cladhaire | sicl even |
| 01:31.42 | cladhaire | sick |
| 01:31.45 | cladhaire | SO SICK I CANT TYPE |
| 01:31.48 | cladhaire | someone make me food pls. |
| 01:34.33 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.arcanerain.com/mods.html |
| 01:35.57 | Tierrie|Work | i think you shoudl put a "README" in the files -- "If you downloaded this from anywhere besides X or Y, then there is a HIGH possibility of it being a virus or your wanker might fall off" |
| 01:36.18 | Tierrie|Work | and then, we make their wanker fall off |
| 01:36.18 | Kirov | Cairenn|afk - oy, another one |
| 01:36.22 | cladhaire | Tierrie: It wouldn't do anything.. sandly |
| 01:36.23 | cladhaire | sadly |
| 01:36.25 | Tain | Did you see the episode of House where the guy's testicle exploded? |
| 01:36.54 | cladhaire | .. nope. |
| 01:36.57 | cladhaire | must have missed that one. |
| 01:37.00 | Tierrie|Work | i think curse puts a file into the archive to prevent people from taking it randomly |
| 01:37.44 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know about it |
| 01:37.46 | Tierrie|Work | and by prevent i meant "not prevent but later make it able to detect the source of the file" |
| 01:37.58 | Tierrie|Work | .DS_Store? |
| 01:38.04 | [Cu]Werik | I think we don't touch the content of any user submitted archives |
| 01:38.23 | [Cu]Werik | Why should we...:) |
| 01:38.24 | norgs | .DS_Store is made by OSX |
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| 01:38.48 | Tain | At least you don't mangle addon file names like some unnamed place. |
| 01:38.56 | Tierrie|Work | oh ok |
| 01:38.57 | Tierrie|Work | :( |
| 01:39.02 | Tierrie|Work | boy am i ashamed! |
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| 01:39.24 | norgs | you using a mav Tierrie? |
| 01:39.27 | norgs | mac |
| 01:39.36 | Kirov | could be a mauve mac |
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| 01:40.54 | Neuro | one hell of a netsplit |
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| 01:43.10 | Kirov | Beladona - fix latest! |
| 01:43.13 | Kirov | :( |
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| 01:44.05 | Beladona | fix latest? |
| 01:44.13 | Beladona | I can't even get to my site |
| 01:44.19 | Kirov | oh? |
| 01:44.20 | Beladona | much less do anything with it |
| 01:44.25 | Beladona | not sure if it is me or what |
| 01:44.29 | Beladona | was just looking for Dolby |
| 01:44.31 | Qshadowp | what happened to all the square minimap addons? |
| 01:44.45 | Qshadowp | did blizzard stop it from existing or something? i can't find a square map addon anywhere :( |
| 01:44.46 | Kirov | Qshadowp - they turned in to simpleMinimap |
| 01:45.06 | Qshadowp | dont see that on wowinterface :P |
| 01:45.16 | Neuro | check wowace |
| 01:45.23 | Qshadowp | ok :) |
| 01:45.40 | Kirov | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3118/simpleminimap/ |
| 01:45.40 | Beladona | anyone having problems getting to wdn.wowinterface.com? |
| 01:45.56 | Qshadowp | Kirov thanks |
| 01:45.56 | Kirov | Beladona - nope. :/ |
| 01:46.14 | Neuro | I am |
| 01:46.18 | Kirov | Qshadowp - try this actually http://www.wowace.com/files/simpleMinimap/simpleMinimap-r21636.zip |
| 01:46.55 | Qshadowp | ok |
| 01:47.29 | Qshadowp | think i finished addon shopping, i have 174 addons now :) |
| 01:47.41 | Qshadowp | not exactly like before 2.0 though i had like 320 addons back then |
| 01:47.46 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:48.28 | Industrial | I have 18 |
| 01:49.38 | Cairenn|afk | hahahahahahahahahaha |
| 01:49.40 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/12/leisure-suit-larry-wii.html |
| 01:49.50 | Industrial | :O! |
| 01:50.00 | [Cu]Werik | Oh no, Larry |
| 01:51.21 | Beladona | wdn will be finished tomorrow. been trying to redo the backend. I think it is done, but I won't know until I can upload my changes |
| 01:51.34 | Cairenn|afk | unh, werik? |
| 01:51.48 | Cairenn|afk | [Cu]Werik: ping |
| 01:52.04 | Qshadowp | LOL |
| 01:52.08 | [Cu]Werik | Yes |
| 01:52.17 | Cairenn|afk | see it? |
| 01:53.06 | [Cu]Werik | If you refer to that larry link, then yes;) |
| 01:53.19 | Cairenn|afk | no, your channel :p |
| 01:55.12 | [Cu]Werik | Yes I did, I was just hesitating |
| 01:55.32 | Cairenn|afk | okay, was just poking in case you'd missed it |
| 01:56.21 | [Cu]Werik | I'm not really a curse representative so I was hoping for someone else starting to speak:) |
| 01:56.36 | Cairenn|afk | I know you're in ~number of channels as I am, it sometimes easy to miss something unless folks ping actual name |
| 01:57.05 | Cairenn|afk | you aren't? *confused* |
| 01:57.10 | Kirkburn | What manner of juiciness might I have missed? |
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| 01:57.42 | Cairenn|afk | hey Cide :) |
| 01:57.45 | Kirkburn | I get the feel [Cu]Werik feels likes he isn't sometimes |
| 01:57.48 | Cide | hey Cairenn :) |
| 01:58.06 | Qshadowp | purl, save Cide |
| 01:58.08 | purl | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves Cide from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 01:58.08 | Kirkburn | Since we having to tell him news about his own site :( |
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| 01:58.27 | [Cu]Werik | Nah, I'm doing this for my own good, I'm not employed by curse or anything. I just like doing it |
| 01:58.31 | Kirkburn | Why me talking like strange foreigner all of sudden? |
| 01:58.56 | Qshadowp | i do not know maybe all talk like foreigner now? |
| 01:59.05 | Qshadowp | talk like foreigner fun |
| 01:59.11 | xgravix | never conjugate verb is waste of time |
| 01:59.11 | Kirkburn | Yay! Me enjoy this |
| 01:59.24 | Qshadowp | me also. |
| 02:00.13 | Qshadowp | lol i love my G15 Keyboard, i dont have to click the WoW Icon to start wow |
| 02:00.16 | Qshadowp | i just press G1 :D |
| 02:00.34 | Qshadowp | hmm...i have WoW bound to a keybinding on my keyboard, does that make me a addict? |
| 02:00.40 | [Cu]Werik | So I was waiting for someone more 'proper' to answer which didnt happen:P |
| 02:00.49 | Cairenn|afk | okay |
| 02:01.17 | [Cu]Werik | or what didnt happen |
| 02:01.30 | Kirkburn | Cairenn|afk, from that arcanerain website: "I dont have them all here yet, but I'm working on it." He has about 15. Riiight. |
| 02:02.09 | Kirkburn | Might take a while longer to get the rest ;) |
| 02:02.31 | Kirkburn | Oh flibblt |
| 02:02.39 | Kirkburn | I didn't see ClearFont on there |
| 02:02.43 | Kirkburn | RAWR |
| 02:03.11 | Kirkburn | Plus I didn't notice the page number in the bottom right. *sigh* |
| 02:04.01 | Kirkburn | G'night all |
| 02:04.09 | Cairenn|afk | night Kirkburn |
| 02:04.11 | [Cu]Werik | On the other hand, I wanted to ask you to join us on our channel but now I know that you are actually there somewhere:P |
| 02:05.47 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 02:06.00 | Qshadowp | is there a mod that does a list of slash commands on startup? |
| 02:07.41 | ckknight | Qshadowp, hrm... not to my knowledge. if you do /ace2 list ace2, you'll get all of the Ace2 slash commands, though |
| 02:07.44 | ckknight | not other mods |
| 02:08.10 | Qshadowp | lol i don't mean a addon that lists all possible slash commands |
| 02:08.15 | Qshadowp | i mean on login, do stuff. |
| 02:08.18 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6193-JIMsSlashCommander-BC.html |
| 02:08.58 | Cairenn|afk | it doesn't, go read the description |
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| 02:09.37 | Qshadowp | yea i know that :P |
| 02:09.44 | Qshadowp | thats why im asking if there is a mod that does that :P |
| 02:09.52 | Qshadowp | i know there was a mod called Startup that did it before 2.0 |
| 02:10.08 | Qshadowp | wonder if that mod would still work if i changed the toc.. |
| 02:11.12 | Qshadowp | lmao its toc is 4216 |
| 02:11.19 | Qshadowp | one very old addon :P |
| 02:12.11 | Qshadowp | dam, still works, cookies for the guy who made that. |
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| 02:12.58 | Cairenn|afk | that'd be Devla |
| 02:13.19 | Qshadowp | not on irc, can't gief cookies :( |
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| 02:24.04 | Kip|TreeBLing | ~cookie |
| 02:24.31 | KiphereCE | what? |
| 02:24.44 | KiphereCE | ~cookie |
| 02:24.56 | KiphereCE | what... |
| 02:24.56 | KiphereCE | the.... |
| 02:24.58 | KiphereCE | hell.... |
| 02:25.24 | Cairenn|afk | purl, give KiphereCE a cookie |
| 02:25.26 | purl | ACTION gives KiphereCE a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 02:25.33 | KiphereCE | I'm bloody confused. |
| 02:25.44 | KiphereCE | is purl digging through my cookies? |
| 02:26.09 | KiphereCE | if so, thank god she didnt find my "naked gnomish men" site I frequent. |
| 02:26.42 | Cairenn|afk | oh, you mean this one KiphereCE? http://www.naughtyamericathegame.com/ (NSFW) |
| 02:26.42 | KiphereCE | I want to play beta bad. |
| 02:26.54 | KiphereCE | but I feel like I'll'ruin it' for release |
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| 02:27.35 | KiphereCE | sex sims? |
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| 02:28.17 | KiphereCE | rofl, thats awesome. |
| 02:28.24 | KiphereCE | I bet my wife would play. |
| 02:28.36 | Cairenn|afk | the trailer is *definitely* NSFW |
| 02:28.58 | Tierrie|Work | is there a way to serialize a lua table into a string, like perl's Data::Dumper module? |
| 02:30.31 | KiphereCE | yeah, watched it already lol. |
| 02:30.48 | KiphereCE | that's rpetty funny. I can't see it being commercially available though honestly. |
| 02:31.05 | KiphereCE | meh, who knows. It prolly wont be offered at gamestop lol |
| 02:31.22 | Cairenn|afk | it was showcased at E3 last year |
| 02:31.35 | KiphereCE | oh well, nifty, throwing that on my bookmarks. |
| 02:32.29 | KiphereCE | the webcam feature might be a mistake. |
| 02:32.32 | KiphereCE | ;) |
| 02:34.29 | KiphereCE | my wife wishes I had a 'button' like that =\ |
| 02:36.28 | Qshadowp | mages FTT! :P |
| 02:36.36 | Gngsk | nerf arcane resilience |
| 02:36.38 | sancus_ | for the .. what? |
| 02:36.50 | Qshadowp | tank :) |
| 02:36.54 | sancus_ | ... |
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| 02:37.04 | Qshadowp | :D |
| 02:37.07 | Cide | heh, wow |
| 02:37.11 | Cide | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59665994&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 02:38.36 | Cairenn|afk | nice, if it works |
| 02:39.09 | Qshadowp | nice |
| 02:39.40 | Qshadowp | doubt they'll ever do that on EU though. |
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| 02:41.24 | [Cu]Werik | sigh |
| 02:41.29 | Cairenn|afk | ? |
| 02:42.32 | Gngsk | ' Translation: We're gonna end up doing emergency maintenance during peak raiding hours.' |
| 02:42.32 | Gngsk | that guy hit the nail on the head! |
| 02:42.32 | Cide | if you wanna be pessimistic, maybe |
| 02:42.32 | Gngsk | definitely pessimistic |
| 02:42.36 | Cide | I'd be willing to sacrifice one raiding day for potentially getting rid of downtime |
| 02:42.46 | Gngsk | yea, true |
| 02:42.52 | Gngsk | even if it only happened once |
| 02:42.54 | Cide | especially since it renders me useless for the whole day (seeing as I'm in europe playing on us realms) |
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| 02:43.29 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 02:46.02 | LoneVandal | Is Winterspring the best place to go herbing for cash? |
| 02:46.17 | KiphereCE | the problem is if the servers are 'down' they're down. |
| 02:46.42 | KiphereCE | if they're up people are playing adn actualy get interupted in raids/bgs/whatever if the servers ahve to eb taken down, 10 minutes or 10 hours it doesnt matter, its the interuption that sucks. |
| 02:46.53 | Qshadowp | lol one thing i hate about downtime is that blizzard arn't very good at useing the clock :( |
| 02:47.03 | KiphereCE | I've never minded downtime. |
| 02:47.15 | KiphereCE | but I work in an environment where i understand why they do it so it never struck me to be bothered. |
| 02:47.21 | Qshadowp | i dont mind it either, i just hate it because when its down i go afk and i come back at what time they said and its not up :P |
| 02:47.45 | Gngsk | if they're going to get rid of weekly maintenance, are they gonna change the raid instance timers back? |
| 02:47.52 | KiphereCE | well, its almost always done by the time I get home from work. |
| 02:48.23 | Qshadowp | i mean on EU they allways say one time |
| 02:48.25 | KiphereCE | maintenance and raid isntance timers arent related in anything other than timeline. |
| 02:48.32 | Qshadowp | generally time said by blizzard +3 hours = uptime |
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| 02:50.28 | [Cu]Werik | If I were Blizzard, I'd take down the realms for a whole day on patchdays |
| 02:50.42 | [Cu]Werik | and maybe bring them up before the deadline and bath in glory |
| 02:50.43 | Beladona | that wouldn't solve anything |
| 02:50.52 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 02:50.52 | Beladona | it would just serve to cause more complaints |
| 02:50.55 | Tierrie|Work | if i was blizzard i'd be like scrooge mcduck and swim in my granary full of gold coins |
| 02:51.11 | Qshadowp | hehe, tauren called CareCow in my av xD |
| 02:51.26 | [Cu]Werik | It would be much easier, people would go to work and school instaead of drooling in front of the monitor |
| 02:51.26 | Tierrie|Work | MooTwo? |
| 02:51.30 | [Cu]Werik | spamming login for hours |
| 02:51.44 | Tierrie|Work | actually it would be better if people recognized wow for an addiction and quit |
| 02:51.58 | Tierrie|Work | but baring that, it doesn't really matter what they do |
| 02:52.45 | Qshadowp | lol |
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| 02:53.49 | KiphereCE | I always ask for more downtime than I need when I'm doign updates. |
| 02:53.56 | KiphereCE | that way I'm done and gone before anyone comes around to bitch |
| 02:54.06 | [Cu]Werik | Exactly |
| 02:54.37 | Qshadowp | yea |
| 02:54.48 | Qshadowp | i wouldn't bitch so much if they had actually done it before they said :P |
| 02:55.00 | Qshadowp | i mean when its down i decide well its down for x amount of time, i'll go do x to eat time. |
| 02:55.09 | KiphereCE | wtf |
| 02:55.13 | KiphereCE | they're putting 2.0.3 up on test |
| 02:55.49 | [Cu]Werik | I'd have stood up after the 3rd patchday where they had issues and say, sorry, we can't make it in time sometimes, we better add another 5 hours to our maintenance intervall |
| 02:55.49 | [Cu]Werik | problem solved |
| 02:55.50 | LoneVandal | What is dif about 2.0.3? |
| 02:55.50 | [Cu]Werik | everyone is happy |
| 02:55.50 | KiphereCE | talents, some bug fixes, etc |
| 02:55.58 | KiphereCE | a toc change to make everyoen sad |
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| 02:56.32 | LoneVandal | ARe the notes up yet? |
| 02:56.40 | Tierrie|Work | bug fixes mostly |
| 02:56.51 | KiphereCE | they merged beta and PTR |
| 02:57.00 | KiphereCE | beta players will be able to log into PTR and have expansion content. |
| 02:57.09 | KiphereCE | non beta players can log in but wont have the expansion content. |
| 02:57.26 | KiphereCE | that's gonna be interesting |
| 02:57.38 | Tierrie|Work | oh nifty, testing that whole "you bought TBC" code |
| 02:57.52 | KiphereCE | I'm assuming its more to test the 'you need to buy the TBC' code ;) |
| 02:58.13 | Tierrie|Work | or the "bitch why u ain't be buying our shiznit?" code |
| 02:58.45 | Tierrie|Work | complete with blood elf finger snapping |
| 02:58.46 | LoneVandal | Where are the notes? |
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| 03:00.16 | KiphereCE | they've got patch notes up on the beta forums for 2.0.3 |
| 03:00.28 | KiphereCE | I havnt seen anything posted on the test yet but I havnt looked which could be why |
| 03:00.44 | LoneVandal | Their main page isn't updated with anything |
| 03:01.02 | LoneVandal | Can you tell me what they did to Mages if anything? |
| 03:08.10 | KiphereCE | "Frostbolt: re-evaluated, when casting frostbolt the mage will shoot a little flag out of their butt that says "brrr" and warriors die. |
| 03:09.11 | Qshadowp | LOL |
| 03:09.13 | Qshadowp | \o/ |
| 03:11.04 | Qshadowp | sigh, i hate stupid people :( |
| 03:11.15 | Qshadowp | theres some girl telling me i hate to date her, because she has cancer. |
| 03:11.33 | Qshadowp | (00:17:06) (courtney_rebel93) plzzzz i only have a few months to live i ws diagnostised with cancer a few months ago i wanna learn as much about love as i posibly can |
| 03:12.36 | LoneVandal | Qshadowp if she is hot you have nothing to lose |
| 03:12.47 | Qshadowp | i think shes like 12 years old or something |
| 03:12.58 | LoneVandal | After all she will die before you have to deal with her for too long |
| 03:13.10 | Qshadowp | xD |
| 03:13.16 | [Cu]Werik | Eh, grow up guys |
| 03:13.18 | Qshadowp | thing is she was due to die about 3 days ago. |
| 03:13.23 | Qshadowp | \o/ |
| 03:14.00 | Qshadowp | http://www.pastey.net/3878 |
| 03:14.10 | Qshadowp | ^ full conversation log there, includeing me and my friends /loling at her. |
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| 03:22.58 | Mike-N-Go_ | What does FuBar stand for? |
| 03:23.44 | cladhaire | nothing |
| 03:25.46 | Guillotine | look it op on google :) |
| 03:25.48 | Guillotine | up* |
| 03:25.57 | Guillotine | its a military term |
| 03:26.35 | LoneVandal | ~excellent |
| 03:26.37 | purl | Excellent is the way to be |
| 03:26.41 | LoneVandal | ~bogus |
| 03:26.43 | purl | Bogus is totally the opposite of excellent, or people that are not excellent |
| 03:28.01 | Kirov | fucked up beyond all repair |
| 03:28.21 | LoneVandal | Or "reason" |
| 03:28.48 | TC_Sleeping | Recognition..is the most widely used |
| 03:28.54 | TC_Sleeping | or however it is spelled |
| 03:29.50 | LoneVandal | So I'm thinking Winterspring is a good place to farm herbs for epic mount money |
| 03:29.53 | LoneVandal | confirm / deny |
| 03:30.48 | a-stray-cat | deny: Stay away from my monies. |
| 03:30.57 | a-stray-cat | actually i have no idea ;) |
| 03:31.11 | a-stray-cat | but wait until BC to get your epic mount, i hear its cheaper in BC. |
| 03:31.14 | LoneVandal | I'm 7 hours ahead of server time |
| 03:31.33 | LoneVandal | So when I play it is not typically super populated |
| 03:31.38 | LoneVandal | I figure herbing would be easy |
| 03:32.32 | LoneVandal | I've heard making money is a lot easier in BC too |
| 03:32.41 | LoneVandal | Like that you have over 2000 gold by the time you get to level 65 |
| 03:32.54 | LoneVandal | Cause the drops in Outland are crazy or something |
| 03:33.14 | a-stray-cat | its true |
| 03:33.20 | a-stray-cat | i made 2500 from 60 to 70 |
| 03:33.29 | LoneVandal | How long did it take? |
| 03:33.33 | a-stray-cat | and thats with accelerated xp |
| 03:33.39 | a-stray-cat | a couple weeks of hard xp? |
| 03:33.44 | LoneVandal | My friend said he got 20% of 61 yesterday |
| 03:33.50 | LoneVandal | But it was all rested |
| 03:34.07 | a-stray-cat | i did one level a day until like 64 ;o |
| 03:34.13 | a-stray-cat | then 2-3 days/level |
| 03:34.14 | LoneVandal | A couple weeks of accelerated xp? |
| 03:34.27 | LoneVandal | So it really does take almost as long as 1-60? |
| 03:34.51 | [Cu]Werik | you mean |
| 03:34.58 | [Cu]Werik | 4 days 20 hours? |
| 03:35.07 | [Cu]Werik | :p |
| 03:37.14 | Tierrie|Work | accelerated xp? |
| 03:37.26 | Tierrie|Work | how many hours did you play? |
| 03:37.35 | a-stray-cat | er |
| 03:37.40 | a-stray-cat | the xp in beta right now |
| 03:37.45 | a-stray-cat | is like 2x or something |
| 03:37.48 | Tierrie|Work | oh snap |
| 03:37.51 | LoneVandal | I wouldn't say it is 2x |
| 03:38.01 | Tierrie|Work | how many hours did you play though |
| 03:38.04 | LoneVandal | My friend said he got 1000 per mob, with rest xp, so it was 500ish |
| 03:38.07 | Neuro | opinion time, what's the most stable all-in-one-inventory solution these days? |
| 03:38.09 | a-stray-cat | i'd have to look :P |
| 03:38.15 | Tierrie|Work | i mean a day |
| 03:38.15 | LoneVandal | A 60 mob in WoW is worth 350 at least |
| 03:38.17 | Tierrie|Work | on average |
| 03:38.27 | LoneVandal | So even if the xp rate is bumped right now it isn't double |
| 03:38.29 | a-stray-cat | 4-5 hours at most, imo |
| 03:38.34 | Tierrie|Work | oh ok then |
| 03:38.38 | Tierrie|Work | i plan on like |
| 03:38.39 | a-stray-cat | i think its pretty close to double |
| 03:38.40 | Tierrie|Work | not sleeping |
| 03:38.45 | LoneVandal | It can't be |
| 03:38.52 | LoneVandal | 350x2 isn't 500 |
| 03:39.00 | a-stray-cat | eh, i thought it was like 250 |
| 03:39.01 | a-stray-cat | per mob |
| 03:39.07 | a-stray-cat | at 60 |
| 03:39.08 | LoneVandal | 300-350 I'm pretty sure |
| 03:39.14 | a-stray-cat | i got to 60 two years ago |
| 03:39.18 | a-stray-cat | so i dont really remember :P |
| 03:39.19 | Neuro | the xp gain isn't increased |
| 03:39.23 | Neuro | on beta |
| 03:39.24 | LoneVandal | Good |
| 03:39.30 | a-stray-cat | serious? |
| 03:39.40 | a-stray-cat | then people will be 70 really, really fast |
| 03:39.49 | Neuro | yes... they simply had lower xp requirements to level before a few weeks ago |
| 03:40.18 | Neuro | a-stray, it'll still take a while... probably the same amount of time as from 40-60 to go from 60-70 |
| 03:40.20 | a-stray-cat | they lowered the xp requirements per level like a week ago |
| 03:40.43 | Neuro | yes, but they're still not as low as when beta first opened |
| 03:41.04 | [Cu]Werik | lvl 60 mob shoud yield 345 xp |
| 03:41.09 | a-stray-cat | ah |
| 03:41.18 | LoneVandal | You know what I wnat to know |
| 03:41.21 | Neuro | yeah.. around 65-66, even level mobs give around 500-550 |
| 03:41.27 | LoneVandal | What did they do with PvP rewards at L70? |
| 03:41.34 | a-stray-cat | thats still ridiculously fast to get to 70 |
| 03:41.36 | LoneVandal | Is Grand Marshall now L70? |
| 03:41.52 | LoneVandal | Field / etc.. |
| 03:41.54 | LoneVandal | The armor set |
| 03:42.03 | LoneVandal | Or did they make a whole new set of armor for L70? |
| 03:42.08 | [Cu]Werik | they are 60 |
| 03:42.22 | LoneVandal | So they didn't update the rewards yet? |
| 03:42.29 | LoneVandal | They're just going to go with Arena at first? |
| 03:42.32 | LoneVandal | For the good stuff |
| 03:42.33 | [Cu]Werik | I doubt they will at all |
| 03:42.50 | LoneVandal | So BC doesn't have any new armor or weapons to spend honor points on? |
| 03:43.00 | [Cu]Werik | arena items |
| 03:43.02 | LoneVandal | I know Arena is supposed to |
| 03:43.11 | LoneVandal | Those use Honor or just Arena Points or both? |
| 03:43.21 | LoneVandal | Are Arena Points basically the same as the tokens from other BGs? |
| 03:43.23 | [Cu]Werik | I guess arena points, not sure |
| 03:43.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | theres new general pvp items too |
| 03:43.34 | LoneVandal | Like what? |
| 03:43.41 | LoneVandal | Werik just said no new armor |
| 03:43.48 | [Cu]Werik | no I didnt say that;) |
| 03:43.58 | LoneVandal | Well what IS there? |
| 03:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | no wsg/ab/av stuff yet |
| 03:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and not sure about the EotS |
| 03:44.12 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know. I have no beta account |
| 03:44.49 | LoneVandal | So there isn't anything new along the lines of the old rank armors and weapons? Can someone confirm that at least? |
| 03:45.33 | [Cu]Werik | Just log on, walk into the champions hall and check it for yourself, really. its open for everyone now:) |
| 03:45.46 | LoneVandal | Right |
| 03:45.48 | LoneVandal | I know about all that stuff |
| 03:46.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | <+[Cu]Werik> Just log on, walk into the champions hall and check it for yourself, really. its open for everyone now:) |
| 03:46.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't think it's in our build |
| 03:46.21 | [Cu]Werik | I just walked in with my lvl1 warlock |
| 03:46.27 | LoneVandal | Champion's Hall is the thing in Old Town right? |
| 03:46.31 | [Cu]Werik | yes |
| 03:46.33 | LoneVandal | With the vendors |
| 03:46.39 | LoneVandal | Yeah been there |
| 03:46.47 | LoneVandal | I'm working on getting the GM Spellblade |
| 03:46.50 | LoneVandal | Mageblade |
| 03:46.50 | LoneVandal | Whatever |
| 03:47.02 | [Cu]Werik | It looks nice :) |
| 03:47.04 | LoneVandal | Blizz already said |
| 03:47.09 | LoneVandal | They won't update those weapons |
| 03:47.21 | LoneVandal | They're just going to make new stuff from now on and make you spend your honor points on them |
| 03:47.29 | LoneVandal | Same with armor |
| 03:47.36 | [Cu]Werik | Thats the whole point of it |
| 03:47.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | well LV |
| 03:47.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?n=1121 |
| 03:47.47 | LoneVandal | So I'm kind of wondering if I should buy anything pre-BC or not |
| 03:47.58 | [Cu]Werik | they are not bad stuff |
| 03:47.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like you're not gonna be very happy :P |
| 03:48.34 | a-stray-cat | im saving all my points for when i hit 70 >< |
| 03:48.35 | LoneVandal | Oh snaps |
| 03:48.41 | a-stray-cat | well, i did get a hwl 1h axe |
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| 03:48.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | honor caps at 90k |
| 03:48.57 | a-stray-cat | but that's all im going to spend any honor on :X |
| 03:49.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | they really need to establish a daily honor cap |
| 03:49.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | so the horde doesn't outpace the alliance so quickly in getting geared out |
| 03:49.39 | a-stray-cat | eh? |
| 03:49.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | or have honor gained based on queue time or something |
| 03:49.45 | a-stray-cat | alliance should play AV |
| 03:49.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | Horde get lots of honor muuuuch faster than alliance now |
| 03:49.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | horde get honor in AV faster too |
| 03:50.01 | a-stray-cat | how's that? |
| 03:50.09 | a-stray-cat | we lose 9/10 av's :/ |
| 03:50.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | they can do 3 AV games in the same time we're waiting in queue for an hour |
| 03:50.11 | a-stray-cat | quickly |
| 03:50.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
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| 03:50.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | you still come out with more honor in the end |
| 03:50.29 | a-stray-cat | really, alliance have queues now? |
| 03:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | than alliance |
| 03:50.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 03:50.38 | a-stray-cat | that's interesting |
| 03:50.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | AV is an hour, AB is 20 mins, WSG is 15 or so |
| 03:50.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | has been since xrealm bgs for our bgroup |
| 03:51.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and most servers before xrealm too |
| 03:51.41 | LoneVandal | My queues on a PvE server, Shadowsong, as Alliance, are 10 WSG, 15 AB, 30 AV typically |
| 03:51.48 | LoneVandal | We lose almost every WSG and AB, win almost every AV |
| 03:51.54 | LoneVandal | So basically we get no honor unless we play AV |
| 03:52.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | horde would rather lose AV quickly than turtle out a win |
| 03:52.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | because its' more honor in the long run |
| 03:52.30 | LoneVandal | What is resilence? Reduces critical strike rating on you? |
| 03:52.42 | LoneVandal | Is it just melee or spells and melee? |
| 03:52.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | both |
| 03:52.52 | LoneVandal | Woop woop |
| 03:52.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and reduces damage done by crits that happen too |
| 03:53.01 | LoneVandal | Awesome |
| 03:53.03 | LoneVandal | Casters need dat shit |
| 03:53.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone does |
| 03:53.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | resilience will win pvp |
| 03:53.49 | LoneVandal | Right, but having less hp than anyone makes me need it MOAR |
| 03:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but since most of my damage is bleeds i don't really care about critting that much |
| 03:54.28 | LoneVandal | So I don't get 2 shot by the Warrior with the GM Halbeard of Killing Squishies with MS |
| 03:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh you probably will still if you don't keep your distance |
| 03:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | what class are you |
| 03:54.44 | LoneVandal | Mage |
| 03:54.54 | LoneVandal | Someone tell me the 2.0.3 Mage changes plz I will luv u long time |
| 03:55.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | you shouldn't be having many problems with keeping warriors far far away as a mage |
| 03:55.19 | LoneVandal | Oh I don't |
| 03:55.29 | LoneVandal | Unless I'm fighting 2-3 guys at once |
| 03:55.39 | LoneVandal | Especially easy for a Gnome Mage |
| 03:55.44 | LoneVandal | Gogogogo Escape Artist now that it doesn't suck |
| 03:55.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm stuck with shadowmeld still :/ |
| 03:56.08 | LoneVandal | Shadowmeld is good :P |
| 03:56.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | its only use is a ganking tool |
| 03:56.16 | LoneVandal | It always has been good |
| 03:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | really, other than that it's pretty much useless now |
| 03:56.24 | LoneVandal | Or a hiding from gankers on a PvP server |
| 03:56.30 | LoneVandal | tool |
| 03:56.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh they know exactly where you stopped to shadowmeld |
| 03:56.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're fighting halfway good gankers it's worthles |
| 03:56.47 | LoneVandal | I mean if you're just in the middle of nowhere |
| 03:56.54 | LoneVandal | And you want to go take a piss without logging out |
| 03:57.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | level 48s can see you about 10 yards off in shadowmeld |
| 03:57.18 | LoneVandal | Not true but ok ;o |
| 03:57.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously, it's reaaaally weak stealth |
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| 03:57.42 | LoneVandal | In AB a Warrior shadowmelded on the road before anyone got near him |
| 03:57.50 | LoneVandal | I walked right into getting owned |
| 03:58.00 | LoneVandal | (that was on a Hunter though, not my Frost Mage) |
| 03:58.37 | LoneVandal | Maybe moving at mount speed makes it less likely to see him before I'm on top him |
| 03:58.50 | LoneVandal | But I sure didn't see him from 12 yards out |
| 03:59.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously, inch up on someone in shadowmeld |
| 03:59.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'd be surprised how far off you can see them |
| 03:59.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really ridiculous |
| 04:00.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | though with my pvp gloves i can see rogues from like 20 yards out and get right in their face before they see me |
| 04:00.12 | LoneVandal | All I know is I like having Escape Artist |
| 04:00.36 | LoneVandal | It hasn't won me a fight yet, but then again I'm at a pretty huge disadvantage with my Mage not having a Chest armor piece or a mainhand weapon |
| 04:00.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd kill for warstomp OR endurance |
| 04:00.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | taurens are straight up better in every way than NEs for anything but maybe warriors and hunters |
| 04:01.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | well and i guess rogues since they can't BE rogues |
| 04:01.05 | [Cu]Werik | humans are still good:P |
| 04:01.20 | [Cu]Werik | that diplomacy bonus rocks hard in wow |
| 04:01.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and perception is pretty nice |
| 04:01.39 | [Cu]Werik | it is |
| 04:02.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate those assholes that pop perception and follow you around and destealth you as soon as the duel timer is up though |
| 04:02.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just forfeit, wait 5 sec, then reduel |
| 04:02.58 | [Cu]Werik | well I hate rogues go stealth and eat food in duel? |
| 04:03.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | me too |
| 04:03.24 | [Cu]Werik | but i'm not a dueler anyway |
| 04:03.25 | [Cu]Werik | thats boring |
| 04:03.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't eat in stealth unless i'm shadowmelded and that's beyond a waste in a duel |
| 04:03.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | since they'd have to be retarded to not find you sitting where you turned invisible |
| 04:10.27 | [Cu]Werik | do you know the name of the horde arena weaponary vendor? |
| 04:11.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | heck i don't even know the alliance one |
| 04:13.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?n=2 |
| 04:13.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's a goblin |
| 04:13.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | so both sides |
| 04:14.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=913 |
| 04:14.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_O |
| 04:14.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | +654 ap |
| 04:29.05 | Corrodias | well... i'm about ready to go to sleep |
| 04:29.21 | Corrodias | but i have to pack up all my crap, first |
| 04:29.34 | Corrodias | exhausted... |
| 04:33.13 | LoneVandal | wtf |
| 04:33.17 | LoneVandal | 88 dps 1H sword o.o |
| 04:35.22 | Tain | Happy Hollar-Days! |
| 04:35.36 | LoneVandal | ... hahahaha |
| 04:35.42 | LoneVandal | The Sword of a Thousand Truths is real |
| 04:35.46 | LoneVandal | It is an Arena PvP item |
| 04:38.24 | seebs | Wait, are you saying there's a pop culture reference in WoW? Amazing. |
| 04:39.47 | sancus_ | haha |
| 04:40.50 | Corrodias | i'm so tired, i don't even know what i want to do right now |
| 04:41.00 | Corrodias | i want to download all my email messages from the school mail server |
| 04:41.28 | Tain | Of course, half the WoW team worked on that South Park episode. |
| 04:56.47 | ckknight | too bad the Sword of a Thousand Truths doesn't have mana burn on it |
| 05:00.38 | Beladona | night all |
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| 05:56.54 | Iriel | evening all |
| 05:57.04 | Cairenn|afk | hi Iriel |
| 05:57.14 | ckknight | hey Iriel |
| 06:00.11 | [Cu]Werik | What's the time over there? 11pm? or 12? |
| 06:01.31 | KarlKFI | 10pm pst |
| 06:02.42 | Cairenn|afk | 1am eastern |
| 06:03.10 | [Cu]Werik | argh, I wish a day were 48 hours long |
| 06:03.29 | Iriel | Only if work remained at 8-10 hours |
| 06:03.41 | seebs | I asked this but then got dragged away before anyone answered... |
| 06:03.50 | seebs | I wanna localize my mod. How should I handle letting users pick a localization? |
| 06:04.39 | ckknight | seebs, GetLocale() |
| 06:05.03 | seebs | 'k. |
| 06:05.05 | VoidRaider|afk | Morning everyone :) |
| 06:05.16 | ckknight | alternatively, vhaarr's (in #wowace) has been working on a mod that makes every mod that uses AceLocale-2.2 work with Norweigan |
| 06:05.22 | ckknight | which is kinda cool |
| 06:05.28 | KarlKFI | If you want to let um choose you can use Auctioneer's BabbleLib or my Localization, otherwise it's easiest to just autmaticly overwrite for the lang of their client |
| 06:05.28 | ckknight | not sure if you need something that drastic |
| 06:05.42 | VoidRaider|afk | just don't forget to use the 2nd value, seebs. |
| 06:05.47 | seebs | Next up: Assuming I want to be good about namespace, can I just declare EVERYTHING to be local to my mod, or do some things have to be globals? |
| 06:05.56 | seebs | The second value? |
| 06:06.12 | ckknight | seebs, nothing has to be global, actually, but it's recommended to make your namespace global |
| 06:06.22 | ckknight | and use that as your only global in the mix |
| 06:06.27 | ckknight | that's how I code |
| 06:07.43 | VoidRaider|afk | ah sorry my bad, was another function haha |
| 06:08.07 | ckknight | everyone, I have an announcement |
| 06:08.11 | ckknight | Dolby-wowi's a pimp. |
| 06:08.36 | ckknight | that is all |
| 06:09.09 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe, what'd he do this time? |
| 06:09.25 | Kaelten | Dolby is THE MAN |
| 06:09.27 | VoidRaider|afk | I had problems with my addon, I used the first localized value of UnitClass("player") while I should have used the 2nd, got confused between these two functions haha :) |
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| 06:09.41 | Kaelten | Cairenn|afk: ;) |
| 06:09.41 | cladhaire | i heard Kaelten eats poo |
| 06:09.42 | ckknight | Cairenn|afk, [paypal] BBCode tags |
| 06:09.58 | ckknight | cladhaire, well, if he eats it, then we all should. |
| 06:10.01 | Kaelten | cladhaire: LIES! LIES LIES! Filthy British LIES! |
| 06:10.08 | Cairenn|afk | nice |
| 06:10.10 | Kaelten | Them and their damned BBC! |
| 06:10.18 | Kaelten | sorry had a Producers moment |
| 06:10.43 | seebs | ckk, I don't think I know what you mean. How do I make a namespace, and how do I make it global? |
| 06:10.53 | ckknight | MyAddon = {} |
| 06:10.55 | ckknight | done. |
| 06:10.57 | cladhaire | ckknight: Whats the syntax for it? |
| 06:11.01 | ckknight | you now have a namespace called MyAddon |
| 06:11.05 | seebs | Oh! |
| 06:11.06 | ckknight | cladhaire, Poo:Eat() |
| 06:11.15 | ckknight | cladhaire, if that's what you're referring to. |
| 06:11.22 | cladhaire | ckknight: I'm quite familiar with that one.. what about [paypal]? |
| 06:11.24 | Kaelten | ckknight: I think he meant the paypal link |
| 06:11.29 | seebs | So, instead of variables named, e.g., "AnnoyRP_SpellName", I'd do "AnnoyRP["SpellName"]"? |
| 06:11.30 | ckknight | [paypal] -----BEGIN PKCS7----- and ----END PKCS7----- [/paypal] |
| 06:11.45 | cladhaire | secks. |
| 06:11.48 | ckknight | seebs, yes. |
| 06:11.52 | seebs | Ahh! |
| 06:11.55 | ckknight | seebs, or AnnoyRP.SpellName |
| 06:11.59 | seebs | ... |
| 06:12.07 | seebs | Oooh! Syntactic sugar was never so sweet. |
| 06:12.13 | VoidRaider | :D |
| 06:12.13 | ckknight | seebs, also, for functions: |
| 06:12.32 | ckknight | function ns:method() end => function ns.method(self) end => ns.method = function(self) end |
| 06:12.36 | LoneVandal | ckknight are you the Cartographer guy? |
| 06:12.38 | Kaelten | seebs: and instead of AnnoyRP_Func() you'd do AnnoyRP:Func() |
| 06:12.42 | ckknight | for calling it, ns:method() => ns.method(ns) |
| 06:12.44 | ckknight | yes, LoneVandal |
| 06:12.46 | LoneVandal | :D |
| 06:12.46 | seebs | Originally, I was doing a lot of things like "local AnnoyRP_SpellName" at top of file, and I had irregular luck with getting them to work. |
| 06:12.48 | LoneVandal | Awesome mod guy |
| 06:12.49 | VoidRaider | flexible and neat, they call it LUA :) |
| 06:12.51 | LoneVandal | Just one question |
| 06:12.55 | ckknight | LoneVandal, shoot. |
| 06:13.00 | LoneVandal | Where are the instructions to use Import? |
| 06:13.03 | seebs | Okay, I am in love with it already. |
| 06:13.08 | VoidRaider | haha :P |
| 06:13.18 | ckknight | LoneVandal, only Gatherer is supported now, you load up Cartographer, Gatherer, and Cartographer_Import |
| 06:13.23 | seebs | I will do this and my mod will take up only one slot in the global namespace, apart from the six dozen or so chewed up by XML frames. |
| 06:13.24 | ckknight | if it works, it'll spam your chatframe. |
| 06:13.24 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 06:13.34 | LoneVandal | Oh ok |
| 06:13.34 | ckknight | right, seebs |
| 06:13.39 | LoneVandal | So, it uses the old Gatherer? |
| 06:13.53 | seebs | So I'm still stuck with horrid names for my XML objects, if I want to avoid clashes. But at least they're localized some. |
| 06:14.14 | VoidRaider | Anyway of comparing two tables or I must use recursion ? |
| 06:14.22 | seebs | I think you'd have to recurse. |
| 06:14.36 | Kaelten | seebs: I use anonymous frames (no names) and do stuff like AnnoyRP.frame = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 06:14.44 | VoidRaider | ok, thanks :) |
| 06:14.45 | Kaelten | and build it in memory |
| 06:15.15 | seebs | Building it in memory has some appeal, I suppose. The code to generate my UI might be smaller than the XML file, and certainly more maintainable. |
| 06:15.23 | ckknight | seebs, that's what I do :-) |
| 06:15.28 | ckknight | allows me to make frames on-demand |
| 06:15.52 | seebs | I will postpone that for a future release, I think, it sounds like a major overhaul. |
| 06:16.12 | seebs | I am pretty sure I can do the conversion to a single namespace in about two passes of search and replace. |
| 06:16.46 | ckknight | I like using namespace style |
| 06:16.48 | ckknight | much cleaner for me |
| 06:16.56 | seebs | I like it quite a lot better. Cleaner! |
| 06:17.09 | VoidRaider | it prevents conflicts :) |
| 06:17.24 | seebs | This kind of thing will eventually lead to a more maintainable code base as I start trying to improve things and add localization support. |
| 06:18.11 | LoneVandal | Argh |
| 06:18.20 | LoneVandal | What is that addon that updates the versions of your addons to fool WoW? |
| 06:19.30 | LoneVandal | Also ckknight since Gatherbook is no longer supported your addon is where everyone is going to look to backup / import their records of nodes |
| 06:19.34 | LoneVandal | :o |
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| 06:20.04 | ckknight | seebs, can I make a recommendation? |
| 06:20.48 | ckknight | for localization |
| 06:21.07 | ckknight | seebs, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLocale-2.2 <-- take a look, see what you think, it could be useful for you |
| 06:21.15 | ckknight | you don't need to convert to the whole Ace stack to use it |
| 06:21.39 | ckknight | but it's well done, easy, and efficient |
| 06:22.15 | cladhaire | so |
| 06:22.18 | cladhaire | so's using a tbale. |
| 06:22.21 | cladhaire | *vomit* |
| 06:22.24 | cladhaire | okay, i'm going to bed |
| 06:22.35 | LoneVandal | Damn you Curse-Gaming |
| 06:23.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | KU-KU-KU-KU-KU-YEAAAAAH! |
| 06:25.35 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2, ? |
| 06:25.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=MiO4xq_0brQ |
| 06:26.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | will answer none of your questions but yeah |
| 06:27.14 | LoneVandal | Right |
| 06:27.21 | LoneVandal | What is that mod that changes the version number of your addons? |
| 06:27.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | wowtoc |
| 06:27.44 | clad|sleep | you shouldn't be using it. |
| 06:27.48 | clad|sleep | is what its called =) |
| 06:28.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but everytime you change the toc and hope things work, a kitten gets thrown into a wood chopper |
| 06:29.35 | KarlKFI | ouch |
| 06:31.52 | ckknight | mmm... kittens |
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| 06:33.01 | LoneVandal | I wish there was a really simple unitframe mod |
| 06:33.39 | LoneVandal | I just want my damn HP/MP and my target's without fancy borders or images or a million menu options and styles and shit |
| 06:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | kittenshakes do the body good |
| 06:35.04 | Esamynn | default unitframes ok? |
| 06:35.34 | LoneVandal | I use them right now, but I wish I could lose the portraits and push them down to my character so I can watch them during PvP without looking away from the action |
| 06:35.43 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 06:36.12 | seebs | Okay, so, I'm doing the namespace thing; "AnnoyRP = {}", then lots of "function AnnoyRP:Foo() ... end". |
| 06:36.43 | Kirov | LoneVandal - try one of the various HUD addons |
| 06:37.01 | seebs | I get an error from "SlashCmdList["ANNOYRP"] = AnnoyRP:OnSlash;" |
| 06:37.08 | seebs | Does my slash command handler have to be global? |
| 06:37.33 | KarlKFI | no |
| 06:37.36 | Esamynn | it has too be a function |
| 06:37.39 | seebs | It is. |
| 06:37.49 | Esamynn | you can't assign with : |
| 06:38.01 | seebs | Oh! So I want .? |
| 06:38.06 | Esamynn | you need to use . and it won't be called with AnnoyRP as the first arg |
| 06:38.47 | Esamynn | ':' = syntactic sugar |
| 06:39.04 | Kirov | Addon:Func() |
| 06:39.04 | Kirov | Addon.Func(Addon) |
| 06:39.14 | Esamynn | are exactly the same |
| 06:39.38 | Esamynn | Kirov and I work togeather (or something!) 8) |
| 06:39.47 | ckknight | SlashCmdList.ANNOYRP = function(text) AnnoyRP:OnSlash(text) end |
| 06:40.05 | Esamynn | ckknight's solution is probably what you want to do |
| 06:40.10 | seebs | Ahh! I get it. |
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| 06:41.09 | Dhraga | morning |
| 06:41.20 | Cairenn|afk | hi Dhraga |
| 06:41.40 | Kirov | or you can just take what's in AnnoyRP:OnSlash and put it as the SlashCmdList.ANNOYRP = function(text) ... end |
| 06:41.42 | abug | are unit ID's localization independent? |
| 06:42.12 | LoneVandal | Does anyone know of a ToC changing program that works in 2.0.1? |
| 06:42.16 | Kirov | abug = yes |
| 06:42.22 | abug | coolsauce |
| 06:42.25 | Kirov | LoneVandal - don't use it |
| 06:42.26 | Cairenn|afk | LoneVandal: don't use them |
| 06:42.31 | LoneVandal | I don't have a choice |
| 06:42.35 | LoneVandal | I need to get Gatherer working |
| 06:42.37 | abug | You always have a choice |
| 06:42.38 | Cairenn|afk | changing the ToC doesn't fix the mod |
| 06:42.38 | LoneVandal | So I can import |
| 06:42.41 | abug | Gatherer is broken |
| 06:42.47 | Cairenn|afk | then get the updated version |
| 06:42.52 | Cairenn|afk | they've got an alpha out |
| 06:42.54 | LoneVandal | Updated version won't work with Gatherbook |
| 06:43.05 | LoneVandal | God damn |
| 06:43.08 | LoneVandal | I hate you Blizzard |
| 06:43.34 | Kirov | LoneVandal - Changing the toc on the old version could cause you to loose all your information if it doesn't work right ... which it doesn't. |
| 06:43.56 | Cairenn|afk | just changing the toc doesn't fix anything |
| 06:44.03 | LoneVandal | Right, I get it now |
| 06:44.17 | LoneVandal | It is completely impossible to import a full set of nodes into Cartographer at this point |
| 06:44.24 | seebs | Well, hey, it's almost there. Now I just have to figure out what's causing an error in UIPanelTemplates. :) |
| 06:48.41 | Esamynn | LoneVandal: what is Gatherbook? |
| 06:51.03 | Cairenn|afk | something which Blizz doesn't really like and hence norgs no longer supports it |
| 06:51.20 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 06:51.28 | Cairenn|afk | share your gather data with others |
| 06:51.40 | Esamynn | ahh yes, I remember hearing about it before now |
| 06:56.15 | seebs | Thanks to BugSack, I am SUCCESSFUL! My addon now has drastically reduced namespace pollution. |
| 06:56.58 | seebs | Now I can try to remember what I was going to work on. |
| 06:57.52 | LoneVandal | Gatherbook was wonderful |
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| 06:59.13 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:59.25 | Cairenn|afk | hey s|loup :) |
| 06:59.38 | LoneVandal | Though |
| 06:59.43 | LoneVandal | At this point I wish I had never heard of it |
| 06:59.46 | LoneVandal | I'm spoiled :( |
| 07:00.05 | Esamynn | LoneVandal: take my advice and forget about it |
| 07:00.34 | s|loup | and do you all have your presents ready for upcoming holiday? |
| 07:01.16 | Esamynn | s|loup: wait, Christmas is soon? |
| 07:01.36 | Kirov | Esamynn - he didn't say anything about xmas |
| 07:01.38 | s|loup | maybe its a myth |
| 07:01.51 | Esamynn | Kirov: yah, I realised that after I hit enter :P |
| 07:01.54 | s|loup | just heard it from third person |
| 07:03.17 | LoneVandal | Esamynn it would seem I have no other choice ;| |
| 07:03.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i look at performancefu and it says 1000 ffps for a second |
| 07:04.12 | Esamynn | LoneVandal: yep, Gatherer 3.0 will have some in-game sharing with guild and party members |
| 07:04.36 | Esamynn | it's in alpha at the moment and I'm getting stuff working again slowly but surely, holidays getting in the way and all |
| 07:05.36 | Esamynn | we used WoW 2.0 as an excuse to do a MUCH NEEDED overhaul and it has taken longer than we wanted to put it back togeather again |
| 07:12.48 | alcaras | Esamynn: will Gatherer work with Cartographer? |
| 07:13.10 | Esamynn | what do you mean my "work with"? |
| 07:13.12 | ckknight | alcaras, yes, but there's already the features in Carto as well as an importer. |
| 07:13.15 | Esamynn | s/my/by/ |
| 07:13.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh my |
| 07:13.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | high pitched fatality noise |
| 07:13.38 | alcaras | Will Gather use Cartographer to interface with the map or will it just ignore Cartographer |
| 07:13.43 | ckknight | and it's a bit more efficient |
| 07:13.45 | alcaras | and do it's own thing |
| 07:13.57 | ckknight | alcaras, well, seeing as Cartographer uses the WorldMapFrame, it'll likely work with it |
| 07:14.00 | alcaras | e.g. I like Cartographer, but do wish for icons on the minimap, ala cartographer |
| 07:14.07 | Esamynn | alcaras: Gatherer doesn't do anything with Cargographer at all |
| 07:14.12 | seebs | Oooh, Gatherer's getting overhauled? |
| 07:14.13 | ckknight | alcaras, I added that |
| 07:14.22 | alcaras | ah ok, so Gatherer won't use Cart's apis |
| 07:14.24 | alcaras | ckknight: when? |
| 07:14.29 | ckknight | alcaras, few days ago |
| 07:14.31 | alcaras | hrm |
| 07:14.37 | alcaras | i should log on a char with gathering :p |
| 07:14.39 | ckknight | works pimptastically |
| 07:14.42 | Esamynn | alcaras: when I wrote him a library to do the hard stuff for him :P |
| 07:14.43 | alcaras | good to hear :) |
| 07:14.51 | alcaras | Esamynn: lol |
| 07:14.58 | ckknight | Esamynn, yea... kinda didn't use that |
| 07:14.59 | alcaras | also, tankpoints is apparently now ace addon |
| 07:15.03 | alcaras | but isn't in the ace repository |
| 07:15.05 | ckknight | :-[ |
| 07:15.09 | Esamynn | ckknight: really, how come? |
| 07:15.12 | alcaras | this means wau won't update it for me, which makes me a sad panda |
| 07:15.36 | ckknight | Esamynn, a few reasons: not hosted on wowace, you took too long and I got frustrated |
| 07:15.47 | ckknight | so I might switch to it ...later |
| 07:15.51 | ckknight | but for now, Cartographer works |
| 07:16.08 | ckknight | also, I was able to do some pretty sophisticated stuff with my hackish version |
| 07:16.14 | ckknight | granted, it's not portable outside of Cartographer |
| 07:16.51 | Esamynn | I'm not going to host it on the Ace SVN, and afaik, the last version I sent to works except for a couple minor things that I need to doulbe check at which point I'll be releasing it |
| 07:17.27 | ckknight | what I have works for now, no hard feelings at all |
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| 07:17.45 | Esamynn | but you could have said something if there were issues, the reason I haven't realeased it is because I wanted to give time to work out all the kinks |
| 07:18.07 | Esamynn | as well as incorporate any suggestings |
| 07:18.11 | Esamynn | suggestions* |
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| 07:21.12 | Esamynn | all I'm saying is that I did you the favour of giving you a pre-release version, I was really hoing for some feedback in return is all |
| 07:21.58 | ckknight | hrm: it was confusing, I didn't see it working in sync with what I was doing (which may have been my misunderstanding) |
| 07:22.24 | ckknight | mmm... lemme go through it and see if I remember my thought process |
| 07:22.59 | ckknight | I heard people got bugs in Gatherer originating from it, so I was wary |
| 07:23.17 | ckknight | you hadn't officially released it, which made me wary as well |
| 07:23.32 | ckknight | um... I had no need for the continent distance stuff |
| 07:24.06 | Esamynn | ckknight: that stuff is available as a by-product of how it places stuff on the minimap |
| 07:24.09 | ckknight | your :GetCurrentPlayerPosition() would've messed with Cartographer's system, especially when in an instance or viewing instance maps |
| 07:24.45 | Esamynn | ckknight: yah, that's changed, I had actually forgotten to send you the new revision, mainly because you hadn't said ANYTHING to me for a while |
| 07:25.02 | ckknight | I was waiting on a new revision, that's why I didn't say anything |
| 07:25.12 | ckknight | we're special. |
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| 07:25.45 | Esamynn | but you know, this sort of feedback is really the sort of thing I WANTED to hear back from you :P |
| 07:26.10 | ckknight | that's why I'm giving it to you now, at least |
| 07:26.15 | Kirov | this line - |
| 07:26.15 | Kirov | SlashCmdList["DEVTOOLS_EVENTTRACE"] = DT.EventTraceSlashCommand; |
| 07:26.15 | Kirov | should be |
| 07:26.15 | Kirov | SlashCmdList["DEVTOOLS_EVENTTRACE"] = DT.EventTrace_SlashCommand; |
| 07:27.34 | ckknight | Esamynn, the way I did it took no account as to the continent yardage, and it seems to work fine... |
| 07:27.45 | ckknight | granted, it only works zone-to-zone |
| 07:27.57 | ckknight | and I don't show any notes on the continent anyway |
| 07:29.14 | ckknight | and you also have the weird Load.xml with the AceLibrary inside your other library, which is not how any other library works... (at least in the wowace world) |
| 07:29.19 | ckknight | that's just a minor tidbit, though |
| 07:29.28 | ckknight | also, your Load.xml has a hardcoded path in it |
| 07:29.59 | Esamynn | ckknight: yah, that has to be changed atm, because relative path loading won't work until the expansion |
| 07:30.11 | ckknight | ah |
| 07:30.37 | Esamynn | but come the expansion, a path reletive tot he XML file will work, making it a perfect solution |
| 07:30.56 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 07:30.58 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 07:32.26 | Esamynn | I'm going to take the time to verify a fix to one more BG bug tomorrow, and then I be posting a "beta" release on WoWI |
| 07:33.22 | ckknight | coolness |
| 07:33.27 | Esamynn | btw, probably the primary reason that you can get errors that seem to come from Astrolabe is because most of the function's don't do arg validation for efficiency reasons |
| 07:33.34 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:33.39 | Esamynn | that was a specific design choice on my part |
| 07:33.48 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 07:33.52 | ckknight | I can understand that |
| 07:34.09 | ckknight | but I tend to like arg validation for API-visible methods |
| 07:34.21 | Esamynn | yah, I had to think long and hard about that |
| 07:34.22 | Esamynn | one |
| 07:34.47 | Esamynn | in the version I release tomorrow, the arg validation code will be there, just commented out, to assist in debugging |
| 07:36.56 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 07:36.58 | Esamynn | you'll notice that arg validation IS done on the functions that add icons to the minimap management system |
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| 07:40.57 | Kirov | you know, any addon that is > 3 megs shouldn't be allowed to call itself "light weight" |
| 07:41.04 | Kirov | Ace2 or not |
| 07:41.14 | ckknight | Kirov, hey, I'm working on it. |
| 07:41.17 | ckknight | and those are mostly textures |
| 07:41.32 | ckknight | I'm trying to get DanG of Atlas to send me his WMO crawler |
| 07:41.40 | Esamynn | ckknight: anyways, in future, it would be very much appreicated if you would raise these concerns with me so that I at least have a chance to address them for you, that seem fair? |
| 07:41.52 | ckknight | Esamynn, right right. |
| 07:43.29 | alcaras | hrm, if i am getting OnShow events on Game_Tooltips, how can I add to the tooltip from within the OnShow function being called? |
| 07:44.31 | Esamynn | ckknight: showing the interest you did in the development of Astrolabe, and getting the favour of a pre-release version and then not even providing any feedback on the pre-release version whatsoever, and instead deciding to not use it without even speaking to me is actually quite rude and somewhat insulting, and it really doesn't make you look like someone others would want to do a similar... |
| 07:44.32 | Esamynn | ...thing for the in the future either |
| 07:44.46 | ckknight | Esamynn, my bad. |
| 07:45.48 | alcaras | "function arguments expected near ':'" - this:GetParent:Show() from within a OnShow() event handler |
| 07:45.55 | alcaras | what in the world doesn't that mean :-/ |
| 07:46.05 | ckknight | alcaras, this:GetParent():Show() |
| 07:46.08 | alcaras | ah |
| 07:46.09 | alcaras | () |
| 07:46.10 | alcaras | thanks |
| 07:46.16 | alcaras | was starting at this for 15m and missed the obvious |
| 07:46.27 | alcaras | staring* |
| 07:46.38 | alcaras | i hate when that happens :p |
| 07:48.09 | alcaras | hrm, this:GetParent():AddLine("hello world") throws attempt to index a nil value |
| 07:49.10 | alcaras | but the tooltip works :-/ |
| 07:49.51 | Kirov | alcaras - this:GetParent() gets the parent of the tooltip from OnShow |
| 07:49.58 | Kirov | if you want to add a line, just this:AddLine() |
| 07:51.18 | alcaras | this:AddLine() didn't work tho :-/ it gives 'attempt to call Method 'AddLine' a nil value |
| 07:52.35 | alcaras | here is a pastey of my xml file and my lua file |
| 07:52.36 | alcaras | http://ace.pastey.net/3882 |
| 07:52.53 | Kirov | ah |
| 07:52.57 | Kirov | hrm |
| 07:53.00 | Kirov | why do that? |
| 07:53.11 | alcaras | is there a better way? :p |
| 07:53.33 | alcaras | the reason it's this way is b/c i was hacking an old version of Jubei_AEP |
| 07:53.38 | alcaras | and that's how that code did it |
| 07:53.43 | Kirov | Well, you could hook the OnShow() event |
| 07:53.43 | alcaras | is there anything wrong with this way? it seemed to work |
| 07:54.15 | alcaras | the only change i'm trying to make is before it would this:GetParent:Show() from within a function called by OnShow, whereas now I'm trying to make it add from OnShow itself |
| 07:54.36 | phreaky | Is there anyway to see wich addon uses exactly how much memory? or.. at least the top memusage ones |
| 07:54.47 | Kirov | phreaky - not really |
| 07:55.03 | phreaky | okey =/ |
| 07:55.19 | alcaras | i guess i'll recode things from the top down again |
| 07:55.24 | alcaras | with hooking onshow |
| 07:55.41 | alcaras | still, i am not sure why that pastey didn't work |
| 07:55.48 | Kirov | alcaras - there's nothing wrong with doing it that way |
| 07:55.58 | Kirov | alcaras - try just doing GameTooltip:AddLine() |
| 07:56.40 | norgs | Anyhow guys - I'm off for Christmas break - see you again around the 15th of January :) |
| 07:57.45 | Kirov | later norgs |
| 07:58.01 | norgs | I'll be on and off on #norganna over the break, so if you want to chat with me, you may be able to catch me when I pop in there. |
| 07:59.18 | alcaras | this is strange |
| 07:59.49 | alcaras | this works fine... |
| 07:59.52 | alcaras | http://ace.pastey.net/3883 |
| 08:02.13 | alcaras | i have no idea what ItemValUtil_General is doing that makes it work |
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| 08:04.10 | alcaras | mm |
| 08:04.24 | alcaras | it calls getattribute, which then scans the tooltip and apparently instatiates this |
| 08:05.40 | alcaras | trying GameTooltip:AddLine()... it seems to work |
| 08:05.44 | alcaras | but puts it everywhere :-/ |
| 08:05.55 | alcaras | on _every_ game tooltip |
| 08:05.55 | alcaras | sigh |
| 08:06.25 | Kirov | There's only one gametooltip |
| 08:06.37 | Kirov | It gets moved around and changed for everything. |
| 08:06.51 | alcaras | mm |
| 08:06.57 | alcaras | i think i know what's happening |
| 08:07.20 | alcaras | here's the whole pastey http://ace.pastey.net/3885 |
| 08:07.35 | alcaras | including the GetAttribute functions which I think help figure out which tooltip to use |
| 08:08.19 | alcaras | though i'm not sure how |
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| 08:15.10 | Esamynn | good night all |
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| 08:18.57 | abug | I think Cairenn is sleeping |
| 08:19.29 | abug | zoinks |
| 08:19.36 | Kaelten | nope |
| 08:19.39 | abug | let's get outta here scooby doo |
| 08:19.44 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
| 08:19.55 | Cairenn|afk | actually, going shortly, almost 3:30am here |
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| 08:20.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | Cairenn|afk: if u never sleep does that mean u are nerd then ? |
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| 08:21.13 | Cairenn|afk | what does sleep or lack thereof have to do with being a nerd? |
| 08:21.15 | abug | female nerds don't exist, it defies the sterotype |
| 08:21.36 | SP|Sorren | http://ace.pastey.net/3887 <- can anyone tell me why thats happening? |
| 08:21.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | well i hang behind the pc at nite instead of take a sleep |
| 08:21.44 | SP|Sorren | i thought nil != false :( |
| 08:22.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | ^^indeed |
| 08:22.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | weird ... |
| 08:22.57 | a-stray-cat | but its letting it through even though the value is false, and not nil :/ |
| 08:23.37 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe the value is nil and the self:Print function prints out a nil as false :P |
| 08:23.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | but there to confuseh |
| 08:24.07 | a-stray-cat | no, self:Print will print out nil, here, 1,true if the value is nil :( |
| 08:24.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | oh i see it |
| 08:24.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | a spell misstake |
| 08:24.21 | a-stray-cat | ! |
| 08:24.27 | abug | lawl |
| 08:24.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | : [ #qmm: Quake3 MultiMod ] - [ Site: http://q3mm.org/ ] - [ News: http://q3mm.org/ ] |
| 08:24.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | [09:01:43] set by Rokscom. |
| 08:24.31 | abug | just noticed too |
| 08:24.34 | a-stray-cat | @$*(@ |
| 08:24.36 | a-stray-cat | i see it now |
| 08:24.37 | a-stray-cat | thanks |
| 08:24.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO how di that end up in my copy paste lol |
| 08:24.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | np |
| 08:24.59 | Dhraga | is there any way to send a msg to a offline user ? |
| 08:25.11 | a-stray-cat | do people still play q3? |
| 08:25.12 | abug | on irc? |
| 08:25.17 | Dhraga | yes oin irc |
| 08:25.26 | abug | botmail? |
| 08:25.30 | abug | ~mail |
| 08:25.36 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, mail is on it's way |
| 08:25.37 | Dhraga | ah thanks |
| 08:25.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | well qmm is a mod for all q3 games not q3 aline |
| 08:25.45 | abug | dunno if purl does it |
| 08:25.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | i never played q3 all :P |
| 08:26.04 | a-stray-cat | i miss q3 |
| 08:26.06 | a-stray-cat | those were good times :( |
| 08:26.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | i had good times on rtcw instead "p |
| 08:27.36 | a-stray-cat | i had good times in rtcw too |
| 08:27.41 | a-stray-cat | after q3 was pretty much dead ;o |
| 08:29.03 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 08:29.08 | a-stray-cat | night |
| 08:29.18 | abug | ~dilbert |
| 08:29.20 | purl | [dilbert] a comic, online at http://www.dilbert.com, or see backissues using this script: http://www.stonehenge.com/cgi/dilbert |
| 08:33.59 | Tierrie | the worst crap in the world is having a burp that won't come out |
| 08:36.50 | Guillotine | what do you guys think of http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunter/talents.html?0000000000000000000005500001100000000000002303000000000000000000 |
| 08:36.50 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:56.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | it sux |
| 08:56.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | u need marksman shit |
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| 09:08.59 | alcaras | when parsing a tooltip, how can i reveal escape codes embedded in the tooltip? |
| 09:16.28 | VoidRaider | Is it wrong to say that the Video Card producing the same amount of frames as a CRT monitor capable to illuminate per second when Vertical Sync is enabled ? |
| 09:19.36 | seebs | Well, it's ungrammatical. :) |
| 09:20.01 | seebs | In general, the ramdac will put out the most recent available buffer <vsync> times per second, no matter how often new frames are generated. |
| 09:20.33 | seebs | The vertical sync thing ensures that only whole frames, not partial ones, are being sent out, and generally caps refresh rate at the monitor's refresh rate. |
| 09:23.40 | VoidRaider | What do you mean by the partial ones ? |
| 09:25.20 | Guillotine | Im2good4u: actually, its working extremely well. frost trap is like an aoe snare |
| 09:25.32 | Gnarfoz | if your GPU has not yet finished drawing the next frame, but the monitor is scheduled to get a new one >now<, then the ramdac will give it the unfinished frame |
| 09:25.35 | Gnarfoz | (vsync off, that is) |
| 09:27.10 | VoidRaider | That in case it's off and not sync'ed, reasonable, then you may see screen-tearing aight ? |
| 09:27.31 | xgravix | some people like no vsync better but i think it looks terrible unless you're getting 300fps |
| 09:28.41 | xgravix | if you dont notice a difference then i guess it doesnt matter which one you pick =o |
| 09:32.16 | seebs | I almost never see a difference, but I generally set it for vsync just on principle. |
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| 09:32.24 | VoidRaider | Most LCD native resolution are working at 60Hz but you can still disable VSync without being worried about screen-tearing, as LCD alter only the pixles that were changed, while the rest is unachanged, changing the pixels state takes time and that's where the LCD response time takes place |
| 09:41.12 | VoidRaider | btw, Anyone runs WoW on Dual Core ? I know there are some problems with it, is it noticeable ? |
| 09:41.34 | KarlKFI | <- |
| 09:41.39 | KarlKFI | has no problems |
| 09:41.58 | VoidRaider | Nothing at all ? :P |
| 09:42.10 | KarlKFI | 2x Duel core Xeons 2.66 |
| 09:42.18 | VoidRaider | haha :P |
| 09:42.29 | KarlKFI | I have no problems |
| 09:42.38 | VoidRaider | ah, ok thank you mate :D |
| 09:42.48 | KarlKFI | course it runs faster on Mac OS than windows |
| 09:42.55 | KarlKFI | which was suprising |
| 09:43.20 | KarlKFI | but apparently the OS layer handles multiple processors a lot better than winblows |
| 09:43.34 | KarlKFI | it only uses 1 core in XP |
| 09:43.50 | VoidRaider | wait, you mean two physics CPU ? :P |
| 09:44.12 | KarlKFI | I have 2 CPUs, each duel core |
| 09:44.19 | nevcairiel | the OS doesnt care if its two cpus or dual core |
| 09:44.47 | KarlKFI | well XP will put different applications on different cores |
| 09:45.06 | KarlKFI | so if you run wow + aim... aim will be on one core and wow will be on the other |
| 09:45.20 | xgravix | hopefully vista will have better multithreading |
| 09:46.52 | VoidRaider | I'm thinking of buying the new Intel Extreme Dual core but I wonder if WoW will run smoothly on it :/ |
| 09:48.25 | VoidRaider | that one http://www.intel.com/products/processor/coreduo/ |
| 09:48.53 | Gnarfoz | core duo is: old |
| 09:49.00 | VoidRaider | old ? |
| 09:49.01 | Gnarfoz | Core 2 Duo is: current |
| 09:49.16 | VoidRaider | yeah that one :P |
| 09:49.44 | Gnarfoz | only one character difference, huge tech difference... people were mightily confused when we sold both of them at the same time :D |
| 09:49.56 | VoidRaider | http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/index.htm?iid=process_main+c2duo |
| 09:50.01 | xgravix | youd have to work hard to buy a processor that didn't run wow fine =P |
| 09:50.15 | Gnarfoz | ebay -> search -> pentium 100 ;D |
| 09:50.20 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 09:50.48 | VoidRaider | Yeah the names can really confuse :P |
| 09:51.31 | VoidRaider | Well I guess I'll have to try and hope it will work :P |
| 09:53.09 | xgravix | its not like its a cutting edge program |
| 09:53.17 | xgravix | you can run wow on computers from 5 years ago |
| 09:53.36 | VoidRaider | I doubt it :P |
| 09:53.37 | KarlKFI | not well, but they run |
| 09:53.49 | xgravix | mine is 2 years old and runs it at max settings |
| 09:53.50 | KarlKFI | I can run wow on my parent's eMac |
| 09:53.56 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 09:54.02 | KarlKFI | 1.2 ghz |
| 09:54.14 | KarlKFI | lowest settings, runs like crap |
| 09:54.20 | xgravix | lol |
| 09:54.21 | KarlKFI | but it's playable sorta |
| 09:54.30 | KarlKFI | long as you dont raid |
| 09:54.42 | KarlKFI | and dont use addons |
| 09:56.07 | xgravix | addons are a problem |
| 09:56.07 | seebs | My spouse used to play WoW on a 1.2GHz iBook. |
| 09:56.14 | seebs | With a number of addons, even. |
| 09:56.16 | xgravix | i had to upgrade to 2gb ram to get addons to work well |
| 09:56.32 | VoidRaider | Hmm well it might be running, the question would be, would it run smoothly or not :) |
| 09:56.36 | seebs | The spousal laptop had 768MB. |
| 09:56.52 | seebs | On my 4-year-old laptop, WoW is playable but not really SMOOTH. |
| 09:56.53 | xgravix | i blame windows xp for taking up 400mb at fresh boot =P |
| 09:56.58 | seebs | 15-20fps. |
| 09:57.33 | VoidRaider | since I read a thread on WoW Europe that well they got into troubles having Dual Core so I thought like asking if anyone had a problem with it haha |
| 09:57.46 | seebs | Not that I've heard of. |
| 09:57.58 | seebs | A friend of mine had trouble with Planetside on a dual-core system, but that's rather different. |
| 09:58.34 | xgravix | you can always disable one core if its a problem |
| 09:58.36 | xgravix | but it wont be |
| 09:58.37 | VoidRaider | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=35983689&sid=1&pageNo=1#4 |
| 09:59.44 | seebs | Well, that's 3 months old. |
| 09:59.54 | seebs | Anyway, no visible problems on the new spousal laptop, which is dual core. |
| 09:59.54 | VoidRaider | haha :P |
| 10:00.13 | VoidRaider | Yeah, I know I can disable it, I really doubt that WoW has a multithreading support, rare are the games that has it nowadays so I assume :P |
| 10:00.37 | Corrodias | what the heck is it with games having problems with dual-core machines? |
| 10:00.39 | seebs | Still useful if the OS isn't painfully dumb. |
| 10:00.48 | Corrodias | why does having two CPU's change things so much? |
| 10:00.50 | seebs | Programmers tend to be lazy. Trust me, I am one. |
| 10:00.57 | VoidRaider | yup :) |
| 10:00.59 | seebs | Multiple threads means race conditions. |
| 10:01.21 | xgravix | programming sequentially is easy |
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| 10:01.40 | Corrodias | "On dual core systems there is a known issue when turning the character that the head will turn but the body will appear to remain facing forward." |
| 10:01.52 | Kalroth | :( |
| 10:01.53 | Corrodias | why does having a second CPU affect how you render character animations? come on. |
| 10:02.04 | xgravix | lol |
| 10:02.10 | Kalroth | Same reason dual core systems are limited to 64 fps. |
| 10:02.24 | Corrodias | that doesn't answer the question; it just associates it with another question |
| 10:02.37 | a-stray-cat | timing issues, i think |
| 10:02.38 | VoidRaider | Well there are things you can't really expect ... |
| 10:02.45 | Kalroth | It wasn't a question, it was a statement. :) |
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| 10:03.04 | Corrodias | it associates my question with the question, "why are dual core systems limited to 64 fps" |
| 10:03.17 | Corrodias | or rather, what you said connects one bug with another but explains neither of them |
| 10:03.41 | VoidRaider | Ask Blizzard they are working on a fix :P |
| 10:03.42 | Kalroth | Because the 3D engine is still stuck in the 80's |
| 10:04.14 | xgravix | so _that's_ why WOW costs so much |
| 10:04.27 | VoidRaider | haha :P |
| 10:04.38 | Corrodias | if you have only a single thread, you won't be using more than one core anyway. if you have multiple threads, you have to account for race conditions even on a single core. what's going on that things suddenly change when you add the second core? it seems like nonsense to me, but my programming basis is in higher-level programming languages |
| 10:04.45 | Corrodias | maybe it makes sense in C. |
| 10:05.05 | Kalroth | Yes you will. Even single threads are using both cores, thanks to the infinite wisdom of Microsoft. :) |
| 10:05.22 | Kalroth | And no, setting process affinity won't fix it. |
| 10:05.30 | Corrodias | eh? |
| 10:05.53 | xgravix | in theory some parts of single threads can be executed simultaneously for increased speed |
| 10:05.53 | Kalroth | Start WoW, open task manager, notice how both CPUs are in use |
| 10:06.05 | xgravix | certain types of loops |
| 10:06.14 | xgravix | i doubt that is related to the problem tho =P |
| 10:06.27 | Kalroth | xgravix: In theory; sure, in reality; no. |
| 10:06.31 | Corrodias | all that would prove, Kalroth, is that both cores are in use. |
| 10:06.40 | Corrodias | it could be explained by how WoW has more than one thread. |
| 10:07.11 | Kalroth | Sure, but wouldn't the CPU usage differ then? :) |
| 10:07.41 | Corrodias | i would expect them to, but games often use 100% of the idle time of a CPU |
| 10:07.53 | VoidRaider | Well all Dual Core was for is supporting the Multithreading mechanism that previously used one core, mybe they are doing some multithreading operation that get a different effect on Dual Core ? |
| 10:07.55 | Corrodias | WoW actually doesn't when minimized |
| 10:07.57 | Kalroth | WoW is single thread based, there's zero multi core optimization |
| 10:08.03 | Corrodias | but i believe it does when it's visible |
| 10:08.35 | Corrodias | VR is hitting at the meat of the issue: why is it that the operations performed on two cores produce different results than when performed on a single core? |
| 10:08.47 | Corrodias | is this a bug in the CPU? |
| 10:08.55 | xgravix | not a bug in the cpu. |
| 10:08.56 | Kalroth | [11:03] <Kalroth> Yes you will. Even single threads are using both cores, thanks to the infinite wisdom of Microsoft. :) |
| 10:09.02 | Corrodias | |FF|Im2good4u, i'll thank you to not send me annoying messages in the future |
| 10:09.13 | xgravix | almost invariably a bug in WOW or windows |
| 10:09.22 | Kalroth | The Windows Kernel splits single thread processing up over multiple CPUs if it can |
| 10:10.08 | Corrodias | are you suggesting that it doesn't do that properly and causes errors? |
| 10:10.25 | Corrodias | well, "hinting" |
| 10:10.35 | KarlKFI | duel cores are only limited to 64 fps in wondows, in mac I've hit over 200 |
| 10:10.36 | Kalroth | No, it handles it fine. It just doesn't give you any more performance and it causes slowdowns in some cases. |
| 10:10.38 | VoidRaider | I guess it has something to do with timing ? but well it's all my assumption |
| 10:10.47 | Kalroth | What KarlKFI said |
| 10:10.56 | Kalroth | And yes, timing is a part of the issue |
| 10:11.01 | Corrodias | timing? |
| 10:11.14 | ZealotOnAStick | KarlKFI - that was fixed in 1.11 or 1.12, with certain driver revisions. |
| 10:11.19 | KarlKFI | nope |
| 10:11.24 | Kalroth | ZealotOnAStick: I can confirm that it wasn't |
| 10:13.46 | Kalroth | As of uhmm, 2 days ago I was still stuck at 64 fps |
| 10:13.46 | Kalroth | @3?%! |
| 10:14.57 | a-stray-cat | yes! |
| 10:14.57 | ZealotOnAStick | I used to be limited to 64 FPS on my dual 7800 GTXs in SLI on my Athlon 64 X2 . . . |
| 10:14.57 | ZealotOnAStick | but I've cleared over 140 FPS since then. |
| 10:14.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Lovely fucking split. |
| 10:14.57 | Kalroth | I'm only using a single 7800GTX, but with my 4200(4400?)+ X2 I never get more than 64 |
| 10:14.57 | Kalroth | using latest nVidia drivers for gfx/mobo/etc. |
| 10:15.52 | Kalroth | Have you installed any special X2 stuff? |
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| 10:17.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I specifically remember reading something a some months back about fixing the 64 fps limitation with WoW on Athlon dual-core processors. |
| 10:17.34 | Kalroth | I'd like to know how then :P |
| 10:17.55 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't remember precisely what it was, but darn sure well afterward, I was getting 100+ fps on stuff. I get about 35-70 in Naxx. |
| 10:19.29 | Kalroth | even in fights? |
| 10:21.40 | ZealotOnAStick | yes. My gaming machine is about 6 months old, but it's still pretty much a beast. |
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| 10:34.23 | AnduinLothar | well, here's more of you |
| 10:34.29 | AnduinLothar | but some of the splits still aren't back |
| 10:34.43 | Kaelten | ya, a lot of people are still missing |
| 10:35.00 | AnduinLothar | i had to reconnect 3 times |
| 10:35.11 | AnduinLothar | other 2 groups i saw had about 7 |
| 10:36.10 | Kaelten | the one I got stranded on had me and 1 other in wowace |
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| 11:03.33 | AnduinLothar | Cosmos Release ready for WoW 2.0: http://www.cosmosui.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16949 |
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| 11:09.55 | AnduinLothar | and with that... I sleep |
| 11:10.16 | amro | good night |
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| 11:39.28 | VoidRaider | That was a long net split :P |
| 11:39.52 | Corrodias | yes |
| 11:39.57 | VoidRaider | :D |
| 11:39.58 | Corrodias | and it's all Kaelten's fault |
| 11:40.32 | Corrodias | just because, you know, i'm psychic |
| 11:40.39 | Corrodias | okay, now ti get a bit of sleep. 'ni |
| 11:45.42 | Kaelten | um... damn |
| 11:45.44 | Kaelten | how did you know? |
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| 12:09.40 | Kirkburn | "more than 105,000 accounts were closed and over 12 million gold was removed from the game economies in Europe, Korea, and the US in the month of November" |
| 12:10.45 | phreaky | where from? =) |
| 12:10.50 | s|loup | us forums |
| 12:11.05 | phreaky | oh, can someone give url.. gotta read |
| 12:11.17 | s|loup | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59377507&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 12:11.21 | phreaky | thanks |
| 12:13.16 | phreaky | haha the fourth response was fun |
| 12:13.20 | phreaky | or third =) |
| 12:13.31 | [Cu]Werik | yoyo |
| 12:15.27 | foxlit | Would be nice to see stats / region, though |
| 12:24.15 | xgravix | were all those guys using glider |
| 12:28.44 | Kirkburn | I think a fair few were - recall a few weeks back when a *huge* number of Glider users were banned and it was madness on their forums .... muahahah :D |
| 12:29.06 | xgravix | yeah i was watch that shit... pretty funny |
| 12:29.22 | xgravix | especially because there was a sticky at the top going into all the reasons glider was undetectable |
| 12:33.40 | MoonWolf | I love how glider people got pissed off and were saying that they were never playing again now that they were banned |
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| 12:37.46 | xgravix | glider is a dumb idea anyway |
| 12:40.03 | krka | imo, making so many parts of gameplay so boring that people resort to bots is the core issue |
| 12:40.30 | xgravix | i strongly agree with that |
| 12:40.34 | alcaras | krka, i agree |
| 12:41.00 | krka | damn it, i was just looking to troll |
| 12:41.06 | xgravix | lol |
| 12:41.14 | alcaras | however, using glider when warden exists is really dumb :p |
| 12:41.18 | alcaras | if people value their accounts at all |
| 12:41.39 | phreaky | Is there an addon that u can add words to ignore whispers that include them? For example ignore http or www to ignore whole whispers that include that? |
| 12:41.42 | xgravix | exactly, thats why glider is stupid |
| 12:41.54 | alcaras | time delete the mount collection, 10 bank slots on beta ... worth more to me than the mounts |
| 12:42.09 | xgravix | shouldn't be running a cheat program in the same virtual machine as WoW |
| 12:43.38 | Kaso | Can someone help me with metatables, i wish to be able to hook a function for all tooltips, the "magic" code i had last time doesnt work so good now. |
| 12:44.17 | krka | i wonder if anyone's made a ubuntu live-cd preconfigured to run wow + some custom hack |
| 12:44.23 | krka | should be pretty hard to detect |
| 12:44.29 | krka | (and easy to use) |
| 12:46.10 | Arrowmaster | didnt glider get detected by warden way back when it was still being first developed? |
| 12:46.13 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all! |
| 12:46.37 | YammYgirlcoding | does someone uses OneBag addon over here? |
| 12:47.25 | xgravix | sure, it was detected and then they made up things like "invisible mode" to hide it |
| 12:47.47 | xgravix | but honestly, putting any program that blizzard doesn't like in memory space accessible to WoW is retarded |
| 12:47.51 | Arrowmaster | i still laugh at how it was first detected |
| 12:48.07 | zenzelezz | how was that? |
| 12:49.46 | Arrowmaster | from what i remember the guy was trying to block some functions that got called as part of wardens detection stuff but he found them with warden in some sort of debug mode |
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| 12:50.35 | Arrowmaster | but the functions were really just wrapers and simply called other functions, and when it wasnt in debug mode instead of calling the wrapers it called the main functions directly |
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| 12:50.56 | Bouvi | Hey ck you here? |
| 12:52.02 | Bouvi | Oh wells. Good morning all. Once today is over I am off till next thursday :) |
| 12:52.19 | zenzelezz | I mean, good for you! ;) |
| 12:52.30 | Bouvi | lol |
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| 12:54.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys is the X as horisontal or vertical ? |
| 12:54.53 | zenzelezz | axis? Depends on the coordinate system |
| 12:55.30 | zenzelezz | often X is "sideways", Y is up/down, and Z is "depth" |
| 12:55.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah oke |
| 12:56.07 | zenzelezz | but like I said, it varies |
| 12:58.01 | krka | for 2d, x and y is always horizontal and vertical, respectively |
| 12:58.19 | krka | for 3d, it can vary a lot |
| 12:58.27 | zenzelezz | good point |
| 12:59.03 | Bouvi | Twisted Sister X-Mas (headbanging to O Come all ye faithful |
| 12:59.10 | YammYgirlcoding | does someone uses OneBag addon over here? I wonder if the bugs were fixed already =) |
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| 13:19.21 | Kaso | Anyone around who can help me with a metatable hook, im really stuck :< |
| 13:19.54 | Kirkburn | NEWS! "On Tuesday, December 26 there will be no scheduled downtime for weekly maintenance" |
| 13:20.16 | Kirkburn | mmm, might be nice is EU is the same |
| 13:20.46 | zenzelezz | EU will probably get extended unscheduled maintenance |
| 13:20.53 | Kaso | ha |
| 13:22.30 | krka | Kaso: why not simply loop through all the frames and update each tooltip individually? |
| 13:22.55 | krka | also, hook CreateFrame to catch new tooltips :) |
| 13:23.02 | Kaso | ha, thats a good idea |
| 13:23.09 | krka | and listen for ADDON_LOADED to catch new xml-tooltips |
| 13:23.27 | krka | not sure why metatables wouldn't work though |
| 13:23.34 | Kaso | well they would |
| 13:23.58 | Kaso | its just i never really understood them, i use used irel's code |
| 13:23.59 | krka | oh i see |
| 13:24.02 | Kaso | but now they changed the metatables to be speicific to each frame type it doesnt work |
| 13:24.07 | Bouvi | No main on Tuesday WOOT!!! |
| 13:24.09 | Bouvi | maint |
| 13:24.15 | krka | one metatable per frame type? makes sense |
| 13:24.19 | krka | what's the problem? |
| 13:24.21 | krka | can you show some code? |
| 13:24.28 | Kaso | umm, one moment |
| 13:25.30 | krka | have you read PIL? |
| 13:25.34 | krka | it explains metatables quite nicely |
| 13:25.56 | Kaso | hmm, i recall reading it a while ago, but i dont remeber exactly |
| 13:26.27 | krka | http://www.lua.org/pil/13.html |
| 13:26.32 | krka | there you go |
| 13:26.38 | Kaso | when i first was looking at metatable hooks i found iriel's code and just used that, it was like magic to me, i was too lazy to try and understand it ^^ |
| 13:27.48 | sbu | huum |
| 13:27.51 | Kaso | also i appear to have lost the code i was using earlier for hooking |
| 13:30.48 | Bouvi | Man I am tired. For a min it looked like krka and Kaso were the same name and that they were talking to themselves. |
| 13:30.58 | Kaso | haha |
| 13:31.09 | Kaso | split personaility |
| 13:32.05 | Bouvi | lol |
| 13:32.26 | krka | well, i'll be happy to help with metatables if you give me some code samples or specific problems |
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| 13:32.49 | Kiphere|Work | HAI GUSY |
| 13:33.10 | Kiphere|Work | ;_; |
| 13:33.17 | Kiphere|Work | purl, greet Kipherece |
| 13:33.41 | purl | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on Kipherece |
| 13:33.48 | Kiphere|Work | :D |
| 13:35.06 | Kalroth | evil purl! |
| 13:35.17 | hugo | lo |
| 13:35.48 | Kiphere|Work | tastey bagels for breakfast. |
| 13:35.53 | Kalroth | krka: Will you help me with metatables too?! |
| 13:36.01 | Kalroth | krka: I have an important metatable question! |
| 13:36.04 | Kiphere|Work | and my company turns the prices off all the coke machines the day before the holiday shut down :) so Free Mtn Dew all ady |
| 13:36.14 | Kalroth | :D |
| 13:36.17 | Kalroth | No sleep for months! |
| 13:36.31 | Kiphere|Work | nah, I have a crazy suger/caffeine tolerance. |
| 13:36.45 | Kiphere|Work | when I was in the army I played EQ and worked a 12 hour shift |
| 13:36.57 | Kiphere|Work | I'd drink like a 6pack of dew a day during work days |
| 13:37.15 | Kiphere|Work | get maybe 5 hours of sleep (had to raid in EQ) |
| 13:37.25 | Kiphere|Work | then bomb on sunday and sleep almost the entire day. |
| 13:37.42 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:37.44 | Kiphere|Work | I think those two years really defined me as a human and made me who I am today. |
| 13:37.47 | Kiphere|Work | AHHH BUGS |
| 13:39.30 | krka | no Kalroth, i hate you |
| 13:39.38 | Kalroth | :( |
| 13:39.40 | Bouvi | Yeah I was the same way. I drank coke and mellow yellow like it was going out of style. Now no more I have Diabetes but I found Diet Sunkist which does not leave a nasty aftertaste. |
| 13:39.45 | Kalroth | What if you get a snuggle?! |
| 13:39.54 | krka | that makes it even less tempting |
| 13:40.13 | Kalroth | But others appriciate my snuggles |
| 13:48.29 | Bouvi | Oh today is going to be a blast at work. I just finished everything on my schedule. Boredom for 8 more hours |
| 13:53.35 | xgravix | build orc out of paperclips |
| 13:55.37 | Kirkburn | Rawr, the BBC servers appear to be crashing, right when I was browsing it :/ |
| 13:55.50 | zenzelezz | omg, Kirkburn crashed BBC! |
| 13:56.00 | Kirkburn | heh, the image and video servers at least :D |
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| 14:00.00 | Werik|ZZz | nn |
| 14:03.23 | Kiphere|Work | HI |
| 14:04.06 | Kiphere|Work | God i love mtn dew. |
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| 14:04.08 | Kiphere|Work | its so tastey |
| 14:05.00 | Kiphere|Work | I crave a working model viewer. |
| 14:05.16 | Kiphere|Work | I"m big on aesthetics (sp) and especially weapon animations. |
| 14:05.20 | Bouvi | Oh lord yes!! |
| 14:05.32 | Bouvi | I used model viewer to make my UIs |
| 14:05.35 | Kiphere|Work | I wanna see belf and draenei animations and general motions so I can help make up my mind. |
| 14:06.03 | Kiphere|Work | I use it for a lot of graphics work for email signatures, website banners (I've made some you've probably seen but wont claim :P ) |
| 14:06.07 | Kiphere|Work | and avatars. |
| 14:07.32 | Bouvi | http://www.baldurwok.com/forums/images/baldurwok/BaldurwokBanner6.jpg made the forum banner for our guild. That is all the officers. |
| 14:07.50 | Bouvi | I am the rogue on the right. The hunter there with the big gun is my wife's character. |
| 14:08.43 | Kiphere|Work | not bad. |
| 14:08.56 | Bouvi | I had them all saved in model viewer :( |
| 14:09.21 | Kiphere|Work | I've got some rough drafts for the banner I'm going tomake for my upcoming guild |
| 14:10.03 | Bouvi | Mine is crowded but they wanted all the officers in it :( The original one only had two. |
| 14:10.15 | Kiphere|Work | http://xavius.xpt.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=9 |
| 14:10.30 | Kiphere|Work | hope that link works ;P its an embedded image |
| 14:10.41 | Bouvi | Kewl I like the darkness it it. |
| 14:11.01 | Kiphere|Work | The flame is custom drawn into fireworks using a 'blur' tool and multiple layers of color |
| 14:11.14 | Kiphere|Work | it causes a weird transparency shadow effect when you put it over other layers. |
| 14:11.22 | Bouvi | I think I still have a version of wow on my computer I did not update (used it for making UIs). If that is the case I am linking the old version to it. |
| 14:11.52 | Kiphere|Work | I still need to sharpen the crest images a little bit and texture the "Perdition" |
| 14:12.15 | Kiphere|Work | and i'm gonna try to put a lens flare effect with a light reflection off the gem at the top of the belf crest. |
| 14:12.37 | Bouvi | Made the animated me swinging my claw using it on here: http://www.bouvi.com/ |
| 14:13.47 | Kiphere|Work | hemo fist? |
| 14:14.05 | Bouvi | hemo? |
| 14:15.03 | Kiphere|Work | ... |
| 14:15.11 | Kiphere|Work | that would be a no, rofl. |
| 14:15.14 | Bouvi | Hey I am alseep here still lol |
| 14:15.38 | Bouvi | The weapon is the Black Drake Claw. My build is combat. My look sexy. |
| 14:15.49 | Kiphere|Work | hemo is a a subtlety talent :p |
| 14:16.02 | Kiphere|Work | I didnt know people went combat fists |
| 14:16.06 | Bouvi | Don't use it lol. I have nothing in the subtlety tree |
| 14:16.16 | Kiphere|Work | pve server? ;) |
| 14:16.26 | Bouvi | Works great. I outdamaged everyone and own in BGs for now. |
| 14:16.37 | Bouvi | Yep PvE. I got enough of pvp in shadowbane |
| 14:18.29 | Bouvi | My build right now: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=foxZMhEz0VzVrGRt |
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| 14:22.24 | Kiphere|Work | ugh |
| 14:22.35 | Kiphere|Work | I think I saw on my ass too long, not gonna be able to get a collectors edition TBC |
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| 14:25.07 | zenzelezz | you shouldn't be sawing your ass, it's bad for you |
| 14:25.19 | Bouvi | I am waiting on best buy to offer it but they have not got it up for preorder yet |
| 14:26.18 | Kiphere|Work | does bestbuy do pre-orders? |
| 14:26.34 | Kiphere|Work | Amazon is turning into Ebay. |
| 14:26.51 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 14:26.52 | Kiphere|Work | there are people selling TBC Collectors editions, then in the fine print it says 'Does not include Account code or pet.' |
| 14:26.58 | Kiphere|Work | on amazon. |
| 14:27.10 | Bouvi | O.o |
| 14:27.14 | Kiphere|Work | and its selling fro 175 dollars. |
| 14:27.20 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 14:27.20 | Kiphere|Work | http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0001O10V8/ref=dp_olp_0/103-3581813-9384609?ie=UTF8&condition=all |
| 14:27.29 | Kiphere|Work | I hate humans sometimes. |
| 14:27.53 | Kiphere|Work | some one is gonna get desperate, not read that ebcause amazon doesnt make you. you just 'buy one of available' and they're gonna get shafted. |
| 14:27.57 | krka | i hate mosquitos sometimes |
| 14:27.59 | Kirkburn | Price: "$999.98" |
| 14:28.00 | krka | mostly at summer |
| 14:28.18 | Kiphere|Work | I don't care so much about stupid people getting shafted for being stupid, but they just complain a lot and I have to weed through it to get to real info on the forums. |
| 14:28.40 | Kirkburn | Kiphere that's not TBC |
| 14:29.03 | Kirkburn | That's the original, so someone *might* want it just for the boxed stuff |
| 14:29.13 | Kirkburn | Still a stupid price though |
| 14:29.34 | Kiphere|Work | what the hell, the link I clicked on was a picture of the burning crusade box lol |
| 14:29.39 | Kirkburn | = |
| 14:29.40 | Kirkburn | ) |
| 14:29.44 | Kiphere|Work | this is why I avoid buying shit online. |
| 14:29.53 | Bouvi | After X-Mas wife and I will have enough best buy gift cards to get it. I might just have it overnighted. |
| 14:29.58 | Kirkburn | I think many people avoid buying shit online, tbh |
| 14:30.02 | Kiphere|Work | It's a maze of razorblades waiting to cut your money purse. |
| 14:30.07 | Bouvi | I buy everything online |
| 14:30.12 | Kirkburn | Shit doesn't travel well |
| 14:30.23 | Kiphere|Work | purl, stab kirkburn |
| 14:30.26 | purl | ACTION runs at kirkburn with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 14:30.34 | Kirkburn | eeek! |
| 14:30.36 | Bouvi | Been buying online for over 10 years. Never had any problem. |
| 14:30.43 | alcaras | purl, execute order 66 |
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| 14:31.16 | Kiphere|Work | when I spend money I like to have wahtever I just bought in my hand. |
| 14:31.22 | Kiphere|Work | be it a game, cd, food, or a hooker. |
| 14:31.27 | Kiphere|Work | s/hooker/car/ |
| 14:31.35 | Kiphere|Work | typo |
| 14:32.18 | Bouvi | purl, execute order 21 |
| 14:32.27 | Bouvi | purl is bad |
| 14:34.42 | Kiphere|Work | purl, execute order 99 |
| 14:34.43 | purl | ACTION puts a ferret in a sock and throws it at the "enemy" |
| 14:35.08 | Bouvi | purl, execute order 89 |
| 14:35.18 | Bouvi | purl, execute order 1 |
| 14:35.27 | Bouvi | purl, smack me |
| 14:35.29 | purl | ACTION smacks bouvi upside the head. |
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| 14:37.31 | Kiphere|Work | Dr. Steel time! |
| 14:41.45 | Kip|ToySoldier | tell yer children not to walk my way.... motherr |
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| 14:52.04 | Kip|ToySoldier | heh, apparently my co-workers disagree with me on my choice of early morning Ozzy and Danzig tracks ;) |
| 14:52.10 | Kip|ToySoldier | I've heard "It's to early for that shit" 4 times now. |
| 14:52.30 | Kip|ToySoldier | and only 2 people work in this office with me ^_^ |
| 14:53.33 | Kirkburn | oooh, Beladona is working on wdn |
| 14:55.06 | zenzelezz | there was much rejoicing |
| 15:00.11 | Kip|ToySoldier | ugh |
| 15:00.21 | Kip|ToySoldier | I hate when some idiot who's never played WoW calls it a 'simple' mmo. |
| 15:00.55 | zenzelezz | in his defense, if you only watch screenshots of it it does look simple |
| 15:01.23 | Kip|ToySoldier | unfortunately some of my more intelligent friends feel the same way and have never played. |
| 15:01.30 | Kip|ToySoldier | and they know better than to look at a SS can call it. |
| 15:01.30 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 15:01.48 | Kip|ToySoldier | I mean, I've played damn near every MMO on the market and some that arent anymore or never made it to market. |
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| 15:02.09 | Kip|ToySoldier | of all of them I can safely say that WoW has one of the broadest spectrums of content/mechanics. |
| 15:02.12 | Kip|ToySoldier | easily top 5. |
| 15:02.42 | Kip|ToySoldier | it has a low entry bar but a lot of 'you get what you put into it' type mechanics that make the game more scalable for people based on skill, time investment and effort. |
| 15:02.49 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 15:03.00 | Kip|ToySoldier | most of the people who think its 'simple' from my little group of friends are rabid eve fans. |
| 15:03.32 | Kip|ToySoldier | a game that will run a person looking for a 'game' to 'enjoy' away in the first day. |
| 15:03.34 | Kip|ToySoldier | digital masochists >< |
| 15:05.16 | zenzelezz | I've played WoW for over a year now, but I still feel out of place without people sending me "NCU GSF HOT plz" tells |
| 15:06.14 | Kip|ToySoldier | there's a lot of idiots ;P |
| 15:06.25 | Kip|ToySoldier | thats the price you pay for playin an approachable game. |
| 15:06.39 | Kip|ToySoldier | I'm seriously concerned now that i'm not gonna get a collectors edition copy of TBC :p |
| 15:06.50 | Kip|ToySoldier | I knew I should have reserved one the day they went available at eb lol |
| 15:07.01 | zenzelezz | will it matter to you? |
| 15:08.11 | Kip|ToySoldier | yup |
| 15:08.32 | Kip|ToySoldier | my main account is CE, I want to get CE TBC for it too. |
| 15:08.38 | Kip|ToySoldier | and any other expansions that come out while I'm still playing. |
| 15:08.49 | Kip|ToySoldier | my second account is norm and will get norm expansion |
| 15:09.19 | Bouvi | Well Best Buy still does not offer preorder for it. |
| 15:09.30 | Kip|ToySoldier | I'm gonna have to camp for a CE :P |
| 15:09.52 | alcaras | best buy _canceled_ my CE order |
| 15:10.06 | Kip|ToySoldier | from what I know they generally don't like doing preorders anymore. |
| 15:10.08 | Bouvi | How did you order it? |
| 15:10.08 | alcaras | ordered regular from amazon :p |
| 15:10.10 | alcaras | online |
| 15:10.19 | alcaras | their billing system got confused, i got e-mails about it |
| 15:10.21 | alcaras | called them |
| 15:10.26 | alcaras | and they were like "don't worry, everything is ok" |
| 15:10.26 | Bouvi | I have to use Best Buy :( that is where the gift cards are from |
| 15:10.27 | alcaras | called them twice |
| 15:10.34 | alcaras | then it got canceled |
| 15:10.42 | alcaras | then called them three times, each time "uh, we screwed up, sorry" |
| 15:10.48 | alcaras | "nothing we can do |
| 15:10.49 | Kip|ToySoldier | maybe my Ebs and Gamestops will have some spots left. |
| 15:11.00 | alcaras | i'm happy with regular edition |
| 15:11.06 | alcaras | never use the pet anyway |
| 15:11.14 | Bouvi | Yeah I am thinking regular for the wife and me too. |
| 15:11.19 | zenzelezz | I ordered normal from Amazon(.co.uk), and it kindly informed me it wouldn't be there for christmas, but suggested it might if I chose a faster delivery method O_o |
| 15:11.24 | alcaras | and my gf is getting collectors so i can just borrow the art book and dvd from her when we next see each other |
| 15:12.25 | Kip|ToySoldier | it's just a 'thing' for me. |
| 15:12.34 | Kip|ToySoldier | my primary account is CE, I want it to stay CE compeltely. |
| 15:12.40 | Kip|ToySoldier | the pet and other junk doesnt matter, (though its nice) |
| 15:13.48 | Kip|ToySoldier | back in a bit, have to go shut down a few labs for the holiday. |
| 15:14.03 | Cairenn|afk | later Kip|ToySoldier |
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| 15:24.16 | zenzelezz | probably a noob question, but does Power Word: Shield absorb raw damage, or does armor/resistance lower the damage before it's absorbed? |
| 15:25.58 | Cide | armor goes first |
| 15:26.15 | zenzelezz | neat, cheers :) |
| 15:32.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is why inner fire rocks |
| 15:32.54 | zenzelezz | it makes more sense to me now, yeah =) |
| 15:35.59 | zenzelezz | "[Dfdfyhd] whispers: Merry Christmas! For any purchase gold <snip>" |
| 15:36.04 | zenzelezz | so courteous they are |
| 15:44.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love the peons for hire ad with santa |
| 15:45.00 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 15:45.13 | zenzelezz | "'Ouch' you say as one falls on your he" |
| 15:50.00 | foxlit | You can only be in 3 pvp queues? |
| 15:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeo :/ |
| 15:50.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | er yep |
| 15:50.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | including arenas |
| 15:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh new ptr |
| 15:54.19 | alcaras | if you're queued for rated arena, btw, you can't be queued for anything else |
| 15:54.22 | alcaras | at all. |
| 15:55.17 | Corrodias | is 2.0.2 out yet? ;) |
| 15:55.37 | foxlit | not live, no. |
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| 15:57.48 | foxlit | grrr, "Your browser is not supported." |
| 15:59.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | god i wish the downloader for the PTR put the torrent file in your cache folder |
| 15:59.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't like this "uses all your upload so your download is choked" thing |
| 15:59.23 | foxlit | Explicit check for IE too, silly people. As if lynx supports css. |
| 15:59.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | useragent hacks won't work either? |
| 15:59.55 | Kirkburn | foxlit, what's that? |
| 16:00.09 | Kirkburn | What did I miss? |
| 16:00.21 | foxlit | Just a random website. |
| 16:00.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i change my user agent to googlebot every now and then just to see the world from their eyes |
| 16:00.53 | Kirkburn | foxlit, a website that blocks IE? |
| 16:01.14 | foxlit | Yes, happens every so often. mozilla zealots :/ |
| 16:01.20 | Kirkburn | Sad, sad people |
| 16:01.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh i understand not coding around IE anymore |
| 16:01.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but doing a useragent check for IE is just mean |
| 16:02.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | just letting websites stay broken in IE so proper browsers see things right from now on would be a much better decision |
| 16:02.45 | foxlit | Thing is, it's not even broken in IE. |
| 16:02.46 | zenzelezz | aye |
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| 16:09.28 | Kip|ToySoldier | backz0r |
| 16:09.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x dammit |
| 16:10.02 | Cairenn|afk | front |
| 16:10.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | this blizzard downloader needs to stop hogging my upload |
| 16:10.26 | Kip|ToySoldier | you sound like my wife Cairenn >< |
| 16:11.02 | Cairenn|afk | I wouldn't count on that ... you don't know the ending to that |
| 16:11.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually set my upload to like 20 K/s and the downloader's using like 45, which is technically faster than my connection should be supporting @_@ |
| 16:11.57 | Kip|ToySoldier | I dunno, it could go a lot of ways with my wife too ;) |
| 16:12.06 | Kip|ToySoldier | usually ends up in eitehr pain or embarassment for me ;_; |
| 16:12.25 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 16:13.16 | Cairenn|afk | well that's good then, means she's got you properly trained at least |
| 16:13.41 | Kip|ToySoldier | you'd think well trained would preclude the need for continual application of the newspaper and other impliments of destruction. |
| 16:14.10 | Kip|ToySoldier | I should have known something was up when she moved in and I saw a riding crop sticking out of a box. In my head I thought "Oh, she likes horseys!" |
| 16:15.13 | Kip|ToySoldier | bam |
| 16:15.14 | zenzelezz | that reminds me of when I was 12 or so and a friend showed me a riding crop in his parents' bedroom... *shudders* |
| 16:15.36 | Cairenn|afk | zenzelezz: lol, ewww (at that time) |
| 16:15.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | horses would probably be the last thing on my mind if i saw a riding crop just hanging around somewhere, but i've been corrupted by the internet :x |
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| 16:16.25 | KiphereCE | my wife's answer to everything. |
| 16:16.26 | zenzelezz | Cairenn|afk: they were quite a weird family really... he also at one point showed me their porn magazines... I stopped hanging out with him eventually |
| 16:16.52 | YammYgirlcoding | riding crop is some sexual position? |
| 16:16.55 | Cairenn|afk | zenzelezz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_crop |
| 16:16.59 | KiphereCE | Yamm: its generally a flexible 'stick' with a loop of leather at the end. |
| 16:17.15 | zenzelezz | why are you linking me to that? o_O |
| 16:17.19 | YammYgirlcoding | aaaaaaaaaaaah that thing to scare horses to run more |
| 16:17.25 | KiphereCE | yeah |
| 16:17.31 | Cairenn|afk | errr, YammYgirlcoding rather, sorry |
| 16:17.36 | KiphereCE | or scare your significant other into obedience in some situations :P |
| 16:17.53 | YammYgirlcoding | ^^ |
| 16:18.49 | KiphereCE | last year I made black leather circular braided keychain fobs for my family. |
| 16:19.04 | KiphereCE | lots of uncomfortable 'thank you' cards followed ^_^ |
| 16:19.08 | YammYgirlcoding | well i think it would be very painfull to receive a riding crop slap on me.. would be a huge TURN OFF... |
| 16:19.44 | KiphereCE | you know what they say. |
| 16:19.51 | KiphereCE | different strokes and what nto |
| 16:19.59 | KiphereCE | s/nto/not |
| 16:20.03 | KiphereCE | blah |
| 16:20.07 | KiphereCE | forgot the trailing / again. |
| 16:22.18 | KiphereCE | ok,. room took a weird turn there for a few minutes. |
| 16:22.36 | KiphereCE | SO, how bout that latest mod and/or addon, isnt it's <function> and <style> just awesome?! |
| 16:23.36 | zenzelezz | no, it's a blatant rip-off of <other mod> and it liek sucks!!!1 |
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| 16:25.46 | KiphereCE | ~emulate zenzelezz |
| 16:25.48 | purl | OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT! |
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| 16:29.22 | KiphereCE | ;_; |
| 16:29.31 | KiphereCE | none of the EBs are taking preorders for TBC CE anymore |
| 16:29.41 | KiphereCE | ~sad panda |
| 16:32.23 | KiphereCE | ~orly |
| 16:32.25 | purl | YARLY |
| 16:32.29 | KiphereCE | ~srlsy |
| 16:32.35 | KiphereCE | ~srsly |
| 16:32.45 | KiphereCE | hrm |
| 16:32.48 | KiphereCE | ~norly |
| 16:32.50 | alcaras | ~orly |
| 16:32.51 | purl | YARLY |
| 16:32.52 | alcaras | ~nowai |
| 16:32.54 | purl | SRSLY. |
| 16:32.59 | KiphereCE | thats it heh |
| 16:33.47 | KiphereCE | ~Kenny G |
| 16:33.49 | purl | Look at my pretty, pretty hair! |
| 16:34.01 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 16:34.39 | MentalPower|PC | lol, nice |
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| 16:35.10 | KiphereCE | blah, even frys isnt taking preorders for the CE. |
| 16:35.35 | Gnarfoz | you're late by... about a month? |
| 16:35.36 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:35.55 | KiphereCE | I didn't expect em to run out that fast tbh |
| 16:36.05 | KiphereCE | I got my CE release on launch day |
| 16:36.16 | KiphereCE | I'll just hit bestbuy up when they open on release day |
| 16:36.20 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 16:36.28 | KiphereCE | gives me an excuse to take that day off. |
| 16:36.31 | Gnarfoz | they will not take preorders for their whole stock will they |
| 16:36.45 | Gnarfoz | what would they sell at their store ^^ |
| 16:36.50 | KiphereCE | I think EB takes preorders on CE's until they have no more CEs |
| 16:37.08 | KiphereCE | they don't cap their regular versions though, so there's always 'some' left. |
| 16:37.13 | KiphereCE | afk free drinks. |
| 16:37.15 | KiphereCE | brb |
| 16:45.08 | KiphereCE | back |
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| 16:45.14 | KiphereCE | you all missed me a lot I bet. |
| 16:45.20 | KiphereCE | it's cool, I'm here now. |
| 16:46.56 | Gnarfoz | ~comfort KiphereCE |
| 16:46.58 | purl | There, there, KiphereCE. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:47.33 | KiphereCE | purl, flirt cogwheel |
| 16:47.54 | KiphereCE | it's ok purl, I understand. |
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| 16:49.51 | KiphereCE | wtf. |
| 16:50.37 | KiphereCE | I call, ask about reservations on copies of software and I didn't even 'say' the software name. |
| 16:50.37 | KiphereCE | and the fuck at the other end says 'we're all out' and hangs up. |
| 16:50.55 | KiphereCE | looks like wayne brady's gonna have to choke a b*tch |
| 16:51.01 | Gnarfoz | heh, guess what his day was like ;p |
| 16:51.18 | KiphereCE | guess what it's gonna be like shortly, he answered the phone with his name :p |
| 16:52.09 | axxo | he reads minds |
| 16:52.29 | KiphereCE | if I can deal with the customers i have to deal with on a daily basis (and mine don't buy something adn go away, they're persistant) and keep a smile and pleasant helpful attitude i expect the guy who's giving me fries or finding me an ipod to do the same. :p |
| 16:53.00 | Gnarfoz | god how I hate people like you ^^ |
| 16:53.24 | Gnarfoz | I'd simply not buy stuff there anymore, that's the worst thing you can do that actually affects them |
| 16:53.42 | Gnarfoz | got other things to do than make other peoples lives complicated |
| 16:53.43 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 16:53.57 | KiphereCE | wrong, that's how you hurt a small company that cares about an individual consumer |
| 16:54.14 | KiphereCE | I don't have a problem with the company. I have a problem with the asshole on the other end of the phone. |
| 16:54.27 | Gnarfoz | didn't say where you called, though :) |
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| 16:54.32 | KiphereCE | I was polite. |
| 16:54.56 | KiphereCE | Even if it was a small company, the issue isnt with the business itself, why would i punish the company for the fault of 1 bad employee |
| 16:56.49 | KiphereCE | I'm not the guy who runs into a store and acts like an ass then expects to have his feet licked while he shops and complains when the salseperson gets a little attitude or isn't helpful. |
| 16:57.19 | Kalroth | He probably had a bad day :p |
| 16:57.30 | KiphereCE | I've worked in retail and I'm very customer oriented in my current job, I'm the guy that politely waits while the assholes stomp around, and then asks his question. So, I get mad when I'm not shown the same courtesy. |
| 16:57.49 | Gnarfoz | heh my bad then, assumptions and stuff ^^ |
| 16:58.06 | alcaras | any experienced gratuity people know why this code always says 'No weapon equipped'? http://ace.pastey.net/3895 |
| 16:58.11 | KiphereCE | It's ok, its a safe assumption when some one rants about bad customer service that they most likely incited the incedent themselves, most do. |
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| 17:00.28 | KiphereCE | I need another topic to rant about that is popular enough to entice other folks to rant along with me in an intelligent debate that lasts approximately 3.5 hours so I can waste the rest of my day |
| 17:01.18 | Gnarfoz | I'll pass |
| 17:01.18 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 17:01.27 | Gnarfoz | have to get leveling or else my planned BC char won't be 60 by the time BC is released |
| 17:01.40 | KiphereCE | thats my problem next week =\ |
| 17:01.50 | KiphereCE | my 'planned BC' character is a bloodelf and I'm off ALL week |
| 17:01.52 | KiphereCE | and no BC +\ |
| 17:02.16 | Gnarfoz | bad |
| 17:02.16 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 17:02.44 | Gnarfoz | mine is level 42 already, but work and social stuff like christmas is going to hinder me anyway |
| 17:03.21 | KiphereCE | I could put my shaman to 60 but most of my friends wanna reroll |
| 17:03.26 | KiphereCE | and i do to realyl. |
| 17:03.37 | KiphereCE | but that puts me at an odd point in WoW where anything I do now is sort of a waste |
| 17:04.58 | Gnarfoz | replace 'anything' with 'playing one of my two 60s (decked out in high-end pve gear) on a half-empty server where only a hand full of good players play' and you've got my situation ;) |
| 17:05.40 | Gnarfoz | luckily I have only ever been playing alliance chars, so leveling an undead is still kind of fun because I don't know the quests |
| 17:07.33 | Kirkburn | My main is a warlock, so I've got no plans of rerolling =) |
| 17:08.02 | KiphereCE | I've got a 60 nelf druid on one sever I dispise. |
| 17:08.16 | KiphereCE | a 60 tauren druid on Laughing Skull which I refuse to even acknowledge as a server anymore |
| 17:08.34 | KiphereCE | a 60 tauren hunter on Detheroc which I just don't know anyone on because I transfered to play with soem folks that all quit playing. |
| 17:08.53 | KiphereCE | and a scattering of other characters, my rogue, the only one I'd play for fun rightnow got banned cause my friends son is an idiot. |
| 17:09.14 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 17:09.16 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 17:09.56 | Gnarfoz | and: you sustain multiple accounts? |
| 17:09.56 | KiphereCE | I alwayas have 2. |
| 17:10.01 | Gnarfoz | because I've never heard of character-based bans, yet ^^ |
| 17:10.01 | KiphereCE | I didnt list my wife's cahracters. |
| 17:10.08 | Tierrie | laughing skull is not even a server? |
| 17:10.22 | KiphereCE | I refuse to acknowledge it. |
| 17:10.25 | KiphereCE | it is a server I suppose. |
| 17:10.33 | KiphereCE | but yes, I have 2 accounts for myself (had) and 1 for my wife. |
| 17:10.48 | KiphereCE | my friends son was playing my rogue, got lippy with someone, they reported him. |
| 17:10.59 | Tierrie | haha |
| 17:11.10 | Tierrie | perma or temp? |
| 17:11.16 | zenzelezz | why did your friend's son have access to your rogue? |
| 17:11.21 | KiphereCE | apparently in his infinite adolescent wisdom when the <gm> tag showed up he assumed some one was playing with him |
| 17:11.29 | Tierrie | how old was he |
| 17:11.32 | KiphereCE | and he called the GM a racial slur |
| 17:11.36 | KiphereCE | 16. |
| 17:11.38 | Tierrie | i doubt he was stupid |
| 17:11.43 | Tierrie | i think he just didn't care since it wasn't his account |
| 17:11.50 | KiphereCE | no, he's actualy pretty stupid. |
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| 17:11.57 | KiphereCE | after he got kicked he called blizzard |
| 17:12.01 | KiphereCE | the ban was temp |
| 17:12.18 | Tierrie | what did your friend do as reperation? |
| 17:12.19 | KiphereCE | he tells the guy on the phone that it's nto his account and to ban HIS account instead so that the real owner doesnt get mad. |
| 17:12.30 | KiphereCE | the real owner being me. |
| 17:12.34 | Tierrie | oh good job dumbass |
| 17:12.40 | KiphereCE | which of course with that info blizzard perma bans the account. |
| 17:12.52 | KiphereCE | the 'friend' didnt do anything, he didnt even apologise. |
| 17:12.56 | Tierrie | what?! |
| 17:12.58 | KiphereCE | and friend is a very, very loose term. |
| 17:13.09 | zenzelezz | why did your friend's son have access to your rogue? |
| 17:13.17 | Tierrie | well i want to say that he's a jerk but i can't even imagine giving my account info to someone I barely know |
| 17:13.26 | KiphereCE | at the time we were all running around in the same guild |
| 17:13.30 | KiphereCE | the 'friend' was my boss :P |
| 17:13.44 | Tierrie | say you don't play wow |
| 17:13.47 | KiphereCE | I know them all in person. |
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| 17:14.07 | KiphereCE | I had his account info he had mine. |
| 17:14.15 | Gnarfoz | my account is my account, only time I've ever let someone else play my characters was with me present and I logged them in :\ |
| 17:14.17 | zenzelezz | I don't tell my family my account details, let alone others |
| 17:14.21 | Tierrie | time to call some GM racial slurs |
| 17:14.21 | KiphereCE | for convenience, we'd play each others stuff on raids and what not |
| 17:14.49 | KiphereCE | well, I have a few friends that I trust explicitely and they don't do silly shit like that. |
| 17:14.58 | KiphereCE | I didn't tell him he could let his kid play, he just did. |
| 17:15.01 | Tierrie | it only takes one idiot to fuck up the account permanently |
| 17:15.10 | KiphereCE | trust me, I'm aware :P |
| 17:15.21 | KiphereCE | The adult in the sitaution is the one I blame. |
| 17:15.29 | KiphereCE | I wouldnt have given the son the info |
| 17:16.01 | KiphereCE | Trust me, I'm not gonna be a doormat on this one :p |
| 17:16.03 | alcaras | ouch, that sucks KiphereCE |
| 17:16.07 | alcaras | what are you going to do? |
| 17:16.09 | KiphereCE | my first account was a regular edition game. |
| 17:16.11 | Tierrie | yourself? |
| 17:16.22 | alcaras | you don't really have any options regarding the account, do you? blizz is pretty clear about no sharing |
| 17:16.30 | KiphereCE | I won a CE from Allakhazam and gave this other guy my old account. |
| 17:16.49 | KiphereCE | his characters are on that :P |
| 17:16.58 | KiphereCE | which I still haev the CD keys for |
| 17:17.13 | alcaras | but your chars are gone forever, right? |
| 17:17.21 | alcaras | the ones the 16 yo screwed over with his genius? |
| 17:17.23 | KiphereCE | my rogue was the only character on the account that got banned. |
| 17:17.24 | Tierrie | sounds like Kip is going to "reclaim" his boss's account |
| 17:17.29 | Mikma | i would try to get my account back :P |
| 17:17.42 | KiphereCE | I tried, blizz said I shouldnt have shared it in the first place. |
| 17:17.54 | Tierrie | say it was hacked |
| 17:18.00 | KiphereCE | I'm gonna get the other account back though, it's got a warrior, a hunter, and a priest on it ;P |
| 17:18.07 | Tierrie | he was around when you logged on |
| 17:18.24 | Tierrie | try this story -- he was your friend, you showed him wow when they came over |
| 17:18.32 | Tierrie | and you typed out your password, the son saw it |
| 17:18.40 | Tierrie | and logged in himself when you weren't around |
| 17:18.41 | KiphereCE | I've tried different angles, I'm not pushing my luck given the fact that my primary account is on the same credit card info and I don't want them to push it and take that one too for 'investigation' |
| 17:19.05 | Tierrie | how did this angle not work? |
| 17:19.24 | KiphereCE | because they didnt believe me? |
| 17:19.34 | KiphereCE | I dunno, I told them I didn't give him the info and i don't know how he got it. |
| 17:19.57 | KiphereCE | Whatever he told them when eh called went on record and they're not backing down from it. |
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| 17:20.44 | KiphereCE | the rogue was the only character, and while he was well equiped I'm not going to risk putting my card in investigation to get it back and potentially lose 3 other 60's over it. |
| 17:21.18 | MentalPower|PC | can anyone recommend an AddOn manager (like LoadIt!) that works in WoW 2.0? |
| 17:21.21 | KiphereCE | I'll just reclaim my original account when the time is right and get what I lost with a little interest. I'd have just let it go if the father had apologized and at least offered to do something |
| 17:24.18 | Tierrie | is wow worth jeopardizing your job over? |
| 17:25.40 | KiphereCE | oh this guy 'was' my boss. |
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| 17:25.45 | KiphereCE | he's been fired since this all happened. |
| 17:25.53 | KiphereCE | not related. |
| 17:25.55 | KiphereCE | obviously ;P |
| 17:26.49 | KiphereCE | when we first met he seemed like a good guy, turns out he's a complete shit bag, cheats on his wife, tries to blackmail people, general ass all around. |
| 17:26.53 | KiphereCE | wish I'd known that before I came here :p |
| 17:27.21 | SB1-Laptop | There's a place to come into conversation. |
| 17:29.18 | KiphereCE | we were totally not talking about you |
| 17:29.43 | SB1-Laptop | :o |
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| 17:33.39 | KiphereCE | Kip need beer. |
| 17:36.10 | Kirkburn | The next Harry Potter book will be called: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows |
| 17:36.59 | foxlit | HARRY DIES~ |
| 17:37.11 | foxlit | (d'oh!) |
| 17:38.24 | TuX_BuBling | false |
| 17:38.35 | TuX_BuBling | harry won't die |
| 17:38.42 | TuX_BuBling | he's harry potter |
| 17:38.46 | foxlit | ookay, Voldemort is Luke's father. |
| 17:38.50 | TuX_BuBling | the master sorcerer |
| 17:38.52 | KiphereCE | goddamnit. |
| 17:39.00 | TuX_BuBling | he can't die |
| 17:39.05 | KiphereCE | coworker is back and eating loudly agian. |
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| 17:39.39 | KiphereCE | I cannot stand loud eating, he slurps drinks, chews with his mouth open, makes smacking and gluping noises CONSTANTLY. |
| 17:39.42 | KiphereCE | it turns my damn stomach. |
| 17:39.56 | TuX_BuBling | KiphereCE: tell him |
| 17:40.12 | TuX_BuBling | "hey dude cant'" you eat without doing those crappy noises??" |
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| 17:40.40 | kergoth | MentalPower|PC: mcp works well in 2.0 |
| 17:40.53 | TuX_BuBling | or start making some noises too |
| 17:40.56 | KiphereCE | It's complicated Tux. |
| 17:40.58 | TuX_BuBling | with your ass :) |
| 17:41.07 | KiphereCE | I'mtaking the passive aggressive approach and making my own noises. |
| 17:41.08 | TuX_BuBling | you know noises that have a bad smell :) |
| 17:41.11 | KiphereCE | mostly music that i know he can't stand. |
| 17:41.19 | TuX_BuBling | oh |
| 17:41.21 | KiphereCE | and I have two pencils that makes great drumsticks. |
| 17:41.27 | TuX_BuBling | lol |
| 17:41.31 | TuX_BuBling | i see |
| 17:41.40 | TuX_BuBling | little cowork war |
| 17:41.40 | [Liquidor] | 0,9 - 0,10 = ? |
| 17:41.42 | TuX_BuBling | ^^ |
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| 17:41.50 | KiphereCE | if he asks me to be quiet I'll tell im I'm only doing it to drown out the sound of his eating. |
| 17:41.54 | KiphereCE | then the point will be made. |
| 17:42.16 | Gnarfoz | [Liquidor]: still 0.8 ;) |
| 17:42.17 | TuX_BuBling | :) |
| 17:42.51 | TuX_BuBling | how you call, doing a bad smell with your ass? |
| 17:42.55 | TuX_BuBling | the word? |
| 17:43.17 | Gnarfoz | farting. |
| 17:43.18 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 17:43.20 | TuX_BuBling | ah yes |
| 17:43.25 | TuX_BuBling | farting ^^ |
| 17:43.30 | TuX_BuBling | i know a guy |
| 17:43.39 | TuX_BuBling | his boss, is allways farting |
| 17:43.57 | TuX_BuBling | but he farts just behind someone else desk |
| 17:44.07 | TuX_BuBling | discreet |
| 17:44.14 | TuX_BuBling | but smells :p |
| 17:44.31 | TuX_BuBling | he farts quietly and get back to his seat |
| 17:44.33 | TuX_BuBling | ^^ |
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| 17:45.49 | KiphereCE | Don't take offense to this Tux but you just said the funniest thing i've ever heard in my life. |
| 17:45.54 | KiphereCE | <TuX_BuBling> how you call, doing a bad smell with your ass? |
| 17:46.02 | JoshBork2 | lol |
| 17:46.05 | TuX_BuBling | lol |
| 17:46.06 | KiphereCE | I'm going to have that put on a tshirt. |
| 17:46.17 | VoidRaider | lol :P |
| 17:46.18 | TuX_BuBling | no offense |
| 17:46.23 | TuX_BuBling | but i you sell it |
| 17:46.28 | TuX_BuBling | give me some money :D |
| 17:46.38 | KiphereCE | hah will do. |
| 17:47.01 | TuX_BuBling | 30% for me should be nice ;) |
| 17:47.11 | KiphereCE | I'm tryin to get a friend of mine into WoW so he can write mods ;) |
| 17:47.20 | KiphereCE | if any of you play Eve you might know him, Grismar |
| 17:47.42 | TuX_BuBling | don't really like eve |
| 17:47.48 | KiphereCE | I don't either. |
| 17:47.58 | KiphereCE | which is why I'm tryin to get all my friends that play it to come back to WoW / start WoW. |
| 17:48.47 | TuX_BuBling | lol |
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| 17:49.11 | VoidRaider | Show them fantasy movies and then the Introduction movie of WoW, that should do :P |
| 17:49.38 | TuX_BuBling | uhuh |
| 17:50.33 | KiphereCE | hrm. I cant remember what email/secret question and shit I used on my original account that I'm tryin to get back now :p |
| 17:52.04 | TuX_BuBling | good luck ;) |
| 17:52.14 | TuX_BuBling | ok time to go |
| 17:52.20 | VoidRaider | haha, I usually ignore these fields too and put some random sequence of letters :P |
| 17:52.26 | TuX_BuBling | i wish you all a mery christmas! |
| 17:53.41 | Gnarfoz | KiphereCE: you don't actually need that data, IIRC. a friend of mine got his account back with his cd key and a copy of his ID or something like that |
| 17:54.49 | KiphereCE | I don't wanna be faxing shit to blizzard ;P |
| 17:54.51 | VoidRaider | yeah, but you have to call them, I changed my password and I gave them only my Key, ID, Account name and password :) |
| 17:54.56 | KiphereCE | if I can handle it automated I will. |
| 17:56.11 | KarlThePagan | Bits - ace-optional library frontend for bitlib -- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59328163&postId=593330044&sid=1#0 |
| 17:56.23 | VoidRaider | not sure mybe it was email and the password since they don't really ask for password but it was something like that :D |
| 17:56.37 | VoidRaider | and not* |
| 17:58.29 | KiphereCE | anyone know a way to access mail programs blocked by firewalls like Yahoo and what not ;p |
| 17:58.53 | KiphereCE | the idiot who's got the account now probably didnt change any contact info. |
| 17:59.05 | KiphereCE | which means if i can remember this I can just recover the account through the online dealy. |
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| 18:01.00 | Tuller | bleh, I can't win with actionbuttons apparently |
| 18:01.03 | VoidRaider | Access as in "illegal access" or ... ? :P |
| 18:01.54 | Gnarfoz | KiphereCE: if your firewall admins suck, probably by directly using an IP |
| 18:02.11 | KiphereCE | holy... |
| 18:02.12 | KiphereCE | shit... |
| 18:02.13 | Gnarfoz | like, go to dnsstuff.com and let it resolve the domain you are trying to use, then use the IP |
| 18:02.24 | KiphereCE | my coworker is actuly snoring |
| 18:02.36 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 18:02.44 | KiphereCE | that's fuckin awesome |
| 18:03.07 | KiphereCE | I'm gonna blow the dust off the cube wall at him, brb. |
| 18:03.34 | VoidRaider | So what symphony is he playing ? |
| 18:06.07 | KiphereCE | about the email thing, just tryin to get to an email site I'm not supposed to, was wondering if there was soem sort of webpage that would nest it for you. |
| 18:06.42 | zenzelezz | just 2470 more reputation \o/ |
| 18:07.12 | Gnarfoz | KiphereCE: try the way I said |
| 18:07.15 | Gnarfoz | could work ;) |
| 18:07.47 | Gnarfoz | but will of course still show up as you accessing that site (although by IP, depends on their logs using reverse dns or not) |
| 18:08.22 | zenzelezz | if that fails you could always try accessing it through a proxy |
| 18:09.53 | KiphereCE | well, the firewall guys are good ;P |
| 18:10.05 | zenzelezz | that's no reason to not try |
| 18:10.12 | KiphereCE | they even blocked the us.rd, ip address. |
| 18:10.33 | KiphereCE | can't even get to it via redirect heh. |
| 18:10.34 | KiphereCE | oh well. |
| 18:10.47 | KiphereCE | just one more reason for me to get myself a mobile browser device |
| 18:18.02 | YammYgirlcoding | MentalPower ! darling. does gatherer adds nodes on big map? |
| 18:18.16 | MentalPower|PC | not yet |
| 18:18.41 | YammYgirlcoding | aaaaaaaaaaaah that's was what I was missing : ( |
| 18:18.50 | YammYgirlcoding | but it will? |
| 18:23.18 | KarlThePagan | Iriel|Away, I have a question about your WoW forum post regarding Bits-1.0 |
| 18:23.18 | MentalPower|PC | YammYgirlcoding: yes, it will |
| 18:23.18 | YammYgirlcoding | MentalPower|PC gatherer is bugged. Now I can't see the yellow spots on minimap. If there is a node to pick, nothing shows on it place, not even the node icon |
| 18:23.43 | MentalPower|PC | erm... there is no way any AddOn can hide the yellow minimap blips |
| 18:24.10 | YammYgirlcoding | it did! was the only addon I added |
| 18:24.22 | YammYgirlcoding | lets see if it fixes when i disable it |
| 18:24.35 | MentalPower|PC | the game's own yellow blips? |
| 18:25.23 | YammYgirlcoding | ya! |
| 18:25.25 | YammYgirlcoding | gone! |
| 18:25.32 | Garoun|Loupana | placing my bets someone mined the node :P |
| 18:25.34 | YammYgirlcoding | i'm next to the node. and no more yellow dot |
| 18:25.41 | YammYgirlcoding | i see the node |
| 18:26.02 | Garoun|Loupana | and stupid question, your mining traker is active? :) |
| 18:26.14 | Tierrie|Work | KiphereCE: I'm kinda curiosu why your boss got fired |
| 18:26.21 | YammYgirlcoding | lol |
| 18:26.50 | Garoun|Loupana | lowest common denominator ftw! :) |
| 18:27.08 | Garoun|Loupana | you're welcome MP :P |
| 18:27.12 | Gnarfoz | use Cartographer + Cartographer_Herbalism instead of alpha version gatherer, imho ;-) |
| 18:27.12 | Kirkburn | Did you know: America is named after a welshman from Bristol? |
| 18:27.27 | Kirkburn | Bristol being where I happen to go to university :) |
| 18:27.54 | MentalPower|PC | YammYgirlcoding: nice :) |
| 18:28.02 | YammYgirlcoding | :D |
| 18:28.14 | MentalPower|PC | Garoun|Loupana: lol, thanks |
| 18:28.22 | Gnarfoz | Kirkburn: the continent? |
| 18:28.45 | Kirkburn | Gnarfoz, yes indeed |
| 18:28.56 | Gnarfoz | named by a german cartographer on one of the first maps to include the continent |
| 18:29.00 | Gnarfoz | named after Amerigo Vespucci |
| 18:29.01 | Kirkburn | It was not named after Amerigo |
| 18:29.04 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:29.09 | Gnarfoz | it was ;) |
| 18:29.15 | Kirkburn | Not true |
| 18:29.16 | YammYgirlcoding | does cartographer adds nodes on big map? the ones i've already seen? |
| 18:29.23 | Gnarfoz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America#Etymology |
| 18:29.36 | Gnarfoz | YammYgirlcoding: http://i12.tinypic.com/30agtqv.jpg <- yes, it does |
| 18:29.37 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 18:29.43 | YammYgirlcoding | yay! :D |
| 18:29.51 | Gnarfoz | although not those icons, as they are not yet in |
| 18:29.58 | Gnarfoz | (uses the game's own icons with black borders) |
| 18:30.10 | YammYgirlcoding | will gatherer read cartographer's data afterwards? |
| 18:30.14 | alcaras | Gnarfoz: i assume that's photoshopped and not ingame? :P |
| 18:30.22 | Gnarfoz | alcaras: that's screenshots of the game |
| 18:30.25 | Garoun|Loupana | you'll probably just end up staying with Cart once you use it :P |
| 18:30.30 | alcaras | Gnarfoz: all put together, though |
| 18:30.31 | Gnarfoz | multiple, copied together |
| 18:30.34 | alcaras | aye ok |
| 18:30.34 | JoshBork2 | wereHamster: ping |
| 18:30.58 | Gnarfoz | YammYgirlcoding: don't know, depends on gatherer |
| 18:31.17 | Kirkburn | Gnarfoz, the problem there is, places are never named after a persons first name |
| 18:31.26 | Gnarfoz | 'never'? |
| 18:31.27 | Gnarfoz | says who |
| 18:32.48 | Kirkburn | Well, "generally" then :P |
| 18:32.49 | Kirkburn | Anyway, just because it is widely accepted doesn't make it true ;) |
| 18:32.49 | Gnarfoz | so? the other theory is also just 'not as widely accepted' |
| 18:32.49 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:32.49 | Kirkburn | I know, the problem is perception, once a myth starts, it's hard to stop |
| 18:32.52 | alcaras | America was named after Vespucci |
| 18:32.54 | Kirkburn | e.g. that Thomas Crapper invented the flush toilet. He didn't. |
| 18:33.21 | Kirkburn | alcaras, there's several reason for Richard Ameryk being the more likely guy |
| 18:34.29 | alcaras | Kirkburn: perhaps, but they taught me in elementary school that it was vespucci :p |
| 18:34.35 | Kirkburn | Ah, futher info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas#Naming_of_America |
| 18:34.37 | alcaras | so that must be truth right, the government said so? :P |
| 18:34.41 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 18:34.48 | Gnarfoz | the steam engine was also not invented by James Watt |
| 18:34.49 | zenzelezz | well, they also used mercury for medicine |
| 18:34.52 | Gnarfoz | talking about myths |
| 18:36.08 | wereHamster | JoshBork2, pong |
| 18:37.17 | Kirkburn | Aha: "However, as Dr. Basil Cottle (Author, Dictionary of Surnames, 1967) points out, new countries or continents are never named after a person's first name, always after their second name" |
| 18:38.06 | zenzelezz | and how is this Cottle so sure about that? |
| 18:38.38 | Kirkburn | What Edison invention do English speakers use every day? |
| 18:38.49 | zenzelezz | several |
| 18:38.57 | Kirkburn | "Hello" |
| 18:40.13 | Kirkburn | Why colour was the sky in ancient Greece? |
| 18:40.16 | Kirkburn | *What |
| 18:40.28 | Gnarfoz | huh? teal I guess |
| 18:40.30 | Kalroth | Pink! |
| 18:40.38 | Kirkburn | Bronze |
| 18:40.40 | Gnarfoz | actually the sky has no color whatsoever |
| 18:40.48 | Kirkburn | There is no word for blue in ancient greek. |
| 18:40.51 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 18:40.54 | Gnarfoz | it's not blue either! |
| 18:40.55 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 18:40.58 | Gnarfoz | it's transparent |
| 18:41.09 | Kirkburn | And so's the sea, I bet |
| 18:41.17 | zenzelezz | I'm sure you're trying to make some point Kirk... but I fail to see any logic in it |
| 18:41.23 | Gnarfoz | it is, isn't it ;) |
| 18:41.25 | alcaras | the sea is green |
| 18:41.42 | Kirkburn | Depends on the sea ;) |
| 18:41.43 | zenzelezz | the sea doesn't have one unique color |
| 18:41.48 | Kirkburn | How did Roman Emperors order the death of a gladiator? |
| 18:41.56 | Tierrie|Work | thumbs up! |
| 18:42.01 | Kirkburn | Tierrie wins! |
| 18:42.15 | Gnarfoz | can he also explain why? |
| 18:42.16 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 18:42.19 | Tierrie|Work | gladiator returns salute with middle finger up\ |
| 18:42.23 | alcaras | rofl |
| 18:42.29 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm i went see cartographer. i hated it, too complicated. i just wanted the simple icons on big map =] |
| 18:42.47 | Kirkburn | A thumb tucked into a closed fist meant swords sheathed. Thumb up = sword out! |
| 18:42.55 | Kirkburn | There was no thumbs down. |
| 18:42.58 | alcaras | ah |
| 18:43.20 | Kirkburn | Where do most tigers live now? |
| 18:43.40 | alcaras | zoos? |
| 18:43.44 | Kirkburn | Cause I'm here ;) |
| 18:43.59 | Kirkburn | The USA, but not all in zoos |
| 18:44.03 | zenzelezz | so? You're always here, but usually we're not listening to this :-p |
| 18:44.05 | Tierrie|Work | borneo |
| 18:44.21 | Tierrie|Work | thundera! |
| 18:44.29 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:44.39 | zenzelezz | they live with Thunderaan? |
| 18:44.45 | Tierrie|Work | yes |
| 18:44.47 | alcaras | there are tigers in the wild in the US? |
| 18:44.50 | Tierrie|Work | with the berberbills |
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| 18:44.59 | zenzelezz | alcaras: not wild, but as pets |
| 18:44.59 | alcaras | tigers are either in the wild, or in a zoo, so... |
| 18:45.12 | Tierrie|Work | or mauling people in their urban neighbourhoods |
| 18:45.14 | alcaras | people have tigers as pets? wow, never heard of that |
| 18:45.19 | Gnarfoz | they do |
| 18:45.26 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 18:45.36 | Kirkburn | In fact, in many US states there are no licensing laws about it |
| 18:45.41 | Gnarfoz | < watching a karazhan vid |
| 18:45.54 | Tierrie|Work | sucks that you can't have a ferret but can have a tiger |
| 18:46.01 | Tierrie|Work | though i doubt that thing about a tiger is true in all states |
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| 18:46.15 | Gnarfoz | ugh. frapser used a german client |
| 18:46.15 | Tierrie|Work | this is fun trivia |
| 18:46.16 | Tierrie|Work | more! |
| 18:46.28 | Kirkburn | Ooh, here's one: How do dogs mate? |
| 18:46.35 | alcaras | sex? |
| 18:46.54 | Tierrie|Work | doggy style |
| 18:46.56 | Tierrie|Work | hahaa |
| 18:47.02 | Kirkburn | For the less enlightened of us then ... How do dogs have the sex? |
| 18:47.04 | Tierrie|Work | ok :( i don't understand the question |
| 18:47.11 | Tierrie|Work | doggy style! |
| 18:47.14 | Tierrie|Work | final answer |
| 18:47.16 | Kirkburn | Heh, and no :) |
| 18:47.26 | Kirkburn | Back to back |
| 18:47.30 | Tierrie|Work | 69? |
| 18:47.34 | alcaras | tail to tail |
| 18:47.38 | Kirkburn | Now that would be odd to watch |
| 18:47.47 | Tierrie|Work | haha jk jk |
| 18:48.56 | Kirkburn | What was the first invention to break the sound barrier? |
| 18:49.24 | Tierrie|Work | tricky |
| 18:49.37 | zenzelezz | some sort of projectile most likely |
| 18:49.52 | Tierrie|Work | whip? |
| 18:49.57 | Gnarfoz | whip it is |
| 18:49.57 | Kirkburn | Nice work! |
| 18:50.01 | Gnarfoz | that's where the crack comes from |
| 18:50.02 | Tierrie|Work | FUCK YEAH! |
| 18:50.12 | Tierrie|Work | i had to think :( |
| 18:51.13 | Kaso | is my raid10 always everyone else's raid10 ? |
| 18:51.13 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:51.21 | Kaso | god damnit |
| 18:51.23 | zenzelezz | at least I don't think so... |
| 18:51.30 | foxlit | why, Kaso? |
| 18:51.40 | zenzelezz | unless the raid IDs don't correspond to the position on the raid tab |
| 18:51.57 | Kaso | i wrote my addon to send info over Raid channel pertaining to raid IDs |
| 18:52.06 | Kaso | i simple sent a 40 length comma seperated list |
| 18:52.09 | foxlit | Send based on UnitName() instead? |
| 18:52.19 | Kaso | but now that raidIDs are the same ive gotta send names |
| 18:52.20 | foxlit | ah, longer. |
| 18:52.31 | Kirkburn | What animal are the Canary Islands named after? |
| 18:52.42 | foxlit | canaries? |
| 18:53.01 | Kirkburn | Nope, Canary birds are named after the island :P |
| 18:53.15 | Tierrie|Work | the discoverer? |
| 18:53.24 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 18:53.34 | Tierrie|Work | oh animals hah! |
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| 18:53.48 | Tierrie|Work | uhm dogs? |
| 18:53.50 | Tierrie|Work | canines? |
| 18:53.50 | Kirkburn | I'm sure the discoverer was an animal too :P |
| 18:53.53 | Kirkburn | Yes indeed, dogs |
| 18:53.57 | VII|Beherit | hi there |
| 18:53.57 | Tierrie|Work | YES! |
| 18:54.02 | VII|Beherit | could need some help |
| 18:54.10 | Kirkburn | hullo |
| 18:54.25 | VII|Beherit | itemrack events |
| 18:54.36 | VII|Beherit | i wanna switch my shoes on shaman ghostwolf |
| 18:54.40 | VII|Beherit | anyone knows how? |
| 18:54.47 | VII|Beherit | i tried and tried |
| 18:54.53 | VII|Beherit | :( |
| 18:54.57 | Tierrie|Work | btw Kirk your question kind of gave it away |
| 18:55.21 | Tierrie|Work | you asked what "animals" Canary Island was named after |
| 18:55.31 | Tierrie|Work | so it was either named after a native animal or one on the ship it came on |
| 18:55.39 | Tierrie|Work | and if it was the ship it was either a human a horse or a dog |
| 18:55.48 | zenzelezz | or a cat, or a rat |
| 18:55.49 | Tierrie|Work | and humans don't name things after horses |
| 18:55.53 | Tierrie|Work | or cats or rats |
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| 18:56.13 | zenzelezz | bold claim |
| 18:56.13 | Tierrie|Work | and iirc there's no unique animal on canary isle |
| 18:56.19 | Tierrie|Work | hah |
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| 19:05.50 | vinz | hi ! |
| 19:06.19 | Tierrie|Work | boom |
| 19:06.24 | Tierrie|Work | so more quizzies |
| 19:08.53 | foxlit | Hm. Since when can you interact with questgivers as a ghost? |
| 19:11.22 | nevcairiel | only with some special ones |
| 19:11.23 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 19:11.25 | SB1-Laptop | Depends on the questgiver |
| 19:11.31 | SB1-Laptop | ie, BRD key |
| 19:11.52 | foxlit | Riftwalker too |
| 19:12.04 | foxlit | [mc attunement quest] |
| 19:12.31 | Tierrie|Work | another dude in tanaris |
| 19:12.33 | foxlit | Just thought it looked strange |
| 19:12.51 | Tierrie|Work | in fact afaik there's two quest you can only do while dead |
| 19:12.52 | SB1-Laptop | I did a double-take the first time I saw the guy in BRD |
| 19:13.16 | SB1-Laptop | Err, outside of BRD |
| 19:13.35 | Kirov | Guy in the center of BRM, guy north of the graveyard in Tanaris |
| 19:14.31 | foxlit | Those are obviously intended to be spoke to while dead, though. |
| 19:14.34 | Kirov | There's rumored to be 7 more "dead only" quests hidden in the game someplace that people haven't found, sometimes in reference to the Ashbringer quest. |
| 19:14.45 | foxlit | It's weird that the blood elf is in the same group |
| 19:15.03 | Kirov | (more or less proven to be hoaxes) |
| 19:19.43 | Gnarfoz | i'd go for 'more proven' because there is no further ashbringer quest yet ^^ |
| 19:20.13 | Kirkburn | How can I make purl join #wowwiki? |
| 19:20.25 | Cairenn|afk | ~timriker |
| 19:20.27 | purl | hmm... timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 19:21.03 | Kirkburn | I have to email him? |
| 19:21.17 | foxlit | purl, join #wowwiki |
| 19:21.20 | MentalPower|PC | or PM, if he's online |
| 19:21.21 | Cairenn|afk | get in touch with him, yes |
| 19:21.27 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.30 | Kirkburn | Okay, thanks :) |
| 19:22.05 | Kirkburn | foxlit, think I didn't try that? ;) |
| 19:22.13 | foxlit | Who knows? |
| 19:22.53 | Kirkburn | uuuh |
| 19:22.55 | Kirkburn | rawr |
| 19:23.01 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 19:23.18 | Kirkburn | Dat's better :) |
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| 19:27.55 | KiphereCE | backz |
| 19:30.22 | Kirkburn | Btw, just a general notice - if you've not found out already, the WoWWiki has it's own IRC channel these days - #wowwiki :) |
| 19:32.49 | KiphereCE | but... |
| 19:32.53 | KiphereCE | is it as cool as this one? |
| 19:33.02 | Cairenn|afk | nowai! |
| 19:33.06 | Kirkburn | Nothing is as cool as this one .... /me cowers from Cairenn|afk |
| 19:33.12 | KiphereCE | keke |
| 19:33.26 | Kirkburn | Wait, why am I cowering? |
| 19:33.28 | KiphereCE | I'll go there too, somehwere else for me to annoy errr talk to folks. |
| 19:36.28 | Tierrie|Work | this is kewl! |
| 19:37.05 | foxlit | [Rubidium Hammer]. I wonder what happens if you swim with this thing? |
| 19:37.14 | Tierrie|Work | problem with bitchx is multiple channels confuses the hell out of you |
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| 19:39.28 | KiphereCE | using relative size will make an object the same size in relation to the UI no matter what resolution is run right? |
| 19:40.04 | Kirov | well |
| 19:40.21 | Kirov | I guess yes |
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| 19:44.13 | Tierrie|Work | is it /Interfaces/AddOns/ or /Interface/AddOns/ or /Interfaces/AddOn/? |
| 19:44.55 | KiphereCE | interface\addons\ |
| 19:45.06 | foxlit | or interface/addons/ |
| 19:45.19 | KiphereCE | jesus christ, he's eating again. |
| 19:47.02 | KiphereCE | woo its sunflower seeds this time. *CRACK* *slurp slurp* *SPIT* *CRACK* *slurp chew slurp* *SPIT* |
| 19:47.31 | vinz | did somebody already play with the CHAT_MSG_LOOT event ? |
| 19:47.51 | Tierrie|Work | your cubbie neighbour? |
| 19:48.02 | vinz | cubbie ? |
| 19:49.49 | Kirkburn | Interface/AddOns/ |
| 19:50.03 | Kirkburn | It should have a capital O, tbh |
| 19:50.13 | Gryphen | Interface\AddOns\ |
| 19:50.17 | Kirkburn | dammit |
| 19:50.20 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
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| 19:54.50 | KiphereCE | Tierriee|Work: Yes. |
| 19:55.43 | KiphereCE | he is the loudest eater I've ever encountered and a constant source of irratation to me. What makes it worse is 'how' he does it. When he eats sunflower seeds he makes so much noise its unbelievable, and he spits the shells into a little plastic cup and shakes it constantly. |
| 19:55.53 | KiphereCE | so its accented by this constant wet clicking rattle noise |
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| 19:58.27 | Tierrie|Work | fart loudly |
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| 20:03.29 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 | In case of flood, proceed uphill. In case of flash flood, proceed uphill quickly. |
| 20:03.35 | sylvanaar | if you anchor LEFT how are your y coordinates known |
| 20:03.35 | Cairenn | purl, wb |
| 20:03.36 | purl | thx |
| 20:04.09 | foxlit | midpoints, sylv |
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| 20:04.18 | Hatsuki | Teomyr: ragnaros doesnt drop priest t2. |
| 20:04.32 | MentalPower|PC | ya he does |
| 20:04.35 | MentalPower|PC | pants |
| 20:04.37 | Tierrie|Work | pants |
| 20:04.40 | kremonte | i thought he dropped every class' t2 pants |
| 20:04.42 | Kirkburn | From 3 feet away the male coquis can make a sound of up to 95 decibels :) |
| 20:04.47 | Hatsuki | over 70 ragnaros kills, 2 priest pants -.- |
| 20:04.50 | Kirkburn | (coquis being a type of frog) |
| 20:04.51 | Tain | I just want a decent pair of pants. |
| 20:04.54 | kremonte | Hatsuki: you have no luck :E |
| 20:04.55 | TheStig | FYI for some reason 90% of all the drops lately have been shaman for alliance and paladin for horde |
| 20:05.01 | kremonte | rofl |
| 20:05.04 | Tierrie|Work | Kirkburn: i think you're a fountain of info that no one woudl ever need to know |
| 20:05.04 | MentalPower|PC | Kirkburn: we have those here |
| 20:05.13 | TheStig | bbiam reboot |
| 20:05.13 | KiphereCE | Kirkburn: Thanks for clearing that up, I thought it was that little area between your ya know and your ... ya know. |
| 20:05.13 | kremonte | so anyone mind helping me with some string.matching? :Q |
| 20:05.22 | Tierrie|Work | i love string matching |
| 20:05.28 | Kirkburn | These specific ones are from Puerto Rico |
| 20:05.28 | kremonte | how do i match more than 1 result |
| 20:05.34 | Kirkburn | KiphereCE, lol |
| 20:05.45 | Tierrie|Work | more brackets |
| 20:05.46 | MentalPower|PC | Kirkburn: yup, same ones |
| 20:05.48 | Kirkburn | I love myth-busting :) |
| 20:05.54 | alcaras | _, _, one, two = string.find("This is a match of (%d) and (%d)") |
| 20:06.00 | Kirkburn | MentalPower|PC, where are you? |
| 20:06.05 | kremonte | not explicit |
| 20:06.15 | Tain | If you don't know how many results you can loop. |
| 20:06.25 | kremonte | string.gsub(arg1, "|c.-(item.-)|h", link_localize("%1")); |
| 20:06.28 | MentalPower|PC | Kirkburn: GeoLoc my IP |
| 20:06.32 | kremonte | i want to match all strings, so i just loop it till its nil? |
| 20:06.48 | kremonte | boo that's no fun |
| 20:07.12 | foxlit | for capture1, capture2, capture3 in string.gmatch("String","pattern") do |
| 20:07.24 | kremonte | yea, i don't know how many results i'm dealing with |
| 20:07.27 | Tain | I forget excatly, it's in the PiL specifically, I remember using it. |
| 20:07.29 | kremonte | (localizing all links on the fly) |
| 20:08.06 | kremonte | hmm |
| 20:08.28 | kremonte | Tain: any idea if it's on a deeper page of PiL? i can't find anyfing on PatternsTutorial |
| 20:09.19 | foxlit | kremonte: think you mean |
| 20:09.23 | foxlit | string.gsub(arg1, "|c.-(item.-)|h", link_localize); |
| 20:09.38 | kremonte | i'm running a function on all results, link_localize is a function |
| 20:09.48 | kremonte | how could i localize links on the fly by using an explicit variable :P |
| 20:09.51 | Tierrie|Work | what's that first _, and _ for alcaras? |
| 20:10.01 | foxlit | position, length |
| 20:10.07 | foxlit | or maybe start, end |
| 20:10.07 | kremonte | that's stirng.find |
| 20:10.21 | Tierrie|Work | oh nifty i didn't know that was the syntax of strng.find |
| 20:10.21 | kremonte | i'm using string.match for test |
| 20:10.26 | kremonte | hm wait |
| 20:10.30 | kremonte | i'm only using match for tests |
| 20:10.34 | kremonte | i want to do it in gsub >< |
| 20:10.36 | Kirkburn | MentalPower I'm failing at that, but I vaguely recall you saying where you were previously :) |
| 20:10.41 | foxlit | Go for |
| 20:10.44 | foxlit | string.gsub(arg1, "|c.-(item.-)|h", link_localize); |
| 20:10.57 | foxlit | link_localize would be the function, captures would get passes as agruments |
| 20:11.07 | MentalPower|PC | --/whois MentalPower |
| 20:11.07 | foxlit | You just need a proper pattern? |
| 20:11.09 | MentalPower|PC | http://www.ip2location.com/demo.aspx |
| 20:11.19 | kremonte | so it'd be link_localize("%1"[, %2]) etc? |
| 20:11.24 | foxlit | No. |
| 20:11.27 | kremonte | the pattern works fine |
| 20:11.33 | kremonte | i mean, the variables that get passed to the function |
| 20:11.41 | foxlit | You just provide the reference to a function, lua calls it with captures as parameters by itself. |
| 20:11.54 | kremonte | oh, so it checks whether or not its a function or a string? |
| 20:12.02 | foxlit | Yes |
| 20:12.07 | kremonte | ohhh, nice to know |
| 20:12.10 | kremonte | thanks :E |
| 20:12.27 | kremonte | now, would link_localize get called for every result, or would it pass all of the returns at once? |
| 20:12.35 | foxlit | for every occurance |
| 20:12.39 | Kirkburn | MentalPower the other website I tried didn't like the IP :/ |
| 20:12.40 | kremonte | kickass |
| 20:12.41 | kremonte | <3 |
| 20:12.56 | MentalPower|PC | Kirkburn: hehe |
| 20:13.03 | Kirkburn | So, I can see why you'd know those frogs then :) |
| 20:14.05 | kremonte | hm, now's there any way to get the information on a currently visible ItemRefTooltip without scanning it? |
| 20:14.47 | foxlit | look at the returns from GetItemInfo, but you provavly have to scan the tooltip for stats |
| 20:15.21 | phyber | anyone know the names of the boxes that the items are in in the inspection frame? I'd check wdn.wowi but it's down :) |
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| 20:15.22 | kremonte | ohhhhh right, GetItemInfo works with suffixes now |
| 20:15.23 | kremonte | wooh |
| 20:15.28 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:15.35 | kremonte | i keep thinking it doesn't >< |
| 20:15.54 | kremonte | oh crap, that's not my problem. i can't get the item string from ItemRefTooltip |
| 20:17.08 | foxlit | You're trying to localize all item links to client locale? |
| 20:17.33 | kremonte | yes |
| 20:18.04 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 20:18.17 | kremonte | i need to work through SetItemRef, because GetItemInfo won't return items not in cache, and the only way i know of is to SetItemRef() it, so then i can run GetItemInfo |
| 20:18.18 | phreaky | Anyone knows if there is an addon that u can add words to ignore whispers that include them? For example ignore http or www to ignore whole whispers that include that? |
| 20:18.23 | KiphereCE | I'm so close to being done. |
| 20:18.34 | kremonte | but then whenever people link items not in my cache, if i'm looking at a link it'll close, and that's an assload of inconvenience |
| 20:19.10 | foxlit | Use another tooltip? |
| 20:19.23 | kremonte | is there a way to get SetItemRef to go to another tooltip? |
| 20:19.42 | kremonte | i can't find anything about it on the wowwiki page >< |
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| 20:20.30 | kremonte | guess i'll just hook SetItemRef and have it save the last link sent to it heh |
| 20:20.37 | KiphereCE | can you even have "another tooltip"? |
| 20:20.38 | kremonte | complex solutions to simple problems yay |
| 20:20.56 | KiphereCE | I thought it was a single instance type thing. |
| 20:21.01 | kremonte | <GameTooltip inherits="ItemRefTooltip"> no? |
| 20:21.16 | KiphereCE | ok, I misunderstood I think. |
| 20:21.41 | foxlit | Nah, just GameTooltipTemplate |
| 20:22.10 | foxlit | Tooltip:SetHyperlink(link); |
| 20:24.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:24.59 | kremonte | hm, got attempt to concat a nil value when i tried to SetHyperlink... boo, i dont want to make an XML ;( |
| 20:25.02 | kremonte | 'lo |
| 20:25.02 | ckknight | I have a new mac |
| 20:25.04 | ckknight | it's shiny. |
| 20:25.15 | kremonte | macs are right click impaired |
| 20:25.49 | ckknight | kremonte: don't know what you're smoking, I can right-click |
| 20:25.51 | foxlit | Not anymore, I thought? |
| 20:26.07 | kremonte | foxlit: any problems with this? testTT = CreateFrame("GameTooltip", nil, UIParent, "GameTooltipTemplate"); testTT:SetHyperlink("item:1238:0:0:0:0:0:0:0") |
| 20:26.32 | kremonte | dunno, use macs in school and i always get confused between control clicking, using alt instead of ctrl, no right click... all that jibberjabber |
| 20:27.56 | foxlit | I can guess. Give me a sec to check |
| 20:27.58 | kremonte | now i'm getting a concat 'money' error, wtf |
| 20:28.50 | foxlit | You need to name the frame tooltip frame or get an error with that |
| 20:29.41 | Kirkburn | This known? 2.0.3 PTR up: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59665995&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 20:29.47 | kremonte | hm, no error but i see nothing D; |
| 20:34.16 | kremonte | SetOwner, ooohhh |
| 20:34.32 | YammYgirlcoding | :( miss mapnotes gatherer :( |
| 20:35.25 | ckknight | YammYgirlcoding: my recommendation is to use Cartographer |
| 20:35.52 | YammYgirlcoding | awn its not the same :( |
| 20:39.13 | MentalPower|PC | ~seen Mikk |
| 20:39.32 | purl | mikk is currently on #wowwiki, last said: 'oh and find out what tard is copy&pasting code into the ace SVN and spank their fingers :>'. |
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| 20:53.20 | Teomyr | "Raaaar!!! Me smash Grace of Air Totem III!" |
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| 20:55.55 | KiphereCE | heh |
| 20:56.03 | KiphereCE | my company just went to a tobacco free workplace. |
| 20:56.10 | KiphereCE | I quit smoking 2 years ago, now I giggle. |
| 20:58.28 | KiphereCE | rofl the 'Union' out here is fighting the smoking policy. |
| 20:58.55 | KiphereCE | headin home, BAI |
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| 21:12.13 | Kirkburn | Btw, MS have extended Xbox 360 warranties from 90 days to 1 year, and it's retroactive :) |
| 21:12.30 | Kirkburn | I don't have an Xbox, but I still find it cool :P |
| 21:13.45 | MentalPower|PC | nice |
| 21:14.02 | MentalPower|PC | hmm... my friend is gonna be pissed |
| 21:14.20 | MentalPower|PC | he had to buy another HD, cause his stopped working |
| 21:14.33 | MentalPower|PC | (he got his 360 in January) |
| 21:14.40 | foxlit | It's against faulty manufacturing, anyway. |
| 21:15.38 | Kirkburn | He didn't get it repaired? |
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| 21:22.38 | foxlit | What's the pvp icon frame name? |
| 21:22.44 | foxlit | (one at minimap) |
| 21:24.34 | MentalPower|PC | Kirkburn: out of warrantly |
| 21:24.49 | MentalPower|PC | s/warrantly/warranty/ |
| 21:25.07 | MentalPower|PC | hence the pissed part |
| 21:25.16 | Kirkburn | Ah |
| 21:26.45 | foxlit | Hm, this is interesting. |
| 21:26.54 | foxlit | I'm not on the AB scoreboard. |
| 21:26.57 | Hatsuki | here seller is forced by law to cover defects within "normal operating time" |
| 21:27.15 | foxlit | And there are 15 other alliance players on it |
| 21:27.17 | Hatsuki | electronics is usually 3-5 years |
| 21:27.25 | foxlit | Did that mean 16v15? |
| 21:27.52 | foxlit | And now I can't leave the battleground. |
| 21:28.00 | foxlit | Because the game refuses to believe I'm even in one :/ |
| 21:28.21 | Kirkburn | foxlit, lol |
| 21:28.49 | foxlit | Meh, I knew that AV port not working was dodgy |
| 21:29.30 | foxlit | Ooh, pretty new GM help UI |
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| 21:32.11 | Kirov | hmm... shouldn't it be possible to pack 127 bools in to a single value using bitlib? |
| 21:32.34 | foxlit | 127 bits? |
| 21:32.34 | Kirov | not just 53 |
| 21:32.34 | zenzelezz | single value? |
| 21:32.45 | foxlit | 8*4 is the standard longint |
| 21:33.16 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.36 | Kirov | hmm.. I guess 128 bools |
| 21:33.42 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 21:33.43 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:33.55 | Kirov | oh, nm |
| 21:33.59 | Kirov | me dumb |
| 21:34.27 | foxlit | ALT+F4 later, and I'm still stunned in AB |
| 21:34.40 | MentalPower|PC | Kirov: WoW BitLib is newtered and only does 32-bit transformations |
| 21:35.06 | Kirov | MentalPower|PC - yeah |
| 21:36.34 | Kirov | Anyone else see the wow forums being a little funky? |
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| 21:40.27 | Barbanus | cladhaire, in Clique do you plan on re-implementing the feature you had before where it would res a dead unit if you tried to cast a spell on it, and you were OOC? Is this even possible now in 2.0? |
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| 21:44.33 | sbu | Kirkburn: WTF - 90d warranty? |
| 21:44.50 | Kirkburn | sbu? |
| 21:45.00 | sbu | xbox |
| 21:45.06 | Kirkburn | The 360 started off with a standard 90 day warranty |
| 21:45.17 | Kirkburn | They just extended it retroactively to 1 year |
| 21:45.49 | Kirkburn | So anyone who bought their 360 within the last year are now covered and can reclaim on it :) |
| 21:45.55 | sbu | hmyep |
| 21:47.36 | Kirov | awesome - http://www.maximonline.com/slideshows/videos/kungfu.aspx?film=1 |
| 21:49.01 | zenzelezz | this grammar makes me QQ inside.... "[...] whispers: Do u want to join [...] we are a good pvp guild so do u want to join its a guild for all lvls wanna join???" |
| 21:49.20 | Barbanus | ogh |
| 21:49.21 | Barbanus | lol |
| 21:49.29 | Barbanus | ugh* too |
| 21:51.54 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, well zenzelezz well do ya do ya wanna do ya well zenzelezz? |
| 21:52.13 | Kirov | we pvp good |
| 21:53.37 | foxlit | slay many a horde |
| 21:54.19 | seebs | Zenz, that was horrible. |
| 21:54.30 | seebs | Please tag future grammatical things like that "NSFE" (Not Safe For Editors). Thank you. |
| 21:54.48 | foxlit | http://www.sugarjar.com/media/44041/ |
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| 22:20.16 | Kirov | zomg ista kafi! |
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| 22:31.13 | Kirkburn | *sigh* It depresses me when ignorant bloggers go on about the "2.0 addon apocalypse" |
| 22:31.31 | amro | y2k ZOMG! |
| 22:31.35 | axxo | first mistake: |
| 22:31.37 | axxo | reading blogs |
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| 22:32.20 | Kirkburn | Well, I mean, if they're going to work for WoW Insider (Joystiq), it'd be good to talk to some addon authors before spouting their crap |
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| 22:36.59 | Barbanus | heh |
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| 22:40.12 | foxlit | Hm, there's just one problem with the lfg ui |
| 22:40.30 | foxlit | Outdoor raid bosses/quests |
| 22:41.02 | axxo | thats not the only problem |
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| 22:42.57 | foxlit | Did something change about the detect invisibility spell in 2.0? |
| 22:43.44 | foxlit | People are whining that my texture-based detection fails |
| 22:44.26 | nevcairiel | the UnitBuff function changed |
| 22:44.29 | nevcairiel | if you used that |
| 22:44.29 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:45.01 | foxlit | Nah, I had a clever enumerate spellbook routine. |
| 22:45.20 | foxlit | Patched for UnitBuff anyway, everything but invisibility detection seems to work |
| 22:46.34 | axxo | went from 3spells to 1 |
| 22:47.15 | foxlit | New icon? |
| 22:47.25 | axxo | dunno |
| 22:47.37 | Tain | Oh good, my account wasn't one of the 105k banned. |
| 22:47.44 | amro | for? |
| 22:48.34 | Tain | Oh various and sundry things. |
| 22:49.25 | phreaky | http://pics.obra.se/84959_otakon20051526ch.jpg |
| 22:50.48 | foxlit | What horror. |
| 22:51.00 | amro | lol |
| 22:51.13 | amro | where did you find that? |
| 22:51.17 | amro | wait, i don't want to know |
| 22:52.50 | Tuller | bleh did another test of sage after wiping my wtf folder, yet no error |
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| 22:55.05 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: only one spell now, and that spell has the icon of detect invisibility, IIRC |
| 22:55.30 | Gnarfoz | or was it lesser? definitely not greater, though, that one was distinctively greener |
| 22:58.30 | Tierrie|Work | would be nice to post "The WoW Mod Community thinks you're a dumbass" |
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| 23:00.47 | Teomyr | ~seen Vallerius |
| 23:00.58 | purl | vallerius <n=val@142-165-139-230.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 15h 25m 6s ago, saying: 'can anyone think of anything that might have changed with 2.0 to cause my OnEnter handlers to stop firing?'. |
| 23:01.34 | kremonte | my tooltip isn't working :-( |
| 23:02.31 | foxlit | What's wrong with it? |
| 23:02.52 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: thanks, I'll look it up with a level 1 lock |
| 23:03.07 | foxlit | less textures = joy! |
| 23:03.10 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 23:03.23 | Tierrie|Work | texturizations! |
| 23:03.31 | kremonte | foxlit: trying to use SetHyperlink as you suggested, but even when i do NumLines returns 0 |
| 23:03.45 | foxlit | You're sure it works instantly? |
| 23:04.01 | kremonte | huh? |
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| 23:04.24 | foxlit | From the point when you do :SetHyperlink() |
| 23:04.24 | kremonte | i copy/pasted the code from wowwiki, considering i dunno anything about tooltips |
| 23:04.31 | kremonte | then i made a macro with |
| 23:04.37 | kremonte | ClearLines() SetHyperlink() Show() |
| 23:04.53 | kremonte | numlines still returns 0 tho |
| 23:05.35 | foxlit | What if you call numlines afterwards, from chat? |
| 23:05.49 | kremonte | 0 |
| 23:05.54 | MentalPower|PC | SetHyperlink takes a while if the item is not in the game's cache files |
| 23:06.08 | kremonte | MentalPower: i know the item is in the cache |
| 23:06.26 | MentalPower|PC | how are you creating the tooltip? |
| 23:06.31 | kremonte | XML file |
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| 23:06.41 | MentalPower|PC | can you pastey said file? |
| 23:06.52 | foxlit | Wait |
| 23:06.53 | kremonte | yea, just hopped for the link :P |
| 23:06.55 | foxlit | Anchored the tooltip to anything? |
| 23:06.58 | foxlit | Tooltip:SetOwner()? |
| 23:07.02 | MentalPower|PC | ah yes |
| 23:07.07 | kremonte | yes |
| 23:07.07 | MentalPower|PC | forgot that |
| 23:07.24 | kremonte | http://wowi.pastey.net/3906 |
| 23:07.39 | MentalPower|PC | ClearLines(), SetOwner(), SetHyperlink(), NumLines() |
| 23:08.03 | kremonte | i have SetOwner run OnLoad, the wiki explicitly says if i do that, i dont need to SetOwner every time :Q |
| 23:08.16 | foxlit | Yes, that should be okay |
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| 23:08.57 | MentalPower|PC | well, it "should" be ok, but personal experience tells me otherwhise |
| 23:09.07 | foxlit | You anchor it to itself? |
| 23:09.28 | MentalPower|PC | me? yes |
| 23:09.44 | MentalPower|PC | also tried WorldFrame as anchor, same result |
| 23:09.48 | kremonte | foxlit: s'wat the wiki says |
| 23:09.55 | kremonte | s/s'wat/s'what/ |
| 23:10.08 | Kirov | try hidden="false" |
| 23:10.26 | Kirov | setOwner should take care of that "issue" but doesn't always seem to |
| 23:10.51 | Kirov | also, in 2.0 I've noticed multiple :Set... calls with out a SetOwner hides the tooltip. |
| 23:11.01 | kremonte | it works |
| 23:11.02 | kremonte | :O |
| 23:11.13 | kremonte | ~ give Kirov a hug |
| 23:11.21 | purl | ACTION gives a hug to Kirov |
| 23:11.21 | MentalPower|PC | which one? |
| 23:11.21 | MentalPower|PC | hidden=false? |
| 23:11.22 | kremonte | purl, give kirov a hug |
| 23:11.24 | purl | ACTION gives a hug to kirov |
| 23:11.24 | kremonte | yes |
| 23:11.29 | kremonte | way to lag, purl |
| 23:12.28 | Qshadowp | purl, emulate Qshadowp |
| 23:12.29 | purl | ~poke purl |
| 23:12.32 | Qshadowp | :D |
| 23:13.13 | Kirov | btw, <Ui> is all that's needed |
| 23:13.24 | Kirov | the rest is used by XMLSpy and similar xml editors |
| 23:13.35 | kremonte | that makes more sense |
| 23:13.37 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 23:13.41 | kremonte | i see it in every xml file so yeah :P |
| 23:13.41 | foxlit | Don't anchor it to iself. |
| 23:13.47 | kremonte | XML phails me |
| 23:14.03 | Kirov | kremonte - copy n' paste from blizz's xml |
| 23:14.10 | Kirov | no one new better |
| 23:14.11 | Kirov | heh |
| 23:14.11 | kremonte | cba to extract it :P |
| 23:14.15 | Kirov | er, knew |
| 23:14.16 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/3907 |
| 23:14.20 | kremonte | foxlit: anchoring it to itself seems to be working; i had the same results with UIParent parented |
| 23:14.23 | kremonte | but hidden="false" works |
| 23:14.31 | Kirov | foxlit - UIParent is bad |
| 23:14.38 | Kirov | alt+z will break your tooltip |
| 23:14.39 | kremonte | WorldFrame ftw |
| 23:15.19 | foxlit | Doesn't happen often, though |
| 23:15.30 | kremonte | i take screenshots all the time :P |
| 23:15.37 | Kirov | foxlit - which is all the more reason not ot do it. |
| 23:16.02 | Kirov | foxlit - imagine "your mod just stopped working randomly" reports with out any kind of common reason. |
| 23:16.19 | Teomyr | 15 GB of screenshots... holy crap |
| 23:16.39 | Kirov | Teomyr - what, do you run around holding down the screenshot key? |
| 23:17.03 | Teomyr | sort of :D |
| 23:17.05 | foxlit | I don't think it'd be that grave in this case |
| 23:17.18 | foxlit | But yes, point taken |
| 23:17.21 | Teomyr | those are all my screenshots since i started playing at release... uncompressed |
| 23:17.25 | kremonte | i have 12 gb of screenshots and i take them maybe once or twice a day :P hehe |
| 23:17.27 | kremonte | they build up |
| 23:17.29 | kremonte | hugeass TGAs |
| 23:17.41 | Kirov | uncompressed images ftw |
| 23:18.16 | Kirov | wow only saves 24 bit I think, which is good, else those numbers would be 25% bigger |
| 23:18.45 | kremonte | it's horrible if you play in big resolutions... i used to play in 1600x1200, they were more than 2mb a piece, usually much higher |
| 23:18.49 | kremonte | s/mb/MB/ |
| 23:20.26 | kremonte | hm, any way to intercept incoming messages before they're printed to the chat frame? |
| 23:20.57 | Kirov | kremonte - sure |
| 23:21.07 | kremonte | oh, yea, hooking |
| 23:21.11 | kremonte | wow, i haven't done anything in a while |
| 23:21.15 | kremonte | it shows huh :/ |
| 23:22.15 | Guillotine | krem!!!! |
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| 23:22.40 | kremonte | Guillotine!!! |
| 23:25.38 | foxlit | [Cu]Werik: how come you don't show up as [Cu] on curse? :P |
| 23:25.47 | foxlit | Zinor has the flag, you don't. |
| 23:25.55 | Tierrie|Work | Werik is a ninja |
| 23:26.04 | Tierrie|Work | Ninjas can't be seen |
| 23:26.07 | Tierrie|Work | hence the lack of a c u |
| 23:26.13 | [Cu]Werik | I'm not a curse representative |
| 23:26.23 | kremonte | so why the Cu? o_O |
| 23:26.48 | [Cu]Werik | I dont know, they said only people who rarely post stuff will get [Cu] flag |
| 23:27.49 | Guillotine | I don't have flag either :( |
| 23:27.59 | Guillotine | I tried posting less, but still no flag |
| 23:28.27 | kremonte | wow i managed to fail at hooking too |
| 23:28.30 | kremonte | i suck today, i really really suck |
| 23:28.59 | Tierrie|Work | For a Wii? |
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| 23:29.11 | kremonte | http://wowi.pastey.net/3908 |
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| 23:29.25 | foxlit | Wrong function |
| 23:29.41 | kremonte | what's the right function? that's what i normally use(d) to hook chat :X |
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| 23:30.41 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/3909 |
| 23:30.53 | foxlit | If memory serves, it taints macros or something similar in 2.0 |
| 23:30.59 | kremonte | ah |
| 23:31.04 | foxlit | So what you actually want is ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 23:31.06 | kremonte | that only works with chat text, right? |
| 23:31.19 | foxlit | Yep |
| 23:31.51 | foxlit | You could also hook :AddMessage(text,r,g,b) itself if you wanted absolute control of everything, |
| 23:32.57 | foxlit | Oh, um. |
| 23:33.09 | foxlit | Not sure if arg1 is global or passed. |
| 23:33.16 | kremonte | all event stuff is global |
| 23:33.24 | MentalPower|PC | not anymore |
| 23:33.25 | ckknight | http://wcradio.com:8000/listen.pls <-- woot, interview with me in 30 minutes |
| 23:33.36 | foxlit | It's a bit strange in 2.0 |
| 23:33.41 | MentalPower|PC | kremonte: you can safely hook ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 23:33.50 | MentalPower|PC | it no longer causes taint |
| 23:34.01 | kremonte | MentalPower: how so? ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler isnt working >< |
| 23:34.52 | kremonte | oh, it works now |
| 23:34.54 | kremonte | nevermind :D |
| 23:35.00 | MentalPower|PC | well, the base XML handlers now pass stuff as arguments and *also* set the globals, however the globals might die at some point in the future |
| 23:45.17 | Drundia | omg i decided to spec enchanting and i already disabled 3 cosmos addons while trying to do my first disenchant... |
| 23:47.39 | foxlit | Might not be their fault then |
| 23:51.10 | Barbanus | ckknight OMG |
| 23:51.17 | Barbanus | ckknight, spam the channel when you come on |
| 23:51.22 | ckknight | Barbanus: why? |
| 23:51.24 | Barbanus | This music is horrid |
| 23:51.35 | Barbanus | horrid isnt even the right word |
| 23:51.38 | ckknight | told em. |
| 23:51.49 | Barbanus | I'm muting it :P tell me when you get on :P |
| 23:52.29 | ckknight | will do |
| 23:53.08 | Gnarfoz | metallica > you ;p |
| 23:53.20 | Anjai | agreed |
| 23:53.26 | Barbanus | if its good metalica ... |
| 23:53.34 | Gnarfoz | it's 56kbit/s anyway, what do you expect |
| 23:53.38 | Gnarfoz | mono, even |
| 23:54.13 | Barbanus | Prodigy .. hmm |
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| 23:54.39 | Gnarfoz | back to symphorce for me |
| 23:54.40 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 23:55.02 | Kirkburn | I approve more of this music :) |
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| 23:55.19 | Anjai | this song always reminds me of that movie hackers |
| 23:55.23 | KiphereCE | HAI |
| 23:55.52 | Gnarfoz | KiphereCE: how'd the coworker like the dust? |
| 23:55.58 | AnduinLothar | Drundia: I don't spose you bothered to read forum posts on the problem, eh? |
| 23:56.38 | KiphereCE | >_> |
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| 23:57.07 | Kirkburn | Argh f'ing router |
| 23:58.42 | ckknight | 3 minutes, Barbanus |
