irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20070109

`00:03.58`	`Xolan[EU]`	`will using break actually break a for-loop or just stop that interation and go on with the next?`
`00:04.16`	`Xolan[EU]`	`*iteration (not even sure that's the word though :P)`
`00:04.20`	`Shadowed`	`it'll stop the for-loop`
`00:04.29`	`Xolan[EU]`	`ok great`
`00:06.03`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Mr_Rabies (n=Mr_Rabie@adsl-066-156-082-132.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)`
`00:09.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Tuller, you about?`
`00:09.42`	`Tuller`	`ZealotOnAStick: yes`
`00:10.14`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Any bug reports of the menu bar getting split when vertical?`
`00:10.29`	`Tuller`	`no, not yet, but I remember it now :)`
`00:10.51`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I can provide screenies if it's helpful.`
`00:10.53`	`Tuller`	`its a really weird one that only happens on login, I think`
`00:11.04`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Reproducible steps thus far seem to be "have it be vertical, and reloadui"`
`00:11.11`	`Tuller`	`yeah, that's it :)`
`00:11.23`	`Tuller`	`you can fix it by adjusting the layout of the bar`
`00:12.03`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Well, I set it to non-vertical and then back, and it's right . . . but I have it just left of my primary chat frame, that's really terribly annoying every login/reload.`
`00:13.05`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Anything I can do to try to help get you useful info for fixing it?`
`00:14.02`	`Tuller`	`fixed in mine :)`
`00:14.11`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Bah.`
`00:14.21`	`Tuller`	`it'll be up probably in an hour or so`
`00:14.22`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`trivial or nontrivial?`
`00:14.40`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I don't mind a minor bit of code alteration to get it done if it's easy.`
`00:14.48`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Inside (n=nowhere@en34.ips.PaulBunyan.net)`
`00:14.57`	`Tuller`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4769`
`00:15.09`	`Tuller`	`add that to the end of the menubar's bar.lua file`
`00:16.48`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`sorta strange, as the character I noticed that on was a level 60. But, trying.`
`00:18.52`	`Tuller`	`actually, the visibility check isn't necessary, just the bar exists check`
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`00:19.13`	`Tuller`	`the visiblity check was really old code, probably from when I didn't use setparent`
`00:19.56`	`Tuller`	`well, when setparent didn't exist, I think`
`00:19.59`	`Castdead`	`hello, ckknight, wanted to tell my addon is working :) ty for your help on the tables. now i'm making the custom unit frames for it`
`00:20.18`	`ckknight`	`cool beans`
`00:23.42`	`Tuller`	`ZealotOnAStick: does bongos feel faster when paging now, or did you not ever use the feature?`
`00:27.18`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`I'd have to play with it on my druid for a bit, Tuller.`
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`00:27.53`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`ok, pet bar outlines looked weird, but they're ok now that I reloaded.`
`00:28.33`	`Arel`	`All right, time to relax and hit the sack. Thanks for the help again, people, you were great.`
`00:30.21`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Pet bar (as a warlock) initial summon, all the buttons appear to be sorta greyed-out (such as they are when mounted, though I wasn't), until one of them is clicked on.`
`00:30.22`	`zenzio`	`I hate how the pet bar/stance bar icons end up looking if I have the (additional) bottom left actionbar enabled`
`00:34.53`	`Xolan[EU]`	`would CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM be the correct even to check for the [Player] has left the raid. in the chat?`
`00:35.33`	`cladhaire`	`i believe so. thats what I check for "you have left the raid"`
`00:36.00`	`Xolan[EU]`	`in bg's I have to check for the name too though`
`00:36.16`	`Xolan[EU]`	`when they're finished I mean`
`00:36.18`	`Xolan[EU]`	`but yeah thanks`
`00:36.20`	`Xolan[EU]`	`will try it`
`00:37.11`	`Nom-`	`cladhaire: I didn't get a chance to look at the changes you made, but I assume it's something close to what it was in 1.0 ?`
`00:37.22`	`cladhaire`	`Nom-: There as never a 1.0 =)`
`00:37.27`	`cladhaire`	`but it would be the same graphic`
`00:37.29`	`cladhaire`	`eventually, yeah`
`00:37.30`	`Nom-`	`Yeah, but the previous version`
`00:37.51`	`beerke`	`Xolan[EU], i think you can even hook a more specific event for that`
`00:38.00`	`Nom-`	`No piece of software every really reaches 1.0`
`00:38.06`	`Nom-`	`imho`
`00:38.15`	`Nom-`	`There's always something that someone wanted which got tabled`
`00:38.29`	`Nom-`	`Therefore nothing is ever complete :P`
`00:38.31`	`cladhaire`	`nah`
`00:38.35`	`cladhaire`	`you need proper milestonesw`
`00:39.24`	`Kirkburn`	`oooh, major Steam upgrade today`
`00:39.30`	`Tuller`	`pet bar thing fixed`
`00:39.31`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`00:39.32`	`beerke`	`Xolan[EU], look here http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Party`
`00:39.50`	`JoshBorke`	`hola!`
`00:40.15`	`Cairenn`	`hi JoshBorke`
`00:40.29`	`kahdgarxi`	`hi JoshBorke`
`00:40.56`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`The damage coefficient for Curse of Agony is being reduced from 160% to 120% and from 120% to 93% for Corruption`
`00:40.57`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`weee`
`00:41.09`	`JoshBorke`	`nerf locks imo`
`00:41.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hopefully no more dying before fear breaks anymore :p`
`00:42.07`	`Nom-`	`cladhaire: The only thing I think is missing right now to make it more user-friendly, is hover effects... is:`
`00:42.21`	`cladhaire`	`well i told you`
`00:42.23`	`Nom-`	`1. Hover effects; something to indicate which frame you've got the mouse over`
`00:42.27`	`cladhaire`	`get me a hovery texture =)`
`00:42.34`	`cladhaire`	`i said that this mornign =)`
`00:42.43`	`Nom-`	`email sigh k`
`00:43.07`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`00:43.15`	`Tain`	`goatse makes a good hovery texture!`
`00:43.17`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i miss Discord Group Buttons :[`
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`00:43.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i wants them backs`
`00:43.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`ha`
`00:43.49`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Let me see what frame is thiDEAR GOD I CAN SEE THIS MAN'S COLON`
`00:44.07`	`Tain`	`That would be so awesome.`
`00:44.38`	`Nom-`	`There you go, email sent`
`00:44.55`	`Nom-`	`There's only 3 things which I think are needed to make it a viable mod for most users`
`00:45.02`	`cladhaire`	`oh no i know`
`00:45.07`	`cladhaire`	`i said find me a texture for the highlight effect`
`00:45.09`	`cladhaire`	`hehe =)`
`00:45.11`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Mr_Rabies2: Those changes bite. More people bitching about stuff based on level 60 stats when they work fine at 70.`
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`00:45.30`	`Nom-`	`lol i've no idea what the texture needs to look like or be structured as`
`00:45.32`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Affliction locks were once again fun and viable and distinct in raids now, rather than inferior shadow mages, and that's being killed.`
`00:45.59`	`Nom-`	`as far as i'm concerned the hover effect can be a white/grey tint`
`00:46.03`	`cladhaire`	`Nom-: So find something you like =)`
`00:46.06`	`Nom-`	`and the target can be a yellow border`
`00:46.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i have no sympathy after seeing so many locks laugh at us losing potions and procs in feral forms`
`00:46.56`	`beerke`	`Mr_Rabies2 The damage coefficient for Curse of Agony is being reduced from 160% to 120% and from 120% to 93% for Corruption`
`00:46.56`	`beerke`	`What does that mean ?`
`00:47.02`	`beerke`	`less warlock dmg ?`
`00:47.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`from dots, yeah`
`00:47.18`	`Xolan[EU]`	`clad: if event == "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM" and (arg1 == UnitName("player").." has left the raid group" or arg1 == "You have left the raid group") then \| would that be correct?`
`00:47.20`	`Nom-`	`extra damage gear just isn't as effective`
`00:47.22`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`which means you may survive a fear without dying`
`00:47.39`	`Nom-`	`instead of getting 160% bonus from spell damage gear on curse of agony, you only get 120% now`
`00:47.47`	`beerke`	`aaa`
`00:47.48`	`Nom-`	`which is much more balanced..`
`00:47.50`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`It means Affliction locks took a hell of a beating from the entire Nerf product line.`
`00:47.53`	`cladhaire`	`well, You have left the raid group is a globalstring`
`00:47.55`	`Nom-`	`sure you whinge that it works fine at level 70`
`00:48.02`	`Nom-`	`the problem is EVERYONE is level 60 right now`
`00:48.05`	`cladhaire`	`you could probably find the format for the first one too`
`00:48.18`	`Nom-`	`warlocks don't even need to dot my mage up with all 3`
`00:48.18`	`Xolan[EU]`	`have no idea what a globalstring is :)`
`00:48.33`	`Nom-`	`coa and corruption is enough to kill my poor mage if i don't ice block`
`00:48.53`	`Nom-`	`sorry, corruption alone is`
`00:49.03`	`[Cu]Werik`	`That's a 25% nerf`
`00:49.05`	`[Cu]Werik`	`cool:)`
`00:49.29`	`Nom-`	`if i ice barrier, i can survive a corruption, but all it takes is one shadowbolt and i'm dead from that`
`00:49.53`	`Shadowed`	`my goal is`
`00:49.58`	`Shadowed`	`as long as the warlock dies before me, i'm happy`
`00:50.04`	`Nom-`	`haha`
`00:50.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i've died from coa + corruption before fear wears off so many times`
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`00:50.33`	`Shadowed`	`which is easy enough to do as long as they aren't soul link`
`00:51.12`	`Nom-`	`I'd like to see the gear and spec which makes corruption last for nearly 3000 damage tho`
`00:51.38`	`Nom-`	`i'm sure it's really good gear, but still, damn it hurts`
`00:52.22`	`Nom-`	`oh well, 1 week to paladin`
`00:52.24`	`Nom-`	`It's allllll good`
`00:52.29`	`Shadowed`	`warlocks are at least doing what they should be as damage dealers in PVE`
`00:53.05`	`Nom-`	`well i dunno`
`00:53.18`	`Nom-`	`I've hear arguements that warlocks in full t2 should not out-damage a mage in full t2`
`00:53.21`	`Nom-`	`but they do`
`00:53.44`	`Nom-`	`warlocks damage scales much more with gear`
`00:53.53`	`Nom-`	`at least that's what it looks like`
`00:54.16`	`Nom-`	`In my guild, we've got t2 warlocks who do more damage in every boss fight than rogues`
`00:54.23`	`Nom-`	`and that's just mad`
`00:54.44`	`Shadowed`	`warlocks should be better sustained DPS, mages should be better burst DPS`
`00:54.50`	`Shadowed`	`PVE is about sustained not burst`
`00:54.58`	`Nom-`	`hardly`
`00:55.10`	`Nom-`	`frost mages are the staying build`
`00:55.23`	`Shadowed`	`and druids are hybrids, that didn't work out well :p`
`00:55.27`	`Nom-`	`warlocks burn their mana like mad, the only reason they can keep it up is due to life tap`
`00:55.45`	`Nom-`	`What's wrong with druids?`
`00:55.58`	`Nom-`	`The only problem with druids right now, is nearly all their PvE sets are for healing`
`00:56.01`	`Shadowed`	`before TBC? they couldn't do anything well except heal`
`00:56.16`	`Nom-`	`That's due to gear`
`00:56.20`	`Nom-`	`Not due to the class itself`
`00:57.16`	`Shadowed`	`and? gear is a big part`
`00:57.19`	`Shadowed`	`why spend possibly months gearing out a Druid when a Rogue can do the same thing requiring much less time to gear out`
`00:57.45`	`cladhaire`	`so heal?`
`00:57.52`	`cladhaire`	`rolling a hybrid to not heal is silly`
`00:57.53`	`Xolan[EU]`	`if event == "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM" and (arg1 == UnitName("player").." has left the raid group" or arg1 == "You have left the raid group") then \| gave me a stack overflow`
`00:57.55`	`Xolan[EU]`	`what's that?`
`00:57.57`	`cladhaire`	`sure, if you get to alt spec, that's great`
`00:58.10`	`Shadowed`	`It means that it tried to call something over and over`
`00:58.17`	`Shadowed`	`the same function was calling itself basically`
`00:58.22`	`Xolan[EU]`	`aha`
`00:58.33`	`Nom-`	`heh`
`00:58.43`	`Xolan[EU]`	`can I force an event? :P`
`00:58.44`	`Nom-`	`Paladin is such a viable tank now tho`
`00:59.13`	`Shadowed`	`Are you trying to track when the player leaves the raid group Xolan[EU]?`
`00:59.27`	`Xolan[EU]`	`yeah basically`
`00:59.41`	`Nom-`	`What's the taunt that paladins get called`
`00:59.48`	`Nom-`	`or is that a 60-70 skill`
`00:59.53`	`Shadowed`	`it's a level 60 skill`
`00:59.54`	`Xolan[EU]`	`but I didn't think through my function structure properly originally so it's a bit wierd`
`00:59.59`	`Shadowed`	`Xolan[EU] try this instead`
`01:00.08`	`Shadowed`	`if event == "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM" and arg1 == ERR_RAID_YOU_LEFT ) then`
`01:00.12`	`Shadowed`	`err, minus the ) at the end`
`01:00.30`	`Xolan[EU]`	`aha so that was the global string thingy :P`
`01:00.37`	`Nom-`	`What's it called? I can't see it in the thott list`
`01:01.11`	`JoshBorke`	`righteous defense`
`01:01.12`	`Shadowed`	`Yeah, theres a file called GlobalStrings.lua that contains most of the text you see in game, and it's also localized to whatever client the person is running`
`01:01.25`	`Xolan[EU]`	`ah`
`01:01.26`	`Xolan[EU]`	`neat :P`
`01:01.31`	`Nom-`	`oh that's not a taunt tho`
`01:01.39`	`Nom-`	`well is suppose it could be`
`01:01.47`	`JoshBorke`	`it is`
`01:01.49`	`Shadowed`	`what kind of taunt are you talking about Nom?`
`01:01.59`	`Nom-`	`Well it's not a taunt the target`
`01:02.00`	`JoshBorke`	`you just have to change how you do things`
`01:02.01`	`Shadowed`	`It's not a single target taunt like the Warrior defensive stance one, but it's still a taunt`
`01:02.03`	`Nom-`	`It's taunts off another palyer`
`01:02.07`	`Nom-`	`true`
`01:02.11`	`JoshBorke`	`try /cast [target=targettarget] Righteous Defense`
`01:02.11`	`Shadowed`	`Same thing really`
`01:02.12`	`Nom-`	`and it's not level 60`
`01:02.14`	`Nom-`	`It's level 14 :P`
`01:02.53`	`Nom-`	`I look forward to it all tho`
`01:03.18`	`Nom-`	`7 days until I can roll my BE pally`
`01:03.19`	`Nom-`	`:D`
`01:03.45`	`kahdgarxi`	`there are gonna be soooooo many BE pallies in silvermoon on tuesday`
`01:03.56`	`Nom-`	`Yeah, but i'm taking mine to org immediately`
`01:04.06`	`Nom-`	`I'm going to do my 1-20 in the barrens and durotar`
`01:04.10`	`Nom-`	`Just to avoid the masses`
`01:04.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and i bet no one will want to group`
`01:04.12`	`Shadowed`	`The taunt doesn't work on the Paladin himself I take it?`
`01:04.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and thus will whine about not being able to find quest mobs`
`01:04.23`	`Nom-`	`doubtful, Shadowed`
`01:04.31`	`Nom-`	`It's come to the defense of an ally`
`01:04.50`	`Shadowed`	`should be useful still in most cases if the paladin is quick enough at least`
`01:04.56`	`Nom-`	`indeed`
`01:05.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`what's it called again?`
`01:05.07`	`kahdgarxi`	`it'll be nice when i pull healing aggro :)`
`01:05.10`	`Nom-`	`It's not going to help those 4 warlocks who just can't back off on the DPS tho`
`01:05.11`	`Shadowed`	`[02:53] <JoshBorke> righteous defense`
`01:05.13`	`Nom-`	`Righteous Defense3`
`01:05.26`	`kahdgarxi`	`OOOooo`
`01:05.28`	`Shadowed`	`well it only taunts off one person, so the other 3 warlocks can just die`
`01:05.32`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`ha`
`01:05.33`	`kahdgarxi`	`righteous defense version 3.0`
`01:08.22`	`Nom-`	`well it would save the other 3 warlocks`
`01:08.27`	`Nom-`	`until the taunts wear off`
`01:08.36`	`Shadowed`	`mmm how?`
`01:08.38`	`Nom-`	`hmm it doesn't specify a duration`
`01:08.44`	`Nom-`	`it commands them to attack the paladin instead`
`01:08.54`	`Nom-`	`so i don't know how that would work with > 1 person higher on the aggro`
`01:09.03`	`kahdgarxi`	`maybe it transfers all their threat to you?`
`01:09.05`	`kahdgarxi`	`to the pally*`
`01:09.08`	`kahdgarxi`	`that would be HAX`
`01:09.11`	`Nom-`	`That'd be cool`
`01:09.26`	`Shadowed`	`Isn't it a targetted AE taunt? If Mobs 1-2 attacks warlock A, 3-4 warlock b, 5 warlock c, you use taunt on A, only mobs 1-2 are tautned to the paladin?`
`01:09.28`	`Nom-`	`That would help shaman healers sooo much`
`01:09.30`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Karn (n=thekarn@82-69-81-74.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)`
`01:09.37`	`Shadowed`	`It works the same way that Warriors AE taunt does i'd imagine`
`01:09.41`	`Nom-`	`commands up to 3 targets to attack the paladin isntead of your target`
`01:10.02`	`Nom-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:10.13`	`Shadowed`	`Right, so you'd only save one warlock not all 4`
`01:10.39`	`Nom-`	`40 yd range too`
`01:11.06`	`Nom-`	`That's about the one thing that makes it better than warrior taunt`
`01:11.11`	`Nom-`	`That would rock for Shazzrah`
`01:11.21`	`Xolan[EU]`	`does table = {} also reset/flush the table?`
`01:11.22`	`zenzio`	`does it last for ~10 seconds only?`
`01:11.27`	`Shadowed`	`hm interesting`
`01:11.27`	`Nom-`	`not shazz`
`01:11.33`	`Nom-`	`who'st he one who does blinks and ae`
`01:11.39`	`Shadowed`	`It's different from Warrior AE taunt`
`01:12.01`	`Shadowed`	`It works more like single target taunt for warriors/druids`
`01:12.16`	`Nom-`	`yeah except theirs is close range`
`01:12.25`	`Shadowed`	`I mean spell data wise`
`01:12.28`	`zenzio`	`Challenging Shout is annoying... can rarely generate enough aggro on the targets to keep them afterwards`
`01:12.33`	`Nom-`	`this way the paladin doesn't even need to run to the mob`
`01:12.47`	`Nom-`	`they can cast it from 40 yards away, which is further than most of your party is gonig to be`
`01:12.55`	`Shadowed`	`Challenging shout applies the aura taunt to everyone within 10 yards, single target taunt applies the aura taunt and the spell "Attack Me"`
`01:13.17`	`Shadowed`	`righteous defense applies attack me and the aura taunt`
`01:13.21`	`Nom-`	`Yeah, it's probably not going to help on AE much`
`01:13.30`	`zenzio`	`but it's limited to three targets?`
`01:13.31`	`Nom-`	`But it'll help if you're tanking multiple while your group focus fires`
`01:13.37`	`Nom-`	`If the healer pulls, you can pull them back`
`01:13.47`	`Nom-`	`That's what it says, zenzio`
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`01:14.08`	`zenzio`	`I'd prefer only two, but I guess that'd be unreasonable`
`01:14.19`	`zenzio`	`stupid other classes wanting to have aggro!`
`01:14.34`	`Shadowed`	`the only issue i have with paladin AE taunt is paladins use it to save mages`
`01:14.40`	`Shadowed`	`and mages not being dead is bad`
`01:14.55`	`Nom-`	`sif`
`01:15.06`	`Nom-`	`any dps class being dead is bad`
`01:15.12`	`Nom-`	`healer being dead is worse, but still`
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`01:15.22`	`Shadowed`	`we have mages with skills in dying`
`01:15.23`	`zenzio`	`some dead DPS can be a good thing`
`01:15.29`	`Nom-`	`If the healer is pulling aggro, then someone needs to lern2tank`
`01:15.34`	`Shadowed`	`it makes for fun naxx clears when every spider pull the same mages die`
`01:15.36`	`zenzio`	`usually they're the ones causing aggro trouble, so they're doing less harm that way`
`01:16.06`	`Nom-`	`lol`
`01:16.30`	`Nom-`	`then kick your mage`
`01:16.31`	`zenzio`	`healers dying and poor tanking depends on the situation... if there's more mobs around than there's tanks then it simply can be hard sometimes`
`01:16.36`	`Nom-`	`our mages never pull aggro`
`01:16.42`	`Nom-`	`it's the goddamn warlocks`
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`01:17.06`	`Nom-`	`if they do pull aggro, we're almost all frost builds, so we ice block and let the tank get the aggro back`
`01:17.15`	`Shadowed`	`depends what zone you're doing, it's alot harder in the 5 man TBC zones, but theres really no pull in MC through naxx that should have healers dying from aggro`
`01:17.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<-- plays a very deep fire mage in raids`
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`01:17.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<-- watched a frost mage pull aggro with a wand and laughed`
`01:17.42`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`Tuller - going to be able to hide the minimap button?`
`01:17.50`	`Tuller`	`ZealotOnAStick: yes`
`01:17.53`	`Nom-`	`yeah fire builds are near impossible to not pull if you're all out nuking`
`01:17.57`	`Nom-`	`You need to know what you're doing`
`01:18.06`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Which I fortunately do`
`01:18.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Oddly, frost mage who pulled aggro with wand? RAID LEADER. :)`
`01:18.19`	`zenzio`	`if you don't you shouldn't be raiding anyhow`
`01:18.29`	`Nom-`	`lol then he's a noob and started dps too soon`
`01:18.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I laughed, hard`
`01:18.40`	`Shadowed`	`zenzio can you honestly tell me all 40 people that you raid with are 100% good players :p`
`01:18.46`	`zenzio`	`no`
`01:18.47`	`Nom-`	`noone should be able to pull with a wand unless the tank is an absolute nub, or they opened up dps too soon`
`01:18.49`	`ScytheBlade1`	`He did that three times, and then just said "I give up"`
`01:18.53`	`zenzio`	`but I also don't think all of the deserve to be in the raid`
`01:18.58`	`zenzio`	`just isn't my decision`
`01:19.03`	`Shadowed`	`the problem is replacements`
`01:19.21`	`zenzio`	`not necessarily. Sometimes it is, but there are great replacements also`
`01:19.22`	`Shadowed`	`only people who can afford to kick the poor players and have a roster of 45-49 people that are all great are the top top guilds like DT`
`01:19.27`	`Nom-`	`ah see that's where we don't have problems`
`01:19.32`	`Nom-`	`our guild is full of good players`
`01:19.44`	`Shadowed`	`I doubt you can honestly say they are all good`
`01:19.44`	`Nom-`	`If you're a nub, you're not in the guild, so it's not an issue`
`01:19.57`	`Nom-`	`They are man, we kick the nubs pretty damn early`
`01:20.06`	`Shadowed`	`what server?`
`01:20.10`	`Nom-`	`Stormscale`
`01:20.18`	`Shadowed`	`US?`
`01:20.22`	`Nom-`	`Yea`
`01:21.09`	`Nom-`	`Obviously every raid will have someone pull at some stage, but everyone is pretty damn good... we NEVER PUG a raid`
`01:21.29`	`Shadowed`	`Weird, suprised you can keep a full roster that easly with that many raiding guilds`
`01:21.40`	`zenzio`	`the only time we invite out-of-guild people is if they're applicants`
`01:21.44`	`Nom-`	`Two full raid teams, one running BWL, one running MC ... the only time we've had any trouble in BWL is when we bring a few people from MC who haven't done BWL before`
`01:22.15`	`Shadowed`	`Yeah i'm not saying invite pugs, it's just very rare that you can find a full guild of ready-to-raid and good players, since you usually run into recruitment problems`
`01:22.32`	`Nom-`	`Yeah`
`01:23.11`	`Nom-`	`We've not had many problems until recently when everyone prefers to PvP`
`01:23.15`	`Corrodias`	`my guild would sometimes call in some members of other guilds with whom we have good relations`
`01:23.22`	`Nom-`	`But that's our entire server, so not much you can do about that`
`01:23.24`	`Corrodias`	`i haven't played since 2.0 hit for a couple of reasons`
`01:23.45`	`zenzio`	`my guild haven't raided after 2.0 :-( Just PvP and waiting for BC`
`01:23.47`	`Shadowed`	`not suprising really`
`01:23.48`	`Nom-`	`I've been on a grand total of 2 raids in the last 4 weeks`
`01:23.53`	`Nom-`	`MC and ZG...both PUGS`
`01:23.57`	`Shadowed`	`if you aren't in AQ40/Naxx you can get free epixs easly`
`01:24.13`	`zenzio`	`I've done two PUG MCs, PUG Taerar after 2.0, and that's it :-/`
`01:24.16`	`Nom-`	`Our BWL raid team is working on AQ40 too`
`01:24.22`	`Shadowed`	`how far?`
`01:24.39`	`Corrodias`	`i feel poorly motivated to do anything with my level 60 guy since BC is so close, and the only thing i feel like playing is a mage, which i want to be a blood elf anyway`
`01:24.42`	`Nom-`	`I don't know the boss names lol`
`01:24.50`	`Nom-`	`Just after the fast respawning bugs`
`01:24.52`	`Shadowed`	`i know Warriors have better gear from PVP stuff up until basically huhu`
`01:25.01`	`zenzio`	`Nom-: Fankriss`
`01:25.22`	`Nom-`	`Yeah, normally we kill them and are working on the boss just after them`
`01:25.23`	`zenzio`	`Shadowed: for which role, DPS or tanking?`
`01:26.00`	`Nom-`	`We're also starting to work on Naxx too as a whole guild rather than raid team`
`01:26.16`	`Nom-`	`But again, that all stopped with 2.0 :(`
`01:26.28`	`zenzio`	`I wish my guild had come further in Naxxramas... but we also stopped after 2.0`
`01:26.35`	`[Cu]Werik`	`I have heared that Essence of Fires died out`
`01:26.40`	`zenzio`	`cleared spider wing, took the first boss in other wings (Patchwerk only once)`
`01:27.18`	`zenzio`	`[Cu]Werik: was that a guild, or are you farming essences? o_O`
`01:27.29`	`[Cu]Werik`	`I was.. for 3 hours`
`01:27.35`	`zenzio`	`hehe`
`01:28.02`	`zenzio`	`I've usually not gotten many essences while farming... the fire elementals in Un'goro for Elemental Fire`
`01:28.06`	`[Cu]Werik`	`got two bags of coal`
`01:29.04`	`[Cu]Werik`	`I don't know. It's just stupid`
`01:29.29`	`zenzio`	`how much do the Essences of Fire cost on your server?`
`01:29.38`	`[Cu]Werik`	`9 or 10 gold?`
`01:29.50`	`Nom-`	`I wish I could find people to farm MC trash sigh`
`01:29.51`	`zenzio`	`think they're 4-5 on mine`
`01:30.03`	`Nom-`	`Want those damn cores for grinding out TB rep :(`
`01:30.33`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Well that won't help me zenzio will it?:)`
`01:30.45`	`zenzio`	`no, was just curious`
`01:31.07`	`Shadowed`	`zenzio: DPS, GM Shield/Sword are decent at least for tanking if you have nothing else`
`01:31.10`	`zenzio`	`I'm not too excited about having to get new FR gear in BC... right now I only have two pieces of Dark Iron gear, and both of them I had to pay for myself; along with NR gear`
`01:31.33`	`[Cu]Werik`	`There are stuff with 60 FR`
`01:31.34`	`[Cu]Werik`	`in tbc`
`01:31.40`	`Nom-`	`Does anyone else find it a little concerning that PvP weapons at level 70 are only blues? :p`
`01:31.45`	`zenzio`	`yes, but probably not much easier to get than the Dark Iron gear`
`01:31.52`	`Shadowed`	`not really`
`01:31.55`	`Nom-`	`I sure hope you can get honor faster at level 70`
`01:31.59`	`Xolan[EU]`	`ERR_RAID_MEMBER_REMOVED_S = "%s has left the raid group"; \| how can I check the %s there?`
`01:32.02`	`Nom-`	`because holy crap is that a long grind for a blue`
`01:32.08`	`Shadowed`	`Xolan[EU]: Replace %s with (.+)`
`01:32.21`	`[Cu]Werik`	`It's much shorter than grinding for arena stuff`
`01:32.33`	`Nom-`	`Yeah, but for blues`
`01:32.37`	`Nom-`	`Might as well run 5-mans`
`01:32.39`	`[Cu]Werik`	`so what?`
`01:32.45`	`Shadowed`	`they're shifting the BG weapons to a lower priority and trying to make it more worthwhile to either raid, do 5 mans or get arena`
`01:32.47`	`[Cu]Werik`	`they are better than any non instance loot`
`01:32.48`	`zenzio`	`does it matter their color? Stats is what counts`
`01:32.58`	`Xolan[EU]`	`erm if event == "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM" and arg1 == ERR_RAID_MEMBER_REMOVED_S , how can I also check if the one who left is the player? :P`
`01:33.07`	`Shadowed`	`Well, if they aren't epic they "probably" wont be as good as the epics you get from arenas`
`01:33.19`	`Nom-`	`blues typically are not as good as epics of the same level`
`01:33.22`	`Nom-`	`so yeah, it does matter`
`01:33.25`	`Xolan[EU]`	`(as you don't get the "you have left blabla" message when you're booted out of a BG)`
`01:33.28`	`[Cu]Werik`	`So? you can get a GM sword after 3 days of pvp`
`01:33.37`	`[Cu]Werik`	`you can get an arena sword after a month, maybe`
`01:33.39`	`Nom-`	`I'm not grinding for 3 days straight to get one blue item, which i could get it in a couple of hours of instance runs`
`01:33.40`	`Shadowed`	`3? You can get it in like two days`
`01:33.42`	`zenzio`	`Nom-: but simply saying they're "blue" gives no real indication of their stats`
`01:33.54`	`Shadowed`	`PRobably can do it in a day of WSG holidays with a good grinding team`
`01:34.41`	`Nom-`	`Yeah, but for me it's 3 days based on the number of hours I can put in :P`
`01:34.56`	`Nom-`	`I got tired of PvP after getting my HWL Spellblade`
`01:35.12`	`Shadowed`	`Now imagine doing that for about 3-4 months, and not being able to take a break :p`
`01:35.14`	`zenzio`	`I'm still at 0 HKs \o/`
`01:35.21`	`End`	`it goes a lot slower when it's not weekend I noticed`
`01:35.39`	`Nom-`	`That was 3 days of AB Weekend grinding`
`01:35.43`	`End`	`although I got the most honor when it was AV weekend, oddly enough`
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`01:35.45`	`Nom-`	`Of pretty much nothing but 5-caps`
`01:35.54`	`Shadowed`	`End: Alliance?`
`01:35.58`	`End`	`no`
`01:36.02`	`End`	`horde, even odder :P`
`01:36.04`	`Nom-`	`And then I got shortchanged on honor for 3 days in a row`
`01:36.05`	`End`	`we never win`
`01:36.13`	`Nom-`	`so it really took me 6 days to get my spellblade :(`
`01:36.17`	`Shadowed`	`not odd for nightfall, horde win about 95-99% of the time`
`01:36.29`	`End`	`I've won maybe two games`
`01:36.31`	`End`	`in AV`
`01:36.35`	`Nom-`	`orly?`
`01:36.37`	`End`	`actually, I lie`
`01:36.42`	`End`	`it's more like 10`
`01:36.49`	`Nom-`	`I've got more losses in av than i can count using pixels on a screen :P`
`01:36.54`	`End`	`out of 80ish`
`01:37.05`	`Nom-`	`and fewer wins than i have limbs`
`01:37.24`	`Shadowed`	`Reallllly AV isn't about winning`
`01:37.33`	`End`	`I had a lot of wins against premade alliance groups as a pug though`
`01:37.43`	`Shadowed`	`It's about quick games and good bonus honor, Alliance even when they do win are pretty bad at pulling off good bonus honor since they never guard anything`
`01:37.44`	`End`	`which is silly, considering how well geared some of them were :P`
`01:38.22`	`End`	`(I'd hope they'd have a sense of coordination, because it'd be unusual if they got that far pve without vent...)`
`01:38.25`	`End`	`(...or something...)`
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`01:38.34`	`Nom-`	`unfortunately our battlegroup is some of the oldest servers`
`01:38.42`	`Shadowed`	`Nom-: Oh? what battlegroup`
`01:38.55`	`Nom-`	`so we're almost always up against t2/t3 premades in AV`
`01:39.08`	`End`	`I still refer to my battlegroup by number, I dunno what its name is`
`01:39.12`	`Nom-`	`I dunno the name, but they're all established serbvers`
`01:39.29`	`Shadowed`	`We got 4 day one servers, and like 7 servers that haven't done much past BWL`
`01:39.30`	`End`	`I'm in battlegroup 1, aka some warlock spell or something`
`01:39.41`	`Shadowed`	`it gets boring when you out gear your opponents horribly :/`
`01:40.16`	`Nom-`	`Cyclone battlegroup`
`01:40.17`	`Nom-`	`There you go`
`01:40.39`	`Nom-`	`Which based on the order of the page, is battlegroup 2`
`01:42.39`	`End`	`The order changed I think`
`01:42.50`	`Shadowed`	`pretty sure they kept the order the same`
`01:43.17`	`Shadowed`	`the page seems to be hidden`
`01:43.36`	`Shadowed`	`aha there it is`
`01:44.02`	`Shadowed`	`Ah you're right it is, Nightfall was BG10, we'd be BG4 according to that`
`01:44.18`	`End`	`yeah, I was in BG1`
`01:44.24`	`End`	`now it looks like BG6`
`01:45.03`	`End`	`plus, I googled "Battlegroup 1", and found a forum dedicated to my battlegroup with posters from realms from my battlegroup`
`01:45.07`	`End`	`I had to make sure :P`
`01:45.16`	`Shadowed`	`They added offical forums`
`01:45.24`	`End`	`didn't know that`
`01:45.35`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Yesterday`
`01:45.53`	`Shadowed`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/child-forum.html?forumId=69357`
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`01:59.16`	`obelus`	`what's "focus frame"?`
`02:00.20`	`End`	`depends on the context probably`
`02:00.31`	`obelus`	`in x-perl`
`02:00.38`	`obelus`	`i can't figure out what frame that refers to`
`02:00.48`	`JoshBorke`	`your focus unit`
`02:01.03`	`obelus`	`but what is that? it's not target`
`02:01.12`	`JoshBorke`	`think of it as a second target`
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`02:02.20`	`End`	`use /focus to set it`
`02:02.24`	`obelus`	`target's target?`
`02:02.33`	`End`	`it's not tied to another unit`
`02:02.35`	`JoshBorke`	`no, a second target`
`02:02.39`	`obelus`	`hmm`
`02:02.39`	`End`	`it's like another target`
`02:02.50`	`obelus`	`so you're not attacking it but you can see health, etc.`
`02:02.52`	`JoshBorke`	`target's target is not a second target, it's your target's target`
`02:02.55`	`End`	`here's an example how it would be useful:`
`02:02.55`	`JoshBorke`	`yes`
`02:03.02`	`obelus`	`how do you select it then?`
`02:03.05`	`Gngsk`	`focus is a passive target`
`02:03.09`	`Gngsk`	`obelus, there's keybindings`
`02:03.14`	`End`	`let's say you are playing some class with a CC...you use your CC on the focus, and damage on the target`
`02:03.23`	`End`	`that way you can keep track of two units`
`02:03.27`	`obelus`	`no kidding`
`02:03.32`	`JoshBorke`	`no kidding`
`02:03.47`	`JoshBorke`	`i'd say it's one of the most underused, under talked about, best feature of wow 2.0`
`02:03.48`	`End`	`it wouldn't be as useful for a tank I guess`
`02:04.13`	`obelus`	`ahh ok it's 2.0`
`02:04.14`	`End`	`but it's very useful for those who have to "multitask" targets in a fight`
`02:04.19`	`obelus`	`i haven't played at all since the patch`
`02:04.24`	`obelus`	`i didn't put 2+2 together`
`02:04.40`	`Gngsk`	`2+2=need to sunder 1 more time`
`02:04.42`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, it's wow 2.0`
`02:04.45`	`Gngsk`	`that put it in perspective?`
`02:04.48`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`02:05.15`	`obelus`	`i don't get it, so i suppose not =)`
`02:08.31`	`obelus`	`nor can i find keybindings for it in the default ui`
`02:08.56`	`End`	`there's a /focus`
`02:09.04`	`End`	`I would have expect keybindings`
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`02:12.29`	`End`	`arg, I got rid of the wrong copy of gimp apparently`
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`02:17.34`	`Arc__`	`hi`
`02:18.40`	`Cairenn`	`bye`
`02:19.40`	`End`	`lol`
`02:20.22`	`Cairenn`	`not very nice, get me all excited that there's someone new to say "hi" to and then log out before I get the chance ...`
`02:20.37`	`JoshBorke`	`HI Cairenn!`
`02:20.42`	`JoshBorke`	`purl, hug Cairenn`
`02:20.45`	`purl`	`ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn`
`02:20.45`	`Cairenn`	`oh yay!`
`02:20.47`	`Cairenn`	`hi JoshBorke`
`02:21.03`	`JoshBorke`	`:-)`
`02:21.41`	`Cairenn`	`hate to break it to you guys, but you are unfortunately stuck with me again, your vacation is over`
`02:22.20`	`Cairenn`	`daughter's computer is finally fixed, hubby flew back to the States today - back to status quo around here`
`02:24.03`	`kahdgarxi`	`so let me get this straight`
`02:24.05`	`nymbia`	`damn, party's over`
`02:24.10`	`nymbia`	`welcome back Cairenn ;)`
`02:24.14`	`kahdgarxi`	`you have a husband, a daughter, and run wowinterface.com...?`
`02:24.16`	`kahdgarxi`	`do you sleep?`
`02:24.33`	`Cairenn`	`and eqinterface, and eq2interface and vginterface`
`02:25.05`	`Cairenn`	`and posting on various official forums, and running the channel(s) and ...`
`02:26.19`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, i don't see how she gets things approved on wowi so fast`
`02:26.42`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Website gremlins`
`02:27.16`	`Cairenn`	`sekret`
`02:27.36`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Cairenn's just a figurehead, the gremlins work in a sweatshop at ige hq, don't you know anything, gosh`
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`02:28.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`sorry about that spam, btw`
`02:28.13`	`End`	`lol`
`02:28.22`	`Cairenn`	`ROFL, what the HELL was that?`
`02:28.28`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hahaha`
`02:28.37`	`End`	`boggle?`
`02:28.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`slap me end`
`02:29.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and you shall know`
`02:29.29`	`kahdgarxi`	`rofl`
`02:29.31`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`02:29.41`	`Cairenn`	`bloody hard on the eyes, that was for sure`
`02:29.44`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`it's leftover from slap battles in years past`
`02:30.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i occasionally turn on my "return fire" script, go into an empty channel, and slap Mr_Rabies from Mr_Rabies2 and just watch them fight`
`02:30.24`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm so easily amused`
`02:30.32`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`02:30.56`	`Malivil`	`lol`
`02:31.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`cause my slap is randomized`
`02:31.47`	`Tem`	`I'm not amused`
`02:32.09`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`>:\|`
`02:33.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`dammit i want bc to hit so i can make my blood elf rogue`
`02:33.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`named Tokiwartooth`
`02:34.31`	`Cairenn`	`o.O`
`02:34.32`	`Cairenn`	`okay`
`02:34.43`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`watch metalocalypse and you will understand`
`02:34.52`	`kahdgarxi`	`i'm making a BE rogue named Charsi`
`02:34.56`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`heh`
`02:35.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`everyone will be asking you to imbue their crap`
`02:36.41`	`End`	`hmm`
`02:36.59`	`End`	`those colors are gawdawful`
`02:37.06`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i know, aren't they`
`02:37.36`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i actually stole the colors on Mr_Rabies from some random spambot on another irc network because it was so hideous`
`02:38.02`	`kahdgarxi`	`i think i wanna be an enchanter too`
`02:39.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`My mage is named after Skwisgaar from Dethklok too`
`02:39.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=qyDC6elY3xo`
`02:39.15`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and that's why^`
`02:39.43`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`it doesn't get any more metal than killing dragons with lasers from a guitar`
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`02:54.27`	`Tuller`	`hrm, can someone get the widescreen screenshots someone posted out of the comments on bongos for me? :)`
`03:00.37`	`Cairenn`	`Tuller: which site?`
`03:00.47`	`Tuller`	`wowinterface :)`
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`03:02.54`	`Cairenn`	`fixing it`
`03:03.13`	`Tuller`	`thank you`
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`03:04.55`	`xlvii`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:04.57`	`xlvii`	`I'm Horde.`
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`03:06.45`	`Tem`	`run there the first time`
`03:06.50`	`Tem`	`and fly afterwards`
`03:08.00`	`xlvii`	`Yeah`
`03:08.03`	`xlvii`	`But where do I run to?`
`03:08.09`	`xlvii`	`I ran to Darkshire, and now I'm lost.`
`03:08.10`	`xlvii`	`>_>`
`03:08.31`	`xlvii`	`I'm assuming I can't run through`
`03:08.35`	`xlvii`	`Deadwind Pass, so`
`03:09.16`	`Malivil`	`Darkshire...`
`03:09.22`	`Malivil`	`Easiest way?`
`03:09.29`	`Malivil`	`Go to Org`
`03:09.46`	`Malivil`	`Wait`
`03:10.12`	`Malivil`	`first, does the engineering goblin in Org still warp to Gnomeregan?`
`03:10.24`	`End`	`you must go through deadwind pass`
`03:10.29`	`Tem`	`Run through deadwind pass`
`03:10.36`	`End`	`unless you want to swim around the entire continant that is`
`03:10.36`	`Tem`	`there's no mobs`
`03:10.44`	`Tem`	`teehee`
`03:10.49`	`Malivil`	`Oh wait`
`03:10.52`	`T0nyD`	`if you see mobs in DW pass, you took a wrong turn`
`03:10.58`	`Malivil`	`Im thinking of the wrong place, dont listen to me`
`03:10.58`	`Malivil`	`lol`
`03:11.09`	`Malivil`	`Go straight east`
`03:12.06`	`Cairenn`	`Tuller: better?`
`03:12.39`	`Tuller`	`yes, much :)`
`03:12.43`	`Tuller`	`thanks again`
`03:12.48`	`Cairenn`	`you're welcome`
`03:13.11`	`Cairenn`	`wish people would learn to love thumbnails`
`03:13.27`	`Cairenn`	`post the tiny little image and make it a link to the full sized version`
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`03:14.53`	`Cairenn`	`hey Iriel`
`03:16.06`	`Iriel`	`Hi Cairenn, how's the frozen north?`
`03:16.12`	`Cairenn`	`thawed`
`03:16.17`	`Cairenn`	`hasn't frozen yet`
`03:16.22`	`Iriel`	`In theory I get heat tomorrow`
`03:16.37`	`Iriel`	`(Though we've heard that before, so we'll see if they figured out a crane that'd fit)`
`03:16.38`	`Cairenn`	`this winter has been absolutely amazing so far, and I am not (repeat NOT) complaining`
`03:17.04`	`Cairenn`	`your furnace still isn't fixed? ewww`
`03:17.36`	`Tem`	`heh, my heater isn't working either`
`03:17.50`	`Tem`	`not a problem though seeing as how winter is retarded down here`
`03:18.53`	`Tain`	`Yeah I have barely turned my heat on at all this year except a couple of days.`
`03:19.24`	`Tain`	`It's a far cry from chopping wood to light the woodstove to heat the house when I was a kid.`
`03:19.24`	`Iriel`	`The problem is that it's on the roof, and they couldn't get the first crane up my driveway`
`03:19.42`	`Cairenn`	`fun fun`
`03:20.06`	`kahdgarxi`	`Tain - I did that too. :)`
`03:20.20`	`Cairenn`	`Tain: my furnace has been running, but it hasn't yet been bitterly cold and we've still got no snow to speak of`
`03:20.23`	`Tain`	`We had a coal stove a couple of years. Now that was luxury!`
`03:21.06`	`Guillotine`	`we've had no snow/rain, but horrible wind. had a couple trees on my street blown over and our gate was blown off its hinges`
`03:21.06`	`Cairenn`	`the "fun fun" was to you, Iriel`
`03:21.07`	`kahdgarxi`	`although, i kinda miss warming myself by the stove`
`03:21.25`	`Tain`	`haha I know kahdgarxi. There was something about it.`
`03:21.34`	`End`	`winter so far for me has been cold and snowy`
`03:21.38`	`End`	`mostly snowy though`
`03:21.51`	`kahdgarxi`	`I live in Phoenix`
`03:21.59`	`kahdgarxi`	`what's this 'snow' you speak of?`
`03:22.18`	`End`	`the stuff that appears to only exist in Colorado`
`03:22.31`	`Tain`	`What's funny is I really hate the snow (besides looking out the window at how lovely it looks) but I don't mind cold at all.`
`03:22.41`	`Cairenn`	`heh, yeah, Colorado has been getting absolutely hammered this year`
`03:22.54`	`End`	`today was interesting, with the wind`
`03:22.58`	`kahdgarxi`	`ding 59 :)`
`03:23.06`	`Cairenn`	`grats kahdgarxi`
`03:23.17`	`kahdgarxi`	`ty :)`
`03:23.21`	`Tain`	`No 59 is just the temperature. ;)`
`03:23.23`	`cladhaire`	`There's no snow.`
`03:23.24`	`cladhaire`	`here.`
`03:23.25`	`Cairenn`	`snow I don't mind, but I absolutely loathe the cold and the dark and the slippery roads`
`03:23.31`	`cladhaire`	`and that.. is wrong.`
`03:23.35`	`kahdgarxi`	`Tain - more like 70 :P`
`03:23.37`	`Cairenn`	`cladhaire: tell me about it`
`03:23.51`	`kahdgarxi`	`wait`
`03:23.52`	`kahdgarxi`	`nevermind`
`03:23.54`	`kahdgarxi`	`61`
`03:23.55`	`kahdgarxi`	`>.>`
`03:23.58`	`Cairenn`	`cladhaire: same thing here as with you, and it's completely bizarre`
`03:23.58`	`End`	`lol`
`03:24.11`	`Tain`	`Especially now that I don't have my Jeep anymore, I got used to driving in the snow with it. Spoiled even.`
`03:24.24`	`cladhaire`	`It was 60.. like.. a week ago.`
`03:24.27`	`cladhaire`	`in Syracuse.`
`03:24.34`	`cladhaire`	`where we get 160 inches of snow a season`
`03:25.05`	`Tuller`	`it was 80 here two days ago`
`03:25.15`	`Tain`	`It was 70 where I am this past Saturday.`
`03:27.04`	`kahdgarxi`	`man, borelgore is so big`
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`03:30.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`but hes a panzy`
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`03:31.18`	`kahdgarxi`	`regardless`
`03:31.19`	`kahdgarxi`	`he's huge`
`03:32.06`	`xlvii`	`It's 34 degress celsius in Brisbane, Australia today.`
`03:32.10`	`xlvii`	`Ding -- 300 Alchemy!`
`03:32.14`	`kahdgarxi`	`grats!`
`03:32.22`	`kahdgarxi`	`i'm so bad with celsius ><`
`03:32.25`	`TC_Sleeping`	`you know, just joining the channel to "he's huge" is....odd to say the least`
`03:32.33`	`TC_Sleeping`	`s/to/to see/`
`03:32.36`	`kahdgarxi`	`~google 34 cel in fahr`
`03:32.56`	`kahdgarxi`	`purl, stop being broken`
`03:33.02`	`purl`	`ACTION leaps to his feet and stops being broken`
`03:36.48`	`kahdgarxi`	`purl, wtf`
`03:38.22`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`~moo`
`03:38.23`	`purl`	`mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/`
`03:38.58`	`Zicon`	`purl, you scare me.`
`03:55.58`	`Cairenn`	`lol http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63166610&sid=1`
`03:56.40`	`SP\|Sorren`	`ooo, subtle`
`03:56.45`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i dont think he'll understand ;(`
`03:58.29`	`Tain`	`hah hah that's one of the best responses I've seen in a long, long time.`
`03:58.33`	`Cairenn`	`probably not, but I still like it`
`04:02.38`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`04:02.42`	`cladhaire`	`night all`
`04:02.51`	`Cairenn`	`night clad\|sleep, sweet dreams`
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`04:07.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`erm, is the website down?`
`04:08.16`	`Cairenn`	`which one? there are a lot of websites`
`04:08.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`WoWI ;)`
`04:08.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`"the" for this channel`
`04:08.32`	`Cairenn`	`fine for me`
`04:08.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hmm`
`04:09.02`	`End`	`Cairenn: the correct answer is worksforme`
`04:09.06`	`End`	`all one word`
`04:09.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`heh`
`04:09.24`	`Cairenn`	`ah, okay, thanks for letting me know, I'll make note of that for future reference`
`04:09.28`	`End`	`:)`
`04:09.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`erm`
`04:09.50`	`End`	`I think that's under the portal bug tracker even :P`
`04:09.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`the DNS server isn't returning and DNS records..`
`04:10.19`	`ScytheBlade1`	`;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0`
`04:10.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`emphasis "ANSWER: 0"`
`04:10.26`	`End`	`try 65.98.55.102`
`04:10.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`yay`
`04:11.08`	`Cairenn`	`where were you trying to access?`
`04:11.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I was about to upload yet another small mod of mine`
`04:11.27`	`End`	`ScytheBlade1 needs a non-lame dns`
`04:11.34`	`ScytheBlade1`	`End: I run my own, kthx ;)`
`04:11.41`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ`
`04:11.44`	`End`	`well, then your dns isn't manly enough`
`04:12.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`awesome, I can't login via IP because it sets the cookie to the domain name (as it should, though)`
`04:12.38`	`End`	`lol`
`04:13.42`	`Cairenn`	`odd`
`04:14.19`	`End`	`ScytheBlade1: you could put it in your hosts file maybe?`
`04:14.29`	`End`	`(at least, for now)`
`04:15.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`End, I restarted my DNS server... seemed to fix it`
`04:15.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Silly named`
`04:15.58`	`End`	`silly indeed`
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`04:21.31`	`End`	`bah silly world server`
`04:22.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Cairenn...`
`04:22.19`	`Cairenn`	`ScytheBlade1 ...`
`04:22.31`	`End`	`Your face...`
`04:22.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Do the names Caiden Steelheart, Forlorn, Ziljk, Caiden, Rixtie, etc. ring a bell?`
`04:22.51`	`Cairenn`	`ZOMG!`
`04:22.55`	`End`	`Did you say Caiden twice?`
`04:23.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Possibly, they were just given to me`
`04:23.12`	`Cairenn`	`umm, yeah, just a little ...`
`04:23.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`haha`
`04:23.20`	`Cairenn`	`why?`
`04:23.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That's quite awesome`
`04:23.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'm talking with them all ;)`
`04:23.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Doomhammer, alliance side`
`04:23.41`	`Cairenn`	`cool`
`04:23.45`	`Cairenn`	`say hi from me!`
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`04:23.55`	`Cairenn`	`how the hell did that come up?`
`04:24.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I mentioned WoWI`
`04:24.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They asked if you still ran it`
`04:24.12`	`Cairenn`	`:)`
`04:24.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I said I was talking with you at the moment, and they all wtf'd`
`04:24.31`	`Cairenn`	`tell them to get their asses by the site to say hi :p`
`04:24.31`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`04:24.36`	`Cairenn`	`hi ckknight :)`
`04:24.41`	KaoS`	`patch tomorrow ?`
`04:25.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Message relayed ;)`
`04:25.03`	`Cairenn`	KaoS`: nod
`04:25.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`04:25.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Pics from Blizzcon? ;)`
`04:25.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I hear you're a cutie ;)`
`04:25.43`	KaoS`	`2.0.3 ?`
`04:25.56`	`Cairenn`	`?`
`04:26.09`	`Cairenn`	`I pulled them all back off the site :p`
`04:26.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`aww`
`04:27.21`	`kahdgarxi`	`what's this? 2.0.3 tomorrow?`
`04:27.27`	`Cairenn`	`no`
`04:27.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Anyways, they all say hi right back`
`04:27.35`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I told them to post in the forums, so eh`
`04:27.39`	`Cairenn`	`ScytheBlade1: :)`
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`04:28.16`	`Cairenn`	`at least, I don't believe so`
`04:29.18`	`kahdgarxi`	`you think they'll launch it along side the expansion?`
`04:29.21`	`kahdgarxi`	`i'm sure that's gonna be fun`
`04:29.36`	`kahdgarxi`	`next tuesday is going to be insane`
`04:30.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Cairenn, I'll guilt trip them until they post. ;)`
`04:31.01`	`Cairenn`	`ScytheBlade1: hehehe, no worries`
`04:31.16`	`Cairenn`	`they don't have to`
`04:31.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Just... talk about random, lol`
`04:31.20`	`Cairenn`	`but I'd love to hear from them`
`04:31.22`	`Cairenn`	`yeah`
`04:31.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`cough`
`04:31.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<ScytheBlade1> Doomhammer, alliance side`
`04:31.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`cough`
`04:32.12`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`04:32.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They play in the 20-29 twinks a lot`
`04:33.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`(Though they're currently in Naxx)`
`04:35.59`	`Cairenn`	`noted`
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`04:42.19`	`Nom-`	`WTB TBC PREORDER BOXEN`
`04:42.35`	`Nom-`	`Anyone know if the boxen can be picked up earlier than tuesday?`
`04:43.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`One would hope`
`04:43.03`	`Nom-`	`coz im just wondering how im going to get down the the computer store on a tuesday to pick up my preorder :(`
`04:43.14`	`Nom-`	`sickie maybe :/`
`04:43.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I preordered at my local gamestop (and we have 6 close by) months ago`
`04:43.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And I was preorder #1312`
`04:43.26`	`Nom-`	`probably not a good idea after just having 3 weeks off`
`04:43.56`	`kahdgarxi`	`if i call in sick again before november i get written up ><`
`04:44.00`	`Nom-`	`The only stores that I could pre-order from are open 9 - 5:30`
`04:44.03`	`Nom-`	`and guess what times I work`
`04:44.11`	`kahdgarxi`	`9-5:30?`
`04:44.20`	`Nom-`	`Spot on`
`04:45.14`	`kahdgarxi`	`that sucks`
`04:45.24`	`Thunder_Child`	`some how i doubt it's really worth it to go to all the trouble to get it on the first day`
`04:45.26`	`kahdgarxi`	`i get off at 3 that day`
`04:45.29`	`kahdgarxi`	`i'll pick you up one`
`04:45.54`	`kahdgarxi`	`and take it to... wherever you live :p`
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`04:46.45`	`Nom-`	`Well, worst case i'll go in late on Wednesday`
`04:46.52`	`Nom-`	`Maintenance for me is on Tuesday night anywho`
`04:47.20`	`Nom-`	`Starts at about 9:00pm local time, goes until about 2-3:00am`
`04:47.52`	`Nom-`	`I'd prefer to get it this Saturday however`
`04:48.04`	`Nom-`	`So I don't have to try and get into the store during business hours`
`04:58.03`	`Guillotine`	`best macro ever. I just made 1g in donations by posting this in barrens chat:`
`04:58.04`	`Guillotine`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:00.03`	`Nom-`	`and what does it do?`
`05:00.09`	`Tem`	`Guillotine, false positives ftl`
`05:00.24`	`Cairenn`	`I'm presuming it hides them`
`05:00.39`	`Tem`	`so, I saw this woodchuck the other day and it scared the hell out of mrs. norris.`
`05:00.44`	`Guillotine`	`Nom-: read it :P. Replaces anything containing "chuck" or "norris" with "<Chuck Norris Joke>"`
`05:00.53`	`Nom-`	`oh, i see`
`05:01.16`	`Nom-`	`less spam :P`
`05:01.16`	`Tem`	`oh, that's an or`
`05:01.16`	`Tem`	`well, even more false positives`
`05:01.30`	`Guillotine`	`Tem: how many times do you see "chuck" or "norris" thats not a chuck norris joke?`
`05:01.43`	`Guillotine`	`at least in the barrens`
`05:01.48`	`Tem`	`Guillotine, there are LOTS of words that contain "chuck"`
`05:01.52`	`Cairenn`	`Guillotine: actually, I see, and use, "chuck" plenty`
`05:01.57`	`Tem`	`me too`
`05:02.11`	`Nom-`	`do a search for " chuck " instead maybe ?`
`05:02.11`	`Cairenn`	`"I'm going to chuck this quest" "I'm going to chuck this old [whatever]"`
`05:02.21`	`Thunder_Child`	`well stop throwing things, and you wont have to use chuck`
`05:02.27`	`End`	`or just check for chuck and norris`
`05:02.33`	`Nom-`	`change the or to an and instead`
`05:02.34`	`Nom-`	`check`
`05:02.38`	`Nom-`	`yah`
`05:02.42`	`Guillotine`	`End: but usually people just refer to it as "chuck"`
`05:02.58`	`End`	`not that I've seen`
`05:03.17`	`chuckg_`	`You just pinged my name like 14 times.`
`05:03.18`	`chuckg_`	`Christ.`
`05:03.19`	`chuckg_`	`:\|`
`05:03.23`	`Tem`	`lol`
`05:03.28`	`End`	`Chuck LOL doesn't have the same sort of meaning like Chuck Norris LOL`
`05:03.31`	`chuckg_`	`I thought my dog died.`
`05:03.31`	`Cairenn`	`I'm female, I'm supposed to throw things :p`
`05:03.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`yes, then "throw" them...dont "chuck" them`
`05:04.09`	`Cairenn`	`heh`
`05:04.19`	`End`	`although, you think that's bad, my name is worse`
`05:04.20`	`Cairenn`	`and what about if you want to upchuck?`
`05:04.29`	`End`	`everytime someone pastes a bit of lua, I notice`
`05:04.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`you prolly wont be typing it out`
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`05:05.05`	`End`	`what about chuck roast?`
`05:05.19`	`norgs`	`so who was "Guildmojo"?`
`05:05.26`	`Tem`	`function() print"lawlspam" end`
`05:05.43`	`End`	`norgs: is that like finding Waldo?`
`05:05.48`	`norgs`	`somewhat`
`05:05.53`	`Guillotine`	`well, its the best I could do with 255 char limit in macros :P and I just run a macro to reverse it when I leave barrens`
`05:05.53`	`Tem`	`End, you could just use the whole name?`
`05:06.02`	`End`	`Tem: actually, it has to be on the beginning of the line`
`05:06.13`	`End`	`(thank god)`
`05:06.58`	`Thunder_Child`	`well if it just scans general chat it should work better`
`05:07.16`	`Thunder_Child`	`most of the other stuff will be said in guild/pary/whisp chat`
`05:08.04`	`Tem`	`I haven't preordered`
`05:08.08`	`End`	`Guillotine: your variable names are far too long`
`05:08.11`	`Thunder_Child`	`part*`
`05:08.11`	`End`	`I disapprove!`
`05:08.14`	`Thunder_Child`	`party*`
`05:08.14`	`Tem`	`I haven't even LOOKED at how I'm gonna buy it`
`05:08.24`	`End`	`I'm in the same boat as Tem`
`05:08.37`	`Tem`	`I spose I'm waiting for blizzard to send me a free copy`
`05:08.37`	`Guillotine`	`End: meh. just copied it from one of my addons and replaced "SKP" with "CN"`
`05:08.55`	`End`	`Guillotine: :P`
`05:09.54`	`End`	`(I have a sneaky feeling I might not even try to buy a copy the day it comes out)`
`05:10.11`	`End`	`(and my account expires tomorrow, and I'm not renewing until I get the xpac)`
`05:10.51`	`End`	`hmm, come to think of it, I do have a lot of trial keys`
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`05:40.38`	`InterSlayer`	`Anyone know how to serialize/deserialize AceOO objects? :P`
`05:41.27`	`Cairenn`	`InterSlayer: might have better luck asking that in #wowace`
`05:42.17`	`InterSlayer`	`oh right, thanks`
`05:42.27`	`Cairenn`	`welcome :)`
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`06:25.36`	`Cairenn`	`night all`
`06:29.11`	`[Cu]Werik`	`nn Cairenn\|afk`
`06:29.26`	`Guillotine`	`I'm off to bed. gn all :)`
`06:34.56`	`Tierrie`	`when you set metatable to table1, then table2 = table1, because its by reference, table2 has table1's metatable too right?`
`06:34.59`	`Tierrie`	`hmm i'll go test it`
`06:37.03`	`Tierrie`	`answer: yes`
`06:37.19`	`InterSlayer`	`Hooray!`
`06:37.33`	`InterSlayer`	`i always wondered about that, too :P`
`06:37.42`	`Nom-`	`Why wouldn't it?`
`06:38.30`	`Nom-`	`Many languages work by pointer rather than value`
`06:38.44`	`Nom-`	`Otherwise you'd be using obscene amounts of memory to pass data around`
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`06:39.37`	`Nom-`	`a = {} ; b = a ; c = b ; c will still point to the same bit of memory as a`
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`07:04.41`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`so what should i replace leatherworking with come bc?`
`07:04.55`	`InterSlayer`	`In beta, there were hardly any leatherworkers.`
`07:05.05`	`InterSlayer`	`on the pvp server anyway =p`
`07:05.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i have enchanting and lw and lw's gonna be even more useless in bc than now`
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`07:12.14`	`Nom-`	`no, not necessarily`
`07:12.25`	`Nom-`	`They're actually putting some decent 60-70 gear into the professions from what i've seen`
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`07:13.31`	`Nom-`	`http://www.thottbot.com/beta?t=Leatherworking`
`07:13.39`	`Nom-`	`There's some decent stuff showing up down the bottom :)`
`07:13.59`	`Nom-`	`blue FR sets with lots of stamina for instance`
`07:14.43`	`Nom-`	`10% mount speed trinket`
`07:14.47`	`Nom-`	`Can be made by leatherworkers`
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`07:15.05`	`Nom-`	`mounts are going to go so damn fast now`
`07:15.14`	`Nom-`	`paladin aura = 120% or more if it stakcs with trinkets`
`07:15.29`	`Nom-`	`even better`
`07:15.33`	`[Cu]Werik`	`120% is the max you can get`
`07:15.37`	`Nom-`	`you got spell armor kits`
`07:15.39`	`[Cu]Werik`	`it doesnt stack`
`07:15.45`	`Nom-`	`aww :~(`
`07:15.47`	`Nom-`	`oh well`
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`07:15.59`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Are regular expressions slow?:-)`
`07:16.09`	`Nom-`	`omg`
`07:16.29`	`Nom-`	`Drums of Restoration - restores 750 health and mana to all nearby party members over 15 seconds 2 min cooldown`
`07:16.32`	`Nom-`	`that's ungodly`
`07:16.38`	`Tem`	`[Cu]Werik, compared to what?`
`07:16.50`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Compared to basic string manipulation methods`
`07:16.57`	`[Cu]Werik`	`like substring`
`07:17.26`	`Tem`	`well yeah`
`07:17.37`	`Tem`	`but it shouldn't matter`
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`07:20.01`	`Kirov_`	`On average, a properly formed string.match is faster than a string.sub`
`07:21.15`	`[Cu]Werik`	`ookay`
`07:21.27`	`Nom-`	`omg i think i just crapped my pants :D`
`07:21.31`	`Nom-`	`you can enchant rings in tbc`
`07:21.42`	`[Cu]Werik`	`only for yourself`
`07:22.05`	`Nom-`	`guess who just finished grinding enchanter :D`
`07:23.45`	`Nom-`	`well i'm 285`
`07:23.47`	`Nom-`	`but close enough :P`
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`07:25.08`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that arcanite rod is a bitch`
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`07:26.15`	`Nom-`	`not really`
`07:26.41`	`Tem`	`it's really not that bad when your alt is an alchemist`
`07:26.47`	`Tem`	`and your other alt is a miner`
`07:27.01`	`Nom-`	`Golden Pearl, ok got one of those farming because i wanted the spell damage enchant anyway`
`07:27.08`	`Nom-`	`Illusion Dust isn't that hard to get`
`07:27.15`	`Nom-`	`Greater Eternal Essense, again`
`07:27.25`	`Nom-`	`Large Brilliant Shard`
`07:27.26`	`Nom-`	`Not that hard`
`07:27.51`	`Tem`	`the golden pearl is definately the hardest part`
`07:27.56`	`Tem`	`holy crap.. it's 1:30`
`07:28.08`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i got 2 golden pearls for like 10g`
`07:28.14`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`!!`
`07:28.20`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`They were 30g each last I saw`
`07:28.41`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`this was about a year ago, and servers are always widely different`
`07:29.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'd say the hardest thing is getting 3 arcanite, honestly`
`07:30.45`	`Nom-`	`huh?`
`07:30.50`	`Nom-`	`3 arcanite what?`
`07:31.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`bars`
`07:31.10`	`Nom-`	`oh pfft`
`07:31.14`	`Nom-`	`just buy the arcanite rod off the ah`
`07:31.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?item=16206#00z`
`07:31.33`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`the bars go for about 30-40g a piece for mee`
`07:31.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`on my server`
`07:32.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`never any arcanite rods on the AH`
`07:32.09`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`cause they're low demand`
`07:32.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`whereas the bars themselves are super high demand`
`07:33.59`	`Nom-`	`bah i've got mine sorted from my guild anyway`
`07:34.02`	`Nom-`	`so i'm lucky :)`
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`07:35.28`	`Nom-`	`hmm fun`
`07:35.36`	`Nom-`	`Need to find a perl library for doing pretty graphs`
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`07:44.01`	`Neebler`	`http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2006/10/less_than_three.html`
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`07:57.39`	`Nom-`	`lolol`
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`08:05.51`	`Kirov`	`Is a sort time for 60000 items in 10 seconds and 70kb/s increasing rate better or worse than a 3 second sort with a 800kb/s increasing rate`
`08:06.19`	`Kirov`	`(in either case, the data gets mostly destroyed and gced after the sort)`
`08:06.25`	`Nom-`	`a 10 second sort time is always worse than a 3 second sort time`
`08:06.46`	`Kirov`	`but 70kb/s vs 800kb/s?`
`08:07.05`	`Nom-`	`What would you prefer`
`08:07.17`	`Nom-`	`1000 litres thrown at you with a fire hose, or a garden hose`
`08:07.20`	`Kirov`	`(really I'm creating one table of numbers or a table of numbers and a second table of strings, which is why it's so freakishly large)`
`08:07.41`	`Nom-`	`ok bad example, because fire hoses hurt`
`08:07.43`	`Nom-`	`but you get the idea`
`08:08.00`	`Kirov`	`heh`
`08:08.01`	`Nom-`	`you'll find it's about the same amount of memory, you're just getting it over and done with faster`
`08:08.22`	`Kirov`	`It's actually not the same amount of memory.`
`08:08.36`	`Kirov`	`All of that happens all at once.`
`08:13.09`	`Kirov`	`in one situation I'm generating 3.5 megs of table data all at once, in the other I'm generating 1`
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`08:15.44`	`Dhraga`	`morning all`
`08:16.22`	`Nom-`	`well, imho less memory is always mkore`
`08:16.23`	`Nom-`	`more`
`08:16.36`	`Nom-`	`less is more :P`
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`08:32.04`	`PProvost`	`Night all`
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`08:47.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`6days 20hrs 12mins 32secs until Burning Crusade.`
`08:47.43`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`yeeee`
`08:48.14`	`tc3driver`	`but who's counting?`
`08:49.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`my script that's who`
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`09:15.28`	`xlvii`	`How much AP should a 43 Undead Rogue have?`
`09:17.58`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`enough to easily kill things without being killed :p`
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`09:25.36`	`Kirov`	`25 is fine`
`09:25.54`	`Kirov`	`Really, as a rogue, you want to go for all int and spirit`
`09:26.27`	`Kirov`	`This has nothing to do with the fact that I'm an alliance hunter`
`09:40.48`	`Kirov`	`How would I convert a number in to a string of a constant length`
`09:41.09`	`Kirov`	`ie: 123 -> "000123" 54321 -> "054321"`
`09:41.14`	`krka`	`string.format`
`09:41.35`	`krka`	`http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.format`
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`10:36.02`	`Kirov`	`a gar!`
`10:36.44`	`Kirov`	`format("%12d", 3041*1000000) == -1253967296`
`10:36.45`	`Kirov`	`?!?!?!`
`10:48.55`	`Nom-`	`meh`
`10:49.02`	`Nom-`	`i was hoping they wouldn't take these brand new servers down`
`10:49.09`	`Nom-`	`like they were only brought online today :(`
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`10:53.14`	`bleetah`	`is 3man Ony a new record?`
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`11:02.29`	`Nom-`	`grr`
`11:02.36`	`Nom-`	`they even took down the brand new servers`
`11:02.44`	`Nom-`	`bleetah: probably, i've seen a 4man`
`11:02.54`	`Nom-`	`That's 4-man from start to finish`
`11:03.14`	`bleetah`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62537801&sid=1&pageNo=1`
`11:03.47`	`bleetah`	`warcraftmovies.com .. or ... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6963150699739071975&q=3+man+Onyxia&hl=en`
`11:04.22`	`bleetah`	`music's not vomitous crap, either`
`11:04.32`	`bleetah`	`not great, but I don't need a bucket`
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`11:06.10`	`bleetah`	`oops, 15mins in.. grab a bucket`
`11:07.25`	`xlvii`	`nom-, brand new servers?`
`11:08.10`	`Nom-`	`yeah the ones they said are online today`
`11:08.15`	`Nom-`	`like news post today on wow site`
`11:13.58`	`xlvii`	`oh..`
`11:14.01`	`xlvii`	`i can't read it`
`11:14.05`	`xlvii`	`my internet is capped >_>`
`11:21.32`	`Nom-`	`lol that's mad`
`11:21.46`	`Nom-`	`music is shite, but yeah, damn that's impressive`
`11:21.50`	`Nom-`	`new 5-man = ony`
`11:22.00`	`Nom-`	`@ level 70, i can see heaps of people starting to 5-man her :/`
`11:27.44`	`Nom-`	`Man, I think the only thing stopping a 2-man ony is that you need ranged dps lol`
`11:27.54`	`Nom-`	`that's whacked`
`11:31.22`	`Nom-`	`lol that paladin would have easily +1000 healing by the time you take into account any temporary buffs he had`
`11:31.31`	`Nom-`	`in-sane`
`11:34.33`	`bleetah`	`patch download on authentication`
`11:34.57`	`Nom-`	`That's been out for a few weeks`
`11:35.04`	`Nom-`	`well, at least a week`
`11:35.08`	`bleetah`	`nah, this is part 3`
`11:35.19`	`Nom-`	`oh you mean on ingame auth?`
`11:35.24`	`bleetah`	`yeah`
`11:35.26`	`Nom-`	`oh i see`
`11:35.33`	`Nom-`	`so this must be 2.0.3 or whatever`
`11:35.44`	`Nom-`	`hmmm`
`11:35.56`	`Nom-`	`152/159mb yay`
`11:36.05`	`bleetah`	`or just the last patch to make 2.0.1 compatible with 2.0.3`
`11:36.19`	`Nom-`	`This (presumeably) means they're ready for TBC then`
`11:36.37`	`Nom-`	`I'd say they will only patch next week if absolutely necessary`
`11:37.06`	`Nom-`	`This way they get a week to iron out any last minute ingame bugs`
`11:37.23`	`Nom-`	`Then they just flick the switch next week`
`11:38.04`	`Nom-`	`It's 2.0.3`
`11:38.09`	`Nom-`	`Just got to the patch notes`
`11:38.31`	`clad\|sleep`	`thank god`
`11:38.36`	`clad\|sleep`	`that's VERY good news.`
`11:38.59`	`Nom-`	`yay AV has a new bracket`
`11:39.02`	`Nom-`	`61-70`
`11:39.19`	`Nom-`	`Druids get a reset of talents lol`
`11:39.57`	`Nom-`	`Blessing of Might affects ranged ap on hunters`
`11:40.04`	`Nom-`	`well, just ranged ap in general`
`11:40.41`	`clad\|sleep`	`damn.. i get to respec again today>`
`11:40.42`	`clad\|sleep`	`blegh`
`11:41.02`	`Nom-`	`There's like 3 screens of changes to druids`
`11:41.21`	`clad\|sleep`	`yeah, cause they borked us in the move from beta to live`
`11:41.35`	`Nom-`	`Feline Swiftness applies dodge to bear forms now`
`11:41.38`	`Nom-`	`and is renamed nice`
`11:42.25`	`Nom-`	`Tranquility is buffed`
`11:43.03`	`Nom-`	`Rogues get a reset too :D`
`11:43.12`	`clad\|sleep`	`yeaj, we knew that`
`11:43.16`	`clad\|sleep`	`did you miss all that?`
`11:43.23`	`clad\|sleep`	`they completely screwed our talents for druids`
`11:43.23`	`Nom-`	`oh dear god, cloak of shadows is no longer a talent cry`
`11:43.26`	`clad\|sleep`	`they applied the wrong versions`
`11:43.31`	`clad\|sleep`	`Nom-: Its trainable`
`11:43.39`	`clad\|sleep`	`Nom-: and we get shadowstep now`
`11:43.42`	`Nom-`	`i know`
`11:43.48`	`Nom-`	`and it's a 1 min cooldown now`
`11:43.54`	`Nom-`	`rogue now > caster`
`11:43.58`	`clad\|sleep`	`WTFZOR`
`11:43.59`	`clad\|sleep`	`=(`
`11:44.07`	`clad\|sleep`	`Swipe has had its threat bonus multiplier removed =(`
`11:44.14`	`clad\|sleep`	`and they screwed maul too`
`11:44.16`	`clad\|sleep`	`BOOO EARNS`
`11:44.38`	`Nom-`	`muahahaha Felguard got nerfed`
`11:44.44`	`clad\|sleep`	`good`
`11:44.49`	`clad\|sleep`	`warlocks need a long line of nerfs =)`
`11:44.51`	`clad\|sleep`	`dots got nerfed too`
`11:45.13`	`clad\|sleep`	`YAY i can speak to NPC's while shapeshifted!`
`11:45.17`	`Nom-`	`not according to the warlock patch notes`
`11:45.52`	`Nom-`	`Weapon Master (Rank 2) for warriors now makes them immune to disarm`
`11:46.04`	`clad\|sleep`	`wow`
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`11:46.15`	`clad\|sleep`	`every 1 minuet rogues can drop all debuffs, and become immune to spells`
`11:46.16`	`clad\|sleep`	`awesome =)`
`11:46.27`	`Nom-`	`90% resist chance`
`11:46.31`	`Nom-`	`but yeah might as well be immune`
`11:46.41`	`clad\|sleep`	`WOOT`
`11:46.45`	`clad\|sleep`	`sap no longer breaks early`
`11:46.58`	`clad\|sleep`	`... holy.. shit.`
`11:47.08`	`clad\|sleep`	`combo points won't be reset until you add a combo point to anther target`
`11:47.09`	`Nom-`	`omg Crusader/Icy/Lifesteal doesn't work as well for users > 60`
`11:47.55`	`bleetah`	`Added Ranged and Spell stats as a display option for the G15 keyboard. << woot`
`11:48.00`	`Nom-`	`hahah`
`11:48.09`	`Nom-`	`the specialisations in leatherworking and blacksmithing are gone`
`11:48.12`	`Nom-`	`They're all trainable now`
`11:48.15`	`clad\|sleep`	`they nerfeddrui'd idols.`
`11:48.18`	`clad\|sleep`	`WHATS?!`
`11:48.31`	`Nom-`	`The specializations now allow you to make some unique bop items`
`11:48.45`	`Nom-`	`But all the previous schematics are trainable`
`11:48.59`	`clad\|sleep`	`whoa.`
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`11:49.03`	`clad\|sleep`	`horrible nerf to devilsaurtooth =(`
`11:49.24`	`clad\|sleep`	`=( =(`
`11:49.28`	`clad\|sleep`	`Transcendence got nerfed`
`11:49.30`	`JoshBorke`	`morning clad\|sleep`
`11:49.30`	`clad\|sleep`	`along with Stormrage.`
`11:49.39`	`clad\|sleep`	`no longer 15% mana regen while casting, only 20 mana per second =( =( =(`
`11:49.43`	`clad\|sleep`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:49.53`	`JoshBorke`	`ouch, yea that is`
`11:49.59`	`clad\|sleep`	`thats...`
`11:50.04`	`Nom-`	`deepends`
`11:50.15`	`Nom-`	`if you didn't have much spirit, that could be a buff`
`11:50.48`	`clad\|sleep`	`whhoa whoa`
`11:50.54`	`clad\|sleep`	`blizz raid UI now can pull out a pet window.`
`11:51.00`	`clad\|sleep`	`bastards, using secure code =(`
`11:51.02`	`Nom-`	`yep, saw that`
`11:51.48`	`Nom-`	`some battleground rewards have been reduced in cost`
`11:51.56`	`bleetah`	`"Second Wind" will no longer improperly proc off of a mob's daze. < lol`
`11:51.57`	`Nom-`	`ie. all the 60 stuff is now dirt cheap :P`
`11:52.10`	`clad\|sleep`	`blzzard raid UI are no longer secure unit buttons.`
`11:52.19`	`clad\|sleep`	`Nom-: WHAT?`
`11:52.38`	`clad\|sleep`	`hahah`
`11:52.45`	`clad\|sleep`	`tree of life can now warstomp and swim`
`11:52.47`	`Nom-`	`I dunno, can't get in to check`
`11:52.58`	`Nom-`	`But yeah, they've reduced the battleground rewards apaprently`
`11:53.03`	`clad\|sleep`	`get on beta`
`11:53.03`	`clad\|sleep`	`lol`
`11:53.18`	`Nom-`	`I don't have beta :(`
`11:53.31`	`bleetah`	`me either`
`11:53.31`	`clad\|sleep`	`where was that change listed?`
`11:53.32`	`JoshBorke`	`i can get on beta`
`11:53.43`	`JoshBorke`	`or, i should check rather`
`11:53.50`	`clad\|sleep`	`i am as well`
`11:53.52`	`Nom-`	`under bugs of all places`
`11:54.08`	`Nom-`	`item 12 under bugs`
`11:54.14`	`JoshBorke`	`hm`
`11:54.19`	`JoshBorke`	`haven't updated in a while...`
`11:54.33`	`JoshBorke`	`341 MB patch incoming...`
`11:54.47`	`clad\|sleep`	`i'm all patched on beta now with 2.0.3`
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`11:54.52`	`clad\|sleep`	`was a small patch`
`11:55.19`	`Nom-`	`290-something for me`
`11:55.26`	`Nom-`	`You must be getting 2.0.1, JoshBorke`
`11:55.37`	`clad\|sleep`	`6299 is the latest beta push`
`11:55.39`	`JoshBorke`	`downloading WoW-2.0.3`
`11:56.19`	`bleetah`	`live's up to 6299`
`11:56.22`	`Nom-`	`and ptr is down too it seems cry`
`11:56.27`	`Nom-`	`where am i going to get my wow fix ?`
`11:57.06`	`Nom-`	`Level 70 paladin skills ftw`
`11:57.08`	`JoshBorke`	`i wonder...multiple downloads?`
`11:57.13`	`Nom-`	`Mass Resurrection is going to be soooooooo loved`
`11:57.29`	`JoshBorke`	`eh?`
`11:58.04`	`clad\|sleep`	`Mass Resurrection?`
`11:58.31`	`clad\|sleep`	`running to org now`
`11:58.33`	`clad\|sleep`	`hellfire is down`
`11:58.45`	`clad\|sleep`	`blade's edge is up but I dont have any chars on it.`
`11:58.47`	`clad\|sleep`	`so i'm running to org =)`
`11:58.59`	`JoshBorke`	`who has mass resurrection?`
`11:59.05`	`clad\|sleep`	`heh i'm gonna be late to work`
`11:59.31`	`clad\|sleep`	`i just spent like a good 75k honor on my rank 13/14 stuff`
`11:59.40`	`clad\|sleep`	`and i dont even have my legs, chest`
`11:59.41`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`11:59.49`	`clad\|sleep`	`so ima be pissy`
`12:00.01`	`clad\|sleep`	`this honor system was buuilt for people like me`
`12:00.03`	`clad\|sleep`	`great at PVP`
`12:00.05`	`clad\|sleep`	`not a ton of time.`
`12:00.21`	`JoshBorke`	`yea, i like the new honor system`
`12:00.42`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`anyone have a link to a working version of the addon interface kit? Blizzard's isn't downloading correctly atm.`
`12:01.05`	`clad\|sleep`	`thats the only one i have`
`12:01.09`	`clad\|sleep`	`i could post teh xml if you'd like.`
`12:01.16`	`bleetah`	`yeah, i had a problem the other day with it`
`12:01.21`	`clad\|sleep`	`OOH i wonder if they fixed the caching issue.`
`12:01.36`	`bleetah`	`tried it a few times, both http and ftp, eventually got it`
`12:01.49`	`clad\|sleep`	`just extracted`
`12:01.52`	`clad\|sleep`	`if someone wants it.`
`12:02.24`	`ZealotOnAStick`	`never mind, it downloaded on my other system.`
`12:03.33`	`clad\|sleep`	`artificialtruth.com/Blizzard Interface Data (enUS).zip`
`12:03.43`	`clad\|sleep`	`http://artificialtruth.com/Blizzard Interface Data (enUS).zip`
`12:03.49`	`clad\|sleep`	`you know what i mean =)`
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`12:04.29`	`clad\|sleep`	`<3 <3 <# Primary Fury`
`12:04.35`	`clad\|sleep`	`FINALLY we dont have to choose between cat and bear forms.`
`12:04.53`	`Nom-`	`Paladins get Mass Resurrection at level 70 :)`
`12:05.30`	`bindi`	`http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=32841`
`12:05.36`	`bindi`	`you sure Nom-?`
`12:05.41`	`bindi`	`it says priest :s`
`12:05.43`	`JoshBorke`	`i knew we were the resurrection bitches`
`12:05.48`	`JoshBorke`	`now it's official...`
`12:05.53`	`clad\|sleep`	`screw paladins dude`
`12:05.57`	`clad\|sleep`	`that should be a priest spell`
`12:06.02`	`Nom-`	`hmmmmmmmmmmmm`
`12:06.10`	`Nom-`	`Well it shows up in the Paladin tree on Thott`
`12:06.18`	`Nom-`	`http://www.thottbot.com/beta?c=Paladin <-- in the last few`
`12:06.21`	`Nom-`	`So maybe it's wrong`
`12:06.25`	`Nom-`	`I thought it'd be a priest thing too`
`12:06.46`	`bindi`	`hmm yeh we'll see :) http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=32841 says priest tho :)`
`12:07.06`	`Nom-`	`I just saw since you pointed it out`
`12:07.07`	`clad\|sleep`	`qHOLY SHIT`
`12:07.09`	`Nom-`	`Very odd indeeed`
`12:07.10`	`clad\|sleep`	`YAY YA AY AY AYA AYAYAYAYAY`
`12:07.11`	`clad\|sleep`	`HOLY SHIT`
`12:07.13`	`clad\|sleep`	`YAY AYA YAYA AYA YA y`
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`12:07.46`	`Nom-`	`Someone is getting Mass Resurrection at least`
`12:08.01`	`Nom-`	`It'd be absolutely awesome is that worked on an entire raid`
`12:08.19`	`bindi`	`idd`
`12:08.28`	`bindi`	`<3 raid recovery like that :p`
`12:09.02`	`axxo`	`xmass resurection? where`
`12:09.18`	`Nom-`	`http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=32841`
`12:09.28`	`Nom-`	`It shows up in the Paladin skill tree, but the skill says Priest on it`
`12:09.30`	`clad\|sleep`	`CAN YOU SAY SINK FOR MARKS OF HONOR HOLY SHIT!!!`
`12:09.33`	`Nom-`	`So yeah, someone is getting it :P`
`12:09.53`	`Nom-`	`What's that, clad\|sleep ?`
`12:09.55`	`clad\|sleep`	`http://imagelink.org/info/6387`
`12:10.18`	`Nom-`	`lol`
`12:10.23`	`Nom-`	`at least there's somewhere to spend them`
`12:10.39`	`clad\|sleep`	`dude.`
`12:10.40`	`clad\|sleep`	`that's amazing.`
`12:10.42`	`clad\|sleep`	`you have no idea`
`12:10.45`	`bindi`	`indeed`
`12:11.05`	`Nom-`	`Hopefully they heal more than a major mana pot`
`12:11.08`	`Nom-`	`but even still`
`12:11.19`	`bindi`	`they're called major, what do you expect`
`12:11.22`	`bindi`	`:p`
`12:11.42`	`clad\|sleep`	`http://ImageLink.org/gallery/107`
`12:11.44`	`clad\|sleep`	`thats all the PVP prices`
`12:11.48`	`clad\|sleep`	`the set prices didn't change`
`12:12.55`	`JoshBorke`	`nerf horde imo`
`12:13.31`	`clad\|sleep`	`shower`
`12:13.32`	`clad\|sleep`	`then work`
`12:13.34`	`clad\|sleep`	`ima be so late`
`12:13.35`	`clad\|sleep`	`lol`
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`12:18.51`	`bindi`	`is 2.03 considered TBC?`
`12:19.23`	`norgs`	`2.0.3 is the same version as TBC`
`12:19.34`	`norgs`	`(at the moment at least)`
`12:19.40`	`bindi`	`k :)`
`12:20.32`	`kaso`	`so the current beta build is going live`
`12:21.17`	`kaso`	`Including sexy sexy SoL crits!`
`12:22.18`	`Nom-`	`2.0.3 is TBC as far as the servers are concerned I believe`
`12:22.25`	`Nom-`	`The plan would be to just flick the switch next week`
`12:22.39`	`Nom-`	`They might be shooting for virtually no downtime (one can hope)`
`12:24.10`	`kaso`	`Im sticking by my desision not to buy tbc`
`12:26.18`	`zenzio`	`why?`
`12:26.37`	`Nom-`	`gasp`
`12:26.43`	`Nom-`	`You'll be left behind`
`12:27.21`	`Nom-`	`I do look forward to 25-man (or less) MC/BWL/Naxx :P`
`12:27.21`	`kaso`	`thats the point, because of my competitive nature, if i was playing on lauch i'd feel compelled to rush to 70 asap, thus damaging my sleep/eating for weeks.`
`12:27.52`	`kaso`	`also it's going to be hell that first week in hellfire`
`12:28.03`	`JoshBorke`	`did blizzard ever comment on bosses scaling?`
`12:28.06`	`kaso`	`(on a pvp server)`
`12:28.07`	`Nom-`	`lern2paceyourself`
`12:28.19`	`Nom-`	`JoshBorke: Existing raid bosses don't change`
`12:28.30`	`kaso`	`but they still crush lvl 70s`
`12:28.33`	`Nom-`	`If you want to go back and get T1 @ level 70, you're more than welcome too it seems`
`12:28.35`	`kaso`	`thats what he meant`
`12:28.37`	`zenzio`	`I know I won't be first to 70, but I don't care`
`12:28.55`	`zenzio`	`I'm just looking forward to exploring all the new stuff, especially the 5-mans`
`12:29.25`	`kaso`	`Patchwerk is pretty much impossible at level 70 till you get full 25man raid gear`
`12:29.32`	`JoshBorke`	`i remember reading that patchwerk was nearly impossible without better gear`
`12:30.28`	`Nom-`	`not really kaso`
`12:30.58`	`Nom-`	`they are not tweaking the existing content (so it has been said)`
`12:31.42`	`JoshBorke`	`what has been seen on the beta server is that the bosses scale with you`
`12:31.44`	`zenzio`	`the existing content works, so not really any reason to tweak it`
`12:31.45`	`kaso`	`the point is, currently "Skull" bosses are just set at levelcap + 3 so for caclulations all bosses are still considered 73`
`12:32.16`	`JoshBorke`	`which means patchwerk goes back to hitting like a truck on steroids`
`12:32.31`	`zenzio`	`he didn't already?`
`12:32.32`	`kaso`	`so if you level to 70 and try patchwertk in your full dreadnaught you start getting HS'd for 15k due the the fact that your armor is less effective against a 73 boss.`
`12:33.03`	`Nom-`	`ouch`
`12:33.05`	`Nom-`	`that's crap then`
`12:33.45`	`Nom-`	`although`
`12:33.54`	`Nom-`	`if the loot scaled too`
`12:34.13`	`kaso`	`its clearly a bug, but they seem to not want to acknowledge it`
`12:36.29`	`Nom-`	`If the loot scaled, then you could see some actual progression happening`
`12:36.46`	`Nom-`	`Start in MC again, then BWL, AQ40, Naxx, then the new stuff`
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`12:37.21`	`kahdgarxi`	`Nom- - but you still wouldn't want to, because you'd run into the issue of starting off with a 40-man raid and then converting to a 25-man`
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`12:40.56`	`Spekkter`	`'ello! =)`
`12:42.23`	`Nom-`	`There's conflicting reports about that boss stuff`
`12:42.42`	`Nom-`	`Some people say they're seeing one-shots from bosses, others say they're hitting like kittens`
`12:43.00`	`kaso`	`mm, that is true, im not sure anyone has done a full scientific research into it.`
`12:44.06`	`Nom-`	`Surely they're going to do something with teh 40-man dungeons tho`
`12:44.15`	`kaso`	`Howso?`
`12:44.21`	`Nom-`	`Otherwise, aside from Nexus farming, they're going to sit unused`
`12:44.28`	`kaso`	`i think thats the aim`
`12:44.36`	`Nom-`	`but sniff`
`12:44.39`	`Nom-`	`I enjoy MC :(`
`12:44.44`	`kaso`	`You enjou MC?`
`12:45.02`	`Nom-`	`Yes :(`
`12:45.10`	`zenzio`	`I disagree that they'll become vacant`
`12:45.30`	`zenzio`	`the big raid guilds will move on, but new ones might well still prefer the old ones`
`12:46.19`	`Nom-`	`I doubt that`
`12:46.19`	`kaso`	`getting 40men together is hell on earth imo, why go through all that to get worse gear?`
`12:46.21`	`Nom-`	`Your greens and blues from TBC 5-mans are going to kick the crap out of MC loo`
`12:46.24`	`Nom-`	`t`
`12:46.54`	`kaso`	`the one thing i'm sad about is ill never be able to do the Hunter Quest from MC`
`12:47.05`	`JoshBorke`	`lol, yea`
`12:47.17`	`JoshBorke`	`do you still run ST for gear at lvl 60?`
`12:47.44`	`Nom-`	`sif run ST`
`12:47.49`	`Nom-`	`Scholo/Strat occasionally`
`12:47.53`	`Nom-`	`for loots more than gear`
`12:48.25`	`Nom-`	`I solo ST for cash once every now and then when i'm bored`
`12:48.56`	`Nom-`	`MC Heroic mode would be nice....I wonder if they'll do that and give some unique-ish loots`
`12:48.58`	`JoshBorke`	`now imagine if you couldn't solo because you needed at least 10-20 people`
`12:49.08`	`JoshBorke`	`any reason to go back?`
`12:49.39`	`Nom-`	`maybe once or twice just to run it`
`12:50.09`	`Nom-`	`Nexus farming :P`
`12:50.18`	`Nom-`	`That's probably the best reason I can think of to go back tot he 40-mans`
`12:50.24`	`Nom-`	`Except do it as a 25-man :P`
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`12:59.53`	`clad`	`JoshBorke: Hey`
`13:00.08`	`clad`	`JoshBorke: Can you check how much epic riding skill costs now? PLS PLS PLS?`
`13:00.28`	`clad`	`or someone`
`13:00.29`	`clad`	`email me`
`13:00.36`	`clad`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`13:04.40`	`kaso`	`i had an awesome idea for an addon last night`
`13:04.42`	`kaso`	`then forgot it :<`
`13:04.51`	`kaso`	`its really annoying me now`
`13:06.22`	`Nom-`	`I invented the cure for cancer last night too`
`13:06.24`	`Nom-`	`But I forgot`
`13:06.31`	`kaso`	`gosh darnit!`
`13:06.42`	`Nom-`	`Don't you hate that?`
`13:12.28`	`zenzio`	`that's nothing`
`13:12.33`	`zenzio`	`I invented the wheel last night`
`13:12.38`	`zenzio`	`then it turns out someone beat me to it :-(`
`13:12.47`	`Nom-`	`no wai`
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`13:18.34`	`clad`	`WTB someone with beta access!`
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`13:18.59`	`clad`	`WTB someone with beta access!`
`13:19.49`	`kaso`	`hi?`
`13:19.55`	`kaso`	`dont you have beta?`
`13:20.05`	`clad`	`yes.. but I'm at work`
`13:20.08`	`clad`	`and i need infoz.`
`13:20.12`	`clad`	`so i can plan things in my head`
`13:20.13`	`kaso`	`whatcha need?`
`13:21.27`	`clad`	`epic riding skill`
`13:21.35`	`clad`	`how much does it cost, it was supposed to be reduced for 2.0.3`
`13:22.13`	`kaso`	`one moment`
`13:22.23`	`clad`	`<#`
`13:24.24`	`kaso`	`ooh theyre finally restart Tempest keep so i can go on my level 70`
`13:24.49`	`Mikma`	`anyone has any idea can i use the regular blizzard buttons to swap the pages to stealth/etc? cogwheel provided me the code to swap them with alt/ctrl/shift but i'm not sure can they be swapped with rogue/druid/warrior :O`
`13:28.53`	`clad`	`kaso: wtb =)`
`13:29.12`	`kaso`	`im flying to a trainer`
`13:29.14`	`kaso`	`gimme a min`
`13:29.58`	`clad`	`heheh :P`
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`13:33.24`	`kaso`	`540g clad`
`13:33.44`	`clad`	`thats .. good news`
`13:33.55`	`clad`	`at least my druid can be epix before the expansion.`
`13:34.00`	`clad`	`i'm off`
`13:34.01`	`clad`	`thanks a bunch`
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`13:54.16`	`Mikma`	`clad\|work: epixpansion?`
`14:02.10`	`Industrial`	`Mikma: tell me if you know. :P`
`14:02.34`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: rgr`
`14:10.01`	`Industrial`	`Tem\|Work: I got the actionbar to work now :)`
`14:10.13`	`Industrial`	`but yeah no paging yet`
`14:13.53`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: show me teh code!`
`14:15.29`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: i got some sort of stealth-paging working but i don't think it's a smart way of doing this. i'll retry this with SecureTemplate and addchild :P`
`14:16.26`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: http://mikma.pastey.net/4790`
`14:16.47`	`Mikma`	`the only problem is that that doesn't add the focus to correct buttons :(`
`14:26.11`	KaoS`	`wow, macworld and a new patch`
`14:26.20`	KaoS`	`all in the same day :)`
`14:33.57`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: well, i failed at the stealth/something swap. i hope someone manages to make it :P`
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`14:43.54`	`Industrial`	`< Mikma> Industrial: show me teh code!`
`14:43.55`	`Industrial`	`k sec`
`14:44.23`	`Industrial`	`http://industrial.pastey.net/4791`
`14:44.28`	`Industrial`	`i just hacked in the pet bar :p`
`14:44.58`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`haxx0r!`
`14:47.05`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: you create new buttons :(`
`14:48.18`	`Industrial`	`they have the same template`
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`14:52.15`	`Mikma`	`hmm. i think i may have to reconsider of creating new buttons too :( can't find a way of swapping the ActionButton1-12 with rogue/druid/warrior`
`14:57.11`	`zenzio`	`hrm... free migration this week. Actually is tempting`
`14:57.51`	`Mikma`	`umm, where?`
`14:57.58`	`zenzio`	`certain EU realms`
`14:58.01`	`zenzio`	`http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=107541742&sid=1`
`14:58.28`	`zenzio`	`I'm on Silvermoon, and probably will stay there, but like I said... it's tempting`
`14:59.08`	`Mikma`	`i have my shaman on silvermoon`
`14:59.26`	`Mikma`	`haven't played with it in like 6 months tho`
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`15:04.00`	`zenzio`	`why they let people transfer (paid) to Silvermoon is beyond me... it was already way Full`
`15:04.10`	`zenzio`	`now it's just horrible`
`15:10.58`	`kaso`	`cos they want the money?`
`15:17.22`	`zenzio`	`let them transfer to less populated realms instead`
`15:17.38`	`zenzio`	`I know several people who stopped playing because the server is messed up now`
`15:17.57`	`Industrial`	`Grim Batol gets to transfer :o`
`15:18.29`	`Industrial`	`its a mess too, last time they set it open for grim batol when it was a small server, but it overflooded cause they let it open too long.. instant Full server :p`
`15:19.07`	`Industrial`	`cant remember from what servers (2), i started on grim batol`
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`15:23.13`	`FlAWD`	`i started on magtheridon, its been full from the begining :P`
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`15:26.26`	`zenzio`	`well, I didn't start playing on EU servers until ~February 2006, but I think Silvermoon was a launch server as well`
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`15:44.20`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`Garth\|WoW: do everyone a favour and turn off the status messages, please?`
`15:45.51`	`Garthnait`	`sorry, i'm testing something ^^`
`15:45.58`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`okay :)`
`15:46.37`	`Mikma`	`lies!`
`15:46.43`	`Mikma`	`he's just covering his tiny behind`
`15:47.11`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`No one objects to nick changes to indicate your status, we all do it, myself included. It's just status messages that get annoying.`
`15:47.44`	`Mikma`	`Cairenn\|afk: i must be the only one who hates even nickchanged :) i'm a /away note -fan`
`15:48.21`	`Garthnait`	`hmm, y do i have to type in my password again when i'm changing my nick?`
`15:48.23`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`Mikma: aye, I know, we've had this discussion before`
`15:48.24`	`Garthnait`	`this sucks`
`15:48.36`	`Mikma`	`Cairenn\|afk: purr`
`15:48.47`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`but not all IRC clients allow the usage of the /away note`
`15:49.16`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`Garthnait: change to your alternate nick(s) and type in /msg nickserv link [main name] [password]`
`15:49.40`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`that way you link your alternate names to your main name and don't have to put in your passwords`
`15:49.53`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`you have to register your alternate names as well, obviously`
`15:50.13`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`I've got like 9 different nicks I use, to indicate status`
`15:50.20`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`they are all linked though`
`15:51.19`	`Mikma`	`yay!`
`15:51.59`	`Garthnait`	`[ 16:52 ] (�) Info: Notice[Please register your nick (using the REGISTER command) before using this command] was received from NickServ`
`15:51.59`	`Garthnait`	`[ 16:52 ] (�) Info: Notice[The nickname [Garthnait\|afk] is not registered] was received from NickServ`
`15:53.11`	`Garthnait`	`i've typed ./msg nickserv link [main name] [password]`
`15:53.20`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`you have to register your alternate names as well, obviously`
`15:53.28`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
`15:54.06`	`Garthnait`	`i do this later, now i have to go shopping, cya later`
`15:54.26`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`later`
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`16:03.40`	`Cide`	`did the interface version change with the patch? too busy to check, heh`
`16:03.58`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`still downloading here Cide, no way to check yet`
`16:04.23`	`[Ammo]`	`20003 it should be`
`16:04.38`	`[Ammo]`	`at least that's what the spammy commits in #wowace tell me`
`16:05.00`	`Cide`	`ok, thanks`
`16:05.10`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`I don't think there's supposed to be a version bump, but I could be wrong`
`16:05.17`	`[Ammo]`	`could be`
`16:05.34`	`[Ammo]`	`have to wait till tomorrow myself`
`16:11.24`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I wonder what version next week will be`
`16:12.19`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`I think next week will be 20003`
`16:13.32`	`Srosh`	`same, nothing will change next week`
`16:13.55`	`Srosh`	`and it's 20003 this week`
`16:14.57`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`you've already finished the patch and done the extract?`
`16:15.56`	`Iriel`	`mdKwymM?`
`16:16.37`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`cat on the keyboard Iriel?`
`16:18.37`	`Iriel`	`almost`
`16:18.50`	`Iriel`	`sleepy iriel does not a good typist make`
`16:18.56`	`End`	`ah`
`16:18.57`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`hehehe`
`16:18.59`	`End`	`Iriel on the keyboard`
`16:19.05`	`Iriel`	`Morning all anyway 8-)`
`16:19.11`	`End`	`morning :)`
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`16:24.42`	`Kirkburn`	`WOW, seriously, just wow - http://www.tweakvista.com/Article39054.aspx`
`16:25.15`	`zenzio`	`=D`
`16:25.21`	`Kirkburn`	`Not that, the video`
`16:25.46`	`Kirkburn`	`You really have to watch it (not an ad for anything)`
`16:26.23`	`Kirkburn`	`"How to use the Bellagio fountains" :)`
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`16:27.44`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`have you never seen them?`
`16:28.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Just watch the video :)`
`16:32.17`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`nice video, but it's about what I saw at 4th of July, just with what I assume is a holographic display behind it`
`16:32.46`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`actually, 4th of July was more impressive, cause they made the fountains sound just like fireworks`
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`16:34.24`	`pastamancer`	`JoshBorke: ping`
`16:36.17`	`Kirkburn`	`Neuro_Medivh, yeah, I think the sound on the video was kinda weedy :/ The thing it's talking about is another one of those treasure hunt games, this time from MS`
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`16:39.11`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yeah, there's a better copy of the video at that website, www.vanishingpointgame.com`
`16:40.07`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`my favorite of those treasure hunt/puzzle things was this one back in the 80s: http://archives.obs-us.com/obs/english/books/holt/books/maze/`
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`16:44.51`	`Garth\|Shopping`	`can anybody tell how to make my own chatframe? the tut on wowwiki does'nt work. it seems to be not updated for 2.0`
`16:47.54`	`foxlit`	`"own chatframe"?`
`16:48.14`	`Garthnait`	`yes ^^`
`16:48.43`	`Garthnait`	`for my addon`
`16:50.20`	`Garthnait`	`not frame ^^ type`
`16:50.31`	`Garthnait`	`my own chat type`
`16:51.10`	`Garthnait`	`like this: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_your_own_chat_types`
`16:51.20`	`Garthnait`	`but it seems to be not updated for wow 2.0`
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`16:52.56`	`beerke`	`anyone has turtle pet and can do either /print GetPetFoodTypes() or /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetPetFoodTypes()) for me and give result back`
`16:54.01`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`patch notes are up at WoWI`
`16:54.27`	`Elkano`	`so there was a patch today?`
`16:54.35`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`yes`
`16:54.58`	`End`	`way to make me click the here link for the full patch notes!`
`16:55.11`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7908`
`16:55.12`	`foxlit`	`It's boring, though`
`16:56.22`	KaoS`	`can download patch.. woot.`
`16:56.33`	`foxlit`	`Although "A new bracket has been added to Alterac Valley for level 61-70.`
`16:56.43`	`foxlit`	`They've been contradicting themselves lately.`
`16:56.53`	`End`	`... reduces mana cost of shape****ing ...`
`16:57.01`	`End`	`o_O`
`16:57.30`	KaoS`	`wow big patch`
`16:58.01`	`foxlit`	`Mangle stacked? How come I wasn't informed! :P`
`16:58.58`	`cogwheel\|work`	KaoS`: Big WoW patch... ?
`16:59.00`	`cogwheel\|work`	`XD`
`16:59.23`	KaoS`	`hehe yeah :P`
`16:59.24`	KaoS`	`lots of notes`
`16:59.25`	KaoS`	`to read`
`16:59.32`	KaoS`	`and macworld in like 1 min`
`16:59.34`	KaoS`	`going nuts :)`
`17:00.08`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`yes, the toc is 20003 (just ran the installer)`
`17:00.32`	`*** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn\|afk -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ \| TOC is 20003 \| If life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives.`
`17:00.37`	`TC_Working`	`http://www.macrumorslive.com/ for a a semi-live goings on`
`17:02.51`	`*** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn\|afk -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ \| Patch Notes http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7908 \| TOC is 20003 \| If life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives.`
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`17:09.44`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`"Also, a reminder to authors. With the expansion going live next week we will be deleting the 2.0 beta download category very shortly thereafter. Contact a staff member to get your mods moved to a live category or deleted if you are updating an existing live version."`
`17:11.07`	`foxlit`	`Wiki is weird.`
`17:11.17`	`foxlit`	`Or maybe not :)`
`17:12.30`	KaoS`	`#mwsf2007 / #mwsf2007-discuss for macworld stuff :) (live feed in channel)`
`17:12.34`	KaoS`	`if you care about macworld :)`
`17:12.48`	KaoS`	`almost 900 people in mwsf2007 lol`
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`17:15.54`	`sysrage`	`omgoos it is next week`
`17:16.54`	`zenzio`	`"The priest Discipline talent "Reflective Shield" will no longer cause the recipient of the shield to perform a cast animation every time the shield reflects damage."`
`17:17.05`	`zenzio`	`aww... and it was so fun being stunned and still doing that animation :-(`
`17:17.12`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:17.39`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`oh crap, wrong window, disregard`
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`17:18.04`	`TC_Working`	`lol`
`17:18.32`	`TC_Working`	`groan and it starts off with a bad pun`
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`17:20.30`	`Spekkter`	`lol wow...`
`17:20.56`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`crap crap crap, sorry guys`
`17:20.57`	`TC_Working`	`and here Cairenn thought us guys wouldnt want to read it`
`17:21.10`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`I SO did not mean to link that over here`
`17:21.15`	`Spekkter`	`talk about a highly descriptive essay... o_O`
`17:21.17`	`Spekkter`	`lol`
`17:21.19`	`TC_Working`	`to late, the dmg is done`
`17:21.23`	`Spekkter`	`hahah`
`17:21.49`	`zenzio`	`thankfully I never open livejournal/myspace links`
`17:21.58`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`but since I screwed up, I'll go ahead and tell you that I absolutely kill myself laughing every time I read it`
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`17:22.02`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`it is soooooooooo true`
`17:22.19`	`Spekkter`	`so your not the author? :P haha`
`17:22.25`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`no :p`
`17:22.29`	KaoS`	`did they fix the WF SS issue for shammies ?`
`17:22.34`	`Spekkter`	`hah okay..thank you baby jesus`
`17:22.53`	`Spekkter`	`:P`
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`17:28.19`	`obelus`	`"gorilla salad"`
`17:28.27`	`TC_Working`	`ya, a first for me as well`
`17:28.40`	`TC_Working`	`but i got it...after some thought`
`17:28.49`	`obelus`	`hopefully not too much =p`
`17:28.57`	`Saeris`	`Does <OnTooltipSetItem> have any args?`
`17:29.06`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`yay for barkskin while stunned :D`
`17:29.09`	`TC_Working`	`no, but then i am paying more attention to the keynote speach than that article`
`17:29.42`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`and being able to stay in bear while I talk to npcs in AV`
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`17:35.18`	`Saeris`	`Do we have any way to obtain the numbe of items in the stack for which <OnTooltipSetItem> was called?`
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`17:43.56`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`gah, wikipedia, why hast thou forsaken me?`
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`17:56.04`	`Industrial`	`Mikma: you just need to know the action ir's blizzard uses for every form`
`17:56.08`	`Industrial`	`id's*`
`17:56.19`	`Mikma`	`Industrial: i do know, some`
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`18:04.19`	`Industrial`	`yes, they areset to easy but its just fun to take all their paratroops and GRIND them`
`18:04.59`	`Industrial`	`evil laughter and wicked screams`
`18:20.48`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`omg blizzard borke my paperdolstarts addon`
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`18:25.56`	`Mery`	`do a "LF39M Raid Blizzard HQ" in general`
`18:27.20`	KaoS`	`OMg`
`18:27.26`	KaoS`	`the apple phone`
`18:27.27`	KaoS`	`wow..`
`18:27.28`	KaoS`	`all I can say`
`18:27.38`	KaoS`	`next thing, it will say it can run wow :)`
`18:28.17`	`Mery`	`got a link?`
`18:28.25`	`obelus`	`runs os x`
`18:28.29`	`obelus`	`why not? =)`
`18:29.04`	`kloppe`	`Mery, http://www.macrumorslive.com/`
`18:29.19`	`Mery`	`thanks.`
`18:29.40`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`omg .... IsEquippableItem(item) do they have any idea how long it took me to get my tooltip scanning code for when an item canno be enquipws was ready ?`
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`18:30.48`	`Kirov`	`wow forums down?`
`18:32.27`	`Mery`	`i can read them (us forum)`
`18:34.58`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge phyber_ (i=phyber@midgar.cardboardium.com)`
`18:39.10`	`TC_Working`	`""Rune of Metamorphosis" now reduces mana cost of shape****ing by a flat amount, instead of by a percentage." Why has that been asterisked out?`
`18:39.37`	`Kirov`	`Shapeshiting`
`18:39.42`	`Kirov`	`forgot the f`
`18:39.46`	`Mikma`	`:)`
`18:39.53`	`TC_Working`	`well thats whats been posted on wowi...`
`18:40.11`	`TC_Working`	`by it's glorious leader`
`18:40.24`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`- "Swipe" has had its threat bonus multiplier removed.`
`18:40.24`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`- "Maul" has had its threat bonus multiplier changed to a flat value`
`18:40.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`similar in threat per time to "Heroic Strike".`
`18:40.32`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`goddamnit`
`18:41.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`goodbye druid tanking, you will be missed :/`
`18:42.28`	`Elkano`	`well, swipe was pwn :(`
`18:43.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well now it's worthless`
`18:43.42`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`damnit this pisses me off`
`18:44.04`	`Saeris`	`Anyone know of an addon containing code which I could observe to garner a decent idea of how to set up a dropdown menu with buttons that cast spells and hide the dropdown when clicked?`
`18:44.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`back to being nothing but a healbot it looks like`
`18:44.58`	`Iriel`	`Saeris: Look for one of the 2.0 tracking skill switching addons ?`
`18:48.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`arg i'm like shaking in anger`
`18:49.17`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge bleetah (n=Bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter)`
`18:51.45`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Squallie (n=winkelpi@cp349340-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl)`
`18:51.49`	`Squallie`	`Haai :)`
`18:52.00`	`Squall`	`Can I get some help?`
`18:52.15`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge _aLF (n=Alexandr@aix73-2-88-160-210-8.fbx.proxad.net)`
`18:52.22`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`guess blizzard just saved me 40 bucks`
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`18:53.02`	`Looney`	`why the hell do noobs keep registering my nicks -.-'`
`18:53.09`	`Spekkter`	`?? lol`
`18:53.31`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`Squall is my nick since FF8 came out, around 8-9 years ago`
`18:53.51`	`bleetah`	`freenode is quite old, too`
`18:53.56`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`LooneyTuneatic is my CS 1.6 name since 6 years, I allways make it short too Looney`
`18:54.01`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`both taken`
`18:54.02`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`<_<`
`18:54.05`	`Spekkter`	`Isn't squall an actual character in FF8?`
`18:54.10`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`its the main character`
`18:54.16`	`Spekkter`	`ah, thought so ^_^`
`18:54.19`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`thats why I am mentioning it ;)`
`18:54.29`	`Spekkter`	`lol well i can understand then, why its taken :P`
`18:54.32`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`Spekkter, are you an UI customizing pro?`
`18:54.39`	`Spekkter`	`eh, not really lol`
`18:54.43`	`Spekkter`	`i just use Titan`
`18:54.51`	`Spekkter`	`what you tryin to do?`
`18:54.56`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`move my chats`
`18:55.35`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`My UI is set to 0.64 but when I change it to +- 0.80-0.90 the chats lower along with the UI so they appear out of screen`
`18:55.35`	`Spekkter`	`k`
`18:55.50`	`Spekkter`	`ok`
`18:56.00`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`can ya help me? :)`
`18:56.13`	`Spekkter`	`when you hover over the chat window, right click the tab for the window, select unlock window, and then you can drag the window where you want it`
`18:56.16`	`Spekkter`	`then lock it again ;)`
`18:56.28`	`Spekkter`	`you can resize it as well`
`18:56.40`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`omfg`
`18:56.50`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`I can call myself stupid now`
`18:56.52`	`Spekkter`	`lol`
`18:56.55`	`Spekkter`	`nah`
`18:57.06`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Matholum (n=swmattyo@d60-65-13-236.col.wideopenwest.com)`
`18:57.07`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`I managed to find out how the customizing of the rest works`
`18:57.09`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`bartender etc`
`18:57.11`	`Spekkter`	`i had to find out the hard way too :P`
`18:57.14`	`Spekkter`	`lol`
`18:57.22`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`but I cant even move my chat :/`
`18:57.25`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`and how do it split it?`
`18:57.28`	`Spekkter`	`just dont tell anyone, and you'll be good :P lol`
`18:57.37`	`Spekkter`	`right click the tab, select create new window`
`18:57.44`	`Matholum`	`hi everyone!`
`18:57.48`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`I want to do it like this: normal + guild --- Raid --- Damage`
`18:57.54`	`Spekkter`	`then you can right click the tab on that window and select what channels, etc you want in that window`
`18:57.54`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`Hi`
`18:58.02`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`omg thanks :D`
`18:58.07`	`Spekkter`	`anytime man =)`
`18:58.08`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`I got another question`
`18:58.10`	`Spekkter`	`k lol`
`18:58.15`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`but i forgot >_<`
`18:58.18`	`Kirov`	`LooneyTuneatic - when it's unlocked you can drag tabs off to create new windows`
`18:58.19`	`Spekkter`	`d'oh`
`18:58.25`	`Matholum`	`lol.....`
`18:59.24`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`How do I enlarge my player portret?`
`18:59.32`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`I am using AG_unitframes`
`18:59.36`	`Gryphen`	`viagra`
`18:59.40`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Tierrie\|Work (n=tierrie@code-poets.org)`
`18:59.42`	`Tierrie\|Work`	`hi folks!@`
`18:59.44`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`I am a female ingame...`
`18:59.51`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`Viagra wont work stupid`
`18:59.52`	`Spekkter`	`ok...lol`
`19:00.09`	`Gryphen`	`ono im stupid cause i dont know who the hell you are!!!`
`19:00.18`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`(K) :D`
`19:00.43`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`spekkter, what realm do you play?`
`19:01.06`	`Spekkter`	`Eredar`
`19:02.18`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`interested in a premade TBC guild?`
`19:02.36`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`(Correct me if advertising to a single person is not allowed)`
`19:02.52`	`End`	`(Your face is not allowed)`
`19:02.59`	`End`	`(oh burn!)`
`19:03.36`	`Spekkter`	`d'oh lol`
`19:03.36`	`Spekkter`	`and no thanks`
`19:03.36`	`Spekkter`	`lol`
`19:03.36`	`Spekkter`	`wellp..goin afk...gotta get ready for work`
`19:03.41`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`gl ;)`
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`19:06.04`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`me no likes end :<`
`19:06.26`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge obelus (n=b@66.28.82.18)`
`19:07.27`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`"Druid Threat Nerfed to uselessness, no longer viable tanks. Sad to go, but this was the last straw. Was looking forward to the expansion. Not anymore."`
`19:07.32`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`goodbye wow, it was a good run`
`19:07.34`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`Obelus! Bij toutatis! Word weer Obelix! :D`
`19:08.00`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`Rabies, go play another class =X`
`19:08.08`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that doesn't fix the problem`
`19:08.20`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`for you it does?`
`19:08.32`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that's just throwing more money at them despite them spitting on me after kicking me in the junk`
`19:08.34`	`Spekkter`	`zomg, Azeroth is under attack!! O_o lol`
`19:09.30`	`LooneyTuneatic`	`so if i get this correct, druids get none to very low treath?`
`19:09.44`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252)`
`19:09.44`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Tem] by ChanServ`
`19:10.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`yes, looney`
`19:10.15`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`we're no longer viable tanks`
`19:10.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`in any situation`
`19:11.11`	`Saeris`	`Iriel: Any idea where I might find one of those "tracking skill switching addons"? Looking through the various hosting sites, I can only find TrackerToggle and SilverTrack which fit my criteria, and neither is updated to use secure templates.`
`19:11.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`instead of buffing warrior threat, they nerfed us to having one entirely useless form`
`19:12.58`	`SP\|Sorren`	`woohoo hunter buffs~`
`19:13.24`	`Iriel`	`Saeris: Look at GFW_TrackMenu ?`
`19:13.31`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge [1]Stavmar (n=mstav@fwext1-ext.isgenesis.com)`
`19:13.43`	`bleetah`	`goddamn patcher.. just 'coz I'm using a non-official operating system, don't mean you have to keep crapping out`
`19:14.05`	`Tem`	`they're patching the live servers to 2.0.3?`
`19:14.11`	`bleetah`	`Tem: aye`
`19:14.14`	`Tem`	`oh wow`
`19:14.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`yep :/`
`19:14.21`	`Tem`	`so next week is going to be smooth as hell`
`19:14.28`	`End`	`maybe`
`19:14.28`	`End`	`:P`
`19:14.31`	`bleetah`	`got my windows install happening last night, linux/cedega don't wanna know the patcher at all :'(`
`19:14.37`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`an untested build too`
`19:14.42`	`Tem`	`this patch is a patch to what is on the CD`
`19:14.42`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`complete with stealth druid nerfs`
`19:14.48`	`Tem`	`so...`
`19:14.53`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`ewll`
`19:14.59`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well, not stealth, just not in beta`
`19:15.06`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`they're on the patch notes`
`19:15.11`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Tem, I thought 2.0.1 was the patch on the cd`
`19:15.14`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`but weren't in the beta build`
`19:15.16`	`End`	`cd has (more importantly) xpac data too`
`19:15.27`	`Tem`	`End, well yeah`
`19:15.28`	`Tem`	`but like`
`19:15.34`	`End`	`every must have 2.0.3, but only the xpac data is specific to the cd`
`19:15.38`	`End`	`(er, everyone)`
`19:15.49`	`SP\|Sorren`	`so in 2.0.3 my scanning tooltips crap out, saying that you can't set owner to self`
`19:15.57`	`SP\|Sorren`	`how should i fix that :X`
`19:15.59`	`Tem`	`Neuro_Medivh, 2.0.1 is what went live in december`
`19:16.05`	`bleetah`	`so do we hold a service in memorial of the never seen in the live 2.0.2? :P`
`19:16.13`	`TC_Working`	`Tem, thats wishfull thinking`
`19:16.20`	`Tem`	`meh`
`19:16.33`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I know, but I coulda sworn Slouken said the TBC cd went gold back in 2.0.1`
`19:16.44`	`Tem`	`shrug`
`19:16.48`	`Iriel`	`It may well have done`
`19:17.00`	`Iriel`	`The original wow launch was on a newer version than the gold masters`
`19:17.02`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i wouldn't be surprised if the cd has 2.0.1 on it`
`19:17.10`	`TC_Working`	`no, he said that saying the release dats, was the same as going gold for thoes purpases`
`19:17.15`	`TC_Working`	`dates*`
`19:17.25`	`Tem`	`unless a copy of BC appears on my doorstep before next week, I probably won't even have it for a few days`
`19:17.52`	`bleetah`	`so.. I'm guessing no one else here uses wine/cedega?`
`19:18.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm not picking it up unless blizzard decides to reverse making druid tanks worthless :/`
`19:18.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`in which case i can uncancel my account and buy bc`
`19:18.43`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge [2]Stavmar (n=mstav@fwext1-ext.isgenesis.com)`
`19:18.49`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yeah right, Tem, like how would a copy just magically appear on your doorstep? =)`
`19:18.59`	`Tem`	`by magic`
`19:19.15`	`Tem`	`so it's just plain unlikely that I'll have BC until the next weekend`
`19:19.27`	`Iriel`	`Tem: That may be a blessing in diguise`
`19:19.43`	`End`	`Mr_Rabies2: do you even know how big/small the flat modifier is now for maul?`
`19:19.46`	`Iriel`	`Tem: Assuming you were around for the original launch`
`19:19.48`	`bleetah`	`hah, mad.. switch from running in WinXP to WinNT4 modes, and the patcher's fine`
`19:19.52`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`It's the same as Heroic strike`
`19:19.52`	`Tem`	`Iriel, I was :)`
`19:19.59`	`Saeris`	`The original launch was horrific.`
`19:20.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`how often do you see warriors using heroic strike to tank?`
`19:20.19`	`Saeris`	`Don't druids get a new skill similar to Sunder Armor?`
`19:20.26`	`End`	`sort o`
`19:20.27`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`at 66, and it's not nearly as much threat`
`19:20.31`	`Saeris`	`Oh.`
`19:20.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`instead of giving warriors scaling threat like us they unscaled us`
`19:21.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and the scaling was all we had`
`19:21.18`	`End`	`I've heard mangle does more threat-wise, which I suppose probably says something`
`19:21.20`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`dude, you were every bit as good as warriors... but you could heal and nuke`
`19:21.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`not in the same fight`
`19:21.47`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`which means for that fight, we were warriors`
`19:21.52`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`lol`
`19:21.59`	`Kirov`	`so, raise of hands, who wants an iPhone?`
`19:22.07`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Which would you rather be... a warrior, or a warrior who could also heal or nuke`
`19:22.10`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`mangle is less threat than even post-nerf maul`
`19:22.25`	`End`	`Neuro_Medivh: you only have a point on the heal part`
`19:22.30`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`No`
`19:22.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`a warrior, they're better in most every case even pre-nerf`
`19:22.42`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Which is better, X or X + 1?`
`19:22.51`	`End`	`like I said`
`19:22.55`	`End`	`you say X + 2`
`19:22.57`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`You cannot have a hybrid which is as good as their base class`
`19:22.57`	`End`	`I say only + 1`
`19:23.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`play a druid ang get back to me, Neuro_Medivh`
`19:23.15`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and*`
`19:23.33`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Mr_Rabies, that's just design theory. You can't have 1 class which is a superset of another class`
`19:23.42`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`otherwise, the first class is obsolete`
`19:23.43`	`End`	`My hybrid isn't as good as its base classes, since I don't have 41 points to put in each tree :P`
`19:23.47`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`no, but you can have 1 class that's 90% of 3 classes`
`19:24.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and it still be balanced because they're only 90% of one at a time`
`19:24.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`unlike paladins and shamans we can't swap from healing to dps in the same fight`
`19:24.54`	`obelus`	`why not?`
`19:24.55`	`SP\|Sorren`	`in pvp you can ;o`
`19:24.58`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`we were never as good or better than warriors at tanking, we were close, as it should be`
`19:25.07`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`ahem`
`19:25.10`	`SP\|Sorren`	`and who cares about pve :P`
`19:25.10`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`did you play TBC?`
`19:25.29`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`druids were out and out BETTER than warriors at tanking in instances`
`19:25.37`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I don't mean "almost as good"`
`19:25.43`	`End`	`I think Neuro_Medivh is probably right about that`
`19:25.47`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`They were better. More hp, more ac, more threat`
`19:25.58`	`obelus`	`but that's been nerfed?`
`19:26.00`	`End`	`(I definitely got a lot of tells asking my to tank)`
`19:26.02`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Yes`
`19:26.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i supported giving warriors better scaling`
`19:26.04`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`and they needed to`
`19:26.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`instead of nerfing us to never be used for tanks`
`19:26.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`ever`
`19:26.36`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`there's no reason to use a druid tank now, instead of being reliable steady threat, we've got next to none`
`19:27.07`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`No, druids are still doing well in TBC`
`19:27.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`the threat nerf wasn't in beta`
`19:27.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`it wasn't in the beta build`
`19:27.56`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`well, first, you havent' even gotten to play with the threat nerf, so you don't know exactly how bad the impact is`
`19:28.14`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`http://www.apple.com/iphone/phone/`
`19:28.15`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i know how our abilities work, and the threat multiplier was the one thing allowing us to tank`
`19:28.28`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`no more multiplier = no more aggro`
`19:28.32`	`bleetah`	`i thought iPhone was a (TM) of someone else?`
`19:28.48`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`So did I`
`19:28.54`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Odd disclaimer at the bottom`
`19:29.01`	`Kirov`	`Cisco owns the rights`
`19:29.02`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`"This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained."`
`19:29.09`	`Kirov`	`They already released their own iPhone`
`19:29.17`	`bleetah`	`Kirov: ah yeah, that's them`
`19:29.58`	`Matholum`	`hi kirov ^_^`
`19:30.03`	`bleetah`	`lolz, I always love it when apple or microsoft pages collapse on Linux.. I'm always like 'wtf you don't wanna advertise to people using the competition?"`
`19:30.13`	`Kirov`	`http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1165633354987&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper`
`19:30.25`	`Kirov`	`'allo Matholum`
`19:30.56`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Xolan[EU] (n=Xolan[EU@217-104-65.521110.adsl.tele2.no)`
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`19:33.30`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Exclusive to Cingular, lol`
`19:33.57`	`Kirov`	`aye`
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`19:34.32`	`Kirov`	`And using EDGE, the network Cingular is killing off.`
`19:35.35`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Telrin (n=test@roar.xs4all.nl)`
`19:37.18`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`who bromke my wiki !!`
`19:37.51`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`can someone sned mthe interface files for 20003 ?`
`19:37.58`	`abug`	`In Soviet Russia, wiki bromke you`
`19:38.25`	`abug`	`testing wdn.wowinterface.com`
`19:38.55`	`abug`	`aww it's not updated`
`19:41.47`	`zenzio`	`crap... PUG-like Chromaggus, and too many people seem incapable of or unwilling to listening to the leaders... for such basic things as "dispell", "do not f'cking hide during time lapse"`
`19:42.01`	`zenzio`	`and when we wipe because of it, the people not listening start whining and leaving`
`19:42.26`	`abug`	`euro servers are up?`
`19:42.31`	`zenzio`	`yes`
`19:42.38`	`axxo`	`euro patch day is tomorrow`
`19:42.43`	`zenzio`	`they don't go down for another six or eight hours`
`19:43.42`	`Dezzi`	`zenzio: pugging anything is a bitch unless you have people from a small number of established guilds that have cleared what you're fighting`
`19:44.14`	`zenzio`	`Dezzi: I know =) But the invites were somewhat selective, so I expected them to be smart people. I was proved wrong :-( (as I usually am)`
`19:44.45`	`Dezzi`	`my first BWL fight was broodlord :v`
`19:45.00`	`Dezzi`	`got in a pug that had already killed vael/razor`
`19:45.22`	`[Cu]Werik`	`The most interesting fight in bwl!`
`19:45.22`	`Dezzi`	`did everything up to chromag that night`
`19:45.23`	`zenzio`	`at least the weekly semi-PUG MC takes Ragnaros each week... will likely be my last chance to get the pants :-\|`
`19:45.37`	`Dezzi`	`till some rogue who was pissed that he couldn't roll on DFT pulled the lever and killed us all`
`19:45.41`	`zenzio`	`I find Nefarian to be the most interesting fight actually, but Razorgore and Vaelastrasz are close`
`19:46.02`	`Kirov`	`Nefarian is boring`
`19:46.07`	`Dezzi`	`the other kind of "pug" that works as well are guild hosted runs`
`19:46.08`	`zenzio`	`matter of opinion`
`19:46.14`	`Kirov`	`soooo freakishly boring`
`19:46.14`	`Dezzi`	`25-30 guildmembers and 10-15 pugs`
`19:46.42`	`sysrage`	`razor is a pain in the ass`
`19:46.54`	`zenzio`	`plenty of stuff to do in Nefarian fight as a tank warrior =)`
`19:46.54`	`sysrage`	`my guild can't get him down`
`19:46.55`	`Kirov`	`Unless you're a priest, you can basically go afk during Nefarian`
`19:47.08`	`zenzio`	`your guild must love you`
`19:47.10`	`Kirov`	`Stage1 is the only interesting part`
`19:47.20`	`Kirov`	`zenzio - top dps hunter :p`
`19:47.27`	`zenzio`	`doesn't take much`
`19:47.36`	`zenzio`	`as they said in AO, "Q-AFK"`
`19:47.37`	`zenzio`	`=D`
`19:47.55`	`Kirov`	`zenzio - by top dps hunter I mean top dps over rogues / mages / warlocks usually`
`19:48.14`	`zenzio`	`and I thought my joke was obvious`
`19:48.18`	`zenzio`	`again I was proven wrong`
`19:48.23`	`abug`	`QQ fire immunity`
`19:48.55`	`zenzio`	`just hope I'll get enough guild teams for the BC attunements and stuff`
`19:49.08`	`zenzio`	`with the new LFG system I just can't stand random teams`
`19:49.38`	`abug`	`don't do mana tombs`
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`19:52.10`	`abug`	`Im2good4u: ping`
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`19:58.51`	`bleetah`	`2.0.3 working fine with cedega/wine`
`19:59.49`	`End`	`just patching is difficult?`
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`20:00.47`	`bleetah`	`aye, the patcher does something weird and it falls apart unless you switch to 'NT4' API during the patch`
`20:01.09`	`Matholum`	`is wowwiki down right now??`
`20:02.05`	`End`	`either down, or really slow`
`20:02.25`	`Matholum`	`ya... i can't get to it -_-`
`20:02.25`	`JoshBorke`	`hola!`
`20:02.34`	`Xolan[EU]`	`hey`
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`20:02.38`	`JoshBorke`	`pastamancer: pong`
`20:02.51`	`Matholum`	`hola! konnichi wa!`
`20:02.59`	`JoshBorke`	`konnichi wa!`
`20:03.05`	`JoshBorke`	`dai jobu desu ka?`
`20:03.20`	`JoshBorke`	`oh wait`
`20:03.21`	`Matholum`	`hai, geki desu ^_^`
`20:03.28`	`JoshBorke`	`that should ogenki desu ka`
`20:03.30`	`Matholum`	`anata wa?`
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`20:03.38`	`JoshBorke`	`geki desu`
`20:03.39`	`subbawt`	`what have they done to my UI`
`20:03.44`	`[Liquidor]`	`Whenever a new realm is opened, is it then possible to migrate there right away or is it locked for some time ?`
`20:03.45`	`Matholum`	`i knew what you meant`
`20:03.48`	`JoshBorke`	`fixed it`
`20:04.00`	`Matholum`	`lol`
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`20:04.07`	`subbawt`	`http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/6792/wtfzz9.png`
`20:04.10`	`Industrial`	`[Liquidor]: no its locked`
`20:04.19`	`Industrial`	`[Liquidor]: you can join the race to 60`
`20:04.19`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`20:04.24`	`[Liquidor]`	`:)`
`20:04.35`	`[Liquidor]`	`That's what I'm aiming for :P`
`20:04.49`	`Industrial`	`nice`
`20:04.51`	`Industrial`	`EU?`
`20:04.54`	`[Liquidor]`	`ye`
`20:04.59`	`Industrial`	`what server?`
`20:05.06`	`[Liquidor]`	`When TBC comes out`
`20:05.10`	`Industrial`	`k`
`20:05.33`	`[Liquidor]`	`Done everything else but a race`
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`20:06.24`	`bleeta1`	`ok, so maybe not compeltely fine :/`
`20:06.50`	`[Liquidor]`	`Industrial: already preparing myself :> testing all classes, quests, zones, addons etc`
`20:07.47`	`Industrial`	`hunter.`
`20:08.00`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`hunt@rd ftw`
`20:11.24`	`abug`	`resto shaman!`
`20:16.34`	`JoshBorke`	`ooo, the current toc is in the topic! woot!`
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`20:17.36`	`pastamancer`	`JoshBorke: I commited a big change last night`
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`20:18.22`	`Xolan`	`I keep disconnect, but still remain in the channel >.<`
`20:18.28`	`Xolan`	`*disconnecting`
`20:19.21`	`JoshBorke`	`ok`
`20:19.30`	`JoshBorke`	`my change wasn't so little either!`
`20:19.55`	`subbawt`	`does anyone use vbagnon?`
`20:20.11`	`Tuller`	`subbawt: ?`
`20:20.19`	`Xolan`	`I'm in love with ArkInventory so no sorry`
`20:20.32`	`subbawt`	`whenever i "toggle inventory" it opens a new copy of my inventory`
`20:20.37`	`subbawt`	`every single time i press it, i get a new copy ;\`
`20:20.43`	`kergoth`	`i'm sure tuller counts, since he wrote it and all. i use it too`
`20:20.48`	`Tierrie\|Work`	`I see the new patch notes`
`20:21.08`	`Tierrie\|Work`	`but they didn't mention unprotecting StartDuel() or AbandonPet()`
`20:21.13`	`Tuller`	`subbawt: never heard of that one before`
`20:21.36`	`subbawt`	`it just started happening today, after the patch`
`20:21.49`	`subbawt`	`so i don't know what to say`
`20:22.25`	`End`	`here's what you say: looks like a new issue`
`20:22.33`	`subbawt`	`im not completely sure i have the latest version though, to be honest`
`20:23.16`	`Tuller`	`hrm, yeah well its weird :)`
`20:23.30`	`pastamancer`	`JoshBorke: mine was bigger. there's still plenty of secret sauce to go in there, but you should be able to work on the bars. Start by throwing them on your party unit frames or something`
`20:24.01`	`JoshBorke`	`i so hate table.sort :-P`
`20:24.23`	`pastamancer`	`it beats bubble-sorting or iterating the table all the time`
`20:24.25`	`JoshBorke`	`btw, i liked the commit message :-P`
`20:24.30`	`pastamancer`	`:)`
`20:24.40`	`JoshBorke`	`do we know what sort algorithm it uses?`
`20:25.03`	`pastamancer`	`IIRC it's a stable cousin of quicksort`
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`20:25.09`	`pastamancer`	`lemme check`
`20:25.14`	`JoshBorke`	`that's what i figured`
`20:25.49`	`Industrial`	`Q: Is there an addon or is it possible to make an addon that skips all gossip, accepts all quests (except for when a choice needs to be made)`
`20:26.01`	`JoshBorke`	`automaton from ace does that`
`20:26.25`	`pastamancer`	`although it could be plain ol' quicksort`
`20:26.51`	`Industrial`	`I need it to do it for all quest npcs in the game`
`20:27.01`	`Industrial`	`like, right click BAM all accepted`
`20:27.04`	`JoshBorke`	`oh, except accepting quests`
`20:27.19`	`subbawt`	`disaster averted, tuller`
`20:27.20`	`pastamancer`	`JoshBorke: oh, it's just plain ol quicksort`
`20:27.21`	`End`	`it is quicksort`
`20:27.27`	`subbawt`	`i downloaded the latest version, and it doesn't have the problem`
`20:27.33`	`Tuller`	`subbawt: hurray :)`
`20:27.34`	`End`	`** Quicksort`
`20:27.35`	`End`	** (based on `Algorithms in MODULA-3', Robert Sedgewick;
`20:27.35`	`End`	`** Addison-Wesley, 1993.)`
`20:27.56`	`bleetah`	`whoa, there's a blast from the past`
`20:27.56`	`pastamancer`	`which scripting language has a stable sort? I can't recall.`
`20:28.06`	`Tierrie\|Work`	`there's nothing unstable abotu quicksort..`
`20:28.17`	`End`	`no, quicksort isn't stable`
`20:28.30`	`End`	`I don't think you know the meaning o sable ;p`
`20:28.40`	`End`	`s/o sable/of stable/`
`20:28.44`	`Tierrie\|Work`	`ok i think i know what you're talking about`
`20:28.52`	`pastamancer`	`"The sort algorithm is not stable; that is, elements considered equal by the given order may have their relative positions changed by the sort.`
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`20:29.31`	`abug`	`quicksort is radioactive`
`20:29.56`	`Matholum`	`wowwiki is still down -_-`
`20:30.21`	`pastamancer`	`a quicksort bit my sister once`
`20:30.30`	`bleetah`	`i hate some of my guildies, they're bitching that they're not getting XP at 60... damn I want a new server class 'Rebellious RP-PvP' so I can stab them`
`20:30.33`	`End`	`I thought it was a moose?`
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`20:30.57`	`Industrial`	`wiki down?`
`20:31.13`	`Matholum`	`yes -_-.... sadness...`
`20:31.30`	`Industrial`	`crap`
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`20:33.41`	`JoshBorke`	`pastamancer: pst, put the texture for IncomingHealBars in the IncomingHealBars addon :-P`
`20:33.46`	`JoshBorke`	`and quite leaching from grid :-P`
`20:34.15`	`pastamancer`	`haha, it was a quick copy/paste. Feel free to change it to the default blizz bar texture`
`20:34.37`	`kergoth`	`incominghealbars?`
`20:35.14`	`bleetah`	`btw for those who missed it, here's a WoWWiki.com search plugin for Firefox. http://normal.blog.planet-warcraft.com/2007/01/07/wowwiki-search-plugin/`
`20:35.19`	`pastamancer`	`tenative name, it'll attach cast bars for incoming heals to each unit's frame`
`20:35.55`	`pastamancer`	`praid is the first support target, but I'll probably write support for grid so I can test it solo`
`20:36.11`	`kaso`	`Can anyone think of a clever way for me to plot a graph in game?`
`20:36.17`	`kaso`	`clever even`
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`20:36.19`	`JoshBorke`	`psh, i liked my locals better :-P`
`20:36.23`	`kergoth`	`pastamancer: ah, neat`
`20:36.30`	`JoshBorke`	`kaso: no, but when you think of one, let me know`
`20:36.42`	`Matholum`	`what kind of graph? anykind?`
`20:37.24`	`pastamancer`	`JoshBorke: I'm not a big fan of variable names that start with _. Didn't like it in java either.`
`20:37.52`	`Matholum`	`can you rotate a picture?`
`20:37.53`	`JoshBorke`	`pastamancer: i do it in my code because it lets me know what i've defined locally. i understand :-)`
`20:37.56`	`Matholum`	`i mean texture`
`20:38.02`	`JoshBorke`	`yes`
`20:38.09`	`Matholum`	`how?`
`20:38.11`	`Xolan`	`is there a function to lose focus (editbox)?`
`20:38.24`	`JoshBorke`	`Matholum: it's on the wiki ;-)`
`20:38.39`	`Matholum`	`editbox:EnableKeyboard(false)`
`20:38.41`	`Matholum`	`i think that is it`
`20:38.49`	`JoshBorke`	`no, that disables the keyboard from that box`
`20:38.57`	`JoshBorke`	`you could try SetFocus(false)`
`20:39.01`	`Matholum`	`Josh.... but it is down...`
`20:39.15`	`JoshBorke`	`Matholum: i know :-(`
`20:39.19`	`Matholum`	`oh... i was thinking of keyboard focus... lol`
`20:39.25`	`Xolan`	`wowwiki being down sucks :P need to take local html backups in the future ;P`
`20:39.35`	`Xolan`	`will try that, cheers josh`
`20:39.37`	`Matholum`	`i want the wiki T_T`
`20:39.57`	`TC_Working`	`~moo`
`20:39.58`	`purl`	`mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/`
`20:40.24`	`JoshBorke`	`you're crashing wdn too!`
`20:40.24`	`Matholum`	`lol`
`20:40.26`	`JoshBorke`	`blast you peolpe!`
`20:40.40`	`JoshBorke`	`anyone happen to know how to add a frame to be closed by esc?`
`20:40.42`	`bleetah`	`well, I'm happy.. helm of valor no longer hides my moustache & eyebrows`
`20:40.49`	`Xolan`	`<OnEnterPressed>this:SetFocus(false);</OnEnterPressed> should be correct right? for an editbox that is`
`20:41.10`	`obelus`	`patch = annoyingly slow`
`20:42.11`	`Spekkter`	`ugggh..i think i just wasted my points :(`
`20:42.18`	`Matholum`	`ya... if we can rotate a pic, then graphing should be possible...`
`20:42.32`	`End`	`you can`
`20:42.50`	`Matholum`	`then there you go`
`20:42.55`	`JoshBorke`	`what would you do matholum?`
`20:43.03`	`Xolan`	`just takes some tinkering with points?`
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`20:43.30`	`Matholum`	`ya...`
`20:43.40`	`Matholum`	`can you distort a pic too?`
`20:43.54`	`Matholum`	`like move a corner in?`
`20:44.07`	`Xolan`	`probably`
`20:44.12`	`Xolan`	`haven't tried it though`
`20:44.14`	`JoshBorke`	`don't think so`
`20:44.25`	`Matholum`	`hmmm....`
`20:44.32`	`Xolan`	`nothing's stopping you from trying :)`
`20:44.40`	`End`	`I'm not sure I understand move a corner in`
`20:44.42`	`bleetah`	`i'd suggest as there's a whiteboard mod out there, graphing shouldn't be that hard`
`20:45.13`	`Matholum`	`what the whiteboard mod?`
`20:45.16`	`Xolan`	`End: think a square, grabbing a corner and pulling it towards the center.`
`20:46.19`	`bleetah`	`yeah, there's an orphaned project called whiteboard out there.. the author's updated it so one will be able to draw over your instance maps and other players in raid see the drawings 'n stuff`
`20:46.19`	`End`	`ah`
`20:46.19`	`bleetah`	`can't recall what the update is called, tho`
`20:46.20`	`End`	`probably`
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`20:46.20`	`JoshBorke`	`look up IMBA on curse`
`20:46.23`	`Matholum`	`that sounds really cool`
`20:46.23`	`bleetah`	`could be it`
`20:46.32`	`End`	`I'm not great on messing with texcoords though`
`20:46.35`	`bleetah`	`from memory, only drawing on naxx map supported at the moment`
`20:47.29`	`Qshadowp`	`hmm...`
`20:47.35`	`JoshBorke`	`oh noes! fara's website wient down :-(`
`20:47.44`	`Qshadowp`	`with gatherer, even the buttons of the menu's don't show up as a frame?`
`20:47.46`	`JoshBorke`	`oh wait, wrong one`
`20:47.46`	`Qshadowp`	`thats weird`
`20:47.49`	`bleetah`	`yeah, IMBA's the thing with the updated whiteboard`
`20:47.59`	`Bouvi`	`Is it just me or are some addons not loading?`
`20:48.01`	`bleetah`	`Qshadowp: ?`
`20:48.13`	`bleetah`	`Bouvi: .tocs need updating to 20003?`
`20:48.14`	`JoshBorke`	`Bouvi: did you check teh load out of date addons?`
`20:48.29`	`Qshadowp`	`yea i've got moveanything up and im mouseing over the buttons...nothing`
`20:48.33`	`Qshadowp`	`as if i was mouseing over the world frame`
`20:48.36`	`Matholum`	`ya.. i had to click the load out of date box too`
`20:48.53`	`Bouvi`	`Yes to both it is only some Fubar and Cartographer stuff.`
`20:49.42`	`bleetah`	`Qshadowp: tbh, I haven't tried gatherer since the commits last night`
`20:50.10`	`Bouvi`	`The loadondemand was causing them not to load in the .toc`
`20:50.43`	`Qshadowp`	`heh, the other thing i heard was that apparently ctmod can do the same thing as gatherer?`
`20:50.46`	`Qshadowp`	`whats that about? :P`
`20:51.10`	`End`	`ct_mapmod can`
`20:52.05`	`End`	`(I don't think ct_mapmod does minimap icons though)`
`20:52.25`	`bleetah`	`does it do the distance to the node?`
`20:52.32`	`abug`	`Cide`
`20:52.34`	`Lamex`	`anyone know what is going on with BigWigs, toc version sais 20003 but according to wow it is out of datye`
`20:52.40`	`Cide`	`abug`
`20:53.02`	`Lamex`	`weirx`
`20:53.54`	`Cide`	`CT_MapMod doesn't do distance to node or minimap icons, no`
`20:54.23`	`Qshadowp`	`aww`
`20:54.33`	`Qshadowp`	`i'll probably stick with gatherer then since i have one very sick node database :p`
`20:55.12`	`abug`	`mm servers back up`
`20:55.32`	`Qshadowp`	`abug so i hear theres a major pvp thing going on at the dark portal :P`
`20:55.33`	`abug`	`nothing cide, was just calling you to answer teh questions`
`20:55.38`	`Qshadowp`	`dunno if its on all the realms though.`
`20:59.14`	`JoshBorke`	`why are people messing around the dark portal?`
`20:59.41`	`JoshBorke`	`portal doesn't open for another week...`
`20:59.50`	`bleetah`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=62153747&sid=1&pageNo=1#12`
`21:00.02`	`Bouvi`	`Is there a gatherer update and does it work with Cartograper?`
`21:00.48`	`bleetah`	`^^ post from a blue describing the dark portal opening events`
`21:00.48`	`JoshBorke`	`i see`
`21:00.50`	`bleetah`	`Bouvi: #norganna would be a better place to ask, but I may as well answer here. Yes, SVN is compatible with WoW 2.0.3, just waiting on a couple more things before rolling a new build`
`21:02.26`	`Bouvi`	`What does SVN have to do with it? Maybe I misunderstood. My only problem is Cartographer Opening does not work. Not making notes for Ungoro crystals, soil, etc.`
`21:03.05`	`bleetah`	`um, what does SVN have to do with it? you were requesting info about gatherer, so i told you`
`21:03.44`	`Bouvi`	`I am sorry what does SVN have to do with Gatherer? I just know the addon name.`
`21:03.56`	`JoshBorke`	`o.O`
`21:03.58`	`JoshBorke`	`did that just work?`
`21:03.59`	`bleetah`	`SVN is the system we use to control the source code`
`21:04.09`	`Bouvi`	`ok`
`21:04.17`	`JoshBorke`	`any wowi mods here?`
`21:04.29`	`bleetah`	`add/delete/move/rename/change files, etc. the files are stored there until we're happy with the given 'build', then we create the .zip/.exe foo out of that`
`21:04.33`	`rjaym`	`i asked this question yesterday, but i just want to make sure, none of you have found a way to get access to the blips on the minimap?`
`21:04.44`	`pastamancer`	`rjaym: not possible`
`21:04.49`	`rjaym`	`damnit`
`21:04.53`	`rjaym`	`okay`
`21:04.56`	`kergoth`	`bleetah: why would you use both gatherer and cartographer_opening? serious duplicated functionality there, no?`
`21:05.08`	`pastamancer`	`the best you can do is grab the tooltip when you mouseover a blip`
`21:05.13`	`rjaym`	`ya`
`21:05.30`	`bleetah`	`kergoth: I don't work specifically on gatherer. you'd have to ask Esamynn\|Away`
`21:05.40`	`kergoth`	`er, i meant to ask Bouvi`
`21:05.43`	`kergoth`	`:)`
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`21:05.46`	`kergoth`	`silly tab completion`
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`21:06.01`	`Bouvi`	`I wouldn't Opening is not working so I was looking for an alternative`
`21:06.38`	`rjaym`	`hm, is there any way to move the mouse without user intervention, i heard there wasn't`
`21:06.41`	`Bouvi`	`Itr is loaded but not gathering info on Crystals, etc.`
`21:07.06`	`kergoth`	`Bouvi: opening doesnt work, use Cartographer_Treasure. works flawlessly`
`21:07.14`	`Bouvi`	`Gotya thanks`
`21:07.27`	`bleetah`	`someone in SW general asks "what's so special about the patch?" :-/`
`21:07.46`	`kergoth`	`..`
`21:07.51`	`rjaym`	`uuh what is so special about the patch`
`21:08.35`	`Bouvi`	`Patch, what patch...`
`21:09.33`	`Industrial`	`can I do a={FuncThatReturnsMultipleThings()} ?`
`21:09.44`	`foxlit`	`Yes.`
`21:09.47`	`Industrial`	`cool.`
`21:09.50`	`Lamex`	`rofl`
`21:09.54`	`Lamex`	`that is kinda sweer`
`21:09.57`	`foxlit`	`expensive.`
`21:09.58`	`Lamex`	`*sweet`
`21:10.14`	`rjaym`	`wowwiki down for everyone?`
`21:10.17`	`Industrial`	`not like im running it 30 times every onupdate`
`21:10.17`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`21:10.18`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`21:10.32`	`Lamex`	`rjaym, yes`
`21:10.36`	`rjaym`	`aite`
`21:10.40`	`bleetah`	`it'd suck to be a druid atm, who first levelled to 60 a day or so before 2.0.1`
`21:10.51`	`Lamex`	`bleetah, why?`
`21:11.05`	`bleetah`	`could easily be third re-spec in a month`
`21:11.09`	`Qshadowp`	`is there any way to change the size of the pointer that is me, on the world and minimap?`
`21:11.10`	`bleetah`	`or, about a month`
`21:11.11`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`21:11.14`	`Qshadowp`	`mines really tiny and hard to see :(`
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`21:11.30`	`End`	`Qshadowp: probably`
`21:11.37`	`rjaym`	`qshadowp yes`
`21:11.45`	`Qshadowp`	`rjaym how? :P`
`21:11.48`	`rjaym`	`look at the minimap functions when wowwiki comes back on`
`21:12.05`	`rjaym`	`i just saw it the other day, you can change the icons that appear on the actual minimap`
`21:12.07`	`Qshadowp`	`heh :p`
`21:12.13`	`Qshadowp`	`~poke Guillotine`
`21:12.21`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Guillotine, pokes Guillotine repeatedly, hilarity ensues.`
`21:12.57`	`End`	`It's not just that, but you can locate the model rame, and manipulate it`
`21:13.00`	`rjaym`	`so can anyone think of a way to move the cursor programatically or has that all been protected, any exploit way like create a frame, and confine the cursor to that frame which moves it?`
`21:13.03`	`AnduinLothar`	`whya re there only 11 container id's now and not 20?`
`21:13.10`	`Bouvi`	`Treasurer is not working either. Shows up in the Cartographer menu and is enabled with everything turned on but is not capturing anything.`
`21:13.21`	`Shadowed`	`oh nice scoreboard sorting in 2.0.3`
`21:13.31`	`AnduinLothar`	`ContainerIDToInventoryID(i) now only works 1-11 and not 1-20 like previously`
`21:15.11`	`Industrial`	`what was the equivalent to table.getn(t) again? something with #`
`21:15.15`	`Industrial`	`also, it that faster?`
`21:15.18`	`Shadowed`	`#`
`21:15.20`	`Shadowed`	`#( table )`
`21:15.22`	`Industrial`	`k`
`21:15.28`	`Shadowed`	`wowwiki down for anyone else?`
`21:15.37`	`Gryphen`	`patch day`
`21:15.38`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`21:15.39`	`Gryphen`	`yes`
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`21:16.33`	`Industrial`	`http://pastey.net/4814`
`21:16.36`	`Industrial`	`this sint working for me`
`21:16.36`	`End`	`I'm using http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/`
`21:16.38`	`AnduinLothar`	`ahh... there's onyl 11 containers now. instead of 20`
`21:16.49`	`AnduinLothar`	`NUM_CONTAINER_FRAMES = 11`
`21:16.51`	`Industrial`	`(given that GetGossipOptions returns an equal list of strings)`
`21:16.57`	`Shadowed`	`Isn't it for i=1?`
`21:17.03`	`Industrial`	`>_>`
`21:17.08`	`Industrial`	`more caffeine.`
`21:18.18`	`bleetah`	`mmmm coffee`
`21:18.29`	`Shadowed`	`interesting changes`
`21:18.39`	`Industrial`	`http://www.bullit-energydrink.com/`
`21:18.39`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`21:19.17`	`Shadowed`	`Anyone know what a Warrior has unbuffed in level 70 DPS gear?`
`21:20.10`	`Industrial`	`what gear ;)`
`21:22.01`	`Shadowed`	`Basic 5 man dungeon blues, kind of stuff that a casual would be in lets say`
`21:24.26`	`zenzio`	`Shadowed: I don't know the answer anyway, but which stat do you mean?`
`21:24.32`	`Shadowed`	`ah sorry HP`
`21:24.40`	`Shadowed`	`was trying to figure out how useful LGG is at 70 for non-tanks`
`21:25.15`	`zenzio`	`I heard they can get ~5-6k at 60 with PvP gear, so probably a fair bit more`
`21:25.38`	`Matholum`	`wiki is down and i forget how to make checkboxes! i == ui noob -_-`
`21:25.50`	`Shadowed`	`Sounds like it'll still be a pretty good trinket at 70 then for DPS`
`21:26.01`	`Mery`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:26.05`	`zenzio`	`I'm at 6569 unbuffed HP (tank gear) now, so the LGG will be buffed for me for a while... but in the end it will be a nerf I expect (again, tank gear)`
`21:26.20`	`Matholum`	`what is the xml version?`
`21:26.35`	`Matholum`	`is it in layer or frame`
`21:26.37`	`Shadowed`	`yeah even raid buffed you wont break 10k without flasks really at 60`
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`21:26.45`	`Matholum`	`*frames`
`21:26.56`	`Mery`	`wait "CheckButton"`
`21:27.04`	`Mery`	`it is a frame`
`21:27.15`	`zenzio`	`I expect the LGG change was to prevent us from getting a too big boost at 70... seeing screenshots with 30k sort of sounds like 15% is imba`
`21:27.20`	`Matholum`	`what?`
`21:27.24`	`Matholum`	`thanks!`
`21:27.55`	`Shadowed`	`Pretty much zenzio`
`21:28.10`	`Shadowed`	`it would have been one of the best trinkets for tanking even at 70 and would be pretty hard to beat`
`21:29.20`	`Mery`	`http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:maRy1JhfLSUJ:www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API+wowwiki+api&hl=de&lr=&strip=1`
`21:29.40`	`Mery`	`google is your friend when wowwiki is down :)`
`21:30.27`	`Matholum`	`lol... ya!`
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`21:31.44`	`Industrial`	`#({['a']='b',['c']='d'})`
`21:31.44`	`Industrial`	`why does this return 0`
`21:31.47`	`foxlit`	`Because it's not an array.`
`21:32.19`	`Industrial`	`... ? its a table`
`21:32.32`	`End`	`tables have two parts, hash and array`
`21:32.48`	`Industrial`	`yeah`
`21:32.56`	`Industrial`	`so i cant .. hm.`
`21:32.59`	`End`	`try #({4, ['a']='b',['c']='d'})`
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`21:34.01`	`Industrial`	`k`
`21:34.03`	`End`	`(4 is the only part of the array part)`
`21:34.09`	`JoshBorke`	`HOT DAMN! i'm about to use a meta index!`
`21:34.14`	`Industrial`	`yeah i understand`
`21:34.19`	`Industrial`	`JoshBorke: wewt`
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`21:40.22`	`TheStig`	`what's the new TOC`
`21:40.30`	`AnduinLothar`	`20003`
`21:40.34`	`TheStig`	`thanks`
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`21:40.54`	`JoshBorke`	`Beladona: =D`
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`21:42.24`	`Matholum`	`in a CheckButton, text is what it says next to it right?`
`21:42.36`	`AnduinLothar`	`yes`
`21:42.51`	`Matholum`	`mine isn't working.... -_-`
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`21:43.30`	`Shadowed`	`Oh so thats what the topic is`
`21:43.41`	`foxlit`	`set fontobjects, etc.`
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`21:47.14`	`Matholum`	`<CheckButton name="config_convert" inherits="OptionsCheckButtonTemplate" checked="true" text="Convert while typing">`
`21:47.19`	`Matholum`	`what is wrong w/ that?`
`21:48.23`	`JoshBorke`	`pastecode the entire thing`
`21:48.27`	`JoshBorke`	`and did you check FrameXML.log?`
`21:48.27`	`beerke`	`isn't it UICheckButtonTemplate instead of OptionsCheckButtonTemplate`
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`21:48.51`	`Matholum`	`i will try it ^_^`
`21:48.53`	`JoshBorke`	`look at wdn.wowinterface.com for teh official lua code in online format`
`21:49.11`	`bleetah`	`has wow-i slowed to a crawl again?`
`21:49.37`	`Matholum`	`it's just dead...`
`21:49.42`	`Matholum`	`not slow, dead`
`21:49.47`	`Matholum`	`^_^`
`21:50.30`	`zenzio`	`works for me, just slow`
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`21:50.49`	`Matholum`	`lucky -_-`
`21:51.00`	`Gryphen`	`working slowly here for me`
`21:51.36`	`Bouvi`	`Is there any reason Cartographer_Treasure does not capture every node. It seems random if it will get a crystal, soil or pedal when I open it. Some it marks others it doesn't`
`21:52.06`	`Industrial`	`maybe because they are very close apart and it only adds one or something?`
`21:52.14`	`Industrial`	`er, close apart..`
`21:52.26`	`JoshBorke`	`cry`
`21:52.32`	`Matholum`	`ya, i have a checkbox... but no text...`
`21:52.57`	`Bouvi`	`I thought of that but it did not get one all alone with nothing near it`
`21:53.08`	`Industrial`	`:\`
`21:53.11`	`JoshBorke`	`this should work, right? http://wowi.pastey.net/4815`
`21:53.33`	`Bouvi`	`And some it gets are right next to each other lol.`
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`21:57.31`	`bleetah`	`ah, so the Argent Guardians at the Dark portal don't sort out cross-faction disputes`
`21:58.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`critted for 3600 with a fireball`
`21:58.42`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`jesus`
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`21:59.28`	`zenzio`	`am I imagining things, or did they a while back alter the geometry just by the Dark Portal?`
`21:59.40`	`zenzio`	`I can't recall all the ditches... nor the herb spawn in the middle of the air`
`21:59.48`	`JoshBorke`	`erm, so what's wrong with my pastey?`
`22:00.24`	`Maldivia`	`"Blazing Speed" no longer PROCs while the caster is mounted.... damn, was fun :)`
`22:00.31`	`JoshBorke`	`oh, i see`
`22:00.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`<zenzio> I can't recall all the ditches... nor the herb spawn in the middle of the air`
`22:00.58`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that's been there for a while`
`22:01.09`	`zenzio`	`been a while since I went there =9`
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`22:01.47`	`zenzio`	`I still recall it as a "normal", continuous crater at some point`
`22:01.56`	`End`	`the ditches were a 2.0 thing I believe`
`22:02.04`	`zenzio`	`aha`
`22:02.56`	`Shadowed`	`Bah, apparently hooking BattlefieldFrame_UpdateStatus kills the PVP icon now :(`
`22:03.35`	`Shadowed`	`or maybe thats because I commented out the Original hook call and forgot about it`
`22:04.00`	`zenzio`	`did they fix the pet bar in 2.0.3?`
`22:04.04`	`Maldivia`	`Cairenn ?`
`22:04.34`	`Shadowed`	`They fixed tainting issues, so I would think so zenzio`
`22:04.39`	`Shadowed`	`well some of them`
`22:04.57`	`Maldivia`	`from what I've heard, they fixes pet bar, but broke target frame, and remove people from raids`
`22:05.09`	`Shadowed`	`how? you can taint them easier now`
`22:05.37`	`zenzio`	`remove people from raids?`
`22:05.42`	`zenzio`	`from the actual raid groups?`
`22:06.11`	`Maldivia`	`from what I hear, you can't kick people from raids`
`22:06.15`	`Shadowed`	`Raid frames are fixed and don't screw up trying to move people in combat at least`
`22:06.16`	`zenzio`	`O_O`
`22:06.36`	`zenzio`	`what about the target frames, what's happened to them?`
`22:06.38`	`Shadowed`	`err the raid UI`
`22:06.50`	`Shadowed`	`ohhh nifty`
`22:06.59`	`Shadowed`	`the raid UI shows how many people of each class you have on the right side now`
`22:07.17`	`Shadowed`	`And you can SHIFT + Drag it to pull out that classes raid frame`
`22:07.21`	`Maldivia`	`zenzio: apparently there are some taint issues with the defualt target frame, if you're in combat, it wont show/hide`
`22:07.53`	`zenzio`	`oh god`
`22:07.54`	`Shadowed`	`Kicking people in combat is working fine for me`
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`22:08.15`	`zenzio`	`if that's the case (with the target frame), how can such a thing pass onto live? o_O`
`22:08.20`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: from what I was told, it kicks the last person that joined the raid, and not the actual person`
`22:08.34`	`zenzio`	`"oh yeah, sorry about that... we didn't try targetting anything"`
`22:08.40`	`Maldivia`	`zenzio: haven't tested it for myself, just relaying what I was told`
`22:09.02`	`zenzio`	`I'm just digging around like I always am, waiting for the EU realms to go down =)`
`22:09.02`	`Shadowed`	`one second testing`
`22:09.18`	`zenzio`	`I hope the target-of-target doesn't randomly disappear and reappear anymore`
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`22:09.24`	`zenzio`	`+ frame`
`22:09.54`	`Maldivia`	`zenzio: that was a tainting issue aswell`
`22:10.08`	`zenzio`	`of course, real soon now(tm) I'm going to make my own stuff anyway! :-p`
`22:10.16`	`JoshBorke`	`is the elapsed in OnUpdate in seconds or milliseconds?`
`22:10.18`	`Shadowed`	`Maldivia: Works fine`
`22:10.37`	`zenzio`	`if it's in seconds then I pity your framerate`
`22:10.39`	`Shadowed`	`Invited somebody, had 3 people in the raid, kicked the 2nd person and it kicked him instead of the person who just joined in combat`
`22:11.14`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: ok, I'm just refering to what someone on the americans servers are bitching to me about right now :)`
`22:11.19`	`End`	`what does that have to do with framerate?`
`22:11.29`	`Shadowed`	`Maldivia: Well, they're wrong :p`
`22:11.33`	`End`	`it doesn't have to be a whole number...`
`22:11.45`	`bleetah`	`cide: thanks for update #11 :)`
`22:12.11`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: considering I haven't noticed any of those bugs myself on beta or test, I was thinking the same - but he was very consistant, so figured I'd mention it here :)`
`22:12.56`	`Shadowed`	`Bah`
`22:13.00`	`bleetah`	`um, hmm`
`22:13.05`	`Shadowed`	`guess i still can't change the text of blizzard dropdowns without tainting`
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`22:13.11`	`bleetah`	`about 300 people just vanished from outside the dark portal`
`22:13.59`	`zenzio`	`End: "The important part for us is the "arg1" parameter that we're passing to our function. This is a variable that's being inherited from the WoW system telling us how long it's been since the last update call cycle." -- this leads me to believe that if the value is in seconds, your frames aren't getting updated very often`
`22:14.02`	`JoshBorke`	`anyone know if they buffed the honor earned from killing a faction leader?`
`22:14.09`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: yeah, I'm a bit anoyed about the dropdowns and tains aswell, but just saying "to hell with taint" for the moment`
`22:14.29`	`Shadowed`	`Maldivia: Thats not an option since it taints the duel menu and people would complain :/`
`22:14.30`	`JoshBorke`	`zenzio: and if the value is very small?`
`22:14.34`	`End`	`zenzio: well, it is a decimal`
`22:14.38`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: duel is not longer protected!`
`22:14.53`	`Shadowed`	`Then why am i getting protected action when i try and duel someone`
`22:14.57`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: the only thing that's protected in the drop down menues, are the "Target" option on the guild, who and friend list`
`22:15.01`	`End`	`I'm pretty sure it's values like 0.01 and stuf`
`22:15.07`	`End`	`and this keyboard sucks ass`
`22:15.10`	`zenzio`	`and that would not be a second`
`22:15.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Odd quesiton`
`22:15.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`*question`
`22:15.21`	`End`	`so, the unit of time is seconds`
`22:15.25`	`JoshBorke`	`the units would be in seconds`
`22:15.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Is WoWWiki available anywhere for offline viewing?`
`22:15.29`	`Shadowed`	`Right click -> Duel -> "SSPVP has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI".`
`22:15.35`	`End`	`that's "in seconds" to me`
`22:15.38`	`JoshBorke`	`i guess i should have added the word units?`
`22:15.40`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: hmm, slouken said that "duel" was no longer protected...`
`22:15.48`	`JoshBorke`	`it's in seconds`
`22:15.50`	`Shadowed`	`Whats the duel script?`
`22:15.53`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: and from the patch notes: Fixed taint issues with the unit menus (dueling, dismissing pets, etc.)`
`22:15.53`	`Shadowed`	`Duel();?`
`22:16.28`	`Shadowed`	`Maldivia: It's not unprotected`
`22:16.47`	`Shadowed`	`Or maybe I tainted it somehow, checking`
`22:17.07`	`foxlit`	`Not StartDuel(unit)? :)`
`22:17.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`3 people beating on me and fear still lasted the full duration :/`
`22:17.28`	`Shadowed`	`Yeah it's not unprotected, I can disable all my addons and doing /script StartDuel("target"); will still say that a macro was blocked from a blizzard function`
`22:18.01`	`Shadowed`	`Unless i'm missing something?`
`22:18.17`	`Maldivia`	`hmm`
`22:18.32`	`End`	`I'm not sure what difference disabling your addons would do`
`22:18.38`	`End`	`it is taint either way`
`22:18.55`	`Shadowed`	`Easier to spend a second disabling all addons and making sure`
`22:19.27`	`End`	`making sure of what?`
`22:19.38`	`Shadowed`	`that addons weren't causing it in some obscure way`
`22:20.00`	`End`	`well, I suppose you could taint the macro handler`
`22:20.17`	`End`	`but I'm not sure that'd make any difference either`
`22:20.34`	`Shadowed`	`easier to make sure before asking slouken either way`
`22:20.36`	`bleetah`	`arg, still lots of pet action bar errors tho`
`22:20.37`	`End`	`since you are only trying to find that StartDuel() is protected or not`
`22:20.42`	`Shadowed`	`actuallly`
`22:20.44`	`Shadowed`	`Iriel: ping`
`22:20.58`	`End`	`didn't slouken say petbar errors were being fixed in 2.0.4?`
`22:21.14`	`zenzio`	`is that coming next week, or later?`
`22:21.14`	`bleetah`	`End: hmm, thanks for reminding me. was about to get upset :)`
`22:21.18`	`sysrage`	`god damn i hope mage pet is fixed`
`22:21.36`	`Maldivia`	`sysrage: which part?`
`22:21.47`	`sysrage`	`pet bar disappearing if you summon in combat`
`22:21.50`	`End`	`the petbar issue is really annoying, means I have to be very picky in what AddOns I use`
`22:21.53`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`yjsy esdm`
`22:22.01`	`Bouvi`	`sysrage it is working for me using Bongos`
`22:22.03`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`er, that wasn't really Blizzard's`
`22:22.13`	`Maldivia`	`sysrage: petbar should be fixed - also, you can get pet to cast freeze now, while you're casting a spell yourself`
`22:22.34`	`sysrage`	`maldivia: sweet`
`22:22.41`	`End`	`oo, I like the sound of casting reeze while casting my own spells`
`22:22.50`	`Maldivia`	`Neuro: for unknown reasons, plain defualt UI would sometimes lock up aswell`
`22:23.38`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: from the 2.0.3 concise lise:`
`22:23.40`	`Maldivia`	`Protected Functions`
`22:23.40`	`Maldivia`	`* Duelling, dismissing your pet, and abandoning your pet are no longer protected functions.`
`22:23.56`	`End`	`excluding intervention from macros, I don't understand how the default ui by itself could become tainted`
`22:24.00`	`Shadowed`	`Well one way to find out I guess`
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`22:24.28`	`Maldivia`	`End: me neither, but I've experienced it myself`
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`22:24.51`	`abug`	`wowwiki down makes me QQ`
`22:25.06`	`zenzio`	`try googling`
`22:25.15`	`zenzio`	`blahblah site:wowwiki.com, then use the cache`
`22:25.22`	`abug`	`good idea`
`22:25.30`	`Maldivia`	`WoW forums almost down aswell`
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`22:25.59`	`Lasivian`	`anyone else having bagnon problems?`
`22:26.16`	`Bouvi`	`Not me what kind?`
`22:26.31`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: are you testing on 2.0.3, with the duel thing?`
`22:26.33`	`Tuller`	`make sure you have the most recent version`
`22:26.33`	`Shadowed`	`Maldivia: US forums are up for me`
`22:26.37`	`Shadowed`	`yeah, i'm testing on live Maldivia`
`22:27.13`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: ok, just logged on to EU test servers, and /run StartDuel("target")`
`22:27.15`	`Maldivia`	`works fine`
`22:27.27`	`Maldivia`	`no access violation errors`
`22:27.41`	`End`	`odd`
`22:27.48`	`End`	`so it works on test, but not live?`
`22:28.28`	`bleetah`	`on live, I get an 'out of range' error.. if that helps`
`22:28.35`	`bleetah`	`i should move in range eh`
`22:28.39`	`Shadowed`	`yeah :p`
`22:28.40`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hrm`
`22:29.08`	`bleetah`	`hmm, GroupCalendar got blocked`
`22:29.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm dropping leatherworking and picking something else up...is herbalism good money?`
`22:29.22`	`Shadowed`	`bleetah you're on live?`
`22:29.26`	`bleetah`	`yeah`
`22:29.34`	`zenzio`	`Mr_Rabies: can be`
`22:29.36`	`abug`	`does iriel still have that wiki cache?`
`22:29.36`	`Shadowed`	`kk thanks`
`22:29.51`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`leather's not very useful in bc`
`22:30.04`	`Corrodias`	`and it was useful before it? :(`
`22:30.05`	`TheStig`	`what do you mean`
`22:30.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well, moreso, cott`
`22:30.14`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`corr`
`22:30.19`	`bleetah`	`"a macro script has been blocked..."`
`22:30.20`	`abug`	`cloth's not very useful in bc`
`22:30.28`	`Shadowed`	`Maldivia you ran the test with somebody whos in range I assume?`
`22:30.34`	`Corrodias`	`i found the most worthwhile part of the whole skinning/leatherworking experience to be selling leather to people who thought leatherworking had value`
`22:30.44`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: hmm, weird... I could before, now I can't`
`22:30.50`	`Corrodias`	`it was much more fun than producing useless leather items`
`22:30.52`	`Shadowed`	`Reloadui and try again maybe?`
`22:30.54`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: and both times, with a person standing next to me`
`22:30.55`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well i dropped skinning a while back`
`22:30.55`	`Lasivian`	`Bouvi: Bagnon isn;t showing the bags at the bottom of the inventory window, and each time I click the backpack I get a new inventory window, rather than closing the old one`
`22:31.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`for enchanting`
`22:31.11`	`Corrodias`	`herbalism is the bomb in live, but i couldn't say about the xpac`
`22:31.16`	`Iriel`	`abug I do, but it's not been updated lately`
`22:31.22`	`Corrodias`	`everybody likes potions`
`22:31.30`	`End`	`especially raiders`
`22:31.32`	`bleetah`	`yeah, duel's blocked on live`
`22:31.34`	`Shadowed`	`aha he's back!`
`22:31.35`	`Corrodias`	`you just need to know an alchemist friend`
`22:31.41`	`Bouvi`	`Lasivian: Just opened it working for me with no problems except my bank went bye bye will have to open it again`
`22:31.44`	`Maldivia`	`lol, I'm rich on test servers`
`22:31.56`	`Shadowed`	`Iriel: Do you know if StartDuel wasn't unprotected in 2.0.3 for some reason? I'm testing it on the US live servers and it's still saying blocked`
`22:32.07`	`Maldivia`	`apparently, someone had a bidding war, on a first aid 300+ book, I put on AH for fun... 5100g :)`
`22:32.09`	`Iriel`	`Shadowed: I have no idea`
`22:32.22`	`Shadowed`	`alright`
`22:32.26`	`Matholum`	`would a checkbox be a region or child of the frame?`
`22:32.33`	`bleetah`	`what I wanna know is, why flying from IF -> Nethergarde, it takes the cheap route through SW... but going back it takes the crazy route Via Peru`
`22:32.34`	`Iriel`	`Child`
`22:32.41`	`Matholum`	`thanks!`
`22:32.53`	`Lasivian`	`Bouvi: What version are you running?`
`22:33.00`	`Lasivian`	`6.12.13 here`
`22:33.28`	`Bouvi`	`Same`
`22:33.31`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`herbalism is such a bitch ot level though`
`22:33.32`	`Matholum`	`(when you do GetRegions() the first one is the backdrop if there is one,,,, is there anything like that i have to know for children?)`
`22:33.36`	`Lasivian`	`well, that sucks`
`22:33.38`	`Lasivian`	`thanks`
`22:33.49`	`Corrodias`	`actually, Mr_Rabies, i have to disagree`
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`22:33.58`	`TheStig`	`is there any way to display images in the chat log?`
`22:33.59`	`Corrodias`	`you just run around grabbing plants`
`22:34.03`	`End`	`herbalism isn't too hard`
`22:34.15`	`End`	`enchanting was a bitch`
`22:34.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i need to find a good 1-300 guide`
`22:34.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`eh it wasn't too bad for me`
`22:34.30`	`Corrodias`	`you don't have to kill anything if you can avoid combat, unlike skinning, for example`
`22:34.37`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i picked off the AH like a madman and got from 1-285 in a day`
`22:34.52`	`End`	`well, that's expensive :P`
`22:34.57`	`TC_Working`	`Mr_Rabies2, try the forums, there are some there (when the forums get back up that is)`
`22:35.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`but the nodes aren't EVERYWHERE like skinning :p`
`22:35.01`	`TheStig`	`such as when automaton automatically repairs armor instead of saying Repairing all items for 1g59s18c it shows gold coin silver coin and copper coin instead of g s c ?`
`22:35.01`	`End`	`when I leveled enchanting, I was broke`
`22:35.11`	`End`	`now my alt has herbalism, and I'm pretty well off`
`22:35.18`	`Antiarc`	`Enchating is a great way to make a coin if you do it right.`
`22:35.23`	`Corrodias`	`get the +5 herbalism enchantment for gloves, which helps when levelling`
`22:35.28`	`Antiarc`	`ie, disenchant everything and level it on the excess`
`22:35.29`	`Corrodias`	`it also helps to be a tauren, of course`
`22:35.32`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i basically price gouge the hell out of twinks`
`22:35.42`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i get a ton of money that way with enchanting`
`22:35.43`	`Antiarc`	`<-- made his 900g for his epic mount with enchanting by level 58 :D`
`22:35.45`	`Lasivian`	`enchanting is total hell`
`22:35.56`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`sure, crusader's worth 150g even though it costs me less than 100`
`22:36.00`	`Lasivian`	`we should be able to make enchanting items to sell that people can apply themselves`
`22:36.01`	`Matholum`	`if you can show pics in the chat boxes... anyone who knows about my runes mod think i should stick the output in that?`
`22:36.08`	`TheStig`	`i was lvl 300 enchanting first time around at lvl 45 and i was never broke ever`
`22:36.19`	`TheStig`	`enchanting is nothing compared to other tradeskills i've leveled in other mmorpgs`
`22:36.19`	`Lasivian`	`instead of standing around groveling for people to get an anchant from us and maybe tip`
`22:36.25`	`Corrodias`	`i don't have the business sense or patience to be an enchanter`
`22:36.26`	`bleetah`	`don't forget, crusader's effect (and lifesteal and one other) now scales DOWN after level 60 :)`
`22:36.35`	`Antiarc`	`Blacksmithing is the one I can't stand to do.`
`22:36.45`	`Antiarc`	`It's expensive as hell and doesn't make anything that sells decently.`
`22:36.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`be nice if it scaled down before level 35 too`
`22:36.56`	`Corrodias`	`same for leatherworking`
`22:36.57`	`Xolan_`	`how do I add a delay on gametooltip? if it's possible at all :P`
`22:36.58`	`Lasivian`	`i'm a tailor just so I can make bags`
`22:37.01`	`Corrodias`	`except maybe black dragonscale armor`
`22:37.20`	`Lasivian`	`everyone* needs bags`
`22:37.24`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`okay i'm gonna pick up herbalism i guess`
`22:37.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`bye bye leather`
`22:37.37`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i havent used you in like a year`
`22:37.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`only thing i've used in leatherworking is the salt shaker`
`22:38.00`	`End`	`leatherworking made me go broke when I was leveling up I think`
`22:38.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`same`
`22:38.12`	`Matholum`	`TheStig- if you don't mind, let me know what you find on the pics in the chat boxes ^_^`
`22:38.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i didn't get my mount until level 44`
`22:38.28`	`End`	`same o_O`
`22:38.29`	`Shadowed`	`awesome, target frame wont show up :(`
`22:38.45`	`bleetah`	`Shadowed: I had similar problem. Disabling CTMod fixed it for me :/`
`22:38.48`	`zenzio`	`Mr_Rabies: (might have been said already) leveling herbalism wasn't very hard to me... I just started in a startup zone, kept picking there until it was green or grey, and move on to the next level zone`
`22:39.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well i have travel form to help there :p`
`22:39.09`	`Lasivian`	`Bouvi: Are you running a barmod?`
`22:39.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`should save a lot of time leveling it`
`22:39.23`	`bleetah`	`and yes, I updated to ctmod #11, too`
`22:39.25`	`Bouvi`	`Bongos`
`22:39.34`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`You have unlearned Leatherworking.`
`22:39.34`	`zenzio`	`depends who else is picking herbs in the zone at the time Rabies ;)`
`22:39.41`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`You have unlearned Tribal Leatherworking.`
`22:39.48`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`You now have one free profession.`
`22:39.49`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`:[`
`22:39.57`	`Lasivian`	`amned, me too`
`22:40.13`	`Shadowed`	`was trying to avoid updating CTMod didn't like the new configuration :/`
`22:40.19`	`bleetah`	`best time to do mining/gathering, is either real early in the morning, or during main raiding times on your realm. the rest of the time sucks, so many alts getting around doing the same`
`22:40.22`	`Bouvi`	`Not the latest version of Bongos thou`
`22:40.26`	`Tuller`	`Lasivian: make sure you have the most recent version`
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`22:40.59`	`Bouvi`	`Tuller: He has the same vBagnon I have works for me`
`22:41.17`	`Lasivian`	`Tuller: I do, and I disabled everything else`
`22:41.27`	`Lasivian`	`still fails, gives me "invalid container ID"`
`22:41.44`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`selling my 2 year old salt shaker`
`22:41.58`	`Bouvi`	`Try removing the preference file for it and see if it is corrupt`
`22:41.59`	`bleetah`	`hmm, didn't AL say there's less containers now?`
`22:42.27`	`T0nyD`	`xloot, monkeyquest, Garbage_fu, Location_fu and Durability FU down for the count`
`22:42.52`	`bleetah`	`something about previously 20, but now the max is 11.. dunno, I lost my scrollback :/`
`22:42.53`	`T0nyD`	`all others i have seem to work`
`22:43.05`	`TheStig`	`locationfu is working fine`
`22:43.31`	`Xolan_`	`need a bit of help here. I'm creating sliders from a virtual frame with createframe(), but when they're created the tooltip displays, even if the sliders themselves are hidden :P`
`22:43.44`	`Bouvi`	`Tuller: you are trying to get my wife to kill me right lol wish the old profiles for Bongos worked. Why I have not updated yet lol`
`22:45.03`	`Xolan_`	`anyone? It's just about the last bug before I can release my mod :P`
`22:45.31`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`theres no herb bags bigger than 24 slot?`
`22:45.50`	`Lasivian`	`hrrm, I still had bagnon settings files from the previous version`
`22:48.32`	`Lasivian`	`I wonder if it's because I have a wayfarers knapsack`
`22:49.41`	`Maldivia`	`what's the build number for 2.0.3 ?`
`22:49.49`	`Shadowed`	`20003`
`22:50.20`	`Maldivia`	`build number, not interface versiob`
`22:50.22`	`End`	`isn't that toc, not build?`
`22:50.28`	`Shadowed`	`possibly`
`22:50.32`	`End`	`(not sure why you'd want build hough)`
`22:50.39`	`End`	`(I hate this keyboard)`
`22:50.40`	`Xolan_`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4820 , if anyone could take a look that would be great`
`22:50.57`	`Shadowed`	`6299 that?`
`22:51.13`	`Maldivia`	`ok, so same as latest test/beta`
`22:51.16`	`End`	`that sounds about right`
`22:51.22`	`End`	`hmm`
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`22:56.24`	`JoshBorke`	`yay! i made a cosine interpolated frame fader!`
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`22:56.46`	`TC_Working`	`great!...what for?`
`22:56.58`	`JoshBorke`	`a little minimap texture i have`
`22:57.08`	`JoshBorke`	`when it combat it fades out and back in when out of combat`
`22:57.44`	`TC_Working`	`again, i am going to have to say "what for?"`
`22:57.58`	`Xolan_`	`is newline in ## Notes: \n or \|n?`
`22:58.24`	`Elkano`	`\n I suppose`
`22:58.31`	`Xolan_`	`k`
`22:58.34`	`JoshBorke`	`TC_Working: just because i wanted to have it fade?`
`22:58.52`	`Xolan_`	`:)`
`22:59.11`	`Xolan_`	`UIFrameFadeIn/Out though?`
`22:59.59`	`JoshBorke`	`psh, why use blizzard stuff when you can write your own?`
`23:00.04`	`JoshBorke`	`that and i didn't know ;-)`
`23:00.06`	`Iriel`	`Xolan_: Almost certainly \|n 8-)`
`23:00.16`	`foxlit`	`UIFrameFade has a problem, though`
`23:00.18`	`Xolan_`	`=)`
`23:00.40`	`Matholum`	`what is GetCVar() ???`
`23:00.42`	`JoshBorke`	`i see bela has been busy`
`23:00.48`	`Lasivian`	`finally`
`23:00.53`	`JoshBorke`	`Matholum: a function to return a configuration variable`
`23:01.01`	`Lasivian`	`deleted everything bagnon after exiting, replaced it and it works now :P`
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`23:01.16`	`Tuller`	`hurray`
`23:01.28`	`groll`	`bah wowwiki down :(`
`23:02.00`	`Mery`	`if you just need special pages you can try to find them in google cache`
`23:02.58`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`wow seems to be pretty crashy as of 2.0.3`
`23:03.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i've crashed 3x so far`
`23:03.22`	`Matholum`	`thanks!`
`23:03.57`	`JoshBorke`	`wereHamster\|away: ping!`
`23:05.04`	`groll`	`mery oh ur smart :D how do i find chached pages then? any special side i need to go to on google?=`
`23:05.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/ down :[`
`23:05.49`	`Shadowed`	`"Eris Havenfire yells: Be healed, $g priest:priestess;." I think they broke something`
`23:06.11`	`Bouvi`	`I bet because people did not click the load outdate addons checkmark so all the addon sites are getting flooded.`
`23:06.14`	`subbawt`	`yeah lol i saw that`
`23:06.19`	`End`	`that was broke in 2.0.1 too, Shadowed`
`23:06.31`	`End`	`(at least, I've seen that before)`
`23:06.32`	`Shadowed`	`weird never saw it like that`
`23:06.55`	`End`	`it might be some issue with the servers initializing scripts or something`
`23:07.00`	`Maldivia`	`Shadowed: it's just unparsed spell dbc text :)`
`23:07.10`	`End`	`it wouldn't surprise me if it worked some of the time`
`23:07.15`	`Corrodias`	`does Live have 2.0.3? or are you talking about beta?`
`23:07.23`	`Maldivia`	`US live is 2.0.3`
`23:07.26`	`Maldivia`	`as of today`
`23:07.37`	`Shadowed`	`wouldn't think they would use priest:priestess; as the format`
`23:07.42`	`Corrodias`	`i'd be thrilled if i were playing`
`23:08.55`	`Corrodias`	`well, we use [help]Healing Spell;Attack Spell; in macros, don't we?`
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`23:10.48`	`subbawt`	`im having a strange error with my UI`
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`23:11.02`	`subbawt`	`none of the icons for buttons/items in my bag slots are showing up`
`23:11.10`	`subbawt`	`or if they do, they're the incorrect icon`
`23:11.19`	`subbawt`	`like my robe has the icon for sap`
`23:11.24`	`JoshBorke`	`wb Cairenn`
`23:11.25`	`Xolan_`	`try running the repair tool`
`23:11.31`	`Cairenn`	`thanjs`
`23:11.35`	`Cairenn`	`thanks*`
`23:11.51`	`Cairenn`	`trying to get used to a new keyboard, fingers on the wrong keys`
`23:13.01`	`subbawt`	`should i just have it delete my cache`
`23:13.37`	`Antiarc`	`subbawt: Worth a shot.`
`23:14.36`	`JoshBorke`	`ooo, cairenn, question`
`23:14.42`	`JoshBorke`	`does wowi support uploading files from a website?`
`23:14.53`	`Cairenn`	`ummm`
`23:15.29`	`Cairenn`	`not really, atm, I think, but don't quote me, that's a question better asked of Dolby-wowi than me`
`23:15.43`	`JoshBorke`	`ok, there's no field for it when uploading`
`23:15.54`	`JoshBorke`	`so i tried setting my file to be the URL on an update, dunno if it worked`
`23:16.37`	`subbawt`	`did they fix the AV group queue mods?`
`23:16.42`	`Xolan_`	`can't access wowinterface :(`
`23:17.02`	`Guillotine`	`this event is completely ridiculous. Theres no way anyone but a group of 5 mages spamming rank 1 AE can complete the quests`
`23:17.03`	`subbawt`	`or was that not an undesired behavior`
`23:17.18`	`Cairenn`	`Xolan_: yeah, we're kinda busy atm, I'm having problems getting to it right now too, just hang in there and keep trying`
`23:17.28`	`Xolan_`	`k :)`
`23:17.41`	`End`	`Guillotine: which?`
`23:17.49`	`Guillotine`	`the one near the dark portal`
`23:17.55`	`End`	`ah`
`23:17.56`	`Guillotine`	`are there other new quests for the event?`
`23:18.08`	`End`	`I didn't know of any :P`
`23:18.13`	`subbawt`	`what is this quest you speak of`
`23:18.17`	`End`	`it's all news to me`
`23:18.17`	`Shadowed`	`there is one actually`
`23:19.11`	`Shadowed`	`If you go to the dark portal theres a quest that gives 4.6g and a tabard called "Tabard of the Proctector"`
`23:21.02`	`Guillotine`	`ya, but theres no way to tap the mobs ><`
`23:21.17`	`Shadowed`	`what class are you?`
`23:21.42`	`kahdgarxi`	`so apparently they did release the patch today`
`23:21.54`	`Cairenn`	`yes`
`23:21.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Is there any place to read WoWWiki (namely the API docs)... that isn't wowwiki.com? ;)`
`23:21.58`	`Guillotine`	`Druid`
`23:22.04`	`Shadowed`	`ah yeah you're screwed`
`23:22.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`guillo`
`23:22.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`/targetenemy`
`23:22.21`	`Shadowed`	`that wont do much when the mobs are already tapped`
`23:22.22`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`/cast Moonfire (Rank 1)`
`23:22.31`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`nope but if you spam it nonstop you'll eventually tap one`
`23:22.36`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i got 6 in like 10 mins that way`
`23:22.41`	`Guillotine`	`Mr_Rabies thats what I've been doing. For the past 20 mins and no taps`
`23:22.45`	`Shadowed`	`i just turned on nameplates and tapped mobs through auto attack`
`23:22.52`	`Shadowed`	`and that was even with mages/locks spamming instant AE's`
`23:23.32`	`Xolan_`	`crap, need a screenie :P`
`23:23.45`	`Matholum`	`Scythe- google what you are looking for and click Cached`
`23:23.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Matholum, better than nothing, that's for sure ;)`
`23:24.00`	`Matholum`	`the wowwiki links that is`
`23:24.12`	`Guillotine`	`finally got 1 :D`
`23:24.22`	`Matholum`	`yup ^_^... that's what i am having to do`
`23:24.41`	`Shadowed`	`The fun part of the tabard is the holy nova effect!`
`23:24.48`	`Shadowed`	`to bad you can't spam it`
`23:24.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`what does it do?`
`23:25.03`	`bleetah`	`attracts the chicks`
`23:25.38`	`Shadowed`	`Right clicking on the tabard, it does a holy nova`
`23:25.38`	`bleetah`	`sorry, no, that's my ego`
`23:25.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`apparently aggros nearby mobs`
`23:25.38`	`bleetah`	`yeah, just a holy nova`
`23:25.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`but does no damage`
`23:25.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`jumped in a pack of gnolls and hit it`
`23:27.09`	`kahdgarxi`	`sweet`
`23:27.11`	`kahdgarxi`	`1mb to go`
`23:27.17`	`kahdgarxi`	`and the downloader stops`
`23:27.23`	`kahdgarxi`	`wtb seedws`
`23:27.26`	`kahdgarxi`	`seeds*`
`23:27.29`	`Xolan_`	`could be just the "jumping in a pack of gnolls" part tho :P`
`23:27.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`they were like level 8`
`23:27.51`	`Xolan_`	`oh`
`23:27.51`	`Xolan_`	`:)`
`23:27.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm running around leveling herbalism`
`23:28.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`dropped leatherworking as it was a huge moneysink`
`23:28.09`	`Xolan_`	`yeah`
`23:28.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`jesus the sudden music change at jerod's landing scares me every time`
`23:28.49`	`Maldivia`	`ok, sorry, just have to paste it here: http://www.extrude.se/speldemo/tigerstuds/spel.html - cure little flash game :)`
`23:29.07`	`Xolan_`	`herbs are used in potions which are consumed, in contrast to everything else which you just "have". So herbs will always be a moneymaker I think.`
`23:29.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`zomg kealoggarz`
`23:29.07`	`kahdgarxi`	`yay, something to do while bliz's downloader is being retarded`
`23:30.14`	`Xolan_`	`is there a / command to take a screenie? :P`
`23:30.29`	`Xolan_`	`I don't have enough arms to click everything I need to atm.`
`23:31.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`reminds me of this level in earthworm jim 2, Maldivia`
`23:31.22`	`foxlit`	`I thought you'd gain points if the cat ate those chicks.`
`23:31.32`	`foxlit`	`Turns out it's a herbivore :/`
`23:31.36`	`kahdgarxi`	`Maldivia - this game OWNS`
`23:31.41`	`Shadowed`	`Good news`
`23:31.47`	`Shadowed`	`JoinBattlefield( 0, 1 ) fixed for AV, no more people whining`
`23:32.23`	`End`	`fixed in which way?`
`23:32.45`	`Shadowed`	`It wont group or solo queue you anymore for AV`
`23:32.53`	`End`	`ah`
`23:33.13`	`foxlit`	`Don't follow :(`
`23:34.09`	`alcaras`	`it nerfs that addon, right?`
`23:34.17`	`Shadowed`	`Yes and no`
`23:34.40`	`Shadowed`	`It means that you can no longer queue everyone at the same time easly, but everyone can still queue at the same time`
`23:35.08`	`foxlit`	`So what you're saying is: join as group worked before, they just removed the button?`
`23:35.24`	`Maldivia`	`kahdgarxi: what's your score then ?`
`23:35.26`	`Shadowed`	`no, it queued you at the same time it didn't always get you in at the same time`
`23:35.27`	`End`	`the button was disabled, but the action was not`
`23:35.29`	`kahdgarxi`	`i just died with 131`
`23:35.46`	`kahdgarxi`	`Maldivia - you?`
`23:35.49`	`End`	`that part I didnt realize`
`23:36.07`	`foxlit`	`It's rather obvious if you consider how AVs get filled.`
`23:36.11`	`Maldivia`	`kahdgarxi: at the moment 170`
`23:36.19`	`kahdgarxi`	`Maldivia - nice`
`23:36.23`	`kahdgarxi`	`that was my first try`
`23:36.25`	`foxlit`	`So you'd presumably instruct clients in the "wrong" AV to drop queue and try again?`
`23:37.17`	`Maldivia`	`kahdgarxi: ended at 194 :\|`
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`23:37.36`	`kahdgarxi`	`Maldivia - :(`
`23:38.12`	`Maldivia`	`kahdgarxi: my main problem is, in the end, where you have to be very fast, I end up moving the mouse outside the frame, so it pauses, which kind of ruins the rhythm`
`23:38.53`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`the game laughed at me and called me a slut >:\|`
`23:39.15`	`Shadowed`	`I wonder what happens if I hook and unhook something on every OnUpdate`
`23:39.29`	`Maldivia`	`doesn't really many any sense...`
`23:40.15`	`JoshBorke`	`lol Shadowed, it'd probably not do what you want it to do`
`23:40.21`	`kahdgarxi`	`Maldivia - =/, yeah you do have to get moving really fast`
`23:40.33`	`Shadowed`	`Damn tainting :(`
`23:40.53`	`kahdgarxi`	`why must every new version break evey addon =/`
`23:41.05`	`Shadowed`	`every new version doesn't break every addon`
`23:41.10`	`Kirov`	`kahdgarxi - Blizzard just wants to make us feel needed.`
`23:41.14`	`kahdgarxi`	`it seems that way ><`
`23:41.22`	`foxlit`	`Meh, that av addon is just evil.`
`23:41.47`	`Bouvi`	`None of mine broke`
`23:42.14`	`foxlit`	`Comes in a .lua containing no linebreaks, calls UnitFactionGroup more times than any other function :/`
`23:42.28`	`T0nyD`	`xloot, garbagefu, monkey quest, eql3 are messed up`
`23:42.51`	`JoshBorke`	`how is garbagefu messed up?`
`23:43.09`	`kahdgarxi`	`itembonususfu, tofu, heyfu`
`23:43.13`	`kahdgarxi`	`are also all messed up`
`23:43.20`	`T0nyD`	`SetOwner() in gratuitylib`
`23:43.37`	`Bouvi`	`I am using toFu and ItemBonusesFu with no problems`
`23:43.42`	`kahdgarxi`	`T0nyD - same problem for the *fu addons i mentioned`
`23:43.55`	`T0nyD`	`garbagefu shows up, just doesn't work`
`23:44.08`	`T0nyD`	`Error: <unnamed>:SetOwner(): Can't set owner to self`
`23:44.08`	`T0nyD`	`File: ...uBar_DurabilityFu\libs\Gratuity-2.0\Gratuity-2.0.lua`
`23:44.08`	`T0nyD`	`Line: 51`
`23:44.14`	`kahdgarxi`	`Bouvi - what version of fubar?`
`23:44.16`	`Bouvi`	`Download the latest gratuitylib from http://www.wowace.com/files/`
`23:44.30`	`T0nyD`	`my version was from the svn`
`23:45.02`	`Bouvi`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/GratuityLib/GratuityLib-r23539.zip I downloaded that and it fixed everythnig I had fu problems with`
`23:45.13`	`T0nyD`	`what did they change with quest stuff?`
`23:47.01`	`T0nyD`	`or did they UNDO the last one?`
`23:47.24`	`Maldivia`	`haha, "Thanks, these have been reported. We'll get some demons in there to attack you as soon as possible." - Drysc from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=63896606&sid=1`
`23:48.57`	`Tain`	`haha Fox News reporter writes about how Sin City really is Sin City and how terrible that is. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242571,00.html`
`23:49.35`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Mike-N-Go (n=mjgoosse@64.193.93.197)`
`23:50.08`	`Shadowed`	`ugh tainting is starting to annoy me`
`23:50.20`	`JoshBorke`	`Shadowed: what are you trying to do?`
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`23:50.22`	`T0nyD`	`starting?`
`23:50.24`	`T0nyD`	`damn`
`23:50.26`	`kahdgarxi`	`pardon the noobdom, but what's tainting?`
`23:50.36`	`T0nyD`	`heh`
`23:50.53`	`T0nyD`	`tainted addons can't access blizzard calls to change bars, pages, etc`
`23:50.58`	`Shadowed`	`Can't hook AcceptBattlefieldPort because when you right click on the alliance/horde shield icon when queued for a BG it taints the dropdown...which taints dueling dropdown`
`23:51.11`	`JoshBorke`	`while in combat`
`23:51.16`	`foxlit`	`securehook?`
`23:51.24`	`Tain`	`Is it too late to ask that they call "tainting" something else?`
`23:51.42`	`T0nyD`	`haha`
`23:51.42`	`T0nyD`	`yes`
`23:51.42`	`Shadowed`	`Can't securehook it because it's for confirmation if you really want to leave a battleground`
`23:51.42`	`Tain`	`Damn.`
`23:51.43`	`JoshBorke`	`~tant`
`23:51.48`	`T0nyD`	`your last name isn't "ting" is it?`
`23:51.51`	`foxlit`	`~taint`
`23:51.52`	`kergoth`	`i quite like the term, used to it from the whole linux kenrel binary module tainting thing`
`23:51.54`	`foxlit`	`? :)`
`23:52.00`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-58-241-33.twcny.res.rr.com)`
`23:52.00`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`23:52.10`	`kergoth`	`hey clad`
`23:52.31`	`cladhaire`	`heyas`
`23:52.32`	`Tain`	`Yeah kergoth but I had to turn off IRC highlighting on my nick as soon as TBC beta started.`
`23:52.33`	`kahdgarxi`	`poor wowace.com`
`23:52.36`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`23:52.36`	`kahdgarxi`	`it's getting owned`
`23:52.43`	`JoshBorke`	`~taint`
`23:52.45`	`purl`	`it has been said that taint is being touched by tain`
`23:52.55`	`Tain`	`I'm offended by that.`
`23:53.05`	`Tain`	`'tain' should be capitalized.`
`23:53.10`	`Shadowed`	`Yeah, i'd rather my UI is tainted over being touched by tain`
`23:53.13`	`Shadowed`	`sorry Tain`
`23:53.21`	`Kirov`	`tAIN?`
`23:53.24`	`JoshBorke`	`~taint`
`23:53.26`	`purl`	`i guess taint is being touched by Tain`
`23:53.32`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`23:53.46`	`Tain`	`It's hard do argue.`
`23:54.07`	`Shadowed`	`hmm`
`23:54.14`	`Shadowed`	`PetDismiss() was protected before 2.0.3 right?`
`23:54.21`	`End`	`yes`
`23:54.27`	`kahdgarxi`	`anybody know if there's any way to turn off the super-awesome time-wasting fade in on the login screen?`
`23:54.30`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Is this correct?`
`23:54.35`	`Mike-N-Go`	`TBC is out?`
`23:54.38`	`bleetah`	`lol kahdgarxi`
`23:54.45`	`kahdgarxi`	`Mike-N-Go - next week`
`23:54.46`	`End`	`2.0.3 is out`
`23:54.49`	`Shadowed`	`Weird`
`23:54.54`	`End`	`TBC isn't out til next tuesday`
`23:55.04`	`foxlit`	`with monday maintainance, probably`
`23:55.13`	`bleetah`	`and if you're in a place like australia... ;-)`
`23:55.17`	`Shadowed`	`PetDismiss() = not protected, StartDuel() = protected`
`23:55.18`	`Mike-N-Go`	`"The Burning Crusade: Patch Released!" --worldofwarcraft.com`
`23:55.25`	`End`	`either that, or live maintainance`
`23:55.28`	`Maldivia`	`kahdgarxi: the time-wasting fade in, is a trojan scan, they just removed the dialog showing it :)`
`23:55.30`	`Xolan_`	`read: patch ;P`
`23:55.33`	`Mike-N-Go`	`I thought it was not due for another week.`
`23:55.35`	`End`	`(like they had a ew weeks ago)`
`23:55.35`	`kahdgarxi`	`Mike-N-Go - yeah, the patch`
`23:55.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`O_o`
`23:55.42`	`kahdgarxi`	`Maldivia - omg!`
`23:55.50`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Male Night elf Rogue in guild <Feminine Fatale>`
`23:55.53`	`End`	`(btw, my f key sucks)`
`23:55.55`	`bleetah`	`Mike-N-Go: the supporting patch is out. the actual content isn't released yet ;-)`
`23:56.07`	`Tain`	`Sapped girls can't say no.`
`23:56.12`	`Mike-N-Go`	`:P`
`23:56.15`	`TheStig`	`hmm`
`23:56.26`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Or, currently unavailable for access.`
`23:56.31`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Smeltn (n=smeltn@adsl-152-94-65.asm.bellsouth.net)`
`23:56.31`	`TheStig`	`is there any way to change stances within /castsequence without resetting the command?`
`23:56.55`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`resetting the wha`
`23:57.00`	`Tain`	`Of all the changes I think not losing combo points on a target until you get points on another target might be my favorite.`
`23:57.19`	`TheStig`	`alright if you make a macro with a [nostance:4] Dire Bear Form or whatever in it`
`23:57.30`	`TheStig`	`the first one works, but if you change the stance in the middle`
`23:57.33`	`Xolan_`	`"The title "Scarab Lord" can now be chosen in game for select players." o_O`
`23:57.35`	`TheStig`	`it resets back to the beginning`
`23:57.42`	`kahdgarxi`	`taxi's make noise now >.>`
`23:57.47`	`Nom-`	`<3 TBC`
`23:57.52`	`Guillotine`	`Xolan_: people who banged the gong and got the scarab mount`
`23:57.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i didnt know that stig`
`23:57.56`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hrm`
`23:57.58`	`Xolan_`	`crap :)`
`23:57.58`	`kahdgarxi`	`Xolan_ - it's for the first person on the realm to ring the gong`
`23:58.02`	`cladhaire`	`I think my favorite part about the bear nerf is..`
`23:58.03`	`cladhaire`	`oh wait`
`23:58.04`	`Nom-`	`Now just a few more days and I can roll my belfadin`
`23:58.21`	`Smeltn`	`6:57:pm] <kahdgarxi> taxi's make noise now >.>`
`23:58.23`	`Smeltn`	`what noise?`
`23:58.25`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Humm, that tweaked me when I thought that it was due next week :)`
`23:58.44`	`kahdgarxi`	`Smeltn - well, the windrider i'm on right now is like growling occasionally`
`23:58.47`	`Tain`	`Smeltn: "Get out of my cab you jerk!"`
`23:58.50`	`Smeltn`	`cool`
`23:58.56`	`Smeltn`	`affirm Tain`
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`23:59.16`	`Mike-N-Go`	`Smart to get most of the patching done a week in advance :)`
`23:59.26`	`kahdgarxi`	`yeah, the background downloader owns`
`23:59.36`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`its the taxi from who framed roger rabbit`
`23:59.39`	`Nom-`	`I forsee that they're just going to try and do rolling restarts next week with no downtime`
`23:59.43`	`bleetah`	`lol Mr_Rabies2`
`23:59.50`	`kahdgarxi`	`Mr_Rabies2 - that taxi owns`
`23:59.58`	`kahdgarxi`	`heck`
`23:59.59`	`kahdgarxi`	`that movie owns`

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