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| 20:22.14 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Happy Valentine's Day! |
| 20:22.44 | bleetah | ~botsnack |
| 20:22.44 | purl | bleetah: :) |
| 20:22.48 | Kindari | hmm i think setting a layer i hmm |
| 20:22.57 | bleetah | purl++ |
| 20:23.02 | Mike-N-Go | ~~~~ |
| 20:23.03 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT mike-n-go!!! |
| 20:23.12 | Esamynn | ROFL |
| 20:23.13 | Mike-N-Go | ~~~~~~ |
| 20:23.17 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots mike-n-go in the head three times. |
| 20:23.22 | Esamynn | hahaha |
| 20:23.27 | Mike-N-Go | ~~ |
| 20:23.29 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 20:23.34 | Mike-N-Go | ~~~ |
| 20:23.35 | purl | I HATE YOU, mike-n-go!!! |
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| 20:23.48 | JohsBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 20:23.49 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn|afk's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn|afk |
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| 20:24.02 | Mike-N-Go | ~comfort purl |
| 20:24.03 | purl | There, there, purl. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:24.13 | Esamynn | ............ |
| 20:24.22 | Esamynn | ~poke Mike-N-Go |
| 20:24.24 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Mike-N-Go, pokes Mike-N-Go repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:24.34 | bleetah | ahhh, purl is blootbot.... I follow now :) |
| 20:24.35 | Mike-N-Go | ~bzfrag Esamynn |
| 20:24.37 | purl | ACTION destroys Esamynn with a guided missile |
| 20:24.40 | JohsBorke | quit that! he'l break! |
| 20:24.50 | Esamynn | ~lart JohsBorke |
| 20:24.58 | JohsBorke | ~whalebomb Esamynn |
| 20:24.59 | purl | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at Esamynn and hides. |
| 20:25.02 | Mike-N-Go | We don't abuse purl, that much.. |
| 20:25.06 | Esamynn | ~whaleparry JohsBorke |
| 20:25.07 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry JohsBorke's attacks. |
| 20:25.29 | wowi-bot | what's up, Cairenn|afk |
| 20:25.39 | wowi-bot | Legorolo: that doesn't look right |
| 20:25.43 | wowi-bot | I haven't seen 'tryruby', krka |
| 20:25.48 | wowi-bot | bonjour, Deathface |
| 20:25.50 | bleetah | wow, infobot dopn't like running in screen(1) |
| 20:25.54 | Esamynn | O_O |
| 20:25.54 | wowi-bot | what's up, Mike-N-Go |
| 20:26.09 | Mike-N-Go | o: |
| 20:26.12 | Mike-N-Go | :O * |
| 20:26.13 | bleetah | I had an infobot running in a detached screen session |
| 20:26.20 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:26.26 | bleetah | soon as I re-attached, it woke up again |
| 20:26.42 | bleetah | and proceeded to process the past 8 hours of chatter |
| 20:26.45 | Kindari | how does frameStrata differ with level |
| 20:27.59 | Thrae | bleetah: Make sure you aren't loading anything like screen_away.pl |
| 20:28.00 | Kindari | and are the levels relative to each other in any way? like can i do level Background on one layer, have another frame at level artwork, and in that frame have a background level texture that is above the first background level texture? |
| 20:28.30 | bleetah | Thrae: yeah, that'd prolly do it (irssi's doing something like that) |
| 20:29.02 | Thrae | bleetah: irssi doesn't include any scripts, it's probably only you put in your main config file to load automatically for your regular sessions |
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| 20:31.48 | bleetah | Thrae: aye, (s/irssi/my irssi/) |
| 20:32.04 | bleetah | although I should be truly heretical and use gaim-text in that screen session |
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| 20:51.36 | Kindari | what's the diffrence betwee frameLayer and drawLayer and frameStrata? |
| 20:53.25 | Iriel|Working | There;s a wiki page about that, let me see if I can find it |
| 20:54.17 | Cide | I think it's this one: http://www.wowwiki.com/How_UI_Is_Rendered |
| 20:54.38 | Iriel|Working | That's the one |
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| 20:55.42 | Kindari | so |
| 20:55.44 | Kindari | ok sweet |
| 20:56.01 | Kindari | this means each frameStrata has the full set of drawLayers in it? |
| 20:58.11 | Cide | every frame has the full set of draw layers |
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| 20:59.13 | Kindari | cool |
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| 21:09.01 | TC_Working | http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/valentines-trailer2/dabiris_english.html |
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| 21:14.12 | Kindari | it MIGHT be alive! |
| 21:14.14 | Kindari | ... |
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| 21:44.00 | Tain | Happy VD! |
| 21:44.36 | zenzelezz | veneral disease? |
| 21:44.45 | bleetah | must be |
| 21:44.50 | bleetah | 'coz valentines day was yesterday |
| 21:45.16 | wobin | IT's true |
| 21:46.31 | wobin | rofl I love that dabiri's trailer =) |
| 21:47.08 | scotepi | can a function be a string? |
| 21:47.57 | wobin | howso? |
| 21:48.10 | cogwheel|work | scotepi: not sure what you mean... values are exactly whatever type they are... a string is a string, a function is a function... |
| 21:48.20 | scotepi | if a function can be a string, ( think they can) then why chant there be a frame work for remote mods? like have a mod send its self over the addon channel |
| 21:48.25 | wobin | (although with loadstring....) |
| 21:49.22 | cogwheel|work | scotepi: that would actually be possible, though it wouldn't integrate itself very well with the normal addon system because there's no way to save arbitrary files |
| 21:49.46 | cogwheel|work | however, you *could* have simple lua code transfered as strings and compiled on the receiving end. |
| 21:49.55 | wobin | well, run anyway |
| 21:50.13 | scotepi | it could be like a framework though... one person has the mod installed, anyone with the framework can access the mod |
| 21:50.14 | wobin | and it'd also make debugging horrific =) |
| 21:50.21 | wobin | well no |
| 21:50.31 | wobin | you'll need the framework to interpret the sent code |
| 21:50.44 | wobin | cause it's not selfexecuting |
| 21:50.46 | cogwheel|work | scotepi: you couldn't just do it with arbitrary mods like that |
| 21:50.48 | scotepi | yeah thats what i ment, everyone needs the framework |
| 21:50.55 | wobin | oh yeah |
| 21:51.18 | cogwheel|work | it would have to be code designed to work with the framework. The code itself would have to be savedvariables of the framework itself |
| 21:51.29 | scotepi | but the mod that gets sent over the frame work, only 1 person would need |
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| 21:51.52 | Karrion | security would be an issue... |
| 21:51.58 | wobin | scotepi: well, that also opens the field for trojans =) |
| 21:52.08 | scotepi | yeah i know ;) |
| 21:52.13 | scotepi | same thing as HTML |
| 21:52.48 | wobin | SQL inject attacks! |
| 21:53.20 | scotepi | string = function Hax() gdisband() end |
| 21:53.25 | Tain | SQL just wants some Valentines Day lovin |
| 21:54.06 | Iriel|Working | Nobody in their right mind would install a remote code execution addon |
| 21:54.26 | scotepi | people use IE/FF or any other web browser |
| 21:54.27 | Iriel|Working | And anyone who tried to distribute one without fully disclosing its abilities would be rapidly yelled at by the community |
| 21:54.28 | scotepi | so... |
| 21:54.34 | scotepi | its kind of the same thing |
| 21:54.48 | kergoth | yelled at would be a very kind way of putting it, methinks |
| 21:55.11 | Cairenn|afk | ~botsnack |
| 21:55.11 | purl | :), Cairenn|afk |
| 21:55.47 | Iriel|Working | Ephemeral (I think that's the name of it) was an addon that had its own very limited scripting facilities, but tightly limited to only a few permitted functions |
| 21:55.55 | Iriel|Working | I'm not sure if it's still around |
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| 21:58.13 | bleetah | as an example, there's a function in btmscanner where you can write your own baserule for purchasing.. i suspect it wouldn't take much to have that distributed/set via the party/guild addon chan... not that we would ;) |
| 22:03.27 | scotepi | Iriel|Working: are you still updating aftercast? i just tried using it yesterday and i got spammed with unexpected messages |
| 22:04.16 | Cide | were they spammed after casting? |
| 22:04.19 | Tem|Food | Last I heard, it was working-ish |
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| 22:07.21 | scotepi | After, befor, during |
| 22:07.52 | scotepi | i happend some on my lock (mostly channeling) but i got it a tone on my warrior |
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| 22:20.21 | Iriel|Working | It's working-ish, as tem notes |
| 22:20.25 | Iriel|Working | The 2.0 event model has some challenges |
| 22:20.47 | Iriel|Working | I posted a thing about it some time ago on the UI forum.. I need some uninterrupted non-work time to figure out what I want to do |
| 22:21.56 | Tierrie|Work | Iriel is there a stack tracer for wow? |
| 22:22.11 | AnduinLothar | in which way |
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| 22:22.20 | AnduinLothar | as in on error? |
| 22:22.58 | AnduinLothar | ImprovedErrorFrame print a stack trace when there's an error |
| 22:24.13 | WobWork | most of the bugcatchers do, I know bugsack does, I'm sure swatter would |
| 22:24.28 | WobWork | at least where there is a stack to trace |
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| 22:25.15 | abug | lawl @ the victoria's secret ads on wowinterface |
| 22:25.23 | Cairenn | >< |
| 22:25.40 | abug | makes me tempted to buy some |
| 22:25.40 | scotepi | wow interface has ads? |
| 22:26.19 | AnduinLothar | wow thongs? |
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| 22:27.06 | Cairenn | http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?productID=892 |
| 22:27.35 | abug | lawl |
| 22:28.08 | AnduinLothar | hair |
| 22:28.15 | abug | tan lines |
| 22:28.33 | Tain | That is a horrible Photoshop job. |
| 22:28.39 | AnduinLothar | yeah, it is |
| 22:28.48 | cogwheel|work | it looks like they even made the thong skimpier than it actually was... |
| 22:28.52 | Tain | That's like borderline offensive to me. |
| 22:29.02 | Tain | Not the image, the way they hacked it up. |
| 22:29.35 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 22:30.20 | AnduinLothar | my poor sensitive eyes? |
| 22:31.35 | Tain | I have some standards! |
| 22:31.38 | cogwheel|work | are the loading screen tips stored in .lua files? |
| 22:31.43 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 22:31.58 | Cairenn | okay, http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/6792/ instead then |
| 22:32.13 | AnduinLothar | login required plx |
| 22:32.38 | AnduinLothar | requested entity too large is a good one too tho, but i dont think my girl would wear it |
| 22:32.45 | Tain | hehe I saw those Cairenn, those are funny. |
| 22:33.37 | Cairenn | I want to get a pair with this on it: http://chaosklub.free.fr/blog/public/you_shall_not_pass.jpg |
| 22:34.09 | TC_Working | why?, having problems with trespassers now? |
| 22:34.35 | AnduinLothar | >.< |
| 22:34.36 | Cairenn | I just think it's funny |
| 22:34.47 | Tain | hehe |
| 22:34.52 | Tain | Flee, you fools! |
| 22:34.57 | bleetah | i own a http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/78ae/ and the apparently now unavailable men's version of http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/38e8/ |
| 22:35.48 | AnduinLothar | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/388b/ |
| 22:38.16 | Cairenn | I 2 ThinkGeek |
| 22:38.33 | AnduinLothar | i have a http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?productID=12 and http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?productID=384 |
| 22:38.56 | Kindari | is there any way to subdivide within the layer levels? |
| 22:39.23 | Cairenn | okay, that's just tasteless |
| 22:39.28 | bleetah | I also have http://www.ntkmart.co.uk/ntkmart.cgi#Admin and http://www.ntkmart.co.uk/ntkmart.cgi#Elite |
| 22:39.31 | kergoth | quite |
| 22:39.43 | krka | cairenn, does that mean that now we can use the following phrase too? "I 2 U 2" |
| 22:39.54 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:40.02 | TC_Working | at least it's keeping people abreast of the issue |
| 22:40.06 | krka | this path will surely lead to madness! |
| 22:40.20 | kergoth | heh, the picture on http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=805 is awesome |
| 22:40.27 | cogwheel|work | Kindari: what do you mean? |
| 22:40.28 | TC_Working | i know i complain when you do it, but i couldnt help it |
| 22:40.33 | WobWork | I don't know what all the hoohaa is about =P |
| 22:40.33 | Cairenn | hahhaha, that's cute |
| 22:41.35 | Kindari | i've got the "frameStrata" options, then there's the drawLayers (background, border, artwork, overlay, highlight)..... is there anything i can do within say "border" to make one graphic be on top? |
| 22:42.45 | Kindari | i'm trying to add another statusbar to the playerframe that has multiple textures depending on what you're seeing |
| 22:42.58 | AnduinLothar | i also have a sightly different version of http://www.cafepress.com/buy/sleep/-/pv_design_prod/p_1737025.64058068/pNo_64058068/id_13178653/?click=true&CMP=KNC-F-ALL |
| 22:43.29 | cogwheel|work | Kindari: I'm pretty sure you can't get any reliable behavior like that... |
| 22:43.36 | Kindari | ok |
| 22:43.55 | Kindari | i just realized text always displays on top of a texture in the same drawLayer so i'm gonna play with that |
| 22:43.58 | bleetah | this is not an ad, just saying it's my biggest selling item http://www.cafepress.com/bleeter.22262937 (all of 1 in about 2 years) |
| 22:44.55 | AnduinLothar | kindari: check out how i did layering in ChatBar buttons |
| 22:45.03 | Tierrie|Work | Kindari: SetFrameLevel? |
| 22:45.15 | cogwheel|work | I want the bumper sticker: Free Brake Inspection - Tailgate For Details |
| 22:45.20 | AnduinLothar | I think there are more layers than were availible so i nested frames |
| 22:45.24 | Kindari | FrameLevel is not the same as the levels in layers |
| 22:45.59 | Cairenn | heh cogwheel|work |
| 22:46.56 | Kindari | what do you mean by "nested frames" ? |
| 22:47.55 | AnduinLothar | check the code, i dont remember, but i made a way to have more layers than provided |
| 22:48.19 | Kindari | oh, i see |
| 22:48.21 | bleetah | i thought about creating a 'I stop for Un'goro soil' bumper sticker |
| 22:48.46 | bleetah | coz for a while there, when I was first levelling, I couldn't drive past a freakin' pile of dirt IRL without thinking about it |
| 22:48.46 | Kindari | when you nest the frame inside another frame, the inner frames sit on top the outer ones... or something like that |
| 22:48.52 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 22:48.53 | Tierrie|Work | "I know where Nagrand Cherries come from" |
| 22:49.01 | bleetah | Tierrie|Work: hah |
| 22:49.14 | bleetah | almost the same place as eggs |
| 22:49.16 | kergoth | hahah |
| 22:50.27 | AnduinLothar | wow, i jsut got 3 back to back reckonings... hax.. |
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| 23:00.02 | Tierrie|Work | has anyone heard Norah Jones latest CD? |
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| 23:23.21 | Kindari | i still don't achieve the desired result due to nesting... very odd |
| 23:23.36 | AnduinLothar | took me a while |
| 23:26.27 | Kindari | it appears nesting does the same thing as, say, changing the level from background to border... raising or lowering it one level |
| 23:27.28 | AnduinLothar | right, but you can combine them |
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| 23:28.13 | Grem | Is there a way to check if an item is sellable? |
| 23:28.26 | Grem | Or the value of an item in your inventory (if the merchant frame is open) |
| 23:29.49 | Kindari | i mean, there is nothing between frameStrata=Background, level=Background, textures and frameStrata=Background, level=Border - text renders before the textures in any given level, but there's not a way to make one texture render before or after another |
| 23:30.41 | AnduinLothar | not sure what you're trying to do |
| 23:31.14 | Kindari | in my playerframe i'm trying to draw a line on top of the existing playerframe |
| 23:31.29 | Kindari | an xp bar actually |
| 23:31.30 | AnduinLothar | where? |
| 23:31.45 | Kindari | right under my mana bar - just likePlayerExpBar or Gypsy mod did |
| 23:32.00 | Kindari | i can get one of two things to work |
| 23:32.02 | AnduinLothar | so what's the problem? |
| 23:32.38 | Kindari | I can either get my grahpic for my bar to display correctly with the text from the manabar showing on top of it, but my statusbars are on top of my grahpic |
| 23:32.40 | Kindari | OR |
| 23:32.53 | Kindari | status bars are under my graphic, but so is the manabar's text |
| 23:33.44 | AnduinLothar | well the default frames have the bars behind the border graphic and the text on top |
| 23:33.47 | Kindari | so the diplay order either goes Grahpic -> mana text and statusbar or mana text and statusbar -> graphics |
| 23:33.56 | Kindari | right |
| 23:34.02 | AnduinLothar | so why not do that? |
| 23:35.30 | cogwheel|work | Grem: i think you have to move the item out of your inventory and then do tooltip hooking... (i could be wrong on the second part) |
| 23:35.49 | Kindari | i will have an answer in a moment |
| 23:35.55 | Grem | Move it out of my inventory? what do you mean? |
| 23:36.18 | cogwheel|work | off your character and into your bag... |
| 23:36.22 | bleetah | is it just my imagination, or has telaar's inn lost it's 'rested' status? |
| 23:36.28 | AnduinLothar | but the bar as BORDER, put the border as ARTWORK and the text in OVERLAY |
| 23:36.42 | Grem | k |
| 23:36.48 | cogwheel|work | bleetah: I've had funny rested problems in a few different inns in outland |
| 23:37.04 | cogwheel|work | even HH I sometimes have to leave and go back in after logging in at the inn |
| 23:38.32 | bleetah | cogwheel|work: hmm, thanks. maybe it's just not me losing my mind ;) |
| 23:39.44 | bleetah | cogwheel|work: yup, relogging fixed it |
| 23:40.58 | Tierrie|Work | whooo hoo WoWWiki is dead |
| 23:41.05 | scotepi | again |
| 23:41.15 | scotepi | works for me |
| 23:41.16 | TC_Working | and this is a good thing? |
| 23:42.02 | scotepi | whould wow wiki technicly be warcraft wiki |
| 23:42.03 | Kindari | anduin, i could do that for my bar, but the default text overlay for the manabar is still on the BACKGROUND layer, so that text will go under the top of my frame |
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| 23:42.13 | Kindari | because it's bigger than the actual mana bar |
| 23:42.58 | AnduinLothar | why is your bar covering the mana bar? |
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| 23:45.16 | Kindari | it's not |
| 23:45.19 | Kindari | ok |
| 23:45.47 | Kindari | the bottom of the manabar has a darker shade of gray than i wanted, so i put a 1 pixel line that is a lighter shade of gray to replace the existing border |
| 23:45.48 | Kindari | so |
| 23:46.00 | Kindari | it doesn't go over the manabar |
| 23:46.00 | Kindari | but |
| 23:46.28 | Kindari | when you mouse over the manabar, the text that displays is bigger than the mana bar - i.e. it goes over that border line |
| 23:46.47 | Kindari | normally, the text sits on top the border, but with my thing there, it sits under it |
| 23:46.52 | bleetah | hah http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25104 |
| 23:47.00 | bleetah | (one for the Aussies and Kiwis) |
| 23:47.35 | Kindari | i'm trying to read the player frame xml but i'm not making sense of it cuz i cna't find any of hte texures that it refrences :( |
| 23:48.11 | Karrion | bleetah: what, no yellow text on that? bah |
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| 23:50.58 | bleetah | yeah, it'd be nice if it weren't some generic pile of junk dagger.. but I guess them the breaks |
| 23:51.16 | bleetah | s/pile of junk/random stats/ |
| 23:54.01 | TC_Working | you were rplly correct the first time |
| 23:54.14 | TC_Working | s/rplly/prolly/ |
| 23:54.26 | scotepi | b |
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| 23:56.16 | bleetah | true, I mean, if there were a generic term for US veterans, and junky items turned up with that name on them, I suspect some people might get a little.. agitated |
| 23:56.38 | WobWork | I think one of the best 'random stats' items was a shield with +shadow damage |
