| 00:05.34 | Xenok | attempt to call global 'bookmarksaving' (a nil value) ummmm its right there in my lua!! im calling it via: PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA["Alterac Mountains"] = bookmarksaving(); |
| 00:05.43 | Xenok | also in my lua |
| 00:06.07 | Xenok | checked spelling and everthing |
| 00:06.52 | amro | calling it doesn't mean its "there" |
| 00:07.02 | amro | you need to declare it first |
| 00:07.11 | Xenok | ummm doh >< |
| 00:07.31 | Xenok | meain.. have that PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA["Alterac Mountains"] = bookmarksaving(); AFTER the function bookmarksaving() ? |
| 00:08.07 | leethal | cleared this yeti cave 10 times now kek |
| 00:08.20 | Xenok | again. .orcish ftw |
| 00:08.30 | leethal | 101 101 |
| 00:08.40 | Xenok | ... |
| 00:08.55 | leethal | allies will see that as zug zug =P |
| 00:09.02 | Xenok | lol |
| 00:09.11 | Xenok | then why do orcs say zug zug to us? |
| 00:09.42 | leethal | kek they should've said "one o one, one o one" |
| 00:09.58 | Xenok | yeah |
| 00:10.10 | Xenok | but why say one o one to us? =P |
| 00:10.16 | Xenok | whats the point :P |
| 00:10.21 | leethal | huh? |
| 00:10.36 | Xenok | when we talk to orcs.. sometimes they say. zug zug.. why? lol |
| 00:10.44 | Xenok | like orc npcs |
| 00:10.54 | leethal | why not? |
| 00:11.16 | zenzelezz | because they did in the Warcraft RTSes when you selected them |
| 00:11.16 | Xenok | hmm |
| 00:11.42 | leethal | zug zug is an orcish grereting |
| 00:11.44 | Xenok | but allys see 101 as zug zug |
| 00:11.50 | Xenok | er.. 101 101 |
| 00:12.02 | leethal | yes? |
| 00:12.12 | Xenok | so zug zug means " one zero one" |
| 00:12.18 | zenzelezz | no |
| 00:12.22 | leethal | no, it means "hey, there" |
| 00:12.22 | zenzelezz | it's scrambled |
| 00:12.31 | zenzelezz | so you can't cross-faction communicate |
| 00:12.35 | Xenok | lol |
| 00:12.39 | zenzelezz | I know some guildies of mine are fond of telling hordes SS AA DAP or something |
| 00:12.46 | zenzelezz | think there's one more double letter |
| 00:12.48 | leethal | you can also say Y h B 918 N oh or something to go "N I G G A" |
| 00:12.49 | Xenok | whats that show up? |
| 00:13.33 | leethal | http://blizzardguides.com/chat_opposite_race.html |
| 00:14.04 | Xenok | ha |
| 00:15.12 | leethal | ffs... out of arrows, spent 2k arrows on that stupid quest item |
| 00:15.16 | leethal | and still no drop |
| 00:15.29 | zenzelezz | which quest/quest item? |
| 00:15.39 | leethal | Hecular's Rod |
| 00:17.07 | zenzelezz | oh, that one |
| 00:17.16 | zenzelezz | think it took me 10-20 yetis |
| 00:18.10 | leethal | ya, did that last time |
| 00:18.25 | leethal | cleared the cave 10-ish times now, still nothing |
| 00:18.34 | leethal | *skip* |
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| 00:28.01 | demon_0069 | whats this channel for anyways? |
| 00:28.11 | demon_0069 | just general wow chat? |
| 00:28.39 | leethal | no, wow interface chat |
| 00:28.55 | demon_0069 | OOHH, whats a good unitframe mod? |
| 00:28.56 | leethal | but also general wow chat =D |
| 00:29.00 | leethal | ag_unitframes |
| 00:29.09 | demon_0069 | not a fan of x-perl? |
| 00:29.14 | leethal | it's more kind of a developers channel, though |
| 00:29.15 | leethal | and no |
| 00:29.19 | leethal | ace and such for the win |
| 00:29.29 | leethal | x-perl lowered my fps |
| 00:29.40 | demon_0069 | true |
| 00:29.51 | leethal | making a super imba ui now. no action bars |
| 00:30.07 | demon_0069 | wow, that should be awsome |
| 00:30.23 | leethal | ya, and a separate cooldown adon. All I use the action bars for is for checking cooldowns |
| 00:30.35 | demon_0069 | heh, nice |
| 00:30.36 | leethal | got the idea from subbawt in here |
| 00:30.41 | leethal | a work in progress one from him: http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subbawtui2wv2.png |
| 00:30.48 | leethal | (or her or whatever) |
| 00:31.38 | [dRaCo] | looks weird... just keybindings, nothing else? |
| 00:31.49 | leethal | yep |
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| 00:32.00 | leethal | that's how I use wow anyways. I never press the action bars |
| 00:32.12 | leethal | except for stuff like hs, mount - which is what autobar does |
| 00:32.22 | leethal | you can see a bar with hs and mount there, that's the one |
| 00:33.00 | demon_0069 | hey? does AG have a rogeu ticker on it? |
| 00:33.00 | [dRaCo] | I click some things... like shamanistic rage |
| 00:33.18 | leethal | I got everything on the keyboard |
| 00:33.25 | leethal | demon_0069: not sure |
| 00:33.40 | leethal | demon_0069: there are separate nice addons for that though |
| 00:33.49 | [dRaCo] | demon_0069, afaik kEnergy can be used with aguf |
| 00:34.01 | [dRaCo] | saw a screenshot a while ago |
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| 00:34.54 | Corrodias | HERMETIC |
| 00:35.03 | leethal | Corrodias: food? |
| 00:35.33 | Corrodias | no, being of or related to a hermit |
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| 00:38.58 | leethal | Corrodias: you're not from the moon, are you? |
| 00:39.08 | Corrodias | nooo |
| 00:39.20 | leethal | aw |
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| 00:44.57 | subbawt | How do i change the background texture of a frame. I'm trying to remove that terrible looking default stone texture from my PetActionBarFrame, and I don't want to use an entire action bar mod to do just this task. |
| 00:45.06 | subbawt | there should have been a question mark somewhere in there |
| 00:46.01 | zenzelezz | I don't know, but it seems like that background goes away entirely if you enable the additional bottom-left actionbar... don't know if that's by code or by accident |
| 00:47.00 | subbawt | I don't have any visible action bars |
| 00:47.28 | zenzelezz | I meant it more in a "you could look at that code" way |
| 00:47.36 | zenzelezz | since I'm a nub and don't know a better answer |
| 00:48.14 | leethal | look at skinner |
| 00:48.19 | leethal | perhaps you can get some ideas there |
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| 01:08.17 | Xenok | attempt to index local 'field' (a nil value) ... huh? says that on the line that has if ( field:GetText() == nil ) then I have in the line above: local field = getglobal(name); |
| 01:08.39 | Xenok | worked before :\ |
| 01:09.48 | zenzelezz | are you sure the name is right then? |
| 01:10.05 | Xenok | I didn't change anything after it worked before |
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| 01:21.34 | wereHamster | Xenok, code doesn't 'magically |
| 01:21.41 | wereHamster | ' stop working |
| 01:21.45 | Xenok | this is what it looks like... it says the highlighted line 'field' is nil value |
| 01:21.48 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7929 |
| 01:21.58 | wereHamster | check type(field) == "table" |
| 01:22.23 | Xenok | hmm? |
| 01:22.34 | wereHamster | and (I'm not sure about that one) type(field[1]) == "lightuserdata" |
| 01:22.47 | wereHamster | that's one way to identify frames |
| 01:22.51 | Xenok | what do I do with the first one? :P |
| 01:23.15 | wereHamster | if ( type(field) == "table" and field:GetText() == nil ) |
| 01:23.37 | Xenok | ah and change "table" with the actual table |
| 01:23.50 | wereHamster | but you probable should fix the bug that causes getglobal(name) to fail |
| 01:24.06 | Xenok | I can't find it though :/ |
| 01:24.16 | wereHamster | type is a lua function that returns the type of a variable |
| 01:24.21 | eternally777 | Just make sure that the variable exists |
| 01:24.56 | Shikatanai | Is there any mod available to display an enemy's class above their head like a raid target icon |
| 01:25.04 | eternally777 | Change line 6 to 'if field and not field:GetText() then' |
| 01:25.13 | Shikatanai | and make the icon clicable to target the player |
| 01:25.32 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 01:26.20 | kergoth | anyone seen missing textures like in http://covenant.kergoth.com/images/wow-missingtex.png after a fresh install? |
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| 01:26.23 | kergoth | bit odd |
| 01:26.49 | Nom_ | damn dodgy wiring :( |
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| 01:29.11 | Xenok | even after copying and pasting it from where I got it originaly gives me the same error |
| 01:29.21 | Xenok | how odd |
| 01:29.57 | Xenok | ohh wait hold on.. |
| 01:30.04 | Xenok | gunna try something |
| 01:31.59 | Xenok | nope.. why would it say that? I didn't do anything :/ |
| 01:32.10 | Xenok | I copied and pasted from where Igot it too |
| 01:33.54 | Xenok | oh I found error... nvm |
| 01:33.57 | Xenok | >.> |
| 01:34.42 | Nom- | lol that sig maker thing i made |
| 01:34.46 | Nom- | someone had the same idea i found |
| 01:34.54 | Xenok | which idea? |
| 01:35.06 | Nom- | forum signatures based off Armory data |
| 01:35.24 | Xenok | lol |
| 01:35.33 | Nom- | Theirs is prettier |
| 01:35.37 | Nom- | Trying to find the link |
| 01:35.40 | Xenok | where did you find it? |
| 01:35.40 | Xenok | oh |
| 01:35.42 | Shikatanai | where is it |
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| 01:35.57 | Nom- | http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/ |
| 01:36.04 | Nom- | http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pve/Stormscale/Innominata/sig4.jpg |
| 01:36.13 | Nom- | Really perdy |
| 01:36.19 | Xenok | lol yeah.. saw one of those the other day |
| 01:36.26 | Xenok | when you introduced the idea somone liked theirs |
| 01:36.33 | Nom- | Yeah, the data is pulled from Armory |
| 01:36.35 | Nom- | It's quite nice |
| 01:36.47 | Xenok | but you have icons and profesions |
| 01:37.01 | Xenok | just need to tweak a lil |
| 01:37.37 | Xenok | plus they have diff backgrounds |
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| 01:38.22 | Xenok | hehe http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pve/Thrall/Xeekkcnook/sig1.jpg <-- me mage http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pvp/Thrall/Xeekkcnook/sig1.jpg <-- me mage pvp |
| 01:38.37 | Nom- | Theirs doesn't do Euro realms either |
| 01:38.51 | Xenok | hehe you just need to do graphics |
| 01:38.53 | leethal | wohoo, finally. someone made working timers for Maiden |
| 01:39.18 | Karrion | leethal: links plz |
| 01:39.24 | leethal | newest DBM |
| 01:39.24 | Xenok | wtf? why doesn't my shammy pic have nice gear? :P http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pve/Thrall/Hatado/sig1.jpg |
| 01:39.38 | Xenok | oh there we go http://jebus.geek.nz/WoW/armory/pvp/Thrall/Hatado/sig1.jpg |
| 01:39.51 | Xenok | look at that one |
| 01:40.18 | Xenok | Hks like a mad man |
| 01:43.53 | Shadowed | Anyone know how Blizzard calculates relevance on the armory? |
| 01:44.16 | Karrion | Shadowed: /roll |
| 01:44.28 | TC_Working | heh |
| 01:44.36 | TC_Working | it does seem to be that way |
| 01:44.49 | Shadowed | As far as I can tell, it seems to match the name and level |
| 01:44.52 | Nom- | From what I can see, it seems to be related to character level |
| 01:44.56 | Shadowed | haha |
| 01:45.12 | Arrowmaster | i would guess that activity also effected it |
| 01:45.14 | eternally777 | So does anyone know if it's possible to change a frame's state by scrolling a mouse wheel over it? |
| 01:45.15 | Nom- | ie. A level 70 with that name will return 100%, but a level 11 with the same name would be like 5% or something like that |
| 01:45.35 | Shadowed | Yeah, thats what i'm seeing |
| 01:48.36 | TC_Working | someone tell me it's ok to spend $650 on dual 22" monitors |
| 01:48.46 | Nom- | TC_Working: Widescreen? |
| 01:48.48 | TC_Working | yes |
| 01:48.52 | Xenok | then yes |
| 01:48.54 | Nom- | Yes, that's quite acceptable. |
| 01:48.57 | Xenok | its ok |
| 01:49.17 | TC_Working | with 4yr warrantys |
| 01:49.25 | Xenok | also yes |
| 01:49.29 | TC_Working | ok, food |
| 01:49.36 | Xenok | afaik |
| 01:49.37 | TC_Working | s/food/good/ |
| 01:49.49 | Xenok | did you already do it? |
| 01:49.53 | TC_Working | no |
| 01:49.55 | Xenok | aight |
| 01:49.57 | Nom- | What rez do they do ? |
| 01:49.58 | Xenok | just wondering |
| 01:49.59 | Shadowed | Thats a pretty good deal |
| 01:50.02 | Nom- | 1680x1050 ? |
| 01:50.12 | Xenok | I wish I had a widescreen |
| 01:50.16 | Xenok | moniter |
| 01:50.25 | Nom- | Xenok: Same :( |
| 01:50.31 | Xenok | Or better yet |
| 01:51.10 | TC_Working | 1680 x 1050 at 60 Hz |
| 01:51.13 | Xenok | 3 way moniter setup.. where you turn your head slightly to the left to see a little more of the left terrain and same with the right.. and the center is yoru toon |
| 01:51.14 | Nom- | awww |
| 01:51.21 | Nom- | It'd be nice if you could get one which deos the next rez up |
| 01:51.34 | Nom- | 1680x1050 on a 22" is a pretty low res :( |
| 01:52.17 | Cide | I'm pretty sure it's standard |
| 01:52.17 | eternally777 | yeah |
| 01:52.17 | Cide | you have to go to 23" or 24" to get whatever's the next one |
| 01:52.17 | eternally777 | What Cide said. |
| 01:52.17 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/compare/compare.rhtml - go wild, folks :D |
| 01:52.17 | Nom- | No you can get higher res |
| 01:52.27 | TC_Working | tech specs: http://wowi.pastey.net/7930 |
| 01:52.27 | Nom- | I've found 19" WS which will do 1680x1050, and the standard is lower than that |
| 01:52.29 | Cide | maybe you *can*, but it's not the standard |
| 01:52.45 | eternally777 | ^ |
| 01:52.58 | Xenok | lol antiarc... it takes forever to load |
| 01:53.03 | Antiarc | Yes, it does |
| 01:53.10 | Antiarc | It's pulling massive amounts of data from the Armory |
| 01:53.16 | JoshBorke | you should cache it :-P |
| 01:53.17 | Xenok | then why not just use teh armory? |
| 01:53.38 | Antiarc | I am caching it - it's generating static HTML files |
| 01:53.42 | Antiarc | Because the armory doesn't give you table overviews of your entire guild :) |
| 01:53.46 | leethal | woot, the armory has an API? |
| 01:53.51 | Xenok | what the? my mage isn't listed in my guilds list |
| 01:53.56 | Antiarc | It produces XML data if you give it the right user agent |
| 01:54.00 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: that's awesome |
| 01:54.04 | Antiarc | Xenok: That means your mage needs a character refresh |
| 01:54.04 | leethal | ah, REST-ish? |
| 01:54.10 | Antiarc | It couldn't pull his data |
| 01:54.12 | Antiarc | Eh, kinda |
| 01:54.12 | Xenok | how do I do that antiarc? |
| 01:54.19 | Antiarc | Wait, unfortunately |
| 01:54.20 | zenzelezz | Xenok: oh yeah, we kicked you, sorry |
| 01:54.28 | Antiarc | It's a Blizz problem |
| 01:54.28 | Nom- | If I was getting a 22" LCD, i'd want it to be 1920x1440 |
| 01:54.28 | Xenok | lol zen |
| 01:54.49 | Nom- | or 1920x1200 ... whatever the WS version is |
| 01:54.49 | Xenok | hah it does buffs too awsome |
| 01:55.04 | Nom- | My laptop actually had an option to go that high when I bought it, but I went for the middle of the range one |
| 01:55.13 | Nom- | It's a 17" LCD with 1980x1050 |
| 01:55.28 | Nom- | 1680x1050 even |
| 01:55.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Here's hoping Blizz decide that the Armory s a positive step and spend money on servers for it, rather than attempt to reduce it's abilities |
| 01:55.42 | Antiarc | I love love love love the XML data output |
| 01:55.54 | TC_Working | are you talking max or optimal sizes Nom-? |
| 01:55.55 | Xenok | kirk: yeah |
| 01:55.58 | Antiarc | I wrote a script that gets the classes in the teams in the top 10 arena teams across all battlegroups |
| 01:56.04 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/results.html |
| 01:56.06 | Nom- | That's the native resolution on that screen lol |
| 01:56.20 | Nom- | I want the native to be really high...I <3 High Resolution screens |
| 01:56.24 | leethal | Antiarc: rhtml? |
| 01:56.33 | Antiarc | Ruby |
| 01:56.38 | Antiarc | Running it through the eruby cgi |
| 01:56.42 | leethal | yes indeed, but.. ah |
| 01:56.49 | Shadowed | Antiarc: Is it using this weeks data yet? |
| 01:56.50 | Antiarc | I didn't want to write a full rails app for this :P |
| 01:57.00 | Antiarc | Shadowed: That's directly from the armory |
| 01:57.03 | Antiarc | So whatever is live there. |
| 01:57.17 | Shadowed | ahhh |
| 01:57.21 | leethal | Antiarc: you don't want to write a rails app..? You're strange |
| 01:57.22 | Shadowed | I'm sad |
| 01:57.36 | Nom- | I've tried rails |
| 01:57.38 | Shadowed | Arms/Protection being top for 5vs5 makes me disappointed in people |
| 01:57.38 | Nom- | It's whacked |
| 01:57.42 | Antiarc | leethal: I've written a number of rails apps, but I didn't want a whole rails setup for just this particular script :P |
| 01:57.48 | Nom- | Use Perl + Catalyst instead :) |
| 01:57.53 | leethal | rails appname, voila =P |
| 01:58.04 | Antiarc | Right, but I have to set up my whole mongrel pipeline and all that too |
| 01:58.11 | leethal | harbl |
| 01:58.13 | Antiarc | Which is a pain for something as small as this. |
| 01:58.34 | Cide | I'm a big fan of django (python based) |
| 01:59.01 | JoshBorke | heh, heh, mongrel, heh |
| 01:59.03 | leethal | ruby > python |
| 01:59.08 | Cide | opinion |
| 01:59.18 | Antiarc | I love both ruby and python. |
| 01:59.20 | Cide | far from everyone agrees :) |
| 01:59.37 | Shikatanai | Is there any mod available to display an enemy's class above their head like a raid target icon |
| 01:59.39 | Shikatanai | and make the icon clicable to target the player |
| 01:59.46 | Xenok | lol nom- I googed catalyst and took me forever to find http://www.catalystframework.org/ |
| 01:59.47 | JoshBorke | Shikatanai: no |
| 01:59.49 | Antiarc | Ruby and Python tend to both be plagued by evangelists :) |
| 01:59.53 | Shikatanai | no possible way to make one like that? |
| 02:00.11 | JoshBorke | Shikatanai: not to target them, i don't think so. i don't think you can even get the class |
| 02:00.15 | leethal | Antiarc: and with good reason |
| 02:00.24 | Shikatanai | josh: what if you build a database of players |
| 02:00.28 | leethal | Antiarc: just the way PHP isn't (and those that are is noobs anyway) |
| 02:00.30 | Xenok | s/googed/googled/ |
| 02:00.33 | Antiarc | Heheh |
| 02:00.35 | Antiarc | PHP has its uses! |
| 02:00.47 | leethal | arf |
| 02:01.00 | Nom- | I love Catalyst... |
| 02:01.08 | Nom- | Run it in FastCGI mode and it's so damn quick |
| 02:01.16 | Nom- | The forum signature thingy I made is built on Catalyst |
| 02:01.27 | Xenok | right |
| 02:01.27 | JoshBorke | Shikatanai: you might could make it show their class. |
| 02:01.46 | Xenok | but what does it do exactly? I don't see a thing on the site that explains what it is for .. compelety |
| 02:02.00 | Nom- | It's like rails |
| 02:02.04 | leethal | Nom-: FastCGI is evil |
| 02:02.04 | Nom- | It's an application framework |
| 02:02.09 | Xenok | hmm |
| 02:02.13 | Nom- | leethal: FastCGI is awesome :) |
| 02:02.26 | leethal | Nom-: not if you dislike hackers |
| 02:02.31 | Nom- | pfft |
| 02:02.33 | leethal | and randomly crashing processes |
| 02:02.44 | Nom- | That's not FastCGI |
| 02:02.49 | Nom- | Or it's a poorly build atpp |
| 02:02.55 | Nom- | s/atpp/app/ |
| 02:02.56 | leethal | you loose |
| 02:03.27 | JoshBorke | Shikatanai: talk to Shadowed |
| 02:03.43 | Shadowed | wha |
| 02:03.48 | Shadowed | i didn't do it |
| 02:03.53 | Shadowed | you can't pin it on me! |
| 02:04.15 | Xenok | I wikipediad mvc.. to find out more on catalyst. gave me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._Capcom:_Clash_of_Super_Heroes |
| 02:04.28 | Xenok | Marvel vs Capcom MVC |
| 02:04.31 | JoshBorke | Shadowed: he wants to put the class names on top of players |
| 02:04.33 | Shadowed | Shikatanai: Yes and no, we can change stuff like bar colors or show an icon next to the nameplates, but theres two restrictions. |
| 02:04.59 | Shikatanai | i want to be able to target certain classes in AV |
| 02:05.01 | Shadowed | They either have to be grouped, in the same battleground, or we're gathering and saving data when you mouse over/target them. And you can't click on the icon to target them |
| 02:05.01 | Shikatanai | on sight |
| 02:05.18 | Xenok | nom- MVC from catalyst = Model-view-controller? |
| 02:05.18 | JoshBorke | you could click on their bar though |
| 02:05.19 | Shikatanai | and i'd build a database of people |
| 02:05.22 | Shadowed | I'm working on an addon that will let you recolor the health bars depending on the enemies class, it'll probably be done soon. |
| 02:05.26 | Nom- | Xenok: Yep |
| 02:05.28 | Xenok | k |
| 02:05.43 | Nom- | Basically your models are like your data sources |
| 02:05.47 | Nom- | views are the output rendering |
| 02:05.52 | Xenok | hmm |
| 02:05.58 | Nom- | and controllers sit in the middle controlling the flow of your application |
| 02:06.12 | Xenok | ahh |
| 02:06.18 | Nom- | It actually makes sense, when you realise you've been doing it with your application for years without knowing :) |
| 02:06.37 | Xenok | lol like what did you do without knowing? |
| 02:07.08 | Shadowed | You can always get peoples class in battlegrounds/arenas too JoshBorke |
| 02:07.20 | Nom- | well if you use something like Class::DBI, DBIx::Class, and the eqivilent database interfaces in other languages, then you're already abstracting information into models |
| 02:07.38 | JoshBorke | Shadowed: only in battlegrounds though |
| 02:07.50 | Xenok | hm |
| 02:07.50 | Nom- | and if you use something like Template-Toolkit (Perl), Smarty (PHP) and others for outputting information, then you're already using views |
| 02:08.02 | Xenok | aww g2g for a few :( |
| 02:08.02 | Shadowed | yeah, lot of people who do world pvp are probably going to be in a battleground at one point or another. |
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| 02:08.08 | Nom- | If you're one of those people who embeds HTML inside the code, then it won't make much sense to start with |
| 02:09.07 | Nom- | Out of interest...does an event get triggered when the enemy targets you? |
| 02:09.22 | Nom- | If so, is it possible to flash or someway indicate the enemy that targeted you? :) |
| 02:09.34 | Shadowed | Nope |
| 02:10.01 | Shadowed | You could in a way do that however, you'd just have to scan your party/raid and see if anyone they're targetting is targetting you. |
| 02:10.20 | Nom- | bleh slowness |
| 02:10.38 | Shadowed | Wouldn't be that slow, just wouldn't be very useful if they aren't targetting the person whos targetting you. |
| 02:10.42 | Nom- | It was more a case of me running along and i'd like to be able to tell that mobs or alliance are targeting me |
| 02:11.00 | Nom- | Doesn't rly matter tho |
| 02:13.44 | rjaym | Antiarc>: interesting utility tnx for the trouble |
| 02:14.55 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Innominata <-- check out the mace I got last night ^_^ |
| 02:15.00 | Nom- | Freakin awesome weapon :D |
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| 02:18.35 | Nom- | 30sta+34int+68heal+25crit or 27sta+18int+88heal+7mp5+17crit ? |
| 02:18.57 | Nom- | Can't decide between them... :( |
| 02:19.31 | Shadowed | PVP or PVE |
| 02:19.47 | Nom- | PVE healing |
| 02:20.12 | Nom- | It's a hard call lol |
| 02:20.19 | Shadowed | second one seems better if you want mp5/healing |
| 02:20.54 | Cide | on no |
| 02:20.58 | Cide | you have to do a "versus diagram" |
| 02:21.26 | Nom- | bleh...they're pretty close i guess |
| 02:21.36 | Nom- | It's basically int vs mp5,heal |
| 02:21.37 | JoshBorke | i'd go with teh mp5/healing one |
| 02:21.58 | Cide | 3 sta, 16 int, 8 crit vs 20 heal, 70 mp5 |
| 02:21.59 | JoshBorke | since it's not spell crit |
| 02:22.03 | Nom- | 16int probably doesn't justify the loss of 7mp |
| 02:22.06 | Nom- | mp5 |
| 02:22.15 | Nom- | it is spell crit JoshBorke |
| 02:22.17 | Cide | int is pretty useless |
| 02:22.31 | JoshBorke | perhaps i'm looking at the wrong weapon then |
| 02:22.38 | Nom- | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=30299 |
| 02:22.40 | JoshBorke | it says critical strike, not spell crit strike |
| 02:22.43 | Nom- | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=27748 |
| 02:22.53 | Nom- | OH.. i'm talking about pants lol |
| 02:22.55 | JoshBorke | bah, i was looking at the weapon and not the pants =/ |
| 02:22.56 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:22.57 | Nom- | The mace is just cool either way |
| 02:23.55 | JoshBorke | there's a rough formula to compare mana/5 vs spell crit |
| 02:24.15 | Cide | depends on your casting style |
| 02:24.30 | Nom- | Well, pally = FoL-spam |
| 02:24.42 | Cide | for a pally it's more predictable |
| 02:25.05 | Shadowed | when the items are that close you always have the other option |
| 02:25.10 | Shadowed | wear what looks best |
| 02:25.31 | Nom- | Well one is a quest reward, and the other is a dungeon |
| 02:25.45 | Nom- | So I guess i'll just do the damn quest and use them ... don't have to make the decision now I guess |
| 02:30.51 | Nom- | bleh, wtb more primal nether :( |
| 02:33.52 | rjaym | are there any limitations on the way objects are implemented in WoW lua, or can you basically do it like it says on wikipedia |
| 02:35.52 | Nom- | Anyone recommend a good spot to farm all the primals ? |
| 02:36.00 | Nom- | Need 8 x Primal Might |
| 02:38.49 | Shadowed | Wizard Row in Netherstorm for mana, elemental plato for fire, water, earth, air, no idea for life. |
| 02:39.57 | JoshBorke | life = herbalism |
| 02:40.33 | JoshBorke | friggin hate wizzard row |
| 02:40.46 | JoshBorke | bog lords in zangarmarsh drop motes of life |
| 02:41.22 | leethal | I hate mote of mana |
| 02:44.09 | Nom- | hmm...can you reset and keep running Heroic instnaces? I would have presumed you can? |
| 02:44.14 | Shadowed | Nope |
| 02:44.22 | Nom- | wow ouchies |
| 02:44.37 | Shadowed | they have raid ids, once you kill a boss inside them you're locked into that instance for the next 24 hours |
| 02:44.52 | Shadowed | well, until they next reset which is every day |
| 02:44.56 | Shadowed | JoshBorke: What class are you? |
| 02:44.57 | Nom- | ouch |
| 02:45.07 | Nom- | I guess that makes it easier to clear...do 1 boss, take a break etc |
| 02:45.16 | Nom- | But that's nasty once you get the instance(s) on farm |
| 02:45.31 | JoshBorke | Shadowed: priest |
| 02:45.35 | Shadowed | And stop you from getting tons of badges and such quickly |
| 02:45.43 | Shadowed | Ahhh that would do it, i'm a Warrior so they're easy |
| 02:45.56 | JoshBorke | yea. warrior friend said they are nice and easy |
| 02:46.03 | Nom- | I get the feeling it's going to be hard to get the 3 Primal Nether I need lol |
| 02:46.09 | JoshBorke | as a priest i hate that place :-P so i go farm the air elementals in the northwest |
| 02:46.14 | JoshBorke | NOm-: mech |
| 02:46.29 | JoshBorke | not that i've tried mech on heroi |
| 02:46.29 | Nom- | JoshBorke: What's the droprate ? |
| 02:46.39 | Shadowed | You always get one off the last boss on Heroic I believe? |
| 02:46.49 | Nom- | Yeah, supposifly |
| 02:46.52 | Nom- | *supposedly |
| 02:46.56 | JoshBorke | i haven't done any heroics :-D |
| 02:47.03 | Nom- | It's 100% droprate from all Heroic final bosses |
| 02:47.04 | JoshBorke | i'm still too n00b |
| 02:47.13 | Nom- | and something like 5% droprate from all heroic bosses overall |
| 02:47.27 | JoshBorke | but the gate keepers count as bosses in mech |
| 02:47.33 | JoshBorke | so that's 5 bosses in a very small area |
| 02:48.07 | Nom- | blah |
| 02:48.35 | Nom- | It's actually worth gearing for the Heroic 5-mans...forget Karazhan lol |
| 02:49.02 | JoshBorke | still trying to gear our druid healer in regular 5 mans |
| 02:49.04 | Nom- | Hopefully my guild will start getting Heroics on farm so we can get some Nethers...need that awesome healnig mace |
| 02:49.27 | JoshBorke | i've got about 580 +damage and +1k +heal in 2 sets of gear, so i'm pretty set |
| 02:49.40 | JoshBorke | psh, i want the mace out of kara |
| 02:49.43 | Nom- | lol my pally had +1000 healing at level 66 |
| 02:49.45 | Nom- | and 6k mana |
| 02:50.03 | Nom- | now i'm getting close to +1100 healing and 7.5k mana |
| 02:50.05 | JoshBorke | +1k healing and 9k mana :-P with something like 300 spirit |
| 02:50.24 | Nom- | spirit is absolutely useless to a pally unfortunately |
| 02:50.28 | JoshBorke | yea it is |
| 02:50.30 | subbawt | I have +1700 healing |
| 02:50.51 | JoshBorke | subbawt: what type of gear? i really want to know what gear i should be trying to get |
| 02:50.55 | Nom- | subbawt: Onw which class? |
| 02:50.58 | subbawt | Im a priest |
| 02:50.59 | JoshBorke | without having to step into kara |
| 02:51.06 | Nom- | ah, damn clothies |
| 02:51.18 | subbawt | i use the full primal mooncloth set, tier 4 gloves/helm, sha'tar exalted mace, a few heroic drops |
| 02:51.19 | JoshBorke | i can boost my +healing another 100 just by running TK instances more |
| 02:51.25 | Nom- | +1000 healing on a pally was enough to solo heal Onyxia iirc |
| 02:51.29 | JoshBorke | ah, the full primal mooncloth =/ |
| 02:51.34 | Nom- | So i'm happy with that for the moment |
| 02:52.04 | JoshBorke | +1066 healing, 9224 mana, 6041 health unbuffed |
| 02:52.10 | Esamynn | Nom-: Onyxia hits like a girl |
| 02:52.12 | subbawt | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Subbawt |
| 02:52.14 | subbawt | There's my gear |
| 02:52.26 | JoshBorke | ony hits like a girl with sockem rockem gloves on |
| 02:52.30 | Nom- | yah i know |
| 02:52.32 | Nom- | but still |
| 02:52.39 | subbawt | We tried to 3 man ony the other day |
| 02:52.47 | Esamynn | lol |
| 02:52.54 | Esamynn | tank, healing, dps |
| 02:52.58 | subbawt | We could have done it if we had a DPS class that could drop aggro. |
| 02:53.00 | Esamynn | yep, that's 3 ppl ;) |
| 02:53.05 | subbawt | But instead we had an enhancement shaman, lol |
| 02:53.13 | JoshBorke | 574 +dam, 5801 health, 9356 mana, 20.24% crit in holy in my damage gear |
| 02:53.13 | Esamynn | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 02:53.19 | subbawt | the tank ran out of threat at 80% |
| 02:53.50 | subbawt | i think paladin + warrior + hunter is the best possible composition to 3 man ony |
| 02:54.01 | Nom- | lol you need a hunter as your dps |
| 02:54.04 | Nom- | pally + warrior + hunter |
| 02:54.17 | Nom- | all other ranged dps use too much mana and can't keep up the dps when they're low on mana |
| 02:54.33 | subbawt | I didn't understand the mechanic on onyxia's deaggro though |
| 02:54.37 | Nom- | Ony isn't, and has never been about high dps..it's sustained dps |
| 02:54.47 | subbawt | i didn't realize it was a percentage |
| 02:55.16 | Nom- | The hunter should never stop dps on Ony |
| 02:55.37 | Nom- | Actually, now that they've buffed Thunderclap, Warrior vs Whelps is probably a cake walk |
| 02:55.48 | Esamynn | Nom-: why not a bear tank? |
| 02:56.03 | Nom- | The bear would need a lot of FR gear then Esamynn |
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| 02:56.20 | JoshBorke | subbawt: what did you have before you stepped into kara? :-D |
| 02:56.20 | Esamynn | true |
| 02:56.32 | Esamynn | but not that much more than a warrior |
| 02:56.35 | subbawt | before karazhan? hmm |
| 02:56.48 | subbawt | 3 piece tier 2, 4 piece tier 3 ;\ |
| 02:57.07 | subbawt | and a few random things i had picked up while leveling |
| 02:57.41 | subbawt | what class are you Josh? |
| 02:57.59 | JoshBorke | subbawt: priest. herb/skinner. no guild |
| 02:58.41 | subbawt | The priest "tier 3.5" set is pretty good |
| 02:59.09 | Nom- | subbawt: Where did you get all the epix ? |
| 02:59.34 | Nom- | Oh, they're pre-BC epix ? |
| 02:59.41 | subbawt | Only two of them |
| 02:59.50 | subbawt | my bracers and my necklace |
| 02:59.56 | JoshBorke | subbawt: i've already got better legs, better hands, better helm |
| 03:00.09 | subbawt | what legs do you have? the tier 3.5 legs are insane |
| 03:00.18 | JoshBorke | pants of the naaru, prismatic mittens of mending, watcher's cowl |
| 03:00.24 | JoshBorke | well, maybe not better, but only marginal upgrade |
| 03:01.00 | subbawt | get the boots from shattered halls (jeweled boots of santification), the tier 3.5 robes from murmur |
| 03:01.16 | subbawt | *sanctification |
| 03:01.16 | Nom- | hmmmmm |
| 03:01.21 | JoshBorke | yea, those were the 2 things i was looking at |
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| 03:01.26 | Nom- | Heroic murmur ? |
| 03:01.42 | subbawt | No just normal |
| 03:01.54 | subbawt | im not talking about my robes, mine are crafted |
| 03:02.11 | Nom- | oryt |
| 03:02.38 | JoshBorke | yea. once i get my lock up to 70 i'll probably switch my priest to tailoring |
| 03:02.47 | subbawt | Tailoring is SO expensive |
| 03:02.47 | JoshBorke | the primal moncloth set is just so sexy |
| 03:02.50 | subbawt | especially 360-375 |
| 03:03.58 | Esamynn | subbawt: how is that different from any other production tradeskill once you get above 340 or so? |
| 03:04.20 | leethal | it's 360 and up that sucks |
| 03:04.23 | subbawt | I don't know, I haven't done any others. |
| 03:04.38 | leethal | all those things you can make that is green (sharpening stones for BS for instance) go grey |
| 03:04.38 | eternally777 | Has anyone ever opened a merchant frame and not been able to see the item names? |
| 03:05.02 | eternally777 | It's happening to me, and calling GetMerchantItemInfo(i) returns 'nil' for the item name |
| 03:05.05 | subbawt | Im looking forward to getting rid of this primal mooncloth set though. |
| 03:05.07 | JoshBorke | man, i wish i could refresh my gear |
| 03:05.17 | subbawt | Absolutely no stamina on any of the pieces :\ |
| 03:05.28 | JoshBorke | yea, that hurts a little bit |
| 03:05.58 | Nom- | lol you must get owned on some fights then |
| 03:06.05 | subbawt | sometimes :( |
| 03:06.14 | subbawt | but i usually do alright |
| 03:06.20 | Nom- | Especially with that much +healing...aggro pull so easy |
| 03:06.37 | Nom- | bet you still run oom before a pally tho lol |
| 03:06.48 | Nom- | how much does your flash of light cost and heal ? |
| 03:07.00 | Nom- | err whatever the priest one is called |
| 03:07.02 | Nom- | Flash Heal |
| 03:07.13 | subbawt | max rank costs 470 mana and heals for 2200-2300 |
| 03:07.37 | JoshBorke | it's a generally accepted fact that paladins heal longer |
| 03:07.39 | Esamynn | that's.............sick |
| 03:07.41 | Nom- | with my +1000 healing gear, 180 mana for 1100-1200 :) |
| 03:07.55 | Esamynn | ~poke Nom- |
| 03:07.56 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Nom-, pokes Nom- repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 03:07.57 | Nom- | FoL-spam ftw |
| 03:08.00 | JoshBorke | wow, max rank flash heal only takes 470? |
| 03:08.04 | Esamynn | Nom-: that's even sicker |
| 03:08.06 | JoshBorke | huh, i should use it more often |
| 03:08.21 | JoshBorke | paladins have a ridiculously high heal/mana ratio |
| 03:08.35 | JoshBorke | and they can hit hard with their heals too |
| 03:08.36 | subbawt | I also get 20% of my spirit regen while casting though :P |
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| 03:08.52 | JoshBorke | priests hit harder tohugh ;-) |
| 03:08.59 | JoshBorke | what's your largest crit subbawt? |
| 03:09.02 | Esamynn | subbawt: pfft, 20%? I used to get 30%! :P |
| 03:09.06 | Nom- | hmmmmm |
| 03:09.17 | Nom- | since when did Flash Heal require Spirit of Redemption ? |
| 03:09.44 | subbawt | i just got a greater heal crit for ~7300 |
| 03:09.55 | Nom- | that all? |
| 03:09.56 | subbawt | I don't use any activated +healing trinkets or anything |
| 03:10.01 | JoshBorke | yea, that's about my highest crit too. and i didn't have as much +heal |
| 03:10.13 | Nom- | My Holy Light crits for 6K |
| 03:10.17 | Nom- | And I can produce one on demand |
| 03:10.22 | Nom- | and it's 2.5 second casting time |
| 03:10.29 | JoshBorke | so's greater heal |
| 03:10.50 | JoshBorke | do you know how over powered priests would be in PvE with the paladin talent? |
| 03:11.27 | subbawt | I don't know if our paladins are just inexperienced since i play horde |
| 03:11.46 | subbawt | but no one really comes close to my effective healing |
| 03:11.55 | subbawt | except other priests |
| 03:12.11 | Nom- | hmm is thottbot broken, or does Flash Heal really require Spirit of Redemption ? |
| 03:12.20 | JoshBorke | thottbot is broken |
| 03:12.20 | subbawt | link |
| 03:12.28 | Nom- | http://www.thottbot.com/?c=Priest |
| 03:12.49 | Nom- | I didn't think that was the case, because my level 31 priest has Flash Heal and he's shadow |
| 03:13.28 | Shadowed | It isn't |
| 03:13.51 | nymbia | thott's got a ton of weird stuff like that |
| 03:14.04 | JoshBorke | where does it show it requires spirit of redemption? |
| 03:14.08 | nymbia | data that makes no sense whatsoever |
| 03:14.09 | subbawt | I don't see where you're seeing this still |
| 03:14.21 | Nom- | Greater Heal is 3 sec cast time too :P |
| 03:14.22 | Nom- | Not 2.5 |
| 03:14.31 | JoshBorke | NOm-: talented to 2.5 =P |
| 03:14.40 | Nom- | Yeah, well pally can talent it to 2.0 |
| 03:14.41 | Nom- | :P |
| 03:14.45 | Nom- | I was talking untalented |
| 03:15.00 | abug | are the health bars that replace names secure frames? |
| 03:15.21 | JoshBorke | abug: why? what are you trying to do? |
| 03:15.28 | abug | fix the pet bug |
| 03:15.55 | Nom- | wtf |
| 03:16.03 | Nom- | wowhead has Mass Resurrection under the pally tree too |
| 03:16.05 | Shadowed | Isn't it a bug in the API? Meaning you can't fix it regardless |
| 03:16.05 | Nom- | So wierd |
| 03:16.19 | JoshBorke | NOm-: is'n the paladin talent only after you cast a flash of light? |
| 03:16.38 | Thunder_Child | untalented it's 2.5....for some damn reason |
| 03:16.57 | abug | it's a bug in the frames, they were designed for percents but someone changed UnitHealth to return actual values now |
| 03:17.04 | subbawt | I will have 2.0 second greater heals when i get 4 piece tier 4 :) |
| 03:17.13 | Nom- | JoshBorke: Yeah, 3 point talent |
| 03:17.25 | Nom- | First one is 2.5 then a buff causes it to be 2.0 from then on |
| 03:18.00 | abug | it was a stealth change |
| 03:18.06 | Shadowed | Still! |
| 03:18.19 | Nom- | omh |
| 03:18.19 | abug | blizzards UI is bugged now too |
| 03:18.21 | Nom- | omg |
| 03:18.31 | Nom- | Pally does have Mass Resurrection according to a post on wowhead 3 weeks ago |
| 03:18.38 | Nom- | Heroic Shattered Halls |
| 03:18.46 | Shadowed | ? |
| 03:18.52 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32841 |
| 03:19.03 | Shadowed | Theres no Paladin bosses in SH... |
| 03:19.35 | Nom- | This spell DOES exist. |
| 03:19.36 | Nom- | 1st: Do Shattered Halls Heroic. |
| 03:19.36 | Nom- | 2nd: At the end of the instance there's a guy that you can rescue. |
| 03:19.36 | Nom- | 3rd: He will give you a quest to use a machine in Karazhan. |
| 03:19.36 | Nom- | 4th: The spell is yours. |
| 03:19.48 | Nom- | That's what the guy posted 3 weeks ago |
| 03:20.08 | Shadowed | It did exist in beta, it sounds more like it was removed in live. |
| 03:20.50 | Nom- | TBC has been out for more than 3 weeks though |
| 03:20.53 | subbawt | I've done heroic shattered halls, but I haven't completed the trial. |
| 03:21.03 | subbawt | There was no "paladin boss" from what I saw. |
| 03:21.04 | Shadowed | People have already done heroic SH =p |
| 03:21.10 | Nom- | Although I guess it could be a case that he was posting his experience from Beta |
| 03:21.11 | subbawt | Kargath executed a bunch of guys before we made it to him, though :P |
| 03:22.54 | subbawt | I suppose it's possible |
| 03:23.36 | nymbia | i'd assume it's the second guy |
| 03:23.58 | nymbia | since the first is for the trial of the naruu thing |
| 03:24.23 | subbawt | hmm? |
| 03:24.39 | subbawt | Oh well by the time we made it to kargath they were all dead :P |
| 03:25.00 | nymbia | the first prisoner is for the tempest keep attunement quest |
| 03:25.51 | JoshBorke | i can't imagine shattered halls heroic :-/ |
| 03:25.55 | JoshBorke | not with my group anyway |
| 03:25.59 | nymbia | its fun ;) |
| 03:26.06 | Nom- | I can't imagine Arcatraz heroic |
| 03:26.11 | Nom- | We did that last night...and DAMN |
| 03:26.21 | Nom- | That mind flay from the last boss is so nasty |
| 03:26.33 | JoshBorke | disc priest (me), prot warrior, tree druid, rogue (uses fist weapons), feral druid |
| 03:26.40 | nymbia | arcatraz heroic isnt too terrible |
| 03:26.52 | subbawt | it's one of the few i haven't done yet |
| 03:27.10 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 03:27.12 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 03:27.20 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 03:27.22 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on JoshBorke and suddenly hugs JoshBorke tightly |
| 03:27.29 | subbawt | The first boss doesn't look like fun though |
| 03:27.40 | subbawt | He does *so* much damage, even in normal. |
| 03:27.46 | Shadowed | arcatrax is a pain in general |
| 03:28.05 | JoshBorke | the first boss? |
| 03:28.07 | JoshBorke | with the black things? |
| 03:28.08 | Shadowed | s/arcatrax/arcatraz/ |
| 03:28.12 | subbawt | yeah |
| 03:28.18 | JoshBorke | o.O |
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| 03:28.43 | JoshBorke | i guess his aoe shadow bolt thing can be annoying |
| 03:31.15 | nymbia | yeah the first boss is nasty on heroic for sure |
| 03:32.37 | Neuro_Medivh | pandemonius? |
| 03:33.05 | subbawt | pandemonius is mana tombs |
| 03:33.15 | JoshBorke | ok, night guys |
| 03:35.53 | Nom- | Well with that mind flay thing |
| 03:36.04 | Nom- | There were a couple of times where they both hit the tank and did 8k damage |
| 03:36.18 | Nom- | So if it does more damage on heroic, that'd be nearly impossible :/ |
| 03:36.55 | subbawt | is it not able to be interrupted? |
| 03:37.21 | Nom- | yeah but it stuns |
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| 03:37.41 | Nom- | and when he splits, they can both do it |
| 03:38.00 | Shadowed | You can heal through 8k damage with hots/shields |
| 03:38.16 | subbawt | The hardest damage I've had to heal through is the ogre boss in heroic shattered halls |
| 03:38.16 | Shadowed | should be able to reach around 12k-14k health depending on your gear/pots |
| 03:38.21 | subbawt | when he goes into his crazy fire mode |
| 03:39.12 | Nom- | yeah it's easy enough with 12k health on the tank |
| 03:39.24 | Nom- | but if it's more damage on heroic mode, then you're really going to struggle |
| 03:39.32 | Nom- | You're going to need the tank to take flasks just to tank that :/ |
| 03:40.07 | Nom- | at the very least, your whole group will need 250+ Shadow Resist |
| 03:40.35 | subbawt | I don't know about all of that |
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| 03:41.05 | mIsheru | hello all! |
| 03:41.53 | mIsheru | i have , low an behold , a scriopting question! |
| 03:42.08 | mIsheru | how do i check if "randomplayer" is in my raid ? |
| 03:42.15 | Nom- | But all in all, that's quite a boss... |
| 03:42.25 | Nom- | He's basically a mini version of the first boss in AQ40 |
| 03:43.55 | mIsheru | Anyone? |
| 03:44.19 | Nom- | mIsheru: You have to loop through the list of players in the raid |
| 03:44.23 | Nom- | and do a comparison |
| 03:45.01 | mIsheru | ah .. i thougt there might be a better way but *sigh* iguess not |
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| 03:45.46 | Nom- | Well any higher level function is going to have to do that anyway |
| 03:46.01 | Nom- | So it's not worth making a higher level function (ie. IsPlayerInRaid() |
| 03:46.34 | mIsheru | would it be easier to just check location ie in the same dungeon as myself? |
| 03:46.57 | mIsheru | ah scrap that . .they might no t be |
| 03:47.03 | mIsheru | gotta loop it |
| 03:48.17 | Nom- | Might help if you tried to explain what you're trying to acheive |
| 03:48.43 | mIsheru | some one send me a /whisp .. iff they are in my raid the = ! if not in the same raid = 0 . . . |
| 03:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | god i hate bad pugs |
| 03:49.24 | mIsheru | someone sends me a /whisp . . if they are in the raid then = 1 if not = nil |
| 03:49.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | mage won't sheep the freaking moon, people all pick different targets (even if i say ATTACK SKULL) |
| 03:49.45 | Thunder_Child | uhhh..would anyone LIKE bad pugs? |
| 03:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and start dpsing before i can even get a lacerate up |
| 03:50.40 | Nom- | lol Mr_Rabies2 |
| 03:50.41 | Tem | well, um |
| 03:50.47 | Tem | growl gives you threat |
| 03:50.54 | Tem | but only if someone else has agro when you do it |
| 03:50.57 | Tem | so they are doing you a favor |
| 03:51.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure if it was on the global cooldown |
| 03:51.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but 10 seconds is too long when people are all spamming dps on something different |
| 03:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i let the mage tank half the instance because she wouldn't sheep or assist |
| 03:52.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | swipe is nigh worthless now so i have to tab lacerate to hold aoe aggro |
| 03:53.34 | Nom- | mIsheru: It works on up to 3 targets iirc ? |
| 03:53.38 | Nom- | mt |
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| 03:53.45 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: it works on up to 3 targets iirc ? |
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| 03:53.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, but it's crap for aggro now :/ |
| 03:55.04 | Nom- | Warrior Thunderclap ftw |
| 03:55.14 | Nom- | I need to make some macros for my pally lol |
| 03:55.28 | Nom- | Some focus macros and stuff |
| 03:56.20 | Nom- | anyone know if there's an Ag UnitFrames addon to show your focus ? |
| 03:56.33 | mIsheru | so how would I run a loop agaisnt a constant? |
| 03:57.46 | mIsheru | for x = 1 to RaidSize |
| 03:57.52 | mIsheru | or not? |
| 03:59.55 | mIsheru | for x = 1 to RaidSize |
| 03:59.55 | mIsheru | y = GetRaidRosterInfo( x ) arg1 |
| 03:59.55 | mIsheru | if Name = y then end |
| 03:59.55 | mIsheru | next |
| 03:59.55 | mIsheru | or is that WAY off? |
| 04:00.18 | Shadowed | you're close though |
| 04:00.18 | mIsheru | LOL |
| 04:00.24 | mIsheru | rigth idea at least? |
| 04:01.13 | Shadowed | yep, right idea. But you don't make for loops like that |
| 04:01.33 | mIsheru | Sry i am new to this level of programming |
| 04:04.28 | Nom- | Is aftercast fully functional these days ? |
| 04:04.41 | Iriel | No, i've been working on it this week though |
| 04:04.46 | Iriel | I'm optimistic about its chances |
| 04:04.46 | Nom- | I want to set up some funky macros for some of my skills lol |
| 04:04.52 | Nom- | hmmm bugger :( |
| 04:05.03 | Iriel | It 'mostly works' at the moment |
| 04:05.06 | Nom- | Oh, Author: Iriel |
| 04:05.07 | Nom- | *wave* |
| 04:05.29 | Nom- | I thought for a little while that it was built in to WoW now, but alas |
| 04:05.45 | Iriel | What class do you play? |
| 04:05.45 | Nom- | So i'll be wanting that when it's up and running ^_^ |
| 04:05.52 | Nom- | paladin |
| 04:05.58 | Nom- | (occiasionally) mage |
| 04:06.16 | Iriel | Hm, hard to say how well the 2.0 version works for paladin |
| 04:06.20 | Iriel | Mage it's relatively sane for |
| 04:06.27 | Iriel | Warrior,not so good |
| 04:06.59 | Nom- | It's more for things like Lay on Hands, Blessing of Protection etc |
| 04:07.23 | Nom- | So as long as I can /aftercast +done those it's all good |
| 04:07.38 | Iriel | You /should/ be able to |
| 04:07.47 | Iriel | it may be a bit chatty about unexpected events |
| 04:08.35 | mIsheru | how do i use GetRaidRosterInfo() ? |
| 04:09.08 | mIsheru | say i want the first argument returned |
| 04:10.24 | Nom- | hmmmmm ... here's a question for ya |
| 04:10.35 | Nom- | Iriel: Does it handle %T properly if you change targets during cast? |
| 04:10.57 | Iriel | Nom - I'm not entirely sure, it depends when wow expands %t |
| 04:11.00 | Nom- | Like VERY often I start casting a heal on the tank then change to someone else that i'm going to heal next |
| 04:11.18 | Iriel | You may be surprised to learn I dont actually USE aftercast |
| 04:11.25 | Iriel | I just wrote it because people kept asking for it |
| 04:11.25 | Nom- | lol |
| 04:11.57 | Iriel | My advice is 'test it and then please let me know' 8-) |
| 04:12.04 | Nom- | I shall have to test, yea |
| 04:12.29 | Nom- | I mean chances are, I won't bother too much with things like that, but you never know |
| 04:12.53 | mIsheru | http://www.pastey.net/7935 |
| 04:12.53 | mIsheru | is this close? |
| 04:14.00 | Nom- | Doesn't look like it to me... |
| 04:14.09 | Nom- | I suggest you go to the LUA web site and learn the syntax |
| 04:14.11 | Nom- | ~lua |
| 04:14.16 | purl | well, lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
| 04:14.24 | Nom- | purl: botsnack |
| 04:14.24 | purl | aw, gee, Nom- |
| 04:14.52 | Nom- | purl needs a new database I think...her database is really slow |
| 04:14.54 | purl | Nom-: that's too long |
| 04:15.13 | Tain | Lua, not LUA. I know, absurd nitpick. |
| 04:16.36 | mIsheru | I just want a small loop that checks a name agaist the members of my raid and returns either 1 or 0 |
| 04:16.41 | Nom- | Tain you big nitpicker :) |
| 04:16.47 | Tain | I'm a bad man. |
| 04:17.44 | bleetah | purl, spank Tain |
| 04:17.46 | purl | ACTION bends Tain over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Tain's pasty white buttocks. |
| 04:18.36 | Nom- | purl needs to learn better insults |
| 04:18.42 | Nom- | and stuff |
| 04:18.45 | bleetah | aye |
| 04:18.50 | Nom- | stupid bot |
| 04:18.56 | Nom- | ~stupid bot |
| 04:18.57 | purl | Stupid human. |
| 04:19.02 | Nom- | about time |
| 04:19.03 | Nom- | bloody slow |
| 04:19.43 | mIsheru | SO other that reading the .Lua any suggestions? |
| 04:20.34 | Nom- | Well, mIsheru, it seems pretty clear to me that you're not sure what you're doing... |
| 04:20.57 | Nom- | If you don't know the basics of Lua, and you're not prepared to learn, then there's not much we can do to help you :( |
| 04:21.22 | mIsheru | I know that as well as you do , thats why im asking for help and advice |
| 04:22.01 | Nom- | Well, it sounds like you want to treat the display of incoming tells differently depending on whether they're in your group/raid or not |
| 04:22.33 | Nom- | There's going to be a whole lot more involved to do that, than simply a single function to determine if someone is in your group/raid |
| 04:22.52 | Nom- | For instance, you're going to need to trap incoming message events and handle them |
| 04:23.27 | mIsheru | I have the incoming message prt figured and workin gfor the auto response but its the raid check part i cant get past |
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| 04:23.57 | mIsheru | i have the variable of the incoming persons name already |
| 04:23.59 | Nom- | Well, have a look at the unit frames code...there's plenty of examples of looping through your raid |
| 04:24.08 | mIsheru | ok thanks! |
| 04:24.10 | Nom- | Grab just about any unit frames |
| 04:24.22 | nymbia | what's a TipHooker-1.0? |
| 04:24.45 | Nom- | nymbia: Payment for services rendered? |
| 04:25.16 | nymbia | Nom-: rofl |
| 04:25.58 | Seerah_ | lol |
| 04:26.01 | Nom- | Seems to be a library written for/included in RatingBuster |
| 04:26.08 | nymbia | yeah |
| 04:26.26 | Nom- | I can't find any other mention of it, which leads me to believe it was written FOR RatingBuster |
| 04:26.40 | nymbia | why it's not using OnTooltipSetItem is beyond me |
| 04:27.52 | nymbia | i mean.. it looks like it might have been useful before 2.0 |
| 04:28.12 | nymbia | but tooltip hooking is a lot more quick and painless these days |
| 04:28.31 | Tain | I'm so glad hooking has gotten easier. |
| 04:28.42 | nymbia | yeah |
| 04:30.47 | nymbia | i think all this stuff is covered with the new handlers though.. :SetPetAction falls under OnTooltipSetSpell, right? |
| 04:31.39 | Tain | I just wish :SetPetAction worked on my cat. |
| 04:31.59 | nymbia | O.o |
| 04:32.11 | Tain | He doesn't listen! |
| 04:32.34 | nymbia | mine bites me :( |
| 04:32.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | scatter shot him |
| 04:34.51 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm is Kagaro on IRC? |
| 04:35.16 | Cairenn | who? |
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| 04:36.30 | Nickenyfiken | ops wrong chan :-P |
| 04:36.32 | mahiro | hi |
| 04:36.46 | Nom- | ih |
| 04:37.01 | Shirik | hi |
| 04:39.22 | Kirkburn|afk | hihi |
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| 04:40.02 | Kirkburn|afk | This is awful, I have addons that are like a whole month old! |
| 04:40.09 | Xenok | eep lol |
| 04:40.23 | Tain | onoes |
| 04:40.37 | Nom- | hmm speaking off |
| 04:40.38 | Nom- | *poke* |
| 04:40.43 | Nom- | Where's the WoWI Updater ? |
| 04:40.47 | mahiro | how is the distance check made in some addons? is it with a interactdistance check or based on coordinates of party members? |
| 04:40.51 | Xenok | Nom- its finished? |
| 04:41.05 | Nom- | mahiro: Based on whether a particular spell is in range |
| 04:41.27 | Nom- | mahiro: ie. It checks to see if the target is in range of a heal spell for Priests |
| 04:42.30 | mahiro | hmm and how does this work with non healing classes? |
| 04:42.51 | Xenok | any damage spell im guessing. .I havn't experimented with it yet |
| 04:43.04 | mahiro | hmm |
| 04:44.54 | Nom- | Well, depends on the mod |
| 04:45.01 | Nom- | I beleive that PerfectRaid uses AI |
| 04:45.03 | Nom- | for mages |
| 04:45.17 | Nom- | probably something like Serpent Sting for hunters etc |
| 04:46.11 | mahiro | well range check only works if the spell is in the action bar or does it also work from the spellbook? |
| 04:47.10 | Nom- | You can do a check by name |
| 04:47.13 | Nom- | No problem |
| 04:47.41 | mahiro | you mean for the spells in the action bar? |
| 04:48.03 | Nom- | oh if it's a spell in the action bar |
| 04:48.11 | Nom- | yeah...loop through the action bar items and do a rangecheck on them |
| 04:48.16 | Xenok | hmm? ok . I have this: http://wowi.pastey.net/7936 buut the problem is that I can't get line 6 to work unless i get rid of the entire PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA table |
| 04:48.42 | Shirik | ow |
| 04:48.44 | Shirik | those are all globals? |
| 04:48.48 | Xenok | yeah |
| 04:48.53 | Shirik | that's really bad idea |
| 04:49.00 | Xenok | nope lemme explain why |
| 04:49.08 | Shirik | cluttering the global namespace can never be explained |
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| 04:49.18 | Shirik | but go ahead and try |
| 04:50.10 | Xenok | I want to be able to (in my xml) call like Bookmarks:SetText(PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA["Durotar"]); in a button on click.. so that it only displays the things in Durotar.. |
| 04:50.21 | Xenok | but it won't call if its local |
| 04:50.43 | Shirik | MyTable.Bookmarks:SetText() ? |
| 04:51.03 | Xenok | in my xml? |
| 04:51.06 | Shirik | why not |
| 04:51.11 | Xenok | but.. will it work? |
| 04:51.23 | Shirik | I wouldn't be telling you if it doesn't |
| 04:51.26 | nymbia | as long as MyTable is global yeah |
| 04:51.27 | Nom- | That's what namespaces are for :) |
| 04:51.35 | Shirik | I don't make up code and recommend it >< |
| 04:51.40 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:51.52 | Xenok | so wait |
| 04:51.58 | Xenok | hmm |
| 04:52.11 | Nom- | anyone know of a site with picture renderings of all the WoW guild tabard icons ? |
| 04:52.30 | Seerah_ | oh....... hmmm.... I saw one a little bit ago :( |
| 04:52.40 | Seerah_ | of course I can never remember anything when I want to! :( |
| 04:52.43 | Seerah_ | hehe |
| 04:53.00 | nymbia | curse has one i think |
| 04:53.08 | Nom- | http://wowvault.ign.com/?dir=guilds&content=tabards |
| 04:53.10 | Nom- | bleh just found it |
| 04:53.19 | nymbia | or had, i dont think i've looked in a year or so |
| 04:53.20 | Nom- | they're not terribly good tho :( |
| 04:53.28 | nymbia | very true. |
| 04:54.02 | Xenok | I am trying to Change the text of each zone to saved varriables in "savedcoords" / "bookmarksaving" functions so like I can save coords in durotar and be able to change the text to say the saved coords in like .. the barrens... |
| 04:54.12 | Xenok | but im not entirely sure how |
| 04:55.25 | Xenok | and i don't want to have to make like a "savedcoordsbarens" then a "savedcoordsdurotar" etc |
| 04:55.42 | Xenok | cuz thats alot of zones >< |
| 04:56.03 | Shirik | savedcoords["The Barrens"] |
| 04:56.08 | Shirik | savedcoords["Durotar"] |
| 04:56.14 | Shirik | base it off GetPlayerZoneText() |
| 04:56.18 | Shirik | or whatever that API is |
| 04:56.25 | Xenok | GetZoneText() yeah |
| 04:56.38 | Xenok | soo like ... hmm |
| 04:57.06 | Xenok | I would rename my savedcoords function? |
| 04:57.52 | nymbia | or GetRealZoneText, if you want to only have one index per zone.. i'm not sure i understand what you're trying to do |
| 04:58.09 | Xenok | let me fetch my screenie again |
| 05:00.18 | Xenok | notice the dropdown up there? it will open up a list of the 3 continents .click one and open a dropdown with the zones relivant to the conitinet.. I have that .. buttt when I click another zone.. I want to be able to change the 2 saved coords to some saved coords in the other zoen I select in the dropdown: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/cortez1212/help.jpg |
| 05:00.54 | Xenok | PRT stands for Personal Referance Tool ... btw |
| 05:04.05 | Xenok | anyone brave enough to help me then? |
| 05:13.01 | Xenok | la de da .. someone help me? |
| 05:13.47 | Tain | I'm not brave. |
| 05:13.53 | Xenok | lol |
| 05:14.50 | Xenok | anyone? T_T |
| 05:15.19 | Xenok | ~find xenok |
| 05:15.49 | Iriel | I did my time yesterday |
| 05:16.00 | Xenok | lol yeah. but very very vague |
| 05:16.31 | Iriel | I seem to recall providing you with a bunch of code and some specific suggestions.. not vague at all. |
| 05:16.52 | Xenok | well yeah.. alot of it was.. but the topic near the end |
| 05:17.01 | Xenok | the .. changing text to zone part |
| 05:17.43 | Xenok | and i am thankful for your help on what you gave me too |
| 05:21.09 | Xenok | and after you left .. this is what I had my troubles with http://wowi.pastey.net/7851 you didn't specify on the second set of highlighted lines .. on how to create that part... but know I have :http://wowi.pastey.net/7936 which gives me an error on line 6 saying that field is a nil value |
| 05:22.04 | Iriel | There IS no savedcoords2, savedcoords is all you need |
| 05:22.31 | Xenok | but... then how was i supposed to change the text to the different zone i select in dropdown? :P |
| 05:22.57 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7936 is what I have now but that darn error on line 6 for field being nil |
| 05:23.05 | Iriel | Here's my problem |
| 05:24.04 | Iriel | I'm not even sure YOU know what your addon's supposed to DO, I know how it's supposed to work to the user, but the code doesn't seem to bear much resemblence to that. So let's talk about that |
| 05:24.18 | Xenok | what do you mean? |
| 05:24.57 | Iriel | First of all, where do the coordinates come from? |
| 05:25.10 | Iriel | Are they coded into your addon, or do you add them in game some how? |
| 05:25.10 | Xenok | from my position when I call savedcoords() |
| 05:25.23 | Iriel | And what triggers that to happen? |
| 05:25.27 | Iriel | Does your user click on something? |
| 05:25.29 | Xenok | a button |
| 05:25.30 | Xenok | yes |
| 05:25.33 | Iriel | ok. |
| 05:25.41 | Iriel | What does the button do? Just add a new coordinate? |
| 05:26.04 | Xenok | to the list yes. and soon I will make it (I know how ) where you can add coments to it so you know WHY you saved it |
| 05:26.20 | Iriel | "the list" ? |
| 05:26.22 | Iriel | Be more specific |
| 05:26.31 | Iriel | the list of coordinates for the current zone? |
| 05:26.36 | Xenok | the list of saved coords for the zone Iselect |
| 05:26.45 | Iriel | For the zone you select? Interesting. |
| 05:26.50 | Xenok | in a dropdown |
| 05:27.04 | Iriel | But if it's adding yoru current coordinates, how is that useful? |
| 05:27.19 | Xenok | to remember where things are |
| 05:27.23 | Iriel | If you're standing in Thousand Needles, why would you save your current location against say, Darnassus? |
| 05:27.43 | Xenok | it auto detects what zone your in |
| 05:27.49 | Xenok | and saves it in that dropdown |
| 05:28.13 | Iriel | But you just said 'for the zone I select' when I said 'for the current zone' |
| 05:28.24 | Iriel | So that appears to be a bit inconsistent |
| 05:28.29 | Xenok | wiat.. hold on |
| 05:29.06 | Xenok | this whole mod is to bookmark coords... as you are there. so you can remember where things are without having to look it up again in like thottbot or something |
| 05:29.18 | Xenok | and |
| 05:29.38 | Xenok | its orginized by zone |
| 05:29.51 | Xenok | not just one page wiht a ton of coords |
| 05:29.53 | Iriel | Alright |
| 05:30.13 | Iriel | But when you save a coord, regardless of which zone you're looking at, it should save for the zone you're standing in, right? |
| 05:30.21 | Xenok | correct |
| 05:31.06 | Iriel | So, these dropdowns, the idea is when you select a zone from the dropdown you switch to display the coords from the selected zone? |
| 05:31.20 | Xenok | right |
| 05:31.44 | Iriel | What happens when you change zones? Does it automatically switch to the new zone, or only if the previously selected zone was the old current zone |
| 05:32.20 | Xenok | it will detect which zone your in and save it into the dropdown that has that name |
| 05:32.24 | Xenok | name of hte zone that is |
| 05:33.21 | Xenok | old current? |
| 05:33.37 | Iriel | I.e. I was in Durotar, I move to The Barrens |
| 05:33.50 | Iriel | if I was looking at Darnassus, does it flip me to look at The Barrens? |
| 05:33.55 | Xenok | nope |
| 05:34.03 | Iriel | Or does it leave me on Darnassus because Darnassus ~= Durotar |
| 05:34.10 | Xenok | lol purl |
| 05:34.22 | Xenok | took you how long purl? |
| 05:35.12 | Xenok | the display will stay on the zone you where looking at. but the saving saves it in durotar |
| 05:35.20 | Xenok | if your in durotar that is |
| 05:35.53 | bleetah | Iriel: thanks for WatchCombat.. love it ;) :D |
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| 05:38.52 | Xenok | why did you stop asking question iriel? |
| 05:40.08 | Iriel | Xenok: Ponder these http://wowi.pastey.net/7937 |
| 05:40.25 | Iriel | Organize your functions along the lines of the actions you want to do |
| 05:41.50 | Xenok | I leave [zone] as [zone] ? |
| 05:42.16 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, lag is killing me tonight |
| 05:42.19 | Iriel | yes, zone is a variable |
| 05:42.25 | Neuro_Medivh | literally |
| 05:42.28 | Iriel | you'd call it like: showBookmarks("Durotar") |
| 05:42.33 | Xenok | ahhh |
| 05:42.42 | Iriel | or addBookmark("Durotar", 20, 71, "Some happy place") |
| 05:42.53 | Xenok | so a function for each zone? |
| 05:42.55 | Iriel | or addBookmark(GetZoneText(), coordX, coordY, label) |
| 05:42.56 | Iriel | NO |
| 05:42.59 | Xenok | lol |
| 05:43.09 | Iriel | do you understand how variables work? |
| 05:43.18 | Xenok | shh im thinking :P |
| 05:44.10 | Xenok | ill awser that question after I try something with that |
| 05:44.57 | Xenok | I don't see zone = anything on there |
| 05:45.11 | Xenok | >< rmember im new at this |
| 05:45.22 | Iriel | That goes back somewhat to my question on variables |
| 05:45.39 | Iriel | (Nom- I'd imagine so also) |
| 05:45.50 | Xenok | I need to look up what that is first :P |
| 05:46.08 | Iriel | Most useful functions tend to be GENERAL solutions to problems |
| 05:46.19 | Iriel | so addBookmark adds a bookmark to **ANY** zone |
| 05:46.28 | Iriel | The zone has to be provided, the thing that's calling it sends that in |
| 05:46.51 | Iriel | So you dont need a function for each zone |
| 05:46.54 | Xenok | I think I get it |
| 05:47.00 | Iriel | you just call the one function with the zone you're interested in NOW |
| 05:47.09 | Iriel | LATER you call it with another zone |
| 05:47.35 | Iriel | If you ignore all your dropdown stuff for now (Which is probably a good idea to get going) then really you have 2 things that happen... |
| 05:47.39 | Xenok | Nom- is http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/6386/questareas/ the mod you where reffering to? |
| 05:48.00 | Nom- | no |
| 05:48.03 | Xenok | didnt' think so |
| 05:48.10 | Iriel | (1) On a ZONE_UPDATE event (or whatever event you need) you call showBookmarks(GetZoneText()) |
| 05:48.29 | Xenok | oh |
| 05:48.34 | Iriel | (2) when you click, you do addBookmark(GetZoneText(), coordX, coordY, someLabel); then showBookmarks(GetZoneText()) |
| 05:48.36 | Xenok | hehe forgot about updates |
| 05:48.40 | Iriel | You already have code to figure out coordX and coordY |
| 05:49.43 | Nom- | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer |
| 05:50.19 | Neuro_Medivh | or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6403-Cartographer.html |
| 05:50.37 | Neuro_Medivh | which has more user friendly instructions |
| 05:51.09 | Nom- | There's different modules...the ones you'll be after are 'Waypoints', 'Quests' and 'QuestObjectives' |
| 05:51.09 | Nom- | most likely |
| 05:51.09 | Xenok | hmm im not modifiying the map itself though |
| 05:51.35 | Xenok | wait.. that shows your questobjectives?! |
| 05:51.36 | Nom- | What is it that you're actually trying to acheive? |
| 05:51.42 | Xenok | makes the game almost to easy |
| 05:51.44 | Xenok | umm |
| 05:52.03 | Nom- | The database is blank to start with..it has be populated by information it gathers ingame |
| 05:52.11 | Xenok | ah |
| 05:52.19 | Xenok | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/cortez1212/help.jpg |
| 05:52.26 | Nom- | You *could* get a pre-populated database |
| 05:52.27 | Xenok | thats what im after |
| 05:52.33 | Xenok | my just posted link |
| 05:52.42 | bleetah | I think MetaMap is a similar mod, or at least, aims to achieve similar results |
| 05:52.47 | Xenok | thats acutally a screnie of what I have |
| 05:52.49 | Nom- | To what end... what is it you're *trying* to do? |
| 05:52.54 | bleetah | (to what was described above, not the img link) |
| 05:52.56 | Nom- | Make it easier to find a location you've saved previously? |
| 05:53.04 | Xenok | yes |
| 05:53.05 | Neuro_Medivh | then there's NeuroMap |
| 05:53.07 | Xenok | sorta |
| 05:53.07 | Nom- | Cartographer + Cartogerpher_Waypoints will do that |
| 05:53.11 | Xenok | shhh |
| 05:53.16 | Neuro_Medivh | which isn't an addon per se |
| 05:53.27 | Nom- | Plus, when you activate a waypoint, it will give you an onscreen arrow showing you which direction to go too |
| 05:53.28 | Neuro_Medivh | more like 'I gotta remember where all da stuff is' |
| 05:53.28 | bleetah | Neuro_Medivh: pure brain power? |
| 05:53.33 | bleetah | hehehe |
| 05:54.11 | Shadowed | Any admin mind approving two addons quickly? :D |
| 05:54.11 | Neuro_Medivh | it's REALLY buggy though |
| 05:54.11 | Nom- | What is? |
| 05:54.11 | Neuro_Medivh | NeuroMap |
| 05:54.11 | Nom- | Oh lol |
| 05:54.24 | bleetah | sounds scarily similar to BleetMap |
| 05:54.24 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 05:54.51 | bleetah | which is why I'm now using metamap... why didn't I use cartographer? RL friend of mine had already isntalled metamap and started using it |
| 05:55.01 | bleetah | so, instead of starting a mod war with him.. i just gave in |
| 05:55.14 | Neuro_Medivh | I use atlas |
| 05:55.15 | Xenok | hehe |
| 05:56.01 | Neuro_Medivh | I also have Yatlas installed, though I think I should remove it, I never really use it |
| 05:56.23 | Cairenn | Shadowed: nevah! |
| 06:00.18 | Shadowed | Cairenn thanks |
| 06:00.22 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:00.35 | Shadowed | Shikatanai: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6970-NameplatesPVP.html thats pretty close to what you wanted, still beta though. |
| 06:00.57 | Garoun | yay! |
| 06:01.11 | Garoun | officially finished all 5 man pre-heroic instances :) |
| 06:01.23 | Neuro_Medivh | which 5? |
| 06:01.24 | Garoun | not bad for a bunchof casuals hehe |
| 06:01.30 | Garoun | all BC ones |
| 06:01.41 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, all 5-man |
| 06:01.56 | Neuro_Medivh | we can't seem to beat the Warp Splinter |
| 06:02.00 | Garoun | finished Arcatraz a few minutes ago :) |
| 06:02.08 | Garoun | which method do you use? |
| 06:02.10 | Neuro_Medivh | but pretty sure that's cause the mage is weak |
| 06:02.23 | Neuro_Medivh | we've tried several |
| 06:02.29 | Garoun | do you tank him where he starts? |
| 06:02.32 | Neuro_Medivh | the problem is, this is one of those newest servers |
| 06:02.38 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, and AE the trees |
| 06:02.40 | Garoun | or pull him back up the walkway some |
| 06:02.58 | Neuro_Medivh | no, the tank pulls him a bit away, and the rest of us stand where he spawns |
| 06:03.03 | Garoun | we put the group in his start spot, and I bear tank him back up the tunnel |
| 06:03.19 | Garoun | then all dps stops on him when trees pop |
| 06:03.31 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, that's what we've been trying, but it seems if even one of those damn trees lives, he gets a ton of health |
| 06:03.45 | Garoun | kill all trees within 20s then dps |
| 06:04.01 | Neuro_Medivh | we usually can get all 6 though, they're so spread out |
| 06:04.02 | Garoun | you may have gotten some bad rolls on the random gen :( |
| 06:04.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/d/DuskAshes/64199/ofoogcsqsm.jpg |
| 06:04.08 | Neuro_Medivh | s/can/can't/ |
| 06:04.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry |
| 06:04.25 | Garoun | because it's not a fixed amountof health the trees give back |
| 06:05.07 | Garoun | the main thing with teh saplings is you have to hitevery one of them the moment they spawn or they won't stack well enough to do that aoe method |
| 06:05.39 | Neuro_Medivh | we'll keep trying it... part of the problem was the mage wasn't very good, to be honest |
| 06:05.50 | Neuro_Medivh | the other is that I'm currently enhance specced, which makes me useless |
| 06:06.00 | Neuro_Medivh | except in pulling in trees |
| 06:06.04 | Garoun | oh so you're playing a shammy and not mage? |
| 06:06.16 | Neuro_Medivh | Yes |
| 06:06.43 | Neuro_Medivh | which is sad, cause now shaman are crap at 70 |
| 06:06.43 | Xenok | enhance speced shammys ftw! |
| 06:06.53 | Garoun | that's interesting though, enhance usually can put out some decent dps, butthey are tough on mana Ithink |
| 06:07.00 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, I can |
| 06:07.08 | Neuro_Medivh | but I draw aggro no matter what if i do |
| 06:07.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Stormstrike's debuff is just insane aggro |
| 06:07.26 | Xenok | but it is nice with earthshock ;) |
| 06:07.33 | Neuro_Medivh | Um, no |
| 06:07.38 | Neuro_Medivh | my earthshock is lvl 1 |
| 06:07.45 | Xenok | then get 9!! |
| 06:07.49 | Neuro_Medivh | I have 9 |
| 06:07.57 | Shirik | he thinks he's op |
| 06:08.00 | Shirik | so he's nerfing himself |
| 06:08.02 | Xenok | then .. what level 1? |
| 06:08.23 | Xenok | why use 1 if you have 9?! |
| 06:08.24 | Neuro_Medivh | Earth Shock drains too much mana and is even more aggro |
| 06:08.29 | Neuro_Medivh | because it's cheaper |
| 06:08.34 | Xenok | but does the job quick |
| 06:08.42 | Xenok | your . just making it harder to play |
| 06:08.47 | Shirik | must learn Xenok |
| 06:08.58 | Neuro_Medivh | No, I'm making it easier |
| 06:09.02 | Shirik | not everything is about spamming your strongest, most mana draining skills |
| 06:09.11 | Shirik | strategy, conservation when needed |
| 06:09.20 | Neuro_Medivh | by using rank 1, I have mana for heals |
| 06:09.20 | Shirik | if earth shock 1 is enough, then that's what you use |
| 06:09.20 | Garoun | the hardest part is most definately the little saplings |
| 06:09.28 | Xenok | I know thats why i use magma totem 1 to detect rogues |
| 06:09.40 | Garoun | but I'd hope you have a druid or priest there healing |
| 06:09.45 | Neuro_Medivh | priest, yes |
| 06:09.56 | Garoun | cause the tree hits really hard on occasions :) |
| 06:10.03 | Neuro_Medivh | but I can't stand up to that 2k warstomp |
| 06:10.08 | Neuro_Medivh | so I can't melee |
| 06:10.30 | Garoun | wait, so you're using all ranged dps on him? |
| 06:10.43 | Neuro_Medivh | group is war, hunter, mage, priest, me |
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| 06:10.50 | Neuro_Medivh | so ranged is already most of our dps |
| 06:11.17 | Garoun | interesting that our's is primarily melee :) |
| 06:11.38 | Neuro_Medivh | well, that list is about 70% of all the lvl 70s on the server |
| 06:11.39 | Garoun | our typical group is shadow priest, holy priest, tank druid, dps druid, paly/rogue |
| 06:11.48 | Neuro_Medivh | so it's not like we have a lot of choice =) |
| 06:11.53 | Garoun | yeah |
| 06:12.00 | Garoun | botanica is tough |
| 06:12.27 | Garoun | how welldo you do vs the spam pets and tranquility uy? |
| 06:12.29 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, the rest was really easy, we got most bosses down on the first try, even prenerf |
| 06:12.35 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, he's easy |
| 06:12.50 | Neuro_Medivh | we just go out of LOS when he tranqs |
| 06:13.10 | Neuro_Medivh | drawing the little treants to us out of his heal aura |
| 06:13.12 | Shirik | anyone here have a recommendation for distribution of linux? I've used SuSE for a while but I just gotten bored with it over the years :P |
| 06:13.23 | Iriel | I use debian |
| 06:13.35 | Iriel | It's relatively unoffensive, and apt/dpkg works pretty well |
| 06:13.41 | Neuro_Medivh | so far, the hardest bosses for us to do have been Warp Splinter, and the Ogre guy in Shadow Lab |
| 06:13.53 | Garoun | thats what Iwas curious about |
| 06:14.11 | Garoun | and Icould see ogre being a problem, since 90% of your group doesn't even have to move to dps someone :P |
| 06:14.26 | Neuro_Medivh | it's a pain, yeah |
| 06:14.31 | Xenok | can't move rather :P |
| 06:14.37 | Shirik | hmm thanks Iriel I'll check it out :) |
| 06:15.35 | Neuro_Medivh | Murmur was surprisingly easy once you figure out what his attacks do |
| 06:15.40 | Garoun | yep |
| 06:15.56 | Garoun | and your tank knows how to intercept/shift stance :P |
| 06:16.01 | Garoun | or isa druid |
| 06:16.17 | Neuro_Medivh | of course, our extensive MC knowledge helped =) |
| 06:16.23 | Garoun | it's not pretty when murmur gets pissy hehe |
| 06:16.46 | Neuro_Medivh | "Oh look, Ragnaros. Oh, I have living bomb, I know this strat" =) |
| 06:16.54 | Garoun | hehe |
| 06:17.01 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, our tank just takes the sonic boom full frontal |
| 06:17.19 | Garoun | my g/f that sits behind me and is usually my MH is holy spec and has +1034 healing |
| 06:17.26 | Garoun | so that works very well with druid tank |
| 06:17.35 | Neuro_Medivh | heheh, you're probably on a server older than 2 months =) |
| 06:17.41 | Garoun | yeah, that too |
| 06:18.23 | Neuro_Medivh | my group is literally the first ones on server to explore TK |
| 06:18.59 | Garoun | we have very little wow end-game knowledge but a good understanding of the tactics for the encounters |
| 06:19.06 | Sstixrud | is there a way to this:RegisterEvent* ? :) |
| 06:19.43 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 06:20.03 | Tem | it's not hard |
| 06:20.05 | Garoun | at least with BC neuro, your only real roadblock is funds |
| 06:20.07 | Tem | just takes patience |
| 06:20.24 | Tem | Sstixrud, do you mean to register for all events? |
| 06:20.41 | Tem | frame:RegisterAllEvents() is what you're looking for if that's the case |
| 06:20.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | this tea i'm drinking has catnip in it @_@ |
| 06:20.50 | Sstixrud | ya, I have a situation where I want to see what the last event issued after I do something specific |
| 06:21.00 | Tem | also, use 'self' |
| 06:21.13 | Sstixrud | thanks |
| 06:21.42 | Garoun | I need to smack one of the tanks in our guild |
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| 06:21.46 | Nom- | Well, it's claimed that TeX is the way to go as far as preparing large documents |
| 06:21.56 | Nom- | Compared to MS Word which just tends to take ages for longer documents |
| 06:22.11 | Garoun | hewas doing first boss in steamvaults, had a hunter freeze trap one elemental while he tanked boss and the other |
| 06:22.19 | Garoun | ..... there was a warlock in teh group, sigh |
| 06:23.06 | Nom- | Some elementals are immune to banish... |
| 06:23.08 | Nom- | I don't know about that boss though |
| 06:23.15 | Garoun | I'm pretty sure you can fear or banish hers |
| 06:23.30 | Garoun | but still, you at least TRY to banish :P |
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| 06:24.02 | Xenok | why is pastey being slow? |
| 06:25.06 | Xenok | pastey is bugged.. |
| 06:26.31 | Xenok | ok there we go |
| 06:26.37 | Xenok | Iriel .. is this right?: http://wowi.pastey.net/7938 |
| 06:30.21 | Sstixrud | Ted: It looks like ACTIONBAR_SHOWGRID is the last event called after I pickup a spell from the spell book.. but even this event is to early to over-ride wow's default behavior of unhiding all non :Hide() buttons |
| 06:30.35 | Sstixrud | any idea how to supress this behavior? |
| 06:30.59 | Iriel | Sstixrud: There's an attribute to tell the buttons to stay hidden |
| 06:31.04 | Iriel | statehidden, or somesuch |
| 06:32.39 | Sstixrud | hmm ya I am using that to make them useable.. but I am also :Hide() some of my buttons which makes the button background go away.. when I pickup a spell it pops back |
| 06:33.11 | Sstixrud | I guess I am wanting a behavior that does not exist.. perhaps ill just dynamically statehidden true/false as the user moves the slider |
| 06:35.03 | Xenok | WTF?!!? IRIIIIEEELLL!!! |
| 06:35.11 | Xenok | after i did your code wow said i have a trojen!! |
| 06:35.39 | Iriel | Xenok: Then stop downloading and running pirated software or untrusted executables.. Dear god, get a grip. |
| 06:35.48 | Xenok | I havn't been |
| 06:36.05 | Xenok | im not the only one who uses this comp too |
| 06:36.14 | Iriel | Presumably you have a virus scanner, so have it do a check |
| 06:36.22 | Xenok | I will |
| 06:36.32 | Iriel | It has nothing to do with lua or xml, tho |
| 06:37.09 | Xenok | hope so |
| 06:38.06 | Cairenn | no "hope so" about it, pure lua & xml ~= trojan |
| 06:38.19 | Xenok | k |
| 06:38.29 | Xenok | I have no idea where it came from then |
| 06:39.30 | Cairenn | well, I can assure you that there's no way you'd ever get a trojan from anything Iriel codes, the mere suggestion is simply ludicrous |
| 06:39.55 | Xenok | ok |
| 06:39.56 | bleetah | I could make a suggestion, but I've promised to keep out of 'OS war threads' ;) :-P |
| 06:40.05 | Xenok | no im not getting linuz |
| 06:40.08 | Xenok | linux |
| 06:40.08 | Cairenn | anyway, night guys |
| 06:40.44 | nymbia | night Cairenn|afk |
| 06:40.51 | bleetah | nn Cairenn|afk, rest well |
| 06:42.34 | Xenok | OMG!! WAIT!!!! It only happend after I LOOKED at curse gaming!.... I HEARED RUMERS ABOUT THEM! |
| 06:43.29 | Neuro_Medivh | sadly, some of the rumors have basis in fact |
| 06:43.54 | bleetah | Neuro_Medivh speaks the truth, sadly |
| 06:44.06 | bleetah | well, it's not sad you speak the truth.. the truth of which you speak is sad :) |
| 06:44.10 | Xenok | soo.. curse doensn't haxx? |
| 06:44.41 | bleetah | they don't appear to be as thorough in checking their content as, say, wowinterface are |
| 06:44.57 | Xenok | hmm |
| 06:45.56 | nymbia | well curse you can just upload any ole file |
| 06:46.08 | nymbia | wowi it has to go through admin approval |
| 06:46.59 | Neuro_Medivh | curse and worldofwar.net have had issues in the past of advertisers and hackers slipping malicious trojans on the website |
| 06:47.39 | bleetah | I was intentionally being overly kind in my previous statement ;) |
| 06:48.20 | bleetah | mind you, I know some Mac users who swear by those sites.. so.. whatever floats your goat, I guess :-D |
| 06:48.39 | Xenok | goats float? |
| 06:48.57 | bleetah | by asking that, I know you're just doing it wrong |
| 06:48.58 | Tem | whatever turns your ziz wheel |
| 06:49.19 | Xenok | I guess so bleetah |
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| 06:50.50 | Xenok | I got a "Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Agent variant" is that the worst kind or something? |
| 06:51.04 | Xenok | of the ones mentioned on blizzs site |
| 06:51.15 | Shirik | hrm, that looks like simply heuristic |
| 06:51.32 | Xenok | heuristic? |
| 06:51.33 | Shirik | where and what detected it? |
| 06:51.38 | Xenok | Laucher |
| 06:51.51 | Xenok | for wow |
| 06:52.05 | Shirik | heuristics are a way of detecting viruses. Rather than looking for known viruses, you look for common sequences of code which tend to be viral |
| 06:52.27 | Xenok | im not taking the chance |
| 06:52.42 | Shirik | does it tell you where it was? |
| 06:52.46 | Xenok | nope |
| 06:52.50 | Xenok | just says on my comp |
| 06:52.52 | Shirik | well that's awesome |
| 06:53.01 | Shirik | it says you have it but gives you no info on how to remove it |
| 06:53.02 | Xenok | and to do alllll of my comp in a acan |
| 06:53.34 | Shirik | I would (1) fully scan your computer, (2) then verify its removal with another scan, (3) then change your password |
| 06:53.36 | Neuro_Medivh | Just make sure it's not the Snowcrash virus... if it starts displaying weird patterns on your screen, look away quickly, before it downloads via optic synapses into your brain |
| 06:53.44 | Shirik | roflperh |
| 06:53.51 | Shirik | er |
| 06:53.58 | Shirik | don't know where that "perh" came from >.> |
| 06:54.04 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:54.14 | Shirik | I'm on my laptop, I don't like its keyboard >.> |
| 06:54.51 | Xenok | and its only scaned 6443/1305731 or so files .. last I checked |
| 06:54.56 | bleetah | with any luck, you *don't* have a Storm Worm variant |
| 06:55.11 | Xenok | Storm worm? |
| 06:55.21 | bleetah | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/07/storm_malware_defenses/ |
| 06:55.40 | Shirik | it uses nanotechnology to summon small rain clouds inside your computer |
| 06:55.45 | Shirik | shorting out all circuitry |
| 06:55.56 | bleetah | kijnda.. pretty much.. heh. |
| 06:55.58 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:55.59 | bleetah | -j |
| 06:56.22 | Xenok | omg avast! go past 6443!!! |
| 06:56.34 | bleetah | self modifying trojan that modifies and transmits itself too fast for AV authors to push out detection updates |
| 06:56.53 | Xenok | eep |
| 06:56.54 | Shirik | I've seen one of those before |
| 06:56.59 | Shirik | released a few years ago |
| 06:57.06 | Shirik | it took forever for AV companies to catch up |
| 06:57.30 | Xenok | "By the end of January, more than 54,000 varriants" |
| 06:57.34 | Shirik | transmitted itself through IRC, AIM, and other instant messaging systems (I think email too?) and looked for a specific vulnerability in windows servers at the time |
| 06:57.34 | Xenok | thats one month |
| 06:57.39 | Shirik | yup |
| 06:57.47 | Shirik | it self-modifies itself to avoid heuristics |
| 06:57.57 | Shirik | remember when I said that word a little while back? ^^ I didn't make it up |
| 06:57.59 | Xenok | OMG!! emails too!! my mom opens alot of em |
| 06:58.14 | Shirik | I'm talking about something else :P |
| 06:58.17 | Xenok | oh |
| 06:58.29 | Shirik | But, unless they still haven't patched the vulnerability in Outlook, it's impossible to get a virus directly through email |
| 06:58.32 | Xenok | nanotech? |
| 06:58.43 | Shirik | you have to intentionally download a program which was attached |
| 06:58.59 | Xenok | not I .. but my mom did use the comp while I was afk recently |
| 06:59.22 | Shirik | I recommend you use a good AV tool, touch it up with HijackThis, and then change your password |
| 06:59.29 | Shirik | try kaspersky |
| 07:00.01 | Xenok | im using avast. and downloading antivir workstation |
| 07:00.22 | Shirik | a beautiful program: http://usa.kaspersky.com/downloads/ |
| 07:01.29 | Xenok | lol I have to redownload anti vir workstation .. says that I need to cuz some of the instilation files where corrupt XD |
| 07:01.42 | Shirik | that was probably intentional |
| 07:01.45 | bleetah | i recall that IM worm/trojan/virus/whatever.. I larfed, being a *nix/gaim user |
| 07:01.56 | Shirik | there are viruses that intentionally destroy AV programs |
| 07:02.06 | Shirik | which is why it's always best to run an offline virus scan if possible |
| 07:02.07 | Xenok | that sucks |
| 07:02.30 | bleetah | ouch, maybe your AV's been comprimised... I would, about now, be pulling out my HD, putting in a new one, running up a new windows install, placing an AV onto it, then adding the current drive as a D: or similar, then scan it |
| 07:02.42 | bleetah | or similar |
| 07:02.48 | Shirik | or something non-windows |
| 07:02.58 | Shirik | if it were you |
| 07:03.30 | Xenok | "In 2006, anti-virus firm Kaspersky Lab added 80,000 virus-pattern" |
| 07:03.40 | Shirik | that'st just patterns too |
| 07:03.41 | Xenok | pattern records* |
| 07:03.44 | Shirik | not viruses total |
| 07:03.44 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:04.02 | Shirik | many viruses share the same patterns or have variants |
| 07:04.06 | Shirik | most viruses have around 10 variants |
| 07:04.15 | Shirik | expect, maybe each pattern to match 4 viruses |
| 07:04.20 | Shirik | that's 3.2m viruses |
| 07:04.20 | bleetah | *ni Host->VMWare client->Mount infected drive->Clean |
| 07:04.32 | bleetah | *nix |
| 07:06.19 | Xenok | AHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY MOM PAYS BILLS/ ACCESSES BANK VIA THIS COMP!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:06.34 | Shirik | .. oops |
| 07:06.59 | Xenok | and i havn't opend wow on this comp all day so who knows how long its bee non here >< |
| 07:06.59 | haste | ookey |
| 07:07.15 | Shirik | if you're relying on WoW to be your antivirus program |
| 07:07.17 | Shirik | there's a problem |
| 07:07.20 | Xenok | im not |
| 07:07.42 | bleetah | he was just inferring that WoW was the first indicator he had a problem |
| 07:07.54 | bleetah | or.. stating my inferment.. or something.. I need more coffee |
| 07:08.11 | bleetah | but, it's kinda nice to know that it works if your AV is hosed :) |
| 07:08.20 | bleetah | prul, hug Xenok |
| 07:08.24 | Xenok | prul? |
| 07:08.33 | bleetah | yeah, that's purl's dyslexic cousin |
| 07:08.37 | bleetah | must be afk for now... |
| 07:08.38 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:08.40 | bleetah | pur, hug Xenok |
| 07:08.43 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:08.44 | bleetah | fuggit |
| 07:08.47 | Xenok | XD |
| 07:08.50 | Neuro_Medivh | purl, hug bleetah |
| 07:09.07 | purl | ACTION jumps into bleetah's lap and huggles and *hugs* bleetah |
| 07:09.08 | haste | fgsfds! |
| 07:09.08 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, no love |
| 07:09.08 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:09.11 | bleetah | purl knows I love teh coffee more |
| 07:09.13 | Xenok | OMG!! lol late |
| 07:09.13 | bleetah | meh |
| 07:09.36 | Xenok | purl, kiss bleetah |
| 07:09.38 | purl | ACTION forces bleetah to give GomiNoSensei a big kiss on the lips |
| 07:09.44 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:10.28 | Xenok | purl, appologize |
| 07:10.30 | purl | dpkg: I'm sorry :) |
| 07:10.43 | Xenok | ~dpkg |
| 07:10.45 | purl | [dpkg] a bot, or the low-level command to install and manipulate Debian package files (.debs). |
| 07:10.57 | Xenok | ah |
| 07:11.00 | Xenok | ty purl |
| 07:11.17 | Shirik | meh |
| 07:11.19 | bleetah | I presume that's from your previous 'find' (and the reason it took forever to return from the find itself) |
| 07:11.19 | Shirik | rpms :P |
| 07:11.22 | Shirik | ~rpm |
| 07:11.23 | purl | Red Hat's package management system. URL: http://www.rpm.org/ |
| 07:11.28 | Shirik | :) |
| 07:11.40 | Xenok | bleetah: prolly |
| 07:11.56 | Neuro_Medivh | botsnack |
| 07:12.01 | Neuro_Medivh | ~botsnack |
| 07:12.01 | purl | :), Neuro_Medivh |
| 07:12.15 | Xenok | ~food |
| 07:12.20 | purl | somebody said food was essential to life |
| 07:12.20 | Shirik | ~bacon |
| 07:12.21 | purl | i heard bacon is a filling substance which will make you even fatter than you already are... Take my advice, bacon is a food for the gods or for underweight models such as that McBeal chick... |
| 07:12.21 | bleetah | I know this is gunna fail badly.. but seing we're discussing package/source foo... |
| 07:12.22 | bleetah | ~pc |
| 07:12.23 | purl | A PC is a Personal Computer. A Macintosh is a PC. PC doesn't automatically mean x86, damn it. Politically Correct |
| 07:12.33 | bleetah | purl fails! |
| 07:12.34 | purl | I fail? I FAIL? NO, YOU FAIL!!! |
| 07:12.34 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:12.39 | Xenok | omg! |
| 07:12.42 | bleetah | prul, YOU NO TAKE CANDLE! |
| 07:12.45 | bleetah | gah |
| 07:12.51 | bleetah | purl, YOU NO TAKE CANDLE! |
| 07:13.05 | Shirik | YOU NO TAKE MUSHROOM! |
| 07:13.11 | Xenok | purl, who is tem? |
| 07:13.13 | purl | Xenok: what are you talking about? |
| 07:13.19 | Xenok | dunno |
| 07:13.25 | Shirik | ~foo |
| 07:13.27 | purl | i heard foo is bar |
| 07:13.31 | Shirik | o.O |
| 07:13.40 | Shirik | purl's crazy |
| 07:13.43 | Xenok | yes |
| 07:13.49 | Xenok | ~bar |
| 07:13.52 | purl | i guess bar is baz or a friend of foo |
| 07:13.58 | Xenok | ~baz |
| 07:14.03 | purl | rumour has it, baz is a GNU Arch compatible RCS/SCM/VCS. |
| 07:14.10 | Shirik | what the hell? |
| 07:14.14 | Xenok | wtf? |
| 07:14.35 | Xenok | purl is dumb |
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| 07:15.00 | Xenok | ~god |
| 07:15.10 | purl | i guess god is a llama, or real unless declared integer |
| 07:15.28 | Xenok | umm w/e |
| 07:16.36 | Xenok | ~limbo |
| 07:17.09 | Tem | ~llamasongpart1 |
| 07:17.11 | purl | here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. |
| 07:17.13 | Tem | ~llamasongpart2 |
| 07:17.15 | Xenok | ogm |
| 07:17.25 | Xenok | omg |
| 07:17.26 | Shirik | wait wait |
| 07:17.29 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure |
| 07:17.32 | Shirik | that brick is supposed to be "cake" |
| 07:17.40 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:17.41 | Shirik | I'm gonna go check it |
| 07:17.46 | Tem | I'm pretty sure you're wrong |
| 07:17.47 | Neuro_Medivh | You're thinking of the scottish version |
| 07:18.12 | Neuro_Medivh | where cakes are considered bricks |
| 07:18.13 | Tem | ~llamasongpart3 |
| 07:18.14 | purl | did you ever see a llama kiss a llama on the llama, llama's llama tastes of llama, llama llama duck. half a llama twice the llama not a llama farmer llama in a car alarm a llama llama duck. |
| 07:18.24 | Shirik | grr |
| 07:18.26 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:18.28 | Shirik | I confused it with the cheesecake |
| 07:18.40 | Xenok | ~llama |
| 07:18.42 | purl | methinks llama is the incarnation of god on earth, or http://images2.jokaroo.net/flash/llamasong.swf |
| 07:18.47 | Tem | oops |
| 07:18.52 | Shirik | xenok : http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php |
| 07:18.56 | Tem | that part three is missing a "llama" |
| 07:19.04 | Xenok | ah ok |
| 07:19.07 | Xenok | ty shirik |
| 07:19.50 | Xenok | omg thats awomse |
| 07:19.52 | Tem | oh wait, no it's not |
| 07:19.57 | Tem | ~llamasongpart4 |
| 07:20.11 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.24 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm still partial to www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee.php |
| 07:21.16 | *** part/#wowi-lounge sancus (n=none@off.net) |
| 07:21.23 | Xenok | watching now neuro |
| 07:21.36 | Tem | meh |
| 07:21.38 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:21.47 | Xenok | odd |
| 07:21.53 | Tem | llama > squirrel on drugs |
| 07:22.11 | Xenok | EEPP!! it shows gonads!! |
| 07:22.18 | Neuro_Medivh | and strife |
| 07:22.31 | Xenok | sick |
| 07:22.45 | Tem | lol |
| 07:22.49 | Tem | ron jeremy |
| 07:23.13 | Xenok | one of my faves http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bomb.php |
| 07:23.18 | Shirik | my fave: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/showdown |
| 07:23.27 | bleetah | anyone know what tonight's hotfix is for? |
| 07:23.59 | Neuro_Medivh | No, the High King of them all is this: http://uninteresting.myby.co.uk/noeffort/romjul.htm |
| 07:24.02 | Xenok | OMG SHIRIK!! the utlimit showdown!! |
| 07:24.14 | Xenok | lemon demon!! |
| 07:24.25 | Xenok | best song evur |
| 07:24.52 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Elkano (i=Elkano@client0876.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 07:25.19 | Xenok | lol robin half naked |
| 07:26.00 | Tem | ... and the rest saw their better: Mr. Rogers in a blood-stained sweater. |
| 07:26.03 | Tem | <2 |
| 07:26.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lemon Demon is awesome |
| 07:26.24 | Tem | indeed |
| 07:26.43 | Xenok | chuck noris |
| 07:26.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i watched his stuff on albinoblacksheep like, almost a decade ago now |
| 07:26.48 | Tem | *sigh* luaforge is being gay |
| 07:26.55 | Tem | anyone have the bitlib docs handy? |
| 07:27.24 | Shirik | do you need a specific operation? |
| 07:28.18 | Tem | xor |
| 07:28.27 | Tem | I just don't remember what it called it |
| 07:28.30 | Shirik | isn't it bit.bxor ? |
| 07:28.34 | Tem | possibly |
| 07:28.46 | Tem | yep, thanks :) |
| 07:29.29 | Shirik | np :) |
| 07:29.32 | Shirik | now um.... |
| 07:29.46 | Shirik | explain to me why my linux install just crapped out on me T_T |
| 07:29.57 | Tem | don't make me say it |
| 07:29.57 | Shirik | Well let me take that back it worked perfectly |
| 07:30.04 | Shirik | but it never asked me for a root password! |
| 07:30.05 | Tem | .... |
| 07:30.09 | Shirik | so how the hell am I supposed to log in |
| 07:30.12 | Tem | because you touch yourself at night |
| 07:30.22 | Shirik | it's probably true T_T |
| 07:30.30 | Tem | Shirik, what distro? |
| 07:30.43 | Shirik | suse actually, I've installed this several times before, first time I've ever had trouble |
| 07:31.04 | Tem | tried suse once...didn't much care for it |
| 07:31.18 | Tem | I think really, I just don't like KDE |
| 07:31.27 | Shirik | oh I like it |
| 07:32.19 | Tem | I like how a full ubuntu install only takes 20 minutes |
| 07:32.51 | Shirik | I almost installed ubuntu |
| 07:32.59 | Shirik | and I'll probably install Debian later since Iriel recommended it |
| 07:33.23 | Tem | $Ubuntu \approx Debian$ |
| 07:35.10 | Neuro_Medivh | this sums up my opinion of Linux: http://www.deadtroll.com/video/ossuckscable.html |
| 07:35.38 | Shirik | that link crashed firefox |
| 07:36.04 | Neuro_Medivh | I just watched it on firefox |
| 07:36.06 | Tem | I _hate_ quicktime |
| 07:36.33 | Tem | also, oh fuck. I'm running low on ink and I still have 40ish pages to pring |
| 07:36.38 | Tem | s/pring/print/ |
| 07:38.30 | bleetah | Neuro_Medivh: I agree with the 'every OS sucks' sentiment. I also agree with the 'Anyone encoding video in a proprietary format needs a good beating' (ie, it won't play here in the 'default' environment) |
| 07:39.15 | Xenok | my AV scan is only 10086 files in.. and it apears stuck there |
| 07:40.04 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 07:40.44 | Xenok | YAY it just scaned 2 files since last update >_< |
| 07:41.19 | Tem | perhaps they were.. big files? |
| 07:41.39 | Tem | patch.mpq, for example |
| 07:41.49 | Xenok | gooood point |
| 07:42.21 | Xenok | and acullay that was the file it just scaned lol .. out of alll the files on my comp you chose the one it just scaned |
| 07:42.38 | Elkano | Tem, stop using mind tricks |
| 07:43.13 | Tem | sometimes, it happens without thinking |
| 07:43.46 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Elkano_2nd (i=Elkano@client0054.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 07:45.09 | Xenok | so if WoW recognizes the trojen as Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Agent.uj would that be what it is named on my comp? |
| 07:45.29 | Shirik | I guarantee you it matches the regular expression .+ |
| 07:45.41 | Xenok | .+ ? |
| 07:45.45 | Shirik | .+ |
| 07:45.51 | Shirik | .+? would work too actually |
| 07:45.55 | Shirik | up to you |
| 07:45.56 | Xenok | .+ = ? |
| 07:46.00 | nymbia | lol |
| 07:46.08 | Shirik | actually .+=? would work as well |
| 07:46.14 | Xenok | wtf is .+ |
| 07:46.17 | nymbia | .* imo |
| 07:46.18 | bleetah | http://www.sophos.com/security/analyses/trojruindlf.html |
| 07:46.24 | Shirik | it's a regular expression |
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| 07:46.35 | Shirik | it means match any character, from 1 to infinite times |
| 07:46.45 | Xenok | eep |
| 07:47.00 | bleetah | "When first run the application copies itself to <System>\<basename>.exe, where <basename> consists of five randomly selected letters." |
| 07:47.08 | bleetah | so, in answer to your question, no. |
| 07:47.16 | Xenok | ahh |
| 07:47.24 | Shirik | delete every file in your system directory that ends in .exe |
| 07:47.41 | Zicon | shirik: You are an evil bastard. |
| 07:47.44 | Zicon | shirik: I think I like you. |
| 07:47.46 | Shirik | hehehe I know ^^ |
| 07:47.48 | Xenok | hold on |
| 07:47.56 | Neuro_Medivh | just to be sure, delete every .exe on your system |
| 07:48.12 | Shirik | yes, like we said it's a mutating virus so it might have gotten smart and put it in another folder |
| 07:48.25 | Xenok | how would I find .. every .exe |
| 07:48.33 | Neuro_Medivh | Xenok, please don't do that |
| 07:48.36 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:48.43 | Neuro_Medivh | they're being facetious |
| 07:48.46 | Xenok | hope so |
| 07:48.59 | Shirik | this is why I stay up so late |
| 07:49.04 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm fairly sure that you are simply seeing a false positive |
| 07:49.38 | Neuro_Medivh | as I tell people, format C: gets rid of all spyware |
| 07:49.38 | Xenok | umm theres NO files in my system dirc |
| 07:49.47 | Neuro_Medivh | yes there are =) |
| 07:50.23 | Shirik | that's probably because they're hidden and you aren't showing them |
| 07:50.23 | Xenok | then how woudl I show them? |
| 07:50.23 | Shirik | otherwise you wouldn't have TCP/IP installed, and you wouldn't be here |
| 07:50.23 | Shirik | um |
| 07:50.24 | Shirik | I think it's a better idea you don' |
| 07:50.24 | Shirik | don't* |
| 07:50.24 | Neuro_Medivh | the question is, SHOULD you show them |
| 07:50.24 | Xenok | why wouldn't I want to? |
| 07:50.28 | Shirik | what do you intend to do? |
| 07:50.35 | Xenok | manulay delete the file |
| 07:50.38 | Shirik | uh |
| 07:50.40 | Shirik | good luck |
| 07:50.42 | Xenok | hehe |
| 07:50.43 | Shirik | there's probably about 3000 files in there |
| 07:50.52 | Shirik | each with a name that to anyone other than microsoft looks random |
| 07:50.56 | Neuro_Medivh | because, and please don't take offense to this, if you're not computer savvy enough to figure out how to view hidden files, you're not savvy enough to properly jack with those files |
| 07:51.04 | Shirik | like where the hell did they come up with the name "mstsc.exe" |
| 07:51.17 | Shirik | It's remote desktop.... I don't see an R OR a D in there |
| 07:51.37 | Neuro_Medivh | micro soft terminal something something |
| 07:51.43 | Shirik | client? |
| 07:51.46 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:51.49 | Shirik | microsoft terminal services client |
| 07:51.53 | Shirik | that's it |
| 07:51.54 | Neuro_Medivh | that's it |
| 07:52.28 | Neuro_Medivh | Xenok, your best friend in protecting your system is Hijackthis |
| 07:52.34 | Shirik | agreed. |
| 07:52.38 | Xenok | ... |
| 07:52.41 | Shirik | but.... no offense again but |
| 07:52.44 | Shirik | I don't think he can read that |
| 07:52.58 | Xenok | what happens if i delete al of the files in system32? |
| 07:53.02 | Shirik | um |
| 07:53.05 | Shirik | I laugh at you |
| 07:53.09 | bleetah | system go byebye |
| 07:53.09 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:53.24 | Xenok | then.. I won't |
| 07:53.30 | Shirik | good call |
| 07:53.36 | Neuro_Medivh | well, first, your computer will tell you "Sorry, you can't delete those, we're using them." |
| 07:53.52 | Shirik | and then you'll find out later that it actually did delete those |
| 07:53.57 | Shirik | well some of them |
| 07:54.08 | Neuro_Medivh | then, the few that DO get deleted will prove to be neccessary for booting |
| 07:54.24 | Shirik | and then you'll find out that you're just like the other 90% of windows users that have no idea where their windows CD is (or what it is) |
| 07:54.32 | Xenok | theres a file called aaaamon.dll |
| 07:54.34 | Shirik | and then you get an upgrade to windows vista! |
| 07:54.42 | bleetah | and then you'll be wonder 'why the hell didn't I listen to those guys' |
| 07:55.23 | Neuro_Medivh | Xenok, that file is a valid part of windows |
| 07:55.27 | Xenok | k |
| 07:56.18 | Shirik | more like an integral part of windows |
| 07:56.27 | Shirik | along with just about everything else in your system32 directory |
| 07:56.30 | Neuro_Medivh | what you should make a habit of doing is pulling up task manager (ctrl-alt-del) and view processes |
| 07:56.34 | Tem | ctfmon is the devil |
| 07:56.40 | Shirik | ctrl-alt-del is evil |
| 07:56.45 | Shirik | ctrl+shift+esc ftw |
| 07:56.54 | Tem | indeed |
| 07:56.58 | Neuro_Medivh | after a while, you'll recognize which are supposed to be there, and which are not |
| 07:57.02 | Xenok | Neru.. what would I look for? |
| 07:57.25 | Neuro_Medivh | well, depends on if you think your system is clean right now |
| 07:57.27 | Shirik | well, no offense, but considering it doesn't seem you have a knack for recognizing windows processes |
| 07:57.33 | Shirik | it could be a bit difficult |
| 07:57.35 | Xenok | shhh |
| 07:57.50 | Shirik | you could try something like hitting "end process" on each one |
| 07:57.54 | Neuro_Medivh | as shirik says, with time, you'll recognize which processes should be there, and which shouldn't |
| 07:57.58 | Xenok | and I do do ctrlaltdel alot.. but ive never sen script-fu.exe |
| 07:57.58 | Neuro_Medivh | bad Shirik! |
| 07:58.01 | Shirik | if your system crashes, it's probably a good idea not to delete it |
| 07:58.03 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:58.04 | Xenok | Shirik I did |
| 07:58.06 | Xenok | before |
| 07:58.09 | Xenok | and it crashed |
| 07:58.59 | Neuro_Medivh | Xenok, do you have GIMP installed? |
| 07:59.03 | Xenok | Yes |
| 07:59.09 | Neuro_Medivh | that's what script-fu is part of |
| 07:59.20 | Xenok | I thought I saw it before |
| 07:59.24 | Xenok | somewhere before( |
| 08:00.04 | Neuro_Medivh | you wanna look for processes that seem like random letters, like kvsdjh0] |
| 08:00.39 | Xenok | how about this wdfmgr.exe? |
| 08:00.44 | Neuro_Medivh | that's windows |
| 08:00.47 | Xenok | hmm |
| 08:00.58 | Neuro_Medivh | specifically, windows df manager |
| 08:01.08 | Neuro_Medivh | don't recall what df means, download file I think |
| 08:01.17 | Shirik | driver foundation ;) |
| 08:01.21 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, thx |
| 08:01.37 | Neuro_Medivh | any process you suspect, before you do anything, do a google on it |
| 08:01.39 | Xenok | It has svchost.exe on here 4 times |
| 08:01.43 | Neuro_Medivh | that's fine |
| 08:01.45 | Shirik | expect that |
| 08:01.46 | Xenok | kk |
| 08:01.52 | Neuro_Medivh | however |
| 08:02.04 | Neuro_Medivh | anything like svch0st.exe is BAD |
| 08:02.24 | Neuro_Medivh | because it's deliberately trying to look like a legit process |
| 08:02.28 | Xenok | right |
| 08:02.33 | Xenok | I thought so |
| 08:02.57 | Neuro_Medivh | after a while, you'll recognize what should be there and what shouldn't |
| 08:03.11 | Neuro_Medivh | like, I have something called KHALMNPR.exe running |
| 08:03.28 | Tem | I totally just found the secret to getting the staple all the way through |
| 08:03.29 | Neuro_Medivh | which turns out to be the driver for my Logitech MX518 mouse =) |
| 08:03.30 | Tem | every time |
| 08:03.35 | Tem | (within reason) |
| 08:03.36 | Neuro_Medivh | gratz! |
| 08:03.36 | Shirik | push harder? |
| 08:03.45 | Neuro_Medivh | less paper? |
| 08:03.50 | Neuro_Medivh | bigger staples? |
| 08:03.55 | Neuro_Medivh | nail gun? |
| 08:03.56 | Xenok | how would I show where its being run from? |
| 08:04.02 | Tem | with your left hand, hold the stapler flush with the stack |
| 08:04.08 | Tem | (on a table or something) |
| 08:04.20 | Shirik | put your right hand on top and then jump? |
| 08:04.23 | bleetah | I thought I posted Sophos' details on that a while back.. /shrug |
| 08:04.35 | Xenok | lol |
| 08:04.48 | Tem | with your right hand, slam your fist down on the stapler like you just died for the 16th time in a row on a bullshit level in mario |
| 08:04.59 | Shirik | haha |
| 08:05.04 | Shirik | onto your left hand? |
| 08:05.09 | Xenok | XD |
| 08:05.17 | Tem | onto the stapler, silly |
| 08:05.25 | Shirik | but your left hand is on the stapler? |
| 08:05.28 | Neuro_Medivh | so, you staple your hand? |
| 08:05.29 | Tem | (the real key is holding the stapler on the paper with your left) |
| 08:05.30 | Shirik | holding it flush with the stack? |
| 08:05.56 | Tem | yeah |
| 08:06.06 | Neuro_Medivh | so how to I get the staple out of my left hand? |
| 08:06.15 | Shirik | amputation |
| 08:06.18 | Tem | l2putyourlefthandsomewhereelse |
| 08:06.25 | Shirik | woah |
| 08:06.32 | Shirik | thought this was supposed to be pg13 |
| 08:06.48 | Tem | ? |
| 08:06.55 | Shirik | nm >< |
| 08:07.04 | Tem | are you even more dirty than me? |
| 08:07.05 | Neuro_Medivh | Sorry, Shirik, that would feel like cheating |
| 08:07.40 | Xenok | g2g |
| 08:08.05 | Shadowed | "If we can put a man on the moon, we can get somebodys age on a website", I've lost faith in people now :( |
| 08:08.25 | Shirik | we haven't put a man on the moon |
| 08:08.27 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, Shirik, you almost got that guy to nuke his windows directory =) |
| 08:08.36 | Shirik | I know I kinda feel bad now >< |
| 08:08.49 | Shadowed | What'd you do :p |
| 08:08.49 | Tem | I think it would have been funny |
| 08:08.58 | Tem | but that's just me |
| 08:09.07 | Neuro_Medivh | he thinks he's got a virus cause WoW told him so |
| 08:09.16 | Shadowed | I would have too |
| 08:09.21 | Shirik | I've actually never seen that thing report anything |
| 08:09.22 | Shadowed | which probably is bad |
| 08:09.24 | Neuro_Medivh | so Shirik told him to nuke his system directory |
| 08:09.29 | Shirik | no I didn't! |
| 08:09.44 | Shirik | I said, the virus has a random EXE filename in the system directory |
| 08:09.46 | Tem | then I pulled a jedi mind trick |
| 08:09.49 | Tem | it was fun |
| 08:09.51 | Shirik | so he should delete all his EXEs in that directory to be safe |
| 08:10.29 | Neuro_Medivh | there's a ton of valid .exes in there though |
| 08:10.34 | Shirik | (02:47:00) (bleetah) "When first run the application copies itself to <System>\<basename>.exe, where <basename> consists of five randomly selected letters." |
| 08:10.34 | Shirik | (02:47:08) (bleetah) so, in answer to your question, no. |
| 08:10.35 | Shirik | (02:47:16) (Xenok) ahh |
| 08:10.35 | Shirik | (02:47:22) (Shirik) delete every file in your system directory that ends in .exe |
| 08:10.40 | Shirik | yeah I kinda left that part out ^^ |
| 08:12.00 | Shirik | but |
| 08:12.08 | Neuro_Medivh | It was like watching someone ask how to perform surgery on himself |
| 08:12.12 | Shirik | Neuro_Medivh totally told him to delete all exes period |
| 08:12.23 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, true... I'm evil to the core |
| 08:12.37 | Shadowed | Neuro_Medivh: Very well? |
| 08:12.54 | Shirik | ok, it was like watching Dr. Zoidberg perform surgery on himself |
| 08:14.20 | Tem | ~emulate zoidberg |
| 08:14.41 | Shirik | ~zoidberg |
| 08:14.47 | Tem | :( |
| 08:14.47 | Shirik | :( |
| 08:14.52 | Tem | ~emulate bender |
| 08:14.53 | purl | Yeah, well I'm gonna build my own lunar space lander! With blackjack aaaaannd Hookers! Actually, forget the space lander, and the blackjack. Ahhhh forget the whole thing! |
| 08:15.03 | Tem | ~emulate fry |
| 08:15.06 | purl | Words. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears. |
| 08:15.19 | Tem | ~emulate stewie |
| 08:15.20 | purl | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
| 08:15.27 | Shirik | ~emulate Dr. Zoidberg |
| 08:15.42 | Shirik | ~emulate Zoidburg |
| 08:15.45 | Shirik | T_T |
| 08:16.03 | Neuro_Medivh | ~emulate doctor zoidberg |
| 08:16.25 | Tem | no dice :( |
| 08:16.36 | Tem | finally almost finished printing out these notes |
| 08:16.52 | Tem | never thought this open notes exam would be this much of a pita |
| 08:17.13 | Shirik | see that's why I like my microprocessors course |
| 08:17.21 | Shirik | open notes exam every time, but the entire book is a CD |
| 08:17.29 | Shirik | and we can use it :) |
| 08:17.30 | Shirik | no printing |
| 08:18.38 | Shirik | hmm |
| 08:18.45 | Shirik | actually now that I think about it, I think I have a test tomorrow |
| 08:21.17 | Tem | lol! |
| 08:21.18 | Tem | http://usetehsharingan.ytmnd.com/ |
| 08:22.08 | Tem | this is supposed to be mid-term week |
| 08:22.21 | Tem | but all I've got is this datastructures exam tomorrow |
| 08:22.25 | Tem | and it's open notes, open book |
| 08:22.42 | Tem | but you can't use a computer, so I had to print all the notes |
| 08:23.15 | Shirik | ow |
| 08:23.30 | Tem | half a semester's worth of notes... |
| 08:24.31 | Shirik | yey |
| 08:24.35 | Shirik | this time it asked me for the root password |
| 08:24.38 | Shirik | now I can actually log in |
| 08:25.05 | Tem | 96 pages |
| 08:25.16 | Shirik | ow... |
| 08:25.39 | Tem | on this thick paper, it's thicker than the texbook... |
| 08:28.26 | Shirik | brb ^^; |
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| 08:40.52 | Xenok | somethings wrong here :/ |
| 08:41.06 | Xenok | I scanned all of my system32 files.. no infections |
| 08:41.31 | Xenok | yet its stil here somwhere |
| 08:44.21 | Xenok | I also googled all the suspisious processes.. nothing is here .. but WoW says there is |
| 08:46.27 | nymbia | try scanning everything not just system32 |
| 08:46.58 | Xenok | I was |
| 08:47.04 | Xenok | but then I thoguht it was done |
| 08:47.15 | Xenok | and it still had no infections. after 1 hour of scanning |
| 08:47.43 | Xenok | but it wasn't ALL the way done |
| 08:48.12 | Xenok | well. im off to bed while this scans |
| 08:58.32 | SunTiger | tem use point 9 letter size, readable but damn small. |
| 08:58.46 | Tem | SunTiger, 2 things |
| 08:58.50 | Tem | 1) already printed |
| 08:59.04 | Tem | 2) pdf version of powerpoint presentations |
| 08:59.09 | SunTiger | ah |
| 08:59.52 | SunTiger | meh, its how i printed my walkthoughs for games and the documentation on quake c, when i was into modding quake but did not have internet at home. |
| 09:00.01 | Tem | yeah, I did the same thing back in the day |
| 09:00.54 | SunTiger | you should have seen the face of the clerck at the librarie with internet access when i printed stuff |
| 09:01.12 | Tem | hehe |
| 09:02.10 | Tem | tee hee |
| 09:02.10 | Tem | http://simpleinstructions.ytmnd.com/ |
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| 09:04.34 | Outlaw| | Internet that goes out randomly every 12 hours, how I hate you |
| 09:06.21 | Tem | I think I just peed myself |
| 09:06.24 | Tem | http://narutoisnotwrong.ytmnd.com/ |
| 09:08.15 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, good looping |
| 09:08.26 | Neuro_Medivh | most loops are horrible |
| 09:09.44 | Neuro_Medivh | example: http://piratelol.ytmnd.com/ |
| 09:11.46 | Tem | if the loop is done right, you shouldn't realize it's a loop at all until you've heard it 4+ times |
| 09:12.04 | Shadowed | It's a bit unsynced, but that could be due to IE7 and/or WoW |
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| 09:13.32 | Neuro_Medivh | like the badger song |
| 09:14.02 | Neuro_Medivh | www.badgerbadgerbadger.com |
| 09:14.59 | Shadowed | ~badger |
| 09:15.00 | purl | http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ |
| 09:15.17 | Neuro_Medivh | exactly |
| 09:15.52 | Neuro_Medivh | those guys also do Weebl and Bob, and Magical Trevor |
| 09:17.39 | Tem | everyone loves magical trevor... |
| 09:18.19 | Neuro_Medivh | =) |
| 09:23.03 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 09:23.19 | Shadowed | just spent like 5 minutes trying to get these bugs off my screen, just to realise they were in WoW not on my screen :( |
| 09:23.39 | Neuro_Medivh | sleep is your friend |
| 09:24.01 | Shadowed | After these 47 Magram's die |
| 09:24.52 | Shadowed | 42 actually |
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| 10:03.15 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 10:03.27 | Shadowed | if nameplates are called/created/updated in C code, wouldn't that mean it's basically impossible to taint them? |
| 10:03.38 | Shadowed | in a way that breaks the UI that is |
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| 10:39.34 | wereHamster | leveling is sooo nice.. as long as I stay alive. As soon as I start die, it get's boring :( |
| 10:53.17 | dieck | play a pala :) |
| 10:56.45 | wereHamster | how will that help? |
| 10:59.45 | dieck | they can't die |
| 11:00.23 | bleetah | so instead of being bored from dieing |
| 11:00.31 | bleetah | you'll be bored from bubble/hearth/cooldown |
| 11:01.34 | dieck | jepp |
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| 11:10.34 | Elessdy | i got my ubrs key~ YEAH |
| 11:10.57 | Corrodias | on to: the world dragons! >:F |
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| 11:32.22 | Corrodias | world dragons... |
| 11:32.29 | Corrodias | how many people were needed to kill them at level 60? |
| 11:33.01 | amro | the usual |
| 11:33.11 | Corrodias | that doesn't answer my question |
| 11:33.21 | [Ammo] | 20? |
| 11:33.31 | amro | 40\ |
| 11:33.36 | [Ammo] | not 40 |
| 11:33.44 | [Ammo] | we did them with 20 or so |
| 11:33.57 | Corrodias | and how many are needed at 70? |
| 11:34.20 | [Ammo] | 10? |
| 11:34.23 | [Ammo] | not sure |
| 11:34.27 | [Ammo] | depends if they scale :p |
| 11:34.34 | [Ammo] | but you don't need many at 70 |
| 11:34.56 | Corrodias | "Lvl 63 Enhancement Shammy // Lvl 62 Demon Lock // Lvl 62 Beastmaste hunter // Ole' Chronalis (61 gold elite)whent down faster then the last cupcake that Oprah ate" |
| 11:35.19 | ZealotOnAStick | At 60 with decently well geared players who know what the hell they're doing and have discipline, most of the world dragons can be done with about 15 people. |
| 11:35.21 | Corrodias | if it took 20 at level 60, it seems unlikely that 3 level 63's are enough |
| 11:35.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I've seen 2 70s duo Azuregos. Not sure about the greens. |
| 11:35.51 | ZealotOnAStick | It just . . . takes a while. |
| 11:36.52 | amro | azuregos is tougher than the others |
| 11:37.24 | amro | but his strat is straightforward and no adds |
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| 11:38.08 | Silviu- | We did Azuregos in 5 at 60 |
| 11:38.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | worst part about azuregos is his teleport lag |
| 11:38.34 | Silviu- | Long time yes but we did :) |
| 11:38.41 | Corrodias | it seems this may not be the same set of dragons as i'm thinking of |
| 11:39.12 | Corrodias | i was thinking of these outdoor bosses for the onyxia chain, but Azuregos doesn't appear to be one of them |
| 11:39.28 | Corrodias | well, not bosses, just mobs |
| 11:40.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh, just the drakes. |
| 11:40.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Could do those at 60 with 3 or 4. |
| 11:41.38 | Corrodias | what are azuregos and the others for? |
| 11:41.57 | ZealotOnAStick | loot, for the most part. |
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| 11:43.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | more or less |
| 11:43.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | just outdoor raid bosses |
| 11:43.19 | bleetah | stuff to do on a lazy sunday arvo |
| 11:43.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | couple quests associatd with them |
| 11:43.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha arvo never ceases to crack me up |
| 11:44.31 | bleetah | everything I doo... I doo it fooor youuuuuuu |
| 11:44.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | australian colloquialisms are hilarious, i love them |
| 11:44.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like they were all created by a bored drunk hobo one morning |
| 11:45.15 | bleetah | s/hobo/swagman/, and yes |
| 11:46.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | *mumble mumble*"the new word for afternoon is arvo, write that down mr. rat." |
| 11:47.53 | Corrodias | grr, being cat form in a raid would be simple and boring |
| 11:47.54 | bleetah | you just gotta remember, that many australian colloquialisms are driven by the same force of nature that produces our accent |
| 11:48.02 | Corrodias | "attack that guy. now attack that guy. now attack that guy." |
| 11:48.11 | bleetah | that being, stop the lips from moving as much as possible 'coz the flies get in |
| 11:48.34 | bleetah | so abbreviations for common multi-syllable words are common |
| 11:48.49 | bleetah | s/are common/are frequent/ |
| 11:49.59 | Corrodias | the very IDEA of being melee in a raid makes me want to respec full restoration |
| 11:50.30 | Corrodias | let the tree cleanse such filthy thoughts |
| 11:51.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not that bad, infact i enjoy it much more than casting |
| 11:51.42 | Corrodias | i'm pretty much horny for healing |
| 11:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | healing's too easy yet too hard at the same time |
| 11:52.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's too easy because you realize your limitations |
| 11:52.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's hard because those limitations are mostly unavoidable |
| 11:52.46 | Corrodias | well, i find it challenging and incredibly rewarding |
| 11:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never found it rewarding |
| 11:53.04 | Corrodias | damn bear >:o |
| 11:53.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | quite the opposite, it's always been incredibly thankless |
| 11:53.18 | Corrodias | all i have to say to you is "moo" |
| 11:53.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was victimized and blamed for faaar too much as a healer |
| 11:54.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | for stuff that obviously wasn't my fault |
| 11:54.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | now people are afraid to say stuff bad to me when i mess up a little here and there as a tank |
| 11:54.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | like breaking sheep, etc |
| 11:55.01 | bleetah | healers do seem to get it in the neck for the failings of the group as a whole. it's the whole "I'm dead, the healer must've fucked up" mentality. |
| 11:55.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | part of why i don't enjoy it |
| 11:55.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's hardcoded limitations, especially to druids |
| 11:55.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | slow heals or small heals, pick one |
| 11:55.58 | Corrodias | ah, well. i really enjoy it, and that's what matters when it comes to choosing what to do. |
| 11:56.03 | Corrodias | but our guild also needs tanks. i can't be both. >_< |
| 11:56.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | exactly |
| 11:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | just make up your mind before you run out of gold |
| 11:56.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've respec'd like 6 times since i've created my character, including free respecs, on live servers |
| 11:57.04 | Corrodias | then again, i don't want to be totally without solo combat ability. i like to do "cool stuff" on my main. |
| 11:57.17 | Corrodias | i don't know that moonkin is capable of any "cool stuff" |
| 11:57.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't be all in one as a druid |
| 11:57.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | we gotta min/max for one form at a time |
| 11:58.47 | Corrodias | i'd like to stay feral for the ability to solo things, i'd like to go restoration for effective and efficient healing, and i'd like to go balance/restoration as a comprimise between the two that isn't really satisfying to either urge |
| 12:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't have all of em |
| 12:01.00 | Corrodias | what to do what to do |
| 12:01.18 | bleetah | level more durids :-p |
| 12:01.20 | Corrodias | i don't suppose i could ask blizzard for another druid |
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| 12:01.34 | Corrodias | "hay guyz copy my character" |
| 12:01.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i could i'd do it in a heartbeat for 50 bucks if i could go pve-pvp :p |
| 12:09.22 | Corrodias | my guild is giving karazhan a test run tomorrow |
| 12:11.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to find a guild |
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| 12:13.25 | Corrodias | man, karazhan has a lot of bosses |
| 12:16.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | its ubrs for 70 |
| 12:16.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | well maybe more like all of brs or maybe zg |
| 12:19.51 | Corrodias | looks like 10 boss encounters according to ampwow |
| 12:19.58 | Corrodias | should be exciting, if i'm picked to go |
| 12:20.51 | Corrodias | although i don't expect we'd make it through more than a couple of them |
| 12:21.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Kara is a tad more complex than that. |
| 12:21.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Shade or Aran, Illhoof . . . the darn bone dragon I can't remember the name of at the moment. |
| 12:21.53 | subbawt | nightbane |
| 12:21.57 | ZealotOnAStick | And oh dear god, Romulo and Julianne. Major PITA. |
| 12:22.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes, thank you. |
| 12:22.11 | Corrodias | oh, those weren't mentioned by wowamp |
| 12:22.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Though in theory Nightbane will be a bit easier now. |
| 12:22.33 | Corrodias | nightbane and "romulo/julianne" aren't listed here |
| 12:22.42 | subbawt | i heard nightbane is harder |
| 12:22.44 | ZealotOnAStick | s/Shade or Aran/Shade of Aran/ |
| 12:22.48 | subbawt | unless your raid is melee heavy |
| 12:22.54 | Corrodias | http://www.ampwow.com/wow/viewBCStrats/Karazhan.php |
| 12:24.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Romulo and Julianne are one of the 3 possible random Opera House encounters. |
| 12:24.09 | ZealotOnAStick | And by far the most difficult. |
| 12:24.24 | Corrodias | opera house... i take it the "wizard of oz" is another one? |
| 12:24.30 | subbawt | we never had much difficulty with them |
| 12:24.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes, and the Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf. |
| 12:27.19 | Corrodias | well, i should get to bed, now. i think it starts in 12 and a half hours. 'ni |
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| 12:52.31 | Nom- | bleh...how do you do the macro stuff so that it shows you the icon of the spell it's going to case... |
| 12:52.36 | Nom- | *cast |
| 12:52.51 | Nom- | I've made one to /use my mount if i'm [flyable] and /cast Summon Charger if i'm not |
| 12:58.13 | zenzelezz | think you can do it with a conditional #show in 2.1.0 |
| 12:58.59 | Nom- | That's what I thought, but I can't seem to get it happening :/ |
| 12:59.08 | [dRaCo] | 2.1.0 isn't out yet. |
| 12:59.42 | zenzelezz | correct, we're on 2.0.10... I made the same mistake yesterday |
| 13:00.00 | Nom- | blah, so you can't do it with 2.0.10 ? |
| 13:00.18 | [dRaCo] | but the line should look like # show [flyable] <mount; Summon Charger |
| 13:00.29 | [dRaCo] | afaik impossible atm |
| 13:01.14 | [dRaCo] | s/<mount/<mount>/ |
| 13:02.04 | HolySheepy | N> a very simple addons that's not using any libs :/ |
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| 13:14.12 | Corrodias | Nom-: just using #show without any parameters is supposed to show the spell it's going to cast |
| 13:14.19 | Corrodias | however, i don't know how robust the detection is |
| 13:18.52 | Corrodias | thinking of going back to my old balance/restoration build. it never felt like ti had a lot of killing power, but i did "okay". i could solo quests that were intended to be done solo. |
| 13:19.03 | Corrodias | and it would really boost my healing to the point of... well, viability |
| 13:19.47 | Corrodias | but i need to improve my balance gear now |
| 13:21.52 | Corrodias | this guy has a helm enchantment... where would he get + spell damage enchantment on a helm? |
| 13:22.19 | subbawt | sha'tar revered |
| 13:22.28 | subbawt | is 22 spell damage and ~14 spell hit |
| 13:22.46 | Corrodias | he's got a lot of enchantments... |
| 13:22.54 | Corrodias | and this staff i can't get because i can never get in on the good runs |
| 13:23.23 | Corrodias | nah, that's a world drop, i'm just dramatizing |
| 13:24.05 | JoshBorke | subbawt: here's my healing gear: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Dagh |
| 13:24.13 | JoshBorke | tell me what to upgrade :-D |
| 13:24.27 | Corrodias | wish i had the ceremonial dagger |
| 13:24.30 | subbawt | armory is acting weird for me |
| 13:24.39 | JoshBorke | i had problems in firefox last night |
| 13:24.44 | Corrodias | but it's nigh unto impossible to get together enough people to do those hard group quests in shadowmoon on my realm |
| 13:24.46 | JoshBorke | had to open it in IE7 to get the tooltips |
| 13:25.07 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: i run with a prot warrior and a tree druid pretty much all the time |
| 13:25.25 | JoshBorke | which means we can pretty much 3-man anything |
| 13:25.28 | Corrodias | i can't give up my ability to do anything solo and go full tree. i just can't. >:o |
| 13:25.44 | JoshBorke | the tree druid and prot warrior don't do anything solo...ever |
| 13:26.11 | Corrodias | yeah, i can't live like that. i'm totally a soloing kind of guy, which works well on my realm with how hard it is to get groups |
| 13:26.35 | subbawt | you need the boots from shattered halls, a better necklace (there's a good one from a blade's edge questline i think) |
| 13:26.39 | Gngsk | question about druids, does the hot effect of regrowth get a bonus on crits? |
| 13:26.46 | Corrodias | it does not |
| 13:26.51 | Gngsk | k, thx |
| 13:26.52 | JoshBorke | yea, the blade's edge questline i got the DPS neck =/ |
| 13:27.03 | Gngsk | just dinged 55 on my druid |
| 13:27.09 | JoshBorke | grats |
| 13:27.21 | Gngsk | thx :D |
| 13:27.39 | subbawt | DM trinket is a little dated |
| 13:27.53 | subbawt | get lower city prayer book/scarab of the infinite cycle/bangle of endless blessings |
| 13:28.41 | Gngsk | bangle is hot for druids |
| 13:29.03 | Corrodias | these guys want 400g for the Bringer of Death on my realm. ow. |
| 13:29.10 | subbawt | i did botanicas until i got exalted with sha'tar |
| 13:29.13 | subbawt | and never saw bangle drop |
| 13:29.17 | Gngsk | :\ |
| 13:29.21 | Gngsk | only killed warp once and it dropped, heh |
| 13:29.30 | subbawt | the day i hit 70 i found a bringer of death |
| 13:29.32 | Gngsk | course I was on my rogue |
| 13:29.33 | subbawt | and i sold it for 700 gold |
| 13:29.33 | JoshBorke | yea, you know what sucks about those 3 trinkets? |
| 13:29.36 | Gngsk | luckily we had a druid |
| 13:29.44 | JoshBorke | i loathe shadowlabs and BM :-P |
| 13:29.56 | JoshBorke | bot is fun though |
| 13:30.04 | subbawt | well if you aren't revered with lower city |
| 13:30.13 | subbawt | then you might as well run the place |
| 13:30.17 | JoshBorke | yea, i gotta suck it up and run it |
| 13:30.27 | Corrodias | i'd LOVE to run the mechanaar or botanica |
| 13:30.38 | JoshBorke | my second run of slabs wasn't too bad. took us 2.5 hours though |
| 13:30.39 | subbawt | you can buy/wear two prayer books if you want to, too |
| 13:30.45 | Corrodias | but our guild has this problem with either being too small or just having bad luck getting groups together |
| 13:31.25 | subbawt | i hate when guildies ask me to do instances now |
| 13:31.38 | subbawt | i pretty much just want to run heroics at this point, and i don't even care to run them that much |
| 13:32.20 | subbawt | black morass is the worst though |
| 13:32.27 | subbawt | i farmed that place for like 6 hours one day |
| 13:32.38 | Corrodias | i'd pretty much be happy to get into a party for -anything- at this point |
| 13:33.15 | subbawt | i did a lot of pugs while all my guildies who are asking for help now were too lazy to level :P |
| 13:33.55 | Corrodias | i did a lot of pugs while my guildies who are screwing around now were too busy powerlevelling to help anyone else |
| 13:33.56 | JoshBorke | subbawt: choker of fluid thought as my neckpiece? |
| 13:34.44 | subbawt | that neck is okay |
| 13:34.52 | subbawt | i still use my necklace from c'thun |
| 13:34.58 | subbawt | surely there's a blue that is better |
| 13:35.57 | Corrodias | i feel so pathetic. i never have good gear. |
| 13:36.07 | [dRaCo] | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31691 <-- pretty cool, if you ask me |
| 13:36.10 | Corrodias | whine & emo |
| 13:36.26 | Corrodias | that's the one i'm using for my healing set |
| 13:37.03 | [dRaCo] | dont complain, then :þ |
| 13:37.03 | Corrodias | what i'm not very good at is locating good items and farming instances until i get them, but that's partly because of not having groups available |
| 13:37.23 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: it just takes time, especially if you have trouble getting a group together |
| 13:37.33 | Corrodias | the other guy i was talking about was able to get his stuff because he's one of the 6 people who kept doing instances with each other |
| 13:38.20 | Corrodias | a few of us were just a bit bitter about that |
| 13:42.02 | [dRaCo] | start your own group... not that easy, I know, but worth the trouble |
| 13:42.28 | Corrodias | in-guild groups are just too difficult, and i don't know how the hell i can find puggers in this post-lfg era |
| 13:42.44 | subbawt | i use the lfg system |
| 13:42.53 | Corrodias | ours is generally empty |
| 13:42.54 | [dRaCo] | I don't, randoms suck -.-" |
| 13:42.56 | subbawt | if i want to run a non-heroic |
| 13:43.17 | Corrodias | does the blizzard lfg interface not distinguish between heroic and not? |
| 13:43.25 | zenzelezz | one thing I actually dislike a bit about being a tank; guildies keep asking me to join instance, but I can only do so many a day :-| |
| 13:43.25 | subbawt | it does. |
| 13:43.41 | Corrodias | i must go to bed now. really must. bye |
| 13:43.50 | [dRaCo] | You're a priest, aren't you, Corrodias? |
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| 13:44.01 | [dRaCo] | Just get a tank and you're half set. |
| 13:44.16 | [dRaCo] | DDs are easy to find on most servers |
| 13:45.10 | [dRaCo] | and with a good tank most instances are easy, too... force a friend to roll a tank ^^" |
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| 14:28.47 | wereHamster | wtf?? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html is not up to date with what's in-game? |
| 14:29.02 | wereHamster | there's no improved battleshout aymore |
| 14:29.34 | zenzelezz | there is, just a new name |
| 14:29.56 | zenzelezz | Commanding Presence, which increases both BS and CS |
| 14:30.58 | zenzelezz | think I read you wrong, but a bit late for that now |
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| 15:26.10 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 15:26.16 | Nom- | did they add the flyable condition in 2.0.10 / |
| 15:26.17 | Nom- | ? |
| 15:26.25 | Shirik | no, 2.1.0 |
| 15:26.48 | Shirik | why, is it working? |
| 15:26.49 | zenzelezz | I can't remember any script changes being mentioned in 2.0.10 |
| 15:27.01 | Nom- | crap, no it's not |
| 15:27.06 | Shirik | =P |
| 15:27.09 | Shirik | yeah, it's 2.1.0 |
| 15:27.10 | Nom- | damnit |
| 15:27.16 | Shirik | along with all the other fun stuff |
| 15:27.17 | Nom- | so you can't do the use the flying mount any more ? |
| 15:27.20 | Nom- | or yet rather |
| 15:27.24 | Shirik | sure you can |
| 15:27.40 | Shirik | do a /use <flying mount> /stopcasting /userandom <whatever ground mounts you have> |
| 15:28.33 | Nom- | well for me it's /use <flying mount> /stopcasting /cast Summon Charger |
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| 15:29.16 | Nom- | except no /stopcasting |
| 15:29.18 | Shirik | for me it's just /use White Ram |
| 15:29.20 | Nom- | and i get errors :( |
| 15:29.32 | Shirik | because I don't have an epic mount, much less a flying mount |
| 15:29.34 | Shirik | sad isn't it :( |
| 15:29.40 | Nom- | Yes, it is... |
| 15:29.43 | Nom- | What level are you? |
| 15:29.46 | Shirik | um |
| 15:29.50 | Shirik | 70? |
| 15:30.01 | Shirik | I don't play at all >< |
| 15:30.06 | Shirik | I program whenever I'm in wow |
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| 15:39.58 | leethal | not having flying mount at 70 is pretty impressing |
| 15:40.08 | leethal | how did you manage to not get 1500g from questing? |
| 15:41.10 | Nom- | cool macro works |
| 15:41.28 | Nom- | i get errors, but it'll use the correct mount |
| 15:41.37 | Shirik | yeah it will give you errors |
| 15:41.57 | Shirik | you could actually put a /script UIErrorsFrame:Clear() right after the /stopcasting |
| 15:42.02 | Shirik | and it should get rid of the error for you |
| 15:43.09 | Shirik | leethal: I wasted it on jewelcrafting |
| 15:43.25 | Shirik | And I take pride in the fact that it's not just that I don't have a flying mount |
| 15:43.32 | Shirik | I don't have an epic mount either |
| 15:48.32 | wereHamster | do you have at least one mount or are you a druid use the travelform? :P |
| 15:50.47 | sysrage | take pride in not being able to even see some of the content? |
| 15:51.38 | wereHamster | btw, where can I learn first aid >300? |
| 15:51.38 | dieck | even one of my mules has an epic mount :) |
| 15:51.38 | dieck | wereHamster: horde or alliance? |
| 15:51.41 | wereHamster | alliance |
| 15:52.33 | dieck | Temple of Telhamat |
| 15:52.38 | sysrage | hamster: that town in hellfire with the tower.. brain is blank and can't remember the name |
| 15:52.44 | dieck | there is a vendor for a book |
| 15:52.48 | sysrage | oh. thought that town was neutral |
| 15:54.26 | dieck | hm, afaik the Temple is an alliance only quest hub? |
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| 16:02.34 | ZealotOnAStick | It is. Falcon Watch is the Horde equivalent. |
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| 16:05.34 | dieck | ah, I remember that. Got a good beating when I first walked in :) |
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| 16:18.01 | wereHamster | dieck, thanks, got it :) |
| 16:31.55 | leethal | I want dual wielding ranged with hunters |
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| 16:56.17 | Antiarc|Work | leethal: Including the 24% miss rate? ;) |
| 16:56.22 | leethal | aw |
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| 17:48.59 | TC_Working | anyone at the PMA? |
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| 18:51.46 | TC_Working | ~poke channel |
| 18:51.47 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind channel, pokes channel repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:57.15 | sysrage | waka waka waka waka |
| 19:01.00 | channel | pong |
| 19:01.04 | TC_Working | does that mean your following Miyamoto's Keynote speach? |
| 19:01.24 | TC_Working | ~sigh cogwheel|work |
| 19:01.25 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "cogwheel|work!" |
| 19:02.42 | sysrage | haste: jokes on you! i ate the pellet so you just got owned |
| 19:04.24 | sysrage | guy i work with is trying to tell me waka waka isn't pac-man |
| 19:07.11 | haste | My atari says it's pac-man |
| 19:07.13 | TC_Working | but thats the same noise the brown guys in mario would make |
| 19:40.15 | rjaym | i'm pretty sure i already know the answer to this question, but is it possible to increase the range at which nameplates appear? |
| 19:53.37 | Shadowed | nope |
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| 20:50.49 | Xenok | hmm im beginning to think that WoW doesn't really have a trojen |
| 20:51.11 | Xenok | i scanned ALLLL of my comp.. and NO infected files yet WoW says that theres a trojen somwhere |
| 20:51.39 | sysrage | trojan man! |
| 20:52.09 | Xenok | s/trojen/trojan/ |
| 20:54.11 | Xenok | so like wtf? |
| 20:54.38 | wereHamster | Xenok, isn't warden the trojan? |
| 20:54.49 | Xenok | hmm? |
| 20:55.00 | TC_Working | from WoW's point of view, yes |
| 20:55.11 | Xenok | what do you mean? |
| 20:55.13 | wereHamster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Warden_(software) |
| 20:55.13 | TC_Working | or any other interactive 3rd party program |
| 20:55.32 | TC_Working | it's not looking for things that affect your system, it's looking for things that affect WoW |
| 20:55.44 | Xenok | but I don't have anything that effects wow ;/ |
| 20:55.48 | Xenok | :/ |
| 20:56.30 | Shadowed | It would be fairly odd if WoW was saying Warden was a trojan anyway |
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| 20:57.51 | Xenok | I see ... but why would it say its the trojan? |
| 20:57.58 | bleetah | Xenok: I'm not convinced that your AV scanner itself isn't comprimised... unless, of course, while I was AFK you hooked your drive onto a clean system and performed a scan there. |
| 20:58.21 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 20:58.29 | TC_Working | meh, just format your HD and start all over |
| 20:58.30 | bleetah | I've missed the past 10 hours or so of scrollback, so dunno what other steps you may have taken |
| 20:58.40 | Xenok | I just logged on |
| 20:58.46 | Xenok | (back) on |
| 20:59.25 | Xenok | and... how would i hook my drive to a clean system? |
| 20:59.47 | bleetah | take the name of the trojan that the launcher is claiming, google for it.. read through the various descriptions for that trojan, look for the registry keys, try and find somewhere that has a standalone cleaner specifically designed for that torjan, etc. etc. |
| 20:59.50 | Xenok | Im afraid to network these comps.. cuz then the virus might spred to my dads |
| 21:00.11 | Xenok | and my dad has a WoW acount too >< |
| 21:00.38 | sysrage | you should hire pac-man |
| 21:00.42 | sysrage | waka waka waka waka |
| 21:00.46 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:02.01 | Xenok | "It is a Windows PE EXE file" huh? |
| 21:02.14 | Xenok | EXE I know .. but PE I don't |
| 21:02.55 | wereHamster | PE = windows executable file format |
| 21:03.09 | Xenok | ah |
| 21:03.20 | wereHamster | for *nix there are ELF and a.out |
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| 21:04.09 | wereHamster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Executable |
| 21:04.14 | Xenok | "Use Task Manager to terminate the Trojan process" I can't find it XD |
| 21:04.22 | Xenok | s/XD/></ |
| 21:05.02 | wereHamster | ... interesting: PE is a modified version of the Unix COFF. |
| 21:05.39 | bleetah | wereHamster: are you seeing more of these: "fixme:wgl:X11DRV_wglQueryPbufferARB unsupported WGL_PBUFFER_LOST_ARB (need glXSelectEvent/GLX_DAMAGED work)", either with WoW 2.0.10 or Wine 0.9.32? I don't seem to recall seeing quite as many as I've seen in the past few days since I updated WoW and/or Wine |
| 21:05.48 | bleetah | wereHamster: what? you expected something original??!! :-P |
| 21:06.40 | wereHamster | bleetah, you can ignore thsoe messages |
| 21:07.06 | bleetah | yar, I udnerstand they're ignorable, just that I'm seeing it more.. or at least, I think I am |
| 21:07.18 | wereHamster | I don't see any.. strange |
| 21:07.49 | bleetah | I'm still killin' stuff, so it don't really matter ;) |
| 21:08.42 | Xenok | theres a file in my C: drive named (and i ain't kidding): 39569bb696ae81cc7c35 |
| 21:09.29 | Xenok | but says it was created in november |
| 21:10.41 | JoshBorke | windows can do that sometimes |
| 21:11.04 | TC_Working | yea, thats the way the install folders for windows look |
| 21:11.51 | Xenok | the only thing IN the file is a text doc named: msxml4-KB927978-enu |
| 21:12.59 | bleetah | yea, folders like that are (typically) patches from Windows Update, or similar (eg, service packs) |
| 21:13.38 | bleetah | I'm sure if you serached their knowledge base for 927978 you'd find out all about it ;) |
| 21:13.48 | Xenok | yeah.. just figured out |
| 21:13.52 | Xenok | its clean hehe |
| 21:14.17 | wereHamster | Xenok, KB927978 == Knowledge Base 927978 |
| 21:14.27 | wereHamster | .. too late |
| 21:14.32 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:15.43 | Xenok | theres a text file named install59615 in my C: |
| 21:15.50 | Xenok | clean? |
| 21:15.56 | JoshBorke | Xenok: what's the issue? |
| 21:16.04 | Xenok | Wow says theres a trojan |
| 21:17.39 | JoshBorke | consistently? |
| 21:17.48 | Xenok | yes |
| 21:18.00 | JoshBorke | did you check all your running applications in taskmanager? |
| 21:18.28 | Xenok | yup.. googled ones I didn't know. and still. can't find it |
| 21:18.41 | JoshBorke | i'd contact blizzard |
| 21:18.56 | Xenok | I will eventually :P |
| 21:19.22 | Xenok | there a txt named CDFE googled it and gave me nothing on computers :/ |
| 21:20.18 | Xenok | well hello.. hold on |
| 21:20.42 | Xenok | hpfr3600 text file .. google says I need to look for hpfr3600.exe |
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| 21:26.37 | wereHamster | bleetah, maybe now WoW uses FBOs instead of pbuffers if it sees that FBOs are supported |
| 21:27.16 | wereHamster | GL_EXT_framebuffer_object |
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| 21:28.48 | Xenok | hold on.. you guys might want a look at this... |
| 21:29.07 | Xenok | oh wait... almost ready |
| 21:30.22 | Xenok | this is what I see right now: |
| 21:30.28 | Xenok | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/cortez1212/omg.jpg |
| 21:30.52 | Xenok | various names of the .exe that a website warned me about |
| 21:30.59 | Xenok | >< |
| 21:31.41 | wereHamster | IE4 Error Log - your computer must be old.. |
| 21:31.55 | Xenok | is that all those are? |
| 21:32.11 | Xenok | oh nvm |
| 21:32.15 | Xenok | and sorta it is |
| 21:32.18 | Elkano | first of all you should enable display of extentions |
| 21:32.41 | Xenok | umm how? |
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| 21:33.06 | Xenok | nvm |
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| 21:33.13 | Elkano | I think it's under tools - folder options |
| 21:33.21 | Xenok | yeah found it |
| 21:33.28 | Elkano | I'm not running an English windows |
| 21:33.55 | Xenok | they are .hi1 etc files |
| 21:33.55 | Elkano | and maybe turn on hidden files, too (though that wont safe you from really hidden ones) |
| 21:34.06 | Xenok | and bu1 |
| 21:34.22 | wereHamster | Elkano, does windows know two different types of hidden? |
| 21:34.52 | Elkano | well, if the function telling Windows that the file is there got hooked... |
| 21:35.08 | Xenok | theres a file calld PIF too |
| 21:35.10 | Xenok | folder |
| 21:35.17 | Xenok | but its empty |
| 21:35.48 | Xenok | says these were modified march last year |
| 21:36.12 | Xenok | we had the comp repair sometime between tehen |
| 21:37.53 | Elkano | dates could be faked |
| 21:38.13 | Xenok | yeah |
| 21:38.40 | Xenok | also.. several sites said to look for some HKLM in my regedit.. I see nothing |
| 21:38.47 | Xenok | no HKLM that is |
| 21:39.07 | leethal | windows is not amusing |
| 21:41.03 | Elkano | HKLM -> HKLocalMachine |
| 21:41.30 | Xenok | all mine ar HKEY's and always have been |
| 21:42.28 | Elkano | ok, it's HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE ^^' |
| 21:42.39 | Xenok | lol ok |
| 21:43.03 | Elkano | like HKCU for HKEY_CURRENT_USER |
| 21:43.10 | Xenok | ohhhh |
| 21:44.26 | Xenok | I did a search for hpfr3600 in my regedit. gave me 21 awsers.. |
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| 21:44.43 | Xenok | what do I do with them? |
| 21:44.43 | Shadowed | Anyone know for sure if you can still block/dodge/parry while casting healing spells? I'm fairly sure you can |
| 21:45.51 | leethal | wowwiki should know |
| 21:45.51 | Bejitt | i dont think so |
| 21:46.03 | Bejitt | i cast slam while tanking a boss once ... |
| 21:46.08 | Bejitt | dont ask why |
| 21:46.10 | leethal | Xenok: what exactly is the problem? |
| 21:46.11 | Bejitt | but i got owned |
| 21:46.20 | leethal | haha |
| 21:46.35 | wereHamster | Shadowed, I doubt you can parry while casting ;) |
| 21:47.17 | Xenok | Wow says tojan.. website says search my HKLM but I found hpfr3600 in my C: drive earlier.. googled it .. hpfr3600 = bad .. i search hpfr3600 in my regedit... gives me 21 different things... what do I do?! |
| 21:47.24 | Shadowed | You can't parry from behind, but you can due to a bug :p |
| 21:47.59 | Shadowed | I don't see anything that says you can't though on the wiki |
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| 21:48.14 | Tem | ~whaleslap cladhaire |
| 21:48.16 | purl | ACTION beats cladhaire upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:48.55 | Bejitt | haha "you cant block while drinking a potion" |
| 21:49.25 | Shadowed | wiki says that? |
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| 21:49.33 | Xenok | HELP!!! |
| 21:49.38 | leethal | how long are you drinking a potion? |
| 21:49.41 | leethal | Xenok: what's the problem? |
| 21:49.48 | Shadowed | Cherry flavored potion? |
| 21:49.52 | Xenok | Wow says tojan.. website says search my HKLM but I found hpfr3600 in my C: drive earlier.. googled it .. hpfr3600 = bad .. i search hpfr3600 in my regedit... gives me 21 different things... what do I do?! |
| 21:50.23 | leethal | "wow says trojan"? |
| 21:50.29 | Xenok | WoW |
| 21:50.51 | leethal | so, wow rings the dorbell, enter the room and says "trojan" out loud? |
| 21:51.01 | Xenok | NO TIME FOR JOKES!! |
| 21:51.06 | leethal | ehm, I'm not joking |
| 21:51.11 | leethal | I'm trying to make you tell me what the problem is |
| 21:51.14 | Xenok | omg |
| 21:51.19 | Xenok | just a sec |
| 21:51.35 | leethal | why omg? I'm not here to help you fixing your trojans |
| 21:52.39 | leethal | there are tons of free removal tools anyways |
| 21:52.40 | Xenok | but mine didn't work .. NO infected files it says |
| 21:52.40 | wereHamster | Xenok, reinstall windows. Usually ist faster than trying to clean it up. |
| 21:52.45 | Xenok | won't I loos EVERYTHING? |
| 21:52.57 | Xenok | leethal http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/cortez1212/eep.jpg |
| 21:53.04 | bleetah | only if you have poor backup procedures |
| 21:53.08 | wereHamster | do you have backups? or at least two partitions, one for progras and one for data? |
| 21:54.01 | wereHamster | it's always good to separate (private) data from applications |
| 21:54.30 | Xenok | I don't want my parents finding out >< |
| 21:54.34 | leethal | http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2003-011710-3138-99 |
| 21:55.14 | wereHamster | is that their computer? |
| 21:55.15 | leethal | more specifically: http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2003-011710-3138-99&tabid=3 |
| 21:55.15 | leethal | everything you need to know is listed there |
| 21:55.17 | Xenok | very low means theres stil something |
| 21:55.21 | Xenok | ty ill look |
| 21:55.22 | bleetah | Xenok: yesterday you said your mother uses that computer for banking. I'd suggest that not letting them know is not a good idea. Your inheritence may be being syphoned off now as we speak :-p |
| 21:55.37 | Xenok | shhhhh |
| 21:56.00 | bleetah | I can't believe that after all the solutions offered yesterday, we're still at this point /sigh |
| 21:56.11 | Xenok | none of them worked |
| 21:56.53 | wereHamster | did anyone suggest 'format c:' ?? |
| 21:56.59 | bleetah | wereHamster: yeah |
| 21:57.05 | Xenok | .... I don't know how :P |
| 21:57.10 | bleetah | as well as mounting the infected disk on another system, scanning it there |
| 21:57.16 | bleetah | 'live' cds with a scanner |
| 21:57.18 | bleetah | etc. etc. |
| 21:57.46 | bleetah | as well as various AV company description/removal pages |
| 21:58.41 | bleetah | I think that it's more a case of pebkac atm, than anything else |
| 22:00.25 | Corrodias | well well |
| 22:00.39 | Corrodias | malware |
| 22:00.49 | Corrodias | if it's really good, it can even hide itself in safe mode, but most can't |
| 22:02.04 | Corrodias | "Yeah, I almost always cringe when I run into another MMORPG addict in RL - kinda off topic, but it's like when people from regular servers make fun of people from RP servers - it's about the same as the AV club picking on the Chess club." |
| 22:03.13 | bleetah | wereHamster: there were also suggestions made yesterday to delete all the .exe's from system32 directory.. to which iirc the response was 'but it's showing no files in there? what do I do?' or similar |
| 22:03.27 | bleetah | sure, it was a joking suggestion... but.... ;-) |
| 22:08.20 | wereHamster | delete all the .exe's from system32 directory.. that's like 'rm -rf /usr/bin' (I once deleted /usr/lib - it was no fun :( ) |
| 22:09.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | except it usually won't let you :p |
| 22:09.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it tends to replace them unless you're in safe mode |
| 22:09.37 | wereHamster | unless you are r00t |
| 22:10.03 | wereHamster | ah.. windows, always trying to be smarter than you :P |
| 22:10.36 | bleetah | I did a 'find . -type f -exec chmod 400 {} \;' on a live server once, forgot I was root@/ ... oops |
| 22:11.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | windows is smarter than the majority of the computer-using public :x |
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| 22:22.55 | Kaso | ~FrameXml |
| 22:22.57 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 22:23.04 | Kaso | thanks purl |
| 22:23.15 | cogwheel|work | wdn.wowinterface.com too |
| 22:23.22 | Kaso | i need the images |
| 22:23.33 | cogwheel|work | ah |
| 22:24.01 | Kaso | well thats assuming i can find my batch converter script i wrote |
| 22:24.06 | Kaso | i forget where i put it |
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| 23:10.27 | Shadowed | Anyone have the link to Antiarc's page for the top 10 teams? |
| 23:10.43 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/results.html |
| 23:10.56 | Shadowed | thanks |
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| 23:31.28 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/guild_professions.php - test this one for me, please :D |
| 23:33.46 | zenzelezz | pretty cool |
| 23:34.15 | zenzelezz | would be nice if the page's table showed what profession each heading was for |
| 23:34.16 | Esamynn | seems to work nicely, what are the filters on it? |
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| 23:36.08 | Karrion | Antiarc|Work: nice, one suggestion would be to sort the list of people in the profession by skill by default |
| 23:36.59 | Antiarc|Work | Karrion Yeah, easy enough to do. |
| 23:37.15 | Antiarc|Work | The tabs on the side are for the profession |
| 23:37.25 | Antiarc|Work | Click a tab to see the character/skill list for that profession |
| 23:37.28 | zenzelezz | I know, but they all seem to be at the tab |
| 23:37.31 | zenzelezz | *the top |
| 23:37.41 | Esamynn | Antiarc|Work: what filters did you put on the list? |
| 23:37.47 | zenzelezz | if I was just browsing, I'd end up looking at a bunch and wondering "which skill is this?" |
| 23:38.35 | Antiarc|Work | Esamynn: Level 30+, and any character that shows as "needs refresh" in the armory won't (can't) show up. |
| 23:39.11 | Esamynn | yah, there are a LOT of characters missing from the list for my guild |
| 23:40.03 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. I was trying to optimize that. Maybe I broke it. |
| 23:40.07 | Antiarc|Work | I'll see if I can find anything. |
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| 23:41.44 | Antiarc|Work | Ahah, right. |
| 23:41.49 | Antiarc|Work | I'm only getting the first page. |
| 23:41.50 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.52 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:43.34 | Shadowed | You can still get basic UnitName/Level/Health information for focus right? |
| 23:43.48 | Shadowed | Debuff/Buff/ect |
| 23:43.53 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 23:44.01 | Esamynn | it's a full fledged unit reference afaik |
| 23:44.46 | Shadowed | Yeah, just wasn't sure if we had a specific restriction. wanted to see if i could highlight the nameplate of a focus |
| 23:44.47 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 23:45.36 | Esamynn | Antiarc|Work: let me know when you get that fix in, and I'll give it another go |
| 23:45.44 | Antiarc|Work | Testing my fix now. |
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| 23:47.52 | Antiarc|Work | Fixed. |
| 23:49.11 | Iriel|working | You even get events for focus |
| 23:51.07 | Esamynn | Antiarc|Work: heh, now the query takes a lot longer ;) |
| 23:51.16 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, it tends to do that when you add more data. :D |
| 23:52.38 | Esamynn | hmm, the class summary is broken though |
| 23:53.17 | Antiarc|Work | How so? |
| 23:54.01 | Esamynn | or maybe I mis-interprested what it's supposed to be a summary of? |
| 23:54.25 | Antiarc|Work | It's a listing of stats relevant to all classes in sortable tables. |
| 23:54.30 | Antiarc|Work | Basically a guildwide character comparison |
| 23:55.07 | Esamynn | yep, it's borked then, http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/guildstats_out/dragonblight--redemption-.html I haven't even HEARD of any of those characters |
| 23:55.43 | Esamynn | oh |
| 23:55.47 | Esamynn | I see what happened |
| 23:55.53 | Antiarc|Work | Did you get the wrong US/EU selector? |
| 23:56.38 | Esamynn | nope, it picked up the horde side guild of very similar name |
| 23:56.42 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah, oops |
| 23:56.48 | Esamynn | but the tradeskills one didn't do that |
| 23:57.40 | Esamynn | Antiarc|Work: the difference in the names here is the guild I want has a space on each end of the name |
| 23:57.57 | Antiarc|Work | Oh. I'm trimming names. |
| 23:57.58 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
| 23:58.07 | Antiarc|Work | I didn't realize that leading/trailing spaces were valid. |
| 23:58.24 | Esamynn | you're not trimming names for the tradeskills page though |
| 23:58.57 | Antiarc|Work | I am now :) |
| 23:59.05 | Antiarc|Work | I'm adding a secret "notrim" URL parameter |
| 23:59.12 | wereHamster | Esamynn, whose site is wow.tachyonsix.com? |
| 23:59.23 | Antiarc|Work | *raises hand* |
| 23:59.53 | wereHamster | If you want to contact me, ... it's there right on the frontpage -.- |
