| 00:00.21 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 00:00.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i might be just a bit crazy |
| 00:00.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but admitting to it is progress, no? |
| 00:01.01 | Mortius | It appears the only person who has ever figured out how to do the 3D model right isn't modding anymore. :-/ |
| 00:01.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out ADAPT |
| 00:01.37 | Mortius | thats not full body |
| 00:01.44 | Mortius | its cake to do the profile view |
| 00:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 00:02.03 | Mortius | full body on targets.. no so easy :( |
| 00:02.35 | Mortius | the default camera will work on about 60-70% of mobs. the other 30% is either too large, or too high or too low. |
| 00:03.25 | Mortius | however, it is possible to do, as model citizen mod did it. I'm just not advanced enough to be able to read the code in that mod hehe |
| 00:03.36 | Mortius | looks like greek to me. |
| 00:05.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | adapt does the default for some and full body for others |
| 00:05.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | like the old blood elf model |
| 00:05.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 00:12.00 | Mortius | I can do full body for self, party members, pets, etc.. just not for about 30% of mobs. For no particular reason either. |
| 00:12.13 | Mortius | Its like Blizzard just didn't set a default camera for some mobs. |
| 00:13.28 | Mortius | but they must of had some kind of call to get the proper camera scale and position, because it's doable without having to find those camera settings yourself. |
| 00:14.15 | Mortius | I just wrote the author to "Model Citizen". Asked as nicely as possible if he could tell me what the code would be. |
| 00:19.02 | Mortius | Is there some kind of (MobID)? |
| 00:21.35 | cladhaire | you can get the model name |
| 00:21.38 | cladhaire | thats all really |
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| 00:34.21 | Mortius | gotcha. I just went in and set using setmodel instead of setunit with the same results |
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| 01:08.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 01:08.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm dragging this group along through ZF |
| 01:08.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | on my 49 shaman |
| 01:08.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | top of every meter, again :X |
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| 01:41.23 | sioraiocht | hellooooooooo |
| 01:43.02 | Cairenn | echoechoecho |
| 01:43.36 | sioraiocht | LAMe |
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| 01:54.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing like being level 50 in the 50-59 bracket with top HKs and 3rd on dps :p |
| 01:54.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and 2nd on healing, hehe |
| 01:59.51 | sioraiocht | nothing like this room being EMPTY |
| 02:00.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | YOUR MOM DOES |
| 02:00.42 | sioraiocht | my mom is empty? |
| 02:00.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | THIS WHOLE COURT'S OUT OF ORDER |
| 02:24.28 | xlvii | what class mr_rabies2? |
| 02:24.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | shaman |
| 02:25.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was beating people in hellfire peninsula gear in my SM and ZF gear, with some pvp stuff thrown in |
| 02:25.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | people really freaking suck at wow :p |
| 02:26.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Cho%27gall&n=Seibar |
| 02:26.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's my gear |
| 02:26.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | guy at the beginining said "hay u should run some instances dood" |
| 02:29.01 | xlvii | lolol. |
| 02:52.00 | Lej | yar victory is mine |
| 02:52.04 | Lej | Lej is mine again |
| 02:53.39 | Cairenn | terrorist! |
| 02:56.36 | Industrial | got my two new addons wiki'd up. no tag/release yet, not sure how ill handle that. http://code.google.com/p/industrial-wow/wiki/zExperience |
| 02:56.40 | Industrial | oh and http://code.google.com/p/industrial-wow/wiki/zMail :D |
| 03:06.28 | Industrial | Lej: reg your nick |
| 03:08.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | night people, gotta get up early to keep a nice steady supply of penicillin in my blood stream |
| 03:09.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6 hours from now, heh |
| 03:09.30 | Industrial | :p |
| 03:10.37 | Lej | Industrial: I did :P |
| 03:47.02 | hyperChipmunk | sure thing; enjoy |
| 03:47.04 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
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| 05:24.30 | Tain | Anyone interested in a couple of the greatest video games of all time, gogamer.com has Fallout 1 and 2 (and Fallout Tactics, but that doesn't matter) for $14. |
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| 05:33.04 | Corrodias | hey, one of my old friends loved fallout tactics |
| 05:35.02 | Tain | There's nothing wrong with Fallout Tactics, other than it wasn't Fallout 1 or 2. |
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| 07:01.49 | Corrodias | somebody talk to me |
| 07:01.59 | Corrodias | entertain me please with entertaining stories of WoW |
| 07:08.57 | Cairenn | there once was a woman named Cairenn |
| 07:09.17 | Cairenn | she looked at the clock and realized that it was really really late, so she went to bed |
| 07:09.19 | Cairenn | the end |
| 07:09.26 | Corrodias | horrible |
| 07:09.31 | Cairenn | heh |
| 07:09.45 | Cairenn | sorry, but that's about where I'm at, at this point |
| 07:09.47 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 07:09.50 | Thunder_Child | needs to rhyme...thought rhyming Cairenn is kinda hard |
| 07:09.58 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn |
| 07:10.33 | Thrae | Boy am I lazy. I am in a lazy chair in replacement for my dying computer chair. |
| 07:11.28 | Thrae | I also need new glasses. This screen is further away and keeps going out of focus. |
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| 07:27.34 | Corrodias | aaahahaha: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=01292007 |
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| 07:34.35 | Corrodias | AnduinLothar! |
| 07:34.44 | AnduinLothar | where? |
| 07:34.50 | Corrodias | TELL ME A STORY |
| 07:34.57 | Corrodias | i desire entertainment and nobody will help |
| 07:35.17 | AnduinLothar | once upon a time there was a F.E.A.R. agent named General Karl |
| 07:35.30 | AnduinLothar | he wasn't really a General, he just liked to call himself that |
| 07:35.39 | AnduinLothar | really he didn't knwo what he was |
| 07:35.59 | AnduinLothar | he was alrways better than other people at reacting and killing people |
| 07:36.13 | AnduinLothar | it was kinda strange, but he was pretty used to it |
| 07:36.43 | AnduinLothar | the really strange part was how he could go into a kind of trance and eveyrone around him would start moving really slow |
| 07:36.55 | Corrodias | heard it >:o |
| 07:36.56 | AnduinLothar | it felt kind of liek running around with god mode enabled |
| 07:37.22 | AnduinLothar | oh,w ell you didn't specify an origonal story |
| 07:39.15 | Corrodias | it's at times like that i start downloading videos from warcraftmovies.com |
| 07:40.48 | Corrodias | spent 15 minutes downloading something that was amusing but only a couple of minutes long |
| 07:40.50 | Corrodias | i need more internet |
| 07:41.43 | Corrodias | i also check wowinterface and curse-gaming in vain for news about new addons |
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| 09:06.43 | Nom- | holy crap |
| 09:06.52 | Nom- | anyone got any suggestions for how to take down romulo and julianne ? |
| 09:07.34 | Corrodias | sorry, no |
| 09:07.36 | Corrodias | we can't get past the madien of virtue |
| 09:07.40 | Corrodias | maiden. |
| 09:07.57 | ZealotOnAStick | That fight bites ass. |
| 09:08.07 | Nom- | we got maiden |
| 09:08.09 | Corrodias | describe it to me |
| 09:08.11 | Nom- | that was easy actually |
| 09:08.34 | ZealotOnAStick | 2 warriors pretty much needed for R&J, as well as some other interrupts, pick your flavor. |
| 09:08.36 | Corrodias | we only got two tries at it due to time restricions and had fatal errors both times |
| 09:08.47 | Nom- | <-- tanking romulo |
| 09:08.55 | Corrodias | the first had the anti-magic-debuff people too far away from some people to remove Holy Fire |
| 09:09.05 | Corrodias | the second had a restoration druid pulling aggro right away in the fight and biting it |
| 09:09.13 | Nom- | healing isn't a problem...it's just the insane amount of damage |
| 09:09.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Maiden's easy. R&J is a bitch. |
| 09:09.26 | Corrodias | get better gear? i dunno |
| 09:10.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Gotta have someone dedicated to dispelling that dot/debuff from Julianne if it's not interrupted, and interrupt or spellsteal or devour her self-buff. |
| 09:10.39 | Nom- | we got pretty damn good gear imho |
| 09:10.42 | ZealotOnAStick | err, actually, I don't think that's interruptable, but it should be dispellable/purgable. |
| 09:11.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Rom's self buff also needs to come off pretty fast, or he does idiotic amounts of damage. |
| 09:11.40 | Nom- | yeah, we're killing that as quickly as possible |
| 09:11.42 | Cide | priests and mages |
| 09:11.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Final phase with both of them up, drop her down to ~12% or so, then him, then burn her down then him quickly. |
| 09:11.47 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.56 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.03 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.03 | Nom- | lol basically what we've been trying |
| 09:12.32 | Nom- | Both the MT and I have > 14k armor |
| 09:12.36 | ZealotOnAStick | It takes some practice, all there is to it IMO, execution needs to be really good. |
| 09:12.49 | Nom- | 480+ defense each, pretty decent block/dodge/parry |
| 09:13.11 | Corrodias | the druid gets more armor but lack of block and parry hurts |
| 09:13.21 | ZealotOnAStick | And every bit of interrupts you can get. Rogues are useful on Juli, not so much on Rom thanks to Backslash or whatever the heck that attack is. |
| 09:13.37 | Nom- | We downed Attuman, Maiden and Moroes on the first night |
| 09:13.39 | ZealotOnAStick | I really hate that fight. |
| 09:13.40 | Nom- | (Thursday) |
| 09:13.52 | Nom- | We've been wiping on Romulo and Julianne for 4.5 hours now :( |
| 09:14.00 | Corrodias | my guildmates got attuman without me, but we couldn't handle the other two |
| 09:14.25 | Nom- | having pally buffs is REALLY helping |
| 09:14.28 | Corrodias | gives that voice at the back of mind something to say, "you're holding them back!" |
| 09:14.37 | Corrodias | yeah, we have no paladins up there yet |
| 09:15.12 | ZealotOnAStick | tell 'em to stop slacking and get in gear, or recruit a couple. |
| 09:16.04 | ZealotOnAStick | They're ever so damn useful on certain fights. |
| 09:16.24 | Corrodias | it's a "casual raiding guild". people aren't accused of slacking if they don't powerlevel their paladins. |
| 09:16.48 | ZealotOnAStick | "casual raiding guild" is a contradiction in terms, IMO. |
| 09:20.32 | Corrodias | in any case, the point is that only as of a couple of weeks ago did we have enough people (of ~100 accounts) keyed for karazhan to try it, and paladins were not among them. i think the guild leader has finally reached 70 on his yesterday. |
| 09:23.10 | Corrodias | it's also been a while since we've been doing any raiding. plus i haven't been feral for all that long, myself. :( |
| 09:23.37 | Corrodias | i'm trying to improve my tanking equipment to the point that i can say it's decent, but it's a slow process |
| 09:23.46 | Nom- | Even the trash leading up to Romulo and Julianne is insane |
| 09:23.57 | Nom- | You actually need 3 tanks building aggro to not wipe |
| 09:24.12 | ZealotOnAStick | No you don't. |
| 09:24.26 | Nom- | Yeah you do lol |
| 09:24.28 | Nom- | They one-shot cloth |
| 09:24.29 | Corrodias | counting me in bear form, we'd have had 3 |
| 09:24.45 | ZealotOnAStick | Two is sufficient. Even the stupid duo pairs of skeletons that like to freeze people and drop aggro are entirely doable with 2. We do it every week. |
| 09:24.48 | Nom- | And you can't CC them |
| 09:25.04 | ZealotOnAStick | They just both have to tank them on top of each other and cleave/swipe as much as possible and essentially both fight for aggro. |
| 09:25.17 | Corrodias | the ballroom before moroes and the maiden has small rings of tougher mobs that we weren't able to handle. we need a lot more practice... |
| 09:25.37 | ZealotOnAStick | And people need to understand that it's not a DPS race to drop those, take it easy and consistent and back off if a tank is out of commision until he's back in the fight. |
| 09:25.38 | Corrodias | Swipe doesn't have any threat modifier applied to it as far as i'm aware |
| 09:25.45 | Corrodias | unless it crits, it's worth next to nothing |
| 09:26.07 | Corrodias | i say "next to" because it could be 200 |
| 09:27.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, for a druid tank, your only other option really is to swap mangles and lacerates back and forth between the two . . . but for total threat generation in the end, I don't think that ends up being that much more total threat generation split between both mobs than just swiping like mad. |
| 09:27.11 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 09:27.12 | ZealotOnAStick | but I've not run the math. |
| 09:27.16 | Corrodias | if you're getting a lot of rage from being hit, swipes and mangles could do you |
| 09:27.23 | Nom- | the mobs leading up to Moroes are tough |
| 09:27.29 | Nom- | they hit for about 2000 twice a second |
| 09:27.32 | Corrodias | see, i'm mostly thinking/typing aloud, because i'm inexperienced and hoping somebody will help me think |
| 09:27.37 | Nom- | but these skeletons up above |
| 09:27.41 | Nom- | Before Romulo & Juliet |
| 09:27.44 | Nom- | They one-shot cloth |
| 09:27.47 | ZealotOnAStick | His 4 adds, or the elites mixed in with the aoe packs, Nom? |
| 09:27.54 | Nom- | It's insane |
| 09:27.58 | Corrodias | we realized we could walk around the rings of elites |
| 09:28.03 | Corrodias | and so we avoided them from that point |
| 09:28.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, and the freaking stagehands and actors and so forth bare-hand melee for like 9k. |
| 09:28.23 | ZealotOnAStick | (on cloth) |
| 09:28.49 | Corrodias | i need... stamina enchantments |
| 09:29.04 | Corrodias | does bear form +25% stamina apply to enchantments? |
| 09:29.18 | ZealotOnAStick | It's entirely doable with 2 tanks, everyone just needs to pay attention and, flat out, not rush to kill them. Steal aggro just one can you can fuck a third of the raid, which depending on who else dies, could fuck the whole raid. |
| 09:29.25 | ZealotOnAStick | No, does not. |
| 09:29.27 | ZealotOnAStick | only to base armor. |
| 09:29.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Wait. |
| 09:29.34 | ZealotOnAStick | stam. |
| 09:29.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Uhm. |
| 09:29.42 | ZealotOnAStick | That it might, I'm not sure. |
| 09:29.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I read what you wrote and my brain decided it was something else briefly there. |
| 09:29.54 | Corrodias | given the way it applies to armor, i wouldn't expect it |
| 09:30.10 | Corrodias | "it" being bear form's effect |
| 09:32.48 | Corrodias | still. need more stamina. i don't quite reach 8k health unbuffed without bear form. with it and buffs it's still under 12k. |
| 09:32.58 | Nom- | The harsh thing is, short of our entire guild being forced to run ALL the heroic 5-mans to gear up |
| 09:33.04 | Nom- | I don't see how we could do any better on gear |
| 09:34.08 | Corrodias | i don't even know what to look for in dps gear. i just know a little about what tanking gear i need. :/ |
| 09:34.12 | Corrodias | but enchantments are damn expensive |
| 09:34.35 | Corrodias | nah, only some of them |
| 09:34.50 | Nom- | we have some pretty decent gear requirements for Karazhan raiders |
| 09:35.01 | Nom- | everyone has no more than 2 level 70 greens |
| 09:35.19 | Nom- | at least 5 sockets with blue or better gems |
| 09:35.26 | ZealotOnAStick | gear helps, indeed, but it isn't everything. Skill, and flat out practice, matter a lot. |
| 09:35.40 | Corrodias | at least 5 sockets? |
| 09:35.41 | Nom- | lol we've had a lot of practice |
| 09:35.47 | Corrodias | having sockets doesn't make an item better :/ |
| 09:36.09 | ZealotOnAStick | sounds a bit draconian and demanding there, IMO. There are a few L70 or quest greens that fill specific roles better than almost anything else in the game right now. |
| 09:36.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Manimal's Cinch is a tough replacement. Not impossible, but it's absurdly good for the rarity. |
| 09:36.37 | Corrodias | damn manimalist cinch or whatever the fuck it's called |
| 09:37.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got a total of 3 sockets on my Warlock, on 1 item. I was top damage for all of Kara last week, and top on Gruul. Having more sockets due to some arbitrary requirement wouldn't benefit me, and it might impair. |
| 09:37.25 | Nom- | yeah it's done on a case-by-case |
| 09:37.38 | Corrodias | as for me... my stuff sucks |
| 09:38.09 | ZealotOnAStick | A moment, Corrodias, lemme see if I can find a couple of links for ya relatively quickly. |
| 09:38.16 | Corrodias | but... i don't think anybody has had a full mechanar run in weeks |
| 09:38.21 | Corrodias | it just never happens |
| 09:38.34 | Corrodias | i can't get my damn cloak if nobody ever goes! |
| 09:38.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Tanking: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=104460564&sid=1 |
| 09:39.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Cat DPS: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=104460524&sid=1 |
| 09:39.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Bear mitigation charts: http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Bear_Mitigation/ |
| 09:40.16 | Corrodias | hodamn |
| 09:40.18 | Corrodias | them's some numbers |
| 09:42.32 | Corrodias | well, thanks. i do need to double-check my gear list against that. |
| 09:53.41 | Corrodias | apparently i was pretty accurate in picking out what items i needed to work toward |
| 09:53.44 | Corrodias | at least for tanking |
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| 09:54.28 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 10:01.19 | Nom- | heh we're flasking up and trying one last time |
| 10:01.34 | Corrodias | good luck with that. i'm going to bed. 'ni! |
| 10:01.46 | Nom- | Ciao |
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| 10:20.15 | kahdgarxi | *sigh* I am such a noob >.> |
| 10:25.43 | kahdgarxi | trying to debug my own code is like trying to find a needle the size of a tick in a haystack the size of a house >.< |
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| 10:42.27 | Nom- | *cry* |
| 10:42.32 | Nom- | 6 hours of raiding and no bosses downed |
| 10:42.36 | kahdgarxi | :( |
| 10:42.39 | kahdgarxi | what instance? |
| 10:42.41 | Nom- | Romulo and Julianne is a real prick of an encounter |
| 10:42.46 | kahdgarxi | yes they are |
| 10:42.51 | kahdgarxi | we were trying it with 9, lol |
| 10:43.11 | Nom- | Absolutely no problems with phase1 and 2 |
| 10:43.17 | kahdgarxi | they're cake |
| 10:43.18 | Nom- | and we get off to a good start on phase 3 |
| 10:43.22 | Nom- | Then we lose a tank |
| 10:43.43 | Nom- | Always the one on Romulo (of course) |
| 10:43.51 | kahdgarxi | yeah, his burst is nasty |
| 10:44.00 | kahdgarxi | you're having a priest dispel his buff, right? |
| 10:44.14 | kahdgarxi | or shaman purge it, whatever |
| 10:44.44 | Nom- | Yeah mage spellsteal |
| 10:45.08 | kahdgarxi | spellsteal takes too much mana |
| 10:45.11 | kahdgarxi | and the buff doesn't help mages |
| 10:51.28 | kahdgarxi | anyone want to look at some seriously screwed up code? |
| 10:52.33 | kahdgarxi | http://www.pastey.net/8552 |
| 10:54.11 | kahdgarxi | right now i'm working on UHLS_DoLoot() |
| 10:54.24 | kahdgarxi | mainly the reordering part |
| 10:55.01 | kahdgarxi | basically lines 59 to 110 |
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| 13:36.36 | SynthosX | hello |
| 13:36.52 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 13:37.38 | kahdgarxi | Morning |
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| 14:22.35 | Nom- | Is it just me, or are the WoW Forums down ? |
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| 15:11.53 | SynthosX | gargh |
| 15:12.21 | SynthosX | is it possible to run code after a frame has been declared (in xml) but before any tags are processed? |
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| 15:14.51 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all! |
| 15:14.54 | SynthosX | heya |
| 15:15.53 | YammYgirlcoding | guys, I use ATSW addon ( that one for enhanced tradeskill ). Very good one. But I'd like to add the recipe level next to its recipe name. You guys think it's possible to grab this value from the recipes into a variable? |
| 15:16.35 | SynthosX | a recipe you know or don't know yet? |
| 15:16.38 | YammYgirlcoding | i know |
| 15:17.17 | YammYgirlcoding | I believe their data is stored in some lua file |
| 15:18.05 | SynthosX | I don't know anything about that mod specifically |
| 15:18.07 | JoshBorke | SynthosX: pretty sure OnLoad is only fired after all XML related information has been parsed |
| 15:18.08 | YammYgirlcoding | but as the addon reload data from server every once and while, I guess I'd have to add the parser to work at the moment of sync |
| 15:19.16 | YammYgirlcoding | lets remains basic. Grab a recipe that I know and parse it's final crafted's level. |
| 15:19.31 | YammYgirlcoding | it may be into chat channel. |
| 15:19.34 | SynthosX | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#TradeSkill_Functions |
| 15:20.10 | SynthosX | something like this maybe? |
| 15:20.12 | SynthosX | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTradeSkillItemStats |
| 15:20.53 | SynthosX | JoshBorke: Unfortunately my code is structured such that I need lua run before my main frame's OnLoad, but after the <Frame> tag |
| 15:21.15 | JoshBorke | have your lua file run before the XML |
| 15:21.34 | JoshBorke | put it in your toc file first, it'll parse the lua file then parse the xml file |
| 15:21.42 | SynthosX | i know, but i need the frame tag declard |
| 15:22.08 | JoshBorke | what are you trying to do? |
| 15:22.18 | SynthosX | I'm trying to have my addon be an "extension" of the frame table |
| 15:22.30 | YammYgirlcoding | SynthosX yes yes!! |
| 15:22.30 | SynthosX | I can do it, but only after the frame tag |
| 15:23.07 | YammYgirlcoding | any chance I can print the method result in game? var = GetTradeSkillItemStats(skillId) |
| 15:23.08 | SynthosX | my functions are added into the frame's table |
| 15:23.36 | JoshBorke | so, is this a frame you own? |
| 15:23.46 | JoshBorke | i'm genuinely confused :-) so you'll have to bear with me |
| 15:24.58 | SynthosX | yeah np |
| 15:25.04 | SynthosX | Yes i own the frame |
| 15:25.17 | SynthosX | <Frame name="InvSort" parent="UIParent" inherits="InvSortBasicFrameTemplate" hidden="false" id="0"> |
| 15:25.45 | JoshBorke | and you need to do something with the frame before the frame's OnLoad gets called? |
| 15:26.10 | SynthosX | yes, but since my functions are InvSort:Init() .. etc I need it after the frame tag |
| 15:26.16 | SynthosX | actually though I just thought of something |
| 15:26.32 | SynthosX | I could have a fake inherited frame |
| 15:26.40 | SynthosX | that runs the code i need... |
| 15:26.44 | SynthosX | might work |
| 15:27.02 | JoshBorke | and you need this code to run before the fr8ame is fully defined? |
| 15:27.28 | SynthosX | yes |
| 15:27.39 | JoshBorke | what is the code doing? |
| 15:27.58 | SynthosX | it's defining the base functions of my addon |
| 15:28.14 | JoshBorke | why can't the frame be fully defined? |
| 15:29.03 | SynthosX | because child frames need access to the table :\ |
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| 15:29.22 | JoshBorke | the parent frame should have it's only fired first |
| 15:29.40 | JoshBorke | s/only/onload/ |
| 15:30.02 | JoshBorke | s/it's/its/ |
| 15:30.11 | SynthosX | Unfortunately I think children get their OnLoads fired first |
| 15:30.13 | JoshBorke | s/it's only/its only/ |
| 15:30.46 | JoshBorke | bah, i'm so out of it |
| 15:30.51 | SynthosX | hah it's okl |
| 15:30.59 | SynthosX | it was St. Pattys day yesterday ;) |
| 15:31.12 | JoshBorke | i did taxes yesterday |
| 15:31.14 | JoshBorke | and slept |
| 15:32.08 | SynthosX | ah |
| 15:33.44 | SynthosX | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Code_Load_Order |
| 15:34.49 | SynthosX | the article is overly complex, but F's OnLoad is at the bottom |
| 15:37.07 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm testing virtual frames |
| 15:38.16 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.28 | Nom- | That's the best forum quote ever |
| 15:38.31 | cladhaire | .... |
| 15:38.49 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 15:39.29 | YammYgirlcoding | Nom- really? that actually happens? O.o |
| 15:39.51 | Nom- | That was someone's post on the forum |
| 15:39.53 | JoshBorke | nope, virtual doesn't work either. you could delay the OnLoad for thec hild frames by creating a function for them and calling that after the main frame finishes |
| 15:39.54 | Nom- | Not me :) |
| 15:40.51 | YammYgirlcoding | i know. but it's like beeing shaman and not using totems, pally and not use blessings, druid and not using cat... :) |
| 15:41.03 | JoshBorke | priest and not using heals |
| 15:41.41 | JoshBorke | oh wait... |
| 15:42.00 | Nom- | VE + VT ftw |
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| 15:54.06 | Nom- | lol |
| 15:54.34 | Nom- | I don't see why a paladin asking for a heal because they're oom is funny |
| 15:54.48 | Nom- | It's serious business |
| 15:55.02 | SynthosX | bubble! |
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| 15:57.03 | Nom- | a big heal on a paladin is as good as a mana pot |
| 15:57.34 | SynthosX | haha |
| 15:58.44 | Nom- | what's so funny :`( |
| 16:00.15 | nevcairiel | pallys get 10% of heal? |
| 16:00.28 | nevcairiel | a heal costs me more mana then the pally gets. |
| 16:00.40 | nevcairiel | so, no way :) |
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| 16:05.27 | Nom- | if the other healers have heaps of mana it is |
| 16:05.41 | Nom- | meh anyway going to sleep |
| 16:05.55 | Nom- | so tired after like 12 hours of raiding |
| 16:06.18 | zenzelezz | 12 hours? o_O |
| 16:06.50 | Nom- | just about lol |
| 16:06.59 | zenzelezz | raiding what? |
| 16:07.00 | Nom- | 7 hours in Kara wiping on Romulo and Julianne |
| 16:07.05 | zenzelezz | O_O |
| 16:07.08 | Nom- | then another 3 in Gruul's lair |
| 16:07.09 | cladhaire | =/ |
| 16:07.44 | Nom- | anyway ciao |
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| 16:40.57 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. can I concat a string inside a method argument? like ( "text"..var ) |
| 16:40.58 | YammYgirlcoding | ? |
| 16:41.06 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:41.27 | YammYgirlcoding | how is it? i tried with " and ' and doesn't work |
| 16:41.41 | nevcairiel | the way you wrote it, it should work already |
| 16:42.49 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm I'm trying to grab the tradeskill recipe's level. but something is missing |
| 16:42.54 | YammYgirlcoding | like /script a={GetTradeSkillItemStats(2)}; for k, v in pairs(a) do if v then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(v); m=string.match(v, "requires level"); DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"..m); end end |
| 16:43.26 | YammYgirlcoding | can't I print two messages to chat frame? When I add the seccond print, it always says 'consumable' |
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| 16:44.43 | nevcairiel | that should work |
| 16:45.10 | YammYgirlcoding | if I remove the second print, it works fine. but when I add it it just says 'consumable' . not even my 'test' string shows |
| 16:45.24 | nevcairiel | very weird |
| 16:45.47 | YammYgirlcoding | anyone with wow opened to test it ? open tradeskills and fire the script, please. |
| 16:46.27 | YammYgirlcoding | (thanks) |
| 16:47.57 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm when I remove the 'm' it prints 'test' many times |
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| 16:49.07 | foxlit | Is there a macro size restriction for secureactionbutton's macrotext attribute? |
| 16:49.24 | YammYgirlcoding | maybe it's the match function. I'd like to print out 'test' if in v strings happens to have a string starting with 'requires'. Any other idea but match ? |
| 16:49.41 | nevcairiel | yeah its the match function |
| 16:49.45 | nevcairiel | i added another if |
| 16:49.49 | nevcairiel | to check if "m" is set |
| 16:49.56 | nevcairiel | and it prints soem stuff |
| 16:49.59 | nevcairiel | but never "test" |
| 16:50.05 | YammYgirlcoding | pretty odd |
| 16:50.16 | foxlit | string.match is case sensitive? |
| 16:50.16 | YammYgirlcoding | you know any other match method? |
| 16:50.26 | foxlit | And you aren't actually capturing anything? |
| 16:50.46 | YammYgirlcoding | oh maybe i'd test with 'Require' |
| 16:50.48 | YammYgirlcoding | let's see |
| 16:53.09 | YammYgirlcoding | strange. I just changed the match string and it error |
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| 16:53.21 | YammYgirlcoding | maybe another method to do that? |
| 16:53.29 | nevcairiel | if it doesnt match, m is nil, and the concat will fail |
| 16:53.34 | nevcairiel | and error |
| 16:53.35 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:54.45 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm what should I do instead? |
| 16:55.05 | nevcairiel | check if m is valid, before concating |
| 16:55.11 | YammYgirlcoding | i guess I wrote syntax wrong: see : script a={GetTradeSkillItemStats(2)}; for k, v in pairs(a) do if v then |
| 16:55.11 | YammYgirlcoding | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(v); m=string.match(v, "Requires Level"); if m then |
| 16:55.11 | YammYgirlcoding | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage('test') end; end end |
| 16:55.28 | YammYgirlcoding | i'm not sure of where put the ends |
| 16:55.46 | YammYgirlcoding | can I have an if inside another if? |
| 16:55.49 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:55.56 | YammYgirlcoding | what I did wrong? |
| 16:56.19 | nevcairiel | ./script a={GetTradeSkillItemStats(2)}; for k, v in pairs(a) do if v then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(v); m=string.match(v, "Requires Level"); if m then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"..m); end end end |
| 16:56.23 | nevcairiel | looks like yours |
| 16:56.25 | nevcairiel | somewhat |
| 16:56.33 | nevcairiel | but it works, altho i didnt get any hits :) |
| 16:56.45 | YammYgirlcoding | open a tradeskill window before test it |
| 16:56.52 | YammYgirlcoding | it should print out something |
| 16:56.55 | nevcairiel | my test char only had first aid, hehe :) |
| 16:57.01 | YammYgirlcoding | can use it |
| 16:57.10 | nevcairiel | it outputed something |
| 16:57.14 | nevcairiel | but no where the "test" |
| 16:57.19 | YammYgirlcoding | you should remove the 'Level' |
| 16:57.24 | YammYgirlcoding | to work on u |
| 16:57.41 | YammYgirlcoding | i guess |
| 16:57.49 | nevcairiel | yeah it outputs Requires First Aid (75) or something |
| 16:58.08 | YammYgirlcoding | and the 'test'? |
| 16:58.13 | nevcairiel | yeah that too :) |
| 16:58.15 | YammYgirlcoding | you can match 'Requires' ? |
| 16:59.09 | nevcairiel | yeah it outputs "testRequires" |
| 17:00.11 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm what I really wanna do is get a true flag, if found a 'requires', I need to grab the string after 'requires' |
| 17:00.15 | YammYgirlcoding | to grab the level |
| 17:00.37 | YammYgirlcoding | maybe match is not the right method |
| 17:00.41 | YammYgirlcoding | any idea? |
| 17:01.00 | nevcairiel | you can check if it actually matched, so you know that you got the right line |
| 17:01.00 | JoshBorke | requires,text = string.match(<whatever>,"(%s) (%s+)") or something liket hat |
| 17:01.44 | YammYgirlcoding | what stands for %s ? |
| 17:02.10 | foxlit | mm, spacechars. |
| 17:02.44 | YammYgirlcoding | i didnt get what josh code does |
| 17:03.44 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm a c# coder, so sorry for beeing too new to lua syntax, this is my first attempt on poking lua code |
| 17:04.18 | nevcairiel | i just started working with c#, and i find it somewhat similar to lua actually :) |
| 17:04.48 | nevcairiel | so you have a good base to start from |
| 17:04.54 | YammYgirlcoding | nice ^^ |
| 17:06.35 | YammYgirlcoding | and what could I do instead of that match method? I guess I chose the wrong one |
| 17:07.56 | YammYgirlcoding | ah there is string.find which returns the index. hmm maybeI can use that |
| 17:08.36 | JoshBorke | YammYgirlcoding: string.match is a string.find that doesn't return the index |
| 17:09.13 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm no string.find did a mess |
| 17:09.33 | YammYgirlcoding | I just need a boolean return |
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| 17:09.59 | zenzelezz | now I'm a bit confused, a boolean about what? |
| 17:10.09 | YammYgirlcoding | if found the string or not |
| 17:11.12 | YammYgirlcoding | like. I have returns like that: Consumable /n Effect: First Aid /n Requires First Aid(300) |
| 17:11.32 | YammYgirlcoding | I need to see if it returned any string with 'Requires' and to grab the 300 value |
| 17:11.50 | YammYgirlcoding | or maybe just to grab the first ( match |
| 17:12.22 | JoshBorke | stuff = string.match(<string>,"^Requires (%s+)"); if (stuff) then -- it found the requires |
| 17:12.24 | JoshBorke | might work |
| 17:12.47 | foxlit | %s is really the wrong wildcard to use |
| 17:13.16 | YammYgirlcoding | foxlit josh code won't work? |
| 17:14.06 | foxlit | Change %s to %a |
| 17:14.13 | foxlit | And it will |
| 17:14.44 | JoshBorke | is %s whitespace? |
| 17:14.48 | foxlit | Yep |
| 17:14.57 | YammYgirlcoding | and what is a% ? |
| 17:15.02 | foxlit | You're probably confusing it with string.format("%s",stuff) |
| 17:15.12 | foxlit | a-Z |
| 17:15.35 | YammYgirlcoding | what If I want to grab the string ( instead of Requires? I tried to add it, but it prints the script instead |
| 17:15.49 | YammYgirlcoding | "(" is a no for lua? |
| 17:16.17 | nymbia | escape those. |
| 17:16.45 | YammYgirlcoding | aah. hmm "\(" ? |
| 17:16.49 | foxlit | %( |
| 17:17.03 | JoshBorke | http://www.lua.org/pil/20.1.html |
| 17:17.22 | YammYgirlcoding | hehe |
| 17:17.33 | YammYgirlcoding | ah I got the thing to work |
| 17:17.42 | nymbia | line:match("Requires (.+)%((%d+)%)") |
| 17:17.49 | YammYgirlcoding | grabbing the ( works for me. now I need to grab all that's inside the () |
| 17:17.52 | nymbia | will split up First Aid and 300 |
| 17:19.09 | YammYgirlcoding | I just need what's in the ()s |
| 17:19.28 | nymbia | easy then |
| 17:19.51 | nymbia | line:match("Requires.+(%d+)") |
| 17:20.01 | foxlit | Hm, SetOverrideBindingClick refuses to work for some strange reason. |
| 17:20.42 | YammYgirlcoding | nymbia hmmm it's printing 'consumable' instead |
| 17:21.04 | YammYgirlcoding | %d goes to line value? |
| 17:21.08 | nymbia | YammYgirlcoding: on which pattern? |
| 17:21.13 | YammYgirlcoding | on last one |
| 17:21.19 | YammYgirlcoding | ./script a={GetTradeSkillItemStats(3)}; for k, v in pairs(a) do if v then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(v); m=string.match("Requires.+(%d+)"); if m then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"..m); end end end |
| 17:21.56 | nymbia | its printing testConsumable? |
| 17:22.10 | YammYgirlcoding | just consumable |
| 17:22.15 | nymbia | oh i see.. sec |
| 17:23.21 | nymbia | ./script a={GetTradeSkillItemStats(3)}; for k, v in pairs(a) do if v then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(v); m=string.match(v,"Requires.-%((%d+)%)"); if m then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"..m); end end end |
| 17:23.22 | YammYgirlcoding | the string uses to be like this: Requires professionname Level (999) |
| 17:24.01 | YammYgirlcoding | oh god!! it worked! \o/ |
| 17:24.19 | nymbia | :) |
| 17:24.35 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm can I add a lua file at the tradeskills addons with just that? |
| 17:24.38 | YammYgirlcoding | maybe in a function? |
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| 17:25.15 | nymbia | what're trying to get in the end? i missed that |
| 17:26.50 | YammYgirlcoding | I want to change tradeskills addon by adding the recipe level next to its name |
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| 17:28.10 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm lets see. next step: create a method that receive the skill index and return the level. |
| 17:28.34 | YammYgirlcoding | how do I declare a method? are the variables strongly typed? |
| 17:28.49 | nymbia | hmm.. does that work for all tradeskills? |
| 17:30.45 | YammYgirlcoding | yes! |
| 17:30.46 | YammYgirlcoding | i guess |
| 17:30.54 | YammYgirlcoding | oh wait. hmmm |
| 17:31.13 | YammYgirlcoding | there are two types of string to match |
| 17:31.26 | YammYgirlcoding | requires professionname (999) or requires level 99 |
| 17:31.27 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm |
| 17:31.56 | YammYgirlcoding | well in both cases i need to grab the integer part |
| 17:32.05 | YammYgirlcoding | any way to parse for integers? |
| 17:32.23 | nymbia | string.match(v,"Requires.-(%d+)") |
| 17:33.44 | YammYgirlcoding | worked!! |
| 17:33.50 | YammYgirlcoding | ok. back to the function part :) |
| 17:35.19 | YammYgirlcoding | i created a new lua file in tradeskills addon folder. can I reloadui or need to exit it? |
| 17:35.49 | nymbia | you need to exit |
| 17:36.01 | YammYgirlcoding | no logout either? |
| 17:36.08 | nymbia | nope |
| 17:36.34 | YammYgirlcoding | fine. ( exiting... ) |
| 17:36.49 | YammYgirlcoding | i wish we could have a dev enviroment outside the game :) |
| 17:37.49 | JoshBorke | there used to be one, but it no longer works |
| 17:38.36 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm I added the new lua file with the code above, in a function yammyGetRecipeLevel( i ) |
| 17:39.02 | YammYgirlcoding | but when I try to use it it says attempt to call global 'yammyGetRecipeLevel' (a nil value) |
| 17:39.10 | YammYgirlcoding | anything I forgot to declare? |
| 17:39.53 | nymbia | did you stick a reference to it in the toc? |
| 17:40.16 | YammYgirlcoding | oh. do I need it ? |
| 17:40.36 | nymbia | yeah |
| 17:41.04 | JoshBorke | lvling fishing ftl :-( |
| 17:41.30 | JoshBorke | i'm up to 222 from 16 yesterday |
| 17:41.54 | YammYgirlcoding | :( |
| 17:42.10 | YammYgirlcoding | I changed toc file. reloadui will work from now? |
| 17:42.26 | nymbia | yup |
| 17:42.32 | YammYgirlcoding | at least :) |
| 17:43.56 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm I added the filename to the toc's savedvariables line, reloadedui and still error for nil value |
| 17:44.11 | JoshBorke | not the savedvariables line |
| 17:44.24 | JoshBorke | it's another file to include so it goes with the rest of the files |
| 17:45.46 | YammYgirlcoding | all file names are listed like : SavedVariables: atsw_orderby,atsw_bankitemlist..... |
| 17:46.04 | YammYgirlcoding | and the xml files are listed one at line, after the savedvariables line |
| 17:46.07 | JoshBorke | that's wrong |
| 17:46.15 | YammYgirlcoding | they coder did that |
| 17:46.27 | YammYgirlcoding | should I have my file one at line like the xml ? |
| 17:47.03 | JoshBorke | you want to list the files like you have teh xml file |
| 17:47.10 | JoshBorke | file1.lua |
| 17:47.12 | JoshBorke | file2.lua |
| 17:47.15 | JoshBorke | file3.xml |
| 17:47.15 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm |
| 17:47.15 | JoshBorke | etc |
| 17:47.33 | YammYgirlcoding | the guy did all comma delimited, and his addon worked anyway. go figure |
| 17:48.31 | Cide | that's not file names |
| 17:48.31 | JoshBorke | does his xml file list all those files? |
| 17:48.38 | JoshBorke | savedvariables is ONLY for saving variables |
| 17:48.44 | Cide | ## SavedVariables: <...>, <...> -- not file names |
| 17:48.49 | YammYgirlcoding | those files are listed with commas inside the main toc |
| 17:49.05 | YammYgirlcoding | without extension indeed |
| 17:52.01 | YammYgirlcoding | well I added the file.lua at the end of toc file and exited the game. ah now It knows the function ! hmmm ok. next step. change the addon current recipes listing :) let's see if I can handle that ^^ |
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| 17:55.55 | foxlit | Did they fix the PlayMusic url bug? |
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| 18:00.06 | Corrodias | did they fix your dog? |
| 18:01.37 | foxlit | They certainly haven't fixed that sense of humor. |
| 18:01.56 | SynthosX | anyone know the keybind in photoshop that confines your brush to a straight line? |
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| 18:09.54 | YammYgirlcoding | \o |
| 18:10.11 | YammYgirlcoding | there is a pencil instead of brush. an icon you click |
| 18:10.13 | Cairenn | shift |
| 18:10.37 | Cairenn | it's shift |
| 18:10.50 | YammYgirlcoding | ah that too :) |
| 18:12.12 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm now an easier part. I get strings with 1, 2 or 3 digits at most into a variable. I'd like to add zeros until the number gets 3 digits. Like if 1 digit, put 001.. it 2 digits, put 011. |
| 18:13.55 | YammYgirlcoding | any clue? |
| 18:14.40 | kergoth | string.rep('0', len(str) - 3) or so |
| 18:15.01 | kergoth | er |
| 18:15.13 | kergoth | ('0'):rep(#str - 3) .. str |
| 18:15.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:15.28 | kergoth | mixing up my python and lua syntax again (len() vs #) |
| 18:15.39 | YammYgirlcoding | hehe |
| 18:17.38 | YammYgirlcoding | thank you very much!! |
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| 18:36.49 | Cide | >>> string.format("%.3d", 5), string.format("%.3d", 32), string.format("%.3d", 123) |
| 18:36.49 | Cide | Cide: "005", "032", "123" |
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| 19:04.15 | SynthosX | is it just me or is the unpacked "X" button totally wonked? |
| 19:04.23 | cladhaire | ? |
| 19:09.58 | SynthosX | the blizzard art unpacker |
| 19:10.30 | SynthosX | The X button (and a couple others) are split apart into odd chunks |
| 19:11.38 | SynthosX | UI-Panel-MinimizeButton-Up.blp (and it's variants) |
| 19:12.00 | Cide | how can you open it if it's .blp? :) |
| 19:12.42 | SynthosX | http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7988/wtfil9.jpg |
| 19:12.47 | SynthosX | XnView |
| 19:13.00 | SynthosX | And there's converters for BLP to PNG or TGA |
| 19:13.39 | wereHamster | YammYgirlcoding, lua uses more or less the C printf format, so you can use string.format("%03d", i) |
| 19:14.08 | SynthosX | I've looked at UIPanelCloseButton and it doesn't use the individual parts (unless there's something hidden behind the scenes... but why?) |
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| 19:14.51 | wereHamster | hm.. seems Cide was faster.. |
| 19:15.15 | Cide | >>> string.format("%03d", 52) |
| 19:15.15 | Cide | Cide: "052" |
| 19:16.11 | Cide | SynthosX: maybe the converters aren't 100% working |
| 19:16.33 | kergoth | good point, string.format will be faster than manually doing it. forgot lua's format strings include padding |
| 19:17.12 | SynthosX | XnView works fine for everything else... |
| 19:17.17 | SynthosX | including other images that size |
| 19:17.50 | SynthosX | but you never know |
| 19:18.19 | SynthosX | oop! |
| 19:18.21 | SynthosX | you're right |
| 19:18.37 | SynthosX | XnView is messed up... because BLP-PNG spits out a proper image |
| 19:25.47 | YammYgirlcoding | wereHamster hmmm ah can I use it like printf. much better :) |
| 19:27.10 | wereHamster | YammYgirlcoding, http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/string.format |
| 19:28.06 | YammYgirlcoding | stupid question: how do I tell to mirc that the browser is no explorer? |
| 19:29.24 | SynthosX | is firefox set to your default browser? |
| 19:29.32 | YammYgirlcoding | it is |
| 19:29.37 | SynthosX | it not then you might not be able to get mirc to launch FF |
| 19:29.40 | YammYgirlcoding | anything else opens ff |
| 19:29.46 | SynthosX | it's hard coded to lauch IE |
| 19:29.52 | SynthosX | just right clikc and copy link |
| 19:29.54 | wereHamster | rm iexplorer.exe && ln -sf firefox.exe iexplorer.exe |
| 19:29.55 | YammYgirlcoding | ah :( |
| 19:30.14 | wereHamster | .. or would that break something? |
| 19:30.21 | YammYgirlcoding | wereHamster what this code doeS? |
| 19:31.06 | YammYgirlcoding | rm is linux code? |
| 19:31.08 | SynthosX | wereHamster |
| 19:31.18 | SynthosX | yah that's linux linking right? |
| 19:31.31 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm iexplorer uses windows unfortunately |
| 19:31.40 | wereHamster | .. or replace iexplorer.exe with a copy of firefox.exe |
| 19:31.45 | SynthosX | lol! |
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| 19:31.50 | YammYgirlcoding | ah lol |
| 19:31.51 | SynthosX | that's an awesome idea |
| 19:32.02 | YammYgirlcoding | and people say I am the crazy one :) |
| 19:32.35 | foxlit | It's iexplore.exe; and you probably shouldn't touch it. |
| 19:32.50 | foxlit | Who knows where it's tied into? :) |
| 19:33.05 | YammYgirlcoding | i sense many side effects for doing that :) |
| 19:33.13 | SynthosX | iexplore is in everything |
| 19:33.15 | SynthosX | it's like a virus |
| 19:33.19 | YammYgirlcoding | lol |
| 19:33.30 | SynthosX | plus i just tried deleting mine |
| 19:33.32 | SynthosX | doesn't work |
| 19:33.34 | SynthosX | it readds itself |
| 19:33.45 | YammYgirlcoding | can't rename it either? |
| 19:34.20 | YammYgirlcoding | na.. that won't work :) nice try wereHamster :) |
| 19:38.34 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. are lua file load in file system order or in toc declaration order? |
| 19:38.38 | YammYgirlcoding | loaded* |
| 19:39.12 | nevcairiel | toc order, i think |
| 19:40.15 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm I want to change one of the addon's method. Best way is adding my file at the end of the toc and rewrite the method in my code? or is there a more beautiful way? |
| 19:42.51 | YammYgirlcoding | one day I heard of function hookings in lua. maybe should I use that or it would just complicate it? |
| 19:43.23 | PProvost | Hook it |
| 19:43.30 | PProvost | I do that all the time... |
| 19:43.38 | SynthosX | mm |
| 19:43.42 | PProvost | I create my own addon that is SomeAddon_Hacks |
| 19:43.44 | SynthosX | she's just modding one addon |
| 19:43.51 | PProvost | And overload SomeAddon in there |
| 19:43.51 | SynthosX | oh i see |
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| 19:43.59 | PProvost | Keeps me protected from losing my stuff when I update |
| 19:44.06 | SynthosX | yeah very true |
| 19:44.09 | PProvost | My stuff might break when I update, but I don't lose it |
| 19:44.14 | PProvost | Lua is nice for that kinda thing |
| 19:44.51 | SynthosX | I might make something like that for MonkeyQuest noob tips :D |
| 19:46.03 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm |
| 19:46.30 | YammYgirlcoding | so how it will know which method comes last? it's the file load order that counts? |
| 19:47.52 | Cide | yes |
| 19:47.56 | PProvost | All depends on how the addon works. Sometimes I user Dependecies in the TOC file to make sure mine comes last. That is the most typical scenario. |
| 19:48.17 | PProvost | But other times, I make sure mine loads first by naming it something like !!!!SomeAddon_Hacks |
| 19:48.24 | PProvost | (Less typical) |
| 19:48.35 | PProvost | Dependencies is usually the best bet. |
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| 19:49.57 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm but If I use dependencies I will be forced to change original toc file and when they updated it, our change will be 'lost' |
| 19:50.13 | YammYgirlcoding | there is no transparent way? |
| 19:51.16 | YammYgirlcoding | PProvost so the hooker method do must be loaded before original method? I thought it should be loaded at the end |
| 19:51.18 | nevcairiel | Depends what you want, loading your addon before the other? |
| 19:51.40 | YammYgirlcoding | like. when the original method get called, mine runs instead |
| 19:51.46 | nevcairiel | ah ok |
| 19:51.51 | PProvost | When you load first it is because you want to change something before the addon... when you load after you can replace things that are already there. |
| 19:52.08 | nevcairiel | add the addon you want to change as a dependany to your addon |
| 19:52.13 | nevcairiel | so your loads afterwards |
| 19:52.16 | nevcairiel | and hook then. |
| 19:52.21 | PProvost | Right. Based on what you said at the beginning, I think you want Dependencies and hooking. |
| 19:52.39 | YammYgirlcoding | aaaah got it |
| 19:52.50 | YammYgirlcoding | I must add a toc file for my own script, right? |
| 19:53.02 | nevcairiel | You can only hook something which already exists, so you need to hook after the original addon was loaded |
| 19:54.26 | YammYgirlcoding | on RequiredDeps should I add the original addon title, like : AdvancedTradeSkillWindow ? |
| 19:56.53 | SynthosX | addons are loaded in alphabetical order |
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| 19:57.13 | SynthosX | so 0000000000000000000000000000000000000myhaks should load first |
| 19:57.48 | YammYgirlcoding | lol |
| 19:58.37 | SynthosX | err |
| 19:58.43 | SynthosX | but you want it to load last |
| 19:58.50 | SynthosX | so zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzmyhaks is what you need |
| 19:59.04 | YammYgirlcoding | you guys are funny :) |
| 20:00.39 | Tain | They aren't always loaded in alphabetical order. Most people's are, but it depends on the OS and filesystem so you have to check what order your own loads in. |
| 20:01.13 | SynthosX | ahh |
| 20:01.17 | SynthosX | good to know |
| 20:04.48 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm good to know :) |
| 20:09.21 | YammYgirlcoding | I added a new file for my 'addon', called the original as dependencie, then adden my changed method in my 'addon' file. I didn't do any hooking thing, just rewrited the method. It's supposed to work as well, or is there any side effect for just doing like this? |
| 20:10.51 | SynthosX | well |
| 20:10.55 | SynthosX | if the addon's function changes |
| 20:11.03 | SynthosX | then the changes won't be retroactive to your function |
| 20:11.09 | SynthosX | hooking is a simple as |
| 20:11.09 | PProvost | YammYgirlcoding, you don't care about the name if you use Dependencies in your TOC. Wow will make sure the Dependencies are loaded first. So use that. |
| 20:11.16 | SynthosX | hookedbackup=hookedfunction |
| 20:11.28 | SynthosX | hookedfunction = mybetter function |
| 20:11.35 | SynthosX | function mybetterfuction |
| 20:11.38 | Kaso | have you ever tried making two interdepent addons :> |
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| 20:11.43 | SynthosX | hookedbackup(...); |
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| 20:15.16 | YammYgirlcoding | at the end of mybetterfunction do I need to call hookedbackup as if it was the original one? |
| 20:16.27 | Mr_Rabies | i'd imagine writing two interdependent addons would be something like that episode of star trek where they destroy that computer controlling an entire society with recursive logic |
| 20:17.41 | YammYgirlcoding | did that ended on endless loop? |
| 20:19.49 | Kaso | Last time i tested it just loaded the second one which then errored because the first one wasnt loaded, then the second one also errored beacuse the first one errored |
| 20:19.54 | Kaso | Big Ol' pile of errors |
| 20:22.27 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm see If I did the hooking right. http://wowi.pastey.net/8565-3e1l |
| 20:24.11 | Kaso | not quite |
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| 20:24.19 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm what have I missed? |
| 20:24.28 | Kaso | Wait |
| 20:24.34 | Kaso | sorry i miss read |
| 20:24.43 | Kaso | you're over-riding the function not hooking? |
| 20:25.08 | YammYgirlcoding | by know I just was overriding. On this code i tried to do the hooking instead |
| 20:25.36 | Kaso | Well the concept of hooking relys on you using the orginal function somewhere |
| 20:25.38 | Kaso | which you dont |
| 20:25.55 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm |
| 20:26.06 | YammYgirlcoding | so I guess I missunderstood it |
| 20:26.35 | YammYgirlcoding | like. I just added some code in the existing function |
| 20:26.42 | Kaso | What does ATSW_GetTradeSkillInfo do? |
| 20:26.44 | YammYgirlcoding | to change its return value |
| 20:26.48 | Kaso | and what do you want it to do |
| 20:27.14 | YammYgirlcoding | like. I want to add the recipe level to the recipe's name |
| 20:27.33 | YammYgirlcoding | so I changed the original method that return the name |
| 20:28.01 | YammYgirlcoding | which is the method atsw above |
| 20:28.04 | Kaso | you want to do something like this |
| 20:29.05 | YammYgirlcoding | like lv050 Boot of Thing. or pr350 Heavy Netherweave Thing |
| 20:29.16 | Kaso | http://wowi.pastey.net/8566 |
| 20:31.43 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm i guess it is something like that. *still trying to understand* |
| 20:31.43 | Kaso | That make any sense? |
| 20:32.31 | Kaso | What that does is keep a pointer to the old function, then over writes it, takes the value that old function gives you, fiddles with them a bit, then returns them |
| 20:35.29 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmmmm after reading again and again, i guess I got the idea of hooking thing. It do calls the original method, and changes the return values we need to change, then return it as if it was the original one. close? |
| 20:36.19 | YammYgirlcoding | but isn't it the opossite? like function hooked_newMethod first, then inside call the original ? |
| 20:36.58 | YammYgirlcoding | this way you said it seems that you are both, ovewriting and hooking |
| 20:39.12 | Kaso | Well |
| 20:39.17 | YammYgirlcoding | wait. looking in a low-level point of view, I see that the hooked function is another allocated memory copy from the original method. it is? |
| 20:39.44 | YammYgirlcoding | ( or whatever it's called ) |
| 20:40.37 | YammYgirlcoding | shortly, a new memory pointer |
| 20:40.46 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 20:40.51 | Kaso | Hm? Im not sure i get your drift, all hooking is is retaining a pointer to the orginal function, then pointing that orginal function onto your new function (in this case i've just done that shorthand by creating a new function with the same name as the old |
| 20:42.03 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm but what does it need to be used, if you are overwriting the original method anyway? Why is hooking really needed, you know? |
| 20:42.32 | JoshBorke | hooking is usually useful when you want to know some function has been called without altering teh function |
| 20:42.47 | JoshBorke | or you want to modify the results of a function call |
| 20:44.10 | JoshBorke | not to jump in during the middle of a conversation... |
| 20:44.29 | Kaso | I think you explained it better than i would have |
| 20:45.08 | JoshBorke | or you want to prevent a function from being called altogether |
| 20:45.14 | JoshBorke | but then that's not really hooking |
| 20:45.22 | YammYgirlcoding | aaaaah I see :) |
| 20:45.54 | JoshBorke | a classical example that is no longer really needed, is to hook the SetSpellUnit (or whatever) to accurately determine the target of a spellcast |
| 20:46.04 | YammYgirlcoding | well... My first addon is up and running :) with dependency and hooking \o/ |
| 20:46.10 | JoshBorke | =) |
| 20:46.47 | YammYgirlcoding | now it comes the version 2 :) |
| 20:46.59 | YammYgirlcoding | there are the side effects of what I've done ;) |
| 20:48.03 | YammYgirlcoding | for example. Some recipes doesn't have in their tooltips that it requires a min level, or a min skill. Should I assume all to be 001 instead ? |
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| 21:23.09 | decdev | whats the difference ? :) |
| 21:23.21 | Kaso | This is for chatting about lua |
| 21:23.27 | decdev | ah ok |
| 21:23.27 | Kaso | the other is for wiki business |
| 21:23.34 | decdev | very good. |
| 21:23.56 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. what is not operator in oposal to == ? |
| 21:24.00 | Kaso | ~= |
| 21:24.04 | YammYgirlcoding | != works? |
| 21:24.04 | decdev | I just want to run my mod with /script mymod.lua |
| 21:24.04 | YammYgirlcoding | ah right |
| 21:24.30 | decdev | the response I get when I enter that is the same as I get when I enter a script name that I just made up |
| 21:24.43 | Kaso | the easiest way would be to surround your lua file in one big function then call that function with your script |
| 21:24.43 | JoshBorke | decdev: you can't run a lua file |
| 21:24.49 | JoshBorke | yea, what kaso said |
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| 21:27.24 | decdev | ah ok. so the /script will look through the relative lua files for said function? |
| 21:27.34 | Kaso | no |
| 21:28.05 | YammYgirlcoding | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.09 | decdev | so what would be the syntax for /script |
| 21:28.17 | Kaso | when you log in all the lua from the addons is loaded into memory, then when you call your function it just checks the global namespace and calls that function |
| 21:28.48 | Kaso | your addon will need at very least its own folder in AddOns/ a lua file and a simple TOC file |
| 21:29.29 | decdev | yep, got all that |
| 21:29.43 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. I have this line. p=string.match( v,"Requires.-(%d+)" ); when I add an if( p==nil ) all array iterations go in the if. But some of them do have no value matched. What's wrong? |
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| 21:31.05 | JoshBorke | pastey the code? |
| 21:31.25 | YammYgirlcoding | k. hold on |
| 21:33.21 | YammYgirlcoding | http://wowi.pastey.net/8571 |
| 21:33.22 | JoshBorke | YammYgirlcoding: you'll never get to teh if (p ~= nil) because you return from if p then |
| 21:34.08 | JoshBorke | try putting those 2 if statements before the if p then |
| 21:34.10 | YammYgirlcoding | how u explain it is printing them after ? |
| 21:35.18 | JoshBorke | YammYgirlcoding: http://wowi.pastey.net/8572 |
| 21:35.20 | Kaso | on a slight tanget: Doesnt the first string.match capture everything the second one would |
| 21:35.20 | JoshBorke | try that |
| 21:35.33 | JoshBorke | Kaso: no |
| 21:35.38 | JoshBorke | wait, yes |
| 21:35.40 | YammYgirlcoding | if p , enters the if all the times? |
| 21:35.46 | YammYgirlcoding | even if it's nil or not? |
| 21:36.19 | JoshBorke | no, not |
| 21:36.52 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaso it happens that the string may be 'requires professionname (xxx)' or 'requires level xx' so I added the two tests |
| 21:37.06 | YammYgirlcoding | if it's not a level, i test for profession |
| 21:37.49 | YammYgirlcoding | but if you have better way to do so, tell me, I'm just learning :) |
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| 21:45.04 | YammYgirlcoding | kaso ah wait. i inverted the match lines isn't it? |
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| 21:46.14 | decdev | is there a way to get more detail from the error message in wow. all it says it unexpected ")" near "." |
| 21:46.38 | zenzelezz | you forgot a ) somewhere then |
| 21:46.49 | Thrae | decdev: Try an error catcher like BugSack + BugGrabber or Improved Error Frame. |
| 21:47.00 | decdev | ah, very good. thanks |
| 21:47.23 | Thrae | decdev: Also, try downloading gvim. You don't have to use it as an editor, but it's syntax highlighting is --awesome--. It will help you find missing ), end, etc. |
| 21:47.53 | decdev | yes, syntax highlighting!!! |
| 21:48.09 | decdev | its good for people like me who think they know what they are doing |
| 21:48.23 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. http://wowi.pastey.net/8573 I can't get it why it always enters the else. If there is no else, the matches work right, and when it doesn't match, the level is not added to the name. But If I add an else, all happens to enter on it. why is that? |
| 21:48.44 | Thrae | decdev: SciTE on wowinterface.com is a more standard editor, gvim takes a little getting used to...but it's syntax highlighting is much better |
| 21:50.30 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: Get rid of l and p, just do if string.match( v, "Requires blah blah blah") then |
| 21:50.39 | Thrae | Oh wait, you need l |
| 21:50.42 | YammYgirlcoding | isnt it the same? |
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| 21:50.52 | Thrae | Sorry, didn't see you were using it |
| 21:51.30 | YammYgirlcoding | so. why it always enters the else? it makes no sense. When i remove the else, all strings unmatched do work well ( with no level added on name ) |
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| 21:53.41 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: Your else makes no sense. When would it ever get to if p ? |
| 21:54.06 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: Your else has a return, so everything after that return will never get executed. |
| 21:54.09 | YammYgirlcoding | when if l doesnt enter |
| 21:54.23 | YammYgirlcoding | sometimes if l won't enter |
| 21:54.27 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: if l can be either true, or false. |
| 21:54.39 | YammYgirlcoding | oh |
| 21:54.47 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: If it evaluates to false (IE, l is nil), then it'll go to else. |
| 21:55.00 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: l will only be nil when it doesn't match |
| 21:55.13 | YammYgirlcoding | sometimes l won't match |
| 21:55.38 | Thrae | Then if l doesn't match, it'll do the else, which then returns and exists the function. |
| 21:55.48 | Thrae | "if p..." block will never be executed. |
| 21:55.50 | YammYgirlcoding | see. the string can be weather 'requires level xx' or 'requires profession (xxx)' |
| 21:57.06 | YammYgirlcoding | if I remove the else part, the code works as intended, adds level or skill, and when it doesnt match, just doesnt add a level to the name |
| 21:57.30 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: Do you understand what I am saying? |
| 21:57.52 | YammYgirlcoding | but p block is executed indeed |
| 21:57.58 | YammYgirlcoding | if I remove the else part, all works fine |
| 21:58.14 | YammYgirlcoding | shows lv000 and pr000 for each recipe as intendend to. |
| 21:58.34 | Thrae | l == string.match for "Requires Level (#)". If it finds that pattern in the string, then l has the #. If it does not find it, then l is nil, or no value. |
| 21:58.49 | YammYgirlcoding | so. when it's nil, it goes to p if |
| 21:58.56 | YammYgirlcoding | right? |
| 21:59.07 | YammYgirlcoding | it happens that sometimes l will do be nil |
| 21:59.14 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt |
| 21:59.18 | nevcairiel | if l is true |
| 21:59.18 | Thrae | "if l" <-- this evaluates to true if l has a value, false if it does not |
| 21:59.20 | nevcairiel | it returns |
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| 21:59.23 | nevcairiel | if l is false |
| 21:59.25 | nevcairiel | it returns too |
| 21:59.27 | nevcairiel | never p |
| 21:59.29 | nevcairiel | :o |
| 21:59.31 | YammYgirlcoding | aaah |
| 21:59.35 | YammYgirlcoding | but but |
| 21:59.47 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: If l has no value, it goes into the else, which has "return level" |
| 21:59.53 | YammYgirlcoding | so... I... *lost* |
| 22:00.30 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm so should i do... like... what? if( l ~= nil ) ? |
| 22:00.37 | YammYgirlcoding | in order to be able to reach p if ? |
| 22:00.42 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:00.49 | nevcairiel | you need to remove the "return" calls |
| 22:00.54 | nevcairiel | or even move, not remove |
| 22:01.22 | YammYgirlcoding | but i need it to test for one string OR another, not both |
| 22:01.44 | YammYgirlcoding | if I move the return to below, it will enter both ifs which will make all never show l level |
| 22:01.46 | SynthosX | http://wowi.pastey.net/8574 |
| 22:01.52 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: Remove the else entirely and put put it below the if p |
| 22:02.31 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: Watch the magic -- |
| 22:03.37 | YammYgirlcoding | testing |
| 22:04.13 | YammYgirlcoding | SynthosX that's it. the same. all levels became 001 |
| 22:05.11 | YammYgirlcoding | it's always still entereing the else. |
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| 22:05.26 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 22:05.31 | nevcairiel | i see your problem there |
| 22:05.36 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: http://wowi.pastey.net/8577 |
| 22:05.49 | nevcairiel | it will always return when it has a line which does not match anything. |
| 22:06.09 | nevcairiel | and the first line will not match anything |
| 22:06.33 | nevcairiel | there is a flaw in the logic |
| 22:09.18 | YammYgirlcoding | nevcairiel it happens again. all lv became 001 |
| 22:09.37 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 22:10.32 | YammYgirlcoding | so its pointless still :( |
| 22:10.39 | nevcairiel | http://wowi.pastey.net/8580 |
| 22:10.41 | nevcairiel | try that |
| 22:10.48 | YammYgirlcoding | all i wanted was add a default value for the ones unmatched |
| 22:12.55 | SynthosX | aaaa! the loop |
| 22:12.57 | SynthosX | haha |
| 22:13.13 | SynthosX | yeah returning in a loop... |
| 22:13.27 | YammYgirlcoding | nevcairiel now it's not returning any level value |
| 22:13.35 | YammYgirlcoding | SynthosX loop? where? |
| 22:13.53 | nevcairiel | not any? |
| 22:13.54 | SynthosX | the for loop? |
| 22:13.54 | nevcairiel | :o |
| 22:13.56 | YammYgirlcoding | not nay |
| 22:13.58 | YammYgirlcoding | any |
| 22:14.08 | SynthosX | then the matching might not be working right |
| 22:14.17 | SynthosX | again, print out l and p before the if statement |
| 22:14.25 | YammYgirlcoding | see. when I remove the else part, all works fine |
| 22:14.33 | SynthosX | >_< |
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| 22:14.51 | nevcairiel | from your original version? |
| 22:15.36 | YammYgirlcoding | yes |
| 22:16.22 | YammYgirlcoding | it added lv and pr right, and when it didnt match any, the level passed blank |
| 22:16.53 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: What do you want to do when "Requires" is not found on a line? |
| 22:17.16 | YammYgirlcoding | i want to add a default value like lv001 |
| 22:17.37 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: The code I posted 'll do just that. |
| 22:18.52 | nevcairiel | Thrae your code has one problem tho, the first line in the loop will never have the Required thing |
| 22:18.58 | nevcairiel | but you return already then. |
| 22:20.23 | Thrae | nevcairiel: That's why I asked her what she wanted to do. She said return lv001. |
| 22:20.36 | nevcairiel | if none was found at all |
| 22:20.40 | nevcairiel | after the loop finished |
| 22:20.45 | Thrae | If she wants to do that if the entire loop doesn't find one, then just put that after the loop. |
| 22:21.42 | YammYgirlcoding | yes |
| 22:22.06 | YammYgirlcoding | but Thrae code is adding lv001 no matter what |
| 22:22.26 | Thrae | YammYgirlcoding: Put the final return in the code I gave you after the loop. Then it'll do what you want it to do. |
| 22:22.42 | Thrae | The important part of asking why your code isn't working right is to tell us exactly what you want the code to do ;) |
| 22:23.02 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm |
| 22:23.02 | decdev | is it possible to return the echantment string based on the enchantID? |
| 22:23.11 | Kaso | nope |
| 22:23.18 | nevcairiel | thats how thraes example should work like you want it http://wowi.pastey.net/8584 |
| 22:23.19 | nevcairiel | i hope |
| 22:23.22 | YammYgirlcoding | after the for Thrae ? |
| 22:23.22 | Kaso | Of wait |
| 22:23.24 | Kaso | decdev |
| 22:23.28 | nevcairiel | it could need some locals |
| 22:23.31 | nevcairiel | and stuff |
| 22:23.33 | nevcairiel | but w/e |
| 22:23.34 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:23.43 | Kaso | decdev i lie it is sort possible |
| 22:24.14 | Kaso | for enchanter done enchants you can SetItemRef("enchant:"..id) i think |
| 22:24.24 | nevcairiel | you could obviously create a lookup table for all enchants |
| 22:24.47 | decdev | yeah, I saw the list on the site.. its possible |
| 22:24.53 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:26.28 | decdev | make a little vb app to split it up and automatically parse the information into a relative case statement.. |
| 22:26.42 | decdev | that might not make sense without knowing the rest of my project |
| 22:26.43 | YammYgirlcoding | nevcairiel yay!! now it worked perfectly ! \o/ thank you very much guys!! |
| 22:27.24 | nevcairiel | that took a while :D |
| 22:28.46 | YammYgirlcoding | indeed :) it was supposed to be simple :) |
| 22:29.23 | YammYgirlcoding | okey. First addon working and up :) language paradigm is broken ;) |
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| 22:40.13 | YammYgirlcoding | I bow to you addons coders. It took me a day to figure it out a simple method changing. Imagine how long you guys have taken on really big addons. omg |
| 22:40.54 | Tain | The easier way is to keep complaining in here about something you want and wait for someone else to do it. |
| 22:41.23 | Kaso | hehe |
| 22:41.23 | YammYgirlcoding | hehe |
| 22:42.01 | YammYgirlcoding | I've complained to addon coder many times, he didn't seem to care. So I decided to do myself :) |
| 22:42.08 | YammYgirlcoding | as no one said it was impossible... :) |
| 22:43.00 | Kaso | Its hard to find motivation to write an addon you wont use yourself, thats what i find anyway |
| 22:43.44 | YammYgirlcoding | well that's a very usefull addon for the professions crafters ones :) It's annoying to have to mouseover every recipe to see their levels ;) |
| 22:43.59 | YammYgirlcoding | I do think I will put it on the web :D |
| 22:44.27 | YammYgirlcoding | as I have 6 alts, with all professions, I have some trouble on knowing what one can craft that the other can use |
| 22:45.24 | YammYgirlcoding | knowing the levels helps a lot :) |
| 22:51.46 | WobWork | >< |
| 22:51.48 | WobWork | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/looflirpa/igrill.shtml |
| 22:53.48 | decdev | is io.open() allowed in wow? |
| 22:53.59 | Cide | no |
| 22:54.11 | nevcairiel | everything io is blocked |
| 22:54.15 | Cide | io and os and debug are not exposed |
| 22:54.31 | decdev | how does one write to a file then? |
| 22:54.37 | Cide | you don't |
| 22:55.26 | WobWork | You can write to a savedvariable file |
| 22:55.27 | decdev | theres mods that do... |
| 22:55.32 | WobWork | but that's only on /rl or quit |
| 22:55.36 | Cide | what WobWork said |
| 22:55.46 | Cide | I'm off to bed so I don't have time to explain! later |
| 22:55.46 | decdev | ah ok. |
| 22:55.55 | decdev | where do I find info on that? |
| 22:55.57 | decdev | thanks :) |
| 22:56.12 | WobWork | hm, there's a wowwiki link.... |
| 22:56.57 | WobWork | basically, though, you put a line in your toc to indiciate the variable name you want to use, and put values into that variable, and it'll save the variable to a savedvariable file on quit |
| 22:57.30 | WobWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
| 22:58.57 | decdev | awesome, thanks |
| 23:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | uugh |
| 23:04.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was a terrible terrible group |
| 23:04.30 | Kaso | Do tell |
| 23:04.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | priest was afk most of the run i (a shaman) was tanking, people wouldn't listen when i said stay out of melee range of the slimes (maraudon) |
| 23:05.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of finding a tank it was 4 dps classes and me |
| 23:05.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 23:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3, a shadow priest who was afk, and me |
| 23:05.21 | Kaso | hehe |
| 23:05.27 | YammYgirlcoding | guys what these letters stands for? It colors the SOMETEXT to purple on addons list. But I see no color reference to this. It looks like an odd hexadecimal |cffa335eeSOMETEXT|r |
| 23:05.42 | Kaso | |c = color |
| 23:05.48 | Kaso | ff= alpha (in hex_ |
| 23:05.53 | Kaso | a3 red in hex |
| 23:05.58 | SynthosX | the a hex color |
| 23:05.58 | Kaso | 35 green in hex |
| 23:05.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got 10 minutes in and died while the other 3 party members (other than the rogue) were just sitting around afk |
| 23:06.03 | Kaso | ee blue in hex |
| 23:06.05 | YammYgirlcoding | aaaah |
| 23:06.09 | YammYgirlcoding | now makes sense :) |
| 23:06.17 | Kaso | and |r means reset |
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| 23:06.35 | YammYgirlcoding | what is alpha color for? bg color of text? |
| 23:06.42 | Thrae | |cAARRGGBBtext|r <-- Alpha, Red, Green, Blue |
| 23:06.51 | nevcairiel | alpha is the transparency |
| 23:06.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | the rogue and i were the only two people there mentally, which is a decent change |
| 23:07.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | alpha is transparency...i think |
| 23:07.09 | Thrae | Alpha should always be FF, since other values don't really do anything in normal circumstances. |
| 23:07.20 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm question answered :) |
| 23:07.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could be way off but that's what it is in pngs and stuff, i'd imagine it'd be the same for font color in hex |
| 23:08.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10 minutes in that terrible group and i just exited wow |
| 23:08.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe |
| 23:08.51 | Thrae | What's some good horror for 2005-2006? |
| 23:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | define good |
| 23:09.14 | Thrae | Not campy / B |
| 23:09.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually watch horror for the campfest |
| 23:09.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | there isn't any hehe |
| 23:09.37 | Kaso | I had a group today which had a reduclously undergeared tank for last boss in ramparts, level 59 with like 5.5k armor or something >.< but with carefully timed shield wall, and speed trinket + 1.5sec Greater heals from me we killed the boss |
| 23:09.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | the descent was pretty good i guess |
| 23:09.50 | Kaso | i was proud if my little 59 warrior friend he did good |
| 23:09.51 | decdev | Im still not clear on how to get data into a saved variable |
| 23:10.33 | Kaso | decdev you simple save the data you want to a global variable, then add that variabl's name to your TOC's ##savedvariable line |
| 23:10.45 | Kaso | then when the UI is restarted its magically saved |
| 23:10.57 | decdev | but how do I tell it what data to save there |
| 23:11.05 | Kaso | Variable = data? |
| 23:11.20 | decdev | savedvar = data |
| 23:11.25 | decdev | so its that simple |
| 23:11.42 | YammYgirlcoding | oh. colored addon titles do go to the end of the list? :((( |
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| 23:12.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kaso, i had a hard time tanking him in 15000 armor :[ |
| 23:13.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again all the armor in the world won't help on that guy really |
| 23:13.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | the dragon drops down and nukes the hell out me |
| 23:13.37 | Kaso | the tank died ofc, but the shield wall + spamheal + time it took for dragon to kill me was enough for the dps to kill him |
| 23:13.51 | Thrae | That dragon is insane |
| 23:14.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd kill and eat a puppy for shield wall in bear form :x |
| 23:14.08 | Kaso | hah |
| 23:14.12 | Kaso | it is awesome skill |
| 23:14.16 | Thrae | Does Shield Wall block spells? |
| 23:14.18 | Kaso | yah |
| 23:14.22 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 23:14.44 | Thrae | Yeah, most of the Dragon's damage is from his Fire effects, hence why everyone dies so easily to him |
| 23:14.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid versus caster means he's gonna get his ass kicked generally |
| 23:14.49 | Kaso | See one thing im noticing now leveling my char to 70 compared to on the beta is Pugs are really hard, mainly because 90% of people in the beta were raiders with BWl/AQ/NAxx loot |
| 23:15.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of my pugs have been relatively easy with groups with people in them that speak english mostly |
| 23:15.20 | Thrae | Dragon needs to be nerfed, Demon needs to be buffed |
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| 23:15.38 | Kaso | i argee with that |
| 23:15.51 | Fumler | anyone know where I can get dongle? |
| 23:15.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again i'm awesome so i boost the group's average likelyhood of winning by like 50% |
| 23:16.01 | cladhaire | as a developer, or user? |
| 23:16.03 | Thrae | ~dongle |
| 23:16.05 | purl | [dongle] An integrated library with the goal of providing an addon framework as lightweight as possible, putting the burden on authors to implement most things they should be implementing themselves. You can get more information at http://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle |
| 23:16.05 | cladhaire | Fumler: as a dev, or user? |
| 23:16.06 | Fumler | user |
| 23:16.12 | cladhaire | you don't need it as a user |
| 23:16.16 | Fumler | need it to use oUF |
| 23:16.21 | cladhaire | and if you do, i'll bitchslap the developer =) |
| 23:16.28 | cladhaire | let me yell at haste then, brb |
| 23:16.35 | Kaso | hehe |
| 23:16.42 | Fumler | He's sleeping, and its not a released version |
| 23:16.52 | Thrae | haste probably mixed up Dependencies and OptionalDeps ;) |
| 23:16.55 | cladhaire | any idea which version it uses? |
| 23:17.08 | cladhaire | it'd be like DongleStub("Dongle-Beta0"):New("oUF") |
| 23:17.14 | cladhaire | whats the "Dongle-Beta0" in the addon? |
| 23:17.18 | cladhaire | i can get you the version you need |
| 23:17.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | undastand undastand undastand undastand the concept the concept of love |
| 23:17.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't get this song out of my head |
| 23:17.34 | Fumler | think its beta1 |
| 23:17.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i haven't played jet set radio in like 5 years now :[ |
| 23:17.56 | Fumler | libs\Dongle.lua |
| 23:17.56 | Fumler | libs\DongleUtils.lua |
| 23:18.04 | Fumler | all the info i got :b |
| 23:18.04 | Kaso | pastamancer: thats an awesome game |
| 23:18.19 | cladhaire | Fumler: If you have the code, you have more than that. |
| 23:18.32 | Fumler | ## OptionalDeps: Dongle |
| 23:18.48 | Fumler | But its not working now, so I guess its a required dep |
| 23:18.49 | cladhaire | yes, and there's no libs folder? |
| 23:18.58 | Fumler | there is a libs folder but no libs |
| 23:19.04 | cladhaire | well i need to know what version |
| 23:19.08 | cladhaire | in the main .lua file |
| 23:19.11 | cladhaire | look for what i said above. |
| 23:19.17 | cladhaire | it will give me the information i need |
| 23:19.32 | Corrodias | poor rabies |
| 23:19.36 | Corrodias | playing a shaman. i sympathize. :( |
| 23:19.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 23:19.47 | Fumler | local addon = DongleStub('Dongle-Beta1'):New('oUF') |
| 23:19.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | why they're fun :O |
| 23:20.22 | cladhaire | then you can download Dongle.lua and DongleUtils.lua from here http://dongle.googlecode.com/svn/tags/Dongle-Beta1-r252/ |
| 23:20.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can do everything at once, the lack of my abilities being walled in by form is liberating |
| 23:20.42 | Corrodias | :) |
| 23:20.48 | Corrodias | i was kidding, though; i love shamans |
| 23:21.02 | Fumler | cladhaire, thanks. Should I use my svn client? Or can I just download from firefox? |
| 23:21.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell yesterday i dragged a group through zf on mine |
| 23:21.11 | cladhaire | Fumler: You can just download the files from firefox |
| 23:21.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | level 49, top of every meter, heh |
| 23:21.15 | cladhaire | that sa tag,not a working copy |
| 23:21.15 | Fumler | k |
| 23:21.31 | Thrae | Fumler: Just download Dongle, make it a separate addon, and oUF will load it. I just checked its TOC file |
| 23:21.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | with a 50 mage and 49 rogue in the party |
| 23:21.42 | cladhaire | Thrae: no, that won't work |
| 23:21.48 | cladhaire | there can only be one Dongle addon |
| 23:21.54 | Fumler | I have 0 atm |
| 23:21.55 | cladhaire | and Clique and perfectraid, for example, use Dongle-Beta0 at the moment. |
| 23:22.01 | cladhaire | so do what i said, please =) |
| 23:22.04 | Corrodias | there can be ONLY ONE! >:o |
| 23:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | <@cladhaire> there can only be one |
| 23:22.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | doh |
| 23:22.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr beat me to it |
| 23:22.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 23:22.16 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 23:22.18 | Fumler | Im using perfectraid tho |
| 23:22.24 | cladhaire | Fumler: Then do what I suggested |
| 23:22.30 | cladhaire | download and put those in your libs folder |
| 23:22.31 | Thrae | cladhaire: He can download Dongle-Beta0 and make it its own addon. oUF has Dongle in its OptionalDeps. |
| 23:22.31 | Corrodias | so i've been thinking |
| 23:22.39 | Fumler | libs\Dongle\ ? |
| 23:22.50 | cladhaire | no, libs\dongle.lua and libs\DongleUtils.lua |
| 23:22.55 | Fumler | k |
| 23:23.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know what happens when you think corr |
| 23:23.27 | Corrodias | i wonder if it would be worthwhile to drop herbalism and skinning on my druid, my main, and pick up engineering (mainly for the trinkets with lots of +stamina) and mining (to feed engineering and procure gems) |
| 23:23.50 | Corrodias | although i'd have to buy the rest of the available bank slots and bags for them. hmm. |
| 23:24.03 | Kaso | everyone i know says eng sucks |
| 23:24.10 | Kaso | and how can you not have every bank slot?! |
| 23:24.15 | Fumler | Have to check if it works now, brb. |
| 23:24.37 | Corrodias | blizzard says they're going to improve it, but besides that, the "tanking gear" thread rated the trinkets with +45 stamina as the most useful tanking trinkets |
| 23:25.18 | Fumler | yay its working ;) |
| 23:25.21 | Fumler | thanks cladhaire |
| 23:25.24 | cladhaire | np |
| 23:25.35 | Corrodias | and i have gotten away with not having all the bank slots by having approximately zero significant alts and one bank alt |
| 23:27.59 | Corrodias | i really want those trinkets, and i really want to be able to find gems since i can't get anything from skinning that will sell any more |
| 23:28.21 | Corrodias | i can't imagine grinding both professions up to max is a pleasant experience, though |
| 23:29.24 | WobWork | eng sucks =( |
| 23:29.31 | WobWork | I dropped it for blacksmithing =\ |
| 23:31.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | engineering's not a great idea for druids corr |
| 23:31.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | despite one or two good trinkets |
| 23:31.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | the rest of the profession is nigh useless |
| 23:31.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | since we can't use bombs, etc in forms |
| 23:32.26 | Thrae | The usefulness of Engineering with Burning Crusade is fify |
| 23:32.34 | Thrae | s/fify/iffy |
| 23:32.34 | WobWork | hehe |
| 23:32.35 | WobWork | fiffy |
| 23:32.37 | cladhaire | zomg patch 2.1.0 fixes it |
| 23:32.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially for druids |
| 23:32.48 | WobWork | druidbombing? |
| 23:32.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want 2.1 on the freaking ptr |
| 23:32.50 | WobWork | Fixed? |
| 23:32.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | rawarwarawrawrawrawrw |
| 23:33.02 | WobWork | They give druids opposible thumbs in the patch? |
| 23:33.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to see how they decided to break us again :x |
| 23:33.25 | Thrae | But I still use the Net, Goblin Rocket Helmet, and Chicken extensively at 59 |
| 23:33.38 | ZealotOnAStick | and where's the slightest bit of indication the "leaked" 2.1.0 notes are real? Those parse as excessively wishful thinking and fake to me. |
| 23:34.27 | Thrae | In PvP, that is. For PvE, I'd stick with Engineering JUST for the Jumper Cables. |
| 23:34.51 | WobWork | I know |
| 23:34.55 | Corrodias | bleh |
| 23:34.57 | WobWork | I miss my jumper cables =( |
| 23:35.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | ZealotOnAStick, any idea where the 'leaked' ones are? |
| 23:35.14 | WobWork | All over the floor? =\ |
| 23:35.15 | Thrae | People laugh at the Jumper Cables, but it's just getting a high crit chance -- a decent chance is far, far better then no chance at all |
| 23:35.21 | Corrodias | still, i wonder if i should drop skinning for engineering, since i no longer need leather for anything and i absolutely cannot sell clefthoof leather or fel hides |
| 23:35.22 | WobWork | It's true |
| 23:35.48 | WobWork | Corrodias: You'd be better off dropping it for mining |
| 23:35.49 | snurre | imo *everyone* needs herbing for PvE, sadly.. can't rely on others farming your shit |
| 23:35.54 | decdev | this channel has been very helpful. thank you. |
| 23:35.54 | Thrae | Jewelcrafting Trinkets look a little interesting, but I still think they suck for the investment |
| 23:36.01 | snurre | and most have a crafting profession to use an item or a set |
| 23:36.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i honestly wouldn't corr, not as a druid |
| 23:36.10 | WobWork | Cause mining... |
| 23:36.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | engineering's way too much effort to level for a couple useful items for us |
| 23:36.16 | Corrodias | oops |
| 23:36.17 | Corrodias | i mean mining |
| 23:36.22 | WobWork | I certainly wouldn't want to have engineering and -not- mining |
| 23:36.31 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Easier then Jewelcrafting |
| 23:36.32 | WobWork | cause jesus, the prices needed for mats =\ |
| 23:36.34 | Corrodias | i might have a chance at selling things if i took mining, and i might get some gems |
| 23:36.37 | WobWork | yeah |
| 23:36.45 | WobWork | And metals sell fairly well |
| 23:36.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least druids can make use of a lot of jewelcrafting, thrae |
| 23:36.58 | Corrodias | this is striking me as not a bad idea |
| 23:37.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | we can't use 95% of the stuff we make in engineering |
| 23:37.05 | Thrae | 90% of Jewelcrafting is BoE though |
| 23:37.10 | Corrodias | you could if you were moonkin |
| 23:37.16 | [dRaCo] | knothide leather sells great on my server |
| 23:37.30 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Depends on the way you play |
| 23:37.40 | Corrodias | that's the only thing i can skin that will sell, and it's not for a lot of money |
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| 23:37.57 | Thrae | Shift out, drop a daze bomb, shift back, run away w/ flag |
| 23:38.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | being in caster form is a way to a quick death, and i forgot moonkin could use inventory items |
| 23:38.36 | Corrodias | owlbears apparently know how to push buttons where regular bears cannot |
| 23:38.56 | [dRaCo] | they go for like 10g/20 leather here, which makes farming phase hunters pretty great :D |
| 23:39.01 | Thrae | Owlbears stand upright and have thumbs ;) |
| 23:39.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never understood why we couldn't use items in forms |
| 23:39.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | or why they took away our ability to use chests |
| 23:39.31 | WobWork | Lack of opposible thumbs =P |
| 23:39.43 | WobWork | It makes physical sense =) |
| 23:39.56 | Corrodias | we can skin in flight form. better nerf that. |
| 23:39.56 | Thrae | Realistically, a cat or bear cannot pop open a bottle of healing |
| 23:39.56 | WobWork | Otherwise the cats would have taken over the world by now |
| 23:39.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah but we can shoot nature's wrath out of our hands and turn into bears |
| 23:40.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | trying to bring reality into a fantasy game isn't the greatest idea :x |
| 23:40.21 | Thrae | It's one of the design decisions |
| 23:40.22 | WobWork | Thrae: They just chew the whole thing in one bite |
| 23:40.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Bleeter (n=Bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 23:40.31 | WobWork | The healing takes care of the glass shards |
| 23:40.46 | Thrae | WobWork: Owh I gobt gwass in mah teeth! |
| 23:40.49 | WobWork | *CRUNCHCRUNCH* |
| 23:40.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | because then we'd also have to consider us being able to eat our prey after we killed them, drink from rivers, etc |
| 23:41.19 | WobWork | I don't see why you can't skin in animal form |
| 23:41.23 | WobWork | That's what your claws are for |
| 23:41.25 | cladhaire | you can |
| 23:41.30 | Corrodias | indeed you can |
| 23:41.32 | Corrodias | even in flight form |
| 23:41.33 | WobWork | That's what I mean |
| 23:41.43 | WobWork | You could logically skin in animal form |
| 23:41.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Mr_Rabies: Curse |
| 23:41.46 | WobWork | or dig for herbs |
| 23:41.48 | Corrodias | flight form can't pick flowers BUT WE CAN SURE SKIN THINGS |
| 23:41.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus the lapidis tankard of tidesippe works in forms :D |
| 23:41.54 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. I submited my addon to ui.worldofwar.net , it says the upload was successfull, but I can't find the addon on search on on my uploaded mods. Does it need any moderator to check it first? |
| 23:42.17 | WobWork | YammYgirlcoding: You'd be better off asking one of the mods on ui.wow.net |
| 23:42.21 | cladhaire | YammYgirlcoding: there are no ui.worldofwar mods here at the moment, only wowinterface.com |
| 23:42.50 | YammYgirlcoding | all of you post on wowinterface? |
| 23:42.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm afraid to use anything other than wowi these days |
| 23:43.15 | WobWork | YammYgirlcoding: This is the wowinterface irc channel =) |
| 23:43.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and curse, with adblock and noscript :p |
| 23:43.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | sites that abuse the hell out of ajax are fun with noscript on |
| 23:43.44 | YammYgirlcoding | oh :) |
| 23:43.56 | WobWork | Thrae: Hehe if the chances of getting 'ruined leather' while skinning in animal form, that would be amusing =) |
| 23:44.14 | WobWork | (nb: Grammar not included in last statement. Contents may settle during transport) |
| 23:44.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | and why can't cat druids lockpick |
| 23:44.36 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Rogues gotta be good for SOMETHING in a group :D |
| 23:44.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're gonna bring reality into this why can't we use our claws to pick locks :O |
| 23:44.55 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Seriously, can YOU pick locks? |
| 23:44.57 | WobWork | Mr_Rabies: Have you ever tried to pick a lock? |
| 23:45.05 | WobWork | claws just won't cut it =P |
| 23:45.12 | Thrae | It's not about the equipment, it's about the skill. Why would nature freaks care about locks? |
| 23:45.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i have |
| 23:45.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we're talking about medival style locks, not masterlocks |
| 23:45.29 | WobWork | There's no way you could get enough torque with a claw -and- pick the pins =P |
| 23:45.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can pick the simple locks in a matter of seconds |
| 23:45.49 | WobWork | With a fingernail? =) |
| 23:46.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | no because i'm not a freak with cat claws |
| 23:46.04 | WobWork | heeh |
| 23:46.10 | WobWork | well you never know, nowadays |
| 23:46.14 | Thrae | Cat Druids would have to be taught how to pick locks, and there's no reason for Druids to KNOW how to pick locks. They're not scouts and theives, like Rogues. They are Holy men. |
| 23:46.23 | WobWork | You could all be cats for all I know =\ |
| 23:46.27 | WobWork | Except clad |
| 23:46.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're not holy, perse, thrae |
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| 23:46.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | their main goal is keeping nature in line |
| 23:46.57 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: They are Holy Men, where Holy == non-specific faith |
| 23:47.20 | Thrae | Druids are more akin to Shamans then Shamans are ;) |
| 23:47.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | picking a lock isn't exactly harming azeroth in any way :o |
| 23:47.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell why can't we just moonfire the damn lock off :p |
| 23:47.55 | Thrae | Hence why Shamans are part Druid with their Restoration tree |
| 23:48.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | shamans are part spiritwalker with their resto tree :p |
| 23:48.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids are part keeper of the grove with their resto tree |
| 23:49.13 | Thrae | Shamans are a Fighter/Druid hybrid, Paladins are a Fighter/Priest hybrid |
| 23:49.37 | Thrae | Both share 1 tree from Druid, Priest |
| 23:49.50 | Thrae | Well the name of it anyway, as well as a talent or two |
| 23:50.04 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm in wow interface site it says I don't have permission to upload mod |
| 23:50.19 | YammYgirlcoding | : p |
| 23:52.39 | *** join/#wowi-lounge qw` (n=qw@173.81-167-153.customer.lyse.net) |
| 23:54.08 | cladhaire | YammYgirlcoding: Did you make an account? |
| 23:55.16 | YammYgirlcoding | i'm logged |
| 23:55.43 | YammYgirlcoding | on 'select an upload category' it just shows ------------- |
| 23:55.56 | YammYgirlcoding | does it works on firefox? |
| 23:55.58 | cladhaire | whats the username? |
| 23:55.59 | cladhaire | yes it do |
| 23:56.02 | YammYgirlcoding | yammy |
| 23:56.19 | YammYgirlcoding | I clicked anyway and it says i have no permission to upload :p |
| 23:57.02 | cladhaire | hrm, Cairenn|afk may be able to help you |
| 23:57.06 | cladhaire | i only have lmited powers =) |
| 23:57.53 | YammYgirlcoding | :( why everything gets to be hard when it's for me :p |
| 23:58.12 | cladhaire | i'd try logging out, then loggin back in |
| 23:58.24 | cladhaire | you've activated your account (i dont remember if you get an email to activate tbh) |
| 23:59.40 | YammYgirlcoding | I think it's activated cause I can actually log in |
| 23:59.45 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm sure people have come across these, but these are (probably fake) 2.1.0 patch notes http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10364 |
