| 00:00.37 | TC_Working | hmm...Depends for Computers |
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| 00:12.04 | kneeki | *wave* |
| 00:14.00 | kneeki | Anyone have any idea how I can go about adjusting the alpha of the 'dark cooldown clock' deals? -_- |
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| 00:16.32 | Kaso | you mean the animation that happens on the buttons when they cooldown? |
| 00:16.32 | kneeki | Yep |
| 00:17.08 | Kaso | should be able to |
| 00:17.14 | Kaso | you want to make it darker or lighter? |
| 00:17.19 | kneeki | Lighter |
| 00:18.08 | Kaso | lemme check my FrameXML but i think that the cooldown is just a child of the actionbutton which you can set alpha on indepently |
| 00:18.24 | kneeki | A perfect example of my problem would be if you adjusted the Alpha of the main menu bar (blizzards) all the way down to say 0, so its fully transparant, then you would still be able to see just those 'blocks' that are on cooldown. |
| 00:19.01 | Kaso | ohoh |
| 00:19.02 | kneeki | Well, the FrameNameXXCooldown you can adjust easily enough. However, it only affects the numbers, not the dark area |
| 00:19.18 | Kaso | i have a memory coming back to me |
| 00:19.32 | Kaso | i think that the Cooldown was bugged so it didnt accept alpha at all |
| 00:19.44 | kneeki | Oh no kidding? |
| 00:19.46 | kneeki | Ouch |
| 00:19.51 | Kaso | im not totally sure |
| 00:20.12 | Kaso | but i remeber some guy wanting to show/hide the cooldowns in combat (by alpha) and he couldnt work out why it didnt work |
| 00:20.21 | Kaso | and he found a post in the forums that it was a bug |
| 00:20.31 | Kaso | but i would have thought it was fixed by now that was a while ago |
| 00:20.33 | kneeki | If you use Devtools and mouse over a button on cooldown, you will see (in the framestack) table: randomdigits |
| 00:21.27 | Kaso | The cooldown shouldn't be anonymous, in the blizzard xml its $parentCooldown |
| 00:21.30 | kneeki | i was thinking of adjusting the 'table'. However, I have no idea how. I'm not that familiar with it =\ |
| 00:21.46 | Kaso | i think that table might be something else |
| 00:21.52 | kneeki | Yah, $parentXXCooldown is the numbers, not the dark area |
| 00:22.01 | Kaso | numbers? |
| 00:22.19 | kneeki | yeah, the time until the ability is ready to use again (60 seconds for example) |
| 00:22.29 | Kaso | that isnt part of the default UI is it? |
| 00:22.41 | kneeki | Hmm, I thought it was |
| 00:22.50 | kneeki | I use default .... Oh |
| 00:22.55 | dukeku | hy the abort? |
| 00:22.56 | dukeku | er |
| 00:22.58 | kneeki | I use that OmniCooldown thing I think |
| 00:23.01 | kneeki | dang nabbit |
| 00:23.08 | Kaso | yah |
| 00:23.11 | kneeki | Hmm |
| 00:23.19 | Kaso | and the reason they fade is because they are children of the cooldown |
| 00:23.25 | Kaso | and the cooldown doesnt fade cos its bugged |
| 00:23.29 | kneeki | Ah |
| 00:23.30 | Kaso | makes sense |
| 00:23.34 | kneeki | Yep, it does now =) |
| 00:23.39 | kneeki | *bow* |
| 00:23.50 | Kaso | You might wanna post about it in upcoming 2.1 changes, ask if the fix is in the patch |
| 00:23.56 | kneeki | I will |
| 00:25.58 | kneeki | posted -_- |
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| 00:27.51 | Kaso | Might i suggest a re-wording that might get Slouken's attention better? |
| 00:28.03 | kneeki | .... I was thinking that also |
| 00:28.14 | kneeki | However, I have not had nearly enough coffee yet |
| 00:28.42 | Kaso | Will the "Cooldown" Frame type be fixed in 2.1 so that it correctly uses the alpha given to it? |
| 00:29.17 | kneeki | lol there, edited |
| 00:31.43 | Kaso | he |
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| 00:50.18 | Nom- | lol |
| 00:50.29 | kneeki | O.o |
| 00:50.47 | Nom- | Alaska Department of Revenue lost 800,000 images that were scanned in because someone can't l2backup |
| 00:51.11 | Nom- | They had to (over the course of months) re-scan 300 cardboard boxes full of documents |
| 00:51.14 | kneeki | Hah, yeah. i read that on Slashdot and Digg |
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| 01:20.37 | YammYgirlcoding | hello everyone! |
| 01:20.45 | kneeki | *wave* |
| 01:20.48 | Kaso | evening |
| 01:21.20 | YammYgirlcoding | guys, does anyone has seen this issue: for one specific char, the ui hangs after 5 seconds of logging in. |
| 01:21.47 | kneeki | Have you tried disabiling all addons? |
| 01:22.08 | YammYgirlcoding | it's odd because I have the same addons enables for other chars |
| 01:22.17 | YammYgirlcoding | isnt it supposed to hang on all chars? |
| 01:22.21 | kneeki | Nah |
| 01:22.32 | kneeki | Most likely some profile setting an addon is using I'd think |
| 01:22.43 | kneeki | disable them one by one to find the culprit |
| 01:22.47 | YammYgirlcoding | the only difference i see is the professions, that this char have bs and eng which have many recipes. |
| 01:24.09 | YammYgirlcoding | but how come one addon can hang one char and not all others? |
| 01:24.43 | kneeki | My guess is that one of the addons is using profiles to save its settings, and that one addon that's doing it is causing the problem |
| 01:25.07 | kneeki | You could also try renaming your WTF folder and logging in |
| 01:25.13 | kneeki | see if it continues |
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| 01:42.12 | Shadowed | Anyone happen to have done moving of the capture bars before? |
| 01:42.23 | kneeki | Capture bars? |
| 01:42.53 | Shadowed | The little bars that show up on the right of the screen below the minimap, they show up in EoTS and world PvP when capturing a tower/node |
| 01:43.12 | kneeki | Oh |
| 01:43.30 | kneeki | I don't see why they would be too much of a pain to move once you have the name |
| 01:43.45 | Shadowed | They are |
| 01:43.57 | kneeki | Oh? |
| 01:44.00 | kneeki | Do they reset? |
| 01:44.41 | Shadowed | Can't just make WorldStateCaptureBar1 movable, the next update it messes up in positioning and different blocks spread out, so was seeing if anyones done it before before I start digging around to find out why |
| 01:45.32 | Shadowed | ah guess UIParent_ManageFramePositions causes it |
| 01:45.50 | kneeki | Well, FuBar can move the minimap, player, and target frames. If you can figure out how they do it I'm sure you can use the same method. Also, I think if you just use an OnUpdate script you can just set the frame location every update *shrugs* |
| 01:46.16 | kneeki | I'm not sure how much processing 'n so forth, but I doubt its much |
| 01:46.36 | Shadowed | Naw i'll just secure hook ManageFramePositions and make all the capture bars parent to #1 and the #1 one to UIParent |
| 01:47.05 | kneeki | That works too ;) |
| 01:47.13 | kneeki | I've never used secure hooking before |
| 01:47.50 | Nom- | leeeeeeeeeeeeroyyyyyyyyyy jeeeeeeeeeeeenkins |
| 01:47.54 | Shadowed | ~lart Nom- |
| 01:48.10 | kneeki | O.o |
| 01:48.14 | Nom- | Now that i've got your attention... |
| 01:49.25 | kneeki | RTM as in Release to Manufacture? |
| 01:49.38 | kneeki | *shrug* |
| 01:49.58 | Nom- | It's missing an 'F' |
| 01:50.01 | Nom- | It should be RTFM |
| 01:50.11 | Thunder_Child | Really Tiny Martians |
| 01:50.16 | kneeki | lol |
| 01:50.28 | Nom- | purl: rtfm ? |
| 01:50.39 | purl | i heard rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
| 01:50.54 | kneeki | Ah |
| 01:50.59 | kneeki | lol, it makes sence |
| 01:52.31 | kneeki | Grrrr!!!! |
| 01:52.38 | kneeki | I hate Vista so much! |
| 01:52.58 | Nom- | Vista is the devil's spawn |
| 01:53.00 | kneeki | It keeps locking my files, and putting them in use so I cannot delete/rename/remove them =\ |
| 01:53.02 | Nom- | You should format now |
| 01:53.05 | kneeki | It's driving me NUTS |
| 01:53.21 | kneeki | I cannot reformat =( |
| 01:53.29 | Nom- | hehehehehehehehehehehe |
| 01:53.30 | Thunder_Child | hmm..havent had a single problem with vista yet |
| 01:53.36 | kneeki | I have to use it, so I can give tech support on it since no vendors sell XP systems anymore *crys* |
| 01:53.37 | Thunder_Child | wait, i take that back, just one |
| 01:54.23 | Thunder_Child | ~bitchslap Nom- |
| 01:54.27 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Nom- |
| 01:54.40 | Nom- | lol |
| 01:54.57 | Nom- | You know the one i'm talkinga bout? |
| 01:55.10 | Thunder_Child | the joke? |
| 01:55.16 | Nom- | Yea |
| 01:55.22 | Thunder_Child | No....thankfully |
| 01:55.28 | Nom- | Ah, it's a good one |
| 01:55.50 | Nom- | A guy walks into a bar and orders a drink. The bartender notices the man has a steering wheel down his pants. |
| 01:56.00 | Nom- | He asks, "Doesn't that thing annoy you?" |
| 01:56.12 | Nom- | The man replies, "Yeah, it's driving me nuts" |
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| 01:56.43 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleslap Nom- |
| 01:56.47 | purl | ACTION beats Nom- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 01:56.51 | Nom- | C |
| 01:56.56 | Nom- | C'mon it wasn't THAT bad :P |
| 01:57.13 | Thunder_Child | it could have been wors...but why tempt fate |
| 01:57.20 | Thunder_Child | s/wors/worse/ |
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| 02:06.50 | Nom- | lol |
| 02:06.52 | Nom- | "Well you see, Norm, it's like this...A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain ce |
| 02:10.26 | Nom- | What do you call 500 lawyers sitting on the bottom of the ocean? |
| 02:10.40 | Nom- | A good start! |
| 02:10.49 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 02:11.08 | Nom- | Welcome, Cairenn :) |
| 02:11.55 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 02:16.30 | JoshBorke | hola! |
| 02:16.34 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 02:16.48 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn |
| 02:17.55 | Nom- | Just gitta mkae it throught the next 5.5 hours of work first |
| 02:22.26 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 02:22.36 | purl | ACTION jumps into JoshBorke's lap and huggles and *hugs* JoshBorke |
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| 03:13.26 | Legorol | How many Arcane Dusts do you get on average from disenchanting lvl 60+ Outland greens? |
| 03:14.31 | Nom- | 2-3 i bwelieve |
| 03:14.33 | Nom- | *believe |
| 03:15.18 | Legorol | is it always at least 2? |
| 03:15.29 | Nom- | It's random |
| 03:15.43 | Legorol | If I have green items that won't AH well, am I better off vendoring it, or disenchanting it? |
| 03:15.49 | Legorol | If i want to get hold of some dust.. |
| 03:16.02 | Legorol | current going rate of dust on my realm is 1.8g |
| 03:16.17 | Nom- | Depends really |
| 03:16.27 | Nom- | It's random from 2-5 from what i can see |
| 03:16.47 | Nom- | depends on the ilevel of the item |
| 03:16.57 | Nom- | Even the lowest level stuff appears to give at least 2 |
| 03:17.10 | Nom- | You've also got a chance of getting Lesser Planar Essence etc |
| 03:17.26 | Nom- | ok here we go |
| 03:17.32 | Nom- | The lowest level greens in Outland give 1-2 |
| 03:17.59 | Nom- | Level 57 greens from outland give 2-3 |
| 03:18.37 | Nom- | ilvl 120 items give 2-5 |
| 03:19.16 | Nom- | Given an item usch as that would sell for 4g50s to the vendor, you have to do the math |
| 03:19.55 | Nom- | When it comes to DE, I generally go for Green Armor = DE, Green Weapons = Vendor |
| 03:22.46 | Nom- | mmmmmm someone has some really yummy food here today |
| 03:22.56 | Nom- | *gnaws on own arm* |
| 03:23.04 | Nom- | brb going to get some food |
| 03:26.40 | Shadowed | Is there a way to stop the game from managing a frame in UIParent_ManageFramePositions without having to hook it and block the calls? |
| 03:27.11 | Iriel | Remove the global? |
| 03:27.44 | Shadowed | I can't, if I remove NUM_EXTENDED_UI_FRAMES then the game thinks it never created it and then creates another |
| 03:27.52 | Iriel | Ah |
| 03:28.00 | Shadowed | although |
| 03:30.34 | Shadowed | Setting WORLD_PVP_OBJECTIVES_DISPLAY to "0" and to NUM_EXTENDED_UI_FRAMES then restoring it when i'm done moving stops it from trying to update them which works I suppose. |
| 03:31.10 | Shadowed | er, and NUM_EXTENDED_UI_FRAMES to 0 |
| 03:33.22 | Iriel | Only possible problem there is you'd taint NUM_EXTENDED_UI_FRAMES |
| 03:33.26 | Iriel | but that may be a non-issue |
| 03:33.31 | Shadowed | That doesn't work anyway =/ |
| 03:34.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry 2g repair cost at 50 |
| 03:34.43 | Shadowed | I need to either stop WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame_Update or UIParent_ManageFramePositions from running. I can't change NUM_EXTENDED_UI_FRAMES because then the game thinks it never created any and makes a new non-working one. I can't use WORLD_PVP_OBJECTIVES_DISPLAY and setting that to "0" to force it to stop updating because it has some logic saying to always show/update them when inside a PvP (BG/Arena) Instance |
| 03:35.22 | Shadowed | Only way I could think of to prevent it from running is to hook GetNumWorldStateUI() and make it return 0 when trying to move, but thats fairly hacky |
| 03:36.00 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 03:36.06 | Shadowed | actualllly one more thing I could try |
| 03:37.13 | Shadowed | Nope, can't set ExtendedUI["CAPTUREPOINT"].update = CaptureBar_Update; |
| 03:37.37 | Shadowed | er, can't set ExtendedUI["CAPTUREPOINT"].update to a blank function either....don't think it's possible to stop the call without a regular hook which would cause taint. |
| 03:38.22 | Iriel | Can't you just hook the function and undo whatever it just did each time it does it? |
| 03:39.32 | Shadowed | Wouldn't hooking and unhooking WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame_Update, UIParent_ManageFramePositions or GetNumWorldStateUI cause taint? Trying to make something to move the capture bars but the game tries to update and reposition them fairly often so it messes them up |
| 03:39.40 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 03:39.50 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn and suddenly hugs Cairenn tightly |
| 03:39.50 | JoshBorke | night all |
| 03:39.50 | Cairenn | night josh |
| 03:39.59 | cladhaire | ~lick Cairenn |
| 03:40.02 | purl | ACTION licks Cairenn *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 03:40.32 | Iriel | Shadowed: Use hooksecurefunc, never unhook it, just ignore the call if you dont need it |
| 03:41.07 | Shadowed | Sorry was a bit confusing in trying to describe it. |
| 03:42.28 | Shadowed | Right now when I do WorldStateCaptureBar1:StartMoving() the user can drag and reposition it fine, however if UPDATE_WORLD_STATES is fired during the drag it will either jump to where it originally was due to UIParent_ManageFramePositions positioning it below the MinimapCluster, or the frame will "split" and you'll get a bunch of the textures moving around and basically making it so you can't use the capture bar. |
| 03:42.48 | Shadowed | Calling UnregisterEvent causes taint too right? |
| 03:43.06 | Iriel | No |
| 03:45.16 | Shadowed | ahh though it did. Well that stops everything from updating including PvP Objectives, but thats the best I can do to stop the game from trying to update it. Thanks |
| 03:51.52 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep, sweet dreams |
| 03:51.57 | clad|sleep | night |
| 03:57.16 | Iriel | I still thing you may be better off letting the game update it but put it all back where YOU want it when it's done |
| 03:57.21 | Iriel | Nobody will see it happen |
| 04:00.46 | Shadowed | Wouldn't I have to register for when the user moves the frame then and save that position? |
| 04:01.34 | Iriel | Probably, but that may not be too hard to do |
| 04:02.53 | Shadowed | Looking at the WidgetHandlers page and I only see Start/Stop for movement, but not when they're actually dragging it |
| 04:03.13 | Iriel | You have OnUpdate |
| 04:04.40 | Iriel | You actually may just be able to get away with knowing how far the mouse is from the corner of the frame when you start dragging |
| 04:04.45 | Iriel | it depends how the frame is configured |
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| 04:05.11 | Nom- | http://www.blacksheep-themovie.com/ |
| 04:05.16 | Nom- | That's going to be a funny ass movie |
| 04:05.26 | Nom- | Trust the bloody Kiwis to make a movie about sheep |
| 04:05.31 | Shadowed | Well in general they aren't going to be moving the frame that often, so stopping updates just while they drag it wouldn't cause that much issues i'd imagine and it means not needing to add extra checks for saving the positioning and restoring it. |
| 04:12.43 | Corrodias | any news on 2.1? |
| 04:13.06 | Corrodias | i'm getting impatient for my flight form |
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| 04:18.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | castlevania is hitting xbl arcade today woop woop woop |
| 04:18.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 04:18.12 | purl | What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc |
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| 04:25.51 | mahiro | hi |
| 04:29.34 | Corrodias | unless you bear news of 2.1, i don't want to talk to you. >:o |
| 04:30.04 | Thunder_Child | corr behave... |
| 04:30.08 | mahiro | o_O |
| 04:30.34 | mahiro | is there a release date for 2.1? |
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| 04:33.03 | Nom- | woooooot |
| 04:33.32 | Nom- | It looks more in the Terminator age range :) |
| 04:36.10 | Thunder_Child | oh noes! |
| 04:36.34 | Nom- | What was the patch last night btw? |
| 04:36.35 | Nom- | Hotfix ? |
| 04:36.37 | Thunder_Child | bah, i cant believe i just said that |
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| 04:42.56 | Nom- | woooooooooot my puter is fixed! |
| 04:43.00 | Nom- | CPU keeled over :/ |
| 04:43.57 | Nom- | at least it was now, and not after my warranty ran otu |
| 04:47.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | eat it with some french onion dip |
| 04:47.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least it was just the CPU and not the HDD or mobo |
| 04:48.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean CPUs can be expensive, but mobo and HDD replacement is such a pain, unless you're better at backing up than i |
| 04:50.45 | Kirov_ | where's the 5.0 to 5.1.1 lua changes page? |
| 04:50.50 | Garoun|Loupana | if you are using windows based anything for your OS replacing just about anything is a pain :/ |
| 04:50.57 | Garoun|Loupana | stupid forced check crap |
| 04:52.19 | Iriel | Kirov_: At the end of the lua 5.1 manual IIRC |
| 04:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Garoun|Loupana> stupid forced check crap |
| 04:54.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's never taken more than 30 seconds for me :O |
| 04:56.21 | Nom- | Yeah, it's all covered under warranty thankfuly |
| 04:56.52 | Nom- | I just dropped off the whole computer to them, because I frankly couldn't be bothered pulling the whole PC apart if it was the Motherboard |
| 04:58.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got too much ...extended trial... software to deal with that, plus i think the company that made this thing before i knew how to mess with the guts of computers is out of business i think |
| 04:59.49 | Nom- | And I didn't know what was broken |
| 05:00.00 | Nom- | I mean it's not every day that your PC just switches itself off mid-game |
| 05:00.26 | Garoun|Loupana | I just meant windows liking to blue screen when you tried to boot after changing too much internal hardware |
| 05:00.53 | Nom- | That's easy enough to recover from |
| 05:01.23 | Garoun|Loupana | I didn't know how way back when :P I do now, it's just annoying as hell |
| 05:01.24 | Nom- | The real problem is when you're using your Motherboards' onboard RAID |
| 05:01.37 | Nom- | And then you have to replace your motherboard |
| 05:01.40 | Nom- | That's a REAL PITA |
| 05:01.53 | Nom- | More than 50% of the time you lose all the data |
| 05:02.05 | Nom- | Unless it's the exact same chipset |
| 05:02.11 | Nom- | Exact same raid controller |
| 05:02.15 | Nom- | and you don't fudge the settings |
| 05:03.46 | Corrodias | hey, i was disconnected |
| 05:04.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | during that time we all passed around 2.1 patch notes and laughed merrily |
| 05:05.22 | Corrodias | yes? |
| 05:05.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but unfortunately blizz already took them down and none of us bothered to save them because we were laughing too heartily at the sheer awesomeness |
| 05:05.46 | Corrodias | i am Unable to Connect >:( |
| 05:05.55 | Corrodias | there we go |
| 05:06.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm BSing btw |
| 05:06.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to play freaking castlevania :x |
| 05:06.25 | Corrodias | i thought you were just talking about the "fake" notes |
| 05:07.38 | Nom- | but yeah...what was the patch last ngith ? |
| 05:07.42 | Nom- | *night |
| 05:07.44 | Nom- | Just hot fixes ? |
| 05:08.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't get one |
| 05:08.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probably euro only |
| 05:08.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | if...you're euro :O |
| 05:08.57 | Nom- | ah just the launcher mayeb ? |
| 05:09.03 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81960523&sid=1 |
| 05:09.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh .au |
| 05:09.21 | Nom- | well there was extended downtime |
| 05:09.26 | Nom- | So I assumed they were doing *something* |
| 05:09.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe it's some localization thing @_@ |
| 05:09.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got no patch |
| 05:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine using aussie colloquialisms in quest text oh god |
| 05:10.21 | Nom- | Not even a launchar patch ? |
| 05:10.30 | Nom- | lol we use the regular enUS client |
| 05:10.35 | Nom- | So no changes there |
| 05:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | no launcher patch |
| 05:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | just checked |
| 05:10.47 | Nom- | I wouldn't mind an enAU clieng though |
| 05:10.54 | Nom- | Finally start spelling armour correctly |
| 05:11.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | extraneous 'u' :argh: |
| 05:11.18 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:11.25 | Nom- | You and your crazy spelling |
| 05:11.29 | Nom- | It's Aluminium damnit |
| 05:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i spells it aloomenim |
| 05:12.08 | Nom- | and to-mah-to, not to-may-to |
| 05:12.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's pretty much regional here |
| 05:12.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | you get both, more tomayto than tomahto though |
| 05:13.26 | Nom- | What's some other words you can't say correctly... *ponders* |
| 05:13.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | our branchoff of english was a little earlier than yours so we get early spellings of a few english words, plus webster purposefully changing things here and there to distinquish us from traditional english :O |
| 05:14.23 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:14.28 | Nom- | That's the stupid thing |
| 05:14.38 | Nom- | You can't have variations of English dagnabbit |
| 05:14.43 | Nom- | It's the language of the ENGLISH |
| 05:14.57 | subbawt | hello internet, can you hear me? |
| 05:15.00 | Nom- | You can have accents, that's acceptable |
| 05:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | well there was a long period of time where there wasn't much contact between the two |
| 05:15.14 | Nom- | subbawt: No, we can't hear you. Try adjusting your quantum confubulator. |
| 05:15.23 | Karrion | Nom: lol at that post: " If you would like to help us out, feel free to email us at forum@blizzard.com with the Subject: "trojan-downloader.win32.agent variant" and include any information that may help us... Are you running any Hack/Cheat/Bot that you believe may have attributed to this (please be honest..)? If so where did you acquire the Mod/Hack/Cheat/Bot from?" |
| 05:15.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | so our 'snapshot' of english is from the 17th century |
| 05:17.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | with purposeful modification to seperate us from the monarchy no longer ruling over us :O |
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| 05:19.00 | Nom- | pfft |
| 05:19.15 | Nom- | http://halo.bungie.org/misc/cb_mcsuit.html |
| 05:19.18 | Nom- | niiice |
| 05:19.20 | Nom- | WTB :P |
| 05:20.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | let me know when he gets the liquid cooling layer and oxygen tank implemented tia |
| 05:21.00 | Calliee|Work | lol |
| 05:21.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry i'm a halo novel nerd :p |
| 05:22.27 | Nom- | Oxygen tank? |
| 05:22.28 | Nom- | pfft |
| 05:23.04 | Nom- | one day when i have too much money, i'm going to make a master cheif suit out of like carbon fibre or something |
| 05:23.27 | Nom- | maybe some titanium here and there |
| 05:23.36 | Nom- | make that stuff into real body armor |
| 05:23.38 | Nom- | armour |
| 05:23.39 | Nom- | damnit |
| 05:23.42 | Nom- | you've corrupted me! |
| 05:34.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
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| 05:37.52 | exge | hello again ... how do i detect a guild member coming online |
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| 05:41.04 | Karrion | exge: you can catch the GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event, though that fires for other things as well |
| 05:41.34 | exge | i checked that event ... which argument shows player coming online name |
| 05:42.24 | Karrion | it doesn't. you'd have to use GetGuildRosterInfo() to go through the list and see who is there that wasn't there before |
| 05:42.42 | exge | lol ok ... so theres no other way? |
| 05:42.43 | Karrion | (it's not really ideal) |
| 05:43.25 | Karrion | there should be an event that fires when someone comes online that the default chat window catches, but that does friends list as well |
| 05:43.35 | exge | thats ok too |
| 05:44.02 | Karrion | not sure of the event name off the top of my head |
| 05:44.08 | exge | its ok ... i can wait |
| 05:51.13 | Nom- | "FRIENDLIST_UPDATE" event? |
| 05:51.36 | Nom- | ah that only works for actual friendly apparently |
| 05:52.47 | Nom- | "PLAYER_GUILD_UPDATE" maybe ? |
| 05:52.49 | Karrion | anyone got a checked out FrameXML? grep -r ERR_FRIEND_ONLINE_SS |
| 05:52.50 | Nom- | This appears to be fired when a player is gkicked, gquits, etc. |
| 05:53.01 | Nom- | That might fire...trap it and find out |
| 05:53.09 | exge | i tried |
| 05:53.15 | exge | its only for kicked or quit |
| 05:53.22 | Nom- | ah kk |
| 05:53.46 | Nom- | Well the default Chat is capable of seeing who comes online |
| 05:53.50 | Nom- | ie. Notifying you |
| 05:53.53 | Nom- | So check that code |
| 05:54.08 | exge | errmm .ok which code to check ? events? |
| 05:56.59 | Nom- | For the default blizzard chat frame |
| 05:57.09 | Nom- | I'm not sure how to get access to it, but i'm sure you can |
| 05:57.25 | Karrion | oh great... grepped FrameXML for "has come online", it occurs once, defining the string ERR_FRIEND_ONLINE_SS. grepped for that... never used. |
| 05:58.21 | exge | so i catch the event ERR_FRIEND_ONLINE_SS ?? |
| 05:58.40 | Karrion | no, that's not an event |
| 05:59.02 | Karrion | it's the definition of the string that gets shown when a friend/guild member logs in |
| 05:59.10 | exge | ok, so how do i detect that? |
| 05:59.32 | Karrion | however the fact that it's never actually referenced by the rest of the UI code suggests that something magical is happening outside of the UI |
| 06:00.05 | Karrion | ie, the UI isn't catching an event in order to display it |
| 06:00.16 | Karrion | which probably means, there is no such event |
| 06:03.44 | Karrion | I guess you could try hooking the AddMessage() method of the chat window and look for a string which matched ".* has come online" |
| 06:04.12 | exge | hook .. okaay .... i know how to hook in proper programming languages but not in this |
| 06:05.25 | Karrion | read http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Hook_chat_frames_to_modify_or_suppress_messages |
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| 06:05.36 | exge | ok i will |
| 06:06.08 | Cairenn | that's a prejudice you're going to have to get over |
| 06:06.23 | Karrion | Cairenn: ? |
| 06:06.25 | exge | lol im not prejudiced.. |
| 06:06.32 | Cairenn | (2:04:09 AM) exge: hook .. okaay .... i know how to hook in proper programming languages but not in this -- lua is a proper language :p |
| 06:06.51 | Karrion | oh right ;-) yeah |
| 06:06.52 | exge | lua is scripting language |
| 06:07.31 | Karrion | yes, but nothing improper about it |
| 06:07.46 | exge | lol .. i didnt say it was improper |
| 06:07.58 | exge | i meant proper programming languages |
| 06:08.03 | Cairenn | (mostly that was said with tongue in cheek, btw ;) ) |
| 06:08.10 | exge | like C/vb ... you know ... the common ones |
| 06:08.37 | Karrion | .... did someone just call VB a proper programming language O.o |
| 06:08.40 | Karrion | ;-P |
| 06:08.45 | Cairenn | I poke people, it's part of my job description ;) |
| 06:08.49 | exge | lol |
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| 06:21.35 | Shadowed | Would have though it would be harder to run from shattrath to thrallmar at level 44! |
| 06:26.33 | exge | isnt shattrah in outlands? |
| 06:27.01 | Shadowed | yeah |
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| 06:27.29 | Shadowed | mage portals and warlock summon don't have level restrictions, so you can go at level 1 if you have TBC |
| 06:27.41 | exge | ahh |
| 06:28.20 | exge | but level 1, wont your aggro range be really really BIG |
| 06:28.47 | Shadowed | well nothing will attack you in shattrath, and the mobs in hellsfire were hitting for around 250 |
| 06:29.18 | exge | 250 can easily kill a level 1 |
| 06:30.40 | exge | ok, about the hooking, do i add that function in onload or onevent |
| 06:31.55 | Nom- | err |
| 06:32.11 | Nom- | HFC mobs will hit a level 1 for > 1000 |
| 06:32.28 | Nom- | 5 defense vs 300 attack rating = pwned |
| 06:32.30 | Karrion | exge: on load I think |
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| 06:33.13 | exge | onload ... ok i'll try |
| 06:33.16 | Calliee|Work | I should soooo get my lvl 47 Hunter ported to Shattrath... |
| 06:33.37 | Nom- | Calliee|Work: Yes, you should. :) |
| 06:33.41 | exge | if i set my hearth in shattrah when im lvl 50 , can i hearth there agaon |
| 06:33.43 | Calliee|Work | I havn't see any of outlands yet, don't have a toon high enough level |
| 06:33.57 | Calliee|Work | to go through the portal |
| 06:34.05 | PProvost | Not sure a low level can port there |
| 06:34.15 | Nom- | Most people have their alts ported to Shattrath now |
| 06:34.20 | Shadowed | Nom- meant against a level 44 they were hitting for 250 |
| 06:34.22 | Nom- | hearthed to even |
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| 06:34.44 | PProvost | Why would you want to do that? |
| 06:34.47 | Nom- | Shadowed: Normally...they'll hit crushing VERY often on a level 1 |
| 06:34.49 | Shadowed | Just bribe a mage to portal you, not sure if you can bind but BE's already are friendly with scryers (at least by 44) so they can |
| 06:34.55 | Shadowed | Yeah they were crushing me every hit |
| 06:35.00 | Nom- | Hearth to Shattrath, take portal to major city |
| 06:35.15 | Nom- | Next best thing to mage portals |
| 06:35.17 | Shadowed | only way you can train 375 herbalism |
| 06:35.30 | exge | ok .. so i have to find some1 to make me portal |
| 06:35.37 | Shadowed | cause by 45 it's pretty easy to max herbalism at 300 |
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| 06:35.45 | Nom- | So? |
| 06:35.52 | Nom- | You don't need Herbalism > 300 until you're IN outlands |
| 06:35.55 | exge | my skinning is 300, but i want to continue |
| 06:36.07 | Nom- | And realistically, you can't go herb farming at level 45 :) |
| 06:36.11 | Shadowed | but you can still level it past 300 outside outlands, or at least I think you can |
| 06:36.28 | Nom- | You need level 50 to learn master herbamlism |
| 06:36.31 | Shadowed | no you don't |
| 06:36.40 | Shadowed | herbalism is the only trade skill that isn't level restricted |
| 06:36.56 | Nom- | *shrug* not much point having that high |
| 06:37.04 | Nom- | Not like you're going to easily run around Outlands farming herbs |
| 06:37.13 | Shadowed | <Shadowed> but you can still level it past 300 outside outlands, or at least I think you can |
| 06:37.21 | Nom- | Yeah you can |
| 06:37.28 | Shadowed | may as well get a head start! |
| 06:37.41 | Nom- | Mountain Silversage, Dreamfoil, Icecap |
| 06:37.47 | Nom- | All give skillups at 300 Herbs |
| 06:38.30 | Karrion | 'night all |
| 06:38.35 | Shadowed | couldn't remember! been a while since i've leveled it |
| 06:38.36 | Shadowed | night Karrion |
| 06:39.10 | exge | ok, i tried the hook but im stuck |
| 06:39.10 | exge | http://wowi.pastey.net/8778 |
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| 06:47.50 | nuoHep | if type(msg) == "string" and msg:find("has come online") then |
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| 06:50.57 | exge | ok i have something like this |
| 06:50.59 | exge | local tmpstr = string.find(msg, "%shas come online") |
| 06:51.08 | exge | now how to get player name |
| 06:51.10 | nuoHep | local user = msg:gsub(".*|Hplayer:(.-)|h.*", "%1") |
| 06:51.43 | exge | o ok, so i dont need to use "local tmpstr = string.find(msg, "%shas come online")" |
| 06:52.00 | nuoHep | nope |
| 06:52.29 | exge | local tmpstr = string.find(msg, "%shas come online") |
| 06:52.29 | exge | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.29 | exge | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.39 | exge | so it should look like this? |
| 06:53.54 | nuoHep | http://wowi.pastey.net/8780 |
| 06:54.04 | Nom- | argh |
| 06:54.13 | Nom- | There's one guy that works here, and he has really, really bad BO |
| 06:54.34 | Nom- | He's about 10m away from me, and I can still smell it :S |
| 06:54.37 | exge | lol |
| 06:55.03 | Nom- | I hate that |
| 06:55.09 | Nom- | At least he doesn't work on this floor :/ |
| 06:55.16 | exge | ok thx all |
| 06:59.56 | Tem | if type(msg) ~= "string" then return end local name = msg:match(".-|Hplayer:([^|]+|h.*") |
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| 07:01.23 | Tem | why would you hook the chat frame? |
| 07:01.28 | Tem | it's a system message |
| 07:01.32 | Tem | just register for the event |
| 07:05.46 | exge | actually what does ".-|Hplayer:([^|]+|h.*") mean |
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| 07:10.10 | exge | is there any event i need to register for the hooking to activate.. cos i cant test it now |
| 07:10.17 | exge | most of my guild is offline |
| 07:13.00 | Tem | http://wowi.pastey.net/8782 |
| 07:19.59 | exge | apparently i didnt need to register any event |
| 07:20.05 | exge | cos it works fine now |
| 07:20.08 | exge | thks guys |
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| 07:23.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i find myself doing that all the time :( |
| 07:25.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just don't try :p coding's not my forte at all, i'm terrible at it |
| 07:25.46 | Calliee|Work | I don't mind questions, but you should have some idea what you're doing before you ask |
| 07:26.12 | Calliee|Work | that way you'll understand the answer |
| 07:26.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/bcattunement/ |
| 07:26.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 07:28.16 | Corrodias | nifty |
| 07:30.02 | Shadowed | Would be better if they positioned the tooltip to the top left and not the bottom right! |
| 07:30.36 | Tem | so change it |
| 07:30.36 | Tem | it's not hard at all |
| 07:30.52 | Corrodias | here, let me just hack blizzard's web server for you |
| 07:30.57 | Shadowed | Oh, you can? |
| 07:31.09 | Tem | it's handled by Gametooltip_SetDefaultPosisiont |
| 07:31.12 | Tem | Position* |
| 07:31.14 | Tem | or something like that |
| 07:31.20 | Tem | I don't remember the exact name offhand |
| 07:31.36 | Shadowed | err, I mean the page Mr_Rabies linked not in-game |
| 07:31.39 | Tem | you can probably just hook that function and change where it places the tooltip |
| 07:31.50 | Tem | oh |
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| 07:34.22 | Deathface | heya |
| 07:34.29 | Deathface | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:38.27 | Tem | I wish KTM had died before anyone found out about it |
| 07:40.04 | Deathface | why? |
| 07:40.20 | Deathface | whats better? |
| 07:40.23 | Tem | 2 reasons stick out in my mind at the moment |
| 07:40.35 | Tem | one of them is just me being an asshole to you |
| 07:40.43 | Deathface | k |
| 07:41.36 | murderface | what do you mean booze ain't food? |
| 07:42.02 | Deathface | tem whats the 2nd reason |
| 07:42.13 | Tem | KTM is a bad idea |
| 07:42.17 | Deathface | why? |
| 07:42.23 | Tem | it's a crutch |
| 07:42.25 | Tem | l2p |
| 07:42.49 | Deathface | but if the tool is there...why not use it? |
| 07:42.53 | Deathface | i wasnt before , but its nice |
| 07:42.58 | Tem | s |
| 07:43.12 | Corrodias | tem prefers wipes to wins |
| 07:43.34 | Tem | Tem prefers people to know how to @#@%ing play their characters and control their agro themselves |
| 07:43.47 | Deathface | it allows me to maximize my DPS so i know right when to FD and start DPSing again |
| 07:43.51 | Deathface | how is that not good? |
| 07:43.55 | Tem | that's a cop out |
| 07:43.56 | Deathface | your argument isnt working for me |
| 07:44.03 | Corrodias | Tem prefers people to learn by trial and error how to provide proper threat for every single tank |
| 07:44.11 | Tem | Don't misunderstand |
| 07:44.18 | Tem | this is not "my argument" |
| 07:44.23 | Tem | it's my opinion |
| 07:44.30 | Tem | I don't plan to argue with you |
| 07:44.42 | Deathface | im not trying to argue either but i thought you had a good reason |
| 07:44.46 | Corrodias | then i shall go back to categorizing porn |
| 07:45.01 | Tem | It's a good reason for me... |
| 07:45.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | <+murderface> what do you mean booze ain't food? |
| 07:45.17 | Deathface | can you FD? |
| 07:45.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather chop off my ding-dong than admit that |
| 07:45.42 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, do you even get the reference? |
| 07:45.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed indeed i do |
| 07:45.56 | Tem | ah good :) |
| 07:46.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is why i was finishing the quote :p |
| 07:46.03 | Tem | oh wait, isn't that his next line? |
| 07:46.09 | Tem | ahaha lol |
| 07:46.23 | Tem | sorry, I'm a bit out of it |
| 07:47.10 | Tem | Deathface, I think really what I'm trying to tell you through the screen of "I'm an asshole and I don't want to help you" is that people in this channel aren't likely to know the answer to your question |
| 07:47.30 | Deathface | fair enough |
| 07:47.33 | Tem | this is typically a place for addon devs to discuss development issues... though I'll admit we get OT quite often |
| 07:47.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't use KTM, not because i disagree with its use, but it seems to eat my resources alive, and when i used it was wildly inaccurate |
| 07:47.45 | Deathface | i was referred to here from #wowwiki |
| 07:48.03 | Tem | this is definitely a closer match to your question than #wowwiki |
| 07:48.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think it's nearly as offtopic as we get sometimes |
| 07:48.41 | Tem | indeed |
| 07:48.48 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, that's another of my gripes with it. It bothers me that they claim to be a "ZOMGTHREATMONITOR" when it's 100% impossible to be accurate with it |
| 07:49.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | when i used it i looked at it like a speed limit sign |
| 07:49.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | merely a suggestion :p |
| 07:49.35 | Tem | I almost got a speeding ticket last week |
| 07:49.42 | Tem | I totally got off the hook |
| 07:50.20 | Tem | opens _so_ many doors... |
| 07:51.07 | Tem | I think the fact that it was bar closing time and I wasn't inebriated also worked to my favor |
| 07:51.26 | Tem | the cop was probably looking for drunk people |
| 07:52.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend had a flight or fight response with his first run in with the police, his first thought was if he could outrun them in his little tiny saturn |
| 07:53.04 | Tem | >< |
| 07:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | he passed another car into the other lane, on double yellow, going 80 in a 55, infront of two cops. |
| 07:53.39 | Tem | how much was his ticket? |
| 07:53.47 | Tem | 300? |
| 07:53.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | funniest thing ever was me going dude slow down this guy's gonna pull out infront of y---and now you're passing him and oh look cops |
| 07:53.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | got off with a warning |
| 07:54.02 | Tem | !@! |
| 07:54.28 | Tem | (that was not intended to be a lame spelling of "lol") |
| 07:54.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the cops were probably like WHAT THE HELL because of the utter ridiculousness |
| 07:54.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | honestly he had to either go into the other lane or off the road entirely because he was speeding like a moron |
| 07:55.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | when some guy pulled out of a road infront of him |
| 07:55.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | going like 20 |
| 07:55.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just glad we didn't die in a fiery explosion |
| 07:55.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing like going 110 mph down a hill with your friend in his tiny little saturn /cry |
| 07:56.01 | Tem | this is why I always drive |
| 07:56.10 | Tem | I don't trust my friends to not do stupid shit like that |
| 07:56.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm too lazy to drive |
| 07:56.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mooch rides all the time |
| 07:56.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i rarely ever drive myself |
| 07:57.31 | Tem | I prefer driving myself |
| 07:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | Tem, what addons do you write/manage/whatever again? i've seen your other name (tardmrr) on one or more of mine i think and i can't place which |
| 07:59.19 | Tem | tardmrr.wowinterface.com |
| 07:59.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i totally didn't realize that was you |
| 08:00.11 | Tem | hehe |
| 08:01.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm... i don't use any of those, are there any you've discontinued? |
| 08:01.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | your name sticks out for some reason and i'm not sure why |
| 08:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's one of those WHO IS THAT ACTOR type moments |
| 08:01.35 | Tem | erm |
| 08:01.39 | Tem | Catalyst maybe? |
| 08:01.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | or WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT SONG |
| 08:01.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahh that's it |
| 08:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, thanks for cutting my loading time down from a minute or so to about 10 seconds during that dark time |
| 08:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 08:02.34 | Tem | heh, "WHERE IS THAT SONG FROM" is a daily conversation with myself |
| 08:02.52 | Corrodias | WHY are there so many "compilation" addons? |
| 08:03.09 | Tem | Corrodias, because they know it gets under my skin |
| 08:03.17 | Tem | it's a conspiracy |
| 08:03.19 | Tem | I swear |
| 08:03.43 | Corrodias | does that EasyMasterLoot function in 2.0? |
| 08:03.59 | Tem | it might |
| 08:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should make my own compilation!1 |
| 08:04.10 | Tem | I haven't even had it installed myself for a long time |
| 08:04.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | my horrible horrible tangled mess of cosmos, fubar, and other various ace and standalone mods |
| 08:04.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | that somehow manage not to conflict, but i'll be damned if loading doesn't take forever |
| 08:04.57 | Tem | Tem wishes more addons would be LoD |
| 08:05.03 | Tem | it makes load times so much better |
| 08:05.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a few LoD ones, but most of mine that i use are necessary to be loaded all the time |
| 08:05.48 | Tem | What you don't realize is that "must be loaded all the time" is extremely subjective |
| 08:06.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, i'd much prefer it to be that way, hell, a couple of my LoD ones i have the LoD functionality turned off |
| 08:06.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i.e. enchantrix, auctioneer on my auction mule, etc |
| 08:07.03 | Tem | well there's your problem |
| 08:07.14 | Corrodias | same... not much good having the addons if you can't see their data |
| 08:07.19 | Tem | auc and ench take DAYS to load compared to normal addons |
| 08:07.27 | Nom- | <-- bored |
| 08:07.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, auc really starts bogging down when its SVs start filling up |
| 08:07.51 | Corrodias | i am experiencing for the first time the joys of trying to grind up mining from 1 |
| 08:08.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | go to silvermoon corr |
| 08:08.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | copper is ALL OVER THE PLACE |
| 08:08.19 | Corrodias | well, thanks, but now i need iron and gold by this point |
| 08:08.30 | Corrodias | a couple of hours with an epic land mount means i'm at 155 now |
| 08:08.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno why, buffed spawns from all the influx of newbie players, i guess? |
| 08:08.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahh |
| 08:08.50 | Nom- | Iron is such a PITA |
| 08:09.00 | Corrodias | currently i'm running a circuit around Arathi Highlands |
| 08:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom's flatbread |
| 08:09.07 | Corrodias | but i find everything is quite sparse when other people are mining also |
| 08:09.09 | Nom- | Thankfully i'm through taht..i'm up to Mithril on my pally |
| 08:09.17 | Nom- | Except I've not found a Mithril spurs recipe yet |
| 08:09.19 | Nom- | That's a PITA |
| 08:09.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's worth the effort once you're good though |
| 08:09.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | once you get it to ~300 you're rolling in dough unless you use all the ore |
| 08:09.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is pretty likely with jc |
| 08:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | from leveling it 1-150 or so |
| 08:10.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | you burn through so much ore :[ |
| 08:11.29 | Nom- | JC or BS? |
| 08:11.33 | Nom- | BS 1-150 is pretty cheap |
| 08:11.44 | Nom- | Sure, might need a lot of ore, but it's REALLY cheap |
| 08:12.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | jc burns through so much ore |
| 08:12.05 | Nom- | Thorium on our server atm is the most expensive of all the ores |
| 08:12.10 | Nom- | or bars |
| 08:12.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like, 20 here for 5 levels, plus 100 for a few measly gems |
| 08:12.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got a fel iron rod for 5g from some guy that didn't understand the AH or something |
| 08:12.58 | Corrodias | i dunno, man, mithril looks a lot harder to level through than iron |
| 08:13.17 | Corrodias | i've only seen a couple of mithrils, but maybe that's because i'm not in the right places for it yet |
| 08:13.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm such a copper pincher |
| 08:13.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate wasting gold because i hate farming |
| 08:13.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | every gold wasted is another x minutes wasted farming |
| 08:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll haggle and decline lower-than-market-value prices all day |
| 08:14.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and price gouge the hell out of twinks :p |
| 08:14.49 | Corrodias | i love farming because i get to do the same thing over and over for hours! |
| 08:15.20 | krka | if you have farming you shouldn't be playing wow in the first place |
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| 08:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't really had much difficulty avoiding farming |
| 08:15.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than quests that involve it, and even those get annoying |
| 08:15.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | bring me 35 fish assholes for my fish asshole stew |
| 08:16.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and 50% of the fish don't have assholes, they just explode when they eat |
| 08:17.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i need to sleep, heh |
| 08:18.23 | Corrodias | man, i need to start packing my stuff up |
| 08:18.35 | Corrodias | soon i will be moving into my new apartment and starting my new job. i can't play WoW all day. |
| 08:21.14 | Corrodias | might move on to Tanaris... |
| 08:22.54 | krka | lol Mr_Rabies2 |
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| 08:33.12 | Mortius | anyone happen to be awake? |
| 08:33.36 | Corrodias | i |
| 08:33.40 | Corrodias | for what good it'll do you |
| 08:33.44 | Mortius | hehe |
| 08:34.22 | Mortius | I'm trying to detect when a party member goes offline or is dead, using the event "PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE", but that doesn't seem to work anymore |
| 08:35.53 | Corrodias | guess what |
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| 08:36.18 | Mortius | hehe, it's cool man :) |
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| 08:43.01 | Corrodias | and druid tanking feels easier than druid healing was |
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| 10:05.07 | Nom- | woot computer back up and running |
| 10:07.11 | Corrodias | woo |
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| 10:23.54 | Corrodias | i wonder if i can solo Baron Rivendare as a feral druid... |
| 10:24.12 | Corrodias | (apparently someone else did, but his gear was apparently superior) |
| 10:31.59 | Corrodias | just curious. i don't want anything he has, really. okay, [away] @ sleep. 'ni |
| 10:34.15 | nevcairiel | just try it then :P |
| 10:34.17 | nevcairiel | and night |
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| 14:37.38 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
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| 14:40.01 | JoshBorke | :) |
| 14:40.13 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
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| 15:09.29 | Bleeter | nn |
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| 15:10.11 | Cairenn | night bleeter |
| 15:10.28 | Mavtoo | hi together |
| 15:11.45 | Mavtoo | anybody here who has a littlebit of time and knowlede of how to programm a warning if a specific debuff fades or breaks from my focus? |
| 15:13.08 | Cairenn | Mavtoo: Hi. There is undoubtedly someone that can give you a hand, but the channel is really quiet at the moment, everyone is obviously afk, at work, or some such |
| 15:13.24 | Cairenn | If you hang around, someone is likely to give you a hand at some point |
| 15:14.18 | Mavtoo | thats what i'm trying but without asking i wouldn't know if anybody here who has time at the moment ^^ |
| 15:14.50 | Cairenn | aye, I know, wasn't a criticism, was just letting you know :) |
| 15:16.03 | Mavtoo | thanks but i know not one chat or something like that where you get instant help even it would be nice *gg* |
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| 15:16.12 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 15:18.11 | Mavtoo | how was the start of the lotr interface site are there enough interest? |
| 15:18.35 | Cairenn | oh yeah, that's going to really take off once the game goes live the end of next month |
| 15:19.17 | Cairenn | we've already got a dozen or so mods uploaded, even though it's still in closed beta, and we've already got a couple members of the Turbine UI team posting |
| 15:20.15 | zenzelezz | haxx |
| 15:20.25 | Cairenn | I can't wait until the game goes live |
| 15:20.34 | Cairenn | having a blast with it |
| 15:20.40 | Cairenn | morning zenzelezz :) |
| 15:20.51 | zenzelezz | not quite, but heya =) |
| 15:20.58 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:21.44 | Mavtoo | hm.. i think i will stay at wow but it is nice to hear that the lotr project has such a good start. if i only had more time i think i would take a look on lotr but for two games like wow and lotr i think nobody has really ENOUGH time *gg* oh and sorry for my ... ähm... lets say not perfect english ^^ |
| 15:22.20 | zenzelezz | yours isn't so bad, you should see some of the stuff we hear |
| 15:22.22 | Cairenn | heh, yeah, that's for sure - and no apologies necessary, you are perfectly comprehensible |
| 15:23.17 | Cairenn | (first part of statement in response to not enough time) |
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| 15:24.26 | Cairenn | morning cogwheel|work |
| 15:24.34 | Mavtoo | *gg* ok thats sounds good. with a little luck i will start a apprenticeship in game producing. so i have to advance my english knowledge ^^ |
| 15:25.23 | Cairenn | good luck! |
| 15:25.36 | Mavtoo | thx |
| 15:26.47 | Mavtoo | is a developer named mubari sometimes in this chat? |
| 15:27.23 | Cairenn | I don't recall seeing that name personally, but (contrary to popular belief) I'm not here 24/7 |
| 15:29.15 | Mavtoo | no problem it was a try ^^ because he has made the addon i want to modify a little bit but unfortunatly my programming knowledge seems a little bit too poor |
| 15:29.16 | cogwheel|work | morning |
| 15:29.36 | Cairenn | which mod? have a link to it? |
| 15:29.36 | Mavtoo | good morning cogwheel |
| 15:30.01 | Mavtoo | of course: shackle watch http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6425-ShackleWatch.html |
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| 15:38.40 | Mavtoo | my "problem" with this mod is i get no warning if the shackle break before the time is up. and if i had the mob in focus i think it must be possible to check if the shackle debuff is still on it and if not give a warning |
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| 16:09.45 | cogwheel|work | do druids have any prowl-only abilities? |
| 16:12.24 | Mavtoo | sorry i don't play a druid so i can't help you |
| 16:13.00 | Cairenn | prowl only or cat only? |
| 16:13.06 | cogwheel|work | prowl only |
| 16:13.29 | Cairenn | *shrug* - I'll ask daughter when she wakes up, she plays a druid |
| 16:13.56 | nuoHep | ravage and pounce |
| 16:14.02 | nuoHep | maybe more |
| 16:14.12 | cogwheel|work | thanks :) |
| 16:14.22 | TC_Working | cogwheel|work, http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.11.134 browse |
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| 16:15.43 | Cairenn | those were kinda obvious, duh on our part for not thinking of them :p |
| 16:18.17 | Mavtoo | ok guy's ha dto go maybe i'll come back tomorrow and try again to find help with this mod ;-) have fun and don't forget to play a bit in your freetime ^^ bye bye |
| 16:18.30 | Cairenn | later Mavtoo |
| 16:18.56 | Cairenn | sorry no luck today |
| 16:19.07 | Mavtoo | hey no problem ;-) |
| 16:19.15 | Mavtoo | cya |
| 16:19.21 | cogwheel|work | i'd help if i had more time :( |
| 16:19.57 | Mavtoo | *gg* time is what nobay has.. me included ^^ |
| 16:20.42 | Mavtoo | ok but if i dont go now my guild will do very bad things with me because of too late for the raid and i'm the leader ^^ |
| 16:20.54 | Mavtoo | much fun everybody bye bye |
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| 16:52.53 | Corrodias | the answer is yes, there are a few abilities that can only be used in prowl |
| 16:53.01 | Corrodias | Ravage and Pounce come to mind; those may be it |
| 16:58.14 | Cairenn | those are the only two my daughter can come up with either |
| 17:01.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah that's all |
| 17:01.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | part of cheap shot and part of garrote or ambush with a different multiplier more or less :O |
| 17:06.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | castlevania is fun all of you with 360s should get it thanks |
| 17:07.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | the second i hear "die monster, you don't belong in this world" i got all giddy |
| 17:07.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | heard* |
| 17:19.00 | Corrodias | i've never played a castlevania game more than was necessary to test an emulator, come to think of it |
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| 17:43.41 | mahiro | hi |
| 17:43.49 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 17:43.54 | TC_Working | hi mahiro |
| 17:45.44 | mahiro | i have a little problem, i want to put some things in an event handler, but i dont know how to do that with the current setup:/ |
| 17:46.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr, play SoTN, somehow or another, it's awesome |
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| 17:54.25 | mahiro | a little example: http://pastey.net/8828 now i want to put the unitnames function in en event but i dont know how i could do this without writing it for every unit itself:/ |
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| 17:56.21 | kaso | Mahiro |
| 17:56.28 | mahiro | ya? |
| 17:56.40 | kaso | which event are you registering? |
| 17:56.41 | exge | hello .. im back |
| 17:57.05 | mahiro | PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED |
| 17:57.43 | exge | btw, how do i detect the difference between friends and guild members coming online |
| 17:58.03 | kaso | Hmm im not sure enitrely i understand what you want to do, can you explian more mahiro |
| 17:58.05 | exge | when i hook the chat messages, it fires on any1 coming online |
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| 17:59.50 | mahiro | sure. i want to display the names of the party members but i dont want it OnUpdate as it is at the moment. i would like to set them when the event is fired |
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| 18:01.11 | kaso | Ok so every time PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED is called do for i=1,4 do DoSomeThing(UnitName("party"..i)) end |
| 18:02.24 | kaso | or even better |
| 18:02.34 | kaso | for i=1,GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 18:04.49 | mahiro | thats not the problem... i have different "frame names" for each party name and i wonder if i can do it like in the exaple and use a variable for all of them o_O |
| 18:05.12 | kaso | oh |
| 18:05.27 | kaso | you can use _G["FrameNameAsAString"]:SetText() |
| 18:06.13 | mahiro | so there is no way around that i dont have to write it for every frame? |
| 18:06.23 | kaso | i just told you? |
| 18:06.51 | kaso | i mean i assume your frames are named like WhateverParty1 WhateverParty2 |
| 18:07.01 | kaso | so do _G["WhateverParty"..i] |
| 18:07.13 | mahiro | what does _G do? |
| 18:07.26 | cogwheel|work | mahiro: http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 18:07.46 | wereHamster | mahiro, 'global environment' |
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| 18:08.29 | cogwheel|work | specifically chapter 14 |
| 18:10.06 | kaso | Click the portal, dont move! |
| 18:10.16 | cogwheel|work | clik teh dam protal! |
| 18:12.25 | kaso | oh youve just reminded me, i cant wait till Hl2 ep 2 comes out, portal is gonna now |
| 18:17.04 | zenzelezz | what is it about people and portals lately |
| 18:21.21 | cogwheel|work | u guyz r teh suk dnot no how 2 use teh protal |
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| 18:26.03 | kneeki | *waves* |
| 18:28.52 | Cairenn | hi kneeki|atwork |
| 18:29.15 | kneeki|atwork | How goes it Cairenn? |
| 18:29.37 | Cairenn | not bad, yourself? |
| 18:30.10 | kneeki|atwork | good good. Just got my coffee ;) |
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| 18:32.50 | kneeki|atwork | lawl |
| 18:33.01 | kneeki|atwork | If you anyone liked DBZ and the 300 movie, click here: http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=79092 |
| 18:33.05 | kneeki|atwork | it's a goodun |
| 18:36.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | when that music kicked in in the movie, i'm not ashamed to admit i got a little excited |
| 18:37.05 | kneeki|atwork | *agrees* |
| 18:37.16 | kneeki|atwork | That movie is one of the few you could watch over and over w/o it getting old I think ;) |
| 18:38.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i read the comic a few hours before watching the movie |
| 18:38.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i was pumped |
| 18:38.30 | kneeki|atwork | haha |
| 18:38.34 | kneeki|atwork | good idea |
| 18:38.39 | kneeki|atwork | i didnt know there was a comic |
| 18:38.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what it's based on |
| 18:38.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | Frank Miller's graphic novel |
| 18:38.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty close |
| 18:39.08 | kneeki|atwork | I thought it was Greek Mythology? |
| 18:39.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | Sin City was a more accurate representation, but 300 was pretty close too |
| 18:39.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, it's based on a comic which is based on a stylized version of a tale told by mouth of the battle of thermopylae |
| 18:40.08 | kneeki|atwork | O.o |
| 18:40.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like a word-of-mouth telling of that battle through frank miller's twisted eyes :p |
| 18:40.42 | kneeki|atwork | oh i see |
| 18:40.43 | kneeki|atwork | haha |
| 18:40.54 | kneeki|atwork | I like that guy then =) |
| 18:40.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | then converted to a movie through zack snyder's eyes |
| 18:41.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | which stays pretty faithful |
| 18:41.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | he adds a couple things that made it make a little more sense as a movie, and made leonidas out to be a little more 'good' |
| 18:41.57 | kneeki|atwork | ya |
| 18:42.09 | kneeki|atwork | i watched something on TV w/ it. Nearly the entire movie was blue screen |
| 18:42.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | for example when [spoiler]1,1 leonidas declines the mutant guy's offer to join them, he kicks him off a cliff into some rocks[/spoiler] |
| 18:42.23 | kneeki|atwork | I feel bad for those guys who did all the artwork for it. But they did such a good job |
| 18:42.33 | kneeki|atwork | whoa, really? |
| 18:42.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, sin city was all digital backlot too |
| 18:42.40 | kneeki|atwork | then who betrays him in the end? |
| 18:43.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | he [s]1,1lives through the fall[/s] |
| 18:43.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops, forgot to close the color code |
| 18:43.18 | kneeki|atwork | ahhh |
| 18:43.34 | kneeki|atwork | oohhhh |
| 18:43.40 | kneeki|atwork | 300 was based on a graphic novel |
| 18:43.45 | kneeki|atwork | which was based around a movie |
| 18:43.50 | kneeki|atwork | which was based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae |
| 18:43.52 | kneeki|atwork | =P |
| 18:44.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_%28comic_book%29 |
| 18:44.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you go to any local bookstore and check out the graphic novel section they have a hardbound version of the comic |
| 18:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | two pages wide |
| 18:45.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | er they should* |
| 18:45.14 | kneeki|atwork | i'll do that! |
| 18:45.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | my local borders had about 5 copies before the movie hit, now it's hard to find :[ |
| 18:45.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't accidentally pick up the 'art from the movie' though |
| 18:45.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's about the same size as the hardbound graphic novel |
| 18:45.49 | kneeki|atwork | ah |
| 18:47.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and his wife plays a much minor role |
| 18:47.21 | kneeki|atwork | ooooo, afk. gonna go pick up armored core 4 =) |
| 18:47.23 | kneeki|atwork | bbl |
| 18:47.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha |
| 18:47.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should get the demo for that |
| 18:47.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna go play some castlevania |
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| 19:10.08 | kneeki|atwork | yay |
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| 19:57.21 | Guillotine | btw, did anyone get that ASCII filter working for WoW on Linux? |
| 19:57.28 | Guillotine | I never heard if that was a success |
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| 19:58.18 | wereHamster | ascii filter? |
| 19:58.24 | kneeki|atwork | I never had much luck playing games on 'nix |
| 19:58.41 | kneeki|atwork | I want to switch over to MacOS for my home PC's, but I hear that's not much better for gaming =( |
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| 20:00.32 | Guillotine | wereHamster: ya, we were trying that a while ago. Forgot who exactly was doing it though |
| 20:00.42 | Guillotine | trying to get WoW playable in Ascii |
| 20:01.11 | kneeki|atwork | What's Ascii? I assume not the l33t sp33k thing -_- |
| 20:01.16 | kneeki|atwork | Cedega? |
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| 20:02.41 | wereHamster | I played WoW in wireframe mode, but not ascii :) |
| 20:02.42 | Guillotine | Ascii is letters. Stuff like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bilde_5.png |
| 20:02.45 | Guillotine | made all from letters |
| 20:02.59 | Guillotine | wereHamster: ooo, have any screenshots? |
| 20:03.14 | wereHamster | http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/wireframe.mp4 |
| 20:03.16 | wereHamster | really short |
| 20:03.19 | kneeki|atwork | So, you wanted to play wow in Ascii? |
| 20:03.26 | kneeki|atwork | That.... would be a bit weird |
| 20:04.00 | wereHamster | ascii is useful.. you can watch videos in a simple terminal, without having to start the xserver |
| 20:05.14 | Guillotine | haha, thats awesome wereHamster |
| 20:06.03 | kneeki|atwork | That would be a sight to see |
| 20:06.10 | kneeki|atwork | kinda like the matrix. haha |
| 20:07.29 | kneeki|atwork | Hey Cog =) |
| 20:07.48 | cogwheel|work | 'ello |
| 20:08.04 | wereHamster | Guillotine, yeah, think about exploits etc.. |
| 20:08.31 | kneeki|atwork | I'd like to thank you btw Cog, your rude but informative behavior on the WoW UI forums makes my day =) |
| 20:08.57 | Guillotine | ya, <3 his posts |
| 20:09.03 | Guillotine | their not rude |
| 20:09.04 | Guillotine | just blunt |
| 20:09.10 | kneeki|atwork | rofl yep |
| 20:10.30 | kneeki|atwork | Ugh, what a pain |
| 20:10.45 | cogwheel|work | kneeki|atwork: XD |
| 20:10.52 | kneeki|atwork | It's so easy to get a players Bonus healing, but not global plus damage =P |
| 20:11.11 | cogwheel|work | Guillotine: sometimes they are... were you around when the 2.0 changes were first leaked? >< |
| 20:11.19 | kneeki|atwork | I guess I could just get the average from all spell trees |
| 20:11.32 | kneeki|atwork | lawl, that was hilarious |
| 20:11.36 | Guillotine | cogwheel: yes, but I just considered those responses very blunt :P |
| 20:11.41 | cogwheel|work | haha |
| 20:11.46 | kneeki|atwork | haha |
| 20:11.59 | Guillotine | very very blunt |
| 20:12.58 | kneeki|atwork | Doh... |
| 20:13.05 | kneeki|atwork | I guess getting the average wont work either |
| 20:13.08 | kneeki|atwork | =\ |
| 20:14.00 | Guillotine | I'm suprised you were able to put up with that at all :P Thats really when I stopped posting on the UI forums |
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| 21:14.58 | kneeki|atwork | Hmm, drat. Anyone have any ideas how I can go about getting the global + damage a player has other than scanning each buff and inventory item and tallying it up? |
| 21:17.04 | zenzelezz | doesn't the base UI do that? Or is that only some part of the +healing? |
| 21:17.08 | zenzelezz | er, +damage |
| 21:17.28 | kneeki|atwork | Well, I found sloukens code in the PaperDollFrame.lua, but its all kinds of crazy |
| 21:17.45 | zenzelezz | don't know then |
| 21:17.48 | JoshBorke | the paperdoll frame will report it, i'm sure it's not all that crazy |
| 21:17.58 | kneeki|atwork | hehe |
| 21:18.02 | kneeki|atwork | true that ;) |
| 21:20.07 | kneeki|atwork | I guess I'm just having trouble figuring out where he specifys this.bonusDamage[i] |
| 21:21.08 | JoshBorke | look at line 860? |
| 21:21.41 | kneeki|atwork | ... no, I was looking at line 959 |
| 21:21.43 | kneeki|atwork | Hmm |
| 21:22.51 | kneeki|atwork | Oh hey, line 860 looks like what I need =D |
| 21:24.31 | TC_Working | ~snare zenzelezz |
| 21:24.39 | TC_Working | hmm....guess not |
| 21:24.44 | kneeki|atwork | lawl |
| 21:24.52 | TC_Working | damit purl |
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| 21:25.23 | TC_Working | ~trap zenzelezz |
| 21:25.24 | purl | ACTION traps zenzelezz on the internet! |
| 21:25.37 | kneeki|atwork | haha |
| 21:25.37 | TC_Working | uhhh....not exactly what i was thinking |
| 21:25.48 | kneeki|atwork | now mess 'em up! |
| 21:25.56 | TC_Working | ~delete zenzelezz |
| 21:25.58 | purl | Segmentation fault. |
| 21:26.13 | TC_Working | ~wipe zenzelezz |
| 21:26.14 | purl | # dd if=/dev/zero of=zenzelezz |
| 21:26.18 | zenzelezz | agh, been so long I even got the spell name wrong |
| 21:26.22 | TC_Working | ~reformat zenzelezz |
| 21:26.27 | zenzelezz | Reckless Digitalization |
| 21:27.20 | TC_Working | noooooo!, not leisurely |
| 21:28.34 | [dRaCo] | when I backup my wtf folder, I can restore my current interface anytime, can't I? |
| 21:29.02 | kneeki|atwork | yep |
| 21:29.02 | zenzelezz | WTF is just settings, but if that's what you mean, yes |
| 21:29.07 | kneeki|atwork | unless it gets corrupted |
| 21:29.36 | [dRaCo] | yeah, the settings are enough... I know which addons I use ;) |
| 21:34.33 | Guillotine | Blizz's new attunemnt chart makes me nauseated o.O |
| 21:34.41 | JoshBorke | blizzard has one? |
| 21:34.55 | Guillotine | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/bcattunement/ |
| 21:34.58 | Guillotine | just released it |
| 21:35.03 | zenzelezz | came in the Insider mail today |
| 21:35.14 | TC_Working | yea, doenst work in FF though :( |
| 21:35.20 | zenzelezz | does in mine |
| 21:35.21 | TC_Working | properly* |
| 21:35.39 | Guillotine | works fine in my firefox |
| 21:35.45 | TC_Working | hmm..wouldnt click in mine |
| 21:36.05 | TC_Working | odd, works here at work but not at home |
| 21:36.30 | JoshBorke | works for me |
| 21:36.52 | zenzelezz | TC_Working: don't suppose you've got it Noscript'ed or something at home? |
| 21:37.03 | TC_Working | no, standard setuop |
| 21:37.06 | TC_Working | setup* |
| 21:37.09 | zenzelezz | peculiar |
| 21:37.12 | TC_Working | indeed |
| 21:37.19 | TC_Working | oh well, still looks nice |
| 21:38.56 | zenzelezz | Guillotine: considering this was what I knew before, I like Blizzard's: http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/9996/bcraiddiagrammnz4.jpg |
| 21:39.33 | Guillotine | ya, blizz's is much better o.O |
| 21:39.43 | TC_Working | yes but the blizzard one doesnt have "Yes it really is this complicated" at the top |
| 21:39.57 | zenzelezz | good point |
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| 21:40.19 | TC_Working | it just drops points for that lack |
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| 21:43.49 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 21:43.50 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 21:44.00 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 21:44.02 | purl | ACTION hugs JoshBorke |
| 21:44.02 | kneeki|atwork | purl, hug me |
| 21:44.03 | purl | ACTION hugs kneeki|atwork |
| 21:44.06 | kneeki|atwork | yay! |
| 21:44.12 | kneeki|atwork | I'm so huggable |
| 21:44.25 | kneeki|atwork | purl, hug yourself |
| 21:44.26 | purl | ACTION jumps into yourself's lap and huggles and *hugs* yourself |
| 21:44.31 | kneeki|atwork | hahahahha |
| 21:44.44 | kneeki|atwork | I <3 bots |
| 21:44.50 | JoshBorke | purl, hug purl |
| 21:44.51 | purl | ACTION hugs purl tightly until purl turns slightly blue |
| 21:44.59 | kneeki|atwork | rofl |
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| 21:56.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/factions/hellfire/hellfire.xml |
| 21:56.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | double click the items, haha |
| 21:57.30 | [dRaCo] | yay |
| 21:57.31 | Shirik | ack |
| 21:57.35 | Shirik | it takes 5 years to open up >< |
| 21:57.45 | JoshBorke | heh, cute |
| 21:57.53 | zenzelezz | omg... I love that config reference |
| 21:58.03 | [dRaCo] | i wonder if they explode after like 100 clicks :D |
| 21:58.06 | zenzelezz | never had so much fun configuring a sound card |
| 21:58.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's different every time zenz |
| 21:58.51 | Shirik | haha that's awesome |
| 21:59.15 | Shirik | oooh |
| 21:59.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | but yes, i heard that in metzen's (i'm pretty sure that's metzen) voice as soon as i double clicked |
| 21:59.16 | Shirik | lucky numbers |
| 21:59.22 | Shirik | I'll have to remember that when I go back to the casino tonight |
| 22:01.04 | nevcairiel | arent that the numbers from lost? |
| 22:01.04 | nevcairiel | i am not sure tho. |
| 22:01.04 | Shirik | I don't watch lost |
| 22:01.04 | Shirik | hell I don't watch tv |
| 22:01.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i think so |
| 22:01.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | also something about a gnomish tinfoil hat |
| 22:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't find it :[ |
| 22:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | hiding your character from the armory and whatnot |
| 22:04.56 | Shirik | right, gonna head out now |
| 22:04.56 | Shirik | see you all in a bit :) |
| 22:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | go away |
| 22:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 22:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | see ya |
| 22:05.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 22:05.00 | Shirik | T_T |
| 22:05.10 | Shirik | Oh yeah... |
| 22:05.18 | Shirik | well I have a Belize t-shirt, and you don't :P |
| 22:05.27 | Shirik | and that's exactly what it says on it |
| 22:05.40 | Shirik | cya :P |
| 22:05.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | see ya |
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| 22:15.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | Yes, this will work in 2.1: |
| 22:15.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | eep |
| 22:15.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | /equip [modifier:alt] item:25640 |
| 22:15.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's difficult to keep up with the 2.1 revisions, i missed that until today :O |
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| 22:17.57 | cogwheel|work | I love that /cast [help] Some Heal; [target=targettarget, help] Some Heal; [target=player] Some Heal will change to /cast [help] [target=targettarget] [target=player] Some Heal |
| 22:18.58 | zenzelezz | couldn't you use , inside [] before? I'm macro nub so I probably misunderstood something |
| 22:20.56 | Karrion | zenzelezz: yes you could, but , is "and", this is "or" |
| 22:21.39 | zenzelezz | I see, so it will use the first matching []? |
| 22:21.44 | cogwheel|work | yep |
| 22:22.05 | kneeki|atwork | man... i'm seriously considering signing up for MetroPipe -_- |
| 22:23.04 | zenzelezz | what's that? |
| 22:25.34 | kneeki|atwork | Because I'm paranoid with the RIAA and DRM, and my employers -_- |
| 22:25.52 | kneeki|atwork | 100 bucks a year for complete privacy is... nice |
| 22:26.05 | zenzelezz | you misread the W word |
| 22:26.12 | kneeki|atwork | You can even setup your bit torrent/messengers for it |
| 22:26.15 | kneeki|atwork | W word? |
| 22:26.22 | cogwheel|work | "what" not "why" |
| 22:26.23 | zenzelezz | I asked What, not Why |
| 22:26.29 | kneeki|atwork | .... |
| 22:26.32 | kneeki|atwork | you shaddup. haha |
| 22:26.52 | kneeki|atwork | MetroPipe allows you to do what I just mentioned, that's what it is anyway =) |
| 22:26.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know what metropipe is either :x |
| 22:27.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it a proxy? |
| 22:27.14 | zenzelezz | maybe a smoker's lounge on the metro |
| 22:27.20 | kneeki|atwork | The MetroPipe Tunneler is a Private Browsing service with many privacy enhancing features |
| 22:27.23 | kneeki|atwork | http://www.metropipe.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 22:27.29 | kneeki|atwork | Yeah, just a proxy |
| 22:27.36 | kneeki|atwork | off US soil |
| 22:27.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://tor.eff.org |
| 22:27.53 | Bleeter | tor ftw! |
| 22:28.21 | kneeki|atwork | oo |
| 22:28.28 | kneeki|atwork | that looks free |
| 22:28.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | only thing is there's no way to be truly anonymous on bittorrent |
| 22:28.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it is |
| 22:28.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | because how bittorrent works, seeds/peers/trackers have to see your IP to get anything done |
| 22:29.04 | kneeki|atwork | yeah, i think that the RIAA is cracking down on P2P users (kazaa and the like) more so than bittorrent users |
| 22:29.34 | kneeki|atwork | but what kinda scares me, is that any bit torrent user, can see the IP of everyone they are downloading from w/ just a few clicks |
| 22:29.35 | zenzelezz | RIAA is an abomination |
| 22:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | use private trackers if you're being dodgy about things |
| 22:30.06 | kneeki|atwork | private trackers? |
| 22:30.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | kneek, you can see the IP of everyone you're connected to with pretty much anything |
| 22:30.18 | kneeki|atwork | and yeah, that's true. |
| 22:30.36 | kneeki|atwork | unless you use a proxy tho correct? |
| 22:30.50 | Bleeter | meh, I wouldn't be worried about someone knowing my IP. that one can easily derive the operating system from an IP without connecting to the host, tho, is 'fun' |
| 22:30.55 | kneeki|atwork | then they would get that proxy's address, not yours. |
| 22:31.00 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 22:31.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, but proxies don't work well with bittorrent |
| 22:31.15 | JoshBorke | embedded ftl :-( |
| 22:32.02 | Canute | a tunnel is basicly a proxy with enchanced features. I am able to play WoW through SSH tunneling when im at school for instance. |
| 22:32.19 | kneeki|atwork | Ah |
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| 22:32.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | does it work well with torrents, canute? |
| 22:32.41 | Canute | I havn't tried, but i can't see why not |
| 22:32.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure if you're getting torrents working in any way, you're not being truly anonymous |
| 22:32.52 | kneeki|atwork | same |
| 22:32.55 | Karrion | Step 1. create web/p2p proxy; 2. advertise it as a free service to people interested in surfing/downloading anonymously; 3. sell log file to RIAA/MPAA/etc; 4. profit! |
| 22:33.09 | kneeki|atwork | haha! |
| 22:33.20 | kneeki|atwork | which is why free proxy's scare me |
| 22:33.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the thing about tor, Karrion, how it works none of the nodes can tell whos doing what |
| 22:33.31 | kneeki|atwork | MetroPipe costs $$$ |
| 22:33.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially when you're in the tor network itself |
| 22:33.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | .onion sites and whatnot |
| 22:33.56 | Canute | Karrion, i was thinking the exact same thing. Before I'd even sign up to a service that charges me, I'd require some kind of legal contract that they are deleting logs and such |
| 22:34.11 | Karrion | yeah, though you can identify people using tor, just not what they were using it for |
| 22:34.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | right |
| 22:34.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | which isn't illegal or anything, it's perfectly legitimate |
| 22:34.49 | Karrion | heh, which isn't illegal... _yet_ :-/ |
| 22:34.55 | kneeki|atwork | *nod* |
| 22:35.11 | Canute | Luckily I don't live in the US :) |
| 22:35.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how it could be, it's a perfectly viable way to dodge hackers |
| 22:35.43 | kneeki|atwork | Aye, that's another thing that caught my eye |
| 22:35.53 | Karrion | anything can be illegal given sufficient money paid to politicians |
| 22:36.02 | kneeki|atwork | I'm not sure if Tor encrypts data between you and your proxy, but MetroPipe does |
| 22:36.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you wanna really go paranoid you can keep your IP private and deal with slow internet and no p2p support and never give out your ip |
| 22:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | tor does |
| 22:36.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | each hop is encrypted |
| 22:36.28 | kneeki|atwork | ah neat |
| 22:36.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really, karrion :x |
| 22:36.36 | kneeki|atwork | is there a bandwidth limit? |
| 22:36.44 | Karrion | I'm not saying it should be obviously... but I bet there are people who'd like ti to be |
| 22:36.58 | kneeki|atwork | I agree Karrion |
| 22:37.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on the route you take kneeki |
| 22:37.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think there is one hardcapped |
| 22:37.08 | kneeki|atwork | Ah |
| 22:37.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | but each node may have one set |
| 22:37.16 | kneeki|atwork | Oh I see |
| 22:37.32 | kneeki|atwork | Is there a way to look at the nodes configurations as you hop through them? |
| 22:37.38 | kneeki|atwork | or are you kinda blind |
| 22:37.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | not their max speed |
| 22:37.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | just their name and # of users i think |
| 22:37.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, you get a bandwidth graph |
| 22:38.03 | kneeki|atwork | ah |
| 22:38.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | you go through 3 nodes at a time, and i think it's random |
| 22:38.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it tries to pair you with ones you ping well to |
| 22:38.41 | kneeki|atwork | Hmmm |
| 22:41.07 | kneeki|atwork | Well, I can't seem to find in the MetroPipe wiki any info about hopping through nodes |
| 22:41.18 | kneeki|atwork | they make it sound like its a direct link to the off shore proxy |
| 22:42.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't sound very secure |
| 22:43.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | tor's pretty much as secure as you can physically get, especially within hidden services |
| 22:43.19 | kneeki|atwork | Thats insane |
| 22:43.23 | kneeki|atwork | especially since its free |
| 22:43.37 | Canute | well, it's not very fast |
| 22:43.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on the service/nodes |
| 22:43.57 | Bleeter | eff+ |
| 22:44.00 | Bleeter | er |
| 22:44.01 | Canute | ok, let me rephrase. It's not that stable. |
| 22:44.05 | Bleeter | eff++ |
| 22:44.07 | Canute | (the speed) |
| 22:44.19 | kneeki|atwork | Ah |
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| 23:03.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not that paranoid, i just use tor to mess around with :p |
| 23:03.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | see what kinda stuff people deem necessary for use inside hidden services and whatnot :p |
| 23:03.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | lots of crazy tinfoilhatters on there though hehe |
| 23:05.10 | kneeki|atwork | rofl, i have no doubt! |
| 23:05.46 | kneeki|atwork | i just installed Tor =P |
| 23:05.50 | kneeki|atwork | playin around with it now |
| 23:06.47 | kneeki|atwork | wow, not very fast at all -_- |
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| 23:07.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on the nodes :x |
| 23:08.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes i get 150k+, sometimes 10k+ |
| 23:08.08 | KaoS` | soo when are they going to buff shammies? any idea? |
| 23:08.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | what do shamans need? |
| 23:08.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than maybe a little more control in enhancement |
| 23:08.33 | zenzelezz | they get to be alliance now, that's a big enough buff |
| 23:08.39 | kneeki|atwork | lol |
| 23:09.04 | KaoS` | ehh for one, fix WF. |
| 23:09.17 | kneeki|atwork | Windfury? |
| 23:09.20 | KaoS` | yes |
| 23:09.25 | kneeki|atwork | What's wrong with it? |
| 23:09.37 | KaoS` | having to use rank 5 and 4 instead of just 5 and 5, becuase of this "hidden" cool down on procs sucks |
| 23:09.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's got a 3 second proc timer |
| 23:09.46 | KaoS` | and it does not proc anywhere close to "20%" |
| 23:10.01 | kneeki|atwork | Atually it does |
| 23:10.08 | kneeki|atwork | I wrote a mod to test my proc rates |
| 23:10.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | do a test of 1000 swings and see |
| 23:10.17 | kneeki|atwork | You can get the procwatch mod I think to test it yourself |
| 23:10.22 | KaoS` | if you do 5/5 ? |
| 23:10.32 | KaoS` | or 5/4 ? |
| 23:10.44 | KaoS` | many many posts about it in shammy forums.. |
| 23:10.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | 5/5 was already fixed |
| 23:10.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | afaik |
| 23:10.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | er 5/4 |
| 23:12.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | in 2.0.10, was it not? |
| 23:12.24 | KaoS` | nope |
| 23:12.31 | KaoS` | well some say yes, some say no |
| 23:12.36 | KaoS` | most are now saying no |
| 23:12.43 | KaoS` | but still blizzard doesn't say why we have to use rank 4/5.. |
| 23:12.46 | kneeki|atwork | Well, I doubt any of them actually did tests to confirm that |
| 23:12.48 | KaoS` | and why we can't use 5/5 |
| 23:12.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can |
| 23:12.58 | KaoS` | and the tool tip says nothing about "3 second cool down" |
| 23:12.58 | kneeki|atwork | Also, that's not a UI thing, that's a developer thing |
| 23:13.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | they've said 5/4 wasn't working as intended and they're making it the same as using 5/5 |
| 23:13.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | the cooldown is intended however |
| 23:13.29 | KaoS` | hehe I know.. lol just making a silly statement :) |
| 23:13.48 | MentalPower | interesting, it turns out that my router has been broadcasting DHCP to the public internet |
| 23:13.51 | KaoS` | well then shouldn't they add that in the game? lolol :) |
| 23:13.51 | MentalPower | rather funny actually |
| 23:13.52 | zenzelezz | anything marked % shouldn't be too heavily speculated abouty |
| 23:13.53 | zenzelezz | -y |
| 23:13.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | just like battle stance doesn't say it decreases your theat by 20% |
| 23:14.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | tooltips aren't always all inclusive |
| 23:14.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | personally i think the 1 proc per 3 sec should be limited per weapon |
| 23:15.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Imbue the Shaman's weapon with wind. Each hit has a 20% chance of dealing additional damage equal to two extra attacks with 445 extra attack power. Lasts 30 minutes. |
| 23:15.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | |
| 23:15.33 | KaoS` | enhac shammys also have no survivability in pvp at all.... |
| 23:15.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | adding in a 'This effect may only work every 3 seconds.' is starting to get lengthy |
| 23:15.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | moreso than a druid in kitty form :p |
| 23:15.59 | KaoS` | ohh wow.. a druid in kitty form.. lol |
| 23:16.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | kitty druid = quick death |
| 23:17.29 | KaoS` | just makes me said |
| 23:17.31 | KaoS` | we get DW.. |
| 23:17.34 | kneeki|atwork | lol |
| 23:17.48 | KaoS` | and now we suck even more than we did before. |
| 23:17.56 | kneeki|atwork | It sounds like you are having more issues with your playstyle than the class |
| 23:18.02 | KaoS` | naaa.. lol |
| 23:18.03 | kneeki|atwork | The class is fine, I assure you. |
| 23:18.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | so do bear druids :[ |
| 23:18.05 | kneeki|atwork | =) |
| 23:18.12 | KaoS` | go look at the shammy forum |
| 23:18.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't had any issues with survivability |
| 23:18.18 | KaoS` | think every shammy is complaining bad. |
| 23:18.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | on mine |
| 23:18.25 | kneeki|atwork | lol |
| 23:18.29 | kneeki|atwork | My shaman is fine also =P |
| 23:18.38 | KaoS` | pve its great. |
| 23:18.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm only 50 though |
| 23:18.42 | KaoS` | restro is great |
| 23:18.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm enjoying the extra survivability over cat form |
| 23:18.54 | KaoS` | ele is ok.. for both pvp and pve.. but not great. |
| 23:19.09 | KaoS` | shman 0wn at raids/pve. |
| 23:19.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get slaughtered in cat form, bear form's worthless in pvp |
| 23:19.19 | KaoS` | but pvp.. we just suck. no matter your spec. |
| 23:19.21 | KaoS` | or your gear.. :P |
| 23:19.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't had problems with mine yet |
| 23:19.31 | KaoS` | at 70? |
| 23:19.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i kill level 59s of other classes at 50 |
| 23:19.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | so |
| 23:19.37 | kneeki|atwork | lol |
| 23:19.40 | KaoS` | right |
| 23:19.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not having any problems |
| 23:19.43 | KaoS` | at lower lvls |
| 23:19.48 | KaoS` | shammies own |
| 23:19.50 | KaoS` | at 70 |
| 23:19.56 | KaoS` | its a hole nothing thing |
| 23:19.59 | kneeki|atwork | whats your name KaoS? I'll Armory you and give you my advice =P |
| 23:20.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was top of WSG at 50 in a 50-59 bracket, including people that have been to hellfire peninsula |
| 23:20.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | with all the extra stam and bc stuff |
| 23:20.29 | kneeki|atwork | BC stamina owns all |
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| 23:20.44 | KaoS` | the other thing I don't like.. is our fire/earth elemental totems.. 20 min cool down... after we drop them.. and since they are a totem, once they are dropped, they can't move anywhere.. |
| 23:20.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | me in my sm armor killing 59s solo before they hurt me |
| 23:20.50 | kneeki|atwork | To go from 4k hp unbuffed pre bc, to 9.7k unbuffed fury is amazing |
| 23:20.52 | KaoS` | so if you are done, and need to move on, and they are alive. you just leave them.. :( |
| 23:20.54 | KaoS` | its sad. |
| 23:21.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | kneeki|atwork |
| 23:21.21 | kneeki|atwork | Yes master? |
| 23:21.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went from 9k in bear form to 11k :[ |
| 23:21.37 | kneeki|atwork | Your a bear, I'm a fury warrior =P |
| 23:21.42 | zenzelezz | BC stamina is nice, but it's unbalanced |
| 23:21.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying my change was super minor |
| 23:21.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | compared to everyone else :/ |
| 23:21.52 | kneeki|atwork | I agree |
| 23:21.54 | zenzelezz | my HP doubles, my armor goes up 1.4k |
| 23:22.00 | zenzelezz | maybe 2k now |
| 23:22.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still at 3k armor in caster form :[ |
| 23:22.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 7k hp in cat gear :/ |
| 23:22.47 | zenzelezz | and to compensate for the extra HP everyone has, we'll make mobs hit tanks for 4k |
| 23:22.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i go for more stam i hit like an old lady :[ |
| 23:23.02 | kneeki|atwork | lol |
| 23:23.16 | kneeki|atwork | Getting hit as a tank for 4k sucks |
| 23:23.33 | kneeki|atwork | Luckily, if your 490+ defense, you cant be crit, but still |
| 23:24.43 | zenzelezz | I can live with getting hit for 4k, but it would be nice if casters didn't get one-shotted |
| 23:24.57 | zenzelezz | even if they do survive one hit, the mobs that hit that hard are immune to taunt |
| 23:25.15 | kneeki|atwork | mhmm, a 4k hit to a warrior is a big blow, a 4k unmidigated hit to a caster turns into somewhere around 9-10k |
| 23:25.24 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 23:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | my defense won't go up :[ |
| 23:25.37 | zenzelezz | most mobs don't hit that hard, but there's still more of them than I like |
| 23:25.50 | kneeki|atwork | lol |
| 23:26.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait, skills are capped at 350 right? |
| 23:26.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | professions go up to 375, but skills are 350, right? |
| 23:26.11 | zenzelezz | what skills? |
| 23:26.12 | KaoS` | 375 |
| 23:26.15 | kneeki|atwork | ya |
| 23:26.19 | kneeki|atwork | 350 |
| 23:26.24 | kneeki|atwork | professiosn are 375 |
| 23:26.28 | cogwheel|work | 5 times your level |
| 23:26.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh okay |
| 23:26.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | so my defense is 364, which is kinda shoddy, but if i get much more i drop a ton of stam :/ |
| 23:27.03 | zenzelezz | 370 talented defense, then gear |
| 23:27.06 | KaoS` | weapon skills = 350 |
| 23:27.24 | KaoS` | prof/secondary skills = 375 |
| 23:27.35 | kneeki|atwork | yep |
| 23:27.40 | kneeki|atwork | dont forget sockets |
| 23:27.46 | kneeki|atwork | +6 defense gems are easy to come by |
| 23:28.00 | kneeki|atwork | or +4 def, 4 sta i think |
| 23:28.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | not much of the druid tanking gear has sockets :[ |
| 23:28.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Raybeez |
| 23:30.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i have a -3.56% chance to be crit, which is equal to how much defense/ |
| 23:30.38 | kneeki|atwork | 1 pt of defense rating = .04% |
| 23:31.00 | kneeki|atwork | so 89 defense |
| 23:31.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess that's not -too- bad |
| 23:31.27 | kneeki|atwork | I love my druid |
| 23:31.32 | kneeki|atwork | lvl 60 still tho, almost 61 |
| 23:33.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | tried tanking without lacerate yet? |
| 23:33.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's....frightening :[ |
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| 23:33.54 | kneeki|atwork | if i want to tank, i'll do it on my awrrior =) |
| 23:35.26 | kneeki|atwork | oi |
| 23:35.36 | kneeki|atwork | Tor making browsing almost to a standstill |
| 23:35.40 | kneeki|atwork | *shakes fist* |
| 23:36.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | go to vidalia and hit view network |
| 23:36.13 | kneeki|atwork | here's my druid: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Black+Dragonflight&n=Kneeki |
| 23:36.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | then hit new identity, it may get you a better node |
| 23:36.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | also get the torbutton extension for firefox |
| 23:36.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you use FF |
| 23:36.39 | kneeki|atwork | i do, and have it |
| 23:36.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can turn it off for normal web browsing and back on for paranoia mode |
| 23:36.52 | kneeki|atwork | also have privoxy (it came with the install) |
| 23:38.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never use privoxy for anything it just kinda sits there, hehe |
| 23:38.34 | kneeki|atwork | yeah... i was wondering that |
| 23:38.52 | kneeki|atwork | cause Tor does most everything, i think Pirvoxy is just for adblocking and stuff |
| 23:38.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think vidalia interfaces with it |
| 23:39.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just does it all automagically |
| 23:39.33 | kneeki|atwork | ah |
| 23:39.45 | kneeki|atwork | Vidalia is just an extention for Tor? |
| 23:40.09 | kneeki|atwork | errr |
| 23:40.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a lot easier to use than torrc, which was the control panel for it before vidalia hit |
| 23:40.15 | kneeki|atwork | ... i have it already |
| 23:40.33 | kneeki|atwork | it has all the same options i'm using now. I just dont see the name vidalia anywhere |
| 23:40.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the onion icon in your systray |
| 23:41.12 | kneeki|atwork | don't have an onion, i have a cable i think |
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| 23:41.21 | kneeki|atwork | oh your right |
| 23:41.26 | kneeki|atwork | its an onion, just looks like a cable |
| 23:41.27 | kneeki|atwork | -_- |
| 23:41.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | tor stands for the onion router |
| 23:42.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | check your pm's |
| 23:42.55 | wereHamster | What happened on february 14? http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/screenshot1.png |
| 23:43.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | valentines day? :O |
| 23:43.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | some hot server on server action? |
| 23:44.03 | wereHamster | just one file thas was being downloaded, and google can't find any links to it |
| 23:45.10 | Corrodias | why do active investors prefer scotttrade?tttttttttttttttttttttttirade? |
| 23:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | because you touch yourself at night |
| 23:47.28 | Corrodias | yeah i do :D |
| 23:47.32 | sioraiocht | who doesn't? |
| 23:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | people with no arms |
| 23:51.39 | sioraiocht | maybe they use their feet |
| 23:51.41 | sioraiocht | or their mouth |
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| 23:52.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | that takes a lot of skill |
| 23:52.45 | sioraiocht | not really, just flexibility |
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