| 00:00.05 | Shirik | an entire ui? |
| 00:00.17 | Seracht | um I just want to see some examples :) |
| 00:00.26 | Shirik | hm, ok let me get a screenshot for you |
| 00:00.31 | Seracht | heh ok |
| 00:00.41 | Seracht | i cannot seem to find any pries tuis on the UI forums |
| 00:01.11 | JoshBorke | meh, i just have unit frames and use clique |
| 00:01.13 | JoshBorke | oh, and i'm a shadow priest |
| 00:01.17 | JoshBorke | but mendwatch is uber |
| 00:01.17 | Seracht | heh |
| 00:01.21 | Seracht | whats clique |
| 00:01.28 | cladhaire | ~clique |
| 00:01.30 | purl | clique is probably a click-casting addon by Cladhaire, which you can download from WoWInterface: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5108-Clique.html |
| 00:01.32 | JoshBorke | blast you clad |
| 00:01.40 | cladhaire | pwnt |
| 00:01.41 | Shirik | You may not like my layout, I warn you :P |
| 00:01.51 | Shirik | but I figured I'd show you how I have it set up |
| 00:01.54 | Seracht | oh wait |
| 00:01.59 | JoshBorke | i have no recent screenshots |
| 00:02.02 | Seracht | its like a button beside unit frames |
| 00:02.04 | Seracht | I get it |
| 00:02.12 | JoshBorke | i recently wrote my own Misery/Shadow Mastery tracker |
| 00:02.13 | JoshBorke | no it's not |
| 00:02.15 | Seracht | oh |
| 00:02.22 | JoshBorke | Seracht: go to the website, you'll see |
| 00:02.42 | Seracht | ok |
| 00:02.46 | Seracht | i get it now |
| 00:02.46 | Seracht | heh |
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| 00:05.23 | JoshBorke | ~dict cretin |
| 00:05.55 | Seracht | in the default ui can I hide the exp bar |
| 00:06.00 | Shirik | a bad example but http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=priestuigz2.jpg |
| 00:06.18 | Shirik | it works just like clique |
| 00:06.23 | Seracht | oh |
| 00:06.25 | Shirik | the frames at the bottom show everyone in the raid, click on them to cast |
| 00:06.34 | Seracht | cool |
| 00:06.44 | Shirik | left click is heal, shift left to target, right click flash heal, shift right shield, mid click renew |
| 00:06.50 | Shirik | then I have another set of frames with downranked heals |
| 00:07.11 | Shirik | It flashes red if they're low health, flashes blue/yellow if debuffed (and then there's another set of frames to click on to decurse with single click) |
| 00:07.12 | Shirik | etc. |
| 00:08.02 | Shirik | oh and fades when out of range |
| 00:11.36 | Corrodias | do any of you know from experience if Elixir of Major Agility (+agi & +crit) will stack with Elixir of Greater Agility (+agi)? |
| 00:12.10 | Shirik | I doubt it, but can't say for sure |
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| 00:19.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Vashj is down! |
| 00:19.14 | cladhaire | welcome to 1.5 hours ago |
| 00:19.18 | cladhaire | ≠) |
| 00:19.23 | bleeter | h4x! |
| 00:19.23 | cladhaire | did they get her a second time due to the bug? |
| 00:19.24 | Kirkburn|afk | You smell :( |
| 00:19.31 | Kirkburn|afk | http://nihilum.co.uk/news/41/ |
| 00:19.34 | Shadowed | Did anyone actually get the arena bug of opponents showing up in combat log before the game starts bug? Have played like 400 matches and never seen it |
| 00:19.41 | JoshBorke | ~whaleslap cladhaire |
| 00:19.42 | purl | ACTION beats cladhaire upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 00:20.01 | Shadowed | Apparently she has a soulstone! |
| 00:20.19 | Mortius | is there a way I could move a texture or label (font string) once I'm in game? I've tried using :SetPosition(x, x) but I get an error. I would like to do it that way so I dont have to keep making small adjustments in my .xml and then reloading my ui over and over |
| 00:20.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyhoo, drops and some info - http://www.wowwiki.com/Lady_Vashj_%28tactics%29 |
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| 00:23.44 | Kirkburn|afk | More awesome if that ClearFont is in the screenshots ;) |
| 00:23.53 | JoshBorke | wtf, why only 4 vials? |
| 00:25.55 | JoshBorke | where are the GMs to kill off the second vashj... |
| 00:26.25 | Kirkburn|afk | I guess it means they can get a second set of loot? :P |
| 00:27.04 | JoshBorke | but only 4 vials |
| 00:27.14 | cladhaire | another cockblock |
| 00:27.16 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 00:27.20 | JoshBorke | that's ridiculous |
| 00:27.25 | Shadowed | not really |
| 00:27.33 | Shadowed | don't you need tempest keep to reach hyjal too? |
| 00:27.41 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 00:28.36 | Shadowed | They've always interduced something at different points to limit how fast you progress anyway, but it's weird that they're releasing black temple already |
| 00:28.59 | JoshBorke | i think the progression that is happening is really good |
| 00:29.44 | JoshBorke | but 4 vials means at least 8 times for killing her, assuming 4 vials drop every time |
| 00:29.46 | Shadowed | Well, at 4 vials a kill thats around 6-8 weeks to get 25-30 people keyed for hyjal meaning they wont be inside hyjal for probably another 3-4 months |
| 00:30.03 | JoshBorke | which id on't think they'll be in hyjal within 2 months even if everyone got a vial |
| 00:30.23 | Shadowed | which is why releasing black temple already is silly |
| 00:30.35 | JoshBorke | i think BT is at least a month away |
| 00:30.44 | JoshBorke | and i bet there will be some attunement requirements |
| 00:31.07 | Shadowed | well, thats 3-4 months just to get into hyjal not counting how long it takes to beat it |
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| 00:31.47 | JoshBorke | yea, BT seems soon |
| 00:32.14 | Shadowed | Naxx took I believe, 2-3 months from PTR release to live? |
| 00:33.10 | JoshBorke | something like that |
| 00:33.30 | JoshBorke | that's why this is an unnecessary cockblock |
| 00:33.36 | Mr_Rabies | holy crap |
| 00:33.49 | Shadowed | wouldn't say unnecessary at all |
| 00:33.57 | Mr_Rabies | after watching GTA4 trailer, i actually at there with my mouth open for a few seconds :O |
| 00:34.37 | Shadowed | i'd imagine they want to limit how fast the top top guilds go through dungeons, and once they become more "main stream" zones either by nerfs or other gear upgrades they don't want people skipping them and just going to hyjal |
| 00:34.50 | Seracht | you guys got a 360? |
| 00:34.52 | JoshBorke | no, the vials are fine |
| 00:34.58 | JoshBorke | the fact that only 4 vials dropped is my issue |
| 00:35.13 | cladhaire | how many would have made it okay? |
| 00:35.15 | Mr_Rabies | yes, seracht, why? |
| 00:35.20 | cladhaire | they _want_ timesinks. |
| 00:35.45 | Shadowed | keying keeps you from skipping dungeons too |
| 00:35.58 | Shadowed | annyway, must go |
| 00:36.04 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: 25 |
| 00:36.09 | TC_Working | http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/index2.html |
| 00:37.06 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: that wouldn't be a timesink |
| 00:37.10 | cladhaire | that would be a one-quest attunement |
| 00:37.14 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 00:37.16 | cladhaire | i mean i agree, but =) |
| 00:38.01 | JoshBorke | only gotta kill gruul once, only gotta kill nightbane once |
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| 00:38.29 | Shadowed | not really |
| 00:38.52 | JoshBorke | well, as far as i know anyway |
| 00:38.54 | Shadowed | nightbane is a 10 man zone, meaning it's 3 weeks if you only have one kara raid, or 2-3 depending on the progression of both raids |
| 00:39.11 | JoshBorke | each person only has to kill them once |
| 00:39.37 | Shadowed | pretty sure they've said that gruul is just a gateway dungeon to SSC, same with mag |
| 00:43.05 | Mr_Rabies | took me like 2 hours to install some simple printer drivers @____@ |
| 00:43.15 | Mr_Rabies | when i installed it on 2 other machines in <30 seconds |
| 00:43.43 | Mr_Rabies | windows defender was all 'i can't let you do that dave' and confused the installer |
| 00:44.52 | Mr_Rabies | blahhh and it still won't install >:| |
| 00:54.27 | Shirik | 20:43:07 ‹Mr_Rabies› took me like 2 hours to install some simple printer drivers @____@ |
| 00:54.29 | Shirik | .... |
| 00:54.34 | Shirik | how |
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| 00:54.41 | Mr_Rabies | they're still not installing, garararggh |
| 00:54.43 | Shirik | what could possibly take you 2 hours >< |
| 00:55.00 | Mr_Rabies | continuously uninstalling, restarting, installing, etc |
| 00:55.03 | Mr_Rabies | eep |
| 00:55.07 | Mr_Rabies | i need to turn off the version spam |
| 00:55.13 | Shirik | heh actually that was useful :P |
| 00:55.19 | Shirik | though I didn't expect to see it |
| 00:55.52 | Shirik | what's wrong with it? |
| 00:55.58 | Shirik | (the driver) |
| 00:56.39 | Mr_Rabies | "cannot install the drivers at this time. try restarting" |
| 00:56.46 | Mr_Rabies | after windows defender jumped at it |
| 00:56.46 | Shirik | that's all it says? lol |
| 00:56.51 | Shirik | ah that pos |
| 00:56.59 | Shirik | usb or parallel? |
| 00:57.06 | Mr_Rabies | ethernet |
| 00:57.10 | Mr_Rabies | it's a network printer |
| 00:57.27 | Shirik | ahh |
| 00:59.24 | Mr_Rabies | it's awesome too |
| 00:59.26 | Mr_Rabies | the funny thing is |
| 00:59.37 | Mr_Rabies | it's a dell printer, and a dell laptop is throwing fits on installing the drivers |
| 01:00.22 | Mr_Rabies | whereas the other computers are having no problems at alll |
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| 01:07.59 | Kaso | Is the xp -> cash conversion at lvl 70 still 1600xp = 1g ? |
| 01:10.37 | JoshBorke | from wowac: ehttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=new+york,+ny&daddr=Dublin,+Ireland&sll=57.984808,-55.019531&sspn=72.354033,164.53125&layer=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=4&ll=48.166085,-36.5625&spn=43.171238,82.265625 |
| 01:11.53 | cladhaire | I may be moving to Dublin |
| 01:12.11 | JoshBorke | you gonna use google's directions? |
| 01:12.43 | cladhaire | no, i think i'll just fly =) |
| 01:13.06 | JoshBorke | nerf druids :-P |
| 01:14.01 | cladhaire | indeed =) |
| 01:14.03 | Mr_Rabies | "Swim across the Atlantic Ocean" |
| 01:14.08 | Mr_Rabies | step 23 |
| 01:19.43 | JoshBorke | apparently you have to go through england to get to portugal |
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| 01:40.35 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: do yous till have your coroutine code you played with? |
| 01:41.03 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 01:41.15 | purl | ACTION hugs JoshBorke tightly until JoshBorke turns slightly blue |
| 01:41.15 | cladhaire | no, but i can coroutine something if you want me to |
| 01:41.19 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 01:41.20 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn and suddenly hugs Cairenn tightly |
| 01:41.22 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:41.28 | Shirik | it really does say swim across the atlantic ocean? |
| 01:41.31 | JoshBorke | i just wanted to look at it to see how/when you chose to yield |
| 01:41.49 | Nom- | LOL |
| 01:41.57 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: I yielded after each decompression |
| 01:42.06 | cladhaire | resumed onupdate |
| 01:42.09 | Shirik | that makes perfect sense to me |
| 01:42.13 | Shirik | that's precisely how I'd do it |
| 01:42.16 | Nom- | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=new+york,+ny&daddr=Dublin,+Ireland&sll=57.984808,-55.019531&sspn=72.354033,164.53125&layer=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=4&ll=48.166085,-36.5625&spn=43.171238,82.265625 |
| 01:42.21 | Nom- | lol |
| 01:42.24 | Shirik | maybe give it a little downtime |
| 01:42.27 | Shirik | like wait for 5 updates |
| 01:42.29 | Shirik | then continue |
| 01:42.35 | Nom- | nice one JoshBorke |
| 01:42.42 | Shirik | but if it's performing ok on every update, sounds good to me |
| 01:42.44 | JoshBorke | Nom-: give credit to the guys in wowace, i just cross posted it |
| 01:43.20 | Nom- | You posted it here, therefore you get praise. |
| 01:43.42 | JoshBorke | (i'm slow so bear with me) so how is that different than doing it in the OnUpdate since won't wow have to switch to the coroutine thread which would run until the yield then continue the other OnUpdates? |
| 01:43.56 | JoshBorke | and then a thought just popped into my head, coroutines already keep all their state stuff |
| 01:44.04 | JoshBorke | so you don't have to muck with that sotr of thing |
| 01:44.49 | JoshBorke | there aren't many courses on threading at my school |
| 01:45.05 | Nom- | 4,309 mi (about 29 days 19 hours) |
| 01:45.13 | Shirik | with the swimming? |
| 01:45.26 | Nom- | I guess so, Shirik :) |
| 01:45.27 | Shirik | that's some damn fast swiming |
| 01:45.49 | Nom- | not really |
| 01:45.53 | Nom- | if you do the math |
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| 01:46.11 | Nom- | let's assume 29 days for the swimming, 19 hours for the rest |
| 01:46.31 | Shirik | what rest? |
| 01:46.35 | Shirik | ohj |
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| 01:46.40 | Shirik | thought you meant like rest in the middle of the ocean |
| 01:46.46 | Nom- | That's 696 hours for 3462 miles |
| 01:47.03 | Nom- | Which is just 4.97 miles per hour |
| 01:47.44 | Shirik | that's still pretty fast |
| 01:47.47 | Shirik | faster than most walk |
| 01:47.49 | zenzelezz | there are some nasty currents out there |
| 01:47.53 | Shirik | and currents are cray |
| 01:47.54 | Shirik | ya |
| 01:48.06 | Shirik | well I guess currents might help you too |
| 01:48.13 | Shirik | of course this is the most pointless argument I've ever seen |
| 01:48.14 | JoshBorke | just go with the motion of the ocean ;-) |
| 01:48.22 | JoshBorke | it's a discussion, not an argument :-P |
| 01:48.31 | Shirik | meh |
| 01:48.34 | Shirik | same difference |
| 01:48.50 | Nom- | Shirik is just a confrontational person |
| 01:49.04 | Shirik | Nah I just use the word "argument" too much |
| 01:49.11 | zenzelezz | unsuccessful troll :-) |
| 01:49.12 | Shirik | I never mean it negatively |
| 01:49.20 | Nom- | See? He's trying to argue still! |
| 01:49.25 | Shirik | .. |
| 01:49.29 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 01:49.43 | Shirik | I'm going back to Gnomer :( |
| 01:50.17 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 01:52.03 | Nom- | yummy coffee |
| 01:52.09 | Nom- | That's the stuff to get yor morning going... |
| 01:52.21 | JoshBorke | i'm so not a coffee person, but i am a morning person |
| 01:52.25 | Nom- | Or you can skull a red bull, as my collegue did... |
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| 01:52.35 | Shirik | I used to drink expresso every day |
| 01:52.42 | Shirik | then I realized I was wasting more money than a smoker |
| 01:52.43 | Nom- | Expresso is weak |
| 01:52.58 | Shirik | that's why you get triple shot :P |
| 01:53.05 | Nom- | even then |
| 01:53.22 | Shirik | He's trying to drag me into an argument again :( |
| 01:53.28 | Shirik | I give up |
| 01:55.54 | Nom- | So very few places do a proper expresso anyway |
| 01:56.03 | Nom- | It's usually just a shot of standard black coffee |
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| 01:59.37 | xlvii | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.45 | Shirik | that would be extremely difficult to write |
| 01:59.50 | Shirik | reliably |
| 01:59.58 | Shirik | if not impossible reliably |
| 02:00.21 | Shirik | It sounds like an extremely simple concept, but you have to remember that the UI does not know by default what level a player is just by name |
| 02:00.29 | Shirik | as a result, you would have to send a /who request every time you receive a whisper |
| 02:00.29 | JoshBorke | question: is it better to inline a function for table.sort or to create a proper version of the function? ie: http://ace.pastey.net/9709 |
| 02:00.47 | xlvii | shirik, thought so.. sick of so many gold ads. |
| 02:00.48 | Shirik | which (1) takes time and delays your whispers, and (2) may never come back if you've recently done a /who or have a lot of incoming whispers |
| 02:00.51 | xlvii | damn 'peons 4 hire' |
| 02:01.01 | Shirik | xlvii: Try SpamSentry, it does pretty well with context-sensitive matching |
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| 02:24.38 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxh1xlp3J_Q |
| 02:25.22 | Shirik | bleeter here? |
| 02:25.25 | Nom- | That guy need to harden the fuck up. |
| 02:26.56 | bleeter | Shirik: no |
| 02:27.02 | Shirik | :( oh well ok then |
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| 02:27.25 | Shirik | bleeter: Question, does Auctioneer no longer require scanning the AH? |
| 02:27.34 | MagicTroll | free gold |
| 02:27.38 | MagicTroll | anyone want some |
| 02:27.46 | bleeter | er, yeah, you still need to scan |
| 02:27.54 | bleeter | dunno how it'd get the stats without it lol |
| 02:27.56 | Shirik | Kinda curious cause, I don't think I've ever scanned yet... |
| 02:28.01 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y <-- In case you don't knwo about the "Harden the fuck up" thing :) |
| 02:28.05 | Shirik | but I just saw a rare item in trade and it had a price for it |
| 02:28.17 | bleeter | an AH price, or a vendor price? |
| 02:28.20 | Shirik | AH price |
| 02:29.01 | bleeter | hmm, dunno.. best off asking stuff like that in #norganna ;) |
| 02:29.01 | Shirik | it also says seen 4 times |
| 02:29.01 | Shirik | maybe I'm just going crazy :/ |
| 02:29.01 | Shirik | I'll look at it later |
| 02:29.07 | MagicTroll | free gold http://www.wowgold4free.com/?ref=1256 |
| 02:32.14 | MagicTroll | ooted |
| 02:32.35 | Gryphen | fu*k off |
| 02:32.50 | MagicTroll | why |
| 02:34.07 | Nom- | You can get stats for items if you search for them in the AH |
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| 02:34.30 | Nom- | Like if you don't want to do full auction scans, you can just search for a particular item and it'll rcord the prices for it |
| 02:34.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | gold pyramid scheme? WHERE DO I SIGN UP |
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| 02:35.16 | Cairenn | MagicTroll: we do NOT allow Gold Selling in this channel |
| 02:35.24 | Cairenn | I kicked the first time, I'll ban the second |
| 02:35.35 | Cairenn | There is NO discussion |
| 02:36.15 | MagicTroll | I dont sell gold to clarify |
| 02:36.29 | MagicTroll | may I pm you you to discuss somthing |
| 02:36.31 | Gryphen | yeah, you get referrals for linking |
| 02:36.36 | Gryphen | scam |
| 02:36.38 | Cairenn | I don't care, however you care to put it, it isn't welcome here |
| 02:36.39 | zenzelezz | don't push your luck |
| 02:37.06 | MagicTroll | I am trying to understand what the issue is about it. I would like to ask why |
| 02:37.25 | Nom- | The issue is, we're tired of being spammed about "go here to get gold" crap. |
| 02:37.30 | Nom- | We get enough of that crap in game. |
| 02:37.33 | MentalPower | the issue is that its against blizzard's wishes |
| 02:37.34 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 02:37.36 | Thunder_Child | shoo |
| 02:37.53 | MagicTroll | So if I offer you free gold it is against blizzard |
| 02:37.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | sites like that are just shady and not worth free advertisement |
| 02:38.05 | Cairenn | MagicTroll: enough |
| 02:38.12 | Thunder_Child | obviously we dont want to hear it... |
| 02:38.13 | zenzelezz | with a referrral scheme it sounds highly fishy |
| 02:38.16 | Cairenn | You have been asked nicely, you have been warned |
| 02:38.16 | Cairenn | enough |
| 02:38.32 | Nom- | mmm caek |
| 02:38.35 | Nom- | brb getting caek |
| 02:38.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | anything that relies on referrals for free stuff is more likely than not a scam |
| 02:39.05 | Cairenn | or has a keylogger on the site, or or or |
| 02:39.08 | WobWork | Avon calling! |
| 02:39.16 | Cairenn | it isn't welcome here, period, end of discussion |
| 02:39.46 | MagicTroll | Can someone please look through blizzards TOS and tell me where it says you cannot give people gold. I would greatly appreciate it. |
| 02:40.08 | Cairenn | I've now warned you three times - good bye |
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| 02:40.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that site has a "buy gold" link at the top, nuff said |
| 02:40.22 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+b Magictroll!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 02:40.55 | Cairenn | go on with your conversation guys |
| 02:41.12 | zenzelezz | Nom stole my popcorn, but it was still fun |
| 02:41.15 | WobWork | it also probably uses illegal gold gathering methods to fund the gold stuff |
| 02:41.20 | Thunder_Child | ~cheer Cairenn |
| 02:41.21 | purl | ACTION cheers Cairenn on |
| 02:41.23 | WobWork | Caramel popcorn? |
| 02:41.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | chances are there's no free gold anyway |
| 02:41.37 | Cairenn | mmmm, caramel corn! |
| 02:41.42 | zenzelezz | no wai Rabies |
| 02:41.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just a good way for them to get money when they sell off the huge list of emails they get |
| 02:41.50 | zenzelezz | like people would LIE on the Intarweb |
| 02:42.01 | JoshBorke | i really need to take advantage of bribes in game |
| 02:42.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | from gullible 13 year olds like magictroll there |
| 02:42.08 | JoshBorke | "will you come heal, we'll pay 20g" |
| 02:42.11 | bleeter | "Cash out your gold points and receive real WOW gold" |
| 02:42.21 | bleeter | so, buy gold points.. and convert them to ingame gold |
| 02:42.21 | Nom- | JoshBorke: People pay you to heal? |
| 02:42.25 | Nom- | I gotta change to my server... |
| 02:42.28 | JoshBorke | i've been offered |
| 02:42.30 | Nom- | change my server even |
| 02:42.35 | JoshBorke | on multiple occasions |
| 02:42.35 | Nom- | I never get offered gold to heal |
| 02:42.44 | Nom- | I've been offered gold to tank, but not to heal :P |
| 02:42.46 | bleeter | I get offered gold to NOT log in |
| 02:42.49 | zenzelezz | Nom-: given the circumstances people are willing to pay for anything. I've been offered gold to tank Black Morass two times |
| 02:43.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get offered gold to heal from time to time |
| 02:43.08 | Nom- | We normally have sooooo many tanks and healers |
| 02:43.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it would take a lot more then 20g to heal a desperate group |
| 02:43.15 | Nom- | It's actually harder to find a mage than it is a tank or healer |
| 02:43.17 | WobWork | It's true |
| 02:43.26 | WobWork | I'm very picky about who I heal for =P |
| 02:43.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom, my server's the opposite |
| 02:43.40 | WobWork | although the more money offered, the more I'd be suspect =P |
| 02:43.43 | Nom- | The problem is |
| 02:43.45 | zenzelezz | I remember when my guild had 8-10 warriors in Naxxramas all the time... now we've barely got five |
| 02:43.48 | Nom- | Half the server rerolled Paladin |
| 02:43.51 | Shirik | Haha that was awesome! |
| 02:43.54 | Shirik | Joke on Futurama |
| 02:43.56 | WobWork | or drood =) |
| 02:44.01 | Shirik | Is in BASIC - at the robot church |
| 02:44.01 | Nom- | So we've got an overabundance of tanks and healers from that :P |
| 02:44.03 | Shirik | 10 SIN |
| 02:44.07 | Shirik | 20 GOTO Hell |
| 02:44.41 | Shirik | written on the wall |
| 02:44.41 | WobWork | geekalicious = |
| 02:44.41 | WobWork | ) |
| 02:44.51 | Nom- | Shirik: There's lots of little jokes like that through the show |
| 02:45.06 | Shirik | Yeah but like I've seen it so many times I don't expect to see any new jokes |
| 02:45.11 | Shirik | but every so often I catch something new |
| 02:45.25 | Shirik | like that was written way back on the wall so I must not have caught it the first few times |
| 02:45.32 | Nom- | heh |
| 02:45.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | "I HAD A NIGHTMARE.... There were ones and zeros....AND I THINK I SAW A TWO" |
| 02:45.54 | Shirik | Heh yeah I remember that |
| 02:51.00 | bleeter | http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/games/885d/ |
| 02:53.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/action/large/211787a.jpg |
| 02:53.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 02:53.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 02:53.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love the 3 second photoshop blur |
| 03:05.43 | cybane | Hey all |
| 03:06.10 | Cairenn | hullo |
| 03:07.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 03:07.16 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Tem] by ChanServ |
| 03:07.48 | Tem | *sigh* my router has been finiky all day |
| 03:09.55 | Tem | I'm about to do a firmware upgrade |
| 03:10.00 | Tem | hopefully that'll learn it |
| 03:10.26 | cybane | lol |
| 03:10.43 | cybane | Bad router! No bits for you! |
| 03:10.45 | *** join/#wowi-lounge batrick (i=batrick@d00-64-106-86-242.dhcp.unm.edu) |
| 03:11.12 | Tem | here goes... |
| 03:11.23 | Tem | if I keep a connection through this, I'll be surprized |
| 03:12.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge tardmrr (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
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| 03:12.44 | sioraiocht | clad|sleep: =/ |
| 03:13.55 | cybane | Anyone know of a general WoW chat on IRC? I have yet to find a decent one |
| 03:16.15 | Cairenn | I think a majority of channels are on quakenet.org |
| 03:17.29 | Cairenn | which is one of the major reasons we aren't ;) |
| 03:18.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | less annoying WTT STEAM ACCOUNT 4 WOWACCOUNT STUFF |
| 03:18.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | er stuff |
| 03:18.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hit capslock too lightly :[ |
| 03:22.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, I love Neth's sig - http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ninja_turtles.png |
| 03:23.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Had a gold seller on #wowwiki earlier |
| 03:23.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Bloody Gryphen beat me to the ban again :( |
| 03:23.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | was it that happytroll guy or whatever |
| 03:23.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | magictroll |
| 03:23.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Magictroll, aye |
| 03:23.47 | Gryphen | i did :o |
| 03:24.21 | Gryphen | ya he got banned here too |
| 03:24.23 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 03:24.52 | Gryphen | Cairenn was kind and gave him a chance to stay |
| 03:24.56 | Gryphen | :D |
| 03:25.04 | Nom- | Cairenn's a softy at heart |
| 03:25.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably just a gullible 13 year old giving out his email to spammers for gold he'll never get |
| 03:25.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | poor guy |
| 03:25.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh well |
| 03:25.25 | Cairenn | shhhhh! no giving away my secret! |
| 03:25.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | no mercy for the stupid |
| 03:25.57 | Kirkburn|afk | I just read up ... conversation was far more interesting than our experience :( We just got the link! |
| 03:26.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i was truly evil |
| 03:26.28 | Kirkburn|afk | He's still on #wowace |
| 03:26.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd send some gay porn newsletters his way |
| 03:26.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've done it in the past to people with referral scams |
| 03:27.02 | clad|sleep | TomTom has been uploaded: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html |
| 03:27.07 | Nom- | You just happen to have some lying around, Mr_Rabies2 ? |
| 03:27.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Mr_Rabies, well not everyone finds that offensive |
| 03:27.13 | Nom- | How .... convenient .... |
| 03:27.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | no kirk |
| 03:27.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's enough to get him in trouble with his mom when he goes to check his email |
| 03:27.43 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 03:27.46 | Cairenn | rofl! http://eq2.allakhazam.com/images/Random%20Images/gogo-googlemaps.jpg |
| 03:27.58 | Kirkburn|afk | hahaha |
| 03:28.19 | Nom- | lol Cairenn ... there was a link posted earlier for like NY to Dublin, Ireland |
| 03:28.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 03:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's funny how quickly that spreads |
| 03:28.26 | Nom- | The actual google maps link |
| 03:28.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen something relating to that link across 4 different networks in the last 5 minutes :p |
| 03:28.54 | clad|sleep | lol =) |
| 03:29.00 | Nom- | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=new+york,+ny&daddr=Dublin,+Ireland&sll=57.984808,-55.019531&sspn=72.354033,164.53125&layer=&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=4&ll=48.166085,-36.5625&spn=43.171238,82.265625 |
| 03:29.01 | Shirik | oooh yay! |
| 03:29.04 | Nom- | there |
| 03:29.45 | Shirik | any bets on whether the updater likes it? |
| 03:30.12 | cybane | eh? |
| 03:30.18 | cybane | Is that link worksafe? |
| 03:30.57 | Cairenn | aye |
| 03:32.05 | Nom- | Yes, unless you find Google Maps offensive... |
| 03:32.22 | clad|sleep | Shirik: heheh does it like it? |
| 03:32.30 | Shirik | I think it installed perfectly |
| 03:32.32 | Shirik | logging in now, we'll see |
| 03:32.33 | cybane | everyone here says lol |
| 03:32.45 | Shirik | it says it installed it :P |
| 03:32.59 | clad|sleep | nice |
| 03:33.18 | cybane | Shirik whatcha doin? |
| 03:33.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Nom-> Yes, unless you find Google Maps offensive... |
| 03:33.32 | Cairenn | excellent! |
| 03:33.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | hey you never know, someone could do a goatse crop circle or something |
| 03:33.54 | Cairenn | ewwwww |
| 03:33.55 | cybane | lol |
| 03:34.00 | Shirik | yup it worked, yey |
| 03:34.05 | Shirik | and now I can figure out where the heck I'm going |
| 03:34.09 | clad|sleep | heheh |
| 03:34.14 | Shirik | perfect timing really, I was lost in badlands |
| 03:34.16 | clad|sleep | waypoints are tons of fun =) |
| 03:34.39 | clad|sleep | its on google code, so if you're interested, I'd like to eventually get TomTom scripts, |
| 03:34.47 | clad|sleep | so it can say go from this way point, then when you arrive, go to this one |
| 03:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss the good ol days of /goto and /gotocorpse from early early cosmos :[ |
| 03:34.56 | clad|sleep | cause i detect when you hit a waypoint, so it could trigger the next one |
| 03:35.05 | MentalPower | Kirkburn|afk: nice favicon on wowwiki |
| 03:35.12 | Kirkburn|afk | woot |
| 03:35.15 | Shirik | stupid question |
| 03:35.23 | Tem | lol I love step 23 |
| 03:35.24 | Kirkburn|afk | stupider answer |
| 03:35.34 | Tem | "Swin across the Atlantic Ocean" |
| 03:35.44 | Tem | s/win/wim/ |
| 03:35.56 | Shirik | nm |
| 03:36.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Shirik, oh, weren't we doing the meta-conversation thing? :( |
| 03:36.14 | Shirik | hrm? |
| 03:36.24 | Kirkburn|afk | MentalPower, knocked it up yesterday. Mmm, orangey-reddy-goldness :) |
| 03:36.42 | Shirik | I had a stupid question but I answered it myself >< |
| 03:36.48 | clad|sleep | Shirik: it works okay? |
| 03:36.50 | Shirik | yup |
| 03:36.53 | clad|sleep | you've tested the /way command? |
| 03:36.55 | clad|sleep | cool, cool |
| 03:36.55 | cybane | Isn't automated movement not allowed? |
| 03:37.01 | Nom- | A goatse crop circle? |
| 03:37.03 | Nom- | That'd be funny |
| 03:37.04 | clad|sleep | alright, I go to sleep now |
| 03:37.07 | clad|sleep | tubgirl imo |
| 03:37.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | complete with fountain |
| 03:37.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry |
| 03:37.20 | Shirik | oooh |
| 03:37.23 | Shirik | that flashing blue was kinda cool |
| 03:37.27 | Nom- | lol |
| 03:37.29 | clad|sleep | hehe |
| 03:37.37 | clad|sleep | that was a side effect of what I do |
| 03:37.47 | clad|sleep | its even cooler when its a dot on map, then it hits the dge and does that |
| 03:39.49 | clad|sleep | it auto-clears waypoints when you get within 10 yards of it. |
| 03:40.02 | clad|sleep | I haven't decided what a good range is yet, but I'm gona end up between 8 and 10 |
| 03:40.13 | kergoth | you're doing waypoints now? wheres the addon at? :) |
| 03:40.18 | clad|sleep | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html |
| 03:43.46 | kergoth | cute. i prefer the floating arrow in the center of the screen style, but i'm sure lots will love the more stock feel |
| 03:44.19 | clad|sleep | *nod* |
| 03:44.21 | clad|sleep | understood |
| 03:44.26 | clad|sleep | just making addons that I like to use =) |
| 03:44.29 | cybane | That would require drawing an object in the game which I believe we can not do |
| 03:44.36 | clad|sleep | cybane: its already done/been done =) |
| 03:44.49 | cybane | the pilliar of light in the middle of the screen? |
| 03:45.03 | clad|sleep | Cartographer has an arrow that poins in the right direction |
| 03:45.05 | clad|sleep | imo |
| 03:45.33 | kergoth | did anyone ever get anywhere with messing with a model for the arrow instead of texcoords in a texture? |
| 03:45.45 | clad|sleep | yeah, thats what mine uses. |
| 03:46.01 | clad|sleep | i wouldn't have released it otherwise ;-) |
| 03:46.05 | clad|sleep | that was a fun night |
| 03:46.09 | kergoth | neat |
| 03:46.29 | clad|sleep | Tem and my boyfriend broke most of the math |
| 03:46.30 | clad|sleep | for me. |
| 03:46.39 | Iriel | Mmmm.. math |
| 03:46.48 | clad|sleep | hehehe you would have shot me that night |
| 03:46.54 | Iriel | I wish i'd been here! |
| 03:46.58 | clad|sleep | my approach was... unconventional |
| 03:46.59 | kergoth | i should really be farming... i'm so easily distracted. i keep messing with addons instead of doing what i'm supposed to be doing |
| 03:47.09 | clad|sleep | but we know the math to make the minimap models work =) |
| 03:47.27 | clad|sleep | ah well, finally sleep time |
| 03:47.27 | Tem | no we don't |
| 03:47.29 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 03:47.39 | clad|sleep | Tem: wha? |
| 03:47.39 | Tem | we sorta knew it for like 20 minutes that friday night |
| 03:47.44 | Tem | but it's long gone now |
| 03:47.46 | clad|sleep | haha |
| 03:47.50 | clad|sleep | yeah, we have a formula that works |
| 03:47.53 | Iriel | Hopefully one of you kept a log |
| 03:48.01 | kergoth | purl did |
| 03:48.11 | purl | somebody said did was Direct Inward Dialing |
| 03:48.11 | kergoth | ~logs |
| 03:48.13 | purl | methinks logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 03:48.13 | Tem | wasn't in here imo |
| 03:48.13 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:48.29 | clad|sleep | Iriel: I was flying experimentally around Shattrath mapping the arrow's coordinate on the map.. it was.. silly =) |
| 03:48.49 | Tem | I felt crazy dumb later for not just seeing how it worked right away |
| 03:49.04 | clad|sleep | yeah me too |
| 03:49.06 | Tem | his exel file of doom showed us the pattern |
| 03:49.06 | clad|sleep | but admit |
| 03:49.16 | clad|sleep | those magic numbers were tough =) |
| 03:49.18 | clad|sleep | for like 2 seconds |
| 03:49.49 | clad|sleep | when I release a project at SVN rev 3.. i think i've commited way too infrequently |
| 03:50.02 | Tem | lol |
| 03:50.28 | WobWork | clad|sleep: Can you put up those magic numbers on wowwiki? |
| 03:51.39 | Seracht | anyone here tried leveling in a while? |
| 03:51.46 | Seracht | Its sooo boring!!! |
| 03:51.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not too bad |
| 03:52.01 | Nom- | I've done a level or two on my mage |
| 03:52.08 | Nom- | Did 1-19 on a new BE Hunter |
| 03:52.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 03:52.11 | Nom- | So much damn fun |
| 03:52.13 | Seracht | ya i got to 20 fast |
| 03:52.15 | Seracht | after that though |
| 03:52.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | azeroth leveling |
| 03:52.16 | Seracht | holy shit |
| 03:52.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | screw that |
| 03:52.23 | Seracht | i felt like shooting myself in the face |
| 03:52.26 | Seracht | i am level 24 right now |
| 03:52.27 | Seracht | god so boring |
| 03:52.34 | Nom- | lol you're playing the wrong class then :P |
| 03:52.41 | Seracht | nah I love rogues |
| 03:52.44 | Nom- | reroll! |
| 03:52.45 | cybane | Please tell me WoW is not your first MMO |
| 03:52.47 | Seracht | and i tried every class so far |
| 03:52.48 | clad|sleep | local x = .03875* math.cos(angle + halfpi) + 0.04875 |
| 03:52.48 | clad|sleep | local y = .03875* math.sin(angle + halfpi) + 0.04875 |
| 03:52.48 | clad|sleep | icon.arrow:SetPosition(x,y,0) |
| 03:52.49 | clad|sleep | icon.arrow:SetFacing(angle) |
| 03:52.50 | Seracht | no cybane its not |
| 03:52.57 | kergoth | leveled my hunter to 42 recently, went smooth as silk, quested it. stalled at a couple points, but nothing i couldnt push past |
| 03:53.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | compared to outland, azeroth is a pain |
| 03:53.08 | Seracht | Nom- I played a pally, druid, warrior, mage, warlock, rogue, shaman, priest |
| 03:53.09 | Nom- | PUB LUNCH |
| 03:53.09 | Nom- | WOOT |
| 03:53.10 | clad|sleep | night, for reals this time. |
| 03:53.11 | Seracht | did all those so far to level 24 |
| 03:53.12 | cybane | Because leveling here is a breeze compared to EQ or EQ2 |
| 03:53.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not that it's difficult |
| 03:53.24 | Seracht | cybane you cannot compare it like that anymore |
| 03:53.29 | Nom- | Seracht: I've played every class except warrior to level 30 |
| 03:53.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just that it's not any fun compared to outland |
| 03:53.47 | Seracht | you cannot just compare it to eq and say its better than that |
| 03:53.53 | Seracht | pre tbc leveling was kinda fun |
| 03:53.54 | cybane | Yes you can. I just did LOL |
| 03:53.55 | Seracht | now its just retarded |
| 03:54.00 | Nom- | I just deleted my level 31 hunter to roll a BE :P |
| 03:54.06 | Nom- | Orc hunter FTL :P |
| 03:54.07 | Seracht | BE rogue here |
| 03:54.15 | Seracht | I think that was a bad choice heh |
| 03:54.23 | kergoth | :( i like my orc hunter. blood fury is nice |
| 03:54.25 | Nom- | My BE Pally is hitting Kara at the moemnt |
| 03:54.29 | Seracht | lol |
| 03:54.31 | Seracht | shit nice |
| 03:54.33 | Nom- | my old mage is still level 62 :P |
| 03:54.38 | Seracht | how did you manage to level a paladin |
| 03:54.41 | Seracht | was that fast or slow |
| 03:54.47 | Nom- | slow, but easy |
| 03:54.52 | cybane | For hunter go Orc if you pet focus or troll if you are going to be bow |
| 03:54.53 | Nom- | 12.5 days ingame time |
| 03:55.03 | Seracht | i dun wanna be a healer though |
| 03:55.07 | Seracht | healing is too boring to me |
| 03:55.12 | Nom- | I'm prot spec |
| 03:55.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | orcs also have blood rage or whatever cybane |
| 03:55.14 | cybane | Paladin is the slowest leveling class |
| 03:55.17 | Nom- | I'm our raids' OT for Kara |
| 03:55.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is pretty awesome |
| 03:55.27 | Nom- | cybane: Yes, but most surviveable |
| 03:55.30 | cybane | Yeah Blood Rage it is nice to have an extra ToEP while playing |
| 03:55.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | pop that and BW at the same time and you're tearing things up FAST |
| 03:55.47 | Seracht | be hunters look cool thoguh |
| 03:55.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | meh |
| 03:55.52 | Nom- | Shaman is not a bad class to level if you can stand it |
| 03:55.53 | Seracht | and thats pretty much what it boils down to :) |
| 03:55.55 | cybane | I pop it then cast an Ampd CoA |
| 03:55.55 | Nom- | I got bored of shaman |
| 03:56.03 | cybane | Shaman is fun once you get DW |
| 03:56.03 | Seracht | I got bored of my shaman by level 8 |
| 03:56.04 | Seracht | lol |
| 03:56.13 | kergoth | my first 60 was a shaman, then i got bored since i got pigeonholed into a resto healbot |
| 03:56.14 | cybane | I have never had more fun DWing 2 Mugs O' Hurt |
| 03:56.15 | Seracht | its the same thing over and over |
| 03:56.18 | Tem | My old mage is still level 60 |
| 03:56.21 | kergoth | started playing him 2 years later in tbc and its much more fun |
| 03:56.24 | Tem | 170 days played |
| 03:56.24 | Nom- | Seracht: So did I actually, that's right I haven't levelled my shaman to 30 yet |
| 03:56.29 | Seracht | heh |
| 03:56.33 | Seracht | recommend me a class |
| 03:56.36 | Tem | still sitting around in full t2 |
| 03:56.38 | Seracht | I want a utility class no healing |
| 03:56.41 | Seracht | damage preferabily |
| 03:56.41 | Shadowed | Warrior |
| 03:56.43 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 03:56.44 | Seracht | something easy to get groups with |
| 03:56.46 | cybane | Warlock |
| 03:56.49 | Tem | warlock |
| 03:56.51 | Seracht | not a warlock |
| 03:56.53 | Nom- | honestly, if you can stand to get through the first 20 levels, druid is a lot of fun |
| 03:56.57 | cybane | Then Mage |
| 03:56.58 | Tem | not a warrior |
| 03:57.10 | cybane | Those are the only two classes with utility that are not healing |
| 03:57.10 | Nom- | Any of the hybrids have good group possibility |
| 03:57.18 | cybane | But they heal |
| 03:57.22 | Seracht | cybane warriors dont have utility? |
| 03:57.29 | Seracht | wait by utility I meant more than just damage |
| 03:57.32 | Seracht | like they can do multiple things |
| 03:57.36 | Shadowed | right, Warriors can tank and do damage |
| 03:57.36 | Seracht | like with rogues they can only do damage |
| 03:57.39 | Nom- | Well, hunter is lightning fast levelling |
| 03:57.45 | Shadowed | well what do you want to do |
| 03:57.46 | Tem | I find the hybrids frustrating to play because I typically want to be one of the "holy trinity" |
| 03:57.49 | Shadowed | 5 mans, 25 mans, 10 mans, PVP? |
| 03:57.51 | Seracht | um |
| 03:57.51 | Tem | I want to do one thing and to it very well |
| 03:57.55 | cybane | Utility to me are abilities that do stuff for a group outside of combat like buffs and items |
| 03:57.55 | Seracht | 5 + pvp + maybe 10 |
| 03:58.04 | Seracht | oh right I should have specified that then |
| 03:58.04 | Seracht | ok |
| 03:58.05 | Seracht | sec |
| 03:58.10 | Nom- | Seriously, hunter can be a lot of fun in PVP and PVE |
| 03:58.17 | Seracht | my friend has a mage and I want to do some pvp arena with him |
| 03:58.17 | Shadowed | But they don't have utility besides damage |
| 03:58.20 | cybane | Hunter has healing though |
| 03:58.28 | Nom- | Hunter can only heal your pet lol |
| 03:58.31 | Seracht | lol |
| 03:58.34 | Shadowed | Which bracket, 2vs2 Seracht? |
| 03:58.37 | Seracht | ya Shadowed |
| 03:58.39 | Seracht | thats the plan |
| 03:58.41 | Shadowed | Shadow priests are crazy in 2vs2 |
| 03:58.49 | cybane | Mages have Int buff, Food and Water, Portals, Mana Stone (Self Only) |
| 03:58.54 | Seracht | but I dont want to be forced to heal |
| 03:58.58 | Seracht | I dont like healing |
| 03:59.04 | Nom- | For all useful purposes, Hunters can't heal |
| 03:59.04 | Seracht | i like to be in the midst of the battle |
| 03:59.20 | Nom- | You can only heal your pet, and you only tend to do that solo |
| 03:59.22 | Seracht | bah this game is killing me |
| 03:59.24 | Shadowed | Shadow priests are fairly useful in 5/10 mans actually, it depends who you're playing with |
| 03:59.25 | Seracht | KILLING ME!!!! |
| 03:59.40 | Tem | shadow priests are the bane of existance for o-casters |
| 03:59.46 | Shirik | clad|sleep still here? |
| 03:59.47 | cybane | Shadow Priests are fantastic when paired with a warlock |
| 03:59.53 | Nom- | lol back when i was holy spec on my pally, I used to LOVE Shadow Priests |
| 03:59.55 | Shadowed | they're overpowered in PVP, thats why i stopped playing them :p |
| 03:59.58 | Tem | almost nothing pisses me off more (as a mage) than losing gear to a shadow priest |
| 03:59.59 | cybane | Shadow Priest with Affliction loc OMG the pwnsause |
| 04:00.06 | Shadowed | Honestly |
| 04:00.07 | Nom- | I can solo heal anything with a shadow priest :P |
| 04:00.19 | Seracht | mmm |
| 04:00.22 | Seracht | I dunno |
| 04:00.26 | Nom- | maybe not heroics, but any non-heroic 5-man :P |
| 04:00.29 | Seracht | I just want a fun class that is good in pvp |
| 04:00.29 | Nom- | bbs meeting |
| 04:00.31 | Shadowed | every hybrid class is forced into X rule in 10 mans, you wont really be able to avoid that unless you can prove you're useful for another rule besides the "primary one" that everyone uses. |
| 04:00.32 | Seracht | and easy to get groups with |
| 04:00.34 | Seracht | thats mainly it |
| 04:00.41 | Shadowed | X roll not rule |
| 04:00.49 | Seracht | role? |
| 04:00.50 | Seracht | lol |
| 04:00.53 | Shadowed | err, yeah |
| 04:00.55 | Shadowed | trying to not die and talk |
| 04:00.57 | cybane | Shadow Priest or Warlock |
| 04:01.16 | Shadowed | Shadow priest provides more utility if you want to heal somepoint later on, and i find them more fun then warlocks |
| 04:01.22 | Seracht | already have a pries tthough |
| 04:01.23 | Seracht | level 60 |
| 04:01.30 | cybane | Warlock is their own mini group |
| 04:01.44 | Seracht | well see if I roll a lock he will get reallllllllly pissed off |
| 04:01.46 | cybane | Drain Tank till 50 then bust out the Felguard |
| 04:01.46 | Seracht | ie: kill me |
| 04:01.48 | Tem | (among the things that piss me off more are losing cloth gear to balance druids, shadow priests who think they are more important sources of dps than the actual o-casters, and warriors with over-inflated egos) |
| 04:01.55 | Seracht | cuz I rolled a lock deleted it at level 24 and he got pissed there |
| 04:02.01 | Seracht | screw it, I will stick wit hthe rogue |
| 04:02.02 | Shadowed | Shadow Priest + Warlock is the best combo available in 2vs2 really |
| 04:02.13 | Seracht | he is a mag e:) |
| 04:02.19 | Tem | Shadowed, what about warrior/pally? |
| 04:02.25 | cybane | Mage and Priest is good too |
| 04:02.53 | Seracht | mage + rogue? lo |
| 04:02.55 | Shadowed | You can overwhelm those groups pretty easy with that combo actually |
| 04:02.57 | cybane | Yeah but you are healing in there too |
| 04:02.57 | Seracht | dunno how that will work |
| 04:03.07 | Shadowed | the main issue with mage + Rogue is you wont have any healer there so you'll have trouble going that far |
| 04:03.14 | Shadowed | or curing |
| 04:03.17 | Tem | I haven't played in a while, but back when I played, the best pvp combo was always the warrior with a stupidly OP 2 hander and a healbot pally |
| 04:03.19 | Seracht | maybe just make a paladin |
| 04:03.22 | Seracht | are they easy to level |
| 04:03.24 | Seracht | or really boring |
| 04:03.34 | cybane | Really boring |
| 04:03.38 | Tem | I heard that leveling a pally is really boring |
| 04:03.41 | Shadowed | i got to level 22 and said screw it on my paladin |
| 04:03.47 | cybane | Think of leveling a druid in Caster Mode but with more armor |
| 04:03.49 | Seracht | i thought that upto level 20 its fast |
| 04:03.53 | Seracht | cuz BE quests and all |
| 04:04.06 | cybane | It is quick |
| 04:04.12 | cybane | Up till 20 but at 20 you need groups |
| 04:04.23 | Seracht | you do? |
| 04:04.31 | cybane | Then after 30-40 it gets quick. Pallys require their talents more than other classes |
| 04:04.40 | Seracht | main a pally? |
| 04:05.38 | Shadowed | well, if you're a paladiny ou'll have to heal really |
| 04:05.43 | Shadowed | you'll* |
| 04:06.07 | Seracht | cant ret? heh |
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| 04:07.26 | Shadowed | i've seen *one* impressive ret paladin since i started playing |
| 04:10.03 | Seracht | can you damage as holy or is holy just healing? |
| 04:12.19 | Shadowed | not sure |
| 04:12.40 | Shadowed | ret is damage, prot is tanking, holy is healing if i remember right, but i haven't played paladins a ton so someone else may know for sure |
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| 04:20.47 | Nom- | lol pally dps is pretty even accross all specs |
| 04:20.58 | Nom- | ret and holy dps is based on burning your mana |
| 04:21.08 | Nom- | prot is based on getting hit upside the head to get procs |
| 04:21.42 | Nom- | prot with 10 points in holy is pretty much awesome for soloing |
| 04:21.58 | Nom- | And Pally is very easy to level 1-70 |
| 04:21.59 | Nom- | Just slow |
| 04:22.30 | cybane | Nice thing about a paladin is they save money on food and bandages |
| 04:22.34 | cybane | but require some water |
| 04:22.40 | cybane | I think rouge is a good choice |
| 04:22.42 | Nom- | You need water |
| 04:22.54 | Nom- | You gotta carry it all the time basically |
| 04:23.01 | cybane | Water is pretty easy to get from mages if you give them a BoW |
| 04:23.09 | Nom- | As soon as you run out of mana on a pally, your dps and aggro is gone |
| 04:23.28 | cybane | Also, Locks with play with you |
| 04:23.31 | cybane | err will |
| 04:23.36 | cybane | I love messing with Paladins |
| 04:23.37 | Nom- | While you've got mana you can put out a massive amount of threat...i'm out-threating protection warriors with uber gear |
| 04:23.53 | Nom- | On undead you can just nuke like no tomorrow :D |
| 04:23.56 | Nom- | Anyway lunch |
| 04:24.36 | kergoth | clad|sleep: no tooltip on world map waypoint blips for tomtom? |
| 04:26.17 | Shirik | Yeah that was one thing I was going to say |
| 04:26.22 | Shirik | the other thing is that /way reset doesn't work |
| 04:28.23 | kergoth | other than that, good stuff :) |
| 04:29.21 | Shirik | indeed |
| 04:33.57 | cybane | Any of you guys tried Auto Assault? |
| 04:34.14 | Iriel | It's AWFUL |
| 04:34.17 | Iriel | Beyond AWFUL |
| 04:34.29 | Iriel | Possibly the least engaging 'mmo' i've ever had the misfortune to try |
| 04:34.30 | Shirik | lol, that bad? |
| 04:34.32 | Iriel | and I tried Dark and Light |
| 04:34.40 | Shirik | I was so close to trying it |
| 04:34.52 | cybane | Auto Assault for me was very enjoyable |
| 04:34.56 | cybane | It is an MMOFPS |
| 04:35.07 | cybane | All you do is flip out and blow stuff up |
| 04:35.24 | cybane | Really fun but my PC can not run it well so I do not get to play it |
| 04:41.08 | xlvii | any french people in here? |
| 04:41.21 | xlvii | or someone that can speak french? |
| 04:42.47 | Seracht | quick question |
| 04:42.52 | Seracht | best race for hunter (horde) |
| 04:43.21 | Shirik | xlvii: Not really but I can try |
| 04:43.24 | Shirik | it's been a few years though |
| 04:44.16 | Shirik | what you need? |
| 04:45.27 | xlvii | shirik, i need how to say "loves you" |
| 04:45.29 | cybane | Troll for bow stuffs, Orc for Pet Stuffs, BE for Sexys |
| 04:45.33 | xlvii | so i can insert a person's name before it. |
| 04:45.35 | Shirik | put it in a sentence |
| 04:45.38 | xlvii | like, <tim> loves you. |
| 04:45.41 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:45.51 | cybane | LONG TIME!! |
| 04:45.53 | Shirik | Tim t'adore |
| 04:46.01 | xlvii | thanks shirik |
| 04:46.09 | Shirik | np |
| 04:46.32 | Shirik | be careful with that |
| 04:46.37 | Shirik | don't modify it too much |
| 04:46.39 | xlvii | eh? |
| 04:46.41 | xlvii | okay. |
| 04:46.41 | xlvii | :P |
| 04:46.42 | Shirik | if it's a single person, that's correct |
| 04:46.50 | Shirik | but depending on who is doing the loving, it can change |
| 04:46.54 | xlvii | multiple people? |
| 04:47.01 | Shirik | multiple people would be |
| 04:47.27 | Shirik | Ils t'adorent |
| 04:47.28 | Shirik | Ils = they |
| 04:47.41 | Shirik | "We love you" is Nous t'adorons |
| 04:47.42 | Shirik | etc. |
| 04:47.46 | Shirik | so depending on the subject, it changes |
| 04:50.27 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:50.33 | Shirik | it also slightly depends on who is saying the statement |
| 04:50.43 | Shirik | but "t'adorer" should be fine |
| 04:50.49 | Shirik | theoretically it could also be "vous adorer" |
| 04:51.02 | Shirik | heh, I hope I'm not confusing you |
| 04:51.40 | Tem | actually |
| 04:51.51 | Tem | wouldn't the vous congugation use "ez"? |
| 04:51.55 | Tem | instead of "er" |
| 04:51.59 | Shirik | yeah, I used the infinitive |
| 04:52.02 | Shirik | because there's no subject there |
| 04:52.28 | Shirik | It's not a sentence without a subject, though |
| 04:52.30 | Tem | it's been a long time since I've thought about french verbs |
| 04:52.40 | cybane | Spanish > French |
| 04:52.41 | Shirik | The thing to remember there is that "vous" is not "you" |
| 04:52.56 | Shirik | it's the object to which adorer is referring to |
| 04:52.59 | Shirik | whom is being adored |
| 04:53.09 | Shirik | It would be something like Tim vous adore |
| 04:53.13 | Shirik | Tim loves you |
| 04:53.26 | Tem | that's so formal |
| 04:53.28 | Shirik | Tim is the subject, not you, so the subject is "il" |
| 04:53.46 | Tem | I doubt you'd be telling anyone that someone else loves them so stiffly |
| 04:53.48 | Shirik | Yeah like I said, "Tim t'adore" should be fine :P |
| 04:53.55 | Shirik | I love you, sir! |
| 04:53.58 | Tem | lol |
| 04:56.06 | cybane | ROFL |
| 04:56.10 | cybane | Maybe in the military |
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| 04:56.43 | cybane | Anyone else think the armory needs a tune up to improve speed? |
| 04:56.58 | Shirik | honestly, I expect it the way it is |
| 04:57.01 | cybane | Less with the pretty and more with the speed |
| 04:57.04 | Shirik | think of the amount of data it has to sift through |
| 04:57.10 | Shirik | I doubt it has to do with the "pretty" |
| 04:57.33 | cybane | Even the main wow page takes forever to load too many graphics |
| 04:58.51 | cybane | Okay what are people calling the Dungeon 3 set? Do they really mean T4? |
| 04:59.16 | Tem | you, sir, are a moron |
| 04:59.22 | Tem | it has basically nothing to do with the pretty |
| 04:59.35 | Tem | and *everything* to do with database requests |
| 05:00.41 | cybane | Okay so the fact the graphic elements have to be transfered to make it take any longer to load yeah right |
| 05:01.21 | Tem | think of it like big O |
| 05:01.24 | cybane | If the database took so long to load the information then having a simpilar page would be an improvement but rather they take a long process and make it longer |
| 05:01.40 | Tem | the limiting factor on load time isn't the graphical elements |
| 05:02.11 | cybane | But it does not make it any faster |
| 05:02.16 | cybane | That was my whole point |
| 05:03.36 | Tem | it's negligible |
| 05:03.52 | Tem | look at any website with graphics |
| 05:03.58 | Tem | you never care how long they take to load |
| 05:04.03 | Tem | they are fast |
| 05:04.11 | Tem | the armory's graphics load fast too |
| 05:04.18 | Tem | the database bits take longer |
| 05:04.39 | Tem | anyway, Shirik, why do you know french? |
| 05:04.47 | Shirik | took it in High School for 5 years |
| 05:05.08 | Shirik | well the only choices were spanish and french |
| 05:05.10 | Tem | what part of the country are you from? |
| 05:05.12 | Shirik | and I just wanted to be different |
| 05:05.15 | Shirik | Northern Virginia |
| 05:05.19 | Tem | oh, nevermind then |
| 05:05.31 | Shirik | heh, no really good reason tbh |
| 05:05.39 | Shirik | but actually I'm glad I did; I've had a lot of opportunities to use it |
| 05:05.44 | Tem | I took french because it has important cultural impact on my area of the world |
| 05:05.51 | Shirik | interesting |
| 05:06.01 | Shirik | ah, yes |
| 05:06.08 | Shirik | We actually studies louisiana for a chapter, in fact |
| 05:06.17 | Tem | not surprising |
| 05:06.17 | Shirik | s/studies/studied/ |
| 05:06.36 | Tem | le grand derangement |
| 05:06.47 | Tem | I'm surprized I remember that term |
| 05:06.52 | Tem | it just sort of came to me |
| 05:07.08 | Shirik | but basically I've had a lot of chances to use it; a lot of people I know from Europe and the like, many of them French |
| 05:07.12 | Tem | gogo years of having it mashed in my head |
| 05:07.20 | Tem | ah neat |
| 05:07.33 | Shirik | I mean they know English and all, but every so often I try to use french |
| 05:07.37 | Shirik | they usually laugh atm e |
| 05:07.39 | Shirik | at me* |
| 05:07.42 | Tem | hehe |
| 05:07.54 | Tem | basically everyone over the age of 40 around here speaks french |
| 05:08.11 | Tem | and I'd say roughly 40% of everyone under 40 |
| 05:08.20 | Shirik | I would like the opportunity to go down there and see something different |
| 05:08.33 | Tem | hmm |
| 05:08.36 | Shirik | really never been away from the eastern shoreline |
| 05:08.38 | Shirik | only place outside of the northeast is florida |
| 05:08.52 | Tem | Festival International is soonish, I think |
| 05:09.26 | Tem | also, crawfish are in season right now |
| 05:09.29 | Tem | and it's not that hot yet |
| 05:09.37 | Shirik | ooh |
| 05:09.50 | Shirik | heh, I'm ok with hot :P |
| 05:09.53 | Shirik | I live in Daytona Beach now |
| 05:10.10 | Tem | Dry Heat is nothing compared to Louisiana Heat |
| 05:10.18 | Shirik | heh, ok |
| 05:10.21 | Shirik | I'll trust you on that |
| 05:10.25 | Tem | (btw, never come down here between May-November) |
| 05:10.33 | Shirik | you know |
| 05:10.37 | Shirik | just because you said that, I'll have to |
| 05:10.42 | Tem | the weather is bearable in the remaining months |
| 05:11.54 | Tem | right now is really the best time of year to be a tourist here |
| 05:12.14 | Tem | the weather is acceptable, and the best foods are in good supply |
| 05:12.15 | Shirik | too bad I'm stuck in school for another month still :/ |
| 05:13.11 | Tem | btw, whatever you've heard about the food down here, it's twice as good as the people who've had it say and it's nothing like what hollywood likes to show |
| 05:13.22 | Shirik | Oh I'm sure |
| 05:13.28 | Shirik | and I love seafood |
| 05:13.42 | Tem | it's to the point where when I travel, I have to bring a can of seasoning with me |
| 05:13.49 | Tem | because the food in other parts of the country is too bland |
| 05:14.24 | Shirik | so where exactly in louisiana are you/ |
| 05:14.33 | Tem | I'm currently in Baton Rouge |
| 05:14.43 | Shirik | awesome |
| 05:14.45 | cybane | Ohio here |
| 05:15.00 | Tem | my dad's family is from Abbeville (which is like Cajun Town USA) and my mom's family is from New Orleans |
| 05:15.12 | cybane | The only part I do not like about La is the fact it is right next to the ocean and below sea level |
| 05:15.25 | Tem | cybane, that's just New Orleans |
| 05:15.44 | cybane | But still near the ocean I perfer to be in land |
| 05:15.52 | Tem | heh |
| 05:15.59 | cybane | Less Hurricanes kick my town's ass |
| 05:16.09 | Shirik | new orleans really doesn't get any hurricanes |
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| 05:16.17 | Tem | yeah, they really don't |
| 05:16.29 | Tem | FL usually kills em before they get to us |
| 05:16.45 | Shirik | you're welcome |
| 05:16.47 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:16.51 | Tem | heheh |
| 05:16.55 | Tem | and if they're coming towards LA, they usually go east of NO |
| 05:17.20 | Tem | Lafayette, Lake Charles and into texas get them way more often than NO |
| 05:17.37 | Tem | and really hurricanes aren't that big of a deal |
| 05:18.10 | Shirik | they aren't |
| 05:18.25 | Shirik | the media goes crazy with them |
| 05:18.35 | Shirik | because that's how they stay in business |
| 05:19.00 | Tem | heh |
| 05:19.15 | Tem | well, usually they aren't a big deal |
| 05:19.30 | Tem | Katrina was the biggest deal since Camille which was back in the 70s |
| 05:20.02 | Tem | so about every 30 years we get a real bad one, but other than that it's pretty much just a minor annoyance every 4-5 years |
| 05:20.41 | cybane | The last time we had a "disaster" in Ohio was about 5 years ago when a Tornado went through Xenia. Yeah betcha didn't know that |
| 05:21.07 | Tem | I like to pretend that Ohio is just a conspiracy |
| 05:21.14 | cybane | What do you mean? |
| 05:21.19 | Tem | Cleveland, for example, doesn't really exist |
| 05:21.33 | cybane | Cleveland is mistake on the lake Ohio |
| 05:21.37 | Tem | just like foreigners |
| 05:21.39 | ckknight | does anyone know if it's possible to make a statusbar go from right-to-left instead of left-to-right? |
| 05:21.45 | cybane | Columbus is where it is at |
| 05:21.46 | Tem | no, it's not |
| 05:21.56 | Tem | s/not/not possible/ |
| 05:22.26 | cybane | Would have been easier to retype it |
| 05:22.26 | Tem | in some ways, you might be better off without using a statusbar at all |
| 05:22.39 | ckknight | I like pretty pictures, though. |
| 05:22.42 | cybane | I use AG_Unit Frames they are nice |
| 05:22.50 | ckknight | cybane: I'm writing my own UF at the moment. |
| 05:22.53 | Tem | I meant with a texture that acts like a statusbar |
| 05:22.54 | cybane | DIE PRETTY PICTURES!! |
| 05:23.02 | cybane | Functionality > Pretty!! |
| 05:23.04 | ckknight | Tem: ah. |
| 05:23.16 | Tem | dunno how they'd match up performance wise |
| 05:23.42 | Tem | but if you want special functionality that a regular statusbar can't do... |
| 05:24.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:24.14 | ckknight | I see what you're saying. |
| 05:24.16 | ckknight | interesting idea |
| 05:24.25 | ckknight | for now, I'll just leave it as left-to-right |
| 05:24.26 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:24.28 | cybane | Does blizzard make it so your status bars only go left to right? |
| 05:24.31 | ckknight | don't want to deal ith textures |
| 05:24.36 | ckknight | cybane: and bottom to top |
| 05:25.05 | cybane | I would like to know how they made that work |
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| 05:25.42 | Shirik | I know I'm really late here |
| 05:25.46 | Shirik | but I agree with what Tem's saying |
| 05:25.57 | Shirik | if you want special functionality, go ahead and use a texture that acts like a status bar |
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| 05:39.27 | cybane | Why do people get hardons for damage meters |
| 05:44.15 | ckknight | because it's a subversive measure of their penis size |
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| 05:48.09 | Shirik | cladhaire left some debug code in, oops :P |
| 05:48.13 | Shirik | my chatlog just got spammed |
| 05:48.26 | bleeter | spam++ |
| 05:48.40 | Shirik | more like spam += 5000 |
| 05:52.22 | cybane | lol |
| 05:56.30 | Corrodias | because it's a way of seeing who's outputting the most damage, healing, or whatever |
| 05:56.45 | Corrodias | SOME addon i'm using is responsible for ridiculous amounts of memory allocation during combat |
| 05:56.55 | Corrodias | during 5-man combat against tough enemies that is |
| 05:56.59 | Corrodias | but i have no way of determining what it is |
| 05:57.44 | Corrodias | it's not KTM or SW_Stats |
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| 05:57.56 | cybane | See I only care about the mob dying |
| 05:58.17 | cybane | If it is dead woot who cares who did the Most DMG all it is going to do is get people to not do their jobs |
| 05:58.28 | Corrodias | okay, but if you see bob output twice as much damage as you did, you might get curious as to why |
| 05:58.32 | Corrodias | perhaps he can give you a tip |
| 05:58.44 | Corrodias | same goes if you see somebody with significantly less output than yourself |
| 06:00.56 | Shirik | Corrodias: I have the same problem actually |
| 06:00.59 | Shirik | well... rather |
| 06:01.11 | Shirik | I have something using rediculous amounts of memory right when combat ends |
| 06:01.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | By the way: 4 (FOUR) vials from Lady Vashj? Funny. Now fix that. Yes, fix that right now. I realise tormenting yourselves is something you do as a hobby, we however would like to have fun. |
| 06:01.31 | Shirik | at some points it even freezes the game |
| 06:01.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | from nihilium |
| 06:01.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahhahahahaha |
| 06:01.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the irony is delicious |
| 06:03.46 | Corrodias | i don't understand |
| 06:05.49 | cybane | Me either |
| 06:08.28 | cybane | I really hoped there would be an underwater instance |
| 06:10.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're whining because of a timesink |
| 06:10.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | and saying they like to have fun, whereas blizzard loves tormenting themselves |
| 06:10.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | none of the "cutting edge" guilds raid for fun, just epeen |
| 06:11.05 | cybane | Blizzard has fun with people saying wow they actually do all this crap for a pixelated item that does stuff |
| 06:12.26 | ckknight | an underwater instance would be interesting |
| 06:12.46 | ckknight | you'd need a warlock or a shaman with a lot of fish scales to even try it |
| 06:14.08 | cybane | They would come out with an item like a ring or trinket that grants underwater breathing |
| 06:14.16 | cybane | Or everyone would go get a hydrocane |
| 06:14.29 | Shirik | or make that quest in nagrand repeatable |
| 06:14.43 | Shirik | the one that gets you 20 underwater breathing berries |
| 06:14.44 | cybane | I would not be suprised if they came out with a Fish Bone Ring |
| 06:14.46 | Shirik | for sifting through poo |
| 06:14.54 | cybane | lol |
| 06:15.39 | cybane | woah I can tell I had chili for dinner smelly |
| 06:21.58 | Arrowmaster | there is a ring that grants underwater breathing |
| 06:22.07 | Arrowmaster | it just costs 10 elementium |
| 06:24.15 | Nom- | yummy pub lunch |
| 06:24.20 | Nom- | beer in an hour too |
| 06:24.22 | Nom- | <3 this place |
| 06:24.45 | Nom- | Weekend started at 12:30 :P |
| 06:27.56 | cybane | lol |
| 06:30.13 | Nom- | SRSLY :D |
| 06:30.28 | Nom- | Just got back from pub... "work" for 1 hour then go to drinks for the rest of the afternoon |
| 06:30.31 | Nom- | It rocks. |
| 06:30.39 | batrick | I made a WoW chat lua interpretter |
| 06:30.41 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i made a wow interpretive dancer |
| 06:31.22 | batrick | o rly? |
| 06:31.41 | Shirik | a what? |
| 06:32.37 | Shirik | what is a "WoW chat lua interpreter"? |
| 06:33.25 | krka | you made an interpreter? that's impressive |
| 06:34.17 | krka | or you just use lua itself to create a function from (part of) the chat line, run it, and show the result? |
| 06:34.26 | Shirik | that's what I would have done.. |
| 06:35.33 | Nom- | In the popular MMORPG World of Warcraft, there is an NPC called "O'reely" (found in Booty Bay), one called "Yarly" (found in Undercity), and a white owl called "O'reilly" (found in Tanaris). And, more recently, in the Caverns of Time there is also an NPC named "Yarly".[7] |
| 06:35.37 | Nom- | kekeke |
| 06:35.53 | batrick | krka, that's what i did :P |
| 06:36.07 | Corrodias | awesome! i just got disconnected for mounting! |
| 06:36.16 | Shirik | You obviously tried to hax your mount |
| 06:36.22 | krka | my gf does that to me sometimes too... :( |
| 06:36.26 | Shirik | haha |
| 06:36.31 | Corrodias | oh, i get disconnected once every day for no reason |
| 06:36.41 | Shirik | blizzard just hates you |
| 06:37.42 | Nom- | I occasionally get disconnected for using the lift in Undercity |
| 06:37.46 | Nom- | That's rather annoying... |
| 06:37.52 | Shirik | oh yeah me too |
| 06:37.57 | Shirik | if you keep running |
| 06:38.01 | Shirik | when the elevator door opens |
| 06:38.02 | Shirik | it kicks you out |
| 06:39.29 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 06:39.51 | Nom- | I find it concerning when my mobile connects to a cell tower that's unreasonably far away |
| 06:41.01 | Nom- | hmm |
| 06:41.05 | Nom- | Anyone tried LOTRO |
| 06:41.18 | Shirik | My guild is |
| 06:41.20 | Nom- | I'm tempted to give it a go, but i'm scared I might like it more than WoW :P |
| 06:41.21 | Shirik | and they say it's amazing |
| 06:43.50 | Nom- | Might grab a PC Gamer on the way home and give it a whirl :) |
| 06:45.48 | Nom- | I'm too addicted to WoW tho |
| 06:45.56 | Nom- | I'll probably end up levelling my hunter, mage, druid or priest' |
| 06:46.06 | Nom- | I should level my priest, i wanted to give shadow priesting a whirl |
| 06:48.01 | bleeter | LotRO .NET only... pfft |
| 06:48.21 | bleeter | Win32 .NET, 'n all |
| 06:48.32 | Corrodias | they used the .net framework for a game? >:o |
| 06:48.50 | MentalPower | bleeter: go code a GPL version of .NET for Linux :P |
| 06:48.52 | Nom- | That's just evil... |
| 06:49.01 | MentalPower | anyways, gnight |
| 06:49.10 | Corrodias | Mono |
| 06:49.33 | Corrodias | possibly an open source multiplatform .net framework |
| 06:49.38 | Corrodias | not sure about the open part |
| 06:50.39 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 06:50.43 | Nom- | evil, evil, evil |
| 06:50.53 | Nom- | Two sets of code to do the same thing, and one is broken :( |
| 06:52.04 | ckknight | .NET is actually not a bad framework, all in all |
| 06:52.24 | Shirik | LotRO is .NET? |
| 06:52.51 | Corrodias | i wonder how much microsoft payed the devs to use it |
| 06:53.05 | Shirik | Actually, ckknight, that's what I hear, is that is' decent |
| 06:53.14 | Shirik | the problem is that Microsoft's trying to take over the world (what else is new) with it |
| 06:53.31 | ckknight | yea, that is one issue |
| 06:53.34 | bleeter | MP: funnily enough, I did try to get it working under the 'official' .NET/mono thing in linux |
| 06:53.37 | bleeter | totally failed |
| 06:53.39 | ckknight | I've done a lot of Mono work, though |
| 06:53.44 | bleeter | as did trying similar approaches in Wine |
| 06:54.02 | bleeter | tbh, not sure if LotRO *IS* .NET |
| 06:54.13 | bleeter | it was just crashing out when trying to load with buckets of .net errors |
| 06:54.37 | ckknight | probably uses lots of pcalls and such :-P |
| 06:55.38 | ckknight | or whatever it's called |
| 06:55.43 | ckknight | ah, p/invoke |
| 06:56.04 | Shirik | pcall is lua :P |
| 06:56.45 | ckknight | and I figured it out before you said that, so what's the problem? |
| 06:56.57 | wereHamster|zZz | Corrodias, Mono is licensed under '|| ( GPL-2 LGPL-2 X11 )' |
| 06:57.08 | bleeter | thing that *really* pissed me about it, was it took me about 6 goes to download the LotRO online beta 'coz their servers would hiccup and cause wget and friends to fubar |
| 06:57.13 | bleeter | and have to start the d/l again |
| 06:57.38 | bleeter | so, wasn't really at all suprised when the game failed so spectacularly |
| 07:02.38 | Shirik | anyone else use location_fu ? |
| 07:03.55 | Corrodias | i do |
| 07:04.08 | Shirik | what version are you using? Do you have that information readily available? |
| 07:04.12 | Shirik | (And is it working?) |
| 07:04.57 | Corrodias | um |
| 07:05.21 | Corrodias | r26653. works great. |
| 07:05.47 | Shirik | oh it's by ckknight? |
| 07:06.38 | Shirik | hrm |
| 07:06.40 | Nom- | LocationFu works flawlessly |
| 07:06.43 | Shirik | why is the updater not updating it then |
| 07:06.56 | Shirik | oh wait no mine is higher :/ |
| 07:06.59 | Shirik | 29519 |
| 07:07.16 | Shirik | I'm trying to figure out if the updater botched it when installing or if it's a problem with the addon |
| 07:09.16 | Shirik | ckknight: Is TouristLib supposed to be included in LocationFu? |
| 07:09.22 | Shirik | According to the description I think it is |
| 07:09.24 | ckknight | yes |
| 07:09.49 | Shirik | either I'm blind or I think the one you uploaded to wowi is missing it |
| 07:10.01 | Shirik | I just redownloaded it manually to check and I don't see it in the zip |
| 07:10.55 | Shirik | yeah and looking at the comments on that page, I'm not the only one with that problem |
| 07:10.57 | ckknight | yea, my bad. |
| 07:11.07 | Shirik | no problem, just thought I should let you know |
| 07:11.10 | Shirik | I thought it was me, really >< |
| 07:11.28 | wereHamster | Didn't I report that problem a few weeks ago? |
| 07:12.43 | Shirik | I've been running without it for the last few days |
| 07:12.53 | Shirik | And I've like "god I don't know how I ever got along without that thing" |
| 07:12.56 | Shirik | I've been so lost >< |
| 07:13.23 | Corrodias | i update my addons MOSTLY when i have a problem, but i also occasionally check wowinterface's list of addon updates |
| 07:13.37 | Shirik | I kinda accidentally updated >< |
| 07:13.49 | Shirik | Was testing the updater, didn't expect it to actually find something legit to update |
| 07:13.53 | Corrodias | i wonder if honorfu is in a state in which it gives useful information about honor |
| 07:14.06 | Shirik | actually what I've heard is it's far more accurate than blizzard's listing |
| 07:14.08 | ckknight | Corrodias: supposed to be. |
| 07:14.13 | Shirik | never really tested myself |
| 07:14.43 | Corrodias | i shall try the latest version |
| 07:15.37 | Corrodias | for a long time there it told me i had 62 honor. no matter what. |
| 07:27.39 | Corrodias | uh oh |
| 07:27.47 | Corrodias | http://www.miketyndall.com/littlekuriboh/ : The requested URL /littlekuriboh/ was not found on this server. |
| 07:27.59 | Corrodias | i wasn't finished downloading them yet >:o |
| 07:28.02 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:29.06 | cybane | What dreams may come http://ctprofiles.net/5245771 |
| 07:30.41 | bleeter | what? you want a toon with no repo, no talent and bugger all skills but epicd out? |
| 07:30.45 | bleeter | *rep |
| 07:31.08 | cybane | Meh it is just to see how much health mana and spell power |
| 07:32.10 | Corrodias | 8200 is not so much health :o |
| 07:32.24 | Corrodias | maybe unbuffed. okay. |
| 07:32.26 | cybane | That is without blood pact though |
| 07:33.07 | Corrodias | even without their imp out, our warlocks seem to be able to reach 10k with a priest fort buff and a mark of the wild |
| 07:33.54 | Corrodias | and those rep bars are obvously not correct |
| 07:34.13 | Corrodias | or... any of the profile except the first tab :o |
| 07:35.25 | Corrodias | WHAT |
| 07:35.36 | Corrodias | Gladiator's Dreadweave Gloves: Equip: Gives you a 50% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Fear. |
| 07:35.43 | Shirik | HAHAHA |
| 07:35.45 | Shirik | wow. |
| 07:35.46 | Corrodias | does blizzard have ANY idea what pvp is like? |
| 07:35.51 | Corrodias | DO THEY KNOW PEOPLE CAN PVP? |
| 07:38.26 | cybane | That is odd after I put in my talents my HP dropped |
| 07:39.02 | cybane | Yeah I put those on there just for the fear effect |
| 07:39.38 | Shadowed | gladiator gear is the best you can get for pvp actually |
| 07:39.48 | cybane | No as an affliction lock |
| 07:39.57 | cybane | I do not like some of the set gear |
| 07:40.09 | Shadowed | If you're a lock and you're in arenas, I hope you're spamming fear |
| 07:41.41 | cybane | As an affliction lock I did some trials with a druid he healed me and I killed them with dots |
| 07:44.30 | Corrodias | our 3v3 arena team doesn't tend to do so well |
| 07:48.09 | Shirik | ?lv Cairenn |
| 07:49.00 | cybane | lol |
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| 07:53.13 | cybane | Okay Auqa Teen Hunger Force is the most retarded thing I have ever seen |
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| 07:55.52 | Shirik | that's what I said the first time I watched it |
| 07:55.55 | Shirik | now I actually like it |
| 07:56.01 | Shirik | it's just one of those things |
| 08:04.05 | cybane | No just retarded |
| 08:05.15 | Corrodias | its just one of those days |
| 08:05.26 | Corrodias | fun song |
| 08:05.27 | Gngngsk | I'd have to agree with Shirik |
| 08:05.42 | Shirik | you agree that the first time I watched it I thought it was retarded? |
| 08:05.48 | Corrodias | i have liked some eps of ATHF, but not all of them |
| 08:05.48 | Shirik | I don't know how you can disagree with that :P |
| 08:05.49 | Gngngsk | when I first watched it I thought it was utter retardation. But I found myself downloading every season like 3 years later. |
| 08:06.03 | Shirik | but yeah in all seirousness I think that's pretty much how everyone got into it |
| 08:06.10 | Corrodias | i disagree with Shirik. he actually liked it the first time. |
| 08:06.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 08:06.45 | Gngngsk | can't wait for king colon! |
| 08:22.22 | Shirik | night all |
| 08:23.43 | Corrodias | i need a way to obtain the OTHER "abridged yu-gi-oh" videos |
| 08:23.47 | Corrodias | past 5 |
| 08:24.04 | Shirik|zZz | hmm |
| 08:24.07 | Corrodias | oooh |
| 08:24.08 | Shirik|zZz | I don't know if you can download them here |
| 08:24.09 | Corrodias | "We apologize for the inconvenience. Please contact the webmaster/ tech support immediately to have them rectify this." |
| 08:24.12 | Shirik|zZz | but, for all my anime needs |
| 08:24.15 | Corrodias | "error id: "bad_httpd_conf"" |
| 08:24.21 | Shirik|zZz | http://www.crunchyroll.com |
| 08:24.42 | Shirik|zZz | that at wowwiki? |
| 08:24.47 | Shirik|zZz | er |
| 08:24.49 | Shirik|zZz | wowinterface? |
| 08:24.57 | Corrodias | nope |
| 08:25.02 | Corrodias | the host of the videos |
| 08:25.05 | Shirik|zZz | yeah I was like, I'm not having a problem :P |
| 08:25.05 | Shirik|zZz | ah |
| 08:25.07 | Shirik|zZz | ok well, night |
| 08:25.14 | Shirik|zZz | good luck finding a replacement |
| 08:25.54 | Corrodias | how unfair that Elixir of Major Defense requires 3 ancient lichen |
| 08:26.21 | Corrodias | it's not all that amazing and yet it takes 3 of the second most difficult herbs to get? :/ |
| 08:26.31 | Corrodias | well, not counting fel lotus and black lotus |
| 08:28.36 | nevcairiel | whats the most difficult then? ^^ |
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| 08:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | rarest are mana thistle |
| 08:45.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they're in a set area so they're pretty easy to farm |
| 08:48.24 | Corrodias | not counting fel lotus and black lotus, the former because it's a rare drop from any herb node in outland and the second because it only can spawn in very few locations, seemingly only one at a time |
| 08:51.17 | cybane | This is awesome http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/01/boston.bombscare/ |
| 08:54.14 | Nom- | bahahaha |
| 08:54.18 | Nom- | just got back from meeting thing |
| 08:54.22 | Nom- | it's almost hoem time |
| 08:54.36 | Corrodias | "charges they created panic" -- i don't remember "Creating a Panic" as a state law. maybe it's in the US Code. ;P |
| 08:56.03 | Corrodias | hmm, this cartoon character is flipping me off and his box has a light on it. it must be a bomb. |
| 08:57.34 | Corrodias | those politicians really know how to overreact to a few lights |
| 08:57.40 | Corrodias | here's my advice |
| 08:57.47 | Corrodias | if you build a bomb, don't put lights on it. |
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| 08:59.14 | krka | but how will know it's a bomb then? |
| 08:59.20 | krka | it must tick and have lights damn it |
| 08:59.26 | Corrodias | that's kind of the point :o |
| 08:59.31 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Ragamuffin (n=ragamuff@ACBCF87A.ipt.aol.com) |
| 09:00.18 | Corrodias | "It had a very sinister appearance," Coakley told reporters. "It had a battery behind it, and wires." |
| 09:00.39 | nevcairiel | it needs wires, and all wires in a different color |
| 09:01.01 | Corrodias | man, i can't wait for all of our current politicians to die |
| 09:01.17 | Corrodias | maybe in 50 years we'll have people in office who know how to use computers |
| 09:01.28 | Corrodias | and aren't terrified by wires and batteries |
| 09:01.38 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt bet on that |
| 09:02.10 | krka | i don't thing our young politicians are much better than the old |
| 09:02.12 | nevcairiel | plus in 50 years we dont have computers like we know it anymore .. so the politicians might accept the current computers .. but not the new stuff from in 50 years :P |
| 09:02.32 | Corrodias | bah |
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| 09:03.58 | krka | in 50 years there will be much tube-legislation! |
| 09:05.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | politicians are too disconnected from real society to be worth much of anything |
| 09:08.55 | Corrodias | does this guy even read the words that he's typing himself? "Bears do not generate agro from damage only. Mangle (Bear) was buffed to have 50% more agro" |
| 09:09.15 | Corrodias | mangle is -- you'll never guess -- a damage attack |
| 09:09.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really, not anymore |
| 09:09.42 | Corrodias | and that 50% higher threat? that's 50% more than -- i'm totally serious -- what it would generate with damage alone |
| 09:09.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's less threat than it did pre-nerf |
| 09:10.34 | Corrodias | if you can't do any damage, mangle won't do you any good either! you'll generate 50% more of nothing! |
| 09:10.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's true :x |
| 09:10.52 | Corrodias | i want to beat this guy with the stupid stick but i see SOMEBODY ELSE GOT THERE FIRST |
| 09:11.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | they need to chuck some modifiers back on maul and swipe |
| 09:11.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i have something to use other than mangle and lacerate |
| 09:11.38 | Corrodias | well, at least damage-based threat can scale a little, not like how prot warriors fare :( |
| 09:12.11 | Corrodias | they tell me they don't have much for threat generation that increases with gear, although i can't say i know what their skills are |
| 09:15.10 | Kirkburn|afk | I love this ... watching House and just noticed he was reading "Classic Lesbian Prison Stories" in the airport |
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| 09:28.54 | SunTiger | Kirkburn|afk, he is awesome like that. |
| 09:37.02 | Corrodias | am i the only one who thinks level 1 avatars look better than level 70 ones, on the wow forums? |
| 09:42.22 | cybane | Maybe |
| 09:42.37 | cybane | I think the level 70 Avatars have way too much crap in them |
| 09:44.38 | Corrodias | yep |
| 09:53.21 | cybane | Because I do not like the fact ny Druid has been neutered |
| 09:53.54 | Corrodias | it is a little harder to solo those bosses now |
| 09:56.02 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ForGet (n=Lythium@core.sevstar.net) |
| 09:56.25 | ForGet | :)) |
| 09:56.56 | ForGet | :)) |
| 09:56.58 | ForGet | :)) |
| 09:57.01 | ForGet | Ïðèâåò Cairenn|afk ChanServ clad|sleep dolby-wowi Iriel|Away AnduinLothar Esamynn|Away MentalPower|ZZzz norgs SunTiger Tem [Ammo] _bs Adys Alba^[AFK] Antiarc|Work Arrowmaster bindi bleeter Bruners chuckg CIA-16 ckknight cncfanatics Codayus Corrodias CrazyMYKL cybane dieck Droolio dukeku Fin FlAWD Fumler Garoun glimm3r Gngsk gnorlish GomiNoSensei Groll haste IleBur Industrial insastolemynick Jocco_S kahdgarxi KaoS` Karrion kelvie Kemayo kergoth Kirkb |
| 09:57.28 | cybane | WTF is that |
| 09:57.29 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 09:57.29 | ckknight | kickban him |
| 09:57.29 | ckknight | he fucked with #wowace too |
| 09:57.34 | nevcairiel | he pinged all ops on his own |
| 09:57.38 | nevcairiel | so if someone notices .. :D |
| 09:57.48 | cybane | I keep forgetting I am not in the gentoo channel so I can swear |
| 09:57.56 | ForGet | :)) |
| 09:58.33 | cncfanatics | ForGet, dont ping a whole channel :p |
| 09:58.33 | ForGet | :)) |
| 09:59.02 | Adys | I think this guy doesn't have a brain to talk yet <shrug> |
| 09:59.02 | cybane | Ping flood or just ping |
| 10:00.19 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 10:00.33 | ForGet | :)) |
| 10:01.09 | ForGet | (% |
| 10:01.56 | ForGet | :(( |
| 10:02.49 | ForGet | hey! |
| 10:03.46 | ForGet | hey! |
| 10:03.48 | ForGet | :(( |
| 10:04.02 | ForGet | hehe |
| 10:07.52 | ForGet | the channel of idiots ^) |
| 10:07.52 | ForGet | :)) |
| 10:07.52 | nevcairiel | too bad none of the ops actually was awake |
| 10:08.18 | ForGet | :) |
| 10:09.18 | ForGet | nevcairiel »fool |
| 10:09.49 | ForGet | nevcairiel »fool |
| 10:09.51 | ForGet | ^) |
| 10:09.53 | ForGet | :) |
| 10:09.55 | ForGet | :)) |
| 10:11.01 | ForGet | nevcairiel »I hate you! |
| 10:11.21 | nevcairiel | the feeling is mutual |
| 10:11.40 | ForGet | :) |
| 10:12.00 | ForGet | nevcairiel »you are just a little fool ) |
| 10:12.46 | ForGet | :) |
| 10:12.49 | ForGet | :)) |
| 10:13.24 | ForGet | =(((( |
| 10:14.42 | ForGet | goodbuye people=) |
| 10:14.51 | ForGet | I wish you luck =) |
| 10:14.57 | ForGet | nevcairiel »fnd you too |
| 10:15.02 | ForGet | nevcairiel »*and=) |
| 10:15.24 | ForGet | Ïðèâåò Cairenn|afk ChanServ clad|sleep dolby-wowi Iriel|Away AnduinLothar Esamynn|Away MentalPower|ZZzz norgs SunTiger Tem [Ammo] _bs Adys Alba^[AFK] Antiarc|Work Arrowmaster bindi bleeter Bruners chuckg CIA-16 ckknight cncfanatics Codayus Corrodias CrazyMYKL cybane dieck Droolio dukeku Fin FlAWD Fumler Garoun glimm3r Gngsk gnorlish GomiNoSensei Groll haste IleBur Industrial insastolemynick Jocco_S kahdgarxi KaoS` Karrion kelvie Kemayo kergoth Kirkb |
| 10:15.47 | ForGet | goodbuye ... |
| 10:15.51 | ckknight | cya |
| 10:16.04 | ForGet | goodbuye ... |
| 10:16.09 | ckknight | nevcairiel: you really are just a little fool, you know |
| 10:16.19 | ForGet | ckknight »:)) |
| 10:16.58 | ForGet | goodbuye ... |
| 10:16.58 | nevcairiel | now dont encourage him |
| 10:17.03 | ckknight | yea, my bad |
| 10:17.10 | ckknight | go away, Frenchie! |
| 10:17.15 | Adys | Hey |
| 10:17.21 | ckknight | hey, Adys |
| 10:17.27 | Adys | Dont hit on the frenchie! |
| 10:17.57 | ForGet | ckknight »how old are you??? |
| 10:18.43 | ForGet | ckknight »fool, fool, fool .... fool |
| 10:19.25 | ckknight | NO U |
| 10:19.37 | ForGet | what? |
| 10:19.53 | ckknight | ur dum |
| 10:20.35 | ForGet | ckknight »fool=) |
| 10:20.55 | ckknight | gheix0r |
| 10:22.10 | ForGet | nevcairiel »why are you so unsociable?? |
| 10:22.23 | ForGet | nevcairiel »!!! |
| 10:22.29 | Adys | Man, he can spell unsociable but not goodbye |
| 10:22.34 | Adys | now here is something |
| 10:23.01 | Adys | anyways bbl |
| 10:23.08 | ForGet | Adys »lol=) |
| 10:23.37 | ForGet | :)) |
| 10:25.12 | ForGet | hey!! |
| 10:26.41 | ForGet | I'm crazy?? |
| 10:27.26 | ForGet | I'm stupid?=) |
| 10:28.18 | ForGet | why nobody is speaking to me? |
| 10:29.08 | cncfanatics | becuz ur a fool ? |
| 10:29.25 | ForGet | no |
| 10:30.19 | ForGet | cncfanatics »where do you live? |
| 10:30.49 | ForGet | cncfanatics »where do you live? |
| 10:32.30 | ForGet | goodbuye... |
| 10:32.48 | ForGet | goodbuye... |
| 10:32.50 | ForGet | goodbuye... |
| 10:33.30 | ForGet | hey!! |
| 10:33.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, that guy's an ass |
| 10:33.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait, you're still here |
| 10:33.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | if only i had ops :[ |
| 10:34.16 | ForGet | Mr_Rabies2 »:) but you don't has it=) |
| 10:34.50 | ForGet | Mr_Rabies2 »*doesn't :) |
| 10:35.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think you were closer the first time |
| 10:35.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | lost cause, i'd say |
| 10:35.40 | ForGet | Mr_Rabies2 »fool :) |
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| 10:37.44 | ForGet | [dRaCo] »:) |
| 10:38.46 | ForGet | Ïðèâåò Cairenn|afk ChanServ clad|sleep dolby-wowi Iriel|Away AnduinLothar Esamynn|Away MentalPower|ZZzz norgs SunTiger Tem [Ammo] [dRaCo] _bs Adys|afk Alba^[AFK] Antiarc|Work Arrowmaster bindi bleeter Bruners chuckg CIA-16 ckknight cncfanatics Codayus Corrodias CrazyMYKL cybane dieck Droolio dukeku Fin FlAWD Fumler Garoun glimm3r Gngsk gnorlish GomiNoSensei Groll haste IleBur Industrial insastolemynick Jocco_S kahdgarxi KaoS` Karrion kelvie Kemayo k |
| 10:39.33 | [dRaCo] | yeah... whatever. |
| 10:40.05 | ForGet | [dRaCo] »:) |
| 10:40.07 | ForGet | [dRaCo] »:) |
| 10:41.06 | [dRaCo] | I love my ignore list. |
| 10:41.06 | IleBur | hmmm |
| 10:41.07 | IleBur | lol |
| 10:41.07 | ForGet | [dRaCo] »=)))) :)) |
| 10:41.07 | IleBur | definetly |
| 10:41.11 | ForGet | IleBur »fool |
| 10:41.16 | ForGet | Âîò êàêîå âûøëî äåëî: ß õîòåë, îíà õîòåëà… Íî ñóäüáà ñêàçàëà : “ÍÅÒ!” Íå íàøëè ìû òóàëåò. |
| 10:42.13 | ForGet | :)) |
| 10:42.46 | ForGet | IleBur »:)) |
| 10:42.47 | ForGet | IleBur »:)) |
| 10:42.49 | ForGet | IleBur »:)) |
| 10:42.51 | ForGet | IleBur »:)) |
| 10:42.53 | IleBur | ForGet |
| 10:42.53 | ForGet | IleBur »:)) |
| 10:42.57 | ForGet | IleBur »=) |
| 10:43.25 | IleBur | keep 'em comin |
| 10:43.41 | IleBur | finally someone notices me |
| 10:43.55 | ckknight | lol |
| 10:44.14 | ForGet | ckknight »^) |
| 10:44.18 | ForGet | ckknight »:)) |
| 10:44.22 | ckknight | ~lart ForGet |
| 10:44.22 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses ForGet down |
| 10:44.48 | ForGet | 5-ChanServ- ForGet added to #wowi-lounge access list at level 999. |
| 10:44.58 | ForGet | 5-ChanServ- IleBur added to #wowi-lounge access list at level 999. |
| 10:45.06 | ForGet | :) |
| 10:45.49 | cybane | Is he still around? |
| 10:45.55 | IleBur | seems like so |
| 10:45.56 | ForGet | cybane »yes |
| 10:46.13 | ForGet | 5-ChanServ- cybane added to #wowi-lounge access list at level 999. |
| 10:46.33 | cybane | Yeah |
| 10:46.41 | cybane | rrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttt |
| 10:47.13 | ForGet | cybane »What's your name? |
| 10:47.52 | ckknight | Madness? |
| 10:47.55 | ckknight | This is Sparta! |
| 10:48.22 | ForGet | ckknight »:)) |
| 10:48.23 | ForGet | ckknight »:)) |
| 10:48.29 | ForGet | ckknight »:)) |
| 10:49.11 | ForGet | goodbuye people |
| 10:49.13 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/southernjesse |
| 10:49.34 | ForGet | goodbuye people |
| 10:49.35 | ForGet | goodbuye people |
| 10:49.36 | ForGet | goodbuye people |
| 10:49.36 | ForGet | goodbuye people |
| 10:49.37 | ForGet | goodbuye people |
| 10:50.02 | ForGet | :))))))) |
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| 10:50.21 | ForGet | cncfanatics »=))) |
| 10:50.38 | ForGet | cncfanatics »=))) |
| 10:51.00 | IleBur | LF @-tagged person |
| 10:51.12 | ForGet | cncfanatics »=))) |
| 10:51.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone needs to make a votekick script for purl :[ |
| 10:51.47 | ForGet | Mr_Rabies2 »:)) |
| 10:51.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh no |
| 10:51.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh no you don't |
| 10:51.57 | ForGet | Mr_Rabies2 »:)) |
| 10:52.01 | ForGet | Mr_Rabies2 »:)) |
| 10:52.07 | ckknight | Oh no you di'n't |
| 10:52.14 | ForGet | Mr_Rabies2 »:)) |
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| 10:52.32 | ckknight | he left |
| 10:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i chucked some ctcps his way |
| 10:52.34 | ckknight | finally. |
| 10:52.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | he fears me |
| 10:52.37 | ckknight | ah. |
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| 10:52.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | well his vhost or whatever's russian |
| 10:53.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyway, for something completely different than unending channel spam: http://awful.smashtech.net/files/2e/2e41e39007046e6f1999e366d5645ea688675347.jpg |
| 10:53.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | that screen makes me giggle |
| 10:53.55 | ckknight | lol, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 10:54.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | ckknight »:)) |
| 10:54.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | ckknight »:)) |
| 10:54.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | just kidding :p |
| 10:54.21 | ckknight | oh dear lord |
| 10:54.40 | Adys|afk | lol |
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| 11:14.14 | ForGet | hello people |
| 11:14.31 | ForGet | :)) |
| 11:15.01 | ForGet | :(( |
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| 11:16.39 | ForGet | :(( |
| 11:20.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone happen to know any freenode ircops? |
| 11:20.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe we could get this bozo g- or k-lined |
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| 11:56.44 | wereHamster|away | who's this ForGet? |
| 11:58.42 | krka | someone who most of us are ignoring by now |
| 11:59.58 | wereHamster|away | can't ChanServ auto-ban people? |
| 12:03.19 | Alba^[AFK] | why has no one slapped a ban on forget yet? |
| 12:05.47 | Alba^[AFK] | some one slap a ban on *!*@core.sevstar.net and we can all get rid of him |
| 12:08.53 | cncfanatics | maybe because all ops are afk |
| 12:21.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Needs moar ops! |
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| 12:23.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Eek! |
| 12:23.17 | dolby-wowi | :) |
| 12:28.55 | Adys|afk | Alo kirk |
| 12:29.02 | Kirkburn|afk | 'Allo 'Allo |
| 12:29.10 | Adys|afk | See, Im being original |
| 12:29.14 | Adys|afk | I use an afk tag too |
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| 13:06.00 | mahiro | hi |
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| 14:47.11 | Beladona | what text editors do you guys typically use for addon development |
| 14:47.22 | Beladona | just getting ideas |
| 14:49.00 | haste | I've used vim and SciTE |
| 14:50.07 | Beladona | I ahve been testing a bunch of different low footprint editors lately for the windows environment. I like Notepad++ but I can't seem to get it to like my custom language I wrote for wow. So I was trying to find another that does |
| 14:50.27 | FlAWD | Notepad. |
| 14:50.48 | FlAWD | Can't go wrong with good olde notepad :) |
| 14:50.52 | Beladona | sadly, the only problem notepad++ has is that it doesn't like doing --[[ commentts, and still doing ['string'] |
| 14:51.07 | Beladona | with the right syntax highlighting anyway |
| 14:51.25 | FlAWD | erm ... what's that other one... textpad i want to say? |
| 14:51.34 | Beladona | textmate? |
| 14:52.02 | FlAWD | http://www.textpad.com/download/index.html |
| 14:52.09 | Beladona | blah |
| 14:52.18 | Beladona | I wasn't very impressed with that one |
| 14:52.25 | FlAWD | ah |
| 14:52.51 | FlAWD | http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ |
| 14:53.04 | FlAWD | http://www.pspad.com/en/ |
| 14:53.09 | FlAWD | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=text+code+editor&btnG=Google+Search |
| 14:53.11 | FlAWD | hehe |
| 14:53.21 | Beladona | I went through all the usual suspects |
| 14:53.28 | FlAWD | oh ok |
| 14:53.28 | Beladona | including the wowwiki list |
| 14:53.40 | Beladona | I was just hoping there might be an obscure one I missed |
| 14:53.55 | FlAWD | i'm sure there is, but being obscure :X |
| 14:54.21 | FlAWD | anywhoo ... good luck with that, i've got to go to work |
| 14:54.23 | FlAWD | see ya |
| 14:54.51 | Beladona | oh yeah, the other notepad++ limitation is that it only supports 4 sets of keywrods |
| 14:54.58 | Beladona | for custom languages |
| 14:55.24 | Beladona | which I have filled up with native keywords, reserved keywords, global api, and widget api |
| 14:55.38 | Beladona | but wanted to add 2 more for default frames, and secure functions |
| 14:55.41 | Beladona | =( |
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| 15:14.57 | jaxdahl | is there a lotroi channel? |
| 15:15.29 | Cairenn | not yet |
| 15:16.00 | Cairenn | will probably make one |
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| 15:19.39 | jaxdahl | cool |
| 15:19.44 | jaxdahl | i'm ready to roll |
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| 15:20.30 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:20.55 | Cairenn | I want the servers up already, but otoh I want them to wait a bit because I have some errands I *have* to go run |
| 15:20.57 | Cairenn | and on that note .... |
| 15:22.03 | Osagasu | o.O |
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| 15:49.26 | jaxdahl | 24 pack of mountain dew .. check |
| 15:49.33 | jaxdahl | empty milk jug .. check |
| 15:49.39 | jaxdahl | empty sock .. check |
| 15:49.42 | jaxdahl | yep, i'm good to go |
| 15:54.35 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure I should ask what the sock is for |
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| 16:08.58 | wereHamster|away | today patchday? |
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| 16:26.55 | jaxdahl | zenzelezz, if you watched southpark |
| 16:26.56 | jaxdahl | you'd know |
| 16:27.01 | jaxdahl | wereHamster, it's lotro day |
| 16:35.58 | zenzelezz | I did watch South Park, but not every episode |
| 16:36.05 | zenzelezz | jaxdahl: launch day? |
| 16:39.09 | wereHamster | was lotro released today? |
| 16:41.10 | TC_Working | kinda |
| 16:41.10 | Gryphen | april 6 |
| 16:41.10 | TC_Working | Can't wait until April 6th? Pre-order now and start playing as early as March 30th |
| 16:41.10 | TC_Working | ""* |
| 16:41.19 | TC_Working | "Get up to a week of early play time in advance of the World Tour of Middle-earth. If you Pre-order, you also get to keep any characters you create during the World Tour! That's right, Pre-order customers can carry over their characters from the World Tour to the official commercial launch on April 24th. To find out more about these and other benefits of Pre-ordering, including the option to subscribe for as little as $9.99/mo, or purchase a Life |
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| 17:12.39 | Shirik | I wonder |
| 17:12.53 | Shirik | what do you guys think -- is it illegal to replace wav files for sounds in game? |
| 17:12.59 | Shirik | Someone wrote an addon that does that |
| 17:13.33 | kaso | my opinion is no it isnt |
| 17:13.47 | kaso | because blizzard removed that functionality, then put it back, suggesting they dont mind |
| 17:14.12 | Shirik | just curious; I don't want the addon anyway but I saw it floating around there |
| 17:14.22 | Shirik | it doesn't involve modifying any mpqs or anything so I'd guess that it's ok |
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| 17:14.40 | kaso | I use FishPing, which does that, i wouldnt give it up for the world :> |
| 17:14.54 | Elkano | doesn't that fall under the "anything not UI is off limits"? |
| 17:15.49 | zenzelezz | I think I heard about that sometime, that "bare" files overrode MPQed files |
| 17:16.04 | Shirik | yeah that's exactly what it's doing |
| 17:16.05 | zenzelezz | not sure if it was right |
| 17:16.11 | Shirik | it's put in the perfect place such that it's overriding the mpq file |
| 17:16.18 | kaso | Perhaps Elkano, but the fact that they havent disabled sounds, when they have done for textures and everything else suggests to me they dont mind |
| 17:16.18 | Shirik | the filename and path is exactly the same |
| 17:17.08 | zenzelezz | allowing such functionality is an easy way to test files before re-MPQing stuff; although they could limit it to a debug build |
| 17:18.37 | kaso | This is wierd, my patch of dead pixels on my monitor is slowly changing shape. |
| 17:18.48 | kaso | http://kasoo.net/img/imgs/yaydoggy.jpg -> http://kasoo.net/img/imgs/doggyno.jpg |
| 17:19.05 | kaso | i used to be a nice doggy with a tophat now its a scary zombie doggy |
| 17:19.49 | Shirik | it's coming for you! |
| 17:20.00 | Shirik | btw is that monitor still under warranty? |
| 17:20.04 | Shirik | That should be a valid claim |
| 17:20.17 | kaso | Nah it was off ebay >.< |
| 17:20.21 | Shirik | ah :( |
| 17:20.44 | Shirik | LCD? You could open it up and shave a layer of glass off |
| 17:20.47 | Shirik | usually that will fix it |
| 17:21.06 | kaso | That sounds scary |
| 17:21.09 | Shirik | heh |
| 17:21.12 | Shirik | don't try it :P |
| 17:21.17 | Shirik | it requires a lot of precision |
| 17:21.28 | Shirik | but usually that's how manufacturers fix it |
| 17:21.30 | kaso | i think i'd either electrocute myself or total my monitor |
| 17:21.34 | Shirik | replacing the whole thing is too expensive |
| 17:21.42 | kaso | I'll just cope with it |
| 17:21.50 | kaso | Im just mystfied how its changing shape |
| 17:21.55 | Shirik | yeah that is kind of amusing |
| 17:22.01 | kaso | infact i think a couple of dead pixels are now alive again |
| 17:22.13 | Shirik | I think your monitor is the first example of spontaneous AI |
| 17:24.29 | Shirik | ha... |
| 17:24.36 | Shirik | got this from my fantasy league just now... |
| 17:24.42 | Shirik | "You have chosen to participate in one of our live online drafts, which is set for Wed Mar 28 10:30pm EDT" |
| 17:24.53 | Shirik | about 2 days too late... |
| 17:27.24 | zenzelezz | 2 days is nothing |
| 17:27.40 | zenzelezz | I've had guildies in MMOs notice they got beta invites to expansions months after release |
| 17:30.30 | Shirik | haha |
| 17:30.31 | Shirik | nice |
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| 17:55.18 | jaxdahl | level 3 in LotRO |
| 17:55.22 | jaxdahl | looks good so far |
| 17:55.27 | jaxdahl | bit busy with work though |
| 18:11.29 | zenzelezz | my hunter seems to lack +hit stuff |
| 18:12.09 | Shirik | mine too actually |
| 18:12.25 | Shirik | but I don't find it to be too much of a problem |
| 18:13.03 | zenzelezz | I can't say I find it to be a problem, but I keep hearing that "hunters (should) never miss" |
| 18:13.21 | Shirik | blah |
| 18:13.24 | Shirik | don't pay attention to that |
| 18:13.32 | Shirik | long as you're hitting enough to keep up some good dps, you're fine |
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| 18:13.40 | Shirik | and that may mean sacrificing +hit for +crit |
| 18:14.02 | Shirik | if you miss 1/3 but crit 2/3, you're still going to be doing better than miss 0/3 and crit 0/3 |
| 18:14.43 | Corrodias | reliability is the question. does it matter if you go to fire a Distracting Shot and it misses? is it going to wipe a raid? |
| 18:15.00 | Corrodias | hunters don't have to worry about parry, dodge, and block, at least |
| 18:15.15 | Shirik | yeah I guess that's the tradeoff |
| 18:15.21 | Corrodias | i find that as a tank i hate those words |
| 18:15.49 | Corrodias | little irritates me more than to have a mob avoid a mangle and a lacerate |
| 18:16.07 | zenzelezz | Your Taunt was resisted. Your Sunder Armor missed. Your Sunder Armor was parried. Your Sunder Armor was dodged. |
| 18:16.08 | Corrodias | and there's nothing i can do to reduce the frequency of those except stun it |
| 18:16.09 | zenzelezz | rogue dies |
| 18:16.18 | Corrodias | and there was much rejoicing |
| 18:16.22 | Corrodias | take that, rogue >:o |
| 18:17.03 | zenzelezz | curse you |
| 18:17.10 | zenzelezz | now I have the "Brave Sir Robin" song in my head |
| 18:17.14 | nuoHep | you have. itscalled wepon skill |
| 18:17.58 | zenzelezz | generally if you're doing anything serious with a non-maxed (or near maxed) weapon skill you're asking for trouble |
| 18:18.55 | zenzelezz | unless you're talking about the +weapon skill items that no-one loves anymore |
| 18:18.55 | Corrodias | nuoHep: weapon skill calculations for determining your opponent's dodge/parry/block rate is capped at 5 times your level |
| 18:18.55 | Corrodias | so there's no point in +weapon skill if that's what you want |
| 18:18.55 | nuoHep | no |
| 18:18.55 | Corrodias | or is that crushing blows |
| 18:18.55 | nuoHep | itsnot "p |
| 18:18.58 | nuoHep | "p* |
| 18:19.08 | Corrodias | what are you doing? what are the p's for? |
| 18:19.19 | nuoHep | we ran some numbers with thatmace fromssc |
| 18:19.46 | Corrodias | anyway, i was thinking of crushing blows, my mistake |
| 18:19.49 | zenzelezz | ssc? |
| 18:19.54 | Corrodias | serpentshrine cavern |
| 18:19.55 | nuoHep | thats my wireless keyboard and the fact im russian |
| 18:20.18 | Corrodias | i don't know why it isn't SC |
| 18:20.25 | nuoHep | weapon skill is the best aggro generating stat for a warrior atm |
| 18:23.06 | Corrodias | uh oh, contradiction on wowwiki. "Attacks from the back are thought by many to prevent blocks and parries, but in fact they still occur against mobs but appear as MISS results instead." is not mentioned in the combat table article |
| 18:23.17 | Corrodias | or didn't last time i checked. i should check now. |
| 18:23.49 | zenzelezz | are they saying you can block an attack from behind you, but it will show up as "you were missed" in the log? |
| 18:24.23 | Corrodias | players can't, but mobs can, it says |
| 18:24.31 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 18:24.35 | Corrodias | "Players cannot dodge, parry, or block attacks from the back." |
| 18:24.38 | zenzelezz | well, mobs do a lot of things |
| 18:24.56 | zenzelezz | they can block without shields or even being humanoid |
| 18:25.03 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 18:25.08 | Corrodias | a worm can parry :/ |
| 18:25.41 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:25.45 | Shirik | did this happen to you? |
| 18:26.06 | Corrodias | as i recall, yes |
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| 18:28.10 | kaso | Anyone used Ventrilo in linux, i recall there is a little script to fix the push to talk thing |
| 18:28.15 | kaso | but i cant find it |
| 18:29.31 | Shirik | through wine? |
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| 18:29.46 | kaso | yah |
| 18:29.54 | kaso | i think ive found the fix |
| 18:30.03 | Shirik | nah, never tried that :/ wine hates my sound card |
| 18:30.08 | Corrodias | well, being on the wiki doesn't necessarily make it true |
| 18:30.40 | Shirik | I would attribute that to a lack of knowledge of statistics, Corrodias |
| 18:30.48 | Shirik | I doubt Blizzard would do such a hack like that |
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| 18:31.30 | Corrodias | one guy putting it on the wiki apparently without data to back it up? could be false |
| 18:31.40 | Shirik | exactly |
| 18:33.11 | Shadowedd | Check the talk pages, sometimes you'll find discussions about the information and how or why they came to that conculsion |
| 18:33.58 | Corrodias | i did. there's no discussion that i see |
| 18:34.07 | Shirik | what page is that on, Corrodias? |
| 18:34.09 | Corrodias | just one paragraph at the bottom, someone commenting on that change |
| 18:34.23 | Corrodias | here you can see the changes he made: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Formulas%3AWeapon_Skill&diff=349298&oldid=349241 |
| 18:34.53 | Corrodias | article: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Weapon_Skill |
| 18:35.05 | Corrodias | i don't know why he moved Block beneath Glancing Blow either |
| 18:35.05 | Shirik | looking at his contribs |
| 18:35.18 | Shirik | he seems to do a lot of this changing ideas without posting info |
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| 18:36.17 | Corrodias | but he has participated in discussions and reverted vandalism. i just wish i knew where he got this idea. |
| 18:36.39 | zenzelezz | if I was to make a pure speculation, I would imagine weapon skill wouldn't affect chance to be blocked; since block is more like resistance; partial |
| 18:36.59 | Shirik | so you would say hit would? |
| 18:37.14 | Shirik | or nothing? |
| 18:37.37 | Shadowedd | I'm fairly sure mobs can block from behind, so can players |
| 18:37.40 | Corrodias | here he's participating in quite a bit of discussion and seems to be suggesting he knows things nobody else does: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Attack_table&diff=prev&oldid=567373 |
| 18:37.55 | Shadowedd | You'd be better off asking the guys in #wowwiki i'd imagine about it :p |
| 18:37.55 | Shirik | that's exactly what I'm looking at Codayus |
| 18:37.56 | zenzelezz | I can not remember ever blocking attacks from behind |
| 18:37.58 | Shirik | Corrodias* |
| 18:40.55 | Corrodias | "It means I do not intend to provide the source of my proof, so I didn't think there was a reason to continue that debate." -- Beaza |
| 18:41.58 | Corrodias | also, "I don't have anything (web page etc) I can point you to, but I am sure it's right. Trust a stranger. :)" |
| 18:42.47 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 18:46.22 | Corrodias | well, i must BBL. |
| 18:46.27 | Shirik | take care |
| 18:49.07 | Tem | lol! |
| 18:49.12 | Tem | he's pretending to be gay |
| 18:49.22 | Tem | Shirik, I think I'm gonna like this one |
| 18:49.35 | Shirik | hmm? |
| 18:49.49 | Tem | Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien |
| 18:49.53 | Shirik | ahhh |
| 18:49.58 | Shirik | yeah :) I liked that |
| 18:50.08 | Tem | screwing with the minds of homophobes is always good fun |
| 18:52.23 | Shirik | o.o it worked |
| 18:53.09 | Shirik | I told the updater to try to update Cartographer_NoteShare, and it didn't let me because it's a part of Cartographer, and not independent |
| 18:54.55 | Industrial | anyone here done state mapping with buttons? |
| 18:55.12 | Industrial | i dont understand http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/20106448/FrameXML/SecureStateHeader.lua very well :( |
| 18:55.52 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/9763 |
| 18:55.59 | Industrial | I want those 12buttons to remap on stealth |
| 18:56.10 | Industrial | possibly getting it to work for druid too if i get it ;P |
| 18:56.16 | Industrial | and warrior etc |
| 18:56.59 | Industrial | correction: http://pastey.net/9764 |
| 18:57.37 | zenzelezz | it's back |
| 18:57.46 | zenzelezz | $N has defeated the hero of the Warmaul! |
| 18:57.51 | Shirik | haha |
| 18:58.19 | Industrial | *double puppy eyes* |
| 18:58.55 | Industrial | i need a 'FOR THE DUMBSHITS JUST COPY THIS AND DONT WHINE IF YOU COPIED IT WRONG IT WORKS SHITHEAD' |
| 18:59.07 | Industrial | :p |
| 18:59.21 | Tem | isn't that just a long version of RTFM? |
| 18:59.38 | Industrial | well no cause ill have something working and i can learn from poking at it |
| 18:59.48 | Industrial | something SMALL like 12 buttons that map to stealth mode and back |
| 18:59.57 | Shirik | I think it's the opposite of RTFM |
| 19:00.16 | Shirik | He doesn't want to read anything he wants to copy a working version and then poke it to see what happens |
| 19:00.22 | Tem | well, you need a statebutton attribute |
| 19:00.24 | Industrial | oh i read it. |
| 19:00.29 | Tem | and you need a statemap for stealth |
| 19:00.35 | Tem | and like... |
| 19:00.36 | Tem | um |
| 19:00.45 | Industrial | how why where :< |
| 19:00.56 | Shirik | personally I don't understand secure state headers well either, otherwise I'd help you :/ |
| 19:00.56 | Tem | oh, if it's for a rogue, you could just use stance 1 |
| 19:01.00 | Shirik | I know what they do, not so much how to use them |
| 19:01.18 | Tem | I was much more familliar with how they worked a month ago |
| 19:01.26 | Tem | give me a wee bit o time |
| 19:01.31 | Industrial | sure :D |
| 19:01.38 | Tem | I'm going to have to test my thoughts a bit |
| 19:01.49 | Tem | gonna play the "dick around til it works" game |
| 19:01.57 | Industrial | xD |
| 19:02.12 | Shirik | I just realized why Cartographer_Scribe hates the updater |
| 19:02.15 | Shirik | it's a RAR file >.> |
| 19:02.23 | Tem | RAR files are the devil |
| 19:02.34 | Shirik | I guess I have to write another process class for RARs |
| 19:03.17 | Tem | honestly, they're not that big of a deal. Can't you just encapsulate them so you don't have to think about it at all? |
| 19:03.30 | Shirik | actually it's pretty simple change, just one function to change |
| 19:03.51 | Shirik | .. I hope |
| 19:04.01 | Shirik | yeah I should probably encapsulate it, you're right |
| 19:04.07 | Shirik | would make it simpler in the future if more formats come out |
| 19:04.38 | Shirik | I think I'm more mad with myself that I didn't think ahead of time that there would be something more than ZIP Files |
| 19:04.45 | Tem | lol |
| 19:05.09 | Industrial | Tem; this 'ere: http://pastey.net/9765 creates tha' there http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/9586/wowscrnshot033007210337vz3.jpg |
| 19:05.33 | Industrial | bound and working and well etc |
| 19:05.40 | Tem | l2cropscreenshots |
| 19:05.48 | Industrial | ew. |
| 19:06.07 | Industrial | cropping a jpg = pewp |
| 19:08.10 | Industrial | Tem: I need to :SetAttribute('action', n+12) when self:StateChanged(newState) gets called? |
| 19:08.22 | Tem | no |
| 19:08.39 | Industrial | er that wouldnt change it back well you know what i mean |
| 19:08.54 | Shirik | So... |
| 19:09.01 | Shirik | LotRO rejected our Guild name |
| 19:09.11 | Shirik | The profanity filter blocked it |
| 19:09.18 | Industrial | what is it |
| 19:09.22 | Shirik | The Guardians |
| 19:09.28 | Industrial | :| |
| 19:09.35 | Industrial | well I so dont feel like lotr anymore |
| 19:09.36 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 19:09.39 | Shirik | I haven't figured it out either >< |
| 19:09.48 | Industrial | their elves are cooool tho |
| 19:09.54 | Industrial | (compared to wow) |
| 19:14.28 | Industrial | Tem: bump. http://www.ctgilles.net/images/pictars/bump.jpg |
| 19:17.16 | Cairenn | (for anyone that cares, I'm creating on Silverlode) |
| 19:17.47 | Industrial | dont have the money for 2 games :( |
| 19:18.00 | Industrial | well, more like i dont want to spend it |
| 19:18.16 | Shirik | Cairenn: Are you sure about that? |
| 19:18.27 | Shirik | We were inches away from creating there, and I guess we got in touch with a developer |
| 19:18.28 | Cairenn | positive |
| 19:18.31 | Shirik | and the dev recommended another server |
| 19:18.35 | Shirik | Any particular reason? |
| 19:18.36 | Cairenn | oh? |
| 19:18.42 | Shirik | Yeah, I don't know exactly why he did |
| 19:18.48 | Cairenn | because its the one we ended up choosing /shrug |
| 19:18.53 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:19.06 | Shirik | He said to move to "Elindilmir" but I don't know, I'm not even in it |
| 19:19.13 | Shirik | Just saw it in one of our guild news posts |
| 19:19.33 | Shirik | I'm sure they're all the same though |
| 19:19.45 | Shirik | Liking it? |
| 19:20.05 | Shirik | Everyone keeps telling me I should try it |
| 19:21.10 | Industrial | Cairenn: i strongly dislike the wow 3d artwork and style. how is lotro compared to wow in realism of buildings etc |
| 19:21.29 | Industrial | also, inevitable, can i change the interface? =D |
| 19:21.34 | Shirik | Supposedly |
| 19:21.38 | Industrial | :O! |
| 19:21.39 | Shirik | there's a lotrointerface.com |
| 19:21.42 | Industrial | *google* |
| 19:21.42 | Cairenn | Just got home, haven't had a chance to even log in yet |
| 19:21.49 | Industrial | oh lol |
| 19:22.00 | Shirik | don't you read wowinterface news posts?! jeesh |
| 19:22.05 | Cairenn | http://www.lotrointerface.com/index.php |
| 19:22.22 | Industrial | im bookmarked on the wodnloads page :X |
| 19:22.24 | wereHamster | ? I thought lotro will be released on april 6 |
| 19:22.31 | Shirik | It's in open beta now |
| 19:22.43 | Shirik | for preorders I think |
| 19:22.51 | Cairenn | no, open beta now for pre-order customers, open beta for all 6 apr, live 24 apr |
| 19:22.53 | wereHamster | .. so not reallt 'open' :( |
| 19:22.54 | zenzelezz | not very open if you need to order the game |
| 19:23.00 | Cairenn | no, open beta now for pre-order customers, open beta for all 6 apr, live 24 apr |
| 19:23.02 | wereHamster | ok.. thanks :) |
| 19:23.30 | Shirik | cool thing is |
| 19:23.36 | Shirik | supposedly beta accounts won't be wiped |
| 19:23.51 | Shirik | (note I'm just going off what I'm told) |
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| 19:26.02 | Cairenn | http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=103 |
| 19:26.11 | Cairenn | Pre-order FAQ |
| 19:26.22 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 19:26.27 | Shirik | they have a lifetime membership price? |
| 19:26.44 | Cairenn | yup |
| 19:27.04 | Shirik | just slightly over 1.5 years |
| 19:27.13 | Shirik | people might be wise to take advantage of that |
| 19:27.16 | Industrial | open beta for all 6 apr |
| 19:27.17 | Industrial | win. |
| 19:27.19 | Industrial | ill be there :D |
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| 19:32.13 | Industrial | Cairenn: looking at the UI walkthrough. I see they have taken a good look at wow. Im liking the IM chat tab :) |
| 19:32.54 | Tem | Industrial, http://pastey.net/9766 |
| 19:33.12 | Shirik | lol local button = CreateFrame("CheckButton","I Hate Code That Require Named Frames"..i,UIParent,"ActionBarButtonTemplate") |
| 19:33.35 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:34.11 | Industrial | Tem: lemme try :D |
| 19:34.25 | Tem | Industrial, there's a slight bug that I can't think of a clean solution for |
| 19:34.48 | Tem | it doesn't update the buttons' appearance until your first stealth/unstealth |
| 19:35.06 | Industrial | Tem: you win. :D |
| 19:35.17 | Industrial | thanks man |
| 19:35.20 | Tem | np |
| 19:37.19 | Tem | oh, actually, I've got a solution for it |
| 19:39.46 | Tem | maybe |
| 19:40.04 | jaxdahl | wow |
| 19:40.08 | jaxdahl | Illidan got reported pretty fast |
| 19:40.08 | jaxdahl | :( |
| 19:43.15 | Tem | no, nevermind |
| 19:43.21 | Tem | I don't have a clean solution for it |
| 19:43.34 | Tem | if I cared, I'd look in a bar mod to see how they solved it |
| 19:43.38 | Tem | but I don't |
| 19:44.12 | Tem | *sigh* now it's time to go to work |
| 19:44.42 | jaxdahl | yes, open beta chars won't be wiped |
| 19:44.48 | jaxdahl | capped at level 15, can carry over to live |
| 19:45.10 | zenzelezz | what's max level there? |
| 19:45.56 | Industrial | woot |
| 19:46.41 | Industrial | zenzelezz: 50, i think. slap me if im wrong and say YOU RONG YOU NO GOOD |
| 19:47.06 | Industrial | no wait, dont :P |
| 19:52.19 | jaxdahl | it's 50 |
| 19:52.31 | jaxdahl | you can play level 50 monster players at level 10 |
| 19:52.32 | Shirik | Java has no API for handling RAR files |
| 19:52.46 | Shirik | so I'm going to have to either read it binary and do it manually, or not support them :/ |
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| 19:57.05 | Tem|Work | Shirik, look for a third party lib imo |
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| 19:57.15 | Shirik | I've been on google for 30 minutes, really, looking for one |
| 19:58.55 | Tem|Work | is, perhaps, your google-fu weak? |
| 19:59.10 | Shirik | >< |
| 19:59.21 | Shirik | the only things I've found are things like this: http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t146303-rar-files.html |
| 20:00.54 | Shirik | take care |
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| 20:04.49 | kneeki|atwork | Hey all |
| 20:04.54 | Shirik | morning |
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| 20:14.04 | Calliee | Anyone know of any way to get someone's IP info from within the game? |
| 20:14.15 | kneeki|atwork | Not possible |
| 20:14.21 | Shirik | (1) not possible (2) why would you want to? |
| 20:14.43 | Calliee | Guild is dealing with a hacker that stole the account of one of our officers and is refusing to log out |
| 20:14.59 | Shirik | A GM can get the IP |
| 20:15.01 | Calliee | particular officer is out of contact for the weekend |
| 20:15.02 | Shirik | obviously not tell you |
| 20:15.05 | kneeki|atwork | Have your guildie login and change the password |
| 20:15.27 | kneeki|atwork | petition a GM. However, the account may be banned for sharing info |
| 20:15.38 | kneeki|atwork | (I lost an account that way FYI) |
| 20:15.54 | Shirik | Were you really sharing info? |
| 20:15.58 | kneeki|atwork | Newp |
| 20:16.02 | Shirik | Hm, that sucks |
| 20:16.11 | kneeki|atwork | Yeah, lost a 60 Shaman and Warlock. |
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| 20:16.25 | kneeki|atwork | Not a huge deal however. Since I mod more than I play anyway ;) |
| 20:16.43 | Shirik | same ^^; |
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| 21:12.30 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairen1 |
| 21:12.32 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairen1 |
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| 21:13.35 | cladhaire | wb Cairenn |
| 21:13.38 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 21:13.39 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn and suddenly hugs Cairenn tightly |
| 21:13.40 | cladhaire | was that you on the spam around 3:00pm? |
| 21:13.43 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 21:13.45 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs JoshBorke |
| 21:13.45 | cladhaire | cause it was VERY quick :P |
| 21:13.52 | JoshBorke | oof |
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| 21:16.25 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: i like tomtom :-) |
| 21:16.39 | cladhaire | good =) |
| 21:16.50 | JoshBorke | not that i have it installed, but i think it's genius |
| 21:17.15 | cladhaire | lol |
| 21:17.18 | JoshBorke | what's the mod going to be called that pulls from wowhead? |
| 21:17.39 | cladhaire | ... you mean LightHeaded, which is already releaseD? |
| 21:17.40 | cladhaire | =) |
| 21:18.14 | Shirik | aiee! You didn't tell me T_T |
| 21:18.25 | cladhaire | i posted it here, and elsewhere. |
| 21:19.06 | JoshBorke | Shirik: it's ok, he didn't tell me either. he must not love us |
| 21:19.12 | Shirik | Yeah :( |
| 21:19.14 | cladhaire | i posted it everywhere.. |
| 21:19.19 | cladhaire | i can't personally invite you every time i write a mod |
| 21:19.19 | cladhaire | lol |
| 21:19.26 | JoshBorke | you CAN, and you WILL! |
| 21:19.29 | Guillotine | He told me. I must be special >.> |
| 21:19.35 | Guillotine | wait, nevermind. I just saw it |
| 21:19.35 | Shirik | See? You love him! |
| 21:19.48 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 21:57.16 | kneeki|atwork | <- bored |
| 21:58.18 | Tain | Prepare ship for ludicrous speed! |
| 21:58.40 | kneeki|atwork | I think I may watch some more Battlestar Galactica |
| 21:59.20 | zenzelezz | I got bored of Galactica a little over halfway through the first episode :-| |
| 21:59.27 | kneeki|atwork | lol |
| 21:59.34 | kneeki|atwork | some episodes are horribly slow |
| 21:59.38 | zenzelezz | couldn't stand that über-tomboy |
| 21:59.43 | kneeki|atwork | I'm on Season 3 now |
| 21:59.58 | kneeki|atwork | I can't stand watching Lost |
| 22:00.01 | Tain | I'd dive into Starbuck's wormhole. |
| 22:00.02 | kneeki|atwork | *cringe* |
| 22:00.08 | kneeki|atwork | rofl! |
| 22:00.33 | zenzelezz | you sure that's safe? Never know where you may end up |
| 22:00.51 | Tain | I'll take the chance, I'm adventurous. |
| 22:00.58 | kneeki|atwork | Everyone is so promiscious in the future... I cant wait |
| 22:01.05 | Calliee | .... |
| 22:01.10 | zenzelezz | kneeki |
| 22:01.14 | kneeki|atwork | lawl |
| 22:01.28 | zenzelezz | you've seen the shows from the 60s where they predicted technology and society around year 2000? |
| 22:02.00 | kneeki|atwork | not many |
| 22:02.01 | zenzelezz | future never turns out like anyone expects/hopes |
| 22:02.07 | kneeki|atwork | Well of course |
| 22:02.17 | kneeki|atwork | I highly doubt we will fight our robot slaves in the future |
| 22:02.29 | zenzelezz | correct |
| 22:02.33 | zenzelezz | we'll fight our robot overlords |
| 22:02.37 | kneeki|atwork | Haha |
| 22:02.41 | kneeki|atwork | true nuff! |
| 22:03.57 | Tain | I for one welcome our new robot overlords. |
| 22:03.59 | kneeki|atwork | I really like the special effects they put in Battlestar. Really good compared to even some movies |
| 22:04.15 | JoshBorke | tain: you would |
| 22:04.22 | zenzelezz | we don't know who struck first, us or them; but we know that it was us that scorched the sky |
| 22:04.27 | kneeki|atwork | rofl |
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| 22:05.18 | Tain | If the robots are like the ones in BSG I'll serve them. The're hot. |
| 22:05.36 | kneeki|atwork | Esp the 'skin jobs' as they call it |
| 22:05.41 | kneeki|atwork | it = them |
| 22:05.49 | Tain | Yes exactly. |
| 22:06.04 | Calliee | erm, non of the guys are that good looking.... |
| 22:06.18 | kneeki|atwork | The admirals son is pretty good looking |
| 22:06.18 | Calliee | so that wouldn't fly in my case |
| 22:06.32 | kneeki|atwork | And the chief has the 5'oclock shadow thing down |
| 22:06.35 | Calliee | yeah, but he's fighting *against* the cylons ;) |
| 22:06.36 | Shirik | Tain: Haven't you ever seen Futurama? "Don't date robots"? |
| 22:06.37 | kneeki|atwork | If you like that |
| 22:06.40 | kneeki|atwork | lol true |
| 22:07.24 | kneeki|atwork | That's true... no good looking male robots are coming to mind |
| 22:07.26 | Tain | It's ok, I'll go to robot hell. |
| 22:07.29 | Calliee | yeah, I'd give anything to be in Cally's shoes ;) |
| 22:07.34 | kneeki|atwork | Haha! |
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| 22:08.05 | kneeki|atwork | Starbuck = not that hot imo |
| 22:08.21 | Tain | It's her attitude that I like. |
| 22:08.25 | Calliee | I can see where guys would like her |
| 22:08.34 | Tain | She's not strictly beautiful, but I do find her attractive. |
| 22:08.42 | kneeki|atwork | *nod* |
| 22:08.56 | kneeki|atwork | I don't like her 'in your face' attitude however. |
| 22:09.22 | Tain | Well, it is television and fantasy, so it's ok. |
| 22:09.31 | kneeki|atwork | Aye. =) |
| 22:09.36 | Calliee | hehe |
| 22:09.40 | Tain | It isn't as if I'm expecting to go out on a date with Katie Sackhoff. |
| 22:10.04 | Tain | But once I marry and divorce Drew Barrymore maybe she'll be next. |
| 22:10.09 | kneeki|atwork | rofl |
| 22:10.14 | Calliee | good luck with that... |
| 22:10.30 | kneeki|atwork | Send me pics, or I won't believe you. |
| 22:10.30 | kneeki|atwork | ;) |
| 22:10.42 | Tain | Well she doesn't know yet, but I'm sure it is just a matter of time. |
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| 22:10.59 | kneeki|atwork | You should start showing up at her house randomly. Expressing your feelings. |
| 22:11.05 | kneeki|atwork | Then she will understand. |
| 22:11.09 | kergoth | that always works |
| 22:11.13 | kneeki|atwork | *nod* |
| 22:11.23 | kneeki|atwork | I'll have your back too, from the other side of the street. |
| 22:13.21 | kneeki|atwork | I'm so glad I can watch this show w/o commercials |
| 22:13.21 | kneeki|atwork | I would get so frustrated |
| 22:13.35 | kneeki|atwork | So do I. Downloaded |
| 22:13.43 | Tain | I don't watch anything live. |
| 22:14.58 | Calliee | nor do I |
| 22:15.00 | Tain | Tivo Tivo Tivo I made you out of clay |
| 22:15.00 | kneeki|atwork | I wouldn't even have TV if it wern't for my wife. =P |
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| 22:15.01 | Tain | I do miss my ReplayTV though. Auto-skip commercials on playback was the bestests. |
| 22:15.05 | Tain | But no HD and no beer make Tain something something |
| 22:15.16 | kneeki|atwork | I wish I could get TV w/o commericals |
| 22:15.26 | kneeki|atwork | I would pay triple |
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| 22:23.21 | cladhaire | ReplayTV was da bomb |
| 22:24.58 | Shirik | ReplayTV? |
| 22:25.19 | Shirik | purl, poke Cairenn |
| 22:25.30 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn, pokes Cairenn repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 22:25.31 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:25.33 | Shirik | not waht I meant! |
| 22:25.47 | JoshBorke | WAY TO GO! |
| 22:26.18 | kneeki|atwork | rofl |
| 22:26.25 | JoshBorke | purl, slap Shirik |
| 22:26.28 | purl | ACTION slaps Shirik, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:27.20 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:29.11 | Tain | cladhaire I just couldn't deal with non-HD anymore, and the SVideo as the best output was killing me. |
| 22:29.15 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 22:29.23 | Shirik | so, what's ReplayTV? |
| 22:29.41 | Calliee | aking to tivo |
| 22:29.44 | Shirik | ah |
| 22:29.47 | Calliee | *akin |
| 22:29.49 | Tain | ReplayTV was anohter digital video recorder product with much better features than Tivo. |
| 22:30.07 | Tain | But they went under. |
| 22:30.11 | Calliee | I use the HD-DVR from my cable company |
| 22:30.27 | Shirik | they were better but went under? |
| 22:30.31 | ZealotOnAStick | As do I, with Comcast, but the software they stick on these Motorola 6412 boxes bites as. |
| 22:30.50 | Calliee | they were better, but TiVo had name recognition |
| 22:30.51 | Tain | Tivo had the more recognizable name. ReplayTV didn't gain enough marketshare. |
| 22:30.54 | ZealotOnAStick | SUpposedly they've got a deal with Tivo, and they're brewing them a custom ComcasTivo solution . . . |
| 22:31.04 | ZealotOnAStick | but they've been saying "Soon" for months. |
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| 22:31.15 | Tain | There are still ReplayTV units out there, plenty of them. People buy them up on ebay. |
| 22:31.35 | ZealotOnAStick | I wish we could 1) put up a digital dish here (can't due to condo rules) and 2 get Verizon FiOS here. |
| 22:31.39 | Tain | If it weren't for HDTV I'd still be running mine. Just automatically skipping commercials while playing back something was so awesome. |
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| 22:31.47 | Tain | You didn't have to hit a single button, ,it skipped the commercials for you. |
| 22:32.32 | cladhaire | it roxxored. |
| 22:32.43 | Tain | And trivial to copy recorded things off to your PC. You can do it with Tivo, but it was a matter of pressing a button with Replay |
| 22:33.03 | Tain | I used to burn DVDs to send to my brother in Alaska before he was able to get satellite TV. |
| 22:33.33 | Shirik | that's nice |
| 22:34.13 | Tain | But, that's the way the ball bounces on the crumbling cookie or something. |
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| 22:38.19 | Shirik | wb Cairenn |
| 22:38.19 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 22:38.25 | Shadowedd | So it's not possible to basically hook a Blizzard key binding or figure out when a specific one is fired? |
| 22:38.57 | Shadowedd | Fairly sure it's not easly possible at least |
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| 22:40.27 | Shirik | "hook a blizzard key binding" |
| 22:40.30 | Shirik | what do you mean? |
| 22:41.11 | Shadowedd | Eh, just need a way to figure out when a specific blizzard key binding is ran |
| 22:41.21 | Shirik | I mean |
| 22:41.27 | Shirik | what do you mean by "blizzard key binding" -- a function? |
| 22:41.34 | Shirik | specifically a function that is called when you push a button? |
| 22:42.03 | Shadowedd | As in, a key binding that Blizzard has defined in FrameXML/Bindings.xml |
| 22:43.32 | Shirik | got it |
| 22:45.29 | Shirik | so like, let's say you have "MOVEFORWARD" |
| 22:45.32 | Shirik | you want to figure out when that's called |
| 22:45.38 | Shadowedd | correct |
| 22:46.08 | Shadowedd | And hooking MoveForwardStart or MoveForwardStop wouldn't work, which is the main issue |
| 22:46.50 | Shirik | It won't work for what you're looking to do, or it won't work in any case? |
| 22:47.13 | Shirik | (Sorry I'm asking a lot of questions I'm just trying to figure out exactly what you're trying to do) |
| 22:47.43 | JoshBorke | not sure you can |
| 22:47.59 | Shadowedd | sec let me pastey |
| 22:49.26 | Shadowedd | It's to add status messages to name plate key bindings when players press them, but Blizzard does it like this http://wowi.pastey.net/9794 which means hooking the show/hide functions for name plates is a pain and not exactly accurate, currently i'm just hooking the show/hide methods and saying when they're called, but i'd rather change it to something less confusing like "Friendly name plates are now shown" or "All name plates are now shown" |
| 22:49.39 | Shadowedd | i'm pretty sure theres no way to do it, but was checking for i gave up |
| 22:50.10 | Tain | It's mind bottling. |
| 22:50.21 | kneeki|atwork | omfg |
| 22:50.31 | JoshBorke | why would you bottle a mind? that's just sick tain |
| 22:50.36 | kneeki|atwork | once again, i'm glad I can watch episdoes w/o any breaks between |
| 22:50.51 | kneeki|atwork | if I had to wait a week between the last episode and the next, I'd be so upset |
| 22:51.27 | Shirik | Shadowedd: This might be a bit ugly but |
| 22:51.45 | Shirik | They aren't secure frames. As such, you don't need to be in a secure execution environment |
| 22:51.54 | Shirik | What about binding the key V to a function which runs that binding? |
| 22:52.11 | Shirik | (as well as doing what you want to do) |
| 22:52.26 | Shadowedd | Pretty sure that then shows the name plates to be unbound in the binding menu doesn't it? |
| 22:52.27 | kergoth | better make sure v is still being used for that. i bind mine to something else. heh |
| 22:53.12 | Shadowedd | Haven't played with the binding functions much though, so i'm not sure. |
| 22:53.36 | Shirik | I... think it might be |
| 22:53.38 | Shirik | I'm not sure about that |
| 22:56.59 | Shadowedd | SetOverrideBindingClick doesn't change something to unbound, so i'll just go with something like that. |
| 22:57.05 | Shadowedd | thanks |
| 22:57.12 | Shirik | haven't played with that |
| 22:57.13 | Shirik | good luck |
| 22:57.17 | Shadowedd | i haven't either! |
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| 23:07.51 | JoshBorke | ~logs |
| 23:07.52 | purl | rumour has it, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 23:08.39 | JoshBorke | Cairenn: you here? |
| 23:11.35 | Esamynn | JoshBorke: she's *always* here, muahahahahahahahaha! |
| 23:11.49 | JoshBorke | nvm, found the link |
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| 23:20.52 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/20/food-on-the-flying-mount-wing/ |
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| 23:41.26 | batrick | ok guys... tough question... I got this BM_Interpret() function... when I have Msg= "function a() return true end;" and then I call BM_Interpret() again with msg="a()", ret1 doesn't equal true |
| 23:41.30 | batrick | anyone see what's going on :( |
| 23:42.00 | batrick | ooo |
| 23:42.04 | Shirik | ret1? |
| 23:42.05 | batrick | http://wowi.pastey.net/9803 |
| 23:42.07 | batrick | whoops |
| 23:42.07 | batrick | lol |
| 23:42.34 | Shirik | ret1 shouldn't be true |
| 23:42.51 | batrick | why not? |
| 23:43.18 | Shirik | I'm double-checking what I say before I say it, one second |
| 23:43.25 | batrick | ok |
| 23:43.26 | Shirik | wtb cide :( |
| 23:43.44 | Legorol | batrick: the thing is, myPackage is an upvalue of BM_Interpret |
| 23:43.57 | JoshBorke | down value! |
| 23:44.05 | Legorol | so every call to BM_Interpret is going to use the same one table |
| 23:44.05 | JoshBorke | hi Legorol :-) |
| 23:44.09 | Legorol | hi |
| 23:44.24 | Legorol | so if one Msg has code that defines some function or variable, it gets added to myPackage |
| 23:44.26 | batrick | i'm not familiar with what an upvalue is |
| 23:44.31 | Legorol | ok |
| 23:44.35 | Legorol | i will make it more basic :-) |
| 23:44.41 | batrick | :) |
| 23:44.44 | Legorol | you have defined a myPackage table |
| 23:45.00 | Legorol | every time you execute some code in Msg, they get to see that table as the global environment, right? |
| 23:45.09 | batrick | yes |
| 23:45.27 | Legorol | ok, so |
| 23:45.30 | Legorol | hmmm wait |
| 23:45.34 | Legorol | you are saying ret1 is NOT true? |
| 23:45.41 | batrick | ret1 is nil |
| 23:45.51 | batrick | but |
| 23:45.55 | batrick | retOk is true |
| 23:45.57 | Legorol | ah ok i see what you mean, that's strange indeed |
| 23:46.13 | Legorol | i misread you, i thought you said ret1 is true |
| 23:46.18 | Legorol | ok lemme think more then :D |
| 23:46.23 | batrick | kk :) |
| 23:47.00 | Shirik | have a feeling I know what it is, but gonna test it first :P |
| 23:47.34 | batrick | i tried changing my environment in the function to myPackage, but that didn't fix anything |
| 23:48.58 | Legorol | yeah i have an idea too, going to check |
| 23:49.20 | zenzelezz | I also have an idea |
| 23:49.25 | batrick | lol |
| 23:49.25 | zenzelezz | but it has nothing to do with this conversation |
| 23:50.30 | Legorol | batrick: ok the problem is that the second msg should be Msg="return a()", not Msg="a()" |
| 23:50.49 | Legorol | the string you are passing to loadstring is considered to be the body of a function |
| 23:50.51 | batrick | why wouldn't a() work? |
| 23:51.10 | batrick | but I'm executing the function |
| 23:51.10 | Shirik | ah crap |
| 23:51.10 | Legorol | essentially imagine loadstring as something that takes your string, |
| 23:51.10 | Shirik | that's right |
| 23:51.10 | Shirik | no, batrick, you're not |
| 23:51.14 | Shirik | what you're doing is executing this: |
| 23:51.15 | batrick | wouldn't that create the global function in the environment? |
| 23:51.18 | Legorol | and it puts "function something()" before it and "end" after it |
| 23:51.21 | Shirik | a = function() return true; end |
| 23:51.26 | Shirik | which sets a to something |
| 23:51.27 | Shirik | nothing more |
| 23:51.29 | Legorol | batrick: the first message is fine |
| 23:51.35 | Legorol | it's the second message that's wrong |
| 23:51.39 | Legorol | ok let me give you an example: |
| 23:51.49 | Legorol | f = loadstring("a=3") |
| 23:51.53 | Legorol | is equivalent to: |
| 23:51.55 | batrick | i understand how loadstring is working |
| 23:51.57 | batrick | heh |
| 23:52.00 | Legorol | f = function() a=3 end |
| 23:52.18 | Legorol | so consider your 2nd message |
| 23:52.23 | Legorol | what you are doing is this: |
| 23:52.28 | Legorol | f = loadstring("a()") |
| 23:52.31 | Legorol | which is equivalent to |
| 23:52.34 | Legorol | f = function() a() end |
| 23:52.44 | Shirik | Which has no return value |
| 23:52.50 | Shirik | Thus ret1 is nil |
| 23:52.51 | Legorol | f() doesn't have any return values |
| 23:52.54 | Legorol | exactly |
| 23:53.05 | Legorol | what you want to achieve is this: |
| 23:53.09 | Legorol | f = function() return a() end |
| 23:53.17 | Legorol | which translates to this: |
| 23:53.21 | Legorol | f = loadstring("return a()") |
| 23:53.30 | Legorol | makes sense? |
| 23:53.56 | Shirik | man |
| 23:54.15 | batrick | ah |
| 23:54.15 | batrick | ok that i see it now |
| 23:54.15 | batrick | thanks :D |
| 23:54.16 | Shirik | and I was searching deep into the code for some duplicate environment >< |
| 23:54.16 | batrick | yup |
| 23:54.16 | batrick | thanks for the help |
| 23:54.20 | Shirik | wow spam |
| 23:54.33 | Shirik | good luck ^^; |
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| 23:56.20 | Legorol | batrick: btw, the code snippet is pretty neat, i presume the idea of using myPackage and setfenv is to isolate the loaded code so that it can't contaminate the real global environment |
| 23:56.33 | Shirik | Yeah I was saying the same thing to myself |
| 23:56.39 | Legorol | unfortunately, the way it's written, it's not entirely secure |
| 23:56.58 | Legorol | if someone wanted to be malicious (as opposed to just a careless programmer), you can still get to the global environment |
| 23:57.10 | Legorol | so depending on what's your intention with it, you might want to watch out for that |
