| 00:00.50 | TC_Working | it's not good enough |
| 00:00.50 | TC_Working | that or i suck at borwsing help |
| 00:00.50 | TC_Working | browsing* |
| 00:00.50 | Corrodias | some of us are thinking of doing a heroic instance tonight |
| 00:00.50 | Corrodias | any suggestions? |
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| 00:00.51 | Corrodias | one guy wants to do OHB because he can Root people when we're outside, but neither of us need any items or rep from there so i'm not so interested |
| 00:01.52 | Corrodias | that's not available in heroic mode |
| 00:02.53 | TC_Working | interesting "All items and gold you gain in Outland during the trial period are yours to keep." |
| 00:03.18 | TC_Working | "And you can keep all items and skill advancements made in this profession after the trial expires, on any character that has trained it." |
| 00:03.23 | Corrodias | they don't make you give up everything you got during the free trial |
| 00:03.25 | TC_Working | Jewlcrafting* |
| 00:03.32 | Corrodias | but you can't trade items unless you pay for the account |
| 00:03.40 | TC_Working | except new chars |
| 00:05.42 | raevanmorlock | Any idea what it means when my cable box stops working and just displays "br.07"? |
| 00:05.58 | TC_Working | thats leet speak for BROKE |
| 00:06.06 | TC_Working | j/k |
| 00:06.10 | Corrodias | is the underbog truly the "hardest" of the heroics? |
| 00:06.30 | raevanmorlock | only if he hits you |
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| 00:09.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still would love to know why teron gorefiend looks like he does in the model files :O |
| 00:09.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | he looks vaguely night elfy and has wings :O |
| 00:10.53 | raevanmorlock | Do you think shapeshifting hurts? |
| 00:11.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 00:11.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on if they break heart of the wild or not |
| 00:11.40 | raevanmorlock | I mean in real life |
| 00:11.55 | Juido | can i delete values form table without to use the position like table.remove(table [, pos]) |
| 00:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, from my vast knowledge of animorphs, it doesn't, but it makes a sickening bone crunching noise |
| 00:12.12 | Juido | mabe by use the value itself ? |
| 00:12.23 | raevanmorlock | table[pos] = nil ? |
| 00:12.58 | Juido | you mean to replace the value with nil ? |
| 00:13.21 | raevanmorlock | I'm not really sure what you're asking |
| 00:13.41 | raevanmorlock | but table[pos] = nil would delete that value |
| 00:13.55 | Juido | if i have a table like this: table = {"arg1", "arg2","arg3","arg_n"}, what is the easiest way to delete "arg2" ? |
| 00:14.28 | raevanmorlock | >>> t = {} for i = 1, 10 do t[i] = i end print(#t) t[4] = nil print(#t) |
| 00:14.29 | Cide | raevanmorlock: 10, 10 |
| 00:14.44 | raevanmorlock | iiiiinteresting |
| 00:15.31 | raevanmorlock | Juido: Do you want to delete it so that it looks like table = { "arg1", "arg3", "arg4", ... } ? |
| 00:15.55 | Shadowed | Kaso: Did you ever try and see if the quest icon above NPCs heads was accessable? I assume it isn't though |
| 00:16.00 | Juido | yes cause i dont know the pos of !arg2" it could also be like table = {"arg1", "arg3","arg2","arg_n"} |
| 00:16.56 | raevanmorlock | oooh you want to delete some string from the table |
| 00:17.02 | Juido | yes |
| 00:17.30 | Juido | i have a table full on names, and i want to remove "John", but i dont now the pos of "john" |
| 00:17.43 | Juido | know* |
| 00:19.00 | Juido | maybe table.remove(table["John"]) ?? |
| 00:19.22 | Cide | table["John"] = nil |
| 00:20.03 | raevanmorlock | Cide: But what he was showing first would have it like table[3] = "John" |
| 00:20.06 | Juido | so it wont be table = { "Jim", nil, "John",...} ? |
| 00:20.28 | Cide | ok |
| 00:20.29 | Cide | Juido |
| 00:20.33 | Juido | i mean table = { "Jim", nil, "Jan",...} ? |
| 00:20.40 | Cide | did you read the chapter in PiL about tables that pastamancer linked you? |
| 00:20.57 | Juido | yes, but difficult to understand |
| 00:21.08 | Cide | then you should start with simpler stuff first |
| 00:21.11 | Juido | all i fond was to remove items by position |
| 00:21.15 | Juido | found* |
| 00:21.31 | Cide | if the entry has a numerical index |
| 00:21.35 | Cide | you have to remove it numerically |
| 00:21.41 | Cide | if you only know the value, you have to find the index |
| 00:22.05 | Cide | for key, value in pairs(table) do if ( value == "John" ) then tremove(table, key); end end |
| 00:23.41 | Juido | can i do a trick like table = { Jim = "Jim", John = "John", James = "James", ...} and then table.remove(table[John]) ? |
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| 00:24.04 | Cide | ... |
| 00:24.06 | Cide | no. |
| 00:24.25 | Cide | read what I just said. |
| 00:24.34 | Cide | and go read up some more on the lua language before you have us teach it to you |
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| 00:25.09 | Juido | sure give me a german manual and i will read it :) |
| 00:25.44 | Cide | if you can't read english you're gonna have a hard time understanding anything in here anyway |
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| 00:26.34 | Juido | i just thought that a string could also be a key |
| 00:26.45 | Cide | it can be, but it doesn't substitute a numerical index |
| 00:26.48 | Cide | say you have |
| 00:27.00 | Cide | table = { "John", "John", "John", "John" } |
| 00:27.09 | Cide | and you do table.remove(table["John"]) |
| 00:27.10 | Karrion | Juido: https://www.opensourcepress.de/index.php?26&backPID=15&tt_products=87 |
| 00:27.12 | Cide | which one would it remove? |
| 00:27.20 | Cide | you have to do it by its index |
| 00:27.30 | Juido | i see |
| 00:27.58 | raevanmorlock | table[0] = "John" is not the same element as table["John"] |
| 00:29.16 | raevanmorlock | doopy doopy doo Inspector Gadget doopy doopy doo.. doo-hoo! |
| 00:29.26 | Juido | but if i have a table like your example and use "for key, value in pairs(table) do if ( value == "John" ) then tremove(table, key); end end", wont it delete all Johns too ? |
| 00:31.52 | raevanmorlock | it'll delete every John in the table.. if you want it to only delete the first instance then add a break statement within the IF |
| 00:33.01 | Juido | k thx |
| 00:34.38 | raevanmorlock | You're welcome |
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| 00:37.29 | leethal | is it possible to make Frame type frames dynamic height? Adjusting it's own height based on it's contents? |
| 00:38.46 | leethal | do I have to compute the height of it's contents perhaps? |
| 00:38.51 | leethal | <== has no clue |
| 00:38.59 | raevanmorlock | you could compute teh height.. or you could set an anchor |
| 00:39.28 | leethal | anchor? never heard of that |
| 00:39.39 | raevanmorlock | The :SetPoint() function |
| 00:40.04 | leethal | hmmm.. how is that related to height? |
| 00:40.32 | raevanmorlock | It's hard to explain without an example |
| 00:41.02 | leethal | I can post all the lua in a second |
| 00:41.08 | leethal | just need to fix some bugs before I commit |
| 00:44.22 | leethal | the code is not very readable though =P |
| 00:44.30 | leethal | http://tankalert.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ |
| 00:44.36 | leethal | I'll post a screenshot too |
| 00:49.03 | Kaso | Shadowed not sure if you're here, but im 99% thats a 3d model in the game world rather than anything we can get |
| 00:49.42 | leethal | http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4173/paladinea3.jpg and http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7382/warrioryy7.jpg |
| 00:50.04 | leethal | as you can see, it looks nice with all the warrior abilities, but as paladins has just one spell in the list, it looks kinda silly |
| 00:50.25 | leethal | so, I guess I can set the height static based on the class, but I thought I'd figure out how to do it dynamically |
| 00:51.28 | raevanmorlock | Are you creating the object dynamically? |
| 00:51.58 | raevanmorlock | objects* |
| 00:52.14 | leethal | raevanmorlock: they are based on a table I made |
| 00:52.30 | leethal | the MeatShield:BuildAbilityTable() in http://tankalert.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/meatshield.lua |
| 00:52.52 | leethal | then I loop though that table and create the frames based on that |
| 00:53.40 | raevanmorlock | where do you create the frames at? |
| 00:54.12 | leethal | inside the rather lengthy and unoptimized Gui:CreatePageGeneral(incoming_frame) in http://tankalert.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/meatshield_gui.lua |
| 00:57.53 | raevanmorlock | alright.. well.. something like this should work: FrameToStretch:SetPoint("BOTTOM", getglobal(main_frame.."DropDownFor"..status..#abilities), "BOTTOM", 0, yoffset) |
| 00:58.49 | raevanmorlock | Hopefully that won't create a circular reference |
| 00:59.02 | leethal | hmm |
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| 01:03.22 | raevanmorlock | is that working? |
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| 01:04.03 | leethal | didn't get as far as trying yet, silly bugs occured |
| 01:04.08 | leethal | I wrote it down though, thanks =) |
| 01:07.41 | raevanmorlock | well, if it does make a circular reference... the height would be fairly easy to do too... bottomobj = getglobal(main_frame.."DropDownFor"..status..#abilities); main_frame:SetHeight(bottomobj:GetTop() + bottomobj:GetHeight() + closebutton:GetHeight() + extraspace) .. and then you migth need to subtract main_frame:GetTop() -- I'm not sure if GetTop() uses the top coord relative to the parent or the screen |
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| 01:08.34 | leethal | ah, nice |
| 01:14.56 | raevanmorlock | wb Shirik |
| 01:15.04 | Shirik | rawr |
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| 01:21.10 | Shadowed | Kaso: Yeah thats what I figured, oh well |
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| 01:24.15 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:24.23 | Shirik | 21:08:26 ‹raevanmorlock› well, if it does make a circular reference... the height would be fairly easy to do too... bottomobj = getglobal(main_frame.."DropDownFor"..status..#abilities); |
| 01:24.28 | Shirik | that is an incredibly ugly variable name >< |
| 01:25.05 | leethal | that's my variable name |
| 01:25.22 | leethal | MeatShielfFrameDropDownForraid1, for instance |
| 01:29.45 | Shirik | but how you do it is your own perogative |
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| 01:39.53 | Cairenn | oh lord - tragedy on top of tragedy :( http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200704/200704180028.html |
| 01:39.58 | Cairenn | "Meanwhile, the father of Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung-hui reportedly committed suicide. Radio Korea, a broadcaster for Korean expatriates in Los Angeles, said rumors spread in Virginia’s Korean community that the killer’s father slashed a main artery with a knife after learning that his son was identified as the gunman in the shooting massacre. The shooter’s mother also tried to kill herself but failed and is in critical condit |
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| 01:54.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | sigh, at times the sense of honor in some cultures makes me sad |
| 01:54.54 | cogwheel|laptop | honor's overrated... |
| 01:54.59 | cogwheel|laptop | :P |
| 01:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | sho'nuff |
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| 02:15.51 | ckknight | my youtube video on taxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtwZhhEjFaY |
| 02:23.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, the lone star state? |
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| 02:24.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man, i said that before clicking the video, the picture of GWB was perfect |
| 02:24.35 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 02:24.44 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: you know I have like 3 other videos, right? |
| 02:24.57 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/southernjesse |
| 02:25.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that really you |
| 02:25.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | or your accent |
| 02:25.21 | ckknight | that's me |
| 02:25.52 | ckknight | I'm a bit further south than Texas in actuality |
| 02:25.57 | ckknight | (Hawaii) |
| 02:26.54 | ckknight | either way, I have a northern accent |
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| 02:27.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think i really have much of an accent |
| 02:27.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i've lived in georgia my whole life :O |
| 02:30.53 | ckknight | oh well |
| 02:31.47 | ckknight | the Taxes one really isn't as funny as my previous ones, like Global Warming |
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| 02:41.00 | JoshBorke | ~emulate JoshBorke |
| 02:41.14 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 02:41.48 | Cairenn | ~emulate cairenn |
| 02:41.50 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 02:42.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:42.45 | ckknight | ~emulate ckknight |
| 02:42.47 | purl | pimpness. |
| 02:42.52 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:42.55 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 02:44.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still have no idea what my emulation is |
| 02:44.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate Mr_Rabies |
| 02:44.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate Mr_Rabies2 |
| 02:44.34 | purl | BATS! Bats. BaTs? |
| 02:44.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | there we go |
| 02:44.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:44.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still have no damn idea what that means :x |
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| 03:27.31 | AnduinLothar | How do i add comments to an xml file? |
| 03:27.43 | AnduinLothar | <!-- --> doesn't parse |
| 03:28.00 | AnduinLothar | oh nm |
| 03:28.03 | AnduinLothar | typo |
| 03:29.23 | JoshBorke | notice the space ;-) |
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| 03:54.23 | Shirik | "Stick with Ace addons if you can" |
| 03:54.30 | Shirik | I am SO SICK of seeing that statement thrown around everywhere |
| 03:57.24 | raevanmorlock | I've never used an Ace addon |
| 03:58.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use whatever works |
| 03:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ace cosmos standalone, i use it all |
| 03:58.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i even use ct_mailmod |
| 03:59.59 | Shirik | There are some great Ace addons, I won't deny that |
| 04:00.14 | Shirik | but just because an addon's Ace doesn't make it any better in performance or memory management |
| 04:00.25 | Shirik | an addon is only as good as its author, no better |
| 04:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha that was fun |
| 04:01.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | mage/druid vs mage/druid in arena |
| 04:02.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | we won :D |
| 04:02.23 | Crache\__ | i was under the impression that stuff based on ace breaks less, for whatever reason |
| 04:02.26 | Shirik | you were the mage/druid? |
| 04:02.36 | Shirik | Crache\__: And why would it break less? |
| 04:02.52 | Shirik | Because it's coded correctly... |
| 04:02.53 | Crache\__ | last time i used anything cosmos was 2 years ago, and the shit required updating every time there was a patch practically |
| 04:02.54 | raevanmorlock | It's hammer-repellent |
| 04:03.02 | Shirik | It's not like Ace prevents typos |
| 04:03.25 | Cairenn | Cosmos 2 years ago is not the same as Cosmos today |
| 04:03.46 | Crache\__ | yeah, i can't compare it to today |
| 04:03.50 | raevanmorlock | Did you know Ace stands for Awfully Crappy Environment? |
| 04:04.00 | Shirik | Ace is actually pretty decent |
| 04:04.04 | Cairenn | guys, don't make me yell at you |
| 04:04.31 | Thrae | No no, ThraeFramework is the only library framework to use! |
| 04:04.42 | Shirik | Cairenn: I'm not defacing Ace; far from it. What I'm trying to make people understand is that Ace is not the solution to all problems |
| 04:04.46 | Cairenn | you know the rules of the channel, they haven't changed - no slander - opinions are fine, but keep it clean |
| 04:04.50 | Thrae | All others make babies cry! |
| 04:05.22 | Thrae | Now, who here uses growisofs? |
| 04:05.29 | Shirik | Authors know that, too; the Ace team knows that. Unfortunately, users don't. |
| 04:05.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear cide eats live puppies for breakfast |
| 04:05.36 | raevanmorlock | Only cry? My addons slaughter babies outright. |
| 04:05.48 | Crache\__ | it's probably that the workflow that you are sort of lead into by developing with ace2 may tend to help keep things organized, where developers that use other platforms or their own custom thing may make a mess a lot easier |
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| 04:07.01 | Cairenn | (11:59:41 PM) Shirik: an addon is only as good as its author, no better |
| 04:07.09 | Shirik | funny thing is |
| 04:07.13 | Shirik | I just said the same thing on the forums |
| 04:07.17 | Shirik | and this is what I get in response: |
| 04:07.24 | Shirik | "i really don't want to start, nor am i going to get into, a flame war over this statement, but frankly, while i certainly don't claim to be the sharpest knife in the drawer when it comes to programming languages and coding, you appear to be nearly completely clueless about what you are saying. |
| 04:07.39 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:07.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like people that assume more advanced console = more advanced graphics |
| 04:08.00 | Shadowed | Well since theres a library for like everything in Ace, technically they would break less |
| 04:08.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | just because the capability is there doesn't mean it's guaranteed |
| 04:09.37 | raevanmorlock | Every download of my addon guarantees less free space on your hard drive |
| 04:11.22 | raevanmorlock | Why do we do the right thing even when nobody is looking? |
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| 04:25.32 | raevanmorlock | What's crabcake? Is it crab..? Cake..? Some kind of jello-like substance? |
| 04:26.33 | Shirik | it's like |
| 04:26.38 | Shirik | a scoop of crab |
| 04:26.44 | Shirik | a scoop of crab meat |
| 04:26.47 | Shirik | is the best way I can describe it |
| 04:27.17 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_cake |
| 04:28.23 | Tem | no, it's not a scoop of crab meat |
| 04:28.24 | raevanmorlock | It's a patty of crabmeat |
| 04:28.24 | Shirik | I just know what it looks like :P |
| 04:28.24 | Shirik | I've never tasted it |
| 04:28.24 | Shirik | I think they're too ugly to try |
| 04:28.24 | Tem | they're fricking awesome down here |
| 04:28.24 | Shirik | Tem: I live in Virginia or Florida |
| 04:28.24 | Shirik | nothing tastes awesome |
| 04:28.24 | Shirik | except clam chowder |
| 04:28.29 | Tem | you just grossed Tem out |
| 04:28.46 | Tem | yay for the south |
| 04:28.55 | Shirik | Let's go do trading spaces? |
| 04:28.57 | raevanmorlock | I've never had crab, but that pic on wikipedia looks pretty good. |
| 04:29.14 | raevanmorlock | You should call it Trading Dishes |
| 04:29.24 | Tem | no thanks |
| 04:29.43 | Tem | I know what food above the line tastes like |
| 04:29.58 | raevanmorlock | What's wrong with hot pockets? |
| 04:30.00 | Tem | and I can't tolerate it without at least some red peper |
| 04:30.07 | Tem | s/peper/pepper/ |
| 04:30.09 | Thunder_Child | wuss |
| 04:30.17 | Tem | too bland |
| 04:30.28 | Tem | it's like eating cardboard |
| 04:30.38 | Thunder_Child | mmmm...cardboard |
| 04:30.57 | Shirik | Tem |
| 04:30.59 | Shirik | funny thing is |
| 04:31.03 | Shirik | I live right off the Chesapeake Bay |
| 04:31.09 | Shirik | and I STILL have never tasted one |
| 04:31.14 | raevanmorlock | Are you two neighbors? |
| 04:31.16 | Tem | and? |
| 04:31.22 | Shirik | that's where it traditionally comes from |
| 04:31.29 | Tem | is Chesapeake bay supposed to mean something to me? |
| 04:31.33 | Shirik | Yes |
| 04:31.35 | Shirik | I > You |
| 04:31.40 | Tem | hardly |
| 04:31.44 | raevanmorlock | But seriously.. carboard pellets are awesome! |
| 04:31.51 | Tem | just ask myth busters |
| 04:32.12 | Shirik | That would be the shortest episode ever |
| 04:32.19 | Shirik | "Myth: Tem > Shirik" |
| 04:32.22 | Shirik | "Busted" |
| 04:32.25 | Shirik | the end |
| 04:32.26 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 04:32.36 | Tem | Shirik, shall I begin to list the ways in which I > U? |
| 04:32.43 | Shirik | Well, according to Lua |
| 04:32.47 | Tem | or can I let FrameXML do the talking for me? |
| 04:32.47 | Shirik | that's a false statement |
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| 04:33.56 | Tem | but anyway, I was referring to the cardboard thing |
| 04:33.57 | raevanmorlock | >>? return I > U |
| 04:33.58 | Tem | no Cide, raevanmorlock |
| 04:34.00 | VoidRaider | howdy all :) |
| 04:34.02 | raevanmorlock | aw |
| 04:34.16 | Shirik | > tem = "Tem"; shirik="shirik"; return tem>shirik; |
| 04:34.16 | Shirik | false |
| 04:34.18 | Shirik | I win |
| 04:34.32 | Tem | they did the myth that "that cereal box has more nutritional content than the ceral inside it" |
| 04:34.38 | Shirik | haha |
| 04:34.40 | Shirik | I never heard that one |
| 04:34.47 | Tem | the myth was false, btw |
| 04:34.52 | Tem | but not by far |
| 04:35.06 | Shirik | that's... rather scary |
| 04:35.16 | raevanmorlock | I didn't like that myth though.. they treated having a high calorie content as a good thing |
| 04:35.23 | raevanmorlock | which is debatable |
| 04:35.27 | Shirik | my personal favorite is the one where they try to make a kid fly just by holding onto balloons |
| 04:35.42 | Tem | raevanmorlock, I wasn't particularly satisfied with how they tested that one either |
| 04:35.56 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: For me that's a good thing |
| 04:36.13 | Shirik | I probably live on something close to a 4000+ calorie diet |
| 04:36.17 | Tem | but my detractions have nothing to do with them going by calorie content |
| 04:36.27 | Tem | fatty fatty want some cake? |
| 04:36.34 | Shirik | As I've said before in this channel |
| 04:36.43 | raevanmorlock | Shirik is a toothpick |
| 04:36.44 | Shirik | I'm about 6'3" 130lb |
| 04:36.50 | Tem | that's bizare |
| 04:36.54 | Tem | +z |
| 04:37.02 | Tem | I'm 6"2 185 |
| 04:37.10 | raevanmorlock | I didn't know you ate over 4000 calories though.. that's nuts. I so wish I could do that. |
| 04:37.12 | Tem | s/6"2/6'2"/ |
| 04:37.27 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthyroidism |
| 04:37.34 | Shirik | see the first sentence under "signs and symptoms" |
| 04:37.43 | Tem | actually, I remember you telling us that |
| 04:37.50 | Tem | I think my comment was "I think I could break you" |
| 04:37.55 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:37.59 | raevanmorlock | lol sounds familar |
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| 04:38.38 | raevanmorlock | Are you flammable? |
| 04:38.48 | Shirik | ... huh? |
| 04:39.00 | raevanmorlock | It says you have an intolerance to heat |
| 04:39.07 | Shirik | lol... |
| 04:39.13 | Shirik | actually, that's the one thing that my doctors can't figure out |
| 04:39.25 | raevanmorlock | And an intolerance to both fatigue and hyperactivity |
| 04:39.29 | Shirik | I have a tendency to have an intolerance to cold, not heat. The other conditions I fit in perfectly well |
| 04:39.44 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: That's just a gramatically incorrect statement >< |
| 04:39.55 | Shirik | they meant intolerance to heat, and characterized by the following attributes |
| 04:40.05 | raevanmorlock | That's an awfully bizarre list of symptoms |
| 04:40.09 | raevanmorlock | oooh |
| 04:40.11 | Legorol | hm, just noticed Vindicator Aeus in the aldor bank on PTR |
| 04:40.14 | Legorol | has he always been there? |
| 04:40.29 | Shirik | how do you get intolerant to fatigue? |
| 04:40.39 | Shirik | You can't get tired? |
| 04:40.40 | raevanmorlock | You refused to be tired |
| 04:40.41 | Shirik | I wish... |
| 04:40.53 | raevanmorlock | How can you be tired and hyperactive? |
| 04:41.04 | raevanmorlock | Do you toss around in your sleep? |
| 04:41.17 | raevanmorlock | Throw things across the room, shout out obscenities.. that sorta thing. |
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| 04:43.26 | raevanmorlock | So like... if you eat 8000 calories a day, would you gain weight? |
| 04:44.13 | Cairenn | how can you be tired and hyperactive? ROFL, I take it you've never seen any smll children for any length of time, have you? |
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| 04:44.20 | Cairenn | small* |
| 04:44.28 | raevanmorlock | I try to avoid them when i can |
| 04:45.00 | Shirik | Cairenn: I don't know how to really answer that |
| 04:45.02 | Shirik | but it's true |
| 04:45.08 | Shirik | I can be very hyperactive at times |
| 04:45.13 | Shirik | but I'm also very tired |
| 04:45.13 | Cairenn | that was to raevanmorlock, not you |
| 04:45.17 | Shirik | ahh |
| 04:45.21 | Shirik | sorry |
| 04:45.22 | Cairenn | (12:40:08 AM) raevanmorlock: How can you be tired and hyperactive? |
| 04:45.25 | raevanmorlock | She was repeating my question.. which you ignored! |
| 04:45.33 | Shirik | That's because I was dealing with more important stuff |
| 04:45.36 | Shirik | which is not you! |
| 04:45.37 | Shirik | Owned. |
| 04:45.41 | raevanmorlock | Yeah... |
| 04:45.45 | Shirik | ~hug raevanmorlock |
| 04:46.01 | purl | ACTION hugs raevanmorlock |
| 04:46.01 | raevanmorlock | You win this one, my friend! |
| 04:46.01 | Shirik | purl? |
| 04:46.06 | raevanmorlock | purl has been really slow today |
| 04:46.23 | Thunder_Child | purl, go faster |
| 04:46.35 | Shirik | I love how purl responds to pings incorrectly |
| 04:46.40 | Shirik | 00:47:04 [CTCP: purl] PING |
| 04:46.40 | Shirik | 00:47:05 [CTCP 1176958024 reply from purl]: |
| 04:47.46 | subbawt | hehe |
| 04:47.58 | raevanmorlock | So, Shirik.... if you ate 8000 calories a day, would you gain weight? Or is there some sort of black hole in the pit of your belly that instantly eradicates all traces of food upon entry? |
| 04:48.21 | Cairenn | raevanmorlock: probably he wouldn't. I didn't |
| 04:48.55 | Cairenn | if he's like me, though, he probably could also all but starve himself, and not lose weight either |
| 04:49.01 | raevanmorlock | You have hyperthingymabobber syndrome too? |
| 04:49.26 | Cairenn | I have never actually tested positive for it, no, even though they've been testing me for it my entire life |
| 04:49.26 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: Cairenn's pretty much right |
| 04:49.42 | Shirik | I pretty much stay where I am |
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| 04:49.58 | Cairenn | the only way I've managed to put on weight is courtesy medications |
| 04:50.06 | Corrodias | heroic ramparts... couldn't quite handle the last boss |
| 04:50.22 | raevanmorlock | I stayed at 150 for like 3 years... but that's over now. Those were good days.. |
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| 04:50.32 | Corrodias | on the last attempt somebody got feared into fire. oh well. |
| 04:50.56 | Cairenn | I was 95 lbs from the time I was 16 until just a couple years ago |
| 04:51.01 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: Be happy though |
| 04:51.10 | Cairenn | the only time in my life I broke 100lbs was when I was pregnant |
| 04:51.12 | Shirik | At least you can pretty much tell your health condition as well |
| 04:51.39 | Shirik | Unlike me, for all I know, I could be seconds away from a heart attack; if I eat poorly, my visible health doesn't reflect it |
| 04:51.53 | Corrodias | i'm doing okay |
| 04:51.56 | Cairenn | I could gorge or I could starve, didn't matter, weight didn't move more than 3lbs one way or the other |
| 04:52.29 | Nom- | damn Cairenn ... you must be skinny as a rake :/ |
| 04:52.41 | Nom- | 45kg is hell light for an adult, even a chick :/ |
| 04:52.53 | raevanmorlock | ~slap Nom- |
| 04:53.05 | purl | ACTION slaps Nom-, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 04:53.05 | Shadowed | Could probably find the BlizzCon pictures somewhere |
| 04:53.05 | Shadowed | although I think she may have removed them after we found them |
| 04:53.05 | Cairenn | see statements about "on medication" and "last couple of years" |
| 04:53.07 | Shirik | she looks like her avatar ^^ |
| 04:53.11 | Cairenn | I did |
| 04:53.29 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:53.31 | Cairenn | hah! I wish! |
| 04:53.37 | Shirik | Maybe if I actually took my medication, I'd be a bit heavier too |
| 04:53.50 | Shadowed | Cairenn: If I alt tab out too much I die |
| 04:53.58 | Shadowed | so haven't read through everything yet :p |
| 04:53.58 | raevanmorlock | There were pictures of Cairenn at BlizzCon and I missed them? |
| 04:54.05 | Cairenn | Shadowed: :) |
| 04:54.18 | Shadowed | Alt tab out for 5 minutes, tab back in at 100 health with 5 mobs on me |
| 04:54.23 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: Go to BlizzCon and you can see her in person! |
| 04:54.25 | Shirik | And me! |
| 04:54.29 | Shirik | (Hopefully I shall be there) |
| 04:54.40 | Cairenn | I've no idea if I'll be there or not, I'm hoping I will be though |
| 04:54.51 | Shirik | ah, from your post I thought you had already gotten it worked out |
| 04:55.11 | raevanmorlock | I'm 5k in debt.. and that's not including school loans |
| 04:55.13 | Nom- | wtb flight to US for Blizzcon :P |
| 04:55.14 | Cairenn | no, not yet, was just seeing who all is hoping to go |
| 04:55.18 | Shirik | holy crap... |
| 04:55.25 | Shirik | today's my guild's 5 year anniversary ^^ |
| 04:55.29 | Shirik | just realized it |
| 04:55.32 | raevanmorlock | I don't think I'll be attending any cons anytime ever |
| 04:55.42 | Iriel | Did you get it a gift, or will it make you sleep on the couch tonight? |
| 04:55.50 | Cairenn | LOL |
| 04:56.01 | Shirik | Iriel |
| 04:56.07 | Shirik | always around to ruin my happy moments :( |
| 04:56.25 | Shirik | and yes I'll probably be sleeping on the couch tonight |
| 04:56.36 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 04:57.36 | Nom- | So anti-psychotics make you put on weight? :P |
| 04:57.38 | Nom- | j/k :D |
| 04:58.02 | Shirik | huh? |
| 04:58.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:58.21 | Shirik | that went over my head :( |
| 04:59.12 | raevanmorlock | Hey Cairenn, wherever did you find glow-in-the-dark Taismanian Devil boxer shorts? |
| 04:59.33 | Nom- | I wish I was like that tho... I just have to smell a doughnut and I put on a kilo :( |
| 04:59.36 | Cairenn | oh, that was a while ago - I think it had been Walmart |
| 04:59.55 | Nom- | brb going out to grab some caffeine to get me through the afternoon |
| 05:00.07 | Shirik | you go out and buy caffeine? |
| 05:00.13 | Shirik | like, pure caffeine? |
| 05:00.19 | VoidRaider | haha |
| 05:00.41 | Shirik | glow in the dark boxer shorts? |
| 05:00.45 | Shirik | I'd like to see those... |
| 05:01.01 | raevanmorlock | Would you like to see them on Cairenn's dad? |
| 05:01.45 | Shirik | so long as he is wearing all other components of clothing, I have no problem seeing them if they're on Cairenn's dad. I just want to see them |
| 05:02.06 | raevanmorlock | Well.. I don't have a pic of it in any event |
| 05:02.20 | raevanmorlock | What t-shirt? |
| 05:02.23 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:02.33 | Shirik | I thought you wanted it? |
| 05:02.39 | Cairenn | I still do |
| 05:02.42 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 05:02.50 | Shirik | Then why shouldn't we have bought it? |
| 05:02.58 | Shirik | Maybe I did buy one and I was saving it for when I find you at blizzcon! |
| 05:03.03 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 05:04.08 | raevanmorlock | You know if you show up without it now, she's going to smack you. |
| 05:04.25 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 05:04.35 | Thunder_Child | i'll have my camera ready |
| 05:04.53 | Cairenn | Shadowed: this the reference about the boxer shorts: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7966&highlight=anniversary |
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| 05:05.23 | JunkHead-Work | Morning |
| 05:05.27 | Cairenn | hi |
| 05:05.37 | JunkHead-Work | What's goin on? |
| 05:05.48 | Shirik | morning JunkHead-Work |
| 05:07.07 | raevanmorlock | The future of Southpark rides on one bet.. dun dun dunnnn |
| 05:07.34 | Shadowed | wow |
| 05:07.37 | Shadowed | I can't believe you did that Cairenn |
| 05:07.46 | raevanmorlock | you can't? |
| 05:08.02 | Shirik | I can |
| 05:08.04 | Shirik | very much so |
| 05:08.15 | Cairenn | hehehehe, it was great! |
| 05:08.27 | raevanmorlock | I'm kinda surprised it wasn't a glow-in-the-dark man-thong |
| 05:08.48 | Cairenn | okay, there are limits - I am NOT buying my dad a thong! ewwww |
| 05:08.49 | Shadowed | I'm sure there is |
| 05:08.57 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 05:09.00 | Shirik | On christmas eve, my family has a tradition |
| 05:09.18 | Shirik | exchange name presents, and the present is always a gag gift. It's the one present you open on the 24th, after you guess whom had your name |
| 05:09.35 | Cairenn | although my folks sure laughed when my hubby opened the one I'd gotten him as a gag one year ;) |
| 05:09.38 | Shirik | there's typically red lingerie involved, etc. |
| 05:09.51 | Shirik | I especially love the one present I gave my brother |
| 05:09.57 | Shirik | He's got a real sweet tooth |
| 05:10.01 | Shirik | so I got him this huge basket of candy |
| 05:10.06 | Shirik | unfortunately, the candy is all fish flavored |
| 05:10.07 | Cairenn | raevanmorlock: this t-shirt: http://www.cafepress.com/buy/bite/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_18778532/opt_/fpt_/c_360/ |
| 05:10.13 | Cairenn | ewwwww Shirik! |
| 05:10.15 | Shirik | Hahaha the look on his face was priceless when he ate the first |
| 05:10.47 | Shirik | christmas eve is always a day to remember in my family ^^ |
| 05:10.52 | Thunder_Child | GJ Shirik |
| 05:10.59 | raevanmorlock | nice one, Shirik |
| 05:11.09 | Shirik | it's also the one day of the year where both sides of my family actually get together for one event. We live too far apart to really do it any other time |
| 05:13.09 | raevanmorlock | Homer is so funny |
| 05:13.18 | Shirik | anyway, |
| 05:13.21 | Shirik | I think I best be going to sleep |
| 05:13.22 | Shirik | take care |
| 05:13.35 | Cairenn | night Shirik|zZz |
| 05:13.52 | raevanmorlock | Night night! |
| 05:14.37 | Cairenn | raevanmorlock: rest of the stuff about the t-shirt is here: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowi-lounge/20070417.html.gz (time stamp 00:34.22) |
| 05:16.10 | raevanmorlock | oh I remember you linking that shirt before |
| 05:16.34 | Shirik|zZz | I still think |
| 05:16.38 | Shirik|zZz | that's a great idea for a premium membership |
| 05:16.43 | Shirik|zZz | if you're still considering |
| 05:16.45 | Cairenn | not happening |
| 05:17.18 | raevanmorlock | Shirik|zZz: So basically... you want to pay Cairenn money in order to see a picture of her naked? Think about that... |
| 05:17.29 | Shirik|zZz | I don't have a problem with that |
| 05:17.31 | Shirik|zZz | I'm a guy |
| 05:17.40 | Shirik|zZz | and I never said naked |
| 05:17.43 | Shirik|zZz | I said in a t-shirt |
| 05:17.46 | Cairenn | who said anything about naked? |
| 05:17.51 | raevanmorlock | in only a t-shirt |
| 05:17.52 | Cairenn | I said it would have to be long enough |
| 05:17.55 | Shadowed | Cairenn found a way to get people to buy her t-shirts i see |
| 05:18.04 | Shirik|zZz | I actually never even made a comment about it being only the t-shirt |
| 05:18.13 | Shirik|zZz | I just said a different t-shirt each day |
| 05:18.17 | Cairenn | it was a joke guys, sheesh |
| 05:18.22 | Shirik|zZz | I know >< |
| 05:18.30 | Shirik|zZz | raevanmorlock's the one who took it to the next level! |
| 05:18.39 | raevanmorlock | I did not! |
| 05:18.40 | Shadowed | If we considered that, it would ruin the fun |
| 05:19.17 | Shadowed | "Even if she did get a pic of herself wearing only the shirt, we'd probably only get to see her pinky finger" |
| 05:19.30 | Shirik|zZz | hahaha |
| 05:19.30 | raevanmorlock | yup! |
| 05:19.31 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 05:20.15 | VoidRaider | Well you can't have it all, you know haha :D |
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| 05:32.31 | raevanmorlock | maybe you can't! |
| 05:33.50 | raevanmorlock | s//a/ |
| 05:34.20 | Shirik|zZz | ?? |
| 05:34.26 | Shirik|zZz | replace nothing with a? |
| 05:34.34 | raevanmorlock | lol I wanted to see what it'd do |
| 05:34.39 | raevanmorlock | Why aren't you in bed yet? |
| 05:34.49 | Shirik|zZz | I'm the male version of Cairenn |
| 05:34.55 | Shirik|zZz | I don't go to bed until 2 hours after I say I went to bed |
| 05:35.08 | raevanmorlock | You guys are strangely similar |
| 05:36.35 | Shirik|zZz | wb Kirkburn|afk |
| 05:36.47 | raevanmorlock | I think you're backwards |
| 05:37.00 | Shirik|zZz | :D |
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| 05:38.36 | raevanmorlock | You guys don't seem to understand what being away means |
| 05:40.00 | raevanmorlock | Hot Fuzz starts on Friday? I gotta take my parents to see that while they're here |
| 05:41.21 | raevanmorlock | Let's play a game--guess what show I'm watching! |
| 05:45.08 | Tem | sorry, but I'm too annoyed by my graphical failure to care |
| 05:45.09 | Shirik|zZz | you're obviously watching mIRC |
| 05:45.18 | Shirik|zZz | specifically you're watching mIRC v6.21 |
| 05:46.20 | raevanmorlock | sorry.. I wasn't watching the chat |
| 05:46.26 | Shirik|zZz | you are now |
| 05:46.44 | raevanmorlock | how do you know? I could be having someone read it off to me. |
| 05:47.03 | Shirik|zZz | Then when they type it, they wouldn't be typing "I" |
| 05:47.10 | Tem|Sleep | unless they were lying |
| 05:47.34 | raevanmorlock | Maybe I'm typing it wirelesslsy from across the tromm |
| 05:47.48 | Shirik|zZz | wirelesslsy |
| 05:47.58 | raevanmorlock | gghat whats I said |
| 05:47.58 | Shirik|zZz | tromm |
| 05:48.10 | Shirik|zZz | I'll blame those on the fact that your wireless connection is poor |
| 05:48.16 | raevanmorlock | whats a trom? |
| 05:48.29 | Shirik|zZz | supposedly it's what you're across |
| 05:48.31 | raevanmorlock | I';m so confused |
| 05:51.10 | Shirik|zZz | anyway |
| 05:51.15 | Shirik|zZz | I'll be heading to sleep for real now |
| 05:52.24 | Nom- | Sure you will, Shirik|zZz |
| 05:52.35 | raevanmorlock | suuuuure you will |
| 06:14.24 | raevanmorlock | OMG I think he did |
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| 06:48.56 | ckknight | has anyone else seen the absurdity of http://ace.pastey.net/8628 ? |
| 06:49.58 | krka | wtf |
| 06:50.41 | ckknight | my reaction as well |
| 06:50.44 | krka | daily wtf-worthy |
| 06:50.58 | krka | l2closure |
| 06:51.30 | ckknight | theoretically it'd be more efficient than upvalues after a collectgarbage |
| 06:51.35 | ckknight | but still, not worth it |
| 06:51.38 | ckknight | imho |
| 06:51.42 | krka | are you sure? |
| 06:51.51 | krka | it will create duplicate prototypes |
| 06:52.06 | krka | and a prototype is typically bigger than an upvalue |
| 06:52.34 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:52.38 | ckknight | yea, you're right, actually |
| 06:52.39 | ckknight | lol. |
| 06:52.39 | krka | the actual function may be slightly faster from not using an upvalue though |
| 06:52.55 | krka | of course i am right |
| 06:53.00 | krka | i pretty much always am |
| 06:53.05 | ckknight | and you'd still have the strings in memory and such |
| 06:53.24 | krka | nah, the string should get garbage collected |
| 06:54.39 | krka | i'm chocked that all the repeated string.format('%q', index) didn't make the author extract it into a local |
| 06:59.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | 5% +hit is all you need if you're not dual wielding, correct? |
| 06:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | that will get you pretty much max %hit on things up to 3 levels above you, correct? |
| 07:02.12 | gnorlish | 2 levels |
| 07:02.26 | gnorlish | 3 levels it blows up to needing something like 15 |
| 07:02.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 07:02.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm at 5.20% so i'm good |
| 07:03.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna miss that stamina though |
| 07:03.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6594 hp in my dps gear :[ |
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| 07:06.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yippee, up to 4.08% less chance to be crit too :O |
| 07:07.24 | Shadowed | gnorlish: Are you sure? That doesn't sound right at all |
| 07:08.38 | gnorlish | there's a wiki article on it, the main thing is that there's a big jump from mobs +2 to mobs +3 levels |
| 07:08.53 | Shadowed | Do you remember the location? |
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| 07:11.09 | gnorlish | well, i did find an interesting calculator that tells you the rating you need to gain 1% for skills |
| 07:11.26 | gnorlish | here's the spell hit chance article http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Spell_hit_chance |
| 07:12.43 | Shadowed | Thats spell hit, not melee |
| 07:12.46 | zenzelezz | wasn't Rabies talking melee+ |
| 07:13.06 | zenzelezz | curse you Shadowed |
| 07:13.12 | Shadowed | hehe |
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| 07:21.00 | gnorlish | melee +hit looks to be a ton more complicated |
| 07:21.09 | gnorlish | and gets much worse for higher level mobs |
| 07:22.39 | gnorlish | every post i can find is a rogue |
| 07:24.27 | zenzelezz | I haven't paid much attention, but I think my friend rogues still aim for 5% |
| 07:24.42 | gnorlish | it looks like vs +3lvl mobs, you take 5% base+(.04%*15)=5.6% base miss |
| 07:25.21 | gnorlish | so 6% +hit means you'll never miss with an instant attack |
| 07:25.31 | gnorlish | but those attacks can still be dodged, parried, blocked |
| 07:25.39 | gnorlish | and that's where things get much more complicated |
| 07:25.59 | zenzelezz | I thought there was a 1% constant chance to miss with melee? Or am I mixing things up again |
| 07:26.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 07:26.08 | gnorlish | mixing |
| 07:26.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | theres no way to get 100% chance to hit |
| 07:26.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | only 99% |
| 07:26.50 | gnorlish | it seems like major raid bosses' stats get screwed with too in unknown ways |
| 07:27.01 | gnorlish | so a lot of the normal calculations don't quite apply to them |
| 07:27.02 | zenzelezz | wouldn't surprise me |
| 07:27.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | raid bosses are level+3 |
| 07:27.36 | gnorlish | some of them seem to have extra modifiers |
| 07:29.39 | gnorlish | +weapon skill modifies +hit as well |
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| 07:35.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did 33000 damage and the pally and rogue are still alive :[ |
| 07:35.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn palllies :[ |
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| 07:44.04 | ckknight | after the world has been destroyed and the heavens fade away, all that will be left are the paladins, each in their respective bubbles |
| 07:44.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | for 12 seconds until the fallout hits |
| 07:44.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | then they'll just cast flash of light until their cooldown fades |
| 07:45.03 | ckknight | see |
| 07:45.03 | ckknight | forever. |
| 07:47.28 | Shadowed | You know, I just realised you figure out who you're playing against on arenas if they're the same faction/different server in 2.1 easly |
| 07:47.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | hows that |
| 07:47.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love when they do /y |
| 07:47.52 | Shadowed | whisper addon messages |
| 07:47.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i look them up on armory :O |
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| 07:48.05 | Shadowed | sent silently and you check to see if it errors |
| 07:49.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr down for anyone else? |
| 08:00.54 | Cairenn|afk | yes, it is down for me as well |
| 08:01.11 | Cairenn|afk | 503 - Service Temp Unavail |
| 08:08.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | L[ |
| 08:08.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | er :[ |
| 08:08.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | wanted to recopy my druid a 6th time to check out gear changes |
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| 08:14.38 | VoidRaider | Hmm if I'm making an empty table say x = { }; and make another table under the same name with some values x = {y = 0}, would the 1st table be de-allocated immediately or it will be de-allocated only after the 2nd table constructor has finished ? |
| 08:14.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo, shifting costs reduced on the ptr |
| 08:15.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | 729->580 mana with 3/3 NSS on both |
| 08:15.26 | chuckg | That's a bit excessive. |
| 08:16.13 | chuckg | Shadowed, did they fix the focus thing in arenas? |
| 08:16.32 | chuckg | If you'd played against a team before and had a focus, you could very briefly catch it if you zoned in fast enough. |
| 08:16.32 | Shadowed | But it's fun to abuse things! |
| 08:16.36 | Shadowed | No they haven't |
| 08:16.39 | chuckg | Awesome. |
| 08:16.50 | chuckg | I doubt very highly many people know about that. |
| 08:16.53 | Shadowed | I'm sure somebody else will realize that eventually, like they did arena talents. |
| 08:17.01 | chuckg | Mostly because most people still don't know what a focus is. |
| 08:17.05 | Shadowed | that you can use silent messages to see who you're playing that is |
| 08:17.13 | chuckg | Arena Talents? |
| 08:17.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | 580 mana's still a decent chunk of my mana pool |
| 08:17.27 | Shadowed | you can get the enemy teams talents into the game |
| 08:17.31 | chuckg | Thats' what it was at 60. |
| 08:17.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got like, ~4000 mana or something |
| 08:17.37 | chuckg | That'll get nerfed again. |
| 08:17.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's with 3/3 NSS though |
| 08:18.01 | Shadowed | relatively easly actually |
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| 09:16.49 | zenzelezz | why does Southshore get elite guards but Ironforge not |
| 09:18.42 | haste | because southshore has a really important person, with a awesome cape |
| 09:19.01 | VoidRaider | Blizzard scared the horde would outnumber the alliance imo, that's the reason :P |
| 09:27.52 | Industrial | why does org get elite rogue guards? |
| 09:33.52 | JunkHead-Work | I had a guildmate open some lockboxes for me tonight. |
| 09:34.03 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6660#c0z <-- I got this. |
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| 09:50.08 | haste | Industrial: because ironforge has those also |
| 09:51.50 | Industrial | ic |
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| 10:12.25 | zenzelezz | what is the norm for rogues, slow main-hand, fast off-hand? |
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| 10:12.58 | Industrial | would go for all dual wielders right? |
| 10:13.24 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't know, I really only play a warrior so far, and he's sword & board |
| 10:18.12 | SunTiger | zenzelezz, its more like |
| 10:18.17 | SunTiger | fast offhand for poisons |
| 10:18.22 | SunTiger | highest damage range mainhand |
| 10:18.26 | SunTiger | slow is not a requirement |
| 10:18.35 | SunTiger | it simply coincides. |
| 10:18.53 | zenzelezz | just high top end or also high low end? |
| 10:19.19 | SunTiger | both |
| 10:19.36 | SunTiger | the closer the two are the better. |
| 10:19.42 | zenzelezz | I see, thanks :-) |
| 10:33.00 | Nom- | ooooo 64 bit java XD |
| 10:38.28 | Elkano | ckknight wrt broken count anchors on Pitbull's (de)buffs, position 1 and 2 seem broken, 3 was working |
| 10:39.27 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
| 10:40.03 | Elkano | oh... and clickability functionality for lines 1 and 2 in Tablet are proken for me atm :/ |
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| 12:26.10 | LHJ | HI, I did a hook on AddMessage from chatframes with a snippet of code I found, its passing the arguments (frame, text, r, g, b, id), could anyone tell me what the last four arguments are, or direct me to a place where I can see the original function im hooking into? |
| 12:27.13 | JoshBorke | LHJ: wdn.wowinterface.com has all the available UI code. have you looked at www.wowwiki.com? |
| 12:27.36 | LHJ | I tried wowwiki yes, but cant find any AddMessage in the WoW api |
| 12:27.57 | LHJ | Can find AddChatMessage but thats not the right one :) |
| 12:28.08 | LHJ | Ill try the first link you gav |
| 12:28.09 | LHJ | e |
| 12:28.44 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ScrollingMessageFrame_AddMessage |
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| 12:29.29 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#MessageFrame |
| 12:29.29 | LHJ | THank you, thats where it was hiding :P |
| 12:29.41 | Elkano | clad|sleep: ping? |
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| 12:39.34 | Shirik|zZz | LHJ You're hooking that wrong |
| 12:40.09 | Shirik | If you only care about the first five |
| 12:40.37 | Shirik | then you should hook with: function newAddMessage(frame, text, r, g, b, id, ...) --[[ do some stuff ]] oldAddMessage(frame, text, r, g, b, id, ...); end |
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| 12:55.09 | LHJ | Shirik, isn't there only five arguments anyway? |
| 12:55.30 | LHJ | But basically I just care about the text part anyway, so I can use that after the first two |
| 12:56.17 | LHJ | But basically what I really want to do is to somehow be able to selective hide all in and outgoing wispers based on what is contained in the text of the wisper. |
| 12:56.49 | LHJ | Hooking into the chatframes is the only way ive found so way, but not really that elegant of a solution tbh |
| 12:57.31 | LHJ | But I got another problem aswell, how can I from inside my addon make it invoke a macro command fx /MyMacro ? |
| 12:59.11 | LHJ | Or well actually not a macro, but invoke a slash command |
| 12:59.21 | batrick | LHJ the reason you do that is so in future patches if they add another argument your hooking is still safe |
| 13:00.18 | batrick | i don't think you can invoke slash commands from within an addon |
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| 13:05.09 | Corrodias | the PTR hasn't even been UP for two weeks, has it? |
| 13:06.29 | LHJ | batrick, one way I think ive found you can is to make your addon create a macro with the slash command, then invoke the macro and delete it after. Not pretty but possible |
| 13:06.59 | batrick | ya I suppose so |
| 13:07.14 | LHJ | But, its protected functions and cant be used in combat so its kindda crap |
| 13:07.14 | batrick | that goes off the assumption that the user has macro space avaiable |
| 13:07.20 | LHJ | Yeah that aswell |
| 13:07.54 | Corrodias | how long has ptr been up? |
| 13:08.31 | batrick | because the user didn't invoke the macro, I don't think you'd be able to do anything interesting anyway |
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| 13:52.52 | Shirik|Ecole | yey clad|sleep :) |
| 13:52.54 | Shirik|Ecole | You beat me |
| 13:56.03 | zenzelezz | that's not a very nice thing to do |
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| 15:05.22 | xsarpedon | Anyone know if there is an event that is fired when you finish an Arena? I'd like to get the point changes when the arena finishes. |
| 15:06.15 | xsarpedon | Barring that I suppose I could do a zone change check for changes in arena points, but that's not quite as nice. |
| 15:06.44 | JoshBorke | xsarpedon: use DevTools, it has a nice gui that shows events as they fire |
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| 15:06.53 | JoshBorke | you could eliminate all the ones you know it isn't |
| 15:07.20 | Antiarc|Wor1 | xsarpedon: You could just hook the OnShow for the score frame |
| 15:08.18 | xsarpedon | Ok, thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into it. |
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| 15:12.02 | Maldivia | *smirk* |
| 15:12.23 | JoshBorke | ~lart Mikma |
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| 15:12.37 | Mikma | *giggle* |
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| 15:13.53 | Maldivia | Was reading some old posts on the forums, and stumpled on the suggestion post about new titles... and lauged a bit about the proposted title for 375 fishing skill: Master Baiter |
| 15:14.43 | zenzelezz | I see your point |
| 15:14.56 | zenzelezz | but you can't really take Master Angler, that'd be ol' Pagle |
| 15:16.07 | Maldivia | true |
| 15:29.05 | zenzelezz | my new Samtron LCD is already putting my old Acer to shame :-/ |
| 15:29.43 | zenzelezz | then again, so is my Hyundai, which is older than the Acer... either my room is really Acer-hostile, or this particular Acer model sucks (had three of them die) |
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| 15:34.09 | Maldivia | which model is that? |
| 15:34.20 | zenzelezz | I never stop finding it amusing when I shut down Windows through the start menu and the next time it starts it tells me "the system has recovered from a serious error" |
| 15:34.31 | zenzelezz | which one Maldivia, the Acer, Hyundai or Samtron? |
| 15:35.02 | Maldivia | the acer |
| 15:35.50 | zenzelezz | AL1715s |
| 15:36.39 | Maldivia | ok |
| 15:37.06 | Maldivia | I should probably get myself a new LCD aswell |
| 15:37.32 | zenzelezz | you're unlikely to encounter that Acer model anymore, it's three years old at least |
| 15:37.51 | zenzelezz | I was surprised to see they only carry a few 17" LCDs anymore, the focus seems to be 19" |
| 15:37.58 | zenzelezz | ("they" as in shops in general) |
| 15:38.59 | Maldivia | I have an acer aswell, 17", can't remember the model number though |
| 15:39.24 | Maldivia | and it's 3+ years aswell |
| 15:39.34 | Maldivia | not the best screen in the world, but its done it's job OK |
| 15:39.49 | zenzelezz | well, when they worked for me, they were okay |
| 15:40.00 | zenzelezz | but three died, of similar but not identical symptoms |
| 15:40.29 | Maldivia | never had any problems with mine, not even (sub-)pixel errors |
| 15:40.33 | zenzelezz | dear god this new one is sharp |
| 15:40.40 | zenzelezz | true, I've never had pixel problems either |
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| 15:41.07 | zenzelezz | like I said, I won't rule out there just being some condition about my room that the Acers were more susceptible to than the others |
| 15:41.13 | Maldivia | yeah, I noticed my Acer was a bit fuzzy, when I placed it next to a Dell 19" during last summer :) |
| 15:41.56 | zenzelezz | I need to find a magazine or two though... the new monitor is about 1.5cm too low compared to the Acer :-p |
| 15:42.00 | zenzelezz | (bottom edge) |
| 15:42.32 | Maldivia | hehehe |
| 15:44.44 | LHJ | How do you get the Unit ID from a player name? |
| 15:44.57 | JoshBorke | scan through all unit id's |
| 15:45.17 | LHJ | You kidding me I hope |
| 15:45.19 | Shirik | LHJ: Soemtimes you don't need to |
| 15:45.21 | Shirik | and no, he's not |
| 15:45.25 | LHJ | Zomg |
| 15:45.28 | Shirik | But |
| 15:45.31 | LHJ | Well I react to a say |
| 15:45.31 | Shirik | what do you need the unit id? |
| 15:45.33 | LHJ | with that event |
| 15:45.39 | Shirik | why* |
| 15:45.40 | LHJ | Then I need to see if the person is from my guild |
| 15:45.45 | JoshBorke | local units = {'mousover', 'target', 'focus', 'party1', 'party2', etc} for _,unit in pairs(units) do if UnitName(unit) == name then <yay> end end |
| 15:46.03 | Shirik | How does unit id help you tell whether or not the person is from your guild? |
| 15:46.04 | Maldivia | or for raids: for i = 1, GetNumRaidMembers() do if name == UnitName("raid" ..i) then message("raid"..i.." is the unit id") end |
| 15:46.14 | LHJ | GetGuildInfo requires unit id |
| 15:46.25 | LHJ | Sames does UnitInParty |
| 15:46.30 | Shirik | are you assuming that they're in your party/raid? |
| 15:46.34 | Shirik | Also, one more thing to note |
| 15:46.35 | LHJ | No im nto |
| 15:46.36 | JoshBorke | LHJ: you can pull names easily |
| 15:46.38 | Shirik | if they are in your party/raid |
| 15:46.44 | Shirik | their name is a valid unit ID |
| 15:46.44 | LHJ | I only assume they are standing in /say range of me |
| 15:46.52 | Shirik | LHJ: Then they wouldn't have a unit id |
| 15:46.56 | Shirik | unless someone has them targeted |
| 15:47.04 | LHJ | So I will need to target them? |
| 15:47.09 | Shirik | Um... yes |
| 15:47.12 | Shirik | but you're going about this wrong |
| 15:47.16 | Shirik | you should probably use SendWho |
| 15:47.39 | Maldivia | if you just want to check if the person is in your guild, scan the guild roster |
| 15:47.40 | Shirik | Unless you're assuming the person is in your raid/party, you cannot assume they have a unit ID |
| 15:47.45 | LHJ | Well I need to both get the guild name and if they are inside my party |
| 15:48.01 | Maldivia | check the name of party1..party4 |
| 15:48.09 | Shirik | The only way to determine if they are in your party, then, is what Maldivia/ JoshBorke have said |
| 15:48.15 | Shirik | scan the unit IDs of the raid/party |
| 15:48.17 | LHJ | Yeah so scan guild rooster and scan entire raid |
| 15:48.29 | LHJ | Probably the way to go |
| 15:48.43 | Shirik | I still think your design is flawed |
| 15:48.45 | Shirik | but you can do that, yes |
| 15:48.52 | LHJ | Whats your idea then shirik? |
| 15:49.03 | Shirik | What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 15:49.49 | LHJ | What I want is when a guildie stands in say range of me and say something specific they get invite to raid. |
| 15:50.13 | LHJ | And I prefer not to get already in group spam from stupid guildmembers playing around so UnitInPary was preferred :) |
| 15:50.28 | Shirik | don't scan every time |
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| 15:50.39 | Maldivia | scan once, cache result in a table |
| 15:50.42 | Shirik | right |
| 15:50.58 | Shirik | the party members aren't going to change without you knowing it |
| 15:51.06 | LHJ | scan on initialise, update on change |
| 15:51.40 | Maldivia | Shirik: neither is guild roster |
| 15:52.09 | Shirik | right, sorry a bit unclear |
| 15:52.27 | LHJ | But anyway think I got how to go by it now |
| 15:52.36 | LHJ | My problem was not knowing about the dam unitID's |
| 15:52.50 | LHJ | Figured you could just do that stuff with name and not an id |
| 15:54.11 | Shirik | you can |
| 15:54.12 | Shirik | but... |
| 15:54.20 | Shirik | like let's say I'm in your raid |
| 15:54.24 | Shirik | "Shirik" is a valid unit ID |
| 15:54.27 | Shirik | as is "Shirik-target" |
| 15:54.35 | Shirik | as is "Shirik-targetpet" |
| 15:54.36 | Shirik | etc. |
| 15:54.41 | Shirik | actually I don't think that last one is |
| 15:54.42 | Shirik | but same difference |
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| 15:55.00 | LHJ | Well yeah, you can do it Sometimes |
| 15:55.02 | Shirik | but you can't use those if I'm not in your raid/party |
| 15:55.13 | Shirik | and if you tried to use it when I'm not in your raid/party you're just going to get an error |
| 15:55.23 | Shirik | I guess you could try using pcall() but that is such an ugly hack and would never recommend it |
| 15:55.25 | Maldivia | they added names as unit-ids if they are in your raid? hmm, must have missed that |
| 15:55.33 | Shirik | aye, it was a really nice change :) |
| 15:55.41 | Shirik | I use it for my assists window |
| 15:55.50 | Shirik | made things a lot easier to deal with when people join raid mid-combat |
| 15:56.01 | zenzelezz | when did they add that? |
| 15:56.08 | Shirik | I... think 2.0 |
| 15:56.09 | Shirik | I'm not quite sure |
| 15:56.25 | Shirik | But |
| 15:56.31 | Maldivia | it was a 2.0.x release, not in the initial 2.0.3 |
| 15:56.32 | Shirik | remember that bug where you couldn't invite people starting with name "pet" |
| 15:56.33 | Shirik | ? |
| 15:56.44 | Shirik | this change was basically the cause |
| 15:56.45 | pastamancer | I thought names as unitids was a 2.1 thing? |
| 15:56.47 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 15:56.53 | Shirik | pastamancer: Nope I'm definitely using it now |
| 15:56.58 | pastamancer | interesting |
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| 15:57.27 | pastamancer | perhaps someday I'll have time to do more coding |
| 15:57.47 | pastamancer | that certainly simplifies large portions of rosterlib |
| 15:58.26 | pastamancer | and removes the need for caching id<->name mappings in castcomm |
| 15:58.38 | Shirik | we still cache id->name mappings, actually |
| 15:58.55 | Shirik | not sure if it's really necessary |
| 15:58.55 | Shirik | but we do |
| 15:58.58 | pastamancer | heh |
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| 16:00.30 | Shirik | 2.0.3 supported that, I can tell you that much |
| 16:00.34 | Shirik | so it was 2.0.3 or before |
| 16:01.15 | Maldivia | well, 2.0.3 was the first 2.0.x release |
| 16:01.46 | Maldivia | 2.0.0 to 2.0.2 was beta |
| 16:01.46 | Shirik | ah, just looking through patch notes |
| 16:02.04 | Shirik | 2.0.3 mentions that [target=<name>] is valid in a macro. And that macro feature uses the same method, using the name as the unit token |
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| 16:08.25 | Shirik | btw, correcting what I said earlier |
| 16:08.40 | Shirik | to continue down a path, you need dashes everywhere. So my target's target would be Shirik-target-target |
| 16:08.44 | Shirik | not Shirik-targettarget |
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| 16:11.00 | Mikma | is there a way to add a small pause with macro? |
| 16:11.09 | Shirik | heh |
| 16:11.15 | Shirik | in between casts or something? |
| 16:11.28 | Shirik | (btw, short answer is no |
| 16:11.38 | Shirik | long answer is "maybe" |
| 16:11.42 | Mikma | in this case, i'm trying to make a macro that casts shadowfiend, does a small pause and uses /focus |
| 16:11.53 | Shirik | not really |
| 16:11.59 | Mikma | crap. |
| 16:12.14 | Shirik | why do you need the pause? |
| 16:12.42 | Mikma | when i use /cast Shadowfiend(rank 1) and /target shadowfiend, it doesn't exist at the point the /target is in turn |
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| 16:12.50 | Mikma | so, i get something random as target and /focus that :D |
| 16:13.08 | Shirik | ok, what about |
| 16:13.35 | Alquazar | Is the shadowfiend considered a pet? |
| 16:13.35 | Shirik | doing /focus [pet] Shadowfiend /cast [nopet] Shadowfiend |
| 16:13.40 | Alquazar | Maybe /focus playerpet |
| 16:13.40 | Mikma | Alquazar: not quite sure about that one |
| 16:14.00 | Shirik | Alquazar: That doesn't solve the problem that the pet doesn't exist at time of focus |
| 16:14.30 | Shirik | Mikma: Try the macro I gave; hitting it twice should do what you want |
| 16:14.39 | Mikma | hmm yeah |
| 16:14.46 | Mikma | let's see, cooldown is complete now hehe |
| 16:14.58 | Nerinia | Shadowfiend ist not a pet |
| 16:15.04 | Nerinia | *is |
| 16:15.10 | Mikma | "xxx's guardian" |
| 16:15.30 | Shirik | hm |
| 16:15.37 | Mikma | so then i need to make a small pause-addon myseld :D |
| 16:15.45 | Shirik | well Mikma |
| 16:15.46 | Alquazar | Ah, I figured focus taking a unit would set it whether it existed or not. |
| 16:15.46 | Shirik | that exists |
| 16:15.47 | Mikma | all i propably need is 0.5sec pause |
| 16:15.49 | Shirik | it's called Chronos |
| 16:15.53 | Alquazar | But I just tested it and it doesn't. |
| 16:15.56 | Shirik | But FocusUnit is ap rotected function |
| 16:16.00 | Shirik | it won't let you do that on pause |
| 16:16.10 | Mikma | yeah but i don't feel like adding chronos for that :) |
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| 16:16.19 | Shirik | ok well the problem still exists that you can't write such an addon |
| 16:16.45 | Mikma | Shirik: i was just planning that i do a /cast Shadowfiend(rank 1) /mydummypause /target Shadowfiend /focus /targetlasttarget |
| 16:16.56 | Shirik | your dummy pause does what though? |
| 16:17.08 | Mikma | wastes time :P |
| 16:17.13 | Shirik | the only way that's possible |
| 16:17.17 | Shirik | is if you lock up the game for that period of time |
| 16:17.32 | Mikma | hehe ^^ |
| 16:17.40 | Shirik | as soon as the function that executes /mydummypause returns, it will continue to the next statement |
| 16:17.43 | Shirik | if you really want to do that |
| 16:17.51 | Shirik | why not /script for x = 1, 99999999999 do end |
| 16:17.58 | Shirik | don't need an addon for that |
| 16:18.27 | Mikma | so then i have to find a perfect value for 0.5 second lockup |
| 16:18.29 | Shirik | I still am not sure if the game environment will update in the middle of a macro, and your macro thus would still not work |
| 16:19.34 | Maldivia | Mikma, perfect 0.5 sec, something like: /run local t=GetTime() while GetTime() < t+0.5 do end |
| 16:19.35 | Mikma | now that was a long lockup ;) |
| 16:20.00 | Shirik | lol, 2.1 implements clubbing and raves: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=38674 |
| 16:20.09 | Mikma | Maldivia: neat! thanks i'll test that out now |
| 16:20.22 | TC_Working | heeeeeeeeeeers jonny! |
| 16:20.57 | Maldivia | Hi Jonny :) |
| 16:21.04 | Shirik | Mikma: I have a better idea |
| 16:21.09 | TC_Working | where is jonny? |
| 16:21.14 | Shirik | do you ever set your focus to something that is not your shadowfiend |
| 16:21.16 | Shirik | ? |
| 16:21.19 | Mikma | Shirik: lol that was a nice video |
| 16:21.24 | Mikma | Shirik: no |
| 16:21.28 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:21.31 | Shirik | why are you setting the focus again? |
| 16:21.53 | Mikma | good question. i'm not sure about that one. i forgot it O_O |
| 16:22.04 | Shirik | *headdesk* |
| 16:22.08 | Shirik | well, let's say you figure that one out |
| 16:22.13 | Maldivia | new shadowfiend, new unit, old focus won't work? |
| 16:22.31 | Shirik | at the beginning of wherever you use it, why not /focus [target=focus,noexists] Shadowfiend |
| 16:22.38 | Shirik | Maldivia: sorry perhaps I worded the question wrong |
| 16:22.43 | Shirik | I meant where do you use the focus unit |
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| 16:22.51 | leethal | any ace hax00rs around? How hard would it be to make the ag_unitframes target bar fill left <= right instead of left => right like it does by default? |
| 16:23.24 | Maldivia | Shirik: heh |
| 16:23.41 | leethal | and wtb 12 stam on boots \o/ |
| 16:25.18 | Maldivia | leethal: you mean on the status bar ? |
| 16:25.27 | leethal | no, the health/mana bars |
| 16:25.36 | Maldivia | yeah, those are StatusBars :) |
| 16:25.37 | leethal | for my target |
| 16:25.43 | leethal | ah, yes then =) |
| 16:25.54 | Mikma | leethal: use PitBull ;) |
| 16:26.02 | leethal | *googling* |
| 16:26.33 | leethal | wow, cool |
| 16:27.11 | Mikma | cool what? :) |
| 16:27.17 | leethal | kinda DUF, but working and possible to configure for a none programmer? |
| 16:27.32 | leethal | (not that I'm not a programmer, but DUF sucked) |
| 16:27.34 | leethal | PitBull |
| 16:27.36 | leethal | looked cool |
| 16:27.38 | leethal | </monologue> |
| 16:27.42 | Mikma | well pitbull has all sort of things in it, and one of the features is what you asked for :) |
| 16:27.57 | Shirik | I licked DUF :( |
| 16:28.04 | Mikma | i use it for my own unitframe since it's in middle of screen and target is next to it |
| 16:28.22 | leethal | yeah, much easier to see the HP difference between you and your target if the bars are mirrored |
| 16:29.22 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure you should have shared that info Shirik |
| 16:30.08 | Shirik | ? |
| 16:30.25 | Shirik | I liked it! |
| 16:30.26 | leethal | I liked DUF too, used it before 2.0 |
| 16:30.39 | Shirik | omg -_- |
| 16:30.51 | Mikma | leethal: you can even color the hp of yourself to different color with pitbull |
| 16:31.04 | zenzelezz | that's not what you said |
| 16:31.04 | Shirik | >< |
| 16:31.17 | Shirik | wtb irc with spellcheck :( |
| 16:31.30 | Shirik | well spellcheck wouldn't have worked |
| 16:36.06 | leethal | Shirik: tws mack with colloquy |
| 16:36.06 | leethal | there we go.. |
| 16:36.06 | leethal | wts* |
| 16:36.06 | Maldivia | the only unit frames I use, are for raid units |
| 16:36.06 | Maldivia | other than that, the default works for me |
| 16:36.07 | Mikma | leethal: http://wow.reaktio.net/lollers.jpg |
| 16:36.07 | leethal | =) |
| 16:36.07 | leethal | just installed it, just what I needed |
| 16:36.07 | leethal | ag_unitframes, but with more options |
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| 16:36.08 | TC_Working | just wait for DFM then |
| 16:36.08 | TC_Working | it can do all that and more! |
| 16:36.08 | Mikma | what's that? |
| 16:36.09 | TC_Working | err...DUB |
| 16:36.09 | leethal | gief |
| 16:36.09 | TC_Working | Discord UI Builder |
| 16:36.09 | Mikma | when will that be done |
| 16:36.09 | leethal | "new unit frame" - what is that? |
| 16:36.09 | TC_Working | thats a good question |
| 16:36.09 | leethal | in pitbul |
| 16:36.09 | leethal | pitbull* |
| 16:36.09 | Mikma | don't mind about it :P you can create new unitframes with it for *something* |
| 16:36.09 | TC_Working | btw they have 2.0 ported versions of all of discords mods with the exception of GB |
| 16:36.09 | Mikma | that's nice |
| 16:37.36 | leethal | yeah, but they are still very port-ish |
| 16:37.44 | leethal | like DAB not supporting stances etc |
| 16:38.17 | TC_Working | well they didnt bother rewriteing them fully because loz was supposed to release BUB |
| 16:38.23 | TC_Working | s/BUB/DUB/ |
| 16:39.06 | leethal | isn't he gonna do that? |
| 16:39.10 | leethal | "was supposed to"? |
| 16:39.35 | TC_Working | well, it has no eta |
| 16:40.07 | TC_Working | and he started working on it before 2.0 was released |
| 16:42.25 | leethal | I actually use DFM in my current UI |
| 16:42.42 | leethal | to position the chat frame |
| 16:45.46 | TC_Working | i use dfm as well |
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| 17:22.45 | JoshBorke | >>> return "test" |
| 17:23.07 | Shirik | JoshBorke: "test" |
| 17:23.17 | TC_Working | heh |
| 17:24.40 | JoshBorke | >>> local t = {'1', '2', '3'}; local str = ''; do entry = next(t); str = str .. tostring(entry); until not entry; print(str) |
| 17:24.40 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 17:24.41 | TC_Working | just ping cide till he turns himself back on |
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| 17:25.00 | Shirik | JoshBorke: stdin:1: 'end' expected near 'until' |
| 17:25.09 | JoshBorke | hrm |
| 17:25.24 | Cide | try now |
| 17:25.38 | TC_Working | see, told you it would work |
| 17:25.42 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:25.55 | JoshBorke | >>> local t = {'1', '2', '3'}; local str = ''; repeat entry = next(t); str = str .. tostring(entry); until not entry; print(str) |
| 17:26.01 | Cide | JoshBorke: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 17:26.24 | JoshBorke | obviously i have no grasp on next |
| 17:26.25 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 17:26.33 | Shirik | that's odd |
| 17:26.43 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:26.48 | Shirik | you changed something |
| 17:26.48 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:26.58 | JoshBorke | i changed do to repeat |
| 17:27.47 | pastamancer | I'll give you a hint |
| 17:27.59 | pastamancer | next doesn't magically keep state |
| 17:28.05 | pastamancer | this isn't php |
| 17:29.24 | JoshBorke | i got it now, thanks |
| 17:29.39 | pastamancer | :) |
| 17:30.09 | Shirik | there's one other little problem |
| 17:30.20 | Shirik | you're going to concatenate "nil" on the end |
| 17:30.23 | JoshBorke | doesn't help me much for what i'm working on |
| 17:30.38 | JoshBorke | Shirik: tostring never returns nil |
| 17:30.51 | Shirik | I mean |
| 17:31.00 | Shirik | concatenate the string "nil" |
| 17:31.04 | Shirik | > local t = {'1', '2', '3'}; local str = ''; repeat n, entry = next(t, n); str = str..tostring(entry); until not entry; print(str); |
| 17:31.04 | Shirik | 23nil |
| 17:31.15 | JoshBorke | yea, which is fine |
| 17:31.24 | Shirik | hm, that's not even right |
| 17:31.25 | JoshBorke | i was just trying to learn about next |
| 17:31.25 | Shirik | oops |
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| 17:31.54 | Shirik | if you understand pairs() then you understand next(), you just don't know it ^^ |
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| 17:34.30 | JoshBorke | yes, that's what i read |
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| 17:43.12 | Jumpee | One nice thing I like about SciTE is using the 'Go' feature that lets my find my typos without having to login to WoW. |
| 17:43.22 | Jumpee | my = me |
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| 17:44.39 | Kirkburn | That thing about Steam being hacked that came up yesterday ... it was real, but way, way, exaggerated - http://steamreview.org/posts/cafecardsstolen/ |
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| 18:15.06 | pastamancer | bah, flash media server is aggrivating. worst documentation ever |
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| 18:25.21 | zenzelezz | Karazhan General chat is about to make me /leave the channel |
| 18:26.08 | TC_Working | pastamancer, i bet you could find worse documentation |
| 18:29.09 | pastamancer | TC_Working: I'm sure, but the documentation I have for FMS is amazingly useless |
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| 18:39.35 | TC_Working | pastamancer, are you useing adobes documentation? |
| 18:40.49 | pastamancer | yes :( |
| 18:41.20 | pastamancer | it doesn't explain the nuances of getting vhosts that actually use their own settings rather than using the _defaultVhost_ settings |
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| 18:44.46 | TC_Working | GG adobe |
| 18:44.56 | TC_Working | s/GG/GJ/ |
| 18:45.02 | Arrowmaster | wtf is a flash media server? |
| 18:45.34 | pastamancer | handles dynamic compression of streaming flash vide/audio and some advanced RPC-like stuff |
| 18:45.40 | pastamancer | s/vide/video/ |
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| 18:55.22 | TC_Working | pastamancer FMS 1 or 2> |
| 18:55.24 | TC_Working | ?* |
| 18:58.19 | pastamancer | 2 |
| 18:58.59 | TC_Working | can always try http://www.flashcomguru.com/forum/search.asp?KW=vhost&SM=1&SI=TC&FM=0&OB=1 |
| 18:59.06 | pastamancer | I'm off to harass the web developers |
| 18:59.24 | TC_Working | enojy |
| 18:59.35 | TC_Working | s/enojy/enjoy/ |
| 19:04.41 | pastamancer | oh if it's a bug in the admin console, I'm going to scream |
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| 19:22.01 | phyber | is there something up with wowi recently? it never remembers my login these days. |
| 19:22.15 | sysrage | pebkac |
| 19:22.36 | phyber | o rly, on two different computers with different browsers and networks, the "Remember Me" button manages to fail? |
| 19:23.19 | sysrage | i don't have a clue what the problem is. i just felt like saying pebkac |
| 19:24.52 | Shirik|Ecole | wowi? |
| 19:24.55 | Shirik|Ecole | I've had no trouble |
| 19:25.04 | Shirik|Ecole | wowwiki on the other hand has been a pain the neck today to me :P |
| 19:25.29 | nevcairiel | wowwiki has its usal laginess today |
| 19:25.56 | Shirik|Ecole | well, yeah, but also it did something wierd to me today |
| 19:26.09 | Shirik|Ecole | logged me out, then made me revalidate my email... |
| 19:26.58 | nevcairiel | I bet thats Kirkburn's fault |
| 19:27.14 | Shirik|Ecole | it's always Kirkburn's fault |
| 19:28.15 | Shirik|Ecole | um.... |
| 19:28.15 | Kirkburn | It's my fault. |
| 19:28.21 | Shirik|Ecole | breaking news |
| 19:28.22 | Kirkburn | Now, what are you talking about? |
| 19:28.37 | Shirik|Ecole | Australian Scientist manages to make a sub that runs on "recycled" power: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/04/17/australia.biosub.reut/index.html |
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| 19:29.14 | Kirkburn | Shirik|Ecole, I don't suppose you read the wiki's news, village pump or main page? |
| 19:29.23 | Shirik|Ecole | nah I'm lazy |
| 19:29.29 | Shirik|Ecole | actually I just logged in to fix one thing today |
| 19:29.31 | Shirik|Ecole | and saw that |
| 19:29.33 | Kirkburn | Any one of those three would have explained it ;) |
| 19:29.37 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sure it's in a news post somewhere; wasn't complaining :P |
| 19:31.01 | Shirik|Ecole | the cool thing is that we can create an underwater sulf-sustaining environment |
| 19:31.26 | Shirik|Ecole | the bad thing is I couldn't imagine breathing such air.... nor would I argue that such an action is entirely "healthy" |
| 19:31.53 | sysrage | i think you'd probably breath it if your only other choice was death |
| 19:32.12 | Shirik|Ecole | I think I wouldn't go to an underwater city anytime soon >< |
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| 19:40.24 | planetWayne | guys - having a thick with string.format, want to return a string that was a number that is fixed to 2 numeric places. eg 00 or 01 or 02... what would be the correct formatting string? |
| 19:42.22 | planetWayne | ah - got it :)) |
| 19:42.25 | planetWayne | (i think) |
| 19:45.02 | planetWayne | ok - maybe i didnt. |
| 19:49.40 | Eternally777 | Why two places? |
| 19:51.18 | Shirik|Ecole | string.format("%0.2f", number); |
| 19:51.25 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 19:51.29 | Shirik|Ecole | you mean like padded with 0s? |
| 19:51.36 | Tem | >>> string.format(%0d",1) |
| 19:51.36 | Cide | Tem: [string "string.format(%0d",1)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '%' |
| 19:51.42 | Shirik|Ecole | string.format("%02d", number); |
| 19:51.44 | Tem | >>> string.format("%0d",1) |
| 19:51.44 | Cide | Tem: "1" |
| 19:51.49 | Tem | >>> string.format("%02d",1) |
| 19:51.49 | Shirik|Ecole | 02 ;) |
| 19:51.49 | Cide | Tem: "01" |
| 19:51.55 | Tem | yeah, there we go |
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| 20:00.13 | pastamancer | >> string.format("%-02.2d", 1234) |
| 20:00.23 | pastamancer | >>> string.format("%-02.2d", 1234) |
| 20:00.23 | Cide | pastamancer: "1234" |
| 20:00.38 | pastamancer | oh, I guess %d doesn't let you truncate like %s does |
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| 20:05.16 | Gnarfoz_ | it let's you format |
| 20:05.21 | Gnarfoz_ | in some way at least |
| 20:07.09 | zenzelezz | >>> string.format("%-02.2d", 1234.56) |
| 20:07.10 | Cide | zenzelezz: "1234" |
| 20:08.58 | JoshBorke | >>> local t = {'a', 'b', 'c'}; repeat k, v = next(t, k) str = (str or '')..tostring(v) if (v == 'b') then stop = true end; until (stop or not k) |
| 20:08.58 | Cide | JoshBorke: nil |
| 20:09.47 | JoshBorke | >>> local k = nil; local t = {'a', 'b', 'c'}; repeat k, v = next(t, k) str = (str or '')..tostring(v) if (v == 'b') then stop = true end; until not k |
| 20:09.48 | Cide | JoshBorke: nil |
| 20:09.51 | JoshBorke | oh yea |
| 20:09.59 | JoshBorke | >>> local t = {'a', 'b', 'c'}; repeat k, v = next(t, k) str = (str or '')..tostring(v) if (v == 'b') then stop = true end; until (stop or not k); print(str) |
| 20:09.59 | Cide | JoshBorke: "ab" |
| 20:11.30 | leethal | Illhoof sucks |
| 20:12.23 | zenzelezz | only for a few more weeks |
| 20:12.31 | zenzelezz | then he truly sucks, but not in the same way |
| 20:13.11 | leethal | ah, cool |
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| 20:20.14 | Eternally777 | Three whispers advertising the same gold-selling website in less than 2 minutes... |
| 20:21.38 | leethal | blizz should get a spam filter |
| 20:22.01 | leethal | something that goes "spam detected => put that player on the ignore list for the entire session => send a message to everyone on the server to put that person on the ignore list" |
| 20:22.56 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 20:22.57 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 20:22.59 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what we need |
| 20:23.08 | Shirik|Ecole | spam the system messages with "Please ignore _____" |
| 20:23.36 | Shirik|Ecole | oh you mean like an internal message |
| 20:23.40 | Shirik|Ecole | so that it auto-ignores |
| 20:23.40 | leethal | that's what my addon does, but it's no use as everyone need to have it for it to be useful |
| 20:23.42 | leethal | yeah |
| 20:23.46 | Shirik|Ecole | ok |
| 20:26.56 | sysrage | i figure blizz really doesn't have anything against the spammers. it would take 30 seconds to add a filter into the chat system to detect if more than a couple messages go out in 15 seconds that contain a URL and a $ |
| 20:27.39 | Eternally777 | I thought I read they're implementing whisper throttling in 2.1, and that's why they're giving authors a hidden whisper channel for addons. |
| 20:28.16 | sysrage | whisper throttling won't help all that much by itself. spammers will just code their bots to work around the throttle |
| 20:28.35 | Eternally777 | And they'd just code their bots to work around the URL restrictions :-P |
| 20:29.10 | kergoth | <3 spamsentry |
| 20:29.24 | leethal | hire google or something |
| 20:29.29 | leethal | gmail has ftw spamfilter |
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| 20:34.37 | zenzelezz | not fool proof |
| 20:36.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, fantastic bug on the ptr |
| 20:36.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | shapeshifting crashes wow occasionally |
| 20:36.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | hopefully that'll get fixed before release :p |
| 20:37.07 | zenzelezz | no no, that's so druids won't be so overpowered |
| 20:37.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 20:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | some guy was like |
| 20:37.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | "hey, how much AP do you have?" |
| 20:37.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | "one sec, lemme see" *hit numpad 3 for cat form* *windows bonk* |
| 20:42.13 | nevcairiel | i didnt have that yet |
| 20:42.15 | nevcairiel | the crash |
| 20:43.45 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies: do you have any addons installed? There was a while back when a couple addons did that. NaturalShapeshifter was one. Some others did it that you wouldn't expect though, like Flexbar |
| 20:43.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 20:44.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just a bug on the ptr |
| 20:44.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | happens from time to time, no big deal though |
| 20:45.08 | zenzelezz | "CR" "moment" |
| 20:45.13 | zenzelezz | Raybees has gone offline. |
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| 20:46.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm confused now |
| 20:47.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | one of my 6 or 7 copies of my char on the ptr is cupomangel |
| 20:47.37 | zenzelezz | yes? |
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| 20:50.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm confusd as to what this means |
| 20:50.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | <zenzelezz> "CR" "moment" |
| 20:50.45 | zenzelezz | combat res |
| 20:50.57 | Shirik | oh I remember that |
| 20:50.59 | Shirik | fun |
| 20:51.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhh |
| 20:51.11 | Shirik | oh wait no that was RF |
| 20:51.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, how do i do this with a macro |
| 20:52.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | if nocombat, nostance, and flyable, cast flight form |
| 20:52.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | if combat and nostance, cast travel form |
| 20:52.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'll do /cancelform [stance] otherwise |
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| 20:56.08 | Shirik | then: /cast [nocombat,nostance,flyable] Flight Form; [combat,nostance] Travelform /stopmacro [nocombat,nostance,flyable] /stopmacro [combat,nostance] /cancelform [stance] |
| 20:56.16 | Shirik | but that last part isn't entirely logical |
| 20:56.49 | Shirik | what if you're out of combat and not flyable? |
| 20:56.51 | Shirik | do nothing? |
| 20:57.05 | Shirik | (and nostance) |
| 20:57.19 | Kirkburn | Little bit of news - http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/19/no-video-games-found-in-vt-shooters-dorm/ |
| 20:57.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | out of combat and not flyable, travel form |
| 20:57.47 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh, you're right |
| 20:57.49 | Shirik | no tetris?! |
| 20:58.06 | Shirik | his lack of tetris is obviously what made him go crazy |
| 20:58.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually wait |
| 20:58.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can cast my mount |
| 20:58.12 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: the sad thing is that will have no effect on Jack Thompson et al. |
| 20:58.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | out of combat and not flyable i guess |
| 20:58.19 | zenzelezz | "he could have played with friends" |
| 20:58.20 | Shirik | zenzelezz: so true |
| 20:58.33 | Shirik | ok, so, Mr_Rabies, what you really want |
| 20:59.02 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, unfortunately true :/ |
| 20:59.05 | Shirik | is /cast [nocombat,nostance,flyable] Flight Form; [nostance] Travel Form /cancelform [stance] |
| 20:59.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | well actually |
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| 21:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast [nocombat,nostance,flyable] Flight Form; [combat,nostance]Travel Form; [nocombat,noflyable,nostance] Black War Steed Bridle | /cancelform [stance] | /dismount [mounted] |
| 21:00.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a [mounted] |
| 21:00.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 21:00.56 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:01.27 | subbawt | Hmm wow just almost completely locked up on me, but i managed to click force garbage collection and it completely fixed it |
| 21:01.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | omg :O |
| 21:01.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hit the button once |
| 21:01.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it dismounts me then casts flight form instantly |
| 21:01.47 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 21:01.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | on one cast |
| 21:01.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | er button press |
| 21:01.56 | Guillotine | whoa |
| 21:01.59 | Shirik | if you were to click flight form |
| 21:02.01 | Shirik | while mounted |
| 21:02.04 | Shirik | does it do the same? |
| 21:02.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno lemme see |
| 21:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, yep, i guess that's new |
| 21:02.35 | Guillotine | whoa, you can go directly from mount to flight form? |
| 21:02.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | from the dismount on casting stuff you can't option |
| 21:02.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 21:02.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i messed that sentence up bad |
| 21:02.50 | Guillotine | what about mount-> bear? |
| 21:02.51 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:02.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | from the dismount on casting stuff in the options |
| 21:03.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, straight from mounted to bear too |
| 21:03.23 | Guillotine | awesome |
| 21:03.25 | Guillotine | that helps in pvp |
| 21:03.34 | Guillotine | especially mount-> instant cat -> stealth |
| 21:03.35 | Shirik | yey for druid opness |
| 21:03.46 | Shirik | stealth mounts lol |
| 21:03.51 | TC_Working | does it work the other way around? selecting mount while in shapesift form? |
| 21:04.09 | Tem | no |
| 21:04.15 | Guillotine | actually, that just made mounts better than flight form again |
| 21:04.29 | Guillotine | with flight form theres a 1.5 second time inbetween changing, not so with mounts |
| 21:04.34 | Tem | as they should be imo |
| 21:04.45 | Guillotine | as long as its consistent |
| 21:04.56 | Guillotine | but it shouldn't be one way with one and another way with another |
| 21:05.04 | Tem | flight form isn't a mount |
| 21:05.06 | Tem | it's a shapeshift |
| 21:05.17 | planetWayne | what returns your current character name? (cant see it on the wiki) |
| 21:05.18 | Tem | it works like that for ALL shapeshifts |
| 21:05.24 | Tem | so don't bitch about consistency |
| 21:05.27 | Shirik | planetWayne: UnitName("player") |
| 21:05.54 | planetWayne | doh - helps if you know what the name of the thing is your looking for I guesS :) cheers |
| 21:06.05 | Tem | it works like that for warrior stances, rogue stealth, shadowform, and ghost wolf |
| 21:06.26 | foxlit | <Guillotine> with flight form theres a 1.5 second time inbetween changing, not so with mounts |
| 21:06.31 | foxlit | GCD on shapeshifting? |
| 21:06.47 | foxlit | Or what did you mean? |
| 21:06.56 | zenzelezz | 1.5 seconds is still less than the cast time on mounts |
| 21:08.22 | Guillotine | zenzelzz: but the time it takes you to mount does't matter much. When you're being attacked, the time it takes to dismount and attack does matter |
| 21:08.31 | Scre3m | is there an ace addon that unlocks or modifies the enemy cast bar? |
| 21:08.37 | Scre3m | or non-ace |
| 21:08.55 | zenzelezz | unlocks? |
| 21:09.03 | Scre3m | like let's you move it around |
| 21:09.07 | Scre3m | resize it |
| 21:09.08 | Scre3m | etc |
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| 21:09.33 | Shirik | but in response to the question, not that I'm aware of, but |
| 21:09.44 | Shirik | I believe NaturEnemy Cast Bars creates new ones? |
| 21:09.45 | foxlit | Yay, let's drag a library in to do the work of five lines of code! :) |
| 21:09.47 | Shirik | not sure, haven't used them |
| 21:09.56 | Scre3m | i asked in the ace channel first, meant to rephrase it here |
| 21:10.16 | Scre3m | naut is too much, im looking for simpler |
| 21:10.20 | Scre3m | natur* |
| 21:10.51 | Guillotine | I'm using one that does that |
| 21:10.54 | Guillotine | hold on, let me find name |
| 21:11.27 | foxlit | Coded castingbars into my unitframes :/ |
| 21:11.38 | Guillotine | OminousCastingBar, and it is ace |
| 21:11.44 | Scre3m | ty |
| 21:11.47 | foxlit | Blizzard casting UI on PTR was a shock |
| 21:12.10 | Scre3m | how so? |
| 21:12.15 | Guillotine | how did it change? |
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| 21:13.32 | Scre3m | hrm, OmniousCastingbar uses candbar lib, i was hoping for something lighter |
| 21:13.48 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:13.55 | Shirik | you care about adding libraries but don't care about using ace? |
| 21:14.01 | Shirik | it sounds a bit hypocritical |
| 21:14.06 | Scre3m | in addition to ace |
| 21:14.35 | Scre3m | i'm not a developer, but i sense some contention lol |
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| 21:14.48 | Scre3m | i like ace because of the updated |
| 21:14.52 | Scre3m | updater* |
| 21:14.54 | Shirik | I think you're really overthinking the performance impact of this library |
| 21:15.04 | Scre3m | that is certainly possible |
| 21:15.40 | Scre3m | what i want is to simply move the cast bar, i don't really want to modify the behavior |
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| 21:17.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope someone takes advantage of the buff/debuff timer on targets for addons :O |
| 21:18.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'll make the stunwatch type addons so much more accurate |
| 21:18.17 | Shirik | Scre3m, don't get me wrong when I say this |
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| 21:19.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably more efficient too |
| 21:19.16 | Shirik | But if you're not a developer, specifically a developer familiar with Lua, you probably shouldn't think too heavily about performance. Unlike many other languages, addon "weight" is not directly related to its performance impact. |
| 21:19.24 | Shirik | And it's really difficult to tell performance without actually reading the code, in Lua |
| 21:19.34 | Shirik | or trying it out |
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| 21:20.50 | Bleeter | the funny thing about these 'performance' libs.. is that they inevitably run on a Windows or OSX kernel... kind of like getting a V12 engine and putting it inside a mini |
| 21:21.00 | Shirik | I'm not trying to degrade you in any manner, but I seriously think you're not giving OmniousCastingbar a fair chance, and simply discarding it because of the library that is included |
| 21:21.10 | Shirik | Bleeter: haha |
| 21:22.44 | Shirik | hi and bye clad|afk |
| 21:26.56 | Tem | not that it really matters, but CandyBar is one of the libs that was designed to use Ace |
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| 21:54.07 | Kirkburn | Anyone recognise the guy on the far right? http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l312/cptcomet/Heroes%20Chronicles/wrapupparty/2007_04_17_Heroes_S1_Wrap_15.jpg |
| 21:59.39 | JoshBorke | looks like house |
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| 21:59.46 | JoshBorke | wb bela |
| 22:00.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | <JoshBorke> looks like house |
| 22:00.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was gonna say that |
| 22:00.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 22:04.43 | TC_Working | Kirkburn, on the pinao? |
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| 22:04.48 | TC_Working | piano* |
| 22:05.03 | TC_Working | err..keyboard really... |
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| 22:05.16 | Tem|AFK | hmm, no, but he does look familliar |
| 22:05.30 | Kirkburn | Yup, House :D |
| 22:05.53 | Tem|AFK | is that wayne brady singing? |
| 22:05.59 | Kirkburn | Hugh Laurie ftw - "The pictures show many of the cast from Heroes, and also ‘Band From TV’ a band made up of Greg Grunberg who plays Matt in Heroes, Jamie Denton who is currently in Desperate Housewives, Hugh Laurie, who is huge in English television and has recently relocated to the USA for ‘House’, and Bob Guiney." (http://theheroeschronicles.soundzhosting.net/?p=348) |
| 22:06.04 | TC_Working | thasts what i thought Tem|AFK |
| 22:06.08 | TC_Working | thats* |
| 22:06.27 | pastamancer | haha |
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| 22:24.18 | Nerinia | >>> return {Umlaut="Test", ["Jäger"]="!"} |
| 22:24.19 | Cide | Nerinia: { ["Umlaut"] = "Test", ["J\195\164ger"] = "!" } (#1) |
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| 22:56.53 | Shirik | what's a "discovery" in alchemy? |
| 22:57.22 | zenzelezz | someone receiving a new recipe by chance through crafting |
| 22:57.33 | zenzelezz | stuff they can't learn anywhere except through the random chance |
| 22:57.45 | Shirik | didn't even know that exists |
| 22:57.47 | zenzelezz | like the new Flasks |
| 22:57.49 | Shirik | does it exist for all professions? |
| 22:57.59 | zenzelezz | only alchemy as far as I know |
| 22:58.04 | Shirik | ah |
| 22:58.42 | zenzelezz | it's funky, if you make one it broadcasts an AoE message so that everyone around you will know :-o |
| 22:59.02 | Shirik | heh really? |
| 22:59.07 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 22:59.12 | Hallu | it should also do 5000 damage to everyone around you |
| 22:59.14 | zenzelezz | saw it once outside the Aldor bank in Shattrath |
| 23:00.15 | TC_Working | heh, basicly the message is saying "Look, i'm better than you because i have something you dont" |
| 23:00.37 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:01.31 | TC_Working | great, now blizzard even does your egotistical things for you...like there wasnt enough already |
| 23:01.38 | Shirik | lol: "Fixed a grammatical error in the quest, "The Ring of Mmmrrrggglll". " |
| 23:01.42 | Shirik | no comment... |
| 23:01.53 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 23:02.26 | TC_Working | whats next blizzard, swelled head graphical charicters |
| 23:08.29 | Eternally777 | How do I change the default loot system used when I create a raid? |
| 23:10.39 | Eternally777 | Whenever I form a raid, the loot system automatically switches to Master Looter and it's quite annoying. |
| 23:10.57 | TC_Working | hahaha, humping snails http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53556928/ |
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| 23:34.57 | foxlit | Eternally777: Running CT_RaidAssist? |
| 23:34.57 | foxlit | If memory serves, that previously had a default loot type dropdown, not sure if that was superceeded by some blizzard function. |
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