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| 01:48.40 | Corrodias | i'm still psyched that we finally killed the maiden |
| 01:49.01 | Corrodias | after 2 attempts at 7% i was getting irritated |
| 02:08.15 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's funny |
| 02:08.33 | ScytheBlade1 | All of my addons are so simple, that minor things like 2.0 didn't break them |
| 02:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And I can post a 2.1 version now, from the original 1.12 code |
| 02:08.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That still works |
| 02:11.31 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah, thanks |
| 02:13.45 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
| 02:15.18 | sysrage | corrodia: MAIDEN IS A WHORE |
| 02:15.37 | Corrodias | a TITAN WHORE |
| 02:15.49 | sysrage | curator is worse though |
| 02:16.07 | Corrodias | xperl is busted in 2.1, but i think the creator may have said it might be due to a blizzard bug |
| 02:16.12 | Corrodias | i must check again |
| 02:16.15 | sysrage | nooooo! |
| 02:16.24 | sysrage | i hope it gets fixed. i need my x-perl |
| 02:17.51 | Corrodias | "I didn't get any crashes in the PTR but I did get a "Blocked by Blizzard" and a request to disable X-Perl when I tried to click on a unit frame." |
| 02:18.08 | Corrodias | reply: "That was previous version of WoW, which was bugged. The current version is bugged too. -- But yeah, turn off 3D portraits for now (before you target anything)." |
| 02:18.19 | sysrage | oh good. i don't use 3d portraits |
| 02:20.00 | Corrodias | "The main bug on the PTR is due to a fault in the API (SecureStateDriver.lua, line 133) references 'frame' which should be 'self'. X-Perl won't work till they fix that." |
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| 03:02.12 | evulhotdog | #wowi-lounge |
| 03:02.16 | evulhotdog | hi |
| 03:02.32 | evulhotdog | anybody here? |
| 03:02.49 | Cide | apparently not |
| 03:02.57 | evulhotdog | XD i need some UI help. |
| 03:03.34 | evulhotdog | anybody here know LUA? |
| 03:03.45 | evulhotdog | that wants to help me? >.> |
| 03:04.14 | Gryphen | nobody can help without knowing the question |
| 03:05.41 | evulhotdog | well i want to make an addon that will respond to questions and the person whispering to me will use numbers and such |
| 03:06.33 | evulhotdog | that help you? |
| 03:08.58 | evulhotdog | excuse me >.< |
| 03:10.44 | Gryphen | the wiki has a lot of information about creating addons |
| 03:10.59 | evulhotdog | im trying to get to wow ui designer... |
| 03:11.04 | evulhotdog | to use* |
| 03:11.11 | evulhotdog | but ill take a look at the wiki |
| 03:17.00 | Cide | do you know lua? |
| 03:17.43 | Cide | evulhotdog: do you know lua? |
| 03:18.11 | evulhotdog | no... |
| 03:18.14 | evulhotdog | im trying to learn.. |
| 03:18.19 | Cide | then www.lua.org/pil |
| 03:18.24 | evulhotdog | ^^ |
| 03:18.58 | Cide | read and *understand* chapters 1-7, 11 and 14 |
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| 03:19.01 | Cide | before you start working on addons |
| 03:20.07 | evulhotdog | seems intense. XD |
| 03:20.26 | Cide | do you want to code an addon? |
| 03:20.32 | Cide | or do you want us to write it for you? |
| 03:22.16 | evulhotdog | uhh |
| 03:22.22 | evulhotdog | well it would be nice to have it... |
| 03:22.31 | evulhotdog | i dont know if you would code it for my purpose |
| 03:22.39 | evulhotdog | and i dont really want to say it in public >.> |
| 03:23.23 | evulhotdog | can you contact me on any instant messenger? |
| 03:23.30 | Cide | this is a help channel |
| 03:23.34 | Cide | not a coding service |
| 03:23.48 | Cide | this is where you come if you want help with coding an addon |
| 03:24.01 | Cide | if you want to code an addon, learn lua and do it yourself -- we'll help you if you get stuck |
| 03:24.27 | Cide | if you want someone to do it for you, perhaps you should specify how much you're willing to pay |
| 03:24.48 | evulhotdog | i thought you meant you were willing to code it for me =/ sorry about the misinterpretation. |
| 03:25.10 | Cide | I asked what you wanted |
| 03:25.17 | Cide | why you came to this channel |
| 03:25.29 | evulhotdog | i was looking for help O.o |
| 03:25.33 | evulhotdog | and i got it ^^ |
| 03:25.40 | Cide | good |
| 03:25.58 | Cide | have a good night, I'm off to bed |
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| 04:06.57 | JunkHead | Hello. |
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| 04:22.52 | cogwheel | hi |
| 04:22.59 | Cairenn | hi |
| 04:23.04 | JoshBorke | hallo |
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| 04:52.36 | JoshBorke | kergoth: sorry, ran out of time today. will fix loottracker tomorrow. might want to post a bug reminder for me, in case i forget |
| 04:52.44 | JunkHead | Well, my guild finally got a guild run of Kara going tonight. |
| 04:52.50 | JunkHead | Only picked up 1 pugger. |
| 04:53.06 | JunkHead | Let's just say, it didn't go as planned. |
| 05:02.03 | Tem | WHY WHY WHY does alliance never win in EotS? |
| 05:03.08 | Tem | it always ends up with horde controlling all 4 nodes camping the start point |
| 05:03.15 | Tem | with one guy running the flag back and forth |
| 05:05.01 | cladhaire | we always lose in my battlegroup |
| 05:06.15 | Tem | I haven't seen a score better than 300 to 2000 |
| 05:06.21 | Tem | and I have 23 marks |
| 05:06.27 | Tem | (none from victories |
| 05:12.01 | Cairenn | unwritten rule? |
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| 05:16.04 | Shadowed | Because they're idiots who try and zerg 4 nodes at once |
| 05:19.09 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 05:19.18 | Thunder_Child | widows is crashing :( |
| 05:19.28 | JunkHead | poor widows. |
| 05:19.50 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 05:19.54 | JunkHead | :P |
| 05:20.17 | Thunder_Child | :p yourself |
| 05:24.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | 70 demo lock with untrained (after 60 i think) succubus in my group |
| 05:24.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
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| 05:27.09 | Tem | well, it seems that in the wake of losing EotS all the time, Alliance learned how to play in AB |
| 05:27.11 | Tem | amazing |
| 05:27.24 | Tem | ah, nevermind |
| 05:27.44 | clad|sleep | i should transfer to your battlegroup =) |
| 05:28.37 | Tem | and I should transfer to yours |
| 05:42.08 | Tem | nerf rogues |
| 05:48.00 | Tem | lol @ warriors who kill themselves on molten armor |
| 05:48.32 | cogwheel | sounds like something i'd do... |
| 05:49.26 | Shadowed | i hate molten armor |
| 05:49.30 | Shadowed | it's stupid how i kill myself on it as daggers |
| 05:49.32 | Shadowed | or get stun locked |
| 05:50.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | molten armor tears me up |
| 05:50.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's better than that stupid chilled effect |
| 05:50.51 | Gngsk | have your friendly neighborhood shaman/priest remove it! |
| 05:50.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i roll with a mage |
| 05:51.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | she's not particularly good though |
| 05:51.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | forgets to sheep a lot |
| 05:52.22 | JunkHead | I finally got my mage to Outland today:) |
| 05:52.36 | Tem | I'm so sick of losing |
| 05:52.50 | Tem | it's been nothing but losses since I got back from work |
| 05:53.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do pretty good these days |
| 05:53.36 | Shadowed | stop pugging |
| 05:53.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | despite having crap for hp |
| 05:53.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~6600 |
| 05:54.00 | Shadowed | all I do in battlegrounds at this point is afk and work on addons |
| 05:54.34 | Tem | Shadowed, I'm 66 |
| 05:54.41 | Tem | I don't really have a choice |
| 05:54.48 | Shadowed | well go hit 70 |
| 05:54.58 | Shadowed | once you hit 67-68 you can hit netherstorm which is easy XP |
| 05:55.13 | Tem | not if you're a caster |
| 05:55.17 | Tem | everything in that zone has a mana drain |
| 05:55.28 | Shadowed | oh yeah |
| 05:55.33 | Shadowed | silly mana users |
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| 06:00.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Awesome, WoWWiki died. |
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| 06:07.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything past zangarmarsh has like, plate mitigation, so it's not much easier on us :[ |
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| 06:43.55 | Shadowed | Zangarmarsh was easy |
| 06:50.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | past :p |
| 06:50.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | nagrand is about mail level mitigation unless it's casters, those are generally about leather level |
| 06:51.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then once you hit terokkar, your dps starts tapering way down :[ |
| 06:51.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | by the time you hit shadowmoon like everything mitigates at least half of your damage |
| 06:51.59 | Shadowed | everything past zangarmarsh was easy too |
| 06:52.11 | Shadowed | it's just after zangarmarsh you notice that your gear wasn't as good anymore |
| 06:53.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | in shadowmoon, things will commonly take off half my health bar before i kill them :[ |
| 06:53.13 | Shadowed | I skipped SMV didn't need it |
| 06:53.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did SMV before netherstorm |
| 06:53.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i'm finished with netherstorm and SMV |
| 06:53.30 | Shadowed | lesse if i remember right |
| 06:53.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing to do but instance |
| 06:54.11 | Shadowed | 58 -> 61 HFP, 61 -> 62.5 Zangarmarsh, 62.5 -> 64 Terokkar, 64 - 66 Nagrand, 67 BEM, 67 -> 70 Netherstorm |
| 06:55.57 | Tem | I'm 66 |
| 06:56.04 | Tem | I did all of HFP |
| 06:56.10 | Tem | and all of the marsh |
| 06:56.12 | Tem | and that's it |
| 06:56.21 | Tem | actually, I still have quests in the marsh |
| 06:56.35 | Shadowed | I did every quest in HFP, Zangmarsh and Terokkar minus like two group quests |
| 06:59.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've done every quest in every zone that doesn't involve an instance :x |
| 07:00.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm down to like 5 quests other than ones i haven't accepted because they involve heroics |
| 07:00.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was the same way on azeroth though |
| 07:00.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i burn through quests fast |
| 07:00.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i love questing, hate grinding |
| 07:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did every possible quest on azeroth on my druid i think |
| 07:00.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish there was a way to see |
| 07:02.36 | Tem | oh, Shadowed, I had full rest |
| 07:03.19 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 07:03.21 | Shadowed | thats cheating :p |
| 07:03.34 | Guillotine | anybody know anything about LuaSocket? |
| 07:03.34 | Shadowed | sleep time |
| 07:03.37 | Tem|Food | food tyme |
| 07:04.52 | Tem|Food | oh damnit |
| 07:04.54 | Tem|Food | it's 2 am |
| 07:04.59 | Tem|Food | the bars just closed |
| 07:05.05 | Tem|Food | getting food is going to be _hell_ |
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| 07:22.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | we've got waffle house for that specific reason |
| 07:22.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | right around midnight that place turns into the best food ever |
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| 07:36.58 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i have sofar gone from 300 fonts or so to 10K fonts |
| 07:38.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap |
| 07:39.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | in \windows\fonts? |
| 07:41.08 | Crache\__ | i got a bit annoyed when i had 12000+ fonts installed |
| 07:41.42 | Crache\__ | so i categorized all the shit into folders by style and keep a minimal set installed, and if i need something i'll get it on demand |
| 07:42.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | if he's using windows, it must take him like a week to load windows |
| 07:43.24 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 07:43.38 | Thunder_Child | though vista has a slightly better way of doing it |
| 07:46.27 | Thunder_Child | hmm...make that 11K+ and counting |
| 07:48.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | *cry |
| 07:49.14 | Thunder_Child | heh, i am getting tired though, i waill have to finish the rest of them later today though |
| 07:49.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have 317 |
| 07:49.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i think thats too many |
| 07:49.49 | Thunder_Child | well, i wanted one kind of font for something i am working on and it kinda grew into something more |
| 07:50.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think photoshop would commit suicide if i did that |
| 07:51.28 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 07:53.37 | Thunder_Child | well CS3 seems to deal with all of them fairly quickly |
| 07:54.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still using cs2 |
| 07:54.27 | Thunder_Child | although photoshop did just freze when i selected the text button |
| 07:54.52 | Thunder_Child | but that might have to do with the fact that i have the import fonts menu still open and active |
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| 08:04.41 | Thunder_Child | ok, sleep tie for me (and it's about damn time to) night all |
| 08:04.46 | Thunder_Child | s/tie/time/ |
| 08:06.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | night |
| 08:18.29 | Bleeter | warcraft visa, eh? sheesh |
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| 09:28.52 | Tem|Food | oh god it's happening |
| 09:29.01 | Tem|Food | a wowi admin needs to ban me quickly |
| 09:29.06 | Tem|Food | I will post soon |
| 09:30.38 | zenzelezz | what's the world coming to? :-| |
| 09:30.54 | Tem|Food | perhaps the oPlague will take my mind off of how much I hate him |
| 09:31.12 | zenzelezz | hate who? |
| 09:31.49 | oTem | I need a way to just hide that entire sub forum |
| 09:32.00 | oTem | every time I read a thread in it, it pisses me off |
| 09:33.41 | zenzelezz | which forum? |
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| 10:34.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder why |
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| 11:49.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that was the fastest i've ever seen 5000g disappear |
| 11:49.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think i could make it go faster by offering it for free in ironforge :[ |
| 11:50.07 | nevcairiel | you think? |
| 11:50.23 | nevcairiel | does the time you need to travel to smv count? |
| 11:50.27 | Vangual | just get on a ptr, have people asking you to loan them 5kg every other minute |
| 11:50.50 | Vangual | lend* |
| 11:51.47 | Vangual | mixed between people offering to exchange account data. :( |
| 11:56.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just copied my guy....6 times |
| 11:56.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, 3 from last ptr |
| 11:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 this one, heh |
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| 12:47.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, kwee q peddlefeet is still around on my server |
| 12:47.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
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| 13:17.26 | foxlit | Neat stuff: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/95/14 |
| 13:29.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm honestly surprised addon author burnout doesn't happen more often |
| 13:30.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | the combination of them constantly breaking my stuff and having to deal with the stupid userbase of wow would make me punch puppies |
| 13:39.17 | foxlit | Any easy to get to level-approrpiate 70 mobs that poison or curse you on some regular basis? |
| 13:41.51 | foxlit | Blizzard Downloader's endgame mode sucks :/ |
| 13:42.18 | foxlit | 10.5/11 MB in ~30 seconds, then 0 KB/s for another 5 minutes :/ |
| 13:43.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ummmm, i think the nether rays in SMV do |
| 13:43.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the southwest edge, near the netherwing ledge, on the mainland part closest to the ledge |
| 13:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if they're 70, but they're close if not |
| 13:43.54 | foxlit | Just as long as they can poison a level 70 character :) |
| 13:45.53 | foxlit | They really should tweak this -- refuses to requests fragments of one peice from more than one source; floors the transfer rate to obscenity |
| 13:47.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the larger stuff i use azureus generally if the patcher gives me problems |
| 13:47.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it really hasn't recently though |
| 13:47.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | my only problem is it maxes out my upload |
| 13:47.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | which kills my DL |
| 14:03.16 | foxlit | Can't you limit the up/down rates? |
| 14:08.51 | foxlit | Hah. |
| 14:08.51 | foxlit | I wondered why my bindings.xml was being ignored. |
| 14:08.51 | foxlit | Turns out, bindings with no inner code in them do nothing. |
| 14:09.24 | foxlit | So even if I plan to re-map them in-game and only use the .xml for Blizzard UI to be able to set my hotkeys, I still need dummy code in them. |
| 14:14.14 | foxlit | Hm, and they haven't patched the hole that makes decursive viable <3 |
| 14:19.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 14:19.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just -killed- a servant of allistarj |
| 14:25.34 | Gngsk | nerf druids imo |
| 14:25.56 | foxlit | Hm, they made skinning faster |
| 14:26.36 | Gngsk | clearly a much needed profession change |
| 14:26.58 | foxlit | Yeah! |
| 14:27.07 | foxlit | Those 1s / clefthoof make all the difference in the world |
| 14:28.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been beating up this servant for about 15 minutes and he's not dead yet, but the last one died in about this time @_@ |
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| 14:29.46 | nevcairiel | i kited one of those through all azeroth once |
| 14:29.48 | nevcairiel | for fun |
| 14:29.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think they autoleash now |
| 14:30.04 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 14:30.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i saw some screens of a guy who kited doras (the wind rider master in org) to silithus |
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| 14:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know a good mob to level up weapons on in outland? this servant doesn't seem to be leveling me up much anymore |
| 14:34.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | any level 67ish mobs that don't attack or go almost immune like the servants? |
| 14:36.57 | JunkHead | I used 64 mobs. |
| 14:37.06 | JunkHead | In the north part of the bone wastes. |
| 14:37.19 | JunkHead | The little tree guys. They heal themselves at 75% or so. |
| 14:42.06 | Gnarfoz | wasn't the level of the mob irrelevant to leveling up weapons? |
| 14:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure that weapon skill/5 is the ideal level |
| 14:43.44 | JunkHead | It can still be done on lower monsters, takes longer though of course. |
| 14:45.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm at 341 staves |
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| 15:02.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess i'm gonna grind these spider dudes |
| 15:02.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | in bone wastes |
| 15:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i need their silk for bags |
| 15:02.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus i can level up weapon skill on them using lifebloom |
| 15:02.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | and melee |
| 15:02.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
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| 15:05.58 | zenzelezz | bah... looks like some part of my mini-ITX died while I was in the process of reinstalling Slackware :-| |
| 15:09.24 | haste | people still use slackware :o |
| 15:11.03 | zenzelezz | I've never used any other, and I see no reason to =) |
| 15:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha thanks for suggesting these treants junk |
| 15:15.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | their cooldown for regrowth is longer than it takes for me to get them to 70% |
| 15:15.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | so they heal to 95%, the dot heals them as i dps them, then they get back to 70% and heal again |
| 15:15.25 | JunkHead | Yup. |
| 15:15.32 | JunkHead | I beat on them as a paladin. |
| 15:15.40 | JunkHead | took me forever to get them down to 70% |
| 15:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm feral, but i'm in healing gear |
| 15:16.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | for int |
| 15:16.23 | JunkHead | Ah, I went to goldshire and bought weapons for like, 4s each and used those. |
| 15:16.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and i'm doing this because i'm tired of looking at my weapon skill |
| 15:16.32 | JunkHead | that helps also. |
| 15:16.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, haha |
| 15:16.42 | JunkHead | I did all of mine out of sheer boredom. |
| 15:16.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm tired of looking at mine as 312 when it's really 362 |
| 15:17.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | because going into forms gives you max skill |
| 15:17.29 | JunkHead | I don't know much about Druids. |
| 15:19.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | know that a druid in healing gear is the most laughable thing ever |
| 15:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm meleeing for 177 |
| 15:20.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | with a 122-222 dps weap |
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| 15:20.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 15:20.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | dmg |
| 15:21.05 | JunkHead | I hit for ~110 each hit on my paladin. |
| 15:21.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.8 speed |
| 15:21.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2h |
| 15:21.29 | JunkHead | Let me see what mine's speed is. |
| 15:21.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | also have 2200 armor hehe |
| 15:21.59 | JunkHead | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Sinessa |
| 15:22.07 | JunkHead | 1.8 speed. |
| 15:22.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh, my base dps is 95 |
| 15:22.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | in this gear |
| 15:23.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | 348 gogogogo |
| 15:26.07 | JunkHead | Well, My paladin is human. So for 2-3 skills I had to grind up to 355. |
| 15:26.15 | JunkHead | I couldn't even be done at 350.:( |
| 15:27.48 | JunkHead | What mod can I use to change my minimap and move it around? |
| 15:27.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | change it? |
| 15:27.59 | JunkHead | I got simpleminimap but when I resize it it crashed my WoW. |
| 15:28.06 | JunkHead | Change the shape and stuff. |
| 15:28.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i dunno |
| 15:28.23 | JunkHead | Smm works fine until I change scale. |
| 15:28.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i use visor for moving frames around |
| 15:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | and rescaling |
| 15:28.41 | JunkHead | Hmm... ok. |
| 15:30.14 | JunkHead | I guess we'll be trying Kara again tonight. |
| 15:30.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | never been |
| 15:30.42 | Thrae | JunkHead: I know she'll go out with you this time! Just have faith! |
| 15:30.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to |
| 15:30.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha |
| 15:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | so my gear is at 60% |
| 15:30.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | an |
| 15:30.55 | JunkHead | Thrae - Thanks man, she has nice boobs. |
| 15:31.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and, i haven't died |
| 15:31.36 | JunkHead | Well, we finally did an official guild run to Karazhan last night. |
| 15:31.45 | JunkHead | We picked up one pugger. |
| 15:31.55 | JunkHead | It was, less than stellar. |
| 15:32.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 349 |
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| 15:48.01 | Jumpee | Does "IsSpellInRange" require that a spell be on an action button or just be in the spell book to return a 1? |
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| 15:51.12 | clad|sleep | it can take a name |
| 15:51.55 | Jumpee | clad|sleep, Yes but does it only need to be in the spell book or on an action bar? |
| 15:52.14 | nevcairiel | spell book is fine |
| 15:52.31 | nevcairiel | thats what that function is for |
| 15:52.31 | Jumpee | Ok, that is how I read it |
| 15:57.45 | cladhaire | it doesn't need to be anywhere |
| 15:57.49 | cladhaire | you can pass it any text |
| 15:57.56 | cladhaire | and it will tell you if that spell is in range of the unit |
| 15:58.13 | cladhaire | in order to WORK, the spell has to be known by the player tho :P |
| 15:58.37 | Jumpee | That is what I thought |
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| 16:21.45 | o_shannon | hello together. can somebody help me please? ive got the minimap problem ... |
| 16:23.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | kinda hard to tell if we can help if we don't know what all it entails :p |
| 16:25.38 | o_shannon | graphical errors when entering and indoor area like if.. |
| 16:27.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | does it seem like it's stretching occasionally? |
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| 16:33.48 | o_shannon | it kinda flares .. |
| 16:34.18 | o_shannon | could my wine version be to old? im using 0.9.24 |
| 16:58.14 | Kaydeethree | that's way too old... we're up to 0.9.36 |
| 16:59.09 | Thrae | Ooo, WoW version 9.0! It comez with tha lazerz. |
| 16:59.36 | o_shannon | im compiling 0.9.36 atm.. hope it works |
| 17:00.26 | Kaydeethree | nvidia or ati? |
| 17:00.50 | o_shannon | nvidia |
| 17:01.00 | Kaydeethree | playing in opengl mode? |
| 17:01.06 | o_shannon | sure |
| 17:01.20 | Kaydeethree | then the minimap problem's been fixed since at least .30 |
| 17:01.38 | o_shannon | with wine 0.9.36? |
| 17:01.41 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 17:01.45 | o_shannon | cool |
| 17:01.51 | Kaydeethree | did you make the registry key change? |
| 17:01.55 | o_shannon | yes |
| 17:02.15 | o_shannon | i did like the wowwiki said ;-) |
| 17:02.21 | Kaydeethree | then you're good to go |
| 17:03.24 | o_shannon | still compiling ... |
| 17:03.32 | Kaydeethree | it'll take a while |
| 17:03.54 | o_shannon | do i have to change that key again with the new version? |
| 17:04.16 | Kaydeethree | it changed around 0.9.32, but if you're following the wowwiki article you've got it in the proper spot |
| 17:08.43 | o_shannon | the other thing was when i started the game as normal user it didnt even start and there was a ram error .. as su it worked .. |
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| 17:34.01 | o_shannon | yes the minimap problems fixed.. but i have two cursors ingame now .. the wow cursor and my linux cursor.. how can that be fixed? |
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| 18:13.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope 2.1 hits tuesday :[ |
| 18:13.26 | nevcairiel | i hope too |
| 18:13.30 | nevcairiel | but i dont believe it |
| 18:13.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just got 300 riding |
| 18:13.53 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 18:13.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i don't want to go too long without epic flight form |
| 18:14.02 | nevcairiel | i got that like 2 weeks ago |
| 18:14.08 | nevcairiel | i tried doing the quest on PTR |
| 18:14.14 | nevcairiel | but i was too lazy |
| 18:14.15 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:14.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | same |
| 18:14.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i decided i didn't want to do it twice |
| 18:14.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i went ahead and gathered my 10 lichen and dreaming glory |
| 18:14.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | or rather partitioned off some of my herbs i already had |
| 18:14.48 | o_shannon | hello. ive got 2 cursors in wow .. the wow cursor and my linux cursor .. how can this problem be fixed????? |
| 18:15.00 | nevcairiel | i am herbalism anyway, and i have glory and lichen stored on toons for bad times, heh |
| 18:15.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry, i'm not a linux nerd, i can't help there :[ |
| 18:15.21 | nevcairiel | and now that glory is for mana potions .. good stuff :) |
| 18:15.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've only messed around on a friend's build of ubuntu, and haven't tried wow in wine yet |
| 18:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | beryl is pretty much the greatest thing ever invented though |
| 18:20.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ckknight: you alive? *poke poke* |
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| 18:54.03 | Kaydeethree | what the... it is gonna be "world of starcraft"!? |
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| 18:58.21 | sysrage | where the hell are all these people hearing this? |
| 18:58.37 | wereHamster | hearing what? |
| 18:58.53 | Kaydeethree | CVG got linked to on digg |
| 18:58.56 | sysrage | that starcraft mmo is the upcoming game blizz is going to announce |
| 18:59.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i highly highly doubt it |
| 18:59.08 | sysrage | it hasn't been announced, so i dunno why people believe it |
| 18:59.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | why would they compete with themselves |
| 18:59.23 | JoshBorke | i don't want a mmo sc :-( |
| 18:59.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | all it would do would be take away wow subscribers and put them in starcraft |
| 18:59.39 | Kaydeethree | because starcraft is the national sport of SK? a way to get a crapload of money from them? |
| 18:59.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i doubt it would bring in any more |
| 18:59.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | they already do through WoW :p |
| 19:00.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think blizzard is on its way to becoming a deity in korea |
| 19:00.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think they'd end up making more money through starcraft 2 than WoSC |
| 19:00.45 | cladhaire | agreed |
| 19:00.46 | cladhaire | 100% |
| 19:00.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | warcraft works because it has a rich story |
| 19:01.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it borrows heavily from diablo on game mechanics that didn't exist in wc3 |
| 19:01.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and real mmos in others |
| 19:01.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think that would work well with starcraft |
| 19:01.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe warhammer 40k |
| 19:01.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but starcraft? ehhh |
| 19:01.53 | cladhaire | starcraft as FPS or RTS works. |
| 19:01.54 | cladhaire | not MMO |
| 19:02.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe in 5 years |
| 19:02.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | they could make an MMOFPS |
| 19:02.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and learn from planetside's mistakes |
| 19:02.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but making a direct competitor to themselves now would be pretty wasteful |
| 19:02.41 | Cide | blizzard could do whatever they want and it'd end up awesome! |
| 19:02.43 | Cide | </fanboy> |
| 19:02.49 | sysrage | i'm amused that worthless cvg site just makes up announcements.. it's the national enquirer of computer gaming zines |
| 19:02.50 | Cide | but honestly though, they do know what they're doing |
| 19:03.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd be happy if they announced warcraft adventures :p |
| 19:03.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they could put it on xbox live arcade :D |
| 19:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd buy it |
| 19:03.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | even with the sub-par russian animation |
| 19:14.22 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: pong |
| 19:14.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | boing |
| 19:15.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was wondering how, if at all, pitbull gets enemy health |
| 19:15.07 | ckknight | they wouldn't call it World of Starcraft anyway |
| 19:15.20 | ckknight | I think the best name to go with it would be something like Starcraft Worlds |
| 19:15.28 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: MobHealth3 |
| 19:15.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, didn't see it anywhere in optional deps |
| 19:15.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | can i convert my mobinfo2 stuff over to mobhealth3? |
| 19:15.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i have a metric crapton of mobinfo2 stuff |
| 19:15.57 | foxlit | Does by default, I think |
| 19:16.06 | ckknight | no, foxlit |
| 19:16.06 | foxlit | mh3 tauts being able to recalculate stuff fast, though |
| 19:16.27 | ckknight | there's a compatibility layer that someone put up on the forums... |
| 19:17.13 | Corrodias | omg |
| 19:17.15 | Corrodias | pineapple rum |
| 19:17.17 | Corrodias | best thing EVER |
| 19:19.57 | ckknight | the addon name is MobInfo2, right? |
| 19:19.59 | ckknight | or what? |
| 19:20.46 | Vangual | yea |
| 19:21.16 | ckknight | where can I get the API docs for it? |
| 19:21.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | um, not sure, it's included in cosmos |
| 19:21.47 | Vangual | ReadMe_MobInfo_API.txt in its files |
| 19:21.55 | ckknight | somebody pastey it |
| 19:22.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | doing that |
| 19:23.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://wowi.pastey.net/22786 |
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| 19:42.35 | Arrowmaster | mobinfo2 just riped off mobhealth2 and included it |
| 19:44.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | pretty much |
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| 19:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think mobhealth2 was in limbo at the time though |
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| 19:49.28 | Iriel | Anyone here know much about windows vista? |
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| 19:50.26 | Corrodias | i've read some stuff about it. i have no experience with it, though. |
| 19:55.49 | Iriel | I'm having numerous problems with it |
| 19:55.59 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: willing to help test MobHealth2/MobInfo2 support |
| 19:56.00 | ckknight | ? |
| 19:56.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on what all that entails :p but sure if it doesn't require me to end up breaking something like i'm oh so prone to doing |
| 19:59.00 | ckknight | basically, it means you update DogTag-1.0 to r34546 |
| 19:59.03 | ckknight | and see if it works |
| 19:59.41 | Garoun | only that you'll be answering prompts until you keel over dead, Iriel |
| 19:59.56 | Garoun | unless you disable the security which defeats the whole purpose |
| 20:03.39 | Iriel | Garoun: UAC's already turned off |
| 20:04.16 | Iriel | Which I think really starts for 'Unceasing Annoying Confirmations' |
| 20:08.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | united aerospace corporation :x |
| 20:09.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | er union |
| 20:09.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, ckknight, how do i do so? it's not on the ace svn yet :O |
| 20:09.38 | ckknight | it's on the svn |
| 20:09.54 | ckknight | not on files yet, though |
| 20:10.05 | Garoun | :P |
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| 20:21.54 | ckknight | okay, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 20:21.58 | ckknight | it's up there |
| 20:22.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 20:22.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | just got it |
| 20:22.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 20:22.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems to be working fine |
| 20:23.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | testing out terokkar |
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| 20:23.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't seem to update in realtime, which i guess isn't a big deal |
| 20:24.03 | Guillotine | anybody know anything about using LuaSocket? |
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| 20:28.19 | Guillotine | nobody? :( It requires a library called "base", but that library exists in neither lua 5.x or in socket. And it doesn't actually seem to exist at all from what I see |
| 20:28.29 | Guillotine | at least, that seems like what its doing |
| 20:28.35 | Guillotine | base = require("base") |
| 20:28.52 | Vangual | mi2 support seems to work fine, mine updated in realtime |
| 20:29.30 | Vangual | that is, it went from "100" maxhp to two different guesstimated maxes on new mobs |
| 20:29.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 20:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine wouldn't update until i switched targets |
| 20:29.56 | Guillotine | hmm. mine updates in real time |
| 20:30.16 | Vangual | i might have mouseovered other targets but i didn't switch "target" |
| 20:30.48 | Vangual | however it didn't change on the mob it was fairly sure about, normal mi2 behaviour i think |
| 20:31.37 | Iriel | Guillotine: Did you follow the initialization it describes in this document: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~diego/professional/luasocket/ |
| 20:31.38 | Iriel | ? |
| 20:31.51 | Guillotine | sure did |
| 20:31.53 | Guillotine | to the letter |
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| 20:45.15 | Iriel | Guillotine: Works perfectly for me, let me check the docs are consistent |
| 20:45.49 | Guillotine | Iriel: are you using the binaries or compiling it yourself? It seems that only the binaries may have the error |
| 20:46.19 | Iriel | $ export LUA_PATH=~/contrib/luasocket-2.0.1/src/?.lua |
| 20:46.21 | Iriel | $ export LUA_CPATH=~/contrib/luasocket-2.0.1/src/?.so |
| 20:46.22 | Iriel | $ ~/contrib/lua-5.1.1/src/lua |
| 20:46.24 | Iriel | Lua 5.1.1 Copyright (C) 1994-2006 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 20:46.25 | Iriel | > socket = require("socket") |
| 20:46.27 | Iriel | > print(socket._VERSION) |
| 20:46.28 | Iriel | LuaSocket 2.0.1 |
| 20:46.30 | Iriel | Compiled it myself |
| 20:46.39 | Iriel | Make sure you get the right version for your version of lua (5.0 versus 5.1) |
| 20:48.58 | Guillotine | ah, figured it out. in the binary package, 2 of the files were put in the wrong place -_- |
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| 21:27.32 | Guillotine | (sorry, I'm new to the lua out of WoW), how would I iterate through lines in a file gotten off the web? Because it is not typed as a document, it doesn't have :lines() |
| 21:32.19 | Iriel | I dont know how it comes back to you |
| 21:33.29 | Tem | Guillotine, is it a file object? |
| 21:33.42 | Guillotine | no |
| 21:33.47 | Guillotine | sorry, I meant file, not document |
| 21:33.51 | Iriel | I think you either want to use a ltn12 file sink, or a ltn12 table sync |
| 21:34.40 | Iriel | Look for the ltn12 docs, specifically sink.table (ignore sync, typo of sink 8-)) |
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| 21:37.55 | foxlit | "A character with this name already exists" |
| 21:37.59 | foxlit | I really thought that one was fixed? |
| 21:38.08 | Guillotine | o.O so did I |
| 21:41.17 | foxlit | Haha, I'm stuck. |
| 21:42.10 | foxlit | Got an in-game clone that's still signed in even when I'm on another character. |
| 21:42.41 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 21:42.43 | Guillotine | go buff it |
| 21:43.01 | foxlit | It's a wisp |
| 21:44.48 | Kirkburn | Heh, a little bit of news: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/05/world-of-starcraft-information-leaked/ |
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| 22:01.10 | JoshBorke | i don't want a world of starcraft |
| 22:05.37 | Tem | I want another starcraft RTS |
| 22:05.41 | JoshBorke | exactly |
| 22:06.24 | ckknight | I was thinking about SC Ghost in MMO form |
| 22:06.24 | Tem | I have wow |
| 22:06.26 | Punkie` | well Warcraft IV < World of Warcraft in terms of profit :P |
| 22:06.27 | ckknight | or something along those lines |
| 22:06.29 | Tem | I don't need another mmo |
| 22:06.37 | Punkie` | so they're probably trying to do the same with SC |
| 22:06.40 | JoshBorke | i don't need or want another MMO |
| 22:09.55 | Vangual | mmo's seem to be pretty hip amongst producers atm tho, partly because it elimiinates all the losses to piracy i guess |
| 22:10.09 | sysrage | losses to piracy. what a joke |
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| 22:14.47 | ckknight | sysrage: why is it a joke? |
| 22:16.38 | sysrage | if the game is decent, the losses due to piracy are negligable (sp?).. people buy games if they're worth playing |
| 22:16.51 | ckknight | that's not always true |
| 22:17.06 | ckknight | there are people who pirate games if it's possible |
| 22:17.16 | ckknight | because it's easier than buying |
| 22:17.20 | ckknight | or has a lower ROI |
| 22:17.32 | ckknight | but they can't pirate WoW, so they'd buy it instead |
| 22:17.38 | ckknight | because the ROI is greater to just pay for WoW |
| 22:18.05 | sysrage | i understand it happens, i'm saying i don't believe it's enough to make a significant loss of income |
| 22:19.04 | iriel | I play pirated games when I'm not sure they're any good.. If I play them more than once I'll buy them, if they're awful I know I dont have to (Games with reasonable demos are an exception -- no need to find a pirated copy of those) |
| 22:19.36 | sysrage | iriel: exactly my point.. a worthwhile game, the majority of people end up buying it |
| 22:20.13 | Vangual | i know severeal people claiming that, so far i'm the only one of them actually shelling a buck out once it's on my disk and running |
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| 22:21.06 | iriel | I have regular reward coupons from best buy to back that up 8-) |
| 22:21.33 | Vangual | not implying wether you do it btw, i just know it from my collegues :) |
| 22:21.54 | iriel | It may depend on stage-of-life |
| 22:22.07 | iriel | When I was a starving student I couldn't afford to buy all the games I played |
| 22:22.11 | iriel | And I didn't |
| 22:22.18 | sysrage | what i think skews the numbers for 'losses due to piracy' is the number of people that would never play it at all if they didn't pirate it |
| 22:22.23 | sysrage | same with movies/music |
| 22:22.41 | Vangual | that's a good point |
| 22:22.45 | iriel | But it wasn't a choice between playing a pirated copy or buying it, it was a choice between playing a pirated copy (and evangelizing the game to others who MIGHT be able to afford it) and not playing it at all. |
| 22:22.51 | sysrage | it's not a loss if they never would have gotten the money in the first place. in fact it helps the publicity for the game |
| 22:32.20 | Kirkburn | What on earth you doing uncapitalised?! |
| 22:32.57 | Kirkburn | Phew, all is right with the world again |
| 22:34.56 | Shadowedd | So....is there a reason a texture created in XML, :GetTexture() returns "Solid Texture" and can be used, but if you create it using CreateTexture it returns nil and can't? |
| 22:35.49 | Iriel | I would imagine it depends how it was created (GetTexture only returns the internal one, I dont know if we know where it was created) |
| 22:36.10 | ckknight | sysrage: but what about the people who would buy it if they couldn't pirate? |
| 22:37.33 | Shadowedd | Iriel: http://wowi.pastey.net/22843 was how it's being created for both |
| 22:38.17 | sysrage | i don't believe there are many people in that category ck.. but i don't know |
| 22:38.38 | ckknight | I definitely think there are. |
| 22:38.46 | ckknight | my brother, for instance |
| 22:38.54 | amro | ckknight: there probably are, but not many |
| 22:38.55 | Kirkburn | Btw, have people noticed the wiki being nippier or more reliable in the past few days? |
| 22:38.58 | ckknight | he weighs how long it'd take to crack something vs. buying the game itself |
| 22:39.14 | Vangual | would be interesting to see asian starcraft and wc3 sales statistics :) |
| 22:39.25 | sysrage | i know there are some.. i don't think there's enough that would truely affect profits |
| 22:39.54 | Iriel | Shadowedd: You can do border:SetTexture(1,1,1) |
| 22:40.19 | Shadowedd | aha |
| 22:40.21 | Shadowedd | thanks Iriel |
| 22:40.22 | Iriel | I think that's what you're missing |
| 22:40.25 | Shadowedd | yeah it is |
| 22:42.07 | amro | ckknight: there are also entire markets based on pirated games in countries where they aren't published, and where most pirates are based. but as the games aren't published there it doesn't matter. |
| 22:42.48 | ckknight | right... but I'm mostly talking about America and other western countries |
| 22:43.33 | ckknight | I mean, why buy a new game when you can pirate it? Even if it is a great game, most times you just don't want to shell out the money |
| 22:44.29 | ckknight | if the pirated version is just as worthwhile as the non-pirated, that is |
| 22:44.35 | Iriel | because there are people who're making those games whose livelihoods depends on us buying them |
| 22:44.35 | Shadowedd | Depends what you want to do, it's rather hard to play a pirated game online without putting more effort then it's worth into it to activate it. |
| 22:44.58 | JoshBorke | like iriel said, i think it also has to do with what stage of life someone is in |
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| 22:45.32 | amro | well if you have a conscience you would buy it (unless you really can't afford it), but overall the loss is negligible |
| 22:45.57 | ckknight | Iriel: that doesn't flow into the minds of most college and high school students, you know |
| 22:45.59 | Iriel | Some of the 'game buying public' consists of those who dont have a proper source of income |
| 22:46.14 | Iriel | But quite a lot of it consists of those who do |
| 22:46.40 | sysrage | but most college and high school students wouldn't play it at all if they couldn't pirate it. then the game would be far less popular and the people that can afford to buy it might not hear about it |
| 22:47.51 | ckknight | yea... |
| 22:48.05 | sysrage | i'm not advocating piracy or anything, it's just a pet peve (sp?) of mine when companies claim huge losses due to piracy. the gaming industry isn't bad in that respect.. the music industry is horrible. if they'd embrace online single track sales, they'd make FAR more money instead of going after all the pirates |
| 22:48.46 | Iriel | I agree that it's overly politicised, ditto for music and DVDs |
| 22:49.23 | Iriel | When they turned napster into an innefective pile of marketing junk my CD buying from out of control to a feeble trickle |
| 22:51.01 | sysrage | i pirate almost all my music because i'm not spending 20 bucks on a cd that i only want to hear a couple songs from, and i'm not gonna buy music from itunes that will only work on an ipod |
| 22:51.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the napster drama made it more public, so i abused the hell out it while it was going |
| 22:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | thanks metallica! :D |
| 22:51.32 | Iriel | I'm an album/CD wanter, so it worked against me. |
| 22:51.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't care about a physical copy |
| 22:52.11 | amro | the only way to buy music where I live is to buy pirated music |
| 22:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i've cut all my funding to the RIAA until they lern2play |
| 22:52.17 | amro | no originals... might as well download it |
| 22:52.41 | Iriel | Well, that's a different situation, if amazon doesn't deliver to you you're in a bad place 8-) |
| 22:52.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i had a movie theater in my house, i'd cut off funding to the MPAA too :O |
| 22:53.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem is even the best HDTV, sound system, and blu-ray/hddvd still doesn't compare to theater quality |
| 22:53.53 | Iriel | I suppose that depends on the contents of your theatre |
| 22:53.58 | sysrage | i'll come sit behind you while you watch your HDTV and talk and spill drinks on you |
| 22:54.05 | Iriel | One person talking mid movie costs a crapload in 'fidelity and experience' IMHO |
| 22:54.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you've got a film projector |
| 22:54.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, projecting films you've stolen or something |
| 22:54.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it won't compare |
| 22:54.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | film is much much higher resolution than 1080p |
| 22:55.20 | Iriel | Perhaps, but where do you have to be sitting to actually benefit from that? |
| 22:55.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't mind people talking, as long as it's quiet |
| 22:55.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't get immersed in movies/games/books anyway |
| 22:55.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm always 100% aware i'm reading words/watching a screen |
| 22:56.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never feel like i'm *there* |
| 22:56.59 | Kaydeethree | then you need to learn how to suspend disbelief |
| 22:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | children of men had the most immersion i've ever had in a movie, during that one long cut during the battle |
| 22:57.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | see, i can suspend disbelief |
| 22:57.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't believe i'm there |
| 22:57.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | camera movement is so unnatural |
| 22:57.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus you have no peripheral vision |
| 22:58.00 | Iriel | Personally I think the closest one ever really gets is 'being able to conceptualize being there' |
| 22:58.16 | Iriel | you can put yourself into the scene, if you wanted to |
| 22:58.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that one scene in children of men was the only time i got so involved in the movie i forgot i was in a theater |
| 22:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i watch a lot of movies in theaters, at least one a week, sometimes up to 3 |
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| 23:00.27 | amro | I easily get immersed in a movie, but get slapped back to reality with zero suspension of disbelief as soon as they do something stupid/unrealistic |
| 23:00.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm always in a "i'm watching actors be characters" state of mind |
| 23:01.15 | amro | which hollywood tends to do often. "Zoom in and enhance." *Zoom 500x on a still from a crappy surveillance camera and show some guy's face* |
| 23:01.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that one scene in "the protector" where it was one long scene was pretty immersive too |
| 23:01.39 | Iriel | amro: That's one of my pet peeves also |
| 23:02.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=K06wDn3XsZE |
| 23:02.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | one scene, 4 minutes, no cuts |
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| 23:08.21 | Cide | that was a pretty awesome scene, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 23:08.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 23:08.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's another scene later that is just ridiculous |
| 23:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | "miniboss" after "miniboss" after "miniboss" |
| 23:09.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think he fights like 100 grunts, then 4 miniboss type dudes, then like 20 grunts, then like 2 of those miniboss dudes from earlier, before fighting the real boss |
| 23:11.19 | foxlit | sounds like revolutions |
| 23:11.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was pretty hilarious though |
| 23:11.54 | foxlit | er, reloaded. I'm rusty on matrix titles :/ |
| 23:12.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty much tony jaa going berserk |
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| 23:12.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and moving up the food chain on getting his revenge on some guy over his elephant |
| 23:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | that movie is like a beat-em-up in game form |
| 23:14.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 23:14.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that movie is like a beat-em-up game in movie form |
| 23:15.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | countless countless waves of enemies, minibosses, then the real boss, and nonstop asskicking from start to finish |
| 23:15.26 | JoshBorke | it's shot like a beat-em-up game |
| 23:16.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it kinda is |
| 23:16.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember walking out of that movie grinning from ear to ear |
| 23:17.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it was pretty much "let's watch tony jaa fight half of thailand plus a jamaican guy and some huge steroidy white guys" |
| 23:17.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | for two hours |
| 23:19.18 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M__9ZmCFNeU |
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| 23:21.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=w_DyoD2CFZ8 |
| 23:21.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | god i love that movie |
| 23:21.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | neebler's has spoilers, mine doesn't quite :p |
| 23:21.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait, i could be wrong |
| 23:21.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it starts sooner, let's see |
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| 23:35.02 | ckknight | elephant? |
| 23:35.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, elephant |
| 23:35.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it doesn't matter why he's kicking ass okay >:[ |
| 23:36.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | he just IS |
| 23:36.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | after a while you lose sight of why he started this |
| 23:36.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then you think...oh...elephant. right. |
| 23:36.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you don't care because the movie just kicks so much ass |
| 23:37.45 | cladhaire | i'm doing shade as shadow priest |
| 23:37.52 | cladhaire | what do i need to keep in mind? |
| 23:38.12 | JoshBorke | pew pew |
| 23:38.15 | JoshBorke | and don't noob |
| 23:38.22 | Kaydeethree | get in the fear rotation at 40% and |
| 23:38.23 | JoshBorke | not sure if you'll be able to handle the second part |
| 23:39.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | cast mind blast ever cooldown and occasionally trinket and then mind blast, he loves that |
| 23:39.27 | Kaydeethree | http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com |
| 23:39.28 | JoshBorke | <3 |
| 23:39.34 | cladhaire | don't nob |
| 23:39.36 | cladhaire | you mean don't move out of the wreath? |
| 23:39.44 | JoshBorke | exactly |
| 23:39.49 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: why do the subtitles keep changing language? |
| 23:39.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what i was wondering |
| 23:40.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like KORNNN KORNNN KORRN |
| 23:40.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | then squiggly language |
| 23:40.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | then some like....portuguese type thing or something |
| 23:40.48 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, in my guild we call Mind Blast "priest taunt" |
| 23:41.00 | JoshBorke | naw |
| 23:41.08 | JoshBorke | it's not a taunt unless they sw: death right afterwards |
| 23:41.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait a second |
| 23:41.14 | JoshBorke | double up on the damage |
| 23:41.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just thought of something |
| 23:41.15 | JunkHead | Back when I was in a garage band, we had a song called "Corn Dog" |
| 23:41.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | what happens if |
| 23:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | as a priest, you mind control someone who's being Mind controlled by a mob |
| 23:41.40 | JunkHead | The whole song went "I like ketchup, I like Mustard. CORNDOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
| 23:41.43 | JunkHead | Over and over. |
| 23:41.54 | JoshBorke | Mr_Rabies: i totally want to try that |
| 23:42.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | or you mind control a mob that's mindcontrolling someone |
| 23:42.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | the recursion is delicious |
| 23:42.25 | JoshBorke | mc'ing a mob mc'ing someone breaks the initial MC, since they are channeling |
| 23:43.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do you hate america |
| 23:44.39 | Tem | also, I have a deep seated hatred for shadow priests |
| 23:44.45 | JoshBorke | <3 tem |
| 23:45.03 | Tem | which may or may not have something to do with how many times I died in the last WSG unable to do anything while feared |
| 23:45.46 | Tem | though, tbh, I think it has more to do with losing our first Nelth's Tear and our first mish to a shadow priest |
| 23:45.50 | Tem | a year ago |
| 23:46.18 | Kaydeethree | oh ow. that's a /gquit move right there |
| 23:46.23 | Cide | uh |
| 23:46.24 | Cide | why? |
| 23:46.38 | Cide | shadow priests are pure dps casters |
| 23:46.46 | Tem | because I hate them |
| 23:46.47 | Kaydeethree | in 6 months of killing nef we got one mish and one nelth's tear |
| 23:47.00 | JoshBorke | cide: not true! i bring mana and healing aggro to the table too! |
| 23:47.14 | Cide | shadow priests provide unparalleled utility to any raid at the moment |
| 23:47.21 | Tem | and they didn't a year ago |
| 23:47.29 | Tem | they were a wasted raid spot |
| 23:47.33 | Cide | not really |
| 23:47.40 | Cide | they weren't as good, sure |
| 23:47.43 | Tem | they couldn't compare dps to a mage or warlock |
| 23:47.53 | Tem | and they went OOM much faster |
| 23:48.00 | Tem | and they weren't keeping me alive |
| 23:48.05 | Tem | and they were taking my gear |
| 23:48.07 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.09 | Cide | your gear huh? |
| 23:48.14 | Tem | yes |
| 23:48.18 | JoshBorke | i think tem == mage/warlock |
| 23:48.18 | Tem | _MY_ gear |
| 23:48.34 | Cide | I'd disagree |
| 23:48.40 | Tem | of course you would |
| 23:48.42 | Tem | you're a priest |
| 23:49.01 | Cide | I'm a holy priest |
| 23:49.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd roll on mish'undare's circlet after hoarding my dkp just to spite you |
| 23:49.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was working on it in my old guild until i lost interest |
| 23:49.51 | Tem | yes well, I'll add you to the "I hate you" list |
| 23:49.59 | Tem | I never got one, btw |
| 23:50.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only feral druid getting mishundare's because none of the other druids want any feral gear |
| 23:50.04 | Tem | we only saw 1 drop |
| 23:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i have no reason to worry about dkp |
| 23:50.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | had. |
| 23:50.35 | Tem | and it went to a shadow priest |
| 23:50.43 | Tem | who also took our first tear |
| 23:50.47 | Tem | of which we got 2 |
| 23:50.54 | Tem | more |
| 23:50.55 | Tem | 2 more |
| 23:51.03 | Tem | the other 2 went to a warlock and mage |
| 23:51.43 | Tem | I don't know why I still give a shit a year later |
| 23:51.46 | Tem | but there you go |
| 23:53.12 | Tem | oh yeah, that bastard also took the only mantle of the blackwing cabal we ever saw |
| 23:53.21 | Tem | I didn't really want one, but the other mages did |
| 23:53.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i pretty much got free reign on the scraps the rogues didn't want |
| 23:53.51 | Tem | yeah we had one feral druid who had the same |
| 23:53.58 | Tem | though, all our druids got a bulwark |
| 23:54.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | ours didn't |
| 23:54.06 | Tem | because it dropped _every_ week |
| 23:54.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got the second bulwark drop |
| 23:54.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | and every one after mine |
| 23:54.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | was DE'd |
| 23:54.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | because all the other druids were healnoobs |
| 23:54.43 | Tem | which brings me to my next point |
| 23:54.47 | Neebler | omg 40% off all games at CompUSA |
| 23:55.02 | Tem | nerf rogues, feral druids, warlocks, and warriors |
| 23:55.05 | Tem | kthx |
| 23:55.50 | Neebler | not warlocks |
| 23:56.00 | Tem | s/warlocks/warlock fear/ |
| 23:56.19 | Neebler | allready been done a dozen or so times |
| 23:56.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh what's that? i can't hear you over mangle |
| 23:56.33 | Tem | yeah um |
| 23:56.41 | Tem | the clothy in me hates you |
| 23:56.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh what's that? shred crit for 2500? |
| 23:57.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | that looks like it hurt mr mageypoo |
| 23:57.31 | Tem | I wish I could do that kind of damage without self rooting for 3 seconds |
| 23:57.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i have to be behind you, and it takes... |
| 23:57.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6 seconds to do that more than once |
| 23:57.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think. |
| 23:58.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
| 23:58.02 | Tem | yeah |
| 23:58.08 | Tem | it's more or less balanced |
| 23:58.18 | Tem | I just need to relearn kiting as a fire mage |
| 23:58.21 | Tem | I was frost for too long |
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| 23:58.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, 6 seconds |
| 23:58.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus to get numbers that high i have to have a mangle up |
| 23:58.49 | Tem | which you always do |
| 23:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i generally pounce, dash to you, mangle, shred, shred, maim, run off, restealth |
| 23:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | ravage, mangle, ferocious bite, dead |