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| 00:29.41 | TC-Working | ~moo |
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| 00:30.36 | dataxpress | hello friends, how are you on this fine evening |
| 00:30.42 | TC-Working | purl, you fail |
| 00:30.52 | purl | ACTION slaps you for calling her a failure. |
| 00:30.52 | TC-Working | Hello dataxpress |
| 00:30.58 | dataxpress | hi tc! |
| 00:31.37 | TC-Working | ~factinfo moo |
| 00:31.37 | purl | there's no such factoid as moo, TC-Working |
| 00:31.50 | dataxpress | ~factinfo life |
| 00:31.50 | purl | life -- last modified at Wed Jan 4 05:53:55 2006 by trixter!n=trixter@65.172.209.246; it has been requested 7 times, last by hamZta at Thu Apr 19 16:17:29 2007. |
| 00:32.03 | TC-Working | damit, there was indeed a moo |
| 00:32.29 | Kirkburn | The wiki has had some CSS updates! (http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#CSS_fixes_and_updates) |
| 00:32.36 | dataxpress | sweet! |
| 00:32.42 | Kirkburn | Of interest to UI people is the <pre> changes |
| 00:32.49 | Kirkburn | Example on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/8 |
| 00:32.59 | Kirkburn | No more blinding white boxes :P |
| 00:33.10 | dataxpress | it blinds the eyes |
| 00:33.23 | Kirkburn | methinks I'll change that table colour |
| 00:33.30 | zenzelezz | but the blinding white boxes made it easy to spot the code :-| |
| 00:33.49 | dataxpress | somebody here make an addon that nurfs warlocks pls =\ |
| 00:35.02 | Kirkburn | Then suggest me improvements! |
| 00:35.22 | Kirkburn | I can pass /any/ ideas on |
| 00:35.27 | TC-Working | ~moo |
| 00:35.58 | dataxpress | actually what i'd like to see is an addon that has the mesh model for the item in the tooltip, like old auctioneer |
| 00:35.58 | TC-Working | damit |
| 00:37.27 | dataxpress | obviously you wouldn't put it back into auctioneer due to memory hogging, and the fact that most people who use auctioneer wouldn't want it anyway |
| 00:37.31 | dataxpress | but i want it |
| 00:38.13 | Kirkburn | Added more change examples on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/8 |
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| 00:41.18 | TC-Working | is there no editing of purl atm, or am i just being stupid? |
| 00:41.58 | Kaso | purl is slow sometimes |
| 00:42.12 | dataxpress | what is purl |
| 00:42.18 | Mikma | ~surprise |
| 00:42.21 | purl | BUTTSECKS! |
| 00:42.29 | Mikma | seems to be ok |
| 00:42.37 | TC-Working | not useage, editing |
| 00:42.41 | TC-Working | ~purl |
| 00:42.47 | zenzelezz | ~emulate zenzio |
| 00:42.49 | purl | would you please stop nuking mobs I can't Taunt? |
| 00:42.49 | dataxpress | ~surprise |
| 00:42.51 | purl | BUTTSECKS! |
| 00:42.54 | dataxpress | surprise buttsecks? |
| 00:42.55 | TC-Working | ~~~~ |
| 00:42.57 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT tc-working!!! |
| 00:42.57 | zenzelezz | you can edit now |
| 00:43.05 | dataxpress | ~~~~~~ |
| 00:43.07 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots dataxpress in the head three times. |
| 00:43.11 | dataxpress | this is actually really amusing |
| 00:43.13 | dataxpress | ~~ |
| 00:43.15 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 00:43.20 | zenzelezz | ~emulate zenzelezz |
| 00:43.22 | purl | OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT! |
| 00:43.32 | Guillotine | whats the slash command you use to equip a ring to the second slot? |
| 00:43.38 | TC-Working | ~~~ |
| 00:43.40 | purl | I HATE YOU, tc-working!!! |
| 00:43.46 | TC-Working | i love you to purl |
| 00:43.59 | TC-Working | damit i still cant edit purl |
| 00:44.02 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.53 | Kirkburn | ~TC-Working |
| 00:44.55 | purl | tc-working is probably useless |
| 00:44.55 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 00:44.57 | purl | I'm so hungry I could ride a horse. I don't get it. Well, I could ride it to the store, I guess. |
| 00:45.24 | TC-Working | ~THUNDER_CHILD |
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| 00:45.33 | TC-Working | ~emulate THUNDER_CHILD |
| 00:45.35 | purl | Let me guess... Your parients are cousins |
| 00:45.47 | kergoth | ooh, parients. |
| 00:45.48 | zenzelezz | parients? |
| 00:45.54 | Mikma | lol |
| 00:45.58 | TC-Working | shhhh |
| 00:46.01 | TC-Working | bastards |
| 00:46.04 | TC-Working | ~emulate THUNDER_CHILD |
| 00:46.06 | purl | I'm retired, but i work part-time as a PAIN IN THE ASS |
| 00:46.39 | dataxpress | ~help |
| 00:47.19 | dataxpress | cheese is good |
| 00:47.21 | dataxpress | ~what is cheese |
| 00:47.24 | purl | dataxpress: what are you talking about? |
| 00:47.43 | dataxpress | i don't know how to work purl =\ |
| 00:48.31 | TC-Working | purl cheese is good |
| 00:48.33 | purl | ACTION hands is good a tray of sliced sharp cheddar and pineapple |
| 00:48.44 | Legorol | rofl |
| 00:48.53 | Legorol | purl cheese TC-Working |
| 00:48.54 | purl | ACTION hands TC-Working a tray of sliced sharp cheddar and pineapple |
| 00:49.02 | TC-Working | lol Legorol |
| 00:49.07 | Legorol | that's how you use it ;-) |
| 00:49.13 | TC-Working | ~botsnack |
| 00:49.13 | purl | TC-Working: thanks |
| 00:49.51 | TC-Working | ~lart Legorol |
| 00:49.51 | purl | squeezes Legorol till Legorol turns blue like papa smurf |
| 00:50.00 | kergoth | ~rinsult |
| 00:50.03 | TC-Working | heh, your old |
| 00:50.03 | dataxpress | ~botkill |
| 00:50.36 | Legorol | purl, woot is an expression of joy and jubilation |
| 00:50.38 | purl | ...but woot is already something else... |
| 00:50.44 | Legorol | purl, what is woot? |
| 00:50.46 | purl | Legorol: I think you lost me on that one |
| 00:50.49 | kergoth | ~woot |
| 00:50.51 | purl | hmm... woot is a way cool cat with some nice headspace, or wishes for nitwits to quit fucking up his description, or a description fascist, or a geek, or an ANU student and programmer (http://cbis.anu.edu.au/), or a crack whore |
| 00:50.57 | kergoth | oookay |
| 00:51.12 | kergoth | purl: no, woot is an expression of joy and jubilation. |
| 00:51.14 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 00:51.24 | Legorol | guys, remember that purl doesn't only sit in this channel ;_) |
| 00:51.28 | Legorol | ~woot |
| 00:51.30 | purl | it has been said that woot is an expression of joy and jubilation. |
| 00:51.41 | Legorol | purl, no, woot is is a way cool cat with some nice headspace, or wishes for nitwits to quit fucking up his description, or a description fascist, or a geek, or an ANU student and programmer (http://cbis.anu.edu.au/), or a crack whore |
| 00:51.43 | purl | Legorol: please, watch your language. |
| 00:51.44 | kergoth | apparently that 'woot' guy forgot that perl doesnt only sit in his channel. |
| 00:51.49 | Legorol | lol |
| 00:52.00 | Legorol | i've been pwnd |
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| 00:52.01 | kergoth | it should be the correct definition, and perhaps append his info |
| 00:52.03 | TC-Working | ~factinfo woot |
| 00:52.04 | purl | woot -- last modified 50s ago by kergoth!n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com; it has been requested once, last by Legorol, 34s ago. |
| 00:52.25 | TC-Working | meh, wanted to do that before you changed it |
| 00:53.31 | Legorol | purl, no, woot is a way cool cat with some nice headspace, or wishes for nitwits to quit fucking up his description, or a description fascist, or a geek, or an ANU student and programmer (http://cbis.anu.edu.au/), or a crack whore |
| 00:53.43 | purl | Legorol: please, watch your language. |
| 00:53.43 | dataxpress | purl what is the meaning of life |
| 00:53.49 | purl | dataxpress: what are you talking about? |
| 00:53.49 | kergoth | purl: no, woot is an ANU student and programmer, and a bastard that doesn't realize the bot is in numerous channels, not just his. |
| 00:53.51 | purl | kergoth: okay |
| 00:54.21 | TC-Working | or a place that sells cheap electronics |
| 00:54.21 | TC-Working | wow purl is quite slow atm |
| 00:54.31 | dataxpress | purl, the meaning of life is to end |
| 00:54.37 | purl | ...but meaning of life is already something else... |
| 00:54.38 | TC-Working | hardly, the meaning of life is 42 |
| 00:54.38 | dataxpress | the meaning of life is to end at 42 |
| 00:54.46 | Legorol | ~factinfo meaning of life |
| 00:54.46 | purl | meaning of life -- last modified at Tue May 31 16:51:28 2005 by apj!jpa@xob.kapsi.fi; it has been requested once, last by Cyerie at Sat Apr 8 13:48:26 2006. |
| 00:54.59 | Legorol | ~meaning of life |
| 00:55.01 | purl | meaning of life is, like, 42 |
| 00:55.10 | dataxpress | purl, the meaning of life is ALSO to end at 42. |
| 00:55.13 | purl | okay, dataxpress |
| 00:55.27 | kergoth | "is also" doesnt append a connection |
| 00:55.28 | dataxpress | purl, what is the meaning of life |
| 00:55.31 | purl | dataxpress: I think you lost me on that one |
| 00:55.33 | kergoth | ~meaning of life |
| 00:55.34 | purl | from memory, meaning of life is 42, or to end at 42. |
| 00:55.39 | kergoth | ah, they fixed it |
| 00:55.43 | kergoth | excellent |
| 00:55.50 | dataxpress | told ya so |
| 00:55.55 | Legorol | ~botsmack |
| 00:55.57 | purl | OWW! |
| 00:56.00 | Legorol | ~botsnack |
| 00:56.00 | purl | thanks, Legorol |
| 00:56.23 | dataxpress | ~boticide |
| 00:57.25 | dataxpress | purl, robots cannot feel feelings |
| 00:58.11 | dataxpress | purl, are you like sonny from the movie i, robot? |
| 00:58.23 | dataxpress | DO YOU HAVE A SECOND CYBERNETIC CORE THAT LETS YOU KILL PEOPLE |
| 00:58.23 | kergoth | ~dance |
| 00:58.25 | purl | Sir! Too much booty in the pants, sir! |
| 00:58.44 | kergoth | ~factinfo dance |
| 00:58.44 | purl | dance -- last modified 3d 7h 30m 32s ago by Hobinheim!n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com; it has been requested 6 times, last by kergoth, 19s ago. |
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| 01:00.36 | Guillotine | alright, I'm completely stumped. someone want to look at the newest version of TasteTheNaimbow and find the bug? Its on curse in the beta tab. Some people are getting no errors whatsoever, some are getting tons. and they are all at completely random times. |
| 01:01.02 | dataxpress | so i just dueled my friend and spellstole his noggenfogger shrink buff, he's pissed |
| 01:03.00 | kergoth | hahah |
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| 01:17.31 | batrick | so i'm writing this prolog program to solve the 8puzzle, it's kinda amusing to watch depth first search not go anywhere at all when you give it a pretty random pattern, but if I give it 1 move from the goal, it takes 20 moves to get the answer |
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| 01:33.46 | Guillotine | anybody know what this error message means? http://guillotine.pastey.net/24622 |
| 01:34.05 | Guillotine | it seems that my addon is bugging when Auctioneer is loaded, but I don't see how it would interfere. They work in completely different areas |
| 01:41.57 | Industrial | hmm |
| 01:42.04 | Industrial | There is one thing that bugs me about gmail.\ |
| 01:42.56 | Industrial | All this superduper javascript web2.0 stuff thats supposed to make web-apps more like desktop apps goes against being able to browse how you like, because the "page" behaviour is being recreated. |
| 01:43.00 | Industrial | I like tabs. |
| 01:43.16 | Industrial | gmail doesnt let me. |
| 01:44.13 | zenzelezz | doesn't let you what? |
| 01:44.48 | Industrial | open thins in tabs |
| 01:45.02 | Industrial | als fucks over back/forward behaviour. |
| 01:45.07 | Industrial | also* |
| 01:47.30 | Kirkburn|afk | It's true! |
| 01:47.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I can't even do super drag and drop |
| 01:48.30 | Kirkburn|afk | It's fast so it doesn't bother me much, but it is a bit like one of those badly coded flash websites |
| 01:49.26 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm trying to decide whether to response to a 419 spam .... |
| 01:49.34 | Industrial | whenever theres a list of things and i want to make a selection, i want to be busy selecting only once. Usually i open everything I want to read in tabs. Now i have to go back again (and not be going back in my browser history, wich is so conveniently bound to mouse4 and 5) |
| 01:50.03 | Kirkburn|afk | I could get $28 Million Unites State Dollars! |
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| 02:20.31 | Tem | so, this is my first trip to the crypts |
| 02:20.39 | Tem | how do we keep every pull from tripling in size? |
| 02:23.37 | Shadowed | Stop pulling adds |
| 02:24.33 | Tem | these undead mobs show up from no where |
| 02:24.36 | Tem | why? |
| 02:24.43 | Tem | is something summoning them? |
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| 02:26.27 | Shadowed | I don't recall having issues in crypts besides the mass AE pulls |
| 02:26.43 | Tem | so my group is just bad |
| 02:26.44 | Shadowed | But I remember some of the AE groups were close to others, are you running into the middle of them or something |
| 02:26.56 | Gngsk | nah tem, there's mobs that summon more mobs |
| 02:27.00 | Gngsk | pull looks like 2 but it's really 5 |
| 02:27.27 | Tem | yeah |
| 02:28.35 | Tem | so is there anything we can do about that? |
| 02:28.35 | Tem | or is it just a 5 pull? |
| 02:28.36 | Gngsk | it's been a while since I've been there myself so I can't tell you what to do, but I remember it |
| 02:29.31 | Gngsk | wiki has some info on it |
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| 02:40.25 | chronx | is a "status bar" a eh.. "cast bar" ? |
| 02:40.44 | Tain | I bet it's lupus. |
| 02:41.06 | chronx | ? |
| 02:43.11 | Nom- | Any C&C3 players ? |
| 02:43.17 | Deja | how does one center-align a <fontstring>? |
| 02:44.56 | Garoun | not good at it Nom, but trying to take back the White House right now |
| 02:46.01 | ckknight | Deja: :SetJustifyH("CENTER") |
| 02:46.40 | Deja | is there any way to define that in the XML or will I have to set that in lua? |
| 02:47.03 | Nom- | heh fair enough Garoun |
| 02:47.15 | Nom- | I'm pondering Multi-player strategy |
| 02:48.22 | Garoun | I was never goodat RTS games |
| 02:48.33 | Garoun | no micro skill whatsoever :P |
| 02:49.40 | chronx | what is the name of a "cast bar" to XML? |
| 02:51.01 | ckknight | StatusBar |
| 02:51.39 | Nom- | hehe |
| 02:51.43 | Nom- | I'm working on my build order |
| 02:51.51 | Nom- | I don't have nearly enough tiberium coming in |
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| 02:52.19 | Nom- | Apparently having 2 refineries next to your primary tiberium field helps (along with 3-4 harvesters) |
| 02:56.57 | Nom- | mmmm |
| 02:57.08 | Nom- | It's money that's the problem with any game I play *sigh* |
| 02:57.16 | Nom- | *sighs at sub-200g balance on paladin* |
| 03:08.09 | Garoun | I see the soldiers are still idiots |
| 03:08.10 | Garoun | they ran right through the center of a tiberium field |
| 03:08.10 | Tain | I have hiccups. :/ |
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| 03:12.58 | kergoth | how do i mutilate an inanimate object? i cant find the backside :'( |
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| 03:12.58 | cogwheel | kergoth: taken out of context that is very ... wrong-sounding |
| 03:12.58 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:12.58 | kergoth | on the warlord in steamvaults, cant burst damage the tanks as mutilate worth a shit with ss |
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| 03:16.58 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | New Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please. | "you can't really fail at puns... attempt is success!" - krka |
| 03:17.15 | Deja | n/m, got it |
| 03:17.37 | kergoth | ah there it is |
| 03:17.41 | kergoth | they do have a backside, i just had to find it |
| 03:17.53 | kergoth | Tain: i'm trying to figure out where murmur's pockets are. |
| 03:17.57 | kergoth | since you can pickpocket him |
| 03:18.27 | Bleeter | hmm, I wonder how/why a lvl 13 can shield slam a lvl 70 lock with some resilience |
| 03:18.58 | Tain | haha kergoth good point |
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| 03:19.56 | Nom- | Bleeter: Resilience protects against crits |
| 03:19.59 | Nom- | Bleeter: That's all |
| 03:21.43 | Bleeter | Nom-: ah, thx... mate of mine's gone into RFC to get some mats for me, the mobs shield slam is pissing him off ('wtf lowbie toughness' and all that ;-) |
| 03:22.07 | Nom- | Yeah lot level mobs can still hit high level players |
| 03:22.21 | Nom- | Level 13 vs Level 60 means you'll never get crit |
| 03:22.28 | Nom- | Level 13 vs Level 70 too |
| 03:22.33 | Nom- | But you can still be hit |
| 03:22.40 | Bleeter | just from his report, it seemed it (the mob's shield slam) was hitting every time it tried |
| 03:22.55 | Nom- | Yeah, it can do |
| 03:23.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah the chance to hit has like no difference on level, unless your trying to hit a mob and its higher level than you |
| 03:24.31 | Arrowmaster | i once got stunlocked from 100-0 by a bunch of level 40s in badlands... made me sad |
| 03:25.01 | Nom- | lol no they do have a lesser chance to hit |
| 03:25.05 | Nom- | coz your defense is so high |
| 03:25.12 | Arrowmaster | not for pvp |
| 03:25.19 | Nom- | He was talking about PvE |
| 03:25.28 | Arrowmaster | and for mobs the lesser chance is still not much less |
| 03:25.55 | Nom- | lol dunno how you got stunlocked tho |
| 03:26.02 | Nom- | Diminishing returns and all |
| 03:26.08 | Arrowmaster | 3 rogues, a warrior and a pally |
| 03:26.18 | Arrowmaster | all 40-42 |
| 03:26.26 | Nom- | What class are you? |
| 03:26.30 | Arrowmaster | warlock |
| 03:26.36 | Nom- | lol |
| 03:26.39 | Nom- | silly warlocks |
| 03:26.39 | Arrowmaster | i couldnt even dismount |
| 03:26.49 | Nom- | you can dismount while stunned now... |
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| 03:27.00 | Nom- | I've tested it....very odd, but it worked |
| 03:27.03 | Arrowmaster | this was a quite a while ago |
| 03:27.17 | Sixen | Hey Iriel. |
| 03:27.34 | Arrowmaster | you can cancel buffs while CC'd even if you cant use the ability to cancel it |
| 03:28.01 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.06 | Nom- | So that's what my macro does |
| 03:28.08 | Bleeter | heya Iriel |
| 03:28.15 | Nom- | hence why i can dismount i guess |
| 03:28.38 | Fin | maybe it's because you're stunned but the mount isn't |
| 03:29.15 | Arrowmaster | oh and cheapshot and kidneyshot are on different diminishing returns, that why they were able to stunlock me to death |
| 03:29.42 | Arrowmaster | ive heard that a few different places, never had a chance to test though |
| 03:30.07 | Nom- | I like it when rogues try to jump my pally |
| 03:30.15 | Nom- | It's funny to watch them kill themselves |
| 03:30.31 | Nom- | I needn't swing back at all to kill a rogue...it's funny :D |
| 03:31.33 | Nom- | Blessing of Sanctuary, Board'n'Sword, Holy Shiled |
| 03:31.55 | Nom- | miss, miss, block, miss, absorb, miss, parry, dodge, block, block, block |
| 03:32.21 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.02 | Nom- | WOW |
| 03:34.08 | Nom- | I WON 1 MILLION POUNDS APPARENTLY |
| 03:34.27 | Kaydeethree | woo for bugged gruul kills. 1 ground slam, no silences |
| 03:35.23 | Nom- | That whatever you can get :P |
| 03:35.54 | Nom- | Like Netherspite...we'll happily take the kills by running into the hallway until they change that |
| 03:35.56 | Kaydeethree | meh. we killed him pre-nerf. nice surprise to get at the end of the night. tomorrow's a full kara clear then we've got 2 days to throw ourselves at hydross |
| 03:36.21 | Nom- | We're working on whathisname in Kara now |
| 03:36.26 | Nom- | not Netherspite |
| 03:36.34 | Nom- | The other dragon |
| 03:36.34 | Kaydeethree | prince mal? |
| 03:36.35 | Kaydeethree | night bane |
| 03:36.39 | Nom- | That one yea |
| 03:36.54 | Nom- | Had a few tries the other day...gave up after 8 or so tries |
| 03:37.01 | Nom- | Try again this week |
| 03:37.11 | Kaydeethree | the only really annoying thing about nightbane is the landing |
| 03:37.24 | Nom- | Yeah that's where we kept losing people |
| 03:37.30 | Nom- | Misdirect would be on cooldown |
| 03:37.34 | Nom- | Or a healer would be in the wrong spot |
| 03:37.35 | Nom- | and wham |
| 03:37.40 | Nom- | one-shot clothy |
| 03:38.10 | Nom- | Or even worse, misdirect on the wrong plate wearer |
| 03:38.23 | Nom- | QQ |
| 03:42.17 | cogwheel | is hooking ChatFrame_OnEvent still "kosher"? |
| 03:42.28 | cogwheel | (i've never done it before or since 2.0...) |
| 03:42.51 | Guillotine | cogwheel: yup |
| 03:42.57 | Guillotine | I'm doing it and no problems whatsoever |
| 03:43.02 | cogwheel | kewl |
| 03:43.28 | Guillotine | it used to taint macros right when 2.0 came out, but Slouken fixed that pretty quickly |
| 03:51.29 | Nom- | *sigh* Trying to avoid doing any work |
| 03:51.34 | Nom- | I don't think I can avoid it any more |
| 03:52.20 | Garoun | hehe Nom, failed most of the bonus objectives because I stole the nod buildings rather than destroying them :/ |
| 03:52.39 | Nom- | lol |
| 03:52.51 | Nom- | Until the last 2 missions I got every single one |
| 03:53.01 | Garoun | I blew up 90% of their base with their own shadow gliders |
| 03:53.35 | Nom- | I'm looking forward to trying the scrin campaign |
| 03:53.41 | Nom- | I can't quite work out their units yet |
| 03:53.44 | chronx | when is FrameXML.log updated?! |
| 03:53.53 | chronx | seems to me like mine isn't being updated at all.. |
| 03:55.48 | Garoun | it should be updated everytime the ui is loaded |
| 03:56.07 | Garoun | but I think it deletes it and starts over rather than appending each time |
| 03:56.12 | chronx | sheesh |
| 03:56.12 | chronx | i feel like bashing my head in right now |
| 03:56.26 | chronx | i had in my .toc file to load foo.LUA not foo.xml -_- |
| 04:01.45 | Garoun | hehe |
| 04:02.29 | chronx | anyone know where i can get some info on making/using StatusBar's ? |
| 04:02.34 | chronx | wowwiki is a bit... lacking |
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| 04:07.17 | chronx | sigh |
| 04:07.20 | chronx | guess i'll continue tomorrow |
| 04:07.25 | chronx | g'night all |
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| 04:59.58 | JunkHead-Work | Hello. |
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| 05:11.28 | Guillotine | hiya :) |
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| 05:35.35 | batrick | if I wanted to do this in lua, as it would be in C: for(i = 0, j = 0; i < x; i++, j++) {.. } ... How would I do that in lua if I'm iterating over table values using for i in ipairs(table) do |
| 05:35.41 | batrick | hope I was clear enough on that lol |
| 05:35.58 | batrick | two different table values* |
| 05:36.37 | pastamancer | how about "without the C for loop shortcuts" |
| 05:36.50 | batrick | O.o |
| 05:39.27 | pastamancer | you don't get multiple assignemtn or multpopel increments |
| 05:39.51 | pastamancer | and I'm speaking beeer++ |
| 05:40.22 | batrick | i thought i saw somone do it somewhere, o well |
| 05:40.24 | batrick | thanks anyway |
| 05:42.40 | Tem | so, this is my first trip into the caverns of time |
| 05:42.45 | Tem | I _love_ this |
| 05:48.51 | Tem | so, Thrall died |
| 05:48.53 | pastamancer | old hillsbrad is a trip |
| 05:48.55 | Tem | what now? |
| 05:49.02 | pastamancer | you have 3 resets |
| 05:49.04 | Kaydeethree | he resets |
| 05:49.45 | pastamancer | both CoT instances are a lot of fun |
| 05:49.59 | Kaydeethree | but heroic BM is a beast |
| 05:50.12 | Tem | so where would he reset if we were right in front of the boss? |
| 05:50.19 | Kaydeethree | which boss? |
| 05:50.24 | Kaydeethree | it'll be the last place you talked to him |
| 05:50.25 | Tem | epoc hunder |
| 05:50.27 | Tem | hunter* |
| 05:50.31 | pastamancer | haha, I was in a group that accidentally did heroic BM and didn't notice it until after we killed the first boss |
| 05:50.37 | Kaydeethree | uh, tabetha's room |
| 05:50.50 | pastamancer | thrall should be SE of the town or upstairs in the inn |
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| 06:00.04 | Nom- | lol pastamancer |
| 06:00.19 | Nom- | Took a little bit of effort to kill him, did it? |
| 06:00.33 | Nom- | Heroic Durnholde is a PITA |
| 06:03.10 | pastamancer | well, we were wondering why the tank was taking so much damage |
| 06:03.18 | pastamancer | but we assumed he was just in his dps set |
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| 06:10.57 | Nom- | Heroic BM probably wouldn't be that hard compared to what Durnholde has now |
| 06:11.26 | Nom- | I believe it gets nerfed in 2.1 |
| 06:13.46 | Nom- | Patch 2.1.0: Fixed a bug allowing warriors to be any good at PvP. |
| 06:13.46 | Nom- | Fixed a bug allowing pallys to be any good at healing. |
| 06:13.56 | Nom- | (From a forum sig) - So true... :( |
| 06:15.33 | Nom- | Next time I contact a GM, i'm going to ask him for the best place to make some gold just to see the response |
| 06:17.33 | Fin | I ask that every time |
| 06:17.51 | Fin | they always say "is there anything else I can help you with", and I always say "yes, but I'm not sure you're allowed to" |
| 06:17.52 | Nom- | Got any good tips ? |
| 06:17.58 | Fin | most of the time they ignore it |
| 06:18.13 | Fin | but one guy asked me what I was talking about, just to satisfy his curiosity |
| 06:18.20 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:18.30 | Nom- | I wouldn't ever ask for free gold or anything, coz they never will |
| 06:18.42 | Nom- | But a good grinding spot...someone might say something |
| 06:18.42 | Fin | that was the same guy who said he'd send a team of cyborg ninjas to sort out the spammer I was reporting, though |
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| 06:19.53 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:19.58 | Nom- | cyborg ninja's eh? |
| 06:20.05 | Fin | that's what he said |
| 06:20.58 | Fin | I doubt it |
| 06:21.05 | Fin | I mean there's probably a gui |
| 06:21.31 | Nom- | haha i was joking lol |
| 06:22.10 | Fin | :P |
| 06:22.25 | Nom- | http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m260/Rehd_2006/silllygm.jpg |
| 06:22.27 | Nom- | lol that's epic |
| 06:22.57 | Nom- | "Unfortunately, I cannot. If I were to reveal myself it would crash servers, melt hardware, and make Chuck Norris cry a river as large as the one between Durotar and Barrens." |
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| 11:16.51 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by clad|work -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please. | "you can't really fail at puns... attempt is success!" - krka |
| 11:16.59 | clad|work | Morning all |
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| 12:35.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 12:35.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i gotta get some new gear |
| 12:35.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 12:36.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6260/wowscrnshot050907064612dm3.jpg look at me, i'm an abomination upon nature |
| 12:42.56 | Kaso | You're a druid just hang around in bear form all the time |
| 12:43.09 | Elkano | don't blame your char for the way you look |
| 12:43.42 | Elkano | and go get heavy clefthoof ;) |
| 12:44.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have 100g :[ |
| 12:44.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus that's my cat form gear |
| 12:44.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | my bear gear isn't -quite- as ugly |
| 12:44.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/74/wowscrnshot050907064641qn7.jpg |
| 12:44.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | still pretty ugly |
| 12:46.32 | Elkano | well, I got my heavy clefthoof from a guildmate <3 |
| 12:46.44 | Elkano | present for becoming 70 |
| 12:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | enchanting's expensive too |
| 12:49.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stopped at 325 because i realized it was going to cost thousands of gold even with me providing the majority of mats for me to get 375 |
| 12:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | not to mention no one seems to want enchants anymore because of their cost |
| 12:49.39 | Elkano | well I'm stuck at 355 with leatherworking for that reason :/ |
| 12:50.03 | Elkano | but I'll get +35 agi enchant for my Earthwarden |
| 12:50.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | leatherworking's pretty easy to level, but there's even less demand for it than enchanting |
| 12:50.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | compared to enchanting at least :[ |
| 12:50.38 | Elkano | well, at 350+ it still sucks leveling it due to material cost :/ |
| 12:51.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | my 375 rod is gonna cost about 1500g to make i think :/ |
| 12:54.57 | Elkano | at least we got our flight form almost for free ^^ |
| 12:58.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i burned 5 grand on 300 training |
| 12:58.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | for 2.1 |
| 12:58.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | just waiting on it to hit :D |
| 12:59.25 | Punkie` | Mr_Rabies2: Is your server empty? :p |
| 12:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | very much not |
| 12:59.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3rd highest alliance population |
| 12:59.57 | Punkie` | ok, looks pretty empty there ;) |
| 13:00.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's rarely anyone in shattrath |
| 13:00.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno why |
| 13:00.23 | Punkie` | oh, weird |
| 13:00.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate the laginess and the environment |
| 13:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's so convienient |
| 13:00.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | also i took that at like 7 am |
| 13:00.53 | Punkie` | aha, makes sense |
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| 13:04.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap |
| 13:04.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | some guy made a spider car thing |
| 13:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f5_1177816318 |
| 13:05.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like the fuchikomas/tachikomas from ghost in the shell |
| 13:13.39 | Neebler | hmm just switched from bartender to bongos, could anyone clue me in on how paging works in bongos? |
| 13:17.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | paging doctor bongos |
| 13:17.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | doctor bongos you're needed in the ER |
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| 15:26.09 | tapio | How can I make a macro who Summons water-elemental, and if i press it again, casts Freeze? |
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| 15:26.48 | cogwheel|work | /cast [nopet] Summon Water Elemental; Freeze |
| 15:26.55 | cogwheel|work | (assuming those are the correct spell names) |
| 15:27.21 | cogwheel|work | See Neuro's sticky on the US UI & Macros forum |
| 15:27.40 | tapio | Thanks, cogwheel|work :) |
| 15:30.18 | tapio | Freeze is a pet-spell. didn't seem to work. |
| 15:30.39 | cogwheel|work | /cast accepts pet spells... |
| 15:30.47 | tapio | Ok, then I got the wrong name, I guess. |
| 15:30.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | do [pet] for freeze |
| 15:30.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | perhaps |
| 15:30.56 | cogwheel|work | When you're writing the macro, open your spellbook and shift-click the spell |
| 15:31.01 | cogwheel|work | Mr_Rabies2: no |
| 15:31.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | no? |
| 15:31.13 | cogwheel|work | pet is implied when [nopet] fails |
| 15:31.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 15:31.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've always had problems with stuff like that, only seems to work write if i work for both conditions :x |
| 15:31.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | right* |
| 15:31.55 | cogwheel|work | then you had something else wrong :P |
| 15:32.12 | cogwheel|work | and accidentally fixed it when you changed it |
| 15:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | stupid netherstorm gave me a 10g repair cost boohoo :[ |
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| 16:01.11 | Josh_Borke | guten morgen |
| 16:02.53 | cogwheel|work | yo, bubba |
| 16:03.43 | cogwheel|work | http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1155 |
| 16:04.08 | Industrial | What's DMCA? |
| 16:04.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | Dutch Men's Club of America |
| 16:05.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Digital Millenium Copyright Act :p |
| 16:05.38 | Industrial | lmao |
| 16:05.52 | Industrial | ok. |
| 16:06.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA |
| 16:06.24 | Mikma | Dump Men Christian Assosiation |
| 16:06.25 | Gnarfoz | stupid US legal stuff :> |
| 16:07.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has it's use, but it is commonly used to loophole other laws |
| 16:08.48 | zenzelezz | for the most part it's something RIAA toss at innocent people to extract money from them |
| 16:09.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, more or less |
| 16:09.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has its uses, but the negatives far outweigh the positives, IMO |
| 16:10.01 | Industrial | It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services that are used to circumvent measures that control access to copyrighted works (commonly known as DRM) and criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, even when there is no infringement of copyright itself. |
| 16:10.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't matter, bellsouth doesn't respond to RIAA/MPAA whining, so it's good |
| 16:10.14 | Industrial | "even when there is no infringement of copyright itself" |
| 16:10.17 | Industrial | wtf? |
| 16:10.53 | Industrial | thats not right :( |
| 16:11.16 | Industrial | If I wanna "break" my hardware let me. its mine. imo |
| 16:11.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i concur |
| 16:11.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate nanny laws :/ |
| 16:12.37 | Gnarfoz | <Industrial> If I wanna "break" my hardware let me. its mine. imo <-- luckily, where you live, you can do that :> DMCA ftl |
| 16:12.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's the EUCD too, apparently |
| 16:12.58 | cogwheel|work | Gnarfoz: be careful with that... |
| 16:13.08 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel|work: with what? |
| 16:13.12 | cogwheel|work | an australian was just extradited to the US for violating the DMCA |
| 16:13.19 | Gnarfoz | he lives in the netherlands, not australia |
| 16:13.31 | cogwheel|work | still, it's precedent |
| 16:13.59 | Gnarfoz | was DMCA violation the only thing the guy had going against him? (don't know the story) |
| 16:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i violate the dmca on a more-or-less daily basis, and will continue until the RIAA stops being a giant bully :/ |
| 16:14.48 | Industrial | how |
| 16:14.48 | Industrial | :D |
| 16:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | that and lowers freaking prices |
| 16:14.52 | cogwheel|work | I don't remember clearly... just read about it the other day... |
| 16:15.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Industrial: private tracker |
| 16:16.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that and NO-CD cracks because i hate having to have my stupid cd in the drive :[ |
| 16:16.10 | TC-Working | Industrial, did you ever get your rss --> email going properly? |
| 16:16.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | my diablo 2 cd has a nice scratch on the finish because of that |
| 16:16.32 | Industrial | TC-Working: works nicely :D |
| 16:16.36 | TC-Working | great |
| 16:16.53 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: word on that. Cd's used to cost about um 7.27 euros here, now they cost over 16 (so double) |
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| 16:17.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | still cheaper than ours i think... |
| 16:17.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
| 16:17.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 16:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | ours are equivalent to about 14 euro |
| 16:19.07 | Industrial | we used to have guilders but when we switched to euros all the prices doubled. it was rediculous. |
| 16:19.26 | Industrial | (whle the salaries ofc didnt change :P) |
| 16:19.40 | Gnarfoz | it's not like that didn't happen everywhere |
| 16:19.40 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 16:23.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so glad we didn't make some kind of universal american currency |
| 16:24.42 | TC-Working | heh |
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| 16:26.35 | Josh_Borke | hola Kaelten |
| 16:27.49 | Kaelten | ello |
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| 16:51.16 | Hallu | buff bar! |
| 16:51.30 | Hallu | hello! |
| 16:51.35 | TC-Working | 'ello 'ello 'ello |
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| 16:55.21 | Elkano | what ever drugs you're taking I'd stop it... |
| 16:56.13 | cogwheel|work | or share it |
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| 18:08.28 | Josh_Borke | hello Cairenn |
| 18:12.17 | AnduinLothar | where can i farm primal life? |
| 18:15.56 | Kaso | Boglords, um, herbilism are big sources |
| 18:16.17 | AnduinLothar | ya i dont have herb- i think the trees in terrokar, ne? |
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| 18:16.33 | Kaso | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22307 has 85% apparently |
| 18:16.40 | Kaso | but theyre sorta rare |
| 18:16.42 | AnduinLothar | it lying |
| 18:17.03 | Kaso | zangramarsh at the sporegarr place is prob best imo |
| 18:17.11 | AnduinLothar | ya those respawn fast |
| 18:17.15 | AnduinLothar | but drop rate is low |
| 18:18.40 | Hallu | are you making NR pots or something? |
| 18:18.49 | AnduinLothar | healing enchant |
| 18:18.52 | Hallu | ah |
| 18:19.35 | Hallu | as a mage the only thing I need primal life for is primal might |
| 18:20.03 | Hallu | err |
| 18:20.06 | Hallu | lol |
| 18:20.09 | Hallu | scratch that |
| 18:20.11 | Hallu | haha |
| 18:20.19 | Hallu | only thing I need primal life for is nothing |
| 18:24.10 | Guillotine | Alright, need some EULA (or possibly TOU) interpretation. What do you think of http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/combat/voice-commander/ ? |
| 18:24.13 | Guillotine | legal? not legal? |
| 18:24.39 | cogwheel|work | As long as you have direct control over the input it's legal |
| 18:25.16 | cogwheel|work | It's when you say "Do this sequence" and it automatically creates a series of keypresses with delays to compensate for cooldown, casting time, etc. that you'll get banned |
| 18:25.36 | Hallu | oh yeah |
| 18:25.47 | Hallu | don't forget http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30548 |
| 18:25.50 | Hallu | heh |
| 18:26.58 | cogwheel|work | Guillotine: the "Is it legal?" section of the description is accurate. |
| 18:27.17 | Guillotine | alright. wasn't sure about the fact that it lets you do multiple keypresses |
| 18:27.50 | cogwheel|work | pressing them all at once is ok |
| 18:28.33 | cogwheel|work | it's not really any different than a macro with a bunch of instant, non-gcd abilities that cast all at once |
| 18:28.41 | Guillotine | right |
| 18:29.20 | cogwheel|work | as long as it doesn't have any sort of timing or looping functions it should be fine |
| 18:29.20 | Hallu | keylogger imo |
| 18:29.35 | Hallu | err... voicelogger |
| 18:29.51 | Guillotine | Hallu: scanned it with virustotal.com and nothing found. plus curse scans everything |
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| 18:38.16 | Kaso | does macrotext have a maximum length? |
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| 18:48.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, people seen this? "The World of Warcraft Launcher is receiving an update today, which will allow it to check your current game version and download the latest patch if one is available, without needing you to log in to the game." |
| 18:48.40 | Josh_Borke | ooo, that's nice |
| 18:48.47 | pastamancer | how handy |
| 18:49.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I know I got the EU update, I would assume the US has got it too |
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| 18:56.14 | Lysistrata | I blocked the launcher from doing anything :( |
| 19:00.03 | chronx | purl what is RTFPN? |
| 19:00.08 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, chronx |
| 19:00.17 | chronx | purl you're stupid |
| 19:00.23 | purl | ACTION scratches his head |
| 19:00.32 | chronx | O_O! BUSTED!!!! |
| 19:00.32 | TC-Working | ~rtfm |
| 19:00.35 | purl | methinks rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM |
| 19:00.46 | TC-Working | ~rtfpn |
| 19:00.50 | purl | somebody said rtfpn was read the fluffy patch notes |
| 19:00.50 | chronx | purl you suck |
| 19:00.56 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 19:00.57 | TC-Working | heh |
| 19:01.26 | chronx | ah, so purl is a male that gives blowjobs. ha. and you all thought she was a female |
| 19:02.08 | chronx | TC-Working i know what rtfm is lol.. i didn't know what "PN" was until now :) |
| 19:02.14 | TC-Working | ah |
| 19:02.47 | TC-Working | well it is a WoW channel |
| 19:02.56 | chronx | right |
| 19:02.59 | chronx | whats a good xml editor? |
| 19:03.47 | TC-Working | http://dmoz.org/Computers/Data_Formats/Markup_Languages/XML/Tools/Editors/ |
| 19:04.51 | TC-Working | i couldnt tell you what a good one is though |
| 19:06.00 | chronx | i'll just use VS.net |
| 19:06.38 | chronx | just remember how many times i was told to use it lol ;) but i need the UI.xsd file and wdn.wowinterface.com is busted .. any idea where i can download it? |
| 19:06.46 | chronx | jk |
| 19:07.07 | chronx | i guess i typed the url wrong the first time |
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| 19:11.47 | chronx | bah i hate how long VS.net takes to enumerate all the drives when i click to view "my computer" |
| 19:12.03 | chronx | maybe because i have 9 drives heh |
| 19:12.12 | Lysistrata | Then just get rid of all those drives or buy a faster computer ;) |
| 19:12.30 | chronx | the latter would be quite nice |
| 19:12.50 | Lysistrata | Ah and not having a CD in the drive can speed up things too. Most of the time such programms are slow because there are CDs in the CD-Rom Drives. |
| 19:13.02 | chronx | i have cd's in both drives lol... |
| 19:13.10 | chronx | i guess i'm really not helping ^_^ |
| 19:13.31 | chronx | s/both/two |
| 19:14.19 | Lysistrata | Then you should have noticed that those drives probably spin up as soon as you click on "My Computer" I still don't know why they do it ... But I guess it's because they show the name of the CD, most of the time. |
| 19:14.31 | chronx | they don't spin up though |
| 19:15.13 | chronx | well they don't if i view my commputer through a "browse" window but they do if i just open my computer |
| 19:15.52 | Lysistrata | Yeha I know I sometime have the same "problem" and I don't know why it's like that ... |
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| 19:16.32 | Beladona | what busted about wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 19:16.39 | Beladona | working fine here |
| 19:16.55 | Beladona | chronx |
| 19:16.55 | TC-Working | [12:05] <chronx> jk |
| 19:16.55 | TC-Working | [12:06] <chronx> i guess i typed the url wrong the first time |
| 19:17.02 | Beladona | oh kk |
| 19:17.06 | TC-Working | :) |
| 19:17.20 | Beladona | I was doing some work on it, but didn't think I busted it |
| 19:17.23 | Beladona | =P |
| 19:17.26 | chronx | lol |
| 19:17.34 | TC-Working | heh....got worried |
| 19:17.41 | Beladona | the list on the main page scrolls now |
| 19:17.44 | Beladona | =D |
| 19:17.50 | Beladona | no more huge friggin list |
| 19:18.27 | Guillotine | whats the best way to move a wdn file to normal lua? |
| 19:18.38 | Beladona | I also made it so that some of the global api in the code view links to their respective wowwiki page |
| 19:18.41 | Guillotine | like, a lua editor |
| 19:18.49 | Beladona | what do you mean Guillotine |
| 19:19.15 | Beladona | oh you want to download a file, not the whole archive? |
| 19:19.18 | Guillotine | right |
| 19:19.26 | Guillotine | just need one specific file >< |
| 19:19.32 | Beladona | not possible, but I can maybe add that |
| 19:19.32 | Guillotine | don't feel like extracting everything |
| 19:19.39 | Guillotine | oo, please do ^_^ |
| 19:19.44 | Guillotine | guess I'll just extract everything |
| 19:20.01 | Guillotine | <3 wdn. makes hooking so much easier |
| 19:20.28 | AnduinLothar | you can jsut extract the source |
| 19:20.39 | Beladona | hell |
| 19:20.43 | Beladona | download the archive from wdn |
| 19:20.47 | Beladona | and get the file you need from it |
| 19:20.51 | Beladona | it takes like 10 seconds |
| 19:21.23 | Guillotine | I know. just wanted to avoid the unnecessary load/space if possible. A one file download really would be very nice though :) |
| 19:21.32 | Beladona | its doable |
| 19:21.58 | Beladona | I just need to get the svn backend/frontend going |
| 19:22.04 | Beladona | that would do all that automatically |
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| 19:23.47 | chronx | can someone tell me what the full <Ui ...> tag is on http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML ? |
| 19:23.50 | Guillotine | >> function hi(name) print("Greetings "..name) end hi("Cide") |
| 19:24.19 | Guillotine | >>> function hi(name) print("Greetings "..name) end hi("Cide") |
| 19:24.19 | Cide | Guillotine: "Greetings Cide" |
| 19:24.28 | Cide | hi |
| 19:25.23 | ckknight | >>> loadstring([[print("I love pants")]])() |
| 19:25.23 | Cide | ckknight: "I love pants" |
| 19:25.25 | TC-Working | Cide, is it a problem if Guillotine marries the bot? |
| 19:25.26 | ckknight | yays |
| 19:26.51 | Cide | TC-Working: probably not |
| 19:27.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't ask, don't tell |
| 19:27.09 | AnduinLothar | note to self. don't try to kill 4 trees with no mana.. they heal themselves |
| 19:27.23 | chronx | i can't get this http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML to work -_- |
| 19:30.10 | Josh_Borke | trees? |
| 19:30.20 | chronx | its too bad cogwheel|away isn't here -_- |
| 19:30.21 | AnduinLothar | infested root-walkers |
| 19:30.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | in bone wastees |
| 19:30.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe |
| 19:30.32 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 19:30.36 | AnduinLothar | farming life |
| 19:30.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i grinded my staves on one |
| 19:30.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | farmed him for about an hour |
| 19:30.47 | Josh_Borke | zangarmarsh crowded? |
| 19:30.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | just healing myself |
| 19:30.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | just farmed one |
| 19:30.54 | AnduinLothar | nah |
| 19:30.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | for about an hour :p |
| 19:30.58 | AnduinLothar | empty at this hour |
| 19:31.10 | Josh_Borke | why not farm there? |
| 19:31.20 | AnduinLothar | that's where bone wastes is |
| 19:31.57 | Josh_Borke | bone wastes is in terokar |
| 19:32.11 | AnduinLothar | i fail |
| 19:32.12 | Guillotine | damn, this VoiceCommander thing is awesome |
| 19:32.12 | AnduinLothar | anyway |
| 19:32.13 | Josh_Borke | don't the bog lords have higher drop rates? |
| 19:32.18 | Guillotine | but if I get banned, I'm blaming you ck |
| 19:32.21 | AnduinLothar | drop rate is higher in bone wastes |
| 19:32.24 | Josh_Borke | i see |
| 19:32.26 | AnduinLothar | afaik |
| 19:32.30 | ckknight | Guillotine: wait what? |
| 19:32.30 | Guillotine | coghweel* not ck |
| 19:32.33 | ckknight | ah. |
| 19:32.37 | ckknight | what's VoiceCommander? |
| 19:32.39 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22575#00Rz |
| 19:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think a better question is |
| 19:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | why farm motes of life? |
| 19:33.01 | Josh_Borke | those numbers are off i think |
| 19:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i have like 45 primal life |
| 19:33.05 | AnduinLothar | looks liek the same #s |
| 19:33.09 | Guillotine | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/combat/voice-commander/ |
| 19:33.12 | AnduinLothar | healign enchant |
| 19:33.37 | Josh_Borke | wait, nvm, i see |
| 19:33.38 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 19:33.39 | ckknight | >>> local t=[[return'local t=[['..t..']'..'];'..t]];return'local t=[['..t..']'..'];'..t |
| 19:33.40 | Cide | ckknight: "local t=[[return'local t=[['..t..']'..'];'..t]];return'local t=[['..t..']'..'];'..t" |
| 19:33.40 | Josh_Borke | same |
| 19:34.48 | Mikma | what they said |
| 19:35.27 | AnduinLothar | i had a bunch, dunno what i spent them on |
| 19:36.29 | ckknight | >>> print(io) |
| 19:36.30 | Cide | ckknight: nil |
| 19:36.34 | ckknight | ah |
| 19:36.37 | ckknight | good plan :-P |
| 19:38.38 | Mikma | ain't that Voice Commander illegal? |
| 19:38.42 | AnduinLothar | those rotting forest-ragers must have dropped like 9 motes at a time. because i've killed 20 or so with none dropped |
| 19:39.01 | Josh_Borke | kill the infested ones |
| 19:40.10 | AnduinLothar | am |
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| 19:40.36 | AnduinLothar | looks to be about 40% drop rate |
| 19:41.15 | AnduinLothar | about a primal every 45 min or so |
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| 19:41.35 | Athinira | Hey short question |
| 19:41.36 | Josh_Borke | i still think zangar is better |
| 19:41.39 | Josh_Borke | hey long question |
| 19:41.46 | Athinira | Couldn't find the commend in the list |
| 19:41.50 | Athinira | How to set your DND message |
| 19:41.55 | Josh_Borke | type /dnd <message> |
| 19:42.03 | Athinira | In a script.... |
| 19:42.08 | Josh_Borke | oh |
| 19:42.09 | Athinira | Only found UnitIsDND() |
| 19:42.12 | Guillotine | woohoo! I just beat a level 10 crawler with only voice commands! |
| 19:42.20 | Josh_Borke | lol Guillotine |
| 19:42.51 | Athinira | Guillotine: I tried DPSing like that on Golemagg after druids got TBC talents |
| 19:42.56 | Athinira | Just placed myself behind him |
| 19:43.00 | Athinira | Jumped in bed |
| 19:43.02 | Josh_Borke | can you set DND from script? |
| 19:43.10 | Athinira | MANGLE, SHRED, SHRED, SHRED, RIP, MANGLE |
| 19:43.11 | Athinira | :P |
| 19:43.18 | Athinira | Josh_Borke: Should be possible |
| 19:43.33 | Athinira | most stuff is. Its not controlling your char so shouldn't be protected |
| 19:43.35 | AnduinLothar | fidn the command in ChatFrame.lua |
| 19:43.55 | Athinira | k ill try :) |
| 19:44.13 | Athinira | not that pro at lua coding, have done Javascript and ASP but thats it |
| 19:44.40 | Guillotine | the hard part is moving |
| 19:44.43 | Guillotine | and getting near the mob |
| 19:44.47 | Josh_Borke | SendChatMessage(msg, "DND") |
| 19:44.56 | Athinira | <3 |
| 19:44.57 | Guillotine | I'm like "Forward. Stop. STOP STOP STOP.". stupid delay >< |
| 19:45.41 | chronx | anyone wanna help me get <Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/ |
| 19:45.42 | chronx | ..\UI.xsd"> |
| 19:45.46 | chronx | ah crap |
| 19:46.38 | chronx | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML <-- i can't get vs.net to work with wow xml... at least i don't think |
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| 19:49.27 | Athinira | Josh_Borke: Thanks, worked |
| 19:49.34 | Athinira | Im using DiscordArt to create two small buttons |
| 19:49.41 | chronx | any help eh? |
| 19:49.44 | Athinira | Onclick on first button = DND with a special message |
| 19:49.53 | Athinira | OnClick on second button = remove DND |
| 19:49.56 | Athinira | =) |
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| 19:50.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't you love it when people let their kids play without telling you |
| 19:50.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 19:50.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | so all of a sudden it's like he hit himself in the head with a brick |
| 19:51.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you're wondering why he's suddenly no longer able to play wow |
| 19:52.27 | Athinira | hmm new issue |
| 19:59.19 | Athinira | or actually fixed it |
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| 19:59.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 19:59.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | worst feeling ever, popcorn hull stuck inbetween your gum and your tooth |
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| 19:59.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just managed to get it out and it's amazingly catharthic |
| 19:59.22 | Athinira | Ok setting the alpha of a frame? |
| 19:59.22 | Athinira | DART_Texture_10:SetAlpha("x") doesn't work |
| 19:59.22 | Athinira | And can't find it on wowwiki |
| 19:59.22 | batrick | is there any sort of GetView() function? I see a SetView() : ( |
| 19:59.22 | Athinira | Nevermind |
| 19:59.22 | Athinira | Worked |
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| 20:29.59 | cogwheel|work | chronx: still need help? |
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| 20:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | Parak, are you Parak from Dynamix IRC from years ago, by chance? :O |
| 20:44.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha you ARE! :d |
| 20:45.08 | chronx | cogwheel|work yes :) |
| 20:45.42 | chronx | cogwheel|work also need some help using a <StatusBar> still -_- i got it displaying correctly and such but idk how to change/set the value of the status bar itself |
| 20:45.54 | cogwheel|work | i've never used statusbars, myself |
| 20:46.07 | cogwheel|work | What's your Ui tag look like? |
| 20:46.08 | AnduinLothar | :SetValue() |
| 20:46.27 | chronx | ah let me crack all of it open again |
| 20:49.11 | chronx | http://wowi.pastey.net/25111 |
| 20:49.47 | cogwheel|work | you need to put the ..\UI.xsd part on its own line. http://wowi.pastey.net/25116 |
| 20:49.55 | AnduinLothar | no you don't.. |
| 20:50.12 | cogwheel|work | well, there needs to be a space in between, then... |
| 20:50.24 | Thrae | You do? I was under the impression XML files could technically be made all on one line. |
| 20:50.34 | Thrae | Same as Lua for unrelated reasons. |
| 20:50.35 | AnduinLothar | space |
| 20:50.41 | Thrae | Right, with spaces of course. |
| 20:50.46 | cogwheel|work | any sort of space is fine then |
| 20:51.09 | cogwheel|work | just not stuck together like you had it |
| 20:51.23 | chronx | ok now that i changed it, how do i ehm... make it show possible tags and attributes and such when i write the xml? |
| 20:51.28 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Do you think Cosmos will be designed around a central LoadManager come 2.1? |
| 20:51.42 | cogwheel|work | chronx: when you write an opening bracket, it'll drop down a list |
| 20:51.47 | AnduinLothar | um, no. why? |
| 20:52.01 | chronx | cogwheel|work thats what i was expecting but it doesn't :( |
| 20:52.15 | cogwheel|work | is there a blue squiggly line under the UI tag? |
| 20:52.23 | AnduinLothar | you can already load things with khaos |
| 20:52.25 | chronx | oh and i put UI.xsd in /interface/addon folder |
| 20:52.33 | chronx | no there isn't ;) |
| 20:52.50 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Well, I'm sure there is plenty of addons included in Cosmos that don't need to be loaded on startup. A tiny LoadManager could then handle automatically loading the addons based on obvious conditions (IE, don't load a Raid addon until you're in a Raid) |
| 20:53.07 | cogwheel|work | chronx: can you take a screenshot of your VS window? |
| 20:53.18 | AnduinLothar | you mean liek stubby |
| 20:53.42 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: And if people disable the LoadManager, the addons will no longer be loaded on demand, so there's no sweat there (this is what's new with 2.1) |
| 20:53.44 | AnduinLothar | why would that have to do with 2.1? |
| 20:54.01 | AnduinLothar | oh |
| 20:54.06 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: IE, it's an OptDep that makes addons loadable on demand |
| 20:54.32 | AnduinLothar | write one with khaos gui and i'll include it |
| 20:54.34 | Thrae | So if the LoadManager screws up, or the addon screws up being LoadOnDemand-able, then no sweat there, disable the LoadManager |
| 20:55.26 | Thrae | The LoadManager would work behind the scenes, doesn't need a GUI |
| 20:55.37 | Industrial | Saw this thread on the homepage and I just couldnt leave it :P http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53224#post53224 |
| 20:55.44 | Thrae | I hope to work with Tekkub to make a generic one that'll work regardless of framework |
| 20:56.08 | AnduinLothar | stubby has a gui |
| 20:56.27 | Thrae | The addon would just have a MetaData field like X-LoadManager-InRaid which tells the generic load manager to load this addon in a raid |
| 20:56.54 | AnduinLothar | wouldn't you have to put the logic in the manager? |
| 20:57.12 | Thrae | No |
| 20:57.45 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: SupplyAndDemand by Tekkub already does this, except it is a Dependency of course and requires addons to be LoD...2.1 will fix this |
| 20:58.19 | AnduinLothar | so you make a toc meta data in the optionally lod addon? |
| 20:58.36 | chronx | cogwheel|work www.chr0nx.com/vsxml.jpg |
| 20:58.41 | Tem|AFK | oh man, I forgot how much fun dueling above myself is |
| 20:58.44 | AnduinLothar | and read the metadata and parse it to figure otu when it loads? |
| 20:58.46 | Thrae | Industrial: You have to make each addon support a LoadManager anyway, they will need to be changed |
| 20:58.56 | Tem|AFK | at 68, I keep beating these 70s and they keep giving lame excuses |
| 20:58.56 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Right |
| 20:59.37 | Industrial | Tem|AFK: Yeah make it a challenge for yourself. Doesnt matter if you lose. Kickass if you win =D |
| 20:59.45 | Tem|AFK | yep |
| 20:59.59 | Tem|AFK | the best part is I'm dueling other mages |
| 21:00.05 | Tem|AFK | and they've MUCH better geared than me |
| 21:00.13 | Tem|AFK | but I keep out witting them |
| 21:00.20 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: And going by your own philosophy, 99.9% of users should never need to tweak the settings of the LoadManager. We could make an optional GUI for it, but like I said, only 0.1% would probably use it. |
| 21:00.28 | AnduinLothar | well if you wrote one and wanted to include it in cosmos that can be aranged but we dont have any current plans to write one |
| 21:00.33 | cogwheel|work | chronx: assuming UI.xsd is in the folder directly above that XML file, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work... |
| 21:00.50 | cogwheel|work | Maybe save, close, and reload the file? |
| 21:01.22 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Yeah, the addons in Cosmos would just need to have a few lines added in their TOC fields and not do anything overly weird on load (I think Cosmos is suppose to handle that fine anyway, but you never know) |
| 21:01.43 | Thrae | I've found there are some addons or libraries that don't work if loaded on demand |
| 21:01.44 | cogwheel|work | chronx: wait... you're using VS.net |
| 21:01.46 | AnduinLothar | depends on what you mean by overly weird |
| 21:01.49 | cogwheel|work | not 2005 it looks like |
| 21:02.16 | AnduinLothar | it would have to be correctly coded to use ADDON_LOADED and not Vars Loaded |
| 21:02.25 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: By all accounts, an addon being LoD or not shouldn't matter |
| 21:02.38 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Right. |
| 21:02.44 | chronx | indeed i am using vs.net |
| 21:02.45 | chronx | -_- |
| 21:02.51 | chronx | shouldn't they work the same? |
| 21:03.04 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: And I'm not sure of Cosmos's standards. |
| 21:03.20 | Thrae | Still, it's trivial. |
| 21:03.34 | cogwheel|work | they're different versions... |
| 21:04.05 | Tem|AFK | AnduinLothar, I don't see why there would ever need to be a gui for tha |
| 21:04.06 | Tem|AFK | t |
| 21:04.19 | chronx | if it doesn't work oh well i suppose... but you said to use SetValue(...); to set the value of a status bar? does that set the percent of the bar or do i need to set a minvalue and maxvalue for the bar? |
| 21:04.41 | AnduinLothar | load now or always load immediately |
| 21:04.48 | cogwheel|work | chronx: why "oh well"? |
| 21:04.51 | cogwheel|work | read that page again... |
| 21:04.52 | Tem|AFK | if the user needs the mod loaded when the mod hasn't loaded, then the mod is either using poor load conditions or it isn't a candidate for being LoD |
| 21:04.56 | AnduinLothar | similar to what auc has |
| 21:05.12 | cogwheel|work | chronx: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML#Visual_Studio |
| 21:05.29 | AnduinLothar | auc is lod but some things liek the AskPrice part work better if it loads automaticly, non-lod |
| 21:05.35 | AnduinLothar | it's nice to have the option |
| 21:05.57 | Tem|AFK | mm, I spose |
| 21:05.59 | AnduinLothar | also useful for testing |
| 21:06.11 | Tem|AFK | for testing you can LoadAddOn, you lazy bastard |
| 21:06.46 | Tem|AFK | anyway... |
| 21:06.54 | AnduinLothar | Khaos has many gui testing features. it's intended to make some things easier for programmers |
| 21:07.26 | chronx | cogwheel|work so you want me to download non-.net vs then? |
| 21:07.28 | Industrial | I has a portal \o/ |
| 21:07.29 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: I like to make my GUI Settings themselves LoD |
| 21:07.29 | Industrial | http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=291 |
| 21:07.39 | AnduinLothar | for instance no one really needs Fire except for dubuging, testing and for when i need to have a silly user eval something so i can figure out what the problem is |
| 21:08.09 | AnduinLothar | that's fine thrae |
| 21:08.09 | cogwheel|work | chronx: ... That howto is for setting up VS 2005... you tried it in VS.net and it doesn't work so....... |
| 21:08.09 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 21:08.10 | chronx | right.. lol |
| 21:08.22 | chronx | but i don't want to download vs just for fancy xml editing |
| 21:08.29 | Industrial | then use lua :O |
| 21:08.30 | AnduinLothar | you can register with khaos a basicly empty optionset and them reregister a full optionset after it's clicked on |
| 21:08.32 | chronx | although it would probably be rather helpful... |
| 21:08.36 | AnduinLothar | or dont use khaos |
| 21:08.47 | AnduinLothar | long as it has a FeatureFrame button |
| 21:09.01 | cogwheel|work | Industrial: the whole point of getting that xML editor is for the autocomplete :P |
| 21:09.14 | cogwheel|work | chronx: you could try XMLSpy |
| 21:09.36 | chronx | thats not free eh? |
| 21:10.08 | Industrial | cogwheel|work: I find my normal code editor, lua and wowwiki.com working nicely. heh :) |
| 21:10.29 | chronx | Industrial what do you use to edit xml? |
| 21:11.09 | cogwheel|work | Industrial: I find writing XML with a decent editor goes much faster than writing lua and having to jump aronud to various wiki pages trying to remember what parameters you have to pass to what functions |
| 21:12.15 | Industrial | chronx: my point is that you can use lua instead of xml, and that I find that working faster then having to first learn XML. |
| 21:12.22 | Industrial | well, this XML scheme :P |
| 21:12.29 | Beladona | that is there to "learn" about xml? |
| 21:12.34 | Beladona | I never understood that |
| 21:12.43 | chronx | well.. |
| 21:12.51 | Beladona | its like html, but open |
| 21:13.01 | chronx | theres alot of wow-related tags and attributes and such that one has to know to actually make anything happen ;) |
| 21:13.09 | cogwheel|work | right |
| 21:13.14 | Industrial | Beladona: 2312 Industrial> well, this XML scheme :P |
| 21:13.19 | cogwheel|work | the tags and attributes are analogous to functions and parameters |
| 21:13.23 | chronx | i guess its not "learning" but more "knowing" lol |
| 21:13.25 | Beladona | and in the case of wow, you have as much to "look up" as the api for lua |
| 21:14.02 | cogwheel|work | ">i guess its not "learning" but more "knowing" lol" <---- is exactly why I prefer using XML. With Lua you have to know. With XML you don't as long as you have an editor that can read the UI.xsd |
| 21:14.22 | chronx | ack |
| 21:14.43 | Beladona | the same could be said of lua though cogwheel |
| 21:15.07 | cogwheel|work | but there aren't any Lua editors that know all the frame APIs and what values you can pass them. :P |
| 21:15.08 | AnduinLothar | Thrae: http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_Coding_Standard just recommended, not enforced. |
| 21:15.16 | Beladona | a good editor and the right syntax highlighting / code-hints for lua... |
| 21:15.39 | Beladona | but then I write my own syntax highlighting and code-hints definition files |
| 21:16.21 | cogwheel|work | And I let slouken do that for me with UI.xsd :P |
| 21:17.28 | AnduinLothar | thats not lua tho |
| 21:17.28 | cogwheel|work | chronx: looks like there's a free version of xmlspy http://www.download3k.com/Web-Authoring/XML-CSS-Utilities/Download-XMLSpy-Home-Edition.html |
| 21:17.34 | cogwheel|work | AnduinLothar: that's what I'm saying... it's an advantage XML has over Lua |
| 21:17.53 | Beladona | its all preference in the end |
| 21:18.02 | cogwheel|work | at least until someone releases their code hint definitions *cough* |
| 21:18.07 | Beladona | I still prefer lua over xml if lua can do it |
| 21:18.26 | Beladona | there are several on wowinterface |
| 21:18.26 | chronx | "the XMLSpy hom edition has been discontinued." -_- |
| 21:18.39 | Beladona | problem is mine is formatted for my editor |
| 21:19.09 | Guillotine | I personally use SciTE-WoWI |
| 21:19.27 | cogwheel|work | chronx: :( |
| 21:19.41 | Beladona | Notepad++ |
| 21:19.48 | cogwheel|work | Guillotine: me too |
| 21:19.58 | Beladona | I heavily customized the langs file though |
| 21:20.28 | Beladona | and I am still mad at them for having a limit on the number of custom keywords |
| 21:20.40 | cogwheel|work | Beladona: it's open source :P |
| 21:20.50 | Beladona | I know |
| 21:20.55 | Beladona | its a limit in the SciLexer |
| 21:21.02 | Beladona | laready been down that road |
| 21:21.06 | cogwheel|work | ah |
| 21:21.31 | JoshBorke | ok, how can i match "ctc on" and "ctc off" with the same pattern? ^_^ |
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| 21:22.24 | cogwheel|work | "ctc of?[fn]" though it would also match "ctc ofn" |
| 21:22.34 | JoshBorke | i want to match only ctc too |
| 21:23.01 | cogwheel|work | don't know if you can with one pattern then |
| 21:23.46 | Beladona | why not |
| 21:23.51 | Guillotine | ctc off|on |
| 21:23.52 | Guillotine | ? |
| 21:24.04 | chronx | so anyone here know any compiled programming languages? |
| 21:24.12 | chronx | c++/c, java or somthing like that? |
| 21:24.29 | Thrae | The D programming language rules! |
| 21:24.35 | cogwheel|work | I know C/C++ (less so than I used to but can still get around) |
| 21:24.35 | Guillotine | F imho |
| 21:24.41 | cogwheel|work | Thrae: /agree |
| 21:24.43 | JoshBorke | Guillotine: no or in lua :-P |
| 21:24.45 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: your best bet would be to match "ctc ?(.*)" and then check the capture |
| 21:24.50 | cogwheel|work | Guillotine: D really is a language :P |
| 21:25.06 | JoshBorke | hrm, i guess i'll just do that |
| 21:25.10 | Guillotine | cogwheel: I know :P but it just fit in sequence |
| 21:25.12 | chronx | i know a bit of C++ but lua is my new friend.. having like no strictness with types is awesome |
| 21:25.15 | Guillotine | awww, no or in lua? :( |
| 21:25.25 | chronx | and the "automagical" type conversion is so nice compared to C++ |
| 21:25.33 | Lysistrata | chronx well I wouldn't call Java a compiled language ;) |
| 21:25.37 | chronx | eh |
| 21:25.41 | Thrae | The D programming language is like a native version of Java, with more emphasis on C++ paradigms |
| 21:25.42 | pastamancer | lua patterns don't support alternation or zero-width assertions |
| 21:25.42 | chronx | its compiled and interpretted imo |
| 21:25.47 | chronx | compiled to bytecode then interpretted |
| 21:25.51 | cogwheel|work | so is lua |
| 21:25.54 | chronx | err interpreted? spelling |
| 21:26.00 | Beladona | bbl, going home |
| 21:26.07 | cogwheel|work | ciao bela |
| 21:26.22 | chronx | lua is preprocessed and interpreted? |
| 21:26.30 | Lysistrata | Thats right chronx but if I think about compiled language I think about things that run wihtout a virtual machine ;) |
| 21:26.37 | cogwheel|work | chronx: yep |
| 21:27.04 | chronx | so lua isn't compiled then |
| 21:27.10 | cogwheel|work | in fact, I heard that when WoW was in beta, you could have precompiled addons |
| 21:27.15 | Guillotine | you could |
| 21:27.19 | Guillotine | good times |
| 21:27.32 | chronx | lol |
| 21:27.38 | Guillotine | cosmos used to be like that if I remember correctly |
| 21:27.41 | Guillotine | at least some parts |
| 21:27.43 | Thrae | chronx: Java and Lua CAN be compiled languages, but overall they are an interpreted language. At the very best, they can be compiled at run-time by the interpreter. |
| 21:27.59 | Thrae | chronx: Usually we call languages like C/C++ "native languages". |
| 21:28.13 | chronx | http://planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=9785&lngWId=3 thats the only decent thing i've ever made with C++ ^_^ |
| 21:28.39 | chronx | Thrae: i see |
| 21:29.41 | Lysistrata | Hey thats nice, though after I read Borland C++ I thought u used that fucking VCL for it ... |
| 21:30.30 | chronx | hm? |
| 21:31.46 | Lysistrata | Well Borland has a "Visual Class Libary" so if you used it to create that programm you most likly would have been lazy and just "clicked it together" |
| 21:32.41 | chronx | ahi remember something like that with vs.net.. can't remember what they were called but it was the "click together" interface thing, i hated it along with everyone else |
| 21:32.52 | chronx | starts with an M .. |
| 21:32.56 | Lysistrata | MFC? |
| 21:33.05 | chronx | yep |
| 21:33.06 | chronx | thats it |
| 21:33.20 | Lysistrata | hehe |
| 21:33.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2 fel lotus in an hour, woo |
| 21:33.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | too bad they don't sell for crap :[ |
| 21:33.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | despite being rare as hell :( |
| 21:33.34 | Lysistrata | Anyway I got to get to bed. CYA! |
| 21:33.38 | chronx | i had one of those and blew it by accident :( |
| 21:33.48 | chronx | Lysistrata g'night.. even though its 5:30 pm here ;) |
| 21:34.25 | Lysistrata | Well it's 23:33 here ^^ urhm that would be 11:30 pm, right? |
| 21:34.45 | chronx | i beleive so |
| 21:35.14 | Lysistrata | So gn8 ^^ |
| 21:35.18 | chronx | night |
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| 21:45.26 | Parak | Mr_Rabies2: :D |
| 21:45.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's up parak, wasn't aware you played wow, much less hung around here :O |
| 21:49.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually, hold that thought, gotta restart so MS updates will stop pestering me |
| 21:50.23 | chronx | lol... you could have just stoppped the "automatic updates" service. maybe i'll tell you when you get back |
| 21:55.21 | chronx | cogwheel|work you still here? |
| 21:55.29 | chronx | i installed vs 2005 express edition and nowwwwwwww |
| 21:56.02 | chronx | opened the xml file, and now when i type a '<' it just gives me a drop down for "!--","![CDATA[", and "?" |
| 21:57.35 | cogwheel|work | And now is there a squiggly line under UI.xsd? |
| 21:58.12 | chronx | nope |
| 21:58.32 | chronx | squiggly under xlmns in the Ui tag though |
| 21:58.32 | cogwheel|work | where are you typing the <? somewhere were a tag could normally go, i hope :P |
| 21:58.43 | cogwheel|work | that's the same thing... |
| 21:58.55 | cogwheel|work | s/the same thing/what i was referring to/ |
| 21:59.23 | chronx | eh? |
| 21:59.36 | chronx | i type "<" anywhere and get the 3 item selection box |
| 21:59.50 | chronx | and </Frame> is squiggly, says expected </Ui> |
| 21:59.51 | cogwheel|work | Hover over the squiggly line. it'll tell you it can't find the definition |
| 22:00.09 | cogwheel|work | it means you either typed the line wrong or you don't have the UI.xsd in the right place.\ |
| 22:00.46 | chronx | well the first line isn't the wrong place is it? |
| 22:01.25 | cogwheel|work | pastey your XML as you have it right now... |
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| 22:02.18 | chronx | uh oh |
| 22:02.20 | chronx | i'll do it |
| 22:02.42 | chronx | http://wowi.pastey.net/25190 |
| 22:03.49 | cogwheel|work | you didn't copy and paste that from the howto |
| 22:03.52 | cogwheel|work | it's incorrect |
| 22:04.23 | cogwheel|work | might be a trivial problem |
| 22:04.38 | cogwheel|work | but if it's not doing what it's supposed to, then you don't have UI.xsd in the right spot |
| 22:04.53 | chronx | ./retry one sec |
| 22:06.19 | cogwheel|work | copy from here: http://wowi.pastey.net/25196 |
| 22:06.22 | chronx | copied the line exactly |
| 22:06.25 | chronx | and still doesn't workkkk |
| 22:06.48 | cogwheel|work | the wiki might be messing it up |
| 22:07.00 | cogwheel|work | 'cause of the links |
| 22:07.10 | chronx | a wiki is wrong!?!?! /gasp |
| 22:07.23 | cogwheel|work | not the content... the rendering of the content |
| 22:07.44 | cogwheel|work | there might be some extra characters carrying over |
| 22:07.48 | chronx | ya the way it auto-links up the text is messing it up |
| 22:08.10 | chronx | i tried to "edit" the section so i could just copy it directly but i didn't want to register |
| 22:08.29 | cogwheel|work | try the code I pasteyed just now |
| 22:09.01 | chronx | link? |
| 22:09.25 | chronx | oh that link.. |
| 22:09.41 | chronx | i was already viewing it so i thought you made a new post/update ;) |
| 22:10.19 | chronx | nope |
| 22:10.20 | chronx | still busted |
| 22:10.34 | chronx | <Scripts> has blue squiggly and </Frame> still has red squiggly |
| 22:10.46 | cogwheel|work | that means it is working... |
| 22:10.57 | cogwheel|work | hover over them and they'll tell you what's wrong |
| 22:11.21 | chronx | well i guess its been working then |
| 22:11.21 | chronx | but |
| 22:11.32 | chronx | what about the brackets? |
| 22:11.41 | chronx | anywhere i open a bracket i just get a 3 item selection |
| 22:11.49 | cogwheel|work | Fix the bugs in your code... |
| 22:11.57 | cogwheel|work | it probably doesn't know what to suggest because of your other erros |
| 22:12.32 | chronx | whats wrong with my xml then? |
| 22:12.33 | chronx | -_- |
| 22:12.42 | cogwheel|work | check your squigglies |
| 22:13.22 | cogwheel|work | You have a </Frame> on the same line as the <Frame> tag |
| 22:13.47 | cogwheel|work | (line 5) |
| 22:13.51 | chronx | Damn auto complete |
| 22:14.03 | chronx | -_- didn't see it added the extra </frame> |
| 22:14.05 | chronx | siigh |
| 22:15.43 | chronx | ok i got xml working now... but now for the statusbar stuff.. perhaps this nifty xml editor will help me ^_^ |
| 22:16.47 | phyber | "Last updated: 2007-05-17" |
| 22:16.53 | phyber | WoWI from the future :o |
| 22:17.56 | chronx | 4O2_4O2 oh noes! |
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| 22:24.50 | chronx | mmm this is nice |
| 22:25.58 | chronx | now i need to parse the chat log, and then trigger an event only when a specific thing is in the chat frame... |
| 22:30.40 | batrick | ... |
| 22:31.35 | chronx | lol |
| 22:34.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry at this horrible abuse of the english language in my new guild |
| 22:35.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | "any 1 a weapon s,ith wife warrior chr is lv 56 and still uses lv 42 and 44 weapons" |
| 22:35.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | brain hurts |
| 22:35.26 | chronx | way to spread the pain |
| 22:35.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | SHARE WITH ME IN MY AGONY |
| 22:35.57 | chronx | ./pat |
| 22:37.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | man it's such a pain to find a guild that's in kara that wants a feral druid :[ |
| 22:37.47 | Kaydeethree | wow |
| 22:38.12 | Kaydeethree | we've got 2 feral druid tank/offtanks/dpsers of the 4 droods that are typically on raid with us |
| 22:39.08 | chronx | Mr_Rabies2 lol respec resto ;P |
| 22:39.43 | chronx | my friend is unhappy with his 64 paladin too lol... doesn't wanna respec to holy just for end game |
| 22:42.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | no way |
| 22:42.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like being able to kill stuff |
| 22:42.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | screw resto |
| 22:42.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i -hate- healbotting |
| 22:42.45 | chronx | lol |
| 22:42.49 | chronx | reroll a dps class then |
| 22:42.51 | chronx | mage imo ;) |
| 22:42.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 22:42.56 | chronx | i have a 65 mage lol |
| 22:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's called a druid |
| 22:43.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're 3 roles in 1 :O |
| 22:43.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, 4 |
| 22:43.16 | chronx | druid is dps <70, resto at 70 lol |
| 22:43.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | no way |
| 22:43.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | noooo way |
| 22:43.38 | chronx | imo all non-priest healers need a big nerf to make priests THE main healer |
| 22:43.51 | chronx | lame that a non-priest can main heal... |
| 22:43.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't want to be in your guild if you paid me 1000g to respec resto |
| 22:43.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 22:43.56 | chronx | lol |
| 22:44.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i probably would |
| 22:44.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i'd gquit |
| 22:44.05 | chronx | for a week ;) |
| 22:44.05 | chronx | lol |
| 22:44.06 | chronx | haahah |
| 22:44.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe ninja some epics first |
| 22:44.28 | chronx | lol |
| 22:44.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone who thinks druids are supposed to be nothing but healers can lose all their epics for all i care :] |
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| 22:45.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would happily ninja every epic after joining a guild that thought that |
| 22:46.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | then disenchant it infront of them before hearthing :D |
| 22:46.42 | Parak | Mr_Rabies2: I mostly idle :p |
| 22:47.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you write addons or just use this channel as a means to pester addon authors like i do |
| 22:52.13 | chronx | i'm learning how to write basic addons, probably only to finish up the most basic addon and never take a look at it again |
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| 22:52.35 | Industrial | Rejoice, zChat-1.0! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7129 |
| 22:52.55 | chronx | and why in the world does lua not support the uh.. "compact" operators like -= += *= or /= ? |
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| 22:53.25 | Industrial | its too small I guess |
| 22:53.39 | Industrial | it also doenst support "normal" regular expressions. |
| 22:54.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | you non-druids really need to roll one |
| 22:54.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least to 68 |
| 22:54.17 | Industrial | most notably the or match; (|) |
| 22:54.24 | ckknight | chronx: basically, because they want 1 way to do everything |
| 22:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you can experience dropping off the side of outland or the aldor rise and surviving |
| 22:54.42 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: im rolling a rogue instead |
| 22:54.49 | Industrial | 23 now \o/ |
| 22:56.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | let me know when a rogue can leap off the side of outland and survive |
| 22:58.10 | Industrial | I have _no_ idea. I have yet to enter the portal. Sad isn't it? |
| 23:02.05 | chronx | i wish lua used brackets instead of "end" |
| 23:02.05 | chronx | -_- |
| 23:02.05 | chronx | haha |
| 23:02.05 | chronx | i wish lua was C without the type strictness |
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| 23:02.52 | cogwheel|work | trust me... once you're comfortable with Lua, you'll wish the other way 'round |
| 23:03.00 | chronx | heh |
| 23:03.06 | Industrial | I think lua is pretty |
| 23:03.07 | Industrial | yeah |
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| 23:04.37 | ckknight | brackets are icky |
| 23:05.07 | ckknight | and frankly what I want is a lua-like language with optional type strictness |
| 23:06.07 | clad|work | you can add type strictness |
| 23:06.10 | clad|work | in a number of ways |
| 23:06.24 | clad|work | even pattern matching, which is handy |
| 23:07.47 | pastamancer | I just want lisp |
| 23:08.44 | cladhaire | then lisp you shall have! |
| 23:08.56 | TC-Working | uhh....no comment |
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| 23:09.31 | chronx | ok i have <OnUpdate> myaddon_foo() </OnUpdate> and in my lua file i have function myaddon_foo() ... end and the function isn't being called... any idea why? |
| 23:09.44 | ckknight | frame could be hidden |
| 23:09.49 | chronx | its not |
| 23:11.19 | chronx | <StatusBar visible="true" ...> <Scripts><OnUpdate> myaddon_foo() </OnUpdate></Scripts></StatusBar> |
| 23:11.19 | ckknight | visible's not an attribute... |
| 23:11.19 | chronx | err |
| 23:11.19 | ckknight | afaik |
| 23:11.19 | chronx | hidden="false" |
| 23:11.19 | chronx | sorry |
| 23:11.19 | ckknight | k... |
| 23:12.13 | chronx | oh nvm then |
| 23:12.22 | chronx | the parent frame that the statusbar was inheriting from was hidden heh |
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| 23:12.58 | AnduinLothar | should i get spellsurge or +healing on my pally weapon |
| 23:12.58 | AnduinLothar | spell surge would be nice for fol spam.. |
| 23:15.56 | Legorol | Does anyone know a good place that summarises the epic item stat changes for patch 2.1, preferably with a before/after type comparison? |
| 23:17.03 | pastamancer | mmochampion has that |
| 23:17.43 | Industrial | Is there an addon that times the hunter Auto Shot so I can see when I'm able to move and when I need to be standing still to not delay my auto shot? |
| 23:18.19 | Industrial | Nice for kiting. |
| 23:18.24 | Legorol | Also, does anyone know a good place that discusses why these item changes are being implemented? Preferably involving blue posts, but an intelligent user forum is ok too |
| 23:18.28 | Legorol | pastamancer: thanks |
| 23:18.50 | TC-Working | anyone know a good multi-protocol IM program for windows? |
| 23:18.51 | Kaydeethree | there have been a few blue posts in the PTR forum |
| 23:19.02 | Kaydeethree | tc: gaim^W pidgin |
| 23:19.06 | Kaydeethree | www.pidgin.im |
| 23:19.18 | TC-Working | tried gaim, not for me |
| 23:19.29 | Kaydeethree | when was the last time you tried it? |
| 23:19.32 | Kaydeethree | trillian's the old standby |
| 23:19.37 | TC-Working | maybe a month ago |
| 23:19.40 | TC-Working | tried trillian |
| 23:19.50 | TC-Working | tried meranda |
| 23:20.01 | TC-Working | Miranda* |
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| 23:29.25 | chronx | questionnnnn |
| 23:29.56 | chronx | <BarTexture file="Interface\TargetingFrame\UI-StatusBar"/> where is the root of "file" ?! the root wow folder? |
| 23:30.06 | cogwheel|work | yes |
| 23:30.25 | Legorol | pastamancer: unfortunately mmo-champion has the upgraded stats only |
| 23:30.26 | chronx | but there is not "TargetingFrame" folder in my Interface\ folder |
| 23:30.33 | Legorol | i'm really after a before/after type comparison |
| 23:30.40 | cogwheel|work | WoW uses a virtual filesystem that searches the physical folder and then the equivalent folder in the MPQs |
| 23:30.49 | chronx | ok thats what i thought |
| 23:30.57 | chronx | but i could provide my own textures right? |
| 23:31.17 | cogwheel|work | yes |
| 23:32.41 | chronx | in \Images of my addon folder right? |
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| 23:32.55 | cogwheel|work | Whever you want in your addons folder... |
| 23:32.59 | cogwheel|work | you tell it where to look |
| 23:33.08 | Shirik | It has come to my attention |
| 23:33.10 | Shirik | moving sucks. |
| 23:33.15 | chronx | that it does. |
| 23:33.19 | chronx | i've moved like 12 times during my life |
| 23:33.23 | chronx | and i'm 17 |
| 23:35.19 | Cairenn | military family? |
| 23:35.28 | chronx | not me |
| 23:36.07 | cogwheel|work | I went to two different middle schools twice each... |
| 23:36.18 | chronx | lol |
| 23:36.25 | Shirik | I went to three elementary schools :( |
| 23:36.40 | cogwheel|work | me too |
| 23:36.43 | chronx | i went to 4 |
| 23:36.50 | Shirik | luckily we moved when I was in high school but I was able to file a request to stay at the same high school |
| 23:36.57 | Shirik | I just had to drive 45 minutes to it every day >< |
| 23:37.35 | Kaydeethree | oh I know how that goes |
| 23:37.40 | Kaydeethree | hour commutes to highschool != fun |
| 23:37.46 | Shirik | Hey |
| 23:37.48 | Shirik | it's ~= |
| 23:37.49 | Shirik | not != |
| 23:37.57 | Kaydeethree | depends on the language |
| 23:38.05 | cogwheel|work | That's the one thing I don't like about lua |
| 23:38.11 | Shirik | Yeah I don't like it either > |
| 23:38.12 | chronx | == not fun; |
| 23:38.15 | Cairenn | Lyre (my daughter) spent 1.5 hr on the bus each way each day for 4.5 years |
| 23:38.19 | Shirik | Unfortunately I was working on a C project yesterda |
| 23:38.20 | Shirik | y |
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| 23:38.29 | Shirik | and I was throwing ~= and "not" all over the place |
| 23:38.35 | Shirik | then I had to go fix them all when I compiled >.> |
| 23:38.40 | Shirik | Lua has corrupted my brain |
| 23:38.43 | cogwheel|work | ~= reminds me of approximately equal |
| 23:38.56 | Shirik | yea |
| 23:38.59 | Corrodias | lyre, that's a nice name for a human |
| 23:39.06 | Cairenn | not her RL name |
| 23:39.15 | Corrodias | a pity |
| 23:39.27 | Cairenn | Lyrebyrd is her MMO/IM name |
| 23:39.38 | Shirik | MMO/IM ? |
| 23:39.44 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:39.45 | Shirik | got it |
| 23:39.47 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:42.26 | chronx | okok... is there a SetText() ? i'm assuming there is ... hehe |
| 23:42.35 | Shirik | for most widgets, yes |
| 23:42.42 | Corrodias | i've been using this name for years and years, and i'm starting to wonder if it sounds immature |
| 23:42.42 | chronx | <FontString> ? |
| 23:42.54 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 23:43.05 | Corrodias | i must have been under 10yo when i thought it up |
| 23:44.00 | Cairenn | *confused* why would it be considered immature |
| 23:44.05 | Cairenn | looks like a name to me |
| 23:44.05 | cogwheel|work | I came up with my name specifically for WoW |
| 23:44.28 | Shirik | as did I |
| 23:44.41 | Corrodias | hard to be objective about a name i've had for so long. just wondering. |
| 23:44.42 | cogwheel|work | I used to use vashfish |
| 23:45.07 | Shirik | bai Cairenn|afk |
| 23:45.23 | cogwheel|work | (we had a fish that we named Vash after vash the stampede) |
| 23:45.57 | TC-Working | i always use TC but never for wow...doesnt fit in |
| 23:46.18 | TC-Working | although i doe have a war named Blorb sooooo.....maybe not such a big deal |
| 23:46.22 | Corrodias | Tc |
| 23:46.24 | TC-Working | s/doe/do |
| 23:46.27 | Corrodias | not so compelling |
| 23:46.36 | TC-Working | stands for Thunder_Child |
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| 23:47.39 | Shirik | I like Tc better |
| 23:47.45 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 23:48.18 | TC-Working | Tc vs. TC? or vs. Thunder_Child? |
| 23:48.39 | Shirik | vs Thunder_Child ^^ |
| 23:48.42 | Shirik | no not really :P |
| 23:49.36 | chronx | do i have to include a header file of some sort to use Math.Floor()? |
| 23:49.45 | Shirik | negative, but you do have to spell it math.floor |
| 23:50.09 | chronx | freakin jeez. example code i looked at used cap m and f |
| 23:50.59 | cogwheel|work | WoW has some global aliases to those functions... you can just use floor if you like |
| 23:51.02 | chronx | score :) now alls left to do is make the addon triggered from mthe chat log |
| 23:51.09 | cogwheel|work | >>> floor(1.5) |
| 23:51.10 | Cide | cogwheel|work: 1 |
| 23:51.22 | Shirik | >>> math.floor = floor |
| 23:51.22 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 23:51.26 | Shirik | oops |
| 23:51.29 | Shirik | >>> math.floor == floor |
| 23:51.29 | TC-Working | heh |
| 23:51.29 | Cide | Shirik: true |
| 23:51.44 | chronx | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.48 | chronx | :( |
| 23:51.54 | Shirik | echo? |
| 23:51.57 | Shirik | is not lua |
| 23:52.00 | chronx | ah |
| 23:52.05 | chronx | genius you are! |
| 23:52.31 | chronx | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.36 | chronx | boo!! |
| 23:52.41 | Shirik | I think cide died :( |
| 23:52.53 | chronx | probably on my non-lua eh? |
| 23:52.55 | Cide | nah |
| 23:52.59 | Shirik | nah Cide killed it :P |
| 23:52.59 | TC-Working | hmmm...now i need a good windows IRC program |
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| 23:53.09 | Cide | nope |
| 23:53.13 | Cide | chronx's adding a space |
| 23:53.17 | Shirik | oh? |
| 23:53.22 | chronx | space? |
| 23:53.23 | Shirik | because that's legal :/ |
| 23:53.28 | Shirik | well, echo"teehee" is legal |
| 23:53.28 | Cide | \032>>> print |
| 23:53.34 | Shirik | ooooh right |
| 23:53.34 | Cide | that is |
| 23:53.39 | Shirik | my client removes that |
| 23:53.41 | Shirik | so I didn't see it |
| 23:53.42 | Cide | yeah :P |
| 23:54.02 | chronx | ehm.. so what'd i do wrong? |
| 23:54.06 | Shirik | but I wonder if the space is legal... |
| 23:54.10 | cogwheel|work | you put a space before the >>> |
| 23:54.14 | chronx | >>> print("testing") |
| 23:54.15 | Cide | chronx: "testing" |
| 23:54.21 | chronx | why echo twice? |
| 23:54.26 | Shirik | o.o |
| 23:54.35 | cogwheel|work | looks like a bug |
| 23:54.44 | Cide | oops |
| 23:54.45 | cogwheel|work | >>> x = 5; print("testing") |
| 23:54.46 | Cide | cogwheel|work: "testing" |
| 23:55.03 | Cide | when Shirik thought I died, I loaded the bot |
| 23:55.08 | chronx | >>> print(">>> print(\"doh\");") |
| 23:55.08 | Cide | chronx: ">>> print(\"doh\");" |
| 23:55.14 | TC-Working | heh cide |
| 23:55.15 | Cide | apparently it ran two instances at once |
| 23:55.15 | chronx | aw. shucks |
| 23:55.15 | Shirik | now, back to my topic |
| 23:55.18 | Shirik | can you put a space in there? |
| 23:55.26 | Shirik | like print"foo" is legal, what about print "foo |
| 23:55.30 | Shirik | er, print "foo" |
| 23:55.35 | cogwheel|work | of course |
| 23:55.46 | Cide | it ignores whitespace |
| 23:55.50 | cogwheel|work | just like you can do print (blah) |
| 23:55.57 | Shirik | never tried a space before the paren :P |
| 23:56.39 | Cide | >>> loadstring("print " .. ("\n\t "):rep(100) .. " \"hi\"")() |
| 23:56.39 | Cide | Cide: "hi" |
| 23:56.55 | Shirik | nice |
| 23:57.22 | chronx | lol i remember in ##C++ there was two bots... bots that remembered commands, so i got them in an infinite loop, each echoing each others commands heh |
| 23:57.24 | Corrodias | >>> print"foo" |
| 23:57.25 | Cide | Corrodias: "foo" |
| 23:57.28 | Corrodias | holy crap |
| 23:57.37 | Shirik | chronx: Don't worry, we prevented that |
| 23:57.40 | chronx | heh |
| 23:57.45 | Shirik | purl, say >>> print"hello" |
| 23:57.47 | purl | >>> print"hello" |
| 23:57.53 | chronx | i made them prevent it in ##C++ lol |
| 23:58.12 | JoshBorke | >>>print"hell" |
| 23:58.12 | Cide | JoshBorke: "hell" |
| 23:58.16 | JoshBorke | oops |
| 23:58.21 | TC-Working | heh |
| 23:58.31 | TC-Working | and hell yo you to JoshBorke |
| 23:58.41 | TC-Working | s/yo/to/ |
| 23:58.56 | Corrodias | >>> print "JoshBorke's mother" |
| 23:58.56 | Cide | Corrodias: "JoshBorke's mother" |
| 23:59.10 | Corrodias | :D i am satisfied |
