| 00:01.39 | Shirik | hey cladhaire, is your book out yet? |
| 00:01.44 | cladhaire | no, 06/05 |
| 00:01.46 | cladhaire | last i heard |
| 00:01.48 | Shirik | ah nice |
| 00:01.49 | cladhaire | says amazon, actually |
| 00:05.38 | Corrodias | this paladin has a swirly blue/green sphere around him... |
| 00:05.40 | Corrodias | what's this? |
| 00:05.44 | DT_ | Quest item |
| 00:06.03 | Corrodias | which? |
| 00:07.46 | DT_ | Trying to find it, can't recall the name |
| 00:08.25 | cladhaire | my guildie has it |
| 00:08.25 | cladhaire | never turned it in :P |
| 00:11.35 | Kaydeethree | it's for a toshley's station quest |
| 00:11.40 | Kaydeethree | perfect for screwing up screenshots |
| 00:12.35 | DT_ | Found it |
| 00:12.36 | DT_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30818 |
| 00:14.38 | DT_ | So I'm only a beginner in terms of addon writing and I don't really know what's best or most efficient, should I do that loadstring that Clad suggested to get rid of the getglobal? |
| 00:15.00 | Bam__ | no :) |
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| 00:15.55 | Bam__ | if you need to get one of Blizzard's frames defined in XML, there arent many other options |
| 00:16.07 | Bam__ | just avoid defining your own globals whenever possible |
| 00:16.13 | DT_ | It's my frame |
| 00:16.38 | Bam__ | ah |
| 00:16.57 | Bam__ | well.. do it in Lua instead of XML :P |
| 00:18.14 | Bam__ | but don't worry too much about it |
| 00:19.54 | DT_ | Even if I had enough experience to make a gui in lua, I'd have to rewrite sooooo much >.> |
| 00:20.35 | Bam__ | I think you will find it easier to maintain in the long run |
| 00:20.51 | Shirik | XML is easier for some, harder for others |
| 00:21.05 | Shirik | part of the reason both ways exist is just to satisfy both crowds |
| 00:21.16 | Shirik | you can almost do anything in Lua you can do in XM |
| 00:21.17 | Shirik | XML* |
| 00:22.08 | Bam__ | yea.. but.... XML was never meant for humans to read and write :P |
| 00:31.26 | Corrodias | hmm. hard to believe i've spent 18 days logged in on my druid at level 70. |
| 00:31.59 | Shirik | 20:22:27 ‹Bam__› yea.. but.... XML was never meant for humans to read and write :P |
| 00:32.02 | Shirik | I don't entirely agree with that |
| 00:32.57 | Bam__ | it was mostly meant for transporting data in a standardized text format so programs could parse it easily |
| 00:33.31 | Shirik | I would argue that if it was meant solely for computer parsing, then it would be far more compressed than it is |
| 00:34.05 | cladhaire | XML is very human readable |
| 00:34.13 | Bam__ | lol |
| 00:34.15 | cladhaire | you dont need to understand anything about the schema to understand it |
| 00:34.19 | cladhaire | I'm being dead serious |
| 00:34.24 | Bam__ | ok |
| 00:34.56 | cladhaire | Its immediately clear the child/parent relationship, attributes are extremely simple and easy. |
| 00:35.05 | cladhaire | _writing_ xml requires understanding the schema you're working with |
| 00:35.22 | Shirik | well how can you write something if you don't know what you're writing :P |
| 00:35.36 | cladhaire | psh, detail |
| 00:35.38 | cladhaire | s |
| 00:35.47 | Karrion | Shirik: bah, I've written heaps of code without understanding it >.> |
| 00:35.51 | Shirik | haha |
| 00:35.58 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 00:36.03 | cladhaire | i'm gonna log and see if all my auto-joins kick off |
| 00:36.06 | cladhaire | bbias |
| 00:36.21 | TC-Testing | ~moo |
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| 00:36.33 | TC-Testing | purl i hate you |
| 00:36.36 | purl | You hate you? |
| 00:36.48 | TC-Testing | .... |
| 00:36.58 | Bam__ | purl you suck |
| 00:37.00 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 00:37.10 | Shirik | haha |
| 00:37.20 | Karrion | someone needs to teach purl to second person pronoun |
| 00:37.32 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 00:37.58 | TC-Testing | purl i suck |
| 00:38.00 | purl | You suck? |
| 00:38.07 | TC-Testing | eh |
| 00:38.14 | TC-Testing | i'v heard better |
| 00:38.19 | TC-Testing | i've* |
| 00:38.21 | Bam__ | ~~~~~ |
| 00:38.28 | purl | grrrr |
| 00:38.34 | Bam__ | :P |
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| 00:39.01 | TC-Testing | what is sioraiocht? |
| 00:39.15 | cladhaire | secksy |
| 00:39.17 | Bam__ | dunno.. but it sounds painful :P |
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| 00:39.32 | TC-Testing | secksy & painfull? ...hmm.....S&M |
| 00:39.33 | sioraiocht | Do mhathair |
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| 00:39.50 | Bam__ | oops |
| 00:42.04 | sioraiocht | Foghlaim Gailge nó ná hiarr. |
| 00:42.14 | sioraiocht | s/Gailge/Gailge |
| 00:42.22 | sioraiocht | Gaeilge! |
| 00:42.30 | TC-Testing | can purl do celtic? |
| 00:42.40 | cladhaire | doubtful :P |
| 00:42.55 | TC-Testing | guess i will just have to go learn it then |
| 00:43.01 | sioraiocht | lol |
| 00:43.06 | cladhaire | is lol Irish? |
| 00:43.13 | sioraiocht | I dunno |
| 00:43.24 | TC-Testing | ask him |
| 00:43.29 | TC-Testing | ~seen lol |
| 00:44.16 | purl | lol <n=lol@85.218.156.120> was last seen on IRC in channel #slug, 28d 15m 14s ago, saying: 'er det dansk channel?'. |
| 00:44.16 | sioraiocht | they say, Bhuel, for "well" |
| 00:44.16 | cladhaire | purl, is lol irish? |
| 00:44.26 | cladhaire | ~8ball is lol irish? |
| 00:44.29 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 00:44.30 | sioraiocht | I guess I could say lál |
| 00:44.30 | cladhaire | doesn't purl have an 8ball? |
| 00:44.30 | cladhaire | or something like it? |
| 00:44.32 | sioraiocht | ... |
| 00:44.35 | sioraiocht | apparently he's danish |
| 00:44.54 | cladhaire | ~8ball will my interview tomorrow go well? |
| 00:44.57 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 00:45.21 | cladhaire | ~8ball will I need to relocate this summer if I get a job offer? |
| 00:45.23 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 00:45.25 | sioraiocht | ~8ball will my parents' meeting again for the first time in years result in nuclear explosion tomorrow? |
| 00:45.27 | purl | Negative. |
| 00:45.46 | sioraiocht | ~8ball will cladhaire make me move for the summer? |
| 00:45.48 | purl | Negative. |
| 00:46.11 | cladhaire | ~8ball will sioraiocht and cladhaire spend their summer apart? |
| 00:46.13 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 00:46.19 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 00:48.18 | Bam__ | is Blizzard's UI code on the PTR available somewhere? |
| 00:48.25 | cladhaire | you can download the PTR |
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| 00:48.26 | Shirik | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 00:48.27 | cladhaire | and extract the code |
| 00:48.32 | Shirik | or extract it |
| 00:48.39 | Bam__ | cheers |
| 00:49.24 | Bam__ | rather not download if it involves Blizzard's downloader :P |
| 00:51.09 | Karrion | wdn doesn't have the lastest build though afaict |
| 00:52.04 | Bam__ | hmm it's 6 days old |
| 00:52.51 | Karrion | it has 0.1.0.6607, my last wowtest patch claims to be 0.1.0.6641 |
| 00:53.07 | Bam__ | ok hmm |
| 00:53.10 | ckknight | mine's 6655 |
| 00:53.39 | Karrion | then I need to update my client ;-) |
| 00:53.46 | Bam__ | well im just gonna check a bit what they are doing with ActionButton |
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| 01:13.57 | ckknight | hey, are there any good MPQ extractor programs for Mac? |
| 01:17.40 | Bleeter | 'great toon names I've seen in my time'-> Elfispresley |
| 01:18.12 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 01:18.20 | zenzelezz | that's up there with Hasselhoof |
| 01:18.43 | ckknight | Moolester |
| 01:21.17 | Industrial | Does anyone here use the Opera browser? |
| 01:23.22 | Tem|AFK | Is there any requirement you must meet before you can enter the Black Morass? |
| 01:23.38 | DT_ | Yes |
| 01:23.45 | DT_ | Complete a quest in Old Hillsbrad |
| 01:24.02 | ckknight | Industrial: I do |
| 01:25.03 | Tem|AFK | so you have to copmlete that quest to even enter? |
| 01:25.07 | Tem|AFK | complete* |
| 01:25.10 | Industrial | 1) How do I get Opera to always select the tab to the right of the current one whan i close it? |
| 01:25.24 | Industrial | 2) Can I get the tab bar under the location bar? |
| 01:25.56 | DT_ | Yes Tem |
| 01:26.01 | DT_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10282 <-- that's the chain |
| 01:26.01 | Tem|AFK | bah |
| 01:26.12 | Tem|AFK | I've done the prereq, but my group hasn't |
| 01:26.32 | ckknight | Industrial: 2) Use the Munin themeset |
| 01:26.36 | ckknight | Industrial: not sure about 1) |
| 01:26.58 | ckknight | Industrial: http://home.concepts-ict.nl/~rijk/opera/huginmunin.html |
| 01:29.00 | Industrial | k thanks ill check it out. |
| 01:38.55 | JoshBorke | purl, poke Industrial |
| 01:39.09 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Industrial, pokes Industrial repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 01:39.09 | Industrial | lag :D? |
| 01:40.15 | JoshBorke | nn claddy waddy |
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| 01:43.17 | JoshBorke | wb checky wecky |
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| 01:52.47 | JoshBorke | SON OF A BITCH! |
| 01:53.03 | zenzelezz | that's not a very nice thing to call her |
| 01:53.28 | JoshBorke | damn cable system cut off my show during a somewhat important moment |
| 01:53.29 | Cairenn | and a good evening to you too |
| 01:53.35 | JoshBorke | stupid child abducters |
| 01:53.38 | JoshBorke | they need to be shot |
| 01:53.52 | JoshBorke | after cutting off their hands and feet, starting with toes and fingers |
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| 02:09.01 | JoshBorke | nn all |
| 02:09.14 | Cairenn | night JoshBorke, sweet dreams |
| 02:09.31 | JoshBorke | i like the new pidgin |
| 02:10.24 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 02:10.24 | JoshBorke | versus gaim |
| 02:10.34 | Cairenn | ah |
| 02:10.38 | Cairenn | is it avail yet? |
| 02:10.45 | JoshBorke | yea, i got the windows version from their site |
| 02:10.46 | JoshBorke | it's purdy |
| 02:11.02 | JoshBorke | not so keen on teh new buddy list notifier type things |
| 02:11.39 | JoshBorke | but you'll see |
| 02:11.42 | JoshBorke | it's still purdy |
| 02:11.45 | JoshBorke | anyway, bed time, night |
| 02:13.45 | Cairenn | be back |
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| 02:22.19 | Cairenn | hey Shirik |
| 02:23.49 | Cairenn | hi |
| 02:24.32 | Bleeter | ello |
| 02:24.45 | Cairenn | read up a bit ;) |
| 02:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, I wonder |
| 02:25.00 | Shirik | no you don't |
| 02:25.05 | Bleeter | yar, I'm just waiting for you to hit the pages and download them :P |
| 02:25.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Will SpamSentry be able to use the new spam reporting functions to automatically report spam? |
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| 02:25.20 | Shirik | probably |
| 02:25.25 | Shirik | I haven't looked at the code though |
| 02:25.26 | Bleeter | I thought 2.1.0 removed addon's ability to report stuff |
| 02:25.33 | Shirik | they removed the ability to submit tickets |
| 02:25.33 | Bleeter | at least, GM tickets |
| 02:25.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It added in new functionality for reporting spam |
| 02:25.44 | Cairenn | mrr? |
| 02:25.45 | Shirik | I don't think the report spam works that way though (I hope not) |
| 02:26.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Right-click, "Report as Spam" |
| 02:26.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Gives you a "yes" and "no" option |
| 02:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I haven't heard if these functions are protected though |
| 02:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | In one sense, I hope it isn't reported |
| 02:27.26 | ScytheBlade1 | That way it could be automatically reported |
| 02:27.42 | ScytheBlade1 | On the flip side, the spammers could simply fill that database chock full of not-spam spam |
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| 02:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, is there any size limit to a string in WoW's implimentation of lua? |
| 02:31.26 | Shirik | size limit a string? |
| 02:32.35 | ScytheBlade1 | No, is there a limit |
| 02:32.41 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:32.44 | Shirik | well |
| 02:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Not performance limit :) |
| 02:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Just general limit |
| 02:32.56 | Shirik | in theory, the amount of ram the user has |
| 02:33.01 | Shirik | but no |
| 02:33.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's what I was wondering |
| 02:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | People want to be able to copy+paste out of this addon, but the end result could be a lot of text, potentially |
| 02:35.46 | Cairenn | someone ping me, pretty please? |
| 02:35.52 | Shirik | Cairenn, ping |
| 02:36.15 | Cairenn | danke |
| 02:36.27 | Shirik | purple irc? |
| 02:37.05 | Shirik | fyi |
| 02:37.13 | Shirik | killing 3 level 60s as a 56 holy priest |
| 02:37.18 | Shirik | is extremely difficult |
| 02:48.40 | AnduinLothar | in case anyone was having a bad day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idRc_KkInds |
| 02:49.40 | Shirik | awww |
| 02:51.08 | Bleeter | Cairenn: you may like to take at the guification's plugin-pack for pidgin. A few of the 'other' plugins done by pidgin authors have been moved into the pack (eg, irc-helper) |
| 02:51.33 | Cairenn | okay |
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| 02:54.12 | Bleeter | and if *anyone* moans about 'losing' the protocol icons on their buddies, I'll be forced to kill you (check http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/414 before saying a thing) ;-) |
| 02:55.39 | Bleeter | and by 'check' I mean 'read and comprehend we've had around 100 moaning clueless idiots carry on about it merely because they're stuck in the old UI mindset and need to learn about meta-contacts' |
| 02:57.03 | Industrial | Bleeter: whats a meta-contact? |
| 02:57.06 | Industrial | Bleeter: just kidding. |
| 02:58.03 | Bleeter | fwiw, the cute thing now about pidgin, is with the meta-contacts it'll auto-magically select the 'best' protocol for an action. So, eg, say the default protocol one talks to a buddy with is IRC, but you've meta'd in ICQ, Yahoo and MSN |
| 02:58.23 | Bleeter | and you go to message the person on IRC, and they're offline, it'll select a protocol that supports offline messages |
| 02:58.59 | Bleeter | of course, the other real cute thing is finch. but Win32 lusers needn't worry about useful stuff like that ;) |
| 02:59.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Too bad they didn't do anything worthwhile with their software for a good three years and lost a huge portion of their userbase :/ |
| 03:00.18 | Bleeter | Too bad AOL was trying to sue our asses off |
| 03:00.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Not discrediting that fact |
| 03:00.30 | Bleeter | Please be informed before spouting junk |
| 03:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, I know what happened and why |
| 03:00.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I said "too bad" |
| 03:00.54 | Bleeter | you also said 'didn't' when it was 'couldn't' |
| 03:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | i r gud at english :P |
| 03:01.25 | Bleeter | and now we're free of that, a larg-ish chunk of what we've been unable to release, is out |
| 03:01.33 | Bleeter | and we'll be back to the 'usual' releases 'n stuff |
| 03:02.13 | Bleeter | but in reality, we only write it for ourselves. if others use it, great. if not, we don't care. |
| 03:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You're a gaim dev of sorts, aren't you? |
| 03:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, pidgin |
| 03:02.40 | Bleeter | yes |
| 03:02.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I knew your name was familiar |
| 03:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I think you +q'd me for being a prick back when it was still #gaim :P |
| 03:04.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I didn't deserve it at the time |
| 03:04.33 | Bleeter | doubt it was me, I usually just op someone else to do the dirty work |
| 03:04.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I forget who, it was >1 year ago |
| 03:05.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I will say this though: the people who don't like the name must not know what it means :P |
| 03:05.38 | Bleeter | yeah, no one ever deserves any punishment they receive. they're always innocent. you should /nick harispilton or something |
| 03:05.39 | ScytheBlade1 | name++ imo |
| 03:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:06.32 | Bleeter | yar, I seem to recall a drunken evening when we were throwing around new names. I have a strong memory that it may have been me who's to blame for the name. I'd just finished reading a linguistics book. |
| 03:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a good name |
| 03:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It fits it perfectly |
| 03:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Seeing as... that's what it's used for... |
| 03:10.46 | AnduinLothar | pigeon- holing? |
| 03:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, not quite |
| 03:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin |
| 03:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | A pidgin is a simplified language that develops as a means of communication between two or more groups who do not share a common language, in situations such as trade. Pidgins usually have no native speakers, but are learned as second languages,[1] and they usually have low prestige with respect to other languages.[2] |
| 03:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | It fits the business of IM to a tee |
| 03:11.48 | Bleeter | AnduinLothar: it's a reference to the dumbass languages people speak online, as well as the backend crossprotocol capabilities |
| 03:12.03 | Shirik | T_T |
| 03:12.08 | AnduinLothar | i kewn that |
| 03:12.19 | Shirik | why do all of the good conversations always happen when I'm gone |
| 03:12.26 | AnduinLothar | i took linguistics too :P |
| 03:12.31 | Bleeter | Shirik: you REALL don't wanna know :P |
| 03:12.36 | Bleeter | *REALLY |
| 03:13.50 | Shirik | :( |
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| 05:15.42 | Corrodias | is that bug where a hunter's pet bar sometimes doesn't show up fixed yet? |
| 05:16.28 | Shirik | that's a bug with addons |
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| 05:42.09 | Kaydeethree | and the Background Downloader's started its slow leech... |
| 05:42.16 | Kaydeethree | the 2.1 patch download is now underway |
| 05:44.46 | Thunder_Child | i just start it for the torrent file |
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| 05:47.06 | Kaydeethree | http://12.129.232.126/background/WoW-2.0.12.6546-x86-Win-enUS-BKGND.torrent |
| 05:47.38 | Thunder_Child | thats the 2.0.12 patch torrent it looks like |
| 05:48.18 | Thunder_Child | besides, once you start it, it resides in your Cache folder |
| 05:48.29 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 05:48.35 | Kaydeethree | I've got azureus leeching it right now |
| 05:48.40 | Kaydeethree | 247.24 MB |
| 05:48.51 | Thunder_Child | yrp |
| 05:48.57 | Thunder_Child | s/yrp/yep/ |
| 05:49.35 | MentalPower | does anyone know of a ping addon? |
| 05:49.52 | MentalPower | you know one that makes a noise when someone says your name in chat |
| 05:49.57 | MentalPower | (a la IRC) |
| 05:50.17 | Shirik | nbsirc does :P |
| 05:50.22 | Shirik | it also makes a little popup for you ^^ |
| 05:50.58 | MentalPower | err.... ingame |
| 05:51.03 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:51.04 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:51.22 | Shirik | I use... |
| 05:51.22 | Shirik | well it doesn't make a sound |
| 05:52.02 | Kaydeethree | bah. it'd be nice if the tracker would point me at a seed... 0.973 availability |
| 05:52.40 | MentalPower | it was just released, there are no seeds yet, other than blizz's HTTP seed |
| 05:52.47 | Thunder_Child | doing better than me, i have .877 |
| 05:53.19 | Bleeter | bah, you're all doing better than me. Wine's refusing to run the downloader from Launcher or standalone |
| 05:53.40 | Kaydeethree | do you have the gecko plugin installed? wine should've installed it for you automagically |
| 05:53.43 | Thunder_Child | we can send you the torrent file |
| 05:53.51 | Kaydeethree | I posted the link to it earlier |
| 05:54.10 | Thunder_Child | it had the wrong file name |
| 05:54.19 | Bleeter | I got *a* torrent file, shown as created today. Refuses to work tho :( |
| 05:54.23 | Kaydeethree | but ya, I couldn't get the BGD to start either |
| 05:54.29 | Kaydeethree | http://12.129.232.126/background/WoW-2.0.12.6546-x86-Win-enUS-BKGND.torrent |
| 05:54.41 | Thunder_Child | i see 2.0.12 what am i missing? |
| 05:54.53 | Kaydeethree | that's the 2.0.12-2.1.0 torrent |
| 05:55.45 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 05:55.46 | Bleeter | "bad packets from tracker - not a valid bencoded string" |
| 05:56.03 | Kaydeethree | what client are you using? |
| 05:56.10 | Thunder_Child | and here mine just calls it BackgroundDownload.torrent |
| 05:56.25 | Kaydeethree | check the Logs/BackgroundDownload.log file. it renames it to that |
| 05:56.30 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: BitTorrent itself |
| 05:56.51 | Bleeter | I gotta go pick up my quad Sparc20 with juicy dual eth, dual fcal and dual fw-scsi.. I'm gunna try again later |
| 05:56.59 | Kaydeethree | the vanilla client doesn't like blizzard's tracker very much. Azureus handles it ok |
| 05:56.59 | Bleeter | ooh, seems to be getting something now, at least |
| 05:57.14 | Bleeter | ah, rightio... anyways, see how it goes while I'm afk. thx for tips :) |
| 05:57.22 | Thunder_Child | hmm..found 2 seeders |
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| 07:06.38 | batrick | anybody know how to constantly choose/accept/complete a repeatable quest? |
| 07:07.05 | batrick | couldn't get anything to work with what i've tried using the api |
| 07:12.08 | Thunder_Child | you might try browsing a mod that already does it to see how it works |
| 07:18.35 | batrick | i was hoping it was an easy script someone would have in a macro : / |
| 07:19.05 | Thunder_Child | not that i know of...but it may exist |
| 07:24.26 | Kirkburn | Where's the enGB torrent, eh? :( |
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| 07:56.46 | sylvanaar | MentalPower in wow chat? Prat does it |
| 07:56.58 | sylvanaar | yikes |
| 07:58.35 | MentalPower | prat? |
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| 08:01.11 | sylvanaar | wrong chan |
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| 08:09.18 | Shirik|zZz | anyone know who made ktm? |
| 08:09.28 | Shirik|zZz | or some internal workings of it? |
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| 08:11.02 | Shirik|zZz | note to self, /dump klhtm is a great way to lock up your UI |
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| 08:13.29 | batrick | best way is while(true) x = 1 end; |
| 08:13.31 | batrick | imo |
| 08:15.32 | Shirik|zZz | nah |
| 08:15.54 | Shirik|zZz | I prefer while(true) do SendChatMessage("GTFO MY WHISPERZ", "WHISPER", nil, "RandomSpammerName") end |
| 08:16.06 | Shirik|zZz | locks up UI and alleviates my anger at the same time |
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| 08:27.53 | krka | batrick_: not really, that won't even compile |
| 08:28.18 | batrick_ | huh? |
| 08:29.00 | krka | 10:13:19 <batrick> best way is while(true) x = 1 end; |
| 08:29.08 | batrick_ | meh i forgot do |
| 08:29.13 | batrick_ | :P |
| 08:29.23 | krka | sure why you need x = 1 |
| 08:29.59 | batrick_ | fluff |
| 08:38.08 | Shirik|zZz | should have done x = {} imo |
| 08:38.11 | Shirik|zZz | to generate garbage |
| 08:38.26 | batrick_ | agreed |
| 08:39.24 | Shirik|zZz | so this is awesome |
| 08:39.30 | Shirik|zZz | I've been touching up RDX's Karazhan bossmods |
| 08:39.35 | Shirik|zZz | I got it to interface with KTM now ^^ |
| 08:39.48 | Shirik|zZz | for those bosses that wipe aggro, change master target, whatever |
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| 09:35.49 | batrick_ | how do you guys solve the problem of local functions needing to call other local functions in the same file... if they need to cal each other |
| 09:36.29 | a-stray-cat | what do you mean? |
| 09:36.54 | a-stray-cat | why wouldn't you be able to call another local function from another function? |
| 09:37.01 | batrick_ | well like in wow, if i call a function that calls a local function above it in the source file, and that local function calls a function below it in the same source file |
| 09:37.14 | batrick_ | i get an attempt to call global X error |
| 09:37.25 | a-stray-cat | can you pastey your code? |
| 09:37.36 | Shirik|zZz | ok batrick_ |
| 09:37.38 | Shirik|zZz | if you have something like |
| 09:37.50 | Shirik|zZz | local function foo() bar(); end local function bar() ... end |
| 09:37.53 | Shirik|zZz | that won't work |
| 09:38.00 | Shirik|zZz | because at the time you create foo, bar is not a known local |
| 09:38.04 | Shirik|zZz | so it tries _G["bar"] |
| 09:38.37 | clad|sleep | Shirik|zZz: stop zZz talking :P |
| 09:38.42 | batrick_ | o |
| 09:38.44 | Shirik|zZz | I couldn't go to sleep |
| 09:38.53 | clad|sleep | then change your nick y0! |
| 09:39.01 | haste | says clad|sleep |
| 09:39.01 | clad|sleep | stop mis-representing fool |
| 09:39.02 | a-stray-cat | you're one to talk :P |
| 09:39.09 | clad|sleep | gah :P |
| 09:39.23 | clad|interview | should be clad|toofuckingearly |
| 09:40.45 | Shirik|Insomnia | ok? |
| 09:41.03 | clad|interview | k k |
| 09:42.39 | clad|interview | so, today I have to meet my boyfriend's mom. |
| 09:42.42 | clad|interview | that should be interesing. |
| 09:43.07 | Shirik|Insomnia | Just say |
| 09:43.17 | Shirik|Insomnia | "Hi, I'm a well known programmer that everyone loves" |
| 09:43.28 | Shirik|Insomnia | and she will assume that is synonymous with "I make tons of money" |
| 09:43.30 | Shirik|Insomnia | and then she'll be happy |
| 09:50.28 | Shirik|Insomnia | clad|interview btw why are you up |
| 09:50.37 | Shirik|zZz | and I shall be trying to return to sleep now |
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| 09:50.49 | clad|interview | lol |
| 09:50.50 | clad|interview | good luck |
| 09:50.53 | clad|interview | i'm interviewing |
| 09:50.55 | clad|interview | then going to work |
| 09:51.07 | Shirik|zZz | 05:51:08 » [notice from NickServ]: Password Incorrect |
| 09:51.08 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 09:51.10 | Shirik|zZz | wtf? |
| 09:51.24 | Shirik|zZz | ok that was incredibly stupid |
| 09:51.28 | amro | lol |
| 09:51.28 | Shirik|zZz | why did I have to change my nick to identify |
| 09:51.42 | Shirik|zZz | w/e, going to sleep |
| 09:51.49 | amro | because your nick is registered, the netweork can't tell who Shirik|zZz is |
| 09:51.55 | Shirik|zZz | Shirik|zZz is linked |
| 09:52.13 | Shirik|zZz | which is why when I switched to Shirik|zZz, it said it was registered and I needed to identify >.> |
| 09:52.34 | amro | maybe you weren't identified to begin with |
| 09:58.00 | Shirik|zZz | is there a 25 man raid in coilfang or something? |
| 09:58.27 | clad|interview | yes |
| 09:58.28 | clad|interview | SSC |
| 09:59.36 | Shirik|zZz | thanks :) |
| 09:59.40 | Shirik|zZz | and now I shall really disappear |
| 09:59.41 | Shirik|zZz | I think |
| 10:01.59 | Shirik|zZz | ok one last question, I promise |
| 10:02.18 | Shirik|zZz | clad|interview maybe you have a way to improve this... I'm trying to write a frame that people can click on for the romeo/juliet event |
| 10:02.23 | Shirik|zZz | to dispel romeo or juliet |
| 10:02.27 | Shirik|zZz | two cells, one for each unit |
| 10:02.42 | Shirik|zZz | What I have is self.julianne:SetAttribute("macrotext", "/target Julianne\n/cast [nomodifier:shift] Dispel Magic\n/targetlasttarget [nomodifier:shift]"); |
| 10:03.10 | Shirik|zZz | but I realize... if you already have Julianne targetted, this will cause problems because /targetlasttarget will detarget her |
| 10:03.31 | Shirik|zZz | but I can't think of a way around this |
| 10:08.03 | Kirkburn|afk | <Shirik|zZz> and now I shall really disappear <--- liar |
| 10:08.08 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 10:08.18 | Kirkburn|afk | I smell burning underwear! |
| 10:08.43 | Shirik|zZz | *headdesk* |
| 10:08.46 | Shirik|zZz | ok, fine, I'll go to sleep |
| 10:08.49 | Kirkburn|afk | heehee |
| 10:08.49 | Shirik|zZz | you really want me to go away :( |
| 10:08.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Aww, no! |
| 10:09.18 | Kirkburn|afk | If I could help you .... I'd be a better coder :) |
| 10:09.49 | Shirik|zZz | :) |
| 10:09.58 | Shirik|zZz | but seriously, 3 hours until class I guess I'll try to go to sleep now |
| 10:09.58 | Shirik|zZz | night |
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| 13:51.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.1 is downloading :O |
| 13:52.14 | Industrial | EU? |
| 13:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | us |
| 13:52.31 | Industrial | aw |
| 13:52.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the bg downloader |
| 13:52.55 | Industrial | I should prolly go look for the changes lol :P I have no idea what santa brings us with 2.1 |
| 13:53.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | fire up your launcher :O |
| 13:53.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | get the assets and stuff that's in the pre-load at least |
| 13:53.49 | Industrial | yeah |
| 13:54.45 | Industrial | I'm EU though so; Data for the next patch is not available. |
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| 13:58.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | the official site has some but there's like a novel full of stuff they left out |
| 13:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the notes are still GIANT |
| 13:59.45 | Industrial | ic |
| 13:59.51 | Industrial | ill wait then |
| 13:59.51 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:09.07 | Kaydeethree | cripes... partial-1 has 13k files in it |
| 14:11.20 | Shirik|zZz | I want my damn enchant glow!! |
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| 14:13.42 | Kaydeethree | they changed a lot of ability icons for some odd reason |
| 14:14.56 | Kaydeethree | and a new deadmines map for some inexplicable reason |
| 14:15.48 | Shirik|zZz | maybe they had to change the ability icons to make them work with the new stuff? |
| 14:15.50 | Shirik|zZz | dunno |
| 14:19.24 | Shirik|zZz | why does everyone hate the windows key :( |
| 14:19.27 | Shirik|zZz | I love it |
| 14:19.37 | Kaydeethree | is that thread still ongoing? |
| 14:19.44 | Shirik|zZz | except when I'm on linux because then all my shortcuts that make me lazy don't work anymore |
| 14:19.50 | Shirik|zZz | yeh :D |
| 14:19.54 | Kaydeethree | geez |
| 14:19.55 | Shirik|zZz | I didn't post in it though :P |
| 14:23.06 | Kaydeethree | hm... "Goblin_Lottery_*.wav" |
| 14:25.54 | Shirik|zZz | hrm |
| 14:26.20 | Shirik|zZz | So I send a ticket because I'm confused about this questline, and I wanted to know if I already completed this quest that I want to do. so I ask the GM if I've completed this quest |
| 14:26.28 | Shirik|zZz | Didn't get a response before I went to sleep last night so they sent me an email |
| 14:26.57 | Shirik|zZz | Unfortunately, we are not allowed to provide game hints of any kind. The best sources of the type of information you are looking for are your fellow players and our forums (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/). |
| 14:27.04 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 14:28.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 14:28.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish there was a way to see |
| 14:28.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | what you've done :( |
| 14:28.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like do to all the quests i can find regardless of reward or experience |
| 14:29.04 | Shirik|zZz | I just want to know where my damn Bladefist's Breadth went, really |
| 14:29.21 | Shirik|zZz | I'm starting to get the feeling I accidentally vendored it, but I don't ever remember doing that quest |
| 14:29.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i did all of them on azeroth that didn't involve raid quests |
| 14:29.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i think i just finished all of them on outland |
| 14:29.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'll never know |
| 14:33.55 | Gnarfoz | Shirik|zZz: hard way: check all NPCs involved |
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| 14:36.35 | Shirik|zZz | I'm going to have to I think :( |
| 14:36.37 | Shirik|zZz | but first, class |
| 15:03.07 | Kaso | "According to one of our readers, the new MacOS X contains another Satanic holdover from the "BSD Unix" OS mentioned above; to open up certain locked files one has to run a program much like the DOS prompt in Microsoft Windows and type in a secret code: "chmod 666". |
| 15:03.24 | Kaso | thats the most awesome quote iver ever heard |
| 15:04.35 | Kaydeethree | oh wow |
| 15:04.38 | Kaydeethree | I haven't seen that article in years |
| 15:05.41 | Kaso | It amuses me that people will read that and belive in it |
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| 16:11.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha leatherworking's uselessness on my server pays off: i can get the whole heavy clefthoof set for like 100g |
| 16:14.44 | Industrial | Can anyone get to pandora.com with a proxy? https://www.xroxy.com/cp/nph-prx.cgi/000010A/uggc/cnaqben.pbz/ |
| 16:14.51 | Industrial | I get an error in the pandora flash app :( |
| 16:14.57 | Industrial | maybe they are blocking public proxies |
| 16:16.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | proxy may be located outside of the US? |
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| 16:17.31 | Industrial | er right |
| 16:18.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | I just accessed it through tor |
| 16:18.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | my exit node being located in the US |
| 16:18.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait nevermind |
| 16:19.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | didn't have torbutton on heh |
| 16:20.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, just did through tor |
| 16:20.41 | Industrial | asdf |
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| 16:20.51 | Industrial | can you set the end node to be in the US? |
| 16:21.00 | Industrial | or will it just do that because it will be a fast hop? |
| 16:21.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can close old connections and setup new identities |
| 16:22.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually i do that a couple of times to get whatever results i desire |
| 16:22.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is usually fastest speed |
| 16:22.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i did it just now to get a US exit node |
| 16:22.49 | Industrial | k |
| 16:23.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | the hidden services on tor are full of the most paranoid people ever, it's hilarious |
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| 16:24.57 | Gnarfoz | tor IS for paranoid people |
| 16:25.10 | Gnarfoz | and if pandora is too lame to get licensing figured out, try last.fm :) |
| 16:27.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay why is pandora playing only live stuff |
| 16:27.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@_@_@_ |
| 16:28.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got like 6 live tracks in a row |
| 16:28.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i liked the music, just the recording quality was pretty bad as live recordings tend to be |
| 16:31.40 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: i dont like last.fm I dont trust other users with deciding what kind of music something is. |
| 16:31.57 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: and pandora seems to pick out nicer songs lol :P |
| 16:32.06 | Gnarfoz | and pandora works ... how? in relation |
| 16:32.09 | Gnarfoz | software based? |
| 16:32.18 | Industrial | by the music genome project |
| 16:32.24 | Gnarfoz | which is? |
| 16:32.28 | Industrial | a group of people that have rated it. people that know music :> |
| 16:32.34 | Gnarfoz | a-ha |
| 16:33.01 | Industrial | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Genome_Project |
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| 16:35.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | pandora does do a better job in my opinion |
| 16:35.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've found so many awesome bands |
| 16:35.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | through it |
| 16:35.45 | Industrial | me too |
| 16:35.58 | Industrial | and on some stations i created i can just leave it on and be sure there will not be a "bad" song for hours |
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| 16:36.49 | Gnarfoz | too bad it's US only then, sounds neat |
| 16:36.57 | Gnarfoz | (although I've found several nice bands via last.fm, too) |
| 16:39.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | its only recently us only |
| 16:39.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | liscensing fees are too high |
| 16:40.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, that's something i didn't expect on a free music site |
| 16:40.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | metallica |
| 16:40.12 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 16:40.13 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
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| 16:50.20 | Mikma | ain't there a way of creating slashcommands with 1 line? like: SlashCmdList["/pleave"] = LeaveParty |
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| 16:51.28 | batrick | no |
| 16:53.04 | batrick | think of it like this... SLASH_X1 = "/Y" X != Y |
| 16:53.25 | Shirik | I've never liked the slash command system really |
| 16:53.54 | batrick | it could probably have been worse |
| 16:54.02 | Shirik | well ANYTHING can be worse :P |
| 16:54.06 | cogwheel|work | Shirik: that's what libs are for :P |
| 16:55.13 | Shirik | well RDX has its own way of handling slash commands but that's not the point >< |
| 16:55.13 | batrick | libraries are no fun for large mods |
| 16:55.13 | batrick | end up bloating your code |
| 16:55.13 | cogwheel|work | ooooh.... "Data for the next patch is available." |
| 16:55.14 | batrick | better to do thing syourself |
| 16:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh whoa |
| 16:55.14 | Kaydeethree | cog; 247 MB |
| 16:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's...weird |
| 16:55.17 | cogwheel|work | batrick: you got that backwards |
| 16:55.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | a song just popped up on pandora |
| 16:55.21 | batrick | don't think so |
| 16:55.24 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.26 | Kaydeethree | direct link to torrent |
| 16:55.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's from the first CD i EVER got |
| 16:55.33 | batrick | libraries are fine if you use everything in them |
| 16:55.35 | Shirik | yey for this argument all over again >< |
| 16:55.36 | batrick | is what I meant |
| 16:55.39 | cogwheel|work | ah yes |
| 16:55.41 | Shirik | libraries are good sometimes and bad sometimes |
| 16:55.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | the mortal kombat soundtrack :D |
| 16:55.47 | clad|afk | lol |
| 16:56.04 | Shirik | What I just don't see, though |
| 16:56.15 | Kaydeethree | damn it... being logged out doesn't let the res sickness timer keep ticking |
| 16:56.19 | Shirik | is the logic of iterating over all SLASH_ entries to search for some slash command |
| 16:56.23 | Shirik | instead of being able to index it directly |
| 16:56.40 | Shirik | I mean, you barely save anything by not having duplicate references to the function for synonyms |
| 16:57.05 | cogwheel|work | Shirik: I heard that they're actually caching common slash commands next patch |
| 16:57.32 | clad|afk | the slash command was written FOREVER ago |
| 16:57.39 | Shirik | this is true |
| 16:57.43 | Kaydeethree | didn't slouken mention that in the 2.1 changes thread? I know I saw something in the code on the ptr |
| 16:57.43 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@74.92.248.14) |
| 16:57.47 | clad|afk | and its stuck for backwards compat reasons |
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| 16:58.09 | Shirik | anyone here know a little about the internal workings of KTM? |
| 16:58.40 | cogwheel|work | another thing about the slash commands is that it makes localization more uniform. A simple list of "constants" in GlobalStrings.lua is all it takes |
| 16:58.57 | Shirik | this is true |
| 16:59.06 | KarlThePagan | Shirik, maybe the basics - it determines your threat generated by examining gear and talents and broadcasts that to the raid |
| 16:59.09 | Kaydeethree | as far as I know, it's just a flat table of threat values modified based on talents and such |
| 16:59.27 | Shirik | oh I know what it does, I'm trying to have RDX interface with it. What I did works.... but |
| 16:59.34 | Shirik | I'm not sure if I did it the best way |
| 16:59.36 | Shirik | here let me show you |
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| 17:00.09 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/27116 |
| 17:00.17 | Shirik | whoops, take out that top line >< |
| 17:00.19 | Shirik | copied a bit too far |
| 17:01.01 | Shirik | fyi, VFL.Noop is just function() end |
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| 17:01.52 | clad|afk | my mom is a noop |
| 17:01.53 | Shirik | *headdesk* |
| 17:02.23 | TC-Testing | bah |
| 17:03.10 | clad|afk | In Soviet Russa, WoW localizes YOU! |
| 17:03.29 | Shirik | I localized your mom last night |
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| 17:04.01 | clad|afk | i knew she sounded different this morning. |
| 17:04.23 | wobin | What, more russian than usual? =) |
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| 17:05.24 | batrick | ktm is an abomina tion shirik u are either very brave or very stupid to try to interface with it |
| 17:05.37 | Shirik | oh, in reading the code, I have totally figured that out |
| 17:05.49 | Shirik | You have no idea how long it took me to write just those 10 lines or whatever |
| 17:06.03 | Shirik | But my raid team asked for it :/ |
| 17:06.15 | batrick | haha |
| 17:06.21 | batrick | i woulda found a new raid team :P |
| 17:06.22 | Shirik | and unfortunately my guild note says "anything's possible" |
| 17:06.22 | wobin | hehe, any request to do with threat calculation, I say "no way in hell" =) |
| 17:06.24 | Shirik | for a reason |
| 17:07.08 | Shirik | technically, I'm now leading my own raid team |
| 17:07.10 | Shirik | I lead group 2 now >< |
| 17:07.16 | Shirik | but I still have to help out group 1, and we use the same tools |
| 17:07.40 | batrick | i dunno |
| 17:07.45 | batrick | ktm isn't really necessary for raiding |
| 17:07.50 | Shirik | I HATE ktm |
| 17:07.52 | batrick | i found it useful for huhran and that's it |
| 17:07.55 | Shirik | but there are those that swear by it |
| 17:08.01 | batrick | and only because i was a mage |
| 17:08.05 | batrick | i pulled agro like no other |
| 17:08.12 | zenzelezz | I don't swear by KTM, I swear at it |
| 17:08.17 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:08.17 | batrick | ^ |
| 17:08.21 | Kaydeethree | meh. we never used it... got up to 4H, we're banging our heads against hydross now |
| 17:08.46 | batrick | it's pretty fucking useless, only micromanaging raid leaders would give a damn |
| 17:08.49 | wobin | It's useful for tank'n'spank |
| 17:08.57 | wobin | but that's about it |
| 17:08.58 | Shirik | imo |
| 17:09.04 | Shirik | if you can't control your threat without a meter |
| 17:09.05 | Kaydeethree | and how many tank-n-spank fights have we had since MC? |
| 17:09.08 | Shirik | you shouldn't be in a raid |
| 17:09.11 | wobin | exactly |
| 17:09.28 | wobin | Ever since the fights became more technical, it's become less useful |
| 17:09.42 | wobin | and you can tell I'm tired when my grammar goes downhill |
| 17:10.53 | wobin | night all =) |
| 17:10.54 | wobin | ee =\ |
| 17:10.54 | wobin | byebye Chanserv |
| 17:10.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | not goof |
| 17:10.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, good* |
| 17:10.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i cant type :[ |
| 17:11.02 | Shirik | Yes! |
| 17:11.05 | Shirik | Time to take over the channel |
| 17:11.11 | wobin | muhahaha? |
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| 17:11.18 | Shirik | Muahahaha. |
| 17:11.25 | wobin | muhahaha! |
| 17:11.37 | Kaydeethree | lol... "Dragonmaw Peon is afflicted by Lazy and Good for Nothing." |
| 17:11.38 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Shirik!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by clad|afk (clad|afk) |
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| 17:11.42 | Shirik | qq |
| 17:11.45 | clad|afk | :P |
| 17:11.48 | Kaydeethree | <3 the Booterang |
| 17:12.00 | clad|afk | pflood me skript kiddie. |
| 17:12.12 | Shirik | qq I typed it wrong |
| 17:12.12 | clad|afk | i dare ya |
| 17:12.15 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 17:12.42 | Bam__ | question: SetOverrideBindingClick(owner, isPriority, "KEY", "ButtoName"[,"mouseButton"]) <--- what role does owner play here? |
| 17:13.06 | clad|afk | Bam__: I believe its so you can later cancel the overridebinding |
| 17:13.22 | Bam__ | clad|afk: so like a unique key to the binding? |
| 17:13.24 | clad|afk | since multiple owners could set override bindings and its good to be able to identify them uniquely |
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| 17:13.26 | clad|afk | afaik |
| 17:13.38 | Bam__ | makes sense.. cheers |
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| 17:17.58 | Gnarfoz | <@clad|afk> pflood me skript kiddie. < gief ip ;p |
| 17:18.08 | clad|afk | lolz |
| 17:18.22 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 17:18.34 | Gnarfoz | what cpu cooler to get :\ |
| 17:18.37 | Shirik | obviously the ip is › address: n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire |
| 17:18.40 | Shirik | duh |
| 17:18.41 | Gnarfoz | can't decide |
| 17:18.48 | Shirik | just do a nslookup WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire |
| 17:18.59 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: sure, you go ahead ;p |
| 17:19.59 | Shirik | I think my school blocks dcc :( |
| 17:20.19 | Kaydeethree | dcc is such a stupid protocol |
| 17:20.26 | Shirik | it gets you ip ^^ |
| 17:21.12 | wobin | clad's IP is 127.0.0.1 =P |
| 17:21.12 | Shirik | ok i go haxxor it now |
| 17:21.21 | Kaydeethree | heh. I've screwed up so many script kiddies feeding them that IP addy |
| 17:21.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik (n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu) |
| 17:22.00 | clad|afk | bring it on, resnet boy :P |
| 17:22.07 | Shirik | I hate resnet :( |
| 17:22.12 | clad|afk | lol |
| 17:22.14 | Shirik | the admins have no idea what they're doing |
| 17:22.24 | Kaydeethree | <3 getting off-campus |
| 17:22.26 | wobin | pingflooding 127.0.0.1? |
| 17:22.44 | Shirik | no more like |
| 17:22.49 | Shirik | we use Cisco CAA |
| 17:22.54 | Kaydeethree | ugh |
| 17:22.56 | Kaydeethree | and double-ugh |
| 17:23.00 | Shirik | and... we have to have a virus scanner. Well I don't have one, so they give me a free one to download |
| 17:23.03 | Shirik | but wait! You can't get to that site! |
| 17:23.11 | wobin | woo catch-22 =) |
| 17:23.11 | Shirik | Because it won't let you go to it because you can't connect until you get a virus scanner!! |
| 17:23.19 | Kaydeethree | hint: user-agent switcher in firefox. say you're on linux |
| 17:23.22 | Kaydeethree | all you have to do is log in |
| 17:23.30 | Shirik | hrm |
| 17:23.35 | Shirik | what about wow etc though? |
| 17:23.50 | Kaydeethree | works just fine. I played wow from my linux box, irc, etc |
| 17:23.57 | Shirik | hm |
| 17:23.58 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.26 | Kaydeethree | except for the fact that I couldn't, uhm, poke a hole in the firewall it was unrestricted (if laggy at times) net access |
| 17:25.27 | batrick | "To ensure that this does not occur, ITS measures the amount of information that individual computers transfer on the network and if that amount is considered to be inordinately large, bandwidth restrictions may be imposed on the individual network port. For the purpose of this policy, inordinately is defined as traffic exceeding 10 percent of the University's Internet bandwidth." |
| 17:25.34 | batrick | i like that |
| 17:25.38 | batrick | tbh |
| 17:26.00 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 17:26.03 | wobin | what sort of line does the uni have? |
| 17:26.14 | Shirik | it would be a decent one if they knew how to admin it |
| 17:26.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially since it just shuts off the noobs that soak up bandwidth using limewire |
| 17:26.16 | Kaydeethree | hahaha... it's good being a CS student. the labs are tied directly to the uplink. |
| 17:26.40 | clad|afk | DAMN |
| 17:26.44 | Shirik | CRAP |
| 17:26.50 | Kaydeethree | ? |
| 17:26.51 | Josh_Borke | not to jump in mid conversation without reading more, but 10% of university bandwidth is a LOT. if anyone is able to do that then what is the rest of the university doing? |
| 17:26.53 | clad|afk | lost 510g transferring 3400g |
| 17:26.57 | clad|afk | hate the neutral auction house |
| 17:26.58 | Josh_Borke | ouch |
| 17:27.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | doh |
| 17:27.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 17:27.04 | batrick | glad josh caught that |
| 17:27.09 | Shirik | oops |
| 17:27.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | per port, josh |
| 17:27.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | not epr person |
| 17:27.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | per* |
| 17:27.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, well, i could be wrong, it is kinda vague |
| 17:27.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | in hindsight |
| 17:27.42 | Josh_Borke | well, at my university per port can have lots of meanings |
| 17:29.50 | clad|afk | Hrm |
| 17:29.56 | clad|afk | I need a bag for my laptop, that isn't a laptop bag |
| 17:29.59 | clad|afk | i'll be using a sleeve for my laptop |
| 17:30.01 | clad|afk | any thoughts? |
| 17:30.07 | Josh_Borke | bookbag |
| 17:30.41 | wobin | backpack? |
| 17:30.45 | clad|afk | yeah but what kind |
| 17:30.49 | clad|afk | i need links :P |
| 17:30.58 | Josh_Borke | i hate buying stuff like that online |
| 17:31.04 | clad|afk | for why? |
| 17:31.05 | Josh_Borke | because i like the way a bookbag feels to me |
| 17:31.09 | wobin | yeah, it's much better when you can wear it |
| 17:31.12 | wobin | to try |
| 17:31.21 | Josh_Borke | wobin: gief splut |
| 17:31.29 | wobin | oh man |
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| 17:31.39 | wobin | My secureframe knowledge has dwindled horrifically |
| 17:31.49 | wobin | I may not be able to fufil that request =P |
| 17:31.54 | Josh_Borke | NO EXCUSES! |
| 17:31.57 | Josh_Borke | ~lart wobin |
| 17:31.57 | purl | slams wobin against a large cement Tux |
| 17:32.00 | Josh_Borke | ~punish wobin |
| 17:32.13 | purl | ACTION forces wobin to install and use Windows |
| 17:32.14 | wobin | ~hug Josh_Borke |
| 17:32.20 | purl | ACTION hugs Josh_Borke tightly until Josh_Borke turns slightly blue |
| 17:32.34 | Kaydeethree | ack. I wouldn't force that last punishment on my enemies |
| 17:32.45 | Josh_Borke | Kaydeethree: i force it on my friends :-) |
| 17:32.46 | TC-Testing | worse...should be Windows ME |
| 17:33.59 | clad|afk | I like Wenger/Swiss Gear |
| 17:34.00 | clad|afk | http://www.academicsuperstore.com/market/marketdisp.html?PartNo=730694 |
| 17:34.08 | clad|afk | tbh |
| 17:34.52 | Josh_Borke | ~literal punish |
| 17:34.59 | purl | "punish" is "<reply> rahul needs to be punished" |
| 17:34.59 | wobin | oh hey |
| 17:35.04 | wobin | it works on Mac -and- PC =) |
| 17:35.06 | wobin | lucky clad =) |
| 17:35.10 | clad|afk | i know :P |
| 17:35.16 | clad|afk | that's make or break for me. |
| 17:35.54 | clad|afk | I hate when the bag won't hold my mac. |
| 17:35.54 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 17:39.07 | wobin | http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=RGS012 |
| 17:39.11 | wobin | That's the backpack I have |
| 17:39.13 | wobin | except in red |
| 17:39.26 | wobin | actually no it's not, mine has a few more pockets |
| 17:39.40 | clad|afk | oh, so you link me the nub backpack? |
| 17:39.41 | clad|afk | how rude? |
| 17:39.47 | clad|afk | you think i can't handle the extra pockets? |
| 17:41.08 | wobin | can't seem to find the same one =) |
| 17:41.08 | Josh_Borke | huh? isn't he saying this one is better and has more pockets? |
| 17:41.33 | Josh_Borke | wait, nvm |
| 17:41.39 | Josh_Borke | i combined few and more into fewer |
| 17:41.51 | Josh_Borke | i'm just gonna go to my corner now |
| 17:42.22 | clad|afk | k k:P |
| 17:43.47 | wobin | hum |
| 17:43.54 | wobin | I guess they don't stock that model anymore |
| 17:44.02 | wobin | I did buy it about two years ago |
| 17:44.10 | wobin | I guess it had too many pockets =P |
| 17:44.15 | Industrial | clad|afk: dakine \o/ |
| 17:45.24 | Industrial | aaaand the site horribly 404's every page. |
| 17:45.26 | Industrial | :| |
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| 17:46.32 | messiahek | hi |
| 17:46.44 | messiahek | can i get help here? |
| 17:47.00 | cogwheel|work | depends on what you want help with :P |
| 17:47.03 | Kaydeethree | depends on what you need help with? |
| 17:47.03 | wobin | generally speaking though, Targus make good solid bags that can take a beating |
| 17:47.04 | foxlit | "Help, apply to forehead" |
| 17:47.06 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 17:47.09 | cogwheel|work | rofl |
| 17:47.13 | foxlit | Ask direct questions. |
| 17:47.20 | wobin | want and need =P |
| 17:47.31 | messiahek | need to do ss |
| 17:47.35 | messiahek | brb |
| 17:48.48 | wobin | >< |
| 17:49.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | this pally in my group is making me think about leaving |
| 17:49.35 | Industrial | clad|afk: http://tinyurl.com/2whe3o http://tinyurl.com/2v6lq6 |
| 17:49.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | "can y tank" |
| 17:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
| 17:49.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | "can y tanking" |
| 17:49.57 | Industrial | clad|afk: I have http://tinyurl.com/2jsqtk myself but I wouldnt recommend it for laptops as there is no protection at all |
| 17:50.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | "lfm to shattered hals needdps" |
| 17:50.06 | foxlit | Is there a unicode "does not belong" character? |
| 17:50.18 | clad|afk | thanks guys |
| 17:50.18 | foxlit | (as in element does not belong to a set?) |
| 17:50.18 | wobin | "Do not want"? |
| 17:50.21 | Industrial | clad|afk: but i put mine in it anyway:P its 4 years old now |
| 17:50.33 | wobin | unicode? |
| 17:50.40 | wobin | or regexp? |
| 17:50.56 | foxlit | Unicode. |
| 17:51.01 | wobin | no idea =) |
| 17:51.24 | foxlit | Was thinking of writing some math elsewhere, was at a loss for characters. |
| 17:53.11 | zenzelezz | http://unicode.org/reports/tr25/ ? |
| 17:53.44 | Kaydeethree | there's a unicode character for everything |
| 17:54.25 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: unicode char 2209 ? |
| 17:54.39 | Gnarfoz | on the page zenzelezz linked, search 'element' |
| 17:55.04 | foxlit | Close, now I just need an inverse of that |
| 17:55.20 | zenzelezz | inverse? |
| 17:55.21 | messiahek | ok, here is the question |
| 17:55.25 | foxlit | 2208 |
| 17:55.26 | Gnarfoz | you said 'not an element of' |
| 17:55.32 | Gnarfoz | that's what the sign is for :D |
| 17:55.46 | foxlit | First occurance of element gives you the symbol for element of, not not element of :) |
| 17:55.57 | messiahek | its my interface - http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mojuivc8.jpg, how can i get that icons there? like on that screen --->http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/.jpg4_20070330.jpg |
| 17:55.57 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 17:56.20 | wobin | http://unicode.org/reports/tr25/#_Toc217? |
| 17:56.27 | wobin | er |
| 17:56.28 | wobin | http://unicode.org/reports/tr25/#_Toc217 |
| 17:56.40 | zenzelezz | check the page, it has a lot of info and links to documents :-p |
| 17:56.45 | Gnarfoz | messiahek: _move them_! |
| 17:57.05 | messiahek | humm, how |
| 17:57.11 | Gnarfoz | unlock your action bars? |
| 17:57.18 | messiahek | dont work |
| 17:57.23 | Gnarfoz | you're obviously already using a action bar addon |
| 17:57.47 | Gnarfoz | get one that works, then ^^ |
| 17:57.55 | Gnarfoz | or find out what's wrong ;) |
| 17:58.12 | messiahek | its oryginal bar |
| 17:58.18 | messiahek | original* |
| 17:58.31 | Gnarfoz | the original bars don't look like that? |
| 17:58.36 | wobin | you're using Bartender3 |
| 17:58.37 | Gnarfoz | that's dreamlayout style :\ |
| 17:58.52 | wobin | Shiftclick on the bartender3 fubar icon |
| 17:59.00 | foxlit | Found it, it was 2208 :) |
| 17:59.09 | Gnarfoz | lol, didn't even see the fubar icon, wobin ;> |
| 17:59.34 | messiahek | oh, u are god |
| 17:59.37 | messiahek | thanks !! :) |
| 17:59.44 | wobin | No problem, son |
| 18:00.13 | messiahek | btw, anybody from poland is here? |
| 18:00.13 | foxlit | Pity wow doesn't have it defined. |
| 18:00.22 | foxlit | Or, rather, the fonts wow use don't have the character. |
| 18:00.37 | wobin | foxlit: The day I hvae to use complex math in WoW... is the day I... I dunno... stab something in the eye? |
| 18:00.58 | wobin | oh god |
| 18:01.02 | wobin | I called it math |
| 18:01.16 | foxlit | So you and mathematics are on a first-name basis? |
| 18:01.16 | messiahek | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:01.27 | wobin | It's maths |
| 18:01.35 | wobin | I've been working with too many americans |
| 18:01.37 | messiahek | wobin |
| 18:01.45 | messiahek | one question more |
| 18:01.45 | wobin | cya messiahek |
| 18:01.48 | wobin | sure |
| 18:02.14 | messiahek | how can i resize bars? |
| 18:02.37 | Gnarfoz | (alt-)rightclick each one while they are unlocked |
| 18:02.42 | wobin | once you're in the mode that you can move it all around in, right click on the bars and choose scale |
| 18:02.43 | Gnarfoz | brings up the bar's configuration menu |
| 18:03.00 | wobin | possibly |
| 18:03.12 | messiahek | shit, u are nice :D |
| 18:03.52 | wobin | I gotta get some sleep =) |
| 18:03.53 | wobin | Night all |
| 18:04.03 | leethal | is there any way to detect the difference between clicking off a buff, and a buff that fades because it's time over, the end for that buff? |
| 18:05.09 | leethal | also stuff like "I have commanding shout. I shout myself with battle shout. how do I know that commanding shout didn't fade, but was merely replaced by another shout?" |
| 18:05.14 | Kaydeethree | they both fire unit_aura iirc |
| 18:05.23 | leethal | my real question: is there an api way to do this, or do I have to do fancy stuff myself? |
| 18:06.01 | Shirik | leethal: Fancy stuff yourself |
| 18:06.06 | Shirik | but you can't really even rely on much |
| 18:06.10 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowwiki.com/UNIT_AURA |
| 18:06.14 | Shirik | I mean I guess you can watch for dispells |
| 18:06.18 | Shirik | and time ends |
| 18:06.29 | Shirik | but the same message comes whether it ends or if it's clicked off |
| 18:06.33 | leethal | yeah, OnUpdate-ish tracking I guess? |
| 18:06.35 | Shirik | so you have to watch the time left |
| 18:06.39 | leethal | I see |
| 18:07.04 | Shirik | also |
| 18:07.06 | leethal | so, if the_time_left_on_some_buff > 0.1, it wasn't a duration fade? |
| 18:07.20 | Shirik | sure |
| 18:07.26 | Shirik | I'd settle for about 1s personally |
| 18:07.32 | leethal | lag and fps and all? |
| 18:07.36 | Shirik | yeh |
| 18:07.46 | leethal | okay, thanks =) |
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| 18:15.34 | foxlit | Part of this "every class should have an equal ability to do damage" irks me |
| 18:15.46 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.02 | Kaydeethree | I'm a glass cannon, I should out-dps everyone but rogues for single-target combat |
| 18:17.37 | foxlit | Someone should code a [cue insane laughter] fair DPS meter. |
| 18:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | glass cannon with the best evasion in the game :x |
| 18:17.53 | foxlit | Think Kay was talking about mages |
| 18:18.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah so was i :O |
| 18:18.23 | foxlit | Evasion is a rogue ability, confusing! |
| 18:18.23 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean the act, not the spell |
| 18:18.48 | foxlit | Tbh, they need it to survive. |
| 18:19.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, but that's their survivability |
| 18:19.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | having a great ability to keep targets at range |
| 18:19.35 | foxlit | Not quite the same thing |
| 18:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure it is |
| 18:20.01 | foxlit | No, it's not. |
| 18:20.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a form of mitigation |
| 18:20.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | they avoid taking damage by avoiding being attacked, which they excel at |
| 18:21.07 | foxlit | If the shit hits the fan, they're dead. The trick of not letting that happen is the essense of that class |
| 18:23.11 | foxlit | The two sort of have to go together, or they'd be a glass ghost. |
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| 18:23.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know |
| 18:23.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying that's what balances them and they don't have to do the highest dps, because of their evasion abilities :O |
| 18:25.08 | foxlit | Mage is nearly the easiest class to kill if you jump them. |
| 18:25.17 | foxlit | Should get something for that, really :) |
| 18:25.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids are easier to kill to me :p |
| 18:25.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | much easier |
| 18:25.31 | foxlit | That's typically because druids slack |
| 18:25.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids are free HKs to me on every single one of my characters |
| 18:25.52 | foxlit | But what do you play, melee army? |
| 18:25.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | beacuase theyre incredibly squishy outside of bear |
| 18:26.33 | foxlit | If cc quits being imba, druids outheal most things :P |
| 18:29.15 | messiahek | re |
| 18:29.22 | messiahek | wobin |
| 18:29.24 | messiahek | are u here? |
| 18:29.45 | TC-Testing | http://www.getdigital.de/products/RTFM |
| 18:29.59 | messiahek | wobin? |
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| 18:40.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh this dumb pally has let me die twice :/ |
| 18:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | hes in leather, mail and cloth :[ |
| 18:47.24 | haste | My old L60 shaman used mail, leather and cloth back in the AQ40 days |
| 18:51.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | pally plate isnt hard to come by by any means in bc |
| 19:04.48 | AnduinLothar | KarlThePagan: ping |
| 19:15.44 | AnduinLothar | Q: what new cure spells were added in tbc? just the priest aoe? |
| 19:15.57 | sysrage | mass dispell looks so neat ;) |
| 19:16.18 | sysrage | priest in our guild spams that shit just to look cool hah |
| 19:16.29 | AnduinLothar | is that how it's spelled? |
| 19:16.47 | sysrage | mass dispell? |
| 19:17.08 | AnduinLothar | ya, in the combat log |
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| 19:17.13 | sysrage | might be 1 l |
| 19:17.15 | sysrage | i dunno |
| 19:18.16 | Josh_Borke | one L |
| 19:18.20 | Josh_Borke | i can check it tonight AL |
| 19:20.30 | AnduinLothar | any one got a priest that can check what event "%s's Prayer of Mending heals %s for d%." comes from? |
| 19:20.30 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: later... |
| 19:20.31 | Shirik | d% ? |
| 19:20.31 | Shirik | %d oh |
| 19:20.31 | Josh_Borke | huh, i read that exactly like %d... |
| 19:20.31 | AnduinLothar | typo |
| 19:21.06 | Shirik | and iirc it's CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_XXX_BUFFS |
| 19:21.10 | Shirik | but... I'm not sure |
| 19:21.31 | AnduinLothar | that a new event? |
| 19:21.39 | AnduinLothar | nm |
| 19:21.39 | Shirik | I only found it a few weeks ago myself |
| 19:21.43 | Shirik | but |
| 19:21.46 | Shirik | I rarely look for those things |
| 19:22.49 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, if it is than it isn't like all the other spells on that event that have "%s gains %d health from %s's %s." syntax |
| 19:27.02 | Shirik | well there's a bunch of other spells on that event |
| 19:27.04 | Shirik | that don't fit that |
| 19:27.11 | AnduinLothar | like what? |
| 19:27.12 | Shirik | fricking red riding hood on big bad wolf is on that event for god knows what reason |
| 19:27.20 | Shirik | took me FOREVER to find that |
| 19:27.33 | AnduinLothar | meh, that's not dmg or healing |
| 19:28.03 | Shirik | CREATURE_VS_CREATURE_BUFFS perhaps? |
| 19:28.11 | Shirik | or maybe it would be more pratical to call it a debuff |
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| 19:45.03 | TC-Testing | so bored |
| 19:57.58 | TC-Testing | ~tumbleweed |
| 19:58.28 | TC-Testing | meh |
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| 20:08.09 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, pong |
| 20:08.36 | AnduinLothar | hey basic, I was wondering if you could check which event the Prayer of Mending combat log msg was on |
| 20:08.44 | KarlThePagan | sure /msbt search for the win |
| 20:08.53 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 20:09.07 | KarlThePagan | it's a SCT alternative... has combat log search capability |
| 20:09.13 | AnduinLothar | oh nifty |
| 20:09.45 | KarlThePagan | yea look for Mik Scrolling Battle Text on wowinterface |
| 20:09.47 | AnduinLothar | i haven't found a good reason to not use blizz's built in one yet |
| 20:09.54 | KarlThePagan | overhealing eh? |
| 20:09.57 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 20:10.08 | Josh_Borke | that's why i use it |
| 20:10.08 | KarlThePagan | that's why I couldn't stand to use the blizz one |
| 20:10.16 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 20:10.36 | KarlThePagan | and MSBT does event combining which is very nice for HOT spam and especially for VE spam |
| 20:10.53 | kergoth | yes, love that feature |
| 20:11.17 | AnduinLothar | DM tracks Overhealing, besides I flash most of the time so my overhealing is low. but what's the feature like? |
| 20:11.40 | AnduinLothar | +900 (100 over) ? |
| 20:12.23 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 20:12.25 | AnduinLothar | onyl reason i liked sct was the waterfall/fountain display method... |
| 20:13.00 | AnduinLothar | mik's have somethign similar? |
| 20:13.18 | Josh_Borke | it's got a rainbow mode |
| 20:13.22 | AnduinLothar | i knwo one of them can split of healign and dmg to different sides, but i don't remember which |
| 20:13.26 | Kaydeethree | <3 sprinkler method for incoming ve/vt heals |
| 20:13.29 | Kaydeethree | AL: SCT |
| 20:13.35 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: msbt can |
| 20:13.39 | AnduinLothar | mk |
| 20:14.08 | AnduinLothar | i think i disabled sct before i got my new computer cause it was slowign down my machine and just haven't gone back |
| 20:15.21 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_BUFF - Your Prayer of Mending heals you for 996. |
| 20:15.27 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 20:15.47 | Josh_Borke | um |
| 20:15.50 | KarlThePagan | I believe PoM will always show the buffed player's name as the source |
| 20:15.51 | Josh_Borke | what does it say on someone else? |
| 20:15.55 | KarlThePagan | for example: |
| 20:16.08 | KarlThePagan | Wraithhammer's Prayer of Mending heals Wraithhamer for 996. |
| 20:16.11 | Josh_Borke | it'll probably say the same since threat is applied to the person healed |
| 20:16.17 | KarlThePagan | yup |
| 20:16.18 | AnduinLothar | ah ok, that would explain it |
| 20:16.39 | KarlThePagan | also priests can overwrite each other's PoM |
| 20:19.06 | kergoth | hunter question, its impossible to have a macro to use a trinket, then arcane shot, without stopping the autoshot, right? (cause of /stopcasting) |
| 20:20.27 | Mikma | does anyone know how can i get movement keys working when i have WorldMapFrame open? |
| 20:20.48 | Josh_Borke | work how? |
| 20:21.06 | Mikma | i mean i can spin my character around with arrowkeys while the WorldMapFrame is open |
| 20:21.19 | Josh_Borke | and you can't now? |
| 20:21.25 | Mikma | nope |
| 20:21.29 | Josh_Borke | is the WorldMapFrame:EnableKeyboard(true)? |
| 20:21.39 | Josh_Borke | did you try WorldMapFrame:EnableKeyboard(false)? |
| 20:21.42 | Mikma | should be, atleast it's set in .xml |
| 20:21.52 | Josh_Borke | disable the keyboard on the worldmapframe |
| 20:22.04 | Mikma | there we go :D |
| 20:22.10 | Mikma | Josh_Borke: thanks borg |
| 20:22.42 | TC-Testing | oh noes, Josh_Borke is a borg |
| 20:23.37 | Mikma | no worries, you will be assimilated soon (or something) |
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| 20:46.07 | Josh_Borke | ~squish Mikma |
| 20:46.09 | purl | ACTION squishes Mikma like a bug |
| 20:46.32 | Mikma | ouchie |
| 20:55.33 | sysrage | woot. patch is comin soon eh? |
| 20:55.47 | Shirik|AFK | supposedly |
| 20:56.35 | cogwheel|work | i give it 33% chance of next week, 50% for the following week, and 17% for the week after that |
| 20:56.37 | sysrage | why am i saying woot. that blows.. stupid hypothermia and non stacking pots |
| 20:56.53 | KarlThePagan | kergoth, on the trinket/autoshot thing actually it depends on the item :( |
| 20:56.58 | cogwheel|work | sysrage: pretty much everything UI-related is very woot :P |
| 20:57.05 | sysrage | true |
| 20:57.20 | sysrage | pissed about hypothermia though. what a ridiculous nerf |
| 20:57.27 | KarlThePagan | for me I noticed that trinket/PI/holy fire worked with the ZHC but it stopped working with all the new TBC trinkets :( |
| 20:59.19 | kergoth | hmm |
| 20:59.53 | KarlThePagan | I've tried quite a few trinket/PI scripts but it ended up just being pretty frustrating |
| 21:00.12 | KarlThePagan | and I'm shadow now so it's not really a big deal to manually activate |
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| 21:15.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | stylin purple hat, short time left, 50g |
| 21:15.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | please no bid sniping :[ |
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| 21:17.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, it's 50.6950g |
| 21:17.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 21:18.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | minimum bid is 53.1950, sorry i winzzz |
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| 21:19.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | luckily bidding on something that's got <30 mins left adds 5 minutes |
| 21:20.04 | Shirik|Ecole | omax starts taking preorders in 8 days.... |
| 21:21.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | what is this omax |
| 21:21.44 | zenzelezz | and what are they taking pre-orders for? |
| 21:23.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo my hat showed up |
| 21:23.05 | Gryphen | http://www.omax.co.uk/ |
| 21:23.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | /dance with the pimp hat |
| 21:23.39 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ |
| 21:23.53 | Shirik|Ecole | is the correct omax -_- |
| 21:23.58 | Gryphen | :) |
| 21:24.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was pretty confused |
| 21:24.07 | Gryphen | too bad its so expensive |
| 21:24.10 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-concept/ |
| 21:24.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i wasn't about to ask |
| 21:24.22 | Shirik|Ecole | any idea what the price is going to be? |
| 21:24.28 | Gryphen | $1500 |
| 21:24.33 | Shirik|Ecole | ow |
| 21:24.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably about 150 bucks to 300 i'd say :x |
| 21:25.03 | Gryphen | $1500 |
| 21:25.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 21:25.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 21:25.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah you're right |
| 21:25.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought that was an estimate |
| 21:25.29 | Gryphen | it was reported a few days ago, looking for link |
| 21:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | $1536 US |
| 21:25.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | cry |
| 21:26.19 | Gryphen | http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/757 |
| 21:26.31 | Gryphen | guess it was more than a few days |
| 21:26.31 | Gryphen | heh |
| 21:27.43 | Shirik|Ecole | FFS! |
| 21:27.59 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry, I ust found that to be a peculiar quit message |
| 21:28.12 | TC-Working | heh |
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| 21:30.47 | cogwheel|work | I would love to see my ability icons with animated cooldowns on that thing... |
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| 21:34.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh that would be awesome cogwheel|work |
| 21:34.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | who needs an action bar when your freaking keyboard acts like one |
| 21:35.01 | Shirik|Fooding | it's probably possible |
| 21:35.04 | Shirik|Fooding | just gotta write the code for it |
| 21:35.13 | Shirik|Fooding | guess you'd have to do some illegal stuff though :/ |
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| 21:37.43 | TC-Working | Shirik, does your nickserv part of nbs work correctly? |
| 21:37.50 | Shirik | I don't use it |
| 21:38.08 | TC-Working | well.....blorb |
| 21:40.22 | sysrage | shirik: not really. it'd be theoretically possible to just have a seperate program that knows the timers and it starts counting when you press it.. it wouldn't actually be in sync with the game, but ya |
| 21:40.33 | Shirik | ah I gues |
| 21:40.42 | Shirik | but it wouldn't know if something like spell can't cast, etc. |
| 21:40.47 | sysrage | true |
| 21:44.56 | TC-Working | what do you use Shirik? |
| 21:45.02 | Shirik | I use a keyboard |
| 21:45.05 | Shirik | and type /ns identify |
| 21:45.13 | TC-Working | damit...i'm a lzay bastard |
| 21:45.16 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:51.45 | Tem | mmkay |
| 21:51.54 | Tem | so the end of the gorefiend questline is badass |
| 21:52.13 | zenzelezz | I think I saw something about fighting him in the Black Temple? |
| 21:53.43 | foxlit | Something to that effect, yes |
| 21:54.51 | Tem | I was just refering to the part where you get him as a pet |
| 21:55.06 | JoshBorke | yea, it's fun :-) |
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| 21:55.20 | zenzelezz | I know, but it's all the more awesome if you know that you unleashing him means you get to fight him in BT |
| 21:55.25 | foxlit | Or he gets you as a pet :P |
| 21:55.37 | foxlit | I wish they'd make the world less static, though. |
| 21:55.49 | foxlit | If you've released him once, there's no point in you seeing the shadowmoon spirit at the altar. |
| 21:56.16 | foxlit | Although I guess that'd make screenshotting NPCs hell. |
| 21:56.23 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.38 | zenzelezz | FWIW, WoW is pretty good about such things, like items you can see all the time, but only interact with when you're on certain quests |
| 21:57.21 | foxlit | would map objects? |
| 21:58.44 | Kaydeethree | cog, you alive? your copy-paste response is broken... need to remove the =1 at the end of the link |
| 21:59.55 | cogwheel|work | oops |
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| 22:06.17 | JoshBorke | crud, i can't seem to log in now |
| 22:21.43 | batrick | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 22:21.43 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps JoshBorke |
| 22:21.52 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:21.55 | Shirik | JoshBorke got tmed |
| 22:22.21 | Kaydeethree | how did I know that general was going to be full of the AV exploit complaints today? |
| 22:22.44 | Shirik | you're obviously psychic |
| 22:23.04 | Kaydeethree | it's AV holiday weekend |
| 22:25.18 | foxlit | WC radio needs better pipes! |
| 22:29.09 | batrick | i knew the owner of WC radio |
| 22:29.11 | batrick | in game |
| 22:29.14 | batrick | he was a real dick : / |
| 22:29.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man i love having friends who can code so i don't have to |
| 22:30.05 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:30.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | had a friend throw together a greasemonkey script to convert all links on this page to wowhead links: http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Cat_Sustained_DPS/Head.html |
| 22:30.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, thottbot links that is |
| 22:30.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | from thott->wowhead |
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| 22:30.46 | foxlit | regular string replace would do? |
| 22:31.20 | foxlit | Notepad and about 3s of research is what it'd take :P |
| 22:31.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, but i'm lazy |
| 22:31.46 | foxlit | Very. |
| 22:31.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do it yourself when you can get someone else to do it |
| 22:32.07 | foxlit | Explaining what you want takes longer than doing it. |
| 22:32.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, he was going for the same thing |
| 22:32.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i linked him that, said "hey, make a greasemonkey script making these into wowhead links" "okay" |
| 22:33.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | he also wrote one to change wowhead's logo back to their old one on the event that they ever convert to their new one |
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| 22:33.48 | foxlit | They have a new one? |
| 22:34.14 | foxlit | Ooh, looks awesome! |
| 22:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugly :[ |
| 22:42.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it goes from being nice and simple to being busy and messy |
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| 22:45.04 | Industrial | er, rocket+face |
| 22:45.04 | Kaydeethree | huzzah! a sticky in general talking about the upcoming spam-prevention features |
| 22:45.04 | JoshBorke | rain coming in at 45 degree angle ftw! |
| 22:45.05 | Kaydeethree | maybe this'll cut down on the "stop the spamming" spam |
| 22:47.34 | cogwheel|work | my favorite 2.1 patch note: Fixed an issue in which gnomes were unable to surface properly after being underwater. |
| 22:47.39 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 22:47.41 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.01 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, poke |
| 22:48.13 | Shirik | I shall return the poke tenfold! |
| 22:48.16 | Shirik | ~poke Tem|AFK |
| 22:48.26 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Tem|AFK, pokes Tem|AFK repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:48.35 | Tem|AFK | check the post where you commented about a GM's usage of "it's" |
| 22:49.10 | cogwheel|work | oh and Fixed an error where tauren males and gnomes were unable to gain the benefit of drinking water when in areas of shallow and deep water. |
| 22:49.27 | Kaydeethree | huzzah. no having to blink to land in black morass |
| 22:49.33 | Tem|AFK | wait |
| 22:49.38 | Tem|AFK | you can drink when swimming now? |
| 22:49.39 | Kaydeethree | s/no having/no more having/ |
| 22:49.47 | cogwheel|work | Tem|AFK: no... |
| 22:49.57 | Tem|AFK | so what's the comment about deep water? |
| 22:50.01 | cogwheel|work | it's when you're NOT swimming, but drinking makes you sit so you start drowning |
| 22:50.02 | Shirik | "To verify it's use in game" |
| 22:50.04 | Shirik | that is most definitely wrong |
| 22:50.15 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, oh |
| 22:50.23 | Tem|AFK | Shirik, I didn't notice that one |
| 22:50.24 | cogwheel|work | Tem|AFK: I assume that's only regarding the tauren :P |
| 22:50.27 | Shirik | =P |
| 22:50.38 | Tem|AFK | I was looking at "It's players like you..." |
| 22:53.24 | Cairenn|afk | link? |
| 22:53.40 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102905050&sid=1 |
| 22:55.00 | nymbia | neat |
| 22:55.18 | Cairenn|afk | I meant the one where the GM/CM doesn't know how to spell, but that was a good read too |
| 22:55.55 | Tem|AFK | even after having seen a GM say such things, I'm not sure he's correct |
| 22:56.08 | Tem|AFK | after all, isn't the voice command program just sending keypresses to wow? |
| 22:56.20 | Tem|AFK | _surely_ they can detect that |
| 22:56.53 | Tem|AFK | and it seems like that sort of thing could be misconstrued as bot-like |
| 22:57.10 | Tem|AFK | but then, I don't think they ban you without actually viewing bot-like activity |
| 22:57.11 | nymbia | that'd fall into the category of stuff warden would need to watch for |
| 22:57.24 | Tem|AFK | right |
| 22:57.32 | Tem|AFK | and afaik, it does look for that type of thing |
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| 22:57.52 | Kaydeethree | cai, if you still haven't gotten privmsg'd the link: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102904545&sid=1 |
| 22:57.54 | Tem|AFK | (and by actually viewing the bot-like activity, I mean having a GM observe you) |
| 23:07.00 | cogwheel|work | Damn... they should've added a Gnomes section to the patch notes... I just found two more gnome-specific ones >< |
| 23:07.59 | zenzelezz | ffs, gnome favoritism |
| 23:09.00 | cogwheel|work | more like gnome unnerfitism |
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| 23:11.44 | Kaydeethree | truth |
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| 23:21.14 | Bleeter | quick question to WoW Winters... has *anyone* managed to get the new background downloader to work? |
| 23:21.17 | Bleeter | er |
| 23:21.18 | Bleeter | WoW Winers |
| 23:22.00 | Industrial | haste: ^ |
| 23:22.12 | sysrage | mine was downloading earlier today |
| 23:22.13 | Kaydeethree | I could never get it to load |
| 23:22.20 | haste | I haven't tried |
| 23:22.21 | Kaydeethree | I just said screw it and gave the torrent to azuzreus |
| 23:22.26 | Kaydeethree | finished overnight |
| 23:22.36 | haste | I usually extract it and feed it to rtorrent myself |
| 23:22.49 | Hallu2 | haha yeah |
| 23:22.57 | Hallu2 | just give the torrent to a real irc client |
| 23:22.57 | Bleeter | yeah, I used other torrent progs to get it. Just kind of a worrying precedent |
| 23:23.00 | Hallu2 | err torrent |
| 23:23.02 | Hallu2 | lol |
| 23:23.17 | Kaydeethree | meh, the ptr's still refusing to exit |
| 23:23.24 | Kaydeethree | hopefully that'll be getting fixed in the next build |
| 23:25.24 | Hallu2 | haha at the speaker playing a wav of what commands to do for voicecommander |
| 23:25.51 | Hallu2 | "heal... renew... shield... heal..." |
| 23:27.59 | Corrodias | wowwiki has no mirrors listed for patch 2.1 yet, although it may not be talking about the torrents |
| 23:28.59 | Kaydeethree | my usual mirror doesn't have it up yet, I expect it'll be soon... http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 23:31.37 | Corrodias | i don't think i'm getting a torrent file... or maybe that's the first mpq coming in |
| 23:32.31 | Kaydeethree | the first mpq's ~247 MB. your torrent's in the Cache folder |
| 23:32.57 | Corrodias | cache, these days? okay, thanks |
| 23:34.00 | Gnarfoz | no enGB torrent yet :< |
| 23:39.39 | Legorol | can i ask for the assistance of someone who has successfully used the background downloader? |
| 23:39.42 | Legorol | i have a very important question: |
| 23:40.01 | Legorol | does the background downloader honor the "peer-to-peer disabled" option that is available in the regular downloader? |
| 23:40.14 | Legorol | if someone could find this out for me, i'd be very grateful |
| 23:40.34 | Legorol | (i want to be able to disable the background downloader from even attempting peer-to-peer in the first place) |
| 23:40.45 | Legorol | but not knowing when it will launch, this could be hard |
| 23:42.10 | Legorol | btw, PTRs down? |
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| 23:57.09 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 23:57.30 | Kaydeethree | there's still another patch coming for the ptr most likely, there's another round of item updates that needs to happen |
| 23:58.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | hopefully it hits this weekend then goes live tuesday, but i doubt it |
| 23:58.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want my epic flight form :[ |
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