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| 00:01.59 | Corrodias | ah, old spongebob |
| 00:02.06 | Corrodias | absolutely fantastic |
| 00:02.13 | Corrodias | not like new spongebob. not at all. |
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| 00:11.45 | JoshBorke | ciao for now |
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| 00:33.59 | foxlit | >>> math.huge |
| 00:33.59 | Cide | foxlit: 1.#INF |
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| 00:40.19 | Industrial | http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=patcondell&p=r |
| 00:40.20 | Industrial | start with last |
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| 01:08.38 | Corrodias | meh, my UI takes a ridiculous amount of time to load |
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| 01:22.57 | cogwheel | asdfghjkl |
| 01:23.04 | cogwheel | why are people on the forums such idiots? |
| 01:23.43 | cogwheel | (and I actually typed asdfghjkl manually, as no one would've recognized aoeuidhtn--'cept maybe JoshBorke) |
| 01:26.35 | wobin | Luke, come to the dvorak side? |
| 01:28.07 | cogwheel | sometin' like dat |
| 01:28.16 | Kaydeethree | full moon or something tonight? |
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| 01:40.15 | Bleeter | cogwheel: my theory goes like this (I may have said this before in here, apols if I have)... |
| 01:40.43 | Bleeter | 50% of the population have below avg IQ. Out of the remaining 50% of above average, there's a collection who don't have the time to participate in a discussion |
| 01:40.54 | Bleeter | then there's another collection who just, sensibly, run fleeing |
| 01:41.11 | Bleeter | leaving only a minority of the above avg intelligence participating |
| 01:41.48 | Bleeter | one could argue that there'd be a similar split to the below avg pop, however my counter would be given the above avg split, it's a lot easier for the morons to gang together to try and make each other look smart |
| 01:42.01 | Bleeter | further driving away the population of the above avg intelligence |
| 01:44.31 | cogwheel | I think you'd like the book Freakonomics :) |
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| 01:46.08 | cogwheel | d.nnr Hrodxrpt. :) |
| 01:46.14 | Legorol | Bleeter: 50% is below average? Extremely and highly unlikely |
| 01:46.14 | cogwheel | hello JoshBorke |
| 01:46.37 | Legorol | That'd be a freakishly wierd and unlikely coincidence, especially given the number of people making up the population |
| 01:46.48 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:46.49 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 01:47.07 | Bleeter | Legorol: IQ is a measure of a populations average intelligence, individuals are marked against the average, with 100 being 'average'. If you're 90, you're below, if you're 110 you're above. |
| 01:47.21 | Bleeter | Legorol: given it's an average of the population... 50% are below avg, 50% above ;) |
| 01:47.33 | Legorol | ehm.... |
| 01:47.43 | Legorol | take the following numbers: 1, 2, 3, 10 |
| 01:47.50 | Legorol | average is 8, 3 are below it |
| 01:48.03 | JoshBorke | cogwheel: |
| 01:48.17 | JoshBorke | cogwheel: i use the default left alt+shift |
| 01:48.24 | Legorol | i think you are mixing it up with median |
| 01:48.29 | cogwheel | Actually, i did that jsut for fun :P |
| 01:48.40 | JoshBorke | :P |
| 01:48.44 | Legorol | (ok so the more mathematically educated will come along and say that "average" is a general term that covers both mean and median) |
| 01:48.46 | cogwheel | I actually hit the qwerty-equivalent keys with the dvorak layout |
| 01:48.47 | Bleeter | Legorol: I think you've scored their IQ *before* finding the avg |
| 01:49.01 | JoshBorke | it's even weirder when you hit the dvorak equivalent keys in qwerty |
| 01:49.16 | cogwheel | jdpps cs;jnsovd |
| 01:49.25 | JoshBorke | see what i mean? |
| 01:49.29 | Legorol | Bleeter: irrelevant |
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| 01:51.05 | Legorol | As long as you are using this definition for the average: "the sum of all IQ scored divided by the number of people" |
| 01:51.05 | Legorol | Doesn't matter how you score, you won't get 50% below average |
| 01:51.05 | Legorol | or i should say it's extremely unlikely you do |
| 01:51.06 | Legorol | anyhow, let's not argue too much about it, i was mostly just trying to tease you |
| 01:51.06 | Bleeter | the other thing to not about your previous figures, where the average was '8', the majority were *extremely* stupid ;) |
| 01:51.13 | Bleeter | *to note |
| 01:51.21 | cogwheel | haha... this thread keeps right on delivering :P http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104571846&sid=1 |
| 01:52.07 | Kaydeethree | gah. how the hell is it not sinking in for this guy? |
| 01:52.19 | Bleeter | so yeah, I prolly got the terminology wrong, but I still stand by my theory that there's a bucketload of idiots out there trying to be a big fish ;) |
| 01:53.10 | Kaydeethree | and woo for trodi for even thinking to check post history |
| 01:56.27 | Legorol | well, this AutoIt guy... i think you need to spell it out for him more straightforwardly: |
| 01:56.34 | Legorol | his *question itself* is wrong in the first place |
| 01:56.42 | Legorol | it's not *what* you use, it's *how* you use it |
| 01:56.53 | Legorol | there is no answer to his question because it's irrelevant, end of story |
| 01:57.09 | Legorol | i haven't seen this posted yet ;-) |
| 01:57.14 | Legorol | or at least not so clearly |
| 01:58.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know the name of the endcap gryphons' frame(s)? i remember hearing they're different |
| 01:58.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, hearing they're their own frame, blah, not thinking right today |
| 01:59.44 | Legorol | today? |
| 01:59.57 | Corrodias | i'm having trouble deciding on my hunter build. again. |
| 02:00.10 | Legorol | beast/mm/survival triple build |
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| 02:00.32 | Legorol | actually i never played survival, should try it on the PTR whilst it's still up |
| 02:01.23 | Corrodias | it's more that i'm trying to decide between putting enough points into marksmanship to get Go for the Throat or enough into survival to get Trap Mastery |
| 02:01.37 | Corrodias | i -want- to do the former, but i suspect the latter might make life in instances a lot easier |
| 02:02.08 | Kaydeethree | 3 hours to go... |
| 02:02.29 | Legorol | for the announcement? |
| 02:02.33 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 02:02.54 | Legorol | i think trap mastery gives you so much more utility, especially in heroics |
| 02:03.03 | Legorol | the other is just a boring dps boosting talent |
| 02:03.29 | Corrodias | nothing boring about having more damage |
| 02:04.36 | Corrodias | but... i think i must go for clever traps & trap mastery |
| 02:04.49 | sysrage | snake traps FTW |
| 02:05.05 | Corrodias | i am pretty sure snake trap is unaffected by those talents |
| 02:05.11 | sysrage | they still rock :P |
| 02:06.15 | sysrage | i dunno jack about hunter talents. i just love snake traps :) |
| 02:07.18 | JoshBorke | k, i gave my opinion |
| 02:08.04 | Corrodias | now, what's a mob's chance to resist a trap? hmm |
| 02:08.30 | Corrodias | according to this, " If the target is +1 level compared to you: 95% // +2 levels: 94% // +3 levels: 83% if the target is a mob, 87% if the target is a player." |
| 02:09.25 | Corrodias | a -10% chance to resist a trap, given WoW's tendency to use additive stacking, would mean 2 points in trap mastery would make up to level 73 mobs not able to resist them. i could be wrong. |
| 02:09.27 | gnorlish | so same as magic resists |
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| 02:10.16 | Corrodias | that's my guess. i used the magic hit/miss article. |
| 02:10.30 | Corrodias | i don't really know. |
| 02:11.55 | Corrodias | i doubt there are many mobs out there of level 73 who aren't inherently immune to traps, but whatever, by the time i've put one point into it i might as well put in the second point |
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| 02:33.28 | GSquared | greetings, I am still a bit new to all of this so I am sorry if the my question is pedestrian, but some lua files seem to be obfuscated in some way, is there a way to make them human readable |
| 02:36.28 | JoshBork1 | GSquared: no automagic way |
| 02:36.40 | GSquared | JoshBork1: but a manual way? what exactly is being done to make the file unreadable |
| 02:38.19 | GSquared | Are those lua files obfuscated for a technical reason, or an IP reason? |
| 02:38.42 | JoshBork1 | GSquared: what do you mean by obfuscated? what do they look like? |
| 02:38.46 | JoshBork1 | pastey an example |
| 02:40.05 | GSquared | done |
| 02:40.16 | cladhaire | ... |
| 02:40.20 | cladhaire | can we have a link? =) |
| 02:40.24 | wobin | What's the link = |
| 02:40.25 | GSquared | sorry, never used pastey before :) |
| 02:40.32 | GSquared | http://wowi.pastey.net/347813 |
| 02:40.35 | GSquared | im assuming that its |
| 02:40.51 | cladhaire | Error, that code is not available |
| 02:40.52 | Legorol | same here |
| 02:41.35 | GSquared | checking :) |
| 02:41.46 | GSquared | http://wowi.pastey.net/34781-2kfs |
| 02:41.49 | GSquared | that any better? |
| 02:41.59 | cladhaire | thottbot |
| 02:42.01 | Legorol | that's Thottbot |
| 02:42.03 | cladhaire | if you want to unobfuscate it |
| 02:42.06 | GSquared | yes |
| 02:42.07 | cladhaire | write a script to do it. |
| 02:42.16 | Legorol | it's obfuscate for intellectual property reasons: |
| 02:42.25 | GSquared | figured as much |
| 02:42.26 | Legorol | too many people were stealing Thott's code, so he made it unreadable |
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| 02:42.39 | Legorol | it's still completely valid Lua code, he just changed variable names etc. to make it hard to digest |
| 02:42.47 | GSquared | :) |
| 02:43.25 | GSquared | is there another reasonable example of a wow addon that supports automated communication with an external server? |
| 02:43.35 | Legorol | this one doesn't |
| 02:43.37 | Legorol | no addon can |
| 02:43.38 | cladhaire | well, thottbot doesn't automatically communicate |
| 02:43.40 | cladhaire | cause nothing can |
| 02:43.47 | Legorol | beat cladhaire, ha! |
| 02:43.51 | GSquared | :) |
| 02:43.52 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:43.56 | cladhaire | i'm in SV right now |
| 02:43.57 | cladhaire | slow |
| 02:43.57 | Legorol | brevity ftw |
| 02:44.00 | GSquared | how does Thott accomplish it |
| 02:44.07 | cladhaire | you run an executable. |
| 02:44.11 | cladhaire | that uploads the savedvariable file |
| 02:44.12 | Legorol | there is an external executable which the user runs outside WoW |
| 02:44.15 | cladhaire | simple as that |
| 02:44.46 | GSquared | makes sense, gota love security from evil viri |
| 02:44.55 | Legorol | and unfortunately you won't be given help here for unobfuscating the file, because it was clearly done with the intent of making others not read it |
| 02:45.02 | Legorol | that's Thott's right to do, and we respect that |
| 02:45.13 | Legorol | nothing to do with viri |
| 02:45.13 | GSquared | thats 100% fine, I am happy to respect Thotts IP desires |
| 02:45.17 | Legorol | WoW it's a sandbox |
| 02:45.34 | Legorol | no communication with the outside world, except for saved variables which are written out on logout/reload UI |
| 02:45.55 | Legorol | it's actually done to prevent/limit botting |
| 02:46.44 | JoshBorke | and chatlog/combatlog and framexml! |
| 02:46.45 | GSquared | thats why the game exit is required? |
| 02:47.19 | Legorol | the logout/reload ui is required for writing out data so that no addon can communicate outwards in real time |
| 02:47.39 | Legorol | otherwise it could relay data out that a bot writer could use for its advantage |
| 02:47.59 | GSquared | I guess im not thinking deviously enough |
| 02:48.20 | cladhaire | heh |
| 02:48.22 | Legorol | simple enough things: imagine realtime output of your opponent's health |
| 02:48.38 | Legorol | bot write writes code that reacts to that end sends keypresses to WoW |
| 02:48.44 | Legorol | s/end/and/ |
| 02:48.53 | Legorol | bah my typing sucks tonight |
| 02:48.58 | GSquared | :) |
| 02:49.00 | GSquared | thats fine |
| 02:49.07 | GSquared | thanks! then I have no desire to be able to read Thotts code now |
| 02:49.16 | Legorol | trust me, you are better off |
| 02:49.22 | Legorol | even unobfuscated, it's unreadable ;-) |
| 02:49.22 | GSquared | ha! no problem |
| 02:49.34 | Legorol | heck, i tried to read the original, and it makes your head spin |
| 02:49.36 | GSquared | I work with someone like that... |
| 02:50.40 | GSquared | thanks everyone for your assistance, you have cleared up some of my confusion and leave me to think new thoughts |
| 02:50.42 | Legorol | as an aside, |
| 02:50.56 | Legorol | i found it amusing that as soon as you pasted it several of us went Thottbot |
| 02:51.23 | GSquared | I was amused that it was so obvious |
| 02:51.23 | GSquared | I figured it was some common script to obfuscate code |
| 02:51.25 | Legorol | it is, because it's about the only widely known addon that's obfuscated, |
| 02:51.35 | Legorol | and also because it does have some telltale signs |
| 02:51.44 | Kaydeethree | meh. one of the mass-AV-join scripts was obfuscated |
| 02:52.12 | GSquared | I would assume that most of you have been doing the WoW thing for a while |
| 02:52.35 | Legorol | some of us, yes |
| 02:52.36 | GSquared | I have seen rumor of a guild bank feature in post 2.1 world |
| 02:52.37 | JoshBorke | since Dec 29! |
| 02:52.39 | cladhaire | that's one way to put it =) |
| 02:52.45 | GSquared | longer than me :) |
| 02:52.45 | Legorol | JoshBorke: which year ;-) |
| 02:52.46 | Kaydeethree | gsquared: 2.2 |
| 02:53.01 | Legorol | i think 2.2 is too early |
| 02:53.03 | GSquared | what kind of timeline is 2.2? does anyone know |
| 02:53.06 | Legorol | as in ulikely for it to be in 2.2 |
| 02:53.14 | JoshBorke | 2006! |
| 02:53.23 | Legorol | O.O |
| 02:53.26 | Kaydeethree | considering it's been 4 months since BC was released... probably another 4 |
| 02:53.29 | cladhaire | nothing says its 2.2 |
| 02:53.31 | Legorol | i could've sworn you'd been around longer |
| 02:53.33 | cladhaire | it says post 2.1 for a reason |
| 02:53.35 | Legorol | gosh, time flies |
| 02:53.41 | JoshBorke | i have :P |
| 02:53.52 | JoshBorke | when did it come out? 2004? |
| 02:53.57 | Kaydeethree | mac techs have said voip's coming in 2.2. |
| 02:54.02 | Legorol | 11 Feb 2005 in EU |
| 02:54.03 | JoshBorke | i was just kidding |
| 02:54.11 | JoshBorke | ok, dec 29 2004 i started |
| 02:54.12 | GSquared | I wanted to attempt to automate guild banking in some fashion, all I could find was guild bank manager/guild tools, and my deepest appologies if I insult someone, but I find them both individually and together lacking |
| 02:54.17 | JoshBorke | modding was some time in 2005 |
| 02:54.29 | Legorol | hm, let's see |
| 02:54.37 | Legorol | my first modding is probably around may/june 2004 |
| 02:55.09 | Legorol | wrote my first mod without having WoW, then i was pestering people on IRC to try it for me |
| 02:55.23 | GSquared | im debating developing my own solution if its going to be useless in 2 weeks, but if its 4months+ out in the future, it would be worth my time |
| 02:55.30 | GSquared | hahah |
| 02:55.32 | JoshBorke | looks like i started modding the start of 2006 |
| 02:55.35 | JoshBorke | wow, i've come a LONG way |
| 02:55.36 | Legorol | guild bank won't be 2.1 |
| 02:55.53 | Kaydeethree | of course not. 2.1's coming this tuesday or next |
| 02:55.56 | Legorol | and it isn't even confirmed officially that 2.1's next week |
| 02:56.01 | GSquared | :) |
| 02:56.13 | Legorol | so you have plenty of time till 2.2 |
| 02:56.17 | GSquared | fair enough |
| 02:56.27 | GSquared | do any of you know of a better guild bank automation alternative |
| 02:56.42 | Legorol | btw, i think you are too polite |
| 02:56.43 | GSquared | I code for a living, I hate wasting my time building something that already exists |
| 02:56.47 | Legorol | you need to insult people more ;-) |
| 02:56.52 | Legorol | ~lart JoshBorke |
| 02:56.52 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, JoshBorke!" and lops off JoshBorke's head |
| 02:56.56 | Legorol | see? |
| 02:57.00 | JoshBorke | ~punish Legorol |
| 02:57.11 | purl | ACTION forces Legorol to install and use Windows |
| 02:57.11 | GSquared | I miss seeing fish slapping in IRC |
| 02:57.11 | JoshBorke | ~insult Legorol |
| 02:57.18 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:57.18 | Legorol | thanks purl! |
| 02:57.29 | Legorol | and it even made me install Windows, i'm happy! |
| 02:57.37 | GSquared | haha |
| 02:57.45 | JoshBorke | someone should change that to Windows ME |
| 02:57.46 | GSquared | being on IRC makes me feel old |
| 02:57.48 | Legorol | <- avid Windows fan, contrary to most of the channel |
| 02:57.55 | GSquared | ahhh |
| 02:57.56 | Legorol | JoshBorke: now *that* would hurt |
| 02:58.05 | GSquared | most people are Linux users? |
| 02:58.09 | JoshBorke | no |
| 02:58.11 | Legorol | nope, but Linux fans |
| 02:58.12 | GSquared | mac? |
| 02:58.13 | JoshBorke | we just bash windows :P |
| 02:58.15 | GSquared | hahah |
| 02:58.17 | Kaydeethree | <-- linux user |
| 02:58.19 | GSquared | I use windows, and I bash it |
| 02:58.22 | haste | << linux user |
| 02:58.25 | Legorol | most people here are computer geeks, hence linux users |
| 02:58.28 | GSquared | I dream of mac os 10.5 though |
| 02:58.33 | Legorol | but almost everyone plays WoW on Windows |
| 02:58.38 | Legorol | so most people here run both |
| 02:58.45 | Kaydeethree | not I |
| 02:58.46 | Legorol | i know one or two here that runs WoW under Linux |
| 02:58.49 | haste | I don't either |
| 02:58.54 | Kaydeethree | wine all the way |
| 02:58.58 | GSquared | :) ive got 3 computers at my feet, xp, fbsd and ubuntu |
| 02:58.59 | haste | same |
| 02:59.07 | JoshBorke | GSquared: woot! |
| 02:59.12 | Legorol | GSquared, you'll find this is also a computer geek's club ;-) |
| 02:59.18 | JoshBorke | wtb background FS checks in linux |
| 02:59.20 | Legorol | by sheer coincidence |
| 02:59.21 | GSquared | and my old TiBook covered in dust |
| 02:59.40 | Legorol | btw, do hang around and stay |
| 02:59.53 | Legorol | especillay if you are likely going to face AddOn coding questions/problems |
| 02:59.57 | Legorol | this channel is very helpful |
| 03:00.03 | JoshBorke | i'd give my left pinky (control key) for background FS checks in linux |
| 03:00.03 | Legorol | and gets very exciting techincal discussions going |
| 03:00.10 | Legorol | like whether apple or raspberry pie is better |
| 03:00.15 | GSquared | I always turn to IRC for help, its a fantastic resource |
| 03:00.27 | GSquared | cherry pie! hands down, |
| 03:00.33 | Legorol | heretic! |
| 03:00.34 | JoshBorke | pie sucks |
| 03:00.35 | Kaydeethree | apple |
| 03:00.48 | GSquared | unless the apple is sour-ish, with those sweet buttery crumbles on top |
| 03:00.55 | Legorol | now we are talking |
| 03:01.24 | GSquared | not overcooked gooey apples mind you, nicely cooked yet slightly firm |
| 03:01.30 | JoshBorke | purl, repeat after me, pie sucks |
| 03:01.42 | Legorol | does anyone know of a live feed of the Korean event thingy? |
| 03:02.02 | GSquared | so there isnt a better guild bank tool out there than Guild Tools? I should go ahead and start dreaming my big dreams? |
| 03:02.18 | Legorol | actually, what event is it that's going on in Korea right now? |
| 03:02.36 | Legorol | GSquared: there may be, have you scoured all the AddOn sites? |
| 03:02.40 | Legorol | wowi, curse, wow.net |
| 03:02.57 | GSquared | scoured no, somewhere between skimmed and searched |
| 03:03.15 | Legorol | it's quite possible there is a better one, and possible there isn't |
| 03:03.19 | Legorol | but coding your own is always fun ;-) |
| 03:04.17 | GSquared | my RoR powered SOAP talking website communicating to a universal python app that proccesses WoW data files written by my first AddOn |
| 03:04.22 | GSquared | mmmm.... dreamy |
| 03:05.11 | GSquared | is there any WoW data index-er ala thottbot or worldofwar that provides some kind of web services interface? |
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| 03:05.46 | GSquared | the one aspect of my idea that is still bouncing around is the idea of item data |
| 03:05.56 | Legorol | wb Cairenn |
| 03:06.03 | Cairenn | hi |
| 03:06.10 | JoshBorke | Cairenn: how was physio? |
| 03:06.18 | Cairenn | painful |
| 03:06.20 | GSquared | I could write an addon/upload pair that takes all that data, but the data is already stored on so many websites, it seems like a waste |
| 03:06.23 | JoshBorke | :( |
| 03:07.28 | Cairenn | I'll survive it, not like this is my first experience with it |
| 03:07.44 | JoshBorke | purl, massage Cairenn |
| 03:07.52 | purl | ACTION gives Cairenn a terribly relaxing full-body massage that puts Cairenn to sleep |
| 03:07.52 | Legorol | is there a site for the worldwide invitational? |
| 03:08.04 | Legorol | it's the kind of thing you would know, Cairenn ;_) |
| 03:08.09 | Cairenn | oi, wouldn't that be nice! |
| 03:08.36 | Cairenn | Legorol: no idea, I don't follow it |
| 03:08.44 | Legorol | ok |
| 03:08.46 | GSquared | Folks, you have been fantastic! I am very greatful for your assistance, with any hope, ill return with lots of questions |
| 03:09.08 | Legorol | hope to see you around |
| 03:09.41 | JoshBorke | bb |
| 03:09.59 | Thunder_Chil1 | the topic should say something like "Over 1 million lua users served." |
| 03:09.59 | GSquared | oh, one last question, if you dont mind, and since some of you seem to knwo Thott |
| 03:10.14 | GSquared | is there a way to contact him? or is that a no no |
| 03:11.23 | cladhaire | well why would you need to contact him?. |
| 03:12.00 | GSquared | I was wondering about the idea of a web services (soap, whatever) interface to thotbot |
| 03:12.10 | GSquared | really any site that offered it would be neat |
| 03:12.23 | GSquared | but I use/like thotbot the best, I think its the best out there |
| 03:12.38 | Xuerian | wowhead... >_> |
| 03:12.39 | cladhaire | its not something he hasn't thought of |
| 03:13.24 | GSquared | I can think of a host a reasons why Thotbot doest offer it, I was just wondering if it was something that was planned, or if there was a need for a hand in developing it to make it a reality, or if it was a non-issue due to abuse/serverload issues |
| 03:13.42 | cladhaire | i know wowhead is working on an API |
| 03:13.56 | GSquared | to expose the thotbot data? |
| 03:14.02 | cladhaire | .. no |
| 03:14.04 | cladhaire | the wowhead data. |
| 03:14.09 | GSquared | ahhh |
| 03:14.14 | GSquared | sorry, ive never used wowhead |
| 03:14.25 | cladhaire | not a problem, no need to apoligize. |
| 03:15.22 | Legorol | anyone speak Korean? http://wwi.blizzard.co.kr/ |
| 03:15.39 | haste | heh |
| 03:15.46 | GSquared | where does one find out about wowheads progress on this? |
| 03:16.14 | Legorol | www.wowhead.com |
| 03:16.48 | GSquared | found it :) was looking at the faq not about us |
| 03:17.47 | THUNDER_CHILD | Legorol: put it through googles translator? |
| 03:17.59 | Kaydeethree | if only it handled flash |
| 03:18.03 | GSquared | is it easy to extract the image icon of an item and export it out of wow via an AddOn |
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| 03:19.39 | GSquared | eh, no worries, ill deal with it in the future :) |
| 03:19.39 | Legorol | GSquared: yes and no |
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| 03:19.44 | GSquared | fair enough :) ill ask more when I come to that point |
| 03:19.56 | DT___ | You really only extract the path with an addon |
| 03:19.57 | Legorol | an AddOn can't directly export the image, but it can deduce a host of information about the item |
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| 03:20.20 | DT___ | The image icon has to be extracted via an mpq reader, like WinMPQ |
| 03:20.34 | Kaydeethree | or the blizzard interface extraction kit |
| 03:20.35 | GSquared | so the addon could provide enough information for an external script to extract the image and upload it somewhere |
| 03:20.38 | Legorol | Kaydeethree: nope |
| 03:20.47 | Kaydeethree | huh, it doesn't include all of the icons? |
| 03:20.49 | Legorol | Kaydeethree: that doesn't extract graphics |
| 03:20.55 | Legorol | no, only UI code |
| 03:20.57 | Legorol | on purpose |
| 03:21.05 | Legorol | technically you are not supposed to extract anything else |
| 03:21.11 | Legorol | people do it anyway and Blizzard doesn't mind *shrug* |
| 03:21.16 | GSquared | :) |
| 03:21.21 | Kaydeethree | there's 2 buttons in my copy of it... |
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| 04:00.18 | Kaydeethree | ~purl weblog |
| 04:00.32 | purl | Logfile toolkit for Python. URL: http://mnot.cbd.net.au//scripting/python/WebLog/ |
| 04:01.09 | Thunder_Child | ~weblog |
| 04:01.11 | purl | Logfile toolkit for Python. URL: http://mnot.cbd.net.au//scripting/python/WebLog/ |
| 04:01.13 | Thunder_Child | ~log |
| 04:01.14 | purl | [log] as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation |
| 04:04.30 | Cairenn|afk | ~logs |
| 04:04.31 | purl | rumour has it, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 04:04.59 | Tem | are we spamming the bot? |
| 04:05.08 | Tem | ~laziness |
| 04:05.10 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:05.10 | Tem | ~impatience |
| 04:05.13 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:05.13 | Tem | ~hubris |
| 04:05.20 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. <Hubris> - Eating their cake, too. |
| 04:05.20 | Tem | ~fear of complexity |
| 04:05.22 | purl | ACTION "AAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!" runs screaming away from of complexity until it smashes into a low-hanging tree branch and lies senseless in a pool of it's own drool |
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| 04:44.33 | Aella | "OH and for your information , they only just barely allow UI mods. They can't stop it from the gung ho's who use it, so they tolerate it. Too much keylogging and whatnot for me to want to even add on something not sanctioned officially by Blizz." |
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| 04:46.11 | Xuerian | ... |
| 04:46.14 | Xuerian | where the fuck? |
| 04:46.17 | Kaydeethree | the usual idiocy in general? |
| 04:46.20 | Aella | Yes. |
| 04:46.31 | Xuerian | No, seriously, who said that |
| 04:46.33 | Aella | Someone complaining that they shouldn't have to install SpamSentry. |
| 04:46.51 | Aella | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104493456&sid=1&pageNo=1#1041672865 |
| 04:48.39 | Neuro_Medivh | so did they announce it yet? |
| 04:48.44 | Kaydeethree | 12m |
| 04:48.51 | Neuro_Medivh | but which timezone! |
| 04:48.56 | Kaydeethree | 12 minutes |
| 04:49.01 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh |
| 04:49.02 | Kaydeethree | doesn't matter what timezone |
| 04:49.05 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 04:49.08 | Xuerian | announce what? |
| 04:49.13 | Kaydeethree | starcraft 2, most likely |
| 04:49.13 | nymbia | 12 minutes eastern, 15 minutes central! |
| 04:49.15 | nymbia | wait... |
| 04:49.15 | Neuro_Medivh | thought you meant 12 midnight |
| 04:49.19 | Aella | The thing they've been leading up to for five days or so? |
| 04:49.30 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, they are announcing their next big game |
| 04:49.40 | Xuerian | Uh. |
| 04:49.45 | Aella | Or that they've decided to remake "Warcraft Adventures." |
| 04:49.46 | Neuro_Medivh | smart money is on either Starcraft 2, or some kind of Starcraft MMO |
| 04:49.48 | Xuerian | Don't they do stuff on pacific time? |
| 04:49.53 | Aella | This announcement is in Korea. |
| 04:49.56 | Kaydeethree | it's getting announced in Korea |
| 04:50.01 | Neuro_Medivh | it's being announced at Warcraft Invitational |
| 04:50.04 | Xuerian | haha like fuck it isn't starcraft |
| 04:50.04 | Aella | 10 PM PST/1 AM EST. |
| 04:50.12 | Xuerian | They'll be murdered alive if it isn't |
| 04:50.14 | Aella | It's Starcraft or an RTS, smart money on both. |
| 04:50.14 | nymbia | so true Xuerian |
| 04:50.15 | Neuro_Medivh | and given the popularity of Starcraft over there, it's almost certainly gonna be SC2 |
| 04:50.19 | Xuerian | you know |
| 04:50.20 | Xuerian | this is like |
| 04:50.21 | Xuerian | vs |
| 04:50.23 | Xuerian | murdered dead |
| 04:50.29 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 04:52.03 | Aella | I just *giggled* at one of the retarded "zomg it's official!11!1one" threads in General >.> |
| 04:52.13 | Aella | Someone, slap me. |
| 04:52.16 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, Rickrolled? |
| 04:52.22 | nymbia | ~whaleslap Aella |
| 04:52.24 | purl | ACTION beats Aella upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:52.33 | Aella | No, "It's official": "They're announcing it tonight!" |
| 04:52.51 | Aella | Hey, purl, notice I handed you a wet trout, not Hugh. |
| 04:53.25 | nymbia | ~whalenametheft Aella |
| 04:53.27 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) kicks Aella's ass and steals his/her name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
| 04:53.46 | Aella | Bastard(s). |
| 04:54.05 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleparry nymbia |
| 04:54.07 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry nymbia's attacks. |
| 04:54.55 | Kaydeethree | damn it. of course the auth server has to be down |
| 04:54.58 | Aella | SCV4Hire.com—they're getting a headstart. >.> |
| 04:55.14 | Aella | General is amusing me far too much tonight. /disinfect |
| 04:57.59 | Kaydeethree | heh. the big info thread's about to break with 3 minutes to spare |
| 04:58.09 | nymbia | lol |
| 04:58.15 | Thunder_Child | "Blizzards huge new annoucement is 'We Wr0ck'" |
| 04:58.37 | Kaydeethree | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20070516 |
| 04:59.08 | Thunder_Child | yea, that sounds about right |
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| 05:01.19 | Thunder_Child | where is the info supposed to be released? |
| 05:01.30 | Aella | Haven't a clue. |
| 05:01.35 | Kaydeethree | dunno. most of the gaming sites are covering it |
| 05:01.42 | Aella | Only got this thread to go on, myself: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104561577&sid=1 |
| 05:01.45 | Kaydeethree | it'll probably be on blizzard.com a few seconds after they announce it |
| 05:02.11 | Aella | Dunno, there is no CM presence, doubt the web team is gonna hang around. |
| 05:02.17 | Kaydeethree | neth's on the boards atm |
| 05:02.21 | Aella | I'm guessing that www.blizzard.co.kr will be updated, though. |
| 05:02.26 | Aella | Hmm, okay. |
| 05:02.27 | Kaydeethree | and woo for me nailing post #500 without even trying |
| 05:02.28 | Aella | Possible, then. |
| 05:02.30 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104561577&postId=1041673128&sid=1#500 |
| 05:03.21 | Thunder_Child | hmm..no one had the invitational live? |
| 05:03.24 | Thunder_Child | has* |
| 05:03.29 | Kaydeethree | no one can find a live stream |
| 05:03.41 | Kaydeethree | http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html |
| 05:03.47 | Kaydeethree | the page I'm spam-refreshing |
| 05:04.29 | clad|sleep | whens it expected to be announced. |
| 05:04.34 | Aella | About now. |
| 05:04.34 | Kaydeethree | any minute now |
| 05:04.38 | nymbia | 4 minutes ago |
| 05:04.46 | clad|sleep | oh wow |
| 05:05.05 | Aella | It's just like an Apple keynote, only with less sleep |
| 05:05.16 | Thunder_Child | and better results |
| 05:05.19 | Aella | Presentation hasn't started yet. |
| 05:05.43 | Thunder_Child | well, this might occupy some time http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=2986832&page=1&rowNum=1&sort=wtime&svcid=2,4,5,8&q=wwi |
| 05:05.46 | Xuerian | The two hour span in which it is expected to be announced started about four minutes ago. It ain't over tilll the hot nelf sings |
| 05:06.01 | Kaydeethree | tchild; nah. it's just a promo |
| 05:06.12 | Kaydeethree | the streaming server for that link is beyond busted |
| 05:06.12 | Thunder_Child | with atractive women |
| 05:06.48 | Thunder_Child | though i still cant tell what statue they are standing next to |
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| 05:06.57 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 05:07.58 | Xuerian | Why don't other video sites make seekers like that |
| 05:07.58 | Xuerian | wtf |
| 05:08.39 | Aella | They really are pulling out all the stops, though. |
| 05:08.40 | Thunder_Child | i know, the popups are great |
| 05:08.43 | Aella | Pyrotechnics? |
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| 05:08.50 | Xuerian | It's blizzard |
| 05:08.52 | Xuerian | "Why not?" |
| 05:09.03 | Xuerian | Not like they have the money or anything >_> |
| 05:09.23 | Aella | These are, after all, the people who made a Valentine's Day commercial for Jewelcrafting. I shouldn't be surprised. |
| 05:09.37 | Xuerian | lol\ |
| 05:09.46 | Thunder_Child | and did a new report |
| 05:09.51 | Thunder_Child | news* |
| 05:10.19 | Kaydeethree | "2:06 PM - Guitar riffs still aggravatingly cheesy. Crowds continuing to fill seating. Ceremony has yet to start." |
| 05:10.57 | Thunder_Child | mmmm...cheese |
| 05:11.14 | Aella | "Gah, this music is horrible…" |
| 05:11.15 | KaoS` | what site is that? |
| 05:11.19 | Aella | http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html |
| 05:11.23 | Kaydeethree | http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html |
| 05:11.31 | Xuerian | haha |
| 05:11.34 | nymbia | 2:08 PM - Another horrible song starting. Large video banks behind announcement stage are displaying Blizzard's WWI logo. People with video cameras are running around everywhere. Gah, this music is bad, awful jazz sax. |
| 05:11.34 | Xuerian | Love the 2 minute updates |
| 05:11.41 | Aella | Three minutes behind. |
| 05:11.43 | Aella | =D |
| 05:11.51 | Xuerian | Should do a irc chat |
| 05:11.59 | Xuerian | with voice only |
| 05:12.03 | Kaydeethree | aw, the [moreinfo] thread just broke |
| 05:12.10 | Aella | And three more were made. |
| 05:12.20 | Aella | Excuse me. Four. |
| 05:12.21 | Xuerian | XD |
| 05:12.35 | Kaydeethree | I feel bad for the network techs watching the server |
| 05:12.39 | Aella | Neth is going pretty berserk, I must admit. |
| 05:12.42 | Kaydeethree | crap! firefox just crahsed |
| 05:12.50 | Xuerian | firefox is getting slow >_> |
| 05:13.17 | Aella | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104523566&sid=1 is one of a very select group of threads. |
| 05:13.34 | Kaydeethree | nope. deleted |
| 05:13.44 | Aella | "North Korea bombs South Korea" |
| 05:13.51 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 05:14.03 | Tem | hah! |
| 05:14.05 | Aella | New update! zomg |
| 05:14.07 | Aella | 2:12 PM - Still hasn't started. Some video guy in front of me is actually dancing to the abominable jazz they're pumping in here. Now he's tapping his feet. |
| 05:14.13 | Tem | a quest named "Needs more Cowbell" |
| 05:14.15 | nymbia | ROFL |
| 05:14.34 | Xuerian | Reload Every -> 15 sec ftw |
| 05:14.34 | Aella | Where is that, Tem? |
| 05:14.39 | Tem | Netherstorm |
| 05:14.42 | nymbia | 2:13 - Korean press in center of floor seating is yelling and doing the wave. |
| 05:14.43 | Aella | 2:13 - Korean press in center of floor seating is yelling and doing the wave. |
| 05:14.59 | nymbia | lies! |
| 05:15.56 | clad|sleep | you guys make me want to stay up |
| 05:15.58 | clad|sleep | but no :P |
| 05:15.59 | Thunder_Child | meh, delay |
| 05:16.01 | KaoS` | laugh |
| 05:16.04 | clad|sleep | bedtime for clad |
| 05:16.07 | nymbia | clad|sleep: wuss! ;) |
| 05:16.18 | Xuerian | 'night, wuss :p |
| 05:16.20 | nymbia | clad|sleep: g'night |
| 05:16.25 | Thunder_Child | night clad |
| 05:16.26 | Aella | Enjoy your dreams, pansy.. |
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| 05:17.38 | Aella | I'm kinda curious how many bans Neth is handing out tonight. |
| 05:17.47 | nymbia | lots and lots |
| 05:17.57 | Aella | That's why I'm not starting any threads. D= |
| 05:18.12 | Aella | WOOT. |
| 05:18.21 | Aella | The party has started. |
| 05:18.25 | nymbia | 2:15 - Blizzard employees currently mounting the stage, lights come on, crowd starts applauding / cheering. |
| 05:18.32 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 05:18.39 | Neuro_Medivh | God bless the internet |
| 05:18.43 | Xuerian | IRC, CHARLES, IRC |
| 05:18.50 | nymbia | rofl |
| 05:19.01 | Xuerian | Waiting for a 15 sec refresh IS TOO LONG DAMMIT |
| 05:19.04 | Aella | I should know that reference. Well, no, I shouldn't, but I'm still left out. |
| 05:19.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have mine set to 5 xue |
| 05:19.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 05:19.48 | Xuerian | :p |
| 05:19.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2:18 - They appear to just be shaking hands, presentation hasn't started yet and another atrocious melody is on the speakers. |
| 05:20.01 | Aella | Roffle. |
| 05:20.15 | Xuerian | This is like when guildwars was released >_> |
| 05:20.22 | Xuerian | There were about 300 people ontop of the CM |
| 05:20.43 | Thunder_Child | orgy? |
| 05:20.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2:19 - Starting. Video playing on screen showing blizzard logo. |
| 05:21.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 05:21.02 | Xuerian | Pretty much XD |
| 05:21.05 | nymbia | odang |
| 05:21.19 | Aella | If they start with the opening cinematic that we won't be able to see… |
| 05:21.39 | Thunder_Child | ~wrists |
| 05:21.53 | purl | You think you're getting blood on my carpet? Get outta here! |
| 05:21.53 | Thunder_Child | boo @ purl |
| 05:22.10 | Aella | What *is* purl? |
| 05:22.15 | Neuro_Medivh | ~purl |
| 05:22.22 | Cairenn|afk | purl, what are you? |
| 05:22.25 | purl | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 05:22.25 | Thunder_Child | our lord and master |
| 05:22.34 | Cairenn|afk | ~blootbot |
| 05:22.36 | purl | somebody said blootbot was an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 05:22.37 | Aella | That term does not fill me with comfort. |
| 05:23.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | <purl> My cpu is a neural net processauuugh. A learning computaaaugh. |
| 05:23.55 | Neuro_Medivh | 2:20 - MCs start presentation. Delivering lengthy speech in Korean - waiting for English translation. |
| 05:24.14 | Aella | There is someone sane on the WoW forums: "How the heck do i buy stock in this company??" |
| 05:24.27 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 05:24.33 | Kaydeethree | ain't that the truth |
| 05:24.44 | Thunder_Child | the same way you buy stock in any other company..... |
| 05:25.17 | Aella | 2:24 - Just showing crowd on screens, welcoming everyone to WWI - lots of screaming for musical guests to perform later on. Includes Ivy. |
| 05:25.23 | Neuro_Medivh | Translation: "Greetings, great People of the Monkey. This today us make great yell for glorious Game of Cold Storm" |
| 05:25.37 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 05:25.46 | Thunder_Child | i want game of cold storm |
| 05:26.35 | Aella | Hmm… didn't know that Blizzard wasn't a public company… I may have to have a talk with my broker. D= |
| 05:26.36 | Xuerian | Apparently there's one stream online |
| 05:26.40 | Xuerian | Choked to hell >_< |
| 05:26.55 | Neuro_Medivh | well, it is, sorta |
| 05:26.56 | Kaydeethree | the only links I've seen are to a 90s promo |
| 05:26.58 | Xuerian | http://sc.gosugamers.net/news.php?id=6297 |
| 05:27.01 | Neuro_Medivh | it's owned by Viacom |
| 05:27.07 | Neuro_Medivh | which is a public company |
| 05:27.14 | Aella | Vivendi, yeah. |
| 05:27.19 | Neuro_Medivh | er, yeah, Vivendi |
| 05:27.21 | Aella | I was joking, kindasorta. |
| 05:27.30 | Neuro_Medivh | Viacom owns EA? |
| 05:28.21 | Aella | Dpm |
| 05:28.26 | Aella | *don't think so. |
| 05:28.33 | Aella | Turned it down, I think. |
| 05:28.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2:27 - Jungwon Hahn, managing director of Blizzard's Korean office speaking now. |
| 05:29.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, http://blizzard.co.kr/images/splash/day7_kr.jpg will probably be updated sometime soon :O |
| 05:29.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's 404ing now, but go to day6 and you'll see it's the wow one |
| 05:29.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2:29 - He's continuing the trend of talking about why WWI is awesome. |
| 05:29.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 05:29.56 | Aella | Dunno if they'll add a splash screen, the timeline doesn't really extend… |
| 05:30.06 | Aella | May remove it, or add a whole new splash screen. |
| 05:30.19 | Xuerian | The fuck, the stream isn't live! >.o |
| 05:30.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has the ? |
| 05:30.23 | Aella | 2:30 - Ok, fireworks just went off. Nobody is dead...yet. |
| 05:30.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the spot |
| 05:30.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 05:30.27 | nymbia | rofl |
| 05:31.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Come on you stupid slackers |
| 05:31.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Delaying this over and over |
| 05:31.41 | Xuerian | This is the american idol of wow gamers >.> |
| 05:32.00 | Thunder_Child | not just wow games |
| 05:32.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Of *Blizzard gamers |
| 05:32.06 | Xuerian | point. |
| 05:32.10 | Thunder_Child | i would go with all gamers |
| 05:32.18 | Thunder_Child | all pc* gamers |
| 05:32.23 | Kaydeethree | it's BLIZZARD. everyone's watching this |
| 05:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You're right |
| 05:32.35 | Thunder_Child | though blizzard has been getting chummy with consoles |
| 05:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | It could be a digital image of crap on a CD |
| 05:32.38 | Aella | Your *dog* is watching this. |
| 05:32.40 | ScytheBlade1 | And it would sell |
| 05:32.52 | Cairenn|afk | 2:31 - Mike Morhaim - president and cofounder of Blizzard introduced. Continuing to introduce people in attendance, they're just sitting in the crowd, though, not approaching the stage. Chris Metzen introduced. |
| 05:33.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | chris metzen is a scary guy |
| 05:33.25 | Aella | I can see that. |
| 05:33.29 | Aella | Thrall's voice sounds… big. |
| 05:34.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/images/photos/TeamSOTS1.jpg |
| 05:34.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2nd from the left |
| 05:34.27 | Aella | Yeah, I've seen videos of the BlizzCon panel. |
| 05:34.38 | Aella | 2:34 - Now they're introducing the professional gamers who'll be participating in the StarCraft and WarCraft 3 tourneys. More fireworks. No fatalities. |
| 05:34.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i saw samwise and metzen in a dark alley, shortly followed by a "werk werk" |
| 05:34.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd run |
| 05:35.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:35.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I would too |
| 05:35.18 | Cairenn|afk | bah, samwise is a big teddy bear |
| 05:35.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | samwise is the guy with the killer beard |
| 05:35.29 | Thunder_Child | meh, they had better coverage for the keynote speeches |
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| 05:35.51 | Kaydeethree | neth's gotta be rolling, watching how fast general's breaking threads |
| 05:36.10 | Xuerian | I can just see him playing Doom: The WoW CM Edition |
| 05:36.17 | Xuerian | Vs sysadmin edition :p |
| 05:36.20 | ScytheBlade1 | 2:35 - These guys are from all over the world, from Taiwan to Poland. Wearing some kind of hybrid NASCAR / track jackets with advertisements all over them. |
| 05:36.59 | Thunder_Child | sad day when game shows turn into digital nascar shows |
| 05:37.07 | Thunder_Child | red neck techies |
| 05:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's Korea |
| 05:37.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty messed up as is |
| 05:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 2:36 - Here come the WarCraft 3 guys. One guy from USA. They're announcing names as well as which race they play in competition. |
| 05:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | COULD YOU GO ANY SLOWER |
| 05:37.42 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 05:37.43 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 05:37.45 | ScytheBlade1 | GIVE US OUR SC2 SO WE CAN SLEEP |
| 05:37.45 | Neuro_Medivh | Ok, Korea makes rock stars out of gamer geeks, it sounds NICE to me |
| 05:37.57 | nymbia | Xuerian: giev |
| 05:38.06 | Xuerian | It isn't covering the event atm |
| 05:38.07 | Xuerian | the bastard |
| 05:38.09 | Xuerian | s* |
| 05:38.27 | Xuerian | Something about pills... |
| 05:38.45 | ScytheBlade1 | 2:37 - Shrill screams of adoration are erupting randomly from the stands at the back of the arena. |
| 05:38.46 | ScytheBlade1 | A hahahahahaha |
| 05:38.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "GAMERS! PMG! OMG!" |
| 05:39.17 | Thunder_Child | what...no air horns? |
| 05:39.18 | KaoS` | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:39.32 | Xuerian | nymbia: http://www.giga.de/live |
| 05:39.39 | Cairenn|afk | your reactions are what's amusing me |
| 05:39.59 | Xuerian | Cairenn|afk: You act like you've never seen a bunch of giddy gamer guys. |
| 05:40.03 | Thunder_Child | we aim to please Cairenn |
| 05:40.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is world history :O |
| 05:40.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | every new first-party blizzard game is always huge |
| 05:40.41 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 05:40.42 | Aella | 2:38 - Now the WC 3 and StarCraft players are taking some sort of "oath." Apparently in the spirit of fair play during the WWI. This is all being said in Korean, but one of the players just made the whole crowd laugh. |
| 05:40.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That's just retarded |
| 05:40.47 | Thunder_Child | somehow i doubt it will be in any history books |
| 05:41.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, but WoW likely will be :O |
| 05:41.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | what if this game's bigger :O |
| 05:41.19 | Aella | As a footnote to a footnote, possibly. |
| 05:41.28 | Xuerian | NEED A LIVE FEED DAMMIT |
| 05:41.51 | Aella | "Hmm, I'm feeling rather rabid this morning, old chump." |
| 05:41.53 | Thunder_Child | hmm...sadly that made me thirsty |
| 05:42.06 | Aella | 2:40 - One of the MCs just tried to explain the joke in English and failed. |
| 05:42.38 | Kaydeethree | yay for sarcastic editors |
| 05:43.18 | Kaydeethree | heh. neth raised another thread's cap |
| 05:43.26 | Aella | 2:41 - Interviewing a WC3 player. Female MC and size of crowd is making him nervous. Another joke in Korean. Now the female MC is complimenting his smile, he's visibly squirming. |
| 05:43.32 | Neuro_Medivh | the only real question is whether it's SC2, or World of Starcraft |
| 05:43.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet it's burgercraft |
| 05:43.53 | Thunder_Child | heh, gaming torture |
| 05:44.13 | Thunder_Child | gamer* |
| 05:44.22 | Cairenn|afk | that's not the only question |
| 05:44.31 | KaoS` | lets go, I want sleep! |
| 05:44.36 | Cairenn|afk | there's also the question of what *type* of game it will be |
| 05:44.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | burger flipping sim |
| 05:44.47 | Kaydeethree | mmo* |
| 05:44.58 | Kaydeethree | viv's making too much money from blizzard to demand anything less |
| 05:45.06 | Cairenn|afk | and no, I"m not giving any more hints than that |
| 05:45.14 | Xuerian | Cairenn|afk: wtfyouknow? |
| 05:45.20 | Aella | If it was an RTS, would it have heroes, like WC3? |
| 05:45.22 | Kaydeethree | slouken probably told her |
| 05:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | 2:45 - Now they're taking the oath saying they'll play for "for the races of each title" and their home country whom they're representing. |
| 05:45.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 05:45.27 | Xuerian | Damn you! |
| 05:45.28 | Cairenn|afk | nope |
| 05:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | JUST GIVE US THE ANSWER |
| 05:45.59 | Aella | But we don't know the question1 |
| 05:46.02 | Thunder_Child | ~calm ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:46.05 | purl | ACTION sooths ScytheBlade1, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm ScytheBlade1 down. |
| 05:46.05 | Aella | Or the question2 |
| 05:46.08 | Cairenn|afk | 42 |
| 05:46.18 | Aella | Well, yes, but what actually is it? |
| 05:46.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | If you don't tell us I will PUNCH THIS KITTEN |
| 05:46.29 | Kaydeethree | how many roads must a man walk down? |
| 05:46.31 | Thunder_Child | pics or it didnt happen |
| 05:47.20 | Cairenn|afk | you guys should know better by now |
| 05:47.29 | Xuerian | Cairenn|afk: Again, giddy gamer guys. |
| 05:47.31 | Aella | About what? |
| 05:47.38 | nymbia | Cairenn|afk: but that doesn't mean we won't bug you about it ;) |
| 05:47.40 | Cairenn|afk | that I won't tell |
| 05:47.42 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 05:47.44 | ScytheBlade1 | 2:47 - Here we go, they're going to announce something. |
| 05:47.45 | Xuerian | We know no reason, only pixel lust! |
| 05:48.16 | Aella | See, I don't really care about you telling or not, just exactly why you *could* tell if you so chose. =P |
| 05:48.37 | Aella | 2:49 - Mike Morhaime takes stage to make announcement. |
| 05:49.11 | Kaydeethree | heh. big thread's now over 700 posts |
| 05:49.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i was morhaime i would make a nonsensical speech and nonchalantly sit back down |
| 05:49.13 | KaoS` | warcraft 4, and starcraft 2? :P |
| 05:49.14 | KaoS` | lolol |
| 05:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | "Banana Banana, Banana banana banana banana. Banana!" |
| 05:49.39 | Thunder_Child | i am still waiting for diablo 3 |
| 05:49.46 | Neuro_Medivh | SC2 I'm sure, since there's a starcraft2.com website that redirects to Bliz |
| 05:49.57 | Aella | Which has been around since 99 and means nothing. =P |
| 05:50.00 | Kaydeethree | blizz has owned sc2 for how many years now? |
| 05:50.05 | Neuro_Medivh | Ahh, didn't know that |
| 05:50.13 | Mike-N-Go | Aella: The pings, arg! |
| 05:50.14 | Aella | Now You Knowâ„¢! |
| 05:50.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | or they just bought the domain to keep people from squatting off their IP |
| 05:50.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 05:50.17 | Thunder_Child | yea, but it didnt always redirect to blizz |
| 05:50.29 | Aella | It mirrored Blizz for a long time, but yeah, just started redirecting today. |
| 05:50.47 | Thunder_Child | started a few days ago actualy |
| 05:50.56 | Thunder_Child | 12th at least |
| 05:51.15 | Aella | I distinctly remember it still mirroring then, not redirecting. |
| 05:51.21 | Aella | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.25 | Thunder_Child | twas twas |
| 05:52.52 | nymbia | 2:51 - About to show a video now of previous Blizzard titles and WWI's from years past. Morhaime still rambling on with politically correct thanks to the gaming community. Here goes the video for past Blizzard stuff. Nothing exciting yet. |
| 05:53.04 | Thunder_Child | they are going to milk this for all they are worth |
| 05:53.09 | Neuro_Medivh | of course |
| 05:53.12 | Thunder_Child | dont blame them either |
| 05:53.15 | KaoS` | it will be last 10 seconds of the keynote |
| 05:53.15 | Cairenn|afk | of course |
| 05:53.19 | KaoS` | it will be announced |
| 05:53.19 | Neuro_Medivh | No |
| 05:53.22 | KaoS` | as bad as apple :P |
| 05:53.33 | Neuro_Medivh | it'll be announced, then they'll spend 20 minutes hyping the new game |
| 05:53.47 | Neuro_Medivh | and show screenshots and videos |
| 05:53.53 | KaoS` | starcraft 2, to be in stores by 2010. |
| 05:53.54 | KaoS` | kthx :P |
| 05:53.55 | Kaydeethree | I'm still waiting for the forum server to melt |
| 05:54.02 | Kaydeethree | I don't think I've ever seen general move this fast |
| 05:54.26 | Aella | They weren't kidding when they said they'd upgrade the forum software |
| 05:54.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna have a heart attack if they don't announce something, anything |
| 05:54.30 | Aella | 2:52 - Showing WC3 footage. When they showed Diablo footage the Deckard Cain "stay a while an listen" line got a cheer from the crowd. |
| 05:54.42 | Aella | I wonder who Cain's voice actor was. |
| 05:54.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | Ssschtay a while, n lissen |
| 05:55.34 | Xuerian | Auuuuuugh the only clip is the damn dancing girls! Don't want dancing girls! Want probes! SCVs! |
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| 05:56.21 | Thunder_Child | oh dear..."Want probes!" |
| 05:56.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | Michael Gough if imdb is to be trusted |
| 05:56.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | who voices carmine in gears of war, hahaha |
| 05:57.11 | Cairenn|afk | 2:56 - Video over - Morhaime about to make announcement. |
| 05:57.22 | Aella | That's the sixth time or so they've said that. |
| 05:57.30 | Aella | Morhaime takes stage to make announcement |
| 05:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 2:56 - Video over - Morhaime about to make announcement. |
| 05:57.37 | Kaydeethree | lmao... "Track the announcement here" now over 1k posts |
| 05:57.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gough |
| 05:57.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wiat |
| 05:58.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | not the right one :[ |
| 05:58.01 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk: your new topic is Xuerian: "Don't want dancing girls! Want probes! " |
| 05:58.16 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 05:58.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gough_%28voice_actor%29 |
| 05:58.22 | Aella | Agreed. |
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| 05:58.43 | nymbia | 'about to make announcement' my ass! |
| 05:58.44 | Aella | 2:57 - Showing another movie, presumably of game footage. |
| 05:58.52 | Thunder_Child | awww... Xuerian missed that little gem of mine |
| 05:58.56 | Xuerian | >., |
| 05:58.57 | Xuerian | >.<* |
| 05:59.14 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | "Don't want dancing girls! Want probes! " - Xuerian |
| 05:59.24 | Thunder_Child | there we go... |
| 05:59.27 | nymbia | nice |
| 05:59.30 | Thunder_Child | ty Cairenn|afk |
| 05:59.30 | Xuerian | XD |
| 05:59.35 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
| 06:00.08 | Cairenn|afk | nothing quite like text out of context to amuse |
| 06:00.14 | Xuerian | OGN isn't handling new signups :( |
| 06:00.15 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 06:00.23 | Aella | Except watching WoW General right about now. |
| 06:00.56 | Kaydeethree | I gotta say, the techs did a good job. that thread's speeding along at an insane clip |
| 06:01.06 | Aella | S'true. |
| 06:01.07 | Thunder_Child | is garadar in nag alliance friendly? |
| 06:01.16 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 06:01.21 | Thunder_Child | boo...thanks |
| 06:01.38 | Kaydeethree | and watch out if you're on the road in that general area. the mounted guards are faster than epic land mounts |
| 06:01.41 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, they're REAL friendly |
| 06:01.47 | Neuro_Medivh | so friendly it HURTS |
| 06:01.53 | Thunder_Child | heh, still dont have my epic |
| 06:02.14 | KaoS` | omg, I am going to cry |
| 06:02.31 | nymbia | KaoS`: no sleep for you |
| 06:02.36 | KaoS` | but but but |
| 06:02.38 | KaoS` | :( |
| 06:02.55 | KaoS` | got work at 9am |
| 06:03.03 | Kaydeethree | it's been 5 minutes, ign guy |
| 06:03.05 | Aella | 3:00 - FMV sequence in a spaceship - looks Terran - zooming in on a metal door - door opening - reveals a guy with a cigar in chains - prisoner - door shuts behind him - there's so much bass the room is shaking - guy steps into some kind of metallic devicce - legs are strapped in - guy rising toward ceiling - Korean text on screen got people very excited - another part of the machine is dropping metal arms on him - machine whirring - applying armor to his |
| 06:03.13 | Aella | Woot. |
| 06:03.39 | KaoS` | W00Ts |
| 06:03.42 | Cairenn|afk | RTS |
| 06:03.42 | KaoS` | starcraft 2!! |
| 06:03.43 | Kaydeethree | StarCraft 2 officially announced. |
| 06:03.44 | Xuerian | Teh win. |
| 06:04.03 | ScytheBlade1 | YES |
| 06:04.19 | Aella | Must… see… cinematic. |
| 06:04.20 | Cairenn|afk | everyone can relax now |
| 06:04.24 | Aella | nevar |
| 06:04.25 | Thunder_Child | now we need vid |
| 06:04.26 | Xuerian | Cairenn|afk: Wrong |
| 06:04.30 | Kaydeethree | not til we see the cinematic |
| 06:04.34 | Xuerian | Need see SHINIES |
| 06:04.34 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 06:04.36 | Aella | Time to take screenshots of WoW general |
| 06:04.47 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, about 30 posts "IT'S STARCRAFT 2!" |
| 06:05.01 | Cairenn|afk | yes, but at least now you know for sure that it's SC2 and that it's RTS |
| 06:05.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starcraft_2 |
| 06:05.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | buwahhahaha |
| 06:05.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | already up |
| 06:05.23 | Aella | THREE PAGES of "SC2" posts |
| 06:05.32 | Xuerian | haha |
| 06:05.49 | Aella | Now 3 and a half. |
| 06:06.04 | Thunder_Child | heh, how many people are already thinking on how to get into the beta |
| 06:06.12 | Aella | Started thinking a while ago =P |
| 06:06.24 | Thunder_Child | cant think about something that didnt exist.... |
| 06:06.33 | Aella | Wanna bet? |
| 06:06.36 | Kaydeethree | "going to show actual gameplay" |
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| 06:07.08 | Thunder_Child | no, dont want to bet, but you know what i mean |
| 06:07.39 | Aella | Exactly 1 thread in the SC General forum. |
| 06:07.46 | Neuro_Medivh | And so the safe money wins again =) |
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| 06:10.12 | Aella | Okay, I'm heading to bed. All the details I'm now interested in won't come out for a good 45 minutes. |
| 06:10.28 | Aella | Enjoy. |
| 06:12.17 | Thunder_Child | bed for me as well, night all |
| 06:13.04 | Xuerian | Ditto. 'nighty. Will seek shiny tomorrow. |
| 06:13.26 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 06:13.44 | Xuerian | Night Cairenn|afk =D |
| 06:14.50 | Kaydeethree | lmfao. one of the tech support guys posted |
| 06:14.52 | Xuerian | ps, Terran reapers? Jetpacks? Colossus? Ripped straight from DoW >.> |
| 06:14.53 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104563181&pageNo=73&sid=1#1453 |
| 06:14.58 | Kaydeethree | "I like tacos." |
| 06:25.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | SC2 rips off DoW which ripped off Starcraft which ripped off Warhammer 40k |
| 06:25.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | my brain hurts |
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| 06:37.49 | KaoS` | what is the deal with NOT updating blizzard.com |
| 06:38.11 | Kaydeethree | I know |
| 06:38.20 | KaoS` | I want to see the logo and some pics! |
| 06:38.29 | Kaydeethree | http://tvpot.daum.net/theme/ThemeView.do?themeid=122&lu=m_mono_1 |
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| 07:00.08 | Kaydeethree | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXoekeDIW8 if anyone's in here and not the other wow-related channels |
| 07:21.34 | Neuro_Medivh | What is DoW if I may ask |
| 07:22.06 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, nm, Dawn of War |
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| 07:55.18 | Bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: much like there's only half a dozen original pop tunes, story plot lines, etc., there's only really about half a dozen original games :P |
| 07:55.53 | Bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: when it comes down to it, WoW is still pretty much jsut a massive rogue/nethack... erm, hack |
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| 08:34.49 | krka | just get lua yourself? |
| 08:35.05 | Shirik | why would that be equal... |
| 08:35.25 | Shirik | er |
| 08:35.25 | krka | due to encoding of doubles? |
| 08:35.28 | Shirik | yeah |
| 08:35.32 | Shirik | And lua says it's true >.> |
| 08:35.34 | foxlit | Because storage matters |
| 08:35.55 | foxlit | Asking cide was easier than booting wow; did that in the next 5 minutes anyway |
| 08:36.13 | krka | not saying booting wow |
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| 08:36.20 | krka | i am saying starting the lua interpreter |
| 08:36.22 | Shirik | I just put it through my interpreter |
| 08:36.29 | Iriel | Bleeter: WoW would need random dungeon generation for a real comparison there |
| 08:36.31 | foxlit | Not installed :P |
| 08:36.35 | Nimble_Rabit | . |
| 08:36.38 | Iriel | Bleeter: And we'd need to have @ signs as avatars |
| 08:37.21 | krka | that would rock |
| 08:37.23 | Shirik | oh yey |
| 08:37.28 | Shirik | I found an error in Prat >.> |
| 08:39.06 | nevcairiel | so starcraft 2 is not going to be any MMO-thingy? or did i miss that part somewhere ? :) |
| 08:39.30 | Iriel | Not an MMO |
| 08:40.54 | krka | i wonder if it will use lua |
| 08:41.00 | krka | for map editing and such |
| 08:41.02 | Shirik | those screenshots are pretty badass |
| 08:41.08 | krka | link? |
| 08:41.24 | Shirik | only seen it on guild forums I'll give it to you |
| 08:41.26 | krka | is it using the warcraft 3-engine? |
| 08:41.36 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:41.41 | Iriel | starcraft2.com is up now |
| 08:41.56 | Shirik | http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12137&pid=201357&st=0&#entry201357 |
| 08:41.57 | nevcairiel | Vibrant new 3D-graphics engine with support for dazzling visual effects and massive unit and army sizes |
| 08:41.58 | Shirik | very bottom |
| 08:42.01 | nevcairiel | it says "new engine" |
| 08:47.36 | foxlit | Can LUA use a higher precision for integers? |
| 08:48.03 | foxlit | (s/LUA/Lua/ for every occurance of LUA) |
| 08:48.19 | krka | foxlit: sure you can compile it to use any definition of number you want |
| 08:49.09 | foxlit | And if I wanted to get higher precision inside WoW? |
| 08:49.43 | Shirik | divide and conquer :D |
| 08:50.17 | krka | you could use strings for integers |
| 08:50.23 | krka | how high precision do you need? |
| 08:51.11 | foxlit | Around 160 bit, for starters. |
| 08:51.29 | krka | may i ask why? |
| 08:52.07 | foxlit | Want to implement DSA. |
| 08:52.50 | Shirik | still trying to find a secure way of distributing code in game? |
| 08:52.51 | krka | ... |
| 08:52.54 | krka | why? :( |
| 08:53.22 | krka | i'd use tuples of integers |
| 08:53.27 | krka | or strings |
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| 10:10.06 | AnduinLothar | heh, patch notes: "In the Black Morass, gnomes are now able to run through the water like other races." |
| 10:10.15 | Shirik | rofl |
| 10:11.42 | Gnarfoz | took em long enough. |
| 10:11.48 | nymbia | that crap was annoying |
| 10:11.56 | Gnarfoz | just did BM 3 times yesterday |
| 10:12.07 | Gnarfoz | had to mount up all the time because otherwise I'd have to swim >_< |
| 10:12.14 | Shirik | imo |
| 10:12.16 | Shirik | you deserve it |
| 10:12.18 | Shirik | for picking a gnome |
| 10:12.38 | Gnarfoz | didn't pick |
| 10:15.42 | nevcairiel | bought? |
| 10:16.10 | nymbia | escape artist ftw. |
| 10:17.10 | Gnarfoz | didn't buy, no |
| 10:17.25 | Shirik | he was a fool and hit the randomize button |
| 10:17.28 | Gnarfoz | work colleague had the grandiose idea of creating an all-gnome gank squad |
| 10:17.33 | Shirik | oh |
| 10:17.34 | Shirik | rofl |
| 10:17.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:17.45 | Gnarfoz | hell no ^^ 10 lookalike female pink haired gnomes |
| 10:18.05 | Shirik | wow |
| 10:18.07 | Gnarfoz | at that time my main was still my warlock on another server, but the rogue kind of stuck ;> |
| 10:18.38 | nevcairiel | a friend of mine has a pink hair female gnome too .. but she is a girl .. so guess thats acceptable :P |
| 10:18.45 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 10:19.32 | AnduinLothar | yay ReURL revived |
| 10:19.33 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5181-ReURL.html |
| 10:19.39 | Gnarfoz | yay! |
| 10:19.42 | Gnarfoz | what does it do? ;D |
| 10:19.52 | AnduinLothar | click it |
| 10:19.59 | Shirik | does it work better than prat's? |
| 10:20.06 | AnduinLothar | never tried prat |
| 10:20.08 | Gnarfoz | oh, prat does that for me already ^^ |
| 10:20.18 | Gnarfoz | simple small one-function only addons ftw, though |
| 10:20.32 | AnduinLothar | ya prat scared me with all it's features |
| 10:20.59 | Gnarfoz | it's heavy, yeah, but it is awesome nonetheless |
| 10:21.31 | nevcairiel | i removed prat because of its bloatedness |
| 10:21.40 | Shirik | yes, prat's been pissing me off lately |
| 10:21.49 | Shirik | I'm very close to removing it |
| 10:21.58 | Shirik | I just like the name coloring |
| 10:21.59 | Shirik | tbh that'sa ll I want |
| 10:22.10 | Gnarfoz | disable the other stuff, then ;) |
| 10:22.21 | Shirik | well, yeah, that's what I've done :P |
| 10:22.28 | nevcairiel | try SimpleChatMods |
| 10:22.41 | nevcairiel | you need to know some lua to configure it, but its plain and simple :p |
| 10:22.50 | AnduinLothar | i think i've writen simple mods that do half the stuff prat does, only better |
| 10:24.13 | Shirik | damn... |
| 10:24.17 | Vangual | history repeats itself |
| 10:24.23 | Shirik | so I've never actually done the horde quests in outlands until now |
| 10:24.27 | AnduinLothar | ChatEdit, ReURL, ChatScroll, TellTarget, ChatTimeStamps, ChatBar (with sticky & reordering dating from ages ago), and satelitte can show addon msgs |
| 10:24.30 | Shirik | blood elves are like a soap opera >< |
| 10:24.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:24.56 | Shirik | and the reward at the end of the chain is the wedding ring of her ex-husband |
| 10:24.56 | Shirik | lol |
| 10:25.04 | AnduinLothar | it's like an ace combination of all ym chat addons |
| 10:26.02 | AnduinLothar | except it's so bloated that it's incompatible with other chat mods |
| 10:26.22 | Shirik | ypu |
| 10:26.27 | Shirik | prat destroys any other chat mod |
| 10:26.31 | Shirik | AND it has bugs :( |
| 10:26.51 | nevcairiel | thats why i removed it ages ago |
| 10:27.07 | nevcairiel | i liked it in the beginning, when it still was simple, no funky modules, just the basic chat stuff |
| 10:27.09 | nevcairiel | and now.. |
| 10:27.15 | nevcairiel | it can even feed your cat |
| 10:27.20 | Shirik | rofl |
| 10:28.41 | Vangual | well that's one good reason not to remove it then, dead cats don't look so well around the house |
| 10:35.32 | Shirik | sure they do |
| 10:35.37 | Shirik | I don't want to see a live cat |
| 10:36.18 | Vangual | :( |
| 10:36.50 | Shirik | cats ftl! |
| 10:38.04 | Shirik | https://secure.lhj.com/bhg/images/08/l_PetsDevilCat.jpg |
| 10:39.08 | Vangual | allmighty |
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| 10:47.06 | Shirik | "The negative effect of the orc racial ability Blood Fury no longer stacks with other effects that reduce healing (Mortal Strike, Wounding Poison, etc.) " |
| 10:47.07 | Shirik | thank god |
| 10:47.11 | Shirik | that was pissing me off a few days ago |
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| 11:03.46 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104523851&sid=1 |
| 11:03.49 | Shirik | that... is a lot of addons |
| 11:05.02 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:05.08 | nevcairiel | i have like 120 addons |
| 11:05.14 | Gnarfoz | < ~160 |
| 11:05.25 | nevcairiel | but i use the ace standalone libraries |
| 11:05.30 | nevcairiel | stuff like bigwigs all LoD |
| 11:06.19 | Gnarfoz | ace standalone yes, LoD stuff not unpacked, tho ^^ |
| 11:06.33 | Gnarfoz | but of course not all addons enabled for all characters, either |
| 11:06.46 | nevcairiel | i only play one character :o |
| 11:07.04 | Gnarfoz | I only play one religiously at a time :> |
| 11:07.08 | Gnarfoz | 'main char' ;P |
| 11:07.40 | nevcairiel | ive played my druid since release |
| 11:07.45 | nevcairiel | and cant get away from her |
| 11:08.15 | Gnarfoz | good for you :> |
| 11:08.34 | nevcairiel | wonder how many people actually didnt switch "main chars" in that time |
| 11:08.44 | Gnarfoz | interesting question ^^ |
| 11:11.44 | Vangual | o/ |
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| 11:13.35 | Gnarfoz | oups |
| 11:13.41 | Shirik | ? |
| 11:13.52 | Gnarfoz | nice, instance server not crowded yet 17ms latency ^^ |
| 11:14.02 | Gnarfoz | accidentally closed this channel ;-) |
| 11:15.52 | Kaso | I have eight co-ordinates forming two squares which may or may not be over-lapping. i need to work of the co-ordinates of a big square the wraps around both of them. |
| 11:16.05 | Kaso | and i am at a complete blank as to how >.< |
| 11:16.26 | foxlit | (x1, y1) (x2,y2) and (x3,y3) (x4,y4) ? |
| 11:16.30 | Shirik | you need to find the one with the min x,y and the max x,y |
| 11:16.38 | Shirik | and |
| 11:16.40 | Shirik | in saying that |
| 11:16.43 | Shirik | I just got owned by a fel reaver |
| 11:16.45 | Shirik | gg |
| 11:16.49 | Kaso | sorry >.< |
| 11:16.51 | Kaso | haha |
| 11:17.07 | Kaso | ok, i think i know what to do now. |
| 11:17.12 | foxlit | left, right = min(x1,x2,x3,x4), max(x1,x2,x3,x4) |
| 11:17.15 | foxlit | same for y :) |
| 11:18.34 | Kaso | thanks |
| 11:18.51 | Kaso | i prob should have been able to work that out myself but my brain is fried :> |
| 11:20.20 | Shirik | do priests get anything cool at 62? |
| 11:20.26 | Shirik | or am I going to have to wait until 68 to have fun :( |
| 11:20.31 | Kaso | shadow word death iirc? |
| 11:20.34 | foxlit | swd? |
| 11:20.35 | Shirik | ooh |
| 11:20.35 | Kaso | which is awesome |
| 11:20.49 | Shirik | I wonder how many times I'm gonna kill myself with that |
| 11:46.17 | foxlit | What's a decent error message addon? |
| 11:46.41 | Shirik | seterrorhandler(function() end); |
| 11:47.01 | foxlit | But I'm le lazy! |
| 11:47.11 | Shirik | To correctly answer your question, I use my own and I like it, but if you're looking for something standalone, many recommend swatter |
| 11:48.22 | foxlit | I typically rely on my library catching most interesting things, but that doesn't work when you're manually calling the functions |
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| 12:19.17 | Shirik | wtf |
| 12:19.29 | Shirik | there's this guy I'm grouping with, his health is stuck at 9% no matter how much I heal him (he says he's full) |
| 12:19.36 | Shirik | and he can't see me, though I'm right next to him |
| 12:19.39 | Shirik | so we both relog, same problem |
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| 12:26.44 | Xuerian | foxlit: ErrorMonster |
| 12:32.04 | leethal | so, I am making some tables along the way, to prepare some data. Is setting them to nil after they're returned and all a good idea, for garbage collection? |
| 12:32.39 | leethal | all the tables is local, though, does that make them garbage automatically? |
| 12:36.17 | wobin | leethal: If there is a reference in the table that's being used, or there, it won't get gc'd |
| 12:36.35 | wobin | So if you're going to setup for gc, you have to nil it out |
| 12:37.37 | krka | Shirik: sounds like a crappy addon then... or do you get that problem running purely with standard ui |
| 12:37.47 | Shirik | standard ui |
| 12:38.00 | Shirik | I tried /dump UnitHealth()/UnitHealthMax() too |
| 12:38.05 | wobin | synching error? |
| 12:38.05 | Shirik | and it shows 9% .. |
| 12:38.34 | Shirik | after relogging a second time |
| 12:38.35 | Shirik | it's fixed |
| 12:38.36 | Shirik | so w/e |
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| 12:43.12 | leethal | wobin: I see, thanks |
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| 12:47.55 | Bleeter | Iriel: 'scuse the language, but random dungeon generation would be *freaken awesome* |
| 12:48.00 | Bleeter | damn, he left |
| 12:48.20 | Shirik | haha |
| 12:49.57 | Bleeter | Shirik: how ya doin'? school givin' you the shits still? :P |
| 12:50.11 | Shirik | school always giving me "the shits" |
| 12:50.23 | Shirik | in summer classes now but I'm happy |
| 12:50.44 | Bleeter | that's the main' thing, keep the smile on yer dial as much as poss :) |
| 12:50.45 | Shirik | just got a callback from binney & smith, they want me for the summer :) |
| 12:50.48 | Shirik | so I'm happy |
| 12:51.10 | Shirik | summer internship in embedded systems |
| 12:51.50 | Bleeter | nice |
| 12:55.09 | Bleeter | yet another decent guild name, <Honk if you're Hordey> |
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| 12:58.58 | wobin | hehe |
| 12:59.22 | sysrage | lol crayons and silly putty? |
| 12:59.27 | sysrage | sounds fun :) |
| 12:59.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 12:59.39 | Shirik | no, it's actually a new department of theirs |
| 12:59.58 | Shirik | I was actually surprised to hear that they have any dealings with embedded systems there |
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| 13:01.13 | sysrage | i just got an offer to work with compucom.. doesn't that sound like a company that should be in Office Space? |
| 13:01.21 | Shirik | lol |
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| 13:06.39 | Legorol | morning! |
| 13:06.43 | Legorol | omg, I was wrong! |
| 13:06.52 | Legorol | so, so, I am so excited, what are the reactions? |
| 13:07.04 | Legorol | I have to scroll up and read.. |
| 13:07.06 | Shirik | mostly what I expected |
| 13:07.27 | Shirik | the screenshots look insane |
| 13:11.44 | leethal | how do I do this - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php/XML_User_Interface#Example_4 - in LUA? |
| 13:11.53 | leethal | the <ColorWheelTexture></ColorWheelTexture> part is confusing |
| 13:12.40 | Legorol | What page was Mr_Rabies reding to get those "live feeds"? |
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| 13:16.02 | Kaso | leethal, wouldnt it be Frame:CreateTexture([name,][,"inheritsFrom"]) where inheritsFrom is "ColorWheelTexture" |
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| 13:20.48 | leethal | ah |
| 13:21.15 | leethal | thanks Kaso |
| 13:21.22 | Kaso | np |
| 13:21.31 | leethal | hmm |
| 13:21.41 | leethal | "couldn't find inherited node ColorWheelTexture" |
| 13:21.48 | Kaso | perhaps not >.< |
| 13:22.00 | leethal | it it was, it'd be an inherit="" in the <ColorWheel>, methinks |
| 13:22.27 | foxlit | You probably get to inherit the entire wheel structure rather than only the texture. |
| 13:23.25 | leethal | but what does that mean in the XML? That "<ColorWheelTexture></ColorWheelTexture>" stuff? |
| 13:23.37 | leethal | bad code design? =/ |
| 13:23.54 | Shirik | it means you should stop using XML >:D |
| 13:24.04 | leethal | yeah, that's why I'm doing it in lua |
| 13:24.08 | leethal | xml is ugleh |
| 13:24.17 | Shirik | then again |
| 13:24.25 | Shirik | you're the guy who uses ruby *eye roll* |
| 13:24.41 | Shirik | ;) |
| 13:24.59 | Shirik | hehe |
| 13:25.07 | Shirik | I want that hax :( |
| 13:25.09 | Legorol | hm, lot less reactions in here about SC2 than i expected :D |
| 13:25.17 | leethal | I hex edit reality for infinite grenades |
| 13:25.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 13:26.08 | leethal | Legorol: it's off topic, you noob r-tard. WOWi-lounge. WoW. |
| 13:26.45 | sysrage | ARRRRRRR-tard |
| 13:27.20 | foxlit | Besides, btween SC2 and C&C3, I'm not sure which I'd pick |
| 13:27.40 | Shirik | yeah |
| 13:27.45 | Shirik | join #sc2-lounge for that discussion |
| 13:27.45 | Shirik | ffs |
| 13:27.47 | Shirik | gah |
| 13:31.18 | leethal | k? |
| 13:31.42 | Shirik | k? |
| 13:31.53 | Shirik | p.s. never played C&C |
| 13:31.55 | Shirik | but I loooooved SC |
| 13:32.03 | Shirik | I'd still play sc original just... dont' have it installed atm |
| 13:32.07 | Shirik | and nobody to play with :( |
| 13:32.29 | Legorol | lol Shirik, you got me there, i actually tried to join |
| 13:32.38 | Shirik | wtf |
| 13:32.39 | Shirik | just now?! |
| 13:33.02 | Shirik | I was in there for a good 5 minutes waiting for you to come in so I could kick you |
| 13:33.06 | Shirik | I just left :( |
| 13:33.17 | Legorol | lol |
| 13:51.52 | Xuerian | leethal: You're fighting a lost battle. |
| 13:52.10 | Xuerian | Shirik: You obviously weren't in here last night. |
| 13:52.29 | leethal | Xuerian: huh? |
| 13:52.30 | Xuerian | both of you: If there's WoW discussion to be had, I can see complaining about SC. But if nothing else is going down, it's a moot point |
| 13:52.50 | Xuerian | [09:25] leethal: Legorol: it's off topic, you noob r-tard. WOWi-lounge. WoW. |
| 13:53.33 | leethal | oh, yeah |
| 13:53.49 | Shirik | um |
| 13:53.52 | Shirik | it was kinda a joke |
| 13:53.55 | Legorol | this is WoWi-lounge, it's for WoW modding discussion |
| 13:53.58 | Legorol | In between, everything else :o) |
| 13:54.25 | Legorol | hey, I can understand you not wanting to talk about SC, but I hope at least you are not going to ban the pie discussions? |
| 13:54.46 | Legorol | admittedly that's closer to WoW than another Blizzard game is |
| 13:57.46 | leethal | if you're sarcastic, you're very good/bad at it |
| 13:57.54 | Shirik | Demoniac Scryer gains Magic Succer Device (Success Visual Timer) |
| 13:57.55 | Shirik | wtf |
| 13:57.58 | leethal | good/bad depending on wether or not you like sarcasm that's impossible to detect |
| 13:58.26 | Shirik | Sucker* |
| 13:58.55 | Legorol | lol leethal |
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| 14:03.58 | Xuerian | Oh yeah. Kinda tabbed out. Was joking too :P |
| 14:04.03 | JoshBorke | WOOHOO! SC2! |
| 14:04.19 | Shirik | please forgive JoshBorke he's usually two years behind |
| 14:04.23 | Shirik | :D |
| 14:05.12 | JoshBorke | i do this thing called sleep :P |
| 14:05.48 | Xuerian | it's obviously bad for you! =O |
| 14:06.57 | krka | you know, the SC2 screenshots give the same feeling as the SC alpha screenshots did |
| 14:07.13 | krka | so i suspect SC2 will look way way better when it's released |
| 14:07.32 | Shirik | I think it already looks hawt |
| 14:07.55 | Tem | I hope it doesn't look too much better |
| 14:08.04 | Tem | I want my machine to be able to run it |
| 14:08.12 | Xuerian | Running it is only secondary |
| 14:08.18 | Xuerian | Having it is the main thing |
| 14:08.26 | Tem | course, by then I'll probably have gotten a new machine... |
| 14:08.35 | Xuerian | You and I both :P |
| 14:08.40 | Tem | we're a good 2 years off from release, aren't we? |
| 14:08.46 | krka | i am seriously surprised they kept so much of the sc stuff in there |
| 14:08.53 | krka | command center, scv, marines, et.c. |
| 14:09.07 | Tem | I hope they steal as much as possible from SupCom |
| 14:09.14 | krka | then again, war3 had a few superficial similarities to war2 |
| 14:10.02 | Tem | I hope it's still like SC1 in that you don't need to do much micromanaging |
| 14:10.11 | Tem | that's what made me so bad at war3 |
| 14:10.46 | krka | sc1 didn't need micromanaging? O_o |
| 14:10.54 | Tem | I never did... |
| 14:10.55 | krka | we must have played totally different games |
| 14:10.59 | Tem | we did |
| 14:11.02 | krka | seen videos from top koreans? |
| 14:11.08 | Tem | nope |
| 14:11.13 | krka | they micromanage everything |
| 14:11.15 | Tem | I never said I was good at SC1 |
| 14:11.25 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 14:11.29 | Tem | but I did decently well without micromanaging |
| 14:11.36 | Tem | in war3, I lost everytime |
| 14:11.46 | krka | i think war3 required less micro actually |
| 14:11.51 | Tem | hardly |
| 14:11.53 | krka | the units were quite a bit smarter |
| 14:11.57 | Tem | every unit has a spell |
| 14:11.59 | krka | and you really only had to keep track of the heroes |
| 14:12.12 | Tem | and you only do well when you keep track of all the units and use their spells effectively |
| 14:12.36 | krka | right, but you can for instance tab through your selection by type |
| 14:12.51 | krka | and if you're currently at priests, and click some spell, only one of the priests will actually cast it |
| 14:13.01 | krka | way way more simplified from SC |
| 14:13.05 | Tem | aye |
| 14:13.15 | krka | try playing SC using lots of high templars |
| 14:13.29 | krka | or corsairs using web |
| 14:13.31 | Fin | ohhh, so that's what it was then |
| 14:13.32 | krka | that was always a pain |
| 14:13.34 | Tem | but my style of SC was selecting all 150 of my hydralisks and clicking on the minimap |
| 14:13.40 | krka | finding the corsair with enough mana to web |
| 14:13.42 | krka | :( |
| 14:14.26 | Tem | anyway, I have to run to class |
| 14:14.30 | Xuerian | Heeh. Moving? Units? |
| 14:14.38 | Xuerian | Protoss. >.> |
| 14:14.56 | Xuerian | Arbiter and a pair of carriers/corsairs over a pylon field with a few larva |
| 14:16.45 | Xuerian | For the record, hero units ruin games =( |
| 14:18.30 | Shirik | why do you say that? |
| 14:18.43 | krka | hm, i wonder if sc2 will run nicely in wine |
| 14:18.47 | krka | both war3 and wow did |
| 14:18.50 | krka | (do) |
| 14:18.55 | Shirik | blizzard hasn't really had a problem with that |
| 14:18.59 | Shirik | and I think they want to make it work ok |
| 14:19.06 | Shirik | even though they say it's "not supported" |
| 14:19.06 | Xuerian | 'Cause, the game becomes a hero war instead of a unit war |
| 14:19.52 | Xuerian | In E2150 there were no hero units, but normal units could gain almost 70% hp/damage/ammo/shields with battle experience |
| 14:21.15 | Xuerian | I'm even ok with commander units and "units" of units, see dawn of war. Just not heroes :P |
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| 14:24.19 | Kjellviz | anybody here REALLY good with macros ? |
| 14:24.30 | Kjellviz | need help with some /focus macro for lock |
| 14:24.38 | Shirik | do I have to be really good? |
| 14:24.48 | Kjellviz | well above average id say |
| 14:24.52 | Shirik | I refuse to say I'm really good with anything |
| 14:24.53 | Kjellviz | ^^ |
| 14:24.54 | Shirik | but what do you need |
| 14:24.59 | Kjellviz | hehe |
| 14:25.12 | Kjellviz | well this is what id want it to do; |
| 14:25.20 | Kjellviz | set my current target as /focus |
| 14:25.28 | Kjellviz | and if i have succubus as pet |
| 14:25.31 | Kjellviz | cast seduce |
| 14:25.35 | Kjellviz | if not |
| 14:25.38 | Kjellviz | cast banish |
| 14:25.44 | Shirik | on the focus? |
| 14:25.53 | Kjellviz | then use focus as target for next banish/seduce |
| 14:25.54 | Shirik | well I guess since it's your current target |
| 14:25.56 | Kjellviz | yes |
| 14:26.12 | Shirik | but.... I don't believe there's a way to check if you have a succubus out |
| 14:26.13 | Kjellviz | initially its my current target yes |
| 14:26.17 | Shirik | I know for hunters it's [pet:cat] |
| 14:26.24 | Shirik | but I don't think warlocks have an equivalent |
| 14:26.57 | Shirik | you can check to see if you have /any/ pet out |
| 14:26.59 | Kjellviz | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.08 | Shirik | so pet:succubus will actually work |
| 14:27.08 | Shirik | ok |
| 14:27.10 | Shirik | good |
| 14:27.10 | Kjellviz | so yes we do =) |
| 14:27.37 | Kjellviz | and, if i have no target, i want it to clear my focus |
| 14:27.40 | Kjellviz | >< |
| 14:28.04 | Kjellviz | heck, can u make one so i just have to click one button and do everything a lock can do ? =P |
| 14:28.06 | Kjellviz | ^^ |
| 14:28.14 | Kjellviz | j/k |
| 14:28.33 | Shirik | then it's /focus [modifier:alt] /clearfocus [noexists,modifier:alt] /cast [target=focus,exists,pet:succubus] Seduction; [target=focus,exists] Banish |
| 14:28.43 | Shirik | hold alt to set/clear the focus |
| 14:28.45 | Kjellviz | btw |
| 14:28.50 | Shirik | there's no way to have it do that only on the first time you use it |
| 14:28.51 | Kjellviz | i cant use modifiers |
| 14:28.52 | Kjellviz | >< |
| 14:28.59 | Shirik | do you use a mouse or keyboard? |
| 14:29.10 | Kjellviz | ohhh for a clear focus i could use it |
| 14:29.12 | Shirik | there is no way to have it decide whether or not to set/clear focus |
| 14:29.13 | Kjellviz | both |
| 14:29.26 | Shirik | like only on the first time |
| 14:29.28 | Kjellviz | but i have shift alt and ctrl bound to all my keys |
| 14:29.55 | Shirik | ok, but for clearfocus you're ok with a modifier? |
| 14:30.06 | Kjellviz | could prob do yes |
| 14:30.09 | Shirik | try /focus [target=focus,noexists] /clearfocus [noexists,modifier:alt] /cast [target=focus,exists,pet:succubus] Seduction; [target=focus,exists] Banish |
| 14:30.25 | Kjellviz | but what ur saying is that the macro cannot clear focus if i dont have a current target ? |
| 14:30.40 | Shirik | hrm |
| 14:30.45 | Shirik | well what if you have no target but you want to banish your focus? |
| 14:30.57 | Shirik | I guess /focus [target=focus,noexists] /clearfocus [noexists] /cast [target=focus,exists,pet:succubus] Seduction; [target=focus,exists] Banish |
| 14:31.04 | Kjellviz | true |
| 14:31.11 | Shirik | but keep in mind that will only set your focus if you don't already have a focus |
| 14:31.17 | Shirik | it won't change your focus until it's cleared |
| 14:31.20 | Kjellviz | i wud wanna be able to banish my focus w/o having a target |
| 14:31.50 | Kjellviz | aha ok thats good to know |
| 14:32.17 | Kjellviz | and i guess u can just keep filling that with variables ? |
| 14:32.33 | Shirik | sure |
| 14:32.41 | Kjellviz | like pet:felhunter] Devour Magic |
| 14:32.48 | Kjellviz | and attack for felguard |
| 14:32.49 | Shirik | yup |
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| 14:33.04 | Kjellviz | great |
| 14:33.19 | Kjellviz | =D |
| 14:33.54 | Kjellviz | thanks a lot |
| 14:33.59 | Kjellviz | ill try to add those myself |
| 14:34.05 | Shirik | no problem |
| 14:34.09 | Kjellviz | so i get an idea of how it works =) |
| 14:35.27 | Kjellviz | or uhm no i guess that wont work |
| 14:35.30 | Industrial | wah, anyone seen the SC2 trailer? |
| 14:35.35 | Industrial | Hell, it's about time! |
| 14:35.36 | Industrial | way cool |
| 14:35.37 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:35.42 | Kjellviz | cos then it'll cast banish only if i dont have a pet |
| 14:35.53 | Shirik | no it won't |
| 14:36.15 | Shirik | [pet:succubus] is only true for succubi |
| 14:36.21 | Shirik | not all pets |
| 14:36.37 | Kjellviz | yes but if i fill it with a function for every pey |
| 14:36.39 | Kjellviz | pet* |
| 14:36.48 | Shirik | oh |
| 14:36.48 | Kjellviz | like devour magic for felhunter |
| 14:36.51 | Shirik | well you could make another /cast |
| 14:36.53 | Kjellviz | it will never banish |
| 14:37.23 | Kjellviz | think i can use a modifier for that actually |
| 14:37.32 | Kjellviz | freeing up lots of buttons on one macro ^^ |
| 14:37.39 | Shirik | not in the same /cast line |
| 14:37.44 | Shirik | because it will never be reached |
| 14:37.54 | Shirik | once one statement holds true the rest will never be executed, even if it's true |
| 14:38.26 | Kjellviz | no but the modifier for clear focus does not need to be on /cast line does it ? |
| 14:38.32 | Shirik | nono |
| 14:38.34 | Shirik | that's three lines |
| 14:38.46 | Shirik | sorry, didn't mean to confuse you |
| 14:38.57 | Kjellviz | hehe see that now |
| 14:38.58 | Kjellviz | but |
| 14:39.11 | Kjellviz | what u say is that i cant have 2 modifiers ? |
| 14:39.21 | Kjellviz | one for Alt = clear current focus |
| 14:39.22 | Shirik | well, what were you thinking about doing? |
| 14:39.27 | Kjellviz | shift = cast banish |
| 14:39.44 | Kjellviz | nomodifier cast spesific pet action after what pet is summoned |
| 14:41.44 | Kjellviz | that would actually be best |
| 14:42.06 | Kjellviz | that way i can have both a banish and a seduce |
| 14:42.14 | Kjellviz | but i can have focus on only one =\ |
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| 14:43.39 | JoshBorke | you could try using pettarget |
| 14:44.10 | Kjellviz | hmmm |
| 14:44.23 | Kjellviz | sounds interesting |
| 14:44.24 | Kjellviz | but |
| 14:44.45 | Kjellviz | having focus gives me great control of when CC drops |
| 14:45.15 | Kjellviz | and i dont find myself using banish that often anymore |
| 14:45.20 | JoshBorke | sure does |
| 14:45.23 | Kjellviz | (only lvl 62 atm) |
| 14:45.31 | Kjellviz | but |
| 14:45.50 | Kjellviz | dunno how many modifiers u can have in 1 macro |
| 14:46.14 | Kjellviz | could have 1 ctrl mod to force focus on current target ? |
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| 14:51.35 | Kjellviz | Shirik: gave up on me ^^ |
| 14:51.44 | Kjellviz | im too demanding =P |
| 14:52.02 | JoshBorke | i have no idea |
| 14:52.13 | JoshBorke | have you read the macro post on the forums? |
| 14:52.42 | JoshBorke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1 |
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| 14:58.55 | Shirik | Kjellviz: Sorry, on phone with boss |
| 14:58.58 | Shirik | can't right now :( |
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| 15:04.09 | Shirik | morning aella |
| 15:04.14 | Aella | G'morning. |
| 15:11.42 | Kjellviz | hehe np ^^ |
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| 15:47.54 | Kaso | How do you convert a clockwise angle into a count-clockwise angle ^_- |
| 15:48.50 | Kaso | duh, ignore me /ds |
| 15:48.55 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.02 | krka | angles can be clockwise? |
| 15:49.20 | Kaso | Sure, bearings when you're navigating are clockwise |
| 15:49.41 | Shirik | there can be negative angles... |
| 15:50.00 | Shirik | and yeah bearings are backwards >.> |
| 15:52.46 | Kaso | im trying to convert a bearing to a polar co-ordiante, but had a bit of a idiot moment when i couldnt work out howto |
| 15:53.10 | Kaso | though i find alot almost as soon as i post a question to IRC i work out the answer |
| 16:09.26 | Legorol | Kaso that's perfectly normal, often the phrasing of the qeustion itself makes you think about the problem in a different/correct way, and helps |
| 16:09.36 | Legorol | That's why they say there is no stupid question, only stupid answers |
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| 16:15.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | convert a bearing to a polar co-ordiante |
| 16:15.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | convert the polar bears to what now |
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| 16:21.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i'm convinced the gold spammers are using third party means to gather names |
| 16:21.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i logged in and instantly got spammed |
| 16:21.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | twice |
| 16:21.39 | __Aella | Friends-list is *possible*, I guess. |
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| 16:22.03 | Kaydeethree | ya, I've noticed that a lot lately |
| 16:22.06 | Kaydeethree | really, really odd |
| 16:22.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, it gets through before spamsentry loads |
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| 16:26.23 | Kirkburn | Bring on 2.1! |
| 16:39.36 | foxlit | Why not just use the armory? |
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| 16:59.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the armory requires a search afaik :O |
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| 17:19.33 | Thunder_Chil1 | you can browse |
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| 17:37.53 | DT_ | There's no e constant in math.*? |
| 17:37.58 | DT_ | >.> |
| 17:38.59 | haste | math.exp(1) ? |
| 17:39.17 | Shirik | are you sure about that? |
| 17:39.25 | DT_ | Oh |
| 17:39.29 | DT_ | Thanks |
| 17:40.46 | Shirik | yeah, only math.huge and math.pi exist |
| 17:40.47 | Shirik | boo |
| 17:40.52 | Shirik | but yeah, math.exp(1) |
| 17:45.39 | foxlit | Boo, BigNum chokes while trying to do 67731ff5 8137eb39 713ae30e ba33c54c 8c1d5418 e081428c a815e4e7 33d64f6d ^ 010001 |
| 17:46.13 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:46.17 | Shirik | is that seriously necessary? |
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| 17:47.03 | foxlit | That mod d58e865a5b6f24e988ac68a2bf981ea6c2fe69efb2cc3277ed5c71ea7668363fa12617536b24afe242620e81e463b868fdbdb618388c143b8e78634b6243b16168b0eed0f86dadd51b6f8e63c509a991378d2daeb0f5200e8f6d13435060f592367b402f1f591227deafec503476244a2e05ba3cc531e253af2531045fbc1d9eca5b53fdd485adb380131dd89a4e6955736cd0acf4b515cc99a1f4e5bd41a9e4e38f4db211f2ac5a8f1ed49977168b19e5efbdbb140fb581f8bda61c4f25181278c547e7f4e4627cfa725b83d0ce660c299078b86bea |
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| 17:47.10 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:47.18 | Shirik | this your signature thing again? |
| 17:47.27 | foxlit | In other news today: numbers longer than anyone would've ever wanted |
| 17:47.53 | foxlit | Yes, I'm more or less done if WoW could actually do the math. |
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| 18:07.09 | Shirik | I could probably write a library to handle your numbers |
| 18:07.22 | Shirik | I've done it before |
| 18:08.48 | JoshBorke | i wrote a bignum implementation in mirc before |
| 18:08.51 | JoshBorke | that was painful |
| 18:10.30 | foxlit | I did find a lua-based implementation of bignum |
| 18:10.36 | JoshBorke | not the actual writing mind you, but the running :( |
| 18:10.57 | foxlit | Problem is, the number are stil way to big for what it uses internally |
| 18:11.19 | Shirik | if I were to write it, it would support an indefinitely sized number |
| 18:11.27 | Shirik | I've done it in assembly, I'm sure I can do it in lua |
| 18:11.32 | Shirik | with 8 bit registers, much less |
| 18:11.51 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 18:12.07 | Shirik | it was a pain, mind you |
| 18:12.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Ow |
| 18:12.13 | Shirik | I had to do it so I could implement MT19937 on a 68HCS12 |
| 18:12.15 | Shirik | but it worked |
| 18:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I hurt from just thinking about it |
| 18:12.28 | Shirik | 32 bit multiplication ftw |
| 18:12.58 | foxlit | purl, bignum |
| 18:13.00 | purl | bignum is, like, ... |
| 18:13.04 | Shirik | ...... |
| 18:13.09 | foxlit | purl, bignum is http://oss.digirati.com.br/luabignum/bn/index.htm |
| 18:13.11 | purl | ...but bignum is already something else... |
| 18:13.21 | Shirik | you need to do "no, purl, bignum is..." |
| 18:13.35 | foxlit | purl, bignum |
| 18:13.37 | purl | somebody said bignum was http://oss.digirati.com.br/luabignum/bn/index.htm |
| 18:13.37 | Shirik | or is it "purl, no, bignum is.." |
| 18:13.41 | Shirik | wtf |
| 18:13.45 | Shirik | it's not supposed to save that |
| 18:13.51 | Shirik | w/e :P |
| 18:13.54 | DT_ | Can someone explain the whole purl thing to me |
| 18:14.05 | Shirik | purl is a human we pay to sit at the computer |
| 18:14.13 | foxlit | Private messages, Shirik :) |
| 18:14.14 | Shirik | to remember things for us and then repeat them when we ask |
| 18:14.25 | Shirik | ahh |
| 18:17.23 | Shirik | DT_: |
| 18:17.27 | Shirik | purl, who are you? |
| 18:17.34 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Shirik |
| 18:17.38 | Shirik | purl, what is purl? |
| 18:17.42 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Shirik |
| 18:17.43 | JoshBorke | purl, what are you? |
| 18:17.44 | purl | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 18:17.45 | Shirik | ~purl |
| 18:17.49 | Shirik | there >.> |
| 18:17.50 | JoshBorke | purl, blootbot |
| 18:17.52 | purl | blootbot is probably an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ , I am a blootbot |
| 18:19.12 | DT_ | So who's computer is purl running on? One of yours? |
| 18:19.27 | Shirik | hrm |
| 18:19.30 | Cairenn|afk | purl, who owns you? |
| 18:19.32 | purl | TimRiker does |
| 18:19.46 | Shirik | uh |
| 18:19.47 | Shirik | that's wrong >< |
| 18:19.55 | Cairenn|afk | no it isn't |
| 18:19.59 | Tem | no it's not |
| 18:20.00 | Cairenn|afk | ~timriker |
| 18:20.02 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 18:20.07 | Shirik | hm, well he's not online :P |
| 18:20.18 | Cairenn|afk | so? |
| 18:20.25 | Shirik | would have thought they'd both be on >< |
| 18:20.36 | Cairenn|afk | why? it's a bot |
| 18:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Purl is actually one process hosting I believe four bots here on freenode all at once |
| 18:21.10 | ScytheBlade1 | 384MB RAM, 300 MHZ processor |
| 18:21.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files |
| 18:21.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | this phrase |
| 18:21.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | makes my brain hurt |
| 18:21.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | He's a good guy |
| 18:22.04 | Cairenn|afk | purl is in so many channels that Tim had to put infobot into the wiki channel instead |
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| 18:22.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. I've got jbot in my channel, ibot in another, purl here.. |
| 18:22.59 | ScytheBlade1 | They're around. |
| 18:23.03 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
| 18:23.22 | Cairenn|afk | and yeah, Tim's a good guy |
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| 18:50.00 | leethal | I've been trying to figure out how to submit an addon to curse-gaming for 10 minutes now |
| 18:50.08 | leethal | I did it 3 times before, but I simply can't find it |
| 18:50.11 | leethal | what a lol site -_- |
| 18:50.24 | Shirik | how long did it take you to submit one on wowi? |
| 18:50.47 | leethal | just did, liek 30 secs |
| 18:50.52 | Shirik | exactly :) |
| 18:53.08 | foxlit | Curse was easier, imo |
| 18:53.25 | nevcairiel | the new curse is so weird |
| 18:53.29 | Shirik | I can't even figure out how to download from curse |
| 18:53.29 | nevcairiel | the old was easier imho |
| 18:53.36 | Shirik | I'm not going to try uploading |
| 18:54.01 | foxlit | There's a slight wrapping bug |
| 18:54.09 | foxlit | I'd bug [Cu]Werik, but he's not around here anymore :/ |
| 18:54.37 | foxlit | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/submit/ to add a project? |
| 18:55.54 | leethal | yay thanks |
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| 18:56.30 | Shirik | so what addon is this? |
| 18:58.31 | leethal | Auto Whiner |
| 18:58.38 | leethal | posting a link in 2 sec |
| 18:59.05 | Kaso | it takes me like 2 min to work out how to search for addons each time i goto curse, let alone submit |
| 18:59.35 | leethal | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/unitframe/auto-whiner/ |
| 18:59.44 | Shirik | I refuse to go to that link as it's a curse link :P |
| 18:59.48 | leethal | posting the curse one as the wowi one isn't approved |
| 18:59.51 | leethal | (yet) |
| 18:59.56 | Shirik | poo |
| 19:00.27 | Kaso | hogger is immune to MC?! |
| 19:00.35 | Kaso | overpowered if you ask me. |
| 19:00.56 | Kaydeethree | could you imagine the damage possible if we could control hogger? |
| 19:00.57 | leethal | yay, http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7151 |
| 19:01.21 | leethal | I'll probably add some real messages soon =P |
| 19:01.36 | leethal | it's kinda hard to remember to take a screenshot when you're in combat and you get one of these messages |
| 19:01.42 | Shirik | oh fun |
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| 19:01.52 | leethal | real messages = real screenshots, btw |
| 19:01.55 | leethal | the messages work |
| 19:02.00 | Shirik | one of my tanks was asking about something like this earlier |
| 19:02.22 | Shirik | "The latest version of this file is currently awaiting approval from a file admin. You can download a previous (older) version from the archive." |
| 19:02.23 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:03.21 | leethal | yeah |
| 19:03.26 | leethal | so go the curse one until it's approved |
| 19:03.31 | leethal | no admin approval there |
| 19:03.37 | leethal | or poke cladhaire =P |
| 19:04.28 | cladhaire | approved |
| 19:04.45 | Shirik | :D |
| 19:05.22 | Kaso | planetW, if variable == nil, if not variable, both work. |
| 19:05.54 | Kaso | or if you want test the inverse, if variable then, if variable ~= nil then |
| 19:05.58 | leethal | woo |
| 19:06.02 | Shirik | holy crap leethal |
| 19:06.05 | Shirik | was that seriously necessary? |
| 19:06.09 | Shirik | line 42 |
| 19:06.14 | Shirik | "EVENTS" in huge bubble letters |
| 19:06.18 | leethal | huhm |
| 19:06.24 | leethal | which file? |
| 19:06.27 | leethal | oh, that |
| 19:06.28 | leethal | hehe |
| 19:06.40 | Shirik | -- Basuc stuff |
| 19:06.42 | leethal | well, no, but I liked it =P |
| 19:06.43 | Shirik | >.> |
| 19:06.44 | leethal | aw |
| 19:06.49 | Shirik | fail. |
| 19:06.53 | leethal | so many bugs in the comments =( |
| 19:06.57 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:07.40 | leethal | I didn't test half of it either, like mana tide alerts, frenzied regen on droods etc |
| 19:07.43 | Shirik | this is curious: for _, table in pairs({party_events, common_events}) do |
| 19:08.08 | leethal | DRY ftw |
| 19:08.13 | Shirik | but meh, I'll be giving this to my mt later to see what happens |
| 19:08.14 | Shirik | dry? |
| 19:08.19 | leethal | a list of events to register in party |
| 19:08.24 | leethal | Don't Repeat Yourself |
| 19:08.29 | Shirik | ah |
| 19:08.38 | Shirik | you can't always follow those philosophies, you know |
| 19:08.40 | leethal | nice code > performance =P |
| 19:08.54 | Shirik | I can't say I agree with that statement |
| 19:09.08 | Shirik | but it's an opinion |
| 19:09.25 | leethal | hmm, perhaps I'll just as well do it by hand |
| 19:09.37 | Shirik | not trying to force this upon you >< |
| 19:09.48 | Shirik | just realize if you do something like that, every time the function is called, you create a new table |
| 19:10.06 | Shirik | also it should totally be pairs{party_events, common_events} just to piss cladhaire off |
| 19:10.11 | Shirik | :D just kidding please don't kill me >< |
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| 19:10.26 | leethal | :O |
| 19:10.48 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 19:10.59 | leethal | Shirik: hmm.. so I could make a raid_event_groups table or something silly to avoid creating a new table? |
| 19:11.11 | leethal | Shirik: but that'd be so tricky-ish I'd rather do it by hand =P |
| 19:13.22 | planetW | Kaso - thanks :) |
| 19:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone else in here use DreamChat? I'm having a few problems with it. |
| 19:14.56 | leethal | XChat ftw |
| 19:15.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 19:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It's an in game addon.. |
| 19:15.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:15.17 | leethal | kek |
| 19:20.05 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: #wowace might get you alittle more help on dc :p |
| 19:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian, yeah, probably. Good idea, thanks. |
| 19:20.49 | leethal | #dongle might give you some more info on ace *grins* |
| 19:20.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:20.58 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [leethal!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (cladhaire) |
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| 19:21.25 | Shirik | really, that's what I expected when I made the snipe about pairs{} |
| 19:21.43 | leethal | claidhaire kicked you with the reason "cladhaire" |
| 19:21.48 | leethal | cladhaire is a reason, imba :O |
| 19:21.52 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 19:22.26 | Shirik | hi i rock |
| 19:22.30 | Kaydeethree | har |
| 19:22.31 | Shirik | ha! |
| 19:22.42 | Industrial | OWNED |
| 19:22.43 | Industrial | :D |
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| 19:22.53 | Kaydeethree | yay for abusing ns? |
| 19:23.01 | Shirik | he stole my nick :( |
| 19:23.02 | Shirik_ | server booted me ftw |
| 19:23.04 | Shirik_ | woha |
| 19:23.10 | Shirik | 15:23:00 » Quit: Shirik ‹n=leethal@kri1-1x-dhcp065.studby.uio.no› ‹Nick collision from services.› |
| 19:23.16 | Shirik | Don't try to steal my nick! |
| 19:23.17 | Industrial | pwnt :3 |
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| 19:23.47 | leethal | i r hax00r n abuses u |
| 19:23.51 | Shirik | btw leethal |
| 19:23.52 | Shirik | I = own you |
| 19:24.39 | leethal | =/ |
| 19:24.42 | Shirik | :D |
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| 19:25.40 | planetW | I have a thick here... - I have a line 'if (MyCont == OtherCont) then' where MyCont and OtherCont are both numeric. If the numbers are the same it isnt going into the 'if' statement - have I missed somthing? |
| 19:25.59 | leethal | are they both type number? |
| 19:26.02 | planetW | yup |
| 19:26.11 | leethal | "50" and 50 is not equal |
| 19:26.16 | leethal | neither is 50 and 50.0 methinks |
| 19:26.22 | leethal | but 50 and 50 is |
| 19:26.23 | Shirik | yes they are |
| 19:26.28 | leethal | oh k |
| 19:26.35 | leethal | I'm used to Ruby =P |
| 19:26.39 | Shirik | there is no distinction between integers and floating point in Lua |
| 19:27.06 | Shirik | be advised, though, that it is very possible that something like sqrt(50*2)^2+1 ~= 51 |
| 19:27.18 | planetW | DOH! my bad - it was a string... need to to a 'tonumber' on it! |
| 19:30.03 | Shirik | >>> (math.sqrt(50)*3)^2/9+1 == 51 |
| 19:30.04 | Cide | Shirik: false |
| 19:30.09 | Shirik | see ;) |
| 19:30.14 | leethal | uhm |
| 19:30.39 | Shirik | so be careful with floating points, but you should do that in every language |
| 19:30.53 | Shirik | >>> math.abs((math.sqrt(50)*3)^2/9+1 - 51) < 0.0001 |
| 19:30.54 | Cide | Shirik: true |
| 19:31.18 | foxlit | >>> (math.sqrt(50)*3)^2/9+1 - 51) |
| 19:31.18 | Cide | foxlit: [string "(math.sqrt(50)*3)^2/9+1 - 51)"]:1: syntax error near '^' |
| 19:31.23 | foxlit | >>> math.sqrt(50)*3)^2/9+1 - 51) |
| 19:31.23 | Cide | foxlit: [string "math.sqrt(50)*3)^2/9+1 - 51)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '*' |
| 19:31.37 | Shirik | too many ) |
| 19:31.39 | foxlit | >>> (math.sqrt(50)*3)^2/9+1 - 51 |
| 19:31.39 | Cide | foxlit: 7.105427357601e-015 |
| 19:32.47 | Kaydeethree | what's the math.___ function for e^(x)? |
| 19:32.52 | leethal | >>> math.sqrt(10) |
| 19:32.53 | Cide | leethal: 3.1622776601684 |
| 19:32.59 | Shirik | another great way to check for floating point errors..... |
| 19:33.01 | Shirik | is this |
| 19:33.03 | leethal | hmm, wtf is math.sqrt |
| 19:33.06 | leethal | >>> math.sqrt(1) |
| 19:33.06 | Cide | leethal: 1 |
| 19:33.07 | Kaydeethree | e^pi-pi |
| 19:33.16 | Shirik | >>> math.exp(1)^math.pi - math.pi |
| 19:33.16 | Cide | Shirik: 19.999099979189 |
| 19:33.20 | Shirik | damn it, Kaydeethree beat me |
| 19:33.33 | leethal | I need to l2math, it seems |
| 19:33.34 | Kaydeethree | I remember the xkcd comment where that was shown |
| 19:33.38 | Shirik | hehe |
| 19:34.18 | Shirik | leethal... math.sqrt is square root |
| 19:34.23 | Shirik | and Kaydeethree, it's math.exp ;) |
| 19:34.28 | Kaydeethree | I saw |
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| 19:37.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian, no one answered my question :/ |
| 19:38.31 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Stay in there and ping akx. he's the dev |
| 19:38.38 | Xuerian | He'll come around sooner or later |
| 19:38.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian, will do. Thanks. |
| 19:38.48 | Xuerian | of chatr repute |
| 19:40.04 | Corrodias | my garbage disposal apparently came detached from the sink so water was running all down the inside... |
| 19:40.07 | Corrodias | ah, fun times! |
| 19:40.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Oops. |
| 19:40.42 | Corrodias | i don't even know how to -use- a garbage disposal unit |
| 19:40.50 | Corrodias | it was here when i got here :/ |
| 19:40.53 | Maldivia | anyone seen the vista speech recognition video on youtube, where he tries to make a small perl script ? (yeah, I know it's rather old) |
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| 19:41.23 | foxlit | CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE! MY COMPUTER SELECT ALL DELETE YES YES |
| 19:41.31 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 19:41.48 | Kaydeethree | hahaha... I remember hearing about that a few months ago |
| 19:42.55 | Kaydeethree | people actually had mp3s play on websites that'd voice rec would pick up |
| 19:42.55 | Maldivia | haven't seen it before now, it's hilarious... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc |
| 19:44.15 | Corrodias | "press capital 'i'"? what is he, retarded? it's shift-i |
| 19:49.37 | Shirik | does anyone know how "forbidden love" is capitalized when going into the romulo & julianne event? |
| 19:49.37 | Shirik | the stage manager says it |
| 19:50.00 | Shirik | elseif string.find(msg, "forbidden love") then-- Romulo and Julianne |
| 19:50.03 | Shirik | that didn't catch it |
| 19:52.11 | Kaydeethree | I think it's lowercase |
| 19:52.24 | Kaydeethree | considering that's all I've seen for the past 2 months you'd think I'd remember... |
| 19:52.42 | Shirik | well.... |
| 19:52.49 | Shirik | what I just showed is an exact line |
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| 19:52.53 | Shirik | so if that didn't catch it.. |
| 19:53.13 | Corrodias | .tolowercase.find or something |
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| 19:53.32 | Shirik | was trying to avoid that :/ |
| 19:53.38 | Corrodias | i'll cut you |
| 19:54.04 | Iriel | Just do "[Ff]orbidden" ? |
| 19:54.17 | Nubl3t | Can anyone help me with my Auctionner Addon? |
| 19:54.29 | Iriel | Nubl3t: It'd depend what you need |
| 19:54.35 | Nubl3t | It gives me independices missing and it won't let me load it. |
| 19:54.48 | Corrodias | lately, i've lost my will to obtain gold |
| 19:54.49 | Iriel | Did you download the 'auctioneer complete' zip? |
| 19:54.54 | Kaydeethree | auctioneer depends on stubby and enhtooltip |
| 19:55.00 | Nubl3t | where do i download the full thing? |
| 19:55.04 | Nubl3t | i tried http://www.auctioneeraddon.com/ |
| 19:55.05 | Kaydeethree | auctioneeraddon.com |
| 19:55.10 | Iriel | auctioneeraddon.com IIRC |
| 19:55.10 | Nubl3t | it didn't work still |
| 19:55.18 | Nubl3t | brb il try again |
| 19:55.21 | Kaydeethree | http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/?dl=AuctioneerComplete/auctioneerpack-4.0.1.zip |
| 19:55.22 | Shirik | Iriel: I guess I could do that |
| 19:55.26 | Corrodias | i just don't need it now that i have my mount. i'm an herbalist / miner so i can get my own gems and herbs for the most part. and i'm a druid tank so most of the crafted gear, beyond heavy clefthoof stuff, won't help me. |
| 19:55.28 | Shirik | thanks |
| 19:56.28 | Iriel | Anyone know (without looking it up, I could do that myself) which of the centaur in thousand needles have the Moldy Tome for the warlock Tome of the Cabal? |
| 19:57.20 | DT_ | I thought it was a chest |
| 19:57.24 | Kaydeethree | nah. all I remember of 1k is the salt flats |
| 19:57.51 | Iriel | Hm, is there a centaur camp on the flats? That may be itr |
| 19:57.55 | Iriel | I haven't checked there |
| 19:58.15 | Kaydeethree | not iirc. just a camp of silithid and basilisks south of the racetrack |
| 19:58.46 | Shirik | wtf |
| 19:58.49 | Shirik | Iriel doesn't know everything? |
| 19:58.52 | Shirik | impossible. |
| 19:58.58 | Shirik | you must be an impostor. |
| 20:00.48 | Iriel | heh |
| 20:00.50 | DT_ | Shirik, for the forbidden love thing, maybe you accidentally registered to the wrong chat msg event? |
| 20:00.51 | Maldivia | hmm... a small question about the 2.1 changes to the secure headers, the showParty attribute, says "while in a party and not in a raid", but in the code it checks " (nRaid > 0 or nParty > 0)" -- or am I just reading it wrong |
| 20:01.10 | Shirik | no, the same bind handles three possibilities |
| 20:01.15 | Shirik | and it catches the other two flawlessly |
| 20:01.38 | Nubl3t | Bye guys |
| 20:01.42 | Iriel | Maldivia: It's entirely possible it's not quite right, let me look at it a sec |
| 20:05.33 | Iriel | Maldivia: Damn, my copy of the test realm is out of date, need to update |
| 20:05.52 | Kaydeethree | build 6692 is current |
| 20:06.10 | Iriel | My mac's only on 6641 |
| 20:06.36 | Kaydeethree | 6655, 6678, 6692, then |
| 20:08.10 | foxlit | Hm, BigNum with coroutines |
| 20:08.29 | Shirik | rofl |
| 20:08.35 | Shirik | I love how in the SCII cinematic trailer |
| 20:08.40 | Shirik | "Hell, it's about time" |
| 20:08.55 | Kaydeethree | go look at wow.com/blizzard.com/b.net/... |
| 20:09.21 | Shirik | HTTP Status 500 - No Context configured to process this request |
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| 20:17.40 | kergoth | whats most efficient for a lowbie pally, seal of the rightiousness or seal of the crusader? the latter, judge, then the former? or not bother? |
| 20:18.05 | Shirik | dodod what's crusader again? |
| 20:18.07 | Shirik | I should know this |
| 20:18.12 | Shirik | extra holy damage |
| 20:18.13 | Shirik | yeah? |
| 20:18.47 | kergoth | yea |
| 20:19.07 | kergoth | well, judging it is, the seal is the extra ap and faster attack with lower damage thing |
| 20:19.27 | Shirik | meh, don't take my advice on pallies, I suck with them |
| 20:19.30 | Shirik | but I use crusader |
| 20:19.39 | Shirik | judgement |
| 20:19.42 | kergoth | my pally's a whopping level 11 :) |
| 20:19.49 | Shirik | hehe |
| 20:20.17 | kergoth | i hate it when i run from org to xr, and realize i forgot to get the fp in org |
| 20:20.27 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:20.32 | Shirik | you should be a blood elf!! |
| 20:20.36 | Shirik | wait |
| 20:20.40 | Shirik | how are you a pally and not a blood elf? |
| 20:20.51 | kergoth | he is :) a friend is an orc though, we're gonna level in xr |
| 20:21.00 | Shirik | ahhh |
| 20:21.03 | Shirik | ok |
| 20:21.10 | Shirik | anyway, I'm going to sleep before kara |
| 20:21.11 | Shirik | night |
| 20:21.18 | kergoth | nigth |
| 20:21.40 | Shirik|zZz | screw you nickserv I am identified you just don't know it |
| 20:22.58 | foxlit | >>> b = function (a) a = 5; end; c = 3; b(c); print(c) |
| 20:22.58 | Cide | foxlit: 3 |
| 20:23.18 | foxlit | >>> b = function (a) a = 5; end; c = {3}; b(c); print(c[1]) |
| 20:23.18 | Cide | foxlit: 3 |
| 20:23.57 | foxlit | Always passed by value? |
| 20:24.13 | foxlit | >>> b = function (a) a[1] = 5; end; c = {3}; b(c); print(c[1]) |
| 20:24.13 | Cide | foxlit: 5 |
| 20:24.59 | foxlit | >>> b = function (a) a[1] = 5; a = 3 end; c = {3}; b(c); print(c[1]) |
| 20:24.59 | Cide | foxlit: 5 |
| 20:25.45 | foxlit | So you get a new pointer to an old table. |
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| 20:40.40 | Iriel | Damn it, why can I only break aftercast when i'm not paying any attention? |
| 20:44.19 | Maldivia | heheh |
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| 20:44.59 | Maldivia | know the feeling |
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| 20:45.10 | Iriel | something causes it to think i'm casting 2 spells at the same time |
| 20:45.13 | Iriel | and it goes downhill from there |
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| 20:52.58 | foxlit | Use /stopcasting anywhere? |
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| 20:57.26 | Iriel | No, it's an event sequence issue |
| 20:57.38 | Iriel | I just have trouble figuring out which event causes it |
| 20:59.50 | Iriel | Maldivia: I agree that's a bug |
| 21:01.12 | Iriel | Maldivia: Either in the documentation or the code., i'm not sure what slouken et al were after |
| 21:01.51 | Maldivia | I would think the documentation is correct, since for the other behaviour, you can just set both the showRaid and showParty attributes |
| 21:02.25 | Iriel | That certainly makes most sense |
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| 21:16.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i now have every key in the game unless the eye/hyjal/black temple has one :O |
| 21:18.11 | Maldivia | so, how many keys in your keyring ? |
| 21:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | 22 atm |
| 21:18.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have some temporary keys |
| 21:18.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see minus those |
| 21:19.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | 4...or maybe 5 temp keys |
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| 21:19.25 | Maldivia | what about old keys? still have those? |
| 21:19.26 | Kaydeethree | the tk key is a key, bt is a neck, hyjal is like ssc, a spell cast on you |
| 21:20.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, mal |
| 21:21.08 | Maldivia | workshop key? |
| 21:21.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 21:21.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | workshop through key to the city |
| 21:21.35 | Maldivia | cresent? |
| 21:22.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 21:22.13 | Maldivia | key to the searing gorge? |
| 21:22.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep :p |
| 21:22.26 | Maldivia | scarab coffer key! heh |
| 21:22.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | temporary, isnt it? |
| 21:22.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno i didnt do much aq |
| 21:22.55 | Maldivia | well, it's expendable |
| 21:23.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats what i meant |
| 21:24.08 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 21:24.38 | Maldivia | jump-a-tron? scarlet? |
| 21:24.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah yeah :p |
| 21:24.57 | Maldivia | skeleton :) |
| 21:25.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 21:25.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | what can i say, i like being able to go anywhere |
| 21:26.35 | Maldivia | now go collect one of each expendable aswell! :) |
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| 21:28.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm too lazy |
| 21:28.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i even have corki's keys |
| 21:28.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus i don't know how well the game would handle a 107 slot "bag" |
| 21:29.33 | Maldivia | I think it's only 32 or 48 slots :) |
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| 21:52.07 | Maldivia | hmm, *grumble* |
| 21:53.13 | leethal | hmm |
| 21:53.20 | leethal | where is the "hide lua errors zomg" config option? |
| 21:53.28 | Iriel | Interface options |
| 21:53.32 | Iriel | if you're talking 2.1 |
| 21:53.37 | leethal | mm |
| 21:53.43 | leethal | just found it, thanx |
| 21:54.55 | Maldivia | why isn't it possible to register 2 units for the same frame, with RegisterUnitWatch :) |
| 21:57.11 | Maldivia | or is there a way I'm overlooking, to have a secure frame auto show/hide when you enter/leave a party/raid |
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| 21:59.40 | Iriel | Maldivia: In 2.1 you can use macro conditionals to drive state changes (but not visibility directly, unfortunately) |
| 22:00.59 | Maldivia | Iriel: if it was just the one or the other, it was easy, setting unit to party1 or raid1, and registering the secure frame to be watched |
| 22:01.33 | Maldivia | but either or, and there's a problem :| |
| 22:01.54 | Iriel | Maldivia: yeah, the unit watch stuff was expected to be easy to use, the macro conditional stuff allows more complex conditionals, but unfortunately at present requires you use a state header somewhere |
| 22:02.22 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 22:03.03 | Maldivia | and the biggest problem is, I haven't worked with this code for 3 months now, can't remember half the stuff :) |
| 22:11.53 | Iriel | I know /that/ feeling 8-) |
| 22:13.13 | Maldivia | but yeah, the state header macro text helped a lot :) |
| 22:13.38 | Iriel | For 2.2 I have a proposal that adds hide/show as an easy attribute driven setting, no state header required |
| 22:13.41 | Iriel | I was just a bit late |
| 22:13.47 | ravagernl | If I want to have some frame exactly say, like 100 pixels, would I scale it with this rule: frame:SetScale(UIParent:GetWidth()/GetScreenWidth) ? |
| 22:14.07 | Iriel | ravagernl: Well, do you mean real or virtual pixels? |
| 22:14.13 | ravagernl | real |
| 22:14.25 | leethal | methinks pixels is screwed anyway, as soon as peeps enable ui scale and stuff |
| 22:14.26 | Iriel | You can't easily FIND real pixels |
| 22:14.43 | Iriel | If you're willing to give up on those who play windowed, it's easier |
| 22:14.58 | Iriel | You'd need to query the resolution setting, then compensate for the screen width and whatever |
| 22:15.26 | Iriel | Unscaled, the UI "screen" is always 768 units high, regardless of screen resolution |
| 22:15.27 | ravagernl | hmm, windowed mode didnt even come up for me |
| 22:16.41 | ravagernl | hmm, and what about 1 / UIParent:GetScale() ? |
| 22:16.47 | foxlit | Is there an easy way I could tell wow to suspend my current calculation and finish rendering the screen, other than coroutines? |
| 22:16.57 | Iriel | None |
| 22:17.13 | Iriel | Apart from essentially writing an interruptable calculation yourself |
| 22:17.42 | foxlit | So if I want to do something in the background, should register a callback and run blocks of the coroutine on OnUpdate? |
| 22:17.51 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 22:17.58 | ravagernl | Bah, i suck in maths |
| 22:18.00 | Iriel | And do a time based Yield |
| 22:19.39 | ravagernl | Let me explain what I have: I have a design in photoshop that I want to have exactly the same size in wow, regardless of UI scale |
| 22:20.20 | Iriel | When you say 'size' do you mean 'proportion of the available screen area' ? |
| 22:20.39 | Maldivia | Iriel: ok, the state header for show/hide on group/raid was actually quite easy :) |
| 22:20.40 | Iriel | Or do you mean exact pixels (i.e. if I play with a really high resolution it'll be tiny on my screen) ? |
| 22:20.50 | ravagernl | exact pixels, yeah |
| 22:20.54 | Iriel | Maldivia: I'd hope so, it's just wasteful of a frame |
| 22:21.01 | Maldivia | true |
| 22:21.13 | Iriel | ravagernl: That's really annoying for people who dont use the same screen res as you 8-) |
| 22:21.30 | Iriel | ravagernl: I'd recommend you calculate the numbers for YOUR monitor, but make it so it compensates based on monitor anyway |
| 22:21.55 | ravagernl | I made the design for my resolution, so that's not important |
| 22:22.06 | Iriel | What's your resolution? |
| 22:22.13 | ravagernl | 1680/1050 |
| 22:22.42 | Iriel | Okay, then exact pixels is frame:SetScale(1050 / 768 / frame:GetParent():GetEffectiveScale()) |
| 22:23.31 | ravagernl | you're awesome :P |
| 22:24.07 | foxlit | Iriel: :Disable() still works on protected frames in combat. |
| 22:24.15 | Iriel | foxlit: It's supposed to |
| 22:24.28 | foxlit | ./click respects disabled flag. |
| 22:25.03 | foxlit | Is that also intended? |
| 22:25.05 | Iriel | foxlit: Hm, that's sorta bad |
| 22:25.43 | foxlit | It's not sorta bad, it's bad to the point of bypassing the secure frames system when it comes to tagetting spells. |
| 22:25.57 | Iriel | I was trying to be amusing with the 'sorta' 8-) |
| 22:26.05 | foxlit | :) |
| 22:26.10 | Iriel | Good find |
| 22:26.14 | Iriel | I'll let slouken know 8-) |
| 22:28.15 | foxlit | Pity, though, since that'd break my error-eating trinket activation |
| 22:34.18 | Iriel | foxlit: I suggested that he make /click'ing a disabled button terminate macro execution |
| 22:35.37 | Shirik | makes sense to me |
| 22:35.49 | Shirik | please don't prevent disabled from working in combat :( |
| 22:36.02 | Iriel | Yeah, I dont think anyone wants that |
| 22:36.20 | Iriel | Id put money on removing /click as more likely than disabling :Disable |
| 22:37.28 | foxlit | Aye, not a bad solution |
| 22:38.03 | foxlit | Is it UseInventoryItem() that spawns errors? |
| 22:38.15 | nevcairiel | removing disabled would screw my poor actionbar mod again >:( |
| 22:38.37 | foxlit | Still want some way to silently use trinkets in conjunction with NS as a panic button. |
| 22:39.47 | nevcairiel | did someone write a taint-checker addon for 2.1 yet which shows who tainted ? |
| 22:40.06 | foxlit | Just wrote a luapad script to go over the globals |
| 22:40.33 | foxlit | Turns out one of my functions taints n :/ |
| 22:40.38 | foxlit | Good luck finding that. |
| 22:40.47 | Iriel | I have a trick for that |
| 22:41.02 | Shirik | taints n? |
| 22:41.08 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:41.10 | nevcairiel | get luac and check for setglobal |
| 22:41.29 | Iriel | ~/contrib/lua-5.1.1/src/luac -l -p AfterCast.lua | grep SETGLOBAL |
| 22:41.50 | nevcairiel | a guildmate cant change raidlayout in combat |
| 22:41.54 | nevcairiel | i guess something taints him |
| 22:41.58 | nevcairiel | but i cant really find it |
| 22:42.18 | foxlit | Raidlayout isn't a secure idea? |
| 22:42.29 | foxlit | You just need a hardware event, I think. |
| 22:42.34 | nevcairiel | sure? |
| 22:42.44 | foxlit | Not really, but the 2.0 social window isn't protected |
| 22:43.05 | nevcairiel | at least he cannot move players around, no idea why .. he send me his full addon dir so that i ccan check |
| 22:43.10 | Iriel | Raid layout is protected in combat |
| 22:43.25 | Shirik | man |
| 22:43.25 | Iriel | If you mean 'which raid members are in which groups' |
| 22:43.30 | Shirik | that would be incredibly ugly |
| 22:43.30 | Shirik | but |
| 22:43.32 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 22:43.43 | Shirik | I guess with that disabled trick, it's possible to make the old-style decursive again, eh? |
| 22:43.53 | foxlit | It's not _that_ ugly |
| 22:43.53 | Iriel | yes |
| 22:44.16 | foxlit | You need about 42 lines of click and a preclick handler |
| 22:44.26 | Shirik | for each button |
| 22:44.29 | Shirik | unless you only want one |
| 22:44.50 | foxlit | each button? |
| 22:44.58 | foxlit | Ah, the priority thing |
| 22:45.08 | Shirik | dunno how decursive really worked. RDX expanded the window and compressed it as needed |
| 22:45.17 | Shirik | guess that wouldn't be possible |
| 22:45.21 | Shirik | but.... maybe 10 buttons or so |
| 22:45.38 | nevcairiel | people should learn to decurse on their raidframes |
| 22:45.41 | nevcairiel | or not raid at all. |
| 22:45.49 | Shirik | totally |
| 22:45.54 | sysrage | agreed. clique decursing FTW |
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| 22:46.00 | Shirik | if you can't do that, you do not deserve playing a healing class |
| 22:46.06 | Shirik | if you can't dispel, you sure as hell can't heal |
| 22:46.12 | sysrage | mages don't heal :P |
| 22:46.14 | nevcairiel | i dont even use clique |
| 22:46.18 | Shirik | ok mages don't decurse anyway |
| 22:46.19 | nevcairiel | i target, press dispell hotkey |
| 22:46.19 | Shirik | so it doesn't matter |
| 22:46.23 | sysrage | uh |
| 22:46.24 | sysrage | ok |
| 22:46.27 | Shirik | they don't |
| 22:46.28 | Shirik | you have to ask |
| 22:46.29 | foxlit | wtb mouse with more buttons |
| 22:46.34 | sysrage | not in my guild |
| 22:46.34 | Shirik | and even then they're like "wtf I can decurse?" |
| 22:46.42 | foxlit | Nah, mages decurse. |
| 22:46.59 | foxlit | I can't really be bothered with curses, but they still disappear in guild raids. Must be mages. |
| 22:47.00 | nevcairiel | if you tell them "decurse or you will be replaced by a warlock" they :p |
| 22:47.31 | foxlit | Still need one for water |
| 22:47.36 | sysrage | SRF turns cursed people pink.. i right click them. it takes about a 10th of a second. why wouldn't i? |
| 22:47.52 | nevcairiel | but our mages dont decurse either, but then again .. i cannot think of a raid encounter with curses |
| 22:47.54 | foxlit | Pressing a hotkey takes less thought. |
| 22:48.06 | foxlit | Attuman |
| 22:48.08 | Fin | thinking is for the weak |
| 22:48.18 | foxlit | Some of the twin guardian pairs in kara |
| 22:48.19 | sysrage | i actually decurse far better now using clique on raid frame then i did when i spammed the decursive hotkey |
| 22:48.24 | foxlit | kazzak? |
| 22:48.26 | nevcairiel | i am a druid, so i decurse anyway .. dunno :D |
| 22:48.39 | foxlit | I am a druid, and i pretend I'm in tree form |
| 22:48.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:48.59 | nevcairiel | isnt decursing possible in tree as of 2.1? |
| 22:49.07 | foxlit | Not in 2.0, anyhow |
| 22:49.09 | nevcairiel | or did i mix one fake log with the real one again? |
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| 22:49.56 | foxlit | Nothing in them |
| 22:50.14 | nevcairiel | ah guess i mixed the notes again |
| 22:50.14 | Shirik | damn you IRC |
| 22:50.14 | Shirik | I'm trying to tab-complete names in WoW whispers now |
| 22:50.22 | Shirik | you have corrupted my mind |
| 22:50.30 | amro | write an addon |
| 22:50.35 | nevcairiel | there are addons for that |
| 22:50.40 | Shirik | ooo |
| 22:50.45 | foxlit | Ace needs to steal my slashcommand tooltip idea |
| 22:50.45 | Iriel | I think tem wrote one |
| 22:50.47 | Shirik | but prat already destroys any other chat addons |
| 22:50.53 | nevcairiel | i think teknicolor can do that |
| 22:50.55 | foxlit | Commandline configuration is bloody annoying |
| 22:50.59 | Tem | wrote what? |
| 22:51.01 | nevcairiel | if it still works :P |
| 22:51.52 | ravagernl | waterfall! |
| 22:51.54 | Iriel | The trick with tab completion is doing it in such a way it doesn't taint the commands that are protected |
| 22:52.04 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Just checked on forums -- 2.1 doesn't change what can be cast in Tree of Life form. It actually takes away Omen of Clarity. |
| 22:52.05 | Iriel | Tem: Tab completion for chat? |
| 22:52.15 | Tem | oh yeah |
| 22:52.16 | Tem | I did |
| 22:52.22 | Tem | I dunno if it still works |
| 22:52.23 | foxlit | Thought they added barkskin |
| 22:52.30 | foxlit | At least that's what the EU CMs wrote |
| 22:52.32 | Thrae | Yeah, Tekincolour_tab can be added to Teknicolour for player name completiion. |
| 22:52.45 | nevcairiel | Thrae: i know, i mustve mixed up some fake logs again |
| 22:52.47 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:52.54 | Shirik | I like the name of that addon |
| 22:53.38 | nevcairiel | still no barkskin in bark form tho :P |
| 22:53.47 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:53.50 | foxlit | Forum post said something :/ |
| 22:54.05 | Thrae | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html <-- these are always the official patch notes |
| 22:54.08 | foxlit | Hah. Optimized a ^ b mod c by dumping overflow bits of a in the process of doing exponent, and verify signature actually takes ~1s |
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| 22:54.27 | Thrae | Barkskin was changed to allow it to be cast while Stunned, Fear, Incapacitated, etc. |
| 22:54.35 | foxlit | It always was that |
| 22:54.37 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 22:54.43 | nevcairiel | it now only shows in the tooltip :P |
| 22:54.45 | GeoMance | Ah, it's been so long.. Mrph.. |
| 22:55.03 | foxlit | "Tree of Life and Barkskin |
| 22:55.03 | Thrae | Omen of Clarity was taken away from Moonkin + Tree Form, tooltip updated for Nature's Swiftness and Rebirth to indicate it can be cast in Tree Form |
| 22:55.03 | foxlit | As previously mentioned, Barkskin will be usable in treeform in 2.1. |
| 22:55.07 | foxlit | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=284338532&sid=1 |
| 22:55.13 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 22:55.17 | nevcairiel | not in the patch notes |
| 22:55.40 | Thrae | IMO, Tree Form should reduce the cooldown of Barkskin ;) |
| 22:55.58 | foxlit | Tree of Life form should just add a perma-barkskin |
| 22:56.00 | Thrae | The movement speed decrease is pretty crippling in PvP |
| 22:56.07 | GeoMance | And of course, I pop in and am lost within three minutes of steppin' foot in here. |
| 22:56.37 | Thrae | foxlit: Nah, that's popping into Shaman and especially Paladin territory. Druids are intended to be pretty vulnerable to damage while healing. |
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| 22:56.48 | Thrae | s/damage/melee damage/ |
| 22:57.08 | Thrae | Druids are only hardy in PvP healing because they have so many escape options. |
| 22:57.38 | Thrae | Healing Priests in PvP can only hope Fear lands, then waddle away. |
| 22:59.06 | foxlit | It's funny, though. Had better mana efficiency by spamcancelling downranked HT than by using HoTs and ToL |
| 22:59.33 | foxlit | As it stands, tree is a bit unappealing |
| 23:00.24 | Thrae | foxlit: Odd, I always found myself using HoTs more and using very little mana. Then again, I guess it depends on your group/raid dynamic. |
| 23:01.00 | Thrae | foxlit: If your raid has enough straight healers, a Druid should never really need HT -- their HoTs are much more effective combined with direct healers. |
| 23:01.24 | nevcairiel | i cant wait for fixed lifebloom |
| 23:01.33 | nevcairiel | effectivness triples |
| 23:02.06 | foxlit | Problem is, paladins are notorious for topping off targets that were supposed to be healed by HoTs |
| 23:02.14 | nevcairiel | thats true |
| 23:02.43 | nevcairiel | always depends on the encounter |
| 23:02.50 | nevcairiel | i havent really used my treeform much lately |
| 23:04.14 | foxlit | Same, hence the lack of appeal complaint |
| 23:07.10 | Iriel | Aha! Interrupted channeled spells |
| 23:07.35 | Kaydeethree | gah... someone asking for a link to the mods faq sticky in the ui forum |
| 23:08.35 | Thrae | ~literal google |
| 23:08.38 | purl | "google" is "a search engine found at http://www.google.com/" |
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| 23:08.57 | Thrae | purl, google hot babes. |
| 23:09.07 | Thrae | Wondering if purl had a google module ;) |
| 23:10.16 | foxlit | ~google stuff |
| 23:10.30 | foxlit | probably not :) |
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| 23:14.04 | foxlit | Does calling coroutine.resume(routineInstance) start back at the last yield or at the start? |
| 23:15.53 | Shirik | both |
| 23:16.10 | Shirik | if it has been yielded, it will resume at the yield. If it has never been started, it will start at the start |
| 23:16.15 | Shirik | If it has died, it will throw an error |
| 23:16.32 | Shirik | (i.e., returned or otherwise exited) |
| 23:16.40 | foxlit | Got it |
| 23:24.34 | foxlit | Hey, it works! |
| 23:26.00 | foxlit | Can a function detect that it's running in a coroutine? |
| 23:26.12 | Shirik | in theory, everything is a coroutine |
| 23:26.27 | Shirik | but no, but you can detect coroutine status |
| 23:26.45 | foxlit | I don't think calling coroutine.yield() on "live" code is going to agree with the error handler |
| 23:26.52 | Shirik | it won't ;) |
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| 23:31.36 | foxlit | Hm, looks like I need better modulo code |
| 23:31.40 | Aella | How so? |
| 23:32.13 | foxlit | Excessively large numbers. |
| 23:33.07 | Aella | How does it choke? |
| 23:34.02 | foxlit | The blatant answer is that % overflows. |
| 23:34.20 | foxlit | calculating a mod b, b ~ 2^2008 |
| 23:36.27 | foxlit | BigNum has a division routine, but the performance on that is terrible |
| 23:42.44 | GeoMance | In the xml stuff, you nest a frame in a frame using the <Frames> ... </Frame> tag, right? |
| 23:42.53 | Aella | Yes. |
| 23:43.00 | Aella | <Frames>…</Frames> |
| 23:43.27 | Shirik | qq |
| 23:43.31 | GeoMance | And the parent of a frame in there, is the originating frame? |
| 23:43.31 | Shirik | Aella totally did that just to mess with me |
| 23:43.46 | Aella | Untrue, |
| 23:43.55 | Aella | GeoMance: Yes. |
| 23:44.00 | foxlit | Unless otherwise specified, yes. |
| 23:44.11 | foxlit | You can still do <Frame parent="TheSky"> if you wanted to, I think |
| 23:46.34 | GeoMance | And you can create relative sized frame inside a frame, by using Anchors? I'm asking, 'cause this blasted thing keeps acting as if it's parent is the UIParent, rather than my created frame. |
| 23:47.07 | Aella | Yeah, but I'm pretty sure you need to put relativeTo="frame" bits in the <Anchor> tags. |
| 23:49.28 | GeoMance | I have that bit in there, but when I view it, I have a simple frame, and a second's supposed to appear inside it, offset by 20 pixels on all sides, and nothing appears for the inner frame. |
| 23:50.51 | foxlit | Hrm, logic help |
| 23:51.28 | foxlit | suppose a=800................., b=4 ............., where .s represent the same amount of unknown digits |
| 23:52.08 | foxlit | If I wanted to do a % b, I'm thinking of doing a = a - b * floor(800/(4+1)) |
| 23:52.48 | foxlit | Am I going in the right direction, or is there some logical issue I don't see at 2am? |
| 23:52.56 | Shirik | um |
| 23:53.01 | Shirik | why not a % b? |
| 23:53.04 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik | for the 5803942853048 digit number? |
| 23:53.11 | foxlit | Because a >> 1.#INF |
| 23:53.24 | foxlit | Bit less, but yes. |
| 23:54.40 | GeoMance | Lua doesn't have a way to force integer division, down it? |
| 23:54.51 | foxlit | floor(a/b) |
| 23:54.59 | foxlit | remainder a%b |
| 23:55.02 | Shirik | um foxlit |
| 23:55.08 | Shirik | I don't know if I'm going crazy here or what |
| 23:55.12 | Shirik | why 4+1? |
| 23:55.19 | GeoMance | I was wondering that too. |
| 23:55.27 | foxlit | On the offchance that it's 4.99999 |
| 23:55.44 | GeoMance | So.. Why not just do 5? |
| 23:55.45 | Shirik | still confused |
| 23:55.50 | foxlit | 800 /4 = 200, but 200 * 4.999 > 800 |
| 23:56.01 | foxlit | (4+1) was to avoid "why 5?" |
| 23:56.05 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:58.42 | GeoMance | Blah. This is getting frustrated. |
| 23:58.46 | GeoMance | Frustrating. |
| 23:58.54 | Shirik | ok foxlit |
| 23:58.59 | Shirik | maybe you can explain your logic for me? |
| 23:59.09 | Shirik | oh! |
| 23:59.16 | Shirik | I missed the whole a = 800, b = 4 |
| 23:59.43 | Shirik | I think you have to be extremely careful with the whole b+1 thing |
