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| 00:00.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had it typed in about 2 seconds after the question went out |
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| 00:02.17 | Adys|sleep | ScytheBlade1 did you ping me? |
| 00:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys, accidently, sorry :) |
| 00:02.39 | Adys | mkay |
| 00:04.38 | Legorol | i missed the chat, is there a log of it somewhere? |
| 00:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ace.pastey.net/37388 |
| 00:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | There. |
| 00:04.59 | Legorol | awesome, thank you |
| 00:05.15 | ScytheBlade1 | np |
| 00:05.20 | Bleeter | 'if all else fails, there's always SC2" rofl |
| 00:06.31 | GeoMance | Is there a reason that a ScrollFrame, that is working and scrolling, would have a Veritcal Scroll of 0, as would its slider? O.o |
| 00:08.23 | GeoMance | VerticalScroll and VerticalScrollRange of 0. O.o |
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| 00:25.45 | Corrodias | so, 2.1 tomorrow. on that note, i'm going to go hang with friends for a while. see ya. |
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| 01:12.27 | GeoMance | Mmmm, Heroes. |
| 01:13.35 | Tain | Save the cheerleader, save 15% on car insurance. |
| 01:15.53 | GeoMance | Hahahah. |
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| 01:41.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Rickroll + Family Guy, last night. Me = wtf, confused, weirded out. |
| 01:41.14 | Kaydeethree | ? |
| 01:41.26 | Kirkburn|afk | You know the whole Rickroll thing on the forums? |
| 01:41.38 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 01:41.42 | Kirkburn|afk | People keep linking to a Youtube song |
| 01:41.43 | Kaydeethree | oh, brianroll? |
| 01:41.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah .... it was on Family Guy last night |
| 01:41.51 | Kaydeethree | drysc's been linking it a bit lately |
| 01:42.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyways, off to bed. Watch last night's Family Guy! |
| 02:02.31 | Tain | Family Guy was funny |
| 02:02.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | Rickroll started on 4chan :o |
| 02:03.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | as a variant on the duckroll, which is a similar concept |
| 02:03.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | a duck with wheels |
| 02:03.17 | Shirik | someone want to double check this? |
| 02:03.20 | Shirik | string.find("Torix gains Spell Steal.", "([^%s]+) %w Spell Steal.") |
| 02:03.23 | Shirik | shouldn't that match? |
| 02:03.30 | Shirik | sorry, that's a %. at the end |
| 02:03.46 | Xuerian | - ^ + |
| 02:03.48 | nymbia | %w+ |
| 02:03.50 | Xuerian | er |
| 02:03.55 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:03.56 | Xuerian | no >_> |
| 02:04.02 | Shirik | damn it |
| 02:04.03 | Shirik | thank you |
| 02:04.06 | nymbia | :) |
| 02:04.21 | nymbia | lies |
| 02:04.23 | nymbia | i seen it |
| 02:04.32 | Xuerian | Your eyes deceive you! =O |
| 02:06.03 | Shirik | ok, I'm sitll doing something wrong |
| 02:06.05 | Shirik | string.find("Torix gains Spell Steal.", "([^%s])+ %w+ Spell Steal.") |
| 02:06.41 | nymbia | oh |
| 02:06.51 | nymbia | ([^%s]+) |
| 02:06.59 | Shirik | sigh |
| 02:07.00 | Shirik | thank you |
| 02:07.15 | Shirik | no wait |
| 02:07.19 | Shirik | this is the exact line from code: local found, _, p = string.find(msg, "([^%s]+) %w+ Spell Shield%."); |
| 02:08.06 | Shirik | .... |
| 02:08.07 | Shirik | I'm a moron |
| 02:08.11 | Shirik | thank you again nymbia |
| 02:08.21 | nymbia | no problem :) |
| 02:09.41 | Shirik | it helps to use the right test case |
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| 02:25.27 | Xuerian | Youtube is corrupting me..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo >.> |
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| 02:29.43 | Xuerian | course, that probably didn't help the situation... |
| 02:31.11 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict RTFPN |
| 02:31.20 | Mike-N-Go | ~RTFPN |
| 02:31.25 | purl | [rtfpn] read the fluffy patch notes |
| 02:31.44 | Mike-N-Go | purl, say Hello!! |
| 02:31.46 | purl | Hello!! |
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| 02:39.31 | Tem | What do you call it when you split a word across two lines by hyphenating? |
| 02:39.44 | Kaydeethree | hyphenation? |
| 02:41.05 | Tem | hmm, yes that seems to be correct |
| 02:41.16 | Tem | I need a way to turn it off for all words in my latex document |
| 02:41.51 | Kaydeethree | gah, I haven't touched LaTeX in years. couldn't tell ya |
| 02:46.50 | Tem | I've found an easy way to turn it off for specific words, but I'd rather not do it that way |
| 02:46.50 | Tem | I'd rather just say "don't do that" |
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| 03:22.31 | cladhaire | Tem: Tom's looking, one second. |
| 03:22.47 | Tem | oh sweet |
| 03:23.03 | Tem | I sorta looked, but my googlefu is weak when I'm on a deadline |
| 03:24.45 | cladhaire | Tem: \usepackage{hyphenat} |
| 03:24.50 | cladhaire | err maybe not |
| 03:24.52 | cladhaire | hold please :P |
| 03:24.55 | cladhaire | sioraiocht: YOU TELL HIM |
| 03:24.57 | cladhaire | GOD |
| 03:25.05 | cladhaire | I mean <3 |
| 03:25.24 | cladhaire | sioraiocht: is trying to find you the answer. |
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| 03:25.46 | GeoMance` | Well, that was fun. |
| 03:26.19 | sioraiocht | hey tem |
| 03:26.21 | sioraiocht | \raggedright |
| 03:26.23 | sioraiocht | should be good |
| 03:26.51 | sioraiocht | if not let me know |
| 03:27.01 | Tem | that looks like a one line command to me |
| 03:27.14 | sioraiocht | yeah will apply to the entire environment |
| 03:27.32 | Tem | okay |
| 03:27.33 | Tem | thanks |
| 03:27.44 | Tem | bah, I don't have any lines that are doing it now to test |
| 03:27.47 | Tem | oh well |
| 03:27.48 | Tem | thanks |
| 03:28.02 | sioraiocht | hahaha |
| 03:28.07 | sioraiocht | i'll test one of my papers, one sec |
| 03:29.17 | sioraiocht | no, that won't fix it, keep working i'll figure it out in a sec ;) |
| 03:32.32 | sioraiocht | tem: do you want it to be justified alignment with no hyphenation or left alignment with no hyphenation? |
| 03:32.49 | Tem | left alignment with no hyphenation |
| 03:33.58 | GeoMance` | In a FontString, is there a way to put a link to an item? |
| 03:34.34 | Tem | yes, but it won't be clickable |
| 03:34.40 | Tem | you need to use SimpleHTML for that |
| 03:34.41 | clad|sleep | \usepackage[htt]{hyphenat} ? |
| 03:35.27 | clad|sleep | Tem: That does what you want |
| 03:35.30 | clad|sleep | but it may have other side effects |
| 03:35.37 | Tem | heh |
| 03:35.38 | clad|sleep | so make sure you look at the final product =) |
| 03:35.45 | Tem | thanks |
| 03:35.52 | Tem | hopefully, I just won't need it |
| 03:36.28 | clad|sleep | wait.. sioraiocht lies again. |
| 03:36.53 | clad|sleep | play here: http://www.tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi?file=language/hyphen |
| 03:36.56 | clad|sleep | goodnight =) |
| 03:40.14 | sioraiocht | SUCCESS!! |
| 03:40.22 | sioraiocht | \usepackage[none]{hypenat} |
| 03:41.12 | Tem | ah |
| 03:41.12 | sioraiocht | tem, that will do it |
| 03:41.12 | Tem | thanks! |
| 03:41.16 | sioraiocht | great success |
| 03:41.17 | sioraiocht | lol |
| 03:48.08 | GeoMance` | If you have a frame in a table, and you make that table a saved variable, does it save the frame? |
| 03:49.31 | Iriel | no |
| 03:50.25 | GeoMance` | Alright, that's good. |
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| 04:12.34 | GeoMance` | Metatables. |
| 04:13.06 | Cairenn|afk | same to you with a bug on it! |
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| 04:13.56 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk == weird |
| 04:14.02 | Cairenn|afk | not news |
| 04:14.06 | Thunder_Child | true |
| 04:15.27 | Legorol | I have noticed one comment in the Q&A with Tigole etc., they said that "2.1.0 will go live and I think there are *many* significant changes to help with raid progression issues. If raid progression is still a problem after 2.1.0, we'll make further changes" |
| 04:15.36 | Legorol | does anyone know what these changes are that help with raid progression? |
| 04:22.00 | nymbia | mostly boss tuning i think |
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| 04:56.20 | AnduinLothar | Legorol: epic coificient was buffed. all epics were buffed |
| 04:56.44 | AnduinLothar | including many from KZ |
| 04:57.19 | Legorol | what's "epic coefficient"? |
| 04:57.35 | Legorol | i know the items themselves that drop in Kara were buffed a bit, how does that help progression? |
| 04:58.10 | AnduinLothar | you get higher stats for the same item lvl on epics |
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| 04:58.20 | Legorol | ok |
| 04:58.27 | AnduinLothar | so as you gear your raid you can progress faster |
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| 04:59.39 | AnduinLothar | because peopel were complaining KZ was too hard for the loots that were equivelent to blues |
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| 05:44.01 | Tem | what the... |
| 05:44.08 | Tem | Playing with frost spec on the PTR |
| 05:44.17 | Tem | I just got an Essence of Air drop from the air guys in SMV |
| 05:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 05:45.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | essences drop from elementals now |
| 05:45.24 | Tem | ... why? |
| 05:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm...not sure |
| 05:45.34 | Thunder_Child | because the wow devs were bored |
| 05:45.36 | GeoMance` | Why not? |
| 05:46.00 | Tem | because now that they drop again, there might be uses for them |
| 05:46.04 | Tem | which would put me in a bad mood |
| 05:46.10 | Tem | I love the new primal mote system |
| 05:46.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 05:46.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | there kinda are uses for them |
| 05:46.17 | Tem | farming essences sucked hardcore |
| 05:46.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | how is farming motes any different |
| 05:46.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 05:47.01 | Tem | because the motes drop at a higher rate |
| 05:47.07 | Tem | you are less likely to get a bad string of luck |
| 05:47.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 05:47.19 | Tem | Consider this: |
| 05:47.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess |
| 05:47.27 | Tem | Essence droprate was roughly 5% |
| 05:47.37 | Tem | er |
| 05:47.40 | Tem | not even that high |
| 05:47.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got like 3 essences of air in 5 minutes several times when going to to silithus |
| 05:48.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't say that's happened with primals |
| 05:48.09 | Tem | yeah, and how many more times did you spend several hours where you never got any? |
| 05:48.17 | Tem | that's what the mote system stops |
| 05:48.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | not often, because i only grind 30 mins at a time at the most :p |
| 05:48.24 | Tem | it makes the rate of farming more constant |
| 05:48.43 | Thunder_Child | but they uped the rates for essances |
| 05:48.46 | Thunder_Child | upped* |
| 05:48.51 | Tem | yes, you miss out on the freak accidents of probability where you get several drops in a row |
| 05:49.00 | Tem | but you also lose the chance to get a long string of no drops |
| 05:49.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | those seemed to happen every time i went to silithus for air :p |
| 05:49.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess i was just lucky |
| 05:52.40 | Tem | well, I can rely on being able to farm the expensive bits of a primal might in a short amount of time because of the mote system |
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| 05:57.17 | Shadowed | Tem: You still need old-world mats in TBC |
| 05:57.19 | Shadowed | ESsences are used in stuff like 15 AGI enchants |
| 05:57.20 | Tem | for like, what? |
| 05:57.22 | Tem | weak |
| 05:57.25 | Shadowed | 15 AGI to gloves requires 4 essences of air |
| 05:59.32 | Tem | well then |
| 05:59.32 | Tem | I should get rid of my old world stockpile before prices drop |
| 05:59.33 | Shadowed | how do you plan on doing that |
| 05:59.33 | Shadowed | you waited until the last second :p |
| 05:59.33 | GeoMance` | Crap. I need to think up what else I need for what I'm working on. >.< |
| 05:59.33 | Thrae | I always knew those gloves were full of hot air! |
| 06:00.06 | Thrae | I guess it also makes sense you need lots of "Essence of Earth", or Dirt, to make the "[Thong of the Believer]". Unfortunately, it has a male version too. |
| 06:01.38 | GeoMance` | That's bad. |
| 06:02.54 | GeoMance` | Heh. |
| 06:03.35 | GeoMance` | Is there anyway to pull a link out of a text string, like what you get when you receive a "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL" event? |
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| 06:04.48 | Thrae | GeoMance`: Yes, the link comes in as clear text, the default UI converts it to a link. |
| 06:05.28 | GeoMance` | How does the conversion happen? |
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| 06:47.01 | Tert | I've got a question: how many addons do you think this patch is gonna break? none? |
| 06:48.35 | Thunder_Child | 16.5 |
| 06:48.45 | Tem | I've got my money on 42 |
| 06:49.50 | Thunder_Child | see you can tell Tem is tired when he cant even flame properly |
| 06:50.02 | Thunder_Child | s/see/see,/ |
| 06:50.07 | Tert | I just mean how many major changes have been made |
| 06:50.17 | Tem|Sleep | RTFPN |
| 06:50.28 | Thunder_Child | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
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| 06:57.17 | foxlit | "Enabling and disabling buttons is now protected functionality and may not be called on secure frames while in combat, as of 2.1.2. " :/ |
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| 07:12.50 | Esamynn | foxlit: do you really find that surprising? |
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| 07:13.37 | nevcairiel | i would've hoped they stop that button click exploit in another way |
| 07:13.47 | Esamynn | like? |
| 07:14.03 | nevcairiel | just dont allow /click on disabled buttons ? :P |
| 07:15.28 | Esamynn | disabling in a button while in combat stops the player from clicking it, and shouldn't be something you're doing anyways |
| 07:16.12 | nevcairiel | i use it in bartender3 for empty buttons so that the mouseover animation doesnt toggle, and that the pushed texture doesnt toggle if you click on the empty space |
| 07:16.40 | nevcairiel | since i cannot :Hide() them in combat either |
| 07:16.51 | Esamynn | the fact that that functionality wasn't already protected very must surprises me |
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| 07:43.50 | foxlit | I'd rather have /click not respect the disabled state |
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| 08:41.35 | foxlit | 32, 64, 128 bit keys passed the test. |
| 08:41.54 | foxlit | If it works on proper numbers, I'm going to kill a level 1 kitten in Elewynn. |
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| 08:50.50 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: did you manage to get the new BG d/l'er to work from Launcher in Wine? I still fail :( Having to boot to Win32 /wrist |
| 08:56.05 | Bleeter | hmm, and now patching PTR from 6678->6692, hangs on 'Waiting for files to close' |
| 09:01.59 | Bleeter | ok, just finished.. panic over ;) |
| 09:03.01 | JunkHead-Work | I got my herbalism to 242 Just now.:) |
| 09:03.10 | JunkHead-Work | I was shooting for 240 but did better! |
| 09:03.53 | Bleeter | actually, no, it just looked like it'd worked :/ |
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| 09:21.19 | Bleeter | nope, it was the app hanging and not flashing 'waiting for files to close' that threw me.. it still failed. Re-doing the entire PTR patch cycle to re-test |
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| 09:21.35 | Bleeter | really annoying, it worked fine when I took a quick look on the weekend |
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| 09:25.54 | JunkHead-Work | Well, my server is down now. |
| 09:26.05 | JunkHead-Work | I got the super extended maintenance.:( |
| 09:32.10 | foxlit | This code is taking so long to execute that I'm already done with a few performance updates, but it's still only halfway done calculating :( |
| 09:32.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:33.51 | foxlit | By the looks of it, will take around ~1800s of processor time to execute |
| 09:34.30 | [dRaCo] | wth are you calculating? |
| 09:36.40 | foxlit | http://foxlit.pastey.net/37756 |
| 09:37.44 | [dRaCo] | uh. |
| 09:38.27 | [dRaCo] | what's that exactly except some really big numbers? |
| 09:39.02 | foxlit | The meaning of life. Try to see if it == 42 |
| 09:39.18 | foxlit | Just really big numbers at this point |
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| 09:44.00 | Bleeter | foxlit: what do you get if you multiply six by nine! |
| 09:44.33 | foxlit | 36 |
| 09:45.07 | Bleeter | s/\!/\?/ |
| 09:45.09 | foxlit | I seem to recall something about base 13 |
| 09:45.24 | Bleeter | yar, do 6x9 in base 13 |
| 09:45.32 | Bleeter | although Adams said that was pure coincidence |
| 09:46.29 | Bleeter | hang on, 6x9!=36 in b10! :P |
| 09:46.38 | Bleeter | unless this coffee's finally got to me :/ |
| 09:47.11 | foxlit | It's base 16. |
| 09:47.34 | foxlit | 6*9=54 |
| 09:47.41 | Bleeter | heh, my brain was up to trying it in b14 :P |
| 09:47.51 | Bleeter | shoulda guess ;) |
| 09:47.55 | Bleeter | ed |
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| 09:53.07 | Bleeter | hmm, a few posts in the PTR forum saying final patch is sticking @ 99% |
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| 10:07.17 | foxlit | 2048 bit key pass. |
| 10:07.21 | foxlit | I'm done! |
| 10:07.50 | nevcairiel | how long did it take? |
| 10:10.30 | foxlit | 1850s of coroutine.resume |
| 10:11.53 | foxlit | Good part is that about 1849s of that is a one-time cost; only 1s is the actual consumer requirement |
| 10:13.04 | foxlit | Bad part is that it still takes too damn long. |
| 10:14.46 | foxlit | Looks like the optimized version is going to take ~1000s. Problem is, I can't take that as a block of x minutes, have to split it across frames to keep wow semi-alive |
| 10:19.05 | nymbia | apologies for being lazy and not reading up, but why's that need to be calculated in-game? |
| 10:19.06 | foxlit | It's the RSA signature algorithm |
| 10:19.58 | foxlit | The idea is that for a unique keypair, (n, e, d) and a numeric message value, m, you can do: c = m ^ d (mod n); m' = c ^ e (mod n); m' == m |
| 10:20.29 | foxlit | (e is comparatively small, d is comparatively large) |
| 10:21.11 | foxlit | Having (n,e) c and m allows you to verify that the c came from someone who knows d - and finding d from n,e,c,d is computationally hard |
| 10:21.31 | foxlit | s/n,e,c,d/n,e,c,m/ |
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| 10:22.06 | foxlit | Therefore, if the signature matches, you can be certain that the message was signed by a particular private key, which should be held by a single person. |
| 10:23.12 | foxlit | Which allows distribution of addon updated in-game, even on servers the addons' authors don't play on (the author's presence is not required to verify the validity of an update he signed). |
| 10:25.48 | foxlit | ~seen Shirik |
| 10:26.19 | purl | shirik <n=nospam@mckay32-75.resnet.db.erau.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 8h 16m 38s ago, saying: 'it helps to use the right test case'. |
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| 10:40.54 | Nom- | patch day? |
| 10:41.31 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 10:44.04 | Nom- | yay and not yay at the same timeay |
| 10:44.13 | Nom- | yay coz free respec |
| 10:44.21 | Nom- | not yay coz i finally got a night where i don't have to work |
| 10:44.23 | clad|sleep | ? who's getting a respec? |
| 10:44.31 | Nom- | Paladin |
| 10:44.31 | foxlit | No free cheese! |
| 10:44.43 | Nom- | They'll have to, they've revamped the whole skill tree (again) |
| 10:44.51 | clad|sleep | they did? |
| 10:44.52 | clad|sleep | O.o |
| 10:44.57 | Nom- | for paladin, yea |
| 10:45.03 | Nom- | There's new talents in Protection |
| 10:45.03 | clad|sleep | what happened other than the Illumination change? |
| 10:45.03 | nevcairiel | accodring to the patch notes they dont :o |
| 10:45.13 | Nom- | They've changed the balance in Holy |
| 10:45.21 | Nom- | and there's new talents in Retribution |
| 10:45.21 | clad|sleep | did they change the _shape_ of the tree? |
| 10:45.26 | Nom- | Yes |
| 10:45.28 | clad|sleep | new talents does not mean respec |
| 10:45.36 | Nom- | They've actually added a whole new talent |
| 10:45.50 | nevcairiel | generally it says in the patch notes when you get a respec |
| 10:45.54 | nevcairiel | nothing in there |
| 10:45.56 | Bleeter | pretty sure I saw some blue post saying no respec |
| 10:46.09 | Nom- | hmm that's rather interesting then |
| 10:46.12 | clad|sleep | they definitely said no respec |
| 10:46.13 | clad|sleep | for anyone |
| 10:46.24 | clad|sleep | and i'll be PISSED if paladins get and rogues dont' |
| 10:46.35 | clad|sleep | considering every rogue in their right mind spcced to imp sap, and no longer needs to. |
| 10:46.51 | Nom- | dunno how they're going ot do that tho |
| 10:46.52 | nevcairiel | our rogues didnt spec that |
| 10:46.55 | nevcairiel | it doesnt do dmg in raids. |
| 10:47.01 | Nom- | Coz i thinkt hey removed a talent from paladin |
| 10:47.05 | Nom- | and added a new one! |
| 10:47.08 | clad|sleep | no, but it does CC in heroics. |
| 10:47.15 | clad|sleep | and many people spec that way for that reason a lone |
| 10:48.04 | nevcairiel | i dont think there will be a respec for anyone either |
| 10:48.36 | Nom- | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html |
| 10:48.46 | Nom- | Next to Holy Sheild, there's now an improved holy shield |
| 10:49.02 | foxlit | That doesn't really warrant a respec :P |
| 10:49.07 | clad|sleep | no it doesn't. |
| 10:49.16 | clad|sleep | that doesn't change the shape of the tree |
| 10:49.30 | Nom- | I think they removed a talent too tho |
| 10:49.33 | Nom- | i'm trying to find the page i saw it |
| 10:49.48 | nevcairiel | they refund you that points from the talent they removed |
| 10:50.06 | Nom- | That'll be ok i suppose |
| 10:50.10 | Nom- | but still a little harsh |
| 10:50.35 | Nom- | They actually changed retribution to the point where it's viable raid dps |
| 10:50.36 | Nom- | It's scary |
| 10:51.00 | clad|sleep | i'll believe it when I see it =) |
| 10:51.02 | JunkHead-Work | I'd like to know, since they changed Illumination from 100% to 60%, does it still take 5 talent points to get 60%? |
| 10:51.27 | foxlit | It so should! |
| 10:51.49 | clad|sleep | shadow weaving still takes 5 points |
| 10:51.50 | clad|sleep | so yes. |
| 10:51.51 | clad|sleep | eff paladins. |
| 10:51.56 | Nom- | # |
| 10:51.57 | Nom- | # New Protection Talent added: Improved Holy Shield, 2 ranks: Increases damage caused by Holy Shield by 10/20% and increases the number of charges of Holy Shield by 2/4. |
| 10:52.28 | clad|sleep | Nom-: yes.. they didn't remove a talent |
| 10:52.30 | clad|sleep | just gave you a new one. |
| 10:52.34 | clad|sleep | no respec |
| 10:52.36 | clad|sleep | =) |
| 10:52.45 | Nom- | ah they didn't remove it yeah |
| 10:52.52 | Nom- | that sucks then |
| 10:53.04 | Nom- | i have to pull more points out of holy to get that talent |
| 10:53.15 | Nom- | coz i don't think the reduced the points on anything else |
| 10:53.20 | clad|sleep | well, rogues have to as well |
| 10:53.22 | clad|sleep | :P |
| 10:53.23 | clad|sleep | so nyeh |
| 10:53.23 | Bleeter | Nom-: less qq more pewpew :P |
| 10:53.27 | clad|sleep | indeed. |
| 10:53.43 | clad|sleep | you're a paladin, i cry *this* much for you :P |
| 10:54.03 | Bleeter | Nom-: you think you got problems? I can't get *any* of the patches, live or PTR, to work as expected... :/ |
| 10:54.20 | Nom- | Well, I was only on the PTR briefly |
| 10:54.21 | Bleeter | so I'm redoing the whole d/l fundom |
| 10:54.25 | Nom- | and the live patch isn't working atm |
| 10:54.43 | Bleeter | hmm, I was told it was at least applying the patch to the live game |
| 10:54.50 | Bleeter | maybe I was informed wrong |
| 10:54.52 | Nom- | Nah, i don't think so |
| 10:55.02 | Nom- | Coz if you load WoW.exe it doesn't even detect there's a patch |
| 10:55.58 | clad|sleep | load the launcher |
| 10:55.58 | Bleeter | yup, same here.. dunno |
| 10:56.02 | clad|sleep | simple as that |
| 10:56.06 | Nom- | Just as well my guild is letting me go holy |
| 10:56.14 | Bleeter | clad|sleep: I *am* using the launcher |
| 10:56.25 | Nom- | Don't have to sacrifice my improved bow |
| 10:56.31 | Nom- | clad|sleep: Doesn't work in laucnher or game |
| 10:56.35 | clad|sleep | well you said if you load WoW.exe it doesn't detect there is a patch |
| 10:56.39 | clad|sleep | WoW.exe isn't launcher |
| 10:56.44 | clad|sleep | err maybe it is on windows |
| 10:56.47 | clad|sleep | they did just change that |
| 10:56.48 | clad|sleep | 8shruG* |
| 10:56.51 | clad|sleep | i'm downloaded and patched |
| 10:56.53 | Bleeter | clad|sleep: and as far as the last PTR patch goes, Wine's hanging on 'closing files', so I'm trying to get them all reloaded again |
| 10:57.03 | clad|sleep | oh boo |
| 10:57.08 | clad|sleep | thats no fun |
| 10:57.24 | Bleeter | clad|sleep: yeah, from launcher -> game, the WoW.exe launches, just inside that there's none of the 'update avail' screen |
| 10:57.42 | Nom- | Vengeance (Retribution) now increases Holy and Physical damage by 1/2/3/4/5% for 15 seconds following a critical hit, but the effect now stacks up to 3 times. |
| 10:57.42 | Bleeter | the launcher's saying patch data is avail |
| 10:57.56 | Bleeter | clad|sleep: yeah, the PTR/Wine thing's a bit of a worry, all worked fine right up until the final patch |
| 10:57.58 | clad|sleep | Nom-: again, just an effect change. |
| 10:59.07 | Nom- | yah, i know, but that's a nice talent :) |
| 10:59.08 | Nom- | 15% more damage, yes plz |
| 10:59.08 | clad|sleep | indeed |
| 10:59.08 | clad|sleep | damn critadins |
| 10:59.08 | Bleeter | well, for various definitions of 'fine'... from memory, other WoW Winers couldn't get the BG downloader to run properly without grabbing it from a Win32 download ;) |
| 10:59.08 | Nom- | i gotta start working on ret and tank gear |
| 10:59.08 | Nom- | i got nearly full epix on my pally now for ehaling |
| 10:59.10 | Bleeter | actually, hmm, I wonder.. someone earlier mentioned UPnP support in the downloader now... that could maybe be causing probs. |
| 10:59.24 | Bleeter | anyways, dinner and TV time right now, bbiab |
| 10:59.46 | Nom- | ah nice i logged out on my healing gear :D |
| 10:59.50 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Innominata |
| 10:59.55 | Nom- | so close to an awesome set :) |
| 11:00.37 | JunkHead-Work | My healing set is starting to look nice now too. I just need enchants and stuff. |
| 11:00.43 | Nom- | i got 3 items frm kara last night |
| 11:00.50 | Nom- | the belt, chest plate and a shield which isn't showing up |
| 11:00.55 | Nom- | (it's a tnaking shield) |
| 11:01.02 | clad|sleep | my shadow priest is a sad panda |
| 11:01.04 | clad|sleep | however |
| 11:01.15 | clad|sleep | i'll be fine come tonight |
| 11:01.18 | Nom- | i really want to get rid of those cursed tree shoulders tho |
| 11:01.23 | clad|sleep | when i can respec shadowcloth |
| 11:01.26 | Nom- | cow shoulders ftl :( |
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| 11:01.46 | JunkHead-Work | I need new shoulders too. |
| 11:02.01 | JunkHead-Work | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Sinessa |
| 11:02.12 | JunkHead-Work | But it's starting to look ok. |
| 11:02.23 | Nom- | the plate shoulders never seem to drop for me |
| 11:02.41 | JunkHead-Work | I really need new bracers though.:( |
| 11:03.01 | JunkHead-Work | I can't find any though. I can't even find any crap greens on the AH better than mine. |
| 11:03.14 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: Get the healing thread on your pants |
| 11:03.52 | Nom- | I don't have the gold to get mine, otherwise I would have it :( |
| 11:03.52 | JunkHead-Work | I bet that shit is expensive thoughh. |
| 11:03.52 | JunkHead-Work | I'm still saving for epic flying mount.:( |
| 11:03.52 | Nom- | bracers drop from Moroes I think |
| 11:03.56 | Nom- | it's about 75g on my server |
| 11:03.57 | JunkHead-Work | Once I get that out of the way, I will work on enchants and such. |
| 11:04.02 | JunkHead-Work | Oh! |
| 11:04.04 | Nom- | 350 for the epic one, but that only has a few more healing |
| 11:04.05 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm... |
| 11:04.08 | foxlit | Just farm the 5 motes of life? |
| 11:04.09 | Bleeter | Nom-: run the lancher again, my b/g d/l'ers decided to re-download wow-partial-2.MPQ |
| 11:04.13 | foxlit | *primals |
| 11:04.30 | JunkHead-Work | 75g is a bit high for me now, but it's lot cheaper than I was thinking. |
| 11:04.38 | Bleeter | actually, tell a lie.. BNUpdate.exe and wow-final.MPQ |
| 11:04.38 | Nom- | Yeah, just farm some primals |
| 11:04.39 | JunkHead-Work | I was scared you wree gonna say like 300g or something. |
| 11:04.42 | Nom- | It's 5 primal life |
| 11:04.48 | JunkHead-Work | That's not bad then. |
| 11:05.08 | foxlit | life is evil to farm, though |
| 11:05.15 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24275 |
| 11:05.19 | JunkHead-Work | Zangermarsh is good for that right? |
| 11:05.31 | Nom- | Yeah, get herbalism |
| 11:05.36 | Nom- | Kill the bog lord things |
| 11:05.45 | JunkHead-Work | My herbalist isn't high enough for outland yet.:( |
| 11:05.46 | Nom- | i was getting 1-3 motes of every other kill the other day |
| 11:05.55 | JunkHead-Work | Sweet. |
| 11:06.06 | JunkHead-Work | I oculd kill bog lords, I could do that for rep. |
| 11:06.13 | Bleeter | I was getting about the same |
| 11:06.15 | Nom- | gonna take my mage there and farm it soon |
| 11:06.30 | Nom- | mage just got level 65... in fact i'd be there right now if not for downtime tonight |
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| 11:06.36 | Bleeter | heh, I was using it to level one of my pets I hadn't touched since lvl 60 |
| 11:06.56 | Nom- | hmm the epic version is actually more effective than i thought |
| 11:06.58 | Nom- | +66 healing |
| 11:07.00 | JunkHead-Work | My herbalist is only lvl 51.:( |
| 11:07.11 | Nom- | that's 10 x Primal Life, 1 x Primal Nether |
| 11:07.33 | JunkHead-Work | You are still speaking of the pants thread? |
| 11:07.40 | JunkHead-Work | +66 to pants for those mats you listed? |
| 11:08.24 | Nom- | +66 = 10 x Primal Life, 1 x Primal Nether |
| 11:08.41 | Nom- | +46 = 5 x Primal Life |
| 11:08.54 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24276 |
| 11:09.00 | Nom- | That's the epic version :) |
| 11:09.05 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm... |
| 11:09.24 | Bleeter | Nom-: 2.1.0 just started applying here |
| 11:09.33 | Nom- | Bleeter: Still not working for me atm |
| 11:09.37 | Nom- | Trying again |
| 11:09.47 | Nom- | Connections must be full to the server or something |
| 11:09.52 | Bleeter | Nom-: it's the anti .au league ;) |
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| 11:11.10 | Nom- | ah there we go |
| 11:11.13 | Nom- | got the update ingame no problem |
| 11:11.18 | Nom- | The launcher is just a POS i guess |
| 11:11.37 | Nom- | 97% ... rockin' |
| 11:11.49 | Bleeter | hey, at least it's an improved POS over earlier Blizz attempts :P |
| 11:14.59 | foxlit | 1100s to sign, 7.8s to verify, coroutine-time. |
| 11:16.00 | foxlit | Virtually no garbage generation too; looks like I need a different approach to BigNums if I want to make it any faster. |
| 11:16.08 | Nom- | omg |
| 11:16.10 | Nom- | *drool* |
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| 11:16.14 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18582 |
| 11:16.21 | JunkHead-Work | Ok, Blizzard Downloader started. |
| 11:16.48 | krka | how are you representing big nums foxlit? |
| 11:16.50 | Nom- | that weapon is so awesome |
| 11:16.58 | Nom- | Equip: Consumed by the fury of Illidan: 1400 attack power bonus versus Demons. 20% bonus chance to hit. 30% melee haste. |
| 11:17.53 | foxlit | Lua-based BigNum library. |
| 11:18.10 | foxlit | It stores them as segments of a base10 number |
| 11:19.13 | foxlit | so 123456789012345678 would be something like bignum = {[0] = 3456789, [1] = 6789012, [2] = 12345} |
| 11:19.50 | foxlit | s/{[0] = 3456789, [1] = 6789012, [2] = 12345}/{[2] = 12345, [1] = 6789012, [0] = 3456789} |
| 11:19.53 | Nom- | hmm are those twin blades actually available now? |
| 11:20.05 | Nom- | The stats are actually not so over-the-top any more |
| 11:21.11 | foxlit | +150 Intellect ? |
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| 11:24.12 | Nom- | yah but it no longer looks like a GM weapon |
| 11:24.16 | Nom- | most of those I see have 1000+dps |
| 11:25.24 | foxlit | close |
| 11:25.32 | foxlit | but not quite |
| 11:25.36 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18582 |
| 11:26.06 | Nom- | oh there we go |
| 11:26.13 | Kaso | ah |
| 11:26.13 | Nom- | right hand side "Not available to players" |
| 11:26.22 | Nom- | that clears that up :P |
| 11:26.53 | Kaso | But on wowhead items with that are just manually tagged by Skoisis arent they? |
| 11:27.35 | Kaso | or however you spell his name >.< |
| 11:28.23 | Nom- | We'll have to wait and see I guess |
| 11:28.44 | Kaso | i suspect they may do something like they did with ashbringer, give us something related to it but not it |
| 11:29.37 | Nom- | yeah well i was just pondering |
| 11:29.43 | Nom- | the stats aren't *that* insane |
| 11:29.46 | Nom- | if you think about it |
| 11:29.59 | Nom- | I've seen epics with +45 stamina etc |
| 11:30.09 | Nom- | And we've talking about not the next level up, but the level after that |
| 11:30.12 | phyber | anyone know of a nice page detailing how to create a Vertical statusbar? I'd prefer that I didn't have to look at other peoples addons and guess what they were smoking at the time :) |
| 11:30.45 | Nom- | I mean, you sure as hell wouldn't want to get in the way of someone with that puppy |
| 11:30.55 | Kaso | Nom-, the problem is that item follows none of the item-values rules, its set as item level 100 but those stats are nearer 300 or something |
| 11:30.55 | Nom- | but still it's not that insane... |
| 11:30.59 | JoshBorke | phyber: SetOrientation("VERTICAL")? |
| 11:31.14 | phyber | JoshBorke: oh, that simple? awesome :) |
| 11:31.17 | Nom- | Kaso: item value rules based on epics tho |
| 11:32.01 | Nom- | maybe artifact is an ilevel divisor |
| 11:32.30 | Kaso | perhaps that is true |
| 11:33.07 | Nom- | guess we'll have to wait and see :) |
| 11:35.41 | Nom- | It's going to be interesting to try Karazhan this week |
| 11:35.48 | Nom- | We just had every boss on farm this week gone |
| 11:36.44 | Nom- | one-shotted Attumen right through the Netherspite, Prince and Nightbane |
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| 11:46.11 | JunkHead-Work | Ok cool. Applying patch now. |
| 11:51.13 | zenzelezz | did 2.1 hit? |
| 11:51.18 | JunkHead-Work | This computer is taking forever. |
| 11:51.20 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah. |
| 11:51.21 | JoshBorke | zenzelezz: yes- |
| 11:51.27 | zenzelezz | sweet |
| 11:51.32 | JunkHead-Work | Blizzard Updater is going ridiculously slow.:( |
| 11:51.42 | JoshBorke | i can't wait to start profiling my code |
| 11:51.44 | zenzelezz | what else is new |
| 11:51.49 | JoshBorke | i'm too lazy to have jumped onto the PTR |
| 11:52.32 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 11:52.41 | JunkHead-Work | That "should" have everything now. |
| 11:53.43 | JoshBorke | i'll post it |
| 11:55.02 | JunkHead-Work | The wow-final.MPQ is 6,303KB |
| 11:55.22 | JoshBorke | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com/Patch.html |
| 11:56.30 | zenzelezz | Inspect distance has been increased to 30 yards (from 10 yards). -- isn't that nearly reverting it to pre-nerf? |
| 11:57.21 | JunkHead-Work | Don't know. But I almost crapped myself when they said that when you get items from mail, they will auto stack! |
| 11:57.36 | zenzelezz | woot! |
| 11:57.37 | JunkHead-Work | Little things like that are so nice. |
| 11:57.44 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 11:58.01 | zenzelezz | Dodge Rating: Low level players now calculate dodge from dodge rating at the same rate as level 34 players. <-- "take that, twinks"? |
| 11:58.01 | JunkHead-Work | Oh and spells will use mats from the smallest stack now. |
| 11:58.30 | JunkHead-Work | So now after I make myself my food/water on my mage, when I dirnk it won't use stuff from the full stacks until the small stacks are gone. |
| 11:58.53 | JunkHead-Work | It sucks making like.. 43 water and whever you drink it takes a water from your full stack. |
| 11:58.58 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.26 | JunkHead-Work | I'm also happy that fishing will take less time. Maybe now I can actually get done with it. |
| 12:02.02 | JunkHead-Work | Wtf?? |
| 12:02.27 | JunkHead-Work | Ok the updater just got done, I clicked ok. |
| 12:02.46 | JunkHead-Work | And in the middle of my screen, a little white box with the WoW burning crusade logo popped up for a few seconds. |
| 12:02.53 | JunkHead-Work | Then it went away, and wow opened. |
| 12:03.01 | JunkHead-Work | I've never seen that happen before. |
| 12:04.25 | zenzelezz | Hunter's Mark: This ability now becomes stronger each time the target is struck by a ranged attack. -- I still find this interesting |
| 12:04.55 | JunkHead-Work | Wonder what the limit is on that. |
| 12:06.40 | zenzelezz | Bonus healing gear will no longer effect Mend Pet. -- this wil ruin a long-standing joke in my old guild :-( |
| 12:06.50 | zenzelezz | "give to ... for Mend Pet" "STFU!!" |
| 12:12.21 | Bleeter | JunkHead-Work: that's the 'new' launcher. If at the login screen, you check the 'show launcher', you get the old launcher. |
| 12:12.42 | JunkHead-Work | Ah, I wasn't aware of a new launcher. |
| 12:12.55 | Bleeter | or, probably more correctly, that small white screen is the mini-launcher screen while it checks for hacks, etc. or whatever it does ;) |
| 12:13.15 | JunkHead-Work | That's kidna what i thought. |
| 12:13.21 | JunkHead-Work | It's like a pre-launcher. |
| 12:13.23 | Bleeter | my *guess* might be that when they push new patch data or something, one gets the old launcher screen |
| 12:13.29 | JunkHead-Work | Kinda like the windows hourglass. |
| 12:13.48 | zenzelezz | white windows usually mean they're not using a second thread for their message loop that repaints the window ;-o |
| 12:13.55 | Bleeter | yar... I suspect many people bypassed the Launcher 'coz it was pretty much 'gtfo I just wanna play' |
| 12:14.13 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: or it's just a white background colour :P |
| 12:14.36 | zenzelezz | most people don't use a white background color anymore, but that is indeed a possibiity |
| 12:14.47 | zenzelezz | I haven't yet since this particular white window myself |
| 12:14.56 | zenzelezz | since = seen, wtf |
| 12:15.28 | Bleeter | so, I guess in theory, removing the big launcher screen and having a logo there will 'stop' new people digging around to avoid the old launcher screen so they can just skip straight to playing, if you get my drift |
| 12:15.46 | zenzelezz | typoing is one thing, but using a whole other word worries me |
| 12:15.52 | JunkHead-Work | Well, I only saw it after the patch installed. |
| 12:15.58 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: it's probably about 200x150 in size with the BC logo in the middle |
| 12:16.05 | JunkHead-Work | I don't remember if ti normally shows the launcher after that or not. |
| 12:16.13 | JunkHead-Work | I "think" it goes staright to WoW screen though. |
| 12:16.14 | Bleeter | 'window' is generous, more like 'logo splash' |
| 12:16.22 | zenzelezz | I know |
| 12:16.42 | zenzelezz | I was just being "funny" by taking it to a technical level |
| 12:16.53 | zenzelezz | I know I've sure done all sorts of messy things with my message loops :-| |
| 12:17.16 | JunkHead-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104526490&sid=1 |
| 12:17.27 | JunkHead-Work | Yet another "Make the old grind easier" threads. |
| 12:17.46 | Bleeter | JunkHead-Work: I'm on Wine, so I've always bypassed the launcher. But my brain's kinda telling me that patches would even reset a modified desktop shortcut to point to Launcher, if one had changed it to WoW.exe |
| 12:18.15 | Bleeter | it's also late, so I could be wrong... also, I've been quite wrong before, so I wouldn't be suprised if I'm wrong again ;) |
| 12:18.15 | JunkHead-Work | Bleeter - I always used the Launcher, no reason really, I just did. |
| 12:18.20 | zenzelezz | I should finally get the replacement motherboard for my Linux box tomorrow... then I can finally try Wine again o_O Last time I failed horribly |
| 12:18.46 | Bleeter | I just hope I can get the PTR patches installed without a hang on closing files |
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| 12:26.40 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: it'd appear that generally, apart from setting the gxApi and SoundBuffers in the Config.wtf, WoW Wine either works or is a PITA ;) |
| 12:27.28 | zenzelezz | I'm not going to run WoW on that computer, it's my IRC/server computer =D Just thinking of running some special Windows programs like uTorrent on that box instead |
| 12:27.44 | zenzelezz | but last time I tried Wine (years and years ago) I couldn't seem to even get sol.exe running |
| 12:31.19 | zenzelezz | Revenge: This ability has been modified to do substantially more damage. The threat bonuses have been adjusted so that the threat generated remains relatively unchanged. -- cool, I'm DPS now! |
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| 12:37.41 | wobin | zenzelezz: I run WoW fine on wine |
| 12:38.45 | zenzelezz | I'm not questioning that, all I'm saying is I don't intend to do that =) My Linux box is a secondary computer, I still run Windows on the main one for VC++ and a bunch of games |
| 12:44.55 | zenzelezz | argh! Some neighbor is using some powertool a lot, and even though I know it I can't help occasionally looking at my computer fearing another fan has bust, or something of that kind |
| 12:45.07 | SunTiger | hehe |
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| 13:02.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, anyone looking for patch mirrors, the WoWWiki is holding up well today :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 13:04.34 | SunTiger | i'm afraid wowwiki won't live much longer Kirkburn|afk |
| 13:06.14 | foxlit | Ah, c'mon. There's the combined might of GlobalWikiPediaWorldDomination (tm) behind it! |
| 13:06.30 | foxlit | Bah, I need to work on that. |
| 13:08.32 | zenzelezz | the wiki doesn't host the patch, just lists mirrors (I believe) |
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| 13:17.32 | foxlit | What's the event that fires when you can accept a resurrect, use a soulstone or akhn, etc? |
| 13:18.58 | Bleeter | Kirkburn|afk: is wowwiki at a new host? I seem to recall passing through the # and it was being discussed. |
| 13:25.37 | zenzelezz | Shade of Aran will no longer cast Dragon's Breath. \o/ |
| 13:26.06 | zenzelezz | sort of sucked to run in, get Dragon's Breathed, burning all your melee and then get nuked to death |
| 13:28.09 | sysrage | somebody have the full patch notes on a website? |
| 13:28.32 | sysrage | they exactly the same as what's been on PTR notes for awhile? |
| 13:30.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, we have a new host :) |
| 13:30.34 | Kirkburn|afk | WoWWiki is now hosted (and owned) by Wikia |
| 13:35.11 | foxlit | owned, too? |
| 13:35.22 | foxlit | How can you _own_ a wiki? :) |
| 13:36.13 | foxlit | (I'd settle for someone telling me why SimpleHTML ignores italics altogether) |
| 13:36.38 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: how are you doing italics? |
| 13:36.43 | foxlit | <i> |
| 13:37.01 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: not supported |
| 13:37.07 | Josh_Borke | hell, bold and underline aren't supported |
| 13:37.09 | Bleeter | yay, finally managed to convince WoW to patch to 2.1.0 under Wine... |
| 13:37.11 | foxlit | qq |
| 13:37.22 | Kaso | Bleeter, what problems did you have? |
| 13:37.30 | Bleeter | something I noticed on PTR, though, which seems to be live, the only way to fully exit is to kill -9 |
| 13:37.32 | haste | I guess the Simple part has something to do with it |
| 13:37.32 | Josh_Borke | i BELIEVE, but don't KNOW, that SimpleHTML works by each line having a fontstring |
| 13:37.54 | Bleeter | Kaso: The BG downloader wouldn't spawn, let alone download anything |
| 13:38.13 | haste | Bleeter: Cedega has a similar problem, only that it crashes when you exit, and thus you get no cache |
| 13:38.31 | Shirik | hi |
| 13:38.42 | Bleeter | Kaso: and, as far as the final PTR patch went, I tried installing that and it hung with 'Closing Files' |
| 13:38.54 | Josh_Borke | which basically means you can only have it look like 4 different fonts |
| 13:39.02 | Bleeter | haste: ouch |
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| 13:39.59 | haste | I've killed myself by jumping outside thunderbluff, expecting my flying mount to load a couple of times :D |
| 13:40.10 | foxlit | Shirik: Guess what I messed up and spent 2 days chasing :) |
| 13:40.13 | haste | since I have to load every model every time I play, takes ages |
| 13:40.17 | Shirik | what's that? |
| 13:40.36 | Bleeter | hmm, ok, launch WoW inside a terminal, quitting via ^C after it hangs from pressing the 'Quit' button seems fine. |
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| 13:41.04 | foxlit | Bleeter: use the coroutine code to exit! |
| 13:41.19 | foxlit | (Not that your savedvariables will like that) |
| 13:41.39 | Bleeter | hehe |
| 13:42.20 | Shirik | rofl foxlit |
| 13:43.43 | foxlit | hex->BigNum conversion |
| 13:44.02 | Shirik | is that the whole reason it wasn't working? |
| 13:44.05 | foxlit | Was reading hex in 4-byte chuncks, multiplying by 256 per chunk before summing |
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| 13:44.15 | zenzelezz | oh man, my Panic macro will finally look proper with the #show conditionals |
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| 13:44.31 | foxlit | tolongnumber("100000000000") == 256 this morning was interesting |
| 13:45.40 | foxlit | Not sure if the version on pastey is the same, but the local version works fine. |
| 13:56.38 | Tem|Class | ... I don't believe this |
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| 13:58.02 | Shirik | I do |
| 13:58.13 | Tem|Class | I spent time last night writing that essay in latex, and the email I get back from the teacher is something like "I can't edit your document. Please resend it as a Word file" |
| 13:58.22 | Shirik | rofl. |
| 13:58.29 | Shirik | be happy |
| 13:58.34 | Shirik | we're required to submit documents in PDF |
| 13:58.43 | Tem|Class | I DID submit it as a pdf |
| 13:58.47 | Tem|Class | I prefer it that way |
| 13:58.56 | Shirik | he can't open a PDF? |
| 13:59.04 | Tem|Class | she wants to add comments! |
| 13:59.07 | Shirik | .. |
| 13:59.15 | Shirik | oh "I can't _edit_" |
| 13:59.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 13:59.59 | Tem|Class | I even went through the trouble of making a style file for the margins, line spacing and page numbers |
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| 14:00.33 | Tem|Class | however, I'm 99% sure you can add comments via some proprietary Adobe program |
| 14:00.45 | Tem|Class | which the university offers for free to staff |
| 14:00.45 | Shirik | O |
| 14:00.49 | Shirik | Yes you can |
| 14:00.54 | Shirik | In fact I think you can on reader |
| 14:00.59 | Shirik | though I don't know I use acrobat |
| 14:01.00 | Tem|Class | oh? |
| 14:01.05 | krka | send the latex source |
| 14:01.20 | Tem|Class | I did |
| 14:01.31 | Tem|Class | "This is completely unformated and unusable" |
| 14:02.54 | Shirik | ......... |
| 14:03.11 | Shirik | I think we have it easier here because |
| 14:03.11 | Tem|Class | yeah |
| 14:03.14 | Tem|Class | hence my "wtf" |
| 14:03.20 | Shirik | we switch between OSes all the time |
| 14:03.25 | Shirik | platform independence is required in my classes |
| 14:03.35 | Tem|Class | okay, gotta run so I'm not late |
| 14:03.37 | Shirik | hence why we use Acrobat |
| 14:03.39 | Shirik | take care |
| 14:03.40 | krka | ask her to copy paste it into word herself |
| 14:04.06 | krka | why should you have to reformat your document into word just because she's set on making notes in the document |
| 14:04.24 | Shirik | hey clad|work what's FUD? |
| 14:04.48 | Kaso | Tell her to print it out and buy a red pen |
| 14:05.20 | krka | fear, uncertainty, doubt |
| 14:05.30 | krka | l2google |
| 14:05.54 | Shirik | thank you krka |
| 14:06.03 | Shirik | minus the l2google |
| 14:06.05 | Tem|Class | Kaso, aparently the reason we have to submit it electronically is because her handwriting sucks |
| 14:06.09 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:06.22 | Shirik | Apparently your typewriting sucks! |
| 14:06.29 | Shirik | Go to class!! |
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| 14:06.41 | Tem|Class | I never claim to be a good speller |
| 14:07.40 | krka | "Fud, a Scottish colloquialism for vagina" |
| 14:07.42 | krka | O_o |
| 14:08.24 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:08.26 | Shirik | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 14:08.30 | Shirik | this is how I felt in physics a few years ago |
| 14:08.33 | Shirik | special relativity ftw |
| 14:09.42 | Shirik | so for skill gain messages |
| 14:09.49 | Shirik | does anyone else find it wierd that they're listed as "errors" ? |
| 14:09.55 | Shirik | ERR_SKILL_GAINED_S |
| 14:10.01 | Shirik | ERR_SKILL_UP_SI |
| 14:10.07 | zenzelezz | I suck at physics, but I like the quote from a physician; "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong" |
| 14:10.16 | zenzelezz | er, physicist |
| 14:10.24 | Shirik | for "You have gained the Blacksmithing skill" and "Your skill in Cooking has increased to 5934", respectively |
| 14:10.24 | zenzelezz | I also suck at English profession names |
| 14:11.07 | Shirik | ok question |
| 14:11.18 | Shirik | I'm trying to respond to the event "____ gains Spell Shield" |
| 14:11.23 | Shirik | which is a spell stolen buff (Gruul) |
| 14:11.38 | Shirik | that is a CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_xxx_BUFFS message |
| 14:11.52 | Shirik | At the time that event is fired and I receive that message, will GetPlayerBuff() return info on it? |
| 14:12.05 | Shirik | (I don't have an easy way of testing this otherwise I would) |
| 14:12.44 | foxlit | Hrm, interesting |
| 14:13.03 | foxlit | <Size x="5"/> and <Size><AbsDimension x="5"/></Size> aren't equivalent |
| 14:13.09 | Shirik | for some reason I have this feeling I have to delay a frame before I can detect it |
| 14:13.23 | Shirik | are they close? |
| 14:13.43 | foxlit | Don't know, don't do time-sensitive buff monitoring |
| 14:13.56 | foxlit | I just sort of generically toss UnitBuff at people every so often. |
| 14:14.20 | zenzelezz | how do those size things differ? |
| 14:14.21 | Kaso | cant you just check UNIT_AURA for the buff? |
| 14:15.21 | sysrage | rofl i didn't even notice the frostbite nerf last time i read the notes.. so not only do they make it break in 1/10th of a second cause somebody always crits before you can even get an ice lance off, but now it has diminishing returns.. blizz rocks |
| 14:16.22 | Shirik | Kaso: I'm an oldbie that didn't exist when I was learning that stuff >< |
| 14:16.29 | Shirik | so I never bothered to learn how to use it |
| 14:17.06 | Shirik | Kaso: How does that help though |
| 14:17.09 | zenzelezz | learning while you don't exist is an interesting concept |
| 14:17.16 | Shirik | reading up on it I don't see how it would make a difference |
| 14:17.20 | Shirik | I still don't get a time out of it |
| 14:17.36 | sysrage | zenz: ya i thought that was a neat trick too |
| 14:17.40 | Shirik | so the same thing applies - does GetPlayerBuff() show the buff at the time UNIT_AURA is fired? |
| 14:17.48 | Kaso | combat log messages can fire before UnitBuff() updates in my experience, but after a UNIT_AURA then UnitBuff will always be correct |
| 14:19.32 | Shirik | this post forces me to leave: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104497119&sid=1 |
| 14:19.36 | Shirik | I'm fed up with the forums today |
| 14:19.42 | Shirik | which doesn't surprise me it's a patch day I guess |
| 14:19.51 | zenzelezz | "I'm an oldbie that didn't exist" vs. "I'm an oldbie, that didn't exist" <-- quite a difference |
| 14:20.01 | Shirik|AFK | :)( |
| 14:20.02 | Shirik|AFK | :( |
| 14:20.12 | Shirik|AFK | technically that should be a semicolon btw |
| 14:20.16 | Shirik|AFK | not a comma |
| 14:20.38 | zenzelezz | that's possible, I'm not too familiar with when to use semicolons |
| 14:20.39 | Shirik|AFK | so =P |
| 14:20.43 | zenzelezz | but some pause/break |
| 14:20.54 | Shirik|AFK | those are two seperate thoughts |
| 14:21.02 | Shirik|AFK | not directly connected |
| 14:21.09 | Shirik|AFK | thus it should be a semicolon |
| 14:21.11 | Shirik|AFK | that's the easiest way I can put it |
| 14:21.17 | zenzelezz | makes sense |
| 14:22.00 | foxlit | Semicolons are for when your sentence is a complete trainwreck, but you don't want to stop at quite that point |
| 14:22.13 | Shirik|AFK | .. |
| 14:22.29 | zenzelezz | I used to think of them as a : with an added pause |
| 14:22.35 | zenzelezz | like when you're about to announce something |
| 14:22.38 | foxlit | : typically begins a list |
| 14:23.11 | Shirik|AFK | ; can be a list too, sorta |
| 14:23.27 | Shirik|AFK | but usually that's more of a trainwreck, like foxlit said |
| 14:23.30 | foxlit | ; is more of a list delimiter, though |
| 14:23.57 | Shirik|AFK | Anna has a Ford; Betty, the Chevy; Chris, the Dodge |
| 14:24.01 | haste | wikipedia is great for examples :3 |
| 14:24.44 | zenzelezz | not always |
| 14:24.44 | foxlit | "Look, I've already used several commas and I have no idea where I'm going (or how I got there), so just go back in the sentence and attempt to add what follows after me at every point where it fits" |
| 14:25.45 | zenzelezz | my sentences in essays back in school tended to be very long and packed with (weird comments in parentheses everywhere) |
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| 14:37.25 | Kaso | * Dodge Rating: Low level players now calculate dodge from dodge rating at the same rate as level 34 players. |
| 14:37.29 | Kaso | ha, amusing |
| 14:37.48 | Kaso | i wonder why they only did it for dodge rating |
| 14:40.02 | Corrodias | there was a video of a rogue with over 100% dodge soloing van cleef |
| 14:40.04 | Corrodias | level 10 |
| 14:40.23 | Corrodias | can't have that, now! |
| 14:40.45 | foxlit | They need to give some bosses overpower! |
| 14:40.48 | Kaso | yup, clearly the reasoning behind it, but why didnt they think "hmm other ratings might be in need of a nerf too" |
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| 14:44.08 | Kaso | * Hypothermia: If this debuff would prevent you from casting a spell on a given target, the button for that ability is now grayed out. |
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| 14:44.12 | Kaso | thats odd wording |
| 14:44.40 | zenzelezz | they use the same wording on the issue for a few other spells/abilities I think |
| 14:44.45 | foxlit | I guess they meant Forebearance and BoP |
| 14:45.04 | foxlit | Maybe PWS as well |
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| 14:55.00 | Kaydeethree | ah, the new launcher is neat. "Downloading the patch (__ KB)..." |
| 14:55.08 | Bleeter | I'm quite stunned at what they've done to the hunter's mark, and the new pet stuff. |
| 14:55.27 | Bleeter | as in, some time's been spent doing something new and creative. |
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| 14:56.19 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: watch out when exiting WoW in Wine... it'll hang, so ensure you logout so your SV's are saved, and not just quit via closing the window ;) |
| 14:56.40 | Bleeter | quit via the login screen will also hang |
| 14:57.22 | Bleeter | I beleive this was happening on PTR, dunno if you saw it there, just figured I'd warn you in case you'd missed it as you've been good to my Wining previously :) |
| 14:57.46 | sysrage | wining and dining? |
| 14:59.39 | Bleeter | haste was also saying that Cedega will just trash your SV's, tho I wasn't sure at which exit phase that occurred |
| 15:01.24 | haste | no, not the SV |
| 15:01.24 | Bleeter | s/phase/path/ .. ugh, tired |
| 15:01.24 | haste | only the clients cache |
| 15:01.24 | Bleeter | ah, sorry, yes, thanks for correction |
| 15:01.24 | haste | SV are saved correctly |
| 15:01.24 | haste | but playing without a cache lowers your FPS drasticly |
| 15:01.24 | haste | and it makes loading of models and such take ages |
| 15:01.24 | Bleeter | here's hoping we get some loving 2.1.1 ;) |
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| 15:02.30 | foxlit | Someone pester slouken for c-based BigNum library! |
| 15:02.30 | Kaydeethree | oh geez. they didn't fix the on-exit error? |
| 15:02.30 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.16 | Bleeter | ah, so it was well known then? ;) |
| 15:04.33 | Kaydeethree | it's been a problem for the last 3-4 builds on the PTR |
| 15:04.36 | dukeku | aren't there already arbitrary precision c libraries ;( |
| 15:04.55 | Bleeter | I guess, maybe, they didn't see it as critical |
| 15:05.25 | Bleeter | I'll just have to pester the forums until it's fixed :D |
| 15:05.44 | Bleeter | or, an even better idea... actually go to bed instead of talking about it |
| 15:05.46 | Bleeter | gnight all |
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| 15:15.41 | foxlit | dukeku: yes, there are :) |
| 15:16.02 | foxlit | Doing things in c gives better performance, though :P |
| 15:16.03 | Laric | haste is there any updates on ocd? got a version from early january i think |
| 15:17.09 | haste | nope |
| 15:17.44 | dukeku | yes, but aren't there preexisting libraries in c for that already :P |
| 15:18.13 | Laric | haste: you moved your addons to googlecode or something if I recall correctly.. whats the new address? |
| 15:19.00 | haste | Laric: http://code.google.com/p/wow-haste/ |
| 15:22.26 | foxlit | Can I somehow isolate a table from other addons entirely? |
| 15:23.12 | [Ammo] | foxlit: make it local to the file |
| 15:23.19 | [Ammo] | local mytable = {} |
| 15:23.24 | [Ammo] | then you can only access it from that lua file |
| 15:23.40 | foxlit | No getfenv/setfenv gets there? |
| 15:23.47 | [Ammo] | indeed |
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| 15:32.39 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | Patch Notes: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10074 |
| 15:34.36 | zenzelezz | woot |
| 15:39.01 | Cairenn | /tell shirik ping? |
| 15:39.09 | Cairenn | well that didn't work :p |
| 15:39.44 | zenzelezz | weird, isn't it |
| 15:40.05 | Kaydeethree | accept this 650KB upload, darn it |
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| 15:52.43 | GeoMance` | Patchy Watchy was a bear, patchy watchy had -some- hair. <.< |
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| 16:01.21 | GeoMance` | And don't make fun of his bald spots unless you want him to eat you. |
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| 16:05.24 | GeoMance` | Always remember, Math at 9 in the morning looks different from math at 3 in the morning. |
| 16:07.36 | foxlit | Really? |
| 16:09.16 | GeoMance` | I'm half asleep, and yes, really. |
| 16:09.31 | GeoMance` | Class is over, you on't have to go home, but you can't stay here. xD |
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| 16:19.20 | Tem|Class | hmm |
| 16:19.42 | Tem|Class | anyone know of a way to make pdflatex generated pdfs that can have commenting enabled? |
| 16:20.13 | Tem|Class | bah |
| 16:30.07 | GeoMance` | Still another hour and a half until the game comes back on, right? |
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| 16:33.04 | sysrage | for some of the servers yes.. some should already be up though |
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| 16:33.53 | Cide | no servers up right now |
| 16:34.01 | Shirik | Cide |
| 16:34.03 | Shirik | I see how it is |
| 16:34.06 | Shirik | say hi to clad|work and not me |
| 16:34.22 | Cide | you didn't say hi first :P |
| 16:34.24 | Cide | Hi, I'm Clad! Welcome to reality. |
| 16:35.09 | Cide | there! |
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| 16:35.27 | Cide | better, Shirik|Ecole?! |
| 16:35.57 | Punkie` | Guys, how do I find out the ID of a spell from the spellbook? ^^ |
| 16:36.06 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 16:36.07 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 |
| 16:36.29 | Cide | Punkie`: you don't :) |
| 16:36.34 | Cide | assuming "the ID" you're talking about is the spell id |
| 16:36.44 | Cide | as found on for example http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32375 |
| 16:36.44 | Punkie` | But I need a spellID to use GetSpellCooldown :( |
| 16:36.49 | Cide | that's spell index |
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| 16:36.55 | Shirik|Ecole | aye |
| 16:36.58 | Shirik|Ecole | you want to run through them |
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| 16:37.04 | Shirik|Ecole | much like you do with GetPlayerBuff() |
| 16:37.11 | Shirik|Ecole | iirc |
| 16:37.25 | Cide | yep |
| 16:37.39 | Shirik|Ecole | been a while since I've used GetSpellCooldown() |
| 16:37.40 | Cide | semi-correct code |
| 16:37.54 | Punkie` | well, according to http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellCooldown it says spellID :S |
| 16:38.04 | Cide | that's spell index |
| 16:38.13 | Cide | same thing |
| 16:39.33 | Punkie` | so what is 32375 ? |
| 16:39.43 | Cide | totally irrelevant |
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| 16:40.05 | Punkie` | so I just need to count my way through the spellbook? |
| 16:40.09 | Cide | yes |
| 16:40.57 | Punkie` | Oh man, that's a lot of spells |
| 16:41.06 | Cide | for y = 1, GetNumSpellTabs() do local _, _, _, numSpells = GetSpellTabInfo(y); for i = 1, numSpells do if ( GetSpellName(i, BOOKTYPE_SPELL) == "Hunter's Mark" ) then return "Found Hunter's Mark at " .. i; end end end |
| 16:41.08 | Punkie` | But surely the result isn't going to be the same for everyone |
| 16:41.09 | Cide | for example |
| 16:41.12 | Punkie` | aha |
| 16:41.54 | Punkie` | ok, that's excellent, I can use that to make it so everyone can use this |
| 16:42.04 | Cide | yep |
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| 16:42.36 | Shirik|Ecole | you also can't entirely rely on it being the same every time |
| 16:42.44 | Shirik|Ecole | you can partially cache, but if they learn a new spell.... |
| 16:42.46 | Shirik|Ecole | etc. |
| 16:43.09 | Punkie` | kind of a silly way to do it if you ask me |
| 16:43.29 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide I asked this question earlier Kaso gave me half an answer maybe you know for sure |
| 16:43.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I have a CMS_PERIODIC_xxx_BUFFS message I'm catching |
| 16:43.54 | TC-Working | trigger a reindex after learning new spells |
| 16:43.58 | Shirik|Ecole | I want to use GetPlayerBuff() to determine the duration on it (Specifically, it's a spell stolen buff that I need to know) |
| 16:44.22 | Shirik|Ecole | Do I have to defer checking, or does that buff exist in GetPlayerBuff() immediately? |
| 16:44.33 | Cide | you most likely have to wait |
| 16:44.39 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what I thought :( |
| 16:44.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Kaso suggested using UNIT_AURA instead, what do you think? |
| 16:44.48 | Cide | why are you doing that on that event though? |
| 16:45.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Gruul's Lair |
| 16:45.03 | Shirik|Ecole | spell stolen spell shield |
| 16:45.06 | Cide | I figured |
| 16:45.09 | Shirik|Ecole | Need to warn 5 seconds before it's up |
| 16:45.12 | Shirik|Ecole | What I'm doing currently is |
| 16:45.16 | Cide | but yeah, I'd use UNIT_AURA |
| 16:45.24 | Shirik|Ecole | Watching when he puts it up, starting a timer, then waiting for the spell steal |
| 16:45.30 | Shirik|Ecole | then doing 30 - (GetTime() - t) |
| 16:45.38 | Shirik|Ecole | but half the time I've been out of range for him putting up the shield |
| 16:45.48 | Shirik|Ecole | and then I'm getting a negative time for duration of the spell steal |
| 16:45.51 | Shirik|Ecole | and then everything goes to hell |
| 16:45.59 | Cide | sec |
| 16:46.54 | Cide | the problem with U_A is that it doesn't fire when it refreshes |
| 16:46.58 | Cide | only on gain/lose |
| 16:47.42 | Mikma | hmm new look in wowi.com |
| 16:47.50 | Shirik|Ecole | the same is true for CMS_PERIODIC_xxx_BUFFS |
| 16:48.09 | Shirik|Ecole | because "xxx gains xxx" doesn't show up if he "regained" it |
| 16:48.14 | Shirik|Ecole | only if he didn't have it before |
| 16:48.20 | Cide | let me cut some code, sec |
| 16:48.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I mean I guess I could use the encounter sync protocol on RDX to handle it, but it's something I really don't want to do. I shouldn't need to broadcast messages for this |
| 16:51.21 | Shirik|Ecole | woah |
| 16:51.26 | Shirik|Ecole | the patch notes reference wowinterface.com ? |
| 16:51.41 | Cide | http://wowi.pastey.net/38030 |
| 16:51.46 | Cide | is what I use to detect renewed buffs |
| 16:52.04 | Cide | that's for CT_BuffMod as you can tell, so it might be too complex for your needs (since you only care about one buff) |
| 16:52.34 | Cide | it detects renewed buffs very accurately however (line 128 is executed in that case) |
| 16:53.19 | Shirik|Ecole | module:schedule is something like VFL.AdaptiveSchedule I'm assuming... yeah this would have been my next approach |
| 16:53.30 | Shirik|Ecole | though in this exact case it shouldn't matter, though this will be something I'll keep in mind |
| 16:53.47 | Shirik|Ecole | the buff should always fade for this fight so |
| 16:53.52 | Shirik|Ecole | not too big a deal |
| 16:53.53 | Cide | yeah, it just runs that function every AURA_UPDATE_FREQUENCY seconds |
| 16:53.55 | Cide | it doesn't :) |
| 16:54.04 | Shirik|Ecole | ?' |
| 16:54.07 | Cide | I'm always healing our mage who's tanking the mage |
| 16:54.09 | Cide | oh |
| 16:54.10 | Shirik|Ecole | it doesn't matter or it doesn't fade? |
| 16:54.19 | Cide | you're right, I think it does fade |
| 16:54.26 | Shirik|Ecole | there should be about 5 seconds off or so |
| 16:54.36 | Shirik|Ecole | the one time he gets hit like a mac truck |
| 16:54.41 | Shirik|Ecole | and then he spell steals the next time |
| 16:55.03 | Cide | yeah, you can sometimes get it before the cast if you're lucky (recast is synced with buff fade) |
| 16:55.19 | Cide | you usually take a 9k fireball though :P |
| 16:55.25 | Kaydeethree | bah. I've timed it properly so I rarely get hit with an unmitigated fireball |
| 16:55.33 | Kaydeethree | maybe once a fight |
| 16:55.52 | Cide | is that always possible? |
| 16:56.01 | Kaydeethree | seemed that way last week |
| 16:56.04 | Shirik|Ecole | well it's a straight up timer |
| 16:56.05 | Cide | given that if he's midcast he won't recast it before the cast finished, does he? |
| 16:56.09 | Shirik|Ecole | let's say he casts it every 30s |
| 16:56.12 | Shirik|Ecole | the buff lasts 30s |
| 16:56.14 | Cide | s/finished/finishes/ |
| 16:56.17 | Kaydeethree | no. he recasts every 30s or as soon as the spell's done |
| 16:56.20 | Shirik|Ecole | this would make it possible, but extremely difficult |
| 16:56.22 | Kaydeethree | I try to spellsteal while it's in the air |
| 16:56.25 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 16:56.27 | Cide | ah, true |
| 16:56.28 | Shirik|Ecole | you'd have to be really quick |
| 16:56.31 | Shirik|Ecole | but possible' |
| 16:56.39 | Cide | not really a big deal in any case |
| 16:56.46 | Cide | it's cake to heal through anyway |
| 16:57.00 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah I mean |
| 16:57.08 | Shirik|Ecole | our healers are good enough to pick it up :P |
| 16:57.13 | Shirik|Ecole | Two nights ago, netherspite |
| 16:57.17 | Shirik|Ecole | only one healer left and one tank left |
| 16:57.20 | Kaydeethree | ugh |
| 16:57.26 | Shirik|Ecole | the tank had the debuff, couldn't be in the red beam |
| 16:57.28 | Shirik|Ecole | so the pally went in it |
| 16:57.31 | Shirik|Ecole | and healtanked himself the entire phase |
| 16:57.33 | Shirik|Ecole | it was sick |
| 16:57.42 | Shirik|Ecole | they died next phase but it was awesome |
| 16:57.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Kilmar's a god |
| 16:57.58 | Shirik|Ecole | seriously |
| 16:58.03 | Cide | yeah, we've had paladins tank when warriors fuck up too |
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| 17:01.57 | GeoMance` | Oh gods. That's. Hahahahahah! I did not know about Leroy Jenkins. >.> |
| 17:02.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I think my guild goes a bit overboard when they use RP when mentioning first downings.... |
| 17:02.27 | Shirik|Ecole | "The sneakiest of sneaks, Sneakybob himself, who was rumored to have stealthed out of his mother's womb, having already killed several horde, had come from the shadows and kicked the shade in the knees!" |
| 17:03.10 | GeoMance` | O.o |
| 17:03.35 | Shirik|Ecole | "The elementals told Aran to shove it and dissipated, not wanting to be caught in the open when their summoner fell." |
| 17:03.43 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 17:04.12 | Shirik|Ecole | we downed Aran, Prince, and Netherspite for the first time this week, so one of the raid wrote up an article about each |
| 17:04.20 | Shirik|Ecole | It's amusing ^^ |
| 17:04.20 | zenzelezz | one of the guilds on my server used to have pretty RPish "we did it" posts |
| 17:04.38 | zenzelezz | their Four Horsemen post started with "Four riders. The beings of legend and myth had become real. Terrorizing the land and instilling fear in even the most powerful of mortals. The Four Horsemen. The Heralds of the Apocalypse. Hailing the end of Azeroth itself, they were deemed unstoppable. Man and Orc, Alliance and Horde, none would dare to stand up to them. The Scourge thought they would win with these four powers at their sid |
| 17:04.39 | zenzelezz | e. " |
| 17:05.12 | Maldivia | so... is 2.1 live now? |
| 17:05.19 | TC-Working | yes |
| 17:05.20 | zenzelezz | on US |
| 17:06.24 | zenzelezz | EU still have eight hours or so |
| 17:06.24 | TC-Working | *cough cough* there were 5 horsemen |
| 17:06.24 | zenzelezz | tell them, I was never in that guild |
| 17:06.24 | zenzelezz | wanted to, but was too poorly equipped at the time |
| 17:07.11 | Maldivia | RPish kill announcement are fun to write :) |
| 17:07.11 | zenzelezz | and read |
| 17:07.11 | Maldivia | I did the same for my guild :) |
| 17:07.16 | zenzelezz | well, if you're into it they're fun to read |
| 17:07.53 | GeoMance` | And lo the Geo said, Score! I should have checked that. Only until 11? |
| 17:07.55 | zenzelezz | my (until recently) guild kept telling me I should be on an RP server since I always kept repeating boss emotes |
| 17:08.23 | GeoMance` | Damn it! I hate the Window's Firewall. |
| 17:08.39 | TC-Working | hate leads to anger |
| 17:08.54 | GeoMance` | And anger leads to shankin' someone. |
| 17:09.31 | TC-Working | err..hate leads to suffering |
| 17:10.13 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 17:10.19 | Shirik|Ecole | anger leads to hate :P |
| 17:10.21 | GeoMance` | Someone else's, yes, we've sort of been over this with the whole shanking idea. |
| 17:10.22 | Shirik|Ecole | hate leads to suffering :P |
| 17:10.26 | TC-Working | "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." |
| 17:10.33 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 17:10.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Hate leads to suf-fer-ing |
| 17:10.52 | Shirik|Ecole | must be spread out |
| 17:10.54 | Shirik|Ecole | dramatically |
| 17:11.08 | Maldivia | zenze: me doing Ragnaros' part of his conversation with domo, was pretty common back in the days, over TS that is :) |
| 17:11.11 | TC-Working | you know what...go back to the rp server that spanwed you |
| 17:11.13 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 17:11.20 | TC-Working | spawned* |
| 17:11.36 | Shirik|Ecole | Thou shalt not banish me to my former lands! This is now my home, and you will cower beneath my might! |
| 17:11.46 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: I'm not quite that good, though I love the Ragnaros/Majordomo dia/monologues |
| 17:12.12 | zenzelezz | I'm more the "Do not touch the displays" or "/me feverishly touches the displays" kind |
| 17:13.06 | Shirik|Ecole | The Menagerie is for guests only |
| 17:13.26 | zenzelezz | There will be pain... oh, so much pain |
| 17:13.43 | Shirik|Ecole | Too soon! You are slacking off too soon! |
| 17:14.35 | Maldivia | "behold ragnaros, the firelord. he who was ancient when the world was young. bow before him mortals. Bow before your ending." |
| 17:14.56 | Maldivia | "too soon. you have awaken me too soon executus. what is the meaning of the intrusion!" |
| 17:15.19 | zenzelezz | these mortal infidels my lord; they have invaded your sanctum and seek to steal your secrets |
| 17:15.58 | subbawt | anyone have a patch mirror? |
| 17:16.15 | Shirik|Ecole | http://127.0.0.1/patch-enUS-2.1.0.exe |
| 17:16.17 | GeoMance` | Filefront? |
| 17:16.18 | Maldivia | "FOOL! You allow these insects to run rampant through the hallowed core, and now you lead them to my very lair? You have failed me executus, justice shall be meat indeed! |
| 17:16.28 | Shirik|Ecole | meat? |
| 17:16.33 | Shirik|Ecole | Justice shall be meat! |
| 17:16.33 | GeoMance` | mete? |
| 17:16.35 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 17:16.42 | Maldivia | ok, quick typo |
| 17:16.48 | Shirik|Ecole | mmmm, that's some good justice. |
| 17:16.51 | zenzelezz | My power is discombobulatingly devastating! It is ludicrous that these mortals can even attempt to enter my realm! |
| 17:16.58 | Shirik|Ecole | just needs some A1 |
| 17:17.59 | Maldivia | Shirik: but not just any meat... meat as in burned flesh! |
| 17:18.09 | zenzelezz | I can sense the SHADOW on your hearts. There can be no rest for the wicked! |
| 17:18.33 | GeoMance` | I've never been into the MC. -_- |
| 17:18.48 | Maldivia | "Let the games begin"? |
| 17:18.51 | zenzelezz | if I ever make a resurrect class, I'm definitely making it a macro to go with /shout Rise, my soldier! Rise and fight once more! |
| 17:19.15 | Shirik|Ecole | there's a /shout ? |
| 17:19.20 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:19.21 | Shirik|Ecole | is it the same as /yell ? |
| 17:19.23 | Osagasu | yell |
| 17:19.23 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:19.37 | Shirik|Ecole | and the reason for using /shout is... |
| 17:19.40 | zenzelezz | I use /tell and /shout, since I grew up with those in Anarchy Online |
| 17:19.44 | Shirik|Ecole | oo |
| 17:19.54 | Shirik|Ecole | It took me forever to get away from RF |
| 17:20.07 | Shirik|Ecole | Everything in RF is like a command |
| 17:20.08 | zenzelezz | /whisper in Anarchy Online was a short-range /say with different color |
| 17:20.11 | Shirik|Ecole | #Hello |
| 17:20.18 | Shirik|Ecole | or /Shirik rawr |
| 17:20.30 | Shirik|Ecole | or !Greetings! |
| 17:20.37 | Maldivia | I'm constantly using /tell aswell, instead of just /w or silimar |
| 17:20.37 | Shirik|Ecole | or %rawr |
| 17:20.39 | GeoMance` | I hate that setup. |
| 17:20.58 | Shirik|Ecole | hmmm did I miss anything? |
| 17:21.05 | Shirik|Ecole | IF you wanted to use spatial chat you didn't type any prefix |
| 17:21.16 | Maldivia | that's just mud style |
| 17:21.17 | Shirik|Ecole | which resulted in the inability to start any spacial chat message with a #, /, !, or % |
| 17:21.37 | Maldivia | ~botsnack |
| 17:21.37 | purl | aw, gee, Maldivia |
| 17:21.46 | Shirik|Ecole | though... I think with the exception of !, if you put a space in front of it, it worked |
| 17:21.53 | Shirik|Ecole | lol I remember one time |
| 17:22.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I was shocked by something someone did, so I did !! |
| 17:22.08 | Shirik|Ecole | which resulted in a server-wide message of ! |
| 17:22.13 | Shirik|Ecole | and I was like "oh crap -_- " |
| 17:22.24 | Shirik|Ecole | it appears on everyone's screen |
| 17:22.25 | Shirik|Ecole | Notice: ! |
| 17:22.29 | GeoMance` | Hahahah! |
| 17:23.01 | Shirik|Ecole | the result was |
| 17:23.09 | Shirik|Ecole | everyone in map chat (like general chat I guess) responded with ! |
| 17:23.18 | zenzelezz | I remember one fun thing with Anarchy Online; it didn't work from the chat input box, but worked from a script... /g Check out my new <a href="itemref://somenumericid">Shadowweb Spinner Mk X</a>, which would link whichever item really had that item ID... like Monster Parts |
| 17:23.22 | Shirik|Ecole | And I was like "ok, do I announce my presense or just move to the next server" |
| 17:23.23 | zenzelezz | was fun to trick noobs that way |
| 17:23.29 | TC-Working | heh |
| 17:23.30 | TC-Working | I am the Vista |
| 17:23.30 | TC-Working | Thou shalt have no other Vistas before me |
| 17:23.31 | TC-Working | Thou shalt not make for yourself a Vista |
| 17:23.31 | TC-Working | Thou shalt not make wrongful use of the name Vista |
| 17:23.31 | TC-Working | Remember the Vista and keep it holy |
| 17:23.33 | TC-Working | Honor Thy Vista |
| 17:23.35 | TC-Working | Thou shalt not murder Vista |
| 17:23.37 | TC-Working | Thou shalt not commit Vista |
| 17:23.39 | TC-Working | Thou shalt not bear false Vista |
| 17:23.41 | TC-Working | Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Vista |
| 17:23.43 | TC-Working | oops |
| 17:23.47 | GeoMance` | Noobs, or froobs? |
| 17:24.07 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: so you mean like people did in WoW with link spoofing |
| 17:24.20 | Shirik|Ecole | yar, it used to work in WoW |
| 17:24.37 | zenzelezz | probably, I don't think I was around when that happened... or at least not in a zone where the channels they used were active |
| 17:24.53 | Shirik|Ecole | |cffffffff|Hitem:101:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Lol Shirik's uber item]|h|r |
| 17:25.15 | Shirik|Ecole | unfortunately my uber item is white :( |
| 17:25.19 | KarlThePagan | Chuck Norris's Right Leg |
| 17:25.46 | Shirik|Ecole | I wonder if they broke the ability to use item ID 0 in 2.1 |
| 17:25.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I had fun with that in guild chat |
| 17:26.01 | GeoMance` | What did it do? |
| 17:26.05 | Maldivia | first it was free-for-all text, then the item's name had to be a part of the item, and suddently Club and similar items became popular |
| 17:26.05 | zenzelezz | I do remember some fake-name links |
| 17:26.20 | Shirik|Ecole | GeoMance`: Basically it lets you set any color you want |
| 17:26.33 | zenzelezz | like [Your Mom Is The Immovable Object], that was common on my server |
| 17:26.33 | Shirik|Ecole | for chat |
| 17:26.41 | GeoMance` | Ah, fuuun. |
| 17:26.45 | Shirik|Ecole | so I would do things like making epic bandages |
| 17:26.47 | Shirik|Ecole | or whatever |
| 17:26.51 | Shirik|Ecole | but it's not an item link |
| 17:26.53 | Maldivia | there was something about paris hilton aswell, that was very comming |
| 17:26.54 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't click it, etc. |
| 17:27.17 | Maldivia | s/comming/common/ |
| 17:27.47 | subbawt | Why doesn't my internet like torrents :( |
| 17:28.02 | subbawt | The port is forwarded properly and everything |
| 17:28.13 | GeoMance` | What are you trying to torrent? |
| 17:29.09 | TC-Working | depends on the torrent program and your firewall as well |
| 17:29.37 | GeoMance` | I can't use the Blizzard downloader. It stops at about 50-70% |
| 17:30.13 | TC-Working | so use another torrent program |
| 17:30.44 | foxlit | BD has no endgame-mode |
| 17:30.50 | foxlit | So it's liable to stop at like 99 |
| 17:30.56 | foxlit | 50-70 is interesting, though |
| 17:32.20 | Maldivia | could be some of blizzard servers has gone offline, leaving the rest of the leechers at around 70%, thus noone has a full copy |
| 17:33.05 | Shirik|Ecole | heading back home |
| 17:33.06 | Shirik|Ecole | bbiab |
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| 17:40.51 | Tem|Work | gah, I need to make pdfs that pdflatex spits out "comment enabled" |
| 17:44.01 | Maldivia | heh |
| 17:47.49 | Shirik | qq @ my server having extended maintenance |
| 17:48.06 | Shirik | extra qq @ failed to apply patch |
| 17:48.06 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:48.30 | Kaydeethree | yah. I've got a "12 hour maint! 5A-5P EDT! 2.1!" thread up in my realm forum |
| 17:48.31 | Kaydeethree | ouch |
| 17:48.34 | Kaydeethree | repair tool ftw? |
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| 17:49.09 | Shirik | I dunno the splash screen is DLing something now so |
| 17:49.13 | Shirik | I'm gonna try again and if it fails time to repair |
| 17:49.19 | Shirik | er |
| 17:49.23 | Shirik | the splash screen just crashed |
| 17:49.23 | Shirik | yay |
| 17:49.29 | Kaydeethree | launch wow directly |
| 17:49.40 | Shirik | I think |
| 17:49.42 | Kaydeethree | not via the launcher. I couldn't get it to download the downloader |
| 17:49.46 | Shirik | I'm going to restart |
| 17:49.48 | Shirik | brb |
| 17:49.55 | Shadowed | people use the launcher? |
| 17:51.16 | Nerinia | Yes I do. And IE and ActiveX and ... :D |
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| 18:00.15 | Shirik | have I said yet |
| 18:00.20 | Shirik | how much of a POS CAA is? |
| 18:00.29 | Shirik | I can't believe it just took me about 10 minutes to log in |
| 18:00.48 | foxlit | Btw, signatures work. |
| 18:01.01 | Shirik | omg teh sexx |
| 18:04.32 | Legorol | Cair, is there any way to remove a patch/addon submitted under your addon? |
| 18:04.42 | Shirik | ask any admin/mod I believe they can do it |
| 18:04.48 | Cair | yup, give me the link and I poof it for you |
| 18:04.52 | Shirik | Cair you're back |
| 18:04.55 | Cair | I am |
| 18:05.15 | GeoMance` | O.o No realms listed. |
| 18:07.41 | Shirik | patch notes: "Terestian illhoof will now wait longer before ressurecting his imp" |
| 18:07.44 | Shirik | does anyone know the time? |
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| 18:08.14 | foxlit | Here's another part suckage of blizzard raid encounter design: you need timers |
| 18:08.21 | GeoMance` | I know what you mean, Scythe. Isn't it supposed to be up by now? |
| 18:08.36 | Shirik | tbh |
| 18:08.37 | Kaydeethree | it's patch day. there's no way they're going to be up on time |
| 18:08.39 | Shirik | we don't even kill the imp |
| 18:08.42 | foxlit | And they @#$@#$@# know people are going to get an addon to do it. |
| 18:08.51 | Kaydeethree | the imp dies due to aoe from seeds/rof |
| 18:08.54 | Shirik | yeh |
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| 18:09.05 | Shirik | we don't even touch him, he just gets killed at some point |
| 18:09.09 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 18:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | GeoMance`, yeah, it should be up. But they aren't, and it was somewhat expected. |
| 18:09.15 | nevcairiel | he dies on seed of corruption |
| 18:09.16 | nevcairiel | generally |
| 18:09.24 | nevcairiel | or being tanked to death :P |
| 18:09.41 | GeoMance` | I know, but I could wish. |
| 18:10.52 | nevcairiel | oh all those kara changes, i nearly forgot about those |
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| 18:11.26 | Kaydeethree | meh. at least the door closes now for prince. now we can use that corner too |
| 18:12.00 | Shirik | the door closes because people were exploting it :P |
| 18:12.03 | Shadowed | You have to have timers, thats the only way you could really make an encounter friendly to people, you wouldn't be very happy if you were told you had to move 10 yards and you had 3 seconds to do it and your only warning was the ground shaking :p |
| 18:12.05 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 18:12.23 | Kaydeethree | like aran's aoe? |
| 18:12.41 | Kaydeethree | er, IAE |
| 18:12.41 | nevcairiel | aran gets nerfed, netherspite gets buffed .. /me reads up on all other changes |
| 18:12.57 | Kaydeethree | bah, why am I even bothering to try to post on the forums today? |
| 18:13.15 | foxlit | Don't need timers for aran. |
| 18:13.16 | Josh_Borke | Shadowed: you wouldn't be happy if you WEREN'T told you had to move 10 yards and had 3 seconds to do it |
| 18:13.24 | foxlit | But thing is, the game should give you all the warning you need |
| 18:13.28 | Shadowed | I could care less, i'd do the encounter the same way |
| 18:13.39 | nevcairiel | the important warnings are already there using the boss emote event thing |
| 18:13.46 | Shadowed | Aran's AoE provides like 7-8s warning and it drags you all too him, which is more obvious then ground shaking |
| 18:13.56 | Shadowed | er, 5-6s |
| 18:13.58 | foxlit | Shouts were genial! |
| 18:14.13 | foxlit | And c'mon, you have to be |---------------------| stupid to die to AE |
| 18:14.19 | nevcairiel | so true |
| 18:14.27 | nevcairiel | its a bit more tricky for flame wreath |
| 18:14.30 | Shadowed | You ever do Sapph or KT in naxx? |
| 18:14.31 | nevcairiel | if you dont see the cast |
| 18:14.43 | Shadowed | People die all the time because they don' |
| 18:14.46 | foxlit | He shouts. It's voiced. |
| 18:14.46 | Kaydeethree | "I will not move when Flame Wreath is cast or the raid blows up." |
| 18:14.48 | Kaydeethree | he emotes |
| 18:14.51 | foxlit | I don't see a problem |
| 18:14.53 | Shadowed | they tunnel vision on the encounter and don't move to blocks or out of the AE |
| 18:15.00 | nevcairiel | oh right, he yells some stuff |
| 18:15.10 | foxlit | Turn on sound effect "BURN YOU HELLISH FIENDS" means stop moving |
| 18:15.15 | foxlit | effects, even |
| 18:15.21 | Shadowed | Giant flames on the ground mean stop moving too |
| 18:15.22 | Shirik | I love my mail service |
| 18:15.25 | Shadowed | Basically, people are idiots |
| 18:15.27 | Shirik | Attachments: (233 Bytes) (911 Bytes) |
| 18:15.31 | foxlit | In short, aran is the perfect example of how _to_ design encounters |
| 18:15.33 | Shirik | "Attachment has been deleted because it is insecure" |
| 18:15.34 | Shirik | wtf |
| 18:15.35 | Shadowed | and need an obvious indication of when something is going to happen |
| 18:16.23 | foxlit | There are situations when you do actually need a timer. |
| 18:16.37 | foxlit | Like C'Thun's small tentacles |
| 18:16.49 | foxlit | (or big ones, for that matter) |
| 18:16.59 | Shadowed | Not really imo |
| 18:17.00 | Kaydeethree | you should be killing the tentacles long before the next one spawns |
| 18:17.18 | Shadowed | Yea, they should easly be dead before the next ones spawn, and you have very little reason to stand on there spawn point anyway |
| 18:17.25 | Cair | you guys see this yet? http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/money/article_1702706.php |
| 18:17.55 | foxlit | Nevertheless, raidwarnings get spammed with "big tentacle spawns in 239482039s" |
| 18:17.59 | ScytheBlade1 | WHee, some realms are up |
| 18:18.09 | Kaydeethree | medivh's not up til 5 |
| 18:18.14 | Kaydeethree | at the earliest |
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| 18:19.17 | Shadowed | "He offered a detailed description of what he wanted: dangerous flames, curved frame " Gladiator XBow? |
| 18:19.18 | foxlit | Point is, they could've easily encorporated those as a timer into the encounter |
| 18:19.34 | foxlit | For instance by spawning invulnerable mini-tentacles that grow into the real ones in ~5s |
| 18:20.09 | foxlit | Gives a 5s warning to people supposed to be killing them to get to where they should be, and doesn't require people to sit staring at a stopwatch |
| 18:20.54 | Maldivia | or just make a beam of light, as if it's being beamed in :) |
| 18:20.59 | Shadowed | You should always be spread out during C'Thun regardless, so you should always be within 5-10yd of the tentacle and dno't really need the timer |
| 18:21.01 | Shadowed | don't too* |
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| 18:22.39 | Shadowed | Cairenn: Interesting story |
| 18:24.07 | zenzelezz | Ezra is a real name? I used to be in the same guild with someone called that |
| 18:24.53 | Shadowed | "They settled on attributing it to ePhoenix, his character in the game." |
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| 18:26.10 | foxlit | Who's this Ahab Wheathoof? |
| 18:26.39 | Moskau | Anyone happen to know how to patch up eu client without an eu account? My locale is enGB but I play on US servers, and it won't let me install =/ |
| 18:26.51 | Shadowed | Name they made up it sounds like |
| 18:26.58 | Moskau | (tried running BNUpdate from Patches\ and WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enGB-Win-patch\) |
| 18:27.38 | Shadowed | Realms up |
| 18:27.46 | Shadowed | (for US at least) |
| 18:27.47 | zenzelezz | will it update before the EU servers are set to 2.1? I've never tried updating beforehand |
| 18:27.57 | Moskau | zenzelezz: I can't auth with EU servers |
| 18:27.59 | Moskau | my account is US |
| 18:28.17 | zenzelezz | I know |
| 18:28.31 | Moskau | I can start from scratch 2.0.0 and patch from there but I'mt rying to not wait four hours downloading it |
| 18:28.31 | zenzelezz | but I don't know how, or even if, the patcher knows when to patch |
| 18:28.37 | Osagasu | You don't need to auth with the servers to update. |
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| 18:28.51 | Moskau | hm. |
| 18:28.53 | Osagasu | Hell, you can put in a bad UN/pass and still get to the update download |
| 18:29.01 | Maldivia | the EU servers aren't updated yet, so the version control will pass :) |
| 18:29.23 | Moskau | boo |
| 18:29.33 | Moskau | so I have to download the full patch and find a way to revert to 2.0.0 |
| 18:31.06 | Shirik | retrieving character list................................................ |
| 18:31.13 | Moskau | oh, servers just came up? |
| 18:31.15 | Moskau | (US realms) |
| 18:31.43 | Shirik | some |
| 18:32.31 | Moskau | why can't Blizzard just let ELPs be normally installed on US clients and avoid hassling the extraordinarily small minority |
| 18:32.31 | Moskau | QQ |
| 18:32.33 | GeoMance` | Mine did. Whooo. |
| 18:32.47 | Shadowed | stupid patch |
| 18:32.49 | Shadowed | I don't want to update my mods |
| 18:33.05 | Moskau | check load outdated? |
| 18:33.09 | Maldivia | Moskau: checked if the EU patch isn't up on a mirror yet? |
| 18:33.15 | Moskau | Maldivia: I have the patch |
| 18:33.20 | Moskau | background downloader downloaded it |
| 18:33.23 | Moskau | but it won't *install* |
| 18:33.27 | Maldivia | also the final part? |
| 18:33.30 | Moskau | nope |
| 18:33.33 | Maldivia | exactly : |
| 18:33.35 | Moskau | Can't find that in any downloads, though |
| 18:33.36 | Moskau | =/ |
| 18:33.50 | Moskau | Plus, I'd have to download the entire thing |
| 18:33.54 | Moskau | the only mirrors I see up are for enUS |
| 18:34.03 | Moskau | which is stupid, because the files are exactly the same |
| 18:34.06 | Moskau | just named differently |
| 18:34.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 18:34.17 | Maldivia | hmm, wirebrain is slow, they usually have the patch up a day or two before, since you can fetch them from blizzard's servers |
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| 18:34.26 | Maldivia | the files are not exactly the same |
| 18:34.50 | Moskau | with enGB? besides switching locales to say US, I'm pretty sure they're identical |
| 18:34.59 | Moskau | none of the sounds or localization is different |
| 18:35.02 | Maldivia | well, the2 big pre-patch files are probably, the final file is not |
| 18:35.12 | Maldivia | there are changes in the exe file |
| 18:35.19 | Moskau | the exe is universal |
| 18:35.27 | Moskau | in my experience, at least |
| 18:35.41 | Moskau | You can copy zhTW exe and play on US servers, as long as the realmlist and Data\enUS are there |
| 18:35.52 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 18:35.56 | Shirik | serenity's pissed |
| 18:36.11 | Maldivia | Moskau: hmm, that's new then, you haven't always been able to do that |
| 18:36.16 | Maldivia | previously they were localized |
| 18:36.32 | Moskau | I think it's new in TBC, but I'm not sure |
| 18:36.34 | Maldivia | but to be honest, it's been a while since I've had dual installs |
| 18:36.38 | Moskau | I've only used ELPs since TBC was released |
| 18:36.46 | Moskau | I can't stand dual installs, too much disc space |
| 18:36.50 | GeoMance` | ELPs? |
| 18:36.53 | Moskau | ... which is the entire reason I run in enGB |
| 18:36.56 | Moskau | European Language Pack |
| 18:37.12 | Shirik | "what to do!?!?!?!? seriously i had about 70 keys binded..what to do!?!" |
| 18:37.12 | Moskau | For the EU client, at least, you can download some ~300mB pack that has Data\xxXX |
| 18:37.27 | Shirik | people seriously would kill themselves if they didn't have people telling them what to do |
| 18:37.36 | Kaydeethree | I've started my 2.1.0 psa thread |
| 18:37.42 | Kaydeethree | start pointing people to it. |
| 18:37.51 | Shirik | I already posted in it |
| 18:38.14 | Moskau | hm. Could someone DCC me wow-final.mpq? |
| 18:38.16 | Kaydeethree | lawl |
| 18:38.45 | Shirik | woach |
| 18:38.48 | Shirik | they changed the shaman color |
| 18:38.50 | Maldivia | Moskau: http://wowpatches.de/wowpatches have the 2.0.12 -> 2.1.0 EU patches |
| 18:38.51 | Shirik | to a really dark blue |
| 18:39.25 | Moskau | DE server and if I download the whole patch, it's faster to use blizz downloader =/ |
| 18:40.13 | Maldivia | ohh, thought they had a torrent, in which case, it would be fast :9 |
| 18:40.40 | Shirik | SendChatMessage("\124cff0070dd\Hitem:28040:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\h[Vengeance of the Illidari]\124h\124r", "GUILD") |
| 18:40.41 | Shirik | oops |
| 18:40.43 | Moskau | Well, considering the downloads I'd assume most of the seeds to be EU =P especially for EU locale |
| 18:41.06 | Moskau | hm, 20mB part2. /crosses fingers |
| 18:42.22 | Shirik | awwww |
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| 18:42.25 | Shirik | you can't use item ID 0 anymore |
| 18:42.28 | Shirik | no more colored text to guild :( |
| 18:42.41 | Moskau | I thought that was fixed patches ago o_O |
| 18:42.46 | Shirik | nah |
| 18:42.48 | Shirik | I used it a few days ago |
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| 18:42.57 | Moskau | well, you can still do fun things =) |
| 18:43.05 | Shirik | yeah |
| 18:43.09 | Shirik | like give them that lua crashing code |
| 18:43.10 | Moskau | First thing I'm going to do is circulate a few links |
| 18:43.11 | Moskau | hmmm |
| 18:43.24 | Moskau | Going to "socket" a few items |
| 18:43.25 | Moskau | bandages? |
| 18:43.29 | Moskau | with black temple sta gems |
| 18:43.32 | Shirik | . |
| 18:43.54 | Shirik | wow |
| 18:43.56 | Shirik | 2.1 fixed fubar |
| 18:43.57 | Shirik | somehow |
| 18:43.59 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 18:44.01 | Moskau | fixed? |
| 18:44.04 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:44.09 | Moskau | how so? :< |
| 18:44.09 | Shirik | as in I couldn't see anything on it before 2.1 |
| 18:44.10 | Shirik | and now I can |
| 18:44.12 | Moskau | I haven't updated mods in ages |
| 18:45.49 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:45.54 | nevcairiel | my ratingbuster just broke |
| 18:45.56 | nevcairiel | on 2.0 |
| 18:46.04 | Shirik | wow |
| 18:46.11 | Shirik | is there some memory leak in auctioneer/informant? |
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| 18:46.29 | Shirik | Every time I hover over an item, my memory increasing rate shoots up to about 100KiB/s until I move away |
| 18:46.43 | Shirik | correction |
| 18:46.43 | Shirik | 400 |
| 18:46.49 | foxlit | Is this (http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/arena/rewards-weapons.html) 2.1 or 2.0? |
| 18:48.02 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: 2.0 |
| 18:48.51 | foxlit | Anyone got the 2.1 list somewhere? |
| 18:48.56 | Gnarfoz | mmo-champion.com |
| 18:49.25 | Shirik | wtf |
| 18:49.29 | Shirik | casting a heal now dismounts you? |
| 18:49.34 | Shirik | (if you're mounted) |
| 18:49.34 | Gnarfoz | just if you're mounted |
| 18:49.40 | Gnarfoz | and have that option turned on |
| 18:49.43 | Kaydeethree | any casts will dismount |
| 18:49.47 | foxlit | Right clicking on anything dismounts you! |
| 18:49.52 | Shirik | huh |
| 18:49.53 | foxlit | Option in interface options |
| 18:49.55 | Gnarfoz | dunno why the hell they made that default to enabled |
| 18:49.57 | Shirik | interesting |
| 18:50.06 | foxlit | To deplete some gold while people don't realize |
| 18:50.14 | foxlit | Right click -> fall to death -> spiritres |
| 18:50.24 | foxlit | With any luck, around netherwing lodge |
| 18:50.26 | Gnarfoz | but it will annoy the hell out of people who don't bother to read patch notes (or to read, at all) |
| 18:50.30 | Gnarfoz | that, I like |
| 18:50.33 | Shirik | well |
| 18:50.35 | foxlit | (or not, since you don't spiritres there) |
| 18:50.37 | Shirik | "Auto dismount in flight" |
| 18:50.39 | Shirik | is disabled by default |
| 18:50.45 | Gnarfoz | it is? |
| 18:50.47 | Gryphen | yes |
| 18:50.48 | Shirik | ya |
| 18:50.48 | Gnarfoz | they said it would be enabled |
| 18:50.50 | Moskau | Could someone DCC me wow-final.MPQ? |
| 18:51.03 | Gryphen | disabled by default, ground mounts enabled |
| 18:51.04 | Gnarfoz | wait, that's not the same option, is it? |
| 18:51.06 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 18:51.08 | Gnarfoz | they split it up |
| 18:51.16 | Gryphen | no option for ground |
| 18:51.16 | Shirik | right |
| 18:51.18 | Shirik | correct |
| 18:52.51 | Shirik | so where is this "report spam" option? |
| 18:52.56 | Shirik | I thought you right click the name? |
| 18:53.38 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:53.42 | Shirik | I bet it's prat screwing it up |
| 18:53.43 | Shirik | gg |
| 18:55.31 | Maldivia | Moskau: it ends being easier to just wait until the EU servres go offline in 6 hours or so, and then try to connect to them, to get the last piece : |
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| 18:58.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, only 2 of my addons are still broken :O |
| 18:58.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats not too bad |
| 18:58.16 | Shirik | none of my addons are broken |
| 18:58.20 | Shirik | in fact, 2.1 actually unbroke stuff |
| 18:58.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the broken ones involve unit frames |
| 18:58.46 | Shirik | I don't see why people are having trouble with that |
| 18:58.52 | Shirik | I didn't touch a single line of code in RDX's unit frames |
| 18:58.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | buffoptions is broken for me because of the new buff timers |
| 18:59.02 | Shirik | oh, hm |
| 18:59.07 | Shirik | perhaps the buffs |
| 19:01.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | my memory usage is down only like |
| 19:01.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | 4mb |
| 19:01.41 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 19:01.41 | Shirik | fubar just rebroke |
| 19:01.41 | Shirik | wtf! |
| 19:01.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | with atlasloot disabled, so it's probably not down at all |
| 19:01.41 | Maldivia | it annoys me he removed the buff type from UnitBuff |
| 19:01.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:01.41 | Maldivia | so UnitBuff and UnitDebuff now differ |
| 19:01.41 | Shirik | fubar worked for one session and then redied :( |
| 19:01.42 | Shirik | 2.1 had gotten my hopes up for a second |
| 19:01.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | fubar's working for me |
| 19:01.54 | Shirik | well yeah I know what the problem is |
| 19:01.54 | Shirik | I just need to stop being lazy and get the update |
| 19:02.01 | Shirik | but it was broke in 2.0.12 also, then when 2.1 came it started working and I was like o______o |
| 19:02.04 | Shirik | then it broke again :( |
| 19:03.08 | Kaydeethree | ick. wowi went poof |
| 19:03.19 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:03.26 | Cair | rebooting the servers |
| 19:03.43 | Cair | they were bogging down so dolby-wowi is doing a restart |
| 19:03.57 | Shirik | <3 dolby-wowi |
| 19:05.56 | Cair | and we're back |
| 19:07.34 | GeoMance` | dolby-wowi? |
| 19:07.38 | Shirik | I'm loving this whole "All ace addons are broken" |
| 19:07.42 | Shirik | just loving it |
| 19:07.48 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 19:07.55 | Shirik | is what I'm seeing all over the forums |
| 19:07.57 | foxlit | Are they? /point /laugh time? |
| 19:08.01 | Cair | Shirik: be nice |
| 19:08.05 | Shirik | Well see |
| 19:08.09 | Shirik | Ace works fine for me |
| 19:08.13 | Shirik | so I don't know what they all did |
| 19:08.18 | zenzelezz | the people that forgot to check "Load out-of-date addons"? |
| 19:08.20 | Shirik | Prat hasn't a problem at all |
| 19:08.32 | Arrowmaster | point them all to files.wowace.com and tell them to acutally fucking update their addons once in a while |
| 19:08.45 | Shirik | well tbh I'm wondering if that's what it is |
| 19:08.50 | Shirik | because I'm probably running slightly out-of-date myself |
| 19:09.00 | Shirik | Cair:Didn't mean it that way >< |
| 19:09.05 | foxlit | The way ace releases work, who isn't? |
| 19:09.05 | Cair | good |
| 19:09.15 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue personally, all servers i have characters on are down for hardware upgrades |
| 19:09.33 | Shirik | I'm glad |
| 19:09.36 | Shirik | I only run on two servers |
| 19:09.43 | Shirik | my main's down so I get a chance to work on my priest |
| 19:10.45 | Arrowmaster | meh i have all chars on one server and like a level 5 or something on another, both servers down |
| 19:11.05 | Xuerian | Shouldn't be that many problems if people upgrade *All* their ace addons, we've all been working on the ptr for the last two weeks and fixing bugs on it |
| 19:11.18 | Arrowmaster | a made the lvl 5 alliance shaman when tbc went live and my main server kept crashing |
| 19:11.23 | Xuerian | (That many, being none) |
| 19:13.18 | Shirik | ... |
| 19:13.19 | zenzelezz | I somehow still find it amusing that so many installation programs tell you to "Make sure no other applications are running or active"... what sort of person has *no* applications running o_O |
| 19:13.19 | Shirik | Yeah um |
| 19:13.19 | Shirik | in almost every case it doesn't even matter |
| 19:13.20 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 19:13.20 | Shirik | yet they tell you to do it anyway |
| 19:13.20 | zenzelezz | blah, stupid driver updates... |
| 19:13.26 | Xuerian | Driver updates do have a valid claim to do that.. :P |
| 19:13.40 | Arrowmaster | i could see it being an issue if the installer was updating common librarys |
| 19:13.56 | Maldivia | I hate stupid people... |
| 19:14.17 | Shirik | omg dynamically updating icons is awesome |
| 19:14.28 | Shirik | also |
| 19:14.32 | Shirik | dead bodies that you are targetting |
| 19:14.34 | Shirik | now rotate towards you |
| 19:14.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:14.42 | Kaydeethree | yay bugs |
| 19:14.46 | Arrowmaster | thats an old bug |
| 19:14.56 | Shirik | I never went onto the ptr aside from the first 5 minutes of it >< |
| 19:15.01 | nevcairiel | dynamicly updating icons .. wonder if i have to adjust bartender3 |
| 19:15.06 | Arrowmaster | used to get corpses that kept targeting people and facing them in aq20 all the time |
| 19:15.07 | Shirik | bongos didn't have a problem |
| 19:15.17 | nevcairiel | i will hope then :P |
| 19:15.21 | Shirik | oooh |
| 19:15.26 | Tuller | err, yes bongos does have a problem :P |
| 19:15.27 | Shirik | SCT's trying to call IsFeignDeath() |
| 19:15.42 | Arrowmaster | perty sure sct got updated |
| 19:15.43 | Shirik | :( goodbye David Levin |
| 19:15.44 | Moskau | <Shirik> omg dynamically updating icons is awesome |
| 19:15.48 | Moskau | dynamically updating icons? |
| 19:15.50 | Shirik | aye |
| 19:15.54 | Shirik | liek if you have a macro that has a conditional |
| 19:15.54 | nevcairiel | Tuller: stance stuff? |
| 19:15.57 | Moskau | oh |
| 19:15.59 | Shirik | when you hit alt or whatever it changes |
| 19:15.59 | Shirik | etc. |
| 19:16.04 | Tuller | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 19:16.06 | Moskau | also, bongos doesn't work? wtf |
| 19:16.11 | Shirik | it worsk fine for me |
| 19:16.13 | Moskau | oh |
| 19:16.14 | Moskau | k |
| 19:16.19 | nevcairiel | people have been reporting that for bt3 |
| 19:16.23 | nevcairiel | but i couldnt reproduce it |
| 19:16.40 | Tuller | well, I already know how to fix it, I'm just having trouble getting the states to load up properly on login :) |
| 19:16.42 | nevcairiel | went to terokkar and auto-attacked one basilisk, always switching forms |
| 19:16.52 | nevcairiel | never had any issue |
| 19:17.07 | Shirik | timing on debuffs is equally awesome |
| 19:17.10 | Shirik | no more need for CCWatch! |
| 19:17.29 | nevcairiel | Tuller: what was the issue? |
| 19:18.09 | Tuller | nevcairiel: its probably just specific to my code, I'm loading states properly, just not updating at startup :) |
| 19:18.16 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 19:18.17 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 19:18.34 | nevcairiel | did you change to state stacks ? :) |
| 19:21.08 | ckknight | wowi down? |
| 19:21.19 | GeoMance` | Can you make any texture tile, or is it only those for a Dialogue? |
| 19:22.43 | Tuller | nevcairiel: no, I haven't touched the state stack at all |
| 19:22.58 | Maldivia | geo, you can make all backgrouns tile, there's a option for it in the table you use to specify the background |
| 19:23.07 | Shirik | I fixed SCT :D |
| 19:23.11 | Tuller | nevcairiel: you can do pretty much everything nicely without them, though they are useful for quick paging, I think |
| 19:23.48 | GeoMance` | That's Mald. |
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| 19:24.22 | nevcairiel | Tuller: yea i had my own mini-stack implemented, by using insane big state numbers :D but the state stack reduced that code to like 1/3 :) |
| 19:24.46 | Maldivia | GeoMance`: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop |
| 19:25.01 | Tuller | nevcairiel: I have under 15 states now, and they do everything for stances/paging :P |
| 19:25.10 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 19:25.18 | nevcairiel | altho i am not sure what bongos offers |
| 19:25.32 | nevcairiel | i should check it out |
| 19:25.33 | GeoMance` | Ahhh, I'd read something about that only bein' possible in a Dialog frame, or something to that effect. |
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| 19:38.13 | foxlit | Can I save variables that were declared local? |
| 19:38.23 | foxlit | Or is ##SavedVariables only for global vars? |
| 19:38.43 | Shirik | globals only |
| 19:38.46 | Shirik | think about it |
| 19:38.54 | Shirik | how is the SV handler going to access a local var? |
| 19:39.12 | foxlit | I assume C can figure out what's local for who |
| 19:39.36 | foxlit | And, if it doesn't find matching globals, check for locals in addon files |
| 19:40.22 | Shirik | well I don't know anything about the C side of Lua |
| 19:40.31 | Shirik | but even if it could, it doesn't, so yes, to answer your question, globals only |
| 19:40.50 | nevcairiel | i really shouldnt have put so much configurability into Bartender3 .. i hate maintaining it :P |
| 19:56.21 | End | o_O |
| 19:56.26 | End | http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-03/computer-homosexual-invention.jpg |
| 19:57.15 | Kirkburn|afk | wtf |
| 19:57.25 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 19:57.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Very lol :) |
| 19:57.39 | Shadowed | Is anyone getting a bug where when you open a dropdown box it immeditially closes? |
| 19:57.40 | [dRaCo] | that's pretty much what I thought |
| 19:57.40 | End | (It is true Turing was gay though, but... o_O) |
| 19:58.34 | Punkie` | Does anyone know why if GetSpellName(i, BOOKTYPE_SPELL) == "Remove Curse" then ..... just doesn't work ? :( |
| 19:58.54 | Punkie` | I'm looking through the whole spellbook and its just not working |
| 20:00.14 | End | might it be possible you could be checking too early, before the spell list is loaded? |
| 20:00.28 | a-stray-cat | punkie, GetSpellName returns spellname, rank |
| 20:00.46 | a-stray-cat | you'd have to either select(1, GetSpellName(...)) or name = GetSpellName(...) then compare it |
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| 20:01.48 | End | a-stray-cat: that part doesn't matter |
| 20:02.01 | a-stray-cat | it does |
| 20:02.16 | End | > function a() return "a","b" end |
| 20:02.16 | End | > if a() == "a" then print "true" end |
| 20:02.16 | End | true |
| 20:02.59 | krka | end is correct |
| 20:03.07 | a-stray-cat | how strange |
| 20:03.15 | a-stray-cat | GetSpellName only works when i set it to something though |
| 20:03.18 | a-stray-cat | for comparisons |
| 20:03.28 | krka | in expressions, multiple return values get truncated to one |
| 20:03.44 | a-stray-cat | in all my mods where i use that I have to do name = GetSpellName(), if name == ... |
| 20:03.44 | Punkie` | Remove Curse has no rank |
| 20:04.47 | a-stray-cat | nevermind |
| 20:04.56 | a-stray-cat | after playing with it a bit, it seems im wrong ;P |
| 20:04.59 | Punkie` | but still, if I then go to check it is on cooldown I will return the error 'GetSpellCooldown(): Invalid spell slot' |
| 20:05.26 | a-stray-cat | maybe it wasn't found? |
| 20:05.35 | Nerinia | GetSpellCooldown("Remove Curse") ? |
| 20:05.53 | krka | do if GetSpellName() == someString then doStuff() end end is exactly the same as do local name = GetSpellName() if name == someString then doStuff() end end |
| 20:06.18 | End | Nerinia: I don't think GetSpellCooldown() accepts a single string argument |
| 20:06.34 | Punkie` | tbh, I just want to check if something is actually on cooldown |
| 20:06.57 | Nerinia | Strings work for me with this function. |
| 20:07.04 | End | hmm |
| 20:07.10 | Punkie` | wowwiki must be out of date then |
| 20:07.14 | Punkie` | It says: GetSpellCooldown(spellID, "bookType") |
| 20:07.20 | Punkie` | let me check |
| 20:07.41 | End | I don't think Blizzard uses that for ever either |
| 20:07.45 | End | fform* |
| 20:07.47 | End | bah |
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| 20:08.29 | Punkie` | Amazing |
| 20:08.30 | Punkie` | it works |
| 20:08.42 | Punkie` | Thanks Nerinia :p |
| 20:08.51 | Nerinia | ;) |
| 20:09.58 | End | heh, not only is GetSpellCooldown never used with just the spell name, but it's only used once it all of Blizzard's FrameXML code |
| 20:10.56 | GeoMance` | Ah, this isn't cool. |
| 20:13.21 | GeoMance` | My frames thing broke down without warning, and won't show. No errors or anything. |
| 20:14.09 | sysrage | are all servers back up? |
| 20:17.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 20:20.26 | Tuller | hurray stances work, now to decide where to put the vars for the action bars |
| 20:20.45 | Wey | Anybody aware of unitframes or some other addon that lets you have vertical health and mana bars? I heard PitBull is capable of doing that but I looked at it and the code and I'm thinking it doesn't do it afterall:( |
| 20:21.05 | GeoMance` | Do you know if the error thing got turned off in the update, 'cause I've not been getting any errors since I started. |
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| 20:21.22 | zenzelezz | Wey: complete unit frames or just bars? |
| 20:21.59 | sysrage | geo: yes they ahve |
| 20:22.06 | sysrage | have* |
| 20:22.12 | GeoMance` | That sucks. |
| 20:22.17 | zenzelezz | GeoMance`: you can turn them back on |
| 20:22.22 | Tuller | GeoMance`: error messages are turned off, you can turn them back on in the options menu |
| 20:22.24 | GeoMance` | In the Interface? |
| 20:22.26 | Tuller | interface options that is |
| 20:22.30 | zenzelezz | either with some setting or using an addon that shows them |
| 20:22.39 | Shirik | any addons that do a seterrorhandler() |
| 20:22.41 | Shirik | will override that option |
| 20:22.52 | Shirik | that is for the default error handler and the default one only |
| 20:22.52 | GeoMance` | Yay. |
| 20:25.26 | ckknight | Wey: I haven't added it yet |
| 20:27.18 | Punkie` | Nerinia: If you have a bit of experience with the GetSpellCooldown can you take a look at something for me please? :) |
| 20:27.23 | GeoMance` | Crap. xD |
| 20:27.44 | TC-Working | so, any obvious significant changes with the patch? |
| 20:27.57 | TC-Working | i havent played yet today |
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| 20:35.31 | GeoMance` | Yay, my thing is looking thing like! |
| 20:38.24 | Wey | zenzelezz: doesnt matter, i think (sorry for slow reply) |
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| 20:38.41 | Wey | Any will do, for now ;] |
| 20:40.59 | zenzelezz | I believe there are several "stat bar" addons around, that mostly just show vertical health/power bars |
| 20:42.19 | Kaydeethree | oh wow. I feel special |
| 20:42.23 | Kaydeethree | slouken stickied my thread |
| 20:42.51 | TC-Working | gratz Kaydeethree |
| 20:43.26 | GeoMance` | O.o Wouldn't a vertical bar be easy to do, regardless? |
| 20:44.59 | Shirik | cool Kaydeethree :) |
| 20:46.33 | TC-Working | ~cheer Kaydeethree |
| 20:47.00 | purl | ACTION cheers Kaydeethree on |
| 20:47.00 | zenzelezz | GeoMance`: bars in themselves are no problem; but I don't know if anyone made complete unitframes with them... would be interesting to see |
| 20:50.57 | GeoMance` | Ahhh. |
| 20:51.13 | Shirik | I love how people are mad that they removed the memory usage thing on the addons screen |
| 20:51.21 | Shirik | without even understanding that setting that causes bad things |
| 20:51.59 | Kaydeethree | oh wow. a third of the stickies just disappeared. |
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| 20:53.00 | Wey | thanks for the answer zenzelezz :] The reason I'm asking is that I'm building an UI based on the one used in Baldur's Gate 2 |
| 20:53.38 | Wey | I've got most of it covered fairly well, but I really really want the portraits to "drown" in red, to show damage taken |
| 20:53.38 | Wey | I could write that myself but I try to avoid it because I'm a horrible coder :p |
| 20:55.42 | foxlit | Giving performance data to end users = no-no |
| 20:59.49 | Cair | fiddle - what's the name of the place where you can host pictures? the really common one everyone knows? I can't remember atm |
| 21:00.07 | Cair | anyone? anyone? Beueller? |
| 21:00.10 | sergio | flickr? |
| 21:00.15 | Kaydeethree | imageshack |
| 21:00.19 | sergio | or do you mean just random pictures |
| 21:00.22 | Cair | thanks Kaydeethree |
| 21:00.26 | krka | pr0nthumbs.com? |
| 21:00.27 | Kaydeethree | np |
| 21:00.43 | Cair | rofl |
| 21:00.56 | krka | damn it, thought out loud again |
| 21:01.19 | Kaydeethree | heh, the funny thing is... mozilla's internal image libary's called libpr0n |
| 21:01.28 | Shirik | 16:52:36 ‹Kaydeethree› oh wow. a third of the stickies just disappeared. |
| 21:01.30 | sysrage | holy crap. looks like all my mods are actually working.. won't know for sure until my server comes back up, but the main ones work on a noob on a diff server |
| 21:01.30 | Shirik | yeah I saw that too |
| 21:01.44 | Shirik | sysrage: Seriously |
| 21:01.49 | Shirik | not many addons should have broken |
| 21:01.54 | sysrage | cool |
| 21:01.57 | Shirik | only ones that hooked functions stupidly |
| 21:01.57 | Kaydeethree | I haven't even logged in yet |
| 21:01.58 | krka | has there been a major patch now? |
| 21:02.01 | krka | and if so, what did it do? |
| 21:02.02 | Shirik | or ones that used IsFeignDeath() |
| 21:02.03 | Kaydeethree | it's 5 now, maybe medivh's finally up |
| 21:03.15 | sysrage | zul'jin isn't |
| 21:03.27 | sysrage | don't see medivh either |
| 21:03.34 | Shirik | eredar isn't |
| 21:03.55 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.05 | Kaydeethree | guess this is as good of a time as any to run to the store and get batteries |
| 21:04.09 | foxlit | How good is the feign death function? |
| 21:04.32 | foxlit | There's typically a delay between dead and feigning states for friendly targets |
| 21:04.35 | Shirik | awesomeness |
| 21:04.47 | Shirik | it's just as good as IsFeignDeath() was |
| 21:05.01 | foxlit | and how good was that? |
| 21:05.08 | foxlit | I looked for Ability_Rogue_FeignDeath in buffs |
| 21:06.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | my server's still not up >:[ |
| 21:06.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want epic flight form dammit |
| 21:07.03 | Shirik | neither is mine hun |
| 21:07.03 | Shirik | is ok |
| 21:08.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | no its not >:[ |
| 21:08.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm looking forward to my 5 druid heroic sethekk run though |
| 21:08.16 | [dRaCo] | bear, 2 cats, tree, owl? :> |
| 21:09.10 | sysrage | nice. that dumb launcher window doesn't come up anymore it just runs the game! |
| 21:09.41 | foxlit | CC is going to suck |
| 21:10.16 | [dRaCo] | they'll just tank everything and have the owl dps 'em down |
| 21:10.20 | [dRaCo] | (lol) |
| 21:10.31 | dukeku | i slice yo ass thin as salami |
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| 21:11.48 | AnduinLothar | so which ace libs need updating for 2.1? |
| 21:11.59 | AnduinLothar | seems all ym ace addons blew up |
| 21:12.37 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: AceEvent |
| 21:12.41 | Josh_Borke | broke everything |
| 21:12.52 | Josh_Borke | yous hould have gotten a 'pleasant' error |
| 21:13.10 | AnduinLothar | nah i got 50 errors instead |
| 21:13.19 | sysrage | i still friggin love the original wow cinematic |
| 21:13.19 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 21:13.30 | Shirik | 50 pleasant errors? |
| 21:13.33 | Shadowed | All I did |
| 21:13.36 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: :-( not bumping major revision ftl |
| 21:13.41 | Shadowed | was uncomment the stupid popup code, and problem solved |
| 21:13.47 | Shadowed | er, comment out |
| 21:13.52 | AnduinLothar | what's that josh? |
| 21:14.24 | AnduinLothar | i never downloaded the ace libs i onyl have what was embedded in things liek ora2 fubar and a few others |
| 21:14.28 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: if you haven't updated ace addons in a while, then the issue is that about 20 revisions ago they changed AceEvent to create a frame for each addon (to allow for better profiling) but broke backwards compatibility |
| 21:14.48 | AnduinLothar | they broke compat >.< |
| 21:14.50 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 21:15.10 | sysrage | WUU tells you which ace mods have embedded libraries that need to be updated :P |
| 21:15.43 | AnduinLothar | pretend i'm a normal addon user... |
| 21:15.43 | sysrage | heh |
| 21:15.44 | sysrage | just update all wowace addons then :P |
| 21:16.06 | AnduinLothar | mreh, fine |
| 21:16.11 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: update all addons :-P |
| 21:16.18 | AnduinLothar | all MY addons work |
| 21:16.28 | AnduinLothar | onyl one that broke was Arch |
| 21:16.30 | Josh_Borke | s/all/all ace/ |
| 21:16.44 | AnduinLothar | ok so.... where can i dl wuu |
| 21:16.46 | Josh_Borke | anyone know of people getting drakes? |
| 21:16.48 | AnduinLothar | or |
| 21:16.51 | AnduinLothar | does it not work on mac |
| 21:16.58 | Josh_Borke | there are several people on my server with drakes already |
| 21:17.08 | zenzelezz | how? |
| 21:17.10 | AnduinLothar | you could easily grind the rep b4 |
| 21:17.11 | Josh_Borke | dunno |
| 21:17.17 | Josh_Borke | rep only up to neutral |
| 21:17.20 | sysrage | wuu.vagabonds.info |
| 21:17.21 | zenzelezz | I thought so too |
| 21:17.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, the cosmos patcher and the ace patcher are fighting now |
| 21:17.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 21:17.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | on atlasloot |
| 21:17.41 | AnduinLothar | oh? |
| 21:17.44 | sysrage | mr_rabies: use wuu for both :P |
| 21:17.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tried |
| 21:17.49 | AnduinLothar | nopatch it |
| 21:17.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | not my cup of tea |
| 21:17.57 | sysrage | i love it |
| 21:18.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem is, the ace patcher deletes the nopatch, AL |
| 21:18.07 | AnduinLothar | lame |
| 21:18.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and disabling cosmos addons in the consolidated nopatch doesn't seem to work |
| 21:18.26 | AnduinLothar | use the single nopatch |
| 21:18.32 | sysrage | last time i used cosmos updater it didn't use nopatch files anymore. you just click the manage addons button and tell it ones not to touch |
| 21:18.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it's flagged as a cosmos addon it seems to update regardless |
| 21:18.42 | AnduinLothar | ok, then set it to install disabled? |
| 21:18.51 | sysrage | oh, ya |
| 21:19.01 | sysrage | i had that problem. i think that's why i started looking for other updaters and found wuu |
| 21:19.16 | Tain | Would it be possible to humbly make my recommendation again to remove that whole nopatch stuff from Cosmos entirely? |
| 21:19.48 | AnduinLothar | sure, you wanna rewrite the patcher? |
| 21:19.51 | Josh_Borke | tain and humble don't seem to fit together |
| 21:20.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's an option in there to tell it not to delete any addons, just like the ace updater :O |
| 21:20.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | but when they change paths and stuff sometimes the old paths still halfway try to work and break |
| 21:22.48 | GeoMance` | Wheeee. |
| 21:23.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | happened with pitbull the other day |
| 21:23.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had 2 mana bars :O |
| 21:23.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | becase it was loading pitbull_mana and pitbull_power(which is the new path) |
| 21:24.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i had to turn on deleting of old versions, but i guess i can turn it back off until something breaks again |
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| 21:24.06 | AnduinLothar | :D my decapitator is 92.1 dps 1h woot |
| 21:24.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | my paws are 55 dps |
| 21:24.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 21:24.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | they kinda forgot to let our paw dps go up from 61-70 |
| 21:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | they go up from 1-60 and then sit at 55 dps :[ |
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| 21:27.41 | Gnarfoz | format(LFM_NAME_TEMPLATE, name, level, class) <-- if I replace LFM_NAME_TEMPLATE with a function, format complains. is there any magic I can do to make it not complain? help -.- |
| 21:28.24 | GeoMance` | What does the function return? |
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| 21:28.48 | Gnarfoz | I made it return the string that LFM_NAME_TEMPLATE was, before I replaced it |
| 21:29.04 | Gnarfoz | just to test if I could replace it that way to dynamically change the template :) |
| 21:29.15 | GeoMance` | Then, try something like local thing = function () then do format(thing, ... ) |
| 21:29.25 | GeoMance` | I'm not sure if that'll help at all, though. ^^: |
| 21:29.51 | Gnarfoz | I thought that's the situation I already created, but I'll try a totally stand-alone test, anyway :) |
| 21:30.21 | krka | what is "format"? |
| 21:30.34 | krka | string.format? |
| 21:30.54 | Kaydeethree | aha... knew it |
| 21:31.02 | Kaydeethree | The hardware upgrades being installed for the below realms are taking longer than we had originally anticipated, and we are now estimating that these realms will require an additional two hours and be up at approximately 4:00 PM PDT. We apologize for this delay and appreciate your continued patience during this extended maintenance. |
| 21:31.17 | Shirik | ........... |
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| 21:31.17 | Shirik | qq |
| 21:31.17 | Shirik | oh well |
| 21:31.23 | Shirik | my priest gonna get some good levels today |
| 21:31.23 | Josh_Borke | there are other servers |
| 21:31.29 | Kaydeethree | my original sarcastic call of not being able to play til thursday still holds true... |
| 21:31.39 | Punkie`` | Nerinia: Sorry I got disconnected and am not authed with this temp name, thanks for the help ^^ |
| 21:31.39 | Gnarfoz | krka: I guess it is, blizzard's code just calls format() |
| 21:32.16 | krka | the first argument to string.format must be a string |
| 21:32.19 | krka | not a function |
| 21:32.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 21:33.05 | Shirik | string.format == format |
| 21:33.09 | Shirik | == _G.format |
| 21:33.11 | Gnarfoz | in wow, that is :) |
| 21:33.14 | Shirik | ya |
| 21:33.23 | Shirik | I use string.format anyway but |
| 21:33.26 | Shirik | just throwing that out there |
| 21:33.31 | krka | == _G.format == _G._G.format == .. |
| 21:33.35 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:34.10 | Shirik | == loadstring(string.rep("_G.",n).."format") |
| 21:34.31 | krka | touche |
| 21:34.43 | nymbia | this could get ugly fast. |
| 21:34.56 | nymbia | wait til he starts breaking out the setfenv's! |
| 21:35.05 | Shirik | omg |
| 21:35.19 | Shirik | == loadstring(string.rep("_G.getfenv(0).",n).."format") |
| 21:35.21 | Shirik | rawr! |
| 21:35.23 | Moskau | anyone know the enchant ID range of the black temple gems? |
| 21:35.33 | Shirik | == loadstring(string.rep("_G.getfenv(0).getglobal\"_G\"",n).."format") |
| 21:35.34 | Shirik | yes! |
| 21:36.50 | Shirik | >>> n = 100; assert(loadstring(string.rep("_G.getfenv(0).getglobal\"_G\"",n).."format")() == _G) |
| 21:36.51 | Cide | Shirik: [string "n = 100; assert(loadstring(string.rep("_G.g..."]:1: attempt to call a nil value |
| 21:37.12 | Moskau | Shirik: may i ask, what are you doing o_O |
| 21:37.17 | Shirik | messing around tbh |
| 21:37.24 | Moskau | fancy lua :( |
| 21:37.26 | zenzelezz | >>> assert() |
| 21:37.26 | Cide | zenzelezz: [string "assert()"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'assert' (value expected) |
| 21:37.32 | Shirik | finding the most obfuscated way to get to string.format |
| 21:37.37 | zenzelezz | I'm a bad person |
| 21:37.38 | Moskau | rofl |
| 21:37.45 | Moskau | wow, didn't know cide had a lua bot o_O |
| 21:37.51 | Cide | >>> n = 100; assert(loadstring(string.rep("_G.getfenv(0).getglobal\"_G\"",n)..".format")() == _G) |
| 21:37.51 | Cide | Cide: [string "n = 100; assert(loadstring(string.rep("_G.g..."]:1: attempt to call a nil value |
| 21:37.53 | Moskau | purty cool. |
| 21:38.01 | Cide | >>> n = 100; assert(loadstring(string.rep("_G.getfenv(0).getglobal\"_G\".",n).."format")() == _G) |
| 21:38.01 | Cide | Cide: [string "n = 100; assert(loadstring(string.rep("_G.g..."]:1: attempt to call a nil value |
| 21:38.03 | Shirik | >>> assert(getfenv(0).getglobal ~= 0) |
| 21:38.03 | Cide | Shirik: true |
| 21:38.10 | Shirik | >>> assert(getfenv(0).getglobal ~= nil) |
| 21:38.11 | Cide | Shirik: true |
| 21:38.49 | Gnarfoz | as my question seems to be too weird - any ideas how I'd find out if I can safely replace Blizzard's LFMFrame_Update() function without tainting everything left and right? |
| 21:39.01 | Shirik | replace? no |
| 21:39.02 | Cide | >>> n = 100; assert(loadstring("return " .. string.rep("_G.getfenv(0).getglobal\"_G\".",n).."format")() == string.format) |
| 21:39.02 | Cide | Cide: nil |
| 21:39.05 | Shirik | you could potentially hook it |
| 21:39.14 | Shirik | oh oops |
| 21:39.16 | Shirik | thanks cide |
| 21:39.31 | Cide | yep! |
| 21:39.51 | Moskau | if nobody knows the enchantIDs of the new BT gems, does anyone know of a way to derive em? >< |
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| 21:40.01 | zenzelezz | farm BT |
| 21:40.01 | Moskau | I keep DCing guessing IDs qq |
| 21:40.13 | Shirik | you'll still DC if you get it right |
| 21:40.17 | Moskau | no... |
| 21:40.21 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:40.23 | Moskau | No. |
| 21:40.26 | Moskau | you can link the gems. |
| 21:40.27 | Shirik | If the server hasn't seen it |
| 21:40.29 | Shirik | it will DC you |
| 21:40.30 | Moskau | the recipes are vendored. |
| 21:40.33 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:40.39 | Moskau | the uncut gems, maybe, but the cut gems are linkable. |
| 21:40.47 | Moskau | however, I'm looking for enchantID that I can put in a link |
| 21:41.23 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: isn't a non-safe hook mostly a replacement that calls the original? |
| 21:41.29 | Shirik | correct |
| 21:41.37 | Shirik | I don't know what you are doing though |
| 21:41.39 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:42.00 | Gnarfoz | I'm trying to add something to the Tooltip that appears when you hover over a group (or someone) in the LFM frame |
| 21:42.03 | krka | >>> n = 100; assert(loadstring("return " ..string.rep("_G.", n).."string.rep")() == string.rep) |
| 21:42.03 | Cide | krka: nil |
| 21:42.13 | Gnarfoz | (which shows the group members, their class & levels) |
| 21:44.35 | Gnarfoz | heh, someone in #lua suggested I replace string.format ;D |
| 21:44.42 | Gnarfoz | I'll try if that works ;D |
| 21:45.26 | Shirik | no |
| 21:45.27 | Shirik | don't do that |
| 21:46.11 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: why not just check for the frame being open when SetUnitTooltip (or whatever event) fires on GameTooltip? |
| 21:46.12 | foxlit | Hm, yesterdays magic code should've been a = function(a) b = coroutine.create(a); coroutine.resume(b,a); end a(a); |
| 21:47.00 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: I'm not sure I understand what you suggested :) |
| 21:48.25 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: let me back up. what are you trying to do? |
| 21:48.37 | Gnarfoz | I'm trying to add a string to each line inside the tooltip that appears when you hover over someones name in the blizzard LFM frame |
| 21:48.51 | Gnarfoz | that tooltip contains their name + their chosen comment |
| 21:49.01 | Gnarfoz | actually |
| 21:49.03 | Gnarfoz | name, level, class |
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| 21:49.14 | Josh_Borke | so, events get fired whenever GameTooltip:SetX is called |
| 21:49.15 | Gnarfoz | and if the group already has members, then their's too |
| 21:50.21 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 21:50.34 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 21:50.39 | Josh_Borke | see what events fire for GameTooltip when you hover over the names |
| 21:50.54 | Josh_Borke | hook into those events and replace the contents of the tooltip |
| 21:50.58 | Gnarfoz | I'm looking at the LFM frame's code |
| 21:51.13 | Gnarfoz | don't see any units being tossed around there |
| 21:52.01 | Josh_Borke | i'm sure, but i doubt you'd find any code that deals with hovering over someone in the world frame triggering the mouse over unit tooltip being show |
| 21:52.07 | KarlThePagan | is lejordet or anyone connected to WUU around? |
| 21:52.16 | Josh_Borke | or is it just doing SetText? |
| 21:53.34 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: AddLine |
| 21:53.55 | Gnarfoz | and the variables used in that are from GetLFGPartyResults(<stuff>) |
| 21:54.40 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: ok, so hook OnTooltipCleared, check for the frame being open, if it is, save the lines in the tooltip then add them back modified |
| 21:55.11 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: Can you post-hook it? |
| 21:55.18 | Shirik | Or.... are you trying to modify something? |
| 21:55.25 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: add stuff on to each line |
| 21:55.33 | Gnarfoz | like a further comment to each player in that group |
| 21:55.34 | Shirik | so like... in the middle |
| 21:55.34 | Shirik | eew |
| 21:55.52 | Gnarfoz | that's why I first looked at the point where it adds each line |
| 21:56.03 | Gnarfoz | because if I modify the line right there, it's not so ugly :> |
| 21:56.42 | Josh_Borke | you can hook SetText whenever the frame gets shown |
| 21:56.49 | Josh_Borke | or just rewrite the entire function |
| 21:57.33 | Gnarfoz | which would be what I suggested, right? replace the entire function, because it's global anyway |
| 21:58.22 | Gnarfoz | actually, I'd really just make the format template a local var, add one placeholder, change the call to format and cram what I want added in the var at the appropriate place |
| 21:58.30 | Gnarfoz | and the rest would be the same |
| 21:58.38 | AnduinLothar | so i don't need to update everything |
| 21:58.49 | AnduinLothar | it was my PallyPower with AceEvent r33858 |
| 21:59.01 | AnduinLothar | breakign everything. all the old code works |
| 21:59.01 | Josh_Borke | ROFL. you downgraded it? |
| 21:59.13 | Josh_Borke | that's so awesome |
| 21:59.21 | Gnarfoz | leaves the risk of tainting stuff. any good way to find out if I'd taint anything by doing that? |
| 21:59.28 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: try it i'd say |
| 21:59.36 | foxlit | Do it and do issecurevariable() scan? |
| 22:00.34 | Gnarfoz | I'll try trying :> |
| 22:00.45 | Gnarfoz | thanks so far, gonna do some experimenting :D |
| 22:00.59 | Gnarfoz | oh blergh |
| 22:01.07 | Gnarfoz | I chose the worst day to have an idea like this :D |
| 22:01.21 | Gnarfoz | nm |
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| 22:03.35 | KarlThePagan | WUU will be broken for ace addons |
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| 22:03.58 | Deathface | hey...anyone with ag_unitframes havin the same issue as me? |
| 22:04.02 | Deathface | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.29 | Mike-N-Go | Greetings. |
| 22:04.29 | zenzelezz | you haven't yet realized your full potential |
| 22:05.11 | Deathface | ? |
| 22:05.13 | Deathface | so no one? :P |
| 22:05.21 | Deathface | this sucks :( |
| 22:05.24 | zenzelezz | was a joke |
| 22:05.27 | Shirik | Deathface: I've heard nothing but problems with ag_uf today |
| 22:05.27 | Shirik | tbh |
| 22:05.29 | zenzelezz | and give it some time, impatent bugger |
| 22:05.34 | zenzelezz | *impatient |
| 22:05.41 | Shirik | have you checked for updates? |
| 22:05.41 | Deathface | guess ill reinstall it, shrug |
| 22:05.42 | zenzelezz | people don't monitor the channel constantly |
| 22:05.57 | zenzelezz | except for Cairenn |
| 22:06.10 | Shirik | she's not a peope |
| 22:06.12 | Shirik | people* |
| 22:06.13 | Shirik | she's a god |
| 22:06.24 | Shirik | goddess* |
| 22:06.25 | nevcairiel | if anyone encounters any weird issues with actionbar or other addons using the secure templates, try disabling AutoBar .. it seems to cause some conflicts. |
| 22:06.32 | nevcairiel | And with that, i leave, g'nite |
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| 22:11.25 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104577600&sid=1 |
| 22:11.35 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: (I filed a bug report re: kill -9 ;-) |
| 22:11.52 | Bleeter | gnight nevcairiel, rest well |
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| 22:12.25 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 22:12.31 | Kaydeethree | nice |
| 22:13.10 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 22:13.18 | sysrage | rambo ftw |
| 22:13.24 | Cair | http://www.roflcat.com/dont-worry-im-from-tech-suppoert.php |
| 22:13.47 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 22:15.17 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 22:15.18 | Gnarfoz | it werks |
| 22:15.29 | Gnarfoz | but just for group members, not for the leader, or single people |
| 22:15.54 | Gnarfoz | guess that's (for some, I guess, WEIRD) reason done somewhere else |
| 22:17.21 | sysrage | what an odd use of parends.. i had to re-read that line 5 times before i could figure out wtf you were saying |
| 22:18.03 | zenzelezz | seemed logical to me |
| 22:18.14 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 22:18.17 | Gnarfoz | he's right |
| 22:18.26 | Mike-N-Go | Hum, I have just finished downloading the patch for my mac, now the Blizzard Updater is blinking the text 'Waiting for files to close..' |
| 22:18.27 | Gnarfoz | the "reason" should belong inside the parentheses :D |
| 22:18.31 | sysrage | heh ya |
| 22:19.07 | sysrage | so close the files, mike :P |
| 22:19.12 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:20.21 | Mike-N-Go | sysrage: It does not say what files. |
| 22:20.29 | sysrage | :) |
| 22:21.04 | TC-Working | oh you know..."the files" |
| 22:23.01 | Mike-N-Go | I've quit the Blizzard Downloader.. |
| 22:23.28 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, it finally decided to progress, yay =] |
| 22:25.10 | Tuller | So, http://tullamods.googlecode.com/files/Bongos20.9.zip |
| 22:25.13 | Tuller | its not complete, but if people want to test it, use it :) |
| 22:25.51 | Tuller | be aware the right click menus for actionbars will be scary, since I have not added tabs yet |
| 22:26.06 | Tuller | also, I have not been able to test any pet classes yet :) |
| 22:27.29 | Gnarfoz | <foxlit> Do it and do issecurevariable() scan? <-- coming back to that, how would I go about this? :) |
| 22:29.12 | Shirik | UnitBuff() returns duration for all buffs? |
| 22:29.15 | Shirik | I thought just ones you cast? |
| 22:32.08 | cladhaire | just ones you cast |
| 22:32.16 | cladhaire | lrn2-4weeksago |
| 22:32.29 | Gnarfoz | is issecurevariable new in 2.1? |
| 22:32.32 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:32.33 | Gnarfoz | or just the second return val |
| 22:32.39 | cladhaire | the latter |
| 22:32.42 | Shirik | cladhaire |
| 22:32.44 | Shirik | that's what I thought but |
| 22:32.45 | cladhaire | Shirik: |
| 22:32.52 | Gnarfoz | hrm, how do I use the function then? I'm confused :D |
| 22:33.00 | Shirik | the UI is totally telling me everything |
| 22:33.01 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 22:33.07 | Gnarfoz | stupid me :> |
| 22:33.11 | Shirik | unless omniCC did something strange |
| 22:33.22 | Shirik | I can even see feign death, etc. |
| 22:33.34 | Tuller | omnicc works on the new buff timer displays |
| 22:33.44 | Bleeter | Cair: awesome tech support pic, thx :) |
| 22:33.49 | Cair | hehehe |
| 22:33.51 | Shirik | right |
| 22:33.56 | Cair | I liked it when I saw it |
| 22:33.59 | Shirik | shouldn't it not be able to show anything but what I cast? |
| 22:34.08 | zenzelezz | my favorite "tech support" cat picture is the kitten with the "Wait, I'll fix it" caption |
| 22:34.12 | Shirik | I'm fairly certain I didn't cast feign death on him |
| 22:38.14 | Gnarfoz | you sure? |
| 22:38.15 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 22:39.49 | Gnarfoz | is there issecurefunction? |
| 22:39.53 | Shirik | .. |
| 22:39.57 | Shirik | a function is a variable! |
| 22:39.59 | Gnarfoz | no there's not :D |
| 22:39.59 | Shirik | Always remember that! |
| 22:40.04 | Gnarfoz | I thought so |
| 22:40.09 | Shirik | Most important aspect of Lua! |
| 22:40.13 | Gnarfoz | but why does issecurevariable complain then? |
| 22:40.19 | Shirik | what did you pass it? |
| 22:40.36 | Gnarfoz | yea... |
| 22:40.44 | Shirik | a function? |
| 22:40.47 | Gnarfoz | guess I forgot some ""'s |
| 22:40.47 | Shirik | when it accepts a string? |
| 22:40.49 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:41.22 | Gnarfoz | should get sleep so I don't need to sleep the entire non-work part of tomorrow just to recover from lack of sleep the last few days ;> |
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| 22:41.38 | Gnarfoz | hm, my replaced function is not secure :< |
| 22:41.57 | Gnarfoz | one is, the other isn't |
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| 22:42.03 | Shirik | of course it isn't |
| 22:42.06 | Gnarfoz | I wonder why that is |
| 22:42.09 | Shirik | your stuff isn't secure |
| 22:42.17 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:42.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 minutes until my server apparently comes up |
| 22:42.33 | Gnarfoz | I replaced two functions because party members are done separately |
| 22:42.35 | kergoth | your stuff isnt secure -by definition- :P |
| 22:42.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:O |
| 22:42.56 | Gnarfoz | issecurevariable says one is secure oO |
| 22:42.57 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: You mean 20 minutes until they post another extension announcement |
| 22:43.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah more or less |
| 22:46.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I fucked up that smiley up there |
| 22:46.45 | Gnarfoz | 'course it's supposed to be insecure |
| 22:46.58 | Gnarfoz | but I replaced two functions, and one still counts as secure? oO |
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| 22:52.37 | Bleeter | Cair: I hope Kirkburn|afk got that cat pic, given how crazy he is about... erm.. pussies |
| 22:52.46 | Cair | heh |
| 22:52.51 | Kirkburn|afk | wha?! |
| 22:53.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Gimmeh! |
| 22:53.48 | AnduinLothar | so i was gonna try wuu |
| 22:53.57 | AnduinLothar | but I have python 2.5 installed |
| 22:54.05 | AnduinLothar | through fink |
| 22:54.31 | AnduinLothar | and apparently the wxpython build for OS X only works with the default python 2.3 |
| 22:54.47 | AnduinLothar | and the 3rd party compile doesn't work |
| 22:54.51 | Cair | http://www.roflcat.com/dont-worry-im-from-tech-suppoert.php |
| 22:55.03 | cladhaire | Anyone familiar with state headers around? |
| 22:55.05 | AnduinLothar | and the http://www.wxpython.org/BUILD.html page makes me cry |
| 22:55.14 | Kirkburn|afk | awww :D |
| 22:55.16 | AnduinLothar | and is followed by http://www.wxpython.org/INSTALL.html |
| 22:55.27 | Kirkburn|afk | kitteh! |
| 22:55.29 | TC-Working | WUU doesnt work anyways |
| 23:00.55 | sysrage | works for me |
| 23:01.00 | sysrage | perfectly |
| 23:01.22 | sysrage | oh. on a mac? |
| 23:01.22 | sysrage | haven't tried that |
| 23:01.59 | TC-Working | would this http://www.boredstop.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=86&Itemid=34 work to not go afk in BG's? |
| 23:02.11 | TC-Working | bah, WUU doesnt work for me on PC |
| 23:02.17 | sysrage | lol rolling restarts already? |
| 23:02.18 | TC-Working | s/PC/a PC/ |
| 23:02.34 | sysrage | what does it do? or not do? |
| 23:02.48 | TC-Working | Well, it's a $30 USB dongle that nudges your mouse around so the screen saver doesn't come on |
| 23:02.54 | cladhaire | dongle zomg. |
| 23:03.08 | Kaydeethree | what the hell? |
| 23:03.14 | Kaydeethree | just disable the screensaver? |
| 23:03.15 | sysrage | and that usb thing would only work if you can get it to hold both buttons down while it moves |
| 23:03.26 | TC-Working | tape them down? |
| 23:03.39 | TC-Working | no...it overwrites the mouse i think |
| 23:03.43 | sysrage | probably |
| 23:07.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | jeez |
| 23:07.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | the new ace updater |
| 23:07.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | is like a laser |
| 23:07.42 | Bleeter | Cair: did you see http://www.roflcat.com/im-in-ur-akount-sharding-ur-purplz.php |
| 23:07.56 | Cair | yeah, saw that one before, it's cute |
| 23:09.39 | Bleeter | make me wonder what the cat saw to react like that |
| 23:09.41 | Bleeter | makes |
| 23:10.00 | Garoun|Loupana | :P http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewbaldwin/492000466/ |
| 23:10.40 | Cair | hahaha |
| 23:12.30 | Garoun|Loupana | that roflcat goes very well with the dr who episode that was on this weekend |
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| 23:13.28 | Kaelten | hows it going guys |
| 23:14.18 | GeoMance` | Going surprisingly well. |
| 23:14.55 | GeoMance` | I just wish I had a text thing that would fill up faster. xD |
| 23:15.09 | Josh_Borke | hi kael |
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| 23:19.24 | sysrage | friggin bastards are gonna restart all the realms that are up before bringing the others up aren't they? |
| 23:19.31 | sysrage | s/are/were/ |
| 23:19.43 | sysrage | wrong are, purl |
| 23:19.43 | Kaydeethree | meh. I still haven't tried to log on to Medivh |
| 23:20.10 | sysrage | medivh isn't up yet |
| 23:20.16 | Shirik | neither is eredar :D |
| 23:20.42 | Shirik | hehe |
| 23:21.00 | Industrial | Hows this? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LI0xzhbZVVzugxkVzVoc |
| 23:21.14 | GeoMance` | FontStrings can't have events set to them, right? |
| 23:21.26 | Industrial | GeoMance`: no |
| 23:22.10 | Gnarfoz | can I "unset" color codes? |
| 23:22.15 | Gnarfoz | like... just |c ? |
| 23:22.19 | Shirik | |r |
| 23:22.30 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 23:22.31 | Gnarfoz | thx :) |
| 23:24.04 | Bleeter | heh, thorium brotherhood realm's totally bugged out. can't /say, /yell, talk to NPCs, /trade and /guild working fine. |
| 23:24.23 | sysrage | rolling restarts |
| 23:24.32 | Bleeter | I also hear on the grapevine that mail's bugged, and probably advisable not to do anything with your mailbox |
| 23:25.01 | shukra | darn i just mailed a whole mess of stuff to myself |
| 23:25.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | my server's not up :O |
| 23:25.03 | zenzelezz | it's the new anti-gold-seller system |
| 23:25.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're fixing it, bleeter |
| 23:25.11 | zenzelezz | by not being able to use mail or chat, you can't receive gold spam |
| 23:25.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha zenz |
| 23:25.27 | Bleeter | yup, k, thx for the feedback folks :) luvyaz! |
| 23:25.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll start spelling the spam with corpses zenz |
| 23:25.44 | Kaydeethree | hahaha |
| 23:25.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | do not underestimate gold spam |
| 23:26.20 | zenzelezz | when the chat server went down in AO, people would drop objects on the ground (they showed up as small "?" boxes) to spell buff abbreviations |
| 23:26.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit llane come back up |
| 23:26.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | you've been down since 2am PST okay |
| 23:26.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's about time |
| 23:26.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | Garona didn't hit you that hard |
| 23:27.05 | Bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: you like going down, so don't lie! :P |
| 23:27.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i told you to keep that to PMs >:[ |
| 23:27.25 | Bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.04 | Gnarfoz | yay, done :D |
| 23:31.43 | Gnarfoz | sadly, I'll have to redo what I just did later today, because 2.1 changes the LFM frame |
| 23:32.30 | TC-Working | see it's comments like those Mr_Rabies2 & Bleeter, that make me imagine Cair just reading and laughing at you |
| 23:32.53 | Cair | *grins wickedly* |
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| 23:33.12 | Bleeter | at us? not *with* us?! :'( |
| 23:33.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | rereading my context substituting llane for King Llane makes things pretty interesting |
| 23:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, my text up there |
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| 23:39.36 | GeoMance` | Do you know what would set the height of a FontString, without calling anything to set its height? |
| 23:40.00 | GeoMance` | Never mind. xD |
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| 23:41.44 | Cair | later guys |
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| 23:42.07 | Josh_Borke | GeoMance`: SetFont? |
| 23:42.23 | GeoMance` | I forget to set it to wrap no-space strings. |
| 23:42.29 | GeoMance` | Rather than Truncate them. |
| 23:42.39 | Bleeter | cya cair |
| 23:42.41 | Gnarfoz | does anyone have a 2.1.0 LFGFrame.lua handy? I'm still on 2.0 (EU) and my PTR client doesn't have the latest build |
| 23:43.05 | Josh_Borke | Gnarfoz: did you check wdn.wowinterface.com? |
| 23:43.13 | Gnarfoz | can't connect |
| 23:43.24 | Gnarfoz | wowi seems crowded? :D |
| 23:43.27 | Josh_Borke | ok bye |
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| 23:43.42 | Gnarfoz | or more like 'down' ;) |
| 23:43.53 | Gnarfoz | ah now it works |
| 23:43.55 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 23:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to go to the nearest veternarian's office and start beating up some puppies and kittens if my server doesn't come back up soon |
| 23:45.11 | GeoMance` | The hell? They're resetting servers again. O.o |
| 23:45.13 | zenzelezz | for a moment there I thought you were going to the vet since you're a drood :-| |
| 23:45.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do need my rabies shots HAR HARRRRR |
| 23:47.32 | sysrage | YAY! |
| 23:47.34 | sysrage | my servers up |
| 23:47.41 | kergoth | yay |
| 23:47.52 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, play at your own risk on patch day! |
| 23:48.13 | Shirik | sysrage: You're on what server? |
| 23:48.24 | Corrodias | we're supposed to hit karazhan tonight |
| 23:48.27 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: poking is insufficient ;) :P |
| 23:48.33 | Corrodias | although i signed up at person number 16 so i might not be going |
| 23:48.39 | Corrodias | my position as a tank means it's likely i will be anyway, though |
| 23:48.50 | Corrodias | i think we have four |
| 23:48.57 | Shirik | woot my server's up :D |
| 23:49.02 | Bleeter | it's patch day, your position is unreliable from the getgo :P |
| 23:49.03 | Corrodias | two of us are druids, so we can double as melee dps |
| 23:49.05 | Shirik | well |
| 23:49.10 | Shirik | retrieving character list........................ |
| 23:49.10 | sysrage | zul'jin |
| 23:49.33 | Corrodias | and one of the other tanks plays one of our priests. so it's usually a warrior, a druid, that priest, and the rest |
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| 23:51.11 | Corrodias | okay, NOW i can't find the torrent that has partial patch number 2, even with the downloader running |
| 23:51.33 | Corrodias | i guess i just have to let my connection get molested while i clean the cat box |
| 23:51.39 | GeoMance` | Rolling restarts. |
| 23:54.48 | Bleeter | I saw something 'odd' last night on PTR, a toon called 'Frostmage' that looked like Eyonix's forum avatar. Was wondering if I've missed something about mages, loot, or whether it might've actually been him. |
| 23:55.40 | zenzelezz | sure it was a mage? |
| 23:55.45 | sysrage | shirik did it let you in? |
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| 23:55.51 | Shirik | no qq |
| 23:55.52 | sysrage | i've been stuck at the loading screen for like 10 min |
| 23:56.04 | Kaydeethree | yay retrieving char list |
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| 23:56.31 | GeoMance` | That doesn't mean anything, Kaydee. >.> |
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| 23:56.55 | Kaydeethree | I've been stuck there for 20m |
| 23:56.58 | Zxcvb | are addons sandboxed at all? |
| 23:57.01 | Kaydeethree | more of a sarcastic "yay" |
| 23:57.09 | JoshBorke | Zxcvb: yes |
| 23:57.09 | Kaydeethree | yes, there's no outside communication |
| 23:57.39 | Zxcvb | so they can only write to WTF/Account/<account name>/whatever |
| 23:57.49 | zenzelezz | they can't write at all |
| 23:58.10 | zenzelezz | WoW can write their saved variables, that's it |
| 23:58.13 | JoshBorke | Zxcvb: they can't write at all |
| 23:58.25 | zenzelezz | didn't I just say that? |
| 23:58.35 | Karrion | Zxcvb: they can nominate variables to be saved and restored by WoW at logout/login/reload |
| 23:58.36 | Bleeter | imo, which is more like saving state than anything |
| 23:58.37 | Mike-N-Go | WoW AddOns can not write to files directly, it can only write to tables in the SV files. |
| 23:59.04 | JoshBorke | zenzelezz: i think there's an echo, dunno though |
| 23:59.08 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 23:59.13 | Zxcvb | and presumably ask wow to write the tables immediately |
| 23:59.23 | zenzelezz | no |
| 23:59.24 | Karrion | Zxcvb: nope |
| 23:59.24 | Corrodias | addons cannot use the file input/output libraries. the only way to save data is to used "savedd variables". |
| 23:59.29 | Bleeter | no, they're only written on a reload of the UI, or logout |
| 23:59.43 | zenzelezz | both of which requires user interaction |
| 23:59.46 | Corrodias | how many other ways can we say it? :) |
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| 23:59.51 | JoshBorke | NEIN! |
| 23:59.54 | Corrodias | well, or the server disconnecting them |
| 23:59.55 | JoshBorke | KINJIRU! |
