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| 00:01.29 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. the mod have this in its toc: LoadOnDemand: 1 If I just change it to 0, will it start loading on game start , or no? |
| 00:02.27 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
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| 00:03.34 | Wobwork | narf =\ |
| 00:04.14 | kergoth | any rogues around that can give me pointers in pvp? i'm seriously sucking |
| 00:04.31 | Shadowed | don't die |
| 00:04.35 | Shadowed | what spec are you? |
| 00:06.10 | KarlThePagan | sysrage, thx for answering before... WUU got updated to use the xml method (won't ever break) |
| 00:08.23 | sylvanaar | Shadowed thats what i was talking about |
| 00:08.32 | sylvanaar | Shadowed you have to install svn |
| 00:08.51 | Shadowed | Well that explains a lot |
| 00:09.19 | sylvanaar | and add it to your path and all that good stuff |
| 00:09.35 | sylvanaar | there is a handy tool that comes with it that will do that even |
| 00:10.58 | kergoth | Shadowed, 41/20/0 |
| 00:11.05 | sylvanaar | Shadowed http://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/36797/svn-1.4.3-setup.exe |
| 00:11.08 | Shadowed | Yea found it |
| 00:11.10 | Shadowed | installing |
| 00:11.21 | Shadowed | kergoth: Get around 9k health, run around spamm mutilate on stuff |
| 00:12.21 | Kaydeethree | wow for item buffs |
| 00:13.57 | GeoMance | You can get 9k health. o_o |
| 00:14.03 | GeoMance | As a rogue. |
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| 00:16.44 | Shadowed | easy |
| 00:16.46 | Shadowed | you can get 10k too |
| 00:17.22 | kergoth | hmm |
| 00:17.32 | kergoth | my guild isnt raiding yet :( limits the options |
| 00:17.46 | kergoth | and man do i suck at getting behind guys to mutilate in the thick of it :) but i' sure that just needs practice |
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| 00:21.18 | YammYgirlcoding | someone could show me a link to download the titan panel pack? |
| 00:21.48 | YammYgirlcoding | i cant find the original site |
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| 00:30.43 | Corrodias | whoa, tornado warning |
| 00:31.42 | Bam__ | on Mac you can now set max fps... any recommendations as to what I should set it to? |
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| 00:32.38 | KarlThePagan | Bam__, lcd? |
| 00:32.46 | Bam__ | yes |
| 00:32.47 | KarlThePagan | find your LCD freq and set it to that |
| 00:32.53 | KarlThePagan | 60 or 75 maybe? |
| 00:33.03 | KarlThePagan | or multiples of that |
| 00:33.09 | Bam__ | umm no idea lol... gonna check |
| 00:33.15 | KarlThePagan | err i mean fractions of that |
| 00:33.32 | Bam__ | but what is the overall effect? Better system performance? |
| 00:34.08 | KarlThePagan | well the idea is that if your cpu isn't wasting cycles pushing 90 fps all the time it has time to do other stuff so your performance is more consistent |
| 00:34.43 | Bam__ | ah ok... so other programs will run better |
| 00:34.54 | KarlThePagan | yea, basically more folding@home in the background |
| 00:37.58 | Bam__ | lol.. not easy to figure out what my LCD frequency is |
| 00:39.05 | a-stray-cat | one of my addons is locking up wow as soon as i log in |
| 00:39.11 | a-stray-cat | anyone have any idea what it oculd be? :X |
| 00:40.24 | KarlThePagan | an out-of-date addon? |
| 00:40.38 | a-stray-cat | nvm |
| 00:40.41 | a-stray-cat | was the new auctioneer |
| 00:40.46 | Bam__ | oh |
| 00:40.59 | Bam__ | mine works though |
| 00:41.06 | Bam__ | 4.0.2 |
| 00:41.19 | Gnarfoz | 4.0.2 with embedded on = broken tooltips |
| 00:41.21 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 00:41.56 | Bam__ | oh |
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| 00:43.22 | Bam__ | *grumble* cant figure out my LCD freq. but I guess setting fps to 60 should be enough... our eyes can't really see any faster, I think :D |
| 00:44.01 | Gnarfoz | can't see faster than 30 anyway |
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| 00:44.09 | Gnarfoz | but that's not the point for background fps limit, is it :) |
| 00:44.11 | Bam__ | really? |
| 00:45.01 | Bam__ | well if you cannot see the differense... |
| 00:45.18 | Bam__ | oh background |
| 00:45.28 | Bam__ | I was only thinkiing about foreground :P |
| 00:46.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone know what the blessing of o'ros does, if anything? |
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| 00:50.03 | Kaydeethree | it doesn't do anything |
| 00:50.13 | Kaydeethree | as far as wowhead knows |
| 00:50.31 | sysrage | which damn mod is making my game jerky??? |
| 00:52.27 | norgs | mine! |
| 00:52.34 | sysrage | i hate you norgs :( |
| 00:52.37 | norgs | mwahahah |
| 00:52.43 | TC-Working | the jerky mod |
| 00:52.48 | norgs | it was my plan all along... |
| 00:53.06 | sysrage | it's like a half second of lag every second and a half |
| 00:56.09 | KarlThePagan | I hereby dub the Skettis minibosses ... DUKES |
| 00:56.12 | KarlThePagan | LOL REVENGE |
| 01:02.24 | sysrage | woot i found it |
| 01:02.39 | sysrage | either ChatThrottleLib, Telepathy, or PartyQuests |
| 01:03.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | the first or the third are apparently common culprits of it for 2.1 |
| 01:11.12 | cladhaire | the prayer of mending buff is the greatest thing in the world. |
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| 01:13.46 | Shirik | what buff? |
| 01:14.00 | Shirik | (I still don't have it... 5 levels left...) |
| 01:14.09 | Shirik | er |
| 01:14.20 | Shirik | 3 levels |
| 01:14.22 | Shirik | I can't add |
| 01:15.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't trust prayer of mending |
| 01:15.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it looks like you're shooting me with the light arrows from zelda |
| 01:15.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i flinch |
| 01:15.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 01:17.06 | Shirik | anyway |
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| 01:17.10 | Shirik | I'm dead, night all |
| 01:18.54 | cladhaire | :P |
| 01:19.07 | Industrial | hmm |
| 01:19.20 | Industrial | How do I print chat messages literally |
| 01:19.45 | Industrial | I want to see |HplayerIndustrial|hIndustrial|h |
| 01:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | print screen + mspaint + file+print |
| 01:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 01:19.57 | Industrial | .. |
| 01:20.04 | Industrial | wow replaces it in the chat |
| 01:20.13 | Industrial | and also in the UIErrorsFrame, apparently |
| 01:20.29 | Industrial | i know its there but i want to get the whole strings cause im just guessing now |
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| 01:22.31 | Xuerian | Mahahaha lfgcomic is win |
| 01:22.48 | Xuerian | Industrial: Uh |
| 01:22.55 | Xuerian | Industrial: Are you trying to fix the :number after names? |
| 01:23.01 | Xuerian | Otherwise, you really don't want to print chat messasges |
| 01:23.07 | Xuerian | It's a recipie for a endless loop |
| 01:24.15 | Industrial | Xuerian: that too |
| 01:24.29 | Xuerian | Industrial: :[0-9]+ |
| 01:24.35 | Xuerian | It's literally appended to the name |
| 01:24.51 | Xuerian | Occam's razor :p |
| 01:25.00 | Industrial | Xuerian: http://pastey.net/39139 |
| 01:25.06 | Industrial | I wrote this 2 years ago |
| 01:25.10 | Industrial | trying to decypher it |
| 01:25.11 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:26.04 | Industrial | have all the player name links in the channel sub parts because else you couldnt type [Guild] in chat for example |
| 01:26.32 | Xuerian | hm |
| 01:26.42 | Industrial | still hooking AddMessage the 'bad' way ;P |
| 01:27.02 | Industrial | maybe if I just make a frame with text on it and show it in there.. |
| 01:27.12 | Xuerian | yeah. |
| 01:27.32 | Xuerian | Not sure how to make it not parse the hyperlinks though :P |
| 01:28.41 | GeoMance | Industrial, what are you trying to do, exactly? >.> |
| 01:28.50 | Wobwork | Heal the world? |
| 01:28.53 | Wobwork | Make it a better place? |
| 01:33.34 | Industrial | GeoMance: I want to see what a full chat message consists of - so I can hack it up _properly_ |
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| 01:55.10 | Shirik|zZz | night all :) |
| 01:55.13 | Shirik|zZz | oh |
| 01:55.15 | Shirik|zZz | I already said that |
| 01:55.19 | Shirik|zZz | well seriously night now :P |
| 02:02.27 | Terrifion | what function makes a character sit? |
| 02:03.07 | Wobwork | BreakLegs() |
| 02:03.39 | Terrifion | : ( |
| 02:04.01 | Wobwork | There's the gnome specific one, GnawOfKnees() |
| 02:04.10 | Wobwork | s/Of/Off/ |
| 02:04.15 | cladhaire | Moroes died stealthed |
| 02:04.17 | cladhaire | now we can't start opera |
| 02:04.46 | Wobwork | Sneaksy Moroeseses |
| 02:05.14 | Terrifion | cladhaire: we can't even kill moroes with our group now |
| 02:05.34 | Terrifion | last week we went up to nightbane, only didn't kill illhoof and netherspite cause we didn't have time, now we can't even kill moroes |
| 02:05.40 | Terrifion | it's pathetic |
| 02:10.53 | Kaydeethree | heh. yay for item upgrades. I just noticed I've got 10k hp in my dps gear raidbuffed |
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| 02:15.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | mage in my guild just asked if AP or spell damage was better |
| 02:15.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry |
| 02:15.31 | Wobwork | Dodge |
| 02:15.34 | KarlThePagan | O.o |
| 02:15.34 | Wobwork | Clearly |
| 02:15.54 | KarlThePagan | I dealy hope he's comparins the effectiveness of the stat on abilities |
| 02:16.03 | KarlThePagan | which is a valid comparison |
| 02:16.10 | Kaydeethree | oh, didn't you know? we've all gotta gear for AP when in kara after the curator |
| 02:16.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, someone said "isn't that a melee skill?" |
| 02:16.18 | KarlThePagan | lolol |
| 02:16.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and she was like |
| 02:16.25 | KarlThePagan | ATP is 1/14 of a dps, spell damage is 1/7 |
| 02:16.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | "oh, there's my answer" |
| 02:16.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 02:16.44 | KarlThePagan | haha |
| 02:16.49 | KarlThePagan | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:17.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually |
| 02:17.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | "ok thers my anwer" |
| 02:18.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | now she's asking if crit or hit rating is better |
| 02:18.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | ebaaaay |
| 02:18.24 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 02:18.41 | KarlThePagan | I do have 348 dagger skill just for the post-curator trash |
| 02:18.57 | Kaydeethree | I'm up to 345 staves |
| 02:19.19 | KarlThePagan | you can level in blasted lands... up to 350 I think |
| 02:19.26 | KarlThePagan | so slow, but it works |
| 02:19.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went out and grinded staves on my druid |
| 02:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | just because i was tired of reading the stat window and it being wrong |
| 02:19.53 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 02:20.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | in forms, instead of giving my real attack rating it gives the reating of my weapon |
| 02:21.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | my real attack rating is 360, but it says 359 because i only grinded staves to 349 |
| 02:21.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | and have +10 to feral combat skills |
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| 02:34.39 | Legorol | speed of leveling weapon skill is greatly increased by intellect |
| 02:34.52 | Legorol | by some cheap green "xx of intellect" gear on teh AH, then bash the mobs in blasted lands |
| 02:34.58 | Legorol | it makes a significant difference |
| 02:35.03 | Legorol | by->buy |
| 02:41.41 | KarlThePagan | or just... be a cloth class :0 |
| 02:43.47 | ckknight | Boomkin! |
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| 02:49.07 | Scre3m | i'm having what i think is a problem with WAU, it seems to be patching all of the addons everytime it runs, i'm getting the same results with both mirrors, any ideas? |
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| 02:55.16 | Scre3m | anyone in here having similar problem with WUA (wowaceupdater)? |
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| 03:00.36 | KarlThePagan | Scre3m, make sure you update to the latest version |
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| 03:01.09 | KarlThePagan | there was an emergency change recently (so the server wouldn't die) and versions less than 1.8.23 won't work properly |
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| 03:03.02 | Corrodias | argh, cartographer being screwed makes it hard to get around |
| 03:04.07 | ckknight | so fix it |
| 03:09.17 | KarlThePagan | works here |
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| 03:10.41 | Kaydeethree | that's new |
| 03:11.06 | Bleeter | trying to work out which mod 'download.php@id=3897&cat=()&name=()' is, etc. ;) |
| 03:12.07 | Bleeter | don't get me wrong, I blame the Wine hang, causing lack of cache files and me having to run in Win32 native |
| 03:12.25 | Nom- | mahn |
| 03:12.37 | Nom- | I just saw a video on Youtube |
| 03:12.43 | Nom- | Of Ubuntu + Eye Candy |
| 03:12.49 | Nom- | I must admit, that's really tempting |
| 03:13.07 | Corrodias | what version do you have that works? |
| 03:13.21 | Nom- | Beryl it was i think |
| 03:14.44 | Corrodias | re: cartographer |
| 03:15.12 | Nom- | Anyone try Karazhan / Gruul last night ? |
| 03:15.23 | Nom- | Was just wondering if it's easier or harder without being able to stack elixirs :) |
| 03:15.48 | Bleeter | Beryl = hawt++ |
| 03:15.56 | subbawt | maulgar/gruul are buggy |
| 03:16.33 | Nom- | I'm very tempted to try it tongiht |
| 03:16.51 | Nom- | But it'll take a few hours to get it installed and configured I reckon |
| 03:17.55 | Kaydeethree | yah, gruul's broken |
| 03:18.06 | Kaydeethree | more rockfalls now |
| 03:18.06 | Nom- | hmm how broken? |
| 03:18.20 | Kaydeethree | melee's getting shafted on dps |
| 03:18.25 | Kaydeethree | because they have to keep running out |
| 03:19.55 | Nom- | hmm how about kara ? |
| 03:20.04 | Nom- | I mean, we one-shotted everything last week |
| 03:20.11 | Nom- | I heard a few fights were actually going to be easier ? |
| 03:20.50 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.59 | Nom- | o_O |
| 03:21.01 | Kaydeethree | will see tomorrow |
| 03:21.08 | Nom- | You do realise it was intended to be Kara => 25-man |
| 03:21.11 | Kaydeethree | couldn't raid yesterday |
| 03:21.18 | Kaydeethree | we've got kara on farm |
| 03:21.28 | Kaydeethree | "haven't gotten to kara yet this week" |
| 03:21.30 | Nom- | oic what you mean now :) |
| 03:21.35 | Nom- | ah kk |
| 03:22.28 | Nom- | hmm |
| 03:22.39 | Nom- | i'm thinking 'no' to 64-bit ubuntu |
| 03:22.49 | Nom- | had so much trouble with VPN on Vista |
| 03:23.02 | Nom- | I thought there was a Ubuntu DVD now ? |
| 03:25.47 | Bleeter | pretty sure there are |
| 03:27.29 | Bleeter | dunno bout the dvd, tho, don't think so |
| 03:28.20 | Nom- | hmm oh well, 700KBps can download anything in no time |
| 03:29.21 | Bleeter | arrrgh, so "wget ${f}" becomes "wget -O `echo ${f}|cut -d- -f2`.zip ${f}", and cross fingers that the wowi file is actually in zip format |
| 03:29.51 | Bleeter | wowi's downloads starting to bite more |
| 03:30.05 | Bleeter | no last modified header, and these weird naming things |
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| 03:30.33 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/feelthespeed.jpg >:) |
| 03:30.49 | Nom- | 724kB/sec baby! :D |
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| 03:36.17 | Industrial | Nom-: http://i9.tinypic.com/67805km.png |
| 03:36.34 | Industrial | can get up to 2500kB/s |
| 03:36.35 | Industrial | :P |
| 03:39.13 | Bleeter | Industrial: you don't live in a 3rd world country when it comes to broadband, tho :P |
| 03:40.02 | Bleeter | gah, that above won't work at all, either (wget) |
| 03:40.10 | Bleeter | gunna have to freakin' special case wowinterface now |
| 03:40.42 | Bleeter | s |
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| 03:43.23 | Nom- | Bleeter: There is no standard *waves hand* |
| 03:44.27 | Industrial | blah |
| 03:44.31 | Industrial | ok so |
| 03:44.48 | Industrial | im printing text from ChatFrame1:AddMessage() |
| 03:45.13 | Industrial | well actually I hooked it the dirty way |
| 03:45.18 | Industrial | and im doing text = text:gsub('|', '||') |
| 03:45.34 | Industrial | I now get the player link back |
| 03:45.47 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 03:45.53 | Industrial | however that doesnt get me the color |
| 03:45.55 | Nom- | trying to think what's enough space for Ubuntu + WoW |
| 03:45.56 | Industrial | :( |
| 03:46.05 | Industrial | 12GB ? |
| 03:46.07 | Nom- | 20 gig enough to give room to grow you reckon? |
| 03:46.07 | Industrial | 15? |
| 03:46.08 | Kaydeethree | 7 gigs for wow |
| 03:46.12 | Kaydeethree | a gig or three for ubuntu |
| 03:46.25 | Nom- | 20 sounds good, i got room :) |
| 03:46.33 | Mike-N-Go | Sadly, I have not guild nor pug that may get me the rep and quest done. |
| 03:47.05 | Nom- | *uses vista to shrink size of drive* |
| 03:47.08 | Nom- | I love vista for that |
| 03:47.12 | Nom- | No mess |
| 03:47.15 | Nom- | No fuss, it just does it |
| 03:47.25 | Kaydeethree | gparted's come a long way too |
| 03:47.35 | Nom- | And bang, I now have 25GB free space to install Ubuntu when I get home :) |
| 03:48.23 | Nom- | need about 4 gig for swap |
| 03:48.39 | Nom- | So I figured a quarter century |
| 03:48.59 | Nom- | (Ubuntu likes to create swap equivilent to 2xRAM last i checked) |
| 03:50.53 | Iriel | You dont NEED that much swap if you have that much ram |
| 03:52.05 | KarlThePagan | linux won't usually swap anything iirc |
| 03:53.55 | Nom- | yah, but helps to have it in case i go whacky with gimp |
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| 04:57.24 | Tain | I can't believe I've wasted dozens of hours of my life watching Lost. What a shitty show. |
| 04:57.48 | subbawt | i know plenty of people who would probably stab you for saying that |
| 04:57.51 | subbawt | i've never seen it though |
| 04:58.08 | subbawt | bad season finale? |
| 04:59.30 | Tain | Oh I'm sure some misguided people will love it. |
| 05:00.23 | Thunder_Child | i think the same thing about heroes...and i have been physically beating for saying that |
| 05:00.23 | Tem | What's the new buff in HFP? |
| 05:00.29 | Tem | Trollbane's Command |
| 05:00.33 | Tem | what's that about? |
| 05:00.49 | Kaydeethree | onyxia head style buff |
| 05:00.51 | Kaydeethree | killing mag |
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| 05:01.07 | Tain | The Heroes finale was immensely disappointing. |
| 05:02.46 | Legorol | i concur |
| 05:09.03 | ckknight | agreed |
| 05:09.07 | ckknight | too anticlimactic |
| 05:09.17 | ckknight | I wanted the bomb to go off |
| 05:10.47 | ckknight | don't give away the Lost ending, I've yet to see it |
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| 05:34.14 | Iriel | If anyone's really bored and wants to try a beta of aftercast 2.0, I posted a link to it in the comments on this page http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4167-AfterCast.html |
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| 05:49.20 | Nom- | How can you not like Heroes ??? |
| 05:49.25 | Nom- | It's the most epic show ever |
| 05:49.45 | ckknight | did you see the finale? |
| 05:49.49 | Nom- | Yep |
| 05:49.59 | ckknight | I thought it was anticlimactic |
| 05:50.04 | Thrae | Heroes? I've been meaning to watch that one of these days. |
| 05:50.05 | Nom- | It wasn't really a final as much as the start of season 2 :) |
| 05:50.18 | ckknight | ...meh |
| 05:50.32 | Thrae | Along with "Firefly" and "4400". |
| 05:50.36 | ckknight | didn't think it was that spectacular |
| 05:50.52 | Thrae | Oh, and maybe one episode of "24". Never seen that either. |
| 05:51.06 | Nom- | hmm |
| 05:51.14 | Nom- | 24 is getting a bit tired after 6 seasons |
| 05:51.18 | ckknight | I've never seen 24, either |
| 05:51.38 | ckknight | but I can figure out how it goes by having watched 3 parodies of it now |
| 05:51.38 | Nom- | Jack Bauer has used like 11 out of 9 lives |
| 05:52.00 | Nom- | Basically |
| 05:52.04 | Thrae | The first season sounds like it would be good. The entire idea of a series of shows taking place in 24 hours is cool. |
| 05:52.20 | Nom- | It's about the lives surrounding an event |
| 05:52.25 | Thrae | Right. |
| 05:52.32 | Nom- | And it keeps switching PoV so it's never boring |
| 05:52.36 | Iriel | It's a bit hokey in places, I wasn't really all that engrossed in season 1, I tried, but it drove me away |
| 05:52.44 | Nom- | The idea is everything is happening in real time |
| 05:52.51 | Nom- | So 1 hour of 24 on TV is 1 hour of this event |
| 05:52.54 | Thrae | Well, the whole "terrorism" thing might scare me off. |
| 05:53.05 | Thrae | Terrorism is stupid, in a dramatic and political sense. |
| 05:53.13 | Thrae | Goddamn buzzword. |
| 05:53.15 | Thunder_Child | 24 is = to one big freakin to be continued |
| 05:53.16 | ckknight | ur stupid |
| 05:53.55 | Thrae | That reminds me, I need to look-up some statistics. |
| 05:54.34 | ckknight | oh, btw, how does Jack Bauer survive without going to the bathroom? |
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| 05:54.47 | Nom- | He does that while they're off looking at someone else |
| 05:54.48 | subbawt | diapers |
| 05:54.49 | Nom- | :P |
| 05:54.52 | ckknight | just holds it in for 24 hours straight? |
| 05:55.07 | Nom- | no thats the thing tho |
| 05:55.09 | subbawt | im sure showing him shitting in an air duct would make for good television :P |
| 05:55.18 | Nom- | it never focuses on one person for any great length of time |
| 05:55.36 | Nom- | Like 1 minute you might be watching CTU tracking someone down on Satellite |
| 05:55.41 | Corrodias | there. ready for heroic sethekk halls. |
| 05:55.46 | Nom- | The next minute you're watching terrorist trying to evade detection |
| 05:57.34 | Thrae | Goddamnit, I hate Terrorism. I hate the War on Drugs. Stupid-ass buzzwords that are petty little problems compared to real problems that are out of control due to lack of oversight. |
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| 05:58.26 | Nom- | Well that's part of 24 |
| 05:58.46 | Nom- | You see the white house putting pressure on CTU and pressing them to go a certain direction |
| 05:59.08 | Nom- | So they show (some of) the politics behind the events |
| 05:59.13 | Nom- | You really just have to watch it |
| 05:59.35 | Nom- | Get Season 1 on DVD and don't form an opinion until you've reached at least episode 6 |
| 06:00.05 | Nom- | You can't "get it" after just one episode...you need to follow the story for a few episodes before you get hooked |
| 06:01.59 | Nom- | Hey, anyone know a nice javascript library for making web apps ? |
| 06:02.20 | Thrae | And then, after watching 30 episodes, you say to yourself..."God this show sucks. But I've already watched 30 episodes, so I guess I'll just watch the rest anyway." |
| 06:02.39 | Nom- | lol i think they're great |
| 06:02.49 | Nom- | but it is getting a bit tired that Jack Bauer never dies |
| 06:03.12 | Thrae | Dammit, I can't think of how to google for useful statistics for the chances of death by automobile accident. |
| 06:03.35 | Kaydeethree | average mortality rates? |
| 06:03.43 | Thrae | Oh, good keywords. |
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| 06:03.57 | Thrae | Gotta be all spanish and such, "morte-ality rates!" |
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| 06:06.45 | Thrae | Kaydeethree: Oooo, all kinds of excellent statistics. |
| 06:08.33 | Thrae | For instance, the number of fatalities from automobile accidents is about 50% more then the number of fatalities from firearms. |
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| 06:10.31 | Iriel | Nom- Dont google have a bunch |
| 06:16.15 | Tem | wow that was fun |
| 06:16.25 | Tem | I just did my first organized arena matches |
| 06:16.33 | Tem | 2v2, me and a pally |
| 06:17.57 | Xuerian | Thrae: AUTOMOBILE CONTROL LAWS, STAT |
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| 07:55.49 | Shadowed | Anyone in-game, not asleep and on a PVP server in a contested zone? =p |
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| 08:18.54 | Bleeter | Shadowed: I could hop onto one of my PvP toons when I do a changeover. What are you after? |
| 08:19.21 | Shadowed | Just checking a return value of GetZonePVPInfo |
| 08:19.50 | Shadowed | Was just wondering if you could run /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( tostring( GetZonePVPInfo() ) ); in a contested zone and give me the value |
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| 08:39.32 | Bleeter | Shadowed: k, just swapping now |
| 08:39.39 | Shadowed | kk thanks |
| 08:40.30 | Bleeter | 'contested' |
| 08:40.53 | Shadowed | interesting |
| 08:40.53 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 08:40.57 | Bleeter | I'm presuming that was the return you wanted ;) |
| 08:41.02 | Bleeter | without the quote marks, too |
| 08:41.05 | Shadowed | yep |
| 08:41.31 | Shadowed | If you're on a PvE server in a "contested" zone it returns nil, if you're on a PvP server it returns "contested" |
| 08:43.49 | Shadowed | Oh also, you're forced to be flagged in a contested zone right? |
| 08:46.52 | Bleeter | yup |
| 08:47.03 | Shadowed | kk |
| 08:47.04 | Shadowed | thanks |
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| 08:59.30 | Bleeter | np Shadowed, g'luck :) |
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| 09:13.31 | zenzelezz | "You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." |
| 09:13.51 | zenzelezz | I never cease to be amazed at the number of neat stuff Mark Twain said/wrote |
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| 09:33.59 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: he ws definately one of the better US authors/raconteurs, that's for sure |
| 09:34.08 | Bleeter | heck, I loved Australia ... can't be that bad ;) |
| 09:34.12 | Bleeter | s/I/he/ |
| 09:34.39 | zenzelezz | hehehe |
| 09:39.32 | foxlit | Texture:SetTexture("Inteface\\Icons\\Spell_Fire_Burnout"); |
| 09:39.36 | foxlit | That doesn't appear to work |
| 09:39.50 | zenzelezz | is that a copy+paste? |
| 09:40.07 | foxlit | Yes (abstracted texture name to Texture, though); see anything obviously wrong with it? |
| 09:40.07 | zenzelezz | if so, try Interface instead of Inteface |
| 09:40.14 | foxlit | gah! |
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| 09:47.46 | foxlit | Easiest way to purge a table without creating a new one? |
| 09:48.00 | foxlit | (it's an array, btw) |
| 09:48.13 | foxlit | while t[#t] do t[#t] = nil; end -- ? |
| 09:48.50 | nymbia | uh |
| 09:49.03 | nymbia | for k in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end |
| 09:50.10 | foxlit | 4 characters more :P |
| 09:50.27 | nymbia | yours is slower |
| 09:50.30 | foxlit | But as a bonus, works on all table types, I suppose |
| 09:51.39 | foxlit | A millisecond on 10k entries, it seems |
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| 09:52.03 | foxlit | Interesting, though; I'd have thought length was cached in some form |
| 09:53.03 | foxlit | Although the fastest version is for i=1,#t do t[i] = nil; end |
| 09:53.13 | nymbia | yup |
| 09:53.17 | Shadowed | Since when did nilling out a table created through table.insert work |
| 09:53.34 | nymbia | foxlit: ipairs will be slightly faster than pairs, too |
| 09:53.49 | foxlit | ipairs won't give me the key to nil, though? |
| 09:53.59 | foxlit | Ah, it will, in this case :) |
| 09:54.04 | nymbia | yea :) |
| 09:54.11 | foxlit | table.insert is just an array management function |
| 09:54.34 | foxlit | Something along the lines of function table.insert(t, val) t[#t+1] = val; end |
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| 10:21.25 | foxlit | Anyone with a decent level of familiarity with override bindings around? |
| 10:21.47 | foxlit | Want to make it so that pressing G,B,Y or R when a specific frame is shown would be mapped to specific functions |
| 10:22.01 | foxlit | s/functions/button clicks/ |
| 10:25.12 | nymbia | foxlit: just set em in an OnShow handler, and clear em OnHide |
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| 10:45.41 | foxlit | That works :) |
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| 11:29.50 | foxlit | Gah. |
| 11:30.00 | foxlit | UNIT_AURA fires before GetPlayerBuff* functions are updated :/ |
| 11:30.16 | JoshBorke | for what unit? |
| 11:30.19 | JoshBorke | any unit? |
| 11:30.37 | foxlit | player |
| 11:30.52 | foxlit | GetPlayerBuff* are player-specific as well |
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| 11:30.56 | JoshBorke | why not use PLAYER_AURA? |
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| 11:31.19 | JoshBorke | why not use PLAYER_AURA? |
| 11:31.27 | foxlit | Doesn't fire for changing timers |
| 11:31.41 | JoshBorke | but UNIT_AURA does? interesting |
| 11:48.15 | JoshBorke | foxlit: did you check GetUnitBuff*? |
| 11:49.32 | foxlit | Nope |
| 11:49.41 | foxlit | Only need player ones anyway |
| 11:49.55 | foxlit | Ended up doing a 0.2s-delayed OnUpdate scan |
| 11:52.07 | JoshBorke | that's hacky :-P |
| 11:52.24 | foxlit | True,true. |
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| 11:52.48 | foxlit | And the rest of it was so elegant! |
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| 11:53.12 | foxlit | Get to posthook SelectGossipOption() to check location against a specific area of a specific zone, then display a frame |
| 11:55.28 | Shirik|zZz | I posthooked your mom's SelectGossipOption() last night |
| 11:55.56 | Shirik|zZz | I mean hi foxlit :) |
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| 11:57.02 | zenzelezz | you should never hook gossip functions for women, they get called far too often |
| 11:59.06 | Shirik|zZz | this is true |
| 12:00.28 | Bleeter | hmmm, is it just me or does Egbert, from the Shattrath Childrens Week quest, suffer a li'l from 'ADD'? |
| 12:00.48 | foxlit | So I wrote a mod to handle Relics in Ogri'la |
| 12:01.07 | foxlit | Allows people with the memory span of a goldfish to still do the stuff |
| 12:01.08 | foxlit | Any suggestions for a name? |
| 12:01.20 | Shirik|zZz | ~wikipedia Alan Cox |
| 12:02.14 | Bleeter | foxlit: erm, 'Goldfish' then ;) |
| 12:02.49 | Shirik|zZz | I like it |
| 12:02.59 | foxlit | A bit non-obvious, though |
| 12:03.04 | Shirik|zZz | so what |
| 12:03.07 | zenzelezz | Ogri'lazy |
| 12:03.07 | Shirik|zZz | inside jokes are awesome |
| 12:03.10 | foxlit | "Get Goldfish!" "wtf does it do!" |
| 12:03.25 | Shirik|zZz | so? |
| 12:03.39 | Shirik|zZz | Imagine the first time... CT came out |
| 12:03.41 | Shirik|zZz | wtf is a CT? |
| 12:04.09 | Shirik|zZz | or RDX for that matter, though it is in fact an abbreviation that makes sense |
| 12:04.14 | Shirik|zZz | I think only about 5 people know what it stands for |
| 12:04.26 | Bleeter | RDX sounds like it's an automobile |
| 12:04.27 | foxlit | See, CT was clever in the way of naming submods |
| 12:04.33 | foxlit | CT_RaidAssist is pretty obvious |
| 12:04.51 | foxlit | CT_BuffMod; CT_Viewport, etc. |
| 12:04.58 | Shirik|zZz | ok |
| 12:05.00 | Shirik|zZz | LightHeaded? |
| 12:05.30 | Bleeter | true, but from 'CTMod', one has no idea unless you go looking for what mods are contained within, which is akin to looking at a readme explaining what it does |
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| 12:05.50 | foxlit | Think someone called something LightHeaded |
| 12:05.55 | foxlit | Ogri'Lazy is awesome, though! |
| 12:06.15 | Bleeter | that does work rather well |
| 12:06.33 | foxlit | Suffers a bit from the "wtf does that have to do with prism", but sounds nice anyway |
| 12:06.39 | foxlit | s/prism/relic |
| 12:06.56 | Bleeter | people will see 'lazy' and say 'zomgwtflazy i neeeeed' |
| 12:07.13 | Shirik|zZz | rofl |
| 12:07.47 | Bleeter | yup, Egbert's a li'l.. hyperactive |
| 12:08.48 | Bleeter | in the 'if it were a kid I'd smack it around a li'l to calm it down' kinda way ;) |
| 12:24.10 | Shirik | does anyone remember that alternative to MoveAnything? |
| 12:31.06 | amro | stupid kubuntu... it installed thunderbird so it could install localization for it when I tried to install a localization package |
| 12:31.07 | krka | its friendly! |
| 12:31.07 | amro | shoulda just installed the base kde locale packages... it's downloading plenty of crap I don't want :( but it would be useful if I wanted localization for all my apps |
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| 12:37.12 | Recluse | Thank god for Blue poster alt-tab crash fixes! |
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| 12:41.27 | foxlit | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/ogrilazy/ |
| 12:41.48 | Shirik | I refuse to click that link on account of it having the words "curse-gaming" in it |
| 12:41.50 | foxlit | WoW-i is pending approval, don't lynch plx :) |
| 12:41.54 | Shirik | :P |
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| 12:43.08 | Legorol | that.... is sad |
| 12:43.11 | sysrage | lol wow. i thought i was lazy. that addon brings it to a whole new level |
| 12:43.21 | Legorol | it defeats the whole point |
| 12:43.24 | foxlit | Success! |
| 12:43.50 | foxlit | Oh, I dunno. |
| 12:44.01 | foxlit | KTM defeats the whole point of raiding, and it has spread like wildfire |
| 12:44.45 | Recluse | Does anyone know of an addon that randomly whispers random people with random 'suggestive' phrases? |
| 12:45.07 | Recluse | Heard of people using one but never seen it before. |
| 12:45.11 | sysrage | nice way to get on a lot of peoples ignore list |
| 12:46.00 | Shirik | that's also a good way to trigger the anti-spam system |
| 12:46.10 | sysrage | which fails miserably |
| 12:46.14 | Shirik | it does |
| 12:46.16 | sysrage | at least for me cause my name starts with A |
| 12:46.35 | Shirik | I'm really scared about Prince this coming friday |
| 12:46.55 | Shirik | I'm hoping the server doesn't kick me because RDX sends a whisper to everyone with enfeeble |
| 12:47.04 | sysrage | heh my enchanting mod was booting me yesterday. couldn't figure out wtf was going on |
| 12:47.23 | foxlit | Isn't that supposed to work on unsolicited whispers only? |
| 12:47.35 | foxlit | i.e. if they whisper you, you're free to spam them to hell? |
| 12:47.40 | sysrage | it doesn't work, period |
| 12:47.49 | sysrage | spamsentry still blocked 8 spams last night for me |
| 12:49.07 | Shirik | 08:48:14 ‹foxlit› i.e. if they whisper you, you're free to spam them to hell? |
| 12:49.10 | Shirik | that would be a violation of TOS |
| 12:49.16 | Shirik | even if they violated first |
| 12:49.57 | foxlit | Well, not spam them to hell |
| 12:50.15 | foxlit | But free to respond to them without being blocked by the whisper limitations of 2.1? |
| 12:51.00 | Shirik|AFK | uh... |
| 12:51.01 | Shirik|AFK | sure |
| 12:51.02 | Shirik|AFK | have fun |
| 12:52.00 | foxlit | So why are enchant mods kicking people? |
| 12:52.28 | Kirkburn | I think the enchant stuff is more strictly controlled now |
| 12:52.42 | Kirkburn | Adys mentioned to me last night he could no longer link weird enchants |
| 12:53.03 | sysrage | what is a weird enchant? |
| 12:53.15 | Kirkburn | Stuff like the +62345 stamina |
| 12:53.33 | Kirkburn | Non-implemented stuff |
| 12:53.46 | sysrage | my mod wasn't linking fake enchants. it was showing stuff that's in my book |
| 12:54.20 | Kirkburn | no idea |
| 12:58.06 | Adys | meh? |
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| 13:03.16 | Beladona | FYI, the WOWI version of OgriLazy is approved |
| 13:07.09 | Beladona | somsone said KTM defeats the purpose of raiding? |
| 13:07.14 | foxlit | I did :) |
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| 13:18.28 | Beladona | are we talking about the same KTM? |
| 13:18.32 | Beladona | as in the threat meter? |
| 13:19.17 | Beladona | thats like saying a heart beat monitor defeats the purpose of jogging |
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| 13:28.53 | foxlit | Depends on what the purpose of jogging is :) |
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| 13:37.38 | Luminax | greetings folks |
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| 13:41.52 | Beladona | foxlit: I just dont see how the purpose of raiding is threat management, which is all KTM does |
| 13:42.24 | Beladona | and speaking as a warrior myself, who has tanked for plenty of end-game raids of late, KTM is a necessity for some people |
| 13:42.35 | Beladona | especially those mages who tend to outdo their dmg in 3 casts |
| 13:45.14 | Bleeter | foxlit: re: enchants kicking people: yes, they stopped those hacky fake enchants 'n stuff |
| 13:46.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | its great how much hyjal is a recreation of a wc3 map |
| 13:46.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 13:46.54 | Kaso | Bleeter, i didn't see the first part of that conversation but what was that about enchants, it sounds interesting |
| 13:47.24 | Luminax | hmmm |
| 13:47.28 | Luminax | lots of critical errors lately |
| 13:47.43 | Luminax | that's the third time today |
| 13:48.02 | Bleeter | Kaso: sysrage is running a mod that deals with enchants, and claims it's getting him kicked. There was a question regarding whether the +3453534 stam style fake enchants had been stopped, I'm 99% certain they had (the 1% remaining is 'coz I can't be bothered hunting for the reference ;-) |
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| 13:48.29 | Kaso | i was talking to a guy last night about them actually |
| 13:48.32 | Bleeter | *stopped = results in a kick (I'm unsure whether it'll result in a kick, or just failure) |
| 13:48.44 | Kaso | if you're talking <Random Enchantment> then yes they are removed |
| 13:49.27 | Kaso | however there is still no validation on enchant/gem slots. so you can add like "ZZOLD_+10 Stam" or whatever to your itemlinks as enchant atm |
| 13:50.18 | Luminax | which leads to fake stuffs ? |
| 13:52.57 | sysrage | I don't understand why the mod wouldn't be using 'valid' links. afaik it's just scanning my tradeskill book and linking what i can do |
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| 13:54.07 | sysrage | either way. EnchantList was booting me last night every time somebody whispered me !enchant <link to boots> |
| 13:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i blame jazz music |
| 13:54.55 | sysrage | i blame zenz |
| 13:55.04 | sysrage | and gnomes |
| 13:55.05 | Luminax | could be the boots' link's fault |
| 13:55.14 | Luminax | I blame ponies... |
| 13:55.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow, i never noticed how purdy the grass texture was in the emerald drean |
| 13:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | dream* |
| 13:57.48 | Beladona | don't blame the ponies, they are infallible |
| 13:58.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that made me thin what the world would be like if the pope was traditionally a pony |
| 13:58.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | think* |
| 13:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i don't know why :[ |
| 13:59.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | my thoughts scare me sometimes |
| 13:59.29 | Beladona | because somewhere in your mind you associate the pope with infallibility? |
| 13:59.36 | Beladona | or ponies |
| 13:59.43 | Beladona | not sure which is more disturbing |
| 13:59.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't think too hard about that |
| 13:59.54 | Beladona | hehe |
| 14:00.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'll give yourself an anueryism |
| 14:00.14 | Beladona | what? sometimes the sheep just need a little help through the fence! |
| 14:00.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | its one of those "if it wasn't for my horse, i wouldn't have spent that year in college" sentences |
| 14:01.11 | Beladona | I could add to that |
| 14:01.17 | Beladona | but I am going to refrain |
| 14:03.48 | zenzelezz | bah, "An error has occured" for Guild tab on Armory |
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| 14:06.52 | zenzelezz | hey, walking through the portal in the mage tower seems instant now :-o I used to lag there |
| 14:09.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone did |
| 14:09.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems to be fixed now |
| 14:10.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap, the black temple looks so awesome |
| 14:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | go through one wall and it goes from a pretty courtyard with statues of blood elves to an evil evil evil place |
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| 14:21.42 | Shirik|Ecole | morning Cide |
| 14:21.48 | Cide | morning |
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| 14:23.16 | zenzelezz | I've never bothered playing on PTR; so I expected the #show conditionals to affect texture as well :-| |
| 14:25.23 | End | what do #show conditionals affect? |
| 14:27.07 | Shirik|Ecole | the #show ? |
| 14:27.09 | zenzelezz | the cooldown I guess |
| 14:27.13 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't understand the question |
| 14:27.23 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 14:27.27 | Shirik|Ecole | no they affect everything |
| 14:27.37 | Shirik|Ecole | if you are experiencing otherwise, you need to l2getbetteractionbar |
| 14:27.48 | zenzelezz | I've got conditionals for both #show and #showtooltip, none of them affect the texture for me |
| 14:27.53 | zenzelezz | stock UI bars |
| 14:27.58 | Shirik|Ecole | then you wrote it wrong :P |
| 14:28.18 | Shirik|Ecole | mine works perfectly fine |
| 14:28.32 | zenzelezz | #showtooltip [stance:1] Retaliation; [stance:2] Shield Wall; [stance:3] Recklessness |
| 14:28.35 | zenzelezz | #show [stance:1] Retaliation; [stance:2] Shield Wall; [stance:3] Recklessness |
| 14:28.43 | zenzelezz | and the same /cast |
| 14:28.47 | Shirik|Ecole | why all that crap? |
| 14:28.52 | nevcairiel | if you have it in /cast |
| 14:28.55 | nevcairiel | it should be enough. |
| 14:28.57 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 14:29.00 | zenzelezz | wasn't before the patch |
| 14:29.05 | zenzelezz | but I'll try o_O |
| 14:29.07 | nevcairiel | oh an # showtooltip |
| 14:29.07 | Shirik|Ecole | neither was conditional shows :P |
| 14:29.10 | nevcairiel | i think the space is needed |
| 14:29.17 | Shirik|Ecole | no the space can't be used :P |
| 14:29.28 | nevcairiel | i use it, and it works fine :P |
| 14:29.34 | Shirik|Ecole | someone else was reporting problems :P |
| 14:29.45 | Shirik|Ecole | well in any case #showtooltip is fine |
| 14:29.45 | zenzelezz | actually, I do have a space after the # |
| 14:29.58 | nevcairiel | and #showtooltip implies #show iirc |
| 14:30.00 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, get rid of all that crap, /cast is fine |
| 14:30.04 | Shirik|Ecole | yes it does |
| 14:30.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, they really fleshed out the arakkoa models...wonder why, other than the costume you get for one little quest |
| 14:30.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a dance, among other things now, for them |
| 14:31.46 | nevcairiel | next playable race :P |
| 14:31.52 | nevcairiel | or they just got bored |
| 14:31.58 | nevcairiel | the designers, anyway |
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| 14:33.43 | zenzelezz | I found the problem... it was right in my chair all along |
| 14:34.05 | zenzelezz | forgot I'd assigned an icon for the macro instead of the ? |
| 14:35.34 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 14:35.40 | Shirik|Ecole | that's definitely a GG moment right there |
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| 14:44.05 | YammYgirlcoding | Cide? from CT? |
| 14:44.10 | Cide | yes |
| 14:44.17 | YammYgirlcoding | hello!! long time no see! :) |
| 14:44.21 | Cide | hi |
| 14:44.55 | YammYgirlcoding | how is it going CTmod? still unreleased ? |
| 14:45.08 | Cide | uhhh |
| 14:45.18 | Cide | unreleased for which patch? |
| 14:45.22 | YammYgirlcoding | last :) |
| 14:45.44 | Cide | we had updated versions up before the servers were online two days ago |
| 14:46.24 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm I got some frames bugs, so I guessed it wasn't still the release yet |
| 14:46.33 | Cide | working on that |
| 14:47.07 | YammYgirlcoding | the yellow start over people's name, and the target error? :) |
| 14:47.13 | Cide | yes |
| 14:47.26 | YammYgirlcoding | I hope it's easy to fix. Love your mod :) |
| 14:48.05 | YammYgirlcoding | the original numbers for people hp/mana is awful :) |
| 14:48.13 | YammYgirlcoding | are* |
| 14:49.20 | zenzelezz | there is (or was, can't remember which version I have) a thing I disliked about CTRA... "SETALLPOINTS set to true in frame with anchors (ignored)" |
| 14:49.39 | zenzelezz | made my editors always complain about a modified FrameXML.log if I didn't disable it while coding |
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| 15:04.38 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. how I change that: string.format( "%03d", l ). it will result in something like 050. I want to replace the first 0 with a blank space. |
| 15:05.17 | YammYgirlcoding | and if its 005, replace with 2 blank spaces |
| 15:05.36 | End | try "% 3d" |
| 15:06.46 | krka | or simple %3d? |
| 15:07.02 | YammYgirlcoding | and for the 2 blank spaces case? |
| 15:07.17 | End | do what krka said :P |
| 15:07.36 | krka | http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cstdio/printf.html |
| 15:07.42 | YammYgirlcoding | 3d will still become ' 050' or ' 005' |
| 15:07.42 | krka | many of the rules there apply |
| 15:07.48 | krka | no |
| 15:07.56 | krka | ' 50' |
| 15:08.10 | YammYgirlcoding | i need the string to be ' 5' or ' 50' or '500' |
| 15:08.19 | foxlit | pad it? |
| 15:08.24 | YammYgirlcoding | i wonder if there is any method to play with the number for me |
| 15:08.28 | foxlit | I mean, why string.format :P |
| 15:08.32 | YammYgirlcoding | the original number is just the number |
| 15:08.41 | YammYgirlcoding | yes pad it |
| 15:08.42 | krka | like i said |
| 15:08.46 | krka | %3d |
| 15:08.50 | YammYgirlcoding | i didnt know anything like pad to use |
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| 15:09.02 | YammYgirlcoding | what %3d does? |
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| 15:09.34 | foxlit | function (n,l) return strrepeat(" ",l-1-floor(log(n))) .. n end |
| 15:09.34 | End | it pads it to 3 characters...and because you didn't put a 0 in, it pads with whitespace |
| 15:09.47 | foxlit | Of course, %3d is more elegant if it works like that :) |
| 15:10.15 | YammYgirlcoding | ohhh will id to exactly what i said? ' 50' or ' 5' ? |
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| 15:11.02 | Cide | god |
| 15:11.09 | Cide | anyone feel like finding a small error for me? |
| 15:11.28 | Cide | http://www.mathbin.net/10944 |
| 15:11.29 | Kaso | finding? |
| 15:11.49 | Kaso | 403 forbidden :M |
| 15:12.11 | Cide | that url works for me... |
| 15:12.33 | End | worksforme too |
| 15:12.43 | Kaso | hmm |
| 15:12.49 | Kaso | refreshed from cache and it works |
| 15:12.50 | Kaso | how odd |
| 15:12.54 | Cide | Shirik|AFK: ping? :P |
| 15:16.06 | Nom- | w t f |
| 15:16.12 | Nom- | we just downed curator in 2 evocates |
| 15:17.05 | zenzelezz | nice :) |
| 15:19.48 | YammYgirlcoding | oh %3d worked great! :) |
| 15:20.24 | YammYgirlcoding | now an opinion. I'm showing the required level or profession skill next to the profession recipe in ATSW list. |
| 15:20.51 | YammYgirlcoding | i'm using a small convention like, [lv 50] or [pr 300] |
| 15:21.03 | YammYgirlcoding | is there anything shorter I could use but still be informative? |
| 15:21.08 | YammYgirlcoding | maybe change colorS? |
| 15:23.21 | YammYgirlcoding | idea? |
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| 15:23.59 | zenzelezz | what exactly is it you are displaying? |
| 15:24.39 | YammYgirlcoding | like. get a recipe you need lv 50 to use after crafter. i show [lv 50] Boot of Something in recipes list |
| 15:24.53 | YammYgirlcoding | crafted* |
| 15:25.23 | YammYgirlcoding | or you need skill 350 to used it. i'd show [pr 350] Drums of Thing.. |
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| 15:26.17 | YammYgirlcoding | all in ATSW recipes list window |
| 15:26.31 | YammYgirlcoding | ( advanced trade skill window ) |
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| 15:27.17 | YammYgirlcoding | i wonder if instead of lv and pr I could write something smaller, or maybe just let the numbers with diferent colors on them |
| 15:30.17 | YammYgirlcoding | idea? |
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| 15:50.44 | Josh_Borke | don't forget the cicadas |
| 15:51.41 | YammYgirlcoding | : p |
| 15:52.04 | YammYgirlcoding | how do you 'not' the if? if ( ! method() ) ? |
| 15:52.25 | zenzelezz | if (not arf) |
| 15:52.31 | zenzelezz | I think |
| 15:52.38 | Industrial | YammYgirlcoding: "a=true if not a then end" |
| 15:52.52 | a-stray-cat | anyone from curse around? |
| 15:52.58 | Industrial | a-stray-cat: YammYgirlcoding |
| 15:52.59 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm if I change the lua, can I just reloadui ? |
| 15:53.01 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:53.06 | Josh_Borke | YammYgirlcoding: yes |
| 15:53.07 | Industrial | YammYgirlcoding: yes |
| 15:53.33 | YammYgirlcoding | at least :p exitting while coding would be a pain |
| 15:53.42 | a-stray-cat | o rly |
| 15:53.47 | YammYgirlcoding | : p |
| 15:54.00 | a-stray-cat | anyone else see like a giant banner add on curse? that spills out of its bounds? |
| 15:54.39 | YammYgirlcoding | anything giant associated with a banner is always a bad idea :) |
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| 15:55.20 | YammYgirlcoding | gladly our eyes are trained to ignore banners and animated gifs from the site =^^= |
| 15:55.36 | a-stray-cat | not when it spills over where your account mail button is :P |
| 15:55.43 | vlad_drac | hi, could anyone point me in the direction of a mod that allows one to display and make clickable item links in a player-made chat channel? |
| 15:55.52 | vlad_drac | (if one exists) |
| 15:56.06 | foxlit | Dunno, something spams my channels with {{clink}}, though, so it exists |
| 15:57.37 | YammYgirlcoding | ok. I'm hooking the ATSW method. How can I find the original method ATSW is hooking over? I want to make an option for the ones that doesn't use ATSW but still want the functionality I made in tradeskills window |
| 16:00.14 | zenzelezz | did you always receive a "You receive item: " message for items from trade? o_O |
| 16:00.44 | vlad_drac | don't think so :) |
| 16:01.30 | YammYgirlcoding | awn? |
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| 16:16.09 | YammYgirlangry | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:16.35 | Cide | hi |
| 16:16.59 | zenzelezz | my gun's not in the list on CTprofiles zomg |
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| 16:18.32 | YammYgirlangry | zenzelezz tell him which gun :) |
| 16:19.12 | zenzelezz | well, I noticed the other items had pre-patch stats too, so I figured it was just a matter of updating somehow |
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| 16:19.12 | YammYgirlangry | zenzelezz u code lua? |
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| 16:19.24 | zenzelezz | some, but I'm not a very good coder :-p |
| 16:20.11 | YammYgirlangry | zenzelezz you know how to print into chat frame? |
| 16:20.18 | YammYgirlangry | i'm just trying to debug |
| 16:20.42 | YammYgirlangry | I added in the IF and in the ELSE DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test") but none is printed in game |
| 16:20.43 | zenzelezz | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("text") |
| 16:20.57 | YammYgirlangry | and when nothing is printed? |
| 16:21.10 | zenzelezz | I assume you used lower-case if/else? |
| 16:21.19 | YammYgirlangry | oh. i cant? |
| 16:21.27 | zenzelezz | you should |
| 16:21.37 | zenzelezz | just asking since you capitalized them here |
| 16:21.46 | YammYgirlangry | i did lower |
| 16:22.00 | zenzelezz | if the else isn't being run, then I would guess the if matches |
| 16:22.44 | YammYgirlangry | but i added a print in the IF and in the ELSE |
| 16:22.50 | YammYgirlangry | it should print for one or another |
| 16:23.19 | YammYgirlangry | i guess it's some channels setup, anything i have to turn on, or enable |
| 16:24.13 | zenzelezz | don't think so... |
| 16:24.43 | YammYgirlangry | where it's supposed to show? in general frame? |
| 16:24.59 | zenzelezz | in whichever frame is set as the default one |
| 16:25.20 | zenzelezz | you can try ChatFrameX:AddMessage("test"), where X is 1-7 or something |
| 16:25.21 | YammYgirlangry | and if there is no default channel set? |
| 16:25.33 | YammYgirlangry | i have only general and combat lot |
| 16:25.34 | zenzelezz | ChatFrame1 is DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME by default |
| 16:25.34 | YammYgirlangry | log |
| 16:26.37 | YammYgirlangry | will chatframe1 be General ? |
| 16:26.47 | zenzelezz | usually |
| 16:26.50 | Shirik | not necessarily |
| 16:29.17 | Kirkburn | Anyone else finding 2.1 unstable? My PC locked up, and my housemate is having major memory leaks |
| 16:29.29 | YammYgirlangry | here is fine |
| 16:46.42 | Shirik | any other priests on? |
| 16:47.43 | Kirkburn | Does level 8 count? |
| 16:49.09 | Cide | <- priest |
| 16:50.26 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:50.34 | Shirik | am I right in thinking that I no longer need holy candles? |
| 16:50.43 | Shirik | If I'm reading this correctly everything became sacred candles |
| 16:50.50 | Shirik | and I think I'm going crazy |
| 16:50.53 | Maldivia | anyone read the article, about the Make-A-Wish Foundation, arranging a trip to Blizzard HQ, for a kid with brain cancer? |
| 16:51.03 | Cide | PoF rank 1 is still holy candles |
| 16:51.07 | Cide | but why would you ever use that? |
| 16:51.12 | Shirik | right but I moved to rank 2 |
| 16:51.19 | Shirik | so I'm right |
| 16:51.20 | Shirik | thanks |
| 16:53.24 | Luminax | hey Shirik |
| 16:53.33 | Shirik | hi |
| 16:53.52 | sysrage | maldivia: ya. i got his crossbow |
| 16:53.54 | Luminax | still can't get that test addon to work >_> |
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| 16:54.03 | Shirik | mm |
| 16:54.05 | Shirik | which one? |
| 16:54.11 | Luminax | any which one |
| 16:54.29 | Luminax | not many tutorials around it seems.. and the one I used just won't work for some reason or others |
| 16:55.18 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, I can't wait to find the quest :) |
| 16:55.52 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: think it was a really nice gesture by Blizzard :) |
| 16:56.05 | Kirkburn | Oh definately |
| 16:56.24 | a-stray-cat | how interesting, there's no debuff for pounce stun? |
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| 16:57.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, does anyone know what changes they did to the armory? |
| 16:57.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently a bunch of new features went in, but I can't find any new changes.. |
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| 16:59.26 | zenzelezz | all I noticed was "An error occured" when I try to get a guild listing |
| 16:59.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Good ol' Blizzard. |
| 17:00.34 | Shirik | "Developer, an error occurs when I do this" "Well, stop doing that!" |
| 17:00.34 | ScytheBlade1 | It's funny because it's true |
| 17:00.34 | zenzelezz | "I told my doctor I broke my leg in two places. He told me to stop going to those places" |
| 17:01.33 | Industrial | lol |
| 17:01.53 | Adys | Anyone remembers the line to add to config.wtf to change the screenshot default format to png? |
| 17:02.02 | Shirik | SET screenshotFormat TGA |
| 17:02.03 | Shirik | er |
| 17:02.05 | Shirik | I guess PNG |
| 17:02.08 | Adys | ty :) |
| 17:02.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I tried PNG |
| 17:02.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Doesn't work |
| 17:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Only on OSX will it work |
| 17:02.17 | Adys | Mehh |
| 17:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | PC, you have either TGA or JPG |
| 17:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is depressing |
| 17:02.26 | Adys | guess its back to tga then :( |
| 17:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that's what I chose myself. |
| 17:02.59 | Vangual | no luxury of coreimage for png support on win :( |
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| 17:52.34 | Gnarfoz | how is that even remotely depressing, seeing that TGA is uncompressed anyway (at least WoW's is) |
| 17:52.45 | Gnarfoz | no quality loss, choose your own settings to compress |
| 17:53.18 | Industrial | id like png |
| 17:53.20 | Industrial | no scaling |
| 17:53.32 | Industrial | pixel perfect crisp gfx. |
| 17:53.49 | Industrial | wow makes things blurry :( |
| 17:53.57 | Gnarfoz | not in tga? oO |
| 17:55.24 | amro | TGAs look ok for me |
| 17:56.01 | Gnarfoz | indeed :) |
| 17:57.10 | Industrial | well most of the time when you set 1px borders or paddings it doesnt do it right |
| 17:57.25 | Industrial | but ofcours,e im thinking in pixels |
| 17:57.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:57.31 | Gnarfoz | that's a UI issue with scaling, right? ^^ |
| 17:57.54 | Industrial | yes |
| 17:58.11 | Gnarfoz | so, nothing to do with tga ;) |
| 17:58.15 | Vangual | you answered your own question yourself there gnarf, unintentionally :) |
| 17:58.35 | Gnarfoz | I had no question? :D |
| 17:59.05 | Vangual | lossless is the word you wanted in your question, uncompressed is the depressing part :) |
| 17:59.29 | Gnarfoz | WoW's are also not compressed, IIRC |
| 17:59.45 | Gnarfoz | I know TGA supports lossless (RLE if I'm not mistaken) compression |
| 18:00.15 | Shirik | be careful mixing those two |
| 18:00.16 | Vangual | that'd be weird if coreimage's png defaults to uncompressed png |
| 18:00.23 | Shirik | "not compressed" ~= "lossless compression" |
| 18:00.40 | Gnarfoz | no one said they were the same, but they can coexist |
| 18:00.46 | Vangual | i've never seen an uncompressed png actually |
| 18:00.46 | Shirik | I didn't read up :P |
| 18:01.18 | Gnarfoz | actually, all I was asking was if Industrial meant to say that having PNG screenshots would get rid of the UI related problem of 1 pixel not always being 1 pixel in WoW :> |
| 18:01.48 | Shirik | however, WoW's is definitely compressed |
| 18:01.48 | Vangual | only badly ones with a low degree of zlib |
| 18:01.48 | Shirik | otherwise you'd be looking at something like 35MB files |
| 18:01.50 | Shirik | (at my resolution, 35MB at least) |
| 18:01.50 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: no, i was just saying id like it to be so |
| 18:02.21 | Gnarfoz | actually shirik |
| 18:02.27 | Shirik | do the math |
| 18:02.30 | Gnarfoz | I just did |
| 18:02.34 | Gnarfoz | 5760000 |
| 18:02.41 | Gnarfoz | bytes per screenshot at 1600x1200x24 |
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| 18:03.12 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.15 | Vangual | that's rather heavy compression, 6mb for such a huge bitmap? |
| 18:03.15 | Gnarfoz | I dunno if mine are actually that fat, but lossless encoding might get rid of some of that |
| 18:03.24 | Shirik | oops |
| 18:03.27 | Shirik | dododo |
| 18:03.33 | Shirik | divide by 8, right... |
| 18:03.51 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 18:04.08 | End | yeah, I was about to say...it is 24 bits :P |
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| 18:04.49 | End | 35 MB would be a little large |
| 18:05.05 | Shirik | 35 Mb.. |
| 18:05.14 | Shirik | my shift key was broke |
| 18:05.15 | Shirik | that's my excuse |
| 18:05.26 | End | lol |
| 18:05.47 | Jumpee | Does anybody know the name of the frame of the Blizzard raid pullout for group1 button1? |
| 18:06.02 | Shirik | that's what /dtframestack is for! |
| 18:10.25 | Aita | Is it possible you meant: return a[rawsort] < b[rawsort]? |
| 18:22.15 | foxlit | Yesyes |
| 18:22.24 | foxlit | Was a typo, I was more concerned about variable scoping |
| 18:23.17 | Shirik | that will work fine then |
| 18:23.18 | zenzelezz | my gun has higher DPS than my axe :-| |
| 18:23.28 | Shirik | but you may consider |
| 18:23.46 | Shirik | if you're going to be defining something like that |
| 18:23.50 | Shirik | maybe a metatable instead |
| 18:24.01 | Shirik | then you could do table.sort(raw, function(a,b) return a < b; end) |
| 18:24.21 | Shirik | just a thought, not really necessary |
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| 18:24.42 | foxlit | Problem is rawsort varies, and I get a new raw table every time that runs |
| 18:24.58 | foxlit | It'd be interesting to cache the sort function, spawning anonymous ones every time is probably silly |
| 18:25.05 | foxlit | >>> "ping" |
| 18:25.06 | Cide | foxlit: "ping" |
| 18:25.33 | foxlit | >>> a = gcinfo(); for i=1,5000 do a = function(a,b) do end end; end; print(gcinfo()-a) |
| 18:25.33 | Cide | foxlit: [string "a = gcinfo(); for i=1,5000 do a = function(..."]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'a' (a function value) |
| 18:25.42 | foxlit | >>> a = gcinfo(); for i=1,5000 do ba = function(a,b) do end end; end; print(gcinfo()-a) |
| 18:25.42 | Cide | foxlit: 14 |
| 18:25.53 | Shirik | gcinfo() is deprecated!! |
| 18:26.37 | Shirik | >>> return collectgarbage "count", gcinfo() |
| 18:26.38 | Cide | Shirik: 51.5107421875, 51 |
| 18:27.24 | foxlit | What's the difference again? |
| 18:27.41 | Shirik | not only is collectgarbage() more accurage, gcinfo is deprecated :P |
| 18:29.22 | foxlit | Ah well, wasn't terribly bothered |
| 18:29.37 | foxlit | >>> a = gcinfo(); for i=1,5000 do ba = i; end print(gcinfo()-a) |
| 18:29.37 | Cide | foxlit: 0 |
| 18:31.06 | Josh_Borke | ints = free |
| 18:31.18 | foxlit | >>> a = gcinfo(); for i=1,5000 do ba = "" .. i; end print(gcinfo()-a) |
| 18:31.19 | Cide | foxlit: 13 |
| 18:31.29 | Josh_Borke | >>> a = gcinfo(); for i = 1, 5000 do ba = function(x) return i end end print(gcinfo()-a) |
| 18:31.29 | Cide | Josh_Borke: 14 |
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| 18:32.59 | Josh_Borke | >>> a = collectgarbage("stop"); for i = 1, 5000 do ba = function() return i end end print(collectgarbage("start")) |
| 18:32.59 | Cide | Josh_Borke: [string "a = collectgarbage("stop"); for i = 1, 5000..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'collectgarbage' (invalid option 'start') |
| 18:33.16 | Josh_Borke | >>> a = collectgarbage("stop"); for i = 1, 5000 do ba = function() return i end end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:33.17 | Cide | Josh_Borke: 325.45703125 |
| 18:33.23 | Josh_Borke | that's better |
| 18:34.26 | Josh_Borke | >>> a = collectgarbage("stop"); for i = 1, 5000 do ba = function() return {i} end end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:34.26 | Cide | Josh_Borke: 325.4765625 |
| 18:34.29 | Josh_Borke | no it's not... |
| 18:34.32 | foxlit | >>> a = collectgarbage("stop"); for i = 1, 5000 do ba = function() do end end end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:34.32 | Cide | foxlit: 149.63671875 |
| 18:35.52 | Josh_Borke | >>> a = collectgarbage("collect"); collectgarbage("stop") for i = 1, 5000 do ba = function() return {i} end end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:35.53 | Cide | Josh_Borke: 319.88671875 |
| 18:36.41 | foxlit | wtb: mobhealth support for focus target :P |
| 18:37.31 | Josh_Borke | >>> a = collectgarbage("collect"); collectgarbage("stop") for i = 1, 50000 do ba = function() return {i} end end print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:37.32 | Cide | Josh_Borke: 2780.826171875 |
| 18:39.50 | foxlit | Okay, other scoping question |
| 18:39.51 | Josh_Borke | >>> collectgarbage("count") |
| 18:39.51 | Cide | Josh_Borke: 51.6689453125 |
| 18:40.10 | foxlit | function csort(a, b) return a[sortparam] < b[sortparam; end |
| 18:40.17 | foxlit | then: |
| 18:40.27 | foxlit | local sortparam = "stuff"; table.sort(sorttable, csort); |
| 18:40.31 | Josh_Borke | >>> collectgarbage("stop") function bad() for i = 1, 5000 function() return i end end end; bad() print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:40.32 | Cide | Josh_Borke: [string "collectgarbage("stop") function bad() for i = 1, 5000 function(..."]:1: 'do' expected near 'function' |
| 18:40.36 | foxlit | would sortparam scope into csort? |
| 18:40.40 | Josh_Borke | >>> collectgarbage("stop") function bad() for i = 1, 5000 do function() return i end end end; bad() print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:40.40 | Cide | Josh_Borke: [string "collectgarbage("stop") function bad() for i = 1, 5000 do functi..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '(' |
| 18:41.03 | Josh_Borke | >>> collectgarbage("stop") function bad() for i = 1, 5000 do local ba = function() return i end end end; bad() print(collectgarbage("count")) |
| 18:41.04 | Cide | Josh_Borke: 325.6494140625 |
| 18:41.11 | Josh_Borke | interesting |
| 18:41.26 | foxlit | >>> collectgarbage("stop") |
| 18:41.26 | Cide | foxlit: 0 |
| 18:41.30 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: only if csort is defined AFTER sortparam |
| 18:41.55 | foxlit | So I have to create a new one each time? |
| 18:42.24 | Josh_Borke | you're trying to dynamically set the sort parameter? |
| 18:42.30 | foxlit | Yew |
| 18:42.31 | foxlit | Yes |
| 18:42.38 | Josh_Borke | then ya, you'll have to define a new one each time |
| 18:42.52 | foxlit | Silly :/ |
| 18:47.36 | TC-Working | has anyone had any experiance with intel's GMA X3000? |
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| 19:26.45 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWHI4VcBP4E |
| 19:30.40 | Mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32345 |
| 19:31.34 | zenzelezz | leveling a melee weapon takes time... leveling a ranged weapon sucks :-| |
| 19:33.00 | Shirik | I just got |
| 19:33.04 | Shirik | 6 90s in a row |
| 19:33.08 | Shirik | with /roll |
| 19:33.09 | Shirik | o.o |
| 19:35.33 | zenzelezz | Haxxirik |
| 19:37.35 | Mikma | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=33338&locale=enUS;source=live |
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| 19:47.27 | Naurbrannon | Hi there people, may I ask you what's wrong with http://wowi.pastey.net/39676 ? <_> |
| 19:47.52 | zenzelezz | are you getting an error? |
| 19:48.02 | Naurbrannon | nope but clicking on the frame does nothing |
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| 19:54.51 | Industrial | how do I deal with the FUCKING summoned adds as a hunter |
| 19:55.01 | Punkie` | m-m-m-ultishot! |
| 19:55.11 | Punkie` | trap them too |
| 19:55.15 | zenzelezz | adds where? |
| 19:55.17 | Industrial | ya what if they are bing summones like 5 at once :| |
| 19:55.32 | Punkie` | frost trap and kite! gogogo! |
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| 19:58.14 | Josh_Borke | don't you have to define the spell to be cast based on state? |
| 19:58.23 | Josh_Borke | wait |
| 19:58.36 | Josh_Borke | can StateDrivers be clickable buttons too? |
| 19:58.55 | nevcairiel | why is setting shift-action* not working on my actionbuttons. grrr |
| 19:58.58 | Josh_Borke | i thought state drivers were non-interactable stuff and you had to create buttons to do stuff |
| 19:59.08 | Naurbrannon | the frame inherits SecureActionButtonTemplate |
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| 20:11.03 | KarlThePagan | do scrolls of str and agi stack with elixers? |
| 20:11.54 | KarlThePagan | since scrolls are basically spells (fort, int... don't stack with em) |
| 20:12.02 | KarlThePagan | and they made fort/int stack with elixers |
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| 20:15.13 | Tuller | nevcairiel: shift-action? |
| 20:16.41 | Tuller | well damn, jumping down from the scryer's tier does not kill me |
| 20:18.27 | End | unless you jump into the lower city |
| 20:18.54 | nevcairiel | Tuller: yeah, why not? :o i was trying to clean my state code, replacing state-shift with shift-action* |
| 20:18.54 | End | but then you aren't exactly going the "main" route |
| 20:22.45 | Tuller | nevcairiel: RegisterStateDriver(bar, "quickpage", "[modifier:shift]1;[modifier:alt]2;[modifier:ctrl]3;0") |
| 20:22.54 | Tuller | End: I'm trying to kill myself to reproduce a bongos error :) |
| 20:23.48 | Tuller | nevcairiel: the new statedriver method is much simpler to use |
| 20:24.22 | End | ah |
| 20:25.07 | Naurbrannon | if it's so easy...can't you please tell me what's wrong with http://wowi.pastey.net/39676 ? ^_^" |
| 20:25.36 | Kaso | Priests now get a second casting bar for mind controlled pets |
| 20:25.49 | Kaso | thats so awesome |
| 20:25.49 | Naurbrannon | I guess I'm using the statedriver the wrong way :/ |
| 20:26.14 | End | it shows a seperate casting bar? |
| 20:26.38 | End | where does it appear? |
| 20:26.47 | nevcairiel | Tuller: is there any documentation on that somewhere? i couldnt find anything about it in the comments |
| 20:27.08 | Tuller | nevcairiel: its the macro syntax, basically |
| 20:27.28 | nevcairiel | whats with the quickpage? |
| 20:27.42 | nevcairiel | just a name? |
| 20:27.51 | Naurbrannon | what "bar" must be? |
| 20:28.21 | nevcairiel | hm guess its just a name |
| 20:28.27 | Tuller | nevcairiel: its used for statemaps |
| 20:28.31 | nevcairiel | need to think about using that |
| 20:28.40 | nevcairiel | yeah i just got it :) |
| 20:28.43 | Kaso | End, im not sure, it appeared as a default casting bar to me, i usually have ocb |
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| 20:28.54 | nevcairiel | it creates a new field for me .. like state-quickpage .. where i can put stuff on |
| 20:28.57 | Kaso | but i guess above the default one |
| 20:29.02 | End | hmm |
| 20:29.46 | nevcairiel | but then again, it doesnt really solve my issues :P |
| 20:30.04 | Tuller | nevcairiel: nifty part is that its evaluated from left to right, so you can create a really complex header |
| 20:30.48 | nevcairiel | the problem is, when i have 3 overlapping states, like stance, manual switch from state-actionbar, and a state-shift or so .. it gets complicated if the user changes stance in that instant :P |
| 20:30.55 | Kaydeethree | <3 "Wait time currently unavailable." |
| 20:31.05 | Tuller | nevcairiel: "[actionbar:2]10;[stance:1]1;0" |
| 20:31.19 | Tuller | nevcairiel: that switches to state 10 if you're on page 2, regardless of what stance you're in |
| 20:31.27 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 20:31.33 | Industrial | Are yellow mobs supposed to give crushing blows? :| isnt onl orange and up? |
| 20:31.33 | nevcairiel | its a bit more complicated :) |
| 20:32.41 | nevcairiel | meh i cant think straight today |
| 20:32.49 | zenzelezz | Julianne has the suckiest crushing blows I've experienced |
| 20:32.53 | Tuller | nevcairiel: the layering is built into that header |
| 20:33.15 | nevcairiel | yeah,i think i can use it |
| 20:33.20 | nevcairiel | but, i cant think right now :D |
| 20:33.26 | nevcairiel | headache all day :( |
| 20:35.13 | nevcairiel | but thanks, i think i have a good idea howto do it now :) |
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| 20:57.54 | Naurbrannon | so....please isn't anyone able to help me with that state driver? T_T |
| 21:00.43 | Naurbrannon | or can at least provide me with an example of use of a RegisterStateDriver and the following frame:SetAttribute() so that I can try to guess? |
| 21:06.23 | Kaso | Naurbrannon, have you seen http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SecureTemplates ? |
| 21:07.06 | Naurbrannon | statedrivers documentation missing |
| 21:07.48 | Naurbrannon | I've already done successful stuff with states (stances), I'm trying to define my own states with RegisterStateDriver, without success |
| 21:07.57 | Naurbrannon | the code I'm trying is http://wowi.pastey.net/39676 |
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| 21:22.49 | nevcairiel | this thing is amazing, deleted half my state file :P |
| 21:23.08 | Naurbrannon | please post me an example T_T |
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| 21:41.01 | Naurbrannon | changed it a bit http://wowi.pastey.net/39753 now banish works (because it's 0 I suppose) but all ther est doesn't |
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| 21:50.54 | TC-Working | they should have WoW for bored ppl that cant play |
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| 21:51.43 | TC-Working | e.g. a chat program that ties in with your servers general chat, so you can screw around |
| 21:54.49 | Kaso | you what need to do |
| 21:55.09 | Naurbrannon | me? |
| 21:55.21 | Kaso | is write a script to run on your home computer that hooks irc and then sends out keypresses to wow :> |
| 21:55.25 | Kaso | TC-Working, that is :> |
| 21:55.29 | Naurbrannon | meh >.< |
| 21:55.56 | Kaso | states, ihavent had to use yet so havent learnt sorry |
| 21:56.19 | Naurbrannon | np, I'm just kinda frustrated by the lack of proper documentation |
| 21:57.59 | Tem | there's more than adequate documentation in the file itself if you bother to read it |
| 21:58.35 | Naurbrannon | I have no idea where to get the more recent source, maybe you can help me with that |
| 21:58.50 | nevcairiel | use the interface extractor from blizz |
| 22:00.33 | Kaydeethree | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 22:01.05 | Naurbrannon | ty |
| 22:02.33 | TC-Working | kaso, but that wont keep wow logged in nor will it allow me to read what it being typed |
| 22:02.52 | TC-Working | hmm..maybe some screen recognition software |
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| 22:17.53 | Gnarfoz | TC-Working: will also get you banned ^^ |
| 22:18.35 | TC-Working | the typeing will, but not the screen rec software i dont think |
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| 22:34.37 | Naurbrannon | couls anyone please explain me what frame:SetAttribute("statemap-stance", "$input"); exactly does? |
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| 22:37.29 | foxlit | Bah! I demand a trinary operator, obj.li[un] = (obj.li[un] and nil or true); isn't going to work |
| 22:38.32 | Karrion | Naurbrannon: I _think_ it sets the state to change on stance changes, to the number of the stance |
| 22:38.34 | foxlit | Naurbrannon: If I'm reading it correctly, that attribute handles a translation between a state of a specific header and the state of the frame |
| 22:38.52 | foxlit | In this case, when state "stance" changes, the state of frame changes to the same value. |
| 22:39.26 | Naurbrannon | and what is "$input" oO |
| 22:39.46 | foxlit | $input just denotes that it should change state to whatever the header propagating the stance state is set to |
| 22:40.17 | TC-Working | e.g. simon says |
| 22:40.41 | foxlit | It's how I propagate state changes down header chains, for example |
| 22:41.34 | foxlit | One of the headers gets :SetAttribute("exportstate","indetifier"), children get :SetAttribute("statemap-interfier","$input") if I want to propagate it exactly |
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| 22:42.53 | Naurbrannon | ok so must I do header:SetAttribute("exportstate", "childName");? |
| 22:43.05 | foxlit | Not childName |
| 22:43.30 | Naurbrannon | shouldn't the button be a child of the header? |
| 22:43.31 | foxlit | It automatically exports it to children; the value of exportstate determines which statemap the children use to translate from their parent's state to their own state |
| 22:43.55 | foxlit | So yes, a button has to be a child, but "exportstate" is not used to denote the child name :) |
| 22:43.59 | Naurbrannon | ah ok |
| 22:44.13 | Naurbrannon | soheader:SetAttrubute |
| 22:44.17 | Naurbrannon | mt |
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| 22:45.12 | Naurbrannon | so |
| 22:45.13 | Naurbrannon | header:SetAttrubute("exportstate", "example"); |
| 22:45.13 | Naurbrannon | button:SetAttrubute("statemap-example", "$input"); |
| 22:45.13 | Naurbrannon | ? |
| 22:45.36 | foxlit | Yep |
| 22:45.50 | Naurbrannon | great, thanks a lot, trying now |
| 22:45.56 | foxlit | That way if you do header:SetAttribute("state", 5), button:GetAttribute("state") == 5 |
| 22:48.22 | Naurbrannon | mmm and "example" must be the same I'm using as second parameter for RegisterStateDriver? |
| 22:55.33 | foxlit | I'm not sure about that |
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| 23:01.24 | Mike-N-Go | Cool, one may have 3 frames open at once, if one be the NPC quest-frame. |
| 23:06.11 | Lysistrata | Not "that" usefulll |
| 23:09.14 | foxlit | Quick way to check if your target is in your raid? |
| 23:09.29 | Naurbrannon | there's a function I think |
| 23:09.51 | foxlit | Was mainly wondering if UnitInRaid is generic or not |
| 23:12.54 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know how to disable click through map with Cartographer? |
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| 23:15.21 | foxlit | Oh good lord. |
| 23:15.51 | foxlit | The silly 25-minute job at an Apexis Relic addon is getting more downloads than stuff I spent a year or so on :/ |
| 23:16.15 | Kaydeethree | eesh |
| 23:16.22 | batrick | i like it when i see a 50kb xml file and no .lua file |
| 23:16.34 | Naurbrannon | :D |
| 23:16.45 | foxlit | Hey, I have a 43KB XML file |
| 23:16.54 | batrick | look at implication |
| 23:17.00 | foxlit | Granted, I also have 167KB of LUA :P |
| 23:17.16 | foxlit | Oh, I dunno. |
| 23:17.23 | foxlit | You could code everything in XML if you wanted to |
| 23:17.33 | Bam__ | is there a simple way to figure out if there is an edit box currently having the focus? |
| 23:18.14 | foxlit | Checked [[Widget_API]]? |
| 23:18.21 | batrick | foxlit it would do terrible terrible things to the global environ |
| 23:18.43 | Bam__ | yea |
| 23:19.06 | Bam__ | problem is that some keyboard related events are not fired when an editbox has focus |
| 23:19.10 | Bam__ | like MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED |
| 23:19.18 | foxlit | The global environment is there to be done horrible things to. |
| 23:19.28 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 23:19.42 | Bam__ | it has to be fast too :P |
| 23:22.07 | Shirik | 19:19:58 ‹foxlit› The global environment is there to be done horrible things to. |
| 23:22.09 | Shirik | foxlit |
| 23:22.11 | Shirik | I hate you now |
| 23:22.18 | Shirik | you are the kind of guy that does |
| 23:22.28 | Shirik | for k,v in pairs(_G) do _G[k] = nil; end |
| 23:23.21 | Bam__ | not as bad as when I by mistake did setfenv(0, {}) |
| 23:23.31 | Shirik | I'm tempted to |
| 23:23.38 | Bam__ | it crashed wow :P |
| 23:23.42 | Shirik | local last = nil; for k,v in pairs(_G) do last = _G[k]; _G[k] = last; end |
| 23:23.50 | Shirik | oop |
| 23:24.16 | Shirik | I mean |
| 23:24.41 | Shirik | local last = nil; for k,v in pairs(_G) do local swap = _G[k]; _G[k] = last; last = swap; end |
| 23:25.29 | Shirik | push everything up one slot |
| 23:25.42 | chuckg | There an updated xml package? |
| 23:25.47 | chuckg | UI Dev kit I guess yo ucall it? |
| 23:25.51 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:25.54 | Shirik | it pulls it from your install |
| 23:26.21 | Bam__ | for k, v in pairs(_G) do if type(v) == "string" then _G[k] = "Learn to use local variables!" end end |
| 23:26.29 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:26.38 | Bam__ | :P |
| 23:26.59 | Bam__ | the fun we could have... :D |
| 23:27.09 | foxlit | You'd kill my entire localization! |
| 23:27.20 | Bam__ | :O |
| 23:27.25 | batrick | ya |
| 23:27.36 | batrick | bad |
| 23:28.00 | Shirik | wtf |
| 23:28.06 | Shirik | your localization is global vars? |
| 23:28.08 | Shirik | I should shoot you now |
| 23:28.13 | batrick | hey hey |
| 23:28.19 | batrick | nothing wrong with that |
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| 23:28.25 | Shirik | it should be a global table |
| 23:28.29 | foxlit | They're obscure enough to not collide with anything |
| 23:28.30 | Bam__ | oh no problem... I can localize that script :P |
| 23:28.54 | foxlit | Yeah, well, historical reasons |
| 23:29.10 | foxlit | Plus it acts as its own fallthrough if localization for other locales isn't done |
| 23:29.39 | foxlit | Oh wow. |
| 23:29.44 | foxlit | for k, v in pairs(_G) do if type(v) == "string" then _G[k] = "Learn to use local variables!" end end |
| 23:29.54 | foxlit | Killed pretty much everything blizzard-like |
| 23:30.09 | Bam__ | yea :P |
| 23:30.34 | foxlit | My trusty luapad hotkey to the rescue! |
| 23:32.13 | foxlit | On second thought, I should've just killed wow |
| 23:32.34 | Bam__ | lol yea... don't think there is a way back from that :P |
| 23:32.44 | foxlit | Well, yes, there is |
| 23:32.52 | foxlit | I'm just too lazy to do it, though |
| 23:32.53 | Corrodias | it would certainly be nice if they'd change their variables to be less global |
| 23:33.01 | Bam__ | indeed! |
| 23:33.17 | Corrodias | stupid Aspected... how many global variables per button does it have? AspectedButton1, AspectedButton1Icon, AspectedButton1NormalTexture... |
| 23:33.33 | Corrodias | plus however many more. times ten. |
| 23:33.36 | foxlit | Tbh, global namespace is there to be global :P |
| 23:34.00 | Corrodias | onupdate is there to run scripts every frame |
| 23:34.07 | Corrodias | that doesn't mean using it heavily is a good idea |
| 23:34.12 | foxlit | All this "but my addon lives in a table secluded from it" is of dubious value |
| 23:34.26 | Bam__ | RegisterAllEvents is there to.... :P |
| 23:34.48 | Corrodias | you must have one entry in the global variables table in order for anything to reference your stuff. but you don't need to put 200 variables in there if you only need one. |
| 23:34.58 | foxlit | Where's the benefit! |
| 23:35.10 | Shirik | lack of pollution |
| 23:35.11 | Corrodias | on the small scale? little |
| 23:35.15 | Bam__ | locality of code |
| 23:35.26 | Corrodias | if one addon of all 160+ of my addons did this, i would see little to no improvement |
| 23:35.46 | Corrodias | if all 160 of them did it, i might see some improvement indeed. if blizzard's code did it also, i can't imagine. |
| 23:36.04 | Bam__ | it's more a software design issue than a technical issue in my opinion |
| 23:36.15 | foxlit | Improvement = lack of name reservation inside global namespace? |
| 23:36.42 | foxlit | I can't see any actual performance gain - if anything, you're adding 160 more tables to the picture. |
| 23:36.55 | Bam__ | there isn't one |
| 23:37.11 | Corrodias | how can you check the number of entries in a table in lua? |
| 23:37.13 | Bam__ | but there can be a performance gain using local variables |
| 23:37.28 | foxlit | Corrodias: table or array? |
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| 23:37.34 | Corrodias | _G, to be specific |
| 23:38.00 | foxlit | m = 0; for k in ipairs(_G) do m = k; end |
| 23:38.47 | foxlit | Okay, maye not |
| 23:38.55 | foxlit | m = 0; for k in pairs(_G) do m = m + 1; end |
| 23:39.21 | Bam__ | that looks ok... pointless but harmless :P |
| 23:39.46 | Bam__ | oh you are counting... duh |
| 23:40.18 | Cide | Corrodias: you do realize you need one entry per widget if you use xml, right? |
| 23:40.32 | foxlit | >>> unpack({k="boh",v="doh",1,2,3}) |
| 23:40.32 | Cide | foxlit: 1, 2, 3 |
| 23:40.43 | Bam__ | you could leave out the name attribute :P |
| 23:40.49 | Cide | then you can't access it |
| 23:41.09 | Bam__ | and store a reference to the frame in the OnLoad handler :D |
| 23:41.27 | Bam__ | not saying there is a point to it :P |
| 23:41.33 | Shirik | >>> setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = 1}); return aowefjaow; |
| 23:41.33 | Cide | Shirik: [string "setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = 1}); re..."]:1: attempt to index a number value |
| 23:41.41 | Shirik | huh? |
| 23:41.47 | Corrodias | hey, i don't knoe much of anything |
| 23:42.20 | Shirik | >>> setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = 1}); |
| 23:42.20 | Cide | Shirik: { ["log"] = function: 00239E48, ["wow"] = { ["strconcat"] = function: 0023AA58, ["strtrim"] = function: 0023A9B8, ["debugstack"] = function: 0023AAB8, ["getglobal"] = function: 0023AA78, ["setglobal"]... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 23:42.33 | Shirik | >>> setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = 1}); return some_variable_that_doesnt_exist |
| 23:42.33 | Cide | Shirik: [string "setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = 1}); re..."]:1: attempt to index a number value |
| 23:43.02 | Shirik | that's.... interesting |
| 23:43.08 | foxlit | setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = function() return 1 end}); return some_variable_that_doesnt_exist |
| 23:43.15 | foxlit | >>> setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = function() return 1 end}); return some_variable_that_doesnt_exist |
| 23:43.15 | Cide | foxlit: 1 |
| 23:43.23 | foxlit | If you meant that |
| 23:43.29 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 23:43.29 | Shirik | oops |
| 23:43.33 | Shirik | huh, that's interesting |
| 23:43.36 | Shirik | and kinda cool |
| 23:43.37 | Shirik | at the same time |
| 23:43.41 | Cide | Corrodias: then you probably shouldn't discuss performance "issues" :P |
| 23:43.53 | Bam__ | table with default values |
| 23:44.03 | Shirik | no |
| 23:44.08 | foxlit | I use that for self-caching tables primarely |
| 23:44.08 | Shirik | the GLOBAL table, with default values |
| 23:44.10 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 23:44.15 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 23:44.21 | Shirik | a variable that doesn't exist is no longer nil |
| 23:44.26 | foxlit | Data goes in as key, __index does calcs, stores in table. Future accesses are more or less free. |
| 23:44.41 | Bam__ | oh yea... might give somebody debugging a little grey hair :D |
| 23:45.09 | Shirik | better yet |
| 23:45.16 | Shirik | the metatable should be |
| 23:45.34 | Shirik | {__index = function() return 0; end, __metatable = "GTFO!"} |
| 23:45.46 | Shirik | that way they can't "fix" it |
| 23:45.54 | Bam__ | uh oh... soon Shirik will cause his entire guild to crash again :P |
| 23:46.03 | Shirik | it's what I live for |
| 23:46.14 | Shirik | they all know not to piss me off |
| 23:46.16 | Shirik | for I control RDX |
| 23:46.19 | Corrodias | i think we're trying the curator for the first time tonight |
| 23:46.23 | Shirik | and they all know they all blindly install it |
| 23:46.29 | Bam__ | actually I think Blizzard "restores" the global environment on each event handler invocation |
| 23:46.35 | Shirik | ok |
| 23:46.40 | Shirik | well no |
| 23:46.41 | Shirik | it can't |
| 23:46.52 | Corrodias | my global namespace has 64,622 entries in it |
| 23:46.58 | Shirik | watch |
| 23:47.00 | foxlit | 27k for me :P |
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| 23:47.40 | Corrodias | every single time an addon references a variable it must search this table of 64 thousand entries :/ which i think isn't all that slow with the hashing, but it has to add up after a while |
| 23:47.55 | Shirik | >>> setmetatable(gfenv(0), {__index = function() return 0; end, __metatable = "GTFO!"}); --[[ Now that we have done this, blizzard tries to restore it ]] setmetatable(getfenv(0), {}); |
| 23:47.55 | Cide | Shirik: [string "setmetatable(gfenv(0), {__index = function(..."]:1: attempt to call global 'gfenv' (a nil value) |
| 23:47.58 | Shirik | op |
| 23:48.14 | Shirik | >>> local setmetatable = setmetatable; setmetatable(gfenv(0), {__index = function() return 0; end, __metatable = "GTFO!"}); --[[ Now that we have done this, blizzard tries to restore it ]] setmetatable(getfenv(0), {}); |
| 23:48.14 | Cide | Shirik: [string "local setmetatable = setmetatable; setmetat..."]:1: attempt to call global 'gfenv' (a nil value) |
| 23:48.17 | Shirik | !! |
| 23:48.22 | Shirik | >>> local setmetatable = setmetatable; setmetatable(getenv(0), {__index = function() return 0; end, __metatable = "GTFO!"}); --[[ Now that we have done this, blizzard tries to restore it ]] setmetatable(getfenv(0), {}); |
| 23:48.22 | Cide | Shirik: [string "local setmetatable = setmetatable; setmetat..."]:1: attempt to call global 'getenv' (a nil value) |
| 23:48.26 | Shirik | ............ |
| 23:48.30 | Shirik | I'll get this in a second >.> |
| 23:48.31 | foxlit | Newsflash: Shirik can't spell. |
| 23:48.47 | Shirik | >>> local setmetatable = setmetatable, getfenv; setmetatable(getfenv(0), {__index = function() return 0; end, __metatable = "GTFO!"}); --[[ Now that we have done this, blizzard tries to restore it ]] setmetatable(getfenv(0), {}); |
| 23:48.47 | Cide | Shirik: [string "local setmetatable = setmetatable, getfenv;..."]:1: cannot change a protected metatable |
| 23:48.50 | Shirik | there you go |
| 23:48.54 | foxlit | "Damn you kids! Foiled my evil plans again by forcing me to spell getfenavaewihtingy" |
| 23:48.56 | Shirik | and that's why Blizzard can't "fix" it :P |
| 23:49.12 | foxlit | tbh, I'm not sure I like that aspect of Lua. |
| 23:49.20 | foxlit | But you can probably fix it C-side |
| 23:49.22 | Bam__ | well they don't need to do it via Lua |
| 23:49.31 | Shirik | not sure you can fix it C-side, but I wouldn't know |
| 23:49.45 | Shirik | a lot of Lua rules persist through C |
| 23:49.52 | foxlit | Creating locks you can't open is evil. |
| 23:50.00 | Shirik | I completely agree |
| 23:50.02 | Bam__ | depends how much they have hacked the Lua interpreter |
| 23:50.45 | foxlit | Though I might actually use that to make sure nobody overwrites CA keys |
| 23:51.20 | foxlit | Question of the day: will setting a metatable on _G taint everything? |
| 23:51.28 | Shirik | on _G, no |
| 23:51.34 | Shirik | on getfenv() |
| 23:51.36 | Shirik | good question |
| 23:51.46 | Shirik | recall that _G is a reference to getfenv(0) |
| 23:51.56 | Shirik | but setting a metatable on _G will not set it on getfenv(0) iirc |
| 23:52.00 | Shirik | >>> _G |
| 23:52.00 | Cide | Shirik: { ["log"] = function: 00289E48, ["wow"] = { ["strconcat"] = function: 0028AA58, ["strtrim"] = function: 0028A9B8, ["debugstack"] = function: 0028AAB8, ["getglobal"] = function: 0028AA78, ["setglobal"]... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 23:52.15 | Shirik | >>> setmetatable(_G, {__metatable = "hi"}); return getmetatable(getfenv(0)) |
| 23:52.15 | Cide | Shirik: "hi" |
| 23:52.19 | Shirik | and I am apparently wrong |
| 23:52.20 | Bam__ | it will only taint if secure code accesses some value via the metatable I think |
| 23:52.22 | Shirik | then good question |
| 23:52.51 | Bam__ | I believe you can even safely add to a frames metatable |
| 23:53.00 | Bam__ | not that I'd recommend it :P |
| 23:53.11 | foxlit | Which doesn't save me from having a reference to the frame removed from _G |
