| 00:00.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | "...\trinketmenu.lua:559: in function "IsTimerActive" |
| 00:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | "...\trinketmenu.lua:576: in function 'StopTimer'" |
| 00:01.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | "...\trinketmenu.lua:885: in function 'ClearTooltip'" |
| 00:02.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | [string "*:OnLeave"]:1: in function <[string "*:OnLeave"]:1> |
| 00:03.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's a gello mod, so i expect it to be resolved sometime between now and the next expansion :x |
| 00:04.55 | Kaso | which ace addon is it that fucks it up? |
| 00:06.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't pin it down |
| 00:06.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | because like i said, pitbull OR oRA being on, it works |
| 00:06.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | but with both, it breaks |
| 00:06.44 | Kaso | that is wierd ass |
| 00:07.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd really like someone else to try it |
| 00:07.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i don't look crazy |
| 00:07.20 | Kaso | gimme a moment ill try install all three |
| 00:07.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd appreciate it |
| 00:10.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now it seems to be breaking with either disabled because of some library |
| 00:11.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i decided to try out standalonelibs |
| 00:11.46 | Kaso | it doesnt seem to error from simple switching |
| 00:12.04 | Kaso | anything more complex i need to do or am i lucky? |
| 00:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's just totally blank |
| 00:12.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't see my trinkets, the options menu is blank |
| 00:12.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a frame there, but no trinkets in it |
| 00:13.06 | Kaso | Disable all but oRA, pitbull and trinketmenu |
| 00:13.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 00:13.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and got that |
| 00:13.58 | Kaso | no stand alone libs |
| 00:14.04 | Kaso | just default installs of all three? |
| 00:14.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, did the same thing with default installs of all 3 |
| 00:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess i'm gonna find out which lib seems to be doing it |
| 00:15.21 | Kaso | do you happen to have grep installed? |
| 00:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 00:16.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's driving me insane though |
| 00:18.17 | Kaso | im a little puzzled by this myself |
| 00:19.07 | Kaso | do you have web hosting of any kind? |
| 00:19.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, why do you ask |
| 00:19.21 | Kaso | i'd be cool if you could zip up your AddOns folder |
| 00:19.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 00:19.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see how big it is and i may be able to figure something out |
| 00:19.38 | Kaso | perhaps you could email to me at JonathanDuncan@gmail.com |
| 00:19.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, just enabling pitbull seems to break it with standalonelibs up |
| 00:19.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 00:20.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sec |
| 00:20.10 | Shirik | damn it >.> |
| 00:20.23 | Shirik | I just spent the last 10 minutes waiting for this packet to "finish transmitting" |
| 00:20.36 | Shirik | when I finally gave up and started looking at the data it was sending, I find out it's the same thing over and over again |
| 00:20.41 | Shirik | and I forgot a n = n + 1; in the loop |
| 00:20.59 | Shirik | yeah... |
| 00:21.02 | Kaso | haha |
| 00:21.03 | Shirik | and I said I do it too, right? :P |
| 00:21.21 | Kaso | i blame lua's lack of ++ |
| 00:21.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay one sec kaso |
| 00:21.26 | Shirik | totally |
| 00:24.56 | cladhaire | ++ is horrible. |
| 00:25.26 | Kaso | why? |
| 00:25.35 | JoshBorke | purl, cladhaire++ |
| 00:25.43 | cladhaire | its syntactically corrupt |
| 00:25.49 | cladhaire | makes a language more difficult to parse |
| 00:25.53 | cladhaire | and doesn't _gain_ you anything. |
| 00:26.18 | JoshBorke | you're syntacticly corrupt |
| 00:26.33 | cladhaire | very true =) |
| 00:27.01 | Kaso | but it saves me typing like two characters! |
| 00:27.13 | JoshBorke | or more depending on the variable name! |
| 00:27.20 | Kaso | indeed |
| 00:27.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing you have winrar kaso? |
| 00:27.48 | Kaso | i can handle whatever you throw at me# |
| 00:27.53 | Kaso | tar.gz if you want |
| 00:28.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 00:28.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably .rar because it's small and winrar tends to compress .rar faster than any other format |
| 00:28.58 | Kaso | sounds good for me |
| 00:29.17 | Kaso | im using ubuntu atm and ive yet to come across something i downloaded i cant uncompress |
| 00:29.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's gonna be ugly as hell though, i'm warning you :P |
| 00:29.28 | Kaso | even cide's .zips! but that took a bit of work |
| 00:29.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | likely scary also without any of my savedvars |
| 00:29.52 | Kaso | dont worry |
| 00:30.05 | Kaso | as long as i can see a chat frame i should be ok to debug most stuff |
| 00:30.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | 95 mb uncompressed |
| 00:30.44 | Kaso | WHAT?! |
| 00:30.57 | Kaso | how many addons do you have |
| 00:31.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sec |
| 00:31.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll tell you when its done |
| 00:31.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 00:31.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | 161 folders |
| 00:31.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 mb compressed though |
| 00:31.54 | Kaso | i currently have three backups of my addons folders and all that comes to 64.6 MB |
| 00:31.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot how well text files compressed |
| 00:32.19 | Kaso | yah text files do get awesome compression |
| 00:32.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, it's a lot of redundant libraries and stuff |
| 00:32.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | same here |
| 00:35.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | lossy doesn't matter too much with some formats, like FLAC versus high quality VBR mp3s, i can't hear a difference :o |
| 00:36.14 | cladhaire | Kaso: look up Huffman coding |
| 00:36.17 | cladhaire | its the basis for all of it |
| 00:36.19 | cladhaire | and very interesting |
| 00:36.47 | Kaso | with music theres alot of "you can totally hear the difference" type people who buy gold plated $50/yard cabling and feel a need to justifiy their money i think |
| 00:36.49 | zenzelezz | aren't most of them some take on binary trees? |
| 00:37.06 | Iriel | Bah, $50/yard is the cheap stuff 8-) |
| 00:37.10 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: yes, directly |
| 00:37.15 | cladhaire | in some way |
| 00:37.22 | cladhaire | huffman coding is the easiest and most straightforward |
| 00:37.27 | cladhaire | and the prefix-free nature is really cool |
| 00:37.31 | Iriel | (And no, i'm not one of those people, I just shop at a place that occasionally caters to them, and shudder at some of the hijinks they get up to) |
| 00:37.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | OiNK has a lot of those types on it |
| 00:37.56 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 00:38.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | "i refuse to download this until you reencode it in FLAC *crosses arms* |
| 00:39.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | kaso, the rar should be done in about 3 minutes, uploading to megaupload |
| 00:39.49 | Kaso | hokay |
| 00:42.05 | cladhaire | yay for not having shitty gear anymore. |
| 00:42.14 | cladhaire | i don't break 1k +dmg tho, YET |
| 00:42.24 | cladhaire | mind flaying for 700+ a tick is kinda crazy tho |
| 00:42.31 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 00:42.34 | JoshBorke | link to gear claddy waddy |
| 00:42.51 | zenzelezz | I'm still excited about the Revenge damage boost... it now crits for more than my (tanking) Heroic Strike |
| 00:45.05 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: sagart on stormrage |
| 00:45.30 | Mr_Rabies | Kaso: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YJAJJCES |
| 00:46.10 | JoshBorke | you're in your healing gear :-P |
| 00:47.50 | cladhaire | lolz. |
| 00:48.02 | cladhaire | well I'm at mag, so i can't camp now |
| 00:48.03 | cladhaire | =) |
| 00:48.17 | cladhaire | I roll around 910 with no buffs right now, afaik |
| 00:48.20 | cladhaire | only green gems |
| 00:48.42 | cladhaire | i really need epic bracers |
| 00:48.43 | cladhaire | heh |
| 00:49.13 | JoshBorke | i hate you :-P |
| 00:49.21 | JoshBorke | full shadoweave? |
| 00:49.28 | cladhaire | and 1/2 spellstrike |
| 00:49.33 | cladhaire | plus many fun epix. |
| 00:49.39 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't run all 3 :O |
| 00:49.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | just lazy on deleting them usually |
| 00:50.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with visor and fluidframes |
| 00:50.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i noticed that after rarring |
| 00:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll disable an addon and it'll be a good few weeks until i finally delete it |
| 00:51.06 | JoshBorke | bah on you clad. |
| 00:52.05 | cladhaire | why? |
| 00:52.45 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: because you have better gear than me :-P |
| 00:53.18 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 00:53.20 | cladhaire | i play more than i mod |
| 00:53.22 | cladhaire | sadly righ tnow |
| 00:53.24 | cladhaire | i'm enjoying my pewpew |
| 00:53.26 | cladhaire | heh |
| 00:54.42 | Kaso | Mr_Rabies2, even with all this enabled trinketmenu is working fine |
| 00:54.55 | Kaso | Im not sure what to reccomend, try with a fresh WTF maybe.. |
| 00:55.13 | zenzelezz | damnit Kaso, I was just about to make a delete your WTF folder joke :-( |
| 00:55.18 | Kaso | haha |
| 00:55.24 | Kaso | but im serious this time! |
| 00:55.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_O |
| 00:56.17 | JoshBorke | how'd last week go with rewriting things? |
| 00:56.27 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: that to me? |
| 00:56.33 | JoshBorke | YES |
| 00:56.35 | zenzelezz | we rewrote history |
| 00:56.36 | JoshBorke | oops |
| 00:56.41 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:56.45 | cladhaire | LH is coming well |
| 00:56.47 | cladhaire | clique is stalled |
| 00:56.49 | cladhaire | and still works fine |
| 00:56.53 | cladhaire | praid needs the love atm |
| 00:56.58 | cladhaire | it'll hopefully get it this week |
| 00:57.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | um |
| 00:57.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | now it's working for me kaso |
| 00:57.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 00:57.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtf |
| 00:57.33 | Kaso | interesting |
| 00:57.43 | Kaso | did you back up your WTF before you nuked it? |
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| 00:57.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't nuke it |
| 00:58.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what makes it even more interesting |
| 00:58.09 | Kaso | what changed then? |
| 00:58.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 00:58.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | it wasn't working, so i installed standalonelibs and then reinstalled all addons without externals... then realized it was still broken |
| 00:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was before rarring it |
| 00:59.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i uninstalled standalonelibs and reinstalled with externals |
| 00:59.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtf indeed |
| 01:00.02 | Kaso | i guess its just "One of those things"(tm) |
| 01:00.11 | Kaso | shame i was quite curious as to the cause :< |
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| 01:05.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'm about to throw a wrench into the gears like i love doing just after i fix something |
| 01:07.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | possibly could have been ckknight ninjaing in a change |
| 01:07.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 01:09.31 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
| 01:09.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | something managed to fix my problem with trinketmenu |
| 01:10.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if it was someone ninjaing in a fix to one of their addons while i reupdated or a lib update or what |
| 01:10.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | possibly the work of a sorceror |
| 01:13.41 | Kaso | Im sticking with my "One of those things"(tm) diagnosis |
| 01:14.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah wtf |
| 01:14.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | also my cooldowncount acting up seems to be fixed |
| 01:14.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 01:14.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait nevermind |
| 01:15.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like the frame's strata is below the cooldown piechart, or something, i dunno if that's a feature or a bug, oh well, it's minor enough to not worry about |
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| 02:15.16 | |Jelly| | I'm back and now with 72% more sexy! |
| 02:23.55 | Thunder_Child | well i have 77% more |
| 02:24.09 | Thunder_Child | ofc, i really never left... |
| 02:24.11 | |Jelly| | Woe is me. 8( |
| 02:27.22 | |Jelly| | I want an addon to sing the "You are a Pirate" song from Lazytown to me every time I get Yaaaarrrr!!! |
| 02:28.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had a similar idea for a while but have no idea how to actually get it to work |
| 02:28.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | when i shapeshift into a form it plays the Transformers noise |
| 02:28.41 | |Jelly| | I think I would cut my wrist like an hour after having it. |
| 02:28.45 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 02:28.57 | zenzelezz | why are pirates so cool? |
| 02:29.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | because 1) they have boats with cannons |
| 02:29.10 | zenzelezz | because they just ARRRRRR |
| 02:29.17 | zenzelezz | (cheesy) |
| 02:29.20 | |Jelly| | Oh man. |
| 02:29.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2) they're badass |
| 02:29.24 | |Jelly| | ...oh...man... |
| 02:29.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3) hooks are awesome |
| 02:29.42 | |Jelly| | Ninja > Pirate |
| 02:29.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i concur |
| 02:30.37 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine made one that made sounds |
| 02:31.02 | |Jelly| | I was going to just try to like hack Soundtrack or something. |
| 02:31.05 | Thunder_Child | just have it pickup yarrs in chat |
| 02:33.03 | cladhaire | In Magtheridon |
| 02:33.22 | cladhaire | Does a shadow priests silence interrupt the heal? |
| 02:34.39 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 02:34.57 | cladhaire | really? |
| 02:35.07 | cladhaire | that'sborked. |
| 02:35.07 | Kaydeethree | silence is not an interrupt, they can't be silenced. just countered |
| 02:35.19 | |Jelly| | Kaydeethree! <3 I wanted to talk to you earlier! Ask a question, actually. |
| 02:35.28 | Kaydeethree | I use fedora 7 |
| 02:35.36 | Kaydeethree | ubuntu's king for ease-of-use |
| 02:35.41 | |Jelly| | *slanty eyes* You ignored me! |
| 02:35.49 | Kaydeethree | I was afk |
| 02:35.55 | |Jelly| | ...or you read logs. rofl |
| 02:36.04 | |Jelly| | So for starters, Ubuntu? |
| 02:36.11 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 02:37.17 | |Jelly| | Rock on. Thanks 8) |
| 02:37.31 | |Jelly| | *wonders off to break the laptop* |
| 02:38.25 | zenzelezz | I remember when back when I wanted to try "real UNIX", and was told the closest I would really come these days was BSD or Slackware |
| 02:38.31 | zenzelezz | -when |
| 02:39.12 | |Jelly| | I don't remember ever wanting to try "real UNIX" because well, yeah... |
| 02:39.35 | zenzelezz | I'm peculiar |
| 02:44.14 | JoshBorke | purl, curse clad |
| 02:44.25 | purl | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, clad ! |
| 02:44.31 | JoshBorke | oh i hate you clad |
| 02:44.36 | clad|sleep | why now? |
| 02:44.44 | JoshBorke | purple gloves |
| 02:44.47 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 02:44.50 | clad|sleep | purple everything |
| 02:44.52 | clad|sleep | hehe |
| 02:44.52 | JoshBorke | and belt |
| 02:44.57 | clad|sleep | i had the Naztherim Mindblade |
| 02:44.59 | JoshBorke | and pants |
| 02:45.00 | clad|sleep | but my guild effed upi |
| 02:45.07 | clad|sleep | and they gave it to the mage |
| 02:45.07 | JoshBorke | AND RINGS! |
| 02:45.09 | clad|sleep | BULLSHIT says i |
| 02:45.15 | clad|sleep | JoshBorke: uhh.. lrn2kharazan? |
| 02:45.19 | clad|sleep | lrn2gruul |
| 02:45.23 | JoshBorke | sorry, my guild sucks |
| 02:45.30 | JoshBorke | prince down for the first time last week |
| 02:45.35 | JoshBorke | maulgar is still alive |
| 02:46.08 | zenzelezz | my mind is still scarred from our first night of Maulgar attempts |
| 02:46.49 | zenzelezz | three hours+ standing by a wall with his crotch right in front of my character... wherever I turned the camera I saw some icky part of him |
| 02:47.01 | zenzelezz | sometimes I wish I was a caster |
| 02:47.19 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:48.34 | Kaydeethree | there was an epic thread in R&D about that |
| 02:48.39 | Kaydeethree | the OP called it 'tiny' |
| 03:00.34 | *** join/#wowi-lounge subbawt (n=subbawt@65.89.109.213) |
| 03:01.20 | |Jelly| | So I have kind of an embarrassing question to ask... |
| 03:01.33 | JoshBorke | geebus, nihilium is rocking BT |
| 03:01.35 | zenzelezz | don't worry, it happens to everyone once in a while |
| 03:01.46 | |Jelly| | I wraped up my UI and WTF folders and uploaded them for friends on Curse but I also posted the link on the UI forums, right? |
| 03:01.58 | |Jelly| | Well...Curse is saying that 119 people have downloaded it |
| 03:02.19 | |Jelly| | ...but I was ***STUPID*** and forgot to remove my account name from the Config file in the WTF folder. |
| 03:02.22 | |Jelly| | ...what to do? |
| 03:02.39 | |Jelly| | I mean, is BruteForcing WoW really possible? |
| 03:02.47 | subbawt | as long as you don't have a retarded password |
| 03:02.50 | |Jelly| | Or am I just paranoid about nothing? |
| 03:02.51 | subbawt | it doesn't really matter |
| 03:03.08 | |Jelly| | abc123! lol no |
| 03:03.21 | |Jelly| | but I suppose in light of this, I outta make it a bit harder, eh? |
| 03:03.27 | subbawt | it's easy enough to guess someone's account name most of the time anyways |
| 03:03.54 | |Jelly| | Eh. Mine was from an old job : / |
| 03:04.12 | |Jelly| | So for all intents and purposes, I should be fine? |
| 03:04.14 | Arrowmaster | you should probably also reupload it without the account name still in it |
| 03:04.43 | |Jelly| | I'm working on that currently...just wondering about the apparent 119 people that have already downloaded it (minus the three that I know personally) |
| 03:04.53 | subbawt | Which one makes loading times slow for ace mods: With Externals or without? |
| 03:05.24 | JoshBorke | with externals |
| 03:06.19 | subbawt | i reformatted and i'm redoing my UI |
| 03:06.22 | subbawt | this is going to be fun |
| 03:06.50 | subbawt | hello 50 unconfigured mods! |
| 03:07.26 | JoshBorke | <3 bongos + clique |
| 03:07.32 | |Jelly| | That just gives me a headache sometime. |
| 03:07.34 | |Jelly| | I don't know where to start : / |
| 03:08.01 | |Jelly| | I'm waiting for Shirik to (apparently) fix RDX before I give Clique a go. |
| 03:08.06 | Shirik | dude |
| 03:08.09 | subbawt | isn't there some addon updater that works for non ace mods too? |
| 03:08.11 | Shirik | 3 hunter pieces just dropped |
| 03:08.12 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 03:08.13 | Shirik | off maulgar |
| 03:08.15 | Shirik | is awesome |
| 03:08.19 | JoshBorke | ~wuu |
| 03:08.32 | purl | hmm... wuu is a WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automagically from WoWAce, WoWI, Cosmos, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 03:08.32 | subbawt | we get double druid/priest/war tokens off every boss |
| 03:08.32 | subbawt | it's fun |
| 03:08.33 | JoshBorke | |Jelly|: i thought Shirik made RDX default to Clique? |
| 03:08.45 | Shirik | not in the release version |
| 03:08.47 | Shirik | in SVN version |
| 03:08.48 | |Jelly| | Perfect time to chime in, Shirik and grats on...stuff <3 |
| 03:08.54 | Shirik | I wanted the helm though :( |
| 03:08.56 | Shirik | that helm is sick |
| 03:09.04 | Shirik | I got T4 shoulders though |
| 03:09.11 | |Jelly| | woot! |
| 03:09.17 | Shirik | and now to gruul recon |
| 03:09.22 | Shirik | (first maulgar kill btw, so we're happy ^^) |
| 03:09.32 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 03:09.36 | zenzelezz | SS or it didn't happen |
| 03:09.38 | |Jelly| | Grats! |
| 03:09.41 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 03:09.41 | Shirik | we have SS :P |
| 03:09.46 | Shirik | always have SS |
| 03:09.52 | zenzelezz | clearly photoshopped |
| 03:10.01 | JoshBorke | my guild can't handle even getting in a screenshot properly |
| 03:10.15 | subbawt | i cleaned the dust out of my laptop today, and i definitely notice the difference |
| 03:10.19 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.28 | Shirik | btw |
| 03:10.31 | Shirik | 160 MP/5 while casting |
| 03:10.33 | Shirik | on a hunter |
| 03:10.34 | Shirik | is awesome |
| 03:10.35 | Shirik | just fyi |
| 03:10.45 | Shirik | 10 minute fight I was still at 25% mana |
| 03:10.49 | Shirik | and near top of healing charts |
| 03:10.51 | Shirik | damage* |
| 03:11.03 | zenzelezz | hunters these days, they even outheal priests |
| 03:11.06 | JoshBorke | 160mana/5, geebus |
| 03:11.55 | zenzelezz | a friend of mine that played a paladin was convinced they wouldn't be able to heal anything post 2.1, but I've not seen them have any trouble in heroics yet |
| 03:12.19 | zenzelezz | then again, I suspect this guy wasn't the brightest paladin around |
| 03:13.03 | JoshBorke | meh, they can still heal, just got shafted a little bit |
| 03:13.07 | |Jelly| | "And then enjoy your keylogger-free, virus-free gaming experience on your Mac!" <3 statements like that |
| 03:13.10 | JoshBorke | i still don't understand the illumination nerf, but oh well |
| 03:13.58 | zenzelezz | I usually only skim the non-warrior changes, since I don't quite know how to play anything else |
| 03:14.36 | subbawt | paladins had too much longevity compared to the other healing classes |
| 03:14.48 | JoshBorke | yes, yes they did |
| 03:15.37 | subbawt | then what do you mean you don't understand? :P |
| 03:15.44 | |Jelly| | Reason Number 1 Jelly is Holy: Got tired of being called a battery |
| 03:16.00 | JoshBorke | their heals weren't THAT great |
| 03:16.03 | Shirik | and |
| 03:16.08 | Shirik | 3 guys |
| 03:16.10 | Shirik | that hit me for 8k |
| 03:16.15 | Shirik | all hit me at the same time |
| 03:16.16 | Shirik | just now |
| 03:16.22 | |Jelly| | oww |
| 03:16.32 | JoshBorke | well, at lesat you went fighting |
| 03:16.43 | JoshBorke | btw, <3 dragging mobs on top of FD'd hunters during a wipe |
| 03:16.52 | Shirik | I don't feign death except to wipe aggro |
| 03:17.01 | |Jelly| | And vanished rogues AND invis mages! |
| 03:17.02 | Shirik | if a hunter FD's in my raid while fighting is still going on |
| 03:17.05 | Shirik | I will kick him from a raid |
| 03:19.38 | Tain | Someone kicked me from a raid once. |
| 03:19.46 | Tain | The fallout lasted months. |
| 03:20.07 | Tain | I did not go gently into that good night. |
| 03:21.02 | Shirik | oh snap |
| 03:21.03 | zenzelezz | why did they kick you? |
| 03:21.05 | Shirik | I have leader of the pack now |
| 03:21.11 | Shirik | 26% crit rate with 2400 |
| 03:21.12 | Shirik | ftw |
| 03:21.20 | Shirik | (2400 AP) |
| 03:21.43 | Tain | He kicked me because I did not accept a rez into the middle of combat in ZG after being res'd twice previously in the middle of combat and instantly killed during that raid. |
| 03:26.58 | Shirik | wb Cairenn |
| 03:27.03 | Cairenn | danke |
| 03:28.03 | Tain | Hi Cairenn. Hey what did you think of Pirates? You went right? |
| 03:28.09 | Cairenn | I enjoyed it |
| 03:28.42 | Cairenn | The first was still the best, it's a toss up which of the 2nd and 3rd are next, imo |
| 03:28.47 | Tain | I actually saw it for the second time today. A friend of mine hadn't seen it and kept complaining about no one to go with so I went again. |
| 03:29.09 | Tain | I liked it a lot better than the second. Not as good as the first, but I thought it was much better than the second one. |
| 03:29.34 | Cairenn | I think I liked the 3rd better than the 2nd, but there is the one fight scene in the 2nd that is just too damn funny for words |
| 03:29.44 | Cairenn | my daughter liked the 2nd better |
| 03:30.06 | Tain | If its the fight scene in the wheel then it just went on too long. |
| 03:30.16 | Cairenn | but it was still funny |
| 03:30.27 | Cairenn | and yes, that was the scene I was referring to |
| 03:30.31 | Cairenn | hamster ball! |
| 03:31.38 | Tain | It was funny. :) I just found myself saying... ok... it's been like ten minutes now |
| 03:32.20 | Cairenn | I think part of why I liked the 3rd better than the 2nd is because Jack wasn't quite as ... prancy (for lack of better word) ... in the 3rd |
| 03:32.24 | Tain | Actually the thing I didn't like about the second one was that I felt like Jack's character was off. |
| 03:32.27 | Tain | haha :D |
| 03:32.28 | Cairenn | he really did "prance" in the 2nd |
| 03:33.27 | Tain | I did like Keith Richards part though, I still think it was a great little part for him. |
| 03:33.39 | Cairenn | I've never been a particular fan of his before this, but the boy is just plain TASTY! in Pirates |
| 03:33.42 | Cairenn | yeah, that was good |
| 03:33.51 | Shirik | first shot on gruul |
| 03:33.52 | Shirik | 75% |
| 03:33.55 | Shirik | I think that's pretty good |
| 03:33.56 | Shirik | imho |
| 03:33.56 | Cairenn | not bad |
| 03:34.12 | Shirik | considering noone had any clue what the hell they were doing |
| 03:34.54 | Tain | That's the best way to go into it, Shirik :) |
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| 03:42.34 | Tem | Shirik, gruul is an annoyingly simple fight |
| 03:42.43 | Shirik | seems so :) |
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| 03:49.50 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.40 | Kirkburn|afk | When I went to see Pirates, they added an intermission 2 hours in :/ |
| 03:51.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Lots of swearing and blinding ensued |
| 03:51.22 | |Jelly| | wtf... lol |
| 03:51.56 | Thrae | "Please take this time to enjoy our concession stand. Otherwise we'll go bankrupt." |
| 03:54.01 | Tain | What? |
| 03:54.06 | Tain | I'd riot. |
| 03:54.17 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108213199&sid=1 Can someone help me out here? My answer would be a little bit of everything but that's not really a feasible answer to this question. |
| 03:55.05 | |Jelly| | (aside from the HDD, that is) |
| 03:55.45 | JoshBorke | all done |
| 03:56.01 | |Jelly| | Thanks. |
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| 03:59.55 | Shirik | I now look like a fel reaver |
| 04:01.41 | zenzelezz | good, now go stomp on some noobs |
| 04:02.30 | Shirik | nah, I will now go eat :P /nick Shirik |
| 04:04.14 | Shirik|AFK | jelly needs to calm a bit |
| 04:04.16 | Shirik|AFK | she is turning into me :( |
| 04:04.46 | |Jelly| | What? |
| 04:04.56 | Shirik|AFK | "So. For #%%#'s sake, proceed to Step 2." |
| 04:05.20 | |Jelly| | Well. I did spell it out pretty simply. |
| 04:05.32 | |Jelly| | Granted, I had to add 2a in there a little later but really... |
| 04:05.35 | Shirik|AFK | you are becoming frustrated with the stupidity of users |
| 04:05.40 | Shirik|AFK | i.e., you are turning into me |
| 04:05.50 | |Jelly| | Becoming? |
| 04:06.13 | |Jelly| | Haven't you noticed me pretty much being a complete asshole to 99% of the people who ask stupid questions lately? lol |
| 04:06.22 | |Jelly| | lately = past like three months |
| 04:06.29 | |Jelly| | Ok so yeah...I'm turning into you. |
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| 04:06.34 | Thunder_Child | pfft, i'm an asshole to everyone |
| 04:06.38 | |Jelly| | It's a slow evolution. |
| 04:06.47 | Thunder_Child | stupid people just get extra attention |
| 04:06.56 | |Jelly| | Agreed. |
| 04:07.04 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: Watch out. Some of the developers here, uh, swing the other way, if you know what I mean. |
| 04:07.12 | Shirik|AFK | anyway |
| 04:07.12 | Shirik|AFK | food!! |
| 04:07.23 | |Jelly| | Don't lie to us, Shirik! |
| 04:07.29 | Thrae | I mean sheesh, who wants to be the catcher anyway. |
| 04:07.34 | Thunder_Child | wrong kind of asshole Thrae, but thanks for looking out.... |
| 04:07.38 | |Jelly| | You don't eat. Or sleep for that matter. You're a robot. |
| 04:07.43 | |Jelly| | Much like Bob Barker... |
| 04:08.08 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 04:08.17 | Thunder_Child | so, i want to try it out |
| 04:08.25 | Thunder_Child | s/so/do/ |
| 04:09.24 | Thrae | Install an Eliza script. "I see you're having trouble initializing your addon through a metatable index. How does that make you feel?" |
| 04:10.49 | Thrae | "I see you want to kill me personally, as well as the bastard that installed me. You seem to be projecting a lot here. Let's get back on topic." |
| 04:14.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, new SimCity sequel is on its way |
| 04:14.29 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 04:14.40 | zenzelezz | SimCity 5999 Super-Duper Plus Edition? |
| 04:16.22 | Thrae | SimCity - Birth of a Democracy. Build up your city anew out of the leftover ashes from a foreign nation's occupation. |
| 04:16.27 | Thunder_Child | no one says you have to play it |
| 04:16.34 | zenzelezz | Thrae: hah |
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| 04:35.25 | Shirik | night Cairenn|afk |
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| 04:52.54 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100340669&sid=1 ROFL |
| 04:53.10 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: ping... have you tried WoW 2.1.0 with Wine 0.9.38? I'm looking at some of the changelog, and I suspect the 'needs rewrite' that Transgaming mentioned in their dirty hack, got written. Curious if 0.9.38 works for you/anyone else |
| 04:54.40 | Bleeter | |Jelly|: damn, locked legendary thread |
| 04:57.59 | |Jelly| | i lol'd pretty hard |
| 04:58.18 | Bleeter | what I'm currently fdinding amusing, is the blue's direction to the 'how to stay in game' guide thing |
| 04:58.26 | Bleeter | I followed the link |
| 04:58.27 | Bleeter | Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005' |
| 04:58.27 | Bleeter | Unrecognized database format 'c:\supportadb\SupportUS-ADB.mdb'. |
| 04:58.28 | Bleeter | /support/includes/inc_solution.asp, line 62 |
| 04:58.35 | Bleeter | I lol'd moar |
| 04:58.54 | Shirik | eew |
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| 04:58.58 | Shirik | ee..eeewww..... |
| 04:59.02 | Bleeter | http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/?id=aDisplay02046p |
| 04:59.24 | |Jelly| | i had to stop reading...apparently i need to heal and shit : / |
| 04:59.50 | Shirik | priests still heal? |
| 05:00.18 | Shirik | I thought they were all mana batteries |
| 05:00.18 | |Jelly| | *tear* That hurt, Shirik., |
| 05:00.18 | Shirik | I heal :D |
| 05:00.23 | |Jelly| | You can't heal this wound! |
| 05:00.25 | Shirik | just it seems that every priest these days is shadow anymore :( |
| 05:00.30 | Shirik | it's depressing |
| 05:00.37 | |Jelly| | I was....until I wanted to group |
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| 05:02.17 | |Jelly| | bleh...i still need to do NECB : / |
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| 05:23.32 | Shirik | night all |
| 05:23.46 | |Jelly| | Night |
| 05:32.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 05:32.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot how bad flight paths are on azeroth |
| 05:33.27 | zenzelezz | where are you flying from/to? |
| 05:34.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | nethergarde->southshore |
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| 05:34.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtb flying mounts on azeroth |
| 05:34.53 | zenzelezz | hehe, go grab a drink or something ;) |
| 05:34.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 05:35.38 | Shirik|zZz | I love how people come to the defense of others when they get slammed for using private servers |
| 05:35.43 | Shirik|zZz | or changing character models |
| 05:36.03 | Shirik|zZz | somehow everyone knows what Warden does, and how it does it, and that character model changing is legal and undetectable |
| 05:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may or may not have done both |
| 05:36.39 | Shirik|zZz | whether or not you have done so is not my business, nor do I care, but what I /do/ care about is people going around telling others that something is legal, when it's not |
| 05:36.52 | Shirik|zZz | or that something is undetectable, when it's not |
| 05:36.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | legal in terms of the ToS...no |
| 05:37.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | undetectable, yes |
| 05:37.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of programs out there that watch warden like a hawk |
| 05:37.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and so far it's not checked model folders or realmlist.wtf, just RAM and process list |
| 05:37.58 | Shirik|zZz | I'm not surprised |
| 05:37.58 | Shadowed | But |
| 05:38.14 | Shadowed | Because of how Warden works, they can release a version that does without you noticing that quickly |
| 05:38.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not saying they won't put it in sometime |
| 05:38.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 05:38.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's how about 80% of botters using glider got hosed |
| 05:38.40 | Shadowed | Yea back in around December 06 |
| 05:38.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | a warden patch before he had the warden sniffer in |
| 05:38.47 | Shirik|zZz | imho they would be smart if they did something like what VAC does |
| 05:38.52 | Shadowed | VAC? |
| 05:38.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | valve anticheat |
| 05:38.58 | Shirik|zZz | Valve Anti-Cheat |
| 05:39.04 | Shirik|zZz | what they do is pretty slick |
| 05:39.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | for half-life based games |
| 05:39.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and hl2, |
| 05:39.15 | Shadowed | oh that |
| 05:39.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | warden's pretty slick too |
| 05:39.28 | Shirik|zZz | they sneak in a detection script for hacks, but don't actually accept reports for them for the first two weeks or so |
| 05:39.34 | Shirik|zZz | then, after about 2 weeks, VAC reports them |
| 05:39.36 | Shadowed | oh that yea |
| 05:39.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | warden sneaks in detection scripts and reports for them right away |
| 05:39.51 | Shirik|zZz | which allows a lot more people to get caught when they don't even expect it |
| 05:40.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | about to cause havoc in tarren mill |
| 05:40.05 | Shirik|zZz | the reasoning behind it is because nobody will go out and say "this is getting caught" |
| 05:40.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 05:40.23 | subbawt | i wonder if i can get in trouble for sending gold to chinese farmers |
| 05:40.33 | Shirik|zZz | everyone getting "detected" by VAC actually just queues it |
| 05:40.38 | norgs | subbawt: yes, you can |
| 05:40.40 | Shirik|zZz | and then sends it when the report time comes |
| 05:40.52 | Shadowed | The thing is though, a cheat on WoW will effect the server more then a cheat on HL2 |
| 05:40.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | however, the wow launcher tells you if warden detects anything without sending a report |
| 05:40.58 | Shadowed | s/cheat/hack/ |
| 05:40.58 | Shirik|zZz | this is very true |
| 05:41.20 | subbawt | norgs: really? |
| 05:41.25 | norgs | of course |
| 05:41.34 | Shirik|zZz | If it's anything like what I did for RF |
| 05:41.36 | Shadowed | Theres a big difference between one game being at a disadvantage and the econ being screwed with because someones able to farm 50 primals in24 hours |
| 05:41.40 | Shirik|zZz | I just printed out 20-page logs of transactions with gold farmers |
| 05:41.52 | Shirik|zZz | everyone that sent them gold (at least in large amounts) I assumed to be associated |
| 05:41.55 | norgs | if they get caught, what do you think they do? work out where the money came from, of course. |
| 05:42.15 | Shadowed | Depends on what they do to check about the money |
| 05:42.43 | Shadowed | A guy who sends 100g probably wont be noticed if he wasn't doing it often or if it's an old account with no priors |
| 05:42.48 | subbawt | and they will obviously assume that the level 70 priest in a raiding guild who sent the level 35 mage 37 gold is an accomplice in a huge chinese farming ring? |
| 05:42.55 | subbawt | :X |
| 05:43.03 | Shirik|zZz | well, tbh, I didn't care to check how often it was done, etc. |
| 05:43.12 | Shirik|zZz | I just assumed, because that's really all you can do |
| 05:43.16 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 05:43.20 | Shadowed | just depends on how much they care |
| 05:43.21 | Shirik|zZz | You can't go checking the other 11 months where there were no other transactions |
| 05:43.37 | Shirik|zZz | granted, in RF |
| 05:43.39 | Shirik|zZz | we had about 12 GMs |
| 05:43.48 | Shirik|zZz | whereas WoW has something along that times hundreds |
| 05:43.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | any transaction above... i think....900...or maybe it's 9000g is pretty much automatically flagged |
| 05:44.08 | Shirik|zZz | and our logs system sucked |
| 05:44.10 | Shirik|zZz | beyond all belief |
| 05:44.32 | subbawt | we used to have a token chinese farmer in our guild |
| 05:44.40 | subbawt | and he gets banned like once a month |
| 05:44.42 | subbawt | and creates a new account |
| 05:44.44 | Shirik|zZz | lol |
| 05:44.45 | Shadowed | How long ago was RF, isn't that like 5-6+ years |
| 05:44.51 | Shirik|zZz | nah, more like... 2 |
| 05:44.54 | Shirik|zZz | not many people played |
| 05:44.56 | Shadowed | though it was older |
| 05:44.59 | Shirik|zZz | which made things a lot easier |
| 05:45.01 | Shirik|zZz | well... in Korea |
| 05:45.03 | Shirik|zZz | it was a lot older |
| 05:45.07 | subbawt | what is RF? |
| 05:45.08 | Shirik|zZz | it just came to US/UK |
| 05:45.10 | Shirik|zZz | about 2 years ago |
| 05:45.12 | zenzelezz | what happened to RF, is it still around? |
| 05:45.18 | Shirik|zZz | I would assume so |
| 05:45.26 | Shirik|zZz | but the population diminished so much that you know |
| 05:45.29 | zenzelezz | I remember getting some spam about it... Codemasters, isn't it? |
| 05:45.32 | Shirik|zZz | it's not really even worth playing that much anymore |
| 05:45.32 | Shirik|zZz | yup |
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| 05:45.40 | Shirik|zZz | though I was with AD, not Codemasters |
| 05:45.46 | Shirik|zZz | they hired AD to GM it |
| 05:45.48 | VoiDRaider | Howdy all :) |
| 05:45.52 | Shirik|zZz | heya |
| 05:45.52 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 05:45.55 | zenzelezz | AD? |
| 05:46.01 | Shirik|zZz | Alchemic Dream |
| 05:46.07 | Shirik|zZz | http://www.alchemicdream.net |
| 05:46.27 | Shirik|zZz | but yeah, the real issue with the game was |
| 05:46.31 | Shirik|zZz | the contract CM got sucked |
| 05:46.42 | Shirik|zZz | And CCR (the company that actually made the game) didn't have to do crap to support it |
| 05:46.56 | Shirik|zZz | and CM can't code anything into it |
| 05:46.57 | Shirik|zZz | meaning the bugs that made it to release stayed there |
| 05:46.58 | Shirik|zZz | and updates came so slow |
| 05:47.05 | Shirik|zZz | it eventually just made the player population quit |
| 05:47.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm slaughtering tarren mill |
| 05:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | a level 30 rogue attacked me while i was killing every npc there |
| 05:47.19 | Shirik|zZz | They started with 5 servers, and it got so bad it became compressed to 1 |
| 05:47.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | poor guy :( |
| 05:47.45 | Shirik|zZz | I guess I should go to sleep :/ |
| 05:47.49 | Shirik|zZz | I'm rambling |
| 05:47.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do the same thing |
| 05:47.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 05:48.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ramble all the time |
| 05:48.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | but moreso when i'm tired |
| 05:48.44 | Shirik|zZz | * Key bindings and modified clicks may optionally specify LSHIFT, RSHIFT, LCTRL, RCTRL, LALT, RALT instead of the normal SHIFT, CTRL, ALT modifiers. The default UI will not set L/R modifiers and will continue to use the normal (either side) modifiers. |
| 05:48.45 | Shirik|zZz | fun |
| 05:49.00 | Shirik|zZz | Iriel are you here? |
| 05:52.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 05:52.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | a 70 undead warrior attacked me while i was eating TM |
| 05:52.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | killed him twice before a guard killed me when i went to heal |
| 05:55.21 | Shirik|zZz | <3 CMs: |
| 05:55.24 | Shirik|zZz | I'm curious, Toaste -- if this was merely a grave misunderstanding, can you perhaps explain how it is that your paladin not only doesn't possess the ability to create the Battlecast Pants, but in fact hasn't learned Tailoring at all? That seems particularly odd to me, given the circumstances, especially since you claim that you were unexpectedly disconnected while on your way to purchase the Primal Nether (a Bind-on-Pickup item) need |
| 05:55.37 | zenzelezz | ... item) nee |
| 05:55.45 | Shirik|zZz | (a Bind-on-Pickup item) needed to create the pants. Could you possibly be... misremembering the situation as you've described it? I eagerly anticipate your clarification. :) |
| 05:55.56 | |Jelly| | OWNT! |
| 05:56.10 | Shirik|zZz | this guy got banned for basically scamming a trade |
| 05:56.20 | Shirik|zZz | saying he would make something, taking the mats, and then "getting disconnected" |
| 05:56.28 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 05:56.46 | zenzelezz | link? |
| 05:56.48 | |Jelly| | Pfft. I linked that here. 8P |
| 05:57.07 | Shirik|zZz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108202122&sid=1 |
| 05:57.10 | Shirik|zZz | it was in someone's sig |
| 05:57.13 | Shirik|zZz | under "hall of stupid" |
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| 05:58.15 | Shirik|zZz | LOL! |
| 05:58.16 | Shirik|zZz | this is worse |
| 05:58.16 | |Jelly| | Well. That's where I got it too...but I linked it first! 8P |
| 05:58.16 | Shirik|zZz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100340669&sid=1 |
| 05:58.24 | Shirik|zZz | the other entry in hall of stupid |
| 05:58.44 | |Jelly| | "I bought gold...help me" |
| 05:59.44 | Shadowed | To be fair |
| 05:59.45 | Shadowed | the CM fails |
| 05:59.59 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 06:00.00 | Shadowed | Cause he could have been saving badges to go purchase the nether and was waiting for mats before using them |
| 06:00.17 | Shirik|zZz | .. |
| 06:00.24 | Shirik|zZz | the item he was offering to make is BoP iirc :P |
| 06:00.31 | Shirik|zZz | oh wait, no |
| 06:00.34 | Shirik|zZz | but he doesn't know tailoring |
| 06:00.37 | Shadowed | yea |
| 06:00.38 | Shadowed | but still |
| 06:00.52 | Shadowed | "Needing to purchase a nether" would be a valid claim because you can |
| 06:01.00 | VoiDRaider | What do you think about my new CastingBar interface I built ? http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot060407085727to9.jpg |
| 06:01.10 | Shirik|zZz | ugly. |
| 06:01.20 | Shirik|zZz | actually nice :) |
| 06:01.26 | Shirik|zZz | now that it is no longer interleaved |
| 06:01.43 | Shadowed | The top right icon list is rather ugly |
| 06:01.47 | Shirik|zZz | what's with all your empty buttons :P |
| 06:01.57 | Shadowed | but besides that it looks fine |
| 06:02.08 | VoiDRaider | What empty buttons haha :P |
| 06:02.14 | Shirik|zZz | action bar |
| 06:02.28 | VoiDRaider | Oh mate haha |
| 06:02.46 | VoiDRaider | I meant to the CastingBar++ interface not to my whole UI :P |
| 06:04.39 | VoiDRaider | And that's the layout I built for the addons http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot060407090127jt1.jpg |
| 06:04.43 | VoiDRaider | addon* |
| 06:05.09 | Shirik|zZz | it actually looks decent |
| 06:05.13 | Shirik|zZz | I might have to install it :P |
| 06:05.18 | VoiDRaider | :D |
| 06:05.42 | |Jelly| | Same. Looks like it might give eCB a run for it's moneh |
| 06:05.48 | VoiDRaider | I'm releasing it at friday, do I released my futureless version last week :D |
| 06:05.56 | Corrodias | so why DO you have so many blank spaces? are paladins really that simple? |
| 06:06.06 | VoiDRaider | It's not my main haha |
| 06:06.16 | Shirik|zZz | I might have to release a 10.2.3 version of RDX: ( |
| 06:06.21 | Shirik|zZz | 10.2.1 * |
| 06:06.23 | VoiDRaider | Haha :D |
| 06:06.29 | Shirik|zZz | I thought 10.2 was going to be final before v11 >.> |
| 06:06.44 | VoiDRaider | :P |
| 06:06.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i killed every civilian in tarren mill |
| 06:06.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was cathartic |
| 06:06.51 | Shirik|zZz | but I don't want to keep people waiting for bug fixes when I already have them fixed |
| 06:06.52 | Corrodias | paladins may BE that simple. i dunno. |
| 06:07.01 | Shirik|zZz | BE paladins are simple :P |
| 06:07.06 | |Jelly| | Pretty much... |
| 06:07.09 | Corrodias | try attacking southshore and see how far you get. jesus christ they have enough guards spawn on you. |
| 06:07.10 | Shirik|zZz | Mana tap, flash of light, flash of light, flash of light |
| 06:07.11 | VoiDRaider | Haha Arcane Torrent OP |
| 06:07.12 | Shirik|zZz | mana tap |
| 06:07.14 | Shirik|zZz | arcane torrent |
| 06:07.16 | |Jelly| | Especially if any of those are macros. lol |
| 06:07.16 | Shirik|zZz | flash of light |
| 06:07.28 | Shirik|zZz | BTW, BE priests are totally ftw |
| 06:07.37 | |Jelly| | I think I have fewer buttons on my paladin : / |
| 06:07.45 | Shirik|zZz | between arcane torrent, inner focus, consume magic, mana pots, clearcasting |
| 06:07.49 | Shirik|zZz | I never run out of mana :D |
| 06:07.50 | VoiDRaider | Last night I killed a level 42 priest and pala I never go OOM haha |
| 06:07.54 | Corrodias | my hunter is like "omg too many abilities" |
| 06:08.20 | VoiDRaider | Silence is awesome what can I say :P |
| 06:08.37 | VoiDRaider | Yeah my main is a Hunter :D |
| 06:09.12 | Corrodias | i had to make so many macros for that hunter |
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| 06:09.13 | Corrodias | his macro list is full |
| 06:09.13 | VoiDRaider | Hahah |
| 06:09.13 | Corrodias | most of them just "if holding alt, do this other thing instead" |
| 06:09.16 | VoiDRaider | Yeah there're a lot of things you can do :D |
| 06:09.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had guards hanging on me |
| 06:09.36 | Shirik|zZz | does anyone have any idea how many messages can be sent per second? |
| 06:09.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think at one point i had about 20 guards on me |
| 06:09.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | shirik: AL and i tested it and it seems like about 10 or so |
| 06:10.03 | Shirik|zZz | hm, that's better than I was thinking |
| 06:10.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | then it locks you out for about 10 |
| 06:10.14 | VoiDRaider | Haha :P |
| 06:10.21 | Shirik|zZz | actually no I guess I had it doing 8/sec |
| 06:10.23 | Shirik|zZz | hrm |
| 06:10.28 | Shirik|zZz | I need a way to compress my information |
| 06:10.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was in chat |
| 06:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | addon messages may be different |
| 06:10.41 | Shirik|zZz | I'm talking SendAddonMessage() so |
| 06:10.43 | Shirik|zZz | but I think it's the same |
| 06:10.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was on the ptr |
| 06:11.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if they're in your party the filter's turned off |
| 06:11.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | or friends list |
| 06:11.07 | Shirik|zZz | this is the only issue I'm having |
| 06:11.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | or you started a whisper with them |
| 06:11.13 | Shirik|zZz | after this, battle recorder will be easymode to finish |
| 06:11.45 | Corrodias | battle recorder? |
| 06:11.51 | Shirik|zZz | oh it's the sexx |
| 06:11.57 | Shadowed | Just make sure the prefix is something useful |
| 06:11.59 | Shadowed | or i'll hate you forever |
| 06:12.02 | Corrodias | I DOUBT THAT GOOD SIR |
| 06:12.04 | Shirik|zZz | addon message prefix? |
| 06:12.09 | Shadowed | yea |
| 06:12.12 | Shirik|zZz | I don't even use SendAddonMessage() anymore |
| 06:12.20 | Shirik|zZz | all of RDX's prefixes are RDX** |
| 06:12.31 | Shadowed | good I don't have to hate you then! |
| 06:12.35 | Shirik|zZz | We have RDX.EnqueueMessage() and about 90 different protocols |
| 06:12.37 | zenzelezz | RDXXX I bet |
| 06:12.38 | Shirik|zZz | screw prefixes |
| 06:13.16 | Shirik|zZz | prefixes are always RDX** and then the actual information is something like 32:19300#KE#data#PE#data#KE#data#!!$END$!! |
| 06:13.36 | Shirik|zZz | first number is protocol ID, second number is request ID, rest is data |
| 06:14.13 | Shirik|zZz | since all RDX modules use the same prefix, protocol ID is the way each module can determine what information it needs and not be confused with other modules |
| 06:14.53 | Shirik|zZz | but yeah the only issue I'm having is like |
| 06:15.03 | Shirik|zZz | per fight I'll probably have something like 300 events to send |
| 06:15.14 | Shirik|zZz | currently I'm looking at transmitting one event at a time, and each transmission is 2 lines |
| 06:15.27 | Shirik|zZz | I might have to compress it a bit something like 4 events per transmission |
| 06:15.36 | Shirik|zZz | because it is taking way too long to sync |
| 06:15.42 | Corrodias | i should say it would |
| 06:16.47 | Shirik|zZz | perhaps I can transmit mid-fight too |
| 06:16.47 | Shirik|zZz | but that could be a pain |
| 06:16.47 | Shirik|zZz | though I used to think parsing mid-fight was going to be a pain |
| 06:16.47 | Shirik|zZz | and I got that worked out |
| 06:16.55 | subbawt | i've always wanted to try RDX, but i'm too cheap to pay for it |
| 06:17.04 | Shirik|zZz | that's why you should use my version and not Veni's |
| 06:17.05 | |Jelly| | freh! |
| 06:17.10 | Corrodias | wrong rdx, brother |
| 06:17.17 | subbawt | what |
| 06:17.21 | Corrodias | you're thinking rdx-corporate. we're talking about rdx-awesome.l |
| 06:17.24 | |Jelly| | Shirik's is freh! |
| 06:17.26 | Shirik|zZz | http://rdx.emoemu.com/ |
| 06:17.40 | Shirik|zZz | we took RDX5, which he released to the public, and have been working on it ever since |
| 06:17.46 | Corrodias | one of them is supposed to change the name but neither of them has yet |
| 06:17.55 | Shirik|zZz | we probably should change the name |
| 06:18.00 | Shirik|zZz | but given that every file has a local RDX = RDX in it |
| 06:18.03 | Corrodias | having two addons of the same name is confusing and bad for your reputation |
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| 06:18.06 | subbawt | yeah really |
| 06:18.07 | Shirik|zZz | and every function is something like RDXM.blah() |
| 06:18.12 | Shirik|zZz | it would be a fricking pain |
| 06:18.30 | Corrodias | i recommend you undertake that pain. subbawt's initial reaction is probably common |
| 06:18.42 | Shirik|zZz | yeh I know :/ |
| 06:19.03 | Corrodias | i forget, what's rdx for, again? |
| 06:19.06 | Corrodias | what's it do? |
| 06:19.16 | Shirik|zZz | well I'm still working on RDXM_KitchenSink |
| 06:19.18 | Shirik|zZz | but... |
| 06:19.34 | zenzelezz | Extended Search And Replace, takes care of it in no time |
| 06:19.53 | subbawt | yes replaceall RDX with PIE |
| 06:20.06 | Shirik|zZz | at its very core, it's just raid frames. Click castable, configurable to what you want, (I have mine set so that it shows debuff icons, flashes red when low HP, flashes blue when magic debuffed, flashes green when disease debuffed) |
| 06:20.09 | Shirik|zZz | But it's much more than that |
| 06:20.37 | Shirik|zZz | it's modular which allows it a lot more, for example the extremely simple RDXM_Rand which handles loot distribution via random rolls |
| 06:21.02 | Corrodias | so to see if there's something i'd want, i have to go through this list of modules... |
| 06:21.03 | Shirik|zZz | or the more complex RDXM_Logistics which allows for raid leaders to check inventory for things such as soul shards, check player durability, check resists, defense, etc. |
| 06:21.11 | Shirik|zZz | well, actually I'm lazy so |
| 06:21.16 | Shirik|zZz | everything's just in the main pack |
| 06:21.16 | |Jelly| | Is there a mod that will automagically "/p HEY IDIOTS! I HAVE AGGRO, IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED!" ? |
| 06:21.23 | Shirik|zZz | lol |
| 06:21.54 | Shirik|zZz | it would be really easy to do |
| 06:21.54 | zenzelezz | all I really use raid mods for is the main tank windows |
| 06:21.54 | Corrodias | i see. i'm quite satisfied with my current raid frames and don't want to reduce my performance for something hidden |
| 06:21.54 | Shirik|zZz | zenzelezz: then you want RDXM_Assists |
| 06:21.54 | Corrodias | is this a reason not to use rdx? |
| 06:21.54 | Shirik|zZz | if you're satisfied with what you're using, why change? |
| 06:21.59 | Shirik|zZz | I'm not here to promote it, you just asked what it does :P |
| 06:22.08 | |Jelly| | I can't get no... |
| 06:22.08 | Shirik|zZz | technically the raid frames are a module too |
| 06:22.11 | Corrodias | because perfectraid is only raid frames. it doesn't include durability checks, for example. |
| 06:22.12 | Shirik|zZz | just most people use it |
| 06:22.13 | zenzelezz | Shirik|zZz: does it pick up CTRA's tanks? I'd be willing to change, but I doubt I could convince the guild |
| 06:22.15 | Shirik|zZz | RDXM_Windows |
| 06:22.27 | Shirik|zZz | zenzelezz: I could probably code that in; I've never used CTRA so I don't know how it works |
| 06:22.42 | Shirik|zZz | oh also it's got bossmods |
| 06:22.43 | Corrodias | oRA is supposed to be compatible with CTRA but there seem to be issues with the two not communicating MT lists in our guild |
| 06:22.45 | Shirik|zZz | like DBM |
| 06:22.56 | Shirik|zZz | RDXM_Kara, RDXM_Gruul, RDXM_MC, RDXM_BWL, etc. |
| 06:23.11 | Shirik|zZz | actually RDXM_BWL isn't released but it works, but I don't intend to release it, no point :P |
| 06:23.21 | |Jelly| | 8( |
| 06:23.26 | Shirik|zZz | who goes to BWL anymore? |
| 06:23.34 | zenzelezz | WTB RDXM_Maraudon |
| 06:23.38 | Shirik|zZz | lol. |
| 06:23.43 | |Jelly| | i never got to... |
| 06:23.45 | Corrodias | we did, with about 10 people i think |
| 06:23.48 | VoiDRaider | Haha well bored people mostly :P |
| 06:23.48 | Corrodias | didn't work out |
| 06:23.52 | Shirik|zZz | yeah we tried with 20 |
| 06:23.55 | Shirik|zZz | it went ok |
| 06:24.07 | Shirik|zZz | we got vael down and decided it wasn't worth the 20g it was costing us |
| 06:24.17 | Corrodias | we decided to go murder ZG and part of AQ20 instead |
| 06:24.18 | |Jelly| | I all but solo'd LBRS shadow! lol |
| 06:24.22 | Corrodias | 20g for what? |
| 06:24.26 | Shirik|zZz | repairs :P |
| 06:24.37 | zenzelezz | some guy on my server is taking a small number of people to ZG to farm for one of the mounts, offering 3k gold to every member if it drops |
| 06:24.39 | Corrodias | what's LBRS shadow? |
| 06:24.45 | Shirik|zZz | shadow priest |
| 06:24.51 | VoiDRaider | Soloing LBRS is great imo :P |
| 06:24.51 | Corrodias | oh |
| 06:24.53 | Shirik|zZz | "I all but solo'd LBRS as a shadow priesT" |
| 06:25.10 | Corrodias | ZG, yes... oddly enough, the tiger mount dropped for us. a hunter won it. |
| 06:25.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge amro (n=amro@82.101.184.149) |
| 06:25.20 | Corrodias | the one time we go AFTER the expansion and boom, there it is |
| 06:25.33 | |Jelly| | Why don't hunters FD to drop aggro? I'm really tired of chain healing this tard. |
| 06:25.37 | Corrodias | personally, i don't like the green on it |
| 06:26.00 | Corrodias | if he isn't managing his aggro, let him die and kick him if he doesn't change his ways or comprimises the group with his lack of life |
| 06:26.08 | Corrodias | a hunter should know better |
| 06:26.13 | |Jelly| | I have the highest death count : / |
| 06:26.28 | Corrodias | having to heal people too much, probably |
| 06:26.29 | |Jelly| | They're all "omg fade" and all I can do is laugh |
| 06:26.30 | VoiDRaider | Haha someone is not doing his job there :P |
| 06:26.34 | zenzelezz | any class with a complete aggro wipe has no excuse for having aggro ;-o |
| 06:26.58 | |Jelly| | 30sec cd on FD, right? |
| 06:27.02 | VoiDRaider | Yup |
| 06:27.10 | Corrodias | i believe hunters can be powerful, but if he doesn't understand HOW to be a hunter, he should seriously reconsider his class choice |
| 06:27.14 | |Jelly| | funny...my fade is 30 seconds too and it's not complere : / |
| 06:27.15 | zenzelezz | if you wipe aggro, and then pull it again within 30 seconds, you have other things to worry about |
| 06:27.30 | Corrodias | if you build up enough threat to overtake the tank in 30 seconds your tank must be dead |
| 06:27.40 | Corrodias | i mean after the battle has been going for a while |
| 06:27.44 | VoiDRaider | Still I burn all my mana in fights and manage to drop aggro by using FD and I'm doing massive damage :P |
| 06:27.46 | Shirik|zZz | 02:27:19 ‹Corrodias› i believe hunters can be powerful, but if he doesn't understand HOW to be a hunter, he should seriously reconsider his class choice |
| 06:27.47 | Shirik|zZz | I agree |
| 06:28.01 | Shirik|zZz | VoiDRaider: I have 160 MP/5 :P |
| 06:28.05 | Shirik|zZz | (while casting) |
| 06:28.07 | Corrodias | today i was in the zone, man. i was chain-grinding these nagas... |
| 06:28.13 | VoiDRaider | :D |
| 06:28.18 | Shirik|zZz | try burning all your mana with that |
| 06:28.24 | subbawt | link to armory :P |
| 06:28.36 | Shirik|zZz | I don't think I had AotV up when I logged out but let's see |
| 06:28.37 | Corrodias | mark, send pet, serpent sting, loot, repeat. to conserve mana (no aspect of the viper yet) i didn't use other abilities unless necessary |
| 06:29.08 | Corrodias | those nagas were my bitch |
| 06:29.17 | Shirik|zZz | yeah I had AotH when I logged out :( http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Eredar&n=Shirik |
| 06:29.19 | Shirik|zZz | but you can do the math |
| 06:29.42 | Shirik|zZz | 25% of intellect for AotV per 5 |
| 06:30.06 | Shirik|zZz | hm, that doesn't add up |
| 06:30.08 | Shirik|zZz | oh right, BoW |
| 06:30.16 | |Jelly| | hmm |
| 06:30.20 | Corrodias | bow? |
| 06:30.25 | Shirik|zZz | blessing of wisdom |
| 06:30.28 | VoiDRaider | BTW guys Armory works only in Firefox ? haha |
| 06:30.34 | |Jelly| | it shows 22mp5 for me |
| 06:30.43 | Shirik|zZz | ya, cause I didn't have aspect of the hawk up :( |
| 06:30.46 | Shirik|zZz | aspect of the viper * |
| 06:30.58 | |Jelly| | ahh |
| 06:31.00 | Corrodias | how many sets of gear does a hunter have to maintain? |
| 06:31.00 | Shirik|zZz | which gives me 66 MP/5 while casting, iirc |
| 06:31.01 | zenzelezz | VoiDRaider: works for me in IE |
| 06:31.04 | |Jelly| | sorry...don't play a hunter |
| 06:31.15 | Shirik|zZz | then add in Blessing of Wisdom and Arcane Intellect |
| 06:31.16 | MentalPower|Univ | stop pinging me already :P |
| 06:31.18 | |Jelly| | well...he's 31. lol |
| 06:31.21 | Corrodias | i'm not wise to how you play a hunter in a raid |
| 06:31.29 | VoiDRaider | Hmm I tried with few different computers and nothing the damage page won't load :P |
| 06:31.38 | Shirik|zZz | I actually only have one set of gear, with 2 extra pieces which have +15 nature resist |
| 06:31.39 | VoiDRaider | Only Firefox :D |
| 06:31.48 | Corrodias | druids "need" varying numbers, but for me i maintain 3 and still have the fourth sitting around |
| 06:31.58 | |Jelly| | Was at a friend's house today helping set up DSL... |
| 06:32.01 | Shirik|zZz | still |
| 06:32.02 | Corrodias | i hate bags so much. they're all too small. |
| 06:32.06 | Shirik|zZz | check out my RAP in the armory :D |
| 06:32.18 | Shirik|zZz | then tack on blessing of might, kings, and arcane intellect |
| 06:32.22 | Shirik|zZz | all of which give me more AP :D |
| 06:32.33 | zenzelezz | VoiDRaider: damage page? |
| 06:32.41 | Shirik|zZz | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Eredar&n=Shirik ? |
| 06:32.44 | Shirik|zZz | oh |
| 06:32.46 | |Jelly| | ...and we had to get T2 tech support because they couldn't help us without having IE |
| 06:32.47 | VoiDRaider | oops haha |
| 06:32.49 | VoiDRaider | damn* |
| 06:32.53 | |Jelly| | installed |
| 06:32.57 | |Jelly| | (sorry...healing and talking) |
| 06:33.05 | Shirik|zZz | hehe |
| 06:33.10 | Shirik|zZz | anyway.... it's 2:30 |
| 06:33.12 | VoiDRaider | :P |
| 06:33.13 | Shirik|zZz | I really should go to sleep |
| 06:33.16 | Shirik|zZz | though I'm not tired :( |
| 06:33.16 | |Jelly| | lies |
| 06:33.19 | |Jelly| | all lies |
| 06:33.20 | zenzelezz | VoiDRaider: well, it does load for me in IE when I try, but it's incredibly much slower than FF |
| 06:33.37 | VoiDRaider | Ah :P |
| 06:35.08 | Corrodias | so i think i decided on this for my build. for now. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbh0gxRwuAoZIh0Gzb |
| 06:35.15 | VoiDRaider | Well I use Firefox however few of my friends don't like it and they insist using IE :P |
| 06:35.42 | |Jelly| | Tell your friends they're broke. |
| 06:35.52 | Corrodias | how can they not like it? with the basic install it works nearly the same! |
| 06:36.08 | Shirik|zZz | Corrodias: For raiding? |
| 06:36.27 | Corrodias | all-purpose, including raiding should i ever get him to 70 |
| 06:36.34 | VoiDRaider | The PvP build I use is 5 / 21 / 35 |
| 06:36.36 | Shirik|zZz | it's pretty good then |
| 06:36.37 | Corrodias | well, not so much pvp. i don't like pvp. |
| 06:36.44 | Shirik|zZz | for strictly raiding it wouldn't be as effective as it can be |
| 06:36.53 | Shirik|zZz | but for all around that's pretty good |
| 06:36.55 | |Jelly| | Anyone know why NECB isn't showing all my renews? |
| 06:37.17 | Shirik|zZz | Corrodias: A lot of people are saying, these days, that BM is awesome for raiding, actually |
| 06:37.30 | Shirik|zZz | I completely disagree with them, of course, but I can't deny that it's got some nice dps |
| 06:38.04 | Corrodias | what i have to ask is how much -10% resist on traps helps against mobs |
| 06:38.10 | Shirik|zZz | enough to matter |
| 06:38.20 | Corrodias | wowwiki doesn't give me a good indication of what the normal resistance rate is |
| 06:38.22 | Shirik|zZz | a resist in an instance can be enough to wipe a non-well-geared hunter |
| 06:38.38 | zenzelezz | and you healers |
| 06:38.46 | Corrodias | a marksman hunter has scattershot to help in that situation, which a BM one won't |
| 06:38.49 | Shirik|zZz | You're probably looking at about a 5-10% resist rate on a l70 mob |
| 06:38.54 | Shirik|zZz | Corrodias: Right |
| 06:38.59 | Shirik|zZz | That's why I can get away without it |
| 06:39.03 | Shirik|zZz | plus my gear is pretty good |
| 06:39.06 | Shirik|zZz | (I think) |
| 06:39.22 | VoiDRaider | That's my build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=VVZVxbRVzZcG0htcMuAz |
| 06:39.26 | Shirik|zZz | a combination of scatter shot, concussive shot, imp wing clip and kiting can give me enough time to get a trap down |
| 06:39.43 | Corrodias | yeah. i'd have to rely on concussive shot and getting plenty of space |
| 06:40.03 | Corrodias | there's deterrance in there, if it's really important i not get hit and i have to wing clip |
| 06:40.24 | Shirik|zZz | with the -10% in there, you really don't have to worry about resists anymore |
| 06:40.24 | Shirik|zZz | I do |
| 06:40.46 | Corrodias | analyzing... |
| 06:40.53 | Corrodias | i smell pvp |
| 06:41.16 | Shirik|zZz | for those curious, here is where I will be going http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=VxZVVVRVzGestch0h |
| 06:41.25 | Shirik|zZz | respeccing tomorrow to touch up some things I don't like |
| 06:41.43 | Corrodias | touch up? |
| 06:41.48 | VoiDRaider | PvE tho ? |
| 06:41.50 | Corrodias | that's a completely different spec... wait a minute |
| 06:41.51 | Shirik|zZz | yeah I only moved around a few points |
| 06:41.58 | Corrodias | i clicked on the wrong links |
| 06:42.41 | Corrodias | i was looking at VoiDRaider's spec. total pvp spec. |
| 06:42.46 | VoiDRaider | Yeah |
| 06:42.51 | Shirik|zZz | mine is almost total pve |
| 06:42.55 | Shirik|zZz | though I do fine in pvp |
| 06:42.57 | Corrodias | build, i mean. i need to be careful about that term. |
| 06:42.57 | VoiDRaider | Yeah haha :P |
| 06:43.11 | Shirik|zZz | but it's aimed toward pve |
| 06:43.38 | Corrodias | okay, now for yours |
| 06:43.45 | |Jelly| | Starting to really dislike mages too. |
| 06:43.57 | VoiDRaider | Yeah different needs also MM does a lot more sustained damaged |
| 06:44.21 | Shirik|zZz | the general population believes that BM does more sustained damage |
| 06:44.31 | Shirik|zZz | what they don't realize is that MM hunters rely on intellect just as much as they rely on agility |
| 06:44.38 | Shirik|zZz | speccing MM without intellect won't work. Period. |
| 06:45.24 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 06:45.41 | VoiDRaider | It's true however few are the Hunters that can actually do it, in theory it's all good but in action you need to have some experience with it and most don't have that experience yet simply because raiding with our pets is not a viable option yet :P |
| 06:45.48 | Corrodias | because you use so many mana-using abilities |
| 06:46.18 | Shirik|zZz | plus aspect of the viper, careful aim, combat experience |
| 06:46.48 | Shirik|zZz | I would love to get to thrill of the hunt |
| 06:46.49 | Corrodias | well, combat experience has nothing to do with making intellect vital to a MM hunter |
| 06:46.52 | Shirik|zZz | but I can't put that many points in there |
| 06:47.06 | Shirik|zZz | not directly, no |
| 06:47.18 | Shirik|zZz | combined with careful aim and aotv it does |
| 06:47.34 | Corrodias | it increases the intellect but doesn't make you rely on it. careful aim and the way many abilities are enhancing mana-using abilities are why you need it. |
| 06:47.39 | Corrodias | *many talents |
| 06:47.58 | Shirik|zZz | the other issue you're looking at is hunters are inside the 5SR almost 24/7 |
| 06:48.10 | Shirik|zZz | which means (1) you need mana, and (2) you need mana regen |
| 06:48.27 | Shirik|zZz | otherwise your dps is done as soon as you're out of mana |
| 06:48.37 | VoiDRaider | Yeah |
| 06:49.56 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, seriously |
| 06:49.57 | Shirik|zZz | 3AM |
| 06:49.57 | Shirik|zZz | night |
| 06:50.02 | Corrodias | ni |
| 06:50.06 | VoiDRaider | Night :) |
| 06:51.04 | |Jelly| | night |
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| 06:58.07 | VoiDRaider | What would be better a idea, making an addon options LoD or releasing a "lite" version that will have no options and a "full" version with all the fancy ? :) |
| 06:58.57 | Corrodias | making an unconfigurable addon and the same thing that loads its options module whether you open the pane or not? |
| 06:59.03 | Corrodias | pane -> frame |
| 06:59.09 | zenzelezz | MSBT uses LoD options, I find it pretty nice |
| 06:59.30 | Corrodias | most addons use LoD configuration frames |
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| 06:59.35 | subbawt | what is MSBT |
| 06:59.37 | Corrodias | if they're big |
| 06:59.41 | VoiDRaider | Ok, I guess I'll use LoD then :P |
| 06:59.48 | zenzelezz | I don't use many addons :) |
| 06:59.58 | zenzelezz | subbawt: Mik Scrolling Battle Text |
| 07:00.02 | zenzelezz | SCT-like |
| 07:00.06 | subbawt | ah |
| 07:00.12 | subbawt | i use blizzard's floating combat text now :P |
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| 07:00.16 | subbawt | im cutting back on the mods |
| 07:00.29 | VoiDRaider | :D |
| 07:00.30 | Corrodias | i looked at it, didn't immediately see anything that made me want to change from SCT, and then got bored and did something else |
| 07:00.41 | VoiDRaider | Haha |
| 07:00.54 | Corrodias | incidentally, i chose egbert |
| 07:01.00 | zenzelezz | I don't care what anyone else uses ;-) It does what I want |
| 07:01.20 | Corrodias | i am curious how SCT and MSBT differ, though |
| 07:01.27 | Corrodias | i might prefer it if i understood what it does |
| 07:01.28 | zenzelezz | wouldn't know, never tried SCT |
| 07:01.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 07:02.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | they really need to let us form arcane dust into arcane cubes or something |
| 07:02.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | like 20 dust into a cube that stacks into 20 |
| 07:02.36 | zenzelezz | agreed |
| 07:03.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | because this stuff inflates in both supply in demand at a crazy rate |
| 07:03.07 | |Jelly| | i think food/drink should be able to be used at any level and should stack in 100. 8P |
| 07:03.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | jelly, i have about 40 stacks of arcane dust |
| 07:03.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and some things require 20-30 for one level of enchanting |
| 07:03.36 | zenzelezz | O_O |
| 07:03.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20-30 dust |
| 07:03.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | not stacks :P |
| 07:03.55 | |Jelly| | And? |
| 07:03.57 | zenzelezz | I know, I was O_Oing the 40 stacks |
| 07:04.16 | zenzelezz | I had Large Glimmering Shards coming out my ears after running 5-mans |
| 07:04.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it takes up a metric fuckton of space and the enchanting bags cap out at 24 slots |
| 07:04.38 | Corrodias | i got ridiculous amounts of netherweave cloth during the netherwing rep grind |
| 07:04.48 | |Jelly| | Elkano, are you there? |
| 07:04.50 | Corrodias | i sent 16 stacks to a mage and vendored the rest when it kept coming in :( |
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| 07:05.02 | zenzelezz | I seem to always have 100+ Heavy Netherweave Bandages |
| 07:05.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never have more than 20 bandages |
| 07:05.13 | zenzelezz | made 8 bags too, to get rid of cloth |
| 07:05.17 | |Jelly| | same |
| 07:05.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't use all that many |
| 07:05.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1) i can heal and 2) i can't use bandages in forms |
| 07:05.39 | zenzelezz | I don't really use many either, but I carry them just in case |
| 07:05.39 | Elkano | |Jelly|: pong? |
| 07:05.49 | Corrodias | we used bandages a lot during ZG, even us healers |
| 07:05.52 | zenzelezz | I also always try to keep two stacks of bullets, so I don't run out |
| 07:05.57 | Corrodias | i was feral/restoration at that time. that was cool. |
| 07:06.18 | zenzelezz | I'm a tank, so I mostly use bandages when soloing |
| 07:06.19 | Corrodias | better to stay out of the 5sr and save mana healing yourself |
| 07:07.04 | Elkano | btw: anyone willing to post in us forums for me? |
| 07:07.04 | |Jelly| | I haven't read the pages...but are aware of every now and then (I don't know what causes it) a blue bar flashes across the middle of the screen. (The Beta version) |
| 07:07.19 | |Jelly| | I'm going to after this...that EBB v2 can do that |
| 07:07.21 | Corrodias | what? |
| 07:07.57 | Corrodias | beta version of what? you've come out of nowhere with this |
| 07:07.59 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108322041&sid=1 (This what you're wanting, Elkano?) |
| 07:08.38 | Elkano | |Jelly|: if you would have read, you would have noticed it's a known bug. there's even a small videocapture of that bug :/ but I wasn't able to fix or even reproduce it... |
| 07:08.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i guess i exaggerated my arcane dust supplies |
| 07:08.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have 15 stacks, but i did just burn a decent chunk leveling up my enchanting |
| 07:09.09 | |Jelly| | Yeah. Like I said, I hadn't read..was just wondering if there was a fix/update/workaround while you were here. Sorry : / |
| 07:09.29 | Corrodias | read what? could someone clue me in? |
| 07:10.13 | Elkano | |Jelly|: exactly, I wanted to point the guy in the thread you linked and the one in the "skin elkanos bars" to the thread on wowace forums, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5467.0 |
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| 07:11.00 | Elkano | |Jelly|: well, my notebook is broken since about three weeks ago so I wasn't able to code in the last weeks. hopefully I'll have it running again this week |
| 07:13.10 | |Jelly| | kk...posted |
| 07:14.27 | Elkano | thx :) |
| 07:14.40 | |Jelly| | No problem 8) |
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| 07:47.37 | Corrodias | i had a dream that i was hearing a story about a town that had a mass, anonymous abortion in a cave and then was stalked by demons |
| 07:47.57 | Corrodias | now -that's- an interesting dream. |
| 07:51.19 | |Jelly| | That's...messed up... |
| 07:52.43 | Elkano | you were the one in charge handling the abortions, weren't you? ;) |
| 07:56.27 | Corrodias | hah, no |
| 07:56.38 | Corrodias | just someone hearing the story |
| 07:57.08 | |Jelly| | Would this macro work? (my shaman isn't resto to test it) |
| 07:57.09 | Corrodias | i can't think of anything in the last few days that could possibly inspire such a dream |
| 07:57.14 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.43 | Corrodias | i believe so |
| 07:57.43 | |Jelly| | To be honest, I have never used [help]/[harm] : / |
| 07:57.59 | |Jelly| | kk |
| 07:58.22 | Corrodias | i spot nothing wrong with it, but i haven't tried it |
| 07:58.25 | subbawt | there's a [help]? is that the same thing as [noharm]? (i suck at macros) |
| 07:58.32 | |Jelly| | Yeah |
| 07:59.42 | subbawt | so if you're holding alt, cast healing wave on yourself, if the target is friendly (cast it on your target's target?), |
| 07:59.48 | subbawt | i don't get the second statement |
| 07:59.58 | |Jelly| | That's my conflict with it |
| 07:59.59 | subbawt | should it be help instead of harm? |
| 08:00.02 | subbawt | err harm |
| 08:00.06 | Corrodias | wait wait |
| 08:00.07 | subbawt | instead of help |
| 08:00.08 | |Jelly| | Is it checking your target or your targets target? |
| 08:00.18 | |Jelly| | (for the help, that is) |
| 08:00.34 | Corrodias | [target=targettarget, help] Healing Wave; casts on your target's target if it's a friendly entity |
| 08:00.40 | |Jelly| | Because, I figured it would be harm for target=targettarget |
| 08:00.40 | subbawt | oh okay |
| 08:00.50 | Corrodias | if it is NOT, then it casts it on your target if THAT is a friendly entity |
| 08:00.52 | |Jelly| | so it does need to be haem |
| 08:00.55 | |Jelly| | haRm |
| 08:01.07 | |Jelly| | gah |
| 08:01.21 | Corrodias | what do you -want- it to do? |
| 08:01.23 | subbawt | no i think it's right with help |
| 08:01.25 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.41 | Corrodias | i can't say if it's right if i don't know what it's supposed to do |
| 08:01.56 | |Jelly| | I'm not sure either. |
| 08:01.59 | |Jelly| | (Forums) |
| 08:02.31 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108413307&sid=1 |
| 08:02.41 | Corrodias | "class Main { public static main(String[] args) {} }" is, if i remember my syntax, a correct java program, but won't do anything |
| 08:02.59 | subbawt | the class needs to be public |
| 08:03.15 | subbawt | and publics static void main |
| 08:03.22 | Corrodias | " Can I use the following macro on MT? " |
| 08:03.28 | Corrodias | what is MT? |
| 08:03.30 | subbawt | s/publics/public/ |
| 08:03.33 | subbawt | main tank |
| 08:03.48 | subbawt | ? |
| 08:05.09 | Corrodias | i imagine he can target the main tank and press the macro |
| 08:05.16 | Corrodias | doesn't mean it'll do what he wants, which is something he doesn't explain |
| 08:06.29 | Corrodias | what it will do is this: if he's holding alt, it'll heal himself. if he's not holding alt and his target is friendly, it'll heal his target. if neither of those is true, but his target's target is friendly, it'll heal that. if none of those are true, it'll heal himself. |
| 08:06.43 | Corrodias | i would assume this is what he wants |
| 08:07.03 | Corrodias | but i wonder if [target=target,help] could be compressed to [help] |
| 08:07.15 | subbawt | it's target=targettarget |
| 08:07.28 | Corrodias | the target=player may or may not be reset when it gets to the second possibility |
| 08:07.46 | Corrodias | subbawt: this is the line of the macro he posted, "/cast [modifier:alt,target=player] Healing Wave; [target=target,help] Healing Wave; [target=targettarget,help] Healing Wave; [target=player] Healing Wave " |
| 08:07.56 | subbawt | oh |
| 08:07.56 | Corrodias | i'm talking about the thread now, not what |Jelly| said |
| 08:08.13 | subbawt | why can't he just try it? :P |
| 08:08.22 | Corrodias | what Jelly posted will never heal his target |
| 08:08.29 | |Jelly| | From first look, his macro's b0rk3 |
| 08:08.42 | Corrodias | i don't know what b0rk3 meand |
| 08:08.44 | Corrodias | *means |
| 08:08.54 | Corrodias | and i expect you mean "at first glance" |
| 08:08.55 | zenzelezz | broke(n) |
| 08:09.00 | zenzelezz | = borked |
| 08:09.08 | |Jelly| | He's wanting it to (with no modifiers) to heal both himself and his target pending it's helpful |
| 08:09.48 | |Jelly| | "[target=target,help] Healing Wave;" and "[target=player] Healing Wave "" |
| 08:09.53 | Corrodias | impossible; you cannot cast a single-target spell on multiple people at the same time |
| 08:10.04 | |Jelly| | Where target=target is redundant, AFAIK |
| 08:10.07 | |Jelly| | .....that's my point |
| 08:10.17 | Corrodias | where do you get this information? it's not in the thread |
| 08:10.28 | |Jelly| | What information? |
| 08:10.34 | Corrodias | "He's wanting it to (with no modifiers) to heal both himself and his target pending it's helpful" |
| 08:10.42 | |Jelly| | Look at the macro |
| 08:10.49 | Corrodias | he's asking for help with the macro |
| 08:10.55 | |Jelly| | Yeah. I know... |
| 08:11.00 | Corrodias | you cannot assume that what the macro is doing is what he wants |
| 08:11.09 | Corrodias | or he wouldn't want help :) |
| 08:11.17 | |Jelly| | *sigh* then post what you think he needs |
| 08:11.21 | subbawt | it sounds to me like he wants to heal himself if he's pressing alt, his target if he's targetting a friendly, and his target'starget if he's targetting a non-friendly |
| 08:11.28 | Corrodias | i will not guess. i'll tell him to tell us. |
| 08:12.07 | |Jelly| | I never thought I would be making this argument but is it that hard to just look at his macro and fix what's wrong with it? |
| 08:12.16 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 08:12.30 | Corrodias | fix the java program i gave you before |
| 08:12.32 | zenzelezz | if you don't know how it's supposed to work, how can you fix it? |
| 08:12.42 | Corrodias | i want it to do something, but you don't know what it is :/ |
| 08:14.19 | |Jelly| | Do you all really fail at inference or something? Like I said, look at the damned thing. It's obvious that what he wants, really. Macro to alt click heals himself, else it finds a friendly target based upon his current target and heals them. |
| 08:14.32 | Corrodias | yes. i do not infer. |
| 08:14.35 | zenzelezz | then post what you're so sure about |
| 08:14.47 | Corrodias | if the user can't tell me what he wants i will not act on an assumption. |
| 08:14.47 | |Jelly| | I did like 15 minutes ago. |
| 08:15.13 | Corrodias | i'd rather make him tell me than risk giving him incorrect information |
| 08:15.15 | zenzelezz | just because the user knows what he wants doesn't mean he managed to express that with his macro |
| 08:18.43 | Corrodias | i think i saw a draenei hunter meleeing today. i entered the obligatory /laugh. |
| 08:24.09 | subbawt | So i've been having a problem lately. I will crash/get disconnected during a raid, and when I log on, everything will partially render on my screen (no interface, just the terrain/some models), and then wow will freeze, and the only way to fix it is to disable all of my addons. |
| 08:25.00 | Corrodias | -all- of them? |
| 08:25.04 | subbawt | yes |
| 08:25.11 | subbawt | it happens even if im running a minimal number of addons |
| 08:25.36 | Corrodias | when did it start? |
| 08:25.40 | subbawt | 2.1.0 :P |
| 08:25.48 | subbawt | it happens to other people in my guild as well |
| 08:25.52 | subbawt | only during raids |
| 08:26.06 | subbawt | (While in raid groups) |
| 08:26.26 | Corrodias | i havent heard of it happening... does your guild require/recommend any particular addons for raids? have you tried running without those? |
| 08:26.51 | Corrodias | not to suggest that it doesn't happen, but rather to indicate that it may have something to do with your guild |
| 08:26.54 | subbawt | I cut my UI down to three mods. |
| 08:27.01 | subbawt | none of which are required or anything |
| 08:27.08 | subbawt | and it still happened until i disabled all three of them |
| 08:27.19 | Corrodias | what are they? |
| 08:27.34 | subbawt | Bindpad, Grid, and Gymnast |
| 08:27.47 | Corrodias | i've heard of the first two, but what is gymnast? |
| 08:28.00 | subbawt | it's a gyspsy mod that relocates the tooltip |
| 08:28.09 | Corrodias | are any of those addons common to the guildmates who are having the same issue? |
| 08:28.35 | Corrodias | (i am not sure where i'm going with this; i bet you've thought along the same lines and i certainly can't fix it myself whatever it is) |
| 08:29.08 | subbawt | Grid would be the most likely candidate obviously |
| 08:29.13 | subbawt | but i can't really play without Grid |
| 08:29.16 | subbawt | and TONS of people use it |
| 08:29.53 | Corrodias | well, i'm going to recommend trying some alternatives just so you can function until you see if the problem continues to occur with each of those addons not active |
| 08:30.16 | Corrodias | what all do you use Grid for? perhaps i can recommend something |
| 08:30.56 | subbawt | raid frames |
| 08:30.59 | Corrodias | i don't know if an addon in itself can cause a complete game screwup... |
| 08:30.59 | subbawt | i know of alternatives |
| 08:32.48 | Corrodias | very strange problem. never heard of its like. |
| 08:36.15 | |Jelly| | What's your role in raids? |
| 08:36.28 | |Jelly| | Just out of curiosity. |
| 08:36.42 | Corrodias | enhancement. wink wink nudge nudge say no more |
| 08:37.14 | |Jelly| | @subbawt |
| 08:37.24 | norgs_away | if you need to replace grid, i would recommend perfectraid, but there's nothing really that i know of which is a direct replacement for grid |
| 08:37.30 | subbawt | i'm a healer (priest) |
| 08:37.39 | |Jelly| | ouch |
| 08:37.51 | norgs_away | pretty much need grid then |
| 08:37.59 | subbawt | i've used pretty much every raid frame mod at one point or another |
| 08:38.13 | |Jelly| | Have you updated Grid recently? |
| 08:38.19 | Corrodias | now what part of healing requires grid? |
| 08:38.26 | Corrodias | i haven't used it yet, myself |
| 08:38.40 | Corrodias | (i'm also no longer a healer since the expansion) |
| 08:38.41 | |Jelly| | Unless you have some other form of click healing, every part of it. : / |
| 08:38.49 | norgs_away | well none of it needs it |
| 08:39.12 | |Jelly| | Difference between need and want, I suppose. |
| 08:39.32 | |Jelly| | It makes life at least a thousand percent easier on raid healing. : / |
| 08:39.34 | Corrodias | i bind my spells to keys and then click on people to target them before casting, or press the keys to cast and then click on the person if i have nobody targetted |
| 08:39.36 | norgs_away | but grid lets you at-a-glance see everything that's happening to people all at once and in a very compact fashion |
| 08:40.02 | Corrodias | i should give it a try. perfectraid and its nicely aligned bars is the extent of my raid healing experience |
| 08:40.20 | norgs_away | basically fits a whole screen of info into a really small area |
| 08:40.22 | Corrodias | i couldn't imagine how anyone could heal with blizzard's UI, bars all over the place with no way to compare them |
| 08:40.43 | subbawt | yeah i was using the default UI in SSC this past week |
| 08:40.54 | subbawt | i am usually #1 on healing meters, and i was like #5 |
| 08:41.24 | norgs_away | honestly, i find myself lost if i have to heal on a stock ui |
| 08:41.54 | Corrodias | something that bugs me about praid is that i can only comfortably fit about 15 people to a column with my current UI layout. hm. |
| 08:42.07 | Corrodias | i'm very cluttered |
| 08:42.13 | norgs_away | anyhow, i was perfectraid until i was introduced to grid |
| 08:42.33 | |Jelly| | Healbot + Perfect Raid : / |
| 08:42.47 | subbawt | Same, i think i would still use praid if frames could still be automatically sorted while in combat |
| 08:42.54 | norgs_away | before perfect raid, i was ctraid... ugh. I don't know how i managed |
| 08:43.46 | Corrodias | you can't move them around during combat if you want them clickable to target people, can you? |
| 08:44.05 | subbawt | not anymore |
| 08:44.07 | norgs_away | i remeber the days of being a healer, and not being able to see anything cause 3/4 of your screen was filled up with ui.. :) |
| 08:44.07 | Corrodias | at least not without certain events. now we get into that "state" stuff i'm shaky on |
| 08:44.27 | subbawt | my first molten core raid |
| 08:44.30 | subbawt | i wish i screenshotted my UI |
| 08:44.51 | subbawt | i installed CT raid about 5 minutes before the raid started |
| 08:45.03 | subbawt | and my screen was like 95% health bars |
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| 08:51.50 | Corrodias | what did i used to do? i think i always had perfectraid. i got lucky. |
| 08:52.20 | Corrodias | didn't start raiding until quite a while into wow's life, though |
| 08:52.24 | Corrodias | i need to go to bed. 'ni |
| 08:53.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can do 7 out of 10 daily quests in about 45 minutes now |
| 08:53.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | not too bad |
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| 08:54.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | herb gathering in Netherwing, Bombing the eggs in terokkar, rescuing the skyguard guy in tero |
| 08:54.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | the hellfire pvp quest, ogrila simon game, BEM skyguard bombing and aether ray herding |
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| 09:21.05 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, I'm jealous |
| 09:21.10 | Tem | world pvp is dead on my server |
| 09:21.17 | Tem | so the hellfire pvp quest is a fail |
| 09:21.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally someone caps it right as the new day starts |
| 09:21.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i just recap it for us |
| 09:21.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's almost no pvp in halaa |
| 09:21.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 09:21.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | hellfire |
| 09:22.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the pvp happens in halaa |
| 09:22.09 | Corrodias | we used to have some halaa. i don't know if any pvp happens there now because i'm hardly ever in nagrand. |
| 09:22.24 | Corrodias | wait, i'm supposed to be in bed. [away] |
| 09:24.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | halaa's a hotspot for pvp on my server |
| 09:24.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's a pve server |
| 09:41.07 | Tem | we have _none_ |
| 09:41.21 | Tem | 10:1 ratio for alliance: horde |
| 09:41.58 | amro | Tem: wow. xfer or reroll |
| 09:44.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | ours is like |
| 09:45.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3:1 |
| 09:45.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | but generally just as many people in halaa pvp care on both sides |
| 09:45.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | 80% of the alliance in the zone wont come to halaa |
| 09:48.15 | Tem | there's a severe lack of garona horde |
| 09:48.16 | amro | horde outnumbers alliance on my server =) |
| 09:48.30 | Tem | they need to allow alliance on my server to do free transfers our |
| 09:48.31 | Tem | out |
| 09:48.37 | Tem | and allow horde to transfer in |
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| 11:47.13 | Borked|Raider | Shirik|zZz dont sleep |
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| 12:47.06 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 12:47.56 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 12:55.16 | VoiDRaider | Later guys :) |
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| 13:35.58 | Thunder_Child | ~blorb |
| 13:36.08 | purl | ACTION blorbs |
| 13:39.02 | cogwheel | ~ne blorber pas |
| 13:39.04 | purl | ACTION doesn't blorb |
| 13:39.58 | Thunder_Child | ~blorb |
| 13:40.00 | purl | ACTION blorbs |
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| 13:59.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh crap |
| 13:59.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's killdozer day |
| 14:00.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killdozer_%28bulldozer%29 |
| 14:00.28 | Shirik|zZz | Borked|Raider: ? |
| 14:00.45 | Borked|Raider | using rdx6? |
| 14:00.56 | Shirik | negative |
| 14:01.07 | Shirik | why? |
| 14:01.12 | Borked|Raider | ok, i was told so. But then sorry to bother you : |
| 14:01.26 | Shirik | nope, I author RDX.Cid which is based off RDX 5 |
| 14:01.27 | Borked|Raider | just some issue i had, wanted to know if other had it to |
| 14:01.33 | Borked|Raider | ok :) |
| 14:01.40 | Borked|Raider | big difference :) |
| 14:01.43 | Shirik | out of curiosity, what's the issue? |
| 14:01.52 | Shirik | yes, considering we've almost completely rewritten it by now :P |
| 14:02.17 | Borked|Raider | that when i try to promote a guy to main tank it pop up saying that its been blocked by using some action only for blizzard ui |
| 14:02.27 | Borked|Raider | but friend dont get it |
| 14:02.36 | Borked|Raider | and i tryed to disable all other addons, and still got it |
| 14:02.37 | Borked|Raider | :P |
| 14:02.45 | Shirik | oops |
| 14:02.52 | zenzelezz | is he also doing it through RDX? |
| 14:02.54 | Shirik | yeah that would probably be veni's fault then :P |
| 14:03.00 | Borked|Raider | naa |
| 14:03.20 | Borked|Raider | well, friend dont get it, and i just cant find out why i get it when he dont |
| 14:03.21 | Shirik | I know |
| 14:03.32 | Borked|Raider | he got it on pitbull tho |
| 14:03.40 | Shirik | Veni (at least used to) modified the dropdown menu on the raid screen |
| 14:03.48 | Shirik | not sure if that has something to do with it |
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| 14:04.06 | Shirik | we removed it in RDX.Cid in favor of something else, but I know it was there |
| 14:04.30 | zenzelezz | Borked|Raider: you can't compare you having a problem and he not having a problem if you're not trying to do the same thing with the same addon |
| 14:04.32 | Borked|Raider | ye thers some dropdowns in the menu, but should not cause the problems i think |
| 14:04.40 | zenzelezz | "My Volvo won't start, but my friend's Ford works fine" |
| 14:04.45 | Borked|Raider | we have the same addon, i get the error he dont |
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| 14:05.21 | zenzelezz | thought you said he didn't set them through RDX |
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| 14:06.47 | Borked|Raider | ye, we have the same addons and versions. but he dont get the error and i do |
| 14:06.58 | Borked|Raider | it dont realy make any sence :P |
| 14:07.22 | Shirik | are you sure you disabled all other addons? |
| 14:07.27 | Shirik | Just because it says it's rdx doesn't mean it is |
| 14:07.49 | zenzelezz | yeah, you can get some pretty funky messages when something is blocked |
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| 14:10.31 | Shirik | I will say this much: Veni likes to hook the hell out of everything, so it wouldn't suprise me if a taint exists, but on the same note he's pretty smart, I think he wouldn't be stupid about it. |
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| 14:14.03 | Shirik | lol... |
| 14:14.18 | Shirik | someone's talking about using a SSM to "debounce" spellcast events |
| 14:14.23 | Shirik | one one side I'm depressed I understand that |
| 14:14.38 | Shirik | on another side I'm excited that my classes actually have a purpose in WoW :P |
| 14:15.20 | Thunder_Child | to die? |
| 14:15.33 | Thunder_Child | stargat3sg1 |
| 14:15.45 | Thunder_Child | damn focus |
| 14:16.00 | Shirik | oh it was pastamancer too ^^ |
| 14:18.56 | Shirik | 10:16:40 ‹Keffo› "According to Jim Allchin, for future releases of Windows, ReadyBoost will be able to use spare RAM on other networked Windows Vista PCs" |
| 14:25.30 | Thunder_Child | ah, so instead of windows eating up the system resources on one system, it will now do it for every system on your network.... |
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| 14:26.59 | Shirik | yup ^^ |
| 14:27.10 | End | that better be something you have to specifically enable |
| 14:27.22 | Shirik | I'm looking forward to the whole "overflow memory buffer = gain access to remote computer" |
| 14:27.27 | Shirik | hehe |
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| 14:27.54 | Thunder_Child | i give it a week till it becomes hacked and it can be used against any machine on the netwok |
| 14:28.03 | Thunder_Child | free ram |
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| 14:31.39 | End | you know, if it tries doing that over a wireless connection that would be bad...not to mention you can't really trust availability of other machines on your network |
| 14:31.58 | End | power gets knocked out in the other room, oh, your program crashed! |
| 14:32.42 | End | (Is it supposed to be some sort of joke?) |
| 14:39.06 | Shirik | afaik, no |
| 14:39.08 | Shirik | it's legit |
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| 14:41.58 | seracht | Hi |
| 14:42.27 | Cairenn|afk | hi |
| 14:42.33 | seracht | How's it going? |
| 14:43.18 | Cairenn|afk | ssdd, you? |
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| 14:43.54 | seracht | bored....and at work heh |
| 14:44.10 | Cairenn|afk | bad combination |
| 14:44.18 | seracht | ya |
| 14:44.23 | Josh_Borke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 14:44.25 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn|afk and suddenly hugs Cairenn|afk tightly |
| 14:48.23 | Shirik | ~hug Cairenn |
| 14:48.26 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 14:48.26 | Shirik | what's ssdd? |
| 14:48.34 | Cairenn | same [stuff], different day |
| 14:49.12 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:49.15 | Shirik | I know what you mean |
| 14:49.26 | Josh_Borke | s/[stuff]/shit/ |
| 14:50.08 | Cairenn | whether it's a bad thing or not depends on which of the two words you're using - stuff or shit |
| 14:53.23 | seracht | if I Dl things from the SVN, do I have to update it everytime |
| 14:53.48 | seracht | for wowace heh |
| 14:54.06 | Shirik | class time /vanish |
| 14:56.56 | foxlit | Patch tomorrow? :) |
| 14:57.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe a minor bugfix patch like last week |
| 14:57.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | but generally anything bigger hits the ptr first |
| 14:57.32 | foxlit | Thinking 2.1.2 |
| 14:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | doubt it unless it's just a minor bugfix |
| 14:58.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | they ptr even the smaller patches now unless it's really urgent or really small |
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| 15:03.07 | TC-Working | seracht, do you mean by hand? |
| 15:03.17 | TC-Working | nvm |
| 15:03.20 | seracht | um ya I guess |
| 15:03.24 | TC-Working | forgot to scroll down |
| 15:03.32 | TC-Working | well i would reccomend the ace updater |
| 15:03.41 | seracht | does that extract the zip files? |
| 15:03.45 | TC-Working | si |
| 15:03.58 | seracht | cool I will use that I guess |
| 15:04.29 | seracht | Thanks |
| 15:04.32 | TC-Working | yea, its very handy |
| 15:04.34 | TC-Working | welcome |
| 15:04.49 | TC-Working | i want one of those for wowi as well |
| 15:04.58 | seracht | also with cyCircled, is it possible to move the bars and all |
| 15:05.03 | seracht | or does cyCircled just changing the buttons |
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| 15:05.09 | TC-Working | just buttons afaik |
| 15:05.10 | Josh_Borke | cyCircled just changes buttons |
| 15:05.13 | Kaydeethree | cy just changes buttons |
| 15:05.19 | TC-Working | but it wont stay on the button |
| 15:05.33 | seracht | k I have to get a bar mod then heh |
| 15:05.34 | TC-Working | it always resets with exit/reload |
| 15:07.25 | seracht | oh and, how much memory should most addons use |
| 15:07.26 | seracht | like total |
| 15:07.38 | foxlit | 200MB |
| 15:07.43 | seracht | oh |
| 15:07.46 | seracht | lol ok |
| 15:07.50 | seracht | guess my 9mb is good :) |
| 15:07.51 | foxlit | Okay, I'm trolling. |
| 15:07.55 | seracht | oh |
| 15:08.01 | Kaydeethree | it doesn't matter unless you don't have enough memory to begin with |
| 15:08.06 | foxlit | But it really depends on what you're running; memory isn't really that significant to performance |
| 15:08.17 | seracht | huh |
| 15:08.23 | seracht | memory isn't significant to performance? |
| 15:08.33 | foxlit | Not addon memory, no. |
| 15:08.41 | seracht | oh ok never mind |
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| 15:09.20 | Kaydeethree | if you start swapping stuff out because you don't have enough ram, then yes addon memory is an issue. but if you've got a gig of ram or more it doesn't matter. |
| 15:10.04 | seracht | heh I have 2gb |
| 15:10.07 | seracht | guess I am fine |
| 15:14.25 | foxlit | Meh, they tied the help text on the perforamnce display to "show beginner tooltips" |
| 15:14.43 | foxlit | Looks ugly without it :( |
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| 15:32.55 | seracht | do you guys know a mod that will tell to Overpower/Revenge when in other forms |
| 15:33.28 | seracht | I know the default blizzard scroller tells to do it when I am in that form, but with Stance Mastery...I can stance dance a lot more. |
| 15:34.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it still actively usable in other stances? |
| 15:35.00 | seracht | no |
| 15:35.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | my highest warrior is pretty low because the early game on warriors is boring as hell |
| 15:35.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean like |
| 15:35.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they dodge |
| 15:35.22 | seracht | I can jump to battle stance and overpower, I think |
| 15:35.27 | seracht | I never tried it |
| 15:35.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you swap to the proper stance, is it still lit up? |
| 15:35.33 | seracht | but thats what I assume |
| 15:40.39 | zenzelezz | seracht: MSBT has a bunch of "Triggers" (such as Overpower, Revenge, Kill Command, etc) that you can toggle on or off; but that may be a bit overkill if all you want is that particular notification |
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| 15:41.24 | zenzelezz | and yes, you can jump from Defensive/Berserker to Battle and still have Overpower available, provided you weren't too slow; in the same way you can jump from Battle/Berserker to Defensive Stance and do Revenge |
| 15:42.02 | seracht | Got it. |
| 15:42.19 | seracht | Also, whats the chat mod that Cairenn made called again? WoWchat? |
| 15:42.25 | seracht | er the text mod |
| 15:42.35 | Cairenn | Cairenn didn't make any mod |
| 15:42.49 | seracht | maybe it was someone else heh |
| 15:42.52 | seracht | Cladhaire? |
| 15:42.58 | seracht | :s |
| 15:43.03 | clad|work | hrm? |
| 15:43.08 | Josh_Borke | clad hasn't made any chatmods |
| 15:43.17 | clad|work | this is true. |
| 15:43.18 | seracht | Clearfont there we go |
| 15:43.25 | zenzelezz | that'd be Kirk |
| 15:43.26 | clad|work | Kirkburn |
| 15:43.29 | clad|work | clearfont.co.uk |
| 15:43.32 | seracht | right |
| 15:43.37 | seracht | K and C sound so similar |
| 15:44.06 | seracht | :s |
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| 15:48.20 | Industrial | ~seen Lunessa |
| 15:51.27 | purl | lunessa <n=chatzill@129.7.93.132> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 17h 44m 58s ago, saying: 'And... on that note, I'm allowed to close the shop and go home. Enjoy gents. '. |
| 15:51.29 | TC-Working | heh purl doesnt like Industrial |
| 15:51.31 | TC-Working | ~botsnack |
| 15:51.31 | purl | TC-Working: thanks |
| 15:51.31 | seracht | doesn't like you either |
| 15:51.32 | TC-Working | shhhh... Industrial cant know that |
| 15:51.32 | seracht | purl, seen Lunessa |
| 15:53.24 | purl | lunessa <n=chatzill@129.7.93.132> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 17h 46m 55s ago, saying: 'And... on that note, I'm allowed to close the shop and go home. Enjoy gents. '. |
| 15:53.24 | seracht | purl, ~seen Lunessa |
| 15:53.38 | seracht | me too :( |
| 15:55.13 | Industrial | lag? :P |
| 15:56.03 | Industrial | ~mornings |
| 15:56.06 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 15:56.06 | TC-Working | s/of/off/ |
| 15:56.53 | TC-Working | nice addy, nothing works cept the store... |
| 15:57.03 | TC-Working | damn money lovers |
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| 16:20.59 | jme | http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eeeewfo2.jpg |
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| 16:23.37 | Josh_Borke | *yawn* |
| 16:23.37 | seracht | lol ya jme, I saw that heh |
| 16:23.38 | Josh_Borke | well now |
| 16:23.38 | Kaso | Jm thats awesome |
| 16:23.38 | jme | yeah, it's oldish |
| 16:24.55 | Kaydeethree | oh heh |
| 16:25.05 | Kaydeethree | the new keylogger trojan's using WoWUiDes |
| 16:25.54 | Kaydeethree | unsafe link: http://nt00.com/wowuidesignerv1.0.300.10.zip |
| 16:26.42 | TC-Working | i am, ofc, i dont have wow on this box |
| 16:27.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, just a .zip of a .exe |
| 16:27.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That's no fun |
| 16:27.46 | TC-Working | so crack it open |
| 16:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Linux ;) |
| 16:28.06 | TC-Working | not exe it, crack it open |
| 16:28.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise I would. I just don't want it messing with my wine'd WoW install |
| 16:28.25 | Kaydeethree | mv .wine .wine-safe |
| 16:28.28 | Kaydeethree | then play with it |
| 16:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I like your thinking! |
| 16:29.36 | Kaso | I love the semi-invulnerable feeling of playing wow on wine |
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| 16:30.08 | TC-Working | heh, AVG found it when i extrated the file |
| 16:30.24 | Kaydeethree | there was an old report on /. about how well viruses/trojans work in wine |
| 16:30.29 | Shirik|Ecole | what's a power type? |
| 16:30.29 | Kaydeethree | a rather amusing read |
| 16:30.38 | Kaydeethree | mana? energy? rage? |
| 16:30.41 | Shirik|Ecole | ah ok |
| 16:31.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I found this floating around and I got confused >< return UnitPowerType(self.uid); |
| 16:31.18 | Kaso | Kaydeethree sounds interesting i'll see if i can find it |
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| 17:03.56 | foxlit | Button1.Enable(Button2) |
| 17:04.27 | foxlit | Assuming nobody messes with Enable, would that be equivalent to Button2:Enable() ? |
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| 17:11.27 | Kaso | yes. |
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| 17:38.12 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 17:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That trojan'd WoWUIDesigner? |
| 17:38.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It was running in the background, and I never noticed |
| 17:38.56 | TC-Working | whats so funny about it? |
| 17:39.06 | TC-Working | unlees ofc you wnet into wow |
| 17:39.14 | TC-Working | s/wnet/went/ |
| 17:39.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I never noticed until I went into WoW actually |
| 17:39.32 | seracht | :O |
| 17:39.33 | ScytheBlade1 | (Because it was eating one core) |
| 17:39.35 | seracht | password changed? |
| 17:39.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope actually |
| 17:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | No need |
| 17:39.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I noticed it was getting 4FPS and killed the process before logging in :P |
| 17:40.12 | TC-Working | dosnt mean thats the end of it |
| 17:40.20 | zenzelezz | I'm curious, was this an intentional trojan (from the WoWUIDesigner author) or someone that hacked it? |
| 17:40.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on wine, I'm pretty sure that's the end of it |
| 17:40.43 | TC-Working | hack i assume, it's never had one before |
| 17:40.45 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) I have ~/.wine-trojaned and ~/.wine-safe |
| 17:40.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 17:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | 2) The process is dead, and was running out of a directory which was moved (it won't be coming back) |
| 17:41.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Further, I don't save any of my login information ever, so even then they don't have my username |
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| 17:52.53 | zenzelezz | someone seems to think you can get http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29204 "of the Bandit" |
| 17:53.25 | Gnarfoz | can't |
| 17:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ... lol |
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| 17:54.01 | Shirik | mmm |
| 17:54.07 | Shirik | of the bandit = +50 AP and agi |
| 17:54.10 | Shirik | that would be teh hawt |
| 17:54.14 | Shirik | (at least imo) |
| 17:54.35 | TC-Working | awww...ctprofiles is dead :( |
| 17:54.43 | zenzelezz | yeah :-/ |
| 17:57.31 | TC-Working | figues, i just donated 8 days ago |
| 17:57.58 | TC-Working | oh well, i'm sure it will go to somewhere else for good works |
| 18:01.45 | zenzelezz | it reminded me a lot about auno.org for Anarchy Online... shame to see it go |
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| 18:05.33 | Shirik | I love how everyone's all like |
| 18:05.37 | Shirik | "wtf you all suck" |
| 18:05.51 | Shirik | I'm willing to bet more than 50% of those people didn't pitch in a penny |
| 18:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | "i have all my twink profiles here. i need to see em to see what get i have planned to get. this is REALLY bad new for me. cant you keep low level profiles up?" |
| 18:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:07.15 | ScytheBlade1 | "Whaaaaaaaaaaa, cater to my every need and desire!" <-- translation |
| 18:08.04 | TC-Working | *sigh* why hasent WIM put tabs in yet, it's like the one thing everyone one wants |
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| 18:16.17 | Josh_Borke | ~lart cogwhell |
| 18:16.18 | purl | steals cogwhell's mojo |
| 18:16.23 | Josh_Borke | ~lart cogwheel |
| 18:16.23 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on cogwheel and turns cogwheel into a brick |
| 18:17.07 | cogwheel | I'm not the one who broke the forums :( |
| 18:18.10 | cogwheel | Did you know that if you combine my initials with my wife's initials, it spells "Mojo"? |
| 18:18.17 | Shirik | nice! |
| 18:22.31 | Kaydeethree | heh. at least I had enough time to screw around with the forums css some more |
| 18:22.37 | Kaydeethree | even less crap getting displayed now |
| 18:31.13 | Kaydeethree | http://ctscreens.net/7328 |
| 18:31.32 | TC-Working | want http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30913 |
| 18:31.39 | Kaydeethree | if only I could figure out how to move the quicksearch/forum selector |
| 18:32.20 | Kaydeethree | tc; cripes! |
| 18:32.28 | Kaydeethree | if only we were getting to archimonde any time soon |
| 18:38.05 | TC-Working | i know, my guild is only doing gruul atm...or whatever his name is |
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| 18:41.29 | Industrial | ~seen Lunessa |
| 18:42.07 | purl | lunessa <n=chatzill@129.7.93.132> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 20h 35m 38s ago, saying: 'And... on that note, I'm allowed to close the shop and go home. Enjoy gents. '. |
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| 18:43.06 | Industrial | :< |
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| 18:51.16 | Shirik | does anyone know the bandaging range? |
| 18:52.08 | TC-Working | 1 square |
| 18:52.13 | zenzelezz | You die. You have slain Death Watcher! Your Shield Slam hits Death Watcher for 499. Death Watcher dies. |
| 18:52.21 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:53.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:58.49 | TC-Working | that cant be right...getting the best items i can only seem to get +1001 spell dmg |
| 18:59.52 | KarlThePagan | TC-Working, if that's not school specific +dmg that's really really good |
| 19:00.16 | KarlThePagan | even if it's school specific that's pretty good for a T4 player |
| 19:00.31 | KarlThePagan | actually IMO it's really good if you have that much dmg and capped +hit |
| 19:00.46 | TC-Working | capped +hit? |
| 19:00.58 | KarlThePagan | 16% +hit |
| 19:01.12 | TC-Working | oh, right |
| 19:01.18 | KarlThePagan | depends on class |
| 19:01.28 | TC-Working | well as a shadow P with the talent i only need 6% more |
| 19:01.30 | KarlThePagan | I actually saw a really compelling argument against +hit gear for affliction warlocks |
| 19:01.55 | KarlThePagan | yea you want to be capped as a SP |
| 19:02.28 | KarlThePagan | i'm at 16.5% hit and 760 dmg or so |
| 19:02.39 | TC-Working | it would also come with 301 int |
| 19:03.20 | KarlThePagan | still need 2 pieces of kara loot, spellstrike pieces, pvp neck, heroic trinket & offhand... pretty much everything |
| 19:04.00 | KarlThePagan | i'm basically nub wrt my gear... I just know how to oom myself so I pump out the damage and chug mana potions |
| 19:04.01 | TC-Working | hit rating is 102 |
| 19:04.09 | KarlThePagan | you're over |
| 19:04.17 | KarlThePagan | 75 or 80 is 6% i think |
| 19:04.39 | TC-Working | hmm..so this setup would work for me....i would never get it, but it would work |
| 19:05.54 | TC-Working | 63 haste |
| 19:06.49 | KarlThePagan | haste rating rules |
| 19:06.53 | KarlThePagan | wtb moar |
| 19:06.55 | TC-Working | 127 crit |
| 19:07.14 | pastamancer | what are you doing with that much crit? |
| 19:07.15 | KarlThePagan | meh on crit |
| 19:07.22 | KarlThePagan | do not want! |
| 19:07.32 | TC-Working | just happens to be on the items with the most +dmg |
| 19:07.38 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 19:07.45 | pastamancer | did you socket everything with +9 dmg gems? |
| 19:07.46 | KarlThePagan | try to get intellect over crit rating |
| 19:07.54 | KarlThePagan | and yea pasta knows it... ignore gem bonuses |
| 19:08.00 | KarlThePagan | get +9's |
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| 19:09.28 | TC-Working | 369 stam |
| 19:09.43 | TC-Working | mind you 28 of the +dmg is gems |
| 19:09.47 | pastamancer | just link us your armory :) |
| 19:09.51 | TC-Working | are you saying int would be better |
| 19:10.13 | TC-Working | thats not armory, that me being bored and finding indavidual items |
| 19:10.21 | pastamancer | +dmg > +hit > +sta > +int > +crit |
| 19:10.27 | KarlThePagan | TC-Working, yea int > spell crit |
| 19:10.30 | pastamancer | for shadow priests t least |
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| 19:10.58 | pastamancer | and don't forget enchants |
| 19:11.06 | TC-Working | oh..yea i forgot those |
| 19:11.26 | KarlThePagan | IMO dmg > spirit > hit > mp5 > int > sta > atp > crit |
| 19:11.34 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 19:11.36 | KarlThePagan | (atp is a joke... but crit is seriously meh) |
| 19:11.51 | Josh_Borke | only 2 spells can crit, MB and SW: D |
| 19:11.56 | KarlThePagan | yup |
| 19:11.59 | KarlThePagan | it's sadddddd |
| 19:12.08 | Josh_Borke | when you should be doing MF |
| 19:12.14 | Josh_Borke | so...where does that leave crit ;-) |
| 19:13.07 | pastamancer | hell, on curator, I only MB during evocates, it's MF and dots the rest of the time |
| 19:14.07 | |Jelly|zZz | You only MB? Man! That's the best time to Death! 8P |
| 19:14.25 | TC-Working | i cant belive that the best 2h weapon has less +dmg than the best 1h |
| 19:14.36 | KarlThePagan | I mb the sparks because we need them down fast |
| 19:14.58 | KarlThePagan | if I want to crit i'll inner focus a MB |
| 19:15.25 | KarlThePagan | hell I should macro my MB to be IF + MB |
| 19:15.26 | pastamancer | I'm on curator the whole time |
| 19:15.44 | pastamancer | and I don't have IF... I went 10 points in holy to get the spell damage reduction :) |
| 19:15.46 | KarlThePagan | I really like that idea pasta... it lets the SP feed everyone mana the entire fight |
| 19:16.12 | KarlThePagan | but we're still just starting to farm kara... so we need the dps on sparks |
| 19:16.32 | KarlThePagan | I do at least keep VT up on curator all the time |
| 19:16.35 | pastamancer | we don't have any paladins, so VT is vital |
| 19:16.38 | KarlThePagan | or at least right before an evo |
| 19:16.50 | KarlThePagan | lol we have 7-9 show up for every raid |
| 19:18.16 | pastamancer | last night I think we had 3 priests, 3 druids, 2 warriors, a rogue, and a mage |
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| 19:40.05 | Shirik | does the OnUpdate script make some global self ? |
| 19:40.23 | Shirik | no, that doesn't even make sense... |
| 19:41.37 | Shirik | I'm missing something stupid here: http://wowi.pastey.net/50856 |
| 19:41.51 | Shirik | line 46 says attempt to call Paint() (nil) |
| 19:42.00 | Shirik | (ignore the pcall I threw that in there just to verify it was the error) |
| 19:42.02 | Shirik | any thoughts? |
| 19:42.30 | Shirik | yes I'm stupid |
| 19:42.33 | Shirik | ignore me >.> |
| 19:42.42 | TS|Skrom | what was it? |
| 19:42.50 | Shirik | line 6 |
| 19:43.02 | Shirik | for some reason I did setmetatable(self, {}) instead of setmetatable(self, RDXM.GruulWindow) |
| 19:43.15 | TS|Skrom | oops |
| 19:43.27 | TC-Working | Shirik, does rdx only work for raids? |
| 19:43.32 | Shirik | nop |
| 19:43.33 | Shirik | parties too |
| 19:44.06 | TC-Working | you need to make a 'test' section that lets you config it when your not in either |
| 19:44.16 | Shirik | yeh I've thought about that several times |
| 19:44.37 | Shirik | probably will be implemented sometime in the future, just not immediately (have other higher priorities, like this duplicating unit bug) |
| 19:47.20 | |Jelly|zZz | Is real-time updating of the frame (while you're trying to customize it) on that list anywhere? 8) |
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| 19:49.19 | sysrage | http://tinyurl.com/ytygh2 |
| 19:52.16 | TC-Working | lol sysrage, is that you? |
| 19:52.58 | sysrage | heh no. funny to have that on google maps though |
| 19:54.11 | TC-Working | camera isnt perfect though |
| 19:55.20 | Shirik | grr |
| 19:55.24 | Shirik | 1 based indexing ftl! |
| 19:55.31 | Shirik | so many off-by-one errors today >.> |
| 19:55.55 | cogwheel | I blame it on 0-based indexing :P |
| 19:56.02 | Shirik | 0 based indexing is more logical |
| 19:56.18 | foxlit | orly? |
| 19:56.23 | zenzelezz | "an off-by-one index had done it again" |
| 19:56.28 | cogwheel | 1 based is more natural |
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| 19:56.38 | Shirik | the 0 based indexing is because of the way memory is addressed |
| 19:56.51 | Shirik | ldy <top of array>; ldaa x, <index> |
| 19:56.55 | Shirik | where index is the memory offset |
| 19:57.08 | Shirik | logically from the top of the array, the first index is 0 |
| 19:57.10 | cogwheel | yep. C was created for computers. Lua was created for programmers |
| 19:58.05 | Shirik | unfortunately I think like a computer :( |
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| 20:13.50 | foxlit | Anyone knows anything that tracks lifebloom duration and stack size over multiple targets? |
| 20:14.03 | Shirik | probably CCWatch |
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| 20:23.49 | seracht | Hi |
| 20:23.52 | Shirik | hi |
| 20:23.54 | TC-Working | ~bitchslap Thunder_Child |
| 20:24.07 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Thunder_Child |
| 20:24.33 | seracht | Do you guys have any good screenshots of priest UIs |
| 20:24.39 | seracht | just looking for something clean |
| 20:25.05 | seracht | ie: http://i12.tinypic.com/68iui49.png I love this UI |
| 20:25.32 | Shirik | uh |
| 20:25.38 | Shirik | wow |
| 20:25.42 | Shirik | I couldn't do anything on that UI |
| 20:25.51 | TC-Working | a whole UI setup? |
| 20:26.09 | seracht | TC-Working: sure :) |
| 20:26.33 | TC-Working | i dunno, i use my own |
| 20:26.41 | Shirik | same |
| 20:27.03 | TC-Working | this is what i have http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1225/527425637_fb93e9c644_b.jpg |
| 20:27.10 | TC-Working | ish, it's ofc changed since then |
| 20:27.15 | TC-Working | which was yesterday |
| 20:27.39 | TC-Working | rdx is where dmg meters is |
| 20:28.36 | Shirik | TC-Working: :) |
| 20:29.04 | Shirik | I like the spam of "type /help to see a list of possible commands" |
| 20:29.46 | TC-Working | i was trying to do a bug report command line, i got tired of it and made visible the menu bar (hence it can be seen bottom right) |
| 20:29.54 | Shirik | heh |
| 20:31.28 | seracht | I like it TC-Working |
| 20:32.11 | TC-Working | thank you..it's simply stuf i thought would come in handy |
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| 20:34.52 | seracht | oops |
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| 20:44.22 | Josh_Borke | panzy |
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| 20:50.08 | Industrial | Can I get wow to take screenshots in png format? |
| 20:50.31 | Industrial | </3 jpg compression |
| 20:50.53 | foxlit | no? |
| 20:50.59 | foxlit | tga or death! |
| 20:51.09 | foxlit | (alternatively, you can adjust compression level) |
| 20:51.15 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 20:51.45 | Josh_Borke | not png |
| 20:51.47 | Josh_Borke | but yes to tga |
| 20:56.30 | Industrial | INC HOTNESS http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7140 |
| 20:56.55 | TC-Working | whats so hot about it? |
| 20:57.45 | Shirik | it's made by him :P |
| 20:57.58 | Industrial | Yes, it has status. |
| 20:58.08 | Industrial | nah, i just aded a location text :P |
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| 20:58.26 | AnduinLothar | you dont use tomtom for that? |
| 20:59.31 | Shirik | tomtom is ftw |
| 20:59.33 | Shirik | and on that note |
| 20:59.36 | Shirik | dinner. |
| 20:59.42 | TC-Working | didnt there used to be a wowart? |
| 20:59.53 | TC-Working | i wne to wowart.com and it's porn >.< |
| 20:59.56 | TC-Working | went* |
| 21:00.15 | Industrial | haha, yes |
| 21:00.20 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: nop |
| 21:00.53 | Elkano | world of porncraft |
| 21:01.08 | Elkano | or was it whorecraft? |
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| 21:01.20 | sysrage | whorecraft heh |
| 21:02.07 | foxlit | Mwhaha. |
| 21:02.18 | foxlit | I've got a perfect name for a silly addon :P |
| 21:02.45 | foxlit | Fear the Bloominator! |
| 21:04.51 | zenzelezz | all right, so my heroic Arcatraz group skipped the first boss after three wipes |
| 21:04.59 | zenzelezz | then we one-shot Skyriss |
| 21:05.20 | Josh_Borke | moving not so ez? |
| 21:05.48 | foxlit | Tbh Skyriss tests the healer only |
| 21:05.58 | foxlit | Whereas the first boss is a relatively decent check on the whole group |
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| 21:10.25 | Shirik | Dinner!! |
| 21:13.11 | MentalPower|Work | anyone here know how you can manually unbind a process from a port? ie, unbind a dead apache process from port 80. |
| 21:13.30 | TC-Working | win/mac/nix? |
| 21:13.43 | Elkano | kill? |
| 21:13.53 | Josh_Borke | kill it |
| 21:15.19 | Kaydeethree | `killall -9 httpd` |
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| 21:18.38 | TC-Working | MentalPower|Work questions and runs.... |
| 21:18.49 | MentalPower|Work | linux |
| 21:18.51 | MentalPower|Work | sorry |
| 21:19.15 | MentalPower|Work | it can't be killed |
| 21:19.30 | MentalPower|Work | says its on an "uninterruptible sleep state" |
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| 21:19.57 | MentalPower|Work | ideally we would restart the server, but thats currently not an option |
| 21:20.12 | foxlit | mwhahaha. |
| 21:20.18 | Josh_Borke | MentalPower|Work: did you try service httpd restart? |
| 21:20.19 | MentalPower|Work | so we would like to start another apache process, but the old one is taking up port 80 |
| 21:20.21 | foxlit | Okay, I seem to be saying that too much |
| 21:20.34 | foxlit | Ended up writing something entirely in XML with nested lua snippets :P |
| 21:20.49 | Josh_Borke | yuck |
| 21:20.53 | Josh_Borke | hate @ nested lua in XML |
| 21:21.10 | Josh_Borke | tha'ts the one thing i really hate about XML frames, nesting lua in the definitions |
| 21:21.16 | foxlit | Why? It works, it's small, and I cba to add another file. |
| 21:21.30 | TC-Working | MentalPower|Work, if you cant kill it can you remap it on the fly? |
| 21:21.41 | foxlit | Plus if XML bugs, I don't need to handle it Lua-side |
| 21:22.35 | MentalPower|Work | remap it? |
| 21:22.45 | TC-Working | have it point to another port |
| 21:23.02 | MentalPower|Work | the old one or the new one? |
| 21:23.10 | TC-Working | i never used apache that much so i dont know what it's capable of |
| 21:23.16 | TC-Working | well idealy the old one |
| 21:23.29 | TC-Working | but i suppose you can put the new one through say...8080? |
| 21:23.42 | MentalPower|Work | how would you remap the old one to another port? |
| 21:24.27 | TC-Working | i dunno, just throwing out alts |
| 21:25.00 | MentalPower|Work | you've hit the nail, but the old apache is dead, looking for an OS or kernel command to do exactly what you say |
| 21:25.12 | MentalPower|Work | dead as in unresponsive and unkillable |
| 21:25.25 | TC-Working | "#apache on Freenode IRC is also available for user support issues."? |
| 21:27.09 | TC-Working | MentalPower|Work, http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/linux/kill-tcp-connection-using-linux-netstat.php |
| 21:27.13 | TC-Working | maybe |
| 21:31.46 | TC-Working | http://www.kerman94.com/mexicotourism |
| 21:37.09 | foxlit | I could look this up, but I'm lazy |
| 21:37.56 | foxlit | <Frame name="Parent"><Frames><Frame name="Child"/></Frames><Scripts><OnLoad>x = Child == nil; </OnLoad></Scripts></Frame> |
| 21:38.06 | foxlit | Is x true or false? |
| 21:38.51 | Josh_Borke | i say true |
| 21:41.59 | TC-Working | i say who cares |
| 21:42.30 | foxlit | I do. |
| 21:42.34 | Shirik | foxlit: False |
| 21:42.46 | foxlit | Found [[UI_Code_Load_Order]] :) |
| 21:42.47 | Shirik | oh wait Child |
| 21:43.01 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:43.11 | Shirik | I'm guessing.... |
| 21:43.14 | Shirik | true |
| 21:43.23 | foxlit | It's false. |
| 21:43.26 | Shirik | bah |
| 21:43.32 | foxlit | Frame is fully instanced before OnLoad is called |
| 21:43.58 | Josh_Borke | oh wait, you want to know if child is nil |
| 21:44.02 | Josh_Borke | duh, of course it's not nil, otherwise onload couldn't fire |
| 21:44.28 | Shirik | sure it could |
| 21:44.33 | Shirik | we're looking at the child being nil |
| 21:44.38 | Shirik | not the frame |
| 21:45.04 | Josh_Borke | the child frames are initialized before the scripts are called, in case the onload depends on the child frames |
| 21:45.28 | Shirik | right, but you couldn't really assert that just by looking at it :P |
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| 21:47.28 | Josh_Borke | yes i could, that's why i said true, because i was confuzzled :-P |
| 21:47.34 | Josh_Borke | purl, defend me |
| 21:47.48 | purl | ACTION jumps in front of josh_borke, taking all insults, violence and anything else negative thrown toward josh_borke so that josh_borke may live on in peace and quiet |
| 21:48.02 | Josh_Borke | ~botsnack |
| 21:48.03 | purl | Josh_Borke: :) |
| 21:48.07 | TC-Working | ~ go away |
| 21:48.13 | purl | /server irc.rt.ru |
| 21:48.13 | TC-Working | ~go away |
| 21:48.15 | purl | /server irc.rt.ru |
| 21:48.37 | TC-Working | uhh.... w/e purl |
| 21:48.48 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:48.56 | Shirik | wonder what that server is |
| 21:49.09 | Shirik | it doesn't exist :P |
| 21:49.18 | Josh_Borke | maybe that's the idea? ;-P |
| 21:50.47 | TC-Working | it's the russian bride server |
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| 22:00.54 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: ping |
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| 22:18.44 | foxlit | You can only get one UNIT_AURA event per OnUpdate cycle per unit, right? |
| 22:19.10 | Josh_Borke | um, those are 2 different things |
| 22:19.31 | Josh_Borke | UNIT_AURA is event driven, where-as OnUpdate is based on frame rate |
| 22:20.23 | foxlit | Nevertheless |
| 22:21.55 | Josh_Borke | so no, you can't make that assumption |
| 22:21.56 | foxlit | I presume the rendering cycle looks something like this: issue events -> issue OnUpdate -> render world -> repeat |
| 22:21.56 | foxlit | Otherwise we can get into a mess with slow OnEvent code preventing OnUpdate and hence rendering |
| 22:22.04 | Josh_Borke | which i think happens |
| 22:22.25 | Josh_Borke | because i'm sure that UNIT_AURA can fire more often than your FPS if your FPS is stupid low |
| 22:28.55 | foxlit | Hm, no |
| 22:29.05 | foxlit | It's UNIT_AURA -> Render -> New UNIT_AURA |
| 22:29.23 | foxlit | Even if a new UNIT_AURA event is recieved during the old handler |
| 22:29.33 | Josh_Borke | interesting |
| 22:29.52 | foxlit | It'd be a lot easier to choke wow if it was any other way |
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| 22:35.33 | foxlit | Can play around with http://wowi.pastey.net/50998 |
| 22:38.16 | Industrial | ~seen Lunessa |
| 22:38.47 | purl | lunessa <n=chatzill@129.7.93.132> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 32m 18s ago, saying: 'And... on that note, I'm allowed to close the shop and go home. Enjoy gents. '. |
| 22:39.13 | Industrial | reeeeeh :( |
| 22:40.02 | TC-Working | just wait it out |
| 22:40.07 | TC-Working | or send bot mail |
| 22:40.46 | Industrial | I already sent real mail |
| 22:40.49 | Industrial | twice |
| 22:40.50 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:41.11 | TC-Working | then sit back and relax, things will come as they come |
| 22:41.14 | Industrial | haha real |
| 22:41.20 | Xuerian | In about 6-10 working days. |
| 22:41.32 | Industrial | I said real >_> |
| 22:41.35 | Xuerian | XD |
| 22:41.41 | Xuerian | Practically is, now :p |
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| 22:46.49 | TC-Working | gah, so tired/bored |
| 22:48.00 | Industrial | ^ |
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| 22:55.23 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/RaidFilter |
| 22:55.26 | foxlit | er. |
| 22:55.34 | foxlit | Wrong channel :) |
| 22:55.39 | TC-Working | really? |
| 22:55.46 | TC-Working | and here i thought i asked for that |
| 22:55.50 | TC-Working | :) |
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| 23:04.15 | JoshBorke | wereHamster: ping |
| 23:05.12 | cladhaire | did sioraiocht diconnect at all |
| 23:05.14 | cladhaire | disconnect |
| 23:05.16 | cladhaire | or was it just me? |
| 23:05.24 | JoshBorke | both it appears |
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| 23:07.22 | cladhaire | orly? |
| 23:07.35 | cladhaire | can you pastey the log for me, showing us d/c? |
| 23:08.24 | JoshBorke | no |
| 23:08.37 | haste | http://hastey.pastey.net/51013 |
| 23:08.47 | JoshBorke | http://wowi.pastey.net/51014 |
| 23:09.01 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 23:30.14 | JoshBorke | how would i go about removing an entry from a # separated string, ie: 1#2#3#4 -> 1#2#4? |
| 23:30.20 | JoshBorke | they're like children in the other channel |
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| 23:33.37 | nymbia | JoshBorke: use find to get the location of the chunk you want to erase, then use :sub to grab the before chunk and the after chunk, and concat them together |
| 23:33.52 | nymbia | JoshBorke: that, or :gsub it out, assuming they're unique |
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| 23:34.30 | Industrial | seriously. |
| 23:34.32 | Industrial | bored. |
| 23:34.35 | TC-Working | hits* |
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| 23:36.40 | nymbia | and that's when we all decided that Tuller was the source of that odor |
| 23:36.48 | Tuller | nice |
| 23:36.55 | Industrial | lmao |
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| 23:37.18 | nymbia | JoshBorke: use find to get the location of the chunk you want to erase, then use :sub to grab the before chunk and the after chunk, and concat them together |
| 23:37.24 | nymbia | JoshBorke: that, or :gsub it out, assuming they're unique |
| 23:37.38 | JoshBorke | what about the surrounding #? |
| 23:38.02 | nymbia | account for that in the :sub locations |
| 23:38.27 | JoshBorke | but how will i know where it is! :-( |
| 23:38.44 | nymbia | check the indexes! |
| 23:38.55 | nymbia | :find() ;) |
| 23:38.57 | Fin | hello Tuller |
| 23:39.04 | Tuller | hello |
| 23:39.24 | Fin | I don't suppose you've considered my request to seperate special trade bags from the rest of the bag slots in Bagnon, have you? :) |
| 23:39.26 | nymbia | well, if you've got a 3 |
| 23:39.48 | Tuller | Fin: it'll probably happen whenever I implement some sort of filtering again :P |
| 23:39.56 | nymbia | local start, end = ('1#2#3#4#5'):find('3') |
| 23:40.41 | nymbia | if start > 1 then start = start - 1 |
| 23:40.51 | JoshBorke | oh, i see |
| 23:40.59 | Fin | Tuller: ah, righto :) could you give me any pointers if I wanted to do it myself? (not asking for anything too detailed, 'course... I'm just not very experienced with Lua... :) |
| 23:41.01 | nymbia | local firstchunk = str:sub(1,start-1) |
| 23:41.05 | JoshBorke | thanks nymbia :-) |
| 23:41.06 | nymbia | and so forth |
| 23:41.08 | nymbia | sure :D |
| 23:41.23 | Bleeter | wtb: [Live Maintenance] |
| 23:42.13 | Bleeter | those west australians/singaporeans/malaysians etc. playing must be getting really pissed right about now |
| 23:43.01 | JoshBorke | if start > 1 then start = start - 1 else stop = stop + 1 end :-D |
| 23:43.09 | Tuller | Fin: it would be a bit difficult to do without any knowledge of lua :) |
| 23:46.13 | Fin | oh, I have *some* knowledge of lua :) I've written a few bits modules for prat and have read through a lot of the manual and stuff, it just takes me a while to work through things still (hence me asking for hints) |
| 23:46.29 | Fin | hey! I smell an opportunity for a plug |
| 23:47.02 | Fin | Tuller: I even wrote a little thing that (I think) makes it easier to find stuff in the manual: http://pgl.yoyo.org/luai |
| 23:47.10 | Fin | </plug> |
| 23:49.06 | Corrodias | so... |
| 23:49.21 | Fin | so! |
| 23:49.33 | Corrodias | the blizzard pet action bar still has trouble showing in combat and all. could we code our own pet action bar using secure states so it could properly show during combat? |
| 23:49.47 | Fin | the answer is: yes! |
| 23:50.15 | Tuller | Fin: well, you'd have to rewrite my layout items function in Bagnon\core\frame.lua, and check if a bag is special or not. You can use BagnonUtil:IsProfessionBag(bag[, player]) to do so |
| 23:50.15 | Corrodias | almost makes it worth me going through the trouble of learning how to make addons (rather than just tweak them) |
| 23:50.34 | Fin | Tuller: great, thanks! that's exactly the sort of things I was hoping for |
| 23:51.29 | Fin | is bagFrame.lua for the bag bit at the bottom of Bagnon (that's hidden by default)? |
| 23:51.44 | Tuller | Fin: yeah |
| 23:52.58 | Corrodias | Fin has answered "yes!". that seems to be just the sort of thing somebody would already have made. why haven't i heard about it? |
| 23:53.19 | Fin | there's all sorts of things that seem as though someone should've written them already |
| 23:53.33 | Tuller | Corrodias: what if I told you the answer was no? :) |
| 23:53.46 | Fin | just go check the forums on worldofwarcraft.com, wowinterface.com, and wowace.com and look for addon requests |
| 23:54.12 | Fin | actually I take it all back, my magic 8 ball was broken |
| 23:54.14 | Fin | sorry |
| 23:55.06 | Tuller | Fin: you should be able to simply redefine the BagnonFrame:LayoutItems function in a seperate addon to, so that you can test with it on and off :) |
| 23:55.34 | Fin | Tuller: good idea, thanks! :) |
| 23:55.38 | Fin | although... |
| 23:56.16 | Fin | Tuller: would you use a patch that added an extra option to the right click config menu allowing the bags to be seperated? |
| 23:56.34 | Tuller | Fin: sure |
| 23:56.43 | Fin | that question makes a huge assumption about whether I'm able to actually do this or not, but I'll give it a go :) |
| 23:57.32 | Fin | ooh, you don't use parens in arithmetic, that always confuses me |
| 23:57.37 | Fin | what's the mnemonic again? |
| 23:58.14 | Corrodias | Tuller: i'd probably ask, then, why not. possibly i'd investigate what secure states there are, looking for anything referencing a pet. |
| 23:59.11 | Tuller | Corrodias: well I had originally set the bongos pet bar to use its own stateheader for controlling stuff, but you need to do stuff on PET_ACTIONBAR_UPDATE which screwed up hiding for me a bit |
| 23:59.30 | Tuller | Corrodias: so now its blizzard controlled |
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| 23:59.43 | Corrodias | blizzard's bar refuses to show during combat, not much use if you're dismounted by an attack or something |
| 23:59.47 | Tuller | Corrodias: though you could get away with not doing that provided you set the pet buttons to always show |
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| 23:59.58 | Tuller | Corrodias: I had the same issue with the stateheader :) |
