| 00:00.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Also see: TOC updaters, people who refuse to update period for any reason, and simply don't care |
| 00:00.30 | foxlit | And that's why you sneak things on them! |
| 00:00.55 | foxlit | Although I suspect it's a lot more difficult to stop a runaway signed patch. |
| 00:01.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Give the user an option. That's what it comes down to |
| 00:01.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Include patch version in version requests |
| 00:01.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And use common sense with a patch distribution timetable |
| 00:01.57 | Lunessa | reductio ad absurdum - Windows Update doesn't turn XP into Vista - would you use it if it did? |
| 00:02.38 | trik | everytime i play wow on vista, the screen goes black every 30sec |
| 00:02.53 | trik | it's too buggy |
| 00:02.57 | trik | horrible |
| 00:02.59 | foxlit | Lunessa: Do I trust Microsoft? |
| 00:03.19 | foxlit | More specifically, do I trust them to act in my best interest? If so, yes. |
| 00:03.34 | Lunessa | You don't, but millions of others do. My point was to reduce your stance to the most absurd possibility. |
| 00:03.54 | foxlit | Doesn't do anything to the trust argument :) |
| 00:04.07 | trik | lots of games are for microsoft =P |
| 00:04.18 | foxlit | If (I trust microsoft) then (I don't mind microsoft updating my software) |
| 00:04.20 | trik | only one you can trust |
| 00:04.36 | foxlit | If (I don't trust Microsoft) then (Why am I using their products?) |
| 00:05.09 | Lunessa | I don't know, are you? :P Maybe there's no alternative? |
| 00:05.18 | Shirik | I trust Microsoft to act in my best interests |
| 00:05.22 | Shirik | even if I do hate them |
| 00:05.23 | Kaydeethree | no windows software touches my computer |
| 00:05.28 | Kaydeethree | s/windows/microsoft/ |
| 00:05.39 | Lunessa | My point being, give the user an option to opt out. |
| 00:05.42 | Shirik | lies! |
| 00:05.46 | Shirik | I best you use Office for Mac |
| 00:05.49 | ckknight | Kaydeethree: lunix? |
| 00:05.53 | Lunessa | always. |
| 00:05.54 | Shirik | bleh |
| 00:05.55 | Shirik | linux |
| 00:05.55 | Kaydeethree | I'm on f7 |
| 00:06.01 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 00:06.01 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 00:06.03 | ckknight | <--- mac |
| 00:06.12 | Kaydeethree | shirik: openoffice.org |
| 00:06.17 | Shirik | ya that's what I figured |
| 00:06.22 | Lunessa | <-- Mac, Windows, some Linux |
| 00:06.27 | foxlit | openoffice for mac == alpha, not fit for production? |
| 00:06.50 | Kaydeethree | that's oo.o using aqua. oo.o using X11's been stable for years |
| 00:09.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik, let me write up a thing on what my version of how to impliment patching would be (if you're still interested) |
| 00:09.51 | Shirik | no reason to say no |
| 00:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 00:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got Gruul going on now though, so it'll be a bit. ;) |
| 00:10.31 | Shirik | it's ok I'm just gonna keep writing up my stuff :P |
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| 00:12.48 | TC-Working | hmm...do does this mean that addons are going to start patching themselfs? |
| 00:12.58 | Shirik | who knows |
| 00:13.00 | Shirik | I know RDX will |
| 00:13.05 | Shirik | if others want to follow suit |
| 00:13.07 | Shirik | that's up to them |
| 00:13.21 | Shirik | it is most definitely a very bad idea to completely replace updates |
| 00:13.28 | Shirik | patching is more of a "temporary" solution |
| 00:13.35 | Shirik | maintaining something like that is next to impossible |
| 00:13.39 | TC-Working | ofc, thats assuming that someone online has the patch? |
| 00:13.42 | Shirik | right |
| 00:14.07 | Shirik | My intention is to include little patches inside each release, or distribute patches to my guild as I see fit |
| 00:14.12 | foxlit | If sure that if someone actually decided to make that their purpose, you could get all addons to run from memory |
| 00:14.19 | Shirik | these will be a temporary solution until that person goes and gets the updated client |
| 00:14.42 | foxlit | Problem is there's no direct internet -> wow route, so _someone_ still has to fetch patches from the web |
| 00:14.46 | Shirik | right |
| 00:14.53 | Shirik | and there are other problems too, like you can't actually edit the files |
| 00:14.56 | foxlit | (best case scenario is that one user per battlegroup can do it, but that's evil) |
| 00:14.56 | Shirik | you can only hook, etc. |
| 00:15.44 | foxlit | You're keeping the files architecture; you could still replace that with a more interesting solution |
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| 00:15.53 | foxlit | Especially considering that people seem to hate XML |
| 00:17.22 | TC-Working | hmm...cant remeber, where is the one place that wow writes to? |
| 00:17.31 | Shirik | WTF? |
| 00:17.43 | TC-Working | thought it was called something specific |
| 00:17.50 | Kaydeethree | SavedVariables? |
| 00:18.00 | TC-Working | that works |
| 00:18.12 | Industrial | I pimped firefox http://i8.tinypic.com/5zleuyx.png SCHWA-ZING |
| 00:18.23 | Shirik | WTF/Account/<accountname>/SavedVariables/<character>/<addon>.lua |
| 00:18.35 | Shirik | or WTF/Account/<accountname>/SavedVariables/<addon>.lua |
| 00:18.37 | Shirik | I think those are the two |
| 00:18.39 | foxlit | ew, 95 controls! |
| 00:18.46 | Industrial | 2000* |
| 00:18.59 | foxlit | No, 95 |
| 00:19.05 | Industrial | its xp, so 2000 |
| 00:19.06 | Shirik | Industrial: lol |
| 00:19.09 | Shirik | is it in black and white too? |
| 00:19.12 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:19.13 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:19.20 | Shirik | rofl |
| 00:19.22 | Industrial | (I didnt make it) |
| 00:19.32 | foxlit | <Shirik> or WTF/Account/<accountname>/SavedVariables/<addon>.lua |
| 00:19.33 | Shirik | I know your name now!! |
| 00:19.34 | Shirik | Tom! |
| 00:19.41 | TC-Working | and anything can be written to a saved variable file? |
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| 00:19.43 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.48 | Industrial | =E |
| 00:19.58 | foxlit | nevermind :) |
| 00:20.04 | Shirik | TC-Working: almost |
| 00:20.09 | foxlit | It's actually another line |
| 00:20.19 | Shirik | any table that doesn't have a table-key |
| 00:20.22 | foxlit | <Shirik> WTF/Account/<accountname>/SavedVariables/<character>/<addon>.lua |
| 00:20.25 | foxlit | WTF/Account/<accountname>/<Realm>/<CharName>/SavedVariables/<addon>.lua |
| 00:20.28 | Shirik | any table with table keys will be skipped |
| 00:20.37 | Shirik | well, that element will be skipped |
| 00:20.52 | TC-Working | damn, so you couldnt write an entire addon into the file? |
| 00:20.52 | foxlit | >>> "wru" |
| 00:21.06 | Shirik | no, you can only store variables there :( |
| 00:21.10 | foxlit | Yes, you could |
| 00:21.16 | Industrial | as string, eval it |
| 00:21.18 | Shirik | the way I have it working is during initialization it loadstring()s those and runs em |
| 00:21.24 | Shirik | right, but it's still just a variable |
| 00:21.30 | Shirik | you can't literally write a file |
| 00:21.38 | Shirik | but you can do something like |
| 00:21.39 | foxlit | Who cares about that? :) |
| 00:21.42 | foxlit | It just has to run :P |
| 00:21.44 | Industrial | ooo, self adapting code anyone? |
| 00:21.45 | Shirik | var = [[ some code ]] |
| 00:21.47 | Shirik | there ya go |
| 00:21.56 | Shirik | Industrial that's what we've been talking about for the last hour >< |
| 00:22.00 | Industrial | oh nm |
| 00:22.01 | Industrial | :> |
| 00:22.30 | Shirik | but yes |
| 00:22.37 | Shirik | every file is just a chunk |
| 00:22.41 | Shirik | and loadstring() accepts any chunk |
| 00:22.51 | Shirik | so sure, if you wanted to use a SV to store an addon |
| 00:22.53 | TC-Working | that would be handy, then you could fully update your addon just by overwriting the info there |
| 00:22.54 | Shirik | it (should) be possible |
| 00:22.56 | foxlit | should RunScript anyway |
| 00:23.04 | TC-Working | brb |
| 00:23.57 | foxlit | Out of interest: |
| 00:24.04 | foxlit | ##SavedVariables: Test |
| 00:24.25 | foxlit | Test = {a="stuff", b="more stuff", c=12398102, d=34093403}; Test.t = Test; |
| 00:24.51 | TC-Working | i bet it would be possible to run an entire addon out of there...someone will ifgure it out |
| 00:24.52 | foxlit | That won't pose a problem at runtime, but does it challenge the SV? |
| 00:25.10 | foxlit | TC-Working: Discussed that about a week ago |
| 00:25.23 | TC-Working | and the verdict? |
| 00:25.43 | foxlit | Certainly annoying, but not impossible |
| 00:25.55 | TC-Working | easy to update though |
| 00:26.02 | TC-Working | via ingame anyways |
| 00:26.12 | Shirik | foxlit: It works fine |
| 00:26.16 | Shirik | the only thing you can't do |
| 00:26.27 | Shirik | Test = {}; Test[Test] = Test |
| 00:26.35 | Shirik | or Test[{1,2,3}] = 4 |
| 00:26.52 | Shirik | that will be skipped |
| 00:27.04 | TC-Working | no ugly workaround? |
| 00:27.17 | foxlit | nil --[[ skipped recursive table ]], |
| 00:27.27 | Shirik | ?? |
| 00:27.28 | Shirik | since when?! |
| 00:27.32 | Shirik | I thought it did those |
| 00:27.39 | Shirik | interesitng |
| 00:28.03 | foxlit | The main problem is that the addon being run in that fashion needs a custom SV-Ready notificiation |
| 00:28.08 | Shirik | ya |
| 00:28.28 | TC-Working | hmm? |
| 00:28.30 | foxlit | Hm, actually, don't even have to do that |
| 00:29.00 | foxlit | end-of-OnLoad: MySavedVariables = Prism_Global_SavedVars.MyAddonName |
| 00:29.11 | foxlit | then run VARIABLES_LOADED routines |
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| 00:33.48 | Lunessa | The armory would rock if a) it was faster, b) had consistent uptime, c) didn't crash half the browsers trying to use it. |
| 00:34.17 | Kaydeethree | I still can't figure out why they're using flash for no good reason half of the time |
| 00:34.40 | TC-Working | really?? i havent had an issue with them yet |
| 00:35.10 | Lunessa | The new "find an Upgrade" feature is delicious. But... slow, and pages take all day to load. |
| 00:35.26 | TC-Working | try it on a OC12, no issues |
| 00:36.00 | TC-Working | s/a OC12/an OC12 connection/ |
| 00:37.36 | foxlit | EU armory is still choked :( |
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| 00:43.47 | clad|work | Anyone here care to test out the new LightHeaded version? Drastic revamp, total new look, lots more information. Won't work with anything other than TomTom and the default questlog/EQL/DoubleWide, but fully usable. |
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| 00:44.25 | Dreadlorde | heelo? |
| 00:44.35 | Lunessa | I'd guinea pig for you, but I'm in the office for another 3 hours. |
| 00:44.37 | cladhaire | hi |
| 00:44.44 | cladhaire | Lunessa: not so much a guinea pig |
| 00:44.45 | cladhaire | it works |
| 00:44.49 | cladhaire | just more feedback than anything else |
| 00:44.54 | cladhaire | its release quality righ tnow |
| 00:45.03 | cladhaire | but i need to get the api done and documented for other quest log addons |
| 00:45.07 | cladhaire | since they'll need to update |
| 00:45.22 | Lunessa | *nod* I've been meaning to try it out on release, but um... well, I use Cartographer. |
| 00:45.22 | Shirik | cladhaire: I guess I'll go install it finally :D |
| 00:45.28 | TC-Working | i'll give it a test when i get home cladhaire |
| 00:45.29 | cladhaire | i'll zip up for you |
| 00:45.37 | cladhaire | Lunessa: what does using cart have to do with it? |
| 00:45.42 | Grissom | I'd give it a go when I get out of ramparts |
| 00:45.55 | Lunessa | You said it only work with TomTom ... |
| 00:46.07 | cladhaire | if you want click to add waypoints |
| 00:46.16 | cladhaire | if you dont have TomTom, you just dont get that |
| 00:46.17 | cladhaire | it still works |
| 00:46.21 | cladhaire | quite well =) |
| 00:46.24 | Lunessa | Ah, so ka. |
| 00:46.37 | Dreadlorde | what cha talking about? |
| 00:46.49 | cladhaire | LightHeaded |
| 00:46.50 | cladhaire | new version |
| 00:46.50 | cladhaire | beta |
| 00:46.53 | cladhaire | for like a day |
| 00:47.13 | Dreadlorde | ah |
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| 00:47.43 | Dreadlorde | how often do you update the comments from wowhead to lightheaded? |
| 00:47.56 | cladhaire | should be weekly |
| 00:48.04 | cladhaire | depending on the amount of parsing changes they throw at me |
| 00:48.04 | cladhaire | why?. |
| 00:48.19 | cladhaire | http://dump.brokendreams.net/files/LightHeaded-Beta-r83.zip if you wanna test it out |
| 00:48.26 | Grissom | glad to see you made it Dreadlorde |
| 00:49.01 | Dreadlorde | cladhaire: why?. I just wantd to know how up to date you kept everything |
| 00:49.14 | cladhaire | okay, i was just asking why you wanted to know =) |
| 00:50.02 | cladhaire | i'll grab screenshots after moroes |
| 00:50.17 | Dreadlorde | =) thanks grissom for helping me figure out how to use the irc |
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| 00:50.30 | Grissom | Dreadlorde: no problem, happy to help |
| 00:51.31 | Shirik | cladhaire |
| 00:51.33 | Shirik | did you... |
| 00:51.35 | Shirik | forget stuff? |
| 00:51.45 | cladhaire | where? |
| 00:51.58 | Shirik | oh I see |
| 00:52.00 | Shirik | it goes back a folder |
| 00:52.01 | Shirik | ok |
| 00:52.03 | Shirik | nm ^^ |
| 00:52.12 | Shirik | I just got confused when I had 8 folders with TOCs and no data in them |
| 00:52.42 | cladhaire | :) |
| 00:52.44 | Lunessa | Anyone seen this AddOn 'Goose'? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7160-Goose.html |
| 00:53.12 | TC-Working | yes, i saw it after i clicked the link.... |
| 00:53.13 | Shirik | heard of something doing that, yeah |
| 00:53.15 | Shirik | never knew what it was |
| 00:53.49 | Lunessa | Native Options lib is a good idea. I wish I had thought of it. |
| 00:54.14 | Dreadlorde | if anyone cares, Lozareth is back =) |
| 00:54.31 | cladhaire | Lunessa: its nice, but will get rather crowded there |
| 00:54.35 | cladhaire | handy tho |
| 00:54.42 | Shirik | cladhaire: Why exactly did you split data across about 8 folderS? |
| 00:54.47 | Shirik | just curous |
| 00:54.48 | Shirik | curious |
| 00:54.53 | cladhaire | Shirik: so you only load the 20 level range you need |
| 00:54.57 | Shirik | ahh I get it |
| 00:54.58 | cladhaire | now its uncompressed |
| 00:54.58 | cladhaire | faster |
| 00:55.00 | cladhaire | better |
| 00:55.06 | Lunessa | so they can be LoD'ed faster? |
| 00:55.08 | cladhaire | its actually 9 folders |
| 00:55.22 | cladhaire | + LightHeaded |
| 00:55.33 | cladhaire | will be a total of 8 + 1 + 1 + LightHeaded when I'm done |
| 00:55.45 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:55.50 | Shirik | are there any / commands for LH? |
| 00:55.54 | cladhaire | no |
| 00:55.56 | cladhaire | open your quest log. |
| 00:55.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:56.06 | Shirik | I think it's /behind/ my quest log |
| 00:56.11 | cladhaire | no its not |
| 00:56.12 | cladhaire | you have a nub |
| 00:56.13 | cladhaire | click it. |
| 00:56.22 | Shirik | I see |
| 00:56.24 | Shirik | cool, but |
| 00:56.30 | Shirik | that's a bit hard to click on my screen :/ |
| 00:56.37 | cladhaire | your fault not mine. |
| 00:56.41 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:56.52 | cladhaire | it will stay in whatever state you leave it in |
| 00:56.56 | cladhaire | i'll be changing the default to open |
| 00:56.57 | Shirik | it's about 2 pixels large |
| 00:56.58 | Dreadlorde | whats with all the toc files/folders in the beta lightheaded? |
| 00:57.03 | cladhaire | Shirik: what scaling are you using |
| 00:57.08 | Shirik | good question |
| 00:57.08 | cladhaire | Dreadlorde: We just went through this... |
| 00:57.16 | Shirik | .87 |
| 00:57.17 | cladhaire | Shirik: cause its definitely 16 pixels wide. |
| 00:57.18 | Dreadlorde | ohh..i'll scroll up |
| 00:57.57 | Shirik | yeah btw |
| 00:57.58 | cladhaire | Shirik: I could probably make it 20 pixels.. but its not that difficult to hit |
| 00:57.59 | Shirik | awesome work |
| 00:58.06 | Dreadlorde | k, got it |
| 00:58.21 | cladhaire | Shirik: It'll make more sense when its open by default |
| 00:58.25 | Shirik | I agree |
| 00:58.32 | cladhaire | since they'll have to close it and see where it goes |
| 00:58.37 | Shirik | ya |
| 00:58.45 | cladhaire | i just like mine shut =) |
| 00:58.47 | cladhaire | since nothing loads |
| 00:58.49 | Shirik | btw |
| 00:58.57 | Shirik | that is probably one of the coolest things I've seen an addon do :P |
| 00:59.04 | cladhaire | NPC data hyperlinks will be enabled in an upcoming version |
| 00:59.07 | cladhaire | next versionu actually |
| 00:59.14 | cladhaire | rigt now they are there, just not clickable. |
| 00:59.20 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:59.23 | Shirik | I can click them |
| 00:59.42 | cladhaire | yes |
| 00:59.45 | cladhaire | and they're not auto added to tomtom |
| 00:59.51 | Shirik | oh you mean the location |
| 01:00.04 | cladhaire | yes |
| 01:04.16 | cladhaire | Shirik: If you can think of other overview information that would be useful, let me know. |
| 01:04.29 | cladhaire | But I think I got everything that isn't in the actual quest description |
| 01:05.30 | Shirik | I can only think of one other thing |
| 01:05.34 | Shirik | but it would be incredibly difficult to do |
| 01:05.56 | Shirik | occasionally people name other NPCs in comments. A link to them would be nice |
| 01:06.05 | Shirik | but there's no really good way to identify them out of a block of text |
| 01:06.25 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:06.29 | cladhaire | well not by name |
| 01:06.31 | cladhaire | if they link it |
| 01:06.34 | cladhaire | i can go to it easily |
| 01:07.17 | cladhaire | i also plan to provide quest lookup database |
| 01:07.22 | cladhaire | won't be loaded by default at all, cause it will be large |
| 01:07.30 | Shirik | oh well I had someone link something too |
| 01:07.48 | Shirik | that probably could be able to be picked up |
| 01:07.50 | cladhaire | what do you mean? |
| 01:08.08 | Shirik | "Confirmed but Nuramoc (rare elite) <some wowhead link> likes to..." |
| 01:08.16 | Shirik | perhaps you could parse that wowhead link? |
| 01:08.38 | cladhaire | yes i can |
| 01:08.43 | cladhaire | its just wowhead.com/?npc=SSSS |
| 01:08.47 | Shirik | ya |
| 01:08.50 | cladhaire | i can do the exact same link |
| 01:08.51 | cladhaire | just haven't yet. |
| 01:09.13 | cladhaire | i dont think i want to go into item locations |
| 01:09.16 | cladhaire | i think that's doing too much |
| 01:09.25 | cladhaire | if you can't get the info you need from this, I can't help you =) |
| 01:09.39 | cladhaire | so Im' going to re-scrape/parse tonight |
| 01:09.46 | cladhaire | get the zcoords working |
| 01:09.56 | cladhaire | then get cart waypoints coded in |
| 01:09.57 | cladhaire | maybe |
| 01:10.48 | Shirik | fun |
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| 01:11.03 | Shirik | ooh |
| 01:11.05 | Shirik | then |
| 01:11.10 | cladhaire | ? |
| 01:11.21 | Shirik | LH could use Prism to transmit the latest quest databases :D |
| 01:11.23 | Shirik | jkjk |
| 01:11.28 | cladhaire | Prism? |
| 01:11.37 | Shirik | foxlit's digital signature system |
| 01:11.45 | cladhaire | heh |
| 01:11.46 | Shirik | s/system/library/ |
| 01:11.47 | cladhaire | not so much |
| 01:11.52 | cladhaire | if slouken fixes my bug, the data will be locked down |
| 01:11.57 | Shirik | bug? |
| 01:12.04 | cladhaire | the issecurevariable() one |
| 01:12.06 | Shirik | ah right |
| 01:12.18 | Shirik | you're trying to see if someone tampers with it? |
| 01:12.30 | cladhaire | no |
| 01:12.34 | cladhaire | i can completely lock the data off |
| 01:12.37 | cladhaire | have the model already implemented. |
| 01:12.39 | cladhaire | just need that bit. |
| 01:12.44 | Shirik | interesting |
| 01:12.55 | cladhaire | the problem is |
| 01:13.02 | cladhaire | i need people who use the api |
| 01:13.08 | cladhaire | to use the wowhead graphics in their frames |
| 01:13.18 | cladhaire | after all, this data is all theirs, and we need to attribute that. |
| 01:13.32 | cladhaire | so I'd like to provide API keys that are required |
| 01:14.38 | cladhaire | in order to acces the data |
| 01:14.44 | cladhaire | i dreamt up the scheme while sleeping =) |
| 01:14.55 | cladhaire | wokeu p and had it =) |
| 01:14.57 | Shirik | seems to be the best place to code :P |
| 01:15.05 | cladhaire | thats where LH came from =) |
| 01:16.20 | Dreadlorde | bye everyone, I'm going to test LH and then go to sleep |
| 01:19.26 | Kaydeethree | heh, world server just crahsed |
| 01:19.32 | Kaydeethree | s/crahsed/crashed/ |
| 01:19.34 | Kaydeethree | good thing I'm in SSC |
| 01:29.45 | Grissom | lightheaded looks good, the layout's a bit...off |
| 01:29.50 | cladhaire | why? |
| 01:30.19 | cladhaire | I mean, what do you mean? |
| 01:30.51 | Grissom | using Skinner and doublewide about 1/2 an inch of lightheaded is tucked behind the right edge of the quest log after it pans out |
| 01:31.13 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 01:31.17 | cladhaire | i can't adjust for skinner |
| 01:31.24 | Grissom | it would fit perfectly on the default quest log |
| 01:31.32 | cladhaire | or on doublewide. |
| 01:31.40 | Grissom | doublewide |
| 01:31.45 | cladhaire | plus, its supposed to be tucked behind |
| 01:31.52 | cladhaire | thats intentional |
| 01:31.58 | cladhaire | its not next to, its attached/behind. |
| 01:32.10 | cladhaire | the text should be 15 pixelsish from the right edge |
| 01:32.54 | *** join/#wowi-lounge haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 01:32.58 | Grissom | hmm, text is hidden behind the scrollbar on my quest log |
| 01:33.00 | Grissom | http://i17.tinypic.com/4lr53rk.jpg |
| 01:33.16 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:33.18 | cladhaire | skinner fucks that frame |
| 01:33.29 | cladhaire | that's now how LH ends up looking at all |
| 01:35.21 | cladhaire | LightHeaded: http://artificialtruth.com/v/webimages/Picture+1.png.html |
| 01:36.25 | cladhaire | can you disable skinner and see how it looks? |
| 01:37.12 | Shirik | one thing I really hate with SciTE |
| 01:37.15 | Shirik | when I type "do" |
| 01:37.20 | Shirik | and hit enter |
| 01:37.25 | Shirik | it autocompletes to dofile |
| 01:37.34 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:37.42 | Shirik | and comments too |
| 01:37.47 | Shirik | autocomplete should not work in comments! |
| 01:41.49 | cladhaire | Grissom: hello? |
| 01:49.14 | Shirik | coroutines can access upvalues can't they? |
| 01:50.40 | cladhaire | if they have upvalues, yes |
| 01:50.54 | Shirik | that's what I thought.... I know I read something earlier today that something can't access upvalues :/ |
| 01:50.58 | Shirik | I can't remember what it was now :( |
| 01:53.01 | Zeal | is there a way of hooking a function to x:y without the first argument ending up in self? |
| 01:53.42 | Shirik | huh? |
| 01:54.06 | Shirik | foo:bar() will always be a call to bar in table foo with the first parameter as self = foo |
| 01:54.11 | Shirik | that's what the colon means |
| 01:54.27 | Zeal | yes i know |
| 01:54.34 | Shirik | if you don't want to pass self, do foo.bar() |
| 01:54.58 | Zeal | yes, but thne it sets the hooked function to the result of foo.bar() |
| 01:55.10 | Shirik | foo.bar() and foo:bar() are the same function |
| 01:55.19 | cladhaire | there's only one function |
| 01:55.24 | Shirik | they just have different parameters passed |
| 01:55.25 | Zeal | ofc, i know |
| 01:55.40 | Zeal | nvm |
| 01:55.53 | Shirik | I really just don't understand your question Zeal |
| 01:56.27 | cladhaire | if you dont want self |
| 01:56.29 | cladhaire | then throw it away |
| 01:58.14 | Zeal | eg. TextStatusBar_UpdateTextString = StatusText.Funcs.Update, when my function is defined as StatusText.Funcs:Update means the first argument being sent to TextStatusBar_UpdateTextString will be stored in self, i don't want it to do. So other than redefining my function as .Update, is there a way to not end up with the first arg in self? |
| 01:58.25 | Zeal | *do that. |
| 01:58.37 | cladhaire | no |
| 01:58.40 | Zeal | kk then |
| 01:59.40 | ckknight | yes |
| 01:59.44 | ckknight | with magic! |
| 02:00.01 | ckknight | and by magic I mean closures |
| 02:00.14 | ckknight | TextStatusBar_UpdateTextString = function(...) StatusText.Funcs:Update(...) end |
| 02:00.33 | Zeal | oh, funky. |
| 02:00.37 | cladhaire | yeah you can do that |
| 02:00.44 | cladhaire | but if you need to, you're doing somethign wrong |
| 02:00.45 | cladhaire | really =) |
| 02:00.54 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=chatzill@129.7.94.13) |
| 02:01.06 | Zeal | well there really is no reason for me to be using :, jsut experiementing |
| 02:01.12 | cladhaire | heh |
| 02:03.04 | Shirik | http://wowwiki.com/Object_Oriented_Programming |
| 02:03.09 | Shirik | explains why the : exists and what it's good for |
| 02:06.00 | Zeal | part about classes yeah? |
| 02:06.09 | Shirik | yeah |
| 02:06.38 | Shirik | scroll down to the part on metatables |
| 02:08.10 | Zeal | guess i understand, though afaik i've not has a need to do anything like that. |
| 02:08.15 | Zeal | *had |
| 02:08.32 | Shirik | then you don't have a good reason to use a : over a . :) |
| 02:08.39 | Zeal | aye |
| 02:09.09 | Nom- | lern2oo :) |
| 02:09.43 | ckknight | Shirik: good practice :-P |
| 02:09.53 | ckknight | and allows you to prototype later on if you want to |
| 02:11.09 | Lunessa | best to learn good coding habits at the start. retraining yourself is harder than training yourself. |
| 02:11.34 | Shirik | this is true, but there is such a thing as overuse of that sugar |
| 02:12.03 | Lunessa | werd |
| 02:14.17 | Lunessa | I know of at least one case where I got a job over someone who wrote a bit more efficient code for the simple reason that I indented and commented my code samples and he didn't. |
| 02:15.09 | Zeal | rofl |
| 02:15.20 | Shirik | hey |
| 02:15.24 | Shirik | I would take you over him any day |
| 02:15.36 | Shirik | Code that you can go back to and make sense out of is very important |
| 02:15.37 | Lunessa | So did the company I went to work for. :) |
| 02:15.45 | Shirik | especially in a business where the person who's modifying it is most likely not the person who wrote it |
| 02:16.14 | Karrion | same... I could maybe understand not a lot of commenting in a quickly sketched code sample... but not _indenting_?! |
| 02:16.23 | Lunessa | I can't count the number of times where I hacked something, didn't comment, and then took extra time trying to figure out just wtf I had written. |
| 02:16.32 | Shirik | yup ^^ |
| 02:16.35 | Shirik | now I over-comment |
| 02:16.38 | Shirik | because of cases like that |
| 02:16.45 | Shirik | like my 200 line comment in RDXM_BattleRecorder |
| 02:16.52 | ckknight | oh man, I never comment |
| 02:16.53 | Karrion | you can go too far in overcommening though |
| 02:17.04 | ckknight | except in crazy cases |
| 02:17.06 | Shirik | I have an ASCII drawing :D |
| 02:17.07 | Lunessa | heck, I even comment my HTML for easy editing later. |
| 02:17.14 | ckknight | I document everything, though |
| 02:17.18 | Karrion | I once saw someone who literally had a line comment on every single line |
| 02:17.24 | Shirik | ow |
| 02:17.25 | cladhaire | if someone looks at the code, and wonders whatit does |
| 02:17.26 | cladhaire | its commented |
| 02:17.28 | Osagasu | That's like... overkill |
| 02:17.30 | Shirik | welll... |
| 02:17.30 | Karrion | including lines with only an opening or closing brace |
| 02:17.38 | Shirik | my 68HC code is typically a comment per line |
| 02:17.44 | Shirik | let me see if I can find it here for you |
| 02:18.16 | FlAWD | [IO Bandwith]-[Read=59.750MB/s]-[Write=59.750MB/s]-[Other=0.017MB/s] |
| 02:18.27 | FlAWD | oops wrong chan =X |
| 02:18.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:19.06 | Shirik | here |
| 02:19.07 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/53253 |
| 02:19.10 | Shirik | almost a comment on every line |
| 02:19.23 | Shirik | eh, maybe not |
| 02:19.37 | Shirik | but it comes decently close |
| 02:20.06 | Shirik | I gave up trying to comment imul32 |
| 02:20.15 | Shirik | it's the same damn thing over and over again |
| 02:20.53 | Lunessa | This is good enough... It |
| 02:21.06 | Lunessa | tells you what you need to know to debug/maintain/change |
| 02:21.18 | FlAWD | while i'm paying attention in here ... is there any way to write something to trigger an in game sound when a yellow quest/tracking ping shows up on the mini map? |
| 02:21.23 | Karrion | yeah that's decent commenting... assembler always needs a bit more verbose commenting since the language itself is so terse |
| 02:21.24 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 02:21.27 | Shirik | FlAWD: no |
| 02:21.31 | Kaydeethree | fiawd: intentionally impossible |
| 02:21.34 | FlAWD | /cry |
| 02:21.46 | FlAWD | i could packet sniff ^ ^ |
| 02:21.59 | Shirik | you could get yourself banned too |
| 02:22.04 | FlAWD | true |
| 02:22.06 | Shirik | pastey doesn't like my tabulation :( |
| 02:22.11 | Shirik | the comments don't line up |
| 02:25.43 | MentalPower|Work | do you have "None" selected as your language |
| 02:25.45 | MentalPower|Work | ? |
| 02:26.02 | Tem | am I crazy or is there really no way to have an aura active and use one of the pallies other abilities in D2? |
| 02:26.55 | Shirik | MentalPower|Work: I switched it over to 68k assembly (which isn't entirely accurate but close enough) |
| 02:27.03 | Shirik | oh god D2 |
| 02:27.07 | Shirik | I should try it |
| 02:29.00 | Tem | we were playing it at work today |
| 02:29.03 | Tem | go go slow weeks |
| 02:29.33 | Tem | but I didn't play along today so I'm trying to catch up to them solo |
| 02:29.44 | Tem | but playing this pally is driving me crazy |
| 02:30.09 | Tem | it seems that I have to either pick between using an aura and having to normal attack everything, or using a special and not getting an aura |
| 02:30.25 | Tem | which seems wrong |
| 02:33.34 | Tem | oh I feel dumb |
| 02:34.00 | Tem | and relieved |
| 02:37.18 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:37.21 | Shirik | did you figure it out? |
| 02:52.37 | Shirik | wow |
| 02:52.45 | Shirik | so that was definitely the most extensive use of coroutines I've ever made -_- |
| 02:52.56 | Shirik | creating a handshaking process in WoW with timeouts isn't easy >< |
| 02:53.12 | Shirik | especially when it could be between more than 2 people, but doesn't have to be |
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| 03:08.16 | Nom- | Shirik: What did you need a handshaking process for? |
| 03:08.38 | Shirik | transmission of digitally signed code |
| 03:08.40 | Shirik | basically |
| 03:08.51 | Shirik | first, one client has to request what is available. All other clients respond |
| 03:09.14 | Shirik | That client has to determine what it wants (if anything) and then request it. Concurrently, all other clients can ask for the same (or more) from the same client |
| 03:09.43 | Shirik | Then, once requests are received, they must be serviced. However, to save time |
| 03:10.04 | Shirik | If multiple clients request the same data, then it will transmit to all of them at the same time (indicated by having multiple targets in the targets table) |
| 03:10.27 | Shirik | Also.... it must be understood that it is possible that the request will never be serviced (for various reasons) and thus a timeout is needed |
| 03:10.52 | Shirik | however, because the client that is servicing the request may need to service multiple clients at once, it must delay the request, but not longer than the timeout (plus processing time and latency) |
| 03:10.55 | Shirik | yeah.. fun |
| 03:11.01 | Shirik | want to see the code? :D |
| 03:11.14 | Nom- | What's the purpose of said distribution of information? |
| 03:11.22 | Nom- | What's it for? |
| 03:11.27 | Shirik | patching addons over guild chat :D |
| 03:11.33 | Nom- | *blink* |
| 03:11.40 | Nom- | How is that even going to work? |
| 03:11.51 | Shirik | want to see? I've gotten the important details down |
| 03:12.03 | Nom- | How do you write the updated code tho? |
| 03:12.06 | Nom- | I dun get it |
| 03:12.08 | Shirik | loadstring() |
| 03:12.16 | Shirik | it's stored in a SV |
| 03:12.25 | Shirik | during initialization, the table of patches is run through and executed |
| 03:12.49 | Nom- | That sounds like it'd be painfully slow |
| 03:13.02 | Shirik | well I'm working on figuring out if it is :P |
| 03:13.05 | Nom- | And how do you get the first version? |
| 03:13.15 | Nom- | ie. How does the originator get the patch? |
| 03:13.18 | Shirik | it has to be downloaded, and isn't intended to be a replacement for downloading updates |
| 03:13.30 | Shirik | however, patches can temporarily be used until the user has time to actually go download the release |
| 03:13.45 | Nom- | Sounds like an awful lot of trouble to go to |
| 03:14.04 | Shirik | yeah, but I'm sick of my guildies complaining because I update a bossmod 5 times a day |
| 03:14.06 | Nom- | You know, I reckon blizzard should make an official addons repository |
| 03:14.13 | Nom- | and distribute an addon updater |
| 03:15.11 | Shirik | haha! |
| 03:15.13 | Shirik | It works :D |
| 03:15.16 | Lunessa | never going to happen. |
| 03:15.19 | Shirik | though it still needs a lot of touchups |
| 03:15.21 | Shirik | but it works |
| 03:15.25 | Shirik | and yeah, never gonna happeen |
| 03:15.28 | Lunessa | Shirik - woot! |
| 03:15.28 | Nom- | Never say never. |
| 03:15.40 | Shirik | I'm impressed how easy that was |
| 03:15.50 | Shirik | only 328 lines for the bare bones |
| 03:15.53 | Shirik | now I need to make it pretty |
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| 03:16.33 | Shirik | time to commit and go to burger king :D |
| 03:16.53 | Nom- | I might take a crack at writing a decent addon updated in Perl |
| 03:16.55 | Lunessa | You had to mention food, didn't you. CURSE YOU! |
| 03:17.05 | Shirik | oh, I don't go to curse really, I don't like the site |
| 03:17.07 | Shirik | wowinterface please |
| 03:17.08 | Nom- | I've got a copy of the ActiveState PDK now, so I can make an installer and everything :) |
| 03:17.40 | Lunessa | Then I can't twirl my mustachios and cackle insanely... |
| 03:18.41 | Shirik | for those curious: http://wowi.pastey.net/53297-3s9h |
| 03:18.54 | Shirik | (not fully tested nor implemented, but interesting) |
| 03:20.37 | Nom- | LOL Telstra is funny |
| 03:20.39 | Shirik | crap |
| 03:20.42 | Shirik | I forgot "local" |
| 03:20.42 | Shirik | gha |
| 03:20.47 | Shirik | I made a global function T_T |
| 03:20.50 | Nom- | You can order an 'icecream residential' phone service |
| 03:20.55 | Nom- | or a 'walnut residential' |
| 03:21.01 | Nom- | in their production ordering system |
| 03:23.10 | Shirik | hey cool |
| 03:23.12 | Shirik | there's a lua debugger now |
| 03:23.14 | Shirik | rici designed |
| 03:23.22 | Shirik | doesn't have the wow apis, of course, but interesting |
| 03:23.52 | Karrion | Nom-: yeah but either way they'll actually give you a boiled cabbage service |
| 03:25.32 | Nom- | heh |
| 03:25.42 | Shirik | time for food |
| 03:25.43 | Shirik | bbl |
| 03:25.47 | Nom- | mmm food |
| 03:25.56 | Nom- | 11:25...probably a bit early for me |
| 03:25.58 | Shirik|Fooding | Lunessa: foooooooooooood |
| 03:26.05 | Shirik|Fooding | burger king even! |
| 03:26.23 | Lunessa | Shirik I shall not forget this perfidy! |
| 03:26.36 | Shirik|Fooding | I intend to get a chicken sandwich, king size with a coke (no tomato), a side of onion rings, and a hershey pie |
| 03:26.43 | Shirik|Fooding | and eat it in front of you |
| 03:26.53 | Nom- | ffs it's not a sandwich |
| 03:27.01 | Nom- | It's a burger dagnabbit |
| 03:27.02 | Shirik|Fooding | no |
| 03:27.09 | Shirik|Fooding | it's a feast |
| 03:27.10 | Shirik|Fooding | is what it is |
| 03:27.11 | Shirik|Fooding | :D |
| 03:27.16 | Shirik|Fooding | seriously /afk |
| 03:27.21 | Lunessa | I will have to go to the king of burgers myself now... if they're still open at 11pm... |
| 03:27.26 | Shirik|Fooding | they should be |
| 03:27.32 | Shirik|Fooding | I'm pretty sure ... hoping ... mine's open until 12 |
| 03:27.37 | Nom- | I hate people who call burgers sandwiches |
| 03:27.44 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | "I IS PEWPEW Mindblast WHEN U IS PRESIN 5" - Guillotine |
| 03:28.16 | Lunessa | ok... I'm out. Time to go home. |
| 03:28.19 | Guillotine | yay! my first appearance in the topic :D |
| 03:28.32 | Cairenn|afk | hi hi |
| 03:28.41 | Cairenn|afk | we losedededed :( |
| 03:28.46 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=chatzill@129.7.94.13) |
| 03:28.57 | Nom- | at what? |
| 03:29.20 | Cairenn|afk | Stanley Cup :( |
| 03:29.26 | Cairenn|afk | stupid ducks won |
| 03:29.50 | Nom- | Were there any broken limbs or dislodged teeth to the other side ? |
| 03:30.04 | Nom- | Coz it's not really a loss if you inflict bodily harm |
| 03:30.05 | Cairenn|afk | nope, boring game overall |
| 03:30.11 | Karrion | food needed here too |
| 03:30.50 | Guillotine | Cairenn: I know, it was awesome, wasn't it? GO DUCKS! |
| 03:31.01 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Guillotine!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn|afk (Cairenn|afk) |
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| 03:31.16 | Nom- | pwned |
| 03:31.21 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [Guillotine!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn|afk (Cairenn|afk) |
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| 03:31.42 | Guillotine | :( give us a break. its our first time winning |
| 03:31.42 | Cairenn|afk | anything else? |
| 03:31.47 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 03:31.50 | Cairenn|afk | *hug* |
| 03:32.36 | Cairenn|afk | you know darn well I'm just joking - if I were serious, it would've been +b ;) |
| 03:33.56 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.12 | Guillotine | I know you were joking ;) |
| 03:34.17 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 03:34.24 | Guillotine | unfortunately, I wasn't :( But at least we finally won :D |
| 03:35.14 | Guillotine | my guild is still trying to figure out who put "DUCKS WON THE STANLEY CUP! W0000000000000000000000000000000000000000T!!!" in the guild MoTD |
| 03:35.28 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:35.37 | Nom- | I can't understand what's so interesting about Ice Hockey |
| 03:35.39 | Osagasu | Lmao |
| 03:35.44 | Osagasu | Why's it matter? |
| 03:35.58 | Nom- | Aside from the occasional fight on Youtube, I find it quite boring |
| 03:36.05 | Nom- | But then I can barely stand aerial ping-pong either |
| 03:36.19 | ckknight | I love sports movies, but hate sports |
| 03:36.30 | ckknight | cause when you get down to it, sports is about the drama and struggle of the game |
| 03:36.37 | ckknight | so why not just watch the best parts in movie form? |
| 03:37.01 | Nom- | Cricket is the worst |
| 03:37.07 | Nom- | I don't mind watching the highlights in the news |
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| 03:37.22 | Nom- | But my god...sitting there for 52 overs...i'd go bored out of my mind |
| 03:37.54 | Nom- | Let alone a test match |
| 03:38.15 | Nom- | I guess that's why Beer + Mates + Sports = Win |
| 03:38.17 | Cairenn|afk | 52 overs? |
| 03:38.20 | Nom- | Coz you don't have to watch |
| 03:38.20 | Guillotine | I like watching highlights in football and basketball. Hockey is the only one I can stand watching the entire thing of though |
| 03:38.40 | Nom- | Cairenn|afk: Cricket... 52 overs x 6 balls each... as in you watch them bowl (at least) 312 times |
| 03:38.47 | ckknight | what is good is a Cubs game |
| 03:38.47 | Nom- | That's per side |
| 03:38.48 | Cairenn|afk | ah |
| 03:38.58 | ckknight | you know they're gonna lose, so the game doesn't matter |
| 03:39.02 | ckknight | you're there for the experience |
| 03:39.07 | Nom- | That's a one day too |
| 03:39.13 | ckknight | sitting in the stands, drinking beer, eating hot dogs, hanging out with friends |
| 03:39.22 | Nom- | Imagine that repeated for 3 or 5 days in a test match :( |
| 03:39.37 | Nom- | Almost as bad as golf |
| 03:39.38 | Guillotine | woohoo! my script is now recursive :D Scans every level 65+ (number configurable) who is either in an arena team or in a guild with someone in an arena team |
| 03:40.03 | Nom- | meh, i should join an arena team |
| 03:40.18 | Nom- | probably a 3 or 5 man...i'd be useless in 1v1 |
| 03:40.34 | Nom- | oh its 1, 2 or 3 isn't it? so probably a 3v3 |
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| 03:41.54 | Antiar1 | Quick, how do I extend the log range? |
| 03:42.08 | Antiar1 | Nevermind |
| 03:42.27 | ckknight | Nom-: 2, 3, 5 |
| 03:46.39 | MentalPower | Whats the WoWWiki channel? |
| 03:47.46 | Kaydeethree | #wowwiki |
| 03:50.27 | Grissom | going to a game with friends isn't about the game it's about the experience...watching sports on tv is just defeating the purpose not to mention boring |
| 03:53.02 | Antiar1 | Man, I really, really, really hate when we lose a tank on Gruul |
| 03:53.11 | Antiar1 | I was sustaining nearly 900 DPS and at a Hurtful. |
| 03:53.14 | Antiar1 | ate* |
| 03:53.27 | Shirik | 23:31:36 » Guillotine was kicked by Cairenn|afk ‹Cairenn|afk› |
| 03:53.28 | Shirik | cold |
| 03:53.37 | Shirik | hey! |
| 03:53.39 | Shirik | I'm in Florida |
| 03:53.43 | Shirik | you don't like the ducks? |
| 03:53.53 | Shirik | wait ducks are california aren't they |
| 03:53.57 | Cairenn|afk | yes |
| 03:54.00 | Cairenn|afk | Anaheim |
| 03:54.09 | Shirik | meh |
| 03:54.12 | Shirik | they hade 3 movies about them |
| 03:54.13 | Shirik | 3! |
| 03:54.17 | Shirik | that means they must be awesome |
| 03:54.20 | Cairenn|afk | my team is RedWings |
| 03:54.22 | Shirik | btw http://www.anaheimducks.com/ |
| 03:54.29 | Shirik | "service unavailable" |
| 03:54.29 | Shirik | ha |
| 03:54.36 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, there's a surprise |
| 03:54.37 | Cairenn|afk | not |
| 03:54.57 | Shirik | it's because so many people like them |
| 03:55.00 | Shirik | their site is overloaded with traffic |
| 03:55.04 | Shirik | can you say that about the red wings? |
| 03:55.10 | Cairenn|afk | it's because they just won the Stanley Cup, duh |
| 03:55.35 | Shirik | I used to play hockey |
| 03:55.37 | Shirik | I wish I still did |
| 03:56.05 | Tain | One of these days Ottawa will get a professional hockey team. |
| 03:56.23 | Shirik | at least you guys have good hockey teams |
| 03:56.24 | Shirik | we used to |
| 03:56.28 | Shirik | and then they went way downhill |
| 03:56.33 | Shirik | ever since we got that damn MCI center |
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| 04:08.09 | Kaydeethree | har for farming with a flask up after raid |
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| 04:19.11 | Thunder_Child | clad|sleep: Interface\addons\LightHeaded\LightHeaded.lua:130:attempt to concarenate local 'qid' (a nill value) |
| 04:19.32 | Thunder_Child | s/concarenate/concatenate/ |
| 04:20.18 | Thunder_Child | happens for Clefthoof Mastery (it's the last in the series) |
| 04:20.50 | ckknight | clad|sleep: is lightheaded on googlecode? |
| 04:21.08 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 04:21.38 | kergoth | ckknight, yes |
| 04:21.59 | kergoth | http://wow-lightheaded.googlecode.com/svn is its svn |
| 04:27.47 | Thunder_Child | what is Threat-1.0 part of? |
| 04:28.29 | Kaydeethree | Omen? |
| 04:28.39 | Thunder_Child | i dont have that installed |
| 04:28.57 | Thunder_Child | nor pitbull assessment or violation |
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| 04:30.06 | kergoth | ~listvalues Omen |
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| 04:36.54 | Zeal | O_o |
| 04:37.01 | Shirik | o.o |
| 04:38.30 | Corrodias | i can't find ANY source on what hunter trap resist rates are |
| 04:38.40 | Zeal | out of interest, is anyone else having issues with the default raid ui, when you click on the raid member's target, it says x addon used protected function (specially, TargetUnit() on mouseip), with the addon always being random and an addon that doesn't even touch the raid ui? :S |
| 04:38.42 | Corrodias | according to patch 1.7, it's based on the "hunter's skill", but doesn't say WHAT skill |
| 04:38.42 | Shirik | I'd say |
| 04:38.58 | Shirik | likely agility |
| 04:39.00 | ckknight | Corrodias: skillz |
| 04:39.02 | Shirik | or potentially intellect |
| 04:39.08 | Shirik | and for me it's about 2% |
| 04:39.09 | pastamancer | Zeal: which addon is it blaming? |
| 04:39.14 | Shirik | no |
| 04:39.16 | Shirik | probably more like |
| 04:39.19 | Shirik | 6% |
| 04:39.24 | Shirik | against a 70 |
| 04:39.44 | Corrodias | *shrug* |
| 04:39.53 | Corrodias | i can't plan my talents around guesses |
| 04:39.54 | pastamancer | I'll bet it's the same as spell resists |
| 04:40.18 | Zeal | in order, it's blamed TextStatusBar (default ui), CT_RA, DamageMeters, AtlasLoot, My Addon. i've tried with all those addons disabled fyi, and it will still always blame something. |
| 04:40.20 | Corrodias | it's just odd that with the players' love of numbers and statistics, wowwiki has nothing to say on this subject |
| 04:40.34 | Shirik | Zeal: That's how a taint chain works |
| 04:40.50 | Shirik | keep going |
| 04:41.06 | Zeal | well i asked others, they've had it blaming perl too |
| 04:41.10 | pastamancer | Zeal: yeah, something is getting all tainty |
| 04:41.17 | Zeal | : / |
| 04:41.20 | pastamancer | are you usinig trinity or an old version of clearfont? |
| 04:41.23 | Shirik | then try disabling perl |
| 04:41.24 | Zeal | nope |
| 04:41.32 | Zeal | yeah, i don't use perl |
| 04:41.35 | Shirik | ah |
| 04:41.39 | Shirik | what is the issue? |
| 04:41.42 | Shirik | can you give me a stack trace? |
| 04:41.55 | Zeal | one sec, i need to log back in, lol. |
| 04:49.44 | Zeal | http://wowi.pastey.net/53360 there, dunno if that helps :S |
| 04:51.23 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:51.27 | Shirik | that's.. |
| 04:51.56 | Zeal | ? |
| 04:52.01 | Shirik | doesn't it give you a line number? |
| 04:52.11 | Zeal | nope |
| 04:52.38 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:52.39 | Shirik | line 1 |
| 04:52.40 | Shirik | wtf |
| 04:52.44 | Shirik | what are you trying to do>? |
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| 04:54.04 | Zeal | i know it originates from line 545 in Blizzard_RaidUI.xml |
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| 04:54.12 | Shirik | how do you know that? |
| 04:54.18 | Zeal | i'm not trying to do aynthing, this is nothing to do with me |
| 04:54.25 | Shirik | well when does the error appear? |
| 04:54.47 | Zeal | i said, when you click on the target of a raid member in the default raid ui. |
| 04:55.05 | Shirik | yeah, like I said, I didn't know what you're trying to do because I've been away |
| 04:55.13 | Zeal | just an error i discovered is all. |
| 04:55.16 | Shirik | on the target of a raid member |
| 04:55.17 | Corrodias | raid member's target dropdown menu |
| 04:55.31 | Shirik | I'm still confused where you're clicking |
| 04:55.38 | Corrodias | i don't use the default ui. i didn't know they showed raid targets |
| 04:55.49 | krka | Shirik: were you wondering about hash / array part stuff earlier? |
| 04:55.57 | Shirik | no I was explaining it :P |
| 04:56.03 | krka | oh i see |
| 04:56.11 | Shirik | and I mentioned that something was undefined |
| 04:56.20 | Shirik | and stated that while the lua interpreter always does it one way |
| 04:56.32 | Shirik | since it's undefined, technically your interpreter could do it otherwise |
| 04:56.46 | Zeal | under each person's mana bar, on the default raidui, it shows a health bar and name for the target of that member. if you click it, on mouseup, the raid ui does TargetUnit();. atm, it's producing taint erros for soem reason. |
| 04:56.46 | krka | no reason to define exactly how to store stuff behind the scenes |
| 04:56.53 | Shirik | Zeal: Sinec when? |
| 04:57.13 | Shirik | I never seen that :/ |
| 04:57.27 | Zeal | it's an option in the right click menu of the default raid ui. |
| 04:57.33 | Shirik | hm |
| 04:57.48 | Shirik | well in any case |
| 04:57.48 | Zeal | Show Target, and thne also Show Target of Target shows up. |
| 04:57.50 | Thrae | IRC is full of a bunch of bastards, bastard nerds, horny nerds, jerks, idiots, elitists, pedophiles, FBI agents, and 1 woman. |
| 04:57.51 | Shirik | that error message is very jacked up |
| 04:58.08 | Shirik | it says it's on a "string, line 1" |
| 04:58.12 | Shirik | which would imply one of two things |
| 04:58.14 | Shirik | a /script |
| 04:58.16 | Shirik | or a loadstring() |
| 04:58.22 | Zeal | weird |
| 04:58.30 | Zeal | well i'm blaming blizz tbh. |
| 04:58.32 | Corrodias | we smacked the curator and chess event, but couldn't handle illhoof |
| 04:59.06 | Corrodias | but our strategy was messed up |
| 04:59.36 | pastamancer | not getting chains fast enough, or people not focusing on the imp? |
| 05:00.00 | Corrodias | we were spread out, and the imps weren't all getting hit by the Seed of Corruption from the two warlocks |
| 05:00.05 | Shirik | we never focus on the imp :P |
| 05:00.08 | Kaydeethree | don't focus on the imp... just let seed/aoe damage kill him |
| 05:00.26 | Corrodias | next time we're clumping around the candles |
| 05:00.29 | pastamancer | my group focuses on the imp and switches to ilhoof only during the weakness |
| 05:00.35 | Zeal | with no addon's loaded, no error.. so 1by1 load addons, fun. |
| 05:00.47 | Shirik | Zeal: Stupid question |
| 05:00.48 | Corrodias | not one by one. do half at a time |
| 05:00.53 | Shirik | you haven't updated the TOCs of any of your addons, have you? |
| 05:01.08 | Shirik | manually? |
| 05:01.10 | Zeal | nope, but i am loading out of date. |
| 05:01.17 | Shirik | that shouldn't matter |
| 05:01.17 | krka | fyi, my vm only stores stuff as hashes - i have no array part |
| 05:01.23 | Shirik | but it really looks like a pre 2.0 style hook |
| 05:01.45 | Shirik | which will likely imply a different value for # |
| 05:02.04 | krka | not really |
| 05:02.11 | krka | # is independent of how it's stored |
| 05:02.19 | Shirik | well let's take this example |
| 05:02.29 | Shirik | {[1] = 1, [2] = 2, [8] = 8} |
| 05:02.34 | krka | in fact, my #-algorithm doesnt even know how its stored |
| 05:02.41 | Shirik | would that return 3? |
| 05:02.45 | krka | no, 2 |
| 05:02.52 | Shirik | what about |
| 05:02.54 | krka | both in regular lua and my lua |
| 05:02.57 | Shirik | {[1] = 1, [2] = 2, [4] = 4, [8] = 8} |
| 05:03.28 | krka | ah, that actually returns 8 in standard lua |
| 05:03.30 | Shirik | eh, that may be a bad example |
| 05:03.31 | Shirik | ya |
| 05:03.36 | Shirik | change the 8 to 9 |
| 05:03.36 | krka | basically, lua does a binary search i think |
| 05:03.38 | Shirik | I believe it should be 4 |
| 05:03.41 | Shirik | right |
| 05:03.49 | krka | so it's really not defined for that type of cases |
| 05:03.57 | krka | why should it be 4? |
| 05:04.05 | Shirik | 1,2,4 is 2^2 |
| 05:04.06 | krka | it really should be 2 |
| 05:04.17 | Shirik | 2^3 is 8 which is missing |
| 05:04.21 | Shirik | let me double check |
| 05:04.41 | krka | the only meaningful interpretation of # is the lowest index, such that all indices below it are non-nil |
| 05:04.46 | Shirik | ya |
| 05:04.50 | krka | lua sacrifices that for speed |
| 05:04.54 | Shirik | which is what I told him |
| 05:05.02 | krka | but it's correct for sanely built arrays |
| 05:05.06 | Shirik | and the reason for commenting on the differences |
| 05:05.11 | Shirik | is to prove why you have to treat it as undefined |
| 05:05.21 | krka | right |
| 05:05.39 | krka | still, it's not something that's related to array part / hash part at all |
| 05:05.44 | Shirik | > t = {[1] = 1, [2] = 2, [4] = 4, [9] = 9}; print(#t) |
| 05:05.44 | Shirik | 4 |
| 05:05.53 | Shirik | I'm fairly certain [4] = 4 is in the array part |
| 05:05.55 | Corrodias | i just wish i had about 27 more talent points at 70 than i will actually have, for my hunter |
| 05:05.55 | Shirik | is that incorrect? |
| 05:05.59 | krka | no that's correct |
| 05:06.10 | Corrodias | even another 2 would be great, though... |
| 05:06.24 | krka | for luas own implementation, t[#t] will always be inside the array part |
| 05:06.39 | krka | and lua does in fact take advantage of that |
| 05:06.50 | krka | but it's not something that's generally required for the #-definition |
| 05:07.06 | Shirik | right |
| 05:07.15 | Shirik | I mean, I only rely on # when I'm dealing with straight arrays |
| 05:07.29 | Shirik | I take care not to skip indices if I'm relying on it |
| 05:07.35 | krka | makes sense |
| 05:07.37 | Shirik | and that's evident in my patcher :) |
| 05:07.45 | Shirik | which forces you to have all patches in order, no skipping |
| 05:10.18 | Zeal | ok.. i have really bad news.. this is looking to be a problem with ace2 libraries |
| 05:10.32 | Shirik | do you have the latest? |
| 05:10.47 | Shirik | (and really, that's not bad news for me :P ) |
| 05:11.10 | Zeal | beleive so. so far, first Culprit is VanasKoS, the onyl ace2 i currently have turned on atm. |
| 05:11.20 | Shirik | what is that? |
| 05:12.52 | Iriel | You can use maxn if you want the guarantee # doesn't give you |
| 05:13.19 | Shirik | what guarantee? |
| 05:13.34 | Iriel | that there aren't any indices higher with non-nil values |
| 05:13.49 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:13.58 | Shirik | 01:05:58 ‹Shirik› > t = {[1] = 1, [2] = 2, [4] = 4, [9] = 9}; print(#t) |
| 05:13.58 | Shirik | 01:05:58 ‹Shirik› 4 |
| 05:14.07 | Shirik | or are you not calling [9] an index? |
| 05:14.13 | Iriel | I was just commenting on krka's comment |
| 05:14.31 | Shirik | oh oh |
| 05:14.32 | Iriel | That #table returns *AN* index such that the value is non-nil and the one above is nil. |
| 05:14.32 | Shirik | you mean |
| 05:14.34 | Shirik | maxn gives the guarantee |
| 05:14.49 | Shirik | ah |
| 05:14.51 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:14.52 | Shirik | I get it |
| 05:15.16 | Iriel | table.maxn (table) |
| 05:15.17 | Iriel | Returns the largest positive numerical index of the given table, or zero if the table has no positive numerical indices. (To do its job this function does a linear traversal of the whole table.) |
| 05:15.31 | Shirik | is maxn still ok to use? |
| 05:15.35 | Shirik | (not deprecated like getn?) |
| 05:15.54 | Shirik | (also that implies that maxn is slower, yes?) |
| 05:16.15 | Iriel | maxn is a 5.1 thing, just fine |
| 05:16.20 | Iriel | It's MUCH slower in most cases |
| 05:16.36 | Iriel | Bear in mind that for normal (non-sparse) arrays # works perfectly well |
| 05:16.50 | Shirik | yup |
| 05:18.54 | Iriel | Basically, internally, # is doing a binary search, whereas maxn has to do a full linear scan |
| 05:19.12 | Iriel | Bearing in mind that if you're completely within the array part of a table with no hash part, a full linear scan isn't too bad |
| 05:19.15 | Shirik | that's what I figured |
| 05:19.21 | Iriel | but once you hit 'hash' it's a bit of a pain |
| 05:19.32 | Iriel | Well, more of a pain, anyway |
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| 05:21.54 | Shirik | wb Cairenn |
| 05:22.44 | Thunder_Child | pfft, she never went away, she just wants people to think that |
| 05:23.22 | Cairenn|afk | hi hi and good night |
| 05:23.22 | Shirik | night :( |
| 05:23.22 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn |
| 05:23.22 | Iriel | Night cair |
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| 05:29.38 | Zeal | loving interest @ #wowace anyways.. now to figure out why my addon, which is not ace2, produces the error too. : / |
| 05:30.24 | Shirik | it produces the error when your addon, and only your addon, is loaded? |
| 05:32.27 | Zeal | produces the error when my addon or any ace2 addon is loaded. doesn't produce it when my addon and all ace2 addons are disabled. |
| 05:32.43 | Shirik | your addon, and not any ace2 addon |
| 05:32.44 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:32.55 | Shirik | (is your addon ace based?) |
| 05:32.55 | Zeal | yep, still then |
| 05:32.58 | Zeal | nope |
| 05:32.59 | pastamancer | yeah, it sounds like you're missing a permutation there |
| 05:33.00 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 05:33.05 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 05:33.11 | Iriel | So basically you and ace are doing the same bad thing |
| 05:33.16 | Zeal | yeah |
| 05:33.22 | Shirik | right |
| 05:33.26 | Shirik | pastey your code |
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| 05:33.32 | Shirik | I still don't understand thigs string:1 crap |
| 05:33.38 | Shirik | it should be giving a line number |
| 05:33.47 | Shirik | and I just got disconnected didn't I |
| 05:33.49 | Iriel | That's ALL of your code (including .xml files) |
| 05:33.53 | Iriel | You're still here |
| 05:33.53 | pastamancer | loadstring? |
| 05:33.58 | Zeal | x_x |
| 05:34.00 | Shirik | hm, vent and wow just crashed though :( |
| 05:34.05 | Shirik | pastamancer: That's what I guess it has to be |
| 05:34.11 | Shirik | but it doesn't make much sense :/ |
| 05:34.17 | pastamancer | *shrug* |
| 05:34.42 | Shirik | it says it's a loadstring() inside a OnClick |
| 05:34.57 | Shirik | [C]: TargetUnit() |
| 05:34.57 | Shirik | 8 [string "*:OnMouseUp"]:1: |
| 05:34.57 | Shirik | 9 [string "*:OnMouseUp"]:1 |
| 05:35.05 | Shirik | sorry, OnMouseUp |
| 05:35.25 | pastamancer | onmouseup could be macro-related |
| 05:35.28 | Shirik | and where did it get called from? |
| 05:35.30 | Shirik | perhaps |
| 05:35.36 | pastamancer | action buttons react on mouseup |
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| 05:35.40 | Iriel | A pastey would make life so much easier |
| 05:35.47 | Shirik | yes :P |
| 05:35.51 | Zeal | TargetUnit(this:GetParent().unit.."target"); is what gets called btw. for now, i'll just point out that that my addon hooks some functions from TextStatusBar, and the TextStatusBar frame is being inherited by the bar causing this. |
| 05:36.00 | Thrae | I'm pretty pastey myself. |
| 05:36.06 | Shirik | Zeal: Pastey your code :P |
| 05:36.10 | Shirik | and ... are you calling TargetUnit? |
| 05:36.15 | Zeal | no, i'm not |
| 05:36.16 | pastamancer | I'd much rather use ESP |
| 05:36.18 | Shirik | ah ok |
| 05:36.22 | Shirik | yeah pastey your code :P |
| 05:36.27 | Shirik | the hooks should be fun |
| 05:36.35 | Zeal | kk, keep i mind i fail at this.. |
| 05:36.48 | Shirik | hey |
| 05:36.50 | pastamancer | well, you're asking for help at least |
| 05:36.52 | Shirik | we all started somewhere |
| 05:36.56 | Thrae | It's a global leak. It's always a global leak. |
| 05:37.10 | pastamancer | global depends? |
| 05:37.54 | Shirik | so I'm looking back over my code |
| 05:38.02 | Shirik | and I have a coroutine.... that creates a coroutine >.> |
| 05:38.11 | pastamancer | nice |
| 05:38.13 | Shirik | I think I need to rework how this is done |
| 05:38.13 | Iriel | Nothing wrong with that |
| 05:38.32 | Iriel | at least nothing wrong with that ALONE |
| 05:38.46 | Shirik | eh, the reasoning behind it is pretty simple |
| 05:39.00 | Shirik | I have a 30s timeout, and during that timeout something may happen that needs to wait for 5s |
| 05:39.18 | Shirik | and they are independent processes |
| 05:39.42 | Shirik | I'm just afraid I'll come back to this code in a month and be like "wtf why does this work" |
| 05:39.52 | pastamancer | comment it :p |
| 05:39.54 | Zeal | lua: http://wowi.pastey.net/53383 xml: http://wowi.pastey.net/53385 |
| 05:39.57 | Iriel | I would recommend many more comments than usual |
| 05:40.01 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:40.04 | Shirik | more comments than usual... |
| 05:40.13 | pastamancer | in other words, at least one |
| 05:40.14 | Shirik | you're talking to the guy that made a 200 line comment in one of his modules -_- |
| 05:40.21 | Iriel | Especially those of the form "This may look really strange but the reason It's this way is...." variety |
| 05:40.30 | Shirik | yeah I probably should |
| 05:40.39 | Shirik | better than Cidan's "Trust me, this works, don't try to decipher it" |
| 05:40.45 | Shirik | which is floating around SyncCore.lua |
| 05:40.49 | pastamancer | -- Magic happens. |
| 05:40.53 | Shirik | rofl |
| 05:40.53 | Iriel | I beat your 200 with my 466 line comment at the top of SecureStateHeader.lua 8-) |
| 05:40.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:41.02 | Shirik | but mine has a picture! |
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| 05:41.39 | Shirik | Zeal: first things first |
| 05:41.44 | Shirik | too much code, not enoug comments |
| 05:41.46 | Shirik | ;) |
| 05:41.49 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:41.56 | Iriel | You mean, not ANY comments |
| 05:42.00 | Iriel | apart from pieces of commented out codew |
| 05:42.04 | Shirik | there's comments |
| 05:42.04 | Shirik | ya |
| 05:42.11 | Shirik | and "coming soon" |
| 05:42.12 | Iriel | Oh, no -- Coming soon |
| 05:42.13 | Iriel | real comments |
| 05:42.17 | Zeal | haha |
| 05:42.51 | Shirik | on another note |
| 05:42.56 | Shirik | thank you for not polluting the global namespace :) |
| 05:43.02 | Zeal | hehe |
| 05:43.17 | Zeal | i atleast read some of that OOP article before i started >_>; |
| 05:43.22 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 05:44.58 | Iriel | It's going to be the unit member of the parent table that's tainted |
| 05:45.18 | Zeal | *woosh* |
| 05:45.26 | Zeal | :p |
| 05:45.51 | Iriel | Which I imagine probably should be an attribute, but we'll see |
| 05:45.59 | pastamancer | creating a frame named "TargetFrame" sounds iffy |
| 05:46.28 | pastamancer | but I haven't finished reading |
| 05:46.28 | Shirik | did he create that frame? |
| 05:46.28 | Shirik | I missed that |
| 05:46.28 | Zeal | nope |
| 05:46.32 | Zeal | merley the fontstring for it |
| 05:47.09 | pastamancer | ah |
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| 05:48.23 | Iriel | WoW, there's a lot of places you can taint this |
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| 05:48.34 | Shirik | what's up with this, btw: function StatusText.Funcs.Prefix(bar, prefix, force, ...) |
| 05:48.37 | Shirik | why ... ? |
| 05:49.00 | Zeal | wowwiki recommended it >_>; |
| 05:49.07 | Zeal | cos it'd hooked |
| 05:49.10 | Shirik | is that a hook? |
| 05:49.10 | Zeal | *it's |
| 05:49.12 | Shirik | I missed that |
| 05:49.24 | Shirik | where do you hook that? |
| 05:49.29 | Shirik | (or what does it hook) |
| 05:49.42 | Zeal | line 39 |
| 05:49.49 | Shirik | oooh |
| 05:49.52 | Shirik | that's gonna be bad |
| 05:50.05 | Nom- | Hmm...what does decursive do now? |
| 05:50.08 | Zeal | oh? O_o; |
| 05:50.41 | Shirik | TextStatusBar_OnEvent = StatusText.Funcs.CVar |
| 05:50.46 | Shirik | I REALLY don't like that |
| 05:51.11 | Iriel | That's a pretty non-intuitive naming scheme for sure |
| 05:51.17 | Zeal | not really |
| 05:51.20 | Corrodias | decurrsive these days turns decursing into a whack-a-mole game |
| 05:51.31 | Shirik | Nom-: It works exactly the same as RDX |
| 05:51.39 | Shirik | you see flashing, you clikc |
| 05:51.42 | Nom- | Yah, so it does nothing that Pitbull doesn't already do |
| 05:51.43 | pastamancer | or grid :p |
| 05:51.45 | Shirik | (whack-a-mole, like Corrodias) |
| 05:51.46 | Nom- | Effectively |
| 05:51.51 | Kaydeethree | hm... looks like they're going to implement exalted-city-faction titles |
| 05:51.58 | Shirik | Zeal: Essentially |
| 05:52.01 | Shirik | you're replacing a secure function |
| 05:52.05 | Shirik | with an insecure version of it |
| 05:52.09 | Nom- | Some nitwit put Decursive on the required mods list for our guild |
| 05:52.15 | Shirik | I don't know wh... ROFL |
| 05:52.16 | Shirik | yeah |
| 05:52.16 | Nom- | I'm just going to ignore it :P |
| 05:52.16 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:52.20 | Shirik | um, anyway |
| 05:52.29 | Shirik | I don't know what that function does |
| 05:52.30 | Zeal | ofc. but it doesn't do anything that requires it to be secure, so safe afaik |
| 05:52.36 | Shirik | but OnEvent is never a good thing to insecurely hook |
| 05:52.42 | Zeal | the OnEvent merely does what mien does, nothing more. |
| 05:53.06 | Shirik | more specifically |
| 05:53.08 | Zeal | checks for cvar_updated, and then does shizzle |
| 05:53.09 | pastamancer | if you want really fun taint, fiddle with the global event variable |
| 05:53.10 | Shirik | what /is/ TextStatusBar? |
| 05:53.20 | Shirik | pastamancer: yeah that should be fun |
| 05:53.24 | Shirik | in fact |
| 05:53.25 | Zeal | it's what places text over health/mana/xp bars etc |
| 05:53.27 | Shirik | doing it right now |
| 05:53.40 | pastamancer | Shirik: AceEvent used to do that back when 2.0 was on the PTR |
| 05:53.49 | pastamancer | it got changed pretty quickly |
| 05:53.50 | Shirik | oh that must hvae been fun |
| 05:54.03 | Shirik | Zeal: And what happens when it's clicked? |
| 05:54.05 | Shirik | hrm? |
| 05:54.07 | Iriel | pastamancer: it should get restored relatively soon after you mess with it, though I dont remember if it got made taint proof |
| 05:54.08 | Shirik | ;) |
| 05:54.19 | Zeal | when what get's clicked exactly? |
| 05:54.29 | pastamancer | it used to taint just about anything in the blizzard ui that checked for event |
| 05:54.45 | Shirik | Zeal: A status bar? |
| 05:54.59 | Shirik | (be advised I'm making assumptions without looking at UI code) |
| 05:55.04 | Iriel | pastamancer: Hm, early or late 2.0? It's quite possible ti still does that, i'm trying to remember how that discussion ended up when we were trying to convince slouken to drop global events (and failing) |
| 05:55.23 | Zeal | most cases, nothing. this one in the raid ui is the first one that has soemthing set for mouse events other than enter and leave. |
| 05:55.35 | Iriel | Shirik: My slightly informed guess is that something's tainting RaidPullout_Update's execution path |
| 05:55.44 | Iriel | Shirik: Though that doesn't really narrow anything down |
| 05:56.05 | pastamancer | Iriel: pretty early |
| 05:56.26 | pastamancer | before the this -> self change in the xml OnFoo stuff |
| 05:56.42 | Shirik | Iriel/pastamancer: setmetatable(_G, {__index = function(t, k) if k == "event" then return 1; else return rawget(t, k); end end, __newindex = function(t,k,v) if k == "event" then return; else rawset(t,k,v); end end}); rawset(_G, "event", nil); |
| 05:56.49 | Thunder_Child | having to go into the lua file to change a tooltip font size is :( |
| 05:56.57 | Shirik | trying now ... |
| 05:57.01 | Iriel | Shirik: That just breaks everything |
| 05:57.15 | pastamancer | oh god |
| 05:57.19 | Shirik | oh that was fun |
| 05:57.25 | Shirik | the only thing to break was KTM ^^ |
| 05:57.35 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:57.44 | Shirik | suprisingly my combat log still works |
| 05:57.47 | Iriel | The creeping taint from that code would get most if not all of your UI soon enough |
| 05:57.55 | Shirik | right, but what it does test |
| 05:57.59 | Shirik | is addons that are using the global event! |
| 05:58.01 | Shirik | instead of a local one!! |
| 05:58.08 | pastamancer | I just like to say "creeping taint" |
| 05:58.14 | Iriel | Almost all of the blizzard UI uses the globals still |
| 05:58.19 | Shirik | yeah creeping taint is fun phrase |
| 05:58.21 | Iriel | (which is why we failed to persuade slouken to drop them) |
| 05:58.25 | Shirik | hehe |
| 05:58.35 | Shirik | interestingly enough though my combat log was not spammed with 1s |
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| 05:58.38 | Shirik | instead it worked fine |
| 05:58.41 | Zeal | so, any luck? :S |
| 05:58.49 | Thunder_Child | Yay, WIM finaly got tabed windows |
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| 05:59.13 | Shirik | 01:55:50 ‹@Iriel› Shirik: My slightly informed guess is that something's tainting RaidPullout_Update's execution path |
| 05:59.25 | Shirik | however I can't exactly tell where that would happen except... |
| 05:59.29 | Shirik | potentially that OnEvent script |
| 05:59.44 | Zeal | hm.. i'll try not hooking for a sec then. |
| 06:00.24 | Shirik | that's interesting |
| 06:00.27 | Shirik | my addon loads ok |
| 06:00.37 | Shirik | but trying to call RDXM.Patcher.Init() from /script throws an error |
| 06:01.49 | Shirik | oh I see |
| 06:01.50 | Shirik | ha |
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| 06:04.15 | Nom- | hmm... how much am i gimping myself by using a caster pet to grind (level 25 now) instead of a normal pet? |
| 06:04.24 | Shirik | as a hunter? |
| 06:04.25 | Zeal | unhooked the onevent, still happens. |
| 06:04.28 | Nom- | Yeah, hunter |
| 06:04.34 | Shirik | Zeal: do you have devtools installed? |
| 06:04.45 | Zeal | hm... nope |
| 06:04.52 | Nom- | I've got a dragonhawk from Silvermoon |
| 06:05.02 | Shirik | Nom-: BM? |
| 06:05.08 | Nom- | Yeah, BM |
| 06:05.09 | Shirik | ~devtools |
| 06:05.10 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 06:05.24 | Shirik | well I'm not the best person to ask really, I don't use my pet |
| 06:05.25 | Shirik | like at all |
| 06:05.36 | Nom- | lol why on earth not? |
| 06:05.36 | Zeal | never tried Nom-, but i probably wouldn't want to. |
| 06:05.44 | Shirik | no real purpose |
| 06:05.45 | Shirik | he sucks anyway |
| 06:05.50 | Zeal | fail Shirik :P |
| 06:05.55 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:05.57 | Shirik | hey |
| 06:05.58 | pastamancer | totally get a bear or cat |
| 06:06.02 | Shirik | I destroy others in dps, easily |
| 06:06.05 | Shirik | that's all I care about |
| 06:06.06 | pastamancer | last I checked, caster pets were pretty lame |
| 06:06.10 | Shirik | why the heck should I bother with my pet |
| 06:06.13 | Nom- | dude, my dragonhawk, who is a caster pet, can solo an equal level mob |
| 06:06.19 | Shirik | pastamancer: one nice benefit of ranged pets |
| 06:06.22 | Shirik | is they get the RAP |
| 06:06.34 | Zeal | cat+bm = top raid dps with shite gear and unpotted. >_>; |
| 06:06.40 | Shirik | ya ok |
| 06:06.45 | Shirik | whatever you say |
| 06:06.47 | Zeal | all pets get the RAP |
| 06:06.52 | Shirik | (1) I have a cat |
| 06:07.01 | Shirik | (2) BM is only good because hunters haven't the slightest clue what they're doing |
| 06:07.06 | Zeal | rofl |
| 06:07.06 | Shirik | "Oh BM is so much better DPS than MM now" |
| 06:07.07 | Zeal | suuure |
| 06:07.10 | Shirik | the reason people say that |
| 06:07.13 | Nom- | No, BM is good for grinding |
| 06:07.14 | Shirik | is because the MM tree has severely changed |
| 06:07.16 | pastamancer | what happened to wolves and their howl thingy |
| 06:07.18 | Shirik | severely. |
| 06:07.21 | Zeal | i've been BM since before the talent review :p |
| 06:07.25 | Nom- | The best reason I can think of, is because it compensates for lack of good gear |
| 06:07.27 | Shirik | And what they don't realize is that intellect is vital for marksman hunters |
| 06:07.44 | Shirik | I can personally guarantee you I would have lower DPS, including my pet, if I went BM |
| 06:07.47 | Nom- | Your pet does more DPS, so your gear can suck more |
| 06:08.16 | Nom- | Yeah, my later hunter (which i rerolled as a belf) was Marks |
| 06:08.23 | Nom- | I kept pulling off my pet lol |
| 06:08.25 | Shirik | belf hunters are hawt ^^ |
| 06:08.29 | Nom- | *last hunter |
| 06:08.32 | Shirik | chicks in mail |
| 06:08.34 | Shirik | ha |
| 06:08.43 | Shirik | I almost made my belf a hunter |
| 06:08.48 | Shirik | but I wanted a change |
| 06:09.08 | Shirik | Zeal: install that |
| 06:09.10 | Zeal | well either way, i don't have problems topping the dps when raiding in bm. and atleast one MM hunter in my guild, using his pet, with better gear, is able to atleast keep 2nd behind me. |
| 06:09.12 | Nom- | I can solo equal level elites as a hunter without my pet dieing |
| 06:09.13 | Shirik | and I'll tell you what to do with it |
| 06:09.18 | Nom- | That's as BM and the pet is caster stats |
| 06:09.44 | Shirik | Zeal: You miss two factors |
| 06:09.58 | Shirik | (1) You state "better gear" but don't state how good the gear is |
| 06:10.17 | Shirik | (2) You assume that he is geared properly. You're comparing apples to oranges |
| 06:10.24 | Shirik | BM gear is RADICALLY different from MM gear |
| 06:10.29 | Zeal | ok, i came in with dungeon set 3, and he's already in all but 1 peice of 2 4 and all epics. |
| 06:10.30 | Shirik | My intellect rivals my agility |
| 06:10.42 | Zeal | yes, he is sensible with int. |
| 06:10.49 | Zeal | and mp/5 ofc. |
| 06:10.50 | Shirik | what's his name and server? |
| 06:11.23 | Zeal | Bage, Executus. Garlthala, Executus would be me btw. |
| 06:11.35 | Zeal | EU fyi |
| 06:11.38 | Nom- | "Casters" have between 80% and 83% of the base armor of a normal pet. |
| 06:11.43 | Nom- | ah, found an article on petopia :( |
| 06:11.48 | Nom- | "Casters" have about 95% of the base health of a normal pet at low levels, but this ramps down to only 80% of normal base health at high levels. |
| 06:12.04 | kergoth | what are the most important stats for a bm hunter, vs mm? |
| 06:12.05 | Shirik | uhh |
| 06:12.12 | Shirik | what's the eu world of warcraft armory site? ^^; |
| 06:12.17 | Nom- | And they're saying pet DPS is about 80% of normal pets too :( |
| 06:12.27 | Nom- | caster pets vs normal that is |
| 06:12.27 | Shirik | kergoth: agi/stam vs AP/Int |
| 06:12.31 | Shirik | respectively |
| 06:12.40 | pastamancer | kergoth: crit is also more important for BM because of kill command |
| 06:12.40 | kergoth | ah |
| 06:13.08 | Nom- | erk look like about 150 armor and 40 health at level 25 |
| 06:13.18 | Nom- | But does't say different in DPS |
| 06:13.24 | Shirik | Corrodias: I like it |
| 06:13.36 | Shirik | Zeal: installing devtools? |
| 06:13.46 | Corrodias | most important stats for BM and MM hunters are ... similar |
| 06:14.23 | Corrodias | the BM hunter gets more out of stamina and armor as the pet gains a percentage of those, and intelligence probably isn't quite as important as it is for MM, although it's still very useful |
| 06:14.38 | Zeal | bm will get a bonus off stm, nothing else. Agi will always scale better for raiding, but RAP is more desriable as it's needed buff the pet more than agi can and make up for the lower RAP comapred to MM. They don't have the mana efficiency of the other tree's, so Int and mp/5 are still desriable, but most sensiable BM's will go for efficiency anyways, so no more than MM after TBW. |
| 06:14.52 | Shirik | "Agi will always scale better for raiding" |
| 06:14.56 | Shirik | I so disagree with that it's not even funny |
| 06:15.05 | Shirik | but ok, you're entitled to your opinions |
| 06:15.09 | Zeal | oh? |
| 06:15.11 | ckknight | compared to what? |
| 06:15.13 | Zeal | curious |
| 06:15.17 | Zeal | comapred to RAP. |
| 06:15.23 | Shirik | 1-1 sure |
| 06:15.39 | Zeal | well yeah, that's the point :P |
| 06:15.42 | Corrodias | but then attack power comes in amounts twice what you get for agility |
| 06:15.52 | Zeal | but as i said, RAP is mroe desirable anyways. |
| 06:15.59 | Shirik | only if you look at it 1-1 |
| 06:16.01 | Shirik | which you shouldn't |
| 06:16.16 | Zeal | balance ftw |
| 06:16.20 | Zeal | and yes, i'm isntalling |
| 06:16.34 | Shirik | agi+int isn't nearly as well found as ap+int |
| 06:16.37 | ckknight | what class you play, Shirik? |
| 06:16.40 | Shirik | hunter |
| 06:17.23 | Shirik | take the T4 shoulders, for example |
| 06:17.26 | Shirik | they have zero agility |
| 06:17.46 | Shirik | what do they have? 23 int (with a 3 socket bonus) 44 AP, 5 mp/5 and 19 crit raiting |
| 06:17.57 | Shirik | (and 23 stamina but I don't give a damn about that) |
| 06:18.00 | Corrodias | ugh, bongos looks like a pain to configure as i expected. frown. |
| 06:18.22 | Shirik | also |
| 06:18.23 | kergoth | bongos seemed like one of the easier to configure bar addons from what i've seen of it |
| 06:18.25 | Zeal | i onyl use bongos stats, lol |
| 06:18.25 | Shirik | eu armory site sucks :P |
| 06:18.36 | Shirik | at least in the US it does |
| 06:18.36 | Zeal | bars, i'm using bt3 |
| 06:18.39 | Nom- | lol kergoth |
| 06:18.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. After using FlexBar in it's prime, I've never found a button mod that worked for me. |
| 06:18.43 | Corrodias | well, for bar addons, yeah |
| 06:18.48 | Shirik | kergoth: I totally agree |
| 06:18.55 | Nom- | kergoth: You've never tried configuring Bartender3 then, i'm guessing |
| 06:18.58 | ckknight | I play a pally |
| 06:19.00 | Corrodias | the default UI is very easy to configure because it can barely be configured at all |
| 06:19.03 | kergoth | i've used bt3 for like a year. |
| 06:19.05 | Shirik | Nom-: I haven't either, what's it like? |
| 06:19.13 | Nom- | Bongos was good for about 1.5 weeks after the release of 2.0, then it became too complicated |
| 06:19.18 | Shirik | Corrodias: lol |
| 06:19.20 | kergoth | and it's farmore annoying to set up, particularly for keybinds |
| 06:19.32 | kergoth | imo anyway |
| 06:19.38 | Shirik | Nom-: Unfortunately |
| 06:19.41 | Shirik | that's how many addons work |
| 06:19.42 | Corrodias | i like the default, really. bongos has its own pet bar, though, which is somewhat attractive |
| 06:19.46 | Shirik | they start out as something to do one simple thing |
| 06:19.50 | Shirik | and then one feature request comes in |
| 06:19.52 | Shirik | and then another |
| 06:19.54 | Shirik | and another |
| 06:19.57 | kergoth | feature creep ftl |
| 06:20.02 | Nom- | Bartender3 has been quite simple from the start, and still is... But then I don't do much fancy stuff |
| 06:20.07 | Shirik | then everyone decides to move to another addon because it's easier to use |
| 06:20.12 | Shirik | and it does one simple thing |
| 06:20.15 | Shirik | then one feature request comes in |
| 06:20.18 | Shirik | then another |
| 06:20.19 | Shirik | etc. |
| 06:20.22 | Nom- | I just set the scale to 0.8, position them all in one big group, and use cyCircled for styles |
| 06:20.42 | Shirik | also |
| 06:20.44 | Thunder_Child | it would be nice if cycircled didnt reset after a reload though |
| 06:20.48 | Shirik | I have no way to test this handshaking protocol T_T |
| 06:20.52 | Shirik | I can't think of an easy way to do it myself |
| 06:20.59 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: Reset? |
| 06:21.11 | Thunder_Child | yes, always resets to a base skin |
| 06:21.12 | Nom- | I just use the default circle mode though, so I wouldn't know if it changes styles |
| 06:21.19 | Shirik | ckknight: Just for the record I also play a priest |
| 06:21.20 | Shirik | 66 though |
| 06:21.25 | Zeal | ok, so Shirik, what now? |
| 06:21.28 | Shirik | ok! |
| 06:21.31 | Shirik | first things first |
| 06:21.37 | Zeal | Nom-, what skin do you use? :P |
| 06:21.43 | Shirik | let's do the basics |
| 06:21.51 | ckknight | I just dinged 35 |
| 06:21.52 | ckknight | bam! |
| 06:21.55 | Shirik | do a /dump issecurevariable("TargetFrame") |
| 06:22.00 | Nom- | The default, circled |
| 06:22.06 | Zeal | Serenity? |
| 06:22.14 | Nom- | I dunno, whatever the default is :P |
| 06:22.17 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:22.25 | Zeal | think that's default. |
| 06:22.33 | Zeal | get Vol or GoldOrbs tbh ;) |
| 06:22.56 | Zeal | [1]=1 |
| 06:23.02 | Shirik | ok good |
| 06:23.04 | Thunder_Child | i use litestep, keeps reseting back to the origional each time though :( |
| 06:23.21 | Zeal | weird :s |
| 06:23.25 | Shirik | now for the fun part |
| 06:23.33 | Zeal | well a cyCircled2 is coming. |
| 06:23.45 | Thunder_Child | eta? |
| 06:24.03 | Zeal | dunno, author's a bit busy. done when it's done really :p |
| 06:24.11 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok |
| 06:24.18 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=29085 <-- that has agi |
| 06:24.19 | Shirik | Zeal: Do you still have that code commented out? |
| 06:24.30 | Zeal | which? the onevent hook? |
| 06:24.38 | Shirik | Nom- for the record, it has an equivalent amount of intellect :P |
| 06:24.42 | Shirik | Zeal: Yea |
| 06:24.58 | Nom- | yeah, hunters need int |
| 06:25.00 | Zeal | aye, i do. |
| 06:25.01 | Nom- | Never said they didn't |
| 06:25.03 | Corrodias | it also has attack power |
| 06:25.08 | Corrodias | what are we debating? |
| 06:25.11 | Nom- | After all, int = more mana per 5 |
| 06:25.14 | Shirik | tbh I don't really know |
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| 06:25.19 | Shirik | Nom- it means a lot more than that to me ;) |
| 06:25.21 | Shirik | but yeah |
| 06:25.41 | Shirik | Zeal: Ok uncomment it and then reload your UI real quick |
| 06:25.50 | Nom- | If nothing else, more int means you last longer in a fight, and can pew pew more |
| 06:26.10 | Nom- | That's as good reason as any to get lots of int :) |
| 06:26.36 | Zeal | kk, done |
| 06:26.43 | Nom- | i do like the new WoW item database, if only it wasn't so slow :( |
| 06:26.58 | Zeal | annoying thing is money can offset mana.. ¬_¬ |
| 06:27.22 | Shirik | ow |
| 06:27.24 | Corrodias | you can't pay the mobs to die |
| 06:27.30 | Shirik | DevTools_Dump(RDXM) sucks -_- |
| 06:27.51 | Zeal | you can pay for lots and lots of mana pots :P |
| 06:28.08 | Shirik | ok Zeal |
| 06:28.10 | Nom- | awwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 06:28.11 | Shirik | first the easy stuff |
| 06:28.18 | Corrodias | well, dude, if you are raiding without mana pots, you're just not much of a raider |
| 06:28.18 | Nom- | They haven't put Illlidan's drops onto the armory page yet :( |
| 06:28.27 | Shirik | do a quick /dump issecurevariable("RaidTargetPullout_Update") |
| 06:28.31 | Corrodias | or you're a rogue or warrior |
| 06:28.45 | Zeal | oh, i raid with them, i jsut don't like having to spend the money on them when i'm using 2+ a fight. |
| 06:28.49 | Shirik | hold it that's not right |
| 06:29.04 | Zeal | kk |
| 06:29.19 | Shirik | Iriel are you still around? |
| 06:30.34 | Shirik | uh |
| 06:30.40 | Shirik | can you do a quick /dump RaidPullout_Update |
| 06:30.42 | Shirik | tell me what happens? |
| 06:30.47 | Shirik | (I don't know if I have to be in a raid for this to exist >.>) |
| 06:31.11 | Zeal | well i'm in anyways :p |
| 06:31.30 | Shirik | woosh! |
| 06:31.32 | Shirik | hey |
| 06:31.35 | Shirik | I just got the same error you're getting |
| 06:31.36 | Shirik | awesome! |
| 06:31.48 | Shirik | (I just found a raid :P ) |
| 06:31.50 | Zeal | RaidPullout_Update=<function [RaidPullout_Update]> |
| 06:31.53 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:31.59 | Shirik | ah that's good |
| 06:32.30 | Shirik | and it's secure |
| 06:32.40 | Shirik | (now that I can reproduce the error this might be a bit easier) |
| 06:32.49 | Zeal | cool |
| 06:33.12 | Shirik | hrm, do you use swatter? |
| 06:33.20 | Zeal | yeah |
| 06:34.10 | Shirik | this might be a bug in blizzard code |
| 06:34.13 | Nom- | meh |
| 06:34.20 | Zeal | hehe |
| 06:34.21 | Nom- | Karazhan doesn't have much gear for Paladin DPS :( |
| 06:34.24 | Shirik | well no you said it went away when all addons were removed ya? |
| 06:34.33 | Zeal | yeah |
| 06:34.48 | Zeal | and it still works fine when all ace2 addons and mine are disabled. |
| 06:35.18 | Shirik | type /dtframestack |
| 06:35.25 | Shirik | tell me what you see when you mouseover the target thingy |
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| 06:36.04 | Zeal | tha'ts alot to type, what exactly you want? :P |
| 06:36.12 | Shirik | well, basically |
| 06:36.19 | Shirik | run a /dump issecurevariable("...") on each of those |
| 06:36.27 | Shirik | one of those (should) be insecure |
| 06:38.24 | Zeal | all secure |
| 06:38.30 | Shirik | I really hate that error message |
| 06:38.34 | Zeal | rofl |
| 06:38.34 | Shirik | I want to know wtf is going on with it >.> |
| 06:38.38 | Shirik | it has to generate from somewhere! |
| 06:39.03 | Corrodias | i'd like to see an addon that does something so simple as to replace the pet bar |
| 06:39.23 | Corrodias | i mentioned this, yet the universe has not produced it for me |
| 06:39.43 | Corrodias | those state headers are nasty, though, so i don't know if anybody can truly figure something like that out |
| 06:39.45 | Zeal | replace it with what? |
| 06:39.50 | Corrodias | one that works |
| 06:40.03 | Zeal | yours doesn't work? :S |
| 06:40.25 | Corrodias | almost all the time it works, although it never Shows during combat |
| 06:40.36 | Corrodias | some other people have issues with it sometimes not showing even out of combat |
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| 06:40.42 | Zeal | must say, default ui, i get plenty of issues with the bar not appearing when it should. but i use bt3 for it now, no problems at all. |
| 06:41.13 | Zeal | case of blame blizzard |
| 06:41.22 | Corrodias | indeed, they know of the bug but haven't fixed it |
| 06:41.32 | Corrodias | i just don't want to replace all my action bars because i rather like how they work |
| 06:42.24 | Zeal | think you could jsut replace the pet one with soem addons.. they can't all be lame like bt3 and hide the main bar without asking :s |
| 06:43.08 | Zeal | any luck Shirik? |
| 06:43.15 | Shirik | still poking stuff |
| 06:43.54 | Zeal | kk. i have limited time with my test slaves is all :p |
| 06:44.17 | Shirik | ha |
| 06:44.29 | Shirik | tbh I'm kinda lost |
| 06:44.33 | Shirik | that error message is a pita |
| 06:45.40 | Zeal | indeed it is |
| 06:45.58 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:46.00 | Shirik | ahhh |
| 06:46.02 | Shirik | wait |
| 06:46.23 | Shirik | do you have that pastey again? |
| 06:46.32 | Zeal | of the original error? |
| 06:46.40 | Zeal | or my code? |
| 06:47.36 | Shirik | your code |
| 06:47.57 | Shirik | stupid question, you're only running with your addon right now, right? |
| 06:48.07 | Zeal | nope |
| 06:48.11 | Shirik | what else? |
| 06:48.18 | Zeal | lots of non-ace2 stuff. |
| 06:48.25 | Shirik | (when testing something like this you'er really better off running with ONLY your addon) |
| 06:48.42 | Shirik | no matter how isolated you think you have it |
| 06:48.50 | Zeal | kk, will try that too |
| 06:49.07 | Zeal | http://wowi.pastey.net/53383 |
| 06:49.37 | Shirik | do a /dump issecurevariable"RaidPullout_OnUpdate" |
| 06:53.01 | Shirik | real quick do me a favor |
| 06:53.06 | Shirik | comment out lines 41-44 |
| 06:53.27 | Zeal | was secure btw, and will do so now. |
| 06:53.37 | Shirik | I think I finally see it |
| 06:53.42 | Shirik | and you're messing with stuff you really shouldn't be |
| 06:55.50 | Zeal | yeah, no error with those out |
| 06:55.57 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:56.00 | Shirik | now let's bring it down a bit |
| 06:56.05 | Shirik | try just these two |
| 06:56.08 | Shirik | (I think they'er both bad) |
| 06:56.17 | Zeal | prefix+suffix = bad :P |
| 06:56.22 | Shirik | 43 |
| 06:56.23 | Shirik | and |
| 06:56.23 | Shirik | ya |
| 06:56.52 | Zeal | which are 2 i can't really live without.. >_> |
| 06:57.00 | Shirik | there are workarounds ;) |
| 06:57.09 | Shirik | you're just doing this the wrong way |
| 06:57.18 | Corrodias | requesting permission to physically injure people who grab a bunch of addons with a common word in the title and release it as "their compilation" |
| 06:57.32 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:57.35 | Shirik | Corrodias: Granted |
| 06:58.07 | Zeal | suggested work arounds? cos i started desprately avoiding having to hook, tried several methods |
| 06:58.14 | Shirik | we'll get there |
| 06:58.17 | Shirik | let's make sure I'm right first |
| 06:58.29 | Zeal | the biggest problem, was that prefix is reset by the default ui for mana bars on every update.. |
| 06:58.36 | Shirik | (as I continue to read the blizzard code) |
| 06:58.40 | Zeal | kk |
| 06:58.49 | Shirik | actually suffix might be ok |
| 06:58.54 | Shirik | but first try commenting them both out |
| 06:59.02 | Shirik | if that works, release suffix and see if it's just prefix causing the problem |
| 06:59.28 | Shirik | ack! |
| 06:59.32 | Shirik | my prism task monitor disappeared! |
| 07:00.26 | Zeal | ok, suffix is safe |
| 07:00.30 | Zeal | prefix definitely isn;t |
| 07:00.35 | Shirik | ok so |
| 07:00.41 | Zeal | and one of event/update isn't |
| 07:00.41 | Shirik | with just prefix commented out |
| 07:00.43 | Shirik | we have the problem |
| 07:00.46 | Shirik | oh? |
| 07:00.50 | Zeal | aye |
| 07:00.52 | Zeal | checking now |
| 07:00.54 | Shirik | well we already know event is ok |
| 07:00.58 | Shirik | well |
| 07:01.00 | Shirik | I guess we don't |
| 07:01.39 | Shirik | in function StatusText.Funcs.Update(bar, ...) |
| 07:01.43 | Shirik | where did unitID come from? |
| 07:02.28 | Zeal | both event and update are bad too. |
| 07:02.50 | Zeal | unitID? erm beleive it's set under the frame as frame.unitID :S |
| 07:03.18 | Zeal | oh.. erm yeah, that's my own thing |
| 07:03.24 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:03.34 | Zeal | that's just setting the identifier based on the name of the frame |
| 07:03.58 | Zeal | so if it;s the target frame, the unit i want info from would be "target" |
| 07:04.32 | Shirik | also what is isZero ? |
| 07:04.40 | Shirik | that's not in the blizzard code I'm reading either |
| 07:04.52 | Zeal | i dunno tbh, and it is in the blizz code, tha'ts where i got it from :S |
| 07:04.59 | Shirik | yeah I figured that much |
| 07:05.01 | Shirik | just not what I'm reading :P |
| 07:05.04 | Zeal | afaik, it's what it uses to determine if the dead text should be shown. |
| 07:05.07 | Shirik | if you don't know what it is, why are you setting it ^^ |
| 07:05.31 | Zeal | because i need to make sure i do everything the original did just so i don't break shit :P |
| 07:05.34 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:05.38 | Shirik | (1) messing with that is bad |
| 07:05.51 | Shirik | if something's wrong with function StatusText.Funcs.Update(bar, ...) |
| 07:05.52 | Shirik | that's what it is |
| 07:05.57 | Shirik | (are you sure there's a problem in it) |
| 07:06.12 | Zeal | it produced the error, yeah. |
| 07:06.19 | Zeal | and i don't really follow why it's bad. |
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| 07:06.52 | Shirik | because |
| 07:06.59 | Shirik | even if something completely unrelated uses that variable |
| 07:07.07 | Shirik | if it uses that variable, anything after that is insecure code |
| 07:07.22 | Shirik | until you exit the execution path |
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| 07:07.30 | Zeal | didn't knwo you could taint via shared vars.. :s |
| 07:07.40 | Shirik | and I can almost guarantee that variable is used on a frame that has an OnClick script |
| 07:07.53 | Shirik | and the OnClick script likely calls TargetUnit() |
| 07:07.55 | Zeal | hm.. thne how am i supposed to make sure it is set without tainting? |
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| 07:08.16 | Shirik | ok maybe this is what I'm missing |
| 07:08.20 | Shirik | what exactly are you trying to do with these hooks? |
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| 07:09.46 | Zeal | override the stupid blizz prefixing and dead text, as there's isn't customizable. and apply the functionality that player and party status bar text has to target, party pets, target of target, and eventually raid frames. |
| 07:10.23 | Shirik | ok bear with me as I don't use these raid pullout frames |
| 07:10.27 | Shirik | what is "prefixing" and "dead text" ? |
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| 07:10.46 | Zeal | prefixing = Mana, Health etc before the values |
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| 07:10.58 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:11.03 | Shirik | oh and dead just says "dead" |
| 07:11.04 | Shirik | got it |
| 07:11.16 | Shirik | so (1) you want to stop those from appearing |
| 07:11.20 | Zeal | zeroText, well it would set when a bar is zero, but blizzard don't seem to make use of it. I've changed it to use OOM, Dead etc. |
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| 07:12.07 | Shirik | so now "the functionality that player and party status bar text has" |
| 07:12.12 | Shirik | mouseover = show values? |
| 07:12.14 | Shirik | is that right? |
| 07:12.23 | Shirik | (I also don't use pure blizzard frames) |
| 07:12.24 | Zeal | that, and lockable to always show |
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| 07:12.37 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:12.43 | Shirik | you don't want to go modifying the variables though |
| 07:12.56 | Shirik | if zeroText is a fontstring, then you can do zeroText:SetText() without a problem if you like |
| 07:13.01 | Shirik | but not zeroText = ... |
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| 07:13.12 | Shirik | as for the other features, don't use the current blizzard frames |
| 07:13.12 | Zeal | it isn't a fontstring |
| 07:13.19 | Shirik | is it just a string? |
| 07:13.22 | Zeal | aye |
| 07:13.33 | Shirik | ok well something has to be using it |
| 07:13.48 | Zeal | and the idea was not having to create new frames and a new system, but build on the existing system. |
| 07:13.58 | Zeal | yeah, i'm using it :p |
| 07:14.02 | Shirik | you're not really going to be able to get around that easily |
| 07:14.12 | Shirik | Zeal: You created frame.zeroText? |
| 07:14.16 | Zeal | nope |
| 07:14.21 | Shirik | that's what I mean |
| 07:14.28 | Shirik | if blizzard created it, they must use it somewhere |
| 07:14.31 | Zeal | but it's only used by my hooked function |
| 07:14.44 | Zeal | isZero, dunno |
| 07:14.51 | Zeal | that i would imagine is used elsewhere |
| 07:14.55 | Shirik | in any case, you're going to have issues if you try to use the current frames without making more |
| 07:15.04 | Shirik | the best you can do is call functions on blizzard variables |
| 07:15.08 | Shirik | :SetText() for example |
| 07:16.14 | Shirik | which, to be honest, may be enough |
| 07:16.16 | Zeal | probably is, if i try to run alongside, is i'm constatly competing with their addons. that's how i had it setup original, and it upped memory usuage more than i would have liked, and means i had to register for lots nad ltos of events and hope that i didn't miss any.. |
| 07:16.19 | Shirik | you /can/ hook OnUpdate if you want |
| 07:16.28 | Shirik | but |
| 07:16.32 | Shirik | you HAVE to do it with hooksecurefunc() |
| 07:16.36 | Zeal | *problem is |
| 07:17.03 | Shirik | hooksecurefunc("RaidPullout_OnUpdate", function() --[[ set the text here ]] end) |
| 07:17.21 | Shirik | then you juts need to learn the names of the frames you want to set |
| 07:17.27 | Shirik | and then do teh frame:SetText("OOM") there |
| 07:17.28 | Shirik | or whatever |
| 07:17.47 | Shirik | do you know what hooksecurefunc() is? |
| 07:18.06 | Zeal | i know what it is, but not the functionality and how to make use of it? |
| 07:18.16 | Zeal | i take it i can't simply replace my hooks with that? |
| 07:18.20 | Shirik | not quite |
| 07:18.26 | Shirik | hooksecurefunc() causes a post-hook |
| 07:18.46 | Zeal | so will run their function, then mine? |
| 07:18.50 | Shirik | right |
| 07:19.06 | Shirik | however, by hooking RaidPullout_OnUpdate |
| 07:19.14 | Shirik | you guarantee that you can overwrite their changes |
| 07:19.17 | Shirik | and in a secure fashion |
| 07:19.19 | Zeal | could probably live with that, and to remain secure, start using my own vars? |
| 07:19.28 | Shirik | right, don't modify any of theirs |
| 07:19.36 | Shirik | you shouldn't really need to |
| 07:19.42 | Shirik | essentially, what you're doing right now |
| 07:19.45 | Shirik | is modifying frame.var |
| 07:19.50 | Zeal | would i be able tp create though, <frame>.prefix and remain secure? |
| 07:19.51 | Shirik | which, somewhere in blizzard code |
| 07:19.58 | Shirik | is doing frame:SetText(frame.var) |
| 07:20.10 | Shirik | instead, you can just do the frame:SetText("texT") yourself without causing an issue |
| 07:20.21 | Shirik | Zeal: in most cases, yes |
| 07:20.26 | Zeal | well, the only place it would be doing it is the update function i already hooked, but yeay :P |
| 07:20.29 | Shirik | so long as you're not using some variable that blizzard uses |
| 07:21.47 | Zeal | ok |
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| 07:22.00 | Zeal | i'll give that a go then. |
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| 07:24.51 | Zeal | will i be able to atleast get blizz's vars? |
| 07:25.02 | Zeal | jsut no set? |
| 07:25.03 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 07:25.12 | Shirik | it's when they start using stuff that you gave them |
| 07:25.14 | Shirik | that's an issue |
| 07:25.28 | Shirik | think about it |
| 07:25.32 | Shirik | CastSpellByName() |
| 07:25.41 | Shirik | just take the variable they're using to execute that |
| 07:25.44 | Shirik | set it to whatever you want |
| 07:25.46 | Shirik | dynamic casting! |
| 07:25.56 | Shirik | this is why tainting exists |
| 07:26.08 | Zeal | i see |
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| 07:27.32 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:27.33 | Nom- | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Athe |
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| 07:29.28 | Zeal | Shirik, one more favour btw. could you take a look at the reply to my code, and let me know if the changes the person made are right? the function i was using is from wowwiki, so find it odd soemone would write that if theres a better native function in lua. :S |
| 07:30.23 | Shirik | which one is that? |
| 07:30.54 | Zeal | StatusText.Funcs.SplitString |
| 07:31.25 | Shirik | that doesn't exist |
| 07:31.28 | Shirik | string:split() ? |
| 07:31.30 | Shirik | it takes a variable |
| 07:32.30 | Shirik | in fact |
| 07:32.33 | Shirik | according to the lua interpreter |
| 07:32.37 | Shirik | string.split does not exist period |
| 07:33.31 | Shirik | ah, it's a blizzard-created function |
| 07:33.32 | Shirik | I see |
| 07:33.39 | Shirik | wowwiki's listing is probably because |
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| 07:33.47 | Shirik | if you wanted to run this on a standalone interpreter |
| 07:33.51 | Shirik | you would need to define that function |
| 07:34.19 | Zeal | hmm.. |
| 07:35.10 | Shirik | it's the only answer I can think of |
| 07:36.14 | Shirik | oh this is awesome |
| 07:36.18 | Shirik | check out this email I just got |
| 07:36.23 | Shirik | Date: 06/07/07 01:10 am |
| 07:36.24 | Shirik | Subject: Your Barnes & Noble Booksellers Order # 2763-166902 |
| 07:36.26 | Zeal | kk, ty then. |
| 07:36.28 | Shirik | This order will be available for pick-up on 06/06/2007 and will be held through 06/20/2007. You are welcome to stop by the store to pick up your order or call the number below to arrange for shipping. |
| 07:36.37 | Shirik | thank you for telling me a day after... |
| 07:36.42 | Zeal | rofl |
| 07:37.00 | Shirik | also the other part I like is |
| 07:37.02 | Shirik | how they say |
| 07:37.06 | Shirik | oh nm, I misread it |
| 07:37.07 | Zeal | every get snail mail, with coupon's that have expired by the time it gets to you? :P |
| 07:37.13 | Shirik | I was about to say, they tell me to come into the store to schedule shipping? |
| 07:37.16 | Zeal | *ever |
| 07:37.36 | Shirik | anyway /happy that I'll be able to pick it up tomorrow :DD |
| 07:38.43 | Zeal | hm.. will i be allowed to do SetCVar() and remain secure? :S |
| 07:38.48 | Shirik | yup |
| 07:38.52 | Shirik | CVars are not Lua variables |
| 07:38.55 | Shirik | by definition |
| 07:39.00 | Zeal | ah, coolies |
| 07:39.02 | Shirik | thus, they don't do anything like a = MyCVar |
| 07:39.09 | Shirik | instead they do a = GetCVar("Varname") |
| 07:39.15 | Shirik | and GetCVar is a secure function |
| 07:45.04 | Zeal | ok, yay for no errors now.. |
| 07:45.24 | Zeal | i just need to get it to update when i turn it on.. as it's now :s |
| 07:45.26 | Zeal | *not |
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| 07:47.47 | Shirik | yey :) |
| 07:49.22 | Shirik | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/electromagnetic_spectrum.png |
| 07:49.26 | Zeal | getting weird stuff happening now, lol |
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| 07:51.00 | Zeal | woops |
| 07:51.16 | Zeal | if i call my function i've hooked to, it won't call blizz's function i'm hooking will it? |
| 07:52.06 | Shirik | Zeal: Nope |
| 07:52.11 | Zeal | trying to figure out why when i turn stuffix on and off, all text vanishes until next update :s |
| 07:52.33 | Shirik | but it's working well? |
| 07:53.15 | Zeal | kinda, yeah. that insecure function error is long gone now. |
| 07:53.25 | Zeal | except for ace2 addons ofc. |
| 07:53.28 | Shirik | hehe |
| 07:53.29 | Shirik | nice :) |
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| 08:03.22 | Zeal | hm.. what's command to convert string to integer? :S |
| 08:04.20 | SunTiger | simply perform a calculation on it. |
| 08:05.12 | Shirik | Zeal: tonumber() |
| 08:05.18 | Zeal | that's produced errors in my experice :S |
| 08:05.27 | Zeal | ah, ty.. i thought it was tointeger() : / |
| 08:05.37 | Shirik | close, but there's no such thing as an integer in lua ;) |
| 08:05.41 | Zeal | lol kk |
| 08:06.00 | Shirik | and yeah, SunTiger you can't perform an arithmetic operation on a string :/ |
| 08:06.11 | Shirik | numbers coerce to strings, not the other way around though |
| 08:06.18 | SunTiger | right |
| 08:06.28 | Shirik | I... take that back |
| 08:06.32 | Shirik | apparently "1" + 1 is valid o.o |
| 08:06.34 | Shirik | huh |
| 08:06.35 | Shirik | interesting |
| 08:06.38 | Zeal | O_o |
| 08:06.46 | krka | interesting? |
| 08:06.53 | Shirik | I didn't know you could do that! |
| 08:06.57 | Shirik | I thought you had to tonumber() |
| 08:07.16 | Shirik | I'm so used to type-strict languages :/ |
| 08:07.20 | krka | it's a silly part of lua |
| 08:07.23 | krka | i'm against it |
| 08:07.29 | Shirik | would you rather do what Java does? ^^ |
| 08:07.33 | Shirik | "1" + 1 = "11" |
| 08:07.43 | Zeal | well that;s what i expected, lol |
| 08:07.47 | Shirik | which is equally as silly |
| 08:07.55 | Zeal | makes sense to me :p |
| 08:07.56 | Shirik | Zeal: Nah, Lua has different operators for concatenation |
| 08:08.04 | Shirik | this is why + and .. are different |
| 08:08.05 | krka | no, i'd expect lua to throw an error |
| 08:08.12 | Shirik | yeah, that's what I'd like too |
| 08:08.20 | krka | unless __add has been defined for strings |
| 08:08.42 | Zeal | well i swear when i accidentily did that before i did get an error about trying to concatenate a string or something :s |
| 08:08.45 | Shirik | which it hasn't |
| 08:08.53 | Shirik | I just /dump getmetatable("2") |
| 08:09.03 | Shirik | and all it's got is __idnex |
| 08:09.06 | Shirik | s/dn/nd/ |
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| 08:09.38 | krka | Zeal: perhaps you were using comparison operators |
| 08:09.40 | krka | 1 < "1" |
| 08:09.49 | krka | that does throw an error |
| 08:09.51 | Shirik | which is illegal ;) |
| 08:10.00 | Shirik | the inconsistency is a bit annoying tbh |
| 08:12.33 | Zeal | yeah, it does feel inconsistant with that |
| 08:12.48 | Zeal | and no, it wasn't a comparison error, i'm used to seeing those :P |
| 08:12.52 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:12.54 | Shirik | I don't like that "2" + 0 > 1 is valid |
| 08:12.57 | Shirik | but "2" > 1 is not |
| 08:12.59 | Shirik | it's like |
| 08:13.01 | Shirik | yeah |
| 08:13.02 | Shirik | anyway |
| 08:13.05 | Shirik | I should go to sleep |
| 08:13.07 | krka | i |
| 08:13.09 | krka | like |
| 08:13.09 | krka | to |
| 08:13.10 | krka | type |
| 08:13.11 | krka | like |
| 08:13.13 | Shirik | me |
| 08:13.13 | krka | this |
| 08:13.13 | Shirik | too |
| 08:13.21 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:13.27 | Shirik | purl |
| 08:13.37 | Shirik | :( |
| 08:13.47 | Shirik | purl, hi |
| 08:13.59 | purl | hello, shirik |
| 08:13.59 | Shirik | she hates me T_T |
| 08:14.25 | krka | i'm gonna request that those implicit conversions be removed in 5.2 |
| 08:14.28 | Shirik | krka: That's what happens when (1) I'm tired, and (2) I'm typing faster than I'm thinking |
| 08:16.10 | Shirik|zZz | night |
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| 08:32.12 | Zeal | well enough coding for me today.. nn |
| 08:43.21 | Antiarc | http://i16.tinypic.com/52flhxv.jpg |
| 08:43.22 | Antiarc | ;) |
| 08:45.50 | ckknight | pimp |
| 08:49.41 | ckknight | srsly, how can KTM compete? |
| 08:50.40 | SunTiger | it can't |
| 08:50.46 | SunTiger | there simply was no competition before. |
| 08:50.57 | ckknight | you're right on that part |
| 08:54.52 | Zicon | Oooh. Pretty. |
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| 09:00.44 | SunTiger | how is the graph doing performance wise, anyone got stats ? |
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| 09:07.01 | Antiarc | The graph eats CPU like you wouldn't believe, and is not for production use :) |
| 09:07.03 | Antiarc | But I had to do it anyway |
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| 09:28.57 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: any chance of making it completely optional, so it doesn't error when I don't have the graphlib :p |
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| 09:31.02 | ckknight_ | LoD mania! |
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| 11:09.36 | foxlit | poor pastey :( |
| 11:09.40 | foxlit | So much spam |
| 11:10.22 | leethal | =( |
| 11:30.25 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/55522?lang=null |
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| 11:30.38 | Kaso | is that guy spamming from his university web space? |
| 11:30.42 | Kaso | Surely not a good plan |
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| 12:22.45 | Kirkburn | Remember that Northrend map? Courtesy of Kaso, watch this wonderful slideshow :P http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/Northrend.gif?t=1181218881 |
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| 12:49.56 | Kirkburn | Cairenn|afk, you'll love this I bet - http://www.mr-lee-catcam.de/index.htm |
| 12:50.46 | Cairenn|afk | thanks Kirkburn |
| 12:51.12 | Kirkburn | It's so cool seeing their journeys ^^ |
| 12:51.33 | Kirkburn | Lots of cat meetings |
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| 13:01.45 | Kirkburn | The big question! http://thegoodreverend.blogspot.com/2007/05/exercise-equipment-or-sex-toy.html |
| 13:04.52 | Industrial | lolz |
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| 13:47.58 | Corrodias | i get a call about debt collection, which i know must be a mistake because i have no debts. of course it turns out they're apparently trying to contact the previous renter. |
| 13:50.07 | cogwheel | I was sent to collections once because a hospital didn't bother to bill the insurance company and for some reason they were sending bills to an address I hadn't lived at for about 8 years... |
| 13:50.31 | cogwheel | the collections agency couldn't even find me... I only found out about it when I tried to apply for a car loan. |
| 13:54.21 | Corrodias | lol |
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| 13:54.44 | Mr_Rabies | <AuroN> He delivers fantastic onjoin messages..he deservs a voice |
| 13:57.10 | Corrodias | what was that before, a new threat meter? |
| 13:57.27 | Corrodias | if it can figure out hunter pets, i'd be a happy camper |
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| 14:19.58 | Kirkburn | You have to be kidding me ... Paris Hilton has just been released :/ |
| 14:20.30 | Kirkburn | Electronic tag, at least |
| 14:20.59 | Kirkburn | In other, less depressing news - "Germany's chancellor says the leaders of the G8 nations have agreed a compromise deal on climate change" |
| 14:22.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies> <AuroN> He delivers fantastic onjoin messages..he deservs a voice |
| 14:22.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | woops |
| 14:23.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i fail at writing onjoin scripts :p |
| 14:23.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem solved |
| 14:29.35 | Kaso | What? How could anyoen justify realising paris hilton? |
| 14:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | the jail probably got tired of her whining |
| 14:32.00 | Kirkburn | Oddly though, I got the first bit of news via the BBC's SMS news alerts, and the second by actually visiting the news site |
| 14:32.12 | Kirkburn | I wish they'd stop with sending me inconsequential stuff |
| 14:41.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | at first i was going to express my anger to the internet and then i realized the last thing she needs is more people talking about her at all |
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| 15:00.15 | TS|Skrom | http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i257/derick_donnel/quoteGenEditor.jpg wheeee |
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| 15:24.43 | Thunder_Child | ....we have a lolcode topic :( |
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| 15:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | And an epic topic it is |
| 15:45.03 | foxlit | linklink? |
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| 15:45.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 15:45.04 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.14 | Elkano | hai; can has stdio?; visible "lol? ;)"; kthxbye |
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| 16:06.06 | Adys | anyone knows of an addon that would generate an item link from the tooltip of an item itself? |
| 16:09.09 | TC-Working | foxlit, L2Topic |
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| 16:37.31 | TS|Skrom | boy am I glad I split my addon up into a few different files |
| 16:37.33 | Nom- | wtf |
| 16:37.45 | Nom- | wtb instructions on getting 4k crits as a paladin |
| 16:37.49 | TS|Skrom | I just restored my "playing" addons directory which I didn't realize had a REAL old copy of the addon I was writing |
| 16:38.01 | TS|Skrom | so I overwrote about 80% of the work I did a couple days ago |
| 16:38.01 | subbawt | Nom-: cast a healing spell |
| 16:38.15 | Nom- | lol |
| 16:38.16 | TS|Skrom | thankfully all the stuff I did yesterday was in its own files |
| 16:38.25 | Nom- | i just saw a movie of a ret paladin getting 4k melee crits |
| 16:38.38 | Nom- | againjst shade of aran |
| 16:38.59 | TS|Skrom | undead? |
| 16:39.14 | Nom- | shade is yeah |
| 16:39.26 | Nom- | but he's a ret pally, stacked into melee dps |
| 16:39.27 | TS|Skrom | Probably a ret pally with vengeance, sanctity aura, lots of +spelldamage maybe even a mightstone (one shot item) |
| 16:39.36 | TS|Skrom | was it a 4k white crit? |
| 16:39.42 | Nom- | nah he was stacked on AP |
| 16:39.46 | Nom- | yellow crit |
| 16:39.58 | Shirik | bleh, weak |
| 16:40.08 | Shirik | beat my 6k aimed shot crit, mr. paladin! |
| 16:40.14 | Nom- | he had 1400ap unbuffed, crap gear |
| 16:40.28 | [dRaCo] | shade has 0 armor, no problem |
| 16:40.31 | TS|Skrom | so it was a crusader strike prolly |
| 16:40.39 | TS|Skrom | otherwise the ap wouldn't have mattered |
| 16:40.39 | Shirik | or my 18k curator crit ^^ |
| 16:40.40 | Shirik | oh that was fun |
| 16:40.56 | subbawt | i nearly one shot myself with a shadow word death on curator |
| 16:41.00 | Shirik | rofl |
| 16:41.06 | Shirik | that was smart |
| 16:41.10 | subbawt | i don't usually raid as shadow |
| 16:41.26 | subbawt | i also used a dark rune while enfeebled on prince one time |
| 16:41.27 | subbawt | :( |
| 16:41.40 | Shirik | oops |
| 16:42.26 | subbawt | I used one on thaddius back in naxx and apparently it recieved the 200% damage bonus :( |
| 16:42.29 | cladhaire | i shadow word death all the time on that fight |
| 16:42.31 | cladhaire | when enfeebled. |
| 16:43.22 | Shirik | hm |
| 16:43.28 | Shirik | tainting WorldFrame_OnUpdate |
| 16:43.30 | Shirik | is that a bad thing? |
| 16:45.03 | Nom- | hmmm isn't the oathkeeper a healing mace ? |
| 16:45.13 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 16:45.24 | [dRaCo] | 93 dps 2h mace |
| 16:45.25 | Nom- | ah kk ... |
| 16:45.31 | [dRaCo] | pala or shaman |
| 16:45.43 | subbawt | or a sad sad warrior :P |
| 16:45.55 | Nom- | i just watched a video with a ret pally wielding that puppy |
| 16:45.57 | [dRaCo] | a very sad warrior ^^" |
| 16:46.04 | Nom- | very nice damage output |
| 16:46.06 | [dRaCo] | yeah, it's not bad for 'em |
| 16:46.08 | Nom- | I need to lern2retpally :( |
| 16:46.18 | [dRaCo] | spell dmg, str, int, stam |
| 16:46.46 | Nom- | i thought ret is mostly based around melee stats? |
| 16:46.50 | Nom- | AP/Crit/etc |
| 16:46.59 | [dRaCo] | It is |
| 16:47.13 | [dRaCo] | But spelldmg is nice, too |
| 16:47.21 | Nom- | I haven't been ret since like level 40 :( |
| 16:47.29 | Nom- | I grindded from level 40-70 in Protection |
| 16:47.44 | [dRaCo] | more dmg for concecration and judging stuff |
| 16:48.06 | Vilkku | hello oh wise ones |
| 16:48.17 | Nom- | I need to get my pally to a point where i can make more than 100g in a night |
| 16:48.26 | Nom- | to justify respeccing to farm |
| 16:48.50 | Vilkku | I remember doing this once, but can't remember how... how would I know what the frame I'm mouseovering is named? |
| 16:49.55 | haste | /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) |
| 16:49.58 | Shirik | Vikku: Get |
| 16:50.00 | Shirik | bah |
| 16:50.01 | Shirik | fine |
| 16:50.05 | haste | D: |
| 16:50.13 | Shirik | yeah that |
| 16:50.17 | Vilkku | haste: thanks :D Shirik: better luck next time! |
| 16:51.37 | Shirik | Question: Let's say I have a weak table, {p = "Some stuff", s = "Some more stuff"} with __mode = "v" ...... does that even make sense? Or does it not make sense to have weak string values? |
| 16:53.28 | Shirik | oh! |
| 16:53.38 | Shirik | Barnes and Nobel finally got my book in :P |
| 16:53.42 | Nom- | I really don't have the gear for holy dps, so farming is *really* painful :( |
| 16:54.33 | Nom- | Must find a way to farm at least 100g in one night to justify speccing ret, grinding then speccing holy for raid |
| 16:57.03 | [dRaCo] | do 5 daily quests: 60g |
| 16:57.50 | [dRaCo] | farm some primal somethings and sell 'em and you're done |
| 16:58.07 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 16:58.18 | MoonWolf | does someone have the link to the omen with the graph still ? |
| 16:59.38 | Shirik | anyone use WUU? |
| 17:02.29 | Nom- | Any experienced paladins able to give me a rough idea of how much extra dps you get in ret as opposed to holy? |
| 17:06.49 | Shirik | I know of an experienced paladin, and I'll tell you two things |
| 17:06.59 | Shirik | (was actually asking him something like this yesterday) |
| 17:07.22 | Shirik | (1) He would /probably/ say "not enough to matter in PvE encounters" |
| 17:07.31 | Shirik | and (2) He would say for arenas, Ret is seriously underrated |
| 17:07.50 | Shirik | (and he was yesterday) |
| 17:09.19 | Nom- | bleh |
| 17:09.31 | Nom- | my pve dps is so gimped |
| 17:09.40 | TC-Working | dont look at me, my pally was prot all the way |
| 17:10.03 | Nom- | yah, but even prot has more dps than holy |
| 17:10.21 | Nom- | prot is actually awesome for solo pve |
| 17:10.55 | Nom- | once reckoning procs, it's gg to the mobs :) |
| 17:11.01 | TC-Working | well here are the specs..not much dps at all http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Holytemplar |
| 17:11.20 | TC-Working | not my pally anymore so i couldnt tell you the exact specs |
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| 17:12.23 | Nom- | i've seen movies of ret paladins throwing out 1200+ white and yellow crits |
| 17:12.36 | Nom- | i never see numbers like that, even in prot |
| 17:13.49 | [dRaCo] | seen some of those in BGs, too |
| 17:15.53 | Nom- | i'll have to research more :( |
| 17:15.58 | Nom- | nite going to bed |
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| 17:16.31 | TC-Working | night Nom- |
| 17:19.40 | Shirik | what's with all the spam on pastey? |
| 17:27.20 | foxlit | Hm, odd. |
| 17:27.25 | Gryphen | erm, it's spam |
| 17:27.28 | foxlit | Forge camp fps is floored again :( |
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| 17:32.05 | Saroz | yes |
| 17:32.08 | Saroz | it's shit |
| 17:32.39 | Shirik | you need to turn off the suck option |
| 17:32.47 | Shirik | SetCVar("Suck", 0) |
| 17:32.58 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 17:33.03 | |Jelly| | That option is usually broke in the "on" position. I'm sorry. |
| 17:33.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a blizzard bug |
| 17:33.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't set the cvar to 0 :[ |
| 17:33.40 | foxlit | Weirdest thing is, it was working fine yesterday |
| 17:33.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | sigh i guess i'm going to join the ranks of the meter watchers and get ktm |
| 17:34.15 | |Jelly| | Become a healer. That'll solve those problems. |
| 17:34.15 | Shirik|AFK | so long as you don't grow dependent upon it |
| 17:34.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | UNCLE ANDROSSSS |
| 17:34.29 | Shirik|AFK | |Jelly| what are you talking about? You're a priest, you don't heal |
| 17:34.37 | Shirik|AFK | you're dps |
| 17:34.38 | |Jelly| | Yes I do! |
| 17:34.41 | Shirik|AFK | :P |
| 17:34.42 | |Jelly| | The meters say so! |
| 17:34.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | vampiric embrace |
| 17:34.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 17:34.53 | Shirik|AFK | oh yeah forgot vampiric embrace |
| 17:34.59 | |Jelly| | I'm not shadow : / |
| 17:35.05 | |Jelly| | I'm broke spec. |
| 17:35.08 | Shirik|AFK | vampiric embrace = way to top the healing meters |
| 17:35.10 | Shirik|AFK | overhealing meters that is |
| 17:35.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | on my alts that are usually healers but aren't |
| 17:35.14 | Shirik|AFK | |Jelly|: Me too ^^ |
| 17:35.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyones like |
| 17:35.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | hay do u heal |
| 17:35.22 | foxlit | Most healing meters disregard overhealing now :) |
| 17:35.34 | Shirik|AFK | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Drenden&n=Kimina |
| 17:35.37 | foxlit | (evil things that they are!) |
| 17:35.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i respond "well, when you crit you get healed, hope you crit a lot :D" |
| 17:35.42 | |Jelly| | well regardless, it's just a best guess, isn't it? |
| 17:35.43 | Shirik|AFK | my talents are a bit broke |
| 17:35.47 | Shirik|AFK | I misclicked... |
| 17:35.49 | Shirik|AFK | twice... |
| 17:35.58 | |Jelly| | lol25? |
| 17:36.25 | |Jelly| | pretty much working towards mine |
| 17:36.35 | |Jelly| | a few changes but for the most part... |
| 17:36.59 | Shirik|AFK | it's supposed to be 23 :( |
| 17:37.04 | |Jelly| | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Jelly |
| 17:37.16 | Shirik|AFK | mental strength and searing light shouldn't be there |
| 17:37.42 | Shirik|AFK | ha! |
| 17:37.44 | Shirik|AFK | lolwell! |
| 17:37.59 | |Jelly| | I actually use it pretty often, with success. |
| 17:38.07 | Shirik|AFK | no healing prayers? |
| 17:38.11 | |Jelly| | I just threaten people's life to hit it while being beat on |
| 17:38.16 | Shirik|AFK | I have been told that's good for PoM |
| 17:38.20 | |Jelly| | I wasn't raiding when I specd it. |
| 17:38.28 | |Jelly| | ...now, I'm thinking about respeccing. lol |
| 17:39.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone parked a boss on a lolwell once and i accidentally spamclicked it trying to get to the boss |
| 17:39.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 17:39.12 | |Jelly| | Just not 100% sure what I would take points out of. |
| 17:39.18 | Shirik|AFK | Mr_Rabies: rofl |
| 17:39.19 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 17:40.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's see if KTM eats my framerate still or not |
| 17:40.54 | Shirik|AFK | this is where I'm going I think: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?500230113050012000000225050030302150530020000000000000000000000 |
| 17:41.19 | |Jelly| | no lolwell?!?!? 8P |
| 17:41.20 | Shirik|AFK | correction: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?500230113050012000000235050030302150530010000000000000000000000 |
| 17:41.35 | Kaso | i'd max out imp renew before maxing out holy spec |
| 17:41.56 | Kaso | ah you did >.< |
| 17:41.56 | Shirik|AFK | yeah |
| 17:41.58 | Shirik|AFK | that's what I fixed :P |
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| 17:48.50 | Kaydeethree | heh for random bugs on the ptr |
| 17:49.10 | Kaydeethree | I'm in the officer's quarters of stormwind, sitting at any of the chairs by the table upstairs will port players outside |
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| 17:55.08 | Shirik|AFK | Kaydeethree: That's awesome |
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| 18:02.18 | TC-Working | Arena team name: Stop in the name of love Team members: Stoppable and Unstoppable |
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| 18:07.56 | TC-Working | *sigh* why cant we search armory by class damit |
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| 18:50.43 | TC-Working | ...why is it so dead in here |
| 18:51.59 | cog|work | I killed them all |
| 18:52.11 | TC-Working | well bring em back, it's boring |
| 18:52.31 | cog|work | /cast Prayer of Ressurection |
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| 18:56.53 | TC-Working | didnt work |
| 18:56.58 | TC-Working | ~fail cog|work |
| 18:58.09 | TC-Working | either there is nothing for fail or purl is on a smoke break |
| 18:59.01 | cog|work | ~botsnack |
| 18:59.01 | purl | thanks, cog|work |
| 18:59.22 | TC-Working | huh..nothing for fail....i is surprised |
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| 18:59.49 | Shirik | prayer of ressurection would be awesome |
| 19:00.11 | TS|Skrom | *big booming voice* "Beware, I Live" |
| 19:00.52 | TC-Working | yea, but i would see that more for pallys...since it would work great with DI |
| 19:01.43 | TS|Skrom | then what good would that do a pally? |
| 19:01.49 | TS|Skrom | he can't cast it if he's dead from the DI :P |
| 19:02.06 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:02.06 | Shirik | yeah |
| 19:02.13 | TC-Working | huh? |
| 19:02.21 | TS|Skrom | DI still kills the pally to save the other, right? |
| 19:02.25 | TC-Working | no |
| 19:02.26 | Shirik | you couldn't use DI and Prayer of Ressurection bboth |
| 19:02.29 | Shirik | yeah it does >.> |
| 19:02.33 | TC-Working | what? |
| 19:02.41 | TC-Working | cant DI yourself? |
| 19:02.46 | Shirik | DI = Pally dies, raid member is invulnerabile for 3 minutes |
| 19:02.47 | Shirik | heh no |
| 19:02.55 | TC-Working | when the hell did that happen |
| 19:03.00 | TS|Skrom | well you'd be alive and dead at the same time XD |
| 19:03.02 | Shirik | if it ever existed, that would be a bug :P |
| 19:03.13 | TS|Skrom | or dead and invulnerable |
| 19:05.20 | TC-Working | i could swear i remeber being able to DI myself |
| 19:05.28 | TC-Working | ...oh well |
| 19:06.14 | Josh_Borke | you can't DI yourself |
| 19:06.14 | Kaso | wouldnt that just negate the whole point of the spell and make it stupidly overpowered |
| 19:06.14 | Kaso | 3min bubble lol! |
| 19:06.21 | Josh_Borke | you can't move while DI'd |
| 19:06.26 | Shirik | yeah you can't do anything |
| 19:06.30 | Shirik | I remember the first time I got DI'ed |
| 19:06.37 | Shirik | I was like "aah wtf I can't heal anything!!!" |
| 19:06.42 | Josh_Borke | there was a time where if you bubbled you could DI someone and not die |
| 19:06.48 | Josh_Borke | ~leroy jenkins |
| 19:06.53 | TS|Skrom | That I remember |
| 19:07.20 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 19:08.36 | Shirik | Hi Cide! |
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| 19:09.56 | TS|Skrom | :( all my friend play alliance but I wanna play a druid and hate night elves :( |
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| 19:13.18 | foxlit | woah! |
| 19:13.28 | foxlit | Blizzard default UI just displayed... three rows of buffs! |
| 19:13.35 | foxlit | That's 8x3, at least |
| 19:13.36 | Shirik | unpossible! |
| 19:13.58 | Shirik | someone just said in LFG |
| 19:14.07 | Shirik | "BRD group LFM, need tank, healer, and DPS" |
| 19:14.12 | Shirik | as opposed to.... |
| 19:14.26 | foxlit | BRD group LFM, need hunters |
| 19:14.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:17.10 | TC-Working | http://www.pvponline.com/article/2483/Tue-Sep-20 |
| 19:18.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Arena Season 2 won't be until 19th! |
| 19:18.39 | TC-Working | 19th of what? |
| 19:18.45 | Kirkburn|afk | June |
| 19:18.54 | Shirik | oh noes! |
| 19:18.54 | Kirkburn|afk | i.e. 2.1.2 on the 19th |
| 19:18.56 | TC-Working | ok, cool |
| 19:18.56 | Shirik | another 12 days! |
| 19:19.11 | TC-Working | i stop work on the 15, so that gives me...4 days to hit 70 |
| 19:21.09 | Shirik | from? |
| 19:21.29 | TC-Working | 68 |
| 19:21.51 | TC-Working | ofc i have untill the 15th as well, but i dont get to play all that much |
| 19:27.35 | TC-Working | heh, oldschool http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/19/Azeroth-world-map-warcraft1.jpg |
| 19:29.44 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.31 | Kaso | What happned to rockard then? |
| 19:31.30 | TC-Working | also stonewind -> stormwind |
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| 19:46.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmm |
| 19:46.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like they added some Elite Tauren Chieftan models into the game :O |
| 19:46.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're level 70 now :O |
| 19:46.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/band.jpg |
| 19:46.47 | kergoth | for any vim users around, http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/sshots/vim-tocsyntax.png.html did a quick syntax file |
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| 19:59.12 | TC-Working | *sigh* sadly shadow requires a respec for raid PvE or arena PVP :( |
| 20:00.30 | Josh_Borke | really? |
| 20:00.40 | TC-Working | yep |
| 20:00.50 | TC-Working | makes me a poor panda |
| 20:01.31 | Josh_Borke | how so |
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| 20:03.47 | TC-Working | pve: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxMhbhhZZVGxzrxRhtVo pvp:http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rx0GzZZVMgtMtRhtyo |
| 20:04.45 | Josh_Borke | hrm. i'd say that you'd need another spec for 5 man PvE. silence is great |
| 20:05.19 | TC-Working | counterspell? |
| 20:05.28 | TC-Working | but yes, silence is great |
| 20:05.45 | pastamancer | I'm never giving up silence! |
| 20:06.26 | TC-Working | oh? |
| 20:06.31 | Josh_Borke | TC-Working: i don't run with mages |
| 20:06.43 | TC-Working | i do, free water FTW |
| 20:06.56 | Josh_Borke | i make the mage bring me water, then kick him onto his tank or his healer |
| 20:07.38 | TC-Working | heh |
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| 20:27.58 | Industrial | can alliance read "/me suck my dick" ? |
| 20:28.10 | Industrial | (me being horde) |
| 20:28.17 | Industrial | (ofcourse, *cough*) |
| 20:28.40 | TC-Working | not anymore i dont think...i'm fairly sure they took that out |
| 20:29.03 | nevcairiel | it will result in <nick> does some strange gestures |
| 20:29.05 | TC-Working | only blizz made emotes go across factions |
| 20:29.05 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 20:32.30 | Fin | [22:31:55] < Industrial> can alliance read "/me suck my dick" ? |
| 20:32.31 | Fin | [22:32:07] < Industrial> (me being horde) |
| 20:32.31 | Fin | [22:32:14] < Industrial> (ofcourse, *cough*) |
| 20:32.39 | Fin | ugh |
| 20:32.45 | Fin | what were you coughing up there? |
| 20:33.01 | TC-Working | prostate exam |
| 20:33.09 | Fin | I did not read that |
| 20:33.45 | TC-Working | it was an attempt at a joke.... |
| 20:37.10 | Industrial | lol :P |
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| 20:46.25 | Industrial | lol now some retard is saying my name begins with GM and he is going to ticket me |
| 20:46.28 | Industrial | =D |
| 20:47.15 | TC-Working | i hope at some point blizz publishes GM transcripts that are seriously retared |
| 20:47.58 | TC-Working | s/GM/GM ticket/ |
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| 21:07.04 | cog|work | http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?pagewanted=1&_r=4 |
| 21:14.10 | TC-Working | why would you link something that people have to log into to read???? |
| 21:14.19 | TC-Working | bastard |
| 21:14.21 | TC-Working | ! |
| 21:14.31 | Kaso | learn2 bugmenot |
| 21:14.38 | cog|work | The fact that I'm a bastard has nothing to do with it... |
| 21:15.50 | TC-Working | huh...bugmenot..cool...allthough a username and pw of "eatabagofdicks" is not all that fun |
| 21:16.19 | Kaso | if it works, its works :> |
| 21:19.02 | TC-Working | meh |
| 21:19.20 | TC-Working | interesting article though cog|work |
| 21:20.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:20.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait it doesn't work |
| 21:20.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
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| 21:23.34 | TC-Working | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108417278&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 21:26.16 | cog|work | I probably would've seen this sooner if I read the General forum but... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108236512&sid=1 |
| 21:27.04 | TC-Working | you would have seen it sooner if you had gone to www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 21:27.19 | cog|work | pfft... direct bookmarks to the forums 4tw |
| 21:28.26 | TC-Working | i guess not |
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| 21:28.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 21:30.36 | TC-Working | pfft....your so lazy cog Will do. I just did a massive update yesterday and it's kind of a pain so it'll have to wait for next time though... |
| 21:30.48 | TC-Working | pfft....your so lazy cog "Will do. I just did a massive update yesterday and it's kind of a pain so it'll have to wait for next time though..." |
| 21:31.09 | cog|work | agreed |
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| 21:31.23 | TC-Working | you know, it's no fun when you agree with me |
| 21:32.41 | TC-Working | Bastard FTW! |
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| 21:36.48 | YammYgirlcoding | people. anyone have the new fizzwidget.com server? this one is off for over a week. I guess if it has moved. |
| 21:38.53 | YammYgirlcoding | hello ? |
| 21:38.53 | Kaso | My ingenious machine that lets you see these postings and download my producs will be moved sometime between now and May 30, which may result in an interruption of service. If you can’t reach fizzwidget.com, the latest releases can also be found at gazmik.wowinterface.com. |
| 21:39.37 | YammYgirlcoding | oh thank u ! :D |
| 21:40.05 | Kaso | checked the google cache of his site :> |
| 21:40.49 | YammYgirlcoding | smart :) |
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| 22:03.55 | Josh_Borke | bye |
| 22:04.03 | TC-Working | ? |
| 22:04.04 | Shirik | ok bye |
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| 22:04.10 | TC-Working | random |
| 22:04.16 | Shirik | hehe |
| 22:04.25 | Shirik | 18:03:46 ‹Josh_Borke› ok bye |
| 22:04.25 | Shirik | 18:03:55 ‹Shirik› ok bye? |
| 22:04.26 | Shirik | 18:04:05 ‹Josh_Borke› going home |
| 22:04.26 | Shirik | 18:04:10 ‹Shirik› ok bye :D |
| 22:04.26 | Shirik | 18:04:24 » Quit: Josh_Borke ‹n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu› ‹"Leaving."› |
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| 22:04.46 | TC-Working | wow, curse has a sexy way to view mod ss |
| 22:04.52 | Shirik | I hate it |
| 22:05.05 | TC-Working | really? it's so fast and easy |
| 22:05.26 | TC-Working | no new windows... |
| 22:05.51 | Kaso | I'd use curse, if it didnt take me 10min each time i goto the site to find the bloody wow addons section |
| 22:06.07 | Gryphen | i hate lightbox |
| 22:06.10 | Kaso | its like playing "Where's waldo" just with the most important feature of the site. |
| 22:06.19 | Shirik | cmon, you don't like games Kaso? |
| 22:07.36 | Shirik | what's the lua error cvar? |
| 22:08.28 | Shirik | ScriptErrors ? |
| 22:08.31 | Kaso | "scriptErrors" |
| 22:08.32 | foxlit | you can get to it through interface! |
| 22:09.39 | Shirik | yeah but this guy's lazy |
| 22:09.42 | Shirik | I'm just trying to answer his question |
| 22:10.23 | Shirik | ok bye |
| 22:11.41 | Kaso | has there been any offical post about this ChatFrame_EventHandler error thats being reported alot? |
| 22:11.57 | Kaso | is it default UI, or just some crappy addon thats gotten into the wild |
| 22:12.29 | foxlit | There were some issues with castsequences and errors |
| 22:13.26 | TC-Working | well while i dont like to demean addons, i have yet to find a chat addon i particularly like |
| 22:13.42 | Kaso | Nah this is different |
| 22:13.43 | Kaso | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=288810695&postId=2897732608&sid=1#5 |
| 22:13.51 | Kaso | ive seen about three posts on the EU forums with the same error |
| 22:14.02 | Kaso | i doubt it actually was spam sentry for some reason |
| 22:15.51 | Kaso | also in that thread, i love Erasmus' responce, he's trying so hard to help bless him. |
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| 22:16.41 | foxlit | Tbh -> hide lua errors and live happily ever after |
| 22:17.44 | foxlit | Don't see why anyone besides addon authors would want them enabled :P |
| 22:17.57 | Kaso | Well that is true |
| 22:18.13 | nevcairiel | i hate my stupid linux router, sometimes. |
| 22:18.21 | Kaso | But, now that ive seen that error, as a author its bothering me. |
| 22:18.50 | nevcairiel | its at like 100 clients now, and it just decides to not respond sometimes, and i dont know what i could change to fix that. |
| 22:20.39 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: because otherwise people will come posting that such and such addon doesnt work anymore and wont know that its actually erroring |
| 22:21.05 | TC-Working | nevcairiel, switch to windows? :) |
| 22:21.18 | Arrowmaster | also i think somebody said when errors are hidden you still get a noticeable preformance drop when something is causing a bunch of errors |
| 22:21.41 | foxlit | Turn it on when you have an actual issue |
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| 22:22.40 | Naurbrannon | hi there |
| 22:22.51 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: most people are too stupid to do that |
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| 22:23.59 | Naurbrannon | I'm here to ask you a think....I suppose you all know bartender3, is there an easy way to place the action bars writing coordinates somewhere? By "easy" I mean doable in game so editing the savedvariables and realoading is not an option |
| 22:24.17 | Naurbrannon | I would like to be able to place bars as I wast with pixel precision |
| 22:25.04 | Saroz | wtf I enter a BG and freeze now aswell |
| 22:25.05 | Saroz | brr |
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| 22:25.56 | TC-Working | Naurbrannon, nevcairiel may know...since it happens to be his.... |
| 22:26.21 | Saroz | disable aguf and it works |
| 22:26.26 | Saroz | might be time to use pitbull then |
| 22:26.42 | Naurbrannon | uh? oO |
| 22:26.50 | cog|work | anyone know why somestringwithnulls:gsub("\000*") wouldn't work? |
| 22:31.47 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 22:32.01 | Shirik|Ecole | well it really depends what happens C side I guess |
| 22:32.03 | Shirik|Ecole | perhaps it's a bug |
| 22:33.25 | Shirik|Ecole | > =string.gsub("\000", "\000", "1") |
| 22:33.26 | Shirik|Ecole | 1 2 |
| 22:33.30 | Shirik|Ecole | seems to be ok |
| 22:33.41 | Shirik|Ecole | > =string.gsub("\000", "\000", "\"1\"") |
| 22:33.42 | Shirik|Ecole | "1" 2 |
| 22:34.03 | TC-Working | > "bot?" |
| 22:34.13 | Shirik|Ecole | TC-Working: "yes!" |
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| 22:34.22 | TC-Working | heh, you fail |
| 22:34.32 | Shirik|Ecole | ( |
| 22:34.32 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 22:34.43 | TC-Working | the others had a 1 sec response time |
| 22:34.48 | TC-Working | you had 10 |
| 22:34.53 | Shirik|Ecole | least my response time is better than purl |
| 22:35.01 | TC-Working | sadly, yes |
| 22:35.51 | Kaso | Shirik|Ecole do you have your own luabot? are you just copying stuff off your lua console |
| 22:36.06 | Shirik|Ecole | just copying stuff off console :P |
| 22:36.18 | Kaso | use cide then! |
| 22:36.25 | Shirik|Ecole | oh cide's back! |
| 22:36.26 | Shirik|Ecole | haha |
| 22:36.27 | Kaso | >>> print("hi Shirik|Ecole !") |
| 22:36.28 | Cide | Kaso: "hi Shirik|Ecole !" |
| 22:36.32 | Shirik|Ecole | oops |
| 22:36.39 | Cide | yup yup |
| 22:37.08 | Kaso | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286913931&postId=2928236415&sid=1 |
| 22:37.17 | Kaso | I think this glaring gap needs fixing! |
| 22:37.23 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> string.gsub("\0foo\0", "\0(.-)\0", "%1") |
| 22:37.23 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: "\000foo\000", 6 |
| 22:37.31 | Shirik|Ecole | o.o |
| 22:38.39 | Shirik|Ecole | tools |
| 22:38.41 | Shirik|Ecole | maiden is fire damage! |
| 22:38.43 | Shirik|Ecole | not holy! |
| 22:38.46 | Shirik|Ecole | (well the holy fire is) |
| 22:38.50 | Shirik|Ecole | kaso!! |
| 22:39.04 | Kaso | yah it has the consicrate and the repentance thingy though |
| 22:39.14 | Shirik|Ecole | also I totally agree if you need that for maiden you suck lol |
| 22:39.45 | Shirik|Ecole | repentance deals damage? |
| 22:40.02 | Kaso | like 2k frontload doesnt it? |
| 22:40.07 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 22:40.10 | TC-Working | lolz "We seriously don't know how you IBM keyboard lovers get any work done when it sounds like Optimus Prime pleasuring himself with a jackhammer." |
| 22:40.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I never noticed ^^ |
| 22:40.20 | Shirik|Ecole | the whole being out of fight 10s is a bit more noticable than 2k damage |
| 22:40.38 | Shirik|Ecole | TC-Working: rofl, where did you see that? |
| 22:40.45 | TC-Working | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/sssh/thankos-silent-keyboard-only-makes-6db-266953.php |
| 22:40.50 | Kaso | im a shadow priest, im usually healed back up the damage after the 12 due to my dots ^^ |
| 22:41.22 | Shirik|Ecole | I bet if I typed on it |
| 22:41.27 | Shirik|Ecole | it would make noise |
| 22:41.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I seriously slam the keys :P |
| 22:41.56 | TC-Working | type softly and use a large mouse |
| 22:41.57 | Kaso | i think my apple keyboard is fairly quiet |
| 22:41.59 | TC-Working | >.< |
| 22:41.59 | Shirik|Ecole | "Optimus prime pleasuring himself with a hammer? Working in an office, I'd say it sounds like fat kids playing in a pool full of dominos." |
| 22:42.02 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 22:42.17 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't stand a quiet keyboard tbh |
| 22:42.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I need to know that I pressed stuff |
| 22:42.33 | TC-Working | you should be looking at teh screen Shirik|Ecole |
| 22:42.50 | Kaso | Well the fact that your fingers move usually let you know that Shirik |
| 22:42.50 | Shirik|Ecole | rarely do I look at what I type :P |
| 22:42.51 | TC-Working | audible hints need not apply |
| 22:43.00 | Shirik|Ecole | I do too much at once |
| 22:43.26 | Shirik|Ecole | some day I'll send you a SS of what my screen looks like when I'm working on my dragon12 |
| 22:43.42 | Shirik|Ecole | actually I should have a shot somewhere |
| 22:44.17 | TC-Working | what the voice to text program? |
| 22:46.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Atriace (n=atriace@177.71.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 22:46.16 | Shirik|Ecole | dragon12? |
| 22:46.28 | Shirik|Ecole | no it's a prototyping board |
| 22:47.42 | Kaso | I wonder why blizzard never changed mob holy fire to holy damage >.< |
| 22:48.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | same reason mobs can root indoors |
| 22:48.11 | Kaso | hu? |
| 22:48.22 | Kaso | i cant see how theyre linked... |
| 22:48.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | player/mob differences :O |
| 22:48.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus laziness |
| 22:48.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | on both accounts i guess |
| 22:51.42 | Kaso | UPDATE spellsdb SET Type = 'Holy' WHERE Name='Holy Fire' |
| 22:51.44 | Kaso | :> |
| 22:52.35 | Shirik|Ecole | heah... |
| 22:52.37 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah* |
| 22:53.50 | foxlit | nono! |
| 22:53.58 | foxlit | imba resist situation |
| 22:56.19 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 22:56.29 | Shirik|Ecole | TC-Working this is a somewhat dumbed-down version of what I usually am looking at http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?section=content&act=attach&type=post&id=743 |
| 22:56.38 | Shirik|Ecole | usually more windows up but meh |
| 22:56.59 | TC-Working | i'm not logged in..... |
| 22:57.03 | Shirik|Ecole | bleh |
| 22:57.07 | Shirik|Ecole | you have to log in to see that? |
| 22:57.12 | TC-Working | " |
| 22:57.12 | TC-Working | The error returned was: |
| 22:57.12 | TC-Working | Sorry, but you do not have permission to use this feature. If you are not logged in, you may do so using the form below if available. |
| 22:57.13 | TC-Working | " |
| 22:57.49 | Shirik|Ecole | sec |
| 22:58.17 | Shirik|Ecole | http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=68hcd12in3.png |
| 22:58.28 | Shirik|Ecole | point is, typing in one place, watching two other places at the same time (usually more but meh) |
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| 23:01.08 | TC-Working | indeed, you need a pic of more stuff |
| 23:01.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I'll see what I can do :P |
| 23:01.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I won't be working on that board again for another month so |
| 23:01.56 | Shirik|Ecole | (a little break yey) |
| 23:02.01 | Shirik|Ecole | well I guess more like 2 weeks but yeah |
| 23:04.22 | Shirik|Ecole | k bye |
| 23:05.50 | TC-Working | damit Shirik|Fooding should be KTHXBYE |
| 23:10.37 | Shirik|Fooding | HAI |
| 23:10.43 | Shirik|Fooding | CAN HAS STDIO? |
| 23:18.10 | Kaso | no |
| 23:18.25 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:19.45 | Shirik | cladhaire: I thought you didn't add the code that automatically adds a waypoint to tomtom? |
| 23:20.50 | Shirik | hrm |
| 23:21.01 | Shirik | I should check to make sure I actually have light feathers BEFORE I jump off the cliff |
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| 23:23.08 | TC-Working | lol @ Shirik |
| 23:23.13 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:23.15 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:23.21 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:26.46 | cladhaire | Shirik: i did later |
| 23:28.40 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:29.51 | TC-Working | damit, bes throws out traps like crazy |
| 23:31.40 | TC-Working | is button fading protected in combat? |
| 23:31.47 | Shirik | like SetAlpha? |
| 23:31.48 | Shirik | no |
| 23:32.06 | Kaso | but you can still click on an invisible button. |
| 23:32.10 | Shirik | yup |
| 23:32.19 | Shirik | you used to be able to :Disable() it but |
| 23:32.20 | TC-Working | are levels unprotected to? |
| 23:32.23 | Shirik | they took that awy from us :( |
| 23:32.31 | Shirik | that you can't do |
| 23:32.35 | TC-Working | figures |
| 23:32.52 | Shirik | otherwises you just stick a bunch of buttons on top of each other :P |
| 23:32.58 | TC-Working | yep |
| 23:33.08 | TC-Working | but that wasnt really my thought |
| 23:33.23 | foxlit | <Shirik> they took that awy from us :( |
| 23:33.31 | foxlit | And I've had such a beautiful decursive thing going too :( |
| 23:33.31 | Shirik | away |
| 23:33.33 | Shirik | haha |
| 23:33.40 | Shirik | well you can still put a button on top if it if you want |
| 23:33.45 | Shirik | I think |
| 23:33.48 | Shirik | I'm going to adjust |
| 23:34.07 | Shirik | yeah, I'm probably going to make a :Disable() function for RDX unit frames in that manner |
| 23:34.52 | Corrodias | praid's debuff highlighting is all the decursing help i need |
| 23:35.03 | cladhaire | need to fix the clearing |
| 23:35.08 | cladhaire | it drove me nuts the other night |
| 23:36.59 | cladhaire | god i love this show |
| 23:37.10 | Shirik | me too |
| 23:37.36 | cladhaire | what did you think of the winner? |
| 23:37.44 | Shirik | he obviously should have won |
| 23:38.00 | Shirik | he was clearly the best |
| 23:38.39 | Shirik | cladhaire: I hope you realize I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 23:38.40 | cladhaire | you mean she? |
| 23:38.41 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:38.42 | cladhaire | i do |
| 23:38.54 | cladhaire | i wanted to see what you came up with :P |
| 23:39.06 | TC-Working | s/he/she/ :) |
| 23:39.23 | TC-Working | he just forgot a letter....twice |
| 23:39.28 | Shirik | ya |
| 23:39.36 | Shirik | I didn't want to confuse purl |
| 23:39.43 | Shirik | since substitutions start with an s |
| 23:42.03 | cladhaire | ol |
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| 23:42.03 | TC-Working | a osent ork ike t |
| 23:42.03 | Shirik | TC-Working: I think you need a louder keyboard |
| 23:42.03 | TC-Working | s/t/hat/ |
| 23:42.03 | Shirik | you thought you were hitting the keys but you weren't |
| 23:42.19 | TC-Working | damn... |
| 23:42.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 23:42.19 | pastamancer | what's an osenhat? |
| 23:42.26 | Shirik | it's really tight leather hat |
| 23:42.36 | TC-Working | german beer drinking hat |
| 23:42.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | DIE OSENHAT |
| 23:43.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | or der or whatever the is |
| 23:43.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | in german |
| 23:43.21 | Shirik | damn |
| 23:43.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know these things i just listen to german music :O |
| 23:43.26 | Shirik | unbuffed +healing is now 684... |
| 23:43.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | at what level? |
| 23:43.36 | |Jelly| | that's all? 8p |
| 23:43.37 | TC-Working | pfft...healing is easy to get |
| 23:43.38 | Shirik | 66 |
| 23:43.39 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:43.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 23:43.43 | Shirik | stop ruining my happy moment! |
| 23:43.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm at 800 or so at 70 |
| 23:43.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | but |
| 23:43.56 | TC-Working | ~kill happyness |
| 23:43.58 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized pseudoneutron gun at happyness |
| 23:44.03 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:44.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still have 3/3 tier 2 |
| 23:44.05 | Shirik | purl, I hate you |
| 23:44.07 | purl | You hate you? |
| 23:44.07 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 23:44.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 23:44.15 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:44.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 pieces of tier 2 |
| 23:44.20 | TC-Working | purl FTW |
| 23:44.21 | purl | methinks ftw is wtf backwards, or for the win |
| 23:44.24 | Shirik | ~factoid I hate |
| 23:44.26 | purl | ACTION gives I hate a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 23:44.29 | Shirik | ~factinfo I hate |
| 23:44.30 | purl | Shirik: there's no such factoid as i hate |
| 23:44.38 | TC-Working | ~factinfo hate |
| 23:44.38 | purl | hate -- last modified at Tue Jan 23 21:36:05 2007 by Arrick!n=Arrick@unaffiliated/arrick; it has been requested 2 times, last by wethrin at Wed Mar 28 05:22:53 2007. |
| 23:44.42 | foxlit | [offtopic: Colbert had awesome Harry Potter spoilers!] |
| 23:44.52 | TC-Working | ~literal hate |
| 23:44.53 | purl | "hate" is "<reply>I hate idiots that just come into a channel to troll." |
| 23:45.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl i hate broccolis |
| 23:45.02 | purl | You hate broccolis? |
| 23:45.14 | TC-Working | ~literal i hate |
| 23:45.19 | purl | You hate? |
| 23:45.30 | TC-Working | meh |
| 23:45.45 | Shirik | hard coded maybe? |
| 23:45.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl i hate? why you gotta hate man |
| 23:45.47 | purl | You hate? why you gotta hate man? |
| 23:46.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love this bot |
| 23:46.08 | Shirik | purl, I foo bar baz |
| 23:46.09 | purl | You foo bar baz? |
| 23:46.13 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:46.17 | Shirik | ~factinfo I |
| 23:46.17 | purl | there's no such factoid as i, Shirik |
| 23:46.17 | TC-Working | ~literal I |
| 23:46.19 | purl | "tc-working" is "useless" |
| 23:46.23 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 23:46.25 | TC-Working | hah |
| 23:46.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 23:46.26 | Kaso | haha |
| 23:46.33 | Kaso | thats awesome |
| 23:46.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~botsnack |
| 23:46.50 | purl | Mr_Rabies2: :) |
| 23:46.59 | Shirik | ~factinfo TC-Working |
| 23:47.00 | purl | tc-working -- created by Kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk> at Wed May 9 00:44:39 2007 (29 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by Kirkburn at Tue May 8 18:44:55 2007. |
| 23:47.03 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:47.04 | Shirik | Kirkburn|afk |
| 23:47.19 | Shirik | hm, well I guess that wasn't the same |
| 23:47.31 | TC-Working | ~tc-working |
| 23:48.18 | purl | it has been said that tc-working is useless |
| 23:52.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~factinfo Mr_Rabies |
| 23:52.47 | purl | Mr_Rabies2: there's no such factoid as mr_rabies |
| 23:52.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~factinfo Mr_Rabies2 |
| 23:52.48 | purl | mr_rabies2 -- created by Kevorkian <n=supervis@rrcs-70-62-123-75.midsouth.biz.rr.com> at Tue Sep 26 16:00:58 2006 (254 days). |
| 23:52.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 23:52.48 | Shirik | purl is flooded :P |
| 23:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | can i look up like |
| 23:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | who made this |
| 23:52.57 | Shirik | ~Shirik |
| 23:52.58 | purl | "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 23:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate Mr_Rabies |
| 23:53.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay i'm gonna let her take a break |
| 23:53.00 | Shirik | she needs one :P |
| 23:53.01 | TC-Working | i guess Kirkburn|afk thinks i am useless |
| 23:53.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | long enough break, you're a robot |
| 23:53.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | back to work |
| 23:53.01 | TC-Working | ...he correct |
| 23:53.02 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:53.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate Mr_Rabies2 |
| 23:53.03 | purl | BATS! Bats. BaTs? |
| 23:53.04 | TC-Working | s/he/he's/ |
| 23:53.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 23:53.04 | Shirik | purl, ping |
| 23:53.06 | purl | pong |
| 23:53.06 | Shirik | 19:50:09 [CTCP: purl] PING |
| 23:53.06 | Shirik | .... |
| 23:53.07 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:53.07 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:53.07 | Shirik | . |
| 23:53.07 | Shirik | I'm thinking purl's internet is sucking :p |
| 23:53.07 | Corrodias | okay, tonight we're going to rip illhoof a new hole |
| 23:53.07 | Shirik | even when flooded she usually responds to CTCPs |
| 23:53.08 | TC-Working | Corrodias, bring the K-Y |
| 23:53.08 | TC-Working | it will make it much easier |
| 23:53.08 | Shirik | K-Y? |
| 23:53.08 | TC-Working | hm..KY? |
| 23:53.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll tell you when you're older |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:53.09 | TC-Working | heh |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik | yeah |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik | looked it pu |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik | up* |
| 23:53.10 | Shirik | probably didn't need to know |
| 23:53.10 | Corrodias | it's a lubricant, most famous for its advertising as a sexual aid |
| 23:53.10 | Corrodias | although it can be used for many situations. actually, KY is a brand with multiple products. |
| 23:53.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corrodias is an expert on the subject |
| 23:53.10 | Corrodias | grr, Bongos decided to remap all my action bar buttons without my permission |
| 23:53.20 | Corrodias | i log in after disabling it and i have to re-set them all |
| 23:53.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoaaaaa |
| 23:53.20 | Shirik | hey! |
| 23:53.20 | Shirik | I finally got my CTCP response! |
| 23:53.20 | Kaso | purl spam |
| 23:53.22 | purl | ACTION sings, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Wonderfull spam! |
| 23:53.22 | Shirik | 19:53:23 [CTCP 1181260209 reply from purl]: |
| 23:53.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | [purl 1181260159 reply] |
| 23:53.28 | Shirik | yes, thank you purl |
| 23:57.25 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:57.29 | Shirik | let me browse your good |
| 23:57.45 | TC-Working | meh? |
| 23:57.52 | Shirik | 19:57:36 » Quit: Gryphen ‹n=gryphon@mail.alexdevco.com› ‹"Let me browse your goods."› |
| 23:58.01 | TC-Working | ah |
