| 00:19.14 | Legorol | omg! we just cleared Karazhan |
| 00:19.21 | Zicon | Yay! |
| 00:19.36 | Legorol | didn't just take Netherspite, we actually completely cleared it with that |
| 00:20.22 | zenzelezz | good job :) |
| 00:27.27 | Legorol | zenzelezz, you don't even know how happy i am about this |
| 00:27.28 | JoshBorke | legorol: great job. wasn't it only 2-3 weeks ago you first stepped in? |
| 00:27.34 | Legorol | it looked like absolutely unimaginaable |
| 00:27.37 | Legorol | no, it's been 3 months |
| 00:27.44 | Legorol | we are very casual and very slow |
| 00:27.47 | Legorol | but as a guild, we are a great bunch |
| 00:27.49 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 00:27.57 | JoshBorke | i thought you were just working on moroes not too long ago... |
| 00:28.03 | Legorol | that's correct |
| 00:28.07 | Legorol | that'd have been about 2 months ago |
| 00:28.12 | JoshBorke | wow |
| 00:28.16 | Legorol | ok i can look up when we entered first :D |
| 00:28.16 | JoshBorke | where have i been... |
| 00:28.39 | Legorol | my first WWS log is from 21/04 |
| 00:28.46 | Legorol | and we'd been in there for a while by then |
| 00:30.03 | Legorol | there's a raid signup sheet for 30/03 that's still not been deleted |
| 00:30.55 | Legorol | that's certainly not the first raid though |
| 00:31.00 | Legorol | so it's actually been a little over 3 months |
| 00:31.37 | Legorol | according to the logs, the first Karazhan raid on our signup page was put up on 13/03 |
| 00:31.39 | Legorol | there you go |
| 00:33.44 | Legorol | our first Curator kill is 30/04, so over a month and a half to get there |
| 00:34.13 | Cairenn | evening |
| 00:34.24 | zenzelezz | ahoy, mistress |
| 00:34.41 | zenzelezz | Legorol: nothing wrong with taking some time when you're casual as you say |
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| 00:35.28 | Legorol | zenzelezz: indeed, nothing wrong |
| 00:35.34 | Legorol | but that's why it's so great, it's been a long journey |
| 00:36.51 | JoshBorke | :-) |
| 00:36.53 | JoshBorke | nightbane down? |
| 00:37.18 | foxlit | Tbh, best moment ever: charging Vashj spamming moonfire |
| 00:38.08 | Legorol | JoshBorke: we took nightbane earlier this raid-week |
| 00:38.11 | Legorol | on Thursday |
| 00:38.17 | Legorol | and we took Netherspite tonight |
| 00:38.28 | Legorol | we'd been working on Nightbane for a while though, so it was just a matter of time |
| 00:38.33 | Legorol | Netherspite was very fresh though |
| 00:38.41 | Legorol | we tried him twice or so, best effort is 90% |
| 00:38.51 | Legorol | mostly wiping and figuring out what the hell is going on :D |
| 00:39.03 | Legorol | but somehow today went fantastic |
| 00:39.23 | Legorol | i also feel we cheated a bit, we happened to have two warlocks, so we just stuck them in the blue beam alternately :o) |
| 00:41.27 | JoshBorke | Legorol: congrats |
| 00:41.33 | JoshBorke | Legorol: you surpassed my guild |
| 00:41.33 | Legorol | ty |
| 00:41.36 | Legorol | oh |
| 00:41.47 | Legorol | in that case, good luck on Netherspite! |
| 00:41.51 | JoshBorke | who's been working on kara for about the same amount of time |
| 00:41.55 | JoshBorke | they are stuck on nightbane |
| 00:42.06 | Legorol | are you trying netherspite at all? |
| 00:42.13 | JoshBorke | yea, netherspite is down |
| 00:42.20 | JoshBorke | i personally have not seen that many bosses |
| 00:42.26 | Legorol | we had nightbane first, it's easier for us |
| 00:42.52 | Legorol | the thing is though, our performance fluctuates a lot |
| 00:42.54 | JoshBorke | we've got 3 groups that have been able to field a raid. 2 have cleared through opera. the third has killed everyone but nightbane |
| 00:43.04 | Legorol | it depends a lot on what group we get on the day |
| 00:43.21 | Legorol | e.g. on saturday, we spent entire night wiping on Prince |
| 00:43.27 | Legorol | today, we took Prince, Illhoof, Maiden, Netherspite |
| 00:43.29 | Legorol | go figure |
| 00:43.40 | zenzelezz | Prince can be such a pain though, if the infernals aren't cooperative |
| 00:43.52 | Legorol | true, but there are some points |
| 00:43.59 | Legorol | if your dps is low, you are too slow and get more of them |
| 00:44.09 | Legorol | plus there is unlucky streaks of course |
| 00:44.17 | Legorol | e.g. on 3%, infernal goes splash on the melee group |
| 00:44.19 | Legorol | nothing you can do |
| 00:44.50 | Legorol | anyhoo, the funny thing about nightbane was that, contrary to popular stats i read, we didnt' stick a single healer in green beam |
| 00:45.01 | Legorol | and the key for us seemed to have been getting Phase 2 right |
| 00:45.31 | zenzelezz | to each their own; it's just fun if you manage it differently from others |
| 00:45.37 | Legorol | yup |
| 00:45.50 | Legorol | and we can especially be very eccentric sometimes about how we do stuff |
| 00:46.03 | Legorol | simply because we have to work with whatever group we get |
| 00:46.23 | Legorol | I still remember the first time I managed to convince our raid to try Maiden anyway, even though we don't have a paladin |
| 00:46.40 | Legorol | Then when she went down, I was like "see, we don't need a paladin" |
| 00:50.10 | JoshBorke | you mean netherspite, right legorol? nightbane is the summoned boss, netherspite is the ethereal dragon |
| 00:50.28 | Legorol | that's correct, |
| 00:50.37 | Legorol | every boss-named i typed is correct as far as i can see |
| 00:50.51 | JoshBorke | 20:44:49) Legorol: anyhoo, the funny thing about nightbane was that, contrary to popular stats i read, we didnt' stick a single healer in green beam ;-) |
| 00:50.58 | Legorol | ok that's wrong :D |
| 00:51.03 | Legorol | meant netherspite there |
| 00:51.14 | JoshBorke | i really want to do that fight |
| 00:51.24 | JoshBorke | as a shadow priest :_) |
| 00:51.27 | JoshBorke | it looks like a ton of fun |
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| 00:54.39 | Legorol | it is, it's my favourite actually |
| 00:54.51 | Legorol | Moroes used to be my favourite, until we got to Netherspite |
| 00:55.21 | Legorol | I really like Netherspite because it's not about your gear |
| 00:55.29 | Legorol | it's about control, coordination and doing the right thing the right way |
| 00:55.44 | Legorol | but it isn't even that fiendishly difficult, and not "twitchy" |
| 00:55.57 | Legorol | so it's control in the tactical sense, rather than the "pay attention and cleanse immediately or you die" sense |
| 00:56.12 | Legorol | you have a solid plan -> you have a solid win |
| 00:56.19 | Legorol | i like that |
| 00:57.04 | Legorol | of course i'm a bit biased, a fight where i have 35k Hp and get healed to max health every second is... fun |
| 00:57.29 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:57.54 | Legorol | i like Nightbane too actually |
| 00:58.02 | Legorol | our major stumbling block has been the moment he lands |
| 00:58.14 | Legorol | after an air phase |
| 00:58.17 | Legorol | almost invariably he chomps a healer at that point |
| 00:58.32 | Legorol | we changed tank, and it seemed to go better |
| 00:58.39 | zenzelezz | for some reason the landing is no problem for me; but I've had healers die often during skeletons for some reason |
| 00:58.49 | Legorol | we got skeletons sorted out |
| 00:59.02 | Legorol | however, having 3 raid members who can tank and have an AoE taunt help :o) |
| 00:59.12 | Legorol | we usually go with 2 prot warrs and a feral druid in our raid :D |
| 01:00.03 | Legorol | zenzelezz: for your healers to survive the skeli phase, you need to understand well how the smoking blasts during that phase work |
| 01:00.29 | Legorol | i had huge problems picking him up after each landing |
| 01:00.39 | Legorol | then we had a go with our top tank tanking |
| 01:00.45 | Legorol | he had no problem whatsoever |
| 01:00.49 | Legorol | we still dont' understand what i was doing different from him |
| 01:01.01 | zenzelezz | shouldn't be a problem as long as people aren't doing any DPS or big heals when he lands |
| 01:01.01 | Legorol | our tanking style is very similar |
| 01:01.06 | Legorol | so it's a mystery for us atm |
| 01:01.24 | Legorol | zenzelezz: i'd shield slam him when he lands (not a miss) and he'd go chomp a healer |
| 01:01.35 | Legorol | i'd even tried standing between the landing spot and the range group, to pick him up on the way to the healer |
| 01:01.37 | Legorol | again, no luck |
| 01:01.45 | Legorol | at the moment, it's a mystery |
| 01:01.57 | Legorol | but hopefully i'll get to tank him again some point, and then i can figure out what i'm doing wrong |
| 01:02.30 | zenzelezz | sounds to me like it's just the healer doing something; I've never had a problem picking him up |
| 01:02.48 | Legorol | there is no way a healer can out aggro my shield slam |
| 01:02.55 | Legorol | he aggro wipes on landing, so something strange is happening |
| 01:03.04 | zenzelezz | my opinion remains |
| 01:03.11 | Legorol | ok |
| 01:03.15 | Guillotine_Ghost | alright, so my addon has the text string for the talent spec for just about everyone on my server. Currently, I just use that to figure out the xx/xx/xx of the person, but I'd like to make it be able to view full talent trees. Anybody have any ideas on how to do that best? |
| 01:03.17 | Legorol | and i'll watch for that too |
| 01:03.23 | Legorol | anyhoo enough raid banter |
| 01:03.59 | Legorol | Guillotine: would you be able to somehow hijack the in-game talent picker thingy? |
| 01:04.09 | Legorol | maybe reuse it |
| 01:04.14 | JoshBorke | replicate it |
| 01:04.18 | JoshBorke | populate the replication |
| 01:04.19 | Guillotine | Legorol: afaict, it only has information available for the class you're logged on to |
| 01:04.33 | Guillotine | which is my primary problem |
| 01:04.37 | Legorol | ack |
| 01:05.04 | Legorol | oh, how about |
| 01:05.18 | Legorol | whatever API function that part of the UI uses to get info about your talents and trees, |
| 01:05.28 | Legorol | hook that API function and return your own info |
| 01:05.39 | Legorol | thus fooling the UI into displaying what you want it to display |
| 01:05.43 | Guillotine | ya, but then I have to manually type out all the talents -_- which I'd rather not do |
| 01:05.53 | Guillotine | if I was going to do that, the graphical part would be the least of my problems |
| 01:06.02 | Legorol | hm tru |
| 01:06.08 | Guillotine | since people aren't actually adding/removing points I don't need all those checks |
| 01:06.39 | Legorol | that's a tough one indeed |
| 01:10.20 | Industrial | http://208.53.169.77/ |
| 01:12.41 | Guillotine | Industrial: lol |
| 01:14.06 | Corrodias | moon |
| 01:14.06 | Corrodias | shine |
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| 01:16.28 | Corrodias | still just a little buzzed from that margarita. i'd have liked it to completely wear off by now. |
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| 01:27.01 | Guillotine | bleh |
| 01:27.05 | Guillotine | can't think of any good solution |
| 01:30.54 | Guillotine | hmm. found an addon that lets you see other class's talent trees. maybe I'll just add support for it |
| 01:34.12 | Wobwork | Talented? |
| 01:34.52 | kergoth | talented is awesome |
| 01:35.01 | kergoth | especially the wowhead/blizz url importer |
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| 01:39.34 | Kody- | Yeah |
| 01:39.37 | Kody- | Talented is great |
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| 02:05.22 | Nom- | bleh... retribution paladins get a bit shafted, gear wise |
| 02:05.42 | Nom- | Aside from the T4/5/6 sets, there's 3 pieces of PvP plate, and a blue set from heroics |
| 02:06.36 | Nom- | Healadins on the other hand can fill out their bags with non-set epics :( |
| 02:07.24 | zenzelezz | well, someone has to heal now that all the priests are shadow and all the druids are bears, cats or owls |
| 02:07.42 | Zicon | Kitty! |
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| 02:08.27 | Wobwork | You're a KITTY! |
| 02:09.01 | Zicon | Indeed. |
| 02:09.24 | Wobwork | I need to bookmark that comic |
| 02:09.49 | Wobwork | http://xkcd.com/c231.html |
| 02:12.37 | zenzelezz | argh, I hate the flying birds in Skettis |
| 02:13.30 | Nom- | Bleh...It's just a little painful |
| 02:13.39 | Nom- | I might actually get to be our ret pally |
| 02:13.54 | Nom- | Which means I have to go back and roll on the Karazhan tier items to gear up |
| 02:14.02 | Nom- | At least noone needs them |
| 02:14.17 | Nom- | All of our Shamans, Paladins and Rogues have the T4 tokens from Kara already |
| 02:14.22 | Nom- | We' |
| 02:14.28 | Nom- | We're almost going to start DE them |
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| 02:15.56 | Nom- | I mean http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27880 are nice |
| 02:16.00 | Nom- | Maybe I just concentrate on arena instead |
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| 02:16.39 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&n=Innominata <-- my current retnoob gear |
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| 02:21.06 | zenzelezz | the birds in skettis wouldn't be so bad if they just wouldn't Hamstring you so you fell to your death >:-( |
| 02:21.43 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:21.44 | JoshBorke | yea |
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| 02:29.34 | zenzelezz | is that even intentional? It's happening all the freaking time |
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| 02:35.39 | Nom_ | Anyone here doing the arena grind? |
| 02:35.46 | cladhaire | Nom-: I think Tem is |
| 02:35.54 | Nom- | Just wondering how long it'd take to get a 3-piece arena set :) |
| 02:36.06 | cladhaire | I just need my weapon, but have the same question :P |
| 02:36.13 | Tem|work | unless you have gear to start, good @#$!ing luck |
| 02:36.27 | Nom- | Well, I have a full set of healing epix |
| 02:36.37 | Tem | with how much hp? |
| 02:36.39 | Nom- | But my DPS gear is lacking |
| 02:36.45 | Nom- | 9.5k buffed |
| 02:36.55 | Tem | and resil? |
| 02:37.02 | Nom- | very little resil |
| 02:37.17 | Nom- | maybe 8 or 12 i've got like 1 item |
| 02:37.38 | JoshBorke | woot! medium all 5 starred |
| 02:37.52 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 02:37.57 | JoshBorke | Guitar Hero 2 |
| 02:38.00 | Nom- | Just trying to work out what would be more worthwhile |
| 02:38.17 | Nom- | Grind Karazhan/Heroics for the blues and first 2 T4 tokens |
| 02:38.31 | Nom- | Or go into the arena like nuts and try to get the 3-piece arena set |
| 02:46.44 | Tem | Nom-, I think you have the wrong focus |
| 02:46.54 | Tem | do whichever is more fun |
| 02:47.26 | Tem | if you got onto a good 5v5 team (and you don't suck yourself) then 3 peices is about a month or 2 off |
| 02:47.43 | Tem | but if you're just going to learn a 2v3, it will probably take all summer |
| 02:48.07 | zenzelezz | that doesn't sound very fair |
| 02:48.36 | Tem | er |
| 02:48.38 | Tem | 2v2 |
| 02:48.42 | Tem | I sux at typing |
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| 03:14.38 | hooded | hey |
| 03:15.19 | hooded | anyone know if i should do this quest yet? im a level5 blood mage and im doing this feledren the banished |
| 03:15.27 | hooded | i dunno if ill die or not |
| 03:15.54 | Thrae | Why don't you lookup the quest on wowhead.com? |
| 03:16.34 | hooded | oh |
| 03:16.35 | hooded | right |
| 03:16.39 | hooded | im new... and i suck |
| 03:16.42 | hooded | thanks for the tip |
| 03:19.06 | hooded | Thrae: website is dead... |
| 03:19.47 | Thrae | hooded: Then Thottbot.com |
| 03:20.04 | ckknight | wowhead is dead? |
| 03:20.47 | k_d3|food | yay timeouts. |
| 03:21.16 | hooded | Thrae: thanks again |
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| 03:29.15 | Nom- | hmm interesting |
| 03:29.26 | Nom- | The blue pvp armor might be ok? |
| 03:29.42 | Nom- | heh wowhead database is having "issues" |
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| 03:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Is WoWI going incredibly slow currently? |
| 03:57.14 | GofG | You there? |
| 03:57.18 | GofG | Bah, wrong window |
| 04:02.24 | Bleeter | ScytheBlade1: seems fine here |
| 04:02.32 | Bleeter | Cairenn: gratz on going to BlizzCon! :) |
| 04:02.40 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 04:02.55 | Bleeter | after your year so far, the gods know you deserve it :D |
| 04:03.06 | Cairenn | wouldn't have been able to do it without you guys though |
| 04:03.51 | Cairenn | and I'm STILL in shock that so many people care about me that much that they'd chip in like that to make sure I was there |
| 04:03.58 | Bleeter | it's the first I've heard of it, so it's merely moral support I gave |
| 04:04.41 | Bleeter | but yeah, if it weren't for you and this chan and that site, etc., I'm sure the community would be a lot worse off. You certainly deserve it on that score alone. |
| 04:04.44 | Cairenn | well, we had it covered within 2 days, so we shut down the [obvious] link |
| 04:05.39 | Cairenn | obviously my paypal account is still there, same as it was there before this, but I'm not greedy, I didn't even want to accept it in the first place, I feel really weird about it - but very very humbled and grateful |
| 04:09.45 | Bleeter | I'm sure you don't really realise how much your efforts, and that of the other wowi-admins, the senior mod authors etc., are really appreciated |
| 04:10.03 | Bleeter | multiply that out by x million players worldwide, and that's a lot of love :) |
| 04:10.15 | Cairenn | *blushes furiously* |
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| 04:43.02 | ScytheBlade1 | How do I go from string to int in lua? |
| 04:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | [3]="22222" <-- I need that to be 22222, not "22222" :/ |
| 04:46.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. tonumber() |
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| 04:57.52 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10781 |
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| 04:59.04 | Guillotine | sorry, I was gone. Ya, talented is the one |
| 04:59.09 | Guillotine | so I'm just adding support for it |
| 04:59.22 | Cairenn | if you can afford transportation and accommodations to BlizzCon, but missed out on getting a ticket in time, you might want to check the link I just posted |
| 05:00.49 | Guillotine | Cairenn: so will you be brining a bound copy of the UI sourcecode as well to mess with slouken? >.> |
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| 05:00.57 | Cairenn | hehehe, no |
| 05:01.08 | Cairenn | I'll be bringing clad's book |
| 05:05.12 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, mins printed out already |
| 05:05.23 | Thunder_Child | mine* |
| 05:05.54 | Aella | Ah, to think that I might've inspired this madness... it's like being there without being there. |
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| 05:11.43 | Bleeter | wish I knew what I'd have to do to try and convince someone/somecorp to organise an Oceanic Blizzcon |
| 05:11.52 | Bleeter | I'm 100% positive it'd be well attended |
| 05:12.14 | Bleeter | someone once aid 'organise it yourself', and I'm like... 'errrr' |
| 05:12.19 | Bleeter | *said |
| 05:13.12 | Bleeter | tho I guess if I did, I could scam free tickets |
| 05:17.14 | Bleeter | I mean, seriously.. middle of Winter in Europe/US? Blizzcon in, say, Queensland somewhere... nice little 'summer holiday' for Blizz staff |
| 05:17.26 | Bleeter | if someone were to suggest that to someone senior, I'm sure they'd organise it quick smart lol |
| 05:21.10 | MentalPower|ZzZz | night |
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| 06:49.39 | krka|work | hm.. i think i messed up my nvidia config |
| 06:49.52 | krka|work | i get random vertical lines, and then the system freezes |
| 06:50.54 | Wobwork | >< |
| 06:51.08 | Wobwork | Probably not overly conducive to an effective work environment! |
| 06:51.18 | Wobwork | krka|work: for linux? |
| 06:51.23 | krka|work | yeah |
| 06:51.31 | Wobwork | use Envy? |
| 06:51.38 | krka|work | yup |
| 06:51.49 | Wobwork | that doesn't usually mess up |
| 06:51.58 | Wobwork | you can just download from nvidia and run it from there |
| 06:52.01 | Wobwork | otherwise |
| 06:52.10 | krka|work | it even got me some kernel modulel mismatch errors |
| 06:52.17 | krka|work | yeah, tried that too |
| 06:52.24 | Wobwork | ow =\ |
| 06:52.26 | krka|work | i'll just reinstall ubuntu when i get home from work |
| 06:52.33 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:52.41 | Wobwork | the microsoft solution =P |
| 06:52.46 | krka|work | yeah :/ |
| 06:52.47 | Guillotine | whats wrong with the regexp "(^%-+)%-(.+)" in catching Name-Realm? |
| 06:52.53 | Wobwork | but oddly faster =P |
| 06:52.55 | krka|work | nvidia always messes up for me |
| 06:53.03 | Guillotine | oh, nm |
| 06:53.04 | Guillotine | duh |
| 06:53.07 | Wobwork | what's ^%? |
| 06:53.11 | krka|work | i wouldn't consider reinstalling for simpler problems |
| 06:53.24 | Guillotine | Wobwork: meant to do [^%-]+ |
| 06:53.27 | Guillotine | forgot the brackets |
| 06:53.35 | Wobwork | ah =) |
| 06:53.43 | Wobwork | was trying to figure out what was being tried there =) |
| 06:53.46 | Guillotine | its alwasy the small thigns that get me >< |
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| 08:33.25 | decimad | Hello there, i've been trying to understand the SetPoint methods of wow widgets the last hours or so but don't get it... Is somebody willing to answer some questions about this topic? Thanks |
| 08:40.07 | decimad | http://wowi.pastey.net/67582 here is some sample code. I thought with it i would align the left, top and right sides of the button to the parent widged and then i could use SetHeight to actually set the height of the button. However what happens is, that magically the button is just gone |
| 08:42.55 | decimad | i tried multiple other combinations, however only those with 0,0 relative coordinates or SetAllPoints had a visible result :-/ |
| 08:44.24 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:44.31 | Wobin | isn't negative to the left? |
| 08:44.34 | Wobin | Not to the right? |
| 08:44.51 | decimad | According to wowwiki, yes |
| 08:45.16 | Wobin | so setting your 'right' point to a negative puts it on the left direction? |
| 08:45.50 | decimad | well i thought the child's right would then be on the left side of the parent's right |
| 08:46.52 | Wobin | But you're setting the left point 30 pixels to the right, and setting the right point 30 pixels to the left? |
| 08:47.20 | decimad | that was the idea, that the button is inside the parent widget but with space to the edges |
| 08:47.23 | Wobin | How big is the parent? |
| 08:47.45 | decimad | 250x80 currently |
| 08:47.59 | Wobin | Have you given the button a texture? |
| 08:48.04 | decimad | yes |
| 08:48.22 | Wobin | and it normally shows up if you just 'CENTER' the button? |
| 08:48.25 | decimad | if i use button:SetAllPoints(parent); the button is visible |
| 08:48.52 | decimad | but it "fills up" the parent completely |
| 08:49.42 | decimad | my ultimate goal is to align a variable amount of buttons inside the parent |
| 08:50.47 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:56.12 | decimad | I also tried SetPoint( "TOPLEFT", parent, "TOPLEFT", 20, -20 ); and then SetHeight SetWidth ... nothing visible |
| 08:56.40 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 08:57.01 | Wobin | decimad: I can't help, I'm afraid =\ Not sure what's causing the issue |
| 08:59.30 | decimad | with SetPoint( "TOPLEFT", ArenaUnits, "TOPLEFT", -20, 20 ); the whole screen and more becomes a button xD |
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| 09:35.39 | Nom- | Rolling restarts this week, per chance ? |
| 09:50.04 | Elkano | here you go... /crash Nom- |
| 09:55.13 | Wobin | ps |
| 09:55.18 | Wobin | yes rolling restarts |
| 09:55.20 | Wobin | for most servers |
| 09:55.26 | Wobin | some will have full maint |
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| 10:58.11 | decimad | Hi there! Is someone particularly familiar with the usage of the widget's SetPoint member function? |
| 10:59.33 | cladhaire | decimad: Go ahead and ask, if I'm not in the shower I'll try to answer |
| 10:59.36 | JoshBorke | just try asking your question :-) |
| 10:59.39 | JoshBorke | same |
| 10:59.40 | JoshBorke | :-D |
| 11:00.02 | decimad | http://wowi.pastey.net/67582 here is some sample code. I thought with it i would align the left, top and right sides of the button to the parent widged and then i could use SetHeight to actually set the height of the button. However what happens is, that magically the button is just gone |
| 11:00.26 | cladhaire | what is ArenaUnits? |
| 11:00.30 | cladhaire | is it shown? |
| 11:00.41 | decimad | That's a form |
| 11:00.49 | cladhaire | i.e. /dump ArenaUnits:IsVisible() and ArenaUnits:IsShown() |
| 11:00.49 | decimad | The parent window |
| 11:01.03 | decimad | ArenaUnits is visible, yes |
| 11:01.41 | cladhaire | i would use "TOPLEFT" and "TOPRIGHT" as your width anchors, and then SetHeight() for the height |
| 11:01.59 | cladhaire | the "TOP", "BOTTOM" "LEFT and "RIGHT" _can_ get nasty at times, since they anchor the center of one frame to the other |
| 11:02.03 | cladhaire | so right now, you have no width |
| 11:02.09 | cladhaire | that's al ie |
| 11:02.13 | cladhaire | and i knew it before i finished typing =) |
| 11:02.20 | cladhaire | but you have no height |
| 11:02.28 | cladhaire | and a frame with no height isn't visible |
| 11:02.39 | cladhaire | start with this, do :ClearAllPoints() |
| 11:02.46 | cladhaire | then :SetAllPoints(ArenaUnits) |
| 11:02.54 | decimad | Yes, i do use Setheight afterwards |
| 11:03.07 | decimad | Okay |
| 11:03.07 | cladhaire | this will make it the same size as the ArenaUnits frame |
| 11:03.09 | cladhaire | is it visible when you do this |
| 11:03.11 | cladhaire | ? |
| 11:03.14 | decimad | Yes |
| 11:03.37 | decimad | Already tried that so see if my mistake has to do with the Anchors |
| 11:03.44 | cladhaire | okay |
| 11:03.48 | cladhaire | now :ClearAllPoints() |
| 11:04.01 | cladhaire | then SetPoint("TOPLEFT", ArenaUnits, "TOPLEFT", x, y) |
| 11:04.02 | decimad | Yes, that's the first call i do |
| 11:04.05 | decimad | okay |
| 11:04.08 | cladhaire | and then "TOPRIGHT" |
| 11:04.11 | cladhaire | then give it a height |
| 11:04.14 | decimad | Gonna try |
| 11:04.14 | cladhaire | and see where that gets you |
| 11:04.24 | cladhaire | may have nothing to do with your problem, but the corners are MUCH more reliable as anchors. |
| 11:04.52 | sylvanaar | the blizzard stuff is no help with that cause they seem to do setpoint CENTER alot |
| 11:05.49 | cladhaire | thats what happens when you have graphics people writing code |
| 11:05.58 | cladhaire | ever seen one of those portfolio websites and the way they're done? =) |
| 11:06.00 | cladhaire | yuck! |
| 11:06.10 | cladhaire | I saw the way the WorldStateScoreFrame is set up |
| 11:06.13 | cladhaire | and wanted to cry |
| 11:07.11 | cladhaire | brb shower |
| 11:08.13 | decimad | Button not visible, here's a bit more of the code around that part: http://wowi.pastey.net/67836 |
| 11:08.45 | cladhaire | is this frame PARENTED to the frame you're anchoring to? |
| 11:08.51 | cladhaire | it appears to be |
| 11:09.04 | cladhaire | wait |
| 11:09.07 | cladhaire | the button is hidden. |
| 11:09.10 | cladhaire | you never show it. |
| 11:09.20 | decimad | i do at the end after the textures |
| 11:09.28 | decimad | i didnt want to post all that |
| 11:09.48 | decimad | if i change all the sizing to SetAllPoints(ArenaUnits); the button shows up nicely |
| 11:09.52 | cladhaire | why is the :hide necessary? |
| 11:10.14 | decimad | Uhm, well, it's production code *gg+ |
| 11:10.36 | cladhaire | well, that doesn't matter, if you show it later, there's no reason to hide it |
| 11:10.43 | cladhaire | nothing will happen in the game client until your code has returned |
| 11:10.50 | cladhaire | unless you're wrapping this in a coroutine fro some reason |
| 11:10.59 | cladhaire | i gotta get ready for work, hopefully someone else can help you |
| 11:11.19 | decimad | right |
| 11:11.27 | decimad | thanks for your time anyways! |
| 11:16.58 | JoshBorke | so, you're not seeing your text correct? |
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| 11:18.13 | decimad | Neither the Button nor the text is visible if i do not use trivial SetPoints or SetAllPoints |
| 11:19.25 | JoshBorke | the button has no texture so how do you know it's not visible? |
| 11:19.37 | decimad | because it actually has^^ |
| 11:19.43 | decimad | i didnt post that part |
| 11:19.44 | JoshBorke | ok :-) |
| 11:19.57 | JoshBorke | would you mind pastey'ing the entire relevant code? |
| 11:19.58 | decimad | i assure you, if i use SetAllPoints, then the button is all there |
| 11:20.02 | decimad | okay |
| 11:20.10 | decimad | just a sec |
| 11:23.09 | decimad | here it is: http://wowi.pastey.net/67862 |
| 11:23.40 | decimad | I think i can skip all that if i just use a template, right? |
| 11:23.54 | JoshBorke | for the most part yes |
| 11:24.13 | JoshBorke | have you tried adding in a SetWidth call? |
| 11:24.31 | decimad | no not yet, but soon^^ |
| 11:26.55 | decimad | no change :( |
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| 11:29.38 | decimad | Can it be that i f***ed something up with the parent window? I mean it's visible, but maybe one can screw the coordinate system or so |
| 11:29.51 | JoshBorke | nope |
| 11:30.02 | JoshBorke | almost positively nope, but i'm almost never positive about anything |
| 11:30.24 | decimad | xD |
| 11:30.29 | JoshBorke | hm, you don't set the parent to be ArenaUnits |
| 11:30.59 | decimad | newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]); |
| 11:31.12 | JoshBorke | oh right, forgot about that |
| 11:31.13 | JoshBorke | hrmph |
| 11:31.29 | JoshBorke | does the frame show if you anchor to UIParent instead? |
| 11:32.35 | decimad | Well, the Button shows up if i use SetAllPoints( ArenaUnits ); or if i do 4 calls like SetPoint( "TOPLEFT", ArenaUnits, "TOPLEFT", 0, 0 ); for all 4 corners |
| 11:33.35 | JoshBorke | anchor the bottomleft then |
| 11:33.48 | sylvanaar | lol do setpoint CENTER like blizzard does |
| 11:34.09 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 11:34.16 | decimad | Well, i want a variable number of buttons aligned |
| 11:34.44 | decimad | That's why i do that in code anyways, otherwise i had gladly used xml for that |
| 11:34.56 | sylvanaar | you use setsize |
| 11:35.21 | sylvanaar | + 1 anchor point x,t |
| 11:35.27 | sylvanaar | x,y |
| 11:35.30 | JoshBorke | what is SetSize? |
| 11:35.54 | sylvanaar | lame SetHeight() SetWidth() |
| 11:36.02 | sylvanaar | setsize is windows |
| 11:37.10 | decimad | ArenaUnits.myButton:SetPoint( "TOPLEFT", ArenaUnits, "TOPLEFT", 20, 20 ); ArenaUnits.myButton:SetHeight( 40 ); ArenaUnits.myButton:SetWidth( 200 ); |
| 11:37.26 | decimad | No Button visible :( |
| 11:38.52 | decimad | For 99% its something really stupid i did for it to fail :-( |
| 11:39.35 | sylvanaar | leave off the reference to the parent |
| 11:40.49 | decimad | I dont understand |
| 11:42.31 | sylvanaar | SetPoint("LEFT", 21, 0) |
| 11:42.44 | sylvanaar | SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 20, 20) |
| 11:42.53 | decimad | Ahhh, okay |
| 11:47.21 | decimad | Hrmm, no change. I just checked again ArenaUnits.myButton:SetAllPoints(UIParent); |
| 11:47.55 | decimad | which doesnt work, nor "UIParent" (im not sure if that is actually a variable or just a string identifier) |
| 11:48.07 | decimad | but SetAllPoints(ArenaUnits) works |
| 11:49.05 | decimad | But i dont know whether one can use UIParent in the SetAllPoints-method anyways |
| 11:49.32 | decimad | If one can, then this behaviour might be a hint, dunno |
| 11:53.26 | sylvanaar | why do you need UIParent, the parent is ArenaUnits...can you see that? |
| 11:58.18 | decimad | Well i want ArenaUnits to be the parent, i call CreateFrame accordingly |
| 11:58.25 | sylvanaar | is arenaunits your frame? |
| 11:58.37 | decimad | Yes, it's the main frame of the addon |
| 11:58.53 | sylvanaar | you created it and can see it? |
| 11:59.00 | decimad | yip |
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| 12:28.22 | decimad | aha! with really small relative x,y values and widths and heights it seems to work! |
| 12:28.41 | decimad | width = 2.0 and height = 0.6 that is Oo |
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| 12:41.06 | decimad | Yeah, it was the SetScale( 100 ) which just didnt belong there |
| 12:41.31 | decimad | Thanks for your time mates and also sorry for taking it |
| 12:41.58 | Josh_Borke | hehe, scale is between 0 and 2 :-D |
| 13:03.50 | haste | no, scale is >0! |
| 13:04.27 | haste | not that I think you will ever want to use something above 4 |
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| 13:50.13 | Shirik | for scale |
| 13:50.17 | Shirik | wasn't exactly... readable |
| 13:50.34 | Shirik | and I had to hope that I was typing /script UIParent:SetScale(1) properly |
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| 15:10.02 | sag_ich_nicht | iahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, bought Magicians Mantle yesterday for 1g sold it for 74 |
| 15:10.44 | cog|work | Heh |
| 15:11.00 | cog|work | I bought a blue shield once for 70 silver and sold it for 75g once :) |
| 15:11.11 | cog|work | silly n00bs |
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| 15:38.02 | KarlThePagan | is it just me or did wowhead start to have database problems THE DAY they were bought out? |
| 15:38.08 | deltron | lol |
| 15:38.13 | deltron | yeah |
| 15:38.22 | zenzelezz | worked fine for me for the bigger part of yesterday |
| 15:38.34 | KarlThePagan | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27515 - hasn't worked for me until just now |
| 15:38.46 | KarlThePagan | empty info page or server timeouts mostly |
| 15:39.00 | deltron | http://www.wowdigger.com/ |
| 15:39.06 | cog|work | So, I got a splitting headache just now, and the first thing I think of is ... |
| 15:39.09 | cog|work | Mind Flay |
| 15:39.28 | mikma | new site :O |
| 15:39.40 | deltron | wowdigger looks really sweet |
| 15:40.00 | deltron | character profiles, wish lists, etc |
| 15:40.15 | KarlThePagan | profiles! zomg |
| 15:40.26 | KarlThePagan | that's what i was hoping the next big site would have |
| 15:40.39 | KarlThePagan | it seems like a no-brainer for wowhead or someone like them to implement it |
| 15:41.05 | deltron | yeah |
| 15:41.59 | Beladona | wowdigger needs hovertips |
| 15:42.22 | mikma | Beladona: atleast i have them |
| 15:42.28 | Beladona | oh they do |
| 15:42.30 | Beladona | just not everywhere |
| 15:42.40 | Beladona | I would expect to have a hovertip on items in a list |
| 15:43.02 | deltron | herb/vein/chest all lumped together :( |
| 15:43.19 | Beladona | wowhead slowness makes me a sad panda. I used them exclusively for a while |
| 15:43.27 | zenzelezz | slowness? |
| 15:43.34 | Beladona | its not always |
| 15:43.40 | Beladona | but lately they are slower than usual |
| 15:43.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's been acting up in the last week or so |
| 15:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | may just be a bug with some patch they did to the server or something |
| 15:44.07 | deltron | since they were bought out :P |
| 15:44.19 | Beladona | that could be a coincidence |
| 15:44.24 | Beladona | I am not counting them out yet |
| 15:44.24 | zenzelezz | be careful about making assumptions |
| 15:44.26 | deltron | hehe |
| 15:44.33 | deltron | i know |
| 15:44.42 | deltron | it can be anything |
| 15:44.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | the admins are too busy at vegas blowing their million |
| 15:48.05 | Shirik | mail.db.erau.edu |
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| 15:48.10 | Shirik | wrong screen >.> |
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| 16:09.47 | MentalPower | echo! |
| 16:09.55 | MentalPower | ~echo |
| 16:09.56 | purl | [echo] an issue which can be best fixed using this link: http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/content/docbook/current/docs-html/x1695.html#AEN1718, or fixed with fxotune: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fxotune, or best fixed by troubleshooting your pci bus: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PCI+bus+Troubleshooting, or of course ... |
| 16:10.10 | MentalPower | bah |
| 16:10.26 | Lopeppeppy | Just checking that my work connection wasn't blocking things somehow, quiet channel today! |
| 16:13.07 | GofG | Wow |
| 16:13.22 | GofG | WoW made my MBP crash |
| 16:13.25 | GofG | for the first time since I've started playing |
| 16:13.29 | Lopeppeppy | MBP? |
| 16:13.45 | GofG | It made it crash bad, too. The screen went grey and it showed instructions for rebooting in 8 languages. |
| 16:13.47 | GofG | Macbook Pro |
| 16:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ah.... yeah, WoW has been wonky since the last patch for many people. My condolences that you've joined that group. |
| 16:15.04 | GofG | Hmm |
| 16:15.19 | GofG | My friend just quit WoW and I inherited 1700g. What should I spend it on, guys? |
| 16:15.25 | GofG | I've already got a chanter up to 350 |
| 16:15.37 | Valaron|Work | epixxx |
| 16:15.48 | Valaron|Work | hardcore epixxx |
| 16:15.49 | GofG | Hehe my main is 32 :) |
| 16:15.52 | Lopeppeppy | Have any need to teach a new craft? Tailoring for a caster? |
| 16:15.53 | GofG | There are no epics |
| 16:16.00 | GofG | Eh |
| 16:16.03 | GofG | My chanter is a tailor |
| 16:16.10 | Lopeppeppy | Good deal. |
| 16:16.25 | GofG | I'm just kinda overwhelmed at being the richest level 32 on my server |
| 16:16.28 | Pac2722 | dam this wow thay have temporarily suspended my wow acc i cant get in any1 els had truble like this |
| 16:16.33 | Lopeppeppy | At 32, there's not much to spend it on. |
| 16:16.35 | GofG | I'll never have to save up for an epic |
| 16:16.40 | GofG | Err, a mount |
| 16:17.13 | GofG | Right now I'm just dominating the low-level weaponry market on my server |
| 16:17.27 | GofG | Like, every weapon below level 20 on the market is being sold by me |
| 16:17.39 | Lopeppeppy | b |
| 16:17.47 | Lopeppeppy | Bank it for your epic mount. |
| 16:17.54 | GofG | oh, and I bought all 16 slot bags :) |
| 16:17.57 | GofG | Hmm... |
| 16:18.00 | GofG | But isn't epic only 500g? |
| 16:18.21 | Lopeppeppy | Pac2722, you would have gotten an e-mail to the address you gave when registering your account. It has directions for what to do if you want to question an action taken against your account. |
| 16:18.26 | zenzelezz | 540 + mount cost |
| 16:18.47 | GofG | Well bah |
| 16:18.49 | GofG | That hardly matters |
| 16:18.58 | GofG | I'll put 1000 in the bank and never touch it until epic mount |
| 16:19.28 | GofG | Right now I'm just having a hell of a time leveling in STV... it's so boring :) |
| 16:19.43 | GofG | Hell of a time as in, it's like hell. I just realized that's a commonly used phrase for a "good time" |
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| 16:20.33 | GofG | Hmmm |
| 16:20.34 | Lopeppeppy | STV is indeed boring. Alliance or Hordeside? |
| 16:20.42 | GofG | Maybe you guys could look at my armor and tell me what needs upgraded |
| 16:20.44 | GofG | NE hunter |
| 16:21.03 | Lopeppeppy | Go to Southshore/Arathi then, for a change of pace. Also Desolace. |
| 16:21.18 | Lopeppeppy | The Armory has a new feature to search for upgrades, I've found it very helpful. |
| 16:21.24 | GofG | I'm following Jame's |
| 16:21.27 | Pac2722 | Lopeppeppy: yer i did it told me there was a temp pass word to login i did that but it tells me a website to goto that tells me a lot of things that could b y that temporarily suspended but will not help me to get it back |
| 16:21.37 | GofG | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackwater+Raiders&n=Gofg |
| 16:22.19 | Lopeppeppy | There should be an email you can write to in order to discuss it, Pac2722. I think it's Account Administration. But if you only got a temporary suspension, you might need to just wait it out. |
| 16:23.24 | Pac2722 | yer k my 4 acc have been temporary suspension |
| 16:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | Only Account Administration can discuss it with you, so you'll need to use their e-mail to contact them. |
| 16:24.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | did they explain why, Pac2722? |
| 16:24.19 | Lopeppeppy | Email - wowaccountadmin@blizzard.com |
| 16:24.19 | Lopeppeppy | Web form: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/?id=eSupport000 |
| 16:24.19 | Lopeppeppy | Fax : 1 (949) 725-7972 |
| 16:24.24 | Pac2722 | no that didnt |
| 16:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | There's your contact info, Pac2722. They're the only ones with answers for your situation. |
| 16:27.00 | Pac2722 | yer tryed that at 1pm austarlian time go not a thing back yet |
| 16:27.49 | Lopeppeppy | It's not an instant message service, sadly. Sometimes the suspension is over before the issue is resolved. But if you prove the suspension wasn't warranted, you might be able to get them to remove the record of it. |
| 16:28.14 | Pac2722 | E-mail is called World of Warcraft Account Notice - Final Warning never had a Warning b4 but will keep trying |
| 16:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think it's necessary for them to give a prior warning before a final one, depending on what they believe happened. |
| 16:30.47 | Pac2722 | yer well thnx for your help i will go to bed & c if i can get it fixed 2morrow if not i might just have to buy a new copy of wow & play it then |
| 16:31.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it doesn't mention why in the final warning email? |
| 16:31.09 | Lopeppeppy | It said temporary, the world isn't over yet! |
| 16:31.23 | zenzelezz | did you tick someone off lately or something? :-o |
| 16:31.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it doesn't mention why then there's a chance that they messed up |
| 16:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | because usually there's a big tier of warnings and stuff for anything other than, say, botting or spamming gold messages |
| 16:32.28 | Pac2722 | yer k well im off to bed it's 2:31 am here |
| 16:32.30 | Shirik | Pac2722: also, it helps to write in english when you talk to them, i.e., I hope you didn't type to them like that in the email |
| 16:32.40 | GofG | Even gold buying has 3 warnings |
| 16:32.53 | GofG | The second warning comes with a 1 week suspension, the third with a 2 week suspension |
| 16:32.55 | GofG | then permabanned |
| 16:32.57 | Shirik | because when I read something like that, I instantly think "script kiddie" which will lead me to think you're lying about your "defense" |
| 16:33.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | gold ad SPAMMING, GofG |
| 16:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | not buying |
| 16:33.21 | GofG | I know |
| 16:33.23 | GofG | I'm talking about something completely different from you |
| 16:33.30 | GofG | I'm saying that "Even the act as bad as gold buying" |
| 16:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | spamming is instant 3 day ban and then they investigate |
| 16:33.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 16:33.40 | GofG | Hehe :) |
| 16:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | and hell |
| 16:34.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you respond when a GM pm's you asking if you're okay |
| 16:34.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | they won't do anything most of the time |
| 16:34.27 | wereHamster | Can someone please confirm http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6900#c19 for me? I'd like to know if it's really true what he sais. |
| 16:34.33 | Pac2722 | well thnx for your help ppl i will let u know how i go |
| 16:34.47 | GofG | wereHamster: Not on the mac version. |
| 16:34.52 | GofG | What linux are you running? |
| 16:35.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the heavy botters that bot to screw over the ecomony and whatnot that they try to go for |
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| 16:35.14 | GofG | I think botting is mildly bad |
| 16:35.26 | GofG | but I don't have any moral problems with it unless the person is not at the computer |
| 16:35.37 | Shirik | wereHamster: C19? |
| 16:35.44 | Shirik | I'll check it right now :) |
| 16:35.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a problem with those that use it to farm mobs all day and stuff |
| 16:36.19 | Lopeppeppy | GofG... the definition of "bot" is unattended play. That's the whole purpose of botting, so that you're NOT at the computer. |
| 16:36.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | for loot and stuff |
| 16:36.33 | Lopeppeppy | I can farm until my eyes bleed, as long as it's me doing the motions. |
| 16:36.33 | GofG | wowgliding is botting whether or not you are at the computer |
| 16:37.04 | GofG | Botting is like a dietary supplement, but you still need to get exercise and eat right :) |
| 16:37.06 | Lopeppeppy | Thankfully, I don't have indepth enough knowledge to know what wowgliding actually is -- but if it's a hack, it's against the rules no matter what it does for you. |
| 16:37.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | typically i was at the computer when i did it, to make sure it wasn't being stupid |
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| 16:37.17 | GofG | I know, I'm just saying I don't have any moral problems with it. |
| 16:37.27 | wereHamster | Shirik, #c19 == comment 19 |
| 16:37.29 | GofG | I personally have never used Wowglider, it's not on mac :) |
| 16:37.31 | Shirik | ya |
| 16:37.36 | Shirik | was just confirming that that's the one you wanted to look at :) |
| 16:37.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i realized it just wasn't fun to do, as boring as leveling your 3rd char is |
| 16:37.58 | wereHamster | Shirik, I' |
| 16:38.11 | Shirik | me too |
| 16:39.53 | wereHamster | I'm wondering whether it really crashes on windows, because that would mean blizzard should do something about it (you can't argue that WoW has a bug because it crashes under wine) |
| 16:41.45 | Shirik | wereHamster: I can't confirm the issue. I just changed every video setting I can think of, in opengl mode, and nothing bad happened |
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| 16:43.53 | wereHamster | Thanks. The last thing I can try is ask nvidia to give me a patched win32 driver that advertizes only a single PF to applications and try there. |
| 16:44.12 | Shirik | would they do that? |
| 16:44.35 | wereHamster | .. and I'll ask the guy who reported the crash what system he has (graphics card) |
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| 16:45.05 | wereHamster | I certainly hope, the linux developers from nvidia are really nice people :) |
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| 16:45.10 | Shirik | too late |
| 16:45.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | CHEESE IT ITS THE FUZZ |
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| 16:46.00 | Lopeppeppy | I'm musing over just tossing my current system and getting a new one..... I found out I can't add more RAM to my motherboard, soooo..... why not just upgrade the lot? |
| 16:46.19 | krka | ok need help: what causes the screen to draw weirdness, shortly followed by a hard system freeze? |
| 16:46.28 | Shirik | a problem |
| 16:46.37 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 16:46.46 | krka | colors start to drift into other pixels, et.c. |
| 16:46.51 | Shirik | it could be a lot of things, though the most evident is a problem with video card or its driver |
| 16:46.52 | MentalPower | krka: overheating |
| 16:47.00 | krka | of gpu? |
| 16:47.03 | Shirik | potentially |
| 16:47.08 | Lopeppeppy | Video card -- overheating of card or drivers |
| 16:47.08 | Shirik | or memory for that matter |
| 16:47.11 | MentalPower | of GPU or CPU or RAM |
| 16:47.11 | Shirik | but the card itself |
| 16:47.18 | Shirik | eh, unlikely ram |
| 16:47.20 | krka | oh... i see |
| 16:47.21 | Shirik | VRAM perhaps |
| 16:47.41 | Shirik | unless krka's running on a really crappy system, RAM should have little to do with rendering |
| 16:48.18 | MentalPower | shared memory was what I was thinking about |
| 16:48.31 | Shirik | i.e., "really crappy system" =P |
| 16:48.39 | Shirik | bye krka |
| 16:48.45 | Shirik | =( |
| 16:48.52 | Shirik | I think he froze up again lol |
| 16:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | Poor thing. I know that pain all too well. |
| 16:50.16 | wereHamster | GofG, gentoo |
| 16:50.24 | GofG | Gentoo? |
| 16:50.28 | GofG | oh |
| 16:50.30 | GofG | Right |
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| 16:50.38 | GofG | Hehe the delay confused me. |
| 16:50.46 | GofG | I was about to say "No, OSX" |
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| 16:58.53 | zenzelezz | you know, I'd gladly pay 25-50 training points for a pet ability to eat flesh from dead mobs, so I didn't have to keep carrying meat |
| 17:00.15 | Lopeppeppy | Only undead pets, zenzelezz. :) |
| 17:01.05 | zenzelezz | I'd still go for it :-) |
| 17:03.08 | GofG | I'd give up more than 50 training points |
| 17:03.23 | GofG | I'd do at least 100 |
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| 17:08.02 | wereHamster | Shirik, the bug could surface only in special circumstances, like special order of PFs advertized by the driver. |
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| 18:29.06 | foxlit | Does /script in a macro pcall itself? |
| 18:29.15 | foxlit | Or can I crash the macro execution path? |
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| 19:03.52 | wereHamster | is it allowed to disassemble WoW? |
| 19:05.18 | cog|work | not in the US, depending on your intent (and it is probably addressed in the EULA) |
| 19:06.44 | foxlit | Must sneak tinfoil hat code into some addon |
| 19:07.19 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 19:08.29 | foxlit | [Tinfoil Hat] itemlink, courtesy of me :P |
| 19:08.48 | foxlit | Fake it client-side for shits and giggles. |
| 19:12.48 | foxlit | Does issecurevariable not update if some other addon taints the variable afterwards? |
| 19:13.19 | Recluse | is there a /script API call etc to toggle the show/hide helm/cloak? |
| 19:13.32 | foxlit | ShowCloak(boolVisible); ShowHelm(boolVisible); |
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| 19:14.36 | Recluse | well, that's simple enough lol |
| 19:16.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | get it snuck into Vendetta bossmods and CTRA |
| 19:16.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe oRA and bigwigs too, cover all the bases |
| 19:17.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | so that everyone has a nonexistent linkable item |
| 19:17.18 | foxlit | Ace! |
| 19:17.30 | zenzelezz | if you're going to do those then add it to all the loot mods also |
| 19:18.06 | foxlit | Can't insert code in other people's mods. Let's drum up some support here :) |
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| 19:20.30 | DT_ | Shouldn't ARTWORK show up behind OVERLAY? I'm trying to make a minimap button but the actual button is showing up in front of the border |
| 19:21.34 | foxlit | Yes, it should |
| 19:22.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | foxlit, no, but you can convince them to |
| 19:22.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 19:23.05 | foxlit | True, true. |
| 19:23.14 | foxlit | Let's see if I can write up some embeddable code. |
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| 19:27.43 | foxlit | Here's my evil "screw-Prat" code: http://wowi.pastey.net/68568 |
| 19:28.39 | foxlit | It's a chat hook that essentially rehooks itself on top if it's moved :/ |
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| 19:29.58 | pakoz | yo |
| 19:30.38 | foxlit | Thing is, I seem to be not the only one with that idea |
| 19:30.41 | foxlit | Since RAB_RehookLimit goes to 0 |
| 19:30.54 | pakoz | anyone know how to important this into cartographer? http://85.236.110.130/~cartographer/process_download.php mining locations |
| 19:31.00 | pakoz | import* |
| 19:31.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm kinda afraid to click a random link at an IP |
| 19:31.39 | pakoz | i have the full cartog package, if that is important |
| 19:31.42 | pakoz | erm sry lol |
| 19:31.52 | pakoz | lets see |
| 19:31.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but you can probably go into the cartographer_mining file |
| 19:32.04 | pakoz | [90736888] = "Fel Iron Deposit", |
| 19:32.04 | pakoz | [67321324] = "Fel Iron Deposit", |
| 19:32.04 | pakoz | [56706388] = "Fel Iron Deposit", |
| 19:32.04 | pakoz | [65330717] = "Fel Iron Deposit", |
| 19:32.04 | pakoz | [24923863] = "Adamantite Deposit", |
| 19:32.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | the savedvariable, that is |
| 19:32.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and paste is |
| 19:32.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it* |
| 19:32.13 | pakoz | saved variable, got it |
| 19:32.19 | pakoz | thats the data on that sheet btw |
| 19:32.25 | pakoz | erm that link* |
| 19:32.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | \World of Warcraft\WTF\SavedVariables\Cartographer_Mining.lua i think |
| 19:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | just find where the other nodes are |
| 19:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | just find where the other nodes are saved in the SV file and paste it among those |
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| 19:34.01 | pakoz | http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9989/picsz4.jpg |
| 19:34.09 | pakoz | all right i'll check it out |
| 19:34.40 | pakoz | i dont seem to have any files in the saved variable for cartog |
| 19:35.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | find some random mining node, loot it, then close out wow and paste those^ right below it |
| 19:35.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's an awful lot of work for only 4 nodes |
| 19:35.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhh |
| 19:35.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're pasting them all |
| 19:35.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, do what i said |
| 19:36.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | run out to the nearest node, loot it, then exit out and add all those below it |
| 19:37.35 | pakoz | ok ^_^ thx |
| 19:37.39 | foxlit | Haha |
| 19:37.50 | foxlit | Something _is_ actually using precisely the same mechansim as I am |
| 19:38.58 | foxlit | And it's my code |
| 19:39.02 | foxlit | Funfunfun! |
| 19:39.13 | Aella | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.25 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/68568 |
| 19:39.44 | foxlit | It's awesome, but I forgot one line. |
| 19:40.58 | foxlit | Would've been a fun crash without the 50-rehook limit |
| 19:43.25 | pakoz | bleh! i cant find a node rofl |
| 19:43.35 | Industrial | Anyone use Yahoo Pipes? |
| 19:45.19 | foxlit | Is that like Yahoo Tubes? |
| 19:47.15 | Industrial | .. pipes.yahoo.com |
| 19:49.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4800msth7.jpg |
| 19:49.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 4800 MS T_T |
| 19:49.51 | Josh_Borke | SS or it didn't happen |
| 19:49.54 | Josh_Borke | ;-P |
| 19:50.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | ^ |
| 19:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | makes me resent the bear form mangle nerf :[ |
| 19:51.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | even more that is |
| 19:55.28 | pakoz | i still catn find the place to import that data |
| 19:55.50 | pakoz | for the mining data |
| 19:56.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't use Cartographer_Mining, but i use all the other ones, so i can't really help you |
| 19:57.04 | pakoz | ah, got it |
| 19:57.21 | Industrial | isnt it just a SV file? |
| 19:57.37 | pakoz | ya, its just i had the explorer window open looking for it |
| 19:57.47 | pakoz | then i went into the game, mined a node- creating the file |
| 19:57.47 | Industrial | .. |
| 19:58.00 | pakoz | when i browsed back it wasnt there cause it didnt get auto sorted ;x |
| 19:58.05 | pakoz | so i missed it ;x |
| 19:58.12 | Zeksie | self pwn |
| 19:58.15 | Industrial | fail =D |
| 19:58.16 | pakoz | indeed |
| 19:58.46 | deltron | ffffail |
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| 20:00.01 | DT_ | Argh, I can't for the life of me figure this out. Can anyone help me see why my minimap button is showing up in front of its border even though the button is in the ARTWORK layer and the border is in OVERLAY? http://wowi.pastey.net/68627 |
| 20:00.02 | foxlit | So, ideas plx! |
| 20:00.17 | foxlit | I obviously can't send [Tinfoil Hat] through chat as a text link |
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| 20:01.24 | Josh_Borke | frame levels |
| 20:02.12 | DT_ | But they're all in the same frame |
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| 20:07.40 | Zeksie | no.. ones created in button, one is created in frame. |
| 20:07.54 | DT_ | Ah crap |
| 20:07.57 | DT_ | That's it, thank you |
| 20:08.13 | DT_ | My bad Josh ;) Thought they were both created in button |
| 20:08.20 | Zeksie | :) |
| 20:09.12 | DT_ | Works like a charm now |
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| 20:17.01 | foxlit | Anyone know the flavour text color? |
| 20:17.52 | Josh_Borke | 42 |
| 20:18.14 | foxlit | 424242, then! |
| 20:20.49 | zenzelezz | flavor text? |
| 20:22.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | "It says 'zenzio is a noob' on the hilt" |
| 20:25.47 | foxlit | Okay, I need a placeholder item to hook tinfoil hat to |
| 20:36.52 | foxlit | Is the new ModifiedClick stuff live yet? |
| 20:38.46 | Zeksie | no |
| 20:38.52 | Zeksie | that's 2.2 |
| 20:43.40 | foxlit | Haha |
| 20:43.50 | foxlit | Every chat-related evil hook I try to make, Prat is already there |
| 20:44.47 | foxlit | ChatFrame1.AddMessage? Sure! |
| 20:49.29 | wereHamster | Shirik, you still here? |
| 20:58.12 | foxlit | Damn you, Prat, foiler of my evil plans! |
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| 21:01.33 | zenzelezz | foxlit: ditch Prat, replicate the parts you like :-p |
| 21:04.01 | foxlit | I've come up with a very, very, very evil way of working around it |
| 21:04.21 | pakoz | any pally tanks in here? or that know the spec very well? |
| 21:04.22 | foxlit | Unfortunately, more than two addons using this strategy will eventually cause a stack overlfow on ChatFrame_MessageEvent |
| 21:06.39 | zenzelezz | are you making this only for yourself or for an addon? |
| 21:07.21 | foxlit | AddOn. |
| 21:07.41 | foxlit | So it is an actual issue. |
| 21:07.47 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 21:07.51 | foxlit | Added a limit on the number of rehooks on that, should be fine. |
| 21:07.52 | foxlit | http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7104/orarewebv9.png |
| 21:09.10 | pastamancer | wouldn't it be easier to hook into prat? |
| 21:09.36 | foxlit | What if prat is not there? |
| 21:09.58 | pastamancer | then install a normal chat frame hook |
| 21:10.35 | foxlit | That requires waiting for prat to load :) |
| 21:10.48 | pastamancer | list it as an optional dependancy in the toc |
| 21:10.51 | foxlit | It would be easier if prat didn't eat changes made by hooks before it. |
| 21:11.47 | pastamancer | what is the purpose of your addmessage hook? |
| 21:12.00 | foxlit | Change formatting of some messages |
| 21:12.02 | foxlit | Colors and stuff |
| 21:12.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | foxlit |
| 21:12.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | you may wanna double check the text :P |
| 21:12.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | "incontrollabel" |
| 21:12.28 | foxlit | So when someone says Name [G4d], it'd actually appear as 7Name [G4] |
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| 21:12.55 | foxlit | I can fix that :) |
| 21:14.59 | pastamancer | if Prat.ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler then hook(Prat.ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler) else hook(ChatFrame_MessageEvent) end ? |
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| 21:19.08 | foxlit | That is actually more humane. |
| 21:19.19 | foxlit | Just have to postpone it until Prat hooks? |
| 21:19.23 | pastamancer | nah |
| 21:19.40 | pastamancer | just add "OptionalDeps: Prat" to your toc |
| 21:21.53 | foxlit | That'd be misusing the field :P |
| 21:22.05 | pastamancer | not at all |
| 21:22.39 | foxlit | Besides, I load after Prat by default due to naming. |
| 21:22.51 | foxlit | (it doesn't hook on load, though) |
| 21:22.57 | pastamancer | that's not guaranteed for linux and mac users |
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| 21:29.08 | foxlit | I wonder why it discards changes made by hooks below it, though |
| 21:30.24 | foxlit | Ah, it doesn't pass it downward at all. |
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| 21:33.37 | foxlit | Frankly, I don't know what to do with it. I don't really want to code around one addon that's behaving obnoxiously; at the same time, not doing it is undesirable as well |
| 21:35.08 | zenzelezz | just state is as an incompatibility, problem solved! |
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| 21:35.55 | Fin | foxlit: Prat *is* designed to *help* interoperability between chat addons :) |
| 21:36.26 | zenzelezz | his problem is that it undoes his changes if Prat runs after his hook; IIRC |
| 21:36.39 | Fin | I'm not sure how this would be taken on this channel -- I hope in the spirit I intend! -- but you could always use Prat_Plugin-1.0 |
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| 21:37.19 | Fin | sylvanaar created a version for embedding into other addons |
| 21:37.19 | Fin | I'm pretty sure it's quite lightweight |
| 21:37.22 | Fin | but, that's for you to decide |
| 21:37.36 | zenzelezz | wouldn't he impose Prat on those that don't already use it then? |
| 21:37.54 | Fin | I don't know, is using a library imposing something on them? |
| 21:37.59 | Fin | depends on your point of view |
| 21:38.34 | zenzelezz | I'd say it depends on what the library does; and from my understanding of what Prat does I would guess the library did somewhat the same. I'm only speculating |
| 21:38.52 | Fin | when foxlit doesn't answer, it means contempt! I am shamed |
| 21:39.03 | foxlit | Nah, not really :) |
| 21:39.13 | Fin | :) |
| 21:39.31 | foxlit | I don't mind the suggestion, and I don't really see why I'm being so miserable over it. |
| 21:39.49 | Fin | honestly, one of the things Prat tried (at least *tried*) to solve was all the different chat addons that were conflicting with each other |
| 21:39.51 | foxlit | It's still a form of coding around the issue, which is still annoying |
| 21:40.18 | Fin | it's supposed to provide a way that addons can easily update chat bits without breaking everything else |
| 21:40.36 | foxlit | At the moment that works by discarding their pile of hooks. |
| 21:40.47 | Fin | splitting the messages up into bits and reassembling them, and allowing addons to insert their own parts if they want |
| 21:41.07 | Fin | that's how AltNames does it |
| 21:41.24 | zenzelezz | but again, wasn't the problem that Prat ignored or undid the changes you tried to make foxlit? |
| 21:41.43 | foxlit | More or less, yeah. |
| 21:41.50 | Fin | well, previously chat addons were hooking into all sorts of weird places and it was almost impossible for any given addon to know where it might break another one |
| 21:42.11 | foxlit | 2.0 solved a lot of this by making most hook locations taint-producing |
| 21:42.11 | Fin | so yeah, I guess it's trying to stop that happening |
| 21:43.48 | Fin | personally I like the way it works :) that's why I started contributing bits in the first place, but I can understand seeing it as too much |
| 21:44.24 | zenzelezz | I don't think any of us are saying it's doing too much; just explaining why he's trying to work around it |
| 21:44.29 | Fin | I always thought Prat should be a library myself |
| 21:44.36 | Fin | it ended up as a framework |
| 21:44.57 | Fin | syl was really concerned about how to get people to see it as a framework rather than an addon, actually :) |
| 21:46.59 | Fin | apparently LibPrat wasn't approved by the Ace Overlords, btw :) |
| 21:47.34 | Fin | I am but a humble servant myself, but in a democratic world (... of Overlords) I say we should vote on it! :) |
| 21:48.00 | foxlit | Ace has overlords? |
| 21:48.08 | foxlit | Pastey is still getting spammed to hell :/ |
| 21:48.19 | Fin | Overlords, Underlords, Interlords, and Tubes |
| 21:48.20 | foxlit | Ended up doing http://wowi.pastey.net/68783 |
| 21:49.04 | foxlit | Instead of http://wowi.pastey.net/68784 |
| 21:50.21 | Fin | that's fair enough foxlit, but if another addon tries to do any chat colorization, it's possible (probable?) there'll be issues |
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| 21:51.08 | foxlit | Hm, I don't see how, unless they're replacing the exact same thing as I am, in which case even a framework solution wouldn't save us |
| 21:51.25 | Fin | they might not be replacing exactly the same thing, what about just part of it? |
| 21:52.07 | foxlit | I'd say the chunks are more or less atomic |
| 21:52.29 | foxlit | And it plays nice; one of the hooks will end up changing color of the final output; not like it can be both |
| 21:53.22 | Fin | arg1 = string.gsub(arg1,"((%S+) %[G(%d)(%a)%])",RAB_ChatFrame_Colorize); -- is the bit I reckon might cause problems |
| 21:54.05 | Fin | if the text matched by (%S+) is something another addon is trying to alter (maybe change to a link? create a popup?) then it could bork? |
| 21:54.49 | Fin | sorry, I'll shut up |
| 21:54.52 | foxlit | rNot really :) |
| 21:55.04 | Fin | I sound like a religious zealot or something :) |
| 21:55.13 | foxlit | It'll replace rougly by %2 [G%3] |
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| 21:55.54 | Fin | foxlit: can you give an example of a string before and after? |
| 21:56.02 | Fin | just out of curiosity |
| 21:56.50 | foxlit | <Buffs> Arcane Intellect is missing on: Somedruid [G1d], Someotherdruid[G2d], Apriest [G3p], Lockperson [G3l] |
| 21:57.47 | foxlit | <Buffs> Arcane Intellect is missing on: 7Somedruid0 [G1], Someotherdruid 7Somedruid0 [G2], 15Apriest0 [G3], 6Lockperson0 [G3] |
| 21:57.54 | foxlit | Ah hell |
| 21:58.09 | foxlit | <Buffs> Arcane Intellect is missing on: 7Somedruid1 [G1], Someotherdruid 7Somedruid1 [G2], 15Apriest1 [G3], 6Lockperson1 [G3] |
| 21:58.11 | Fin | heheh |
| 21:58.32 | foxlit | Minus my typing issues :) |
| 21:58.41 | Fin | pastey it :) heheh |
| 21:58.45 | foxlit | But you get the idea - color is applied to tname based on the letter after group number |
| 21:59.06 | Fin | heh, yeah, got it :) |
| 21:59.40 | Fin | nice |
| 22:26.20 | Fin | if I hook a function inside an addon, the functions that I want to hook are still within that addon's scope, right? |
| 22:27.08 | Fin | eg, I hook OnUpdate in addon MyAddon that also has a function :Hello(), inside my OnUpdate function that's hooked, I can do self:Hello(), right? |
| 22:27.19 | Fin | left? |
| 22:27.38 | foxlit | Yes |
| 22:27.41 | Fin | thanks |
| 22:27.45 | foxlit | Assuming self.Hello is public rather than an upvalue |
| 22:27.50 | Fin | it is |
| 22:33.14 | foxlit | If you whisper yourself, are yo usupposed to get the whisper or notification first? |
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| 22:41.40 | MentalPower | foxlit: its not defined |
| 22:42.03 | MentalPower | I *think* you get the notification first |
| 22:42.09 | MentalPower | but it might be a race condition |
| 22:46.32 | Lunessa | I find no entertainment in forums today. |
| 22:47.37 | zenzelezz | can you actually whisper yourself? |
| 22:47.41 | foxlit | Yes |
| 22:47.52 | zenzelezz | peculiar |
| 22:48.54 | Shirik | so I just got Qt today |
| 22:48.57 | Shirik | need to learn how to use it :( |
| 22:49.04 | Shirik | bleeter! |
| 22:49.14 | zenzelezz | "got Qt"? |
| 22:49.20 | Shirik | downloaded the source/libs etc |
| 22:49.30 | Shirik | never coded with it before |
| 22:51.28 | pastamancer | Qt is nice... I haven't touched it in years though |
| 22:53.18 | Shirik | I was thinking of making an IRC client with Qt |
| 22:53.22 | Shirik | just to see if I can |
| 22:53.33 | zenzelezz | just be sure to Ace it |
| 22:53.37 | Shirik | >. |
| 22:53.43 | Shirik | .NET too right? |
| 22:53.57 | zenzelezz | nah |
| 22:55.09 | Industrial | xkcd catandgirl smbc the-noob ctrl-alt-del pvp darklegacy penny-arcade little-gamers vgcats questionable-content http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.run?_id=PAHQhBsk3BG5Dt4A1_C6Jw&_render=rss |
| 22:55.15 | Industrial | throw moar comics at me |
| 22:55.35 | Industrial | I want to include Order of the stick but they dont even support DATES |
| 22:56.45 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, http://www.thewebcomiclist.com/profile.php?order=ranking |
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| 22:59.01 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: nooo no indies :P |
| 22:59.09 | Industrial | or.. furry crap for that matter |
| 22:59.20 | Thunder_Child | it's a whole list... |
| 23:00.08 | Industrial | it counts til 8973... |
| 23:00.10 | pastamancer | Industrial: quantz |
| 23:00.13 | Industrial | (then stops counting) |
| 23:00.42 | pastamancer | err, qwantz |
| 23:01.31 | pastamancer | and perry bible fellowship |
| 23:03.16 | Industrial | omg yes @ last, how could I forget |
| 23:04.35 | Lunessa | Order of the Stick is the shizzle. |
| 23:04.51 | Industrial | qwantz seems ot be the same panels with dinosaurs, but with different text - a lot of text, and thats it? :P |
| 23:05.17 | Industrial | Lunessa: yes, yes it is. But their rss feed doesnt support dates so i cant sort it right :( |
| 23:05.36 | zenzelezz | I enjoy Gucomics |
| 23:05.38 | Lunessa | :( |
| 23:06.19 | pastamancer | Industrial: yup, it's pretty funny though |
| 23:07.27 | pastamancer | http://www.qwantz.com/archive/000936.html |
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| 23:31.52 | Shirik | ~ping dolby-wowi |
| 23:31.53 | purl | pong dolby-wowi |
| 23:32.00 | Shirik | er |
| 23:37.50 | Corrodias | LA LA LA LA LA |
| 23:37.57 | Corrodias | one hundred mana potions for this week's kara raid! |
| 23:38.05 | Corrodias | i'm a flower picking machine |
| 23:38.10 | [dRaCo] | that's like... 97 too many. |
| 23:38.59 | Corrodias | i'm a feral druid and don't use mana potions |
| 23:39.07 | Shirik | what's a potion? |
| 23:39.10 | Shirik | is it shiny? |
| 23:39.13 | Corrodias | these are the "backup supply" for a few weeks in case the raid runs low while trying to down illhoof or something |
| 23:39.18 | Corrodias | *raids |
| 23:39.40 | Lunessa | Shiny, candy colored, tasty? |
| 23:39.58 | Corrodias | they're made of weed & glory |
| 23:40.11 | Corrodias | probably not so much tasty as mind-opening |
| 23:40.13 | [dRaCo] | great, weed. |
| 23:41.06 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
| 23:41.25 | Fin | however, that's just an opinion |
| 23:41.31 | Fin | :) |
| 23:41.42 | Lunessa | Don't get high on your own supply, you cats dig? |
| 23:41.53 | Fin | woah |
| 23:41.58 | Fin | heavy |
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| 23:42.08 | [dRaCo] | tbh, I didn't use anything besides one health stone and one mana pot for our first all clear karazhan run |
| 23:42.21 | Fin | I bet you have a huge penis too |
| 23:42.27 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
| 23:42.37 | Corrodias | i only use a couple of elixirs. that's how leet i am. |
| 23:42.43 | zenzelezz | I always carry 200+ heavy bandages; and they don't heal me more than about 25% |
| 23:42.47 | foxlit | You must in fact kill the bosses while Debuffed! |
| 23:42.48 | Fin | I use elixirs constantly |
| 23:43.04 | Fin | for levelling and stuff |
| 23:43.04 | [dRaCo] | You furry guys just cant open those pot bottles, admit it ;þ |
| 23:43.19 | Lunessa | Nothing wrong with using whatever mechanical advantages you have available. |
| 23:43.31 | foxlit | If pastey actually loaded, it'd be great addon conspiracy time |
| 23:43.50 | zenzelezz | it's not "conspiracy", it's "zomgspiracy" |
| 23:45.40 | [dRaCo] | ~hypnotoad |
| 23:45.41 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
| 23:45.50 | [dRaCo] | good girl. |
| 23:46.52 | foxlit | Zomg, they killed pastey! |
| 23:46.54 | foxlit | "Could not connect to MySQL server!" :( |
| 23:51.09 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Soulless (i=Fridgid@24.96.171.248) |
| 23:57.09 | *** join/#wowi-lounge gaurong (n=ilovemrd@212-1-142-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
