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| 00:00.10 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10781 |
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| 00:19.12 | bleeter | zenzelezz: came very close to DEing both my main melee and range weapons... had been killing and looting lots, the green trash to DE had gotten mixed up in my usable items bag (prolly due to outfitter switching) |
| 00:19.35 | zenzelezz | ouch |
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| 00:20.02 | bleeter | but yeah, should be a 'destroy' confirmation dialog for DE blues or greater |
| 00:20.04 | zenzelezz | post about it on the suggestions forum; or ask if it's intentional, I would expect the same warning as when deleting |
| 00:20.16 | bleeter | I have, twice, already ;) |
| 00:21.12 | bleeter | "Hints say we get a warning when Blue or better is destroyed' DE tooltip warns us that the original item will be destroyed, yet the destruction dialog isn't shown. We looked into hooking this in Enchantrix, but as we can only hook the return, there's nothing mod authors can do" |
| 00:21.16 | bleeter | or similar |
| 00:21.19 | bleeter | I'm just damning them again |
| 00:22.43 | bleeter | BUT what I hate more than that |
| 00:22.52 | bleeter | sneezing and not being able to find a decent monitor wipe |
| 00:23.05 | zenzelezz | try not sneezing on the monitor next time |
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| 01:54.39 | Thrae | Last flood |
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| 02:01.23 | clad|away | channel's been quiet tonight |
| 02:01.48 | clad|away | Shirik: New cladbot up in #luabot if you want to try breaking.. I had to remove coroutines from the implementation to make the sandbox work properly in a full irc client |
| 02:01.56 | clad|away | err i mean a lua irc client |
| 02:13.30 | zenzelezz | did they nerf Stratholme at some point? I could swear the pulls inside the human part were four mobs, but so far they seem to be only three |
| 02:16.38 | Tem | oh man |
| 02:16.44 | Tem | here goes 5000 gold in the sink |
| 02:16.54 | zenzelezz | epic? |
| 02:17.03 | Tem | oh god |
| 02:17.06 | Tem | what color do I buy? |
| 02:17.16 | zenzelezz | white! |
| 02:17.26 | Tem | they don't sell white, asshole |
| 02:17.39 | zenzelezz | you're note horde, are you? |
| 02:17.57 | Zicon | I always go for the most sickly colour available. |
| 02:18.02 | Zicon | But then again, I play forsaken. |
| 02:18.10 | Tem | ah, do the horde have a white one? |
| 02:18.20 | Tem | because like, I would like the white mount in epic form |
| 02:18.57 | zenzelezz | don't alliance have a white epic? They have a normal white :-o |
| 02:20.04 | Shadowed | white is the non-epic one |
| 02:20.50 | zenzelezz | there are more than one you know |
| 02:23.11 | Tem | no, alliance doesn't have a white epic |
| 02:23.16 | Tem | red, blue, green, purple |
| 02:23.19 | Tem | I bought blue |
| 02:24.37 | zenzelezz | odd; aren't the horse colors the same for epic/normal? |
| 02:25.22 | Legorol | poll of the day: |
| 02:25.28 | Legorol | how do each of you feel about PvP twinks? |
| 02:25.33 | Legorol | what's your gut reaction? |
| 02:25.37 | Legorol | hate? don't care? love? |
| 02:26.07 | zenzelezz | couldn't care less |
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| 02:26.36 | Legorol | ever do a BG? how do you feel when you come up against a twink? |
| 02:26.47 | Legorol | (mind you i am not stating my opinion either way yet ;_) ) |
| 02:27.29 | Legorol | ow, i gotta go actually |
| 02:27.36 | zenzelezz | haven't done PvP in over a year; but my opinion is the same. The real PvPers at level 70 are also twinks, they just don't have it easier to get their equipment |
| 02:27.53 | zenzelezz | uhm, -don't |
| 02:28.08 | zenzelezz | trying to change my sentence half-way through while grinding Stratholme = fail |
| 02:28.28 | Tem | I _hate_ them |
| 02:28.46 | Tem | they completely ruin pvp for non-twinks |
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| 03:10.05 | Industrial | Cant blame people for using the game as it was made. Its possible so the smart(er) will win. |
| 03:10.11 | Industrial | imho |
| 03:10.31 | Industrial | though they should gimp enchants imho |
| 03:12.22 | bleeter | dunno 'bout gimping enchants. in theory, BG matching will be good, my big question is whether there's enough twinks etc. around to make it work. |
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| 03:14.32 | Industrial | 10v10 twinks might be fun for the "in" people that know everything about it |
| 03:14.54 | Industrial | but thats only a fraction of the people that (want to(!)) play in bgs |
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| 03:15.33 | Industrial | so I think its better if blizzard would restrict items and enchants for levels. |
| 03:16.25 | Industrial | I think the rest is fair because of the amount of time you put in it. |
| 03:17.02 | Industrial | cant win with skill alone in an mmorpg :P |
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| 03:33.52 | abug | it's impossible to sort tables with non-numeric keys right? |
| 03:36.45 | pakoz | anyone have a recommendation for a mod to move Eye of the storm flag bar from beneat the minimap to a custom location? |
| 03:40.20 | Thrae | Hmmmmm |
| 03:42.10 | Rasia | wIs there a arena channel like a guild channel? |
| 03:42.31 | AnduinLothar | pakoz: FluidFrames can do it |
| 03:42.39 | norganna | I actually find twink vs twink matches fun |
| 03:43.14 | norganna | what makes me groan is when our side ends up with non-twinks and get matched vs a twink team |
| 03:43.16 | Thrae | Any idea why hooking GameTooltip's OnTooltipSetUnit handler would hide the HealthBar? Hmmm... |
| 03:47.55 | Tem | you did it wrong? |
| 03:48.05 | abug | kek |
| 03:53.09 | GofG | What are you talking about? No! Not at all! No! THAT ORPHANAGE WAS GOING TO ATTACK ME! IT WAS A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE! |
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| 03:56.52 | norganna | Abug: No, it's not |
| 03:57.19 | norganna | you can't do a table.sort on it, that's true. |
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| 04:00.09 | zenzelezz | heh... Life on (EU-)Silvermoon, June edition: http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=506677 |
| 04:00.15 | norganna | possibly the easiest way to sort it is to do something like: local sortTable = {}; for key,value in pairs(myTable) do table.insert(sortTable, key) end; table.sort(sortTable, function(a,b) return myTable[a]<myTable[b] end) |
| 04:02.37 | norganna | after that, you'll end up with a sorted table of keys (sortTable), which you can iterate through to get the values from the original table (myTable) |
| 04:04.09 | norganna | (that above was for abug if they're still around) |
| 04:05.06 | abug | ah I was hoping I wouldn't have to use a second table or a metatable |
| 04:05.55 | norganna | i don't think there's any way around it |
| 04:06.43 | norganna | you can't get the associative portion of a table out in any order other than the hashed order that it's stored in |
| 04:07.21 | norganna | if you want to maintain order, you need either a second table, or to store the data in an indexed fashion |
| 04:07.41 | norganna | ( in the first place, i mean ) |
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| 04:08.52 | abug | thanks |
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| 04:34.15 | bleeter | man, that's the fourth time this week I've reported ITGU as a spammer, wouldn've thought the URL would be blocked ingame by now :/ |
| 04:34.24 | bleeter | *IGTU |
| 04:34.40 | WobWork | InstantGoldToU? |
| 04:34.49 | bleeter | no idea, I ain't visiting their site |
| 04:35.04 | WobWork | IGankTaurenUnstoppably |
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| 04:39.13 | ckknight | ImGoodToUrmom |
| 04:40.19 | abug | remind me not to play scattergories with you |
| 04:41.07 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:52.40 | Thrae | My damn gaming machine is giving me ~6 FPS and I don't know why...ugh. I'm not sure if it's the Video Card or Windows yet -- I'll need to do a lot more testing. I've been trying to figure this out for a while. Sometimes my video card comes up "Device cannot start." |
| 04:58.23 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, Ping |
| 04:58.30 | ckknight | pong! |
| 04:58.55 | Thunder_Child | all of my "seen areas of cart are totaly transparent...is that just me or is it a known issue? |
| 04:59.12 | Thunder_Child | s/en/en"/ |
| 04:59.20 | ckknight | just you, afaik |
| 04:59.23 | ckknight | are you fully updated? |
| 04:59.38 | Thunder_Child | as of this morning |
| 04:59.43 | Thrae | GameTooltip is the spawn of the evil |
| 04:59.47 | ckknight | hrm, it works for me |
| 04:59.51 | ckknight | Thrae: no rebuttal from here |
| 05:00.24 | Thunder_Child | and if i bring up the transparency, it just show blank areas of the map |
| 05:00.29 | Thrae | ckknight: TinyTip is very simple and very tiny, but for some reason, it's stopping the healthbar from showing. I see from your CowTip code you just make your own healthbar? |
| 05:00.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:00.43 | ckknight | simplest for me |
| 05:00.52 | ckknight | plus allows for crazy positioning and stuff |
| 05:00.53 | Thrae | ckknight: Did you figure out -why- it was happening, or just did that? |
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| 05:01.04 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 05:01.08 | ckknight | never looked too deep |
| 05:01.13 | ckknight | couldn't figure out how Blizz's health bar worked |
| 05:01.22 | ckknight | too many inter-file references |
| 05:01.29 | Thrae | Well lemme see if the original TinyTip has the health bar... |
| 05:01.37 | Thrae | This sounds like a bug to me |
| 05:11.26 | WobWork | it did! |
| 05:11.28 | WobWork | I miss it =( |
| 05:11.31 | WobWork | lots =( |
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| 05:55.29 | batrick | http://wowi.pastey.net/70190 |
| 05:55.35 | batrick | does anyone see why that doesn't work? |
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| 06:03.12 | batrick | jeeze that's really frustrating |
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| 07:35.44 | abug | purl, eat me |
| 07:35.45 | purl | ACTION eats abug and falls over dead |
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| 07:37.51 | zenzelezz | so I decided to try Stratholme solo on my 70 protection spec warrior earlier... was able to do most of it, but gave up the Cannoneer wing, whatever it's called, after the first pack of three healers took me the better part of five minutes waiting for them to go OOM |
| 07:38.03 | zenzelezz | human Stratholme that is |
| 07:39.15 | AnduinLothar | i did it as a ret pally, but yeah, it takes a while |
| 07:39.19 | AnduinLothar | easier with a healer |
| 07:39.27 | pakoz | any 25man-raid fury warriors around |
| 07:49.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i either do too low dps or die too fast to solo strat :[ |
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| 07:49.48 | zenzelezz | I'm sucky DPS, no doubt, but with my gear I take some effort to kill. There were a few close calls though |
| 07:51.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | bear form's absolutely abysmal dps, and cat form gets destroyed |
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| 08:06.27 | zenzelezz | every day I kill at least three Aether Rays, forgetting to wrangle them |
| 08:08.03 | Corrodias | bear form damage on level 60 enemies isn't terrible... |
| 08:08.20 | Corrodias | and cat gear might be just as effective, if it has lots of agility for dodge |
| 08:08.32 | Corrodias | what with the lower armor cap and all |
| 08:09.09 | Corrodias | i was able to solo it all as a bear except for those skeletons before the baron. there were just too many. |
| 08:13.01 | AnduinLothar | as long as i dont take more than 1 pull i can solo on my pally |
| 08:13.09 | AnduinLothar | long as i take enough water with me |
| 08:13.16 | AnduinLothar | have to drink after every pull |
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| 09:56.57 | foxlit | -- lose leading, trailing and multiple blanks |
| 09:56.57 | foxlit | function AKSBuffRemind:Trim(s) |
| 09:56.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.58 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.00 | foxlit | end |
| 09:57.31 | foxlit | Ace needs a trim function, obviously |
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| 10:03.19 | krka | return s:gsub("^%s+",""):gsub("%s+$",""):gsub("%s%s+"," ") ftw |
| 10:06.16 | foxlit | ftl, too many gsub calls |
| 10:06.32 | foxlit | can easily do it with one less |
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| 10:08.08 | krka | you know... it really is linux that's plug and play. new soundcard installed. didnt have to do any software related update |
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| 10:38.24 | dieck | foxlit: you can speed your trim function up by 1 gsub: instead of substituting the spaces at the beginning und end with nothing, just get the middle part: s = string.gsub(s, "^%s*(.-)%s*$", "%1") |
| 10:39.05 | zenzelezz | well that's new... "For only 20g/month will craft for you all the gems you want for free!" Never seen a crafter offer a subscription before |
| 10:39.50 | dieck | hm, maybe that works with alchemy too |
| 10:39.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:40.15 | clad|away | why not use string.trim() |
| 10:40.16 | clad|away | ? |
| 10:40.57 | dieck | hm, i did not found that anywhere? |
| 10:41.19 | dieck | but looking to wowwiki, I just see |
| 10:41.19 | dieck | These are custom string functions available in WoW but not normal Lua. |
| 10:41.20 | dieck | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.21 | clad|away | its a wow specific function, but it certainly exists :P |
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| 10:41.47 | dieck | ok, that should do it :) |
| 10:41.50 | clad|away | lua> string.trim(" This is a poopy string ") |
| 10:41.50 | cladbot | clad|away: This is a poopy string, |
| 10:42.07 | clad|away | lua> print(":" .. string.trim(" This is a poopy string ") .. ":") |
| 10:42.07 | cladbot | clad|away: :This is a poopy string: |
| 10:42.27 | zenzelezz | lua> string.trim("hrm mrh") |
| 10:42.27 | cladbot | zenzelezz: hrm mrh, |
| 10:42.44 | zenzelezz | doesn't cover the double-spaces |
| 10:42.55 | clad|away | trim doesn't do anything in the middle. |
| 10:43.00 | clad|away | by definition |
| 10:43.02 | dieck | ok. now which one is faster, string.trim or strtrim? and has the Lua built in Wow the string.trim available? why would blizzard code strtrim then? |
| 10:43.08 | zenzelezz | the function they were talking about did though |
| 10:43.20 | clad|away | that's not what "trim" does tho in any language |
| 10:43.28 | clad|away | trim always removes the space fromt he beginning and the end |
| 10:43.33 | dieck | ack |
| 10:43.34 | clad|away | strtrim is faster |
| 10:43.39 | zenzelezz | I'm not talking about a standard trim |
| 10:43.43 | MoonWolf | no suprise there. |
| 10:43.45 | clad|away | local strtrim = string.trim is the fastest |
| 10:43.47 | zenzelezz | I'm talking about the functionality of the function they discussed |
| 10:44.07 | clad|away | well, that's why i asked. |
| 10:44.10 | clad|away | that could very well be the answer |
| 10:44.19 | clad|away | But i wanted to present the function either way |
| 10:44.37 | dieck | so, you can substitute the first 2 gsub by string.trim or strtrim, and let the last gsub get the doubles |
| 10:44.39 | clad|away | dieck: string.trim and strtrim are the same function, Blizzard just puts it in both places |
| 10:44.49 | dieck | clad|away: ah, ok |
| 10:45.15 | clad|away | so you want to replace any multiple whitespace with single whitespasce as well? |
| 10:45.50 | foxlit | clad|away: Tbh, I don't know why that rather than string.trim. |
| 10:46.04 | clad|away | lua> string.gsub("monkey butt", "(%s)+", "%1") |
| 10:46.04 | cladbot | clad|away: monkey butt, 0, |
| 10:46.09 | foxlit | I was browsing recently added addons on curse, and looking through code of particulary evil ones |
| 10:46.17 | clad|away | boo, didn't think that would work hehe |
| 10:46.19 | foxlit | Can't do that |
| 10:46.22 | clad|away | yeah it would be nice :P |
| 10:46.30 | clad|away | figured it was worth trying |
| 10:46.32 | foxlit | But you can do something else |
| 10:46.45 | foxlit | lua> string.gsub("monkey butt", "%s%1+", "%1") |
| 10:47.15 | foxlit | Hm, errors and stuff |
| 10:47.52 | dieck | hm, clad|away, what about string.gsub("monkey butt", "((%s)+)", "%2")? haven't got a online lua here :) |
| 10:48.13 | foxlit | It's the + not working on (%s) |
| 10:48.26 | clad|away | dieck: You can just prefix it with lua> and the bot will run your command |
| 10:48.30 | clad|away | lua> print("poo face") |
| 10:48.30 | cladbot | clad|away: poo face |
| 10:48.34 | dieck | oh |
| 10:48.36 | foxlit | lua> error("boo!") |
| 10:48.36 | cladbot | foxlit: [string "error("boo!")"]:1: boo! |
| 10:48.41 | dieck | lua> string.gsub("monkey butt", "((%s)+)", "%2") |
| 10:48.41 | cladbot | dieck: monkey butt, 0, |
| 10:48.45 | dieck | that's nice :) |
| 10:48.45 | foxlit | lua> ifalicious |
| 10:48.46 | cladbot | foxlit: nil |
| 10:48.49 | foxlit | grrr |
| 10:48.56 | foxlit | Why did it eat my error message but not do that? |
| 10:48.58 | cladbot | I'm a happy bot! |
| 10:49.18 | clad|away | foxlit: Not do what? |
| 10:49.29 | foxlit | lua> string.gsub("monkey butt", "%s%1+", "%1") |
| 10:49.35 | foxlit | This fails to compile regex |
| 10:49.52 | foxlit | I know why it does that, but there's no audible error from cladbot :) |
| 10:49.57 | clad|away | lemme look ) |
| 10:50.46 | clad|away | oh, interesting |
| 10:50.52 | clad|away | its because of the % |
| 10:51.01 | clad|away | its part of the response that gets fed back to you |
| 10:51.05 | clad|away | so its looking for a value to plug in there. |
| 10:51.08 | clad|away | time to escape that :P |
| 10:51.46 | foxlit | Well |
| 10:51.54 | foxlit | lua> string.gsub("monkey butt", "(%s)%1", "%1") |
| 10:51.55 | cladbot | foxlit: monkey butt, 2, |
| 10:51.58 | foxlit | but not |
| 10:52.04 | foxlit | lua> string.gsub("monkey butt", "(%s)%1+", "%1") |
| 10:52.04 | cladbot | foxlit: monkey butt, 0, |
| 10:54.48 | clad|away | there ya go |
| 10:54.49 | clad|away | lua> string.gsub("monkey butt", "%s%1+", "%1") |
| 10:54.49 | cladbot | clad|away: [string "string.gsub("monkey butt", "%s%1+", "%1..."]:1: invalid capture index |
| 10:54.58 | clad|away | sorry bout that :P |
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| 12:47.39 | krka | gah, i can't get DrawRouteLine to work nicely for me |
| 12:48.01 | clad|away | =/' |
| 12:50.19 | krka | any tips for drawing lines on the world map? |
| 12:51.05 | clad|away | ask iriel =/ |
| 12:53.32 | krka | hey... it works now |
| 12:53.33 | krka | weird |
| 12:54.09 | clad|away | see, the mere mention of Iriel was enough to scare it into submission |
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| 12:54.35 | krka | indeed |
| 12:55.05 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, normal people! |
| 12:56.51 | clad|away | morning |
| 12:56.59 | clad|away | oh, you weren't referring to me. |
| 12:57.01 | clad|away | y bad |
| 12:57.17 | Lopeppeppy | I figured I'd get at least one crazy to bite anyway. :) |
| 12:58.51 | GnancyWK | Goodmoring Normalish people .... wait that dosent work for too many either |
| 12:59.55 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning to everyone who has delusions of both normalacy and abstraction? |
| 13:00.48 | clad|away | lol |
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| 13:25.01 | Cairenn | ckknight_: if you are willing, I'd love to hear what it is that we aren't doing that you need? only way we can improve is if folks talk to us |
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| 13:27.20 | zenzelezz | did I miss something? |
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| 13:30.10 | Cairenn | (5:49:04 AM) mitch0: anyone here using wowi to publish their release quality mods? |
| 13:30.10 | Cairenn | (5:49:11 AM) Wobin_: yeah |
| 13:30.10 | Cairenn | (5:49:28 AM) ckknight: mitch0: I kinda gave up on that |
| 13:30.10 | Cairenn | (5:49:32 AM) mitch0: wobin: do you know if it's possible to rename a mod with keeping its history somehow? |
| 13:30.10 | Cairenn | (5:49:33 AM) ckknight: curse is better to me |
| 13:30.33 | zenzelezz | peculiar |
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| 13:30.57 | TS|Skrom | morning |
| 13:31.01 | Cairenn | so, just want to know what we need to fix is all |
| 13:31.57 | TS|Skrom | personally I don't know what he could mean, the control panel at WoWI is pretty intuitive and the update tools are pretty straightforward |
| 13:32.18 | Cairenn | heh, no no, you missed the first part of the conversation |
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| 13:32.26 | TS|Skrom | ohh |
| 13:32.27 | Cairenn | (9:24:58 AM) Cairenn: ckknight_: if you are willing, I'd love to hear what it is that we aren't doing that you need? only way we can improve is if folks talk to us |
| 13:32.32 | Cairenn | (9:27:17 AM) zenzelezz: did I miss something? |
| 13:32.48 | Cairenn | then you logged in, then my paste |
| 13:33.16 | TS|Skrom | mmhmmm |
| 13:33.52 | TS|Skrom | from a standalone mod author's standpoint though I still can't think of anything personally :-) |
| 13:34.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, that does make think of one thing - wowi doesn't have a a changelog box, no? |
| 13:34.54 | N00bZXI | I was thinking the same |
| 13:34.55 | Cairenn | not per sae, no |
| 13:34.59 | clad|away | I've suggested it, just as a seperate box on the update screen |
| 13:35.03 | clad|away | would make our lives much easier. |
| 13:35.17 | Cairenn | dolby-wowi is planning on adding it, I believe, just hasn't had time yet |
| 13:36.26 | Cairenn | but by all means guys, tell us what you think we are missing - we may not add it, or we may not add it right away, but we always consider it |
| 13:37.46 | zenzelezz | definitely needs some pictures of the administratrix |
| 13:37.56 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 13:41.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Kitties! That's what you need :) |
| 13:42.02 | Kirkburn|afk | MeowInterface :P |
| 13:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | Don't tempt me, Kirkburn|afk... I'm a new cat-mommy, I'd dooooo eeeet! |
| 13:43.36 | Cairenn | :) |
| 13:44.05 | Cairenn | have kitties on the site! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?userid=6 |
| 13:44.12 | Cairenn | look at my sig |
| 13:44.18 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 13:44.54 | Lopeppeppy | I've always liked "I made you a cookies, but I eated it." |
| 13:45.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh /me wonders who users 2, 4, and 5 were :P |
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| 13:46.02 | Kirkburn|afk | (1= dolby, 3 = kudane) |
| 13:46.15 | Cairenn | yeah, I like that one too Lopeppeppy, but since I'm such a "hug"gy person ... |
| 13:46.30 | Cairenn | Kirkburn|afk: ? |
| 13:46.33 | zenzelezz | demand proof |
| 13:46.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Cairenn, "member.php?userid=6" |
| 13:46.56 | Cairenn | ah |
| 13:47.03 | Kirkburn|afk | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/06/29/i-m-in-ur-internet/ |
| 13:48.02 | Kirkburn|afk | One could spend all day linking icanhazcheezburger and CureOverload |
| 13:48.05 | Kirkburn|afk | *Cute |
| 13:48.23 | zenzelezz | you make kitty scared |
| 13:48.35 | Lopeppeppy | I get all mine from http://www.acc.umu.se/%7Ezqad/cats/ -- beware, it's a thumbnail gallery so it loads slow if you're bad with pictures. |
| 13:49.27 | Cairenn | Something I've been wondering (again admits to her ignorance re coding) what does "stdio" in "can has stdio?" stand for? That is the only one I've never been able to figure out for sure. I have some guesses, but ... |
| 13:49.53 | zenzelezz | old-school C header file, standard I/O |
| 13:50.04 | Cairenn | ah, of course |
| 13:50.12 | Cairenn | thank you, my guesses were way off |
| 13:50.35 | krka | omg that's so ignorant! |
| 13:50.41 | krka | i cant believe you admitted that |
| 13:50.48 | Cairenn | lol |
| 13:51.29 | zenzelezz | there are worse things to be ignorant about |
| 13:52.32 | TS|Skrom | haha http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/06/25/im-runnin-down-ur-wallz/ |
| 13:52.55 | Cairenn | rofl! |
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| 13:55.18 | zenzelezz | http://www.dropline.net/cats/kitty/emokitteh2 |
| 13:57.11 | TS|Skrom | lol |
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| 13:58.09 | TS|Skrom | Let's talk warlock today |
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| 13:58.16 | Gnancy_ | you first |
| 13:58.21 | TS|Skrom | Dinged 61 over the weekend, and been getting all this fancy hellfire gear |
| 13:58.26 | TS|Skrom | over 6k mana now. |
| 13:58.31 | Gnancy_ | mana booooooo |
| 13:58.39 | TS|Skrom | with my +damage I can drain my pet in 3 casts of dark pact now |
| 13:58.45 | TS|Skrom | and it doesn't fill half my bar |
| 13:58.52 | TS|Skrom | Gnancy_ I don't go for mana |
| 13:58.59 | TS|Skrom | it's a side effect of the +damage gear I've been getting |
| 13:59.02 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent! Er.... was thinking you were pally-talking again. |
| 13:59.18 | Gnancy_ | I drain my poor imp in two casts |
| 13:59.32 | TS|Skrom | really? okay so I'm wondering if I'd do better with a different build |
| 13:59.34 | zenzelezz | I drain your imp in one crit |
| 13:59.41 | TS|Skrom | not my imp! |
| 13:59.45 | TS|Skrom | he's always phase shifted :p |
| 14:00.28 | TS|Skrom | it just seems like all of the sudden I've got to lifetap more then I had to before |
| 14:00.40 | Gnancy_ | I ran a heroic last night and for some reason I thought I was demon again. I was LT all the time (going to half mana half health and eating/drinking) |
| 14:00.48 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 14:00.56 | Gnancy_ | usally I LT once in a while really |
| 14:01.01 | TS|Skrom | I like being low maintenance, which DP helped with |
| 14:01.18 | Gnancy_ | just enough to regen thru siphon and DL when I do |
| 14:01.37 | Gnancy_ | yeah afflict in a raid is really low maintenance |
| 14:02.05 | TS|Skrom | yeah in instance groups I tend to shy away from siphon only for the fact it's high mana per damage and I don't tend to need the healing |
| 14:02.20 | TS|Skrom | if I do put siphon (say on a boss) I'll usually lifetap as soon as my mana is low enough |
| 14:02.40 | Gnancy_ | eh in instances usally siphon takes to long to be used on single targets |
| 14:02.56 | Gnancy_ | but on a buncha targets |
| 14:03.13 | TS|Skrom | yeah |
| 14:03.16 | Gnancy_ | tho |
| 14:03.18 | TS|Skrom | just like doom ^^ |
| 14:03.21 | TS|Skrom | love that spell X |
| 14:03.22 | TS|Skrom | XD |
| 14:03.33 | Gnancy_ | personally I use LT and/or DP when I can for mana |
| 14:03.44 | Gnancy_ | casue if either are full they arnt regening |
| 14:04.01 | TS|Skrom | yep, I'm going to have to start playing around a little differently I suppose |
| 14:04.07 | TS|Skrom | the pet's just not cutting it |
| 14:04.09 | Gnancy_ | so about 3/4 mana on a boss or long trash |
| 14:04.17 | TS|Skrom | if it weren't for the blood pact hehe... |
| 14:04.32 | Gnancy_ | well tbh i was demon since MC to karazhan |
| 14:04.39 | Gnancy_ | then one day |
| 14:04.51 | Gnancy_ | I went afflict for some reason |
| 14:05.18 | Gnancy_ | its so much better for me when raiding and soloing |
| 14:05.19 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IyMbVRfzVdZcxczhb |
| 14:05.23 | TS|Skrom | here's my current |
| 14:05.34 | Gnancy_ | but personally I think demon is better for leveling |
| 14:06.34 | Gnancy_ | going demonic sac? |
| 14:07.01 | Gnancy_ | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Gnancy here is my current |
| 14:07.35 | TS|Skrom | no, going down to unstable afflic |
| 14:07.55 | TS|Skrom | the 17 was for the extra pet mana, extra health (form improved imp, and DE) |
| 14:07.55 | Gnancy_ | I really really like UA then the rest in dest |
| 14:08.00 | TS|Skrom | and for the fast casting emergency pet |
| 14:08.11 | Gnancy_ | yeah i miss that |
| 14:08.58 | Gnancy_ | you got alot in suppression tho |
| 14:09.09 | TS|Skrom | I do |
| 14:09.11 | TS|Skrom | but that' |
| 14:09.21 | Gnancy_ | its nice but I wouldnt worry about it too much |
| 14:09.31 | TS|Skrom | that's so I can load up +damage to the detrimant of +hit and stil have a decent chance to land spells on first cast vs. +2 mobs |
| 14:09.50 | TS|Skrom | I have 0 +hit and am 99% on most of the mobs I face atm |
| 14:09.50 | Gnancy_ | well it will help for that |
| 14:10.17 | TS|Skrom | except of course on immolate, SB, soul fire, etc |
| 14:10.36 | Gnancy_ | eh I really dont use immo/sf that much really |
| 14:10.40 | Gnancy_ | and |
| 14:10.53 | Gnancy_ | when I was leveling with normal mobs i really didnt SB |
| 14:11.13 | TS|Skrom | same, only time I use is generally in instances |
| 14:11.17 | TS|Skrom | or whever nightfall procs XD |
| 14:12.34 | clad|away | i need more people trying to break my bot, in #luabot if you're bored. |
| 14:12.49 | Gnancy_ | i know i cannot let NF go whenever it procs |
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| 14:13.03 | Gnancy_ | even if the mob is almost dead or i really need a shard |
| 14:13.58 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IyMbVRfzVzZfxczIbdc |
| 14:14.01 | TS|Skrom | I kinda like this one |
| 14:14.08 | N00bZXI | why? |
| 14:14.09 | TS|Skrom | "kinda" |
| 14:14.18 | N00bZXI | I would never use that other than leveling |
| 14:14.29 | N00bZXI | or maybe pve, haven't looked at it yet but I saw darkpact |
| 14:14.44 | TS|Skrom | dark pact is the <3 |
| 14:16.06 | Gnancy_ | here is my suggestion for leveling from 61 (just imo) http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IyMbVRfzVzZfxczIbdc |
| 14:16.26 | N00bZXI | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rVRrkqZfx0zIiz0xo I'd use something like this if I still played my lock |
| 14:16.31 | Gnancy_ | immo, corrupt, CoA, LT, LT, DL then dead |
| 14:16.33 | TS|Skrom | you forgot to click "link to this build" |
| 14:16.55 | N00bZXI | right |
| 14:16.56 | N00bZXI | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rVRrkqZfx0zIiz0xo |
| 14:17.03 | TS|Skrom | ewww yuck |
| 14:17.10 | N00bZXI | What's bad about it? |
| 14:17.13 | Gnancy_ | sorry |
| 14:17.15 | Gnancy_ | one sec |
| 14:17.23 | TS|Skrom | well personal preference really |
| 14:17.26 | TS|Skrom | I don't like soul link |
| 14:17.37 | N00bZXI | Used a very similar build before I quit my lock (patch 1.8 when SL was 50%) |
| 14:17.58 | TS|Skrom | and this is more a pvp spec you linked |
| 14:18.09 | TS|Skrom | exhaustion does not a pve talent make :D |
| 14:18.19 | Gnancy_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IV0oZcgczIiz0est here |
| 14:18.20 | N00bZXI | are we talking about pve? |
| 14:18.22 | Gnancy_ | what |
| 14:18.26 | N00bZXI | or pvp? |
| 14:18.26 | Gnancy_ | you are crazy |
| 14:18.32 | Gnancy_ | i said the same thing actually |
| 14:18.40 | Gnancy_ | but now i love CoEx |
| 14:18.55 | N00bZXI | I wish I had coex back in the day, could kite far more reliably |
| 14:19.13 | TS|Skrom | here let me replace my 300 damage a tick which would kill the mob that's running away anyway for something that'll make it still be in range to hit me! |
| 14:19.22 | TS|Skrom | nah, pass lol |
| 14:19.35 | TS|Skrom | I've used it a couple builds ago, and just never liked it |
| 14:19.39 | TS|Skrom | can't say I would now either |
| 14:19.44 | Gnancy_ | well i like mine for leveling i miss my FG too |
| 14:20.06 | TS|Skrom | I've not tried a felguard |
| 14:20.15 | TS|Skrom | I can't say it would mesh well with my play style though |
| 14:20.21 | TS|Skrom | I find I have a hard time keeping aggro on my pets |
| 14:20.36 | N00bZXI | This is what I played (other than suppression and soul siphon - instead had 5/5 imp drain life) http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IA0rVobZfxhu0iz0xo |
| 14:20.50 | N00bZXI | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IA0rVobZfxhu0iz0xo i mean |
| 14:21.06 | N00bZXI | if I linked incorrectly |
| 14:21.18 | TS|Skrom | same url so yeah looks like you were fine |
| 14:22.13 | TS|Skrom | I'm thinking that my concerns over the pet's mana bar being so anemic prolly aren't as threatening as I think and I need to put lifetap back into my mana macro |
| 14:22.23 | Gnancy_ | prolly |
| 14:22.48 | Gnancy_ | but dont underestimate the power of the felguard (read it in a vader voice) |
| 14:22.58 | TS|Skrom | hehe |
| 14:23.44 | Gnancy_ | I didnt pull aggro offa him at all. my main problem at 65 and higher was the dmg he was taking |
| 14:24.17 | TS|Skrom | how do you compensate for that? in my experience it's either heal the pet or do more damage |
| 14:24.22 | TS|Skrom | doing more damage tended to get me aggro |
| 14:24.27 | TS|Skrom | healing the pet hurt efficiency |
| 14:24.52 | Gnancy_ | imp health funnel and demonic res |
| 14:25.03 | N00bZXI | I can't speak for felguard because I've never used one |
| 14:25.05 | Gnancy_ | well i really didnt shadowbolt |
| 14:25.16 | Gnancy_ | so dot dot dot HF DL |
| 14:25.24 | Gnancy_ | was easy peasy really |
| 14:25.34 | TS|Skrom | hrm |
| 14:25.45 | TS|Skrom | I'll have to see how it goes hehe |
| 14:25.49 | Gnancy_ | you really need 2/3 or 3/3 in mana feed tho |
| 14:25.55 | Gnancy_ | i forgot thar |
| 14:25.56 | TS|Skrom | at 61 it's usually doing 2-3 mobs at once |
| 14:25.56 | Gnancy_ | that |
| 14:26.02 | TS|Skrom | jus dotting em all, draining, etc |
| 14:26.05 | Gnancy_ | yup FG + cleave |
| 14:26.15 | Gnancy_ | its all the same really |
| 14:26.20 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 14:26.29 | Gnancy_ | you play better playing what you like |
| 14:26.37 | Gnancy_ | most builds dont take that into account |
| 14:26.40 | TS|Skrom | true |
| 14:27.00 | TS|Skrom | one of these days when I have a gazillion gold I'll try all the different specs hehe |
| 14:27.17 | Gnancy_ | run dalies as soon as you get to 70 and you can |
| 14:27.30 | TS|Skrom | I've never much liked destro at all, demo I've got mixed feelings |
| 14:27.33 | Gnancy_ | i went flat broke at 70 messing around with specs |
| 14:27.41 | Gnancy_ | for serious |
| 14:28.13 | Gnancy_ | we have a dest lock in our raids |
| 14:28.18 | Gnancy_ | does well |
| 14:28.27 | N00bZXI | So did I |
| 14:28.34 | Gnancy_ | and fighting a NP lock is just .......... not fun |
| 14:28.36 | N00bZXI | I've played just about every spec that existed when I played |
| 14:28.36 | TS|Skrom | oh I'm sure it's a viable build I just don't the playstyle XD |
| 14:28.48 | Gnancy_ | but its a shadow mage |
| 14:28.54 | Gnancy_ | yuch |
| 14:29.00 | N00bZXI | I found with destro you'd prettymuch die in a few shots from most targets |
| 14:29.07 | N00bZXI | I don't like dieing in a few shots |
| 14:29.23 | Gnancy_ | yeah a roggie friend likes dest locks |
| 14:29.26 | Gnancy_ | to kill dead |
| 14:29.42 | TS|Skrom | I like the fact that my measly 300 + damage at level 61 suddenly grows to like 450 on my corruption spells |
| 14:29.44 | N00bZXI | SL when it was at 50% you prettymuch didn't die at all |
| 14:30.10 | Gnancy_ | yeah im spolied being SL for so long and being afflict now |
| 14:30.14 | Gnancy_ | i stink at pvp now |
| 14:35.59 | TS|Skrom | *snicker* http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/06/20/im-on-ur-broom/ |
| 14:36.39 | Gnancy_ | heh |
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| 14:38.41 | Gnancy_ | for you http://lolbots.com/?p=646 |
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| 15:10.36 | clad|away | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/06/27/oh-hai-i-fixted-ur-pilloh/ |
| 15:11.40 | Industrial | aww |
| 15:11.44 | Industrial | SQUEEZE |
| 15:13.01 | TS|Skrom | http://xkcd.com/c161.html |
| 15:13.04 | TS|Skrom | haha |
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| 15:23.53 | Industrial | TS|Skrom: latest, lol |
| 15:24.00 | Industrial | so true. evreyone does that |
| 15:24.01 | Industrial | =D |
| 15:24.25 | TS|Skrom | I loved the "it was just instinct" hehe |
| 15:26.24 | TS|Skrom | heh http://xkcd.com/c138.html |
| 15:26.38 | TS|Skrom | man I'm thankful to whoever pointed me to this comic on friday |
| 15:26.43 | TS|Skrom | it's making me lol so hard XD |
| 15:26.47 | Industrial | RSSit |
| 15:27.08 | Industrial | :) |
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| 15:38.06 | clad|away | AHAHAHAAHAHAHAH |
| 15:38.06 | clad|away | hahahah |
| 15:38.07 | clad|away | http://xkcd.com/c276.html |
| 15:38.08 | clad|away | sorry |
| 15:38.16 | TS|Skrom | hehe that's a good one |
| 15:38.42 | clad|away | rss for comics is the best thing ever |
| 15:38.48 | clad|away | and the fact that penny arcade desn't include the comic |
| 15:38.50 | clad|away | makes me cry |
| 15:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | nevcairiel, have a moment for Bartender3 obfuscation? |
| 15:41.40 | Gnancy_ | im sorry but puns > all http://www.xkcd.com/c282.html |
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| 15:46.09 | TS|Skrom | this is my favorite: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/90s_flowchart.png |
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| 15:46.39 | clad|away | hehe |
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| 15:50.23 | Gnancy_ | ts i posted that one in my guilds off topic forum .... i loved it |
| 15:51.09 | cog|work | My hunter has a RAPtor named Hammer... get it? |
| 15:51.17 | cog|work | ~rimshot |
| 15:51.18 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 15:51.20 | TS|Skrom | hahahah |
| 15:51.54 | TS|Skrom | I used to use a hammer of wrath macro with STOP! Hammer time! |
| 15:52.22 | cog|work | >< I have a random chance to say that when I send my pet to attack... |
| 15:52.30 | TS|Skrom | haha |
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| 15:57.19 | TS|Skrom | truth hurts - http://xkcd.com/c63.html |
| 15:58.43 | N00bZXI | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.45 | N00bZXI | *cries* |
| 16:00.46 | foxlit | Haha |
| 16:01.43 | Lopeppeppy | It's an apple! It's an orange! It's Pat! |
| 16:01.47 | foxlit | Early SSC? |
| 16:02.04 | N00bZXI | Our guild? |
| 16:02.09 | foxlit | No, her guild |
| 16:02.23 | foxlit | Seems decently decked out in kara-level stuff, but not much else |
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| 16:03.12 | Valaron|Work | I just upgraded my friend's computer from a GeForce FX5200 to a 7200GS |
| 16:03.35 | Valaron|Work | Marked by improvement. |
| 16:03.36 | Lopeppeppy | Zoom-zoom? |
| 16:03.49 | Valaron|Work | Went from 1Gb to 3Gb RAM |
| 16:03.53 | Valaron|Work | Also. |
| 16:04.00 | N00bZXI | 3gb is an overkill imo |
| 16:04.07 | Valaron|Work | Eh |
| 16:04.11 | Valaron|Work | It was cheap |
| 16:04.13 | N00bZXI | I'm using 2gb and never goes past 1.5 used anyway |
| 16:04.19 | Cide | 4gb for the win! |
| 16:04.32 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.43 | Cide | depends on what you're doing with your computer, N00bZXI :) |
| 16:04.52 | Lopeppeppy | Soon, I will buy ze new computer... If I can find one without Vista that is..... |
| 16:04.54 | N00bZXI | Ya, it does |
| 16:05.01 | cog|work | It makes a huge difference when you have 2 monitors and can do a bunch of things at once |
| 16:05.12 | N00bZXI | I don't multi-task very much |
| 16:05.25 | Cide | I do tons of multi-tasking (2 monitors ftw, /agree cog|work) |
| 16:05.26 | N00bZXI | On this computer anyway |
| 16:05.40 | Valaron|Work | I wish I had a fatter net pipe, ttbh. |
| 16:05.46 | Valaron|Work | Err.. |
| 16:05.48 | Valaron|Work | tbh |
| 16:06.03 | Valaron|Work | It makes for faster piracy. |
| 16:06.12 | N00bZXI | My processor is a bit behind everything else I have |
| 16:06.22 | TS|Skrom | actually lope you can query most mods |
| 16:06.25 | TS|Skrom | at least from what I've seen |
| 16:06.32 | TS|Skrom | FuBar_VersionChecker ftw :D |
| 16:06.52 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: cross-client though? |
| 16:07.07 | Valaron|Work | Vista is the sux. |
| 16:07.10 | N00bZXI | I wish you could query mods by category |
| 16:07.15 | cog|work | I like vista |
| 16:07.21 | N00bZXI | I like vista as well |
| 16:07.29 | TS|Skrom | I load up version checker, right click the icon, select group, type in DamageMeters and hit enter |
| 16:07.30 | N00bZXI | Or at least it's completely stable for me |
| 16:07.38 | N00bZXI | XP is not |
| 16:07.39 | TS|Skrom | hover over the icon and it shows who in my group has it loaded and what version |
| 16:07.55 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: DamageMeters is a synced mod |
| 16:07.58 | N00bZXI | Every time I have to install it I spend a few days |
| 16:08.09 | N00bZXI | Getting it to work with my HD |
| 16:08.20 | GofG | I am not a fan of vista |
| 16:08.22 | cog|work | Unless everyone has a copy of VersionChecker, there's no way to query an arbitrary mod on a remote machine |
| 16:08.23 | N00bZXI | Most of that time spent finding a floppy and getting a driver disk on it |
| 16:08.37 | cog|work | it "just worked" for me |
| 16:08.38 | N00bZXI | It won't work on a usb drive either |
| 16:08.51 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not ready to be the only Vista computer in the household... I think that would be a nightmare. And since I need stable access and understanding for working from home.... I may just go for new motherboard/ram/video instead. |
| 16:08.59 | TS|Skrom | oh yeah I guess that's true cog|work |
| 16:09.12 | GofG | I'm never going to downgrade to vista. |
| 16:09.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, big brother can't watch with VersionChecker! :) |
| 16:09.34 | N00bZXI | I like vista's UI as well |
| 16:09.46 | N00bZXI | Vista at it's release is better than xp at it's release in terms of stability |
| 16:09.48 | N00bZXI | at least for me |
| 16:09.52 | GofG | My girlfriend's brother got vista on his laptop, and now he uses my girlfriend's laptop all the time, so that's my first impression of Vista. |
| 16:09.56 | Lopeppeppy | I know it will happen to me one day, GofG, but I'm going to hold out as long as possible. It has promise, but it has price. |
| 16:09.57 | N00bZXI | (had problems with xp on old computer as well) |
| 16:10.02 | TS|Skrom | cog|work what about with aceaddons though? is there a table.addonname.versionnumber for any registered addon? |
| 16:10.14 | Cide | vista has run flawlessly for me; I find most of the complaints are based on rumors and generic MS hate :) |
| 16:10.30 | GofG | Cide: If we can't trust M$ hate, what CAN we trust? |
| 16:10.30 | TS|Skrom | if so it'd be simple to iterate through that table cross client and find the mod you were looking for |
| 16:10.33 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: doesn't matter... There's no way to communicate that fact between clients unless it's built into one of the addons |
| 16:10.33 | N00bZXI | The only real complaint I could see against vista |
| 16:10.39 | N00bZXI | Is the UI is redesigned |
| 16:10.40 | TS|Skrom | sure it would |
| 16:10.43 | Valaron|Work | Work's done for the day. :P They're going to be shutting down electrical power to my half of campus. |
| 16:10.43 | Cide | GofG: hmm... point ;) |
| 16:10.46 | N00bZXI | No more file toolbar |
| 16:10.54 | N00bZXI | I couldn't see anything else wrong with it |
| 16:10.55 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: only if everybody had the version checker |
| 16:10.56 | N00bZXI | at all |
| 16:10.56 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I get along with my computer just fine, Cide... I just don't want to relearn the wheel again. |
| 16:10.58 | Valaron|Work | Later today |
| 16:11.07 | Lopeppeppy | Have fun at home, Valaron! |
| 16:11.13 | GofG | N00bZXI: Can I point out that you have the word "noob" in your name and leave it at that? :D |
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| 16:11.31 | TS|Skrom | cog|work if the version checking is done in an ace lib then any mod that had that lib would have it |
| 16:11.39 | N00bZXI | GofG: haha |
| 16:12.03 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: exactly my point. The mods you want to check have to provide the functionality for checking |
| 16:12.05 | GofG | OH, wow. I thought I was in #macosx. I was like "Wait, who is this Kaelten, and why is he voiced? I don't recognize him. Woah. Who are these people?" |
| 16:12.20 | TS|Skrom | don't they now? |
| 16:12.24 | cog|work | and if they built it into a base Ace library, I would smack them upside the head with the privacy stick |
| 16:12.39 | TS|Skrom | hah |
| 16:13.28 | GofG | You know why I use mac? |
| 16:13.37 | GofG | There's pretty much dozens of reasons, but I like the main one |
| 16:13.38 | Cide | it's aced? /slap self |
| 16:13.54 | GofG | You never have to worry about viruses, ever. |
| 16:14.08 | cog|work | I never have to worry about viruses ever either |
| 16:14.08 | GofG | There are like, 2, out there, and one of them doesn't even do anything. The guy just wrote it to prove it could be done. |
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| 16:14.17 | Gryphen | i never worry about them either |
| 16:14.27 | cog|work | But then again, i don't do stupid things like pirating software, using kazaa, etc. |
| 16:14.36 | GofG | No, Gryphen, there's a difference between HAVING to worry and worrying. |
| 16:14.39 | Lopeppeppy | And my virus protection runs all the time, and I'm smart. |
| 16:14.48 | GofG | Lopeppeppy: That must eat up your clock power. |
| 16:14.51 | Cide | not getting viruses isn't really that difficult =/ |
| 16:15.00 | Wobin_ | Some days I think I should switch to mac |
| 16:15.06 | Wobin_ | Then I realise I have to get stuff done =) |
| 16:15.09 | Gryphen | hah |
| 16:15.29 | GofG | Wobin_: Don't do it. I need to be nonconformist, one of the reasons why I use a mac, and if more people keep switching over... I'll have tog go M$ |
| 16:15.39 | Wobin_ | Although, if I were doing graphic design etc, I'd probably switch |
| 16:15.51 | cog|work | "Hey, whatcha doing, PC?" "Just playing some games..." "Oh, really? Which one?" "Any" |
| 16:15.52 | Wobin_ | Meh, I use linux =) |
| 16:15.58 | Wobin_ | cog|work: I love that one |
| 16:16.03 | GofG | Oh, Linux. |
| 16:16.23 | Wobin_ | "Why do you use linux?" "Because I can." |
| 16:16.28 | GofG | I would use ubuntu, but I don't have enough space for another partition and I don't want to destroy my music library |
| 16:16.51 | GofG | Bye Thrae |
| 16:16.54 | GofG | Oh snap, I rhymed |
| 16:17.02 | GofG | I must be a white rapper, it's the only explanation |
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| 16:17.07 | GofG | Damn you!! |
| 16:17.25 | Wobin_ | You pronounce it "Thry"? |
| 16:17.27 | Thrae | #last us maelstrom thrae |
| 16:17.30 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae's last login date is listed as March 28, 2007 on the Armory. |
| 16:17.36 | Thrae | I need to fix my gaming machine =/ |
| 16:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | on a completely unrelated note: everyone who claims the gilette fusion power is shit is too stupid to shave. |
| 16:17.44 | Lopeppeppy | GofG... it eats what I let it eat. Not all computers are Tasmanian Devils. |
| 16:17.53 | GofG | Ahh... |
| 16:17.53 | Wobin_ | sag_ich_nicht: That one of the vibrating ones? |
| 16:17.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin_: yes |
| 16:18.20 | GofG | sag_ich_nicht: I wouldn't say it's a "completely" unrelated note. |
| 16:18.34 | Wobin_ | vibrating things are always on topic =) |
| 16:18.40 | GofG | No, not even that |
| 16:18.43 | sag_ich_nicht | well it's related in so far that i just shaved, but otherwise, no |
| 16:19.00 | GofG | You see, we were discussing Vista for a while, which "is shit", and then you said that gilette fusion power "isn't shit", so there's a correlation there. |
| 16:19.06 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 16:19.20 | N00bZXI | did someone mention macs? |
| 16:19.25 | GofG | No |
| 16:19.26 | Wobin_ | nope |
| 16:19.33 | GofG | Go back under your rock. |
| 16:19.41 | N00bZXI | Alright, I would've linked something if someone did. |
| 16:19.57 | GofG | Go ahead and link it. |
| 16:19.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i think the people who claim it's shit are the people that use to push the shaved so far onto there skin that it would cut the skin off if they'd use a normal razor(as in, real razor, not the safty ones) |
| 16:20.09 | sag_ich_nicht | -use +tend |
| 16:20.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and |
| 16:20.15 | sag_ich_nicht | -shaved +razor |
| 16:20.16 | GofG | I've never shaved with a "real" razor in my life |
| 16:20.16 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 16:20.18 | Gryphen | ye3s? |
| 16:20.20 | Wobin_ | oh man |
| 16:20.29 | GofG | And I never can now, because I'll destroy myself |
| 16:20.39 | Wobin_ | like... matter and antimatter? |
| 16:20.40 | sag_ich_nicht | i think the people who claim it's shit are the people that tend to push the razor so far onto their skin that it would cut the skin off if they'd use a normal razor(as in, real razor, not the safty ones) |
| 16:20.41 | GofG | Is anyone in here a piano uber? |
| 16:20.42 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
| 16:20.52 | Wobin_ | ta |
| 16:21.04 | GofG | Was that a positive or a negative? |
| 16:21.25 | GofG | Woah... I just noticed that little thing at the bottom of iTunes... I have 16 days of music. |
| 16:21.47 | Wobin_ | well, ta was a 'thank you' to sag for fixing the sentence =) |
| 16:21.55 | GofG | Oh |
| 16:22.00 | GofG | Unrelated positive |
| 16:22.00 | Wobin_ | And what's a piano uber? |
| 16:22.06 | Wobin_ | noncorrelative positive |
| 16:22.08 | GofG | Someone who can really play the piano really well |
| 16:22.22 | Wobin_ | I can do a mean 'Heart and Soul' |
| 16:22.24 | GofG | Like, above "professional" and in the area of "prodigy" but usually not as good as "prodigy" |
| 16:22.31 | GofG | Wobin_: You own. |
| 16:23.14 | Wobin_ | \o/ |
| 16:23.39 | N00bZXI | The one thing I don't understand that Apple's done is you can't transfer songs without iTunes |
| 16:24.05 | GofG | iTunes >>>>>>>>> All other music library programs. I have no problem with it. |
| 16:24.15 | N00bZXI | I prefer using no music library program in the first place |
| 16:24.18 | GofG | Show me a music library program that is better than iTunes, and I'll lhave a problem with it |
| 16:24.20 | GofG | Really? |
| 16:25.01 | Wobin_ | yeah, I don't like that about iTunes |
| 16:25.05 | N00bZXI | Well, any computer would detect the mp3 player I used to use as a flash drive |
| 16:25.07 | Wobin_ | despite how good the interface is |
| 16:25.08 | N00bZXI | I could just transfer things to it |
| 16:25.13 | N00bZXI | By moving files |
| 16:25.23 | Wobin_ | iTunes obfuscates the filenames |
| 16:25.45 | N00bZXI | Also I could create folders and organize things the way I wanted to |
| 16:26.23 | Wobin_ | Also the whole "You have 3 computers left you can register your iTunes shop bought songs on" |
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| 16:26.30 | N00bZXI | and that |
| 16:26.34 | Wobin_ | I damn well bought the song, I should be able to play it anywhere |
| 16:26.39 | GofG | It's do discourage piracy... |
| 16:26.51 | GofG | Well, what's keeping you from giving it to your friends, then, and then they don't buy it... |
| 16:26.55 | GofG | I'm sure you know the argument though |
| 16:26.58 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 16:27.01 | Lopeppeppy | I think it rather *encourages* piracy, through irritation. *shrug* |
| 16:27.09 | N00bZXI | I agree |
| 16:27.12 | Wobin_ | It's still disadvantaging me, the one who paid for it |
| 16:27.13 | krka | agreed |
| 16:27.19 | Wobin_ | not the ones who benefit from the piracy |
| 16:27.22 | GofG | Lopeppeppy: Explain |
| 16:27.43 | Wobin_ | I'm more likely to pirate a song so I don't have that limitation |
| 16:27.45 | GofG | Wobin_: You're buying it for a hell of a lot less than the price of a real CD. Obviously you don't get all the benefits :) |
| 16:27.57 | Wobin_ | GofG: That's beside the point |
| 16:27.59 | N00bZXI | Not really |
| 16:28.01 | Wobin_ | I bought it |
| 16:28.02 | N00bZXI | Depends on what you're buying |
| 16:28.10 | Wobin_ | I paid good money for it |
| 16:28.19 | GofG | N00bZXI: CDs are still going for 17 bucks in my area. |
| 16:28.21 | Wobin_ | the price doesn't have any influence on it |
| 16:28.44 | Wobin_ | Once I buy it, I should be able to do anything with it I want |
| 16:28.58 | Wobin_ | including playing it on more than 'x' number of computers |
| 16:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy finds a temper.... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114804829&postId=1147252972&sid=1#5 |
| 16:30.15 | Cide | I was just about to say, thanks Lopeppeppy |
| 16:30.19 | Lopeppeppy | GofG: Nope. Either figure it out yourself, or remain ignorant. Not my job to explain all of my opinions. *shrug* |
| 16:30.54 | GofG | Hehe well, I got it now anyway |
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| 16:31.48 | Wobin_ | ... I don't get it |
| 16:31.53 | Wobin_ | was it something edited out? |
| 16:31.56 | Punkie` | Lopeppeppy: I dislike people like that, especially ones that flame authors on how bad their addons are when they have *no clue* how to make anything similar themselves |
| 16:32.10 | Wobin_ | Cide, what was the '/sigh' about? |
| 16:32.15 | Lopeppeppy | Nitelily just hangs around to flame, so she brings out the total worst of my redhead temper. |
| 16:32.25 | TS|Skrom | redhead you say? |
| 16:32.32 | TS|Skrom | oh damn that's right you're already spoken for |
| 16:32.44 | Lopeppeppy | Bitchery for the sake of bitchery is just... *shakes head* |
| 16:32.47 | TS|Skrom | redhead's make me silly |
| 16:33.03 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, TS|Skrom. A redhead gamer chick... you shouldn't be surprised I got snapped up. :) |
| 16:33.13 | TS|Skrom | no kidding! |
| 16:34.21 | Cide | a couple of things that I won't bother to bring up (I'd likely get flamed), but mostly the fact that my mods are generally pictured as heavyweight simply because they don't use ace (don't start), when the OP in question obviously did something very wrong |
| 16:34.52 | Wobin_ | I figured Nitelly's first response (the quoted) was in answer to the second part of the OP's post |
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| 16:35.14 | Wobin_ | The second sentence, anyway |
| 16:35.14 | GofG | Does a carriage return count as a character |
| 16:35.24 | Wobin_ | depends on what os |
| 16:35.41 | Cide | >>> #("\r") |
| 16:35.41 | Cide | Cide: 1 |
| 16:35.54 | Cide | in lua, anyway |
| 16:36.24 | Wobin_ | hehe I still haven't figured out how they managed that anime bunny guildname |
| 16:38.54 | N00bZXI | Question: Now that I can't use ctprofiles, is there something else I could use for seeing what stats a certain set would give? |
| 16:39.19 | Valaron|Work | Your brain? |
| 16:39.21 | Wobin_ | can't use? |
| 16:39.46 | Cide | Wobin_: we had to shut the site down |
| 16:40.06 | Wobin_ | Cide: =( |
| 16:40.20 | N00bZXI | I like to figure out what gear I'm trying to get before I roll/say I need something. |
| 16:40.46 | TS|Skrom | well it's not perfect |
| 16:41.08 | TS|Skrom | but RatingsBuster modifies the tooltip to show how much +mana, crit, spell damage, etc you'll get by switching |
| 16:41.30 | TS|Skrom | as well as breaking out things like +agi to show what % crit it would be, and crit rating, dodge rating, etc |
| 16:41.46 | N00bZXI | That's not what I'm looking for sadly :( |
| 16:41.54 | TS|Skrom | that's on an item by item basis though, not for sets :-/ |
| 16:42.40 | N00bZXI | What would be nice is if something like that existed in-game.. |
| 16:43.09 | N00bZXI | or Armory |
| 16:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | I've been making wishlists on Kaliban's Loot Lists, or from checking other paladins on the Armory. I never got addicted to CT profiles, I like my pencils. |
| 16:44.28 | N00bZXI | I used it so I could see what set of gear would give me the stats I need - and just wait until it dropped - and pass on everything else |
| 16:44.57 | N00bZXI | So other people could use the loot I'd have gotten otherwise |
| 16:45.37 | Lopeppeppy | Combo of Rating Buster to show me if it's an upgrade, and in what way, and my pencil/paper lists of what I want to own someday. |
| 16:47.06 | N00bZXI | The problem is I'd have to calculate the final stats I'd have using pencil/paper, and I'd have to spend the time to recalculate everything any time I changed something.. |
| 16:49.21 | krka | hm, is a binary heap always balanced? |
| 16:50.46 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, the joys of IE6 vs. IE7 vs. Opera vs. Firefox in webpage view/print. |
| 16:53.46 | N00bZXI | Maybe there is actually |
| 16:53.47 | N00bZXI | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6528-WowEquip.html |
| 16:54.11 | TS|Skrom | keylogger! |
| 16:54.14 | TS|Skrom | just kidding ;-) |
| 16:55.00 | N00bZXI | Well I'd think that, except it's hosted on WoWI, and isn't the source checked? |
| 16:55.28 | Lopeppeppy | WoWI does check, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't check it myself again. :) |
| 16:55.59 | N00bZXI | Ya, I would as well, except I can't download the source |
| 16:56.03 | TS|Skrom | given that it's released as an executable no they prolly don't check "the source" |
| 16:56.27 | TS|Skrom | you're a geek right? run it on a computer that doesn't ahve wow installed |
| 16:56.32 | TS|Skrom | I'm sure you've got at least one ! |
| 16:56.59 | N00bZXI | I mean isn't the author also required to upload the source so it can be checked? |
| 16:57.02 | Cairenn | actually, any time someone uploads an executable, we always ask for source code to verify before we release it for download |
| 16:57.20 | Cairenn | as well as running it on a secure machine |
| 16:57.32 | TS|Skrom | see, Cairenn takes care of us |
| 16:57.34 | Josh_Borke | "secure" |
| 16:57.45 | N00bZXI | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=managing#faq_no_exe_files |
| 17:03.25 | krka | damn it, my binary heap is not balanced |
| 17:03.53 | TS|Skrom | I think they have some pills for that |
| 17:04.03 | krka | i wtb |
| 17:06.02 | pastamancer | sounds painful |
| 17:07.52 | mikma | awwwwww, spread the love <3 |
| 17:08.35 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 17:09.45 | Valaron|Work | Awww |
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| 17:40.03 | Valaron|Work | So.. Transformer comes out tomorrow. |
| 17:40.32 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Big party for it on the 4th among my group. |
| 17:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone know a good paladin tank they can offer me the name of? I'm researching some stats as my class lead, but I want to check my research with some Armory profiles... |
| 17:49.52 | clad|away | satrina, stormrage |
| 17:51.05 | Lopeppeppy | We're just tackling the middle of Karazhan, and my paladin tanks are telling me the required stats are too high... |
| 17:51.36 | N00bZXI | What boss? |
| 17:52.09 | Lopeppeppy | *Paladin* tanks, Cladhaire! :P |
| 17:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | Prince is where they're workin' right now. |
| 17:52.34 | N00bZXI | ah |
| 17:53.00 | clad|away | oh |
| 17:53.00 | clad|away | lol |
| 17:53.05 | zenzelezz | what problem are they having, surviving? |
| 17:53.07 | Lopeppeppy | *rolls eyes and laughs* |
| 17:53.13 | N00bZXI | I don't think our guild has one paladin tank |
| 17:53.26 | Lopeppeppy | Getting the gear to be taken seriously and living. I think he's almost there, but the HP is where he's falling back some. |
| 17:53.39 | N00bZXI | For prince you need high HP |
| 17:53.50 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 17:54.13 | Lopeppeppy | He'd be starting as the tank for the first bosses first, to give the healers a feel for how the healing is different, etc.... Just want to hit the minimums. |
| 17:54.14 | N00bZXI | Our current maintank before we xfer'd had 11k and he got oneshotted in phase2 |
| 17:54.19 | N00bZXI | I don't know about now since I rerolled |
| 17:54.37 | N00bZXI | oh you're talking about all kara not just for prince |
| 17:55.03 | Lopeppeppy | Our goal for beginning tanks in Kara is 12K. Can be harder to hit that as a paladin with all the other stats we have to balance. |
| 17:55.42 | N00bZXI | You need 13/14k for prince just to be safe |
| 17:56.57 | Lopeppeppy | He won't be tanking prince for a while, so I'm not too worried there. |
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| 18:27.21 | cog|work | haha... was writing CSS and typed "end" instead of "}" |
| 18:27.39 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 18:28.39 | clad|away | this is such bullshit =/ |
| 18:29.04 | Valaron|Work | ?? |
| 18:29.07 | clad|away | my laptop |
| 18:29.09 | clad|away | sent it out |
| 18:29.16 | clad|away | had it back like 36 hours later |
| 18:29.17 | Lopeppeppy | And it's not coming back alive? |
| 18:29.35 | clad|away | unfortunately, some fuckwad shut a screwdriver or something in the display and sent it back to me like that. |
| 18:29.47 | Valaron|Work | Ugh |
| 18:29.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, sweet jesus give me strength. |
| 18:29.51 | clad|away | then I had to wait another day to get another box, send it out to them, and now i'm waiting on parts. |
| 18:29.58 | clad|away | they don't have an ETA on when the parts will arrive |
| 18:30.11 | clad|away | and here i sit.. without my main development computer |
| 18:30.34 | Valaron|Work | A good reason to get 5 or 6 computers. |
| 18:30.39 | Valaron|Work | "just in case" |
| 18:31.06 | cog|work | I've had to borrow computers from work from time to time |
| 18:31.15 | Lopeppeppy | Because the idiots couldn't quality check for their favorite screwdriver BEFORE they returned it to you. |
| 18:31.55 | clad|away | i have multiple computers |
| 18:31.57 | clad|away | like 5 |
| 18:32.00 | clad|away | that doesn't solve the issue |
| 18:32.13 | clad|away | considering now i'm stuck if effing windows. |
| 18:32.59 | krka | ouch |
| 18:33.27 | clad|away | and i cna't install freebsd on my other laptop, cause ACPI doesn't work |
| 18:33.32 | clad|away | so i have no indication of battery life at all |
| 18:33.34 | clad|away | == bad for development |
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| 18:34.34 | Lopeppeppy | I wish I could send you cookies, Cladhaire, but they wouldn't arrive until after the laptop does. Less effective that way. |
| 18:34.50 | clad|away | lua> local s = "" for k,v in pairs(_G) do local c = math.random(#k) s = s .. k:sub(c,c + 3) end print(s) |
| 18:34.51 | cladbot | clad|away: gwowostrgetnatchsrmatenvomseairsaxertumbetrsp12dGreacnslruppasinstrilenorr2ginbsringcallhardatebitIONlerexptrtradtablbrsubjoinconcloormetatstrrxplog1airsftimmodalxpgetgxyintglopackemovatchrttoreaintndomsorttimemathmelrbytsypetrloctgatnforfinwgetrevnan2tin... (result truncated) |
| 18:35.03 | clad|away | Lopeppeppy: Appreciate the offer either way =) |
| 18:35.05 | clad|away | lua> local s = "" for k,v in pairs(_G) do local c = math.random(#k) s = s .. k:sub(c,c + 3) end print(s) |
| 18:35.05 | cladbot | clad|away: ogwnggetngmatstenvseedsmaxtonumtn12oadGachnsilperindstrlenorrr2ginstrinlstrcatetNmetaexptrimdeubtrsunncatflootmetttrreldex0irstimedualxpaloxyminsetgckovematcrtrawsreactndomrtmemathmecallbyteacostypereectgcinindwgetrevnan2ertbugs |
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| 18:35.26 | clad|away | dunno why that made me laugh but it did. |
| 18:36.06 | Lopeppeppy | *boggle* |
| 18:36.58 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:37.28 | Josh_Borke | there's nothing wrong with windows |
| 18:38.34 | Lopeppeppy | Meep. One does not advise that, unless you have paws to spare. |
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| 18:40.33 | clad|away | lua> newapi() |
| 18:40.33 | cladbot | clad|away: ldexptonumberassert, |
| 18:40.50 | clad|away | lua> for i=1,10 do print(newapi() .. "()") end |
| 18:40.50 | cladbot | clad|away: mimestrjoingetglobal(), strjoinfloormax(), selectnewproxyloadstring(), datedatepcall(), struppermaxsqrt(), getglobalforeachstrbyte(), wowpairs_G(), stringrandomstrmatch(), newproxylog10abs(), strsplitstrlenltn12() |
| 18:41.58 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 18:42.24 | clad|away | getglobalforeachstrbyte() is my favorite. |
| 18:42.27 | clad|away | lua> for i=1,10 do print(newapi() .. "()") end |
| 18:42.27 | cladbot | clad|away: frexpunpackpcall(), sortstrbyteloadstring(), asinltn12floor(), formatdebugstackforeachi(), maxltn12getmetatable(), randomtanfrexp(), tostringstrfindpairs(), asingsubsort(), newapitanloadstring(), strchartanstrfind() |
| 18:42.47 | MentalPower | wth... |
| 18:42.48 | cladbot | clad touches me where i pee. |
| 18:42.59 | Josh_Borke | i have no idea what's going on |
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| 18:43.20 | clad|away | i'm trying to console myself |
| 18:43.24 | clad|away | because my laptop is dying |
| 18:43.26 | clad|away | and i can't help it |
| 18:43.51 | Lopeppeppy | clad|away is testing the performance and integrity of cladbot! |
| 18:43.57 | clad|away | i was earlier actually |
| 18:44.06 | clad|away | i might go buy a mac mini tonight |
| 18:44.14 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.28 | clad|away | damn even mac mini is teh uber spensive. |
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| 18:46.37 | Josh_Borke | why are you buynig more things ;-P you're moving |
| 18:47.11 | ckknight | Cairenn: curse still sucks and all, but they have people that update my mods for me, because frankly, I can't be bothered. I have too many other things on my plate to worry about a single UI site. That's the main thing. |
| 18:47.32 | Lopeppeppy | But mac mini is like... jello. Always room for more! |
| 18:47.50 | Cairenn | okay |
| 18:48.09 | Josh_Borke | wow, they update your mods for you |
| 18:48.37 | Cairenn | I just wondered |
| 18:48.38 | PProvost_ | Hey, yet another reason we need some standards around mod updating! Not just update to user machines, but update up to the addon sites! |
| 18:48.48 | PProvost_ | (Not gonna happen...I know) |
| 18:49.50 | TS|Skrom | huh? |
| 18:50.10 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: sure do, it's pretty sweet |
| 18:50.21 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: not _too_ often, but still |
| 18:51.14 | foxlit | Curse generally has a more vocal community than wowi |
| 18:51.21 | foxlit | Even if it's composed largely of idiots. |
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| 19:20.29 | Lopeppeppy | Take care, everypeople. |
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| 20:02.16 | TC-Holding | is wowace down for anyone else? |
| 20:08.14 | Valaron|Work | Wowace isn't up. |
| 20:08.40 | Valaron|Work | Someone tripped over the power cord. :P |
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| 20:17.36 | Kaelten | :s |
| 20:17.40 | Kaelten | we're having.... isues. |
| 20:18.33 | Gnancy_ | issues of the "T" type? |
| 20:18.40 | Kaelten | T? |
| 20:18.49 | Gnancy_ | Tissues |
| 20:18.53 | Gnancy_ | sorry long day |
| 20:19.28 | Gnancy_ | tho i can say i get any funnier when its a short day |
| 20:19.28 | Gnancy_ | cant |
| 20:23.00 | Valaron|Work | Must always be long days. |
| 20:24.22 | Gnancy_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:44.55 | Grissom | afternoon all, the Ace site down or is it on my end? |
| 20:45.04 | Cairenn | it's down |
| 20:45.29 | Lopeppeppy | Sadness, taking a Canada Day break! |
| 20:45.38 | Grissom | craptacular, oh well probably why my Updater keeps hard-crashing |
| 20:46.17 | zenzelezz | hm, paladin with Thunderfury |
| 20:46.31 | zenzelezz | hope he's a tankadin |
| 20:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, the updater would be unhappy if the site's not happy. Give 'em some time, it'll be back. |
| 20:47.01 | Tem | C |
| 20:47.02 | Tem | C.. |
| 20:47.06 | Tem | Canada day? |
| 20:47.17 | Grissom | no worries, was just curious since I couldn't connect |
| 20:47.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I hear tell that non-americans get holidays too, roffle. :P |
| 20:47.38 | Grissom | Canada Day ftw...relaxing and having a beer myself |
| 20:47.52 | Lopeppeppy | 'zactly. |
| 20:48.22 | abug | wasn't that yesterday? |
| 20:48.39 | Cairenn | yeah, but today is the Stat Holiday |
| 20:48.48 | Grissom | yes'm |
| 20:48.48 | Cairenn | since it fell on the weekend |
| 20:48.54 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone gets a real workday for holiday! |
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| 20:53.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | raaaaaaaaargh |
| 20:54.01 | Lopeppeppy | *meeps and hides* |
| 20:54.07 | abug | hulk want ace website? |
| 20:54.47 | Lopeppeppy | Hulk take tranq shot rotation, feel bette.r |
| 20:55.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | RABIES WANT USE BOOTERANG WHILE BIRD |
| 20:55.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | RABIES SMASH |
| 20:57.48 | Lopeppeppy | Booterang is not a birdie-thing. Birds use feathers and sticks... lern2buyarrows? |
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| 21:29.05 | Valaron|Work | plz halp me wif a mount macro plz plz plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 21:32.20 | Lopeppeppy | ... /cast ReinsofDestiny ? |
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| 21:33.49 | Lopeppeppy | *mock sniffle of agony* |
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| 21:59.32 | cog|work | haha http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070701/ap_on_bi_ge/7_eleven_kwik_e_mart;_ylt=AhW2xk_50Ugddf6jQM7aTrzMWM0F |
| 22:01.20 | abug | do you ever work at work? |
| 22:01.42 | cog|work | A lot of my work involves sitting around waiting for things to finish :P |
| 22:01.53 | Josh_Borke | so that's a no |
| 22:02.57 | abug | type("Cogwheel") == "Wally"? |
| 22:03.14 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: are you event based or do you poll? :P |
| 22:03.48 | cog|work | Depends on how much sleep I got the night before :P |
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| 22:25.40 | Darklin | ~seen tuller |
| 22:25.43 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 1h 37m 17s ago, saying: 'its evil :P'. |
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| 22:26.23 | Valaron|Work | I wonder what was evil. |
| 22:26.31 | zenzelezz | Jun 30 21:47:37 <<< Tuller has quit ("rock on") |
| 22:26.51 | Lopeppeppy | Could have been just about anything.... pie, iPhone, vacations... |
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| 22:27.33 | [dRaCo] | bliz! |
| 22:27.41 | Lopeppeppy | Popcorn! |
| 22:27.55 | Darklin | Bleh, been trying to catch him so I can get his help hacking on Bongos. Ah well. |
| 22:28.25 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe he's actually on vacation... it's that time of year. |
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| 22:58.46 | Kaelten | wowace.com is back up if anyone is interested |
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| 23:01.37 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent. I wasn't dying to access it, but good to know anyway. |
| 23:01.46 | Seracht | Hi, is it possible to create a macro to choose a pot based on location? Or should I just use those pots first then use the normal super pots |
| 23:01.50 | Thunder_Child | ty Kaelten |
| 23:02.27 | foxlit | Seracht: you can probably get an addon to do that |
| 23:02.37 | Lopeppeppy | I use AutoBar for all of my consumables, it has somewhat of that intelligence. |
| 23:02.42 | foxlit | Since you should be able to change what binds where when you enter a zone |
| 23:02.50 | Lopeppeppy | A macro... likely not. |
| 23:03.06 | Seracht | Thanks |
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| 23:07.27 | Seracht | also |
| 23:07.39 | Seracht | is there a mod to consolidate all the minimap icons into 1 icon |
| 23:08.02 | Thrae | Seracht: Yes, on wowinterface.com. "Minimap Bag" or something. |
| 23:09.24 | Seracht | Thanks |
| 23:09.34 | Josh_Borke | bye ya'll |
| 23:09.44 | Seracht | also is there an equivalent ace version of KLM :) |
| 23:10.05 | Lopeppeppy | Seracht: Yes, Omen. |
| 23:10.38 | MoonWolf | that the short version |
| 23:10.52 | MoonWolf | long version is, yes threat 1.0, it has many frontends, omen is one |
| 23:10.55 | MoonWolf | violation can do it too. |
| 23:11.11 | Lopeppeppy | Not my job to educate in IRC. *shrug* He can read the details on wowace himself. But I'll remember that Violation has the functionality as well. Didn't know that one. |
| 23:11.45 | abug | purl, seen iriel |
| 23:11.48 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 8d 13h 47m 50s ago, saying: 'Bear in mind if they happened to get disconnected then you'd have deleted all of their settings'. |
| 23:12.52 | Seracht | perfect |
| 23:12.53 | zenzelezz | untrue, he was here the 28th |
| 23:13.17 | abug | purl, seen iriel|afk |
| 23:13.18 | purl | iriel|afk <n=daniel@adsl-66-123-190-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 566d 23h 29m 54s ago, saying: 'I've been deliberately trying to keep page names logical so that you CAN generate links.'. |
| 23:13.19 | Lopeppeppy | Might have been as ~iriel or something... does purl know about alts? |
| 23:13.32 | Seracht | also also will they end up linking with KLM? |
| 23:13.43 | Seracht | because I dont want guildmates to go OMG NO KLH /KICK |
| 23:13.50 | zenzelezz | I just cat | grep | tail |
| 23:13.51 | Lopeppeppy | That functionality has been being worked on, Seracht, I have no idea how well it does or doesn't work yet. |
| 23:13.53 | cog|work | KTM or KLH not KLM :P |
| 23:14.04 | zenzelezz | what, maybe he wants an Ace airline |
| 23:14.38 | Seracht | sorry lol |
| 23:14.43 | Seracht | I think I used 1 of each :) |
| 23:22.54 | Corrodias | KLHTM |
| 23:22.58 | Corrodias | beat you all! |
| 23:23.07 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes. |
| 23:23.18 | Lopeppeppy | Is that the new hockey league? |
| 23:23.22 | Corrodias | and it does share data with KTM |
| 23:23.36 | Corrodias | re: Threat |
| 23:23.50 | Antiarc|Work | Omen and Threat aren't done though |
| 23:23.54 | Lopeppeppy | Both ways? Or just one way? |
| 23:23.56 | Antiarc|Work | So be aware they're beta and still have bugs |
| 23:23.56 | Corrodias | both |
| 23:23.58 | Antiarc|Work | Both ways |
| 23:24.01 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
| 23:24.07 | Antiarc|Work | Though cross-client misdirection isn't supported (yet) |
| 23:24.15 | Corrodias | they're slick enough that i really want to use them :) |
| 23:24.26 | Corrodias | if i see any bugs, i'll be sure to complain loudly at anyone but the author |
| 23:24.27 | Antiarc|Work | And KTM clear commands aren't respected by design, since KTM has to clear more often than Threat does to achieve relevant numbers. |
| 23:24.34 | Lopeppeppy | Ah... that's really the heart of what Seracht was asking, I think.... "misdirection". |
| 23:25.26 | Corrodias | hmm? |
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| 23:25.32 | Corrodias | the hunter ability? |
| 23:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | No... the way that Antiarc was describing it... "cross-client misdirection". As in... "Will my raid know I'm using Omen instead of KRCTLH?". The answer is currently yes. |
| 23:28.33 | Corrodias | oh. that wouldn't matter in my guild, but i can see how some people would refuse to understand |
| 23:29.27 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not required to use 'em, so it doesn't matter to me. But guilds can be stubborn... if you're supposed to have CKBTLH, nothing else will do. |
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| 23:31.56 | Lopeppeppy | Night, everypeople. Must do laundry before work tomorrow. |
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| 23:38.38 | abug | is giving _G a metatable a bad idea? |
| 23:39.08 | Corrodias | i'm a little shaky on metatables |
| 23:39.28 | Corrodias | but anything that your addon does that makes it so other addons couldn't do the same thing is probably a bad idea... |
| 23:39.38 | Corrodias | just my uninformed speculation |
| 23:40.05 | abug | yeah they'd have to look first to see if one was already there and hook the function in that one |
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| 23:40.16 | Corrodias | i could forsee tainting issues |
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| 23:40.35 | abug | ah yeah, never thought about that... |
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| 23:54.59 | Thunder_Child | Kaelten, has wowace been throttled for some reason? |
| 23:55.20 | Kaelten | not to my knowledge why? |
| 23:55.29 | Thunder_Child | i am DL'ing at 2KB/s |
| 23:55.38 | Thunder_Child | usualy i get around 300 |
| 23:55.53 | Kaelten | looking |
| 23:55.56 | Cairenn | it's been down a large portion of the day |
| 23:56.00 | Kaelten | holy shit |
| 23:56.08 | Kaelten | average (5s sliding average) |
| 23:56.08 | Kaelten | Requests103 req/s |
| 23:56.08 | Kaelten | Traffic18.99 Mbyte/s |
| 23:56.14 | Kaelten | I didn't think that was possibile |
| 23:56.18 | Kaelten | on my pipe |
| 23:56.47 | Corrodias | it's anti-ace terrorists! |
| 23:57.32 | Thrae | Cairenn: Hehe at ckknight's comments ;) |
| 23:57.46 | Cairenn | hmm? |
| 23:58.05 | Thrae | Cairenn: That he "gave up releasing on wowinterface". |
| 23:58.15 | Cairenn | his choice |
| 23:58.58 | dylanm | Thrae: When did that start? |
| 23:59.09 | Thrae | dylanm: Dunno. |
