| 00:00.20 | Thrae | Cairenn: Yeah, but at least on wowinterface he usually kept the addons in a stable release format, unlike on the SVN ;) |
| 00:01.14 | Cairenn | unfortunately, not much I can do about it - I can't force someone to use the site |
| 00:01.29 | Thrae | I just find it funny, that's all. |
| 00:01.33 | clad|away | it is |
| 00:01.35 | zenzelezz | no female persuasion? |
| 00:01.47 | Kaelten | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 00:01.47 | purl | shoots zenzelezz in his sleep |
| 00:01.58 | Thrae | Right now I'm busy hating tooltips |
| 00:02.05 | zenzelezz | Kaelten: read whatever you want into it |
| 00:02.19 | Kaelten | :P |
| 00:02.30 | Kaelten | Thrae ohh, I hate tooltips too whats your reason |
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| 00:03.22 | Thrae | Kaelten: ClearLines() resets the tooltip state set by the game engine, so I'm trying to figure out a way to clear the lines without using ClearLines() (IE, the healthbar will disappear for unit tooltips, for example) |
| 00:03.24 | Corrodias | what's unpleasant about releasing to wowi? |
| 00:04.08 | Kaelten | nothing |
| 00:04.15 | Kaelten | its one of the better one. |
| 00:04.17 | Kaelten | ons |
| 00:04.19 | Kaelten | ones |
| 00:04.22 | clad|away | Corrodias: Apparently someone at Curse "Releases" ckknight's addons for him |
| 00:04.25 | clad|away | *shrug* |
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| 00:06.53 | Cairenn | to each their own, choice is a good thing - not like any of you are obligated to release any of your work anywhere at all, if you don't wish to |
| 00:06.58 | clad|away | aye |
| 00:07.39 | chuckg | Admit it. WoWInterface can't handle the type of bandwidth his addon's create. |
| 00:07.46 | chuckg | So you removed it yourself. |
| 00:08.03 | Cairenn | ummm, no |
| 00:08.16 | chuckg | Thanks for confirming my suspicions. |
| 00:08.17 | zenzelezz | I saw no mention of them being removed? |
| 00:08.30 | kergoth | i think ck just doesn't like the "hassle" of releasing anything at all. but there are lots of good reasons to have a proper versioning scheme and release process.. |
| 00:08.31 | Cairenn | there haven't been, to my knowledge |
| 00:09.31 | clad|away | kergoth: Understood, thats fine and its his choice. *shrug* |
| 00:09.33 | Cairenn | [any files removed] |
| 00:09.58 | kergoth | i dont think i'd agree that its "fine", but its definately his choice ;) |
| 00:10.07 | clad|away | heh |
| 00:10.09 | Cide- | hm, does anyone of if the <GM> tag is part of the player name? like when receiving a whisper |
| 00:10.21 | Kaelten | Cide-: don't think so |
| 00:10.21 | clad|away | afaik, yes. |
| 00:10.31 | clad|away | it shows up in chat, and comes from the same event |
| 00:10.33 | Kaelten | oh wait GameMaster |
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| 00:10.39 | Kaelten | I was thinking guildmaster |
| 00:10.43 | Kaelten | damn migrain |
| 00:10.46 | Cide- | yeah gamemaster :) |
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| 00:11.31 | Corrodias | does anyone of if -- i totally don't know what to make of that |
| 00:11.43 | AnduinLothar | i think it's the same modifier as the <AFK> neh? |
| 00:11.56 | AnduinLothar | passed from the chat event |
| 00:12.22 | Corrodias | could be |
| 00:12.57 | Corrodias | set up capture events and then write a ticket to have one of them whisper you a couple of times |
| 00:13.28 | Corrodias | *chat event capturing code |
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| 00:28.59 | Corrodias | i have to fly from winterspring to tanaris. argh! |
| 00:29.12 | zenzelezz | only about a 12-minute flight |
| 00:29.57 | Corrodias | at what level do warlocks get their summoning ability? |
| 00:30.12 | dylanm | Corrodias: 20, I think? |
| 00:30.13 | Wobwork | 20? |
| 00:30.30 | Corrodias | yes! |
| 00:30.38 | dylanm | Yeah, 20. |
| 00:30.48 | dylanm | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ritual_of_Summoning |
| 00:38.37 | Kirkburn|afk | In the spirit of my new job working for Wikia - Anyone interested in Warhammer, Wikia is looking for people to help with the Warhammer Online wiki - http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page |
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| 00:45.46 | abug | pff sell out |
| 00:46.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | totally |
| 00:46.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | But at the same time, check it out :) |
| 00:46.52 | abug | is there a wikia for registry entries of different programs? |
| 00:47.36 | abug | I think that'd be a cool one, but I'm too lazy to suggest it |
| 00:49.40 | batrick | what's the UI like for warhammer? |
| 00:49.46 | batrick | as in, can we mess with it? |
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| 01:20.48 | Industrial | how do I set the screenshot jpg quality again? |
| 01:21.10 | Thrae | JPEG Screenshots are only for Macs I thought? |
| 01:21.15 | Industrial | no? |
| 01:21.28 | Industrial | Kirkburn|sleep: I would if I was in the beta :P |
| 01:21.30 | batrick | it's some cvar |
| 01:21.40 | Industrial | batrick: thanks. |
| 01:21.40 | batrick | you'll probably find it in the 2.1 changes thread |
| 01:21.43 | Industrial | batrick: >_> |
| 01:21.48 | batrick | :D |
| 01:25.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no way to target based on raid icon in a macro, is there? |
| 01:26.31 | Darklin | Mr_Rabies2: Negative. |
| 01:26.47 | Darklin | Blizzard would consider that 'logic based targeting" |
| 01:28.09 | Cide- | not really, Darklin |
| 01:28.29 | Cide- | the issue, however, is that they want to make the raid icon functionality available to addons |
| 01:28.38 | Cide- | and be dynamically used in combat |
| 01:28.53 | Cide- | which would be impossible if you could target with it |
| 01:29.17 | Cide- | and slouken also stated that the designers like the fact that you hvae to look for the icons with your eyes, which makes you more engaged in what's happening in the battle |
| 01:30.45 | Darklin | Arrgh, m going to hurt Tuller when I see him again! |
| 01:31.41 | Industrial | In this screenshot youll see the unitframe (to be) in the middle. It doesnt show the bars and I dont know why. pic: http://i9.tinypic.com/631ucrd.jpg code: http://pastey.net/70259 |
| 01:32.03 | Darklin | Every time he releases a new version of Bongos, he rewrites the whole dang thing. Then I have to sit here and read forever and a day just to figure out where the ever so tiny error that is farking up bongos for me is... |
| 01:32.41 | Industrial | I must have forgotten something, but what :| |
| 01:33.14 | Corrodias | any hints for how i can figure out what addon has made my gametooltip look the way it looks at a given moment? |
| 01:34.24 | abug | a GM once told a person that scrolling combat text caused his raid ID to change, so I blame that |
| 01:34.37 | Corrodias | lol |
| 01:35.18 | Cide- | I'm going to start naming all my functions arbitrarily |
| 01:35.31 | Industrial | ? |
| 01:35.33 | abug | like thottbot? |
| 01:35.52 | Cide- | kinda |
| 01:36.03 | Cide- | all my function names will be a number of spaces |
| 01:36.11 | Darklin | lol |
| 01:36.23 | Darklin | Not much for code sharing eh? |
| 01:36.34 | abug | thank goodness for getglobal? |
| 01:37.08 | Cide- | CT_RaidAssist2[" "] = function(self) self[" "](self[" "] + self[" "], self[" "]) end |
| 01:37.17 | abug | oh that's fun |
| 01:37.24 | Corrodias | awesome |
| 01:38.05 | Darklin | It's a good way to confuse the heck out of people trying to take your code. |
| 01:38.16 | Darklin | Or even follow it for that matter. |
| 01:39.41 | Industrial | or just use letters like Rowne(tm) |
| 01:39.52 | Darklin | local state = "[stance:2/3,stealth]7;" < I keep staring at that line thinking, "That's got to be where the problem is." |
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| 01:40.28 | Industrial | a=b[c][z](g,f)((t[p]>3 or 5)) |
| 01:40.42 | abug | is that a line from thottbot? |
| 01:40.53 | abug | oh wait, he does it all one on line |
| 01:41.01 | abug | all on even |
| 01:41.11 | Industrial | Rowned use to code with varn names like that |
| 01:41.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:41.16 | Industrial | Rowne* |
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| 01:57.52 | Corrodias | damn! Omen uses layout-cache to store its frame location |
| 01:57.56 | Corrodias | oh how i hate that! >_< |
| 01:59.25 | Corrodias | and it seems to default to a character-specific settings profile instead of Default like most... |
| 02:02.46 | zenzelezz | what's wrong with layout-cache? |
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| 02:03.31 | Wobwork | It... has a dash in it? |
| 02:03.33 | Corrodias | well, if i want it to copy any movement in a frame to all my characters, i have to copy the file to each of my characers' folders |
| 02:03.50 | Corrodias | also, if i ever load without the addon, its frame info is wiped from the file so i have to restore it from another character |
| 02:04.14 | Corrodias | it get to be a real pain |
| 02:05.00 | zenzelezz | I don't even know when layout-cache is or isn't used at the moment |
| 02:05.28 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware, it's used when an addon doesn't take it upon itself to store the locations of its frames. more than that i don't know. |
| 02:05.53 | zenzelezz | so it's always used, just overriden by the addons? |
| 02:06.15 | Thrae | It's used by the Frame Widget, for SavePosition |
| 02:06.18 | Corrodias | Frame:SetUserPlaced(isUserPlaced) - Set whether the frame has been relocated by the user (and will thus be saved in the layout cache). |
| 02:06.21 | Thrae | #api SavePosition |
| 02:06.22 | ThraeBot | Could not find anything relevant, Thrae |
| 02:06.26 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 02:06.43 | Corrodias | otherwise, i imagine it positions itself on load using anchors and offsets |
| 02:07.02 | Corrodias | otherwise being if the addon author writes it to |
| 02:11.23 | Corrodias | i'd personally prefer if the position were handled by Omen and stored in the profile |
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| 02:31.40 | Antiarc | Omen should save its position in the DB |
| 02:31.44 | Antiarc | But yes, the default profile is "char" |
| 02:32.04 | Antiarc | (I, personally, hate moving an addon window on one char and then it shows up moved on another char) |
| 02:32.35 | zenzelezz | I agree |
| 02:32.39 | zenzelezz | personal opinion thing |
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| 02:34.10 | Darklin | Anyone decent/good with 2.1 state headers? Trying to figure out why when I go to/from prowl (as a druid in cat form) the bars don't shift |
| 02:34.14 | Darklin | Like they should/used to. |
| 02:34.24 | Darklin | BTW I'm working with Bongos, which makes this all the more fun. |
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| 02:42.32 | Cide- | check if the stance switches |
| 02:42.39 | Cide- | sounds like a misconfigured state driver if it doesn't |
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| 03:06.59 | Corrodias | okay, if the position gets saved in the profile, i'm cool with just having to hit "use profile: default" once on each character |
| 03:07.01 | Darklin | Ok, I r really dum. Nevermind. |
| 03:07.11 | Darklin | My apologies to Tuller. |
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| 03:07.24 | Corrodias | maybe i should learn how to make it do that... |
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| 04:06.13 | Corrodias | how does Omen determine which player has "100%" threat? |
| 04:07.10 | Cide | the tank runs it I'd guess |
| 04:07.36 | Corrodias | let me rephrase |
| 04:07.39 | Corrodias | how does it know who the tank is? |
| 04:08.06 | Corrodias | soloing on my hunter, it generally seems to decide it's whoever gets threat first, but sometimes it switches |
| 04:08.17 | Cide | the tank him/herself knows it... |
| 04:08.29 | Cide | and communicates that to the other clients |
| 04:08.35 | Cide | would be my guess, anyway |
| 04:08.43 | Corrodias | there's nothing in omen to set yourself as the MT |
| 04:08.55 | Cide | you're tracking threat on mob X |
| 04:09.09 | Cide | omen sees, hey, targettarget is me! |
| 04:09.20 | Cide | sends "I'm tanking" |
| 04:09.41 | Corrodias | well, see, it doesn't always change the tank just because the mob's target changed |
| 04:12.47 | Cide | well, it obviously needs to take threat into account |
| 04:13.05 | Corrodias | it does seem to use targettarget, but i wonder when it updates |
| 04:14.19 | Corrodias | yeah, changing your own target makes it re-evaluate who's got aggro |
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| 05:18.38 | Cairenn | night all |
| 05:29.32 | Corrodias | well, got my hunter to 58. not sure i want him in outland yet, though. |
| 05:30.03 | Corrodias | still... struggling with boars may be more fun than anything the plaguelands can bring |
| 05:32.04 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 05:32.12 | Wobwork | and at least the views are worth it |
| 05:32.29 | Wobwork | You can spend your time staring at the ground while a boar eats your spine |
| 05:32.57 | Corrodias | not sure just how to proceed |
| 05:33.04 | Corrodias | should i try the quests, or grind on boars? |
| 05:33.29 | Corrodias | i'd have to kill around 300 of them to get to level 59, so i think that's out |
| 05:33.59 | Wobwork | actually, changing your target (in regards to Omen) brings up a new threat table |
| 05:34.35 | Corrodias | i'm tempted to tough it out in the plaguelands for another 2 levels... |
| 05:34.40 | Wobwork | the quests aren't too difficult |
| 05:34.49 | Wobwork | but you might be better off donig a cauldron run or something |
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| 05:35.36 | Wobwork | <3 hunter |
| 05:35.43 | Corrodias | arr |
| 05:35.47 | Wobwork | BRK has revitalised my will to play a hunter =) |
| 05:36.00 | Corrodias | probably should spend a little more time in the plaguelands, as unpleasant as they are |
| 05:36.07 | Wobwork | I hate them =\ |
| 05:36.10 | Wobwork | it's too murky |
| 05:36.49 | Corrodias | yeah! |
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| 05:42.15 | Mike-N-Go_ | Greetings, freinds. |
| 05:42.48 | Corrodias | heyo |
| 05:43.25 | Corrodias | well, i'm very tired, and i have work tomorrow. my hunter is at 58. questing is going to be a real chore for a few levels. so it's time for bed. 'ni! |
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| 07:04.32 | tedrock | if i press the bind key for this "/cast [modifier:alt] lesser healing wave" it will bring up a gray cast hand and i can't click on anyone. anyone have any ideas why? |
| 07:04.51 | tedrock | nm i know why |
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| 07:14.16 | Wobwork | No target? |
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| 07:18.56 | abug | lawl |
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| 07:50.08 | tedrock | actuall yi had ALT 3 bound to a spell i forgot about |
| 07:50.15 | tedrock | i got a new question |
| 07:51.08 | tedrock | say Joe was my focus and joe was fighting a wolf. is there a way to make a macro that would say /cast lightning bolt on my focus's target without changing my target |
| 07:51.48 | Zicon | /cast [target=focus] lightning bolt, going from memory. |
| 07:52.08 | tedrock | ok but target=focus would cast on my focus |
| 07:52.16 | tedrock | i want to cast on my focus's target |
| 07:52.17 | Zicon | Oh, right. |
| 07:52.26 | Zicon | /cast [target=focustarget] lightning bolt |
| 07:52.27 | tedrock | so is it targettarget=focus |
| 07:52.31 | tedrock | ok that works? |
| 07:52.31 | tedrock | good |
| 07:52.36 | Zicon | Think so, yes. |
| 07:53.35 | tedrock | i shall test |
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| 08:17.08 | zenzelezz | this amuses me |
| 08:17.30 | zenzelezz | Nexus Crystals from 5g to 20g BO on AH... wonder if anyone is dumb enough to buy the high-price ones |
| 08:19.37 | zenzelezz | I should add that the 5g ones are in vast numbers |
| 08:20.00 | nevcairiel | its the same on all servers |
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| 08:45.21 | nickk | hi |
| 08:45.28 | zenzelezz | hello |
| 08:46.53 | nickk | this is the wow thing right? |
| 08:47.42 | nickk | what is the teir thing on armor sets? |
| 08:49.01 | zenzelezz | tier thing? |
| 08:49.14 | nickk | yea like tier 1 tier 2 |
| 08:49.27 | nickk | they describe armor sets |
| 08:50.01 | zenzelezz | if you think of the raid instances where you get the armor as tiers, the easiest is tier 0, and it gets harder and harder up the tiers |
| 08:50.37 | nickk | oh |
| 08:50.46 | nickk | k |
| 08:50.49 | nickk | ty |
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| 11:14.32 | Wobin_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=113192474&sid=1 |
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| 11:41.03 | Josh_Borke | morning |
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| 12:23.02 | Beladona | morning |
| 12:23.22 | Josh_Borke | guten morgen bela |
| 12:23.45 | Xuerian | Wakey wakey eggs and bake? |
| 12:23.48 | Xuerian | y. >_> |
| 12:27.08 | Beladona | lol |
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| 13:10.03 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.46 | Wobin_ | way to go |
| 13:12.00 | Wobin_ | lets use a real word for security =P |
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| 13:13.02 | Wobin_ | They should have gone for the old standby "1 2 3 4" |
| 13:13.32 | Josh_Borke | i declare thumb war? |
| 13:14.29 | Wobin_ | s/4/4 5/ |
| 13:14.39 | foxlit | if (HaveRootPriveleges()) { panic(); } |
| 13:15.13 | foxlit | security? What security! |
| 13:16.48 | foxlit | Love the error message on wow forums |
| 13:16.48 | foxlit | "Server is busy, please try again" |
| 13:17.09 | foxlit | Refresh more while I choke on the number of connections, plx. |
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| 13:17.36 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Sure..... I think someone set an [Error Ferret] loose amongst the [Server Hamsters]. Just like every Tuesday, only more special fun. |
| 13:18.15 | Wobin_ | oh no [Randy Error Ferret] |
| 13:19.01 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. |
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| 13:39.41 | TS|Skrom | http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/03/video-what-do-stormtroopers-do-when-theyre-on-leave/ |
| 13:41.25 | TheZanke | anything special happening with the servers today by chance? |
| 13:41.36 | TheZanke | kinda went on a patching spree just wanna make sure... |
| 13:41.37 | Lopeppeppy | Tuesday maintenance? |
| 13:43.57 | Cairenn|afk | just a reminder, today is the last day to sign up on our site for a shot at a ticket to BlizzCon - draw takes place at 9 pm pacific, midnight eastern |
| 13:44.10 | clad|away | zomg lowercase |
| 13:44.17 | Lopeppeppy | No wai. |
| 13:44.21 | Cairenn | I know, terrible hey? |
| 13:44.56 | krka | hm, can you get player facing? |
| 13:45.02 | krka | i recall there being a way |
| 13:46.22 | clad|away | i think if nothign else you can get it from the facing of the minimap player arrow |
| 13:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | As in.. .to know if your target is facing away from you, for backstabbing sorts of purposes? |
| 13:46.33 | krka | how do i get that? |
| 13:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | I remember there *not* being a way to check that. |
| 13:46.41 | krka | Lopeppeppy: no, what clad said |
| 13:46.53 | Cairenn | blizz forums acting up? |
| 13:47.13 | Lopeppeppy | It's maintenance day, Cairenn... forums will be hateful until servers all come back up. :| |
| 13:47.20 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 13:47.30 | Cairenn | was just hoping they might be behaving |
| 13:47.44 | Lopeppeppy | You're such a morning-optimist! :) |
| 13:48.21 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:48.33 | Cairenn | I just wanted to bump my post about the ticket raffle |
| 13:48.46 | Cairenn | is anyone else logged in? |
| 13:48.46 | Lopeppeppy | Ah... |
| 13:48.59 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. I'm at physical work today, no site hopping for me. |
| 13:49.18 | Cairenn | ah well, I'll just keep trying off and on |
| 13:54.33 | Maldivia | doesn't the forum usually act up during maintenance, or they did fix that with the new forums... can't really remember, been a while since I've had US forum access, and not really active on the EU boards |
| 13:55.18 | dylanm | Maldivia: Nah. Forum performance is usually bad on Tuesdays. And the search hardly ever works these days. |
| 13:55.41 | Cairenn | it had seemed to have been fixed for a while there, at least you could log in, but it seems to be bad again now |
| 13:55.54 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's more forum-traffic now, as opposed to the forums being tied to the login servers. |
| 13:56.00 | Cairenn | yeah |
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| 14:08.55 | TS|Skrom | Lopeppeppy |
| 14:09.04 | TS|Skrom | What addon did you suggest for "rule posting macro" |
| 14:09.28 | TS|Skrom | (it's not loading for me) |
| 14:10.14 | TS|Skrom | OH HAHA |
| 14:10.17 | TS|Skrom | it's mine XD <3 |
| 14:10.27 | TS|Skrom | thanks for the plug |
| 14:13.59 | Lopeppeppy | I suggested yours, TS|Skrom! The thespian one. |
| 14:14.04 | krka | hm, why isnt my model showing? O_o |
| 14:14.16 | TS|Skrom | I saw when I compared yoru link to my url on curse XD |
| 14:14.16 | Lopeppeppy | Whoops, missed that you'd found it. Peppy must learn to scroll. |
| 14:14.19 | TS|Skrom | thanks :) |
| 14:14.28 | Lopeppeppy | What model is missing, krka? |
| 14:14.48 | Josh_Borke | krka: you hid it |
| 14:15.16 | krka | possibly |
| 14:15.27 | krka | i am trying to make my own model that looks like an arrow |
| 14:15.44 | Lopeppeppy | Fun times. |
| 14:16.35 | krka | err, using the existing minimap arrow of course |
| 14:18.59 | Josh_Borke | astrolabe/tomtom does that, don't they? |
| 14:19.15 | krka | yeah, and i copied it |
| 14:19.18 | krka | but it doesn't work |
| 14:20.26 | krka | wait.. now i have something! |
| 14:25.22 | krka | yay, got it to work |
| 14:25.33 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent. What does it do for you? |
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| 14:29.13 | krka | the arrow points in the direction i need to walk to get to where i am going |
| 14:30.24 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
| 14:37.43 | nevcairiel | does it work when your camera doesnt face the same direction as your char? |
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| 14:50.55 | foxlit | I don't think there's a way to detect that :/ |
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| 15:00.03 | Cairenn | of the folks going to blizzcon, anyone interested in getting together on the Sunday to do something - Disney or something? |
| 15:03.18 | Beladona | you know I will |
| 15:04.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'll drink a toast at the approximate hour, wishin' y'all fun! |
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| 15:29.32 | Industrial | Can anyone check my code? Why is my Frame.HealthText not above the Frame.HealthBar? pic: http://i18.tinypic.com/63sl8vt.jpg code:http://pastey.net/70277 |
| 15:31.28 | cog|work | Maybe make the text a child of the healthbar itself? |
| 15:31.50 | Industrial | hmm |
| 15:33.01 | Ky|Work | would :SetFrameLevel do anything? |
| 15:33.22 | Industrial | bingo @ cogs suggestion |
| 15:33.32 | Industrial | http://i15.tinypic.com/4ms7860.jpg |
| 15:33.46 | Ky|Work | ah |
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| 15:35.41 | Artois | Hey, does anyone know how to increase the "Out of range" range on Grid? |
| 15:36.05 | Artois | Atm it's set so that it shows when they'r out of range from buffs, i need if to show then they'r out of range for heals |
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| 15:39.33 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm... I don't know that one, I don't use Grid. |
| 15:39.38 | krka | can someone explain all the magic numbers in models? |
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| 15:47.37 | Josh_Borke | no |
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| 15:48.45 | krka | figures |
| 15:52.49 | krka | weird stuff, this model |
| 15:53.10 | zenzelezz | which model? |
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| 15:55.09 | Valaron|Work | Gah.. I hate turning off production servers. |
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| 15:58.24 | nevcairiel | as long as i dont have to respond to the guys screaming that its down, i dont :P |
| 15:59.40 | Valaron|Work | It was already planned. It was announced in /etc/motd. I just got a call right before it finished coming all the way back online. "Hey! Our web server is not up. What's going on?" |
| 16:00.34 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:00.37 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm... hate that. I absolutely hate "I cannot read my e-mail, so I shall now panic." |
| 16:01.05 | nevcairiel | you could even send a round-mail, pin it to everyones screen, and they would still call. |
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| 16:04.41 | Lopeppeppy | The Average User is the one who gives ulcers to the support people. |
| 16:05.08 | Valaron|Work | Yes |
| 16:05.44 | Valaron|Work | Anyone use Mutt unix command line mail reader? |
| 16:08.58 | Kaydeethree | mutt <3 |
| 16:09.08 | foxlit | pine? :) |
| 16:09.33 | foxlit | There's a bunch of wow-related articles in the escapist again, may be interesting :) |
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| 16:16.01 | Valaron|Work | I was trying to figure out what Muttrc setting that does the same as the --with-mailpath compile option. |
| 16:18.56 | Valaron|Work | Oh.. and to top it all off, I think I fucked up a Solaris 8 server. |
| 16:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch. |
| 16:19.19 | Valaron|Work | It didn't boot off the primary drive. |
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| 16:22.56 | Valaron|Work | It did boot off the root mirror. |
| 16:23.19 | Lopeppeppy | At least it's booting... that's a start. Function, and then analysis. |
| 16:24.05 | Valaron|Work | I'm ready to throw it to the scrap yard. It's been trouble since the day we got it. |
| 16:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | Servers are like toddlers... some have sweet dispositions and never give you a problem, play in the corner with their crayolas and are always happy to get new coloring books (upgrades). Some pitch fits about the crayons not being sharp enough, running out of paper, and insist on coloring outside the lines. :( |
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| 17:07.34 | Industrial | How would I capitalize the first letter of a string :S |
| 17:07.53 | Industrial | oh string.upper |
| 17:08.10 | krka | hm, this is working pretty nicely |
| 17:08.21 | krka | more solid foundation than the previous incarnation |
| 17:08.35 | Industrial | no, string.upper does the whole string >_> |
| 17:08.56 | Cide | >>> string.sub |
| 17:08.56 | Cide | Cide: function: 002395A0 |
| 17:09.00 | Cide | ^ hint :) |
| 17:09.12 | krka | :) |
| 17:09.17 | Industrial | oh, right |
| 17:11.08 | Industrial | >>> function up(s) return string.upper(string.sub(s, 1, 1))..string.sub(s, 2) end up('player') |
| 17:11.08 | Cide | Industrial: nil |
| 17:11.11 | Industrial | >_> |
| 17:11.23 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, excellent. *facepalm* I'm working with Bliz Tech Support on my crash error. I zip up some files for them and send them off as requested. But it seems they can't unzip .rar files, so I have to re-send in .zip format. *sigh* |
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| 17:11.55 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: nice :) |
| 17:12.07 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I realize this is Captain Obvious, but don't use rar when they ask you to "zip" |
| 17:12.12 | Cide | krka: what're you doing? |
| 17:13.15 | Industrial | >>> string.upper(string.sub('player', 1, 1))..string.sub('player', 2) |
| 17:13.16 | Cide | Industrial: "Player" |
| 17:13.25 | clad|away | >>> debug |
| 17:13.25 | Cide | clad|away: { ["traceback"] = function: 0021A3E8 } (#1) |
| 17:13.31 | clad|away | >>> debug.traceback("", -100000000) |
| 17:13.52 | clad|away | hopefully that's still running in a seperate thread =) |
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| 17:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, they never specified, or I certainly would have followed directions. |
| 17:14.18 | Cide- | bastard! |
| 17:14.20 | clad|away | sorry =/ |
| 17:14.22 | clad|away | you should fix that |
| 17:14.30 | clad|away | only allow cogwheel's debugstack |
| 17:14.34 | clad|away | instead of debug.traceback() |
| 17:14.44 | Cide- | is it defined globally? |
| 17:14.46 | Cide- | >>> debugstack |
| 17:14.46 | Cide- | Cide-: function: 0025AAB8 |
| 17:14.53 | clad|away | you can't crash debugstack |
| 17:14.57 | clad|away | or just set debug.traceback to that |
| 17:15.07 | clad|away | >>> debugstack(-100000000) |
| 17:15.09 | clad|away | or. |
| 17:15.11 | clad|away | maybe i lied? |
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| 17:15.40 | clad|away | okay |
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| 17:15.45 | clad|away | that one crashes me too =/ |
| 17:15.47 | Cide | you sure? :P |
| 17:15.48 | clad|away | sorry |
| 17:15.53 | Cide | haha |
| 17:15.58 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: ah, I see... my bad |
| 17:16.01 | Cide | no problem |
| 17:16.06 | clad|away | shoudln't allow negative values |
| 17:17.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'm honestly not sure if my .rar zipper blocks Windows XP |
| 17:17.19 | Lopeppeppy | ....'s native zipper program. I'll have to muck with it when I get home. |
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| 17:17.30 | Valaron|Work | Get 7zip |
| 17:17.47 | cog|work | 7-zip > * |
| 17:17.58 | Cide | windows xp's native zip program doesn't support .rar afaik |
| 17:18.08 | Valaron|Work | I think you're right. |
| 17:18.16 | Lopeppeppy | I think I'll have to. I got WinRar a while back for the rare .rar addon because the native zip didn't support .rar. |
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| 17:18.47 | Cide | that's nasty, clad|away |
| 17:18.49 | Lopeppeppy | But IIRC, there wasn't an option to save as .zip file when I compressed.... anyway, it's mental masturbation since it's on my home computer and not here to solve. |
| 17:18.57 | Cide | the two lua processes are still running |
| 17:19.06 | Cide | one using up 45% of my cpu, the other 41% |
| 17:19.22 | clad|away | Cide: yeah, it consumes cycles in C |
| 17:19.28 | Cide- | clad|away: |
| 17:19.28 | Cide- | I'll just wipe out debug |
| 17:19.34 | clad|away | well, debugstack() |
| 17:19.37 | clad|away | i just hook it |
| 17:19.41 | clad|away | and don't allow negative values. |
| 17:19.46 | clad|away | just made the change |
| 17:19.57 | Cide | yeah, I didn't actually type that just now :P |
| 17:20.15 | Valaron|Work | It's going to be 103 tomorrow. |
| 17:20.16 | clad|away | heheh |
| 17:20.37 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch, Valaron. I feel guilty over here in New York shivering.... |
| 17:20.55 | Valaron|Work | Shivering? Whereabouts in NY? |
| 17:20.57 | kergoth | 116 tomorrow here. phoenix ftl. |
| 17:21.24 | mikma | anyone here use other locale than enUS/enGB? I could use some translations if you have the time :) |
| 17:22.02 | Cide | >>> debugstack(-100000) |
| 17:22.02 | Cide | Cide: nil |
| 17:22.06 | Cide | >>> debugstack(0) |
| 17:22.06 | Cide | Cide: "\nstack traceback:\n\t[C]: ?\n\t[C]: in function 'olddebugstack'\n\td:\\lua\\input.tmp:272: in function <d:\\lua\\input.tmp:270>\n\t(tail call): ?\n\t[C]: in function 'pcall'\n\td:\\lua\\input.tmp:316: in main ch... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 17:22.18 | Cide | I guess that works |
| 17:22.29 | Lopeppeppy | Albany area, Valaron. |
| 17:22.40 | clad|away | i spit out an error instead |
| 17:22.44 | clad|away | for fun |
| 17:23.10 | clad|away | Lopeppeppy: its gonna be cold tomorrow indeed =/ |
| 17:23.22 | Cide | >>> debugstack(-100000) |
| 17:23.23 | Cide | Cide: d:\lua\input.tmp:271: it's time for the cake to turn into a machine |
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| 17:27.17 | TS|Skrom | pew pew |
| 17:29.22 | Lopeppeppy | Lazer beeems? |
| 17:29.33 | TS|Skrom | of course |
| 17:30.34 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/ugotz.jpg |
| 17:31.05 | Valaron|Work | I didn't get the iPhone.. got me the Wii instead. |
| 17:31.29 | krka | Cide: i am reviving autotravel |
| 17:31.45 | Cide | how? :P |
| 17:32.16 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, don't make me start flashing my "my cat is cuter" pictures! *laugh* |
| 17:32.16 | Cide | I actually took a look at the old version a couple of days ago, out of curiosity |
| 17:32.53 | Cide | http://xkcd.com/c231.html <- the truth about cats |
| 17:34.27 | Lunessa | Cats secretly rule the universe. They're in our AddOn code, fuxing our lua. |
| 17:35.05 | Antiarc|Work | Argh. 4 billion incoming "halp my omen is broked y iz it updated so fast" posts :( |
| 17:35.26 | Lunessa | OH noes. commited a change too soon? |
| 17:35.33 | Antiarc|Work | No, http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/03/a-faster-better-stronger-threatmeter/ |
| 17:36.01 | Antiarc|Work | Anything I've had linked on wowinsider has seen a massive surge in traffic |
| 17:36.14 | Antiarc|Work | And I'm sure that most readers aren't the "update early, update often" crowd |
| 17:36.40 | Lunessa | Ah. |
| 17:36.49 | Valaron|Work | Sometimes, I have a little OCD when it comes to the Wowaceupdater. |
| 17:36.55 | Lunessa | Most people are too lazy to even read the install instructions. |
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| 17:37.09 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just trying to yell very clearly "STILL BETA PLEASE UPDATE OFTEN" |
| 17:37.12 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: please do :) |
| 17:37.20 | Antiarc|Work | But...well, people complain about how often I check in changes. :P |
| 17:38.34 | Lunessa | I'm just waiting until you announce release quality. :P |
| 17:38.59 | Lunessa | I don't currently use a threat meter of any sort, though Pitbull does include your lib. |
| 17:42.55 | krka | Cide: the plan is to give the user directions instead |
| 17:46.22 | Cide | krka: ah |
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| 18:00.59 | Lunessa | Tuesdays are 'teh suk' for getting my forum fix. |
| 18:01.27 | Lopeppeppy | Tuesdays just seem to be sucky all around. |
| 18:02.00 | foxlit | Tuesdays are win |
| 18:02.00 | Lunessa | I mean, I don't mind them in-general, but I'm bored, at work, and would like something to read. :D |
| 18:02.09 | foxlit | I get to listen to Downtime Downunder, and I get to play WoW |
| 18:02.09 | Valaron|Work | Same. |
| 18:02.15 | foxlit | That's like double win |
| 18:02.28 | Valaron|Work | Stuck at work.. the day before a holiday. |
| 18:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | My eyes are fried from creating webforms.... |
| 18:04.20 | Valaron|Work | Wanna go home to play Super Paper Mario. |
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| 18:08.54 | Lopeppeppy | Wanna go home and play fishing-pole with my kitty.... |
| 18:09.29 | zenzelezz | :-) |
| 18:10.10 | Lunessa | Already her mind has been subverted. |
| 18:10.51 | Lopeppeppy | I am an admitted slave. *shrug* |
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| 18:47.33 | Industrial | what color is focus? |
| 18:47.52 | Ky|Work | snosberries |
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| 18:48.32 | Ky|Work | Isn't the default focus a white-glow? |
| 18:48.51 | Industrial | focus is the hunter pet mana |
| 18:49.03 | Ky|Work | oh |
| 18:49.08 | zenzelezz | hold on, I have that somewhere |
| 18:49.15 | Industrial | ok |
| 18:49.17 | Industrial | :) |
| 18:49.17 | Ky|Work | haa |
| 18:49.50 | zenzelezz | 0.75, 0.25, 0.0 |
| 18:50.04 | Industrial | thx! |
| 18:50.08 | Industrial | so orangeish |
| 18:50.14 | foxlit | Gryphen: pokepoke! |
| 18:50.20 | Gryphen | poke |
| 18:50.32 | foxlit | Think it's time to merge Tooltip/Dev into Tooltip |
| 18:50.39 | foxlit | Since nobody seems to have anything to say :) |
| 18:50.57 | Gryphen | ok |
| 18:51.44 | foxlit | Though I may be stealing Tusva's thunder with that :) |
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| 19:02.29 | Industrial | kergoth: http://i12.tinypic.com/66ae1ir.jpg |
| 19:04.27 | Industrial | http://i10.tinypic.com/4kp1t7b.jpg |
| 19:04.28 | Industrial | :D |
| 19:05.32 | abug | tremove is the best thing since sliced bread imo |
| 19:05.56 | Industrial | tremove? |
| 19:06.15 | cog|work | >>> tremove == table.remove |
| 19:06.15 | Cide | cog|work: true |
| 19:06.44 | abug | beats shifting the elements manually |
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| 19:08.52 | cog|work | Industrial: WoW started out with Lua 4. Lua 5 moved most of the standard libraries into tables. Instead of changing all their code, they just made global aliases to the library functions :P |
| 19:11.56 | Cide | I wish they hadn't :) |
| 19:12.28 | zenzelezz | surely they could've used a find and replace in files :-| |
| 19:14.29 | kergoth | sounds like blizzard needs to learn about sed |
| 19:14.41 | kergoth | meh |
| 19:19.19 | Tem|AFK | yay |
| 19:19.22 | Tem|AFK | well done, blizzard |
| 19:19.30 | Tem|AFK | you finally handled a delay properly |
| 19:19.47 | Tem|AFK | you gave an estimate that was double the time you needed |
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| 19:19.54 | Tem|AFK | and you said you'd update us |
| 19:20.10 | Tem|AFK | hmm, but I have a 3k ping |
| 19:20.14 | Tem|AFK | oh, right |
| 19:20.17 | Tem|AFK | torrents |
| 19:20.20 | Antiarc|Work | ahahah |
| 19:20.28 | Cide | my server's still not up =/ |
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| 19:21.02 | Tem|AFK | okay, so the little comments the skyguard and ogri'la people make when you're revered are awesome |
| 19:21.26 | Tem|AFK | <name>, do you feel the need -- the need for speed? |
| 19:21.27 | clad|away | what are they? |
| 19:21.29 | clad|away | lol |
| 19:22.05 | Tem|AFK | Maybe one day <name> will teach us some of <gender specific possivie pronoun> tricks? |
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| 19:22.22 | Tem|AFK | Ace pilot <name>, 12 o'clock! |
| 19:22.43 | Tem|AFK | Well, if it isn't our resident fly<gender>, <name>. How's it going, ace? |
| 19:23.03 | Tem|AFK | I'd be honored to have you on my wing anytime, <name>. |
| 19:23.14 | Tem|AFK | the ogri'la ones are better |
| 19:23.25 | Tem|AFK | the orges dance with you and stuff |
| 19:23.46 | zenzelezz | I like the comments from the ghosts/demons before Maiden in Kara better |
| 19:24.02 | Kaydeethree | kinda weird that the dragonmaw clan orcs don't start bowing or saluting when you pass by at revered+ |
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| 19:24.52 | zenzelezz | do any faction at all do that? |
| 19:24.58 | Tem|AFK | I don't think so |
| 19:25.07 | Tem|AFK | Ogri'la and skyguard are the first I've noticed |
| 19:25.45 | Tem|AFK | okay lol |
| 19:25.55 | Tem|AFK | my 5v5 hasn't played any games since the rest |
| 19:25.59 | Tem|AFK | and we're now a ranked team |
| 19:26.19 | Tem|AFK | aparently most of the people in my battlegroup have just been dropping in rating from 1500 |
| 19:26.25 | Tem|AFK | s/rest/reset/ |
| 19:26.57 | clad|away | hehe |
| 19:27.24 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:27.37 | nevcairiel | some have to advance tho =) |
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| 19:28.31 | Tem|AFK | I wish I had an active 5v5, though |
| 19:28.48 | Tem|AFK | our best 2 players have been awol since I hit 70 |
| 19:29.43 | Cide | 5v5 is so fun |
| 19:38.23 | Tem|AFK | my only experience with it so far has been very negative |
| 19:42.57 | foxlit | Think 2v2 is better as a format |
| 19:43.16 | Cide | nah |
| 19:43.31 | Cide | 2v2 relies heavily on class composition |
| 19:43.55 | Cide | which still happens in 5v5, sure, but not nearly as much |
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| 19:46.00 | Antiarc|Work | 5v5's a lot harder to power through |
| 19:46.19 | Antiarc|Work | 2v2, you can load up a POM Pyro mage and whatever else and just blow one of 'em down |
| 19:46.22 | Antiarc|Work | If you do, you win, else, you lose. |
| 19:46.23 | Shadowed | not really |
| 19:46.29 | nevcairiel | 5v5 is simpl "get 2 MS Warr, 2 Pallys, something random"- you win |
| 19:46.44 | nevcairiel | agains anything that doesnt have 2 MS |
| 19:46.44 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, 2 paladin/2 warrior is just not fun to fight >_< |
| 19:47.03 | Cide | nevcairiel: is that why teams such as pandemic are winning massively? :P |
| 19:47.04 | Shadowed | they're rather easy |
| 19:47.14 | Antiarc|Work | Honestly, I really hope they continue to aggressively balance classes for PVP based on aggregate arena data |
| 19:47.18 | Shadowed | Kill the Paladins and you win |
| 19:47.20 | Cide | they're hard to beat, sure, but you can beat them with skill |
| 19:47.24 | Antiarc|Work | That's easier said than done, Shadowed. |
| 19:47.30 | Shadowed | it is actually |
| 19:47.34 | nevcairiel | Cide: dunno their setup, but blizzard has to nerf MS in arenas |
| 19:47.46 | Cide | nevcairiel: I don't think they should nerf MS |
| 19:47.46 | Shadowed | If we can kill a 2 War/2 Pal/Ele Shaman team with 2 melee, teams with more range can do it without much hassle |
| 19:47.48 | Antiarc|Work | MS should be a stacking debuff like Wound Poison >_>i |
| 19:47.48 | Shadowed | no they don't |
| 19:47.54 | Shadowed | uh no |
| 19:47.55 | Cide | but I think warriors need their damage output lowered a tad |
| 19:47.58 | Cide | in arenas |
| 19:47.58 | Shadowed | you'd have to change the mechanics of MS completely |
| 19:48.11 | nevcairiel | well then their output |
| 19:48.17 | cog|work | wewt! Finally able to post... |
| 19:48.17 | nevcairiel | but somethign has to be done about warriors |
| 19:48.20 | Shadowed | their output sucks against good teams |
| 19:48.24 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=115045799#2 XD |
| 19:48.33 | Shirik | Antiarc: up to 10 stacks yeah? |
| 19:48.34 | Shadowed | the only reason people complain is because you always remember the game that the Warrior hit you for 2k 3 times |
| 19:48.42 | Antiarc|Work | Shadowed: As a rogue, that's every game. |
| 19:48.50 | Shadowed | not really |
| 19:48.53 | Shadowed | it's called resilience |
| 19:49.03 | Shirik | Shadowed: But they forget when the hunter hit you for 5k followed by 3x 2k? |
| 19:49.05 | Shadowed | Warriors get horrible rage generation when they don't crit against high resilience targets |
| 19:49.06 | Antiarc|Work | Non-crits hurt like hell on leather. |
| 19:49.14 | Shadowed | Hunters hurt actually Shirik |
| 19:49.18 | Shadowed | just not many people know how to play them |
| 19:49.21 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, and my stuns give MS warriors rage. |
| 19:49.26 | Shirik | I know that's what I'm saying :) |
| 19:49.28 | Shadowed | heres a tip |
| 19:49.32 | Shirik | MS warriors aren't op :P |
| 19:49.32 | Shadowed | Don't go on the Warrior |
| 19:49.45 | Cide | Antiarc|Work: sadly, rogues are pretty meh in 5v5 =/ |
| 19:49.46 | Antiarc|Work | The problem is usually when the warrior's on me. |
| 19:49.57 | Shadowed | Thats what healers and cooldowns are for |
| 19:49.59 | Lunessa | N00b question time... can someone actually explain to me how resilience works? It is just "crit reduction"? |
| 19:50.01 | Antiarc|Work | Cide: Yes, unfortunately. They're basically a poor man's low-HP warrior. |
| 19:50.08 | Cide | yep |
| 19:50.11 | Shadowed | Cide they're really not as bad as people make them out to be |
| 19:50.24 | Shadowed | it depends on your battlegroup to much |
| 19:50.40 | Shirik | aah! so many bug reports since I left >< |
| 19:50.47 | Cide | they're good until you get up in the higher ratings =/ |
| 19:50.48 | Antiarc|Work | There really isn't much that a rogue brings to an arena team that a warrior doesn't bring better, which is the crux of the issue. |
| 19:51.08 | Cide | I'd take another warrior over a rogue every single time |
| 19:51.09 | Antiarc|Work | Rogues are good, but they're just completely eclipsed by wars. |
| 19:51.12 | Shadowed | We got up to around 2.2k first season easly |
| 19:51.14 | Shadowed | with a Rogue |
| 19:51.19 | Shadowed | not really |
| 19:51.23 | Cide | Shadowed: it's possible, sure |
| 19:51.29 | Shadowed | Warriors stack horribly unless you specifically make your group setup to work with them |
| 19:51.38 | Antiarc|Work | Which top teams do |
| 19:51.44 | Antiarc|Work | With that whole set team thing |
| 19:51.46 | Shadowed | I'll repeat what I said |
| 19:51.48 | Shadowed | and i'll repeat this a lot |
| 19:51.54 | Shadowed | [49:26] <Shadowed> it depends on your battlegroup to much |
| 19:52.06 | Shadowed | some battlegroups have the top 50 teams as 3 warrior stacked, others have 2 |
| 19:52.21 | Antiarc|Work | It'd be interesting to see empirical validation of that claim |
| 19:52.25 | Antiarc|Work | (which is possible with the armory, FWIW) |
| 19:52.40 | Shadowed | Ours isn't (and wasn't) Warrior stacked last season, and for others it is |
| 19:52.42 | Antiarc|Work | Because the last time I ran the stats, the top teams were all war/paladin heavy by a large margin. |
| 19:53.11 | Shadowed | Which is called stacked not just tossing another warrior in |
| 19:53.26 | Shadowed | It's an easy to beat the stacked groups provided you actually know how to kill a Paladin, most people just try and kill someone else |
| 19:54.38 | Antiarc|Work | And provided that the freedom'd warriors don't obliterate your DPS while you try to kill the paladin. |
| 19:54.56 | Antiarc|Work | War/paladin teams are all about mitigating the warriors, which can be hard as hell with good paladins. |
| 19:55.25 | Antiarc|Work | (running the numbers on all current 2k+ arena teams now, FWIW) |
| 19:56.45 | cog|work | WTB Heroic Gnomer |
| 19:56.51 | cog|work | and no... |
| 19:58.55 | Lunessa | cog|work: I'd do Heroic Gnomeregan - if It meant we could open it up as a new city. :) |
| 19:59.08 | cog|work | Heh |
| 19:59.37 | cog|work | world event for WoW 5.0... The Liberation of Gnomeregan |
| 19:59.55 | Lunessa | That would be sort of cool, no? |
| 20:00.12 | cog|work | I've been imagining something like that since 1.5-ish :P |
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| 20:01.55 | Bam__ | anyone know of a way to get the maximum number of charges on an expendable item? |
| 20:02.02 | Lunessa | One of my complaints about MMOs is that they world isn't really dynamic. It's static. I mean, if I kill Edwin VanCleef, another group gets to kill him later. Some events like opening the gates are examples of what I'd like to see more often in MMOs. |
| 20:02.07 | cog|work | The volcano under IF erupts sending the dwarves packing and they take over Gnomeregan :P |
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| 20:03.06 | cog|work | Bam__: I don't think you can, programatically... it's not something the UI needs to know, so it's likely not available |
| 20:03.13 | Lunessa | I mean... it's only some damned troggs. |
| 20:03.33 | Bam__ | cog|work: yes, that has sadly been my conclusion also so far :( |
| 20:03.44 | Shadowed | Don't they usually list the charges in the tooltip |
| 20:03.50 | cog|work | not the max |
| 20:03.53 | Bam__ | only charges left |
| 20:04.04 | Shadowed | When are you trying to find the info out? |
| 20:04.05 | Bam__ | my problem is that it affects the sell value when at a vendor |
| 20:04.14 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 20:04.26 | cog|work | Except for specifically addon-related APIs, everything is really there for blizzard's own UI purposes. |
| 20:04.27 | Bam__ | so tooltip scanning goes wrong.. records incorrect prices |
| 20:05.01 | Bam__ | best solution I have found is to scan the tooltip to see if the item has any charges and simply not record the price |
| 20:05.18 | Shadowed | Is the price consistant with the charges? |
| 20:05.19 | Bam__ | I am very keen on not getting wrong prices :) |
| 20:05.26 | Shadowed | eg, it sells for 50 silver per a charge |
| 20:05.45 | Bam__ | I think so but I don't know for sure if it's a linear reduction |
| 20:06.00 | Bam__ | and there could be rounding errors too |
| 20:06.36 | Bam__ | it's sort of the same issue with durability |
| 20:06.50 | Bam__ | although you can scan to find the max durability |
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| 20:18.29 | Beladona | couldn't you get the item id, scan a "new" version of it to get the max charges, then scan the tooltip of your existing item to get current charges? |
| 20:18.44 | Beladona | seems expensive, but it should work |
| 20:19.07 | Bam__ | unfortunately the generic link shows no charges at all :( |
| 20:19.13 | Beladona | ouch |
| 20:19.31 | Beladona | maybe I can slip that little nugget in at Blizzcon |
| 20:19.34 | Beladona | =) |
| 20:19.42 | Bam__ | hehe... |
| 20:20.01 | Beladona | I have seen simpler things added that worked the same way |
| 20:20.41 | Bam__ | well could you slip in that GameTooltip:GetItem() also returns item count? :) |
| 20:20.54 | Beladona | not long ago we needed a way to get what gems were socketed in a given item without scanning the textures and comparing against a known list |
| 20:21.00 | Bam__ | that would save a lot of hooking functionality |
| 20:22.00 | Bam__ | oh and also GameTooltip:SetSpell() should accept spell name like all the other spell functions... it seems like an oversight |
| 20:22.38 | Bam__ | I hope you are taking notes lol |
| 20:22.58 | Cide | you should post that stuff in the thread over at www.wowinterface.com |
| 20:23.14 | Cide | which is most likely the one in the topic |
| 20:23.16 | Bam__ | oh.. a suggestion thread? |
| 20:23.39 | Cide | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10781 |
| 20:23.48 | Cide | heh, nope, not the one |
| 20:24.45 | Bam__ | oh well it's a bit of a journey for me... so think I will pass on the ticket :D |
| 20:24.48 | Cide | yes, there's a suggestion thread if you find it |
| 20:25.27 | cog|work | how 'bout this one: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523 |
| 20:25.35 | Josh_Borke | 42 |
| 20:25.40 | Bam__ | I am in EU :( |
| 20:26.09 | Josh_Borke | pastey what you want suggested |
| 20:26.11 | Josh_Borke | and i'll post |
| 20:26.18 | Josh_Borke | just don't make me think |
| 20:26.24 | Bam__ | cheers |
| 20:26.34 | Josh_Borke | like kirkburn did |
| 20:26.46 | Bam__ | thinking does usually hurt |
| 20:28.15 | Josh_Borke | yes, yes it does |
| 20:29.21 | Lunessa | Thinking makes me want to just scream "VanCleef pay big for your heads!" |
| 20:33.16 | Industrial | cog|work: pff never heard of regular expressions? |
| 20:33.32 | Industrial | cog|work: imho :P |
| 20:33.38 | Industrial | cog|work: and revisioning. |
| 20:33.49 | Bam__ | lol.. an optimistic suggestion in that thread: "Vendor value without being at a vendor" |
| 20:33.50 | Industrial | (about the trmove thing) |
| 20:34.07 | cog|work | Hey... it's not like *I* made the decision :P |
| 20:34.11 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 20:35.49 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.49 | Josh_Borke | Events |
| 20:35.49 | Josh_Borke | UNIT_AURA argument with name of aura |
| 20:35.50 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
| 20:35.51 | bleeter | cog|work: you could add to the 'declined' thread 'Per realm SVs' (We at auctioneer asked about them a couple of months ago, norgs said slouken declined) |
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| 21:20.29 | Cair | net split! |
| 21:20.29 | slayer2 | hi all |
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| 21:20.33 | slayer2 | what |
| 21:21.05 | Cair | welcome back |
| 21:21.05 | slayer2 | waht |
| 21:21.05 | slayer2 | what |
| 21:21.16 | Josh_Borke | hi cair |
| 21:21.16 | Lunessa | Haha... been a while since I've seen that happen. |
| 21:21.25 | slayer2 | don't |
| 21:21.35 | slayer2 | i'dont english |
| 21:21.35 | slayer2 | k'now |
| 21:21.40 | slayer2 | bad |
| 21:21.43 | zenzelezz | the primary language in this channel is English |
| 21:21.45 | slayer2 | know |
| 21:21.54 | slayer2 | i know |
| 21:22.05 | Valaron|Work | What? |
| 21:22.05 | Josh_Borke | take your time |
| 21:22.13 | slayer2 | i'm from Russia =) |
| 21:22.25 | slayer2 | say my time |
| 21:22.32 | slayer2 | 1:22 |
| 21:22.34 | slayer2 | =) |
| 21:22.39 | slayer2 | night |
| 21:22.46 | slayer2 | in the Russia |
| 21:22.46 | Josh_Borke | that's fine. we have people from all over |
| 21:23.01 | Josh_Borke | please don't space your sentences out so much. try to get the statements on one line |
| 21:23.03 | slayer2 | à âû ïî ðóññêè ïîíèàåòå |
| 21:23.35 | slayer2 | please wait |
| 21:23.41 | slayer2 | i |
| 21:23.54 | slayer2 | im \ |
| 21:23.59 | bleeter | ‽ |
| 21:24.08 | slayer2 | say |
| 21:24.13 | slayer2 | i'm |
| 21:24.23 | slayer2 | i'm say english bad |
| 21:24.28 | slayer2 | my english bad |
| 21:24.42 | slayer2 | 9 great |
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| 21:24.47 | slayer2 | vrode tak |
| 21:24.50 | Josh_Borke | that's fine. but put it all on one line |
| 21:25.13 | Josh_Borke | root |
| 21:25.20 | bleeter | shag |
| 21:25.30 | bleeter | BOOBIES! |
| 21:25.45 | slayer2 | please wait ? i'm now back |
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| 21:29.00 | slayer2 | *hit |
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| 21:34.43 | slayer2 | Here exist who nibud |
| 21:34.59 | Valaron|Work | What in the world are you doing? |
| 21:35.29 | slayer2 | kto |
| 21:35.41 | slayer2 | who?. |
| 21:35.46 | slayer2 | oups |
| 21:35.58 | Josh_Borke | he doesn't know english very well, so he's trying to communicate |
| 21:36.35 | slayer2 | Mine dictionary PP |
| 21:36.39 | slayer2 | gg |
| 21:36.42 | slayer2 | =)) |
| 21:36.51 | slayer2 | you game WoW |
| 21:37.24 | slayer2 | And how many you have time? |
| 21:37.31 | slayer2 | ( |
| 21:37.43 | slayer2 | áë |
| 21:37.45 | slayer2 | \ÿ |
| 21:37.53 | slayer2 | ôàê |
| 21:38.17 | MentalPower|ZzZz | slayer2: english, please |
| 21:38.33 | slayer2 | âñå ÷òî òî äåëàþò, à ÿ òóò èùó ñ êåì ïîãîâîðèòü |
| 21:38.40 | slayer2 | dont |
| 21:38.42 | slayer2 | sorry |
| 21:38.43 | MentalPower|Work | thats not helping... |
| 21:38.45 | Cair | easy with the question marks, please |
| 21:38.57 | slayer2 | Everything that that make, and I here search with whom to talk |
| 21:39.09 | zenzelezz | not strictly question marks Cairenn, just unrecognized characters |
| 21:39.11 | Josh_Borke | we don't have any russion users |
| 21:39.28 | MentalPower|Work | Josh_Borke: how do you know he's russian? |
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| 21:39.35 | Josh_Borke | he stated such |
| 21:39.44 | slayer2 | dont russion |
| 21:39.51 | Josh_Borke | ok, he's in russia then |
| 21:40.01 | cog|work | Might I suggest http://www.google.ru/language_tools?hl=ru |
| 21:40.05 | slayer2 | ( |
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| 21:40.55 | slayer2 | And you where live? |
| 21:41.08 | cog|work | Most of us are in US or EU |
| 21:41.31 | Josh_Borke | i'd make a smart ass remark, but i'd rather not confuse him more |
| 21:42.14 | slayer2 | who smart ass& |
| 21:43.10 | MentalPower|Work | Josh_Borke: nice |
| 21:43.19 | slayer2 | How many you have person in vov plays |
| 21:43.47 | Cair | most of the people in this channel play wow |
| 21:44.00 | slayer2 | All? |
| 21:44.08 | Cair | but even more so, everyone in this channel creates UI for it |
| 21:44.24 | Valaron|Work | Well... |
| 21:44.26 | Valaron|Work | Not everyone :P |
| 21:44.31 | Cair | I said most |
| 21:45.07 | slayer2 | no |
| 21:45.13 | slayer2 | serwer |
| 21:45.17 | slayer2 | server |
| 21:45.42 | slayer2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.47 | slayer2 | total? |
| 21:45.57 | slayer2 | it is oficcial |
| 21:45.58 | slayer2 | ? |
| 21:46.02 | slayer2 | or no |
| 21:46.04 | Valaron|Work | 2 |
| 21:46.04 | slayer2 | t |
| 21:46.18 | slayer2 | =)it the total |
| 21:46.27 | slayer2 | ADSL |
| 21:46.32 | slayer2 | JDSL |
| 21:46.39 | slayer2 | duo-lap |
| 21:46.42 | slayer2 | g |
| 21:46.47 | Cair | all kinds of different ones |
| 21:46.48 | zenzelezz | please don't use so many lines |
| 21:47.06 | Cair | we're not all on the same server |
| 21:47.27 | slayer2 | how many? |
| 21:47.29 | slayer2 | 1 |
| 21:47.50 | nevcairiel | i dont even understand what he is asking *shrug |
| 21:48.00 | Valaron|Work | Me neither. |
| 21:48.15 | slayer2 | ) |
| 21:48.24 | cog|work | slayer2: I understand that you're trying, but since none of us can really understand you and you are taking up so many lines, its getting sort of annoying :( |
| 21:48.27 | slayer2 | or I know |
| 21:48.27 | Cair | unfortunately, neither do I - I wish ... ummm, shoot, what was his name ... grrrrr ... was back |
| 21:48.50 | zenzelezz | grrrrr, that's a nice druid name |
| 21:48.59 | Cair | lol |
| 21:49.22 | Cair | zespri? |
| 21:49.45 | slayer2 | Here is mine what such bad dictionary that mine writes how chukcha |
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| 21:50.28 | Cair | was it zespri who was russian by birth but living in australia or new zealand, and disappeared for a while from channel because he was going home for a couple months? I think it was him |
| 21:51.10 | cog|work | I never really liked playing a druid, but I wanted to play one along with my wife's hunter... I'd be feral and charter a guild called <Mikina's Pet> |
| 21:51.12 | slayer2 | he there |
| 21:51.24 | slayer2 | palladin cool |
| 21:51.26 | nevcairiel | playing a druid is all i do |
| 21:51.32 | slayer2 | warrior bb |
| 21:51.45 | slayer2 | druid is so cool |
| 21:51.56 | Lunessa | cog|work: - That's funny. |
| 21:53.03 | slayer2 | Now you understand as in Russia study English |
| 21:54.54 | slayer2 | ÷å ðóññêèé òî íèêòî íå ïîíèìàåò áëÿ |
| 21:55.03 | slayer2 | áóáëèêè |
| 21:55.11 | slayer2 | ñöóêî òóïî |
| 21:55.24 | slayer2 | 3àèìàëñÿ íà èíãëèøå áëÿ ïèñàòü |
| 21:55.39 | nevcairiel | my client doesnt even display that as russian .. i should get some UTF8 compat thing :P |
| 21:55.45 | cog|work | 今å¤å…¬é–‹ã®ãƒã‚±ãƒ¢ãƒ³æ˜ ç”»æœ€æ–°æƒ…å ±ã‚’ãƒã‚§ãƒƒã‚¯ |
| 21:55.57 | cog|work | mine doesn't display it in russian eaither |
| 21:55.57 | Punkie` | I can see it all in Opera web browser! /flex |
| 21:56.04 | cog|work | i don't think it's in UTF-8 |
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| 21:56.10 | cog|work | because I can see UTF-8 just fine |
| 21:56.12 | Lunessa | It's not. |
| 21:56.21 | nevcairiel | i get funny normal vocals with acents |
| 21:56.23 | zenzelezz | what's it called again, KOI-something? |
| 21:56.48 | cog|work | nevcairiel: same... i'm pretty sure that *is* the UTF-8 form of whatever he's typing |
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| 21:56.58 | nevcairiel | thats possible |
| 21:57.36 | slayer2 | im name ->Russia |
| 21:57.55 | slayer2 | \name Russian User |
| 21:57.59 | slayer2 | dont |
| 21:58.14 | slayer2 | dont |
| 21:58.18 | slayer2 | american |
| 21:58.20 | slayer2 | mirk |
| 21:58.23 | slayer2 | c |
| 21:58.32 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
| 21:58.44 | nevcairiel | hm, there wouldnt be anyone here with a good guide howto setup autoconf and automake ? :P |
| 21:59.09 | Russian | xexe |
| 21:59.18 | Russian | it is russian |
| 21:59.25 | Russian | lol is to |
| 21:59.37 | Russian | next xax |
| 21:59.37 | cog|work | nevcairiel: man autoconf :P |
| 22:00.00 | Russian | what |
| 22:00.07 | nevcairiel | that doc sucks :P |
| 22:00.14 | Russian | are there China users&!) |
| 22:00.26 | cog|work | I don't think i've ever learned anything useful from man pages XD |
| 22:00.46 | Russian | what |
| 22:00.49 | Russian | nev |
| 22:00.53 | Russian | cair |
| 22:01.22 | Russian | cerf |
| 22:01.32 | Russian | ñóêà òóïî |
| 22:01.43 | Russian | íàäåþñü 3à ìàòû íå 3àáàíÿò |
| 22:01.48 | Russian | sorry |
| 22:01.56 | Russian | it is russian mat |
| 22:02.27 | Russian | ñöóêî òðàõíèòåñü |
| 22:02.47 | Cair | stop with the ? spam |
| 22:03.10 | bleeter | Russian: either use a proper UTF IRC client, or stop. |
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| 22:04.14 | bleeter | nevcairiel: depends what you're planning to do. Personally, I just look at what others have done and copy/paste/expand that stuff (eg, Guifications, Guifications Plugin Pack and Pidgin are decent examples of autoconf stuff that touchs, imo, a lot of various aspects of those systems) |
| 22:07.53 | bleeter | cog|work: only useful man page is found via 'man man' |
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| 22:08.10 | zenzelezz | I've seen lots of helpful man pages |
| 22:08.38 | bleeter | I've seen more that blow than help |
| 22:08.39 | nevcairiel | i usually use man pages to lookup c syntax |
| 22:10.15 | bleeter | anyone here remember the old SunOS man pages and docs? |
| 22:10.36 | Valaron|Work | Which SunOS version? |
| 22:10.59 | bleeter | any, as long it was back before the docs got shipped on CD |
| 22:11.14 | bleeter | I had an entire bookcase filled with doc pages |
| 22:11.23 | Valaron|Work | I still have Sun U1 machines in use :P |
| 22:11.40 | Russian | àùà |
| 22:11.43 | Russian | \fof |
| 22:11.53 | Russian | darksorrow |
| 22:11.56 | Russian | shanel |
| 22:12.00 | Russian | shannel |
| 22:12.07 | bleeter | Cair: kill it |
| 22:12.09 | Russian | dont :'( |
| 22:12.15 | Russian | [f[\ |
| 22:12.21 | Russian | hhha |
| 22:12.34 | Russian | speakteam by |
| 22:13.19 | nevcairiel | guess i will stick with my simple makefile until i have the time to dive into autoconf |
| 22:13.37 | Cide- | ah, how I love you, /ignore |
| 22:18.33 | Russian | f |
| 22:19.51 | Russian | \dd |
| 22:20.00 | Russian | fuc* |
| 22:20.13 | Russian | send mesage dont |
| 22:20.32 | Russian | êàê ó âàñ òóò ñîñàòü ñêà3àòü óðîäöû |
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| 22:21.07 | Russian | dubinu |
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| 22:21.39 | Lunessa | does /ignore work on irc? |
| 22:21.57 | Valaron|Work_ | Yes |
| 22:22.10 | Lunessa | Thanks. |
| 22:22.13 | bleeter | Lunessa: from memory, only if your client supports it. |
| 22:22.27 | Lunessa | Apparently Chatzilla does. |
| 22:22.29 | bleeter | Can't recall if it's part of the spec. |
| 22:25.37 | Cair | I feel bad, it's got to be frustrating to be trying and getting no where, simply due to language barriers |
| 22:26.11 | Lunessa | At least he could learn not to hit "enter" every 6 characters. |
| 22:26.38 | bleeter | and also to use a proper UTF IRC client so the Cyrillic shows up correctly |
| 22:27.24 | zenzelezz | for what it's worth, western people have no clue about UTF8 either |
| 22:27.44 | foxlit | UT_what? |
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| 22:27.55 | Lunessa | *cough* Lies! I do so understand about UTF8! |
| 22:28.04 | nevcairiel | good that we write in iso8859 :P |
| 22:28.06 | foxlit | Western European (Windows) is th eonly real encoding! |
| 22:28.11 | Valaron|Work_ | You know.. that Weird Al Yankovic movie. |
| 22:28.15 | Valaron|Work_ | :P |
| 22:28.23 | Lunessa | We get it all on UHF |
| 22:28.42 | Russian | í÷÷ôôô |
| 22:28.45 | Russian | yxxxaaa |
| 22:29.02 | bleeter | UTF9 & UTF18 FTW |
| 22:29.11 | Russian | ,kz |
| 22:29.15 | Russian | \bla 4e eto |
| 22:29.16 | bleeter | anyone got a PDP10? |
| 22:32.19 | Russian | oke BB all |
| 22:33.05 | Cair | bye |
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| 22:58.46 | Industrial | Is there a blizzard texture I can use to get a completly black background (wanting to use it as a border) |
| 22:58.58 | Industrial | the tooltip background is still not 100% black :( |
| 23:02.01 | cog|work | Can't you just use a background color? |
| 23:02.16 | cog|work | or is a texture necessary? |
| 23:02.54 | Industrial | no |
| 23:03.16 | Industrial | no, yes I can use a background color :P |
| 23:03.25 | cog|work | hehe |
| 23:03.37 | zenzelezz | <Layer level="BORDER"><Texture setAllPoints="true"><Color r="0.0" g="0.0" b="0.0"/></Texture></Layer>... how most of my solid-color backgrounds look |
| 23:03.39 | Industrial | i can just make a texture and SetVertexColor? |
| 23:03.44 | Industrial | right |
| 23:06.36 | Industrial | 63Gdd |
| 23:06.37 | Industrial | er |
| 23:06.42 | Industrial | wrong window :P |
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| 23:19.02 | Industrial | f=CreateFrame('Button', nil, UIParent) f.bg=f:CreateTexture(nil, 'BORDER') f.bg:SetAllPoints(f) f.bg:SetVertexColor(0, 0, 0, 1) f:SetWidth(100) f:SetHeight(100) f:SetPoint('CENTER', UIParent, 'CENTER') |
| 23:19.07 | Industrial | nothing? |
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| 23:25.07 | foxlit | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/69.html |
| 23:28.50 | Corrodias | TONIGHT |
| 23:28.54 | Corrodias | I SHALL INSTALL WOW ACE UPDATER |
| 23:29.12 | Lunessa | How about tonight, you click your Caps Lock key? |
| 23:29.26 | Industrial | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/71.html |
| 23:29.28 | Industrial | lol so cure |
| 23:29.30 | Industrial | cute |
| 23:29.39 | Corrodias | I MUST INSTALL IT WITH CAPS! |
| 23:30.06 | Industrial | DONT DO IT YOU WILL BE DRAWN TO THE DARK(lazy) SIDE |
| 23:30.12 | Industrial | srsly. |
| 23:30.34 | cog|work | I USED TO PROGRAM IN QUICKBASIC |
| 23:30.42 | Corrodias | the frequently updated ones would be a pain to update on mine. i don't bother unless something breaks, usually. |
| 23:30.43 | Industrial | haha |
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| 23:31.08 | Russian | hello again |
| 23:31.11 | Industrial | soon youll be all like "oh i got a bug with addon x oh i just ran the updater its fixed now" |
| 23:31.33 | Industrial | sif updating is a way of fixing things, lol |
| 23:31.36 | Corrodias | instead of "...oh i just downloaded an update from wowace.com and its fixed now" |
| 23:31.49 | Corrodias | i don't recognize "sif" |
| 23:31.56 | Industrial | sif |
| 23:32.01 | Corrodias | that doesn't clarify |
| 23:32.03 | Industrial | (;D) |
| 23:32.06 | Russian | sif&! |
| 23:33.00 | Industrial | so anyone know whats missing in the texture background code? |
| 23:33.27 | zenzelezz | try SetTexture(0, 0, 0, 1) instead of SetVertexColor |
| 23:34.17 | foxlit | Can skip the 1 as well |
| 23:34.23 | Industrial | k |
| 23:34.24 | foxlit | Just SetTexture(0,0,0) should get you black |
| 23:35.20 | Russian | hey |
| 23:35.37 | Russian | ïè3äóö |
| 23:36.00 | Industrial | oh oh, i like it. |
| 23:36.13 | Industrial | http://i15.tinypic.com/4yredyc.jpg |
| 23:36.35 | zenzelezz | SetVertexColor is for applying a color mask, of sorts, to a greyscale texture |
| 23:37.15 | Industrial | ah ok |
| 23:37.22 | Corrodias | that's fantastic, industrial! |
| 23:37.29 | Corrodias | i want my bars all like that :D |
| 23:37.48 | Corrodias | in fact, i think i'd like one large bar across my entire screen, perhaps represending my targettargettarget's mana |
| 23:37.49 | Industrial | lol cept the big mana bar but im working on that |
| 23:38.25 | Russian | -) |
| 23:40.52 | Russian | people prompt what addons possible load that beautiful! |
| 23:41.46 | Russian | ay |
| 23:41.50 | Industrial | whats a reasonable targettarget update delay? 0.5s? 0.2s(tooltip update time)? |
| 23:42.19 | zenzelezz | to check for change? |
| 23:42.19 | Russian | is addon? |
| 23:42.36 | Russian | it |
| 23:42.36 | zenzelezz | or to update the data about the targettarget, like HP/etc? |
| 23:42.48 | Industrial | latter |
| 23:43.05 | zenzelezz | I'd go with tooltip delay, should be fine |
| 23:43.18 | Russian | name addon |
| 23:43.23 | Russian | _____________ |
| 23:43.26 | Russian | say |
| 23:43.46 | zenzelezz | I think it's his own addon, not sure if he's released any part of it yet |
| 23:43.49 | Industrial | Russian: private :P |
| 23:43.56 | Russian | where\ |
| 23:43.57 | Industrial | not yet |
| 23:43.58 | Russian | ) |
| 23:44.24 | Industrial | secks http://i7.tinypic.com/6bsu3k7.jpg |
| 23:44.59 | Russian | tj whom& |
| 23:45.04 | Russian | to whom? |
| 23:45.06 | zenzelezz | personally I wouldn't like them quite so close to the center; but looking good |
| 23:46.02 | Russian | what is level Pries |
| 23:46.03 | Russian | t |
| 23:46.31 | Russian | unusually |
| 23:46.35 | Russian | addon |
| 23:46.54 | Russian | it waht is addon |
| 23:46.57 | Russian | what |
| 23:47.28 | Russian | ay\ |
| 23:48.05 | Russian | âñå ëè ñìûëèñü òî |
| 23:48.53 | Russian | it is got on I else return ) but how much beside you time presently? |
| 23:49.47 | Russian | I pin that we Russian do not understand your humour, but you our BB |
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| 23:50.21 | Industrial | soooo... what was he saying? |
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