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| 00:19.00 | Thunder_Child | has anyone tried running 5-10 VM's on a system + wow? |
| 00:19.10 | Thunder_Child | just 1 wow...not on all of them |
| 00:19.42 | Lunessa | No, but I'd expect you'd want a serious box to run that many VMs period. |
| 00:19.59 | AnduinLothar | why would you run 5-10 VM's? |
| 00:20.19 | Thunder_Child | uhh....for kicks |
| 00:20.46 | Thunder_Child | and for having multiple connections to vent |
| 00:20.51 | Thunder_Child | streaming music |
| 00:21.14 | AnduinLothar | you dont need a vm to streme music, unless you mean on vent |
| 00:21.39 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 00:23.13 | AnduinLothar | I have run WoW and VMWare/WinXP running RollerCoaster Tycoon at the same time, but whichever one is in the background is reduced in priority and takes a noticible performance hit. Might help if I had more than 2gb ram |
| 00:23.31 | Thunder_Child | well my machine can prolly handle it...i have about 10gb of ram RAM + Swap |
| 00:23.58 | Thunder_Child | 4 of ram and 6 of swap |
| 00:24.16 | AnduinLothar | mine could hold up to 16gb w/o swap, but it's hella expensive server ram |
| 00:24.17 | Thunder_Child | not much performance needed for vent though |
| 00:24.39 | AnduinLothar | it'd be easier to find a way to just run 2 vents at a time |
| 00:24.50 | AnduinLothar | like duplicate the exe or run one in unix |
| 00:24.55 | Thunder_Child | i cant, but i need to stream to more than 5 channels |
| 00:25.03 | Thunder_Child | err..i can |
| 00:25.04 | AnduinLothar | why? |
| 00:25.17 | Thunder_Child | fore each type of music |
| 00:25.19 | Thunder_Child | for* |
| 00:25.42 | Lunessa | So.... you're being 'internet radio' over Vent? |
| 00:25.47 | Thunder_Child | basicly |
| 00:26.04 | AnduinLothar | vent's not really designed for that. you'll have to have a lot of bandwidth |
| 00:26.07 | Thunder_Child | i cant create multiple vents in one...just appens -m at the end of the shortcut |
| 00:26.12 | Thunder_Child | append* |
| 00:26.16 | Thunder_Child | can* |
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| 00:28.13 | Thunder_Child | otherwise i would need a way to create virtual input devicesd |
| 00:28.17 | Thunder_Child | devices* |
| 00:29.46 | Arrowmaster | google virtual audio cables |
| 00:31.04 | Arrowmaster | i tried using it to put my xbox360 sound on one audio card input and output it over my 5.1 sound on another audio card but it had some slight lag, but it works find for stuff that the slight lag doesnt matter |
| 00:32.21 | Thunder_Child | hmm...interesting, i will try it out, thanks Arrowmaster |
| 00:33.05 | Arrowmaster | should do exactly what you want if your running multiple vent clients and multiple audio players |
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| 00:39.40 | deltron | Skrom|AFK: sup? |
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| 00:45.10 | TS|Skrom | hey what's happenin |
| 00:45.21 | TS|Skrom | hey mind if I ask where you work ? |
| 00:45.43 | Garoun|Loupana | who? |
| 00:45.48 | TS|Skrom | deltron |
| 00:46.10 | TS|Skrom | ongoing conversation XD |
| 00:46.11 | Garoun|Loupana | ah ok :) |
| 00:50.18 | TS|Skrom | anyone planning on watching Burn Notice tonight? |
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| 01:00.59 | Lunessa | TS|Skrom: I would. but I'll be at work when it comes on. |
| 01:01.12 | TS|Skrom | watched it last week, was rather impressed |
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| 01:01.56 | Lunessa | It has Bruce Campbell in it. It has to be fun! |
| 01:02.08 | TS|Skrom | haha |
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| 01:11.15 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | He who laughs last thinks slowest. |
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| 01:21.37 | foxlit | Results 1 - 10 of about 37,300 for "who are you and what have you done" |
| 01:21.49 | foxlit | A lot of wondering people out there |
| 01:22.13 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 01:22.33 | Shirik | I am Shirik |
| 01:22.54 | Shirik | and I created ...... |
| 01:22.58 | Shirik | I can't even think of something witty for that |
| 01:23.04 | TS|Skrom | ratkiller? |
| 01:23.10 | Shirik | not really, it's not done |
| 01:23.13 | foxlit | "who are you and what have you done with Shirik!" |
| 01:23.15 | TS|Skrom | bastard |
| 01:23.15 | Shirik | and it's called exterminator |
| 01:23.17 | Lunessa | OMG... people who don't read stickies, or blatantly say they are 'too lazy' make me a sad panda. |
| 01:23.21 | Shirik | purl, who are you and what have you done? |
| 01:23.22 | purl | Shirik: I think you lost me on that one |
| 01:23.28 | foxlit | "Who Are You And What Have You Done With My Mother?" |
| 01:24.20 | foxlit | random google queries are a sign of... something. |
| 01:24.34 | Shirik | ~google who are you and what have you done |
| 01:24.45 | Shirik | bah |
| 01:24.51 | Shirik | must have been some other bot |
| 01:25.00 | Shirik | maybe geordi |
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| 01:26.45 | Shirik | anyway, I gotta head off to bed, big day tomorrow |
| 01:26.46 | Shirik | take care |
| 01:26.50 | TS|Skrom | Lunessa at least he said thank you :D |
| 01:27.06 | Lunessa | *nods* But still... |
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| 01:50.53 | Nom- | Anyone know of something like WoW Web Stats which will actually break up the log file by encounter |
| 01:51.05 | Nom- | Like seperate stats for boss (attempts) vs trash etc. |
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| 01:55.53 | TS|Skrom | why does WoW mock me |
| 01:56.23 | TS|Skrom | playing my new mage. come across a tattered chest. Cross my fingers for a bag of any sort and what do I get? Pattern: Red Linen Bag |
| 01:57.44 | Arrowmaster | Nom-: but WWS does that, trash is only shown on the full report i think |
| 01:58.22 | cogwheel | Do you have to do tooltip scanning to get the rep faction of a unit? |
| 01:58.57 | cogwheel | glancing over the unit apis hasn't been very rewarding yet... |
| 01:59.01 | Kaso | Isnt there UnitFactionGroup ? |
| 01:59.10 | cogwheel | that's just alliance, horde, or nil |
| 01:59.15 | Thrae | #api UnitFactionGroup |
| 01:59.16 | ThraeBot | Thrae: UnitFactionGroup("unitid"); |
| 01:59.23 | Thrae | Well that's helpful |
| 01:59.25 | Wobwork | <3 Thraebot |
| 01:59.25 | Kaso | Does it return the same for NPCS? |
| 01:59.41 | cogwheel | it's pvp faction |
| 01:59.43 | Kaso | If so , i guess that tooltips it is. |
| 01:59.45 | cogwheel | not rep faction |
| 01:59.49 | cogwheel | :( |
| 02:00.13 | cogwheel | meh... it was just going to complicate things anyway :P |
| 02:00.38 | Thrae | cogwheel: For Hostile / Netural / Friendly, you want TinyTip's code. It gets it right when the server returns the right values. |
| 02:00.57 | cogwheel | that's not what i'm after either :( |
| 02:01.09 | Thrae | cogwheel: Basically, it uses a combination of UnitReaction and UnitCanAttack |
| 02:01.11 | cogwheel | I'm talking "The Scryers" or "Ironforge" |
| 02:01.12 | Thrae | Oh? |
| 02:01.18 | Thrae | Ah. Parse tooltips :D |
| 02:01.38 | Thrae | That's the only way, from what I know. |
| 02:01.47 | Thrae | If you have a unitId, you can do tooltip:SetUnit |
| 02:02.05 | cogwheel | it's for an example... i'd rather not get that info than do tooltip parsing :P |
| 02:02.16 | Thrae | Well...I think it's the only way ATM |
| 02:04.54 | Nom- | Arrowmaster: The problem is the full report is the one you want to some degree |
| 02:05.12 | Nom- | Otherwise you can't see the breakdown of raid damage/healing as it applies to just one boss |
| 02:05.45 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
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| 02:14.22 | Nom- | WWS ... we just want to see the stats as they apply to one boss |
| 02:14.32 | Nom- | Without manually cutting the logs, that doesn't seem possible |
| 02:15.48 | bleeter | Cairenn|afk: I just got a drop that made me think of you... [Twitching Leg] |
| 02:15.56 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 02:16.37 | Arrowmaster | Nom-: but WWS does that when you select the boss from the dropdown menu |
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| 02:32.02 | cogwheel | every unit that's dead is either a corpse or a ghost, right? |
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| 02:34.43 | Pac2722 | hey ppl watch out for keyloggers i got hit by 1 & still cant get my account back |
| 02:35.31 | Lunessa | *sigh* |
| 02:36.21 | Pac2722 | who ever has my account is on it with abot |
| 02:38.04 | Tem | wow |
| 02:38.10 | Tem | I really, really hate the race quests |
| 02:39.20 | Nom- | Arrowmaster: It doesn't... it doesn't break it down by player |
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| 02:41.22 | Thrae | #item justicar pauldrons |
| 02:41.24 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Justicar Pauldrons; Rarity: Purple; BoP; Shoulder; +31 Stamina; +24 Intellect; +1133 Armour; 1 Blue; 1 Yellow; +3 Intellect socket bonus; Requires L70; 100 Durability; Classes: Paladin Equip: Increases healing done by spells and effects by up to 68.; Equip: Restores 5 mana per 5 sec.. |
| 02:41.24 | ThraeBot | Thrae: (continued); Justicar Raiment Set; Set Items: Justicar Chestpiece Justicar Diadem Justicar Gloves Justicar Leggings Justicar Pauldrons; Set Bonus for 2: Increases the amount healed by your Judgement of Light by 20.;; Set Bonus for 4: Reduces the cooldown on your Divine Favor ability by 15 sec.; Get: Vendor. |
| 02:41.27 | Thrae | Go go spam |
| 02:48.01 | Lunessa | #item Primal Mooncloth |
| 02:48.02 | ThraeBot | Lunessa: Name: Primal Mooncloth; Rarity: Blue; 20 Stack; Consumable; Get: Created. |
| 02:48.18 | Lunessa | Nicely done. |
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| 02:57.48 | TS|Skrom | Another good "Burn Notice" |
| 02:58.08 | TS|Skrom | and an advertisement for another season of Psyche, so I'm happy :D |
| 02:59.41 | Lunessa | To quote my favorite outlands boss, "I ... hate ... you." |
| 03:00.19 | TS|Skrom | :( |
| 03:00.52 | Lunessa | I'm still in the office... the show started in my time zone 2 minutes ago, and will be 3/4 over by the time I get home. |
| 03:01.09 | Lunessa | And you have to login and say it was great? FIE ON YOU. :P |
| 03:01.13 | Thrae | Lunessa: Download it off the internets ;) |
| 03:01.31 | Thrae | It'll be up in about 1-2 hours |
| 03:01.36 | Lunessa | TS|Skrom: You know I'm just yanking your chain, right? |
| 03:01.41 | Lunessa | I don't torrent. |
| 03:01.58 | Thrae | Lunessa: On principle? |
| 03:02.08 | TS|Skrom | yeah lol |
| 03:02.27 | Thrae | Torrents aren't all illegal...it's not illegal to download something you could record off your TV for free >.< |
| 03:02.37 | Lunessa | I make my living based on Intellectual Property... I kind of have to believe in and act according to the belief in copyright. |
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| 03:02.56 | Thrae | Lunessa: So you don't record TV shows, at all? Timeshifting isn't illegal. |
| 03:03.20 | Lunessa | Actually, I don't - but because I'm too cheap to buy DVR and don't watch much TV anyway. |
| 03:03.59 | Lunessa | Time-shifting is legal, but I strongly suspect re-distribution is not. |
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| 03:05.07 | Thrae | Lunessa: Basically, it's not legal or illegal. There's nothing explicitly, or implicitly, stating that it's against the law. The same laws gere apply to copying your CDs to MP3s and storing your own copies. |
| 03:05.48 | Lunessa | granted, but putting it up on the internet for others to download is not the same as keeping a copy for yourself. |
| 03:05.53 | Thrae | Lunessa: Look at it this way. Say you have a real life friend who records the TV show for you on his VCR, and makes a copy. And say he makes it so all the commercials are gone. Is that illegal? |
| 03:06.56 | Lunessa | That's probably not illegal, under "fair use" in the US - I am not a lawyer. But making that same tape available to anyone would not be legal. |
| 03:07.29 | Thrae | Lunessa: Well, what if he has 10 friends? 100 friends? So giving out copies to all his friends is suddenly illegal? But there's no law against this type of thing. |
| 03:07.52 | Lunessa | Especially if you made that same tape available on some distribution system. |
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| 03:08.30 | Lunessa | At some point there, you're stretching fair use to illegal distribution. |
| 03:08.33 | Thrae | Lunessa: Of course, considering that all the friends have cable, how can that really be considered illegal? You're patronizing the show by watching it, perhaps you'll like it enough to buy mechanise, DVDs, etc. It's to the show's benefit for you to watch it. |
| 03:08.40 | Lunessa | Reductio ad absurdum |
| 03:09.10 | Thrae | Lunessa: Well give me legal proof of that, a court case, etc., and I'll consider it. Until then, I treat it the same as speeding. |
| 03:09.33 | AnduinLothar | living and breathing is illegal btw |
| 03:09.41 | Lunessa | So, since all my friends will eventually rent a movie, or buy merch from it, I can copy any tape I rent and give it out to 100 fiends. |
| 03:10.06 | Lunessa | All I'm saying is I don't do it. I don't think it's entirely right. |
| 03:10.09 | Thrae | If the speed limit is 55, I'll usually go 60-65. I'm stretching the law, since police officers usually look the other way, but technically I'm breaking the law. |
| 03:10.17 | Lunessa | Even if the law hasn't caught up to the technology/. |
| 03:10.19 | Thrae | Lunessa: Do you speed? |
| 03:10.44 | Lunessa | Are we going to get out the "you break one law so break them all argument"? |
| 03:11.51 | Thrae | No, I'm making a point here -- you said this situation, which is not clearly legal or illegal, breaks your rule of ethics. But if you break something that is -clearly- illegal, shouldn't you apply the same rule of ethics? I think a lot of people don't really -understand- the situation, so they side on caution and try to refute arguments to the contrary. |
| 03:13.19 | Thrae | Forget illegality. If you can give me proof that these mass-distributions actually hurt the entertainment industry beyond what steps they have taken to fight it, I'll consider that as a valid argument. |
| 03:13.46 | Lunessa | And while your point is valid, I disagree with you in-principle that recording a television broadcast and redistributing it is somehow entirely free of copyright violations. |
| 03:13.52 | Thrae | Sales for the Music Industry, for example, have gone up 9% since last year. |
| 03:14.18 | Thrae | Probably due to iTunes and such. |
| 03:14.51 | Thrae | Lunessa: If you do work in intellectual properties, then you should know copyright laws are completely screwed up in the United States. |
| 03:15.44 | Thrae | Lunessa: The DCMA, for example, is so poorly worded something can be deemed both legal and illegal, depending on your point of view. The lawmakers just haven't caught up to the technology, and the law won't make a decision until they do (IE, they don't want a repeat of Roe vs Wade). |
| 03:15.48 | Lunessa | I suspect that we can not have a discussion about this - since for us both - our stances are religious dogma. |
| 03:16.44 | Thrae | Sir, I am offended by your claim my arguments are not based on logic and reason. I can give sources for many legal scholars who clearly write that the copyright laws need serious reform. |
| 03:17.20 | Thrae | But if you do not wish to continue, that is fine by me. Just don't call me illogical, please. |
| 03:17.23 | Lunessa | I didn't say that. I said that neither you nor I can change the mind of the other, so debate is point.ess, |
| 03:17.40 | Lunessa | As in the case of arguing religious dogma. |
| 03:18.02 | Thrae | No, if my mind cannot be changed, I would be illogical. Religion is a belief system -- it is illogical at its core. If you did not intend it that way, then I'll take it as a misunderstanding. |
| 03:18.50 | Thrae | I am completely open to other points of view. But you haven't given me any evidence to change my mind. All you have said is that you "believe" its illegal. I can't logically accept that point of view. |
| 03:19.42 | Lunessa | My point is that I am not the copyright holder of said piece of work, and neither is anyone else who uploads it to the 'net. |
| 03:19.54 | Thrae | I happen to have made a great deal of research on this subject, and done several articles on it, one for a class... |
| 03:20.01 | Lunessa | And as such, most likely they do not have the rights of distribution. |
| 03:20.41 | Lunessa | If a torrent of a TV show is in fact legal, then hurrah. |
| 03:20.44 | Thrae | Lunessa: So where's the proof that distribution of copyrighted material is automatically protected (as long as you don't sell it)? |
| 03:21.30 | Thrae | If that's the case, then what Curse-Gaming does is illegal -- it allows people to upload addons without consulting the author, even though addons, like all creative works, fall under automatic copyright protection. |
| 03:22.17 | Lunessa | By that argument, I can make an unlimited number of copies of "The DaVinci Code" novel and as long as I'm giving it away, it's legal. Yet I'm certain case law in the US - if not original law itself - would show otherwise. |
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| 03:22.34 | Thrae | So, you agree what Curse-Gaming is doing is illegal? |
| 03:22.50 | Lunessa | And yet is it not the case that authors of that code are making it freely availble? |
| 03:22.54 | Lunessa | *available. |
| 03:23.02 | Lunessa | Not falling for the bait-and-switch Thrae. |
| 03:23.20 | Thrae | Lunessa: You're the one claiming that creative works fall under automatic intent NOT to distribute. |
| 03:24.24 | Lunessa | Hah. No. I'm claiming that a second party not-authorized, is not allowed to distribute. |
| 03:24.54 | Lunessa | In the case of curse or other addon sites, the authors are specifically allowing those sites to redistribute their work. |
| 03:25.31 | Thrae | Lunessa: Which is -exactly- the case with Curse-Gaming. People can upload addons without consulting the original author. I've seen lots of addons up there where it wasn't distributed by the original author. Lots of Wowace addons, especially. |
| 03:25.56 | Lunessa | Naughty them then. |
| 03:26.13 | Thrae | Lunessa: So what they are doing is just pretty much just as illegal, correct? |
| 03:26.32 | Thrae | Well, I should say, illegal, not "just as illegal", since something is either illegal or it isn't. |
| 03:27.08 | Lunessa | Given that something is released FREELY - as are most - but not all - AddOns - redistribution can't be an issue. |
| 03:27.44 | Lunessa | If a thing is not released freely - then redistribution is an issue. |
| 03:27.56 | Thrae | Lunessa: So you're saying because the author released it on one site, Curse-Gaming is free to release it without consulting the original author? |
| 03:28.13 | Lunessa | And if you are telling me that USA spent lots of money on their show to release it freely - then I would say you're incorrect. |
| 03:28.21 | Guillotine | wait, what? Just got pinged. Something is on curse that wasn't put up by author's permission? |
| 03:28.27 | Guillotine | if so, I'll take it down |
| 03:28.52 | Thrae | Odd, I wonder why all those open-source licenses exist then...most of them have to do with credit and redistribution |
| 03:29.15 | Lunessa | I'm saying that if an author placed no restrictions on it's release, then 2nd parties may go ahead and redistribute. |
| 03:29.22 | Lunessa | For addon code. |
| 03:29.51 | Lunessa | But I would still say that copyright - attaches itself to creative works, and should be respected. |
| 03:29.53 | Guillotine | If an addon was uploaded to Curse without the author's permission, we will take it down right away if its brought to our attention (unless the liscence the code was released under specifically allows such distribution) |
| 03:30.02 | Lunessa | And that means for me, I don't torrent TV shows. |
| 03:30.08 | Guillotine | By default, authors retain full rights to their code |
| 03:30.12 | Guillotine | in the US at least |
| 03:30.18 | Thrae | Lunessa: So shouldn't that apply to TV shows? If there is no explicit restriction on distribution? |
| 03:30.21 | Guillotine | if no other type of copyright is specified |
| 03:30.28 | Lunessa | And silly me, I bought the straw man |
| 03:30.52 | Lunessa | Thrae - You don't read the credits, do you? |
| 03:31.21 | Thrae | Lunessa: By your own statements, wouldn't it be logical to say that since the TV shows are already being mass-distributed, though cable channels, wouldn't that apply to your conclusions about addons? |
| 03:31.34 | Lunessa | No. |
| 03:31.43 | Thrae | Lunessa: Do all your TV shows have at the bottom, "DO NOT DISTRIBUTE THIS OR MAKE COPIES"? |
| 03:32.30 | Thrae | Guillotine: I was using Curse-Gaming as an example. I bet I could find one example if I looked, but that's not really the point of the argument. |
| 03:32.33 | Lunessa | Again, you don't read the credits. |
| 03:33.20 | Thrae | Lunessa: If you claim I am attacking a straw man, then please tell me where my fallacy lies. And please explain "Again, you don't read the credits." |
| 03:33.23 | Lunessa | I don't agree that because it was on cable that somehow abrogates the copyright holder's right to limit further distribution. |
| 03:34.37 | Thrae | Lunessa: This continuation of the argument spawned because I claimed you're not giving me clear arguments. Claims like "You don't read the credits, do you?" aren't very clear, from my point of view. |
| 03:34.38 | Lunessa | At the end of every tv show is a copyright statement. |
| 03:35.14 | Lunessa | Correction: Every TV show produced in the US - I can't speak for other nations. |
| 03:35.36 | Thrae | Right, a basic copyright statement that says such-and-such holds all rights to the show. I don't see how that's any different then the automatic copyright protection (except its given to the producer, not the developer). |
| 03:36.20 | Lunessa | And is not distribution one of those rights? |
| 03:36.40 | Thrae | The crux of US Copyright law is that unless explicitly stated, the same copyright protection goes to the original author, or the owner of said author's intellectual properties. |
| 03:37.10 | Thrae | Lunessa: If you could give me an example, then perhaps I could agree with you. In fact, let me look up to see if I can find an example. |
| 03:38.01 | Lunessa | Lets us be quick about it, or postpone for another place and time since I would like to leave and get dinner and go home for the night (My office closed 15 mins ago.) |
| 03:39.07 | Lunessa | And the hungrier I get the less erudite I become, and my typing skills deteriorate. |
| 03:39.18 | Thrae | Lunessa: Here's one -- Title 17, Chapter 1, Article 106 of copyright law -- "...The owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and authorize any of the following...(1) To reproduce the copyrighted work in copies of phonorecords..." |
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| 03:40.33 | Thrae | Lunessa: Just as I said, the copyright owner has the rights to authorize distribution, and authorize no distribution, but there's no where in here that says copyrighted material automatically has any rights. It's entirely up to the author to enforce (one of the reasons copyright law is so screwed up). |
| 03:40.42 | Thrae | s/author/copyright holder/ |
| 03:40.51 | iZen | anyone running an unbuntu machine with wow installed through wine? |
| 03:41.00 | Thrae | Damn you purl |
| 03:41.17 | Lunessa | So basically you're saying ... unless I get a cease and desist, I can do as I choose. |
| 03:41.20 | Thrae | Lunessa: And sorry for going on -- I was in the middle of writing that when you said you had to go ;) |
| 03:41.44 | Thrae | Lunessa: Yes -- that is copyright law, until proven otherwise in court. And it hasn't yet. It's screwed up, and perhaps you can deam it unethical, but that's the law. |
| 03:42.20 | Lunessa | *shrug* If that stance works for you, feel free. It doesn't for me, and as a result, I'll go on missing shows that air while I am at work until I deem their value high enough to get DVR. :P |
| 03:42.35 | Lunessa | And on that note, goodnight sir. |
| 03:43.28 | Thrae | Legorol: By the way, I can teach you how to build your own HTPC (Home Theather PC). It's 100% legal, you use a PVR card to record the shows ;) |
| 03:43.29 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.31 | TS|Skrom | i r evil |
| 03:43.44 | Thrae | If you have an old computer laying around, it's a hell of a lot cheaper. |
| 03:43.54 | Thrae | Need 500Mhz or higher |
| 03:44.08 | TS|Skrom | I'd like to know too! |
| 03:44.37 | Thrae | TS|Skrom: Start with http://www.team-mediaportal.com/ |
| 03:44.45 | Thrae | If you don't know Linux |
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| 04:25.38 | Kyahx | LF druid / warrior to test something |
| 04:27.07 | Kyahx | meh, n/am :P |
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| 04:55.35 | KarlThePagan | AnduinLothar, mights are in the mail |
| 05:00.21 | Nom- | LOL |
| 05:00.33 | Nom- | Best line ever (with regards to paladins tanking vs warriors tanking) |
| 05:00.34 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.35 | Nom- | That'll learn em. |
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| 05:21.13 | Nom- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Deadlyblonde <-- wtb her gear |
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| 05:24.48 | Nom- | almost 1000 spell damage...INSANE dps |
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| 05:45.12 | Gngsk | meh, that's not even season 2 gear :P |
| 05:45.41 | Gngsk | can't go wrong with the six demon bag though |
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| 06:41.19 | Nom- | That movie was nuts...with a lucky run of crits she was throwing 7k+ in bout 3 seconds |
| 06:42.15 | Nom- | Combo deaths like Shock + Judgement + Hammer |
| 06:42.35 | Nom- | Plus with 1000 dmg, that's pretty good heals too |
| 06:42.50 | Nom- | I only have 1600 +heals fully decked in kara epics |
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| 06:49.07 | Nom- | I think I might go shockadin spec today and just see what gear i can get :P |
| 06:49.11 | Nom- | That looks a blast :) |
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| 07:20.21 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:20.39 | Nom- | i'm waiting for the comments about me tanking Netherspite in full holy spec wearing healing gear :P |
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| 07:28.35 | Nom- | bleh wow-loot.com doesn't have a shockadin build item :( |
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| 08:06.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha |
| 08:06.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/05/gnome-corpse-advertisement-in-wow-by-gold-farmers/ |
| 08:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure that's old, but still awesome |
| 08:06.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't see anything in the log about it |
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| 08:16.49 | Tem | so THAT's what that guy was doing |
| 08:17.09 | Tem | there was part of an M spelt out in corpses in IF last week |
| 08:17.13 | Tem | we had no idea why |
| 08:17.17 | Tem | or how the guy had done it |
| 08:18.31 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:36.45 | deltron | lol |
| 08:40.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | teleport hacks are pretty easy to do, from what i hear |
| 08:40.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | also incredibly easy to catch |
| 08:41.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | the server monitors for faster than possible travel and teleporting |
| 08:42.02 | Nom- | Yeah that's why you get booted when you go up the elevator in Undercity |
| 08:42.23 | Nom- | but |
| 08:42.27 | Nom- | here's the trick |
| 08:42.40 | Nom- | You usually die when you log in again because you've got no platform under you :P |
| 08:42.58 | Nom- | That's why it works |
| 08:43.04 | Nom- | They just log in again after getting booted and die |
| 08:44.50 | zenzelezz | unrelated to your discussion, but I always did find it amusing when people died on the Undercity elevators |
| 08:45.17 | Wobin_ | hehe I've done that at times |
| 08:45.18 | Wobin_ | due to latency |
| 08:45.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out the aldor elevator in shatt |
| 08:45.46 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 08:45.47 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:45.52 | Nom- | that's why you go scryers |
| 08:45.53 | Wobin_ | nah, the worst of the lot is Telredor |
| 08:46.00 | Nom- | You can do a running jump of those and survive it |
| 08:46.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just leap off and flight form just befor ehitting the ground |
| 08:46.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes i miss |
| 08:46.26 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 08:46.28 | Nom- | haha |
| 08:46.37 | Wobin_ | The art of flying: Throwing yourself at the ground and missing. |
| 08:47.04 | zenzelezz | I've only died once on the Aldor place; and that was not strictly the elevator... |
| 08:47.18 | zenzelezz | managed to run off *besides* the elevator |
| 08:47.38 | zenzelezz | don't think I ever died on the Undercity elevator, although I died several times from jumping too soon off the zeppelin |
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| 09:07.13 | Nom- | Can't wait to get home and try my shockadin build ^_^ |
| 09:08.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | use the ptr |
| 09:08.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 09:09.14 | zenzelezz | "Please grow up and stop this drama." -- <3 Vaneras |
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| 09:12.09 | Nom- | Nah, I don't bother playing the PTR unless there's a really substantial change to my class coming in :) |
| 09:12.21 | Nom- | Although I gave the BT test a whirl |
| 09:12.24 | Nom- | That was good fun :P |
| 09:12.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use it for spec testing |
| 09:13.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | every content patch or so i respec 10-12 times |
| 09:13.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | always end up with the same one |
| 09:13.36 | Nom- | haha |
| 09:13.49 | Nom- | Nah I actually want to play my shockadin seriously |
| 09:13.53 | Nom- | Going to arena for the first time |
| 09:14.13 | Nom- | Well, not quite first, but first in a team |
| 09:14.15 | zenzelezz | enlighten this nub, what spec is a "shockadin"? |
| 09:14.28 | Nom- | 40 Holy / 21 Retribution |
| 09:14.38 | Nom- | Basically Holy DPS |
| 09:14.46 | zenzelezz | sounds fun |
| 09:14.54 | Nom- | Looks like it |
| 09:15.08 | Nom- | Need lots of spell damage to make it work though |
| 09:15.16 | Nom- | 600+ they come into their own apparently |
| 09:15.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | paladins are pretty much raid bosses in arena |
| 09:15.54 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 09:16.20 | Nom- | Going to form a 3v3 team with some guildies tonight |
| 09:16.33 | Nom- | Fury Warrior/Shockadin/Ele Shaman |
| 09:16.36 | Nom- | Should be interesting |
| 09:17.21 | zenzelezz | I'm mildly tempted to bring my prot warrior to BGs just to see what people would do (probably just pwn me) |
| 09:21.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah. |
| 09:21.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've given up on arenas on my druid |
| 09:21.38 | Nom- | well they dun have the dps |
| 09:22.03 | Nom- | I once heard someone describe a prot warrior as a mosquito |
| 09:22.30 | Nom- | Really irritating if you ignore it long enough |
| 09:22.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | a mosquito in a flight recorder case |
| 09:22.38 | Nom- | But it's not going to kill you |
| 09:37.20 | Wobin_ | Mr_Rabies: go boomkin =) |
| 09:37.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've tried it |
| 09:37.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | not my cup of tea |
| 09:38.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i see it being good in bgs, but not arenas unless you've got some serious cover |
| 09:39.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're about the highest profile thing in the game other than maybe a warrior in BT epics dual wielding the blades of azzinoth |
| 09:43.45 | Thelyna | most times our moonkin gets left alone |
| 09:44.03 | Thelyna | but then again we also have a shadow priest, resto shammy and elemental shammy on the team |
| 09:49.14 | foxlit | Tbh, a properly geared boomkin isn't such a bad target to focus enemy fire on |
| 09:50.44 | foxlit | Have 50% mitigation in some bizzare mix of pve tier 4,5 and various cloth pieces; I'd imagine you could reach a pretty darn high percentage with arena gear. |
| 09:56.42 | Tem | Mr_Rabies, resto druid is my worst nightmare in arena |
| 09:56.54 | Tem | Nom-, pallies that don't heal are a waste of space in arena |
| 09:56.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's your team made of, tem? |
| 09:57.07 | Tem | Mr_Rabies, mage rogue |
| 09:57.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have two counterspells mang :o |
| 09:57.16 | Tem | and sometimes mage pally |
| 09:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | you should be able to lock him down hard |
| 09:57.30 | nevcairiel | well sheep whatever is not the druid and just kill the druid |
| 09:57.31 | Tem | resto druids don't cast spells that I can counter |
| 09:57.32 | nevcairiel | shouldnt be hard |
| 09:57.47 | Tem | it's doable with the rogue |
| 09:57.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | they only cast instant casts? |
| 09:57.55 | Tem | aye |
| 09:57.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | if so you should be able to burn them down FAST |
| 09:58.00 | Tem | nope |
| 09:58.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | you need more dps then |
| 09:58.13 | Tem | LoS |
| 09:58.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | because just dots aren't reliable at all |
| 09:58.18 | Tem | + NS + SM |
| 09:58.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | ns is once every 3 mins |
| 09:58.31 | Tem | it's the oh shit button |
| 09:58.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and sm's not that hard of a hit |
| 09:58.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's nice |
| 09:59.01 | Tem | he's got enough hots to heal through all of my damage while staying at basically full mana the whole time |
| 09:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not anything i can't burn down easily on my druig |
| 09:59.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid* |
| 09:59.12 | Tem | provided he runs like a pansy when in any actual danger |
| 09:59.18 | Tem | which I just can't stop |
| 09:59.29 | Tem | esp in blade's edge |
| 09:59.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't even have counterspell and i can totally lock one down |
| 09:59.36 | Tem | (I hate that fucking place) |
| 09:59.36 | nevcairiel | except MS warriors, no single damage dealer can kill me until i get oom |
| 09:59.45 | nevcairiel | and i am a resto druid |
| 09:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | or kidneyshot/gouge |
| 09:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | stuns destroy druids |
| 09:59.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially restos |
| 09:59.56 | foxlit | Oh, I dunno. |
| 10:00.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | since they have less armor than most priests |
| 10:00.05 | foxlit | Resto druids tend to overheal on self |
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| 10:00.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean hell |
| 10:00.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can stunlock PALADINS |
| 10:00.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | a resto druid is absolute free hk for me |
| 10:01.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless he has some type of support, which is pretty easily locked down with my own support |
| 10:01.09 | nevcairiel | too bad i cant proof you wrong |
| 10:01.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could hop on the ptr :p |
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| 10:01.56 | nevcairiel | arent you US? |
| 10:02.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 10:02.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're not, darn |
| 10:02.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 10:03.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never had any problems absolutely destroying restos |
| 10:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | as in the only heals they get off are the instacast ones they had up before i stunlock them |
| 10:03.20 | nevcairiel | i prolly wouldnt win a duell, since i dont do any damage. but i live long enough for my team partner to do the other work |
| 10:03.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, typically the partner's locked down, especially in 2v2 |
| 10:04.18 | nevcairiel | every CC has DR at some point .. :) |
| 10:04.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | because you can't dispel anyone elses's CC except curse of exhaustion, crippling posion, and blind |
| 10:04.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | well yeah but you die much more quickly than the 12 seconds the CC lasts |
| 10:05.18 | nevcairiel | unless the dps is a mortal strike warrior, i wont die. stupid MS reduces healing too much :/ |
| 10:05.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't matter if you cant CAST the heals :P |
| 10:06.01 | foxlit | You can ALWAYS cast the heals, tbh |
| 10:06.05 | foxlit | That's what the trinket is for |
| 10:06.18 | foxlit | break -> NS -> win |
| 10:06.26 | nevcairiel | you would be surprised how much HoTs heal on a well geared resto :P |
| 10:06.28 | TC-Holding | lol, one of the guys in my guild is an aussy pastrey chef |
| 10:07.38 | nevcairiel | i had a duell with a feral from my guild last week or so |
| 10:07.51 | nevcairiel | well i lost eventually, but due to the fact that i tried to do dmg and went oom. |
| 10:07.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'd be surprised how rare people trinket on me |
| 10:08.19 | foxlit | Just as often as they cast barkskin? |
| 10:08.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | only thing i see them trinket out of is cyclone because apparently it's more annoying than other CC because they can't use a crutch to dispel it |
| 10:08.42 | nevcairiel | hell i got a gladiator title and arena nether drake, i know how to pvp :P |
| 10:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | so did half the EU :p |
| 10:09.14 | nevcairiel | it was stripped of most of them again tho :p |
| 10:09.17 | nevcairiel | i still have mine ;) |
| 10:09.24 | foxlit | I don't think titles were :) |
| 10:09.34 | nevcairiel | hm dunno |
| 10:09.40 | nevcairiel | but the drakes definately |
| 10:09.47 | foxlit | I got an extra one when they hotfixed drakes |
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| 10:11.58 | nevcairiel | man can someone fix that stupid vertex issue when tabbing in and out of the game? |
| 10:12.06 | nevcairiel | i hate doing gxreload all the time :P |
| 10:12.25 | nevcairiel | gxrestart, even |
| 10:12.40 | zenzelezz | is gxrestart faster than reloadui? |
| 10:12.49 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:12.52 | nevcairiel | its like 1s |
| 10:12.57 | nevcairiel | only restarts the renderer |
| 10:13.30 | foxlit | It's RestartGx(); anyway! |
| 10:13.47 | nevcairiel | its /console gxrestart |
| 10:13.48 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:14.02 | foxlit | Lies, /run RestartGx(); |
| 10:14.15 | foxlit | (yes, both are valid :P) |
| 10:16.19 | foxlit | Run in windowed mode, tbh :) |
| 10:18.17 | zenzelezz | is this "vertex issue" the incorrectly colored pixels along the right side of the screen? |
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| 10:19.24 | foxlit | Anyone know what the new BC base armor function is? |
| 10:19.49 | foxlit | (given ilvl and armor type, get the armor value the item would recieve by default) |
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| 10:22.21 | Wobin_ | #char us Argent Dawn Persecution |
| 10:22.33 | Wobin_ | #char us Argent Dawn, Persecution |
| 10:22.33 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:22.47 | Wobin_ | =\ |
| 10:22.50 | Wobin_ | #char |
| 10:23.03 | foxlit | Odd, really |
| 10:23.03 | foxlit | sec |
| 10:23.11 | zenzelezz | #char EU Silvermoon Zenzio |
| 10:23.12 | ThraeBot | zenzelezz: Zenzio, Level 70 Human Warrior (11/0/50). 12494 HP; 259 Str; 14472 Armour; 708 AP; +5.82% melee crit. |
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| 10:23.17 | foxlit | #char us Argent Dawn Persecution |
| 10:23.17 | Foxbot | foxlit: Persecution, Level 70 Mage (40/0/21). 8433 HP; 8756 Mana; +8.4% spell hit; +214 spell crit rating; 1009 +frost. |
| 10:23.32 | Thelyna | #char us Malygos Thelyna |
| 10:23.34 | ThraeBot | Thelyna: Thelyna, Level 70 Human Paladin (42/19/0). 7397 HP; 9228 Mana; 437 Int; 14172 Armour; 115 mp5; +3.93% melee crit; +111 spell crit rating; 152 +spell dmg; 1774 +heal. |
| 10:23.34 | Foxbot | Thelyna: Thelyna, Level 70 Paladin (42/19/0). 7397 HP; 9228 Mana; 126 Str; 14172 Armor; 115 mp5; +111 spell crit rating; 1774 +heal. |
| 10:23.48 | Thelyna | double reply woot woot |
| 10:23.56 | Thelyna | only 115 mp5? hmm |
| 10:24.05 | nevcairiel | #char eu Antonidas Nevcairiel |
| 10:24.06 | Foxbot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Druid (1/0/60). 7644 HP; 8645 Mana; 325 Spi; 162 mp5; 1588 +heal. |
| 10:24.07 | ThraeBot | nevcairiel: Nevcairiel, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/0/60). 7644 HP; 8645 Mana; 437 Int; 325 Spi; 2590 Armour; 162 mp5; +4.56% melee crit; 1588 +heal. |
| 10:24.19 | zenzelezz | 115 mp5? My hunter has more than that o_O |
| 10:24.22 | foxlit | #leave #wowi-lounge |
| 10:24.23 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Foxbot (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 10:24.25 | nevcairiel | something is off with the stats |
| 10:24.38 | foxlit | It's gear-based mp5 |
| 10:24.38 | Wobin_ | #char us Argent Dawn Persecution |
| 10:24.40 | foxlit | Not your spirit regen |
| 10:24.52 | zenzelezz | #char EU Silvermoon Frykt |
| 10:24.52 | Thelyna | zen: my mp5 comes out of a potion :p |
| 10:24.54 | ThraeBot | zenzelezz: Frykt, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 6434 HP; 5338 Mana; 351 Agi; 4184 Armour; 79 mp5; 1299 AP; 1211 RAP; +7.93% melee crit; +13.65% ranged crit. |
| 10:24.59 | Wobin_ | #char us Argent Dawn tobermory |
| 10:24.59 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 10:24.59 | foxlit | Wobin_: I think you're crashing thraebot :) |
| 10:25.09 | Wobin_ | why so hard? =) |
| 10:25.10 | foxlit | Or maybe it's ignoring you :) |
| 10:25.16 | Wobin_ | =( |
| 10:25.19 | foxlit | #char us Argent Dawn tobermory |
| 10:25.32 | foxlit | Nah, definitely crashing |
| 10:25.38 | Wobin_ | what about foxbot? |
| 10:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | #char EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 10:25.45 | foxlit | Slightly different code |
| 10:25.45 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/8/53). 7457 HP; 5118 Mana; 434 Str; 248 Agi; 7232 Armour; 7 mp5; 1278 AP; +21.66% melee crit; 22 +spell dmg/heal; +43 holy dmg (65). |
| 10:25.52 | sag_ich_nicht | sounds about right |
| 10:25.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 10:25.57 | Wobin_ | Is it two word realms? |
| 10:26.05 | foxlit | Nah, that should be fine |
| 10:26.09 | Wobin_ | #char us suramar gallowglass |
| 10:26.10 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:26.17 | foxlit | It's probably a specific stats transform that appears on your characters but not on others' |
| 10:26.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Foxbot (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 10:26.30 | Wobin_ | #char us surumar gallowglass |
| 10:26.30 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:26.31 | Foxbot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:26.33 | Wobin_ | #char us suramar gallowglass |
| 10:26.34 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:26.34 | Foxbot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | #char US Argent%20Dawn Persecution |
| 10:26.38 | Foxbot | sag_ich_nicht: Persecution, Level 70 Mage (40/0/21). 8433 HP; 8756 Mana; +8.4% spell hit; +214 spell crit rating; 1009 +frost. |
| 10:26.40 | Wobin_ | I wonder what happened to gallowglass |
| 10:26.41 | Wobin_ | aha |
| 10:26.44 | sag_ich_nicht | magix. |
| 10:26.44 | Wobin_ | Thanks sag |
| 10:26.54 | foxlit | not really |
| 10:26.56 | foxlit | Watch |
| 10:26.59 | foxlit | #char US Argent Dawn Persecution |
| 10:26.59 | Foxbot | foxlit: Persecution, Level 70 Mage (40/0/21). 8433 HP; 8756 Mana; +8.4% spell hit; +214 spell crit rating; 1009 +frost. |
| 10:27.02 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:27.25 | Wobin_ | do we have to say it gently or something? =) |
| 10:27.45 | foxlit | Just tell Thrae to look into it :) |
| 10:27.59 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck, i have 21.66% melee crit all of suddent... just because of that new girdle :O |
| 10:28.29 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn Tobermory |
| 10:28.31 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Tobermory, Level 66 Rogue (16/41/0). 5487 HP; 129 Str; 342 Agi; 18.2% dodge; 905 AP. |
| 10:28.55 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn Copis |
| 10:28.56 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Copis, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/50/11). 10974 HP; 4895 Mana; 269 Agi; 5453 Armour; +1.48% melee crit; 20 +spell dmg/heal; +25 all resists (+10 nature). |
| 10:28.57 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Copis, Level 70 Druid (0/50/11). 10974 HP; 4895 Mana; 199 Str; 269 Agi; 5453 Armor; +240 defense; 26.06% dodge. |
| 10:29.12 | Thunder_Child | #char US Draenor Prismatic |
| 10:29.13 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Prismatic, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (34/27/0). 7711 HP; 10131 Mana; 458 Int; 254 Spi; 1087 Armour; 30 mp5; +2.85% spell hit; +168 spell crit rating; 660 +spell dmg/heal. |
| 10:29.14 | Foxbot | Thunder_Child: Prismatic, Level 70 Priest (34/27/0). 7711 HP; 10131 Mana; +2.85% spell hit; +168 spell crit rating; 660 +dmg. |
| 10:29.40 | foxlit | As for gallowglass: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/search.xml?searchQuery=gallowglass&searchType=items |
| 10:29.56 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn geldrene |
| 10:29.58 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Geldrene, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (19/42/0). 8051 HP; 6988 Mana; 450 Agi; 259 Int; 5256 Armour; 27 mp5; 1569 AP; 1962 RAP; +13.93% melee crit; +18.93% ranged crit. |
| 10:29.58 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Geldrene, Level 70 Hunter (19/42/0). 8051 HP; 6988 Mana; 450 Agi; 5256 Armor; 1569 AP; 1962 RAP. |
| 10:30.54 | Wobin_ | oh man |
| 10:30.59 | Wobin_ | you mean my character got deleted? =\ |
| 10:31.10 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn kayonne |
| 10:31.11 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Kayonne, Level 61 Mage (0/0/52). 2806 HP; 6706 Mana; +123 spell crit rating; 260 +dmg. |
| 10:31.14 | foxlit | I liked the wrong thing, but basically I can't find it in the armory |
| 10:31.17 | Thunder_Child | #char US Draenor Blorb |
| 10:31.18 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Blorb, Level 7 Draenei Warrior (0/0/0). 164 HP; 35 Str; 22 Int; 24 Spi; 270 Armour; 71 AP; +4.33% melee crit. |
| 10:31.18 | Foxbot | Thunder_Child: Blorb, Level 7 Warrior (0/0/0). 164 HP. |
| 10:31.28 | Thunder_Child | fox, you fail |
| 10:31.34 | Thunder_Child | s/fox/foxbot/ |
| 10:32.21 | foxlit | Nothing interesting about level 7 nubsticks :) |
| 10:32.51 | Thunder_Child | your right...but nor is there anything interesting about failing bots :) |
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| 10:33.12 | Thunder_Child | #char US Draenor Holytemplar |
| 10:33.14 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Holytemplar, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/49/12). 12307 HP; 4773 Mana; 226 Str; 16506 Armour; 642 AP; +7.05% melee crit; 224 +spell dmg/heal. |
| 10:33.14 | Foxbot | Thunder_Child: Holytemplar, Level 70 Paladin (0/49/12). 12307 HP; 4773 Mana; 226 Str; 113 Agi; 16506 Armor; +284 defense; 18.33% dodge; 17.96% block; 224 +dmg. |
| 10:33.39 | foxlit | One confused paladin :P |
| 10:33.44 | Thunder_Child | hardly |
| 10:34.21 | Thunder_Child | you guys are returning diff info |
| 10:34.23 | foxlit | All offensive/healing stats are rather minimal :) |
| 10:34.29 | Wobin_ | #char us suramar gallowglass |
| 10:34.30 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:34.30 | Foxbot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 10:34.30 | Thunder_Child | he is a tankadin |
| 10:34.38 | Thunder_Child | MT for the guild |
| 10:34.42 | foxlit | loltankadin! |
| 10:35.00 | Thunder_Child | tanks better than any equivilently equiped war |
| 10:35.31 | Thunder_Child | why?..because he can hold aggro |
| 10:35.36 | Wobin_ | weird |
| 10:35.41 | Wobin_ | I just logged Gallowglass in and out |
| 10:35.44 | Wobin_ | but nothing on armoury |
| 10:35.49 | Thunder_Child | is it lower than 10? |
| 10:35.53 | Thunder_Child | lvl 10* |
| 10:36.03 | foxlit | Well, Wobin_, even if it showed up, it wouldn't help you :) |
| 10:36.21 | Wobin_ | no he's about 40ish |
| 10:36.22 | Thunder_Child | the bots have cashed data? |
| 10:36.33 | foxlit | If thrae is using my midlayer code, it caches armory interactions |
| 10:36.57 | Wobin_ | well, no, I meant wow's armory |
| 10:37.07 | foxlit | No, armory should sync almost immediately |
| 10:37.24 | sag_ich_nicht | #char EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 10:37.24 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/8/53). 7457 HP; 5118 Mana; 434 Str; 248 Agi; 7232 Armour; 7 mp5; 1278 AP; +21.66% melee crit; 22 +spell dmg/heal; +43 holy dmg (65). (11m old) |
| 10:37.24 | Foxbot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Paladin (0/8/53). 7457 HP; 5118 Mana; 434 Str; 248 Agi; 7232 Armor; 1278 AP. |
| 10:37.35 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 10:40.34 | Tem | oh lame |
| 10:40.44 | Tem | I'm going to be 151 rep short of exalted |
| 10:41.33 | foxlit | I haven't had one for two weeks! |
| 10:41.38 | Tem | it's bee more than a week since I've seen one |
| 10:41.44 | Tem | and I've been doing the quest on 2 characters |
| 10:42.56 | zenzelezz | I've yet to manage that quest, reached the second phase, but no further o_O |
| 10:44.35 | Tem | it's my favorite thing in game atm |
| 10:45.04 | Tem | and really, once you learn the trick to each phase, it's quite easy |
| 10:45.07 | Tem | and VERY fun |
| 10:45.48 | zenzelezz | do you get anything from the end demon? |
| 10:45.57 | Tem | a boe blue or epic |
| 10:46.04 | Tem | that sells hella easy on the AH |
| 10:46.09 | zenzelezz | nice :) |
| 10:46.13 | Tem | and the self-satisfaction of having beaten him |
| 10:46.21 | Tem | I wish he gave rep |
| 10:46.28 | Tem | doesn't need to give much |
| 10:46.34 | Tem | just like... 151 or so |
| 10:46.48 | zenzelezz | 151? o_O |
| 10:47.38 | Tem | in 2 days, I'm going to be 151 rep short of exalted |
| 10:48.03 | Tem | so I'll have to wait another day to do a single daily to finish getting there |
| 10:48.53 | Thelyna | why not just kill some stuff? gives rep too |
| 10:49.16 | zenzelezz | with Ogri'la? |
| 10:49.17 | Tem | nope |
| 10:49.40 | foxlit | What do you want exalted for, anyway? |
| 10:49.43 | Tem | the only way to get rep with ogri'la are the dailies and the few one time quests |
| 10:49.46 | foxlit | The new faction rewards are made of fail :( |
| 10:49.51 | Tem | true |
| 10:49.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want the ogrila trinket |
| 10:50.01 | Tem | but I'm a non-raider since my guild split into 3 |
| 10:50.22 | Tem | so the offhand is better than anything I can get from instances |
| 10:50.29 | Tem | until I get my staff |
| 10:50.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32654 |
| 10:50.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | is 7 dps for ferals |
| 10:50.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | base dps, that is |
| 10:51.04 | foxlit | Isn't the heroic offhand better? |
| 10:51.10 | Tem | not in pvp |
| 10:51.21 | foxlit | Isn't the pvp offhand better? |
| 10:51.24 | Tem | aye |
| 10:51.27 | Tem | well |
| 10:51.27 | Tem | no |
| 10:51.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | equivalent to 98 ap |
| 10:51.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 10:51.36 | Tem | the pvp offhand is made of fail |
| 10:51.50 | Tem | and it'll be a long time before I can spare the points for it |
| 10:52.01 | foxlit | Really? Endgame isn't bad :) |
| 10:52.18 | Tem | and since the poeple I run instances with aren't even keyed for heroic sethekk, it'll be a while before I get my staff so I want the upgraded offhand |
| 10:52.20 | foxlit | Same danage stats, bonus sta resilience and int :) |
| 10:52.33 | Tem | you mean the 70 GM gear? |
| 10:52.39 | foxlit | 70 arena gear |
| 10:52.43 | Tem | I can't afford that |
| 10:52.54 | Tem | I need upgrades elsewhere much more |
| 10:53.02 | foxlit | battletome is lose, true |
| 10:53.30 | foxlit | arena mainhand = best spelldamage upgrade ever |
| 10:53.37 | Tem | I want the arena staff |
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| 10:53.49 | foxlit | Why? :) |
| 10:53.52 | Tem | all the available offhands are underwhelming |
| 10:53.56 | Tem | ALL of them |
| 10:54.34 | Tem | anyway, it'll be a long time before I get that staff |
| 10:54.37 | Tem | (if ever) |
| 10:54.46 | foxlit | Oh, dunno |
| 10:54.59 | foxlit | spellblade+nightbane/fanthomstone is appealing |
| 10:55.09 | Tem | <-- non raider |
| 10:55.28 | Tem | the arena mainhand doesn't have all that much stam either, iirc |
| 10:55.45 | Tem | (I must admit that it's been a while since I looked at it) |
| 10:55.56 | foxlit | Nah, you're correct, it doesn't |
| 10:56.12 | foxlit | The whole combo is about 80hp from Staff of Infinite Mysteries |
| 10:56.19 | foxlit | down, that is |
| 10:56.53 | foxlit | But damage is equivalent to a permament supreme power flask, so I'm willing to deal with the HP loss |
| 10:57.42 | Tem | heh |
| 10:58.04 | Tem | infinite mysteries is hotness |
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| 10:59.16 | foxlit | Want more spellcrit |
| 11:00.41 | Tem | the thing that's depressing me is that I'm hardpressed to upgrade the damage stats on this damn torn-heart shoulders |
| 11:00.50 | Tem | s/this/these/ |
| 11:01.16 | foxlit | Nature's grace should stack |
| 11:01.17 | Tem | basically, t4 with the right gems would be better, but I just don't have access to that |
| 11:01.35 | foxlit | < T5 shoulders |
| 11:01.50 | Tem | void reaver is a pushover, I know |
| 11:02.06 | Tem | but again, I just don't have access |
| 11:02.18 | foxlit | pug him :) |
| 11:02.25 | foxlit | Would be a slap in the raiders' faces |
| 11:02.31 | Tem | lol |
| 11:02.35 | Tem | and then what? |
| 11:02.43 | Tem | ninja the token? |
| 11:02.56 | foxlit | Agree on that beforehand |
| 11:02.57 | Tem | plus I'd never find puggers with acceptable gear |
| 11:03.07 | zenzelezz | /5 LF24 more for Void Reaver (PS: 1 shoulder reserved) |
| 11:03.20 | Tem | lol |
| 11:03.37 | Tem | Healers and Tank badly needed! |
| 11:03.41 | Tem | PST |
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| 11:04.13 | Tem | S2 shoulders could be better, but those gem slots are reserved for stam gems |
| 11:04.21 | zenzelezz | good luck getting a full group of puggers to run from the orbs |
| 11:04.34 | Tem | there's no way they could be that dumb |
| 11:04.45 | Tem | they move so slow I can walk away |
| 11:05.45 | Wobin_ | oh man |
| 11:05.51 | Wobin_ | honoured kurenai war quiver |
| 11:05.59 | foxlit | orbs are hell :) |
| 11:06.02 | Wobin_ | I'll be buying that when I get to that point =) |
| 11:06.16 | foxlit | Problem isn't that you can't move away from your own orbs, it's that you can easily run into someone else's |
| 11:06.18 | zenzelezz | Wobin_: it's pwn |
| 11:06.55 | zenzelezz | and you hardly even have to work for the rep |
| 11:07.59 | Wobin_ | yeah =) |
| 11:09.05 | Tem | you kinda get the rep for free |
| 11:09.11 | Tem | without trying, I have revered with them |
| 11:09.15 | zenzelezz | exactly |
| 11:09.18 | Tem | and I don't even want any of their crap |
| 11:09.24 | Wobin_ | I like the spacegoat |
| 11:09.32 | Tem | (those mounts are the ugliest things I've ever seen) |
| 11:09.52 | Tem | on the other hand, the raven mount is the coolest looking land mount in game |
| 11:10.10 | Tem | any druids want to transfer to my server to be my sethekk halls bitch? |
| 11:10.17 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 11:10.21 | Tem | I'll buy you your flight form |
| 11:14.40 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn dalek |
| 11:14.41 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Dalek, Level 63 Hunter (11/43/0). 6251 HP; 3094 Mana; 130 Str; 354 Agi; 803 AP; 920 RAP. |
| 11:14.42 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Dalek, Level 63 Night Elf Hunter (11/43/0). 6251 HP; 3094 Mana; 354 Agi; 3513 Armour; 803 AP; 920 RAP; +7.75% melee crit; +8.75% ranged crit. |
| 11:14.51 | Wobin_ | hm MM |
| 11:15.00 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn shalfurne |
| 11:15.02 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Shalfurne, Level 65 Hunter (46/7/3). 5247 HP; 3577 Mana; 332 Agi; 1040 AP; 976 RAP. |
| 11:15.02 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Shalfurne, Level 65 Night Elf Hunter (46/7/3). 5247 HP; 3577 Mana; 332 Agi; 3399 Armour; 22 mp5; 1040 AP; 976 RAP; +9.72% melee crit; +15.8% ranged crit. |
| 11:15.55 | Wobin_ | hm, I expected more ranged crit from a MM |
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| 11:50.49 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn, Kerlihn |
| 11:50.50 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 11:50.51 | Foxbot | Wobin_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 11:50.56 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn Kerlihn |
| 11:50.57 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Kerlihn, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (0/12/49). 7221 HP; 8100 Mana; 384 Int; 245 Spi; 1432 Armour; 6 mp5; +119 spell crit rating; 438 +spell dmg/heal; +33 all resists (+10 nature). |
| 11:50.57 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Kerlihn, Level 70 Priest (0/12/49). 7221 HP; 8100 Mana; +119 spell crit rating; 438 +dmg. |
| 11:51.02 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn Rikitikitavi |
| 11:51.02 | ThraeBot | Throttling expires in 9 seconds, Wobin_. |
| 11:51.03 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Rikitikitavi, Level 70 Priest (14/0/47). 5391 HP; 7425 Mana; +269 spell crit rating; 436 +dmg. |
| 11:51.17 | Wobin_ | #char US Argent Dawn Rikitikitavi |
| 11:51.18 | Foxbot | Wobin_: Rikitikitavi, Level 70 Priest (14/0/47). 5391 HP; 7425 Mana; +269 spell crit rating; 436 +dmg. |
| 11:51.18 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Rikitikitavi, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/0/47). 5391 HP; 7425 Mana; 339 Int; 874 Armour; 28 mp5; +269 spell crit rating; 436 +spell dmg/heal. |
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| 11:53.07 | GnancyWK | #char US Magtheridon Gnancy |
| 11:53.09 | Foxbot | GnancyWK: Gnancy, Level 70 Warlock (41/0/20). 5550 HP; 6355 Mana; +76 spell crit rating; 387 +shadow. |
| 11:53.09 | ThraeBot | GnancyWK: Gnancy, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (41/0/20). 5550 HP; 6355 Mana; 268 Int; 486 Armour; +1.43% spell hit; +76 spell crit rating; 254 +spell dmg/heal; +57 frost dmg (311); +133 shadow dmg (387). |
| 11:53.25 | GnancyWK | haha neat |
| 11:53.27 | Wobin_ | huh, I was somewhat under the impression that Gnancy was a mage =) |
| 11:53.32 | GnancyWK | pfft |
| 11:53.46 | subbawt | it's so tempting to type in my name for some reason |
| 11:53.49 | subbawt | but i will resist! |
| 11:54.09 | nevcairiel | no you wont |
| 11:54.10 | JoshBork2 | wtf was that priest doing? 269 spell crit? |
| 11:54.16 | JoshBork2 | #char US Stormreaver Dagh |
| 11:54.18 | ThraeBot | JoshBork2: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/2/45). 6361 HP; 7860 Mana; 368 Int; 1208 Armour; 24 mp5; +4.36% spell hit; +94 spell crit rating; 694 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (873); +179 shadow dmg (873). |
| 11:54.18 | Foxbot | JoshBork2: Dagh, Level 70 Priest (14/2/45). 6361 HP; 7860 Mana; +4.36% spell hit; +94 spell crit rating; 873 +frost. |
| 11:54.21 | subbawt | smiting maybe :P |
| 11:54.28 | nevcairiel | a priest with frost dmg oO |
| 11:54.32 | nevcairiel | talk about crazy :P |
| 11:54.36 | subbawt | err nope he's 14/0/47 |
| 11:54.40 | JoshBork2 | frozen shadoweave n00blet :P |
| 11:54.55 | nevcairiel | oh only read Foxbot |
| 11:55.00 | nevcairiel | he only says +frost |
| 11:55.30 | subbawt | apparently greens of the invoker, JoshBork2 :P |
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| 11:55.37 | JoshBork2 | psp |
| 11:55.40 | JoshBork2 | lol |
| 11:55.42 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 12:49.18 | Wobin_ | hurrah |
| 12:49.24 | Wobin_ | finally attuned =P |
| 12:49.30 | zenzelezz | to..? |
| 12:49.54 | Lopeppeppy | Got through Black More-Ass, did ya? |
| 12:50.35 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 12:50.36 | Wobin_ | kara =) |
| 12:50.53 | Wobin_ | two shadows, a enh shammy a hunter and a warrior |
| 12:51.04 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy. Who had the adds? |
| 12:51.09 | Wobin_ | hunter |
| 12:51.23 | Wobin_ | I offhealed as the second shadow |
| 12:51.32 | Wobin_ | on the bosses at least =) |
| 12:52.19 | Lopeppeppy | Having a second healer is good for boss fights, or an add-manager who doesn't have self-heal. |
| 12:52.34 | Lopeppeppy | And trying to pally heal through Aeonus' time-stop is just.... sadness. |
| 12:54.35 | Lopeppeppy | If there were two topics I would ban on the UI forum, it would be G15 macros and character skinning. Just get those into the language filter so people understand that the dead horse is already beaten, thanks.... |
| 12:54.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh one time i got lucky and the 2nd bosses' ms only stacked to 4 |
| 12:55.24 | zenzelezz | more than half the time I've been in BM the debuff has worn off before it got particularly dangerous |
| 12:55.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | that made the place easy |
| 12:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had it stack to 10 multiple times on me |
| 12:55.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was interesting |
| 12:55.54 | Lopeppeppy | It's never been Mortal Strike that I had a problem with... it was always the time-stop. With no HoT that tank gets low very fast while I'm stunned. |
| 12:56.02 | zenzelezz | only once did it reach 10 on me, but I've had 7-8 |
| 12:56.45 | zenzelezz | I did have a crapton of debuffs on Fankriss once, because the second tank forgot to taunt |
| 12:59.28 | Cairenn|afk | ah, the english language - I've always wondered just how much a "crapton" is? |
| 12:59.48 | zenzelezz | we had that discussion in guild chat once |
| 12:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | Something short of a metric f*ckton. |
| 12:59.57 | Lopeppeppy | But more than just a load. |
| 12:59.58 | Cairenn|afk | lol Lopeppeppy |
| 13:00.02 | zenzelezz | think we agreed a crapton is about 3 shitloads |
| 13:00.24 | Lopeppeppy | That makes sense, zenzelezz... *does higher math in her head* |
| 13:00.28 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 13:02.50 | Wobin_ | what's a good tooltip equipcompare mod? |
| 13:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | I only add RatingBuster to my regular blizzard comparison tooltips. |
| 13:03.46 | Cairenn|afk | equipcompare, of course - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4392 |
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| 13:06.02 | Lopeppeppy | Awww... my wowinterface is sad today, it won't share. |
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| 13:07.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | All i know is a metric crapton is slightly smaller than the imperial equivalent |
| 13:08.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm.... *mind goes off on an epic naughty tangent* |
| 13:08.41 | Cairenn|afk | those imperials, always trying to prove they are so much "bigger" than everyone else |
| 13:08.49 | zenzelezz | O_O |
| 13:08.50 | Lopeppeppy | 'zactly. |
| 13:09.33 | Lopeppeppy | Only imperial stormtroopers are this precise. |
| 13:09.44 | zenzelezz | all of a sudden I'm thinking of Life of Brian |
| 13:09.54 | Josh_Borke | all of a sudden i'm crying inside |
| 13:10.03 | Wobin_ | Cairenn|afk: Thankee =) |
| 13:10.14 | Cairenn|afk | welcome :) |
| 13:10.29 | zenzelezz | did you ever wonder what they meant by "only imperial stormtroopers are this precise" when they can't hit a thing in most fights? |
| 13:10.47 | Lopeppeppy | I assumed it was high sarcasm on the part of Obi Ben |
| 13:10.54 | Wobin_ | Isn't that the point? |
| 13:11.43 | Wobin_ | Obi wan? =) |
| 13:12.17 | zenzelezz | unless he actually believed the sand people were precise, I don't see how it can could be sarcasm |
| 13:12.26 | Lopeppeppy | Obi Old Ben Wan... don't even get me started on his name. :) |
| 13:12.58 | Lopeppeppy | I think he was just being critical of stormtrooper ability in general, saying he knew it was them because they made such a mess out of things. |
| 13:13.29 | zenzelezz | hm, it's a possibility |
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| 13:21.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one refers to obi wan as ben in the prequels :o |
| 13:22.57 | zenzelezz | well, he wasn't "old" then |
| 13:23.11 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 13:23.14 | zenzelezz | young people want cool names, not "ben" |
| 13:23.55 | Lopeppeppy | Obi Old Ben Wan old guy exposition mitichlorion thing dude. |
| 13:24.01 | Lopeppeppy | Sir. |
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| 13:33.00 | Josh_Borke | morning bela |
| 13:33.12 | Beladona | morning |
| 13:33.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know a guy that went by ben |
| 13:33.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | because benjamin is lots worse i guess |
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| 13:33.55 | Lopeppeppy | Ben is quiet, calm and practical. Benny is the one I wouldn't want as a name. |
| 13:34.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless my name was hill |
| 13:34.08 | zenzelezz | I'm just glad I'm not Richard |
| 13:34.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, last name |
| 13:34.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd go by benny hill and have yakkety sax as my ringtone |
| 13:34.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd probably wind up in jail often though |
| 13:35.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the combination of those two would probably end up in sexual harassment of some variety |
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| 13:35.38 | Lopeppeppy | Or you getting assaulted! |
| 13:35.55 | TS|Skrom_ | whoah |
| 13:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. *grin* |
| 13:36.33 | TS|Skrom_ | nickserv ghost TS|Skrom vishnu00 |
| 13:36.38 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 13:36.39 | TS|Skrom_ | damnit |
| 13:36.51 | zenzelezz | never, ever use nickserv/chanserv commands in a channel window |
| 13:36.57 | TS|Skrom_ | meh |
| 13:37.25 | Lopeppeppy | It is merely one's reminder that passwords should change often. |
| 13:38.26 | TS|Skrom | whee, new passwords :) |
| 13:38.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just script mine |
| 13:38.30 | zenzelezz | my workplace forces you to change your password once a month or something like that; half the people at least just use the name of a family member + some number... and write it down under the keyboard |
| 13:38.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | so if nickserv asks for one |
| 13:38.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i give it one |
| 13:39.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't bother with password security though i know i should |
| 13:39.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | my memory is too bad |
| 13:39.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i know i should backup my files but i dont |
| 13:39.23 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a bit overconscious of it, the male-of-record is a computer security guy. |
| 13:40.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm more concerned about keeping stuff like that unpublished |
| 13:40.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | so people have no reason to crack my email or anything |
| 13:41.50 | Lopeppeppy | If they're going to crack my computer, I can't reasonably stop them short of breaking it first with a hammer. *shrug* I do the best I can with my limited human resources and sucky-poor memory systems. |
| 13:42.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also use firefox, noscript, adblock, nod32, and have NAT on my router |
| 13:42.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'm pretty close to preventing that side |
| 13:42.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | because that doesn't require lots of memorization |
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| 13:44.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't let people i don't trust with giving my credit card details out with even near my computer |
| 13:45.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course i won't because you never know when someone will backstab you :o |
| 13:45.21 | Lopeppeppy | I still want to see G15 discussion banned from the forums. *nodnod* |
| 13:46.40 | zenzelezz | I demand more pictures of your kitty |
| 13:47.00 | Lopeppeppy | I put up more last night, zenzelezz. Same url. |
| 13:47.35 | zenzelezz | didn't bookmark it, and my memory's about as good as my warrior's +healing |
| 13:48.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno man |
| 13:48.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | you never know |
| 13:48.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they may take away your ability to use potions and give you an ability that regens 2500 hp over 10 seconds that eats 10 rage a second |
| 13:48.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | owait that doesn't get benefit from +healing |
| 13:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 13:49.11 | zenzelezz | wouldn't make a difference as my gear still has no +healing |
| 13:49.15 | Lopeppeppy | I've seen the Battlemaster proc draw healing aggro. |
| 13:49.18 | TS|Skrom | once again proof that druids can complain about anything |
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| 13:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | Kitty -- http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/jarien/Kendra/ |
| 13:49.31 | zenzelezz | proc != +healing |
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| 13:49.54 | Lopeppeppy | Well... then he looked at the mob funny at just that exact moment. *laugh* |
| 13:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo |
| 13:51.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 13:51.43 | zenzelezz | am I not being obvious enough? I'm talking +healing equipment stat, not healing done from spells or procs |
| 13:51.46 | zenzelezz | or potions |
| 13:52.13 | zenzelezz | but at any rate, your cat actually looks a bit like mine :-o |
| 13:53.36 | Lopeppeppy | She's a good kitty, I'm pretty happy to be owned by her. Tabby tiger is the way to be. |
| 13:53.58 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 13:57.28 | Cairenn|afk | interesting video |
| 14:00.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's weird |
| 14:00.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like he's always nervous now that it's federal |
| 14:00.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | or it's a front :o |
| 14:01.42 | Cairenn|afk | wow, iPhone owners can't be happy about this: http://www.comcast.net/news/technology/index.jsp?cat=TECHNOLOGY&fn=/2007/07/05/707671.html&cvqh=itn_iphone |
| 14:03.59 | Lopeppeppy | Holy crap. |
| 14:04.07 | Cairenn|afk | that's completely ludicrous |
| 14:04.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 14:04.15 | Lopeppeppy | I forsee some returns. |
| 14:04.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm incredibly happy with my 25 dollar phone |
| 14:04.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has every feature the iphone has except the screen's nifties |
| 14:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | I sure wouldn't keep my device under those conditions. My cell was about 30, and I can replace my own damn batteries. |
| 14:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and more, like 3g support, and a huge amount of file format support |
| 14:05.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can read pdfs and docs on my phone :o |
| 14:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | and apparently play flash games but haven't tried yet |
| 14:05.27 | Cairenn|afk | I use my cellphone as a *gasp* cellphone |
| 14:05.28 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 14:05.36 | Josh_Borke | that's a lot for 25$ Mr_Rabies |
| 14:05.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use mine mostly as a camera |
| 14:05.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has a 2 mp camera |
| 14:05.44 | Cairenn|afk | not a web browser or a camera or or or |
| 14:05.45 | zenzelezz | I've had no cell phone for years! |
| 14:05.45 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, mine is just for telephoning. |
| 14:05.46 | Cairenn|afk | it's a PHONE |
| 14:05.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | and takes amazing photos |
| 14:06.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i prefer a land line usually |
| 14:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | I don't have a house phone, just my cellphone. Too much extra for putting in the lines here. |
| 14:06.29 | Cairenn|afk | where are you Lopeppeppy? |
| 14:06.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | service is too bad out here |
| 14:06.43 | Lopeppeppy | A new housing complex outside of Albany NY. |
| 14:06.49 | Cairenn|afk | ah |
| 14:06.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | 0 bars down here, 1 near the window on the ground floor |
| 14:07.10 | Lopeppeppy | It's the "new" part, no landlines were laid in at the time... so we just went cell. Now it wouldn't be as expensive. |
| 14:07.19 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
| 14:07.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2-4 on the 2nd floor |
| 14:07.38 | Lopeppeppy | If I go very far from the city, the cell coverage drops, because there aren't repeater towers in the Adirondack park or Hudson valley preserves. |
| 14:08.06 | Thrae | My phone has a pull-out keyboard, fully compatible internet browser, EVDO, test messaging, email, IM, Windows Mobile compatible with third-party apps like PuTTY, 1.6 megapixel camera which can take video and stills, microphone recordings to compressed files, microSD expansion slot, bluetooth, infrared, wireless networking, and more. |
| 14:08.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, mine has infrared, no pullout keyboard |
| 14:08.36 | Thrae | Now if my phone could dial and make calls as well, it'd be perfect! |
| 14:08.48 | Lopeppeppy | Thrae.... that's not a phone, that's a laptop. |
| 14:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | er not IR |
| 14:08.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | bluetooth |
| 14:09.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if it supports bluetooth keyboards |
| 14:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 14:09.26 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:10.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 14:10.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | imageshack is being a jerk |
| 14:10.32 | Thrae | foxlit: (responding to something 4 hours ago) ThraeBot tells you if it caches armory results for players by adding (Xm old), and resets every 3600 seconds. I found this was better then caching indefinately, since the bot is always on. |
| 14:11.15 | Thrae | And now, for something completely different -- me going to take a shower. I really need one this month! |
| 14:11.30 | Lopeppeppy | Always wash behind your ears, Thrae. |
| 14:11.34 | TS|Skrom | Someone check me syntax: /run s=SendChatMessage g=GetRaidRosterInfo for i=1,40 do n,r=g("raid"..i) if (r==2) then s("Please group, X, Y and myself together","WHISPER",n) end end |
| 14:12.23 | nevcairiel | guess you need some ; |
| 14:12.38 | TS|Skrom | :p |
| 14:12.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1712/photo0030zw4.jpg |
| 14:12.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | not too bad for a 25 dollar camera/phone/mp3 player/document reader/everything, eh? |
| 14:13.24 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom: you do realize you're doing s and g for no reason, right? since tehy are only used once |
| 14:13.31 | Josh_Borke | and you're leaking n, r |
| 14:13.42 | TS|Skrom | habit |
| 14:13.45 | TS|Skrom | leaking? |
| 14:13.47 | TS|Skrom | ooops |
| 14:13.51 | Josh_Borke | well, making them global |
| 14:13.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot to wipe the lens down before taking the picture, so they're a little bloomy :x |
| 14:13.59 | TS|Skrom | yeah *palmface* |
| 14:14.00 | nevcairiel | same with s and g |
| 14:14.02 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:14.18 | zenzelezz | hm, I read that as "*palaface*" |
| 14:14.18 | Lopeppeppy | ImageShack is being a jerk. I've had so many weird DNS issues today. |
| 14:14.42 | TS|Skrom | haw |
| 14:14.43 | Josh_Borke | TS|Skrom: noob |
| 14:14.48 | TS|Skrom | it's true |
| 14:14.57 | TS|Skrom | just trying to help out these wily forum posters |
| 14:15.14 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, no need to harm yourself with a paladin to the face! It's just a macro. |
| 14:15.16 | Lopeppeppy | Even if it leaks. |
| 14:15.33 | zenzelezz | leaky paladins suck |
| 14:15.49 | Lopeppeppy | Not always. Sometimes physics... nevermind. |
| 14:15.56 | TS|Skrom | oh wait |
| 14:16.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to go to bed |
| 14:16.02 | TS|Skrom | would that work cross bg I wonder |
| 14:16.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | at 10 am |
| 14:16.18 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is good, wherever you find it, Mr_Rabies2. |
| 14:16.19 | TS|Skrom | would GetRaidRosterInfo give the full whisperable name? |
| 14:16.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll see you guys at like 8 pm :( |
| 14:16.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really hate not being able to keep a real sleep schedule |
| 14:16.27 | TS|Skrom | That's the whole point of what the guy wanted |
| 14:16.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's driving me insane |
| 14:16.44 | TS|Skrom | I'd better log in and check |
| 14:16.49 | TS|Skrom | not that I need an excuse not to work |
| 14:17.40 | Lopeppeppy | I did 5 years on swing shift, after a year on overnights... my sleep took a whole year to get rid of the insomnia afterward. |
| 14:18.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have insomnia as much as like |
| 14:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | my internal clock is like, 26-28 hours |
| 14:18.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i always go to sleep 2-4 hours later every day |
| 14:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | Whoops. that leads to "wackyville" pretty quickly. |
| 14:19.13 | Wobin_ | Mr_Rabies, you need to move to a larger planet |
| 14:19.30 | Lopeppeppy | Krypton. |
| 14:19.36 | Lopeppeppy | Different sun system entirely. |
| 14:19.48 | Wobin_ | I hear property prices on Krypton are... explosive... |
| 14:20.11 | TS|Skrom | ~rimshot |
| 14:20.12 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
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| 14:20.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | and thus my body's internal clock doesn't have normal day-night cycle to get used to :/ |
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| 14:23.03 | Wobin_ | You can sit around and wait for the phone to ring |
| 14:23.06 | Wobin_ | (End of the line) |
| 14:23.12 | Wobin_ | Waiting for someone to tell you everything |
| 14:23.19 | Wobin_ | (End of the line) |
| 14:23.24 | Wobin_ | Sit around and wonder what tomorrow will bring |
| 14:23.31 | Wobin_ | (End of the line) |
| 14:23.35 | Wobin_ | Maybe a diamond ring |
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| 14:27.22 | TS|Skrom | is it alterac weekend? |
| 14:28.42 | Lopeppeppy | Why is it always Alterac weekend when I'm going away? |
| 14:28.50 | zenzelezz | Alterac? I'm not going to Alterac, I'm in for it as it is! |
| 14:29.38 | TS|Skrom | I was only asking because there's 1 warsong, 0 arathi, 0 eye of the storm and 18 alteracs currently in my battlegroup |
| 14:29.50 | Thrae | *said in a deep, British accent* Your showering is complete. Yet your town is under attack! |
| 14:31.43 | Lopeppeppy | *confused by TS|Skrom, decides to jump on the ShowerTime bandwagon* |
| 14:33.42 | TS|Skrom | what's confusing? |
| 14:34.36 | Lopeppeppy | In what way do you use this term "battlegroup" in this context? |
| 14:34.58 | Lopeppeppy | I've only ever heard it refer to the servers that share my battleground queue... but that seems not to be what you're meaning there. |
| 14:35.21 | TS|Skrom | yeah that's what I mean... |
| 14:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Still confused then. |
| 14:35.45 | TS|Skrom | I go to my battlemasters, open the queue and there's 1 warsong, 0 arathi, 0 eye of the storm and 18 alteracs |
| 14:35.55 | TS|Skrom | technically those queues exist for my battlegroup |
| 14:35.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh.... you're talking players queued. |
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| 14:36.11 | Lopeppeppy | That is more understood now. |
| 14:36.23 | Bam__ | is it my connection or is Thottbot extremely slow? |
| 14:36.44 | Lopeppeppy | Everything has been wonky today, Bam! I think the Intrawebz have a fever. |
| 14:36.53 | Bam__ | ok thanks |
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| 14:41.54 | Lopeppeppy | Of course, I thought that was a DNS issue on my end, so YMMV on my theory.... |
| 14:42.28 | Bam__ | well item searches almost always time out |
| 14:45.05 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. I did a few item searches. It was slow, but not timing out for me. |
| 14:45.33 | Bam__ | try a page like this: http://www.thottbot.com/?iclass=4.1&start=200 |
| 14:45.50 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7335-Transforuid.html |
| 14:46.58 | TS|Skrom | :O |
| 14:47.13 | Lopeppeppy | Page loads blank for me, Bam. *shrug* They seem to be sick. |
| 14:47.24 | Bam__ | yea :( |
| 14:47.49 | TS|Skrom | lol love Tekkub's comments |
| 14:48.05 | Lopeppeppy | Buy them some penicillan on the internet. There are some servers down for database maintenance, so the "related" sites get harder hit on these days. |
| 14:48.28 | Bam__ | I think Mr Thott is sitting on the wire :P |
| 14:48.45 | Lopeppeppy | Mr. Thott is gonna get a rash then. |
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| 14:49.09 | Lopeppeppy | Must love trashing a mod in it's comments section? I mean, I see the point made, but... |
| 14:49.39 | Bam__ | I think he likes asserting his opinion a lot :P |
| 14:49.53 | TS|Skrom | most people do |
| 14:50.14 | Bam__ | nah |
| 14:50.20 | Legorolo | may i assert my opinion that most people don't like to assert their opinions, but you only see those that do |
| 14:50.35 | Bam__ | most people have opinions... but most know when they are worth asserting :) |
| 14:50.59 | Legorolo | i disagree, my opinion (which is worth asserting) is that most people dont' have opinions |
| 14:51.09 | Bam__ | erm |
| 14:51.14 | Lopeppeppy | People also don't know when to agree to disagree, and just drop it. |
| 14:51.21 | Legorolo | agreed |
| 14:51.22 | Lopeppeppy | *perky homicidal smile* |
| 14:51.23 | Legorolo | so let's disagree |
| 14:51.26 | TS|Skrom | I assert my opinion that you are both wrong. It's human nature to want to be right. |
| 14:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | True that. |
| 14:51.33 | Bam__ | I don't want to disagree! |
| 14:51.45 | Legorolo | but i think you should want to disagree, so i disagree |
| 14:51.54 | Bam__ | you are wrong! |
| 14:51.56 | Bam__ | oops... |
| 14:52.06 | TS|Skrom | quid pro quo |
| 14:52.07 | Legorolo | point made :o) |
| 14:52.35 | GnancyWK | squid pro quo? |
| 14:52.38 | Legorolo | how's everyone? |
| 14:52.45 | Legorolo | apart from having a laugh :D |
| 14:52.57 | Lopeppeppy | Hungry for calamari. |
| 14:53.01 | Bam__ | I assert therefor I am |
| 14:53.02 | Lopeppeppy | I need to kill me some draeni. |
| 14:53.08 | Legorolo | i'm hungry in general... maybe pizza is in order |
| 14:53.14 | Legorolo | Bam__: good one |
| 14:53.30 | Legorolo | so what happens if you get an assertion error? do you go out of existence |
| 14:53.44 | Bam__ | >>> assert(Bam) |
| 14:53.52 | Bam__ | hmm what was that syntax? |
| 14:54.07 | Bam__ | or is the bot gone? |
| 14:54.33 | TS|Skrom | if (FileExists(me.h)) { ASSERT(me.h) } |
| 14:54.41 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 14:54.51 | Bam__ | but no... I just put a not in there and I am all happy again :D |
| 14:55.01 | Legorolo | lua> assert(Bam_) |
| 14:55.32 | Bam__ | void result :O |
| 14:55.38 | TS|Skrom | Cladbot and Cide are offline atm |
| 14:55.41 | Legorolo | bot is still here |
| 14:55.45 | Legorolo | join #luabot |
| 14:55.49 | Legorolo | it spams in there |
| 14:55.56 | Bam__ | ok |
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| 15:01.28 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7335#cmnt44476 <-- help me get that within 255 characters :-D |
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| 15:07.44 | Josh_Borke | cog! |
| 15:07.47 | Josh_Borke | i need help! |
| 15:08.25 | Josh_Borke | http://wowi.pastey.net/70397 <-- i need to fit that in a macro |
| 15:08.30 | Josh_Borke | well, not need, but want |
| 15:09.28 | Ky|Work | 255 is the limit? |
| 15:09.58 | Josh_Borke | pretty sure |
| 15:10.01 | Josh_Borke | i think i'm 1 char short |
| 15:10.03 | Bam__ | start by being a dirty boy and dropping local variables :) |
| 15:10.11 | Josh_Borke | neva! |
| 15:10.16 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 15:10.23 | Josh_Borke | but! |
| 15:10.25 | Josh_Borke | thanks |
| 15:10.57 | Josh_Borke | http://wowi.pastey.net/70398 |
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| 15:12.34 | Lopeppeppy | Are you trying to make the addon into a macro? |
| 15:12.36 | Ky|Work | Josh_Borke: http://wowi.pastey.net/70399 that still work? |
| 15:12.38 | Bam__ | I think there are some spaces that can be removed too |
| 15:12.56 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: me? of course not >_< |
| 15:13.15 | Lopeppeppy | Just wondering, since I know some druids who would run it as a macro, but not as an addon. |
| 15:13.36 | Ky|Work | You'd still need it in addon form for the sound-file |
| 15:13.45 | Lopeppeppy | You'd still need the addon folder to put the sound into though.. yeah, what Ky|Work said. |
| 15:15.30 | Ky|Work | Nice work Josh, lol |
| 15:15.36 | Josh_Borke | >_< |
| 15:15.52 | Josh_Borke | i haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about |
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| 15:16.04 | Mikk | ~framexml Fonts.xml |
| 15:16.05 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/Fonts.xml |
| 15:16.07 | Josh_Borke | could you leave the addon disabled and still use the sound file embedded? |
| 15:16.10 | Josh_Borke | hi mikk |
| 15:16.22 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: don't think so, but don't quote me on it |
| 15:16.27 | Ky|Work | would it even need to be an addon? or just the sound be somewhere |
| 15:16.38 | Josh_Borke | maybe it could just be somewhere? |
| 15:16.39 | Ky|Work | ie could you just drop it in Interface/Sounds ? |
| 15:16.50 | Mikk | That could work |
| 15:16.54 | Punkie` | ~framexml DELICIOUSCAKE.xml |
| 15:16.55 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/DELICIOUSCAKE.xml |
| 15:17.03 | Josh_Borke | ~literal framexml |
| 15:17.04 | purl | "framexml" is "<reply> get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/" |
| 15:17.15 | Mikk | ~literal framexml $1 |
| 15:17.16 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/$1 |
| 15:17.28 | Josh_Borke | ~framexml mikk is lazy |
| 15:17.29 | purl | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/live/FrameXML/mikk is lazy |
| 15:17.43 | Ky|Work | :) |
| 15:17.44 | Mikk | laziness is an inherent trait in all successful programmers |
| 15:18.02 | Josh_Borke | where's my tree synch'ing algorithm? |
| 15:18.08 | Mikk | the desire to be able to lazy will drive us to insane week-long coding bouts just to save those few seconds every once in a while |
| 15:19.05 | Legorolo | lol |
| 15:19.12 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: I'm wondering if perhaps times are usable after all... if you're willing to e.g. require 3 other people to be online to establish a known-good time. |
| 15:19.46 | Legorolo | Josh_Borke: you can save some space by dropping the variable "c" entirely |
| 15:19.58 | Legorolo | if s~=g(1) then .... s=g(1) end |
| 15:20.18 | Ky|Work | why do you do g(1) I thought that arg didn't do anything? |
| 15:20.22 | Ky|Work | should g() return the same? |
| 15:20.39 | Josh_Borke | Legorolo: yea, i thought about that |
| 15:20.44 | Legorolo | no idea how GetShapeShiftForm works :D |
| 15:20.48 | Josh_Borke | Legorolo: but i thought, no sense in doing the same work twice |
| 15:20.50 | Legorolo | i'm just going by what Josh does |
| 15:20.59 | Legorolo | Josh_Borke: but there is sense in saving macro space ;_) |
| 15:21.04 | Legorolo | sice that's what's your problem |
| 15:21.04 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 15:21.22 | Legorolo | also you can drop the initial assignment to s, and just go with: |
| 15:21.27 | Josh_Borke | #api GetShapeShiftForm |
| 15:21.28 | ThraeBot | Could not find anything relevant, Josh_Borke |
| 15:21.28 | Foxbot | Could not find anything relevant, Josh_Borke |
| 15:21.31 | Legorolo | local f,s=CreateFrame'Frame' |
| 15:22.10 | TS|Skrom_ | #api GetShapeshiftForm |
| 15:22.11 | ThraeBot | TS|Skrom_: stance = GetShapeshiftForm(arg1); |
| 15:22.11 | Foxbot | TS|Skrom_: stance = GetShapeshiftForm(arg1); |
| 15:22.14 | Legorolo | sure you'll get the sound once on initialisation, but you save macro space |
| 15:22.23 | Josh_Borke | does PAC fire when you log in? |
| 15:22.28 | Legorolo | no idea |
| 15:22.44 | Legorolo | does it matter? |
| 15:22.51 | Legorolo | all that will happen is you get the sound on the first PAC |
| 15:22.55 | Legorolo | and then it's all sorted |
| 15:23.16 | Josh_Borke | true |
| 15:26.31 | Ky|Work | I just realized how awesome the generic state driver is |
| 15:26.32 | Josh_Borke | the newest version i posted is 221 characters |
| 15:26.37 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7335&jump=44476#cmnt44476 |
| 15:26.40 | Ky|Work | I've hated it for days, but now that it works, im amazed |
| 15:26.54 | Legorolo | Josh_Borke: still don't know how you will get the sound working though without an addon |
| 15:27.44 | Legorolo | aha, neat save with the c there ;-) |
| 15:27.55 | Legorolo | let's see if we can trim it a bit more :D |
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| 15:28.29 | Legorolo | although i think using '' instead of () is a bit over the top ;-) |
| 15:28.39 | Legorolo | doesn't save space, but it does give it a h4x feeling :D |
| 15:28.40 | Josh_Borke | Legorolo: i wanted to make sure i pass not false to the function |
| 15:29.24 | Josh_Borke | oh, and the reason I get the initial state is if they gain a buff i don't want it sending out a sound |
| 15:29.43 | Legorolo | oh i see, so arg1 has to be true? |
| 15:29.46 | Legorolo | (or non-false) |
| 15:29.48 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 15:29.50 | Legorolo | i didn't read the api |
| 15:29.54 | Josh_Borke | it's always called by blizzard with true |
| 15:29.57 | Legorolo | in that case, very neat with the '' |
| 15:30.11 | Legorolo | presumably anything that is non-nil/non-false will work |
| 15:30.16 | Josh_Borke | personally, I hate the <function>'param' format |
| 15:30.21 | Legorolo | hehe i love it |
| 15:30.29 | Legorolo | print "Hello world!" |
| 15:30.36 | Legorolo | print {1, 2, 3} |
| 15:30.37 | Legorolo | etc. |
| 15:30.38 | Josh_Borke | lua> print'go to hell format' |
| 15:30.41 | Legorolo | hehe |
| 15:30.54 | Josh_Borke | since i shaved enough chars off, i should fix that ;-P |
| 15:32.08 | Legorolo | return values of GetSsform, i find this amusing: |
| 15:32.10 | Legorolo | "0 = human form " |
| 15:32.20 | Legorolo | but what if i'm a dwarf/troll/gnome/undead etc.? |
| 15:32.40 | Legorolo | i'll edit it to humanoid form :o) |
| 15:33.28 | Legorolo | there! |
| 15:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a platypus. What number is that? |
| 15:33.36 | Legorolo | -1 |
| 15:34.47 | Mikk | Then again negative numbers aren't natural numbers are they |
| 15:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | Is a platypus natural? Really-really? |
| 15:36.16 | Legorolo | let's start the "is 0 a natural number?" debate! |
| 15:36.30 | Josh_Borke | let's not and say we didn't |
| 15:36.49 | Mikk | Huhu |
| 15:37.10 | Mikk | Clearly, you can't fit anything natural into something that isn't. So 0 isn't natural. |
| 15:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | No need to import obscure drama llamas when we have the domesticated variety. |
| 15:37.16 | Bam__ | josh you arent using the paramaters in the function, so just remove them :) |
| 15:37.59 | Bam__ | or "reuse" one as a local variable lol |
| 15:38.02 | Mikk | I mean, assume a Llama is 5 |
| 15:38.12 | Mikk | Then you try and stuff that into nothingness (0) |
| 15:38.13 | Mikk | That won't work |
| 15:38.29 | Mikk | Unless you're willing to end up with some sort of pseudo-schroedinger-Llama |
| 15:38.49 | Lopeppeppy | Schroedinger makes an excellent study for zoo management. |
| 15:38.54 | Lopeppeppy | You only have to feed the ones on display. |
| 15:39.14 | Josh_Borke | Bam__: what do you mean? |
| 15:39.23 | Josh_Borke | oh, right |
| 15:39.32 | Bam__ | just write function() blah blah |
| 15:39.32 | Josh_Borke | good idea |
| 15:40.03 | Bam__ | the reuse idea is ugly though :D |
| 15:42.19 | Josh_Borke | meh, i'm tired of it |
| 15:42.22 | Josh_Borke | i'll just leave it :-D |
| 15:42.31 | Legorolo | what's the last version? |
| 15:42.39 | Lopeppeppy | It was a good mental macro masturbation while it lasted though. |
| 15:42.46 | Josh_Borke | /run local g,f,s,c=GetShapeshiftForm,CreateFrame'Frame' s=g'' f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED") f:SetScript("OnEvent",function(f,e) c=g'' if s~=c then PlaySoundFile("Interface\\sounds\\shapeshift.mp3") s=c end end) |
| 15:43.05 | Josh_Borke | 221 characters |
| 15:43.25 | Legorolo | i love macro haxxory |
| 15:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | There would then require a "sounds" directory inside your Interface folder, with the mp3 inside? |
| 15:43.51 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: |
| 15:43.54 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: yes |
| 15:43.58 | Legorolo | back in the days when we didn't have /equip etc., i posed a challenge for the shortest invertible Dual wield (or 1H+shield) <-> 2H weapon swap macro |
| 15:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | neat. I can read macroese a bit more now. |
| 15:44.35 | TS|Skrom_ | you know what i hate... |
| 15:44.45 | Josh_Borke | pejople |
| 15:44.48 | TS|Skrom_ | dummy flag carriers who outrun their escort then bitch about how no one helped them |
| 15:44.52 | Lopeppeppy | Onions in my tunafish |
| 15:45.01 | Legorolo | i can read macroese due to a) having known the Lua side of thigns for a long time b) having read Cog's treatise in macros in 2.x |
| 15:45.05 | Lopeppeppy | And stupid flag carriers who try to go solo. |
| 15:45.08 | Legorolo | the latter is a gift |
| 15:45.21 | Legorolo | TS|Skrom_: i totally sympathise |
| 15:45.25 | Lopeppeppy | I know very very little of Lua, I'm just absorbing as I go along. |
| 15:45.39 | Legorolo | the worst ones are those that, when they see that alliance flag just got picked up and there is no alliance up in flag room, just carry on rushing up the tunnel |
| 15:45.46 | Legorolo | they run into the horde group, and BAM! |
| 15:45.49 | TS|Skrom_ | omg those druid trees do a LOT of damage |
| 15:45.53 | TS|Skrom_ | boomkin ftw |
| 15:46.12 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 15:46.13 | Mikk | Legorolo: mass fear and dot everything and then leg it out ftw =) |
| 15:46.20 | Bam__ | yea? |
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| 15:46.22 | Legorolo | you can't, when the alli flag just got picked up |
| 15:46.29 | Legorolo | you are running into the oncoming horde group |
| 15:46.31 | Legorolo | with no backup |
| 15:46.37 | Legorolo | and where do you run anyway? |
| 15:46.44 | Legorolo | flag got picked up, so you can't leg it out |
| 15:47.01 | TS|Skrom_ | well that was fun, got a little honor and tested that macro that guy wanted XD |
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| 15:47.15 | Legorolo | oth, it seems that by far the safest place for a healer to be is following an fc |
| 15:47.22 | Legorolo | i never get hurt when i do that with my priest :D |
| 15:47.30 | TS|Skrom_ | O.o |
| 15:47.31 | TS|Skrom_ | really? |
| 15:47.37 | Legorolo | yup, everyone has tunnel vision |
| 15:47.40 | Legorolo | they try to nuke fc |
| 15:47.46 | TS|Skrom_ | all I do in bg on my pally is heal and I tend to get focus fired real quick |
| 15:47.53 | Legorolo | yah, that happens |
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| 15:48.02 | Legorolo | but if you are following the fc, suddenly people's perception changes |
| 15:48.16 | TS|Skrom_ | it'd be an interesting graph I think... the chance of me getting FF'd is proportional to the length of time the battleground has lasted |
| 15:48.27 | TS|Skrom_ | the higher my "Healing done" number becomes the more I die |
| 15:48.29 | TS|Skrom_ | ironically |
| 15:48.51 | Legorolo | healers are still the best way to farm honour though ;-_) |
| 15:49.16 | Mikk | slap rank1 renew on anything that moves |
| 15:49.48 | Cide | I fort people with rank 1 fort |
| 15:49.49 | Josh_Borke | be back after lunch |
| 15:49.54 | Cide | most of them reply "thanks!" |
| 15:50.36 | Cide | so they think I'm the nicest person in azeroth when really, I'm the biggest ass! |
| 15:50.56 | Legorolo | i love credit cards and online ordering.. I don't need anything physical whatsoever, just a bunch of numbers i have memorised, and i can pay with that |
| 15:51.28 | TS|Skrom_ | lol@Cide |
| 15:51.55 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 15:52.13 | TS|Skrom_ | whoa |
| 15:52.51 | Legorolo | anyhoo, later all |
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| 15:56.09 | TS|Skrom_ | it's funny |
| 15:56.18 | TS|Skrom_ | the guys says "I've updated all so this is not the problem" |
| 15:56.26 | TS|Skrom_ | but his very problem was fixed in a later revision of the mod |
| 15:59.13 | TS|Skrom_ | why why why do I try to post to the forums using CTRL+S |
| 16:00.15 | cog|work | is a pet's focus always 1-100 like rage? |
| 16:00.31 | TS|Skrom_ | yep |
| 16:01.00 | TS|Skrom_ | I might not be completely correct, I suppose some set bonus or on equip could raise it but I've not seen one |
| 16:01.16 | TS|Skrom_ | there's talents and things that increase the regen, but I've not seen a cap raise anywhere |
| 16:01.17 | Cide | there's not atm |
| 16:02.28 | cog|work | is energy 1-100 also? |
| 16:02.35 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 16:02.39 | [dRaCo] | there are modifiers |
| 16:03.03 | cog|work | hmm... |
| 16:03.05 | [dRaCo] | vigor, 4 part arena set bonus and 5 part t2 set bonus, iirc |
| 16:03.21 | Cide | sounds about right |
| 16:03.33 | TS|Skrom_ | I was remembering it being T1, but you know my memory ;-) |
| 16:03.44 | [dRaCo] | each increasing energy by 10 |
| 16:04.03 | cog|work | I guess i can live with a percentage even when the absolute max really is 100... |
| 16:04.08 | Cide | it was T1 |
| 16:04.35 | TS|Skrom_ | http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=204 |
| 16:04.38 | TS|Skrom_ | whoa I was right XD |
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| 16:04.49 | Cide | nightslayer for the win |
| 16:04.52 | TS|Skrom_ | now if only I could use this power for good, not evil |
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| 16:16.36 | TS|Skrom_ | GoogleFu XD |
| 16:17.58 | TS|Skrom_ | I know of two ways built into the game to leave a part, right click your portrait and select leave party or type /run LeavePart() any other ways? |
| 16:18.00 | Lopeppeppy | Having good SearchEngineFu can make your entire day go right. |
| 16:18.24 | Lopeppeppy | ... /script LeaveParty() was what I always used if it bugged from the portrait. |
| 16:18.58 | TS|Skrom_ | okay just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything easy |
| 16:19.06 | TS|Skrom_ | because the other night I added a /disband slash command |
| 16:19.13 | Lopeppeppy | Don't rely on me, I know ze nothinks. |
| 16:21.18 | cog|work | Ok... I must be missing something completely obvious here... can someone please take a look at the two highlighted lines in http://wowi.pastey.net/70401 ? |
| 16:21.43 | cog|work | never mind |
| 16:21.47 | cog|work | >< |
| 16:23.45 | Wobin_ | hehe line 11? =) |
| 16:23.56 | cog|work | yep :P |
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| 16:40.16 | cog|work | Will a UNIT_MANA/RAGE/etc. event always follow a UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER event? (I don't have any druids handy to test :P ) |
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| 17:01.57 | TS|Skrom_ | what's the largest bag the game will allow? |
| 17:03.37 | zenzelezz | of what kind? |
| 17:03.57 | TS|Skrom_ | any, thought someone mentioned a couple weeks ago that the game would only support 6x4? |
| 17:04.01 | BrickEater | thought someone mentioned a couple up from work |
| 17:04.07 | TS|Skrom_ | but there's 28 slotter enchanting bag |
| 17:04.09 | BrickEater | but there's a PuTTY for GTK now...who knew |
| 17:04.25 | zenzelezz | my gem bag is 4x7 (or 7x4, however you see it) |
| 17:04.30 | BrickEater | my gem bag is 4x7 (or 7x4, however you want and send me an imac |
| 17:04.44 | TS|Skrom_ | um |
| 17:05.04 | TS|Skrom_ | mod plzkthx |
| 17:05.17 | Lopeppeppy | I should really send my jewelcrafter a gem bag.... |
| 17:06.34 | zenzelezz | (gem = mining, I keep mixing them) |
| 17:06.37 | BrickEater | (gem = mining, I keep doing it now |
| 17:07.13 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 17:07.23 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 17:09.05 | TS|Skrom_ | I NEED AN ADMIN! I NEED AN ADMIN! |
| 17:09.26 | Josh_Borke | hi |
| 17:09.30 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Getting a gem bag and a mining bag was the most useful thing I did on my Jewelcrafting character. |
| 17:09.36 | BrickEater | Getting a response that says 100 or whatever |
| 17:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | I did the rounds of enchanting and herb bags, I just sort of... er... forgot about the other bags. Allerian Stronghold, correct? |
| 17:14.14 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 17:14.36 | Lunessa | Note you can only equip one at a time, but you can use as many as you like in the bank. :) |
| 17:15.18 | Lopeppeppy | I do most of my crafting at the bank anyway, across all characters, so that's not an issue... I prefer to keep materials banked rather than toting them. I figure all that junk must get heavy. |
| 17:15.47 | Lunessa | And ore and gems tend to add up fast. |
| 17:16.17 | Gnarfoz | who needs banks when you've got mailboxes :D |
| 17:17.35 | Lunessa | I have 4 "main" characters, and I send stuff back and forth all the time - but since those characters are also key crafters formy guild I can't leave my ,mailboxes full. |
| 17:20.06 | Lopeppeppy | I worry about using the mailboxes too extensively. I only leave things there that I can live without if the server crashes and eats them. |
| 17:20.16 | Lopeppeppy | The Mail Goblins are notoriously hungry for random materials. |
| 17:22.33 | Lopeppeppy | Am I confused, or remembering this correctly? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174628187&postId=1744426469&sid=1#3 |
| 17:22.38 | BrickEater | Am I so regret ever bringing that code there |
| 17:23.21 | Lopeppeppy | I need an adult.... *sniffle* |
| 17:23.24 | BrickEater | I need access controls as far as I've ever written: http://pastie.caboo.se/20786 |
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| 17:27.07 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You're more or less right - but I don't know that anyone has promised a fix in a specific patch. |
| 17:27.12 | BrickEater | You're more or less right - but I haven't been since june 2005 |
| 17:28.50 | Lopeppeppy | It's just sorta of been mentioned somewhere as "yeah, we're working on that for a patch"... |
| 17:28.51 | zenzelezz | is it just me or does BrickEater half-repeat sentences? |
| 17:28.54 | BrickEater | is it hosted? |
| 17:28.57 | Lopeppeppy | Bot much? |
| 17:29.28 | BrickEater | I'm not a robot, you're a robot |
| 17:29.52 | BrickEater | Lopeppeppy sends a prayer to the part about sewage sucking camels |
| 17:30.08 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 17:32.01 | Cairenn|afk | ... |
| 17:32.20 | Lunessa | Good thing /ignore works... |
| 17:32.25 | BrickEater | Good thing the same time the other day |
| 17:32.28 | BrickEater | oh noes, an op :( |
| 17:32.41 | Cairenn|afk | waking the wrath of the Cairenn isn't a good thing |
| 17:32.44 | BrickEater | waking the wrath of the way to make transfer keep the code that picks the gayest available avatar for people named bentglasstube? |
| 17:32.49 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [BrickEater!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn|afk (Cairenn|afk) |
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| 17:32.59 | BrickEater | Cairenn|afk: wanker! |
| 17:33.14 | Cairenn|afk | that was your warning, the next one is a kick-ban |
| 17:33.17 | Zicon | Wow. A masochist. |
| 17:33.17 | BrickEater | that was that program is fun to play around with myth before, and it comes with |
| 17:33.38 | zenzelezz | couldn't you at least *try*, like the forum trolls? |
| 17:33.43 | BrickEater | couldn't you at on there? |
| 17:33.47 | Cairenn|afk | /who brickeater |
| 17:34.38 | GnancyWK | why cant BrickEater make any sense? |
| 17:34.42 | BrickEater | why cant BrickEater make any sense |
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| 17:34.59 | Mikk | <3 |
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| 17:35.02 | BrickEater | Cairenn|afk: wanker! |
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| 17:36.11 | GnancyWK | heh that was ..... entertaining |
| 17:36.12 | Mikk | cheers, we needed that |
| 17:36.27 | Lopeppeppy | You have saved our lives. We are eternally grateful. |
| 17:36.31 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 17:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | Especially us sewage-sucking camel worshippers. :| |
| 17:36.58 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe, that one was cute, sorry, but it was ;) |
| 17:37.10 | Lopeppeppy | I don't dispute that it was creatively hilarious! |
| 17:37.23 | GnancyWK | some insult trasnlator? |
| 17:37.30 | Cairenn|afk | probably |
| 17:37.44 | Punkie` | http://eatabrick.org/ |
| 17:37.45 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 17:37.45 | Lopeppeppy | Something like that. Always fun to watch code in action, until it gets boring and must stop. |
| 17:38.00 | cog|work | Hey look... his website has his real name on it... |
| 17:38.08 | cog|work | anyone up for some identity theft? |
| 17:38.46 | GnancyWK | heh the slogan there |
| 17:38.47 | GnancyWK | For to be to make you smarter. |
| 17:38.47 | GnancyWK | For to be to get you dead. |
| 17:39.03 | GnancyWK | that says alot |
| 17:39.06 | Cairenn|afk | wonder how long until he blogs what an unreasonable bitch I am and how everyone should boycott this channel and site |
| 17:39.40 | zenzelezz | haha |
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| 17:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | Fewer botter weirdoes is okay by me. I'm always dismayed to be boycotted by fringe groups of fringe groups of splinter cells. |
| 17:39.59 | zenzelezz | you naughty administratrix |
| 17:40.13 | Cairenn|afk | oooo, my turn for spankings? |
| 17:40.32 | Lopeppeppy | Wait. Where is the line forming? |
| 17:40.36 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 17:41.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm trying to prepare for 24 hours of AFK boredom... I'm running out of ideas fast. |
| 17:44.39 | Cairenn|afk | hehehehe: http://www.garfield.com/comics/comics_archives_strip.html?2007-ga070706 |
| 17:45.17 | Lopeppeppy | That's what my living room looked like this morning, except it was cat + newspaper |
| 17:48.44 | Lunessa | The cat has consumed her mind. She lets it shred newspaper all over the living room! |
| 17:49.29 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 17:50.35 | Lopeppeppy | I was asleep-ing at the time, Lunessa... she was sneaky quiet and didn't get her noise level above the AC. |
| 17:51.14 | Lunessa | A cat by any other name would still be a sneaky little beast that craps behind the couch. And we'd still love them. |
| 17:51.18 | Cairenn|afk | kittens == cuteness overload |
| 17:51.39 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly, yup. |
| 17:51.52 | Lopeppeppy | The look of "What?" is priceless. |
| 17:52.01 | Cairenn|afk | although right now I'm about ready to kill my two cats >< |
| 17:52.28 | Lunessa | I R KAT, ALL UR LIFE R BELONG TO ME! |
| 17:53.16 | Lopeppeppy | No, Cairenn... they are just exerting their person-hood. Lunessa is wise. |
| 17:53.41 | Cairenn|afk | no, they're pushing their luck, big time |
| 17:53.58 | Cairenn|afk | and I don't know what's caused it |
| 17:54.17 | Lunessa | I'm the "Creepy Old Cat Person" - but I did it at a young age. I've had as many as 20 cats at once. |
| 17:54.57 | zenzelezz | Cairenn|afk: what are they doing? |
| 17:55.10 | Lopeppeppy | I have only had to squirt my new kitty once... she knows that squirt bottle already and stops dead in her tracks when she sees it. |
| 17:55.36 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 17:55.53 | Cairenn|afk | they've stopped using their litter boxes to puddle in - instead, they are using the front hall floor - they still mess in the litter boxes, but one or the other (or both) won't puddle in them any more |
| 17:56.11 | Cairenn|afk | I don't know why, and I don't know which one, or both |
| 17:56.16 | Cairenn|afk | I can't manage to catch them at it |
| 17:56.19 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear... litterbox behavior is tough to crack. |
| 17:56.31 | Cairenn|afk | they've used them for years though! |
| 17:56.46 | Cairenn|afk | it's not like they are kittens and brand new to the house |
| 17:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | Did anything at all change recently for them, to... ahem... piss them off? |
| 17:57.12 | Cairenn|afk | not to my knowledge |
| 17:57.15 | Lunessa | Or, are they feuding? Or is one ill? |
| 17:57.23 | Cairenn|afk | no, on both counts |
| 17:58.07 | Lunessa | Did you change litter brands lately? |
| 17:58.18 | Cairenn|afk | I love them both, and the idea of getting rid of them makes me want to cry, but what the hell am I going to do? I can't have them being dirty |
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| 17:58.30 | Cairenn|afk | nope, same litter, same food, same water, same litter boxes |
| 17:58.36 | Cairenn|afk | nothing has changed |
| 17:58.53 | Lunessa | :/ Going to have to catch them in the act. |
| 17:59.01 | GnancyWK | cats = http://www.xkcd.com/c231.html of course |
| 17:59.02 | Lopeppeppy | You sure there's not a urinary irritation involved then? |
| 17:59.28 | Cairenn|afk | well, that's the next thing I'm going to have to do, is take them into the vet to get checked, but it's so frigging expensive |
| 17:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... unless you can set up some way to catch them at it, you'd have to take both, which sucks. |
| 17:59.59 | Cairenn|afk | AND - if it were something like that, my having moved the litter box up out of the basement to the front hall right beside where they've been doing it should have fixed it, yes? no |
| 18:00.08 | Cairenn|afk | they still puddle on the floor, right beside the litter box |
| 18:00.09 | Cide | GnancyWK: was trying to find that but google wouldn't let me in =/ |
| 18:00.36 | GnancyWK | heh I have that memorized almost |
| 18:01.45 | Lopeppeppy | Litter behaviors are hard to crack, Cairenn. You have my sympathies. |
| 18:02.00 | Cairenn|afk | anyway, sorry, didn't mean to devolve the channel to a discussion about my cats' litter habits |
| 18:02.15 | Cairenn|afk | I'm just ready to wring their scrawny little necks though |
| 18:02.20 | Lopeppeppy | Nah... 's gotta have some conversation sometimes! *hug* |
| 18:02.29 | Lunessa | But cats are love. |
| 18:02.37 | Cairenn|afk | I know, that's why I haven't |
| 18:02.44 | Lopeppeppy | And the channel always needs love. |
| 18:02.57 | GnancyWK | have you tried a self cleaning box Cairenn|afk? |
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| 18:03.17 | Cairenn|afk | GnancyWK: nope, I'm worried it would completely freak them out |
| 18:03.43 | GnancyWK | hmm my cat is quite the scaredy cat type |
| 18:03.45 | Cairenn|afk | the sound of the motor, it all of a sudden moving on them - and they decide they won't use it to mess in either? that would be even worse |
| 18:04.03 | GnancyWK | it took him a whole day but he got used to it |
| 18:04.27 | GnancyWK | but he was very vocal about it the first day and he usally isnt |
| 18:04.28 | clad|away | Legorol: Thanks, loadstring fixed |
| 18:04.54 | GnancyWK | after that its really great |
| 18:05.19 | Lunessa | Lopeeppeppy: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174628187&sid=1 |
| 18:07.49 | clad|away | Legorol: Worst that could happen is you'd nuke the bot, couldn't "hurt" anything =) |
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| 18:43.01 | Antiarc|Work | Anyone here familiar with the Gurtogg Bloodboil encounter? |
| 18:43.03 | Antiarc|Work | I just need to know if the full name of his knockaway is "Eject" |
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| 18:52.56 | Lunessa | :sigh: Why even bother reading my realm forums? It's just the same old ex-pat transferees talking the same old worthless mack. |
| 18:53.04 | ninohax | o: |
| 18:53.32 | zenzelezz | isn't that what all realm forums are like? |
| 18:53.33 | TS|Skrom_ | heh |
| 18:54.11 | Lunessa | I hold out hope that a real community will form, but basically.. pointless. |
| 18:54.31 | ninohax | Does anyone know of a way to delay a certain function? Like say a chat response to certain guild members? I don't want the message to shoot directly back within a tenth of a second :c |
| 18:55.41 | MentalPower|ZzzZ | OnUpdate |
| 18:55.46 | ninohax | Thank you |
| 18:56.22 | TS|Skrom_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=116483487&postId=1745027468&sid=1#14 ftw |
| 18:56.31 | Kaso | assuming you arent using a framework that provides timing packages, (ace, chronos, etc) ninohax |
| 18:57.53 | Lunessa | TS|Skrom_: LOL? |
| 18:58.40 | ninohax | I just have 2 lines of code Kaso |
| 18:58.49 | ninohax | I can show you them if you want, it's very simple :/ |
| 18:58.57 | TS|Skrom_ | :-) |
| 18:59.05 | Kaso | its alright, i think i understand |
| 18:59.26 | ninohax | is there any other way other than onupdate? |
| 18:59.41 | Kaso | to use an onupdate you're gonna have to create a frame, and give it and onupdate handler, then have some table to whole a job-queue which you then add timed items to or something |
| 18:59.51 | ninohax | oooooh |
| 18:59.53 | ninohax | alright |
| 18:59.57 | Kaso | Without borrowing other's code in the form of liberaries nope |
| 19:00.06 | ninohax | damn :s |
| 19:00.11 | ninohax | this looks more complex than i hoped for |
| 19:00.18 | TS|Skrom_ | to summarize what I was told the other day, without using onupdate you are likely to freeze the entire interface for teh duration of your simulated sleep() |
| 19:00.49 | ninohax | lol |
| 19:00.54 | Mikk | you don't have to have an entire "job queue" tho if your addon is singlepurpose |
| 19:01.33 | TS|Skrom_ | Lunessa what was the "?" for? I think I was pretty straight forward :D |
| 19:01.42 | Kaso | well the sound of what he does the timed event is in responce to a third party event, so if a second event comes in whilst the first is still pausing you'd need a queue would you not |
| 19:01.42 | Mikk | Just do "whenToFire = GetTime() + 5" |
| 19:01.55 | Mikk | And in the OnUpdate test "if GetTime() > whenToFire then" |
| 19:02.09 | Mikk | well yeah. assuming you want a queue :> |
| 19:02.10 | Lunessa | I was using it to indicate that I didn't know if I really should be laughing, even though I was. |
| 19:02.17 | TS|Skrom_ | heh |
| 19:02.25 | TS|Skrom_ | always, always laugh at the expense of those less fortunate |
| 19:02.28 | TS|Skrom_ | er wait |
| 19:02.36 | TS|Skrom_ | damn, there goes my "humanitarian of the year award" |
| 19:02.38 | cog|work | Is there ever a time where UnitIsDead("target") ~= (UnitIsCorpse("target") or UnitIsGhost("target")) |
| 19:02.44 | TS|Skrom_ | 9 freakin' straight years |
| 19:03.01 | TS|Skrom_ | UnitIsZombie("target") |
| 19:03.21 | MentalPower | cog|work: hunters? |
| 19:03.24 | TS|Skrom_ | although that might fall under UnitIsCorpse("target") |
| 19:03.39 | cog|work | MentalPower: good point... |
| 19:03.47 | TS|Skrom_ | except |
| 19:04.10 | TS|Skrom_ | Feigned hunters come back Dead to opposing factions and Feigned to people in party |
| 19:04.18 | TS|Skrom_ | UnitIsFeigned |
| 19:04.20 | TS|Skrom_ | or something |
| 19:04.37 | cog|work | right... they just changed that last patch or something... |
| 19:04.43 | TS|Skrom_ | yeah |
| 19:04.51 | TS|Skrom_ | recently |
| 19:05.30 | TS|Skrom_ | UnitIsFeignDeath("unit") |
| 19:06.06 | TS|Skrom_ | Corpse == Dead doesn't it? |
| 19:06.12 | TS|Skrom_ | if you aren't dead you are alive or ghost |
| 19:06.29 | TS|Skrom_ | or is Dead true if you are ghost as well? |
| 19:06.39 | TS|Skrom_ | Oh! |
| 19:06.46 | Lunessa | TS| Skrom: "The heavenly father says he can get me out of this, but h's pretty sure you're f--ked" |
| 19:06.56 | Mikk | feel free to document properly on wowwiki after testing |
| 19:07.36 | Lunessa | I really should get an account on WoWWiki. |
| 19:07.42 | TS|Skrom_ | UnitIsCorpse("playerpet") = false and UnitIsDead("playerpet") is true when you start rezzing pet with revive pet and then cancel the cast |
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| 19:09.32 | TS|Skrom_ | the body disappears at the start of the cast but doesn't appear til you are finished |
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| 19:10.52 | malreth | I'M BORED! |
| 19:11.17 | TS|Skrom_ | although cog, that's not exactly what you asked since you specified "target" |
| 19:11.19 | malreth | you there, abug. entertain me with your song and dance. i command it. |
| 19:11.27 | TS|Skrom_ | Lunessa :D |
| 19:13.23 | Lunessa | ~foodfight |
| 19:13.23 | purl | ACTION throws a tomato at lunessa |
| 19:13.31 | Lunessa | ACK! |
| 19:13.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:14.36 | cog|work | TS|Skrom_: what if you're targeting your pet? I suppose since it despawns you'd no longer have a target at that point... |
| 19:14.43 | TS|Skrom_ | yep |
| 19:15.03 | TS|Skrom_ | That's the only thing I can think of atm that can be dead, but not corpse or ghost |
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| 19:25.18 | Lunessa | Kill 'em all, let the code sort them out? |
| 19:25.39 | TS|Skrom_ | haha |
| 19:27.34 | TS|Skrom_ | okay wow I've not played my priest in so long, and I just died on my first pve fight XD |
| 19:27.39 | TS|Skrom_ | i suxor |
| 19:28.40 | Lunessa | TS|Skrom_: /agree |
| 19:28.51 | TS|Skrom_ | oh, maybe i shoulda buffed before fighting |
| 19:30.23 | Lunessa | Need pointers? I'm a pretty good PVE preist. |
| 19:30.49 | TS|Skrom_ | sure, I'm 23, :P |
| 19:31.06 | Mikk | :P |
| 19:31.59 | Mikk | Seriously tho.. shield up, sw:pain, smitespam |
| 19:32.00 | Mikk | win |
| 19:32.04 | Cide | http://www.thewsvg.com/external/live_stream.php -- 3v3 arenas live from wsvg in dallas. pretty fun to watch if you're bored |
| 19:32.53 | Lunessa | The best advice ... don't f'ing solo. |
| 19:34.09 | Mikk | priests are some of the best multitarget haxers though |
| 19:34.09 | Mikk | MC, fear, dots |
| 19:35.53 | Lunessa | While leveling, go shadow deep enough to get Mind Flay. It's very good for grinding. |
| 19:37.10 | Mikk | And don't stop when you get there either :P |
| 19:37.19 | Mikk | gogo all-out shadow all the way to VT |
| 19:38.20 | Mikk | especially now where non-outland instancing is basically unheard of |
| 19:38.31 | Mikk | well ok people do go to like SM .. |
| 19:38.35 | Mikk | but you can heal that with any spec |
| 19:39.18 | Lunessa | Yeah, leveling to 56 I was a mixed spec. From 56-60 I did Shadow. |
| 19:39.31 | Lunessa | At 60, I did disc/holy after the talent review. |
| 19:39.42 | Lunessa | And I stayed Disc/Holy all the way to 70. |
| 19:39.50 | TS|Skrom_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.08 | Mikk | either shield up |
| 19:40.14 | Mikk | or only flay until the mob starts hitting you |
| 19:40.26 | Mikk | (finish with dot + MB + wand) |
| 19:40.27 | Lunessa | The fear and flay |
| 19:40.51 | Mikk | personally i open with VT + SW:P while running backwards. Then flay until the mob is hitting me. Then MB + wand. |
| 19:41.46 | Lunessa | That works too. |
| 19:42.11 | Mikk | but, yeah, you don't want to try and flay if something's hitting you and you don't have a shield up |
| 19:42.13 | Mikk | that's just a waste of mana |
| 19:43.38 | Lunessa | Yeah = Channel + Taking Damage = Dumb. |
| 19:53.35 | Legorol | clad|away: how did we manage to nil out setfenv in the global env? |
| 19:53.49 | Legorol | i beleive the exact line was: lua> setfenv({}) |
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| 20:10.28 | TS|Skrom_ | oh my you are right, mind flay is very nice for grinding |
| 20:10.33 | TS|Skrom_ | so very mana efficient <3 |
| 20:10.54 | [dRaCo] | so very... blue. |
| 20:15.43 | Kaso | mind flay is only mana efficent when you have shield up though |
| 20:15.48 | Kaso | otherwise it sucks for grinding |
| 20:16.54 | Mikk | or the mob is feared |
| 20:17.04 | Mikk | or the mob is slooooowly runnign toward you |
| 20:17.04 | Corrodias | the best solution is to roll druid |
| 20:17.31 | foxlit|Mac | What's that? :) |
| 20:18.34 | TS|Skrom_ | Corrodias I have one of those too :D |
| 20:19.24 | foxlit|Mac | #char EU Emerald Dream Atreju |
| 20:19.25 | Foxbot | foxlit|Mac: Atreju, Level 70 Druid (47/0/14). 8444 HP; 8675 Mana; +11.73% spell hit; +197 spell crit rating; 974 +dmg. |
| 20:19.27 | ThraeBot | foxlit|Mac: Atreju, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (47/0/14). 8444 HP; 8675 Mana; 439 Int; 228 Spi; 2211 Armour; 57 mp5; +11.73% spell hit; +4.16% melee crit; +197 spell crit rating; 974 +spell dmg; 1005 +heal. |
| 20:19.39 | foxlit|Mac | Oh growl, foxbot is still here |
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| 20:20.06 | TS|Skrom_ | Boomkin! |
| 20:20.30 | foxlit|Mac | Boomkin! |
| 20:20.41 | foxlit|Mac | It's so funny when shadow priests ask for innervates |
| 20:23.10 | Mikk | that's a bit rich yeah |
| 20:23.23 | Mikk | though to their defense, it's better giving it to them than to the mage or warlock |
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| 20:23.43 | Kaso | Getting an innverate when you have Spirit tap up is sexyness |
| 20:23.50 | foxlit|Mac | Their spirit regen sort of sucks :) |
| 20:24.08 | foxlit|Mac | So you sort of end up hoping VT will return enough mana to make it worthwhile |
| 20:24.12 | Mikk | Yeah. But at least them getting more mana -> other casters getting more mana |
| 20:24.57 | foxlit|Mac | I can't imagine when a shadowpriest would be in a position to get an innervate while spirit tap is up :) |
| 20:25.14 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/spirit.jpg |
| 20:25.25 | Kaso | i know it never really happens |
| 20:25.32 | Kaso | but when you stack, it gets some crazy results |
| 20:25.43 | Mikk | lal |
| 20:25.56 | Mikk | full mana in 7 secs ftw |
| 20:26.25 | Mikk | the faire regen trinket + innervate has similarly sick results |
| 20:26.51 | TS|Skrom_ | :O |
| 20:26.56 | foxlit|Mac | New alliance rerolls should be pretty much exclusively draenei |
| 20:27.20 | TS|Skrom_ | unless you wanna play a rogue :D |
| 20:27.26 | TS|Skrom_ | or lock |
| 20:27.31 | Mikk | or druid |
| 20:27.34 | foxlit|Mac | Talking priests :) |
| 20:27.48 | foxlit|Mac | Both a fear ward and another imba regen buff |
| 20:28.45 | Mikk | Hm, no, the DS mana regen buff is a recurring buff that leaves combatlog traces isn't it |
| 20:28.51 | Corrodias | stack of bills had been DEFEATED |
| 20:29.10 | foxlit|Mac | I wish they'd boost AI |
| 20:29.30 | foxlit|Mac | Stat bonus is sort of weak compared to say PW:F |
| 20:30.08 | Mikk | Mmyeah it's relatively weak compared to the cost |
| 20:30.34 | Mikk | And/or compared to the % boost at 60 in blues |
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| 20:30.56 | foxlit|Mac | Druid benefits from int are imba :) |
| 20:31.08 | Corrodias | balance/restoration would be my PvP spec of choice |
| 20:39.48 | Corrodias | i'll be running three database site addons now. goodbye, memory! |
| 20:40.03 | Corrodias | since i have the system resources, i should contribute. |
| 20:40.19 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
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| 20:57.51 | TS|Skrom_ | shadow priests can have passive 25% damage increase with an additional 10% situational? |
| 20:58.14 | Josh_Borke | 15 with 10? |
| 20:58.17 | Josh_Borke | how you get 25%? |
| 20:58.35 | TS|Skrom_ | 15 from shadowform, 10 darkness + 10 from shadow weaving |
| 20:58.40 | TS|Skrom_ | +5% stacked from misery |
| 20:58.42 | Cide | 10% darkness, 15% shadowform, 5% misery, 10% shadow weaving |
| 20:58.49 | Cide | >>> 1.1*1.15*1.05 |
| 20:58.49 | Cide | Cide: 1.32825 |
| 20:58.53 | Cide | >>> 1.1*1.15*1.05*1.1 |
| 20:58.53 | Cide | Cide: 1.461075 |
| 20:58.55 | Josh_Borke | oh, damage increase |
| 20:58.56 | Josh_Borke | got it |
| 20:59.01 | Lunessa | Shadow Priest DMG = hawt |
| 20:59.09 | TS|Skrom_ | didn't see misery til after I said the first line ;-) |
| 20:59.18 | TS|Skrom_ | yeah that's pretty hawt indeed |
| 20:59.40 | Josh_Borke | #char US Stormreaver dagh |
| 20:59.40 | ThraeBot | Josh_Borke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/2/45). 6361 HP; 7860 Mana; 368 Int; 1208 Armour; 24 mp5; +4.36% spell hit; +94 spell crit rating; 694 +spell dmg/heal; +179 frost dmg (873); +179 shadow dmg (873). (545m old) |
| 20:59.45 | Josh_Borke | where's me link? |
| 20:59.50 | TS|Skrom_ | specially considering the 5% from misery helps everyone |
| 21:00.01 | TS|Skrom_ | well, all casters anyway |
| 21:01.54 | Corrodias | actually, the numbers i was getting from our shadow priest were not all that high in karazhan compared to our other dpsers, but of course that's partly because of the way they generate a ton of mana for the other casters |
| 21:02.27 | Corrodias | our boomkin really gets to let loose with a shadow priest and a paladin around |
| 21:02.31 | TS|Skrom_ | could it also be aggro concerns? |
| 21:02.45 | Corrodias | could be, if they have no threat reduction talents |
| 21:03.00 | TS|Skrom_ | 40% extra damage tossing some mind blasts in between other spells could build up some sick threat XD |
| 21:03.15 | Lunessa | yeah, but imagine this... A big hit from Smite is .. mmmm 800 damage. And it's 1.5 seconds and has to be squeezed in between heals. A Shadow Priest is doing that much, + healing or generating mana in the same time. |
| 21:03.49 | Josh_Borke | no threat reduction |
| 21:04.16 | TS|Skrom_ | need a suggestion on my 15th shadow point :D Spirit Tap, SW:P, Shadow Affinity, 3/5 shadow focus, mind flay |
| 21:04.50 | Cide | shadow priests really shouldn't use VE anymore |
| 21:05.44 | Josh_Borke | Cide: why no VE? |
| 21:05.51 | Josh_Borke | it lets me SW:D |
| 21:06.02 | Cide | well, it's still useful in some fights |
| 21:06.10 | Corrodias | not when soloing, but definitely on bosses |
| 21:06.12 | Cide | but it also causes way too much aggro, especially in long fights |
| 21:06.21 | Cide | I'm only talking raid bosses |
| 21:06.24 | Corrodias | oh, hmm... |
| 21:06.27 | Cide | it shouldn't be used on long fights |
| 21:06.33 | Corrodias | is VE the one that returns health? |
| 21:06.36 | Josh_Borke | i can see that |
| 21:06.37 | Cide | yes |
| 21:06.56 | Josh_Borke | it's not really needed either |
| 21:07.03 | Josh_Borke | except in some fights |
| 21:07.17 | Corrodias | it can be useful on the Curator |
| 21:07.22 | Josh_Borke | it's not modified by any threat reduces is it? |
| 21:07.25 | Cide | Josh_Borke: nope |
| 21:07.32 | Cide | Corrodias: possibly |
| 21:07.33 | Josh_Borke | which is the problem |
| 21:07.35 | Corrodias | but then, he's probably DPSing the flares most of the time, in which case it isn't! |
| 21:07.49 | Josh_Borke | shadow priest on flares = sad shadow priest |
| 21:07.51 | Cide | depends on which strategy you're running with, but yeah |
| 21:07.56 | Cide | shadow priests need a static target |
| 21:08.01 | Cide | to be effective |
| 21:08.11 | Josh_Borke | MF, crap, out of reach |
| 21:08.12 | Josh_Borke | MB |
| 21:08.14 | Josh_Borke | crap, cooldown |
| 21:08.16 | Josh_Borke | wand |
| 21:08.25 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.32 | Josh_Borke | /sad spriest |
| 21:08.38 | MentalPower | #char US Alleria Mentak |
| 21:08.49 | Cide | go alleria! |
| 21:08.54 | MentalPower | indeed! |
| 21:08.55 | Beladona | hasta manana |
| 21:08.59 | Josh_Borke | bye bye |
| 21:09.00 | Cide | was my original server |
| 21:09.02 | MentalPower | Cide: traitor :P |
| 21:09.13 | Cide | horde or alliance? |
| 21:09.14 | Josh_Borke | bye bye all |
| 21:09.20 | MentalPower | you were horde I'm alliance |
| 21:09.29 | Cide | yeah.. our guild broke up =/ |
| 21:09.29 | MentalPower | best horde guild for a while |
| 21:09.36 | Cide | yup :) |
| 21:09.43 | Josh_Borke | cide:=( |
| 21:10.05 | MentalPower | you guys teamed-up so that Risen would not be able to open the gates, it was nice |
| 21:10.19 | Cide | that was awesome |
| 21:10.30 | Cide | they ended up giving us their fragments iirc |
| 21:10.59 | MentalPower | yup |
| 21:11.26 | Cide | sadly, after some 16 hours of farming, I could never enjoy silithus after that |
| 21:11.37 | MentalPower | :| |
| 21:12.00 | Cide | hehe, the aq gate opening quest was really cool overall though |
| 21:12.00 | MentalPower | how many bugs did you kil? |
| 21:12.09 | MentalPower | kill* |
| 21:12.10 | Cide | no idea really |
| 21:12.25 | Cide | we had 40 people in silithus for 24 hours straight probably |
| 21:12.49 | Cide | and on alliance side there were even more I'm sure |
| 21:13.28 | Cide | noone really knew how far you'd have to get your rep up in order to continue either =/ |
| 21:13.36 | Arrowmaster | i want to try killing those collossus again =( |
| 21:14.43 | Cide | so 200 fragments = 200 mobs iirc |
| 21:14.47 | Cide | 200 fragments = 500 rep |
| 21:15.27 | MentalPower | I believe that Alleria was the only one of the top 10 servers that did not crash when opening actually happenned |
| 21:15.32 | Cide | yup |
| 21:16.03 | MentalPower | partly due to the fact that you guys kept the time you were going to do it to yourselves |
| 21:16.20 | Cide | yeah, it was a pretty ugly thing to do |
| 21:16.22 | Arrowmaster | ekuranius was fun, half the server in moonglade |
| 21:16.49 | Cide | yeah, that was cool |
| 21:17.01 | MentalPower | hehe, that one *did* crash Kalimdor in our server |
| 21:17.20 | Cide | some 3-4 times |
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| 21:19.04 | Arrowmaster | on my server we had all the horde inside one building and all the alliance inside another, and the guild that was doing the event outside |
| 21:19.22 | Arrowmaster | still was so laggy people died before they know what hit them |
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| 21:24.03 | Cide | haha, yep |
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| 21:43.04 | foxlit | Bah, Boot Camp has an odd policy of "Hah, I told you that, but did you listen?" |
| 21:43.45 | Lunessa | Huh, I have that policy too. |
| 21:44.19 | foxlit | Although SP2 install errors out i nthe most amusing way |
| 21:44.39 | foxlit | "Setup requires an additional 4 megabytes of free space" (at this point, c: has 28 GB free) |
| 21:45.34 | Mikk | multiple of 4 gigs ftl |
| 21:45.51 | Mikk | make a 10 meg file |
| 21:45.52 | Mikk | tadaa. works. |
| 21:45.54 | foxlit | mm? |
| 21:46.14 | Mikk | It retreives disk space as a 32-bit number |
| 21:46.25 | Mikk | Which only has room for numbers up to 4 gigs |
| 21:46.47 | Mikk | so, 4.1, 8.1, 12.1, 16.1, 20.1, 24.1, 28.1, 32.1 gigs will all look like 0.1 gigs |
| 21:46.47 | Corrodias | well it's just SO EASY to mistake '%' for '-' |
| 21:49.25 | foxlit | What does that, anyway? :) |
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| 22:43.36 | cog|work | too quiet in here... |
| 22:43.37 | cog|work | http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1166653982-kitten-bestever.b.jpg |
| 22:44.02 | Mikk | o m f g |
| 22:44.07 | Mikk | that's gotta be criminal |
| 22:44.34 | deltron | http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=24005 |
| 22:44.42 | cog|work | Mikk: ?? |
| 22:45.18 | Mikk | kittens simply are not allowed to be that cute |
| 22:50.42 | foxlit | So what the easiest way to get a working live BC client now? |
| 22:50.56 | foxlit | I could reinstall from original media, but I have a feeling it'd want updates anyway |
| 22:51.14 | cog|work | pfft... who reinstalls wow? |
| 22:51.25 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:51.34 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:51.50 | nevcairiel | i would install base client, base BC, and then patch with my local patch mirrors :P |
| 22:52.17 | cog|work | I just keep it on a separate hard drive... |
| 22:52.26 | cog|work | it doesn't really need to be installed |
| 22:52.31 | Mikk | So .. erm... those guys with the vent terrorist.... do they not know how to look in their vent client and see which nick glows green and then hit mute? |
| 22:52.51 | foxlit | cog|work: I can't quite do that in this case |
| 22:53.28 | Mikk | foxlit: get someone to put up a zip dump of their client dir. download. unzip. run. |
| 22:53.45 | foxlit | Uhh :) |
| 22:53.45 | Kaso | Mikk i find the issue is that as soon as someone starts spamming on vent, everyone else goes "oh what the fuck man" etc that makes it hard when you have 5 or 6 green lights |
| 22:53.49 | Mikk | or just download from blizzard |
| 22:54.03 | foxlit | Yeah, probably going to end up picking a torrent |
| 22:54.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:54.11 | sag_ich_nicht | okay someone willing to helm |
| 22:54.14 | sag_ich_nicht | argh |
| 22:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | *okay someone willing to help me a bit here? :O |
| 22:54.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm having problems with some addon randomly tainting TargetUnit() |
| 22:54.55 | Mikk | foxlit: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/bc-splash.htm |
| 22:55.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i have no idea where it's coming from since it's occuring randomly and i couldn't reproduce what is causing it yet |
| 22:55.27 | foxlit | Wouldn't that be a vanilla->bc patch? |
| 22:55.45 | Mikk | dunno. go look? |
| 22:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and of course the error text isn't very useful because it's laying the blame on sea, but the taint must have occured earlier >.> |
| 22:55.59 | Mikk | i'm pretty sure there's complete downloads also |
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| 22:56.35 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: find in files: TargetUnit in the AddOns directory and subfolders |
| 22:56.40 | Mikk | No addon should be using TargetUnit any more |
| 22:56.42 | Mikk | So any hit is suspect |
| 22:56.52 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 22:56.52 | sag_ich_nicht | k |
| 22:57.26 | sag_ich_nicht | wtb proper search function that isn't broken in windows |
| 22:57.56 | Mikk | bah, integrated Find works just fine in winbloze |
| 22:58.00 | Mikk | atleast in 2k it does |
| 22:58.06 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah maybe on your system |
| 22:58.07 | Mikk | dunno whatever happened when they added puppies and shit |
| 22:58.14 | zenzelezz | it works, but it does not work "fine" |
| 22:58.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't think you have a system as complex as mine |
| 22:58.23 | sag_ich_nicht | also what zenzelezz said |
| 22:58.26 | zenzelezz | like searching in files is hit and miss |
| 22:58.32 | sag_ich_nicht | what i meant with proper search function |
| 22:58.48 | sag_ich_nicht | is "full text recursive regex search" |
| 22:58.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 22:59.27 | Mikk | oh. that slow =) |
| 22:59.35 | sag_ich_nicht | and the windows search is slow as hell |
| 22:59.45 | sag_ich_nicht | if i were to boot my debian install in vmware |
| 22:59.48 | sag_ich_nicht | copy over my addon folder |
| 22:59.51 | foxlit | windows search is fine! |
| 22:59.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and then use find to find it there |
| 23:00.01 | sag_ich_nicht | it would be faster than using the windows search |
| 23:00.03 | foxlit | Although you have to hack at it to get it to pick up .lua |
| 23:00.09 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: just go download grep.exe |
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| 23:00.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: i have gnuwin32 ty |
| 23:00.33 | Mikk | what are you complaining about then :P |
| 23:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | grep broke last time i tried using it under windows tough |
| 23:00.46 | Mikk | eh |
| 23:00.48 | Mikk | ookay |
| 23:01.14 | Mikk | unxutils.sourceforget.net <- gogo grab standalone win32 binaries. none of that gnuwin32 horridness. |
| 23:01.37 | Mikk | why do i always type an extra t after sourceforge? |
| 23:01.39 | sag_ich_nicht | gnuwin32 IS standalone win32 binaries. |
| 23:01.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you are confusing that with cygwin |
| 23:01.58 | sag_ich_nicht | which is horrible. |
| 23:02.00 | Mikk | whoueps |
| 23:02.18 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 23:02.25 | sag_ich_nicht | not enough space in the buffer for grep to work :P |
| 23:02.36 | Mikk | hm.. i recognize that |
| 23:02.50 | foxlit | "forget" |
| 23:02.51 | Mikk | you get that a result of not using it right iirc |
| 23:03.12 | Mikk | except that error message is totally useless :P |
| 23:04.07 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 23:04.07 | Mikk | ... seems to work here :S |
| 23:04.16 | sag_ich_nicht | works here too |
| 23:04.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i guess grep doesn't want me to be lazy |
| 23:04.40 | sag_ich_nicht | since i tend to just .\*whati'mlookingfor.\* |
| 23:05.04 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 23:05.33 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar |
| 23:06.08 | sag_ich_nicht | damagemeters is tainting TargetUnit() |
| 23:06.12 | sag_ich_nicht | fix it. |
| 23:06.18 | Mikk | er |
| 23:06.38 | Mikk | the only targetunit i see in DM has a "--" in front of it |
| 23:06.39 | AnduinLothar | no it isen't |
| 23:06.49 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.53 | AnduinLothar | l2debug |
| 23:07.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm tired |
| 23:07.08 | sag_ich_nicht | and my console output is broken |
| 23:07.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i see -- everywhere |
| 23:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | blame windows |
| 23:10.30 | sag_ich_nicht | apologizes, AnduinLothar |
| 23:10.32 | sag_ich_nicht | now |
| 23:11.04 | sag_ich_nicht | either i'm reading this wrong |
| 23:11.05 | sag_ich_nicht | RDX/Interactors.lua: Go = function(unit, cfg) TargetUnit(unit.uid); end |
| 23:11.05 | sag_ich_nicht | RDX/Interactors.lua: TargetUnit(unit.uid); |
| 23:11.13 | sag_ich_nicht | or i should really hurt Shirik |
| 23:11.25 | Mikk | It's just calling it though |
| 23:11.31 | Mikk | That shouldn't be causing taint |
| 23:11.48 | Mikk | It also won't _work_ since TargetUnit is protected :P |
| 23:12.07 | sag_ich_nicht | SpellCanTargetUnit is messing up my output quite a bit though |
| 23:12.25 | sag_ich_nicht | so i might as well be overlooking something |
| 23:12.38 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme pastey this |
| 23:13.10 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70417 |
| 23:13.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:11] <Mikk> It also won't _work_ since TargetUnit is protected :P <--thus i should still hurt him :P |
| 23:15.08 | Mikk | i'm not following |
| 23:15.14 | Mikk | how have you established that TargetUnit is tainted? |
| 23:15.19 | Mikk | what's the exact error? |
| 23:15.23 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 23:15.24 | sag_ich_nicht | actually. |
| 23:15.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i just found something |
| 23:15.37 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not actually tainting TargetUnit directly |
| 23:15.56 | sag_ich_nicht | somehow the /target slash command is causing this, if i use /tar it works just fine |
| 23:16.11 | Mikk | ebbeh |
| 23:16.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: Sea has been blocked from an action etc. etc., but it shouldn't be comming from Sea :P |
| 23:16.32 | Mikk | Nah, it'll be Sea dispatching an event to some addon |
| 23:17.04 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 23:17.18 | Mikk | So... what you're REALLY seeing |
| 23:17.20 | sag_ich_nicht | now why is some addon parsing my /target slash command? >.> |
| 23:17.30 | Mikk | Yeah |
| 23:17.43 | Mikk | Wait.. if you use /target, you get an error popup? |
| 23:17.47 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 23:17.55 | sag_ich_nicht | not a lua error, blocked error |
| 23:17.59 | sag_ich_nicht | not if i use /tar |
| 23:18.05 | sag_ich_nicht | or put /target in a macro |
| 23:18.07 | sag_ich_nicht | etc. |
| 23:18.13 | Mikk | Ok, so what's actually happened is that something has managed to taint the /target command |
| 23:18.18 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 23:18.21 | Mikk | Which shows up when it tried to TargetUnit() |
| 23:18.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i figured that already :P |
| 23:18.29 | Mikk | ok, that was a merry dance around the tree :P |
| 23:18.29 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 23:18.34 | Corrodias | okay, something keeps moving my chat frame up and down. how can i determine what's going it? :( |
| 23:18.38 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah well i only figured it out just now >.> |
| 23:19.49 | Mikk | scan your addons for SLASH_TARGET and /target |
| 23:20.06 | sag_ich_nicht | bad social mods! |
| 23:20.24 | sag_ich_nicht | and scanning for /target |
| 23:20.24 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 23:20.29 | sag_ich_nicht | lots and lots and lots of comment fields :P |
| 23:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | especially since i use lightheaded >.> |
| 23:21.55 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 23:22.08 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 23:22.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll just pastey it all |
| 23:22.12 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 23:23.11 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70418 |
| 23:23.23 | sag_ich_nicht | (now don't complain about all the lightheaded files, not my fault :P) |
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| 23:24.33 | Corrodias | there has to be a way... wait |
| 23:25.07 | Corrodias | maybe if i replace ChatFrame1:SetPoint() and the other movement methods with a function with a script error in it, i can look at the stack trace bugsack gives me to see what has been calling it |
| 23:26.06 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: nothing _obviously_ wrong with what you've grepped |
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| 23:26.36 | Corrodias | but i can't define the function in-game because it gives me an error while trying? |
| 23:26.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: yeah i think it might be socialmods though >.> |
| 23:27.00 | sag_ich_nicht | it's so old and broken |
| 23:29.06 | sag_ich_nicht | also it's the only thing there really interacting with Sea(but that says nothing, seen it all already ><) |
| 23:29.42 | Mikk | ohyea, Sea getting blamed should be a powerful clue |
| 23:29.57 | AnduinLothar | i dont use SocialMods and i dont have it tainted.. |
| 23:30.48 | Mikk | noone suggests Sea taints /target :P |
| 23:31.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab geowar |
| 23:31.08 | purl | ACTION runs at geowar with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 23:31.26 | Corrodias | okay, it's some Ace addon. the stack trace says the call is coming from AceEvent, but ends there. i need more... |
| 23:32.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Corrodias i take a guess and blame fubar |
| 23:32.07 | Mikk | Corrodias: Prat is in the list of suspects imo. If nothing else, interactions between Prat and some other addon trying to do the same thing. |
| 23:32.22 | Corrodias | prat? |
| 23:32.33 | Mikk | If you have it installed to begin with :> |
| 23:32.44 | Corrodias | nope |
| 23:33.02 | sag_ich_nicht | but that's just my biased opinion since fubar tends to move MainMenuBar all the time too if you move it somewhere other than the default position |
| 23:33.05 | Corrodias | some addon is using AceEvent to move my chat frame up and down and i'm sick of it |
| 23:33.07 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 23:33.09 | sag_ich_nicht | actually not fubar |
| 23:33.20 | sag_ich_nicht | actually JostleLib |
| 23:33.20 | Corrodias | oh, BRB |
| 23:33.29 | sag_ich_nicht | same problem though |
| 23:34.10 | AnduinLothar | JostleLib is evil |
| 23:34.35 | Mikk | hehe |
| 23:34.49 | AnduinLothar | it re-SetPoint's the main menu bar like ever second on a timer |
| 23:35.01 | AnduinLothar | every few seconds* |
| 23:35.41 | AnduinLothar | I just use FluidFrames to move whatever it moves so that it's permanently anchored, but it eats memory slowly |
| 23:36.17 | AnduinLothar | poorly coded imo |
| 23:36.29 | AnduinLothar | needs a :IsUserPlaced() |
| 23:37.10 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar go talk to ckknight about that :P |
| 23:37.15 | AnduinLothar | i've told him |
| 23:37.18 | sag_ich_nicht | he said he has other priorities |
| 23:37.20 | AnduinLothar | numerous times |
| 23:37.28 | sag_ich_nicht | you could just as well fix the code yourself and give him a patch |
| 23:37.36 | sag_ich_nicht | but you won't because you have other things to do as well |
| 23:38.13 | sag_ich_nicht | we conclude: you're both lazy, and i'm even lazier. |
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| 23:38.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:35] <+AnduinLothar> I just use FluidFrames to move whatever it moves so that it's permanently anchored, but it eats memory slowly <--so do i >.> |
| 23:39.42 | Corrodias | so let's see... |
| 23:39.52 | Corrodias | is there any way to determine what addon is using AceEvent to move it? |
| 23:40.56 | Corrodias | perhaps some kind of text search through my addons folder? setting up another deliberate script error? |
| 23:41.27 | Mikk | not really |
| 23:41.39 | Corrodias | Ace has burned me! >:o |
| 23:41.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Corrodias just check if disabling fubar fixes it. i point my finger at jostlelib, for no aparrent reason :P |
| 23:42.06 | Antiarc|Work | Binary search! |
| 23:42.18 | Mikk | if the addon does :ScheduleEvent(ChatFrame1.SetPoint, 5, ChatFrame1 ,....), there's no good way to track it |
| 23:42.22 | Corrodias | it doesn't constantly move it. i can't be sure at any time that something's trying to move it unless it does |
| 23:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 23:42.39 | sag_ich_nicht | that's kind of like my /target problem |
| 23:42.39 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 23:42.57 | Mikk | Except I suspect yours is a seahook |
| 23:44.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: i meant from the problem ocurrance |
| 23:44.25 | sag_ich_nicht | random, with no obvious cause :P |
| 23:47.24 | Corrodias | can i add some code to AceEvent to have it keep a list of addons that are utilizing it? |
| 23:47.38 | Corrodias | well, that'd be pointless, never mind |
| 23:48.02 | Mikk | that'll be every single ace addon yeah :P |
| 23:48.28 | Mikk | try grepping for ScheduleEvent.*SetPoint |
| 23:49.07 | Corrodias | k |
| 23:49.40 | Mikk | and ScheduleEvent.*ChatFrame |
| 23:50.12 | Mikk | hmm, actually |
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| 23:50.22 | Mikk | Schedule.*SetPoint and Schedule.*ChatFrame |
| 23:50.39 | Corrodias | tried ScheduleEvent.{0,200}SetPoint, not getting anything with that |
| 23:51.07 | Mikk | you're running with -E i hope then? |
| 23:51.20 | Corrodias | i'm using inforapid search & replace, not grep |
| 23:51.35 | Corrodias | pattern matching mode which includes operators like that |
| 23:51.36 | Mikk | kk =) |
| 23:53.08 | sag_ich_nicht | abug |
| 23:53.13 | sag_ich_nicht | you should probably link this here as well |
| 23:54.26 | abug | I did yesterday |
| 23:54.39 | abug | granted at like 8 am |
| 23:56.10 | sag_ich_nicht | nobody was going to read it back then :P |
| 23:58.33 | Corrodias | i wouldn't put it past JostleLib to be responsible |
| 23:58.45 | Corrodias | is that also the one that fails to move the minimap to accomodate fubar, sometimes? |
| 23:59.46 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 23:59.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also the one that resets the MainMenuBar position all the time if you moved it |
