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| 05:25.17 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | TC tells puns too, we have proof: "...we were..."Testing the waters" so to speak" |
| 05:28.36 | Corrodias | it just doesn't load. i'm dumbfounded. |
| 05:29.28 | Corrodias | i've logged out a couple of times just to check that it IS in fact checked in the addons menu, which it is |
| 05:29.49 | zenzelezz | afraid I'm out of ideas |
| 05:30.19 | Corrodias | a guildmate mentioned that his Quartz stopped working today, but he didn't say in what way and i can't talk to him now |
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| 05:36.21 | GofG | China is performing an organized DoS attack on the Department of Defense's DNS root server |
| 05:36.31 | GofG | Prepare for massive internet droppage |
| 05:38.09 | GofG | Okay, it's been a full minute and no one is panicking :( |
| 05:38.15 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 05:38.44 | Cide | news on the internet without a link following in 5 sec = false |
| 05:39.05 | GofG | I'm trying to start a panick |
| 05:39.08 | GofG | Panic |
| 05:39.11 | GofG | And it's not working |
| 05:39.25 | Cide | plus slashdot returns nothing |
| 05:39.30 | Cide | as such, it can't be true! |
| 05:39.45 | GofG | Haha |
| 05:39.51 | GofG | Well, I tried #macosx and #wikipedia |
| 05:40.04 | GofG | Macosx immediatly said "Ha. China couldn't do that even if they tried. Trust me. We have." |
| 05:40.14 | GofG | Wikipedia said "Well, at least it's not Willy On Wheels" |
| 05:40.16 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 05:40.19 | Cide | haha |
| 05:41.07 | GofG | I assume you guys know who Willy on Wheels is? |
| 05:41.24 | Corrodias | nope |
| 05:42.01 | GofG | The largest, most massive vandalbot on Wikipedia |
| 05:42.15 | GofG | He has more edits than all the editors on WP combined, I believe. |
| 05:42.23 | GofG | if you add up all the accounts he has |
| 05:44.00 | MentalPower | besides the DoD DNS server is just one of many |
| 05:45.12 | GofG | Right |
| 05:45.20 | GofG | one of 12, I believe |
| 05:45.28 | GofG | No, 13 |
| 05:46.12 | GofG | (#)A root name server is a [[Domain Name System|DNS]] server that answers requests for the root namespace domain, and redirects requests for a particular [[top-level domain]] (TLD) to that TLD's nameservers. Although any local implementation of DNS can implement its own private root name servers, the term "root name server" is generally used to describe the thirteen well-known root name servers that implement the root namespace domain for the [[Internet |
| 05:46.14 | GofG | Yeah, 13 |
| 05:46.44 | Thrae | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174759727&sid=1 <-- my suggestion post for the week. |
| 05:54.40 | Corrodias | remove the cooldown on hunter traps in arenas |
| 05:54.49 | Corrodias | boom, instant return of viability |
| 05:55.17 | Corrodias | or that's what some hunters would have us think, anyway. i don't know. |
| 06:12.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone a 375 fisher? |
| 06:12.22 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 06:12.32 | ScytheBlade1 | The random fishing enchants |
| 06:12.38 | ScytheBlade1 | STV - Fishbot 5000? |
| 06:12.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Once only, or repeatable? |
| 06:13.12 | zenzelezz | you mean that lure you get for the fishing pole? |
| 06:13.19 | zenzelezz | not lure, enchant |
| 06:13.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowwiki.com/High_Test_Eternium_Fishing_Line |
| 06:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And etc |
| 06:13.52 | zenzelezz | yeah, that one... I'm not sure actually, but I hope it's repeatable :-p |
| 06:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:14.11 | zenzelezz | haven't been bothered to go try to get a new one, so I'm still using my Big Iron Fishing Pole |
| 06:15.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I just got Seth's |
| 06:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Debating doing the fishing competition |
| 06:15.38 | zenzelezz | I'm not using another fishing pole until I get the Eternium Line again (if possible) =) |
| 06:18.02 | zenzelezz | hm, today is Sunday... maybe I should go and try to get it while I rememebr |
| 06:18.04 | zenzelezz | *remember |
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| 07:19.28 | Arrowmaster | the fishing contest rare fish stuff is all repeatable |
| 07:19.36 | Arrowmaster | ive gotten 4 fucking pairs of boots |
| 07:22.20 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 07:22.25 | zenzelezz | thanks for the info though :) |
| 07:23.03 | Arrowmaster | finally got a hat the other week |
| 07:23.14 | Arrowmaster | still need the fishing line for my arcanite fishing pole |
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| 07:27.46 | zenzelezz | heh, a hunter called "Bowjob"... |
| 07:30.30 | Zicon | Cute. |
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| 07:33.01 | rophy | is there any existing mod which have a calendar widget to select a date? |
| 07:33.07 | rophy | that I can steal the code from |
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| 07:46.17 | AnduinLothar | not afaik, but that would be a nifty lib |
| 07:47.40 | Kemayo | rophy: There are several guild event calendar mods out there -- I'd check them. |
| 07:48.41 | Corrodias | indeed, 'group calendar' is a likely candidate |
| 07:49.18 | Corrodias | and now i'm DAMN hungry |
| 07:49.19 | Corrodias | DAMN |
| 07:49.20 | Corrodias | HUNGRY |
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| 08:14.01 | Corrodias | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1183878372066.jpg |
| 08:14.36 | zenzelezz | lol |
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| 08:54.02 | zenzelezz | "Custodian of Time whispers: I will guide you through the caverns. Please try and keep up." -- that must be the most ironic statement I've seen, I could crawl and still keep up |
| 08:54.28 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.15 | Punkie` | Killing people just before the end is a bonus! |
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| 09:28.04 | Corrodias | this group agreed to take my little level 60 hunter into the Ramparts. i was pretty nervous about having my hunter's first real group performance be displayed in a PuG instead of a guild group which may be more... nurturing |
| 09:29.02 | Corrodias | then i notice a strange class combination: paladin, warlock, rogue, shaman, hunter. i ask who's tanking, assuming at first it's the paladin. but no, the paladin is healing. the current plan is to split the tanking between the rogue and my pet. i decided this probably wasn't the best plan and relogged to get my druid for them instead. :P |
| 09:31.36 | Corrodias | as new as i am to the hunter, and as newly tamed as my pet is (having only his attack abilities, no magic resistances or dash), i didn't feel comfortable trying to learn my group role THAT way. plus, even with a good hunter, it would have been a painful experience. |
| 09:31.52 | Corrodias | wait, 61, not 60 |
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| 09:41.47 | Thelyna | BM hunter pets can tank just fine :p |
| 09:42.11 | Thelyna | single-target anyway |
| 09:42.33 | JunkHead-Work | I got new gloves! |
| 09:42.47 | Corrodias | single-target, yes |
| 09:43.41 | Corrodias | but in the time it took me to realize what they were intending to do, we had two pulls. i observed a very loose kill order (and when i brought in my druid, it was confirmed that i couldn't keep them on track for more than one target out of the pull, if even that) |
| 09:44.26 | Corrodias | compounded with the lack of other CC, it just wasn't going to work. especially if you consider the 5-pull in the upstairs hallway, 4 mages and a melee |
| 09:45.27 | Corrodias | nah, worse would be the one with 3 humanoids and 2 beasts |
| 09:45.58 | Corrodias | maybe it's only 2 humanoids and 2 beasts... could have managed. didn't want to put up with it. |
| 09:47.02 | Corrodias | i do want to get more experience with my hunter, though. :d |
| 09:56.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh i have no clue how to setup my warrior's bars |
| 09:59.24 | Thelyna | mortal strike and execute are all you need. :p |
| 09:59.32 | Thelyna | for tanking the list is a little longer |
| 09:59.44 | zenzelezz | what role, what level? |
| 10:00.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | 18 atm |
| 10:00.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i mean, i'm planning for 70 so i can get used to it as i level |
| 10:01.05 | Corrodias | bear form for a druid is very simple |
| 10:01.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | like on my moonfire, wrath and moonfire have been 2 and 3 since i got the spells |
| 10:01.14 | Corrodias | i can see how playing a warrior can get quite a bit more complex |
| 10:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not that hard, really |
| 10:01.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just like |
| 10:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't really pick an order yet |
| 10:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and there's quite a few things that only work in certain stances |
| 10:02.08 | zenzelezz | I learned one thing from my warrior... planning the hotbars is tough; I just adjusted all the time |
| 10:02.23 | Corrodias | those things probably go on the stance-specific bars |
| 10:02.28 | zenzelezz | heck, I *still* have trouble |
| 10:02.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr |
| 10:02.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's some that work in 2 stances |
| 10:02.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not 3 |
| 10:02.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'm like |
| 10:02.39 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 10:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm...where do i put these |
| 10:02.51 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies2: macros, when there are alternatives |
| 10:02.58 | Corrodias | there is that |
| 10:03.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may end up doing like |
| 10:03.13 | Corrodias | you can try to match those up on the same buttons as ones that are only available in that third stance, but i know it's nuts |
| 10:03.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | [stance:1]Charge; Intercept |
| 10:03.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | type stuff |
| 10:03.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah at the moment i'm not sure about how good specific abilities are |
| 10:04.21 | zenzelezz | I have a "big" Charge/Intervene/Intercept macro, but don't keep it on a stance bar; on a general one |
| 10:04.50 | zenzelezz | bound to the I key anyhow (which made me unbind U) |
| 10:05.02 | zenzelezz | "oops, trouble" *opens Reputations window" FFS |
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| 10:57.49 | Corrodias | [asleep] |
| 11:02.17 | zenzelezz | clearly faked |
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| 11:27.06 | Corrodias | actually, i was just washing up for bed. but i realized i should come back to the computer and write up reminds to myself about how to trap as a hunter before i actually go to sleep. and let my hair dry a little. |
| 11:27.56 | Corrodias | i was a little nervous about main-tanking Prince Malchezaar tonight, but we got him |
| 11:28.39 | zenzelezz | he's not really hard to tank; the main thing (for me anyway) is that it can be hard to see where the infernals are landing |
| 11:28.47 | Corrodias | on the third try. first, too many people new to the fight getting caught by shadow nova. second, one of the healers quit healing for a while when the prince was at 40%. i'm not sure why he did that, but i went splat. |
| 11:28.48 | zenzelezz | I really don't see why they clip the camera on invisible walls |
| 11:29.16 | Corrodias | because non-blocked cameras are OP! :o |
| 11:29.50 | zenzelezz | you've got miles and miles of distance to the horizon, just stupid to not let you get a proper behind-camera :-| |
| 11:30.51 | zenzelezz | same issue with Nightbane, but there you have even less space |
| 11:31.57 | Corrodias | ah, we haven't started nightbane yet. we got a couple of attempts on netherspite this week, and i can see we need to get a LOT better on the phase transitions. |
| 11:32.13 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 11:32.30 | Corrodias | the green beam catcher took so long to grab it in cycle 2 phase 1 that he was back to 97% (from 80% according to somebody who was watching his health) |
| 11:32.56 | zenzelezz | he heals fast if you don't take the beam, yeah |
| 11:35.41 | Thelyna | we have everyone run away during the banish phase except the next red tank and next green healer |
| 11:35.57 | Thelyna | because they're standing there they can see the portals come up well before they open |
| 11:36.20 | Corrodias | amazing. the Quartz problem has been solved by removing the useless addon SupplyAndDemand, which i've always just assumed was a dependency of another addon |
| 11:36.22 | Thelyna | we also have the portal spots defined (from the hallway looking into the room) as left right and back |
| 11:36.36 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: O_o |
| 11:36.49 | Thelyna | which makes calling over vent/ts easy "red right green left blue back" |
| 11:37.23 | Corrodias | actually, as i was dragging netherspite back toward the door after the banish phase was over, i had PLENTY Of time to find my portal and get in the way such that the beam went right through me. this was because the other tank had already died along with multiple other people and we knew it was a wipe, so iwas just practicing. |
| 11:37.33 | Thrae | Corrodias: I think the only addon which used SupplyAndDemand was PerfectTargets 2.0 or earlier? |
| 11:37.49 | Corrodias | i really have no idea. :/ nothing i have NOW depends on it. |
| 11:37.56 | Thrae | Corrodias: Either way, SupplyAndDemand was an old LoD stub implementation |
| 11:38.09 | Thrae | Some of Tekkub's other addons might have used it |
| 11:38.18 | Thrae | PTarg 3.0 doesn't use it |
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| 11:52.08 | Corrodias | i didn't even know what a load manager is |
| 11:52.32 | Corrodias | why would i want any part of my casting bar addon to be load on demand? >:o |
| 11:52.37 | JunkHead-Work | It manages a load. |
| 11:53.30 | Corrodias | would it not load the addon until i start casting a spell? |
| 11:53.49 | Corrodias | but doesn't WoW manage loading LoD addons? |
| 11:54.47 | subbawt | isn't it commonly used for things like configuration frames and such? |
| 11:55.09 | Corrodias | i believe so, yeah. also instance-dependant things |
| 11:55.35 | Corrodias | like boss alert addons will make their instance-specific timer modules LoD, i think |
| 11:56.09 | Corrodias | maybe it doesn't work unless you have a load manager. *shrug* |
| 11:56.55 | Corrodias | i have enough system memory. i can live with that. and if load managers are NOT required, well, good. >_> |
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| 15:59.01 | rophy | I remember there was a mod which can let people queue AV together, what's the name? |
| 15:59.13 | rophy | attempts to queue at the same time |
| 16:00.42 | rophy | got it, StinkyQueue |
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| 18:13.05 | MoonWolf | WoWRadio is currently hosting an interview with 4 end game guild having a discussion about end game, find out more on http://www.wcradio.com/ |
| 18:17.02 | Kaso | Bold is fun! |
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| 18:30.37 | Fin | ITYM bold is fun |
| 18:31.00 | Fin | HTH |
| 18:33.40 | Shirik | ITYM? |
| 18:33.56 | Shirik | HTH? |
| 18:34.03 | Fin | I Think You Mean |
| 18:34.05 | Fin | Hope To Help |
| 18:34.45 | Shirik | o |
| 18:34.53 | Thrae | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174759727&sid=1 <-- please people, save the orphaned hispanic African-born quadriplegic children! |
| 18:34.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | -.- |
| 18:35.43 | Shirik | wow's site sucks on dialup |
| 18:35.52 | MoonWolf | oh yeah. |
| 18:35.53 | MoonWolf | that it does. |
| 18:35.56 | Shirik | but I ordered my cellular card today :D we'll see how well it works soon |
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| 18:42.58 | kaiden | Anyone know where this post is they are talking about from tigole on the wcradio stream? |
| 18:43.05 | kaiden | from the four horsement interview that's going on |
| 18:43.40 | MoonWolf | looking for it. |
| 18:44.05 | MoonWolf | it got deleted |
| 18:44.28 | MoonWolf | due to flaming after people found out there was blues posting. |
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| 18:45.26 | kaiden | darn :( |
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| 19:02.26 | wereHamster | who's tigole? |
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| 19:02.53 | wereHamster | (or what...) |
| 19:04.29 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 19:04.47 | Cide | tigole is one of the lead game developers |
| 19:04.53 | Cide | mostly in charge of raids and dungeons |
| 19:05.03 | Shirik | ... |
| 19:05.17 | Cide | ... |
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| 19:17.53 | Shirik | "Sprint is terminating the contracts of over 100 thousand customers whom call customer service too much (in some cases over 25 times a month)" |
| 19:19.23 | Punkie` | eh? |
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| 19:35.43 | Corrodias | interesting. well, i can't blame them. harassing the service. meh. |
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| 19:46.32 | Kaso | 100,000 customers? i can understand a few loanly and or angry people calling alot, but 100,000 ? |
| 19:47.30 | Shirik | it's what I heard :P |
| 19:47.37 | Kaso | any linkies? |
| 19:47.42 | Shirik | but we all know how reliable fox news is |
| 19:47.50 | Kaso | oh, fox, pssh |
| 19:48.37 | Shirik | not gonna go looking for it :P |
| 19:48.51 | Shirik | I'm spending all my bandwidth on verizon's site so I can get off dialup sometime before the next year |
| 19:59.03 | Corrodias | anybody familiar with quartz? there are two bars i can't find. one is the "swing" bar (as i don't know what that is) and one is the out of range indicator |
| 19:59.51 | [Ammo] | out of range indicator = turns teh casting bar white |
| 19:59.56 | [Ammo] | the 'swing bar' is the swing timer |
| 20:00.02 | [Ammo] | meaning if you're auto-attacking a mob |
| 20:00.07 | Shirik | yup |
| 20:00.12 | [Ammo] | it'll display a timerbar till your next hit |
| 20:00.32 | Shirik | though I don't know what this "swing" bar is |
| 20:00.35 | Shirik | the out of range indicator is really cool though |
| 20:00.42 | Corrodias | oh, interesting |
| 20:00.49 | Shirik | oh that's the swing bar? Must be like my autoshot bar |
| 20:01.05 | Shirik | it's really tiny, usually right below the casting bar |
| 20:01.05 | Shirik | looks like a little particle moving right |
| 20:01.27 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 20:01.39 | [Ammo] | you can make it larger ofcourse |
| 20:02.05 | Shirik | yeah I had to make it a bit bigger |
| 20:03.25 | Shirik | I was amazed by quartz when I picked it up though |
| 20:03.31 | Shirik | now I can't be without it ^^ |
| 20:05.38 | Shirik | ok, verizon's site officially sucks |
| 20:05.38 | Shirik | they took Web 2.0 to the whole next level |
| 20:05.48 | Shirik | and now it's impossible to use >< |
| 20:06.32 | haste | what I hate about most web 2.0 sites is how they make my browser eat CPU :( |
| 20:07.15 | Shirik | what I hate about this site is it makes you download like 10MB of a website |
| 20:07.18 | Shirik | before you can use any of it |
| 20:07.33 | Shirik | you have to download every. single. product. before you can do anything |
| 20:08.33 | haste | another thing about ajax, is the fact that it makes opening links in new tabs remotly impossible |
| 20:09.05 | haste | and the fact that I never know if the site is broken or just lagging |
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| 20:10.16 | Corrodias | okay, i need more macro slots. |
| 20:11.33 | Shirik | you can put your macros in my slots |
| 20:11.53 | Corrodias | yum |
| 20:11.56 | Corrodias | finish flighthud |
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| 20:12.13 | Shirik | I need internet first -_ |
| 20:13.02 | haste | I also need internet :( |
| 20:13.10 | haste | don't have routing beyond my ISPs backbone |
| 20:15.50 | Corrodias | gotta find SuperMacro |
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| 20:27.45 | Corrodias | looks like it may be woefully out of dage |
| 20:27.48 | Corrodias | date |
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| 20:44.51 | Corrodias | supermacro is just as i remember it! except that i doesn't let me edit my existing macros because the text box is empty. oops. :P |
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| 21:01.48 | Corrodias | does quartz's swing bar work for hunters' shooting? |
| 21:02.18 | [dRaCo] | afaik it only works correctly for 1 melee weapon |
| 21:20.31 | GofG | What is Quartz? |
| 21:20.39 | [dRaCo] | a castbar mod |
| 21:20.43 | GofG | ah |
| 21:21.24 | [dRaCo] | more or less... includes some timers for castable buffs and debuffs and stuff like bg start |
| 21:27.34 | kaiden | do it right draco, it's the ultimately configurable castbar mod |
| 21:27.35 | kaiden | :p |
| 21:28.36 | [dRaCo] | now you ruined his "wow, that's great!" moment. |
| 21:29.56 | kaiden | hehe |
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| 21:55.31 | ScytheBlade1 | What is a good DPS meter? |
| 21:55.37 | ScytheBlade1 | (Yes, DPS, not damage meter) |
| 21:55.39 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: it does |
| 21:56.08 | Cide | technically, damage meter = dps meter :P |
| 21:56.14 | Cide | just divide by time! |
| 21:56.20 | Thunder_Child | Violation is a good one |
| 21:56.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I essentially want one that only watches the last ten seconds or so of combat |
| 21:57.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Not averaging out the entire session |
| 21:57.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I had one before, can't remember what it is |
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| 22:09.37 | Kaso | like a moving average of the dps, sounds like it could be useful, not heard of one. |
| 22:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, pretty much |
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| 22:55.54 | Mystiq | http://wowi.pastey.net/70502 |
| 22:56.07 | Mystiq | supposed to show me a raid frame with just yourself in it, but nothing shows up, and there are no errors |
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| 23:04.40 | cladhaire | Mystiq: Whats happening, is you have a raid frame that has no attributes set |
| 23:04.42 | cladhaire | so its hidden |
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| 23:05.09 | cladhaire | Mystiq: Thus anything parented to it is hidden. You also don't need that code from PerfectRaid.. the header natively handles player now.. I haven't had an opportunity to update because my development machine is broken. |
| 23:06.15 | Mystiq | this is my third foray into wow addons, first time i just said f this, second time i found wowuides, which was ok, but very limited in frame creation :/ |
| 23:06.24 | Mystiq | the lack of documentation on some things is really irritating |
| 23:06.37 | cladhaire | Such as? |
| 23:06.49 | cladhaire | Something we might be able to help with? |
| 23:07.13 | cladhaire | (I can't help you with extensive documentation about writing wow addons until our book comes out in December) |
| 23:07.31 | cladhaire | start with something simple like this: |
| 23:07.51 | Mystiq | well for one you can just slap a unit frame any old place, whats the point of a raid frame, grouping? |
| 23:08.04 | Mystiq | and the difference between a raid frame and a regular frame? |
| 23:08.10 | cladhaire | well first |
| 23:08.19 | cladhaire | the difference between a "Secure frame" and not is relevant |
| 23:08.31 | cladhaire | a secure frame can cast spells and target (in this case) and non-secure frames cannot. |
| 23:08.39 | cladhaire | a secure frame cannot be created/hidden/shown in combat |
| 23:09.03 | cladhaire | so for example, a raid frame that is not secure, cannot add new frames if people join/leave the raid when you are in combat |
| 23:09.20 | cladhaire | so blizzard has some templates we can use that are considered "secure" and will handle that creation/hiding/showing for us |
| 23:09.25 | Mystiq | yeah, i got that part |
| 23:09.55 | cladhaire | the raid template allows you to have grouping and columns, and etc |
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| 23:10.05 | cladhaire | things you cant really do if you manually create a bunch of unit frames together |
| 23:10.13 | Mystiq | hah, i thought RDX was doing that manually |
| 23:10.36 | cladhaire | Its possible to do so, its just extremely nasty and has limitations. |
| 23:10.58 | cladhaire | are you familiar with dynamic frame creation at all? |
| 23:11.07 | cladhaire | cause raid headers are an extremely complex case of that. |
| 23:11.19 | Mystiq | only to the extent of the code in that paste i gave |
| 23:11.48 | cladhaire | do /script local f = CreateFrame("Frame") f:SetHeight(50) f:SetWidth(50) f:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 0, 0) f:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) f:Show() |
| 23:11.56 | cladhaire | that should make a simple frame in the center of your screen |
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| 23:13.06 | cladhaire | (I'm trying to think of a more simple example of the raid headers, the modularity of perfectraid makes it somewhat difficult to look at) |
| 23:13.41 | Mystiq | finding examples of things is something that put me off initially |
| 23:13.59 | cladhaire | Yeah, it can be difficult |
| 23:14.06 | cladhaire | That's why we're writing a book specifically about _it_ |
| 23:14.16 | Mystiq | but i basically have to now cuz teh copy of RDX i have will eventually break to the point i cant fix it, and i need a replacement |
| 23:14.16 | cladhaire | stuff I wish I had when I was first learning |
| 23:14.29 | cladhaire | Mystiq: Why cant you use rdx.cid? |
| 23:14.35 | cladhaire | Shirik updates it regularly along with Cidan |
| 23:14.58 | Mystiq | i didnt pay for it, a guild i was in had it, but that guild broke up and the guy went elsewhere |
| 23:15.16 | Mystiq | whats rdx.cid? |
| 23:15.27 | cladhaire | a free open version based off Rdx5 |
| 23:15.43 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5680-RDX.Cid.html\ |
| 23:15.45 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5680-RDX.Cid.html |
| 23:15.51 | Mystiq | ah, i got attached to RDX6, they tell me rdx5 means you have to knwo lua |
| 23:16.05 | cladhaire | Depends on specifically what you need/want from it |
| 23:16.21 | cladhaire | Shirik is the guy to talk to about this version, he's very responsive and he frequents this channel almost all the time |
| 23:16.28 | Mystiq | i had problems with RDX though, specifically the amount of CPU it crunches when all 40 frames are displaying |
| 23:17.04 | Mystiq | where's this book gonna be available? and when? |
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| 23:18.29 | Mystiq | i also find hte lack of comments in most add-on code to be unhelpful as well :P |
| 23:19.06 | Mystiq | i got into this horrible habit of commenting code since my first major personal project like 8 years ago |
| 23:19.10 | cladhaire | Mystiq: It won't be available until Christmas or so, I'm starting it this week, actually. |
| 23:19.32 | cladhaire | Mystiq: Most of my addons are well commented, but they assume a base level of knowledge about whats going on there, which can make it more difficult |
| 23:19.47 | cladhaire | i.e. I can't document the concepts of raid headers in my addon, cause i'd never get any code written |
| 23:19.53 | cladhaire | but anything odd or specific, I do my best to comment |
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| 23:24.33 | Mystiq | are there any good debuggers for this crap? |
| 23:24.56 | Mystiq | my slash commands arent registered so im wondering if the code is even running at all |
| 23:26.03 | cladhaire | you could download devtools from wowi |
| 23:26.10 | cladhaire | or if you're running an ace addon, you have the /dump command |
| 23:26.14 | cladhaire | that lets you inspect things a bit more. |
| 23:26.34 | cladhaire | alternatively, download tinypad or an addon like it, and just code in that window and run it from there, until you have something that works. |
| 23:28.41 | cladhaire | I like tinypad for dynamic frames and visual stuff, then I can just copy and paste it into the addon when i have it right =) |
| 23:29.23 | Lysistrata | Tinypad isn't bad to keep in game notes either .... ^^ |
| 23:32.38 | cladhaire | aye |
| 23:32.41 | cladhaire | I <3 it. |
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| 23:36.07 | Yinxie | Hello World :) |
| 23:36.28 | cladhaire | Yinxie: Heyas =) |
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| 23:36.32 | Yinxie | lolz |
| 23:37.29 | cladhaire | really even if you have a lua questino, you should ask it here. |
| 23:37.29 | Yinxie | Okey i got a question for all those out there who are awake at this hour |
| 23:37.42 | Yinxie | will do it now clad ;) |
| 23:37.43 | cladhaire | since inevitably someone else here has had the question asked/answered before.. or would benefit from it |
| 23:38.01 | Yinxie | Anybody here using Necrosis or using a good alternative for that? |
| 23:38.02 | cladhaire | Plus, what we do is signifigantly different from the #lua people, that its better to ask here regardless =) |
| 23:38.21 | Yinxie | i'd say /agree |
| 23:38.54 | Mystiq | nerf warlocks |
| 23:39.07 | Yinxie | rofl we got nerfed long ago |
| 23:39.09 | Yinxie | nerf mages |
| 23:39.30 | Mystiq | mages are already sux! |
| 23:39.41 | Yinxie | rofl |
| 23:40.13 | Mystiq | wowui.incgamers.com is slower than i remmeber curse being some patches ago o.O |
| 23:41.47 | Yinxie | its slow nowadats |
| 23:41.50 | Yinxie | days |
| 23:43.03 | Yinxie | clad got a quick question for ya |
| 23:43.13 | cladhaire | k k |
| 23:43.18 | Yinxie | whats ur class? |
| 23:43.24 | cladhaire | lol, that's a loaded question |
| 23:43.45 | cladhaire | Horde Druid, Nelf Priest, Dwarf Hunter, Nelf Rogue |
| 23:43.56 | cladhaire | the priest is my primary |
| 23:44.09 | Mystiq | you were close there to having a nelf hunter |
| 23:44.12 | Mystiq | i would have had to disown you |
| 23:44.15 | cladhaire | nope, would never |
| 23:44.23 | cladhaire | and my rogue was created at the start of closed beta |
| 23:44.29 | cladhaire | i re-rolled him once we hit release |
| 23:44.39 | Yinxie | ok |
| 23:44.47 | cladhaire | not that this is any excuse =) |
| 23:45.02 | haste | I don't understand how peopel can play nelfs |
| 23:45.08 | Mystiq | i have a nelf... warrior |
| 23:45.13 | Yinxie | boo |
| 23:45.18 | Yinxie | i hate nelf warrior |
| 23:45.20 | haste | I tried it during closed us... and I played for five minutes, then I logged out and deleted the game |
| 23:45.30 | cladhaire | haste: Why? |
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| 23:45.36 | Yinxie | btw u all US playes here? |
| 23:45.42 | haste | the whole.. flapping ears |
| 23:45.44 | haste | *flap flap flap* |
| 23:45.46 | cladhaire | haha |
| 23:45.48 | Yinxie | LOL |
| 23:45.50 | Yinxie | nice one |
| 23:45.53 | cladhaire | Yinxie: No, we have a number of eu players here |
| 23:46.00 | Yinxie | im EU :) |
| 23:46.04 | haste | I'm also eu :) |
| 23:46.21 | cladhaire | I think i migth end up EU in October when I move to the UK |
| 23:46.27 | Yinxie | yay\ |
| 23:46.27 | cladhaire | depending on latency from my flat |
| 23:46.33 | cladhaire | tho i'd be sad to re-roll |
| 23:46.41 | Yinxie | rofl |
| 23:46.51 | Yinxie | you can transfer ;) |
| 23:49.06 | Yinxie | at least |
| 23:49.15 | Yinxie | you have to do a special transfer thing |
| 23:49.33 | Yinxie | anyway still EU is cool |
| 23:50.02 | cladhaire | I can transfer from US to EU? |
| 23:50.04 | cladhaire | orly fool =) |
| 23:51.15 | Yinxie | yes |
| 23:51.31 | cladhaire | interesting |
| 23:51.48 | Yinxie | a friend of mine left the EU servers cause he was bored, transferred to US |
| 23:51.48 | Yinxie | has a pretty nice ms |
| 23:52.01 | Yinxie | near 350-450's all the time |
| 23:52.28 | ScytheBlade1 | For cross-continent latency, that's not bad at all |
| 23:52.47 | Yinxie | indeed |
| 23:53.00 | haste | I play with around 30ms in-game, <3 EU |
| 23:53.02 | Yinxie | but i dont know about his ISP, his dads rich so... |
| 23:53.07 | Yinxie | nice one haste |
| 23:53.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I have an average of 60ms |
| 23:53.17 | Yinxie | my ISP sucks im around 100ms all the time |
| 23:53.24 | Cide | you realize |
| 23:53.28 | Cide | 100ms is nothing |
| 23:53.36 | Cide | hell, 400ms is nothing in an mmorpg |
| 23:53.38 | haste | my isp sucks hard atm, no routing beyond their backbone |
| 23:53.43 | haste | been like it for two weeks soon :( |
| 23:53.52 | Mystiq | ok now im confused |
| 23:53.55 | Mystiq | paste imminent |
| 23:54.01 | haste | most likely dropping their service today |
| 23:54.02 | Yinxie | lol |
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| 23:54.52 | Yinxie | anyway lets get back to the class topic |
| 23:54.59 | Yinxie | any warlocks here? |
| 23:55.27 | Mystiq | hm |
| 23:55.29 | Cide | I don't roll overpowered classes! |
| 23:55.32 | Mystiq | cladhaire, now im convinced |
| 23:55.40 | Mystiq | my addon's code was never running :) |
| 23:55.50 | cladhaire | hehehe =) |
| 23:55.57 | cladhaire | tinypad ftw :P |
| 23:55.58 | Mystiq | i left the .xml file empty |
| 23:56.05 | Mystiq | was wondering why the slash commands werent running |
| 23:56.08 | cladhaire | ah |
| 23:56.08 | cladhaire | heh |
| 23:56.35 | Yinxie | lol nice one |
| 23:57.41 | Mystiq | you know, cide, thats not funny! |
| 23:57.51 | Cide | blame the game! |
| 23:57.52 | Mystiq | guild was in the eye last week, goign after loot reaver |
| 23:57.55 | Yinxie | lol |
| 23:58.12 | Mystiq | and we bugged out the last pull near him, one of the mechs wasnt moving, but was evade bugged, we thought he would pull when we pulled the group |
| 23:58.34 | Mystiq | so as we were moving in, people kept meleeing him, and eventually someone actually got a hit in and the whole group pulled |
| 23:59.01 | Yinxie | lol |
| 23:59.05 | Yinxie | thats a nice pull |
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| 23:59.53 | Mystiq | whats the minimum you need for a form again, <ui><frame name="wtf"><scripts src="something.lua"> ? |
| 23:59.56 | Yinxie | did ya wipe? |
