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| 00:25.29 | TS|Skrom | bleeter :O |
| 00:31.06 | Lunessa | So bored. |
| 00:31.10 | bleeter | TS|Skrom: that image is not a capture from me, but allegedly from someone on my realm |
| 00:31.33 | TS|Skrom | either way it was hella funny |
| 00:31.35 | bleeter | (whether it's genuine or a photoshop job, can't tell) |
| 00:31.46 | bleeter | not that amusing if you're the one with cancer, though |
| 00:31.56 | TS|Skrom | 5:1 that the guy doesn't have cance |
| 00:31.57 | TS|Skrom | r |
| 00:32.10 | TS|Skrom | was trying to pull one over for fun, I'd do it |
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| 00:32.35 | bleeter | 10 to 1 your odds are randomly chosen :P |
| 00:32.47 | TS|Skrom | 1:2 says you are correct |
| 00:35.18 | Cide | Laraul: hi |
| 00:35.46 | Laraul | cide: was that automated? |
| 00:35.50 | Cide | yes |
| 00:35.54 | Cide | err |
| 00:35.56 | Cide | my 'hi'? |
| 00:36.02 | TS|Skrom | You gave it away cide! |
| 00:36.04 | TS|Skrom | all is lost! |
| 00:36.13 | Laraul | Okay i'm just looking for some OSX users |
| 00:36.23 | Cide | my 'hi' wasn't, I was curious why you CTCP VERSION'd me, but ok |
| 00:36.34 | mikma | OSX = baaaaad |
| 00:37.01 | Laraul | I version'd the channel |
| 00:37.08 | mikma | yeah i can see you did |
| 00:37.22 | Cide | ah |
| 00:37.38 | Lunessa | <--- OSX user |
| 00:37.39 | N|Tivoli | !! |
| 00:37.52 | N|Tivoli | i use it as well |
| 00:37.59 | mikma | omg omg |
| 00:38.06 | mikma | osx noobx! |
| 00:38.22 | Laraul | mikma you are just jelious |
| 00:38.53 | mikma | yeah, most likely :( |
| 00:38.57 | Laraul | Er you write addons with what application? |
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| 00:39.08 | mikma | Darwin Mikmas-MAC.local 7.9.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc |
| 00:39.42 | mikma | sorry my irssi is immune to things like that :P |
| 00:41.18 | mikma | and i use joe to "write" addons |
| 00:41.34 | Laraul | only thing i know that responds to ctcp gestalt is Ircle |
| 00:42.06 | TS|Skrom | that that whiny nerd from Family Matters? |
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| 00:44.03 | Laraul | CTCP VERSION reply from mikma: nIRC 69.1337 <--- Bogus version requests are LAME btw... |
| 00:44.10 | Laraul | er replies |
| 00:44.21 | TS|Skrom | so is invading privacy? |
| 00:44.23 | mikma | well so are version requests |
| 00:45.15 | Laraul | If you don't want people to know what your using then don't respond... don't send some bogus crap... |
| 00:45.31 | TS|Skrom | net effect =.... |
| 00:45.36 | mikma | well now they won't know and are confused. i win! |
| 00:45.52 | TS|Skrom | oh yeah it's the same thign! |
| 00:46.58 | Lunessa | Yeah, wow... don't lie to me when I secretly check out your information... |
| 00:47.14 | Laraul | It's not secret and change the topic |
| 00:48.02 | Laraul | Anyhow I gots a LUA module for BBEdit... |
| 00:48.04 | mikma | i can't! the channel has +t :( |
| 00:48.15 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.38 | Lunessa | lol |
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| 00:50.37 | Laraul | Lunessa you do anything with AppleScript? |
| 00:50.49 | Lunessa | Not in a long time. |
| 00:50.55 | Lunessa | Like, OS 8 |
| 00:51.15 | Laraul | That was like when APpleScript sucked.... |
| 00:51.55 | TS|Skrom | Probably why he stopped using it |
| 00:52.07 | ckknight | Laraul: hey. |
| 00:52.47 | norgs_away | geez... i remember back when applescript was new |
| 00:53.03 | Laraul | ckknight hey I got lua langauge module for bbedit... now i'm trying to write er... |
| 00:53.23 | Laraul | Yes it came out with system 7.1 I beleive... |
| 00:53.45 | Lunessa | I mostly used AppleScript then to do software builds. AppleScript did all the grunt work so I could read USENET |
| 00:54.53 | ckknight | Laraul: I use TextMate |
| 00:55.11 | Laraul | Yeah I remember you told me yesterday |
| 00:55.42 | Laraul | What does Lunessa use? |
| 00:56.00 | Lunessa | TextEdit. 'Cause I'm a lazy bastard |
| 00:56.23 | Lunessa | And yes, I do HTML Tables by hand too, so I'm a masochist. |
| 00:57.18 | Cairenn | so do I |
| 00:57.51 | TS|Skrom | argh, someone remind me how to round to two decimals... math.floor(num+.5) isn't making sense to me in this case |
| 00:57.54 | Lunessa | I wouldn't accuse Cairenn of masochism though... |
| 00:57.54 | Laraul | Yeah I do as well... I wish I didn't |
| 00:58.07 | Cairenn | it is |
| 00:58.30 | bleeter | Cairenn: please ask Laraul to not do it again |
| 00:58.42 | Cairenn | ... |
| 00:58.58 | Cairenn | I presume I don't have to |
| 00:59.04 | bleeter | aye |
| 00:59.05 | Laraul | Why would I do it again? |
| 00:59.17 | Cairenn | why would you do it in the first place, it's rude |
| 00:59.20 | bleeter | Why would you do it in the first place? |
| 00:59.24 | bleeter | paching! |
| 00:59.33 | mikma | why would you |
| 00:59.44 | Lunessa | ... |
| 00:59.50 | TS|Skrom | too late mik that boat sailed |
| 01:00.13 | Lunessa | this is the part where someone in the back of the room says "pwnt!" |
| 01:00.22 | TS|Skrom | *cough* |
| 01:00.23 | Laraul | I dunno. See this is how I look at it. You don't want people to CTCP you. You can turn it off. Otherwise your fair game. Makes sense to me. |
| 01:00.44 | Lunessa | ... you're. |
| 01:00.55 | bleeter | This is how I look at it. We're on Freenode, we follow their policies. End of story. |
| 01:00.55 | TS|Skrom | *pwnt* |
| 01:00.58 | Cairenn | just don't do it again, okay? easy breezy, everyone is happy |
| 01:01.18 | mikma | TS|Skrom: you sank my battleship |
| 01:01.36 | pastamancer | is there more to frost mage dps than just sitting on the frostbolt button? there's a mage in my raid that is underperforming for the gear he has |
| 01:02.02 | mikma | oh lol, you little cheater! |
| 01:02.03 | Laraul | good response... |
| 01:02.05 | Tain | Frostbolt and the occasional Blizzard on certain things. |
| 01:02.16 | Tain | He could be underspecced though. |
| 01:02.46 | bleeter | they could be hitting that instant fire cast thing every chance they have as well. and ice lancing when the mob is frozen in place. |
| 01:02.57 | Laraul | Lunessa you seriously use textedit? |
| 01:03.10 | Lunessa | pastamancer: Frostbolt is pretty much the key, so are trinkets for burst, and blizzard for small targets. If your have the freeze effect on blizzard, then you can IceLaance. |
| 01:03.40 | TS|Skrom | Maybe they missed the all important 100% bonus to crit? |
| 01:03.47 | Lunessa | Laraul: Yes. I haven't bothered buying an IDEs or syntax highlighting tools for either of my Macs. |
| 01:03.56 | bleeter | IceLance is where it's truly at, though. It's only there that one, imo, can approach a firemage's DoT equivelent |
| 01:04.04 | bleeter | gah, talking on here is NOT getting my exam finished... later folks. |
| 01:04.10 | Laraul | I swore textedit saved in RTF format by default |
| 01:04.37 | Lunessa | Format > Make Plain text |
| 01:04.44 | Tain | Frost is completely dependant on spec, even more than fire. Miss a couple of talents and you're down dps. |
| 01:04.46 | pastamancer | Tain: I think you hit it on the nose with the spec... |
| 01:05.03 | Lunessa | Or change it in Prefs. |
| 01:07.36 | Laraul | Hold on... gonna startup parallels... switch to mIRC.... |
| 01:08.45 | Laraul | k uh brb |
| 01:09.18 | cladhaire | Kirkburn|afk: WAKE UP BITCH |
| 01:09.20 | cladhaire | i mean hai! |
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| 01:10.37 | Thrae | !vs us maelstrom erilan us maelstrom nouvelle |
| 01:10.39 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Erilan vs Nouvelle!; 41/20/0 vs 42/19/0; Erilan +1420 HP; Erilan +0.56% dodge; Erilan +72 SpellDmg; Erilan +14 Agi; Erilan +35 Int; Erilan +25 All Resists; Erilan +28 AP; Nouvelle +27 spell crit rating; Erilan +64 Spi; Erilan +14 Str; Erilan +0.56% melee crit; Erilan +525 Mana; Erilan +73 Healing; Nouvelle +403 Armour; Nouvelle +14 mp5; Erilan wins! |
| 01:11.05 | cladhaire | Thrae: What criteria is it using to decide who wins? |
| 01:11.38 | Thrae | cladhaire: % stat differences |
| 01:11.41 | Tain | I win. I am the decider. |
| 01:12.03 | cladhaire | Thrae: Ah, I win against baileys on my server, and i absolutely should not |
| 01:12.10 | cladhaire | he's up +260 spell damage, and +spell hit |
| 01:12.12 | cladhaire | which is all that matterws |
| 01:12.20 | Thrae | cladhaire: Try it again |
| 01:12.21 | cladhaire | !vs us stormrage sagart us stormrage baileys |
| 01:12.26 | ThraeBot | cladhaire: Sagart vs Baileys!; Baileys +80 HP; Sagart +15 RAP; Sagart +1.6% dodge; Sagart +15 Agi; Baileys +139 SpellDmg/Healing; Sagart +10 nature resist; Sagart +80 Int; Baileys +29 resilience; Sagart +7 Spi; Sagart +1 Str; Sagart +40 spell crit rating; Baileys +54 frost dmg; Baileys +130 shadow dmg; Sagart +1 AP; Sagart +1200 Mana; Baileys +2.61% spell hit; Sagart +49 Armour; Sagart wins! |
| 01:12.31 | Thrae | Oh wait |
| 01:12.35 | Thrae | I didn't reload it here >.> |
| 01:12.39 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 01:12.39 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 01:12.42 | Thrae | OK ok |
| 01:12.46 | cladhaire | and do you count int and mana twice? |
| 01:12.55 | Thrae | !vs us stormrage sagart us stormrage baileys |
| 01:12.57 | cladhaire | i.e. +80 int gives me a bunch of extra mana |
| 01:13.01 | cladhaire | do you count it twice? |
| 01:13.01 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Sagart vs Baileys! Two 70 priests square off!; Baileys +80 HP; Baileys +139 SpellDmg&Healing; Sagart +15 RAP; Sagart +1.6% dodge; Sagart +15 Agi; Sagart +10 nature resist; Baileys +29 resilience; Sagart +80 Int; Sagart +7 Spi; Sagart +1 Str; Sagart +40 spell crit rating; Baileys +54 frost dmg; Baileys +130 shadow dmg; Sagart +1 AP; Sagart +1200 Mana; Baileys +2.61% spell hit; Sagart +49 Arm |
| 01:13.01 | ThraeBot | rmour; Baileys wins! by 13%! |
| 01:13.08 | cladhaire | ooh yay |
| 01:13.10 | cladhaire | now i suck =( |
| 01:13.30 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 01:13.30 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 01:14.15 | Lunessa | ... How do I fare? |
| 01:14.29 | pastamancer | Tain: would you mind giving some suggestions for this mage's spec? http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-talents.xml?r=Durotan&n=Brutises |
| 01:14.44 | cladhaire | okay.. i can get a cheap room for $7100 a year, or get the highest grade for $8800 a year.. should I go for the gold? |
| 01:14.54 | pastamancer | I can see frost channeling and elemental precision are missing and should probably have full points in them |
| 01:15.01 | cladhaire | knowing full well that its only 1/3 of my full stipend |
| 01:15.05 | Tain | Ah it's been too long since I really played a Mage, pastamancer. I gave up on mine a long time ago so I don't know what the best is these days. |
| 01:15.35 | TS|Skrom | cladhaire definately |
| 01:15.49 | pastamancer | ah, would anyone else care to comment then? I don't have frost mage expertiese available locally |
| 01:15.53 | cladhaire | its only £364 a month |
| 01:16.13 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 01:16.13 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 01:17.59 | Thrae | !c us Durotan Brutises |
| 01:18.03 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Brutises, Level 70 Troll Mage (17/0/44). 6923 HP; 9506 Mana; 1467 Armour; 6 mp5; 4.76% spell hit; 107 spell crit rating; 568 +spell dmg/heal; 96 frost dmg (664); 50 shadow dmg (618); 5.06% dodge; 47 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/286qwg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2y4cv8 ]] |
| 01:19.32 | TS|Skrom | others will disagree, but for a straight dps frost build I like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0VZZVAMc0cx0VVx has 10 discretionary points to fill out as you please |
| 01:20.26 | Lunessa | cladhaire: What's the difference other than the price? More space? |
| 01:20.47 | cladhaire | "size, view, age, level of noise (eg traffic) |
| 01:20.53 | cladhaire | dictates the price |
| 01:21.03 | cladhaire | and the most expensive rooms have en suite showers |
| 01:21.03 | TS|Skrom | Here's the other one I like, it's an arcane/frost hybrid that has some need bonuses |
| 01:21.04 | TS|Skrom | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RfME00czxIziZZVA0c0f |
| 01:21.05 | cladhaire | which is clutch imo |
| 01:22.11 | Lunessa | cladhaire: private shower = worth it. |
| 01:22.21 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:22.26 | cladhaire | there's two buildings |
| 01:22.35 | cladhaire | one has the highest grade rooms (the shower ones) that's my first choice |
| 01:22.50 | cladhaire | the question is.. do i pay more for a bigger room in the other building, which DOESNT have ensuite showers? |
| 01:23.07 | cladhaire | basically there's a grad building with suites, and then converted houses that 5-6 students share (bathroom, kitchen, etc) |
| 01:23.16 | cladhaire | those rooms run from £358 - £264 |
| 01:23.24 | Lunessa | I mean, I played sports, so I can shower in a locker room, or I can share a shower with 1-2 roomies. But damnit, sometimes I want the shower to myself, for as long as I want to stand under the hot water. |
| 01:23.31 | cladhaire | determined by the size, view, age, level of noise (traffic) |
| 01:23.52 | Lunessa | Light sleeper? |
| 01:24.04 | cladhaire | relatively, yes. |
| 01:26.00 | Lunessa | You're sunk. Get a room with a shower someplace quiet. |
| 01:26.15 | Lunessa | And then I'm going to make you send me good scotch once you get there... |
| 01:26.18 | Thrae | Is it "tic" or "tick" for the mana/health ticks? |
| 01:26.29 | pastamancer | thanks TS|Skrom |
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| 01:27.17 | pastamancer | tick |
| 01:27.28 | pastamancer | a tic is when someone has an involuntary twitch |
| 01:27.53 | Thrae | Or a small insect |
| 01:27.59 | TS|Skrom | that's still a tick |
| 01:28.33 | pastamancer | ~dict tic |
| 01:28.37 | sysrage | rofl. this random pally just said he had to leave group because he lives in a trailer park and they're shutting off the power because some redneck just ran into the power pole |
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| 01:29.17 | pastamancer | that's almost worth having to find a replacement |
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| 01:42.45 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 01:42.45 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 01:44.03 | cog|book | sysrage: I've been in similar situations before... |
| 01:46.24 | Lunessa | ... cog|trailor park? |
| 01:46.53 | cog|book | Cairenn|afk or dolby-wowi, have you guys ever thought about having an "Are you sure you don't want to upload an image" prompt instead of flat-out requiring them? |
| 01:48.12 | cog|book | Although some of the "not an image" ones are pretty funny :P |
| 01:48.36 | cog|book | my latest contrib: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7358#cmnt45127 |
| 01:48.51 | cog|book | err minus the comment part... |
| 01:48.56 | cladhaire | i enjoyed it =) |
| 01:48.58 | cladhaire | saw it earlier today |
| 01:49.04 | cladhaire | when you bitched and asked me to approve it |
| 01:49.14 | cog|book | ~scratch cladhaire |
| 01:49.24 | purl | ACTION shreds cladhaire's backside |
| 01:49.46 | Lunessa | cog|book: I lawled. |
| 01:50.00 | cog|book | purl, for a sec there I thought I was gonna have to botsmack ya |
| 01:53.23 | cog|book | Anyone know how to tell purl to say something in this channel but via a whisper? (if it's even possible) |
| 01:53.52 | cladhaire | i dont think that's possible, due to abuse |
| 02:03.36 | Nom- | muahahha |
| 02:03.43 | Nom- | toped the healing charts last night :P |
| 02:04.12 | Nom- | by like 3%, 300,000 effective heals :P |
| 02:07.42 | Garoun|Loupana | praid does not like arenas :( |
| 02:07.54 | cladhaire | still? |
| 02:07.57 | cladhaire | are you up to date |
| 02:08.03 | cladhaire | I fixed that bug quite a while ago |
| 02:10.14 | Garoun|Loupana | is most recent on wowi? |
| 02:10.33 | Garoun|Loupana | I've used the most recent that was up there, but I'll try again the next night I pvp |
| 02:10.45 | cladhaire | yeah its on wowi |
| 02:11.38 | Garoun|Loupana | k, I probably won't arena again till next week but we'll see :) |
| 02:11.56 | stavmar | is there a script to get rid of a focus target? |
| 02:12.40 | cladhaire | yeah, /focus or /clearfocus imo |
| 02:12.46 | cladhaire | well /focus if you have no target =) |
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| 02:13.21 | Lunessa | Those two functions are so handy I've made a macro for each. Just 'cause. |
| 02:13.30 | Garoun|Loupana | I use /clearfocus |
| 02:18.56 | stavmar | thanks guys |
| 02:19.05 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:19.05 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
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| 02:41.43 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:41.43 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 02:41.46 | Thrae | !vs us stormrage sagart us stormrage baileys |
| 02:41.48 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Sagart vs Baileys! Two 70 priests square off!; Baileys +80 HP; Baileys +139 SpellDmg&Healing; Sagart +15 RAP; Sagart +1.6% dodge; Sagart +40 spell crit rating; Sagart +10 nature resist; Baileys +29 resilience; Baileys +2.61% spell hit; Sagart +1 AP; Baileys +54 frost dmg; Baileys +130 shadow dmg; Sagart +1200 Mana; Sagart +4 mana regen; Sagart +49 Armour; Sagart wins by 3%! |
| 02:43.07 | Nom- | wtf ? |
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| 02:43.19 | Nom- | !vs us stormscale innominata us stormscale viorate |
| 02:43.21 | ThraeBot | Nom-: Innominata vs Viorate! A L70 paladin and a L70 warrior square off!; 40/0/21 vs 33/25/3; Viorate +3677 HP; Viorate +1.8% dodge; Innominata +580 SpellDmg; Innominata +10 spell crit rating; Viorate +246 resilience; Innominata +0.63% spell hit; Innominata +43 holy dmg; Viorate +996 AP; Innominata +115 mana regen; Viorate +28.51% melee crit; Innominata +8583 Mana; Innominata +673 Healing; Innomin |
| 02:43.21 | ThraeBot | inata +1752 Armour; Innominata +34 mp5; Viorate wins by 3%! |
| 02:43.40 | Thrae | Remember you can /msg the bot too ;) |
| 02:43.44 | Nom- | pffffffffffffffft |
| 02:43.57 | Nom- | I know that I kick Viorate's ass |
| 02:44.04 | Nom- | Paladin vs Warrior...c'mon! |
| 02:45.29 | Nom- | lol |
| 02:45.35 | Nom- | Not a very good theorycraft thing then |
| 02:46.08 | Nom- | The day a Protection Warrior beats a Holy Paladin is the day I'll quit playing WoW |
| 02:47.02 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 02:47.02 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 02:47.29 | Nom- | ooh..vio specced back to his pvp build |
| 02:47.41 | Nom- | but still... bubble...stuns... |
| 02:47.48 | Thrae | !vs us stormscale innominata us stormscale viorate |
| 02:47.50 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Innominata vs Viorate! A L70 paladin and a L70 warrior square off!; 40/0/21 vs 33/25/3; Viorate +3677 HP; Viorate +1.8% dodge; Innominata +580 SpellDmg; Innominata +10 spell crit rating; Viorate +246 resilience; Innominata +0.63% spell hit; Innominata +43 holy dmg; Viorate +996 AP; Innominata +115 mana regen; Viorate +28.51% melee crit; Innominata +673 Healing; Innominata +1752 Armour; Inno |
| 02:47.50 | ThraeBot | nominata +34 mp5; Viorate wins by 4%! |
| 02:48.26 | Thrae | Nom-: It's -designed- for same class vs same class by comparing stat differences. When it does class vs another class, that's going to be insanely harder. |
| 02:48.41 | Nom- | lol k fair enough :) |
| 02:48.56 | Nom- | !vs us stormscale julise us stormscale athene |
| 02:48.58 | ThraeBot | Nom-: Julise vs Athene! Two 70 priests square off!; Julise +1010 HP; Julise +182 SpellDmg&Healing; Athene +27 spell crit rating; Julise +108 resilience; Athene +2.3% spell hit; Julise +183 frost dmg; Julise +234 shadow dmg; Athene +735 Mana; Athene +22 mana regen; Julise +347 Armour; Athene +4 mp5; Julise wins by 1%! |
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| 02:49.54 | Nom- | That's rather flawed :P |
| 02:50.39 | Nom- | Julise is in full PvP gear... Athene is wearing greens still |
| 02:50.42 | Thrae | Nom-: What, Athene should win? |
| 02:50.54 | Thrae | How am I suppose to tell that >.> |
| 02:51.01 | Nom- | No, the result is right, but 1% is a little low |
| 02:51.55 | Nom- | spriest vs spriest is pretty easy to gauge...so i dunno what you're using |
| 02:52.21 | Thrae | Nom-: It's mainly to show the differences in stats. The "wins" just adds up the differences and does a comparison. |
| 02:52.58 | Nom- | *nod* |
| 02:53.02 | Nom- | You must be bored to build that :) |
| 03:01.38 | TS|Skrom | I think that show gets better every week |
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| 03:07.39 | Lunessa | TS|Skrom: You're just saying that to torment me. Cruel wicked bastich. |
| 03:07.48 | TS|Skrom | yes, yes I am |
| 03:08.56 | Lunessa | Quoting my favorite boss in Outlands, "I ... hate ... you." :P |
| 03:09.04 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 03:09.13 | Nom- | wwwwwtfffffff |
| 03:09.24 | Nom- | They gave some 75 year old woman a 40Gbps connection in Sweden |
| 03:09.48 | Lunessa | Wow... she running a pr0n server or what? |
| 03:09.51 | Wobin_ | quick, get into her will |
| 03:10.03 | Nom- | The mother of an "internet legend" in sweden |
| 03:10.33 | cladhaire | this is the bestest thing EVAR |
| 03:10.34 | cladhaire | Mac Movie Capture: the Mac client can now capture in-game video to QuickTime movie files using a configurable choice of codec (H.264, Motion JPEG, or Pixlet), resolution, and frame rate. |
| 03:11.01 | Nom- | "The most difficult part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC," said Jonsson. |
| 03:11.24 | Nom- | wtf??? in WoW, cladhaire ? |
| 03:11.29 | cladhaire | yep |
| 03:11.36 | Wobin_ | argh |
| 03:11.36 | Nom- | what about winblows users ? |
| 03:11.51 | Wobin_ | Why can't the armoury sort by column over page changes? |
| 03:11.54 | cladhaire | possible, but doubtful |
| 03:12.12 | Nom- | bleh |
| 03:12.23 | Nom- | I'd record raids and stuff to Quicktime if there was a reasonable way to do it |
| 03:12.30 | Nom- | Which didn't kill WoW in the process |
| 03:12.59 | Wobin_ | !vs us Argent Dawn Kerlihn us Argent Dawn Rikitikitavi |
| 03:13.01 | Lunessa | cladhaire: I'm SO going to do that. |
| 03:13.02 | ThraeBot | Wobin_: Kerlihn vs Rikitikitavi! Two 70 priests square off!; 0/12/49 vs 16/45/0; Kerlihn +720 HP; Kerlihn +471 SpellDmg&Healing; Kerlihn +1.64% dodge; Kerlihn +28 spell crit rating; Kerlihn +10 nature resist; Kerlihn +0.63% spell hit; Kerlihn +13 RAP; Rikitikitavi +1 AP; Kerlihn +540 Mana; Rikitikitavi +28 mana regen; Kerlihn +42 Armour; Rikitikitavi +34 mp5; Kerlihn wins by 2%! |
| 03:13.02 | cladhaire | there just isn't os level stuff for that on windows |
| 03:13.06 | cladhaire | Lunessa: yep |
| 03:13.12 | Lunessa | Just 'cause. |
| 03:13.36 | Nom- | Sure there is, cladhaire ... It's already being done in Fraps |
| 03:13.55 | cladhaire | not like there is on mac os x |
| 03:14.15 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 03:14.16 | Nom- | Pfft... |
| 03:14.37 | Nom- | I wish Blizzard would release BSD libraries |
| 03:15.04 | Nom- | I'd install *BSD in a heartbeat if I didn't have to use any emulator |
| 03:15.50 | Nom- | oooooooooooo |
| 03:15.54 | Nom- | Zul'Aman is another 10-man ?? |
| 03:15.58 | cladhaire | yep |
| 03:16.08 | Nom- | sweet |
| 03:16.26 | Nom- | Anyone know where it sits in the raiding ladder? or is it just an alternative to Karazhan ? |
| 03:16.40 | cladhaire | i'll let you know after blizzcon =) |
| 03:16.57 | Nom- | Coolies |
| 03:17.05 | Nom- | Ask them to put some Retribution gear in there :) |
| 03:17.36 | Nom- | There's quite a few gear sets which aren't covered in the T1 raiding areas ... it'd be nice if they were covered in Zul'Aman |
| 03:18.12 | Wobin_ | Nom-: There's no keying for ZA |
| 03:18.21 | Wobin_ | so it's like Gruul's |
| 03:18.27 | cladhaire | there's no keying for SSC or The Eye either |
| 03:18.42 | Wobin_ | I hear it'll be harder than Kara |
| 03:18.46 | cladhaire | thats what i heard |
| 03:18.50 | Wobin_ | well maybe later on |
| 03:18.53 | Wobin_ | (further in) |
| 03:19.50 | Nom- | integrated voice chat and guild banks. |
| 03:19.53 | Nom- | YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY |
| 03:20.10 | Nom- | You have NO idea how many times we've wished for guild banks and integrated voice chat |
| 03:20.56 | Lunessa | I lay odds most guild still use Ventrillo or Teamspeak even with integrated VOIP |
| 03:21.12 | cog|book | Holy crap... anyone look at lolcode.com lately? What actually happened in a matter of days was a vibrant and enthusiastic community appeared, with scores of contributions, over a dozen implementations, and a lively forum for discussion. The language is evolving quickly into something real, supported on multiple platforms. |
| 03:21.52 | Lunessa | zomg. I might actually have to write some utilities in lolcode. |
| 03:23.14 | Nom- | Umm here's a suggestion for those of you going to Blizzcon |
| 03:23.16 | Lunessa | " Yes, AddOns have full access to the voice chat API at the moment. There is no documentation for it, but you'll be able to see it in action on the test server. when it becomes available. " http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=7 |
| 03:23.31 | Nom- | See if we can get some Blizzard-run raid stats accessible based on the Raid ID |
| 03:23.49 | Lunessa | I forsee some handy addons out of that. |
| 03:24.25 | TS|Skrom | Unless there's a SquelchLoudTeen() api I'm not interested |
| 03:24.38 | Nom- | There will be a ute function lol |
| 03:24.41 | Nom- | *mute |
| 03:24.52 | Nom- | And i'm sure someone will make an addon which allows you to lower the volume of some users |
| 03:25.10 | cladhaire | lol i love bugs like this |
| 03:25.11 | cladhaire | Dressing room models for females are now showing the correct head when transformed into a Fel Orc via the Dragonmaw Illusion. |
| 03:25.12 | Wobin_ | Although what I like about the intergrated chat is the "A mark will appear above the player that is currently speaking" |
| 03:25.17 | cog|book | I'd like to see 1) A new Medic class for gnomes and undead (like an apothecary) and 2) .... crap... forgot what 2 was... |
| 03:25.42 | Wobin_ | although, there'd better be a way to mute players =P |
| 03:26.05 | Nom- | lol don't need a new class |
| 03:26.06 | Nom- | :P |
| 03:26.24 | Wobin_ | A new class would be cool |
| 03:26.27 | Wobin_ | if they could balance it |
| 03:26.32 | Wobin_ | New races are meh |
| 03:26.34 | TS|Skrom | Unless they can throw pots at others ala final fantasy... apothecary seems underpowered :P |
| 03:27.08 | cog|book | Make potions with low cooldowns that only work for party members, perhaps? |
| 03:27.19 | cog|book | actually, they'd be more of a buff & dps class |
| 03:27.34 | cog|book | but would have some healing capabilities |
| 03:27.47 | cog|book | (i've actually given this a lot of thought) |
| 03:27.52 | Lunessa | [Gnomish Bandage Blaster] |
| 03:27.52 | Wobin_ | "Stop throwing those glass healing bottles at me damnit!" |
| 03:28.08 | Nom- | Sounds like you played too much SWG, cog|book |
| 03:28.13 | cog|book | (Had a nice long suggestion post about it but it was the old forum software and it got lost) |
| 03:28.13 | Nom- | Combat Medic much ? |
| 03:28.20 | cog|book | Nom-: nope :P |
| 03:28.29 | cog|book | wow is my first mmo |
| 03:28.32 | Nom- | hehe... combat medics were awesome |
| 03:28.46 | Nom- | They were like a Shadow Priest + Holy Priest in one |
| 03:28.58 | cog|book | I'm thinking they'd use crossbows with poisoned darts |
| 03:29.20 | cog|book | the three talent schools would be Biology, Chemistry, and Technology |
| 03:29.30 | Lunessa | ... didn't anyone listen to BIll Cosby? "Just sit in the fox-hole and watch the war, man!" |
| 03:29.31 | Nom- | They could throw hugely powerful area affect "grenades" which did massive amounts of damage to people...they were all instant cast (everything in SWG was back then) and no cooldown |
| 03:29.39 | Wobin_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/zulamanboss.jpg |
| 03:29.46 | Nom- | They also had AoE heals |
| 03:30.04 | Wobin_ | rofl, the eagle god looks like a depressed man doing costume work for advertising =) |
| 03:30.15 | Lunessa | lol |
| 03:30.42 | Wobin_ | "...yeah, cheap goods at Hank's Eagle Emporium..." |
| 03:30.54 | Nom- | I am so impressed by the fact they're putting in voice chat |
| 03:31.03 | Nom- | They finally recognised just how many people use TS/Vent |
| 03:31.03 | Wobin_ | I hope they don't screw it up =) |
| 03:31.12 | Nom- | Nah, i'm sure they'll do fine |
| 03:31.21 | Nom- | Just as Eve Online did really well in their ingame voice comm |
| 03:31.28 | Wobin_ | They'd better put in a mute player option though |
| 03:31.36 | Nom- | They will |
| 03:31.40 | Nom- | That'd be a pretty basic feature |
| 03:31.58 | Nom- | Hopefully they'll put in an adjust volume option on per-player too, like you can do in Ventrilo |
| 03:32.05 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 03:32.14 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. Going home, got to do CoT: Dark Portal tonight for my Shaman. :) |
| 03:32.22 | Nom- | I can *never* remember what battlegroup mine is in :/ |
| 03:32.26 | Wobin_ | It looks like we'll get voicechat and guildbanks -before- 2.2 |
| 03:32.36 | Nom- | I hope so, Wobin_ |
| 03:32.38 | Wobin_ | Nom-: check the armory |
| 03:32.41 | Nom- | Guild banks especially |
| 03:33.36 | Nom- | Having a proper guild bank will make things so much easier for us |
| 03:33.46 | Nom- | No more relying on one person to come online at the right time |
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| 03:46.00 | Nom- | • Blessing of Kings, Light, Might, Salvation, Sanctuary and Wisdom increased to 10 minutes. |
| 03:46.03 | Nom- | OMG |
| 03:46.10 | Nom- | • Greater Blessing of Kings, Light, Might, Salvation, Sanctuary and Wisdom increased to 30 minutes. |
| 03:46.13 | Nom- | OMFG |
| 03:46.20 | Nom- | I think I just... |
| 03:46.28 | Nom- | Just... OMG |
| 03:46.43 | Nom- | • Blessing of Sacrifice now has a 1-minute cooldown. <-- ouch! No more maiden on easy mode! |
| 03:47.04 | Nom- | You win some...you lose some |
| 03:47.08 | TS|Skrom | does it sttill only last 45 sec? |
| 03:47.32 | Nom- | 30 seconds you mean |
| 03:47.36 | Nom- | • Hammer of Wrath cast time reduced to .5 seconds, global cooldown reduced to .5 seconds. <--- yay |
| 03:47.57 | TS|Skrom | hrm... no wonder mine always ran out fast |
| 03:48.48 | Nom- | • Seal of Vengeance duration increased to 15 seconds. In addition, when Seal of Vengeance strikes a target that already has 5 applications you will cause instant Holy damage. |
| 03:49.04 | Nom- | Less alliance crying now |
| 03:49.48 | Nom- | ahhh some nice changes for priests too |
| 03:50.04 | TS|Skrom | what is this you are reading from then? ptr? |
| 03:53.27 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=1FA2394661AC0EE1B073B730E34E933D?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 03:53.37 | Nom- | get rid of the session id prolly tho |
| 03:53.57 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 03:54.10 | Thrae | !t http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 03:54.11 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/2xk7tx |
| 03:58.35 | Nom- | • Six Demon Bag: The damage spells cast by this item no longer benefit from a player’s bonus spell damage effects. |
| 03:58.38 | Nom- | HAHAH i saw that one coming |
| 03:58.52 | TS|Skrom | was it acutally significant? |
| 03:59.08 | Thrae | Maybe to twinks |
| 03:59.41 | Nom- | yeah it was |
| 03:59.47 | Nom- | coz it could crit too |
| 03:59.58 | Nom- | so you could have like a pally with +1000 spell damage do a big combo |
| 04:00.44 | Nom- | So you'd have like holy shock (2500), judgement (2000), SDB (1100-1200), Hammer of Wrath (1000) |
| 04:00.58 | Nom- | You could combo people down so fast |
| 04:01.16 | TS|Skrom | those are all crits I take it |
| 04:02.43 | Nom- | • Various issues breaking the "Showdown" quest fight have been resolved. |
| 04:02.51 | Nom- | holy shock/judgement was |
| 04:02.56 | Nom- | SDB no, hammer of wrath no |
| 04:03.14 | Nom- | holy shock is a guaranteed crit in a nuke situation anyway |
| 04:03.29 | Nom- | with 1000 spell damage, 25% crit, you can pretty much guarantee some numbers like that |
| 04:03.41 | Nom- | in fact, hammer of wrath would get more damage than that |
| 04:05.58 | Nom- | • The following old-world factions have had their acquisition rate significantly increased: Cenarion Circle, Argent Dawn, Timbermaw Hold. |
| 04:06.03 | Nom- | yay i can go grind those up now ^_^ |
| 04:08.45 | cog|book | a lot of typos in those patch notes... |
| 04:09.30 | Nom- | • Players can now accept daily quests even after their daily quest limit has been reached. |
| 04:09.33 | Nom- | YAY |
| 04:10.14 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:10.18 | Nom- | 2.2.0 out today?!?!? |
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| 04:10.28 | Nom- | Nice, i'm logging into PTR to give it a go :D |
| 04:15.09 | Nom- | I like the implication that we can quickly and easily level up all the old world factions now |
| 04:15.12 | Nom- | Compared to before at least |
| 04:15.43 | Nom- | Sure, the recipes are somehwat useless, but it's a free Naxx attunement (in case I can finally convince my build to go there) :P |
| 04:16.08 | Nom- | AND there's a point to going there now |
| 04:16.16 | Nom- | Nexus => Shards |
| 04:16.17 | Nom- | ! |
| 04:16.17 | Nom- | !! |
| 04:16.17 | ThraeBot | Sorry Nom-, you must wait 3 seconds before making another request. |
| 04:16.18 | Nom- | !! |
| 04:16.27 | Nom- | lol @ ThraeBot |
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| 04:19.18 | cog|book | O.O Nerf Mac WoW |
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| 04:21.12 | Nom- | hmmm..... i might actually pick up a second crafting profession on my mage |
| 04:21.22 | Nom- | tailoring maybe...since they're adding so much good stuff to tailoring lately |
| 04:23.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god it was gonna let me login to the ptr with version 2.1.2 |
| 04:23.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that woulda been ugly for everyone |
| 04:24.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, apparently the cat range bug has been fixed for good |
| 04:24.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll see |
| 04:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | hopefully they fix booterang |
| 04:24.49 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Only for NE according to the patch |
| 04:25.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, it says it was shorter than the tauren one |
| 04:25.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | which leads me to believe the tauren one was fixed in 2.1.x |
| 04:25.20 | Thrae | 2.1.x doesn't show any fixes to that effect |
| 04:25.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | when they made mobs walk closer to us |
| 04:25.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | when we shift in |
| 04:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm thinking they may have fixed the tauren one too |
| 04:25.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | then, rather |
| 04:25.43 | Thrae | Hmm |
| 04:29.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | no zul'aman yet? |
| 04:30.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | its only a 48 mb patch |
| 04:30.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know an early version of zul aman is in |
| 04:30.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's got a bunch of stuff they really should remove and probably stuff they need to add |
| 04:31.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | like it still has the little layout for the thing under it in purple squares |
| 04:31.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | eating up framerate |
| 04:37.53 | Nom- | Nothing in the patch notes about Zul'aman |
| 04:37.56 | Nom- | So doubtful it's in |
| 04:38.40 | Nom- | Can you do backdoor Karazhan without clearing the front yet ? |
| 04:43.00 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:43.44 | Nom- | Hope they let you do that soon :) |
| 04:43.54 | Nom- | Those first 5 bosses are annoying, and so easy |
| 04:44.10 | Nom- | 4 bosses even |
| 04:45.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't clear the front O_o |
| 04:45.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | we kill attumen and clear to koren then go in the back |
| 04:46.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | or am i misunderstanding you |
| 04:46.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may be, i dunno |
| 04:47.12 | Nom- | So you can do back door |
| 04:47.18 | Nom- | Right... |
| 04:47.49 | Nom- | We can do Curator => Price with all one-shots |
| 04:48.01 | Nom- | And it's such a waste of time to do the first 3 bosses most days |
| 04:48.09 | Nom- | Unless we've got newbs with us |
| 04:48.19 | Nom- | Opera is occasionally worthwhile |
| 04:48.27 | Nom- | Voids are about all we get out of it though |
| 04:48.53 | Nom- | Some days we DE Everything until we reach Curator |
| 04:49.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | well sometimes we do attumen, moroes, opera, then curator |
| 04:49.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | we weren't doing well last night though |
| 04:49.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | took us a bunch of tries to down wolf |
| 04:50.03 | Nom- | Wednesday night we took all newbs in through front door |
| 04:50.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason, he's been kicking our asses yet we can oneshot curator easily |
| 04:50.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | he seems to cut us off way too easily |
| 04:50.24 | Nom- | One shotted everything and then wipes on Shade of Aran 3 times before calling it |
| 04:50.45 | Nom- | Curator is really easy |
| 04:50.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 04:50.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | bbw is supposed to be easy as hell |
| 04:50.56 | Nom- | We used 2 healers ... seriously |
| 04:50.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we must be doing something wrong |
| 04:51.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | we always use 3 healers generally |
| 04:51.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2 priests and a pally |
| 04:51.12 | Nom- | Nah BBW is kind of tough...very tough if you lose your tank |
| 04:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | our tank isn't the problem |
| 04:51.23 | Nom- | BBW is easy as long as you get lucky |
| 04:51.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | he always catches up to us |
| 04:51.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | and drops everyone else |
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| 04:51.47 | Nom- | umm with the bbw run |
| 04:52.00 | Nom- | It's kind of buggy |
| 04:52.08 | Nom- | You only get hit if you use the mouse to turn |
| 04:52.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | he doesn't even slow down on the trees and house |
| 04:52.25 | Nom- | If you holy down 'W' and use A/D to turn you don't get hit |
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| 04:52.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | those are supposed to slow him down and he just goes right through them |
| 04:53.19 | Nom- | Yeah, but it's a buggy thing |
| 04:53.46 | Nom- | We have to get really lucky for someone to survive that (who isn't a hunter/rogue/paladin) |
| 04:54.13 | Nom- | Hunter can FD, Rogue can Vanish, Paladin can Bubble (unless they get changed more than once) |
| 04:54.39 | Nom- | But at the end of the day, it comes down to a DPS war... we kill him before he can kill too many of us |
| 04:54.56 | Nom- | Still we've not wiped on any opera in about 4 weeks |
| 04:56.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got hooded 3x in a row |
| 04:56.44 | sysrage | holy crap is mouse turning really what gets me killed every god damn time we do that event? |
| 04:57.35 | Nom- | Pretty much, sysrage :) |
| 04:57.58 | Nom- | It's bugged... you can probably do it with mouse turning if you have a sub-100 ping |
| 04:58.23 | sysrage | definately trying a and d next time. that pisses me off |
| 04:58.27 | Arrowmaster | how does using mouse turning effect it? |
| 04:58.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought kb turning was much slower |
| 04:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 04:58.37 | sysrage | i have never once survived being little red riding hood |
| 04:58.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that would explain why the noob warlock survives |
| 04:58.50 | sysrage | lol |
| 04:58.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | who turns by a or d |
| 04:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean seriously |
| 04:59.51 | sysrage | it makes me cry when i see tanks lose aggro and use keyboard to turn around and go after mob. it's painfully obvious when they do. takes um so long to turn |
| 05:00.04 | cog|book | i do all my movement with my mouse |
| 05:00.54 | cog|book | my keyboard is exclusively for action bindings & chatting |
| 05:01.23 | cog|book | (I prefer having a large number of buttons to using modifier keys) |
| 05:01.59 | Nom- | same, but yeah...seriously |
| 05:02.04 | Nom- | i don't get hit when i use the keyboard |
| 05:02.11 | Nom- | neither does anyone else |
| 05:02.25 | Nom- | and it's hard for me, coz i'm an FPS gamer |
| 05:02.30 | Nom- | So i'm used to using stafe turns |
| 05:02.49 | Nom- | but i think the game consider a direction change as standing still |
| 05:02.52 | Nom- | do it gets you killed |
| 05:19.12 | JunkHead-Work | [00:02:00] <sysrage> i have never once survived being little red riding hood |
| 05:19.16 | JunkHead-Work | We did this fight today. |
| 05:19.39 | JunkHead-Work | I got turned into Red Riding Hood 3 times in one fight. |
| 05:20.02 | JunkHead-Work | He didn't touch me the first 2 times, one shotted me on the third one.:( |
| 05:20.52 | Nom- | We tried Void Reaver for the first time last night |
| 05:20.59 | JunkHead-Work | How'd it go? |
| 05:21.00 | Nom- | The trash leading up to him is pretty tough lol |
| 05:21.14 | Nom- | We got him to about 65% on our last attempt |
| 05:21.15 | JunkHead-Work | We're gonna try Mag tomorrow. |
| 05:21.19 | JunkHead-Work | Or.. today, whatever. |
| 05:21.40 | Thrae | ~ugt |
| 05:21.41 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 05:23.04 | JunkHead-Work | Anyone ever tried this free Golf MMO, Albatross 18? |
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| 05:23.51 | Thrae | Golf MMO? Do you gain levels by boring your opponents to death? |
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| 05:24.07 | JunkHead-Work | Actually it doesn't look too bad, but I like Golf games. |
| 05:24.21 | JunkHead-Work | It looks very similar to Hot Shots Golf if you ever played those on Playstation. |
| 05:25.15 | JunkHead-Work | But yes you do gain levels. By playing and beating people I guess. You also win some kind of points that are like currency. So you can buy optional items and stuff. |
| 05:25.26 | JunkHead-Work | I'm still waiting for it to download. It doesn't look bad. |
| 05:25.53 | Thrae | My feeling about Golf Games is best summed up in a FoxTrot quote -- "Yeah, I got this new Tiger Woods game...Darn it! I keep overshooting the green!" |
| 05:26.22 | Nom- | Playing golf is like watching the grass grow |
| 05:26.32 | Nom- | (Without using a time-lapse recorder) |
| 05:26.51 | Nom- | Because watching grass grow in time-lapse is hell fun |
| 05:27.14 | JunkHead-Work | Playing golf is fun. Watching people play golf is horrible. |
| 05:27.25 | JunkHead-Work | Golf Video Games are fun in my opinion. |
| 05:27.31 | Thrae | Nom-: Which is why it's so very dangerous to be a landscaper at a golf course. Your job is to watch the grass grow while around golfers! It can cause comas I hear. |
| 05:27.42 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:27.55 | JunkHead-Work | Which reminds me, my 360 gave me the red rings today. |
| 05:28.09 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:28.27 | JunkHead-Work | Funny thing is, I never play it. |
| 05:28.34 | JunkHead-Work | I haven't turned it on in months. |
| 05:28.45 | Thrae | It's atrophied! |
| 05:28.51 | JunkHead-Work | My nephew comes over today, turns it on, red rings. |
| 05:29.00 | Thrae | He broke it. Make him buy you a new one. |
| 05:29.04 | JunkHead-Work | I just looked at him and said "Oh well..." |
| 05:29.14 | JunkHead-Work | And then i went back to playing WoW. |
| 05:29.22 | Nom- | LOL |
| 05:29.36 | Nom- | Better get it fix0red |
| 05:29.37 | Thrae | JunkHead-Work: You could probably Ebay it if you don't want to fix it |
| 05:29.47 | JunkHead-Work | My plan is this. |
| 05:30.06 | JunkHead-Work | If it broke on it's own, (Like I said, I never play it.) Maybe it can fix itself. |
| 05:30.09 | JunkHead-Work | brb phone |
| 05:30.53 | Nom- | LOL |
| 05:30.53 | Nom- | Someone just got OWNED |
| 05:30.59 | Nom- | PHB: So I shouldn't talk about the rugby? |
| 05:31.08 | Nom- | SM: I don't really follow it... |
| 05:31.14 | Nom- | PHB: I wouldn't either if they lost |
| 05:31.30 | Nom- | (Insert LOL here) |
| 05:34.33 | JunkHead-Work | Back. |
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| 05:40.10 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174616076&postId=3001632763&sid=1#0 |
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| 05:43.41 | Thrae | ~seen slouken |
| 05:44.06 | purl | slouken <n=hercules@ip68-5-37-254.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 30d 23h 10m 32s ago, saying: 'POOF!'. |
| 05:44.06 | Nom- | LOL |
| 05:44.06 | Nom- | My company ordered a hillarious amount of pizza for lunch today |
| 05:44.24 | Nom- | We order in these huge rectangular pizzas |
| 05:44.37 | Nom- | which are lik 30cm wide by about 60cm |
| 05:44.54 | Nom- | we got 8 of them at 12:30, another 8 at like 1:00 |
| 05:44.58 | Nom- | and another 8 just arrived |
| 05:45.09 | Nom- | everyone was already full by the second batch lol |
| 05:46.31 | JunkHead-Work | You guys are some hungry bastards... |
| 05:52.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm tempted to pop in here as slouken one day and confuse the hell out of everyone |
| 05:53.24 | Cairenn | you can't, it's registered |
| 05:53.34 | Cairenn | and he does stop in from time to time |
| 05:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes but he doesn't mention lua being dropped in favor of java |
| 05:54.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 05:55.42 | Tem | why would you do that? |
| 05:55.51 | Tem | for what the ui does, lua is way faster |
| 05:55.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i know |
| 05:56.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats why i would do it |
| 05:56.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | to scare the hell out of you |
| 05:56.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | that or mention that blizzard has decided to disallow all UI customization other than that built into wow |
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| 05:59.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit ptr, copy my character >:[ |
| 05:59.03 | Thrae | PTR ERROR: Your character was lost in the nether storm of the Maelstrom, never to be seen again. |
| 05:59.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft i got seal form or flight form |
| 05:59.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll get out |
| 05:59.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean or, not of? :O |
| 05:59.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | the maelstrom and netherstorm are different things :P |
| 06:05.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha, voice chat is on the ptr |
| 06:05.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i randomly moved my mouse over the frame and see a little box with a speaker |
| 06:05.35 | Nom- | OMG really ? |
| 06:05.38 | Nom- | YAY |
| 06:05.48 | Nom- | Can't wait to test that out |
| 06:05.55 | Nom- | MUST find Bluetooth headset |
| 06:05.58 | Corrodias | Mac Movie Capture: the Mac client can now capture in-game video to QuickTime movie files using a configurable choice of codec (H.264, Motion JPEG, or Pixlet), resolution, and frame rate. |
| 06:05.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the sound thing occasionally changes to "sound and voice" |
| 06:06.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't do it yet, nom |
| 06:06.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like |
| 06:06.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | in but only halfway and doesn't seem to be working afaik |
| 06:06.16 | Nom- | Nah I want one anyway |
| 06:06.19 | Nom- | For TS/Vent |
| 06:06.23 | Corrodias | why quicktime? quicktime is BALLS. |
| 06:06.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | Mac. |
| 06:06.58 | Corrodias | ah yes |
| 06:06.58 | Nom- | I plan to have all TS/vent caht going through my bluetooth headset |
| 06:06.58 | Nom- | and all normal game play through speakers |
| 06:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing OSX has built in quicktime recording |
| 06:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, super easy |
| 06:07.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can change the codec, too |
| 06:07.21 | Corrodias | Cat Form (Night Elf) melee attack range was too short compared to Tauren Cat Form and other attack ranges. It has been increased. |
| 06:07.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | H.264 is great |
| 06:07.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes corr |
| 06:07.31 | Corrodias | damn nelfs |
| 06:07.36 | Corrodias | DAMN YOU ALL |
| 06:07.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | hopefully this means cat form range bug is fixed |
| 06:07.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll see |
| 06:07.50 | Corrodias | the "cat form range bug" was really a "nelf bug"! |
| 06:08.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, they fixed part of it in 2.1.something |
| 06:08.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing they fixed it entirely for taurens and only halfway for nightelves then |
| 06:08.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | now it may be totally fixed |
| 06:08.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | we'll see |
| 06:08.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | if so this is a GRAND day |
| 06:08.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | because we can finally stop referencing it as a bug since release that hasn't been fixed |
| 06:08.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and instead refer to it as the bug that took 2 and a half years to fix |
| 06:09.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | next is the click-to-move camera bugging out in smart mode |
| 06:09.35 | Thrae | "Due to the problems with the Druid's Cat Form, Night Elves have been removed from the game until further notice." |
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| 06:10.00 | Corrodias | aspect of the viper kicks some new ass... |
| 06:10.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate all other night elves |
| 06:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only real night elves are druisd |
| 06:10.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids* |
| 06:10.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the rest can go die |
| 06:10.29 | cog|book | nah... female NE warriors can stay |
| 06:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | conversely, the only real druids are night elves |
| 06:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | night elf males |
| 06:11.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen will back me up on this one |
| 06:11.13 | cog|book | same for the female NE warriors |
| 06:11.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:11.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, that and hunters/priests |
| 06:11.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but then again the Night elf priestesses of the moon weren't really priests |
| 06:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | they were more huntery |
| 06:12.29 | Corrodias | paladin buff durations increased. finally. |
| 06:12.35 | Nom- | I know |
| 06:12.37 | Nom- | 10 mins and 30 mins |
| 06:12.41 | Nom- | That's like... YAY |
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| 06:13.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially for druids |
| 06:13.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | because giving us all the same buff is rarely useful |
| 06:13.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless it's kings |
| 06:15.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | Nexus Transformation: This recipe to transform a Nexus Crystal into a Small Prismatic Shard has been added to some Enchanting trainers |
| 06:15.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | oooh |
| 06:15.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may do this |
| 06:15.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | or i may sit on my 20+ nexus and see what happens to them now that some recipes that require them are still useful |
| 06:15.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're more rare |
| 06:15.38 | Corrodias | wtf... |
| 06:15.53 | Corrodias | yeah, +15 agility to gloves still takes those, doesn't it? |
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| 06:16.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think, but who wants +15 agi :p |
| 06:16.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe rogues |
| 06:16.15 | Corrodias | what else would you get for tanking on the gloves? |
| 06:16.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | but +26 AP isn't too bad for them |
| 06:17.00 | Corrodias | Sap duration against PvP targets has been reduced to 10 seconds. == HAHA |
| 06:17.03 | Corrodias | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 06:17.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | all CC has |
| 06:17.15 | Nom- | all CC has yea |
| 06:17.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was 12 before |
| 06:17.19 | Antiar1 | Sap's been worthless since the trinket change. |
| 06:17.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was 15 |
| 06:17.21 | Thrae | Corrodias: As has Druids too |
| 06:17.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | then it was 12 |
| 06:17.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | now it's 10 |
| 06:17.33 | Corrodias | you sure? i remember some fun times in AV with stupidly long saps |
| 06:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | that indirectly incrases the power of cyclone |
| 06:17.38 | Corrodias | but that WAS quite a long time ago |
| 06:17.42 | Thrae | Well, Blind is getting a big buff, and there are talents which reduce its cooldown even more |
| 06:17.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, before that it was unlimited in pvp |
| 06:17.52 | Nom- | cyclone is 10 seconds too |
| 06:17.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | cyclone is 6, nom |
| 06:18.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 06:18.06 | Nom- | oh right...pfft well whatever |
| 06:18.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | max of 10 but it only lasts 6, so yeah |
| 06:18.08 | Corrodias | no change to cyclone in 2.2 |
| 06:18.10 | Nom- | i never see it used |
| 06:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | not directly, corr |
| 06:18.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | but because other cc is less useful |
| 06:18.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | cyclone is more useful |
| 06:18.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | still, it takes 3 casts to get the 10 seconds of any other CC |
| 06:18.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you have to time it perfectly to not get stomped |
| 06:19.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone worth anything will be spamming whatever they can to slow down or stop your next cast as soon as they get uncycloned |
| 06:19.55 | Nom- | Unless they're a paladin |
| 06:20.06 | Nom- | In which case they already bubbled out of it and smacked your head in with a mage |
| 06:20.10 | Nom- | mace |
| 06:20.21 | Nom- | >:) |
| 06:21.26 | Nom- | I can't decide between a rogue or warrior for my third character |
| 06:21.33 | ckknight | warrior |
| 06:21.36 | Nom- | MS Warrior looks hell fun |
| 06:21.40 | Nom- | But so does Rogue |
| 06:21.42 | ckknight | rogues are evil |
| 06:21.47 | ckknight | all stealthy and all |
| 06:21.47 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:22.01 | Antiar1 | Warrior eclipses rogues in most every way |
| 06:22.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Nom-> Unless they're a paladin |
| 06:22.06 | Antiar1 | And I say that as someone with a rogue main |
| 06:22.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't bubble out of cyclone |
| 06:22.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | however they can trinket out |
| 06:22.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | cyclone is complete immunity for 6 seconds |
| 06:22.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | from spells and physical damage of any type |
| 06:22.44 | Nom- | pfft |
| 06:22.51 | Nom- | in that case i've NEVER seen it used |
| 06:23.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a short banish that works on most any type of mob |
| 06:23.26 | Nom- | waht spec is cyclone in ? |
| 06:24.12 | Antiarc | All druids hae it |
| 06:24.13 | Antiarc | have* |
| 06:24.24 | Nom- | well then they're nubs :P |
| 06:24.32 | Nom- | I've never seen a druid use cyclone |
| 06:24.37 | Arrowmaster | its usually only used in pvp |
| 06:25.02 | Nom- | And cyclone IS a max duration of 6 seconds not 10 |
| 06:25.16 | Nom- | Yeah, I've been doing arena heaps lately |
| 06:25.21 | Nom- | And even the druids in there don't bother |
| 06:25.27 | Arrowmaster | fully as hell to see a pally BoP somebody then a druid cyclone the person that got BoPed so the pally cant heal them |
| 06:25.31 | Corrodias | due to diminishing returns, it can only be recast for a maximum total duration of 10s |
| 06:25.41 | Corrodias | then you have to wait another 15 i think |
| 06:25.51 | Arrowmaster | funny* |
| 06:26.08 | Nom- | pfft... |
| 06:26.18 | Nom- | Noone has ever been able to stop me healing in arena |
| 06:26.30 | Nom- | Except for this one time when we went up against some guildmates in the 5v5 arena |
| 06:26.34 | Nom- | and i got pummelled |
| 06:26.46 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:27.08 | Nom- | That's where i learnt just how much MS hurts from a well geared warrior :P |
| 06:28.08 | Nom- | 1660 AP unbuffed + 11104 hitpoints unbuffed = ouchies |
| 06:29.22 | Nom- | That was 3500 damage on plate too |
| 06:29.31 | Nom- | i have 13k armor in my healing gear :/ |
| 06:29.37 | Corrodias | "Scholomance o Ras Frostwhisper's Frost Armor Chilled effect is now properly classified as a snare mechanic." -- interesting. they really went on a bug fixing spree in this one. |
| 06:29.54 | Nom- | heh |
| 06:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't understand why this is a .2 yet |
| 06:30.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe it's just a really early build where they want people to test out the mac stuff |
| 06:30.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and made a pc version to keep people from whining |
| 06:30.33 | Nom- | There's some pretty significant class changes |
| 06:30.34 | Nom- | That's why |
| 06:30.35 | Arrowmaster | the voice stuff is in somewhat |
| 06:30.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it's half in |
| 06:30.47 | Corrodias | "# The pitchLimit console command has been re-enabled. " |
| 06:30.52 | Nom- | And yeah, if voice chat is in there (partly) then there yougo |
| 06:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't actually work but the framerate is there |
| 06:30.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 06:31.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | framework |
| 06:31.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and no zul'aman |
| 06:31.36 | Nom- | Zul'Aman will probably be 2.3 |
| 06:31.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | every contrent patch has had a dungeon afaik |
| 06:31.50 | Arrowmaster | some stuff for zul'aman made its way into files i think |
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| 06:31.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:32.01 | ckknight | can anyone make a framexml diff of 2.1.3 => 0.2.0? |
| 06:32.12 | Nom- | 2.3 might not be a content patch |
| 06:32.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet they'll release zul'aman with 2.2 |
| 06:32.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just want people to focus on other stuff |
| 06:32.21 | Nom- | err 2.2 might not be even |
| 06:32.23 | JunkHead-Work | Oh wow. |
| 06:32.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | every 2.x is a content patch |
| 06:32.29 | JunkHead-Work | I'm reading the PTR patch notes now. |
| 06:32.46 | JunkHead-Work | Blessing of Kings, Light, Might, Salvation, Sanctuary and Wisdom increased to 10 minutes. |
| 06:32.46 | JunkHead-Work | Blessing of Sacrifice now has a 1-minute cooldown. |
| 06:32.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.x.y generally are just bugfixes |
| 06:32.53 | Arrowmaster | theres only been two 2.x patch |
| 06:32.55 | JunkHead-Work | Greater Blessing of Kings, Light, Might, Salvation, Sanctuary and Wisdom increased to 30 minutes. |
| 06:33.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know what i mean arrow |
| 06:33.11 | Nom- | Yup, best change ever, JunkHead-Work |
| 06:33.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | the 2nd version number means content patch afaik |
| 06:33.16 | JunkHead-Work | They doubled the length of our Blessings. |
| 06:33.17 | Nom- | Except for the Blessing of Sacrifice change |
| 06:33.22 | Arrowmaster | not all the 1.x patches were content patches |
| 06:33.26 | JunkHead-Work | Nom- Look at the sacrifice cooldown.:( |
| 06:33.42 | JunkHead-Work | I've only used Sacrifice in one boss fight. but it helps a lot. |
| 06:33.43 | Nom- | yeah, i know...probably still can do maiden with it |
| 06:33.48 | JunkHead-Work | It's still doable without it though. |
| 06:33.50 | Corrodias | "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish." :( |
| 06:33.51 | Nom- | But requires thinking and planning instead of just refreshing it |
| 06:34.35 | JunkHead-Work | Seal of Vengeance: The damage from this ability will now stack properly when two different characters are applying Seal of Vengeance effects to a target. |
| 06:34.35 | JunkHead-Work | Woot? |
| 06:34.35 | Nom- | Yeah see the next change too |
| 06:34.43 | Nom- | once it's stacked 5 times, it applies instant damage |
| 06:34.54 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah. I don't get that. |
| 06:35.08 | JunkHead-Work | Is that, like... In addition to judging it? |
| 06:35.14 | Nom- | yea |
| 06:35.23 | JunkHead-Work | I stack ti 5 times, hit a few more for instant damage, then judge? |
| 06:35.26 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm.. wow |
| 06:35.27 | Nom- | because it stacks on crits...right now once you get to 5 stacks, nothing else happens |
| 06:35.46 | Nom- | you get no bonus from the seal on any additional crits |
| 06:35.54 | Nom- | so now it'll actually give you a bonus |
| 06:35.59 | JunkHead-Work | Lightwell: The heals from this ability are now increased by the bonus healing effects on the Priest. |
| 06:36.03 | JunkHead-Work | Still sucks ^ |
| 06:36.06 | Thrae | Five Paladins stacking Seals of Vengeance gain the ability to form Voltron. |
| 06:36.10 | Nom- | maybe not, JunkHead-Work |
| 06:36.17 | Nom- | If it has some really high coefficient on it |
| 06:36.21 | Nom- | like most HoTs do |
| 06:36.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't find the thread where they went into detail about patch info |
| 06:36.36 | JunkHead-Work | I dunno. it will take a lot to make me like Lightwell. |
| 06:36.37 | Thrae | Lightwell == A good place for a Mage to put his Portal To Darnassus! |
| 06:36.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but as far as i know the 2nd version number means content patch |
| 06:37.10 | JunkHead-Work | Blind duration reduced to 8 seconds, cooldown reduced to 1 minute, Blinding Powder is no longer required to use. |
| 06:37.13 | JunkHead-Work | Nice ^ |
| 06:37.17 | Corrodias | they're probably not finished with this patch yet |
| 06:37.29 | Nom- | The 0.5 seconds cast time on Hammer of Wrath now is nice |
| 06:37.47 | Nom- | I'm going to put that back on my hotkeys now :P |
| 06:38.04 | Nom- | Normally i just click on it for the rare occasion i can use it |
| 06:38.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i'm guessing zul'aman will be in, they just dont' want everyone to spend all their time there yet |
| 06:38.09 | Nom- | Now... 0.5 seconds is nice |
| 06:38.31 | Nom- | heh... do they have the gear vendors there this week ? |
| 06:38.40 | Nom- | i want to try a nice retribution set if they have one |
| 06:38.45 | Nom- | see what kinda dps i can push out |
| 06:38.57 | Arrowmaster | i hope they have the gear vendors since they have premades |
| 06:39.09 | Nom- | they have premades??!?!?! |
| 06:39.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:39.27 | Nom- | woooooot |
| 06:39.31 | Nom- | that means it's a pvp test patch |
| 06:39.33 | Nom- | prolly |
| 06:39.45 | Nom- | or at least the current testing phase is for pvp |
| 06:40.40 | Arrowmaster | lol wtf the charcacter copy page says 1 pending and 1 sucuessful |
| 06:40.41 | Corrodias | i wonder if the windowed resolution bug has been fixed |
| 06:40.45 | Nom- | err |
| 06:40.47 | Nom- | no there's no premades |
| 06:41.02 | JunkHead-Work | Question. |
| 06:41.02 | Arrowmaster | oh theres not? i saw the option |
| 06:41.12 | Nom- | Yeah, but it has 0 copies available |
| 06:41.14 | Nom- | go check it again |
| 06:41.17 | JunkHead-Work | The patchnotes state that a lot of enchanting recipes will now be on quartermasters. |
| 06:41.22 | Arrowmaster | ah i didnt actually click it |
| 06:41.23 | JunkHead-Work | Where were they before? |
| 06:41.24 | Nom- | They never removed the links, just always had 0 copies available |
| 06:41.28 | JunkHead-Work | Random drops or something? |
| 06:41.32 | Arrowmaster | JunkHead-Work: drops |
| 06:41.37 | JunkHead-Work | Ok that's cool then. |
| 06:41.43 | Arrowmaster | aq40 drops |
| 06:42.00 | Arrowmaster | will be nice to finally have a subtelty to cloak enchant again |
| 06:42.12 | JunkHead-Work | Ah sweet, I never went to AQ. |
| 06:42.21 | JunkHead-Work | So I will actually get a few new enchants. |
| 06:42.33 | Arrowmaster | since everybody that ever got it on my server ended up transfering |
| 06:42.33 | Arrowmaster | most of them arent that good |
| 06:42.53 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm... |
| 06:43.00 | Arrowmaster | most are spelldamage to gloves or healing to gloves |
| 06:43.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | they really should bring premades back |
| 06:43.06 | JunkHead-Work | Oh well, new enchants are still new though. |
| 06:43.08 | Arrowmaster | and theres better ones of now |
| 06:43.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was good to remove them for 2.0 |
| 06:43.22 | JunkHead-Work | Various crafting recipes have been added to the Violet Eye faction vendor <-- hmm... |
| 06:43.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | so that people would test out the new trees on their own characters |
| 06:43.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but now that we're settled in they should readd them |
| 06:43.44 | Nom- | Yah, i'm going to check it out as soon as I log onto the pTR |
| 06:43.50 | Nom- | see what the Violet Eye has |
| 06:43.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's one at dalaran too |
| 06:43.57 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah i wanna know too. |
| 06:44.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunno hat he's used for |
| 06:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | what* |
| 06:44.05 | Nom- | I might finally be able to make use of my exalted status! |
| 06:44.06 | Nom- | :D |
| 06:44.17 | Nom- | I've been 999 exalted with Violet Eye for sooo long |
| 06:44.22 | Arrowmaster | the darlan guy is for the attunemnent questline |
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| 06:44.31 | Arrowmaster | and other quests |
| 06:44.51 | Nom- | Yah, Dalaran is just a quest mob |
| 06:44.53 | Nom- | Nothing else |
| 06:44.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, that's right Arrowmaster |
| 06:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | be nice if he was useful for something else :[ |
| 06:45.12 | Arrowmaster | no it wouldnt |
| 06:45.17 | Arrowmaster | nobody wants to go there |
| 06:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | while we're working on stuff in that area give alliance a port to scarlet monastery |
| 06:45.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | that run is so painful at 35-39 |
| 06:45.57 | Arrowmaster | hehe love the gnomer port |
| 06:46.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, no one even goes there, but everyone goes to SM :[ |
| 06:46.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell alliance don't even go |
| 06:46.33 | Arrowmaster | have to make sure i get it done on all my chars since the quest is buggy at higher levels |
| 06:46.38 | ckknight | gnomer port? |
| 06:46.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | for horde |
| 06:46.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | they can go from booty bay to gnomer |
| 06:46.55 | Nom- | There's a teleporter to Gnomereagan from Booty Bay |
| 06:46.59 | Nom- | Once you do a quest |
| 06:47.00 | Arrowmaster | and back |
| 06:47.13 | Arrowmaster | used it before when going to ironforge |
| 06:47.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | we should be able to go from hillsbrad to there or something |
| 06:47.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | or wetlands |
| 06:47.37 | Arrowmaster | great way to ditch alliance chasing you |
| 06:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | to SM that is |
| 06:47.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | wetlands would work |
| 06:48.10 | Nom- | pffft |
| 06:48.17 | Nom- | You want everything just handed to you, don't you? |
| 06:48.20 | Nom- | Bloody alliance |
| 06:48.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm on both sides |
| 06:48.35 | Arrowmaster | chilwind point if anything imho |
| 06:48.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | im all about fairness |
| 06:48.58 | Nom- | Well it'd have to be in a neutral town |
| 06:48.59 | Arrowmaster | but adding a port there for only alliance could be bad |
| 06:49.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | why? :O |
| 06:49.16 | Arrowmaster | atleast until horde learn to stop attacking the alliance |
| 06:49.27 | Nom- | pfft |
| 06:49.31 | Nom- | that's not going to happen on a pvp server |
| 06:49.32 | Nom- | ever |
| 06:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | how's that different than booty bay->gnomer? |
| 06:49.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 06:49.50 | Arrowmaster | lots of people actually goto SM |
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| 06:50.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | exactly |
| 06:50.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | SM's right outside a capital for you guys |
| 06:50.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can just hit up UC and BAM you're right outside |
| 06:50.16 | Mike-N-Go | Can a druid skin shapeshifted? |
| 06:50.21 | Corrodias | yes |
| 06:50.21 | Arrowmaster | if there was a port back and forth in SM for alliance i could see a lowbie using it and just waiting around for horde to attack then a 70 use it and kill them |
| 06:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have to manually trek from hillsbrad to there |
| 06:50.28 | Nom- | You've got a fricken decent dungeon IN your capital |
| 06:50.38 | Nom- | RFC is fukn useless |
| 06:50.44 | Arrowmaster | i love rfc! |
| 06:50.47 | Arrowmaster | free hearth |
| 06:50.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | how's that different than horde doing the same at gnomer, arrow? |
| 06:50.54 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 06:50.54 | Nom- | lol that's all we use it for |
| 06:51.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | dude |
| 06:51.03 | Arrowmaster | nobody goes to gnomer |
| 06:51.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | stockades is NOT decent |
| 06:51.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing drops ANYTHING and all the mobs stun and run |
| 06:51.21 | Nom- | It's higher level than RFC |
| 06:51.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | not a single green other than world drops as far as i know |
| 06:51.38 | Arrowmaster | RFC is so bad |
| 06:51.41 | Corrodias | so is your mom |
| 06:51.43 | Nom- | By the time Belf people even make it to RFC they're already high enough to solo it |
| 06:51.46 | Arrowmaster | ive 2maned it before on an alt |
| 06:51.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like it |
| 06:51.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's fast exp |
| 06:52.02 | JunkHead-Work | The following old-world factions have had their acquisition rate significantly increased: Cenarion Circle, Argent Dawn, Timbermaw Hold. |
| 06:52.09 | JunkHead-Work | This is nice too. |
| 06:52.11 | Nom- | It's not Mr_Rabies2 |
| 06:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | stockades is crap exp because you're always dying because the mobs stun you an run off |
| 06:52.16 | Arrowmaster | i need to get exalted with timbermaw still |
| 06:52.28 | Nom- | You can do 1-20 on a blood elf |
| 06:52.31 | JunkHead-Work | I need to get... I dunno. probably friendly. |
| 06:52.34 | JunkHead-Work | I hated that grind. |
| 06:52.41 | Nom- | and by the time you're out, you're even too high level for Wailing Caverns |
| 06:52.46 | Arrowmaster | i think im only neutral or friendly |
| 06:53.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one runs stockades because it's awful |
| 06:53.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | rfc's at least fairly fun to do |
| 06:53.11 | Arrowmaster | is not |
| 06:53.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | why not? it's like mc lite |
| 06:53.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | with troggs |
| 06:53.31 | Arrowmaster | it brings back bad memories of MC |
| 06:53.34 | Nom- | RFC is boring lol |
| 06:53.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | most old world instances are |
| 06:53.55 | Nom- | The only reason to run it is to get linen cloth for tailoring |
| 06:53.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | notable exceptions being SM and dire maul north |
| 06:54.00 | Arrowmaster | most instances up till SM are just zerg shit down |
| 06:54.13 | Nom- | In fact, that's what i'm going to use it for |
| 06:54.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | scholo and strat aren't too bad but i ran them way too much |
| 06:54.23 | Nom- | Speaking of which...what's a good AoE grinding instance for wool cloth ? |
| 06:54.32 | Nom- | I solo strat and scholo |
| 06:54.35 | Arrowmaster | lol we had alliance mages farming linen in RFC during the aq opening |
| 06:54.36 | Nom- | solomance |
| 06:54.39 | JunkHead-Work | [01:57:07] <Mr_Rabies2> most old world instances are <-- Dead Mines! |
| 06:54.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't solo either, nom |
| 06:54.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything hits me too hard |
| 06:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, deadmines is awesome |
| 06:54.53 | Nom- | You're a druid? |
| 06:54.54 | Nom- | WTF |
| 06:54.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 06:55.02 | Nom- | Are you 70 yet ? |
| 06:55.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | either it hits me too hard or i die because i do no damage to them |
| 06:55.15 | JunkHead-Work | Deadmines, Scarlet Monestary, Stratholme, Zul'Farrak... |
| 06:55.16 | Arrowmaster | are you feral? |
| 06:55.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no middle ground |
| 06:55.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 06:55.26 | Arrowmaster | you suck then |
| 06:55.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | bear form dps is abysmal at best |
| 06:55.29 | JunkHead-Work | I think that's about it for Old World dungeons I like. |
| 06:55.30 | Nom- | Feral Druid in bear form should be able to solo that easily |
| 06:55.33 | Nom- | Dude |
| 06:55.37 | Nom- | Bear form DPS is insane |
| 06:55.40 | Nom- | You just don't have the right gear |
| 06:55.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could solo it pre mangle nerf |
| 06:55.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do like |
| 06:55.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | 100 dps at the most |
| 06:55.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | in bear |
| 06:55.51 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 06:55.56 | JunkHead-Work | I made a new character. He's a Druid named Whompy. |
| 06:55.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | mangle crits for 1600 at the absolute most |
| 06:56.00 | Nom- | err wtf? |
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| 06:56.03 | JunkHead-Work | Imagine it, a Bear named Whompy. |
| 06:56.06 | Nom- | the aoe groups your THORNS would be doing 100dps |
| 06:56.07 | JunkHead-Work | That's funny to me. |
| 06:56.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably, but i mean my dps |
| 06:56.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | thorns doesn't really count towards that |
| 06:56.26 | Arrowmaster | feral druids can solo like all the old world 5 mans |
| 06:56.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could pre feral nerf |
| 06:56.41 | Arrowmaster | can even solo ubrs to the first boss |
| 06:56.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | pre bear nerf* |
| 06:56.46 | Nom- | swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, regeneration, swipe, swipe, swipe, dead |
| 06:56.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | swipe hits for 100 or so |
| 06:56.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | crits for 300 |
| 06:56.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like, nothing |
| 06:57.06 | Nom- | but it hits several mobs |
| 06:57.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 |
| 06:57.10 | Nom- | that's your dps...aoe dps |
| 06:57.17 | Arrowmaster | still with ILotP you shouldnt die |
| 06:57.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it hits 3 mobs for 100 damage |
| 06:57.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can solo the trash |
| 06:57.29 | Nom- | get more AP then |
| 06:57.40 | Nom- | well you should be cat form on the bosses |
| 06:57.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i lose armor |
| 06:57.44 | Nom- | bear form for the trash |
| 06:57.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 06:57.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get killed too fast in cat |
| 06:57.58 | Nom- | then your gear sucks :) |
| 06:58.09 | Punkie` | ? |
| 06:58.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah go for pure STR, dont go for AGI or armor or dodge or any of that just STR AP and crit |
| 06:58.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do a shitload of dps in cat gear but i get owned |
| 06:58.13 | Nom- | I was soloing stratholme in prot gear right after getting level 70 |
| 06:58.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | arrow |
| 06:58.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | you get more AP in the long run if you get the AP stuff |
| 06:58.29 | JunkHead-Work | I haven't tried Solo'ing anything on my Mage. |
| 06:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | because there's no good +str stuff other than the tier sets |
| 06:58.42 | JunkHead-Work | But on my Paladin I've done quite a few solo. |
| 06:58.46 | Arrowmaster | well you know what i mean |
| 06:58.47 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: Stratholme is easy to solo... mages were soling it at level 60 |
| 06:58.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a decent amount of agi |
| 06:59.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but agi > crit rating |
| 06:59.02 | Arrowmaster | go for pure dps increasing stats and try to avoid the tanking stats |
| 06:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | by far |
| 06:59.10 | JunkHead-Work | Nom wouldn't the mobs hit a mage kinda hard though? |
| 06:59.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah but you dont want dodge |
| 06:59.16 | Nom- | frost spec |
| 06:59.17 | Arrowmaster | or armor |
| 06:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's much more DPS |
| 06:59.21 | JunkHead-Work | Ah true. |
| 06:59.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | per point |
| 06:59.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | than crit rating |
| 06:59.28 | Nom- | ice barrior/pet to hold aggro |
| 06:59.29 | Nom- | easy as |
| 06:59.35 | JunkHead-Work | I'll skip Strat then. I'm not frost specced. |
| 06:59.43 | Nom- | solomance then |
| 06:59.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's 1 ap per, plus just a little less crit than crit rating per item point, Arrowmaster |
| 06:59.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 07:00.00 | JunkHead-Work | I've only been to Scholo a few times period. |
| 07:00.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've done scholo probably 200-300 times |
| 07:00.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | strat about the same |
| 07:00.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah same |
| 07:00.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've done deadmines probably 1000 times or so |
| 07:00.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can tell you exactly when the patrols after each boss will show up |
| 07:01.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love it |
| 07:01.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously though |
| 07:02.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | baron hits me way too hard or i can't outdps his healing, or anub hits me way too hard or i can't dps him down before all the scarabs drop me |
| 07:02.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the trash isn't a problem |
| 07:02.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i can stealth by all the trash |
| 07:02.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can probably do scarlet side okay |
| 07:02.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than maybe balthazar |
| 07:03.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | because he has shadow damage |
| 07:03.36 | Corrodias | you'll resist quite a bit of it |
| 07:04.09 | Guillotine | soloing scarlet side is easy |
| 07:04.19 | Guillotine | did it at 66 |
| 07:04.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but undead side is too much damage for mine |
| 07:04.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get killed well before i can kill them regardless of gear |
| 07:04.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only difference is how long it takes |
| 07:04.46 | Nom- | http://youtube.com/watch?v=y3lqR0QAUmQ <-- post-60 solo strat |
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| 07:08.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was odd |
| 07:08.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | it wouldn't let me connect to freenode |
| 07:08.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | only freenode though |
| 07:08.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | all other networks stayed up O_o |
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| 07:11.23 | Nom- | as a frost mage it's very easy to solo in there |
| 07:11.26 | Nom- | other builds are harder |
| 07:11.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh, bug reporter enabled on the ptr = awesome |
| 07:11.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't survive their damage long enough to kill them regardless of form |
| 07:11.39 | Nom- | yeah they had that there last time too Mr_Rabies2 |
| 07:11.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | not last time :P |
| 07:11.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but a while ago yeah |
| 07:11.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think 2.1 |
| 07:12.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.1.0 |
| 07:12.06 | Nom- | Seriously though, Paladin would have to be _the_ best to solo in there |
| 07:12.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course |
| 07:12.15 | Nom- | The place was practically built for Paladin tanks |
| 07:12.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy wrath, exorcism, instance dies |
| 07:12.26 | Nom- | And to be honest, so was Karazhan |
| 07:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | he could probably kite everything but bosses |
| 07:12.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | then burn it all down before dying |
| 07:12.51 | Nom- | Well, the only boss I couldn't solo was the key guy |
| 07:12.57 | Nom- | The one which drops the backdoor key |
| 07:13.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i solo'd him at 60 :p |
| 07:13.07 | Nom- | That was purely a DPS problem because he enrages and does more & more damage |
| 07:13.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did more damage at 60 in bear form |
| 07:13.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yeah :P |
| 07:13.39 | Nom- | yah well for pally you have to stop dps to heal |
| 07:13.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know of an addon which toggles combat log logging to other people in the party/raid? |
| 07:13.48 | Nom- | bear form has an advantage there |
| 07:13.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have to stop wearing plate to heal |
| 07:13.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to know if it exists before I go code it |
| 07:13.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | and dps |
| 07:14.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, we have frenzied regen but that's awful |
| 07:14.17 | Nom- | no its not lol |
| 07:14.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather be able to drink a health potion |
| 07:14.29 | Nom- | It's one of the most useful skills for Druid bears |
| 07:14.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's instant, has less of a cooldown, and heals for around the same |
| 07:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | and doesn't eat my rage |
| 07:14.47 | Nom- | pfft |
| 07:14.53 | Nom- | druids have too much rage :P |
| 07:15.06 | Nom- | They can holy aggro nearly as well as Paladins |
| 07:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2500 over 10 seconds is not amazing |
| 07:15.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's abysmal |
| 07:15.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially on a 3 min cooldown |
| 07:15.36 | Nom- | err it's % based now... |
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| 07:15.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 07:15.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | its not |
| 07:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | its 2500 over 10 |
| 07:16.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26999 |
| 07:16.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | well 2500 over 10 if you have 100 rage |
| 07:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | less so with less rage |
| 07:16.25 | Nom- | hmmm i thought they changed it last major patch |
| 07:16.33 | Nom- | or were they going to, and then canned it |
| 07:16.36 | Nom- | maybe i'm thinking of mana tide |
| 07:16.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26999#M0z |
| 07:16.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, it never did |
| 07:16.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | was 2000/10 at 60 |
| 07:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | which was..okay at most |
| 07:17.06 | Nom- | Must be thinking of mana tide then |
| 07:17.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | since i had almost 10000 hp at 60 raid buffed |
| 07:17.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it wasn't great |
| 07:17.26 | Nom- | Ya 6% per tick on mana tide...that's what i was thinking of |
| 07:17.56 | Nom- | pfft you're a bear...there has to be some price to pay for being a hybrid :P |
| 07:18.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | we pay too many :[ |
| 07:18.16 | Nom- | not really |
| 07:18.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could list them all |
| 07:18.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm not going to because i'm tired of doing it |
| 07:18.36 | Nom- | most of them are compensated by the fact you have 20k hitpoints and 30k armor before really hitting any substantial raid content |
| 07:18.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | not at all |
| 07:19.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm raiding and have 18k armor raid buffed and 22k |
| 07:19.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 07:19.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | 18k hp 22k armor |
| 07:19.20 | Nom- | Your gear isn't that good then :) |
| 07:19.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and am considered well geared |
| 07:19.40 | Guillotine | thats about TK geared |
| 07:19.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, i've got pretty good pre-kara/kara mix |
| 07:20.00 | Guillotine | oh,I read that as 32k armor |
| 07:20.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | want me to list them? i'll pastey them if you want |
| 07:21.41 | Nom- | Seriously...there's a druid on my server who hasn't even run Kara yet |
| 07:21.48 | Nom- | Has 30k armor and 20k hitpoints fully buffed |
| 07:22.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's his name? |
| 07:22.09 | Nom- | I can't recall lol |
| 07:22.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 07:22.15 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.2 PTR is up |
| 07:22.16 | Nom- | Otherwise i'd link it |
| 07:22.18 | Guillotine | thats not possible before kara |
| 07:22.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need proof or this means nothing |
| 07:22.22 | Guillotine | at all |
| 07:22.24 | Nom- | Sure it is |
| 07:22.30 | TC-Holding | full season 2 set? |
| 07:22.30 | Nom- | I think he's done arena though |
| 07:22.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it's like post kara/gruul level |
| 07:22.35 | Guillotine | I'm in full kara gear and have 28k armor and 15k hp |
| 07:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | They have *mac* video recording built in game now - but not for PC. |
| 07:22.37 | ScytheBlade1 | w t f. |
| 07:22.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, yeah arenas count towards that, nom |
| 07:22.57 | Nom- | Yah, the arena gear is fukn awesome... |
| 07:23.03 | krka | maybe it's really easy to do on mac |
| 07:23.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really, but it gives you a ton of hp and armor |
| 07:23.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty bad for tanking though |
| 07:23.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | no defense or dodge |
| 07:23.23 | Nom- | Yeah, there's some roles it's not suited for |
| 07:23.31 | Nom- | But DPS is a role which is perfectly suited for |
| 07:23.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty good for it |
| 07:23.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of better stuff |
| 07:23.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a good all around set |
| 07:24.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it wastes too many points on stuff we don't need |
| 07:24.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | like crit rating, int, spirit, healing, and the like |
| 07:24.28 | Nom- | I'm debating on whether I go prot this weekend or not :) |
| 07:24.36 | Nom- | It's been a while since I did tanking |
| 07:24.43 | Nom- | And I'd like to try again now that I've got ubergear |
| 07:24.51 | JunkHead-Work | I need to try to get my Mage into Karazhan soon. |
| 07:24.57 | JunkHead-Work | She needs some upgrades.:\ |
| 07:25.24 | JunkHead-Work | I'm still wearing some lvl 60-61 stuff. |
| 07:25.26 | Nom- | 300 spell damage, 14k armor, 13k hitpoints, 510 defense, 104% avoidance |
| 07:25.34 | Nom- | Legenendary... |
| 07:25.55 | Nom- | That's all unbuffed too :) |
| 07:26.00 | Guillotine | wtf. you can't cyclone two people at once now? Cyclone is bad enough as is in PvE -_- |
| 07:26.13 | Guillotine | ROFL. and they reduced the duration of ER |
| 07:26.35 | Maldivia | uhh... 2.2 PTR... |
| 07:26.53 | Guillotine | what? yah, I know its PTR |
| 07:26.59 | Guillotine | but *most* changes make it through |
| 07:27.17 | Nom- | ER ? |
| 07:27.45 | JunkHead-Work | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Scaz <--- WTB new pants/boots. |
| 07:28.24 | Nom- | mana etched :) |
| 07:28.50 | Nom- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27907 |
| 07:29.19 | JunkHead-Work | Eww.. Underbog is da devil! |
| 07:30.01 | Guillotine | damn, pallys are going to be happy about the buff changes |
| 07:30.10 | JunkHead-Work | Yes. we already are. |
| 07:30.35 | Nom- | Shattrath Jumpers for the boots maybe |
| 07:30.38 | Nom- | Slight upgade |
| 07:30.48 | JunkHead-Work | got a link by chance? |
| 07:31.01 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=28179 |
| 07:31.08 | Nom- | Shadow Labrinth quest reward |
| 07:31.18 | JunkHead-Work | Ah cool. I have that quest too. |
| 07:31.24 | Nom- | only very slight upgrade |
| 07:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | <+Guillotine> wtf. you can't cyclone two people at once now? Cyclone is bad enough as is in PvE -_- |
| 07:31.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | you never could afaik |
| 07:31.31 | Nom- | probably wnat heroics too |
| 07:31.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you were exploiting a bug |
| 07:31.40 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies sure you can |
| 07:31.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | which i have no idea how to |
| 07:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | WHOO |
| 07:31.44 | ScytheBlade1 | PTR HAS VOICE CHAT |
| 07:31.47 | Guillotine | there was never a limit on cyclone |
| 07:31.54 | Guillotine | there was on ER |
| 07:31.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure there was |
| 07:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | Tosses the enemy target into the air, preventing all action but making them invulnerable for up to 6 sec. Only one target can be affected by your Cyclone at a time. |
| 07:32.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | so the tooltip musta been wrong |
| 07:32.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i've never been able to |
| 07:32.37 | Guillotine | well, it works in PvP at least o.O |
| 07:32.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've tried before |
| 07:32.46 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 07:32.48 | Guillotine | maybe it was an arena-only bug |
| 07:32.56 | Guillotine | or something specific to a talent? |
| 07:33.21 | Nom- | or these ones |
| 07:33.28 | Nom- | from arcatraz |
| 07:33.31 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=28406 |
| 07:33.41 | Nom- | Once gemmed up they'll be quite a bit better |
| 07:34.14 | JunkHead-Work | OoOoO |
| 07:34.16 | JunkHead-Work | I like. |
| 07:34.19 | Guillotine | damn, I like the blind changes. for my rogue at least |
| 07:34.48 | JunkHead-Work | And Arc is one of the instances I'm doing a lot of lately while I work on my rep. |
| 07:35.03 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-129-181.citizip.com) |
| 07:35.50 | Maldivia | uhh... the AQ enchating recipees can now be bought from lower city vendor... |
| 07:35.59 | Nom- | Heroic Old Hillsbrad has some nice ones |
| 07:36.17 | JunkHead-Work | Don't have that key yet. |
| 07:36.22 | Nom- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=28212 |
| 07:36.25 | JunkHead-Work | Need about 1k rep to hit revered. |
| 07:36.37 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: uh-oh |
| 07:36.41 | Nom- | 1k rep is EASY |
| 07:36.45 | Nom- | Just run BM again |
| 07:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Xuerian, ? |
| 07:37.07 | JunkHead-Work | I hate BM. I'd rather run Hills instead. |
| 07:37.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh i think there was an arena bug you could exploit guillo |
| 07:37.14 | Nom- | I would do your best to boost your stamina/spell damage/int if you can |
| 07:37.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | MOMMMMM I WANT CHOCOLATE MILLLLK |
| 07:37.43 | Nom- | You're in much better shape than my mage is, but you want about 700+ base from gear before you hit heroics |
| 07:37.54 | JunkHead-Work | I've done two heroics so far. |
| 07:37.57 | Nom- | my mage hasn't been geared up though :) |
| 07:37.59 | JunkHead-Work | Ramparts and Slave Pens. |
| 07:38.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | Nom |
| 07:38.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | I'm sure there's more i'll think of later |
| 07:38.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | but here ya go: http://pastey.net/70728-44b1 |
| 07:38.13 | Nom- | as arcane though, you can hit real hard without pulling, so it's not too bad |
| 07:38.55 | JunkHead-Work | Also, my damage for arcane/fire is 760.:P |
| 07:38.56 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: 1) You're a bear...you don't have opposable thumbs...there has to be some penalty to being a bear otherwise there would be no need for warriors. |
| 07:39.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure there would |
| 07:39.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no reason for priests then since we can heal? |
| 07:39.18 | Xuerian | Nom-: Can't parry, can't block. |
| 07:39.27 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: 4) That's why you get things like +agi, +str |
| 07:39.43 | Nom- | Xuerian: So? |
| 07:39.48 | Nom- | That's why bears stack dodge |
| 07:40.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | dodge is no replacement for parrying or blocking |
| 07:40.04 | Nom- | They're not designed to have all those high defenses like a warrior, otherwise they might as well called it "Warrior Form" |
| 07:40.14 | JunkHead-Work | I'd link a couple of our guild Bear Tanks but noone logged out in bear form I don't guess. |
| 07:40.21 | JunkHead-Work | Not even sure how that works though. |
| 07:40.39 | Nom- | 7) Duh... |
| 07:40.39 | JunkHead-Work | Would armory show the armor increase and stuf if you lgged out in bear form? |
| 07:40.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | A Druid in normal form is a caster that can fight with spells or weapons. In Bear form the Druid becomes a Warrior with Rage. While in Cat form the Druid becomes a Rogue with Energy and stealth. |
| 07:40.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, junk |
| 07:40.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | most people don't though because of the rage bug |
| 07:40.57 | JunkHead-Work | Ah well then I guess niether did. |
| 07:41.03 | Xuerian | nom-: We have to gear for it (And it's harder to gear for), we have to spec for it (And loose other abilities), and we have to argue over it (OMG NERF DRUIDS), What's the big malfunction? |
| 07:41.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | xue |
| 07:41.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | read this |
| 07:41.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | but here ya go: http://pastey.net/70728-44b1 |
| 07:41.21 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:41.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | tell me if you disagree |
| 07:41.26 | Nom- | Warriors have to spec to tank too |
| 07:41.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | with any |
| 07:41.28 | Nom- | As do Paladins |
| 07:41.37 | Nom- | So you're not in any kind of unique situation |
| 07:41.44 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.44 | Nom- | IN fact, you have an advantage over warrior and paladin |
| 07:41.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | no it's not xue? |
| 07:41.51 | Nom- | That you can actually DPS in the same spec as Tank |
| 07:41.53 | Xuerian | Not? |
| 07:41.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | when did they change that? |
| 07:41.57 | Xuerian | Been told it was o_0 |
| 07:42.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was in for a while |
| 07:42.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | then they removed it |
| 07:42.07 | Xuerian | Ah |
| 07:42.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | in beta |
| 07:42.08 | Xuerian | Well |
| 07:42.11 | Xuerian | <--- changed back* |
| 07:42.13 | Xuerian | :p |
| 07:42.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | for bc |
| 07:42.25 | Nom- | 10) Neither do Paladins |
| 07:42.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | they said they wouldn't put it in because it was too difficult to code |
| 07:42.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | then they did |
| 07:42.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then said it was a bug that they put it in |
| 07:42.47 | Nom- | In fact, in that regard, you're better off than paladins |
| 07:42.57 | Nom- | We have one stun on a 1 minute cooldown |
| 07:43.07 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: I agree with all of it |
| 07:43.09 | Nom- | You have charge, bash, cat form, entangling roots |
| 07:43.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | charge isn't a cc |
| 07:43.17 | Nom- | travel form |
| 07:43.24 | Nom- | no but it closes the gap |
| 07:43.29 | Xuerian | Nom-: Jack of all trades, master of none |
| 07:43.47 | Xuerian | That's the whole point of druids, we CAN do everything. Get someone who is made to do it, and they ARE going to do it better |
| 07:43.48 | Nom- | Druids are not a CC class |
| 07:43.53 | Nom- | Paladins don't have CC either |
| 07:44.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i agree with some of the reasons we're worse off than otehrs |
| 07:44.04 | Nom- | Only Turn Undead which is VERY situational |
| 07:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but all of them stacked is way too much against us |
| 07:44.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | roots isn't a reliable cc |
| 07:44.18 | Nom- | pffffft |
| 07:44.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it breaks on its own all the time |
| 07:44.37 | Nom- | But for closing the distance in pvp especially |
| 07:44.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | cat form only closes the gap while outdoors |
| 07:44.41 | Nom- | you have so much available |
| 07:44.43 | Xuerian | If you're talking about pvp, roots is nice |
| 07:44.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's okay |
| 07:44.49 | Xuerian | If you're talking about instances, don't make me laugh |
| 07:44.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally it's not great though |
| 07:44.59 | Xuerian | think about how many instances are actually outside |
| 07:45.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | because often it breaks before i even get back into a form |
| 07:45.05 | Xuerian | (or anywhere roots works) |
| 07:45.22 | JunkHead-Work | I never understood that anyway. |
| 07:45.27 | JunkHead-Work | Roots only working outside. |
| 07:45.30 | Nom- | Seriously though... you have a lot of advantages |
| 07:45.34 | JunkHead-Work | That's just dumb. |
| 07:45.38 | Xuerian | Gotta grow from somewhere =X |
| 07:45.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't have many nom |
| 07:45.44 | Nom- | And without playing a Paladin you don't know just how much you have over us |
| 07:45.49 | JunkHead-Work | Xuerian - lots of instances have dirt. |
| 07:45.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the disadvantages outweigh the advantages |
| 07:45.56 | Xuerian | Nom-: I don't care how much we have over paladins |
| 07:46.00 | Xuerian | Nom-: They still own my face |
| 07:46.05 | Xuerian | And own it hard |
| 07:46.06 | Nom- | Then you suck :P |
| 07:46.17 | Xuerian | fine |
| 07:46.24 | Xuerian | They own my face disproportionately more than other classes |
| 07:46.25 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 07:46.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know a feral druid that can beat a paladin that's geared similarly |
| 07:46.33 | Nom- | A smart druid can easily kill a paladin unless they're in a very narrow range of specs |
| 07:46.51 | Nom- | a holy paladin for instance can probably outheal any damage you do without using too much mana |
| 07:46.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | except the freak occurance when i can stunlock one because a lucky chain of crits |
| 07:46.58 | JunkHead-Work | http://pastey.net/70729 |
| 07:47.00 | Nom- | whereas a protection paladin will typically get pounded into the ground |
| 07:47.00 | JunkHead-Work | I win. |
| 07:47.11 | Xuerian | lol |
| 07:47.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | prot paladins tear me up nom |
| 07:47.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | all paladins do |
| 07:47.27 | Nom- | Then you aren'y using the right tactics |
| 07:47.29 | Xuerian | Nom-: You must've been sodomized by a druid in your wow childhood |
| 07:47.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | what am i supposed to be doing to them? |
| 07:47.38 | JunkHead-Work | Next on maury! |
| 07:47.46 | Nom- | Actually many times, Xuerian ... didn't start pwning them until i went holy |
| 07:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | stunlocking the rare one is about the only thing i can do to beat them |
| 07:47.59 | Nom- | errr |
| 07:48.03 | Nom- | hit and run in cat form |
| 07:48.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that doesn't work on prot paladins |
| 07:48.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hit and run? i can't do any damage if i'm running away |
| 07:48.22 | Nom- | run in stack the bleeds, ren out |
| 07:48.25 | Nom- | *run out |
| 07:48.28 | JunkHead-Work | Tie nails to your tail! |
| 07:48.42 | Nom- | wait until paladin heals, then charge in to break the heal, stack bleeds again |
| 07:48.48 | JunkHead-Work | It'll be like... a Flail on your butt. |
| 07:48.49 | Xuerian | Then he heals, then I come in to hit and he hits me more, we repeat. in teh end, I have less health, and I have to use 3x the mana to heal because I have to shift back into form once I'm done |
| 07:49.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can pretty easily outheal bleeds alone |
| 07:49.08 | Nom- | Not if you're smart... |
| 07:49.17 | Xuerian | Nom-: BUT I'M NOT SMART |
| 07:49.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | ferocious bite is about |
| 07:49.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | 250 dps or so |
| 07:49.21 | Xuerian | so shattup |
| 07:49.23 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 07:49.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to check out what changed in the UI! |
| 07:49.33 | Nom- | Seriously...bleed ftw against plate |
| 07:49.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you can't outheal that without someone on you you need to regear |
| 07:49.43 | JunkHead-Work | I wish i had mroe to add to this topic other than crappy jokes. |
| 07:49.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus you've got judgement of justice |
| 07:49.53 | JunkHead-Work | But I don't PvP, so just deal with my crappy jokes. |
| 07:49.54 | Xuerian | JunkHead-Work: It's about as relevant =\ |
| 07:50.00 | Nom- | It's not just about doing it once, it's about stopping them from healing once you've done the first strike |
| 07:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you see a druid trying to hit and run just hit him with that and he's fucked |
| 07:50.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i gotta change into bear when i see you healing and hope |
| 07:50.23 | Nom- | Which is not hard to do...eventually the pally will bubble, then you heal yourself then (and only then if you're doing it right) |
| 07:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | that i catch your 2.5 second heal in time |
| 07:50.40 | Guillotine | apparently the PTR client needs 157 GB. I have 156 free and it tells me that I don't have enough room and to clear 900 more mb :( |
| 07:50.56 | Xuerian | Nom-: Hats off to you, you seem to be a very well skilled druid. I'm not, and I know there's lots the same as me (and many less, no doubt). If we played our class perfectly, we'd be uber. Then again, if everyone else played their classes perfectly, they'd be uber too |
| 07:50.58 | Xuerian | Then what? |
| 07:50.59 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah dude. |
| 07:50.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | is wow not installed on your C: drive, guillo? |
| 07:51.10 | Nom- | Xuerian: I'm not a druid...i'm a pally |
| 07:51.11 | JunkHead-Work | WoW got big with this patch. |
| 07:51.11 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies2: it is. in the default place |
| 07:51.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 07:51.15 | Guillotine | in Program Files |
| 07:51.16 | Nom- | Xuerian: I'm telling you what works :) |
| 07:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | Nom, i've tried that |
| 07:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it doesn't work |
| 07:51.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | pally just stuns me and burns me down or heals through my bleed |
| 07:51.48 | Nom- | They may have been in that narrow range of specs i was talking about then |
| 07:52.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | or possibly even judges me with justice if he's smart and keeps right up with me if i try to run off |
| 07:52.04 | Nom- | Without some skills from holy, a paladin will go OOM too fast from the hit and run bleed tactics |
| 07:52.06 | JunkHead-Work | One day, while waiting for Gruul's Lair raid to start, we sat back and had our Prot Warrior MT and feral Druid MT duel. |
| 07:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah, even a prot pally can heal through 250 dps pretty easily |
| 07:52.18 | Guillotine | damn, this things downloading fast for such a big file |
| 07:52.22 | JunkHead-Work | Using nothing but basic attacks.:P |
| 07:52.23 | Xuerian | I used to do that in my old guild all the time |
| 07:52.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's 48 mb, guillo |
| 07:52.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 07:52.26 | Nom- | Yes, but you have to realise |
| 07:52.29 | Guillotine | I know |
| 07:52.32 | JunkHead-Work | We lost interest after about 8-9 minutes. |
| 07:52.34 | Nom- | Druid vs Paladin is a question of who runs OOM first |
| 07:52.38 | Guillotine | and mine has already completed 8mb |
| 07:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've dueled a paladin for an hour and a half |
| 07:52.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | only gave up when i got bored |
| 07:52.47 | Guillotine | estimated 8 mins total XD |
| 07:52.48 | JunkHead-Work | You were bored. |
| 07:52.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | it would have literally gone on for hours |
| 07:53.00 | Nom- | That's why you'll see that most paladins put up JoW when fighting druids |
| 07:53.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, if dueling |
| 07:53.15 | Nom- | They need to get mana from hitting you otherwise you'll just wear us down |
| 07:53.20 | JunkHead-Work | I remember one day, someone yelling out in Trade, "hey everyone 2 resto druids dueling outside SW" |
| 07:53.29 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah... I didn't even bother going to watch. |
| 07:53.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's generally because when dueling most people use bear form on pallies |
| 07:53.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | when in arena it's a different story |
| 07:53.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the pally can just ignore you and kill someone else |
| 07:53.48 | Nom- | bear form is a mistake yea |
| 07:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | or help the guy killing someone else |
| 07:53.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Err ftw |
| 07:54.00 | Nom- | Paladin can deal a lot of damage to heavily armored classes |
| 07:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | patch.MPQ has the feedback UI enabled |
| 07:54.09 | ScytheBlade1 | But no nothing for the voice chat |
| 07:54.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Note to all: WoWWiki can now be edited without registering - hope it makes it easier for people to make updates :) |
| 07:54.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, but not as much to me in cat form |
| 07:54.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Despite posted screenshots of it existing :/ |
| 07:54.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | in cat form i have about 3000 armor or so |
| 07:54.29 | JunkHead-Work | I'm still waiting for Blizzard to implement one change in the UI. |
| 07:54.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | Scythe: the frame's there |
| 07:54.33 | Nom- | Especially a holy paladin...holy paladins have around 90% of their DPS from holy damage |
| 07:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Mr_Rabies, what file? |
| 07:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the sound option says sound/audio |
| 07:54.41 | JunkHead-Work | And it really is a no brainer... |
| 07:54.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, i saw it on the ptr |
| 07:54.47 | Guillotine | JunkHead: what change? |
| 07:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I can't find it in the MPQ |
| 07:54.55 | JunkHead-Work | Goddamn mobile frames. |
| 07:55.18 | Guillotine | I just want them to make server date accessible along with server time -_- |
| 07:55.18 | Nom- | After all, in reality Paladin is the best comparison for a druid |
| 07:55.24 | Nom- | They're the closest hybrid |
| 07:55.25 | JunkHead-Work | I have no idea why that hasn't been put in the default UI yet. |
| 07:55.41 | JunkHead-Work | All I want to do, is move my character window.... why can't I? |
| 07:55.49 | JunkHead-Work | Gotta use a damn addon to be able to.:( |
| 07:55.52 | Nom- | But in all seriousness |
| 07:56.01 | Nom- | Paladin has just as many deficiencies when it comes to tanking |
| 07:56.21 | Nom- | And to make things worse, we have to fight to get recognition for a tanking role |
| 07:56.26 | Nom- | Especially Horde Paladins |
| 07:56.38 | Nom- | As a DPS role, it's even worse |
| 07:56.45 | JunkHead-Work | We did uhh... Sv the other day with a Prot Palaidn. |
| 07:56.48 | JunkHead-Work | He did very well. |
| 07:56.59 | Nom- | Yeah, they do...but noone believe it until they see it |
| 07:57.03 | JunkHead-Work | He wa sone of those people who want to go as fast as possible in an instance. |
| 07:57.11 | JunkHead-Work | I already believed it. |
| 07:57.12 | Nom- | And most people get scarred by some noob who has no clue how to tank as a paladin |
| 07:57.19 | Guillotine | nah, pallys can tank far better than druids. purely due to the fact that druids can't mitigate crushing blows, and the way they scale with boss damage |
| 07:57.19 | JunkHead-Work | My friend who is a holy priest didn't. |
| 07:57.21 | Nom- | And then never use a pally tank again |
| 07:57.22 | JunkHead-Work | Now she does. |
| 07:57.40 | Guillotine | yup. our guild has 1 group with a druid MT and 2 with pally MTs |
| 07:57.43 | Nom- | Guillotine: Beleive it or not, paladin tanking scales better than warriors on many bosses :) |
| 07:57.50 | Guillotine | Nom- I know :) |
| 07:57.56 | Nom- | Same as druid tanking scales better on some bosses |
| 07:58.33 | Guillotine | and druid scaling scales horribly on hard hitting bosses (e.g. prince) purely due to the fact that they can't stop crushign blows |
| 07:58.33 | Nom- | Gruul for instance...no one in their right mind would use a paladin or warrior as the OT for Gruul |
| 07:58.33 | krka | mage tanking ftw! |
| 07:58.33 | krka | frost shield! |
| 07:58.48 | JunkHead-Work | For Gruul we have a Warrior MT, Druid OT, and a 3rd tank, either a warrior or druid, depending on who came. |
| 07:58.52 | Nom- | Guillotine: That's why druids have such high armor tho...so even tho they get crushed, it doesn't hit as hard as a crush on a warrior |
| 07:58.56 | Nom- | In theory at least |
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| 07:59.01 | Guillotine | right |
| 07:59.02 | Nom- | In practice that's rarely the case :( |
| 07:59.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i missed something |
| 07:59.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | what did i miss |
| 07:59.26 | JunkHead-Work | [03:02:15] <Nom-> Guillotine: That's why druids have such high armor tho...so even tho they get crushed, it doesn't hit as hard as a crush on a warrior |
| 07:59.30 | JunkHead-Work | [03:02:19] <Nom-> In theory at least |
| 07:59.34 | JunkHead-Work | [03:02:24] <Guillotine> right |
| 07:59.34 | JunkHead-Work | [03:02:25] <Nom-> In practice that's rarely the case :( |
| 07:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i was gonna post this but pulled my phone cable out on accident: |
| 07:59.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:59.53 | Guillotine | the thing is, as bosses scale, that 20% more damage from a druid crushing than a pally normal grows |
| 08:00.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially since druids hit the armor cap already |
| 08:00.09 | Guillotine | warr normal* |
| 08:00.12 | Guillotine | yup |
| 08:00.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | meaning they only take more damage from crushing |
| 08:00.16 | Guillotine | I'm almost at it |
| 08:00.19 | Guillotine | hit it with enough buffs |
| 08:00.35 | Guillotine | so crushing blows will hit us for more and more |
| 08:00.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Mr_Rabies2, ah but when unregistered you can't: edit semi-protected pages, upload images, move pages, create articles or customize the site design |
| 08:00.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it's pretty easy to hit, in which case an equally geared warrior takes much much much less damage from crushes |
| 08:01.01 | Guillotine | I think they need to make armor reduce the chance to get crushing blowed or something |
| 08:01.12 | Guillotine | because the way it is now, druids stop being viable pretty quickly |
| 08:01.18 | Guillotine | while pallys remain viable the whole way |
| 08:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | they said they're working on crushing blow mecanics for that specific reason |
| 08:01.30 | Guillotine | ah, they are? |
| 08:01.35 | Guillotine | wheres the link to that statement? |
| 08:01.36 | Nom- | Nah what needs to happen is people need to realise that tanks should be chosen to suit the encounter |
| 08:01.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | like i said, i agree with some of the stuff against us |
| 08:01.56 | Nom- | Warrios are less useful against fast hitting bosses than Paladins |
| 08:01.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | but all of it stacked together is too much |
| 08:02.00 | Guillotine | Nom- ya, but druids can't tank much at all BT and after |
| 08:02.15 | Guillotine | while pallys/warrs can |
| 08:02.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't have enough of the benefits of being a hybrid, but we have too many disadvantages |
| 08:02.41 | Nom- | But equally, Guillotine |
| 08:02.49 | Nom- | You'll find there are some encounters where a druid would be better than a warrior |
| 08:02.55 | Guillotine | not BT and after |
| 08:02.56 | Nom- | and some where a warrior would be better than a paladin |
| 08:03.22 | Guillotine | thats the thing. Druid-type encounters stop |
| 08:03.27 | Nom- | Anythign which is highly resistant to spells for instance |
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| 08:03.31 | Nom- | Paladin is useless |
| 08:03.39 | Guillotine | right. but warr is better choice than druid |
| 08:03.44 | Guillotine | in high instances |
| 08:03.48 | Guillotine | due to the crushing blows |
| 08:04.06 | Nom- | Well, I dunno |
| 08:04.16 | Nom- | A fast hitting, spell immune mob would be ideal for a bear |
| 08:04.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | that and taking much more damage from magic |
| 08:04.31 | Nom- | since warriors will get crushed for more than a druid, and they can't mitigate crush |
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| 08:04.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | warriors can |
| 08:04.47 | Nom- | not on a fast hitting mob Mr_Rabies2 |
| 08:05.12 | Nom- | anything with a swing speed faster than 3 seconds and your prot warriors can be crushed |
| 08:05.21 | Nom- | sorry 2.5 seconds |
| 08:05.23 | Nom- | It's a 5 sec cooldown |
| 08:05.35 | Nom- | So dual wield type bosses |
| 08:05.44 | Nom- | and those that just hit really fast |
| 08:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally there aren't any |
| 08:06.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know of many outside of 5 mans |
| 08:06.15 | Nom- | There are, and there will be more |
| 08:06.46 | Nom- | and noone excels more at AoE tanking than a pally :P |
| 08:07.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're awful at it |
| 08:07.05 | zenzelezz | there are bosses that at times can burn Shield Block before CD is up, like phase 2 prince if you fail to dodge/parry any of his attacks -- and at other times you just don't get the shield block off in time |
| 08:07.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | swipe is terrible for it unless we're in cat form gear |
| 08:07.51 | Nom- | precisely zenzelezz |
| 08:07.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | which kinda ruins the point of being in bear form |
| 08:07.51 | Nom- | zenzelezz: That's why i'm saying anything with faster than 2.5 speed can be difficult to impossible to mitigate crushing on a warrior |
| 08:07.54 | Nom- | Whereas a paladin, can mitigate that with ease |
| 08:08.00 | Guillotine | right |
| 08:08.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | you still mitigate a decent chunk of them |
| 08:08.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | just not near all of them |
| 08:08.13 | Guillotine | basically, in all encounters, EITHER a pally or a warr will be a better tank than a druid |
| 08:08.22 | Guillotine | BT and after that is |
| 08:08.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never had a pally tank for me |
| 08:08.30 | zenzelezz | I'm mildly amused one of our tanks died twice to Overcharge on the trash before Void Reaver yesterday... said he didn't have rage for Spell Reflect |
| 08:08.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | never |
| 08:08.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 08:08.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | since bc |
| 08:08.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | before bc i let them tank |
| 08:08.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | after bc i would too |
| 08:08.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but none want to |
| 08:08.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's weird |
| 08:09.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like they're so used to being beaten for not healing they don't want to do anything else |
| 08:09.08 | zenzelezz | our paladin healer in heroic SH the other day pretty much offtanked whatever the rest had trouble keeping at bay |
| 08:09.35 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:09.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i often ask pallies if they want to tank |
| 08:09.41 | Nom- | the first few trash pulls are nasty in there |
| 08:09.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and often asked warriors that aren't prot if they want me to |
| 08:10.00 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Pally tanking changed significantly in 2.0 and 2.1 |
| 08:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally i don't have to now |
| 08:10.13 | Nom- | Many may not have adjusted yet |
| 08:10.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | since 2.0 i've never had one want to tank |
| 08:10.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've always been happy to let them |
| 08:10.32 | Nom- | I actually want to |
| 08:10.33 | zenzelezz | we didn't even bother touching the adds at Bladefist, they didn't harm the paladin at all |
| 08:10.33 | JunkHead-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174836043&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 08:10.36 | Nom- | But my guild needs me to heal |
| 08:10.42 | Nom- | I'm the best geared healer in our guild |
| 08:10.43 | JunkHead-Work | violet eye rewards partially. |
| 08:10.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | "my guild needs me to x" is never a good reason to do x unless you really like X |
| 08:10.52 | Nom- | Solely because we only take one paladin per raid to Karazhan |
| 08:11.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | do what you want, they can find other pally healers, find one that will let you tank :p |
| 08:11.11 | Nom- | Yeah, i've been wanting to tank only recently though :) |
| 08:11.28 | Nom- | I've been content to whack-a-mole on the healing bars until recently |
| 08:11.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like tanking or dpsing pretty much equally |
| 08:11.41 | Nom- | Right around the time I discovered how awesome my healing set is :) |
| 08:11.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but never get asked to dps except in kara |
| 08:11.46 | Nom- | my prot set is i mean :) |
| 08:11.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | we use either me or a warrior to tank depending on who's on |
| 08:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, for tank #2 |
| 08:12.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | not necessarily offtank |
| 08:12.10 | Guillotine | interesting. so the voice chat GUI is (partly) in, but voice chat doesn't seem to be enabled yet |
| 08:12.17 | JunkHead-Work | right. |
| 08:12.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's either me and a war or 2 wars |
| 08:12.23 | zenzelezz | while I enjoy big numbers as much as anyone, I don't find myself wanting to spec DPS ever... I enjoy being prot |
| 08:12.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes he tanks, sometimes i do |
| 08:12.39 | krka | would be fun with encounters that forced more dynamic usage |
| 08:12.49 | krka | like... if you tank for 30 seconds, then you get a 200% boost to healing |
| 08:12.57 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:13.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes i dps in tank gear incase the warrior gets hit with a random unlucky crit or something similar |
| 08:13.04 | zenzelezz | healing done or received? |
| 08:13.06 | Nom- | You can't switch tanks mid-fight |
| 08:13.09 | krka | done |
| 08:13.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can, nom |
| 08:13.14 | Nom- | It's not plausible except for somethingl ike netherspite |
| 08:13.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | you just have to have someone on secondary threat |
| 08:13.25 | krka | Nom-: sure... that's why i want blizzard to change that |
| 08:13.25 | zenzelezz | "ok, tank has the healer buff, BoP him |
| 08:13.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not easy unless they aoe though, nom |
| 08:13.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | no rage cause i'm not getting hit :[ |
| 08:13.51 | Nom- | krka: They already have it implimented...it's called taunt, but it's only available on certain bosses |
| 08:14.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | even without taunt it's not that hard to rotate tanks |
| 08:14.16 | zenzelezz | not if your DPS is disciplined at least |
| 08:14.23 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:14.29 | krka | would be fun to have advanced class rotation cycles |
| 08:14.34 | Nom- | I can't beleieve someone used DPS and Disciplined in the same sentence |
| 08:14.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | you stay just a couple steps below him in threat |
| 08:14.38 | zenzelezz | I've lost count of how many times we've had to shout at the DPS to use their god damn threat reduction abilities on Void Reaver |
| 08:14.46 | krka | every class needing to do atleast 2 roles per encounter |
| 08:14.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and tell him to back off after condition x |
| 08:14.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | he backs off, you ramp it up |
| 08:15.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | bam, you have aggro |
| 08:15.19 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Which only works if you have someone in there at the start of the fight keeping up :) |
| 08:15.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 08:15.30 | zenzelezz | krka: would be interesting, but utterly hard to do without allowing gear switching in combat |
| 08:15.35 | Nom- | It's not really practical though |
| 08:15.40 | zenzelezz | prot warriors are pretty limited in what they can do |
| 08:15.41 | krka | zenzelezz: why? |
| 08:15.50 | krka | you could design the instance to not need as much stats |
| 08:15.51 | zenzelezz | you either tank or you... tank something else |
| 08:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're disabling the ability to switch gear once arena combat has begun |
| 08:16.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have even less of a reason to arena on my druid now :[ |
| 08:16.14 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:16.16 | krka | or they could allow switching gears for certain periods in combat |
| 08:16.23 | krka | like a 10 second gear switch phase :) |
| 08:16.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, drop combat for 5 seconds or so |
| 08:16.33 | zenzelezz | krka: that way I could see it working |
| 08:16.38 | zenzelezz | and would be fun |
| 08:16.39 | Nom- | 5 seconds isn't enough time for most poeple |
| 08:16.42 | Nom- | 10 even isn't |
| 08:16.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 08:16.53 | krka | 10 seconds is a long time |
| 08:17.00 | krka | and you'd have prepared the swaps |
| 08:17.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it takes me roughly two once i see i've dropped them |
| 08:17.11 | Nom- | The encounter would have to cater to the lowest common denominator |
| 08:17.22 | krka | just put all the gear you want to switch to near eachother in a bag |
| 08:17.23 | Nom- | and for the LCD, 10 seconds isn't enough time |
| 08:17.25 | krka | and right click them |
| 08:17.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially if they implement a wardrobe, closetgnome, outfitter, itemrack style addon into the game |
| 08:17.33 | krka | should be easy |
| 08:17.37 | Nom- | krka: The LCD can't even accomplish that |
| 08:17.51 | krka | is the LCD in high end instances? |
| 08:18.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | the lcd can die painfully |
| 08:18.13 | krka | blizzard dont design raids for LCD |
| 08:18.17 | Nom- | You could consider the LCD as somone who can barely manage to fill their role in a raid |
| 08:18.22 | Nom- | Every guild has a few of those |
| 08:18.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | they design raids for the middle of the road basically |
| 08:18.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you can't fill your role and the limitation is skill and not gear, you can learn or leave |
| 08:18.45 | krka | you're saying people can't be instructed to put all their swap-gear in the same bag, and right click on them when instructed? |
| 08:18.58 | Nom- | krka: Not in 10 seconds, no |
| 08:19.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember having to explain what CTRA was before the blizzard raid frames came out |
| 08:19.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | to a paladin |
| 08:19.16 | Nom- | 30 seconds or a minute, maybe |
| 08:19.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was the worst excuse for anything ever |
| 08:19.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | the guy was a dps paladin before dps paladins existed |
| 08:19.32 | krka | then they'll simply perform worse than people who have time to swap |
| 08:19.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was terrible at his job |
| 08:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they can't swap their gear in 10 seconds they need to practice it, get an addon, or just quit playing wow |
| 08:20.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless they've got terrible terrible lag |
| 08:20.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | in which case the addon should do fine for |
| 08:20.43 | zenzelezz | "Bloodrage should no longer initiate combat, though it will prevent rage decay for the duration" -- I wonder what the reasoning for this change is |
| 08:20.45 | krka | make the client keep track |
| 08:20.49 | krka | and give a 10 second window |
| 08:20.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably the rage bug zenz |
| 08:20.57 | Nom- | Well taking into consideration compbat bugs |
| 08:20.58 | krka | and make an audible sound / visible countdown |
| 08:21.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something along those lines |
| 08:21.01 | Nom- | 10 seconds would be pushing it |
| 08:21.12 | Nom- | I've been stuck in combat after a fight for more than 10 seconds sometimes |
| 08:21.17 | Nom- | That'd have to completely fix that first |
| 08:21.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you logout while under the effects of blood rage/bear enrage/furor, you're stuck in combat until you cast those again or leave bear form |
| 08:21.45 | krka | i imagine the boss would give everyone a buff that allowed gear switching |
| 08:21.47 | Nom- | The only plausible one I could see happening would be an encounter which requires tank(s) to switch between resistance gear |
| 08:21.55 | Nom- | And that could be interesting |
| 08:21.55 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies2: hm, never had that problem... thansk for the info |
| 08:22.00 | zenzelezz | thanks also |
| 08:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | yuor welcoem |
| 08:23.05 | Nom- | I mean it'd be pretty rough to expect half of your raid to carry 2-3 full sets of gear for an encounter like that |
| 08:23.19 | Nom- | along with all the elixirs, potions, food, and other items you generally carry to a raid |
| 08:23.23 | krka | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoW0.2/ |
| 08:23.28 | krka | oops |
| 08:23.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i carry 2 and a half gearsets everywhere :[ |
| 08:23.36 | krka | accidental right click |
| 08:23.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used to carry 3 |
| 08:23.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | and sometimes 4 on the rare chance i was tanking a resistance boss |
| 08:23.56 | Nom- | I have it rough enough as it is carrying two sets of Holy gear and Protection gear |
| 08:23.58 | JunkHead-Work | I carry Gorehowl. |
| 08:24.00 | krka | that's why you only require it for really high end raids |
| 08:24.00 | JunkHead-Work | ... |
| 08:24.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | rarely did i ever need to |
| 08:24.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | because warriors are much better suited for pretty much any magic fight |
| 08:24.52 | Nom- | I mean as it is now, if i have to bring resist gear, i need to leave a set of gear in the bank |
| 08:24.56 | zenzelezz | "Formula: Enchant Cloak - Dodge: This enchanting recipe is now available from the Lower City Quartermaster" -- woot, no more searching for days for an enchanter |
| 08:25.06 | Nom- | I usually go to raids with 2-6 free bag slots, if that |
| 08:25.22 | JunkHead-Work | I usually have about... |
| 08:25.28 | JunkHead-Work | 60 free slots.:P |
| 08:25.36 | Nom- | Yeah, you're a mage |
| 08:25.40 | JunkHead-Work | Nope. |
| 08:25.41 | Nom- | Try rolling a hybrid :P |
| 08:25.43 | JunkHead-Work | On my Paladin. |
| 08:25.46 | krka | i should just shut up... i never played an instance with a party greater than 5 people |
| 08:25.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually have about 24 free |
| 08:25.57 | Nom- | JunkHead-Work: You're lucky then lol |
| 08:26.00 | JunkHead-Work | My mage actually corries more than my Paladin. |
| 08:26.08 | JunkHead-Work | Let's see... |
| 08:26.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | and thats if i vendor all my greys and move all my mats to my bank |
| 08:26.09 | Nom- | I'm carrying Holy DPS gear, Holy Healing gear, Tanking gear |
| 08:26.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's pure, required on a daily basis, gear |
| 08:26.17 | krka | Holy Crap gear? |
| 08:26.19 | JunkHead-Work | I carry 300 symbols of kings, 5 of divinity. |
| 08:26.19 | Nom- | Plus potions, elixirs, food buffs |
| 08:26.24 | Nom- | god knows what else |
| 08:26.30 | JunkHead-Work | 10 health pots. |
| 08:26.33 | JunkHead-Work | 15 mana pots. |
| 08:26.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually carry 25 wilds and 25 seeds |
| 08:26.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 08:26.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 |
| 08:26.41 | JunkHead-Work | 10 healing power elixirs |
| 08:26.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | of both |
| 08:26.48 | JunkHead-Work | 10 draenic wisdom elixirs |
| 08:26.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i rarely have to cast gift or seed in raids |
| 08:26.52 | Nom- | You obviously only ever fill one role then, JunkHead-Work :) |
| 08:27.00 | JunkHead-Work | Nom- - You're right. |
| 08:27.08 | JunkHead-Work | I have no reason to do anythign else. |
| 08:27.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if i have to cast it more than 20 times in a 5man |
| 08:27.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i should consider leaving the group |
| 08:27.19 | Nom- | Yeah, i'm a holy/ret hybrid, and i kill tank for moroes |
| 08:27.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tank whatever he wants me to |
| 08:27.37 | JunkHead-Work | Oh and I carry my Gorehowl in case mobs come while we are waiting to begin the raid. |
| 08:27.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i build secondary aggro on moroes |
| 08:27.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | hes a dorf so he's pretty good at moroes |
| 08:27.59 | Nom- | so for a typical run in Kara, i need to take all 3 gearsets |
| 08:28.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | in OS situations he can stoneform to remove blind and garrote |
| 08:28.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i secondary tank moroes and main tank at least one add |
| 08:28.27 | JunkHead-Work | I wish the Garote bug would get fixed.:( |
| 08:28.33 | JunkHead-Work | We got hit by it again today. |
| 08:28.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 08:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 08:28.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had to spam healing touch and had 3 healers on me |
| 08:28.48 | Nom- | we did too this week |
| 08:28.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | for 5 minutes |
| 08:28.52 | Nom- | but meh, not that hard |
| 08:28.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | he garroted me right at the end |
| 08:28.59 | Nom- | just sit down and eat when you're out of combat |
| 08:29.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have no food |
| 08:29.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 08:29.08 | JunkHead-Work | We have killed him, don't know how many times. |
| 08:29.11 | Nom- | Then you're a newb :) |
| 08:29.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't bring it anywhere |
| 08:29.12 | Guillotine | btw guys, the breaking of secure protection is gone with this patch |
| 08:29.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | why should i? |
| 08:29.18 | JunkHead-Work | I've only seen Garrote go away properly once. |
| 08:29.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can heal :P |
| 08:29.26 | Nom- | err food buff |
| 08:29.27 | Nom- | at the very least |
| 08:29.35 | JunkHead-Work | I don't carry buff food. |
| 08:29.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i rarely buff beyond castable ones |
| 08:29.40 | Nom- | Newbs :) |
| 08:29.43 | JunkHead-Work | But only because I'm cheap/lazy |
| 08:29.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you won it with consumables, you won it without them |
| 08:30.02 | Nom- | actually, that's not true... |
| 08:30.10 | Nom- | it is to some degree now |
| 08:30.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | consumables aren't needed for anything |
| 08:30.20 | Nom- | but before the consumables change, you NEEDED them to win some fights |
| 08:30.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | well yeah |
| 08:30.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | they built the raids around people having them |
| 08:30.32 | Nom- | And seriously |
| 08:30.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | now they don't have to |
| 08:30.40 | Nom- | If you don't use them now, you're just gimping yourself |
| 08:30.40 | Nom- | :) |
| 08:30.46 | JunkHead-Work | I was told by a friend, that Magtheridon REQUIRES buff food and pots and flasks... |
| 08:30.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have no reason to |
| 08:30.51 | JunkHead-Work | But blah. |
| 08:30.53 | Nom- | it's not like they're expensive any more |
| 08:30.57 | JunkHead-Work | I got my two elixirs. |
| 08:30.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i sit right on top of aggro now |
| 08:31.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have inventory space nom |
| 08:31.21 | Nom- | lol it's one slot |
| 08:31.25 | Nom- | for one stack of food |
| 08:32.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | to carry around 2 stacks of elixirs, 1 stack of flasks, and 1-2 stacks of food for every role |
| 08:32.03 | Nom- | 20 stamina can be the difference between life and death sometimes |
| 08:32.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 stam is 200 hp |
| 08:32.17 | Nom- | Yes... |
| 08:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't tell you the amount of times i've been hit for under 200 while raiding |
| 08:32.24 | Nom- | As I said, it can be the difference between life and death |
| 08:32.36 | Nom- | err its not just that |
| 08:32.51 | Nom- | What if you were hit for 195 hitpoints more than the health you had left |
| 08:32.56 | JunkHead-Work | We were doing Gruul one day. |
| 08:32.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | then you got bad luck |
| 08:33.00 | Nom- | And there was 14k worth of heals a fraction of a second away... |
| 08:33.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'll get it next time |
| 08:33.06 | JunkHead-Work | And a rogue got unlucky with the shatter. |
| 08:33.14 | JunkHead-Work | I got a heal on him ASAP. |
| 08:33.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | what if with full consumables you get hit for 200 more? |
| 08:33.21 | JunkHead-Work | Before I heale dhim.. he was at 34hp.:P |
| 08:33.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | or even 1 more |
| 08:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a waste of a lot of consumables |
| 08:33.37 | Nom- | Then at least you gave it your best shot |
| 08:33.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | except the flask in most situations |
| 08:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 08:33.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i give my best shot in other ways than relying on 200 hp to save the day |
| 08:34.13 | Nom- | Not using all possible consumables is like saying... I'M GOING TO GIVE IT 95% OF MY BEST! |
| 08:34.19 | JunkHead-Work | I like my Elixirs, they help a lot. But I don't like relying on them |
| 08:34.30 | JunkHead-Work | I'm to the point now that I only use them on a few boses. |
| 08:34.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never flasked for a fight |
| 08:34.49 | Nom- | Same, JunkHead-Work ... i didn't take elixirs in Karazhan until Shade this week |
| 08:34.50 | JunkHead-Work | In Kara I use them on Curator, Prince, Nightbane, Illhoof, and Netherspite. |
| 08:34.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only flask i've ever used has been the new ones that are zone specific |
| 08:34.58 | JunkHead-Work | Blah Screw Shade. |
| 08:35.06 | JunkHead-Work | And I use them in Gruul's. |
| 08:35.17 | Nom- | And I only took them then because were short on healers |
| 08:35.21 | JunkHead-Work | Mainly I only use them in fights I am not 100% confident in yet. |
| 08:35.22 | Nom- | We only had 2 heal-spec healers |
| 08:35.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never have used any consumables other than "eh, why not" reasons |
| 08:35.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | because they're such a minor buff it's generally not worth the money |
| 08:35.48 | JunkHead-Work | The only bosses in Kara I hate are Nightbane and Illhoof. |
| 08:35.54 | JunkHead-Work | And I reeeeally hate Illhoof. |
| 08:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally it's not me having consumables that fucks us, it's someone moving in flame wreath, or idiot rogue #34 watching the pretty numbers and the boss turning around and cleaving everyone |
| 08:36.26 | zenzelezz | I don't really have a problem with any of those bosses; I hate Prince for the complete randomness of the infernals |
| 08:36.31 | JunkHead-Work | Hahaha we had a rogue break wreath today.:P |
| 08:36.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | rarely have i ever been below 200 hp |
| 08:36.53 | JunkHead-Work | zenzelezz - yeah but an infernal in a bad spot is still fine. just makes the fight longer. |
| 08:36.58 | zenzelezz | other than that my major gripe in Kara is that the camera won't zoom past the "wall" on the Prince/Nightbane fights |
| 08:37.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | only once recently and that was while tanking the kara trash that hit you in the head with a bottle |
| 08:37.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was at 85 hp |
| 08:37.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | when it died |
| 08:37.18 | JunkHead-Work | My major gripe with Prince is he won't drop my damn mace.:( |
| 08:37.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | one more hit and i'd have died regardless of flasks though :P |
| 08:38.08 | zenzelezz | I don't flask for Karazhan, but I use it on Gruul/Reaver/SSC, because those 500 hp just might be the difference between dying or not... on Reaver it has been |
| 08:38.17 | JunkHead-Work | While I'm thinking about it... |
| 08:38.25 | JunkHead-Work | Does anyone have any advice for Magtheridon? |
| 08:38.25 | zenzelezz | the defense part is stupid though, I get 3 points from it |
| 08:38.34 | JunkHead-Work | Today will be our first attempt. |
| 08:38.42 | Nom- | What's wrong with Illhoof ? |
| 08:38.44 | Nom- | He's so easy |
| 08:38.51 | JunkHead-Work | We have horrible luck on him. |
| 08:38.56 | JunkHead-Work | You have no idea. |
| 08:39.07 | Nom- | Since the sacrifice change, he's a pushover |
| 08:39.15 | JunkHead-Work | Oh we know the fight. |
| 08:39.19 | JunkHead-Work | We know it inside and out. |
| 08:39.26 | JunkHead-Work | We just have horrible luck with him. |
| 08:39.41 | JunkHead-Work | One day, we got to him with 2 pallies and 2 locks. |
| 08:39.42 | Nom- | There's no luck involved |
| 08:39.45 | JunkHead-Work | wiped 3 times and gave up. |
| 08:39.58 | JunkHead-Work | Went in next day with 1 less lock and one shotted it. |
| 08:40.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | we wipe more to big bad wolf than anything else in kara for some reason |
| 08:40.03 | Nom- | The only luck based fight is Prince..and even that you can kill with bad luck if you have the right amount of healing |
| 08:40.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | so far at least |
| 08:40.14 | JunkHead-Work | Yup. |
| 08:40.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | we can one or two shot shade pretty reliably depending on luck with poly/drink/elementals |
| 08:40.37 | zenzelezz | how can you wipe to wolf? O_O |
| 08:40.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | we do all the time |
| 08:40.51 | Nom- | They don't have the run down :) |
| 08:40.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | he kills off everyone but the tank |
| 08:41.00 | zenzelezz | does your group not know how to run? |
| 08:41.02 | JunkHead-Work | [03:44:01] <zenzelezz> how can you wipe to wolf? O_O <-- did it twice today.:( |
| 08:41.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | we do what we can |
| 08:41.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | we used to oneshot him easy |
| 08:41.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but now he seems to ignore the trees and house altogether |
| 08:41.25 | Nom- | I believe we've one-shotted every opera we've had for the last 4 weeks |
| 08:41.26 | zenzelezz | the only people that die in our wolf encounter is melee |
| 08:41.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | goes right through them |
| 08:41.32 | Nom- | They're such a pushover once you know what to do |
| 08:41.35 | JunkHead-Work | We one shotted every bos today except BBW and shade. |
| 08:41.40 | JunkHead-Work | Shade wipe was the rogues fault. |
| 08:41.50 | Nom- | It's always the rogue's fault :P |
| 08:41.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | we almost lost chess once |
| 08:41.59 | Nom- | Well, no, it's always the cow's fault |
| 08:41.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was funny |
| 08:42.03 | JunkHead-Work | Moving during Wreath. |
| 08:42.04 | zenzelezz | we always blame our feral |
| 08:42.11 | JunkHead-Work | Yes, there's no way it's not his fault.:P |
| 08:42.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | you blame me and you'd get the claws |
| 08:42.20 | zenzelezz | not because he's feral though, he just does a lot of weird stuff |
| 08:42.21 | Nom- | Whenever the raid wipes in our guild, it's always the Tauren's fault |
| 08:42.22 | Nom- | :P |
| 08:42.35 | Nom- | Even /arm agrees |
| 08:42.39 | Nom- | Every time we /arm blame |
| 08:42.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't place fault even jokingly |
| 08:42.41 | Nom- | A Tauren wins |
| 08:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally |
| 08:43.00 | JunkHead-Work | Yeah on BBW today, I got hood'ed 3 times, twice I never got touched, 3rd time, he one shotted me and I got laughed at.:P |
| 08:43.00 | zenzelezz | how dull your raids must be ;) |
| 08:43.01 | Nom- | lol we do it all the time |
| 08:43.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless it was something so unbelievable stupid even the guy that did it wonders what's up |
| 08:43.10 | Nom- | But we're all pretty close, so it's all in good fun |
| 08:43.14 | JunkHead-Work | But noone laughed at the rogue breaking wreath.:P |
| 08:43.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | like accidentally autorunning into curator or something |
| 08:43.24 | zenzelezz | I've taken to Intervening the red riding hood |
| 08:43.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i generally go bear form and hope for the best |
| 08:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | but he outruns me |
| 08:43.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | every fucking time |
| 08:43.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno how |
| 08:43.50 | JunkHead-Work | BBW was rough on us today though. |
| 08:43.53 | Nom- | I told ya earlier |
| 08:43.56 | Nom- | don't use the mouse to turn |
| 08:43.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've listened to every guide on how to run |
| 08:43.57 | Nom- | It's bugged |
| 08:44.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | except that |
| 08:44.08 | zenzelezz | Commanding Shout and Victory Rush are fair enough abilities, but I'm in love with Spell Reflect and Intervene |
| 08:44.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't tried that yet |
| 08:44.11 | JunkHead-Work | As soon as I saw the words popup saying who was Hood'ed.. They were dead before my flash of light went off. |
| 08:44.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll try it tomorrow |
| 08:44.24 | Nom- | Yeah, seriously... it's bugged for everyone with and kind of normal ping |
| 08:44.25 | JunkHead-Work | I don't know if people just weren't paying attention or what. |
| 08:44.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally our hoods get two shotted |
| 08:44.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | once i got hooded 3 times in a row |
| 08:44.37 | Nom- | You'd have to be living across the road from the data centre in order to be able to do what you want |
| 08:44.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | each time got hit 2-3 times and survived |
| 08:44.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | he seems to always catch up to me |
| 08:44.51 | zenzelezz | Nom-: our casters survive just fine |
| 08:44.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet mages would rock that |
| 08:45.02 | Nom- | zenzelezz: They might have a low enough ping |
| 08:45.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | blinking everywhere\ |
| 08:45.09 | zenzelezz | no, they have the same as the melee |
| 08:45.15 | Nom- | ah blink too |
| 08:45.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | what do they do, zenz? |
| 08:45.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | a and D? |
| 08:45.23 | zenzelezz | the only reason melee dies is because they get hit immediately |
| 08:45.24 | Nom- | mages can blink |
| 08:45.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't see how people don't get caught up to |
| 08:45.51 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Yeah, use the keyboard to turn...it's just a lag thing |
| 08:45.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless our server is bugged or something and hes going through the trees and he's not supposed to go right through them |
| 08:46.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | because our server is the only one with peddlefoot still there as far as i know |
| 08:46.11 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: if you mean the abilities, Commanding Shout is +1080 hp to the party, and Intervene is a Charge/Intercept to a person + taking the first hit that person would |
| 08:46.16 | Nom- | They need to nerf his speed down to like 90% or 80% of normal to allow the "real" ping people to escape |
| 08:46.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's been there since valentines day |
| 08:46.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | No, i mean what do they do in the wolf fight |
| 08:46.57 | zenzelezz | then I don't understand the "a" and "D" part o_O We just all run |
| 08:46.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i start running as soon as i hear RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL |
| 08:47.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and he always, without fail, catches up to me |
| 08:47.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | cuts me off at corners, etc |
| 08:47.16 | zenzelezz | only thing you have to watch out for is to not start running if he's on the opposite side of the room, then you'll just run into him |
| 08:47.18 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Srosh_ (n=Srosh@c209052.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:47.20 | Nom- | Yeah, what your ingame ping Mr_Rabies2 ? |
| 08:47.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~100 |
| 08:47.34 | Nom- | Yup, too high :) |
| 08:47.44 | Nom- | You need to have ~50 or less to get away with it |
| 08:47.48 | Nom- | It's purely a lag thing |
| 08:47.49 | zenzelezz | I outrun him fine with 200-225 |
| 08:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the server's in new england |
| 08:48.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | for EST |
| 08:48.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the south pings badly to it |
| 08:48.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 08:48.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | "badly" |
| 08:48.31 | Nom- | I can outrun him fine with 500 ping only because i use the keyboard to turn |
| 08:48.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | 100 versus 50 to the yankees :P |
| 08:48.50 | Nom- | I've tried strafe turning with the mouse and whatnot |
| 08:48.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i even use the tricks i used for the sky races |
| 08:49.02 | Nom- | All that works reliably is W/S/A/D for running away |
| 08:49.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | using strafing to continuously update my server location |
| 08:49.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | none of it seems to help |
| 08:49.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | he always, without fail, catches up to me |
| 08:49.27 | Nom- | yeah that's what i mean Mr_Rabies2 |
| 08:49.27 | zenzelezz | I don't "bend" the corners, I run straight in and make a near 90 degree turn |
| 08:49.32 | Nom- | The server update thing is what seems to kill you |
| 08:49.33 | zenzelezz | that way he doesn't start turning sooner either |
| 08:49.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tried that zenz |
| 08:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't do that every time, nom |
| 08:49.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually i run in straight lines |
| 08:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | but tried to change it up and try the other way to see if that was it |
| 08:50.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing |
| 08:50.09 | zenzelezz | well, don't know what to say then. What I've said works for us, that's all I can say for sure, but I trust you know what you're talking about also :) |
| 08:50.15 | Nom- | i try to make as close to 45 degree turns as possible... seems to work for me |
| 08:50.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | he always cuts all of us off |
| 08:50.34 | zenzelezz | 45 degree turns? |
| 08:50.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | we never have a hood not get hit unless they dodge |
| 08:50.41 | zenzelezz | as in two per corner? |
| 08:50.47 | Nom- | yup |
| 08:50.56 | Nom- | usually only run straight for a fraction of a second though |
| 08:51.08 | Nom- | getting the +run speed encahnt helps too, although i've not tried that |
| 08:51.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have that |
| 08:51.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 08:51.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | still catches up |
| 08:51.36 | Nom- | yah, he doesn't catch me even without the enchant |
| 08:51.39 | zenzelezz | if you don't already, then try making your healers focus on hitting you in the corners |
| 08:51.40 | Nom- | so *shrug* i dunno |
| 08:51.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have healers focus on the hood |
| 08:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just get hit too much |
| 08:52.02 | Nom- | shield/pom |
| 08:52.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like he moves 150% or so |
| 08:52.05 | Nom- | renews |
| 08:52.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 08:52.15 | Nom- | then just hope for the best :) |
| 08:52.19 | Nom- | that's really all you can do i suppose |
| 08:52.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | we do :[ |
| 08:52.30 | zenzelezz | I'll have to try to look at this tonight if we get wolf again |
| 08:52.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually we just hope for dps to burn him down fast enough |
| 08:52.35 | Nom- | We usually do lose a few people, but yeah |
| 08:52.55 | Nom- | I make it through almost every time, and we get lucky with most of our healers making it too |
| 08:53.10 | Nom- | all you need is 1 healer and 1 tank and the rest is dps |
| 08:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have about a 90% death rate on him |
| 08:53.19 | Nom- | so as long as you've got that, you can lose anyone else from the rade |
| 08:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and we're working on prince |
| 08:53.25 | Nom- | raid |
| 08:53.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't change the group makeup |
| 08:53.43 | Nom- | ah you know about the positioning trick btw ? |
| 08:53.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | we go in with what we finish with unless someone leaves |
| 08:54.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | generally the same 12-15 people with a few people missing |
| 08:54.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | each run |
| 08:54.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're the guild's A team |
| 08:54.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | b team is still wiping on attumen |
| 08:54.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | poor guys |
| 08:54.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're not really a guild group, though |
| 08:55.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | we take good out of guildies to guildies :p |
| 08:55.01 | zenzelezz | wiping on Attumen... ouch |
| 08:55.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's cake |
| 08:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i solo'd him on a level 1 warlock |
| 08:55.27 | zenzelezz | we wiped on him only one time, our first try ever... because we took the trash casually and they respawned on us =D |
| 08:55.42 | Nom- | yeah but warlocks cause nuclear winters when they crit |
| 08:55.42 | Nom- | :P |
| 08:55.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | we wiped on curator because our awesome moonkin got hit in the face with a brick or something last night |
| 08:56.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | he autoran right into curator |
| 08:56.07 | Nom- | haha |
| 08:56.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've autorun into bosses when my mouse batteries die |
| 08:56.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not fun explaining that |
| 08:56.21 | Nom- | LOL |
| 08:56.28 | Nom- | that's why you tap 'w' on your keyboard to stop |
| 08:56.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | watching yourself inch your way into aggro radius and you are desperately trying to stop |
| 08:56.38 | Nom- | I never disengage auto-run using the mouse |
| 08:56.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do |
| 08:56.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | my mouse is my entire movement thing most times |
| 08:56.53 | zenzelezz | on our first night of Maulgar tries I made one premature pull (as the tank) because I misheard the voice chat |
| 08:56.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i rarely ever use WSAD |
| 08:56.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless i'm shapeshifting |
| 08:57.02 | Nom- | I always use it :) |
| 08:57.04 | Nom- | <-- fps gamer |
| 08:57.05 | zenzelezz | "so we'll try and nuke the OH GOD WE HAVE A PULL" |
| 08:57.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | then i swap to wsad because shifting uses numpad 1-4 |
| 08:57.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm an fps gamer too |
| 08:57.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i use mouse turning in fps's :P |
| 08:57.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | autorun just saves me w and s |
| 08:57.41 | Nom- | I use mouse-look |
| 08:57.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use q and e to strafe though |
| 08:57.57 | Nom- | But WASD was forward/back/strafe-left/strafe-right |
| 08:58.09 | Nom- | I used to use EDSF |
| 08:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | tribes 2? |
| 08:58.16 | Nom- | But changed when I started playing MMO |
| 08:58.19 | Nom- | Quake 3 |
| 08:58.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | quake 3 had esdf? |
| 08:58.27 | Nom- | Nah |
| 08:58.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was wondering wtf that was the default in tribes 2 |
| 08:58.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 08:58.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're just crazy |
| 08:58.35 | Nom- | But i had all weapons on the surrounding keys |
| 08:58.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why |
| 08:58.37 | Nom- | So i rebound it |
| 08:58.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | ESDF was the default in tribes 2 |
| 08:58.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never ever understood why |
| 08:59.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was like some coder's keyboard got messed with and he didn't realize it |
| 08:59.19 | Nom- | q = rocket, w = grenade, r=shotgun, g=railgul, mouseup=lighting, mousedown=plama, c=machinegun |
| 08:59.22 | Nom- | etcetc |
| 08:59.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | who the hell uses the machinegun |
| 08:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather use the buzzsawhandmabobber |
| 08:59.35 | Nom- | <--- |
| 08:59.39 | Nom- | Dude |
| 08:59.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never use that damn thing |
| 08:59.45 | Nom- | Railgun + MachineGun :) |
| 08:59.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | buzzsawhandmabobber is so much more awesome |
| 09:00.11 | Nom- | You hit some nub that had 120 hitpoints with the rail |
| 09:00.19 | Nom- | He survives and you machine down |
| 09:00.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | railgun was nice |
| 09:00.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | was there any location based damage in q3a |
| 09:00.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never noticed any more damage hitting them in the face than the feet |
| 09:03.43 | Guillotine | is there any reason this code won't work? http://guillotine.pastey.net/70731 |
| 09:03.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | THIS IS A BEAR HELLO |
| 09:03.53 | Guillotine | I'm really tired and probably missed something stupid |
| 09:03.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | I AM A BEAR... I HAVE BEAR POWERS |
| 09:04.00 | zenzelezz | y helo thar bear |
| 09:04.01 | Guillotine | either that or you can't do ipairs for getfenv() |
| 09:04.19 | Mike-N-Go | What does, "The following old-world factions have had their acquisition rate significantly increased.." in context mean? |
| 09:04.34 | Guillotine | I think it means you get more rep from doing stuff for them |
| 09:04.51 | zenzelezz | maybe I can finish CC then |
| 09:04.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | zenz: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/335755 |
| 09:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | you may wanna turn the speakers down |
| 09:05.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's a bit disturbing |
| 09:05.10 | zenzelezz | don't have sound on the IRC box |
| 09:05.15 | Mike-N-Go | Faster rep, then, I guess. |
| 09:05.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not a screamer, it's just really loud |
| 09:07.48 | Guillotine | hehe. putting _G in the SavedVariables line ftw |
| 09:09.11 | Guillotine | interesting. looks like their adding voice macros this patch as well |
| 09:09.15 | Guillotine | makes sence I suppose |
| 09:09.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Voice macros? |
| 09:10.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | press x and tell the raid "ATTENTION: THE ROGUE SUCKS AT LIFE" |
| 09:10.25 | Guillotine | hmm, maybe not |
| 09:10.33 | Guillotine | but it now has the text for macros |
| 09:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 09:10.53 | Guillotine | ["VOICEMACRO_20_Ni_3_FEMALE"] = "I think that guys just use the Emerald Dream as an excuse to avoid calling me back.", |
| 09:10.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | explain please :/ |
| 09:11.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 09:11.11 | Guillotine | has the text always been there? |
| 09:11.15 | Guillotine | thought it was just the sound |
| 09:11.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunno |
| 09:11.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | does it have the removed ones? |
| 09:11.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh I see |
| 09:11.33 | Guillotine | hmm. such as? |
| 09:11.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | like the draenei sexodar one |
| 09:11.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Rather than saying "Blah jokes"? |
| 09:11.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the gnome vibrate setting |
| 09:11.50 | Guillotine | nope |
| 09:11.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | on draenei females |
| 09:11.53 | Guillotine | not there |
| 09:11.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | those were great |
| 09:12.13 | Guillotine | my goal is to make a script to compare _G in test realm to _G on live and find all the new functions :/ |
| 09:12.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | now the only ones that cross into that territory are the trash outside maiden |
| 09:12.21 | Guillotine | see if the voice functions exist yet |
| 09:12.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | "he really asked if the imp could join in. not half bad, actually..." |
| 09:12.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | "five seconds. really." |
| 09:12.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | or something along those lones |
| 09:12.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | lines* |
| 09:13.12 | Guillotine | is there anything like for line in file in lua like there is in python? |
| 09:13.38 | Guillotine | ah, suppose I can just seperate it with every \n |
| 09:14.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | /console HeyKid("Im a computah, stop all the downloadin"),Help Computah |
| 09:14.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know if that's even close to proper syntax in everything |
| 09:14.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm bored and tired |
| 09:14.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the combination is never good |
| 09:15.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, in anything* |
| 09:16.20 | Guillotine | grrr. why can't I access _G as a normal table in WoW -_- |
| 09:16.29 | Kirkburn|afk | What's the TOC? |
| 09:16.35 | Guillotine | no idea |
| 09:16.41 | krka | Guillotine: you can if you do _G = getfenv(0) |
| 09:16.44 | krka | i think |
| 09:16.58 | Guillotine | ya, but you can't perform pairs or ipairs on _G |
| 09:17.11 | krka | ah... it's a proxy table? |
| 09:17.24 | Guillotine | apparently |
| 09:17.28 | krka | you could try to find its metatable |
| 09:17.31 | krka | and its __index table |
| 09:18.09 | Guillotine | hmm, that may work |
| 09:18.25 | Guillotine | whoops, just crashed WoW |
| 09:18.34 | Guillotine | forgot to remove the _G from saved variables |
| 09:18.58 | Guillotine | so it tried to set the global environment to an incomplete table>< |
| 09:21.04 | JunkHead-Work | http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6665/hoff11wt5.jpg |
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| 09:21.17 | Guillotine | and I can't even export all of_G through saved variables since it runs out of room :/ |
| 09:23.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit why wont my druid copy to the ptr |
| 09:23.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
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| 09:29.29 | Nom- | LOL |
| 09:29.39 | Nom- | I just got enough Pizza to feed me for the weekend :) |
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| 09:30.02 | theSmiler | hey |
| 09:30.22 | zenzelezz | hello |
| 09:30.48 | theSmiler | how do i reset the UI? |
| 09:31.27 | zenzelezz | completely to the default? |
| 09:31.38 | theSmiler | no, just reload my addons |
| 09:31.46 | zenzelezz | /script ReloadUI() |
| 09:31.50 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.55 | AnduinLothar | console* |
| 09:31.59 | theSmiler | console doesn't seem to work |
| 09:32.04 | zenzelezz | try mine |
| 09:32.13 | Nom- | i've got like a dominos pizza box |
| 09:32.18 | Nom- | stacked 3 layers high |
| 09:32.22 | Nom- | full from edge to edge |
| 09:32.23 | theSmiler | yeah, that one works, thanks |
| 09:32.53 | Nom- | not going hungry this weekend, that's for sure |
| 09:33.14 | AnduinLothar | stupid insomnia.. how am i sposed to sleep when i .... can't sleep!? |
| 09:33.16 | theSmiler | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.20 | krka | oooh... science vessel in sc was made by harry shearer? |
| 09:33.22 | krka | i didnt know that |
| 09:33.28 | krka | just thought it sounded a lot like mr burns |
| 09:33.46 | krka | theSmiler: it's not valid lua syntax |
| 09:33.50 | krka | read the manual on for loops |
| 09:34.03 | krka | i think you may mean: for i = 1, 4 do |
| 09:34.04 | theSmiler | hmm, k |
| 09:34.26 | theSmiler | ugh, i've learned too many languages |
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| 09:47.05 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 09:47.05 | sag_ich_nicht | # Pets are now affected by Paladin greater blessings. |
| 09:47.10 | sag_ich_nicht | well fuck. |
| 09:47.14 | sag_ich_nicht | that's awesome |
| 09:47.22 | zenzelezz | indeed |
| 09:47.53 | Guillotine | ah, figured it out. well, full list of all UI changes taken directly from _G coming tommorrow :) |
| 09:47.56 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 09:48.01 | sag_ich_nicht | blessing duration bloody doubled. |
| 09:48.10 | zenzelezz | seriously? |
| 09:48.10 | sag_ich_nicht | HELL, IT'S ABOUT TIME. |
| 09:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 09:48.13 | sag_ich_nicht | seriously. |
| 09:48.19 | sag_ich_nicht | except for BoF and BoS, obviousl |
| 09:48.20 | sag_ich_nicht | y |
| 09:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | GOD DAMN IT |
| 09:48.41 | zenzelezz | which BoS? Salvation, Sanctuary? |
| 09:48.46 | sag_ich_nicht | salvation :P |
| 09:48.46 | Thelyna | sacrifice |
| 09:48.51 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 09:48.52 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 09:48.53 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 09:48.54 | Thelyna | which got a cd of one minute instead |
| 09:48.57 | sag_ich_nicht | typo'd |
| 09:49.01 | sag_ich_nicht | -BoS +BoP |
| 09:49.04 | zenzelezz | sag, would you please stop using so many lines for so few words |
| 09:49.09 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry :) |
| 09:49.12 | Guillotine | why |
| 09:49.13 | Guillotine | would |
| 09:49.13 | zenzelezz | ah, BoP makes more sense |
| 09:49.14 | Guillotine | he |
| 09:49.14 | Guillotine | do |
| 09:49.16 | Guillotine | that? |
| 09:49.23 | zenzelezz | wow, you guys are so creative sometimes |
| 09:49.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine now you showed your face and i can annoy you |
| 09:49.34 | Guillotine | uh oh |
| 09:49.38 | zenzelezz | the answer would be because we tell every new person in the channel to do the same |
| 09:49.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine i figured out why some whispers are still not updating correctly |
| 09:49.48 | Guillotine | and why is that? |
| 09:49.58 | sag_ich_nicht | in telltrack i mean, if the person has a DND or AFK message up it will now show the incoming whispers |
| 09:50.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not sure why but at least now it's reproducable |
| 09:50.11 | Guillotine | now or not? |
| 09:50.18 | Guillotine | and I think I know why |
| 09:50.18 | sag_ich_nicht | and it's also happening with GMs, but that's kind of hard to debug |
| 09:50.24 | Guillotine | no, I can fix that |
| 09:50.33 | Guillotine | its same reason DND debugs |
| 09:50.38 | Guillotine | I'll just add in those tags |
| 09:51.16 | Guillotine | but... tommorrow :P |
| 09:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | uhu |
| 09:51.20 | Guillotine | well, today |
| 09:51.23 | Guillotine | but in the morning |
| 09:51.29 | Guillotine | gn all! |
| 09:51.35 | sag_ich_nicht | good night Guillotine |
| 09:52.14 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 09:52.14 | sag_ich_nicht | • Cyclone: Paladin Auras, Trueshot Aura, and Aspect of the Pack will now be automatically reactivated when Cyclone wears off of a victim who had one of the abilities active. |
| 09:52.18 | sag_ich_nicht | about damn time |
| 09:52.35 | Guillotine | also sag, stop stalking me :( First #cosmostesters, now here :P |
| 09:52.42 | Guillotine | <3 |
| 09:52.49 | theSmiler | where can i get a list of all the default WoW frames? |
| 09:53.07 | zenzelezz | FrameXML probably |
| 09:53.24 | zenzelezz | though you'd have to dig them out yourself |
| 09:53.54 | theSmiler | thanks |
| 09:54.39 | sag_ich_nicht | • Hammer of Wrath cast time reduced to .5 seconds, global cooldown reduced to .5 seconds. |
| 09:54.54 | sag_ich_nicht | w00t |
| 09:55.32 | sag_ich_nicht | where is my ret fix tho? -.- |
| 09:55.50 | zenzelezz | what's the problem? |
| 09:56.18 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz i am reading the patchnotes, general paladin improvements(blessing duration friggin doubled jesus) but no ret fix :( |
| 09:56.27 | sag_ich_nicht | • Lightwell: The heals from this ability are now increased by the bonus healing effects on the Priest. |
| 09:56.35 | sag_ich_nicht | LOLWELL MAY OR MAY NOT BE USEFUL NOW |
| 09:56.40 | zenzelezz | I know you're reading them; I'm asking what the problem(s) with Ret is :) I'm no paladin |
| 09:56.48 | sag_ich_nicht | oh right |
| 09:57.09 | sag_ich_nicht | too much aggro, too little visible usefulness, bad damage scaling at lower equip levels |
| 09:57.29 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially atm you can do insane amounts of damage with really high end gear, but before that your damage is probably lower than that of the tank |
| 09:57.30 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 09:58.39 | zenzelezz | interesting |
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| 09:59.32 | sag_ich_nicht | but the real main problem is aggro and the visibility of the usfulness |
| 10:00.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i can buff myself with BoS with my more or less average gear and still pull aggro off a REALLY good tank in high end gear >.> |
| 10:00.31 | Thelyna | probably because he's not getting enough rage to spam all abilities |
| 10:00.46 | Thelyna | trust me, it takes windfury to pull aggro off a really good tank going all out |
| 10:00.46 | sag_ich_nicht | no... even if they unequip stuff |
| 10:00.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it doesn't. at least not as ret |
| 10:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 10:01.16 | Thelyna | what sort of threat do your tanks sustain though? |
| 10:01.30 | Thelyna | easy to outaggro 500 TPS, not so easy to outaggro 800 TPS |
| 10:01.43 | sag_ich_nicht | they do more than that >.> |
| 10:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | problem is the burst |
| 10:01.47 | zenzelezz | Thelyna: how well a tank can keep aggro depends a lot on the fight in question |
| 10:01.55 | Thelyna | true |
| 10:02.08 | sag_ich_nicht | "whoops quadcrit shit i pulled aggro damn i'm dead" |
| 10:02.42 | sag_ich_nicht | • Bloodrage should no longer initiate combat, though it will prevent rage decay for the duration. |
| 10:02.57 | sag_ich_nicht | about damn time. that has been annoying me since about patch 1.2. |
| 10:03.36 | zenzelezz | one interesting side-effect of that is Bloodrage + Charge |
| 10:03.46 | sag_ich_nicht | I know. |
| 10:03.53 | sag_ich_nicht | I abused that a lot as warrior |
| 10:04.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (and with intercept) |
| 10:04.39 | zenzelezz | Intercept is in-combat though, Charge is out-of-combat |
| 10:04.48 | Kirkburn|afk | *sigh* we've renabled email account confirmation on the wowwiki due a single prick :/ |
| 10:04.54 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:05.04 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn|afk: doh |
| 10:05.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Takes one idiot to ruin it for thousands of others :/ |
| 10:05.47 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:06.33 | sag_ich_nicht | they added all the cloak & glove enchants from 60 that are still useful at 70(like +dodge, +stealth etc.) to some of the outland vendors |
| 10:06.51 | zenzelezz | yeah, finally |
| 10:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid imho, if people want it they should bloody raid the instances it drops in for it |
| 10:07.06 | zenzelezz | not many people want to farm AQ40 for those anymore |
| 10:07.21 | sag_ich_nicht | then find someone who was in AQ40 back then to enchant it for you |
| 10:07.26 | sag_ich_nicht | rare=rare |
| 10:07.34 | zenzelezz | that's what we do now, and it takes days sometimes :) |
| 10:07.35 | sag_ich_nicht | rare != common |
| 10:07.56 | zenzelezz | I just hope the new mats they talk about do not include the stupid Large Brilliant Shards |
| 10:08.03 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:08.03 | zenzelezz | I'm so fed up with those prices |
| 10:08.05 | sag_ich_nicht | • Greater Rune of Warding: Due to persistent bugs with its design, this item has been redesigned for patch 2.2. It now enchants a piece of chest armor so it has a chance per hit of giving you physical damage absorption. |
| 10:08.13 | sag_ich_nicht | they finally gave up on the rune. |
| 10:09.14 | sag_ich_nicht | • Six Demon Bag: The damage spells cast by this item no longer benefit from a player’s bonus spell damage effects. |
| 10:09.16 | sag_ich_nicht | noooooooooooooooo |
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| 10:10.38 | sag_ich_nicht | o Nexus Transformation: This recipe to transform a Nexus Crystal into a Small Prismatic Shard has been added to some Enchanting trainers. |
| 10:10.38 | sag_ich_nicht | o Small Prismatic Shards: This recipe to transform a Large Prismatic Shard into 3 Small Prismatic Shards has been added to some Enchanting trainers. |
| 10:10.55 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 10:27.23 | sag_ich_nicht | New Violet Eye rewards: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8206/newrepfd8.jpg |
| 10:27.55 | Fin | saggy, link the patch notes URL please so that I don't have to make any effort whatsoever |
| 10:28.13 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 10:28.33 | Fin | danke |
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| 10:45.27 | theSmiler | what's the name of the chat frame? |
| 10:48.15 | theSmiler | I can only find a reference to ChatFrameTemplate, and ChatFrame, and neither of them work |
| 10:49.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | <sag_ich_nicht> New Violet Eye rewards: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8206/newrepfd8.jpg |
| 10:49.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that chest piece looks awesome |
| 10:49.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd hit it blizzard |
| 10:49.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd hit it |
| 10:50.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | there really needs to be an addon that allows you to put multiple item links up at once |
| 10:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | so people can stop failing at splicing them together |
| 10:51.19 | zenzelezz | how do you mean? |
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| 11:04.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, click one link, it stays on the screen |
| 11:04.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | when you click the next |
| 11:04.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you can have 8 or 9 on the screen and me not seeing lots of ugly unitframes and stuff in the background :( |
| 11:04.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and horrible cropjobs |
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| 11:04.44 | zenzelezz | aye |
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| 11:11.22 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174686326&sid=1 best. trick. ever. |
| 11:12.47 | zenzelezz | I don't get it. What does Eye for and Eye do? |
| 11:13.15 | Kaso | Either the change will be removed, or it will only proc when the crit would have been a "nautral" one |
| 11:13.27 | Kaso | zenzelezz, it reflects 50% of crit spell damage |
| 11:13.34 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 11:13.45 | Kaso | sorry 30% |
| 11:13.50 | sag_ich_nicht | when you set each hit is guaranteed to be a crit. |
| 11:13.53 | sag_ich_nicht | *sit |
| 11:13.55 | Kaso | Also sitting down doesnt force spellcrits does it? |
| 11:14.02 | sag_ich_nicht | it does. |
| 11:14.03 | clad|sleep | its the mage's fault if it works =) |
| 11:14.14 | Kaso | sure? could have sworn it was just melee |
| 11:14.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i will rofl so hard in the arena |
| 11:14.21 | sag_ich_nicht | wear my tank gear |
| 11:14.24 | clad|sleep | hehehe |
| 11:14.31 | sag_ich_nicht | wait for some AP/Pyro |
| 11:14.32 | sag_ich_nicht | sit down |
| 11:14.42 | sag_ich_nicht | and then lmao |
| 11:14.42 | Kaso | anyway blizzard have a long history of not allowing "forced" crits to proc stuff, so it wont last long. |
| 11:17.45 | Kaso | • Blessing of Protection: This spell can no longer be cast on others when stunned. It can only be cast on self (to break the stun) under those circumstances. |
| 11:17.46 | Kaso | >.< |
| 11:17.48 | Kaso | damn! |
| 11:18.09 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 11:18.10 | sag_ich_nicht | otoh |
| 11:18.14 | sag_ich_nicht | 30 minute blessings! |
| 11:18.39 | clad|sleep | wonder what the main motivation behind the BoSfc change was tho |
| 11:18.58 | Kaso | shadowpriest mana getting i guess? |
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| 11:19.42 | Kaso | if you keep sac up on yourself then you keep getting healed by the VE and keep getting mana from the heals |
| 11:20.39 | sag_ich_nicht | " Yes, AddOns have full access to the voice chat API at the moment. There is no documentation for it, but you'll be able to see it in action on the test server. when it becomes available." |
| 11:20.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:18] <@clad|sleep> wonder what the main motivation behind the BoSfc change was tho <--uhm well |
| 11:20.57 | sag_ich_nicht | 2v2 holy paladin warrior |
| 11:21.00 | sag_ich_nicht | BoS the Warrior |
| 11:21.06 | sag_ich_nicht | wait for sheep on the paladin |
| 11:21.10 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait it broke |
| 11:21.14 | sag_ich_nicht | rinse repeat |
| 11:21.54 | Kaso | ooh that as well |
| 11:22.16 | Kaso | Ive been trying to work out what item caused this change; |
| 11:22.16 | Kaso | • Items that are indicated as quest items in their tooltips and have a “use” or “equip” ability will not work in PvP arenas. |
| 11:22.35 | Kaso | Best i can guess is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13347#M0z |
| 11:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 11:23.32 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5462 is the reason. |
| 11:24.16 | clad|sleep | sag_ich_nicht: Good good.. that's a much better reason. |
| 11:24.26 | Kaso | Hmm, i guess what people look like never really occured to me as an issue, addons make it so much easier. |
| 11:24.29 | clad|sleep | people were saying they did it for Maiden, which I don't believe |
| 11:24.51 | sag_ich_nicht | lol, no, altho it makes her a bit harder |
| 11:24.53 | sag_ich_nicht | but not by much |
| 11:26.00 | sag_ich_nicht | but Kaso that's a nice trinket |
| 11:26.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll be getting that to abuse it to cancel flights. |
| 11:26.36 | Kaso | i wouldnt mind it either, shame im horde /cry |
| 11:26.41 | Kaso | alliance gets all the good quest items! |
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| 11:28.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | <sag_ich_nicht> " Yes, AddOns have full access to the voice chat API at the moment. There is no documentation for it, but you'll be able to see it in action on the test server. when it becomes available." |
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| 11:29.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is going to be abused i feel |
| 11:31.02 | Kaso | this is the biggest bugfix patch ever |
| 11:31.08 | sag_ich_nicht | hell yeah. keybinding to a play song function in a mediaplayer, use a virtual audio pipeline, addon keybinding to switch the input device in WoW to the pipeline |
| 11:31.20 | sag_ich_nicht | "THAT'S A FUCKING 50 DKP MINUS" piped to the whole party |
| 11:31.52 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
| 11:32.18 | clad|sleep | i suspect we'll be able to mute, see who's tralking, etc. |
| 11:32.24 | clad|sleep | i doubt we'll be able to do what you're suggesting |
| 11:32.54 | Neebler | VideoCompiler! |
| 11:32.58 | krka | hmm... voice chat built in to wow now? |
| 11:33.00 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|sleep confirmed and confirmed, yes we will be able to until they protected the function, blizzard has already stated that you will be able to specify different input/output devices for game audio and voice audio |
| 11:33.09 | cladhaire | fun :P |
| 11:33.10 | sag_ich_nicht | krka: it's in the 2.2 PTR but disabled atm |
| 11:33.14 | krka | oh i see |
| 11:33.19 | krka | cool for raids |
| 11:33.36 | nevcairiel | every serious raider has some voice chat anyway |
| 11:33.37 | krka | im assuming you have a whitelist of people you want to listen too? |
| 11:33.41 | krka | (automatically for raid/party) |
| 11:33.51 | sag_ich_nicht | except not, unless they move it to a seperatly process it's going to suck for raiding |
| 11:33.55 | sag_ich_nicht | in case your WoW crashes. |
| 11:34.05 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:34.16 | krka | think blizzard can pull off better raid-comm than stuff like teamspeak/ventrilo? |
| 11:34.16 | nevcairiel | i guess most raiders will stick to TS/Vent |
| 11:34.29 | krka | they can probably have better ingame integration though |
| 11:34.36 | nevcairiel | i know we will ;) |
| 11:34.41 | krka | talk bubbles above talking players head |
| 11:34.42 | krka | or something |
| 11:35.17 | nevcairiel | unitframes are supposed to show who talks |
| 11:35.28 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 11:35.28 | krka | that's useful |
| 11:35.31 | Neebler | just like the LFG tool, it will be slow to adapt. but in time it'll become a standard |
| 11:35.37 | krka | is LFG used these days? |
| 11:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i SUPPOSE people will use the same keybind for vent/TS and the ingame voice chat tho |
| 11:35.44 | MoonWolf | LFG still isn't a standard |
| 11:35.53 | MoonWolf | but use is improving. |
| 11:36.03 | sag_ich_nicht | so that means easy speaking identification now |
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| 11:36.13 | sag_ich_nicht | and if someone doesn't use the same keybinding in my raid i'll flame them :P |
| 11:36.18 | foxlit | It'd win over vent in raid context. |
| 11:36.26 | krka | as long as blizzard don't do anything stupid, like having fear disable your speech :) |
| 11:36.33 | sag_ich_nicht | rofl |
| 11:36.41 | sag_ich_nicht | /r/eq. live/PTR diff |
| 11:36.41 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 11:37.29 | zenzelezz | they'll run the in-game voice chat through filters to ensure you sound like your race |
| 11:37.39 | foxlit | Are PTR forums always about whining rather than bugs? |
| 11:37.42 | krka | that would be <3 |
| 11:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | omg. |
| 11:37.52 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:38.01 | nevcairiel | a female nightelf filter on my voice? meh :D |
| 11:38.01 | sag_ich_nicht | FLYING BROOM MOUNT |
| 11:38.13 | krka | <sound blocked - improper darnassian grammar> |
| 11:38.41 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/broommount.jpg |
| 11:38.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i suppose it will be used in the halloween event like the raindeers for christmas |
| 11:39.23 | Kaso | my god i hope it will be flying |
| 11:39.33 | foxlit | Lies |
| 11:39.43 | foxlit | It's World of Warcraft: Harry Potter and the Flying Lich expansion |
| 11:39.56 | JoshBorke | omfg, that would be so awesome |
| 11:40.08 | JoshBorke | drops off the wicked witch imo |
| 11:40.36 | Kaso | Though to be honest, im more interested in the Zul'Aman bear mount |
| 11:40.38 | Kaso | http://cr0y.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/ad/adbc9721d41775305b76889e21320287fb048600.jpg |
| 11:41.01 | foxlit | A druid on a bear |
| 11:41.05 | foxlit | Just so... wrong. |
| 11:41.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 11:41.35 | foxlit | I wonder, though |
| 11:41.45 | foxlit | With the new hurricane changes, will it do more or less damage on murlocs? |
| 11:41.57 | nevcairiel | hm |
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| 11:42.03 | nevcairiel | which murlocs? tidewalker? |
| 11:42.06 | foxlit | Yep |
| 11:42.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Anyone who wants expansion 2 spoilers go here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=193.0 |
| 11:42.34 | nevcairiel | the limitation is to decrease dmg per target if you hit too many mobs at once |
| 11:42.39 | nevcairiel | not sure where exactly it is |
| 11:43.17 | nevcairiel | but prolly more dmg |
| 11:43.19 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 11:43.23 | foxlit | It's rather shady; I think mages got an explanation at some point |
| 11:43.36 | sag_ich_nicht | (i relinked it because 2.2 adds more btw.) |
| 11:44.44 | JoshBorke | i'm curious, what were the game breaking changes for paladins this time? |
| 11:44.49 | nevcairiel | hm i think i missed that |
| 11:44.56 | nevcairiel | which old god can be seen in darkshore? |
| 11:44.58 | foxlit | BoSanc cooldown means they can no longer break cc |
| 11:45.05 | foxlit | BoS cooldown makes it less spammable |
| 11:45.11 | JoshBorke | ah |
| 11:45.21 | foxlit | s/BoS/BoWhatever the snare removing one is/ |
| 11:45.33 | JoshBorke | blessing of freedom |
| 11:45.33 | cladhaire | BoFreedom |
| 11:45.36 | JoshBorke | but the blessing of sacrifice is kinda big too |
| 11:45.37 | nevcairiel | i love that change for arenas |
| 11:45.41 | JoshBorke | but that's really only PvP |
| 11:45.43 | nevcairiel | finally i can root warriors again :P |
| 11:45.54 | foxlit | Nerfed entangling roots, though |
| 11:46.15 | JoshBorke | priests got out mostly intact |
| 11:47.05 | nevcairiel | what old god can be seen in darkshore? i really mustve missed that i guess |
| 11:47.15 | JoshBorke | there's an old god in darkshore? |
| 11:47.23 | foxlit | Not really |
| 11:47.23 | nevcairiel | Two of the five original old gods are already killed...C'thun and the one that can be seen in Darkshore. |
| 11:47.28 | foxlit | There's a corpse or a sword or something |
| 11:47.48 | foxlit | Now what's C'Thun doing in Outland? |
| 11:47.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:47.59 | nevcairiel | those summoners there |
| 11:48.01 | JoshBorke | that's just his appendage |
| 11:48.02 | nevcairiel | not sure what it was |
| 11:48.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:47] <JoshBorke> there's an old god in darkshore? <--yes |
| 11:48.30 | JoshBorke | besides, we haven't KILLED an old god (ok, maybe we killed rag), we just poked out c'thun's eye |
| 11:48.37 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 11:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | phase 1 is the eye |
| 11:48.43 | sag_ich_nicht | phase 2 is all of him |
| 11:48.56 | sag_ich_nicht | rag isn't an old god |
| 11:49.00 | sag_ich_nicht | he's an elemental lord |
| 11:49.01 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 11:49.25 | sag_ich_nicht | actually nope, i'm wrong |
| 11:49.25 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowwiki.com/Old_God |
| 11:50.00 | krka | old! |
| 11:50.11 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: the dead old god is in darkshore |
| 11:50.12 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: How are you wrong? |
| 11:50.16 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: in the master's glaive |
| 11:50.44 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire yeah i read on i'm right |
| 11:50.49 | cladhaire | lol |
| 11:50.57 | cladhaire | little trigger happy there? |
| 11:50.59 | sag_ich_nicht | rag and his friends are just minions of them |
| 11:51.00 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
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| 11:51.37 | foxlit | Does Mac client throttle based on temperature or something? |
| 11:51.48 | sag_ich_nicht | no but the mac cpu may. |
| 11:51.59 | bleetah | NOOOS! They stole my bucket! :'( "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish. " |
| 11:52.38 | foxlit | Any way to determine if it is throttling? |
| 11:53.08 | sag_ich_nicht | not a mac user, sorry |
| 11:53.23 | JoshBorke | cat /proc/cpuinfo? o.O |
| 11:53.46 | bleetah | apparently no /proc |
| 11:53.51 | bleetah | system profiler maybe |
| 11:54.24 | JoshBorke | so THAT's what that thing is in the master's glaive. it's the skull and a sword |
| 11:56.21 | bleetah | though, I would say, re: my bucket, it'd be nice if there was a trainable pet ability 'detect scummy stealthy folk' |
| 11:59.25 | zenzelezz | you have your Flare |
| 12:01.51 | JoshBorke | and if you're lucky you have a warlock felhound! |
| 12:01.54 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:07.28 | foxlit | New video capturing is <# |
| 12:07.30 | foxlit | <3 |
| 12:07.49 | zenzelezz | wish it wasn't Mac/QT |
| 12:14.09 | mikma | Earthbind Totem: This totem will no longer break Rogue stealth. |
| 12:14.10 | mikma | pff |
| 12:16.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it didn't for a long long time |
| 12:16.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | something broke it rather recently |
| 12:19.03 | mikma | oh damn oh damn |
| 12:19.06 | mikma | is the faire still up |
| 12:21.56 | JunkHead-Work | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=299005978&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 12:22.05 | JunkHead-Work | This cracks me up. |
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| 12:33.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | L70ETC still isn't at the fair |
| 12:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | the song is marked as DMF_ETC_Song or something like that |
| 12:33.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | hinting it's gonna be at the darkmoon faire soon |
| 12:33.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe after blizzcon |
| 12:34.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | the euro forums don't have timestamping, JunkHead-Work? |
| 12:36.20 | JunkHead-Work | No Idea Mr_Rabies2 |
| 12:36.27 | JunkHead-Work | I don't read them very much. |
| 12:36.32 | JunkHead-Work | Only when linked to them. |
| 12:42.35 | zenzelezz | timestamping in what way? |
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| 12:50.47 | Kaso | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=301970475&sid=1 |
| 12:50.53 | Kaso | i love the last line of Thundgots post |
| 12:52.19 | zenzelezz | about visiting the forum? |
| 12:52.35 | Kaso | yeh |
| 12:58.50 | Josh_Borke | yea, that's awesome |
| 12:59.00 | Josh_Borke | the ui forums keeps way better notes than they ever do |
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| 13:40.52 | Nom- | LOL |
| 13:41.08 | Nom- | I love the inevitable "Can I have your stuff?" posts after a "I'm deleting my toon" |
| 13:42.05 | Nom- | PTR down at the moment ? |
| 13:44.44 | sag_ich_nicht | dunno |
| 13:44.48 | sag_ich_nicht | installer is buggy for me |
| 13:45.31 | cog|book | sag_ich_nicht: make sure you delete any existing WoWTest folder first |
| 13:45.49 | cog|book | I've had problems trying to upgrade from one PTR version to another |
| 13:45.56 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 13:46.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it's because i have 2 WoW installs with the ELP |
| 13:46.17 | sag_ich_nicht | one deDE that's somewhere around patch 2.0.3 |
| 13:46.21 | sag_ich_nicht | and one that's the current patch |
| 13:46.29 | sag_ich_nicht | and the PTR patcher doesn't like that it seams |
| 13:46.33 | sag_ich_nicht | *seems |
| 13:46.42 | cog|book | :| |
| 13:47.02 | sag_ich_nicht | which means i have to patch up deDE to 2.1.13 as well -_- |
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| 13:49.41 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 13:50.25 | sag_ich_nicht | let's try this again -.- |
| 13:52.50 | foxlit | sag_ich_nicht: new ELP patches itself |
| 13:53.16 | foxlit | So if you have deDE and enGB, and install an enGB patch, deDE is also updated. |
| 13:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: i noticed when i just tried |
| 13:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT |
| 13:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.51 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah.... how 'bout them Mets? *laugh* |
| 14:02.02 | zenzelezz | yay, a Cairenn! |
| 14:02.08 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 14:02.12 | Cairenn | morning |
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| 14:05.35 | Lopeppeppy | "A" Cairenn? "The" Cairenn, unless you've been hiding another one around about? |
| 14:06.02 | TS|Skrom_ | easy to hide gnomes like you lope |
| 14:06.10 | zenzelezz | I have absolutely no knowledge of any other Cairenns |
| 14:06.13 | Lopeppeppy | Gotta watch those ankles, baby. *winks* |
| 14:06.14 | TS|Skrom_ | you are convenient and fit in most overhead storage bins |
| 14:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | You fit into overhead storage if I chop you up right. |
| 14:06.42 | TS|Skrom_ | :O |
| 14:06.57 | Lopeppeppy | And zenzelezz is a truly good friend, helping dispose of the evidence. |
| 14:08.30 | ts|skrom | how likely am I to actually find a mooncloth bag pattern on the AH these days >< |
| 14:08.54 | Lopeppeppy | It's just in Winterspring at the vendor, IIRC. Go get it. |
| 14:09.03 | ts|skrom | no... MOONCLOTH is on the vendor |
| 14:09.06 | Lopeppeppy | Or am I remembering un-correctly? |
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| 14:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, crud. |
| 14:09.13 | ts|skrom | mooncloth bag is a world boss (and other boss) drop |
| 14:09.18 | ts|skrom | Lethon, etc |
| 14:09.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that sucks. |
| 14:09.38 | Lopeppeppy | That sucks monstrously, because so few people do them anymore. |
| 14:09.40 | ts|skrom | actually take that back, just a random world drop from 57+ or so |
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| 14:10.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... that's not so bad then, people still farm mobs that size. |
| 14:10.21 | ts|skrom | mooncloth bags would be cheaper for me to make then runecloth since I can farm fel and runecloth |
| 14:11.10 | Lopeppeppy | Check the AH, farm the mobs... one will arrive someday. |
| 14:12.21 | ts|skrom | yeah too bad I'm impatient and need bags now XD |
| 14:13.13 | Lopeppeppy | Make a trade with friends? *shrug* |
| 14:13.34 | [dRaCo] | get someone to make you some netherweave bags? |
| 14:13.36 | zenzelezz | isn't there a cooldown on mooncloth? |
| 14:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | I do believe so, zenzelezz. 4 days? |
| 14:15.11 | ts|skrom | nah I'll just buy the stack of rugged and make my 10 runecloth bags lol |
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| 14:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | You can doooo eeeet, TS|Skrom. |
| 14:18.29 | ts|skrom | apparently I can't... runecloth bag isn't from a trainer? |
| 14:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe not.. .maybe a pattern drop? |
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| 14:20.17 | ts|skrom | *sigh* off to winterspring after all XD |
| 14:20.24 | ts|skrom | it's sold there |
| 14:22.48 | Lopeppeppy | See, I knew something worthwile was sold in Winterspring. The vendor in the building where the bank is, left of the door as you go inside. |
| 14:28.39 | ts|skrom | I'm running out of money XD |
| 14:28.56 | ts|skrom | I blew a bunch last night getting enchanting from 160~ to 245 |
| 14:28.58 | Lopeppeppy | That's what happens when you power-level a profession, dear. |
| 14:29.01 | ts|skrom | yep hehe |
| 14:29.07 | deltron | lol |
| 14:29.14 | ts|skrom | although... most of it was farmed so what i've spent the most on is recipes |
| 14:29.23 | ts|skrom | it doesn't seem like much when you get teh recipes as you level |
| 14:29.34 | ts|skrom | but when you learn 50-60 tailoring recipes at once just to clear the trainer... |
| 14:30.00 | Lopeppeppy | That's a huge chunk of change. |
| 14:30.16 | ts|skrom | spent 40g so far this morning and I've been on less then 20 mins |
| 14:30.39 | ts|skrom | may not seem like much to most, but I'm still in pre-bc mindset mostly |
| 14:30.42 | ts|skrom | only level 62 ;-) |
| 14:30.51 | Lopeppeppy | That's a lot of gold for 62. |
| 14:31.32 | ts|skrom | gladly I've gotten all the "buying" parts of the epic lock quest done so I've just gotta farm up the rest of the mats |
| 14:31.45 | ts|skrom | so the rest of my money isn't tied up in anything yet |
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| 14:31.56 | Lopeppeppy | Except getting to 70 and your flying mount. |
| 14:32.02 | deltron | hehe |
| 14:32.05 | ts|skrom | hah, I've got til next year for that :p |
| 14:32.12 | deltron | I gotta finish powerleveling leatherworking :/ |
| 14:33.00 | Lopeppeppy | Daily quests and zone quests here. |
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| 15:34.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Here we go |
| 15:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | VoiceChat.lua |
| 15:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | this:RegisterEvent("COMSAT_START"); |
| 15:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | this:RegisterEvent("COMSAT_STOP"); |
| 15:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha yes |
| 15:34.34 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 15:34.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just reading it over |
| 15:35.20 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 15:35.35 | ScytheBlade1 | MiniMapVoiceChatFrame:Show(); |
| 15:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, another icon on my minimap |
| 15:35.41 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a bit... paranoid about the VOIP inclusion, honestly, so I'm trying to quietly read while not playing ChickenLittle. |
| 15:35.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I couldn't be happier |
| 15:36.14 | ScytheBlade1 | No more running vent on a second computer, because it sucks too hard to run correctly in wine |
| 15:36.36 | Josh_Borke | because it's gonna work perfectly now ;-) |
| 15:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Doesn't matter |
| 15:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If I get basic functionality |
| 15:36.56 | ScytheBlade1 | So I don't have to use two computers at once to raid |
| 15:36.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm happier |
| 15:37.07 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a bit... paranoid about being able to ignore people, how it will handle multiple channels, quality of transmission, presence of goldsellers in my channel, and lastly... the fact that Blizzard will now be policing another venue. |
| 15:37.18 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, and bandwidth usage is important to me as well. |
| 15:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | SetVoiceMuted values are as follows: |
| 15:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | 0 = Voice Unmuted |
| 15:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | 1 = Voice Muted |
| 15:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | There's one question answered. |
| 15:37.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a comment I found |
| 15:37.45 | Lopeppeppy | Can anyone mute anyone? |
| 15:37.56 | Lopeppeppy | So I can mute the goldseller, but they can mute me in revenge and that sucks for my party. |
| 15:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | WHY ARE YOU IN THE PARTY WITH A GOLD SELLER IN THE FIRST PLACE WITH SOUND ENABLED. |
| 15:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 15:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, had to get that out. |
| 15:38.33 | ScytheBlade1 | You can toggle it on/off globally, quickly. |
| 15:38.34 | Lopeppeppy | Because since it's not my server, I can't ban them, so they can come in whenever they want. |
| 15:38.50 | Lopeppeppy | And THEN I can mute them, but I've already had to listen to their jibberish speech while I was executing the command. |
| 15:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It's disabled by default |
| 15:39.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep it that way? |
| 15:39.10 | Lopeppeppy | So everyone is muted by default? |
| 15:39.14 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 15:39.23 | Lopeppeppy | Then I'm missing what you meant by that. |
| 15:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | "VOIP" is *disabled* by default |
| 15:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Not muted |
| 15:39.35 | Maldivia | luckily, it appears they have the common voice chat featues, like push-to-talk, mic sensitivity etc :) |
| 15:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Data won't even be sent to your computer |
| 15:39.38 | ts|skrom | wait... isn't the VOIP localized to your group/raid? |
| 15:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That too. |
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| 15:39.51 | ts|skrom | you won't have a goldseller in your VOIP unless he's in your group/raid |
| 15:39.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Ding ding |
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| 15:40.07 | ts|skrom | oops Lopeppeppy wasn't on to see that |
| 15:40.14 | Lopeppeppy | So I can't use it unless I'm in a party, and only with my party members? |
| 15:40.19 | pastamancer | aww, I wanted voip for trade chat! :p |
| 15:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Party/raid |
| 15:40.22 | Valaron|Work | I can see it now.. general VOIP in Barrens. |
| 15:40.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably BG too. |
| 15:40.35 | Valaron|Work | :) |
| 15:40.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And they may or may not add guild later (I hope they do) |
| 15:40.46 | ts|skrom | that'd be mass insanity |
| 15:40.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that will be lovely. I can't stand to *READ* what half of the monkey say, much less hear them. |
| 15:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd love some real channels personally |
| 15:40.54 | ts|skrom | general I mean |
| 15:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why I was confused that you were worried about having a gold spammer talking to you. |
| 15:41.24 | Maldivia | it seems there's support for multiple channels |
| 15:41.27 | ScytheBlade1 | It's.... not going to happen. |
| 15:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia, yeah, I'm looking at that now, and I can't help but wonder if by "channels" they mean "party" - "raid" - "battleground" - etc |
| 15:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | Unless I'm in a BG? *shrug* They'd never get into my raids/groups, but I can't control who comes into BG's. |
| 15:42.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Disabled by default. |
| 15:42.19 | ts|skrom | Lopeppeppy I'm also pretty sure that when you mute someone it's only in relation to incoming |
| 15:42.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 15:42.31 | ts|skrom | so no, the goldseller can't mute you |
| 15:42.35 | ts|skrom | except for himself |
| 15:43.27 | Lopeppeppy | So there's no channel admin, no one can kick anyone... all we can do is report to GM's? That seems.... it's not as if they can effectively police the chat that goes on already, how will they police these people out of voice chat? |
| 15:43.51 | Lopeppeppy | And will they be recording, to handle violations of the language policy? |
| 15:43.52 | ts|skrom | maybe they'll give officers the ability to kick or raid leader/assistants? |
| 15:43.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Seeing as the UI will visibly say who is speaking |
| 15:44.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's likely recorded who said what and when |
| 15:44.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... great. Blizzard is recording everything now... *shakes head* I really like being the admin on my own little Vent server, so no yahoos get to come and I can control it how I like. |
| 15:44.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, it's not for everyone. |
| 15:45.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Sadly in my case vent will still probably be used, to chat out of game. |
| 15:45.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Or while switching characters, etc. |
| 15:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | And I can Vent chat anytime I want to, party or no. |
| 15:46.06 | Lopeppeppy | Often do, since my best friend lives in Canada, eh. :) |
| 15:46.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh. |
| 15:46.16 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 15:47.20 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty, if you're grouped with someone you don't know, there's no reason to turn it on. *Just imo* |
| 15:47.36 | ScytheBlade1 | In a raid group, chatter is pretty effectively policed as-is |
| 15:47.47 | Lopeppeppy | Until the group requires it, and kicks you if you won't use it... It's just another way to force people to play the game in another person's style. |
| 15:48.08 | ScytheBlade1 | When you're running a 5 man, and you're booted over that |
| 15:48.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Did you REALLY want to run with those people? |
| 15:48.40 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're booted over that, that's not a problem with you, it's a problem with them |
| 15:49.38 | Lopeppeppy | I know this. However, it will make life much easier for the "play my way" goobers, and less easy for those who think VOIP with people dropping the F-bomb is just unnecessary personal hygiene contamination. |
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| 15:50.17 | sag_ich_nicht | F-bomb? |
| 15:50.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't get me wrong: I'm one of those people who don't want the people who swear like a pirate coming over my speakers. |
| 15:50.35 | zenzelezz | excessive use of the F word |
| 15:50.48 | sag_ich_nicht | oh noes |
| 15:50.49 | deltron | heh where? |
| 15:50.50 | sag_ich_nicht | i said fuck |
| 15:50.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a bit biased however, as I never run anything outside of my guild/tight group of friends. |
| 15:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So, I'm not really worried. |
| 15:50.59 | sag_ich_nicht | holy crap noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo my ears they are bleeding |
| 15:51.13 | zenzelezz | your attitude reminds me a lot about the fools that do F-bombs |
| 15:51.15 | sag_ich_nicht | </sarcasm> |
| 15:51.16 | ts|skrom | I think F-Bomb is for when people use it in an otherwise prohibitive forum, but in this case it's acceptable use :D |
| 15:51.38 | Lopeppeppy | I cuss up a storm myself at times... but I just don't care to hang around with strangers who do it excessively, 'cause it's cool, you know. *rolls eyes* |
| 15:51.52 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 15:52.01 | ScytheBlade1 | PUSH_TO_TALK_BUTTON = ""; |
| 15:52.02 | ScytheBlade1 | PUSH_TO_TALK_MODIFIER = ""; |
| 15:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, nice |
| 15:52.05 | ts|skrom | people who do it for shock need to learn there's no shock when you do it 30 times in 30 minutes |
| 15:52.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Button + modifier |
| 15:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | And it seems that many people on VOIP who game are of the variety who enjoy hearing their own voice and think that communication comes across better with all the f-ing they can toss out. |
| 15:52.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Honestly the only thing that's scaring me |
| 15:52.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll still be in a vent with other people from my raid while PUGing |
| 15:52.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Is all of the countless noobs who have never used or configured a mic properly before |
| 15:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | That is going to SUCK. |
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| 15:52.56 | sag_ich_nicht | it's even more fun if you and someone else you know are in the PUG and on the vent but the rest of the PUG isn't and doesn't know >:) |
| 15:53.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, yes it is. Because THEY are totally the ones who think cussing is cool, and they have to always be nattering on in order to be effective. |
| 15:53.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 15:53.19 | sag_ich_nicht | otoh it's a great noob filter |
| 15:53.25 | ScytheBlade1 | VoiceOptionsFrame.lua uses RegisterForSave()! !! |
| 15:53.33 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 15:53.38 | Josh_Borke | that's because they can |
| 15:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 15:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 15:53.46 | Lopeppeppy | I don't care to filter noobs. I care to not encounter them at all. I exclude them by the way they type in General/LFG. |
| 15:54.13 | sag_ich_nicht | "hey turn on voip" "<squeky12yearoldvoice>hi</squeky12yearoldvoice>" Squeky 12 year old has been removed from the group. |
| 15:54.22 | sag_ich_nicht | >:) |
| 15:54.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol win |
| 15:54.53 | Lopeppeppy | I have a very young voice though... people swear I'm much much younger than I am. |
| 15:54.57 | Lopeppeppy | So you'd boot me. |
| 15:55.08 | Lopeppeppy | My loss, I need to get a voice modifier! |
| 15:55.11 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 16:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | VOICECHAT_DELAY = 1.25; |
| 16:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 16:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to wonder what that is |
| 16:00.04 | [dRaCo] | Realtime editing, like beeping out fuck on TV! |
| 16:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:00.04 | Lopeppeppy | Awesome. |
| 16:00.38 | cog|work | LFG for happy thoughts sent to my great uncle http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july132007/missing_pilot_071307.php |
| 16:01.04 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, Cogs. *hugs* |
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| 16:03.11 | ts|skrom | omg |
| 16:03.20 | ts|skrom | please don't take offense but he looks like a gnome |
| 16:03.42 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 16:03.47 | ts|skrom | it's.... uncanny |
| 16:03.56 | cog|work | a 6'1" gnome... |
| 16:04.26 | ts|skrom | I just meant the hair and face mainly lol |
| 16:04.42 | cog|work | "please don't take offense" <---- I considered it a "happy thought" :) |
| 16:04.43 | ts|skrom | he's got that... I just got out of the workshop and am up to some mischief look |
| 16:05.22 | deltron | mmm |
| 16:05.27 | deltron | enchant weapon +20 agi |
| 16:05.38 | deltron | imagine dual wielding with that done twice |
| 16:05.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Good thing I'm exalted |
| 16:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | And know multiple rogues who come to me personally for enchants |
| 16:06.03 | deltron | same |
| 16:06.04 | ScytheBlade1 | >=) |
| 16:06.08 | deltron | I can do the LW stuff also :D |
| 16:06.37 | deltron | enchanting/lw here :D |
| 16:08.39 | deltron | i'm freaking exalted with a lot of factions hehe |
| 16:09.46 | Wobin_ | cog|work: Hope everything works out =\ |
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| 16:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, does buydropper extract from the bank yet or no? I remember it as "not working yet" - but I'm curious |
| 16:22.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I have an actual need for withdrawl from bank now |
| 16:22.49 | cog|work | no. Maybe try FreeRefills |
| 16:22.59 | ScytheBlade1 | mmkay, thanks |
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| 16:24.58 | Valaron|Work | I made fried chicken drumsticks last night. Mmmmmm |
| 16:25.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh my holy.... *passes out in delight* |
| 16:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | Pally buff duration doubled in 2.2! |
| 16:26.31 | |Jelly| | *sigh* Why can't they make them all 30 min and 1h? Seriously. |
| 16:26.32 | zenzelezz | yup, it's quite seks |
| 16:27.28 | Lopeppeppy | I wish they would, |Jelly|, but this is a serious improvement for me, so I'm pretty stoked. |
| 16:27.40 | Lopeppeppy | Now PallyPower will need updating, but I have no worries on that score. |
| 16:28.18 | foxlit | PallyPower needs replacing :) |
| 16:28.27 | Wobin_ | <3 freerefills |
| 16:29.51 | Lopeppeppy | And holy shit... "Pets will no longer chase players that Vanish. " |
| 16:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait |
| 16:29.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Really? |
| 16:29.55 | Lopeppeppy | Replace PallyPower with something that does the same work, and I'll try that too. I'm not fussy. |
| 16:30.13 | Lopeppeppy | I cut/paste from the patch notes, ScytheBlade1. They fixed that mechanic, amen. |
| 16:30.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I know a few rogues that are going to be overjoyed. |
| 16:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And the hunter forums are going to erupt in whines. |
| 16:30.46 | Lopeppeppy | Like me, for one. It took a very long time to get that bug acknowledged.... |
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| 16:31.03 | zenzelezz | about which change ScytheBlade1? The pet/vanish thing? |
| 16:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
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| 16:33.11 | |Jelly| | Where are the 2.2 patch notes? |
| 16:33.28 | zenzelezz | several places, worldofraids for one |
| 16:33.38 | Valaron|Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174505927&sid=1 |
| 16:33.41 | cog|work | |Jelly|: the PTR patcher for one thing :P |
| 16:33.52 | Lopeppeppy | What Valaron said. |
| 16:34.07 | |Jelly| | Hey look...Valaron helped without me having to really, you know...download other crap. :P |
| 16:34.35 | |Jelly| | And for the record, I would google it but I've found that yields not so real results sometimes. lol |
| 16:34.36 | Valaron|Work | I'm at work, so I can't play. So no downloading anything for me. |
| 16:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | I like to see them off the WoW site, that way I don't have to go and confirm them after reading them, just to make sure I haven't found a "ha ha funny" spoof. |
| 16:36.52 | Lopeppeppy | People LOVE to do that. |
| 16:37.06 | Valaron|Work | Hmm? |
| 16:37.11 | Valaron|Work | What do you mean? |
| 16:37.20 | zenzelezz | worldofraids is a pretty decent source for patch notes |
| 16:37.22 | cog|work | Valaron|Work: fake patch notes |
| 16:37.24 | |Jelly| | *sigh* Priests get...really nothing. |
| 16:37.30 | Valaron|Work | Oh |
| 16:37.33 | |Jelly| | +Heal Lightwell. woo |
| 16:37.36 | Lopeppeppy | Edit the patch notes and post them around. It's unhappy to go hunting for new patch notes and get spoof. |
| 16:37.39 | Valaron|Work | Isn't my link off the WoW site? |
| 16:37.54 | |Jelly| | Yeah. |
| 16:38.04 | |Jelly| | They're talking about how like I said I didn't want to google the 2.2 patch notes. |
| 16:38.05 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: The funny thing is that these patch notes have so many typos and other mistakes that I thought they were spoofed >< |
| 16:38.21 | cog|work | Look under the UI section: they mentioned the changes to the macro system twice :P |
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| 16:38.31 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. I didn't notice... maybe because they were edited afterward by another CM on the Bliz site? |
| 16:39.01 | Lopeppeppy | Nathaera might have cleaned up after Hortus. :) |
| 16:45.39 | zenzelezz | "Marc Nathoni writes with a ZDet article about a critically dangerous hole in the Java Runtime Environment." -- funky |
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| 17:05.08 | Valaron|Work | Marc Anthony? |
| 17:05.08 | Lopeppeppy | Et tu? |
| 17:05.09 | zenzelezz | Valaron|Work: trained dolphins could not find funny in your joke |
| 17:05.09 | Lopeppeppy | Because there is no fish. I found it, I don't need fish. |
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| 17:05.09 | Valaron|Work | Ha ha.. I know :( |
| 17:05.09 | Valaron|Work | I'm pathetic. |
| 17:05.09 | Wobin_ | So long and thanks for all the fish |
| 17:05.09 | Wobin_ | Who knew that it would come to this |
| 17:05.09 | Wobin_ | We tried to warn you, but oh dear. |
| 17:05.09 | Lopeppeppy | Better dolphins than mice. |
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| 17:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone having problems getting the PTR running on wine? |
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| 17:34.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | they changed sound heavily in windows |
| 17:34.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | so there's a chance they broke wine support entirely for now |
| 17:34.53 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 17:35.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That's bad |
| 17:35.03 | ScytheBlade1 | That's _really_ bad |
| 17:35.35 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 17:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder if I can mute it all by default and it'll work |
| 17:37.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | go into the config |
| 17:37.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | .wtf maybe |
| 17:37.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | and see if SESOUND.log has anything of interest |
| 17:37.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it may be entirely unrelated |
| 17:37.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they did change it a ton |
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| 17:39.12 | Mr_Rabies | in config.wtf: |
| 17:39.13 | Mr_Rabies | SET VoiceActivationSensitivity "0" |
| 17:39.13 | Mr_Rabies | SET EnableMicrophone "0" |
| 17:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 0 byte file |
| 17:39.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope... hangs on launch |
| 17:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy. Not. *sigh* |
| 17:40.19 | Mr_Rabies | SET SoundUseHardware "0" |
| 17:40.28 | Beladona | is voice fully functional on test? |
| 17:40.30 | Mr_Rabies | try adding some of these manually to config.wtf |
| 17:40.33 | Mr_Rabies | not yet, Beladona |
| 17:40.40 | Beladona | just the api backend then? |
| 17:40.44 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 17:40.46 | Mr_Rabies | and the frame |
| 17:40.48 | Josh_Borke | hi bela |
| 17:40.59 | Beladona | hopefully it works better than vent, but I doubt it |
| 17:41.07 | Mr_Rabies | with some hacking together of config.wtf you may be able to get it halfway working |
| 17:41.09 | Beladona | and hopefully it works even when you are in vent |
| 17:41.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Locks on launch still |
| 17:41.14 | Mr_Rabies | depends on what audio driver they're using |
| 17:41.27 | Mr_Rabies | are you using the opengl flag, ScytheBlade1? |
| 17:41.29 | Lopeppeppy | I can just imagine my ears trying to hear both programs, Vent and in-game VOIP. |
| 17:41.31 | ScytheBlade1 | -opengl |
| 17:41.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure am. |
| 17:41.54 | Beladona | well I can see the benefit of in-game for pugs, but I am not sure I need it that bad |
| 17:41.56 | Mr_Rabies | there's gotta be a mute sound one |
| 17:41.58 | Mr_Rabies | -s or something maybe |
| 17:42.09 | Mr_Rabies | i've done it before, Lopeppeppy |
| 17:42.20 | Mr_Rabies | TS with my RL friends, Vent with my guild |
| 17:42.41 | Mr_Rabies | too many times did i accidentally make fun of guildies to their faces though instead of behind their backs with rl friends |
| 17:42.53 | Beladona | haha |
| 17:42.58 | Mr_Rabies | one time i made fun of this idiot rogue in vent instead of teamspeak and his mom raided with us |
| 17:43.08 | Mr_Rabies | she was pissed but i masked my voice enough that she couldn't tell |
| 17:43.17 | Mr_Rabies | so i laid low for a while |
| 17:43.33 | Mr_Rabies | his mom was cool |
| 17:43.35 | Mr_Rabies | but he was awful |
| 17:43.50 | Mr_Rabies | she was a pretty good mage, always fairly high on dps and everything |
| 17:44.25 | Lopeppeppy | Mom. Adult. Son. Not? |
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| 17:46.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | ScytheBlade1, have you tried cedega at all? |
| 17:46.28 | deltron | cedega for wow? |
| 17:46.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm hardly knowledgeable about the open sourcery, but i heard cedega works pretty well |
| 17:46.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | open sorcery |
| 17:46.54 | deltron | wine works well for wow now |
| 17:47.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | not the ptr, apparently |
| 17:47.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | according to scythe |
| 17:47.23 | deltron | oh |
| 17:47.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Mr_Rabies2, nope. Not going to |
| 17:48.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | you may be SOL then :[ |
| 17:48.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I start WoW, get a crash report. |
| 17:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception |
| 17:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Program:C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoWTest\WoW.exe |
| 17:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Exception:0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 0023:7C3320F0 |
| 17:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | The instruction at "0x7C3320F0" referenced memory at "0x7C3320F0". |
| 17:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | The memory could not be "written". |
| 17:48.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | your best bet is to post that and hope hortus can track it down |
| 17:48.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | or find someone who can |
| 17:49.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 17:49.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'm going to |
| 17:49.36 | [dRaCo] | The instruction at "0x7C3320F0" referenced memory at "0x7C3320F0". <-- wtf? recursion? :> |
| 17:49.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | HAY DID YOU BLAH WTF WDB INTERFACE BLAH |
| 17:49.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I should have read what I posted |
| 17:49.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the memory address i think, [dRaCo] |
| 17:50.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That explains a bit |
| 17:50.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ) at 0023:7C3320F |
| 17:50.19 | [dRaCo] | Mr_Rabies2: yep, it is |
| 17:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | The CPU is pegged and it eventually dies |
| 17:50.49 | [dRaCo] | but an instruction refering to its own memory adress is weird, at least afaik |
| 17:54.54 | Josh_Borke | WELL YOU KNOW WRONG! |
| 17:55.09 | [dRaCo] | caps? |
| 17:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | Have some Tums? |
| 17:55.29 | Josh_Borke | emphasis |
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| 17:55.58 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. |
| 17:56.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet mercury could tell you exactly what was wrong, ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:56.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that man knows the wow memory addresses better than blizzard i bet |
| 17:56.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Where is he? |
| 17:56.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh lol |
| 17:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Merc |
| 17:56.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 17:57.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | from glider :p |
| 17:57.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 17:57.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i honestly have a lot of respect for the guy |
| 17:57.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's not like most cheaters |
| 17:57.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | he has a sense of honor about him that's hard to explain |
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| 17:59.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think he's ever said anything other than he loves wow except for the leveling and faction grinding and whatnot. the carrot on the stick portion of MMOs that blizzard has mastered so well |
| 17:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Or I push the wrong button |
| 17:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Whatever |
| 18:00.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's never made allusions to glider being the perfect program or entirely uncatchable, he's never acted like he's some master haxor and ownz bli$$ard |
| 18:01.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't use it because i value my account, but the guy interests me |
| 18:02.19 | Lopeppeppy | It's good to know about the mechanics and concepts, even if you don't agree/use the mechanics and concepts. |
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| 18:07.32 | TheZanke | is it possible to put an itemlink into a macro? if you cant Not craft it... i am trying to make a macro to ask if anyone can make my [Cobrascale Hood].. |
| 18:11.32 | foxlit | Not directly. |
| 18:12.31 | foxlit | You could get fancy with SendChatMessage and GetItemInfo, but that's going through Lua, not the macro system. |
| 18:13.11 | TheZanke | i have supermacro and can use lua is there anyway you can tell me how? |
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| 18:14.45 | ts|skrom | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 18:14.57 | ts|skrom | CTRL+F -> GetItemInfo, and SendChatMessage |
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| 18:32.24 | Lunessa | Dear Community - Please stop whatever you're doing and make sure a WoW Developer fixes "(insert pet gripe here)" because WoW is totally broken until this is fixed. |
| 18:32.37 | Lopeppeppy | Totally. |
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| 18:34.43 | Lunessa | I should write a post "What they say" v s "What they actually mean" for typical UI forum posts. Chances are though, it would be bitter and not at all amusing to those who would feel it's sting. |
| 18:37.04 | Lopeppeppy | They say, "My addons don't work! Fix it!" |
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| 18:37.24 | Lopeppeppy | They mean "I didn't read the FAQ on how to install, or troubleshoot, so my addons aren't installed correctly and I want you to hold my hand now." |
| 18:38.20 | Lunessa | "Don't make me read anything, don't make me learn anything. Just f___ing do it for me, n00b!" |
| 18:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Via mind control, or better yet, come to my house. |
| 18:40.35 | Lunessa | It sort of reminds me of the Tae-Quwon-Leap sketch by the Frantics. "Listen Shrimp, are you going to show me some fancy moves, or am I going to have to start wiping the walls with you?" |
| 18:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | "Boot to the head." |
| 18:41.01 | Lopeppeppy | Thought it was Dr. Demento. |
| 18:41.21 | Lunessa | Macro Noob, you fail to understand. Approach that I may show you, "Boot off my forums." |
| 18:42.00 | Lopeppeppy | "nyeh nyeh!" |
| 18:42.09 | Lunessa | Dr. Demento was the host of the Dr. Demento show on KLSX in Los Angeles for years, he played all the comedy bits. The group that did that bit was from Calgary, called "The Frantics." |
| 18:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | Ah... now I see the logic of how it is labeled on my hard drive. |
| 18:42.44 | Lunessa | <-- Has the anniversary CD sets. |
| 18:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | I like the D&D sketch best. |
| 18:43.09 | Lunessa | I used to tune my raido to him every Saturday night in High School and College. |
| 18:43.23 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent fun. |
| 18:46.08 | Lunessa | Haha... Soulken: "We have some great changes coming down the pike for you guys in 2.4, but I can't say anything else about it yet. *grin*" |
| 18:46.30 | Lopeppeppy | Tease, tease, tease. |
| 18:47.08 | Lunessa | Hey, want better combat log strings, little boy? ... psyche! |
| 18:47.27 | Lunessa | I know... I'm easily amused. |
| 18:48.05 | Lopeppeppy | The singing at the end of the Boot to the Head sketch is annoying my cat to no end. |
| 18:49.20 | Lunessa | Haha... "Kitties smoking in movie shows, give them a boot to the head!" |
| 18:49.43 | Lopeppeppy | She laid her ears right back... you have to admit the singing is deliberately atrocious. |
| 18:50.02 | Lunessa | I do admit it. It's why I love it so. |
| 18:50.23 | Lunessa | The group has some AWESOME bits that never got air-play for being... graphic. |
| 18:50.59 | Lopeppeppy | Naw, they can't possibly offend anyone! *giggle* |
| 18:50.59 | Lunessa | They did a bit called "Our Love" which has some very nice, simple acoustic guitar and melodious singing. |
| 18:52.51 | Lopeppeppy | Well, that's a good one then. |
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| 18:55.05 | Lunessa | "Let us meditate upon this wisdom now." |
| 18:55.17 | Lopeppeppy | "Aaaahhhh, ooooohhhh, oooooo...." |
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| 19:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | People are such asses. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174615954&postId=3004340688&sid=1#4 |
| 19:03.53 | zenzelezz | especially that last poster |
| 19:04.06 | Lopeppeppy | Why thanks. *frown* |
| 19:07.07 | Lopeppeppy | If I'm factually incorrect, feel free to post and give better info. |
| 19:08.30 | Fin | what a little turd burgler |
| 19:11.23 | Lunessa | Meh... He has some validity to "I didn't read" But ... The font he want IS in CF2. |
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| 19:12.02 | Fin | he's a little turd burgler |
| 19:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | There is a valid point, I don't dispute. *huggle* Polite I do dispute. It costs one nothing to be gracious in this world, and gains you many things. |
| 19:12.25 | |Jelly| | I think he's a douche bag. |
| 19:12.31 | Fin | turd burgler |
| 19:12.43 | Lunessa | He is. I am too, I'm just ... not as obvious about it. |
| 19:12.48 | ts|skrom | People who say "it costs you nothing to be gracious" have never been walked on imo |
| 19:12.53 | Fin | Lunessa: you are now |
| 19:13.16 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom.... gracious people get walked on even more. That's why you also have to have self-confidence and a spine of steel. |
| 19:13.24 | Lunessa | Fin: You're being mean. You're not supposed to agree with mre. |
| 19:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | Robble robble? |
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| 19:14.41 | |Jelly| | *sigh* ads on the ace updater in my damned way for seeing what I want to see. |
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| 19:16.04 | Lunessa | I am Vicious, Mean, Evil and Nasty - those are my *good* qulaities. |
| 19:16.44 | ts|skrom | Bubble Bobbble |
| 19:16.51 | ts|skrom | now THERE was a great game |
| 19:17.53 | Lopeppeppy | Don't Break The Ice. |
| 19:18.12 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174615954&postId=3004340941&sid=1#11 <- Is he serious? |
| 19:18.13 | |Jelly| | .... |
| 19:19.17 | Lopeppeppy | Vote -- leave the douche bag hanging. Rude deserves to die alone. |
| 19:19.19 | Lunessa | he's serious like a heart attack. |
| 19:19.36 | Fin | Vicious, Mean, Evil, Nasty, and their three younger brothers, Bit Lazy, Age?ing, and Forgetting Stuff More Often These Days |
| 19:20.01 | Lopeppeppy | Fin, you should go onto QVC and sell Pearl Cream. |
| 19:21.09 | |Jelly| | And for the record, I just checked and if the font that I found isn't the exact one...it's damned close. |
| 19:21.13 | Lunessa | ... |
| 19:21.15 | |Jelly| | (In ClearFont) |
| 19:21.17 | Fin | Pearl Cream: quality cream you can trust to keep that pearly sheen we all love so much |
| 19:21.23 | Thunder_Child | uhhh..guys, the best place to get clearfont is from "http://www.clearfont.co.uk/" |
| 19:21.24 | ts|skrom | can the next "lesson" be "how to follow the context of a conversation?" |
| 19:21.33 | |Jelly| | So he can't come back with "omg...I tried them all" |
| 19:22.40 | Thunder_Child | s/guys/people/ |
| 19:22.42 | Fin | I challenge you to respond without using quotes to emphasise your point while mocking the original poster! |
| 19:23.19 | Kirkburn|afk | :O |
| 19:23.52 | Lopeppeppy | Have at it. |
| 19:24.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, I haven't updated the ClearFont website since April >< I'm useless :( |
| 19:24.45 | ts|skrom | Done and done |
| 19:24.59 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn|afk: agreed |
| 19:25.17 | Kirkburn|afk | meanie |
| 19:25.33 | Lunessa | Kirkburn|afk: YOU'RE USRESS AREC BARDWIN! |
| 19:25.39 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn|afk, you fail |
| 19:25.40 | Lopeppeppy | With flied lice! |
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| 19:26.06 | Kirkburn|afk | I *think* it's the Lucida font |
| 19:26.18 | ts|skrom | I'm growing a little weary of x-perl |
| 19:26.23 | Kirkburn|afk | could it be in shared media? |
| 19:26.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I tried x-perl |
| 19:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Never liked it |
| 19:26.26 | ts|skrom | Suggestions for unit frames? |
| 19:26.40 | Thunder_Child | huh...it's friday the 13th...go figure |
| 19:26.40 | |Jelly| | Pitbull. |
| 19:26.45 | Kirkburn|afk | ^ wot he sed |
| 19:26.48 | Lopeppeppy | ag_uf |
| 19:26.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ag_UF |
| 19:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Pitbull is overkill imo |
| 19:27.10 | Kirkburn|afk | What's your definition of overkill? |
| 19:27.11 | |Jelly| | There is no such thing as Overkill. |
| 19:27.16 | ScytheBlade1 | ag_UF is simple, sexy, does everything I'd ever want it to, and then some. |
| 19:27.18 | |Jelly| | Go talk to the discord community. |
| 19:27.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 19:27.23 | ts|skrom | lol |
| 19:27.31 | Thunder_Child | none of them have seprate party frames damit |
| 19:27.34 | Lunessa | Now if you had said it was collateral damage, I might have believed you... |
| 19:28.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Tbh, yeah, I would try both |
| 19:28.18 | Thunder_Child | ~whalestab |Jelly| |
| 19:28.19 | purl | ACTION stabs |Jelly| with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 19:28.25 | |Jelly| | ZOMG! |
| 19:28.26 | Thunder_Child | DUF was damn good |
| 19:28.29 | ts|skrom | ag_UF Have health deficit/max, debuff coloring, focus, party and raid support seperate from other modules? |
| 19:28.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Or at least try one of them |
| 19:28.37 | |Jelly| | ~whaleparry Thunder_Child |
| 19:28.38 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Thunder_Child's attacks. |
| 19:28.41 | |Jelly| | ...even though I'm already dead! |
| 19:28.41 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, they're in there. |
| 19:28.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ts|skrom, yup. |
| 19:28.49 | Thunder_Child | pfft, to leat...you said so yourself |
| 19:28.56 | Thunder_Child | late* |
| 19:29.02 | |Jelly| | [14:28]<|Jelly|>...even though I'm already dead! |
| 19:29.08 | Lunessa | AG_UF is pretty nice. PitBull is pretty nice. DUF used to be pretty nice. |
| 19:29.13 | ts|skrom | hrm... that's my main problem with X-perl atm, I can't have focus without target and I can't have pet without player |
| 19:29.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Try ag_UF |
| 19:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It doesn't disappoint |
| 19:29.52 | ts|skrom | I use icehud for target and player, don't need extra windows for em. but then the focus and pet look goofy >< |
| 19:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | There are also modules for aggro and range that you can get, TS|Skrom. |
| 19:30.08 | Lopeppeppy | My pally finds those sexy. |
| 19:30.36 | Lunessa | X-perl visually offends me. |
| 19:30.38 | ts|skrom | easy to setup? |
| 19:30.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Very |
| 19:30.49 | ScytheBlade1 | It works for me largely out of the box |
| 19:30.52 | |Jelly| | Yeah. Get those modules that Pitbull has already in them. |
| 19:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Menus are simple, straightforward |
| 19:31.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yet gives you everything you need |
| 19:34.29 | ts|skrom | what ever became of the wowecon hacking scandal? |
| 19:34.42 | Lopeppeppy | Almost.... done... with this site.... |
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| 19:34.50 | |Jelly| | What site? |
| 19:34.52 | Lopeppeppy | I think it died for lack of oxygen, from behind sat on. |
| 19:34.58 | Lopeppeppy | *being sat on |
| 19:35.05 | ScytheBlade1 | "Scandal"? I saw that thread had all of 300 views and didn't care. |
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| 19:35.24 | ts|skrom | yes well... exaggeration theatre is the name of the game today |
| 19:36.34 | Lopeppeppy | Not evah! |
| 19:37.11 | |Jelly| | Lopeppeppy: Almost.... done... with this site.... ? |
| 19:37.26 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah. Jazz is done, time to go get me a man slave to do my laundry. |
| 19:37.35 | ts|skrom | one more "how do I install" then she could take? |
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| 19:37.49 | |Jelly| | I don't know. Apparently flaming them gets you in trouble. |
| 19:37.52 | Lunessa | haha! Posts are like Oxygen. Get too much, the counts too high? Not enough and you're going to die? |
| 19:38.20 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, I do web content transfer for Skidmore College. Sometimes the cut-paste-adjust-Photoshop-upload grind drives me.... crazier than I already am! |
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| 19:38.33 | |Jelly| | ahh |
| 19:38.36 | |Jelly| | Fun stuff. lol |
| 19:38.37 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.52 | Lopeppeppy | A'ite. Y'all stay good, I'm gone. |
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| 19:38.58 | wereHamster | but the ptr patcher says: This update requires "WoW.exe" version 2.1.3.6898. You have an older version, 2.1.2.6803. |
| 19:39.07 | ts|skrom | Skidmore College -- Driving school for dummies |
| 19:47.27 | Tem | hah! |
| 19:47.37 | Tem | I finally fixed my battlefield minimap disappearance |
| 19:47.50 | Tem | LoadAddOn("Blizzard_BattlefieldMinimap") |
| 19:48.01 | Tem | BattlefieldMinimap:SetClamedToScreen(true) |
| 19:48.08 | Tem | BattlefieldMinimapTab:SetClamedToScreen(true) |
| 19:48.23 | ts|skrom | I install ag_uf and all of the sudden tinytip isn't moving my tooltip? |
| 19:48.23 | Tem | WINNAR |
| 19:48.52 | Tem | probably because you touch yourself at night |
| 19:49.06 | Tem | (or more likely you have libs interfering) |
| 19:49.14 | Tem | (yay for poor upgrade design) |
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| 19:49.37 | ts|skrom | nm |
| 19:50.06 | ts|skrom | I had imported some old CT_Core settings which I forgot about and it changed tooltip to on anchor instead of default |
| 19:50.06 | ts|skrom | was moving it back to the side |
| 19:50.16 | Tem | aha |
| 19:51.03 | Fin | hey, so, did you hear the joke about the deaf guy who walked into a bar? |
| 19:51.11 | Fin | yeah, neither did he |
| 19:51.12 | Lunessa | Noether did he |
| 19:51.33 | Fin | I think technically I still win that round |
| 19:51.41 | Fin | but... I am weakend |
| 19:51.44 | Fin | +e |
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| 19:53.13 | ts|skrom | what thread fin? |
| 19:54.05 | Fin | ts|skrom: the thread to end all threads! IRC VII: Return of DOOMSLAYERWORLDNET! |
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| 19:56.11 | Fin | actually just IRC |
| 19:59.44 | ts|skrom | well so far I like the look of ag_uf |
| 20:00.11 | Josh_Borke | good :-) |
| 20:04.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I really love ag_UF |
| 20:06.43 | ts|skrom | oh noes |
| 20:06.54 | ts|skrom | get an error in ag_uf when trying to copy a profile :( |
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| 20:14.04 | ts|skrom | can you group raid frames by class? I'm not seeing it... |
| 20:14.29 | |Jelly| | In PRaid you can. 8P |
| 20:15.00 | ts|skrom | might have found it, is it group filter? |
| 20:17.04 | ts|skrom | oh sweet |
| 20:17.40 | ts|skrom | I can make a raid set for BG's (sorted by group number) and a seperate set for 40 and 20's hehe rock on |
| 20:18.55 | ts|skrom | or at least it seems taht way lol |
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| 20:21.48 | Lunessa | Ineed. I <3 PerfectRaid |
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| 20:32.07 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: You're on your own with font boy...I'm done trying to help him. |
| 20:32.25 | Lunessa | So was I after I posted the directions. |
| 20:32.32 | Lunessa | I reading other forums. |
| 20:32.41 | Lunessa | i/iam |
| 20:32.42 | |Jelly| | sweet. maybe he'll diaf now. 8P |
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| 20:40.06 | ts|skrom | can you use modifier keys other then ctrl, shift and alt with clique |
| 20:40.13 | Josh_Borke | there are no other modifiers |
| 20:40.27 | ts|skrom | I didn't think so |
| 20:40.51 | Josh_Borke | when we get LSHIFT/RShift then you can talk clad into enabling those |
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| 20:51.56 | Lunessa | I don't think we'll have to talk him into it. I think he'll just do it, cause he wants them too. |
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| 21:00.48 | Kirkburn|afk | For that font guy, on his latest post - the reason why those four options show the right font is because they are looking in the location where he just replaced them with his own |
| 21:01.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Dunno if someone wants to post that? :) |
| 21:01.10 | Kirkburn|afk | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174615954&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 21:01.43 | Kirkburn|afk | As to why he's not seeing it in some places in-game I dunno |
| 21:02.20 | Kirkburn|afk | He might have them being controlled by other addons (e.g. Pitbull style), or perhaps forgot to delete old versions of ClearFont |
| 21:03.17 | Kirkburn|afk | I have a feeling Lunessa and |Jelly| don't really want to :P |
| 21:03.52 | Lunessa | Kirkburn, I'm happy to post it. I'm just not happy to help rude people. :P |
| 21:04.04 | Lunessa | I'm rude enough for any 5 people, really. |
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| 21:12.38 | Lunessa | I posted. Maybe my post/questions will elicit the information needed to solve his perceived problem. |
| 21:15.18 | ts|skrom | okay trying pitbull now |
| 21:15.35 | ts|skrom | I'm on buff filtering, is that what I do or do not see (checked) |
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| 21:18.06 | Thunder_Child | try it out |
| 21:18.21 | zenzelezz | ah Curator, making me feel all DPS... http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/pewpew.jpg |
| 21:18.48 | ts|skrom | lol not sure how, I've just got a level 22 hunter in my group and aspect of the hawk isn't in the checklist |
| 21:19.26 | Thunder_Child | heh zenzelezz, our lock got 2 25K crits from his CoT |
| 21:19.53 | zenzelezz | shut up and let me enjoy this, my normal damage is in the low hundreds =D |
| 21:20.41 | Lunessa | ts|skrom: Buff/debuff filtering the filter is what to see. |
| 21:20.49 | Tem | zenzelezz, prot warrior? |
| 21:20.56 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 21:21.17 | ts|skrom | so checked = see |
| 21:21.19 | ts|skrom | thanks lun |
| 21:21.27 | Tem | lol at the "panic" sheild wall macro |
| 21:21.29 | Lunessa | YW |
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| 21:22.04 | zenzelezz | Tem: it's SW/Retaliation/Recklessness :-) |
| 21:22.41 | Lunessa | zomg - default action bars. |
| 21:23.05 | zenzelezz | only temporarily |
| 21:23.22 | zenzelezz | redesigning the whole UI, so using them until I have the rest changed |
| 21:24.22 | Lunessa | :chuckle: I actually don't hate them, I just like to configure action bars to my way of thinking/playing instead of conforming to the default. |
| 21:24.35 | zenzelezz | I don't hate them either, but they're in a bad location |
| 21:25.14 | Lunessa | ... /agree |
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| 21:26.00 | Tem|Icecream | *sigh& |
| 21:26.08 | Tem | the dairy store closed early |
| 21:30.26 | Lunessa | Man, this guy is just going to repost this every day, isn't he? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174507082&sid=1 |
| 21:33.01 | Maldivia | hehe, I was about to comment on the same thnig :) |
| 21:33.23 | Maldivia | but nontheless, it's still a rather annoying problem |
| 21:33.42 | Maldivia | on the PTR it's very easy to reproduce |
| 21:34.00 | Lunessa | Yeah, sure fine, but... no sense in posting it every day. |
| 21:34.50 | Maldivia | on PTR, rightclick the feeedback icon, type /who, rightclick your own name and select target, and boom :) |
| 21:36.14 | Lunessa | ... guildee liked the Starship Troopers movie... /gkick |
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| 21:48.05 | ts|skrom | I liked the first starship troopers |
| 21:48.15 | ts|skrom | but not Starship Troopers 2: Straight to fucking video |
| 21:48.15 | zenzelezz | there was more than one? |
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| 21:49.56 | Lunessa | ts|skrom: as a bad, but high-budget SF flick, it would have been fine. But to sodomize the novel by making it into a "fascism is bad, m'kay?" film .... it really disappointed me. |
| 21:50.29 | ts|skrom | I thought it was "facism is good, m'kay" |
| 21:50.49 | ts|skrom | I missed the whole point of the movie :( |
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| 21:51.32 | Lunessa | Paul Verhooven picked up on a sub-theme in the book and wanted to make a propaganda film out of it. |
| 21:51.59 | Lunessa | The book is a coming of age story, set against an Space Opera war. |
| 21:52.53 | Lunessa | There's also some pretty heavy 1950's era right-wing thinking in the story. |
| 21:53.53 | Lunessa | Lots of "citizenship is earned, not granted" stuff too. Some of the author's feelings come out pretty strongly in the story. I've read the book something like 8 or 9 times. |
| 21:55.12 | foxlit | It's time someone updated the wow tree models |
| 21:55.50 | foxlit | Most of them are disgraceful; antaliasing doesn't help much :/ |
| 21:56.27 | Lunessa | And yet, they're pretty good at a trade-off between looks and polygon count. |
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| 21:58.39 | foxlit | Maybe if your hardware is a few years old |
| 22:00.44 | foxlit | Otherwise, they're way too focused on keeping polygon counts down :) |
| 22:00.46 | Kaso | Starship troopers 2 was hillarious, all the shots of them shoot at the bugs *just* of camera, so they could save on CGI money. |
| 22:05.39 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: got transparency-AA? |
| 22:05.52 | Lunessa | Ok.. I'm off for home. I may or may not be back on IRC tonight. |
| 22:06.00 | Lunessa | ciao tutti |
| 22:06.48 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: got what-the-what? |
| 22:07.33 | Gnarfoz | AA that AA's (wtf) partly-transparent textures - like leaves and fences |
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| 22:13.48 | foxlit | Probably; does wow actually use that? |
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| 22:23.44 | Guillotine | w00t! Got a list of all new functions in the test realm |
| 22:23.52 | Guillotine | all functions for voice chat are already there |
| 22:24.18 | Maldivia | slowpoke :) |
| 22:24.39 | Guillotine | :( |
| 22:24.42 | Guillotine | someone else did it? |
| 22:25.00 | Guillotine | oh well. Now I have the script all written up to do it instantly with every test realm patch |
| 22:25.21 | Maldivia | how are you fetching them ? |
| 22:25.48 | Maldivia | in-game ? or stringing the exe file? |
| 22:26.35 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: it's a 3d driver thingy, wow has no say in it |
| 22:27.09 | tardmrr | hmm |
| 22:27.22 | tardmrr | if I spellsteal lifebloom, does that count as dispelling it? |
| 22:27.40 | Guillotine | Maldivia: added _G to the saved variables list of a file, then parsing through it with an external lua script |
| 22:28.26 | Guillotine | hmm, some of the voice chat GUI is actually in there o.O |
| 22:29.35 | Maldivia | tardmrr: think it's a buff remove, not a dispell - similar to the pvp trinkets, which are removes aswell, and not dispells |
| 22:29.51 | Maldivia | Guillotine: the UI is there, yes |
| 22:29.58 | Maldivia | just run the addon kit |
| 22:30.10 | Guillotine | ah, didn't know it was runnable for the PTR |
| 22:30.17 | Guillotine | well, that could have saved alot of work |
| 22:33.39 | Maldivia | Guillotine: another way, iterate over _G, check if it's a function, tostring it, and look at the pointer, the API methods are all defined before UI methods, so sorting by the ponter will put all the API methods first |
| 22:34.06 | Guillotine | ya, I tried that, but it wouldn't let me perform pairs on _G on the test realm |
| 22:34.51 | Guillotine | how do you use the interface kit on the PTR? |
| 22:35.06 | Maldivia | just run it |
| 22:35.13 | Maldivia | and it extracts for both normal and ptr |
| 22:36.40 | Maldivia | this is working fine for me on PTR: /run for k,v in pairs(_G) do if type(v) == "function" then ChatFrame1:AddMessage(k .. ": " .. tostring(v)) end end |
| 22:37.30 | Guillotine | strange |
| 22:37.31 | Guillotine | wasn't working for me o.O |
| 22:37.52 | Guillotine | still not working |
| 22:37.56 | Maldivia | no addons installed or anything |
| 22:38.00 | Guillotine | nope |
| 22:38.05 | Guillotine | it gives no error, but doesn't print anything |
| 22:38.21 | Guillotine | its actually printing something for you? |
| 22:38.36 | Maldivia | yes, it lists all methods in the global |
| 22:38.53 | Guillotine | strange. mine does nothing |
| 22:38.56 | Maldivia | hmm, try getfenv(0) instead of _G then ? |
| 22:39.21 | Guillotine | already tried it |
| 22:40.11 | Maldivia | copy-pasting the above code doesn't give you any output ? |
| 22:40.19 | Guillotine | I can access individual things (e.g. _G["SendChatMessage"]), but nothing with pairs or ipairs on _G |
| 22:40.20 | Guillotine | nope |
| 22:40.27 | Guillotine | copy+pasted, no output whatsoever |
| 22:41.07 | Maldivia | weird |
| 22:41.39 | Thrae | Guillotine: I think WoW's _G has been retooled to only instantiate the function from its pre-Lua roots when indexed, and pairs only goes by existing keys/values. |
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| 22:42.02 | zenzelezz | Maldivia's code works fine for me on 2.1.3 live |
| 22:42.02 | Guillotine | right |
| 22:42.09 | Guillotine | yes, it works fine for me on live |
| 22:42.11 | Guillotine | but doesn't on PTR |
| 22:42.19 | Guillotine | thats what I'm saying |
| 22:43.02 | Maldivia | works for me here, PTR build 6932 |
| 22:43.32 | Guillotine | strange. worked after deleting WTF/Cache folders |
| 22:43.43 | Maldivia | ahh |
| 22:43.45 | Guillotine | only addon I've had loaded was the blizz one to send input |
| 22:43.54 | Maldivia | you have _G saved from savedvariables!! |
| 22:44.00 | Guillotine | I did |
| 22:44.00 | Maldivia | and functions are cleared |
| 22:44.03 | Guillotine | thats how I exported it |
| 22:44.07 | Guillotine | but I removed it |
| 22:44.10 | Guillotine | and it wasn't there this time |
| 22:46.25 | Guillotine | anybody want to come onto PTR PvE server quickly? (horde side). I want to test something |
| 22:48.02 | Maldivia | us or eu? |
| 22:50.11 | Maldivia | and name? |
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| 22:56.12 | Maldivia | hmm... what are those Commentator methods? |
| 23:02.34 | Maldivia | Guillotine: but anyway, this should hopefully generate a list of all API methods: |
| 23:02.52 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.36 | Guillotine | ya, but then I have to compare it outside of WoW anyway |
| 23:03.52 | Guillotine | *shrug* my script works and it allows me to easily decide to check strings or some such thing against eachother as well |
| 23:12.55 | buu | So.. speaking of wow scripting. |
| 23:12.59 | buu | How do you save stuff? |
| 23:13.04 | buu | Like, between runs of the game. |
| 23:17.42 | Gnarfoz | savedvariables |
| 23:18.41 | Kaso | buu, http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
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| 23:23.59 | Corrodias | i thirst for more t4, but we're just not doing gruul or mag yet |
| 23:24.04 | buu | HHHHHHHHrm. |
| 23:24.13 | buu | Addons can trigger when they're loaded, right? |
| 23:24.15 | Corrodias | we've tried maulgar only a couple of nights; it doesn't have a permanent spot on the calendar week yet |
| 23:26.36 | buu | An addon can /reloadui, right? |
| 23:28.13 | Corrodias | i believe so |
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| 23:30.04 | MentalPower | buu: only with a hardware event |
| 23:30.13 | buu | Damn, really? |
| 23:30.16 | MentalPower | yup |
| 23:30.21 | buu | Well shucks. |
| 23:30.22 | MentalPower | exploit |
| 23:30.25 | buu | =[ |
| 23:30.43 | buu | I just want to write chatbot. |
| 23:30.50 | buu | Actually |
| 23:30.51 | MentalPower | not possible |
| 23:30.54 | buu | I wonder how those spam bots do it |
| 23:31.07 | MentalPower | reading memory locations, major nono |
| 23:31.37 | buu | Shucks. |
| 23:31.47 | MentalPower | like I said, not possible |
| 23:31.50 | buu | Is an irc client for wow really too much to ask? |
| 23:31.57 | MentalPower | it is |
| 23:32.00 | buu | Guess so. |
| 23:32.04 | amro | buu: just tab out :) |
| 23:32.10 | buu | amro: No, other way around. |
| 23:32.11 | MentalPower | what amro said :) |
| 23:32.30 | buu | I want to be in IRC and talk to wow servers. |
| 23:32.31 | bleeter | but yeah, never happen |
| 23:32.41 | MentalPower | buu: even bigger nono |
| 23:32.45 | amro | yeah |
| 23:32.46 | buu | Bleh. |
| 23:33.02 | buu | Allow only from a registered account and all that jazz. |
| 23:33.24 | amro | or you could just tab out :) |
| 23:34.06 | buu | What? |
| 23:34.15 | buu | How does.. tabbing.. out.. from irc.. get me a wow client? |
| 23:34.23 | bleeter | what *would* be nice, though I haven't looked at all yet, is to reverse engineer whatever VoIP they're using in 2.2, so that a client can be written so one can chat to your guild without having to load the game |
| 23:34.35 | buu | There's a voip in 2.2?! |
| 23:34.39 | bleeter | eg, be able to talk to your guild via your PDA/IM program etc. |
| 23:34.41 | Corrodias | yes, but it's not complete yet |
| 23:34.49 | amro | buu: you tab out to a wow instance |
| 23:35.09 | buu | amro: And so if I can't install wow..? |
| 23:35.15 | Corrodias | vent will probably still be useful to guilds for arranged runs and multiple channels, but in-game will solve the problem of pugs having no voice chat. yet, i don't know the details yet. |
| 23:35.34 | bleeter | vent is bloatware PoS |
| 23:36.21 | amro | buu: then you can't play, either. so you're just looking to talk to people that are ingame? |
| 23:36.30 | Corrodias | don't care. it works, so it's not shit. |
| 23:37.19 | bleeter | 'The Final Solution' was working, doesn't mean it wasn't shit |
| 23:37.24 | amro | I like how the linux version of vent is 'in development' |
| 23:37.25 | buu | amro: Yes! |
| 23:37.47 | bleeter | amro: probably waiting for ALSA API to settle down and not change every 6 months |
| 23:41.00 | Guillotine | hey guys, on the PTR, open up the sound options and run this macro: |
| 23:41.10 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.19 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.28 | Guillotine | you can access all the voice stuff XD |
| 23:41.33 | Guillotine | but still can't communicate with other people |
| 23:41.36 | Guillotine | but you can test recording |
| 23:41.49 | bleeter | hehe |
| 23:42.10 | bleeter | I just hope when it goes final, that I can select different sound devices for game output and voice input |
| 23:42.18 | bleeter | voice i/o |
| 23:42.22 | bleeter | ttfn, gtg |
| 23:42.32 | amro | any MacBook Pro owners in here? |
| 23:43.01 | Guillotine | bleeter: you can |
| 23:43.03 | Guillotine | right now |
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| 23:48.56 | Guillotine | interesting |
| 23:49.05 | Guillotine | it looks like there may be custom voice channels implemented now |
| 23:49.08 | Guillotine | rather than later like they said |
| 23:49.16 | Guillotine | GetChannelDisplayInfo(11) |
