| 00:00.04 | foxlit | What's funny is that sub seems significantly faster if things don't match |
| 00:00.20 | Cide | not very surprising |
| 00:00.23 | foxlit | 0.047 vs 0.172 on 100k iterations |
| 00:00.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=chatzill@129.7.91.58) |
| 00:00.36 | Shirik | because it's easier to do |
| 00:00.37 | Cide | it doesn't have to do any string magic except check if the string matches |
| 00:00.47 | Shirik | since Lua interns the strings, it's an easy test |
| 00:00.58 | Cide | if it does match, you have to do the same search as before and create several new string objects (usually) |
| 00:01.00 | Shirik | pattern matching, though, does a big mess |
| 00:01.06 | foxlit | Yeah, but you'd imagine "^You gain (.+)%.$" could fail just as soon as the string doesn't start with You gain |
| 00:01.16 | foxlit | Which is essentially doing the same compare |
| 00:01.19 | Shirik | It does, but it has to do a lot more than check a reference |
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| 00:02.19 | foxlit | So it has to process the expression somehow - wonder if it caches that. |
| 00:02.23 | Shirik | And even better yet, if string.sub were memoized |
| 00:03.37 | foxlit | So basically advice for people parsing strings is "Avoid regular expressions if you can help it"? |
| 00:03.42 | Corrodias | i wonder why my SCTD is spamming me |
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| 00:07.17 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 00:07.52 | Shirik | is it about pilots? |
| 00:08.15 | Shirik | <3 |
| 00:10.23 | Shirik | Lunessa killed my internet :( |
| 00:10.46 | Lunessa | I kill everything. It might have loot and be worth XP. |
| 00:10.54 | art3mis | http://www.xkcd.com/295/ |
| 00:11.44 | art3mis | oh appearantly im an ass for asking people in my guild and in the game who ive never met and dont care about, who've had relatives or friends die "did they drop any good loot" |
| 00:12.07 | art3mis | actually in my wifes words "you're not human are you?" |
| 00:12.39 | Lunessa | You're not. It's ok. They aren't either. |
| 00:12.52 | art3mis | oh thats true! |
| 00:12.59 | art3mis | they're just meaningless pixels |
| 00:13.10 | art3mis | speaking of which my pixels can beat up your pixels |
| 00:14.52 | Shirik | if someone in my guild said that I'd kick them in a heartbeat |
| 00:15.14 | Shirik | I don't care if you don't know someone you could at least show a little decency |
| 00:15.15 | art3mis | tats because you have feeewings |
| 00:15.34 | art3mis | ive never had a single person ive known die |
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| 00:15.50 | art3mis | so im an insenetive bastard i guess |
| 00:17.31 | Lunessa | Apparently you all made your saving rolls. |
| 00:17.47 | art3mis | woo! |
| 00:18.06 | art3mis | what were you casting sarcasm for? |
| 00:18.31 | art3mis | and did you remember to memorize it last night? |
| 00:18.56 | Lunessa | I usually fill multiple slots with different ranks of Sarcasm. |
| 00:21.04 | Shirik | Lunessa is the moonkin of sarcasm |
| 00:21.04 | Shirik | just replace moonfire |
| 00:21.16 | Lunessa | sarcasm spam! |
| 00:21.28 | foxlit | Nobody spams moonfire :( |
| 00:21.41 | Gnarfoz | art3mis: did you answer "no, dwarf"? ^^ |
| 00:21.48 | foxlit | Unless there's some serious shadowpriest love going around. |
| 00:21.50 | Shirik | My guild and I were discussing what would happen if the global cooldown didn't exist |
| 00:21.58 | Shirik | we determined the only real problem would be moonfire |
| 00:22.12 | foxlit | Initial damage isn't that evil. |
| 00:22.20 | Shirik | it is if you can do it 200 times in a second |
| 00:22.30 | foxlit | You can't do it 200 times a second :) |
| 00:22.34 | foxlit | even without gcd |
| 00:22.57 | foxlit | (implies a cast ever 5ms, which is... not possible) |
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| 00:23.39 | TS|Skrom | I just got a game to load that I thought was forever lost to me |
| 00:23.42 | foxlit | What about warlocks applying a calvillion dots on you in 0.3s and then dodging out of LoS? |
| 00:23.52 | TS|Skrom | Much love for Windows Virtual Machine, Windows 98 and Moslo.com |
| 00:24.02 | Shirik | yeah but the dots still wouldn't kill you instantly |
| 00:24.11 | Shirik | and they do that anyway |
| 00:24.17 | foxlit | Well, no |
| 00:24.29 | foxlit | They do have to stay in LoS for a reasonable amount of time to land all of them |
| 00:24.41 | foxlit | Whereas if you could just apply all 5 at once, things would get a bit sad. |
| 00:25.29 | Shirik | but when it comes down to it |
| 00:25.42 | Shirik | is moonfire really the only instant cast, no cooldown DD spell? |
| 00:27.05 | foxlit | Shamans probably have... something |
| 00:27.16 | Shirik | I know nothing about shamans |
| 00:27.27 | weab | well they have things called totems |
| 00:27.40 | Shirik | yeah but they still could only have 4 up at a time |
| 00:27.43 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:27.46 | [dRaCo] | nope, shamans just got shocks... those are on a 6/5 sec cd |
| 00:27.46 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:28.14 | Lunessa | Shaman are fun. |
| 00:28.28 | Shirik | hm |
| 00:28.28 | [dRaCo] | yeah. but that's something else. |
| 00:28.31 | Shirik | maybe arcane blast? |
| 00:28.35 | Shirik | but that would eat up mana like crazy |
| 00:28.48 | foxlit | AB isn't instant |
| 00:28.51 | foxlit | Ice lance, though |
| 00:29.45 | weab | i actually hadn't read anything in the conversation. i was taking your "i know nothing about shamans" out of context on purpose. |
| 00:29.51 | Gnarfoz | can ice lance proc frostbite? (and is frostbite enough of "frozen" to make ice lance do the amplified damage thing?) |
| 00:29.59 | [dRaCo] | Gnarfoz: no |
| 00:30.10 | [dRaCo] | and yes. |
| 00:30.20 | foxlit | Not a chill effect |
| 00:30.32 | foxlit | AE |
| 00:30.44 | foxlit | prohibitive manacost, but probably just as evil as MF |
| 00:31.05 | [dRaCo] | no frostbite proc on ice lance, but frostbite is "frozen" |
| 00:31.42 | Lunessa | I love Ice Lance just for the sound effect. |
| 00:32.35 | Gnarfoz | i love it because I can confuse mages even more by using CloS just to get unfrozen so it won't to so much damage ;D |
| 00:32.46 | [dRaCo] | It's the sound of an ice mage pwning you :( |
| 00:32.59 | foxlit | Hah, shift out of roots |
| 00:33.57 | foxlit | Then we play the "how many novas have you got?" game where the mage, the mage's elemental, and their respective grandmothers reapply the freeze effect, which does not suffer from DR because I shifted out of it. |
| 00:34.32 | Lunessa | CloS? |
| 00:34.53 | foxlit | ClockOfSkill |
| 00:35.09 | foxlit | (semi-intentional) |
| 00:35.14 | Lunessa | Ah. |
| 00:35.19 | [dRaCo] | I once met those 4 ice mages and 1 shadow priest in the arena. It *did* hurt, believe me. |
| 00:35.54 | foxlit | You just needed four warlocks and a paladin |
| 00:36.26 | [dRaCo] | yeah. sucks I'm a shaman. |
| 00:38.57 | Lunessa | Disc/Holy preist (70), Demonology Warlock (70), odd-tri-spec mage (70), enhancment shaman (70) - and I |
| 00:38.58 | foxlit | Still doable, though. Stacks of a particular class are deadly if they know what they're doing (heck, 5 moonkins and the sheer number of treants / moonfire casts), but they can be countered by most balanced groups with a bit of strategy. |
| 00:39.04 | Lunessa | never pvp. |
| 00:39.18 | foxlit | Arenas do allow people to jump you before you decide on a plan, though |
| 00:39.59 | foxlit | Which is of debatable value - would you rather know what you're fighting before it shows up to moonfire your face, or would you rather surprise the opposing team? |
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| 00:41.05 | [dRaCo] | we tried, believe me... but you can't move at all with 16 frost novas all over the place. |
| 00:41.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | um |
| 00:41.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o i got two bags of gems from gheze today |
| 00:42.05 | foxlit | True, true. Most of it can be mitigated by spreading far enough apart, but that just leaves you with 4/5 1v1 fights or some focus fire |
| 00:42.23 | [dRaCo] | there were 3 green gems in my bag today :/ |
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| 00:45.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | gems are going for insane amounts all of a sudden |
| 00:45.31 | [dRaCo] | I'm revered! And three gems. Green ones. |
| 00:45.34 | [dRaCo] | Sucks. |
| 00:45.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | check back at him |
| 00:45.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | and see if he has the quest again :O |
| 00:45.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i did O_o |
| 00:46.47 | [dRaCo] | omw |
| 00:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did the quest, logged out, hooked up some speakers upstairs, and came back down and he had it again |
| 00:48.26 | [dRaCo] | guess I'm gonna try that. |
| 00:48.44 | [dRaCo] | except for that speakers thing, that is |
| 00:50.52 | Shirik | I like this |
| 00:51.09 | Shirik | I'm shopping for a new hosting company and I see a company's features list |
| 00:51.19 | Shirik | One of the items says "Javascript/DHTML" |
| 00:51.27 | Shirik | That made me close the window |
| 00:51.57 | Lunessa | ... wait, they're claiming they support Javascript/DHTML as part of their offering? |
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| 00:52.04 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:52.14 | Lunessa | *headdesk* |
| 00:52.49 | Legorol | omg, i just noticed on Blizzcon schedule: there'll be an actual UI & Mods panel :O |
| 00:53.01 | Legorol | i'm even more jealous now |
| 00:53.09 | MentalPower|Work | So, I was reading this page http://www.wowwiki.com/Memory_Usage and theres no mention of how much memory strings occupy |
| 00:53.16 | MentalPower|Work | Legorol: link? |
| 00:53.19 | mikma | go and torture slouken dead |
| 00:53.19 | Legorol | they don't occupy much |
| 00:53.21 | Shirik | Legorol: Do you have to remind me ?! |
| 00:53.23 | Legorol | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/schedule.shtml |
| 00:53.27 | Legorol | Shirik: sadly yes |
| 00:53.32 | [dRaCo] | Mr_Rabies2: no more gems for me. |
| 00:53.39 | Legorol | MentalPower|Work: all strings are stored in a global table, together with their hash values |
| 00:53.53 | Legorol | so the storage is not much more than the length of the stringth |
| 00:53.59 | Legorol | *string |
| 00:54.06 | Legorol | and the same string never gets stored twice |
| 00:54.08 | MentalPower|Work | so 80bytes + length of string? |
| 00:54.36 | Legorol | i'd think so, roughly |
| 00:54.41 | Legorol | i don't know how the global string table looks like |
| 00:54.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | who here was at blizzcon 05? |
| 00:54.46 | MentalPower|Work | since 80bytes is what a table's hash entry takes |
| 00:55.01 | Legorol | i don't know how big string hashes are |
| 00:55.10 | Legorol | need to ask Iriel for that kinda thing |
| 00:55.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone? no one? :[ |
| 00:57.30 | Legorol | *drool*: |
| 00:57.30 | Legorol | World of Warcraft UI and ModsFriday 5:30pm, Room 204 |
| 00:57.31 | Legorol | Learn about what makes the World of Warcraft UI such a flexible and innovative part of the game experience in this panel with the World of Warcraft Game Systems Team. |
| 00:57.31 | Legorol | Panel Includes: |
| 00:57.31 | Legorol | Sam Lantiga, Lead Software Engineer, Game Systems |
| 00:57.32 | Legorol | Members of the World of Warcraft Game Systems Team |
| 00:58.25 | Kyahx | hmm, what would be the best way to extact multiple hyperlinks from one string |
| 00:59.03 | Shirik | Anyone want to look at one of these hosts and mention if they see anything to worry about? |
| 00:59.27 | Shirik | Kyahx: A pattern |
| 00:59.36 | Shirik | I'm going to /ignore Legorol in a second |
| 00:59.56 | Kyahx | Well, I know how to extract a single link from a string with a pattern yea, how do I get multiple (if any) from the same string? |
| 01:00.24 | Shirik | the same pattern, really |
| 01:00.39 | Shirik | just don't use string.match |
| 01:00.59 | Kyahx | oh? |
| 01:01.15 | Cide | string.gmatch |
| 01:01.31 | Shirik | oh, I did string.gsub |
| 01:01.34 | Shirik | but yeah, same idea |
| 01:01.47 | Cide | ya |
| 01:02.36 | Shirik | >>> string.gsub("foo bar baz", "%w+", print) |
| 01:02.36 | Cide | Shirik: "foo", "bar", "baz" |
| 01:04.20 | Cide | >>> for value in string.gmatch("foo bar baz", "%w+") do print(value); end |
| 01:04.21 | Cide | Cide: "foo", "bar", "baz" |
| 01:05.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | Legorol |
| 01:05.24 | Cide | yours is better though, since it doesn't create a function closure |
| 01:05.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | are you going to blizzcon? |
| 01:05.53 | Shirik | true, but yours is better for things that are more complicated than just "print" |
| 01:06.56 | Kyahx | thanks :) |
| 01:06.58 | Shirik | how much bandwidth is 5TB/mo |
| 01:07.05 | Cide | a lot |
| 01:07.10 | Shirik | think it's enough for a semi-well-traveled site? |
| 01:07.14 | Cide | um |
| 01:07.21 | Shirik | I should just go look at the logs |
| 01:07.24 | Cide | ctprofiles had like a million registrered users |
| 01:07.27 | Shirik | even if they'll take forever to get to >.> |
| 01:07.45 | Shirik | and still did ok? |
| 01:07.47 | Cide | and all the icons it used to display gear/equipment/talents etc were 64x64 |
| 01:07.53 | Cide | uncompressed basically |
| 01:08.06 | Cide | it was very well-traveled and we used like 1.5 TB/mo |
| 01:08.20 | Shirik | that makes me feel better then |
| 01:08.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
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| 01:08.50 | Cide | it depends on what kind of site you have obviously, but 5 TB is definitely enough regardless |
| 01:08.50 | Shirik | If you're not busy: http://www.webhostingbuzz.com/website-hosting.shtml?host_shared-hosting |
| 01:08.54 | Cide | 1 TB is likely enough |
| 01:08.59 | Shirik | "Special offer" see any reason not to get it? |
| 01:09.00 | Lunessa | Wow, Cide. That's a lot of bandwidth for people checking gear. |
| 01:09.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone needs to go to blizzcon and ask if blizzard can ace the default ui at the UI and mods panel |
| 01:09.20 | Cide | Lunessa: it wasn't just peopel checking gear |
| 01:09.46 | Cide | people viewing other people's profiles, talent specs, searching the item database and so on |
| 01:10.21 | Lunessa | I know, I was going for sound-byte. I'm just shocked at how much bandwidth was needed for a (very cool) fan site. |
| 01:10.23 | JoshBorke | no one uses ctprofiles ;-P |
| 01:10.36 | Cide | JoshBorke: very true :) |
| 01:10.49 | JoshBorke | it's all a load of malarky :-P |
| 01:11.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one uses it NOW because i don't even think they can |
| 01:12.37 | Cide | Lunessa: yeah, it was slightly more than it could've been because of somewhat unoptimized images |
| 01:13.24 | Lunessa | Still, impressive under-taking. I hope, at the very least, that it was a) fun, b) not too painful on the ol' pocketbook. |
| 01:13.38 | Cide | it was fun until 2.0 |
| 01:13.39 | Shirik | oh god |
| 01:13.44 | Shirik | we only use 5GB of bandwidth this month |
| 01:13.46 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:13.52 | Cide | told you :) |
| 01:13.58 | Cide | and was actually fairly lucrative until 2.0 as well |
| 01:14.01 | Shirik | Though we're planning to implement a video gallery which will crank that up a bit |
| 01:14.07 | Shirik | but still shouldn't be a problem |
| 01:14.08 | Shirik | thanks :) |
| 01:15.37 | Shirik | hm, one of our raid leaders just gave me this awesome idea |
| 01:15.48 | Cide | "go kill yourself"? |
| 01:16.01 | Shirik | he was making fun of me so I say to him "Hey, you never know what gets coded into RDX secretly, you better stay on my good side" |
| 01:16.02 | Cide | oh wait, that was my raid leader :( |
| 01:16.14 | Shirik | He responds "Hey, no auto zerk stance during Gruul, not funny" |
| 01:16.31 | Cide | I harass my guild mates with versions of my mods |
| 01:16.58 | Cide | but /ratrevor was the best thing ever invented, the end |
| 01:17.10 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:17.30 | Cide | it played magical trevor (1) to everyone in the raid |
| 01:17.43 | Cide | complete with a picture of trevor dancing on the screen with the music |
| 01:17.44 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:17.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | cosmos had some weird thing for april fools a couple years back |
| 01:18.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it was the toasty guy from mortal kombat |
| 01:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | occasionally on kills he'd pop up or something if i recall |
| 01:18.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't really remember though |
| 01:19.32 | Shirik | that would make a great easter egg |
| 01:19.40 | Shirik | I'm gonna have to include some in conspiracy |
| 01:19.47 | Shirik | time to start thinking them up |
| 01:20.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | make it occasionally yell about shirikgasms when you login |
| 01:20.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear the userbase loves that |
| 01:20.22 | Shirik | oh hell no |
| 01:20.26 | Shirik | That's not even funny |
| 01:23.20 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712402058&sid=1 || http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712092544&sid=1 :cries: |
| 01:25.40 | Gngsk | huntards ftw! |
| 01:27.17 | Shirik | Thrae: Ping |
| 01:27.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@r54h77.res.gatech.edu) |
| 01:27.39 | Shirik | JoshBorke: Tell your peers to do that again |
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| 01:27.52 | JoshBorke | i hate you |
| 01:28.06 | Shirik | :D |
| 01:28.43 | JoshBorke | ~lart Shirk |
| 01:28.43 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Shirk, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 01:29.13 | Shirik | ~slap purl |
| 01:29.13 | purl | ACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 01:29.27 | Shirik | Lunessa: If it makes you feel better |
| 01:29.32 | Shirik | I have no castsequences, at all |
| 01:29.53 | Lunessa | No, those two posts are "how can I make buttons that play for me" |
| 01:30.12 | Gngsk | yep |
| 01:31.36 | Lunessa | I need the "Great Spork or Moron Stabbing" |
| 01:32.18 | Legorol | does anyone know if Riding Crop stacks with Skybreaker Whip? |
| 01:32.35 | JoshBorke | doubtful |
| 01:33.29 | [dRaCo] | they broke my server :/ |
| 01:33.45 | [dRaCo] | oh, wait. |
| 01:33.50 | [dRaCo] | maintenance -.-" |
| 01:33.51 | Lunessa | +10% mount speed is max. |
| 01:34.24 | Legorol | *cry* |
| 01:34.29 | Legorol | all that hard work for the Whip |
| 01:36.29 | Cairenn | art3mis: no zoodles, sorry |
| 01:36.45 | Shirik | hai Cairenn |
| 01:36.50 | Cairenn | hi Shirik :) |
| 01:37.21 | Cairenn | Kaydeethree: ping? |
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| 01:38.38 | Cairenn | gd it! |
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| 01:41.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | cair, are you going to blizzcon :O |
| 01:41.32 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 01:41.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to find someone to ask slouken if they can ace the default ui at the UI and mods panel |
| 01:41.46 | Cairenn | fly out tomorrow |
| 01:41.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | just to see how he responds |
| 01:42.01 | dylanm | Mr_Rabies: For laughs? |
| 01:42.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course |
| 01:42.26 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies: grrrr auto-respond crap! |
| 01:42.26 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:42.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ;] |
| 01:43.01 | JoshBorke | clad will do it |
| 01:43.16 | Cairenn | oh, I'm TOO sure! |
| 01:44.21 | Shirik | hi again Cairenn |
| 01:44.31 | Cairenn | hi again Shirik |
| 01:44.39 | Shirik | and early bye for tomorrow since I won't be on tomorrow morning |
| 01:44.42 | JoshBorke | for equal opportunity we should also request it be dongle'd and joker'd |
| 01:44.52 | JoshBorke | and give the user the option to choose |
| 01:45.10 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: Please, record that or something |
| 01:45.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not going |
| 01:45.22 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 01:45.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if i was i would |
| 01:46.11 | Shirik | boo |
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| 01:47.01 | Wobwork | win |
| 01:47.05 | Wobwork | "Kevin Zuccato, head of the Australian High Tech Crime Centre in Canberra, says terrorists can gain training in games such as World of Warcraft in a simulated environment, using weapons that are identical to real-world armaments." |
| 01:47.17 | Wobwork | WTB real life Gorehowl |
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| 01:47.53 | [dRaCo] | yay! |
| 01:51.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 01:51.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | Wobwork |
| 01:51.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously |
| 01:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | what the hell |
| 01:51.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the most paranoid thing ever |
| 01:51.40 | Wobwork | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22163811-2,00.html |
| 01:51.51 | Lunessa | Kevin Zuccato - probably didn't say World of Warcraft. |
| 01:51.52 | mikma | Wobwork: lol yeah i train my mind blast IRL every day |
| 01:52.23 | JoshBorke | cogwheel: how's that different from normal? |
| 01:52.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know a guy that made a recreation of 9/11 in second life :x |
| 01:52.44 | Wobwork | mikma: "I can kill you with my mind..." |
| 01:52.45 | cogwheel | I like randomly stating things |
| 01:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | the all too famous plastic duck if you keep up with second life drama |
| 01:53.07 | mikma | Wobwork: oh yeah and fireballs too. those i keep practicing |
| 01:53.17 | *** part/#wowi-lounge TS|Skrom (n=TS|Skrom@adsl-70-240-4-157.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) |
| 01:57.28 | d2x2 | im looking for info about how to place a marker (like a party member) on the world map, someone knows a site about it? |
| 01:58.18 | [dRaCo] | check wowwiki, they got the whole api there... might look at cartographer for examples |
| 01:58.36 | Nom- | lol |
| 01:58.39 | Nom- | yay for rumour mongering |
| 01:58.43 | d2x2 | hm, i've checked wowwiki already, maybe i've overseen something |
| 01:58.49 | Nom- | "Wrath of the Lich King" |
| 01:59.26 | d2x2 | i dont know right now on how to talk to the world map in any way^^ |
| 01:59.38 | [dRaCo] | Nom-: the german usk tested a game addon called "World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King" |
| 02:00.27 | JoshBorke | d2x2: you use teh world map frame to create textures which you then place somewhere on the map |
| 02:00.43 | Nom- | [dRaCo]: Hence the rumour mongering... |
| 02:00.57 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
| 02:01.05 | [dRaCo] | Nom-: http://usk.de/65_Aktuell_geprueft.htm |
| 02:01.07 | d2x2 | k, im relativle new, do you know its name >.< ? (thx) |
| 02:01.23 | [dRaCo] | german page, but the name is on that list |
| 02:01.27 | JoshBorke | no, but using devtools you can find it |
| 02:01.30 | JoshBorke | ~devtools |
| 02:01.31 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 02:01.40 | JoshBorke | you'll need teh /dtframestack command (or something like that) |
| 02:01.47 | Nom- | Vivendi Games |
| 02:01.48 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 02:01.51 | d2x2 | thx |
| 02:01.56 | Nom- | Seems pretty early though |
| 02:02.04 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
| 02:02.11 | [dRaCo] | it says CG Demo, though |
| 02:02.13 | Nom- | You'd think that any kind of WoW expansion would be another year off |
| 02:02.23 | [dRaCo] | so prolly early beta or alpha |
| 02:02.24 | Nom- | It says GC-Demo :P |
| 02:02.32 | [dRaCo] | uhm. |
| 02:02.41 | Nom- | World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King (GC-Demo) |
| 02:02.52 | [dRaCo] | yeah... |
| 02:03.06 | [dRaCo] | w/e GC is supposed to mean |
| 02:03.32 | mikma | anyone know pictures of the chinese/something version of undeads? |
| 02:03.47 | [dRaCo] | mmo-champion had some a while ago |
| 02:03.54 | Wobwork | I saw them |
| 02:03.59 | Wobwork | can't recall where |
| 02:04.59 | Nom- | The term GC is used as a shorthand for graphics context. |
| 02:05.05 | Nom- | So I suspect |
| 02:05.12 | Nom- | They took a whole heap of concept art to them |
| 02:05.30 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
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| 02:06.18 | Nom- | Still interesting |
| 02:06.37 | Nom- | There's a rumour indicating they might be bringing in 1 to 2 new classes |
| 02:07.19 | [dRaCo] | there's a rumor about hero classes |
| 02:07.21 | [dRaCo] | once again |
| 02:07.24 | Wobwork | new classes eh? |
| 02:07.28 | Nom- | Death Knight |
| 02:07.29 | Wobwork | that will be interesting |
| 02:07.38 | Wobwork | Death... Knight? |
| 02:07.46 | Nom- | and/or Necromancer |
| 02:07.58 | Wobwork | ... |
| 02:08.09 | Wobwork | They don't sound like very solid rumours =P |
| 02:08.09 | Kyahx | I don't honlestly see new classes =/ |
| 02:08.23 | [dRaCo] | mikma: http://bbs.wowchina.com/wow/download.aspx?type=1&file=20070622/2007062220065785492365_1024_768_11.jpg |
| 02:08.25 | Wobwork | It would be really quite hard to balance new classes |
| 02:08.36 | Legorol | not really |
| 02:08.43 | Legorol | wow class balancing is using rock/paper/scissors |
| 02:08.52 | Legorol | easier to balance than everything vs. everything |
| 02:09.00 | Nom- | There's nothing stopping them from adding a new class |
| 02:09.18 | Nom- | They're getting good at balancing content imho |
| 02:09.24 | mikma | thanks [dRaCo] :) |
| 02:09.31 | [dRaCo] | he. |
| 02:09.45 | [dRaCo] | gragorian posted the exact same link |
| 02:10.09 | mikma | yeah, that's why i thanked both of you :) |
| 02:11.00 | mikma | i wonder why they didn't change the, to something else while at it |
| 02:11.50 | JoshBorke | double wide is really nice |
| 02:12.04 | JoshBorke | i had no idea i'd like it so much |
| 02:12.35 | mikma | i did use it some time, but then i realized how much space it takes from my screen with LH so i had to ditch it :( |
| 02:12.48 | Kyahx | get a 16:10 moniter noob |
| 02:12.50 | JoshBorke | not like you keep it open all the time |
| 02:13.22 | mikma | JoshBorke: but when i do i still like to see what's happening :) |
| 02:13.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Nom-> There's nothing stopping them from adding a new class |
| 02:14.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | there aren't any roles that aren't already filled |
| 02:14.17 | Kyahx | yay more crappy hybrid classes? |
| 02:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's not a single class i can think of that's not already filled |
| 02:14.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | necromancer = warlock |
| 02:14.55 | Kyahx | bard! :P |
| 02:15.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | bard's a support class |
| 02:15.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | paladins and shamans are major supporters |
| 02:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's only 2 pure classes really, rogue and mage |
| 02:15.37 | Nom- | I could see a plate wearing offensive class being brought in |
| 02:15.40 | Nom- | ie. Death Knight |
| 02:15.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean a warrior? |
| 02:15.46 | mikma | Mr_Rabies2: well some sort of WWF character would be nice |
| 02:15.54 | Nom- | Warrior aren't actually offensive |
| 02:15.56 | cogwheel | I want medics for gnomes, damnit! |
| 02:15.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're both |
| 02:15.58 | Nom- | Although some of them can be :P |
| 02:16.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're hybrid offense/defense |
| 02:16.06 | Nom- | Yeah, but what I mean |
| 02:16.10 | mikma | it would run around in clothes made from leafs and decline to kill monsters |
| 02:16.17 | Nom- | Picture a new class that doesn't have a protection tree |
| 02:16.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean a rogue in plate? |
| 02:16.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no reason to have those classes |
| 02:16.43 | mikma | mage in plate would be fun |
| 02:16.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | their roles are covered by dps warriors |
| 02:16.47 | Nom- | Pretty much, except perhaps limited to 1h or 2h like a pally |
| 02:16.51 | cogwheel | Oooh... I know... Both factions get Goblins! |
| 02:16.56 | Kyahx | =D |
| 02:17.02 | Nom- | There would be if they brought unique buffs and abilities, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 02:17.11 | mikma | cogwheel: suicidebomber-goblins! like in WC2/3 |
| 02:17.21 | mikma | "we've got explosives!" "booooom!" |
| 02:17.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom, they'd just be variations on warrior and class buffs and abilities |
| 02:17.51 | Nom- | That's the thing...you don't necessarily take a paladin over a priest due to gear |
| 02:17.56 | mikma | btw, did someone see the post in.. hmm us wow forums where some dude was telling he's not killing animals in wow? :D |
| 02:18.00 | Nom- | You take them due to the unique abilities they bring (ie. Blessings) |
| 02:18.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's not a single role that's not already been filled |
| 02:18.24 | Kyahx | your just not being creative :P |
| 02:18.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure i am, but it would just be a minor variation on an already existing class |
| 02:18.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | the classes are vastly different from one another for good reason |
| 02:19.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | bringing in any more would bring in one way too close to something else |
| 02:19.31 | Kyahx | There's always the remote chance that you haven't thought of everything :P |
| 02:19.49 | Wobwork | No way! |
| 02:19.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | blizzard's said the same thing |
| 02:20.06 | Kyahx | link? |
| 02:20.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're reasonably happy with existing classes and feel like bringing in more would just be a minor variation on an existing one which is a waste of time |
| 02:20.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://blue.cardplace.com/ |
| 02:21.05 | Shirik | omg fresh prince of belair |
| 02:21.10 | Shirik | haven't seen this in forever |
| 02:23.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't find the quote but i definitely remember seeing it |
| 02:24.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | they always could add one |
| 02:24.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if they do it's probably going to be another hybrid |
| 02:24.40 | buu | Pesky hybrids. |
| 02:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | like a shaman or a paladin |
| 02:25.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | not like a warrior, hunter, warlock, or priest in terms of hybridization |
| 02:25.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | a mix of healing, dps, and tanking |
| 02:25.26 | Kyahx | so another druid? |
| 02:25.30 | buu | Yup. |
| 02:25.38 | Kyahx | Gnome druids :P |
| 02:25.49 | buu | Undead druids ^_^ |
| 02:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids aren't really hybrids :o |
| 02:25.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 02:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | they are |
| 02:25.56 | Kyahx | ?! |
| 02:25.56 | buu | I wish they'd bring out content that didn't require perfect class mixes. |
| 02:26.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they're not in the same way a pally or shammy is |
| 02:26.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're specialists based around spec and gear |
| 02:26.13 | Kyahx | no, they're actually good |
| 02:26.14 | buu | Druids don't "hybrid" at the same time. |
| 02:26.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can't play them like a shaman or paladin and use a mixture of different roles at once |
| 02:26.26 | Kyahx | Druids are transformers! |
| 02:26.47 | Kyahx | or convertibles? |
| 02:26.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | you tank, dps or heal, you don't mix between them for 99% of the time |
| 02:27.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're much more dedicated to whatever role your gear's made for than the other hybrids |
| 02:27.38 | [dRaCo] | you can change between dps and tank quite ok-ish |
| 02:27.48 | mikma | well they should make gnomehealers |
| 02:27.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | not at all |
| 02:27.49 | buu | Eh. |
| 02:27.51 | mikma | and taurenrogues |
| 02:27.56 | buu | They should get rid of gnomes. |
| 02:28.03 | buu | For being excessively silly. |
| 02:28.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | [dRaCo], that's very wrong :O |
| 02:28.12 | Kyahx | I love gnomes |
| 02:28.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're in dps gear you're gonna get one shotted by most anything of note |
| 02:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're in tanking gear you're not doing any dps regardless of form |
| 02:28.35 | Wobwork | I'd love a tauren rogue |
| 02:28.38 | Wobwork | SNEAKSNEAKSNEAK |
| 02:28.54 | [dRaCo] | yeah... but you dps and tank with the same spec, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 02:29.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | not the same gear though |
| 02:29.10 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 02:29.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you can't swap gear while fighting |
| 02:29.19 | [dRaCo] | but enhancement heals suck, too. |
| 02:29.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | not as much as feral heals :[ |
| 02:29.33 | buu | Sure, but they suck less than, yeah |
| 02:29.39 | buu | They suck less than mage heals. |
| 02:29.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can heal 4 times in my gear |
| 02:29.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's 12000 hp |
| 02:29.57 | [dRaCo] | mages got bandages! |
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| 02:30.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | and takes between 12 and 14 seconds to do |
| 02:30.27 | Shirik | that's no match for my 8k greater heal |
| 02:30.41 | Shirik | and my character = suck |
| 02:31.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah my heals hit for 2600 |
| 02:31.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 02:31.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | my healing touch |
| 02:31.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | my 3.5 sec cast (3 talented) |
| 02:31.41 | Shirik | and I can do quite a few more than 4 |
| 02:31.44 | [dRaCo] | my enhancement shaman heals for ~2k in melee gear. sucks. |
| 02:32.02 | Nom- | http://epicmug.ytmnd.com/ |
| 02:32.06 | Nom- | lol a blue has that in their sig :P |
| 02:32.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | vaneras :O |
| 02:32.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | eublue |
| 02:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think |
| 02:32.28 | Nom- | ya |
| 02:32.41 | Shirik | #char US Drenden Kimina |
| 02:32.46 | Shirik | bleh |
| 02:32.46 | Shirik | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Drenden&n=Kimina |
| 02:32.46 | Shirik | rawr! |
| 02:32.57 | Shirik | I logged out unbuffed :( |
| 02:32.59 | Nom- | ! nor # |
| 02:33.08 | Nom- | !char US Drenden Kimina |
| 02:33.10 | Shirik | didn't it used to be #? |
| 02:33.12 | ThraeBot | Nom-: Kimina, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (23/38/0). 4951 HP; 8055 Mana; 288 mana regen; 79 mp5; 75 spell crit; 195 +spell dmg; 731 +heal; 4.9% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bt59e ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/375sed ]] |
| 02:33.14 | Nom- | no |
| 02:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | he actually made it, Nom- |
| 02:33.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | the ytmnd |
| 02:33.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 02:33.24 | [dRaCo] | shirik: mushroom mushroom mushroom. |
| 02:33.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | not the image or music, obviously |
| 02:33.29 | Shirik | bah.... |
| 02:33.36 | Shirik | my +heal is so much better than that |
| 02:33.40 | Shirik | and my mp/5 |
| 02:33.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | !char US Llane Raybeez |
| 02:33.46 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Raybeez, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/46/14). 9724 HP; 4730 Mana; 101 mana regen; 4907 Armour; 98 Melee DPS; 7.56% melee crit; 20 melee hit; 171 defense; 14.02% dodge; 5 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28qy6r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uxaaz ]] |
| 02:33.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder what gear i was in |
| 02:33.49 | Nom- | pretty low on the +healing |
| 02:33.50 | Lunessa | I also play an enhancement shaman - When people tell me to "heal n00b!" I tune them out. They don't get it. |
| 02:33.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah tanky gear |
| 02:33.55 | Nom- | !char US Stormscale Innominata |
| 02:33.58 | ThraeBot | Nom-: Innominata, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (40/0/21). 7407 HP; 8313 Mana; 114 mana regen; 33 mp5; 12120 Armour; 790 AP; 97.8 Melee DPS; 5.6% melee crit; 27 melee hit; 62 spell crit; 8 spell hit; 625 +spell dmg/heal; 43 holy dmg (668); 4.33% dodge; 5% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3x3nfc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2k9bl7 ]] |
| 02:34.04 | Lunessa | !char US Kirin Tot Unkle |
| 02:34.04 | ThraeBot | Lunessa: Unkle is not the character you are looking for! |
| 02:34.12 | Lunessa | o |
| 02:34.14 | Lunessa | oops |
| 02:34.18 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:34.30 | Lunessa | !char US Kirin Tor Unkle |
| 02:34.33 | ThraeBot | Lunessa: Unkle, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/48/13). 6549 HP; 5930 Mana; 126 mana regen; 17 mp5; 3947 Armour; 1088 AP; 149 Melee DPS; 20.59% melee crit; 84 melee hit; 16.83% dodge; 5% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ab384 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35kqd3 ]] |
| 02:34.51 | Shirik | hm, I feel a little better about my priest now :) |
| 02:35.08 | [dRaCo] | Lunessa: I got a good healing gear in my bags and I'm totally ok with healing, but I gotta get ooc to swap. |
| 02:35.09 | Shirik | but yeah the +heal is closer to 750ish and mp/5 is about 30 |
| 02:35.12 | Shirik | 306* |
| 02:35.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need more hp |
| 02:35.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 02:35.54 | Nom- | most pre-karazhan priests should have like 1400 +healing |
| 02:36.10 | Lunessa | yeah. Lots of fights are DPS critical though. If I drop back enough to heal (2.5 sec cast FTL) for my low-power heal, that, about 5-6 seconds where I do no damage. It's lose/lose. |
| 02:36.10 | Nom- | and a LOT more mana regen :P |
| 02:36.40 | Lunessa | !char US Kirin Tor Lunessa |
| 02:36.43 | ThraeBot | Lunessa: Lunessa, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (31/30/0). 5601 HP; 10065 Mana; 285 mana regen; 99 mp5; 14 spell crit; 9 spell hit; 141 +spell dmg; 1502 +heal; 6.38% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22nedg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vx4zf ]] |
| 02:36.48 | Nom- | It's really not hard to get 1400 +healing either |
| 02:37.12 | [dRaCo] | Lunessa: healing or dps in a fight. my guild's pretty ok with that. |
| 02:37.14 | Nom- | My pally has 1600 +healing and is missing a few enchants, but he's in full kara plate |
| 02:37.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's better than dropping back to heal and healing for a measly 2.5 k on my 3.5 sec cast heal though lunessa :[ |
| 02:37.17 | cogwheel | :O I just got an in-game mail from someone I chewed out..... apologizing for upsetting me >< |
| 02:37.31 | Nom- | I went into Kara as a tank, but still has 1200 +healing |
| 02:37.36 | cogwheel | (that icon doesn't look right if you're using chatzilla... supposed to be surprise not glee) |
| 02:38.00 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies Yeah, I took some Resto talents for totem boosts. So I get some time shaved off my heal. |
| 02:38.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | well so did i :P |
| 02:38.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 sec |
| 02:38.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | with talents |
| 02:38.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not everyone else does |
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| 02:38.45 | Lunessa | I know the pain. I have a resto druid, a feral druid, and a boomkin druid. |
| 02:38.51 | [dRaCo] | 0/41+/x is the only way to go als enhancement, if you ask me :> |
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| 02:38.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | boomkins are probably the most hybridy of any druid spec though |
| 02:39.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | they can swap from dps to healing on the fly and do well at it |
| 02:39.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | we can't swap from dpsing to tanking or vice versa and do anything useful |
| 02:39.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | as feral |
| 02:40.01 | Nom- | So are shockadins ! |
| 02:40.19 | Lunessa | We used to have a druid in our guild who claimed he was feral spec. I would always correct him and say - No, you're kitty-dps spec. |
| 02:40.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, pallies can swap between roles except higher end tanking and other stuff reasonably well |
| 02:40.37 | Nom- | nah you can't tank without some points in protection |
| 02:40.51 | Nom- | Not against anything harder than like the dragons in BRM |
| 02:40.53 | Nom- | BEM |
| 02:41.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never had a pally tank |
| 02:41.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | well once |
| 02:41.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | but he left like 20 mins in and i took over |
| 02:41.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | not since bc at least |
| 02:41.46 | Nom- | I'm well geared for tanking |
| 02:41.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had plenty tank dire maul, strat, etc |
| 02:41.49 | Nom- | But I'm not specced for it |
| 02:42.03 | Nom- | The thing about a pally tank is |
| 02:42.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | back in pre 2.0 wow |
| 02:42.11 | Nom- | You get a good healer and a good pally tank |
| 02:42.14 | Nom- | And you don't need CC |
| 02:42.24 | Lunessa | We used a Prot paladin for all kinds of tanking. He's better at it than most of our warriors. |
| 02:42.42 | [dRaCo] | prot is great for aoe tanking |
| 02:43.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of mine stick to healing |
| 02:43.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | like beaten dogs |
| 02:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | they need to rise up and defend their right to do other things |
| 02:44.04 | Nom- | Shirik: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=29175 / http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=32964 |
| 02:44.05 | [dRaCo] | they need pretty good gear to tank... |
| 02:44.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | they need to be proud to have 900 spell damage |
| 02:44.11 | Nom- | When he gets back *sigh* |
| 02:44.28 | Lunessa | My guild is paladin heavy. VERY paladin heavy. And all but 3 are Ret-spec. |
| 02:44.44 | Nom- | I'm proud to have 680 spell dmage |
| 02:44.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | my entire server has nothing but holy spec pallies apparently |
| 02:44.48 | Nom- | But i'm working on getting it higher |
| 02:44.50 | [dRaCo] | retribution. |
| 02:44.57 | [dRaCo] | I dont like em. |
| 02:45.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do |
| 02:45.11 | Nom- | Retribution is an awesome DPS build |
| 02:45.24 | Nom- | I was #6 on the dps meters for Gruul the other day |
| 02:45.24 | [dRaCo] | ? |
| 02:45.26 | Nom- | As Retribution |
| 02:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like people being different than the standard role people think they should be |
| 02:45.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | as long as the class is capable of it |
| 02:45.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm looking at you melee hunters |
| 02:46.12 | [dRaCo] | yeah, most retri palas suck, though. |
| 02:46.23 | Lunessa | heh, while leveling my shaman, I duo-ed a lot with a shadow priest. I was the tank. |
| 02:46.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | !char US Llane Raybeez |
| 02:46.30 | Nom- | [dRaCo]: Horde or Alliance ? |
| 02:46.30 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Raybeez, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (1/46/14). 13154 HP; 5060 Mana; 128 mana regen; 23712 Armour; 949 AP; 134.9 Melee DPS; 19.73% melee crit; 171 defense; 19.31% dodge; 5 resilience; +33 all resists (+10 nature); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/28qy6r ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uxaaz ]] |
| 02:46.36 | [dRaCo] | horde :) |
| 02:46.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | shamans are great tanks up until level 50 or so |
| 02:46.41 | Nom- | That's why... |
| 02:46.48 | [dRaCo] | yeah, figured. |
| 02:46.52 | Nom- | Most Horde paladins don't have an f'ing clue how to play Retribution |
| 02:47.01 | Nom- | Some are learning though |
| 02:47.15 | Nom- | The thing about retribution, contrary to popular beleif |
| 02:47.21 | Nom- | It's all about stacking Attack Power and Crit |
| 02:47.23 | Nom- | That's it |
| 02:47.52 | Nom- | Spell Damage does next to nothing for a Ret pally |
| 02:47.57 | [dRaCo] | I'd rather take one more warrior or rogue instead of more than one retri pala. |
| 02:48.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need more hp, armor, and dodge :[ |
| 02:48.18 | Nom- | Yeah, until you find a good one |
| 02:48.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | my tanking gear is now sub-par |
| 02:48.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 02:48.28 | Nom- | Then you'll wonder why you never took one before |
| 02:48.44 | [dRaCo] | one retri is quite useful for the 3% crit debuff |
| 02:49.04 | Nom- | Ret Pally is most useful with 3 paladins in the group |
| 02:49.17 | Nom- | They can single-handedly keep up JotC, JoW and JoL |
| 02:49.54 | [dRaCo] | yeah... and I love having JoW and JoL on a boss. |
| 02:50.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | like i said |
| 02:50.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't had a judgement up on a boss for about a year |
| 02:51.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | all of them are healbots :[ |
| 02:51.07 | Nom- | Rogues LOVE JoL |
| 02:51.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love any judgement |
| 02:51.15 | [dRaCo] | make em judge something. |
| 02:51.15 | Nom- | Especially Dagger rogues |
| 02:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they never do |
| 02:51.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just stick back and heal |
| 02:51.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't the paladin himself have to melee it to refresh the judgment? |
| 02:51.57 | Nom- | Unless you have a ret pally |
| 02:52.10 | Nom- | Crusader Strike renews ALL judgements, including those of other paladins |
| 02:52.36 | Nom- | JoL for instance is a 40% proc rate |
| 02:52.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | like i said |
| 02:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | all healbots :[ |
| 02:52.52 | Nom- | Now, you take a dagger rogue with a 1.0 speed attack |
| 02:53.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | kitty drood kthx |
| 02:53.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | that plus leader of the pack means my party would never need healing except for the tank |
| 02:53.33 | Nom- | They can heal about 5.5k damage per minute |
| 02:53.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | because my party's all melee |
| 02:53.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | well except the warlock we sometimes have |
| 02:53.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | for kara, that is |
| 02:54.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | but damn, the prince fight is amazingly fun |
| 02:54.22 | Nom- | That's assuming 40% proc rate, 120 attacks per minute, 115 health per proc (T4 2-peice healing set bonus) |
| 02:54.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | a pally being up there judging with light woulda made it so much easier though |
| 02:54.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | we were getting hit with shadow novas which don't hurt bad but waste mana |
| 02:54.57 | Nom- | Prince is so incredibally easy |
| 02:55.05 | Nom- | Once you work out the trick for all ur ranged DPS |
| 02:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you get 2 bad infernal layouts |
| 02:55.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | in a row |
| 02:55.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
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| 02:55.28 | Nom- | Then everyone does ranged attacks |
| 02:55.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | we had about 5 feet to stand to be out of the way of infernals |
| 02:55.33 | Nom- | And you just heal through it |
| 02:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was easy when infernals were laid out right |
| 02:55.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | like ony only about 10 times easier |
| 02:55.56 | Nom- | Nah, there's a positioning trick so your healers NEVER get hit with infernals |
| 02:56.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | our healers weren't the problem |
| 02:56.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was the melee |
| 02:56.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 02:56.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | there was no where the tank could go to be safe |
| 02:56.28 | Nom- | The tank doesn't need to move |
| 02:56.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | the ranged could stand in a little 5 foot circle |
| 02:56.34 | Nom- | If an infernal lands on top of the tank |
| 02:56.46 | Nom- | The tank stays where they are, and your melee uses ranged attacks until it despawns |
| 02:56.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's about the only safe spot for us |
| 02:57.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | was this little tiny dot |
| 02:57.14 | Nom- | And with this positioning trick, noone gets hit with shadow nova either |
| 02:57.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | the whole floor was covered except this tiny little dot :[ |
| 02:57.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | twice in a row |
| 02:57.24 | Nom- | except for the tank and any melee who don't get enfeebled |
| 02:57.45 | Wobwork | what's the trick? |
| 02:59.21 | Nom- | There's a little column and a different texture block right next to the door |
| 02:59.27 | Nom- | All ranged and healers stand there |
| 02:59.45 | Nom- | The tank positions themselves along the wall to the right as you walk in at max heal range |
| 02:59.59 | Nom- | Anyone who gets enfeebled runs to where the healers are |
| 03:00.16 | Nom- | The tank never moves, backs themself against the wall so the knockback from shadow nova doesn't send him anyway |
| 03:00.21 | Nom- | That's it |
| 03:00.30 | Nom- | Melee runs around a bit...ranged might have to hide during enfeeble |
| 03:00.34 | Nom- | Otherwise you don't move |
| 03:01.00 | [dRaCo] | I dont like the "heal through elementals" part |
| 03:01.13 | Nom- | If an infernal drops, as i said...melee runs next to ranged and just throws their daggers or whatnot until it despawns |
| 03:01.23 | Nom- | It's not hard when noone else in the raid takes damage |
| 03:01.35 | Nom- | We do it with 3 healers (1xPaladin,1xPriest,1xShaman) |
| 03:01.59 | Nom- | We also have a Shadow Priest feeding those healers mana |
| 03:02.22 | Nom- | The elementals don't do that much damage...we've done it with ease even with 2 infernals on the tank |
| 03:02.31 | Nom- | It's only when you move that you actually get in trouble |
| 03:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Nom-> All ranged and healers stand there |
| 03:10.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | we did that |
| 03:10.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | until we had infernals cover the whole floor |
| 03:10.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | in phase 2 |
| 03:11.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | where dps is key |
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| 03:17.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i'm going to have a heart attack roughly 3 seconds before the announcement at blizzcon |
| 03:17.34 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: What are you going to announce? |
| 03:17.42 | mikma | expansion2 |
| 03:17.44 | mikma | wheee |
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| 03:18.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | what blizzard's announcing, bleeter |
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| 03:18.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | which may be wrath of the lich king |
| 03:18.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | but we'll see |
| 03:18.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's all rumor mill |
| 03:18.38 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: I'd be more interested in any announcements you'd have :P |
| 03:18.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i was going to blizzcon i would announce something |
| 03:19.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd hop on stage and announce the next expansion will be a giraffe |
| 03:19.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | no i wouldn't because i don't feel like getting my ass kicked by security |
| 03:19.48 | cogwheel | No! Gnome Medics + Goblins for both factions! |
| 03:20.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | gnome paladins would be nice |
| 03:20.16 | Lunessa | I'd announce that waffles are the tastiest food outside of Thelsamar Blood Sausage. |
| 03:20.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think i could ever eat blood sausage |
| 03:20.42 | cogwheel | But waffles are much easier for finding ingredients |
| 03:20.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | or many other old world savory meat dishes :[ |
| 03:21.00 | Lunessa | me either, but I was wondering if anyone else would get the reference to in-game quest text. |
| 03:21.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did that quest in about december of 04 |
| 03:21.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can't remember anything about it |
| 03:21.44 | Lunessa | lol |
| 03:22.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | all this convention talk is making me foam at the mouth for dragoncon and anime weekend atlanta though |
| 03:22.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love conventions except for the smell |
| 03:24.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'd think blizzard would have released a patch during blizzcon to see what kind of chaos would happen without them there |
| 03:24.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | that happened last blizzcon if i recall |
| 03:24.36 | Lunessa | zomg dragoncon |
| 03:24.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | what about it, Lunessa |
| 03:24.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 03:25.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to the machinima panel |
| 03:25.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went in 05 too |
| 03:25.19 | Lunessa | At Dragon*Con fandom does YOU |
| 03:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | this year the myndflame crew will be there |
| 03:25.47 | Lunessa | I haven't been since, '93 |
| 03:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe we'll get to see escape from ogrimmar |
| 03:26.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | 05 was my first time going |
| 03:26.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i liked AWA better though overall |
| 03:26.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm more interested in anime than scifi/fantasy/traditional gaming |
| 03:26.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | or LARPing :[ |
| 03:27.30 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: DPS is not key, healing is key |
| 03:27.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | really? |
| 03:27.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | we did fine with two and a half healers |
| 03:27.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | like the tank was perfectly fine |
| 03:28.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only problem was their endurance |
| 03:28.07 | Nom- | That's what I mean :P |
| 03:28.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is why i say dps is king |
| 03:28.17 | Nom- | Phase 3 is healing intense |
| 03:28.26 | Nom- | Phase 2 is just slightly stressful |
| 03:28.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | faster phase 2 = less healing required |
| 03:28.40 | Nom- | Phase 1 is a cake walk |
| 03:28.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 03:29.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just mangle every now and then and cower |
| 03:29.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | rip at 5 points |
| 03:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | then in phase two i bring on the hurtin |
| 03:29.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ignored the shadow nova though :P |
| 03:30.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i avoided like every other one amazingly |
| 03:30.05 | Nom- | Nah |
| 03:30.12 | Nom- | Unless you have a really melee heavy group |
| 03:30.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 03:30.19 | Nom- | You're better of not worrying about DPS |
| 03:30.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's me and a rouge |
| 03:30.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | rogue |
| 03:30.31 | Nom- | That's fine then |
| 03:30.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes a dps war too |
| 03:30.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | but he was offline atm |
| 03:30.42 | Nom- | If an infernal drops, just go caster form and either cast or help heal |
| 03:30.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 03:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd be better off /sleeping |
| 03:31.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can heal 4 times man |
| 03:31.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | for 12000 hp total |
| 03:31.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just stick in there and avoid infernals to my best abilities |
| 03:31.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes you can't though |
| 03:31.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather die dpsing than try to shift out |
| 03:32.03 | Nom- | Then you're just making your healers work harder |
| 03:32.13 | Nom- | Trust me, phase 2 is hard enough without having to heal the DPS too |
| 03:32.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was pretty easy when the infernals didn't suck |
| 03:32.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | our ranged guys had to move to the middle of the area |
| 03:32.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | because an infernal hit them |
| 03:32.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | twice |
| 03:32.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | in a row |
| 03:32.50 | Nom- | Then they were in the wrong spot |
| 03:32.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, right at the door |
| 03:33.01 | Nom- | Dude |
| 03:33.07 | Nom- | Infernals NEVER land right next to the door |
| 03:33.11 | Nom- | So your positioning was wrong |
| 03:33.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | they did |
| 03:33.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | twice in a row |
| 03:33.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | or close enough to hit them |
| 03:33.28 | Nom- | Nup, you were in the wrong spot |
| 03:33.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | right next to the doorway in |
| 03:33.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | right? |
| 03:33.39 | Nom- | We've had two raids doing it this way for 6 weeks |
| 03:33.43 | Nom- | NEVER have been hit there |
| 03:33.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's where we were |
| 03:33.52 | cogwheel | OK... anyone know a free utility (or combination) to create a small animated GIF from something in-game? I assume i'll need something like FRAPS to record it, but I have no idea what to use for the rest... |
| 03:34.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | ingame? |
| 03:34.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | does it -have- to be ingame? |
| 03:34.16 | Nom- | The closest the infernals ever land is within cleanse range |
| 03:34.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | what are you doing? |
| 03:34.28 | Nom- | In which case a healer will get hit if they run in to cleanse, but aside from that |
| 03:34.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, they had to move and they were right there |
| 03:34.37 | cogwheel | I'm trying to make a forum avatar for WoWI & Curse :) |
| 03:34.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | use wowmodelviewer :O |
| 03:34.50 | Corrodias | we had horrible problems on the prince for the last few weeks |
| 03:34.54 | Kirov | cog - take a screenshot in the area you want, then use modelviewer |
| 03:35.07 | cogwheel | I want one of the rotating gears in toshley's |
| 03:35.09 | [dRaCo] | cog: I use Animation Shop for stuff like that, it's not freeware, though :/ |
| 03:35.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | ours was all luck |
| 03:35.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | cog, i'll see what i can do |
| 03:35.36 | cogwheel | Mr_Rabies2: o rly? |
| 03:35.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | when the infernals didn't fuck over our raid we did him incredibly easily |
| 03:35.40 | cogwheel | tyvm! |
| 03:35.44 | Nom- | http://www.bosskillers.com/pix/bbguild/feature/prince-pos.jpg |
| 03:35.53 | Nom- | Ok ther'es a pic of the area |
| 03:36.11 | Nom- | See the arrow which says "Reposition if needed." pointing to the left ? |
| 03:36.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you want a background of toshley's? |
| 03:36.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | or a specific color, or what? |
| 03:36.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, that's where they were, bom |
| 03:36.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 03:36.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | nom |
| 03:36.39 | Nom- | You should be at the rocky spot just above the arrow head |
| 03:36.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 03:36.49 | cogwheel | I like the atmosphere at toshley's... gimme a sec and i'll post a screenshot of the one I want |
| 03:36.52 | Wobwork | Never gets hit by infernals, eh? |
| 03:36.58 | Nom- | The tank should be off screen to the left |
| 03:37.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, nom |
| 03:37.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's how we had it |
| 03:37.26 | Nom- | Infernals never land close enough to hit people standing in that rocky outcrop next to the door |
| 03:37.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | our tank got hit by 2 infernals and they covered the whole floor |
| 03:37.47 | Nom- | They land close enough to hit someone who is standing closer to the tank |
| 03:37.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | except for a little 5 inch circle |
| 03:37.53 | Nom- | but never someone right in the corner |
| 03:38.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | a little 5 inch circle about 10 feet behind the tank |
| 03:38.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | was the only safe spot |
| 03:38.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | our ranged dps had to move there |
| 03:38.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | from the cave entrance |
| 03:38.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | well more than 10 feet, probably 30 yards |
| 03:39.19 | Nom- | Well, i dunno man...seems odd that in probably 20+ attempts we've never been hit there |
| 03:39.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really random :O |
| 03:39.39 | Nom- | And given that we copied out strat from another guild who has been donig it longer than us |
| 03:39.43 | cogwheel | Mr_Rabies2: http://ctscreens.net/8280 It's just to the right of the inn |
| 03:39.44 | Nom- | And they've never been hit there either |
| 03:39.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | we used the same one |
| 03:39.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and got owned :[ |
| 03:39.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | twice in a row too |
| 03:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | once the infernals would behave we did fine |
| 03:40.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is also the same server that has peddlefeet from valentines still in stormwind and the wolf in kara moves faster than the riding hood |
| 03:40.32 | Nom- | The absolute worst we ever did with infernal locations was having 2 land right on top of the tank |
| 03:40.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yeah |
| 03:40.36 | Nom- | And we just healed through it |
| 03:40.41 | Nom- | Healers never had to move...ever |
| 03:41.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | our whole ranged dps had to move to about 30 yard right behind the prince |
| 03:41.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the side of the gnomish inns, cog? |
| 03:42.00 | cogwheel | yeah... well, you can use something like it if you're horde... |
| 03:42.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm using the modelviewer |
| 03:42.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 03:42.21 | cogwheel | kk :) |
| 03:42.41 | Kirov | found it |
| 03:42.44 | Kirov | cog - how big? |
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| 03:46.48 | cogwheel | umm... maybe 150x150? I should be able to resize it myself as necessary... |
| 03:54.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason i can't get the modelviewer to extract as an animated gif |
| 03:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 03:54.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it won't animate |
| 03:57.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i could i woulda been done forever ago |
| 03:57.52 | cogwheel | hmm... I'd be happy with multiple stills... I'm pretty sure I've got something that can compile them into a gif |
| 03:59.02 | Kirov | I'll have one done soon |
| 03:59.17 | cogwheel | you guys r teh awsum |
| 04:00.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet it's because the model doesnt animate like others |
| 04:02.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope...hrm O_o |
| 04:02.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh well i'll fire up imageready and see if the frames are there |
| 04:06.56 | Kirov | now if I can just remember how to do transparency in image ready |
| 04:16.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i give up :[ |
| 04:16.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | wowmodelviewer is refusing to export as an animated gif |
| 04:18.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | that specific model at least |
| 04:19.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got illidan to work fine O_o |
| 04:20.13 | cogwheel | Mr_Rabies2: can it export multiple stills? |
| 04:20.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | not that i see |
| 04:20.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | well it can but i'd have to take them carefully |
| 04:20.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't slow or stop the animation of this specific model |
| 04:23.57 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/wow/cog.gif |
| 04:24.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | how'd you get it to work |
| 04:24.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 04:24.33 | Kirov | Secret |
| 04:24.38 | Kirov | One involving HyperCam |
| 04:25.08 | cogwheel | thanks a lot! |
| 04:30.39 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/redRecolor.jpg - *sniff* I miss my red dragon stalker |
| 04:31.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | my recolor was black |
| 04:32.17 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/blackRecolor.jpg ? |
| 04:32.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think |
| 04:33.08 | Tem | is it still possible to recolor gear> |
| 04:33.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | not easily |
| 04:33.14 | Tem | s/>/?/ |
| 04:33.18 | Kirov | Did you get it from worldofwar? |
| 04:33.26 | Kirov | Tem - yes |
| 04:33.30 | Kirov | It is "possible" |
| 04:33.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think kirov |
| 04:33.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's been a while |
| 04:33.40 | bleeter | Cairenn: btw, 2.1.0's released. |
| 04:33.50 | Tem | I also saw a video of someone who changed their model to the undead model |
| 04:33.50 | Cairenn | thanks bleeter :) |
| 04:33.55 | Kirov | But there are checks in place in warden to catch it. |
| 04:34.11 | bleeter | apparently IM windows look different now, dunno - I don't use it ;) |
| 04:34.12 | Kirov | Tem - Aye, the gnome warrior |
| 04:34.19 | Tem | no it was a femal mage |
| 04:34.21 | Tem | human |
| 04:34.37 | Kirov | Mr_Rabies2 - you probably used my recolor then |
| 04:34.52 | Tem | I'd give my left nut to have the casting animations of the female undead instead of human |
| 04:35.08 | Kirov | Tem - A friend of mine was changing his armor textures, got banned for it. |
| 04:35.21 | Tem | weak |
| 04:35.48 | Tem | the next thing I was going to say was "but I'd settle for a recolor of my season 2 armor" |
| 04:35.49 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/WoWAlf.jpg - This race > blood elf |
| 04:35.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh, kirov :P |
| 04:36.29 | Tem | Kirov, temp ban? |
| 04:36.30 | Kirov | Could make having passive pets useful again |
| 04:36.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Kirov> But there are checks in place in warden to catch it. |
| 04:36.40 | Kirov | Tem - perminant |
| 04:36.43 | Tem | damn |
| 04:36.46 | Tem | but... why? |
| 04:36.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | warden didnt use to have any :O |
| 04:37.00 | Tem | that hardly seems ban worthy |
| 04:37.14 | Kirov | Mr_Rabies2 - didn't use to, but I'm fairly sure it does checks now |
| 04:38.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | tem |
| 04:38.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | people can change WSG's gates to a chest |
| 04:38.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and jump over it |
| 04:38.31 | Tem | I'm aware |
| 04:38.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | bam they're halfway across the field early :O |
| 04:38.46 | Tem | but just the textures doesn't seem ban worthy to me |
| 04:38.56 | Tem | big wow I made my season two armor not look like shit |
| 04:39.06 | Tem | please ban me for making my clown suit look nice |
| 04:39.29 | Kirov | The checks they're doing is just to make sure the packages haven't been tampered with |
| 04:39.38 | Tem | right |
| 04:39.42 | Tem | and any change |
| 04:39.45 | Tem | innocent or not |
| 04:39.46 | Kirov | Exactly |
| 04:39.47 | Tem | gets picked up |
| 04:40.20 | Kirov | And one texture change, which isn't innocent, is the making of all herbs bright pink / purple |
| 04:40.29 | Tem | hehe |
| 04:40.35 | Tem | that'd be handy |
| 04:40.37 | Kirov | That's one of the big ones that cause the lock down in the first place. |
| 04:42.05 | Wobwork | I remember the texture change that turned loot sparkles into the moonstone beam |
| 04:42.37 | Tem | that's a model change |
| 04:44.27 | Wobwork | er yeah =) That =) |
| 04:44.36 | Wobwork | I'd so play an Alf though |
| 04:44.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just noticed the cat next to alf |
| 04:44.54 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 04:45.01 | Wobwork | Cats would go missing =) |
| 04:51.02 | Tem | for why? |
| 04:51.36 | Kirov | Tem - why ace or why not? |
| 04:52.42 | Wobwork | Would it gain anything from Ace? |
| 04:53.19 | Kirov | Easy(ier) backwards compatibility to the original Sprocket? |
| 04:53.38 | Kirov | meh, I'm starting it in a new folder, ef it |
| 04:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 04:56.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any image hosts that can support a file that's ~2.5mb? |
| 04:57.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | got it :] |
| 04:58.46 | Nom- | So many of my mods come from Ace now :P |
| 04:58.59 | Nom- | Omen = best threat mod ever |
| 04:59.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 04:59.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i use all of ckknight's except parrot |
| 04:59.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like SCT more as it stands :P |
| 05:00.05 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 05:00.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a different idea behind it though |
| 05:00.10 | ckknight | ...traitor |
| 05:00.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like how sct does things more |
| 05:00.35 | ckknight | that's okay |
| 05:00.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | but parrot's very nice :D |
| 05:00.49 | Nom- | hmm parrot eh? |
| 05:00.52 | Nom- | might have a look tonight |
| 05:01.07 | Wobwork | Kirov: That's not a good enough excuse for using Ace =) |
| 05:01.26 | Wobwork | If you're not using the libraries specifically, you may as well roll your own, as it were |
| 05:02.06 | Nom- | I know that people keep saying that being Ace doesn't make it better |
| 05:02.14 | Nom- | But that seems to hold true lately, for a different reason |
| 05:02.38 | Wobwork | Well there's nothing wrong with using Ace, if you're going to actually use it |
| 05:02.42 | Nom- | It seems the quality code is being written in Ace framework, and somewhat garbage code is being written standalone |
| 05:03.06 | Nom- | Omen is a good example :) |
| 05:03.13 | Nom- | It's leaps and bounds above KTM |
| 05:03.17 | Wobwork | But if you're not going to use the functionality/libraries to the fullest extent, then it's not worth the overhead |
| 05:03.46 | Wobwork | Nom-: That could be (and probably is) because it is written from scratch |
| 05:03.49 | Nom- | Well, given all but 2-3 addon folders in my addon directory are from Ace now |
| 05:03.50 | ckknight | Ace is kinda bloaty at times |
| 05:04.04 | Wobwork | KTM has had the unfortunate issue all long term projects have |
| 05:04.08 | Nom- | Then I could argue that for me especially, Ace is much better...there should (in theory) be less duplication of code |
| 05:04.14 | Wobwork | it's gotten past the original spec |
| 05:04.28 | Wobwork | Nom-: Absolutely. If you use the libraries to their fullest extent |
| 05:05.01 | Wobwork | If you end up using one function out of 20 in a library, you may as well write that function call yourself |
| 05:05.08 | ckknight | well, there's a reason I'm making a new Ace now anyway |
| 05:05.12 | Nom- | the tracking of threat on individual mobs rather than in general is probably Omen's biggest advantage |
| 05:05.20 | ckknight | hush hush, though |
| 05:05.50 | Nom- | AoE situations effectively render KTM useless |
| 05:05.54 | Tem | you can't be very hush hush when you say something in front of 111 people |
| 05:06.01 | Wobwork | Sekrit |
| 05:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | omen still has problems with mobs with the same name though, correct? |
| 05:06.16 | Wobwork | aye |
| 05:06.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish there was a way around that |
| 05:06.23 | Wobwork | but then again, so does KTM =) |
| 05:06.31 | Wobwork | Kenco said he had a way around it! |
| 05:06.38 | Wobwork | I really want to see what he comes up with |
| 05:06.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | hopefully blizzard lets the UI see the internal unit numbers |
| 05:07.02 | Kirov | So very very unlikely |
| 05:07.13 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 05:07.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | why? :[ |
| 05:07.23 | Wobwork | They don't want to make it -that- easy |
| 05:07.37 | Wobwork | the whole Omen/KTM concept is well beyond what they originally intended |
| 05:07.38 | ckknight | Tem: meh, there's commits every few minutes in the #wowace channel to it, that has 232 people |
| 05:07.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's plenty of other things it'd be good for |
| 05:07.47 | Kirov | I've said it before, and I'll say it again. WoW's entire targetting system from the ground up was designed to prevent users from seeing that information. |
| 05:07.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | like naturenemycastbar and wahtnot |
| 05:08.05 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/cats/ihassecret.jpg |
| 05:08.09 | Tem | ckknight, I was being faceteous |
| 05:08.12 | Wobwork | The fact that people like Kenco and others reverse engineered the threat mechanics isn't something Blizzard expected |
| 05:08.38 | ckknight | lol, Nom- |
| 05:08.43 | Wobwork | and they're not going to do anything to make that easier =) |
| 05:09.45 | Nom- | The only prolbem I have with my UI right now |
| 05:09.49 | Nom- | Is there isn't enough real estate |
| 05:10.01 | Nom- | the good news is, i'm about to get a $750 tax refund |
| 05:10.10 | Nom- | And i'll go get a new 22" Widescreen LCD :D |
| 05:12.17 | Nom- | http://ple.com.au/?p=products&category_sub_id=1571 <-- $429 or $499 |
| 05:12.17 | Nom- | one of them |
| 05:12.37 | Tem | wewt |
| 05:12.43 | art3mis | wheeeeeeeee |
| 05:12.44 | Tem | found a buyer for my pants of the living growth |
| 05:12.47 | art3mis | 2 days to X-games |
| 05:13.02 | art3mis | tem: that sounds sooooooooooooo wrong |
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| 05:13.26 | Tem | >< |
| 05:13.29 | Kirov | It's the wow version of Cialus! |
| 05:13.47 | ckknight | Cialis |
| 05:13.58 | art3mis | i have pants of the living growth |
| 05:14.07 | art3mis | can't sell it though |
| 05:14.08 | Kirov | How would I know how it's spelled, every damn e-mail spells it differently! |
| 05:14.33 | Tain | C1@l1s |
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| 05:16.31 | cogwheel | http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470229810.html |
| 05:16.56 | cogwheel | just noticed they put this up :) |
| 05:19.42 | Nom- | aaaaaaaaaaggh |
| 05:19.47 | Nom- | XML isn't a programming language |
| 05:20.57 | Kirov | It is too |
| 05:21.10 | Kirov | I wrote a 3d engine using only XML! |
| 05:21.30 | Kirov | <run exe="Quake3.exe"/> |
| 05:21.49 | art3mis | sweet! |
| 05:22.02 | Nom- | No it's not |
| 05:22.23 | Nom- | A file with that in it doesn't do jack sh*t on it's own |
| 05:22.29 | Kirov | eXtensible Markup Language wtf |
| 05:22.41 | Kirov | @#%! |
| 05:22.44 | Nom- | It's a way of presenting data, nothing more |
| 05:22.54 | Kirov | ftw ~= wtf |
| 05:23.06 | Nom- | not even presenting, really, just storing |
| 05:23.25 | Kirov | I use XML at work all the time. |
| 05:23.27 | Nom- | XML is really no different from a Word Document or an INI file |
| 05:23.37 | Iriel | You could write a programming language that used XML for its source |
| 05:23.40 | Nom- | It's just a format for storing data, which something else can interpret |
| 05:23.51 | Iriel | (I actually have, while I come to think of it, but it's fairly specialized) |
| 05:24.33 | Nom- | Still not a programming language though, it's just a flat text file with data in it |
| 05:24.47 | Nom- | Which some other piece of code decides what to do with those elements you create |
| 05:25.25 | Nom- | Yes, one can argue that describes all interpreted languages |
| 05:25.34 | Nom- | But meh whatever |
| 05:25.41 | Kirov | I program with HTML! |
| 05:25.57 | Nom- | No you don't |
| 05:25.59 | Nom- | :P |
| 05:26.19 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:26.23 | Kirov | "Programing languages known - HTML, Photoshop Macros" |
| 05:26.40 | Nom- | The general public doesn't understand the difference between HTML and C/C++ |
| 05:26.42 | Nom- | That's the problem |
| 05:27.45 | Nom- | Me, I know: C, C++, Perl, JavaScript, Java(some), PHP, LUA(some), Visual Basic(some) |
| 05:27.50 | art3mis | what are those things after the C ? |
| 05:27.56 | Nom- | I even did some ColdFusion back when it was actually new |
| 05:27.59 | art3mis | is that some "gay"tag? |
| 05:28.06 | Kirov | art3mis - Dollar signs |
| 05:28.10 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:28.14 | art3mis | touche |
| 05:28.32 | art3mis | name one thing visual basic can do that gwbasic cant! |
| 05:28.59 | Kirov | art3mis - fill Microsoft's pockets with money? |
| 05:29.11 | Nom- | art3mis: Create GUI's ? |
| 05:29.21 | art3mis | you can make a gui in gwbasic |
| 05:29.31 | art3mis | windows 1.0 ;P dosshell etc |
| 05:29.50 | art3mis | granted those werent made in gwbasic |
| 05:29.56 | art3mis | but thats not to say they couldnt have been |
| 05:30.04 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:30.14 | Nom- | not without changes to the core of the language |
| 05:30.27 | art3mis | i made a pinball game with gwbasic |
| 05:30.30 | Nom- | ie. Adding wrappers to at the very least termcap |
| 05:30.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:30.38 | art3mis | semantics |
| 05:31.42 | Cairenn | ah ha! art3mis! |
| 05:31.56 | Cairenn | no zoodles :( |
| 05:32.01 | art3mis | waaaAA? |
| 05:32.05 | Cairenn | couldn't find any |
| 05:32.06 | art3mis | noooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 05:32.12 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 05:32.43 | Cairenn | got the rest though - you owe me for 2 JPS |
| 05:32.48 | art3mis | okies |
| 05:32.59 | art3mis | you guys what the 25's or the 20's? |
| 05:33.02 | art3mis | err have |
| 05:33.20 | Cairenn | sec |
| 05:33.41 | Cairenn | 25's |
| 05:33.56 | art3mis | wooo ! |
| 05:34.04 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:34.06 | art3mis | how could they not have zoodles? |
| 05:34.14 | art3mis | you didnt go to a safeway did you ;) |
| 05:34.21 | Cairenn | nope, Loeb |
| 05:34.33 | Cairenn | big chain here in Ont |
| 05:34.37 | Cairenn | no zoodles |
| 05:34.43 | art3mis | wow |
| 05:34.49 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 05:34.57 | art3mis | thats kinna wierd |
| 05:35.03 | art3mis | oh well |
| 05:35.36 | Cairenn | sorry - got you the chocolate too though :) |
| 05:36.01 | art3mis | groovy |
| 05:36.13 | art3mis | you're the second bestest! |
| 05:36.16 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:39.53 | art3mis | course you could move to first depending on how cheap a drunk you are ;) |
| 05:39.55 | art3mis | err |
| 05:39.56 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:48.27 | Cairenn | how does that old expression go? "Easy, sleazy and cheap. But choosy." |
| 05:49.13 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:49.42 | ckknight | candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker |
| 05:49.54 | art3mis | i suppose its better than easy sleazy cheap and cheesey |
| 05:50.27 | Cairenn | naw, I prefer whip cream - cheese spray is just yucky |
| 05:51.02 | Iriel | whip cream melts at body temperature too fast tho |
| 05:51.17 | art3mis | thats what ac is for |
| 05:51.20 | art3mis | and the ice cubes |
| 05:53.30 | art3mis | and rope and floggers and a crop and leather restraints |
| 05:53.39 | art3mis | you know all the much have marital equipment |
| 06:36.55 | Tem | well, there's a first time for everything |
| 06:37.00 | Tem | I just lost an AV |
| 06:37.17 | Tem | I'm deleting the token |
| 06:37.21 | Tem | for 2 reasons |
| 06:37.22 | Gngsk | hah |
| 06:37.27 | Tem | 1) I want to forget this ever happened |
| 06:37.45 | Tem | 2) it'll throw off my "multiples of 3" stack of AV tokens |
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| 06:39.28 | ckknight | lol, Tem |
| 06:39.49 | Tem | 25 people from the same server with t5+ gear = loss |
| 06:39.58 | Tem | and a painful 30 minutes of trying to stop it from happening |
| 06:40.04 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 07:11.19 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: http://www.twistedguild.com/files/PrinceDonePro.wmv |
| 07:11.31 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: It's not a particularly good takedown of prince, since they let the tank die |
| 07:11.37 | Nom- | But that's the positioning we use :P |
| 07:12.04 | Nom- | Oh, and it's big |
| 07:12.10 | Nom- | So you better have a good connection to watch lol |
| 07:12.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | filefront it kthx |
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| 07:23.21 | Thunder_Child | i fraps at 3.9 GB per 2.5 min |
| 07:24.35 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:25.30 | Thunder_Child | well i cant stand it when it looks bad |
| 07:25.38 | Thunder_Child | so i fraps at my resolution |
| 07:26.03 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:26.31 | Nom- | I'd hate to see what 1680x1050 looks like capped uncompressed |
| 07:26.40 | Nom- | size wise i mean |
| 07:27.05 | Nom- | I doubt I have enough free disk space to record a 10 minute boss fight :P |
| 07:27.06 | Thunder_Child | does fraps compress it? |
| 07:27.11 | Nom- | nope |
| 07:27.21 | Nom- | That's why it's 3.9GB per 2.5 mins |
| 07:27.25 | Thunder_Child | then it is 3.9gb per 2.5 min |
| 07:27.36 | Nom- | heh ouch |
| 07:27.39 | Thunder_Child | well i have about 300gb fee for it |
| 07:27.52 | Thunder_Child | my res is 1680x1050 |
| 07:27.53 | Nom- | I don't |
| 07:28.11 | Iriel | I like that the mac recording in 2.2 can save at a different resolution than you play |
| 07:28.36 | Nom- | and it stores in quicktime format |
| 07:28.39 | Thunder_Child | well i have 1.8 TB of space so it's all good |
| 07:28.41 | Nom- | Which is much more space friendly |
| 07:29.18 | leethal | it's kinda silly that they're doing this mac only thing |
| 07:29.32 | leethal | blizz has always been very "yo dude you get the same game on both platforms" |
| 07:29.35 | Thunder_Child | it's because it costs on windows i bet |
| 07:29.37 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:29.44 | Iriel | Not really, the mac has all the necessary libraries installed and working |
| 07:29.46 | Nom- | one of my guildies sent me a message this morning saying "I AM MEGATRON" |
| 07:29.47 | Nom- | haha |
| 07:29.47 | Iriel | Windows does not |
| 07:30.25 | Thunder_Child | i just wish that i could record in a good res, at low size |
| 07:30.52 | leethal | compressing as you recording would probably pwn the frame rates I guess |
| 07:30.53 | Nom- | What I'm hoping |
| 07:31.00 | Nom- | Is that the video recording is available in Windows |
| 07:31.04 | Nom- | But like unupported |
| 07:31.12 | Iriel | It would depend on what your machine's cpu configuration and I/O busses were like |
| 07:31.23 | Nom- | ie. May not even be available in the default UI |
| 07:31.39 | Nom- | Either that, or I'm going to have to get Mac OS X and dual boot with Vista |
| 07:31.40 | Nom- | :P |
| 07:32.08 | Nom- | Actually, that's not altogether a stupid idea now I think of it :P |
| 07:32.11 | Iriel | I've decided OSX is tasty |
| 07:33.02 | Thunder_Child | i tried frapsing even at half size...cant read anything |
| 07:33.06 | Nom- | I'm not a huge fan |
| 07:33.23 | Nom- | But hey, I boot into Windows just to play WoW, because Linux is just too slow |
| 07:33.32 | Nom- | So doesn't make much difference if I boot into Mac OS instead |
| 07:34.02 | Nom- | I got about 60gb free |
| 07:34.04 | Nom- | That's it :/ |
| 07:34.07 | Iriel | Hm, why not dual boot between OSX and Linux then, and just play wow native? |
| 07:34.24 | Nom- | Might do that :P |
| 07:34.30 | Thunder_Child | i have mac emulated on my windows box |
| 07:34.55 | Nom- | The only reason I don't normally boot into Linux any more is because most of what I do is play WoW now :P |
| 07:35.05 | Nom- | If I work from home, I boot into Ubuntu |
| 07:35.10 | Thunder_Child | i suppose i could record that way but it might be more of a hit that way |
| 07:36.59 | bleeter | http://xkcd.com/297/ |
| 07:38.23 | Thunder_Child | heh bleeter |
| 07:42.56 | Wobwork | Nom-: that's why I play wow on ubuntu =) |
| 07:44.54 | Nom- | Wobwork: I would, but it's too slow |
| 07:45.02 | Nom- | Wobwork: Like, 15fps vs windows' 60 fps |
| 07:45.02 | Wobwork | =( |
| 07:45.09 | Wobwork | ATI? =) |
| 07:45.34 | Wobwork | that bad, bleeter? |
| 07:45.59 | bleeter | Wobwork: I'll be suprised if Wine ALSA and 2.2 'come together' and work at the same time ;) |
| 07:46.27 | bleeter | Wobwork: I guess it's only bad if one isn't death |
| 07:46.29 | bleeter | er |
| 07:46.30 | bleeter | deaf |
| 07:46.36 | bleeter | lovely freudian slip |
| 07:46.37 | Nom- | nVidia |
| 07:46.41 | Wobwork | hehe |
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| 07:59.21 | bleeter | Nom-: much desktop bling? eg beryl |
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| 08:00.33 | Nom- | Yeah, Beryl |
| 08:00.39 | Nom- | Tried both with & without tho |
| 08:00.57 | Nom- | I use Cedega though, not Wine |
| 08:01.06 | Nom- | Don't know if that makes any difference...doesn't seem to work in Wine at all |
| 08:01.08 | bleeter | with and without X comp manager loaded (not enabled/disabled) |
| 08:01.26 | Nom- | X comp manager ? |
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| 08:02.06 | bleeter | yar, just .. well, you know. remove all un-neccsary foo, see if it still happens. then slowly remove the necessary |
| 08:02.34 | bleeter | only reason I mention it is I'm getting 30FPS fine here, although I admit I don't have as much in-game bling enabled than when I run native |
| 08:02.52 | Nom- | Yeah, well that's the thing |
| 08:02.56 | Nom- | I *need* my mods |
| 08:03.04 | Nom- | It runs at a playable speed with them all turned off |
| 08:03.10 | Nom- | But that's effectively useless to me |
| 08:03.44 | Nom- | I effectively can't play without at least Bartender3, Pitbull and DHUD |
| 08:03.49 | Nom- | That's the absolutel minimum of mods for me |
| 08:04.14 | Nom- | And it's not that much fun with just those turned on...the default UI is so ugly |
| 08:09.10 | bleeter | weird, I run fine with all my mods enabled |
| 08:09.46 | MoonWolf | i can play fine without my mods |
| 08:09.50 | MoonWolf | i simply don't WANT to. |
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| 08:18.03 | Nom- | I could probably play without my mods |
| 08:18.09 | Nom- | But it would be SO painful |
| 08:18.27 | Nom- | But then again, someone who looked at my WoW screen who never used a mod before would be so completely lost |
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| 08:18.57 | Nom- | Be so glad when I get the widescreen LCD though... I'll have enough space to place all my frames better |
| 08:20.15 | bleeter | Hardly Normal had some cheapos at Chrissy last year, decent LG's that no other stockist in the country had |
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| 08:20.55 | bleeter | which kinda annoyed the regular store I used, but they understood my decision as their christmas supply delivery had got lost somewhere between Perth and Tassie |
| 08:21.07 | bleeter | they were understandably more pissed about that |
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| 08:21.12 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 08:21.18 | bleeter | 'lo |
| 08:21.28 | Nom- | lol i'm not going to get a cheapy |
| 08:21.29 | Nom- | trust me |
| 08:21.37 | Nom- | I'm aiming for about $500 for a 22" WS |
| 08:21.49 | bleeter | that's a cheapy |
| 08:22.03 | Nom- | I'll have to go and check them out though, because I want one with a fairly significant height adjustment |
| 08:22.05 | bleeter | mate of mine bought one of those combine telly/ws monitor things... kickass for WoW is all I can say |
| 08:22.10 | Nom- | lol not any more |
| 08:22.12 | bleeter | don't think he had much change left from $10k |
| 08:22.16 | Nom- | $500 is top of the range for 22" WS |
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| 08:22.44 | Nom- | $1000 is top of the range for 24" WS |
| 08:23.08 | Nom- | well, not quite...they go as high as $1500 |
| 08:23.41 | Nom- | I don't bother with crap like built in cameras and speakers |
| 08:23.49 | Nom- | I have a 5.1 system and don't like/want webcam |
| 08:23.58 | Nom- | Which makes $500 top of the range basically ;) |
| 08:24.30 | Nom- | http://www.samsung.com/au/products/monitors/tft/tvmonitor/226bw.asp <-- something like that |
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| 09:18.16 | Industrial | futurama 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEtZHOj4vHo |
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| 10:00.15 | bleeter | is zhCN client on build 6904? |
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| 11:04.07 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone use http://www.guildportal.com? |
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| 11:32.47 | bleeter | god I hate IRC/IM users... 'because your client can display mIRC colours, it should be able to send them. Anything else is a lame cop-out'. |
| 11:34.04 | krka | context? |
| 11:34.52 | bleeter | mIRC user bitching that because he can see colors in IRC sent by his buddy, he should be able to send them as well |
| 11:35.06 | bleeter | sorry, Pidgin user interacting with mIRC user |
| 11:37.38 | bleeter | complaining that as Pidgin can render the mIRC junk, it should be able to send them. I've tried explaining send and receive are different, mIRC does things outside of IRC specification, closed source, etc. Doesn't seem to get it. |
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| 11:47.04 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone use http://www.guildportal.com? |
| 11:47.49 | Industrial | yeah bleeter, but its part of the IRC protocol - its just easier to access in mIRC |
| 11:48.13 | Industrial | like bold and reversed |
| 11:48.15 | zenzelezz | since when is it part of the IRC protocol? I don't recall seeing it in 1459 |
| 11:48.32 | Industrial | er, I thought it was? :S |
| 11:48.53 | Industrial | cant check it atm, but I will then :P |
| 11:49.02 | bleeter | no occurrences of the word 'color' in 1459 |
| 11:49.10 | bleeter | nor 'colour' |
| 11:49.32 | Industrial | oh |
| 11:52.49 | Industrial | 5,8Get your lulz on! |
| 11:53.23 | bleeter | anways, I told the user to use /raw then put him on ignore |
| 11:53.25 | Industrial | bleeter: irssi can send it fine tho, and its open source :P |
| 11:53.42 | zenzelezz | it's well known how mIRC does it |
| 11:54.09 | Industrial | why use pidgin for irc anyways :P |
| 11:54.21 | bleeter | yes, which then comes down to the design philosophy for the author of the open source project |
| 11:54.53 | bleeter | if he thinks something is totally... 'retarded' I think is the word he'd use, that's his choice ;) |
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| 12:12.31 | zenzelezz | so much power :-o |
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| 12:55.33 | Josh_Borke | HA! |
| 12:55.41 | Josh_Borke | string.match is as fast as 2 string.subs! |
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| 15:16.49 | Cairenn|afk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:18.23 | zenzelezz | I sense a disturbance in the force |
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| 15:31.37 | Cairenn|afk | okay, I'm out |
| 15:31.43 | zenzelezz | nooo |
| 15:31.53 | zenzelezz | I demand compensation |
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| 15:41.12 | art3mis | www.xkcd.com |
| 15:42.55 | N00bZXI | Has anyone here by any chance succeeded installing ubuntu on a flash drive? |
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| 15:44.17 | art3mis | i was gonna but it seemed like too much work |
| 15:48.19 | Kyahx | N00bZXI: I haven't tried, but in theory it's the same as installing to a hard drive |
| 15:48.42 | Kyahx | (Allthou you may have trouble getting grub to mess with your flash drive instead of your HDD :P) |
| 15:49.20 | Kyahx | You'd need a pretty big flash drive thou, a clean install of 7.04 is > 2gb :( |
| 15:49.59 | art3mis | nah thers a modification to it to make a "lite" version |
| 15:50.08 | art3mis | i read about it from the mepis forums the other day |
| 15:50.45 | Kyahx | hmmm, I wonder if I could install to an iPod without screwing it up thou.... |
| 15:55.48 | art3mis | prolly |
| 15:55.57 | art3mis | not that it would be a good thing mind you ;) |
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| 15:59.14 | cog|work | Anyone going to the UI dinner on Saturday: We may not be able to get reservations for the 6:00 time originally planned. Would anyone have objections to 9:30 instead? |
| 16:00.21 | Kaelten | what time is the concert over? |
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| 16:09.08 | cog|work | 9:30 |
| 16:09.36 | cog|work | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10984&page=3 |
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| 16:17.53 | TS|Skrom | Anyone remember the old Jagged Alliance games? |
| 16:21.33 | Elkano | sure |
| 16:21.43 | TS|Skrom | Man I loved those |
| 16:21.51 | TS|Skrom | think I'm going to break out JA2 tonight ^^ |
| 16:22.39 | Elkano | in that case, check out http://ja2v113.pbwiki.com/ |
| 16:23.27 | TS|Skrom | neat |
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| 16:25.11 | Elkano | but talking about old games, I recently finished playing "Castle of the Winds" again ^^ |
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| 16:25.36 | TS|Skrom | Last night I got Privateer 2 to load. Need to go get my joystick out of storage |
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| 16:27.00 | TS|Skrom | So I take it this JA2 mod doesn't change the story/structure, just enables some features, adds items and adds options? |
| 16:29.35 | Elkano | well, haven't played it myself but afaik, yes. it only improves the engine/ai |
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| 18:06.58 | zenzelezz | I look totally hawt in my mixed NR/FR gear |
| 18:09.22 | zenzelezz | *NR/FrR |
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| 18:13.44 | Lunessa | If WoW is a highway, I want to ride it all night long. |
| 18:14.28 | Kirkburn | Anyone know about any ability for EU players to copy to the Blizzcon realms? |
| 18:14.33 | zenzelezz | and make love at the end of the highway? |
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| 18:15.02 | Lunessa | ... I was just looking for a laugh, not commentary on my deviancy. |
| 18:15.12 | Lunessa | :P |
| 18:15.48 | zenzelezz | I just quoted a different song |
| 18:17.17 | Kirkburn | It's hard. To remember. |
| 18:17.24 | Lunessa | You bet your bippy. |
| 18:17.38 | cog|work | Kirkburn: at least iriel looks like a dinosaur now... |
| 18:17.43 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:17.46 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 18:17.48 | cog|work | i called him "she" for the longest time |
| 18:17.49 | Kirkburn | A feminine one |
| 18:18.10 | Kirkburn | Can't you see it's wearing makeup? |
| 18:18.27 | cog|work | zomg ur rite |
| 18:18.33 | Lunessa | Haha, would it make it easier on you guys if I changed nicks? |
| 18:18.34 | zenzelezz | I assume someone that's meeting Cairenn will bring a camera so we can verify her gender as well |
| 18:18.36 | Kirkburn | C'mon, how do you think it gets such amazing colours, you think some random guy creates skins for these things? You're sick! |
| 18:18.55 | Kirkburn | Yay, pix |
| 18:19.11 | Kirkburn | At the dinner, many pictures will have to be taken |
| 18:19.24 | cog|work | except of cairenn |
| 18:19.29 | Kirkburn | Suddenly we find that everyone is actually a girl |
| 18:19.32 | cog|work | she will be hiding in the camera free room with my wife :P |
| 18:19.38 | Kirkburn | Whateva |
| 18:19.47 | zenzelezz | two women alone in a room? Now we really want pix |
| 18:19.49 | Lunessa | *snicker* |
| 18:19.49 | Kirkburn | I'll just steal your food |
| 18:19.59 | deltron | -_- |
| 18:20.35 | Lunessa | I wish I could join you, but it's just not possible this time. |
| 18:20.39 | Kirkburn | cog|work, any new news btw? |
| 18:20.58 | Kirkburn | on the dinz0r |
| 18:20.59 | cog|work | I'm waiting to hear back from the House of Blues to see if they can hold us all |
| 18:21.30 | cog|work | if not, i'll make a reservation for 20 people at Rainforest Cafe and we'll just have to squeeze any extras in as we see fit :P |
| 18:21.57 | Kirkburn | I really want to see the concert, whatever happens |
| 18:22.14 | Kirkburn | More the first, rather than L70ETC :O |
| 18:22.29 | cog|work | not a problem... either way it'll be after 9pm for the restaurant |
| 18:22.41 | Kirkburn | Neat |
| 18:22.49 | Kirkburn | When are most people arriving? Tomorrow? |
| 18:23.03 | cog|work | I'll be there tomorrow |
| 18:23.16 | Kirkburn | May I ask where you're staying? |
| 18:23.30 | cog|work | Cheapo Beds 'r us |
| 18:23.40 | Kirkburn | Don't know them :P |
| 18:23.58 | cog|work | parkside Inn & suites |
| 18:24.03 | Kirkburn | I'm at Best Western Raffles Inn And Suites |
| 18:24.16 | cog|work | my wife's great at finding really cheap places to stay :) |
| 18:24.57 | Kirkburn | Mine was only booked yesterday >< |
| 18:25.21 | Kirkburn | Ah, you're the other side of the convention centre to me |
| 18:25.49 | Kirkburn | (so, like, really far away) |
| 18:28.04 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: you're going to blizzcon? |
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| 18:34.19 | cog|work | Valaron|Work: extra "of" :P |
| 18:34.37 | Valaron|Work | Sorry!! |
| 18:35.12 | Thunder_Child | I booked myself at Guillitines Inn |
| 18:35.56 | Lunessa | Will there be drunken revelery? |
| 18:36.01 | Thunder_Child | Guillotines* |
| 18:36.57 | Thunder_Child | i doubt there will be drunken revelery in one of the largest nerd conventions |
| 18:37.04 | Thunder_Child | s/in/at/ |
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| 18:39.43 | Valaron|Work | Nerds can't drink? |
| 18:39.54 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, you can have ths sarcastic answer or the insulting answer ;) |
| 18:40.33 | Kirkburn | Valaron|Work, didn't you know? |
| 18:40.52 | Valaron|Work | I am drinking for everyone, then. |
| 18:40.55 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: request :-D |
| 18:41.22 | mikma | Kyahx: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=84562&page=23 |
| 18:41.29 | Kirkburn | One is "No, I'm not going, duh" and the other is "Tard" |
| 18:41.31 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn: if you're going can you do 2 things for me. record the UI panel session AND ask slouken to Ace2/Dongle/Joker the wow UI and provide options to choose which one to use :-D |
| 18:41.42 | Lunessa | there will be drinking and revelry and gaming |
| 18:41.49 | Kirkburn | Dinner calls, will answer later |
| 18:42.35 | Kyahx | mikma: that's a beryl bug, screw beryl :P |
| 18:43.40 | cog|work | hmm... I wonder if the beta key will be for the expansion or for SC2... |
| 18:43.57 | Josh_Borke | i'll hate you forever if it is SC2 |
| 18:44.04 | Josh_Borke | well, i'll hate you until i come kill you and steal it |
| 18:44.18 | Thunder_Child | do the panels have Q&A moments? |
| 18:44.21 | Kyahx | Not if I get there first! |
| 18:44.47 | cog|work | Unless you're on the west coast, i'm sure there are others who are closer for you to steal from :P |
| 18:45.13 | cog|work | and if you are on the west coast, then WTF are you doing not going to blizzcon? |
| 18:45.17 | Josh_Borke | but there would be more satisfaction going after you |
| 18:45.54 | cog|work | I am so going to wear my murloc costume and have my murky out at all times after the Con... |
| 18:45.56 | Valaron|Work | "No money." |
| 18:46.14 | Valaron|Work | "Afraid to fly." |
| 18:46.18 | Valaron|Work | Both of the above :P |
| 18:46.36 | cog|work | I'm driving... and my wife is great at finding cheap spots ;) |
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| 18:47.23 | Valaron|Work | I just did a bunch of driving last week. Chico -> SF -> Napa -> SF -> Napa -> Pismo Beach -> Santa Cruz -> Chico |
| 18:47.49 | cog|work | wheee |
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| 18:50.49 | Thunder_Child | all of that driving does not sound like a vacation exactly..... |
| 18:50.53 | Valaron|Work | His? I mean "its". |
| 18:51.04 | Valaron|Work | Eh.. it was a road trip, of sorts. |
| 18:51.19 | Valaron|Work | A coastal one. |
| 18:51.32 | Valaron|Work | We had a good time. Money was spent. |
| 18:52.02 | Thunder_Child | at least the coasts up there are nice |
| 18:52.50 | Josh_Borke | cog|work: will you do it? ^_^ |
| 18:52.59 | Valaron|Work | SF was the chilliest.. Pismo Beach's ocean front was 80 the entire time we were there. |
| 18:53.08 | Valaron|Work | *purr* |
| 18:53.15 | Thunder_Child | bah, to warm by 20 deg. |
| 18:53.39 | cog|work | Josh_Borke: re: the ui panel? |
| 18:53.44 | cog|work | maaaaaybe... :P |
| 18:53.56 | Valaron|Work | tape it and put it on TouTube. |
| 18:54.00 | Josh_Borke | :-D |
| 18:54.01 | Valaron|Work | Err.. you |
| 18:54.49 | Lunessa | Valaron|Work: You live in Chico? NoCal's party school capitol? |
| 18:55.16 | Valaron|Work | I live in Chico, but it's not really a "party school" anymore. |
| 18:55.32 | Valaron|Work | Maybe because I'm older.. and don't see that scene anymore :P |
| 18:56.20 | Lunessa | Well, I've been out of school longer than I care to think about too. But I used to go to Chico to visit friends. |
| 18:56.34 | Valaron|Work | When was that? |
| 18:56.46 | Lunessa | Late 90s. |
| 18:56.55 | Valaron|Work | I graduated from CSU Chico in 98. |
| 18:57.02 | Valaron|Work | Decided to stay. |
| 18:58.05 | Lunessa | I know a couple of folks there. One of my exs went to school there, and her best friends from school stayed after. |
| 18:58.22 | Valaron|Work | Where do you live? |
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| 18:59.29 | Lunessa | Now? I ilive in the Republic of texas. |
| 18:59.39 | Lunessa | Texas even |
| 19:00.24 | Valaron|Work | You should come back.. then we can party like it's 1999. |
| 19:01.19 | Lunessa | I didn't party like it was 1999 in 1999! I was too busy building das interweben. |
| 19:02.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Josh_Borke, honk |
| 19:02.24 | Kirkburn|afk | I am going to see about buying a dictaphone |
| 19:02.45 | Kirkburn|afk | I only have a digital stills camera |
| 19:03.16 | Josh_Borke | that would be kinda nice if blizzard provided video of the differentp anels |
| 19:03.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye |
| 19:03.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Who knows, perhaps they will this year |
| 19:03.45 | Kirkburn|afk | They're had two years to be more organised :P |
| 19:03.45 | Josh_Borke | delay the release until after blizzcon hasb een over for a week or two would be fine by me |
| 19:05.33 | Lunessa | So, take a laptop with a big HD and a web-cam? |
| 19:06.23 | cog|work | they won't let you in with laptops |
| 19:06.30 | cog|work | not sure about video cameras |
| 19:06.51 | Valaron|Work | The masses need to know this. |
| 19:06.58 | cog|work | yes, video cameras are allowed |
| 19:07.03 | Lunessa | ... WHAT? no laptops? |
| 19:07.04 | cog|work | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/faq.shtml |
| 19:07.14 | Lunessa | I would have withdrawls! |
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| 19:07.40 | Kody- | you can't take laptops in without a press pass |
| 19:07.56 | Josh_Borke | cairenn can be a member of the press! |
| 19:08.04 | Josh_Borke | aw, she isn't here |
| 19:08.14 | cog|work | cairenn is already on a plane (or should be :P ) |
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| 19:08.30 | Lunessa | Josh_Borke: You just want to "press" Cairenn |
| 19:08.37 | Josh_Borke | she can be the one to record and someone else can ask the questions ;-) |
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| 19:08.48 | Josh_Borke | Lunessa: who wouldn't want to? |
| 19:08.51 | d2x2959 | hi |
| 19:08.54 | Josh_Borke | hi |
| 19:08.57 | cog|work | hi |
| 19:09.02 | Josh_Borke | cog|work: copy cat |
| 19:09.04 | Lunessa | I'm not faulting you. Just saying is all. :P |
| 19:09.08 | cog|work | Josh_Borke: copy cat |
| 19:09.17 | Josh_Borke | drat, i've been foiled |
| 19:09.23 | cog|work | drat, i've been foiled |
| 19:09.38 | Josh_Borke | ~lart cog|work |
| 19:09.38 | purl | beats cog|work over the head with a microkernel |
| 19:09.46 | cog|work | ~lart Josh_Borke |
| 19:09.46 | purl | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Josh_Borke's direction, hitting Josh_Borke and sending Josh_Borke flying into the closet |
| 19:09.53 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 19:09.57 | Josh_Borke | two can play this game |
| 19:09.58 | Lunessa | They're really serious about that "No computers" thing. I guess they're trying to protect code. |
| 19:11.30 | d2x2959 | can someone help me with how to change a texture on the artwork layer? |
| 19:12.01 | Josh_Borke | myTexture:SetTexture(<new texture stuff here>) |
| 19:12.09 | Josh_Borke | you only set the layer once |
| 19:12.18 | d2x2959 | i tried this, but it does not change it |
| 19:12.46 | d2x2959 | myTexture here, how do i get it? i used local frame = getglobal("Texturename"); |
| 19:13.00 | d2x2959 | is a texture a frame? |
| 19:13.48 | Xuerian | d2x2959: Named UI elements can be accessed simply with Name. Look at the regions section of www.wowiki.com/Widget_API |
| 19:14.18 | d2x2959 | hm, thats nice, thanks |
| 19:15.19 | Valaron|Work | It's wowwiki |
| 19:15.26 | Xuerian | erp |
| 19:15.28 | Xuerian | Yeah, typo :p |
| 19:15.38 | Xuerian | www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 19:15.55 | d2x2959 | ^^ |
| 19:17.27 | d2x2959 | yay, now it works, thanks |
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| 19:32.12 | cog|work | I think on some patch day, they should have the roof of the inn in westfall fixed... and then have some world event that destroys it again >< |
| 19:32.37 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 19:32.40 | TS|Skrom | My friend said to me the other day "after all this time working on that roof you think they'd have it done' |
| 19:33.02 | cog|work | TS|Skrom: the most common response involves union labor |
| 19:33.27 | TS|Skrom | Things have definately gone downhill since the masons went underground |
| 19:33.43 | Lunessa | Hey, there's a kid in Outlands who references how long it's taking for them to fix that bridge in Lakeshire. |
| 19:33.50 | cog|work | Outland |
| 19:34.07 | Lunessa | ... *shrugs* |
| 19:34.32 | Lunessa | Fingers make typos faster than I proofread. :P |
| 19:35.53 | cog|work | If they ever have a blizzcon in Europe, they should get Alizee for the concert ;) |
| 19:36.24 | Lunessa | So she can show off the NE wiggle in person? |
| 19:36.41 | Lunessa | I wonder if she knows she was parodied? |
| 19:38.18 | zenzelezz | who cares, free PR |
| 19:39.03 | Lunessa | Curiosity killed the cat, and piqued my mind. |
| 19:39.31 | zenzelezz | besides, she's f'in hot |
| 19:40.07 | Industrial | cog|work: :P~~~~~ |
| 19:40.33 | cog|work | drooling? |
| 19:40.42 | Lunessa | ... She's hot. Too bad she's French and not available. |
| 19:41.26 | Industrial | yeah if there would ever be an EU blizzcon PLEASE NOT IN FRANCE but the UK |
| 19:41.26 | zenzelezz | I don't mind the French part, but yeah, shame she's taken |
| 19:41.43 | zenzelezz | I actually had a French girl as my English teacher, pretty cute accent |
| 19:42.32 | Lunessa | I don't mind her being French. I just don't want to woo her in France. Too many Parisians. |
| 19:42.42 | Industrial | oo mr senseles wat are juu duuingg (allo allo accent) |
| 19:43.00 | zenzelezz | nah, was nothing like Alló Alló |
| 19:44.05 | Industrial | :p |
| 19:50.38 | Kyahx | http://tinyurl.com/27gygs -- Google Maps : Note Direction #63 |
| 19:50.49 | zenzelezz | but I do remember one thing... we got two marks in that English class, one for written and one for oral... I was 17 at the time, and she once commented that I needed to "work on my oral mark"... never looked at her the same again |
| 19:51.47 | Bejitt | "Swim across the Atlantic Ocean |
| 19:51.48 | Bejitt | Entering Brazil |
| 19:51.50 | Bejitt | hahaha |
| 19:52.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure that's one way for the software to not flip our when going between countries |
| 19:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | out* |
| 19:53.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know why it wouldn't send you through mexico and stuff too though |
| 19:53.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | you'd think it would have swimming be the absolute last option |
| 19:54.35 | Bejitt | maybe they tried to minimize the amount of border crossings? |
| 19:54.52 | Bejitt | well, no, you would have been told to swim the entire way |
| 19:57.06 | Kyahx | Hmm, so I just bought a new moniter a week or so ago, and now I'm running stuff at 1680x1050, which my hardware is chokeing on a bit. Trying to decide if my GPU is the bottleneck, or my 400mhz RAM :( |
| 19:57.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | swim around the west, down below through the strait of magellan, and back up around |
| 19:57.57 | Kyahx | Do I just deal with it for now, and build an entirely new PC next summer...or do I buy a cheap GeForce 8500, hmmmm |
| 19:58.23 | cog|work | Kyahx: if a geforce 8500 is an upgrade, then your bottleneck is definitely your video card... |
| 19:58.32 | Kyahx | I have an 6800 ATM |
| 19:58.34 | Josh_Borke | Kyahx: quit your bitching |
| 19:58.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probably RAM or another factor Kyah |
| 19:58.40 | Josh_Borke | i have a geforce 4200 with sdram |
| 19:58.44 | Kyahx | :P I don't know if it would be an upgrade thou |
| 19:58.55 | Kyahx | if my RAM is my real problem, then its new PC or bust |
| 19:59.02 | cog|work | Kyahx: i had a 6800 and got about 30fps at 1280x1024 |
| 19:59.04 | Valaron|Work | I have a 6800 at 1680x1050, and it's running fine. |
| 19:59.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm waiting a bit to get a new pc |
| 19:59.28 | Josh_Borke | i have a 4200 and get 30fps and 1280x1024 |
| 19:59.45 | Kyahx | Valaron|Work: do you have DDR 400 ram? or newer |
| 19:59.50 | cog|work | with full settings |
| 19:59.57 | Josh_Borke | with worst settings :-D |
| 20:00.04 | Kyahx | heh |
| 20:00.11 | Valaron|Work | Hmm.. I have 2Gb of PC3200. 533Mhz |
| 20:00.26 | d2x2959 | GF6600 1024x768+AA - 60fps |
| 20:00.38 | Kyahx | I get 60fps at that low res too :P |
| 20:00.56 | Kyahx | The card im looking at has 512mb onboard RAM thou, vs 256 on my current cart |
| 20:01.00 | d2x2959 | i like low res+AA more than highres without |
| 20:01.06 | Kyahx | which I think would make up for my slower system ram |
| 20:01.16 | Kyahx | d2x2959: low resses look like shit on an LCD |
| 20:01.25 | Kyahx | I don't have a choice really but to run at native res |
| 20:01.58 | Lunessa | ... I need to new MoBo - need to get off AGP and onto PCIe |
| 20:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 20:02.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | level 70 etc is awesome |
| 20:03.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 20:03.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahahha it spotlights for the guitar solo |
| 20:05.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was epic |
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| 20:12.59 | art3mis | i have a x1950xl and get around 40fps(average) at 1680x1050 |
| 20:13.05 | art3mis | never seen it drop before 30 |
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| 20:14.29 | Kyahx | eh I get an average of 30-40 in outlands, I die in shatt, don't know |
| 20:14.51 | Kyahx | its really not a problem in wow really, HL2 is where I get in trouble when its no smooth :P |
| 20:15.35 | cog|work | I get better FPS in HL2 than I do in the outland... |
| 20:16.07 | cog|work | 110fps on the ep1 graphics test |
| 20:16.12 | art3mis | i lurv the radeons mainly because they have consistently shown on larger res's to be great |
| 20:16.23 | Kyahx | I can't do ATI, linux |
| 20:16.32 | cog|work | I hate radeons for pretty much every other reason |
| 20:16.35 | Kyahx | that could be problem with HL2 as well :P |
| 20:16.36 | art3mis | on 1280x they rent really that good but in 1680 wide they rock |
| 20:16.48 | art3mis | kyah: what distro ya using? |
| 20:16.54 | deltron | I love my 8600 gts |
| 20:16.59 | Kyahx | Ubuntu 7.04 |
| 20:17.03 | cog|work | Radeons don't play well in windowed mode on windows |
| 20:17.07 | Kyahx | and vanilla wine |
| 20:17.11 | art3mis | cog: heh yeah i only run full wide so they're perfet for me |
| 20:17.16 | art3mis | yes they do |
| 20:17.21 | art3mis | mine plays awesome |
| 20:17.39 | art3mis | there are certain cards that dont mind you |
| 20:17.45 | art3mis | i wont make the blanket statement ;P |
| 20:17.45 | Kyahx | then again, the card im looking at is only $125, so I should probley just go for it :P |
| 20:17.51 | Kyahx | I have an extra PCIx16 slot anyways... |
| 20:19.02 | art3mis | ive been biased against nvidia since the tnt2's |
| 20:19.07 | art3mis | hated those friggin cards |
| 20:20.32 | Kyahx | I've been against ATI since the rage cards :P |
| 20:20.33 | deltron | I had a tnt2 ultra |
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| 20:20.39 | deltron | then I went to the radeon 9600 |
| 20:20.43 | deltron | back to nvidia |
| 20:20.55 | Kyahx | as soon as ATI can write some decent drivers, I'll consider them |
| 20:21.05 | deltron | yap |
| 20:21.14 | art3mis | they're decent enough IF you dont install the cata stuff ;P |
| 20:21.25 | Kyahx | You obviously don't run linux :) |
| 20:21.31 | art3mis | yup i do |
| 20:21.41 | art3mis | as well |
| 20:21.51 | Kyahx | The ATI propiety drivers are horrible =/ |
| 20:21.54 | art3mis | ive had no probs getting this thing running nice for wine useage |
| 20:22.15 | art3mis | in suse, fedora, mepis, and a few others |
| 20:22.43 | Kyahx | FLGRX preformance isn't even close to the windows equivilent thou |
| 20:22.49 | Kyahx | Just because it works dosent mean its *good* |
| 20:23.33 | art3mis | heh funny storyabout that |
| 20:23.43 | art3mis | i have this junk tester machine at work |
| 20:24.04 | art3mis | had an x300 pci-e in it and i installed linuxxp for something to do with crossover |
| 20:24.20 | art3mis | and it almost ran smoother on that beast than it did on my old ati |
| 20:25.28 | Kyahx | eh, hasn't been my experience =/ |
| 20:25.41 | zenzelezz | you know, people get really surprised if you dump 4000g on them for no apparent reason |
| 20:25.44 | Kyahx | I have a crappy ATI card in my laptop, and ubuntu vs windows preformance is night and day difference |
| 20:26.19 | Lunessa | I would be a little shocked. |
| 20:26.37 | Kyahx | zenzelezz: yea, me too :P |
| 20:30.01 | zenzelezz | "where are the mailboxes in shattrath" "By the inns and inside the banks" "can you be a bit more specific?" |
| 20:30.19 | zenzelezz | that's from a level 70 |
| 20:31.08 | Kyahx | and he can't just ask a guard? |
| 20:31.53 | zenzelezz | I gave up on telling people that when they failed to do that in the old Azeroth capitals |
| 20:36.54 | Lunessa | I don't answer questions about where to find things in a major city. |
| 20:41.43 | cog|work | this day is taking way too long :( |
| 20:42.16 | cog|work | mmmmm.... beeeeer... |
| 20:42.20 | Lunessa | I still have 7 hours left on my shift. |
| 20:42.52 | cog|work | 2.75 here... then shopping, then packing then sleep |
| 20:44.22 | Maldivia | hmm, interesting read, the Exp2 FAQ... lets see how much is real and what's not :) |
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| 22:24.47 | Guillotine | wow. GMs can be such idiots |
| 22:25.22 | Lunessa | ... |
| 22:26.01 | Guillotine | I just reported an inapprpriate name and decded to ask something I've been wondering after. "As I understand it, getting above IF is against the rules and a punishable offense. Is that correct?" "Yes" "Then why is the dwarf in the cinematic doing it?" "If you wish to learn more about our policies, you can visit http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/policy" |
| 22:26.15 | Guillotine | he doesn't even get my point :( |
| 22:29.11 | Lunessa | :facepalm: You mean, harassing the guy making $9/hour was your point? |
| 22:33.19 | d2x2959 | im working on a litte 4 in a row game for wow (screeny http://www.donoboso.com/images/goblinsfour1.jpg ) |
| 22:33.54 | d2x2959 | its a 2 player game, what are your opinions on its look? (not finished yet^^) |
| 22:34.11 | Cide | capitalize the "q" in "quit" |
| 22:34.20 | Cide | center the button |
| 22:34.57 | d2x2959 | ok, im making it to Q, but i wont center it, that place is for text like "your turn" which is not implemented yet.. |
| 22:34.58 | Lunessa | ... Add a visual indicator of which player's move it is. |
| 22:34.59 | Cide | replace the "X" buttons with something more appropriate-looking - GameMenuButtonTemplates don't really work well for that small buttons |
| 22:35.11 | Lunessa | ... snap |
| 22:35.34 | d2x2959 | well its my first addon so the butons will stay as well... |
| 22:36.45 | d2x2959 | my problem is i cant test it yet as its a two player game, so i need 2 accs.... can you use a trial acc with a normal wow installation? |
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| 22:39.51 | Kaso | "In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States. |
| 22:40.06 | Kaso | this doesnt seem good. |
| 22:40.47 | Lysistrata | I don't think there is a rule against it anywhere though it's really bad. |
| 22:41.06 | d2x2959 | i dont think that if there were a ruly the woul mind |
| 22:41.19 | d2x2959 | they would min |
| 22:41.23 | d2x2959 | d |
| 22:41.27 | d2x2959 | arg, to tired |
| 22:43.14 | Guillotine | d2x2959: if you're on US, I can help you test it |
| 22:43.32 | Woll | Is there anyone here with experience customizing UI's that would help me configure one? I'm not a moron, but I am new to this. =P |
| 22:44.52 | Guillotine | Woll: ask your question, don't ask to ask :) |
| 22:44.55 | d2x2959 | nope, europe, but thx |
| 22:45.15 | Woll | Well, I would prefer to talk with someone in vent or something so I can discuss as I go. |
| 22:45.36 | Woll | I pretty much know what I want. I just need to know what all to get and help with how to do it. |
| 22:46.53 | d2x2959 | im going to bed -_-zz hf and thanks for the help |
| 22:47.40 | Lysistrata | Woll it would be useful to know the name of the Addon whcih you'd like to configure. |
| 22:48.03 | Lysistrata | Or what you're looking for ... |
| 22:48.21 | Woll | That's why I was saying vent or something would be nice to discuss. |
| 22:48.46 | Woll | I basically want to start from scratch and make a UI fit for me |
| 22:49.07 | Woll | I have seen a lot of customized ones that I like, but they all have flaws. |
| 22:49.29 | Lunessa | Sorry, this isn't exactly geeksquad or firedog, so your best off hitting up "post your UI" thread for ideas and then seeing what they used. |
| 22:49.30 | Guillotine | w00t! making my for loop work a bit at a time via coroutines worked beautifully XD now it takes 2-3 seconds, but doesn't lag the user at all |
| 22:50.20 | Woll | Okay, I can try to get more specific. I have already looked into all the UI threads. =] |
| 22:50.44 | Woll | I would like a viewport on the bottom with my chat log on the bottom right, skills bottom middle, and combat log on the bottom left. |
| 22:50.50 | Lysistrata | Hmmm I really don't know what's the problem. You know what you need so such go to wowinterface, wowui or some similiar addons an grep a bunch of addons and test it out how to arrange them and stuff most of them are easy but things like Discord Art etc. are a world of its own. |
| 22:51.16 | Lysistrata | Get a Action Bar Mod and Unlock the Chat Window. |
| 22:51.24 | Woll | Okay, here's a starter question: |
| 22:51.26 | Lysistrata | CT Viewport or eePanels I'd guess ... |
| 22:51.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | blonk |
| 22:51.43 | Woll | Does CT viewport get rid of the blizzard UI at the bottom? |
| 22:51.47 | Guillotine | no |
| 22:51.52 | Woll | How do I do that? |
| 22:51.55 | Lysistrata | No but your Action bar Mod probably will. |
| 22:52.09 | Guillotine | whatever action bar mod you use will get rid of it |
| 22:52.09 | Lunessa | Woll - CT_Viewport will resize the world frame to give you a viewport, Sunn Viewport Art, XArt, or Skinner will give you art to go there. |
| 22:52.16 | Woll | I installed discord action bars, but it didn't. |
| 22:52.23 | Woll | I think I will try bartender |
| 22:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | bartender definitely does |
| 22:52.34 | Guillotine | I just started using bartender recently and love it |
| 22:52.35 | Woll | Okay, thanks |
| 22:52.43 | Guillotine | and I use Aperture for my viewport. Simple and does nothing but |
| 22:52.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i really like it guillo |
| 22:53.04 | Guillotine | and you can move the chat there without any mods |
| 22:53.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't like viewport addons but they have their uses |
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| 22:53.16 | Guillotine | my current UI actually doesn't have a viewport |
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| 22:53.18 | Guillotine | but my old one did |
| 22:53.34 | Woll | Do you need omnicc for bartender, or does it have enough options without it? |
| 22:53.45 | Guillotine | there are plenty of options |
| 22:53.47 | Lysistrata | I'm not using a real Viewport I'm just using eePanels and hide whats there :X |
| 22:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's omnicc? |
| 22:54.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | cooldown count or something? |
| 22:54.11 | Woll | yes |
| 22:54.13 | Lunessa | If you want a numeric cooldown timer on the icons, OmniCC or Cooldown Count will do it. |
| 22:54.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use cooldowncount for that, i don't think it's built in |
| 22:54.30 | Lunessa | Bartender 3 does not have that built-in. |
| 22:54.31 | Guillotine | and I'd use cyCircled with BT. Gives some nice looks :) |
| 22:54.47 | Woll | Okay, another opinion to bother you with |
| 22:54.54 | Woll | What unit frames do you prefer working with? |
| 22:55.08 | Guillotine | Grid |
| 22:55.14 | Lysistrata | Most of the time I've been using the standard ones but lately I changed to XPerl ^^ |
| 22:55.18 | Lunessa | I currently use Pitbull and Perfect Raid. |
| 22:55.32 | Guillotine | I just completely hide all default unit frames except my own and use Grid for parties/raids |
| 22:55.50 | Guillotine | as you can see, theres really no right answer :) look around and see which look best to you |
| 22:55.58 | Woll | Yeah, I know |
| 22:56.02 | Woll | Just getting opinions =] |
| 22:56.21 | Guillotine | I used PitBull and loved it, but just couldn't find a layout I liked for 25-mans |
| 22:56.40 | Woll | Yeah, I heard grid is the "best" for raids |
| 22:56.53 | Guillotine | thats what I think. <3 Grid+Clique |
| 22:57.11 | Guillotine | Woll: what class are you? |
| 22:57.19 | Lysistrata | Is grid really just a grid as the name implies or does it have a bit more? |
| 22:57.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a raid frame iirc |
| 22:57.29 | Guillotine | it has more |
| 22:57.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | with click casting among other things |
| 22:57.37 | [dRaCo] | it's a grid... customizable, but a grid ^^" |
| 22:57.38 | Woll | I am a warrior. |
| 22:57.52 | Lysistrata | Ah OK |
| 22:58.08 | Woll | I am going for a more universal UI, but I am gonna focus it towards my warrior. |
| 22:58.24 | Lysistrata | Maybe I should have look at it ... I was thinking about changing to a "almost no Unit Frame" config so it might be cool. |
| 22:58.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | pitbull's pretty good for everything |
| 22:58.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | (except raid frames at the moment) |
| 22:58.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that'll be fixed soon i'm sure |
| 22:58.59 | Lysistrata | Most UIs are pretty general as there isn't that much what really varies IMO. |
| 22:59.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it kinda bogs down some machines in raid situations if you tell it to use raid frames |
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| 22:59.16 | Thelyna | Mr_Rabies2: the aura unit is also bugged |
| 22:59.19 | [dRaCo] | pitbull's raid frames work fine for me |
| 22:59.33 | Thelyna | ever tried to play AV with the entire lower half of your screen greyed out? |
| 22:59.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | aura unit, Thelyna? |
| 22:59.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhh yeah |
| 22:59.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that happens to me sometimes |
| 22:59.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the aura plugin? |
| 22:59.55 | Guillotine | for a warrior, pitbull might actually be better. I found it harder to see everyone's health/mana like that, but the way it shows everyone's targets and who their damaging is great |
| 23:00.36 | [dRaCo] | raid targets are pretty weird in a 25 man |
| 23:00.46 | Guillotine | use PitBull_Singular |
| 23:00.50 | Guillotine | gets rid of all duplicates |
| 23:00.58 | Guillotine | wait... |
| 23:01.01 | Guillotine | did I ever release that |
| 23:01.08 | [dRaCo] | never seen it ^^ |
| 23:01.15 | Guillotine | hehe. never uploaded it |
| 23:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't use the raid frames at all really |
| 23:01.26 | Guillotine | it doesn't actually get rid of them (it can't) but it makes it see through |
| 23:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i do i pull out the priests, warriors, and druids |
| 23:01.33 | Guillotine | completely |
| 23:01.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can innervate or throw out emergency heals |
| 23:01.54 | [dRaCo] | i dont use raid targets... mttargets are enough for me |
| 23:02.14 | Guillotine | yah, thats why I like grid. I'm not healing much, but when I do have to switch out and heal/innervate, its nice to be able to see the frames |
| 23:02.21 | Guillotine | yet its pretty compact |
| 23:02.35 | Guillotine | also, I can put in custom squares for things like overload so I can yell at people when they get it |
| 23:03.18 | [dRaCo] | just push your ts button and cry something like "oh noes, you r teh overload!" |
| 23:03.25 | [dRaCo] | works. every single time. |
| 23:04.02 | Woll | Have you ever worked with ag_unitframes? Or is pitbull more recommended? |
| 23:04.13 | [dRaCo] | I used aguf before |
| 23:04.39 | [dRaCo] | switched to pitbull since it had more options |
| 23:04.52 | Woll | That's what I needed to know. =] Thx |
| 23:04.52 | [dRaCo] | more customizable n stuff |
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| 23:05.51 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 23:06.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | pitbull can look just like aguf if you set it up right |
| 23:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it has a lot more looks and stuff |
| 23:06.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty awesome |
| 23:06.38 | [dRaCo] | most of that stuff is pretty useless for warriors |
| 23:06.55 | [dRaCo] | interact lines might be useful, though. |
| 23:07.05 | Woll | I have a pally too! He's a work in progress though. |
| 23:07.19 | Woll | Is skinner part of another mod? I'm not finding it. |
| 23:07.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | how does interact lines work? i turned it off because the idea seemed kinda dumb at the time :X |
| 23:07.48 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 23:07.51 | Lunessa | Skinner is a AddOn of its own |
| 23:08.26 | [dRaCo] | Woll: http://files.wowace.com/Skinner/Skinner-r45444.zip |
| 23:08.32 | Woll | ty |
| 23:08.46 | buu | Hrm. |
| 23:08.52 | buu | How do you make a macro that does two things at the same time? |
| 23:08.59 | [dRaCo] | Mr_Rabies2: show weird lines, never used it ^^" |
| 23:09.17 | buu | A line in the macro rather. |
| 23:09.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | like what, buu |
| 23:09.30 | [dRaCo] | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:10.02 | buu | [dRaCo]: /cast [mounted] dismount; stopmacro |
| 23:10.20 | [dRaCo] | not possible, afaik |
| 23:10.30 | buu | Really? |
| 23:10.55 | [dRaCo] | but /cast [mounted] dismount; /stopmacro [nomounted] should work |
| 23:11.06 | buu | But I want: |
| 23:11.38 | buu | /cast [mounted] dismount; stopmacro /cast [flyable] flying mount; /cast [noflyable] summon dreadsteed |
| 23:12.06 | [dRaCo] | uh |
| 23:12.12 | Wobin | There's a good mount macro on the wiki |
| 23:12.20 | buu | Any particular place? |
| 23:12.27 | Wobin | er, the macro page =) |
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| 23:14.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | you don't need stopmacro O_o |
| 23:14.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | just /cast [mounted] dismount; [flyable] flying mount; [noflyable] summon dreadsteed |
| 23:15.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 23:15.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
| 23:15.52 | buu | No. |
| 23:15.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast [flyable,nomounted] flying mount; [noflyable,nomounted] summon dreadsteed |
| 23:16.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | /dismount [mounted] |
| 23:16.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | may wanna put the dismount line first |
| 23:16.53 | Bejitt | works w/ /dismount before the /cast, and you dont need the conditional |
| 23:17.10 | buu | Hrm |
| 23:17.16 | buu | Tricksy. |
| 23:17.44 | Bejitt | /use [flyable] Reins of the Cobalt Netherwing Drake; Stormpike Battle Charger |
| 23:17.49 | buu | So the 3 second cast time will prevent the [mounted] from triggering.. |
| 23:17.54 | Bejitt | that's all i use after the /dismount |
| 23:18.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's |
| 23:18.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cancelform [stance] |
| 23:18.48 | buu | Bejitt: You have /dismount /cast Stormpike Battle Charger ? |
| 23:18.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | /dismount [mounted] |
| 23:19.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast [nostance,noflyable] Black War Steed Bridle |
| 23:19.10 | Bejitt | /dismount <newline> /use [flyable] Reins of the Cobalt Netherwing Drake; Stormpike Battle Charger |
| 23:19.21 | Bejitt | works like a charm |
| 23:19.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast [nostance,flyable] Swift Flight Form |
| 23:19.42 | Bejitt | and #show [flyable] Reins of the Cobalt Netherwing Drake; Stormpike Battle Charger <-- to show the right icon |
| 23:19.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | or just #showtooltip |
| 23:19.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | with no modifiers |
| 23:20.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it'll work depending on which it's gonna cast |
| 23:20.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | or #show |
| 23:20.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | either or |
| 23:20.35 | Bejitt | ah true |
| 23:20.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | no modifiers are necessary |
| 23:20.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | they should just have a little show icon/tooltip checkbox thing if you use the ? icon |
| 23:21.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you don't have to type it and you don't have to waste precious macro space :[ |
| 23:21.18 | buu | Bejitt: How does that not dismount you and then start summoning your horse? |
| 23:23.11 | Thunder_Child | http://www.flickr.com/photos/quaelin/168374213/ |
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| 23:42.18 | Shirik | i.e., when it auto-reconnects and I tell it to connect, we just cancel each other out >.> |
| 23:42.35 | [dRaCo] | turn off auto-reconnect ;þ |
| 23:43.22 | Shirik | I like it |
| 23:44.06 | [dRaCo] | so do I |
| 23:44.30 | Shirik | ack wtf |
| 23:44.35 | Shirik | emergency maintenance on my server |
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| 23:44.39 | Shirik | my server doens't even have any people! |
| 23:45.03 | Shirik | oh I will be at work during that time anyway |
| 23:45.03 | Shirik | oh well |
| 23:45.22 | Corrodias | my mouse's right button is wearing out. :( |
| 23:45.34 | Corrodias | i have to hold it hard or it think it's released |
| 23:45.54 | Thrae | Anyone have a TortoiseSVN config file they can pastey for me? Mine has disappeared. |
| 23:46.20 | buu | Oh, hey |
| 23:46.30 | buu | All healthstones have different names, right? |
| 23:46.58 | Corrodias | they have different -amounts-... |
| 23:48.47 | Shirik | they have config files? |
| 23:48.53 | Shirik | I... can give you mine I guess |
| 23:48.55 | Shirik | if you tell me where it is |
| 23:49.47 | Thrae | Shirik: In the TSVN menu, go to Settings, then under the General tab (which is opened automatically), click 'Edit'. |
| 23:51.30 | Shirik | explorer hates me >.> |
| 23:52.22 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:52.25 | Shirik | it appears to be all comments |
| 23:52.26 | Shirik | still want it? |
| 23:52.50 | Thrae | Shirik: That's fine, gimmie |
| 23:53.56 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/71705 |
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| 23:56.44 | Thrae | Shirik: Thanks |
| 23:56.47 | Shirik | np |
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