| 00:01.11 | Matrix110 | starts now |
| 00:01.12 | Matrix110 | it seems |
| 00:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Fitting announcer |
| 00:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Too bad that didn't work at all |
| 00:02.22 | Tem|Work | wtf |
| 00:02.24 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 00:02.27 | Matrix110 | Leeroy Oo |
| 00:02.28 | Tem|Work | is it the real leeroy? |
| 00:02.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 00:03.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:03.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That was epi |
| 00:03.10 | ScytheBlade1 | +c |
| 00:03.26 | Tem|Work | sigh |
| 00:03.38 | Tem|Work | this foreign retard can't even speak engrish |
| 00:03.52 | ScytheBlade1 | He's a native German |
| 00:04.01 | Tem|Work | I would have _never_ guessed |
| 00:04.26 | Tem|Work | I want to hear him yell LEEROY! |
| 00:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Same |
| 00:04.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:04.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Mic ftw? |
| 00:04.50 | Matrix110 | lol.... |
| 00:04.54 | Tem|Work | lol @ mics |
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| 00:05.33 | Tem|Work | ooh, they get s2 now |
| 00:06.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ driver issues |
| 00:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Mage isntead of warlock |
| 00:06.58 | Tem|Work | yay |
| 00:07.06 | Tem|Work | I think the team with the mage is going to win |
| 00:07.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I hope :/ |
| 00:07.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Warlock ftl |
| 00:07.26 | Tem|Work | mages are much better at CCing in arena that mages |
| 00:07.35 | Tem|Work | s/that mages/than locks/ |
| 00:08.17 | Matrix110 | new observer system |
| 00:08.19 | Matrix110 | uhhhh |
| 00:08.20 | Tem|Work | and it's a harder nut to crack of they go for the mage |
| 00:09.36 | Tem|Work | LOL |
| 00:09.40 | ScytheBlade1 | That was also epic. |
| 00:09.43 | Tem|Work | that is EXACTLY how I feel about 5v5 |
| 00:09.44 | bleeter | observer, ie remote camera kinda thing? |
| 00:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 00:09.53 | ScytheBlade1 | It's documented on the forums |
| 00:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | But not accessible to us |
| 00:09.57 | bleeter | sweet, been wondering 'bout that |
| 00:10.11 | bleeter | particularly given the mac recording foo |
| 00:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 00:10.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:12.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Just skip the bracket |
| 00:12.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Show us the ganking |
| 00:14.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Surprise |
| 00:14.22 | ScytheBlade1 | More problems! |
| 00:14.36 | Tem|Work | lol |
| 00:14.41 | Tem|Work | don't make the idiots run it |
| 00:14.48 | Tem|Work | or if you do, make them practice the day before |
| 00:15.16 | Industrial | I want public channel and vicinity ingame voice. |
| 00:15.19 | Tem|Work | I blame the asian |
| 00:16.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ his face |
| 00:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ...... |
| 00:16.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ...... |
| 00:17.25 | Tem|Work | god he's such a retard |
| 00:17.47 | Tem|Work | I HATE blade's edge |
| 00:17.51 | Tem|Work | the lock team wins now |
| 00:18.08 | Tem|Work | DoTs + los = mage loses |
| 00:18.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a nice interface |
| 00:18.20 | Matrix110 | woot they use MODS |
| 00:18.29 | Matrix110 | thats not the default ui |
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| 00:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the observer UI |
| 00:19.06 | Matrix110 | well i mean the unitframes |
| 00:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Note how they're switching view over and over |
| 00:19.13 | Matrix110 | i know |
| 00:19.13 | ScytheBlade1 | From player to player |
| 00:19.19 | Matrix110 | but i mean they dont use default wow unitframes |
| 00:19.27 | Matrix110 | (because they suck) |
| 00:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | We can't see their unitframes though, just the commentator's |
| 00:19.40 | Matrix110 | ye |
| 00:19.46 | Tem|Work | ohs hit |
| 00:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | There we are |
| 00:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Default UI |
| 00:19.51 | Tem|Work | they're focusing the mage? |
| 00:19.54 | Matrix110 | now |
| 00:19.58 | Matrix110 | they must use default ui |
| 00:20.00 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 00:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like additions for arena |
| 00:20.53 | Matrix110 | maybe these are the new UFs from the default Ui sometime |
| 00:21.03 | Tem|Work | mmm, that's fun |
| 00:21.12 | Tem|Work | frost mage > warlock with no priest |
| 00:21.14 | Tem|Work | <# |
| 00:21.16 | Tem|Work | <3 |
| 00:21.45 | ScytheBlade1 | 5v2 |
| 00:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | 5v1 |
| 00:21.58 | Tem|Work | I'm surprized they left the warrior up so long |
| 00:21.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Game! |
| 00:22.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, arena UI |
| 00:22.29 | Matrix110 | Damage Done Damage Taken Healing Done Healing Taken |
| 00:23.51 | Tem|Work | I wonder if that is a new feature coming to us or if that's unique for their tournaments |
| 00:24.26 | Matrix110 | its unique |
| 00:24.44 | Matrix110 | they said it somewhere already about the arena Ui they used in hamburg |
| 00:24.53 | Tem|Work | well yeah |
| 00:24.58 | Tem|Work | for the commentator stuff |
| 00:25.04 | Tem|Work | but not for the summary UI |
| 00:25.08 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 00:25.14 | Matrix110 | summary could get in |
| 00:27.50 | Tem|Work | BAM |
| 00:27.55 | Tem|Work | victory for the opposing mage |
| 00:28.11 | Tem|Work | god I love this mage |
| 00:28.16 | Tem|Work | he's annoying the piss out of their warrior |
| 00:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol that was fast |
| 00:29.59 | Tem|Work | mage victory |
| 00:30.07 | Tem|Work | I swear that mage won that fight for them |
| 00:30.14 | Tem|Work | he controlled the PISS out of the warrior |
| 00:30.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Mages _are_ epic |
| 00:30.25 | Tem|Work | polymorph + detect magic |
| 00:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I love doing that |
| 00:30.54 | Tem|Work | me too |
| 00:30.57 | Matrix110 | its playing GCD vs GCD |
| 00:31.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Basically |
| 00:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:31.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Poor Slouken |
| 00:31.37 | ScytheBlade1 | He's going to hear about that |
| 00:31.39 | Tem|Work | not necesarily |
| 00:31.46 | Tem|Work | he's actually not the UI guy at all |
| 00:31.49 | ScytheBlade1 | "Reload your UI" |
| 00:31.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, he's the only one who really talks with the people :) |
| 00:32.03 | ScytheBlade1 | And isn't he senior in management? |
| 00:32.15 | Tem|Work | afaik, he's in spells and cool stuff like that |
| 00:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 00:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | A: We are doing another 25 man raid dungeon, and there will be 6 bosses, and will have better than Tier 6 gear available in BT, so very nifty stuff. They are also considering another 5 man before Lich King SWEET!! |
| 00:33.23 | Tem|Work | oh yay |
| 00:33.37 | Tem|Work | lol fail @ the asian guyh |
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| 00:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:36.00 | ScytheBlade1 | "Oh he's a mage" |
| 00:36.05 | ScytheBlade1 | "I'm retarded, I'm sorry" |
| 00:36.06 | Tem|Work | lol yup |
| 00:36.11 | Tem|Work | focus on the guy who raped you last time |
| 00:37.09 | Tem|Work | fuck you warlock |
| 00:37.12 | Tem|Work | fuck you and your banish |
| 00:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lol it's true |
| 00:37.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ warrior going for mage |
| 00:37.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll never happen |
| 00:37.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Nooooo |
| 00:38.03 | Tem|Work | heh |
| 00:38.37 | Tem|Work | honestly, that was a good call by their team |
| 00:38.41 | Tem|Work | that mage beat them last time |
| 00:38.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 00:38.50 | Tem|Work | but it took them too long to do it |
| 00:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Even at that though - mage for a priest |
| 00:38.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 00:39.20 | Tem|Work | okay time for me to head out |
| 00:39.22 | Tem|Work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:40.29 | Kaso | So who wrote that UI the comentators were using, it doesnt seem blizzard's style |
| 00:41.14 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL YES |
| 00:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | BLAME LAG |
| 00:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 00:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | UI mods are a huge part, they will add a threat meter into the game! They are also talking about adding a Deadly Boss Mods element into the game |
| 00:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay again! That will definitely help" |
| 00:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Booo |
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| 00:44.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Built in threat meter AND DBM |
| 00:46.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And Item Rack |
| 00:46.43 | Matrix110 | well |
| 00:46.45 | Matrix110 | it will suck |
| 00:46.46 | Matrix110 | anyway |
| 00:46.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus, apparently, either gear bags or junk bags |
| 00:46.49 | Matrix110 | we know that already |
| 00:46.50 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 00:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | We do? |
| 00:47.19 | Matrix110 | what that blizzard added to the ui didnt suck so far? |
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| 00:47.50 | ScytheBlade1 | We already knew that they're adding a threat meter, boss mods, and item rack to the game? |
| 00:47.55 | bleeter | name one UI that doesn't suck |
| 00:48.11 | bleeter | or has 0 suckage |
| 00:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | fack, bbl |
| 00:48.26 | bleeter | cya ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:48.55 | Matrix110 | well its not about perfectness but the way blizzard implemented alot of things are kinda....fucked |
| 00:49.51 | Corrodias | mine |
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| 00:50.20 | Shirik | bleeter: Package? |
| 00:50.46 | Corrodias | my UI is pure unsuckness. in general. |
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| 00:56.37 | Corrodias | never knew LSD was good for -that- |
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| 01:05.41 | foxlit | "they're adding a threat meter ... to the game?" |
| 01:05.45 | foxlit | woah? |
| 01:05.52 | Shirik | are you serious? |
| 01:05.55 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:06.21 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1 said that |
| 01:06.21 | Shirik | if they do, I seriously think a lot of people will be very annoyed |
| 01:06.21 | Shirik | even those that use KTM |
| 01:07.13 | foxlit | I'd actually expect them to block KTM |
| 01:10.09 | foxlit | Could probably accomplish that by locking down the combatlog api somewhat, preventing Lua from ever getting the exact hit/crit numbers, instead requiring it to pass format strings for specific events |
| 01:10.09 | Kaso | How can they block it though? i mean without killing every addon that monitors combat logs ever |
| 01:11.05 | foxlit | So, C goes "Hey, You hit something, how do you want me to display that?" Addon goes: "Add that event to this frame, using this format string", C adds the formatted text |
| 01:11.43 | Kaso | that allows addons that display combat data, but what about the great many that use the data, damage meters and the like |
| 01:12.16 | foxlit | Damage meters are essentially threat meters without a few multipliers anyway |
| 01:13.00 | Kaso | I think killing that whole genre of addons would be a step too far |
| 01:13.07 | Kaso | and the community wouldnt respond well |
| 01:13.22 | foxlit | Community won't like killing threat meters anyway |
| 01:13.50 | foxlit | Damage meters can be fixed by using server to record data, then outputting stats after the raid drops out of combat |
| 01:14.46 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 01:14.49 | Wobin_ | That's just... |
| 01:15.10 | Wobin_ | The whole mechanism of the threat meters is parallel to what blizzard provides |
| 01:15.29 | Wobin_ | They can't lock them out without screwing around everything else |
| 01:15.42 | foxlit | Not _everyhing_ else. |
| 01:15.57 | Wobin_ | It's an external framework based on the side effect that information from the combat log defines certain characteristics |
| 01:16.09 | foxlit | So lock down the information passed to you by the combat log |
| 01:16.18 | Wobin_ | You hit the orc for some damage |
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| 01:16.25 | Wobin_ | You hit the orc for some more damage |
| 01:16.37 | Wobin_ | Ooh, this'll go down well =P |
| 01:16.58 | Wobin_ | Or maybe that's too mich |
| 01:16.59 | Wobin_ | much |
| 01:17.05 | Wobin_ | "You hit the orc" |
| 01:17.08 | Wobin_ | "Orc hits you" |
| 01:17.20 | foxlit | "You hit the orc with modifiers" |
| 01:17.26 | Wobin_ | nono, too much info |
| 01:17.31 | Wobin_ | "You might hit the orc" |
| 01:17.45 | Wobin_ | "You swing your weapon in the orc's general direction" |
| 01:18.01 | foxlit | As long as you don't get the numbers, you can't do any real calculations |
| 01:18.16 | Wobin_ | "Orc dies from old age. His DEATH CRY <flash>ECHOS</flash> through the land!" |
| 01:18.24 | Wobin_ | But we need numbers |
| 01:18.31 | Wobin_ | unless we change all stats to words |
| 01:18.31 | Kaso | The threat system as it stands is silly and needed changing in some way, either with what theyve done or with some other way of at least giving outwards signals of your threat |
| 01:18.35 | Wobin_ | Strength: Strong |
| 01:18.38 | Wobin_ | Int: Dumb |
| 01:18.49 | foxlit | You're being needlessly silly |
| 01:18.52 | foxlit | :) |
| 01:19.05 | Wobin_ | How else are they going to block out the threat meters? |
| 01:19.09 | Kaso | this whole," its a dps race but if you do more dps than a arbitary number which you cannot know without addons then you wipe" thing is stupid |
| 01:19.13 | foxlit | scroll up and wonder! |
| 01:19.14 | Wobin_ | if all they're doing is parsing the combat log? |
| 01:19.31 | Wobin_ | if you lock out the combat log from giving information, then people will complain |
| 01:19.38 | Tem | Relatively geared frost mage seeks relatively geared frost mage for 2v2 team. PST |
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| 01:19.46 | foxlit | foxlit: Could probably accomplish that by locking down the combatlog api somewhat, preventing Lua from ever getting the exact hit/crit numbers, instead requiring it to pass format strings for specific events |
| 01:19.46 | foxlit | [03:10] Kaso: How can they block it though? i mean without killing every addon that monitors combat logs ever |
| 01:19.46 | foxlit | [03:11] foxlit: So, C goes "Hey, You hit something, how do you want me to display that?" Addon goes: "Add that event to this frame, using this format string", C adds the formatted text |
| 01:20.20 | Wobin_ | You hit the orc for LOTS |
| 01:20.25 | Tem | foxlit, what are you guys talking about? |
| 01:20.27 | Wobin_ | People are still going to complain =P |
| 01:20.39 | foxlit | People will complain if you block their easymode addons anyway |
| 01:20.40 | Wobin_ | They want to know how hard they hit the damn orc, even if they're not using a threatmeter |
| 01:20.51 | Tem | oh, breaking threatmeters? |
| 01:20.51 | foxlit | "zomg, no, we can't do our jobs without decursive!" |
| 01:20.54 | foxlit | Yes |
| 01:20.56 | Tem | yeah, not happening |
| 01:21.02 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:21.08 | Shirik | too bad I missed that conversation |
| 01:21.08 | foxlit | It's perfectly doable :) |
| 01:21.10 | Shirik | it looked interesting |
| 01:21.17 | Wobin_ | Doable, sure |
| 01:21.18 | Tem | foxlit, sure, but it's still not happening |
| 01:21.19 | Wobin_ | Smart? |
| 01:21.20 | Wobin_ | Not |
| 01:21.20 | Shirik | "You hit the Orc." "You might hit the Orc." "You hit the Orc harder." |
| 01:21.40 | foxlit | Wobin_: they'll still know how hard they hit the orc |
| 01:21.43 | Wobin_ | Blizzard are not going to shoot themselves in the foot for "some damage" =) |
| 01:21.51 | foxlit | Wobin_: the only difference is that their ADDONS won't. |
| 01:21.59 | Shirik | they won't block out threat meters |
| 01:22.09 | Shirik | Blizzard's too intelligent to block out the data required by threat meters |
| 01:22.09 | foxlit | Silly them, tbh |
| 01:22.11 | Tem | to my knowledge, they're only making such things _easier_ in the future for threatmeters |
| 01:22.15 | Wobin_ | foxlit: all the addons are doing is parsing information that the player -wants- |
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| 01:22.51 | Wobin_ | If you filter that information into an unsuable format, then everyone will scream bloody "almost killing" |
| 01:23.03 | Tem | however, I'm all for fucking with KTM and others by sending false info on the addon channel |
| 01:23.14 | foxlit | You're saying "Don't remove KTM because people want KTM" |
| 01:23.15 | Shirik | hehehe |
| 01:23.16 | Tem | threat methers are a crutch |
| 01:23.18 | Wobin_ | That's just malicious =P |
| 01:23.20 | Tem | l2p |
| 01:23.22 | Shirik | I hate threat meters |
| 01:23.23 | Shirik | seriously |
| 01:23.25 | Wobin_ | And fairly easy to work around |
| 01:23.32 | Shirik | But I have to admit they have no real way to block them |
| 01:23.35 | Tem | Wobin_, not if I'm the tank |
| 01:23.36 | Shirik | and you have to admit that too |
| 01:23.45 | Kaso | I hate the threat mechanic, its a lazy way to make encounters seem "difficult" |
| 01:23.49 | Wobin_ | nono, the 'sending of fake info' is easy to work around |
| 01:24.06 | Tem | if the tank sends fake info, you're fucked |
| 01:24.12 | foxlit | I like the though of blocking addons' access to damage dealt data, which would essentially break threat meters. |
| 01:24.16 | Wobin_ | again, it's easy to work around once discovered |
| 01:24.23 | foxlit | well, no |
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| 01:24.39 | Tem | foxlit, but it'd also break my damage meters |
| 01:24.42 | foxlit | You're at best returning to a situation where your tank is basically not running threat meters |
| 01:24.45 | Tem | my epeen wouldn't live through the night |
| 01:24.57 | Wobin_ | and depending on the other dps around the tank to provide the information |
| 01:25.11 | Wobin_ | See? People need NUMBERS |
| 01:25.12 | foxlit | foxlit: Damage meters can be fixed by using server to record data, then outputting stats after the raid drops out of combat |
| 01:25.22 | Wobin_ | foxlit: Too much effort |
| 01:25.30 | foxlit | Worth it? Hell yes. |
| 01:25.32 | Wobin_ | to work around a problem that isn't even an issue |
| 01:25.45 | foxlit | Threat meters are destroying our children, discuss. |
| 01:25.55 | Wobin_ | My child used to go outside to play |
| 01:25.58 | Tem | Death Knights will be OP in arena |
| 01:26.01 | Tem | discuss |
| 01:26.06 | Wobin_ | Now all he does is stand in front of the tank and whine =( |
| 01:26.09 | foxlit | New content sucks, discuss |
| 01:26.49 | foxlit | But basically, nobody "needs" those numbers |
| 01:26.51 | Tem | Unholy Embrace = guaranteed kill on anything but a pally or frost mage |
| 01:27.02 | foxlit | People may "want" them, but they don't "need" them |
| 01:27.15 | Wobin_ | And Blizzard never listens to their userbase |
| 01:27.22 | Wobin_ | after all there aren't that many of them |
| 01:27.25 | Wobin_ | and none of them raid |
| 01:27.42 | Wobin_ | Cause who cares about progression? |
| 01:28.12 | Wobin_ | They're going to be buying the next xpac anyway |
| 01:28.45 | Wobin_ | Nobody "needs" new items or new content |
| 01:28.52 | Wobin_ | They should be happy with the starting areas |
| 01:28.57 | Tem | hmm, I need to reserve a name now |
| 01:29.04 | Wobin_ | They can, after all, grind to 60 on boars |
| 01:29.14 | foxlit | Can't actually do that |
| 01:29.21 | Wobin_ | Sure they can |
| 01:29.24 | Wobin_ | I saw it on Southpark |
| 01:29.29 | Wobin_ | So it must be true |
| 01:29.59 | Wobin_ | Tem: go for some psuedoclever Dragonlance deathknight name =) |
| 01:30.06 | Wobin_ | like Sothos or whatever |
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| 01:30.22 | Tem | I was thinking more along the lines of "Mcdarkness" |
| 01:30.36 | Wobin_ | Would you like to upsize that? |
| 01:30.46 | Tem | lool |
| 01:30.59 | Wobin_ | HappyMeal |
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| 01:32.36 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit, I can link you the page where they said that |
| 01:32.49 | foxlit | gogo :) |
| 01:33.14 | Tem | said what? |
| 01:33.24 | Wobin_ | about the removal of threat meters |
| 01:33.32 | Wobin_ | or the blizzard inspired threat meter |
| 01:33.48 | Wobin_ | which is where the discussion started |
| 01:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Removal? No, just a blizzard released one |
| 01:34.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Along with an itemrack type, possible gear bags, and an intergrated DBM/LV |
| 01:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-blizzcons-dungeons-and-raids-panel/ |
| 01:34.04 | Wobin_ | I'm not sure how we got onto the 'removal' =) |
| 01:34.05 | foxlit | "ScytheBlade1: We already knew that they're adding a threat meter, boss mods, and item rack to the game?" |
| 01:34.16 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit, that was me asking wtf @ someone else who said we already knew that |
| 01:34.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Search that link for "Q: Who fixed the balancing cleave bug" |
| 01:34.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It's that paragraph + a few more |
| 01:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Right after it |
| 01:35.45 | foxlit | ouch, wowinsider is horrible |
| 01:36.08 | ScytheBlade1 | If they're taking that straight from the panel though |
| 01:36.13 | foxlit | editor comments are intermixed with transcription, making it rather evil to discern who's saying what |
| 01:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | The DBM is a possibility |
| 01:36.41 | ScytheBlade1 | The threat meter is a reality, along with the itemrack |
| 01:36.42 | foxlit | DBM is already in the game, tbh |
| 01:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, casting bar |
| 01:36.59 | foxlit | BossWarnings too |
| 01:37.29 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Is that to imply that those will be? |
| 01:37.40 | foxlit | Only thing it is really missing is a time-to-next-event, but that's usually not needed |
| 01:37.50 | Shirik | god I just want to hurt some people at Blizzard |
| 01:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik, "Jeff: we are working on a system on the wow default interface like Outfitter and Item Rack. We can give you real space to store the extra junk." |
| 01:37.53 | foxlit | "UI mods are a huge part, they will add a threat meter into the game! They are also talking about adding a Deadly Boss Mods element into the game |
| 01:37.54 | foxlit | Yay again! That will definitely help" |
| 01:38.09 | foxlit | I have trouble parsing that |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | um |
| 01:38.24 | Shirik | From what foxlit quoted me |
| 01:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | "they /will/ add a threat meter into the game!" |
| 01:38.28 | Shirik | no |
| 01:38.31 | foxlit | "UI mods are a huge part, they will add a threat meter into the game! They are also talking about adding a Deadly Boss Mods element into the game |
| 01:38.32 | foxlit | [ed. Yay again! That will definitely help]" |
| 01:38.33 | Shirik | that quote reads as "UI mods" |
| 01:38.37 | Shirik | will add a threat meter |
| 01:38.50 | foxlit | "will" does not really make sense :/ |
| 01:38.51 | Shirik | unless he is snipping out an earlier sentence that is important |
| 01:38.54 | foxlit | in that context |
| 01:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | So then the "they"? |
| 01:39.03 | foxlit | exclamation mark is questionable |
| 01:39.04 | Shirik | "UI mods" is the subject of that sentence |
| 01:39.04 | ScytheBlade1 | If this is a 3rd party person, "they" is blizzard |
| 01:39.10 | Shirik | so one of three things happened: |
| 01:39.13 | foxlit | "They are also talking" who is also talking? |
| 01:39.14 | Shirik | no, they is UI mods |
| 01:39.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's also the R&D panel, not the UI panel |
| 01:39.17 | Wobin_ | so |
| 01:39.21 | Wobin_ | confusing |
| 01:39.21 | Shirik | "They" always refers to the subject |
| 01:39.30 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 01:39.38 | Shirik | so either someone doesn't know english, a portion of that sentence is missing, or they're talking about UI mods adding the threat meters |
| 01:39.45 | foxlit | UI mods are also talking? |
| 01:39.46 | Shirik | one of those 3 |
| 01:39.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I guess we'll see |
| 01:39.57 | Shirik | Then that falls into the first of my three options |
| 01:39.59 | Shirik | Someone doesn't know english |
| 01:40.21 | Shirik | Unless the they is referring to an earlier sentence, which you left out |
| 01:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's in the link |
| 01:40.39 | Shirik | I can't go to any links |
| 01:40.39 | foxlit | "A: Scott: Fear ward. We are going to do something about FW for the Horde, they are tired of dealing with the imbalance of Fear in instances, so we have to be careful Jeff: we are working on a system on the wow default interface like Outfitter and Item Rack. We can give you real space to store the extra junk. Awesome!" |
| 01:40.42 | Shirik | so I don't click them |
| 01:40.56 | Shirik | oh ffs |
| 01:40.59 | foxlit | I'm guessing that's [ed. Awesome!] again |
| 01:41.00 | Shirik | Shut. Up. |
| 01:41.08 | Shirik | These are nonexistent problems |
| 01:41.14 | ScytheBlade1 | The Jeff: should be on another line |
| 01:41.17 | Shirik | They need to stop making up these problems and let us play the game without changing it |
| 01:41.26 | Shirik | Horde do fine without fear ward, so be it. |
| 01:41.41 | Shirik | Not everyone is supposed to be equal |
| 01:41.50 | Shirik | Otherwise there would be one class that does everything |
| 01:42.01 | Shirik | Everybody has their own strengths and weaknesses |
| 01:42.02 | foxlit | Is there anything that horde has that alliance doesn't have on that order of magnitude? |
| 01:42.11 | Shirik | Blood elf priests are a pretty damn good boost |
| 01:42.21 | Shirik | I still have trouble running out of mana with all those tools at my disposal |
| 01:42.25 | foxlit | They, er, eat their own buffs for mana? |
| 01:42.33 | foxlit | Draenei priests are better anyway |
| 01:42.38 | Shirik | I have 3 emergency moves in the event I need mana |
| 01:42.42 | Shirik | And once I've done that, pop a potion |
| 01:42.47 | Shirik | then innervate |
| 01:42.51 | Shirik | mana spring totem if I'm lucky |
| 01:42.56 | Shirik | By then my cooldowns are up |
| 01:43.20 | foxlit | With the exception of mana tap, alliance can do most of the same things |
| 01:43.26 | foxlit | How good is mana tap at 70? |
| 01:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh screw it |
| 01:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll post it on the UI boards :P |
| 01:43.46 | Shirik | not quite sure. I never arcane torrent and immediately heal |
| 01:44.00 | sysrage | i assume you guys are pulling this stuff from that blizzcon live feed thing? or is it posted somewhere? |
| 01:44.04 | Shirik | I follow the 5SR as closely as I can. Unlike most priests (and btw, this is why everyone says priests can't heal right now) |
| 01:44.08 | Shirik | I think |
| 01:44.11 | foxlit | 161mana/charge |
| 01:44.15 | Shirik | Instead of trying to be a healbot |
| 01:44.24 | ScytheBlade1 | sysrage, http://wowi.pastey.net/71778 <-- excerpt of the discussion |
| 01:44.30 | sysrage | cool thanks |
| 01:44.44 | Shirik | I am just so damn sick of "balancing" |
| 01:44.49 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-blizzcons-dungeons-and-raids-panel/ |
| 01:44.57 | sysrage | err uh |
| 01:44.58 | foxlit | Was the original link |
| 01:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit, that's what I copied it from |
| 01:45.07 | foxlit | Yeah :) |
| 01:45.08 | sysrage | 2 lines isn't what i was looking for :P |
| 01:45.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Then click foxlit's link :) |
| 01:45.31 | sysrage | heh thanks |
| 01:46.01 | foxlit | Totems are probably more interesting fear counters anyway |
| 01:46.14 | Shirik | and there's another thing that didn't need to be balanced |
| 01:46.17 | foxlit | But hey, I don't mind horde priests getting fear ward as well. |
| 01:46.41 | Shirik | Sure, I'd love to have it over touch of weakness, yey |
| 01:46.46 | Shirik | But ... I don't need it |
| 01:46.59 | foxlit | You don't, your MT wouldn't mind |
| 01:47.13 | Shirik | I "wouldn't mind" either |
| 01:47.18 | Shirik | but does he need it? |
| 01:47.19 | Shirik | no |
| 01:47.25 | Shirik | If he does need it, he doesn't deserve to be a tank |
| 01:47.42 | foxlit | some fears are faster than rage cooldown? |
| 01:47.50 | Shirik | Instances are not created intended to be reliant on racials |
| 01:47.55 | Shirik | get feared every once in a while |
| 01:48.00 | Shirik | big deal, have a challenge |
| 01:48.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik, sounds like a normalization issue. :) |
| 01:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | (I used "the word") |
| 01:48.21 | Shirik | I mean, I play the game to do something hard |
| 01:48.37 | Shirik | well, to challenge at least |
| 01:48.51 | foxlit | And? FW deprives you of that challenge? :) |
| 01:48.58 | Shirik | It drops one |
| 01:49.14 | foxlit | Really? Which one? :) |
| 01:49.14 | Shirik | what would shadow labs be without fear, in that second room |
| 01:49.17 | Shirik | it would be nothing |
| 01:49.21 | Shirik | take that, for one example |
| 01:49.27 | foxlit | You pull to corridor anyway |
| 01:49.36 | Shirik | that doesn't stop the dude from coming to you |
| 01:49.42 | Tem | woth |
| 01:49.44 | Tem | woah |
| 01:49.44 | Tem | wtf |
| 01:49.45 | Shirik | off the tank and onto a clothie |
| 01:49.48 | Tem | Shirik, |
| 01:49.51 | foxlit | Sure, happens |
| 01:49.54 | Tem | what's the name of the RDX guy? |
| 01:49.57 | Tem | what class does he play? |
| 01:50.05 | Tem | do you know what server he plays on? |
| 01:50.05 | Shirik | eh, which one |
| 01:50.13 | Shirik | Eredar |
| 01:50.16 | Shirik | all of them do |
| 01:50.22 | Shirik | Veni was a warlock |
| 01:50.23 | Tem | okay |
| 01:50.24 | Shirik | Cidan was.... a lot |
| 01:50.32 | Tem | there's a Veni on my server |
| 01:50.33 | Shirik | mostly a pally |
| 01:50.34 | Tem | 70 mage |
| 01:50.36 | Tem | just noticed him |
| 01:50.42 | Shirik | nah, his full name is Venificus, Eredar |
| 01:50.51 | Shirik | though I do know he "quit" |
| 01:50.55 | Shirik | (wouldn't be surprised if he moved) |
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| 01:51.13 | Shirik | afaik veni still maintains RDX |
| 01:51.39 | Shirik | But it doesn't matter! RDX will soon be a thing of the past |
| 01:52.13 | Shirik | When conspiracy comes out, people will flock to it like rednecks on the first day of hunting season |
| 01:52.15 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 01:52.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol wow |
| 01:52.57 | ScytheBlade1 | The "Stream is going!" thread on general is on part 7 |
| 01:53.06 | ScytheBlade1 | So that's six threads capped at 500 posts fille |
| 01:53.08 | ScytheBlade1 | +d |
| 02:01.22 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, the what? |
| 02:01.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem, ? |
| 02:01.37 | Tem | ScytheBlade1> The "Stream is going!" thread on general is on part 7 |
| 02:02.02 | ScytheBlade1 | There's a thread that was created several hours ago - "Stream is going!" |
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| 02:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | People replied in it to things that happened at that moment on the live video stream |
| 02:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712406177&sid=1 |
| 02:04.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 3000 posts and going isn't bad |
| 02:04.53 | Tem | oh |
| 02:05.16 | Tem | my biggest comment would be "LESS ESPORTS MORE PANELS!" |
| 02:05.22 | ScytheBlade1 | qft |
| 02:06.19 | Tem | but I really enjoyed those arena matches |
| 02:06.27 | Tem | that mage was _good_ |
| 02:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Was great to see |
| 02:06.49 | Tem | but what I can't figure out is why he chose the staff over the mainhand and offhand |
| 02:06.59 | Tem | more +spell more +resil more +stam |
| 02:06.59 | ScytheBlade1 | From what I've heard |
| 02:07.11 | ScytheBlade1 | You can pick any gear at all, TK and lower, plus all S2 gear |
| 02:07.55 | Tem | right |
| 02:11.53 | Shirik | take care guys, storm coming in and being on the phone is not a good idea |
| 02:12.04 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, good luck |
| 02:13.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:13.20 | ScytheBlade1 | and part 8 is go |
| 02:13.20 | ScytheBlade1 | 3500 posts |
| 02:14.34 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, I was the one who told you that =P |
| 02:14.47 | Tem | I'm just curious why people choose the staff over mainhand + offhand |
| 02:14.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Tem, oh, lol |
| 02:14.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry |
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| 02:15.32 | Tem | last time I checked, the sword and book had more SD, resil, stam |
| 02:15.35 | Tem | than the staff |
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| 02:20.24 | tlarson | is it possible to detect whether a target has a buff in a macro? |
| 02:20.50 | Cide | depends on what you want the macro to do. |
| 02:21.09 | tlarson | change the icon |
| 02:21.24 | tlarson | something like [target=pet, buff=Mend Pet] or soemthing |
| 02:21.33 | Cide | no, can't do that |
| 02:21.40 | tlarson | what can you do? |
| 02:22.01 | Cide | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 02:23.01 | tlarson | you said "depends on what you want the macro to do". what did you mean by that? |
| 02:24.15 | Cide | you can't cast a spell depending on whether or not a buff is on the target, but you can, say, print a chat message |
| 02:24.25 | tlarson | how do you do that? |
| 02:24.33 | Cide | be a bit more specific |
| 02:24.47 | tlarson | how do you print a chat message depending on whether or not a buff is on a target |
| 02:24.53 | Cide | when you click the macro? |
| 02:24.57 | tlarson | sure... |
| 02:25.23 | foxlit | Would just be a block of Lua code rather than a macro command |
| 02:25.35 | Cide | yep |
| 02:25.36 | tlarson | ok... |
| 02:25.43 | tlarson | what would it look like? |
| 02:25.51 | foxlit | It'd be ugly :/ |
| 02:25.57 | ScytheBlade1 | tlarson, if you have no lua experience, with this, you're asking someone to do it for you |
| 02:26.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not easy or simple with a macro |
| 02:26.08 | tlarson | i have lua experience |
| 02:26.17 | tlarson | what's the function call? |
| 02:26.24 | Cide | UnitBuff("target", n) |
| 02:26.39 | Cide | where n is an index from 1 to numBuffs |
| 02:26.42 | foxlit | There's no real "does unit have a buff" function, so you have to iterate UnitBuff |
| 02:26.48 | tlarson | not a problem |
| 02:26.49 | Cide | first return value is the buff name |
| 02:26.52 | foxlit | (1 to until you get nil) |
| 02:27.07 | Cide | ya, what foxlit said |
| 02:27.29 | foxlit | - /script i,b=1, false; while(UnitBuff("pet", i)) if UnitBuff("pet, i) == "Mend Pet" then b=true; end i = i + 1; end if b then message("Has Buff"); end |
| 02:27.48 | tlarson | simple enough |
| 02:27.50 | foxlit | ufly |
| 02:27.52 | foxlit | ugly |
| 02:27.58 | tlarson | you cna now replace /script with /run, i believe, right? |
| 02:28.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:28.11 | tlarson | saves on your 255 |
| 02:28.45 | Cide | if you're worried about space you can trim that down a lot |
| 02:28.52 | Cide | but if you don't need it, no reason to |
| 02:29.14 | Cide | just makes it less legible |
| 02:29.14 | Wobin_ | otherwise you'll come back to it later and go omgwtfwasIthinking? |
| 02:30.11 | foxlit | you can save chars by aliasing UnitBuff, probably "pet" |
| 02:30.33 | foxlit | false can be nil, true can be 0 |
| 02:30.42 | Cide | space can be no space |
| 02:30.49 | Cide | semicolon can be no semicolon |
| 02:31.32 | foxlit | while can be for |
| 02:32.52 | foxlit | Or you could just move the whole thing into a separate addon function and call that instead |
| 02:34.07 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.09 | Cide | should work |
| 02:34.34 | Cide | can remove another space between "Has Buff") and end |
| 02:34.40 | foxlit | doesn't provision for a very good else, though |
| 02:34.59 | foxlit | guess you could add return; and append code after while |
| 02:34.59 | Cide | wasn't in the specification ;) |
| 02:35.29 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.34 | Cide | >>> do print"foo"end |
| 02:35.35 | Cide | Cide: "foo" |
| 02:35.40 | tlarson | is there a simple way to view return values of commands you run on the command line? |
| 02:35.41 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.51 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.15 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.28 | foxlit | s/b==/==/ |
| 02:36.45 | Cide | hardcoded (and erroneous hardcoded value :P) |
| 02:37.02 | Wobin_ | What do cobrahide and clefthide leg armours usually run for on the AH? |
| 02:37.06 | foxlit | Considering circumstances, good enough! |
| 02:37.15 | foxlit | hey, actually |
| 02:37.27 | foxlit | UnitBuff("pet",i) should be UnitBuff("pet",i,1) |
| 02:37.42 | Cide | what for? |
| 02:37.45 | foxlit | since mend pet is player castable on pet, and that'd limit the number of buffs returned to way below 32 |
| 02:37.55 | Cide | usually |
| 02:37.59 | Cide | still hardcoded :) |
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| 03:25.30 | Shirik | grr |
| 03:25.33 | Shirik | I hate it when there's no errors |
| 03:25.45 | Shirik | it just makes me go "No, there has to be something wrong" |
| 03:27.31 | Cide | yep |
| 03:29.24 | Shirik | and my video driver just crashed |
| 03:29.25 | Cide | and then you start thinking it's a rare, inexplicable bug that only occurs when planets align, with devastating effects |
| 03:30.01 | Shirik | exactly |
| 03:30.09 | Shirik | but oh well, it'll probably surface somewhere down the road |
| 03:30.17 | Shirik | afk restarting because my graphics card is a pos |
| 03:30.19 | Cide | that's what YOU think |
| 03:30.22 | Cide | good night |
| 03:30.28 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.30 | Shirik | night |
| 03:31.13 | Mike-N-Go | ~mpc |
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| 03:35.05 | Shirik | lua |
| 03:35.07 | Shirik | oops |
| 03:38.25 | Thelyna | can't find your command-line? :p |
| 03:40.11 | Shirik | well I type faster than my latency |
| 03:40.13 | Shirik | so I'll do /join #wowi-lounge then start typing /join #lua |
| 03:40.25 | Shirik | Unfortunately the #wowi-lounge window pops up before I finish sometimes |
| 03:54.14 | Shirik | scite... why do you hate me so |
| 04:07.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 04:07.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love how stage6 always, without fail, crashes firefox |
| 04:08.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | shirik, you need to get some autojoin scripts |
| 04:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Blah |
| 04:12.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like the blizzcon stream is out for the night |
| 04:12.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That SC match had me all hot and bothered too :/ |
| 04:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to see how it ends :/ |
| 04:15.00 | Shirik | ssoooooo |
| 04:15.03 | Shirik | the reason I have no errors |
| 04:15.11 | Shirik | is because I have the addon disabled or something along htose lines |
| 04:15.25 | Shirik | nope, enabled. I must have just written the TOC wrong or something |
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| 04:25.31 | Shirik | hrm |
| 04:25.41 | Shirik | infinite loop in PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is difficult to debug |
| 04:25.49 | Shirik | I'll get back to that tomorrow |
| 04:25.54 | Shirik | night all |
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| 04:42.46 | Tem | LOL |
| 04:42.55 | Tem | itunes plus |
| 04:43.00 | Tem | drm-free music |
| 04:43.06 | Tem | for 30 cents more |
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| 04:46.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | my god |
| 04:46.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | the forums are going insane |
| 04:46.48 | Tem | about? |
| 04:46.58 | Tem | is there new info? |
| 04:47.42 | Rallion | whoa, whoa, wait, the forums are just going insane now? |
| 04:47.52 | Rallion | as opposed to years ago? |
| 04:48.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean like |
| 04:48.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | straight up loony |
| 04:48.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | from this morning's news |
| 04:48.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | STILL |
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| 05:03.48 | Nom- | All I really wanted to know was an expected timeline for new xpac |
| 05:03.53 | Nom- | They haven't provided that :( |
| 05:12.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh |
| 05:12.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's blizzard |
| 05:12.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course they haven't |
| 05:12.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing march-july 08 |
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| 09:30.19 | Srosh | Is there somewhere a transcript of the UI&Mods panel at BlizzCon yesterday? |
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| 13:37.15 | Lunessa | ... Was it something I said? |
| 13:37.33 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 13:37.44 | zenzelezz | it's too late now, the damage is done |
| 13:37.56 | zenzelezz | things will never again be what they were |
| 13:38.56 | Lunessa | Well, in that case, maybe I should just let it all out and say what I really feel? |
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| 13:56.03 | Lunessa | it won't let me download with quicktime - halp! :facepalm: |
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| 14:19.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/img_1472.jpg |
| 14:19.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | welp |
| 14:20.29 | zenzelezz | I saw a picture of him from the last Blizzcon too, but then he'd brought (hired?) some woman dressed as a succubus |
| 14:20.49 | Lunessa | mmmmm... succubus |
| 14:21.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | the greatest thing would be to find out his cell phone number and ask for a summon occasionally from time to time |
| 14:23.43 | Lunessa | ... lol |
| 14:23.58 | Lunessa | ... "Can I get a Summon to LA?" |
| 14:32.05 | Lunessa | Masochism Pinky, it's our new tool. |
| 14:39.47 | Legorol | morning all, is there a place where i can watch a video of the expansion announcement? |
| 14:41.55 | krka | did you see the exp teaser traielr? |
| 14:42.10 | krka | it's on blizzards site as an exe |
| 14:42.15 | krka | the movie is extracted at tpb |
| 14:42.24 | krka | it's really cool |
| 14:42.30 | |Pixel| | you can see it as a flv though |
| 14:42.53 | |Pixel| | http://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/ -> "View the trailer" button |
| 14:42.58 | |Pixel| | will popup a flash player |
| 14:43.25 | krka | get the high res avi instead1 |
| 14:43.40 | krka | http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3762100/Wrath_Of_The_Lich_King_EN.avi |
| 14:43.47 | krka | or i can send it do you |
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| 14:59.01 | Lunessa | back later. |
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| 15:38.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | the troll meter is off the charts :O http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=711996777&sid=1 |
| 15:39.00 | clad|away | hehe |
| 15:40.16 | clad|away | there's very little discussion on the UI forums |
| 15:40.18 | clad|away | which suprises me |
| 15:41.32 | clad|away | since there was a lot released yesterday |
| 15:42.52 | sag_ich_nicht | http://zstudios.789mb.com/photo_scorigami.html <--oh lawd |
| 15:51.32 | Adys | Random useless question, what makes the action bar gray-out some spells on certain debuffs (hypothermia, weakened soul etc) - is it detecting the debuff's name, or its spell id? |
| 15:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 15:58.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/b/be/Mapofworldwithnorthrend.jpg |
| 15:58.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | if that's official, the zone west of searing gorge that was never opened is extended out |
| 15:58.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | which means it may be opened in wotlk |
| 15:58.59 | Adys | They just used a beta map |
| 15:59.08 | Adys | Notice how silithus is missing out |
| 15:59.30 | clad|away | indeed |
| 16:00.09 | zenzelezz | Un'goro looks pretty mountainous too, but I can't remember what that part of the world map normally looks like o_O |
| 16:00.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | little less mountainy |
| 16:01.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | azure/bloodmist are there, though |
| 16:01.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is what confuses me |
| 16:02.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | they also cut off that land west of stonetalon that currently has nothing there |
| 16:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 16:03.25 | sag_ich_nicht | map analysis shows we are getting undermine |
| 16:03.47 | sag_ich_nicht | compare the blizzard provided maps with the map shown at the northrend panel |
| 16:03.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | if we get the south seas |
| 16:04.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | AND northrend |
| 16:04.07 | sag_ich_nicht | we do |
| 16:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll be very happy |
| 16:04.19 | sag_ich_nicht | you will see two additional islands at the south end of azeroth |
| 16:04.24 | sag_ich_nicht | that are not there on the live maps |
| 16:04.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | because that means azeroth is pretty much complete except for modern hyjal |
| 16:04.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | which we may see |
| 16:04.53 | sag_ich_nicht | you forgot the maelstrom |
| 16:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | then we have the emerald dream to do and all the existing landmass is mapped |
| 16:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and the islands that are there |
| 16:05.08 | sag_ich_nicht | shown in demo of warcraft 3 |
| 16:05.15 | clad|away | you guys are reading way too much into an alpha map of the expansion :P |
| 16:05.17 | clad|away | i'l say that much |
| 16:05.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying IF |
| 16:05.31 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|away: they wouldn't add island for no reason to the world map :P |
| 16:05.37 | sag_ich_nicht | *islands |
| 16:05.56 | sag_ich_nicht | which is also available as custom campaign from blizzard for frozen throne, if you haven't played it yet :P |
| 16:05.57 | clad|away | Yes, they would, this is how they develop |
| 16:05.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean like the island where northrend's supposed to be and the two near the maelstrom that are on the current map? |
| 16:06.06 | clad|away | as they stated during the raid and dungeon panel |
| 16:06.08 | clad|away | among others |
| 16:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 16:06.20 | sag_ich_nicht | just you wait :P |
| 16:06.24 | clad|away | you'll get the new BE zone, and the new continent |
| 16:06.28 | clad|away | I wouldn't expect much more than that |
| 16:06.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure we'll eventually see south seas |
| 16:06.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe not this expansion |
| 16:06.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but sometime |
| 16:06.55 | clad|away | of course |
| 16:06.57 | clad|away | no denying that |
| 16:06.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it and the emerald dream are pretty much required :O |
| 16:07.10 | clad|away | but I've played the alpha, and you can't make assumptions based off what they've released already |
| 16:07.27 | sag_ich_nicht | which alpha? :P |
| 16:07.39 | sag_ich_nicht | the 20 minute demo at blizzcon? |
| 16:07.49 | sag_ich_nicht | hope you had fun defining keybindings :P |
| 16:07.54 | clad|away | i dont need keybindings |
| 16:08.02 | sag_ich_nicht | bad clicker! |
| 16:08.03 | clad|away | i use default everything, except shift-1-5 |
| 16:08.08 | clad|away | no, i use keys |
| 16:08.11 | clad|away | 1-= |
| 16:08.13 | sag_ich_nicht | okay then we are the same :P |
| 16:08.14 | clad|away | and shift 1-= |
| 16:08.25 | clad|away | so all i have to do is rebind 12 keys |
| 16:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i use ctrl 1-` |
| 16:08.38 | clad|away | and there's more than enough time on the boat to Northrend |
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| 16:09.15 | sag_ich_nicht | clad|away i assume it's a new worldserver like outland? :P |
| 16:09.29 | zenzelezz | is the time() function expensive if called often? |
| 16:09.41 | clad|away | there is a zoning screen, so yes you cross servers |
| 16:09.49 | clad|away | which servers you cross, i dont have a mage to test with |
| 16:10.29 | Adys | clad|away: how long does the boat take? what i read makes it sound like its 5 minutes by itself |
| 16:10.45 | clad|away | yes |
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| 16:10.46 | clad|away | it does |
| 16:10.53 | clad|away | because its designed to give you a scenic view of the howling fjord |
| 16:10.55 | clad|away | which is gorgeous |
| 16:12.03 | Adys | Anyone had the occasion to pop in Dalaran yet? |
| 16:12.14 | Adys | or i guess people couldnt get out of Howling Fjord |
| 16:12.45 | clad|away | you couldn't get to where it was, no |
| 16:12.53 | clad|away | ran the first instance a bit |
| 16:12.56 | clad|away | ran to Zul'Aman |
| 16:12.58 | MoonWolf | its hard to imagine a neutral dalaran. |
| 16:13.00 | clad|away | the first pull there is.. hard. |
| 16:13.22 | clad|away | MoonWolf: Why's that? |
| 16:13.36 | Adys | i gotta say i kinda like the idea of a shattrath-like floating dalaran in northrend |
| 16:13.40 | Adys | even lorewise |
| 16:13.41 | MoonWolf | to me dalaran is something very alliance side'd |
| 16:13.46 | clad|away | It was :P |
| 16:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | MoonWolf it was alliance sided |
| 16:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 16:13.59 | sag_ich_nicht | the bloodelfs departing to the horde |
| 16:14.03 | clad|away | who knows what the Kirin Tor did after Archimonde destroyed their city |
| 16:14.10 | sag_ich_nicht | also what clad just said |
| 16:14.24 | MoonWolf | i assume they went and had a few discussion with one or more dragonflights |
| 16:14.25 | clad|away | plus, their whole reason for moving is to strike against the blue dragonflight |
| 16:14.51 | MoonWolf | wait, what come again |
| 16:14.53 | MoonWolf | AGAINST ? |
| 16:14.55 | clad|away | yes |
| 16:14.58 | MoonWolf | i hate dalaran now. |
| 16:15.08 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 16:15.09 | clad|away | Malygos is insane right now, trying to strike against all magic users |
| 16:15.13 | clad|away | the Kirin Tor do not like this |
| 16:15.21 | clad|away | they are moving to Northrend to stand against the dragonflight |
| 16:15.34 | MoonWolf | but i likes me some blue dragonflight |
| 16:15.39 | clad|away | but i have to run to breakfast, bbiab :P |
| 16:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | MoonWolf maybe you can un-insane him. |
| 16:16.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 16:16.59 | MoonWolf | probably not |
| 16:17.03 | clad|away | thats my hope :P |
| 16:17.05 | MoonWolf | blizzard likes us to kill dragons |
| 16:17.05 | clad|away | but he's nutty |
| 16:17.06 | MoonWolf | stupid blizzrd. |
| 16:17.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i will like dalaran way better than shat |
| 16:29.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
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| 16:29.17 | sag_ich_nicht | he actually says "since malygos lost his head" |
| 16:29.31 | sag_ich_nicht | might as well mean arthas got him killed and now the blue dragonflight is leaderless :P |
| 16:29.43 | Nestaa | Anyone able to procur an old version of clearfont for me? Been looking all over |
| 16:31.20 | Adys | How "old"? |
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| 16:32.01 | Nestaa | I used to play with one of the first versions |
| 16:32.11 | Nestaa | Clearfont2 hurts my eyes :< |
| 16:32.34 | Adys | that's up to the font you're using |
| 16:32.45 | Adys | not really the version |
| 16:32.46 | Nestaa | used the default one I think |
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| 16:33.37 | Adys | Hm |
| 16:33.46 | Shirik | morning all |
| 16:33.57 | zenzelezz | heya |
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| 16:34.46 | Adys | Nestaa: try Calibri 1.0 |
| 16:34.51 | Adys | or Calibri 0.9 |
| 16:35.02 | Adys | you should have them with the default clearfont2 package |
| 16:35.36 | Shirik | anyone here use swatter? |
| 16:36.27 | zenzelezz | sort of, but I doubt I could answer any questions about it =D |
| 16:36.52 | Nestaa | Thanks, Adys |
| 16:37.26 | Shirik | wekk |
| 16:37.27 | Shirik | well* |
| 16:37.31 | Shirik | how do I open the window >< |
| 16:37.44 | Shirik | or does it only pop up on an error? |
| 16:37.55 | zenzelezz | don't know, I only see it when I get errors |
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| 16:38.45 | zenzelezz | /swatter seems to list a few commands, including /swatter show |
| 16:39.11 | Shirik | ok so apparently I don't have swatter |
| 16:39.14 | Shirik | so much for that |
| 16:39.31 | zenzelezz | sure you just don't have it enabled? |
| 16:40.22 | Shirik | nah, I realize now I never instlaled it on my laptop |
| 16:40.22 | Shirik | and my video driver crashed... again. This is getting pathetic |
| 16:41.33 | Nestaa | It was 0.9, Adys |
| 16:41.34 | Nestaa | Thank you |
| 16:41.42 | Adys | nps |
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| 16:49.18 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone here using the bookworm addon and have a extensive database for it? if so /msg me :P |
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| 17:04.11 | Nestaa | 7exit |
| 17:04.33 | zenzelezz | why do the carrions with pretty new colors (Outland ones) have to have two heads :-| |
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| 17:09.22 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz so they can attack the enemy twice as strong? |
| 17:09.49 | zenzelezz | fair enough, but they look so ugly :-| |
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| 17:34.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | revered with kurenai, whatever that means |
| 17:36.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | not much apparently |
| 17:36.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 17:36.47 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:36.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't really care for the space goats at exalted |
| 17:45.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 17:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Blizzcon stream talking about Inscription now |
| 17:46.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Aww, they shotdown Fireball + Knockback :( |
| 17:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | New Enchant: Executioner! |
| 17:48.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Chance onprot to ignore 840 armor |
| 17:48.35 | ScytheBlade1 | *on proc |
| 17:48.47 | clad|away | what did they say about inscription |
| 17:49.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It won't be limited to spells - you can increase Backstab damage, too (which wasn't clarified) |
| 17:49.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Further, it'll have another component to it, in creating items, not just inscribing abilities |
| 17:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | So when everyone has it all inscribed, it'll still be useful |
| 17:49.48 | clad|away | nice |
| 17:49.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Daily quests for cooking! |
| 17:49.53 | Shirik | omg clad|away |
| 17:49.57 | clad|away | watching it now. |
| 17:49.58 | Shirik | what are you doing here |
| 17:50.05 | clad|away | Shirik: i'm not at the con yet. |
| 17:50.11 | Shirik | I noticed :P |
| 17:50.29 | clad|away | nothing too exciting this morning |
| 17:50.45 | Shirik | Everything I've heard so far has just annoyed me |
| 17:50.50 | Shirik | so I'm partially glad I didn't go |
| 17:50.51 | ScytheBlade1 | The item panel is entertaining |
| 17:50.51 | clad|away | uhh why |
| 17:51.14 | Shirik | And I don't know if these are true or not, but given that they came from reputable people in this channel, I'll believe it for now |
| 17:51.30 | Shirik | Implementation of threat meters in the default UI, introduction of fear ward to Horde |
| 17:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Toss in ItemRack too, and a possible Deadly Boss Mods |
| 17:52.11 | ScytheBlade1 | But after blizzcon is over, I'm posting on the UI boards for clarification :P |
| 17:52.16 | Shirik | I don't care so much about those |
| 17:52.30 | Shirik | but threat meters, fear ward |
| 17:52.36 | Shirik | just really disgusts me |
| 17:53.02 | clad|away | why |
| 17:53.05 | clad|away | fear ward is necessary |
| 17:53.09 | clad|away | and its not a threat meter |
| 17:53.13 | Shirik | heh |
| 17:53.16 | clad|away | they didn't say that, so don't overreact |
| 17:53.17 | clad|away | :P |
| 17:53.22 | Shirik | horde has done fine without fear ward so far. Not everyone needs to be equal |
| 17:53.33 | Shirik | clad|away: Like I said I haven't heard it myself, I'm getting this passed on to me |
| 17:53.39 | clad|away | are you horde? |
| 17:53.42 | Shirik | so I don't know what's true and what's exaggerated |
| 17:53.42 | clad|away | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.45 | Shirik | yup |
| 17:53.48 | Shirik | well, both |
| 17:53.51 | clad|away | listen |
| 17:54.02 | clad|away | if the raid designers want to continue using fear as a control mechanic in fightsd |
| 17:54.09 | Shirik | My point is not everyone needs the exact same abilities. I'm sick of "balancing" by making people cookie cutters |
| 17:54.11 | clad|away | you can't have as deep of an alliance imbalance as we do |
| 17:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, then you should clarify this |
| 17:54.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-blizzcons-dungeons-and-raids-panel/ |
| 17:54.21 | clad|away | that's not the goal |
| 17:54.38 | clad|away | ScytheBlade1: be more specific, i'm not clarifying the entire post. |
| 17:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Search for "fear ward" in there and read that + next three lines |
| 17:54.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Three lines :) |
| 17:55.04 | clad|away | yes |
| 17:55.08 | clad|away | they don't know how to listen |
| 17:55.25 | clad|away | the questions were also asked in the ui panel |
| 17:55.31 | ScytheBlade1 | So that's a no to all of the above? |
| 17:55.35 | clad|away | no, i didn't sauy that |
| 17:55.38 | clad|away | i said they exaggerated |
| 17:55.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. |
| 17:55.54 | clad|away | raid team is pushing the class team to get fear ward, or somethign like it for the horde, true. |
| 17:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | So what is happening vs. what isn't happening? :P |
| 17:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 17:56.28 | clad|away | they know that right now, high end raiding requires some manner of aggro detection, so people know when to back off, they would like to get somethign like that in the default UI.. a way to know you're close to pulling aggro |
| 17:56.35 | clad|away | they don't anticipate just opening the raw threat information |
| 17:56.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll be interesting |
| 17:56.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And likely all server side |
| 17:57.06 | clad|away | it would be an event |
| 17:57.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 17:57.10 | clad|away | most likely implementation, imo |
| 17:57.23 | clad|away | As far as resist gear goes, they'd like to implement a method (i.e. itemrack, outfitter) where they can switch outfits in the default UI and more importantly, have those extra resist outfits not take up extra bag space |
| 17:57.39 | ScytheBlade1 | So they're thinking gear bags? |
| 17:57.50 | clad|away | no, the implementation is unclear |
| 17:57.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 17:57.59 | clad|away | but think a fire resist set of gear, that doesn't take up bag spAce |
| 17:58.05 | clad|away | and you can change in the default ui |
| 17:58.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Ahh |
| 17:58.37 | clad|away | we will have unique identifiers for each mob, in the combat events |
| 17:58.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 17:58.45 | clad|away | so threat meters and damage meters will be trivial |
| 17:58.49 | ScytheBlade1 | !!!!! |
| 17:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, combat log also? |
| 17:59.10 | clad|away | there's an extremely large combat log revamp, from teh ui panel |
| 17:59.15 | clad|away | coming in, i think 2.4 |
| 17:59.25 | Shirik | ugh |
| 17:59.30 | Shirik | As much as I like that |
| 17:59.39 | Shirik | It almost convinces me to stop work on battle recorder right now |
| 17:59.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it'll be a double edged sword |
| 17:59.45 | clad|away | probably not a bad idea |
| 17:59.50 | clad|away | it'll be so easy to write once 2.4 hits |
| 18:00.04 | clad|away | but 2.2 isn't out, we have no idea what 2.3 is, so no idea when 2.4 is coming out |
| 18:00.17 | ScytheBlade1 | At least it's scheduled as 2.4 and not 3.0 |
| 18:00.25 | Shirik | though.... |
| 18:00.37 | Shirik | I guess the changes would be in Events.lua not battle recorder |
| 18:00.56 | Shirik | since battlerecorder doesn't directly intercept the events, but rather just receives parsed info |
| 18:00.58 | clad|away | the moral of the story |
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| 18:01.03 | clad|away | same information |
| 18:01.07 | clad|away | no more parsing |
| 18:01.18 | clad|away | and we can identify Mob A versus Mob B when they have the same name |
| 18:01.31 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 18:01.40 | clad|away | not _target_ them |
| 18:01.44 | clad|away | but identify them as far as combat log goes |
| 18:01.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, one las question for the clad|away |
| 18:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | What about the possible built-in Deadly Boss Mods/? |
| 18:01.56 | sysrage | hope that works for temp pets too (water elementals, huntard pets that name the pet same as a player, etc) |
| 18:02.00 | clad|away | also, when a debuff is pushed off a mob by reaching the limit, it will be sent with an event |
| 18:02.06 | clad|away | sysrage: it does |
| 18:02.13 | clad|away | sysrage: everythign has a unique id |
| 18:02.20 | clad|away | ScytheBlade1: Thats an EXTREME exaggeration |
| 18:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I thought |
| 18:02.32 | clad|away | but they'd like a way to have some timer bars in the default UI |
| 18:02.36 | clad|away | for things like cyclic fears, etc. |
| 18:02.41 | clad|away | implementation again, not decided |
| 18:02.51 | clad|away | but its not DBM |
| 18:02.54 | clad|away | its timer bars |
| 18:02.59 | clad|away | of some sort |
| 18:03.37 | clad|away | okay, shower, keep asking and i'll answer before i go back :P |
| 18:04.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I think that's all |
| 18:04.01 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 18:04.03 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 18:09.15 | Corrodias | i've been thinking about buying a PSP |
| 18:09.39 | Corrodias | thing is, i hate sony. i'm not sure i can buy something from them. |
| 18:11.02 | zenzelezz | [Guild] [...]: tahnsk again zenzio u my loveable hero of rubbing sexiness |
| 18:11.03 | zenzelezz | O_o |
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| 18:13.15 | Shirik | ... |
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| 18:31.08 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 18:47.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | who does sspvp again? shadowed? |
| 18:47.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, okay |
| 18:48.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait, he's done working on it for now |
| 18:48.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | darn :( |
| 18:49.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | any more pvp addons that are nearly as awesome so i can check them out and try to find alternatives for the day that sspvp breaks? :O |
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| 18:50.00 | zenzelezz | what does it do? |
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| 18:51.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it does autojoining, parting, pops up a namelist in arenas when i mouseover players, and a billion more things |
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| 19:54.52 | foxlit | wowradio has the audio from the panel the wowinsider article is based on |
| 19:55.28 | foxlit | wowinsider transcription is rather awful |
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| 20:00.00 | Industrial | Anyone here use emacs? |
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| 20:25.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | What we're going to do is give the players ability to report other players for being AFK, like the spam reports. Once enough players have reported that person, and a debuff appears that only goes away when they show up in combat. If they don't get into combat, no honor gain. |
| 20:25.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | /dance |
| 20:26.13 | zenzelezz | sweet :) |
| 20:33.06 | foxlit | hi alterac ram, tbh |
| 20:34.40 | Gnarfoz | I kind of think they'll make it able to discern between pvp combat and pve combat ;p |
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| 20:36.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 20:36.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any addons that are still in development that let me move the chat editbox? i tried looking before and didn't find much :[ |
| 20:37.08 | zenzelezz | do you want to move it around a lot or only once? |
| 20:37.17 | Corrodias | if the people go out fighting alterac rams... they're not helping much, but what's the point? |
| 20:37.49 | Corrodias | now the person is actually active in the game. they might as well fight PVP as, if they die to some ram, they're going to lose durability. |
| 20:37.55 | Shirik | Has anyone ever had an ATM let you withdraw money, but not deposit money? |
| 20:38.03 | Shirik | Just happened to me :/ |
| 20:38.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | only once zenz |
| 20:38.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | just to the top of the chat frame |
| 20:38.46 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies2: I believe I did that in some private addon just by ClearAllPoints() and SetPoint()ing it |
| 20:38.53 | zenzelezz | in an OnLoad or whatever |
| 20:39.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah that doesn't help me much |
| 20:39.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 20:39.25 | zenzelezz | why not? |
| 20:39.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've looked and just have no idea how to write my own at all |
| 20:40.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can mess with other peoples' stuff because they have their own framework |
| 20:40.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if i could move it with fluidframes i'd be happy |
| 20:40.28 | sysrage | Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya.. you killed my father |
| 20:40.31 | sysrage | prepare to die |
| 20:40.34 | zenzelezz | let me see if I still have it somewhere |
| 20:40.55 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Some people still use Visor2, it works fine |
| 20:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't like visor :/ |
| 20:41.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like how FF does things more |
| 20:41.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i don't think i can move the editbox with either |
| 20:45.04 | Industrial | FF? |
| 20:45.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | fluidframes |
| 20:45.15 | Industrial | I use SetPoint(tm) |
| 20:45.34 | zenzelezz | I already said that, but look up and you'll see his problem |
| 20:45.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | said problem being i'm awful at making things from scratch |
| 20:46.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially addons :[ |
| 20:46.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know how to get them up and running |
| 20:46.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't just chuck a line of code in there, i have to go around all the red tape and stuff |
| 20:50.54 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies2: http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/TopChatEditbox.zip -- no guarantees, but I think this works (addon disabled by default) |
| 20:51.29 | zenzelezz | could just move the function contents into the OnLoad really, but it's a cut-and-paste from the addon I took it from |
| 20:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol. Holy crap @ QA session question |
| 20:54.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "Hi, I'm a pretty hardcore space bar jumper in the AV cave. I was wondering if we could get some trampolines installed." |
| 21:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoo, PTR patch |
| 21:02.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to see if that works under wine with sound |
| 21:03.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 21:03.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Fail. |
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| 21:12.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope someone's recording these panels |
| 21:12.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | the giga stream was crapping out too much for me |
| 21:13.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather just watch it on demand where i can pause and stuff |
| 21:13.56 | ScytheBlade1 | If a contest is going on, they switch to them |
| 21:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Panels are taking a second seat |
| 21:14.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 21:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope they upload all their panel footage and stuff at giga or something |
| 21:15.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't want to watch their awful swapping back and forth and akward waiting on stuff to begin |
| 21:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree |
| 21:16.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus octostream eats my bandwidth |
| 21:18.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I think it does stuff for the LAN too - my brother is watching too |
| 21:18.16 | ScytheBlade1 | And somewhat surprisingly, the bandwidth is fine |
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| 22:38.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b391/OMGIPWN/leakedspell.jpg |
| 22:38.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | :3 |
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| 22:43.43 | Shirik | Heh, just wrote a 20 line comment explaining how I serialize data transmissions in BNF |
| 22:48.44 | Industrial | Can I set a texture color? (it already has a texture file) |
| 22:49.00 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:49.08 | Shirik | er, well I've done it for highlights |
| 22:50.16 | Industrial | cant do it if it already has a texture :( |
| 22:51.08 | Industrial | guess ill make it 0, 0, 0, 0.5 then |
| 22:51.09 | Industrial | :P |
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