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| 00:09.33 | Wobin | woo |
| 00:09.33 | Wobin | new wine |
| 00:09.40 | Wobin | what does this hold for us? |
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| 00:16.35 | mikma | oh nice, they have also added packages for debian |
| 00:19.38 | Thrae | http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Best_of_Conservapedia |
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| 00:48.19 | JoshBorke | how does one get out of undercity? |
| 00:51.48 | Cairenn | elevator up |
| 00:51.50 | Kaydeethree | find the elevators or the sewer exit |
| 00:52.25 | JoshBorke | where's the elevator? :-( |
| 00:52.25 | JoshBorke | my first time there |
| 00:52.25 | JoshBorke | didn't pay attention when i entered |
| 00:52.49 | Cairenn | look for the "Stitches" guys - there are one on either side of every hallway that leads to an elevator |
| 00:53.21 | Cairenn | go into the center circle, up the ramps to the upper "floor", then out one of the hallways |
| 00:53.22 | sysrage | how do i get Sap to always show with NECB? (I'm not the rogue) |
| 00:53.24 | JoshBorke | ah, they put a wall there when teh elevator isn't there |
| 00:53.51 | JoshBorke | thanks Cairenn :-) |
| 00:53.56 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 00:54.04 | sysrage | anybody know? |
| 00:54.15 | Cairenn | when you go up the elevator, look for the ramp going UP, the ones going down just lead you back down |
| 00:54.59 | Cairenn | there is actually another way out, but it's much more confusing |
| 00:55.17 | Thrae | God I love Conservapedia. I'm neither liberal nor conservative, and this RationalWiki also has a little bit of a bias, but Conservapedia is just too damn laughable. |
| 00:55.59 | JoshBorke | thanks :-) |
| 00:56.14 | JoshBorke | the whole wall thing confused me |
| 00:56.18 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:59.40 | Mike-N-Go | The UC was the hardest city for me to understand, first introduced, in WoW. |
| 01:05.08 | Wobin | UC elevators |
| 01:05.17 | Wobin | More deaths than the whole PVP community combined =( |
| 01:05.36 | Wobin | along with the aldor elevator |
| 01:07.02 | Mike-N-Go | Especially when the alliance us it =D |
| 01:11.42 | Corrodias | the undercity isn't bad once you learn your way around |
| 01:11.50 | Wobin | I like TB |
| 01:11.55 | Wobin | for it's mail/AH facility |
| 01:12.00 | Wobin | best in Azeroth |
| 01:12.10 | Wobin | Buy from AH |
| 01:12.11 | Wobin | step step step |
| 01:12.14 | Wobin | get from mailbox |
| 01:12.26 | Wobin | well |
| 01:12.31 | Wobin | okay, so Booty bay is better |
| 01:12.36 | Wobin | but who uses those AHs? |
| 01:20.50 | Corrodias | yep |
| 01:21.05 | Corrodias | TB is great, especially for blacksmiths and... who else? engineers? |
| 01:22.01 | sag_ich_nicht | what is TB |
| 01:22.12 | sag_ich_nicht | thunderbluff? |
| 01:22.53 | Wobin | aye |
| 01:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 01:23.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin |
| 01:23.21 | sag_ich_nicht | IF is good for that as well |
| 01:23.27 | Wobin | It's not as close |
| 01:23.31 | Wobin | You have to cross the bridge |
| 01:23.32 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 01:23.35 | Wobin | or head down the side |
| 01:23.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i am a paladin |
| 01:23.40 | Wobin | TB is literally four steps |
| 01:23.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care :P |
| 01:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i mount up |
| 01:23.51 | Wobin | You can just bubblehearth |
| 01:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | press W once |
| 01:23.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and am there |
| 01:23.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 01:24.04 | Wobin | I'd still get there faster |
| 01:24.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i just mount up and press W for half a second and i'm at the mailbox |
| 01:24.10 | Wobin | cause I don't have to wait for casting time |
| 01:24.49 | Wobin | anyway, who doesn't use a level 1 ah mule for their ah needs? |
| 01:24.57 | sag_ich_nicht | I. |
| 01:25.02 | JoshBorke | me |
| 01:25.06 | Wobin | I have much better things to do on my characters with mounts than hang around the AH |
| 01:25.06 | JoshBorke | i use a lvl 19 ah mule |
| 01:25.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin well |
| 01:25.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i either use the time with my main |
| 01:25.31 | sag_ich_nicht | or with a bank char |
| 01:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | makes 0 difference. |
| 01:25.42 | sag_ich_nicht | since i have auctioneer loaded all the time anyway for prices in tooltips |
| 01:25.43 | Wobin | missing the point =P |
| 01:25.47 | sag_ich_nicht | no, u |
| 01:25.51 | Wobin | uhuh |
| 01:25.52 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 01:25.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i am drunk |
| 01:25.55 | sag_ich_nicht | thus |
| 01:25.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i am right |
| 01:25.59 | sag_ich_nicht | by default |
| 01:26.05 | Wobin | or you think so |
| 01:26.08 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 01:26.09 | Wobin | You will discover the truth |
| 01:26.13 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 01:26.13 | Wobin | when you sober up |
| 01:26.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i am the truth |
| 01:26.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 01:26.21 | Wobin | That you are wrong every which way |
| 01:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 01:26.37 | sag_ich_nicht | u |
| 01:26.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 01:26.42 | Bleeter | meh, best bank alt is a rogue with sprint... 'sif lvl 1 :P |
| 01:26.51 | Wobin | That's true |
| 01:26.56 | Wobin | except in TB, you'd overshoot |
| 01:27.36 | Bleeter | somehow, I don't think there'd be many tauren rogue bank alts anyway |
| 01:27.44 | Wobin | =( |
| 01:27.48 | Wobin | SNEAKSNEAKSNEAK |
| 01:27.56 | Wobin | I want a tauren rogue =( |
| 01:28.28 | Wobin | I tend to use the moon festival event to scatter my AH mules to the best locations anyway |
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| 01:29.12 | Wobin | I should make a gnome rogue with an orb of deception |
| 01:29.22 | Wobin | so I can do roguey things as a tauren bodymodel |
| 01:29.56 | Wobin | I have to say, the beastlord set make tauren look badass |
| 01:30.46 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.650#24346 |
| 01:33.47 | Bleeter | I've gotten into the habit of trying to force teleporter malfunctions, eg Dwarf or Tauren mage.. then running around Shat saying things like 'what, you ain't seen a dwarf mage before, noob?' and 'no, I'm not losing my mind, you're going blind' |
| 01:33.53 | Bleeter | RP realms can, occasionally, be quite fun |
| 01:34.24 | Bleeter | don't think I've been a tauren mage |
| 01:34.33 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 01:34.35 | Bleeter | but yeah, would be rather fun to be one on my mechanostrider |
| 01:34.39 | sag_ich_nicht | there are Dwarven mages :O |
| 01:34.55 | sag_ich_nicht | they are just very very very rare |
| 01:34.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 01:41.55 | Cidan | I really should level a rogue |
| 01:41.57 | Cidan | :/ |
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| 01:53.18 | Tinyboom | bleh.. "mickey fin" has to be the worst drink ever.... |
| 01:54.04 | Tinyboom | tastes like apples that are green and bloody sour... |
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| 02:00.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Tinyboom sounds delicious. |
| 02:04.10 | Tem | damnit lol |
| 02:04.15 | Tem | I just discovered a transmute |
| 02:04.29 | Tem | but it totally goes the wrong way |
| 02:04.34 | Tem | water -> shadow |
| 02:07.25 | art3mis | heh |
| 02:07.34 | art3mis | i can preform that in real life for ya |
| 02:07.43 | art3mis | give me 25$ and i'll send you 1$ |
| 02:08.11 | Rallion | i hate water :( |
| 02:08.32 | Rallion | full Frozen Shadoweave set requires 38 Primal Water |
| 02:08.42 | Rallion | I can afford to just buy it, but damn |
| 02:08.50 | Rallion | I'd really rather not. |
| 02:09.39 | Tem | I _hate_ farming primal water |
| 02:10.12 | Rallion | ah |
| 02:10.30 | Rallion | lol, granted, for me, it's easy as hell to farm eels |
| 02:10.33 | Rallion | shadow priest |
| 02:10.38 | art3mis | farming water is easy though |
| 02:10.47 | Rallion | 2 dots, dead eel. |
| 02:10.52 | Tem | eels? |
| 02:10.58 | Rallion | outside shat, in that lake |
| 02:11.03 | art3mis | i like elem plataue |
| 02:11.08 | Tem | the only mobs I know of to farm for water are immune to frost |
| 02:11.08 | art3mis | plateau |
| 02:11.13 | Tem | aye, there |
| 02:11.15 | art3mis | cuz you can fish fr motes too |
| 02:11.27 | Tem | yeah, but I'm _far_ too lazy to get my fishing skill up |
| 02:11.33 | Tem | I'm still at 170ish |
| 02:11.34 | art3mis | took me too days for all the primal waters i needed |
| 02:11.35 | Rallion | plateau is a pain on pvp server, and not really worth it if you can't stand to skill up fishing |
| 02:11.59 | Tem | which lake? |
| 02:12.03 | Tem | in which zone? |
| 02:12.13 | Tem | from shatt, I can find myself in 3 different zones |
| 02:12.17 | art3mis | ele plateau |
| 02:12.18 | Rallion | Silmyr, I think it's called, in Terokkar |
| 02:12.32 | art3mis | and theres the stethek place too |
| 02:12.34 | Tem | art3mis, asking about the eel lake |
| 02:12.42 | art3mis | err setthek |
| 02:12.47 | Tem | well, those are immune to frost as well |
| 02:12.57 | art3mis | so go spec fire ;P |
| 02:13.03 | Tem | no |
| 02:13.10 | Tem | I'm going after the eels because they're probably not frost immune |
| 02:13.15 | Rallion | eels are WEAK as anything, and I think the drop rate is about 18% |
| 02:13.33 | Rallion | they have like 4k HP and I doubt they have any significant resistances |
| 02:13.42 | Tem | hot |
| 02:15.33 | Tem | found em |
| 02:15.38 | Tem | looks like they have about 3500 hp |
| 02:15.43 | Rallion | sounds right |
| 02:16.13 | Rallion | I literally just DOT them and swim around getting more while a train of them chases me and they all eventually die |
| 02:16.59 | Tem | 2 frostbolts and wand for me |
| 02:17.08 | Rallion | easy enough |
| 02:17.21 | Tem | usually just 2 wand "shots" |
| 02:20.02 | Tem | I'm looking at a droprate of about a mote per 5 kills |
| 02:20.26 | art3mis | meh i need a new game to play |
| 02:20.46 | Rallion | i don't know why but I experience absolutely insane streaks of doog and bad luck in that lake |
| 02:21.00 | Rallion | maybe it's just my brain assigning patterns to randomness |
| 02:21.07 | Tem | you could come level fishing for me |
| 02:21.37 | art3mis | there ya go |
| 02:21.56 | art3mis | head down to Tanaria on the northern edge of the beach by the goblins house |
| 02:22.14 | art3mis | you can skill from 300-375 fighing there in about 4 hours or so |
| 02:23.00 | Tem | tanaria? |
| 02:23.03 | Tem | tanaris*? |
| 02:23.13 | art3mis | yeah |
| 02:23.18 | Tem | ah |
| 02:23.19 | Rallion | you can level fishing at the same speed anywhere |
| 02:23.28 | Tem | well 'm still 170ish |
| 02:23.29 | art3mis | yup its easier in tanaris at night though |
| 02:23.35 | art3mis | plus you get stone scale eels |
| 02:23.41 | art3mis | and no-one goes there |
| 02:23.42 | Rallion | better rates and better lewtz? |
| 02:24.10 | art3mis | lewts no so much at night the eels are hooked about 40% of the time from 1am to 5-6am server time |
| 02:24.20 | Industrial | hmm |
| 02:24.29 | Industrial | can I do a[b or c] ? |
| 02:24.30 | art3mis | outside of those hours you get clams more often than not |
| 02:24.58 | art3mis | between those hours you'll get the odd chest and scroll tube |
| 02:25.18 | Cide | Industrial: yes |
| 02:25.21 | Industrial | ok |
| 02:25.22 | Tem | re:stonescale eels |
| 02:25.23 | art3mis | but with loot filter you can just fish to yer hearets content and purge everything not a chest/lockbox or stonescale |
| 02:25.24 | Tem | who cares? |
| 02:25.28 | art3mis | lots of people |
| 02:25.40 | art3mis | they're still 8-10g/stack |
| 02:25.53 | art3mis | i cant rememeber what they're used for though |
| 02:25.56 | Tem | srsly? |
| 02:26.03 | art3mis | yup |
| 02:26.13 | art3mis | go check the ah on yer server to be sure though |
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| 02:29.04 | Legorol | it's used for defense pot, which gives you armor |
| 02:29.09 | Legorol | it can make a difference |
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| 02:29.33 | Legorol | stonescale oil is used in several other alchemy recipes too if i remmeber right |
| 02:30.35 | Bleeter | superior defense, flask of petri, flask of titans, greater stoneshield |
| 02:31.19 | Bleeter | though, if any of those are PTR renames, I have no idea what they're called on live, given wowhead's 'feature' (PTR being authoritative is notabug) |
| 02:31.40 | art3mis | titans was the most common one |
| 02:33.10 | Bleeter | straight out oil used to be the most common, given it was used in the original set armour upgrade quest |
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| 02:39.44 | HarveyDent | I need help with a script |
| 02:39.52 | HarveyDent | Anyone here? |
| 02:40.38 | cladhaire | Just ask your question, if someone's around they'll try to help |
| 02:40.47 | Rallion | lollercoaster at killing enemy players from underwater |
| 02:41.21 | HarveyDent | I am having an issue using /script ChatFrame1:Hide() |
| 02:41.36 | HarveyDent | I have a script tied to several buttons, each one looks like this |
| 02:41.46 | HarveyDent | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.53 | HarveyDent | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.54 | HarveyDent | and so on |
| 02:42.59 | Garoun|Loupana | dies Nightbane control the ghosts? |
| 02:43.06 | HarveyDent | Whenever I am walking around, however, and the sub-zone changes, the currently viewed chatframe changes back to the default "General" chatframe |
| 02:43.39 | cladhaire | do you have simple chat on? |
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| 02:44.21 | HarveyDent | How ddo I get it so that after the button is presed, it will just stay on whatever chatframe I told it to? (without having to use the default BLizzard chat tabs) |
| 02:44.28 | HarveyDent | No, simple chat, iirc, is off. |
| 02:44.47 | HarveyDent | (simple chat is the one where it makes the general and combat log chatframes separate correct?) |
| 02:45.19 | cladhaire | its an option in interface options |
| 02:45.23 | cladhaire | make sure its not checked |
| 02:45.36 | HarveyDent | ok, just checked - simple chat is not ticked. |
| 02:46.10 | cladhaire | sounds like an event is triggering some code |
| 02:46.14 | cladhaire | you'd need to unregister that event |
| 02:47.47 | HarveyDent | Can you help me figure that out? heh |
| 02:48.04 | HarveyDent | I basically have a script that has several identical lines save for the chatframe # |
| 02:48.33 | HarveyDent | so I just simply click one of 5 buttons, each button is slightly different in that the first line of the script is a rotating chatframe # |
| 02:48.42 | HarveyDent | (to show that chatframe and hide the others) |
| 02:48.51 | HarveyDent | it's basically macro'd buttons that replicate me clicking on the chat tabs |
| 02:48.53 | cladhaire | okay |
| 02:49.00 | HarveyDent | but without the chat tabs |
| 02:49.10 | HarveyDent | now, when I click one of those -= it works just fine. Perfect. |
| 02:49.25 | HarveyDent | When I walk around in a zone and go from say.. Darnassus to ... "Outer Darnassus" |
| 02:49.32 | HarveyDent | it changes the chatframe back to general |
| 02:49.45 | HarveyDent | as if me pressing thos macro buttons was "temporary" |
| 02:50.02 | cladhaire | i'm sorry i dont' have time to look at it now |
| 02:50.07 | cladhaire | there's a few things you can look at |
| 02:50.28 | clad|sleep | but you caught meon the way out. |
| 02:50.39 | HarveyDent | I use Prat if that matters |
| 02:50.47 | HarveyDent | but ok, Thank you anyhow :) |
| 02:51.10 | Rallion | mm, time to play some Shining Force on the Wii. Classic. |
| 02:56.30 | clad|sleep | if this is using prat |
| 02:56.31 | clad|sleep | i'd suggest working with the people in #wowace |
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| 02:59.42 | HarveyDent | ok I'll give it a shot |
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| 03:03.06 | Bleeter | for your collective amusement, I remind you all of http://www.bleeter.id.au/irc_stats/wowi-lounge.html |
| 03:04.30 | Bleeter | hah, top three words used on the #norganna channel have been 'there' 'anyone' 'about' |
| 03:07.14 | Cide | hmm.. Cide| is more active than Cide and Cide-, despite being the second fallback nickname? weird |
| 03:07.26 | Cide | or maybe it adds them |
| 03:09.48 | Cide | I like how the top nick is "Shirik|AFK" |
| 03:10.08 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:10.13 | clad|sleep | :P |
| 03:10.36 | Shirik | confused... |
| 03:10.50 | HarveyDent | doesnt seem like anyone in WoWAce is around |
| 03:10.50 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 03:11.03 | HarveyDent | actually heh.. someone in #norganna directed me here to ask |
| 03:11.42 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 03:11.44 | clad|sleep | hirik|AFK wasn't very popular, getting kicked 8 times! |
| 03:11.44 | clad|sleep | For example, like this: |
| 03:11.44 | clad|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.44 | clad|sleep | cladhaire seemed to be hated too: 4 kicks were received. |
| 03:11.52 | Cide | haha |
| 03:11.54 | clad|sleep | hahahah: |
| 03:11.54 | clad|sleep | cladhaire is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 25 people! |
| 03:11.55 | Cide | Shirik: http://www.bleeter.id.au/irc_stats/wowi-lounge.html |
| 03:12.26 | clad|sleep | the win: ckknight_ couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 753 joins during this reporting period! |
| 03:12.54 | Cide | Shirik|AFK talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 350 times! |
| 03:13.21 | clad|sleep | ~stats |
| 03:13.21 | purl | Since Thu Aug 9 16:50:20 2007, there have been 66 modifications, 312 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 172 commands. I have been awake for 2d 10h 23m 1s this session, and currently reference 113377 factoids. I'm using about 18908 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 4244.47/310.64 child 0.01/0.02 |
| 03:13.38 | Shirik | cide >< |
| 03:13.39 | Cairenn | same general thing: http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowi-lounge.html.gz |
| 03:13.49 | clad|sleep | Cairenn: that's what i was looking for, thanks. |
| 03:13.54 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 03:20.11 | Corrodias | it has decided i'm Elessdy, even though i've only used that name for a few minutes at a time after reconnecting |
| 03:21.09 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 03:21.10 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn and suddenly hugs Cairenn tightly |
| 03:21.48 | JoshBorke | The loudest one was JoshBorke, who yelled 22.7% of the time! it's true |
| 03:21.56 | JoshBorke | and i'm also sad |
| 03:22.03 | JoshBorke | JoshBorke seems to be sad at the moment: 4.5% lines contained sad faces. :( |
| 03:22.46 | JoshBorke | hm, where's Bleeter |
| 03:23.04 | JoshBorke | not bleeter, but dre^ |
| 03:23.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Nobody beat anyone up. Everybody was friendly. <--... |
| 03:23.41 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed. |
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| 03:35.51 | boda | i just updated agunitframes and some of my settings were reset.. i cant seem to find where I can adjust the mana/rage bar height.. was that option taken out? I'm using the abf layout |
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| 03:40.30 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.44 | Tem | just when my headache was starting to go away, my roomate shows up with 3 drunk people |
| 03:42.40 | JoshBorke | drink with them |
| 03:42.47 | Bleeter | Tem: any of them hot? |
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| 03:42.53 | Tem | they're all guys |
| 03:43.01 | Tem | so... |
| 03:43.09 | Tem | their sex appeal doesn't matter |
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| 03:43.23 | Bleeter | do they have hot sisters? |
| 03:43.37 | Tem | not that I know of |
| 03:43.43 | Bleeter | time to find out ;) |
| 03:48.24 | Cidan | sigh |
| 03:48.40 | Industrial | Dennou Coil, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Naruto Shippuuden |
| 03:48.46 | Industrial | need moar to watch |
| 03:49.02 | Industrial | no Darker Than Black |
| 03:49.07 | Industrial | anyone? :D |
| 03:49.10 | Cidan | Hellsing? |
| 03:49.17 | Industrial | watched |
| 03:49.19 | Cidan | Hmm |
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| 03:49.38 | Cidan | Azumanga Daioh? |
| 03:49.39 | Cidan | :P |
| 03:49.55 | Cidan | cutest anime ever. |
| 03:50.28 | Industrial | I watched 2 eps. |
| 03:50.38 | Industrial | let me see if i can flop out my list again |
| 03:50.44 | Rallion | man...I really wish my abilities extended beyond coding and into graphics and sound |
| 03:50.59 | Industrial | I lost it some time, bet this is not the most up to date one :/ |
| 03:51.08 | Cidan | Rallion: It's easy when you put some effort into learning it |
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| 03:51.21 | Cairenn | oh, btw, art3mis - just as well you didn't plan on 6 Flags with us on Thurs, we decided not to bother after all, I was just too tired from the week before |
| 03:51.43 | Rallion | Cidan, I suppose you're right |
| 03:51.56 | Cidan | Rallion, well, er, do you mean coding graphics or as in, designing things? |
| 03:52.16 | Rallion | oh, I mean, like, the artistic part |
| 03:52.23 | Cidan | Ah, uh, good luck. :P |
| 03:52.26 | Rallion | lol |
| 03:52.39 | Cidan | I love to code, and I can work with 3D modeling, etc |
| 03:52.40 | Rallion | I have no idea if I have any ability, which...well, that's a bad sign, I think |
| 03:52.54 | Cidan | but physical drawing, or making my own textures, yeah, uh, good luck. |
| 03:53.05 | Shirik | Cidan: What program, out of curiosity |
| 03:53.05 | Cidan | Likely a 5 year old is more skilled than I am |
| 03:53.13 | Shirik | for 3d |
| 03:53.16 | Cidan | Maya mostly |
| 03:53.28 | Cidan | but I can pick up most anything given a bit of time |
| 03:54.00 | Cidan | I'm was eager to get my hands on the UE3 engine, but then I saw id's Tech 5 engine... |
| 03:54.10 | Rallion | I was just playing Shining Force, an old-style turn-based tactical combat RPG, and it really made me want to make something along those lines, but newer and more complex...a larger project than I'd ever be likely to finish on my own, to be sure, but it's fun to dream |
| 03:54.24 | Cidan | Rallion, I liked Shining Force 2 better |
| 03:54.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Shining Force |
| 03:54.28 | Rallion | so did I |
| 03:54.32 | sag_ich_nicht | is awesome |
| 03:54.32 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 |
| 03:54.38 | Thrae | Rallion: Shining Force has 1 billion sequels and prequels |
| 03:54.41 | Cidan | It's out on the Wii now |
| 03:54.47 | Cidan | 1 that is. |
| 03:54.50 | Rallion | Yeah, that's where I was playing it :) |
| 03:54.55 | Cidan | Ah |
| 03:55.01 | Cidan | When 2 comes out, I'll nab it. :D |
| 03:55.08 | Cidan | The code that lets you name all your players is fun. |
| 03:55.14 | Rallion | hehe |
| 03:55.15 | Thrae | Rallion: The Japanese LOVE RTSes. Do you like Strategy RTS or Tactical RTS? |
| 03:55.28 | Thrae | Rallion: If you like the latter, look at anything Atlus has produced...and that is a LOT |
| 03:55.32 | Corrodias | shining force, eh? |
| 03:55.38 | Rallion | Atlus is good, yes |
| 03:55.38 | Thrae | Disgaea, etc. |
| 03:55.40 | Cidan | Atlus makes some great games |
| 03:55.59 | Cidan | Disgaea is great. |
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| 03:56.14 | Corrodias | i didn't like having to level my characters |
| 03:56.15 | Rallion | Disgaea is ridiculously good, but at the same time the grind factor makes WoW's look like child's play |
| 03:56.18 | Corrodias | got boring |
| 03:56.26 | Cidan | Though, nothing really comes quit close to Final Fantasy Tactics for the PS1 |
| 03:56.33 | Cidan | For me, anyways. |
| 03:56.48 | Corrodias | FFT i enjoyed |
| 03:56.56 | Rallion | But Tactics had the enemies leveling up with you, IIRC, and I don't really like that part |
| 03:57.11 | Cidan | Only the random battles |
| 03:57.16 | Rallion | ah, okay |
| 03:57.42 | Cidan | I remember I used a trick once to level my self up to 99 on the very first map-point |
| 03:57.50 | Cidan | it was fun. |
| 03:58.06 | Cidan | 'Til the random battle enemies were also level 99, and had the best equipment in game. |
| 03:58.17 | Corrodias | for whatever reason, disgaea wasn't as fun to me as it should have been |
| 03:58.20 | Rallion | IMO it's too bad that that type of game pretty much only comes out on consoles, because there's frequently waaay too much info to easily display on a low-res blurry TV screen |
| 03:58.25 | Corrodias | so i quit playing. i don't play things i don't enjoy. :D |
| 03:58.50 | Corrodias | a tactics genre game would be perfect for the PC |
| 03:58.55 | Cidan | Aye |
| 03:59.08 | Cidan | But the market just isn't there, I'm afraid |
| 03:59.17 | Rallion | sad truth. |
| 03:59.18 | Cidan | It's up there with PC space shooters. |
| 03:59.22 | Rallion | ever played Battle for Wesnoth? |
| 03:59.31 | Cidan | Would be so good if done correctly, but alas... |
| 03:59.36 | Rallion | I know it... |
| 03:59.40 | Cidan | All we get is X2, X3, and Freelancer. |
| 03:59.47 | Industrial | Cidan: http://pastey.net/72092 |
| 03:59.53 | Rallion | I liked Freelancer waaaay more than it deserved. |
| 04:00.02 | Corrodias | freelancer... did i play that? |
| 04:00.05 | Industrial | Cidan: i had to pastey cause my host uses a suck webserver that cant server text or jpgs well.. (nginx) |
| 04:00.14 | Cidan | This is what you have? |
| 04:00.19 | Corrodias | i think i did |
| 04:00.20 | Industrial | what ive watched |
| 04:00.29 | Cidan | yeeesh |
| 04:00.40 | Cidan | WHR, haha |
| 04:00.44 | Cidan | The ending to that sucked |
| 04:00.46 | Cidan | so bad. |
| 04:00.50 | Corrodias | i'd play a good pc tactics game |
| 04:01.27 | Cidan | or even a Tactics MMO, where you can battle 1v1, 2v2 in teams |
| 04:01.36 | Cidan | mm... |
| 04:01.41 | Cidan | God that would be sweet. |
| 04:01.42 | Rallion | I would heartily suggest Battle for Wesnoth, it's not quite like the Japanese ones (max character level is THREE) but it's got a good amount of tactical depth and good AI |
| 04:01.55 | Cidan | I think I remember playing that. |
| 04:02.04 | Rallion | also, free |
| 04:02.10 | Rallion | free is always excellent |
| 04:03.00 | Corrodias | if i could tear myself away from WoW for long enough |
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| 04:05.14 | Bleeter | BoW ain't to shabby |
| 04:05.18 | Bleeter | *too |
| 04:06.24 | Industrial | eep |
| 04:06.26 | Industrial | hexagon |
| 04:06.36 | JoshBorke | hehe |
| 04:06.38 | JoshBorke | it's fun |
| 04:06.52 | Rallion | hexagon > all |
| 04:19.14 | Cidan | sigh |
| 04:19.21 | Cidan | so much to codeeeee |
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| 04:24.13 | Industrial | If you know any other fun ones (with release group?) http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=2P8n_4RI3BGxIvYxdrq02Q |
| 04:24.18 | Industrial | :> |
| 04:31.04 | Tem | so |
| 04:31.14 | Tem | a case of bear and half a bottle of scotch later |
| 04:31.19 | Tem | er, not scotch |
| 04:31.28 | Tem | we had some really old scotch that was terrible |
| 04:31.38 | Tem | I'm not entirely sure what the other bottle was... |
| 04:31.42 | Tem | but it's half gone now |
| 04:31.55 | Tem | s/bear/beer/ |
| 04:32.12 | Cidan | wtf, I like how SVN just dropped some of my changes |
| 04:32.12 | Cidan | grr |
| 04:32.29 | Tem | svn doesn't "just drop changes" |
| 04:34.05 | Cidan | well it merged my changes with the changes on the SVN, but it didn't so much as "merge" as it did "overwrite" |
| 04:34.23 | Tem | you feel tipsy. Whee! |
| 04:34.29 | JoshBorke | night all |
| 04:34.34 | Cidan | nightz0r. |
| 04:34.39 | Cairenn | Tem: so, "a case of bear and half a bottle of scotch later" ... what? |
| 04:34.52 | Tem | between the 5 of us |
| 04:35.01 | Tem | I went downstairs and drank with them |
| 04:35.18 | Tem | and now they're going to the shittyest bar in town |
| 04:35.22 | Tem | because they're retarded |
| 04:35.31 | Cairenn | and drunk |
| 04:37.07 | Tem | only my roommate is drunk |
| 04:37.22 | Tem | see, he just turned 21 earlier this year and he just "discovered" drinking |
| 04:37.28 | Cairenn | ahhhh |
| 04:37.32 | Tem | he was always the "good kid" who never drank |
| 04:37.52 | Tem | the rest of them are well on their way, though |
| 04:37.56 | Tem | ...as am I |
| 04:38.03 | Tem | I just don't really feel it yet |
| 04:38.12 | Cairenn | heh, you are |
| 04:41.41 | Shirik | Cidan! |
| 04:41.53 | Tem | few shots of bourbon and a couple beers is all I had |
| 04:46.02 | Tem | also, lol @ my roommate's friends |
| 04:46.08 | Tem | they didn't like the taste of bourbon |
| 04:46.50 | Cairenn | silly children |
| 04:48.09 | Tem | but seriously, the bottle of scotch they had was the nastyest thing I've ever tasted |
| 04:48.15 | Tem | it was like new leather shoes |
| 04:48.41 | Tem | that had been soaked in weak liquor for a week |
| 04:48.41 | MentalPower | interesting imagery |
| 04:48.44 | Tem | (the bottle had been open for quite a while.. like a week-ish) |
| 04:50.35 | Cairenn | it is entirely possible to get bad (tasting) scotch, age of it doesn't matter - if it's nasty, it's nasty /shrug |
| 04:51.32 | Cairenn | I have had some absolutely horrid scotches before |
| 04:52.17 | Cairenn | what was the name of it? |
| 04:53.42 | Cairenn | I had an Islay one time that was just AWFUL - it tasted like I was trying to drink straight iodine /shudder |
| 04:54.31 | Tem | black-something |
| 04:54.39 | Cairenn | (and given that I'm one of those people who can enjoy chewing on dried kelp from time to time, that tells you JUST how bad the Islay was) |
| 04:54.52 | Tem | I don't remember |
| 04:54.59 | Tem | I could go downstairs and look |
| 04:55.09 | Cairenn | not important |
| 04:55.11 | Tem | but I'm not entirely sure that stairs are a good idea right now |
| 04:55.15 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:55.17 | MentalPower | lol |
| 04:56.07 | Tem | I wish I still had the screenshot of the forum post |
| 04:56.12 | Tem | where iriel decoded it |
| 04:56.26 | Cairenn | hehehe, I got a little tipsy at BlizzCon a couple nights |
| 04:56.36 | Tem | that must have been fun |
| 04:56.42 | Cairenn | but I was a good girl, only had a couple drinks each night |
| 04:56.50 | Tem | I'm so going to the next blizzcon |
| 04:57.59 | Tem | gah this kinda sucks |
| 04:58.01 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:58.33 | Tem | I'm in the most social mood I've been in in a month |
| 04:58.33 | Tem | and no one is here |
| 04:58.33 | Cairenn | :( |
| 04:58.33 | Tem | (read: most liquored up) |
| 04:58.42 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 04:58.56 | Tem | and I _definitely_ can't drive anywhere |
| 04:59.11 | Tem | ooh |
| 04:59.24 | Tem | I should code something so I can lok a it tomorrow and say wtf!? |
| 04:59.26 | Cairenn | Tem: go play with the new tool |
| 04:59.33 | Tem | the new tool? |
| 04:59.41 | Cairenn | errrr, hrm, lemme rephrase that |
| 04:59.44 | Tem | the frame inspect thing? |
| 04:59.51 | Cairenn | go play with the new UI tool that Blizz released |
| 04:59.52 | Tem | I plaed with that earlier this week |
| 04:59.53 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 04:59.58 | Tem | it was meh |
| 05:00.09 | Cairenn | but you weren't drunk then |
| 05:00.29 | Tem | I'm not durnk now |
| 05:00.36 | Cairenn | un hun |
| 05:00.42 | Tem | lo. |
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| 05:01.18 | Cairenn | Tem, sweetie - you are starting to do what I did that night - the conversation started out not too bad but got progressively worse, rapidly |
| 05:03.08 | Tem | shush, you |
| 05:03.21 | Tem | dangerously close, yes |
| 05:03.34 | Cairenn | mmmhmmm |
| 05:04.12 | Tem | lol |
| 05:05.00 | Cairenn | awww, no drunk Tem posts |
| 05:05.09 | Tem | lol |
| 05:05.09 | Tem | no |
| 05:05.20 | Tem | maybe in 3-4 more shots |
| 05:05.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | drunkposting is never a good idea |
| 05:05.42 | Tem | but I've stopped drinking |
| 05:06.16 | Cairenn | but you aren't alone, we're all here :) |
| 05:07.08 | Tem | yu don't dount |
| 05:07.14 | Tem | counr* |
| 05:07.16 | Tem | er |
| 05:07.19 | Tem | count** |
| 05:07.19 | Cairenn | hahahaha |
| 05:07.27 | Cairenn | as I said ..... |
| 05:07.54 | Tem | I think I should go watch a movi |
| 05:07.59 | Tem | any suggestions? |
| 05:08.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | a friend of mine was drunk on irc once and kept misreading drunkard as drunktard |
| 05:08.14 | Tem | teehee |
| 05:08.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | he also said "tid frobbly not" instead of it's "probably not" |
| 05:08.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still trying to figure that one out |
| 05:08.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 05:08.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | "it's probably not" |
| 05:08.55 | Tem | My 2v2 partner was drunktarded and insisted tha he was good t go |
| 05:09.29 | Tem | except it was for 3v3-- not 2v2 |
| 05:09.50 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:11.20 | Rallion | i'd be drunk as hell right now if I didn't have to work in the morning |
| 05:11.35 | Rallion | expect me to be drunk as hell in 24 hours, though |
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| 05:11.56 | Tem | for some definition of "worked" |
| 05:12.15 | Tem | heee |
| 05:12.36 | Tem | bouncing my head makes the room do funny things |
| 05:14.47 | Cairenn | okay, time for me to take my pounding (as opposed to Tem's bouncing) head off to bed |
| 05:14.52 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:15.02 | Tem | :>( |
| 05:15.17 | Tem | ... or 12 |
| 05:15.44 | Cairenn | no worries sweetie, I'm logging this, so I'll be able to tease you about it in the morning >;-) |
| 05:15.45 | Tem | you should drink too, Cairenn |
| 05:16.29 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.32 | Tem | erm |
| 05:17.36 | Shirik | night Cairenn |
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| 05:25.52 | Thrae | OK, #politics has sucked up my day |
| 05:26.46 | Thrae | Damn my nature to try and think I can reason with people |
| 05:26.54 | Tem | TRY TO |
| 05:26.57 | Tem | goddamnit |
| 05:27.02 | Tem | that mistake pisses me off |
| 05:27.11 | Tem | TRY AND IS NOT RIGHT |
| 05:27.35 | Tem | okay, fine, I'm now drunk |
| 05:27.43 | Tem | I can barely focus the screen |
| 05:27.53 | Tem | granted it's big and stuff |
| 05:27.57 | Tem | but still |
| 05:28.07 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 05:28.40 | Thunder_Child | i bet you cant hear you liver shouting at you right now |
| 05:28.40 | sag_ich_nicht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:The_Delta_Force_DVD_cover.jpg ...hilarious. |
| 05:28.49 | Thunder_Child | s/you/your/ |
| 05:28.56 | Tem | nope |
| 05:29.12 | Tem | all I can hear right now is whatever is coing out of my headohones |
| 05:29.37 | Thunder_Child | of which you are to drunk to understand? |
| 05:30.09 | Tem | nah it's some music or something |
| 05:30.23 | Thunder_Child | i think -that- gives it away |
| 05:30.25 | Tem | I put it on earlier because I was sick of the warcraft music where IW as farming |
| 05:30.58 | Thunder_Child | the sad part about the new chat system is that i am going to have to turn the sound back on wow :( |
| 05:31.12 | Tem | oh dear |
| 05:31.30 | Thunder_Child | ./sarcasm |
| 05:31.35 | Tem | my random loop just hit some hitchhiker's guide |
| 05:31.46 | Tem | that's gonna be way above my ehad right now |
| 05:32.01 | Thunder_Child | you have the book on tape?...err..sound file |
| 05:32.23 | Tem | I got it from someone |
| 05:32.29 | Tem | wanna say iriel |
| 05:32.32 | Tem | not sure |
| 05:32.39 | Iriel | I think that was me, yes |
| 05:32.47 | Iriel | it's the radio series |
| 05:33.01 | Thunder_Child | odd stuff that |
| 05:33.01 | MentalPower | --/popcorn |
| 05:33.04 | Thunder_Child | heard some |
| 05:33.05 | Cairenn | you have the radio series? which version? |
| 05:33.11 | Tem | the good one? |
| 05:33.24 | Tem | I really enjoyed listening to it at work last semester |
| 05:33.41 | Iriel | There's only "one version" that I know of.. The original BBC radio series |
| 05:33.59 | Thunder_Child | thats the one one i know of as well |
| 05:34.03 | Thunder_Child | only* |
| 05:34.27 | Thunder_Child | didnt they have a series as well...or am i jusr imagineing things? |
| 05:34.33 | Thunder_Child | just* |
| 05:34.36 | Tem | imagineer |
| 05:34.57 | Thunder_Child | my excuse is lack of sleep |
| 05:36.28 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/72102 I am an evil genius. |
| 05:37.57 | MentalPower | sag_ich_nicht: is that AutoIt!? |
| 05:39.24 | sag_ich_nicht | MentalPower autohotkey |
| 05:39.31 | sag_ich_nicht | which you can read from the comments. |
| 05:40.09 | MentalPower | yeah I read that, but it looks like AutoIt! so I thought it was a plugin for it |
| 05:41.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't even know what AutoIt! is. |
| 05:42.48 | MentalPower | ~autoit |
| 05:42.57 | MentalPower | lets see if purl knows |
| 05:43.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ~autoit! |
| 05:43.29 | sag_ich_nicht | failure! |
| 05:43.34 | MentalPower | guess not |
| 05:43.36 | MentalPower | http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/ |
| 05:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | uh, yes. |
| 05:47.12 | Cairenn|afk | purl, autoit is <reply> http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/ |
| 05:47.13 | purl | Cairenn|afk: okay |
| 05:47.18 | Cairenn|afk | ~autoit |
| 05:47.18 | purl | http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/ |
| 05:48.27 | MentalPower | gnight Cair |
| 05:48.31 | Thrae | God help me, I'm still talking in #politics |
| 05:50.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae not even god can help you now. |
| 05:50.30 | Thrae | sag_ich_nicht: First time in my life I've been called a "religionist"...had to look it up |
| 05:50.44 | sag_ich_nicht | why was that |
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| 06:03.33 | Thunder_Child | well you did just say "god help me" |
| 06:05.31 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: touche |
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| 07:04.45 | Thunder_Child | wow...that was some shitty typeing there |
| 07:05.28 | End | which is dwm? |
| 07:14.00 | sag_ich_nicht | sleeptime. |
| 07:16.53 | Thunder_Child | Desktop windows manager |
| 07:17.45 | Thunder_Child | everytime it tried to recover it's self i get issues with it resulting in a BSoD |
| 07:17.50 | Thunder_Child | tries* |
| 07:18.00 | End | weird |
| 07:18.52 | Thunder_Child | it's simply iritating from this end |
| 07:19.00 | End | does it break a lot? |
| 07:19.09 | End | I mean, does it try to recover itself a lot? |
| 07:19.22 | Thunder_Child | every time it "fails" it tries to recover |
| 07:20.01 | Thunder_Child | offhand i couldnt tell you how often it fails |
| 07:32.04 | deltron | Thunder_Child: there's a couple patches out for vista, pre-sp1 |
| 07:32.25 | deltron | saw it on digg & reddig |
| 07:32.32 | deltron | s/reddig/reddit/ |
| 07:32.43 | Thunder_Child | that arent handled by the auto updater? |
| 07:33.04 | deltron | not these2 |
| 07:33.14 | deltron | bah i'm tired |
| 07:33.16 | deltron | should sleep |
| 07:33.19 | deltron | good night |
| 07:35.23 | Thunder_Child | night |
| 07:35.32 | deltron | ok it was on arstechnica I found it |
| 07:35.38 | deltron | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070807-vista-performance-and-compatibility-packs-released.html |
| 07:35.56 | Thunder_Child | ty |
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| 08:21.03 | Shirik | one should not go from 100% to 0% durability in one 5 man |
| 08:21.39 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 08:21.44 | zenzelezz | heroic? |
| 08:23.02 | Shirik | no |
| 08:23.46 | zenzelezz | ew |
| 08:23.55 | zenzelezz | which one then? |
| 08:25.43 | Shirik | shattered halls.... |
| 08:25.43 | Shirik | this tank has no clue what he's doing |
| 08:26.16 | haste | I did heroic shattered halls with a tank that liked to loot in combat, and just stood there when he lost aggro D: |
| 08:26.49 | zenzelezz | did you reach any bosses? o_O |
| 08:27.11 | haste | we completed it, even though he disconnected on the last guy |
| 08:27.26 | zenzelezz | interesting |
| 08:27.47 | haste | it was me and three friends + random tank |
| 08:28.14 | haste | rogue, shaman, shadow priest, shadow priest, warrior |
| 08:29.19 | zenzelezz | SH is perhaps my weakest heroic; not sure if it's been bad luck with the teammates or just my own fault... those 5-6 mob pulls are hell to tank |
| 08:29.41 | zenzelezz | then a friend, also warrior, exclaims "that's the easiest heroic, we just nuke and don't bother CCing" |
| 08:30.13 | haste | just kite, and it all works fine |
| 08:36.25 | Shirik | anyway, I'm out |
| 08:36.26 | Shirik | take care guys |
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| 09:19.54 | Bleeter | does Vista still have mod weirdness? |
| 09:23.10 | haste | mod weirdness? |
| 09:25.10 | Bleeter | something about having to install them with admin rights, or something.. dunno, coz I dont use it. was just a discussion in /trade, 'anyone can d/l and install a mod' |
| 09:25.40 | Bleeter | felt like retorting with 'not on certain vista installs' but (a) decided against it (b) figured I best ask as a generalised question |
| 09:32.38 | Punkie` | Bleeter: you need to move the wow folder out of program files and just on c:\ somewhere |
| 09:41.14 | Bleeter | Punkie`: thanks for that, will file it in the 'stuf that's prolly of no personal use 'cept when beating up clueless windows users' dept ;) |
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| 12:40.29 | Shirik|AFK | I love visual studio |
| 12:40.37 | Shirik|AFK | click save "Not enough storage space is available to process this command" |
| 12:40.44 | Shirik|AFK | (not HDD, I guess memory |
| 12:41.00 | zenzelezz | never had that problem |
| 12:41.08 | Shirik|AFK | have you ever opened a... |
| 12:41.33 | Industrial | visual studio? whats that? |
| 12:41.36 | Industrial | I see only in vim. |
| 12:41.42 | zenzelezz | it's imba, that's what |
| 12:41.48 | Shirik|AFK | well this is confusing |
| 12:41.51 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:41.57 | Shirik|AFK | 108MB file, but when I clicked save the second time it was 300 something |
| 12:42.02 | Shirik|AFK | so probably more than that |
| 12:42.10 | Industrial | http://industrial.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7438 |
| 12:42.10 | Industrial | http://industrial.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7437 |
| 12:42.10 | zenzelezz | what sort of file? |
| 12:42.15 | Industrial | 2 new addons |
| 12:42.17 | Industrial | :) |
| 12:42.54 | Shirik|AFK | SQL |
| 12:43.01 | Shirik|AFK | a backup that I need to manipulate slightly |
| 12:44.44 | cladhaire | Now we have a not-slow place to post temp pictures: |
| 12:44.48 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com |
| 12:44.55 | cladhaire | i got sick of waiting on imageshack and friends |
| 12:44.58 | JoshBorke | but what about ctscreens? |
| 12:45.20 | haste | bildr.no ! |
| 12:45.52 | cladhaire | haste: I don't know how to read that page :P |
| 12:46.05 | haste | Bilde = Image |
| 12:46.10 | Industrial | cladhaire: yay win it links to the picture directly, not some crap preview page |
| 12:46.11 | haste | Kommentar (valgfritt) = Comment (Optional) |
| 12:46.22 | cladhaire | Industrial: that's why i went with it |
| 12:46.24 | haste | need to know more :3 ? |
| 12:46.37 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ec79ee251b83fb5bbba454d527178ff6.png |
| 12:47.40 | cladhaire | well this is on my server, so its easy for me P |
| 12:47.45 | cladhaire | and teh uber fast thanks to my host |
| 12:48.25 | Shirik|AFK | ok, anyone good with mysql here? |
| 12:48.40 | cladhaire | yes |
| 12:48.48 | Shirik | exactly what is this: |
| 12:50.01 | Shirik | er, sec I need to decompress it again >< |
| 12:50.01 | zenzelezz | I think that's a statement |
| 12:50.01 | Shirik | this: /*!40101 SET @OLD_CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT=@@CHARACTER_SET_CLIENT */; |
| 12:50.10 | cladhaire | sets a variable for the current transaction |
| 12:50.11 | Shirik | there's a lot of those at the top of the file, and if I don't set phpmyadmin to a backwards compatibility mode it just fails importing |
| 12:50.34 | cladhaire | well you should always try importing/exporting from teh same version |
| 12:50.46 | Shirik | not an option, I don't own either of the servers :/ |
| 12:50.46 | cladhaire | and do it via comamndline, not phpmtyadmin if possible |
| 12:50.47 | Industrial | lol, it has ads? |
| 12:50.52 | cladhaire | Industrial: what does? |
| 12:50.58 | Shirik | and also not an option, I don't have that access yet :( |
| 12:51.02 | Industrial | gammatester. I didnt know. |
| 12:51.05 | Industrial | =D |
| 12:51.07 | cladhaire | Industrial: I can remove em |
| 12:51.12 | cladhaire | but yeah, they're mine, heh |
| 12:51.21 | cladhaire | but with no text content |
| 12:51.24 | Industrial | no i mean, fine, but I dont see them :P |
| 12:51.25 | cladhaire | no gold ads, =) |
| 12:51.44 | Industrial | just saw them in the screenshot :> |
| 12:51.46 | cladhaire | Industrial: files approved, sorry |
| 12:53.01 | Industrial | np :o |
| 12:56.03 | Shirik | cladhaire: If I took them out, would it be bad? >< |
| 12:56.34 | Shirik | (I haven't tried the biggie mysql file in compatibility mode so I don't know if it's going to work yet) |
| 12:56.58 | cladhaire | Shirik: It depends, most exports (From phpmyadmin) put those there to ensure they will load correctly on import. |
| 12:57.13 | Shirik | even though it gave me an error >.> |
| 12:57.25 | Shirik | I should have recorded the error |
| 12:58.20 | cladhaire | you should always record your error :P |
| 12:58.38 | Shirik | I'm not used to not understanding them >< |
| 12:58.54 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 13:00.13 | Shirik | he #1 thing I hate about phpmyadmin right now, though |
| 13:00.40 | Shirik | it has this cool feature that it'll break up your import if it detects the php script timeout is going to cause problems |
| 13:00.44 | Shirik | and you can restart from the middle |
| 13:00.59 | Shirik | but you have to upload the file again... which doesn't go well when it's huge >< |
| 13:01.32 | JoshBorke | don't upload on dialup? |
| 13:01.48 | Shirik | uh |
| 13:01.51 | Shirik | no, this is on cable |
| 13:01.55 | Shirik | I'm not a complete fool |
| 13:02.23 | Shirik | but even 100MB files on cable aren't easy to upload |
| 13:06.03 | Cidan | I prefer MySQL Administrator |
| 13:06.13 | Cidan | Never did like phpmyadmin |
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| 13:07.44 | Shirik | I love it |
| 13:07.45 | cladhaire | yep |
| 13:07.46 | Shirik | a ton, too |
| 13:07.51 | Shirik | (Mysql administrator) |
| 13:07.55 | cladhaire | mysql commandline ftw btw |
| 13:08.06 | Shirik | But I don't have direct access to the db |
| 13:08.08 | Shirik | I'm firewalled out |
| 13:08.15 | cladhaire | just sayin :P |
| 13:08.17 | Shirik | and I don't have time to be looking for where to go to fix that |
| 13:08.26 | Shirik | nah, that's what I want to do |
| 13:09.51 | Cidan | do you own/have root to the mysql machine? |
| 13:10.06 | Shirik | will |
| 13:10.11 | Shirik | but not yet |
| 13:11.27 | Cidan | iptables -A INPUT -i <external interface> -p tcp --dport <3306?> -j ACCEPT |
| 13:11.33 | Cidan | as root |
| 13:12.16 | Shirik | I would prefer to limit that to ips :P |
| 13:12.22 | Shirik | but yeah, I will when I can |
| 13:13.33 | Cidan | iptables -A INPUT -i <external interface> -s <ip address or class> -p tcp --dport <3306?> -j ACCEPT |
| 13:13.36 | Cidan | :P |
| 13:13.46 | Cidan | So, going to a fair in MD |
| 13:13.51 | Cidan | supposed to be fun or something |
| 13:14.40 | Shirik | oh? |
| 13:14.43 | Shirik | which one's that? |
| 13:14.57 | Cidan | er, I... have no clue, hold |
| 13:15.00 | Shirik | lol |
| 13:15.04 | haste | you might want to use -I INPUT instead, depending on how your chain looks like |
| 13:17.09 | Cidan | Montgomery County Agricultural Fair |
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| 13:17.41 | Shirik | only fair I've ever been to really is springfield days |
| 13:19.23 | zenzelezz | I only go to the Darkmoon Faire |
| 13:20.06 | Shirik | >< |
| 13:20.40 | Cidan | hah |
| 13:22.22 | Shirik | as much as I hate this transfer, I am so totally psyched that we're moving to a dedicated server now |
| 13:22.33 | Shirik | I have some really fun plans in store now that I can install anything I want |
| 13:22.38 | zenzelezz | which transfer? |
| 13:22.55 | Shirik | my guild's site |
| 13:23.16 | Shirik | we kept getting shut down because we use much memory and cpu time, they would temporarily shut us down for a bit |
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| 13:23.28 | Shirik | and we finally just got sick of it, so now that our lease is expiring we're moving |
| 13:23.40 | Cidan | o rly? |
| 13:23.52 | Cidan | TG got that much traffic |
| 13:23.52 | Cidan | ? |
| 13:24.12 | Shirik | yup, and I spent months optimizing it when the problem surfaced |
| 13:24.14 | Shirik | but I've run out of ideas |
| 13:24.26 | Cidan | Wow |
| 13:24.47 | Cidan | Who'd you go with? |
| 13:24.50 | Shirik | I think the biggest problem is the db is so damn huge |
| 13:25.08 | Shirik | 5 years of history in it |
| 13:25.26 | Shirik | some people called "webhostingbuzz" they were a recommendation from someone else |
| 13:25.39 | Shirik | grrr |
| 13:25.49 | Shirik | cladhaire (or Cidan) this is the error I keep getting (so much for backwards compat): |
| 13:25.57 | Shirik | SQL query: |
| 13:25.57 | Shirik | MySQL said: Documentation |
| 13:25.57 | Shirik | #1298 - Unknown or incorrect time zone: 'NULL' |
| 13:26.07 | Shirik | er |
| 13:26.11 | Shirik | the SQL query is /*!40103 SET TIME_ZONE=@OLD_TIME_ZONE */; |
| 13:26.30 | Shirik | and "Documentation" is a button to click on, ignore that >< |
| 13:26.39 | Cidan | does the field allow null? |
| 13:26.55 | Shirik | I have no idea what that line even is! >< |
| 13:27.49 | Shirik | bleh, fine, I'm going to o do what I should have done a long time ago |
| 13:28.02 | Cidan | dump the table with mysqldump |
| 13:28.03 | Shirik | figuring out where exactly in cpanel I can enable ssh and do things the right way |
| 13:28.46 | Cidan | though it may not make much a diff |
| 13:29.05 | Shirik | sure it will |
| 13:29.21 | Shirik | because then I can permit 3306 and use mysql administrator :P |
| 13:29.29 | Cidan | lulz |
| 13:30.47 | Cidan | I think I'm going to put down money on a dell blade sometime |
| 13:31.06 | Cidan | I already own two servers locally, but eh. |
| 13:31.37 | JoshBorke | blades are dumb if you have the space |
| 13:32.24 | Wobin | JoshBorke: huh? |
| 13:32.51 | JoshBorke | if you have the space for an actual 1u server they are far more expensive |
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| 13:33.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 13:33.45 | Shirik | expensive is the means by which you decide which is better? |
| 13:33.54 | JoshBorke | but of course :_P |
| 13:35.21 | JoshBorke | you also get more options with a 1u than you do with a blade system |
| 13:36.54 | Cidan | welp, off to the fair |
| 13:39.41 | Silviu- | Industrial ping |
| 13:40.16 | cladhaire | Shirik: is there a value for OLD_TIME_ZONE set anywhere? |
| 13:40.17 | cladhaire | i suspect not |
| 13:40.23 | Shirik | I doubt it |
| 13:40.28 | Shirik | and I figured that's where the null came from |
| 13:40.28 | cladhaire | well you can look |
| 13:40.30 | cladhaire | at the dump file |
| 13:40.33 | cladhaire | :P |
| 13:40.36 | Shirik | oh you mean in the dump |
| 13:40.38 | Shirik | no there isnt |
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| 13:40.59 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.04 | cladhaire | remove that line from the file then |
| 13:41.11 | Shirik | I tried a while ago |
| 13:41.14 | Shirik | msvc crashed |
| 13:43.06 | Industrial | Silviu-: pong |
| 13:45.41 | Silviu- | Industrial can u add an option to move idstats on top of minimap or sumth ? my minimap is down ;p |
| 13:46.13 | Silviu- | Industrial if not is no problem if u want to keep it really tiny |
| 13:47.31 | Industrial | Silviu-: line 70 change TC to BC, BC to TC and -4 to 4 |
| 13:47.40 | Industrial | in idStats.lua |
| 13:48.00 | Silviu- | Industrial oh super thank u |
| 13:48.03 | Industrial | np |
| 13:50.51 | Bleeter | god I love doing support for pidgin |
| 13:50.56 | Industrial | why |
| 13:51.01 | Bleeter | "an wen muß ich mich wenden wenn das pidgin bei mir andauernd abschmiert?" |
| 13:51.06 | Bleeter | so I babelfish the question |
| 13:51.13 | Bleeter | "at whom do I have to turn if pidgin with me continuously lubricate myself?" |
| 13:52.11 | Kaydeethree | ahaha |
| 13:52.31 | zenzelezz | yeah, I hate it when Pidgin lubricates me |
| 13:53.47 | Wobin | zenzelezz needs it hard and dry =P |
| 13:54.32 | zenzelezz | of course, I'm a warrior |
| 13:54.50 | Kaydeethree | wow, I've been out of the loop for a while |
| 13:54.54 | Kaydeethree | voice chat's active on the ptr |
| 13:55.16 | Bleeter | aye, still no beans with wine 0.9.42 |
| 13:55.32 | Bleeter | was gunna try building .43 this weekend, didn't get time. numerous dsound fixes in it, fingers crossed ;) |
| 13:56.09 | Bleeter | gnight folks |
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| 14:42.47 | zenzelezz | grr... I swear there's something really messed up with a certain friend's MSN... keep having messages not pass through (both ways) no matter what client I use |
| 14:43.17 | JoshBorke | msn has banned words |
| 14:43.19 | JoshBorke | haven't you heard? |
| 14:43.35 | zenzelezz | yes, but these sentences contain none of the listed ones, and it happens entirely spuriously |
| 14:43.49 | zenzelezz | something like "hello" shouldn't be filtered |
| 14:43.58 | JoshBorke | true |
| 14:45.22 | Legorol | it's a conspiracy! |
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| 14:54.42 | Industrial | Restrictive corporate bullshit, I wish it death. |
| 14:56.47 | JoshBorke | of course you do indie :-) |
| 14:57.12 | zenzelezz | I was happy with ICQ until ~2000b, stuck with that version... but then everyone I talked to went to MSN :-| |
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| 15:53.13 | Shirik | I love reading support requests from people who haven't a clue |
| 15:53.16 | Shirik | I have a 300MB SQL file which I rather desperately need to import into my local Apache server (Apache under Windows, had to abandon my Ubuntu laptop due to 'technical difficulties' ). |
| 15:53.26 | Shirik | Apache isn't gonna be liking that SQL file too much |
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| 16:03.48 | cladhaire | heh |
| 16:09.41 | Shirik | And the staff is really trying to be patient with this other guy |
| 16:09.46 | Shirik | "I think you misunderstand what our hosting space is for. It is not for you to run executable programs, you need to install these on your PC, create the website, then upload. Dreamweaver, or more simple WYSIWYG editors such as NetObjects Fusion are the types of software you should be looking at." |
| 16:10.50 | nevcairiel | some people really make me sad :/ |
| 16:11.55 | Shirik | though I wish someone would give me an answer on how to remove my IP from the firewall they have up >.> |
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| 16:14.15 | Shirik | welp while I wait for that |
| 16:14.19 | Shirik | time to go heal something and feel useful |
| 16:22.39 | cladhaire | Cairenn: My boyfriend just asked "What's Voltron" |
| 16:22.42 | cladhaire | brb.. stabbing myself. |
| 16:23.24 | cladhaire | and he doesn't understand why this makes me sad |
| 16:23.31 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 16:24.33 | sioraiocht | stop being a DRAMABOT |
| 16:25.33 | Shirik | lol dramabot |
| 16:25.36 | Shirik | omg voltron! |
| 16:25.53 | Shirik | You don't know who voltron was? |
| 16:25.58 | Shirik | Defender of the universe? |
| 16:26.06 | sioraiocht | *sigh* |
| 16:26.10 | sioraiocht | <---- 22 |
| 16:26.14 | Shirik | <--- 20! |
| 16:26.23 | sioraiocht | well no I don't |
| 16:26.32 | sioraiocht | and the show was cancelled two years before you were born |
| 16:26.51 | Shirik | must have watched reruns then :P |
| 16:27.01 | sioraiocht | fine, clad can date you =p |
| 16:27.23 | Shirik | if you want |
| 16:27.32 | sioraiocht | he's good in bed |
| 16:27.35 | Shirik | it's still on.... cartoon network I think? |
| 16:27.40 | Shirik | maybe disney channel. At like 4AM |
| 16:29.00 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:30.01 | sioraiocht | awww |
| 16:30.05 | sioraiocht | <3 Cairenn |
| 16:30.06 | cladhaire | Shirik: not using the grocery list anymore :P |
| 16:30.10 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:30.13 | cladhaire | went with an address book, for a bunch of reasons. |
| 16:30.32 | Shirik | interesting |
| 16:31.43 | Shirik | and why does lightheaded only have a score of 2.5 |
| 16:31.45 | Shirik | haters |
| 16:31.54 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:31.54 | Shirik | oh, that was search score |
| 16:31.57 | Shirik | never mind >.> |
| 16:32.57 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:33.02 | cladhaire | whats its rating, i dont even know |
| 16:33.21 | Shirik | 5 star |
| 16:33.25 | Shirik | of course |
| 16:33.27 | Shirik | people are lasy |
| 16:34.47 | cladhaire | 15 file updates last night, was nuts |
| 16:34.50 | cladhaire | half of those were Industrial |
| 16:35.02 | cladhaire | Shirik: its got 44 votes :P |
| 16:35.20 | Shirik | more than guiliani got in that straw poll yesterday |
| 16:36.35 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:38.02 | Shirik | whoo |
| 16:38.04 | Shirik | all files moved over |
| 16:38.13 | Shirik | now I just need to wait for them to get back to me with firewall or ssh access -_- |
| 16:40.13 | cladhaire | TomTom has a pretty shitty rating |
| 16:40.17 | cladhaire | only 4/5 with 17 votes |
| 16:40.20 | cladhaire | bastages |
| 16:40.33 | Shirik | damn it |
| 16:40.36 | Shirik | I knew I forgot something |
| 16:45.23 | nevcairiel | i am at 5/5 with 71 now .. wonder if i ever manage into some top10 :P |
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| 17:03.54 | cladhaire | this is weird.. something is making .. when i killa mob.. it gives it the star raid target.. and doesn't show them dying |
| 17:04.01 | cladhaire | i have to deselect and re-select it to see him dead |
| 17:06.55 | Garoun|Loupana | odd |
| 17:07.16 | Garoun|Loupana | what is the command I should be looking for in the lua to find which mod is playing a certain sound? |
| 17:07.52 | Garoun|Loupana | is it PlaySound() ? |
| 17:09.20 | MentalPower|Work | theres no way to find that out |
| 17:09.31 | zenzelezz | PlaySound or PlaySoundFile I think, depends what it's doing |
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| 17:10.20 | MentalPower|Work | yeah thats the one |
| 17:10.39 | MentalPower|Work | I thought you were trying to find out in-game what mod was playing what file |
| 17:11.09 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm just trying to track down the aggro gain sound, I have it turned off in omen and that, and still hear it every time I get aggro |
| 17:12.33 | MentalPower|Work | ct? |
| 17:13.28 | Garoun|Loupana | nope |
| 17:14.02 | Garoun|Loupana | I need to figure out what sound file it is most likely |
| 17:15.42 | Shirik | xperl? |
| 17:16.23 | Garoun|Loupana | it's gotta be pitbull, omen, recount, ora2, sct, or the like |
| 17:16.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I hate perl :P |
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| 17:17.12 | Garoun|Loupana | but it happens solo, group, and raid so I'm rather perplexed :P |
| 17:18.05 | Garoun|Loupana | I guess I could grep on the aggro gain event (don't know it off the top of my head) and see if that fills it in |
| 17:18.22 | zenzelezz | I hate when the media hears something like "you can tap into wireless connections" and blast it up as a "grand new danger zomg" |
| 17:21.59 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:22.03 | Shirik | where did you hear this? |
| 17:22.14 | zenzelezz | happens every few months |
| 17:22.25 | zenzelezz | this time they realized that some websites don't use "secure" sign-ins |
| 17:22.41 | Shirik | omfg wowinterface doesn't use SSL? |
| 17:25.20 | Cairenn | bite me |
| 17:26.03 | zenzelezz | love to |
| 17:26.22 | cogwheel | wb Cairenn |
| 17:26.32 | Cairenn | hey cogwheel :) |
| 17:26.35 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
| 17:26.54 | Shirik | I demand a secure login system |
| 17:27.05 | Shirik | people could be stealing my passwords |
| 17:27.14 | Shirik | sharding my epix |
| 17:27.16 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, could I use devtools to dump the events while in combat? |
| 17:27.26 | cogwheel | lern2notuseyourwowloginonothersites |
| 17:27.27 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:27.30 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:28.40 | cladhaire | Garoun|Loupana: use /dtevents imo |
| 17:28.50 | Garoun|Loupana | k, couldn't remember the command :) |
| 17:28.59 | Garoun|Loupana | I usually have it off until I need it to debug something |
| 17:29.56 | Shirik | Iriel: ping |
| 17:30.01 | zenzelezz | I hear so many saying that |
| 17:30.03 | Iriel | hm? |
| 17:30.12 | zenzelezz | maybe he should take my idea and LoD it :-o |
| 17:30.16 | Shirik | hey, is there a reason the events trace accepts keyboard input? |
| 17:30.38 | Iriel | yes, you can interact with the event selection with keys |
| 17:30.44 | Garoun|Loupana | Iriel, Which events should I have turned in eventtrace if I wanted to catch aggro gained? |
| 17:31.03 | Shirik | like what, just up and down? |
| 17:31.06 | zenzelezz | UNIT_TARGET I think, but not sure |
| 17:31.06 | Iriel | There isn't an event for aggro gained per se (Though PLAYER_ENTERING_COMBAT works pretty well for the player) |
| 17:31.21 | Iriel | You need to scan UnitAffectingCombat(unit) for more general units in an OnUpdate |
| 17:31.22 | zenzelezz | but you'd have to check the values for that event (UNIT_TARGET) |
| 17:31.29 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, I'm trying to track down which mod is playing a sound whenever I gain aggro |
| 17:31.31 | Shirik | Only reason I ask is because, personally, it's a bit annoying to not be able to run around while hovering over events |
| 17:31.35 | Shirik | but I can just change that myself |
| 17:31.49 | Iriel | Shirik: Indeed you can 8-) |
| 17:32.40 | zenzelezz | I like addons that don't misbehave when you hack them to be Load-on-Demand |
| 17:33.52 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:34.07 | nevcairiel | some addons just rely on events which wont happen in a LoD environment .P |
| 17:34.13 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 17:34.32 | zenzelezz | CTRA seemed to work fine as far as I could tell, except that the emergency monitor (or whatever it was) was visible |
| 17:34.48 | zenzelezz | KLHTM and DevTools thankfully seem to have no issues |
| 17:35.46 | Shirik | KLHTM has issues |
| 17:35.55 | Shirik | whether or not you load it on demand |
| 17:35.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:36.06 | zenzelezz | yes, but that's not a result of me hacking it |
| 17:36.22 | zenzelezz | my guild seems to want to go Omen now, which is fine with me if they'd just make up their mind |
| 17:36.30 | Iriel | Anyone want to give my popup action bar addon a try? |
| 17:36.31 | Shirik | same |
| 17:36.39 | zenzelezz | popup action bar? |
| 17:36.41 | Shirik | honestly I d... popup action bar? |
| 17:36.49 | Shirik | honestly, I don't want a threat meter at all, but I have to roll with them |
| 17:37.08 | Cairenn | it's pretty looking |
| 17:37.10 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/random/PopupBar.jpg |
| 17:37.14 | Shirik | sure |
| 17:37.19 | zenzelezz | like I could have my hunter's trap actionbar pop up in combat? |
| 17:37.47 | Cairenn | and aspects and tracking and ... |
| 17:37.49 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/PopupActions-0.2-20100.zip |
| 17:38.05 | Iriel | You bind each bar to a key |
| 17:38.21 | zenzelezz | that's almost like getting Sprocket back :-o |
| 17:38.35 | Iriel | press the key to open/close the bar, it 'borrows' 1-0 as its bindings when its open, and then when you use an action it hides the bar again |
| 17:38.44 | zenzelezz | I love you with the intensity of a thousand desert suns if this gets rid of having all six actionbars visible at all times |
| 17:38.53 | Iriel | Or you can press and hold the open button, use one or more actions, then when you release the open button it hides |
| 17:39.19 | Iriel | It's a bit simple right now (e.g. it's hardcoded numbers 1-0 as the hotkeys, and i've hardcoded some action bar offsets based on my hunter and my warlock) |
| 17:39.19 | Shirik | I'll check it out when I get back |
| 17:39.24 | Shirik | I'm going to go grab something to eat |
| 17:39.49 | Iriel | The action bar is draggable when it's open (Grab the shaded box below the colored line).. And you can use /poplabel to label the current bar |
| 17:39.56 | Iriel | Let me know if you hate it or love it 8-) |
| 17:40.22 | zenzelezz | if only my raid wasn't just starting :-| |
| 17:40.26 | Iriel | My warlock went from having all actionbars full and visible and STILL not enough space, to having them half-empty and getting rid of one completely. |
| 17:40.32 | AnduinLothar | slash commands are the devil. wtb StaticPopup |
| 17:40.48 | zenzelezz | Iriel: so it doesn't even replace the old bars, just a full new one? |
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| 17:41.40 | Iriel | zenzelezz: It's obviously mapped onto the usual 120 action Id's, so for rogues/druids/warriors it's likely a bit odd. But for everyone else it should be new bars (The usual 'bar 2' and then the bars after the standard blizzard 6) |
| 17:41.49 | Iriel | I mean, blizzard 5 |
| 17:41.51 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 17:41.54 | zenzelezz | cool |
| 17:42.11 | zenzelezz | actionbars were never a big problem for me... until I rolled something other than a warrior |
| 17:42.17 | zenzelezz | then I had like 300 spells at level 10 |
| 17:42.21 | Iriel | I just put it together last night so likely there's room for improvement, and you can always fiddle with the code and change the offsets |
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| 17:42.59 | Iriel | In theory you could map each popup bar to any combination of other action bars, but it'd make the code a bit messier. |
| 17:43.24 | zenzelezz | I've been looking for something to replace Sprocket since... well, 2.0 |
| 17:47.51 | lolinternet | is there a close button to EditingUI or is that just missing, idiotically? D: |
| 17:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | because i can't seem to find one D: |
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| 18:06.13 | zenzelezz | my potions bar is so totally going to the popup action bar |
| 18:16.20 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: top left hand corner of your screen |
| 18:16.22 | cladhaire | there's a minus button |
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| 18:20.04 | Iriel | zenzelezz: The irony is a bunch of the code in the secure state header was written to allow someone to re-write sprocket once 2.0 hit. |
| 18:20.15 | zenzelezz | I remember talk about that |
| 18:20.19 | zenzelezz | but it never happened :-( |
| 18:20.34 | Iriel | zenzelezz: And then nobody ever did, though cogwheel made some noises about it lately, maybe he'll get inspired 8-) |
| 18:21.04 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:16] <@cladhaire> sag_ich_nicht: top left hand corner of your screen <--ouch. |
| 18:21.09 | zenzelezz | Sprocket was so awesome :-/ |
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| 18:24.03 | Thunder_Child | never even heard of sprocket |
| 18:24.40 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5371-Sprocket.html |
| 18:24.42 | Punkie` | I never used sprocket after it caused 3kb/s increasing rate one time :P |
| 18:24.55 | Punkie` | 3000 even |
| 18:25.55 | Shirik|Fooding | bash: vi: command not found |
| 18:25.55 | Shirik|Fooding | qq |
| 18:25.55 | zenzelezz | increased rate on what? |
| 18:26.03 | Punkie` | memory usage |
| 18:26.09 | Kaydeethree | what the hell kind of system doesn't have vi installed? even if it is a symlink to busybox... |
| 18:26.15 | Punkie` | so my garbage collector was going crazy |
| 18:26.18 | zenzelezz | never did that to me |
| 18:26.19 | Shirik | well, it's cygwin so |
| 18:26.23 | Shirik | mine apparently |
| 18:26.24 | Punkie` | it was fixed later |
| 18:26.31 | Shirik | I'm trying to figure out a solution here |
| 18:26.38 | Punkie` | it was in some of the first releases, but eh, it never had much use to me :P |
| 18:26.39 | Shirik | I have a 108MB text file, I need to edit the top four lines |
| 18:26.51 | Shirik | it crashes anything I open it in |
| 18:27.03 | Shirik | except MSVC, whom refuses to save it after I make the change |
| 18:27.23 | Kaydeethree | eesh. if you've still got the cygwin Setup.exe file, try installing it from there... there is native gvim for windows, though |
| 18:27.58 | Iriel | emacs! |
| 18:28.09 | Iriel | No need to deal with vi 8-) |
| 18:28.59 | Shirik | emacs is evil |
| 18:29.16 | cladhaire | blasphemy |
| 18:29.52 | Iriel | We dont ask HOW he blesses it |
| 18:29.53 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:30.18 | Iriel | I really wish OSX would put a menu bar on my 2nd monitor |
| 18:30.26 | Lysistrata | What do you need to do in order to end up with a >100 MB Text File. Expect Logging EVERYTHING that goes on OR dumping a let's say emulator database into one single file. |
| 18:30.41 | Shirik | You need to dump a massive database |
| 18:31.04 | Shirik | which I did |
| 18:31.14 | Iriel | Of course, real unix people would use ed or sed to change a 108MB file |
| 18:31.42 | Shirik | vi is just the first thing that came to mind >< |
| 18:31.57 | zenzelezz | pico |
| 18:31.59 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 18:32.07 | Lysistrata | I still don't understand why ppl tend to dumb databases into one massiv file instead of having several files for the different tables. Often this would lessen the avg. file size by at least a factor of 2. |
| 18:32.28 | Shirik | to keep it in one transaction |
| 18:32.38 | Lysistrata | zenzelezz pico/nano are evil ... everyone starts to stare at me if I tell someone I use it. |
| 18:33.01 | zenzelezz | I don't care, I love pico |
| 18:33.41 | Shirik | bash: /usr/bin/tr: No such file or directory |
| 18:33.41 | Shirik | bash: /bin/find: No such file or directory |
| 18:33.41 | Shirik | bash: uname: command not found |
| 18:33.43 | Shirik | awesome! |
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| 18:33.46 | Lysistrata | It's a bit strange if the Database System doesn't allow you when to start a Transaction and when a Transaction fails. "Main SQL File": Start Transaction, Include Script X Y Z, End Transaction. Anyway do it as you want ;D |
| 18:34.04 | Garoun|Loupana | question for druids here, do you actually use a stealth bar and cat bar or just a cat bar with both? :P |
| 18:34.29 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm trying to understand why one of my guildmates uses a cat stealth bar, outside of personal preference |
| 18:34.43 | Shirik | Lysistrata: The real answer is this: If I did that, I'd have to modify about 200 files instead of 1 |
| 18:34.48 | Shirik | either way, I still have to modify the header |
| 18:34.51 | Garoun|Loupana | we only have like 3 attacks from stealth :P |
| 18:35.02 | Lysistrata | You'd have to edit ONE file not 200 Files. |
| 18:35.30 | Kaso | Garoun|Loupana i think "why not" is a good anwser |
| 18:35.32 | Shirik | no |
| 18:36.02 | N00bZXI | Question: How would I find out when an item starts cooldown? |
| 18:36.19 | Lysistrata | You should be able set the main attributes like the database to use as a variable. In addition even if you end up with 200 Files you'd be able to open them up simultaniously and use a Mass Replace in all files. |
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| 18:36.35 | Lysistrata | Anyway you found solution so its fine. |
| 18:36.43 | Garoun|Loupana | I guess :P just seems silly to have an entire bar devoted to 2 attacks (Pounce/ravage) |
| 18:37.00 | Shirik | or an entire screen dedicated to moonfire? |
| 18:37.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I have done that before out of silliness |
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| 18:39.33 | N00bZXI | I can't seem to figure out any reliable way of tracking item cooldowns |
| 18:40.13 | Kaso | N00bZXI onupdate checks |
| 18:40.16 | Kaso | thats how default UI does it |
| 18:40.53 | N00bZXI | So I'd have to parse the whole inventory+bags onupdate. |
| 18:41.23 | N00bZXI | hmm |
| 18:41.48 | Shirik | <3 vi |
| 18:41.52 | Iriel | N00bZXI: The trick is to figure out how frequenly you NEED to check, and only do it every N updates |
| 18:41.52 | zenzelezz | so we're standing staring at Morogrim, going over tactic once more |
| 18:41.54 | Shirik | handled it without a problem |
| 18:41.56 | zenzelezz | DISCOVERY! |
| 18:42.08 | Shirik | woot |
| 18:42.36 | N00bZXI | Iriel: To my knowledge SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN fires for items as well so I could probably check there |
| 18:43.01 | N00bZXI | The problem is I'd have to parse the whole inventory+bags every time that happens |
| 18:43.30 | N00bZXI | Since item cooldown isn't in the tooltip and there's no way of getting it until the player uses the item |
| 18:44.12 | N00bZXI | I imagine that wouldn't be very efficient at all |
| 18:45.07 | zenzelezz | TOOLTIP_UPDATE_TIMER seems common? |
| 18:46.38 | sag_ich_nicht | N00bZXI it's a huge friggin resource hog, no matter what you do, and a known problem in the default UI, which is set to be fixed in a further patch IIRC |
| 18:47.13 | sag_ich_nicht | (i am guessing 2.4) |
| 18:47.15 | zenzelezz | bah... so many girls in my guild, and all belong to some other guildie :-o |
| 18:47.31 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz get out and find a girlfriend offline. |
| 18:48.18 | Kaso | "Thou shalt not hit on your guildmates" |
| 18:48.21 | Shirik | what is this "offline" you speak of? |
| 18:49.52 | zenzelezz | we've combat ressed this paladin three times in one fight on Moro |
| 18:49.58 | Shirik | rofl |
| 18:50.06 | Shirik | his repair bill |
| 18:50.57 | N00bZXI | sag_ich_nicht: Great.. :/ |
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| 18:51.18 | Cidan | Well |
| 18:51.21 | Cidan | That was totally lame. |
| 18:51.27 | Cidan | Not a very fun fair. |
| 18:51.30 | cladhaire | sorry, you went to a local fair :P |
| 18:51.36 | cladhaire | not sure what you were expecting! |
| 18:51.44 | Cidan | well it was okay |
| 18:51.47 | Cidan | but eh |
| 18:51.54 | Cidan | the ones in Miami were better, :P |
| 18:52.12 | N00bZXI | guess I'll just make a table and add whatever trinkets user has to it every time user changes them |
| 18:52.24 | N00bZXI | and track them the same way I track spells |
| 18:55.01 | Cidan | Shirik, ever get SQL imported? |
| 18:55.09 | Shirik | going now |
| 18:55.10 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:55.13 | Shirik | how was the fair |
| 18:55.27 | Shirik | they STILL haven't gotten back to me with why I can't get through to the db, kinda annoyed >< |
| 18:55.54 | Shirik | or my ssh access |
| 18:56.18 | Cidan | use what emoemu uses |
| 18:56.25 | Cidan | best hosting I've ever used |
| 18:56.32 | zenzelezz | 1% wipe |
| 18:56.36 | Cidan | and it was eh, meh. |
| 18:56.43 | Shirik | bit late now :P |
| 18:56.46 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Been there |
| 18:56.54 | N00bZXI | zenzelezz: What boss? |
| 18:56.58 | zenzelezz | Morogrim |
| 18:57.16 | zenzelezz | closest we've been, but we seem to have the murlocs pretty good... |
| 18:57.25 | N00bZXI | ssc |
| 18:57.27 | N00bZXI | right? |
| 18:57.29 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 18:57.37 | N00bZXI | I guessed correctly! |
| 18:58.08 | N00bZXI | our guild still hasn't started ssc |
| 18:58.48 | Cidan | 1% wipes are the worst. |
| 18:58.55 | Cidan | Man, I really need to get back into raiding |
| 18:59.08 | Shirik | do you have any idea how many bossmods you made me write BY MYSELF?! |
| 18:59.16 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:59.16 | Cidan | :x |
| 18:59.21 | Shirik | btw, the kara romeo and juliet mod |
| 18:59.23 | Shirik | and the gruul mods |
| 18:59.29 | Shirik | coolest things I've ever written btw |
| 18:59.38 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 19:00.13 | Shirik | between proximity detection, debuff detection, hp differential detection, and all the flashing |
| 19:00.50 | zenzelezz | you flash your users? |
| 19:00.52 | Shirik | like r&j, a frame pops up with two cells, one for romeo one for juliet |
| 19:00.53 | Shirik | yes |
| 19:00.56 | Cidan | quite often |
| 19:01.00 | zenzelezz | kinky |
| 19:01.57 | Shirik | if their hp is separated by 10%, the one that's higher flashes red. If one of them has that +damage buff, they flash blue. For casters, they can click cast on the flashing blue to dispel the buff |
| 19:01.57 | Cidan | once I get all the windows, cells and grids working, do you want to start working on the bossmod API and I'll work on the click-cast windows? |
| 19:01.57 | Shirik | that works |
| 19:01.59 | Shirik | though I need to verify events works |
| 19:02.57 | Cidan | I just need to finish the base cells which are almost done, then grids, grid resizing, and then release functions for all of them. |
| 19:03.30 | Cidan | Not sure if I want to have an API for inserting/updating data on cells/grids, or leave it up to the author. :/ |
| 19:03.46 | Cidan | Hmm, likely make it like I did cells, API if you want, but ability to do it your self too. |
| 19:03.55 | Cidan | Sorry, totally typing-thinking outloud |
| 19:03.57 | Cidan | :x |
| 19:05.08 | Shirik | horde really have a long way to run to kara |
| 19:05.10 | Shirik | that sucks |
| 19:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik i love your R&J mod |
| 19:05.34 | zenzelezz | not that much longer than from Darkshire |
| 19:05.42 | Shirik | er |
| 19:05.43 | zenzelezz | you should have a 100% mount by the time you do Kara |
| 19:05.48 | Shirik | considering I ran through darkshire |
| 19:05.53 | Shirik | I don't think I ran the same way |
| 19:05.55 | zenzelezz | Stonard? |
| 19:06.02 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:06.18 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 19:06.39 | Cidan | one day |
| 19:06.44 | Cidan | I'll actually get into Kara |
| 19:06.55 | Cidan | One day, I'll actually get a flying mount, too. |
| 19:07.01 | Cidan | One day, I'll level past 64. |
| 19:07.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 19:08.16 | Cidan | Whhaattt. |
| 19:08.23 | Cidan | I stopped playing in March |
| 19:08.29 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 19:08.29 | sag_ich_nicht | like i care. :O |
| 19:08.35 | Cidan | Had to get ready to go into the hospital and move |
| 19:08.46 | zenzelezz | pfft, priorities man! ;-o |
| 19:09.07 | Cidan | :o |
| 19:09.36 | Cidan | I love the DC area, man, so much better than Blacksburg, VA. :x |
| 19:10.05 | zenzelezz | still on the wrong side of the lake |
| 19:10.23 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone know if the stockcooler of an opteron fits into a U1 case? |
| 19:10.54 | Cidan | hmm, I do not know |
| 19:11.32 | Shirik | the DC area is awesome |
| 19:11.35 | Shirik | where are you now Cidan |
| 19:11.46 | Shirik | fairfax cty? |
| 19:12.41 | zenzelezz | took me quite a while to find out what the "disco" in "Bubble and disco on tank" meant in my guild |
| 19:12.57 | zenzelezz | apparently it's "healing" |
| 19:13.16 | Cidan | Falls Church |
| 19:13.20 | Shirik | ah fun |
| 19:13.48 | Cidan | I have a place in Annandale but I'm never really there. Always with Nalia at her place. |
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| 19:18.10 | Cidan | Shirik, what font(s) do you want to use? |
| 19:18.28 | Shirik | haven't I told you I'm not creative? |
| 19:18.43 | N00bZXI | What event would I watch for to see when player equips/unequips item |
| 19:19.02 | Shirik | Pick something :) But whatever you pick, be sure it's GPL compatile |
| 19:19.05 | Shirik | compatible* |
| 19:20.19 | Cidan | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
| 19:20.21 | Cidan | all events, :P |
| 19:20.40 | Shirik | nah, /dteventtrace is better for finding something like that :P |
| 19:21.05 | N00bZXI | Cidan: Looked already, can't find a suitable event, which is why I'm asking here. |
| 19:21.11 | Cidan | Oh, right. |
| 19:21.27 | Shirik | UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED maybe? |
| 19:21.38 | Shirik | here's what fired when I deequipped my trinket: |
| 19:22.41 | Cidan | that fires when anyone in your party changes equipment too, so it seems |
| 19:22.45 | Shirik | ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED, ACTIONBAR_HIDEGRID, CURSOR_UPDATE, UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS, UNIT_INENTORY_CHANGED, ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED, BAG_UPDATE, UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE |
| 19:22.56 | Shirik | UNIT_MODEL_CHANGED |
| 19:23.15 | Shirik | I like UPDATE_INVENTORY_ALERTS actually |
| 19:23.23 | N00bZXI | hmm |
| 19:23.53 | N00bZXI | UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED fires when player receives a new item |
| 19:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it, are there no good 1U AM2 coolers at all? D: |
| 19:24.22 | N00bZXI | I think using UNIT_MODEL_CHANGED would make the most sense? |
| 19:24.26 | Shirik | er |
| 19:24.30 | N00bZXI | (and only check out of combat) |
| 19:24.36 | Shirik | probably |
| 19:25.30 | zenzelezz | that's two 1% wipes in a row now |
| 19:25.32 | Cidan | does set SetFrameStrata work with "OVERLAY"? |
| 19:25.42 | N00bZXI | I believe it does |
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| 19:30.46 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/FrameStrata |
| 19:30.50 | Iriel | OVERLAY is a layer, not a strata |
| 19:31.24 | Cidan | er, yeah, figured that one out, :P |
| 19:31.28 | Cidan | Thanks |
| 19:32.08 | Shirik | very <3 vi now |
| 19:32.22 | zenzelezz | vi before version three? |
| 19:32.38 | Shirik | Does emacs let you find something as quickly as typing :/\/\*!40103 |
| 19:32.38 | Shirik | ?! |
| 19:32.40 | Shirik | I think not! |
| 19:33.04 | Shirik | I was actually impressed with its speed considering it was at the end of a 100+MB file |
| 19:33.09 | cladhaire | yes, actually |
| 19:33.12 | Shirik | lies |
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| 19:33.51 | Shirik | Cidan: vi or emacs? |
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| 19:34.14 | Iriel | Shirik: Yes, it does. |
| 19:34.47 | Shirik | is that the exact command? |
| 19:34.52 | Shirik | (out of curiosity) |
| 19:34.56 | Shirik | I've never used emacs tbh :P |
| 19:35.06 | zenzelezz | I thought it was EMACS |
| 19:35.15 | Cidan | Er, vi for somethings |
| 19:35.16 | cladhaire | ah and yet you blindly hate, good times :P |
| 19:35.25 | Shirik | I've never used Ace either, cladhaire |
| 19:35.25 | Cidan | otherwise, nano/pico for simple edits |
| 19:35.30 | sag_ich_nicht | EMACS i superior D: |
| 19:35.32 | Cidan | where I don't want to use 329-81-39213-912390482 keys. |
| 19:35.38 | sag_ich_nicht | *is |
| 19:35.39 | Cidan | to edit a single line |
| 19:35.45 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:35.57 | cladhaire | Cidan: Pico and nano's need to break up lines.. is infuriating. |
| 19:36.07 | Cidan | Yes, yes it is. |
| 19:36.22 | Industrial | zenzelezz: lol. |
| 19:36.58 | zenzelezz | cladhaire: -bew |
| 19:37.15 | zenzelezz | can't remember which of those turn off line wrapping |
| 19:37.49 | Industrial | "set nowrap" >> ~/.vimrc |
| 19:37.53 | Industrial | ;P |
| 19:39.02 | Cidan | I like to sing-a! About the moon-a and the June-a and the Spring-a! |
| 19:40.13 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:40.14 | N00bZXI | Is there any way to get an inventory item name other than GetInventoryItemLink? |
| 19:40.54 | Shirik | GetItemInfo |
| 19:41.26 | N00bZXI | I mean if I only have slot |
| 19:41.40 | Shirik | GetInventoryItemLink and then GetItemInfo |
| 19:41.42 | Shirik | if you want to be redundant |
| 19:42.11 | Industrial | lol @ latest dark legacy |
| 19:46.59 | N00bZXI | alright this code is probably going to be not-very-resource-friendly :/ |
| 19:47.13 | N00bZXI | seems to be working at least |
| 19:51.38 | N00bZXI | Thanks for the help, everyone! http://pastey.net/72139 |
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| 20:14.54 | zenzelezz | woot, Moro down |
| 20:15.54 | JoshBorke | grats! |
| 20:16.22 | Thunder_Child | gratz |
| 20:17.19 | nevcairiel | woot akama down ( like half an hour ago ) .. but now that you mention it =P |
| 20:17.38 | zenzelezz | I make do with what guild I can get into =) |
| 20:17.51 | zenzelezz | and besides, a first is always fun |
| 20:18.03 | nevcairiel | of course it is =) |
| 20:19.54 | JoshBorke | wow, grats nev |
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| 20:21.35 | nevcairiel | shade of akama wasnt that hard now tho .. but gorefiend looks promising for a fun fight =) |
| 20:23.59 | Cidan | do secure frames still have that bug where they need to be named via CreateFrame? |
| 20:25.30 | Cidan | rather, where you're required to give it a name when creating it via CreateFrame |
| 20:25.41 | foxlit | Child frames? |
| 20:27.01 | zenzelezz | I find it really cool that you get to fight a boss you set free |
| 20:27.50 | Cidan | naw, like, CreateFrame("frame", "somestupidname", UIParent, secureblahblah); |
| 20:27.57 | Cidan | do you still need to supply a name? |
| 20:28.09 | Cidan | last time I used it, you had to or it failed to work. |
| 20:29.52 | Cide | Cidan: you don't have to name them |
| 20:30.04 | Cide | but the secure raid group header might require you to if you want to use it |
| 20:30.14 | Cide | I can't remember if that was removed |
| 20:30.39 | Cidan | bleh, okay |
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| 20:30.50 | Cidan | I just don't see why it should be _required_ |
| 20:30.57 | Cide | I argued the same thing |
| 20:31.08 | Cidan | I just end up doing "srgh"..math.random(999999999) |
| 20:31.12 | Cide | but not sure if it actually was removed |
| 20:31.13 | Cidan | :/ |
| 20:31.29 | Cide | I wonder if foo.GetName = function() return ""; end works :P |
| 20:31.42 | Cidan | hah |
| 20:32.01 | nevcairiel | with tainting the hell out of the secure code.. =P |
| 20:32.10 | Cide | shhhhh! |
| 20:33.28 | foxlit | Who needs secure code, anyway? :) |
| 20:33.41 | Cidan | psh |
| 20:33.45 | Cidan | it's pointless |
| 20:33.55 | Cidan | people don't need click-casting |
| 20:34.12 | nevcairiel | what can secure code do that macros cant ? :D |
| 20:34.21 | foxlit | Run macros |
| 20:34.27 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:34.29 | cladhaire | people don't need click-casting? |
| 20:34.31 | cladhaire | *stab* |
| 20:34.38 | Cidan | :P |
| 20:34.47 | foxlit | Can't click-cast moonfire anyway |
| 20:34.51 | cladhaire | why not? |
| 20:34.53 | Cidan | sure you can. |
| 20:34.54 | Beladona | now that I play a healer. I can say people DO need click casting |
| 20:34.56 | cladhaire | of course you can |
| 20:35.03 | cladhaire | you can click-cast Stealth |
| 20:35.03 | Cidan | just set the unitid to target |
| 20:35.05 | cladhaire | or Intercept |
| 20:35.09 | Beladona | its made my transition from tank to healing much easier |
| 20:35.15 | cladhaire | or Feign Death :P |
| 20:35.30 | cladhaire | Beladona: and every tank should be forced to play a priest for a period of time |
| 20:35.35 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:35.36 | Beladona | I agree |
| 20:35.42 | Beladona | well |
| 20:35.46 | Beladona | healer in general |
| 20:35.47 | zenzelezz | Intervene |
| 20:35.49 | zenzelezz | not Intercept |
| 20:35.53 | Cidan | I play a Paladin, does that count? |
| 20:36.00 | Beladona | I am playing a resto shaman now |
| 20:36.08 | Beladona | I think that qualifies |
| 20:36.14 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: No, you can click-cast Intercept |
| 20:36.23 | Thunder_Child | all in all i prefer to be a MH than an MT |
| 20:36.28 | cladhaire | or Charge |
| 20:36.32 | Thunder_Child | less worry |
| 20:36.35 | Cidan | MH is fun |
| 20:36.37 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: Why do you think click-casting has limits? |
| 20:36.41 | Beladona | I like healing |
| 20:36.45 | Beladona | I actually think its easier |
| 20:36.45 | nevcairiel | i really cannot get used to click-casting |
| 20:36.46 | zenzelezz | hm, I thought they were target only |
| 20:36.53 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: you're wrong :P |
| 20:36.54 | Cidan | healing has its' downsides though, you spend less time looking at the pretty world, and more time looking at bars |
| 20:36.56 | Beladona | but it has also given me more perspective for when I tank |
| 20:37.04 | Cidan | which is a bit upsetting |
| 20:37.07 | cladhaire | the only things that can't be click-casted are spells which need to be targeted in the 3-d world |
| 20:38.17 | nevcairiel | i tried click-casting on numerous occasions now .. but couldnt really get used to it .. my change-target-in-gcd play style worked out pretty good |
| 20:38.33 | cladhaire | should never be in GCD, unless you're a druid :P |
| 20:38.38 | nevcairiel | i am |
| 20:38.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 20:38.44 | cladhaire | then I agree, no reason :P |
| 20:38.53 | cladhaire | priests on the other hand, are the reason i wrote it |
| 20:38.58 | JoshBorke | paladins! |
| 20:39.01 | JoshBorke | jerk |
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| 20:39.21 | Thunder_Child | interesting i got invited into a group to be spammed "13:33:22 [P] <1:Joleneqz>: Download the greatest Hack Pack for WoW" |
| 20:39.28 | nevcairiel | but why shouldnt priests be in gcd? |
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| 20:39.33 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 20:39.59 | cladhaire | cause they're casting real heals 70% of the time, not renew or pom |
| 20:40.12 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:40.30 | nevcairiel | you can change target while casting as well, same rule applies :P |
| 20:40.43 | cladhaire | yes, but you said GCD :P |
| 20:40.53 | cladhaire | i like being able to maintain a focus unit, a target, and heal anyone I want |
| 20:41.01 | Cidan | oh, was a way ever put in to change targets AND cast at the same time? |
| 20:41.12 | cladhaire | Cidan: macros |
| 20:41.22 | cladhaire | that way I can watch the boss, so I see who he is targeting, plus my focus unit for CC |
| 20:41.24 | Cidan | sans macro's, a cleaner way |
| 20:41.27 | cladhaire | and can still heal everyone else |
| 20:41.29 | cladhaire | Cidan: no |
| 20:41.30 | JoshBorke | i like to just watch the boss |
| 20:41.32 | Cidan | boo. :/ |
| 20:41.39 | nevcairiel | i watch the boss through MTT |
| 20:41.46 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: that requires extra addons :P |
| 20:41.57 | nevcairiel | so does click casting |
| 20:41.59 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 20:42.04 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 20:42.10 | Cidan | should have something like SetAttribute("settarget", "true"); or something, :/ |
| 20:42.24 | cladhaire | Cidan: you can target using attribuets |
| 20:42.30 | cladhaire | you want an attribute "targetcast" |
| 20:42.41 | Cidan | oh oh, so you can target and cast? |
| 20:42.49 | nevcairiel | that exists? |
| 20:42.54 | cladhaire | no, it doesn't exist |
| 20:42.56 | cladhaire | but that's what he's asking for. |
| 20:42.57 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 20:43.03 | Cide | wouldn't macrotext work? |
| 20:43.06 | cladhaire | if you want to target, set the target attribute.. if you want to cast set the cast attribute |
| 20:43.12 | cladhaire | Cide: he said he ddn't want a macro |
| 20:43.14 | Cidan | I want both. :P |
| 20:43.21 | Cide | well, it's technically not a macro ;) |
| 20:43.23 | Cidan | ala pre 2.0 |
| 20:43.46 | nevcairiel | ./cast [target=targettarget] Heal .. isnt that possible with secure buttons? |
| 20:44.00 | nevcairiel | without macrotext |
| 20:44.01 | Cide | it is |
| 20:44.25 | Cide | but /target Folo /cast [target=Bar-target] Heal isn't, afaik |
| 20:44.30 | JoshBorke | editing UI doesn't work with nameless frames :-( |
| 20:44.32 | Cide | s/Folo/Foo/ |
| 20:44.55 | nevcairiel | i am using a more advanced macro for all my heals now |
| 20:45.03 | nevcairiel | and i was wondering if thats possible with secure buttons |
| 20:45.15 | nevcairiel | macro: /cast [help] [target=targettarget, help] [target=none]Swiftmend |
| 20:46.06 | nevcairiel | i coudlnt think of a way |
| 20:46.16 | nevcairiel | to get multiple conditions into one button :o |
| 20:53.33 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 20:53.58 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone got an idea what the bronze dragonflight did with the vials of eternity after using them as a foci? i mean, that doesn't consume them. |
| 20:55.24 | zenzelezz | sold them to the highest bidder |
| 20:55.33 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm wait, the put a droplet of it on the ring. |
| 20:55.41 | sag_ich_nicht | still, that's not enough to consume it |
| 20:55.59 | sag_ich_nicht | *they |
| 20:59.41 | zenzelezz | bah... someone decided I should be a Red Belt of Battle crafter... now I have four vortexes in my bank and we've yet to see the plan |
| 21:00.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate you. |
| 21:00.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i need 5 nethervortexes D: |
| 21:00.52 | AnduinLothar | i got my last one on thursday :) |
| 21:00.59 | zenzelezz | well they're not mine, others paid for them with DKP... I just happen to be the one they somehow decided should be the crafter :-| |
| 21:27.11 | Corrodias | even though you don't yet have the pattern |
| 21:28.12 | zenzelezz | yes |
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| 21:35.49 | AnduinLothar | heh, i just kited Emperor Dagran Thaurissan around his throne |
| 21:36.19 | AnduinLothar | go go run speed tallent |
| 21:36.20 | [dRaCo] | and then he got and raped you? |
| 21:36.26 | AnduinLothar | nah, i solod him |
| 21:37.55 | AnduinLothar | too bad these blues are only worth 1-2g |
| 21:38.13 | [dRaCo] | why'd you solo him anyway? |
| 21:38.21 | AnduinLothar | for fun |
| 21:42.03 | zenzelezz | I needed some Major Healing Potions the other day for an enchant so decided to go LBRS |
| 21:42.15 | zenzelezz | fun how many mobs you can run straight through as a 70 |
| 21:42.21 | AnduinLothar | DM is decent $ |
| 21:42.22 | zenzelezz | even got all the gems for UBRS key! :-p |
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| 21:53.57 | AnduinLothar | :) i made 20g in brd |
| 21:54.03 | zenzelezz | nice |
| 22:03.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno if "nice" is correct :/ |
| 22:03.29 | ScytheBlade1 | BRD :/ |
| 22:03.48 | zenzelezz | I like BRD |
| 22:04.08 | JoshBorke | as a paladin no less |
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| 22:22.55 | foxlit | Frame:SetAttribute("showstates", "0-9"); -- Frame has a secureheader assigned elsewhere |
| 22:23.10 | foxlit | Can I then assign a different parameter to for example not show i in state 2? |
| 22:23.19 | foxlit | s/parameter/attribute/ |
| 22:23.31 | Cidan | damn |
| 22:23.37 | Cidan | Eredar will be down for 48 hours! |
| 22:23.40 | Cidan | ! |
| 22:23.59 | Thunder_Child | awww, poor baby |
| 22:24.06 | Cidan | shh. |
| 22:24.28 | foxlit | Hm, can't |
| 22:24.28 | zenzelezz | "hehe damn i look forward to go back to school so i can focus on some wow playing :D" |
| 22:24.30 | foxlit | "O |
| 22:24.33 | Shirik | screw Eredar |
| 22:24.36 | Shirik | come to Drenden with me |
| 22:24.42 | Cidan | er |
| 22:24.45 | Cidan | Alliance? |
| 22:24.47 | foxlit | "If "showstates" is defined then "hidestates" will not be queried." |
| 22:24.49 | Shirik | nah |
| 22:25.00 | Shirik | though I play on both so |
| 22:25.09 | Cidan | PvP? |
| 22:25.10 | foxlit | qq, then I have to improvise |
| 22:25.12 | Shirik | no |
| 22:25.13 | Shirik | sorry :( |
| 22:25.24 | Cidan | def not then, :P |
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| 22:25.53 | Cidan | no care bear servers for me |
| 22:26.03 | Shirik | T_T |
| 22:26.31 | foxlit | Wonder if "0-9,!2" will work (examples give "!2,0-9" which might just be looking for the first thing that matches) |
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| 22:41.37 | Iriel | foxlit: you need !2,0-9 |
| 22:42.00 | Iriel | foxlit: It does indeed stop as soon as it finds a match |
| 22:42.10 | Iriel | (or an explicit non-match) |
| 22:42.53 | foxlit | Pity about not looking at hidestates, though |
| 22:43.02 | Iriel | Why? It's redundant |
| 22:43.12 | Iriel | you can do !2,* if you want 'show in all but 2' |
| 22:47.01 | foxlit | Nah, it's more of a "Show in this state range, unless I decide I want to hide specific elements inside" |
| 22:54.47 | Iriel | Well, just stick the exceptions up front... or... |
| 22:56.31 | Iriel | Use HideStates, and do more or less the same with the !'s reversed |
| 22:56.39 | Iriel | "2,!0-9,*" |
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| 23:06.02 | foxlit | Yeah, ended up prefixing it to showstates |
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| 23:34.28 | Wobwork | this channel isn't on the channel listing? |
| 23:34.55 | Thunder_Child | it's a super seceret channel |
| 23:35.00 | Thunder_Child | secret* |
| 23:35.04 | Wobwork | sekrit |
| 23:35.23 | Bleeter | skwirrel? |
| 23:35.26 | Thunder_Child | you have to be vetted before you can join...you just dont know that you are |
| 23:36.28 | foxlit | But then, how did you get in? |
| 23:36.37 | Thunder_Child | cute... |
| 23:37.06 | foxlit | Was obligatory |
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| 23:49.10 | Shirik | So I just quadrupled my framerate by disabling KTM |
| 23:50.50 | lolinternet | you've still been using it? |
| 23:50.52 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 23:50.58 | lolinternet | shame on you |
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| 23:55.47 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 23:56.22 | foxlit | And I think people that go "But foxlit, you must have KTM for Void Reaver" are very, very wrong |
| 23:57.13 | foxlit | But then, I did Al'ar |
| 23:57.33 | foxlit | And wasn't doing well on mana, so I decided to run up to him and melee him for a bit of regen. |
| 23:57.41 | foxlit | Hilarity ensued |
| 23:58.08 | Thunder_Child | wont have a choice when blizz sticks it in the game |
| 23:58.28 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit by not having a threatmeter installed you are being a jerk to the people that rely on one because they can't see your athreatvalue |
| 23:58.35 | sag_ich_nicht | *threatvalue |
| 23:58.43 | foxlit | Why do they care about my threat? |
| 23:59.06 | sag_ich_nicht | so the MT sees when you get close to his, duh. |
| 23:59.31 | Bleeter | and now to continue the story of dumb #pidgin convos... 'Win32 Input Methods don't work. You guys suck, 'coz Blizzard can get it right' |
| 23:59.47 | sag_ich_nicht | so the healers already see the hit on you coming and can prestart the heal |
