| 00:00.50 | Iriel | heh, no problem.. I needed it myself which is why it exists 8-) |
| 00:01.22 | Mike-N-Go | Same reason I made the addon(s) I have =P |
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| 00:16.17 | Shirik | rawr |
| 00:16.34 | Shirik | Gryphen you are scared of the rawr damnit! |
| 00:17.14 | Shirik | why no bot response this time :( |
| 00:17.48 | Gryphen | i only have it on my work mirc |
| 00:17.51 | Shirik | ah |
| 00:23.54 | Shirik | !ap 1454 |
| 00:23.54 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1454 is, 2v2: 250, 3v3: 286, 5v5: 358 |
| 00:24.31 | Rallion | bah, I just watched GameTrailers' Metroid restrospective and I can't believe I need to wait until next WEEK for Corruption. The horror. |
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| 00:32.13 | foxlit | New hobby: finding german dubs of japanese anime themes |
| 00:32.23 | foxlit | Certainly entertaining |
| 00:33.08 | Cidan | can you not clear a single point instead of all points? |
| 00:33.14 | Cidan | ie, I only want to clear topleft |
| 00:35.40 | AnduinLothar | not afaik. but you could GetPoint all of them, clearallpoitns and then re-setpoint all but the one you want |
| 00:35.54 | Cidan | that, is not fun. |
| 00:36.18 | Cidan | That can be messy |
| 00:37.30 | Shirik | Cidan do you honestly want me to tell you how I'd do it? It's not exactly straightforward but it'd work |
| 00:37.55 | Cidan | I know what I can do, clear all, reset them, etc |
| 00:37.58 | Shirik | Each frame keeps a running list of all frames docked to it |
| 00:38.04 | Cidan | oh? |
| 00:38.12 | Shirik | When one of the frames is dragged, start moving all of them |
| 00:38.27 | Shirik | you can recursively do this as well so you ensure the entire chain is dragged |
| 00:38.41 | Shirik | this way you don't need all that getpoint/setpoint magic |
| 00:39.03 | Shirik | but that's a bit ugly too |
| 00:39.18 | Cidan | not the way I'm doing it, if there is a list of all frames docked to given frame |
| 00:39.22 | Cidan | that would be golden |
| 00:39.46 | Shirik | oh, no that doesn't exist |
| 00:39.50 | Shirik | you'd have to make it |
| 00:39.52 | Shirik | is what I mean |
| 00:40.16 | Cidan | lol |
| 00:40.22 | Cidan | I thought about that |
| 00:40.27 | Cidan | it maybe my only choice |
| 00:40.32 | Cidan | I really don't want to do it |
| 00:40.45 | Cidan | but if I want to have a docking system like I wanted, I don't think I have a choice. |
| 00:40.56 | AnduinLothar | Cide: what's the CTOptions minimap button name? |
| 00:41.02 | AnduinLothar | and it's mask name |
| 00:41.09 | AnduinLothar | (the sub frame) |
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| 00:48.35 | Cidan | well, hmm |
| 00:48.46 | Cidan | multi point docking may not be such a good idea now that I think about it |
| 00:49.45 | Wobwork | You could figure which point to use as a docking point as the one closest to the mouse cursor? |
| 00:50.06 | Wobwork | (stepping in completely unaware of any previous conversation, btw) |
| 00:50.07 | Cidan | Oh that's not the trouble |
| 00:50.22 | Cidan | The trouble is when I have any window dock to any other window via any other point |
| 00:50.28 | Cidan | but then I want to move or undock the window away |
| 00:50.39 | Wobwork | modifier key? |
| 00:50.44 | Cidan | I can't clear a single point, I need to clear all points and reset, but then I need to check every other point... |
| 00:50.50 | Cidan | and so on |
| 00:50.51 | Wobwork | ah yeah |
| 00:50.57 | Cidan | it because a big cluster-fark |
| 00:51.15 | Cidan | s/it because/it becomes |
| 00:51.16 | Cidan | :( |
| 00:51.26 | Wobwork | When I did something like that, it was a cascading check of edges and subsequent joinings |
| 00:51.38 | Cidan | I really dislike that |
| 00:51.47 | Cidan | Really really dislike it. |
| 00:51.53 | Wobwork | aye, it's not very neat |
| 00:52.05 | Wobwork | but difficult to emulate that in other ways |
| 00:53.09 | Cidan | f it, I know what I'll do |
| 00:53.18 | Cidan | it's a bit dirty, but it's a whole lot better |
| 00:56.28 | Cidan | ergh, hiding a frame doesn't remove a dock, does it? |
| 00:56.43 | Cidan | or does it? |
| 00:56.57 | Shirik | it doesn't |
| 00:57.04 | Cidan | if I dock x to y, hide y, move y, show y, what will x do? |
| 00:57.11 | Shirik | x follkows |
| 00:57.11 | Cidan | move with y? |
| 00:57.12 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:57.13 | Cidan | :( |
| 00:57.32 | Cidan | I'm trying to write un-convoluted code |
| 00:58.02 | Wobwork | I think sticky frames demand ... convolution |
| 00:58.09 | Wobwork | at least with the tools we hav |
| 00:58.10 | Wobwork | e |
| 00:58.20 | Cidan | ugghh |
| 00:59.35 | Cidan | What say you Shirik? Convoluted docking code, or simple docking with less docking options? |
| 01:00.24 | Shirik | I like options |
| 01:00.31 | Shirik | it can't be THAT bad |
| 01:00.32 | Cidan | I hate you so much. |
| 01:00.39 | Shirik | <3 |
| 01:00.46 | Shirik | hey, when you see the ease with which bossmods will work |
| 01:00.48 | Shirik | and the accuracy |
| 01:00.51 | Shirik | you'll love me again |
| 01:00.53 | Cidan | Tomorrow |
| 01:00.57 | Cidan | I'm going to poison your food. |
| 01:01.08 | Cidan | eh |
| 01:01.11 | Cidan | I have an idea |
| 01:01.17 | Cidan | I think I can make it easy |
| 01:03.22 | Shirik | you can't poison pf cheng's food |
| 01:03.28 | Shirik | it's so good it nulls out the poison |
| 01:04.14 | Thunder_Child | PF chang? |
| 01:04.35 | Shirik | whatever, chang cheng |
| 01:04.39 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 01:04.44 | Shirik | I'm not chinese, as much as it saddens me to admit it :( |
| 01:05.16 | Thunder_Child | ya, and i am |
| 01:05.20 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if they deliver |
| 01:05.29 | Thunder_Child | 3 blocks is way to far to walk |
| 01:05.41 | Cidan | never been there |
| 01:05.47 | Cidan | we cook our own chinese food |
| 01:05.47 | Thunder_Child | neither have i |
| 01:05.51 | Shirik | ok well then I suggest you let me pay |
| 01:05.58 | Thunder_Child | but there is one 3 blocks away |
| 01:06.07 | Thunder_Child | i just dont like eating at resturants alone |
| 01:06.14 | Shirik | totally agree |
| 01:06.29 | Shirik | it's so lonely |
| 01:06.44 | Shirik | Cidan: You're lucky, I wish I could make chinese food |
| 01:06.44 | Thunder_Child | yes..thats kind awhere the alone part fits in |
| 01:06.47 | Shirik | or any good food |
| 01:06.53 | Shirik | hell, anything other than macaroni and cheese |
| 01:06.55 | Shirik | would be nice |
| 01:10.21 | Cidan | Shirik, what? |
| 01:10.24 | Cidan | You're not paying |
| 01:10.28 | Cidan | we're treating you |
| 01:10.34 | Shirik | I strongly advise against that |
| 01:10.38 | Cidan | Tough shit? |
| 01:10.39 | Shirik | especially if you've never been there before |
| 01:10.42 | Cidan | And? |
| 01:10.56 | Shirik | and the prices are ... slightly higher than the national average of chinese restaurants |
| 01:11.02 | Cidan | Oh noes! |
| 01:11.04 | Cidan | :P |
| 01:11.07 | Cidan | Trust us, it's fine. |
| 01:11.14 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, give it up |
| 01:11.18 | Shirik | right, whom am I kidding, this is the man that has every piece of computer equipment known to man |
| 01:11.22 | Thunder_Child | although i would say the same... |
| 01:11.26 | Shirik | I'll just do what I always do, whisper to the waiter that I'm taking the check |
| 01:11.29 | Shirik | pay while they're not looking |
| 01:11.33 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:11.50 | AnduinLothar | yummy fun. http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/1694/ now works for odd shaped minimaps. don't tell sag |
| 01:12.16 | Cidan | well |
| 01:12.18 | Cidan | if you can |
| 01:12.21 | Cidan | can you download the new update? |
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| 01:12.29 | Cidan | tell me what you think of docking thus far |
| 01:12.35 | Shirik | yeh, and while I'm at it let me go ahead and commit these changes |
| 01:12.39 | Shirik | after fixing the init bug |
| 01:12.43 | Cidan | well update first |
| 01:12.53 | Shirik | I have to, svn forces you to :P |
| 01:13.08 | Thunder_Child | Choice of Two Appetizers, Chinese Chicken Salad, Fried Rice, |
| 01:13.08 | Thunder_Child | Choice of Noodle Dish, Choice of Banquet Chicken, |
| 01:13.08 | Thunder_Child | Choice of Banquet Beef, and Choice of Banquet Seafood, |
| 01:13.08 | Thunder_Child | Two Bags of Chocolate Dipped Fortune Cookies. |
| 01:13.08 | ikhaled | hi all |
| 01:13.11 | Shirik | hi |
| 01:13.11 | Thunder_Child | mmmmm |
| 01:13.14 | Cidan | hi |
| 01:13.42 | Thunder_Child | only $275....try to sneak the tab on that one Shirik |
| 01:13.56 | ikhaled | i have an idea for an addon, i dont have much experience in lua but i do have programming background |
| 01:13.57 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:14.05 | Cidan | ikhaled, okay. |
| 01:14.14 | Shirik | ~pil |
| 01:14.17 | purl | [pil] Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 01:14.19 | Shirik | it is your first and best source of learning Lua |
| 01:14.24 | Shirik | on that note, do you have a specific question? |
| 01:14.54 | ikhaled | well, i wanna make an addon that functions as a tab in the mail window, it will contain "drop boxes" for certain charachters |
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| 01:15.53 | ikhaled | so if i want to mail an item to an alt or friend, i just drop the item in the box with the charachter's name and it will send it |
| 01:16.12 | Cidan | Interesting idea. |
| 01:16.43 | ikhaled | sec, kids :) |
| 01:17.35 | Shirik | I like it too |
| 01:19.53 | ikhaled | ok im back |
| 01:20.30 | ikhaled | is there anything that would prevent the addon from working, maybe technically unfeasible? |
| 01:20.38 | Cidan | no, it should work. |
| 01:20.48 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:21.24 | ikhaled | thats good to know since im not sure what blizzard allows and not |
| 01:23.03 | ikhaled | well, what i want to do is build the interface first (still have to fully figure out xml stuff) and then worry about coding |
| 01:25.23 | ikhaled | my reference for xml is http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface , u guys recommend any other place with good detailed info? |
| 01:25.46 | Shirik | wowwiki.com/API and wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 01:25.52 | Shirik | apart from that, read addons and the blizzard code |
| 01:25.54 | Shirik | those are your best sources |
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| 01:26.06 | ikhaled | ya i will |
| 01:26.37 | Shirik | you don't entirely HAVE to use XML |
| 01:26.44 | Shirik | but for what you're doing it's probably wise |
| 01:26.51 | Shirik | personally, Cidan and myself, we hate XML :P |
| 01:27.35 | ikhaled | hehe i think me too, im just trying to start somewhere thats all |
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| 01:28.27 | ikhaled | i do use a mac tho |
| 01:29.17 | Iriel | ikhaled: That shouldn't matter, addons work on both platforms quite happily |
| 01:29.25 | Bleeter | some would argue that's a head start, as you have a terminal and SVN stuff for developing with |
| 01:29.41 | ikhaled | true lol |
| 01:29.44 | Bleeter | win32 need to download additional tools for that |
| 01:30.13 | Shirik | unless, of course, you already had them |
| 01:30.14 | ikhaled | some tools are available to windows like the ui designer |
| 01:30.24 | Shirik | never touch that thing |
| 01:30.25 | Shirik | ever |
| 01:30.34 | Shirik | well at least not until you get good with GUIs |
| 01:30.42 | ikhaled | ok :P |
| 01:31.07 | Bleeter | Shirik: you mean the blizz designer? |
| 01:31.13 | Shirik | It can create buggy or slightly inaccurate code, and the biggest problem is people using it that have no idea how to code a GUI |
| 01:31.21 | Shirik | and if that happens, you're screwed |
| 01:31.29 | Shirik | best to learn it first, and by then, you'll be like "I don't need that thing!" |
| 01:31.48 | Arrowmaster | from what ive heard the 'wow ui designer' program doesnt work at all |
| 01:31.56 | ikhaled | i'd rather learn how to do it manually first then explore other options when im confident enough |
| 01:32.07 | Shirik | I've only tried it a long long time ago |
| 01:32.14 | Shirik | and I couldn't get any good use out of it so I quit |
| 01:32.20 | Shirik | and tbh I'm glad I did |
| 01:32.23 | Bleeter | Arrowmaster: from my understanding, the Blizz UI designer isn't designed to work with 2.1.x, but with 2.2 |
| 01:32.29 | Shirik | otherwise RDX would confuse the hell out of me |
| 01:32.30 | Bleeter | oh, we're talking bout the 3rd party thing |
| 01:32.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 01:33.03 | Arrowmaster | not 'EditingUI' which is from bliz but completely broken in 2.1 |
| 01:33.33 | Cidan | likely, yes. |
| 01:33.37 | Cidan | New audio system |
| 01:33.45 | Cidan | Doesn't even work on my laptop, I get no sound there. |
| 01:35.11 | Bleeter | Cidan: if you use winecfg to select ALSA output, WoW 2.2 will hang, and about 5 minutes after the hang you'll get a crash that looks awfully like the Vista #132 issue |
| 01:35.29 | Shirik | well MAYBE if somebody didn't think they were too cool for Windows |
| 01:35.32 | Shirik | *cough*Cidan |
| 01:35.45 | Arrowmaster | does OSS work? |
| 01:36.06 | Cidan | wait what? |
| 01:36.08 | Cidan | totally lost |
| 01:36.09 | Bleeter | Arrowmaster: it 'works' insofar as wine decides it's not getting anything useful from the fmod.dll, and disables sound ;) |
| 01:36.11 | Shirik | <3 |
| 01:36.18 | Cidan | Bleeter, I have yet to try it on wine |
| 01:36.22 | Shirik | p.s. update again |
| 01:36.50 | Arrowmaster | OSS = Open Sound System (?) and was the predecessor to ALSA |
| 01:37.10 | Cidan | Why do people disregard OSS? |
| 01:37.15 | Cidan | I never get that |
| 01:37.18 | ikhaled | well i guess i better get started, thanks so much for the information guys |
| 01:37.20 | Cidan | "OSS IS OLD DUN USE IT LOLOL" |
| 01:37.27 | Arrowmaster | because its inferior to ALSA? |
| 01:37.27 | Shirik | vi is old |
| 01:37.29 | Shirik | and it's still god :P |
| 01:37.34 | Cidan | no it's not |
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| 01:37.41 | Cidan | often, OSS works better than Alsa |
| 01:37.42 | Bleeter | Cidan: It's crap at mixing multiple sound sources, gotta mess around with config files and stuff |
| 01:37.54 | Shirik | however, I do have to admit when I'm on ubuntu, I use ALSA |
| 01:37.58 | Shirik | granted neither work usually >.> |
| 01:38.10 | Cidan | As do I, but for some things like say, quake 4, I use OSS |
| 01:38.11 | Cidan | also |
| 01:38.11 | Cidan | uh |
| 01:38.14 | Cidan | code broken |
| 01:38.19 | Bleeter | Cidan: and even after messing around, there's no guarantee it's going to work properly |
| 01:38.21 | Shirik | no it isn't |
| 01:38.22 | Cidan | do you ever like, ctrl+F7? |
| 01:38.27 | Shirik | pebkac |
| 01:38.32 | Shirik | wtf is ctrl+f7 |
| 01:38.42 | Cidan | scite |
| 01:38.43 | Cidan | if you use it |
| 01:38.46 | Cidan | compiles the code |
| 01:38.51 | Shirik | I do tools->compile :P |
| 01:38.52 | Shirik | but yes |
| 01:38.58 | Cidan | 'cause yeah |
| 01:38.59 | Shirik | dude it compiles for me what is wrong >< |
| 01:39.00 | Cidan | it's not loading |
| 01:39.10 | Shirik | MSN me the error and stack trace |
| 01:39.12 | Cidan | Units like 114 |
| 01:39.16 | Shirik | I don't see it |
| 01:39.22 | Cidan | ) expected near amd |
| 01:39.33 | Shirik | I think your svn client is broked |
| 01:39.49 | Shirik | though |
| 01:39.52 | Shirik | I totally see the error |
| 01:39.55 | Shirik | why the heck didn't the error appear |
| 01:40.03 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:40.07 | Cidan | if (skipSignals == false amd not wasNil) then |
| 01:40.08 | Cidan | HMM |
| 01:40.13 | Cidan | I WONDER WHAT IS WRONG |
| 01:40.15 | Cidan | :D |
| 01:40.20 | Shirik | because of your stupid little error handler that goes in between swatter and vfl |
| 01:40.21 | Shirik | shut up! |
| 01:41.20 | Shirik | oh god |
| 01:41.26 | Shirik | did you move Main.lua in the toc to the bottom? |
| 01:41.35 | Cidan | I don't... think so? |
| 01:41.47 | Shirik | I'm totally checking the logs :P But if so, that encounters error is your fault :P |
| 01:42.01 | Cidan | oh |
| 01:42.06 | Cidan | it's ALWAYS been at the bottom |
| 01:42.09 | Cidan | that's how I created it |
| 01:42.19 | Shirik | lies |
| 01:42.21 | Shirik | it moved |
| 01:42.24 | Cidan | when? |
| 01:42.25 | Shirik | you altered the logs |
| 01:42.25 | Cidan | wtf? |
| 01:43.17 | Cidan | I'll write an editbox UI element, then do a real error handler. |
| 01:43.41 | foxlit | Next Episode of Shirik & Cidan: The Developers Duo from Hell - "who moved my files!" |
| 01:43.56 | Shirik | It's like this all day :P |
| 01:44.00 | Cidan | it really is |
| 01:44.01 | Shirik | it's like a married couple |
| 01:44.34 | Shirik | hey foxlit, question for you |
| 01:44.49 | Shirik | is it considered OK programming practice to do "geterrorhandler()(...)" |
| 01:44.57 | Shirik | where ... is some error string |
| 01:45.16 | foxlit | Why don't you do error("boo") |
| 01:45.19 | Rallion | honestly, you guys would be surprised how often I just read you two arguing. |
| 01:45.31 | Cidan | we're not arguing really |
| 01:45.31 | Shirik | Because I don't want to stop the execution path |
| 01:45.38 | Cidan | discussing, is more like it. |
| 01:45.38 | Shirik | But I want it logged |
| 01:45.44 | Shirik | Right now I'm just outputting to chat |
| 01:45.46 | lolinternet | why HELLO THERE :O |
| 01:45.47 | Shirik | but I don't like that |
| 01:45.56 | Cidan | lolinternet, sup sag |
| 01:45.58 | Shirik | I have to pcall this, catch the error |
| 01:46.02 | Shirik | but I want to log the error and continue |
| 01:46.13 | foxlit | ergh |
| 01:46.22 | Cidan | lolinternet, Once shirik stops talking and fixes his code, try the new SVN |
| 01:46.22 | foxlit | "On Error Resume Next" is evil |
| 01:46.28 | Shirik | it's fixed |
| 01:46.31 | Cidan | OH LOOK |
| 01:46.38 | Shirik | foxlit: Well see |
| 01:46.38 | Cidan | JUST IN TIME |
| 01:46.40 | Shirik | Here's the deal |
| 01:46.51 | Shirik | The module manager sends a command to all of its children |
| 01:46.59 | Cidan | dad->son |
| 01:47.03 | Cidan | like that. |
| 01:47.04 | Cidan | clear? |
| 01:47.05 | Shirik | it's not fair if the first child throws an error, preventing all other modules from getting the message |
| 01:47.05 | Cidan | good. |
| 01:47.17 | Shirik | So we pcall it |
| 01:47.18 | Cidan | dad->son(WHIIINEEE) |
| 01:47.21 | Shirik | .... |
| 01:47.36 | Shirik | Anyway, pcall, cool. But how do we see the error if we want to fix it? |
| 01:47.37 | foxlit | Why are both components male? |
| 01:47.40 | Shirik | I'd prefer it goes .....wtf |
| 01:48.02 | Shirik | I'd prefer it goes to the error handler |
| 01:48.07 | Shirik | but I can't error() because that would quit execution |
| 01:48.19 | Cidan | Because daddy doesn't like transvestites? |
| 01:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | [03:46] <Cidan> lolinternet, Once shirik stops talking and fixes his code, try the new SVN <--maybe, when i'm not too tired. |
| 01:48.59 | foxlit | But you still want to use the default error handler? |
| 01:49.17 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, lose. |
| 01:50.06 | Shirik | preferably |
| 01:50.06 | Cidan | Shirik, for saving windows and their positions, I'm going to have to give each one their own ID. Should I just do that behind the scene? |
| 01:50.09 | foxlit | You'd probably be better off using a normal panic function |
| 01:50.18 | Shirik | That's what I have now |
| 01:50.35 | Shirik | which is really nothing more than big red text in the chat window |
| 01:50.49 | Shirik | Conspiracy:Debug("ERROR", "Error during command "..cmd..": "..err); |
| 01:50.49 | foxlit | Add a log to it if you need a log |
| 01:51.13 | foxlit | I wonder if I still have a screenshot |
| 01:51.55 | foxlit | http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7167/fragment2zu.png |
| 01:52.00 | foxlit | Except it wraps properly now |
| 01:52.14 | Cidan | rofl |
| 01:52.16 | Cidan | I love that. |
| 01:52.18 | foxlit | And looks a bit better. I need an updated screenshot. |
| 01:52.20 | Cidan | *love* that |
| 01:53.03 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 01:53.09 | Shirik | p.s. Cidan I was going to do something like that for debug |
| 01:53.18 | Shirik | I wanted to make a chat link you can click on for stack trace, etc. |
| 01:53.22 | Shirik | Just was a lot of work at the time |
| 01:53.40 | Cidan | well the windowing UI is getting there |
| 01:53.45 | Cidan | I think I'm going to skip saving for now |
| 01:53.49 | Cidan | since we really have nothing to save yet |
| 01:54.08 | Cidan | going to move on to the first real functional thing, raid status |
| 01:54.31 | Shirik | ok Cidan I promise r80 works |
| 01:54.37 | Shirik | Now we let #wowi-lounge get back on topic |
| 01:54.43 | Shirik | or whatever form of "on-topic" you can call it |
| 01:55.08 | foxlit | qq, /me wrote a RaidStatus mod |
| 01:55.12 | foxlit | Nobody likes it :P |
| 01:55.35 | Shirik | raidstatus? |
| 01:56.03 | Cidan | yar, total raid hp. mp, people without x buff, people not at your current localtion, people offline, people dead |
| 01:56.04 | Cidan | etc |
| 01:56.13 | foxlit | All of that and then some |
| 01:56.36 | Shirik | people that hate you? |
| 01:56.49 | Shirik | see, if you had written it as a conspiracy module |
| 01:56.51 | Shirik | people would love it |
| 01:56.52 | Shirik | imo |
| 01:57.04 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:57.23 | Cidan | going to make pop-up dialog boxes |
| 01:57.33 | Cidan | with ok/cancel, or just ok |
| 01:57.34 | foxlit | Need something like Growl in wow |
| 01:57.37 | foxlit | psst |
| 01:57.40 | foxlit | StaticPopup |
| 01:57.56 | foxlit | But only if you don't care about styling |
| 01:58.06 | Cidan | pssst, I have my own windowing framework, :P |
| 01:58.22 | Cide | oh, you stole my ideas, foxlit -- creative ;) |
| 01:58.23 | foxlit | psst, I'm considering playing with UIParent:Hide(); |
| 01:58.48 | Cidan | I think after we have something people can use, ie: raid status, I'm going to put the SVN out (but not downloads) |
| 01:58.53 | Cidan | What do you think Shirik? |
| 01:59.46 | foxlit | http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1323/errorfragmentik5.jpg |
| 01:59.48 | Cide | I think you should invent something new |
| 02:00.03 | Cide | not because I originally coded raid status, don't get me wrong |
| 02:00.11 | Cide | but innovative stuff always get you more attention |
| 02:00.27 | foxlit | cide: you did a great job of hiding it, too :) |
| 02:00.32 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:00.35 | Cidan | Cute. |
| 02:00.36 | Cide | because if people want it, they 'have' to get it from you - there are like 5-10 raid status mods now, so people don't switch |
| 02:00.49 | Cide | foxlit: oh well |
| 02:00.56 | Shirik | Cidan: Totally agree |
| 02:01.06 | Shirik | let them see something |
| 02:01.13 | Cidan | Yerp. |
| 02:01.18 | Shirik | perhaps allow people to see the exposed API |
| 02:01.28 | Cidan | Aye, I think it will be nice |
| 02:02.00 | Cidan | Knowing that creating a window is as easy as it is, working with grids has been pretty much made a dumb-as-rocks thing. |
| 02:02.10 | Cidan | units, timers, all of it |
| 02:02.12 | Cidan | stupid easy. |
| 02:02.13 | Cidan | :D |
| 02:02.16 | Shirik | I need dumb as rocks for GUI |
| 02:03.22 | Cidan | well, SetChild pretty much makes it impossible to lose a ref/not recycle |
| 02:04.08 | Cidan | also, bbl |
| 02:05.03 | Thunder_Child | lol @ the pic foxlit |
| 02:11.31 | Rallion | heh, yeah, that's good stuff |
| 02:13.13 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 02:13.22 | sag_ich_nicht | the 4th edition changes actually sound quite good. |
| 02:13.45 | sag_ich_nicht | (D&D) |
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| 02:15.09 | sag_ich_nicht | spell preparing is gone. thank god. |
| 02:18.23 | Arrowmaster | removal of xp cost for crafting |
| 02:18.40 | Arrowmaster | that is all it needed to be better than 3.x |
| 02:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster also that. |
| 02:24.04 | Shirik | hi Cairenn :) |
| 02:24.10 | Cairenn | hey Shirik |
| 02:31.15 | Cairenn | oh, hey, someone told me about a site that was a DIRECT rip of WoWI, I think while I was at BlizzCon - anyone have the link to the site? |
| 02:32.47 | Cairenn | neat, did you guys know that TenTonHammer is apparently hosting a bunch of folks' mods too? http://wow.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=TTHUIRepository&func=search&ptxSearchText= |
| 02:33.21 | Shirik | without authorization? |
| 02:33.34 | Cairenn | ./shrug |
| 02:33.44 | Shirik | I mean, RDX.Cid is GPL'ed, not much we can do |
| 02:33.47 | Shirik | but for others... |
| 02:34.08 | Cairenn | I have no idea, you guys tell me whether they have your permission or not |
| 02:34.33 | sysrage | why do you care who hosts it as long as they aren't claiming it as their own? |
| 02:34.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: shouldn't RDX be LGPL and not GPL? |
| 02:35.00 | Cairenn | sysrage: because that is a violation of author copyright, if they are hosting without permission |
| 02:35.13 | Shirik | GPL |
| 02:35.16 | Shirik | veni's is compatible with GPL |
| 02:35.16 | Cairenn | you aren't allowed to redistribute without express permission |
| 02:35.25 | Shirik | RDX 5 is not RDX 6 and never was on the same license |
| 02:35.30 | Shirik | in fact, RDX 5 has no license, period |
| 02:35.30 | sysrage | okay. i don't understand why anybody would care though |
| 02:36.14 | Cairenn | oi |
| 02:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | blarg |
| 02:36.32 | Shirik | because some people care about that kind of stuff, don't really know how to answer that :) |
| 02:36.32 | sysrage | i'm not arguing with you. just expressing my opinion |
| 02:36.33 | Cairenn | someone else want to field this one? I'm tired of repeating it |
| 02:36.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going insane trying to find a way to properly activate my meta gem |
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| 02:37.12 | Wraanger | which metagem you use ? |
| 02:37.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32409 |
| 02:37.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | getting decent melee gems |
| 02:38.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: no i meant RDX.Cid, shouldn't it be LPGL and not GPL? I'm not sure how much you can consider running it inside of WoW linking it with propritary code, but... |
| 02:38.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a billion reds |
| 02:38.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | yellow and blue are being kind of annoying |
| 02:38.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially blue |
| 02:39.27 | Chaotic_D | what's this channel for? |
| 02:39.41 | Cairenn | Mod dev |
| 02:39.55 | Chaotic_D | compared to #wowace, how is it different? |
| 02:39.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~wowi-lounge |
| 02:40.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's for authors of addons |
| 02:40.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | and those who support their efforts |
| 02:40.17 | Shirik | this could be argued day in and day out |
| 02:40.26 | Shirik | I still feel that WoW addons can be GPL'ed |
| 02:40.36 | Chaotic_D | I'm not an author. I'm just trying to be. |
| 02:40.37 | Shirik | I think I've already had this argument before and I'm not getting into it again |
| 02:40.48 | Cairenn | Chaotic_D: that is a channel specifically for Ace - this is a channel for everyone |
| 02:40.59 | Shirik | that's the simplest way of putting it yes |
| 02:41.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and by support i mean pester them into hating coding and/or possibly jumping off a cliff |
| 02:41.07 | Shirik | but really, most of us come here just for Cairenn |
| 02:41.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | ack, for some reason i was thinking wowhead, not wowace |
| 02:41.17 | Chaotic_D | huh. ok. |
| 02:41.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | my brain had a short lapse |
| 02:41.36 | Wraanger | you kow multi-colored gems counts as both types ? |
| 02:41.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes wraanger |
| 02:41.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:41] <Mr_Rabies2> and by support i mean pester them into hating coding and/or possibly jumping off a cliff <--well... |
| 02:42.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | there are no decent purple, green, etc gems |
| 02:42.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | that i can find |
| 02:42.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | check that list of them there, Wraanger |
| 02:42.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 02:42.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | forgot to link it |
| 02:42.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Cat_Sustained_DPS/Socket.html for a general idea of what's good |
| 02:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | higher on the list is generally better |
| 02:43.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | his stat calculations aren't perfect but they're pretty reliable |
| 02:43.11 | Wraanger | i know that site ) |
| 02:44.55 | Wraanger | which class you play , I forgot ? |
| 02:45.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid |
| 02:45.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is why i'm linking you that :P |
| 02:48.20 | Wraanger | I would say http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30549 , http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30584, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28363, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30546 |
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| 02:50.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 02:50.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate you, sockets |
| 02:51.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | why can't items just have stats allocated properly :[ |
| 02:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | there just aren't enough gems yet to support every class or spec properly so the concept of customization is moot |
| 02:54.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially considering the requirements of meta gems |
| 02:54.43 | Chaotic_D | grrr. for some reason zone_changed() works but not ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA() |
| 02:54.55 | Chaotic_D | going between Un'Goro Crater and TAnaris. |
| 02:59.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 02:59.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ZONE_CHANGED |
| 02:59.12 | sag_ich_nicht | not ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
| 03:00.25 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 03:00.26 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 03:00.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA fires if the text changes |
| 03:00.35 | sag_ich_nicht | so it should fire as well |
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| 03:11.32 | Cidan|afk | RUBBER DUCKY |
| 03:12.01 | Bleeter | wereHamster: some turd at wine decided to close bug #9381 as invalid |
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| 03:17.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ...reopen it, and link me the bugzilla. |
| 03:20.56 | Bleeter | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9381 |
| 03:22.12 | art3mis | perhaps you should say "ingame voice chat sound doesn't function" |
| 03:22.31 | art3mis | because im betting dipshit just spawned wow heard the music for the reg game portions and went "wtf" |
| 03:23.08 | Bleeter | art3mis: no, the issue is that the thing will disable sound, or hang for 5 mins and then crash with what appears to be a very similar error to the random #132 Vista crashes on the PTR at the moment |
| 03:23.43 | Bleeter | art3mis: nah, he just saw the bit in the debug about enabling audio emulation driver, and told me to do that ;) |
| 03:24.09 | Chaotic_D | I heard ZONE_CHANGED and ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA were exclusive to each other. at any rate, ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA just isn't firing off ever. (at least between Un'Goro and Tanaris) |
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| 03:25.24 | sag_ich_nicht | Chaotic_D: did you check using devtools? |
| 03:26.08 | Chaotic_D | no. but I have a function going off for either one. it goes off for ZONE_CHANGED. |
| 03:26.30 | AnduinLothar | i pulled agro on void reaver with salv and tranquil air... |
| 03:26.43 | art3mis | so does everyone have thier battle cry? ... Arthur? uh yeah mines "not in the face, not in the face!" |
| 03:27.12 | |Jelly|__ | AnduinLothar: lol |
| 03:27.46 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: lol. |
| 03:28.11 | AnduinLothar | didn't even have wf |
| 03:28.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ah, i see you have come to your senses :O |
| 03:28.44 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 03:28.52 | AnduinLothar | did i log off in healing gear? |
| 03:28.57 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 03:29.13 | sag_ich_nicht | what i meant is that you respecced and don't use imp. seal of righteous anymore :P |
| 03:29.22 | AnduinLothar | i got a slow 2h |
| 03:29.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i see that :P |
| 03:29.50 | Chaotic_D | devtools won't put a watch on events though, will it? I don't see how devtools will help me out here. |
| 03:30.04 | AnduinLothar | i wanna get the holy tallent and have a ton of fear resistance lol |
| 03:30.11 | Chaotic_D | oh geez, it's right there. n.m |
| 03:30.13 | AnduinLothar | but i'd have to drop the +hit |
| 03:30.16 | sag_ich_nicht | devtools has an event watch Chaotic_D... |
| 03:30.27 | AnduinLothar | er, nm i dont have +hit |
| 03:31.05 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 03:31.08 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 5/0/56; Ruknor wins by 712 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 03:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl. |
| 03:31.35 | sag_ich_nicht | that shouldn't happen, your gear is better than mine |
| 03:31.41 | sag_ich_nicht | unless |
| 03:31.46 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait i logged off in tank equip |
| 03:31.46 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 03:31.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us llane raybeez |
| 03:31.50 | ThraeBot | Mr_Rabies2: Ruknor vs Raybeez! A L70 paladin and a L70 druid square off!; 0/8/53 vs 1/46/14; Ruknor wins by 1101 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 03:31.57 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl. |
| 03:32.00 | sag_ich_nicht | also a lie. |
| 03:32.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd like to dispute this bot |
| 03:32.06 | sag_ich_nicht | so would i. |
| 03:32.17 | Bleeter | lol ThraeBot fails.. I just /msg'd help to it and it bitched about me spamming the #! |
| 03:32.19 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan sodexho us llane raybeez |
| 03:32.19 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: sodexho vs raybeez! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! sodexho and raybeez cannot hold their feelings for each other any longer, and start getting frisky. I suppose make love, not war? |
| 03:32.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 03:32.28 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan sodexho us llane raybeez |
| 03:32.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | @___@ |
| 03:32.29 | Chaotic_D | guh. devtools doesn't seem to be working even though the addon is installed. -_-; |
| 03:32.31 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Sodexho vs Raybeez! Two 70 druids square off!; 0/47/14 vs 1/46/14; Sodexho wins by 39 TBRs! |
| 03:32.44 | sag_ich_nicht | now that was correct. |
| 03:32.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 03:33.00 | AnduinLothar | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 03:33.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could school both of you at once |
| 03:33.02 | ThraeBot | AnduinLothar: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 5/0/56; Ruknor wins by 712 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 03:33.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | >;[ |
| 03:33.11 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 03:33.17 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: i logged off in tank equip, and i wouldn't beat you in tank equip. |
| 03:33.18 | AnduinLothar | doesn't radnomyl gen them |
| 03:33.46 | AnduinLothar | what are TBRs? |
| 03:33.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ~tbr |
| 03:33.53 | purl | tbr is, like, ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other. |
| 03:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
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| 03:34.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i DIDN'T log off in tank equip. |
| 03:34.24 | Bleeter | hah, ThraeBot continues to fail. in /msg, I got a fight finished. re-issued same command, it bitched that my syntax was wrong |
| 03:34.42 | sag_ich_nicht | still, you would win AnduinLothar, not me. this bot is stupid D: |
| 03:34.46 | sag_ich_nicht | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Gul%27dan&n=Ruknor |
| 03:34.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean just go compare the damn equip |
| 03:35.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you have more AP, more crit, more spelldmg, more armor |
| 03:35.26 | sag_ich_nicht | no way in hell i could win |
| 03:35.30 | Chaotic_D | ok, devtools is there. I can do other tools. but for some reason I'm getting an error trying to do /dteventtrace ZONE_CHANGED |
| 03:35.40 | Bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: face it, your skillz r leet |
| 03:35.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ...lol. |
| 03:35.56 | Chaotic_D | oh, I bet it wants something in front of that... |
| 03:36.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 03:36.12 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 03:36.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you are doing it wrong. |
| 03:36.23 | sag_ich_nicht | just do: /dteventtrace |
| 03:36.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and then use the GUI. |
| 03:36.54 | Bleeter | damn, thraebot's now totally refusing to parse my fight anymore lol |
| 03:37.03 | Bleeter | Thrae: soz, I think I broke your bot somewhere >< |
| 03:38.45 | Chaotic_D | huh... ok. so zonechangednewarea is going off... why the hell will my addon catch zonechanged but not ...newarea? |
| 03:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | because you didn't register it? just guessing here. |
| 03:39.32 | Chaotic_D | maybe I can't have function Walkthrough:ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA() and function Walkthrough:ZONE_CHANGED() |
| 03:39.51 | sag_ich_nicht | BS |
| 03:40.26 | Chaotic_D | I can? |
| 03:40.58 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: you happen to have DrDamage installed? i'd like to know your hitchance with CS on a lvl 73 mob |
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| 03:41.55 | AnduinLothar | cs? |
| 03:42.07 | sag_ich_nicht | crusader strike :P |
| 03:42.12 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 03:42.33 | AnduinLothar | i jsut got a 30+hit helm, and i'm gonna put the atp+hit enchant on it for bosses |
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| 03:43.19 | AnduinLothar | with the enchant i'll be at over 8% |
| 03:43.59 | sag_ich_nicht | which is why i'm specced 0/8/53, but it's kind of dumb to not have divine strength D: |
| 03:44.32 | AnduinLothar | yeah i hate having to gem +hit |
| 03:44.55 | AnduinLothar | i hope to get the romio vial so i wont have to |
| 03:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd have to go pure PvE spec to get both but that sucks. D: |
| 03:45.22 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 03:45.38 | AnduinLothar | i'm just gonna get 2 items that i put on for bosses that puts me over 8% |
| 03:46.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 03:46.41 | AnduinLothar | cause the bottom 2 in prot are useless |
| 03:47.16 | sag_ich_nicht | well, redoubt is kind-of-useful when offtanking |
| 03:48.33 | AnduinLothar | meh. i have prolly 70% epics in tank gear |
| 03:48.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll just wait for 2.3, i'll have to respec then anyway :O |
| 03:48.37 | Cidan | can someone lookup the AAAA record of jinked.com for me? |
| 03:48.44 | Cidan | plzplzplz. :P |
| 03:48.46 | sag_ich_nicht | sure |
| 03:48.47 | sag_ich_nicht | hold |
| 03:48.50 | Cidan | thanks |
| 03:49.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you on an IPv6 connection or something? |
| 03:49.14 | Cidan | yesh |
| 03:49.23 | Cidan | just setting up forward/backward dns |
| 03:50.17 | Cidan | woo, opendns shows it, :D |
| 03:50.19 | AnduinLothar | >.< my t4 helm + enchant = 700 mana |
| 03:50.28 | sag_ich_nicht | my DNS lookup is kind of broken. |
| 03:50.30 | AnduinLothar | i lose all of it going to my +hit helm |
| 03:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | 2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:709 |
| 03:51.00 | sag_ich_nicht | there you go Cidan |
| 03:51.06 | Cidan | coolies |
| 03:51.08 | Cidan | works, :D |
| 03:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=%20jinked.com&type=AAAA |
| 03:51.22 | sag_ich_nicht | *cough cough cough* |
| 03:53.06 | AnduinLothar | i prolly shoulda got the +-hit boots enchant |
| 03:53.14 | AnduinLothar | btu i like having snare resist |
| 03:53.34 | sag_ich_nicht | ...i'm going to put cat's swiftness on them. D: |
| 03:53.50 | sag_ich_nicht | saves the talent points :P |
| 03:54.12 | AnduinLothar | the tallents is faster. i really like having the tallent for arenas |
| 03:54.21 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm, no. |
| 03:54.26 | sag_ich_nicht | the talent is 8% walking speed |
| 03:54.29 | sag_ich_nicht | so is the enchant. |
| 03:54.33 | AnduinLothar | enchant is 5% |
| 03:54.36 | sag_ich_nicht | nope. |
| 03:54.51 | AnduinLothar | oh, are the new ones faster than the old one? |
| 03:54.58 | sag_ich_nicht | the old one was also 8% |
| 03:55.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and is, because i run around with it and it's giving me 8%, as verified by speedfu |
| 03:55.17 | AnduinLothar | not unless they buffed it. i did run speed tests before tbc |
| 03:55.26 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 03:55.27 | AnduinLothar | ok |
| 03:55.41 | AnduinLothar | good toknow |
| 03:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you used a broken addon or something? :O |
| 03:56.33 | AnduinLothar | w/e surefooted DOES do the +hit lol |
| 03:56.44 | AnduinLothar | 10 |
| 03:56.59 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 03:57.11 | AnduinLothar | they need a new chest enchant |
| 03:57.21 | AnduinLothar | +10 all stats imo |
| 03:57.28 | AnduinLothar | or +30 str |
| 04:00.15 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 04:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Team 3 is working on Diablo 3 |
| 04:00.21 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/2762/ |
| 04:00.39 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
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| 04:00.43 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 101 mana regen; 91.6 Melee DPS; 14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10); +15 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 114 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
| 04:00.58 | Thrae | Works fine |
| 04:01.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Thrae your bot is broken |
| 04:01.06 | sag_ich_nicht | look at this |
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| 04:01.15 | sag_ich_nicht | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 04:01.17 | ThraeBot | sag_ich_nicht: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 5/0/56; Ruknor wins by 712 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
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| 04:01.28 | sag_ich_nicht | that is not possible. compare the equip. |
| 04:01.42 | Chaotic_D | man, it looks like Diablo 3 will let you pick gender. that'll be so cool. |
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| 04:02.12 | Thrae | !co eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 04:02.14 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; Wraithhammer +1900 HP; Ruknor +0.76% block; Ruknor +46 defense; Ruknor +0.36% dodge; Wraithhammer +7 melee hit; Wraithhammer +26.1 Melee DPS; Wraithhammer +17 resilience; Wraithhammer +33 All Resists; Wraithhammer +1980 Mana; Wraithhammer +51 mana regen; Wraithhammer +228 AP; Wraithhammer +2.44% melee crit; Wraithhammer +246 +spelldmg/hea |
| 04:02.15 | ThraeBot | l; Wraithhammer +2895 Armour; Wraithhammer +14 mp5; Wraithhammer has 6% more stats then Ruknor. |
| 04:02.48 | Chaotic_D | wow. looking at devtool eventtrace is nice. although now that I know I have to register event watching stuff in my addon, it's not so much a mystery why things don't work. :> |
| 04:03.25 | Thrae | hmmm |
| 04:03.34 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 04:03.35 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 04:03.44 | Thrae | !vs eu gul'dan ruknor us kil'jaeden wraithhammer |
| 04:03.46 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Ruknor vs Wraithhammer! Two 70 paladins square off!; 0/8/53 vs 5/0/56; Ruknor wins by 712 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 04:04.27 | Thrae | I'll look at it later. |
| 04:04.35 | sag_ich_nicht | good. |
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| 04:04.52 | sag_ich_nicht | see Cidan ? you're not the only one who's stuff i break. |
| 04:05.42 | Cidan | lol |
| 04:14.34 | Bleeter | damnit, they've close it again |
| 04:14.48 | Bleeter | meh, leaving it closed, building wine from git, then gunna submit a new one |
| 04:16.12 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 04:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Bleeter: reopen it with CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL TO COOL as message and a statement that claiming a Catch-22 is not a solution. |
| 04:17.47 | sag_ich_nicht | "Unless you show that you have properly configured your system (which you can |
| 04:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | not). |
| 04:17.48 | sag_ich_nicht | " |
| 04:18.16 | Bleeter | nah, they'll prolly kick me from winehq if I do that |
| 04:18.27 | Bleeter | I got a bit upset with one of the ops who called me a moron |
| 04:18.42 | sag_ich_nicht | this is why i hate the open source software community. |
| 04:19.02 | Bleeter | which, I freely admit, I probably am... but doesn't help the situation |
| 04:19.31 | Bleeter | that's one reason I'm really happy being involved with norganna's open source stuff. they're the first team I've been involved with whose lead don't truly suck |
| 04:19.42 | Bleeter | *lead and owner |
| 04:20.08 | Bleeter | hah |
| 04:20.28 | Bleeter | apparently there's some pre-existing bug anyway kinda of related to all this, in wine, but no one can give me the bug # |
| 04:21.13 | Bleeter | and now they're carrying on about how git is so sexy... /sigh |
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| 04:42.39 | Thunder_Child | no, catch-22 is a lifestyle |
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| 04:54.56 | Bleeter | anyone know if there's a config.wtf to *disable* voice input (ie, dsound capture)? |
| 04:55.00 | Bleeter | wrt 2.2 |
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| 04:56.04 | art3mis | i would assume so |
| 04:56.16 | art3mis | there's a wiki page for it as well so it "might" be on there |
| 04:56.53 | Corrodias | this is the third time that taking the zep from grom'gol to org has disconnected me |
| 04:58.03 | Wobwork | Bleeter: How goes the 2.2 wine usage? |
| 04:58.04 | Thunder_Child | browse the ptr config.wtf file |
| 04:58.29 | Wobwork | ahah, rule 34 on xkcd |
| 04:58.46 | Thunder_Child | SET Sound_VoiceChatInputDriverName "Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)" |
| 04:58.46 | Thunder_Child | SET Sound_VoiceChatOutputDriverName "Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)" |
| 04:59.22 | Thunder_Child | oops |
| 04:59.27 | Thunder_Child | line 87 SET EnableVoiceChat "1" |
| 05:01.46 | Bleeter | Thunder_Child: thanks for looking at that... once I'm done on this backup, and an initial test (which I'm expecting will fail), I'll try setting EnableVoiceChat "0" |
| 05:02.13 | Wobwork | Bleeter: not so good? =\ |
| 05:02.21 | Thunder_Child | np..whats the object? |
| 05:02.40 | art3mis | knowing that crossover and cedga are wine derived are they fairing any better? |
| 05:02.50 | Bleeter | Wobwork: we had made a little progress, insofar as talking to the Wine sound guy, filed a bug report, which one of the leads promptly closed because he hadn't seen the discussion with the audio guy |
| 05:03.14 | Bleeter | Wobwork: so I'm now building Wine from git, 'coz that's what this lead person wanted, gunna retest watch it fail again, then open a new report ;) |
| 05:03.22 | Bleeter | *then* I'll try the voicechat |
| 05:03.42 | Bleeter | art3mis: Cedega seems to also be failing, albeit a little further along in the fmod initialisation |
| 05:04.01 | Bleeter | art3mis: Cedega and Wine do *not* share DirectX code bases |
| 05:04.05 | art3mis | We've partnered with DIRECTV to offer a great value to World of Warcraft players and new DIRECTV customers. Between now and November 30, 2007, players who sign up for DIRECTV will receive 11 months of World of Warcraft FREE! New DIRECTV customers who aren't already World of Warcraft subscribers will also receive a free copy of the World of Warcraft game client. Visit DIRECTV’s Championship Gaming Series site to learn more about this s |
| 05:04.07 | art3mis | wtf? |
| 05:05.25 | Bleeter | art3mis: iirc, Cedega was forked specifically because at the time of the fork, the Wine folks wanted to concentrate on getting lowere level stuff fixed, Cedega wanted DirectX |
| 05:07.34 | Bleeter | yeah, directv... woot |
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| 05:12.42 | Iriel | It's probably just a gift card |
| 05:13.04 | MentalPower | prolly |
| 05:27.53 | Wobwork | DirectV? |
| 05:28.04 | Wobwork | bizzare |
| 05:29.06 | Iriel | It just depends whether their marketing folks figure out that it may be a good incentive |
| 05:29.29 | Wobwork | oh |
| 05:29.32 | Wobwork | direcTV |
| 05:29.57 | Wobwork | I was wondering if it were some precursor to DirectX =P |
| 05:29.58 | Bleeter | probably not, given paytv and broadband blows goats over this way |
| 05:30.02 | Bleeter | lol Wobwork |
| 05:30.03 | Wobwork | s'true |
| 05:30.23 | Shirik | heh, I'm sitting here in a dark room thinking everyone's asleep |
| 05:30.32 | Shirik | my door flies wide open and something jumps on my lap |
| 05:30.39 | Shirik | I'm like "wtf" it's my dog, he's scared of the storm coming through |
| 05:30.40 | Wobwork | Is it... |
| 05:30.47 | Wobwork | oh |
| 05:30.51 | Wobwork | you didn't let us guess |
| 05:30.58 | Wobwork | dog would have been my third choice =P |
| 05:30.59 | Shirik | I was afraid of guesses after that |
| 05:31.08 | Shirik | oh crap |
| 05:31.16 | Wobwork | literally? |
| 05:31.16 | Shirik | and now I hear a squeaky toy from the other room, must be the other one >.> |
| 05:31.37 | Shirik | your first being |
| 05:31.51 | Wobwork | << |
| 05:31.52 | Wobwork | >> |
| 05:31.56 | Wobwork | never mind |
| 05:32.04 | Shirik | I know what it is, you just won't say it |
| 05:32.13 | Wobwork | Then I don't need to say it, do I? =) |
| 05:32.18 | Shirik | yes you do |
| 05:33.11 | Wobwork | actually, my mind is so fried on caffiene I can't come up with something amusing, your guess will undoubtedly be much better than anything I can come up with =) |
| 05:33.26 | Bleeter | Wobwork: so... to the *vital* issue of today |
| 05:33.37 | Mike-N-Go | [Cobra Scales] droprate is so low.. |
| 05:33.43 | Shirik | that's the vital issue? |
| 05:33.47 | Wobwork | I get at least 5 each farming run |
| 05:33.52 | Bleeter | Kevin Rudd: Now a shoe-in to be PM after admitting to being so drunk he can't remember much of going to a strip club four years ago? |
| 05:33.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | obviously the cobras are sick |
| 05:34.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they have no scales |
| 05:34.11 | Wobwork | Mr_Rabies: I've said that about murloc heads |
| 05:34.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | perhaps they weren't high enough quality |
| 05:34.31 | Bleeter | dunno what it is about murloc heads, drop rate the other day was fine (~20%) |
| 05:34.32 | Wobwork | Bleeter: Well all our pollies are drunkards, it seems =P |
| 05:34.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | for aspiring adventurers |
| 05:34.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | or vendors |
| 05:35.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | "you know, this murloc head seems to be about half as large as the rest, i doubt that'll sell well" |
| 05:35.24 | Bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1133914805&sid=1 |
| 05:35.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | alternatively it got frozen/burnt/chopped/etc beyond use |
| 05:35.33 | Bleeter | thoughts, comments? (not general forum, a suggestion I made) |
| 05:35.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but a cobra not having any scales? |
| 05:35.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that takes a lot of effort |
| 05:36.08 | Bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: dragon whelp things that carried coins and were unskinnalbe... ;) |
| 05:36.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | they were obviously cursed people |
| 05:38.51 | Shirik | night guys |
| 05:38.56 | Bleeter | gnight Shirik |
| 05:39.29 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 05:39.38 | Wobwork | "Were there seminaked women there?" |
| 05:39.44 | Wobwork | In a strip club? |
| 05:39.45 | Wobwork | Naaaah |
| 05:40.05 | Bleeter | to be honest, I'm kinda concerned about the creatures in WoW.... most centaurs appear to have no ears, headless murlocs, scale-less cobras... list is endless. |
| 05:40.48 | Mike-N-Go | Bleeter: Also, why don't all animals have body parts? |
| 05:40.49 | Wobwork | QC is obviously lacking |
| 05:40.55 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 05:41.07 | Wobwork | on the MUD I coded for, you could cut body parts from anything =) |
| 05:41.21 | Wobwork | One of my friends had a collection of every single type of nose there was in the game |
| 05:41.22 | Chaotic_D | reptile women with mamallian breasts! cats and dogs living together! MASS hysteria! |
| 05:41.22 | Mike-N-Go | The drop rate is less then 100% on most things that should have all body parts, I mean, what bird is fetherless? |
| 05:41.45 | Wobwork | And you had to harvest eyes and such for spell components |
| 05:42.06 | Chaotic_D | it's not that they don't have those parts. it's whether the part is in any salvagable condition after you've beaten the creature to death. :> |
| 05:42.38 | Wobwork | well surely if you're after ears, you're not going to beat the animal around the head |
| 05:42.41 | Chaotic_D | but you didn't actually say you cast the spell! |
| 05:42.42 | Bleeter | Chaotic_D: ah, so it's whether one's clumsy with the beating? 'Oh, i need ears... better not hit them 'round the head then!' |
| 05:42.48 | Wobwork | nor is it going to swing it's head into your weapon |
| 05:43.27 | Wobwork | 'cut eyes from corpse with dagger' |
| 05:43.27 | Chaotic_D | hey. there's not option in game to deliberately avoid hitting an animal in order to get a part you want. you just gotta deal with it. :> |
| 05:43.54 | Wobwork | You should get better droprates if your weapon skill is high for your level =) |
| 05:43.55 | Mike-N-Go | Chaotic_D: But, after you skin it, the corpse disipears. |
| 05:44.02 | Mike-N-Go | Does this not hint you skined it all? |
| 05:44.19 | Chaotic_D | I forget if it was just rumor... I think it was... that in Saga of Ryzom if you used a different type of weapon (blunt VS slashing) that you could get better and/or more quality body parts. :> |
| 05:44.42 | Mike-N-Go | Chaotic_D: What about blood? |
| 05:44.44 | Wobwork | cause crushing someone to death does less damage to body parts than cutting them up? |
| 05:45.11 | Mike-N-Go | Shouldn't any weapon yield blood? |
| 05:45.20 | Wobwork | poison? |
| 05:45.25 | zenzelezz | maybe they die from internal bleeding |
| 05:45.25 | Chaotic_D | meh. I dunno. I don't know if it was blunt or slashing that was supposedly better. but like I said, I think it was just rumor based purely on logical conjecture that turned out to be false. |
| 05:45.28 | Wobwork | asphyxiation? |
| 05:45.29 | sysrage | fire might not |
| 05:45.34 | Mike-N-Go | But if you, say, fire-blasted it to death.. wouldn't that dry up the blood? |
| 05:45.58 | Wobwork | I love the centaur skin rugs |
| 05:46.01 | Chaotic_D | only if it was burnt all the way through. :> fire damage VS total HP? |
| 05:46.07 | Wobwork | they're just classy |
| 05:46.28 | Chaotic_D | who has centaur skin rugs? |
| 05:46.36 | Chaotic_D | and what do they look like? |
| 05:46.44 | Wobwork | Horde =) |
| 05:46.51 | Wobwork | It's the entire centaur |
| 05:47.11 | Wobwork | head to the ... hm, valley of something in Org, where the mining trainer is |
| 05:47.22 | Wobwork | he's in a hut with a centaur skin rug I think |
| 05:47.30 | Chaotic_D | the starting zone? |
| 05:47.34 | Mike-N-Go | I wish I could craft [Fuzzy Gnome Slippers], made of gnome from PvP; skiable humans! |
| 05:47.35 | Chaotic_D | oh, you said org. |
| 05:47.36 | Wobwork | nah, in Org |
| 05:47.41 | Thunder_Child | cant remember the name of the place but you can remember the rug.... |
| 05:47.55 | Wobwork | It's not something you forget =) |
| 05:48.01 | Thunder_Child | so it seems |
| 05:48.03 | Wobwork | and Org is full of Valley of X |
| 05:48.12 | Wobwork | it's hard to tell them apart |
| 05:48.19 | Chaotic_D | still, mining trainer narrows it down. |
| 05:49.48 | Mike-N-Go | Honor |
| 05:50.01 | Mike-N-Go | Vally of honor the mining trainer is. |
| 05:50.27 | sysrage | being a frost mage i should get perfectly preserved body parts |
| 05:51.22 | Wobwork | unless they shatter |
| 05:51.23 | Mike-N-Go | Yah, they should even last longer. |
| 05:51.32 | Wobwork | like frostbite |
| 05:52.02 | Wobwork | and stuff like eyes wouldn't take to being frozen and melted well |
| 05:52.05 | Mike-N-Go | ouch |
| 05:52.08 | Chaotic_D | there's just no getting around it. you HAVE to damage something in order to kill it. such a shame. ;> |
| 05:52.21 | zenzelezz | kill their morale |
| 05:52.33 | Wobwork | garotte them |
| 05:52.35 | Chaotic_D | I mean, unless you're so overpowered in comparison, that you can cleanly decapitate it in a single blow. |
| 05:52.40 | Mike-N-Go | What I don't get is why mages don't have conjure campfire, to allow the caster and his friends to cook food =D |
| 05:53.34 | sysrage | we don't really have control over the fire.. i guess that's why we fry bodies so bad that we can't recover body parts |
| 05:53.37 | Chaotic_D | first it's food and water, then a campfire. next thing you know people will be begging them to summon the castle. |
| 05:53.41 | Wobwork | I don't see why conjure water/food doesn't crit =( |
| 05:53.56 | Chaotic_D | heheheh. |
| 05:54.05 | Mike-N-Go | Well, wouldn't they have to conjure the stones, too? |
| 05:54.18 | sysrage | we do conjure stones |
| 05:54.46 | Mike-N-Go | Where does the bottle come form? |
| 05:54.50 | sysrage | mana gems... sharing cooldown with health stones.. makes baby jesus cry |
| 05:54.52 | Wobwork | magic |
| 05:55.10 | Wobwork | sysrage: it's on par with potions I guess |
| 05:55.16 | Mike-N-Go | They conjur the bottle, too. |
| 05:55.18 | Wobwork | You either regen mana or health but not both |
| 05:55.54 | Mike-N-Go | [Super Rejuvenation Potion] |
| 05:56.02 | Mike-N-Go | Rejuvenation potions do both. |
| 05:56.54 | Chaotic_D | is there somewhere I can see what the graphics look like for the user interface? I unpacked the art with the blizzard tool thingie. hrm... I bet photoshop will do it. it's just so many files that I have to load individually. |
| 05:57.35 | Chaotic_D | bah. IrfanView can't read .blp. useless. |
| 05:59.52 | Chaotic_D | aw jeez! I thought photoshop could load blp! |
| 06:00.09 | Thunder_Child | Chaotic_D http://perso.orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enhome.html |
| 06:07.53 | Chaotic_D | thanks. hrm. some of the images load glitchy. |
| 06:13.13 | Bleeter | *new* WoW Wine 2.2 bug report -> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9386 (as per the specification requested by some moron in #winehq) |
| 06:13.24 | Antiarc | Vashj down. |
| 06:13.43 | zenzelezz | grats |
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| 06:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | grats. now fixd the zoning bug1 |
| 06:27.59 | sag_ich_nicht | +! |
| 06:28.14 | sag_ich_nicht | **! |
| 06:28.21 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it this connection lags. |
| 06:37.35 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: wine 0.9.43 has hit the fedora testing repositories |
| 06:38.18 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: not that it'll help with WoW 2.2, but figured I'd let ya know nonetheless ;) |
| 06:42.42 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|afk nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 06:43.15 | Esamynn | ????????? |
| 06:43.46 | Thunder_Child | she went afk and i was bored |
| 06:44.10 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 06:44.16 | Esamynn | good night Cairenn|afk |
| 06:44.32 | Bleeter | hah @ current xkcd.com ... double hah that they've registered and are operating the domain mentioned |
| 06:45.25 | Wobwork | from last year, even =P |
| 06:45.57 | Wobwork | Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) |
| 06:45.58 | Wobwork | Domain Name: WETRIFFS.COM |
| 06:45.58 | Wobwork | Created on: 25-Feb-07 |
| 06:45.58 | Wobwork | Expires on: 26-Feb-08 |
| 06:46.03 | Wobwork | er |
| 06:46.05 | Wobwork | not last year |
| 06:46.11 | Wobwork | beginning of said year =P |
| 06:47.26 | Corrodias | i'm seeing a pattern |
| 06:47.35 | Corrodias | i think EVERY time i take the zep from grom to org, i get disconnected |
| 06:49.46 | Wobwork | perhaps... |
| 06:49.51 | Wobwork | you shouldn't do that |
| 06:50.20 | Wobwork | fly to UC then take the zep from there =) |
| 06:53.48 | Corrodias | that's what i'm going to have to do |
| 06:54.01 | Corrodias | i just logged back in just in time to get sent back to STV |
| 06:54.12 | Wobwork | well, you can zep to UC |
| 06:55.03 | Corrodias | exactly |
| 07:00.05 | Bleeter | for the record, disabling voice chat in the config.wtf doesn't help |
| 07:15.40 | art3mis | http://break.com/index/the-front-fell-off.html |
| 07:16.31 | Thunder_Child | Bleeter, what are you trying to do? |
| 07:16.49 | Bleeter | should be noted that the 'australian senator' there is probably John Clarke, a well known comedian ;) |
| 07:18.00 | Bleeter | Thunder_Child: (1) not have WoW 2.2 crash under wine (2) when it doesn't crash, have it produce audio |
| 07:18.24 | Bleeter | I don't really mind (1), 'cept the crash itself appears awfully similar to the 'random' vista audio crashes reported on the PTR forum |
| 07:18.37 | Thunder_Child | hmm..now that i havent had |
| 07:18.52 | Thunder_Child | although i havent played on the ptr much |
| 07:19.04 | Bleeter | seems to be some issue in the new fmod.dll |
| 07:19.48 | Bleeter | there was a bug reported fixed on the fmod forum that, possibly, could be the cause. hwoever it was reported fixed about two days before the file creation date of the current PTR fmod... so, a bit unsure on that |
| 07:20.34 | Thunder_Child | why are there multiple downloads when they dont tell you what each one is |
| 07:20.52 | Bleeter | on the PTR? |
| 07:20.57 | Thunder_Child | like i know the diff between wine-dlls-0.9.14-mingw.zip and wine-dlls-0.9.14.zip |
| 07:21.59 | Bleeter | oh, wine... no idea. law unto themselves, methinks ;) |
| 07:23.08 | Bleeter | was that a sarcastic comment? |
| 07:23.21 | Thunder_Child | no...i dont actualy know |
| 07:23.58 | Bleeter | built by different compilers, one I assume a native M$ tool or similar, the other with Mingw |
| 07:24.32 | Bleeter | Mingw is a minimum set of gnu stuff you can use to build Win32 capable applications. EG, install Mingw on your linux box and you can build Win32 apps. |
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| 07:25.49 | Thunder_Child | huh..thanks |
| 07:26.43 | Punkie` | You're welcome |
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| 07:56.22 | Maldivia | heh... the D3 rumors are alive again |
| 07:57.41 | Bleeter | did they every truly die? |
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| 08:19.21 | Maldivia | Bleeter: dunno... but a 403 Forbidden, like the wow.com/wrath gave a few days before BlizzCon, apparently gave them a renewed life :) |
| 08:20.06 | Wobin | anyone got a vent server I can test stuff on? |
| 08:22.08 | Thunder_Child | why does typeing anything in after blizzard.com ask me to save it? |
| 08:24.58 | Bleeter | Thunder_Child: they haven't set the appropritate MIME type for their 'not found' page lol |
| 08:25.09 | Nom- | Sign Up for DIRECTV and Receive 11 Months of World of Warcraft FREE! |
| 08:25.11 | Nom- | WTF?!?!?! |
| 08:25.19 | Thunder_Child | blizzard fails |
| 08:25.32 | Bleeter | Cairenn|afk: I suggest adding to /topic 'don't mention directv please!' |
| 08:25.41 | Bleeter | Nom-: aye, you're about the 10th person to point it out |
| 08:25.51 | Nom- | Coz I only just saw it lol |
| 08:26.01 | Nom- | I'm waiting for someone to fix a problem with their code |
| 08:26.11 | Nom- | So i've got a few minutes to troll forums, and just saw it |
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| 08:27.04 | Nom- | I'm just looking into what it costs to subscribe now |
| 08:27.15 | Nom- | If it works out cheaper, I will, if for no other reason than to save some $$$ |
| 08:28.17 | Nom- | hmm |
| 08:28.34 | Nom- | After browsing their web site for 5 minutes, i'm still not sure what DIRECTV does... |
| 08:28.43 | Thunder_Child | dish tv |
| 08:28.55 | Thunder_Child | used to have net connection but they dropped it |
| 08:29.09 | Nom- | oh lol |
| 08:29.10 | Bleeter | Nom-: something we'll never truly get down this way ;) |
| 08:29.19 | Nom- | the web site the promotion is on has NOTHING to do with directtv |
| 08:29.48 | Nom- | ah yeah figures |
| 08:30.01 | Nom- | I knew AUS would get shafted on that one |
| 08:30.15 | Thunder_Child | is it just me ore does http://www.thecgs.com/index.php?s=content&page=blizzard not have any content? |
| 08:30.25 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 08:30.27 | Nom- | It has a big picture |
| 08:30.31 | Bleeter | well, not really... all it says is the ordered service has to be activated.. doesn't list country restrictions ;) |
| 08:30.32 | Thunder_Child | didnt load the first time |
| 08:30.41 | Nom- | I got confused, because thecgs.com has nothing to do with directv.com |
| 08:31.51 | Thunder_Child | huh...looks like they got their net service back |
| 08:32.06 | Thunder_Child | or maybe it's a partnership... |
| 08:41.22 | Bleeter | doesn't murdoch own it? |
| 08:42.37 | Thunder_Child | own directtv? |
| 08:42.42 | Thunder_Child | dont know |
| 08:43.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was |
| 08:43.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | In November 2006, News Corp. has reportedly agreed to transfer its interest in DirecTV Group to John Malone's Liberty Media. In return it will buy back Liberty's shares in News Corp., giving the Murdoch family tighter control of the latter firm. |
| 08:43.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | also |
| 08:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | why isn't my armory updating O_o |
| 08:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Raybeez |
| 08:44.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hasn't updated since aug 14 |
| 08:44.15 | Nom- | yeah, it seems to lag behind lately |
| 08:44.21 | Nom- | probably due to the server issues |
| 08:44.33 | Nom- | A number of servers are having 'issues' |
| 08:50.10 | Nom- | fkkkkk |
| 08:50.12 | Nom- | another week with no arena |
| 08:50.15 | Nom- | Q_Q |
| 08:51.39 | Nom- | woot we're #13 on our realm now :D |
| 08:51.45 | Nom- | http://wowjutsu.com/us/stormscale/ |
| 08:51.51 | Nom- | Go the Magtheridon farmage |
| 08:53.00 | vvandort | ehm. sorry for asking again, but i hope maybe now there's someone here who might know: is there any api call to get a party member's zone/location? |
| 08:53.27 | nevcairiel | there is |
| 08:53.52 | Nom- | next guild is only 1 boss kill ahead of us... hopefully we'll get Tidewalker tonight :) |
| 08:54.40 | vvandort | nevcairiel: do you know the function's name? i couldn't find anything on wowwiki (except for raids) |
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| 09:18.21 | vvandort | hm |
| 09:28.10 | Nom- | Hey, anyone know the attack speed of the murlocs in tidewalker's room ? |
| 09:28.22 | Nom- | I know they hit for about 400 on plate, but i'm wondering how quick |
| 09:28.37 | Nom- | Trying to work out if I can aoe tank both packs :) |
| 09:30.46 | Nom- | We're hoping so, because we only have one prot pally... :/ |
| 09:31.25 | [dRaCo] | have a healadin tank 'em |
| 09:32.04 | [dRaCo] | works if his def gear is halfway decent |
| 09:32.10 | Nom- | Use Method 2 only if your protection paladin has over 13-14k health fully buffed and flasked with Fortification and a decent amount of Block/Parry/Dodge mitigation. |
| 09:32.13 | Nom- | pfft |
| 09:32.23 | Nom- | I've got more health than some of our warriors! |
| 09:32.34 | Nom- | Like 17K without a flask, but all raid buffs |
| 09:32.35 | [dRaCo] | 14k is indeed not that much |
| 09:32.39 | Matrix110 | 1pala can easily tank both packs |
| 09:32.44 | Nom- | good stuff |
| 09:32.48 | Nom- | Looking forward to it |
| 09:33.02 | Matrix110 | but running 2steps back if a mage frostnovas helps lowering dmg quite alot:P |
| 09:33.52 | Nom- | that's actually not a good idea |
| 09:34.05 | Nom- | coz if you're out of melee range, anyone who steps into melee range gets whacked |
| 09:34.23 | [dRaCo] | you might wanna have some limited invulnerability pots handy... maybe stoneskin totems |
| 09:34.25 | Nom- | They like swatting clothies |
| 09:34.39 | Nom- | Nah, i'll just throw up blessing of sanctuary |
| 09:35.04 | Nom- | Sanc + Retribution Aura + Consecration + Lots of Heals = AoE tank heaven |
| 09:35.46 | [dRaCo] | if your healers can heal through the damage, sure... |
| 09:36.42 | [dRaCo] | if not, totems and pots help |
| 09:37.02 | Industrial | hmm, "Believe in the you that believes in you", makes me happy reading it :-) |
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| 09:37.43 | Nom- | Our healers are leet |
| 09:37.57 | Nom- | Healing has *never* been a problem on our raids, i'm glad to say |
| 09:38.23 | [dRaCo] | lucky you |
| 09:39.09 | Nom- | Indeed |
| 09:39.45 | [dRaCo] | got that darkmoon card? |
| 09:39.50 | Nom- | I wish :( |
| 09:40.44 | [dRaCo] | I'd bet it creates ridiculous amounts of threat on that fight |
| 09:42.28 | Nom- | quite probably |
| 09:42.39 | Nom- | I wish I could get it, but 1. No darkmoon faire at the moment |
| 09:42.47 | Nom- | 2. I can't afford the cards, they're insanely priced |
| 09:43.16 | Nom- | Fingers crossed my patterns will drop tonight in SSC though, i'm so looking forward to them |
| 09:45.09 | [dRaCo] | good luck with that |
| 09:46.02 | Nom- | I'll get them, it's just a matter of time |
| 09:46.05 | [dRaCo] | yeah, our tanks kept complaining 'bout the prices, too... but they nevertheless spent those 1k gold ^^ |
| 09:50.27 | Nom- | yeah, they're so worth it |
| 09:50.35 | Nom- | Best you'll get before BT |
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| 13:08.31 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 ToC: 20100 | RTFPN please | a little frisky hamster, hopped up on sugar and crack - Tierrie |
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| 13:11.52 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy is queen! Long Live the Monday Queen! |
| 13:20.35 | Industrial | hurrrrray! \o/ |
| 13:21.24 | |Jelly| | Wait. What? Monday queen?! |
| 13:21.39 | |Jelly| | I didn't know Monday was celebrated. |
| 13:21.43 | Industrial | mondays suck |
| 13:25.04 | Cairenn|afk | ~today |
| 13:25.05 | purl | somebody said today was may the forth be with you |
| 13:25.15 | Cairenn|afk | ~mondays |
| 13:25.15 | purl | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
| 13:25.35 | Cairenn|afk | okay, someone messed with purl |
| 13:25.52 | Industrial | ya :( |
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| 13:30.49 | Lopeppeppy | Poor Purl. And poor Pep... I'm just trying to make the best of my Monday, such as it sucky-is. |
| 13:31.06 | |Jelly| | Aww Peppy! We still <3 you! |
| 13:31.14 | |Jelly| | ......even if you do like Mondays. |
| 13:32.00 | Bleeter | don't worry, only 30 mins of monday remain |
| 13:32.33 | Lopeppeppy | I hate Mondays, don't get me wrong. Being queen of Monday is like.... King of the Sludge Heap. |
| 13:32.44 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 13:33.22 | Lopeppeppy | That which does not kill us makes us strong enough to kill it. |
| 13:33.37 | |Jelly| | So what you're saying is, we need to kill Monday? |
| 13:33.49 | Lopeppeppy | Of course. |
| 13:34.13 | |Jelly| | I like where you're doing with this but could you elaborate on exactly how to kill...a day? |
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| 13:35.04 | Lopeppeppy | Hire Bun-Bun. Didn't he off a number of holidays? |
| 13:37.15 | |Jelly| | I love when groups refuse to have two of a certain class. |
| 13:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | "No thanks, we've already got one, it's very nice!" |
| 13:38.01 | |Jelly| | "[W From] <Cowgosmoo>: soz bro hav a rogue" but close enough. |
| 13:38.11 | art3mis | what?! |
| 13:38.29 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: can we come up and have a look? |
| 13:38.48 | Lopeppeppy | It's a wooden rabbit, art3mis, you can see it from quite a distance. |
| 13:39.14 | Lopeppeppy | My grouping pet peeve lately has been being kicked out of groups that I'm invited to, because they kept looking and found a priest. |
| 13:39.30 | art3mis | did you mention that you had tits? |
| 13:39.51 | |Jelly| | lol...I've been kicked out of groups for paladins before. : / |
| 13:40.14 | art3mis | ive only been kicked out of groups for umm, well never cuz im a priest |
| 13:40.22 | |Jelly| | As am I |
| 13:40.28 | art3mis | im a sp |
| 13:40.36 | art3mis | im there for one reason only ;P |
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| 13:40.46 | |Jelly| | Ahh...the paladin's bed buddy. |
| 13:40.47 | art3mis | ie they couldnt find a lock ;P |
| 13:41.44 | Lopeppeppy | I should be so lucky as to have such a friend! But no, I have lots of warlocks to play with, when I get to play with them. |
| 13:42.07 | Lopeppeppy | I had a shaman in my group for the first time yesterday -- my raid group has been stingy because they say I'm good enough without his totems.... I'm addicted. |
| 13:45.08 | |Jelly| | <3 my shaman |
| 13:45.41 | art3mis | you just like being able o strout hardwood all around you ata moments notice |
| 13:45.58 | art3mis | sprout even |
| 13:46.14 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
| 13:46.21 | Lopeppeppy | The mana regen totem... I was like some healing battery. |
| 13:46.36 | art3mis | heh you need to get yerself a sp |
| 13:47.15 | |Jelly| | You're already a paladin. What more do you want? Every heal is 50% return? |
| 13:47.18 | |Jelly| | 60* |
| 13:47.20 | Lopeppeppy | Priests are very thin on the ground of late on my server. I think perhaps there was a transfer again and some left. |
| 13:47.42 | art3mis | you need a better server |
| 13:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | My crit rate isn't all that high, sadly. I've made some choices between +heal and +crit when Illumination was being nerfed more, and I haven't swung the gear back yet. |
| 13:48.51 | |Jelly| | IMO, we should trade. You get a 6% or whatever chance at a free heal and I'll take 60% return on my crits. I wont bitch. |
| 13:49.15 | art3mis | heh i love my shadowweave set scroll |
| 13:49.23 | art3mis | specially during ve |
| 13:49.37 | art3mis | seeing little 9's and 10's scroll up makes me giggle |
| 13:49.59 | Lopeppeppy | I set my SCT a bit higher, so I wouldn't see my Judgements on screen. |
| 13:50.14 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 13:57.08 | |Jelly| | yay! my rogue got a group! Maybe I'll hit 40 afterall! |
| 13:57.19 | Lopeppeppy | *cheer* |
| 13:57.32 | |Jelly| | By the way, PTR...mace/sword spec is full of lulz. |
| 13:57.33 | Lopeppeppy | Make many good stabbity, |Jelly| ! |
| 13:57.40 | |Jelly| | IN YOUR HONOR! |
| 13:57.52 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 13:58.05 | |Jelly| | I'm going to make a macro that says "FOR PEPPY!" every time I eviscerate |
| 13:58.09 | bleeter | hmm.. stabby jelly.. interesting concept. |
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| 14:00.17 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.39 | Lopeppeppy | I think so.... I've never been a macro-understander, sadly. |
| 14:02.27 | bleeter | |Jelly|: you're missing the vital 'bug' which spams it and has you /say'ing 'omg sorry dunno how to stop this!' |
| 14:02.46 | bleeter | gnight all |
| 14:02.52 | |Jelly| | Night |
| 14:03.09 | Lopeppeppy | One of my mage friends had that the other night, with a /stopcasting line in something. Funny, funny, funny. |
| 14:03.49 | bleeter | you guys prolly missed it, shirik had a typo in some code he had, and was sending addon messages to some poor toon called 'Get' who eventually asked him to stop it =)) |
| 14:04.07 | |Jelly| | haha |
| 14:04.43 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww.... I'm glad that Get messaged Shirik instead of just reporting him! |
| 14:05.10 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
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| 14:11.39 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.45 | |Jelly| | SCT was just like ENVENOM! |
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| 14:12.58 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 14:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | I'm proud that SCT recognizes the skill that... er... isn't on my hotbar at all. |
| 14:13.37 | |Jelly| | That I don't have. |
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| 14:20.40 | |Jelly| | It hasn't yelled FOR PEPPY once. 8( |
| 14:21.24 | haste | you lack a end |
| 14:25.05 | |Jelly| | hahaha |
| 14:26.43 | |Jelly| | it's happened twice now. lol |
| 14:27.18 | |Jelly| | I have a screenshot for you. |
| 14:27.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 14:27.42 | |Jelly| | waiting onm my group to be like wtf? |
| 14:27.56 | Lin | there is any goo Threat bar out there? Something that lookgs like elkbuff bars should be fine ;-) |
| 14:28.28 | cladhaire | Lin: There are two.. Omen and KTM |
| 14:28.31 | Lopeppeppy | Two threat meters that I know. KLH and Omen. Neither are just "bars", they have a window much like any damage meter. |
| 14:28.34 | cladhaire | download one of them, since they're your only choicess. |
| 14:28.56 | |Jelly| | What does the threat stuff in Pitbull look like? |
| 14:29.09 | |Jelly| | or is it just the glow red for aggro? |
| 14:29.51 | Lin | cladhaire: thanks I will check |
| 14:30.33 | |Jelly| | Wait. What? |
| 14:32.52 | |Jelly| | I always laugh so hard. |
| 14:33.40 | Lopeppeppy | Don't snarf, |Jelly| |
| 14:37.32 | |Jelly| | http://i15.tinypic.com/4pkkbxc.jpg <3 |
| 14:38.24 | Lopeppeppy | and it was a killing blow, too! |
| 14:39.26 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 14:40.03 | Lopeppeppy | What instance are y'all in? |
| 14:40.15 | |Jelly| | RFD |
| 14:40.24 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent fun. |
| 14:40.25 | |Jelly| | I want my dagger so I have something to ambush with. lol |
| 14:41.34 | TS|Skrom | The threat stuff in pitbull is a bar on their frame showing their current threat. Basically it's the same bar as what's listed in omen, just taken out and affixed to their frame. |
| 14:41.44 | TS|Skrom | sorry I'm late to the party |
| 14:41.47 | TS|Skrom | ./wave |
| 14:42.18 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, TS|Skrom. You're welcome to attend, if I can come back un-in-vis-ible! |
| 14:43.13 | TS|Skrom | excellent |
| 14:45.45 | Lopeppeppy | Did you see my warm fuzzy screenshot? |
| 14:47.27 | |Jelly| | IMO poison should proc off blade fury |
| 14:47.48 | foxlit | That sounds like a rogue buff |
| 14:47.54 | foxlit | Let me retaliate with a random rogue nerf |
| 14:47.55 | |Jelly| | Shhhhh |
| 14:48.04 | foxlit | CloS and Evasion should share a 5-minute cooldown. |
| 14:50.25 | |Jelly| | <3 when both the warriors die and I get to tank the boss. |
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| 14:52.20 | Lopeppeppy | Evasion tanking is a hoot. |
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| 14:58.05 | |Jelly| | For Peppy boss KB! |
| 14:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah!!!! |
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| 15:02.40 | |Jelly| | Hi Cog |
| 15:05.48 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Cogwheel. I would wish you a happy Monday, but it was shot and killed earlier in the morning. Apologies. |
| 15:06.14 | cog|work | Monday was shot and killed? |
| 15:06.20 | |Jelly| | Yeah. |
| 15:06.30 | cog|work | I was wondering why no one was here at work... |
| 15:07.09 | cog|work | guess i'll go home then |
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| 15:07.16 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 15:07.48 | |Jelly| | Welcome back, COG|NOTWORK |
| 15:08.02 | Lopeppeppy | I'm off work today, why not everyone!? |
| 15:08.30 | cog|notwork | 'cause today's pay day for me :P |
| 15:08.48 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh... that could be bad. See if HR left a goodie basket somewhere! |
| 15:09.32 | |Jelly| | [Y] <Judela>: FOR PEPPY!!! |
| 15:09.34 | |Jelly| | [P] <Hard>: who is peppy? |
| 15:10.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, they asked! |
| 15:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | It only took them what.... a whole instance run? :P |
| 15:12.18 | |Jelly| | Pretty much. |
| 15:13.03 | |Jelly| | People on my server are a little slow |
| 15:17.17 | |Jelly| | inserts, you mean? |
| 15:18.04 | TS|Skrom | -.- |
| 15:18.16 | TS|Skrom | I'm sleepy, leave me alone :P |
| 15:19.42 | |Jelly| | :P |
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| 15:28.53 | TS|Skrom | well I think I've taken a long enough break from WoW it's time to get back to it. |
| 15:29.00 | |Jelly| | I agree. |
| 15:29.19 | TS|Skrom | as in, about a 3 week break |
| 15:29.32 | |Jelly| | far too long IMO |
| 15:29.34 | Kaydeethree | meh. I've not been playing for nearly 2 months now |
| 15:29.45 | AnduinLothar | i take a break every day |
| 15:29.49 | AnduinLothar | i sleep a little |
| 15:29.52 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 15:29.52 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 15:29.59 | Valaron|Work | I've been playing Paper Mario on the Virtual Console. |
| 15:30.19 | TS|Skrom | I tend to get distracted/A.D.D.'ish from time to time |
| 15:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | You're a programmer... get used to it ;) |
| 15:30.38 | TS|Skrom | I avoided other MMO's this time so as not to get sucked in, since I've got a buddy frantically trying to level up to play with my mains |
| 15:31.43 | Valaron|Work | Hmm.. I've been forgetting to buy my level 70 spells. |
| 15:33.08 | |Jelly| | Morning sunshine. |
| 15:33.13 | Shirik | o.o |
| 15:34.21 | Shirik | "You shouldn't need to download this, but if a mod doesn't have Ac2 included then this is what you'll need to get it to work" |
| 15:34.27 | Shirik | That's very wrong... who wrote that! |
| 15:34.31 | |Jelly| | I didn't! |
| 15:35.04 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 15:35.07 | Lopeppeppy | Sunshine should not be a talent available for the Monday class. It's waaaaay OP. |
| 15:35.16 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 15:35.23 | JoshBorke | classes start for you today too Lopeppeppy? |
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| 15:36.26 | Lopeppeppy | Monday class as in, talent points... nevermind, obviously a weak joke. |
| 15:36.46 | JoshBorke | wow, i'm just gonna, um |
| 15:36.51 | JoshBorke | finish my lunch and log |
| 15:37.00 | |Jelly| | Just think happy thoughts. |
| 15:37.35 | Lopeppeppy | Being funny is obviously not allowed on Mondays, and I do it poorly to begin with. No worries that you didn't understand my complex weirdness, Josh. |
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| 15:40.28 | |Jelly| | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1133985931&sid=1 |
| 15:40.45 | |Jelly| | Translation: I opened Cog's guide so I could say I did but I didn't read ANYTHING in it. |
| 15:41.00 | Kaydeethree | ah, I like yelling at those people |
| 15:41.24 | Lopeppeppy | Not reading stickies makes kittens cry. |
| 15:42.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's.... a large amount of kittens required |
| 15:42.42 | Valaron|Work | mew |
| 15:44.09 | Lopeppeppy | My cat meows a lot, she covers a lot of ground by herself. |
| 15:45.05 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:46.10 | Lopeppeppy | She's nuts, |Jelly|, you have no idea. I always know when she's getting into something new and exciting, because that's when she uses her inquisitive meow. And then there's the one that triumphantly declares that she managed to unravel the whole roll of toilet paper. |
| 15:46.56 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 15:47.33 | MoonWolf | gotta love them cats |
| 15:48.06 | Lopeppeppy | Or you'd make a bit of Kung Pao happen. |
| 15:49.55 | |Jelly| | I'm not a fan of cats as it is. : / |
| 15:50.09 | Lopeppeppy | Kung Pao sauce is really good though! |
| 15:51.49 | Mortify | ok |
| 15:51.55 | Mortify | I've been idle here long enough |
| 15:52.04 | Mortify | =X |
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| 16:03.16 | Saint-N | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 16:03.50 | Lopeppeppy | O. |
| 16:04.33 | |Jelly| | P. |
| 16:04.35 | Saint-N | @ werk |
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| 16:09.12 | |Jelly| | Seriously. Trivia mods. WTF. Go read a book or something. |
| 16:10.50 | Saint-N | hrm neat |
| 16:11.05 | Lopeppeppy | I absolutely hate them. I report anyone using them in General or chat just on principle. |
| 16:11.06 | Saint-N | its not to see lots of linux distros moving to compfuze |
| 16:11.13 | Cide | why? |
| 16:11.22 | Saint-N | err not == nice |
| 16:11.37 | Cide | I mean, using them in general chat or such is wrong |
| 16:11.42 | |Jelly| | I think they're retarded, personally. |
| 16:11.44 | Cide | but I don't really see a problem with them otherwise |
| 16:11.45 | Saint-N | its annoying and spammy |
| 16:11.47 | Cide | why? |
| 16:11.54 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.02 | Saint-N | ive never ignored someone |
| 16:12.05 | |Jelly| | http://www.amazon.com/s/102-0401885-7688123?ie=UTF8&tag=mozilla-20&index=blended&link%5Fcode=qs&field-keywords=bathroom%20reader&sourceid=Mozilla-search |
| 16:12.09 | Cide | I don't use them, don't misunderstand me |
| 16:12.10 | |Jelly| | Cause there's no need for them... |
| 16:12.10 | Lopeppeppy | If someone wants to do it in the privacy of their own party, great. I can leave. But in General chat or /say or /yell... nope. Rude. |
| 16:12.12 | Saint-N | i personally like trivia |
| 16:12.20 | Cide | |Jelly|: to you, maybe |
| 16:12.37 | Cide | other people like them, is that really a problem? |
| 16:12.42 | |Jelly| | I've never, EVER seen one that made me say "Wow...I didn't know that, perhaps one day that will be useful information." |
| 16:12.51 | Cide | it's.. you know.. fun? |
| 16:12.54 | |Jelly| | It is when I have to see it across my screen every damned second. |
| 16:13.02 | Lopeppeppy | If they do it where the rest of the world doesn't have to read it, cybering is their own business.... same with trivia bots. |
| 16:13.12 | Cide | well yeah |
| 16:13.12 | AnduinLothar | disable say while ur there |
| 16:13.17 | |Jelly| | That's hot, Peppy. |
| 16:13.25 | Cide | but you should have a problem with the PEOPLE who do that - not the addon itself |
| 16:13.25 | Shirik | in semi-related news |
| 16:13.30 | Shirik | We've been looking for a tank for an hour |
| 16:13.31 | Lopeppeppy | Keep it where others aren't forced to ignore it. I do not disable my chat channels for one spammer -- I report them. |
| 16:13.34 | Shirik | we just got one, and he's on my /ignore list |
| 16:13.37 | Cide | it's up to the user to pick an adequate medium |
| 16:13.40 | Shirik | and boy do I know him well |
| 16:13.43 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww.... Shirik. *comfort* |
| 16:13.44 | Saint-N | .me /m's peppy trivia cyber |
| 16:13.47 | |Jelly| | Why should I (or anyone) have to disable say (and probably forget to re enable it) cause they want to break the spam rules? |
| 16:13.58 | Cide | trivia bots aren't spam |
| 16:14.01 | AnduinLothar | they aren't breakign the spam rules |
| 16:14.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I disable them because I've only ever found retards there. |
| 16:14.09 | AnduinLothar | the spam rules are hard coded |
| 16:14.13 | Saint-N | being spam and being spammy arent the same thing ;P |
| 16:14.14 | |Jelly| | Everyone I've seen fills my screen. : / |
| 16:14.22 | AnduinLothar | they're only breaking your personal pet pieve |
| 16:14.27 | AnduinLothar | which you should get over |
| 16:14.29 | Lopeppeppy | Spam is in the eye of the beholder. *shrug* I say it's spam to hear about Chuck Norris in /say on an RP server. |
| 16:14.32 | Saint-N | of course the constant flood of answers...... |
| 16:14.48 | Cide | so tell people to leave, or do it yourself, or /ignore - plenty of options |
| 16:14.53 | Lopeppeppy | That one is not a pet peeve, it's a rule of the RP server, so I get a weeee mote of protection from it. |
| 16:14.54 | Saint-N | just make a dates and times database for the bot ;P |
| 16:14.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That said, if the generic channels didn't override my custom channel /numbers, I might have them enabled. |
| 16:15.03 | |Jelly| | Whatever. |
| 16:15.04 | Saint-N | number question trivia spam is awesome! |
| 16:15.08 | Lopeppeppy | Reporting for spam auto-ignores as well, it's great stuff. |
| 16:15.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I just can't justify /1 for a channel which is essentially read-only for me |
| 16:15.16 | Cide | the people are obviously stupid since they're doing it in public, which should be reportable |
| 16:15.39 | Cide | but you can't really blame the addon for users' stupidity |
| 16:15.48 | Saint-N | the arguement can be made however that it's noworse than barrens except that trivia "might" have some useful information |
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| 16:16.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Q: Where is Mankirk's wife? |
| 16:16.13 | ScytheBlade1 | A: |
| 16:16.14 | ScytheBlade1 | A: |
| 16:16.15 | ScytheBlade1 | A: |
| 16:16.16 | ScytheBlade1 | etc |
| 16:16.37 | Cide | mankrik's*, thank you very much |
| 16:16.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I never played horde. :) |
| 16:16.51 | ScytheBlade1 | My highest level horde toon is currently... 7? |
| 16:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I think |
| 16:17.03 | Cide | common knowledge! |
| 16:17.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Got me there |
| 16:17.25 | Saint-N | it was even a mob in Hellfire during beta |
| 16:17.44 | Saint-N | since that was the common "joke" question |
| 16:18.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll always remember the Fel Bear. |
| 16:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | *screen shakes* IT'S A BEAR RUN |
| 16:18.25 | cladhaire | heheh <3 the fel bear |
| 16:18.26 | Saint-N | the Hellfire Happy Time Welcome Bear |
| 16:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, bugs. |
| 16:18.39 | Saint-N | that was the best model change |
| 16:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to agree |
| 16:19.05 | Saint-N | would have been funny to make it a gnome named McHammer <Don't Touch This> |
| 16:19.22 | Saint-N | THAT would have been even funnier |
| 16:19.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ... there goes my last character slot |
| 16:19.33 | Saint-N | the amount of corpses it would have gotten would have leveled it easy! |
| 16:20.00 | Saint-N | the gnome named Chompskey was my fave gnome though |
| 16:21.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, gnome... warrior! |
| 16:21.22 | ScytheBlade1 | NO THAT NAME IS UNAVAILABLE |
| 16:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I should have expected that |
| 16:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, I should petition a GM on the basis of having a name against the TOS |
| 16:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ;p |
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| 16:22.44 | cog|work | and then take it for yourself? |
| 16:22.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 16:23.27 | Saint-N | hah |
| 16:31.02 | Valaron|Work | Anyone using Solaris? |
| 16:34.36 | Valaron|Work | Never mind. I figured it out. |
| 16:34.36 | Saint-N | man i love tomato |
| 16:34.40 | Saint-N | it's so awesome |
| 16:35.50 | Punkie` | bleh |
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| 16:37.01 | Punkie` | The sauce is nice because it's filled with delicious crap other than tomato |
| 16:37.02 | Saint-N | don't like tomato ms brewster? |
| 16:37.16 | Punkie` | but tomatoes on their own are bleh |
| 16:37.40 | Saint-N | oh i meant tomato the custom firmware for linksys ws54g routers |
| 16:37.57 | Punkie` | you so could have said that |
| 16:38.01 | Saint-N | and wrt54g |
| 16:38.17 | Saint-N | i fergot i was in a room full of fatties ;P |
| 16:38.28 | Saint-N | i assumed nerds would know these sorta things over food ;) |
| 16:38.39 | Punkie` | I'm not fat :( |
| 16:38.50 | Saint-N | you immediately went food or tech |
| 16:39.31 | Saint-N | speaking of which |
| 16:39.37 | Punkie` | yeah duh, its like saying man I love potato |
| 16:39.38 | Saint-N | off to home depot to get tubs! |
| 16:39.51 | Saint-N | potato guns or mr.potato? |
| 16:39.53 | Punkie` | which is ALSO the code name for the 2.2 release of the Debian GNU/Linux distribution. |
| 16:40.14 | Valaron|Work | 2.2? |
| 16:40.19 | Punkie` | yeah, see! didnt think of tech eh |
| 16:40.27 | Saint-N | nope i picked toys over tech ;P |
| 16:41.23 | Saint-N | is/was |
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| 16:51.56 | Shirik | so |
| 16:52.03 | |Jelly| | so |
| 16:52.16 | Shirik | if someone puts vampiric embrace on me while MCed in that second boss on SL |
| 16:52.33 | Shirik | do I gain mana from doing shadow damage to myself (SW:D for example) when the MC is released? |
| 16:53.09 | Rallion | that is such a weird question |
| 16:53.16 | Shirik | I dunno why it came to me :P |
| 16:53.33 | Rallion | but |
| 16:53.38 | Rallion | VE restores health, not mana |
| 16:53.44 | Rallion | Touch restores mana |
| 16:53.47 | Shirik | whatever |
| 16:53.50 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... hilarious |
| 16:53.54 | Kaydeethree | windows update takes down skype |
| 16:54.02 | |Jelly| | ? |
| 16:54.03 | Shirik | ? |
| 16:54.07 | Kaydeethree | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070820-giant-synchronized-reboot-windows-update-smokes-skype.html |
| 16:54.27 | Shirik | rofl |
| 16:55.03 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 16:56.54 | AnduinLothar | anyone know if the latest gatherer supports square minimaps? |
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| 16:59.39 | Rallion | I keep checking Steam in hopes that Bioshock will accidentally get 'released' early. |
| 16:59.46 | foxlit | "this event revealed a previously unseen software bug within the network resource allocation algorithm which prevented the self-healing function from working quickly" |
| 16:59.47 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 17:00.05 | foxlit | "our code erred" |
| 17:00.13 | Rallion | lol that reads like such BS |
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| 17:04.40 | Kaso | foxlit, whats that in relation to? |
| 17:09.33 | foxlit | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070820-giant-synchronized-reboot-windows-update-smokes-skype.html |
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| 17:20.34 | Valaron|Work | Oh! I'm starving :( And it's 1:30 hours till lunch. |
| 17:20.48 | |Jelly| | vending machine? |
| 17:20.56 | Valaron|Work | Nothing close by. |
| 17:21.00 | |Jelly| | doh |
| 17:21.19 | deltron | foxlit: yikes |
| 17:23.01 | Rallion | ooh I should totally eat. that's such a good idea. |
| 17:24.24 | Rallion | I saw a commercial for Bioshock last night. I started giggling. I was with my girlfriend and her family. Now they think I'm crazy. |
| 17:25.07 | Saint-N | they didnt before? |
| 17:25.50 | Rallion | I hide it well. |
| 17:26.01 | Rallion | Well, from the family at least. |
| 17:28.24 | Lin | the server time is based in which timezone? |
| 17:28.33 | Lin | wow server time. |
| 17:28.44 | Rallion | interesting...Vista is giving me the option to "safely" remove my system hard disk. |
| 17:28.51 | Rallion | it's tempting. |
| 17:29.35 | |Jelly| | depends on where the server is, doesn't it? :P |
| 17:29.44 | Rallion | yep. |
| 17:31.08 | |Jelly| | Does /time return your time or server time? |
| 17:31.17 | haste | Rallion: do it! |
| 17:32.39 | Rallion | Jelly, i think server time |
| 17:32.51 | Rallion | yes, server time. |
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| 17:33.05 | |Jelly| | can't test it cause I live in my server's time zone. lol |
| 17:33.58 | Rallion | me too, but my time is a minute off the server time :P |
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| 17:55.54 | TS|Skrom | It's not Mankirk? |
| 17:56.04 | TS|Skrom | I never knew that (hi I'm an hour late) |
| 17:56.23 | TS|Skrom | wow actually almost 2 hours |
| 17:57.04 | zenzelezz | nope, Mankrik or whatever |
| 17:58.19 | TS|Skrom | such a profound revelation such as that makes me want to do something drastic. I think I'll go make an orc named Mankirk and make a guild <Not Mankrik> |
| 17:58.39 | zenzelezz | makes me think of the Grom'tor quest rewards |
| 17:58.55 | zenzelezz | Grom'tor's Friend's Cousin's Tunic |
| 17:59.01 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 17:59.27 | zenzelezz | with the flavor text (or whatever WoW calls it) "It's not mine... -- Grom'tor" |
| 18:03.02 | Shirik | I call it flabor text :) |
| 18:03.07 | Shirik | s/b/v/ |
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| 18:06.45 | Kaydeethree | oh, wow... discord's finally dead |
| 18:06.53 | zenzelezz | officially? |
| 18:07.00 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1134195997&sid=1 |
| 18:07.15 | Shirik | it's been dead for a long time |
| 18:07.18 | Shirik | just officially dead :P |
| 18:09.15 | TS|Skrom | ooo I just remembered. I hit 32 on my druid before I quit for those couple weeks. Can't wait to get home and take Ravage and Ferocious Bite out for a spin |
| 18:09.35 | Saint-N | someone should take over it |
| 18:09.45 | Saint-N | it was a great "pretty up yer ui" project |
| 18:10.56 | Saint-N | i lurv my guildname |
| 18:11.00 | Saint-N | it names me happy |
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| 18:11.26 | Saint-N | !c echo isles rozalyn |
| 18:11.32 | Saint-N | aww |
| 18:12.02 | foxlit | !char echo isles rozalyn |
| 18:12.07 | foxlit | You're missing domain |
| 18:12.11 | foxlit | eu/us |
| 18:12.18 | foxlit | !char eu echo isles rozalyn |
| 18:12.19 | ThraeBot | foxlit: rozalyn is not the character you are looking for! |
| 18:12.20 | Saint-N | yyeah |
| 18:12.23 | foxlit | !char us echo isles rozalyn |
| 18:12.26 | TS|Skrom | http://www.xckd.com/ haha |
| 18:12.27 | ThraeBot | foxlit: Rozalyn, Level 70 Undead Priest (9/0/52). 7861 HP; 8880 Mana; 161 mana regen; 5 mp5; 97 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 601 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (780); 241 shadow dmg (842); 5.62% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 745 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27gvzg ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39t2on ]] |
| 18:12.56 | Saint-N | 'its nice that my name doesnt exist in eu |
| 18:13.07 | Saint-N | !c us echo isles rozalin |
| 18:13.10 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Rozalin, Level 6 Draenei Warrior: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick![[ TBR: ? ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xrp7p ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pjosk ]] |
| 18:13.11 | Saint-N | however |
| 18:13.15 | TS|Skrom | !char us echo uldum treston |
| 18:13.15 | ThraeBot | TS|Skrom: treston is not the character you are looking for! |
| 18:13.22 | TS|Skrom | eh? |
| 18:13.23 | foxlit | Hah |
| 18:13.28 | foxlit | My error messages are still there |
| 18:13.33 | Saint-N | !c us echo isles rozilyn |
| 18:13.33 | foxlit | echo uldum |
| 18:13.33 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: rozilyn is not the character you are looking for! |
| 18:13.54 | Saint-N | !c us zuljin rozalin |
| 18:13.55 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: rozalin is not the character you are looking for! |
| 18:14.01 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.rad(180) |
| 18:14.02 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 3.1415926535898 |
| 18:14.06 | Saint-N | wierd |
| 18:14.07 | TS|Skrom | !c us uldum |
| 18:14.10 | Saint-N | guess she transfered |
| 18:14.14 | TS|Skrom | oops |
| 18:14.19 | TS|Skrom | !c us uldum rho |
| 18:14.21 | Saint-N | there used to be an alliance human mage named rozalin |
| 18:14.22 | ThraeBot | TS|Skrom: Rho, Level 62 Human Warlock (36/17/0). 5925 HP; 6248 Mana; 130 mana regen; 11 mp5; 58 spell crit; 413 +spell dmg; 4.46% dodge;[[ TBR: 604 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xgr54 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p8qpw ]] |
| 18:14.24 | Saint-N | on my server |
| 18:14.32 | Saint-N | kept running into her all the time in nag |
| 18:14.32 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(math.rad(180)) |
| 18:14.33 | Cide | AnduinLothar: -1 |
| 18:14.36 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(math.rad(0)) |
| 18:14.37 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 1 |
| 18:14.49 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(math.rad(90)) |
| 18:14.50 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 6.1232339957368e-017 |
| 18:15.16 | Saint-N | The Lethargic Council is the goodest guildname for someone that barely plays and is REALLY lazy |
| 18:15.28 | Saint-N | so lazy that i havent recruited a single person into my guild ;P |
| 18:15.47 | Rallion | my guild only has three people in it |
| 18:16.06 | Saint-N | you're more ambitious than i |
| 18:16.25 | Rallion | but I know them IRL |
| 18:16.40 | Saint-N | more ambitious ;P |
| 18:16.56 | Saint-N | i have no in game friends and no irl friends |
| 18:17.01 | Saint-N | they're just too much work |
| 18:17.10 | TS|Skrom | !c us uldum treston |
| 18:17.13 | ThraeBot | TS|Skrom: Treston, Level 63 Human Paladin (44/10/0). 4384 HP; 6419 Mana; 146 mana regen; 30 mp5; 4771 Armour; 72.9 Melee DPS; 3.86% melee crit; 4 spell crit; 128 +spell dmg; 596 +heal; 3.7% dodge; 4.84% block;[[ TBR: 522 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2gfd44 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32uafq ]] |
| 18:17.18 | TS|Skrom | there I am! |
| 18:17.23 | Saint-N | i only hang out on irc because it makes my add happy |
| 18:17.26 | foxlit | Too much meaningless numbers :) |
| 18:18.11 | Saint-N | heh |
| 18:18.19 | Saint-N | i was reading this months Science mag |
| 18:18.43 | Saint-N | appearantly people have cracked hd and bluray keys already |
| 18:19.03 | Saint-N | AND the second key that got sent out for hd was cracked within hours |
| 18:19.38 | foxlit | You'll have to be a bit more specific than "bluray keys" |
| 18:19.46 | foxlit | What exactly are we talking about? |
| 18:19.47 | Saint-N | www.laserglow.com |
| 18:19.53 | Saint-N | tell me you dont want one of those |
| 18:21.37 | Kaydeethree | the encryption keys for the next version of CSS for blueray/hd-dvd. it was all over digg not too far back |
| 18:21.38 | foxlit | donotlookintothelaserwithremainingeye |
| 18:21.44 | Saint-N | yup |
| 18:21.55 | Saint-N | and because digg pulled it all it sparked another deCSS |
| 18:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ "sparked" |
| 18:22.05 | Saint-N | hahaha fox |
| 18:22.15 | foxlit | Point is, last I heard, nobody cracked the Blu-ray specific protection yet |
| 18:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I wasn't aware that the Blu-ray specific stuff was released. |
| 18:22.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And that any players were capable of playing them, at that |
| 18:22.57 | Saint-N | oh my bad |
| 18:23.00 | Saint-N | only hd |
| 18:24.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I think it matters |
| 18:24.26 | ScytheBlade1 | If the differing formats have different content, that will only agitate the masses |
| 18:24.37 | ScytheBlade1 | "I have to buy TWO copies and TWO players to watch all of ONE movie?" |
| 18:25.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise, anything on HD is going to be on Blu-ray. And, well, HD is HD. |
| 18:25.10 | foxlit | HD-DVD will die, hopefully |
| 18:25.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 18:25.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Let's um |
| 18:25.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Not get into such a debate :) |
| 18:25.42 | Saint-N | heh thats a good idea ;P |
| 18:26.20 | Saint-N | all i really care about is which will have the cheaper burner and store the most ;P |
| 18:26.27 | TS|Skrom | I'm still banking on my 8track futures |
| 18:26.31 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 18:26.39 | Saint-N | TS|Skrom: you too!? |
| 18:26.41 | foxlit | Bluray wins the last one |
| 18:26.49 | foxlit | Not sure about burner prices |
| 18:26.53 | Saint-N | foxlit: by like 4gb right? |
| 18:27.00 | Saint-N | wasnt it 25 for hd and 29 for br? |
| 18:27.04 | Rallion | blu-ray's likely to be significantly more expensive |
| 18:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | All I personally want is a stupidly large amount of storage capacity. |
| 18:27.30 | ScytheBlade1 | As it stands, I've rotating multiple USB hard drives for backups at work |
| 18:27.34 | Saint-N | oh and which has the fastest burners |
| 18:27.37 | foxlit | By 20 GB |
| 18:27.52 | foxlit | or 10 GB for single-layer discs |
| 18:27.57 | Saint-N | i dont relish the idea of 1 hour burns ;P |
| 18:28.16 | foxlit | Not like you're losing anything :) |
| 18:28.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't really care. I just want 100GB+ on a disc |
| 18:28.21 | TS|Skrom | mmmmm relish |
| 18:28.28 | Saint-N | not when i can do 8x4g in the same amount of time ;P |
| 18:28.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Apply some crypto, burn it, archive it |
| 18:28.52 | Saint-N | ScytheBlade1: then cry when the cat knocks it over and scratches it to shit ;P |
| 18:29.11 | Kaydeethree | meh. I'm not trusting anything important to optical media. Not with the rate my test-backup DVDs keep wearing out. |
| 18:29.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Saint-N, there are no animals anywhere near where I would be storing those :) |
| 18:29.19 | TS|Skrom | what are you people storing so much of O.o |
| 18:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Work data |
| 18:29.34 | foxlit | "As of March 2007, BD-R/RE drives up to 4x retail for about $600 and 2x single-layer BD-R discs, with a capacity of 25 GB, can be found for around $12" |
| 18:29.35 | Saint-N | porn |
| 18:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got ~80GB in well over a million files |
| 18:29.48 | Thunder_Child | solid state HD's > Plastic Disks |
| 18:29.50 | Kaydeethree | size/used/free: 709G 630G 79G 89% /home |
| 18:29.54 | TS|Skrom | what kind of work are you in ScytheBlade1? |
| 18:29.56 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(math.rad(45)) |
| 18:29.56 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 0.70710678118655 |
| 18:30.04 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(45) |
| 18:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | TS|Skrom, sysadmin for a law firm. Lots of PDFs. |
| 18:30.04 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 0.52532198881773 |
| 18:30.09 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(0) |
| 18:30.09 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 1 |
| 18:30.10 | Saint-N | 500gb drives are like 79$ |
| 18:30.16 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(180) |
| 18:30.16 | Cide | AnduinLothar: -0.59846006905786 |
| 18:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Laws require that data be stored in a /nonalterable/ format for 7 years |
| 18:30.28 | TS|Skrom | makes sense |
| 18:30.28 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(125) |
| 18:30.29 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 0.78771451214423 |
| 18:30.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Hard Drives don't qualify. |
| 18:30.35 | foxlit | But they're, er, hard drives |
| 18:30.39 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(math.rad(135)) |
| 18:30.39 | Cide | AnduinLothar: -0.70710678118655 |
| 18:30.58 | foxlit | Is there some explanation behind AL's sudden interest in trigonometry? |
| 18:31.00 | Thunder_Child | ROM HD's |
| 18:31.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And how much are those? ;P |
| 18:31.13 | AnduinLothar | stupid minimap buttons |
| 18:31.20 | Thunder_Child | i dont think they exist |
| 18:31.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I was about to say.. |
| 18:31.29 | Saint-N | its factoring the rpoximity to a girl he can get without getting cooties |
| 18:31.30 | TS|Skrom | sure they do, most addons have em |
| 18:31.38 | Rallion | I'll probably skip this generation of media altogether. |
| 18:31.55 | Thunder_Child | but a solid state ROM HD would work better than a disk |
| 18:31.58 | TS|Skrom | Saint-N I didn't think there was a safe minimum distance any more |
| 18:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Just give me 100GB on a disc and I'll be happy. |
| 18:32.09 | TS|Skrom | what with the Hanta-Cooties outbreak |
| 18:32.24 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(math.rad(-90)) |
| 18:32.25 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 6.1232339957368e-017 |
| 18:32.33 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.cos(math.rad(-10)) |
| 18:32.33 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 0.98480775301221 |
| 18:32.37 | Saint-N | scythe until pdf's become some new format that stores live media and court proceedings and interviews ;P |
| 18:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:33.04 | Saint-N | then yer pathetic 100gb isnt gonna be enough ;P |
| 18:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Your analogy rings true with things such as word documents |
| 18:33.14 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.sin(math.rad(0)) |
| 18:33.14 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 0 |
| 18:33.21 | Kaydeethree | I just wish that the pdfs I see wouldn't be scanned images of printed documents... |
| 18:33.24 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.sin(math.rad(-10)) |
| 18:33.24 | Cide | AnduinLothar: -0.17364817766693 |
| 18:33.34 | ScytheBlade1 | "HAY LOOK AT ME I'M A WORD DOCUMENT WITH EMBEDDED VIDEO" |
| 18:33.35 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.sin(math.rad(-100)) |
| 18:33.35 | Cide | AnduinLothar: -0.98480775301221 |
| 18:33.41 | Saint-N | hahaha |
| 18:33.44 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.sin(math.rad(100)) |
| 18:33.45 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 0.98480775301221 |
| 18:33.50 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.sin(math.rad(170)) |
| 18:33.51 | Cide | AnduinLothar: 0.17364817766693 |
| 18:33.54 | AnduinLothar | >>> math.sin(math.rad(-170)) |
| 18:33.55 | Cide | AnduinLothar: -0.17364817766693 |
| 18:34.00 | AnduinLothar | k done |
| 18:34.01 | Saint-N | why is ther a link to phonetap in this docu...OH MY GOD!!! |
| 18:34.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:34.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, same form of scanning done here. Once a file closes, it's scanned and archived. Hundreds of pages per file, some massive (graphical) PDFs |
| 18:34.57 | Saint-N | at elast you've got a groovy sheet feeder 50pages a minute scanner ;P |
| 18:34.58 | Kaydeethree | lmao... scanning someone's twitter: "posted: half a minute ago from web" |
| 18:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | 50? weak. |
| 18:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | We have two multifunction devices that can scan well over 100/minutes |
| 18:35.31 | ScytheBlade1 | They're pretty overpowered, I must admit |
| 18:35.35 | Saint-N | wow nice |
| 18:35.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Save it straight to .pdf |
| 18:35.45 | Saint-N | yup |
| 18:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Not cheap machines, heh |
| 18:36.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever a client comes in to close, it's pretty much: |
| 18:36.10 | Saint-N | canon makes a nice little one that does 30 a minute to pdf for about 250ish i think |
| 18:36.16 | Saint-N | really small footprint too |
| 18:36.19 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) Print off 300 pages. 2) Client signs six of them. 3) Scan in 300 pages. 4) Done. |
| 18:36.37 | Saint-N | you fergot 5 |
| 18:36.48 | Saint-N | 5) go have drink and talk about new summer home. |
| 18:36.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just a sysadmin. |
| 18:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Not the lawyer :) |
| 18:37.13 | Saint-N | just? |
| 18:37.15 | Saint-N | JUST?! |
| 18:37.35 | Saint-N | the BOFH would have your head for that statement |
| 18:37.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, the. For three buildings. That are ~70 miles apart. |
| 18:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 18:37.44 | TS|Skrom | I'd trade a summer home to be able to keep my soul any day |
| 18:37.53 | Saint-N | infact im gonna go tell him right now |
| 18:38.01 | Saint-N | i have no soul |
| 18:38.10 | Saint-N | traded it in the late80s for blue smarties |
| 18:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm the /only/ person that the boss won't piss off. |
| 18:38.11 | Kaydeethree | hm... I need to catch up on BOFH. haven't read any of simon's work in a while |
| 18:38.11 | TS|Skrom | ah you must be a lawyer |
| 18:38.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 18:38.16 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 18:38.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sure that's worth something |
| 18:38.27 | Saint-N | speaking of chicks i'd molest without a second thought |
| 18:38.34 | Saint-N | hi cairenn |
| 18:38.35 | Kaydeethree | ahaha |
| 18:38.42 | Cairenn | hi |
| 18:38.45 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- dying of laughter IRL |
| 18:38.56 | Kaydeethree | you too? |
| 18:39.10 | Cairenn | oh really? |
| 18:39.17 | Saint-N | totally |
| 18:39.37 | Saint-N | does anyone else hear the cartoon "blink" sound in thier head when someone types blink? |
| 18:39.55 | Cairenn | you know molestation has rather negative connotations, right? |
| 18:40.08 | Saint-N | well you are rather tiny |
| 18:40.15 | cog|work | O.o |
| 18:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes. She also has +o. |
| 18:40.21 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 18:40.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Which quite frankly, means that she is whatever she says she is. |
| 18:40.47 | Saint-N | yes but im loveable |
| 18:40.54 | Saint-N | and canadian |
| 18:41.01 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 18:41.16 | Saint-N | and going to have a smork too but thats a different train of thought |
| 18:41.17 | TS|Skrom | isn't that worth like, 2 bans? |
| 18:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, I already went there. It only ended in being kickbanned. |
| 18:42.11 | Cairenn | Saint-N: well, given that I'm canadian, and a smoker .... |
| 18:42.15 | Kaydeethree | oh I'm well aware. which is why I'm having a hard time deciding what to say |
| 18:42.21 | Saint-N | haha |
| 18:42.27 | TS|Skrom | *shrug* |
| 18:44.02 | Cairenn | what I am (at least, I think) is a good sport who is hard to upset or offend and tends to know when folks are just joking around, teasing and having fun, which is all good in my books |
| 18:44.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cidan (i=feh@ip68-98-130-180.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 18:44.42 | MatthewS | and a lot of hugs? |
| 18:44.48 | Cairenn | that too :) |
| 18:44.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I still think that kickbanning people would improve the atmosphere. |
| 18:46.32 | Cairenn | I presume you guys have already seen this, yes? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1134195997&sid=1 |
| 18:46.52 | cog|work | yup |
| 18:47.07 | Thunder_Child | yep |
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| 18:47.31 | Saint-N | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWDXE9Pbjic |
| 18:49.07 | Cairenn | Saint-N: that's just sad |
| 18:49.42 | Saint-N | heh |
| 18:49.54 | Saint-N | yay patroit beer commercials! |
| 18:50.21 | Saint-N | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3vakVg&mode=related&search= |
| 18:50.22 | Saint-N | heh |
| 18:50.41 | Saint-N | and all it really succeeds in doing is make me miss home that much more ;) |
| 18:51.03 | Cairenn | now, THAT one is funny |
| 18:51.15 | Saint-N | the first one is done by the arrogant worms |
| 18:51.24 | ScytheBlade1 | bbiab, strangling a sister who just used the B&W laser printer to print off ~30 full pages of photos. |
| 18:51.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and grabbing food. |
| 18:51.31 | Saint-N | a band equally as good as 3 dead trolls |
| 18:52.26 | Saint-N | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRwiH18QwpU |
| 18:52.38 | Saint-N | best song ever |
| 18:52.53 | Saint-N | and second best is the happy birthday song ;P |
| 18:54.39 | Shirik | is ressurection a holy spell? |
| 18:55.05 | Saint-N | i think so |
| 18:55.17 | Saint-N | yeah i have to shift outa shadowform toc ast it |
| 18:55.30 | Shirik | oh bah |
| 18:55.36 | Shirik | spirit of redemption says "healing spell" |
| 18:55.38 | Shirik | fine |
| 18:57.20 | Cidan | HAH! |
| 18:57.26 | Cidan | The Bioshock demo was leaked! |
| 18:57.32 | Cidan | for PC |
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| 18:58.45 | Cidan | man I'm hungry. |
| 18:58.46 | Saint-N | hrm i still need to find a decent image of a red maple leaf and decent lettering for Proudly |
| 18:58.51 | Saint-N | for my leg tattoo |
| 18:59.50 | Cairenn | hehehe, no one saw my flag tattoo |
| 19:00.16 | Cairenn | low back |
| 19:00.16 | Cidan | Shirik, what say you we ditch my girl and just go to "dinner" now? |
| 19:00.49 | Saint-N | cairenn: there wasnt time woman! plus that might have made yer husband upset *wink wink* |
| 19:03.01 | Cairenn | unless I have to smack you around because you are using multiple nicks and I've never made the connection before this |
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| 19:07.04 | Shirik | Cide: Let's do it |
| 19:07.05 | Shirik | damn it |
| 19:07.09 | Shirik | Cidan >.> |
| 19:07.09 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:07.13 | Cidan | :D |
| 19:07.15 | Cide | sure. wait, what? |
| 19:07.35 | Shirik | I used to never use tab complete |
| 19:07.44 | Cairenn | and now we know why |
| 19:07.50 | Cidan | Shirik, have I missed anything interesting today? |
| 19:07.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 19:07.59 | Shirik | I got my first kara key frag on my priest |
| 19:08.07 | Cidan | l...ol? |
| 19:08.20 | Shirik | not that I have anyone to run kara with |
| 19:08.47 | |Jelly| | Kara's over rated. |
| 19:08.58 | Shirik | I'd go to something else, but the same thing applies |
| 19:09.17 | Shirik | I'm one of the few 70s in my guild, and hell even the server's small |
| 19:09.21 | |Jelly| | I was just being a jerk. I like Kara. lol |
| 19:09.24 | Osagasu | Kara is wonderful |
| 19:09.26 | Saint-N | went smorking |
| 19:09.29 | Shirik | I kinda got sick of it tbh |
| 19:09.31 | Saint-N | and this is my work nick ;P |
| 19:09.37 | Shirik | I'd like to do something different |
| 19:09.39 | Saint-N | home nick is art3mis ;P |
| 19:09.44 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:09.56 | |Jelly| | Do Mag. |
| 19:09.58 | AnduinLothar | kara's cool now that it's been nerfed a couple times |
| 19:10.00 | |Jelly| | It's fun on a priest. |
| 19:10.11 | Osagasu | God... Mag is hell |
| 19:10.12 | Shirik | I've never done mag at all actually |
| 19:10.22 | AnduinLothar | they need that next 10man soon |
| 19:10.26 | Shirik | and on my priest, the group I would run that with |
| 19:10.27 | Saint-N | it all makes sense now doesn't it ;P |
| 19:10.29 | AnduinLothar | they should have shipped with 2 |
| 19:10.29 | Shirik | is nowher enear ready for it |
| 19:10.46 | Shirik | so for now I shall pvp with a raid spec |
| 19:10.49 | Cairenn | so, how do you know whether my hubby would be upset or not, hmmm? |
| 19:10.52 | Shirik | which is going better than I anticipated lol |
| 19:11.07 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:11.15 | |Jelly| | I bg raid spec but I can't arena for shit. |
| 19:11.39 | Saint-N | well i suppose i don't, which means the visit could have been a lot more fun if i'm in the wrong ;) |
| 19:11.42 | Kaydeethree | mag's meh... we've got a pug on Medivh killing him now. |
| 19:11.50 | Kaydeethree | said pug's working on void reaver tonight or tomorrow |
| 19:11.56 | Cairenn | don't ask don't tell |
| 19:12.02 | AnduinLothar | doesn't sound liek a pug |
| 19:12.12 | |Jelly| | Just said it was a fun fight. Wasn't trying to name drop. :P |
| 19:12.30 | Saint-N | cairenn: don't ask, never know ;) |
| 19:12.34 | Cairenn | heheh |
| 19:13.10 | Kaydeethree | there's a core of 8-10 or so, most of the rest are friends of that core or ex-top-end-guild raiders that have burned out or actual puggers that they've picked up along the way running kara/gruul |
| 19:13.39 | Saint-N | hrm i should order a new courier bag and some more memory for my laptop |
| 19:13.48 | Saint-N | and a new printer |
| 19:14.03 | Osagasu | If you really think about it, it isn't so much a PuG anymore when the players all know each other and trust each other well enough to do Mag. Mag is all about teamwork. |
| 19:14.25 | Kaydeethree | "click the freaking box now!" ? |
| 19:14.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The "now" is what messes with people. |
| 19:14.44 | Shirik | hey Cidan |
| 19:14.48 | Shirik | is it /in/ Tysons 2? |
| 19:15.07 | Osagasu | If EVERYONE clicks the box, what happens next time when noone can? =P |
| 19:15.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ... a haha |
| 19:15.44 | |Jelly| | "That was a practice attempt" |
| 19:16.03 | Osagasu | "MINUS FIFTY DEE KAY PEE!" |
| 19:16.18 | Saint-N | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2273393&Sku=TSD-500AS2&SRCCODE=WEBBP231 |
| 19:16.22 | Saint-N | mmm cheap storage |
| 19:16.25 | Cidan | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesnovak/1039956902/ |
| 19:16.27 | Cidan | win. |
| 19:16.41 | Shirik | Cidan! |
| 19:16.50 | Shirik | configure your IRC client to ping on "Cidan" |
| 19:16.51 | Cidan | oh |
| 19:16.51 | Cidan | right |
| 19:16.54 | Cidan | yeah I hsould |
| 19:16.55 | Shirik | =P |
| 19:16.56 | Cidan | should, even |
| 19:17.00 | Cidan | anyways |
| 19:17.14 | Cidan | Yes, yes it is. It's right next door to Cheescake Factory |
| 19:17.20 | Kaydeethree | yum |
| 19:17.35 | Kaydeethree | wtb a cheesecake factory within a few hundred miles of me |
| 19:17.36 | Cidan | here, let me get you a map |
| 19:17.44 | Saint-N | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3212550&CatId=2459 |
| 19:17.48 | Saint-N | 1tb |
| 19:18.12 | Kaydeethree | meh. it's not worth it, go for the WD 750 for half the price |
| 19:19.05 | Cidan | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&q=Cheesecake+factory&near=falls+church&ie=UTF8&cd=1&ll=38.924728,-77.221699&spn=0.022403,0.040169&z=15&iwloc=F&om=1 |
| 19:19.07 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 19:19.14 | Cidan | it's literally right there, next to it |
| 19:19.15 | Saint-N | its still ncie to see that 1tb drives are out |
| 19:19.32 | Saint-N | i honestly cant think of when i'd NEED 1tb |
| 19:19.35 | Saint-N | but still |
| 19:19.49 | Shirik | ok |
| 19:19.59 | Kaydeethree | meh, I'm getting close to building myself a 5-disk raid-5 array using the 750s |
| 19:20.19 | Kaydeethree | s/5-disk/4-disk/ |
| 19:20.32 | Shirik | I have 7 hard drives |
| 19:20.37 | Shirik | cause I never get rid of the old ones |
| 19:20.40 | Shirik | one of them's 800MB iirc |
| 19:20.46 | Kaydeethree | gack |
| 19:21.03 | Shirik | I have a huge case :D |
| 19:21.18 | Kaydeethree | smallest HDD I've currently got is 120, then a 160 and 2 240s or 280s. |
| 19:21.24 | Cidan | your case is likely bigger than mine |
| 19:21.38 | Cidan | I have just a normal tower, well, 2 of them. |
| 19:21.58 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:22.05 | |Jelly| | I have a 74 and a 100 |
| 19:22.37 | Thunder_Child | i have 3 500's 1 250's and a 70 |
| 19:22.53 | Shirik | I really use two 500GBs in raid 0 |
| 19:22.56 | |Jelly| | Know what else you have, TC? |
| 19:22.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I've just got two 500BGs. |
| 19:23.01 | Shirik | the others I on't really use |
| 19:23.02 | ScytheBlade1 | One for /, one for /home. |
| 19:23.09 | |Jelly| | ~whalestab Thunder_Child |
| 19:23.10 | purl | ACTION stabs Thunder_Child with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 19:23.14 | |Jelly| | A WHALESTAB! |
| 19:23.15 | Thunder_Child | no...and i'm not..... |
| 19:23.18 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1, good way of doing it |
| 19:23.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Cidan, it really is, heh. |
| 19:23.42 | Shirik | I think I have a 100GB one that's solely acting as my linux swap |
| 19:23.42 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:23.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ........... |
| 19:23.49 | Cidan | that's a waste |
| 19:23.49 | Thunder_Child | a mere flesh wound |
| 19:23.49 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:24.09 | Shirik | I need to go back and look at exactly what I have |
| 19:24.13 | Kaydeethree | http://wowi.pastey.net/72503 |
| 19:24.13 | Shirik | but I think that's right |
| 19:24.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 100GB of swap? |
| 19:24.18 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf? |
| 19:24.19 | Kaydeethree | ^ my df output |
| 19:24.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Were you just bored? |
| 19:24.47 | Shirik | I never said it was 100GB of swap, I don't even think that's possible |
| 19:24.51 | Cidan | it is |
| 19:24.53 | Shirik | but that's the hard drive's sole purpose |
| 19:24.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/72504 <-- my `df` output |
| 19:24.58 | Shirik | then maybe it is 100GB of swap ^^ |
| 19:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure the last line is epic |
| 19:25.19 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 19:25.28 | Shirik | it used to be the 800MB disk was swap |
| 19:25.30 | Shirik | but it was too slow |
| 19:25.40 | Shirik | the thing's like 10 years old |
| 19:25.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what KDE + HAL will do for you |
| 19:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And personally I like it |
| 19:26.03 | Kaydeethree | any of the WMs running on f7 will do that. woo hal |
| 19:26.18 | Kaydeethree | I've got my blizzcon cd in but I trimmed that bit out |
| 19:26.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 19:26.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Starcraft is something that should never be |
| 19:26.37 | ScytheBlade1 | "trimmed out" |
| 19:27.26 | Rallion | Starcraft is life! |
| 19:27.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/72505 <-- one of the backup machines at work |
| 19:27.29 | Shirik | Cidan: Thoughts on an OOBE? |
| 19:27.33 | Shirik | I know RDX 6 had one |
| 19:27.40 | Shirik | And I know I'm really way jumping the gun here |
| 19:27.59 | Cidan | hmm |
| 19:28.07 | Cidan | Perhaps |
| 19:28.13 | Shirik | wtf ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:28.17 | Cidan | Not sure if we need it |
| 19:28.17 | Shirik | you have an entire partition for SC? |
| 19:28.19 | Kaydeethree | 1.1tb, cripes |
| 19:28.27 | Kaydeethree | Shirik, nah, that's the CD he's got mounted |
| 19:28.28 | Cidan | our setup will be a bit simpler for the end user |
| 19:28.35 | Shirik | at /dev/hdb? |
| 19:28.57 | Cidan | yes |
| 19:28.59 | Kaydeethree | ya. anything in /media is a removable device |
| 19:29.06 | Cidan | no, not always |
| 19:29.07 | Cidan | but |
| 19:29.15 | Shirik | I could put something in /media if I wanted to :P |
| 19:29.27 | Cidan | ./dev/hdb is his cdrom/dvdrom |
| 19:29.28 | Kaydeethree | automount puts everything in /media, then |
| 19:29.43 | Shirik | huh |
| 19:29.51 | Shirik | I don't think mine comes up that way |
| 19:29.56 | Kaydeethree | what distro? |
| 19:29.57 | Cidan | it does, :P |
| 19:29.58 | Shirik | I really should get back to using linux |
| 19:30.08 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: What I'm remembering would be from SuSE |
| 19:30.24 | Shirik | though I don't use it anymore |
| 19:30.25 | Kaydeethree | ah. ya. sbo and I are both on fedora 7 by the look of it |
| 19:30.35 | Shirik | I swear it was something like /dev/cda |
| 19:30.41 | Cidan | it can be anything |
| 19:30.51 | Cidan | you can alias it to whatever you wan |
| 19:30.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 19:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | No actually |
| 19:30.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Gentoo here |
| 19:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | But I *do* have the CentOS ISOs sitting in ~ |
| 19:31.11 | Cidan | also, when you do get back into it, may I suggest Debian and/or Ubuntu? |
| 19:31.17 | Kaydeethree | uso, really? neat that it's using the same setup that f7 is, then |
| 19:31.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's pretty common actually |
| 19:31.36 | Shirik | you already got me on ubuntu :P |
| 19:31.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:31.55 | Cidan | I just love apt too much |
| 19:31.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to reformat the servers at work though... I put gentoo on them because that's all I had on me at the time |
| 19:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Now that they're up and running, I can't take them down to put something else on :P |
| 19:32.14 | Shirik | it's all I have installed |
| 19:32.15 | Shirik | and I just died |
| 19:32.16 | Shirik | bah |
| 19:32.19 | Shirik | good job Cide |
| 19:32.21 | Shirik | Cidan! |
| 19:32.23 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.27 | Cide | ... |
| 19:32.28 | Cidan | lol? |
| 19:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You're going to be pinging the wrong person for weeks |
| 19:32.48 | Cidan | months, I dare say. |
| 19:32.56 | zenzelezz | if you ignore someone, do you still get mail from them? |
| 19:33.36 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah, Kaydeethree, HAL is nice all around. :) |
| 19:34.03 | Cidan | it's sad, I love linux as a desktop |
| 19:34.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And yes that is just my CD mounted ;P |
| 19:34.10 | Cidan | but I never boot into it. |
| 19:34.20 | Cidan | Wine/Cedega just isn't there yet |
| 19:34.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, it's actually my only desktop |
| 19:34.33 | Cidan | I play many... many game. |
| 19:34.33 | Shirik | really the only reason I've broken away from linux |
| 19:34.40 | Shirik | it really... really... hates my monitor |
| 19:34.48 | Cidan | orly? |
| 19:35.00 | Shirik | and I just don't know enough to fix it |
| 19:35.02 | Cidan | likely just a conf problem |
| 19:35.04 | Shirik | yeah, remember when I was trying to sintall? |
| 19:35.12 | Cidan | have you tried ubuntu? |
| 19:35.21 | Shirik | .... |
| 19:35.28 | Cidan | The live DVD |
| 19:35.32 | Cidan | the newest one |
| 19:36.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather, Kubuntu |
| 19:36.28 | Shirik | well it's installed |
| 19:36.37 | Shirik | maybe I'll get the latest |
| 19:36.41 | Shirik | but don't you remember this a while back? |
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| 19:36.50 | Shirik | me trying to install and having to use the text mode install? |
| 19:36.51 | Cidan | Yes, I do |
| 19:37.11 | Cidan | Also, do you think PF Chang's is cold? |
| 19:37.21 | Cidan | I'm gonna just go in shorts :/ |
| 19:37.36 | Shirik | how should I know >< |
| 19:37.49 | Shirik | and I still have to figure out wha I'm going to wear |
| 19:38.00 | Kaydeethree | eesh |
| 19:38.06 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:38.15 | Shirik | I thought it was bad that it was getting down to 75 at night in FL |
| 19:38.17 | |Jelly| | Can I cry about it being hot? :P |
| 19:38.41 | Kaydeethree | I'd be amazed (and something would have to be horribly wrong with the atmosphere) if we dropped below the 70s at night |
| 19:39.05 | Cidan | Okay, now I'm a pretty nice guy. I'm kind, and I treat people, 'specially women, with respect. |
| 19:39.08 | Cidan | but... ew? http://www.joystiq.com/photos/soe-fan-faire-wedding-and-costume-constest/352428/ |
| 19:39.45 | Kaydeethree | read: sub 20c or so for the rest of the world |
| 19:40.02 | Cidan | also, Cairenn, where are you that it's so cold? |
| 19:40.14 | Cairenn | Ottawa, Ontario |
| 19:40.22 | Cidan | whew, that'll do it |
| 19:40.33 | Cairenn | it was down to 8C last night *cry* |
| 19:40.37 | Cidan | oh oh, do you have that cute Canadian accent? |
| 19:41.03 | Shirik | wow. |
| 19:41.07 | Cidan | How do you say "about" |
| 19:41.11 | Cairenn | about |
| 19:41.15 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 19:41.16 | Cairenn | :P |
| 19:41.24 | Kaydeethree | the normal way, not the canadian aboot way |
| 19:41.31 | Shirik | a boot |
| 19:41.38 | Rallion | lol |
| 19:41.38 | Cidan | or Aboat. |
| 19:42.47 | Cairenn | that's the more likely one, Cidan |
| 19:44.16 | Cidan | I figured you did, :D |
| 19:44.48 | Cairenn | did what? |
| 19:45.40 | cog|work | say aboat |
| 19:45.47 | Cidan | right |
| 19:45.53 | Cairenn | I don't |
| 19:46.14 | Cairenn | but that's the way some say it, contrary to the popular US myth that we say aboot |
| 19:46.35 | Cidan | yeah, it's not aboot, never has been |
| 19:46.44 | Cidan | Never heard anyone say it like that. |
| 19:46.46 | cog|work | until south park |
| 19:46.49 | Shirik | a boot. |
| 19:46.50 | Cidan | That is true. |
| 19:47.58 | Cidan | Should I level? |
| 19:48.01 | Shirik | yes |
| 19:48.10 | Shirik | on drenden |
| 19:48.10 | Cidan | bleh, been so long since I played |
| 19:48.12 | Shirik | as a BE |
| 19:48.14 | Cidan | afraid I'll suck |
| 19:48.17 | Cidan | uh, no thanks. |
| 19:48.36 | Shirik | =( |
| 19:48.55 | Shirik | !vs us drenden Kimina us Eredar Cidan |
| 19:48.59 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Kimina vs Cidan! Kimina has +6 lvls on Cidan (70 vs 64); A L70 priest and a L64 paladin square off!; 23/38/0 vs 9/32/14; Kimina wins by 543 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:49.04 | Shirik | yes, go level Cidan |
| 19:49.07 | Shirik | you need to obviously |
| 19:49.48 | Cidan | I actually would go level |
| 19:49.54 | ScytheBlade1 | TBR? |
| 19:49.55 | Cidan | but it's a carebear server |
| 19:50.03 | Cidan | so no thanks. |
| 19:50.37 | Shirik | ~tbr |
| 19:50.38 | purl | from memory, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other. "to be released" |
| 19:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | !vs us drenden Kimina us Doomhammer Sbo |
| 19:51.01 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: Kimina vs Sbo! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 23/38/0 vs 1/57/3; Kimina wins by 87 TBRs! |
| 19:51.04 | Shirik | woot! |
| 19:51.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That's an interesting formula |
| 19:51.23 | Shirik | I think it's jacked tbh :P |
| 19:51.26 | Cide | !vs us drenden Kimina us Baelgun Swedeheart |
| 19:51.26 | Shirik | I can't kill anything |
| 19:51.29 | ThraeBot | Cide: Kimina vs Swedeheart! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 27/34/0; Kimina wins by 32 TBRs! |
| 19:51.31 | Shirik | though you might not be able to kill me |
| 19:51.31 | cog|work | !vs us drenden kimina us shadowsong cogwheel |
| 19:51.31 | ThraeBot | cog|work: kimina vs cogwheel! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! cogwheel always haxs, so wins automatically. |
| 19:51.47 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 19:51.47 | cog|work | O.O |
| 19:51.51 | ScytheBlade1 | A haqha |
| 19:51.52 | ScytheBlade1 | *haha |
| 19:52.29 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion Jelly us drenden Kimina |
| 19:52.34 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Jelly wins by 7160005 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 19:52.40 | Shirik | wtf! |
| 19:52.43 | |Jelly| | ownt |
| 19:53.00 | ScytheBlade1 | !vs us drenden Kimina us Doomhammer Sbo |
| 19:53.03 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: Kimina vs Sbo! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 23/38/0 vs 1/57/3; Kimina wins by 87 TBRs! |
| 19:53.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh. Apparently none |
| 19:53.23 | Osagasu | !vs us Sentinels Starbreak us Sentinels Creek |
| 19:53.26 | Shirik | aside from the hax, etc. |
| 19:53.27 | ThraeBot | Osagasu: Starbreak vs Creek! A L70 mage and a L70 shaman square off!; 10/48/3 vs 41/0/20; Starbreak wins by 311 TBRs! |
| 19:53.29 | Shirik | those are random afaict |
| 19:53.31 | xb95 | !vs us drenden kimina us feathermoon dern |
| 19:53.31 | ThraeBot | Sorry xb95, you must wait 1 seconds before making another request. |
| 19:53.34 | xb95 | :( |
| 19:53.37 | cog|work | !vs us shadowsong cogwheel us shadowsong cogwheel |
| 19:53.40 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Cogwheel vs Cogwheel! Two 70 warriors square off!; It's a tie! Wow! (1038.1258718408 vs 1038.1258718408) |
| 19:53.43 | Osagasu | Those are my 70s, by the way. >.> |
| 19:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, read my mind |
| 19:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:53.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 19:53.54 | xb95 | !vs us drenden kimina us feathermoon dern |
| 19:53.57 | ThraeBot | xb95: Kimina vs Dern! A L70 priest and a L70 mage square off!; 23/38/0 vs 10/48/3; Kimina wins by 46 TBRs! |
| 19:54.07 | Shirik | I like thrae now |
| 19:54.07 | cog|work | !vs us shadowsong cogwheel us shadowsong mikiva |
| 19:54.10 | Shirik | he makes me feel powerful |
| 19:54.11 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Cogwheel vs Mikiva! A L70 warrior and a L70 warlock square off!; 35/26/0 vs 41/5/15; Mikiva wins by 451 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:54.15 | Osagasu | !vs us Sentinels Sondessa us Sentinels Belorei |
| 19:54.18 | ThraeBot | Osagasu: Sondessa vs Belorei! A L61 priest and a L61 hunter square off!; 11/0/41 vs 45/4/3; Sondessa wins by 404 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:54.20 | Cide | what? |
| 19:54.24 | ScytheBlade1 | !vs us Doomhammer Humanrogue us Doomhammer Sbo |
| 19:54.25 | Cide | warlocks don't beat warriors |
| 19:54.27 | ThraeBot | ScytheBlade1: Humanrogue vs Sbo! A L70 rogue and a L70 mage square off!; 45/16/0 vs 1/57/3; Sbo wins by 330 TBRs! |
| 19:54.30 | zenzelezz | !vs us shadowsong cogwheel eu silvermoon zenzio |
| 19:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all I win by? |
| 19:54.35 | ThraeBot | zenzelezz: Cogwheel vs Zenzio! Two 70 warriors square off!; 35/26/0 vs 11/0/50; Zenzio wins by 250 TBRs! |
| 19:54.38 | Shirik | well I don't beat anyone :P |
| 19:54.41 | Shirik | I can't kill a fly |
| 19:54.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I think your formula is broke |
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| 19:55.28 | Thunder_Child | !vs us burning legion Jelly us draenor prismatic |
| 19:55.33 | ThraeBot | Thunder_Child: Jelly vs Prismatic! Two 70 priests square off!; 23/38/0 vs 34/27/0; Prismatic wins by 155 TBRs! |
| 19:55.46 | cog|work | Cide: she just might beat me... I have about 10 minutes of PvP experience on cogwheel... |
| 19:55.50 | Shirik | !vs us burning legion Jelly us drenden Kimina |
| 19:55.53 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 162 TBRs! |
| 19:55.54 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i do seem to keep beating the other priests |
| 19:55.56 | Shirik | woot! |
| 19:55.58 | Shirik | I beat |Jelly| |
| 19:56.00 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 19:56.02 | Kaydeethree | huzzah, my redvsblue season 5 dvd's here |
| 19:56.03 | |Jelly| | lies |
| 19:56.09 | Cide | cog|work: just hit death wish and everything will work out for you |
| 19:56.18 | cog|work | !vs us shadowsong cogwheel us shadowsong cogprog |
| 19:56.21 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion Jelly us drenden Kimina |
| 19:56.21 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Cogwheel vs Cogprog! Cogwheel has +58 lvls on Cogprog (70 vs 12); Two warriors square off!; 35/26/0 vs 0/3/0; Cogwheel wins by 952 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:56.25 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Jelly vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; Kimina wins by 162 TBRs! |
| 19:56.31 | |Jelly| | DIE SHIRIK! |
| 19:56.37 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.50 | cog|work | !vs us drenden kimina us shadowsong cogwheel |
| 19:56.51 | Cide | !vs us drenden Kimina us baelgun phixx |
| 19:56.54 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Kimina vs Cogwheel! A L70 priest and a L70 warrior square off!; 23/38/0 vs 35/26/0; Kimina wins by 453 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:56.58 | ThraeBot | Cide: Kimina vs Phixx! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 23/38/0 vs 17/44/0; Kimina wins by 349 TBRs! |
| 19:57.04 | Cide | you're unstoppable shirik |
| 19:57.25 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion Klot us drenden Kimina |
| 19:57.26 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Klot vs Kimina! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Someone trains Kazzak on the duel, killing Klot instantly. |
| 19:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ~tbr |
| 19:57.27 | purl | from memory, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings, an invention of Thrae for his ThraeBot. It works on a weighted logarithmic algorithm that, when used to compare two characters, tries to take which classes are fighting each other. "to be released" |
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| 19:57.35 | Cide | !vs us drenden kimina us drenden kimina |
| 19:57.38 | ThraeBot | Cide: Kimina vs Kimina! Two 70 priests square off!; It's a tie! Wow! (785.91956375961 vs 785.91956375961) |
| 19:57.50 | Cide | it's lower than that of cog? |
| 19:57.53 | Cide | but cog still wins |
| 19:57.57 | Cide | err, shirik still wins |
| 19:58.14 | Cide | unless lower is better? seems weird |
| 19:58.15 | |Jelly| | !vs us drenden Shirik us drenden Kimina |
| 19:58.19 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
| 19:58.25 | |Jelly| | I do. |
| 19:58.26 | cog|work | rfol |
| 19:58.27 | |Jelly| | I know. |
| 19:58.29 | haste | lol |
| 19:58.58 | Shirik | shirik is on eredar |
| 19:59.02 | |Jelly| | !vs us drenden Shirik drenden Kimina |
| 19:59.05 | |Jelly| | DAMN YOU |
| 19:59.17 | |Jelly| | >!vs us eredar Shirik drenden Kimina |
| 19:59.21 | |Jelly| | I give up. |
| 19:59.26 | Shirik | it's ok, you'd win |
| 19:59.29 | Shirik | Shirik is... bleh |
| 19:59.34 | |Jelly| | Someone else do it. I'm going back to Shattered Halls failsauce |
| 19:59.39 | cog|work | !vs us eredar shirik us eredar mikina |
| 19:59.43 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Shirik vs Mikina! Shirik has +31 lvls on Mikina (70 vs 39); Two hunters square off!; 3/50/8 vs 0/15/15; Shirik wins by 1200 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 20:00.11 | cog|work | Shirik: you've got a good economy over there... |
| 20:00.30 | cog|work | that's where my wife has >1500g on her 39 hunter... |
| 20:01.13 | |Jelly| | !vs us burning legion jelly burning legion klot |
| 20:01.36 | cog|work | !vs us shadowsong mikina us shadowsong carmon |
| 20:01.38 | |Jelly| | So like I said. Back to my fail group. |
| 20:01.41 | ThraeBot | cog|work: Mikina vs Carmon! Carmon has +1 lvls on Mikina (63 vs 64); A L63 mage and a L64 warlock square off!; 13/0/41 vs 21/32/1; Carmon wins by 86 TBRs! |
| 20:02.05 | Shirik | cog|work: I'm broke |
| 20:03.01 | Shirik | but yeah our economy is ok |
| 20:03.40 | cog|work | 1) Two gathering skills 2) auction mule 3) profit. (what? did you think i was going to leave 2 ambiguous?) |
| 20:04.45 | Cide | but you must! |
| 20:04.55 | Cide | 1) Two gathering skills + auction mule 2) ??? 3) profit. |
| 20:05.51 | cog|work | + multiple daily auctioneer scans |
| 20:05.53 | cog|work | :P |
| 20:06.59 | Shirik | oh |Jelly| |
| 20:07.02 | Shirik | Kimina would win |
| 20:07.05 | Shirik | I've tried it already |
| 20:07.12 | Shirik | and tbh, shirik would kill her really every time |
| 20:08.24 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:12.29 | Thunder_Child | and i would kill you both |
| 20:13.07 | Thunder_Child | Holy DPS ftw |
| 20:13.44 | zenzelezz | "Seriously, who the hell just spoke on Vent, was that Zenzio?" "Someone record this" |
| 20:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | There's really one type of player that gives me trouble... healers. :( |
| 20:14.13 | Cidan | Shirik, I've decided what I'm going to wear |
| 20:14.24 | Cidan | Nothing. |
| 20:14.34 | Cidan | I'm going naked. |
| 20:14.58 | Thunder_Child | soulds like that is going to be an interesting dinner |
| 20:15.02 | Thunder_Child | sounds* |
| 20:15.26 | Cidan | Well I think I do. |
| 20:15.29 | Thunder_Child | naked chinese....sounds poetic |
| 20:15.35 | Cidan | er |
| 20:15.38 | Cairenn | you're human, I trust? |
| 20:15.39 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:15.47 | Cidan | http://emoemu.com/cidan.jpg |
| 20:15.55 | Cairenn | if so, you have a decent body :p |
| 20:16.11 | Saint-N | that still reminds me of transformers |
| 20:16.16 | Cidan | ... |
| 20:16.17 | Cidan | how? |
| 20:16.18 | Thunder_Child | flattering pic i see |
| 20:16.20 | Cidan | How in gods name |
| 20:16.24 | Cidan | does me going naked |
| 20:16.28 | Saint-N | when hes in the car flexing to show her the light and the disco ball |
| 20:16.28 | Cidan | remind you of transformers? |
| 20:16.34 | Saint-N | the picture |
| 20:16.35 | Cidan | rofl |
| 20:16.36 | Cidan | oh |
| 20:16.36 | Cidan | :D |
| 20:17.00 | Cidan | My girl took that picture while I was drinking, she asked me to turn around and snapped it |
| 20:17.05 | Cidan | it was more of a "wtf" shot |
| 20:17.10 | Shirik | yeah right |
| 20:17.12 | Shirik | I can see you flexing |
| 20:17.15 | Saint-N | well in the old cartoon bumble bee transformed to barely taller than a human, in the new movie he's a good 40 feet tall |
| 20:17.27 | Cidan | That's not me flexing, :P |
| 20:17.32 | Thunder_Child | i see...so of all the pic you have of you, this is the one you wish to share.... |
| 20:17.43 | Saint-N | *flex* let me just drink some *grunt* gatorade for ya. |
| 20:17.43 | Thunder_Child | says something about you |
| 20:17.51 | Cidan | rofl |
| 20:18.34 | Cidan | Well Thunder_Child, seems you want to see more of me then. |
| 20:18.41 | Shirik | I think so |
| 20:18.43 | Cidan | Perhaps we should... talk about it? |
| 20:19.07 | Thunder_Child | why talk when you can.... |
| 20:19.15 | Thunder_Child | run screaming from the room |
| 20:19.19 | Cidan | hah |
| 20:19.21 | Cidan | :D |
| 20:21.29 | Shirik | how old were you in that picture? |
| 20:22.16 | Cidan | uh |
| 20:22.20 | Cidan | 23? |
| 20:22.22 | Cidan | maybe 24? |
| 20:23.13 | Shirik | you look like some of the people from my high school >< |
| 20:23.25 | cog|work | is there a/what is the minimum character name length? |
| 20:23.44 | *** join/#wowi-lounge herzogthc (i=wsmith@c-75-66-44-85.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 20:23.50 | herzogthc | ahhh |
| 20:23.51 | Cidan | My family tends to not show age |
| 20:23.52 | herzogthc | here is it |
| 20:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | 3 |
| 20:23.54 | herzogthc | s |
| 20:23.56 | herzogthc | err ..it is |
| 20:23.58 | Cide | 2 |
| 20:24.02 | herzogthc | 1? |
| 20:24.06 | Cide | 2 chars |
| 20:24.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 2? I really thought it was 3 |
| 20:24.20 | herzogthc | Cidan: So you work with Lua a lot in terms of dealing with the Wow UI API, right? |
| 20:24.23 | Cide | back on alleria, a guildie was called 'No' |
| 20:24.26 | herzogthc | I'm creating general terminology that there is an API |
| 20:24.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Nice. |
| 20:24.40 | herzogthc | doesn't matter what you call it, interfacing w/ their xml/lua is interfacing with an API ;) |
| 20:24.50 | Shirik | herzogthc: A lot of us do :P |
| 20:24.52 | herzogthc | Cidan: That question leads to other questions, sorry to just come in here all talking to you like i know you etc. |
| 20:25.02 | Cide | and I met someone called 'Il' when doing arenas last night (killed her) |
| 20:25.03 | Cidan | huh |
| 20:25.05 | Cidan | uh |
| 20:25.05 | herzogthc | Shirik: But I saw him post something the other day, and Cidan in particular has other knowledge that intrigues me ;) |
| 20:25.13 | herzogthc | specifically his networking ability/etc. |
| 20:25.19 | Cidan | Yeah, why? |
| 20:25.24 | herzogthc | Cidan: I also forgot which nick I used when I wasi n here lol |
| 20:25.30 | Shirik | WoW has no direct access to networking |
| 20:25.31 | herzogthc | Cidan: I saw some book @ borders today about hacking the WoW UI |
| 20:25.32 | Cidan | I think this one |
| 20:25.33 | Shirik | if you're moving along those lines |
| 20:25.38 | herzogthc | Shirik: nonono not at all |
| 20:25.42 | Cidan | herzogthc, likely Clad's book |
| 20:25.54 | Cidan | or the one he put stuff into |
| 20:25.54 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10302 |
| 20:26.00 | Cairenn | (the book) |
| 20:26.51 | Cidan | herzogthc, what did you need to know? |
| 20:28.56 | Cidan | and all of the sudden |
| 20:28.58 | Cidan | all is quiet. |
| 20:29.16 | Cidan | man, I need to plop this ATI card into my other server |
| 20:29.26 | cog|work | herzogthc: fwiw, addressing the channel in general is a better idea than one person... Someone who knows the answer might not pay attention to the question if you do :P |
| 20:29.50 | Cidan | cog|work, agreedz0r. |
| 20:30.00 | Cidan | we're all pretty smart in here, and no one got anywhere by doing work all alone. |
| 20:30.17 | Cidan | playing off others ideas and thoughts is what got our race to where it is today |
| 20:30.26 | Shirik | blood elf? |
| 20:30.27 | cog|work | division of labor 4tw |
| 20:30.35 | Cidan | blood elf fails. |
| 20:30.36 | Cidan | hard. |
| 20:30.49 | Shirik | =( |
| 20:30.56 | Cidan | I'm tellin ya |
| 20:31.01 | Cidan | if you woulda picked PvP |
| 20:31.07 | Cidan | we'd be leveling hand-in-hand right now |
| 20:31.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 20:31.22 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 20:31.24 | cog|work | Blood elves are to the horde what female night elf hunters (except cairenn & iriel) are to the alliance |
| 20:32.03 | Shirik | hehe |
| 20:32.20 | Saint-N | i still love that no matter what gear my be paladin female found it was always a halter top thong/hotpants and thigh high boots |
| 20:32.32 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:32.33 | Shirik | it's true |
| 20:32.34 | herzogthc | sorry i'm at work |
| 20:32.40 | herzogthc | so I get up and sit down a lot |
| 20:32.45 | Shirik | work on a sunday? |
| 20:33.00 | Cidan | "OH LOOK, THIS PLATE OF THE DEMONFORGE IS.... SEXY!" |
| 20:33.01 | Thunder_Child | it's monday |
| 20:33.05 | Cidan | Shirik, it's monday. |
| 20:33.06 | Cidan | wow. |
| 20:33.09 | herzogthc | Anyway |
| 20:33.09 | Shirik | it's definitely monday. |
| 20:33.15 | herzogthc | the first thing I wanted to ask was if that book was any good |
| 20:33.20 | herzogthc | I looked through it some, but I was on lunch |
| 20:33.23 | Cidan | Yes, yes it is. |
| 20:33.28 | cog|work | herzogthc: depends what you want from it |
| 20:33.43 | cog|work | if you want to learn to write addons, it's a nice intro but doesn't take you very far |
| 20:33.43 | Cidan | and it depends on how you work, I suppose |
| 20:33.43 | *** join/#wowi-lounge stavmar_ (n=chatzill@fw2.isgenesis.com) |
| 20:33.52 | herzogthc | I mainly wanna know hw to make lua interface w/ the graphics within WoW and have a reference to functions relevant to doing that |
| 20:34.04 | cog|work | http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 20:34.10 | Cidan | ^^ |
| 20:34.12 | Cidan | that site. |
| 20:34.13 | herzogthc | ok |
| 20:34.31 | herzogthc | I was gonna start doing research there but I'm interested in a.) Finding a community first (done) b.) Saw that book and wanted to inquire about it's relevance to learning about it |
| 20:35.24 | Cidan | A lot of what you do depends on your mind set. Do you want to build an entire framework, or just simple one-shot UI's? Do you want to write code that can be reused many times, or write a unique solution to every problem? |
| 20:35.44 | Cidan | You face the same issues you do with any other task you come across while programming. |
| 20:35.48 | herzogthc | well, reusability is key in what I do everywhere else but I'm not sure that it's entirely the same here. |
| 20:35.49 | Cidan | In any language, really. |
| 20:35.51 | cog|work | herzogthc: tbqh, the bulk of HWoW is written for users |
| 20:35.54 | herzogthc | A lot of what I want to accomplish |
| 20:36.05 | herzogthc | can be done through small modifications to much larger UI addons |
| 20:36.10 | Saint-N | herzogthc: talk to cryect on wowace |
| 20:36.17 | Saint-N | he's the nerd that made the mode7 addon |
| 20:36.36 | Saint-N | if you mean actual graphics and not just "skinned" images |
| 20:36.59 | Cidan | a mode7 addon? hah |
| 20:37.02 | Cidan | nice? |
| 20:37.03 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 20:37.06 | Saint-N | we' |
| 20:37.19 | Saint-N | we've been pestering him to make a network mario kart ;) |
| 20:37.37 | Saint-N | which would drive all raids to a stand still ;) |
| 20:37.49 | Cidan | Oh man, that's neat. |
| 20:37.52 | Saint-N | although it would be awesome as a replacement for cng ;P |
| 20:38.00 | Cidan | it would chew through CPU though |
| 20:38.04 | Saint-N | you win the race you get the loot |
| 20:38.41 | herzogthc | hmm |
| 20:39.02 | herzogthc | So I'm assuming the bulk of the WoW servers were written with Visual Studio? |
| 20:39.05 | herzogthc | prob C++? |
| 20:39.11 | Cidan | unlikely |
| 20:39.12 | |Jelly| | !ap 1700 |
| 20:39.12 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Arena points from a rating of 1700 is, 2v2: 436, 3v3: 498, 5v5: 623 |
| 20:39.15 | Cidan | well C++ |
| 20:39.19 | Cidan | but unlikely VS |
| 20:39.23 | cog|work | herzogthc: probably, but irrelevant |
| 20:39.26 | clad|away | herzogthc: A book is currently being written (like now) specifically for wow addon developers. |
| 20:39.27 | Cidan | yar |
| 20:39.31 | cog|work | except for curiosity |
| 20:39.43 | herzogthc | clad|away: They mentioned that you perhaps had a hand in this book I saw today |
| 20:39.54 | herzogthc | cladbot: Blue book, "Hacking World of Warcraft"? :) |
| 20:39.58 | cladhaire | as in i wrote a quarter of it and edited thee ntire thing |
| 20:39.59 | cladhaire | yes. |
| 20:40.04 | cladhaire | and a new one is being written |
| 20:40.25 | herzogthc | cladbot: That is incredibly awesome, so I know who to go to if I buy it and have questions about content within it ;) |
| 20:40.30 | Saint-N | will buy the book just to see how many teh's exist in it with clad editor sk1llz |
| 20:40.48 | herzogthc | cladbot: I'm taking it that means your Lua skills are at a professional level |
| 20:41.01 | cog|work | herzogthc: paying attention to tab completion 4tw... |
| 20:41.02 | cog|work | <.< |
| 20:41.04 | cog|work | >.> |
| 20:41.10 | herzogthc | cog|work: using bitchx |
| 20:41.19 | herzogthc | cog|work: I type xxxx: and it autocompletes for me ;) |
| 20:41.25 | cog|work | heh |
| 20:41.25 | Shirik | herzogthc: Again, I strongly recommend you don't ask specific people |
| 20:41.41 | Shirik | more than one or two people in this channel are well capable of answering almost any question you can think of |
| 20:41.48 | Shirik | And even if we can't, we know where to go to the get the answer |
| 20:41.55 | herzogthc | Shirik: in other words, don't pester the gurus |
| 20:41.56 | cladhaire | indeed, you should ask the channel |
| 20:41.58 | herzogthc | Shirik: gotcha. ;) |
| 20:42.00 | cladhaire | and never use Pms |
| 20:42.09 | cladhaire | if you're asking, someone else probably needs the answer too |
| 20:42.14 | Shirik | If someone sends me a PM, which has happened before |
| 20:42.23 | Shirik | I will always respond the same way cladhaire just did |
| 20:42.33 | herzogthc | oh Iw on't ever ask a ui-related questoin in pm |
| 20:42.35 | Lin | Cidan: hi there pal! |
| 20:42.36 | herzogthc | if I ever use pm it's because it's offtopic |
| 20:42.38 | herzogthc | of channel |
| 20:42.41 | herzogthc | and/or irrelevant to everyone else |
| 20:42.43 | Cidan | Lin: howdy, :P |
| 20:42.51 | cog|work | herzogthc: also, a little-thought-about side effect of asking the channel is that anyone else who sees the convo will know the answer in the future |
| 20:42.55 | herzogthc | I'm not ignorant. Just new to programming --- relatively :) |
| 20:42.58 | Lin | Cidan: how conspiracy is going? |
| 20:43.02 | Cidan | Very well |
| 20:43.07 | Cidan | We're getting a lot done |
| 20:43.09 | Shirik | =( |
| 20:43.16 | Shirik | of course they ask you! |
| 20:43.21 | herzogthc | lol |
| 20:43.23 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:43.28 | herzogthc | Shirik: You're just depressed for the lack of recognition huh? |
| 20:43.31 | Lin | Cidan: good. Im waiting for you have something more workable. Im willing to build some tools using your tools |
| 20:43.39 | Cidan | Goodie, :P |
| 20:43.40 | Shirik | ...... |
| 20:43.46 | Shirik | I give up |
| 20:43.46 | Cidan | We're getting there, window API is almost done |
| 20:43.54 | Cidan | I refactored a lot of stuff, made some clean ups |
| 20:44.01 | herzogthc | I recognize two things pretty quick, a.) Cidan is the person I least like having my IP, and b.) I'm by far the low man on the totem pole; nearly everything said here is over my head but i'm catching up :) |
| 20:44.02 | Lin | Cidan: I was thiking in write a tutorial with my learning efforts |
| 20:44.15 | Lin | Cidan: will help every one. |
| 20:44.18 | Cidan | That would be nice, we could put it up on the Wiki when we get it up. |
| 20:44.31 | Lin | Cidan: then, we have a deal |
| 20:44.31 | Shirik | herzogthc: It extends a bit beyond that |
| 20:44.52 | herzogthc | initial perception versus cognitive recognition of the bigger picture hehe |
| 20:45.00 | herzogthc | but yeah |
| 20:45.04 | herzogthc | I'm aware of that too |
| 20:45.08 | Shirik | For example, the fact that I'm the one who started conspiracy |
| 20:45.10 | herzogthc | this channel rocks though |
| 20:45.15 | herzogthc | Shirik: in that case, what is it |
| 20:45.16 | Cidan | Shirik, lol |
| 20:45.22 | Cidan | www.conspiracy-ui.com |
| 20:45.22 | herzogthc | cause I was gonna ask Cidan. |
| 20:45.36 | Cidan | Well, maybe if you oh.. I dunno, commit more than once in a blue moon. :P |
| 20:45.56 | herzogthc | Shirik: And THAT'S why I have no problem addressing someone in the channel itself, Cidan will answer my question regardless cause he's pimp like that ;) |
| 20:46.03 | Cidan | Jesus |
| 20:46.05 | Shirik | I'd like to do a line-by-line analysis |
| 20:46.09 | Shirik | who's written more |
| 20:46.10 | herzogthc | Cidan: Yes, yes you are ;) |
| 20:46.18 | Cidan | Er, okay? Thanks? |
| 20:46.33 | herzogthc | Cidan: You threatened anyone who stole your nick with thumping them off the network |
| 20:46.37 | Shirik | it's unfair to compare svn commits |
| 20:46.38 | herzogthc | Cidan: I've been on the receiving end of that stick before |
| 20:46.38 | Cidan | no |
| 20:46.42 | Shirik | my first 2 months went into r1 |
| 20:46.42 | Cidan | That was Shirik |
| 20:46.43 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:46.44 | Cidan | :D |
| 20:46.47 | herzogthc | oh that was confusing |
| 20:46.49 | herzogthc | whoever |
| 20:46.50 | herzogthc | whateva |
| 20:46.53 | Cidan | hahaha |
| 20:46.54 | herzogthc | just don't thump my home network please |
| 20:46.54 | Shirik | .... |
| 20:46.57 | Shirik | you know what |
| 20:46.57 | Shirik | fine |
| 20:47.01 | Cidan | roflll |
| 20:47.04 | Cidan | ahaha |
| 20:47.13 | herzogthc | heh |
| 20:47.20 | herzogthc | Cidan2: I'm sorry? |
| 20:47.24 | herzogthc | I feel so goddamned newbish |
| 20:47.28 | Cidan2 | and now he's calling me Cidan! |
| 20:47.29 | Cidan2 | see?! |
| 20:47.32 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:47.42 | herzogthc | Cidan2: I'm addressing you at this nick because I saw "Shirik is now known as Cidan2" |
| 20:47.56 | herzogthc | Cidan2: Besides, you should claim alphabet discrimination |
| 20:47.58 | herzogthc | c comes before s. |
| 20:48.19 | Cidan | When it comes down to it, Shirik and I are partners in crime. We work well together and have for a long time. |
| 20:48.26 | herzogthc | damn I gotta remember that one for later, alphabet discrimination |
| 20:48.38 | Shirik | we work on completely separate portions because we have different strengths |
| 20:48.42 | Lin | Cidan: about fonts.. you can use the beauty nimbus set |
| 20:48.49 | Cidan | Lin: Show me |
| 20:48.49 | cog|work | like Cide & TS |
| 20:48.55 | herzogthc | well I've only been in a professional programming environment for about 2 years, and I've only been learning on that level for the same time-frame |
| 20:48.58 | Lin | Cidan: there is a serif and non-serifed and a monotype |
| 20:49.03 | Lin | Cidan: ok.. wait |
| 20:49.11 | herzogthc | however fwiw I have the upmost respect for the both of you just in what knowledge I've seen demonstrated in casual conversation |
| 20:49.25 | Lin | Cidan: isnt ttf |
| 20:49.38 | Lin | Cidan: must be ttf? |
| 20:49.40 | Cidan | Hmm |
| 20:49.42 | herzogthc | anyway |
| 20:49.46 | Cidan | Depends how well it scales |
| 20:49.51 | Cidan | I'll try it out and see |
| 20:49.53 | Lin | ok.. lemme check |
| 20:49.58 | herzogthc | my background is when I first started dinking around in programming, was in pure C on a MUD |
| 20:50.05 | Cidan | mm |
| 20:50.08 | Cidan | that's how I started |
| 20:50.09 | herzogthc | so that's why the WoW UI is so intriguing to me |
| 20:50.12 | cog|work | Cidan: http://www.gnome.org/fonts/ |
| 20:50.16 | herzogthc | now I'm doing PHP web development |
| 20:50.18 | herzogthc | which blows goats |
| 20:50.27 | herzogthc | both the php part and the web part |
| 20:50.27 | herzogthc | :) |
| 20:50.35 | Shirik | But seriously though, the API is written by both of us, that's just what I was abit annoyed about. As of right now Cidan's written all of window API and I've written all the random other things |
| 20:50.41 | Cidan | herzogthc, Shirik is a fan of PHP, be warned. |
| 20:50.43 | Shirik | like units, events, root |
| 20:50.45 | Shirik | oooh |
| 20:50.49 | Shirik | someone wants to get hurt |
| 20:50.50 | herzogthc | Cidan: I LOVE PHP |
| 20:50.54 | herzogthc | Cidan: I hate it for web development |
| 20:50.55 | herzogthc | well |
| 20:50.55 | herzogthc | here |
| 20:51.00 | Cidan | Man, that's another strike for you. |
| 20:51.01 | herzogthc | actually I think I just hate my job |
| 20:51.10 | mikma | what about your parents |
| 20:51.12 | mikma | do you hate tehem |
| 20:51.20 | Lin | http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/nimbus-sans/l-black/ |
| 20:51.20 | Shirik | I think herzogthc's goal in life is to make me angry :D |
| 20:51.25 | Lin | the bold version. this font is free |
| 20:51.27 | Cide | herzogthc: I love web development, and hate PHP for web development! |
| 20:51.40 | Cide | Shirik just likes it because it's C! |
| 20:51.41 | herzogthc | Cidan: Being asked to produce a viable remoting script to play a flash game that can handle 10,000 users on the first day, and being given 2 wks to do so |
| 20:51.45 | Cidan | Lin: Excellent, I will try them out later tonight |
| 20:51.52 | herzogthc | Cidan: it's probably irrelevant what language it was, that's a shitty timeframe :P |
| 20:52.01 | Shirik | Lin: Free as in GPL compatible? |
| 20:52.02 | herzogthc | Shirik: So you like php a lot too? |
| 20:52.10 | herzogthc | Shirik: I've used php as shell scripting replacement in a lot of cases with really nice results |
| 20:52.23 | Lin | you can get it from free fonts package |
| 20:52.26 | herzogthc | having like four regular expression parsers at your disposal is awesome :) |
| 20:52.33 | Shirik | that's not reallyanswering the question though :/ |
| 20:52.34 | Lin | as in FREEDOM! |
| 20:52.37 | Shirik | there's a lot of definitions of "free" |
| 20:52.53 | Cidan | It's free Shirik, :P |
| 20:52.56 | Cidan | Free to use |
| 20:52.59 | Lin | Shirik: as in freedom! |
| 20:53.02 | Lin | Shirik: GPL |
| 20:53.07 | Lin | debian compatible |
| 20:53.15 | Lin | comes in free fronts from debian/ubuntu package |
| 20:53.19 | Shirik | ok, that's what I needed to know |
| 20:53.28 | herzogthc | hey shirik how much php stuff have you upgraded from 4->5? |
| 20:53.45 | Lin | herzogthc: objects, classes, memory usage. |
| 20:53.49 | herzogthc | since you're convenient and like php, maybe you can answer a question |
| 20:53.56 | Shirik | as conspiracy is GPL'ed we need it to be GPL compatible |
| 20:54.15 | herzogthc | Lin: Some regexes that were written on a site using php4 completely barfed on php5 |
| 20:54.16 | Lin | Shirik: I know. Im a gnu zealot too. |
| 20:54.30 | Lin | herzogthc: this is an undocumented feature (TM) |
| 20:54.36 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:54.41 | herzogthc | ahh yes the wonderful synonym for bugs |
| 20:54.41 | herzogthc | hehe |
| 20:54.58 | Lin | herzogthc: I really dunno about regex.. maybe they have changed for perl regex syntax |
| 20:55.03 | herzogthc | I mean it was just using regex to parse out what would eventually become SQL statements |
| 20:55.04 | herzogthc | so |
| 20:55.05 | Lin | regex in php4->5 |
| 20:55.12 | herzogthc | I'm just gonna use php4 to generate the sql |
| 20:55.21 | herzogthc | and then insert it into the new server ;) |
| 20:55.21 | herzogthc | but |
| 20:55.38 | herzogthc | I was hoping I could get a lead on why the expression was screwing up in the first place, everything I've read indicates it should work fine |
| 20:55.44 | herzogthc | I wonder if I'm using an unstable version of php5 on this machine. |
| 20:56.48 | Shirik | anyway sorry, I was healing |
| 20:56.59 | Shirik | I actually just downgraded from 5 to 4 and it sucked |
| 20:57.02 | Shirik | I really like 5 |
| 20:57.04 | Cidan | Dude, you can heal in real life? |
| 20:57.07 | Shirik | ..... |
| 20:57.09 | Cidan | That so kicks ass. |
| 20:57.26 | cog|work | Cidan: that's what drug stores are for |
| 20:57.46 | Cidan | Drugs don't heal, they just make you feel better. :P |
| 20:57.49 | Shirik | also, |
| 20:57.57 | Shirik | what are you using for database interface in php? |
| 20:57.57 | cog|work | Cidan: not necessarily true |
| 20:58.04 | Shirik | since you're talking about parsing SQL statements |
| 20:58.04 | cog|work | and drug stores sell more than just drugs |
| 20:58.06 | Cidan | cog|work, I know, antibiotics, etc, :P |
| 20:58.08 | cog|work | bandaids help heal |
| 20:58.14 | cog|work | and splints |
| 20:58.16 | Cidan | right, I was just goofin' |
| 20:58.23 | Shirik | (@herzogthc) |
| 20:59.03 | bleeter | this is so good, crossposting... http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/21/2010380.htm ... wonder if Blizz will take a suggestion based on this RL event |
| 20:59.06 | cog|work | Cidan: I actually had a health teacher try to pull that one over on us... He actually told us that was the difference between OTC and Rx drugs... OTC treat symptoms, Rx treat cause |
| 20:59.23 | Shirik | not really true :/ |
| 20:59.23 | Cidan | Wow. |
| 20:59.27 | Cidan | That's so not right. |
| 21:00.01 | cog|work | Shirik: s/not really/really not/ |
| 21:00.09 | Shirik | well it is partially true :P |
| 21:00.17 | cog|work | not really :P |
| 21:00.24 | Shirik | very few OTC drugs treat causes, most Rx drugs treat causes |
| 21:00.32 | cog|work | i would tend to disagree |
| 21:00.33 | Shirik | s/most/many/ |
| 21:00.50 | Cidan | I disagree with that too |
| 21:00.51 | Shirik | most OTC drugs are things like tylenol, etc., that just mess with your brain or whatever |
| 21:01.09 | Shirik | course I know nothing abuot this stuff |
| 21:01.14 | Cidan | I think almost any medicine you take by mouth is largely worthless in helping you get better. |
| 21:01.17 | cog|work | Shirik: A lot of OTC drugs treat symptoms whose causes are untreatable |
| 21:01.28 | Shirik | even though my dad has a phd in biochemistry and is a patent lawyer for this stuff >.> I didn't inherit that interest |
| 21:01.29 | Cidan | note I said almost, not all |
| 21:01.34 | cog|work | hehe |
| 21:02.10 | Cidan | Mmm, if I were to live long enough I think I'd study all sciences |
| 21:02.17 | Shirik | oh god no |
| 21:02.22 | cog|work | i sure wouldn't |
| 21:02.24 | Shirik | I could never do that |
| 21:02.38 | cog|work | as much of a knowledge whore as I am, there are some topics that simply bore me to tears |
| 21:02.42 | zenzelezz | I prefer to only study girls |
| 21:02.45 | Cidan | I would, I love all sciences, even the more liberal art-ish ones |
| 21:02.59 | Shirik | I just can't get into a lot of things |
| 21:03.05 | Shirik | biology, geology |
| 21:03.15 | Cidan | Oh man, I love biology |
| 21:03.20 | Shirik | can't stand it |
| 21:03.25 | Shirik | it's too much memorization |
| 21:03.37 | Cidan | psh, so is any other science |
| 21:03.43 | Shirik | I would disagree |
| 21:03.50 | Cidan | Name one that you don't have to |
| 21:03.52 | Shirik | naturally you have to memorize things in anything |
| 21:04.07 | Shirik | but some you have to memorize more than others |
| 21:04.19 | Cidan | Name one where memorization is a "light" thing |
| 21:04.20 | bleeter | a dwarf gets his penis stuck in a vacuum cleaner... and no one comments |
| 21:04.26 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:04.28 | Cidan | ... |
| 21:04.37 | cog|work | … |
| 21:04.42 | bleeter | ‽ |
| 21:04.46 | Shirik | stop with the unicode damn it! |
| 21:04.53 | cog|work | lern2utf8damnit |
| 21:04.53 | Shirik | I demand only standard ASCII! |
| 21:05.19 | Shirik | I don't want to see "a-circomflex, euro, 1/2" and have to say "oh that's ..." |
| 21:05.35 | bleeter | Shirik: set your system up correctly, then! |
| 21:05.40 | Shirik | lazy |
| 21:05.47 | Shirik | I don't want to be on this anyway |
| 21:05.50 | bleeter | don't whine to me about your laziness! :P |
| 21:05.59 | bleeter | oh, sorry |
| 21:06.05 | bleeter | my tone of voice was set for #pidgin |
| 21:06.11 | Shirik | rofl |
| 21:07.20 | Shirik | btw Cidan |
| 21:07.29 | Cidan | Shirik, be sure to leave with plenty of time to spare |
| 21:07.30 | Shirik | You've copied that copyright notice about 5 times now |
| 21:07.37 | Shirik | and still haven't put your email address in |
| 21:08.08 | cog|work | bleeter: that would be worthy of a darwin award if it had affected his ability to reproduce |
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| 21:08.43 | Cidan | ew |
| 21:08.43 | Cidan | anyways |
| 21:08.43 | Cidan | yes I want all hatemail to go to you, and, be sure you leave with a lot of time to spare. |
| 21:08.50 | Cidan | Traffic down that way is nuts around 5-7 |
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| 21:11.04 | Shirik | I still need to shower etc too |
| 21:11.13 | Shirik | do you have an address for the place? |
| 21:11.24 | Cidan | I gave you the map link... |
| 21:11.28 | Shirik | I didn't look at it :P |
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| 21:11.36 | Cidan | You're so full of fail sometimes. |
| 21:11.52 | Shirik | I believe we have come to the conclusion that any failures on my part are automatically redirected to you |
| 21:11.54 | Shirik | have we not? |
| 21:12.19 | Cidan | That's funny, I'm pretty sure I left my email out of the copyright notice, :P |
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| 21:12.37 | Cidan | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&q=Cheesecake+factory&near=Falls+Church&ie=UTF8&ll=38.918952,-77.173634&spn=0.089618,0.160675&z=13&iwloc=A&om=1 |
| 21:12.46 | Shirik | you did |
| 21:13.02 | Cidan | It's literally, to the left of it if you are facing it from the outside. |
| 21:13.19 | Shirik | hold up, 123 becomes 7? |
| 21:13.25 | Shirik | has that always been true? |
| 21:13.48 | Cidan | Christ |
| 21:13.54 | Cidan | How do you tie your shoes in the morning? |
| 21:14.00 | Shirik | I don't go down that road often |
| 21:14.02 | Cidan | they intersect |
| 21:14.06 | Cidan | l2read map |
| 21:14.10 | Shirik | it totally says they are the same road |
| 21:14.12 | zenzelezz | "Speak before you talk" |
| 21:14.13 | Shirik | 7 is chain bridge road |
| 21:14.17 | Shirik | and I KNOW that 123 is chain bridge road |
| 21:14.18 | zenzelezz | good advice on vent tonight |
| 21:14.30 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:14.31 | Shirik | never mind |
| 21:14.51 | Shirik | why the hell would you put the "7" ON TOP of the intersection |
| 21:14.53 | Shirik | who made that map |
| 21:14.57 | Cidan | zoom out/in |
| 21:14.58 | Cidan | kthx |
| 21:15.25 | Shirik | trying to think of the easiest way to get there though |
| 21:15.34 | Shirik | 66 to 495 maybe but that's going to be so packed at this time of day |
| 21:15.41 | Shirik | so I could go straight down 123 |
| 21:15.42 | Cidan | Yes it will |
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| 21:17.11 | Shirik | well I'll go take a shower |
| 21:17.15 | Shirik | where did herzogthc go anyway? |
| 21:17.27 | Shirik | I was waiting for him to come back to answer his question >.> |
| 21:17.34 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:17.38 | Cidan | he's at work |
| 21:17.41 | Cidan | he comes at goes |
| 21:17.47 | Cidan | I suppose I'll go shower too |
| 21:17.52 | Cidan | I live literally, right down 7 |
| 21:17.54 | Cidan | towards DC |
| 21:22.27 | Kaso | Does anyone know how Razuvious is like at level 70? |
| 21:23.06 | bleeter | 'hah, I think I just broke Wine's bugzilla |
| 21:35.10 | Rallion | boo, Bioshock isn't released on Steam until after I have to go to work tomorrow. |
| 21:36.02 | Cairenn | probably just as well, otherwise you might not make it in ;) |
| 21:36.12 | Thunder_Child | heh, i know that one |
| 21:36.46 | Thunder_Child | but mine was with newest CnC game |
| 21:36.51 | Cidan | waiting so I can try the demo before I can get bioshock |
| 21:38.06 | Rallion | Cair, you have a point. |
| 21:38.24 | Rallion | I'd wait for the demo if I wasn't sure this computer could handle it |
| 21:38.50 | Cidan | pretty sure that won't be an issue, just want to make sure the game is of quality |
| 21:39.34 | Rallion | the reviews it's been getting are just crazy |
| 21:39.39 | Rallion | I mean....crazy |
| 21:41.08 | Rallion | I'm not expecting it to be the best game ever, but it's on track to be the best reviewed game ever. |
| 21:43.50 | herzogthc | man |
| 21:43.55 | herzogthc | the title of my putty windows all jacked up |
| 21:44.33 | herzogthc | I typed /list once on freenode, can't believe it didn't spam me off, and it jackd up my title bar on putty lol |
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| 21:47.34 | Shirik | herzogthc: about your PHP use |
| 21:47.45 | Shirik | you're connecting to a database? with what interface? |
| 21:48.36 | herzogthc | Shirik: depends |
| 21:48.47 | herzogthc | sometimes I just use the mysql command line clinet |
| 21:48.59 | herzogthc | I almost always use mysql |
| 21:49.03 | herzogthc | which is because of work, not voluntarily |
| 21:49.13 | herzogthc | PostGRES would be chosen in at least a handful of situations where mysql was otherwise |
| 21:49.21 | herzogthc | I very seldom use PMA. |
| 21:49.25 | Shirik | so... you were using regexes for the queries though? |
| 21:49.41 | herzogthc | mind if I take this up in pm? |
| 21:49.44 | Shirik | go ahead |
| 21:50.01 | herzogthc | oh i need to register lol |
| 21:50.05 | herzogthc | i should prob do that |
| 21:50.07 | Shirik | tsk tsk |
| 21:50.09 | herzogthc | lemme get home and we'll pick this conversation up |
| 21:50.17 | Shirik | well I'l probably leaving soon fyi |
| 21:50.20 | herzogthc | be back in like 30-ish |
| 21:50.24 | herzogthc | i'll catch you later then |
| 21:50.28 | Cairenn | later all |
| 21:50.30 | Shirik | Cidan and I have to go out :P |
| 21:50.32 | Shirik | take care Car |
| 21:50.35 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk |
| 21:50.36 | herzogthc | i'll be back in like 30 |
| 21:50.39 | herzogthc | cya in a bit |
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| 21:52.28 | zenzelezz | I fell for the oldest trick in the book, /me receives [link] |
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| 21:56.02 | foxlit | It's bloody ORANGE! :) |
| 21:56.28 | Shirik | not if you changed it to green |
| 21:56.44 | Cidan | ? |
| 21:56.51 | Shirik | woot, |Jelly| and I look exactly the same |
| 21:56.54 | Shirik | Cidan: MSN! |
| 21:57.04 | |Jelly| | Cept I'm better. |
| 21:57.09 | cog|work | Shirik: i have no idia what you meant by that >< |
| 21:57.15 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1133906107&pageNo=1&sid=1#13 |
| 21:57.36 | Shirik | he's being hostile towards you is he not? |
| 21:57.51 | cog|work | but i didn't help him... |
| 21:57.58 | Shirik | exactly |
| 21:58.03 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:58.06 | Shirik | oh well, details |
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| 21:59.21 | Shirik | on the same note, I never said helped the person in question |
| 21:59.29 | Shirik | I merely said "people whom give help |
| 21:59.30 | |Jelly| | LUA |
| 21:59.33 | Shirik | I hate you |
| 21:59.48 | |Jelly| | I was trying to get it to correct me so I could copy it. |
| 22:00.14 | Shirik | you can copy that if you want |
| 22:03.03 | cog|work | can mages conjure food/water during combat |
| 22:03.06 | cog|work | ? |
| 22:03.24 | Shirik | dunno |
| 22:03.29 | Shirik | but I just answered the question |
| 22:03.29 | [dRaCo] | 99% affirmative |
| 22:03.35 | Shirik | unfortunately you beat me |
| 22:03.50 | bleeter | cog|work: yup |
| 22:04.07 | cog|work | ty |
| 22:04.29 | bleeter | and the mana gems ;) |
| 22:07.00 | cog|work | :( |
| 22:07.26 | cog|work | Guild i've been in for over 2 years is going to the dogs.... |
| 22:07.43 | cog|work | Sure we've got two kara groups, but I'm not sure I want to associate with people named Igotafart |
| 22:08.05 | Shirik | can I use prayer of fort/spirit during arena prep and it won't cost reagents? |
| 22:08.08 | Shirik | or will it cost me? |
| 22:10.27 | Cidan | well |
| 22:10.31 | Cidan | getting ready to go |
| 22:10.37 | Cidan | Shirik, how long is your drive? |
| 22:10.39 | Cidan | w/o traffic? |
| 22:10.49 | Shirik | 36 min, I'm probably about to leave |
| 22:10.54 | Cidan | yeah, def |
| 22:10.55 | Saint-N | http://reviews.cnet.com/peripherals/plextor-px-hdtv500u-mini/4505-3132_7-32412686.html |
| 22:10.58 | Cidan | traffic will not be kind |
| 22:10.58 | Saint-N | thats kinna neat |
| 22:10.59 | Shirik | most of that 36 min though is back roads |
| 22:11.04 | Saint-N | wonder how well it works |
| 22:11.06 | Shirik | probably about 10 minutes when I get to civilization |
| 22:11.10 | Shirik | so for the most part I don't have to worry about it |
| 22:11.16 | Shirik | but I'm abou to leave |
| 22:14.37 | Cidan|food | bai |
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| 22:30.35 | Kaydeethree | ok, this is screwed up... I get an email from someone I don't know that simply contains a .pdf with spam in it for the first page, then 10 pages of gibberish |
| 22:30.38 | Kaydeethree | what the hell? |
| 22:31.01 | zenzelezz | you opened the PDF? |
| 22:31.32 | Kaydeethree | ya. doubt mass-market spam can break a linux pdf reader |
| 22:32.15 | zenzelezz | just didn't think anyone bothered to check such files in suspicious mail |
| 22:32.25 | Kaydeethree | was curious |
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| 22:34.04 | Kirkburn | Btw, anyone interested in BioShock - http://bioshock.wikia.com/ - help out if you wish! :) |
| 22:35.45 | Thunder_Child | these wiki's are starting to get out of hand.....there needs to be a better way |
| 22:37.22 | Kirkburn | Out of hand? |
| 22:37.49 | Kirkburn | It's like complaining that WoW has too many fansites :P |
| 22:37.58 | Cide | well, it does :P |
| 22:38.03 | Thunder_Child | starting to spring up everywhere...different info, sometimes contradictory info....needs to be a central repository |
| 22:38.07 | Cide | hell, too many addon sites! |
| 22:38.10 | cog|work | I've never been fond of the wiki format, myself |
| 22:38.35 | cog|work | unless you know exactly what you're looking for, it can be very hard to find information |
| 22:41.57 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, that makes no sense to me |
| 22:42.05 | Kirkburn | You want every wiki to be official? |
| 22:42.14 | Thunder_Child | no, i want every wiki to be as one |
| 22:42.38 | Thunder_Child | a central repository of information |
| 22:42.38 | Kirkburn | In a way, that's essentially Wikia |
| 22:42.40 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: every wiki on a single topic you mean? |
| 22:42.49 | cog|work | or every wiki period? |
| 22:42.49 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 22:43.01 | Kirkburn | Wikia can be described as a single massive wiki |
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| 22:43.14 | Thunder_Child | thats why i liked wikipedia...everything was in one place |
| 22:43.36 | Kirkburn | It can't go into absolute detail though |
| 22:43.46 | Thunder_Child | can, different sections of the same thing |
| 22:43.51 | Thunder_Child | wings of a house |
| 22:44.21 | Kirkburn | Hammer, a dismabiguation page for every occurence of a hammer in any game? |
| 22:44.39 | Thunder_Child | different sections, 1 database, 1 search engine |
| 22:44.50 | Kirkburn | Again, that's pretty close to Wikia |
| 22:44.51 | Thunder_Child | or at least a clustered database |
| 22:45.25 | Thunder_Child | cant search every wikia page from one spot |
| 22:45.32 | Thunder_Child | or every wiki thats on the web |
| 22:46.08 | Thunder_Child | and the more places the info is entered the more places it can be wrong, and the less places people are going to edit/chalange the info |
| 22:46.36 | Cide | meh, you can't reasonably expect a central location for everything |
| 22:46.42 | Kirkburn | Not exactly a free market :P |
| 22:46.52 | Cide | that's like enforcing "you can't create a wiki for this - there is one already!" |
| 22:46.56 | Cide | good luck with that on the web |
| 22:47.12 | Thunder_Child | all it was was my opnion |
| 22:47.15 | Thunder_Child | nothing else |
| 22:47.30 | Cide | yeah, well, while it would be nice (in a sense), it's (sadly) impossible |
| 22:47.44 | Thunder_Child | atm |
| 22:47.48 | Cide | but having only one resource would also be scary |
| 22:48.55 | Cide | you wouldn't be able to compare it to other sources, make sure it's correct, etc., and it'd also be more vulnerable to attacks |
| 22:49.11 | Cide | s/to attacks// |
| 22:49.24 | Thunder_Child | it's a wiki...all the sources come to it |
| 22:50.08 | Thunder_Child | and as far as vulnerability..true, but it can also be easier to secure when everything is in one place |
| 22:51.01 | Cide | are you saying it's easier to take down every wiki site in existence than one single all-in-all wiki site? I'd disagree :) |
| 22:52.00 | Cide | haha, yep, cog|work |
| 22:52.11 | Cide | maybe we should just stop! |
| 22:52.33 | cladhaire | glad i was afk :P |
| 22:53.08 | Thunder_Child | i dunno...1 wiki site built like fort knox or a bunch of them bult like your local bank |
| 22:55.12 | zenzelezz | gathering everything in one source only means making it a target |
| 22:56.27 | cladhaire | there has to be a minority voice, and that wouldn't ever be allowed to exist in a wiki |
| 22:56.30 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 22:56.47 | Thunder_Child | eh?..why not? |
| 22:57.01 | cladhaire | the majority wouldn't allow it |
| 22:57.23 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt allow what? |
| 22:57.30 | cog|work | a minority voice |
| 22:57.31 | cladhaire | Wouldn't allow the data to exist on the primary page |
| 22:57.45 | cladhaire | There's be constant in-fighting and things would just be completely and utterly muddled |
| 22:57.45 | cog|work | Democracy is tyrany of the majority |
| 22:57.57 | cladhaire | and if someone can't get "enough" support, their voice will never be heard |
| 22:58.00 | cladhaire | except on the discussion page |
| 22:58.23 | Thunder_Child | except i thought we were talking about fact, not opnions |
| 22:58.32 | Thunder_Child | s/fact/facts/ |
| 22:58.36 | cog|work | people disagree on facts |
| 22:58.41 | cog|work | that's why there are courts |
| 22:58.49 | cladhaire | :P |
| 22:58.51 | Cide | haha, I like that |
| 22:59.01 | cladhaire | facts are opinions that the majority have accepted |
| 22:59.14 | cladhaire | perception is reality for most people |
| 22:59.21 | cladhaire | regardless of whether you agree or not :P |
| 23:00.52 | Thunder_Child | it could be done, it just hasent been done yet |
| 23:00.59 | Thunder_Child | and i'm to lazy to do it |
| 23:01.08 | Thunder_Child | if anyone was going to give me a smartass remark |
| 23:01.43 | cladhaire | Okay... |
| 23:02.09 | Thunder_Child | well thats the kinda smartass remark i would have made |
| 23:02.25 | cladhaire | I have no idea what you're saying now |
| 23:02.28 | cladhaire | are we arguing? |
| 23:02.39 | Thunder_Child | no, i was explaining |
| 23:03.05 | cladhaire | I missed the entire explanation then |
| 23:03.07 | cladhaire | =/ |
| 23:03.11 | mikma | ooooh fiiiiigh! |
| 23:03.36 | Thunder_Child | "(16:02:35) (Thunder_Child) well thats the kinda smartass remark i would have made" |
| 23:03.51 | cladhaire | _what is_? |
| 23:05.02 | Thunder_Child | how to do make a "/" not be a command |
| 23:05.50 | Thunder_Child | and nvm cladhaire, if i have to walk you through it, it isnt that important |
| 23:06.04 | cladhaire | I just apparently missed someone |
| 23:06.11 | Thunder_Child | and thats what i was gonna do...i just wanted to / it |
| 23:06.17 | cladhaire | no one ever mentioned / not being a command |
| 23:06.42 | Thunder_Child | well i have seen people type nothing but "/cry" |
| 23:06.46 | Thunder_Child | etc. |
| 23:06.52 | Thunder_Child | w/o the "" ofc |
| 23:07.21 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.25 | cog|work | /say |
| 23:07.40 | Thunder_Child | yea...i cant do that |
| 23:07.47 | cog|work | type /say |
| 23:07.54 | cog|work | /bonk |
| 23:07.57 | Thunder_Child | that didnt do anyting at all |
| 23:07.59 | Thunder_Child | anything* |
| 23:08.06 | cog|work | /say /whatever |
| 23:08.15 | Thunder_Child | /whatever |
| 23:08.17 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 23:08.24 | Thunder_Child | there has got to be a better way |
| 23:08.29 | Thunder_Child | thanks though |
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| 23:34.23 | Garoun|Loupana | interesting that someone actually made the mod I had created on paper pre-bc but never actually made :P |
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| 23:36.43 | [dRaCo] | being? |
| 23:37.40 | Garoun|Loupana | Arathi Basin Helper |
| 23:38.23 | Garoun|Loupana | just neat to see someone came up with almost the exact setup I had thought of hehe |
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| 23:39.50 | cladhaire | link? |
| 23:40.14 | Garoun|Loupana | https://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/8569 |
| 23:40.17 | cladhaire | thanks |
| 23:40.31 | N00bZXI | I can't connect to curse for some reason? |
| 23:41.08 | youpansie | same here |
| 23:41.19 | cladhaire | remove the s from https |
| 23:41.31 | Garoun|Loupana | oh sorry, misstype |
| 23:41.45 | Garoun|Loupana | been doing jsp pages on our site at work all day :/ |
| 23:42.44 | Garoun|Loupana | I'll have to go through my logs and see if I can find the writeup again |
| 23:43.44 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* @ jsp pages |
| 23:45.05 | Garoun|Loupana | it's a test case :P |
| 23:45.44 | Thunder_Child | no, the fact that you typed JavaServer Pages Pages |
| 23:46.01 | Garoun|Loupana | the same page was already done in php and the wonderfully crappy 'packaged' support |
| 23:46.07 | Garoun|Loupana | oh, bah |
| 23:46.17 | Garoun|Loupana | go go redundancy |
| 23:46.35 | Garoun|Loupana | the fact that it took me that long to catch what you were saying should hint at how tired I am right now :P |
| 23:46.45 | Thunder_Child | sleep ftw |
| 23:47.01 | Garoun|Loupana | can't :( raid leader and have prince/ill to finish off tonight |
| 23:47.28 | [dRaCo] | /follow ftw |
| 23:47.48 | Garoun|Loupana | that works if you aren't the one people expect to hear talking on vent :P |
| 23:48.30 | [dRaCo] | uhm. guess you've gotta record some basic sentences and make your vent replay them randomly |
| 23:48.51 | [dRaCo] | like "damn you, <x>, why cant you do what I told you to like 1000 times now?!" |
| 23:49.14 | Garoun|Loupana | and the oh so well designed Prince encounter always gives me the joy of yelling at melee that died to an enfeeble+nova |
| 23:49.54 | Garoun|Loupana | or our paly on ill that forgets to turn on Concentration aura |
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| 23:51.29 | N00bZXI | prince ftl |
| 23:52.06 | Garoun|Loupana | but it's all good, I only have to make it through the night and then I'm on wow leave for a few days... Bioshock mmm |
| 23:52.16 | Thunder_Child | i love prince |
| 23:52.32 | Thunder_Child | err..well fighting him anyways |
| 23:52.47 | N00bZXI | heh before guild xfer'd (and I started playing my priest instead) |
| 23:52.51 | N00bZXI | we were stuck on him for 2 weks |
| 23:52.51 | Garoun|Loupana | It's not prince everyone hates... it's those things that are not to be spoken of |
| 23:52.59 | N00bZXI | weeks |
| 23:53.00 | Thunder_Child | infernals? |
| 23:53.03 | Garoun|Loupana | shh |
| 23:53.09 | Thunder_Child | i love them to |
| 23:53.31 | N00bZXI | this was back when you could stand in the door and no infernals came (we didn't know it was an exploit) |
| 23:53.32 | Thunder_Child | randomness makes for more interesting fights and fights that are never the same |
| 23:54.33 | Garoun|Loupana | I dunno that fight is just frustrating, when or lose is ALWAYS based on where the infernals fall |
| 23:55.20 | N00bZXI | the only random things with prince fight if I remember correctly are infernals, who gets enfeeble, and whether he oneshots the tank in phase2 |
| 23:55.47 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm a druid tank, I don't get 1 shot in p2 :) |
| 23:55.59 | N00bZXI | Neither does our tank anymore |
| 23:56.07 | Garoun|Loupana | the infernals are the only random part of the fight |
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| 23:56.18 | N00bZXI | and even then |
| 23:56.19 | Garoun|Loupana | enfeeble is only limited by shadow resist |
| 23:56.20 | N00bZXI | you just move away |
| 23:56.46 | Garoun|Loupana | that's fine until you get crap spawns like we seem to always do :) |
| 23:56.57 | N00bZXI | You can see where they're gonna land with camera zoomed out, right? |
| 23:57.44 | Garoun|Loupana | our spotter does, but you can't do anything about it dropping in what 'seems' a safe spot because it's a ways away, and then you get completely blocked in when they start dropping on you |
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| 23:59.18 | Garoun|Loupana | his infernals also tend to leave me alone tanking until mid way through phase 2 |
| 23:59.54 | Garoun|Loupana | it's an ok fight, just hate the infernals is all :) |
