| 00:00.39 | Orclev | got it working, I was referencing the wrong tooltip for scanning. Setting one tooltip, then scanning a completely different one. It does display as Soulbound when you use SetBagItem as opposed to SetHyperlink |
| 00:03.38 | Valaron|Work | Ook! Time to go home! 3-Day weekend! Time for drinks! |
| 00:04.33 | Orclev | ok, thanks everyone for the help |
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| 00:20.12 | AnduinLothar | is it working? |
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| 00:35.17 | AnduinLothar | SendAddonMessage was 2.0, right? |
| 00:36.29 | AnduinLothar | that can't be right. |
| 00:36.41 | Kaydeethree | 1.12 |
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| 01:53.58 | Thunder_Child | wow, slow day |
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| 02:00.07 | Rallion | heh and it makes me want to play through the game again...I gotta look up who wrote this music |
| 02:07.38 | Shirik | ERROR #131 (0x85100083) File Corrupt |
| 02:07.38 | Shirik | qq |
| 02:08.06 | Shirik | File = Sound\Ambience\WMOAmbience\TempestKeepGeneral.wav |
| 02:08.06 | Shirik | Cached Read = Decompression failed |
| 02:08.08 | Shirik | I did not hax! |
| 02:25.25 | Rallion | a gamma ray flipped a bit! |
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| 02:43.39 | Thunder_Child | so...so...hot.... |
| 02:44.08 | Shirik | =( |
| 02:44.12 | Kaydeethree | it's a balmy 24c outside right now... don't think it broke 28 today. a nice change from the near-40s we've been getting |
| 02:44.24 | art3mis | yeah its about 23 here |
| 02:44.42 | art3mis | i hope it keeps cool likethis for labour day |
| 02:44.48 | Kaydeethree | no kidding |
| 02:44.55 | art3mis | thats when my neighborhood ahs the west indies festival/parade |
| 02:45.01 | art3mis | mmmmmmmm curried goat |
| 02:45.03 | Thunder_Child | it was about 32c here |
| 02:45.05 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 02:45.17 | Thunder_Child | i prefer 21 |
| 02:45.20 | art3mis | and scantily clad females all up and down eastern parkway |
| 02:45.30 | art3mis | my ideal temp is between 16-18 |
| 02:45.39 | art3mis | sunny with a slight breeze |
| 02:45.52 | art3mis | without the sun it jumps to 19-22 |
| 02:46.14 | art3mis | of course im talking without 90+% humidity |
| 02:46.20 | art3mis | friggin atlantic |
| 02:46.35 | Thunder_Child | 0 humidity here..it's all heat |
| 02:47.06 | Kaydeethree | bah. 24c, 100% humidity |
| 02:47.07 | Thunder_Child | or...48% |
| 02:47.10 | Tem|AFK | 100% humidity |
| 02:47.11 | Thunder_Child | go figure |
| 02:47.22 | Tem|AFK | 97 F |
| 02:47.29 | Tem|AFK | or |
| 02:47.35 | Tem|AFK | more acurately, |
| 02:47.37 | Tem|AFK | FUCKING HOT |
| 02:47.48 | Thunder_Child | do you have ac? |
| 02:47.53 | Tem|AFK | thank god |
| 02:47.58 | Thunder_Child | i dont |
| 02:48.00 | art3mis | new york is rarely "just heat" |
| 02:48.04 | art3mis | today was nice though |
| 02:50.01 | Rallion | the weather-talk is reminding me that i have a nightmare of a wedding to go to on sunday, bah |
| 02:50.09 | art3mis | shirik: hows conspiracy coming? |
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| 02:50.24 | Thunder_Child | shhh..it's a secret |
| 02:50.37 | art3mis | that cant be that would be conspiratorial! |
| 02:50.41 | art3mis | hey wait........... |
| 02:51.31 | Rallion | the fact that I'm not asleep right now is absolute madness |
| 02:51.38 | Rallion | even if it isn't even 11 yet |
| 02:51.50 | art3mis | did you pee the bed again? |
| 02:51.58 | Rallion | oh, so clever. so very clever. |
| 02:52.10 | art3mis | i know! |
| 02:54.12 | Rallion | 8 hours until I begin what may (or may not) be my last time unloading a truck at a retail location. |
| 02:54.36 | art3mis | ? |
| 02:55.09 | Rallion | I've spent the last year at two retail jobs, at both my job included but was not limited to dealing with incoming stock. |
| 02:55.20 | Rallion | Tomorrow may be the last day ever doing that. |
| 02:55.39 | Rallion | That dream is my sustenance. |
| 02:56.39 | Thunder_Child | eat hearty then |
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| 02:59.23 | art3mis | http://www.thenewbestsite.com/showVideo.php?vidId=427 |
| 03:01.52 | Rallion | ...oh my god. |
| 03:02.06 | Kaydeethree | curse the blizzard tracker... give me some freaking peers so I can download the damn ptr patch |
| 03:02.32 | Rallion | I can not imagine putting a nail into my leg. no. no. |
| 03:02.36 | Rallion | no. |
| 03:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol wow @ http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/scroll/ |
| 03:03.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Links to /account/resurrect-a-friend.html |
| 03:04.13 | Kaydeethree | meh. firefox won't render it for me |
| 03:04.18 | Kaydeethree | there's an error in the html |
| 03:04.33 | Kaydeethree | height"743"> |
| 03:06.19 | Rallion | XBox 360 controllers are compatible with PCs, right? |
| 03:06.24 | Kaydeethree | yup |
| 03:06.34 | Rallion | USB? |
| 03:06.38 | Kaydeethree | indeed |
| 03:06.44 | Rallion | I may get one |
| 03:06.47 | Rallion | just for that |
| 03:07.01 | Rallion | and because I plan to get a 360 eventually |
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| 03:24.11 | Kaydeethree | new PTR diffs are up (zomg 2 in 1 day!) current build: 7195. http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
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| 03:34.48 | Thunder_Child | export that as an html and post it somewhere |
| 03:38.45 | Shirik | !ap 1503 |
| 03:38.46 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1503 is, 2v2: 265, 3v3: 303, 5v5: 379 |
| 03:38.59 | Shirik | !ap 1475 |
| 03:38.59 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1475 is, 2v2: 256, 3v3: 293, 5v5: 366 |
| 03:39.26 | Thunder_Child | is that taking into account the arena point change? |
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| 03:44.15 | Guillotine | vista and IRC do not seem to mix :( |
| 03:44.37 | Guillotine | vista and X-chat I should say. It often crashes when I try to restore xchat |
| 03:44.59 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371548970&postId=13713162513&sid=1#4 <-- I couldn't resist |
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| 03:53.20 | Shirik | Guillotine: I have no problem with nbs-irc over mirc :P |
| 03:53.41 | Guillotine | Shirik: I'll have to check that one out :) ty |
| 03:53.49 | Shirik | art3mis: eh |
| 03:53.50 | Shirik | ok |
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| 04:07.22 | Shirik | cogwheel: ping |
| 04:08.31 | cogwheel | pong |
| 04:11.06 | cogwheel | shirik? |
| 04:11.21 | Shirik | oh sorry |
| 04:11.32 | Shirik | Hey you seem to know a bit about visual studio |
| 04:11.44 | Shirik | is it possible to write a file to help it "learn" a language like Lua? |
| 04:11.49 | Shirik | so it highlightsi t? |
| 04:12.37 | Rallion | i don't think so |
| 04:12.44 | cogwheel | no idea |
| 04:13.18 | Rallion | It has actual seperate programs for different languages |
| 04:13.58 | Shirik | =( |
| 04:20.11 | Corrodias | oh, i don't get it. i mined a mithril deposit not on my cartographer map and it didn't... |
| 04:20.18 | Corrodias | maybe there's gold in this spot on the map already. i'm not showing that. |
| 04:20.29 | Corrodias | ah, yep |
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| 04:30.47 | Shirik | I will have to write a Lua plugin for Visual Studio somehow |
| 04:30.52 | Shirik | if that means writing a full windows program, so be it |
| 04:43.46 | Guillotine | shirik: why? whats wrong with something like scite? |
| 04:44.12 | Shirik | just cause :P |
| 04:44.18 | Shirik | then I don't have to have five million dev environments |
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| 07:30.39 | Thunder_Child | interesting camera if anyone is interested http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ifa2007/casio-exilim-first-360-view-295617.php |
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| 07:44.00 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/tenori_on/tenori+on-crazy-led-digital-instrument-set-for-september-launch-295444.php |
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| 08:22.31 | Thunder_Child | *snicker* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g |
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| 09:29.00 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter, suggestion for the UI suggestions thread: OfficerChatUsable() |
| 09:29.05 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 09:36.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 09:36.34 | sag_ich_nicht | about that news by Cidan |
| 09:37.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i ask very very nicely: add OPTIONAL support for SimpleMediaLib for that. |
| 09:37.41 | sag_ich_nicht | please. |
| 09:44.42 | Industrial | what news |
| 09:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | www.conspiracy-ui.com :P |
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| 09:52.29 | nevcairiel | man, another PTR update |
| 09:52.33 | nevcairiel | they are really going at it now |
| 09:56.55 | nevcairiel | hrm, is that just me, or did surroung sound support really improve in 2.2 ? it sounds .. different .. better |
| 09:57.19 | Thunder_Child | to me it sounds...still muted |
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| 09:57.42 | Thunder_Child | but sure, the silence got more quiet |
| 09:58.05 | nevcairiel | you really miss alot of ambience without sound :o |
| 09:58.36 | Thunder_Child | dont need ambience to play...and i dont play to get sucked in to the "universe" |
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| 10:13.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | does any1 see how this function could ever be an endless while loop ? http://wowi.pastey.net/73216 |
| 10:13.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | atleast my wow freezes on execution |
| 10:16.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | BrB if my pc freezes again :P |
| 10:16.50 | sag_ich_nicht | |FF|Im2good4u you should get a dual core CPU :P |
| 10:16.58 | krka | what if reset is really big? |
| 10:17.17 | krka | use division instead |
| 10:17.49 | sag_ich_nicht | krka: not endless but takes so long to execute that it causes a disconnect? |
| 10:18.02 | krka | yes |
| 10:18.03 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |FF|Im2good4u extract without k. |
| 10:18.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe but it was more a complete freeze of my pc |
| 10:18.18 | sag_ich_nicht | ...true enough |
| 10:18.18 | krka | are you sure it's that function? |
| 10:18.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes im 100% sure :P |
| 10:18.44 | sag_ich_nicht | |FF|Im2good4u yeah, WoW uses 100% CPU if you give it something that executes a lot |
| 10:19.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | but division might indeed be much better idea :P |
| 10:19.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | BrB going to try again |
| 10:19.52 | krka | what if reset is 1e300 |
| 10:19.58 | krka | that would be very close to an infinite loop |
| 10:20.02 | krka | or... |
| 10:20.09 | krka | what if reset == inf |
| 10:20.26 | krka | caused by some division by zero earlier in the code |
| 10:21.11 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes i tihnk that was the problem during testing i had set the reset verry high becase if reset is timed out my code automagicly remvoes the entry |
| 10:21.37 | |FF|Im2good4u | now iv reduced it and it works fine so that was the problem |
| 10:21.55 | krka | 1) use friggin division. 2) check for reset == inf |
| 10:22.07 | sag_ich_nicht | also check for reset=nil |
| 10:22.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:22.10 | sag_ich_nicht | *== |
| 10:22.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | reset can never be nil :P becase thne my table is removed :P |
| 10:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | still check. :P |
| 10:22.44 | krka | sag_ich_nicht: nah, that's not so bad - that will cause an error to be thrown |
| 10:22.51 | sag_ich_nicht | krka: yeah. i ha |
| 10:23.04 | sag_ich_nicht | *i already have enough errors that are pointless to ignore/work around in my UI |
| 10:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 10:23.21 | krka | heh |
| 10:23.42 | nevcairiel | l2code and fix them |
| 10:23.43 | nevcairiel | : |
| 10:23.45 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:24.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i can code |
| 10:24.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm just a really lazy bastard |
| 10:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | unwilling to learn lua beyond basics and the same is true for the blizz API |
| 10:25.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (and not willing to spend that much time on it) |
| 10:26.25 | Industrial | its easy tbh |
| 10:26.28 | Industrial | like playing :P |
| 10:27.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 10:27.10 | sag_ich_nicht | lazy sag_ich_nicht is lazy :O |
| 10:30.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | i made divisions but now i get something like 8,8684 days ( http://wowi.pastey.net/73218 ) so how do i remove the numbers behind the ',' ? |
| 10:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 10:31.19 | sag_ich_nicht | what was the function called |
| 10:31.26 | sag_ich_nicht | floor it |
| 10:31.33 | sag_ich_nicht | or round it :P |
| 10:31.35 | sag_ich_nicht | depends what you want |
| 10:31.42 | sag_ich_nicht | flooring is faster, but maybe not what you want |
| 10:31.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and i think you mean . not , |
| 10:32.07 | Industrial | http://wowi.pastey.net/73219-ogt5:73218-3pii |
| 10:32.08 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:34.59 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 10:35.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i just noticed i'm exalted with sha'tar, i could upgrade my healequip |
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| 14:32.24 | Lunessa | ... so deathly silent |
| 14:35.38 | [Liquidor] | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hwf25UQGvIU |
| 14:41.35 | Lunessa | evil |
| 14:42.10 | Punkie` | are you supposed to be american to find that funny? |
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| 14:52.22 | Industrial | I guess you are supposed to be a big fat black dude with rasta's and fake teeth |
| 14:52.28 | Industrial | to find that funny |
| 14:52.45 | Industrial | go video blogging! |
| 14:52.49 | Industrial | *cough* |
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| 15:14.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ha |
| 15:14.59 | sag_ich_nicht | victory |
| 15:15.42 | sag_ich_nicht | my bracers are now the best in game for retribution paladins except for 1 drop from hyjal :O |
| 15:22.18 | Cidan | So their not the best then. |
| 15:22.31 | Cidan | You still only have, number 2. |
| 15:22.42 | Cidan | And number 2 is just the first loser. |
| 15:24.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan well, the ones from hyjal are for warriors, actually |
| 15:24.06 | sag_ich_nicht | no mana, no spelldmg |
| 15:24.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so in a way, they are already the best :P |
| 15:24.25 | Cidan | So make up your mind then |
| 15:25.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if i'd get them NOW, i wouldn't use them. if i'd get them THEN, when i have the other gear from the way there, i'd use them because i'd have a ton more mana :P |
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| 15:26.21 | Cidan | Cairenn, i herd u leik mudkipz? |
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| 15:27.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan |
| 15:27.30 | Cidan | shh |
| 15:27.33 | Cidan | talking to the hot chick |
| 15:27.34 | Cidan | not you |
| 15:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | cidan |
| 15:28.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.conspiracy-ui.com/node/2#comments |
| 15:28.15 | sag_ich_nicht | read that |
| 15:28.16 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 15:28.56 | Cairenn | Cidan: unh, not really |
| 15:29.43 | Cairenn | and good morning :) |
| 15:29.57 | Cidan | Mornin' :P |
| 15:30.01 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht, er, wut? |
| 15:30.52 | sag_ich_nicht | read my comment :P |
| 15:31.28 | Cidan | Yes but what is that? |
| 15:31.46 | sag_ich_nicht | erms |
| 15:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry |
| 15:31.48 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid |
| 15:31.49 | sag_ich_nicht | me |
| 15:32.14 | sag_ich_nicht | read the comment again now :P |
| 15:32.42 | Cidan | no |
| 15:32.47 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SharedMediaLib :P |
| 15:32.49 | Cidan | No ace addon support in any way |
| 15:33.13 | Cidan | I can't anyways, I use a custom font system for dynamic changes on the fly with themes |
| 15:33.23 | sag_ich_nicht | no read again what the addon is for |
| 15:33.26 | Cidan | So the answer is no. |
| 15:33.28 | sag_ich_nicht | it's just for getting the files |
| 15:33.41 | sag_ich_nicht | read what it's for first :P |
| 15:33.53 | Cidan | No |
| 15:33.54 | Cidan | Ace |
| 15:33.56 | Cidan | Code |
| 15:33.56 | Kalroth | Who'd want to use Ace libraries anyways :( |
| 15:33.59 | Cidan | period |
| 15:34.40 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan is there a reason for that especially considering that it's not even required to be in the addon? |
| 15:35.09 | sag_ich_nicht | or is this just pure idiotic nazi-ism causing me to have to load 2 MB of fontsets TWICE into WoW? |
| 15:35.13 | Cidan | We do not support Ace addons in any way. In fact, we don't support any addons. |
| 15:36.05 | sag_ich_nicht | which is why i said optional. to get more fonts in. read what the damn library is for for fucks sake, you just make a CALL to it to get MORE fonts, it doesn't even touch your damn addon or provide any code functionality for it |
| 15:36.34 | Cidan | No, I'm going to use fonts in a very specific way. |
| 15:36.38 | Cairenn | temper temper |
| 15:36.42 | Cidan | Move on. |
| 15:36.53 | Kalroth | Cairenn is being a meanie :( |
| 15:36.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan so you are going to use them in such a way that you can not use a simple .ttf file provided? |
| 15:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | because i think now you are lying |
| 15:37.28 | Cidan | I don't really care what you think, I've given you my decision. |
| 15:37.44 | Cidan | Now move on. |
| 15:37.50 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, i can live with that, i just want to know the reason why, "a very specific way" is quite vague :P |
| 15:43.27 | Lunessa | Going to be a heart-ache tonight! |
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| 16:07.16 | amro | Industrial: ping |
| 16:07.41 | Kalroth | You have to give him a wedgie |
| 16:07.50 | amro | ~wedgie Industrial |
| 16:07.51 | purl | ACTION hangs Industrial from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 16:07.59 | Industrial | aaaaargh |
| 16:08.02 | Industrial | amro: oh hi |
| 16:12.39 | Punkie` | amro + Industrial = best friends :o |
| 16:23.29 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/bf4e61340c1dc5f29d54c210bd771332.jpg |
| 16:23.33 | Industrial | amro: ^ |
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| 16:24.52 | Drew | When writing a grid-like addon, is there an easy way to handle players joining/leaving/moving groups in combat? Or do you need to write a lot of extra code to handle this? |
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| 16:30.35 | Lunessa | Drew: I don't have an answer for your question, but why not look at Grid/Pitbull, Perfect Raid, X-Perl and see how they handle it? |
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| 16:35.03 | Cidan | grrr |
| 16:35.16 | Cidan | how do I make the border of a frame draw "outwards" and not inward? |
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| 17:04.02 | Cidan | slow day |
| 17:04.03 | Cidan | :( |
| 17:04.07 | Cidan | not many people talking |
| 17:04.33 | Cidan | I dig that UI, minimal |
| 17:05.04 | Cidan | er, talking to Industrial, :P |
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| 17:06.27 | MoonWolf | Cidan, its the only thing idu does |
| 17:06.27 | MoonWolf | minimal interfaces and low level characters. |
| 17:06.27 | Cidan | hah |
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| 17:21.57 | Chaotic_D | Hrm... I'm having trouble trying to fit in class-specific quest steps into Joana's guide... I just don't know how to figure out the most efficient order of doing them. |
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| 17:24.51 | Polarina | Chaotic_D: Joana's Guide? Where you got it? |
| 17:26.08 | Chaotic_D | uh... and remember kids, piracy is bad. |
| 17:26.21 | Chaotic_D | support the economy, especially the little guy! |
| 17:26.35 | Polarina | ? |
| 17:26.55 | Chaotic_D | it's a guide you're only supposed to be able to aquire by purchasing it directly from Joana/Mancow. |
| 17:27.05 | Polarina | It's so expensive! |
| 17:27.21 | Chaotic_D | ok, so you do know what I'm talking about. why did you ask where I got it? |
| 17:27.41 | Polarina | Chaotic_D: I never thought you had so much money.. |
| 17:28.05 | Chaotic_D | $35 is "so much money"? |
| 17:28.09 | Polarina | Yes! |
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| 17:28.15 | Kaydeethree | !! |
| 17:28.24 | Polarina | Plus, I prefer not to take the risks of getting scammed. |
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| 17:29.38 | Chaotic_D | for some reason I was under the impression that Brain Kopp's guide had mistakes and was really rough, but now I can't remember anything specific. |
| 17:29.59 | Chaotic_D | then again I noticed Joana's Horde guide didn't tell you to get the Orgrimar flightpath. |
| 17:31.40 | Cidan | You could always just... play the game. |
| 17:31.43 | Chaotic_D | it's still a lot of useful information. |
| 17:31.44 | Cidan | And just, have fun. |
| 17:31.50 | Chaotic_D | -_-; |
| 17:32.03 | Polarina | :) |
| 17:32.09 | Chaotic_D | why THANK YOU, Cidan! You're such a helpful young man! |
| 17:32.19 | Cidan | It's true |
| 17:32.25 | Cidan | Play the game for what it is and just have fun |
| 17:32.31 | Cidan | Make friends playing, and go at it. |
| 17:32.33 | Polarina | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:33.01 | Chaotic_D | eh. I did play it without a guide before. got my shaman to level 46. never made any friends. |
| 17:33.12 | Cidan | If you get soooo bored leveling and you just want to rush rush rush to the end game; then the game is likely not for you. |
| 17:33.14 | dylanm_ | I found it useful when I was a lowb and all of my friends were in Kara... you have to admit that the early grind is pretty boring. |
| 17:33.41 | Cidan | Once you hit that 70 mark, it gets boring all over again |
| 17:33.50 | Chaotic_D | It sure sounds like it. |
| 17:34.31 | dylanm_ | I guess I'm also a fan of leveling fast because the new content seems much, much better in terms of what you have to do, the rewards involved, how interesting it is, etc. |
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| 17:40.10 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if it's worth trying to code my own version of an addon like Tekkub's TourGuide. While I like some of the way it's setup, there's other parts I don't like. (like the larger menu on the left side taking up so much room even though it only has like 3 menu items. or the fact that it only displays 1 step at a time, when sometimes you are actively doing 2 or 3 quests at the same time) |
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| 17:48.02 | Chaotic_D | Joana covers the new Blood Elf starting zones, but what's the best point for a non Blood Elf to go to those lands to make use of the more efficient quests? or for an Alliance player to go to the Draeni starting zones. |
| 17:52.42 | Cidan | I think most people who know how to power level don't need a UI |
| 17:52.53 | Cidan | and most people who want to learn never get to the end |
| 17:53.18 | [dRaCo] | yeah, UIs are totally overrated. |
| 17:53.34 | Cidan | a UI to help them power level, :/ |
| 17:54.34 | [dRaCo] | One UI to slave them all. |
| 17:56.17 | Chaotic_D | look, the sequence of quests isn't where I learn how to play efficiently anyways. |
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| 17:58.14 | Chaotic_D | power leveling is partially how well you can play, and whether you get the right quests in the right sequence. but learning how to play doesn't help you get those quests in the right order. learning the order of quests is reinventing the wheel. |
| 18:02.24 | zenzelezz | he was just stating an opinion |
| 18:03.49 | Chaotic_D | hah. "just". :> so was I. |
| 18:07.05 | Chaotic_D | the lore is interesting. I like reading about it. but it's not important for gameplay. |
| 18:10.35 | Chaotic_D | it's strange. I played WC3 and the expansion, and I didn't remember most of the stuff that went on there. I had to read about it on the wiki to remember that Illidan wasn't just an unorthodox outcast after he escaped from prison. |
| 18:11.34 | Chaotic_D | or that the Lich King had gone against the Burning Legion after the battle on Mount Hyjal. (although I'm still not sure exactly what he did to defy them) |
| 18:13.37 | Chaotic_D | so it Illidan dead? I hadn't realized repeatable events in WoW were not part of lore history, like C'thun being defeated. |
| 18:13.48 | Chaotic_D | s/it/is |
| 18:17.55 | dylanm_ | I think the actual death animation leaves it kinda open. |
| 18:18.04 | Cidan | no, he doesn't die |
| 18:18.14 | Cidan | Blizz devs already said he doesn't |
| 18:20.23 | Chaotic_D | ah. I heard there wasn't actually much story around the in-game events, but... I won't see that any time soon. |
| 18:20.57 | Cidan | Sure you will, just level |
| 18:20.57 | Cidan | :D |
| 18:21.59 | Chaotic_D | well I got a 20 Alliance hunter and an almost 10 Horde shaman so far. :S |
| 18:22.12 | Cidan | stick with a single char, and level |
| 18:22.17 | Cidan | it's not that bad, promise. :D |
| 18:22.45 | Chaotic_D | I've done it. it's pretty bad. :) |
| 18:22.56 | bl4q | Alliance sux cox - doesn't matter in which way you play the game *g* |
| 18:23.11 | Chaotic_D | yeah well... |
| 18:23.20 | Chaotic_D | why did I pick alliance?? |
| 18:23.45 | Cidan | Shrug, I love Alliance |
| 18:23.49 | Cidan | I can't play horde. |
| 18:23.53 | Chaotic_D | :> |
| 18:24.17 | Kaydeethree | maybe I can finally stem the tide of "what's a sticky?": http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/50/findstickiesid7.jpg |
| 18:24.44 | Chaotic_D | I have rules for what I can play. no female Tauren. No female orcs without a good reason. No Alliance without a good reason. |
| 18:25.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:25.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awesome, Kaydeethree |
| 18:27.00 | Chaotic_D | well... that's a nice diagram, but it doesn't really cover a full definition of what a sticky is. |
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| 18:27.56 | Chaotic_D | that they're forum threads that are always at the top page, listed before non-stickied threads. |
| 18:28.07 | Chaotic_D | oh, and usually IMPORTANT threads. |
| 18:28.43 | Chaotic_D | and besides, anyone who asks isn't going to look at your picture before they ask anyways. :) |
| 18:28.59 | Kaydeethree | nah. that's for the response to said question |
| 18:30.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I enjoy the "not a sticky" stuff more than I enjoy everything else |
| 18:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | *pointing at a random icon* "Not a sticky" |
| 18:31.37 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 18:32.20 | Garoun|Loupana | are there any soloable mobs that give rep for Orgri'la? |
| 18:33.43 | [dRaCo] | all quests are soloable |
| 18:33.55 | Garoun|Loupana | not all of them |
| 18:33.56 | Kaydeethree | except the prerequisite four 5-mans |
| 18:34.08 | [dRaCo] | almost all |
| 18:34.27 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, I was trying to get to honored without doing those 4 :P |
| 18:34.40 | Garoun|Loupana | and without waiting another couple days doing my dailys |
| 18:34.41 | [dRaCo] | no wai! |
| 18:36.08 | Garoun|Loupana | I mean skyguard you can just grind skettis mobs |
| 18:36.14 | Chaotic_D | wowwiki reports just quests give rep for them. no mobs inherently give rep. |
| 18:36.30 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, that's what I read there also :) but always like to make sure |
| 18:37.30 | Chaotic_D | well... it's been out for like 6 months. I think they would have corrected it by now if it was incomplete info. |
| 18:37.55 | Garoun|Loupana | good point |
| 18:39.00 | Chaotic_D | ah. they have external links to other sites, just like a wiki should. WoWHead says "Reputation with Ogri'la can only be gained via Quests, and there only repeatable quests are the available daily quests. Thus, there is a cap on how much reputation a day a player can gain reputation with Ogri'la, making it an "ungrindable" reputation." |
| 18:39.21 | Kaydeethree | we're usually pretty good about updating information that's wrong |
| 18:39.26 | Kaydeethree | that's also the whole point of a wiki |
| 18:39.32 | Kaydeethree | everyone can fix incorrect information |
| 18:39.37 | Chaotic_D | hrm... they says "there" instead of "thier" |
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| 18:40.53 | Chaotic_D | ooops. that's wowhead that had that incorrect word use, not wowwiki, so I can't correct it. :> |
| 18:41.17 | Chaotic_D | "...and there only repeatable quests are..." |
| 18:43.36 | Chaotic_D | where's a good place to talk about speculation of future WoW content? (lore and game additions) |
| 18:44.07 | Cide | on the forums, but be sure to make it sound like they're real patch notes |
| 18:44.54 | Chaotic_D | ... the official Blizzard forums? I thought those were a nightmare to be avoided at the risk of your sanity. |
| 18:45.27 | Chaotic_D | or some WoWi forums? |
| 18:45.29 | Garoun|Loupana | you play wow and work with UIs.. .and you still have sanity, I'm jealous |
| 18:45.37 | Kaydeethree | meh, I'm relatively sane still, and how long have I been trolling the wow forums? |
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| 18:46.10 | Chaotic_D | I was thinking lore-wise it would be cool if the non-evil races of the Horde split off from the evil ones, and we had a third faction that would allow more freedom in possible race additions, since we would have a neutral and evil faction. |
| 18:46.21 | Kaydeethree | http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee55/13ouncer/WoWScrnShot_090107_111814.jpg |
| 18:46.23 | Kaydeethree | oof |
| 18:47.07 | Chaotic_D | but... gameplay-wise... a truly evil faction would require too much work, since you'd need "good" aligned mobs to kill in sufficient quantities. |
| 18:48.14 | Chaotic_D | still... it would allow adding playable races that are aligned with Burning Legion / Old Gods! or neutral ones like Goblins and Panderan! |
| 18:50.11 | Chaotic_D | but while Nerubians follow the Old Gods, they hate the Burning Legion. So Nerubian playable race would either have to be undead Nerubians, or all evil playable races would have to be Burning Legion OR Old Gods but not both. |
| 18:51.29 | Punkie` | Kaydeethree: what did you do for that to happen? |
| 18:51.43 | Kaydeethree | I didn't. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371549494&sid=1 |
| 18:51.50 | Kaydeethree | he was "pvping on the pvp realm" |
| 18:54.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice @ screenshot |
| 18:54.53 | ScytheBlade1 | GMs have done that to me before |
| 18:56.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably because I had a level 3 character named Supermanman on an RP realm at 2:00 AM, with macros concerning just how super I was. |
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| 18:58.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And a guild entitled <and the SuperFriends>, with 11 others following me around. |
| 18:58.26 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 18:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Brokerman was awesome. His defense to the GM was that he was "in character" |
| 18:59.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "SELL SELL APPLE" |
| 18:59.14 | ScytheBlade1 | "BUY IBM" |
| 18:59.15 | ScytheBlade1 | etc |
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| 19:01.58 | Polarina | How do I get the item link / ID of a profession link such as [Leatherworking: Knothide Armor Kit]? |
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| 19:06.10 | Chaotic_D | I don't think you can. |
| 19:06.21 | Chaotic_D | not without clicking on it in-game. |
| 19:07.42 | Polarina | But how do I do it with clicking on it in-game? |
| 19:08.07 | Chaotic_D | uh... alt or ctrl or something... |
| 19:08.30 | Polarina | What are you talking about?? |
| 19:08.39 | zenzelezz | shift-click in the item list |
| 19:08.44 | zenzelezz | in the craft window |
| 19:09.00 | zenzelezz | oh wait, not how to link |
| 19:09.03 | zenzelezz | misread |
| 19:09.19 | Polarina | I have a addon that has that profession link, I want it to automatically turn it into a normal item link (The item it would craft). |
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| 19:16.02 | Chaotic_D | god, I hate little Timmy! always the strawman or scapegoat in every argument! |
| 19:16.19 | Chaotic_D | what did little Timmy ever do to you?? |
| 19:17.26 | Chaotic_D | little Timmy doesn't just play WoW. he's into everything. I wonder if there's a female version of him for the female-targetted products. |
| 19:22.12 | amro | Polarina: the link to the item can be grabbed from the profession frame, maybe you should look at how it's gotten from there |
| 19:23.53 | Polarina | amro: Couldn't find anything about it. |
| 19:32.17 | Chaotic_D | bah! my trail expired. that's probably why I can't log into the forums. |
| 19:32.26 | Chaotic_D | stupid forums anyways. :P |
| 19:32.47 | Shirik | So I just put this table together, right? On the chair I notice "made in china" Then I read the last page of the instruction book: |
| 19:33.13 | Shirik | "Caution: This unit is interned for use only with the products maximum weights indicated. If the weight placed on heavier than the maximum weights may result in instability and/or causing injury" |
| 19:33.17 | Shirik | (sic for all errors) |
| 19:33.29 | Kaydeethree | woo for engrish |
| 19:34.30 | zenzelezz | you think that's bad? There are way worse ones around |
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| 19:46.34 | AnduinLothar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pe0sRvKYCI |
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| 19:58.12 | Chaotic_D | hahahah. |
| 20:00.36 | Cidan | That looks... |
| 20:00.38 | Cidan | so...retarded |
| 20:00.47 | AnduinLothar | Is there a way to tell what addon called some abstract piece of code? |
| 20:01.07 | AnduinLothar | similar to the taint perhaps |
| 20:01.21 | Cidan | Not sure you can tell what addon did, by name anyways |
| 20:01.39 | Chaotic_D | why is it only guessed at that Azshara worships Old Gods? |
| 20:01.53 | Shirik | AnduinLothar: If you modify it |
| 20:01.56 | Shirik | you can use debugstack() |
| 20:02.03 | Shirik | >>> print(debugstack()) |
| 20:02.11 | Shirik | lua> print(debugstack()) |
| 20:02.11 | cladbot | Shirik: stack traceback:[C]: in function 'debugstack'sandbox.lua:246: in function 'debugstack'[string "print(debugstack())"]:1: in main chunk[C]: in function 'pcall'sandbox.lua:287: in function <sandbox.lua:265> |
| 20:02.19 | Cidan | yeah, was about to say you could use the debugstack, but, not from an external point of view |
| 20:02.21 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 20:02.31 | AnduinLothar | could write a parser |
| 20:02.38 | Shirik | wow doesn't allow the debug library otherwise you could hook |
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| 20:04.03 | Chaotic_D | There's at least a clear connection between Azshara and Sargeras... Isn't it more likely that she follows the Burning Legion than Old Gods? |
| 20:04.55 | Cidan | no |
| 20:06.36 | Rallion | no way |
| 20:08.13 | Chaotic_D | the wiki says Sargeras "tricked her" into opening a portal, but she was all for it when the Burning Legion appeared and started destroying things... |
| 20:08.30 | Cidan | Until the burning legion failed her |
| 20:08.39 | Cidan | and she was turned into the naga that she is now |
| 20:08.47 | Rallion | and now she's lived at the bottom of the ocean fof half an eternity |
| 20:09.17 | Rallion | and the Old Gods have previously demonstrated the ability to influence people at higher depths |
| 20:09.27 | Rallion | ...lower depths? |
| 20:09.28 | Rallion | whatever |
| 20:09.30 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:09.48 | Chaotic_D | hrm. |
| 20:09.55 | Cidan | not to mention the old gods were there before the night elfs were |
| 20:10.12 | Chaotic_D | what's that got to do with it? |
| 20:10.35 | Cidan | I would imagine she would worship the only people left who are older than her |
| 20:10.49 | Cidan | that can somewhat be on their side |
| 20:11.24 | Cidan | I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the old gods had something to do with her turning into a naga |
| 20:11.41 | Chaotic_D | yeah. it does sound vaguely like that might be the case. |
| 20:12.29 | Chaotic_D | still... I bet the Naga would follow the Burning Legion again. they already helped Illidan to aide the Burning Legion recently, in WC3. |
| 20:13.06 | Chaotic_D | just as much as Forsaken or Blood Elves would follow the Horde. (I still don't get it) |
| 20:13.30 | Cidan | wow, no? |
| 20:13.36 | Cidan | Illidan has his own agenda |
| 20:14.07 | Chaotic_D | but the Naga are loyal only to Azshara, and they helped Illidan to try and summon... uh... who was it... Archimonde? |
| 20:14.09 | art3mis | he even bought a day runner! |
| 20:14.09 | Cidan | and the Forsaken and Blood Elves don't "follow" the horde, they are with them because they are tolerated |
| 20:14.45 | Cidan | Illidan had nothing to do with Archimonde being summoned... |
| 20:14.53 | Chaotic_D | yeah. but the Forsaken and Blood Elves are pretty much in that alliance. (small 'a') |
| 20:15.33 | Cidan | right, because they are accepted -- remember that the Horde isn't really evil |
| 20:15.39 | Cidan | The trolls might be |
| 20:15.56 | art3mis | some of the troll tribes are |
| 20:16.00 | lolinternet | the forsaken are evil |
| 20:16.05 | lolinternet | do some forsaken quests |
| 20:16.06 | lolinternet | then you know |
| 20:16.07 | lolinternet | >:O |
| 20:16.10 | art3mis | the scourge is evil |
| 20:16.15 | art3mis | the forsaken is just bitter |
| 20:16.17 | sag_ich_nicht | no, the forsaken are too |
| 20:16.19 | Cidan | the forsaken only want to be left alone, the scourge is evil |
| 20:16.23 | sag_ich_nicht | they are working on their own plague |
| 20:16.25 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 20:16.30 | sag_ich_nicht | go do some quests |
| 20:16.31 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 20:16.37 | art3mis | ive only played undead |
| 20:17.04 | art3mis | they are researching the plague in order to change over the remaining scourge and rid them of the scourge as well as "rescue" them |
| 20:17.25 | art3mis | there are a couple of random vendettas though |
| 20:17.42 | Chaotic_D | http://www.wowwiki.com/Illidan#Allegiance_with_demons |
| 20:17.43 | art3mis | but it's not as blatant as the dranio's and their "go kill blood elves" quests |
| 20:17.49 | sag_ich_nicht | heh, wasn't there a later quest where they are trying to extend that to make all living forsaken ones? |
| 20:18.00 | sag_ich_nicht | and, the bloodelves have quite a few evil quests |
| 20:18.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean |
| 20:18.04 | sag_ich_nicht | hello |
| 20:18.15 | sag_ich_nicht | imprisoning a being of pure power and sucking the live energy out of it |
| 20:18.18 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: only to certain split factions that were a major cause of destruction against them |
| 20:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | -power +light |
| 20:18.35 | Rallion | blood elves are the only race that I would actually classify as evil |
| 20:18.36 | sag_ich_nicht | imprisoning a being of pure light and good and sucking the live energy out of it |
| 20:18.46 | sag_ich_nicht | *life |
| 20:18.47 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 20:18.50 | Rallion | lolz. |
| 20:19.00 | Kaydeethree | like the naaru in silvermoon couldn't get out if he wanted to? |
| 20:19.11 | Rallion | he seems to be in some pain. |
| 20:19.16 | Rallion | or it. |
| 20:19.17 | Rallion | whatever. |
| 20:19.33 | amro | he seems to be bored out of his mind, rather |
| 20:19.38 | Kaydeethree | ^ |
| 20:20.03 | Rallion | I would have to say that it's pretty much undeniable that his friends could come save him if they cared to |
| 20:20.18 | art3mis | it's prolly more a caus of the narru offering himself up to keep the blood elves functional and away from kal, |
| 20:20.19 | Cidan | Chaotic_D, in WC3 Exp he planned to take the lich kings power as his own, but he failed in even that |
| 20:20.31 | Kaydeethree | art3mis, precisely |
| 20:20.38 | Cidan | Chaotic_D, he isn't serving the demons, again, he has his own agenda. |
| 20:20.45 | Rallion | Illidan is pretty much a giant failure. |
| 20:21.03 | Rallion | Seriously. He always loses. |
| 20:21.03 | art3mis | illidan did have a LOT of opposition though |
| 20:21.14 | Rallion | yeah, 'failure' is pretty harsh |
| 20:21.28 | art3mis | i dont think there is a single race (chaos included) that doesnt want his head on a pike |
| 20:21.44 | Rallion | true enough, that |
| 20:21.46 | Cidan | same with Arthas, :P |
| 20:21.48 | art3mis | he did pretty good with having to wage a multi front war agaisnt EVERYONE |
| 20:21.56 | Cidan | Except he had the lich king on his side |
| 20:22.30 | art3mis | yeah arthas was just a really good minion |
| 20:23.14 | art3mis | hehe i was doing quests on my draino in ashenvale the other day down by the demons |
| 20:24.12 | art3mis | and when i ran to through, there were a couple of horde. i killed the ifernal and knelt before groms "monument" out of habit and they all bowed and left me alone ;P |
| 20:24.32 | art3mis | because hellscream > * |
| 20:24.51 | Cidan | really |
| 20:24.53 | Cidan | if you look at it |
| 20:24.59 | Cidan | Humans are pretty much evil |
| 20:25.12 | Cidan | back stabbing, self serving, kill on a whim just because of your race |
| 20:25.14 | art3mis | yes |
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| 20:25.27 | art3mis | there is nothing redeeming about the humans |
| 20:25.46 | Chaotic_D | how can Blood Elves go against Illidan? They follow Kael... Kael is second to Illidan... whah? |
| 20:26.03 | art3mis | they don't follow kael |
| 20:26.09 | Chaotic_D | ... they don't? |
| 20:26.10 | art3mis | not the ones on azeroth anyways |
| 20:26.18 | art3mis | they left kael |
| 20:26.22 | art3mis | thats why they' |
| 20:26.28 | Chaotic_D | :S retcon? |
| 20:26.29 | art3mis | ve got narru |
| 20:26.29 | Kaydeethree | Chaotic_D, the TK attunement questline walks through the reasons why even belves will kill kael |
| 20:27.01 | art3mis | the ones in azshara are still loyal, but that doesnt men that all of them are |
| 20:27.16 | art3mis | just like thralls orc have nothing to do with the burning legions |
| 20:27.52 | AnduinLothar | is it possible to get ## Author from a toc in game even tho it's not X- metadata? |
| 20:27.53 | Chaotic_D | well most of them were under magic control with that blood of mannoroth. |
| 20:28.08 | Chaotic_D | although I guess that's a retcon, but at least that started back in WC3. |
| 20:28.56 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:29.01 | Cidan | that started in like |
| 20:29.03 | Cidan | WC1 brother |
| 20:29.04 | Cidan | :P |
| 20:29.32 | Chaotic_D | really? the Orcs being good people before being brainwashed? |
| 20:29.38 | Cidan | yep |
| 20:29.51 | Chaotic_D | huh. so much lore. |
| 20:30.01 | Cidan | it's why WC1 happened, the orcs were brainwashed by mannoroth |
| 20:30.17 | AnduinLothar | wasn't the demon influence the reason they became war like while still on draenor, before they even came through the portal? not necessarily mannoroth tho. |
| 20:30.39 | Cidan | I believe in WC3 he states drink from his blood "once again" |
| 20:30.43 | Cidan | mannoroth, that is. |
| 20:30.52 | Chaotic_D | I'm just trying to distinguish between retcon and original content. |
| 20:31.05 | Cidan | imo |
| 20:31.06 | Kaydeethree | gul'dan's influence is what started the downward spiral before the first pit lord showed up |
| 20:31.16 | Cidan | your best bet |
| 20:31.22 | Kaydeethree | the line between retcon and original lore is beyond blurred |
| 20:31.23 | Cidan | read the wow website, not the wiki |
| 20:32.13 | art3mis | i am kind of confused as to why the tauren sided with anyone at all though |
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| 20:32.21 | AnduinLothar | it's a progressive story. the lore they came up with for WC1 they never imagined would continue to the Naru in space |
| 20:32.23 | art3mis | i mean most of them are part of cenarion |
| 20:32.42 | Cidan | art3mis, WC3 explains it |
| 20:33.05 | art3mis | nutshell it, i havent gotten to that part again and i've forgotten it |
| 20:33.22 | Chaotic_D | I'm annoyed female Draeni don't have forehead ridges. >:( |
| 20:33.37 | AnduinLothar | klingon style? |
| 20:34.14 | Chaotic_D | I mean there's so many nice looks in the concept artwork, even in the game, that's just not in the player models. |
| 20:34.31 | Chaotic_D | I want head tentacles too. |
| 20:34.36 | Chaotic_D | female head tentacles. |
| 20:34.47 | Chaotic_D | I have tentacle-envy. |
| 20:34.50 | AnduinLothar | so they tossed um for sex apeal, welcome to comercialism |
| 20:35.00 | Chaotic_D | they HAVE sex appeal! |
| 20:35.19 | Chaotic_D | if it was just one of the horn styles, I'd be happy. |
| 20:35.37 | Cidan | art3mis, uh, something like Orc's helped kill off Tauren enemies, and they liked the way the Orcs fought, with honor etc. |
| 20:35.44 | art3mis | im sad the age of armour beta is slow going, heh couldnt create my default character last night |
| 20:35.44 | Cidan | and their culture |
| 20:35.47 | Cidan | so they became friends |
| 20:35.51 | Chaotic_D | I mean... hell, only one or two of the female troll's faces looks remotely non-creepy. |
| 20:35.58 | art3mis | cidan: oh |
| 20:36.04 | art3mis | so stupid crap ;) |
| 20:36.09 | Cidan | yeah, nothing major |
| 20:36.43 | art3mis | i always find the cross faction factions funny |
| 20:36.57 | art3mis | instead of being hated on both sides everyone clamours for thier love ;P |
| 20:37.30 | Chaotic_D | I'm surprised Tauren and Night Elves didn't get along. |
| 20:37.39 | Chaotic_D | outside of the Druids... |
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| 20:38.48 | Cidan | Remember that Nelfs are a bit arrogant and self serving |
| 20:38.54 | Cidan | perfect match for humans, :D |
| 20:39.10 | Cidan | even in their druid studies, a lot of them are nothing more than spoiled brats |
| 20:39.45 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 20:39.49 | Chaotic_D | oh. |
| 20:40.03 | art3mis | was running around in wc3 thinking just that |
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| 20:54.59 | kergoth | End, whatever happened to the yatlas rewrite, get put on hold? |
| 21:02.38 | AnduinLothar | anyone know if it's possible to tag a file in svn with the $Rev$ of the parent folder? |
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| 21:03.33 | kergoth | "tag"? as in copy into tags? |
| 21:03.44 | kergoth | or do a keyword expansion to get that value into the file? |
| 21:05.28 | AnduinLothar | keyword expansion |
| 21:07.26 | kergoth | nope, theres no keyword for parent rev |
| 21:08.28 | Kemayo | And I'd imagine that what you'd want would be the rev of the lastest rev'd file inside that folder, not the rev of the parent folder (which I think would only change when you actually did something to it). |
| 21:11.05 | AnduinLothar | mmm, i thought folders didn't actually have rev's |
| 21:12.06 | AnduinLothar | well I spose I could make a post commit hook that removes the revision from all the $Rev: XXX $ keywords in the file I want when a file in it's folder is changed and recommit it, but then it'd be rev+1 of the last real change |
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| 21:15.18 | kergoth | AnduinLothar, remember that $Rev$ is expanded on checkout. if you were to store $Revision: 53$ in svn, itd just get updated to the current revision again on checkout. the revision # isnt stored in the file in svn. |
| 21:15.38 | kergoth | you'd have to use a custom field to replace or something, not an existing svn keyword |
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| 21:17.17 | Chaotic_D | there's this map I found on wowwiki that shows 5 old gods in a pentacle on the world map. ahnquiraj is known, as is the master's glaive, but the map shows one about in Undercity. @_@; what's with that? |
| 21:18.38 | Kaydeethree | where's that map at? |
| 21:18.57 | Chaotic_D | I don't know. I was trying to find it again. :S |
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| 21:21.55 | Chaotic_D | the filename is Oldgod2_93765.jpg |
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| 21:23.07 | Rallion | that would be cool, sorta kinda |
| 21:23.21 | Rallion | ooooh |
| 21:24.04 | Chaotic_D | it's strange. it shows northrend, with an old god there, another in an island to the south... |
| 21:25.11 | Kaydeethree | I can't source that image from anywhere... part of me wonders if it's fanfic |
| 21:25.16 | Chaotic_D | ah, here it is! on the page for one of the islands I was searching! http://www.wowwiki.com/Hiji |
| 21:25.57 | Chaotic_D | not that it explains WHERE the map is from... -_-; |
| 21:26.17 | Rallion | what's up with the different colors? |
| 21:26.34 | Chaotic_D | uhhhh... brown=dead, it looks like. |
| 21:26.47 | Chaotic_D | so master's glaive and hiji. |
| 21:26.57 | Chaotic_D | with the other three being imprisoned. |
| 21:27.17 | Chaotic_D | so apparently there's an imprisoned old god under undercity. much underer city! |
| 21:27.18 | Rallion | the southeastern one, dead? but we never knew he existed! |
| 21:27.29 | Rallion | or possibly just nearby |
| 21:27.32 | Chaotic_D | yes, but we knew they killed two. |
| 21:27.36 | Rallion | true enough. |
| 21:27.54 | AnduinLothar | who killed 2? |
| 21:28.06 | Chaotic_D | the titans. |
| 21:28.24 | AnduinLothar | source: http://ngacn.com/main_php%5Efunc%5E4%5Etarget_id%5E765.html |
| 21:29.05 | Chaotic_D | well... I'm not sure what lore says 2 were killed... it's "believed" two were killed. |
| 21:29.20 | Kaydeethree | [17:26:03] <Sandwichman2448> Naze made it. |
| 21:29.25 | Kaydeethree | [17:26:46] <Sandwichman2448> If I recall, he thought Hiji was the dragon isles and the old gods made a pentagram. |
| 21:30.16 | Chaotic_D | still, that would be cool. |
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| 21:31.19 | Rallion | that pic of the city built out of the corpse is pretty neat. |
| 21:31.22 | Chaotic_D | also: the Old Gods are really crappy at geometry. ;) |
| 21:31.44 | AnduinLothar | mayeb the map isn't to scale |
| 21:31.51 | Rallion | tectonic shifts! |
| 21:31.55 | AnduinLothar | unelss the world really is flat.. |
| 21:32.16 | Chaotic_D | I'll go with Rallion's explanation. |
| 21:32.42 | Rallion | okay, time to give Metroid Prime 3 a spin. |
| 21:33.18 | Chaotic_D | still... before the moonwell exploded... the two halves were closer together... MUCH closer. even if Northrend came down and Hiji came up... the two on Kalimdor are far apart. |
| 21:33.30 | Chaotic_D | I never even played Metroid Prime 1. T_T |
| 21:34.36 | Rallion | ...you win on that one. |
| 21:35.02 | Chaotic_D | Next time, Gadget! Next time! |
| 21:35.16 | AnduinLothar | what made the big whorl ppol anyway? |
| 21:35.27 | Kaydeethree | the moonwell exploding |
| 21:35.29 | Chaotic_D | the moonwell imploding |
| 21:35.32 | Cidan | that's where the moonwell was |
| 21:35.34 | Lunessa | Destruction of the original moonwell |
| 21:35.37 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 21:35.38 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:35.41 | Kaydeethree | hah |
| 21:35.44 | AnduinLothar | ok, so where was it? |
| 21:35.55 | Chaotic_D | I'm guessing in the middle of Azshara. |
| 21:36.03 | Lunessa | Queen Azshara's realm. |
| 21:36.04 | Rallion | where it is is...gone. |
| 21:36.14 | Rallion | blowed it up! |
| 21:36.21 | AnduinLothar | i don't remember any of that lore, is it from a book? |
| 21:36.37 | Lunessa | It's on the WoW site. |
| 21:36.40 | Chaotic_D | well, current Azshara is probably most of former Azshara. it's 3 sides of an enclosed area, so the moonwell could have been in there. |
| 21:37.22 | Chaotic_D | and I bet the current Azshara used to be south of Hillsbrad, since that's a nice open area of the Eastern Continent. |
| 21:38.25 | AnduinLothar | you mean the Well of Eternity, right? |
| 21:38.32 | Chaotic_D | I want some graphic editing software that can stick map halves together to reverse tectonic-like shifting of landmasses. |
| 21:38.46 | Chaotic_D | ... oh. yeah. "my bad". |
| 21:39.03 | AnduinLothar | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter1.html |
| 21:39.34 | AnduinLothar | coulda sworn i read all that.. |
| 21:39.44 | AnduinLothar | prolly 4 yrs ago |
| 21:40.15 | Chaotic_D | I want to stick the two map halves together and see what the world looked like pre-sundering. |
| 21:41.15 | Chaotic_D | how do the Night Elves and Trolls play out? the Gurubashi empire was before the Night Elves, right? |
| 21:41.44 | Lunessa | Hard to say. Not really made clear anywhere |
| 21:41.59 | Lunessa | Trolls claim elves came from trolls. Elves repudiate that. |
| 21:42.24 | Chaotic_D | wait... trolls gathered around the well of eternity though. so it had to have been before. |
| 21:42.41 | Rallion | yeah, don't believe the elves. |
| 21:42.54 | Lunessa | And elves claim to have been guardians at the Well too. |
| 21:43.02 | Chaotic_D | I like the Troll origin for Elves idea. |
| 21:43.23 | Lunessa | I'm just saying that it appears to be a matter of debate in Azeroth. :) |
| 21:43.24 | Rallion | Well, if Trolls were at the well, and NElves were at the well, Trolls must have been there first. |
| 21:43.36 | Rallion | Because the Elves were sure as hell there last. |
| 21:43.58 | Chaotic_D | exactly. |
| 21:44.18 | Chaotic_D | unless they were both there at the same time and didn't get in each other's hair. |
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| 21:50.20 | Chaotic_D | ok, it says the troll empire was 16,000 years ago. the well of eternity exploded 10,000 years ago. |
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| 21:52.43 | Corrodias | according to what i know, the trolls were the first big race on azeroth, then night elves came around somehow |
| 21:52.55 | Cidan | Yes, that is correct |
| 21:52.59 | Corrodias | possibly trolls mutated by the well of eternity, but that's speculation |
| 21:53.01 | Cidan | Trolls were first. |
| 21:53.20 | Cidan | No, it's not, it's on the official wow lore |
| 21:53.30 | Cidan | Trolls that gained the ability to heal quickly |
| 21:53.30 | Cidan | etc |
| 21:53.40 | Corrodias | that's a feature of trolls, not night elves |
| 21:53.43 | Cidan | well, nomads that could heal quickly, etc, became trolls |
| 21:53.50 | Cidan | I'm talking about trolls. :P |
| 21:54.11 | Corrodias | (re: night elves) possibly trolls mutated by the well of eternity, but that's speculation |
| 21:54.16 | Cidan | ah |
| 21:54.28 | Cidan | not sure, I think they were another band of nomads |
| 21:54.32 | Cidan | don't think they were trolls |
| 21:55.27 | Cidan | imo |
| 21:55.27 | Cidan | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter1.html |
| 21:55.29 | Corrodias | nomads? what are you talking about? i haven't heard anything about non-troll races before the trolls |
| 21:56.07 | Corrodias | oh, i see |
| 21:56.27 | Cidan | In time, a primitive tribe of nocturnal humanoids cautiously made their way to the edges of the mesmerizing enchanted lake. The feral, nomadic humanoids, drawn by the Well's strange energies, built crude homes upon its tranquil shores. |
| 21:56.43 | Cidan | Over time, the Well's cosmic power affected the tribe, making them strong, wise, and virtually immortal. The tribe adopted the name Kaldorei... |
| 21:56.50 | Corrodias | funny how it doesn't even bother to mention the trolls by name |
| 21:57.04 | Corrodias | racist, i say |
| 21:57.21 | Cidan | no, we maybe wrong according to that page |
| 21:57.40 | Corrodias | "As the seemingly endless ages passed, the night elves' civilization expanded both territorially and culturally." -- yeah, conquering troll lands |
| 21:58.25 | Cidan | but trolls aren't mentioned until chapter 2 |
| 21:59.09 | Cidan | that was when the world was already sundered |
| 21:59.26 | Cidan | So nelfs came first, according to that |
| 22:00.02 | Corrodias | by chapter 2, the trolls already have an established empire |
| 22:00.05 | Cidan | though there could be some history before 10,000 |
| 22:00.06 | Cidan | Yeah |
| 22:00.11 | Cidan | it's not specific |
| 22:01.13 | Corrodias | here we go, "About 16,000 years ago, trolls lorded over much of ancient Kalimdor, which was the only continent on Azeroth at the time." http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/troll/history.html |
| 22:01.39 | Cidan | excellent |
| 22:01.44 | Cidan | well, then there we go |
| 22:01.56 | Corrodias | so if the night elves developed by some "nomads" being near the well of eternity, it's quite reasonable those were trolls |
| 22:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1267426743&sid=1 |
| 22:03.04 | Cidan | I don't think so |
| 22:03.09 | Cidan | I think they were humans |
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| 22:03.28 | Corrodias | i suppose that depends on where humans came from, though i won't deny the possibility |
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| 22:04.00 | Lunessa | Humans show up pretty late in the story - about the time the 'high elves' are settling in Lorederon. |
| 22:04.52 | Cidan | "In time, a primitive tribe of nocturnal humanoids..." |
| 22:05.09 | Corrodias | well, humanoid doesn't mean human |
| 22:05.19 | Cidan | True, but it seems more likely |
| 22:05.31 | Cidan | rather than trolls |
| 22:05.32 | Thunder_Child | elf rejects! |
| 22:05.33 | Corrodias | night elves bear much more resemblence to trolls than to humans, so the physical changes would be relatively minor |
| 22:05.40 | Cidan | No way |
| 22:05.43 | Cidan | I see it the other way around |
| 22:05.54 | Cidan | They don't have tusks, they don't have hunched backs |
| 22:06.03 | Chaotic_D | trolls are humanoid. |
| 22:06.03 | Cidan | their hair is more human like |
| 22:06.05 | Corrodias | well, i think the trolls just like to stand that way |
| 22:06.21 | Corrodias | (and i wish they wouldn't) |
| 22:06.30 | Chaotic_D | only the guys do. ;> |
| 22:06.31 | Cidan | And mind you, the Nelfs can't regen at all |
| 22:06.36 | Corrodias | true, but they have long ears and odd colors unlike humans |
| 22:06.39 | Cidan | even the trolls of now, 16k years later can still regen |
| 22:06.47 | Corrodias | maybe it was a mix of humans and trolls. :P |
| 22:06.51 | Cidan | Could be |
| 22:06.57 | Corrodias | and the well of eternity blended them together! yay! |
| 22:07.00 | Cidan | Like the reject chidlren left outside the village |
| 22:07.12 | Corrodias | or maybe they just had a lot of sex and the well of eternity is blamed for the crossbreeding |
| 22:07.19 | Cidan | that too |
| 22:07.41 | Chaotic_D | night elves are smaller... like humans. |
| 22:07.58 | Corrodias | are they? i always thought they were a bit taller than humans |
| 22:08.11 | Thunder_Child | nelf+belf+inbreeding=humans. got it. |
| 22:08.30 | Chaotic_D | but the playable Trolls (Darkspear) are 7' tall. Night Elves still don't compare to that. |
| 22:08.44 | AnduinLothar | weren't the blood elfs high elves first? |
| 22:08.52 | Cidan | yes |
| 22:08.52 | Chaotic_D | yes. |
| 22:09.05 | Corrodias | which was a subsection of night elves |
| 22:09.16 | Cidan | blood elf->high elf->night elf, in reverse order, :P |
| 22:09.18 | Corrodias | apparently altered further by their close association with the Well |
| 22:09.32 | Corrodias | or so i would speculate |
| 22:09.53 | Cidan | high elf came from the sun well |
| 22:10.00 | Corrodias | or maybe night elves all just eat a lot of prunes |
| 22:10.05 | Cidan | which you destroy in WC3 |
| 22:10.05 | Chaotic_D | and the high elves, as far as we know, weren't light-skinned. the outcast highborn became light-skinned after they gave up the nocturnal ways and also got an awesome sunning pool. ;> |
| 22:10.14 | Corrodias | oooh, okay |
| 22:10.45 | Cidan | In order to raise Kel'Thuzzad, who just dies to 40 little players in Naxx |
| 22:10.48 | Cidan | loser. |
| 22:11.34 | Thrae | 20-30 Level 70s now ;) |
| 22:11.36 | Chaotic_D | so lore-wise, who's dead from battles in WoW? |
| 22:11.48 | Cidan | uh, a lot of people |
| 22:11.58 | Chaotic_D | ok, who's NOT dead? |
| 22:12.03 | Thrae | I AM THE ALMIGHTY KEL-THUZAD, but I died to 10 Level 80s...they were a higher level then me =/ |
| 22:12.04 | Chaotic_D | from battles where you fight them. |
| 22:12.21 | Cidan | but I don't think naxx is canon storyline |
| 22:12.26 | Chaotic_D | <Kel'Thuzzad> HAX! |
| 22:12.35 | Corrodias | who is not? yet? arthas, ner'zhul (who is also arthas now), kael'thas, kil'jaedan, and sargeras |
| 22:12.36 | Kaydeethree | it is. read the quest text for turning in his phylactery |
| 22:12.54 | Corrodias | along with deathwing i suppose |
| 22:12.55 | Cidan | Kaydeethree, blizzard said a lot of the in game isn't canon |
| 22:13.01 | Thrae | Once Northrend comes out, you know there will be an All-Deathknight raid on Arthas just for the irony factor. |
| 22:13.04 | Corrodias | and i hear malygos isn't so nice in Wrath |
| 22:13.06 | Chaotic_D | who's not dead... from battles where you fight them in WoW... battles that have happened, not stuff that is yet to happen. :P |
| 22:13.15 | Cidan | Arthas won't be dying anytime soon |
| 22:13.20 | Kaydeethree | malygos lost his mind. we knew that much from the books |
| 22:13.32 | Corrodias | i didn't read the books, i'm afraid. i've just tooled around on wowwiki. |
| 22:13.42 | ScytheBlade1 | He's slowly getting it back, I know that from the interviews |
| 22:14.05 | Kaydeethree | ya. as he's getting back he's realizing that the mortal races are still mucking about with magic and probably going to bring the legion back to azeroth |
| 22:14.06 | Corrodias | maybe we won't have to totally kill him, then! |
| 22:14.09 | Thrae | Cidan: Probably going to just teleport away at 1%, saying "I'm not even using 1/1000th of my power, but you passed this challenge" |
| 22:14.12 | Kaydeethree | that's the last thing he remembers, after all |
| 22:14.20 | Cidan | Thrae, likely. |
| 22:14.25 | Chaotic_D | hah. |
| 22:14.34 | Kaydeethree | "It is not yet my time." |
| 22:14.39 | Cidan | Blizzard devs already said it would take over 1000 players just to kill Arthas, etc |
| 22:14.50 | Thrae | Cidan: Supposedly in WoW RPG, you need two special items to even be able to hit Arthas / The Lich King |
| 22:14.59 | Cidan | hah |
| 22:15.03 | Thrae | I'd like to see a 1000 man Raid :D |
| 22:15.07 | Shirik | woot |
| 22:15.10 | Cidan | I... would not. |
| 22:15.12 | Shirik | 1000 man raid |
| 22:15.18 | Thrae | 1000 FFA RAID ON HOGGER! |
| 22:15.20 | Chaotic_D | ... where would you stand? |
| 22:15.23 | Shirik | two legendaries drop |
| 22:15.28 | Shirik | now figure out who gets em |
| 22:15.30 | Chaotic_D | imagine the FPS? @_@; *shudder* |
| 22:15.33 | Corrodias | 1000 naked blood elf women flood into ironforge |
| 22:15.47 | Chaotic_D | -_-; |
| 22:15.53 | Cidan | in theory, you could do it... |
| 22:16.03 | Thrae | In Northrend, we shall find that there is only one boss more powerful then the psuedo-Arthas fight... |
| 22:16.07 | Corrodias | i don't think the servers could handle 1000 players in the same place. or anyone's computer. |
| 22:16.09 | Thrae | MECHA-HOGGER! |
| 22:16.18 | Cidan | 25 groups of 40 man raids |
| 22:16.20 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: didn't we find out that at the AQ gates event?= |
| 22:16.27 | Chaotic_D | 1000 naked BE women sounds like a different kind of "raid". :> like the Habbo-hotel/4-chan kind. |
| 22:16.29 | Corrodias | :) i bet. i didn't attend. |
| 22:16.31 | zenzelezz | half the servers or more chugged to death on that one |
| 22:16.43 | zenzelezz | you didn't even have to be in Silithus, they just lagged for minutes and died |
| 22:16.44 | Cidan | ah yes, I forgot AQ |
| 22:16.45 | Corrodias | hey, HEY. Chaotic. rule #1. |
| 22:16.55 | Thrae | I petition for Mecha-Hogger to be included as a Level 97 Boss. |
| 22:17.04 | Cidan | I really hate how you can only get the AQ mount during that small time frame |
| 22:17.09 | Chaotic_D | oh, woops. |
| 22:17.10 | Cidan | like 8 hours after the gong is hit, and that's it |
| 22:17.23 | Cidan | The person who got it on Eredar doesn't even login anymore |
| 22:17.24 | zenzelezz | coordinated guild effort? |
| 22:17.26 | Corrodias | i don't mind grinding for hours to get some silly mount, but only being able to get one like that? :P |
| 22:17.33 | Cidan | the original mount |
| 22:17.41 | Cidan | he was a tool anyways, but bleh, still. |
| 22:18.00 | Cairenn | later all |
| 22:18.02 | zenzelezz | I actually spotted a Scarab-Lord in Shattrath the other day |
| 22:18.07 | zenzelezz | in gimp gear though :-( |
| 22:18.20 | Cidan | baiiii |
| 22:18.28 | Cidan | OH NO, PEER HAS GOTTEN HER |
| 22:18.32 | Cidan | DEATH TO PEER |
| 22:18.38 | Corrodias | sigh |
| 22:18.53 | Kaydeethree | that bastard, he's everywhere |
| 22:19.02 | Corrodias | i want to use my OWN title |
| 22:19.09 | zenzelezz | same |
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| 22:19.13 | Corrodias | "all-too-sexy" |
| 22:19.23 | Shirik | Cidan got owned |
| 22:19.24 | Shirik | imo |
| 22:19.24 | zenzelezz | Cidan: you forget FreeNode encloses custom quit messages in "" |
| 22:19.26 | Chaotic_D | where can you get the graphics for the minimap? the map from worldofwar.net uses it to overlay all their text and transportation routes onto. |
| 22:19.31 | Cidan | :( |
| 22:19.32 | Cidan | fail |
| 22:19.32 | Shirik | oh yeah :( |
| 22:19.34 | Shirik | he tricked me at least |
| 22:19.38 | Cidan | WOOHOO |
| 22:19.59 | Corrodias | im not sure, Chaotic_D |
| 22:20.06 | Corrodias | the addon Yatlas displays the whole thing... |
| 22:20.09 | Cidan | also shirik, adding things to a list is easy now |
| 22:20.13 | Kaydeethree | Chaotic_D, extracting them from the .mpqs. which is not a task to be undertaken lightly |
| 22:20.16 | Cidan | list:add(cell/frame/whatever) |
| 22:20.18 | Cidan | done, :D |
| 22:20.29 | Chaotic_D | why, because they're in many many many small fragments? |
| 22:20.33 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 22:20.40 | Chaotic_D | curses. |
| 22:20.56 | Chaotic_D | I don't even think yatlas has the updated map from the expansion... |
| 22:21.07 | Corrodias | updated map? |
| 22:21.12 | Chaotic_D | new lands. |
| 22:21.23 | Chaotic_D | Draeni and Blood Elf lands. |
| 22:21.39 | Corrodias | as far as i know, it does |
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| 22:21.48 | Corrodias | although it appears to have a little bug up in BEM at the moment |
| 22:21.57 | Chaotic_D | I updated to the latest version and it didn't. |
| 22:22.54 | Corrodias | it does too |
| 22:22.57 | Corrodias | in the "outland" category |
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| 22:25.35 | Chaotic_D | hm. |
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| 22:25.48 | Chaotic_D | well my Kalimdor and Eastern Continent maps weren't updated. |
| 22:26.07 | Chaotic_D | I'll have to check again when I get around to registering. I think I need a break. |
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| 22:37.29 | Corrodias | that's because kalimdor and eastern kingdoms don't contain the exodar and quel'thalas |
| 22:37.34 | Corrodias | they're actually in outland |
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| 22:45.24 | AnduinLothar | Working on a revision for addon categories. Looking for Comments/Suggestions: http://wowi.pastey.net/73260 |
| 22:46.37 | Chaotic_D | that's nutty. |
| 22:47.44 | Chaotic_D | the minimap thing, not the addon. |
| 22:48.21 | Chaotic_D | since my best friend is Alliance, I wonder what Alliance race/class I should pick to play with him... |
| 22:48.46 | AnduinLothar | dwarf priest |
| 22:48.47 | Chaotic_D | I do want to play a Draeni at some point. and those Draeni shaman totems look neat. |
| 22:48.59 | Chaotic_D | and I hear the starting lands are superior. |
| 22:49.04 | AnduinLothar | hey are |
| 22:49.07 | AnduinLothar | they* |
| 22:49.32 | Thunder_Child | to much running around |
| 22:49.45 | Chaotic_D | I was thinking a gnome rogue would be fun. because they're hard to see. |
| 22:50.00 | Chaotic_D | I heard the new lands were more efficient for questing. |
| 22:51.23 | Chaotic_D | oh, I also realized for chronology... it states the sundering happened 10,000 years before... the first war. not 10,000 before the present. |
| 22:51.58 | Rallion | fuuuuuuck. my wii is artifacting. |
| 22:52.43 | Chaotic_D | oh. the first war was about "present day" (with WC3 happening like 25 years later) |
| 22:56.46 | Kaydeethree | oh lmao... and nsfw (it's just text, though) ... http://users.evtek.fi/~petteril/please_a_woman.png |
| 22:57.28 | Rallion | I don't know if I want to just keep the Wii until I beat metroid, or send it back now. |
| 22:57.37 | Rallion | this is a tough call for me. |
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| 23:07.14 | Rallion | i'll leave it off for a while and see if it stops. |
| 23:07.26 | Rallion | I'd love to do the advance replacement thing, but then I lose all my VC games |
| 23:07.30 | Rallion | and that's a bunch. |
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| 23:08.40 | Chaotic_D | Kaydeethree: oh come on! that's not fair! you couldn't have it and eat it too! |
| 23:08.55 | Kaydeethree | hm? |
| 23:09.11 | Chaotic_D | ... your link from 12 minutes ago. |
| 23:09.15 | Kaydeethree | ah |
| 23:10.15 | Chaotic_D | I think it should shoot both chocolate AND money. |
| 23:11.36 | Chaotic_D | no wait... would diamonds cut your mouth if you sucked the chocolate off them? damn, it's gotta be both very valuable, and not inconvenient... perhaps if it was just a dispenser with chocolate on one end and diamonds out the other, that way you wouldn't have to worry about mixing them. |
| 23:13.11 | Rallion | I agree with the last line. |
| 23:14.53 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if Blizzard would let me name a Tauren female "Funbags" |
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| 23:15.35 | sag_ich_nicht | probably |
| 23:15.37 | Chaotic_D | or "Milkmaid" |
| 23:15.40 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 23:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | sure |
| 23:15.45 | Corrodias | milkmail definitely |
| 23:15.47 | Corrodias | *maid |
| 23:15.53 | Corrodias | funbags maybe not |
| 23:16.07 | Corrodias | at worst, you'd just have to change it, though |
| 23:16.14 | Chaotic_D | what's wrong with bags of fun? :) |
| 23:16.33 | Corrodias | if you have to ask if a name is allowed, it probably isn't |
| 23:16.40 | Chaotic_D | I'd have to have very exceptional rules of playing a female Tauren, like having an amusing name. |
| 23:16.52 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if they would allow "crud" in a name. |
| 23:16.55 | Corrodias | but i don't think anybody would really care about "funbags" |
| 23:17.10 | Chaotic_D | all my male Tauren are named after that list from MST3K of macho names. |
| 23:17.20 | Corrodias | now, here's my interesting tale: Clearcasting procs via omen of clarity don't always show up in my combat log. what's up with that? |
| 23:17.23 | Chaotic_D | CrudBonemeal. |
| 23:17.42 | Chaotic_D | I remember you mentioning that before. |
| 23:17.49 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 23:18.12 | Chaotic_D | Dirk Hardpec. Big McLargeHuge. Slab Beefrock. |
| 23:19.48 | Cidan | Does anyone know if after you SetScrollChild, can you setpoint on that child and not have it fubar? |
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| 23:23.34 | Chaotic_D | crap. NotePad++ used to let me copy and paste linefeeds, and now it won't. |
| 23:23.45 | Industrial | whats a linefeed |
| 23:23.57 | Chaotic_D | it's what it puts in a text file when you hit enter. |
| 23:24.20 | Chaotic_D | cariage return and linefeed, it looks like. |
| 23:24.28 | Industrial | oh right |
| 23:33.02 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Thunder_Child (i=Thunder_@cpe-76-171-184-46.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:33.24 | Kaydeethree | heh... apparently the new keylogger masquerades as a teleport hack |
| 23:34.27 | Thunder_Child | it's true..it teleports your info to their database |
| 23:56.35 | AnduinLothar | #wowace has become ckk fanclub |
| 23:56.51 | Kaydeethree | "has become"? |
| 23:57.21 | AnduinLothar | well he seems to be fragmenting the community |
| 23:58.47 | kergoth | that community could use a good fragmentation, imo |
| 23:58.49 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:59.18 | AnduinLothar | obtw. been working on this, got some feedback on it from a couple peeps. http://www.wowwiki.com/TOC_format#Commonly_Recognized_X-.3Cdata.3E_Tags |
