| 00:00.00 | AnduinLothar | just trying somethign diff |
| 00:00.25 | Cidan | I'd rather have int than str |
| 00:01.06 | AnduinLothar | cept it's more effecting for str |
| 00:01.18 | AnduinLothar | cause i have like 540 str and 275 int |
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| 00:43.19 | zenzelezz | I'm glad the net is fast these days, cause that was 1.2 GB of disappointing video... BT presented as a videogame, with dubious sense of humor |
| 00:43.26 | Thrae | Man, I want to buy a new video card, but I don't actually play any games worth buying a new video card. |
| 00:43.51 | Cidan | whew, lord knows I need an upgrade like, every 8 months |
| 00:43.57 | zenzelezz | think of how much crisper your porn may look on a new card Thrae |
| 00:44.23 | AnduinLothar | lol, if that were true they'd be more expensive |
| 00:44.30 | Thrae | zenzelezz: My current card goes to the max resolution of my monitor anyway -- I can see the ovaries |
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| 00:44.53 | Thrae | 2000x2000 something. |
| 00:45.09 | Thrae | I also need a quad core processor. This is essential to all the web surfing and remote coding I do. |
| 00:45.18 | zenzelezz | 2084x1532 or something like that, isn't it? Some peculiar number anyhow |
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| 00:48.13 | Thunder_Child | i need to work on my cooling system |
| 00:48.34 | Thunder_Child | it's anywhere between 95-110 in my room |
| 00:48.41 | Thunder_Child | 95-100* |
| 00:49.00 | zenzelezz | Fahrenheit I assume |
| 00:49.09 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 00:49.27 | Thunder_Child | behind my computer it's prolly toping aout at 115 |
| 00:49.37 | Thunder_Child | out* |
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| 00:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz, good to hear.. was it just gold, or gold + items? |
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| 01:04.33 | Cidan | http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/gheemaker/stumble/immigrant3sy.jpg |
| 01:10.35 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: just gold |
| 01:10.49 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz, blah, want to test it with items. Meh, oh well |
| 01:13.24 | Wobwork | http://meghanohara.org/wordpress/ |
| 01:13.25 | Wobwork | win |
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| 03:09.08 | Corrodias | brb: rebooting |
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| 03:17.55 | clad|away | ~inigo |
| 03:17.55 | purl | Fezzik, tear his arms off. |
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| 03:43.11 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... this is either an elaborate troll or a real 16 year old... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371548940&sid=1 |
| 03:43.16 | Kaydeethree | I'm really having a hard time deciding |
| 03:43.55 | |Jelly| | Try sub-12 |
| 03:44.05 | Kaydeethree | the guy claims he's a sophomore |
| 03:44.39 | WobWork | It's a troll |
| 03:45.45 | |Jelly| | When I was 14, I said I was 19 online too. :\ |
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| 03:55.45 | Cidan | As did I |
| 03:55.51 | Cidan | I was also rich, etc, etc. |
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| 03:58.03 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.03 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:58.03 | Cidan | Truly shocked, I am. |
| 03:58.05 | Cidan | rofl |
| 03:58.07 | Cidan | ahhaha |
| 03:58.11 | Cidan | That's gold right there. |
| 03:58.43 | Cidan | AHAH |
| 03:58.43 | Cidan | " |
| 03:58.43 | Cidan | Yeah, well, my milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. |
| 03:58.45 | Cidan | " |
| 03:58.52 | Shirik | someone please +b Cidan |
| 03:59.00 | Shirik | he needs to stop talking |
| 03:59.08 | Cidan | :( |
| 03:59.12 | Kaydeethree | just run to his house and smack him? |
| 03:59.16 | Cidan | He's in FL now |
| 04:01.12 | Shirik | 14(0011:0011:0014) 11-› Day changed to Monday 11(3 Sep 200711) |
| 04:01.15 | Shirik | happy labor day :D |
| 04:01.24 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.24 | Cidan | i sit in the back i play psp go the internetz when there hwk i copy off a kid or cheat off a test never get caught |
| 04:01.24 | Cidan | and when it comes to report copy pasta mess up the puncation so i get a b and teacher dont thing i plagerize |
| 04:01.26 | Shirik | another holiday which was invented just to get days off |
| 04:01.27 | Cidan | ... |
| 04:01.30 | Cidan | We're doomed. |
| 04:02.36 | Shirik | And I am officially done with moving |
| 04:02.38 | Shirik | whooo |
| 04:02.51 | Cidan | Woo? |
| 04:03.35 | Shirik | no, whooo |
| 04:04.02 | Shirik | night clad|sleep |
| 04:04.18 | clad|sleep | night |
| 04:04.33 | Cidan | nini clad|sleep |
| 04:04.36 | Cidan | Sleep... tight. |
| 04:05.56 | Shirik | right! On to error handler! |
| 04:06.49 | Shirik | oops |
| 04:07.20 | Cidan | oops, "I fogot to unpack something" or oops, "I deleted the SVN?" |
| 04:07.46 | Shirik | more like |
| 04:07.58 | Shirik | "Oops, putting an error in Conspiracy:Init() pisses the hell out of a lot of stuff" |
| 04:10.28 | Tem | yay for entire codepaths going down the pooper when you error at the begining |
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| 04:14.06 | Shirik | Well see, Conspiracy has a guard against something like that; when a command fails (Init is a command) it tries to continue |
| 04:14.22 | Tem | safecall? |
| 04:14.22 | Shirik | unfortunately when you fail to init the kernel.... bad things happen to stuff that tries to use it |
| 04:14.25 | Shirik | i.e., everything |
| 04:14.37 | Tem | the kernel? |
| 04:14.48 | Shirik | VFL called it the kernel so I adopted the name |
| 04:14.51 | Shirik | or RDX |
| 04:14.52 | Shirik | one of the two |
| 04:15.10 | Shirik | the root that manages everything and passes out everything, etc. |
| 04:15.13 | Tem | k, just making sure you're not writing an OS inside of wow |
| 04:15.24 | Shirik | one could argue Conspiracy's root is an OS |
| 04:15.29 | Shirik | then again, so is Fubar |
| 04:15.52 | Shirik | I think |
| 04:15.56 | Shirik | never actually looked at the code |
| 04:16.18 | norgs | Hell any system that operates is an operating system |
| 04:16.40 | Tem | I see what you did there |
| 04:16.43 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:18.15 | Cidan | Ah, the good old days. |
| 04:18.46 | WobWork | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1383-Zero-Punctuation-Console-Rundown |
| 04:18.52 | WobWork | Zero Punctuation is great |
| 04:19.02 | Valle | Shirik : any ETA of Conspiracy beta ? |
| 04:19.17 | Shirik | not really |
| 04:19.27 | Shirik | now that I can actually pick up coding again it should go a bit faster |
| 04:20.28 | Thunder_Child | lol, a quote from a show i am watching "He is the bastard son of clint eastwood and yoda" |
| 04:20.33 | Valle | tell me when you need a test monkey ) |
| 04:20.41 | Cidan | ROFL |
| 04:20.41 | Shirik | will do :) |
| 04:20.46 | Shirik | you can hang out in #conspiracy if you want |
| 04:20.48 | Cidan | Holy CRAP |
| 04:20.50 | Cidan | that is funny. |
| 04:21.10 | Shirik | that way (1) you see where we are exactly, i.e., what commits are being made, and (2) I'll remember to tell you :) |
| 04:21.28 | Valle | already there ) |
| 04:21.38 | Thunder_Child | they were talking about a sniper legend |
| 04:21.48 | Kaydeethree | any other forum regulars on right now? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371540836&sid=1#4 |
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| 04:23.28 | Cairenn | god, don't we just wish! |
| 04:23.37 | Cidan | Oh christ |
| 04:23.41 | Cidan | that is, the best, ever. |
| 04:24.09 | Cairenn | I dunno, I thought the guy telling me to L2ReadingComprehension was pretty good |
| 04:29.54 | Tem | sigh |
| 04:30.08 | Tem | explorer crashed |
| 04:30.13 | Tem | and now it can't find itunes |
| 04:30.24 | Tem | but I clearly hear it still playing music... |
| 04:30.47 | Tem | but... windows will not acknowledge that it's even there |
| 04:30.52 | Kaydeethree | oh, I love when that happens, no matter the OS. |
| 04:30.58 | Kaydeethree | restarting iTunes doesn't help? |
| 04:31.02 | Tem | possibly |
| 04:31.08 | Tem | I haven't tried yet |
| 04:31.22 | Tem | I just felt the need to share my bizarre occurance first |
| 04:31.39 | Thunder_Child | is it under processes in task manager? |
| 04:31.46 | Tem | yeah |
| 04:31.56 | Thunder_Child | end the process then |
| 04:31.59 | Tem | no! |
| 04:32.05 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 04:32.05 | Tem | my music would stop playing! |
| 04:32.11 | Thunder_Child | then start it again |
| 04:32.12 | Tem | hah, it didn't even skip a beat. |
| 04:32.36 | Tem | starting a new instance made windows recognize it |
| 04:33.37 | Tem | WobWork, sigh |
| 04:33.58 | Tem | WobWork, that guy furthers the steriotype that people from louisiana are inbreeding rednecks |
| 04:36.39 | WobWork | Tem, which one? |
| 04:36.52 | Tem | zero punctuation |
| 04:37.09 | WobWork | I thought he was british =P |
| 04:37.14 | Cairenn | you mean they aren't? |
| 04:38.09 | Tem | no, shift that steriotype over about 2 hundred miles and you're okay |
| 04:38.17 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:38.26 | Tem | because people mississppi really ARE a bunch of inbred red-necks |
| 04:38.34 | Tem | (/me jabs at Kaelten) |
| 04:38.37 | Kaydeethree | meh, alabamans are the rednecks |
| 04:38.42 | Kaydeethree | <-- georgian |
| 04:38.44 | WobWork | I must have missed that comparison |
| 04:38.59 | Tem | WobWork, it's in the first 30 seconds |
| 04:39.08 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:39.10 | Cairenn | imnsho, you are ALL a bunch of rednecks |
| 04:39.26 | Kaelten | I only lived there for a few months |
| 04:39.32 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:40.15 | Cairenn | oh come on Kael, we all know you liked it, just go ahead and admit it |
| 04:40.19 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.10 | Tem | I will go on record saying that the mall in Mobile is the shittiest mall that I've ever had the displeasure of trying to find something to eat at |
| 04:41.35 | Tem | (and I, apparently, also went on record using extremely poor grammar) |
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| 04:43.35 | TrixIsOwned | So, my ui fails :( |
| 04:43.41 | Cidan | I'm sorry to hear that. |
| 04:43.47 | Cidan | Perhaps you should l2code? |
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| 04:44.33 | Cidan | :D |
| 04:44.38 | Cairenn | oh baby, do it again! |
| 04:45.13 | TrixIsOwned | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/g3nam/chris/WoW/WoWScrnShot_082707_205513.jpg ew indeed? :( |
| 04:45.24 | Shirik | so.... since when do warlocks have frostbolt? |
| 04:46.39 | Tem | that's a mage |
| 04:46.49 | Tem | all of those spells are mage spells |
| 04:46.53 | TrixIsOwned | :< |
| 04:47.14 | Tem | it also helps that it says "23 mage troll" at the top |
| 04:47.30 | Tem | and theres the fact that he's standing next to the mage trainer in TB |
| 04:47.31 | WobWork | http://tips4mac.blogspot.com/2007/09/flight-simulator-from-google.html |
| 04:48.48 | Tem | but... actually |
| 04:48.55 | Tem | I thought TB didn't have mage trainers |
| 04:49.00 | Tem | (except for a portal trainer) |
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| 04:49.06 | WobWork | downstairs? |
| 04:49.11 | WobWork | in the caves |
| 04:49.13 | Cairenn | yeah, in the caves |
| 04:49.16 | Cairenn | what he said |
| 04:49.25 | Tem | They'd definitely be in the caves |
| 04:49.43 | Tem | oh, is it a rogue trainer that TB doesn't have, maybe? |
| 04:50.00 | WobWork | =( |
| 04:50.02 | WobWork | WTB tauren rogue |
| 04:50.20 | Thunder_Child | FTH my ass |
| 04:51.10 | Shirik | Tem: That was definitely a warlock |
| 04:51.17 | Shirik | Let me quote you my combat log |
| 04:51.35 | Shirik | Rincewinds's Death Coil fails. You are immune. |
| 04:51.50 | Cairenn | lol, we thought you were talking about the SS |
| 04:51.52 | Shirik | Rincewinds's Frostbolt hits you for 1037 Frost damage |
| 04:51.54 | Tem | Six Demon Bag |
| 04:52.07 | Shirik | hm |
| 04:52.17 | Tem | it does pyroblast, frostbolt, summon fel puppy |
| 04:52.24 | Shirik | instant cast? |
| 04:52.27 | Tem | I don't remember what else |
| 04:52.30 | Tem | yes, instant cast |
| 04:52.32 | Shirik | wow |
| 04:52.35 | Shirik | and where do you pick this up? |
| 04:52.43 | Tem | world drop trinket |
| 04:52.47 | Shirik | that's a bit over the top really |
| 04:52.48 | Tem | from a long time ago |
| 04:52.52 | Tem | 30m cooldown |
| 04:52.54 | Shirik | lucky it didn't crit, really |
| 04:53.04 | Shirik | I still died 5 miles up in the air |
| 04:53.13 | Tem | I'm surprized it hit that hard, tbh |
| 04:53.26 | Tem | 1k damage was HUGE back in the day |
| 04:53.37 | Tem | maybe it benefits from +damage |
| 04:54.12 | Shirik | the guy only has 600 |
| 04:54.20 | Shirik | eh, I guess |
| 04:54.26 | Shirik | it must get 100% +damage then probbly |
| 04:54.29 | Tem | oh shit |
| 04:54.35 | Tem | they changed the cooldown on it |
| 04:54.36 | Tem | 3m |
| 04:54.40 | Shirik | oh what the hehll |
| 04:54.50 | Shirik | 100% +damage, 3m cooldown |
| 04:55.01 | Tem | if that's correct, it needs serious nerfage |
| 04:55.53 | Tem | The item will no longer be affected by bonus spell damage as of patch 2.2.0. |
| 04:56.22 | Shirik | ah |
| 04:56.48 | Shirik | that's a lot better |
| 04:58.49 | Tem | phew, for a minute I couldn't find mine |
| 04:58.54 | Tem | I thought I had trashed it back in the day |
| 04:59.12 | Cidan | is there a way to draw a border on a frame "outward" and not inward? |
| 04:59.31 | Tem | what do you mean? |
| 04:59.35 | Cidan | Hmm |
| 04:59.48 | Cidan | border art is drawn from the edge->inward |
| 04:59.57 | Cidan | taking up some slight space |
| 05:00.23 | Cidan | is there a way to either offset the border art it self outward some more, or reverse the way it draws? |
| 05:01.26 | Cidan | I'll take that as a no. |
| 05:01.32 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:02.09 | Shirik | local oldFSW = frame.SetWidth; frame.SetWidth = function(self, w) oldFSW(self, w+5); end |
| 05:02.10 | Shirik | whoo |
| 05:03.13 | Cidan | without affecting the frame width or height it self. |
| 05:03.21 | Cidan | I just need to affect the art |
| 05:05.12 | Tem | Shirik, haha this is awesome |
| 05:05.16 | Tem | I love this trinket |
| 05:05.33 | Shirik | That warlock seriously made me give up on getting revered today |
| 05:05.37 | Shirik | that's how OP it is :P |
| 05:05.40 | Tem | I keep getting chainlighting |
| 05:05.53 | Shirik | hey yo Cidan! |
| 05:05.57 | Cidan | sup |
| 05:05.58 | Shirik | Go kick your server |
| 05:06.05 | Shirik | Unable to connect to database server |
| 05:06.08 | Cidan | uh |
| 05:06.15 | Cidan | shoopdawhoop? |
| 05:06.23 | Shirik | i.e., yo boxes be slackin |
| 05:06.28 | Shirik | and I don't mean slackware or some crap |
| 05:06.28 | Cidan | nope |
| 05:06.29 | Cidan | it's up. |
| 05:06.42 | Shirik | you kicked it |
| 05:06.44 | Shirik | now it works |
| 05:06.45 | Tem | imma chargin ma lazer |
| 05:07.00 | Cidan | You just fail, that is all. |
| 05:07.54 | Cidan | now leave me alone |
| 05:07.59 | Cidan | working on scrollbar art |
| 05:08.07 | Cidan | so we have some decent looking scroll frames |
| 05:08.18 | Shirik | I do not see these scroll frames! |
| 05:08.24 | Shirik | and it's really sad I just tried to type /r into irc |
| 05:08.45 | Cidan | that's because I haven't commited the code |
| 05:08.51 | Cairenn | want to know how often I hit [enter] before starting to type a message in here? |
| 05:09.03 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:09.27 | Shirik | my old IRC client would send a blank message |
| 05:09.34 | Shirik | that was annoying |
| 05:10.12 | Shirik | ~botmail for Cairenn boo |
| 05:10.24 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 05:13.07 | Shirik | good morning Iriel |
| 05:13.31 | Iriel | Evening -- finally got around to watching 300.. good stuff. |
| 05:18.24 | Guillotine | I just watched it for the first time yesterday actually |
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| 06:00.52 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know of an AddOn that helps with the Ogri'La dailes? |
| 06:01.15 | WobWork | Ogr'Lazy |
| 06:01.24 | WobWork | insert an i in there somewhere |
| 06:01.32 | Mike-N-Go | I searched for that |
| 06:01.55 | Mike-N-Go | Must have mispeslled |
| 06:01.57 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks. |
| 06:02.39 | Guillotine | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7774/ |
| 06:02.43 | Guillotine | is the link to it |
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| 06:10.38 | WobWork | oh man |
| 06:10.39 | WobWork | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,295481,00.html |
| 06:10.51 | WobWork | chupacabra |
| 06:11.28 | Guillotine | yah, I saw that on my wii news >.> |
| 06:11.47 | Guillotine | its probably just some poor run over dried up dog |
| 06:14.30 | ckknight | lol, that's a dog |
| 06:14.49 | ckknight | chupacabras don't even look like that |
| 06:15.02 | ckknight | chupacabras have big black eyes and a lizard-like skin |
| 06:16.16 | WobWork | ck breeds them |
| 06:16.22 | WobWork | and releases them into the wild |
| 06:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=170145277055&Category=4596 |
| 06:17.20 | ScytheBlade1 | 70 warrior/pally, T5 on both, flying epics, the works.. $3600 USD, 25 bids |
| 06:17.50 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 06:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | He even properly listed the auction |
| 06:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | "Now, the good stuff so my listing doesn?t get pulled. (lol)" |
| 06:18.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That just might work |
| 06:20.43 | nevcairiel | but man wtf, who pays 3.6k for a fucking account? |
| 06:20.49 | ScytheBlade1 | No kidding. |
| 06:21.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently eBay user e***u does |
| 06:21.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 06:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, the dude has it all |
| 06:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | All of the ORIGINAL epic mounts |
| 06:22.19 | nevcairiel | that *** are masking the real name no? when i look at the bidding history, its all people with *** |
| 06:22.19 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 06:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, the ones that look like the 60% mounts, but are actually 100% |
| 06:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That bid history is nuts |
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| 06:24.01 | Guillotine | you kind of have to wonder if that account is real. and it would be SO easy to track it and ban it on blizz's part. how many accounts are there with a full tier 5 warr and pally along with the phoenix mount |
| 06:24.29 | WobWork | that's besides the point =) |
| 06:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It'd take them a fraction of a second to find it, I'm sure |
| 06:24.41 | WobWork | they can still ban the account |
| 06:24.47 | WobWork | but if he sells if first... |
| 06:24.50 | WobWork | he gets the money =) |
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| 06:25.09 | WobWork | in fact, he can probably get the money after the ban |
| 06:25.10 | nevcairiel | he even wrote that once he has the money, he could even report it to blizz himself :P |
| 06:25.18 | ScytheBlade1 | He covered his bases in the disclaimer |
| 06:25.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to wonder if he covered them well enough, and how section 3B of the EULA will apply |
| 06:27.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho sleep |
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| 09:55.55 | [Ammo] | probably yeah |
| 09:56.15 | [Ammo] | the red beam gives a good enough buff |
| 09:56.20 | Ominous_ | kk |
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| 14:52.34 | Lopeppeppy | Someone besides me has a case of the Monday's, that's good. |
| 14:53.06 | Shirik | this is only a fake monday |
| 14:53.21 | Lopeppeppy | Not here, Shirik, it's the full-blown real-deal crash-and-burn sort of Monday. |
| 14:53.32 | Shirik | sucks to be you :D |
| 14:54.07 | Lopeppeppy | Once the "hangover" wears off and I wake up, I can fix it a bit. :) |
| 14:56.18 | Kirkburn|afk | >< |
| 14:56.53 | Lopeppeppy | Long LARP weekend has a killer after-burn. |
| 15:00.55 | Industrial | so I saw half of Transformers |
| 15:01.03 | Industrial | btw its far too fast paced in the story evolving |
| 15:01.08 | Industrial | and too zoomed in on the action |
| 15:01.14 | Industrial | screen shaking and shit |
| 15:01.21 | Industrial | I want a beautiful overview. |
| 15:01.49 | Industrial | anyway, |
| 15:01.49 | Industrial | I could predict the rest of the movie |
| 15:01.49 | Industrial | I skipped through the last action bit |
| 15:01.49 | Industrial | they failed, imo :( |
| 15:01.52 | Industrial | story wise |
| 15:02.46 | Lopeppeppy | I never did grow up with Transformers, so I went to it as a sci-fi-action flick. It does okay in that department, but I have no opinion on the storyline. |
| 15:04.57 | Industrial | from the point where they enter the dam I was done with it |
| 15:04.57 | Industrial | :P |
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| 15:07.21 | Industrial | also, the "nerd" dide with his computer.. |
| 15:07.36 | Industrial | i know its a movie but come ON |
| 15:08.01 | Industrial | for ONCE be real with the computer screens |
| 15:08.21 | Industrial | without all the "top secret network OS" with pretty WARNING screen etc |
| 15:08.26 | Industrial | too corny :( that was 1997 |
| 15:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | They never do. |
| 15:08.38 | Industrial | er, yes they do |
| 15:08.40 | Industrial | sec |
| 15:08.52 | Industrial | oh - I deleted the movie alreay :p |
| 15:10.26 | Shirik | No |
| 15:10.30 | Shirik | The matrix was pretty realistic |
| 15:11.30 | Shirik | Hell they even used nmap |
| 15:11.59 | Lopeppeppy | Since I don't know what that might be, the average geek just dismisses a computer shown in a movie as a prop, and not a reality. |
| 15:12.00 | Industrial | when they enter section 7 in transformers |
| 15:12.07 | Industrial | it gave me a red alert 2 feeling |
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| 15:12.10 | Industrial | ;p |
| 15:12.46 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: yes, but this is 2007 and if you are going to invest so much money in a movie about robots, please get it right :\ |
| 15:13.07 | Punkie` | Industrial: Have you watched Die Hard 4.0? ;) |
| 15:13.56 | Lopeppeppy | "Getting it right" is something that the movie industry places very little emphasis on, so long as they can "get it approximate". They rely on the audience to suspend their disbelief regarding details in order to focus on the storyline and imagery. |
| 15:15.12 | zenzelezz | TV series' computer systems make me QQ inside |
| 15:15.12 | Industrial | yeah, even worse. |
| 15:15.12 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: LOTR got it right. |
| 15:15.12 | zenzelezz | like your bullet/fingerprint/whatever matching system would download every picture to display before comparing |
| 15:15.12 | Industrial | zenzelezz: and zooming in on a pixelated screen |
| 15:15.12 | Industrial | "zoom in there" |
| 15:15.13 | Industrial | *strangle* |
| 15:15.25 | zenzelezz | "hang on, I'll enhance it" |
| 15:15.39 | Lopeppeppy | LotR is high fantasy. What's to not get "right" when it's entirely make-believe? There wasn't a single computer in that movie. |
| 15:15.54 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 15:16.31 | Industrial | Lopeppeppy: but there was nothing wrong with the movie - they put alot.. a LOT of attention towards detail. |
| 15:17.25 | Lopeppeppy | It was an entirely different kind of movie, with entirely different non-modern detail. But I still hear people pick fun at the way the hobbit houses were thatched. |
| 15:17.40 | Industrial | okay, maybe not the best comparison |
| 15:18.11 | Industrial | I dont mind these kind of things with old movies - because they are old. |
| 15:21.46 | Lopeppeppy | For every movie, there is a type of geek that can pick apart the details and quibble. The movie makers cannot win. All they can do is hope for the audience to employ enough suspension of disbelief that the details can be seen as approximations and props, not reality. |
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| 15:21.46 | Industrial | They have the most beautiful bot movement and undoubtedly put alot of money into the movie |
| 15:21.48 | Industrial | and then they go all "oh noes a super virus look our screens are scrambled" |
| 15:21.48 | Industrial | :| |
| 15:21.48 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 15:21.48 | Punkie` | those movies can be annoying but i dont think about it and just watch the film |
| 15:21.48 | Punkie` | like when i watched die hard 4.0 :D |
| 15:22.31 | Punkie` | and um, Deja Vu :p |
| 15:22.48 | Industrial | next up, 300! |
| 15:23.17 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes, a movie has to be appreciated for being the genre it is, without choking on the discrepancies and details. I'm that way about most monster movies... just enjoy the monster eating face, not worry about why the lights never work. |
| 15:27.57 | Maldivia | Industrial, one word: Gibson |
| 15:30.23 | Shirik | Interesting article in the LA times: |
| 15:30.26 | Industrial | Maldivia: eh? |
| 15:30.37 | Shirik | American society has evolved since the advancement of women's rights in the 1960s. But the world of video gaming has been largely stuck in a time warp with its frat house culture of sexual insults and put-downs. |
| 15:30.43 | Shirik | For some women, the minute they open their mouths, they get trash-talked or hit on or both," Phillips said. |
| 15:30.48 | Shirik | http://www.guardianhq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13256&st=0&#entry210317 |
| 15:32.26 | Maldivia | Industrial: from the movie "Hackers" |
| 15:34.34 | Cairenn|afk | Lopeppeppy: awww, thank you sweetie |
| 15:44.36 | Cidan | I think the more you foster the feelings and/or uniqueness of a single class of people, the more pronounced and defined that class becomes in its' "negative" light. |
| 15:44.45 | Cidan | That's just me though, and I'm not just talking about women. |
| 15:48.47 | Lopeppeppy | Love-ya, love-ya, Cairenn. *hugs* |
| 15:48.47 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
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| 15:49.37 | Cairenn|afk | (I realize I might have been wrong and presumptuous, but given that I was the only one that was "insulted" in the thread, I presumed your post was in my defense) |
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| 15:56.55 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. He was mean to you, that's just rude. *hug* |
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| 15:57.17 | Punkie` | I don't want to be too nosey but which thread? :p |
| 15:57.20 | Lopeppeppy | People have no manners these days. You can say "I think you missed the point" without being a jerk. It's entirely possible. |
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| 16:18.34 | Chaotic_D | Hello. |
| 16:19.21 | Chaotic_D | I think I'm going to make a female Gnome mage. I wonder what I should name her, or make her look like... |
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| 16:23.05 | Chaotic_D | I don't know what theme to go with. probably something not serious. |
| 16:24.24 | Chaotic_D | hrm... is there a shorter word for "explosive flatulence"? |
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| 16:25.33 | Rallion | my femal gnome mage is just named "Eyce" |
| 16:26.23 | Chaotic_D | I bet "TheFonz" is taken. |
| 16:26.24 | Chaotic_D | I'd have to make that a male Gnome. ...I guess. |
| 16:27.30 | Chaotic_D | ok, names can be up to 12 characters long. |
| 16:28.33 | Chaotic_D | I want to mix the concept of explosive flatulence with cute, as in "going to go powder my nose *fart*" |
| 16:29.13 | Chaotic_D | thesaurus fails me with "flatulence". apparently it's only slang. |
| 16:32.04 | Chaotic_D | my god. look at all the gnomes named "cottoncandy" |
| 16:32.16 | Chaotic_D | it's the pink hair, isn't it. |
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| 16:39.42 | Chaotic_D | how can NO ONE have named their character boomcandy or candyboom? hrm. I'm surprised only one of the five pages for cherrybomb is for gnomes. |
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| 16:53.11 | cogwheel | alliance has been 1 for 12 in AB and I need 30 marks :( |
| 16:53.51 | |Jelly| | Sounds like my server except horde. |
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| 16:56.44 | Chaotic_D | I hate alliance/horde ratios. |
| 16:57.20 | |Jelly| | Me too. |
| 16:57.56 | Chaotic_D | I mean... if you play horde, do you purposely go to a server with a closer ratio? because that just promotes leaving those servers with poor ratios to stay that way. |
| 16:57.56 | Chaotic_D | oh well. there's limited Horde numbers. |
| 16:58.49 | Chaotic_D | probably better to have a few servers with good Horde populations than make them crappy on all servers. |
| 17:00.08 | |Jelly| | WTB server merge |
| 17:01.03 | Chaotic_D | does WTB mean something other than "wanted to buy"? |
| 17:02.21 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 17:03.01 | Chaotic_D | he wants to buy a server merge? |
| 17:03.10 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:03.14 | |Jelly| | Was it that cryptic? |
| 17:03.15 | Punkie` | its a figure of speech |
| 17:03.41 | Punkie` | WTB is used like 'I want (a)' |
| 17:03.59 | Chaotic_D | ... oh. I've never heard it used like that. |
| 17:04.12 | Punkie` | I have, many times |
| 17:04.20 | nevcairiel | i use it like always |
| 17:04.59 | nevcairiel | wtb dead Punkie` |
| 17:05.02 | nevcairiel | see? there |
| 17:05.20 | Punkie` | :( |
| 17:06.46 | |Jelly| | ~lart Shirik |
| 17:06.46 | purl | executes killall -KILL Shirik |
| 17:10.44 | Shirik | =( |
| 17:10.48 | Shirik | What did I do! |
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| 17:13.18 | |Jelly| | Nothing. I just missed ya is all. |
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| 17:21.36 | cogwheel | oh man... we almost insta-won that time |
| 17:23.48 | cogwheel | they had a bot on their side though... just ran around the map not fighting |
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| 18:44.28 | Tem | purl, bigger and better idiots is Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. |
| 18:44.28 | purl | Tem: okay |
| 18:44.36 | Tem | ~bigger and better idiots |
| 18:44.37 | purl | bigger and better idiots is, like, Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. |
| 18:44.43 | Shirik | you want <reply> |
| 18:44.58 | amro | no purl, bigger and better idiots is <reply>Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. |
| 18:45.03 | amro | er |
| 18:45.10 | amro | purl no, bigger and better idiots is <reply>Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. |
| 18:45.11 | purl | okay, amro |
| 18:45.21 | Tem | ~bigger and better idiots |
| 18:45.21 | purl | Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. |
| 18:45.45 | Tem | purl no, bigger and better idiots is <reply>"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook |
| 18:45.46 | purl | okay, Tem |
| 18:45.51 | Tem | ~bigger and better idiots |
| 18:45.52 | purl | "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook |
| 18:45.56 | Tem | good, it fits |
| 18:46.19 | Kalroth | What do you get if both the programmer and the end user is an idiot?! |
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| 18:46.36 | Rallion | hehe |
| 18:48.18 | Shirik | I have a good answer for that |
| 18:48.22 | Shirik | but people would get mad at me :P |
| 18:48.26 | Rallion | I was going to say you get the world as we know it :P |
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| 18:48.50 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 18:49.23 | amro | hey |
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| 19:12.34 | Industrial | Question: I want to check if arguments are what I expect them to be, and throw sensible error otherwise. I have never done error reporting with addons because I think the call stack is enough (for developers) to see what happens, but it might be nice. What would be the best approach for this - and do you have example code? |
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| 19:13.31 | cogwheel | Industrial: i believe Dongle has an argcheck function |
| 19:13.38 | cogwheel | (internal) |
| 19:14.07 | art3mis | any of you played with SkyOS? |
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| 19:14.35 | art3mis | near as i can tell it's a commercial nix thingy |
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| 19:18.44 | Industrial | art3mis: I haven't but from the tour it seems pretty impressive |
| 19:18.56 | Industrial | its instant-fail though if I have to pay for it. |
| 19:19.33 | Industrial | I'd rather enjoy a product thats open source and developed by less people in more time, then something I have to pay for because they put a team of devs on it. |
| 19:20.51 | amro | "As of 2007, SkyOS has limited hardware support due to a lack of available device drivers." |
| 19:20.53 | amro | I'll pass |
| 19:20.59 | nevcairiel | hah |
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| 19:23.22 | amro | lol "The C++ API: contains many functionalities that were determined from real world usage, for programming an application in skyos. for example: [to be completed by a more knowledgeable programmer]" |
| 19:23.24 | amro | from wikipedia |
| 19:25.13 | ckknight | hehe |
| 19:28.19 | krka | wtf O_o |
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| 19:39.16 | Shirik | amro: That's awesome |
| 19:40.03 | zenzelezz | I wonder when our TV channels will realise that American shows mocking Americans isn't fun... we want to do that ourselves |
| 19:41.12 | art3mis | yeah, it's a pay OS it seems, found it on torrent and usenet was curious if anyone had actually tried it |
| 19:41.30 | art3mis | the wierd thing is they've got wine in it |
| 19:41.52 | art3mis | i dont understand how companies are allowed to take open source and charge for it |
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| 19:42.39 | ergh99 | what is the PN of RTFPN? |
| 19:42.46 | zenzelezz | patch notes |
| 19:42.51 | ergh99 | ah, done and done. |
| 19:43.38 | ergh99 | so i was wondering if there's code out there that is intended to duplicate the table export functionality blizz uses for SavedVariables? |
| 19:45.10 | ergh99 | obviously, i can run the export to get the table into memory, but if i were to write something to load the data, massage it and save it back, would i have to write the export code myself? |
| 19:45.23 | ergh99 | i know the lua handbook has an export example and if need be, i'll start there since (i assume) blizz prevents circular references to keep the tables simple |
| 19:46.05 | Shirik | it also prevents function values and non-string/numerical/boolean keys |
| 19:47.55 | ergh99 | groovy. have you seen anything like the functionality i'm looking for? |
| 19:52.33 | ckknight | Shirik, tables should be fine, though, right? |
| 19:52.36 | Shirik | table values? |
| 19:52.43 | Shirik | table keys don't work, they're skipped |
| 19:53.20 | Iriel | Writing your own shouldn't really be very difficult |
| 19:53.52 | Shirik | it shouldn'tt |
| 19:53.58 | Shirik | since most people have to write a serializer for comms channel anyway |
| 19:54.02 | ergh99 | it just seems like code that would have been written a bunch of times already |
| 19:54.03 | Shirik | it's just encoding it differently |
| 19:54.05 | Iriel | The only 'fiddly' bits are: 1) Properly encoding strings 2) Not getting stuck on recursive tables 3) Writing mixed array/hash tables correctly |
| 19:54.34 | Iriel | Actually, writing any array style data properly |
| 19:54.35 | krka | i have a working serialier if anyone wants |
| 19:54.36 | Iriel | but that's a degenerate case of the mixed one |
| 19:54.47 | krka | handles all of iriels demands :P |
| 19:55.08 | ergh99 | if it really works, i'll take 2 krka :-P |
| 19:57.12 | krka | http://pastey.net/73348 |
| 19:57.19 | ergh99 | thx |
| 19:57.20 | krka | fairly simple too... just 200 loc |
| 20:00.21 | ergh99 | so if tableSerialize is the entry point, what's the 2nd function argument for? |
| 20:01.06 | ergh99 | nvm |
| 20:01.34 | krka | serialize / deserialize are the two functions you need to worry about :) |
| 20:01.42 | ergh99 | serialize is the main entry point? |
| 20:01.55 | ergh99 | yeah, little slow with lua code |
| 20:02.31 | ergh99 | i'm an eclipse spoiled java coder |
| 20:02.47 | krka | notice how simple deserialize is :) |
| 20:03.21 | krka | the serializer generates valid lua code |
| 20:03.22 | ergh99 | i wouldn't expect there to be a deserialize :-P |
| 20:03.26 | krka | well, it uses a minor hack to handle recursive tables |
| 20:03.31 | krka | otherwise it wouldnt need it |
| 20:04.20 | Shirik | !ap 1501 |
| 20:04.20 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1501 is, 2v2: 264, 3v3: 301, 5v5: 377 |
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| 20:06.39 | ergh99 | could you explain the first line of the getVars function? |
| 20:07.21 | krka | possibly |
| 20:07.21 | krka | ah |
| 20:07.21 | krka | it's equivalent to: |
| 20:07.21 | krka | if not t then t = {} end |
| 20:10.52 | krka | that is - if t isnt provided, create a new table and call it t |
| 20:10.52 | ergh99 | nil-case initializer? |
| 20:10.52 | krka | yes |
| 20:10.52 | ergh99 | crazy lua |
| 20:10.52 | krka | nah, it's cute |
| 20:10.52 | Industrial | lua is like playing with lego |
| 20:10.52 | Kaydeethree | both 4-year-olds and adults spend too much time doing it? |
| 20:10.52 | Industrial | its easy and fun |
| 20:11.55 | Kaydeethree | oh, wow. |
| 20:13.01 | Kaydeethree | the dsound fix got backported into fedora's build of wine |
| 20:13.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | welp |
| 20:13.02 | zenzelezz | but like with lego, don't chew on the pieces |
| 20:13.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm back from dragoncon, and i'm sore everywhere :[ |
| 20:13.02 | Kaydeethree | I really don't want to know... >.>; |
| 20:13.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | the idea of having a convention in 4 hotels connected with stairs is not fun |
| 20:13.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 20:13.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 |
| 20:13.06 | krka | i DO want to know |
| 20:13.30 | Kaydeethree | meh, that's why I go to awa, not d-con |
| 20:13.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | however i did get to see clint hackleman and some of the wowinsiders |
| 20:13.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to awa too, Kaydeethree |
| 20:13.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the wow panels were like, overflowing though |
| 20:14.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, some of them had over 800 people |
| 20:14.22 | Kaydeethree | eesh. actual blizzard reps? |
| 20:14.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 20:14.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | the meet and greet had probably 800 people |
| 20:14.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the fire marshall would only let like 300 in the room or something |
| 20:15.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | so they had a party in another room nearby and filled it even and had to turn a bunch of people away :o |
| 20:17.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | overall it was worth the 85 bucks :o |
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| 20:32.53 | Shirik | !ap 1510 |
| 20:32.54 | ThraeBot | Shirik: Arena points from a rating of 1510 is, 2v2: 270, 3v3: 309, 5v5: 386 |
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| 20:41.49 | Kaydeethree | ah, I love screwing with forum trolls and using words they've probably never heard of |
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| 20:44.16 | Sopoed | hi |
| 20:44.21 | Shirik | hi |
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| 20:46.12 | Sopoed | Alright, I have a small little question :) |
| 20:46.29 | Kaydeethree | ~asktoask |
| 20:46.29 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:46.29 | Sopoed | Where is the data file for auctioneer? The file that holds all of the scanned prices, items, etc...? |
| 20:46.35 | Kaydeethree | it's in your WTF folder |
| 20:46.40 | Sopoed | son of a.. |
| 20:46.50 | Kaydeethree | WoW/WTF/Account/<YourAccount>/SavedVariables/Auctioneer.lua |
| 20:48.56 | Sopoed | hrm, not there o.o |
| 20:49.47 | Shirik | does auctioneer do character-specific saving? |
| 20:49.54 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:49.58 | Sopoed | nope. |
| 20:50.02 | Kaydeethree | shouldn't. all of my chars on the server have the same info |
| 20:50.23 | Shirik | then you should either look harder or you never logged in with auctioneer enabled :P |
| 20:50.24 | sag_ich_nicht | someone recommend me good movies please :O |
| 20:50.29 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: wargames |
| 20:50.34 | Kaydeethree | but that's where it is for me. as long as you properly log out of wow the files will be written and saved |
| 20:51.27 | Sopoed | sag_ich_nicht- hrm, V for Vendetta |
| 20:51.31 | Sopoed | bah I found it |
| 20:51.44 | Sopoed | I went to server, then saved variables |
| 20:52.07 | Iriel | Are you using the standard auctioneer AddOn? |
| 20:52.08 | Shirik | wow what the heck? |
| 20:52.09 | Sopoed | er, server, then char name, then saved variables |
| 20:52.11 | Shirik | I have no WTF folder >.> |
| 20:52.14 | Sopoed | rofl |
| 20:52.17 | Sopoed | HAX! |
| 20:52.26 | Iriel | Because the normal one doesn't use per character saved variables |
| 20:52.29 | Sopoed | Iriel- yeah, I was just not paying attention.. |
| 20:52.43 | Sopoed | Iriel- I just misread where it was, I went to many folders down.. I found it. |
| 20:52.50 | Iriel | Ah, so you looked in the per char one.. got it 8-) |
| 20:53.46 | Shirik | this is awesome |
| 20:53.46 | Shirik | neither of my WoW installs have one >.> |
| 20:53.47 | Sopoed | yup :) |
| 20:53.47 | Kaydeethree | then they're saving your data via magic? |
| 20:53.47 | Iriel | Shirik: what OS are you on? |
| 20:53.47 | Sopoed | Shirik- This message will self destruct in 5 seconds. |
| 20:53.47 | Kaydeethree | sweet |
| 20:53.47 | Shirik | Iriel: Vista, so I understand why C: doesn't... but I'm not understanding why the one in D: doesn't |
| 20:53.57 | Shirik | it should have access there and shouldn't be virtualized |
| 20:54.00 | Iriel | Doesn't vista have some wierd overlayed filesystem thing for user files? |
| 20:54.08 | Shirik | for protected folders, yes |
| 20:54.21 | Shirik | but the D drive shouldn't have any folders to virtualize |
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| 20:54.35 | Shirik | and now it exists >.> |
| 20:54.39 | Shirik | I guess I just never ran the one on the d drive |
| 20:54.39 | Shirik | oops |
| 20:54.42 | Sopoed | IN reality, Vista does not have a weird overlay filesystem thing, that is the excuse they used for accidently releasing a demon into their OS, and now the demon is devouring all of their files. |
| 20:54.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kaydeethree, are you going to awa this year? :O |
| 20:55.10 | Shirik | I'm considering just adding a manifest to WoW.exe to request elevated permissions heh |
| 20:55.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | the one thing i prefer dragoncon over is 1) the dealers rooms have bootlegs, and 2) the bodypaint "costumes" that don't show up at AWA |
| 20:55.36 | Shirik | doesn't solve the problem that my SVN client won't checkout to the addons folder though :( |
| 20:57.01 | Kaydeethree | maybe. it's been going downhill the past few years, I'm still on the fence as to whether or not I'm gonna get a ticket |
| 20:57.59 | Sopoed | whats that Mr_Rabies2 !? Body paint costumes on chicks!? Where !? |
| 20:57.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | dragoncon :O |
| 20:58.31 | Sopoed | I am so going. |
| 20:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | at around 9:00 or so they break out the body paint and short skirts |
| 20:58.42 | Sopoed | Wheres it at? |
| 20:58.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | atlanta |
| 20:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just got back from a 3 day nerdfest |
| 20:59.03 | Kaydeethree | meh... better than the prosti-tots that show up for the "rave" nights |
| 21:00.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing compares to asking some guy in mage armor if he can conjure you some armor |
| 21:00.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | or a guy in dreadmist if he minds summoning my buddies for me |
| 21:00.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 21:00.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | water, not armor |
| 21:00.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | still tired ;[ |
| 21:00.13 | Kaydeethree | har |
| 21:01.49 | Sopoed | bah I am in texas.. |
| 21:01.58 | Sopoed | no dragoncon sex fest for me |
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| 21:03.09 | Sopoed | ...not that I am into sex with scantally clad underage females...wearing body paint and short skirts.. and stuff. |
| 21:03.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say the vast majority are of age |
| 21:03.47 | Kaydeethree | meh. that's a major improvement from awa |
| 21:04.07 | Sopoed | oh ok Mr_Rabies2 |
| 21:04.09 | Sopoed | ...wait |
| 21:04.11 | Sopoed | This is a trick |
| 21:04.22 | Sopoed | sure they are scantally clad, sure they are in body paint and short skirts.. |
| 21:04.26 | Sopoed | but there is a weight limit to that.. |
| 21:04.30 | Sopoed | are they *EXCEEDING* that limit!? |
| 21:05.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | some, yes |
| 21:06.04 | Sopoed | :( |
| 21:06.06 | Sopoed | " Your Server was trying to make me tell it my stuff. I tell it no server, no. But it still tell me to. Tell it to stop" |
| 21:06.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but again, the majority seem to know what they're doing |
| 21:06.14 | Sopoed | Sometimes.. my job is hillarious. |
| 21:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i feel sorry for some of them though |
| 21:06.56 | Sopoed | ^^That quote up there.. some guy/gal sent an email to us complaining of something (i have no clue what).. |
| 21:07.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | going to a convention wearing body paint and not much else is akin to wearing a suit made of steaks and jumping in a lion cage |
| 21:07.04 | Sopoed | Working in an abuse department.. |
| 21:07.12 | Sopoed | lol Mr_Rabies |
| 21:08.59 | bleeter | AnduinLothar: did someone killl datavertex? |
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| 21:09.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also took a picture of some furries and sent it to a friend without any solicitation |
| 21:09.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | so he's going to check his messages and see a bunch of furries |
| 21:11.21 | zenzelezz | this is why I don't keep friends |
| 21:16.19 | AnduinLothar | no idea bleeter |
| 21:17.06 | Sopoed | data vertex? |
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| 21:17.27 | Kaydeethree | oh bleeter, heh. the f7 wine maintainer backported one of the dsound fixes into wine-0.9.43-2.fc7 |
| 21:17.30 | AnduinLothar | cosmos irc server |
| 21:17.40 | Sopoed | ah |
| 21:17.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it for cosmos or is cosmos just on it, AnduinLothar? |
| 21:18.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i kinda just hang there for moral support on my desktop |
| 21:18.46 | Sopoed | I have 10 cobra scales, found a great spot to farm them |
| 21:18.56 | AnduinLothar | it's a private server that was first used for cosmos. the owner kfm used to work on cosmos WAY back. he had his private company game irc server there too till they got too big and moved here |
| 21:19.19 | bleeter | looks more like a DNS issue, resolution failure |
| 21:19.29 | sag_ich_nicht | someone tell me the name of that movie in a small town that has a rock in the middle of a river as central part of the plot, i can't remember the title, and googling doesn't help. at all. |
| 21:19.32 | Sopoed | makes sense. |
| 21:19.55 | Sopoed | uh.. sag_ich_nicht - could you give more information? Famous actors in it, um, another part of the plot? |
| 21:20.01 | Sopoed | did the rock have something to do with murders.. |
| 21:20.05 | Sopoed | did the rock do the people's eyebrow? |
| 21:20.19 | sag_ich_nicht | well, the main character vandalized a shop in the beginning of the movie |
| 21:20.45 | Sopoed | lol |
| 21:20.48 | Sopoed | you're not helping :P |
| 21:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah well i can't remember it anymore >< |
| 21:21.00 | Sopoed | no wonder you couldnt find it on google |
| 21:21.08 | Sopoed | google was like 'Dude.. I'm a search engine, not a magician.. |
| 21:21.51 | zenzelezz | old movie, new movie? |
| 21:21.57 | sag_ich_nicht | 90s movie |
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| 21:22.22 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.26 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 21:22.28 | cogwheel | >.> |
| 21:22.34 | sag_ich_nicht | main character is a teenager, the movie is a tragic comedy |
| 21:23.25 | Sopoed | Night at the Roxburies.. |
| 21:23.27 | Sopoed | er.. |
| 21:23.29 | Sopoed | whatever |
| 21:23.52 | Sopoed | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfu0xAkEVOQ |
| 21:28.40 | Industrial | HIDENSEEKFORTHELULZ http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3e123f3dbf982030c8091efb6d51be78.jpg |
| 21:29.06 | nevcairiel | Industrial: make that lul disappear, kthx |
| 21:29.39 | Sopoed | anyone know of a PHP class to parse JSON ? |
| 21:29.52 | Shirik | JSON? |
| 21:30.21 | Industrial | nevcairiel: no its too funny, because lul means dick in dutch |
| 21:30.22 | Sopoed | hehe yeah.. |
| 21:31.20 | Industrial | http://www.google.com/search?q=php+json |
| 21:31.20 | Industrial | first 10 entries |
| 21:31.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:31.20 | Sopoed | rofl |
| 21:31.21 | Sopoed | oh sweet |
| 21:31.21 | Sopoed | one sec.. |
| 21:32.17 | Industrial | http://code.google.com/p/wow-industrial/issues/list |
| 21:32.18 | Industrial | spam me with issues pls (real ones) |
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| 21:34.53 | Sopoed | issues for what? o.O |
| 21:35.20 | amro | his addons? |
| 21:37.37 | Shirik | ok, I'm going crazy |
| 21:37.38 | Shirik | isn't it UnitTarget() to get a unit's target? |
| 21:37.38 | Shirik | omg |
| 21:37.38 | Shirik | I'm a moron |
| 21:37.38 | Shirik | never mind |
| 21:37.38 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 21:37.38 | Shirik | brain fart be quiet >< |
| 21:37.38 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 21:38.36 | ergh99 | so a question that rattles around my brain whenever i consider writing an addon from scratch is...is there anyway to test it outside the client and a continual tab /rl tab sequence? |
| 21:38.48 | Shirik | not easily |
| 21:38.52 | ergh99 | kk |
| 21:38.58 | Shirik | for 99% of issues you'll just want to do it in game |
| 21:39.11 | Shirik | there are some random tools around that can help you with things like problems during startup, etc. |
| 21:39.14 | ergh99 | i suppose you can write unit test for modules that are strictly lua |
| 21:39.20 | Shirik | but they're a bit of a pain in the butt to use |
| 21:39.25 | Shirik | yeah |
| 21:39.34 | ergh99 | but for any client api calls, you have to be running the client. hrm |
| 21:39.52 | ergh99 | ah well. such is life |
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| 21:42.14 | ergh99 | are there any blizz community reps that handle ui/macro topics? |
| 21:42.14 | bleeter | there's the UI forum, where a couple of blues occasionally post |
| 21:42.15 | Shirik | in general you don't need one |
| 21:42.15 | Shirik | but they're around for the rare cases |
| 21:42.15 | ergh99 | hrm. i'm wonder if there's any use in going after the code blizz uses to serialize savedvariables |
| 21:42.32 | Shirik | I think that's handled C-side |
| 21:42.49 | ergh99 | arg! you have crushed my dreams, Shirik |
| 21:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 21:44.20 | sag_ich_nicht | how will the font system in conspiracy work? |
| 21:44.20 | bleeter | yeah, I'm pretty sure it's C side |
| 21:44.20 | bleeter | or C++, whichever the case may be ;) |
| 21:44.20 | Shirik | It's part of the theming, afaik |
| 21:44.21 | Shirik | but you'll have to ask Cidan |
| 21:44.22 | ergh99 | you obviously have more knowledge and experience in this area, Shirik, so that's the context in which i ask why you think it's handled in C code |
| 21:44.37 | Shirik | because it has to read the TOC file to figure out exactly what to serialize |
| 21:44.41 | Shirik | the Lua code never touches those files |
| 21:45.15 | zenzelezz | if I wasn't so lazy I'd wait for Conspiracy to be released and port it as ConspirACEy |
| 21:45.15 | bleeter | rofl |
| 21:45.16 | ergh99 | how do you know it doesn't touch the toc files? |
| 21:45.31 | Shirik | because I've read the code :P |
| 21:45.36 | ergh99 | oooo |
| 21:45.44 | cogwheel | anyone know of a bug in X-realm BG where an item looks legendary to people who inspect you? I have Mark V's throwing star (green) and people keep oogling over it... i eventually asked why and they said it looked yellow :| |
| 21:45.49 | Shirik | they have the same access we do, which includes not having access to the io library |
| 21:45.59 | Shirik | that proves that they must not be able to access external files from Lua just like we can't |
| 21:46.59 | ergh99 | is that code available somewhere? |
| 21:47.06 | Shirik | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 21:47.12 | Shirik | alternatively you can extract it yourself |
| 21:47.14 | Shirik | ~framexml |
| 21:47.15 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
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| 21:47.39 | Kaydeethree | who runs the wdn? I've got a bunch of diffs that are itching to get put up |
| 21:47.46 | ergh99 | ooh |
| 21:48.18 | ales|wow | I think that's Beladona. |
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| 21:49.42 | alestane | Iriel: Didn't see anything for this in the code, but thought I'd run it by the master... |
| 21:50.01 | alestane | I have this segment of code for a stateheader with a state driver. |
| 21:54.08 | alestane | The driver sets the header's 'state-page' attribute to a 1-10 number. That number then needs to become the header's state. |
| 21:54.09 | Corrodias | gimme da go'd! |
| 21:54.09 | zenzelezz | GO64 |
| 21:54.09 | alestane | Right now I have to do this with 10 different attributes...'statemap-page-1' = '*:1', 'statemap-page-2' = '*:2' etc. Any better way to do it? |
| 21:54.09 | Corrodias | well... |
| 21:54.11 | Corrodias | wait, you've got ''s around... |
| 21:54.11 | Corrodias | you can't assign one string to be equal to another |
| 21:54.40 | alestane | That's shorthand for <Attribute name="statemap-page-1" value="*:1" /> |
| 21:54.54 | Corrodias | oh, you're using xml stuff. i really can't help you there. |
| 21:55.40 | alestane | It's not a problem with Lua or XML syntax, it's how to set up attributes on Secure Templates for the desired result, which can be done on either. |
| 21:56.22 | Corrodias | sorry, dude, the only trick i know is for n=1,10 do _G["part"..n] = n end sort of thing |
| 21:56.32 | Shirik | heh |
| 21:57.41 | Corrodias | i'm not a wow addon developer, just some dude who picks up enough info to make minor modifications to addons he uses |
| 21:57.45 | alestane | Oh, and Shirik, you don't have to worry about me using "/" in asset path strings (at least most of the time)...what I'm usually doing is getting texture paths for spells etc. and then comparing them to known constants, so I have to use "\". |
| 21:58.14 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:44] <Shirik> but you'll have to ask Cidan <--no, i have to ask you, because if i ask cidan, he will flame me and ignore me |
| 21:58.31 | Shirik | haha |
| 21:58.42 | Shirik | well it's not done yet. When I understand how it works I'll let you know |
| 21:59.03 | sag_ich_nicht | because i dared suggest he could optionally get additional fonts with a simple call to SML so i don't have to fucking 10 MB of fonts TWICE into WoW. |
| 21:59.08 | sag_ich_nicht | +load |
| 21:59.40 | Sopoed | stupid PHP5 json parsing blah |
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| 22:25.08 | Iriel | ales|wow: Sorry for not responding earlier, the answer is $input |
| 22:25.15 | Iriel | ales|wow: "1-10:$input" |
| 22:25.45 | ales|wow | Is that new? I don't remember seeing that in the docs anywhere, but I could have missed it. |
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| 22:31.06 | ales|wow | Okay, it's buried in the code...don't think I would have found it on my own. Thanks! |
| 22:34.45 | Iriel | It /should/ be in the documentation up at the top of the file, also |
| 22:36.48 | ales|wow | I did a CTRL-F, got nothing but SecureState_ApplyRule. |
| 22:39.17 | Iriel | Hm, you're right.. sorry about that, oversight on my part |
| 22:40.51 | Corrodias | i need a better way to delete items than dragging them to an unoccupied space on the worldframe |
| 22:40.56 | Kaydeethree | wow... haven't listened to the chrono trigger soundtrack in too long. now I wanna play it again |
| 22:43.21 | Gnarfoz | it's known to do that to people, yea |
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| 22:45.23 | AnduinLothar | anyone know exactly what causes OnScrollRangeChanged? |
| 22:45.27 | AnduinLothar | for an EditBox |
| 22:45.40 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 22:45.41 | AnduinLothar | ScrollFrame |
| 22:51.24 | Iriel | Anything that causes the piece of the range that's visible, IIRC |
| 22:51.52 | AnduinLothar | only fires when the ScrollFrame is shown? |
| 22:53.04 | Iriel | I'm not sure if the various ScrollFrame Set methods make it fire |
| 22:53.37 | AnduinLothar | i can't seem to trigger it in the same code that shows it the first time |
| 22:53.47 | AnduinLothar | or even OnShow the first time |
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| 22:55.03 | Iriel | That'd make me think it's more related to re-evaluating the bounds of the region, i.e. only when it's actually scrolled. |
| 23:00.03 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and in case anyone missed it, if you want some delicious drama for dinner, scroll up a bit in #wowace |
| 23:00.06 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i go to bed |
| 23:00.08 | sag_ich_nicht | nn <3 |
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| 23:10.28 | Thunder_Child | WTB working AC |
| 23:14.40 | Thunder_Child | hahahaha http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/tfr/412065601.html |
| 23:15.13 | Sopoed | thats funny Thunder_Child - I want to buy a working AC too, stupid APt complex has the worst ac unit ever.. |
| 23:15.19 | Sopoed | its a simple 110 I believe.. |
| 23:15.26 | Sopoed | (like what you would plug a tv in to) |
| 23:15.56 | Thunder_Child | ours just gor installed in the house...turn it on...temp goes up 5 |
| 23:16.34 | Sopoed | HAHA |
| 23:17.17 | Corrodias | quick, recommend to me an equipment outfit changing addon other than itemrack. |
| 23:17.21 | Sopoed | that craigslist is funny |
| 23:17.47 | Kaydeethree | outfitter, wardrobe, the gnome* suite |
| 23:18.59 | Corrodias | thanks |
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| 23:38.15 | Corrodias | oh joy. simplemountequip is acting like it's not loading, only THIS time, it's not the fault of having a load-on-demand manager listed in the TOC file |
| 23:38.35 | Corrodias | ah, an error i didn't notice. i have messed up the syntax somewhere. |
| 23:42.48 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Corrodias |
| 23:42.49 | purl | Corrodias: Fail. |
| 23:58.53 | Corrodias | now i'm trying to get EasyDestroy running |
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