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| 00:07.44 | Corrodias | hmm... there's a new trick to the Rock minimap button |
| 00:07.58 | Cidan | yep |
| 00:08.08 | Cidan | delete the addon, :P |
| 00:08.34 | Corrodias | now, it doesn't load before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, so you can't :Hide it in a script that fires on that event... but now i see there's a configuration option to hide it! yay |
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| 00:14.06 | cogwheel | I just had a "Hey, what's this do?" moment... |
| 00:14.18 | Cidan | Finally, eh? |
| 00:14.26 | cogwheel | You know the big apexis monument in the middle of the "simon" games in blade's edge? |
| 00:14.30 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 00:14.32 | cogwheel | >.> |
| 00:14.40 | cogwheel | squished gnome |
| 00:15.41 | Fin | well at least you know what it does now, or one of the things at least |
| 00:15.51 | Fin | :) |
| 00:17.59 | nevcairiel | you managed to click it alone? |
| 00:18.21 | nevcairiel | well i never tried, but i always thought it wouldnt be possible because of the slow-debuff |
| 00:18.34 | cogwheel | i got to one of them... |
| 00:18.47 | JoshBorke | you don't have to get it |
| 00:19.07 | JoshBorke | the guy comes anyway |
| 00:19.11 | zenzelezz | the first time I tried to do Apexis Emanations (or whatever the first one is called) I killed all the engineers, then ran around starting the even on every one of the four mini-crystals... then headed to wowhead to find out what it was all about |
| 00:19.15 | nevcairiel | orly? |
| 00:19.26 | nevcairiel | lol zenzelezz |
| 00:19.45 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 00:20.09 | Saint-N | i ran over to it started it on one after killing theengineers and yelled OOOOO SIMON!! |
| 00:20.25 | Saint-N | then got my pad and pencil to write down the orders ;) |
| 00:20.39 | JoshBorke | i didn't know to right click on the colors |
| 00:20.40 | nevcairiel | i just type the order in a chatbox |
| 00:20.52 | Saint-N | oo thats handy too |
| 00:20.59 | JoshBorke | tinypad ftw |
| 00:20.59 | zenzelezz | for some reason I have no problem keeping track up to and including 6 beams (unless I start to watch chat), but past that I never trust my memory |
| 00:21.02 | Saint-N | didnt even think of that |
| 00:21.26 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: nah, just opening chat editbox, and using numpad for the numbers .. associated by position on that thing :P |
| 00:21.32 | zenzelezz | not uncommon to see someone in my guild greet people with "grbbyrrrheya" |
| 00:21.38 | JoshBorke | f that ride |
| 00:21.41 | JoshBorke | tinypad fwt |
| 00:21.51 | JoshBorke | frick |
| 00:22.04 | Saint-N | for win the? |
| 00:22.24 | Saint-N | fwt == For Whatever Todd |
| 00:22.26 | zenzelezz | personally I don't use numpad or letters... just 1-4 going clockwise from bottom-left one |
| 00:22.35 | Saint-N | fwtduh ;P |
| 00:23.34 | cogwheel | I wish the wow economy had some of the features of eve... like being able to place buy orders instead of having to wait for something to appear on the AH |
| 00:23.53 | zenzelezz | would be nice |
| 00:24.02 | Cidan | While it would be nice, it's too complex for most |
| 00:24.47 | zenzelezz | I actually appreciated the Market Forums that Anarchy Online had for both realms... just another vBulletin forum. WTB, WTS, WTA, worked fine... perhaps a bit messy for realms as large as WoW's |
| 00:24.48 | cogwheel | "Advanced" tab, imo :P |
| 00:27.36 | zenzelezz | another nice thing (in-game) was it let you create "references" of items or people, basically a way to open their info window at a later time. Was stored in a rather simple file format, so people made custom references advertising their crafts or sales, then linked them in a small, clean link in the trade channel |
| 00:28.00 | zenzelezz | would love that in WoW... might have reduced a little with all the craft/enchant spam |
| 00:31.02 | Cidan | I wish you had the ability to have guild halls and/or apartments |
| 00:31.30 | Cidan | or a real market place |
| 00:31.35 | Cidan | where people can setup shop |
| 00:31.50 | Corrodias | if you're flagged, and you walk into an unflagged hunter's trap, does it spring? |
| 00:32.24 | bleeter | I don't think so |
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| 00:35.48 | Kirov | Breaking News - Titan Panel has been released using Ace2! Plans to use Ace3. Now on wowace.com! </inquirer> |
| 00:37.52 | Kirov | "supports Fubar plugins" would be fun to add to that |
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| 00:43.07 | dreamss | oh rly? |
| 00:43.27 | Kirov | dreamss - no, not really, but it would cause quite the ruckass |
| 00:43.35 | dreamss | i hate u |
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| 00:50.32 | cogwheel | i love being able to run wow burn a cd and listen to itunes and still have about 40% CPU idle time |
| 00:50.46 | Kirov | cog? |
| 00:50.56 | cogwheel | yeth? |
| 00:51.28 | cogwheel | .... /poke |
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| 00:59.19 | Kirov | cogwheel - what cpu / os |
| 00:59.50 | cogwheel | e6600, 4gigs ram, vista 64-bit |
| 01:06.53 | cogwheel | now, to redo my UI or install linux... |
| 01:07.07 | cogwheel | s/.../...?/ |
| 01:09.28 | Thunder_Child | both |
| 01:10.11 | cogwheel | yes, but in which order? ;) |
| 01:10.39 | Kirov | cogwheel - at the same time? |
| 01:10.51 | Kirov | see if your vista can handle _that_! |
| 01:11.08 | cogwheel | oh... i already have a vmware linux machine |
| 01:11.13 | cogwheel | on windows |
| 01:11.20 | cogwheel | haven't tried it while wow's running though :P |
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| 01:16.40 | Wobin | ...when 'working' from home |
| 01:16.55 | Wobin | well, I have a vmware xp machine |
| 01:17.04 | Wobin | which I run with WoW =P |
| 01:20.14 | cogwheel | yep. works nicely :) |
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| 01:22.25 | cogwheel | still want to see linux running at full blast |
| 01:23.05 | cogwheel | well, decided on linux. |
| 01:23.06 | cogwheel | ttfn |
| 01:23.09 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ |
| 01:23.19 | bleeter | Vista Aero vs Linux Beryl, you decide ;) |
| 01:24.23 | Thunder_Child | i tried to get beryl working on an emulates linux but it wasnt having any |
| 01:24.29 | Thunder_Child | emulated* |
| 01:24.45 | bleeter | fwiw, Beryl and WoW don't play well together ;) |
| 01:25.15 | cogwheel | for the exact same reason wow and vista don't (framerate-wise, anyway) |
| 01:26.01 | bleeter | cogwheel: so which distro are ya gunna try? |
| 01:26.45 | cogwheel | Ubuntu... i don't have much time to devote to certain others i might be interested in. |
| 01:27.12 | bleeter | fair enough... be aware that current ubuntu prolly has a version of Wine that won't run WoW |
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| 01:27.42 | bleeter | it's a 'feature' of Ubuntu that they don't update releases, except for security stuff, hence you won't get updates for enhancements, etc. |
| 01:27.48 | bleeter | at least that's my understanding |
| 01:28.29 | cogwheel | oh, i have no problem installing stuff from outside of its repository |
| 01:28.50 | cogwheel | but for what it comes with, i've found it "just works" a lot better than some others |
| 01:29.14 | cogwheel | (the end of that video is full of win) |
| 01:29.19 | cogwheel | (no pun intended) |
| 01:29.24 | bleeter | indeed |
| 01:29.40 | cogwheel | anyway, off to screw up my system... |
| 01:35.20 | art3mis | linux mint is pretty decent for graphics/gaming |
| 01:35.36 | art3mis | they're using the old feisty ubuntu stuff as a basis and updateing as they go |
| 01:35.45 | art3mis | cept ati+compiz actually works |
| 01:35.53 | Cidan | eh |
| 01:35.55 | Cidan | I can't get it to work |
| 01:36.01 | Cidan | compiz fusion + ati |
| 01:36.09 | art3mis | what distro? |
| 01:36.17 | Cidan | ubuntu |
| 01:36.21 | art3mis | 7.10? |
| 01:36.24 | Cidan | no |
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| 01:36.32 | Cidan | fiesty |
| 01:36.35 | art3mis | 64? |
| 01:36.37 | cogwheel | Well there goes my "just works" theory :| |
| 01:36.39 | Cidan | no |
| 01:36.41 | Cidan | 32 |
| 01:36.44 | art3mis | k one sec |
| 01:36.57 | Cidan | tried every FAQ I could |
| 01:36.58 | Cidan | :P |
| 01:37.02 | Cidan | just fails |
| 01:37.55 | art3mis | check the linux mint forums |
| 01:38.02 | art3mis | its "mostly" feisty |
| 01:38.04 | Cidan | well here's the thing |
| 01:38.07 | art3mis | and should work |
| 01:38.13 | Cidan | There is this website JUST for my laptop + linux |
| 01:38.16 | Cidan | Ubuntu in fact |
| 01:38.30 | art3mis | hehe yeah i found taht for my acer too |
| 01:38.31 | Cidan | and even if I do what it says there, it fails |
| 01:38.38 | art3mis | what fails? |
| 01:38.45 | Cidan | compiz |
| 01:38.47 | art3mis | hardware accel? |
| 01:38.51 | art3mis | or the spinning |
| 01:38.57 | art3mis | spinnign wobbly etc |
| 01:39.10 | Cidan | compiz period, if I do that custom session type, it fails |
| 01:39.16 | Cidan | just blank screen |
| 01:39.30 | Cidan | ie: start Xgl |
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| 01:39.53 | art3mis | do youc are about yer machine? |
| 01:40.04 | art3mis | ;) |
| 01:40.06 | Cidan | Once again, in English please? |
| 01:40.15 | art3mis | do you care about your machine |
| 01:40.22 | Cidan | Er, yes? |
| 01:40.39 | art3mis | i mean the contents, ie grab a gusty disc OR a 3.1 mint disc |
| 01:40.58 | Cidan | Oh, not an option, :P |
| 01:41.03 | art3mis | then follow the happy faq ;) |
| 01:41.04 | Intangir | does anyone know of any addons that sort your bags and bank? |
| 01:41.12 | Cidan | TBH though, I haven't troubleshot much |
| 01:41.13 | art3mis | which ati is it? |
| 01:41.21 | art3mis | xpress1100? |
| 01:41.32 | Cidan | http://ubuntu1501.blogspot.com/ |
| 01:41.50 | art3mis | Intangir: arkinventory santity bags bagnon |
| 01:42.03 | art3mis | ark you setup the "slots" for sorting |
| 01:42.40 | art3mis | umm cid |
| 01:42.47 | art3mis | is that yer lappy? |
| 01:42.52 | Cidan | it sure is |
| 01:42.57 | Cidan | Pretty much robbed it from Dell |
| 01:43.14 | Intangir | art3mis: i got bagnon, but it doesnt sort does it? |
| 01:43.33 | art3mis | Intangir: i "think" you can set up the organization filtering in it |
| 01:43.42 | art3mis | if not go with sanity or ark |
| 01:43.50 | art3mis | Cidan: i see what the issue is |
| 01:43.55 | Intangir | which one is better? |
| 01:43.58 | art3mis | i like ark |
| 01:44.07 | art3mis | sanity is insanely configurable though |
| 01:44.31 | art3mis | cidan: see the different ati driver versions listed? |
| 01:44.47 | art3mis | you need to be certain its using the right ones |
| 01:45.23 | art3mis | there's a "fault" in xserver support if the version isnt correct |
| 01:45.25 | art3mis | that stops it |
| 01:45.31 | Cidan | Hmm |
| 01:45.33 | art3mis | i found that on 7.1 xorg a while back |
| 01:46.16 | art3mis | 8.34 would 3d properly in 6.9 xorg but not in 7.1 and the 8.39 that it installed normally and was supported by 7.1 didnt like the card |
| 01:46.22 | art3mis | REALLY picky |
| 01:47.14 | Cidan | I love how fglrxinfo just froze my laptop |
| 01:47.24 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 01:47.25 | Cidan | I just had to screen into irssi off of my main computer |
| 01:47.31 | art3mis | do gears next time ;P |
| 01:47.34 | Intangir | art3mis: thx |
| 01:47.36 | Intangir | laters |
| 01:48.01 | Cidan | Man, total hard lock up |
| 01:49.05 | art3mis | yer best bet for the ati stuff from "other sites" |
| 01:49.16 | art3mis | and faqs and stuff is to NOT try to get it working normally ;) |
| 01:53.53 | Intangir | i cant seem to get it to sort on arkinventory |
| 01:54.14 | Intangir | and sanity just shows them in an order, they arent actually in that order |
| 01:54.58 | art3mis | you gotta go to edit mode |
| 01:55.11 | art3mis | and then change what each "bar" is selected to show |
| 01:58.12 | Cidan | wahoo |
| 01:58.15 | Cidan | compiz is working |
| 01:58.16 | Cidan | :P |
| 01:58.25 | art3mis | yay! |
| 01:58.32 | Cidan | you know what's sad? |
| 01:58.39 | Cidan | it runs better on my laptop POS card |
| 01:58.43 | art3mis | that its mostly pointless? |
| 01:58.43 | Cidan | than on my 8800 |
| 01:58.48 | art3mis | oh |
| 01:58.49 | Cidan | on my desktop. |
| 01:59.11 | Cidan | 8800 has a huge driver bug somewhere, just moving a window == 100% CPU |
| 01:59.36 | Cidan | Now to install emerald, :P |
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| 02:04.08 | Cidan | waaa |
| 02:04.14 | Cidan | how do I disable this mouse switch thing? |
| 02:04.29 | Cidan | focus change on mouse over |
| 02:07.49 | art3mis | run the compiz config manager |
| 02:07.57 | art3mis | ;) |
| 02:08.06 | art3mis | or right click the taskbar icon and choose preferences |
| 02:08.43 | JoshBorke | <3 moseover focus |
| 02:09.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2041159076&sid=1#4 <-- interesting thread |
| 02:13.27 | Corrodias | uh oh. Cartographer - Herbalism just created a Dreaming Glory note that shows up even when i have DG unchecked in the filter |
| 02:15.23 | Corrodias | hmm, that's filed in wowwiki under "Lottery Functions". what the heck does it refer to? |
| 02:15.49 | art3mis | we were talking about taht last ight |
| 02:15.51 | art3mis | night |
| 02:18.11 | Corrodias | i see, you were a bit |
| 02:18.29 | MentalPower | I agree, Tabula Rasa is nothing new, the intro cinematic is nice, but the game doesn't pickup as fast as it should |
| 02:18.40 | Cidan | Oh right, no more NDA |
| 02:18.45 | Cidan | Yes, Tabula Rasa sucks ass |
| 02:18.51 | Cidan | Don't bother, etc, etc. |
| 02:25.54 | art3mis | hrm ive noticed some oddness with rock/ace2 |
| 02:26.16 | art3mis | it seems that all states seem to clear for rock |
| 02:26.42 | art3mis | ie. clockfu is set to not show the sun moon on minimap yet when i login i have to enable disable it |
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| 02:26.53 | art3mis | the fubar detached seem to move around all on thier own |
| 02:27.05 | art3mis | minichat acts all spazzy when retying to resize it |
| 02:27.37 | art3mis | ghud has a hide blizz frames but it resets each time something gets targeted |
| 02:28.02 | art3mis | and this is all new stuff since i installed librock |
| 02:28.14 | art3mis | it never did it prior on just ace2 |
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| 03:13.16 | MentalPower | !api SendAddonMessage |
| 03:13.17 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: SendAddonMessage("prefix", "text", "type", "target") -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 03:20.20 | Corrodias | this is just weird. that "exploits" forum allows unregistered viewing, but has certain tags that make it so only registered users can view the content... yet registration appears to be free |
| 03:20.21 | Corrodias | what's the point? |
| 03:20.43 | Cidan | Boasting of user count? |
| 03:20.55 | Cidan | "we have 9999999999 cheaters! yay!" |
| 03:21.07 | Corrodias | the way the users talk on there, it's like they think anybody who registers obviously will never tell Blizzard about anything |
| 03:21.18 | Cidan | never tell? |
| 03:21.30 | Cidan | Companies have entire departments dedicated to hunting down hacks |
| 03:21.34 | Cidan | and exploits |
| 03:21.38 | Corrodias | exactly |
| 03:21.59 | Corrodias | i really don't think blizzard hunters will consider it too much trouble to register on a free forum to find out things like that |
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| 03:26.16 | Cidan | Eagle eye == my new favorite spell |
| 03:55.36 | Cairenn | Cidan: did Shirik ever get back to you at all? |
| 03:57.11 | Cidan | nope |
| 03:57.18 | Cairenn | hmmm |
| 03:57.18 | Cidan | it's like he's ignoring me |
| 03:57.22 | Cairenn | hope everything is okay with him |
| 03:57.25 | Cidan | he's not AFK, he's just not talking |
| 03:59.07 | Cidan | I'm sure he's fine, just busy. |
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| 04:19.03 | kaiden | Anyone know of a way to change the strata of a chatframe? |
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| 04:31.43 | Kirov | Guillotine or Kaelten around? |
| 04:31.51 | Kaelten | sup? |
| 04:32.11 | Kirov | Are you guys aware of the issues with searching on curse? |
| 04:32.19 | Kirov | ie: it comes up with one result, and it's wrong |
| 04:32.37 | Kirov | No matter what I search for right now I get cogsbar |
| 04:32.54 | Guillotine | hmm |
| 04:32.55 | Guillotine | wierd |
| 04:33.14 | Guillotine | search is working fine for me |
| 04:33.39 | MentalPower | !vs us alleria mentak us alleria kyro |
| 04:33.42 | Kirov | working for me now as well |
| 04:33.45 | ThraeBot | MentalPower: Mentak vs Kyro! Mentak has +11 lvls on Kyro (60 vs 49); A L60 priest and a L49 druid square off!; 10/0/41 vs 8/5/27; Mentak wins by 471 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 04:34.19 | Kirov | Guillotine - a few people have complained about it on the forums as well |
| 04:34.28 | Guillotine | strange |
| 04:35.09 | Kirov | aha |
| 04:35.32 | Kirov | Go to the main page, type in a search query, and click on the results instead of go |
| 04:36.00 | Kirov | the search shows as "undefined" |
| 04:36.39 | Thunder_Child | and it seems that cogsbar is undefined |
| 04:52.54 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone who has a high level hunter notice the changes with Aspect of the Viper? Do you think it is working as intended? |
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| 05:09.27 | kadrahil | Mike-N-Go: i probably still won't even use viper. i just use mana oil and chain chug mana pots |
| 05:09.33 | kadrahil | and hawk |
| 05:10.19 | Mike-N-Go | kadrahil: When you hit the bottom of your mana supply, it helps. |
| 05:10.25 | Mike-N-Go | Did you hear how they changed it? |
| 05:10.31 | kadrahil | Mike-N-Go: yeah, i did |
| 05:10.39 | kadrahil | i haven't raided since the patch, so i haven't had a chance to test it out yet |
| 05:10.47 | kadrahil | too busy with classes |
| 05:11.18 | Mike-N-Go | Well, having viper up is not updated under the MP5 part of the charter pane. |
| 05:11.52 | kadrahil | isn't that how it's always been? |
| 05:13.47 | mikma | hmm. I think I saw an addon some days ago that reminds you if you lose a DoT on your target.. anyone remembers what's that addon? :O |
| 05:15.18 | Mike-N-Go | kadrahil: In the past, it had reflected MP5 in that pane. |
| 05:15.22 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: Yup. |
| 05:15.36 | mikma | it's not DoTimer, that's for sure |
| 05:15.38 | Mike-N-Go | Ash suite |
| 05:15.38 | kadrahil | Mike-N-Go: ah, i never noticed it |
| 05:15.44 | Mike-N-Go | I got it on curse, I belive. |
| 05:16.24 | Mike-N-Go | kadrahil: Probably, because a hunter does not generally need to look in that pane =D |
| 05:16.49 | kadrahil | Mike-N-Go: true :) |
| 05:18.02 | Mike-N-Go | BTW, in my 'healing gear' ((as a hunter)) I have 600 to healing, 82 MP5. |
| 05:18.02 | Mike-N-Go | RP robes =P |
| 05:18.38 | kadrahil | too bad the +healing doesn't work for us anymore |
| 05:18.54 | mikma | Mike-N-Go: hmm can you recheck the name? didn't find any matches |
| 05:35.13 | Wraanger | mikma |
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| 05:36.17 | Wraanger | check http://www.de.curse.com/downloads/details/987/ ..mb it is what you are lookig for ? |
| 05:37.00 | mikma | Wraanger: well, no. but something like that got released like 2 days ago |
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| 05:45.06 | a-stray-ca1 | anyone here play in linux? |
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| 05:45.27 | mikma | a-stray-ca1: maybe |
| 05:45.44 | a-stray-ca1 | would you happen to know how to get the alt key to work? |
| 05:45.53 | a-stray-ca1 | in-game? |
| 05:46.33 | mikma | err, no sorry :P |
| 05:49.50 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 05:50.29 | wereHamster | a-stray-ca1, what exactly doesn't work? |
| 05:54.31 | art3mis | classtimers |
| 05:54.39 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:54.40 | art3mis | chronometer |
| 05:55.09 | art3mis | let's play kitty bath! |
| 05:55.13 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: Ash Timers, maybe? |
| 05:55.39 | Mike-N-Go | kadrahil: I know that +heal does nothing for hunters, just like to say how much I can have =D |
| 05:56.43 | art3mis | it does though |
| 05:56.52 | art3mis | it makes yer healing pots gooder ;P |
| 05:58.06 | wereHamster | does +heal increase heals of pots (bandages)? |
| 05:58.21 | art3mis | bandaids i dont think so pots it does though |
| 05:58.33 | wereHamster | that's new, isn't it? |
| 05:59.43 | art3mis | nope been like that for a while |
| 05:59.47 | wereHamster | (new as in instroduced sometime in last year) |
| 06:01.19 | Mike-N-Go | kadrahil: When I need mana, I just FD and drink for 10 seconds =D |
| 06:03.04 | mikma | Mike-N-Go: nope :( didn't find it |
| 06:03.04 | kadrahil | Mike-N-Go: hehe yeah |
| 06:11.53 | art3mis | nice |
| 06:12.01 | art3mis | ashes of al'ar dropped for a guild on my server today |
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| 06:13.52 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: I have addons of Ash, they tell me when a spell's effect are to drop off of a target. |
| 06:14.08 | Mike-N-Go | I dunno where I got it from, tho. |
| 06:14.16 | Mike-N-Go | What is it you are looking for, exzactly? |
| 06:17.00 | Mike-N-Go | Found it. |
| 06:17.05 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3260/ |
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| 06:43.37 | wereHamster | http://13gb.com/pictures/1013/ <= that's just mean :( |
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| 07:12.04 | art3mis | oh was watching penn and teller tonight |
| 07:12.15 | art3mis | about the american handicap laws |
| 07:12.30 | art3mis | and one guy compared handicaps to rosa parks |
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| 07:13.23 | art3mis | and penn says rosa parks wasnt allowed on the bus because of a Law by Jim Rosen segregating blacks from whites, handi caps arent allowed on the bus because of the laws drafted by Sir Isacc Newton. |
| 07:13.32 | art3mis | i was in tears from it |
| 07:16.11 | Mike-N-Go | Kaelten: How is your book writing going, the one for World of Warcraft Programming? |
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| 07:29.16 | Tierrie | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw |
| 07:29.24 | Tierrie | you just can't make these stuff up |
| 07:29.31 | Tierrie | no wait, i guess you can |
| 07:31.59 | cladhaire | Mike-N-Go: It's going well overall |
| 07:32.01 | cladhaire | just slowly |
| 07:34.34 | Mike-N-Go | I'm really looking forward to it, as I am yet to learn how to code with xml and frames, and I hope to incorporate these things into my projects. |
| 07:35.52 | cladhaire | those chapters have been written for a bit now.. some of more fun stuff actually ;-) |
| 07:36.16 | Mike-N-Go | cladhaire: What method are you going to use to deliver the book? |
| 07:36.31 | cladhaire | print |
| 07:36.33 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 07:36.39 | Mike-N-Go | I saw it on Amazon, but is it going to be an E-Book, or a paperback? |
| 07:36.52 | cladhaire | its a 750-800 page paperback reference book |
| 07:37.19 | Mike-N-Go | That is, what, 4 or 5 inches thick? In total weight of, 10 pounds? |
| 07:38.03 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 07:38.08 | cladhaire | its quite a big book |
| 07:38.28 | cladhaire | 28 chapters, plus appendices, plus the API reference |
| 07:39.04 | Mike-N-Go | Have you thought of distributing a sample chapter in electronic forum? |
| 07:40.18 | cladhaire | we had two chapters of HWoW available, yes |
| 07:40.29 | cladhaire | so I anticipate we'll do the same here. |
| 07:40.44 | Mike-N-Go | What is HWoW? |
| 07:40.51 | cladhaire | ~hwow |
| 07:40.53 | purl | [hwow] Hacking World of Warcraft, a book written by Daniel Gilbert and James Whitehead (Cladhaire) about user interface customization for WoW. http://tinyurl.com/2mgkek. |
| 07:40.53 | cladhaire | the first book |
| 07:40.59 | cladhaire | less about writing addons, more about how to use them |
| 07:41.03 | cladhaire | but same deal |
| 07:41.34 | Mike-N-Go | I can imagine a few people who would benefit from that. |
| 07:41.49 | cladhaire | not sure what you mean |
| 07:42.15 | Mike-N-Go | A few people who I have came across and tried to instruct how to use/install addons. |
| 07:42.21 | cladhaire | ah, yes. |
| 07:42.24 | cladhaire | that's why we wrote it :P |
| 07:42.51 | Mike-N-Go | Otherwise, it takes so long to instruct others individually.. |
| 07:43.28 | cladhaire | its nice because it gives you a ton of screenshots for people to look at |
| 07:43.38 | cladhaire | and tells them at what sites they can find a mod |
| 07:43.53 | cladhaire | its the "buy this for your guildmates" book |
| 07:43.55 | KarlKFI | stickies in paper form! |
| 07:44.23 | Mike-N-Go | The only problem I see with books like this, is how long before it gets outdated, where the information is not as revelevent. |
| 07:44.24 | cladhaire | :P |
| 07:44.43 | cladhaire | Mike-N-Go: how's about a full online companion website that is constantly up to date |
| 07:44.50 | cladhaire | and potential second editions of the book |
| 07:45.01 | Mike-N-Go | There is that. |
| 07:45.03 | cladhaire | small portions here and there may become outdated over _long_ PERIODS OF TIME |
| 07:45.13 | cladhaire | but it seems for right now we're done with wide sweeping changes |
| 07:45.18 | Mike-N-Go | As with any tec. book, I guess. |
| 07:45.30 | cladhaire | and tbh, in 2.0 from the overall perspective, the changes were still rather localized |
| 07:45.30 | Mike-N-Go | Unless Blizz throws a curve ball! |
| 07:45.34 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 07:45.49 | KarlKFI | who still reads paper non-fiction non-magazines tho.. |
| 07:47.40 | Thunder_Child | some of us like the feel of a book |
| 07:47.41 | cladhaire | lol programmers, so they have reference :P |
| 07:47.44 | cladhaire | that's why i'm writing it |
| 07:47.48 | cladhaire | so i have a book on my shelf |
| 07:48.04 | cladhaire | also, i have to contractually update the online reference by contract |
| 07:48.08 | KarlKFI | oh i understand the 2nd one |
| 07:48.15 | cladhaire | so that'll be a nice forced up-to-date reference |
| 07:48.30 | cladhaire | i can't wait to read all of cogwheel's and kaelten's stuff.k |
| 07:48.47 | KarlKFI | but hwow isn't really reference, enh? |
| 07:49.01 | cladhaire | no it's not |
| 07:49.06 | KarlKFI | more of a beginners howto |
| 07:49.15 | cladhaire | aye |
| 07:49.32 | cladhaire | if you can call 400 pages a howto :P |
| 07:49.35 | KarlKFI | i can understand wanting a paper reference |
| 07:49.39 | Thunder_Child | but even outdated it's still worthwhile to read |
| 07:50.32 | Mike-N-Go | Principles hardly, if never, change. |
| 07:50.41 | cladhaire | my big conflict is wishing we could contribute to wowwiki, but unfortunately that's not possible so we need to create a new online reference. |
| 07:51.14 | Mike-N-Go | What about WoWWiki? |
| 07:51.32 | cladhaire | Not sure what you're asking.. |
| 07:52.01 | Mike-N-Go | You wish you could contribute to WoWWiki, but your saying it is not possible. |
| 07:52.09 | cladhaire | no its not |
| 07:52.17 | cladhaire | wowwiki is owned by wikia and they sell and license the material |
| 07:52.21 | cladhaire | i.e. to curse |
| 07:52.29 | Mike-N-Go | It is not not? Or it is not? I'm confused. |
| 07:52.39 | cladhaire | its not possible. |
| 07:52.59 | Mike-N-Go | Boo non-opensource! |
| 07:53.02 | cladhaire | not to mention, the specific license used by wowwiki allows commercial use of the material, which means anyone who wants to can download the entire wiki, put it into book format and print it and sell it |
| 07:53.18 | cladhaire | Yeah open source is a nice ideal |
| 07:53.31 | cladhaire | but the book never would have been written had the publisher not paid me enough to quit my job and work full time on the material |
| 07:53.51 | cladhaire | if the material can then be ripped en-masse and printed by another publisher, the book would never have existed in the first place. |
| 07:54.16 | Mike-N-Go | Haha, there is always that money delima. |
| 07:54.34 | haste | in after drama |
| 07:54.45 | cladhaire | so *shrug* |
| 07:54.53 | cladhaire | it'll work out in the end |
| 07:56.38 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone here use FuriousRaid? |
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| 08:09.24 | Mike-N-Go | Is this bad? I have 203 items in my AddOns folder? |
| 08:09.35 | Mike-N-Go | Total of 111.9 MBs. |
| 08:10.20 | haste | only 52M here |
| 08:10.26 | haste | "only" |
| 08:12.27 | wereHamster | most of teh files probably are duplicated embedded libs |
| 08:12.28 | Mike-N-Go | Well, Atlas is only like 30 MBs of that. |
| 08:13.27 | Mike-N-Go | With LightHeaded coming in second with only 10 MBs |
| 08:13.32 | bleeter | I went to write a shell script to try to handle svn:externals from wowace's svn to cut down on the multiple embedded libs... needed to say, the 6 line script I originally had blew out to 20 lines pretty quick, so I gave up ;) |
| 08:15.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | 92 mb now |
| 08:15.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | 218 folders |
| 08:16.12 | Mike-N-Go | My WTF folder is 66.4 MBs. |
| 08:20.31 | Thunder_Child | 193mb 396 folders |
| 08:22.12 | Mike-N-Go | Thunder_Child: You pown us all. |
| 08:22.41 | Olison | 31.7 mb I WIN :P |
| 08:22.54 | bleeter | 401 folders, 80M |
| 08:22.58 | Thunder_Child | hardly special, and i have no duplicate libs |
| 08:23.03 | bleeter | we counting subfolders? |
| 08:23.14 | haste | no idea |
| 08:23.26 | Thunder_Child | heh, w/ subfolders i have 897 |
| 08:24.04 | haste | I have 70 folders without subs |
| 08:26.10 | Mike-N-Go | I'm talking what is at the root of the AddOn folder. |
| 08:26.57 | Wraanger | 135 folders with subs, 21.2 MiB =) |
| 08:42.55 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: Try http://files.wowace.com/Chronometer/Chronometer-r50211.2.zip Tracks spell effects (HoTs, DoTs, buffs, debuffs, etc.) that you cast. |
| 08:43.15 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: Or http://files.wowace.com/ClassTimer/ClassTimer-r49905.4.zip Timers for Buffs, DOTs, CC effects, etc.. |
| 08:49.32 | Neebler | Sorrens timers has diminishing returns, which is great for sheeping |
| 08:51.16 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know an addon that tells you who is AFK or drinking in the raid? |
| 08:52.19 | Mike-N-Go | mikma was looking for something that showed when her DoT fell off a mob. |
| 08:52.22 | Neebler | about 50+ addons |
| 08:53.40 | Neebler | try XRS |
| 08:55.32 | Mike-N-Go | Neebler: Many thanks. |
| 08:56.12 | Corrodias | hmm. until now, i had been using Chronometer, but it is no good at tracking freezing traps or pet mend, so i had to add K-something hunter timers |
| 08:56.24 | Corrodias | i wonder how good classtimer and sorren's are at freezing traps |
| 08:58.20 | Neebler | classtimers tracks durations as it is displayed on your buffs/debuff icons, as well as on your target |
| 08:58.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corrodias |
| 08:58.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you all lose |
| 08:58.24 | Mike-N-Go | Corrodias: I believe I have KHunterTimers for that. I rather like it. |
| 08:58.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | necb |
| 08:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | do it |
| 08:59.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all you'll ever need for timing anything ever |
| 08:59.04 | sag_ich_nicht | 197 MB 481 folders |
| 08:59.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i win. |
| 08:59.04 | Neebler | yea but I get your UI looks like poop. |
| 08:59.04 | Mike-N-Go | sag_ich_nicht: You counted all of them? Took long enough, ehh? |
| 08:59.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Mike-N-Go: no, i opened a lister and looked in the bottom left oO |
| 08:59.40 | sag_ich_nicht | haha you don't have the statusbar displayed |
| 08:59.43 | sag_ich_nicht | noobcake |
| 08:59.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 08:59.58 | Mike-N-Go | sag_ich_nicht: Moo, are you happy now? |
| 09:00.04 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 09:00.05 | sag_ich_nicht | very |
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| 09:03.36 | Corrodias | I have... |
| 09:04.25 | Corrodias | 130mb in 413 folders (not counting subfolders) |
| 09:06.48 | Wobin | oh man |
| 09:06.55 | Wobin | I know what the new eng flying mount will be |
| 09:08.10 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 09:08.37 | Corrodias | gnomes with goblin rocket fuel in uncomfortable places |
| 09:09.36 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 09:10.54 | cryogen | i would buy one of those |
| 09:13.44 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: would you believe I managed to get sun's JVM working? I'd been putting it off, coz I thought it'd be a nightmare... turned out pretty easy once I found a decent jpackage spec file which is F7 compat ;) |
| 09:17.03 | Mike-N-Go | clad|away: You here? |
| 09:17.22 | Mike-N-Go | I just downloaded the new version of LightHead and TomTom to go with it. |
| 09:17.35 | Mike-N-Go | And I have some questions. |
| 09:18.27 | Mike-N-Go | Whenever I click a cord link, TomTom tells me that it was set, and LightHeaded tells me that it is not supported in this version of Cartographer_Waypoints. |
| 09:18.59 | Mike-N-Go | Also, the cords from TomTom appear in the current zone, not spiffily the correct zone for the quest.. |
| 09:19.18 | Corrodias | hmm, the pvp honor-bought epics are pretty darn good compared to what's available outside kara. i think i need to pvp on my hunter. :( |
| 09:19.52 | Mike-N-Go | Corrodias: My main is a hunter, level 70, 42 days played at 70. |
| 09:20.08 | Mike-N-Go | And those PvP items are sure good. |
| 09:20.30 | Corrodias | i think i'll work toward the three Veteran's pieces |
| 09:21.34 | Mike-N-Go | Look into the neck pice, and epic ring, too. |
| 09:21.51 | Corrodias | hmm, i'm not familiar with those |
| 09:22.07 | Mike-N-Go | Veteran's Pendant of Triumph] |
| 09:22.19 | Mike-N-Go | !l Veteran's Pendant of Triumph |
| 09:22.22 | Wobin | No no |
| 09:22.26 | Wobin | A ROFLCOPTER |
| 09:23.01 | Arcaia | Hi, pie. |
| 09:23.37 | Mike-N-Go | !i Veteran's Pendant of Triumph |
| 09:23.38 | ThraeBot | Mike-N-Go: Name: Veteran's Pendant of Triumph; Rarity: Epic (Purple); BoP; Unique; Type: Necklace; +31 Stamina; 1 Yellow socket(s); +3 Stamina socket bonus; Requires L70; +18 CritRating; +18 ResilienceRating; Equip: Increases attack power by 42.. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=33066 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33066 ]] |
| 09:23.54 | Corrodias | what the heck is the point of having General's gear and Veteran's gear that's so much better and costs a little more? |
| 09:24.00 | Mike-N-Go | !i [Pendant of Triumph] |
| 09:24.01 | ThraeBot | Mike-N-Go: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 09:24.09 | Mike-N-Go | !i Pendant of Triumph |
| 09:24.10 | ThraeBot | Mike-N-Go: Name: Pendant of Triumph; Rarity: Epic (Purple); BoP; Unique; Type: Necklace; +28 Stamina; 2 Yellow socket(s); +2 Hit Rating socket bonus; Requires L70; +10 CritRating; +17 ResilienceRating; Equip: Increases attack power by 36.. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=28244 ][ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28244 ]] |
| 09:24.14 | Corrodias | it just confuses me when i'm looking at wowhead to have this inferior General's gear around |
| 09:24.54 | Mike-N-Go | Corrodias: Every now and then, the gear for PvP rewards gets updated. |
| 09:25.11 | Mike-N-Go | Same stats, just a slight increase, and a higher cost, too.. |
| 09:27.03 | Corrodias | ah... |
| 09:32.31 | Corrodias | ack! "As of patch 2.3 all items in the gladiator season 1, 2, and 3 sets will be part of the same set" |
| 09:32.41 | Wobin | ack? |
| 09:32.56 | Corrodias | CHANGE RAWR |
| 09:33.28 | Mike-N-Go | Corrodias: What is that to mean? |
| 09:33.48 | Corrodias | it means you don't have to trash your season 1/2 sets to get set bonuses with season 3 pieces |
| 09:35.16 | buu | It also means you can't get the extra +35 res bonus |
| 09:35.50 | Corrodias | what do you mean? |
| 09:36.03 | Corrodias | you could get it with a mix of gear from all 3 seasons, according to that |
| 09:36.24 | buu | I said *extra* |
| 09:36.33 | Corrodias | i don't know what extra you're talking about |
| 09:36.37 | buu | Ok. |
| 09:37.12 | KarlKFI | =D I fixed DamageMeters |
| 09:37.18 | Corrodias | well, that was pretty enlightening |
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| 09:37.52 | Corrodias | it is true that additional resilience will not come out of nowhere no matter what you're wearing |
| 09:39.43 | Tem|AFK | Corrodias, atm, it's to most people's advantage to wear at least 2 peices of both arena sets to get the +35 resil bonus twice |
| 09:39.58 | KarlKFI | esp ret pallies |
| 09:39.59 | Tem|AFK | this change will eliminate the ability to do that |
| 09:40.04 | KarlKFI | who get like none otherwise |
| 09:40.21 | Corrodias | aha, i see! |
| 09:40.27 | Tem|AFK | which, really, is a good thing imo |
| 09:41.15 | Tem|AFK | it's a nerf to warlocks, priest, druids, pallies, and anyone else who gets more than one set per tier |
| 09:41.29 | Tem|AFK | (why the hell do warlocks get 2 sets?) |
| 09:42.01 | buu | Because they have two specs! |
| 09:42.14 | Tem|AFK | mages have 2 specs |
| 09:42.17 | Tem|AFK | we don't get 2 sets |
| 09:42.18 | buu | No they don't! |
| 09:42.42 | Tem|AFK | there are basically 3 specs you will see from mages in arena right now |
| 09:42.42 | buu | Well, in theory they have two specs that require different itemization to be effective |
| 09:42.46 | Tem|AFK | and one of them sucks horribly |
| 09:42.49 | buu | Although it doesn't really play out all that well. |
| 09:42.50 | KarlKFI | is Cyclable a word? |
| 09:42.55 | KarlKFI | Cycle-able |
| 09:42.58 | Tem|AFK | ask google, imo |
| 09:43.18 | Tem|AFK | recyclables |
| 09:43.24 | Tem|AFK | so probably, yes |
| 09:43.36 | KarlKFI | looks like it's a french word |
| 09:44.20 | KarlKFI | or a made up word meaning able to ride a bike on |
| 09:44.29 | Tem|AFK | heh |
| 09:44.50 | KarlKFI | adj: fit or designed for bicycle riding: a cyclable road. |
| 09:45.35 | KarlKFI | ok i need a phrase that means "Quantities that can be cycled through" |
| 09:46.07 | KarlKFI | i thought "Cyclable Quantities" would be ok, but it's not much better than the current "Quantity Filters" |
| 09:46.18 | Tem|AFK | how about "quantities that can be cycled through?" |
| 09:46.26 | KarlKFI | too long for the dropdown |
| 09:46.49 | KarlKFI | maybe jsut Cycle Quantities |
| 09:47.04 | KarlKFI | or Cycling Quantities |
| 09:48.57 | KarlKFI | or Quantities to Cycle |
| 09:50.36 | Corrodias | wait, wait |
| 09:50.57 | Corrodias | "edited for clarity -- the set bonuses will work between seasons, but not between different specs, so healing sets and dps sets won't combine together." |
| 09:51.43 | KarlKFI | so you can wear 2 arena1 and 2 arena2 and get the 4pc bonus |
| 09:51.56 | KarlKFI | but not 2 ret and 2 holy |
| 09:52.16 | Corrodias | seems that way |
| 09:52.18 | KarlKFI | 2 ret and 2 holy would get you 2 2pc bonuses |
| 09:52.29 | KarlKFI | pretty sure |
| 09:53.26 | Tem|AFK | *sigh* |
| 09:53.30 | Tem|AFK | that's not fair |
| 09:53.43 | Tem|AFK | now classes with only one set REALLY get screwed |
| 09:53.56 | Tem|AFK | espeically if they don't change the 4pc bonus to something actually worth having |
| 09:54.29 | Tem|AFK | (I'm sorry, but 2 seconds off blink cooldown is not better than 35 resilience) |
| 09:55.02 | Corrodias | are you shitting me? two seconds of blink is OP. blink is the most over-used spell in pvp, i tell you. |
| 09:55.21 | Corrodias | i'd sell my cat form for blink! |
| 09:55.58 | KarlKFI | you'd never wear pieces from 2 gear sets anyway |
| 09:56.04 | KarlKFI | that'd be dumb |
| 09:56.07 | Tem|AFK | KarlKFI, I see people do it all the time |
| 09:56.13 | Tem|AFK | priests in particular |
| 09:56.26 | sag_ich_nicht | KarlKFI: your main nick broken? |
| 09:56.35 | Tem|AFK | probably just lazy |
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| 09:56.48 | Tem|AFK | only reason I'm still |afk is because I don't feel like changing it |
| 09:57.02 | KarlKFI | i'd have to quit and relaunch |
| 09:57.13 | Codayus | People go for 2x2pc bonus all the time; it'd better than most 4pc bonuses. |
| 09:57.17 | Tem|AFK | you could /nick |
| 09:57.36 | KarlKFI | so i've decided the SWStas bottom buttons are lame and take up screen space and all those who requested DM equivalents are lame |
| 09:57.47 | KarlKFI | so i'm just adding a manual cycle button |
| 09:58.09 | Tem|AFK | they have a purpose |
| 09:58.17 | Tem|AFK | if poorly positioned in SWstats |
| 09:58.25 | Tem|AFK | and a cycle button sucks |
| 09:58.30 | Tem|AFK | worse than the swstats buttons |
| 09:58.35 | KarlKFI | how does a cycle button suck? |
| 09:58.46 | Tem|AFK | multiple clicks to get where you want to go |
| 09:58.54 | Tem|AFK | and you don't know how many you need |
| 09:58.55 | KarlKFI | there's already an interface for selecting what you want to see |
| 09:59.05 | Tem|AFK | *sigh* |
| 09:59.13 | KarlKFI | you can limit it to onyl cycle through the 5 oyu usually want |
| 09:59.14 | Tem|AFK | that's irrelevant |
| 09:59.19 | Tem|AFK | also irrelevant |
| 09:59.27 | Corrodias | i'd like RecountFu's dropdown menu to select which page to see, but it's mis-indexed at the moment |
| 09:59.36 | Codayus | The point is, most people care about 2-3 kinds of data, and they want to be able to look at htem very fast, in combat. A long dropdown menu won't work. |
| 09:59.36 | KarlKFI | screen space > haveing to click in the same place more than once |
| 09:59.47 | Codayus | And a cycle button definetly won;t. |
| 09:59.50 | Tem|AFK | bzzt wrong |
| 10:00.22 | Corrodias | anybody who's paying more attention to their meters than to their combat probably needs to turn them off |
| 10:00.44 | KarlKFI | who cares. when was the last time you switched in combat anyway? |
| 10:00.46 | Corrodias | however, i'm not opposed to having an easy way of switching pages |
| 10:00.52 | Codayus | Raid leader. All the time... |
| 10:00.55 | Codayus | <--- |
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| 10:01.11 | KarlKFI | why are you lookign at meters and not killing things? |
| 10:01.49 | Corrodias | perhaps he's doing both |
| 10:02.28 | Corrodias | i am curious, what do you want to see during combat? |
| 10:02.48 | KarlKFI | only think i ever look at in combat is dps |
| 10:03.34 | KarlKFI | but usually i'm too busy watching Omen |
| 10:03.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's really not all that to look at in most fights so glancing at a meter every now and then isn't difficult |
| 10:03.41 | Corrodias | maybe... maybe he looks at Damage Taken to see if people are standing in the wrong place |
| 10:03.45 | Codayus | General DPS, CC breakage, threat (if not using a dedicated display), healing. Sometimes looking to see what's going wrong in the current fight, sometimes analyzing previous pulls. |
| 10:04.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just listen for the "YOU'RE AT 90%, ASSHOLE, STOP ATTACKING" sound and back off for omen |
| 10:04.28 | Codayus | I don't tend to look at meters during boss fights, but trash hardly needs much attention, and it's better than wasting time standing around... |
| 10:04.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do during boss fights unless it requires extra attention |
| 10:05.07 | KarlKFI | ok well DM has no cc tracker. so it'd jsut be switching between dps and hps |
| 10:05.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | like for maiden i run in at like 5 sec to repentence |
| 10:05.18 | KarlKFI | single click toggle |
| 10:05.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | curator i just stand in one spot and hit 1 until the cows come home |
| 10:06.03 | Corrodias | i chase flares :d |
| 10:06.08 | KarlKFI | if you're bored dpsing roll a ret pally |
| 10:06.18 | Corrodias | although if and when i take my hunter, i won't be running around any more |
| 10:07.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm always the offtank on curator |
| 10:08.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one ever approaches my hp so unless a healer dies in a freak flare accident i'm always taking the bolt |
| 10:08.08 | Corrodias | oh, i see, a bolt taker |
| 10:10.31 | Corrodias | at this point, we're just letting them fall where they may, although we used to use a heavily-resisting warlock for that |
| 10:17.00 | Tem|AFK | oh wow |
| 10:17.28 | Tem|AFK | Evertras transfered to Black Dragonflight and joined a 2v2 with Saqe |
| 10:17.39 | Tem|AFK | I feel bad for people in that battlegroup |
| 10:18.29 | Tem|AFK | (both are well known mages. They've put out videos and are definitely _very_ good at what they do) |
| 10:18.32 | Neebler | I'm on Black Dragonflight |
| 10:18.42 | Tem|AFK | (us, not eu) |
| 10:20.20 | Corrodias | sleepy time! 'night |
| 10:20.49 | Tem|AFK | Neebler, what faction do you play? |
| 10:21.09 | Tem|AFK | gnome rogue, by chance? |
| 10:22.12 | Neebler | yes thats me |
| 10:22.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr, i'm fine soaking them |
| 10:22.29 | Tem|AFK | Neebler, look out for those 2 mages |
| 10:22.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | even after 2 bolts i have more hp than 80% of the raid if they're all at 100% |
| 10:22.33 | Tem|AFK | they're death to your kind |
| 10:22.54 | Neebler | pssh, I'm not afraid of someone just because they made a video or two. doesn't automatically make them great |
| 10:22.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | er after one, on 2nd |
| 10:23.07 | Tem|AFK | Neebler, these 2 _are_ great |
| 10:23.16 | Tem|AFK | 2200 rating |
| 10:23.19 | Neebler | fricken frost mages |
| 10:23.22 | Tem|AFK | with a 2 frost mage team |
| 10:23.54 | Tem|AFK | and Saqe specializes in multiple opponents |
| 10:24.06 | Tem|AFK | his videos are all him fighting 3 or more at once |
| 10:24.08 | Tem|AFK | and winning |
| 10:39.19 | Arcaia | holy hell |
| 10:39.26 | Arcaia | mt |
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| 12:36.44 | KarlKFI | DM 5.7.0 - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5294-DamageMeters.html |
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| 13:10.55 | bleeter | KarlKFI: rawr |
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| 13:28.20 | art3mis | wheeeeeee |
| 13:29.01 | Lopeppeppy | Ya? |
| 13:29.20 | Industrial | fosho |
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| 14:13.32 | Lopeppeppy | Still not possible to have a macro target by class, ya? < --- brain dead, long weekend |
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| 14:15.59 | TS|Skrom | nice |
| 14:16.08 | TS|Skrom | mods are out in force in the suggestion forum today |
| 14:16.22 | TS|Skrom | new topic with subject in caps, it's deleted in under 45 seconds |
| 14:16.47 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, bliss. |
| 14:17.12 | TS|Skrom | and to your question, no I don't think so |
| 14:17.12 | wereHamster | serverside code: if title_in_caps() then delete_topic() end |
| 14:17.58 | TS|Skrom | Is there a reason they couldn't just do a replace on threads as they pass through the profanity filter? |
| 14:18.51 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, TS|Skrom. I have about 1 brain cell left, and it's broken. |
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| 14:37.36 | Kaydeethree | bleeter, ya. one of the first things I did after I got f7 installed and stable was poke around for the jpackage .spec once it was apparent that the java shipping with f7 wouldn't work for azu |
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| 14:47.06 | Cairenn | morning all |
| 14:47.13 | Kaydeethree | ohayo |
| 14:48.16 | Josh_Borke | ohayou |
| 14:48.28 | Kaydeethree | wow @ http://picasaweb.google.com/AGaripian/Halo3ReallyBigThingErrorMessageWaitHowDidYouDoThat/photo#5116209708072391906 |
| 14:50.52 | Valaron|Work | Phantom Hourglass comes out tomorrow :) |
| 14:51.00 | Fisker- | i don't get it Kaydeethree |
| 14:51.08 | Josh_Borke | me neither |
| 14:51.18 | Kaydeethree | the "error message" in the top right corner |
| 14:51.19 | Valaron|Work | Me neither. |
| 14:51.28 | Valaron|Work | Guess it's because I don't play. |
| 14:52.28 | Fisker- | but why would it write that? |
| 14:52.44 | Kaydeethree | because flipping the vehicle that got flipped there is notoriously difficult |
| 14:52.56 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 14:53.02 | Josh_Borke | so that vehicle is flipped? |
| 14:53.04 | Fisker- | ah so it's a function to flip the car back to normal then? |
| 14:53.13 | Fisker- | and since it saw it was that big vehicle it was a joke? |
| 14:53.13 | Josh_Borke | but it looks right side up |
| 14:54.40 | Fisker- | why are people playing halo 3 btw? |
| 14:55.16 | Fisker- | still haven't managed to grasp how Halo 3 can be popular if the 2 preceeding titles were shit |
| 14:55.38 | Kaydeethree | you don't play halo for the single-player storyline... |
| 14:56.09 | Kaydeethree | and if you look at the second photo in that little mini-gallery it's more apparent that it's upside down |
| 14:56.20 | Fisker- | i didn't see there was a second photo |
| 14:56.49 | Fisker- | but reviewers are basically cumming over the game |
| 14:56.53 | Fisker- | which annoys me like hell |
| 14:58.43 | Fisker- | Bungie has delivered an excellent Campaign mode |
| 14:58.45 | Fisker- | ... |
| 14:58.59 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2 ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | Society, my dear, is like salt water, good to swim in but hard to swallow. - Arthur Stringer |
| 15:00.35 | Josh_Borke | Kaydeethree: ok, that's pretty cool and much funnier once i understood :-) |
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| 15:00.45 | intangir | hey |
| 15:00.49 | Josh_Borke | hi |
| 15:00.51 | intangir | can anyone tell me what time i lost connectioN? |
| 15:01.01 | intangir | check log or scroll up |
| 15:01.06 | wereHamster | 15:50 CET |
| 15:01.25 | Cairenn | 9:49 am edt |
| 15:01.29 | intangir | holy crap hey wereHamster |
| 15:01.41 | Fisker- | oh hi wereHamster |
| 15:01.51 | wereHamster | hi there |
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| 15:01.58 | Fisker- | hes MINE |
| 15:02.05 | intangir | remember me? i was in your #yukon channel for months a while back ;) |
| 15:02.19 | wereHamster | oh it's you! :D |
| 15:02.26 | intangir | the hacker guy ;) |
| 15:02.46 | Fisker- | reported for hacking |
| 15:02.48 | intangir | i was like .. 'am i in the wrong channel?' |
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| 15:04.17 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.44 | wereHamster | that's your channel ;) |
| 15:05.16 | intangir | my home computer lost conn.. |
| 15:05.21 | intangir | damn comcast.. |
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| 15:11.01 | intangir | wereHamster: whats your main? |
| 15:11.17 | wereHamster | main? |
| 15:11.22 | intangir | character |
| 15:11.26 | wereHamster | Shag |
| 15:11.31 | intangir | what server |
| 15:11.33 | wereHamster | Arthas/EU |
| 15:11.44 | wereHamster | !c Shag |
| 15:11.50 | intangir | !vs us Mug'thol Intangir eu Arthas shag |
| 15:11.55 | ThraeBot | intangir: Intangir vs Shag! Intangir has +4 lvls on Shag (70 vs 66); A L70 rogue and a L66 warrior square off!; 23/0/38 vs 13/41/3; Intangir wins by 1271 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 15:12.02 | intangir | lol |
| 15:12.05 | intangir | LOL |
| 15:12.12 | intangir | owned to the extreme!!*** |
| 15:12.46 | wereHamster | well.. you duped money and bought the best gear available.. |
| 15:13.04 | intangir | thats nonsense ;) |
| 15:13.09 | intangir | *shhhh* |
| 15:13.31 | intangir | none of my gear is buyable with money really anyway, cept maybe the helmet |
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| 15:27.13 | intangir | yes |
| 15:27.19 | intangir | thats my home machine getting internet back |
| 15:27.54 | Intangir_ | wee :) |
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| 15:36.08 | Lysistrata | Anyone knows how to Reset the Bartender3 Configuration screen to the middle of the screen or at least how to reset it to be displayed in the visual area? |
| 15:37.41 | Punkie` | right click, go into profiles and change/reset profile |
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| 15:44.11 | Valaron|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.09 | Lysistrata | Hmm OK thanks that did work ^^ |
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| 15:54.30 | TS|Skrom | What is escape artists |
| 15:54.36 | TS|Skrom | cooldown, now? |
| 15:54.47 | TS|Skrom | trying with all my might |
| 15:54.53 | TS|Skrom | escape, senseless |
| 15:54.53 | cog|work | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20589 |
| 15:54.56 | TS|Skrom | broken haikuu :( |
| 15:55.28 | TS|Skrom | zomgnerf |
| 15:55.38 | cog|work | no wai |
| 15:55.45 | TS|Skrom | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1365.0 |
| 15:56.56 | TS|Skrom | how many times they gonna change elune's grace and still get it wrong |
| 15:56.58 | cog|work | :'( |
| 15:57.24 | cog|work | EA is about the only chance I have to kill most ... well... everyone without a healer nearby |
| 15:57.44 | TS|Skrom | while I will agree that fear immune is pretty nice compared to snare immune, 1:45 does seem a bit more in line with the other racials |
| 15:58.07 | TS|Skrom | I think 1:45 is a bit reactionary though :-/ |
| 15:58.12 | TS|Skrom | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.21 | cog|work | the thing is, it doesn't make you immune |
| 15:58.39 | cog|work | it just escapes from what's got you and you can easily be re-snared |
| 15:58.48 | TS|Skrom | oh right, yeah mistype on that |
| 15:58.51 | wereHamster | "Mailboxes are upgraded to handle up to 12 items per mail." - do mailboxes handle more than one item right now? |
| 15:58.53 | TS|Skrom | meant to say snare release |
| 15:59.00 | cog|work | if you're against more than one player, it's essentially useless |
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| 16:03.55 | cog|work | wereHamster: i don't think so |
| 16:05.21 | cog|work | =D Flying Mount added for Engineers. Regular and Epic version. |
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| 16:22.50 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work old new |
| 16:22.52 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
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| 16:25.36 | Intangir | generally i would be against anything that helps a gnome |
| 16:25.38 | Intangir | since i hate all gnomes.. |
| 16:25.47 | Intangir | but there are really way to many damn CCs now |
| 16:26.07 | Intangir | everyone and their mom has stuns and fears and snares and incapacitates and .. everything else |
| 16:26.13 | Intangir | used to be rogues were stun kings |
| 16:26.25 | Cidan | sag_ich_nicht: what were you talking about last night? |
| 16:26.26 | Intangir | now everyone can stun lock |
| 16:26.35 | wereHamster | even a warrior? |
| 16:26.40 | Intangir | ya warriors |
| 16:26.54 | Intangir | warriors stunlock me regularly.. |
| 16:26.58 | Intangir | its very frustrating.. |
| 16:26.59 | clad|away | Does anyone here use Clique on a warlock.. or is able to test for me? |
| 16:27.05 | wereHamster | note how much I know my own class :P |
| 16:27.17 | zenzelezz | Intangir: want to elaborate on how warriors can stunlock? |
| 16:27.21 | Intangir | maces stun procs are a big part of their stuns |
| 16:27.24 | Intangir | charge/intercept stuns |
| 16:27.25 | Intangir | also fears |
| 16:27.30 | Intangir | between the stuns and fears, and hamstrings |
| 16:27.36 | Intangir | a rogue cant touch shit |
| 16:28.00 | zenzelezz | Hamstring is not a stun, nor is Fear. And our fear has 3 minute cooldown |
| 16:28.19 | Intangir | a good warrior can totally CC you to squat |
| 16:28.25 | Intangir | and it happens regularly ;( |
| 16:28.27 | Intangir | to a rogue |
| 16:28.27 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.09 | Intangir | nerf warriors is all im saying ;) |
| 16:29.14 | Intangir | nerf paladins too |
| 16:29.20 | Intangir | im so sick of these warrior/paladin 2v2 teams |
| 16:29.22 | Intangir | thats all you see! |
| 16:29.52 | Intangir | also nerf druid bear form ;) |
| 16:30.17 | Intangir | increase the feral armor bonus talent, and lower their default armor bonus for bear |
| 16:30.18 | wereHamster | nerf GMs ? |
| 16:30.30 | Intangir | if they are to get that insane bearform armor they should at least have to spec feral |
| 16:30.41 | Intangir | ya nerf GMs too ;) |
| 16:30.48 | Intangir | my friend paged a GM the other day |
| 16:30.52 | Intangir | and they accidently banned him somehow |
| 16:30.55 | Intangir | took him 4 days to get unbanned |
| 16:31.06 | Intangir | they didnt give him a reason, they didnt say anything, they just banned him |
| 16:31.09 | Intangir | apparently by mistake |
| 16:31.19 | wereHamster | 4 more days for him to enjoy RL!! |
| 16:31.21 | Intangir | careful next time you page a GM ;) |
| 16:31.56 | TS|Skrom | Nerf Intangir he's benefiting from IRC haste too much |
| 16:31.57 | nevcairiel | how can you page a GM anyway? |
| 16:32.16 | Intangir | nevcairiel: ? |
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| 16:32.24 | Cidan | nevcairiel: use the in game help |
| 16:32.32 | nevcairiel | thats what you mean with paging |
| 16:32.38 | Intangir | TS|Skrom: my fingers haste rating is quite high ;) |
| 16:32.39 | nevcairiel | say "open a request ticket" |
| 16:32.39 | nevcairiel | man :P |
| 16:32.44 | Cidan | nevcairiel: when you submit an in game ticket, you are paging a GM |
| 16:32.51 | Cidan | well in effect, you are paging a GM |
| 16:33.03 | Intangir | nevcairiel: 'page' is shorter than 'open a help ticket, by going into the menu, going to .. etc etc' |
| 16:33.06 | Intangir | hahaha |
| 16:33.15 | nevcairiel | not really, you are opening a support ticket, a available GM looks at the list of open tickets, and pages you |
| 16:33.53 | TS|Skrom | XD |
| 16:33.59 | TS|Skrom | Page fault |
| 16:34.15 | TS|Skrom | that's when the GM tries to determine who's to blame with the ticket |
| 16:34.20 | Intangir | <GM> Fault: you paged me? |
| 16:34.22 | Cidan | You are asking for the help of a GM, the GM doesn't "page" you, the GM talks to you |
| 16:34.33 | Cidan | Thus, the GM answers YOUR page (request) |
| 16:34.47 | Cidan | You don't answer the GM's request (your not paged) |
| 16:34.54 | Cidan | l2english |
| 16:34.57 | Cidan | kthx |
| 16:35.18 | Intangir | *nevcairiel tries to split a new hair* |
| 16:36.26 | nevcairiel | paging strikes me as a direct action with an intended target, not a big fat yell for help where some GM might answer *shrug* |
| 16:37.14 | Cidan | GM's always answer, in due time anyways |
| 16:37.40 | nevcairiel | they hide in the shadows, wait till you logout for one second, and send you a mail |
| 16:37.48 | Cidan | But you can certainly page a large group of people, ie: in a store when someone is needed at the counter, "paging a manager to the front counter..." |
| 16:38.27 | Intangir | one time a GM gave me leader of a guild i had only just joined |
| 16:38.28 | Cidan | The intended target doesn't have to be sigular, :P |
| 16:38.31 | Intangir | while i was offline |
| 16:38.32 | Intangir | mwhahaha |
| 16:38.33 | Intangir | genius |
| 16:38.34 | Cidan | Hah |
| 16:38.53 | Intangir | ofcourse i was leader before on another name ;) that i had deleted |
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| 16:43.33 | afora | Cidan what |
| 16:43.37 | afora | wait |
| 16:43.40 | afora | why do i have this nick |
| 16:43.40 | afora | wtf |
| 16:43.53 | *** join/#wowi-lounge lolinternet (i=bitch2k@85.127.102.189) |
| 16:43.57 | Valaron|Work | Hmm... |
| 16:44.11 | lolinternet | ... |
| 16:44.13 | mikma | lolinternet: /nick newnick works too |
| 16:44.13 | lolinternet | stupid friends going to my PC |
| 16:44.15 | lolinternet | -.- |
| 16:44.17 | lolinternet | anyway |
| 16:44.19 | lolinternet | Cidan what |
| 16:44.21 | lolinternet | no |
| 16:44.31 | lolinternet | because then mIRC will just reset the nick back to the wrong one on a disconnect |
| 16:44.52 | mikma | get a real irc-client then |
| 16:45.25 | Cidan | last night |
| 16:45.28 | Cidan | like near 4 am |
| 16:45.35 | Cidan | you were asking me what I was doing |
| 16:45.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge lolinternet (i=bitch2k@85.127.111.98) |
| 16:46.31 | lolinternet | was talking about the SVN commit |
| 16:46.36 | lolinternet | ~fail inode.at |
| 16:46.37 | purl | inode.at: Fail. |
| 16:46.37 | Cidan | ah |
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| 16:47.05 | Cidan | What's wrong with some minor fixes to hello kitty? |
| 16:47.20 | lolinternet | i meant the new theme. |
| 16:47.34 | Cidan | What of it? |
| 16:47.41 | lolinternet | ...nvm. |
| 16:47.52 | lolinternet | stop adding themes and add more functionality! |
| 16:50.29 | Cidan | eh? |
| 16:50.37 | Cidan | I am, I just didn't commit the new files |
| 16:51.47 | zenzelezz | chicks dig guys who commit |
| 16:52.37 | Valaron|Work | Truer words have never been said. |
| 16:53.42 | Cairenn | lol, amusing usage, but not incorrect ;) |
| 16:55.47 | zenzelezz | I notice the topic... are you by chance subscribed to the tqp-qotd mailing list? |
| 16:56.01 | Cairenn | nope |
| 16:56.17 | zenzelezz | interesting, they just had that one today =) |
| 16:56.43 | Cairenn | quote of the day on iGoogle ;) |
| 16:58.37 | Cairenn | The convert english to yoda-speak plugin, I also have, as well as of the day word, news, current moon phase, of the day joke and various other plugins |
| 16:59.19 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 17:00.06 | zenzelezz | the bad thing about quotations is you often don't get a chance to use them... the author already took the right moment |
| 17:00.13 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 17:01.09 | cog|work | ok... i don't think even /I/ would go this low... http://bash.org/?811062 |
| 17:01.20 | Cairenn | hahahha |
| 17:01.32 | Cairenn | omg, I love it! |
| 17:01.34 | zenzelezz | I so want to use that with TC |
| 17:01.54 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2 ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | <MrAnthrope> Uhg. My graphics card keeps crashing. |
| 17:02.03 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh. My husband would use that pun... |
| 17:02.41 | cog|work | Cairenn: did you purposefully omit the punch line? :P |
| 17:02.51 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2 ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | MrAnthrope - Uhg. My graphics card keeps crashing. |
| 17:03.01 | Cairenn | grrrr, it keeps giving me an error message |
| 17:03.18 | cog|work | probably 'cause of the line break... put it into a text editor first and take out the newline |
| 17:03.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2 ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | <MrAnthrope> Uhg. My graphics card keeps crashing. <knoeki> you obviously have a drunk driver ;) |
| 17:03.51 | Cairenn | hah, that was it, thanks |
| 17:04.13 | cog|work | Here's a thread for anyone annoyed about the sound changes (*cough* Tem|AFK *cough*) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043719773&sid=1 |
| 17:04.34 | cog|work | I'll spare the channel for now though |
| 17:04.44 | zenzelezz | Mr. T pities the fool who don't like puns |
| 17:05.57 | Valaron|Work | Hmm.. someone else keeps up with updates at bash.org |
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| 17:09.49 | lolinternet | i have a creative card and my sound quality has improved with 2.2 and i finally got 5.1 sound when i had none before. |
| 17:09.50 | lolinternet | fail |
| 17:10.22 | cog|work | lolinternet: it seems to have nice channel support but the atmosphere was ripped out |
| 17:10.41 | cog|work | without pretty severely impacting performance |
| 17:11.02 | lolinternet | well that sucks |
| 17:11.30 | lolinternet | but it looks like they really missed the hardware path |
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| 17:12.26 | lolinternet | actually |
| 17:12.27 | wereHamster | Looks like WoW/Windows has problems with its scheduler (sound mixing thread doesn't get enough cpu cycles to mix the sound) |
| 17:12.34 | lolinternet | yes |
| 17:12.37 | lolinternet | i noticed that |
| 17:12.45 | lolinternet | i'll be a bitch now |
| 17:12.49 | lolinternet | and repost that thread on eu general |
| 17:12.50 | lolinternet | >:D |
| 17:12.54 | cog|work | haha |
| 17:13.20 | cog|work | wereHamster: yeah... I get a lot more missed sounds now |
| 17:13.37 | dreamss | thats why creative was like "u guys might need a hand there" |
| 17:13.39 | cog|work | I never hear the final tone in the apexis vibrations game |
| 17:14.24 | Lopeppeppy | I sometimes miss tones as well, I just go by the little light beams and hope. |
| 17:14.26 | wereHamster | wine has always supported only software mixer (and wine used to have major problems with soud mixing up until recently). |
| 17:15.25 | wereHamster | but since wine was fixed I haven't had problems with sound underruns |
| 17:16.14 | lolinternet | cog|work: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1015903842&postId=10157927134&sid=1#0 |
| 17:17.12 | wereHamster | it would be interesting to see if only users with creative soundcards have sound problems, because most consumer-level cards don't have a hardware mixer |
| 17:18.19 | Cidan | This has nothing to do with Creative or the sound cards. There is a trend, a wake up as it were, most people are realizing that hardware mixers for personal computers are worthless. |
| 17:18.36 | zenzelezz | I've been mixing hardware for years! |
| 17:19.00 | Cidan | Why would you limit different sound effects to a small subset of people who have hardware mixers when you can switch to a software mixer and offer the features to everyone? |
| 17:19.11 | Cidan | Before it wasn't a good idea, CPU's couldn't keep up. |
| 17:19.50 | Cidan | That is a none-issue, for the most part, and software mixers will continue to get better |
| 17:19.54 | dreamss | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/28 |
| 17:19.56 | dreamss | LOL |
| 17:20.21 | Cidan | So yes, the move to software mixers and the dumping of Creative is a _good_ move however FMOD is crap. :D |
| 17:20.56 | Cidan | If Creative had any brains they would stop bitching and work to create a sound mixer API like FMOD of their own |
| 17:21.22 | dreamss | then they cant sell 300 buck sound cards |
| 17:21.37 | Cidan | But they can sell the sound system to devs |
| 17:21.43 | zenzelezz | I still like my Creative card. They've had driver issues, and not all parts of their cards are as useful anymore, but they still offer some things |
| 17:21.51 | Cidan | lol |
| 17:22.21 | Cidan | This is what I read: I still love my card, sure it doesn't work sometimes, the features aren't all there, and the ones that are I don't use, but it's cool! |
| 17:22.28 | Cidan | :P |
| 17:22.38 | dreamss | "it has lights!" |
| 17:23.41 | dreamss | world server down |
| 17:23.43 | dreamss | great |
| 17:23.44 | cog|work | Cidan: what's wrong with the option to do both? Besides, blizz's software mixer dropped my framerate about 20% which is, imo, unacceptable. |
| 17:23.46 | Cidan | wahoo |
| 17:24.01 | Cidan | That's a bug with FMOD |
| 17:24.11 | Cidan | a known one, they are getting it fixed |
| 17:24.16 | Cidan | It's causing some issues |
| 17:24.40 | zenzelezz | so let me get this straight... so far 2.2's fmod has both lowered framerates and increased latency? |
| 17:24.50 | Cidan | For some |
| 17:24.55 | dreamss | and lowered sound quality |
| 17:24.58 | wereHamster | latency as in 'ping'? |
| 17:25.04 | Cidan | Only for some, not all. |
| 17:25.05 | cog|work | only when I enable reverb effects which used to be handled in hardware |
| 17:25.13 | zenzelezz | I don't know hamster, I've only heard "latency" and I don't have the problem myself |
| 17:25.17 | Cidan | For me, it works just fine with no slow downs |
| 17:25.26 | Cidan | But some people can't even play |
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| 17:25.34 | Cidan | there is no sound at all and the FPS drops to like, 15 |
| 17:25.40 | Cidan | and 700ms ping to the server |
| 17:25.56 | Cidan | but if you disable your sound card in windows (lol?) the problems go away |
| 17:26.03 | Cidan | sans the sound, of course, :P |
| 17:26.03 | dreamss | unless pci bandwith incrised |
| 17:26.21 | wereHamster | probably those who use Vista: it has problems when both network and sound hardware is used, Vista prioritizes sound hardware over network |
| 17:26.33 | dreamss | LOL |
| 17:26.36 | Cidan | I have Vista and have no such issue |
| 17:26.41 | Cidan | Like I said, it's hit or miss |
| 17:26.46 | dreamss | vista is the main reason wow went software |
| 17:26.51 | Cidan | It seems to be partially driver based |
| 17:26.52 | dreamss | :P |
| 17:27.02 | cog|work | i have vista too and don't have latency problems |
| 17:27.11 | foxlit | Growl |
| 17:27.13 | wereHamster | fmod has a openal backend IIRC, so why would they do it because of vista? |
| 17:27.16 | Cidan | But I also don't have a drop in FPS |
| 17:27.19 | cog|work | though that could be because of my nvidia chipset which does a lot of the TCP/IP stack in hardware |
| 17:27.41 | foxlit | math analysis book defines the complex exponential function rather than proving it. |
| 17:27.43 | Cidan | wereHamster: Vista doesn't support DirectSound, and WoW doesn't use OpenAL in windows |
| 17:27.51 | Cidan | er |
| 17:27.53 | Cidan | er |
| 17:27.53 | dreamss | cog did u had to disable features on ur nvidia network card? |
| 17:27.59 | wereHamster | You sure it can't use openal?? |
| 17:28.03 | Cidan | Vista doesn't support hardware direct sound |
| 17:28.03 | cog|work | dreamss: nope |
| 17:28.06 | Cidan | I didn't say it CAN'T |
| 17:28.13 | Cidan | I said it DOESN'T, :P |
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| 17:28.44 | dreamss | it was a feature of dx10 |
| 17:28.46 | dreamss | heh |
| 17:28.50 | Cidan | Why they didn't switch to OpenAL? Who knows, could have been too much work for too little pay off, or it might have been some bad coding |
| 17:28.55 | wereHamster | I thought creative released hw accelerated openal drivers for vista.. |
| 17:28.57 | Cidan | I'm sure they had a reason |
| 17:29.04 | Cidan | They did indeed. |
| 17:29.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge kaiden-- (n=kaiden@63.229.62.12) |
| 17:29.13 | Cidan | But that will fail in the end, I promise you. |
| 17:29.28 | Cidan | No one is going to want to use OpenAL after years and years of using DirectSound API's |
| 17:29.47 | Cidan | Just to support a *small* subset of people with Creative cards |
| 17:29.51 | zenzelezz | games have already been using OpenAL |
| 17:29.54 | Cidan | Cost vs Value is not worth it |
| 17:30.00 | Cidan | Some, certainly not all. |
| 17:30.11 | zenzelezz | of course not all |
| 17:30.25 | zenzelezz | half or more of all games are sloppily coded anyhow |
| 17:30.41 | Cidan | Half or more of all anything is sloppily coded, :P |
| 17:30.56 | Josh_Borke | we're talking about Conspiracy, right? |
| 17:30.56 | Josh_Borke | ;-) |
| 17:30.59 | zenzelezz | yes, but non-game applications don't interest me for this discussion |
| 17:31.03 | Cidan | Bite me, :P |
| 17:31.10 | Josh_Borke | purl, bite Cidan |
| 17:31.11 | purl | ACTION takes a big bite out of Cidan's jugular vein |
| 17:31.17 | Cidan | :( |
| 17:31.38 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Cidan |
| 17:31.39 | purl | Cidan: Fail. |
| 17:34.19 | Shadowed | So, anyone I could su--interest in helping out test a script for uploading mods to WoWI through the desktop? Can grab it from http://wowiuploader.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/WoWIUploader/ (.class file) arguments are here http://shadowed.pastey.net/74685 |
| 17:34.29 | Shadowed | Downside is that it requires Java 1.5 because command line is a pain |
| 17:36.03 | Shadowed | Shouldn't really have any bugs, mostly just want to get more test cases to be sure of it. |
| 17:36.18 | Shadowed | s/bugs/big bugs/ |
| 17:40.11 | Thunder_Child | i hate you all, especialy you zenzelezz |
| 17:40.18 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 17:41.48 | Thunder_Child | and at what point did i become the official lightning rod for puns? |
| 17:42.03 | zenzelezz | when you spoke out harshly against them |
| 17:42.29 | Thunder_Child | uhhh....in that case, i love them |
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| 17:46.16 | cog|work | hahaha http://bash.org/?810048 |
| 17:47.28 | Cairen1 | lol |
| 17:48.23 | Thunder_Child | Cairen1? imposter |
| 17:49.05 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 17:49.25 | Cairenn | nope |
| 17:52.56 | Thunder_Child | lol http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/rube-goldberg/amazing-rube-goldberg-machine-goes-on-and-on-does-nothing-305606.php?autoplay=true |
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| 17:56.44 | cog|work | that's pretty cool |
| 17:56.52 | cog|work | it would be more zomg if it was filmed in one take ;) |
| 17:57.45 | Thunder_Child | are you sure it wasnt and simply jumped from camera to camera? |
| 17:58.26 | cog|work | Not certain, but it has the same slight loss of credibility either way... |
| 17:58.52 | kamdis | picky picky cog :P |
| 17:59.02 | cog|work | zomghai |
| 17:59.06 | Thunder_Child | i dont think they could keep up with it the whole time |
| 17:59.06 | kamdis | Hai! |
| 17:59.31 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: they should've made a parallel rube goldberg machine to drive the camera :P |
| 17:59.37 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 17:59.46 | Thunder_Child | win. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/digital-downloads/radiohead-offers-new-album-for-whatever-you-want-to-pay-305566.php |
| 17:59.57 | kamdis | now that would have been truly impressive, but it doesn't look liek they had the house space for it. |
| 18:09.23 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: that's exactly the kind of innovation the music industry needs |
| 18:09.29 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 18:13.34 | dreamss | they gonna enable sound chant now on my realm |
| 18:15.47 | dreamss | "this realm will be undergoing a restart shortly in order to enable voice chat." |
| 18:16.19 | KarlKFI | grats |
| 18:16.29 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... has /. really been up for 10 years? |
| 18:16.55 | dreamss | "shortly" |
| 18:17.05 | KarlKFI | guess so kay |
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| 18:17.37 | Nom- | Anyone know a good spot to aoe farm mark of sargeras/ fel armament ? |
| 18:18.01 | Nom- | Which means lots of melee mobs i can round up in groups of 10+ |
| 18:19.06 | cog|work | maybe the demons outside the eco dome midrealm or w/e |
| 18:19.39 | KarlKFI | or the ones on the west side of smv |
| 18:19.52 | KarlKFI | or any fel camp |
| 18:20.36 | Nom- | yeah, the key is finding melee mobs for me... |
| 18:20.46 | Nom- | they can hit hard, as long as they don't spell cast |
| 18:20.48 | Nom- | spell > plate |
| 18:21.33 | zenzelezz | most demons are casters of some sort, aren't they? |
| 18:22.45 | KarlKFI | felguards |
| 18:23.51 | Cairenn | omfg! http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=yL_-1d9OSdk&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/yL_-1d9OSdk/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKI_A2rGRq96POdtYegzwGY&rel=1 |
| 18:24.25 | Cairenn | thank you Kirkburn! |
| 18:26.06 | Kirkburn | My pleasure :) |
| 18:28.45 | Polarina | I want to write a addon that can see if someone has you in his/her ignore list. :) |
| 18:29.52 | dreamss | a soft ignore list that just wont show you their message would be badass |
| 18:30.02 | dreamss | so they dont get the "has you on ignore" |
| 18:30.15 | Polarina | True... |
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| 18:30.45 | dreamss | that way your script wont work :P |
| 18:31.01 | Polarina | But why would anyone use a soft ignore list? |
| 18:31.02 | Intangir | Cairenn: whats the youtube about? im at work |
| 18:31.19 | Intangir | Polarina: theres one that you gotta prove your not a spammer before you see their text |
| 18:31.22 | Cairenn | just silly |
| 18:31.33 | dreamss | cause ignore list only works when the person is logged in |
| 18:31.52 | Intangir | for when you just gotta ignore every mother fucker in the channel |
| 18:32.06 | Intangir | *in a samuel l jackson voice* |
| 18:32.19 | dreamss | i see a gun |
| 18:32.54 | Intangir | or am i just happy to see you? |
| 18:33.37 | Intangir | i saw motd say they were turning on voice chat for all servers |
| 18:34.12 | KarlKFI | there's a list at the login screen |
| 18:34.30 | cog|work | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 18:35.52 | Thunder_Child | hmm...in the related category of the youtube video is "Fucked by a chicken" |
| 18:39.48 | Intangir | whats the 'show launcher' checkbox for? |
| 18:40.44 | Thunder_Child | to show the launcher |
| 18:40.53 | Intangir | which launcher? |
| 18:41.01 | Thunder_Child | game launcher |
| 18:41.06 | Thunder_Child | with newsfeed |
| 18:41.26 | Intangir | in the 3d client? or the little dialog you can start it from? |
| 18:41.44 | Intangir | cause i mean.. how will it show me a tool that launches the program im already running ;) |
| 18:41.47 | Intangir | doesnt make any senese |
| 18:41.49 | Intangir | sense.. |
| 18:42.02 | Thunder_Child | it's what pops up before you start wow |
| 18:42.22 | Thunder_Child | check it, exit wow, then launch it again, see what i mean |
| 18:43.32 | Thunder_Child | although if your shortcut goes directly to wow.exe (like mine) it skips it completly |
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| 18:44.17 | Intangir | oh mine goes directly to wow |
| 18:44.21 | Intangir | whats it usually goto? |
| 18:45.20 | dreamss | voice chat sucks ass |
| 18:45.29 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:46.55 | wereHamster | wait.. voice chat was disabled all the time since 2.2 release? |
| 18:47.03 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:47.12 | Josh_Borke | no, it's just now starting to be enabled |
| 18:47.14 | zenzelezz | it was enabled briefly on some servers, but problems were discovered and it was disabled again |
| 18:47.31 | Intangir | ya its basically been disabled on all severs but like 12 |
| 18:47.36 | Intangir | and ya its really buggy.. |
| 18:47.36 | dreamss | they just turned ours on |
| 18:47.39 | Intangir | and bad quality |
| 18:47.39 | dreamss | sucked ass |
| 18:47.40 | wereHamster | what about EU servers? |
| 18:47.46 | zenzelezz | not on yet |
| 18:47.50 | Intangir | im not sure how ventrilo does it, but ventrilo has best quality by far |
| 18:48.09 | Intangir | its like ventrilo cleans it up before encoding it |
| 18:48.11 | dreamss | its the codecs |
| 18:48.14 | dreamss | hehe |
| 18:48.15 | wereHamster | which codec does blizzard use? |
| 18:48.16 | Intangir | they use the same codecs |
| 18:48.25 | Intangir | ventrilo and TS at least use same codecs |
| 18:48.30 | Intangir | but ventrilo's quality is way better somehow |
| 18:48.43 | wereHamster | most TS servers use speex |
| 18:48.44 | Intangir | i think maybe it uses an extra lib over it before compressing |
| 18:48.57 | Intangir | ya vent uses speex too |
| 18:48.58 | Intangir | or can |
| 18:49.13 | Intangir | speex quality on vent is better than speex on TS, even with about the same bitrates |
| 18:49.18 | Intangir | its quite perplexing ;) |
| 18:49.41 | Intangir | whatever they are doing, they should figure it out and do it in wow too |
| 18:49.57 | Intangir | i would say it must be using some sort of directsound filters over it, but even with direct sound off, it still sounds good |
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| 18:52.49 | Intangir | wish wow would figure it out and copy it though |
| 18:52.51 | Intangir | it really helps |
| 18:52.58 | Intangir | id bet wow's quality is terribly low too |
| 18:53.05 | Intangir | terrible bitrate |
| 18:53.10 | Intangir | so they have less load on their servers |
| 18:53.16 | Intangir | you get what you pay for |
| 18:54.03 | Iriel | The voice quality of wow's voice chat isn't that bad, certainly better than XBox Live for example. |
| 18:54.04 | cog|work | voice chat's on a different server |
| 18:54.27 | Iriel | But they did say at blizzcon that they've got tighter bitrate limits than the dedicated voice solutions. |
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| 18:55.30 | Intangir | it sounds pretty bad |
| 18:55.42 | Intangir | actually you know it sounds about equal to the quality ive heard on TS |
| 18:55.49 | Intangir | which is useable |
| 18:55.53 | Intangir | but still not as good as vent |
| 18:56.09 | Intangir | my biggest gripe with it is it doesnt seem to work on wine ;) |
| 18:56.11 | Iriel | I suppose it's all subjective based on one's definition of 'pretty bad' |
| 18:56.11 | Intangir | i press the button |
| 18:56.14 | Intangir | half the time they dont hear me |
| 18:56.18 | Intangir | the other half they say it sounds broken up |
| 18:56.37 | cog|work | sounds like a hardware issue on your end |
| 18:56.52 | Iriel | Yeah, that sounds like your drivers or hardware dont work well |
| 18:57.12 | Iriel | (... with wow, at any rate) |
| 18:57.18 | cog|work | (/nod) |
| 18:57.27 | Iriel | My tests with OSX and a USB headset were pretty good |
| 18:57.43 | Intangir | its always worked fine in ventrilo |
| 18:57.45 | Intangir | which also runs thru wine |
| 18:57.47 | Intangir | perfect |
| 18:57.50 | cog|work | so were mine with vista 64 and an analog headset |
| 18:58.09 | Iriel | Well, wow has a habit of tickling things differently than other apps |
| 18:58.10 | Intangir | also when i did the test in the voice settings dialog, it sounded fine |
| 18:58.17 | Intangir | but when i tried to talk to other people with it, had issues |
| 18:58.21 | wereHamster | Intangir, vent probably uses DSound directly, WoW has to go through fmodex |
| 18:58.33 | Intangir | wereHamster: i wasnt using dsound on vent either |
| 18:58.35 | Iriel | it could also be an issue with the network stack on your machine and wow's voice network code |
| 18:58.50 | Intangir | Iriel: that sounds possible actually |
| 18:58.53 | Josh_Borke | purl, tickle Iriel |
| 18:58.54 | purl | ACTION jumps on Iriel, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 18:58.55 | Intangir | cause it worked locally, but not over net.. |
| 18:59.01 | Intangir | maybe it uses some new port |
| 18:59.10 | Intangir | or its UDP, and my router doesnt know what to do with it |
| 18:59.39 | Intangir | Iriel: ya i think your on to something |
| 18:59.49 | wereHamster | if you send packets to localhost they don't go through the whole network stack |
| 18:59.58 | Intangir | ya |
| 19:00.06 | Intangir | it may very well be a networking issue |
| 19:00.17 | Intangir | i was getting audio from others though.. that wouldve been the more iffy thing |
| 19:00.21 | Intangir | shit i dont know whats wrong |
| 19:00.22 | Iriel | tcpdump is your friend |
| 19:00.29 | Intangir | surely others will have an issue and someone will figure it out ;) |
| 19:00.30 | Iriel | at least to discover what's going where |
| 19:00.34 | wereHamster | wireshark? |
| 19:00.56 | Intangir | i generally just sit back and let someone else figure it out ;) |
| 19:01.00 | Intangir | thats what i love about linux |
| 19:01.03 | Intangir | someone else always figures it out |
| 19:01.06 | Intangir | and i get it for free hehe |
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| 19:01.45 | Intangir | like i wanted to know how to capture video from games, and rather than do it myself, i just waited for wereHamster to do it |
| 19:01.48 | Intangir | thx for that ;) |
| 19:01.49 | Intangir | hahahaha |
| 19:03.25 | wereHamster | my pleasure |
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| 19:24.21 | brden | Hello I am new to wow addons and was looking for some help. I have made this addon http://wowi.pastey.net/74687 and it should show a blank window on the screen when I login. I do not get anything on the screen. Would somebody mind taking a look at it and letting me know what is wrong? |
| 19:24.55 | Josh_Borke | brden: check framexml.log |
| 19:25.06 | Josh_Borke | brden: you have a typo in the very first definition: visable |
| 19:25.33 | brden | ok i will look at that. i take it is is in the logs dir under wow |
| 19:25.37 | cog|work | yes |
| 19:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:26.50 | sag_ich_nicht | new tactic for CoT2 normal |
| 19:26.55 | sag_ich_nicht | holy paladin aggros all the adds |
| 19:26.58 | sag_ich_nicht | the dds kill the mob |
| 19:26.59 | brden | i removed the visable part and reloaded it and the logs says that it cannot parse my xml file |
| 19:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | then you kill the adds |
| 19:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 19:32.02 | Cidan | so I was sitting at the lounge at school and this chick was playing Illusion of Gaia on her laptop, right? So I walk up to her and say, "That's a pretty cool game, I loved it." She smiled, we talked a bit, then she asked me for my name, I said, "I'm AJ" |
| 19:32.08 | Cidan | I asked her for her name, she's like |
| 19:32.25 | Cidan | I'M CHIBIJEN ^______________________________^ *does the peace sign with hands* |
| 19:32.53 | Cidan | Then she loads up a ROM of Sailor Moon and points to Chibiusa in the game "THAT'S WHERE I GOT MY NAME" |
| 19:32.56 | Cidan | ... |
| 19:33.07 | Cidan | Oh the will it took to not punch her. |
| 19:33.09 | Cide | did you turn around and walk away? |
| 19:33.19 | Cidan | I did indeed. |
| 19:33.25 | Cide | well done |
| 19:34.08 | cog|work | <3 this headline: Thief nailed selling a million stolen screws |
| 19:34.22 | Industrial | :p |
| 19:34.41 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 19:34.59 | brden | i was wondering why i would get a cannot parse xml file in the log. I have commented out all the lines except the <UI> one and the </UI> and i still get that error |
| 19:35.15 | zenzelezz | UI or Ui ? |
| 19:35.39 | cog|work | brden: do you have a toc file? |
| 19:35.42 | brden | the very frist line of the add xml file |
| 19:35.44 | brden | yes |
| 19:35.44 | cog|work | is your folder in the right location? |
| 19:35.47 | brden | yes |
| 19:36.01 | brden | it says that it found my toc file but cannot part the xml |
| 19:36.04 | cog|work | and your toc file loads your xml? |
| 19:36.42 | brden | this is what my log says 10/1 14:32:17.041 Loading add-on bossinfo |
| 19:36.43 | brden | 10/1 14:32:17.041 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\bossinfo\bossinfo.toc |
| 19:36.43 | brden | 10/1 14:32:17.041 Couldn't parse XML in Interface\AddOns\bossinfo\bossinfo.xml |
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| 19:37.12 | cog|work | tags are case sensitive... |
| 19:37.17 | cog|work | look at your closing Ui tag |
| 19:37.31 | zenzelezz | hey, I already said that |
| 19:37.33 | brden | ok i see it now |
| 19:37.45 | cog|work | zenzelezz: :P |
| 19:37.52 | brden | i didn't know it was case sensitive |
| 19:37.54 | brden | sorry |
| 19:37.58 | cog|work | brden: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML <------ will help you catch errors |
| 19:38.01 | brden | my mess up |
| 19:38.19 | brden | i don't have visual studio i am using notepad :) |
| 19:38.25 | cog|work | exactly why i linked it |
| 19:38.36 | cog|work | read the Visual Studio section |
| 19:38.38 | cog|work | :P |
| 19:38.54 | cog|work | and you shouldn't use notepad for anything. evar. |
| 19:38.56 | cog|work | :P |
| 19:39.15 | Wraanger | cog: you are not quite right =) notepad is good ...to some extent =) |
| 19:39.17 | Cidan | hah |
| 19:39.18 | Cide | except making notes |
| 19:39.20 | Industrial | bah geist dowsnt catch mouse3 as a bindable button |
| 19:39.24 | Cidan | I use Notepad sometimes, :P |
| 19:39.46 | cog|work | I use SciTE for everything I used to use notepad for :P |
| 19:39.59 | Josh_Borke | i use vim[b].[/b] |
| 19:40.08 | cog|work | it starts up pretty much just as fast and has way too many goodies |
| 19:40.29 | Industrial | i use [b]vim[/b]. |
| 19:40.30 | brden | ok it works now thanks :) and i will check out that link |
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| 19:40.54 | Josh_Borke | i was emphasizing the period, as in end of discussion :-P |
| 19:40.55 | Josh_Borke | ~fail Industrial |
| 19:40.56 | purl | Industrial: Fail. |
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| 19:49.41 | Intangir | !c us Mug'thol Intangir |
| 19:49.44 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir, Level 70 Undead Rogue (23/0/38). 10714 HP; 3555 Armour; 1588 AP; 306.800 Melee DPS; 30.31% melee crit; 55 melee hit; 27.87% dodge; 397 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1786 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25awdw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qz8hn ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 15:49:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:50.45 | Intangir | !c u Illidan Furi |
| 19:50.52 | Intangir | !c us Illidan Furi |
| 19:50.54 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Furi, Level 70 Undead Rogue (19/42/0). 9864 HP; 4032 Armour; 1888 AP; 427.200 Melee DPS; 31.68% melee crit; 235 melee hit; 35.61% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1181 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25gglq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33k8he ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 15:51:02 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:51.08 | Intangir | that guy is disgusting |
| 19:51.46 | Intangir | lol i have more DBR than him though? |
| 19:51.57 | Josh_Borke | more HP |
| 19:52.01 | Intangir | !vs us Illidan Furi us Mug'thol Intangir |
| 19:52.02 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Furi vs Intangir! Two 70 rogues square off!; 19/42/0 vs 23/0/38; Intangir wins by 605 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:52.03 | Josh_Borke | more resilience |
| 19:52.12 | Intangir | wow it weights those pretty high |
| 19:52.37 | Intangir | id LOVE to have those swords |
| 19:52.48 | Intangir | double warglaive of azzinoth |
| 19:52.49 | Intangir | holy shit |
| 19:52.52 | wereHamster | what's TBR? |
| 19:53.05 | zenzelezz | ~tbr |
| 19:53.06 | purl | tbr is, like, ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 19:53.49 | Intangir | man my spec is gonna be godly after next patch if they put all that subltety love in there |
| 19:54.01 | TS|Skrom | anyone here play city of villains? |
| 19:54.10 | wereHamster | purl should react on "what's $FOO?" and give the appropriate answer :-/ |
| 19:54.34 | Iriel | TS|Skrom: I did for a bit after release, but it was too similar to CoH so I stopped |
| 19:54.53 | TS|Skrom | Am I missing something or do they not have a "healing" class? |
| 19:55.33 | wereHamster | !vs eu Arthas Tuck eu Arthas Zuck |
| 19:55.38 | ThraeBot | wereHamster: Tuck vs Zuck! A L70 priest and a L70 rogue square off!; 27/34/0 vs 20/41/0; Zuck wins by 894 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 19:55.44 | Josh_Borke | what's werehamster |
| 19:55.46 | Intangir | OWNED |
| 19:55.49 | Josh_Borke | what's owned |
| 19:55.54 | Josh_Borke | ~wtf tbr |
| 19:55.55 | wereHamster | tuck is my brother :P |
| 19:56.15 | Intangir | ~wtf PWNED |
| 19:56.19 | Intangir | hehe |
| 19:56.40 | Intangir | ~wtf aybabtu |
| 19:56.53 | Iriel | TS|Skrom: You're not missing anything, you'd take healing powers as a choice instead of having a 'healing archetype' |
| 19:57.00 | Intangir | !vs eu Arthas Zuck us Mug'thol Intangir |
| 19:57.02 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Zuck vs Intangir! Two 70 rogues square off!; 20/41/0 vs 23/0/38; Zuck wins by 107 TBRs! |
| 19:57.07 | Intangir | whoa that was close |
| 19:57.23 | Intangir | !c eu arthas zuck |
| 19:57.24 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Zuck, Level 70 Dwarf Rogue (20/41/0). 11290 HP; 1351 AP; 339.600 Melee DPS; 22.98% melee crit; 43 melee hit; 20.76% dodge; 246 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1892 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26rah3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2syjkr ][ Updated: Mon Oct 1 15:55:45 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:57.33 | TS|Skrom | interesting |
| 19:57.42 | TS|Skrom | did they rework defenders? I stopped playing before CoV |
| 19:59.30 | Iriel | I dont know, I didn't go back to the CoH side after CoV came out, I just tried V for about 3 months then cancelled again |
| 19:59.48 | Industrial | !vs eu grim batol seryan eu grim batol akkarin |
| 19:59.53 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Seryan vs Akkarin! Two 35 hunters square off!; Akkarin wins by 2 TBRs! |
| 19:59.57 | TS|Skrom | thanks |
| 20:00.00 | Industrial | fucks sake |
| 20:00.58 | Industrial | cog|work: wtb "CogsBar: Bars locked" only on manual lock and not every reload :3 |
| 20:02.13 | kamdis | http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/586/wowscrnshot100107155334yx8.jpg |
| 20:02.14 | kamdis | :( |
| 20:02.17 | cog|work | Industrial: write me a patch |
| 20:02.20 | kamdis | that makes me very very sad |
| 20:03.16 | cog|work | kamdis: /2? |
| 20:03.38 | kamdis | just the UI in general |
| 20:04.00 | kamdis | it took like 3 lovely design ideas and mashed them together |
| 20:04.27 | kamdis | though now that you mention it, the /2 is pretty depressing |
| 20:04.36 | kamdis | Thanks :P |
| 20:04.40 | cog|work | :P |
| 20:05.15 | kamdis | I suppose my righteous indignation is competely invalid since I don't design my own UI anymore. |
| 20:05.24 | kamdis | I r hypocrite |
| 20:05.35 | cog|work | heh |
| 20:06.14 | cog|work | i don't do much to prettify mine at all except ADAPT |
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| 20:06.29 | cog|work | everything else is pretty much just a side-effect of the mods I use |
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| 20:07.11 | cog|work | Still pretty current: http://ctscreens.net/7410 |
| 20:07.39 | cog|work | usually have MonkeyQuest minimized while playing |
| 20:08.34 | Industrial | cog|work: ok |
| 20:09.27 | cog|work | Industrial: sorry :P I hardly have any time to do anything with my mods right now... |
| 20:10.13 | kamdis | og: at least it's organized and you can see to play |
| 20:10.18 | kamdis | *cog |
| 20:10.25 | TS|Skrom | why do I find myself inexorably drawn to CoH |
| 20:10.32 | TS|Skrom | I know how much it really sucks and what a grind it ius |
| 20:10.40 | TS|Skrom | but the draw.... the draw is there, calling me |
| 20:10.43 | Iriel | heh |
| 20:10.55 | Industrial | cog|work: move line 271 below line 214 in CogsBar.lua |
| 20:10.56 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:11.02 | Iriel | sign up for some betas (or pre-order and get them for sure)? Tabula Rasa? Hellgate London? |
| 20:11.05 | TS|Skrom | I just can't help thinking... "what if they fixed it, what if it's fun" |
| 20:11.17 | Fisker- | down with hellgate! |
| 20:11.23 | TS|Skrom | "if they fix it, I will come" |
| 20:11.28 | TS|Skrom | whoa, double entendre ^^ |
| 20:12.30 | Iriel | Hellgate's not too horrible, though it's a bit "content constrained" at present |
| 20:13.12 | Fisker- | i raise my ascii middlefinger |
| 20:13.21 | Fisker- | want preorder bonus or gtfo |
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| 20:21.14 | Cidan | I really do want to try Hellgate |
| 20:21.23 | Cidan | Though I have my doubts |
| 20:22.04 | Intangir | ~wtf gtfo |
| 20:22.08 | Intangir | lol ;) |
| 20:22.22 | Intangir | ~wtf rtfmn |
| 20:22.26 | Intangir | ~wtf rtfm |
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| 20:22.34 | Intangir | fine.. ;) |
| 20:22.35 | Intangir | ya right |
| 20:22.56 | Cidan | ~wtf wtf |
| 20:23.00 | Intangir | ~wtf qq |
| 20:23.25 | TS|Skrom | http://cityofheroes.gameamp.com/coh/viewLevels anyone can crack the code on what the red lines mean? for the life of me I can't find the legened :D |
| 20:23.53 | Cidan | I played CoH to about level 16 |
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| 20:24.00 | Cidan | Then once I could free fly, forget it, it was over |
| 20:24.04 | Cidan | all I did was fly around |
| 20:24.05 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:24.10 | TS|Skrom | haha |
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| 20:24.34 | TS|Skrom | I have to say I really enjoyed the concept of that game. I actually made backstories for some of my characters -- first time for me in an online game |
| 20:24.44 | Cidan | I agree, I loved it. |
| 20:24.46 | foxlit | 6, 14, and 20? |
| 20:24.51 | Iriel | I think the red lines are the levels you get to pick a new power set |
| 20:25.41 | Kaydeethree | >>>111-69 |
| 20:25.43 | TS|Skrom | ohhh yeah I think you are right Iriel, 6 and 14 was when you could first do travel |
| 20:26.01 | TS|Skrom | 20 was the "group travel" usually, or when you could take the fourth power in a power pool |
| 20:27.05 | Kaydeethree | our meter's gotta be busted... 42k gallons since august 2? yeah, right. we'd be swimming in it |
| 20:27.36 | zenzelezz | you do look a little bloated lately |
| 20:28.09 | Intangir | do yall watch heroes? |
| 20:28.15 | Intangir | whats up with this new season premier.. |
| 20:28.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Those 3 red lines indicate when you can pick certain tiers of powers from auxiliary power pools. |
| 20:28.56 | ZealotOnAStick | You can take the first 2 powers in a pool at 6+, the third power at 14+ (presuming you have at least one of the first 2 already) and the last power at 20+ (presuming you have 2 of the first 3 powers) |
| 20:29.06 | Cidan | I stopped watching Heroes about half way through season 1 |
| 20:29.12 | Cidan | It got to be too Dragon Ball Z-ish |
| 20:29.15 | Cidan | nothing ever happened. |
| 20:30.35 | Intangir | lol |
| 20:30.38 | Intangir | i love dragonballZ |
| 20:31.10 | Intangir | the new naruto episodes have taken 'make an episode where nothing happens' to the next level.. |
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| 20:31.21 | Intangir | they had like 3 episodes, 60 minutes of animation |
| 20:31.32 | Intangir | that was supposed to have fallen in the span of 30 seconds in the shows time |
| 20:31.43 | Intangir | anime time dialation |
| 20:32.02 | cog|work | omg... I just got forwarded a "best pumpkins" message from my mom... It had a goatse.cx jack-o-lantern :| |
| 20:32.10 | cog|work | (among others) |
| 20:32.15 | Kaydeethree | nothing compared to bleach when I gave up: 22 minutes of "I'm more powerful than you!" "No, I'm more powerful!" "No, me!" "No, me!" ad infinitum |
| 20:32.18 | Kaydeethree | cog|work, wtf? |
| 20:32.27 | Intangir | Kaydeethree: lol |
| 20:32.27 | Cidan | Kaydeethree: I did too! |
| 20:32.33 | Intangir | i havent seen that one |
| 20:32.34 | Cidan | I just gave bleach up |
| 20:32.34 | Intangir | maybe i wont |
| 20:33.33 | Cidan | Though I hear after the Soul Society arc it gets a bit better |
| 20:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work, that is INCREDIBLE |
| 20:35.20 | bleeter | cog|work: wget -q -O - http://www.goatse.fr/contrib.html|head -n42|tail -n25 , eh? |
| 20:37.39 | Lopeppeppy | Any hints for WoW voice crashing my game, other than to disable it and junk my sound card? (updated drivers already) |
| 20:37.58 | Kaydeethree | is the wow bug buddy popping up? |
| 20:38.55 | TS|Skrom | did they activate it on more servers today? I seem to be hearing alot about it (voice chat) |
| 20:39.09 | Kaydeethree | ya, they rolling-restarted all of the realms to activate it |
| 20:39.09 | Lopeppeppy | No, the little popup was blank, which peeves me royally. Nothing to track back. |
| 20:39.15 | bleeter | TS|Skrom: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2040599499&postId=19996284190&sid=1#0 |
| 20:39.46 | cog|work | here's the jack-o-lanterns: http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/jack-o-lanterns/jack-o-lanterns.html |
| 20:39.58 | TS|Skrom | cool |
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| 20:40.12 | TS|Skrom | That's all the info I needed to scrap my idea of playing CoH tonight ^^ |
| 20:40.21 | TS|Skrom | Thank you blizzard, you just stole money from NCSoft |
| 20:41.05 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: possible fix for creative sound stuttering http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2035714647&sid=1&pageNo=52#1023 |
| 20:41.05 | Kaydeethree | cog|work, lmao |
| 20:41.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, I got an error message that time at least... *sigh* This is not a good thing at all. |
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| 20:42.52 | Kaydeethree | wow they let that thread break the 1k post barrier. wonder where the softlock is? |
| 20:43.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaydeethree, if it locks, it'll spawn hundreds of new threads. |
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| 20:43.53 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: I thought the first barrier was around 500? |
| 20:44.06 | Kaydeethree | the regular barrier is 500 iirc |
| 20:44.32 | t00sas | anyone tryed to export character armory from the game? |
| 20:44.38 | t00sas | using addons |
| 20:45.17 | foxlit | t00sas: what you're saying doesn't quite make sense. |
| 20:46.28 | bleeter | I believe t00sas may be having difficulties with the english language, 'coz they're from .lt ;) further, I suspect what t00sas is after is something like the rpgo-outfitters stuff, exporting the armor that a character is wearing |
| 20:46.31 | t00sas | i just want to export my char armory and host it. |
| 20:46.38 | t00sas | :} |
| 20:46.49 | buu | bleeter: That implies someobody read a 1000 post thread on the forums.. |
| 20:46.58 | t00sas | bleeter you are almost right ;] |
| 20:47.19 | buu | t00sas: What's wrong with blizzard's? |
| 20:47.38 | bleeter | t00sas: http://www.wowroster.net/ ? |
| 20:48.32 | t00sas | the problem is that i exported CharacterProfiler.lua file with addon and i have no idea what to do with it now, because i can open it only with notepad and there is a code which i dont understand, like programming language :\ |
| 20:48.54 | buu | Fascinating. |
| 20:49.50 | bleeter | t00sas: you'd need to import it into a website that can read it, eg, wowroster http://www.wowroster.net/ProjectsPro/project/project_id=4.html |
| 20:51.11 | bleeter | buu: one of the things that is 'wrong' with blizzard's is it doesn't show craftables, only skill level ;) |
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| 21:13.10 | foxlit | Can I use the target attribute to specify a hostile target by name, or do I need a macro? |
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| 21:14.20 | Kaydeethree | I thought only units in your party/raid could be specified by name |
| 21:16.22 | Thunder_Child | you can /target <name> for unique mob names if thats what you mean |
| 21:16.43 | Kaydeethree | ya, but not /cast [target=____] |
| 21:18.01 | foxlit | SecureActionButton attributes is what I'm interested in, rather than macros :) |
| 21:18.13 | cog|work | nope |
| 21:18.15 | Iriel | Kaydeethree: is that for all units or just the -pet suffix? I dont recall |
| 21:19.53 | foxlit | In the end, it comes down to using macrotet |
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| 21:28.22 | Tem | okay, something is very, very wrong |
| 21:28.28 | Tem | I just 2v1ed a hunter and druid |
| 21:28.37 | Tem | I thought they were really bad for what looked like good gear |
| 21:28.45 | Tem | so I looked em up on armory |
| 21:28.59 | Tem | the two of them make up the number 3 2v2 on my server |
| 21:29.09 | Tem | so I figure it's a fluke |
| 21:29.16 | Tem | but then they come back |
| 21:29.20 | Tem | and I do it again |
| 21:29.46 | cladhaire | lol |
| 21:29.57 | Iriel | An off day? Recently purchased on eBay? |
| 21:29.59 | cog|work | nerf mages imo |
| 21:30.05 | Tem | the druid keps trying to heal without his instants |
| 21:30.25 | Tem | _never_ heal in front of mage with a spell he can counter unless you _want_ to not get it off |
| 21:30.39 | Thunder_Child | friend/family member trying to play on another account |
| 21:30.46 | Tem | that's gotta be it |
| 21:30.51 | Tem | the druid was flat terrible |
| 21:31.05 | Tem | (resto druids are the class I most fear in pvp_ |
| 21:31.07 | Tem | ) |
| 21:31.49 | Xinhuan | tem: maybe the druid isn't the owner ;p |
| 21:31.53 | Xinhuan | of the account |
| 21:32.00 | Tem | right, |
| 21:32.06 | Tem | I was just agreeing with that possibility |
| 21:32.18 | Xinhuan | "a friend logged me on" |
| 21:32.22 | Xinhuan | is the favourite excuse |
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| 21:49.58 | Shirik | I'm back! |
| 21:50.00 | Shirik | For about 2 minutes |
| 21:50.04 | Shirik | you all missed me? :D |
| 21:50.40 | Cide | the silence is the answer |
| 21:50.45 | Shirik | =( |
| 21:52.44 | art3mis | and penn says rosa parks wasnt allowed on the bus because of a Law by Jim Rosen segregating blacks from whites, handi caps arent allowed on the bus because of the laws drafted by Sir Isacc Newton. |
| 21:52.59 | art3mis | best line evah |
| 21:56.34 | sysrage | rofl wow.. this voice chat is utter crap |
| 21:56.41 | Shirik | is it? |
| 21:56.44 | Shirik | haven't been able to see it |
| 21:56.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Works fine here. |
| 21:57.12 | sysrage | sounds horrible and doesn't let you set a push-to-talk key for half the keys i'd want to use |
| 21:57.26 | sysrage | better than nothing i guess. but i'll still be using vent |
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| 21:57.45 | Valaron|Work | I will probably still not use it most of the time. |
| 21:57.48 | bleeter | so.. given that voice is apparently on a seperate network, is there a method available to seperate the game latency stat from the voice latency stat? |
| 21:59.30 | lolinternet | Cidan |
| 21:59.31 | lolinternet | about that girl |
| 21:59.32 | lolinternet | YHBT |
| 21:59.40 | lolinternet | and you totally fell for it, too |
| 21:59.52 | Valaron|Work | yhbt? |
| 21:59.58 | lolinternet | ~yhbt |
| 21:59.59 | purl | hmm... yhbt is You Have Been Trolled |
| 22:00.17 | lolinternet | ~yhl |
| 22:00.26 | lolinternet | purl, yhl is you have lost |
| 22:00.27 | purl | okay, lolinternet |
| 22:00.30 | lolinternet | ~hand |
| 22:00.31 | purl | ACTION talk to the hand, lolinternet! |
| 22:00.38 | lolinternet | *sigh* |
| 22:00.46 | lolinternet | that should be have a nice day |
| 22:00.47 | lolinternet | meh |
| 22:00.59 | lolinternet | also |
| 22:01.00 | lolinternet | GOD DAMN IT |
| 22:01.03 | lolinternet | THIS GIMP WARRIOR |
| 22:01.06 | lolinternet | just got gorehowl |
| 22:01.10 | lolinternet | he still wears GREENS |
| 22:01.11 | bleeter | lol YHBT is the international code for the main airport near me |
| 22:01.12 | lolinternet | fucking HATE |
| 22:01.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, internet. |
| 22:01.36 | lolinternet | yes |
| 22:01.37 | lolinternet | indeed |
| 22:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, that was just too perfect for me *not* to take, haha |
| 22:02.56 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, you are right of course |
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| 22:05.04 | Raverix | Hello |
| 22:05.12 | Raverix | Anyone here know how to do string comparison? |
| 22:05.21 | Raverix | I'm trying to write a very simple add-on, but am having difficulty with it. when testing if(strsub(arg1,-6,-2) == "parry") always returns false, even though DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(strsub(arg1,-6,-2)); displays "parry" |
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| 22:07.39 | foxlit | In lua, strings are always equal to themselves. |
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| 22:08.09 | Raverix | Ok, so how would I go about doing this? |
| 22:08.10 | foxlit | So something else is going wrong |
| 22:08.28 | Raverix | May I paste my code here? 6 lines total. |
| 22:08.38 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net |
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| 22:19.57 | Guillotine | screw time warner cable >:( |
| 22:20.15 | foxlit | Raverix: check that you aren't accidentially getting spaces at the start/end of the string |
| 22:20.55 | foxlit | (you could check that strlen(...your string here...) is what you're expecting it to be |
| 22:22.53 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, still? |
| 22:23.20 | Guillotine | TC: yes. we just went to the office they told us to and they say "sorry, we can't exchange the modem here. you have to have a technician come over and replace it" |
| 22:23.29 | Guillotine | this will be our fifth technician for replacing a goddam modem |
| 22:33.24 | Kaydeethree | Guillotine, wtf? I thought comcast techs were incompetent, but 5 different techs? |
| 22:33.35 | Guillotine | alright, heres what happend |
| 22:33.39 | Polarina | foxlit: There is a faster way to get the length of the string rather than strlen(). |
| 22:33.53 | Guillotine | tech #1: increase rate. does nothing (we told them we needed a new modem but they insisted this would work) |
| 22:33.58 | foxlit | #str |
| 22:34.06 | Polarina | foxlit: :) |
| 22:34.07 | foxlit | But meh, it isn't important |
| 22:34.08 | Guillotine | tech #2: says everything is ok and leaves before we can tell them its not |
| 22:34.14 | foxlit | You could also call sub on string rather than strsub |
| 22:34.15 | Guillotine | tech #3: never shows up |
| 22:34.28 | Guillotine | tech #4: shows up, says he forgot modem and will be back in 40-45 mins, then never returns |
| 22:34.47 | Thunder_Child | Kaydeethree, comcast subcontracts tech visits to locals |
| 22:35.16 | Polarina | Guillotine: Get a broadband connection. :) |
| 22:35.37 | Guillotine | cable is expensive enough :( |
| 22:37.32 | Thunder_Child | for $10/month i could go from 6mb/s to 10mb/s |
| 22:37.43 | Thunder_Child | more* |
| 22:37.56 | Kaydeethree | I've got more bandwidth than I know what to do with |
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| 22:44.35 | cog|work | umm... |
| 22:45.30 | cog|work | why is the c2d E6600 $33 /more/ than the c2d E6750? The latter has a faster bus and higher clock speed... everything else is basically identical... |
| 22:46.49 | Thunder_Child | because they havent bothered to change the e6600 price |
| 22:47.13 | cog|work | my guess is too popular... |
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| 23:24.41 | Intangir | hey |
| 23:24.47 | Intangir | anyone checking out the voice chat? |
| 23:24.56 | cog|work | wtb |
| 23:25.04 | cog|work | need to ditch the |work though :P |
| 23:26.27 | dreamss | i like the pipe |
| 23:26.45 | sag_ich_nicht | night guys. |
| 23:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 23:26.47 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work |
| 23:26.51 | sag_ich_nicht | remove the whitespace! |
| 23:26.56 | sag_ich_nicht | you know you want to! |
| 23:26.59 | cog|work | ? |
| 23:26.59 | dreamss | sup/cya sag |
| 23:27.06 | cog|work | what whitespace? |
| 23:27.13 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: in front of itemlinks |
| 23:27.17 | dreamss | the voice chat breaks/is kinda low |
| 23:27.23 | sag_ich_nicht | blizzard default UI annoyance :D |
| 23:27.23 | dreamss | crappy |
| 23:27.25 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 23:27.26 | sag_ich_nicht | night :D |
| 23:27.42 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: i have no idea what whitspace you're referring to (and didn't when I referred you to strtrim) |
| 23:27.44 | cog|work | :P |
| 23:27.51 | cog|work | but gtg |
| 23:27.52 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: when you make an itemlink |
| 23:27.53 | sag_ich_nicht | in chat |
| 23:27.55 | sag_ich_nicht | with shift + click |
| 23:28.01 | sag_ich_nicht | it puts a whitespace in front of the itemlink |
| 23:28.03 | sag_ich_nicht | which is ANNOYING |
| 23:28.08 | sag_ich_nicht | thus the need to remove it |
| 23:28.09 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 23:28.10 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
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| 23:29.35 | dreamss | http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/maschietruid.jpg |
| 23:30.45 | Cidan | Does anyone know the event's for voice chat? |
| 23:37.44 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: I know. Very annoying. I have no idea why Blizzard even added it there. |
| 23:38.52 | Buuyo | heh |
| 23:39.02 | Buuyo | that comic strip was good =p |
| 23:40.11 | Kaydeethree | Cidan, I see VOICE_START, _STOP and _LEFT_SESSION in VoiceChat.lua, there's probably more to be had elsewhere |
| 23:51.17 | Cidan | kk |
| 23:51.19 | Cidan | thanks |
| 23:51.59 | Kaydeethree | the wiki does have the list, come to think of it... http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/V |
| 23:55.05 | Corrodias | it's all in your mind |
| 23:57.04 | art3mis | BOOBIES! |
| 23:57.06 | art3mis | yay |
| 23:57.08 | art3mis | \o/ |
| 23:58.31 | Corrodias | where? |
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