| 00:01.09 | furl | Someone say something |
| 00:01.12 | furl | Please. |
| 00:03.47 | Valaron|Work | Something |
| 00:04.14 | furl | Thank you |
| 00:07.00 | Kaydeethree | ok... forums auth has been down for an hour |
| 00:07.50 | Thunder_Child | anybody else here think that |
| 00:07.55 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine is amazingly awesome? |
| 00:08.13 | furl | ~seen guillotine |
| 00:08.15 | purl | guillotine <n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 4h 49m 20s ago, saying: 'I am :('. |
| 00:08.28 | Shirik|AFK | Slightly OT, but nobody's talking here anyway: |
| 00:08.39 | furl | :O |
| 00:08.40 | Thunder_Child | >.> |
| 00:08.45 | Shirik | Does anyone know how I can "handle" a program exception in C++? |
| 00:08.47 | Thunder_Child | and btw, this is NOT guillotine |
| 00:08.55 | Shirik | That is, if I cause an access violation, I can actually catch that and continue |
| 00:08.55 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: don't cause the exception? |
| 00:09.00 | Shirik | Well yeah |
| 00:09.20 | Shirik | But here's what I want to do: If my program causes a crash, it'll still crash, but I also want it to dump some debug info first |
| 00:09.32 | Shirik | Much like, if WoW terminates, they have that error handler |
| 00:09.37 | furl | Maybe make another program? |
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| 00:09.47 | Shirik | Is that how it's done? Have another process watch it? |
| 00:09.54 | furl | Off the top of my head only thing I can think of |
| 00:10.03 | Wobwork | what is it with Blogger that makes it so difficult to add comments to posts? |
| 00:10.52 | Kaydeethree | going even further off-topic, woo for the second season of shakugan no shana finally getting started airing |
| 00:11.06 | Shirik | whoo for me still not beinga ble to buy FSN 5 -_- |
| 00:11.26 | Shirik | it's sold out like everywhere |
| 00:11.35 | furl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.43 | Kaydeethree | aww |
| 00:11.46 | furl | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.00 | furl | No countering Yay? |
| 00:12.24 | Shirik | lol" |
| 00:12.25 | Shirik | "get atleast 9 rams and 3 video cards and you'll be ok." |
| 00:12.28 | Shirik | I love these forums |
| 00:13.10 | furl | Shirik: Wha? |
| 00:13.16 | furl | where'ssat off? |
| 00:13.17 | Shirik | someone was complaining that |
| 00:13.18 | Shirik | well here |
| 00:13.21 | Wobwork | oh man |
| 00:13.23 | Wobwork | 9 rams |
| 00:13.29 | Wobwork | that's at least 900g =) |
| 00:13.40 | furl | ~seen guy |
| 00:13.41 | purl | guy <n=tSWylxM8@adsl-145-115-59.asm.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 115d 17h 41m 57s ago, saying: 'exit'. |
| 00:13.43 | Shirik | "#2 During CW, when a lot of people (other races, doesnt effect my race) get on screen i lag so bad that my screen freezes and when it comes back, im dead on the floor with a -20k cpt death." |
| 00:13.46 | Shirik | That was somebody's response |
| 00:13.53 | Shirik | the 9 rams |
| 00:13.55 | Shirik | I loved that |
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| 00:29.33 | GofG | Anyone else getting a Unable To Connect error? |
| 00:29.38 | furl | Yes. |
| 00:29.49 | furl | Someone broke WoW and someone is getting fired tomorrow |
| 00:29.58 | GofG | orly? |
| 00:32.28 | GofG | Seriously though |
| 00:32.33 | GofG | Servers down? |
| 00:32.47 | Kaydeethree | I can log in to wow fine, forums are still busted |
| 00:33.15 | Cidan | We can't login here. |
| 00:33.22 | Cidan | Unable to connect. |
| 00:35.03 | furl | Broken here. |
| 00:38.09 | Kaydeethree | one good thing about the forums going down? my bathroom's now clean |
| 00:38.46 | Cidan | lol? |
| 00:38.52 | furl | Okay... |
| 00:39.05 | furl | You haven't cleaned it in months then I am assuming |
| 00:40.00 | GofG | So.... any idea when it will be back up? |
| 00:40.12 | GofG | I hate to ask because I'm sure I'm breaking some kind of "do not ask about server status" rule |
| 00:40.13 | furl | "When it is ready?" |
| 00:41.15 | furl | It's working here now |
| 00:41.40 | Kaydeethree | it's been a few weeks |
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| 00:53.21 | Wobwork | Rule 1: You do not ask about FITE SERVER |
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| 00:56.10 | furl | Rule 2: There are no rules? |
| 01:07.38 | art3mis | rule 2: dont fee them after midnight, rule 3: dont get them wet, rule 4: don't expose them to sunlight. |
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| 01:08.23 | furl | rule 5: No rape. |
| 01:08.40 | furl | Oh... hey.... KD3.... about... |
| 01:08.41 | Sixen | @KD3 |
| 01:08.42 | furl | Erm |
| 01:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | rule 34: if it exists, porn of it exists |
| 01:09.09 | furl | rule 42: It's rule 42, just obey it. |
| 01:09.09 | Kaydeethree | ? |
| 01:09.19 | Sixen | PTR Guild? =) |
| 01:09.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | rule 35: if currently, porn of something does not exist, it is the solemn duty of the discoverer to create porn of said object. |
| 01:09.37 | Kaydeethree | if the PTR hasn't gotten wiped yet, sure. it's been down all day |
| 01:10.59 | furl | I want my 2.3 already! Waaaaaaah. |
| 01:11.07 | Sixen | Has it? |
| 01:11.10 | Sixen | I was on it an hour ago |
| 01:11.46 | Sixen | Oh, odd, it's down now. |
| 01:11.53 | Kaydeethree | ya. I was either getting sent to the realm select screen or getting stuck at auth all day |
| 01:11.58 | Kaydeethree | now it's straight "d/c from server" |
| 01:12.02 | Sixen | Now it just says "Unable to connect." |
| 01:13.57 | Sixen | Forums are still down, I see. |
| 01:13.59 | furl | undead shaman. |
| 01:14.11 | Kaydeethree | 2 hours and counting now |
| 01:14.15 | Sixen | =[ |
| 01:14.16 | Kaydeethree | I'm running out of stuff to clean |
| 01:15.21 | furl | lol |
| 01:15.43 | furl | How about you clean my house? |
| 01:15.51 | Kaydeethree | hahaha, no |
| 01:15.57 | furl | ~damn |
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| 01:24.12 | Kaydeethree | UI forum regulars: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/macroguide-one.html |
| 01:24.30 | Kaydeethree | cog in particular if he's on |
| 01:24.34 | Sixen | Interesting, when was that made? |
| 01:24.45 | Kaydeethree | got posted today according to the front page |
| 01:26.03 | art3mis | boobies! |
| 01:26.08 | art3mis | \o/ |
| 01:27.33 | furl | Boobies? |
| 01:27.41 | Kaydeethree | lmao @ them talking about the 3-minute-mage macro |
| 01:27.50 | furl | Hehehehe |
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| 01:28.35 | furl | "If you pick an icon that matches another spell in your arsenal, the resulting overlap could lead to confusion. However, the macro will display its name in its icon so that you can still distinguish between your regular Pyroblast and your trinket/Arcane Power/Pyroblast macro." |
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| 02:10.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | cogwheel's got some competition! |
| 02:10.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/macroguide-one.html |
| 02:11.30 | furl | 20:24 | <Kaydeethree> UI forum regulars: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/macroguide-one.html |
| 02:11.31 | furl | 20:24 | <Kaydeethree> cog in particular if he's on |
| 02:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 02:12.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | had to restart |
| 02:12.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i lost my backlog :x |
| 02:13.09 | Thunder_Child | you know...i dont use a single macro outside of whatever a mod uses to get it's job done |
| 02:15.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i use a metric fuckton |
| 02:15.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | my hunter has one for every spell that doesn't scale with ammo |
| 02:15.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | but also uses ammo |
| 02:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have it equip the level 1 stuff then swap back for those |
| 02:15.58 | furl | I.hate.playing.hunter. |
| 02:19.15 | Thunder_Child | then dont play it |
| 02:23.15 | Kaydeethree | woo, website auth is back up |
| 02:23.24 | Sixen | =) |
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| 02:27.36 | Wobwork | Mr_Rabies: you swap ammo like that? =) |
| 02:27.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, but i haven't played my hunter in a while |
| 02:27.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and for a while my ammo swappy addon was broken |
| 02:28.03 | Wobwork | that's an interesting strategy |
| 02:28.15 | Wobwork | doesn't the ammo swapping noise get irritating? |
| 02:28.48 | Wobwork | so all your stings use level 1 ammo |
| 02:28.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | yup |
| 02:28.55 | Wobwork | and volley |
| 02:28.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and arcane shot |
| 02:29.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't sting often though |
| 02:29.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly just use viper sting |
| 02:29.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes scorpid |
| 02:29.17 | Wobwork | stings are great =\ esp viper |
| 02:29.22 | Wobwork | er scorpit |
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| 02:29.24 | Wobwork | scorpid |
| 02:29.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually it's a waste of ammo for me |
| 02:29.32 | Wobwork | should always keep scorpid up |
| 02:29.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i kill shit too fast to worry |
| 02:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 02:29.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | not ammo |
| 02:29.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | mana |
| 02:29.40 | Wobwork | for raids anyway |
| 02:29.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | well he's 60 still |
| 02:29.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and has never raided |
| 02:29.56 | Wobwork | what's your shot rotation? |
| 02:29.59 | furl | AAAAAGH HUNTER TALK |
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| 02:30.08 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:30.16 | Wobwork | I was going to suggest to furl he go have a breakdown elsewhere =P |
| 02:30.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | um well |
| 02:30.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have aimed shot |
| 02:30.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | so |
| 02:30.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | arcane shot every cooldown and just autoshot |
| 02:30.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | does the trick |
| 02:30.46 | Wobwork | not even multi? |
| 02:30.50 | Wobwork | how boring =) |
| 02:30.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, usually yeah |
| 02:30.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | oftentimes i don't even bother arcane shotting |
| 02:31.14 | Wobwork | bah |
| 02:31.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a macro that pet attacks, casts hunter's mark, and autoshots |
| 02:31.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 02:31.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and /targetenemy |
| 02:31.31 | Wobwork | you've turned one of the possibly most technical classes into an autoshotbot =P |
| 02:31.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can just slap it and let it roll on its own more or less |
| 02:31.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really, they're perhaps the easiest class i've played |
| 02:32.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | next is warlock |
| 02:32.03 | art3mis | i've coined a new word |
| 02:32.06 | art3mis | e-plied |
| 02:32.07 | Wobwork | They can be so much more though |
| 02:32.16 | art3mis | its for when you reply on a forum or email ;P |
| 02:32.17 | Wobwork | yes, they can be the easiest |
| 02:32.25 | Wobwork | but that's only if you don't give a shit =P |
| 02:32.35 | Wobwork | autoshot + afk |
| 02:32.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's when i'm grinding |
| 02:33.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | otherwise i can keep up on the damage meters in instances fine without aimed shot |
| 02:33.06 | Wobwork | that's the best time to practice |
| 02:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and don't have steadyshot |
| 02:33.20 | Wobwork | "How many mobs can I successfully take on at once?" |
| 02:33.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i know |
| 02:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i killed 62 elites at 60 easily on my hunter |
| 02:33.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a kiting god |
| 02:33.43 | Wobwork | CC one, kite another, pet tank a third, kill them all |
| 02:33.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | without using my pet, and beast spec |
| 02:34.02 | Wobwork | I'm so glad they changed traps in 2.0 |
| 02:34.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can pull so much stuff off on my hunter |
| 02:34.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they're really easy to play and master |
| 02:34.21 | Wobwork | made us viable CC for once |
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| 02:34.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | compared to my drood at least |
| 02:34.37 | Wobwork | in fact possibly one of the best CC in the game |
| 02:34.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem is most hunters are morons |
| 02:34.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | so they make an easy job look tough |
| 02:34.55 | Wobwork | since we're only limited to the completely non-ccable mobs |
| 02:35.08 | Wobwork | s/to/by/ |
| 02:35.35 | Wobwork | I need to get my hunter's agi up |
| 02:35.41 | Wobwork | I so want to respec surv |
| 02:35.48 | Wobwork | (despite how much fun BM is) |
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| 02:35.54 | a-stray-cat | why survival? |
| 02:36.19 | Wobwork | trapalicious, mana regenerating, armour reducting, critmachine =) |
| 02:36.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | my hunter's still in pre agi formula change gear |
| 02:36.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 02:36.54 | Wobwork | I should just buy agi gems |
| 02:36.58 | Wobwork | and resocket all my gear =P |
| 02:37.06 | a-stray-cat | agi gems are better than AP gems for all specs, i think |
| 02:37.13 | Wobwork | aye |
| 02:37.24 | Wobwork | cause they give +crit along with the AP |
| 02:37.29 | Wobwork | (and dodge) |
| 02:37.33 | a-stray-cat | feh, dodge. |
| 02:37.42 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 02:37.54 | Wobwork | Although I've dodged any number of hateful strikes |
| 02:38.01 | Wobwork | (knocks on wood) |
| 02:38.27 | a-stray-cat | usually its bad if you're close enough to get hit by hateful strike ;p |
| 02:38.35 | Wobwork | hehe =) |
| 02:38.40 | art3mis | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 02:38.43 | Wobwork | it gives you more chance to FD =) |
| 02:38.47 | art3mis | ~poke wobwork |
| 02:38.48 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind wobwork, pokes wobwork repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 02:38.56 | art3mis | hilarious! |
| 02:39.04 | Wobwork | wotwot? |
| 02:39.14 | a-stray-cat | fd earlier imo ;p |
| 02:39.34 | Wobwork | if you FD at the door, you can save yourself the repair costs =P |
| 02:39.48 | Wobwork | (For Gruul at least) |
| 02:39.49 | a-stray-cat | oh i just stay at the door the entire time ;P |
| 02:40.00 | a-stray-cat | stand on the rock near it |
| 02:40.17 | Wobwork | I'm actually loving gruul on my rogue |
| 02:40.21 | Wobwork | CloS ftw |
| 02:40.25 | a-stray-cat | fd when the MT dies, then fd again when everyone else is dead ;/ |
| 02:40.33 | Wobwork | I've never taken any shatter damage =) |
| 02:40.34 | art3mis | beta 2 for VS 2008 is out btw |
| 02:40.34 | a-stray-cat | what's CloS do in gruul? |
| 02:40.39 | a-stray-cat | thats hax |
| 02:40.41 | Wobwork | It removes the slowing debuff |
| 02:40.53 | Wobwork | so I have time to move to an unoccupied spot |
| 02:41.04 | Wobwork | Same with Shade |
| 02:41.11 | a-stray-cat | i have just enough time to see if i can kill my nearest healer |
| 02:41.26 | Wobwork | "Oh look a tree! I'll hide behind it!" |
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| 02:41.34 | a-stray-cat | i haven't done any pve for a long time ;o |
| 02:41.39 | Wobwork | "You should have used Barkskin!" |
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| 02:42.30 | a-stray-cat | once a warrior got slammed to right on top of me, and we ran the same way :/ |
| 02:42.35 | art3mis | http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-exploits/52200-hellfire-ramps-last-boss-exploit.html |
| 02:42.40 | a-stray-cat | and we killed each other, goodbye #1 and #2 dps lawl |
| 02:43.40 | a-stray-cat | this was before our warlocks and rogues had any decent gear, so i could actually get top dps every now and then :P |
| 02:44.09 | Thunder_Child | http://www.designboom.com/weblog/read.php?CATEGORY_PK=&TOPIC_PK=1747 |
| 02:44.21 | Thunder_Child | something to do with the AOL disks |
| 02:44.28 | a-stray-cat | that can't be comfortable ;o |
| 02:44.29 | Thunder_Child | ~win wowi |
| 02:44.30 | purl | Congratulations, wowi! You have won the US presidency! |
| 02:44.35 | Thunder_Child | oh..random |
| 02:44.37 | Thunder_Child | bag |
| 02:44.40 | Thunder_Child | bah* |
| 02:47.51 | Thunder_Child | ~AI |
| 02:47.52 | purl | hmm... ai is a myth, the best they have so far is actual stupidity, or me APT!, or american idol |
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| 02:56.18 | furl | Forgot to come back |
| 02:56.22 | furl | >.> |
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| 03:39.51 | Kaydeethree | hm, tigerclaw all-but-confirmed 2.2.3 going live tomorrow |
| 03:44.10 | furl | sweet |
| 03:44.22 | Cidan | It seems it was indeed sweet. |
| 03:44.29 | Cidan | Perhaps too sweet for furl to handle. |
| 03:47.53 | KarlKFI | Did they change the amount of mana/hp you get when rezzed? |
| 03:59.55 | KarlKFI | oh man, the vashj fight is retarded |
| 04:00.19 | KarlKFI | wipe if any 1 person messes up |
| 04:08.12 | Esamynn | Kaydeethree: KT? |
| 04:08.35 | Kaydeethree | Kel'Thuzad. 'course, my memories of the KT fight are rather vague, only fought him a few times |
| 04:08.38 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 04:08.41 | Esamynn | never got to him :( |
| 04:09.03 | Esamynn | never got to 4-H either, but I have some idea how the fight went |
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| 04:17.43 | KarlKFI | 4-H isn't nearly as bad |
| 04:18.09 | Kaydeethree | if you don't move, you die. people dying on 4H (at least back at 60) is a bad thing |
| 04:18.28 | KarlKFI | right but it's not gg if you loose 1 dps |
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| 04:28.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | all you folks who ahve way too much time on your hands and are a bank of useless knowledge like myself, hit up #trivia :o |
| 04:28.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not me advertising for a channel, i'm just bored out of my mind |
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| 04:42.52 | Cairenn | Seerah_: the ping because I locked the thread? |
| 04:43.03 | Seerah_ | hmm? |
| 04:43.15 | Cairenn | just wondered why you pinged me in ace |
| 04:43.43 | Seerah_ | ohhh, just saw. no, we were just screwing around with purl :) |
| 04:43.55 | Cairenn | hokay |
| 04:43.56 | Seerah_ | and sorry :) |
| 04:44.01 | Cairenn | not upset with you |
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| 04:58.34 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
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| 05:04.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 05:04.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJuaZKBABO0 |
| 05:04.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is so trippy |
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| 05:17.53 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies2, thats so retarded |
| 05:18.02 | Wobin | ... |
| 05:18.16 | Wobin | bizarre |
| 05:18.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | how's it retarded, it's bizarre, but not retarded O |
| 05:18.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 05:18.52 | Wobin | What on earth is the camel doing? |
| 05:18.57 | Fisker- | i'm going to no u on this |
| 05:18.58 | Thunder_Child | whats so funny is that this woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iys86OcXPY8&mode=related&search= is watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Y4keqTV6w&mode=related&search= |
| 05:19.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | trying to sit down i think |
| 05:19.17 | Wobin | so... why not sit down? |
| 05:19.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's somewhat disturbed by the creepy laughing midget |
| 05:19.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's in a "i may need to gtfo this guy's crazy" mode |
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| 05:19.51 | Wobin | ...fester |
| 05:25.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | uncle fester |
| 05:27.56 | Thunder_Child | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215846600&postId=22151789189&sid=1#55 cant wait |
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| 05:28.36 | Thunder_Child | although in blizz speak much longer might be 1 month - 6 months |
| 05:30.37 | art3mis | i wish they'd just add uldam and make it all instance based solo content that tailors for each class so you have to know your class of die |
| 05:31.00 | Wobin | That would be interesting |
| 05:31.18 | Wobin | Have it part of a keying process for some of the raid instances =) |
| 05:31.39 | Wobin | Or for a level of heroic dungeons or soemthing |
| 05:32.05 | art3mis | oo or even better |
| 05:32.27 | art3mis | you have to solo an instance and summon a quest mob |
| 05:32.45 | art3mis | or compelte each "5man old world" instance solo once |
| 05:32.58 | Wobin | It'd be nice to be able to pug for a certain group of instances, and know that only people who can play their class can get in =) |
| 05:33.09 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:33.22 | art3mis | buit then they'd get nerfed so retards can play too ;P |
| 05:33.41 | Tem | That's how the hunter epic quest worked imo |
| 05:33.50 | Tem | you had to know your class to beat the demons |
| 05:33.54 | art3mis | yup |
| 05:34.00 | Tem | and they did a pretty descent job forcing it to be solo |
| 05:34.04 | Tem | decent* |
| 05:34.48 | Wobin | The only help I ever gave in those was making sure the area was clear |
| 05:35.47 | Tem|Sleep | same here |
| 05:36.07 | Tem|Sleep | I soloed up to the first boss in regular underbog last night :) |
| 05:36.13 | Tem|Sleep | that was fun as hell |
| 05:36.31 | Tem|Sleep | the mobs that are immune to snares were a bitch |
| 05:36.49 | Wobin | As a mage? |
| 05:37.04 | art3mis | do every instance solo(except strath and scholo), summon a mob at the "end" kill it get a piece of the puzzle(15 pieces). complete the puzzle do scholo find the book in the library, go to ubrs with others that have compelte the puzzle(max 5) activate the puzzle at 3 locations get a key.. go into uldam solo |
| 05:37.04 | Tem|Sleep | yar |
| 05:37.14 | art3mis | that would be awesome |
| 05:37.44 | Tem|Sleep | Wobin, yes, as a mage |
| 05:38.39 | art3mis | i loved 4 60 mages and 1 priest strath and scholo runs |
| 05:38.47 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:38.49 | Wobin | aoecity |
| 05:38.55 | Tem|Sleep | lol that must have been before the damage cap |
| 05:38.56 | art3mis | E Z mode ;P |
| 05:39.13 | art3mis | we did a 15 priest run of ubrs a long time ago |
| 05:39.17 | art3mis | THAT was awesome |
| 05:39.29 | art3mis | then went to AB and destroyed 4 tweams with 5flag caps |
| 05:40.05 | art3mis | you'd see the mobs boucing from priest to priest, you'd get hit once for 300 and see 5 flash heals for 800 hit you |
| 05:40.27 | art3mis | rend took less than 20 seconds |
| 05:40.32 | art3mis | the whole run was 35 mins |
| 05:40.36 | art3mis | ahhh good times |
| 05:42.32 | Wobin | hehe, you probably could have fearkited drakk's guards forever =P |
| 05:43.20 | art3mis | heh we had one holy priest kite him to rends room |
| 05:43.25 | art3mis | drakk |
| 05:44.02 | art3mis | when he ran back we sent 3 priests at him, one to bring him back to us the other to go res ;P |
| 05:44.25 | Wobin | ooc resser? |
| 05:45.16 | art3mis | nods alt-f4 log, came back in and was far enough away to res him |
| 05:45.53 | Thunder_Child | ah..cheese |
| 05:46.00 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:46.02 | Thunder_Child | way to abuse the game |
| 05:47.31 | Wobin | hax =) |
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| 07:11.38 | Nom- | WOOOT |
| 07:11.40 | Nom- | BLUEQUOTE: |
| 07:11.41 | Nom- | At present there is no 2.2.4 planned. A 2.2.4 could come into existence based on feedback from 2.2.3 players, but at present one is not planned and 2.3.0 is next up. Still not saying when. |
| 07:12.36 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 07:12.56 | Thunder_Child | Nom- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215846600&postId=22151789189&sid=1#55 |
| 07:13.09 | Thunder_Child | soon ^^ |
| 07:15.04 | Thunder_Child | heh, link goes to the correct place but this is what it looks like "http://www.worldofwarcraft.com//patchnotes" |
| 07:16.04 | Thunder_Child | and why isnt there a forum for website issues.... |
| 07:16.17 | Sixen | Bug Report |
| 07:16.22 | Sixen | Tag your thread with [WEBSITE] |
| 07:16.28 | Thunder_Child | ah, thanks |
| 07:16.31 | Sixen | =] |
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| 07:29.17 | Thunder_Child | it seems not Sixen, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/guide.html#errors |
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| 07:45.02 | Nom- | I guess we don't have much hope of the PTR coming up before tonights' maintenance :( |
| 07:47.36 | sag_ich_nicht | /console Sound_DSPBufferSize 10 |
| 07:47.38 | sag_ich_nicht | lol wut |
| 07:48.22 | Nom- | Tried it... did nothing |
| 07:48.35 | sag_ich_nicht | no not talking to you |
| 07:48.38 | Nom- | I saw the thread suggesting that too |
| 07:48.39 | Nom- | :) |
| 07:48.54 | sag_ich_nicht | just abusing IRC as clipboard |
| 07:50.32 | art3mis | sag == suhk |
| 07:50.51 | art3mis | it's like owning a retarded monkey only without the feces throwing |
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| 07:51.16 | art3mis | wow havent seen that nick in a REALLY long time |
| 07:51.32 | art3mis | i bet you're not the person that i used to know who used Drool though |
| 07:53.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 07:53.24 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842357&sid=1 |
| 07:53.25 | sag_ich_nicht | AGAIN |
| 07:54.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | mislink or what? :O |
| 07:54.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's from 5 days ago |
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| 07:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | what? |
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| 07:54.29 | sag_ich_nicht | apparently misslink by wowfix.com |
| 07:54.29 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 07:55.38 | Fisker- | 2/3 more days an i has my mount |
| 07:56.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i find it funny how winers manage to trip up bad coding errors on blizzards side all the time :X |
| 07:57.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't played since 2.2 hit |
| 07:57.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | :"X |
| 07:57.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope 2.3 hits soon |
| 07:57.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 07:57.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.2.3, but also 2.3 |
| 07:57.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't play until 2.2.3 hits :/ |
| 08:04.01 | Fisker- | whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? |
| 08:04.34 | Thunder_Child | because he hates life |
| 08:04.46 | Corrodias | can't play? why not? |
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| 08:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | sound bugs, corr |
| 08:06.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | kills my latency and is super crackly |
| 08:06.08 | Corrodias | aw |
| 08:06.15 | Corrodias | yeah, that's sucky |
| 08:06.23 | Thunder_Child | because turning off the sound is impossible? |
| 08:06.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather not play |
| 08:06.29 | Corrodias | cuz 2.2 is AWESOME SUPER FUN but only for taurens. night elves are not allowed. |
| 08:06.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | than play with -nosound |
| 08:07.06 | Thunder_Child | i always play with no sound....although i simply turn it off in options |
| 08:07.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have to have sound |
| 08:07.21 | Thunder_Child | dont have to |
| 08:07.23 | Thunder_Child | want to |
| 08:07.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i'm going to play |
| 08:07.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have to |
| 08:07.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have to play, however |
| 08:08.02 | Thunder_Child | it can be played without sound |
| 08:08.24 | Corrodias | at some level, he needs sound. whether that need is of a higher or lower priority than is the need to play the game determines whether or not he'll play without sound. |
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| 08:08.49 | Thunder_Child | i'm talking literaly |
| 08:10.45 | Punkie` | Does anyone else think wowi would be a bit better if the New & Updated part on the front page had a seperate row for New & Updated Compilations? |
| 08:11.26 | Punkie` | there seems to be a lot of compilations that I wade through to see some fun new addons nowadays :o |
| 08:12.01 | cladhaire | Punkie`: suggest it by posting as such on the website :P |
| 08:12.02 | cladhaire | but yes. |
| 08:12.58 | Corrodias | hmm, good point |
| 08:13.02 | Corrodias | compilations do not float my boat |
| 08:13.11 | Punkie` | I will make a post |
| 08:13.34 | Corrodias | poast! |
| 08:14.30 | Nom- | 2.3 > 2.2.3 |
| 08:14.43 | Nom- | 2.3 > 2.2.4 too |
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| 08:15.19 | Nom- | Every time they create a new patch between 2.2.2 and 2.3.0 they're adding an extra few days of testing to the 2.3.0 update |
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| 08:15.42 | Nom- | Somehow i think 4 weeks of bad sound performance is not going to piss as many people off as delaying essential class fixes |
| 08:16.04 | Elkano | 2.2.4? |
| 08:16.25 | Nom- | There's no 2.2.4 yet, but they might make one if people QQ too much |
| 08:17.01 | Nom- | That's effectively what Blizzard has said... i'm just hoping there's not enough QQ and 2.3.0 goes out soon |
| 08:17.16 | cryogen | seconded |
| 08:17.20 | Nom- | I'd rather have class fixes and new content than have my sound not bugger up for a few minutes twice a night |
| 08:17.39 | cryogen | who gives a flying cock about sound :) |
| 08:17.53 | Punkie` | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12814 ! |
| 08:17.53 | cryogen | i mostly play muted anyway |
| 08:18.25 | Industrial | cant play muted in pvp |
| 08:18.34 | Industrial | stealth sound! |
| 08:18.41 | cryogen | improve your eyes1 |
| 08:18.42 | Punkie` | I like wow sounds :) |
| 08:18.45 | Nom- | true dat |
| 08:18.53 | Industrial | should replace that with a horn or something |
| 08:18.54 | Industrial | :P |
| 08:19.01 | Nom- | The painful thing is... all the QQ about sound |
| 08:19.10 | Nom- | Are things i've seen since 1.7 |
| 08:19.24 | Nom- | (Which is when I started playing).... sounds not playing when there's too much happening etc etc |
| 08:19.56 | Nom- | Sorry, but I kinda expect some sounds to not play when i'm AoE tanking 20 dual wield melee mobs |
| 08:20.25 | cryogen | clearly you need a better sound system! |
| 08:20.42 | Punkie` | I think that I have got used to the weird sound issues, though it still is a bit choppy |
| 08:21.02 | Punkie` | the only thing that annoys me slightly is bosses make their URGH! sound way too often |
| 08:21.02 | Thunder_Child | nothin like having a top of the line X-FI and have POS speakers |
| 08:22.00 | buu | Punkie`: Oh god, the sound effects for solarian are ridiculous. |
| 08:23.18 | mikma | Industrial: doable |
| 08:23.55 | Punkie` | buu: yup |
| 08:24.19 | Punkie` | buu: wearing the beer goggles while killing kael makes me a sad gnome :( |
| 08:25.01 | buu | Punkie`: Gnomes make me fairly sad in general. |
| 08:25.17 | Punkie` | gnomes are the best race O.O |
| 08:27.48 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.07 | Punkie` | i've seen french school girls attack better |
| 08:29.52 | Nom- | LOL |
| 08:29.57 | Nom- | Any of you guys watch Californication ? |
| 08:30.29 | Nom- | Apparently there's a bunch of yuppees over here that hold a candlelight protest outside the TV stations here every night it airs |
| 08:31.05 | Nom- | news.com.au just published a story on it, and just about every single comment is slamming them, saying it's tame, and they should find something more contructive to do |
| 08:31.54 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 08:31.57 | art3mis | its a great show |
| 08:32.06 | Nom- | Yeah, I find it hilarious |
| 08:32.07 | art3mis | the second david douchovney show i like |
| 08:32.15 | art3mis | red shoe diaries being the other |
| 08:32.22 | art3mis | xfiles == ass |
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| 08:37.09 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6457-AlarAutomation.html <-- neat |
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| 08:41.04 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7640-PlaySound.html <-- woo hello kitty sounds! |
| 08:49.01 | art3mis | hi clad! |
| 08:49.15 | art3mis | there's a wowi updater right? |
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| 08:53.49 | Wobin | Brewfest finishes on the 18th? |
| 08:54.38 | art3mis | only 9 days?!?!! |
| 08:54.46 | art3mis | why thats umm |
| 08:54.49 | sag_ich_nicht | 17th, actually |
| 08:54.55 | sag_ich_nicht | 18th is already hallows end |
| 08:54.55 | Wobin | alas |
| 08:54.58 | art3mis | just enough to get a ram AND a pony key |
| 08:55.06 | art3mis | keg |
| 08:55.07 | Wobin | MUST GET MORE TICKETS |
| 08:55.13 | Wobin | hehe was wondering what the key was |
| 08:55.16 | art3mis | im at 300 right now |
| 08:55.24 | art3mis | figure 75 a day |
| 08:55.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i forgot to update my omnicc |
| 08:55.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i still run 1.2... latest is 2.0.5 >-< |
| 08:55.52 | art3mis | ~fail sag_itch_bitch |
| 08:55.52 | purl | sag_itch_bitch: Fail. |
| 08:55.56 | art3mis | ;) |
| 08:56.05 | Wobin | Well, 40 for the barking quest |
| 08:56.17 | Wobin | so 35 from the keg one? |
| 08:56.17 | art3mis | nods and a good 10 runs for tickets |
| 08:56.19 | art3mis | there aboots |
| 08:56.25 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:56.32 | Wobin | I have... about 220 tickets so far |
| 08:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | indeed |
| 08:56.52 | Wobin | ~380/8 |
| 08:56.53 | purl | 47.5 |
| 08:57.02 | art3mis | if you hit the apples behind the goblin tent then the two on the way and turn about 215-20yards from the end goblin you can get back to the 2 apples |
| 08:57.06 | Wobin | hm, that's entirely doable |
| 08:57.21 | Wobin | art3mis: huh? |
| 08:57.27 | art3mis | ~287/8 |
| 08:57.28 | purl | 35.875 |
| 08:57.35 | foxlit | Horde side? |
| 08:57.39 | art3mis | for the keg run |
| 08:57.41 | art3mis | yeah |
| 08:57.44 | Wobin | ah =) |
| 08:57.48 | foxlit | Ah, I've been doing the alliance one |
| 08:57.52 | Wobin | I have no idea how the hordeside is setup |
| 08:57.59 | Wobin | we have an apple barrel halfway |
| 08:58.00 | art3mis | im tempted to go see if i can do the ironforge one |
| 08:58.00 | foxlit | The apples at either end are a waste of time for us |
| 08:58.09 | Wobin | then about a few yards after the pickup |
| 08:58.21 | Wobin | I dunno, I do the end barrel |
| 08:58.29 | Wobin | allows me to gallop fullpelt all the way |
| 08:58.42 | foxlit | Yeah, but I can do virtually the same thing without that part of the trip |
| 08:58.46 | foxlit | If I don't fail at life, and server doesn't fail at syncing |
| 08:59.14 | Wobin | ah |
| 08:59.14 | art3mis | we've got from left of the road to the zepp.. at the first sign post, at the entrance to the valley to razor and then one a few yards parst the goblin down the ravine a bit |
| 08:59.14 | Wobin | well welcome to australian pingtimes =P |
| 08:59.21 | foxlit | There's some clever gallop/canter transition and jump abuse involved |
| 08:59.33 | Wobin | yeah? |
| 08:59.41 | art3mis | only time you need the one just past the goblin in the ravine is if you miss one of the oens on the way |
| 08:59.43 | Wobin | actually, if you want to abuse the system, it's ver easy |
| 08:59.58 | Wobin | all you need is a warlock with a sackful of soulshards and one other |
| 09:00.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 09:00.10 | Corrodias | my best on the horde side was 12, i believe |
| 09:00.10 | art3mis | thats the most awesome one ever |
| 09:00.41 | foxlit | Wonder if people actually tried that |
| 09:00.44 | art3mis | yup |
| 09:00.58 | art3mis | to do it efficiently you need 3 locks at each end |
| 09:01.13 | art3mis | figure 30 shards each |
| 09:01.20 | art3mis | and a 30second bonus |
| 09:01.33 | art3mis | its feasible that you would lose about 10 seconds each run |
| 09:01.50 | foxlit | That's relatively bad :/ |
| 09:01.58 | art3mis | allowing you to do it about 24 times even with retarded locks |
| 09:02.05 | foxlit | Think you can do -10s / run in ideal circumstances without locks |
| 09:02.20 | art3mis | nope |
| 09:02.30 | art3mis | horde side the best is about 12ish |
| 09:02.42 | Corrodias | can't imagine anyone exceeding 13 |
| 09:03.04 | Corrodias | without hax |
| 09:03.13 | foxlit | Throw abuse at gallop/canter transition |
| 09:03.26 | art3mis | abuse? |
| 09:03.28 | foxlit | That's relatively legal and relatively worthwhile |
| 09:03.34 | Corrodias | unless you can make it actually go -faster- than gallop, that won't help, whatever the "abuse" may be |
| 09:03.36 | Wobin | what is the hax? |
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| 09:04.04 | art3mis | you can run full gallop and not worry about it with the apple palcement |
| 09:04.14 | art3mis | i dont see how the canter gallop is considered abuse |
| 09:04.14 | foxlit | Corrodias: the idea is that it has to go less distance than full gallop would otherwise require] |
| 09:04.28 | foxlit | You can get away with never paying for gallop |
| 09:04.33 | foxlit | Which is the abuse part |
| 09:04.50 | Corrodias | oh. well, that is irrelevant on the horde side. plenty of apples for everybody. |
| 09:04.56 | art3mis | i like the horse trick for the barking |
| 09:05.27 | art3mis | trot to the first two gallop to the last two dismount rid yer horse without the ram fatigue ;P |
| 09:05.34 | art3mis | ride |
| 09:05.44 | art3mis | and finish with about 30-45seconds ;P |
| 09:05.50 | Wobin | what is the gallop/canter transition thing? |
| 09:06.05 | art3mis | the point where it swaps |
| 09:06.12 | foxlit | Got about 1:10 spare on my last bark run |
| 09:06.15 | art3mis | it makes you "jump" essentially |
| 09:06.15 | Wobin | art3mis: I finish with about 20seconds to spare anyway doing it normally |
| 09:06.37 | Wobin | So if you keep it at the transition point, you go faster? |
| 09:06.46 | art3mis | marginally yes |
| 09:06.49 | Wobin | or rather, keep switching |
| 09:07.28 | foxlit | Not the way I see it |
| 09:07.28 | foxlit | The only benefit is that you may be able to sustain gallop (or near-gallop) speed while paying for canter in fatigue |
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| 09:08.24 | art3mis | it seems like ist almsot the idea of constant jumping making it look like you're going faster l;P |
| 09:08.50 | foxlit | Adding jumps into the mix would actually improve your speed |
| 09:09.08 | foxlit | Since you keep whatever speed you had at the moment of the jump until you land |
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| 09:09.43 | foxlit | Works more or less like this: switching speeds sets the fatigue tick in 1s |
| 09:09.59 | foxlit | It does not, however, reset the speed timer |
| 09:10.44 | foxlit | So you can time the reins applications so that you get the speed benefit, jump, and drop back into canter before the fatigue counter increments |
| 09:10.52 | Wobin | >< |
| 09:11.00 | Wobin | that's a whole lot of precision =P |
| 09:11.17 | Wobin | and will it save you enough to be worthwhile? =P |
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| 09:11.35 | foxlit | Gallop costs 5 fatigue / 1s, Canter costs 1 fatigue / 1s |
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| 09:11.49 | Wobin | "THUNDER! THUNDER! THUNDER! THUNDERBREW! HO! |
| 09:11.55 | Wobin | " |
| 09:11.58 | Wobin | best line ever =P |
| 09:12.01 | art3mis | heh |
| 09:12.20 | art3mis | hey baby i hate to see you leave but i love to watch you go |
| 09:12.30 | jon_a | any lua programers on here? |
| 09:12.34 | art3mis | none |
| 09:12.45 | art3mis | lua is short for luaser |
| 09:12.52 | foxlit | Of course not. We're all into J#. |
| 09:12.56 | art3mis | haha |
| 09:13.25 | jon_a | thought u all might be into F*Minor |
| 09:13.37 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 09:13.38 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 09:13.42 | foxlit | java coding randomness: world of zuul game |
| 09:14.02 | art3mis | there is no dana there is only zuul! |
| 09:14.20 | foxlit | I'm contemplating adding a hidden "drunk" stat that'd affect what you see |
| 09:14.24 | foxlit | However, I'm also lazy |
| 09:14.28 | art3mis | heh i used to say that at work all the time.. i worked upstairs so they'd yell for me and i'd respond with that line |
| 09:14.42 | art3mis | after about 3 weeks they just started asking for zuul |
| 09:15.51 | clad|brb | art3mis: hrm? |
| 09:17.04 | Wobin | 1 minute to spare |
| 09:17.09 | Wobin | easy enough |
| 09:17.23 | art3mis | is wuu the wowi updater? |
| 09:17.29 | foxlit | jon_a: but you could try asking an actual question |
| 09:17.36 | foxlit | wuu is an unaffilated updater |
| 09:17.39 | art3mis | or is there a wowi updater |
| 09:17.40 | foxlit | I do believe it does wowi |
| 09:17.50 | foxlit | as well as curse, ace, and other sites |
| 09:17.59 | art3mis | i know, i was just phrasing it that way on purpose |
| 09:18.46 | art3mis | wowi official updater vs wuu |
| 09:19.14 | foxlit | wuu > * official updater |
| 09:19.33 | cladhaire | foxlit: ... |
| 09:19.37 | cladhaire | art3mis: there is/will be |
| 09:19.41 | art3mis | wuu eats gummy baby jesus' |
| 09:19.44 | cladhaire | I believe its being finished up at the moment |
| 09:19.50 | art3mis | too much effort to configure it ;P |
| 09:19.53 | art3mis | ahh okay |
| 09:20.32 | art3mis | i iwsh that fubar was still ace and not rock |
| 09:20.43 | cladhaire | you can get ace fubar |
| 09:20.50 | cladhaire | off wowace |
| 09:20.56 | art3mis | oo someone made that like the ace-cart too? |
| 09:20.59 | cladhaire | yep |
| 09:21.01 | foxlit | I'd much prefer a single, open-source application with a decent plug in architecture that add-on sites can subscribe to than a set of updater applications for every single website |
| 09:21.04 | art3mis | i ahvent looked in a long time |
| 09:21.19 | art3mis | foxlit: why? |
| 09:21.28 | art3mis | thers nothing on curse worth wasting BW on |
| 09:21.45 | art3mis | and wuu behaves badly with deps |
| 09:21.48 | foxlit | The world does not agree with you. |
| 09:21.56 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 09:22.09 | art3mis | name one addon of any value on curse thats NOT on wowace or wowi? |
| 09:23.03 | foxlit | "of any value" is subjective |
| 09:23.15 | art3mis | sorta |
| 09:23.18 | art3mis | but go ahead |
| 09:23.20 | art3mis | name some |
| 09:23.33 | foxlit | I publish some volume of more quirky mods exclusively to curse |
| 09:23.47 | art3mis | like? |
| 09:24.16 | art3mis | curse was alright for a while |
| 09:24.22 | art3mis | then they gayed it up with adds |
| 09:24.28 | foxlit | RSA Signatures; a trinket-management addon |
| 09:24.29 | art3mis | now it's gayed up with click throughs |
| 09:24.39 | foxlit | Rearranging battleground groups based on proximity |
| 09:24.43 | foxlit | Overall, neat ideas, small addons |
| 09:24.53 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 09:25.03 | foxlit | I can also see that for the addons that I do dual-publish, curse is a significantly more popular source |
| 09:25.12 | art3mis | the main issue that curse has is its an everything site |
| 09:25.21 | cladhaire | art3mis doesn't like curse, foxlit releases mods exclusively there. Conversation over? |
| 09:25.32 | cladhaire | there's just too much flamebait here |
| 09:25.36 | art3mis | were the only ones talking |
| 09:25.46 | foxlit | cladhaire: you've missumarized. |
| 09:25.52 | cladhaire | foxlit: An actual updater for all of the sites was tried, but certain sites didn't want to even come to the table for discussions |
| 09:25.56 | foxlit | And the curse community seems to be more vocal. |
| 09:26.03 | cladhaire | foxlit: I consider that a horrible thing as an author |
| 09:26.03 | art3mis | what other sites are there? |
| 09:26.10 | cladhaire | the user base at curse is absolutely wretched |
| 09:26.15 | cladhaire | and i have no problems saying that :P |
| 09:26.24 | foxlit | They are, nevertheless, alive. |
| 09:26.28 | cladhaire | meh |
| 09:26.29 | art3mis | foxlit: clad meant its flamebait for HIM |
| 09:26.31 | art3mis | ;) |
| 09:26.37 | cladhaire | my wowi users are alive, and provide good bug reports and intelligent comments |
| 09:26.37 | foxlit | art3mis: :) |
| 09:26.38 | cladhaire | for the most part |
| 09:27.05 | art3mis | im kind of getting sick of the whole mazzle thing on there though |
| 09:27.24 | art3mis | you can log any time of day and the last 5 forum posts will have at least 3 mazzle related things |
| 09:27.26 | cladhaire | that's an entirely different issue :P |
| 09:27.28 | foxlit | http://downloads.curse.com/details/7774/ vs http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7167-Ogri%27Lazy.html |
| 09:27.29 | Wobin | Hm that's 9 =( |
| 09:27.32 | foxlit | Although, I'm a bit biased |
| 09:27.36 | cladhaire | but i think dolby is working to solve it |
| 09:27.38 | foxlit | I block both wowi and curse ads |
| 09:27.56 | Wobin | ~306/7 |
| 09:27.57 | purl | 43.714285714286 |
| 09:28.04 | art3mis | cladhaire: he needs to make HKUI the featured helloween addon |
| 09:28.04 | foxlit | So neither of them is particularly annoying due to that |
| 09:28.09 | art3mis | ;) |
| 09:28.10 | Nom- | zomg |
| 09:28.15 | Nom- | ET: Quake Wars today??? |
| 09:28.22 | art3mis | yhahaa |
| 09:28.23 | cladhaire | foxlit: well curse is obnoxious if you don't block ads |
| 09:28.23 | Elkano | no need for me to block ads at curse ;) |
| 09:28.24 | Wobin | ~7*40 |
| 09:28.24 | purl | 280 |
| 09:28.25 | cladhaire | which i don't. |
| 09:28.26 | art3mis | god im old |
| 09:28.38 | art3mis | i read ET as in the movie |
| 09:28.47 | art3mis | and thought AWESOME! |
| 09:28.51 | Wobin | ... What is ET? |
| 09:28.57 | Wobin | (other than the movie) |
| 09:28.59 | art3mis | little big headed aliens as a quake mod patch ;P |
| 09:29.05 | art3mis | the extraterrestrial |
| 09:29.08 | Elkano | the ET game was fun back in my Atari days... |
| 09:29.14 | Wobin | Oh that game sucked |
| 09:29.19 | art3mis | no way |
| 09:29.35 | art3mis | slamming the buttons to extend yer head ruled! |
| 09:29.36 | Wobin | That was more "How To Fall In A Hole And Not Get Out No Matter How Hard You Extend Your Neck" game |
| 09:29.55 | foxlit | cladhaire: foxlit: An actual updater for all of the sites was tried, but certain sites didn't want to even come to the table for discussions |
| 09:30.06 | foxlit | That's an actually interesting issue |
| 09:30.22 | foxlit | Does anyone really has to ask them? |
| 09:30.27 | cladhaire | ... yes? |
| 09:30.32 | cladhaire | they're all run purely through ad revenue |
| 09:30.36 | foxlit | I'd be leaning towards ... no. |
| 09:30.37 | cladhaire | anything else would be complete asshole. |
| 09:30.44 | cladhaire | dejavu by the way. |
| 09:31.26 | art3mis | well thers really only 3 sites elft |
| 09:31.28 | art3mis | left |
| 09:31.33 | art3mis | curse wowi and wowace |
| 09:31.40 | art3mis | ui died the second it was purchased |
| 09:31.44 | Elkano | well, this updater stuff is more like "who's bw do we use this time?" ;) |
| 09:32.06 | foxlit | Tbh |
| 09:32.21 | foxlit | It would be significantly cheaper for everyone to use an updater app |
| 09:32.22 | art3mis | cladhaire: any idea on an eta for that updater btw? |
| 09:32.36 | art3mis | foxlit: only in the case of curse |
| 09:32.45 | cladhaire | art3mis: "soon", i don't have much info on it.. cairenn just mentioned it was being worked on. |
| 09:32.50 | cladhaire | foxlit: No it wouldn't.. |
| 09:32.58 | cladhaire | foxlit: Which site has a bandwidth problem? |
| 09:33.01 | art3mis | im almost willing to bet that a good 60-70% of curses BW is serving all those lame graphics and stuff |
| 09:33.05 | cladhaire | or pays per bandwidth |
| 09:33.21 | cladhaire | none of them.. they have issues generating the pages and nothing else. |
| 09:33.31 | cladhaire | So you'd be lessening a load that doesn't matter, and removing ad revenue |
| 09:34.13 | art3mis | and most of us in here dont care much about the ad revenue |
| 09:34.18 | art3mis | what with ad blockers and stuff |
| 09:34.29 | art3mis | we suffer through it partially becuase we know the owners |
| 09:34.33 | cladhaire | well, the site owners do. |
| 09:34.41 | cladhaire | whats best for the users is not whats best for the sites |
| 09:34.41 | art3mis | and would prefer they not pay out of pocket too much |
| 09:34.47 | cladhaire | and the sites can disappear pretty easily :P |
| 09:34.54 | foxlit | You can reduce the computational load as well |
| 09:34.56 | bleeter | s'pose nobody knows which version of the game 7192 was? it's a zhCN build |
| 09:35.08 | cladhaire | foxlit: you're missing the point, entirely. |
| 09:35.17 | bleeter | i'm assuming a 2.1.x |
| 09:35.19 | foxlit | I don't think I am |
| 09:35.20 | art3mis | not a clue bleeter |
| 09:35.24 | foxlit | I'm not saying it'll be free |
| 09:35.33 | cladhaire | and I'm saying, flat out, its a net loss for each of the sites. |
| 09:35.36 | bleeter | np, thanks art3mis :) |
| 09:35.39 | foxlit | And I agree with that. |
| 09:35.49 | cladhaire | okay? |
| 09:36.13 | bleeter | ah, yup, 2.1.4 |
| 09:36.50 | foxlit | Point is, how expensive would it be to run a server purely dedicated to serving updates to a specific client? |
| 09:37.05 | cladhaire | I reiterate.. what's best for the users is not whats best for the sites in this case.. So it comes down to each site offering a consistent way to download addons from their site that is convenient for the user. |
| 09:37.28 | foxlit | Let's replace "the sites" with "the sites' owners" |
| 09:37.30 | cladhaire | foxlit: Well, buy a premium membership on wowi, and they'll have money to provide services such as this |
| 09:37.30 | art3mis | yeah just found it in a chinese post |
| 09:37.43 | cladhaire | if you haven't or don't plan to, then there's not much else you can say. |
| 09:37.57 | art3mis | WoW :: PN :: 2.1.4 Build 7192 zhCN |
| 09:38.13 | cladhaire | because you're just expecting someone else to spend money to provide you a service, while you continue to block ads and leech bandwidth. (I'm over generalizing here, but the point needs to be made) |
| 09:38.48 | foxlit | that won't ever work, unfortunatelly |
| 09:38.58 | art3mis | it will |
| 09:39.00 | art3mis | IF |
| 09:39.08 | art3mis | you split it amoungst sites not users |
| 09:39.19 | cladhaire | same issue |
| 09:39.21 | art3mis | a large portuion of us have hosting sites we barely use the BW of |
| 09:39.30 | art3mis | that give us 1tb a month |
| 09:39.34 | cladhaire | bandwidth isn't the problem.. cost of servers and operating costs are |
| 09:39.42 | art3mis | take 40 users... blah blah blah |
| 09:39.58 | art3mis | cladhaire: how so? |
| 09:40.06 | art3mis | my servers are 10$/mn |
| 09:40.13 | foxlit | Out of interest, does wowi/curse publish visitor stats - bandwidth/load, etc? |
| 09:40.24 | art3mis | foxlit: if you ask for it |
| 09:40.32 | art3mis | they'd prolly tell ya |
| 09:40.37 | foxlit | art3mis: I'm guessing your hosting provider would also lynch you under a sufficient load |
| 09:40.42 | cladhaire | art3mis: How much your server costs are nothing. |
| 09:40.49 | cladhaire | art3mis: err it means nothing |
| 09:40.55 | cladhaire | the point is, wowi and curse need money to keep operating |
| 09:40.59 | art3mis | cost of servers and operating costs are |
| 09:41.03 | art3mis | you said it ;P |
| 09:41.07 | cladhaire | no |
| 09:41.12 | cladhaire | how much YOUR servers costs mean nothing |
| 09:41.18 | Elkano | most of the "no limit on traffic/bw" sites cancel your account once you rely on that stuff ;) |
| 09:41.24 | cladhaire | everything that has been proposed lessens the load on their servers, and takes away their revenue. |
| 09:41.41 | art3mis | clad you're arguing a misnomer |
| 09:41.41 | cladhaire | Elkano: yep |
| 09:41.48 | foxlit | Cry me a river, then find a better business model |
| 09:41.55 | cladhaire | foxlit: . . . |
| 09:42.13 | foxlit | Yeah, I'm sorry. That's essentially what it comes down to :( |
| 09:42.19 | cladhaire | so just a big "fuck you" to people who have been providing this service since the game started. |
| 09:42.21 | cladhaire | awesome |
| 09:42.41 | cladhaire | no offense |
| 09:42.43 | cladhaire | but if you want a service |
| 09:42.47 | cladhaire | get a premium membership |
| 09:42.48 | art3mis | because you're making it out to seem a tad umm |
| 09:42.50 | cladhaire | view/click the ads |
| 09:43.00 | art3mis | i dont even know the word |
| 09:43.02 | Corrodias | foxlit: get a job |
| 09:43.22 | art3mis | the poit is that it can be done better at a lesser cost |
| 09:43.26 | cladhaire | says you |
| 09:43.27 | cladhaire | try it. |
| 09:43.39 | art3mis | but that still doesnt get rid of the fact that its there to make money |
| 09:43.44 | cladhaire | remember, I've done this before |
| 09:43.47 | cladhaire | you haven't. |
| 09:44.04 | art3mis | you've set up a beowulf cluster before? |
| 09:44.12 | cladhaire | no, an addon site |
| 09:44.21 | art3mis | same principle |
| 09:44.26 | cladhaire | actually no its not |
| 09:44.30 | cladhaire | getting the servers up and running is one thing |
| 09:44.32 | art3mis | it can be is my point |
| 09:44.35 | Corrodias | i'm not sure what beowulf is, but doesn't apache use load distribution among multiple web servers? |
| 09:44.44 | cladhaire | having the community and download base is the problem you would run into |
| 09:44.52 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2200230322&sid=1&pageNo=15 WOHO |
| 09:44.53 | Corrodias | i'm sure other servers do the same thing |
| 09:44.55 | cladhaire | art3mis: Sure, could each of the sites do something to change how they operate .. yes. |
| 09:44.55 | art3mis | Corrodias: same thing really, is distributed networking more or less |
| 09:44.57 | sag_ich_nicht | read the posting on top! |
| 09:45.00 | cladhaire | they can't just do that _today_. |
| 09:45.05 | sag_ich_nicht | (the NON-blue) |
| 09:45.06 | cladhaire | and managed servers are expensive |
| 09:45.09 | cladhaire | whether you like it or not. |
| 09:45.35 | art3mis | you dont need a full blow root access server |
| 09:45.51 | cladhaire | yes, I'm aware of this |
| 09:45.59 | cladhaire | then do it |
| 09:46.05 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire ignore them. please. i don't want another flame |
| 09:46.09 | sag_ich_nicht | *flamewar |
| 09:46.11 | art3mis | thats the single most childish thing ive ever seen you say |
| 09:46.19 | cladhaire | i've said it four times, and i mean it |
| 09:46.24 | cladhaire | if its so easy for you to do it, then do it. |
| 09:46.28 | cladhaire | host your own addon site |
| 09:46.36 | art3mis | you're arguing this as though it's anything more than idle morning chatter |
| 09:46.47 | cladhaire | no, i'm not |
| 09:46.52 | art3mis | yeah you are |
| 09:46.56 | cladhaire | I'm taking your suggestions quite literally |
| 09:47.18 | art3mis | you're getting all pissy and pulling the "well then do it" attitude of someone thats a touch to vested in a discussion |
| 09:47.34 | cladhaire | but over simplifying the problem, and over simplifying the solution doesn't exactly provide a clear picture. |
| 09:48.03 | cladhaire | I'm not arguing with you art3mis |
| 09:48.04 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: scroll up to where me and fox were talking... thats around when this last few pages started ;P |
| 09:48.05 | cladhaire | I agree things can be done better |
| 09:48.07 | cladhaire | but you assume there is money and manpower to get it to happen |
| 09:48.09 | cladhaire | That's not always the case. |
| 09:48.31 | cladhaire | I was never arguing any of that.. just simply stating that isn't not a magical switch that the sites can pull with the limited resources they already have |
| 09:48.44 | art3mis | didn say it was |
| 09:48.59 | Punkie` | p2p addon hosting! |
| 09:49.00 | Punkie` | :P |
| 09:49.05 | art3mis | punkie heh sorta ;P |
| 09:49.12 | art3mis | only not user based |
| 09:49.16 | art3mis | just server based |
| 09:49.23 | cladhaire | The only point I was trying to make.. is that people who have the gall to complain about the delivery methods of the sites that _do_ exist without supporting them (With a membership if available) or NOT blocking the ads.. are standing on shaky ground and hold little weight with me. |
| 09:49.32 | Wobin | stupid tuesdays =( |
| 09:49.39 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kaso (n=Kaso@resnet01.nat.lancs.ac.uk) |
| 09:49.41 | art3mis | ya know that torrent "website" thingy you can get to install on hosting servers so you can leech faster? |
| 09:49.44 | bleeter | Wobin: summertime ftw! :P |
| 09:49.57 | cladhaire | and I'm being serious, if you think you can set up an easy server model.. suggest it to someone maybe they haven't thought of it yet, or do it yourself. |
| 09:50.08 | cladhaire | That's not a childish answer the end the argument, because I'm not arguing with you |
| 09:50.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i(well, not me alone) run a multiserver multiple continent spanning media delivery system that has more traffic than wowi and curse combined, all sides in this dicussion are bullshit, and that's all i'm going to say on this matter. now shut up about it, ever month someone brings this shit up again and it leads to NOTHING. just STFU |
| 09:50.18 | art3mis | essentially that distro model across 15-20 spare servers == more revenue for the main site with little or no "additional costs" |
| 09:50.23 | cladhaire | There are two clear next steps to take, and doing it yourself is one of them. |
| 09:50.46 | art3mis | i never argued against sites making money |
| 09:50.52 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: no one is arguing that that model can't work. |
| 09:51.08 | Corrodias | wow, sag gets riled up quickly |
| 09:51.08 | cladhaire | i suggest you read the damn conversation and sod off |
| 09:51.09 | cladhaire | honestly |
| 09:51.20 | art3mis | clads arguing something that was mentioned off handed a while back about about there needs to be a unified updater without ads ;) |
| 09:51.42 | cladhaire | art3mis: I'm also arguing the position foxlit was taking, entirely, but that concluded. |
| 09:51.48 | art3mis | the whole "the addons are free so why do we have to pay for them theory |
| 09:52.09 | Corrodias | well, they're only free because, presumably, they're fun and free to produce |
| 09:52.14 | cladhaire | that never really came up, actually |
| 09:52.18 | art3mis | Corrodias: shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 09:52.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Corrodias: every month, someone brings up stuff about wowi, hosting, improvements, etc. each month they use a different attack vector for the same shit. it pisses me off, especially if people like cladhaire assume i can't read the conversation :P |
| 09:52.30 | cladhaire | but you're not paying for the addons, you're paying for a centralized location to download and discuss them. |
| 09:52.39 | sag_ich_nicht | (or haven't) |
| 09:52.47 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: wowi hasn't changed their attack vector for the past few patches, actually. |
| 09:52.52 | cladhaire | and the moral of the story |
| 09:52.56 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: not WoWI |
| 09:53.04 | cladhaire | okay |
| 09:53.07 | cladhaire | my _only_ point |
| 09:53.23 | cladhaire | is that people who needlessly bitch about the sites that do exist, without supporting them, shouldn't. |
| 09:53.26 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire. i'm talking about the people that bring this stuff up chaning theirs to bring up the same shit under a different cover :P |
| 09:53.36 | cladhaire | aye |
| 09:54.01 | Wobin | Sweet dreams! |
| 09:54.05 | art3mis | thanks! |
| 09:54.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rimshot |
| 09:54.07 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 09:54.08 | foxlit | cladhaire: that discourages the discussion of what you can actually do to improve. |
| 09:54.10 | art3mis | should ahve said bees nest |
| 09:54.13 | Wobin | yep |
| 09:54.14 | cladhaire | foxlit: no it doesn't |
| 09:54.19 | cladhaire | constructive discussion, by definitino is not bitching |
| 09:54.20 | art3mis | they i could have said mmmmmmmmmmm honey hole |
| 09:54.27 | foxlit | You're reading it as bitching |
| 09:54.28 | art3mis | then |
| 09:54.31 | foxlit | Don't. |
| 09:54.37 | Wobin | art3mis: You don't want to get stuck in a beehive |
| 09:54.43 | cladhaire | ... |
| 09:54.50 | art3mis | or a rabbits hole from eating to much honey |
| 09:55.00 | art3mis | i elarn my Pooh morales well! |
| 09:55.22 | cladhaire | "foxlit: Cry me a river, then find a better business model" is clearly a constructive comment |
| 09:55.23 | cladhaire | forgive me |
| 09:55.24 | Wobin | eeyore was the quintessential emo |
| 09:55.33 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially WoWI sucks, curse sucks, worldofwar sucks, wowace.com sucks. QQ, now i suggest we all go back and use cosmos :X |
| 09:55.47 | cladhaire | lol |
| 09:56.05 | Wobin | foxlit: damn you |
| 09:56.14 | Wobin | now I have that damn Justin Timberlake song in my head =( |
| 09:56.18 | cladhaire | lol |
| 09:56.23 | foxlit | hah! |
| 09:56.59 | Corrodias | SLEEP TIME! 'ni |
| 09:57.22 | Nom- | so bored |
| 09:57.29 | Nom- | dont want to play WoW |
| 09:57.34 | Nom- | TF2 taking too long to download |
| 09:57.37 | Nom- | Nothing to watch |
| 09:57.43 | Punkie` | how is wowinterface and allakhazam linked btw? |
| 09:57.46 | bleeter | Nom-: don't worry bout playing, shutdown in 3 mins ;) |
| 09:58.09 | foxlit | same owner company, iirc |
| 09:58.44 | Punkie` | the zam network or something? |
| 09:58.50 | cladhaire | aye |
| 09:59.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Punkie` hush, go away before someone brings up thottbot and goldsellers, then they'll bring up the big mudslings |
| 09:59.33 | foxlit | cladhaire: I think my point there was that you spend ages bemoaning the loss of revenue, while the solution would've been to put adds on community (which probably requires the most resources) rather than file hosting |
| 10:00.00 | foxlit | Phrasing may have been better |
| 10:00.26 | foxlit | *ads, silly typing. |
| 10:00.31 | sag_ich_nicht | -bring up +bring out |
| 10:00.34 | bleeter | bye bye 2.2.2! :D |
| 10:00.45 | cladhaire | I agree, it would be nicer if that were the case, however the communities at both sites (regardless of how large) don't generate enough to offset the cost of the file hosting in the current configurations |
| 10:00.51 | Nom- | lol bleeter |
| 10:00.54 | Nom- | See? Nothing to do! |
| 10:01.05 | bleeter | Nom-: wanna do my Uni assignments? :D |
| 10:01.09 | cladhaire | They should, but they don't :P |
| 10:01.23 | foxlit | There are a few problems with that as well |
| 10:02.00 | foxlit | But yeah, if you can't finance the entire hosting operation through community ads, you're pretty much doomed to serving ads on downloads and groaning at people who bypass them |
| 10:02.18 | foxlit | (problems being the assumption that bandwidth is virtually free and serving static content is cheap) |
| 10:02.44 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 10:03.06 | cladhaire | it's not an ideal by any means |
| 10:03.22 | Nom- | Sounds too much like hard work, bleeter ... |
| 10:03.28 | cladhaire | but thinks like a branded site updater certainly help to bridge the gap as much as possible. |
| 10:04.05 | bleeter | Nom-: should we approach accounts asking for a 24 hour refund? 3rd primetime outage in a row :/ |
| 10:04.26 | foxlit | It locks people in to a specific site, though - and unless it's a relatively open client, it requires a bit of trust on behalf of the users |
| 10:04.55 | cladhaire | yes it does |
| 10:05.01 | cladhaire | I agree with your ideals, 100% |
| 10:05.13 | Nom- | I'd play CS, except I can't stand the game |
| 10:05.14 | cladhaire | it would be nice if there was a cross company business model that supported something that was better for the user in the longrun |
| 10:06.18 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 10:06.41 | Nom- | I vote they release an oceanic version of WoW |
| 10:06.52 | Nom- | And move the downtimes to those suitable to oceanic people |
| 10:07.35 | sag_ich_nicht | solution: someone silently funds a NPO that buys all WoW addon sites and funds them. now where those funds come from... *sly look in the direction of irvine* |
| 10:07.43 | foxlit | I'd probably be lobbying for blizzard to manage addon updates, leaving interface sites to function as a community / addon discovery |
| 10:07.55 | sag_ich_nicht | BEAT YOU T IT FOXLIT |
| 10:07.55 | foxlit | damn you, sag_ich_nicht -- I've spent ages typing that! :) |
| 10:07.59 | sag_ich_nicht | *TO IT even |
| 10:08.00 | foxlit | again, ffs |
| 10:08.32 | cladhaire | I think that crosses a line Blizzard has never been comfortable with it |
| 10:08.38 | cladhaire | and trust me, I've actually pursued that previously |
| 10:08.50 | cladhaire | and hit a nice happy brick wall |
| 10:08.53 | bleeter | cmon http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt !! ... |
| 10:08.56 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: haha. i am typing over a laggy remote desktop session :X |
| 10:09.00 | foxlit | Could be, would end up looking too much like support for unofficial modifications |
| 10:09.16 | cladhaire | it would be viewed exactly as such :P |
| 10:09.19 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit that's why i said secretly funded NPO :X |
| 10:09.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | Nom-, that probably won't happen until there's sufficient demand over there |
| 10:09.30 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: secretly is the magical key :P |
| 10:09.36 | foxlit | Does that apply to both versions of the idea? |
| 10:09.44 | sag_ich_nicht | "secretly" as in open secret but hush |
| 10:10.11 | foxlit | Hm, probably. |
| 10:10.14 | bleeter | well, it'd be better than say, LoTRO's creators, or Warhammer's, creating a tool that caters for WoW users and meets and 'fixes' the issues ;) |
| 10:10.23 | foxlit | Footing someone else's bill would probably be even worse |
| 10:10.32 | bleeter | specially if it pushed ads for those other games lol |
| 10:11.27 | bleeter | imagine, steam started supprting wow addon distribution pmsl |
| 10:11.31 | foxlit | "Ok, so as we all know there was an additional click-through screen for the new TOS when we installed 2.2.2. I'm seeking blue clarification as to 3Cii, namely |
| 10:11.32 | foxlit | ii. create or use cheats, "mods", and/or hacks, or any other third-party software designed to modify the World of Warcraft experience; " |
| 10:11.45 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: The thing is, between Australia and the other countries who share it's timezones (or near to those timezones), I think there's a very significant player base |
| 10:11.53 | foxlit | EU CM: "if you know you shouldn't be using this program or 'mod' then don't do it or risk losing your account." |
| 10:11.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | significant enough to warrant the extra cost? |
| 10:12.03 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: The reason it won't happen is because it'll screw everyone who are already on US Realms up |
| 10:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | would you pay 1-2 more a month for smaller pings? |
| 10:12.26 | foxlit | Is that just Aeus being silly, or was there a shift in paradigm from "unless we explicitly ban a mod, use it as you wish" |
| 10:13.12 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: mods != addons. please look at the text of the button in the lower left of your character selection screen |
| 10:13.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure that's referring to stuff that hooks into wow memory, edits game files, etc |
| 10:13.45 | sag_ich_nicht | (in before someone corrects my sentence up there) |
| 10:14.04 | bleeter | wonder if they'll check to ensure the worldteleport command is disabled when 2.2.3 goes out... it wasn't on the PTR when it started |
| 10:14.05 | foxlit | sag_ich_nicht: there's nothing else relevant to WoW that I'd call "mods", and addons are sometimes called that by the people at large. |
| 10:14.13 | Nom- | Dude, I'd pay an extra $10 a month easy to get sub 200 pings |
| 10:14.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they wanted to disable addons they could just lock out wow checking external folders for addons |
| 10:14.25 | Kaso | it does seem bad phrasing |
| 10:14.45 | Nom- | Tanks have it the worst... there are some pulls, like Hydross that can't be done on a high ping without using an invis pot |
| 10:14.48 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: people != blizzard |
| 10:14.54 | sag_ich_nicht | lol laws |
| 10:14.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | Nom-, most people on us realms don't have sub 200 pings |
| 10:15.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say 150 is about the average for us players |
| 10:15.20 | Nom- | Only if they're on dialup |
| 10:15.25 | sag_ich_nicht | lol people with ping > 100 |
| 10:15.25 | foxlit | Meh, shouldn't really be that high |
| 10:15.26 | bleeter | and 350 is about the minimum for Oceanics |
| 10:15.30 | foxlit | You're on the same continent, dammit |
| 10:15.31 | Nom- | And if they're on dialup, then they're probably not raiding |
| 10:15.35 | Punkie` | I think on EU most people have sub 100 pings generally |
| 10:15.41 | Punkie` | unless they are UK :P |
| 10:15.42 | Nom- | And if they're not raiding, then the ping doesn't matter as much |
| 10:15.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | on dsl, Nom-, i range from 70-200 |
| 10:15.47 | cladhaire | i used to roll with 35-50ms pings in new york |
| 10:15.49 | foxlit | Punkie`: actually the same 70-200 range |
| 10:15.52 | cladhaire | now I'm 170ish |
| 10:15.54 | bleeter | you gotta be in sydney to get 300-350, iirc |
| 10:16.03 | bleeter | new zealand might do a little better |
| 10:16.03 | Nom- | I haverage from 400 to 700 |
| 10:16.10 | Nom- | *average |
| 10:16.16 | cladhaire | =/ |
| 10:16.22 | bleeter | Nom-: correct me if I'm wrong, but you're a sandgroper? |
| 10:16.22 | Nom- | And my connection is absolutely awesome |
| 10:16.45 | Punkie` | I have ~200 ping |
| 10:16.50 | Punkie` | but i am on wireless :P |
| 10:17.01 | Nom- | yes, bleeter |
| 10:17.12 | foxlit | 50ms to eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 10:17.26 | foxlit | But that's university connections, which is cheating |
| 10:17.26 | bleeter | Nom-: you'd be getting roughly the same a .sg and .my, at a guess. |
| 10:17.29 | Nom- | So if you're in Synday, add 150ms minimum to whatever you get |
| 10:17.39 | Nom- | And that's WA pings |
| 10:17.51 | Nom- | Yep |
| 10:17.55 | foxlit | Wonder if I can position a laptop based on ping times to wireless routers |
| 10:17.59 | Nom- | Our entire guild sits on about 400-600 |
| 10:20.45 | sag_ich_nicht | we call that laggy to unplayable over here Nom- :P |
| 10:21.21 | cladhaire | did slouken ever give us attributes in XML? |
| 10:22.07 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: servers seem to compensate for it, and when the whole group has that 'performance', it's not that much of an issue... in a mixed group, it can be hell ;) |
| 10:22.22 | foxlit | cladhaire: I don't think so |
| 10:22.26 | cladhaire | boo |
| 10:22.50 | Nom- | sag_ich_nicht: It's the norm for us |
| 10:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter: how the fuck could the servers compensate for it? 2.3 isn't out yet :P |
| 10:23.57 | Nom- | This is my favourite... |
| 10:24.08 | Nom- | [Somehealer] heals [You] for 7249 damage |
| 10:24.13 | foxlit | Servers trust clients to some extent |
| 10:24.16 | Nom- | [Somemob] melee [You] 200 damage |
| 10:24.19 | Nom- | [You] Die |
| 10:24.48 | foxlit | Combat is one thing where server sync kills. |
| 10:24.52 | bleeter | sag_ich_nicht: well, it's a subjective feeling, I admit, but things don't 'seem to happen' half a second before the client ... 'cept for things like what Nom- just demonstrated... they're funny, and it's why I don't PvP much, or duel |
| 10:25.12 | foxlit | You can blow cooldowns and insta-heal a dead person |
| 10:25.31 | bleeter | was talking to some other students today at uni, they said it's why they don't pvp, duel, arena much |
| 10:25.32 | foxlit | Theoretically, NS+HT should either land (saving the tank) or not land (not wasting the timer) |
| 10:25.45 | Nom- | Oh yeah.. every second time I use LoH the same thing i described above happens |
| 10:26.08 | foxlit | I've had situations where it both lands and the tank dies to no serious damage, which is what Nom- is describing :) |
| 10:26.15 | bleeter | it'd be an interesting stat for Blizz to pull, those with 'crap' pings and the amount of duelling, etc., they do compared to similar decently pinged players |
| 10:26.22 | cryogen | its very very common, actually |
| 10:26.23 | cryogen | annoyingly so |
| 10:26.37 | cryogen | you can even force it to happen, if you are used to how much latency you have |
| 10:26.39 | bleeter | goddamn it, where's the Patch! |
| 10:26.41 | foxlit | Or, occasionally, it just eats the cooldown and doesn't heal |
| 10:26.51 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.youp-pax.org/viewthread.php?tid=473&extra=page%3D1 |
| 10:26.52 | cladhaire | 11am PDT is 7:00pm here.. BOO |
| 10:26.56 | sag_ich_nicht | these crazy chinese people! |
| 10:27.03 | Nom- | yeah.. the silent heal resist is floating around still |
| 10:27.21 | cryogen | get more +hit! |
| 10:28.11 | sag_ich_nicht | god, don't remind me Nom-, it's not a server sync issue either, it's a bug, SOMEWHERE |
| 10:28.32 | Nom- | I had that happen on an LoH once |
| 10:28.35 | Nom- | that was REALLY nasty |
| 10:29.06 | sag_ich_nicht | ouch |
| 10:29.21 | foxlit | There could be a sync issue between death and heals landing |
| 10:29.35 | Nom- | nah the tank survived that |
| 10:29.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i purposfully ran into the prince cleave the other day when i was oom so i had a reason to LoH myself for ~600 man :X |
| 10:29.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl) |
| 10:29.38 | sag_ich_nicht | *mana |
| 10:29.40 | Nom- | the LoH was just silently dropped tho |
| 10:30.18 | foxlit | That's just evil |
| 10:30.21 | sag_ich_nicht | did the same thing yesterday at nightbane, then run into it again to get mana from the hots :X |
| 10:30.24 | Nom- | the tank was on some insanely low amount of health, so i dropped it and nothing happened |
| 10:30.42 | Nom- | this was on gruul at about grow 5, so it's not like our 19k hitpoint tank could possibly lose all that hitpoints again |
| 10:30.46 | foxlit | Thank god for Elune's Blessing |
| 10:30.53 | cladhaire | can paladin cast any other timed buffs on other players? |
| 10:30.56 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes i like playing mindgames with our healers) |
| 10:30.58 | cladhaire | other than blessings? |
| 10:31.01 | Nom- | health bar didn't move, but thankfully a whole heap of heals landed on him right after |
| 10:31.04 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: no |
| 10:31.07 | cladhaire | hawt |
| 10:31.10 | cladhaire | that makes this addon uber easy |
| 10:31.16 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 10:31.23 | foxlit | RD |
| 10:31.27 | sag_ich_nicht | draenei racial |
| 10:31.30 | sag_ich_nicht | that's self |
| 10:31.31 | sag_ich_nicht | not other players |
| 10:31.31 | cladhaire | ah bastages |
| 10:31.32 | foxlit | Or was that a debuff on the mob? |
| 10:31.38 | cladhaire | oh, and Divine Interventino |
| 10:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | oh right, DI, lol |
| 10:31.52 | foxlit | Suffice to say, we don't see a lot of paladins using RD |
| 10:31.55 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: set bonuses! |
| 10:32.01 | cladhaire | boo |
| 10:32.10 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait, you meant RD |
| 10:32.11 | sag_ich_nicht | not RF |
| 10:32.22 | cladhaire | i suppose i need to just use the buff textures |
| 10:32.24 | Nom- | There's a trinket which puts a shield on the person you healed |
| 10:32.27 | cladhaire | for blessings |
| 10:32.29 | Nom- | for a X of the amount healed |
| 10:32.30 | cladhaire | thats easy enough i suppose. |
| 10:32.42 | sag_ich_nicht | RF is self, RD is a debuff, not a buff, iirc. |
| 10:32.54 | sag_ich_nicht | hits the mobs targeting the target |
| 10:32.56 | Nom- | RD is a taunt debuff |
| 10:33.00 | sag_ich_nicht | (3 of them, that is) |
| 10:33.00 | Nom- | which hits up to 3 mobs |
| 10:33.01 | cladhaire | aye |
| 10:33.14 | cladhaire | now i need a name for this addon |
| 10:33.16 | sag_ich_nicht | like the T3 hot from cleanse cladhaire |
| 10:33.16 | sag_ich_nicht | that's also a buff :P |
| 10:33.18 | foxlit | An odd mechanic, but yeah |
| 10:33.26 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: are you copying pallypower? :X |
| 10:33.35 | foxlit | PallyPower is evil |
| 10:33.37 | cladhaire | no, i'm making something that's much simpler than pallypower |
| 10:33.40 | sag_ich_nicht | no it's not. |
| 10:33.47 | cladhaire | i hate PP |
| 10:33.50 | cladhaire | no offense to anyone |
| 10:33.51 | foxlit | It requires a promoted paladin |
| 10:33.51 | sag_ich_nicht | why |
| 10:33.53 | foxlit | And it looks ugly |
| 10:34.02 | foxlit | Neither of which has any excuse |
| 10:34.04 | cladhaire | but its horrid for someone who isn't a raiding paladin |
| 10:34.10 | cladhaire | a leveling paladin, its silly |
| 10:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: no it doesn't, lol |
| 10:34.26 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: why, don't you group while leveling? lamer. |
| 10:34.31 | cladhaire | yes, i do |
| 10:34.42 | sag_ich_nicht | then wtf mang! |
| 10:34.44 | cladhaire | but i dont need a ridiculous paladin communication framework to handle buffing in a 5 man group :P |
| 10:34.50 | cladhaire | i need something small, simple and sexy |
| 10:34.51 | foxlit | http://media6.curse-gaming.com/media/resized_images/750x500/14652.jpg |
| 10:34.52 | cladhaire | so i'm writing it. |
| 10:35.14 | foxlit | funny, I though they changed domains |
| 10:35.17 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't enable comm when no paladin is in the group you fool! |
| 10:35.26 | cladhaire | no, but it exists |
| 10:35.27 | cladhaire | its not pretty |
| 10:35.28 | cladhaire | etc. |
| 10:35.29 | sag_ich_nicht | (or at least, it's not supposed to) |
| 10:35.31 | foxlit | A group with 2 paladins? blasphemy! |
| 10:35.35 | cladhaire | i dont' need to give reasons ;-) |
| 10:35.36 | cladhaire | I just don't like it |
| 10:35.37 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire: so rewrite it |
| 10:35.46 | cladhaire | no, i'm writing something much simpler. |
| 10:35.53 | cladhaire | hence why i never was complaining |
| 10:35.56 | cladhaire | i never compared it to PP, you did :P |
| 10:36.01 | foxlit | me complaining! |
| 10:36.02 | Punkie` | cladhaire: /salute |
| 10:36.04 | foxlit | me me me! |
| 10:36.13 | foxlit | clad should be left alone to code :) |
| 10:36.17 | cladhaire | heh |
| 10:36.26 | cladhaire | i'm coding two addons, and writing a book at the moment |
| 10:36.28 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: so? i was 3rd in sw_stats in kara yesterday and killed everything except illhoof(no lock), and there were 2 hel paladins as well :P |
| 10:36.31 | cladhaire | and it sucks because wow is down |
| 10:36.32 | Punkie` | it's not even that good for a raiding paladin :P |
| 10:36.35 | sag_ich_nicht | *heal |
| 10:36.53 | foxlit | sag_inch_nicht: a 5-man group with 2 paladins? blasphemy! |
| 10:37.16 | foxlit | Well, I'm being a bit silly. |
| 10:37.32 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: actually, prot, holy, ret, ret, ret |
| 10:37.35 | foxlit | You could get ocassional oddness when you get both a paladin healer and a paladin tank/dps |
| 10:38.01 | foxlit | That isn't what happens most of the time, though |
| 10:38.42 | sag_ich_nicht | every second group i'm in has a paladin as healer :P |
| 10:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | stop being a healbot :P |
| 10:39.06 | foxlit | I'm not even a paladin |
| 10:39.28 | foxlit | And they should really allow them to buff two blessings / class |
| 10:39.40 | foxlit | Since that'd let us take some actual healers to Kael. |
| 10:40.01 | Punkie` | i like healing on a paladin |
| 10:40.07 | Punkie` | it's why i made one for an alt |
| 10:40.16 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you should stop and think for a moment... RET AND PROT CAN BUFF TOO OH SHI- |
| 10:40.21 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 10:40.31 | cladhaire | i should download the eu client |
| 10:40.36 | cladhaire | so i can play there when us is down |
| 10:40.46 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire o rly |
| 10:40.48 | foxlit | I am actually suggesting moving one of them to tank/dps roles |
| 10:40.53 | cladhaire | yarly |
| 10:40.56 | sag_ich_nicht | you'd need a EU account, cladhaire :P |
| 10:41.00 | cladhaire | i'd get a trial :P |
| 10:41.00 | sag_ich_nicht | *an |
| 10:41.17 | sag_ich_nicht | enjoy your limited chat functions |
| 10:41.22 | foxlit | Unfortunately, I've yet to see a paladin that can actually tank/dps to the extent of not being unwanted on Kael'thas |
| 10:41.27 | sag_ich_nicht | cladhaire what's your highest char :P |
| 10:41.37 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: your server smells |
| 10:41.41 | foxlit | Probably |
| 10:42.02 | cladhaire | I have 70 druid, 70 priest, 65 hunter, 60 rogue, 40 warlock, 35 mage |
| 10:42.09 | cladhaire | Everything else is sub 30 |
| 10:42.12 | sag_ich_nicht | oh shi- |
| 10:42.24 | foxlit | We tried having a paladin tank for a while, but that took more damage than any other tank in the raid |
| 10:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: he was anoob |
| 10:42.34 | foxlit | So it was a bit like stabbing the healers in their foot. |
| 10:42.38 | sag_ich_nicht | link me his armory |
| 10:42.46 | sag_ich_nicht | nao. |
| 10:43.13 | sag_ich_nicht | then i shall proceed to rip and tear his equip and spec appart :X |
| 10:43.34 | bleeter | goddam stupid PatchSequenceFile.txt, update so I can preload and then gtfo for the night!!! aragahragrharhgar |
| 10:43.51 | foxlit | And he ended up respeccing holy |
| 10:44.01 | foxlit | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Emerald+Dream&n=Theonus |
| 10:45.16 | sag_ich_nicht | lol holy |
| 10:45.39 | sag_ich_nicht | every once under a blue moon, i see a holy pladin that actually knows how to play |
| 10:45.58 | foxlit | blessingbots, can't leave home without them |
| 10:46.15 | sag_ich_nicht | *paladin |
| 10:46.23 | bleeter | heh, ain't seen this one before http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p290/im_araq/Funny%20Pics/11688058018366b234ecj6.jpg |
| 10:46.36 | foxlit | Well, no, all other paladin functions can be replaced by other classes |
| 10:47.44 | foxlit | Anyhow, battery will die soon, so I have to pack up. |
| 10:47.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | except being able to heal in plate and dispel upto 3 debuffs at once ;o |
| 10:48.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh other thanholy |
| 10:48.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought you meant other than blessings |
| 10:48.53 | foxlit | I did actually mean other than blessings |
| 10:49.02 | foxlit | The three debuffs at once situation is rare |
| 10:49.24 | foxlit | since they have to be of different types, and that rarely happens |
| 10:50.11 | foxlit | Healer armor doesn't really come into play unless things are going horribly wrong (though it's a nice benefit, it's not exactly required) |
| 10:50.28 | cryogen | try playing a priest and then say that |
| 10:50.32 | sag_ich_nicht | and you forgot being the most mana efficient single targe healers in the game :P |
| 10:50.41 | foxlit | cryogen: did that. |
| 10:50.53 | cryogen | it doesnt come into play ever day |
| 10:50.56 | cryogen | but when it does it matters |
| 10:51.14 | sag_ich_nicht | and yes, paladin healers can take quite a beating, but most raid leaders don't even notice when that happens(lol nightbane e.g.) |
| 10:51.25 | foxlit | lolnightbanewasagesago :) |
| 10:51.38 | cryogen | bubble is more valuable then plate anyway :p |
| 10:51.51 | foxlit | Amen. |
| 10:51.58 | foxlit | BoP, too, but that's a blessing |
| 10:52.18 | cryogen | i love groupin gin a 5 man with a paldain who knows how to use bop |
| 10:52.31 | cryogen | as opposed to the one i was in the other day where the paladin bopped himself at every opportunity |
| 10:52.32 | foxlit | sag_ich_nicht: and lose efficiency crown to druids as soon as there's more than one target to heal |
| 10:53.07 | Nom- | http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p290/im_araq/Funny%20Pics/11688058018366b234ecj6.jpg <-- True. |
| 10:53.08 | foxlit | Then again, those situations are limited. |
| 10:53.19 | foxlit | anyhow |
| 10:53.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i said single target healers. MT noes! |
| 10:54.00 | sag_ich_nicht | fox: good gear, bad spec |
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| 10:55.07 | sag_ich_nicht | imp. SoR? wtf. that's not a shockadin build, stop trying to solo with melee as holy, noobcake. pull a million mobs and kill them with downraked consecrate, your spelldmg set and your insane mana pool. |
| 10:55.31 | sag_ich_nicht | imp. dev aura? useless. |
| 10:55.55 | sag_ich_nicht | (unless you use it to get BoK, but he didn't= |
| 10:55.59 | sag_ich_nicht | *) |
| 10:57.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | gnight #wowi-lounge, i'm exhausted |
| 10:58.05 | Punkie` | nn Mr_Rabies2 ! |
| 10:59.06 | bleeter | rofl http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2288119197&sid=1 |
| 11:00.15 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 11:00.34 | bleeter | gnight Mr_Rabies2 |
| 11:00.53 | Nom- | lol |
| 11:01.01 | Nom- | someone managed to get a javascript foward into the forums ? |
| 11:01.34 | bleeter | hmmm? |
| 11:01.50 | sag_ich_nicht | night Mr_Rabies2 |
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| 11:35.30 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 11:37.13 | cladhaire | can you play on eu server with us client? |
| 11:37.25 | cladhaire | if so, someone hook me up with a realm IP ;-) |
| 11:38.37 | Kaso | just change us. to en. in your realmlist thingy |
| 11:38.40 | cryogen | eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 11:38.48 | Kaso | sorry eu ^ |
| 11:38.51 | cladhaire | no i need the ip address of a specific realm |
| 11:38.55 | cladhaire | i know the authentication part |
| 11:38.58 | Kaso | those are on wiki |
| 11:39.32 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/EU_English_Realms_Info |
| 11:39.39 | Kaso | that info what you want? |
| 11:39.57 | cladhaire | thanks |
| 11:40.35 | cladhaire | anyone wanna send me a game invite? :P |
| 11:40.38 | cladhaire | i dont see a trial link |
| 11:41.20 | Kaso | http://teaser.wow-europe.com/ ? |
| 11:41.28 | cladhaire | yeah found it |
| 11:41.34 | cladhaire | its quite extensive, lol |
| 11:43.07 | Kaso | what are you planning to do with the realm IP, i didnt know players could do anything with them |
| 11:43.18 | cladhaire | i have to tunnel to it, in order to play |
| 11:43.33 | Kaso | oh i see, complicated |
| 11:44.18 | cladhaire | lolz |
| 11:44.21 | cladhaire | no cc information required |
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| 12:01.23 | Nom- | Anyone know what codec i need to play the wow into movies outside the game ? |
| 12:03.04 | Elkano | DivX most likely |
| 12:03.04 | wereHamster | divx? |
| 12:04.04 | Nom- | Yeah, but it doesn't play with *standard* DivX codec |
| 12:04.34 | sag_ich_nicht | it does |
| 12:04.41 | sag_ich_nicht | just change the fourCC tag |
| 12:04.47 | sag_ich_nicht | to DIVX |
| 12:05.01 | sag_ich_nicht | (copy the file before you do that tho and change the copy) |
| 12:05.08 | sag_ich_nicht | (otherwise the game will go all bitchy |
| 12:05.42 | Nom- | I wish they'd be like normal game companies and use Bink & Smacker |
| 12:05.49 | sag_ich_nicht | NO |
| 12:05.53 | Nom- | So much less painful |
| 12:05.58 | sag_ich_nicht | also they did, in earlier days |
| 12:06.05 | sag_ich_nicht | bink/smacker=horrible video quality |
| 12:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | blocks everywhere D: |
| 12:06.35 | Nom- | then it was encoded with shitty bitrate |
| 12:06.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Nom-: you should complain that they changed the fourCC tag, not that they use divx :P |
| 12:06.41 | Nom- | same thing happens in DivX |
| 12:06.55 | sag_ich_nicht | except that bink/smacker use more size for the same quality as divx |
| 12:06.57 | sag_ich_nicht | oh shi- |
| 12:06.59 | sag_ich_nicht | guess what |
| 12:07.04 | sag_ich_nicht | TECHNOLOGY PROGRESSES# |
| 12:07.06 | sag_ich_nicht | -# |
| 12:08.12 | Nom- | too much effrot |
| 12:14.13 | wereHamster | what fourcc code do they use? |
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| 12:15.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't remember, lemme check |
| 12:17.13 | sag_ich_nicht | they use three: BLZ0, DXGM and DIGM |
| 12:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | BLZ0 was the original one, mhm, they must have changed it in some patch |
| 12:17.34 | wereHamster | wtf? |
| 12:17.35 | sag_ich_nicht | WC3 still uses BLZ0 |
| 12:17.49 | sag_ich_nicht | it's all divx tho |
| 12:22.10 | bleeter | woot 2.2.3.7359 |
| 12:22.55 | bleeter | heh, auth's up, realms all offline... no client patch tho |
| 12:23.11 | bleeter | http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt |
| 12:23.48 | bleeter | ah, launcher got the patch on second attempt |
| 12:28.29 | Wobin | http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=5159 |
| 12:28.35 | Wobin | that's kinda cool... |
| 12:28.55 | Wobin | have a look at the transition |
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| 13:55.36 | Nom- | are the servers back up ? |
| 14:02.51 | bleeter | nope, auth ain't letting me in |
| 14:03.15 | bleeter | well, it'll let me in so far so it can then disconnect me ;) |
| 14:03.22 | bleeter | earlier on it'd let you see the offline realms |
| 14:03.32 | Industrial | us* |
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| 14:20.06 | Kaydeethree | new live patch! current build: 7359. diff at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 14:27.41 | cladhaire | I'm getting unable to validate game version on US |
| 14:27.50 | cladhaire | ah, still on eu |
| 14:28.05 | cladhaire | duur |
| 14:28.23 | cryogen | there's a new patch in the us today? |
| 14:28.27 | cryogen | notes up anywhere? |
| 14:28.41 | bleeter | cryogen: the PTR forum has them :P |
| 14:29.05 | Cidan | there is |
| 14:29.14 | Cidan | just some small bug fixes |
| 14:29.17 | Cidan | a few sound fixes |
| 14:29.23 | Cidan | nothing too major |
| 14:29.40 | cryogen | they probably fixed the res bug :( |
| 14:30.08 | Lopeppeppy | I really, really, REALLY hope they fixed some of the sound issues. I'm gettin' tired of it. |
| 14:30.31 | cladhaire | anyone have a high level paladin (with greater blessings) want to test an addon out for me? |
| 14:30.42 | Cidan | I'd love to, but our realms are down. |
| 14:30.48 | Cidan | 'til 2 EST. |
| 14:30.49 | cladhaire | i meant eu |
| 14:30.52 | Cidan | BAH |
| 14:30.56 | cladhaire | my paladin is only level 4 :P |
| 14:31.07 | cladhaire | i dont think i can level him to 52 in the next hour. |
| 14:31.14 | cryogen | you can try |
| 14:31.19 | cladhaire | Punkie`: ping |
| 14:31.40 | cryogen | i wonder what 2.3 will reduce the 1-60 levelling time to |
| 14:32.36 | Cidan | who said it's reducing leveling time? |
| 14:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | I can test it for you, but not until tonight, and only on US. < --- at work |
| 14:32.48 | Lopeppeppy | Patch notes/General Forum sticky, Cidan. |
| 14:33.00 | Cidan | You're kidding... |
| 14:33.05 | Cidan | What the fuck? |
| 14:33.11 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Go look, Cidan. |
| 14:33.31 | Cidan | Way to make the rest of us who worked hard to level 1-60 feel jaded Blizzard. |
| 14:33.34 | Cidan | Good game. |
| 14:33.40 | cryogen | pfft |
| 14:33.46 | cryogen | QQ |
| 14:34.00 | Cidan | Die, shit like this really pisses me off. |
| 14:34.02 | zenzelezz | uhm, yeah, cause 1-60 was already so hard |
| 14:34.11 | Cidan | "OH BLIZZARD WHIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNEEEEEEEE, TOO HARD TO LEVEL" |
| 14:34.18 | cryogen | getting to level 60 isnt a fucking achievement |
| 14:34.23 | cryogen | so why deny people outlands content unnecessarily |
| 14:34.29 | Cidan | "DURR, OKAY GUYZ U CASUAL PLYERZ U, LETZ MAKE IT EASIERIRTS!" |
| 14:34.39 | Lopeppeppy | They just want to rush people through to outlands, their new baby and current focus. |
| 14:34.49 | cryogen | 60-70 makes 1-60 look a joke. |
| 14:34.55 | zenzelezz | people with that attitude suck, Cidan |
| 14:35.06 | cryogen | its only natural that they go back and tidy it up |
| 14:35.42 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: I do believe they've fixed quite a number of sound issues, maybe not all, but quite a few |
| 14:35.52 | krka | imo, it makes sense to lower the time investment for old content as they introduce new content |
| 14:35.53 | Cidan | As soon as a company starts to lower the bar over, and over, and over, and over, they lose the focus of their business. I pay 15/mo for a challenge, not for a hand-held walk through the lands of Azeroth. |
| 14:36.02 | bleeter | several race condictions were detected, as well as some dumb defaults that had got through to live |
| 14:36.13 | zenzelezz | the challenge isn't in leveling, it's in getting the good stuff |
| 14:36.30 | krka | i think they should keep the leveling from 1 - <MAX> at a constant |
| 14:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | Bleeter - the race of my character had to do with my sound issues? Or just some other stupidity with races? |
| 14:36.44 | zenzelezz | if you want hard to level, go play Anarchy Online |
| 14:37.01 | cryogen | levelling isnt supposed to be challenging |
| 14:37.14 | Kaydeethree | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_condition |
| 14:37.16 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, I don't think we want "hard to level"... we just don't want to see Blizzard watering down their content. |
| 14:37.16 | cryogen | wow's levelling is one of its major strengths |
| 14:37.24 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: do you play a shadow priest? 'coz shadow preists make more sounds, and I guess if you have fear ward that's even more sounds still.. so it could be a race thing ;) |
| 14:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | *poke bleeter* Thanks, Kaydeethree. I is feel better edu-m-cated now! |
| 14:38.49 | Cidan | Oh good, they ARE making AV harder. |
| 14:38.53 | Cidan | No more rush fest |
| 14:39.07 | Kaydeethree | tactics++ |
| 14:39.15 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, it will be very beefed on strategy for the win. |
| 14:39.32 | bleeter | for those who can't wait... http://www.bleeter.id.au/wow/Patch_2.2.3_7359.html |
| 14:40.12 | bleeter | that's the ingame patchnotes, of course always subject to change about three hours after release when Blizz have their 'omfg another cockup' moment |
| 14:40.29 | Cidan | Additionally, many outdoor elite mobs will become non-elites, making many quests which were previously too difficult or required a group much easier and offer the same rewards (in some cases better!) |
| 14:40.33 | Cidan | !! |
| 14:40.35 | nevcairiel | somehow the log doesnt look like that "sound will be all better" now |
| 14:40.44 | cladhaire | WTB Paladin on the eu realms :P |
| 14:41.52 | cryogen | Cidan: why even care? you did it, gloat over those that cant anymore |
| 14:41.54 | cryogen | that, or quit |
| 14:42.06 | Cidan | ooo, gingersnap |
| 14:42.08 | cryogen | why complain about something that benefits people that arent you and doesnt effect you in any way? |
| 14:42.12 | Cidan | That actually would make me feel better |
| 14:42.14 | bleeter | Default sound channels have been changed from 12 to 32. << better sound |
| 14:42.19 | bleeter | # |
| 14:42.23 | bleeter | # Microphone resources will no longer be claimed by World of Warcraft when Voice Chat is disabled. << better sound |
| 14:42.23 | cryogen | s/effect/affect/ |
| 14:42.28 | bleeter | # |
| 14:42.32 | bleeter | # Sounds will no longer stutter and pause if large amounts of creatures are being hit with AoE attacks from multiple sources. << better sound |
| 14:42.37 | Shirik | tsk tsk Lopeppeppy |
| 14:42.41 | Shirik | you didn't know what a race condition was? |
| 14:43.28 | Cidan | oh holy crap, fluxbox 1.0 |
| 14:43.29 | Cidan | muahahah |
| 14:43.33 | bleeter | nevcairiel: I didn't say 'all better', quite a number/a few ;) |
| 14:44.18 | nevcairiel | i know, but some blue said its supposed to be better now |
| 14:44.25 | nevcairiel | _much_ |
| 14:45.15 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik -- I'm a computer geek and a nerd, but not a programmer. I'm always lookin' to be edu-m-cated. |
| 14:45.21 | Shirik | =) |
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| 14:45.42 | Shirik | then go read a realtime systems book sometime :) So many terms you get to use just to make yourself sound smarter |
| 14:45.59 | bleeter | well, defaulting the sound channels to 2.5* more than what they went live with, I think will improve it by 'much' |
| 14:46.17 | Shirik | Most realtime discussions will also talk about synchronization, too. So you can use words like "semaphore" |
| 14:46.23 | Shirik | which isn't anything more than a number |
| 14:46.25 | nevcairiel | well, its a setting i could change |
| 14:46.27 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 14:46.28 | Shirik | but it's a really cool way to say number ^^ |
| 14:46.36 | Cidan | !! |
| 14:46.42 | bleeter | the buffer tweaking that went on, too, as well as the mic resource issue mentioned above is a plus |
| 14:46.43 | Shirik | Well that doesn't give it justice |
| 14:46.50 | Shirik | But behind the scenes it really is just a number :) |
| 14:46.51 | nevcairiel | i have a funny bug that removes all my bass output when i run wow |
| 14:46.56 | Cidan | Someone on General was bitching about Missing Diplomat quest not having an ending |
| 14:46.59 | Cidan | Blue posted: |
| 14:47.00 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.01 | Cidan | :D |
| 14:47.08 | bleeter | Cidan: oO :D |
| 14:47.14 | nevcairiel | mail to blizzard: accept creatives offer to fix fmodex |
| 14:47.24 | nevcairiel | wtb eax hardware acceleration |
| 14:47.34 | Cidan | mail to blizzard: Don't listen to people who complain about hardware accel. |
| 14:47.46 | bleeter | wtb: advanced windows OS w/o suckily re-written audio |
| 14:48.00 | Cidan | Here we go again... |
| 14:48.13 | Lopeppeppy | If Missing Diplomat continues, maybe the Essence of Eranikus will too. |
| 14:48.20 | Cidan | Perhaps |
| 14:48.25 | nevcairiel | why did i buy a sound card with good hardware sound acceleration, if i cannot use it ? <.< |
| 14:48.32 | bleeter | I always had the feeling eranikus would be emerald dream |
| 14:48.34 | Cidan | Because you're a sucker |
| 14:48.43 | Cidan | And fell for the Creative trap |
| 14:48.50 | nevcairiel | OpenAL is the winner |
| 14:48.50 | Kaydeethree | there's 60-some-odd new quests in duskwallow. you'd think they'd at least try to continue the outstanding questlines |
| 14:48.53 | cryogen | hey, lets rewrite wow's graphics engine to use software |
| 14:48.57 | cryogen | because we're all suckers |
| 14:48.59 | Cidan | God damn it |
| 14:49.30 | nevcairiel | why not add optional hardware support into fmodex |
| 14:49.33 | nevcairiel | other games did it |
| 14:49.36 | nevcairiel | without any issues |
| 14:49.46 | nevcairiel | (see bioshock) |
| 14:49.48 | cryogen | blizzard suck, period |
| 14:50.01 | Kaydeethree | are you still paying your $15/month? |
| 14:50.03 | Cidan | I really wish people would stop taking potshots at the sound system when they don't understand technical, financial and advancement issues. |
| 14:50.29 | cryogen | .. says the person bitching at improvements to the game :p |
| 14:50.38 | nevcairiel | i understand that i dont have any bass-output anymore when i have wow running, not from winamp or ingame sound |
| 14:50.40 | Cidan | Bite me, :P |
| 14:50.40 | cryogen | pot, kettle, hello? |
| 14:50.49 | nevcairiel | and that pretty much sucks balls. |
| 14:50.56 | Cidan | I suppose I'm jaded just like you are |
| 14:50.59 | Cidan | but I'll get over it |
| 14:51.01 | cryogen | :p |
| 14:51.04 | cryogen | as will we all! |
| 14:51.11 | Cidan | Then quit bitchin', :d |
| 14:51.12 | cryogen | except the creative fanbois |
| 14:51.13 | Cidan | :D |
| 14:51.24 | wereHamster | the complexity of sound doesn't incrase anymore, nowadays theres no need for hardware accelerated sound (unless you're a pro and really need it) |
| 14:51.29 | nevcairiel | meh i can live without hardware accel |
| 14:51.35 | nevcairiel | if the software accel at least works right |
| 14:51.39 | bleeter | I think the wine crew comprehensively proved what DirectSound is a POS whether it's hardware or software before 2.2.0 came out, end of story ;) |
| 14:51.46 | Cidan | There is -0- point in hardware sound for anything, ever. |
| 14:51.57 | bleeter | s/what/that/ |
| 14:52.07 | Cidan | And the very idea that you need to buy a 300 dollar sound card when you have a dual core 4Ghz CPU... |
| 14:52.12 | Cidan | is just idiotic. |
| 14:52.20 | cryogen | people buy those? |
| 14:52.23 | nevcairiel | Cidan: lemme correct it then, mail to blizzard: fix your sound system to not block my bass output |
| 14:52.37 | Cidan | So give it time as we start to move over to software sound as -everyone- will do in time. |
| 14:52.48 | Cidan | To cut out the crap middleman that is Creative == awesome. |
| 14:53.06 | wereHamster | bleeter, wine 1.0 is just around the corner ;) |
| 14:53.07 | cryogen | i wouldnt pay $300 for a vga card, let alone a sound card |
| 14:53.12 | cryogen | some people have too much money |
| 14:53.13 | Cidan | Now as I've said before, Creative needs to stop QQ'ing and make a sound system like FMOD them self. |
| 14:53.25 | Cidan | And sell it to others. |
| 14:53.27 | bleeter | Cidan: they do, with apple, it's called OpenAL ;) |
| 14:53.50 | Cidan | OpenAL hardly qualifies, it's missing a lot. |
| 14:54.10 | wereHamster | openal sucks for some aspects, namely sound capturing |
| 14:54.13 | nevcairiel | i dont care what they use, i just want working sound |
| 14:54.37 | cryogen | what is the actual issue anyway? that fmod doesnt do hardware accel? |
| 14:54.51 | nevcairiel | no, that when i start wow, all my bass output disappears :P |
| 14:54.56 | cryogen | not your issue |
| 14:54.58 | cryogen | "the" issue :p |
| 14:55.27 | bleeter | oh noes, the open source thing is missing stuff! |
| 14:55.34 | nevcairiel | so add it! |
| 14:55.35 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:55.40 | bleeter | oh, nvidia are on the openal bandwagon too |
| 14:55.47 | bleeter | didn't know that |
| 14:56.49 | Cidan | is PTR up yet? |
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| 14:57.42 | Kaydeethree | neg |
| 14:57.51 | Cidan | Hmph |
| 14:58.00 | Lopeppeppy | Harumph. |
| 14:58.08 | Kaydeethree | the copy/download page is still artificially "too busy" |
| 14:58.16 | tronned | Bah Humbug |
| 15:02.44 | Cidan | Oh fiddlesticks. |
| 15:03.10 | Lopeppeppy | Poo. |
| 15:03.32 | bleeter | bottom |
| 15:03.37 | Cidan | lolwut? |
| 15:03.55 | Lopeppeppy | We're all grumping together, it's rather fun, isn't it Eeyore? |
| 15:04.22 | tronned | oh my fur and whiskers... |
| 15:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'm late! |
| 15:04.57 | tronned | lol |
| 15:05.12 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, went all Alice in Wonderland on ya. |
| 15:05.22 | Astika | I have 2 kids, I more than understand :D |
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| 15:06.57 | Astika | question: if an AddOn sets a frame method to function() end, how can I reset it? simpleMinimap assigns .ClearAllPoints and .SetPoint to a noop function (function() end) |
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| 15:09.22 | cog|work | Astika: i think if you set it to nil, it'll pick the method up from the metatable |
| 15:09.36 | cog|work | otherwise, you'll have to save the original before smm gets to it |
| 15:09.42 | Astika | so, frame.ClearAllPoints = nil ? |
| 15:09.52 | cog|work | that's what i would try first |
| 15:10.06 | Astika | ok, as soon as the servers come up, I will try it |
| 15:10.21 | Astika | i had something else in there, but it's a pretty pathetic guess |
| 15:10.23 | foxlit | I don't think that will work |
| 15:10.30 | foxlit | ClearAllPoints is not frame specific |
| 15:10.31 | Cidan | I know that won't work |
| 15:10.36 | cog|work | :( |
| 15:10.44 | cog|work | l2metatable, slouken |
| 15:10.45 | foxlit | so if you want to prevent it from being called, make a dummy function take its place |
| 15:10.59 | cog|work | foxlit: you didn't hear the question |
| 15:11.04 | foxlit | True! |
| 15:11.05 | Astika | well, it's being prevented already |
| 15:11.09 | Cidan | no, he wants to restore it |
| 15:11.14 | cog|work | he wants to undo the application of a dummy function |
| 15:11.16 | Astika | i want to recover ClearAllPoints and SetPoints for those frames |
| 15:11.19 | Cidan | and setting it to nil won't restore it, :P |
| 15:11.24 | cog|work | and i was under the impression that frames got their methods from a metatable |
| 15:11.30 | foxlit | Steal another frame's ClearAllPoints |
| 15:11.41 | Cidan | Good idea |
| 15:11.49 | foxlit | But yeah, I'd agree with cog - it should actually be restored to metatable status |
| 15:11.56 | foxlit | But I can check |
| 15:12.07 | Astika | i was restoring it with child.SetPoint = child:SetPoint(point, relativeTo, relativePoint, xOfs, yOfs) |
| 15:12.10 | cog|work | Cidan: if it uses a metatable then setting it to nil will work |
| 15:12.24 | Astika | but it's buggy |
| 15:12.38 | Nom- | lol |
| 15:12.41 | Nom- | SL/SL needs a nerf so bad |
| 15:12.57 | foxlit | Astika: you realize that you're actually calling SetPoint in that assignment? |
| 15:13.09 | Astika | I do |
| 15:13.10 | Nom- | watching a video of a SL/SL warlock wearing level 60 gear killing guys in glad gear |
| 15:14.48 | Astika | i figured at least pulling a GetPoint, then re-assigning those values back to a SetPoint would restore the function(ality) |
| 15:15.03 | Astika | overwriting the dummy function |
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| 15:15.58 | foxlit | PlayerFrame.Hide = function(); end PlayerFrame.Hide = nil; PlayerFrame:Hide(); -- Hides the PlayerFrame |
| 15:16.27 | foxlit | so setting it to nil restores it to the metatable function |
| 15:16.33 | Cidan | er... |
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| 15:19.09 | Cidan | Oh wow |
| 15:19.14 | Cidan | Fortress Forever uses lua |
| 15:19.20 | Cidan | as a scripting language |
| 15:19.24 | Cidan | for maps, that is. |
| 15:19.35 | Cidan | So you can do almost anything in terms of gametypes, etc. |
| 15:21.08 | Astika | brb, UAV fell off the stand >< |
| 15:21.29 | Kaso | Garry's Mod's lua is better, that can define new weapons and all sorts of shit |
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| 15:24.25 | Astika | *#$#&! interns |
| 15:24.54 | Valaron|Work | Hmm |
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| 15:29.35 | bleeter | awww. someone shut down test.worldofwarcraft.com :( |
| 15:30.31 | Kaydeethree | gack... |
| 15:30.40 | Kaydeethree | 2800 songs in my playlist, it just looped back to the beginning |
| 15:32.00 | zenzelezz | I find that if I have a lot of songs in my playlist I just keep skipping past most of them |
| 15:32.30 | Kaydeethree | nah, I've been actively removing songs that annoy me |
| 15:34.29 | bleeter | I wish mpd had a 'gah I hate that song, AWAY!' command :/ |
| 15:34.48 | bleeter | actually, it might, but none of the mpc's I've got have it implemented (if it's there) |
| 15:36.50 | wereHamster | I use the sonata frontend for mpd |
| 15:38.48 | Astika | I miss Gentoo :( |
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| 15:40.16 | Kaydeethree | ~whaleparry art3mis |
| 15:40.17 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry art3mis's attacks. |
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| 15:45.27 | foxlit | HL2EP2 tomorrow :) |
| 15:45.54 | Astika | I know! Wife pre-ordered it for me. |
| 15:46.07 | Astika | Then I found out 360 cannot cross-platform with PC :( |
| 15:46.50 | foxlit | Can't care less, to be honest. |
| 15:47.01 | foxlit | Controls between PC and 360 don't really compare |
| 15:47.33 | art3mis | damn you edwardo! |
| 15:47.53 | art3mis | astika: you can game cross platform though ;P |
| 15:48.01 | art3mis | thats kind of rad |
| 15:48.16 | art3mis | the ms live thing for shadowrun is gonn be that way |
| 15:48.25 | art3mis | pc version and xbox version |
| 15:48.33 | Astika | I need a STEAM ID for TF2 matches though |
| 15:48.48 | dreamss | thing is, MS runs the live servers |
| 15:49.10 | dreamss | so its a bitch to cross plataform on non MS games |
| 15:49.10 | art3mis | dreamss: and the xbox is just a glorfied pc ;) |
| 15:49.15 | dreamss | laptop |
| 15:49.21 | dreamss | (heat issues) :P |
| 15:49.27 | art3mis | heh |
| 15:49.31 | cog|work | art3mis: i don't know if "glorified" is exactly applicable :P |
| 15:49.32 | art3mis | oh that reminds me |
| 15:49.52 | art3mis | any of you mac nerds know of any good mac look/feel usb keyboards for PC? |
| 15:49.53 | dreamss | my buddy took a pic of his 360 mobo |
| 15:49.55 | dreamss | is melted |
| 15:50.08 | Astika | i've already had the RRoD on my 360 |
| 15:50.09 | dreamss | art, arent mac keyboards usb? |
| 15:50.13 | art3mis | cog|work: not better than just glorified in the sense they tell eveyone is special |
| 15:50.24 | deltron | you can use mac keyboards i'm sure |
| 15:50.26 | art3mis | dreamss: yes, but i need an actual PC version |
| 15:50.38 | deltron | with a windows key? :P |
| 15:50.40 | art3mis | the mac one doesnt power through this kvm properly |
| 15:50.51 | art3mis | the "official mac" one rather |
| 15:51.01 | dreamss | http://www.ninjalooters.info/dreamss/360_GPU_TIM_plating2.jpg |
| 15:51.06 | dreamss | what a waste |
| 15:51.17 | dreamss | poor MS lost a cool mill on a recall |
| 15:51.33 | art3mis | so i need a pc one thats shaped "like" the slimline concave mac keyboards |
| 15:52.27 | dreamss | http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304270 |
| 15:52.31 | cncfanatics | cog|work |
| 15:52.35 | cncfanatics | u around ? |
| 15:52.38 | dreamss | aparently mac key works as windows key |
| 15:52.43 | bleeter | Java is the "most personally distressing thing since MS-DOS" |
| 15:52.44 | bleeter | lol |
| 15:52.45 | cncfanatics | I managed to reproduce yesterday's bug |
| 15:52.46 | cog|work | cncfanatics: sorta... |
| 15:52.48 | cncfanatics | in a simple file |
| 15:52.54 | cncfanatics | how do I go to report it ? |
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| 15:53.10 | cog|work | i'd put it in the 2.3 thread |
| 15:53.19 | cncfanatics | I'm not in the US |
| 15:53.28 | cog|work | oh... write up a post and i'll do it for you |
| 15:53.33 | cncfanatics | great |
| 15:53.37 | cncfanatics | lemme upload that file |
| 15:53.44 | art3mis | boobies! |
| 15:53.51 | art3mis | oh cog |
| 15:53.52 | cog|work | cncfanatics: if it's short enough you can just pastey it |
| 15:54.08 | art3mis | i finded a silly addon last night on wowi that will let me change action sounds ;P |
| 15:54.17 | cog|work | i'm sure slouken can figure out how to put it into a mod ;) |
| 15:54.20 | art3mis | gonna add that with cutsey sounds to hkui |
| 15:54.29 | cog|work | art3mis: w00t |
| 15:54.43 | cncfanatics | cog|work, its about 42 lines |
| 15:54.51 | art3mis | oh and check wowi theres an addon called casteweaponswap |
| 15:55.00 | Cairenn|afk | cncfanatics: or you can email it to me and I can forward it along |
| 15:55.08 | art3mis | appearantly it piggybacks the swap cooldown with the casting time cd |
| 15:55.15 | cog|work | cncfanatics: if it's just lua.............. or that :) |
| 15:55.24 | art3mis | and does the swaps "automagically" |
| 15:55.30 | art3mis | its kinna neat |
| 15:55.32 | cncfanatics | cog|work http://pastey.net/75085 |
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| 15:55.55 | dreamss | btw shadowrun got a tought start, the cross plataform matchmaking was awefull |
| 15:55.57 | cog|work | cncfanatics: not a bug |
| 15:56.00 | dreamss | took 10mins to get in a game |
| 15:56.00 | cncfanatics | or anyone else, mind confirming there's no obvious errors in my code ? |
| 15:56.10 | cog|work | in blizzard code anyway |
| 15:56.24 | cncfanatics | cog|work, what would be wrong with my code ? I have no clue why it doesn't work |
| 15:56.40 | cog|work | -Unshifted-none /is/ a button |
| 15:56.46 | cog|work | you can't combine it with 2 like you have there |
| 15:57.09 | cncfanatics | why not ? |
| 15:57.23 | cog|work | because it's not applicable |
| 15:57.46 | cncfanatics | well, it always worked, except now for right clicks |
| 15:57.47 | cog|work | the statebutton attribute determines what "button" the OnClick handler sees |
| 15:58.03 | cog|work | cncfanatics: yes... that's the only place you are using the 2 |
| 15:58.15 | cog|work | 2 is equivalent to -RightButton |
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| 15:58.33 | cog|work | so your unit attribute translates to: unit-RightButton-Unshifted-none |
| 15:58.45 | cog|work | but your statebutton doesn't define such a button |
| 15:59.01 | cncfanatics | I see, I'd have to define -RightButton-Unshifted-none too ? |
| 15:59.27 | cog|work | yes |
| 15:59.36 | cncfanatics | got it, thank you very much cog|work :) |
| 15:59.46 | cog|work | that's why you need a statebutton2 |
| 16:00.02 | cog|work | or |
| 16:00.10 | cog|work | have you tried simply *unit2? |
| 16:00.20 | cncfanatics | lemme try that |
| 16:01.23 | cncfanatics | *unit2 is ignored |
| 16:01.31 | cog|work | that's what i figured |
| 16:01.56 | cog|work | what are those extraneous "Unshifted-none;Unshifted-none" at the end of your statebutton? |
| 16:02.08 | cncfanatics | ment to be Unshifted-none:Unshifted-none; |
| 16:02.09 | cncfanatics | typo |
| 16:02.36 | cncfanatics | adding RightButton-Unshifted-none:RightButton-Unshifted-none; at the end of statebutton |
| 16:03.18 | cog|work | cncfanatics: you'll need to add new type & spell attributes as well |
| 16:03.27 | cog|work | unless you use *type* or *spel* |
| 16:03.28 | cncfanatics | cog|work, aww |
| 16:03.45 | cog|work | which i assume you aren't because these are being programmatically generated? |
| 16:04.10 | cryogen | muhaha |
| 16:04.16 | cryogen | all this because i want right click self cast :D |
| 16:04.35 | cog|work | in combination with all your other states, yes :P |
| 16:04.56 | cncfanatics | cog|work, everything is programaticly generated, including statedriver & statebutton, thats why its a pain :) |
| 16:05.06 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I would have had to do it eventualy anyway |
| 16:05.11 | cryogen | :) |
| 16:06.07 | cncfanatics | cryogen, rather do it early on :) |
| 16:07.31 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 16:07.37 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with my code now ? still the same |
| 16:08.02 | cncfanatics | http://pastey.net/75087 |
| 16:08.07 | art3mis | wow~ |
| 16:08.09 | art3mis | !!! |
| 16:08.14 | art3mis | that was like magic |
| 16:08.19 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:08.33 | art3mis | can you telepathically make him stop using rock too? |
| 16:08.36 | cog|work | cncfanatics: no |
| 16:08.48 | cog|work | you put the rightbutton ones in a new statebutton2 attribute |
| 16:08.54 | cncfanatics | okay |
| 16:09.01 | cog|work | and why do you have 2s in all those type, spell, unit, etc. ? |
| 16:09.43 | art3mis | cairenn: so where's my featured artist tag and super special perm link on the main page for HelloKittyWeenUI? ;) |
| 16:09.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:10.01 | Esamynn | ~lart art3mis |
| 16:10.01 | purl | gives art3mis a good seeing to |
| 16:10.02 | zenzelezz | would take more than a little licking for that I reckon |
| 16:10.03 | cncfanatics | ah yea, its RightButton there too |
| 16:10.11 | art3mis | and a spanking a spanking! |
| 16:10.21 | art3mis | ala holy grail |
| 16:10.36 | art3mis | although tht might be a bit to perilous |
| 16:10.43 | Cairenn | too* |
| 16:11.06 | art3mis | thanks corrective spell checker |
| 16:11.11 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:11.20 | art3mis | wheeeee |
| 16:11.21 | Cairenn | you're quite welcome! |
| 16:11.29 | art3mis | next week my friend from vancouver is coming to new york!! |
| 16:11.40 | art3mis | havent seen her in about 4 years |
| 16:11.47 | cncfanatics | cog|work, in statebutton2, do I do state:RightButton-map or RightButton-state:RightButton-map ? |
| 16:11.53 | art3mis | ex-pet ;) |
| 16:12.03 | cog|work | state:RightButton-map |
| 16:12.03 | cncfanatics | I guess the first ? |
| 16:12.46 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I hope I won't have to reset everyone's to implement that into FB |
| 16:12.52 | cncfanatics | think I shouldn't, hopefully :) |
| 16:13.06 | cncfanatics | works, weeee |
| 16:13.12 | cncfanatics | thank you very very much cog|work |
| 16:13.13 | art3mis | cnc you better get to module adding ;P |
| 16:13.21 | cncfanatics | art3mis, how so ? |
| 16:13.37 | art3mis | of yer only active in channel tester is gonna have to switch back to bt3 ;) |
| 16:13.39 | cncfanatics | some modules are already being coded, not by me though, I got my hands full with fb |
| 16:13.51 | cog|work | cncfanatics: np :) |
| 16:14.01 | cncfanatics | art3mis, what module u need ? stance bar ? |
| 16:14.06 | art3mis | yup |
| 16:14.17 | cryogen | i would do that |
| 16:14.22 | cryogen | but i dont know how to add new buttons to play with |
| 16:14.27 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I do :) |
| 16:14.33 | cncfanatics | finish BuffDur, then I'll tell ya xD |
| 16:14.39 | art3mis | mostly because i cant find a stupid stand alone like sealbar and aurabar |
| 16:14.40 | cryogen | whats missing now? |
| 16:14.59 | cncfanatics | cryogen, is it bugfree now ? yesterday's build ain't |
| 16:15.09 | cryogen | how so? |
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| 16:15.13 | cryogen | theres no bugs im aware of at least |
| 16:15.14 | art3mis | and me creating them custom just for me, is kind of a detractor to the whole ui compilation |
| 16:15.35 | cncfanatics | [2007/10/09 18:17:17-755-x1]: FlexBar2_BuffDur\BuffDur.lua:42: attempt to index local 'buffs' (a nil value) |
| 16:15.42 | cryogen | thats loooooooooooong fuxed |
| 16:15.44 | cryogen | fixed* |
| 16:15.47 | cncfanatics | aaah ok, I better update |
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| 16:15.53 | art3mis | hi kael! |
| 16:16.01 | art3mis | we were just talking about you |
| 16:16.03 | cryogen | btw what do i need to change in the toc to get it to show in files.wowace? |
| 16:16.20 | cncfanatics | ehm, 20200 in toc I guess |
| 16:16.50 | cncfanatics | also name the toc FlexBar2_BuffDur instead of FlexBar2_Buffdur |
| 16:16.58 | cncfanatics | the files server is probably unix and so it can't find ur toc |
| 16:17.05 | cryogen | ah |
| 16:17.44 | art3mis | well that was odd |
| 16:18.04 | art3mis | did the crack yer shoulders stretch with arms behind the back and got veritgo lightheaded |
| 16:18.09 | art3mis | neat! |
| 16:18.24 | cncfanatics | hmm, is there a way to make that, if someone right clicks on a button while he has a spell on his cursor its mapped to the right click ? right clicking with an action on ur mouse seems to clear said action before the click lands on the frame |
| 16:18.55 | Arcaia | ahh wth.. Sylar is back |
| 16:19.10 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:19.18 | cncfanatics | (I did that with shift, alt & ctrl already, but I can't seem to find a way with right clicks, blizz does messy stuff with the action on the cursor :() |
| 16:19.29 | art3mis | they couldnt think of "good" bad guys so they fell to the old "returns from the dead comic standard" |
| 16:20.13 | cncfanatics | anyone ? :( |
| 16:20.21 | art3mis | OH...YOUR...GOD |
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| 16:21.35 | Valaron|Work | Yes? |
| 16:22.49 | Lopeppeppy | art3mis, we knew that from the season ender. *shrug* |
| 16:23.17 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:23.28 | art3mis | i thought maybe they'd wait a bit longer though |
| 16:23.40 | art3mis | and bring in a new bad guy |
| 16:23.59 | zenzelezz | so who's Sylar? |
| 16:24.10 | art3mis | the bad guy from Heroes |
| 16:24.16 | art3mis | the power leech |
| 16:24.36 | zenzelezz | think I heard of Heroes |
| 16:24.50 | art3mis | its the show with the jailbait cheerleader |
| 16:25.15 | zenzelezz | doesn't ring a bell |
| 16:25.51 | art3mis | http://www.bartcop.com/hayden-panettiere-heroes.jpg |
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| 16:26.42 | art3mis | ^^ her |
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| 16:29.35 | cncfanatics | btw art3mis, I'll stop using rock when something better comes out |
| 16:29.42 | cncfanatics | and atm there's nothing ;) |
| 16:31.04 | Intangir | jailbait cheerleader ;) |
| 16:31.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2.2 ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821 |
| 16:33.11 | Arcaia | OH GREAT |
| 16:33.16 | Arcaia | We have a new fly person. |
| 16:33.18 | Arcaia | Superboy. |
| 16:33.24 | Arcaia | "West" |
| 16:33.31 | Industrial | Intangir: wuh whaT? where? |
| 16:33.41 | Arcaia | flying person* |
| 16:33.54 | Industrial | oh hayden yes, well, lucky im the same age (sorta) |
| 16:33.56 | Intangir | heroes |
| 16:33.59 | Industrial | ;D |
| 16:34.09 | Kandoko | Is there a way to insert a comment field --[[ comments ]] into lua saved variables file? Or should i just create a second table containing the comment code? |
| 16:34.40 | Industrial | Kandoko: no |
| 16:34.53 | Industrial | well, in a value yes but not in the table structure |
| 16:35.13 | sag_ich_nicht | HEY |
| 16:35.16 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter |
| 16:35.18 | sag_ich_nicht | you there? |
| 16:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | or someone else |
| 16:35.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ffs |
| 16:35.55 | sag_ich_nicht | someone quote drysc here and ask about ret paladin threat reduction please: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215846600&pageNo=1&sid=1#6 |
| 16:36.11 | sag_ich_nicht | oh wait |
| 16:36.14 | sag_ich_nicht | someone already did |
| 16:36.16 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm. |
| 16:36.21 | sag_ich_nicht | asshole avoided the question |
| 16:37.43 | Industrial | 1) question --> (_*_) 2) (_*_) question --> |
| 16:37.47 | Industrial | sorry, too lame. |
| 16:37.59 | Kandoko | @ind thanks, thats what I figured :P |
| 16:38.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial |
| 16:38.27 | sag_ich_nicht | shut up |
| 16:38.28 | sag_ich_nicht | and level |
| 16:38.33 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: 39! |
| 16:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 16:38.48 | Industrial | thats like, almost a high as ive never been |
| 16:38.49 | Industrial | er |
| 16:38.50 | Industrial | again |
| 16:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | we'll talk when you can actually move at the same speed that i can move at. |
| 16:38.51 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:39.11 | Industrial | oh, thatl take a while |
| 16:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | (i.e. never, since i'm a paladin) |
| 16:39.17 | Industrial | :< |
| 16:39.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ~iceburn |
| 16:39.33 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, fail |
| 16:39.34 | purl | ACTION gives sag_ich_nicht the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 16:39.36 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 16:39.37 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 16:39.41 | sag_ich_nicht | /headsigh |
| 16:39.49 | Industrial | oh I can btw, I thinks, on a brewfest ram |
| 16:39.50 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:39.52 | zenzelezz | remember that minus minus = plus |
| 16:40.31 | Nom- | ouch... fish tracking... now people are going to be farming fishing spots for all they're worth |
| 16:40.35 | Nom- | :( |
| 16:40.38 | cncfanatics | hmmm, more slappy coding from blizz, crap, they're preventing me to do what I want :( |
| 16:40.40 | Industrial | fish tracking? lol. |
| 16:40.50 | Nom- | Fish Tracking may be learned from a journal, fished from crates |
| 16:40.52 | Kaydeethree | how u mine 4 fish? |
| 16:40.54 | Industrial | are you fkin blind? how are you going to miss something in a TOTALLY flat area? |
| 16:40.57 | Industrial | Kandoko: exactly |
| 16:41.01 | Industrial | er, Kaydeethree |
| 16:42.34 | Lopeppeppy | Nom-, that stinks. Like 5 day old fish. Ick. |
| 16:42.51 | Nom- | Kaydeethree: There's a fishing skill in game... |
| 16:42.52 | Intangir | did yall see the interview on death knights? |
| 16:42.53 | Intangir | it sucks |
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| 16:43.10 | Intangir | this 'interview' and the ONLY piece of information in the whole thing is deathknights will be a tanking class |
| 16:43.14 | zenzelezz | heh, missed this before... Armory search plugin |
| 16:43.15 | Intangir | nothing about how you get them |
| 16:43.27 | Intangir | or what they will be like other than tanking |
| 16:44.06 | wereHamster | Intangir, link? |
| 16:44.12 | Intangir | its on the wow page |
| 16:44.14 | Intangir | main page |
| 16:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Grrrr, there's nothing more annoying than trying to eat a bucket of chicken |
| 16:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | And getting chain phone calls from work that prevents you from doing so |
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| 16:47.35 | Valaron|Work | A bucket of chicken. |
| 16:47.38 | Valaron|Work | Words escape me. |
| 16:47.49 | Nom- | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&n=Destinie <-- ROFL @ 1000 AP |
| 16:48.34 | Nom- | Man... that Pally must be doing all of 300dps |
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| 16:57.34 | Arcaia | haha sylar sucks now. |
| 16:59.04 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Violator <-- nub |
| 16:59.49 | Arcaia | he needs about 250 more spell damage ;P |
| 17:00.09 | Punkie` | how would I do, 'if the raidindex is greater than x then return end'? |
| 17:00.38 | Punkie` | as it returns raidX |
| 17:02.47 | zenzelezz | raid leader quality is a subjective opinion |
| 17:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215456274&sid=1&pageNo=3#40 <-- rofl |
| 17:03.26 | zenzelezz | oops, raid index |
| 17:03.27 | Punkie` | it doesnt matter |
| 17:03.27 | Punkie` | i only want to show 10 people |
| 17:03.27 | Punkie` | then stop |
| 17:05.32 | pastamancer | Punkie`: use a while loop? |
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| 17:17.01 | foxlit | for index, unit, group in RAB_GroupMembers("all 1234") do |
| 17:17.03 | foxlit | <3 |
| 17:22.47 | Thunder_Child | i love reverse number directrorys |
| 17:23.43 | Thunder_Child | got a random call this morning, reversed it... |
| 17:23.43 | Thunder_Child | United States Government Recruiting Army Dept Recruiting Stations |
| 17:24.30 | lolinternet | lol |
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| 17:35.38 | |Jelly| | Valaron, it's almost kitty kicking time. |
| 17:41.03 | Astika | kitty licking? |
| 17:41.07 | Astika | ews. |
| 17:41.17 | Astika | what, that did not sound right. I digress. |
| 17:45.21 | Lopeppeppy | |Jelly|, have you ever seen the Kitten Cannon? |
| 17:45.29 | |Jelly| | no |
| 17:46.57 | Lopeppeppy | I can't give you a link 'cause I'm at work, but google it up. You may be amused in a twisted fashion. |
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| 18:09.28 | lolinternet | lol |
| 18:09.33 | lolinternet | i just beat a frostmage in a duel. |
| 18:09.40 | lolinternet | he logged out without saying anything afterwards |
| 18:09.44 | lolinternet | :X |
| 18:09.50 | Kandoko | Any Stubby Gurus here? |
| 18:10.13 | Astika | lolinternet: what is your class? |
| 18:10.23 | Kaso | might have more luck in #norganna Kandoko |
| 18:10.36 | Kandoko | aye :) |
| 18:11.51 | Cidan | realms up? |
| 18:12.35 | Kandoko | Some |
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| 18:24.46 | Intangir | does anyone know when season3 is getting here? |
| 18:24.58 | Intangir | some guy in my guild says '2.3 and season3 are in sight' not sure why the hell he thinks that |
| 18:25.14 | Kaydeethree | if not season 3 patch day, a week or two later |
| 18:25.21 | Kaydeethree | s/season 3/patch 2.3/ |
| 18:25.31 | Cidan | 2.3 should be soon, soooooon |
| 18:25.38 | Intangir | really? |
| 18:25.42 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 18:25.44 | Cidan | before the month is up to mid november. |
| 18:25.47 | Intangir | so season3 is possibly only a month or two away? |
| 18:25.52 | Cidan | less than two |
| 18:25.54 | Intangir | oh wow |
| 18:25.59 | Kaydeethree | on the ptr this week unless there are other game-breakers in 2.2.3 |
| 18:26.01 | Intangir | holy shit i havent saved enoguh arena points yet |
| 18:26.17 | Cidan | yerp, ptr 2.3 should be up |
| 18:26.22 | Cidan | maybe after 2.2.3 today? |
| 18:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | S3 gear is |
| 18:26.30 | Cidan | so maybe wednesday/thursday |
| 18:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | They said that S3 rewards will be on 2.3 |
| 18:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | But S3 will not start for a while after that |
| 18:26.44 | dreamss | 2.3 comming 2 weeks after they announce season 3 is comming |
| 18:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Link? |
| 18:27.04 | Cidan | Seriously, link? |
| 18:27.05 | dreamss | really scy? |
| 18:27.05 | dreamss | i see |
| 18:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/2215644232.htm |
| 18:28.01 | dreamss | well im wrong, tought i read that season 3 is comming with 2.3 and they give a warning |
| 18:28.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Second to last post |
| 18:28.08 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 18:28.08 | ScytheBlade1 | When season 3 begins. Patch 2.3 will be patching in the season 3 rewards, but may not mark the actual start of the season. We'll let everyone know at least a couple weeks before it's scheduled to start." |
| 18:28.55 | Intangir | cool |
| 18:29.02 | Intangir | cant wait to get a look at what season3 rewards might be |
| 18:29.13 | Intangir | whats the arena points cap |
| 18:29.25 | ScytheBlade1 | 5k? |
| 18:29.31 | Intangir | that seems low |
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| 18:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 18:30.02 | Intangir | i may finally start a serious 3v3 team this week.. |
| 18:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, no, not 5k |
| 18:30.10 | Intangir | finally found a good 2v2 partner whos active and good |
| 18:30.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I forget |
| 18:30.34 | dreamss | i belive cap is 2x the highest priced item |
| 18:30.43 | dreamss | 6.2k ? |
| 18:31.25 | dreamss | ScytheBlade1, ever seen a blue post comment on honor points cap? |
| 18:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 45k |
| 18:31.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I know a few people at the honor cap |
| 18:31.49 | dreamss | is it a hardcap? |
| 18:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 18:33.03 | dreamss | never seen evidence of one] |
| 18:33.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Go hit 45k and you'll have some ;) |
| 18:33.28 | dreamss | i usually spend my points fast |
| 18:33.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be why you lack said evidence. |
| 18:34.05 | dreamss | i meant as in blue post kind of evidence |
| 18:34.34 | dreamss | im sure it can be done on an AV weekend nowdays hehe |
| 18:34.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I have it, in good faith, that the honor cap is 45k |
| 18:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Take it or leave it ;) |
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| 18:35.47 | dreamss | ty |
| 18:35.48 | dreamss | btw |
| 18:36.14 | dreamss | are you on a pvp server? |
| 18:36.24 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 18:36.51 | dreamss | weird |
| 18:37.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Er? |
| 18:37.18 | dreamss | i never meet anyone on my server that been capped, and you have |
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| 18:37.24 | dreamss | and ur not on a pvp server |
| 18:38.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Just because we're not a PvP server doesn't mean that people don't PvP (in arena/BG) less than a PvP server. |
| 18:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Given the state of AV and the BG weekends, I'm not seeing any relation |
| 18:39.49 | dreamss | just seems like pvp servers should render more honor than pve |
| 18:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I know people who rack up 20k honor per day during AV weekend |
| 18:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Over three days = capped, period |
| 18:41.13 | dreamss | true, but usually people spend those points |
| 18:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Not seeing how server type effects an individual's ability to hit the honor cap |
| 18:41.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 18:41.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Unless they have everything they need ;) |
| 18:41.45 | dreamss | exactly, people who pvp for fun are on pvp servers |
| 18:41.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Er |
| 18:41.58 | dreamss | unless they dragged off |
| 18:41.58 | ScytheBlade1 | No? |
| 18:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I PvP for fun |
| 18:42.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a a PvE server |
| 18:42.29 | Cidan | I'm play on PvP servers because I like making horde players lives just that much more shitty. |
| 18:42.32 | Cidan | I love world PvP |
| 18:42.58 | Cidan | I'm glad that the new expansion is focusing on non-instanced world PvP |
| 18:43.03 | dreamss | im not trying to say either server is better than the other |
| 18:43.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Same, hehe |
| 18:43.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I spend hours in Halaa |
| 18:43.10 | dreamss | it just weird |
| 18:43.26 | Cidan | It's for this reason I am leveling a night elf hunter. |
| 18:43.28 | zenzelezz | Cidan: "focus"? Isn't it just one, optional zone? |
| 18:43.35 | Cidan | Not because I want to be "cool" |
| 18:43.35 | dreamss | on my realm usually people get what they need and stop farming honor |
| 18:43.45 | Cidan | but because I trap and shadow meld |
| 18:43.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on a "day one" server |
| 18:43.52 | Cidan | So am I |
| 18:43.54 | Cidan | Eredar |
| 18:43.59 | Intangir | i love pvp |
| 18:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Everyone who needs honor/honor gear has long since learned to make PvP fun, and stop the grind |
| 18:44.21 | Intangir | halaa is completely dead on mug'thol |
| 18:44.23 | Intangir | never any activity |
| 18:44.29 | Intangir | i used to pvp there |
| 18:44.30 | Intangir | till it died |
| 18:44.31 | dreamss | 20k a day is a grind |
| 18:44.37 | Cidan | I dislike outlands |
| 18:44.41 | Cidan | I think it's crap, really. |
| 18:44.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Hardly. They're not in there for the honor. |
| 18:44.53 | Intangir | i like outlands |
| 18:44.56 | Intangir | whats wrong with it? |
| 18:45.00 | ScytheBlade1 | They're in there for the fun, and to piss people off |
| 18:45.02 | Intangir | well all the best stuff is there hehe |
| 18:45.07 | Cidan | It's ugly, the quests are just a bunch of stupid. |
| 18:45.11 | Intangir | theres nothing to do as a 70 in the old lands |
| 18:45.21 | dreamss | yes there is |
| 18:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Clead <-- check out his Honorable Kills |
| 18:45.23 | dreamss | world pvp |
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| 18:45.33 | ScytheBlade1 | He PvPs agressive eveny single AV weekend |
| 18:45.33 | Intangir | not much world pvp in the old lands |
| 18:45.34 | cncfanatics | Cidan, could u help me on something a sec ? I'm wondering something |
| 18:45.37 | ScytheBlade1 | And turtles every game he can |
| 18:45.48 | ScytheBlade1 | See relevant post: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371461016&postId=13713208814&sid=1#27 |
| 18:46.00 | Intangir | where is his honor kills? |
| 18:46.04 | Cidan | cncfanatics: sure |
| 18:46.09 | dreamss | when is group queue av comming back? |
| 18:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Down at the bottom |
| 18:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | "Lifetime Honorable Kills: 110836" |
| 18:46.20 | Kaydeethree | they're thinking about doing group-queue AV in 2.3 |
| 18:46.27 | Intangir | cool |
| 18:46.29 | Intangir | i have 30,000 |
| 18:46.32 | Intangir | and im pretty active ;) |
| 18:46.32 | dreamss | shit i have 100k |
| 18:46.35 | dreamss | non AV |
| 18:46.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I know of two or three other people on the server who have almost double that |
| 18:46.43 | dreamss | he can kiss my ass |
| 18:46.44 | Intangir | what class are yall? |
| 18:46.58 | Intangir | as a rogue i die more often, and get less HK than like a hunter |
| 18:47.00 | Intangir | or healer |
| 18:47.02 | cncfanatics | Cidan, ok, basicly, when you left click a frame u get OnClick with LeftButton passed, when you right click a frame you get OnClick with RightButton passed, now when u have a spell/item/whatever currently on the cursor left clicks will trigger OnClick with LeftButton but right clicks won't trigger shit, I'm wondering why and if there is any way around it ? |
| 18:47.08 | Intangir | or even a warrior, cause warriors get heals, and have better armor |
| 18:47.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Just saying. He's indefinitely honor capped. He still plays, agressively. For fun. |
| 18:47.44 | Cidan | like a spell in hand? |
| 18:47.54 | Cidan | like in the ready to cast? or the icon? |
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| 18:47.59 | cncfanatics | on the mouse |
| 18:48.03 | cncfanatics | like if you wanted to put it on a button |
| 18:48.08 | dreamss | i played 1% av 60-70 ab and rest on wsg |
| 18:48.08 | Cidan | okay, the icon |
| 18:48.14 | cncfanatics | right click will remove the action from the mouse and not trigger anything on the frame |
| 18:48.28 | Cidan | Yeah, because I think it's hooked at a higher level |
| 18:48.32 | cncfanatics | that sucks |
| 18:48.32 | Cidan | and it will hit "first" |
| 18:48.41 | cncfanatics | it should trigger right click on the frame and clear the button after |
| 18:48.51 | dreamss | Lifetime Honorable Kills: 98014 |
| 18:48.52 | dreamss | heh |
| 18:48.58 | dreamss | most of it is as enhas shaman |
| 18:49.03 | Cidan | Find the code where this happens in the WoW API |
| 18:49.04 | dreamss | fun(not rly) |
| 18:49.08 | Cidan | and submit a patch |
| 18:49.14 | cncfanatics | Cidan, is it in FrameXML ? |
| 18:49.17 | Thunder_Child | oh...this is SO much fun... http://picasaweb.google.com/TC.THUNDERCHILD/Misc/photo?authkey=4xUANi2QYF0#5119410230544561362 |
| 18:49.20 | Cidan | I have no clue, :P |
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| 18:49.36 | Cidan | Try to find it, if you can and have a solution, I'll post a patch up for you on the US realms |
| 18:49.43 | Cidan | unless you have an account there |
| 18:49.43 | ScytheBlade1 | This thread pretty much sums up the entire feeling of PvP on my PvE server: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1371461016&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:49.54 | cncfanatics | Cidan, I'm EU, I don't :) |
| 18:49.57 | cncfanatics | lemme try to find it |
| 18:50.01 | cncfanatics | | grep ClearCursor() = win |
| 18:50.19 | dreamss | lol |
| 19:00.02 | Intangir | i bet shaman would be a fun class |
| 19:00.06 | Intangir | ive seen some awesome chain lightnings |
| 19:00.10 | Intangir | kill like 3-4 guys at once hahaha |
| 19:00.23 | dreamss | they are |
| 19:01.09 | Intangir | druids are freaking hard |
| 19:01.12 | Intangir | so complex |
| 19:01.40 | dreamss | seed of cor>chain lighting |
| 19:06.49 | cncfanatics | Cidan, it seems the cursor is cleared internaly |
| 19:06.59 | cncfanatics | ClearCursor is only called 3 times in FrameXML and its totaly unrelated |
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| 19:12.32 | Intangir | what exactly does seed of corruption do? |
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| 19:13.41 | alext | welp |
| 19:14.06 | alext | you cast it and it shoots a little red ball at your target |
| 19:14.25 | alext | it has a dot component so it starts ticking when it is on the target |
| 19:14.48 | dreamss | Imbeds a demon seed in the enemy target, causing 1044 Shadow damage over 18 sec. When the target takes 1044 total damage or dies, the seed will inflict 1110 to 1290 Shadow damage to all other enemies within 15 yards of the target |
| 19:14.49 | alext | after that target takes roughly 1k damage, either from the dot itself or from other damage sources (not including damage from previous seed of corruption explosions) it will "explode" |
| 19:14.51 | dreamss | range is huge too |
| 19:15.15 | alext | a targeted, delayed aoe ftw |
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| 19:15.42 | Intangir | who posted the link to a 52 minute AV BG? |
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| 19:16.01 | alext | it works really good when AV turtles |
| 19:16.05 | Intangir | i was in 45 minute ARENA MATCH 2 days ago |
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| 19:16.23 | Intangir | 45 minute arena |
| 19:16.32 | Intangir | i died, and i killed one of the opponents |
| 19:16.34 | dreamss | tought soc can detonate other socs |
| 19:16.37 | dreamss | did they change that? |
| 19:16.40 | Intangir | then my teammate a warlock ,cahsed a shaman around for almost an hour |
| 19:16.43 | alext | maybe they did change it |
| 19:16.46 | alext | i know it doesnt now |
| 19:16.47 | Intangir | while the shaman barely regened enough to heal |
| 19:16.59 | dreamss | ur warlock sucks |
| 19:17.11 | Intangir | no he just couldnt get the guy |
| 19:17.15 | Intangir | the shaman kept running around pillars |
| 19:17.22 | Intangir | so the warlock rarely had line of sign |
| 19:17.26 | Intangir | sight.. |
| 19:17.29 | alext | what spec lock? |
| 19:17.32 | Intangir | and his pet kept getting bugged and stuck on pillars |
| 19:17.32 | Furl | Earth shock is a fucking bitch too |
| 19:17.33 | alext | if it was affliction that shouldnt matter |
| 19:17.43 | alext | only takes a second for a dot |
| 19:17.44 | Furl | Shaman = heal |
| 19:17.46 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol colldra |
| 19:17.48 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Colldra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (26/35/0). 12926 HP; 8801 Mana; 106 mana regen; 35 spell crit; 36 spell hit; 733 +spell dmg/heal; 4.28% dodge; 345 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 882 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23br8e ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2k56wx ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:19:10 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:17.59 | Furl | aaaaa h hahaha |
| 19:18.17 | alext | hmmm |
| 19:18.21 | Furl | Siphon life/dk |
| 19:18.25 | Intangir | shaman was just a fucking lamer |
| 19:18.26 | dreamss | !c us stormscale pittiez |
| 19:18.28 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Pittiez, Level 70 Blood Elf Warlock (20/41/0). 8693 HP; 8338 Mana; 110 mana regen; 70 spell crit; 24 spell hit; 457 +spell dmg/heal; 4.36% dodge; 79 resilience;[[ TBR: 826 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/24mjzw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3e44qe ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:19:50 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:18.29 | Intangir | he was doing siphon life all the time |
| 19:18.37 | Intangir | just cant seem to kill a guy with it |
| 19:18.50 | Intangir | he basically had to wait, save up ALL his timers |
| 19:18.55 | alext | well in the future, if hes running around chasing a guy and cant get him |
| 19:18.57 | Intangir | and use them all at once to finish the guy off |
| 19:18.59 | alext | just stop and wait for that guy to regen |
| 19:19.00 | Furl | well siphon life ticks every 3s and is very small dmg |
| 19:19.02 | alext | then do 1v1 and end it |
| 19:19.03 | Intangir | had the shaman under 5% like 4-5 times |
| 19:19.09 | Furl | Now here's the deal |
| 19:19.15 | Furl | The warlock stands in the middle |
| 19:19.17 | Intangir | alext: the guy wouldnt do 1v1 |
| 19:19.21 | Intangir | he let him regen twice |
| 19:19.26 | Furl | And \aits for the shaman to stop pussying about |
| 19:19.27 | alext | oh |
| 19:19.28 | alext | thats lame |
| 19:19.29 | Intangir | he just kept doing the same run around pillars and heal strategy |
| 19:19.29 | dreamss | what pet did he had out? |
| 19:19.33 | Intangir | the shaman was extremely lame |
| 19:19.43 | Intangir | my warlock friend mostly used the little mana beast thing |
| 19:19.48 | Intangir | but used a succubus for a while too |
| 19:19.48 | Furl | felhound? |
| 19:19.49 | dreamss | felhunter>shaman |
| 19:19.57 | Furl | Yea. |
| 19:20.08 | Intangir | it was prretty lame, the shaman had no chance to win |
| 19:20.13 | Intangir | my friend almost always had 100% health |
| 19:20.17 | Intangir | only had less when he mana tapped |
| 19:20.27 | Furl | life tapped* |
| 19:20.31 | Intangir | ya that |
| 19:20.35 | dreamss | dc->fear->silennce->fear heh |
| 19:20.47 | Intangir | silence? |
| 19:20.53 | alext | from felhunter |
| 19:20.57 | Furl | Did he ever fear bomb him when he got out of the pillar then seduce him in the middle then shadow bolt, seduce, shadow bolt, death coil? |
| 19:21.03 | dreamss | felpup has a silence, 6s or 5 |
| 19:21.13 | dreamss | err counterspell |
| 19:21.14 | Furl | 28s cd |
| 19:21.15 | Intangir | he did just about everything i could think of, and the shaman kept managing to heal |
| 19:21.26 | Furl | Seduce woulda done him imo |
| 19:21.27 | alext | curse of tongues |
| 19:21.32 | Furl | That as well |
| 19:21.35 | dreamss | heh |
| 19:21.40 | dreamss | mana drain |
| 19:21.46 | Furl | Hehehehe |
| 19:21.48 | dreamss | and dots |
| 19:21.52 | Intangir | i went afk after 40 something minutes |
| 19:21.56 | Intangir | i think he had succubus out at the end |
| 19:22.34 | dreamss | did he try and rez his partner? |
| 19:22.40 | Intangir | the shaman did ya] |
| 19:22.41 | Intangir | twice |
| 19:22.55 | Intangir | both times we let the shaman fill up, he tried to res his partner |
| 19:23.12 | Intangir | oncei fought a shaman for about 20 minutes ;) |
| 19:23.21 | dreamss | felhunter alone should kept the shaman from regen |
| 19:23.28 | dreamss | eats all the buffs |
| 19:24.49 | Intangir | well he had it on him |
| 19:24.56 | Intangir | mostof the time |
| 19:25.00 | Intangir | it kept getting stuck on the pillar though |
| 19:25.01 | Intangir | bugged out |
| 19:25.06 | Intangir | wouldnt reset for like 30 seconds |
| 19:25.13 | dreamss | did the shaman manatide and ur friend dint kill it? |
| 19:25.18 | Intangir | no |
| 19:25.24 | Intangir | he tried some |
| 19:25.29 | Intangir | but my friend kept hitting all his totems |
| 19:25.46 | Intangir | mostly he was doing tremor and earthbind and grounding totems too |
| 19:26.04 | Intangir | it was so lame, he couldnt damage my buddy at all haha |
| 19:26.07 | Intangir | why wouldnt he just give up |
| 19:26.16 | Intangir | its just lucky it wasnt a druid or something ;) |
| 19:26.17 | dreamss | totems cost mana |
| 19:26.19 | Intangir | masters of running away |
| 19:26.24 | dreamss | stop regen |
| 19:26.29 | Intangir | wish i had made note of the guys name you could see his stats |
| 19:26.43 | Intangir | the guy mustve had pretty serious spirit or something |
| 19:26.51 | deltron | eww spirit |
| 19:26.57 | Intangir | well i dont know, whatever regens |
| 19:27.01 | dreamss | shamans dont use spirit |
| 19:27.02 | Intangir | im a rogue i dont know about regen ;) |
| 19:27.16 | dreamss | druids/priests do |
| 19:27.16 | Intangir | !c us mug'thol intangir |
| 19:27.22 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir, Level 70 Undead Rogue (23/0/38). 10064 HP; 1521 AP; 299.600 Melee DPS; 29.04% melee crit; 55 melee hit; 25.32% dodge; 397 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2127 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9est ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2twxfg ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:28:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:27.23 | Intangir | what do shamans use? |
| 19:27.31 | dreamss | mp5/mana |
| 19:27.31 | deltron | Intangir: mp/5 |
| 19:27.39 | deltron | !c us uldum deltron |
| 19:27.41 | ThraeBot | deltron: Deltron, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/5/56). 7169 HP; 9285 Mana; 171 mana regen; 73 mp5; 9745 Armour; 4.80% melee crit; 400 spell crit; 34 spell hit; 784 +spell dmg/heal; 43 nature dmg (827); 4.80% dodge; 5.00% block; 23 resilience;[[ TBR: 1067 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2act57 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/35mja6 ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:29:03 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:27.48 | deltron | ^^^ |
| 19:27.52 | dreamss | more mana = bigger mana tide |
| 19:27.56 | Intangir | lol |
| 19:28.06 | deltron | doh I logged out in my farming gear lol |
| 19:28.08 | dreamss | !c us stormscale dreamss |
| 19:28.09 | Intangir | !vs us mug'thol intangir us uldum deltron |
| 19:28.10 | ThraeBot | dreamss: Dreamss, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (11/5/45). 7328 HP; 10372 Mana; 209 mana regen; 104 mp5; 10436 Armour; 4.03% melee crit; 164 +spell dmg; 1504 +heal; 4.03% dodge; 5.00% block; 48 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1026 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvbj9n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ql9em ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:29:32 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:28.12 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir vs Deltron! A L70 rogue and a L70 shaman square off!; 23/0/38 vs 0/5/56; Intangir wins by 1061 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 19:28.18 | Intangir | LOL |
| 19:28.19 | Intangir | OWNED |
| 19:28.27 | deltron | !c us uldum shabra |
| 19:28.29 | ThraeBot | deltron: Shabra, Level 70 Orc Shaman (0/5/56). 7939 HP; 10892 Mana; 296 mana regen; 176 mp5; 9803 Armour; 4.11% melee crit; 41 spell crit; 153 +spell dmg; 1809 +heal; 4.11% dodge; 5.00% block;[[ TBR: 724 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22ssmf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v5zre ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:29:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 19:28.59 | Intangir | im dominating you guys |
| 19:29.00 | deltron | dreamss: 11/5/45? how's that working out for you? |
| 19:29.25 | dreamss | works fine |
| 19:29.36 | Intangir | !vs us mug'thol intangir us stormscale dreamss |
| 19:29.37 | dreamss | i can heal in pvp and pve |
| 19:29.37 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir vs Dreamss! A L70 rogue and a L70 shaman square off!; 23/0/38 vs 11/5/45; Intangir wins by 1101 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 19:29.49 | Intangir | OWNED!! |
| 19:29.50 | Intangir | hehe ;) |
| 19:29.57 | Intangir | once i fought a shaman for 20 minutes |
| 19:29.59 | dreamss | rogues hate me as resto its funny |
| 19:30.01 | Intangir | it was when i first started arena |
| 19:30.03 | Intangir | i had shit gear |
| 19:30.06 | Intangir | i was a backstabber |
| 19:30.11 | Intangir | and the shaman had his back right to the corner |
| 19:30.16 | Intangir | couldnt really burst damage him |
| 19:30.24 | Intangir | couldnt beat his regen without backstabs |
| 19:30.49 | Intangir | when i finally beat him we had like 500,000 damage done, and 500,000 healing done ;) |
| 19:31.17 | dreamss | back then posions were bugged |
| 19:31.21 | Intangir | even with stuns he seemed to be regening |
| 19:31.23 | dreamss | cant dispell them |
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| 19:31.48 | Furl | My ATSW just set itself on fire :/ |
| 19:32.01 | Intangir | ATSW? |
| 19:32.24 | dreamss | Advanced Trade Skill Window |
| 19:32.25 | Kaydeethree | advanced trade skill window. very good (if buggy) UI mod |
| 19:32.25 | Furl | Advanced Tradeskill Window |
| 19:32.34 | dreamss | l2google |
| 19:32.54 | Furl | Ah, there we are |
| 19:33.05 | Furl | Had to reopen it lol |
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| 19:34.09 | Furl | Anyone know much about loads of silk in one small cramped place? |
| 19:34.14 | Intangir | oh, i have ATSW |
| 19:34.22 | Intangir | ya i like it |
| 19:34.32 | Furl | lol |
| 19:35.10 | Intangir | dairy isle at grocery store? |
| 19:35.13 | alext | if you like ATSW you might want to try Skillet |
| 19:35.36 | art3mis | furl: for farming? |
| 19:35.37 | alext | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7571-Skillet.html |
| 19:35.49 | alext | skillet is very similar to ATSW, but its maintained |
| 19:35.50 | Furl | For tailoring training |
| 19:35.53 | art3mis | centaurs in 1k |
| 19:35.54 | alext | i think ATSW fell off the map |
| 19:35.59 | alext | i havent seen an update in awhile |
| 19:36.17 | art3mis | i ran around there as my priest dotting them all up and waiting for them to die ;P |
| 19:36.41 | Furl | I find they drop alot of wool |
| 19:36.50 | Intangir | can skillet use your other tradeskill to build required items? |
| 19:36.54 | art3mis | wool do run around fenris isle in silverpine |
| 19:36.58 | Intangir | cause i have mining and engineering |
| 19:37.01 | art3mis | which centaurs? |
| 19:37.02 | Kaydeethree | alext, does 9 days ago qualify as "a while"? |
| 19:37.03 | Furl | I'm really about to transition from silk to magewave |
| 19:37.07 | Intangir | would be neat if it would auto smelt what i need if i try to engineer |
| 19:37.07 | art3mis | there's 3 camps |
| 19:37.09 | Kaydeethree | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=2092 |
| 19:37.13 | alext | Kaydeethree: i missed that update then |
| 19:37.30 | alext | I stopped using it when it hit the 3 month no update mark |
| 19:37.50 | alext | might try it again though if its updated, still my fav tradeskill mod |
| 19:37.56 | art3mis | mageweave i "think" the desolace centaurs are good OR the ogres in tanaris |
| 19:38.13 | Intangir | cant wait to see what the season3 shit will be |
| 19:38.15 | Furl | Actually think I just got a good idea meself |
| 19:38.21 | Furl | T6, ntangir |
| 19:38.26 | Intangir | any idea what they will name season 3 gear? |
| 19:38.34 | Intangir | for real? tier6 is gay |
| 19:38.38 | Furl | Here's you r goddamn S3arena gear |
| 19:38.52 | Intangir | tier6 rogue gear looks stupid |
| 19:39.02 | art3mis | thats because rogues look stupid |
| 19:39.09 | Intangir | season1 looked cool |
| 19:39.11 | Furl | ~win art3mis |
| 19:39.12 | purl | Congratulations, art3mis! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 19:39.14 | Intangir | season2 looked alright.. |
| 19:39.24 | art3mis | Intangir: think of it like tv |
| 19:39.31 | Intangir | reruns? |
| 19:39.31 | art3mis | seasons 1 is always awesome cuz its new |
| 19:39.40 | art3mis | then it gets gayer |
| 19:39.45 | art3mis | with each passing year |
| 19:39.48 | Intangir | lol ya |
| 19:39.51 | art3mis | look at star trek |
| 19:39.56 | Intangir | it would be nice if they made ORIGINAL looking gear for pvp |
| 19:39.57 | art3mis | its been around for 40+ years |
| 19:39.58 | Thunder_Child | depends on the show |
| 19:40.02 | art3mis | and you wont find much gayer |
| 19:40.04 | Intangir | rather than always copying tiered gear |
| 19:40.22 | Intangir | stargate was pretty awesome |
| 19:40.27 | Intangir | only a few gay episodes in 10 years |
| 19:40.30 | art3mis | TC: alright invader zim doesnt suffer that fate |
| 19:40.32 | Kaydeethree | they said in the pvp panel at blizzcon that they wanted equivalent gear available through different means |
| 19:40.44 | Kaydeethree | thus, arena gear is reskinned pve tier gear |
| 19:40.49 | Thunder_Child | dunno never watched it |
| 19:40.53 | art3mis | what?! |
| 19:40.56 | art3mis | go rent it now! |
| 19:40.57 | Thunder_Child | dunno never watched it |
| 19:41.00 | art3mis | actually go purcahse it |
| 19:41.07 | art3mis | i guarentee you'll love it |
| 19:41.14 | Furl | Well I really would like to see the lock S3 gear |
| 19:41.14 | art3mis | and guarantee |
| 19:41.19 | Thunder_Child | or my money back> |
| 19:41.19 | Furl | Since it will have more stam XD |
| 19:41.23 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 19:41.32 | art3mis | sure |
| 19:41.39 | art3mis | whatever floats yer boat ;P |
| 19:41.44 | Thunder_Child | and time wasted on the show> |
| 19:41.46 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 19:41.52 | art3mis | no zim is seriously the best cartoon ever made |
| 19:42.03 | art3mis | oh that i cant give back but it wont be wasted |
| 19:43.25 | Furl | Hmm |
| 19:43.35 | Furl | I am having problems validating T6 gear on my server |
| 19:43.36 | Furl | :/ |
| 19:46.15 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gf5gBW5QSo&mode=related&search= <-- here waste 6mins on this |
| 19:48.40 | art3mis | shshshsh not now son im...making....TOAST! |
| 19:48.56 | Intangir | lol |
| 19:50.51 | art3mis | watch that and invader zim clips 2 |
| 19:51.01 | art3mis | and youll get the goodness that is the entire series |
| 19:52.39 | Furl | Grr |
| 19:52.44 | Furl | Boat for ratchet just left |
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| 20:02.29 | Lunessa | Haha... And just as I get done, they need to take our database server offline. |
| 20:02.50 | Lunessa | Oops. Wrong channel :blush: |
| 20:04.19 | deltron | :) |
| 20:04.21 | deltron | GG |
| 20:04.32 | deltron | at least it was work related |
| 20:04.33 | deltron | I hope |
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| 20:05.46 | pastamancer | Oh baby, take my database server offline! I want you to rebuild my table indexes all night long! |
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| 20:08.47 | Lunessa | Yes, it was work-related. |
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| 20:48.56 | [dRaCo] | bleeter, the bad thing is: he's awake at that time. |
| 20:53.39 | cryogen | where would one find the blizzard code that sets up the stancebar? |
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| 21:07.15 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter pffff |
| 21:07.30 | sag_ich_nicht | bleeter this is a channel filled with nerds. |
| 21:07.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't assume ANYONE in here has a normal sleep cycle. |
| 21:08.43 | mikma | well i almost have one :O |
| 21:09.21 | bleeter | while I have been known to not disconnect the screen session, and thus not trip screen_away.pl, I generally do - and did last night. |
| 21:09.47 | bleeter | i'm not one of these folks who feels they need to set their away status by nick |
| 21:09.55 | JoshBorke | i do |
| 21:10.10 | JoshBorke | have a normal sleep cycle that is |
| 21:10.31 | JoshBorke | i'm very cranky when i disrupt it |
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| 21:32.24 | Kaydeethree | "Turkey preparing to invade Iraq. Formation of a fecal-oscillatory rotor matrix is imminent" |
| 21:32.29 | Kaydeethree | gotta love fark bringing humor to bad headlines |
| 21:32.54 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 21:33.00 | sag_ich_nicht | just found a bug in blizzards camera system |
| 21:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | if you have an active ability and sit down(e.g. divine shield), the camera focuses at the wrong height, instead of sitting height, it stays and standing height |
| 21:33.48 | sag_ich_nicht | *it stays at standing height |
| 21:34.14 | Kaso | does it adjust when the effect wears off?? |
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| 21:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 21:35.44 | sag_ich_nicht | stays stuck |
| 21:35.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 21:36.19 | JoshBorke | but if you stand and sit again it fixes itself, correct? |
| 21:37.54 | Kaydeethree | waitasec... they're just now finally giving a nobel prize for hdds? |
| 21:37.56 | Kaydeethree | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7035247.stm |
| 21:38.06 | cog|work | no... |
| 21:38.44 | cog|work | isn't it just for the basis of the perpendicular recording? |
| 21:39.04 | cog|work | (or did i misread? entirely possible...) |
| 21:39.37 | cog|work | guess so... |
| 21:46.20 | Kaydeethree | heh... an actual version of the xkcd "map of the internet" post |
| 21:46.29 | Kaydeethree | http://www.isi.edu/ant/address/ |
| 21:49.54 | Kaso | Ooh i like the coloring, nice visulisation |
| 21:52.14 | Industrial | ive seen these shoulder items |
| 21:52.16 | Industrial | on a hunter |
| 21:52.18 | Industrial | orange |
| 21:52.24 | Industrial | with big fucking blinking eyes |
| 21:52.27 | Industrial | scary man |
| 21:52.31 | Industrial | what item is that? |
| 21:54.16 | Kaso | guessing from the icon, but http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30892 ? |
| 21:54.25 | Intangir | does anyone use eclipse for C++? |
| 21:54.39 | JoshBorke | why would anyone use eclipse ;-) |
| 21:54.55 | Kaso | yah think those are them Industrial, thott has a picture |
| 21:55.01 | Intangir | im thinking of trying it |
| 21:55.04 | Intangir | i want a good IDE |
| 21:55.14 | Intangir | kdevelop seems a bit slow, ad a bit rough around the edges in some areas |
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| 21:56.24 | Industrial | Kaso: yes! |
| 21:56.31 | alestane | Anyone here played much with :HookScript()? |
| 21:56.57 | Kaso | what problem's you having with it alestane ? |
| 21:57.20 | alestane | No problems yet, but I'm writing some code based around it, and I wanted to see what I could learn first. |
| 21:57.39 | Kaso | i apologise for my erronious ' in problems, i feel so shamed |
| 21:57.53 | alestane | Specifically, what happens if you call it when the frame hasn't yet had that script assigned? |
| 21:58.17 | alestane | And what happens if you hook a script on a frame, than set that script from scratch? |
| 21:59.03 | Intangir | !vs us Mug'thol Intangir us Burning Blade Timeless |
| 21:59.04 | Kaso | i cant say for the first one, never tired, but the second one you'll still get your call-back. |
| 21:59.06 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir vs Timeless! Two 70 rogues square off!; 23/0/38 vs 19/42/0; Timeless wins by 22 TBRs! |
| 21:59.11 | Intangir | NO WAY |
| 21:59.16 | Intangir | i dont believe it |
| 21:59.24 | Intangir | ThraeBot: you gotta fix your weighting! |
| 21:59.39 | Intangir | !c us Burning Blade Timeless |
| 21:59.40 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Timeless, Level 70 Undead Rogue (19/42/0). 8944 HP; 1659 AP; 373.100 Melee DPS; 30.43% melee crit; 285 melee hit; 24.76% dodge; 39 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2148 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/22uoof ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2v7ete ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 18:00:28 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:00.06 | Intangir | !c us Mug'thol Intangir |
| 22:00.07 | ThraeBot | Intangir: Intangir, Level 70 Undead Rogue (23/0/38). 10064 HP; 1521 AP; 299.600 Melee DPS; 29.04% melee crit; 55 melee hit; 25.32% dodge; 397 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2127 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2c9est ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2twxfg ][ Updated: Tue Oct 9 15:28:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:00.24 | alestane | For instance, if you call frame:HookScript('OnEvent', someFunc); frame:SetScript('OnEvent', nil), somefunc will still be called whenever frame receives a registered event? |
| 22:00.49 | Intangir | well thats just silly |
| 22:01.03 | Intangir | i hearby challenge everyone in here to a duel on test servers ;) |
| 22:01.11 | alestane | It's an example case and is allowed to be silly. |
| 22:01.20 | Kaso | One would assume no |
| 22:01.30 | Intangir | alestane: i meant the vs match i tried |
| 22:01.41 | Kaso | you cannot hook, if there is no function which to hook in the first place. |
| 22:01.43 | alestane | assume then that the second argument to :SetScript is non-nil. |
| 22:04.31 | alestane | Ah, cladbot is back online and so is cog|work ... it's starting to feel like normal here again. |
| 22:06.16 | Thrae | Intangir: !help vsd |
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| 22:07.55 | Lunessa | Normal? Here? You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. |
| 22:10.35 | alestane | Anything is normal in the right context. |
| 22:10.47 | Cide | >>> 4^5 |
| 22:10.48 | Cide | Cide: 1024 |
| 22:11.00 | JoshBorke | >>> 2^10 |
| 22:11.00 | Cide | JoshBorke: 1024 |
| 22:11.12 | alestane | (By the same token, some context also exists in which that thing is bizarre.) |
| 22:13.09 | Cide | hmm? :P |
| 22:14.52 | Kaso | What's 4^5 |
| 22:15.03 | JoshBorke | 2^10 |
| 22:15.11 | JoshBorke | 8^2.5 |
| 22:15.14 | JoshBorke | >>> 8^2.5 |
| 22:15.15 | Cide | JoshBorke: 181.01933598376 |
| 22:15.22 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 22:15.23 | JoshBorke | or not |
| 22:15.37 | JoshBorke | >>> log(1024)/log(8) |
| 22:15.37 | Cide | JoshBorke: 3.3333333333333 |
| 22:15.53 | JoshBorke | >>> 8^(3+1/3) |
| 22:15.53 | Cide | JoshBorke: 1024 |
| 22:16.05 | Kaso | hehe |
| 22:16.15 | JoshBorke | now how do you get 3.3 out of 5? |
| 22:25.00 | alestane | >>> 16^2.5 |
| 22:25.01 | Cide | alestane: 1024 |
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| 22:26.12 | alestane | x^y^z = x^(yz) IIRC. |
| 22:26.52 | foxlit | Latest ram record: -10s on a lap |
| 22:29.11 | Polarina | Gurkthock yells: $N has defeated the hero of the Warmaul, Mogor! All hail $N! |
| 22:43.45 | sysrage | i like how the patch mentions sound fixes but they didn't really fix jack |
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| 22:45.00 | sysrage | still not playing cast noises sometimes through speakers, and if i plug my headphones in i can't hear cast sounds AT ALL |
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| 23:01.21 | MentalPower | ~seen legorol |
| 23:01.28 | purl | legorol <n=legorol@stud-nat-blk12.trin.cam.ac.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3d 17h 47m 32s ago, saying: 'it's a very annoying problem :)'. |
| 23:03.29 | bleeter | go 'vote' now -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2287950169&sid=1 |
| 23:03.52 | Cidan | man I love cooking yellow rice |
| 23:04.05 | Kaydeethree | yellow rice... damn! knew I forgot to buy something |
| 23:04.16 | Kaydeethree | guess I'll make tacos tomorrow, then |
| 23:04.18 | Cidan | er |
| 23:04.33 | Cidan | I make yellow rice with a few tomatos |
| 23:04.41 | Cidan | or 'tomatoes' if you prefer |
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| 23:13.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmm |
| 23:13.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | has anyone else had the keg thing bug out? |
| 23:15.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh its a 12 hour reset |
| 23:15.16 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 23:15.42 | Sixen | *waves* |
| 23:17.05 | Furl | ~seen elf |
| 23:17.06 | purl | elf <~elf@c-24-14-87-78.client.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1130d 16h 16m 29s ago, saying: 'its just i have rare occasions with things that dont work'. |
| 23:17.26 | Kaydeethree | whoa |
| 23:17.34 | Kaydeethree | lua>1130/365.25 |
| 23:17.34 | cladbot | Kaydeethree: 3.0937713894593 |
| 23:17.48 | Furl | lol |
| 23:18.52 | Furl | lua>.0937713894593*365.25 |
| 23:18.53 | cladbot | Furl: 34.250000000009 |
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| 23:19.40 | foxlit | Stuff to do past midnight: adjust CAS latencies and DDR voltage in BIOS |
| 23:19.58 | foxlit | And in the morning: bemoan own incompetence |
| 23:20.09 | Kaydeethree | does setting those numbers to values that will catch things on fire count? |
| 23:20.29 | foxlit | Well, that would be expensive |
| 23:20.33 | foxlit | But I suppose you could. |
| 23:20.59 | foxlit | Issue was that I was getting random reboots while raiding |
| 23:21.04 | foxlit | "Hey, let's pull Kael!" |
| 23:21.10 | dreamss | lol |
| 23:21.11 | foxlit | *crash, burn* |
| 23:21.32 | foxlit | "Drat." |
| 23:21.41 | dreamss | step one: change ram settings in bios |
| 23:21.49 | dreamss | step two: test |
| 23:21.51 | dreamss | :P |
| 23:21.58 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 23:22.06 | bleeter | Norgs, Nom-, Wobin... and other aussies.. hahaha.. ah.. hahahaha .. ha... http://www.news.com.au/story/0%2c23599%2c22561539-2%2c00.html |
| 23:22.14 | foxlit | Burned a memtest86 CD, seems to be doing better with the updated settings |
| 23:22.24 | foxlit | Used to crash a few seconds into test 5 |
| 23:23.40 | foxlit | Wish I had a clue about what I was doing, though |
| 23:24.13 | foxlit | Rather than "set those numbers to values matching those on the RAM-producer's website, adjust voltage based on forum discussions" |
| 23:24.38 | dreamss | i belive its per mobo basis |
| 23:25.03 | dreamss | your on the right track with memtest86 |
| 23:25.04 | foxlit | Yeah, the GA board seems to report different RAM voltages depending on which bit of software you ask |
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| 23:26.11 | foxlit | And wikipedia technical articles are a pain |
| 23:27.14 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:36] <JoshBorke> but if you stand and sit again it fixes itself, correct? <--yes |
| 23:28.49 | Lunessa | Wow. I just read the whole thread on the pet bar and... people are really angry. |
| 23:30.46 | sag_ich_nicht | night guys |
| 23:31.56 | foxlit | Lunessa: link to the lynch mob! |
| 23:32.13 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2040598135&sid=1 |
| 23:32.32 | Lunessa | Someone needs their blood pressure medication. |
| 23:33.45 | foxlit | It's a valid concern, although voiced a little too aggressively - at least that's what I get from the first 5 posts |
| 23:47.50 | alestane | Lunessa: That's the problem I'm working on fixing right now. |
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| 23:48.36 | Lunessa | I'm aware it's an issue, and I know there are work-arrounds, hacks, etc. I'm just dismayed that people are that angry. |
| 23:50.46 | alestane | Speaking of which, here's my current problem with my fix project...I reparent the PetActionBarFrame to a state header registered to the [pet] condition. It brings the PetActionBarFrame out just like it's supposed to, but it leaves the buttons on that bar behind. Any ideas? |
| 23:52.51 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: http://i22.tinypic.com/2lthea9.jpg ... for this alone I would forgive you nearly any sin. |
| 23:53.40 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 23:54.30 | Lunessa | alestane: The buttons never appear? |
| 23:55.29 | alestane | The funny thing is I can see the autocast indicator. |
| 23:57.57 | Lunessa | alestane: maybe the button positions are being programatically set to accommodate the animation and aren't finishing their sequence? |
| 23:58.28 | alestane | I'm trying to figure it out now....still, moving the frame to which they're anchored should move them... |
| 23:58.42 | Cidan | alestane: Are you creating your frames in XML or lua? |
| 23:58.55 | alestane | My state header is created in XML. |
| 23:59.15 | Cidan | Are you giving everything a name? |
| 23:59.43 | Cidan | It's my experience that Blizzard code out right fails if items aren't given names |
| 23:59.49 | Cidan | ie: the flash function for frames. |
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