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| 00:07.45 | foxlit | foxlit vs the web, round 2342343: http://www.wetdream.com is a redirect to http://www.gofindsome.com/hardcore.html, which is a parking site for NSFW content. |
| 00:11.30 | Thunder_Child | what exactly are you trying to do foxlit? |
| 00:11.57 | foxlit | Find a nice-sounding, short and meaningful domain name that isn't already registered |
| 00:12.56 | foxlit | The backstory with that factoid is that there's a script that runs various variations of keywords (and related words) through a whois check; wetdream.com came up as one of the possibilities for dream. |
| 00:13.00 | Thunder_Child | in regards to anything? |
| 00:13.52 | foxlit | More or less; I can't really phrase a solid criterion |
| 00:14.05 | foxlit | "have to like it" is awfully vague |
| 00:15.36 | Shirik | 14(2011:1111:5614) 14(1115foxlit14) Find a nice-sounding, short and meaningful domain name that isn't already registered |
| 00:15.42 | Shirik | such a thing no longer exists on the intertubes |
| 00:17.57 | foxlit | Shirik: quote possibly, but that doesn't solve the problem :( |
| 00:18.51 | Industrial | !vs eu grim batol loistir eu grim batol seryan |
| 00:18.56 | ThraeBot | Industrial: Loistir vs Seryan! Loistir has +1 lvls on Seryan (42 vs 41); A L42 druid and a L41 hunter square off!; 0/33/0 vs 32/0/0; Seryan wins by 285 TBRs! |
| 00:19.15 | Industrial | hell yah |
| 00:19.22 | Industrial | been ganking him for an hour |
| 00:19.30 | Industrial | dont kill me when im drinking bitch :o |
| 00:19.46 | foxlit | http://info.break.com/static/live/v1/pages/brain/brain.html |
| 00:20.09 | foxlit | descriptions are absolutely crap, but anyhow |
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| 00:51.04 | art3mis | if you are on a flying mount and hold the up arrow + insert key youll do a backflip, enjoy. |
| 00:51.35 | art3mis | hitting delete instead will front flip yuo |
| 00:56.02 | Industrial | depends what insert and delete are bound to eh? |
| 00:56.05 | Industrial | on what* |
| 00:57.26 | art3mis | if they are normal setting itll work ;P |
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| 00:57.39 | Esamynn | art3mis: define normal :P |
| 00:59.26 | Thunder_Child | default |
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| 01:08.05 | sag_ich_nicht | is there some addon that reminds you if someone has come online(with some huge text) |
| 01:08.11 | Cidan | yes |
| 01:08.16 | Cidan | it's called use your eyes and brain |
| 01:08.20 | Cidan | cool new addon |
| 01:08.26 | Cidan | developed at birth |
| 01:08.27 | Cidan | try it out |
| 01:08.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan suicide |
| 01:08.33 | Cidan | never |
| 01:08.36 | sag_ich_nicht | damn |
| 01:08.39 | sag_ich_nicht | worth a shot |
| 01:08.43 | foxlit | Cidan: ffs, it hasn't been updated for ages! |
| 01:08.52 | foxlit | It's not even Ace'd. |
| 01:09.00 | Cidan | aahha |
| 01:09.53 | Esamynn | ~lart foxlit |
| 01:09.53 | purl | flings poo at foxlit |
| 01:10.03 | foxlit | meanie! |
| 01:10.10 | foxlit | ~whalenuke Esamynn |
| 01:10.10 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Esamynn with his mind powers |
| 01:10.16 | foxlit | There we go, conflict escalation |
| 01:12.51 | Cidan | Cairenn: New post on LotroI, General Authoring Discussion |
| 01:13.55 | foxlit | Hrm, out of 1211 URLs people use as websites on one of the forums I visit, I like 5. |
| 01:18.01 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag foxlit |
| 01:18.02 | purl | ACTION makes foxlit feel the effects of a shockwave |
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| 01:18.44 | foxlit | ~whaleshield foxlit |
| 01:19.40 | foxlit | ~whaleshield |
| 01:19.41 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield foxlit from the blast. |
| 01:19.53 | foxlit | So it didn't take a parameter |
| 01:20.57 | Esamynn | it also wouldn't help against a shockwave :P |
| 01:20.57 | foxlit | Depends on the sort of shockwave we're talking about? :) |
| 01:20.57 | Esamynn | true |
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| 02:17.55 | Thunder_Child | you know, authors should get priority xfers on ptr's |
| 02:18.22 | Industrial | howmuch does a stack of superior hp/mana pots cost? |
| 02:18.42 | Thunder_Child | uhh...to make, or to buy> |
| 02:18.44 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 02:18.46 | dreamss | then u gotta police who is an autor |
| 02:19.22 | Thunder_Child | dreamss, just flag their accounts |
| 02:19.45 | foxlit | I don't think T_C was quite serious :) |
| 02:19.45 | dreamss | its not just that |
| 02:20.27 | Thunder_Child | serious...well....think it's gonna happen, no. but it should |
| 02:20.58 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: buy |
| 02:21.01 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: approx |
| 02:21.58 | Thunder_Child | Industrial kinda varies by server doesnt it? |
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| 02:23.06 | Thunder_Child | according to wowhead it's 2g/1 |
| 02:23.17 | Thunder_Child | so 40g for a stack then |
| 02:23.54 | Thunder_Child | same for HP |
| 02:24.06 | foxlit | 4=1 |
| 02:24.30 | Thunder_Child | on your server? |
| 02:24.35 | foxlit | No |
| 02:24.40 | foxlit | according to wowhead it's 2g/1 |
| 02:24.42 | foxlit | stack = 5 |
| 02:24.46 | foxlit | 2g*5 = 10g |
| 02:24.58 | Thunder_Child | i was thinking a stack was 20 |
| 02:25.05 | foxlit | That'd be elixirs |
| 02:25.09 | Thunder_Child | dont usualy use popts |
| 02:25.12 | Thunder_Child | pots* |
| 02:25.16 | foxlit | Potions stack to 5, PvP potions stack to 10 |
| 02:25.25 | foxlit | qq! |
| 02:25.30 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: 40g? jeez :| |
| 02:25.41 | Thunder_Child | ignore me, Industrial, it;s 10g |
| 02:25.58 | Thunder_Child | i was thinking stacks were 20 not 5 |
| 02:26.09 | Industrial | even so I hardly have money to train after I got my mount at 40 :< |
| 02:26.11 | Thunder_Child | i fail |
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| 02:48.00 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: and this is a new thing? :P |
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| 03:31.04 | Kaydeethree | lootlag! joy! I love the PTR |
| 03:31.46 | TC-Holding | i dont, it makes my addons break |
| 03:33.08 | Kaydeethree | pvp's apparently crashing under the load of all the 70s in the US trying to get on it since pve's probably still broken |
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| 04:27.23 | Shirik | Anyone here use wireshark? |
| 04:27.26 | Shirik | (Ethereeal) |
| 04:30.14 | Doggan | Is there any example code on setting the text color of an element in SimpleHTML? It doesn't seem to be working |
| 04:35.51 | Esamynn | Doggan: have you tried using HTML code to set the colour? |
| 04:38.21 | Doggan | Esamynn: Thanks, but that doesn't seem to be working either |
| 04:38.54 | Esamynn | dunno then, I've never played with that particular element |
| 04:43.03 | Corrodias | ugh, bad day at work |
| 04:43.40 | Corrodias | i come in on the weekend to perform something i THOUGHT i was ready for, but i totally can't figure out how to do part of it. i'll just have to let it go until tomorrow, and maybe off into the future depending on whether or not i ever can find a way to do it |
| 04:46.47 | Doggan | Corrodias: have a beer |
| 04:46.54 | Thunder_Child | well dont worry about it, eventuly everyone figures out how to have sex |
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| 05:25.46 | Shirik | eh |
| 05:27.11 | Shirik | you know you're a hacker when someone asks you how to long jump (without mentioning they're talking about halflife) and you respond by indicating that the conditionals are the same, and you just use an exact address instead of a relative address |
| 05:29.07 | art3mis | nerd! |
| 05:29.12 | art3mis | so shirik |
| 05:29.29 | art3mis | if cidan quit wow does that mean that conspiracy is gonna be much much slower? |
| 05:29.34 | Shirik | negative |
| 05:29.53 | Shirik | we have this under control |
| 05:29.55 | Shirik | no worries |
| 05:30.21 | Shirik | and no, there is no private server involved before the discussion arises. I'm strongly against those things. |
| 05:30.30 | art3mis | uh huh |
| 05:30.50 | Shirik | ~dict abscond |
| 05:31.05 | Shirik | er |
| 05:31.09 | Shirik | ~dict 2 abscond |
| 05:31.21 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:31.21 | Thunder_Child | no it worked...to leave |
| 05:31.23 | Cairenn | I stole him :p |
| 05:31.30 | Shirik | ooh |
| 05:31.36 | Shirik | secret hiding together |
| 05:31.38 | Thunder_Child | actually what you said was "lave with Cidan" |
| 05:31.41 | Thunder_Child | leave* |
| 05:31.55 | art3mis | abcond means to secret away |
| 05:32.14 | Cairenn | suckere, errr, convinced him to come join my LotRO guild ;) |
| 05:32.17 | art3mis | spelt correctly of course |
| 05:33.18 | Shirik | ah! |
| 05:33.21 | Shirik | You stole him from me!! |
| 05:34.02 | art3mis | is she stole him he wasnt yours ;) |
| 05:34.19 | art3mis | now stop talking and go finish coding |
| 05:34.29 | Shirik | eh |
| 05:34.33 | Shirik | I don't really like lotr, sorry |
| 05:34.37 | art3mis | oh noes! |
| 05:34.51 | art3mis | if it was warhammer i'd totoally be there |
| 05:35.00 | art3mis | but i dislike the enire world of lotr |
| 05:35.01 | Cairenn | who says I was talking about LotRO? ;) |
| 05:35.22 | Cairenn | art3mis: ! heathen! no hat for you! |
| 05:35.52 | Cairenn | you call yourself a geek and you don't like Tolkien?! |
| 05:36.33 | art3mis | he is painful to read |
| 05:36.42 | art3mis | oh so very painful |
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| 05:36.47 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 05:36.59 | art3mis | he's like zelazny without the wit |
| 05:36.59 | Cairenn | blasphemer! |
| 05:37.11 | Thunder_Child | Geek does not equal enjoting tolken |
| 05:37.15 | Thunder_Child | Tolkien* |
| 05:37.23 | Thunder_Child | enjoying* |
| 05:37.33 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: just give up :p |
| 05:37.37 | Thunder_Child | i dunno why i even bother |
| 05:37.42 | Thunder_Child | /agreed |
| 05:37.53 | art3mis | it's yer fingers and keyboard conspiring against you |
| 05:38.19 | Thunder_Child | na, just my natural dislike for spelling |
| 05:38.23 | Thunder_Child | or grammer |
| 05:38.28 | Thunder_Child | or writing,,,, |
| 05:38.29 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: yes it does, it's a requirement :P |
| 05:38.40 | Thunder_Child | hadly |
| 05:38.45 | Thunder_Child | harldy* |
| 05:38.51 | Esamynn | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 05:38.51 | purl | Thunder_Child: Fail. |
| 05:38.54 | Thunder_Child | hardly* |
| 05:39.01 | Thunder_Child | so very sad |
| 05:39.27 | Cairenn | anyone who likes modern fantasy (thus all D&D, thus any game based on D&D, including WoW) has Tolkien to thank :p |
| 05:39.52 | Esamynn | indeed |
| 05:39.53 | Thunder_Child | he was not the origional for most of the fantasy 'names' |
| 05:40.00 | Thunder_Child | he simply made it popular |
| 05:40.01 | Cairenn | I didn't say he was |
| 05:41.51 | Cairenn | but the fact still remains that he was the grandfather of all modern fantasy and the derivatives thereof, including D&D, which is the basis of pretty well every single fantasy based game |
| 05:41.59 | art3mis | i'd say that most of the medieval legends and mythos, roman and greek history, chinese history/legend/lore had a pretty good deal of influence ;P |
| 05:48.23 | art3mis | really we owe more to gary gygax for creating and expanding the world we live in than a book that told a story ;) |
| 05:53.07 | Cidan | I'm not so sure about that Cairenn |
| 05:53.22 | Cidan | if I remember correctly, it was an interest in wartime games that created D&D |
| 05:53.50 | Esamynn | much of the lore can find roots in Tolkien though |
| 05:54.15 | Cidan | I believe the creator(s?) made it a navy warfare game first |
| 05:54.19 | Cidan | or something like that |
| 05:54.39 | Cidan | then slowly moved to a somewhat fantasy, but eh, it would make sense if Tolkein influenced it |
| 05:54.53 | Cidan | Because even the first D&D world was a lot like LotR |
| 05:55.04 | Cidan | Magic was not commonplace, only a few could really do it well, etc. |
| 05:55.17 | Cidan | What was the name of the world... |
| 05:55.23 | Cidan | before Eberron |
| 05:57.26 | Cidan | Greyhawk |
| 05:57.30 | Cidan | that was it |
| 05:58.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there an event that fires when you first join a *raid* group? (Be it invited to an existing raid group, or converting a party to a raid group) |
| 05:59.01 | Cidan | RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE is it mate |
| 05:59.07 | Cidan | Nothing else, :/ |
| 05:59.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Fires a bit often, so I have to code in a little additional logic |
| 05:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's not too bad |
| 05:59.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 05:59.36 | Cidan | just small one, watch for the initial change over |
| 05:59.38 | Esamynn | there's a sytem message |
| 05:59.40 | Cidan | then unhook from it |
| 05:59.43 | Cidan | oh? |
| 05:59.43 | Esamynn | that says you join a raid group ;) |
| 05:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | There is |
| 05:59.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 06:00.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Know how to watch for it? ;) |
| 06:00.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 06:00.43 | Esamynn | bingo |
| 06:00.45 | Cairenn | with your eyes, presumably? |
| 06:00.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That to |
| 06:00.52 | ScytheBlade1 | o |
| 06:01.06 | Esamynn | ~poke Cairenn |
| 06:01.07 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn, pokes Cairenn repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 06:01.12 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 06:02.07 | Cairenn | speaking of poking people ... Es, pics? |
| 06:02.12 | Cairenn | :p |
| 06:02.43 | art3mis | ~rimshot |
| 06:02.44 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 06:02.54 | Esamynn | umm, errr, uhhh |
| 06:03.17 | Cairenn | uh huh ... |
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| 06:03.40 | Cairenn | ~whaleslap Esamynn |
| 06:03.41 | purl | ACTION beats Esamynn upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 06:04.51 | Esamynn | oh, there they are |
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| 06:07.21 | Cairenn | Iriel is forgivable, since his aren't digital |
| 06:07.29 | Esamynn | yes they are! |
| 06:07.47 | Cairenn | ? |
| 06:08.02 | Cairenn | I wasn't aware of that being a digital camera he uses |
| 06:08.02 | Esamynn | it was a DIGITAL SLR he was carrying, at least I thought it was |
| 06:08.06 | MentalPower|AFK | yes they are |
| 06:08.18 | Cairenn | well okay then |
| 06:08.22 | Thunder_Child | hes a good geek, digital all the way |
| 06:08.35 | Esamynn | you know what, I'm going to setup a gallery for these |
| 06:08.46 | Cairenn | no no, just send them to me |
| 06:08.50 | Esamynn | you sure? |
| 06:09.01 | Cairenn | are you kidding? of course I'm sure! |
| 06:09.24 | Cairenn | (that way I can weed out all the bad ones first before they get put out there anywhere) |
| 06:09.38 | Esamynn | bad ones huh? |
| 06:09.43 | Esamynn | you mean all the ones with you in them :P |
| 06:09.44 | Thunder_Child | dot let her... |
| 06:09.48 | Thunder_Child | dont* |
| 06:09.48 | Cairenn | precisely |
| 06:10.18 | MentalPower|AFK | Esamynn: I concurr with the gallery website |
| 06:10.22 | Cairenn | no |
| 06:10.26 | MentalPower|AFK | that way we can all upload to the same place |
| 06:10.45 | MentalPower|AFK | Cairenn: you don't get to vote, you don't have any pics :P |
| 06:10.53 | Cairenn | do to! |
| 06:11.02 | art3mis | thats only because shes part vampire |
| 06:11.42 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, set it up, we will post |
| 06:11.51 | Esamynn | ok, give me a couple minutes |
| 06:11.59 | Esamynn | I'm going to stick it on one of our new servers |
| 06:12.06 | Esamynn | no space on the old one anyways |
| 06:12.51 | Esamynn | MentalPower|AFK: the question is, what url to use... |
| 06:12.52 | MentalPower|AFK | lol |
| 06:13.08 | Cairenn | well, regardless, there are a few you can't post :p |
| 06:13.24 | MentalPower|AFK | blizzcon.norganna.org (for now)? |
| 06:13.31 | Esamynn | sure |
| 06:14.00 | Cairenn | (but I still want copies of those ones) |
| 06:14.01 | MentalPower|AFK | make sure to change the bind config on both servers |
| 06:14.34 | MentalPower|AFK | we can do private folders on gallery |
| 06:14.43 | Thunder_Child | then like everyone esle Cairenn, you can DL them from the gallery :) |
| 06:15.03 | art3mis | wonder what the secret ones are. |
| 06:15.29 | Thunder_Child | cant be her ass, thats already on the net.... |
| 06:15.34 | Cairenn | >< |
| 06:15.37 | Cidan | indeed |
| 06:15.41 | Cidan | and a fine one i... er |
| 06:15.43 | Cidan | never mind |
| 06:16.12 | art3mis | and that one shot where she was getting the trolls ehad necklace for flashing? |
| 06:16.30 | Cidan | wait what? |
| 06:16.32 | Cidan | I missed that one |
| 06:16.38 | Cairenn | so did I, apparently |
| 06:17.42 | Thunder_Child | it was at the mardi graaaaahs festival |
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| 06:37.21 | art3mis | 1077 |
| 06:37.50 | Cairenn | that was random, art3mis |
| 06:39.32 | art3mis | its the price of a cheese pizza and a soda at panuccis |
| 06:40.45 | art3mis | i'm immortal |
| 06:41.14 | Fisker- | then how come i killed you? |
| 06:41.25 | art3mis | don't make me add "Inspired by Fisker- of #wow-iloung and #wowace on freenode" to the HKUI credits |
| 06:41.37 | art3mis | ;) |
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| 06:41.57 | Cairenn | oooo, now there's a threat if ever I heard one! |
| 06:42.23 | Fisker- | nah |
| 06:42.30 | Fisker- | it's barely registering on my brain |
| 06:43.15 | art3mis | im bored of my metalocalypse ui |
| 06:43.27 | art3mis | wonder what i should do next |
| 06:47.29 | art3mis | i wonder if the people that made the comebacksrealize that spoofing a spoof like dodgeball is completely retarded and makes you about the same |
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| 07:11.13 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org/ I'll need to create a user for you |
| 07:11.31 | Thunder_Child | capy |
| 07:11.36 | Thunder_Child | ...copy* |
| 07:11.53 | Thunder_Child | seems a little bare |
| 07:11.58 | Esamynn | :P |
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| 07:24.15 | art3mis | hehe |
| 07:24.22 | art3mis | My BlizzCon photos. |
| 07:24.31 | art3mis | P.s: i didnt actually attend this year. |
| 07:32.05 | Thunder_Child | no blizzcon paperazti? |
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| 07:33.30 | Coldfury | any1 know whats the formatstring to make 03 appear like 3 |
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| 07:36.46 | Furl | Address me... as dong-bat |
| 07:39.00 | Thunder_Child | yes your dong-batness |
| 07:39.15 | art3mis | i wish the abrking quest would hurry and reset ;) |
| 07:39.18 | art3mis | barking |
| 07:39.22 | art3mis | i want my ram mount |
| 07:40.03 | Thunder_Child | i picked up 32 of the tickets...havnet bothered to go back since |
| 07:40.31 | art3mis | heh i just think a BE pally on a ram will be amusing |
| 07:41.19 | art3mis | hrm not a bad day to, been farming consortium rep, made about 300g plus one of each cloth |
| 07:41.31 | art3mis | and about 8k rep or so |
| 07:42.12 | art3mis | im wondering if it would be faster to farm the area by area52 or just stay up here by ultris |
| 07:42.36 | Thunder_Child | i get much bored with grinding, hence i cant bring myself to do dailies any more |
| 07:42.47 | art3mis | yeah i gave up on the dailies |
| 07:42.53 | art3mis | this is at least semi fun |
| 07:43.02 | art3mis | getting the keys and seeing what comes out of the prisons |
| 07:43.16 | Thunder_Child | it's good money but...bad so repeditive |
| 07:43.23 | art3mis | yeah |
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| 07:43.43 | art3mis | ive got a 60day card sitting ehre and my account is about to die(like 2 or 3 days |
| 07:44.00 | art3mis | just so meh |
| 07:44.06 | Thunder_Child | to lazy to put in the numbers? |
| 07:44.49 | art3mis | not sure if i just wanna wait a couple of months or actually try for some of the helloween things |
| 07:45.03 | art3mis | it's just soooooo boring |
| 07:45.52 | Coldfury | any1 know whats the formatstring to make 03 appear like 3 |
| 07:45.59 | art3mis | im getting so sick of patches and addpacks like tbc that end up getting gear towards grouping and end game compeltely fucking over the single player that plays for the game fun and occasional groups but doesnt wanna bother with the whole guild/raid dynamic |
| 07:46.07 | bleeter | wouldnt be so bad if the rep guaranteed you a blue gem from the sack of gems, but it don't seem to |
| 07:47.06 | art3mis | the whole rep grind thing is retarded |
| 07:47.18 | art3mis | at least with consortium then went for a decent sized amount |
| 07:47.32 | art3mis | you'd think that killed 8000 mobs for a faction would make them happy |
| 07:47.44 | art3mis | but noooOOOOooo they still want special things |
| 07:47.45 | bleeter | art3mis: yup, agree with the single player thing. it's totally ungeared for a casual player. |
| 07:48.25 | art3mis | sadly most mmo's are like that |
| 07:48.29 | Coldfury | not really, im a casual player and im decently geared with some pvp epics, some arena gear and my t4 gloves from a pug kara |
| 07:48.36 | bleeter | i mean, a dedicated casual player.. though I suspect that's to some degree caused by other people's mentality. witness what's going on on the PTR at the moment, folks in kara gear getting kicked from groups for ZA |
| 07:48.36 | art3mis | i can see why, but that doesnt mean they should totally neglect it |
| 07:48.56 | bleeter | 'coz they're not t5/t6, and those in t5/t6 insisting that it's good fer testing that they have t5/t6 |
| 07:49.21 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:49.25 | bleeter | I feel like it's.. hello! are you doing some pretend kinda test? |
| 07:49.32 | Furl | Bah forgot a bloody bracket |
| 07:49.36 | bleeter | so ya can flex your epeen when it goes live |
| 07:49.38 | art3mis | cuz thats just what the world neds is tweaking based on the uber echelon |
| 07:49.41 | bleeter | Furl: dontya hate that |
| 07:50.10 | art3mis | i mean take the epic wind riders as example |
| 07:50.12 | Furl | Bleeter: indeed. |
| 07:50.15 | art3mis | the price is retarded |
| 07:50.23 | Furl | No |
| 07:50.28 | bleeter | blizz have basically run up the white flag for the dedicated casuals my acellerating the 20-60 XP stuff |
| 07:50.31 | art3mis | a good 80% of the people i know stuck at the 1k cuz meh it flew |
| 07:50.34 | Furl | It's "FUCKING OMGWTF" retardd |
| 07:50.40 | bleeter | 'you must get to 70 hurry!' |
| 07:51.14 | art3mis | i mean sure its fun and all |
| 07:51.15 | bleeter | I couldn't be arsed with epic flier tbh |
| 07:51.19 | Coldfury | any1 know whats the formatstring to make 03 appear like 3 |
| 07:51.23 | bleeter | but will go the engi one for the hell of it |
| 07:51.33 | Furl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366690063&postId=23664277027&sid=1#9 |
| 07:51.40 | Furl | lua> 03 |
| 07:51.40 | cladbot | Furl: 3 |
| 07:51.42 | art3mis | but really how hard would it have been to make some new gear and tone down the abilities of the 25mans to give the pugs and casuals a shot at it |
| 07:52.04 | art3mis | cold |
| 07:52.05 | Coldfury | lol |
| 07:52.09 | art3mis | check clockfu |
| 07:52.18 | art3mis | it displays AM as 1:xx:xx |
| 07:52.26 | art3mis | so it's bound to be in there somewhere |
| 07:52.29 | Coldfury | kk thanks |
| 07:53.47 | art3mis | part of me thinks i should at least trial lotr |
| 07:53.53 | art3mis | and see if its more the style i want |
| 07:54.14 | art3mis | but i think all the losers with names like xxxlegolasxxx would drive me crazy |
| 07:55.56 | Furl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366690063&postId=23664277110&sid=1#11 |
| 07:56.23 | Furl | art3mis: Save yourself the pain and agony |
| 07:56.39 | art3mis | i played the ddo beta |
| 07:56.44 | art3mis | i LOVED its combat system |
| 07:56.50 | art3mis | its social system just sucked badly |
| 07:57.00 | Furl | That's DD in it's heart! |
| 07:57.56 | Furl | Wait that makes no sense |
| 07:58.05 | Furl | How can you have ddo with a sucky comm sys? |
| 07:58.28 | Furl | Never played the damn thing so enlighten me |
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| 08:00.44 | art3mis | it's wierd |
| 08:00.57 | art3mis | they had a city channel but it was only the city you were in |
| 08:01.28 | art3mis | and they had everyone scattered around so if they werent in say or yell range you couldnt be sure anynoe was there |
| 08:01.45 | art3mis | a couple of the dungeons required friends, but for the most part you could feasibly exp alone np |
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| 08:06.10 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk, for whever you wake up |
| 08:06.12 | Shirik | 14(0111:3511:5014) 14(11@15Cairenn14) you call yourself a geek and you don't like Tolkien?! |
| 08:06.13 | Shirik | 14(0111:3611:3014) 14(1115art3mis14) he is painful to read |
| 08:06.17 | Shirik | I totally agree with this statement :P |
| 08:06.26 | Thunder_Child | which one? |
| 08:06.44 | Thunder_Child | there are two statements there |
| 08:06.53 | art3mis | wow nice servers on lotr though |
| 08:07.00 | art3mis | leeching the client at 1.8MB |
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| 08:07.17 | art3mis | 47mins til 6gb is leched |
| 08:07.21 | art3mis | plus ive got wow open |
| 08:07.25 | bleeter | last time I tried Lotr it blew up in my face >< |
| 08:07.29 | Thunder_Child | wow takes nothing |
| 08:07.40 | Thunder_Child | 3-5 KB/s is what wow uses |
| 08:07.46 | Thunder_Child | a mere nothing |
| 08:08.29 | Esamynn | I know, wonderful huh? :) |
| 08:08.34 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: art3mis's statement |
| 08:08.43 | art3mis | **wonders about botting lotr and get in early ont eh gold selling ;) |
| 08:08.56 | Thunder_Child | yea Esamynn, i cant bittorrent while i wow |
| 08:08.56 | art3mis | well mostly early |
| 08:09.14 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, one day you to will grow up |
| 08:09.27 | Shirik | there is a lot of interesting reads out there |
| 08:09.36 | Shirik | however I just can't wrap my head around him |
| 08:09.48 | art3mis | while his writing was incredibly descriptive, after a while it became a touch tedious to read |
| 08:10.10 | art3mis | i mean honestly its a big black charred mountain alright move on to the exposition |
| 08:10.18 | Esamynn | haha |
| 08:10.41 | Thunder_Child | i had a friend who couldnt read more than the first couple of chapters of snow crash because of the absurdidty of "a ninja sword wielding pizza delivery guy". i wanted to beat his face in |
| 08:10.54 | art3mis | haha snow crash rocked though |
| 08:11.06 | Thunder_Child | it's an awesome read |
| 08:11.08 | art3mis | only for nerds though |
| 08:11.17 | Thunder_Child | he is |
| 08:11.38 | art3mis | the people that could eead a paper on rational exponents in relational polynomials |
| 08:11.50 | art3mis | and giggle at certain parts |
| 08:11.58 | Esamynn | haha |
| 08:12.06 | art3mis | because "he forgot to use the theta value of xy^3 |
| 08:12.13 | Thunder_Child | i love eeed'ing papers |
| 08:12.25 | art3mis | hehe some are good |
| 08:12.31 | art3mis | some make me wanna hurt things |
| 08:12.45 | art3mis | and some just make me feel woozy |
| 08:12.54 | art3mis | (anything by feynman) |
| 08:15.27 | bleeter | heh |
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| 08:25.17 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:25.57 | art3mis | cidan just started LotR and he's already posting on the lotroi forums about an API design |
| 08:26.06 | cncfanatics | :o ? :o |
| 08:26.15 | cncfanatics | ain't that quite typical ? :p |
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| 08:26.27 | art3mis | heh yeah i just think its funny that he made the choice today ;P |
| 08:27.51 | art3mis | oo i better not log off |
| 08:27.57 | Thunder_Child | some people cant simply use whats avaliable, they have to have more |
| 08:28.03 | art3mis | my gametime expires in wow in about 25mins |
| 08:28.42 | art3mis | October 14, 2007 4:46 AM PDT oh wait 3 hours 15mins |
| 08:28.42 | Thunder_Child | why dont you use the 60 day card....and buy another later on? |
| 08:29.09 | art3mis | well cuz if i start playing lotr and enjoy it then it's sort of a waste |
| 08:29.29 | Thunder_Child | cant have 2? |
| 08:29.41 | art3mis | im a touch obsessive |
| 08:30.21 | art3mis | although may as well |
| 08:30.31 | art3mis | ive had this card for a while so i wonder if it's still good |
| 08:31.14 | art3mis | guess it is |
| 08:31.35 | art3mis | of course knowing my luck ill get banened for swearing or something tomorrow ;P |
| 08:31.43 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 08:32.07 | Thunder_Child | then dont do something stupid |
| 08:32.27 | art3mis | i very first warning was someone reporting me for calling myself a dick on general |
| 08:32.32 | art3mis | like wtf |
| 08:33.01 | Thunder_Child | happens...i call myself names and my famly gets bitchy |
| 08:33.07 | Thunder_Child | family* |
| 08:33.27 | art3mis | heh no real worries though |
| 08:33.58 | art3mis | ive got another account sitting doing nothing i can drop a GC on and maybe doing 1-60 will be fun and give me something entertaining to do |
| 08:34.58 | Thunder_Child | wait for 2.3 at least |
| 08:36.36 | art3mis | wonder what solo content is getting added |
| 08:36.49 | art3mis | i'd love new solo instances tooled for each class |
| 08:37.02 | art3mis | after a big series of quests to solo the old world 5mans |
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| 08:41.05 | Esamynn | art3mis: heh, they're already soloable :P |
| 08:45.26 | Fisker- | ~seen tuller |
| 08:45.28 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 51m 53s ago, saying: 'well, OmniCC is set to be toplevel + I manually set the framelevel of the text frames to be quite high by default :P'. |
| 08:45.33 | Esamynn | good night everyone |
| 08:45.42 | Fisker- | remember to attack art3mis Esamynn |
| 08:45.52 | Esamynn | ~poke Fisker- |
| 08:45.53 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Fisker-, pokes Fisker- repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 08:46.11 | Fisker- | no u :( |
| 08:46.18 | Fisker- | i'm just gonna go fish then |
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| 08:55.43 | Speeddymon_ | anyone know if the general metadata field, X-Category is supposed to support multiple categories (separated by a comma) or if it was intended to only support a single category? |
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| 09:09.37 | Kaso | I was out at a bar last night, and couldn't help think how much the rack of Blue WKD looked identical to Nukacola; |
| 09:09.39 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/DSCF2078.jpg |
| 09:09.44 | Kaso | http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Nuka-Cola |
| 09:09.50 | Kaso | Then i felt like a huge nerd. |
| 09:13.04 | Doggan | Speeddymon_: I believe it's only 1 |
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| 09:23.18 | art3mis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366679754&sid=1 |
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| 10:17.22 | Kaso | American dates confuse me |
| 10:17.35 | Kaso | What date does "04-08-01" represent? |
| 10:18.15 | Kaso | 4th August 01? 8th of April 01? 1st of August 04? 8th of Jan 04 ? |
| 10:18.38 | zenzelezz | think it's MM-DD-YY, but I'm not sure |
| 10:19.21 | Kaso | So, April 4th 01, thanks |
| 10:19.43 | Kaso | As a british person i can't get why you would use sequential dd mm yy format :< |
| 10:20.00 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 10:21.04 | Kaso | Well it just makes sense, start with the shortest period of time, then onto the next longest, then onto the longest period of time |
| 10:21.37 | Kaso | i guess the other way around makes sense too, yy mm dd, but the starting with the middle-length period of time, then the shortest then the longest seems counter-intuitive to me |
| 10:22.15 | zenzelezz | the way I look at it, a day belongs to a month, and a month to a year, so it's DD-MM-YY(YY), but this may be biased from growing up with this format |
| 10:22.38 | Kaso | yah thats sorta the same thinking i have |
| 10:23.02 | Kaso | Now someone in the same thread uses "2002-07-14" i sware these people are going out of their way to make it confuse for me :< |
| 10:24.00 | zenzelezz | YY(YY)-MM-DD is some sort of standard I think? |
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| 10:24.57 | Kaso | The problem with dates is there are plenty of "standards" but they all look the same, so with many dates, you can't tell which is being used |
| 10:25.13 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 10:27.59 | wereHamster | man strftime: %D Equivalent to %m/%d/%y. (Yecch -- for Americans only. Americans should note that in other countries %d/%m/%y is rather common. This means that in international context this format is ambiguous and should not be used.) |
| 10:28.56 | buu | Well, if you normally say "April 05, 2001" |
| 10:29.00 | wereHamster | and %F Equivalent to %Y-%m-%d (the ISO 8601 date format). |
| 10:29.02 | buu | Then mm/dd/yy .. |
| 10:30.28 | zenzelezz | many nationalities don't pronounce dates that way |
| 10:31.01 | Kaso | i would say "The fifth of April, 2001" |
| 10:31.41 | zenzelezz | same over here |
| 10:32.44 | Kaso | and the problem with the ISO 8601 is that non-computer scientists tend not to stick to ISO standards wereHamster :< |
| 10:32.47 | Kaso | (silly noobs) |
| 10:33.08 | zenzelezz | "the good thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from" |
| 10:33.15 | Kaso | haha yes |
| 10:36.36 | krka | yy-mm-dd is obviously the best format |
| 10:36.46 | krka | date sorting is then equivalent to string sorting |
| 10:36.49 | krka | which is convenient |
| 10:37.51 | krka | i always use four digit year though, makes it less ambiguous |
| 10:38.04 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 10:38.18 | Kaso | yah, i think yyyy-mm-dd has the best chance of being un-ambiguous |
| 10:38.57 | Kaso | you'd think after all the millennium bug drama people would've stopped using two digit year :< |
| 10:39.11 | krka | imo, writing dates as dd-mm-yy, is about the same thing as writing one hundred fourty five as 541 |
| 10:39.35 | foxlit | krka: least significant bit first |
| 10:39.55 | krka | that's not how we write numbers |
| 10:40.27 | krka | i dont really care if it's lsb first or last, but it should be the same everywhere |
| 10:40.42 | foxlit | Tell that to Motorola |
| 10:40.49 | krka | and i dont see a big chance of changing default number display |
| 10:41.04 | krka | not following you |
| 10:41.19 | foxlit | There wasn't really anywhere to follow. |
| 10:42.01 | krka | want to elaborate? |
| 10:42.34 | foxlit | Nah, I'm merely poking at the difference in endianness between Intel and Motorola processors. |
| 10:43.00 | krka | ah i see |
| 10:43.02 | foxlit | Doesn't really change anything in regards to the conversation |
| 10:43.18 | krka | that's another issue that needs to be standardized some way |
| 10:43.34 | krka | not as important though, since humans rarely need to worry about it |
| 10:43.37 | krka | unless they're developers |
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| 10:43.58 | foxlit | Think dd-mm-yy is reasonable for most current dates |
| 10:44.12 | foxlit | Or, rather, dates that are intended to be current rather than unambigious |
| 10:44.35 | krka | problem is that some places use mm-dd-yy |
| 10:44.37 | foxlit | For everything else, there's, well, er, timestamps |
| 10:45.09 | zenzelezz | you could argue the same for language |
| 10:45.24 | zenzelezz | some write right to left, some top to bottom, but that doesn't make us left-to-righters change |
| 10:46.17 | krka | list of stupid countries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#mm.2Fdd.2Fyy_or_mm.2Fdd.2Fyyyy_.28month.2C_day.2C_year.29 |
| 10:46.37 | Kaso | We should switch to using Hex to represent month, 4 digit for years and 2 digits for day, then there is no problem! |
| 10:47.04 | Kaso | it's 14/A/2007 ! |
| 10:47.29 | krka | sure, if everyone switches to the same format, there's no problem |
| 10:47.43 | Kaso | Yah that might be the slight hitch in my plan |
| 10:47.45 | foxlit | I say we just find Jesus agai |
| 10:47.46 | foxlit | n |
| 10:47.49 | foxlit | Makes dates simple! |
| 10:48.32 | krka | the problem has already been solved. the answer is ISO 8601 |
| 10:48.40 | zenzelezz | "remember how in 400 before Jesus-1 they used ... while 300 before Jesus-2 they...." |
| 10:49.01 | krka | sweet zombie jesus! |
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| 10:50.24 | Kaso | The issue i have with ISO 8601 is the months and days fields are still (possibly) ambiguous |
| 10:50.27 | foxlit | Hey, that brings up an issue |
| 10:50.40 | foxlit | How does ISO 8601 handle dates like 2007 BC? |
| 10:51.09 | Kaso | minus years i think |
| 10:53.15 | Kaso | To represent years before 0 or after 9999, the standard also permits expansion of the year, by agreement between sender and receiver[3]. An expanded representation may have (an agreed number of) extra year digits, and is always prefixed with a sign (+ or −), with the convention that 0 is positive. |
| 10:54.23 | zenzelezz | how do paleontologists write their dates? "This creature lived around -65000000.01.01"? |
| 10:55.25 | krka | i dont think they have month/day accuracy |
| 10:56.04 | zenzelezz | lazy bastards |
| 10:56.08 | Kaso | they do it in unix time. -2049840000000001 ! |
| 10:56.18 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 11:00.32 | Kaso | ISO 8601 does allow truncating date and month, as well as BC, and greater than 4 digit years by agreement, so -65000000 could be permissible |
| 11:03.58 | art3mis | well the problem with that is the US still ahsnt accepted metric, because "jesus didnt" |
| 11:04.16 | zenzelezz | and see where it got him |
| 11:04.43 | art3mis | heh and they wonder why the good christian hitler was mad at them |
| 11:05.16 | art3mis | hehe john stewart did a dig agaisnt that moron thats running for pres |
| 11:05.33 | art3mis | "yeah the us rocks it's an awesome country, we even had our own jesus!" |
| 11:07.15 | Kaso | you mean Mormon running for pres ? |
| 11:07.22 | art3mis | yeah |
| 11:07.23 | zenzelezz | you know, the only thing I dislike about MSBT is setting up the event colors... always end up hacking the savedvariable file to get exactly the same color (WTB improved color picker) |
| 11:07.35 | art3mis | i dont think ive ever typed mormon properly the first time |
| 11:07.38 | Kaso | hehe |
| 11:07.52 | Kaso | something telling about that miss-spell i think |
| 11:07.53 | art3mis | zen |
| 11:08.02 | art3mis | can you enter in the numbers ? |
| 11:08.12 | zenzelezz | in-game? Not that I'm aware of |
| 11:08.13 | art3mis | or is it still using that basic colour wheel? |
| 11:08.20 | zenzelezz | yeah, color wheel |
| 11:08.45 | foxlit | Well, I suppose you could sneak in a proper texture and a function to generate it somewhere |
| 11:08.58 | art3mis | rock config has a nice colour picker |
| 11:09.05 | art3mis | as does dart/duf |
| 11:09.09 | foxlit | link screenshots etc |
| 11:09.20 | art3mis | dont have any dont use rock |
| 11:09.29 | art3mis | but you can enter the numbers in it |
| 11:09.35 | art3mis | thats about the only thing in rock i like |
| 11:10.14 | zenzelezz | it's my personal opinion that any color picker anywhere should allow you to enter the values (whether R/G/B, H/S/V or whatever) and not force you to approximate the color on some chart |
| 11:10.20 | art3mis | i suppose technically you could either ask ckk to release just the picker |
| 11:10.30 | art3mis | OR rip it out and hack it yerself |
| 11:10.47 | zenzelezz | easier to just hack the savedvariable :-p |
| 11:10.54 | art3mis | heh yup |
| 11:11.18 | art3mis | well i think its bed time for me, lates kiddies |
| 11:11.25 | art3mis | i gotz mah racing ram ;) |
| 11:11.34 | zenzelezz | grats |
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| 12:10.22 | Olison | how can i hide the scroll up/down buttons from a specific chatwindow? |
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| 12:17.35 | Kaso | button:Hide() ? |
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| 12:30.05 | Olison | hm im thinking more of a addon, im not a lua programmer :< |
| 12:31.28 | Kaso | I know there are addons that remove the scrollbuttons for all chat windows, but im not aware of any that remove just for a specific one im afraid |
| 12:33.41 | Kaso | but its real simple to code; |
| 12:33.43 | Kaso | ChatFrame1:Hide(); |
| 12:34.16 | Kaso | just put that into one of your other addon's main lua file and it should run on startup and hide the buttons for ChatFrame1 (change to 2,3,4,etc for which one you want) |
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| 15:40.00 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone familiar with tainting of the blizzard raidtab(in the social frame) and mass fps drops caused by it? |
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| 15:53.01 | zenzelezz | mine shows blank while in combat, think it's an addon interfering |
| 15:55.06 | sag_ich_nicht | same here, and it sucks my FPS dry |
| 15:57.39 | foxlit | Hm, I still have a tainting bug with that. |
| 15:57.47 | foxlit | I wonder. |
| 15:58.07 | foxlit | Didn't they change the raid tab no non-secure frames? |
| 15:58.30 | foxlit | So it should still at least show in combat :/ |
| 15:59.18 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't for me, it's coming from SOME addon, i wanna find out which and punch the author |
| 15:59.35 | sag_ich_nicht | so i asked if anyone is familiar with the problem so i know which vars to check for taint :P |
| 15:59.46 | sag_ich_nicht | and then grep my addon folder for the addon |
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| 15:59.55 | sag_ich_nicht | since 50:50 disabling just isn't possible :X |
| 16:00.11 | foxlit | Make another addon to automate disabling? |
| 16:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | no u |
| 16:02.11 | foxlit | Can't be that hard :) |
| 16:05.06 | sag_ich_nicht | it's easier to check for the var :P |
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| 16:06.37 | foxlit | But that requires you to know what the var is |
| 16:06.57 | foxlit | Turns out I taint "i" and "data" |
| 16:08.24 | sag_ich_nicht | foxlit: thus i asked for someone familiar with the problem :P |
| 16:08.44 | foxlit | There are a billion and one ways to break stuff :) |
| 16:08.46 | sag_ich_nicht | because i don't have a clue what could cause it and looking at the raidtab lua doesn't help it either |
| 16:20.19 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366698667&pageNo=6&sid=1#104 wtf. |
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| 16:33.33 | Nom- | sag_ich_nicht: I think that's to do with making it a sticky |
| 16:33.40 | Nom- | I couldn't quite follow the post either... |
| 16:34.56 | Nom- | now, the guy on page 11 makes no sense |
| 16:35.11 | Nom- | I hate to break it to him, but lower TPS = lower DPS for a Paladin |
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| 16:59.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 16:59.56 | sag_ich_nicht | stupid ISP |
| 17:01.07 | Olison | looking for a addon that alters the way the location text in the middle of the screen is displayed |
| 17:06.28 | Nom- | ClearFont2 will change the font |
| 17:07.16 | Kirkburn | (and you can edit it to however you want, font and shadow-wise) |
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| 17:07.28 | Buuyo | mm. is there such a thing as a bar mod that doesn't basically just detach all of the action bars you get with the default ui? =o |
| 17:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay. It's my first time.. I'm kinda new to this. Be gentle, please. |
| 17:11.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ... using lua-created frames |
| 17:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/75298 |
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| 17:11.25 | Olison | Nom-: Kirkburn ah, and if i want to change the fading-time? |
| 17:11.34 | ScytheBlade1 | What's wrong with that last line there? Whenever I see what script is set to OnEvent, it always seems to be nothing |
| 17:11.35 | Kirkburn | ClearFont can't do that :( |
| 17:12.11 | alestane | Anyone here have experience in modifiying tooltips? |
| 17:13.19 | alestane | I want to replace just the last line of a tooltip and it doesn't seem terribly easy. |
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| 17:17.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:07] <Buuyo> mm. is there such a thing as a bar mod that doesn't basically just detach all of the action bars you get with the default ui? =o <--huh? |
| 17:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | bartender bongos trinitybars uuuuuuh flexbar |
| 17:18.02 | Buuyo | I jsut removed ct barmod and my buttons are all there with trinity bars. If I go back to the default blizzard ui they're all ont eh action bar that I get when I shift up and shift down =p |
| 17:18.03 | Tuller | he wants ct bar + bottombar |
| 17:18.27 | Buuyo | They're all sharing something |
| 17:18.40 | Buuyo | I wonder if bongos does it too >_> |
| 17:18.59 | cryogen | thats how action bars generally work, they use the actionids provided by the server |
| 17:19.02 | cryogen | flexbar doesnt |
| 17:19.10 | Buuyo | I'll look in to that one then. |
| 17:19.14 | Buuyo | thanks =) |
| 17:19.37 | cryogen | (why is it a problem, out of interest?) |
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| 17:20.02 | Buuyo | heh unspecified reasons that I really don't want to discuss. =p |
| 17:20.19 | Buuyo | no offense, I just can't tell your or I'd have to kill you =3 |
| 17:20.31 | Buuyo | you* |
| 17:20.32 | cryogen | i see.. |
| 17:21.18 | Buuyo | yeowza. 11 monthns unupdated @_@ |
| 17:21.42 | Buuyo | Well, at least I can take a look at how they did it. =3 |
| 17:23.37 | Kaso | cryogen my money is on "im playing on someone elses account and i dont want to screw up their binding/keysetup. |
| 17:26.50 | Kalroth | Anyone got a suggestion for a replacement of autobar? |
| 17:27.56 | Buuyo | Actually it's because I'm interested to see a working implementation. I ran out of bars in ct barmod because I have little ones scattered all over the screen where they can be found most conveniently. 132 or something buttons on the screen, but on only 10 bars. |
| 17:28.39 | Kaso | fair enough |
| 17:28.40 | Buuyo | I wanted to do neat things like bars that appear based on the correct situation, but I always run out when I try to do that w/ my preferred placement. >_> |
| 17:29.49 | Kaso | Well, with the current secure action-bars you can have locally stored, individual buttons if you so choose, however it becomes very hard to make your bars dynamically appear/disapear/place themselves. |
| 17:30.06 | cryogen | Buuyo: flexbar2 is what you want, not the first one |
| 17:30.09 | cryogen | that is dead since 2.0 |
| 17:30.51 | dreamss | bartender not as good as flexbars? |
| 17:31.04 | Buuyo | heh /fb create button=1-12 <333 |
| 17:31.12 | Buuyo | That's more like it. =o |
| 17:32.04 | dreamss | can export your setup to copy and paste for flexbar? |
| 17:33.01 | Buuyo | hmm |
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| 17:42.08 | Buuyo | hmm |
| 17:42.24 | Buuyo | flexbar2 is kind of neat. It's almost worth using as scaffolding for a grander scheme <3 |
| 17:44.58 | cryogen | talk to cncfanatics, maybe what you want out of it can be done as a module |
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| 18:19.19 | Buuyo | Well, it's not flawless, but flexbar2 is pretty impressive. |
| 18:19.24 | Buuyo | <3 |
| 18:24.33 | cncfanatics | Buuyu, thanks |
| 18:24.37 | cncfanatics | what flaws ? :o |
| 18:25.14 | Buuyo | Well, when buttons go off-screen they behave awkwardly. If you accidentally misjudge an /fb line for isntance |
| 18:25.24 | Buuyo | instance* and the buttons end up off-screen |
| 18:25.27 | cncfanatics | hmmm, they can't go offscreen |
| 18:25.37 | cncfanatics | they should just get to the edge |
| 18:25.43 | Buuyo | Yeah, well it's the dragging afterwards that's weird |
| 18:25.51 | cncfanatics | yea it will |
| 18:26.01 | cncfanatics | u shld just /fb position it if u messed up |
| 18:26.08 | cncfanatics | or just reline em :p |
| 18:26.19 | Buuyo | yeah, thats what I ended up doing =p |
| 18:26.31 | cncfanatics | "flexbar2 is kind of neat. It's almost worth using as scaffolding for a grander scheme <3" thanks :) |
| 18:26.37 | Buuyo | /fb create's group= doesn't seem to be working tho =p |
| 18:26.43 | Buuyo | notwithstanding, /fb group works fine |
| 18:26.53 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.05 | cncfanatics | if u tried to do /fb create group=GroupName it'd complain about the buttons already existing |
| 18:27.08 | Buuyo | yar, well, the docs say you can /fb create button=1-10 group=<group name> |
| 18:27.18 | cncfanatics | it does ? :o |
| 18:27.37 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.38 | cncfanatics | thats in the help |
| 18:27.46 | cncfanatics | where did u read that group= thingy ? |
| 18:27.48 | Buuyo | I suppose it's the wiki that's wrong then. |
| 18:27.52 | Buuyo | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2_slash_command_reference |
| 18:27.54 | cncfanatics | I just checked the wiki |
| 18:28.03 | Buuyo | "/flexbar2 group button=<Buttons> group=<Group name>" |
| 18:28.11 | cncfanatics | ah yea, thats right |
| 18:28.12 | Buuyo | whoops |
| 18:28.16 | cncfanatics | where does it mention create ? |
| 18:28.17 | Buuyo | my bad |
| 18:28.20 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 18:28.23 | Buuyo | lol |
| 18:29.23 | cncfanatics | btw, you're a coder ? |
| 18:29.29 | Buuyo | yeah, a bit of one. |
| 18:29.37 | cncfanatics | I kind of need people to write modules :) |
| 18:29.40 | Buuyo | I'm new to WoW, but I've been using lua for a long time. =p |
| 18:29.51 | cncfanatics | if you're intrested, I can help you writing them at the start |
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| 18:30.30 | Buuyo | Well, honestly I want to see whether I can get flexbar and the wowapi/secure frames to do what I want it to do before I commit to anything. =) |
| 18:30.55 | cncfanatics | what you're trying to do ? :o |
| 18:31.07 | cncfanatics | good chance I can tell you wether its possible or not :) |
| 18:31.10 | Buuyo | Context skill bars, more or less. My buffs appearing below my hud's position depending on who I target. |
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| 18:31.23 | cncfanatics | possible |
| 18:31.26 | Buuyo | and/or related skills |
| 18:31.32 | Buuyo | like decurses =p |
| 18:31.35 | Buuyo | very cool |
| 18:31.44 | cncfanatics | you can use friendly/hostile/no target remaps for that |
| 18:31.53 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn: Ping |
| 18:32.15 | Buuyo | Well, as I understood it the secure action button templates had -harm and such, but it seems a bit messy to me. |
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| 18:32.33 | cncfanatics | flexbar supports it directly |
| 18:32.37 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.47 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.51 | cncfanatics | (the second one :p) |
| 18:33.35 | cncfanatics | hmmm, and I should work on the ability to show/hide buttons on certain states |
| 18:35.25 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I'm going to make /fb show & /fb hide show & hide the buttons only for the current state I think |
| 18:35.27 | Buuyo | The way that bars sort of appeared and disappeared was one of the reasons I liked trinity bars. =p But alas, not enough bar/grouping ability with anything that sticks to the regular action bars and such. One of the reasons I stumbled across flexbar was because of your ability to make unlimited bars/buttons =) |
| 18:36.02 | cncfanatics | would you consider the solution I just gave good ? |
| 18:37.07 | Buuyo | as in, you give it a hypothetical command argument like /fb show button=<buttons> state=stance:1 etc'? |
| 18:37.25 | Buuyo | or just something like that |
| 18:37.47 | Fisker- | cncfanatics oh |
| 18:37.49 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 18:37.51 | Fisker- | oh hi cncfanatics |
| 18:37.51 | cncfanatics | that'd do, and I'll make state= default to the current state, or to all states ? |
| 18:37.57 | cncfanatics | hello Mr Troll :p |
| 18:38.28 | Buuyo | I figure all states would be cool. But another thing that would be cool is if you could define your own custom states more easily in code. =) |
| 18:39.02 | cncfanatics | you can |
| 18:39.07 | Buuyo | notify flexbar that you want some custom state like "Being chased by horde, bring up all the healing and self-buffs" =) |
| 18:39.16 | cncfanatics | blizzard explicitly blocked that$ |
| 18:39.19 | Buuyo | nuts |
| 18:39.37 | cncfanatics | you can remap only on certain set events |
| 18:39.41 | Fisker- | :( cncfanatics |
| 18:39.44 | Fisker- | don't call me a troll |
| 18:39.46 | Fisker- | that makes me hurt |
| 18:39.48 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: pong |
| 18:39.48 | mikma | troll |
| 18:39.51 | cncfanatics | they are, target change, shapeshifts and clicks of buttons |
| 18:39.55 | cncfanatics | also mouseover of buttons |
| 18:40.01 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, still index of / |
| 18:40.11 | cncfanatics | I still have to implement clicks & mouseovers :) |
| 18:40.15 | Thunder_Child | it's not my fault i tell ya |
| 18:40.17 | Buuyo | =) |
| 18:40.18 | Fisker- | mean mean people |
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| 18:40.43 | cncfanatics | if you want to add custom states |
| 18:41.05 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2:GetModule("Attributes"):AddState("stategroup", "statename", "stateconditions"); |
| 18:41.22 | cncfanatics | flexbar will manage combinations of different states on its own |
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| 18:41.39 | cncfanatics | check Attributes.lua for an example, the UpdateStateDriver function |
| 18:41.44 | Buuyo | ok |
| 18:41.46 | cncfanatics | creates states for remaps on target & shapeshift |
| 18:41.51 | cncfanatics | starts at line 60 |
| 18:43.35 | cncfanatics | need any explanation ? |
| 18:43.51 | cncfanatics | you basicly add the states u want with :AddStates and then call :GenerateStateDriver() when ur done |
| 18:44.05 | Buuyo | ahh |
| 18:44.32 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: flush your cache, and try it again |
| 18:44.33 | cncfanatics | then everything is parsed as it should, states are combined, and everything is passed to blizz |
| 18:45.23 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, bingo |
| 18:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | If I have a table of functions, how would I call each function in that table in order? (Loop over the elements and run the functions) |
| 18:46.14 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I'm having problems convincing the server to generate thumbnails, but I'm working on it |
| 18:46.30 | cncfanatics | Buuyo, anything else ? :p |
| 18:46.38 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, well slap it around and show it who's boss |
| 18:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Example code: _test = {}; function _test.a() DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test"); end _test.funcs = {}; tinsert(_test.funcs, _test.a); |
| 18:46.47 | Buuyo | Not right now, no. I have a lot to chew on and a lot of code to go through. |
| 18:46.54 | Buuyo | Thanks a ton. =) |
| 18:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to run every function in _test.funcs |
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| 18:47.46 | cncfanatics | Buuyo, np, I'm on irc most of the time, just ask :) |
| 18:48.54 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, where do i go to upload them? cant seem to find anything |
| 18:53.02 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I recommend, that you download this http://gallery.menalto.com/wiki/Gallery_Remote |
| 18:53.43 | Esamynn | or, if you don't want to download, an uploader, I can provide another tool that will work |
| 18:54.01 | Thunder_Child | na, thats fine |
| 18:56.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Do we have an addon dev guild on the PvP server? |
| 18:56.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought I copied my druid to the PvE... and it seems that my mage is on the PvP. |
| 18:56.51 | ScytheBlade1 | /boggle |
| 18:57.08 | Thunder_Child | not yet i dont think ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:57.19 | ScytheBlade1 | k, just asking |
| 18:57.50 | KarlKFI | i coppied my char thursday night and it's still nto there... |
| 18:57.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Still curious how I'd run functions that are listed in a table though. -.- |
| 18:58.06 | KarlKFI | table.func() |
| 18:58.31 | ScytheBlade1 | _test.a = function blah() do_stuff(); end |
| 18:58.43 | ScytheBlade1 | tinsert(_test.funcs, _test.a); |
| 18:58.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Where _test and _test.funcs are both tables |
| 18:59.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to loop through _test.funcs and execute every function in there |
| 19:00.11 | wereHamster | for _, f in pairs(_test.funcs) do f(); end |
| 19:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, must just be a stupid syntax problem |
| 19:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | /run for _, f in pairs(_test.funcs) do f(); end; |
| 19:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, that works |
| 19:01.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 19:02.10 | cncfanatics | note that they will be run in semi-random order |
| 19:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd use ipairs() if I wanted that |
| 19:02.25 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's fine in this case |
| 19:03.21 | cncfanatics | ur gonna ipairs through a dictionary, how u gonna do that lol ? |
| 19:03.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I probably can't, and I'm probably just misunderstanding some basic concepts |
| 19:03.55 | ScytheBlade1 | But for this, it's all good |
| 19:11.24 | Thunder_Child | that program doesnt like me Esamynn |
| 19:11.37 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I saw that in the log, just a sec |
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| 19:11.42 | Esamynn | something strange is going on |
| 19:13.41 | Esamynn | grrr |
| 19:16.22 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: does it work now? |
| 19:16.28 | Thunder_Child | let me try |
| 19:16.52 | Thunder_Child | no, still cant create an album |
| 19:17.00 | Esamynn | ok, nope, wtf, it looks like a file is missing, but it worked last night... |
| 19:17.32 | Thunder_Child | eh, no one can make a "thats what she said" joke on that comment |
| 19:19.23 | Cairenn | GOOD shot of the Illidan statue, Esamynn |
| 19:20.05 | KarlKFI | there were always too many people around when i tried to get a good shot |
| 19:20.15 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: what's really annoying is that my laptop where I hate remote installed has decided to revert back to the wrong ip addres in it's dns address |
| 19:20.24 | Esamynn | s/hate/have/ |
| 19:20.44 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, are you sure hate wasnt correct? |
| 19:20.53 | Esamynn | :P |
| 19:20.58 | KarlKFI | paladins are OP in the beginning of the game... tyring to level to see my tallents, but i haven't had to drink or eat once |
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| 19:23.37 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, do you have a size limit for pics? |
| 19:24.00 | Esamynn | no, but don't abuse it |
| 19:24.01 | Cairenn | Esamynn: hehehe, none from Disney, hey? |
| 19:24.08 | Thunder_Child | since i usualy take them in raw they can turn out quite big |
| 19:24.08 | Esamynn | Cairenn: not yet |
| 19:24.17 | Esamynn | I'm trying to make the server work correctly atm |
| 19:24.18 | Thunder_Child | well give me a "not to go over" |
| 19:24.28 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: raw is fine, and encouraged |
| 19:24.33 | Cairenn | I wasn't complaining, just commenting :) |
| 19:24.55 | Thunder_Child | raw is also 10mb per pic |
| 19:25.04 | Esamynn | .... |
| 19:25.06 | Esamynn | wtf |
| 19:25.09 | Esamynn | what format? |
| 19:25.12 | Thunder_Child | raw |
| 19:25.21 | Thunder_Child | cr2 specificly |
| 19:25.25 | Esamynn | do they come off your camera in that format? |
| 19:25.56 | Thunder_Child | they do when i set it to, raw allows for a greater degree of controll post editing |
| 19:26.03 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 19:26.15 | Cairenn | lol, Private Ownusohard! Forgot about that |
| 19:26.15 | Esamynn | ok, compress them, jpeg high quality, is fine |
| 19:26.17 | Thunder_Child | which i need since i take crappy pics |
| 19:26.24 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 19:29.04 | Esamynn | why the hell won't the server generate thumbnails |
| 19:29.42 | cncfanatics | Buuyo, damn you, you made me code again and now I can't watch my movie :p |
| 19:30.26 | zenzelezz | there's a fine line between code and porn |
| 19:30.46 | cncfanatics | it wasn't porn :p |
| 19:30.53 | zenzelezz | of course it wasn't |
| 19:31.47 | zenzelezz | I swear our hunters got less than 50% of the Misidrections right today |
| 19:34.22 | Thunder_Child | my computer seems to have a slight issue running wow and rendering in PS3 at the same time |
| 19:34.36 | Thunder_Child | issues* |
| 19:35.28 | Esamynn | omg, a thumbnail, it's like a miracle |
| 19:35.35 | Esamynn | now, why does only one pictures have one |
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| 19:37.18 | Thunder_Child | because that picture is better than the rest obviously |
| 19:38.16 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: can you add an album using your web browser? |
| 19:38.33 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, no i have no options for that |
| 19:38.41 | Esamynn | oh |
| 19:40.04 | Esamynn | how about now? |
| 19:40.33 | Thunder_Child | ya, have the options, trying |
| 19:42.26 | Thunder_Child | hmm...ok, the remote works now, but i have access to your album |
| 19:42.47 | Esamynn | yah, the way the permissions work, you are allowed to add to it atm |
| 19:43.10 | Esamynn | I'm not going to bother making them more restrictive |
| 19:43.49 | Thunder_Child | ya, besides why would i want to give you credit for my bad pictures |
| 19:44.10 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: do you think it makes sense to keep ppl's photo's seperate, or should we just have sub-albums for each thing and mix people pictures? |
| 19:44.39 | Thunder_Child | sub |
| 19:44.54 | Thunder_Child | that way you dont have to look through many diff albums to see all the pictures |
| 19:45.13 | Thunder_Child | just set up a resonable number of different sub topics |
| 19:45.21 | Thunder_Child | so people can fit them in properly |
| 19:45.32 | Esamynn | ok |
| 19:45.36 | Thunder_Child | one that has it's own top ofc is Cairenn |
| 19:45.47 | Thunder_Child | s/top/topic/ |
| 19:45.53 | Cairenn | "all ui panel pics" "all opening ceremony pics" etc |
| 19:45.55 | Cairenn | no |
| 19:46.04 | Thunder_Child | yes, or we will have a mutiney |
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| 19:47.40 | Esamynn | ok, let me do some re-arrangement then |
| 19:48.00 | Thunder_Child | ok, i got rid of mine |
| 19:48.10 | Cairenn | btw, apologies for the delay on mod approval at WoWI, I haven't been able to get to the site since 10pm-ish last night and it may be anywhere from 24-72 hrs before it gets resolved, so there is one less person able to approve mods atm |
| 19:49.57 | Esamynn | ok, give me some categories |
| 19:50.24 | Esamynn | I have Pre-BlizzCon, Day 1 And Day 2 atm, we can put stuff underthose, or create new ones |
| 19:50.52 | Cairenn | each panel, the different demo areas, and a "various" for things like the Illidan statue? |
| 19:51.20 | Thunder_Child | hmm..under the days or on their own... |
| 19:51.23 | Cairenn | mine is right here |
| 19:51.39 | Thunder_Child | misc should be on it's own i think |
| 19:51.59 | Cairenn | aye, "various" "misc" etc |
| 19:53.00 | zenzelezz | I think you should focus first on the Cairenn category |
| 19:53.06 | Cairenn | no |
| 19:53.07 | Thunder_Child | see |
| 19:53.11 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, a little curiousity from my part, when WotLK comes out, will WOWI give out beta invs again ? |
| 19:53.11 | Thunder_Child | it's not me |
| 19:53.31 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: certainly hope so :) |
| 19:53.45 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, great :) |
| 19:54.13 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: no promises, obviously - haven't heard a thing about WotLK beta yet, so ... |
| 19:54.39 | cncfanatics | I wonder when it'll be |
| 19:54.44 | cncfanatics | and I damn hope I'll be in the closed beta :p |
| 19:55.50 | Thunder_Child | heh Esamynn, i do belive you are screwing with it |
| 19:56.54 | Thunder_Child | oh, and are we going to get rid of the cart thing? seems kinda tacky |
| 19:57.25 | Thunder_Child | unless you plan on selling them |
| 19:58.04 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: the cart thing is there to allow bulk downloads |
| 19:58.43 | Thunder_Child | ooo, handy |
| 20:00.15 | Esamynn | ok, now I need to make my remote work, because that is the easiest way to create new albums |
| 20:00.39 | Esamynn | I think I'll break it down by day |
| 20:00.59 | Esamynn | grrr |
| 20:01.14 | Esamynn | stupid gallery is not working right, editing albums is screwed up :( |
| 20:03.06 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, what extensions can it handle? |
| 20:04.04 | Thunder_Child | nvm, i'll look it up |
| 20:08.58 | Esamynn | @#^@#$%^##$^@ |
| 20:09.14 | Esamynn | why the hell is my laptop still pointing the url to the wrong addy :( |
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| 20:09.42 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.31 | cncfanatics | grrr, WHY is SecureStateHeader_TestChildVisibility LOCAL ? |
| 20:10.33 | cncfanatics | that just plain sucks |
| 20:10.48 | Thunder_Child | hey Guillotine |
| 20:11.31 | cncfanatics | anyone, why is SecureStateHeader_TestChildVisibility not called when changing showstates or hidestates ? |
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| 20:13.03 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, think it would be reasonable to request to slouken that SecureStateHeader_TestChildVisibility gets called when showstates/hidestates changes ? |
| 20:13.48 | Cairenn | asking ;) |
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| 20:14.42 | cncfanatics | u got him on irc or what ? :p |
| 20:14.49 | Cairenn | (4:14:17 PM) Slouken: No idea, you'd have to ask Iriel |
| 20:14.54 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 20:14.58 | cncfanatics | how handy |
| 20:15.51 | cncfanatics | when does Iriel normaly login ? :) |
| 20:16.11 | Cairenn | random |
| 20:16.39 | cncfanatics | damn, I'll probably be off then, soon bedtime here |
| 20:16.44 | cncfanatics | would you mind asking for me ? |
| 20:16.46 | JoshBorke | more often than slouken |
| 20:16.50 | Thunder_Child | you can leave him a bot msg |
| 20:16.59 | JoshBorke | or a memoserv message |
| 20:17.03 | Thunder_Child | or try anyways...never seems to work for me |
| 20:17.08 | JoshBorke | btw Cairenn, you ever get in touch with an irc oper? |
| 20:17.11 | Mike-N-Go | I am trying to inislise the addon Tattle, an error says, "No data. Your battlegroup's addon must be present, copy it from the Tattle folder yourself or run the included batch or shell file." I am on a Mac, so .bats don't work, any insight on how to do this? |
| 20:17.19 | Kaydeethree | woo hoo, missing diplomat chain continues... http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Disturbing_Development |
| 20:17.25 | Kaydeethree | adding more to the wiki as I complete quests |
| 20:18.20 | bleeter | Kaydeethree: u r a disturbing development :P |
| 20:18.41 | wereHamster | Mike-N-Go, the shell script should work though |
| 20:19.28 | Mike-N-Go | I have minimalistic experience with shell scripts and the Terminal. |
| 20:19.51 | Mike-N-Go | cd into the directory and run tattlelod.sh? |
| 20:20.03 | wereHamster | ./tattlelod.sh |
| 20:21.42 | bleeter | so 2.3 would appear to be vulnerable to occasional explosions, eh? |
| 20:21.55 | bleeter | I ain't had a chance to play on it at all over the weekend :( |
| 20:22.10 | Mike-N-Go | wereHamster: I don't understand what you mean. |
| 20:22.21 | Kaydeethree | pve's been broken all weekend, still no successful character copies |
| 20:22.23 | wereHamster | cd into the directory and run ./tattlelod.sh |
| 20:22.38 | Kaydeethree | pvp's thus been crashing under the load of all of the millions of people trying to screw around with the new content |
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| 20:23.01 | bleeter | oh, of course... that reason for PvP failing hadn't ocurred to me |
| 20:23.07 | Mike-N-Go | There we go, it has ran. |
| 20:23.27 | bleeter | wereHamster: you up for a challenge at all? |
| 20:23.35 | wereHamster | bleeter, ? |
| 20:23.47 | bleeter | wereHamster: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8774 |
| 20:24.12 | Thunder_Child | Kaydeethree, thats actually a good thing, as i am sure it teaches blizz quite alot |
| 20:25.32 | Mike-N-Go | Where does one update the database of Tattle? |
| 20:26.58 | Thunder_Child | you know thats rather impressive i think...i managed to save a 10mb raw file into a 45mb png file... |
| 20:27.39 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know what this means? I have loaed a few dozen addons, and now a window pops up with "Invalid money type: ITEMDB" |
| 20:28.44 | wereHamster | bleeter, don't know.. seems like an old bug.. |
| 20:30.03 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: ok, there's the beginnings of friday, comments? |
| 20:30.45 | Thunder_Child | "Album: Cocktails & Contests" |
| 20:31.56 | bleeter | wereHamster: yeah, but it don't seem to be going away... I had a brief look last night and my brain exploded. I've got Uni assignments and exams happening, so can't really afford time to learn what's meant to be going on and maybe fix it. But it'd be nice, if Wine's going 1.00 soon-ish, to have that fixme fixed. |
| 20:32.19 | Thunder_Child | looks good, think we can get a thumbnail of the schedule for it's corisponding day? |
| 20:32.44 | Esamynn | I could scan my schedule sheet |
| 20:34.40 | Thunder_Child | ffs saving it as a tiff makes it even bigger than the png |
| 20:34.47 | Thunder_Child | tif* |
| 20:34.54 | Thunder_Child | now the damn thing is 57.6 mb |
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| 20:45.03 | Thunder_Child | "(12:26:14) (+Esamynn) ok, compress them, jpeg high quality, is fine" mine come out at about 10mb none the less |
| 20:45.15 | Esamynn | seriously>? |
| 20:45.20 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 20:45.42 | Esamynn | that seems....odd |
| 20:46.00 | Thunder_Child | cr2 (what i take them in) is cannons propriatery compressed raw files |
| 20:49.30 | Thunder_Child | that and images size is "3888 x 2592" |
| 20:49.47 | Esamynn | Cairenn: do you remember what panel that "owsusohard" joke was in, was that the expansion demo panel in the early afternoon? |
| 20:50.19 | Cairenn | yeah - Hail to the King was the title you had on it |
| 20:50.47 | Esamynn | ok, I thought so, wasn't sure if that was part of the opening ceremony or not, but didn't think so |
| 20:52.06 | Thunder_Child | and if we have pics for each pannel's opening slide we can use that as thumbnail headers for the categorys |
| 20:53.07 | Esamynn | indeed |
| 20:53.10 | Esamynn | I have some of those |
| 20:57.36 | Thunder_Child | ok, there we go, got it down to 3mb |
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| 20:58.03 | Thunder_Child | ~whalestab |Jelly| |
| 20:58.04 | purl | ACTION stabs |Jelly| with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
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| 21:06.20 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: ok, i've got most of the sub-albums we'll need for the blizzcon stuff itself |
| 21:06.24 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, still gonna need a generic misc, also i think the concert should have it's own |
| 21:07.21 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn: under saturday "Album: WoW Lore & Quests" |
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| 21:15.27 | Thunder_Child | heh, by the time 2.3 rolls out i will have 5 chars at 20 and 1 at 32 |
| 21:16.06 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 21:20.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Character copies are up |
| 21:20.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I just managed to copy one to the PvP server too |
| 21:20.33 | Thunder_Child | welcome |
| 21:20.43 | KarlKFI | immediate transfers? |
| 21:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I should say that you can stick them in the queue. |
| 21:21.07 | KarlKFI | Average Wait Time: 4 days |
| 21:21.08 | Thunder_Child | err...not that i made the transfer go through, it was a "welcome to the pvp server" |
| 21:21.48 | KarlKFI | i transfered 2, one on thursday night and another last night and have yet to see them on my accounts |
| 21:22.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I already have one on my account |
| 21:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Though PvE copies still seem broke |
| 21:23.07 | KarlKFI | huh, interesting that only year old account can use the ptr |
| 21:23.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's out of date |
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| 21:29.25 | cncfanatics | g'night ppl |
| 21:31.00 | Thunder_Child | night ncn |
| 21:31.03 | Thunder_Child | err.. cncfanatics |
| 21:31.12 | Thunder_Child | oh ya, i fail |
| 21:35.20 | Esamynn | Rare Species, Caught on Flim!: http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org/main.php/v/Friday/Misc/ |
| 21:36.02 | Thunder_Child | your putting a misc under each day? |
| 21:36.07 | Esamynn | yes |
| 21:36.12 | Esamynn | well |
| 21:36.23 | Esamynn | under Fri and Sat at least |
| 21:36.27 | Thunder_Child | no top lvl generic misc? |
| 21:36.41 | KarlKFI | http://thottbot.com/s897 |
| 21:37.06 | Esamynn | lol |
| 21:37.34 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: if you think you have stuff that should be in one, feel free to create it |
| 21:37.52 | Thunder_Child | well i have some pics from disneys fireworks |
| 21:38.06 | Thunder_Child | well more like 100 but i wasnt going to put all of them up |
| 21:38.15 | Esamynn | oh |
| 21:38.17 | Thunder_Child | wasnt on sunday |
| 21:38.23 | Esamynn | right, nm |
| 21:38.31 | Esamynn | clued in, right after I said it :/ |
| 21:38.40 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 21:38.41 | Esamynn | sure |
| 21:38.43 | Esamynn | that's fine |
| 21:39.09 | Esamynn | only difference is that you & admins will be able to edit that album |
| 21:39.20 | Esamynn | instead of just admins |
| 21:39.21 | Thunder_Child | and i am also (if i can) going to change your illidan pic to an album since i have some of him as well |
| 21:39.33 | Cairenn | lol Esamynn, I didn't think anyone had gotten a shot of me in the skirt |
| 21:41.04 | Thunder_Child | do quivers/ammo puches only hold their respective ammo types? |
| 21:41.10 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: sure, I'll move mind after you create it |
| 21:41.13 | Thunder_Child | pouches* |
| 21:41.16 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 21:41.26 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 21:42.20 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, ok, created |
| 21:43.21 | Thunder_Child | i now have 173 pic to touch up before posting |
| 21:43.25 | Thunder_Child | pic's* |
| 21:43.57 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 21:46.07 | Thunder_Child | i fell sorry for all of you guys wating in line for your tickets |
| 21:46.14 | Thunder_Child | feel* |
| 21:47.33 | Adys | Anyone who has been in Zul'Aman or has done new quests on the PTR 2.3 with 5 mins spare? |
| 21:47.47 | Kaydeethree | hm? |
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| 21:52.16 | Esamynn | BlizzCon 2007 Photo Gallery: http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org/ |
| 21:52.17 | Esamynn | Talk to MentalPower or I for a user if you have pictures to upload |
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| 22:18.04 | KarlKFI | hmm, what happened to the MiniMapMeetingStoneFrame |
| 22:20.20 | Esamynn | probably died |
| 22:21.27 | KarlKFI | it's anchored and has size but GetCenter() returns nil |
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| 22:27.13 | KarlKFI | it's anchored to MiniMapTrackingFrame |
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| 22:27.23 | KarlKFI | which doesn't exist |
| 22:27.27 | KarlKFI | anymore |
| 22:32.27 | Esamynn | lol |
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| 22:40.07 | mikma | is there somewhere the undocumented 2.3 changes? |
| 22:40.35 | Thunder_Child | wowtest folder? |
| 22:42.11 | mikma | usually there's documented, not undocumented :P |
| 22:44.25 | Thunder_Child | well it has to be listed in the actual lua files themselvs no? |
| 22:48.01 | beatnix | hey guys i want to make an addon and i am looking at the blizzard supplied 'hello world' sample. I copied blizzards own files into my addons dir and it shows up in the list but no message is displayed. what am i doing wrong? |
| 22:48.27 | KarlKFI | they broke message() |
| 22:48.42 | beatnix | really? |
| 22:48.48 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 22:48.49 | beatnix | so their own supplied sample doesnt work...awesome |
| 22:48.59 | KarlKFI | they're fixing for 2.3 i think |
| 22:49.21 | KarlKFI | try DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hello World") |
| 22:49.48 | beatnix | thanks |
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| 22:50.00 | Kaso | Wait, was message() really broken? or are we talking about the "message() is disabled when errors are disabled" thing? |
| 22:50.00 | beatnix | i felt so pathetic when i failed at hello world lol |
| 22:50.27 | KarlKFI | i dont remember kaso, i think it's actually broken |
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| 23:11.45 | Cairenn | art3mis: back, logging in, send me a tell |
| 23:11.57 | mikma | hmmm |
| 23:12.08 | mikma | now that you mentioned, message() is "disabled" if you have disabled lua errors |
| 23:12.17 | mikma | i noticed the same some time ago |
| 23:12.55 | Iriel | Until 2.3 |
| 23:13.28 | mikma | what happens then? :) |
| 23:13.42 | Iriel | Then explcit calls to message always show up |
| 23:13.53 | Iriel | it's just the error handler that wont call it if you have lua errors disabled |
| 23:14.14 | mikma | that's nice one |
| 23:16.07 | Kaso | its not like anyone really uses message() though |
| 23:16.17 | Kaso | other than the hello world type things |
| 23:16.44 | Shirik | Yeah but that's the worst part |
| 23:16.48 | Shirik | is that the hello world example fails |
| 23:17.04 | foxlit | It's nice when you need to test something and no other addons are there to provide a dump |
| 23:17.13 | Shirik | *cough* devtools |
| 23:17.45 | foxlit | And if someone is not running devtools? |
| 23:17.55 | Shirik | Then they should be melted in a firey pit |
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| 23:20.29 | Iriel | I think that may be a bit strong |
| 23:20.47 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, make sure you get an account from Esamynn or MentalPower, we are sticking our pics up at http://blizzcon2007.norganna.org |
| 23:22.19 | Sixen | Hm? |
| 23:22.26 | Sixen | I've got a decent amount of pics I still need to upload :/ |
| 23:23.20 | Thunder_Child | then poke one of them |
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| 23:26.24 | Coldfury | hey guys, any1 can help me with this? I'm getting an error "attempt to index global 'stats1'(a nil value)" on line 174. Ive look carefully and can't seem to find where's the bug http://coldfury.pastey.net/75314 |
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| 23:27.36 | Shirik | First things first Coldfury |
| 23:27.42 | Shirik | Learn to use your dash key. |
| 23:27.51 | Shirik | Very important |
| 23:28.05 | Iriel | It probably means that f:Setup() isn't called before f:Update() |
| 23:28.20 | Shirik | and yeah |
| 23:28.28 | Iriel | Since F:Update is called every frame, and setup isn't called until potentially a while later |
| 23:28.55 | Shirik | furthermore |
| 23:29.02 | Shirik | I beg that you do not use those names as globals |
| 23:29.07 | Iriel | also, you want to be careful, most of your variables (stats1, states2, etc) are global, not local |
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| 23:30.23 | Coldfury | well im my first real attemp at lua so there still a lot to improve on hehe. but f:Setup is called when player_login, then f:setup call f:update.. |
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| 23:31.06 | Coldfury | whats the difference between globals and local? |
| 23:31.28 | Kaso | theres a lovely tutorial on scope on wowwiki |
| 23:31.28 | Coldfury | global = whole addon can access them, local = only that function can access them? |
| 23:31.52 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_variable_scoping |
| 23:31.58 | Thunder_Child | hah, mental image of Iriel's & Shirik's brain after that question |
| 23:32.10 | Iriel | global == all addons, everywhere can access them (also that they overwrite any other global of the same name) |
| 23:32.20 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: ? |
| 23:32.24 | Coldfury | oh i see |
| 23:32.37 | Kaso | Technically globals are global to the entire lua engine, whereas locals are resricted to that particular code block, be that a lua file, a function or a for end block |
| 23:32.50 | Thunder_Child | remeber that onld comercial, "this is your brain, this is your brain on drugs"? |
| 23:32.56 | Kaso | but yeh read the wowwiki page i linked, very good |
| 23:32.58 | Thunder_Child | old* remember* |
| 23:32.59 | Shirik | woot |
| 23:33.03 | Shirik | Kaso called my page "very good" ^^ |
| 23:33.17 | Kaso | Heh! i didnt even remeber who wrote it |
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| 23:35.30 | MentalPower | ~pil |
| 23:35.31 | purl | [pil] Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 23:35.34 | MentalPower | Coldfury: ^^^^ |
| 23:37.35 | Shirik | Now that I reread it |
| 23:37.38 | Shirik | I think that page is horrible >< |
| 23:37.47 | Shirik | But.... I might touch it up later |
| 23:38.15 | Coldfury | yeah i already know that page, thanks mental :) |
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| 23:55.23 | dreamss | what addon would u guys recomend for moving the blizz frames? |
| 23:55.57 | MentalPower | FluidFrames for me |
| 23:56.18 | Shirik | Anything that is not MoveAnything |
| 23:56.35 | dreamss | [16:55] <fn'Pkekyo> dreamss: first thing that comes to mind is MoveAnything |
| 23:56.36 | dreamss | heh |
| 23:56.47 | Shirik | That thing is a wrecking ball of taint |
| 23:56.52 | Shirik | to quote someone else, I forget who |
| 23:56.58 | Shirik | but it's true |
| 23:57.24 | dreamss | FluidFrames then |
