| 00:00.51 | JoshBorke | website for seaprint? |
| 00:01.11 | AnduinLothar | take it out of the Sea folder |
| 00:02.28 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 00:02.38 | Wobwork | yay sag_ich_nicht |
| 00:02.41 | JoshBorke | don't see SeaPrint in the Sea.zip on cosmosui.org |
| 00:02.41 | AnduinLothar | http://www.cosmosui.org/addons.php?info=Sea |
| 00:02.57 | JoshBorke | oh wait, i'm dumb |
| 00:03.01 | AnduinLothar | it's in the libs folder |
| 00:03.11 | Wobwork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366553374&sid=1 |
| 00:03.17 | JoshBorke | aye, found it =D |
| 00:03.19 | Wobwork | Threat reduction for pallies =) |
| 00:03.31 | AnduinLothar | =D |
| 00:04.04 | AnduinLothar | wow 30% |
| 00:04.30 | JoshBorke | wmhat's the command to bring it up again? |
| 00:04.58 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.04 | JoshBorke | that fixed it |
| 00:05.18 | AnduinLothar | k, i'll reupload |
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| 00:06.16 | sixen-debug | =) |
| 00:06.45 | Sixen | =) |
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| 00:20.01 | Kaydeethree | ahaha, now that I've finally got the beer goggles: best item ever |
| 00:23.26 | Wobwork | It reminds me slightly of an eyepatch I once coded for a MUD |
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| 00:23.57 | Wobwork | When you wore it, it set your teminal columns to half |
| 00:24.05 | Wobwork | s/tem/term/ |
| 00:39.10 | Cidan | ahaha |
| 00:39.14 | Cidan | that's awesome Wobwork |
| 00:39.23 | Cidan | I'm developing a MUD as a side project |
| 00:39.29 | Cidan | runs in Java and uses lua for events |
| 00:39.50 | Cidan | events/signals are called on every command input |
| 00:39.54 | Cidan | and you can hook them |
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| 00:42.30 | Wobwork | Sounds cool =) |
| 00:45.41 | Cidan | ooookay, now have a shiny new Ubuntu desktop |
| 00:45.50 | JoshBorke | yay! grats |
| 00:45.51 | Cidan | now let's see if I can make it not crap out |
| 00:46.00 | Cidan | yeah, only took me 5 hours |
| 00:46.04 | Cidan | also, xfs is crap |
| 00:46.07 | Cidan | it's full of fail |
| 00:46.27 | Cidan | used jfs, boom, started right up |
| 00:46.55 | Cidan | considered using reiser, but eh |
| 00:47.04 | Cidan | Not too keen on using the FS of Death. |
| 00:47.07 | Cidan | :D |
| 00:47.30 | JoshBorke | why not ext3? |
| 00:47.33 | Cidan | er |
| 00:47.36 | Cidan | slow as hell? |
| 00:47.45 | JoshBorke | because you'll actually notice? |
| 00:48.03 | Cidan | totally. |
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| 00:50.56 | mikma | hmmrph |
| 00:51.06 | mikma | not likely |
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| 01:21.46 | Lin | hi there. |
| 01:22.18 | Lin | i can run WoW under linux.. but no sound. I have to sound cards any ideas? |
| 01:22.58 | Kaydeethree | open up the /path/to/wow/Logs/SESound.log file. what's the error message you're getting? |
| 01:24.00 | Lin | NOTICE: You are using a very high number of channels |
| 01:24.25 | Kaydeethree | do you see a "Game Sound is ready." line? |
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| 01:25.24 | Kaydeethree | easier solution, go to http://wowi.pastey.net and paste the whole thing there |
| 01:25.52 | Guillotine | yet another shartuul event with no badge :( |
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| 01:27.09 | Lin | Kaydeethree: no |
| 01:27.11 | Wobwork | The eye of Guillotine focuses INTENTLY! |
| 01:27.11 | foxlit | Hm, question |
| 01:27.24 | Guillotine | btw, thanks all that bumped my post about UnitLevel("player")! Slouken posted that he's fixing it :D |
| 01:27.25 | foxlit | StatusBar:SetMinMaxValues(0,2) now procs OnValueChanged? |
| 01:27.32 | Guillotine | Wobin: lol |
| 01:27.39 | foxlit | whereas it wouldn't previously, iirc |
| 01:27.47 | Guillotine | I made SO many mistakes this time. completely forgot to start destroying the shield |
| 01:27.51 | Lin | how can I reset all configs |
| 01:27.51 | Wobwork | I've alway wondered why that was a zone wide raidwarning |
| 01:27.56 | Guillotine | ended up using 6 charged focuses >< |
| 01:27.58 | Kaydeethree | for wow or wine? |
| 01:28.05 | Lin | wow |
| 01:28.17 | foxlit | I'll have to take a look at it to be sure, but that's an early headsup |
| 01:28.23 | Kaydeethree | exit out of wow. get to your World of Warcraft directory. delete your WTF folder |
| 01:28.24 | Wobwork | Guillotine: What's the reward for that event? |
| 01:28.34 | Kaydeethree | tangential question, are you using alsa or oss in wine? |
| 01:28.39 | Wobwork | Kaydeethree: hehe, you sound like Blizzard tech support =) |
| 01:28.48 | Lunessa | Lin: That will wipe all macros and settings for WoW entirely. |
| 01:29.05 | Lin | my macros? |
| 01:29.07 | Lin | no\ |
| 01:29.21 | Kaydeethree | then just delete the Config.wtf file in your WTF folder |
| 01:29.29 | Lin | ok |
| 01:29.32 | Guillotine | Wobwork: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23230 |
| 01:29.33 | Wobwork | I still get horrible scratchy explosions when I start WoW =( |
| 01:29.53 | Guillotine | I've gotten sword, axe, and ring in my times trying it |
| 01:30.19 | Wobwork | I want the cloak =) |
| 01:30.28 | Wobwork | I've had a couple of runes |
| 01:30.32 | Wobwork | but I've never bothered trying the event |
| 01:35.46 | Lin | to run wow in wine should I run Launcher or WoW.exe? |
| 01:36.03 | Kaydeethree | either way works |
| 01:36.13 | Kaydeethree | I use the launcher, but have it set to not show at the login screen |
| 01:37.01 | Lin | isnt launching here, it launch launcher then it closes and froze screen. I can alt tab but wow didn't load |
| 01:37.24 | Kaydeethree | try starting it from a terminal |
| 01:37.36 | Lin | im doing this |
| 01:38.34 | JoshBorke | who's doing this?! I'M DOING THIS?! |
| 01:38.45 | Kaydeethree | I use a shell script to start wow that way if I need to figure out what's going wrong it's as simple as running the command "wow". http://wowi.pastey.net/75406 is the file ~/bin/wow |
| 01:39.35 | Lin | checking out |
| 01:39.46 | Lin | but there is no problem in alt-tab while running right? |
| 01:40.19 | Kaydeethree | that script starts wow in wine's virtual desktop. as long as the resolution smaller than what your desktop runs at you can just select another window normally |
| 01:40.31 | Lunessa | Josh this: is depreciated, please use more modern syntax |
| 01:40.41 | Kaydeethree | s/resolution/resolution is/ |
| 01:40.44 | Lunessa | :P |
| 01:40.56 | JoshBorke | ~lart Lunessa |
| 01:40.56 | purl | strangles Lunessa with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 01:41.45 | Lunessa | Ah, geek humor. A last refuge for the truly nerdy. |
| 01:42.35 | Cidan | Going to switchoh man |
| 01:42.41 | Cidan | er, add a comma there |
| 01:42.42 | Cidan | :P |
| 01:42.49 | Cidan | Going to switch to Ubuntu full time I think |
| 01:42.51 | Cidan | no more Windows |
| 01:42.56 | Cidan | 7.10 is nice when you get it working |
| 01:43.00 | Cidan | very slick, fast |
| 01:44.43 | Kaydeethree | ooh, an event on the ptrs at a52 |
| 01:44.59 | Kaydeethree | they're spawning bosses at the arena vendor in an attempt to clear out the area |
| 01:45.07 | Cidan | Kaydeethree: know of any ways to convert from NTFS to JFS, etc? |
| 01:45.26 | Cidan | I want to dump windows at this point |
| 01:45.26 | Cidan | :D |
| 01:45.37 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:45.40 | Kaydeethree | create a jfs partition larger than the ntfs partition you have using any available free space. copy. delete the ntfs partition |
| 01:45.49 | Cidan | Yeah, that's not possible |
| 01:45.53 | Cidan | 400 gigs of data |
| 01:45.54 | Cidan | :P |
| 01:45.57 | JoshBorke | you can't |
| 01:46.03 | Cidan | then I'll have to do it in parts |
| 01:46.04 | JoshBorke | buy another hdd |
| 01:46.13 | Cidan | create a partition, move, resize, move, resize |
| 01:46.18 | Cidan | 'til I have nothing but JFS left |
| 01:46.36 | JoshBorke | resize is dangerous |
| 01:46.43 | Cidan | not anymore |
| 01:46.51 | Cidan | 7.10 has naitve support |
| 01:46.52 | cogwheel | transporter to toshley's 4tw |
| 01:46.55 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:47.06 | Kaydeethree | damn you, engi |
| 01:47.18 | Kaydeethree | or not |
| 01:47.23 | Kaydeethree | "Transfer aborted: Instance not found |
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| 01:48.14 | Kaydeethree | good thing I logged out in dustwallow on the pvp server |
| 01:48.32 | cogwheel | :| |
| 01:49.31 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.45 | Kaydeethree | fly, fly faster you cursed onyx netherdrake! fly! |
| 01:50.56 | cogwheel | oh... pvp server... |
| 01:51.04 | Corrodias | instance not found? |
| 01:51.08 | Corrodias | what the heck does that mean? |
| 01:51.13 | Kaydeethree | the world server was offline |
| 01:51.26 | cogwheel | he couldn't zone from kalimdor to outland |
| 01:51.30 | Kaydeethree | or the instance servers are offline, depending on which way you're going |
| 01:53.42 | Kaydeethree | lmao. never noticed that they added flying guards to a52. mini-zeps: "Area 52 Death Machine" |
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| 01:56.16 | Kaydeethree | oh wow, that's something I haven't seen in a while... non-textured terrain shortly before a server d/c |
| 02:12.17 | cogwheel | huh. |
| 02:12.22 | cogwheel | that worked out pretty well... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&postId=23663528922&sid=1#500 |
| 02:16.54 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 02:16.56 | Shirik|Ecole | nice cogwheel |
| 02:17.22 | Shirik|Ecole | why the heck do they have that stupid 500 post limit anyway |
| 02:17.36 | Shirik|Ecole | you know, for all the things Blizzard's done right, their forum software is absolutely awful, tbph |
| 02:17.55 | cogwheel | /agree |
| 02:18.18 | Kaydeethree | it can get raised, though... look at the 0.999~ = 1 poll |
| 02:18.42 | cogwheel | I think blue posts (where the thread was started by them) are immune |
| 02:18.54 | cogwheel | not sure if they can grant immunity though |
| 02:19.02 | Kaydeethree | hell, my original "getting on the test realm" guide got its thread cap raised |
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| 02:19.15 | cogwheel | I don't think slouken even knows how to control the order of the stickies though >< |
| 02:19.39 | cogwheel | Kaydeethree: there ya go |
| 02:29.42 | Lunessa | Anyone have a web host company they particularly like? |
| 02:30.08 | Cidan | www.westhost.com |
| 02:30.22 | AnduinLothar | that's nice and cheep |
| 02:30.42 | Cidan | been usin' em for a long time |
| 02:30.44 | Cidan | <3 them |
| 02:30.50 | Cidan | good support too |
| 02:31.01 | Lunessa | Thanks for the link Cidan |
| 02:31.10 | Cidan | NEVER |
| 02:31.11 | Cidan | DIE |
| 02:31.12 | Cidan | I mean |
| 02:31.13 | Cidan | np |
| 02:31.42 | Cidan | ... |
| 02:31.48 | Cidan | there we go |
| 02:31.49 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:31.56 | Cidan | it wasn't printing the second page of my paper |
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| 02:32.22 | Cidan | linux + printing = scarry |
| 02:32.34 | Cidan | scary |
| 02:32.35 | Cidan | :D |
| 02:33.06 | cogwheel | srsly |
| 02:33.19 | cogwheel | especially with printers connected via ethernet |
| 02:33.27 | Cidan | yeah, don't get me started |
| 02:33.35 | Cidan | I tried to setup CUPS and network print via samba |
| 02:33.41 | Cidan | I spent like 2 days on it before I gave up |
| 02:33.55 | Cidan | local printing was great, added it to samba no problem |
| 02:34.12 | Cidan | but finding non-kernal mode drivers was stupid hard for this printer |
| 02:34.15 | Cidan | it's an older one, so eh |
| 02:36.21 | cogwheel | definitely got its strengths though... Right now my laptop has just under 26 days uptime acting as my svn/ftp server |
| 02:36.50 | Cidan | what, linux? |
| 02:36.56 | cogwheel | (I can't believe I used to play wow on that thing) |
| 02:36.59 | cogwheel | yep. |
| 02:37.03 | cogwheel | FC6 |
| 02:37.14 | Cidan | This client is irssi connected on one of my servers and in a screen session |
| 02:37.19 | Cidan | I've been on IRC for 3 weeks now |
| 02:37.21 | Cidan | I think |
| 02:37.45 | Cidan | 22:36 Irssi uptime: 18d 4h 45m 24s |
| 02:38.11 | Lunessa | Hrm, (US) $210 seems reasonable for 2 years of hosting. |
| 02:38.31 | Cidan | Before you do that with ANY host, even a recommended one |
| 02:38.34 | Cidan | I'd try it for a month |
| 02:38.53 | Cidan | never lock in at 2 years off the bat for... anything really. |
| 02:39.16 | Lunessa | Yeah, I'm just looking at features and cost. I still need to back up the current site, arrange with the current host for the tansfer, etc. |
| 02:39.26 | Lunessa | I'm not ready to leap yet. ;) |
| 02:40.40 | Cidan | man |
| 02:40.46 | Cidan | my girlfriend is totally rockin' TF2 |
| 02:40.48 | Cidan | she loves it |
| 02:40.51 | Cidan | ... |
| 02:40.53 | Cidan | That's so hot. |
| 02:40.54 | Cidan | :D |
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| 02:45.29 | AnduinLothar | yay! I got a hot! |
| 02:45.35 | AnduinLothar | Fel-Reaver Piston ftw |
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| 02:54.36 | Thunder_Child | quiet it here.... |
| 02:54.49 | Cidan | yeah |
| 02:54.56 | Cidan | we're all hax0ring |
| 02:55.11 | Thunder_Child | this is the first time everyone was quiet about it |
| 02:55.16 | Thunder_Child | usualy your all boasting |
| 02:55.32 | Cidan | lol |
| 02:55.45 | Cidan | Ask Shirik what a 1337 ASM hax0r I am |
| 02:55.45 | Cidan | :P |
| 02:56.11 | Thunder_Child | i would if i knew what the hell "ASM" meant |
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| 03:00.46 | cogwheel | evening, Iriel |
| 03:01.13 | cogwheel | did cncfanatics ever get a hold of you? |
| 03:01.19 | Iriel | evening |
| 03:01.29 | Iriel | no, though I saw a message FROM cncfanatics by way of cairenn |
| 03:01.49 | Iriel | I dont know if my reply has made it back to him, or if that's WHY he's looking for me |
| 03:02.10 | cogwheel | ok... it's probably the same thing he asked me about |
| 03:03.39 | cogwheel | umm... commence memory suckage... oh yeah... about checking visibility after a change in showstates or hidestates |
| 03:03.57 | cogwheel | <3 ellipses |
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| 03:04.31 | cogwheel | and <3 cairenn (or else i'd be using the actual character …) |
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| 03:05.10 | cogwheel | I wish keyboards were more typographically rich |
| 03:05.49 | alestane | So under what category should a mod that makes sure the pet bar always appears correctly go? Units, Bars or Miscellaneous? |
| 03:05.49 | Iriel | Yeah, my response is 'the header doesn't install attribute handlers on its children, so no -- but we could add a special attribute on the parent to have it re-evaluate all of the child states' |
| 03:06.01 | Iriel | Not Units. |
| 03:06.08 | alestane | Ooh, state headers. |
| 03:06.14 | Iriel | As for the other two, take your pick. |
| 03:06.44 | alestane | I love OnAttributeChanged scripts...what's up? |
| 03:07.28 | Iriel | I like them too but dont force them on other people 8-) |
| 03:07.56 | alestane | ? Did I do something strange? |
| 03:08.29 | Iriel | alestane: No, my response was to something being discussed before you arrived about an extension to the secure state header 8-) |
| 03:08.56 | alestane | Ah...well I'm always iterested in potential changes to the secure templates... |
| 03:10.19 | JoshBorke | extension? |
| 03:11.36 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, do you get something for helping out slou other than the warm fuzzy glow of helping people? |
| 03:12.36 | Lunessa | ww.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=181&Set=64 |
| 03:12.39 | Iriel | I think it'd be relatively easy to make header:SetAttribute("refreshChild", child); to have the header re-evaluate the child visibility, we could even wrap it in a nice little method SecureStateHeader_RefreshChild(child); Then folks who 'own' their own child windows and can stick an OnAttributeChanged on them get feature. |
| 03:12.41 | Lunessa | 87 copper |
| 03:12.52 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: The warm fuzzy glow and interesting challenges. |
| 03:12.52 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, ww? |
| 03:12.57 | Lunessa | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=181&Set=64 |
| 03:13.04 | Lunessa | Damned sticky mouse. |
| 03:13.06 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, we should throw you a party then |
| 03:13.49 | alestane | The one I'd actually like (it's not totally necessary but...) would be an attribute that allows the header to show and hide itself according to its own state. |
| 03:14.07 | Cidan | afk, booting to windows and uninstalling assloads of software so I can convert drives to JFS and delete windows, :D |
| 03:14.23 | alestane | Lunessa: I went down that line of reasoning the other day pickpocketing furbolgs. |
| 03:14.31 | Iriel | alestane: The header kind of likes to keep itself visible so it can do delaystate processing |
| 03:15.08 | alestane | Iriel: Since that requires OnUpdate. |
| 03:16.23 | alestane | I've been getting around it with the new "visibility" option for state drivers...speaking of which I never expected to suggest RegisterStateDriver(GameTooltip) to somoene. |
| 03:16.58 | alestane | Someone wanted to block the tooltip from showing up in combat. |
| 03:17.30 | alestane | RegisterStateDriver(GameTooltip, "visibility", "[combat] hide") reduces it to an occasional flicker. |
| 03:17.55 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 03:18.05 | Thunder_Child | i guess they are not a click caster |
| 03:18.15 | alestane | I like that that option doesn't require a pure boolean. |
| 03:18.22 | alestane | Thunder_Child: Hunter so I'm guessing not. |
| 03:18.34 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i click cast with my hunter |
| 03:18.44 | alestane | Besides Misdirection? |
| 03:18.44 | Thunder_Child | of course i click cast with everything |
| 03:19.03 | Thunder_Child | my hunter is 18.... |
| 03:19.18 | alestane | Then no Misdirection. |
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| 03:19.23 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 03:19.38 | Thunder_Child | but i doubt i would have that bound either |
| 03:19.51 | Thunder_Child | even healing raids i would click cast |
| 03:24.31 | alestane | I hate waiting for uploads to be validated. |
| 03:25.05 | alestane | I know why it's important, but I'm the sort of person who will poke it every two minutes, going "Is it ready now? How about now?" |
| 03:28.21 | Lunessa | I am out. See you all tomorrow. |
| 03:28.42 | alestane | Good nig...too slow. |
| 03:29.01 | Thunder_Child | how are you supposed to get to ghostlands at lvl 18 |
| 03:29.13 | Thunder_Child | running through EPL is not ideal |
| 03:29.25 | alestane | From where, and why? |
| 03:29.38 | Thunder_Child | IF and because i want to tame a kitty there |
| 03:30.06 | Mike-N-Go | How much longer is the Brewfest here? |
| 03:30.12 | alestane | Well, I don't know if the translocation orb outside UC works for Alliance (I expect so) but you'd appear in the heart of Silvermoon. |
| 03:30.13 | Thunder_Child | better stuff than most cats |
| 03:30.41 | Thunder_Child | might be a bit painfull for me |
| 03:30.57 | alestane | Well, you could then rez at the nearest spirit healer outside SMC. |
| 03:31.30 | alestane | Only die once (except that you'd still be flagged and probably get ganked a few times. |
| 03:31.50 | alestane | Otherwise it's a skivvies run through WPL and EPL. |
| 03:32.14 | Thunder_Child | *sigh*, ok thanks |
| 03:32.32 | alestane | Do it after 2.3 comes out, I hear they're putting a flight path by Zul'Aman in case you ever need to go back. |
| 03:32.35 | Cidan | okay so |
| 03:32.42 | Cidan | Kaydeethree: wine + amd64 |
| 03:32.45 | Cidan | how do I do? |
| 03:33.28 | Kaydeethree | I don't have any experience at all with 64 bit processes. there should be some way to run things in 32-bit mode, but I dunno what |
| 03:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Hi. AMD64. 64-bit WINE binary. Plays WoW. |
| 03:36.18 | Cidan | latest ubuntu package works then? |
| 03:36.31 | Cidan | it's one version behind main |
| 03:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably. Ever since the 2.2 PTR I've been using the git sources |
| 03:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | But any recent version should work, yes |
| 03:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | There's nothing special about it being 64-bit at all, I'm positive Ubuntu's kernel is compiled to support the 32-bit binaries |
| 03:37.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I install and run exactly as I would 32-bit |
| 03:37.51 | Cidan | well, time to test Steam... |
| 03:38.00 | ScytheBlade1 | HAHA. |
| 03:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sorry. ;) |
| 03:38.11 | Cidan | whhaatt? |
| 03:38.15 | Kaydeethree | steam worked spotlessly for me |
| 03:38.29 | Kaydeethree | considering getting my own copy of the orange box, supposedly it works just fine too |
| 03:38.36 | Cidan | most anti-valve people do |
| 03:38.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not valv.e |
| 03:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | *vavle. |
| 03:38.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh screw it :P |
| 03:38.56 | Cidan | it's steam |
| 03:38.57 | Cidan | the service |
| 03:38.59 | Cidan | the memory it uses |
| 03:39.03 | Cidan | extra process |
| 03:39.05 | Cidan | how it watches you |
| 03:39.06 | Cidan | etc |
| 03:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Watches me? No, screw that |
| 03:39.13 | Cidan | name it, I've heard it, all unfounded and FUD |
| 03:39.20 | Cidan | RIght |
| 03:39.26 | Cidan | Warden is like, 20 times worse |
| 03:39.40 | Cidan | Whatever, people will get over it |
| 03:39.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I just think it's retarded that a game requires internet connectivity for a single player game. |
| 03:39.47 | Cidan | NO IT DOES NOT |
| 03:39.53 | Cidan | God why do you people THINK that? |
| 03:40.00 | Cidan | Where do people even GET this idea?1 |
| 03:40.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I have yet to get HL2 to launch once without internet. And yes, I've checked the box. |
| 03:40.05 | Cidan | It drives me nuts. |
| 03:40.07 | ScytheBlade1 | (Brother's steam account) |
| 03:40.16 | Cidan | I do it *ALL* the time on this laptop |
| 03:40.19 | Cidan | *ALL* the time. |
| 03:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Want to fix mine? Because no matter how many times I check that stupid box, it refuses to work. |
| 03:40.57 | Cidan | gimmi a sec to install steam in linux |
| 03:40.58 | Cidan | :D |
| 03:41.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:42.40 | ScytheBlade1 | All I want to do, is click an executable, and have the game launch. That's really what it comes down to. |
| 03:45.24 | AnduinLothar | wow.exe? |
| 03:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | HalfLife2.exe. |
| 03:45.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ;P |
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| 03:49.15 | alestane | Great, I try to throw in my input about the changes to the warrior talents, and get bitch slapped by a level 2 rogue for having a level 70 warlock with only 6k health, so it's no wonder I get slaughtered in PvP (I don't PvP). |
| 03:50.13 | alestane | She apparently thinks I'm bitching about the warrior specs that rip me up in the Arena, rather than trying to give input about my 64 DPS warrior. |
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| 03:52.22 | Thunder_Child | you know at this rate, if i ever got an os that didnt crash on me all the time, i would feel lost and alone |
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| 04:03.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I so shouldn't have opened the steam homepage |
| 04:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Those prices are nice :/ |
| 04:04.01 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 04:04.24 | Thunder_Child | they can be untill you have purchased some and the rest come in packs.... |
| 04:07.42 | Thunder_Child | ...why cant i tame zombies...i mean, i'm willing to feed them brains |
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| 04:54.50 | Cidan | oh man |
| 04:54.55 | Cidan | TF2...is starting! |
| 04:55.05 | Cidan | *testing w/ wine in Gusty* |
| 04:56.15 | Cidan | oohhh man |
| 04:56.17 | Cidan | holy crap |
| 04:56.22 | Cidan | it runs even better than in windows! |
| 04:56.24 | Cidan | hahaha |
| 04:56.24 | Cidan | :D |
| 04:57.12 | Cairenn|afk | lol cog|away, the guy reported it a second time - I finally gave in and sent him an email |
| 04:57.23 | cog|away | haha |
| 04:57.36 | cog|away | he's a bit on the paranoid side |
| 04:57.38 | Cairenn|afk | What do you mean there is something wrong with the link? I've given that link out to users multiple times myself over the years. |
| 04:58.13 | Cairenn|afk | be interesting to see what sort of response I get to that |
| 05:03.51 | Cairenn|afk | and yet another case of people thinking we are Blizzard: |
| 05:03.51 | Cairenn|afk | i am running windows vista, and i am having problems with the windows, such as my character window, or a merchants window always gets stuck somewhere up in the corner when i have not moved it up there. It makes it so i cannot move the window down even if i try to reset the mod, or try different things. I it is very frustrating  and makes me want to no longer play the game if this continues. Please fix somehow, or make it so th |
| 05:05.39 | Thunder_Child | "I it is very frustrating  and makes me want to no longer play the game if this continues. " if they think that wowi is blizzard, maybe we dont want them playing |
| 05:05.47 | Cidan | Does Wine only support DX8? |
| 05:06.53 | Kaydeethree | there's some 9 support and the most mediocre of 10 support iirc |
| 05:07.03 | Kaydeethree | s/mediocre/minimal/ |
| 05:07.48 | Cidan | that's a shame |
| 05:07.55 | Cidan | so many shaders missing from TF2 |
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| 05:25.41 | the-golem | lol Cairenn|afk |
| 05:27.04 | Cairenn|afk | which one, the-golem? |
| 05:31.22 | Thunder_Child | "please give me time and understanding, my penis thanks you" |
| 05:32.03 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 05:32.17 | Cidan | that's so hot |
| 05:33.04 | Thunder_Child | snap shot of a relationship conversation |
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| 05:49.59 | Cairenn|afk | lol, I think of one particular episode of CSI every time you do that Cidan |
| 05:53.47 | art3mis | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 05:54.26 | Cidan | ? |
| 05:54.35 | art3mis | err i mean hi! |
| 05:54.38 | Thunder_Child | your the one that i want, ooh ooh ooh |
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| 05:54.50 | art3mis | TC kickin' OLD school! |
| 05:54.58 | Thunder_Child | soundtrack |
| 05:55.14 | art3mis | sadly i remember when that came out |
| 05:55.17 | Thunder_Child | while trying to find some damn pears |
| 05:55.18 | art3mis | i feel so old |
| 05:55.23 | Thunder_Child | you are |
| 05:55.27 | Thunder_Child | now help me find the pears |
| 05:55.27 | art3mis | i know |
| 05:55.36 | art3mis | pears? |
| 05:55.46 | Thunder_Child | sand pears |
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| 05:56.13 | art3mis | are thsoe those awesome super juicy ones? |
| 05:56.37 | art3mis | that come in a little styrofoam mesh sorta packageing |
| 05:57.01 | Thunder_Child | bloodmyst isle doesnt have a packing plant sadly :( |
| 05:57.21 | art3mis | oh THOSE pears |
| 05:57.58 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 05:58.01 | art3mis | i really ned to move these clorox wipes |
| 05:58.17 | Thunder_Child | dont blame your....dificulty on fumes |
| 05:58.18 | Cidan | sooo, this somewhat sucks |
| 05:58.22 | art3mis | they're in one of those wetnap looking bottles and i wanted to blow my nose |
| 05:58.30 | Cidan | Wine doesn't have DX9 effects, and cedega sucks. |
| 05:58.38 | Thunder_Child | that would have been.....interesting |
| 05:58.53 | art3mis | right up to the scream of OH MY GOD MY EYES ARE BURNING |
| 05:59.05 | Thunder_Child | ..how did your eyes get into this? |
| 05:59.27 | art3mis | cuz they're close to my nose? |
| 05:59.41 | art3mis | crossover doesnt play nice? |
| 05:59.53 | art3mis | are cedega and crossover just speciality versions of wine? |
| 05:59.53 | Thunder_Child | well unless your wiping your eyeballs i doubt it would be a bigger problem than your nose |
| 06:00.37 | Cidan | never used crossover |
| 06:00.38 | Cidan | hmm |
| 06:01.20 | art3mis | only major thing about crossover that sucks is that it prefers to set up it's own bottles |
| 06:01.32 | art3mis | which requires you to install through it for it to play nice |
| 06:01.47 | Cidan | same as cedega |
| 06:05.27 | art3mis | http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/change_log/ |
| 06:06.21 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 06:07.39 | art3mis | seeya cutie |
| 06:07.53 | Cidan | cutie? |
| 06:07.58 | Cidan | I see how it is now... |
| 06:08.04 | art3mis | what shes cute |
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| 06:09.11 | Cidan | well, yes, but... still, yeah... |
| 06:09.28 | TC-Holding | *sigh* second BSoD today |
| 06:13.07 | Thunder_Child | WTB Vista SP1 |
| 06:13.33 | art3mis | why? it just formats your drive and installs XP |
| 06:13.40 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 06:14.35 | Cidan | man, I do love ubuntu |
| 06:14.39 | Cidan | 294 memory usage |
| 06:14.45 | Cidan | that's it. |
| 06:15.46 | art3mis | hows 7.10? |
| 06:15.50 | Cidan | nice |
| 06:16.00 | Cidan | fixed the 8800 + 100% CPU bug |
| 06:16.01 | art3mis | compiz integration decent on ati? |
| 06:16.05 | Cidan | dunno |
| 06:16.08 | Cidan | use 8800 |
| 06:16.09 | art3mis | oh yer on desk |
| 06:16.17 | Cidan | will try laptop later |
| 06:17.38 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=3FD1F409D91B1A4D14D3930BE0ED30F8?topicId=2043952003&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 06:17.39 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 06:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | that explains |
| 06:17.43 | sag_ich_nicht | a LOT |
| 06:18.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i hope a bugfix for this manages to make it into 2.3 |
| 06:20.22 | Thunder_Child | prolly, 2.3 is supposed to have quite a long PTR life |
| 06:20.40 | art3mis | helloween starts thursday right? |
| 06:20.49 | Thunder_Child | ingame or irl? |
| 06:20.57 | Thunder_Child | 18th in game i think |
| 06:21.11 | art3mis | really? well then when is real helloween |
| 06:21.18 | Thunder_Child | 30th |
| 06:21.21 | art3mis | damn my immersion in this game! |
| 06:21.24 | Cidan | art3mis: dcc |
| 06:21.31 | art3mis | got it |
| 06:21.44 | art3mis | of course it doesnt work though |
| 06:21.47 | Cidan | totally may not work |
| 06:21.50 | Cidan | no ports forwarded |
| 06:21.54 | art3mis | heh none here either |
| 06:22.00 | Cidan | well fail |
| 06:22.04 | art3mis | thats the only thing i dislike about this client |
| 06:22.16 | art3mis | scriollz used to work great without the need |
| 06:23.10 | Thunder_Child | art3mis, http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/hallowsend/ |
| 06:23.55 | art3mis | woo |
| 06:24.01 | art3mis | must get flying broom! |
| 06:24.11 | sag_ich_nicht | must. get. helm. |
| 06:24.18 | Thunder_Child | you people and your wierd obsessions |
| 06:24.26 | sag_ich_nicht | we will farm him to death. |
| 06:24.42 | art3mis | im a shadow priest female |
| 06:24.48 | art3mis | and ive been called a witch quite a bit ;P |
| 06:24.54 | art3mis | seems fitting personally |
| 06:25.01 | art3mis | no wait that was a B not a w |
| 06:27.47 | Thunder_Child | http://www.beowulfmovie.com/restricted/index.html o.O |
| 06:28.34 | Thunder_Child | heh, wont let me in |
| 06:29.45 | Thunder_Child | that would be quite funny if jolie played an old hag |
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| 06:31.04 | Cidan | _art3mis: fail |
| 06:33.16 | _art3mis | one sec, stupid router |
| 06:33.31 | Cidan | check /msg |
| 06:34.59 | _art3mis | yeah i cant send cuz this name isn't reg'd |
| 06:35.07 | Cidan | doh |
| 06:35.07 | _art3mis | send me server infos |
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| 06:37.25 | _art3mis | plink |
| 06:37.29 | Thunder_Child | why not just get your old name back? |
| 06:37.54 | _art3mis | im lazy and itll time out ;P |
| 06:38.04 | Thunder_Child | fail |
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| 06:55.50 | Thunder_Child | lazy bastard |
| 06:58.46 | art3mis | thanks |
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| 07:21.35 | art3mis | hrm thats not a bad way to get some cash |
| 07:21.56 | art3mis | farm up the greens in the low level instances wait for 2.3 to make em blues |
| 07:24.05 | Maldivia | hehe... from GlobalStrings.lua: RATINGS_TEXT = "The text of the new improved and really really cool Korean Ratings go in this string. -Tom Thompson"; |
| 07:24.31 | Maldivia | art3mis: problem is probably, that most of them are BoP? |
| 07:24.46 | art3mis | greenies arent |
| 07:24.52 | art3mis | greenies are almost always boe |
| 07:25.04 | Maldivia | not the greens that will be upgraded to BoP |
| 07:25.09 | Maldivia | to blue* |
| 07:25.15 | Maldivia | since they are boss drops |
| 07:25.26 | art3mis | some stuff might not |
| 07:25.28 | art3mis | shrug |
| 07:25.37 | art3mis | like 1st two bosses of deadmines |
| 07:25.47 | art3mis | still kind of a neat though |
| 07:26.04 | art3mis | one way to check would be to go farm up a ton and transfer to the ptr and see if they get changed |
| 07:26.08 | Maldivia | first boss in deadmines drops a white item! |
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| 07:28.30 | art3mis | cool! |
| 07:28.36 | art3mis | maybe itll be come a green! |
| 07:28.37 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:28.48 | Calib | What server a u from art3mis |
| 07:28.50 | art3mis | appearantly someone also figured the fire proc trick on mmowned |
| 07:29.32 | art3mis | that depends entire on who you are and why ;P |
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| 07:31.14 | dreamss | hush niga |
| 07:32.18 | art3mis | its on like michelle kwan! |
| 07:33.03 | dreamss | aprently some deadmines drops are boe on the ptr |
| 07:33.05 | dreamss | heh |
| 07:33.12 | Wobwork | hehe hammer =) |
| 07:35.50 | dreamss | oh shit |
| 07:35.54 | dreamss | headless douchbag |
| 07:35.56 | dreamss | tomm |
| 07:36.34 | art3mis | yup yup |
| 07:41.51 | art3mis | death choir boogie oogie oogie death choir |
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| 07:48.48 | Maldivia | baah... not a single blue or green drop from the bosses in stockades, in the PTR run I just did :| |
| 07:49.46 | art3mis | you == suck ;) |
| 07:51.43 | Maldivia | on to DM I guess |
| 07:53.09 | Maldivia | so weird that they are all non-elite outside the instance |
| 07:53.22 | art3mis | its a trap |
| 07:53.31 | art3mis | they do that so you're totally un prepared for the brutes inside |
| 07:56.09 | Maldivia | they even nerfed the undeads outside DM :| |
| 07:57.53 | Maldivia | uhh, the white hammer is blue now... and not BoP... and not BoE either! |
| 07:58.10 | art3mis | uhhh |
| 07:58.14 | art3mis | which ones? |
| 07:58.55 | Maldivia | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5187 |
| 07:59.20 | Esamynn | lol, looks like they forgot a flag |
| 07:59.25 | art3mis | oh deadmines |
| 07:59.34 | art3mis | hehe i kept reading that as dire maul |
| 07:59.41 | Adys | belt of arugal is "Use: Increases spell dmg and healing by 2" |
| 07:59.48 | art3mis | trying to figure out where the hell there were undead near dire maul |
| 07:59.56 | art3mis | by 2? |
| 08:00.01 | art3mis | thats totally OP |
| 08:00.05 | Adys | yea |
| 08:00.12 | Adys | and thats on use :/ |
| 08:00.52 | art3mis | twinking is gonna be lucrative for the dumb people ;P |
| 08:01.03 | Maldivia | Esamynn: yep, on a lot of items.. |
| 08:01.12 | Esamynn | haha |
| 08:01.13 | Maldivia | Esamynn: shredder also drops a blue now, that's not soulbindable |
| 08:02.28 | Maldivia | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2169 |
| 08:04.02 | Maldivia | and no longer any agility on glinids rings... :| |
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| 08:07.12 | Astrylian | Rawr. |
| 08:07.41 | Astrylian | Anyone alive that's good with Macros? |
| 08:09.33 | Maldivia | what do you need? |
| 08:16.21 | [melin|sleep] | not much it seems :D |
| 08:20.50 | Maldivia | [melin]: apparently not :9 |
| 08:23.01 | [melin] | Astrylian what do you need? within macros that is.. |
| 08:30.26 | Astrylian | Heh, sorry, tabbed back over to a different window after not getting a response within a couple min. |
| 08:30.51 | Astrylian | If you're still there, I was wondering if there was any way to make a cast sequence reset from the first press, rather than the 2nd. |
| 08:31.01 | Astrylian | Err, last, I mean, rather than 2nd. |
| 08:31.43 | Astrylian | I'm guessing not, that it's a designed limitation, but wanted to ask to be sure. |
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| 08:37.15 | Astrylian | ...Rawr Clad? |
| 08:37.20 | clad|sleep | ? |
| 08:37.23 | clad|sleep | what |
| 08:37.39 | Astrylian | Hey clad. Been a while... |
| 08:37.43 | cladhaire | heh |
| 08:37.55 | Astrylian | Had a macro queston, you might know the answer to. |
| 08:38.11 | cladhaire | i dont |
| 08:38.13 | cladhaire | i'm getting in the shower |
| 08:38.15 | cladhaire | bbiab |
| 08:38.19 | Astrylian | Heh, alright, g'night |
| 08:38.37 | cladhaire | its morning for me |
| 08:38.38 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 08:44.25 | sag_ich_nicht | hello. |
| 09:03.04 | Maldivia | Astrylian: I'm not quite sure what you mean? You can set it to reset when you change target, after a period of time (where the macro havne't been used), or on modifiers |
| 09:03.37 | Maldivia | ohh and on entering combat |
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| 10:18.12 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 10:18.12 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366683346&pageNo=2&sid=1#33 |
| 10:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | COMEDY GOLD |
| 10:25.25 | krka | i dont get it |
| 10:25.44 | Neebler | RETARDED |
| 10:25.48 | Neebler | not gold |
| 10:26.13 | cladhaire | wow |
| 10:26.14 | cladhaire | so angry |
| 10:26.18 | cladhaire | damn that rap music. |
| 10:26.34 | Neebler | I don't listen to rap |
| 10:26.39 | cladhaire | lies. |
| 10:26.49 | cladhaire | just what i'd expect an angry rap fanatic to say |
| 10:26.57 | cladhaire | bet you don't play XBox360 either, do you? |
| 10:26.58 | cladhaire | hrm? |
| 10:27.02 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 10:27.43 | Neebler | no I don't actually |
| 10:28.13 | cladhaire | dot dot dot |
| 10:28.15 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:25] <krka> i dont get it <--then you haven't played since release |
| 10:28.16 | sag_ich_nicht | lurk mroe |
| 10:28.17 | sag_ich_nicht | *more |
| 10:28.18 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 10:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Neebler hasn't played since release, either, obviously |
| 10:29.10 | sag_ich_nicht | fisker checkout the link |
| 10:29.12 | sag_ich_nicht | it's hilarious |
| 10:29.22 | sag_ich_nicht | *check out |
| 10:30.04 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:30.38 | sag_ich_nicht | well you suck, it's more epic than what you did to get permabanned from the forums. :O |
| 10:31.23 | Neebler | what did he do? |
| 10:31.31 | Fisker- | obvious troll |
| 10:31.38 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366683346&pageNo=2&sid=1#33 that |
| 10:31.38 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 10:31.52 | sag_ich_nicht | (if you don't get why it's hilarious, you didn't lurk enough) |
| 10:32.53 | Fisker- | no you didn't lurk enough |
| 10:33.07 | Fisker- | it's not funny because of the lack of new material |
| 10:33.14 | Fisker- | of course if you had lurked moar you would know that |
| 10:34.29 | Fisker- | http://www.wowblues.com/us/brewfest-ends-2366683224.html <-i wonder what was so hard to hotfix |
| 10:34.37 | Fisker- | didn't know any issues with the dark iron attacks |
| 10:34.52 | cladhaire | there were tons of issues with it |
| 10:35.00 | cladhaire | namely the people who used addons and macros to ruin the event for everyone |
| 10:35.14 | Kaso | I'd be interested to see some stats on the number of pallys with greater than kara epics and what spec they are. i bet retadins are a small minority |
| 10:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: basicially the server shat itself because too many people were sending emotes. |
| 10:35.21 | Fisker- | 1. which had nothing to do with the dark iron dwarves |
| 10:35.30 | Fisker- | and 2. Which were fixed independently of the event |
| 10:35.57 | cladhaire | hrm, I understood that it was the same event |
| 10:36.07 | cladhaire | so they just disabled it |
| 10:36.08 | Fisker- | the /wave spam was hotfixed |
| 10:36.24 | Fisker- | and it didn't have anything to do with the event other than /wave would give you a sampler that you could throw at the dark iron dwarves |
| 10:36.43 | cladhaire | okay... |
| 10:37.11 | Fisker- | of course i wouldn't be complaining if Blizzard actually were able to activate the event on our server |
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| 11:49.40 | Kaso | Anyone know of a http/ftp place that has portal content.gcf i cant download off of steam atm :< |
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| 12:04.56 | clad | Cairenn|afk: ping, did you see that the guy is at it again, reporting the file? |
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| 12:11.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, an http/ftp, no dice kaso |
| 12:12.15 | Kaso_ | Ive found someone on my campus who has it and can ftp it to me over lovely 100MB LAN :> |
| 12:12.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i found it on tpb though, untouched from retail apparently, which probably includes the gcfs |
| 12:12.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 12:12.29 | JoshBorke | morning all |
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| 12:12.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | morning jb |
| 12:12.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to bed i think |
| 12:13.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | night all, i get to wake up when it's dark out! i love not having a circadian rhythm at all! |
| 12:13.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really :[ |
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| 12:47.39 | Lin | morning (ugt) all! |
| 12:49.09 | clad | ugt |
| 12:49.10 | clad | ! |
| 12:49.15 | clad | and bye! |
| 12:50.41 | Lin | ugt (universal greeting time) |
| 12:51.37 | Lin | http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:52.01 | JoshBorke | ~ugt |
| 12:52.02 | purl | ugt is, like, Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:52.30 | Lin | good! we have a smart bot |
| 12:52.43 | Lin | The idea behind establishing this convention was to eliminate noise generated almost every time someone comes in and greets using some form of day-time based greeting, and then channel members on the other side of the globe start pointing out that it's different time of the day for them. Now, instead of spending time figuring out what time of day is it for every member of the channel, we spend time explaining newcomers benefits of UGT. |
| 12:55.28 | MoonWolf | same amount of spam |
| 12:55.30 | MoonWolf | but more fun |
| 12:57.10 | wereHamster | stephen colbert for precident :D |
| 12:58.24 | MoonWolf | hardly |
| 12:58.53 | MoonWolf | comedians and actors don't make good leaders. |
| 12:59.17 | wereHamster | he announced it yesterday, and I strongly believe in him ;) |
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| 13:00.36 | Kaso_ | MoonWolf, what'd regan do again? |
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| 13:03.37 | MoonWolf | no clue, but i don't much care for presidents that want to entertain people and think about their image |
| 13:05.32 | wereHamster | well.. bush entertains me |
| 13:06.24 | MoonWolf | can't ague with that. |
| 13:06.32 | wereHamster | whether he wants that or not, I don't know, but he's definitely entertaining :) |
| 13:07.42 | cncfanatics | gah, think I found some blizz macro bugs |
| 13:07.50 | cncfanatics | anyone available ? got some weird stuff here |
| 13:10.11 | Lin | anyone had success with wow + linux + voice-chat? |
| 13:12.18 | Lin | cncfanatics: what kind of bugs:? |
| 13:12.40 | cncfanatics | Lin, ehm, macro id ones mainly |
| 13:12.41 | wereHamster | the builtin voice test worked here |
| 13:12.45 | cncfanatics | they get shuffled randomly sometimes |
| 13:13.20 | wereHamster | I didn't chat with anyone, but the sound capturing worked |
| 13:13.21 | Lin | wereHamster: are you using alsa or OSS? |
| 13:13.27 | wereHamster | alsa |
| 13:13.31 | Lin | as me |
| 13:13.43 | Lin | you alsa card is shown as dmix:0? |
| 13:13.55 | wereHamster | yes |
| 13:14.19 | Lin | do you use this as capture ? |
| 13:14.42 | Lin | (i didn't remember how is shown here) |
| 13:14.55 | wereHamster | dsnoop is the capturing device\ |
| 13:15.19 | Lin | hmm |
| 13:15.24 | Lin | ok. |
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| 13:15.32 | Lin | I will check when I arrive at home |
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| 13:44.20 | Kaydeethree | dsnoop:0 is capture |
| 13:44.24 | Kaydeethree | bah, timestamps |
| 13:44.36 | Kaydeethree | drilling through a concrete slab is a slow and loud process |
| 13:45.16 | Beladona | Kaydeethree: I think you told me yesterday, but I missed it in the hubub of conversation. What guild did you say you were in on Medivh? |
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| 13:47.06 | Kaydeethree | I was in <M N D>, left a few weeks ago because I haven't been on to raid in a few months, I'm currently unguilded, trying to decide if I want to get back in the raiding scene |
| 13:47.38 | TS|Skrom | !c us uldum skrom |
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| 13:47.40 | ThraeBot | TS|Skrom: Skrom, Level 30 Orc Hunter (21/0/0). 1115 HP; 1170 Mana; 63 mana regen; 3.36% melee crit; 37.80 Ranged DPS; 4.24% ranged crit; 3.17% dodge;[[ TBR: 485 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqbprn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2llfwm ][ Updated: Wed Oct 17 09:50:16 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:47.46 | Kaydeethree | beh, net drops just as you said that |
| 13:47.51 | Kaydeethree | [09:45:51] <Kaydeethree> I was in <M N D>, left a few weeks ago because I haven't been on to raid in a few months, I'm currently unguilded, trying to decide if I want to get back in the raiding scene |
| 13:48.07 | Beladona | Alliance? |
| 13:48.11 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 13:48.30 | Beladona | put Pwnakin in your friends |
| 13:48.42 | Beladona | thats my alt I am playing until I can get my shaman transferred |
| 13:48.47 | cogwheel | Beladona: got code? (from AL) |
| 13:48.54 | Beladona | yes |
| 13:48.59 | Beladona | thank you |
| 13:48.59 | cogwheel | kwel |
| 13:49.18 | Lopeppeppy | TS|Skrom, I thought you were working up your 60+ hunter? I just can't keep track of you these days! |
| 13:49.30 | TS|Skrom | !c us gul'dan skrom |
| 13:49.32 | ThraeBot | TS|Skrom: Skrom, Level 67 Orc Hunter (44/11/3). 6693 HP; 4074 Mana; 98 mana regen; 19 mp5; 3500 Armour; 1070 AP; 157.200 Melee DPS; 8.48% melee crit; 18 melee hit; 1016 RAP; 225.10 Ranged DPS; 14.08% ranged crit; 18 ranged hit; 7.74% dodge;[[ TBR: 1383 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bgqw7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wo32v ][ Updated: Wed Oct 17 09:52:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:49.35 | TS|Skrom | !! |
| 13:49.49 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, okay then! *grin* |
| 13:50.05 | Beladona | thats cool |
| 13:50.09 | TS|Skrom | I've been trying a new one too, the level 30 has right around 1 day /played time |
| 13:50.14 | JoshBorke | i'm so close to breaking 950 shadow spelldamage =( |
| 13:50.17 | Beladona | !c Azjol-Nerub Shawned |
| 13:50.21 | Beladona | oh |
| 13:50.28 | Lopeppeppy | And then are you going to see how much shorter 1-30 is after 2.3, TS|Skrom? |
| 13:50.35 | Beladona | !c us Azjol-Nerub Shawned |
| 13:50.37 | ThraeBot | Beladona: Shawned, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/5/56). 7289 HP; 9962 Mana; 238 mana regen; 111 mp5; 4503 Armour; 4.36% melee crit; 136 +spell dmg; 1641 +heal; 4.36% dodge; 5.00% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 882 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/244cut ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2we32s ][ Updated: Wed Oct 17 09:53:13 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:50.42 | TS|Skrom | something like that ! |
| 13:51.29 | TS|Skrom | I figure if I want to avoid respec fees I'll just have to have 3 huntards! |
| 13:51.36 | TS|Skrom | j/k ;-) |
| 13:51.43 | Beladona | I am waiting to respec for 2.3 as well |
| 13:52.11 | Beladona | !c us Azjol-Nerub Beladona |
| 13:52.13 | Lopeppeppy | Well.... it works in some ways, TS|Skrom! I'm waiting for 2.3 to level my druid and mage and warlock, but my priesty is so close to 57 it's not worth waiting around. |
| 13:52.13 | ThraeBot | Beladona: Beladona, Level 70 Human Warrior (8/5/48). 14864 HP; 15645 Armour; 698 AP; 129.700 Melee DPS; 11.67% melee crit; 25 melee hit; 328 defense; 17.17% dodge; 25.07% block;[[ TBR: 1060 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yw58ob ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3523em ][ Updated: Wed Oct 17 09:54:49 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:52.29 | Beladona | what the |
| 13:52.35 | Beladona | must be in dps gear |
| 13:53.01 | Beladona | oh tahts weird, the bot only shows base defense, not total? |
| 13:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | Under my forum sig for my raid group, "If you check my Armory and it looks weird, I probably logged out in my pajamas." |
| 13:53.27 | TS|Skrom | heh |
| 13:54.14 | TS|Skrom | I deleted a 21 draenei hunter to make that second skrom so I'm really only up 9 levels so far :-/ |
| 13:54.57 | JoshBorke | !c us stormreaver dagh |
| 13:54.57 | ThraeBot | JoshBorke: Dagh, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (14/2/45). 6701 HP; 7395 Mana; 140 mana regen; 24 mp5; 124 spell crit; 99 spell hit; 764 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (943); 179 shadow dmg (943); 4.82% dodge; 33 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1029 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25cjtb ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xmaya ][ Updated: Wed Oct 17 08:22:29 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:56.47 | TS|Skrom | JoshBorke wouldn't the blue trinket from HFP be better then the Glowing Crystal Insignia? or do you swap alot? |
| 13:57.01 | JoshBorke | it would |
| 13:57.05 | JoshBorke | but i can't find any hordies to kill |
| 13:57.17 | TS|Skrom | I'm talking about the illidari one |
| 13:57.22 | JoshBorke | i think i sold it |
| 13:57.31 | JoshBorke | like an idiot |
| 13:57.35 | TS|Skrom | ahh |
| 13:57.43 | Beladona | I forgot to check, but are they changing the Warrior Prot Talent for Imp Sunder Armor? |
| 13:57.45 | JoshBorke | i wasn't always shadow |
| 13:57.51 | Beladona | since Devastate will replace it now |
| 13:57.56 | Maldivia | Beladona: they are |
| 13:58.08 | Beladona | what to? is it gonna reduce rage cost of Devastate? |
| 13:58.10 | Maldivia | Beladona: it applies to both sunder and devastate now |
| 13:58.14 | Beladona | awesome |
| 13:58.36 | Maldivia | devastate can be reduced to 9 rage now... although it's currently bugged, and most of the time uses 18 rage :) |
| 13:58.42 | Beladona | ew |
| 13:58.47 | Beladona | they will fix it |
| 13:58.58 | Beladona | its gonna be so hawt for threat building |
| 13:59.41 | Beladona | sunder, but with dmg |
| 14:01.12 | Lopeppeppy | My best-friend-tank is already drooling. |
| 14:01.33 | cncfanatics | Tekkub, is it possible that a lot of data misses in the horde tourguide ? |
| 14:02.12 | cncfanatics | anything between 29 & 50 is missing |
| 14:05.55 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone knows a cooldown count like addon, that "pulses" the action button when it's ready? (ie, a semi transparant icon grows to about double it's size, but it's on top of the action button, and not center of the screen like JIMs) |
| 14:06.22 | cncfanatics | omnicc |
| 14:06.36 | Maldivia | since when does omni do that? |
| 14:07.03 | Kaydeethree | since ~2.1? |
| 14:07.18 | Maldivia | hmm, ok :9 |
| 14:07.30 | Maldivia | guess I need to update mine then :9 |
| 14:07.57 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. I thought mine was updated, and I've never seen it grow the button. It flashes a bit, but doesn't get huge. |
| 14:11.09 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: if someone hasn't written the guide yet, then yes |
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| 14:13.23 | cncfanatics | why doesn't he simple take joana's quest order ? |
| 14:13.51 | JoshBorke | because that would be illegal? |
| 14:14.11 | cncfanatics | no it wouldn't |
| 14:14.22 | cncfanatics | u can't copyright the order of something, only the notes that were putten by the author |
| 14:14.34 | cncfanatics | and joana didn't put any notes in his guide (or barely), so nothing illegal |
| 14:14.46 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: aparently it does, just tested, there's a "Show pulse" option now, that I haven't seen before :) |
| 14:16.08 | Kaydeethree | ah for the wonderful state I live in... http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2007/10/15/buford_dam_as_the_next_fort_su.html |
| 14:16.50 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent, Maldivia. I'm going to have to investigate a bit more narrowly if I get play-time tonight. |
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| 14:47.55 | zenzelezz | anyone know if /combatlog logs all combat messages or only the ones you have enabled for the combat log window? |
| 14:48.24 | Lopeppeppy | I was told it logs them all. |
| 14:48.35 | Kalroth | it logs all messages you recieve, but I've heard stories of addons being able to fuck it up somehow |
| 14:48.45 | Kalroth | never seen any proof of it though |
| 14:48.54 | zenzelezz | I'll just have to test it and nuke addons if something's missing =) |
| 14:49.22 | Kalroth | well I run with a lot of addons and I've never lost any messages |
| 14:49.35 | Kalroth | it's only on people too far away, like 60+ yards |
| 14:49.51 | Kalroth | It gets funky on those, miss out on a lot of message, but you'd never recieve those in the first place |
| 14:49.57 | Kalroth | so it's a server thing |
| 14:50.08 | Lopeppeppy | I dont' have the same faith in combat log reports that my raid leaders do.... even with extended range. |
| 14:50.20 | Kalroth | Lopeppeppy: You shouldn't |
| 14:50.25 | Kalroth | They aren't exact |
| 14:50.31 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 14:50.37 | zenzelezz | I just want it for fun |
| 14:50.37 | Lopeppeppy | Try to tell the brick wall that. *rolls eyes* |
| 14:50.39 | Kalroth | It's a good indication though |
| 14:51.00 | Lopeppeppy | I like to use it as a long-term comparison study, but to look at one in isolation as the mainline... not good. |
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| 14:51.15 | Kalroth | Well I'm a RL/Officer and while I enjoy browsing WWS, I don't use it for anything but supporting information |
| 14:51.35 | Kalroth | eg. if one rogue does 1200 DPS on WWS and another rogue does 850 DPS, then there's something wrong |
| 14:51.51 | Kalroth | assuming they had equal conditions |
| 14:51.51 | Lopeppeppy | With either the reports, or the rogue, who knows which? *shrug* |
| 14:51.57 | Kalroth | Usually the rogue :) |
| 14:52.18 | Kalroth | WWS isn't exact, but it's not that inaccurate either |
| 14:52.22 | Beladona | if you look at detailed reports parsed from combat logs as a fuzzy report, rather than being exact, and like you said, compare it over time, you get a better picture |
| 14:52.29 | Beladona | but then there are other issues too |
| 14:52.37 | Kalroth | There's a lot of issues |
| 14:52.42 | Kalroth | raid task/role |
| 14:52.55 | Kalroth | If the rogue was on interruption duty, then he had to save GCD for kick |
| 14:52.57 | Beladona | for example WWS puts Explosions on HAS, or Shatters on Gruul as part of your dps |
| 14:53.08 | Lopeppeppy | It's only as accurate as what's submitted, Kalroth, and I find too many flaws in the gathering/submission of data, as well as task/role issues.... It's too tempting to look at raw numbers and ignore the rest. |
| 14:53.12 | Beladona | would be better to pull that out separately |
| 14:53.50 | Beladona | I want to see who messed up, without skewing dps numbers |
| 14:54.12 | Kalroth | Lopeppeppy: It's not that flawed. Besides, even if it was flawed, then it'd skew the values of both rogues, not just one. |
| 14:54.23 | Kalroth | But yes, you can't base anything on a single report. |
| 14:54.33 | mikma | Cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/ihqqq.jpg |
| 14:54.39 | Lopeppeppy | GIGO. |
| 14:54.40 | Kalroth | Now if it's consistant over; say 20 reports, then there might be something about it. |
| 14:55.00 | Cairenn|afk | awwww |
| 14:55.11 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Kalroth. But I refuse to look at one night in isolation, the way that many people tend to do. |
| 14:56.01 | Beladona | its the same with in-game dmg meters |
| 14:56.10 | Beladona | peopel put way too much faith in them |
| 14:56.40 | Beladona | not to mention the dorks that start pissing contents with it, sometimes at the detriment to a raid |
| 14:57.05 | Kalroth | Competition is healthy |
| 14:57.11 | Beladona | within reason |
| 14:57.19 | Kalroth | Of course, but that goes for all things ;) |
| 14:57.20 | zenzelezz | what, you mean you don't enjoy having a 20-line /say in the middle of a boss fight? |
| 14:57.41 | Kalroth | Well they're just being dumbasses if they spam dps meters during a fight |
| 14:57.46 | cncfanatics | thats silly |
| 14:57.50 | cncfanatics | idiots :p |
| 14:57.52 | Beladona | or an elemental shaman who decides he has to outdps any mage or warlock, but then gets mad at the tank when something aggroes him |
| 14:58.04 | Kalroth | l2ktm! |
| 14:58.09 | Beladona | aye |
| 14:58.20 | Kalroth | Sadly hunters are still a bit bugged |
| 14:58.32 | Kalroth | Sometimes their FD aren't resisted, but it doesn't drop threat either. |
| 14:58.46 | Beladona | I had this one shaman yell at me because he got killed -- after he used chain lightning 2 seconds after I pulled |
| 14:58.50 | Kalroth | so they show as low on KTM (obviously), but they're higher than the MT(s) |
| 14:58.55 | Kalroth | Beladona: haha |
| 14:59.07 | zenzelezz | Beladona: PUG? |
| 14:59.12 | Kalroth | Both our MTs are officers. :) |
| 14:59.13 | Beladona | yes |
| 14:59.28 | Beladona | a PUG that I promptly left |
| 14:59.37 | Kalroth | And they both generate excellent threat, so it's never an issue for us. Now dps with a brain or healers with a clue .. :p |
| 14:59.47 | Beladona | threat isn't the issue really |
| 15:00.06 | Kalroth | Naw, the shaman should have waited of course |
| 15:00.14 | Beladona | but threat doesn't magically appear, and I definitely can't do it on 3 mobs in 2 seconds |
| 15:00.14 | Kalroth | Especially if it's a 5 man instance |
| 15:00.20 | Beladona | enough to negate a chain lightning |
| 15:00.32 | Kalroth | We punish our MTs when we do heroics with them |
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| 15:00.45 | Beladona | but I know what you mean |
| 15:00.47 | Kalroth | 1 MT, 1 rogue, 1 spriest, 1 mage, 1 healer |
| 15:01.00 | Kalroth | the DPS classes pick a target each and then the MT has to keep aggro on them all :) |
| 15:01.05 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 15:01.13 | Kalroth | He spends the most of the time taunting and intervening :) |
| 15:01.19 | Beladona | I laughed one guy out of vent because he complained about tanking shattered halls |
| 15:01.32 | Kalroth | And it adds the fun of the healer overaggroing too, because he has to heal 4 people :) |
| 15:01.34 | Beladona | apparently he couldn't hold 4 or 5 mobs at a time |
| 15:01.36 | zenzelezz | I would have no problem with that Kalroth, just let them die |
| 15:01.47 | nevcairiel | our MTs would just punish the DPS for that, and let them die |
| 15:01.50 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: Well we're outgearing all heroics badly, so it's not really an issue |
| 15:01.56 | Kalroth | It's more for the fun of it |
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| 15:02.10 | Beladona | thats another issue |
| 15:02.13 | nevcairiel | plus our MTs cant really hold aggro on heroics |
| 15:02.21 | nevcairiel | too much gear |
| 15:02.22 | Beladona | the better a tanks gear, teh harder a 5 man is |
| 15:02.23 | nevcairiel | no rage |
| 15:02.25 | Kalroth | I've dps tanked both SL and SH with a single healer. We dou'ed the instances :) |
| 15:02.28 | Beladona | in my experience |
| 15:02.34 | Beladona | but that will change in 2.3 |
| 15:02.35 | Kalroth | Did all of SL in dps gear |
| 15:02.41 | zenzelezz | I do instances for fun, but that doesn't mean I'll allow anyone to fuck around. They're free to - when I'm not in the group |
| 15:02.43 | nevcairiel | it will Beladona? |
| 15:02.53 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: Not in a pug, of course nto |
| 15:02.54 | Kalroth | not* |
| 15:02.55 | Beladona | the 2.3 tank gear is all focused on stam, block, and expertise |
| 15:02.59 | Beladona | which rocks |
| 15:03.06 | Kalroth | block value > * |
| 15:03.06 | Beladona | since block scales better |
| 15:03.10 | zenzelezz | Kalroth: I'm talking any groups, guildies, friends or PUGs |
| 15:03.29 | Beladona | not to mention I want more shield slam dmg |
| 15:03.31 | Beladona | PE PEW |
| 15:03.33 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: Most of our guildies know each other well enough to fuck around. Besides, heroics are boring :) |
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| 15:03.51 | nevcairiel | anything besides 25mans is pretty boring right now |
| 15:04.07 | Beladona | I think ZA will be a fun 10 man again though |
| 15:04.11 | Beladona | but I agree |
| 15:04.14 | nevcairiel | i hope so |
| 15:04.25 | Beladona | people will go back to Karazhan because of 2.3 |
| 15:04.29 | Beladona | for the badges |
| 15:04.29 | zenzelezz | I don't care if I knew the person for a decade, if you take me as your tank you'd best be acting proper or I'll leave in an instant |
| 15:04.42 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: Lighten up :p |
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| 15:05.16 | Kalroth | Some of the best heroic runs I've had was when people fucked up and we managed to save it, even back in green/blue gear |
| 15:05.17 | nevcairiel | if people really play only crap like that in an instance, i try to start leading them a bit, if that doesnt work, i recommend quitting :P |
| 15:05.27 | zenzelezz | my job is to keep people alive, if you complicate that for no good reason then you're not looking for a tank like me |
| 15:05.46 | nevcairiel | plus i generally dont do pugs |
| 15:05.50 | Kalroth | Again, if heroics are pushing your gear/skill level, then of course |
| 15:06.20 | Kalroth | But when your MT can pull 2 packs in SL heroics room before the mind controlling and still not cause the single healer to cause a sweat |
| 15:06.20 | nevcairiel | they're not, i generally just want to get it done =P |
| 15:06.30 | Kalroth | then there's not much reason to be "serious" about the place |
| 15:06.41 | nevcairiel | heroics have been nerfed so badly |
| 15:06.47 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 15:06.50 | nevcairiel | shatterd halls was fun |
| 15:06.53 | nevcairiel | before the nerf |
| 15:06.54 | Kalroth | I got my TK attunement before they fixed it |
| 15:06.57 | Kalroth | removed it* |
| 15:07.01 | Kalroth | SH wasn't that bad |
| 15:07.02 | Beladona | I did a heroic mech one time, where this hunter wouldn't let me pull |
| 15:07.06 | Kalroth | Old Arcatraz was pure hell |
| 15:07.08 | nevcairiel | we f'ing flasked to get shatterd halls done in the timer |
| 15:07.15 | Beladona | despite the fact he kept grabbing multiple groups |
| 15:07.19 | Kalroth | The last boss in Arcatraz on heroic was a meanie |
| 15:07.24 | Beladona | he told me "learn your role" |
| 15:07.29 | nevcairiel | arcatraz wasnt that hard, imho |
| 15:07.31 | Kalroth | Beladona: That sounds like my pulls! |
| 15:07.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | cool finely a hunter that understands his role |
| 15:07.49 | Beladona | I am a perfectionist though |
| 15:07.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | pulling is a hunterjob |
| 15:07.53 | Beladona | I know I can DO that many |
| 15:08.03 | Beladona | but if you can pull wihtout it, then why not do it? |
| 15:08.26 | Beladona | I pull a lot as a warrior |
| 15:08.30 | Beladona | and do great at it |
| 15:08.31 | Kalroth | If you can pull with MD, sure. Otherwise don't bother and let the tank run in first |
| 15:08.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | ofc u can pull but hunters pull jsut like u only have more abelties like caneling a pull and giving u instand argo on 3 mobs |
| 15:08.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | huntrs are jsut better at it |
| 15:08.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'm more on the safe side too, Beladona. I prefer to do an instance methodically with no deaths, rather than push the envelope and overpull. |
| 15:08.46 | Kalroth | hooray, time to head home! |
| 15:08.50 | Beladona | I agree, and understand |
| 15:09.13 | Beladona | but this hunter wasn't MD pulling |
| 15:09.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | basicly i agree whit u Beladona bnut im a hunter so i cant say the hunter was wrong :P |
| 15:09.18 | Beladona | he was just stupid |
| 15:10.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | but the reason fir this is probley the fact no likes hunters |
| 15:10.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | we need some seruis jobs |
| 15:10.07 | Beladona | nor did he feign when we got multiples |
| 15:10.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | something we cna be good at |
| 15:10.10 | Beladona | lol |
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| 15:10.26 | Beladona | I love hunters |
| 15:10.33 | Beladona | I just think there are too many posers out there |
| 15:11.52 | Beladona | maybe I am marred |
| 15:11.59 | Beladona | part of the reason I am transferring |
| 15:12.08 | Beladona | the stupid to skilled ratio on my server is like 4:1 |
| 15:13.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | wel hunters are verry populated yes |
| 15:13.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | but for rading u realy only want 1 or 2 at most\ |
| 15:13.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | while rouges / amges al always welkome |
| 15:13.56 | Beladona | depends on the fight, but generally yeah |
| 15:14.03 | Beladona | there are some fights wherre the more ranged the better |
| 15:14.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | thats basicly becase we areny only used for crappy CC abd crapy DPS |
| 15:14.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes some fight we are usefuul but that notm any |
| 15:14.46 | Beladona | its like that for tanks too though |
| 15:14.53 | Beladona | some fights, you want several tanks |
| 15:15.14 | Beladona | others, you get to sit out, because another tank doesn't help the boss kill |
| 15:16.20 | Lopeppeppy | Some fights are better suited for warrior tanks, some scream for a paladin, others are for bears. |
| 15:16.45 | Beladona | yup |
| 15:17.06 | |Jelly| | WTB moar bears |
| 15:17.22 | |Jelly| | ..and cookies. :P |
| 15:17.22 | Lopeppeppy | Bare drood is strong frend. |
| 15:17.26 | Beladona | or a warrior that is cross specced as a dps tank |
| 15:17.49 | Cairenn | kisses is very lucky |
| 15:18.08 | |Jelly| | They're Peppy Kisses! Of course they are! |
| 15:18.19 | Beladona | lol |
| 15:18.27 | cog|work | |Jelly|: i think you missed the joke :P |
| 15:18.29 | |Jelly| | By the way, you'll be glad to know that I imported my "FOR PEPPY!" macro for my rogue. |
| 15:18.33 | |Jelly| | I'm sure I did. |
| 15:18.45 | |Jelly| | I've been looking at IRC for...well, I first looked when I said something. |
| 15:18.50 | cog|work | reminds me of the "i blew chunks... no you don't get it... chunks is our dog..." |
| 15:18.53 | cog|work | joke |
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| 15:19.14 | |Jelly| | cog|work: I lol'd. |
| 15:20.10 | Beladona | <- almost done with the "REAL" wdn compare for ptr |
| 15:20.18 | Beladona | since the old one was bad |
| 15:20.22 | Cairenn | so, cladhaire - am I given to understand from the PM you forwarded to me that the guy reported it again after I'd already told him it was fine? |
| 15:20.34 | |FF|Im2good4u | bears are always good ven if u only need 1 tank at a boss u can let the bear do dps |
| 15:20.41 | Cairenn | I only saw one more email from him about it |
| 15:21.15 | cog|work | Cairenn: do you want me to edit the description explaining what the link is? >< |
| 15:21.26 | Beladona | one of my best in-game friends is a bear tank. we have her tank for us in everything non-raid related (and some raid too of course) |
| 15:21.33 | Cairenn | cog|work: no, the guy is being a moron and really needs to read it himself :p |
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| 15:21.53 | Beladona | I got that email too |
| 15:21.55 | Beladona | I lold |
| 15:22.20 | Cairenn | Beladona: every staff member did, /report goes to all staff |
| 15:22.27 | Beladona | I know |
| 15:22.31 | Beladona | I still lol'd |
| 15:22.59 | Cairenn | clad got cranky |
| 15:23.20 | Beladona | I would have too |
| 15:24.04 | Cairenn | Your report of Cogwheel's "How to ask" ToC Hi WoWgamer233, |
| 15:24.05 | Cairenn | What do you mean there is something wrong with the link? I've given that link out to users multiple times myself over the years. If you could please tell me what the problem or concern is that you are experiencing? |
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| 15:24.41 | nevcairiel | Beladona: how did you extract the "real" 2.3 FrameXML? Pure .mpq extraction? |
| 15:24.42 | Cairenn | Please stop reporting |
| 15:24.43 | Cairenn | I am formally asking you to stop reporting files that are clearly not a security risk, or in violation of any of the site's policies. As of my count, you have reported the link in the file description here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloa...nfo.php?id=7678 at least four times, and it's getting quite tiring, considering you have already been messaged by the site administrator. |
| 15:24.43 | Cairenn | There is nothing strange about the link, or the file in the post. Ifyou don't stop reporting the file, you will be banned temporarily fromthe site. Consider this your warning. |
| 15:24.43 | Cairenn | If you have a legitimate concern about a file, please feel free tocontact a administrator, but do not continue reporting these innocuouslinks. |
| 15:24.46 | Cairenn | - Cladhaire |
| 15:25.05 | Beladona | nevcairiel: yes, 2.3 first, then ptr files extracted and replaced over top |
| 15:25.21 | Beladona | err |
| 15:25.25 | Beladona | 2.2.3 first, sorry |
| 15:25.35 | Beladona | the only thing I am not sure of though |
| 15:25.49 | Beladona | is removals, but those should show as 0byte files in the mpq |
| 15:25.49 | nevcairiel | stupid ui toolkit |
| 15:26.18 | Intangir | whats up |
| 15:26.22 | Cairenn | slouken knows it is broken nevcairiel, it will hopefully be fixed shortly for the PTR |
| 15:26.26 | Intangir | i got on ptr again last night |
| 15:26.29 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/17/amazon_1-click_patent_ruling/ hell |
| 15:26.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it was about time |
| 15:26.31 | Intangir | still dont see any season3 |
| 15:26.40 | Intangir | this is like 3-4 times now ive been told its up, but its not up |
| 15:26.40 | zenzelezz | sag_ich_nicht: let me guess, Amazon lost? |
| 15:26.47 | nevcairiel | i would've been disappointed if he wouldnt know |
| 15:26.51 | nevcairiel | srsly :) |
| 15:27.48 | Cairenn | now come on, don't I take care of you guys? of course he knows |
| 15:28.35 | nevcairiel | the theory with a branch-merge-failure on blizzys end was more fun tho |
| 15:28.47 | Cairenn | heh |
| 15:30.29 | nevcairiel | taking care of reminds me .. /me gets his /stats p magic out |
| 15:30.39 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:30.51 | nevcairiel | Dave2 is on, if you have the time ;) |
| 15:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:26] <zenzelezz> sag_ich_nicht: let me guess, Amazon lost? <--yes. |
| 15:34.55 | Kaydeethree | Intangir, they took her down after they spawned about 6 bosses who can aoe to clear out a52 |
| 15:35.16 | Intangir | why did they clear our a52? |
| 15:35.39 | Kaydeethree | last night, 11-12 eastern |
| 15:35.53 | Intangir | when are they putting it up. i want to buy it |
| 15:35.53 | dylanm | Arena vendors :p |
| 15:36.06 | Intangir | those turds are teasing us |
| 15:36.19 | Kaydeethree | blame the tards who were aoeing the room |
| 15:36.41 | Kaydeethree | the room was carpeted in skeletons |
| 15:36.44 | Intangir | ya.. |
| 15:37.44 | Intangir | it didnt even load my own character model |
| 15:37.45 | Intangir | at all |
| 15:37.47 | Intangir | logged in |
| 15:37.49 | Intangir | went in there |
| 15:37.55 | Intangir | saw like 100 ally health bars.. |
| 15:37.57 | Intangir | turned those off |
| 15:38.00 | Intangir | waited for npcs to show |
| 15:38.07 | Intangir | after about a minute they appeared but no gear on them |
| 15:38.17 | Intangir | so i left, wwalked into the tavern to log, never loaded my own player model ;) |
| 15:38.23 | Intangir | saw some NPCs |
| 15:38.26 | Intangir | and about 5million skeletons |
| 15:42.17 | Cairenn | is there anyone in here who has requested a group cloak from me and I haven't gotten it applied yet? |
| 15:42.39 | cog|work | Cairenn: whuchu talkin' bout willis? |
| 15:42.52 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: you can group up under my cloak any day |
| 15:43.03 | Intangir | Cairenn: what? |
| 15:43.28 | Cairenn | cog|work: cogwheel@WoWUIDev/whatever/whatever/cogwheel |
| 15:43.31 | Cairenn | group cloaks |
| 15:43.47 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: awww, that's sweet, thanks! |
| 15:51.26 | [melin] | anyone have a nice addon that changes the graphics to the ui according to race and/or class? like... leafs around the minimap if yer a druid etc |
| 15:52.56 | Lin | [melin]: AFAIK there isn't a generic theme. |
| 15:53.09 | [melin] | hmm.. perhaps time to make one then :D |
| 15:53.23 | [melin] | shame I suck at graphics :D |
| 15:53.30 | Intangir | theres a hello kitty paradise island skin ;) |
| 15:53.37 | Lin | [melin]: there is a lot of APIs. You should to make all add on developers use your skin |
| 15:53.39 | cog|work | [melin]: it would take an incredible amount of artwork to pull it off well |
| 15:54.01 | cog|work | take a look at T. King's mods on wowinterface to get an idea |
| 15:54.16 | [melin] | not really.. just add stuff to the UI - the leafs can be put in the background behind the minimap, swap the griffons aint that much work aso |
| 15:54.57 | cog|work | you have to make the leaves in the first place |
| 15:55.19 | cog|work | or find some that will work well and that you'll be allowed to redistribute |
| 15:55.34 | [melin] | photoshop, brushes :D |
| 15:57.42 | Lopeppeppy | I find SunnArt is great for my needs, although it doesn't specifically skin the minimap, you can move the minimap within the panel area. |
| 15:58.07 | [melin] | ah those parts I can do anyway |
| 15:58.15 | [melin] | Ive made some addons through my days already |
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| 16:08.36 | Intangir | anyone know of a sight that shows you how to make text that the opposing faction can read? |
| 16:09.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge sioraiocht (n=rtharper@nat-router-1.stannes.ox.ac.uk) |
| 16:09.16 | zenzelezz | not allowed, so don't ask for it |
| 16:09.18 | Lin | Intangir: there is no easy way to do this |
| 16:09.21 | cladhaire | if we did, we wouldn't link it here, or discuss it. |
| 16:09.32 | cladhaire | I'd ask you to respect this. |
| 16:10.02 | Intangir | Lin: i saw a site before that showed transations of random giberish into something they could read |
| 16:10.03 | sioraiocht | wow, I came in at a fun point during the convo |
| 16:10.08 | Lin | cladhaire: but isn't even allowed to discuss this? |
| 16:10.17 | cladhaire | No, not really. |
| 16:10.26 | Lin | cladhaire: ok! not allowed |
| 16:10.32 | Intangir | bah |
| 16:10.36 | cladhaire | Intangir: again, you should look elsewhere. |
| 16:10.41 | sioraiocht | LOL, i was intrigued because it seemed like a fun crypto problem |
| 16:10.42 | zenzelezz | if it's against the ToS etc, we don't talk about it here |
| 16:10.50 | Intangir | i question what kind of developer willingly restricts him or herself |
| 16:10.55 | cladhaire | sioraiocht: Its not a crypto problem anymore |
| 16:10.56 | Cairenn | as a purely hypothetical abstract concept, fine - otherwise, exactly what they've all said |
| 16:11.11 | sioraiocht | Intangir: the kind that wants to keep playing the game, there is no moral superiority in your position |
| 16:11.14 | Lin | AFAIK isn't criptografy |
| 16:11.17 | cladhaire | Intangir: those who currently have the good graces of Blizzard.. and would like to continue having said relationship, by not discussion ToS violating stuff. |
| 16:11.41 | Intangir | sioraiocht: its not about morals, its about exploration, theres nothing wrong with discussing something even something dangerious if your not going to do it |
| 16:11.45 | Lin | is just a transliteration "tr [] [] " like |
| 16:11.51 | cladhaire | You're not asking to dsicuss it |
| 16:11.57 | cladhaire | you're asking for links to sites that will help you do it |
| 16:12.16 | Intangir | the blizzard ghestapo isnt going to get us on irc |
| 16:12.27 | cladhaire | Intangir: There's no negotiation here. |
| 16:12.27 | Lin | Intangir: who know? who knows? |
| 16:12.29 | cladhaire | period. |
| 16:12.35 | Intangir | OMG ITS A BLUE! RUUN! |
| 16:12.38 | Cairenn | Intangir: you are absolutely certain who is sitting in this channel, are you? |
| 16:12.41 | cladhaire | ~seen slouken |
| 16:12.45 | purl | slouken <n=slouken@ip68-5-37-254.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 10h 40m 56s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 16:12.46 | zenzelezz | I'd advice you to respect the rules, or you won't be given a chance to fight it |
| 16:12.50 | cladhaire | Intangir: Hrm, Very interesting |
| 16:12.55 | cladhaire | Blizzard was here two days ago |
| 16:12.55 | cladhaire | ass. |
| 16:12.58 | Intangir | it doesnt matter, even if blizz employees are in here, they cant ban us for talking about doing something in game, that we arent doing |
| 16:13.07 | cladhaire | Intangir: This is not a negotation, I say again |
| 16:13.09 | Cairenn | Intangir: as I already said |
| 16:13.09 | cladhaire | these are channel rules |
| 16:13.11 | Cairenn | as a purely hypothetical abstract concept, fine - otherwise, exactly what they've all said |
| 16:13.12 | cladhaire | I will enforce them |
| 16:13.16 | Cairenn | as will I |
| 16:13.29 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:13.32 | Lin | Intangir: giyf |
| 16:13.35 | Intangir | blizz employees, i have hacked, duped, botted and afk macroed for hundreds of hours |
| 16:13.40 | zenzelezz | Intangir: it's not a matter of being banned |
| 16:13.44 | Intangir | i willingly admit it, and i cant garentee i wont continue ;) |
| 16:13.48 | cladhaire | Intangir: final warning.. Stop now.. or enjoy a vacation. |
| 16:13.55 | zenzelezz | we have privileges thanks to the moral ethics in here |
| 16:14.00 | zenzelezz | disobeying them risks them |
| 16:14.01 | cladhaire | We're quite a nice crew in here |
| 16:14.11 | Tierrie | not me! ban ban ban ban! |
| 16:14.12 | cladhaire | but as I've said, some things are not up for negotiation |
| 16:14.19 | Intangir | so your going to ban me for talking about talking about something that blizz may possibly ban me for in game? |
| 16:14.23 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: I couldn't have put it any better myself. |
| 16:14.24 | Intangir | do you see how fucking absurd that is? |
| 16:14.30 | cladhaire | Intangir: No, I'm going to kickban you for being an asshat. |
| 16:14.35 | cladhaire | nothing more, nothing less |
| 16:14.36 | zenzelezz | Intangir: thank you, don't come again |
| 16:14.37 | Intangir | if this is the kind of bullshit totalitarian asshole bullshit your going to pull im in the wrong fucking channel anyway |
| 16:14.40 | Intangir | this isnt china |
| 16:14.46 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Intangir (i=Intangir@c-98-197-209-214.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 16:14.49 | zenzelezz | oh noes |
| 16:15.00 | Tierrie | 15 years of IRC |
| 16:15.06 | Tierrie | and people still think its a democracy |
| 16:15.07 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by cladhaire -> #wowi-lounge #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2.x ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821 | "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome." - Isaac Asimov | This IS China beyatch! |
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| 16:15.13 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 16:15.24 | zenzelezz | Tierrie: so true :) |
| 16:15.27 | |Pixel| | too bad this guy's US :P |
| 16:15.34 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2.x ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821| This IS China beyatch! |
| 16:15.41 | Lin | LOL! |
| 16:15.49 | sioraiocht | hey! I'm american =p |
| 16:15.54 | |Pixel| | nah, I mean |
| 16:15.57 | Lin | im not |
| 16:15.57 | sioraiocht | just because I've gone expat =p |
| 16:16.01 | Lin | im chinese |
| 16:16.04 | AnduinLothar | =D I have 426 spell dmg in my healing gear on ptr |
| 16:16.04 | |Pixel| | could check his account based on his IP... |
| 16:16.12 | sioraiocht | Lin: in china? |
| 16:16.14 | |Pixel| | would have been fun |
| 16:16.14 | cladhaire | He's PMing me to tell me how much of a dick i am |
| 16:16.22 | Lin | sioraiocht: no.. just joking |
| 16:16.26 | sioraiocht | |Pixel|: he's from texas |
| 16:16.26 | zenzelezz | AnduinLothar: nice, how much more is that than live? |
| 16:16.29 | sioraiocht | Lin: oh, lol |
| 16:16.34 | |Pixel| | cladhaire: /ignore is your friend |
| 16:16.36 | AnduinLothar | bout 200 |
| 16:16.46 | Cairenn | cladhaire: /ignore fucktard |
| 16:16.49 | sioraiocht | i msg'd him and told him it wasn't the republic of texas, either |
| 16:16.51 | sioraiocht | haha |
| 16:16.54 | sioraiocht | clad won't let it go |
| 16:17.00 | AnduinLothar | but it reset my tallents |
| 16:17.15 | AnduinLothar | so it'd be more with Holy GUidance |
| 16:17.26 | |Pixel| | what was he talking about anyway ? seeing opposite's faction messages ? |
| 16:17.27 | zenzelezz | that's a nice boost :) |
| 16:17.28 | cncfanatics | sioraiocht, I'm having a small issue with wine, ur a maintainer there right ? |
| 16:17.30 | Fisker- | hiiiiiiiiii |Pixel| |
| 16:17.41 | |Pixel| | hello Fisker- :P |
| 16:17.54 | sioraiocht | cncfanatics: no... |
| 16:18.01 | cncfanatics | hmmm, who was again then |
| 16:18.02 | Beladona | darnit, I missed the fun |
| 16:18.10 | sioraiocht | cncfanatics: sorry, I don't even use linux =/ |
| 16:18.17 | Lin | cncfanatics: which problem |
| 16:18.24 | Lin | i have solved a lot of problems yesterday |
| 16:18.27 | Lin | im glad to help |
| 16:18.34 | cncfanatics | wow often crashes after reloading the UI |
| 16:18.41 | cncfanatics | often being about 1/10th of the time |
| 16:18.52 | cncfanatics | complains about a bad window error |
| 16:18.52 | Cairenn | I think by now everyone knows that I have no problem with people discussing stuff in a hypothetical fashion, but I also hope you guys know, understand and agree with why I don't let people talk about stuff that goes against Blizz's rules in a practical application sense, right? |
| 16:19.16 | sioraiocht | Cairenn: do you see anyone (else) complaining? =p |
| 16:19.33 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, thats quite logical isn't it ? |
| 16:19.44 | Cairenn | sometimes someone like that gets going in here and I wonder if maybe I'm a little too dictatorial in my stance |
| 16:19.59 | cncfanatics | well, one could get info about private servers in this chan |
| 16:20.00 | Beladona | as an aside as well. when someone with channel powers tells you to do something, or not do something -- common sense dictates you listen. Not argue repeatedly until it is made into an issue |
| 16:20.03 | cncfanatics | which would be silly rly |
| 16:20.14 | art3mis | cncfanatics: its bleeter thats all in with the wine community |
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| 16:20.40 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, I'm 100% sure one could go setup a private server with the help of ppl in this chan :p |
| 16:20.45 | art3mis | oh and model haxxing is just lame |
| 16:20.51 | AnduinLothar | i have less spell dmg in my ret gear than my healing gear >.< |
| 16:21.06 | Beladona | AnduinLothar srsly? |
| 16:21.11 | AnduinLothar | on ptr |
| 16:21.17 | Cairenn | cncfanatics: undoubtedly there are people in here that could do it, but they wouldn't discuss the actuality of it in here |
| 16:21.23 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, AnduinLothar. But I understand why when you say it's on PTR. |
| 16:21.45 | Beladona | I have as much spell dmg on my resto shammy as a friend of mine who is elemental |
| 16:21.56 | AnduinLothar | my healing mace adds 100 spell dmg... |
| 16:21.58 | Beladona | but I am better geared so /shrug |
| 16:22.01 | cncfanatics | Cairenn, thet might if it was allowed to |
| 16:22.01 | art3mis | what is this thing called "private wow server"? |
| 16:22.09 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:22.22 | Cairenn | but it isn't, so the point is moot |
| 16:22.32 | cncfanatics | the point is, you shouldn't change ur stance, its fine :) |
| 16:22.48 | Beladona | I think its dead |
| 16:22.49 | Cairenn | ah, gotcha, wasn't following for a bit there |
| 16:22.51 | Beladona | stop beating it |
| 16:22.51 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 16:23.07 | Cairenn | but Beladona! |
| 16:23.09 | sioraiocht | can we talk about private EQ servers? =p my friend is obsessed with them now |
| 16:23.11 | Beladona | hehe |
| 16:23.31 | cncfanatics | you can talk about private RUNESCAPE servers :p |
| 16:23.48 | AnduinLothar | The prince healing ring now does 23 spell dmg and 12mp5 |
| 16:23.55 | AnduinLothar | might as well use that to dps.. |
| 16:24.04 | Beladona | I would rather talk about the migratorial habits of the cenarion hippogryph |
| 16:24.12 | sioraiocht | DAMN BEING STUCK IN A WIRED WORLD |
| 16:24.57 | zenzelezz | take it with you? |
| 16:24.59 | AnduinLothar | heh 3 peeps here by aldor bank with choppers |
| 16:25.08 | AnduinLothar | they're pretty awesome |
| 16:25.14 | Beladona | thank god I have an engy |
| 16:26.51 | AnduinLothar | oh nifty. new healing badge libram too |
| 16:26.59 | AnduinLothar | 22 mp5 from holy light for 10s |
| 16:27.00 | [melin] | problem.. my sis wants me to do her php/sql homework for her.. should I or should I tell her to do it herself and learn it at the same time? :D |
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| 16:27.43 | Lopeppeppy | AnduinLothar, is that really a lot? It's only a return of 44 mana, am I reading that correctly? (libram) |
| 16:27.46 | Lin | [melin]: dont spoon feed her |
| 16:28.06 | [melin] | Its hard not to :P Im a very careing brother (and protective :D) |
| 16:28.06 | AnduinLothar | it's not a ton, but it's better than the other librams |
| 16:28.36 | Lin | [melin]: doing this you will make your sis lazy, and she will not find a regular job. |
| 16:28.43 | AnduinLothar | wow, there's a LOT more badge gear |
| 16:28.44 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't judged it to be better than any of the straight healing librams. Way I see it, 44 mana is a tick off my Wisdom blessing, I could better use the slot for something with +heal. |
| 16:28.54 | sioraiocht | WHY is this freak talking to me? |
| 16:28.55 | Lin | or everyone will laugh on her about his programming abilities. |
| 16:29.09 | [melin] | Lin =) |
| 16:29.12 | zenzelezz | <[melin]> problem.. my sis wants me to do her <--- don't start sentences this way on IRC |
| 16:29.23 | AnduinLothar | I <3 mp5. I will take mp5 of +healing any day |
| 16:29.32 | [melin] | zenzelezz you've been out here far too long mate :D |
| 16:29.43 | AnduinLothar | my guild requires flasks to raid, so the less pots I have to buy the better |
| 16:29.44 | Lin | zenzelezz: I have read a worse, yesterday.. something as: |
| 16:29.53 | zenzelezz | [melin]: you've not see the half of it :) |
| 16:30.08 | [melin] | Ive been here (irc) since 1995.. Ive seen it all |
| 16:30.13 | Lin | Guys, I want to do configure FOOBAR but i dont want to read, please tell me what to do. |
| 16:30.16 | Lopeppeppy | I love my mp/5, don't get me wrong, it just doesn't make sense to swap out a low mp/5 for a more valuable +heal. I'd rather buy the more expensive mana oil that I can't make yet, and keep my libram. |
| 16:30.25 | Beladona | some of that badge gear makes me drool |
| 16:30.30 | Beladona | I am already saving up badges |
| 16:30.50 | art3mis | http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/news/2007/10/ps3_supercomputer |
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| 16:31.45 | AnduinLothar | i was gonna save up to 75 for the crit trinket, but i guess i have to get 2 of the librams first. and there's a bunch of new badge tanking gear |
| 16:32.15 | AnduinLothar | and a sexy pvp back for 60 |
| 16:32.16 | [melin] | oh christ.. their teacher havent even explained the differences between server-side and client-side languages.. brb - gonna slap a teacher |
| 16:32.28 | Beladona | I am pretty set on healing, but I am considering getting some elemental gear with badges too |
| 16:32.47 | cncfanatics | [melin] aint that quite self-explainative ? |
| 16:32.49 | Beladona | possibly even enhancement |
| 16:32.52 | Beladona | so many possibilities |
| 16:33.06 | [melin] | cncfanatics well.. not to people all new to web-dev. |
| 16:33.15 | AnduinLothar | the cloaks afor 60 are all nice |
| 16:33.30 | AnduinLothar | i need 3 of them >.< |
| 16:33.37 | Beladona | better than that Pure-hearted one from Prince? |
| 16:34.10 | AnduinLothar | they're pvp ones |
| 16:34.22 | AnduinLothar | but still pretty good for pve |
| 16:34.39 | Lin | [melin]: imho your sis isnt going to classes |
| 16:34.56 | [melin] | nah Ive seen their material that they have to work with |
| 16:35.07 | [melin] | it looks like the school picked some moron from the street to teach |
| 16:35.28 | AnduinLothar | it's liek the prince one with a tad less healing/mp5 and adding resiliance, and 30stam 15 int |
| 16:35.45 | Beladona | thats because most of the smart ones get paid better |
| 16:35.46 | Lin | [melin]: how can she supossed to know about PHP/Mysql and programming without to know about upload a file to a server, run, test, debug? and know about server runing/interpreting codes. And all those things |
| 16:36.11 | cncfanatics | [melin] if thats true the net is a better school |
| 16:36.16 | [melin] | no idea.. Im thinking moving down there and apply for a job |
| 16:36.25 | [melin] | yea.. I learned it all out there |
| 16:36.35 | [melin] | school taught me nothing on web-dev |
| 16:36.36 | cncfanatics | same here |
| 16:36.40 | Beladona | same |
| 16:36.41 | [melin] | forums, chats and so on - did |
| 16:36.45 | Lin | [melin]: there is a lot of stupid ppl around here. Being capable of something doenst make you suitable for a job. |
| 16:37.07 | [melin] | Lin Ive been a teacher =) maths, english, gym and swedish |
| 16:37.21 | Lin | swedish is the hardest thing |
| 16:37.27 | Lin | I could not be a swedish. |
| 16:37.29 | Lin | im brazilian |
| 16:37.45 | Lin | ive been a teacher too.. |
| 16:37.51 | Lin | but now im in corporate world |
| 16:37.52 | [melin] | Swedish is easy if youre a swede =) but I know.. its one of the hardest languages |
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| 16:38.17 | Lin | im studying german. i know isn't swedish.. but is nearer |
| 16:38.45 | AnduinLothar | I'm sad.... +crit on the human sword/mace racial is inferior to the +hit we got from skill points |
| 16:39.10 | cncfanatics | [melin]; go apply ? :p |
| 16:39.41 | [melin] | I should .. :D |
| 16:39.54 | cncfanatics | I think so :p |
| 16:39.55 | [melin] | its a great job too.. working with kids |
| 16:40.17 | cncfanatics | how old is ur sis anyway ? |
| 16:40.20 | [melin] | german is pretty close to swedish yea.. a lot of our language is based on german |
| 16:40.23 | [melin] | she's 16 |
| 16:40.36 | cncfanatics | getting web-dev at 16 ? :o |
| 16:40.44 | cncfanatics | we don't get any decent computer lessons here, at all |
| 16:40.50 | [melin] | this is sweden =) |
| 16:40.54 | Lin | hehehe |
| 16:41.08 | [melin] | we start with computer lessons at the age of 12-13 in some schools |
| 16:41.16 | Lin | in brazil at 25 you learn to program in UAL. a stupid meta language just for algorithms |
| 16:41.21 | [melin] | at the age of 16 some schools hand their students a laptop each |
| 16:41.21 | Lin | and its really stupid.. |
| 16:41.30 | [melin] | like the one my sis goes to |
| 16:42.04 | Lin | in brazilian college they didnt learn about data structures.. just simple programming. |
| 16:42.10 | [melin] | evil |
| 16:42.16 | Lin | just a few colleges teach data structure |
| 16:42.22 | [melin] | well.. sweden is one of the top notch countries on IT |
| 16:42.29 | [melin] | I have a 100Mb connection - at home.. |
| 16:42.53 | Lin | the students leave their classes thinking that bubble sort is a invention greater than wheel, and they are proud of it. |
| 16:42.56 | Lin | of know it. |
| 16:43.23 | Lopeppeppy | Well... at least they know something to be proud of? *shrug* Not all students bother to learn anything at all, must less be proud of it. |
| 16:43.29 | cncfanatics | [melin], cewl country |
| 16:43.33 | [melin] | cncfanatics sure is =) |
| 16:43.43 | Lin | 5 years to learn about a bubble sort. and Im not kidding. |
| 16:43.43 | [melin] | 7Mb connections to our cellphones and shit |
| 16:44.03 | [melin] | bubble? |
| 16:44.05 | Lin | everything and your sis dunno the difference beetween client and server side |
| 16:44.24 | [melin] | I blame the teacher - she knows the difference now - took me 2min to explain |
| 16:44.33 | cncfanatics | meh, there's not even unlimited bandwith on broadband here |
| 16:45.09 | AnduinLothar | wow, unbuffed my crit went up to 30%, prolly from the racial and new tallents |
| 16:46.04 | [melin] | AnduinLothar what class? |
| 16:46.09 | AnduinLothar | pally |
| 16:46.14 | AnduinLothar | it went up like 5% |
| 16:46.20 | [melin] | nice crit.. mine is 25% and Im hunter |
| 16:46.35 | Lin | as pally I have only 5.25% crit |
| 16:47.03 | cncfanatics | is that spell or melee crit ? |
| 16:47.05 | AnduinLothar | and that's not including the new talents that add crit for just seals or just judgements or on judge of crusader |
| 16:47.08 | AnduinLothar | melee |
| 16:47.12 | Lin | mine is melee |
| 16:47.36 | sag_ich_nicht | hi AnduinLothar. |
| 16:47.45 | AnduinLothar | sag is happy i bet |
| 16:47.48 | AnduinLothar | no more whining outa u |
| 16:47.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 16:47.49 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 16:47.51 | sag_ich_nicht | they stole our hit |
| 16:47.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 16:48.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it's going to be all miss miss miss again |
| 16:48.06 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
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| 16:48.15 | AnduinLothar | yeah, w/e. small price to pay for all the buffs and threat redux |
| 16:48.30 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 16:48.32 | AnduinLothar | I'll just put 2 points in precision i guess |
| 16:48.47 | AnduinLothar | since i'm at 6.15% w/o it |
| 16:48.50 | [melin] | AnduinLothar what name and realm are you on? (eu or us?) |
| 16:48.59 | AnduinLothar | ptr? |
| 16:49.03 | AnduinLothar | pve |
| 16:49.08 | AnduinLothar | Retwraith |
| 16:49.16 | AnduinLothar | us |
| 16:49.39 | [melin] | ah.. whats the url to yer armory? |
| 16:49.53 | AnduinLothar | i logged in holy gear |
| 16:49.59 | |Jelly| | Stalker. |
| 16:50.32 | Shirik|Ecole | Heh. On the whiteboard of the room I'm in, someone wrote "The cake is a lie. The cake is a lie. The cake is a lie." |
| 16:50.41 | Shirik|Ecole | Underneath it in another color, someone else wrote "The pi is the truth." |
| 16:51.00 | Shirik|Ecole | beauty of an engineering school >< |
| 16:51.24 | Lin | oh! >.< |
| 16:52.20 | [melin] | AnduinLothar ah.. well.. whats the url anyway - need it for a small project Ive been working on >> http://warmag.net/otano@argent%20dawn.jpg |
| 16:52.30 | [melin] | so far it only supports the eu realms |
| 16:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | Argent Dawn rules, in small ways.... |
| 16:53.09 | [melin] | =) |
| 16:53.25 | [melin] | Ive been there since 2005.. and cant move to anything but pve or other rp realms.. so Im stuck |
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| 16:54.20 | Lopeppeppy | i'm on the US one, myself. Been tempted to move to another PvE realm, but never have. |
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| 16:57.14 | [melin] | well.. there are loads of asshats on the RP realms.. I can only imagine there be more of them on the pve ones :D |
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| 16:57.34 | cncfanatics | [melin], reroll on a pvp realm ? :p |
| 16:57.49 | [melin] | I tried.. but I just cant focus on other chars than my main :D |
| 16:58.25 | art3mis | "why does outlook keep saying that its trying to contact the exchange server all the time?" "do you keep pressing send and recieve?" "no" *logs in and watches her do it through VNC* "yes you do i just saw you" "well I.." "don't lie to me if you expect me to solve problems, send and recieve is NOT an exchange function and bags the server" "oh" "and if you stop dooing that youll stop having the error" "oh" |
| 16:58.58 | art3mis | i need to kill these people before their stupidity spreads i think |
| 16:59.07 | art3mis | thank god they're lesbians |
| 16:59.17 | art3mis | no actual genetic transferance |
| 16:59.51 | |Jelly| | Send them your HKUI. They're bound to take care of themselves for you. |
| 16:59.56 | art3mis | ooo found a radiant talesite plan, farming spiders for silk |
| 17:00.48 | [melin] | remove the safetytags from products - let the problem solve itself? |
| 17:01.04 | |Jelly| | [melin] Couldn't agree more. |
| 17:01.52 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:01.53 | [melin] | art3mis what is a spider doing with a radiant talesite plan? |
| 17:01.53 | art3mis | i bought you a xmas gift.. oo what is it.. a plastic bag and a coat hanger.. what do i do with these? be creative and safe ;P |
| 17:01.54 | [melin] | more important.. where did bears learn how to balance a glass of milk in their stomach? |
| 17:02.09 | art3mis | [melin]: i dunno but i retrieved it |
| 17:02.19 | [melin] | well the spider didnt need it anymore so =) |
| 17:02.26 | art3mis | [melin]: and bears have been doing that in russia for years |
| 17:02.45 | [melin] | I blame Tjernobyl |
| 17:03.21 | art3mis | in solviet russia milk balances you! |
| 17:03.23 | [melin] | hmm.. if I drop say dragonscale lw for tribal.. do I drop in LW points or just lose the special skills for dragonscale? |
| 17:03.58 | art3mis | you drop down to the level or the choice i think |
| 17:04.04 | art3mis | as though you never had it |
| 17:04.20 | [melin] | as in.. down to 275 LW?? |
| 17:04.39 | art3mis | whatever it was when the choice/path/branch is available |
| 17:04.57 | [melin] | ouch |
| 17:05.15 | art3mis | quote from my wife at her office "the computer lady comes around the corner and yells "WHO TURNED THE AC OFF IN THE SERVER ROOM?"" |
| 17:05.16 | foxlit | " WTT soul for patch 2.3 [Page: 1 . 2]" |
| 17:05.29 | art3mis | someone says "I did....the door was open and really really cold air was coming out....I was freezing!" |
| 17:05.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh...gods... art3mis. *laugh* |
| 17:05.42 | art3mis | "YOU WILL CLOSE THE DOOR NEXT TIME...NOT TURN IT OFF....YOU GOT THAT?!?" |
| 17:05.52 | [melin] | *laughs* |
| 17:05.55 | art3mis | man some people |
| 17:06.07 | Cairenn | duh, don't turn off the AC in the server room!!! |
| 17:06.09 | foxlit | And a blizzard rep with a "Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out." signature |
| 17:06.12 | art3mis | i'd always heard stories but this is the closest to the real thing ive been |
| 17:06.38 | Lopeppeppy | No one who doesn't know what a server room is, should work within a hundred yards of one. And why was the room door open in the first place, that's what I want to know! |
| 17:06.45 | [melin] | back in the days.. my brother thought we should by a "color card" instead of a color monitor - cause it would be cheaper |
| 17:07.02 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 17:07.14 | art3mis | i miss my old ibm black and white vga |
| 17:07.35 | [melin] | heh.. I miss my old monochrome one that sounded like a nuclear plant |
| 17:07.53 | [melin] | keyboard the size of an airfield.. needed a hammer to use it |
| 17:08.01 | art3mis | the one where when i booted up i had to open a dos gif viewer in order to trigger the tsr driver for the card to make it display in vesa |
| 17:08.06 | Cairenn | how hard is it though, even as a stupid non computer person, to figure out that if one computer gives off so much heat that you can use it as a foot warmer in the winter, just how much heat an entire room full of them will create? I mean, come on |
| 17:08.57 | art3mis | cairenn: quite a few |
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| 17:09.16 | [melin] | Cairenn - some people.. my father-in-law called me yesterday and wondered which CD was the recover disc.. and I said "number one - why?" "I have got a trojan and the guy at the store said its impossible to remove them" - I went over and 2min later it was gone |
| 17:09.19 | art3mis | didnt you read that story about the NY bank over labour day? |
| 17:09.35 | Cairenn | [melin]: oy |
| 17:09.39 | Cairenn | art3mis: no |
| 17:09.52 | art3mis | soemone from the office thought they'd save the company money by shutting off the server room AC over the long weekend |
| 17:09.58 | Cairenn | oh shit |
| 17:10.00 | [melin] | the funny thing is - the store - where he bought the laptop - that also had gotten the trojan.. had restored all their computers :D |
| 17:10.09 | art3mis | fried 16 servers, 9 they had to send out for professional data recover |
| 17:10.18 | [melin] | "save some money" :D |
| 17:10.31 | [melin] | I have a 230V fan going in my computer case.. its damn cool |
| 17:10.36 | Cairenn | hubby would be absolutely frothing at the mouth if someone did that to his servers |
| 17:10.43 | art3mis | hehe most nerds would be |
| 17:10.59 | Lopeppeppy | I froth at the idea, and I don't own a server room. |
| 17:11.12 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 17:11.20 | [melin] | heard about the girlfriend who played on her boy's XBOX - thought it made too much sound and wrapped in a blanket |
| 17:11.34 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.34 | [melin] | wrapped it in** |
| 17:11.52 | Cairenn | an xbox isn't comparable to a server room though |
| 17:11.58 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, how cuddly for the xbox. *rolls eyes* |
| 17:11.58 | [melin] | the result was =) |
| 17:12.03 | cog|work | Cairenn: no... it's much more likely to catch fire |
| 17:12.04 | zenzelezz | it weighs about as much |
| 17:12.05 | [melin] | the xbox caught fire |
| 17:12.24 | Cairenn | eep |
| 17:12.40 | [melin] | a friend tossed his Ericsson cellphone in the lake when he was pissed.. he went back 2 days later and got it back up - it still worked |
| 17:13.14 | [melin] | I cant even look at my cellphone before it breaks :( |
| 17:13.25 | [melin] | I think it hates me |
| 17:13.33 | cncfanatics | [melin] it still worked ? |
| 17:13.33 | cncfanatics | wth did he do to it ? |
| 17:13.37 | cncfanatics | or does he have a waterproof celphone lol? |
| 17:13.44 | [melin] | nope.. normal nerd phone.. |
| 17:13.52 | Cairenn | turn off the camera portion [melin]? |
| 17:14.02 | Lopeppeppy | My personal cell phone lasts through anything. I used to kill the work phones in the bathroom by having them fall in the sink when I washed my hands. |
| 17:14.19 | buu | [melin]: How the hell did he find it again? |
| 17:14.28 | Cairenn | buu: that was my thought, too |
| 17:14.34 | [melin] | it wasnt that deep down.. and he saw the blinking indicator |
| 17:14.55 | buu | That boggles the mind. |
| 17:15.00 | AnduinLothar | prolly not 'thrown' then, eh? |
| 17:15.10 | [melin] | thrown - but not very good :P |
| 17:15.13 | art3mis | he called it and a nice flounder brought it up for him |
| 17:15.20 | [melin] | and I guess it depends on how far from the lake he was |
| 17:15.38 | art3mis | did you tell him that if he can throw his clel phone and be able to find it in a lake later on that he throws like a girl? |
| 17:15.49 | art3mis | and probably shouldt have a fit like that in public again? |
| 17:16.10 | [melin] | nope.. but we told him to sell the story to Ericsson - so they could use it as commercial =) |
| 17:17.05 | [melin] | aaanyway... Im gonna draw some leafs and stuff and see if I can make a druid skin for WoW (girlfriend is druid) |
| 17:17.17 | Omni_ | Sorry to interupt, but I'm working on an addon and I'm a bit new to LUA and scripting in general... I'd really appreciate some help if anyone has time |
| 17:17.17 | Shirik|Ecole | ~lart Omni_ |
| 17:17.17 | purl | eats Omni_ and falls over dead |
| 17:17.17 | Shirik|Ecole | Lua is not an acronym |
| 17:17.26 | Omni_ | O.o |
| 17:17.36 | [melin] | Omni_ dont ask to ask - just ask |
| 17:17.46 | art3mis | "hi my names joe and i have whiny fits like a 10 year old, one day i threw it into the lake cuz i was mad, but thankfully because i throw like a girl it was easy to find. and still worked!" ? |
| 17:18.04 | Cidan | Omni_: http://www.conspiracy-ui.com/lua |
| 17:18.13 | Cidan | A mini tutorial I wrote on working with Lua |
| 17:18.17 | Cidan | in WoW, anyways |
| 17:18.24 | [melin] | wowwiki.com - have loads |
| 17:19.00 | Cidan | I cite wowwiki.com, but I wrote mine in a way that is easy for newbies to understand. |
| 17:19.51 | [melin] | yea it was very nicely written |
| 17:19.51 | foxlit | "To comment a line (like C++, VB, etc) you type --" |
| 17:20.19 | [melin] | actually.. you comment VB with ' |
| 17:20.26 | [melin] | =) |
| 17:20.27 | Cidan | re-read. |
| 17:20.27 | Omni_ | I'm somewhat familar to Lua and I've written a few addons before but this is a bit different from what that... just a (hopefully) simple addon that will add an enemy target's name and class to a list, so that anytime at the beginning of an arena I can have it scan the list and spam ignores on all the lists |
| 17:20.36 | foxlit | [melin]: Rem, you insensitive clod! |
| 17:20.44 | Cidan | l2read english |
| 17:21.05 | foxlit | Cidan: that parenthesis doesn't really belong there. |
| 17:21.09 | [melin] | Omni_ you'd only need the name really.. since names are unique |
| 17:21.29 | Omni_ | if the ignore suceeds it says the name and class in /battleground and unignores them |
| 17:21.33 | Cidan | foxlit: YOUR parenthesis don't belong... there. |
| 17:21.35 | Cidan | or something |
| 17:21.43 | [melin] | why you wanna ignore all players in an arena? |
| 17:21.45 | foxlit | Cidan: fix it! fix it now! |
| 17:21.57 | foxlit | [melin]: it'd error out if they're not in the arena |
| 17:22.03 | Omni_ | so I know who I'm going against before the arena starts |
| 17:22.08 | Omni_ | I know that |
| 17:22.08 | foxlit | So it's a very abusive way of determining who your opponent is |
| 17:22.21 | [melin] | ah |
| 17:22.33 | foxlit | Omni_: that's pretty evil :) |
| 17:22.42 | Omni_ | I already have the bulk written, but I was using premade databases of everyone in my battlegroup between 1650 and 2100 ratings >< |
| 17:22.52 | foxlit | And what's more, it requires a sever interaction, so blizzard can easily ban you retroactively |
| 17:22.53 | Omni_ | needless to say it would work for .5 seconds then d/c me |
| 17:23.30 | [melin] | you'd need to stack them in groups of like 50 or 100 and add small breaks between each "scan" |
| 17:23.36 | buu | Are there any basic tutorials for drawing 'windowing toolkit' UI elements? Things like, buttons and textinput fields and so forth. |
| 17:23.51 | [melin] | buu Wowwiki.com |
| 17:24.00 | art3mis | must remember to install pricing on tooltip addon |
| 17:24.05 | buu | [melin]: ... |
| 17:24.07 | [melin] | raidtime - bbl |
| 17:24.09 | buu | [melin]: Fail. |
| 17:24.13 | art3mis | or update auctioneer and start scanning |
| 17:24.34 | Omni_ | Well instead of doing that I'd rather just have it add names to a list and just use that smaller list each time |
| 17:24.48 | Omni_ | I don't plan on saving the list between sessions |
| 17:25.03 | Omni_ | I'm not familiar with tables though, so I have no idea how to go about it =/ |
| 17:29.55 | Beladona | sorry, was at lunch. just saw the talk about servers |
| 17:30.07 | Beladona | that is why I restrict access to the server room |
| 17:30.36 | Cairenn | for some reason the door to the room was open (boggle) |
| 17:30.54 | Beladona | my boss never understood why AC was so important, so I set up a bunch of systems in a small room with no ventilation, and a few hours later told him to go in there |
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| 17:31.05 | Beladona | he doesn't bug me about it anymore |
| 17:31.32 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 17:31.51 | Omni_ | Anyone have a link to anything related to data structures in lua? |
| 17:32.08 | zenzelezz | in before the ~pil |
| 17:32.27 | cncfanatics | Omni_, they couldn't ban him |
| 17:32.38 | cncfanatics | everything u can do with lua is not bannable except a very few exceptions |
| 17:32.38 | Beladona | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 17:33.24 | Beladona | Omni_: specifically http://www.lua.org/pil/11.html |
| 17:33.34 | Omni_ | Thanks, I'll check that out |
| 17:34.12 | art3mis | heh |
| 17:34.38 | art3mis | wife: "okay my day is now complete, i just rode down the elevator with jake gyllenhaa" |
| 17:34.51 | sioraiocht | ooh, has anyone here ever written a hidden markov model in lua? |
| 17:35.07 | zenzelezz | who? |
| 17:35.18 | art3mis | l |
| 17:35.21 | art3mis | cut the L |
| 17:35.21 | sioraiocht | just kidding |
| 17:35.35 | art3mis | sioraiocht: i have |
| 17:35.46 | art3mis | if by markov model you mean hello world ;P |
| 17:35.54 | Beladona | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Markov_model |
| 17:36.05 | sioraiocht | art3mis: did you find it straightforward? I have to write a POS tagger and I was wondering if lua wa sa good language for it |
| 17:36.21 | sioraiocht | as my usual fallback (Haskell) doesn't lend itself to that sort of stuff |
| 17:37.47 | art3mis | nah Haskell is only good with Cleaver introductions, i find that if you use the Danza hypothesis youll end up with a more laid back approach. |
| 17:38.10 | sioraiocht | you just made those things up |
| 17:38.25 | art3mis | only cuz you missed my hello world comment ;P |
| 17:38.28 | sioraiocht | I'm clearly asking the wrong channel =p |
| 17:38.32 | sioraiocht | ....oh |
| 17:38.32 | sioraiocht | heheh |
| 17:38.45 | sioraiocht | I would ask #lua..but I like you guys better |
| 17:38.52 | art3mis | its not the wrong channel |
| 17:38.55 | art3mis | just the wrong time |
| 17:38.57 | sioraiocht | heheh |
| 17:39.02 | art3mis | shirik is the math nerd |
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| 17:46.52 | dylanm | sioraiocht: I've written up some Markov stuff for my research group in ruby... it wasn't the most fun I've ever had but I'm not sure that it's all that unclear as to how to do it in any language... care to elaborate? |
| 17:47.33 | dylanm | I'm more of a topologist so I kinda hate this stuff to begin with. |
| 17:47.51 | sioraiocht | lol it's for a part of speech tagger |
| 17:49.24 | Beladona | zomg, Apple is coming out with an iPhone SDK. Guess they are gonna let 3rd party apps go |
| 17:49.30 | Omni_ | #nick > Omni_ < |
| 17:49.30 | Beladona | woot |
| 17:49.39 | dylanm | Beladona: They had to do that at some point. |
| 17:49.47 | Beladona | the outcry was big |
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| 17:56.46 | sioraiocht | gd kernel panic |
| 17:57.58 | Fisker- | don't panic |
| 17:58.13 | Beladona | wdn is updated again |
| 17:58.17 | Beladona | with the right ptr files |
| 17:58.43 | Fisker- | wdn? |
| 17:58.52 | Tem | the cake is alie! |
| 17:58.55 | Fisker- | Whale Defying Nets? |
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| 18:00.13 | Lunessa | STATION! |
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| 18:01.32 | Beladona | ~wdn |
| 18:01.32 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 18:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2366704797&postId=24689950178&sid=1#0 <-- can anyone reproduce that for me on the PTR? |
| 18:02.57 | ScytheBlade1 | If you can, give it a bump please |
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| 18:09.57 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/0307382/FrameXML/CoinPickupFrame.lua |
| 18:10.00 | Beladona | line 217 |
| 18:10.45 | Thunder_Child | "The min range on ranged attacks will be reduced to eliminate the "dead zone". It doesn't mean that you'll be able to shot at 0 yards, but you will always be able to hit the enemy even if he's standing between 5 and 8 yards." |
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| 18:14.29 | art3mis | boooo |
| 18:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | What about 217? |
| 18:15.11 | art3mis | "changed fear so that it doesnt suffer diminishing effects on mobs, also reduced the coldown for priests to 3 seconds" |
| 18:15.55 | Beladona | table expected, got nil is referring to next in that for statement |
| 18:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 18:17.06 | Beladona | I can only assume it was supposed to be for key in next(this.down) do |
| 18:17.15 | Beladona | maybe? |
| 18:18.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to read the entire file to get the context :P |
| 18:19.41 | zenzelezz | think it's "this.down"? |
| 18:20.51 | Beladona | doing a hook to find out |
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| 18:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, whoops |
| 18:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I just formatted a 600MB ramdisk as NTFS... and it turns out that mkfs.ntfs wipes the drive with 0s as it formats |
| 18:26.18 | ScytheBlade1 | So I ran out of RAM, and WoW crashed :( |
| 18:26.30 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:27.29 | ScytheBlade1 | On the flip side |
| 18:27.45 | ScytheBlade1 | An iSCSI based RAM drive on another computer is stupidly fast |
| 18:30.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, it seems that it killed several random processes |
| 18:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | brb |
| 18:33.07 | art3mis | so where does the headless horseman spawn btw? anyone know |
| 18:33.19 | Thunder_Child | graveyard |
| 18:33.21 | Thunder_Child | SM |
| 18:33.23 | Cidan | sm |
| 18:33.23 | Cidan | :D |
| 18:33.26 | Lopeppeppy | So I hear! |
| 18:33.35 | art3mis | gonna go over and idle there |
| 18:33.36 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:33.43 | Cidan | Hey baby, wanna see MY headless horseman? |
| 18:33.45 | Thunder_Child | it's a 5-man |
| 18:33.45 | Cidan | er wait |
| 18:33.46 | Cidan | fuck |
| 18:33.50 | Cidan | that didn't sound right |
| 18:33.51 | art3mis | i know |
| 18:33.52 | Thunder_Child | lol Cidan |
| 18:33.58 | art3mis | but i'd like to know when he's up ;P |
| 18:34.04 | Cidan | Oh don't worry |
| 18:34.08 | Cidan | You'll know... |
| 18:34.10 | Cidan | *wink* |
| 18:34.12 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, we have our new topic "(Cidan) Hey baby, wanna see MY headless horseman?" |
| 18:34.13 | art3mis | sicne hes gonna be farmed to hell and back because of his gear and mounts |
| 18:34.15 | Cidan | Okay, I'll stop. |
| 18:34.35 | art3mis | cidan: doctor a bit over zealous with the circumcision? |
| 18:34.45 | Cidan | Psh |
| 18:34.46 | Cidan | I'm uncut |
| 18:34.47 | Cidan | :P |
| 18:34.57 | Cidan | Wouldn't trade my wanker for the world. |
| 18:35.11 | art3mis | so really he's nota headless horseman so much as a turtle |
| 18:35.18 | Cidan | *snap* |
| 18:35.36 | art3mis | if it was a snapping turtle i'd be concerned ;P |
| 18:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | But he's in an instance, so that he can't be camped -- you can go get him whenever, and be guaranteed he's there. |
| 18:35.57 | Cidan | I'm really anti circumcision, :P |
| 18:36.03 | art3mis | oh yeah |
| 18:36.16 | cncfanatics | anyone with some java experience here ? i'm having a weird issue |
| 18:36.21 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: i immediately thought of the outside cemetary not the inside one |
| 18:36.21 | Cidan | cncfanatics: yes? |
| 18:36.51 | art3mis | and that all starts tomorrow right? |
| 18:37.00 | cncfanatics | why does this always fall back to the last else ? even when typing A, B, C or D in the input box |
| 18:37.00 | cncfanatics | http://pastey.net/75435 |
| 18:37.37 | cncfanatics | Cidan, got an idea ? i'm lost |
| 18:37.44 | Cidan | jesus |
| 18:37.46 | Cidan | christ |
| 18:37.47 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:37.50 | Cidan | use else if |
| 18:37.55 | art3mis | so blizz actually banned that rogue for selling it eh |
| 18:37.55 | Cidan | not else { if |
| 18:38.08 | Cidan | holy un needed nesting |
| 18:38.20 | art3mis | wholey |
| 18:38.36 | Cidan | if (test) |
| 18:38.38 | Cidan | { |
| 18:38.40 | Cidan | code |
| 18:38.43 | Thunder_Child | ~lart art3mis |
| 18:38.43 | purl | beats art3mis to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 18:38.53 | Cidan | } else if (test) |
| 18:38.54 | Cidan | { |
| 18:38.56 | Cidan | code |
| 18:38.59 | cncfanatics | Cidan, can't be the error though, shldnt matter |
| 18:39.01 | Cidan | } else if (test) |
| 18:39.22 | art3mis | wow Tourguide is amazing |
| 18:39.23 | Cidan | just trust me on this, for the sake of sanity, change that, :P |
| 18:39.49 | cncfanatics | changed |
| 18:39.59 | cncfanatics | didn't know u cld ignore the {} for else statements |
| 18:40.25 | Cidan | next |
| 18:40.39 | Cidan | if ever something defaults to the last part of an if/else |
| 18:40.45 | Cidan | when it's not supposed to |
| 18:40.49 | Cidan | your input is wrong |
| 18:41.02 | Cidan | write debug code to output/echo your input back to you |
| 18:41.09 | Cidan | so you can see what strInput really is |
| 18:41.45 | cncfanatics | strInput seems to be a |
| 18:41.53 | cncfanatics | at least thats what the last else says |
| 18:42.15 | Cidan | ["a"] |
| 18:42.18 | Cidan | I take it? |
| 18:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | Art3mis, I *really* hope it's the instance cemetary.... |
| 18:42.36 | cncfanatics | [a] it says |
| 18:42.52 | Cidan | er right, hmm |
| 18:42.56 | cncfanatics | and i'm wondering why |
| 18:42.58 | Cidan | okay, so that is a bit odd |
| 18:43.02 | art3mis | Lopeppeppy: to be fair though fi its instance thats rather stupid of blizz |
| 18:43.17 | art3mis | since you could farm the crap out of it even on a rare load |
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| 18:43.26 | cncfanatics | Cidan, my code looks right to me -.- |
| 18:43.28 | Cidan | try |
| 18:43.42 | Cidan | strInput.equals("a"); |
| 18:44.19 | Cidan | as == isn't really meant for strings |
| 18:44.44 | Beladona | line 217 of CoinPickupFrame just needs an if check for this.down because it doesn't exist until you enter something |
| 18:44.54 | Beladona | otherwise it is fine |
| 18:45.16 | cncfanatics | wirjs |
| 18:45.21 | Cidan | :D |
| 18:45.22 | cncfanatics | works* |
| 18:45.24 | cncfanatics | thanks Cidan |
| 18:45.27 | Cidan | yeppers |
| 18:45.31 | cncfanatics | now why did the idiot teacher never mention that ? |
| 18:45.37 | Cidan | because he's an idiot |
| 18:45.45 | Cidan | you're not supposed to use == with strings |
| 18:45.54 | cncfanatics | ok, noted |
| 18:45.55 | Cidan | because you're comparing the string object |
| 18:45.58 | Cidan | and not the string it self |
| 18:46.05 | cncfanatics | I supose its because they're actualy objects and not "pure " types |
| 18:46.09 | cncfanatics | damn u beat me to it |
| 18:46.19 | Cidan | yeah, they aren't memory pointers to the string directly |
| 18:46.25 | Cidan | it's not like c/cpp |
| 18:46.56 | cncfanatics | they're an object containing an array of chars internaly I supose ? |
| 18:47.13 | Cidan | yes, but with an inherited class |
| 18:47.17 | Cidan | String, :P |
| 18:47.24 | cncfanatics | bit lame :p |
| 18:47.30 | Cidan | sorta, but it works well |
| 18:47.43 | Cidan | Java isn't TOO bad |
| 18:47.56 | Cidan | I just hate how it's the program of choice in most schools now |
| 18:47.59 | Cidan | it's a baby language |
| 18:48.08 | Cidan | teach ASM, hard core ASM, and then C |
| 18:48.10 | Cidan | and be done with it |
| 18:48.14 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 18:48.22 | cncfanatics | well, I already know php well, lua well and some C |
| 18:48.39 | cncfanatics | just chose java because it was that or spanish, german or maths |
| 18:48.45 | Cidan | managed languages are the devil |
| 18:48.57 | cncfanatics | I like lua :) |
| 18:49.05 | cncfanatics | but well, lua ain't rly managed, even though its in a sandbox |
| 18:49.43 | Cidan | sure it is |
| 18:49.56 | Cidan | last time I checked you don't have to allocate memory |
| 18:49.59 | Cidan | nor free it |
| 18:50.07 | cncfanatics | aah, u mean that :) |
| 18:50.41 | cncfanatics | I actualy think of assigning & freeing memory as a damn big & anoying hassle :) |
| 18:50.57 | cncfanatics | btw, ain't the java way of comparing strings stupidly inefficient ? |
| 18:51.08 | cncfanatics | you have an input class that contains an array of chars internaly |
| 18:51.17 | cncfanatics | you have another input class that contains the same array of chars internaly |
| 18:53.48 | Thunder_Child | nothing is perfect |
| 18:54.34 | Lunessa | Wait. I'm perfect. |
| 18:54.45 | krka | i actually use == for strings in java |
| 18:54.53 | Lunessa | Perfect waste of space/air/a soul/etc. |
| 18:55.18 | Thunder_Child | cute... |
| 18:55.55 | krka | then again, i like interning strings |
| 18:56.15 | Cidan | you can compare two string objects to each other, str == str2 |
| 18:56.31 | Cidan | but comparing a string object to a constant is a no no |
| 18:56.44 | Cidan | You will not get the desired results |
| 18:57.28 | Lunessa | Indeed, you will not. |
| 18:57.50 | cncfanatics | ehm, comparing two strings object to eachother will only return true if they're the same object right ? |
| 18:57.59 | Cidan | good question |
| 18:58.03 | Cidan | not sure tbh |
| 18:58.20 | Cidan | I think it may return true if string it self is the same |
| 18:58.23 | cncfanatics | I tried |
| 18:58.25 | cncfanatics | it didn't |
| 18:58.28 | Cidan | then there you go |
| 18:58.29 | Cidan | :D |
| 18:58.34 | cncfanatics | I did strA = "A"; |
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| 18:58.39 | cncfanatics | and then compare strA with strInput |
| 18:58.40 | cncfanatics | false |
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| 18:59.18 | cncfanatics | and btw , why are Strings half supported in java ? its silly |
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| 18:59.28 | cncfanatics | either make them pure types or totaly unpure types but not a damn hybrid of both |
| 18:59.34 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:00.28 | Cidan | deleting everything off my laptop, switching to Ubuntu on it as well, mm |
| 19:00.34 | Cidan | a life without windows, this will be good. |
| 19:01.10 | cncfanatics | hehe, you too ? :) |
| 19:01.15 | cncfanatics | I prefer debian to ubuntu though |
| 19:01.34 | Cidan | well I'm deletin Vista off my desktop and laptop |
| 19:01.41 | cncfanatics | good thing |
| 19:01.45 | cncfanatics | I never even installed it :) |
| 19:01.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Linux ksb 2.6.23.1 #2 SMP Wed Oct 17 12:45:52 MDT 2007 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 19:01.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 19:01.48 | Thunder_Child | i prefer OS's i can play games on natively |
| 19:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.50 | ScytheBlade1 | /cry |
| 19:01.51 | kadrahil | my desktop is running ubuntu, laptop is a macbook pro with dual booting osx and xp |
| 19:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | 13 minutes :( |
| 19:01.53 | kadrahil | :O |
| 19:02.02 | Cidan | if I *really* need Windows |
| 19:02.04 | Cidan | I can use a VM |
| 19:02.10 | cncfanatics | Cidan, lil question though |
| 19:02.17 | cncfanatics | why do I get this when I try to run my java file on linux |
| 19:02.18 | Cidan | hm? |
| 19:02.21 | cncfanatics | (works fine on my dad's windows) |
| 19:02.25 | Cidan | version |
| 19:02.26 | Cidan | :P |
| 19:02.29 | Cidan | wrong java version |
| 19:02.39 | Cidan | on the linux system |
| 19:02.57 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 19:03.21 | cncfanatics | http://pastey.net/75436 |
| 19:04.08 | Cidan | see previous statement |
| 19:04.09 | Cidan | :P |
| 19:04.37 | Cidan | is oef13 yours? |
| 19:04.38 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 19:04.46 | cncfanatics | thats the pastey I showed u |
| 19:04.49 | cncfanatics | its called Oef13 |
| 19:05.00 | cncfanatics | runs fine on win |
| 19:05.21 | Cidan | version is likely, but, make sure you have the right java installed |
| 19:05.26 | Cidan | using apt |
| 19:05.33 | Cidan | apt-cache search java | less |
| 19:05.34 | cncfanatics | ya |
| 19:05.37 | Thunder_Child | hmm..looks like cyCircled got broke |
| 19:06.46 | cncfanatics | sun-java5-jdk is installed |
| 19:06.53 | cncfanatics | but its gij thats on the java command for some reason |
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| 19:07.05 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 19:07.07 | cncfanatics | java version "1.5.0" gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.2.3 20071011 (prerelease) (Debian 4.2.2-2) |
| 19:07.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i might have found a bug in the paladin mechanics and seal of the crusader |
| 19:07.46 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:07.47 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 19:07.48 | sag_ich_nicht | apparently |
| 19:08.31 | sag_ich_nicht | when you activate seal of the crusader during a swing, the swing is shortened, but activating a different seal won't remove this speed up |
| 19:08.37 | Cidan | cncfanatics: get the jre as well |
| 19:08.55 | cncfanatics | got it ofc |
| 19:09.18 | cncfanatics | but I wonder why gij is taking the java executable :p |
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| 19:09.33 | Cidan | reinstall it? apt-get remove --purge sun-java5* |
| 19:09.42 | Cidan | and reinstall |
| 19:10.09 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe i'm imagining it, but i doubt it |
| 19:10.41 | Cidan | so I heard in 2.3 Paladins do much more damage |
| 19:10.45 | Cidan | that's so awesome |
| 19:10.54 | Cidan | raiding will be so much better now with more DPS |
| 19:10.57 | cncfanatics | ok I get it |
| 19:11.09 | cncfanatics | gij , damn piece of crap |
| 19:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | apparently, the paladin swingtimer is exploitable |
| 19:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 19:11.27 | cncfanatics | is it ? :o |
| 19:11.33 | Lunessa | ~lart |jelly| |
| 19:11.33 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down |jelly|'s throat until |jelly| puts on 150lbs |
| 19:12.11 | |Jelly| | What'd I do? |
| 19:12.28 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: go and test it, it seems activating SotC shortens the swingtimer, but switching to a different seal won't increase the swingtimer again for the current swing |
| 19:13.19 | Thunder_Child | you didnt have to do anything...it's simply you |
| 19:13.20 | Lunessa | I'm just giving you the lart for the illegal comment |
| 19:13.39 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, that sounds highly expoitable and cheap with rank 1 |
| 19:13.43 | cncfanatics | Cidan |
| 19:13.46 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics: yes. |
| 19:13.54 | cncfanatics | little question, echo $CLASSPATH shouldn't be empty should it ? |
| 19:13.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not sure if it's true tho |
| 19:13.58 | |Jelly| | Illegal comment? Me? Never. |
| 19:14.05 | sag_ich_nicht | or if i'm just imagining things |
| 19:14.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i need someone to test it more :X |
| 19:14.53 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: :P |
| 19:15.15 | |Jelly| | *shrug* |
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| 19:21.52 | Thunder_Child | does aimed shot have a variable cooldown? |
| 19:22.23 | TS|Skrom | no |
| 19:22.29 | Cide | yes it does |
| 19:22.35 | Cide | it depends on the speed of your weapon |
| 19:22.40 | TS|Skrom | QQ |
| 19:22.40 | Cide | unless that was recently changed |
| 19:22.45 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok |
| 19:23.07 | Thunder_Child | i was trying to figure out why i had such an unusual cooldown number |
| 19:23.25 | TS|Skrom | sorry if I'm being obtuse, and I've not really used it much since they changed hunters with 2.0 but wowhead lists it as 6 seconds? |
| 19:23.55 | Thunder_Child | mine shows 8.24 |
| 19:23.55 | Thunder_Child | 8.27* |
| 19:24.05 | TS|Skrom | that would make your shot speed 2.27 then right? |
| 19:24.12 | Thunder_Child | 2.5 |
| 19:24.18 | Cide | look in the character sheet |
| 19:24.20 | Cide | not on the weapon |
| 19:24.24 | TS|Skrom | that's your bow speed, did you take off for quiver? |
| 19:24.31 | Thunder_Child | yes, 2.27 then |
| 19:24.33 | Cide | lots of things affect weapon speed |
| 19:24.52 | TS|Skrom | I didn't know it changed the tooltip of aimed shot, news to me XD |
| 19:29.10 | Thunder_Child | and does hunters mark only increase by 2 for each _other_ ranged attack? |
| 19:30.30 | art3mis | http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071017125814.w6whem5y&show_article=1 |
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| 19:33.18 | dreamss | found an eze way to level wands |
| 19:33.41 | art3mis | sit on top of the house in the snow ogres place and edave wand them? |
| 19:33.46 | art3mis | evade |
| 19:33.50 | cncfanatics | wand docter boom ? |
| 19:34.37 | Cidan | evade wand ftw |
| 19:34.38 | Cidan | lol |
| 19:36.07 | Cidan | holy shat |
| 19:36.10 | Thunder_Child | best place i found to lvl weapons of any kind is just out side of one of the instances in auchindoun where the npc come rushing out to fight other npc's |
| 19:36.18 | Cidan | the new movies for hellgate london look amazing-ish, maybe |
| 19:36.22 | Cidan | we'll see how the action is |
| 19:36.26 | Cidan | but it's def got better. |
| 19:36.37 | Thunder_Child | just bash on the npc's since they dont pay attention to you, best for low lvl skills |
| 19:36.51 | cncfanatics | at some point I outaggro the mobs with autoattack |
| 19:36.57 | cncfanatics | but using a lvl 1 wep fixes that most of the time |
| 19:36.59 | Cidan | afk |
| 19:37.00 | cncfanatics | (+ being naked) |
| 19:37.30 | TS|Skrom | any excuse to be naked |
| 19:37.43 | Thunder_Child | heh |
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| 19:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | cidan |
| 19:40.25 | sag_ich_nicht | have you considered writing a tracker for "is ignoring you" messages? |
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| 19:43.33 | zenzelezz | the easiest spot for me to level weapon skills is still the "immortal" mobs at the dark portal (Azeroth side) |
| 19:43.59 | art3mis | yeah those are nice too |
| 19:44.05 | art3mis | cept ya gotta heal once in a while |
| 19:44.11 | zenzelezz | not if you're a tank |
| 19:44.30 | zenzelezz | auto-attack, come back 15 minutes later, lost 150 hp |
| 19:44.35 | art3mis | yeah thats more of a "cant" heal ;P |
| 19:45.28 | cncfanatics | what immortal mobs ? :o |
| 19:45.34 | cncfanatics | never noticed those |
| 19:46.21 | zenzelezz | the ones for one one of those demon quests, around the crater |
| 19:46.21 | art3mis | the servants |
| 19:46.32 | zenzelezz | at low health they banish, then go back alive, but don't lose health |
| 19:48.41 | cncfanatics | how wld u kill those if u wanted to then ? :o |
| 19:48.49 | art3mis | its part of a quest |
| 19:48.59 | art3mis | you break the little "pole" beside them |
| 19:49.02 | Kaydeethree | a badass and very long quest line |
| 19:49.03 | zenzelezz | when they go to banish you pull them close to some crystal they spwan by and it kills them |
| 19:49.45 | Thunder_Child | i hate stiches |
| 19:50.12 | Thunder_Child | in most places the raod is safe...but not in darkshire |
| 19:50.16 | Thunder_Child | road* |
| 19:50.17 | art3mis | weak |
| 19:50.26 | Kaydeethree | then you're not going to like the pathing changes on the ptr |
| 19:50.27 | art3mis | appearantly those brooms are one shot things |
| 19:50.43 | Kaydeethree | art3mis, no. they're good for 2 weeks. tooltips on the ptr were wrong |
| 19:50.57 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 19:50.58 | art3mis | awww they should have made them rare and perm |
| 19:51.12 | Thunder_Child | like we need MORE mounts |
| 19:51.27 | art3mis | but its a flying broom! |
| 19:51.53 | Thunder_Child | still gets you from point a to point b like anything else |
| 19:52.02 | art3mis | yeah but in style |
| 19:52.22 | dreamss | anyone have the arena gear prices chart handy? |
| 19:52.42 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php#post_aprice |
| 19:53.28 | Cidan | hellgate demo this friday! |
| 19:53.30 | Cidan | *glee* |
| 19:58.03 | cryogen | he is not! |
| 19:58.23 | bleeter | woot |
| 19:58.25 | cryogen | a gm ressed me |
| 19:58.33 | cryogen | then i had to fix the fishform bug myself |
| 19:58.38 | cryogen | by relogging while i was in water:) |
| 19:58.47 | bleeter | haha, fail |
| 19:59.15 | bleeter | fail @ code, not @ you :) |
| 19:59.30 | cryogen | it seemed like the client had some sort of sanity check in it |
| 19:59.37 | cryogen | like "wtf, hes not in water, i cant be in fish form" |
| 19:59.39 | cncfanatics | hmmm, are troll rogues better for pve then orc ? |
| 19:59.56 | Cidan | also |
| 20:00.03 | Cidan | best video on all the nine internets |
| 20:00.05 | Cidan | http://youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo |
| 20:00.40 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:06.31 | Kaydeethree | ahaha... [Blinding Powder]: "Once favored by rogues as a blinding agent, it was abandoned for more readily available resources... like dirt." |
| 20:07.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ahahahahahaha |
| 20:08.46 | Cidan | huh |
| 20:08.49 | Cidan | RFOnline is now free |
| 20:09.17 | Beladona | the sad thing is, even that won't get their subscribers back |
| 20:09.20 | Beladona | doh |
| 20:09.23 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:09.26 | Cidan | Never played the game |
| 20:09.29 | Cidan | so I may give it a shot |
| 20:09.29 | Beladona | I did |
| 20:09.42 | Cidan | Shirik is still into it big time or something |
| 20:10.05 | Beladona | felt like yet-another-korean-game |
| 20:10.18 | Cidan | ah, that's a shame |
| 20:10.22 | Cidan | I can't stand korean MMO's |
| 20:10.28 | Cidan | mouse click to move kills me |
| 20:10.29 | Beladona | I will say this |
| 20:10.33 | Beladona | botting is easy |
| 20:10.39 | Cidan | I heard. |
| 20:10.48 | Beladona | have two accounts, play on one, and farm on the other |
| 20:10.57 | Beladona | all day long |
| 20:12.42 | Cidan | uninstalling everything from windows, ugh |
| 20:12.44 | Cidan | takes forever |
| 20:12.52 | Cidan | h8 windows at this point |
| 20:13.35 | cncfanatics | why u doing that ? |
| 20:13.42 | cncfanatics | just backup what u need over network & format ? |
| 20:14.21 | Cidan | because I don't have much space left, both my 400 gig HDD's are almost full |
| 20:14.38 | kadrahil | ... |
| 20:14.42 | Cidan | how well does an XP VM work in linux? |
| 20:14.52 | bleeter | XP VMWare? |
| 20:14.55 | Cidan | yep |
| 20:14.58 | bleeter | very well |
| 20:15.04 | bleeter | DX8 only, tho, iirc |
| 20:15.06 | Cidan | any 3D accel? |
| 20:15.07 | Cidan | doh |
| 20:15.18 | cryogen | Cidan: buy a new hdd |
| 20:15.19 | cncfanatics | wine shld handle lots of games |
| 20:15.24 | Cidan | it does |
| 20:15.28 | cryogen | you dbe silly not to with hard drive prices these days! |
| 20:15.29 | Cidan | but some, it just annoys me |
| 20:15.35 | Cidan | ie: TF2 without DX9 sucks |
| 20:15.43 | bleeter | wine's got an annoying DX bug atm that no one's trying to fix (wrt WoW, thta is) |
| 20:15.58 | bleeter | well |
| 20:16.07 | bleeter | severl people have looked at it and then gone 'my brain hurts' |
| 20:16.11 | Cidan | I really am considering jumping into wine dev |
| 20:17.44 | Cidan | bleh |
| 20:17.49 | bleeter | hehe |
| 20:17.51 | Cidan | why are you using DX with WoW in wine anyways? |
| 20:17.59 | cncfanatics | meh, I might get into wine dev too, if I ever get enough time |
| 20:18.00 | Cidan | I mean, I'll look at it I guess |
| 20:18.06 | Cidan | once I'm done setting all this up |
| 20:18.15 | Cidan | I totally don't mind working with wine |
| 20:18.29 | nevcairiel | i was just about to ask if -opengl wouldnt be smarter on *nix |
| 20:18.33 | Cidan | I really want to help DX9 along |
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| 20:21.44 | Cidan | in particular since Cedega has DX9 support |
| 20:21.45 | cncfanatics | bleeter, why are those ppl running in pure d3d mode ? |
| 20:21.53 | Cidan | that's what I was wondering |
| 20:21.57 | Cidan | why would you even do that? |
| 20:21.58 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:23.08 | cncfanatics | well, I wonder, does wine3d use opengl ? I guess ? :p |
| 20:23.20 | Cide | >>> 24*1.2 |
| 20:23.20 | Cide | Cide: 28.8 |
| 20:26.12 | bleeter | don't quote me, I'm sure wereHamster could answer better (and it's early morning here too, my brain's more hazy than normal)... but iirc more WIn32 games are in DX, therefore greater concentration on Wine DX code. |
| 20:30.46 | bleeter | that's to say, as with most open source apps, the things that get done are those which generate the most itches that people need/want to scratch, so with regards to a DX/OGL in Wine, there'd be more DX itches that people want to scratch so that's where the effort goes. |
| 20:31.37 | cncfanatics | I mean |
| 20:31.37 | Cidan | we're not so much arguing that |
| 20:31.37 | Cidan | as much as we're saying |
| 20:31.37 | Cidan | use -opengl |
| 20:31.37 | Cidan | problem solved |
| 20:31.38 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:31.43 | cncfanatics | u beat me to it :p |
| 20:31.54 | cncfanatics | now i'm going to bed, g'night |
| 20:31.58 | Cidan | nini |
| 20:32.38 | bleeter | -d3d worked for about 2 releases of wine, ie the game played out of the box |
| 20:33.09 | bleeter | then when they improved dx9 support, it collapsed again |
| 20:33.40 | bleeter | don't get me wrong, I totally get what you're saying ;) |
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| 20:41.37 | Cidan | wahoo |
| 20:41.43 | Cidan | no more ndiswrapper on my laptop |
| 20:41.50 | Cidan | now I can use aircrack at school |
| 20:41.51 | Cidan | :D |
| 20:42.35 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lv0-ftyMKE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edarkroastedblend%2Ecom%2F2007%2F10%2Fno%2Dreflection%2Din%2Dmirror%2Ehtml |
| 20:44.41 | Cidan | oh wow |
| 20:44.49 | Cidan | xgl/compiz + 7.10 |
| 20:44.51 | Cidan | on ati |
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| 20:44.56 | Cidan | works up front |
| 20:45.01 | art3mis | nice |
| 20:45.03 | Cidan | no hacks |
| 20:45.13 | Lunessa | I think there ought to be a new system for updating macros to eliminate wasted space - We could call it the Cogwheel Complete Compression Protocol (CCCP). In Soviet Azeroth, macro writes you. |
| 20:45.18 | bleeter | which driver, Cidan ? |
| 20:45.23 | Cidan | restricted |
| 20:45.38 | Cidan | you do have to install the xgl server, but that's minimal |
| 20:45.42 | Cidan | just apt-get it |
| 20:45.43 | Cidan | and that's it |
| 20:45.46 | Cidan | it auto configures |
| 20:45.49 | bleeter | nice... fglrx collapses on my lappy's X1700... still ain't worked out why |
| 20:45.51 | Cidan | no need to setup sessions |
| 20:46.13 | bleeter | 3D works fine for about 15 seconds, then throws it's guts up in a hardlock kinda fashion |
| 20:46.26 | Cidan | lol |
| 20:46.37 | bleeter | thankfully Uni finishes today, so I'll have time to investigate this stuff |
| 20:46.41 | Cidan | works smoooootth too |
| 20:46.53 | Cidan | really slick, and fast |
| 20:46.57 | Cidan | <3 7.10 |
| 20:47.10 | Cidan | this is gold |
| 20:47.18 | Cidan | totally wiped out windows on the laptop, :D |
| 20:47.22 | bleeter | hot tip: you can install radeonhd and fglrx simultaneously, and just by changing the xorg.conf, switch between the two |
| 20:47.37 | bleeter | there's no DRI yet in radeonhd, but it feels so nice to have that driver running :) |
| 20:47.41 | _furl | Cra0 |
| 20:47.43 | _furl | Crap* |
| 20:47.46 | Cidan | hot tip: you don't need to edit xorg.conf to change drivers in 7.10 anymore |
| 20:47.51 | _furl | I accidentally joined on two clients |
| 20:47.52 | bleeter | oo |
| 20:48.06 | Cidan | it's all GUI now |
| 20:48.06 | bleeter | ~fail Furl |
| 20:48.07 | purl | Furl: Fail. |
| 20:48.07 | Furl | There |
| 20:48.24 | Furl | ~nuke bleeter |
| 20:48.24 | purl | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at bleeter ... B☢☢M! |
| 20:48.33 | bleeter | ~whaleshield |
| 20:48.34 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield bleeter from the blast. |
| 20:49.17 | Furl | purl: Canada? |
| 20:49.18 | purl | i heard canada is a large mass of land of which 50% of is incredibly useless. The other 50%, however, will probably enslave you and throw you into Iceland before you bounce back into some European country |
| 20:49.51 | zenzelezz | if you're thrown from Canada to Iceland, how can you bounce "back" to Europe? |
| 20:49.55 | zenzelezz | it's bouncing ahead |
| 20:50.06 | Thunder_Child | unless your talking chronologicly |
| 20:50.09 | Furl | You overshoot Europe ;) |
| 20:50.13 | Thunder_Child | ok, so not spelled correctly |
| 20:50.19 | Furl | overshoot Canda* |
| 20:51.41 | Cidan | oh yeha |
| 20:51.48 | Cidan | www.lotrolinux.com |
| 20:52.03 | Cidan | I thought that was cool |
| 20:52.19 | Cidan | not sure why it's written in mono though |
| 20:52.29 | Cidan | and not C w/ GTK or whatever |
| 20:52.41 | bleeter | the original launcher's in Mono |
| 20:52.49 | Cidan | you mean .NET |
| 20:52.51 | bleeter | it's explosion is rather tasty |
| 20:52.54 | bleeter | er, yeah |
| 20:52.56 | Cidan | that's fine though |
| 20:53.02 | Cidan | there is a shell script to launch it |
| 20:53.09 | Cidan | without a GUI at all |
| 20:53.15 | Cidan | just not sure why they didn't use that as a basis |
| 20:53.55 | Cidan | What are you talking about? These jerks whine all the time. |
| 20:53.56 | Cidan | :P |
| 20:54.08 | Cidan | I mean, look at sag_ich_nicht and Paladin's |
| 20:54.16 | Cidan | Paladins |
| 20:54.18 | bleeter | maybe someone dis-assembled the original launcher, and just 'rewrote' it ;) |
| 20:54.36 | Cidan | just seems silly imo |
| 20:54.42 | Cidan | when there is a shell script out there to do it |
| 20:55.01 | Furl | Anyone know a good set of flexible UI mods to make [[this: http://www.getpaint.net/users/Illnab1024/Pics/hmm.png ]] possible? |
| 20:55.25 | Cidan | jesus |
| 20:55.25 | Cidan | uh |
| 20:55.30 | Cidan | lol? |
| 20:55.34 | Furl | lol. |
| 20:55.42 | Cidan | what do you say to that? |
| 20:55.51 | Cidan | Perhaps your local elementary school can help? |
| 20:56.08 | Cidan | I hear 1st graders are quite able to do some fancy work? |
| 20:56.16 | Furl | Hehehehe |
| 20:56.18 | Furl | Not in LUA! |
| 20:56.23 | Cidan | Hmm |
| 20:56.25 | Cidan | let's see |
| 20:56.30 | Furl | Well... some can |
| 20:56.32 | Cidan | for the hud, I like nerfed |
| 20:56.40 | Cidan | the your map, Squeenix |
| 20:56.45 | Cidan | chat frames, mumble |
| 20:56.57 | Cidan | unit frames, I use ag |
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| 20:57.00 | Cidan | used, whichever |
| 20:57.24 | Cidan | this is my UI |
| 20:57.26 | Furl | Anything possible like that with the targetframe? |
| 20:57.26 | Cidan | http://emoemu.com/myui.jpg |
| 20:58.14 | Furl | movable, scalable? |
| 20:58.19 | Furl | skinnable |
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| 20:58.56 | Cidan | what, the UI? |
| 20:59.06 | Furl | TargetFrame |
| 20:59.06 | Cidan | the panels are, so are some other stuff |
| 20:59.08 | Cidan | ah er |
| 20:59.54 | Furl | Hmm though |
| 20:59.54 | Cidan | you should look at nerfed unit frames |
| 20:59.54 | Cidan | they are... |
| 20:59.54 | Cidan | heh |
| 20:59.54 | Cidan | insane |
| 20:59.54 | Cidan | you can do almost anything with them |
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| 20:59.54 | Cidan | via a nice in-game visual editor |
| 20:59.54 | Furl | I like information and settings overload. |
| 20:59.54 | Cidan | no lua editing required |
| 21:00.05 | Furl | I would prefer raidframes with a bajillion numbers >.> |
| 21:00.25 | Cidan | my raid frames are what you see on the right hand side |
| 21:00.28 | Cidan | of that screenshot |
| 21:00.31 | Cidan | RDX.Cid |
| 21:00.32 | Furl | That was drawn in barely any light btw, so that's why it looks like George W. drew it |
| 21:00.32 | Cidan | :P |
| 21:01.58 | cog|work | woot! |
| 21:02.05 | bleeter | heh, I was expecting a screenshot, so when it started coming down I was all 'gah, total fail on this one' until it became obvious it was hand-drawn ;) |
| 21:02.06 | cog|work | screw you comcast i'm getting satellite |
| 21:02.07 | Furl | Woot! |
| 21:02.20 | Thunder_Child | and you can see Cidan is lazy |
| 21:02.20 | bleeter | cog|work: get me one too, kthx |
| 21:02.21 | *** kick/#wowi-lounge [cog|work!n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire] by cladhaire (your excitement must be squashed. No happy in the #wowi-lounge!) |
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| 21:02.31 | Furl | Aww. |
| 21:02.35 | cladhaire | this is china beyatch! |
| 21:02.40 | Furl | I cheered and you got kickéd |
| 21:02.42 | Kaydeethree | happy? hm |
| 21:02.51 | cladhaire | Kaydeethree: don't even think about it! |
| 21:03.02 | cladhaire | My ears are plugged up |
| 21:03.05 | bleeter | I saw that china thing in scroolback... total fail for not naming a proper dictatorial regime |
| 21:03.08 | cladhaire | and my head feels stuffy |
| 21:03.11 | cladhaire | what should i take? |
| 21:03.13 | Cidan | hmm |
| 21:03.18 | Cidan | I have a few suggestions |
| 21:03.21 | cog|work | cladhaire: mucinex |
| 21:03.22 | Cidan | but they're way too dirt. |
| 21:03.23 | bleeter | cladhaire: irish coffee |
| 21:03.27 | Cidan | dirty, even. |
| 21:03.35 | cladhaire | cog|work: ooh can i get that in england? |
| 21:03.37 | cog|work | or just rub some Vick's in your nostrils |
| 21:03.37 | Furl | Yea Basically I need to lighten my addon load. lol. |
| 21:03.50 | Kaydeethree | go to the pharmaacy, find the OTC meds that closes matches the symptoms you're describing |
| 21:03.51 | Furl | At 50-75mb ui usage loaded it is Hell |
| 21:04.00 | bleeter | screw the pharmacy |
| 21:04.02 | Furl | With 2 gigs Ram >.> |
| 21:04.02 | cladhaire | Kaydeethree: its england, they're all like "Eat more potatoes" |
| 21:04.06 | Kaydeethree | gah. I fail at grammar |
| 21:04.09 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: s/pharmacy/chemist/ :P |
| 21:04.09 | bleeter | go to the bottleshop, get some irish whisky, and make some irish coffee |
| 21:04.34 | Kaydeethree | anthrax! ooh. always fun to play with |
| 21:04.36 | bleeter | (a) it's cheaper than pharmaceuticals (b) it gets you drunk |
| 21:04.59 | Furl | purl: caffeine? |
| 21:04.59 | purl | It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. |
| 21:05.03 | cladhaire | yes drunk.. just what the immune system needs =/ |
| 21:05.30 | Furl | All hail C8H10N4O2 |
| 21:05.33 | bleeter | cladhaire: worked fine for me when I was over that way |
| 21:05.33 | cladhaire | hrm.. i brought drugs with me |
| 21:05.35 | cladhaire | wonder where they are |
| 21:05.47 | Kaydeethree | I thougt caffeine's natural form was bawls and livewire and vault |
| 21:05.55 | Kaydeethree | damn it, I give up |
| 21:05.55 | cladhaire | bleeter: from a purely medical standpoint.. alcohol is absolutely horrible for your system |
| 21:06.04 | Thunder_Child | i still need to try bawls...expesnive though |
| 21:06.11 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: have you tried mountain dew game fuel? |
| 21:06.19 | cog|work | it's like a mix between code red & livewire |
| 21:06.26 | Kaydeethree | hm |
| 21:06.28 | cog|work | but with 73 mg of caffeine :) |
| 21:06.29 | bleeter | cladhaire: and when was the last time you did something by choice that is horrible for your system? |
| 21:06.33 | bleeter | :P |
| 21:06.33 | Furl | KD3: Plug a serial cable into yourself and try to find/buy a COM port. |
| 21:06.34 | cog|work | instead of 54 |
| 21:06.44 | Furl | That works well. |
| 21:06.45 | Kaydeethree | I just wish they'd make livewire more often than in the summer |
| 21:06.53 | cladhaire | its the climate here thats fucking wiht me |
| 21:07.02 | bleeter | cladhaire: seriously, though, the aim isn't to get drunk, it's to use the alcohol to clear your head and stuff |
| 21:07.02 | cladhaire | in New York we get this mid-range liek twice a year |
| 21:07.05 | cladhaire | its the entire season here. |
| 21:07.10 | cog|work | Kaydeethree: this is the first time we've had livewire in 2 years |
| 21:07.10 | bleeter | much the same way as eucalyptus vapors do |
| 21:07.11 | Furl | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Caffeine_USP.jpg |
| 21:07.12 | cladhaire | bleeter: its not bad enough to warrant that |
| 21:07.14 | cog|work | in my area |
| 21:07.24 | cladhaire | just annoying more than anything |
| 21:07.51 | cog|work | wtb http://www.aonevitamins.com/caffeine.htm |
| 21:07.53 | cladhaire | but i have an eustachion tube issue, and i have drugs for that that should help drain |
| 21:08.58 | Beladona | night all |
| 21:09.03 | bleeter | there's a line there that I don't think I should touch |
| 21:09.04 | Cidan | baiii |
| 21:09.06 | bleeter | gnight Beladona |
| 21:09.10 | Thunder_Child | night Beladona |
| 21:09.16 | Cidan | bleeter: Touch it baby, you know you want to... Come on! |
| 21:09.40 | bleeter | <@cladhaire> but i have an eustachion tube issue, and i have drugs for that that should help drain << get your tubes tied, d'oh! |
| 21:09.48 | bleeter | it was Cidan! he made me! |
| 21:10.05 | Cidan | aaaawwww |
| 21:10.06 | Cidan | crap |
| 21:10.06 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:10.32 | Cidan | That was great. |
| 21:10.43 | Cidan | also |
| 21:10.51 | Cidan | Kaydeethree: 7.10, ATI works without a problem |
| 21:11.02 | Kaydeethree | I use nvidia hardware kthx |
| 21:11.03 | Cidan | runs smooth as well. |
| 21:11.05 | Cidan | so do I |
| 21:11.07 | Cidan | just sayin' |
| 21:11.10 | Cidan | laptop is ATI |
| 21:11.11 | Cidan | works well |
| 21:12.37 | bleeter | gnight clad|sleep |
| 21:13.19 | Intangir | man there are sure alot of issues for 2.3 listed on wowblues |
| 21:13.34 | Intangir | wtf.. ALOT of issues, all sorts of random stuff i cant even think of why they would be touching it |
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| 21:21.23 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 21:21.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i need the damn trinket from SH endboss :X |
| 21:22.38 | Cidan | Yeah baby, I bet you can use MY trinket |
| 21:22.41 | Cidan | IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN |
| 21:22.46 | Cidan | eh? EH?! |
| 21:23.48 | zenzelezz | I've heard the duration is short on it, and the cooldown too long |
| 21:24.22 | MentalPower | lol! |
| 21:24.50 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 21:24.54 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz wins |
| 21:24.58 | Cidan | He does |
| 21:25.04 | Cidan | I can't really counter that |
| 21:28.24 | Cidan | also, RIAA is suing Usenet.com |
| 21:28.29 | Cidan | er...lolwut? |
| 21:28.48 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i got up fridays schedule for fridays category, you can make a better one when you scan yours in |
| 21:30.42 | Thunder_Child | woot, 14.59% crit rating |
| 21:31.20 | dreamss | Usenet been around for 20years |
| 21:31.21 | dreamss | lol |
| 21:31.53 | dreamss | whats gonna hapen if, they gonna go after the uploaders after they fail |
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| 21:40.15 | Cidan | Kaydeethree: what's a good DVD authoring program? |
| 21:40.21 | Cidan | Kaydeethree: need to burn files, btw. |
| 21:40.29 | Kaydeethree | I juse use k3b to burn data |
| 21:40.45 | Cidan | I'm using gnome |
| 21:40.53 | Cidan | going to stick with it when I can |
| 21:40.54 | Cidan | :P |
| 21:41.18 | Thunder_Child | pfft, KDE is so much better....i think |
| 21:41.31 | Kaydeethree | nautilus' file burner works, I guess. k3b > all imnsho |
| 21:43.45 | Cidan | just need a simple file writing system, is all |
| 21:43.48 | Cidan | nothing too fancy |
| 21:44.03 | zenzelezz | cat |
| 21:44.09 | Cidan | lol |
| 21:46.52 | sag_ich_nicht | i have discovered the ultimate anti-noob question for WoW. |
| 21:47.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ask a level 70 which site of maraudon was orange and which one violet. |
| 21:48.04 | Thunder_Child | orange is right i think....been a while though |
| 21:48.35 | Saint-N | man the riaa is gonna lose SOO bad going after usenet |
| 21:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 21:49.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Saint-N |
| 21:49.03 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2read |
| 21:49.06 | sag_ich_nicht | they go after one provider |
| 21:49.10 | sag_ich_nicht | not the system itself. |
| 21:49.35 | Cidan | yeah |
| 21:49.44 | Cidan | suing "usenet" is like suing "ftp" |
| 21:49.50 | Cidan | or "irc" |
| 21:49.55 | Saint-N | and that one provider merely has to say that the source of usenet is 100's of thousands of servers and they merely provide access not filter. |
| 21:50.07 | Saint-N | thats like sueing google for the shit it displays |
| 21:50.11 | Saint-N | they will lose |
| 21:50.30 | Saint-N | me thinks that the riaa should spend more money on getting GOOD bands than trying to sue thier customers |
| 21:50.53 | Cidan | it's fine |
| 21:50.56 | Cidan | see what NIN did? |
| 21:51.02 | Saint-N | the p2p lawsuits only made it more likely for someone NOT to purchase albums that werent indy labels or direct band releases |
| 21:51.02 | Cidan | you're going to see people do that |
| 21:51.12 | Cidan | Soon, the RIAA will have no one under them |
| 21:51.16 | Cidan | and they will be worthless |
| 21:51.27 | Cidan | no one wants to work with the labels anymore, they aren't fair |
| 21:51.30 | Saint-N | yup mpaa at least got sorta smart about it and kind of toned it down |
| 21:51.47 | Saint-N | what with the whole netflix streaming movie rents |
| 21:51.49 | Saint-N | rentals |
| 21:51.59 | Saint-N | which is just an insanely awesome idea |
| 21:57.12 | Cidan | eh |
| 21:57.18 | Cidan | people just don't get it |
| 21:57.21 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 21:57.22 | Cidan | give us DRM free files |
| 21:58.13 | Saint-N | hehe all DRM did was create new ways to get around it make people more interested in doing it that way |
| 21:58.33 | Cidan | yerp |
| 21:58.35 | Saint-N | when we could leech cds and copy tapes we did it but we'd still buy the stuff |
| 21:58.40 | Thunder_Child | "Precision now increases spell hit chance as well." odd |
| 21:59.18 | Saint-N | now seeing the tactics and determination to not make it "ours" after we purchase it and do with it as we please we are less likely to bother purchasing it |
| 21:59.31 | Saint-N | ijits |
| 22:05.11 | Cidan | man |
| 22:05.24 | Cidan | LotRO, WoW, Oblivion and Steam take up 61.5 gigs |
| 22:06.29 | nevcairiel | my steam is 19.3 GB |
| 22:06.32 | nevcairiel | go figure |
| 22:06.47 | Cidan | mine is like, 36 |
| 22:06.55 | Cidan | I have a ton of games on it though |
| 22:07.06 | Cidan | I think I'll just not backup the steam files |
| 22:07.09 | Cidan | and download them again |
| 22:07.15 | Cidan | after I wipe the drive |
| 22:07.18 | Cidan | not worth it |
| 22:07.18 | Cidan | :/ |
| 22:07.21 | nevcairiel | i have hl1 + hl2 orangebox, no of the thirdparty stuff |
| 22:07.25 | nevcairiel | still way too big |
| 22:08.38 | Cidan | I have a lot of third party stuff |
| 22:08.47 | Cidan | I <3 steam |
| 22:08.53 | Cidan | ookay, so, deleting steam |
| 22:09.19 | Cidan | hmm, should I delete LotRO and reinstall in linux, or copy it over? |
| 22:09.30 | nevcairiel | has it native linux? |
| 22:09.31 | zenzelezz | I didn't like Steam when it was introduced, and the only time I've used it since was when I played through HL2 singleplayer |
| 22:09.34 | Cidan | no |
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| 22:09.53 | nevcairiel | then it doesnt matter, if you have the space to backup, copy over, if you dont, reinstall |
| 22:10.35 | Cidan | eh, I'll just reinstall |
| 22:11.15 | Cidan | delete Oblivion too, I can always reinstall that |
| 22:11.18 | Cidan | so that leaves WoW |
| 22:11.34 | nevcairiel | reinstalling wow is always a pain |
| 22:11.43 | Cidan | right, not going to do that |
| 22:11.46 | Cidan | will back that one up |
| 22:11.48 | Cidan | only 9 gigs |
| 22:12.33 | Cidan | annnndd out of room on my other drive, 2 gigs of 400 left |
| 22:12.40 | Cidan | time to burn some crap. |
| 22:13.20 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shirik (i=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 22:13.27 | nevcairiel | i have some old IDE disks flying around somewhere that i attach to some usb adapter for stuff like that |
| 22:13.54 | nevcairiel | some 200gig disks i replaced last year with sata |
| 22:14.36 | Cidan | OH |
| 22:14.39 | Cidan | You just reminded me |
| 22:14.46 | Cidan | I have an extra 100 gig external drive |
| 22:14.48 | Cidan | woo |
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| 22:16.31 | Shirik | qq |
| 22:16.32 | Shirik | RF Online patch |
| 22:16.55 | Cidan | lol |
| 22:16.56 | Cidan | that sucks |
| 22:16.58 | Shirik | seems they didn't change the bin file though, yey |
| 22:16.59 | Cidan | it's free now though |
| 22:17.02 | Cidan | did you see? |
| 22:17.03 | Shirik | but they changed 108 files >.> |
| 22:17.06 | Shirik | I told you this! |
| 22:17.09 | Cidan | wait what |
| 22:17.12 | Cidan | when? |
| 22:17.12 | Cidan | lol |
| 22:17.22 | Shirik | like last week |
| 22:17.27 | Cidan | oh |
| 22:17.27 | Cidan | er |
| 22:17.29 | Cidan | okay? |
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| 22:20.43 | Cidan | so I started the switch to full Ubuntu, Shirik |
| 22:20.49 | Shirik | you said it sucked |
| 22:20.59 | Cidan | once you get it working, it's fine |
| 22:21.03 | Cidan | XFS just fucked it up |
| 22:21.08 | Cidan | it hates GRUB |
| 22:21.18 | Cidan | Laptop is now windows free |
| 22:21.30 | Cidan | and clearing off my desktop for it. |
| 22:21.43 | Cidan | going to mount /home onto my 400 gig |
| 22:23.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan. |
| 22:23.45 | sag_ich_nicht | or Shirik. |
| 22:23.49 | sag_ich_nicht | someone write an ignore tracker :( |
| 22:24.13 | Shirik | a what? |
| 22:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | "XYZ is ignoring you." store XYZ in a list. if you at some point send a message(also addon message, because ignore also ignores addon whisper communication) to XYZ again and he doesn't ignore you anymore, remove from the list. |
| 22:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 22:26.19 | sag_ich_nicht | all this "is ignoring you spam" when i run around in IF because of cowtip requesting talent information from players is starting to annoy me because i wanna know how many people on the server ignore me |
| 22:26.26 | sag_ich_nicht | (i figure the amount is quite high :X) |
| 22:26.48 | Arrowmaster | wait you get "... is ignoring you." spam from addon messages? |
| 22:27.48 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 22:28.02 | Arrowmaster | thats silly |
| 22:28.08 | sag_ich_nicht | if someone has you on ignore, you get "is ignoring you" when you try to send an addon whisper to the person |
| 22:28.21 | Arrowmaster | report as bug imho |
| 22:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | it's probably unintended functionality |
| 22:28.26 | sag_ich_nicht | no don't |
| 22:28.29 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a feature! |
| 22:28.40 | Cidan | addons can whisper now? |
| 22:28.44 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe an unintended one, but a useful feature nonetheless! |
| 22:28.45 | Cidan | over the addon channel? |
| 22:28.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: cidan since forever. |
| 22:28.52 | sag_ich_nicht | -cidan |
| 22:28.53 | Cidan | er, no? |
| 22:28.56 | sag_ich_nicht | er yes |
| 22:28.56 | sag_ich_nicht | 2.1 |
| 22:28.58 | sag_ich_nicht | is forever. |
| 22:29.02 | Cidan | huh |
| 22:29.05 | Cidan | didn't know that |
| 22:29.10 | Cidan | that's a bug, imo |
| 22:29.13 | Cidan | file a bug report |
| 22:29.28 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it's not. the change was intentional, addons are supposed to have whisper communication |
| 22:29.39 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: that's not forever |
| 22:29.53 | Shirik | concurrently I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it doesn't block it (granted, I haven't tested) |
| 22:30.02 | Shirik | in the same way drunkedness does not impact the addon channel |
| 22:30.15 | sag_ich_nicht | god it was in the addon patchnotes |
| 22:30.15 | sag_ich_nicht | christ |
| 22:30.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hold it |
| 22:30.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll find it |
| 22:30.22 | Shirik | find what? |
| 22:30.30 | sag_ich_nicht | RTFPN |
| 22:30.33 | Shirik | I do |
| 22:30.35 | Shirik | genius |
| 22:30.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan doesn't. |
| 22:30.39 | Shirik | What are you trying to find? |
| 22:30.49 | sag_ich_nicht | something to beat cidan with |
| 22:30.52 | Shirik | He already agreed with you, why do you have to keep pushing? |
| 22:31.07 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 22:31.08 | sag_ich_nicht | boredom? |
| 22:31.11 | sag_ich_nicht | too much trolling? |
| 22:31.13 | Shirik | whatever |
| 22:31.15 | sag_ich_nicht | because my right eye is red? |
| 22:31.16 | sag_ich_nicht | # |
| 22:31.16 | sag_ich_nicht | # UPDATED - SendAddOnMessage("prefix","message"[,"type"][,"target"]) -- now accepts "WHISPER" as the message type, which will not be affected by the throtting of whispers. |
| 22:31.18 | sag_ich_nicht | there :O |
| 22:31.37 | Shirik|zZz | -_- |
| 22:31.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik|zZz: and, i think this is intentional, otherwise you could use addons that display text |
| 22:31.43 | sag_ich_nicht | to spam people |
| 22:31.52 | sag_ich_nicht | (of course, that would be the fault of the author, but still :X) |
| 22:31.57 | Shirik|zZz | what is intentional |
| 22:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | that the ignore gives you ignore'd. |
| 22:32.22 | Shirik|zZz | whatever, I'm going to sleep |
| 22:32.25 | sag_ich_nicht | okay. |
| 22:32.40 | Shirik|zZz | I wouldn't be surprised if he blocked you by now |
| 22:32.40 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowwiki.com/2.1.0_consolidated_API_changes |
| 22:32.46 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 22:32.50 | Shirik|zZz | so seriously, shut the hell up. He doesn't care, and neither do I |
| 22:32.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt it |
| 22:32.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:33.15 | sag_ich_nicht | night Shirik|zZz |
| 22:33.17 | sag_ich_nicht | sleep well |
| 22:37.23 | [melin] | hmm.. cant buttons react on <OnClick> ? |
| 22:37.38 | [melin] | SecureActionButtonTemplate buttons |
| 22:38.09 | Cidan | yes, but not in a secure manner |
| 22:38.49 | Cidan | what? |
| 22:38.52 | Cidan | huh |
| 22:38.59 | Cidan | oh, yeah, just didn't know the change |
| 22:39.04 | Cidan | I believe you when you said it |
| 22:39.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. my point is |
| 22:39.20 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you missed something else in the patchnotes. |
| 22:39.28 | Cidan | I likely missed a lot |
| 22:39.53 | Cidan | like how UnitName("somethingInvalid") will return "Unknown" now |
| 22:39.53 | sag_ich_nicht | so you might wish to consider re-reading them as to not having to stab yourself in the head in 6 months when you notice something and have to change parts of conspiracy because of it. |
| 22:39.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:39.55 | Cidan | and not nil |
| 22:40.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: that's a bug |
| 22:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | stated to be fixed in 2.3 iirc |
| 22:40.17 | Cidan | oh well, I worked around it anyways |
| 22:40.32 | Cidan | I'm not too worried, Conspiracy is modular enough that I don't have to worry |
| 22:40.43 | Cidan | It's written with change in mind |
| 22:41.15 | Thunder_Child | the change to another addon kind of change? :P |
| 22:41.24 | Cidan | lol |
| 22:41.28 | Cidan | let me put it like this |
| 22:41.58 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. cidan |
| 22:42.02 | sag_ich_nicht | wanna see something funny? |
| 22:42.04 | Cidan | it's written in a way that will make it portable to other _games_ should the chance come up |
| 22:42.07 | Cidan | ie: LotRO |
| 22:42.17 | Cidan | shure |
| 22:42.19 | sag_ich_nicht | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043952003&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 22:42.56 | Cidan | it's not funny |
| 22:43.01 | Cidan | it's pain |
| 22:43.04 | Cidan | pain in my eyes |
| 22:43.12 | Cidan | I will never understand why people insist on using XML |
| 22:43.33 | Cidan | shove it cog, :D |
| 22:43.44 | Cidan | ow |
| 22:43.45 | Cidan | damn it |
| 22:44.21 | foxlit | XML is <3 |
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| 22:45.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: read it all, then it's funny. |
| 22:47.32 | Thunder_Child | ~shove Cidan |
| 22:47.36 | Cidan | huh |
| 22:47.38 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 22:47.43 | Thunder_Child | purl fails |
| 22:47.43 | purl | I fail? I FAIL? NO, YOU FAIL!!! |
| 22:47.43 | Cidan | nice taint bug |
| 22:52.02 | Cidan | brb, booting to linux |
| 22:52.36 | [melin] | hmm.. I have this button that I've set an action (spell) or item to.. but I want it to do other stuff if I have an item/spell on the cursor.. problem is that if I add a <OnClick> event to it - it just stops doing the spell or using the item bound to it |
| 22:52.43 | cog|work | foxlit: /agree |
| 22:53.01 | cog|work | <PreClick> |
| 22:53.28 | [melin] | cog|work ?? |
| 22:53.34 | [melin] | what on earth is that..:P |
| 22:53.51 | [melin] | ohhh... |
| 22:54.14 | cog|work | works just like <OnClick> but runs before it gets to <OnClick> |
| 22:54.51 | [melin] | nice |
| 22:55.24 | [melin] | now.. if I have something in the cursor - I dont want the button to do anything really.. will a simple return; inside the <preclick> do the trick? |
| 22:56.40 | cog|work | hmm... |
| 22:56.43 | cog|work | i don't think so |
| 22:57.04 | foxlit | No |
| 22:57.09 | cog|work | i mean i know that won't do the trick... |
| 22:57.27 | foxlit | Cog is so modest :) |
| 22:57.43 | [melin] | =) |
| 22:57.52 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:58.13 | foxlit | Cidan: yeah, but does it run on Abacuses? |
| 22:58.31 | cog|work | only thing i can think of would be to unset some attribute in <PreClick> so the OnClick handler doesn't do anything and then reset it in <PostClick> |
| 22:58.35 | foxlit | (this delayed reply brought to you by offtopic slashdot comments) |
| 22:59.00 | [melin] | cog|work yea I thought so too.. |
| 22:59.14 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work |
| 22:59.22 | sag_ich_nicht | quick question |
| 22:59.27 | cog|work | no |
| 22:59.29 | sag_ich_nicht | what's tainting my raidtab, and how :P |
| 22:59.33 | cog|work | ^ quick answer :P |
| 22:59.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleslap cog|work |
| 22:59.48 | purl | ACTION beats cog|work upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:59.58 | cog|work | ~whaleparry sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:59.59 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry sag_ich_nicht's attacks. |
| 23:00.15 | cog|work | ~whalecrit sag_ich_nicht |
| 23:00.16 | purl | ACTION crits sag_ich_nicht with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. sag_ich_nicht dies |
| 23:00.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleshield sag_ich_nicht |
| 23:00.39 | sag_ich_nicht | damnit |
| 23:00.45 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: one sec... |
| 23:00.48 | foxlit | ~whaleshield |
| 23:00.49 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield foxlit from the blast. |
| 23:00.50 | cog|work | oh... that's what's doing it |
| 23:00.55 | cog|work | the cause of your taint is... |
| 23:00.57 | cog|work | your mom |
| 23:01.02 | sag_ich_nicht | lies |
| 23:01.07 | sag_ich_nicht | my mom doesn't know how to code lua. |
| 23:01.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'd be rather scared if she did. |
| 23:01.17 | cog|work | Oh... THAT "taint" |
| 23:01.22 | cog|work | <.< |
| 23:01.24 | cog|work | >.> |
| 23:01.39 | sag_ich_nicht | ~find cog|work |
| 23:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm. |
| 23:01.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ~locate cog|work |
| 23:01.49 | purl | ACTION whips the black sheet away from cog|work showing the world cog|work's evil plans |
| 23:01.49 | cog|work | aw crap |
| 23:02.00 | Esamynn | haha |
| 23:03.18 | Cidan | there, :D |
| 23:04.35 | sag_ich_nicht | cidan |
| 23:04.40 | sag_ich_nicht | is VFL tainting my raidtab? :P |
| 23:04.58 | cog|work | your raid tab isn't tainted |
| 23:05.04 | cog|work | the code that shows your raid tab is |
| 23:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ...that's what i mean, and you know that :P |
| 23:05.32 | cog|work | and i knew you knew that |
| 23:05.34 | cog|work | :P |
| 23:05.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. |
| 23:06.18 | sag_ich_nicht | sometimes it's completely blank in combat, sometimes not, it NEVER allows setting of MT/MA and it ALWAYS sucks my FPS down to ~2. |
| 23:06.21 | Esamynn | ~lart cog|work |
| 23:06.21 | purl | crushes cog|work with a full height scsi disk |
| 23:06.25 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 23:06.25 | Esamynn | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 23:06.25 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, sag_ich_nicht, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 23:06.34 | Cidan | it shouldn't |
| 23:06.43 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442927843&sid=1#8 |
| 23:06.56 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: i read that already :P |
| 23:08.10 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: i'd prefer find out what kind of taint can cause this and then issecurevariable()in/greping to find the addon(s) that cause it, and you know why? |
| 23:08.31 | Cidan | just disable your addons |
| 23:08.35 | Cidan | and test them |
| 23:08.40 | sag_ich_nicht | 1. i don't get a testraid easily started to figure it out |
| 23:08.53 | Cidan | so start one, get a friend to sit in a raid |
| 23:08.56 | sag_ich_nicht | (since i would NEED a raid and debugging it could take hours :P) |
| 23:09.14 | Cidan | figure out what addon it is first, start with the likely suspects |
| 23:09.15 | foxlit | What's this "friend" thing? |
| 23:09.20 | sag_ich_nicht | and 2. i have 470 addons. :P |
| 23:09.29 | Cidan | That's a lie |
| 23:09.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan want a screenshot? |
| 23:09.37 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: invite friend, convert to raid, friend can go |
| 23:09.40 | Cidan | 473. |
| 23:09.44 | Cidan | I counted |
| 23:09.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: i deleted some. |
| 23:09.58 | sag_ich_nicht | it's only 470 now. |
| 23:10.18 | Esamynn | 470?!?!?!?!? |
| 23:10.34 | sag_ich_nicht | hi Esamynn. |
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| 23:11.17 | sag_ich_nicht | want a download so you can have fun for hours debugging random errors that have no apparent reason because of too many cross addon incompatibilities? |
| 23:11.19 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 23:11.30 | Esamynn | :P |
| 23:12.12 | sag_ich_nicht | http://loliserv.org/~afora/OmenBugInterface.rar there you go, it's a bit outdated(2 months or so) but should still provide you enough fun :P |
| 23:12.35 | Esamynn | :P |
| 23:13.01 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: why dont you just install alarlib? |
| 23:13.19 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen what the hell is that. |
| 23:13.52 | cryogen | some random person on the ace svn compiled EVERY library possible into.. alarlib |
| 23:14.01 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 23:14.05 | Kaydeethree | wth? |
| 23:14.33 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen you got to be kidding me. |
| 23:14.44 | cryogen | i dont know the exact specifics |
| 23:14.47 | cryogen | but its something like that :) |
| 23:15.24 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't look like that to me: http://wow.aspide.it/ |
| 23:16.21 | cryogen | on the ace svn they are all under one addon.. alarlib |
| 23:16.29 | cryogen | anyway, sleep is good |
| 23:17.48 | Cidan | so next to my apt on the 2nd floor of this tower |
| 23:17.53 | Cidan | is the washing machines |
| 23:18.05 | Cidan | so my kitchen sink is getting backflowed with dish-washing liquid |
| 23:18.10 | Cidan | I'm like, wtf |
| 23:18.13 | Cidan | I figure it will stop |
| 23:18.16 | Cidan | it keeps going |
| 23:18.20 | Cidan | I'm like, what the hell |
| 23:18.21 | Cidan | that's it |
| 23:18.25 | Cidan | open my door, turn right |
| 23:18.31 | Cidan | ...there is a river in my hallway. |
| 23:18.36 | Lunessa | cog|work: *nod* |
| 23:18.39 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 23:18.42 | Kaydeethree | oO; |
| 23:18.49 | Cidan | I don't just mean a leak, there is a bloody river |
| 23:18.56 | Cidan | The floor looks like it's going to give. |
| 23:19.09 | cog|work | Lunessa: ? |
| 23:19.24 | Lunessa | Inverse profanity filter thread. |
| 23:19.32 | Lunessa | Sorry -- too many contexts. |
| 23:21.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Cidan: reverse polarity. |
| 23:21.39 | sag_ich_nicht | (in during nobody getting my chemistry joke) |
| 23:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway |
| 23:22.27 | sag_ich_nicht | night guys |
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| 23:28.30 | Cidan | ugh |
| 23:28.34 | Cidan | this burning program sucks |
| 23:28.40 | Cidan | can't burn off samba shares |
| 23:28.55 | Cidan | and I don't feel like mounting them |
| 23:29.26 | Cidan | bah, brb |
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| 23:59.03 | Cidan | Cairenn|afk: ping? |
