| 00:00.09 | Kelfarr | it is? |
| 00:00.30 | Kelfarr | Where was that link? |
| 00:00.37 | Rayne | UI Post thread |
| 00:00.44 | Kelfarr | What page |
| 00:01.21 | Kelfarr | Some guy wants to heal without using a mouse |
| 00:02.57 | Rayne | not hard for 5 mans |
| 00:03.01 | Rayne | raid, gl |
| 00:03.36 | Kelfarr | Yeah I told him use grid and he said xperl raid frames are good |
| 00:05.26 | Tem | *shudder* |
| 00:05.40 | Tem | imo, the least visually appealing unit frames ever made |
| 00:06.11 | Wobin | Tem: New working MrPlow |
| 00:06.16 | Tem | Wobin, zomg |
| 00:06.29 | Wobin | It -actually- works! =P |
| 00:06.32 | Rayne | God smite the man that lead Shrig to these forums... |
| 00:06.38 | Rayne | pray he doesnt come on IRC :/ |
| 00:06.45 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.52 | Thunder_Child | i prefer praid for my raid frames |
| 00:06.53 | Tem | Wobin, can I just svn up? |
| 00:06.56 | |Jelly| | IRC would be lulz imo |
| 00:07.46 | Tem | merf, I guess I'm not getting any work done on the website anyway |
| 00:07.46 | Wobin | aye |
| 00:07.57 | Tem | brb -- booting back into windows |
| 00:08.25 | Wobin | Rayne: I cannot see your nick, and not think of the character from the webcomic Least I Could Do |
| 00:08.47 | Rayne | Never read it O_o |
| 00:09.42 | Wobin | http://www.leasticoulddo.com |
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| 00:13.47 | Wobin | hm |
| 00:13.55 | Wobin | I don't know if I like how Beowulf looks |
| 00:14.15 | Wobin | It's.. missing something |
| 00:14.16 | Rayne | its 300 all over again |
| 00:14.24 | Wobin | nah, the CGI I'm talking about |
| 00:14.27 | Rayne | or 300 without the army |
| 00:14.42 | Thunder_Child | watch it in 3D |
| 00:16.07 | buu | Well, at least 300 had real people for the action. |
| 00:16.17 | buu | I think "Beowulf" is all sorts of uncanny valley. |
| 00:17.35 | Rayne | Kel |
| 00:17.41 | Rayne | just let him continue being a fucktard |
| 00:17.46 | Rayne | leave him be |
| 00:17.58 | Wobin | yeah, the entire thing is CGI |
| 00:17.59 | Rayne | You helped, he cried and bitched, his loss. |
| 00:18.00 | Wobin | I think |
| 00:19.31 | Wobin | http://www.bagbybeowulf.com/video/index.html |
| 00:19.32 | Wobin | hehe |
| 00:19.41 | Wobin | I can't understand what he's saying |
| 00:19.45 | Wobin | but it sounds cool =P |
| 00:28.44 | Kelfarr | This guy must be a troll http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856008682&sid=1 |
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| 00:29.58 | |Jelly| | ~hug Cairenn |
| 00:29.58 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 00:30.08 | |Jelly| | YES! Tackle hugs for Cairenn! |
| 00:30.18 | Cairenn | woot! |
| 00:31.02 | |Jelly| | So I think I've decided that if I have to sell my body, I'm going to Blizzcon next year |
| 00:31.12 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 00:31.13 | Cairenn | you mean the year after |
| 00:31.19 | |Jelly| | Yeah |
| 00:31.23 | |Jelly| | "the next one" |
| 00:31.25 | Thunder_Child | except for the part where they dont have one |
| 00:31.30 | bleeter | |Jelly|: I think norgs and I were discussing that a few months ago |
| 00:31.35 | bleeter | selling our own bodies, that is |
| 00:31.37 | bleeter | not yours |
| 00:31.51 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 00:32.37 | bleeter | course, the other alternative is to try and organise a FanCon in Brisbane and invite Blizz along |
| 00:33.04 | bleeter | though I suspect we've missed the 'right time of year' for such frivolities |
| 00:35.00 | Nechckn | Though.. with all the time and effort to get that pulled together.. you may be better off to take that time Hookin' and just attend the next =) |
| 00:37.02 | bleeter | yar, well the cost of me getting to Brisbane, and accomodation, etc., it's not *that* much more getting to the US |
| 00:37.09 | bleeter | whether they'd let me in is a different matter ;) |
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| 00:38.33 | bleeter | maybe I should go to Canada, and have Cairenn smuggle me to blizzcon in the boot of her car |
| 00:38.43 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 00:41.17 | Saint-N | hehe i missed the "of her car" part and thought wow you must be SUPER tiny to fit in cairenns boot ;P |
| 00:41.44 | Wobin | There was an (not so old) woman who lived in a shoe.. |
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| 00:45.18 | Copilot | damnit |
| 00:45.21 | Thunder_Child | hmm..i dont remember being able to *drive* into the convention |
| 00:45.26 | Copilot | i just tried to set up a static IP and it didn't work |
| 00:46.27 | |Jelly| | So...you fail...is what you're saying, right? |
| 00:47.03 | Copilot | Yes |
| 00:47.47 | Copilot | I just want to host warcraft3 games :( |
| 00:49.30 | Kemayo | Copilot: Consider dyndns.org (or similar)? |
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| 00:51.20 | Kelfar | ok i got it to work now |
| 00:52.30 | buu | Uh |
| 00:52.35 | buu | Why do you need a static ip to host war3? |
| 00:53.14 | Kelfar | to forward my ports |
| 00:54.54 | buu | Sounds dirty. Can I help? |
| 00:56.04 | Kelfar | damn this is annoying |
| 00:56.16 | Kelfar | i need to go to 192.168.0.1. and access my router |
| 00:56.31 | Kelfar | but when I go there it says Do not define customer name. |
| 00:57.43 | |Jelly| | It's not rocket surgery Kelfarr! RTFM imo! :P |
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| 00:58.15 | Kelfar | I don't have a manual :( |
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| 01:05.00 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn|hockey? hockey? your such a canadian |
| 01:06.45 | Kelfar | I am also!! |
| 01:06.45 | Thunder_Child | so am i, but i enjoy teasing her about it |
| 01:07.54 | Thunder_Child | see, she likes being a canadian, so i have to think of ways to tease her about something she embraces....it's a fun challenge |
| 01:08.11 | Kelfar | oh haha |
| 01:08.36 | Kelfar | this is annoying i can't remember my password for my router :( |
| 01:09.21 | Thunder_Child | worst comes to worst you can try to factory reset it |
| 01:09.51 | Kelfar | whats the other meaning of crumpets bleet? |
| 01:10.07 | Thunder_Child | "In the UK, "crumpet" has been used since 1936 as a slang term for a woman regarded as physically attractive.[3] This slang usage also has vulgar applications, as it is sometimes used to describe female genitalia." |
| 01:10.19 | bleeter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crumpet#Slang_term |
| 01:10.33 | Thunder_Child | btw, i is blorb in case you ever get offended |
| 01:10.34 | Kelfar | oh nice |
| 01:10.52 | Kelfar | so him telling me to have tea and crumpets was fine for me |
| 01:13.32 | Kelfar | ugh 192.168.0.1. |
| 01:13.35 | Kelfar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856018767&sid=1 |
| 01:15.14 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:15.18 | Wobin | We'd use Strumpet |
| 01:15.22 | Wobin | if we used it at all |
| 01:17.10 | Thunder_Child | tuesday needs to come faster |
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| 01:25.41 | |Jelly| | TC and I finally agree on something. |
| 01:25.55 | Thunder_Child | scary |
| 01:26.07 | |Jelly| | I'm waiting for the world to explode. |
| 01:26.29 | Thunder_Child | that would have been funny if the server would have gone down right then |
| 01:26.39 | |Jelly| | Yeah it would have. |
| 01:28.40 | Thunder_Child | i'm redoing my UI atm |
| 01:28.59 | Thunder_Child | guillitione bitching at me got me thinking again |
| 01:29.07 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: assuming they'll still ship on Tuesday (admittedly the removal of the feedback tool in the latest PTR would be a good indicator of their current feelings) |
| 01:29.42 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, it's always a tuseday and i didnt specify..so i am covered |
| 01:30.37 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: fair point |
| 01:31.22 | Thunder_Child | but if you want specifics, the tuseday that wich shall bring the most holy of holy patches... 2.3 |
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| 01:35.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to update gentoo more often |
| 01:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | 136/647 updates! |
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| 01:46.28 | Thunder_Child | i dont get it...with all of the options with dahud, how come the ability to make vertical buffs isnt one of them |
| 01:47.02 | Kelfar | so how do i find out my password for my router? |
| 01:47.17 | Kelfar | if i have forgotten it |
| 01:47.21 | Thunder_Child | i am still going to suggest factory reset |
| 01:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | You typically just reset it |
| 01:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | If you haven't changed it, google is your friend |
| 01:47.45 | Thunder_Child | if you have, google is still your friend |
| 01:47.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 01:47.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Point |
| 01:48.34 | Kelfar | http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/iamlegend/trailer2/medium.html |
| 01:48.52 | Kelfar | what do you mean changed it? i dont even know what it is |
| 01:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Try admin//admin |
| 01:49.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Or admin//password |
| 01:49.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Or admin// |
| 01:49.20 | Thunder_Child | lol, it's still default |
| 01:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | If you don't know it, google "router model here default password" |
| 01:49.28 | ScytheBlade1 | And it'll come up within seconds usually |
| 01:49.47 | Thunder_Child | yeppers...also a good reason why you SHOULD change it |
| 01:50.41 | Kelfar | well the default password is admin |
| 01:51.05 | buu | On linksys, no username, password admin. |
| 01:51.12 | Kelfar | but the guy who set it up changed it i think and my dad never writes down important things like that so I don't know |
| 01:51.18 | Kelfar | i am using dlink |
| 01:51.50 | buu | Kelfar: Reset buttons! |
| 01:56.44 | Corrodias | try root // admin |
| 01:57.28 | Kelfar | nope |
| 01:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Reset button for you |
| 01:57.46 | Corrodias | hack it |
| 01:57.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And I hope that you're not on DSL that needs authentication, or you win a call to your ISP most likely |
| 01:57.56 | Kelfar | where is the reset button |
| 01:57.59 | Thunder_Child | i'm putting in some suggestions for dahud, anyone have any i should put in? |
| 01:58.10 | Corrodias | Thunder_Child: make it win the game for me |
| 01:58.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It's usually a small button on the back which requires a paperclip or something equally small and thin to press |
| 01:58.21 | Kelfar | and that will reset my password? |
| 01:58.24 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 01:58.28 | Thunder_Child | i dobut it |
| 01:58.29 | Kelfar | oh |
| 01:58.36 | Thunder_Child | doubt* |
| 01:58.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Hold it down for several seconds |
| 01:58.47 | Thunder_Child | reseting the box and the pass are usualy 2 diff things |
| 01:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | And yes |
| 01:58.48 | Corrodias | it might |
| 01:58.56 | Kelfar | well i don't need to reset the box |
| 01:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Note that "several" may mean as many as 60 seconds |
| 01:59.00 | Corrodias | it ought to reset ALL of the settings |
| 01:59.02 | |Jelly| | It might but I doubt it as well. |
| 01:59.17 | Thunder_Child | thats why you should google for your box and see what they have to say |
| 01:59.36 | |Jelly| | L2NetworkAdmin |
| 01:59.53 | Kelfar | i am not even the main computer on the router |
| 02:03.02 | Kelfar | ok i found their website |
| 02:03.09 | Kelfar | the reset button does reset the password |
| 02:03.11 | Kelfar | ty |
| 02:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Most of them do, if you hold them down for >5 seconds |
| 02:03.35 | Kelfar | yeah |
| 02:03.43 | Kelfar | Step 2 Hold paper clip down for 10 seconds and release. |
| 02:03.47 | Kelfar | thats what it says |
| 02:04.16 | *** part/#wowi-lounge ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 02:04.33 | |Jelly| | Who else finds it funny that Kelfarr of all people came here to ask a question that was found after like two seconds of google searching? |
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| 02:04.48 | Thunder_Child | i bet Kelfar doesnt |
| 02:05.03 | Kelfar | :( |
| 02:05.05 | Thunder_Child | /ns identify ScytheBlade1 Win |
| 02:05.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually screwed that up a while back (~1.5 years ago) |
| 02:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Did the infamous identify in channel, and boom, ghosted |
| 02:05.46 | Thunder_Child | sos did i...in here |
| 02:05.57 | Thunder_Child | but people were nicer than that |
| 02:06.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Long story short, my new password is verbally abusing the person who ghosted me :) |
| 02:06.17 | Thunder_Child | heh |
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| 02:07.35 | Fin | I am so fuckin pissed off with this piece of shit thomson modem, it's the second one I've had that not only fails at its given purpose for existence, but actually has negative value because it's SO FRUSTtive value because it's SO FRUSTRATING. I! hate! intermittent! network! disconnects! FUCK! |
| 02:07.53 | Corrodias | maybe you needs a new modem |
| 02:07.58 | Kelfar | so uh there isn't a reset button on the back of my router |
| 02:08.00 | Fin | do you think |
| 02:08.37 | Thunder_Child | Kelfar...did you do your research on the correct model type? |
| 02:09.54 | Fin | I can answer that without knowing ANYTHING about the situation |
| 02:10.17 | Fin | this is because I am omniscient and therefore god. kneel. |
| 02:10.45 | Fin | I wish I WAS god, I might be able to get a decent sodding network connection then |
| 02:10.56 | Kelfar | i just went to their website and clicked FAQ and read reset |
| 02:13.09 | Thunder_Child | someone whip me up a script for attaching eepannels to text boxes |
| 02:14.35 | |Jelly| | Parent them? |
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| 02:15.28 | Thunder_Child | right |
| 02:20.07 | Rayne | lewl |
| 02:20.14 | Rayne | MOH Airborne is fun :D |
| 02:23.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That prick in the "(OT) Punch and pie?" thread really annoy me |
| 02:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | s/annoy/annoys/ |
| 02:24.39 | Rayne | ? Link |
| 02:24.47 | ScytheBlade1 | No link on this box |
| 02:24.55 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's a non-stuck blue thread on the PTR forums |
| 02:26.38 | Rayne | I see it |
| 02:26.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Third from the bottom last I saw |
| 02:27.09 | Rayne | Im getting sick of the ret pali threads... |
| 02:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, join the club |
| 02:28.28 | Rayne | I think the WORST thread I saw was someone bitching that Ret / Prot isnt viable for OTing because of how deep things in ret are |
| 02:28.35 | Rayne | and I just toally fucking facepalmed |
| 02:28.37 | ScytheBlade1 | They need to change the PTR forums to a structured feedback and conversation "application" |
| 02:29.40 | Rayne | Theyre basicly saying make us warriors,eliminate spell damage. |
| 02:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Or just simply remove the ability for people to create topics there, and delete every bit of remotely off topic information |
| 02:39.50 | Rayne | or kill off stupidity |
| 02:40.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Good luck with that |
| 02:53.00 | Cidan | What is that spell |
| 02:53.11 | Cidan | that stacks 5 times on a mage, does AoE fire damage or something |
| 02:53.20 | Cidan | or was it a trinket effect? |
| 02:53.21 | Rayne | Scorch |
| 02:53.26 | Rayne | ? |
| 02:53.48 | Cidan | Is that it? |
| 02:53.53 | Cidan | I don't play a mage |
| 02:55.16 | Cidan | no that's not it |
| 02:55.20 | Cidan | it stacks on the player |
| 02:55.29 | Nechckn | Yes.. scorch does those things |
| 02:55.32 | Cidan | the casting player, and it's like an aura. |
| 02:55.38 | Nechckn | if you are a fire-spec'ed mage |
| 02:55.38 | Rayne | http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6443/wowscrnshot110907204449re9.jpg god its terrible :/ |
| 02:56.20 | Nechckn | oh... my... it stacks on the caster, you say, and not the target? that- dunno |
| 02:56.36 | Cidan | Yeah, there is this video I want to find again |
| 02:56.44 | Rayne | the only ability that stacks on the caster that I can think of is Arcane Blast |
| 02:56.48 | Tem | Cidan, you're thinking of arcane blast |
| 02:56.53 | Tem | it's not an aoe, though |
| 02:56.53 | Cidan | Am I? |
| 02:56.55 | Tem | it just looks like one |
| 02:56.57 | Cidan | No, then that's not it |
| 02:57.02 | Cidan | It was a bug a long time ago |
| 02:57.07 | Tem | oh |
| 02:57.09 | Cidan | Mages got +spell damage to it. |
| 02:57.14 | Cidan | and it stacked 5 times |
| 02:57.23 | Cidan | so you could walk in and do 5000 AoE damage per second |
| 02:57.26 | Cidan | to everything around you |
| 02:57.29 | Cidan | it was brutal. |
| 02:57.31 | Tem | oh |
| 02:57.39 | Tem | that was a spellsteal bug |
| 02:57.56 | Cidan | spellsteal? |
| 02:57.57 | Tem | we could spellsteal the fire damage aura from kobolds in AV |
| 02:58.08 | Tem | it got 100% spell damage |
| 02:58.21 | Tem | so if you had 700 spell damage, each tick would do around 750 damage |
| 02:58.27 | Cidan | Yeah, that's about right |
| 02:58.27 | Tem | and it stacked up to 7 times |
| 02:58.31 | Cidan | that's it! |
| 02:58.49 | Tem | the video you're looking for is "nerf spellsteal" |
| 02:58.53 | Nechckn | Holy dude... that is nuts! |
| 02:59.07 | Tem | faxmonkey did it |
| 02:59.20 | Cidan | You're a god Tem |
| 02:59.24 | Cidan | Thank you so much. |
| 03:00.14 | Tem | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2957347907101235447 btw |
| 03:03.16 | Fin | hey Tem! :) |
| 03:03.28 | Tem | fin, you pinged me like a month ago |
| 03:03.36 | Tem | did I ever get back to you? |
| 03:03.40 | Fin | yeah, cos you pinged me :) |
| 03:03.44 | Fin | or, hmm |
| 03:03.46 | Fin | was that Tekkub |
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| 03:04.08 | Fin | I wanted to ask something to one of you, and the other one /msged me "Fin?" and didn't reply when I replied |
| 03:04.17 | Fin | anyway! do you know anything about PvP Shadow Priests? |
| 03:04.23 | Kelfarr | fuck |
| 03:04.28 | Kelfarr | i reset my router |
| 03:04.47 | Kelfarr | and my whole internet went down and since i didn't know the password for that i had to phone them and reset it |
| 03:04.57 | Kelfarr | and now the password for the router still didnt reset |
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| 03:05.38 | Fin | the wonders if IRC |
| 03:05.45 | Tem | I know nothing about pvp shadow priests |
| 03:05.47 | Tem | since I'm a mage |
| 03:05.49 | Fin | -i+o |
| 03:05.49 | Rayne | if they reset it, its usually PASSWORD or ADMIN |
| 03:05.50 | Fin | aha |
| 03:05.51 | Tem | well, I know this |
| 03:05.55 | Kelfarr | they didn't reset it |
| 03:05.58 | Fin | so, I reckon, you must've been the one that /msged me :) |
| 03:06.03 | Kelfarr | i phoned me internet provider not my router |
| 03:06.07 | Kelfarr | my* |
| 03:06.10 | Fin | or was it another T... arg |
| 03:06.11 | Tem | if I counterspell somthing shadow or they miss their fear, I usually win |
| 03:06.27 | Fin | hmm, yeah, but if you don't, you don't :P |
| 03:06.29 | Kelfarr | it says on their website "Note: The factory defaults username is admin, and there is no password. " |
| 03:06.36 | Kelfarr | but that doesn't work... |
| 03:06.48 | Fin | I'm just experiencing the whole PvP thing for the first time, it's quite cool |
| 03:07.05 | Fin | I never found it fun before |
| 03:07.17 | Fin | but my two main characters before were a tank and a holy priest |
| 03:07.43 | Fin | there should be some sort of scoreboard for healers as well |
| 03:08.06 | Fin | I mean, it gets counted, but there's no incentive for them, they don't get extra honour or anything |
| 03:10.15 | Fin | Tem: so, uhm, do you by any chance remember what it was you /msged me about? I doubt it's relevant anymore of course |
| 03:10.28 | Fin | or you would've /msged me again |
| 03:10.30 | Tem | no, I don't remember |
| 03:10.34 | Fin | oh well |
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| 03:10.47 | Tem | we were discussing something and I went afk afterwards |
| 03:10.54 | Tem | during my afk period, you said Tem: ? |
| 03:11.05 | Tem | I didn't see it until much later |
| 03:11.14 | Tem | and I don't remember what happened from there |
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| 03:11.50 | Fin | [mimi:pgl]:~/logs/irssi/Freenode $ cat tem\|afk.10-29.log |
| 03:11.50 | Fin | --- Log opened Mon Oct 29 00:10:28 2007 |
| 03:11.50 | Fin | 00:10 [-> Tem|AFK] *poke* |
| 03:11.50 | Fin | --- Log closed Mon Oct 29 00:16:25 2007 |
| 03:12.04 | Fin | we could just make something up |
| 03:12.16 | Fin | so hey, you like bananas? |
| 03:12.17 | Tem | hehe |
| 03:12.55 | Fin | I think they're OK in theory but I rarely actually eat them |
| 03:12.59 | Rayne | BANANA! |
| 03:13.04 | Fin | sometimes I buy them and they sit somewhere until they're brown |
| 03:13.53 | Tem | ooh |
| 03:13.55 | Tem | I have oreos |
| 03:15.07 | Fin | sounds like some sort of condition |
| 03:15.18 | Fin | like ADD or tourettes |
| 03:15.49 | Kelfarr | god this is stupid |
| 03:16.06 | Fin | well sorry |
| 03:16.59 | Fin | isn't that what IRC is for, talking shit? |
| 03:17.01 | Kelfarr | not what you are talking about just my stupid router |
| 03:17.05 | Fin | oh |
| 03:17.08 | Fin | I've got one of those |
| 03:17.18 | Kelfarr | my password and username won't reset |
| 03:17.23 | Kelfarr | so i can forward my ports |
| 03:17.41 | Thunder_Child | still? |
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| 03:17.45 | Kelfarr | yes still |
| 03:17.51 | Kelfarr | i reset it and everything |
| 03:18.06 | Fin | what type of router is it? |
| 03:18.17 | Thunder_Child | and you check their website for the default UN/PW right? |
| 03:18.17 | Kelfarr | dlink |
| 03:18.23 | Fin | ew |
| 03:18.33 | Kelfarr | yes on their website it says when you reset the default UW is admin and no password |
| 03:18.42 | Fin | try using the username "root" |
| 03:18.45 | Kelfarr | did |
| 03:18.47 | Kelfarr | nothing |
| 03:19.05 | Fin | what do you mean by "nothing"? did it say "incorrect login" or..? |
| 03:19.05 | Kelfarr | and my router model isn't even on their website... |
| 03:19.16 | Kelfarr | it doesn't say that just pops the logon window up again |
| 03:19.27 | Fin | is this a web logiN? |
| 03:19.29 | Fin | -shift |
| 03:19.33 | Kelfarr | yes |
| 03:19.37 | Fin | try telnetting to it |
| 03:19.59 | Kelfarr | says i need to type this in 192.168.0.1. |
| 03:20.07 | Kelfarr | so i type that in the url bar |
| 03:20.12 | Kelfarr | and pops up a login box |
| 03:20.19 | Kelfarr | telnetting? |
| 03:20.43 | Fin | "telnet 192.168.0.1" from a command prompt |
| 03:21.00 | Kelfarr | ok |
| 03:21.28 | Kelfarr | nope login failed |
| 03:21.38 | Fin | did it give you a login prompt? |
| 03:21.54 | Kelfarr | on the command promt it did |
| 03:22.21 | Kelfarr | its just i don't remember my password |
| 03:22.28 | Kelfarr | my dad never wrote it down |
| 03:22.35 | Fin | you said that you've reset it, though? |
| 03:22.39 | Kelfarr | yes |
| 03:22.52 | Kelfarr | and then when i started my internet i had to login to my ISP |
| 03:23.05 | Kelfarr | and then i did that |
| 03:23.09 | Kelfarr | maybe i should do it again |
| 03:23.11 | Fin | so, try admin / admin; root / admin; admin / <nothing>; root / <nothing>; |
| 03:23.23 | Fin | from the command prompt |
| 03:23.40 | Fin | how are you connected, btw? |
| 03:23.47 | Fin | I mean, now |
| 03:24.06 | Kelfarr | like what do you mean? |
| 03:24.39 | Fin | well |
| 03:25.09 | Fin | when you type "telnet 192.168.0.1" it should try and connect to your router, and give you a username: or login: prompt |
| 03:25.30 | Kelfarr | yeah it says Login: |
| 03:25.45 | Fin | try using the username "admin" with the password "admin" there, then if that doesn't work "root" with pass "admin", then if that doesn't work ... admin / <nothing>; root / <nothing>; |
| 03:25.48 | Kelfarr | and then i enter the username then when i press enter it says Password: |
| 03:25.52 | Fin | it's just an idea |
| 03:25.53 | Kelfarr | i tried all of those |
| 03:26.02 | Fin | similar things have worked for me before |
| 03:26.36 | Fin | one time almost exactly the same as you - it said the default username was "admin" on the website, and it was "root" |
| 03:26.45 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 03:26.48 | Fin | which actually I guess *isn't* the same as you - but the beginning bit is |
| 03:26.56 | Fin | I think you may not have reset it properly |
| 03:27.10 | Kelfarr | yeah I will try again |
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| 03:30.28 | Copilot | ugh this is stupid |
| 03:32.35 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/clips/how-to-deal-with-obnoxious-bluetooth-headset-talkers-321179.php |
| 03:33.05 | Copilot | wow their website is retarded |
| 03:33.34 | Copilot | i go to their canadian website and choose my router and then it says "this router is not supported in USA" but i wasnt on the USA site I was on the canadian one |
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| 03:44.06 | Rayne | hmm |
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| 03:52.20 | |Jelly| | !c us velen azerin |
| 03:52.22 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Azerin, Level 70 Human Mage (12/47/2). 6653 HP; 9371 Mana; 186 mana regen; 7 mp5; 161 spell crit; 23 spell hit; 378 +spell dmg/heal; 4.98% dodge;[[ TBR: 1067 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25unaj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2r4wea ][ Updated: Fri Nov 9 18:57:23 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:53.06 | Copilot | !c us illidan Furi |
| 03:53.08 | ThraeBot | Copilot: Furi, Level 70 Undead Rogue (19/42/0). 10954 HP; +10 Energy; 1320 AP; 165.900 Melee DPS; 27.99% melee crit; 46 melee hit; 25.81% dodge; 415 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 2053 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2aq658 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/362ta7 ][ Updated: Fri Nov 9 18:58:09 2007 EST ]] |
| 03:53.22 | Copilot | he has both of illidans blades :D |
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| 03:56.50 | Kelfar | shrig is soo stupid |
| 03:57.19 | Kelfar | someone is asking about coding a mod and asking how to code it so the addon knows if its a boss and shrig just says "why not just use dbm making your own is stupid" |
| 03:57.34 | Kelfar | he doesn't understand part of these forums are for making addons |
| 03:58.34 | Rayne | I dont know if his UI or Stupidity is worse |
| 03:58.53 | Rayne | Its close |
| 03:59.19 | |Jelly| | It's pretty fucking close. |
| 03:59.26 | Kelfar | just look |
| 03:59.27 | Kelfar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856018878&sid=1 |
| 03:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds like a thread I need to be involved in |
| 03:59.41 | Kelfar | there is the lin |
| 03:59.43 | Kelfar | link |
| 04:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to see his UI now |
| 04:00.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, ha, in his sig |
| 04:00.57 | ScytheBlade1 | <-- slow |
| 04:03.22 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.57 | Rayne | O_o |
| 04:04.36 | |Jelly| | It's ok though...he types like old people fuck so I doubt I'd really have had any respect for him anyway. |
| 04:04.48 | Rayne | oh my god I was sitting idle outside kara and I just got rolled by 3 horde raids |
| 04:04.49 | Rayne | wow. |
| 04:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | You're quite the verbose one, Jelly. |
| 04:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Stating the obvious here and all, but still. |
| 04:06.28 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 04:08.11 | Rayne | hehe, I love hiding inside the portal at Kara |
| 04:09.35 | Osagasu | Especially fun as a aff lock or fire mage on a PvP server |
| 04:09.50 | Osagasu | Howl of Terror people crowding the door or disorient them when they open the gate |
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| 04:16.08 | Kelfarr | ok well thats 4 resets now |
| 04:16.15 | Kelfarr | still hasn't given me the default passworf |
| 04:16.17 | Kelfarr | word* |
| 04:16.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Hold down the button for several seconds |
| 04:16.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Some routers, as few as five |
| 04:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Others, up to a minute |
| 04:16.52 | Kelfarr | i did for 10 |
| 04:17.00 | Kelfarr | says on their website 10 |
| 04:17.02 | Kelfarr | seconds |
| 04:17.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Make it 11 to be safe ;P |
| 04:17.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Just saying |
| 04:17.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It won't hurt if you hold it longer |
| 04:17.25 | Kelfarr | i actually did it for 12 |
| 04:17.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:17.30 | |Jelly| | 90 |
| 04:17.30 | Kelfarr | it resets fine |
| 04:17.40 | ScytheBlade1 | What brand? |
| 04:17.47 | Kelfarr | like the wlan led turns off like it should |
| 04:17.48 | Kelfarr | dlink |
| 04:18.07 | Kelfarr | i just wish i knew this damn password |
| 04:18.07 | |Jelly| | But what I think they're trying to get across is there's a difference in resetting settings and resetting EVERYTHING. Most people don't want things like their username/pw changed on a simple reset. |
| 04:18.17 | Kelfarr | i do want it reset |
| 04:18.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Is that for a factory defaults? |
| 04:18.24 | Kelfarr | yes |
| 04:18.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Or for a simple reset? |
| 04:18.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Make sure |
| 04:18.28 | Kelfarr | 10 seconds for factory reset |
| 04:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
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| 04:18.45 | Kelfarr | http://support.dlink.ca/faq/view.asp?prod_id=976&question=General-Routers |
| 04:19.25 | Fin | what's your exact model? |
| 04:19.28 | Kelfarr | and when I go to the contact section and choose my router it says it does't exist in USA even though I am on the canadian website |
| 04:19.33 | Kelfarr | my model is dsl-604+ |
| 04:19.38 | Kelfarr | its not even on the website |
| 04:19.45 | Fin | have you consulted the d-link office near you? |
| 04:19.58 | Kelfarr | nope it won't allow me |
| 04:20.08 | Fin | perhaps you should contact your network administrator |
| 04:20.19 | Kelfarr | who would that be |
| 04:20.48 | Kelfarr | see go here |
| 04:20.49 | Kelfarr | http://support.dlink.ca/contact/# |
| 04:20.54 | Kelfarr | choose dsl then 604+ |
| 04:21.03 | Kelfarr | and see what it says |
| 04:21.13 | Fin | how much did this router cost? |
| 04:21.21 | Kelfarr | no clue |
| 04:21.25 | Kelfarr | came with the internet |
| 04:21.30 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/woman_flips_car_on_gate.html |
| 04:21.32 | Fin | have you considered just getting another router? |
| 04:21.55 | Kelfarr | not really this is the first time I have played with it, its just I can't remember the password |
| 04:22.07 | Kelfarr | and username |
| 04:22.12 | Kelfarr | because my dad didn't write it down |
| 04:22.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's possible that your ISP set them |
| 04:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Not overly likely, but possible |
| 04:22.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Which would explain why you don't remember it |
| 04:22.40 | Kelfarr | maybe |
| 04:22.48 | Kelfarr | well i didn't set it up so I wouldn't know it anyway |
| 04:22.53 | Fin | who's your ISP? they might have installed some sort of custom firmware |
| 04:22.59 | Kelfarr | my isp is telus |
| 04:23.02 | Kelfarr | and I phoned them tonight |
| 04:23.12 | Kelfarr | because my parents didn't even know the password for their website either |
| 04:23.18 | Kelfarr | so I had to phone and reset it |
| 04:23.31 | Kelfarr | to logon to our internet |
| 04:23.37 | Fin | http://support.dlink.ca/telus/products.htm |
| 04:23.48 | Fin | looks like maybe they did |
| 04:23.55 | Fin | hahah |
| 04:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 04:24.02 | Fin | "Wanted: Telus DSL-604+ console username/password" |
| 04:24.22 | Fin | "the username/password combination that works for the stupid Telus version of DSL-604+ is admin/telus" |
| 04:24.35 | Kelfarr | ok thanks |
| 04:24.39 | Fin | http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13110525 |
| 04:24.48 | Kelfarr | worked!! |
| 04:24.50 | Kelfarr | thank you soo much |
| 04:24.56 | Kelfarr | god i love you |
| 04:25.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Gogo google. |
| 04:25.04 | Fin | http://www.google.com/search?q=telus+d-link+firmware |
| 04:25.14 | Fin | yeah well |
| 04:25.23 | Fin | you'd have to guess that telus installed some custom shit |
| 04:25.37 | Fin | that's why 604+ wasn't listed on the official site I guess |
| 04:25.41 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 04:26.52 | Fin | "Here's a direct quote from the last email I received from D-Link CA: |
| 04:26.54 | Fin | the console is not meant to be accessed by anyone. The user name and password for the console ports on these units is not given out under any circumstances. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause" |
| 04:27.02 | Fin | wankers |
| 04:27.10 | Kelfarr | wow |
| 04:27.19 | Kelfarr | they sure don't want me forwarding my ports lol |
| 04:27.37 | Fin | you could use port forwarding for PIRACY and COPYRIGHT THEFT |
| 04:27.45 | Fin | probably best to just assume you're a criminal |
| 04:28.03 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 04:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | RIP OiNK RIP |
| 04:28.30 | Rayne | Potato Chips n Soul Cream <3 |
| 04:28.33 | Fin | Long live the Internet Backlash! |
| 04:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | qft |
| 04:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got an invite to waffles waiting |
| 04:28.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Just need to get off comcast... |
| 04:29.04 | Kelfarr | i didn't use oink much |
| 04:29.08 | Kelfarr | so i can't get onto waffles |
| 04:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I sure did - in terms of bandwidth |
| 04:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | FLAC is the way to go :) |
| 04:29.26 | ScytheBlade1 | And at 500MB or so per album, well |
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| 04:39.16 | Kelfarr | yay i am doing it! |
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| 04:43.03 | Kelfarr | uh oh.. |
| 04:43.11 | Osagasu | ? |
| 04:43.13 | Kelfarr | the virtual server list is full |
| 04:43.20 | Kelfarr | so I can't get the last port opened |
| 04:43.34 | Kelfarr | and I don't know if I can delete any of the other ones |
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| 04:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh right, my svn binaries are borked due to being linked to an old version of expat that no longer exists |
| 04:47.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 383/647! |
| 04:47.19 | Kelfarr | scythe i am forwarding all my ports for warcraft3 and there isn't enough room on the virtual servers list I add them too :( |
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| 04:47.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you need all of those entries in the virtual servers? |
| 04:48.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Note that War3 only needs one port to work, and you can configure that port |
| 04:48.04 | Kelfarr | I don't know what they do |
| 04:48.08 | Kelfarr | oh really? |
| 04:48.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 04:48.21 | Kelfarr | it says on portforward.com it uses 6112 to 6119 |
| 04:48.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be incorrect |
| 04:48.38 | Kelfarr | oh ok |
| 04:48.42 | Kelfarr | so which port should i use then |
| 04:48.42 | ScytheBlade1 | If you fire up War3 and select Options, and the Network |
| 04:48.45 | Kelfarr | oh ok |
| 04:48.47 | Kelfarr | thanks |
| 04:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You can configure "Game Data Port" |
| 04:48.50 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 04:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Also note that you only need that port forwarded to host a game |
| 04:51.51 | Kelfarr | Yes I know |
| 04:51.54 | Kelfarr | I want to host |
| 04:51.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Just making sure |
| 04:52.11 | Kelfarr | Thanks you have been a great help, Fin also. |
| 04:52.23 | Kelfarr | This is the one part of the computer I know nothing about |
| 04:52.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I do networking day in and day out ;) |
| 04:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Admittedly, not with home DSL modems... |
| 04:54.14 | Kelfarr | Ok after I am done forwarding them I don't need to reset the router do I? |
| 04:54.47 | ScytheBlade1 | You shouldn't, no |
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| 04:54.56 | Kelfarr | ok |
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| 04:56.33 | Thunder_Child | i think it's less trouble to spend 2-3 thousand dollars and buy a cisco router...and learn to config a cisco IOS |
| 04:56.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, screw cisco |
| 04:57.07 | Thunder_Child | i dont like cisco....but they work |
| 04:57.23 | Thunder_Child | or rather i dont like configuring them |
| 04:58.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's true, they do work |
| 04:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And usually very well too |
| 04:59.12 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i just got my charachter laid by a hot redheaded sorcerer....i didnt know Cairenn was in "The Witcher" |
| 04:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | o_0 |
| 04:59.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Is this a game that the entire channel should be playing? |
| 05:01.08 | Thunder_Child | i doubt it...it's not all that interesting yet |
| 05:01.29 | Thunder_Child | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/thewitcher/index.html?tag=result;title;0 |
| 05:02.24 | Thunder_Child | http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=915112&img=29&sid=undefined |
| 05:11.10 | Cidan | http://bash.org/?666666 |
| 05:11.12 | Cidan | that so wins |
| 05:12.08 | ScytheBlade1 | lol nice |
| 05:12.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to wonder if they hard coded that |
| 05:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, I can't +1 the quote |
| 05:13.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, ha, I just did |
| 05:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Owned |
| 05:13.53 | Cidan | I just undid it |
| 05:13.54 | Cidan | :P |
| 05:14.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Good |
| 05:19.29 | Kelfarr | well no one can get into my warcraft 3 game |
| 05:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Forward both TCP and UDP |
| 05:20.05 | Kelfarr | I did both |
| 05:20.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Check your local computer firewall |
| 05:20.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Optimally just turn it off completly |
| 05:20.32 | Cidan | Kelfarr: on bnet? |
| 05:20.43 | Kelfarr | yes on bnet |
| 05:20.59 | Cidan | do you use a firewall? |
| 05:21.24 | Kelfarr | my windows one |
| 05:21.47 | Cidan | just turn it off |
| 05:22.04 | Kelfarr | ok |
| 05:22.13 | Cidan | Any windows based firewall is crap anyways |
| 05:22.25 | Kelfarr | yeah i know |
| 05:22.28 | Cidan | well the "pretty" windows firewalls |
| 05:22.31 | Kelfarr | i didn't turn it on |
| 05:22.49 | Cidan | the straight TCP/UDP filtering is fine when you set it up |
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| 05:23.39 | Kelfarr | thanks |
| 05:23.40 | Kelfarr | it worked |
| 05:36.52 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/news-anchor-cant-stop-laughing-at-model.html |
| 05:37.37 | art3mis | <FatElvis> The only that comes from Texas are steers and... |
| 05:37.37 | art3mis | <josh> ... Jews? |
| 05:39.31 | art3mis | http://bash.org/?8618 |
| 05:46.13 | art3mis | * The_Cat plays 'Godsmack - Voodoo' |
| 05:46.13 | art3mis | <T-112> playing: Daft Punk & Stardust - Music Sounds Better with You.mp3 128kbps 6.77min |
| 05:46.13 | art3mis | <T-112> randomly.. |
| 05:46.13 | art3mis | * %Storm plays: Look I'm fucking special cause I'm telling everyone what shitty music I'm listening to by The No one gives a fucks |
| 05:46.13 | art3mis | <Gnome> Good song. |
| 05:47.48 | Fin | ssss |
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| 05:48.52 | Esamynn | ~lart art3mis |
| 05:48.52 | purl | slaps art3mis around with a large trout |
| 05:48.59 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.06 | Esamynn | how wonderfully appropriate |
| 05:49.08 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 05:49.08 | purl | aw, gee, Esamynn |
| 05:50.52 | Fin | spear chucker motherfucker |
| 05:50.52 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 05:51.17 | Fin | but slightly? |
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| 05:52.42 | Ktron | So, I'm way out of date... LuaPad still, or are there more options for ingame LUA coding? |
| 05:54.59 | Rayne | http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/owreese/WoWScrnShot_110607_201949.jpg ;_; |
| 05:55.32 | art3mis | wow i should go to bed |
| 05:55.49 | art3mis | i remote into a machine and type ipconfig /release without thinking |
| 05:56.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Smooth |
| 05:56.24 | art3mis | meant to type renew ;P |
| 05:56.52 | Fin | I've done shit like that before |
| 05:57.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I once opened up the hub server at work over RDP |
| 05:57.10 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/not-my-type-of-fun.html |
| 05:57.16 | mikma | wanna ride that? |
| 05:57.17 | Fin | it's always like, totally clear in my head, I know what I'm doing, yes, that's right, /release... hmm |
| 05:57.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Open the NIC control panel, hit properties... and realized that I had just disabled the NIC, not opened the properties panel |
| 05:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | "Whoops" |
| 05:58.15 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:58.31 | art3mis | im hoping that at some point over the weekend itll just decide that it needs to refresh |
| 05:58.33 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:59.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It won't |
| 06:03.25 | Ktron | we'll try ForAllIndentsAndPurposes with LuaSlinger... |
| 06:03.31 | Ktron | see how things are working |
| 06:03.47 | Ktron | mikma, that's insane |
| 06:04.13 | art3mis | thats why physicists arent allowed to operate carnival rides ;P |
| 06:04.26 | Ktron | you mean design |
| 06:04.32 | Ktron | if they were allowed to operate |
| 06:04.35 | art3mis | no they design em ;P |
| 06:04.40 | Ktron | they probably wouldn't turn it off |
| 06:04.41 | art3mis | thats why roller coasters rule |
| 06:05.45 | mikma | both of them rule |
| 06:05.57 | mikma | we have a ride like that in finland, not spinning that much tho |
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| 06:15.00 | Ktron | yay, LuaSlinger and FAIAP still work:) |
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| 06:24.59 | Ktron | wait, /target isn't protected, but TargetUnit() is? |
| 06:28.14 | batrick | target is a macro command... |
| 06:32.31 | Ktron | batrick, can't scripts call macro commands? |
| 06:32.32 | Ktron | hm |
| 06:32.53 | Rayne | we just whiped on Opera in Kara :/ |
| 06:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | *wiped |
| 06:33.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 06:33.12 | |Jelly| | I read that was Oprah. |
| 06:33.16 | |Jelly| | And lol'd. |
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| 06:33.21 | Rayne | no Jelly we didnt wipe on Gruul |
| 06:33.22 | Rayne | :O |
| 06:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:35.50 | Ktron | so you really can't target with an addon anymore? |
| 06:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Not without secure frames |
| 06:36.10 | Ktron | secure frames? |
| 06:36.13 | Ktron | being Blizzards? |
| 06:36.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes but no |
| 06:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Blizzard added code in 2.0 that allows you to do things like target and cast spells |
| 06:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's their code, but... ;) |
| 06:36.45 | Cidan | wahoo! |
| 06:36.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not the one to ask on the topic though |
| 06:36.55 | Cidan | wine .49 out |
| 06:36.58 | Ktron | hm |
| 06:37.05 | Ktron | I'll have to ask during more regular hours |
| 06:37.09 | Cidan | Ktron: Let me explain |
| 06:37.15 | batrick | mm |
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| 06:37.24 | batrick | . |
| 06:37.42 | Cidan | Ktron: You used to be able to call a function in the Lua code, TargetUnit("player") or "raid1" or "party1" |
| 06:38.17 | Cidan | When you would bind this to an action, say on a frame, frame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() TargetUnit("player"); end); |
| 06:38.20 | Cidan | all was well |
| 06:38.26 | Cidan | You could click on frames, target them |
| 06:38.27 | Cidan | woosh |
| 06:38.30 | art3mis | yay smartbuff |
| 06:38.31 | Cidan | worked great |
| 06:38.51 | Cidan | But people *cough*myself*cough* abused this, and worked to make healing and stuff too easy |
| 06:39.14 | Cidan | ie: lists of players that would autosort to the lowest HP on top |
| 06:39.18 | Cidan | then just click to heal, etc |
| 06:39.37 | Cidan | So Blizzard made something called "secure" frames, you can't really SetScript anymore |
| 06:39.55 | Cidan | but you have to set what each mouse click does, left click targets, right click casts a spell of your choice |
| 06:39.58 | Cidan | etc |
| 06:40.29 | Cidan | What Blizzard did though, is you can NOT change this mid-battle, nor can you change what "unit" the frame is refering to in all the targeting and casting |
| 06:40.32 | Cidan | Not in battle anyways |
| 06:40.54 | Cidan | So you can do pretty much everything you could before these changes OUT of battle |
| 06:41.00 | Cidan | But when you're in battle, you're "locked" down |
| 06:41.18 | Cidan | Ktron: God I hope you didn't AFK. |
| 06:41.26 | Ktron | I'm here |
| 06:41.26 | Cidan | Ktron: I may just have to kill you if you did. |
| 06:41.28 | Cidan | Oh good. |
| 06:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You can technically still do semi-automated buffing out of combat |
| 06:41.58 | Ktron | Cidan, TargetUnit() doesn't seem to even work out of battle |
| 06:42.04 | Cidan | it won't |
| 06:42.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope. |
| 06:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's 100% protected |
| 06:42.12 | Cidan | TargetUnit is deprecated for end users |
| 06:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | You /must/ use secure frames to target things |
| 06:42.17 | Ktron | bleh |
| 06:42.37 | Cidan | In other words, the game logic can NOT figure out what to target for you |
| 06:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Same applies to casting spells |
| 06:42.39 | Ktron | I used to have a fun lua script that would basically target every letter from a to z and report back on what was around |
| 06:42.51 | Cidan | That won't work anymore. |
| 06:42.54 | Ktron | Guess that's moot |
| 06:43.01 | Cidan | 2938epio |
| 06:43.05 | Cidan | ~dict moot |
| 06:43.18 | Cidan | moot does NOT mean pointless |
| 06:43.23 | Cidan | I have no idea why people think that. |
| 06:43.31 | Cidan | moot means "worth of argument or thought" |
| 06:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | "(1 of 12)" |
| 06:43.41 | Cidan | yes, the OTHER term |
| 06:43.43 | Cidan | for moot |
| 06:43.44 | Cidan | DOES mean |
| 06:43.48 | Cidan | not worth of argument |
| 06:43.50 | Cidan | but ONLY |
| 06:43.54 | Cidan | in a legal setting |
| 06:43.57 | Cidan | or when dealing with law |
| 06:43.59 | Ktron | http://www.google.com/search?q=define:moot |
| 06:44.20 | Ktron | Apparently google thinks it also means a vagin |
| 06:44.22 | Ktron | a |
| 06:44.25 | Ktron | Ah well |
| 06:44.31 | ScytheBlade1 | .... rofl |
| 06:44.39 | Ktron | I guess that's impossible now |
| 06:44.45 | Cidan | Correct, it is. |
| 06:44.55 | Cidan | The idea is, you can't have the game pick out the logic for you |
| 06:45.02 | Cidan | you have to do it via player driven events. |
| 06:45.12 | Cidan | It's a good thing they switched it anyways |
| 06:45.22 | Ktron | so PROTECTED is really 'unusable' |
| 06:45.23 | Ktron | lol |
| 06:45.25 | Thunder_Child | ok, i can now offcially NOT recomend Flood |
| 06:45.28 | Cidan | no |
| 06:45.37 | Cidan | Protected can have a double meaning |
| 06:45.46 | Cidan | some things on the wiki say protected |
| 06:45.54 | Cidan | but can still be used, just out of combat |
| 06:45.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I found that out the hard way... |
| 06:46.00 | Cidan | other things are just outright not allowed |
| 06:46.27 | Ktron | too bad wowwiki didn't distinguish |
| 06:46.40 | Cidan | Yeah, we talked about editing at some point |
| 06:46.47 | Cidan | guess no one got around to it |
| 06:47.05 | Ktron | Probably a lot of work, I understand that |
| 06:47.41 | ScytheBlade1 | The "lot of work" is testing all of the functions that you're not sure about |
| 06:47.44 | ScytheBlade1 | In and out of combat |
| 06:47.47 | Ktron | you can't call a macro from a script either, right? |
| 06:47.55 | Cidan | correct-o |
| 06:48.01 | Cidan | er wait |
| 06:48.02 | Cidan | hm |
| 06:48.04 | Cidan | no, you can't |
| 06:48.13 | Tem|AFK | <Dungeons and Dragqueens> |
| 06:48.31 | Ktron | bleh |
| 06:48.39 | Thunder_Child | nice to know you have a hobby Tem|AFK |
| 06:48.40 | Cidan | Lulz Tem. |
| 06:48.43 | Cidan | rofl |
| 06:48.51 | Cidan | Ktron: It's for the better really. |
| 06:48.54 | Ktron | Can macros call macros... now that's the question |
| 06:49.03 | Cidan | Ktron: Nope. |
| 06:49.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Wasn't there a /click exploit a bit back? Or was that not an exploit? |
| 06:49.23 | Ktron | And I bet macros can't edit themselves while running |
| 06:49.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, no |
| 06:49.29 | Cidan | Ktron: nope. |
| 06:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That they cannot do |
| 06:49.51 | Cidan | Ktron: Give up, there's no way around it. There was a SMALL bug a while back that I know someone found, but they reported it to Blizzard |
| 06:49.58 | Cidan | Few even know it existed, :D |
| 06:50.10 | Thunder_Child | damn, demoniod has been closed down for the moment |
| 06:50.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Wasn't it a stack exploit or something? |
| 06:50.22 | Cidan | ScytheBlade1: Nah, not that |
| 06:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I read the topic on the forums |
| 06:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Didn't understand it though ;P |
| 06:52.43 | Ktron | Cidan, get the target's name? |
| 06:52.50 | Ktron | (current target) |
| 06:55.15 | Ktron | Bleh |
| 06:55.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywho sleep |
| 06:55.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Ktron: UnitName("target") ? |
| 06:55.34 | Ktron | ScytheBlade1, maybe |
| 06:55.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Ktron: name, server = UnitName("target") ? |
| 06:55.40 | ScytheBlade1 | To be precise |
| 06:56.07 | ScytheBlade1 | If you want to get the name of your target, that's what you would use. |
| 06:56.21 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're using secure frames, you can use either a name or a unit ID |
| 06:57.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That said, actually sleeping now, good luck |
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| 06:58.12 | Ktron | heh |
| 06:58.19 | Ktron | and I think I broke my client |
| 06:58.20 | Ktron | ah well |
| 06:58.25 | Ktron | g'night :) |
| 06:59.15 | batrick | >>>return "sup" |
| 06:59.16 | LuaBot | batrick: > sup |
| 06:59.19 | batrick | \o/ |
| 06:59.50 | Ktron | Lol... effectively while true do t=t.."foobar" end |
| 07:00.24 | batrick | please don't do mean things like that to luabot :( |
| 07:00.25 | batrick | lol |
| 07:00.35 | batrick | i haven't put cpu protection in yet >.> |
| 07:03.57 | Cidan | batrick: have you protected globals? |
| 07:03.58 | LuaBot | Cidan, Are you kidding? |
| 07:04.49 | batrick | Cidan: yes |
| 07:05.03 | Cidan | >>>math.abs(-1); |
| 07:05.14 | batrick | it's just like the reg interpretter |
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| 07:05.18 | Cidan | >>>return math.abs(-1); |
| 07:05.18 | LuaBot | Cidan: > 1 |
| 07:05.19 | batrick | >>>=math.abs(-1) |
| 07:05.19 | LuaBot | batrick: > 1 |
| 07:05.40 | Cidan | >>>math.abs = nil; return math.abs(-1); |
| 07:05.40 | LuaBot | Cidan: > [string "0"]:1: attempt to call field 'abs' (a nil value) |
| 07:05.44 | Cidan | ;P |
| 07:05.52 | Cidan | >>>return math.abs(-1); |
| 07:05.52 | LuaBot | Cidan: > [string "0"]:1: attempt to call field 'abs' (a nil value) |
| 07:06.18 | batrick | i'm not sure that's something i want to prevent |
| 07:06.26 | Cidan | I'm pretty sure it is |
| 07:06.58 | Cidan | >>>for k,v in pairs(math) do math[k] = nil; end |
| 07:07.03 | Cidan | That's why. |
| 07:07.08 | Cidan | Now go reload the bot, :D |
| 07:07.09 | batrick | yes i realize that |
| 07:07.25 | Cidan | We had some schmuck do it to clad's bot a while ago |
| 07:08.13 | batrick | i thought when you asked if i was protecting globals if I was not letting you have access to all the reg lua globals |
| 07:09.45 | Cidan | Nope, I mean overwriting them |
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| 07:09.56 | Cidan | >>>math.floor(2.45); |
| 07:09.57 | LuaBot | Cidan: > [string "0"]:1: attempt to call field 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 07:10.20 | Cidan | it's crummy, but some people will abuse it |
| 07:12.49 | Thunder_Child | like 75% of the people in this channel |
| 07:12.55 | Cidan | pretty much |
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| 07:15.43 | Cidan | holy crap |
| 07:15.58 | Cidan | tons of new DX8 api calls imped in new wine |
| 07:15.58 | Cairenn | blessed poop |
| 07:16.14 | Cidan | hm |
| 07:16.18 | Cidan | I must use that line one dya. |
| 07:16.20 | Cidan | er, Day. |
| 07:16.43 | Thunder_Child | does cog's macro post say how to find frame names? |
| 07:17.40 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=691 is far more apt |
| 07:18.55 | Thunder_Child | nvm, i answered my own question |
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| 07:27.07 | Rayne | hmm |
| 07:27.20 | |Jelly| | GO BACK TO SLEEP |
| 07:29.34 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, how rude...i am shocked at your behavior |
| 07:29.46 | |Jelly| | You're full of shit. |
| 07:29.48 | art3mis | yeah no doubt |
| 07:30.04 | art3mis | the kelly *I* know is kind meek and caring and would never say bad thigns or raise his voice. |
| 07:30.06 | art3mis | err jelly |
| 07:30.32 | Rayne | Me? |
| 07:30.33 | Thunder_Child | i dont want to know any kelly's you call "him" |
| 07:30.38 | Rayne | :( |
| 07:30.44 | art3mis | of course the jelly i know wouldnt be wastig his time on there and would be getting off his fat ass to make me a profile theme swapper |
| 07:31.00 | art3mis | i know quite a few him kellys |
| 07:31.09 | |Jelly| | I'M BIG BONED! |
| 07:31.11 | art3mis | Kelly's Heroes for example |
| 07:31.20 | Thunder_Child | again art3mis, with the ammount of time you have wasted trying to get otheres to do it you proly could have done it yourself |
| 07:31.25 | art3mis | and clint eastwood could totally kick yer ass |
| 07:31.40 | Thunder_Child | ya, but he is not called kelly eastwood |
| 07:31.50 | art3mis | tc: nah, the amount of time ive wasted is because im capable and not very motivated to learn lua ;P |
| 07:31.59 | art3mis | err incapable |
| 07:32.10 | Thunder_Child | heh, you had it right the first time for me |
| 07:32.14 | art3mis | jelly on the other hand has made addons and stuff |
| 07:32.29 | art3mis | and since he wants it as well..... |
| 07:32.32 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:32.42 | Thunder_Child | besdies art3mis, the best way to go about it is to get people to do little bits |
| 07:33.03 | art3mis | yeah i suppose if i could actually focus on that for more than 15 mins i could prolly make it, but thats the extent of my focus these days |
| 07:33.05 | Thunder_Child | ank them for a small thing...then get many such small things |
| 07:33.10 | Thunder_Child | ask* |
| 07:33.16 | art3mis | yeah i thought about that the other day |
| 07:33.18 | Thunder_Child | then put said small things together |
| 07:33.36 | art3mis | to be totally honest |
| 07:33.49 | art3mis | i only need 1 addon profile swapper, even if its just eep2 |
| 07:33.57 | art3mis | from that example i can flesh out the rest |
| 07:34.12 | Thunder_Child | isnt there anything thats close? |
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| 07:34.24 | art3mis | its the save/load parts that i know i'd fuck up hard on |
| 07:34.34 | Thunder_Child | mmm..tables |
| 07:35.01 | art3mis | tc: not in the way i wanna do it... basically i need to make wrappers for each command in eep then have the ability to set those all at once |
| 07:35.13 | art3mis | that aprt makes sense |
| 07:35.23 | art3mis | the loading and saving/exporting doesnt |
| 07:35.30 | art3mis | profiles in ace2 are wierd |
| 07:35.49 | Thunder_Child | wait...so you want your addon to set all these variables at once? |
| 07:35.50 | art3mis | you cant do a layout and THEN make the profile, you have to do it before hand |
| 07:36.02 | art3mis | well mroe or less at once |
| 07:36.28 | Thunder_Child | i see.....you want your addon to tap into the other addons / commands to set stuff up each time |
| 07:37.00 | art3mis | here's what i see.. i create a layout and stuff like i normally would.. then i click "save" and gets all the info from the addon, stores it for me in my addon and atreributes a name to it |
| 07:37.13 | art3mis | then i move said settings to an import folder |
| 07:37.38 | art3mis | it reads from there and lists the name of each "theme" and by selecting it then grabs all the values and feeds them to the associated addons |
| 07:37.44 | art3mis | thus themeing it |
| 07:37.53 | art3mis | all at once is more a 1-click |
| 07:38.23 | art3mis | so each theme will have this big ol table of values.. that it grabs and sends to the real addons to do the work |
| 07:38.48 | Thunder_Child | and these will be preset themes? |
| 07:39.00 | art3mis | and then if you change a theme in my addon it would then load and pass all that info over and give it a whole new look |
| 07:39.06 | art3mis | preset and user created |
| 07:39.22 | art3mis | thast really the main idea behind it is that in my addon you can create themes for the base package |
| 07:39.26 | Thunder_Child | i dunno...you might have issues with resolutions |
| 07:39.33 | art3mis | export them.. and distro ONLY that |
| 07:39.38 | art3mis | not really |
| 07:39.50 | Thunder_Child | unless the addon can take into account percentages |
| 07:39.57 | art3mis | most of the stuff i use bt3/eep2/etc all scale right regardless of res |
| 07:40.04 | art3mis | HKUI is an example |
| 07:40.14 | art3mis | i did that on 1650x1080 |
| 07:40.17 | Thunder_Child | not if your giving it co'ords to find |
| 07:40.25 | art3mis | yet if you change the res before you start wow it's all where it should be |
| 07:40.44 | Thunder_Child | but thats wow changing it...not addons... |
| 07:41.05 | art3mis | and it scales properly if you dont set it ;P |
| 07:41.10 | Thunder_Child | though i have to admit it's really funny for us to be discusing this when nether of us code in lua |
| 07:41.19 | art3mis | you just have to remove the 1650x10180 setres line |
| 07:41.26 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 07:41.35 | art3mis | theorectically i know exactly how it should work |
| 07:41.42 | Thunder_Child | GO AND DO! |
| 07:42.13 | art3mis | i even have a base idea on the code... but i learn by example.. so i need someone to make at least the eep2 swapper with load and save |
| 07:42.54 | Thunder_Child | hmm..should i pvp with 1500ms latency? |
| 07:43.11 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 07:43.18 | art3mis | i ran a godwars mud from the crappy source i could fine that always crashed and had tons of bugs... never touched "c" before.. after 2 years of mucking with it searching throug other parts of the code to see how it should behave, my god had about 25 constant players and a 45 day uptime |
| 07:43.26 | art3mis | and they were TRYING to crash it |
| 07:43.47 | art3mis | crappiest source i could find |
| 07:46.01 | art3mis | http://www.dystopiamud.dk/ <-- this was made as a mimic and from me explaining certain things about my gw mud to the creater of dystopia ;P |
| 07:48.24 | Thunder_Child | huh...wga is on strike |
| 07:52.46 | art3mis | writers guild? |
| 07:52.54 | art3mis | yeah sicne the start of the week |
| 07:54.38 | Rayne | hmm |
| 07:54.44 | Thunder_Child | they have an office 5 blocks away or so |
| 07:54.58 | Thunder_Child | 5 blocks from a dga as well |
| 07:55.13 | Thunder_Child | nice placeses |
| 07:55.16 | Thunder_Child | places* |
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| 07:56.11 | batrick | >>>math.abs = nil |
| 07:56.11 | LuaBot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: cannot modify math table |
| 07:56.21 | batrick | >>>loadstring = nil |
| 07:56.21 | LuaBot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: cannot modify secure global variables |
| 07:56.29 | batrick | >>> hi = 5 |
| 07:56.29 | LuaBot | batrick: > ./luabot.lua:320: C stack overflow |
| 07:56.32 | batrick | LOL |
| 07:56.58 | Rayne | are all the UIs now becoming 'Lets see how small I can make everything' battles? |
| 07:57.23 | art3mis | the minimalist wars! |
| 07:57.52 | Thunder_Child | i h a t e minimalist UI's |
| 07:57.58 | Rayne | Seriously |
| 07:58.01 | Rayne | Saetos new one. |
| 07:58.05 | Kelfarr | haha yeah |
| 07:58.05 | Rayne | http://omgphatloots.org/UI/Deleuze1a.jpg |
| 07:58.06 | Kelfarr | i saw that |
| 07:58.08 | Rayne | wow |
| 07:58.09 | Kelfarr | nothing there |
| 07:58.23 | Rayne | insane |
| 07:58.31 | Thunder_Child | ya, called ctrl+z |
| 07:58.37 | art3mis | laugh |
| 07:58.38 | Thunder_Child | or alt z...w/e |
| 07:58.42 | art3mis | it was bound to happen though |
| 07:59.02 | art3mis | everyone is so hell bent on screen realestate not to mention that everyone is used to keyboarding |
| 07:59.35 | Rayne | im not bent too hard on it, im really happy with BBC as of now |
| 07:59.38 | art3mis | and then there's HKUI ;P |
| 07:59.43 | Rayne | im just fixing some layout Issues... |
| 08:00.34 | art3mis | im at a stand still until i get my themer |
| 08:00.39 | Rayne | I was PvPing and I took note that my swing timer is in the middle of my action bars |
| 08:01.04 | Rayne | And my Mirror Bars were in the middle of my health bars |
| 08:01.07 | art3mis | basically what i wanna do is relases a single package of addons.. and then provide "themes" for it so you can pick and choose what you want |
| 08:01.26 | art3mis | release |
| 08:01.34 | Rayne | but you want to use xperl |
| 08:01.35 | Rayne | so no |
| 08:01.37 | art3mis | since i use the same addons over and over |
| 08:01.41 | art3mis | nah |
| 08:01.45 | art3mis | im using dahud now |
| 08:01.55 | art3mis | it's mostly perfect for the type of style i want |
| 08:02.11 | art3mis | just gotta move em so they arent centered ;P |
| 08:02.48 | art3mis | as for making them pretty thats what eep2 is for ;) |
| 08:03.10 | art3mis | the only comp i have that actually uses xperl is hkui |
| 08:03.23 | art3mis | and hkui isnt changing cept for the xmas edition ;P |
| 08:09.50 | batrick | I can't find any mention of __metatable metamethod in the manual or in PiL |
| 08:09.58 | batrick | and I can't remember where I read about it |
| 08:11.02 | batrick | nvm i found it |
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| 08:16.50 | batrick | >>>math = nil |
| 08:16.51 | LuaBot | batrick: > [string "0"]:1: cannot modify secure global variables |
| 08:16.59 | batrick | >>>t = 4 |
| 08:17.04 | batrick | bueno |
| 08:42.43 | Rayne | I beat you Kel :P |
| 08:43.06 | Kelfarr | i know |
| 08:43.36 | Kelfarr | I had to wait for the post timer |
| 08:44.20 | Rayne | :( |
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| 08:47.42 | Rayne | brb |
| 08:51.41 | Rayne | back |
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| 09:07.17 | Thunder_Child | "I fought the law and, the law won" |
| 09:08.59 | MoonWolf | and what have we learned from this ? |
| 09:10.32 | Thunder_Child | be smarter |
| 09:11.03 | Thunder_Child | and/or bring overwelming force |
| 09:36.32 | Arcaia | anything in RFK? |
| 09:36.35 | Arcaia | mt |
| 09:38.45 | Kelfarr | i really need a new game to play wow is soo boring |
| 09:38.48 | Rayne | what programs other than Windowblinds skins Windows XP? |
| 09:38.55 | Kelfarr | stylexp |
| 09:38.58 | Kelfarr | is that i use |
| 09:39.15 | Kirkburn | Wow, slouken is up late/early |
| 09:39.20 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 09:39.29 | Kirkburn | ( http://www.wowblues.com/us/theres-no-point-getting-a-ui-now-with-23-2856139134.html for those confused) |
| 09:42.40 | bleeter | prolly a parting shot before going to bed ;) |
| 09:43.13 | Thunder_Child | Rayne, many |
| 09:44.23 | Rayne | wtf Stylexp doesnt have a trial? :/ |
| 09:44.34 | Thunder_Child | Rayne, skinner or replacement? |
| 09:44.37 | Kirkburn | Get Windowblinds :) |
| 09:44.48 | Rayne | Skinner, I want to make a custom skin... |
| 09:45.06 | Kirkburn | (I'm serious about Windowblinds btw) |
| 09:45.17 | Thunder_Child | windowblinds is the best... |
| 09:45.17 | Kelfarr | what are you talking about stylexp has a 60 day trial |
| 09:45.26 | Rayne | its not giving me that option |
| 09:45.40 | Kelfarr | i just got other means of getting it in full version |
| 09:47.30 | Kirkburn | Which reminded me, I hadn't yet got around to skinning my new PC :P |
| 09:48.05 | bleeter | Kirkburn: are you saying Wikia let you ditch that Linux box PoS? |
| 09:48.32 | Kirkburn | Someone is a bit behind the times ... I've not been over there since the end of August :/ |
| 09:48.56 | bleeter | oh, it was only while you were over there... I thought they were gunna let you take it out of the country |
| 09:49.17 | bleeter | thieving bastards... give with one hand, take with the other |
| 09:49.26 | bleeter | ;) |
| 09:49.49 | Kirkburn | Ooh, hey, new part of 2.3 downloading, hadn't even noticed |
| 09:50.25 | Kelfarr | i haven't even played wow in week |
| 09:50.34 | Kelfarr | my character has been logged out in shatt for weeks now |
| 09:51.08 | Thunder_Child | "Elemental shaman were told that while we'd be nerfing the damage coefficients for lightning bolt and chain lightning bolt in patch 2.3, overall they'd notice a damage increase. We know most of your tests reveal a damage decrease, however." |
| 09:51.16 | Thunder_Child | "We've been running extensive tests of our own and have identified that there is approximately a 6% nerf to elemental dps (depending on gear of course). As a result, we're going to increase lightning bolt and chain lightning bolt's coefficient so that elemental shaman gain approximately 5 to 6% of their damage back if you assume roughly 1200 spell damage." |
| 09:51.23 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 09:52.14 | Thunder_Child | "There is currently a bug causing leadership to be passed around for no discernible reason, it's being investigated and hopefully fixed in an upcoming patch." |
| 09:52.20 | Thunder_Child | had that one hit my pvp team |
| 09:53.06 | Kirkburn | ooh, sexy Diamond skin for Vista :) |
| 09:53.12 | Kelfarr | hmm i might start playing tabula rasa |
| 09:53.31 | Kirkburn | http://tabularasa.wikia.com ftw |
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| 09:58.14 | Rayne | Im so glad my mains a warlock and I dont have to worry about this coefficient shit so much |
| 09:58.22 | Rayne | though I do love raiding with my shammies |
| 09:58.55 | Rayne | And someone buy me a 360 so I can play Ace Combat 6 please. |
| 10:00.35 | Kelfarr | Your main is a warlock? How come you always post on your warriors |
| 10:00.38 | Kelfarr | warrior* |
| 10:01.33 | Thunder_Child | Rayne, emulate it on your comp |
| 10:02.43 | Thunder_Child | "somebody help, i've been kidnaped by a monster trying to relate to me" |
| 10:03.02 | Rayne | im getting back to the point to where my Ots are geared enough that I can be on my Warlock, Kel |
| 10:03.06 | Rayne | which makes me kinda happy |
| 10:03.46 | Kelfarr | well I am going to sleep now night |
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| 10:22.54 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine "There is currently a bug causing leadership to be passed around for no discernible reason, it's being investigated and hopefully fixed in an upcoming patch." |
| 10:23.00 | Thunder_Child | that would be why i was leader |
| 10:23.08 | Guillotine | ah, ok |
| 10:23.19 | Tierrie | TC: that reads like our national security policy |
| 10:23.38 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 10:23.50 | Thunder_Child | our government in 1 sentance |
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| 10:28.55 | zenzelezz | you know what the bad part about being Norwegian is? Trying to find DVDs... so many titles get translated beyond recognition |
| 10:30.09 | Tierrie | you know what the good part of being norwegian is? |
| 10:30.16 | Tierrie | battlefield earth may actually not suck |
| 10:30.36 | zenzelezz | I don't know about that |
| 10:30.51 | bleeter | lol |
| 10:31.06 | Tierrie | catwoman would also be ok without the dialogue |
| 10:31.11 | nevcairiel | just get english dvds, to solve your first problem |
| 10:31.24 | nevcairiel | original language > translations |
| 10:31.49 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I'm talking about the title of the film, not the language used in them. We never dub, only subtext, and you can easily disable the subtext |
| 10:31.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:32.23 | nevcairiel | so you dont recognize them |
| 10:32.24 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 10:32.25 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:34.03 | zenzelezz | for example... "I know what you did last summer" => "Frykterns sommer"... "I still know what you did last summer" => "Fryktens sommer 2"... "Live Free or Die Hard" => "Die Hard 4.0" |
| 10:34.25 | Tierrie | that's awesome |
| 10:34.37 | Tierrie | is Star Trek Generations => Star Trek 11.0? |
| 10:34.41 | nevcairiel | live free or die hard has been translated to Die Hard 4.0 in alot of places |
| 10:34.42 | Tierrie | or Star Trek ME |
| 10:34.43 | nevcairiel | here too. |
| 10:35.10 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: really? I was only aware of it here :-o |
| 10:35.28 | zenzelezz | hard to really give many examples unless you speak Norwegian :-) |
| 10:35.44 | bleeter | think it was Die Hard 4.0 in .au |
| 10:36.26 | bleeter | one of the problems with translating movies, tv, is that sometimes there's a pre-existing work in the 'new' language by that name |
| 10:36.47 | bleeter | and no matter how obscure, it's usually easier just to rename |
| 10:36.50 | zenzelezz | yeah, there are obstacles |
| 10:37.16 | zenzelezz | doesn't mean their chosen translations sound any better though ;) |
| 11:02.24 | Wobin | hm, what's agi to ap for rogues? |
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| 14:34.17 | Kaso | http://kalleboo.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/2e/2e3b3f4a3856b0557bfe71c208213062c9fe3097.jpg |
| 14:34.22 | Kaso | this is pure awesome |
| 14:36.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | how does that even work |
| 14:36.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | link to thread :O |
| 14:36.59 | krka | it looks weird until you notice that the shaft of the hammer connects with the ruler |
| 14:37.15 | zenzelezz | would guess the hammer keeps the ruler fairly rigid, and the weight of the hammer's head just balances the whole thing |
| 14:37.16 | Kaso | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2568490&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=24# |
| 14:37.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, but how is the hammer not just pulling the ruler down |
| 14:37.34 | krka | because the gravity center is to the left of the desk edge |
| 14:37.44 | krka | or something |
| 14:37.55 | Kaso | If you have a ruler and you try and balance it on one finger at the end, if would fall off right? Now if you use another finger, putting it anywhere past the middle of the rule, it's now resting on two fingers, and wouldn't fall off. The table acts as one finger would. The hammer acts as the second finger. Gravity pulls the heavier section (the head) down, and the lever effect caused by the string, forces the bottom of the hammer up. The bottom |
| 14:37.56 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.56 | Kaso | NB. The head must be past the point of contact between the ruler and the table. |
| 14:38.20 | Kaso | (quoted) |
| 14:39.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm done reading that thread, it hurts my brain |
| 14:40.10 | Kaso | its the same mechanism as those little ballancing figurines you get |
| 14:41.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mother |
| 14:41.32 | LuaBot | Mr_Rabies2, no ur mother! |
| 14:41.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:[ |
| 14:42.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | brb breaking my foot or possibly castrating myself with a hammer |
| 14:42.17 | Kaso | haha |
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| 15:13.57 | Wobin | basically the fulcrum point of the string and the weight of the handle pushing up on the ruler pushes the opposite end down onto the table |
| 15:14.18 | Wobin | and as long as the head of the hammer is past the edge of the table, it holds itself in place |
| 15:15.35 | Kaso | what i find odd is how hard it is for the (at least my) human mind to accept that working |
| 15:15.47 | Wobin | kinda like http://www.wineaccessory.com/Images/9255.jpg |
| 15:15.53 | Kaso | i know why it works, but it still feels wrong |
| 15:17.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it seems like the hammer would slip left and fall or all kinds of problems unless you spent like an hour setting it up via trial and error |
| 15:18.17 | Kaso | i imagen it did take a fair bit of fiddling |
| 15:18.23 | Wobin | nah not really |
| 15:18.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have to have a lot of faith in friction |
| 15:18.28 | Wobin | it's fairly self centreing |
| 15:18.35 | Wobin | as long as the ruler is wide enough |
| 15:18.54 | Wobin | The hammer will self adjust to a certain degree |
| 15:19.23 | Wobin | Friction is all that holds that whole idea together =P |
| 15:20.18 | Wobin | ~logs |
| 15:20.23 | purl | hmm... logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 15:24.36 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-SSu3tJ3ns this is awesome |
| 15:24.40 | Kaso | too |
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| 15:28.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | OH GEEZ |
| 15:28.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | FLAT BABY FACE |
| 15:28.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | AAAAAGH |
| 15:29.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh geez |
| 15:29.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that part where he erases people reminds me of those wwii photographs |
| 15:29.40 | Kaso | i dont know which you mean |
| 15:29.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | where they removed important political figures from the photos |
| 15:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see if i can find it |
| 15:30.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | stalin's crew did it a lot |
| 15:31.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | earlier than wwii, though, apparently |
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| 15:31.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union |
| 15:33.21 | Wobin | hehe that's very cool |
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| 15:33.28 | Kaso | ha wow |
| 15:33.48 | Wobin | I liked the last example |
| 15:38.23 | Wobin | http://gay.icynipple.net/Was%20Not%20Was%20-%20Walk%20the%20Dinosaur.mp3 |
| 15:38.46 | Wobin | boom boom akkalakka boom boom |
| 15:41.49 | Wobin | Man, if it fit |
| 15:42.06 | Wobin | I'd so have a guild named <boomboomackalackaboomboom> |
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| 16:20.19 | Wobin | ~addonkit |
| 16:20.19 | purl | Located at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 16:32.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | did they fix the \n thing |
| 16:32.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | in guild names? |
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| 16:42.04 | Lunessa | What \n thing in guild names? |
| 16:43.12 | Tuller | escape key for a newline |
| 16:44.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 16:44.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could make multiline guild names |
| 16:44.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | some guy had one that was 4 lines and was an ascii rabbit |
| 16:44.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it'd be like |
| 16:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | < Stuff |
| 16:44.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | more stuff |
| 16:44.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | more stuff |
| 16:44.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | Last Line > |
| 16:45.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | and he'd do that by doing "Stuff \n more stuff \n more stuff \n Last Line" in the name thing |
| 16:52.04 | _dreamss | lol |
| 16:52.05 | Wobin | that was fixed ages and ages and ages and ages ago |
| 16:52.08 | _dreamss | \n in guild names? |
| 16:52.22 | _dreamss | never seen \n being used in wow ever |
| 16:52.26 | Wobin | the ascii rabbit was the best guildname ever |
| 16:55.22 | wereHamster | _dreamss, I have, in SendChatMessage("\n") :P |
| 16:55.48 | _dreamss | hehe meant outside lua |
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| 17:06.15 | Lunessa | heh, that's because sending a \n will boot you. No more message spoofs. :P |
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| 17:08.46 | |Jelly| | Thank you, Lunessa. |
| 17:09.15 | Lunessa | Werd. |
| 17:09.36 | |Jelly| | Every response I came up with was "fuck off" to the moron that thinks it's an author issue. :\ |
| 17:10.01 | Lunessa | I'm having the shitty day. Please to be depositing monies with my wallet. Thank you for no making fun of my engrish. |
| 17:11.04 | Lunessa | Well it IS an author issue. But it's an author "oops" build problem. |
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| 17:11.24 | Lunessa | kind of like failing the "smoke test" for a new circut. |
| 17:12.28 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 17:14.04 | Lunessa | I loved working with crazy engineers designing new PCI cards. Those nut jobs would solder something together, then throw it into a machine to see if it "smoked or burned" before doing a detailed diagram for QA. |
| 17:14.31 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 17:15.54 | Wobin | http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b123/wobindwonderdog/guildiz7.jpg |
| 17:15.57 | Wobin | there we go |
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| 17:16.04 | Wobin | I deliberately saved that screenshot =P |
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| 17:52.29 | Industrial | lua> foo |
| 17:52.29 | cladbot | Industrial: nil |
| 17:53.00 | Industrial | lua> local a,b = function() end print(a==b) |
| 17:53.00 | cladbot | Industrial: false |
| 17:53.50 | Industrial | lua> local a,b = {}, function() end table.insert(a, b) print a[b] |
| 17:53.50 | cladbot | Industrial: sandbox.lua:284: Compilation failed: [string "local a,b = {}, function() end table.insert(a, b) print a[b]"]:1: '=' expected near 'a' |
| 17:54.20 | Industrial | lua> local a,b = {}, function() end table.insert(a, b) print(a[b]) |
| 17:54.20 | cladbot | Industrial: nil |
| 17:54.39 | Industrial | crap, I can't index by function? isnt it a value? |
| 17:54.49 | wereHamster | table.insert uses integer indices |
| 17:55.08 | Industrial | oh right hm. |
| 17:55.14 | wereHamster | lua> local a,b = {}, function() end a[b]="hello"; print(a[b]) |
| 17:55.14 | cladbot | wereHamster: hello |
| 17:55.52 | Industrial | yeh |
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| 18:25.00 | |Jelly| | ~hug Cairenn |
| 18:25.00 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
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| 18:30.10 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:33.37 | Thunder_Child | why is it always so dead on the weekends |
| 18:33.45 | Thunder_Child | it's like people have lives or something |
| 18:33.51 | Thunder_Child | but that cant be right |
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| 18:34.09 | foxlit | nowai |
| 18:34.59 | Thunder_Child | see....dead... |
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| 18:38.27 | Thunder_Child | ~crickets |
| 18:38.28 | purl | ACTION chirps uninterestedly |
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| 18:46.19 | Nechckn_AFK | Hi guys.. is anyone else experiencing connection issues? |
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| 18:49.40 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn, in irc? |
| 18:49.50 | Cairenn | not as bad as you seem to be experiencing |
| 18:53.07 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the event that is fired on every frame drawn? I'd look it up in the wiki, but this 80x25 text terminal somewhat limits my browsing abilities |
| 18:54.01 | zenzelezz | OnUpdate? |
| 18:54.04 | nevcairiel | OnLoad? |
| 18:54.07 | haste | there's no event, you have OnUpdate tho' |
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| 18:54.32 | ScytheBlade1 | OnUpdate! |
| 18:54.34 | nevcairiel | the OnLoad script is called when the frame is created, doesnt really mean "drawn" tho |
| 18:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I was looking for |
| 18:54.38 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 18:54.39 | nevcairiel | i misread |
| 18:54.41 | nevcairiel | my bad |
| 18:54.42 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:54.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, np |
| 18:54.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Looking back I was ambiguious anyways |
| 18:54.56 | nevcairiel | i thought "first time drawn" |
| 18:54.58 | zenzelezz | "frame" was ambiguous to some degree in the question ;) |
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| 19:12.31 | zenzelezz | so I give a quick look to MSN, to see who's online, and see a friend's status text... "Then Jesus said 'I can offer you eternal salvation.' And the disciples asked 'Can we get kings instead?'" |
| 19:12.56 | kaiden | lol |
| 19:13.28 | Industrial | Anyone have Joana's Guide in PDF? |
| 19:14.08 | Industrial | I have it in HTML, but I might want to print it. Getting sick of alt tabbing all the time. Dunno howmany pages it is (if its like 20 or 60..) |
| 19:14.32 | kaiden | convert it to pdf then |
| 19:14.52 | kaiden | http://html2pdf.seven49.net/ |
| 19:14.58 | zenzelezz | Googling "Joana's guide pdf" turned up a few results, not sure if they were exactly what you wanted... the first few were horde leveling guides |
| 19:15.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think joana's guide exists in pdf format |
| 19:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than converting it like that^ |
| 19:15.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the ones i've seen are html |
| 19:15.43 | kergoth | hmm, anyone know if the "hide duplicate items" .. "global" setting in baggins is all bags, or all -visible- bags? |
| 19:17.32 | Industrial | k |
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| 19:31.10 | bleeter | heh, some epic thread necromancy in general... the end of BC beta test event thread's been resurrected |
| 19:31.27 | Cairenn | awwwww! kitty! http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/10/vonat.id.cats.rescued.kbci?iref=videosearch |
| 19:31.52 | Shirik | can someone explain to me how kittens are "breaking news" ? |
| 19:31.59 | Shirik | I haven't loaded the page yet, but the title says "Video - Breaking News" |
| 19:32.23 | bleeter | Shirik: if you think pussy isn't important, I suggest you might wish to get a life |
| 19:32.34 | bleeter | :P |
| 19:33.53 | bleeter | awww, poor kitty |
| 19:34.01 | Shirik | yeah |
| 19:34.04 | Shirik | glad he's ok :) |
| 19:34.09 | Cairenn | firefighters have such huge hearts |
| 19:34.10 | Shirik | but I especially like the video that came after it |
| 19:34.58 | Shirik | "While running for presidency, Bush attacked the Clinton administration stating 'At our current rates, that number could reach 2/3 in 20 years', but guess what? Under his presidency, it's that high now!" |
| 19:35.18 | Shirik | (That number being the percentage of imported oil) |
| 19:37.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 19:37.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | freezepop is musical crack |
| 19:37.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't stop listening to it |
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| 19:38.18 | Cairenn | Kirkburn, mikma: http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/10/vonat.id.cats.rescued.kbci?iref=videosearch |
| 19:38.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's breaking news because news = entertainment now, shirik |
| 19:38.47 | foxlit | But it's the kittens! |
| 19:38.59 | foxlit | Won't someone please think of the kittens? |
| 19:39.03 | Shirik | dogs > cats |
| 19:39.04 | Shirik | sorry |
| 19:39.04 | Cairenn | <3 firefighters |
| 19:39.21 | Thunder_Child | "(11:39:23) (Mr_Rabies2) it's breaking news because news = entertainment now, shirik" <-- and most news is bad nowadays...so whats that say about us |
| 19:39.21 | foxlit | Shirik clearly can't be trusted with the future of our nation's cats! |
| 19:39.33 | Shirik | no kidding |
| 19:39.36 | Shirik | I would eat them |
| 19:39.43 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: which is why I like to find the good stories some times |
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| 19:40.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | T_C, that's why they have those stories now |
| 19:40.10 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, the fact that you have to hunt for them is sadening |
| 19:40.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | because all the bad, real news is depressing |
| 19:40.23 | Shirik | I like to hunt cats |
| 19:40.37 | Shirik | just kidding I actually like cats |
| 19:40.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | so they fill it with fluff for feelgood stuff |
| 19:40.39 | bleeter | there's a song 'bout that |
| 19:40.40 | Shirik | they're just too boring |
| 19:40.46 | Shirik | all they do is sit around all day |
| 19:40.53 | Shirik | and then when you try to go to sleep they bite your feet |
| 19:40.56 | Thunder_Child | so do we all |
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| 19:41.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just don't read the news and go about my day avoiding all the sensationalism |
| 19:41.16 | Shirik | who's a bonzo? |
| 19:41.20 | Thunder_Child | i know the bozos |
| 19:41.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | sounds aussie |
| 19:41.31 | bleeter | pommie |
| 19:42.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | WHOADANG |
| 19:42.51 | Cairenn | wheee, net split |
| 19:42.58 | bleeter | meh |
| 19:42.58 | bleeter | they all suck anyway |
| 19:42.58 | foxlit | niven? |
| 19:42.58 | bleeter | we r teh kool kidz |
| 19:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 19:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, not good |
| 19:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | not good at all |
| 19:42.58 | Shirik | yes! |
| 19:42.58 | Shirik | I shall now make my move to take over the channel |
| 19:42.58 | foxlit | ~wikipedia Larry Niven |
| 19:43.20 | foxlit | Yeah, purl, that's useful |
| 19:43.20 | Shirik | lol |
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| 19:43.43 | Chinsarv | <_< |
| 19:43.43 | Chinsarv | >_> |
| 19:43.43 | foxlit | "Laurence van Cott Niven (born April 30, 1938 Los Angeles, California) is a US science fiction author. Perhaps his best-known work is Ringworld (1970), which received Hugo, Locus, Ditmar, and Nebula awards. His work is primarily hard science fiction, using big science concepts and theoretical physics." |
| 19:43.57 | Thunder_Child | chinsarv? |
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| 19:44.55 | Shirik | damn it Mr_Rabies, you weren't fast enough |
| 19:44.59 | Cairenn | Shirik: you want the headaches? go for it! all yours! |
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| 19:45.00 | _dreamss | use Chainserv |
| 19:45.01 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:45.01 | Shirik | chinsarv |
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| 19:45.01 | Thunder_Child | bah, ringworld was a hard read |
| 19:45.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit, freezepop |
| 19:45.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | why must you be so addictive |
| 19:45.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | Now Playing: Freezepop - Ninja of Love [03:13m/320Kbps/44KHz] |
| 19:45.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | ^brain melting |
| 19:45.19 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Shirik] by Cairenn |
| 19:45.19 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Mr_Rabies2] by Cairenn |
| 19:45.28 | Thunder_Child | "simple minds get fixated on simple things" |
| 19:45.28 | _dreamss | subliminal messages |
| 19:45.28 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-o Cairenn] by Cairenn |
| 19:45.33 | _dreamss | Smoke |
| 19:45.45 | Thunder_Child | kick Cairenn! |
| 19:45.45 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Mr_Rabies2 -> RARRR COUP TIME |
| 19:45.45 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by ChanServ -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.2.x ToC: 20200 | RTFPN please | WoWI Mod Uploader! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12821| "Laugh at me now, go ahead, say I'm crazy." - Cidan |
| 19:45.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:46.04 | foxlit | It's not a coup if Cairenn resigns! |
| 19:46.11 | _dreamss | coup failed |
| 19:46.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just a bloodless coup |
| 19:46.22 | Thunder_Child | warriros need solo buffing |
| 19:46.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | OR IS IT?! |
| 19:46.32 | foxlit | demote self vs others demote you :) |
| 19:46.32 | _dreamss | yes.. they do |
| 19:46.36 | Shirik | lol Cairenn |
| 19:46.37 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-o Shirik] by Mr_Rabies2 |
| 19:46.42 | Shirik | hey! |
| 19:46.43 | Shirik | no fair |
| 19:46.50 | bleeter | rofl |
| 19:46.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | BACKSTABBED! |
| 19:46.52 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by Mr_Rabies2 |
| 19:46.57 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [-o Mr_Rabies2] by Mr_Rabies2 |
| 19:47.17 | bleeter | i lub u gyz u r crayzeee |
| 19:47.18 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 19:47.56 | Kaso | is youtube broken for anyone else? |
| 19:48.05 | Thunder_Child | dru/paly/sham/priest can heal, lock can life leach, hunter can heal the pet (which is prolly tanking), mage/rogue dont get hit....war's get crap |
| 19:48.14 | Lunessa | I r not crazee, i r smurt |
| 19:48.30 | Lunessa | i kin spelz gud too |
| 19:48.51 | bleeter | *tow |
| 19:49.14 | Lunessa | Nah, got to have one correctly spelled word for humor. |
| 19:49.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha, oh japan |
| 19:49.19 | foxlit | wars get crazy mitigation :) |
| 19:49.32 | Thunder_Child | but from spells |
| 19:49.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.jlist.com/product/CPND001 [probably nsfw, but maybe not] |
| 19:49.35 | Thunder_Child | not* |
| 19:49.37 | Shirik | freenode's being attacked again..... |
| 19:49.39 | Shirik | why....... |
| 19:49.47 | Shirik | what is wrong with people |
| 19:52.55 | foxlit | And no, that's not an answer to the previous question. |
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| 19:53.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure someone's bored |
| 19:53.55 | Shirik | I bet it's Cairenn |
| 19:55.33 | foxlit | Gah, coding this properly is painful! |
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| 20:07.54 | Thunder_Child | you know...if my computer is going to randomly restart....i damn sure want to be the cause of it |
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| 20:11.55 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.47 | zenzelezz | cool =) |
| 20:13.04 | AnduinLothar | bear riders* |
| 20:13.11 | AnduinLothar | they dismount and hit liek trucks |
| 20:14.43 | Cairenn | wooooohooooo! just booked my tickets to NYC |
| 20:14.58 | zenzelezz | neat; when/why are you going? |
| 20:15.00 | Tierrie_ | whats in NYC |
| 20:15.14 | Cairenn | Dec 4 - 6, hubby, 15th Anniversary |
| 20:16.00 | Lunessa | 15 years.... marital bliss... impressive considering most people can't even commit to a style of glasses for 5 years. |
| 20:16.10 | Duman | hah |
| 20:16.16 | Cairenn | actually been together 21 yrs |
| 20:16.22 | Lunessa | Stop. |
| 20:16.28 | Cairenn | ? |
| 20:16.37 | Lunessa | You're ruining my fantasy of you bing a 21 year old hottie. |
| 20:16.43 | Duman | LOL |
| 20:16.51 | Cairenn | heh, sorry, that fantasy was ruined ages ago, remember? |
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| 20:17.02 | Lunessa | :P I perv can dream, right? |
| 20:17.10 | Lunessa | 1i/A |
| 20:17.24 | Lunessa | Hell, I'm giving up my keyboard for Lent. |
| 20:17.28 | Cairenn | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tierrie/1024486162/in/set-72157601245280162/ |
| 20:17.58 | Lunessa | I know. I've seen the pictures. :P I'm just trying to be funny. |
| 20:18.03 | Duman | haha |
| 20:18.07 | Duman | mmm, sugar and crack |
| 20:18.26 | Shirik | world server is down |
| 20:18.28 | Shirik | qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq |
| 20:19.13 | Cairenn | the 20 year old hottie in the family is my daughter |
| 20:19.22 | Shirik | she single? |
| 20:19.23 | kd3 | oh noes |
| 20:19.25 | Shirik | jkjk |
| 20:19.38 | Shirik | Cairenn's going to kill me |
| 20:19.40 | Cairenn | yes |
| 20:19.42 | Duman | bwahah |
| 20:19.46 | Cide | she's single?! |
| 20:19.49 | |Jelly| | [14:19]<Shirik>she single? <-- no really... |
| 20:19.51 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 20:20.07 | Kaso | ham that description on the flickr is great |
| 20:20.16 | kd3 | I know this is going to be horribly late, but I still have to respond |
| 20:20.16 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 20:20.32 | AnduinLothar | wow 18k raid buffed |
| 20:20.34 | Cairenn | |Jelly|: I already answered that - yes |
| 20:20.51 | |Jelly| | Cairenn: I was kidding anyway but THANKS FOR NOT GETTING ALL LOLMAD! :P |
| 20:21.28 | Cairenn | bah, this is me guys, why would I get mad? now, if you start trying to stalk her or something, that's a different matter |
| 20:21.41 | |Jelly| | ~seen Cairenn'sDaughter |
| 20:21.42 | purl | |Jelly|: i haven't seen 'cairenn'sdaughter' |
| 20:21.45 | |Jelly| | ...damn |
| 20:22.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just tried to make an analogy to bears and gave up quickly |
| 20:22.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna just listen to my freezepop and space out |
| 20:22.49 | Lunessa | I'm stalking myself on MySpace. |
| 20:22.56 | Duman | o.O |
| 20:22.59 | |Jelly| | I stalk myself on MySpace too! |
| 20:23.05 | Duman | sounds kinky |
| 20:23.09 | Fisker- | I stalk everyone |
| 20:23.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i made my myspace as annoying as possible to keep away people i don't like |
| 20:23.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | yet it's less annoying than most myspaces out there :( |
| 20:23.41 | Fisker- | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1075/ |
| 20:23.47 | |Jelly| | My MySpace is sooo emo! SOOO!! OMG! /cuts |
| 20:24.22 | Duman | my myspace has tumbleweeds and cobwebs, since I never update it :P |
| 20:24.44 | bleeter | I think it's funny folks bagging out myspace and saying how cool facebook is |
| 20:24.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i never update mine |
| 20:24.49 | Duman | well, that's likely because I technically work for the "competition" |
| 20:24.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just made it to keep people from pestering me |
| 20:25.07 | Fisker- | none of all that web 2.0 social networking bullshit is cool |
| 20:25.19 | bleeter | me and a pidgin dev created myspace accounts to test the myspace im protocol thing for pidgin |
| 20:25.27 | Duman | hey, if it makes me money, fine by me ;) |
| 20:25.35 | bleeter | mine's crazy as, so is his... we keep getting random friend requests from whackos |
| 20:25.58 | bleeter | Fisker-: untrue, last.fm is cool :P |
| 20:26.04 | Lunessa | Mine is pretty dull. I made it because it was the only way I could keep track of certain folks. They wouldn't use e-mail, IM or even a phone, so I got a stupid MySpace account. |
| 20:28.43 | Fisker- | no bleeter :( |
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| 20:29.04 | Fisker- | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1075/ <-i'm the guy in the red suit, Mr_Rabies is the guy in the yellow suit btw :( |
| 20:29.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like to hug midgets, what's wrong with that |
| 20:29.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | midgets is people too, guys |
| 20:29.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | or make out with them or whatever's going on there |
| 20:29.58 | Fisker- | you're also kissing him |
| 20:29.59 | Fisker- | :O |
| 20:30.06 | Thunder_Child | could be a her |
| 20:30.08 | bleeter | Fisker-: true, I don't use the social side of it, only the similar artists thingie to find new music |
| 20:30.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use pandora for that |
| 20:30.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 20:31.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | (or guitar hero/rock band, hehehe) |
| 20:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | lots of awesome indy bands in Guitar Hero 2 |
| 20:31.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | or just ones i've never heard of |
| 20:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | like bang camaro |
| 20:31.47 | Fisker- | you should play more heroin hero |
| 20:32.23 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: pandora's only US, other limitations etc. |
| 20:32.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 20:32.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | Fisker, i tried but that damn dragon |
| 20:32.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 20:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | chased the damn thing for four hours and managed to break away when power went out |
| 20:34.54 | Fisker- | :o |
| 20:35.16 | Fisker- | that was probably the favorite moment in south park though |
| 20:35.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | but seriously |
| 20:35.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | all of you must listen to bang camaro |
| 20:35.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=yHyg-pead3w |
| 20:35.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's made of guitar solos and win |
| 20:36.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have like, 15 singers or something |
| 20:36.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty awesome |
| 20:37.06 | Fisker- | <Agent Smith>FIND THEM AND DESTROY THEM</Agent Smith> |
| 20:38.19 | Lunessa | ... There are days when I wish I cold just throw a thermite-decive into my guild roster and achieve some peace. |
| 20:38.29 | bleeter | heh |
| 20:38.34 | Thunder_Child | you can, it's called /logout |
| 20:38.43 | bleeter | i thought it was /gquit |
| 20:39.01 | Thunder_Child | na, go to a char with no guild |
| 20:39.02 | bleeter | or in extereme circumstances, fdisk.exe /mbr |
| 20:39.02 | Lunessa | <-- Guild Leader, Site Admin, TS Admin, Chief Cook and Bottle Washer |
| 20:39.08 | bleeter | tho I don't think that works past W2K |
| 20:39.27 | Thunder_Child | then your oprtions are /gkick or /gquit |
| 20:39.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | thermite's probably not a great idea unless they're concentrated over a small area |
| 20:39.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | or you use a lot of it |
| 20:40.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | c4's probably a better option for a decent aoe |
| 20:40.02 | Lunessa | Maybe I'll just use good ol' wiley pete |
| 20:40.23 | art3mis | Mr_Rabies2: but how much is a lot? |
| 20:40.34 | Thunder_Child | mmmm....WP |
| 20:40.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | for thermite to cover a decent area, a decent amount, art3mis |
| 20:40.43 | Lunessa | A metric ton ought to be sufficient for my needs. |
| 20:40.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it tends to burn straight through and down whatever it hits |
| 20:40.56 | art3mis | im of the opinion that no explosion is too big :P |
| 20:40.59 | Cairenn | tonne |
| 20:41.03 | art3mis | yay fire! |
| 20:41.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you use it as a secondary explosive |
| 20:41.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | which it may work well for |
| 20:41.27 | art3mis | you could just use it in kara |
| 20:41.37 | art3mis | on whats his name when everyone is within melle |
| 20:41.40 | art3mis | melee |
| 20:41.46 | art3mis | just make a fwe runs ;) |
| 20:42.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | since it burns at about 2500C or so |
| 20:42.42 | Lunessa | Let me ask you - do you believe that 8K health is too difficult for mages, warlocks, priests, and druids to reach ? Especially when they are regularly raiding Karazhan and Heroics? |
| 20:42.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | not at all |
| 20:42.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially not locks |
| 20:43.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | my druid has 7700 in dps gear and i have almost no +stam on it |
| 20:43.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | priests too should be easy |
| 20:43.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | due to having fort |
| 20:44.17 | Lunessa | See, that's what I thought too - my mage, the WORST geared in the guild, has +600 spell damage, and over 8K health - but my guildees are qq-ing about our 'raider' rank requiring DPS/Healers to have 8K health. |
| 20:44.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | art3mis: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WrCWLpRc1yM |
| 20:44.24 | bleeter | Lunessa: my mage has ~7.5k health without going near mara.. so.. no |
| 20:44.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thermite's awesome. |
| 20:45.00 | bleeter | *kara... and no heroics |
| 20:45.25 | Lunessa | My mage is wearing crappy crafted gear and hasn't even finished nagrand quests yet. |
| 20:45.39 | zenzelezz | <Cairenn> bah, this is me guys, why would I get mad? now, if you start trying to stalk her or something, that's a different matter <--- what do you mean "start"? |
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| 20:45.50 | bleeter | yeah, my mage is wearing imbued netherweave set =)) |
| 20:45.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:46.03 | Lunessa | Same here bleeter. |
| 20:46.13 | Kelfarr | lol |
| 20:46.16 | Kelfarr | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/LansX/WoWScrnShot_110807_171059.jpg |
| 20:46.44 | foxlit | I never get people who play DPS classes and have visible raid frames |
| 20:47.02 | foxlit | And that's a priest! |
| 20:47.05 | foxlit | Evil|! |
| 20:47.07 | Lunessa | I hate to say it, but maybe I just need to tell them to "sack up" and "step up their play" |
| 20:47.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, thermite, how i love you |
| 20:48.28 | Lunessa | Thermite, a young pyromaniac's truest love. |
| 20:48.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bring up the priest frame usually foxlit |
| 20:48.39 | Lunessa | And easy to make too! |
| 20:48.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | on my feral drood |
| 20:48.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can shift out and innervate or BR |
| 20:48.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | easily |
| 20:49.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i've gotten a couple BRs and a ton of innervates while tanking bosses |
| 20:49.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 20:49.46 | foxlit | Don't really need raid frames for that :) |
| 20:50.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | what would i use otherwise? |
| 20:50.34 | foxlit | /target |
| 20:50.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not easy to do in the heat of battle D: |
| 20:50.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's not always the same target |
| 20:51.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just bring up the class frames i need |
| 20:51.10 | foxlit | "heat of battle" is a very relative term when you're doing DPS |
| 20:51.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's much easier just to bring up a target frame |
| 20:51.38 | foxlit | Waste of real estate most of the time :) |
| 20:51.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | /target is much too much work and a good way to get people killed |
| 20:52.11 | Duman | I keep my raid frames up all the time, but that's just because I like to know what's going on w/ everyone at any given time |
| 20:52.21 | foxlit | Raidstatus addons for that, tbh! |
| 20:52.28 | Duman | but I have screen real-estate to spare |
| 20:52.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually when i do these things it's very time sensitive since i have to shift out, cast a spell, and shift back in |
| 20:52.46 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies2: if you're tanking, you just can't do it. |
| 20:52.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do all the time |
| 20:52.52 | foxlit | If you're doing DPS, nobody cares. |
| 20:53.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've done hundreds of innervates while tanking |
| 20:53.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | and probably tens of battle res's |
| 20:53.24 | foxlit | tanking what? |
| 20:53.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing in 25 mans, probably |
| 20:53.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, other than trash |
| 20:54.00 | foxlit | Basically, if you get hit in caster form, you're dead. |
| 20:54.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 20:54.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can take about two hits usually |
| 20:54.26 | Duman | just save barkskin for when you have to shift |
| 20:54.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i barkskin if i gotta battleres |
| 20:54.39 | Duman | (not that it's THAT much reduction, but 20% is 20%) |
| 20:54.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that gives me 20% less damage and no pushback |
| 20:55.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all about properly timing things and hoping luck will work out |
| 20:55.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | because oftentimes you have to make a judgement call of whether you'd like to possibly die instantly or definitely die 2 minutes down the road when the remaining healers can't keep you alive |
| 20:56.09 | foxlit | Hey |
| 20:56.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually take the chance when i think i can make it |
| 20:56.22 | foxlit | "definitely die instantly or possibly die 2 minutes down the road" |
| 20:56.30 | foxlit | Or you aren't tanking anything interested. |
| 20:56.33 | foxlit | *interesting |
| 20:56.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure i've caused a wipe or two doing it but i've prevented more than i've caused |
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| 20:57.29 | nevcairiel | i would never ever ask one of our ferals if they tank to brez |
| 20:57.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | they don't ask me to, i just do it :P |
| 20:57.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually i pick opportune times |
| 20:57.48 | nevcairiel | if we wipe because of that, iw ould replace them |
| 20:58.22 | nevcairiel | i dont know where you are raiding, but in hyjal or bt, that will never work |
| 20:58.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i.e. moroes vanishes, i'll do it, or i'll back off on threat enough to let the offtank get it and shift out and do it |
| 20:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> nothing in 25 mans, probably |
| 20:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> well, other than trash |
| 20:58.50 | nevcairiel | ferals can tank fine in 25mans |
| 20:58.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | not in caster form |
| 20:59.22 | nevcairiel | vanish on moroes is fine, mob is not there |
| 20:59.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | right |
| 20:59.32 | Duman | yeah that's a good one |
| 20:59.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying i usually do it at opportune times like that |
| 20:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | but sometimes it's going to be a wipe if i don't do it and may be one if i do |
| 21:00.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i take the chance and just hope for it |
| 21:00.02 | foxlit | That generally stops working in 25 mins |
| 21:00.02 | nevcairiel | like illidari council has one rogue mob too, we usually let a feral take that |
| 21:00.03 | foxlit | *mans |
| 21:00.08 | nevcairiel | so when he vanishes, he can innervate or rez |
| 21:00.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what i said, foxlit |
| 21:00.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> nothing in 25 mans, probably |
| 21:00.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> well, other than trash |
| 21:00.24 | Duman | I didn't get a chance to hop into Kara on the PTR... did Moroes' blind get changed to a physical attack as well, or did it remain a poison? |
| 21:00.48 | nevcairiel | is rogue blind no poison anymore? |
| 21:00.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope, it's ont |
| 21:00.53 | Duman | correct |
| 21:00.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | not* |
| 21:00.58 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 21:00.59 | Kelfarr | its physical |
| 21:01.00 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 21:01.01 | Duman | I just dunno if they changed all the NPC ones |
| 21:01.03 | foxlit | implied assertion: "10 man raiding is a joke currently, come back with real content" |
| 21:01.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | uncleansable |
| 21:01.09 | foxlit | Nev: and it shares DR with cyclone |
| 21:01.32 | foxlit | As to why, who knows. Maybe they thought rogues needed a slight buff |
| 21:01.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | also no reagent and lasts slower? |
| 21:01.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 21:01.39 | nevcairiel | overpower rogues more already |
| 21:01.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | shorter? |
| 21:01.48 | Duman | no reagent, yeah |
| 21:01.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forget how they changed it entirely |
| 21:02.02 | Duman | well, one of the main times I used Blind in PvP was against paladins that bubbled :P |
| 21:02.04 | Duman | err |
| 21:02.05 | Duman | BoP'd |
| 21:02.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i think they either increased the cooldown or decreased the duration |
| 21:02.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and made it uncleansable and no reagent |
| 21:02.22 | Duman | they'd BoP and then try healing, and I'd just blind them |
| 21:02.25 | Duman | can't do that come 2.3 |
| 21:02.35 | Duman | since BoP now is the only way to REMOVE blind |
| 21:02.41 | Duman | (physical debuff) |
| 21:02.53 | nevcairiel | why do they bop and not bubble? |
| 21:02.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | blood rage ahead of time |
| 21:03.00 | Duman | if bubble is on CD |
| 21:03.07 | Duman | or if they BoP another healer |
| 21:03.07 | Duman | etc |
| 21:03.25 | nevcairiel | 2v2 pvp will get more unbalanced as it is |
| 21:03.27 | nevcairiel | if you ask me |
| 21:03.37 | Duman | dude, don't get me started on arenas |
| 21:04.02 | nevcairiel | there are alot of warrior/resto shaman teams in our pool |
| 21:04.03 | Duman | they've just caused more QQ about imbalance - and thus all sorts of class changes - than anything else |
| 21:04.10 | Kelfarr | god this guy is stupid, thats one reason I don't want to release my UI http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856219694&postId=28557141436&sid=1#1 |
| 21:04.10 | nevcairiel | i mean, while its cool that i can perfectly control the warrior |
| 21:04.17 | nevcairiel | even i think i am OP in that situatuion :P |
| 21:04.19 | AnduinLothar | Conjured Manna Biscuits are hax |
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| 21:04.36 | Duman | Kelfarr: bahaha |
| 21:04.53 | foxlit | "God some people are stupid" is self-deprecating? |
| 21:04.56 | Kelfarr | Someone has a downloaded UI but doesn't even know what nameplates are |
| 21:04.58 | mikma | rofl |
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| 21:06.22 | Thunder_Child | Natalie Wood - "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." |
| 21:06.26 | Kaso | well nameplates is a slightly abiguous term in the field of WoW UIs |
| 21:07.02 | Duman | well, to be honest, the first time I hit 'v' by accident I was like "WTF IS THIS" |
| 21:07.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah but that happened to most of us at like level 20 |
| 21:07.20 | Kelfarr | yeah but look at this pvp rank |
| 21:07.21 | Duman | granted that was like 2.5 years ago |
| 21:07.22 | Duman | yeah |
| 21:07.27 | nevcairiel | well i guess we all had that moment, BUT, we had we had it ages ago |
| 21:07.27 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:07.32 | Duman | yes yes, ebay70 probably |
| 21:07.32 | nevcairiel | -we had |
| 21:07.34 | Duman | ;-) |
| 21:07.35 | Kelfarr | he is a knight lieutenant |
| 21:07.39 | Thunder_Child | everyone was a nub once |
| 21:07.43 | Kelfarr | so he has been around for atleast a year |
| 21:07.56 | Duman | well, his character has been ;) |
| 21:08.01 | foxlit | Maybe he's better at hitting the keys he intends to hit than some people? |
| 21:08.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but he's a HUNTER |
| 21:08.04 | Kelfarr | haha yeah I guess |
| 21:08.04 | nevcairiel | they should've nuked pvp ranks now that you cannot even earn them anymore |
| 21:08.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | a NIGHT ELF hunter at that |
| 21:08.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | even i make fun of night elves |
| 21:08.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i play one and have about 200 days played on one |
| 21:08.50 | Lej | what's the limit on how often you can use SendWho()? |
| 21:08.54 | Kelfarr | my first main was a NE hunter, granted he only got to level 35 |
| 21:09.35 | Duman | Lej: I'm pretty sure, yes. |
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| 21:09.50 | Lej | eh? |
| 21:09.59 | Duman | oh |
| 21:10.02 | Lej | It was a question asking for the specific time :P |
| 21:10.08 | Duman | I thoguth you asked if ther ewas |
| 21:11.01 | Kaso | Anyone else having problems with youtube? |
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| 21:11.11 | Kelfarr | my weiner dog is fat |
| 21:12.05 | Lej | I wish sender level was an arg of CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL and similar events :( |
| 21:12.46 | Duman | yeah |
| 21:12.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only night elves that arent' morons are typically druids and priests, and even then, anyone who rolled for pre 2.2 starshards can't be too smart :O |
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| 21:13.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again i have a human priest |
| 21:13.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | yayyyy feedbaaack |
| 21:13.21 | Thunder_Child | Kelfarr, was that euphimism? |
| 21:13.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | like a tuna can |
| 21:14.05 | Lej | <- BE Priest, consume magic yay |
| 21:14.12 | Lej | ... |
| 21:14.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it has its uses |
| 21:14.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | not very many |
| 21:14.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it has mroe than feedback |
| 21:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 21:14.48 | Lej | ok, so it's saved me sometime when i was oom and the other guy was almost dead :} |
| 21:14.49 | Kelfarr | no, i actually have a weiner dog |
| 21:14.57 | Kelfarr | and he eats alot and he is really fat |
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| 21:15.03 | Kelfarr | ever since I got him neutered |
| 21:15.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's depressed |
| 21:15.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't blame him |
| 21:15.19 | zenzelezz | Perception is good for about one thing in PvE... giving the AI one more ability to choose from |
| 21:15.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's a weiner dog, his feet are like 3 inches tall |
| 21:15.26 | zenzelezz | (when MCing you) |
| 21:15.42 | Kelfarr | yes he probably hates his life |
| 21:15.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | you removed his mandoghood |
| 21:15.49 | Kelfarr | yeah |
| 21:15.51 | Lej | I use perception a lot with my human warrior in 29 bg |
| 21:16.01 | Lej | so many twink rogues |
| 21:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now he's going into a downward spiral of depression |
| 21:16.25 | zenzelezz | Lej: if you were commenting on my statement, PvP isn't PvE ;) |
| 21:16.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | perception's pretty useful, honestly |
| 21:16.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've used it to pick out the stealthed patrolling mobs in instances a lot :O |
| 21:17.06 | Lej | ok, so it's has a bit limited use in PvE :P |
| 21:17.10 | Duman | shattered halls |
| 21:17.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just see me cast SW:P and all of a sudden this rogue shows up punching me |
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| 21:17.50 | zenzelezz | it's not entirely useless, but most of the time I find no great use for it, or the cooldown is too long |
| 21:18.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | shadowmeld lets me drink when my party is full of morons |
| 21:18.28 | Lej | anyway to get a random player's level without using SendWho? |
| 21:20.15 | Kaso | Lej, add them to friends, use friends api to check level, remove from friends |
| 21:20.53 | Lej | smart, that's how the block spam addons do it? |
| 21:22.08 | Kaso | Im not sure, the one i wrote for myself justused sendwho, its not thta bad latency unless you get lots of unknown people whispering you within 6 sec of each other |
| 21:23.42 | Lej | I wanted to try an write a small goldspam blocker but I thought the "cooldown" on sendwho would be to limiting |
| 21:23.46 | Kaso | im not sure the friends method is entirely "relyable", whereas the sendwho should aways work if you'[re willing to wait for it |
| 21:25.13 | Kaso | the cooldown is 6 seconds, but as long as you cache previous requests for a fair time, and you capture all your friends / guild onload, it really shouldnt happen much at all where you gotta wait the cooldown |
| 21:28.46 | Lej | much of the spam is in say/emote form which means they need to be close so maybe there's some unit/targetting function that could fix those |
| 21:29.29 | Kaso | cant programmatically target anymore :< before "the great lockdown" that woudlve been aperfectly viaable solution |
| 21:29.31 | Kelfarr | someone just made a topic in the UI forums saying "My computer won't open .rar files how do I open these?" |
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| 21:29.52 | Kaso | i didnt realise you were thinking normal channel messages too, not just whispers |
| 21:30.00 | Kaso | that complicates things some more |
| 21:30.05 | Lej | 6 seconds can be a lot for normal chat |
| 21:30.11 | Kaso | yah it can |
| 21:30.14 | Lej | and a lot more to process |
| 21:30.35 | Kaso | give the friends method a try, i havent looked at it for ages, may not still work |
| 21:30.43 | Kaso | otherwise you might want |
| 21:30.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 21:30.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i was decent at lua, i'd mess with so many people |
| 21:31.36 | Kaso | to think about other ways of spotting spam, multiple copies of the same msg, gibberishness of names, key words in the string (www, $, etc) |
| 21:31.49 | Kaso | what'd you mean Mr_Rabies |
| 21:31.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd have scripts that had scripts piggybacking on them that talked to each other in partychat |
| 21:32.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | in complete nonsense |
| 21:32.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | or does using real chat channels require a hardware event |
| 21:32.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | now? :O |
| 21:33.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It does not |
| 21:33.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it would be pretty hilarious to make one that talked to itself and spouted lines from movies and plays and stuff |
| 21:33.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | among two different people with it, and piggyback it on like a unitframe addon or something |
| 21:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:35.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, the addon encounters someone else with, say, agUF |
| 21:36.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the two of them start spouting lines from shakespeare and responses to them occasionally in chat |
| 21:36.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Name it AddonKarma |
| 21:36.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a theoretical luaterrorist |
| 21:36.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And have it critque their choice of addons |
| 21:36.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahahaha |
| 21:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 21:36.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | call it Psychomantis |
| 21:37.17 | Kaso | ChanServ is so off-and-on tonight |
| 21:37.17 | Kaso | well simmons is apparently |
| 21:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | I see you have CTRA Installed! |
| 21:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | not anymore! |
| 21:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:37.35 | zenzelezz | "[Skeuyjhudxej] whispers: a buddy show me www.somespammersite.com.its cool!" [Skeuyjhudxej]: Level 1 Human Paladin - Elwynn Forest |
| 21:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | that'd be awesome |
| 21:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I have an unreleased addon - FakeRaidAddons |
| 21:37.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing quite like responding to version checks for any number of raid related addons |
| 21:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Even if you don't have them enabled/installed |
| 21:37.50 | Cide | I don't see the point |
| 21:38.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd also try to fudge with ktm meters and damage meters and stuff |
| 21:38.19 | Kaso | zenzelezz, what cha meaning by that ? |
| 21:38.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cide, the average wow player deserves nothing better than a hammer to the kneecaps |
| 21:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Mr_Rabies2: SendAddonMessage("KLHTM", "t 23095820238", "RAID"); |
| 21:38.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | CTRA was just an example, because a lot of people have it :P |
| 21:38.56 | Cide | the average ___ deserves nothing better than a hammer to the kneecaps |
| 21:39.02 | Kaso | Cide, dont i remeber you saying you would set MT hp to random numbers on certain days as a joke :> |
| 21:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Boom, you have more threat than your MT ever will |
| 21:39.02 | Cide | Mr_Rabies2: they do? |
| 21:39.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | do they? |
| 21:39.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 21:39.16 | Cide | Kaso: never done that I'm afraid :) |
| 21:39.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | most guilds still require it last i heard |
| 21:39.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually have a macro which spoofs my KTM threat to random values. It's a fun macro. |
| 21:39.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:39.42 | Cide | but I have set up magical trevor videos playing in sync across the raid |
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| 21:39.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | JESUS CHRIST RAYBEEZ HOW DO YOU HAVE 130 THOUSAND THREAT ALREADY WHAT DID YOU DO |
| 21:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I have another which zeroes it out, and then I have another which toggles Omen publishing threat on/off |
| 21:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 21:40.01 | Cide | that'd be pro for the main tank |
| 21:40.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, the fun thing |
| 21:40.09 | Cide | 2000 tps? oh shit, you rock |
| 21:40.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Is to click the macro, wait a few seconds, and then zero it out |
| 21:40.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | omen said i was getting 900 the other day in kara |
| 21:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | On and off, over the course of a raid |
| 21:40.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have no clue how |
| 21:40.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually i max out at about 750 |
| 21:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i musta been critting like a machine or something |
| 21:40.36 | Kaso | then watch as all the dps classes get squished when they think they dont need to hold back Cide :> |
| 21:40.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I did that on Gruul trash... and got a few comments |
| 21:40.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | or it was just bugged out or something |
| 21:40.45 | Cide | exactly |
| 21:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | RL: "Anyone see Sbo at four million threat for a second there?" Guildie: "yeah" Guildie: "no..." Me: "..." |
| 21:41.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahahaha |
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| 21:41.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh jeez |
| 21:41.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to do that stuff |
| 21:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Omen, sadly, lacks a protocol that simple :( |
| 21:41.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love addons, don't get me wrong |
| 21:41.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | Loves them |
| 21:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise I'd be doing it to Omen too |
| 21:41.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but people that absolutely rely on them to consider everything that happens in combat need to wise up :x |
| 21:42.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's so many people that HAVE to use ktm or omen to not pull threat |
| 21:42.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, morons. |
| 21:42.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it helps me out when i want to ride the dps charts and take risks i normally wouldn't |
| 21:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I think such addons shouldn't exist - but my brother, when he raided |
| 21:42.33 | ScytheBlade1 | His entire guild decided that if you pull aggro, you're noob |
| 21:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And ditched threat meters all together |
| 21:42.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Funny thing... they killed Kel'Thuzad without a threat meter. /shock |
| 21:43.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i killed up to about.....Twin Emps without one |
| 21:43.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | didn't install one until omen arrived |
| 21:43.33 | Lej | and I guess there's no way to use UnitLevel() now when I can't target people? |
| 21:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | because KTM was both inaccurate and brought my fps to a slideshow |
| 21:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | UnitLevel("target") works fine |
| 21:43.57 | Kalroth | KTM is inaccurate? |
| 21:44.15 | Lej | ScytheBlade1: Ofc, but you missed what we were talking about earlier |
| 21:44.16 | |Jelly| | ...yeah |
| 21:44.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's global threat and not target based, so yes, among other things |
| 21:44.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lej: ah, sorry |
| 21:44.44 | Kalroth | Mr_Rabies: Sure, but it doesn't have the various bugs that Omen does |
| 21:44.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | omen's not perfectly accurate either, most of the threat values are arbitrary in both cases |
| 21:45.04 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.11 | Kalroth | No, I'm talking about actual bugs |
| 21:45.23 | Thunder_Child | ~popcorn |Jelly| |
| 21:45.29 | Thunder_Child | >< |
| 21:45.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never had omen be an issue except for minor problems when i download a new nightly that wasn't ready or something :O |
| 21:45.43 | Kalroth | We had a hunter pull aggro on RoS last week, he said he was at 50% of MT threat |
| 21:46.11 | Kalroth | bye ChanServ! |
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| 21:46.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | kalroth, there's so many factors involved that there's no way to really tell what caused it |
| 21:46.52 | Kalroth | I'm just saying that we've used KTM since BWL and the amount of bugs/inaccurancy has been very low |
| 21:47.08 | Kalroth | Even Twin Emps support was added very fast, not that you needed it much |
| 21:47.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just gets threat globally instead of on a per-target basis |
| 21:47.34 | [Liquidor] | Is there an addon to stop casting if trying to cast another spell? Like an auto-stopcasting mode? |
| 21:47.55 | Kalroth | Mr_Rabies: Which fights do you need multiple target threat information for? |
| 21:47.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and until their Combat Log overhaul, omen's got an issue that ktm also does |
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| 21:48.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | same-named targets being counted |
| 21:48.28 | Kalroth | Sure, no way to avoid that :) |
| 21:48.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | anything with adds, kalroth |
| 21:48.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 21:48.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope the combatlog overhaul hits soon |
| 21:48.53 | Kalroth | Mr_Rabies: I'm just trying to think of a fight where I've needed it and I can't think of any |
| 21:49.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | gruul's one |
| 21:49.08 | Kalroth | eh? |
| 21:49.13 | Kalroth | You mean Maulgar? |
| 21:49.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Only if you're melee. And that's only if your tank sucks. |
| 21:49.24 | |Jelly| | Are you the KTM author or something? You seem pretty adamant on wanting to change people's minds. |
| 21:49.27 | Kalroth | By the time the priest is dead all other tanks will have more than enough aggro |
| 21:49.36 | Kalroth | No, I'm not Kenco :) |
| 21:50.14 | zenzelezz | the KTM author is .au or something, isn't he? Oceanic anyway |
| 21:50.18 | Kalroth | I'm just seeing "Omen is bettar!!" as more of an Ace2 fanboyism than actual inaccurancy issues |
| 21:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Somewhat related. |
| 21:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Define "accuracy" |
| 21:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | "Use SWS, it's more accurate" |
| 21:50.39 | ScytheBlade1 | "Use Omen, it's more accurate" |
| 21:50.43 | ScytheBlade1 | HOW ARE YOU MEASURING THIS? |
| 21:50.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I've always wondered that |
| 21:51.05 | Kalroth | It doesn't need to be 100% accurate, no addon can be 100% accurate when it comes to combat log information |
| 21:51.20 | |Jelly| | You didn't answer the question though. |
| 21:51.21 | Kalroth | SWS is fine as long as everyone uses it |
| 21:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | How do you qualify "more accurate" though? |
| 21:51.38 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: As in less bugs |
| 21:51.49 | Kalroth | KTM got less bugs than Omen, that's more accurate. |
| 21:52.11 | |Jelly| | Can't remember the last time Omen bugged out on me. :\ |
| 21:52.14 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's "common knowledge" that Omen is "more accurate" when it comes down to the numbers on your screen |
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| 21:52.27 | [Liquidor] | ScytheBlade1, rofl |
| 21:52.30 | Kalroth | Except for what I just said to begin with |
| 21:52.41 | Kalroth | A hunter had 50% threat of the MT and still pulled aggro |
| 21:52.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Kalroth> You mean Maulgar? |
| 21:52.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, yeah |
| 21:53.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Kalroth> I'm just seeing "Omen is bettar!!" as more of an Ace2 fanboyism than actual inaccurancy issues |
| 21:53.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not an ace2 fanboy by any means, i just havent had any issues with omen, and ktm hurts my fps a ton |
| 21:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I honestly don't see how Maulgar could even possibly need a threat meter. The first add dies, and by then, everyone has enough aggro. |
| 21:53.48 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: Yup, that's what I said :) |
| 21:54.16 | [Liquidor] | Zomg, ChanServ down !! |
| 21:54.22 | Kalroth | We're 2 bosses away from Illidan and I've yet to encounter where I thought "Damn it could be handy to have threat seperated by multiple targets" |
| 21:54.30 | Kalroth | encounter a boss* |
| 21:54.41 | nevcairiel | on illidan you notice |
| 21:54.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:54.54 | nevcairiel | well |
| 21:54.57 | nevcairiel | depends on your class |
| 21:54.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Ignoring the entire "multiple mobs same name" problem - how do you know that Omen is accurate? How do you know that KTM is? How do you know that SWS is? What *exactly* allows you to call something "more accurate" or "less accurate" |
| 21:55.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I've always wondered that :/ |
| 21:55.12 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: It doesn't matter if they're 100% accurate |
| 21:55.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Kalroth: that's why I said "more" and "less" rather than simply "accurate" :) |
| 21:55.28 | |Jelly| | You keep dodging the question. |
| 21:55.34 | Kalroth | What question, Jelly? |
| 21:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | ScytheBlade1, omen's always seemed to be spot on for me |
| 21:55.43 | nevcairiel | ScytheBlade1: if you pull aggro in the same moment when you cross the 130% aggro line, you know its somewhat accurate |
| 21:55.53 | |Jelly| | [15:54]<ScytheBlade1>Ignoring the entire "multiple mobs same name" problem - how do you know that Omen is accurate? How do you know that KTM is? How do you know that SWS is? What *exactly* allows you to call something "more accurate" or "less accurate" |
| 21:55.53 | Kalroth | I already answered how I define accurancy |
| 21:55.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | yet i always hear people with ktm being like "WTF IT SAID I WAS AT 60% THREAT ZOMG" though both of these are just anecdotes |
| 21:56.05 | zenzelezz | my issue with KTM vs. Omen wasn't accuracy or separate mob threat lists (although I do like those), it was the way they both worked... Omen seemed less of a strain |
| 21:56.13 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: right. But KTM works the same way too. And more often than not, KTM and Omen are going to be giving you the same values. |
| 21:56.15 | Kalroth | Omen got bugs that makes it dump your threat values or just show wrong numbers |
| 21:56.19 | |Jelly| | So accuracy is having no bugs? Seems kind of like a silly answer to me. |
| 21:56.25 | Kalroth | I haven't experienced that with KTM in a long time |
| 21:56.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just prefer omen mostly because of the resource difference on my computer, and also like that it tracks threat across multiple targets |
| 21:56.32 | [Liquidor] | Anyone can read this message? |
| 21:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | [Liquidor]: no |
| 21:56.39 | |Jelly| | I've never experienced it with Omen. |
| 21:57.05 | Kalroth | Good for you then, but there's multiple forums with threads stating otherwise. And we're experiencing it on a weekly basis in our guild |
| 21:57.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a possibility they're using an old version of omen or its libraries, or any other huge number of things |
| 21:57.43 | |Jelly| | So instead of trying to find out why and perhaps fixing it, you're going to QQ and spout off that KTM > Omen? |
| 21:57.45 | nevcairiel | ScytheBlade1: they are both pretty accurate when it comes down to one boss, fights like illidari council, or karathresh, that consist of multiple "bosses", Omen is superior |
| 21:57.48 | Kalroth | And yes, most of use got Threat-1.0 installed, even if we don't have Omen |
| 21:57.49 | zenzelezz | Omen has issues from time to time, no denying that. I've yet to quite see a pattern, sometimes it seems to be an issue of KTM interoperability (KTM people being weird), other times it doesn't |
| 21:57.52 | [Liquidor] | Hunters of my guild are always complaining about Omen |
| 21:58.04 | Kalroth | |Jelly|: I'm stating things as I see them, best I can do. |
| 21:58.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i don't even bother with threat meters on bosses really |
| 21:58.11 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: agreed |
| 21:58.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the most part bosses aren't an issue unless they last a really really long time |
| 21:58.21 | zenzelezz | bit fun when no-one can see the MT on either meter, and he has to keep calling out his threat value |
| 21:58.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | or have some kind of gimmick |
| 21:58.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:58.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I have a threat meter installed becuase it's guild mandated. I don't pay attention to it though. |
| 21:58.51 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: As long as you don't pull aggro, it's fine. :) |
| 21:58.51 | |Jelly| | Mmmm. Popcorn. |
| 21:58.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually i use it on trash and stuff mostly |
| 21:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Kalroth: mage. Trust me, I know ;) |
| 21:59.02 | Kalroth | But MTs are very interested in their threat values |
| 21:59.10 | Kalroth | The more threat the do, the more dps the rest of us can do |
| 21:59.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, of course |
| 21:59.19 | ScytheBlade1 | But a question for you |
| 21:59.21 | nevcairiel | there are some fights where the raid leaders have to warn some people to go easy on dps |
| 21:59.25 | nevcairiel | but thats only a few |
| 21:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Would the MT need a number to know that he's doing his job correctly? |
| 21:59.44 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: Nope, it's just a tool to aid him. |
| 22:00.13 | [Liquidor] | Uhm none of you would happen to know of an addon doing /stopcasting on any spell cast? |
| 22:00.16 | Kalroth | But it's an important number. We've had MTs that couldn't pull 800 TPS to save their life. |
| 22:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | [Liquidor]: as of 2.0 that is no longer possible |
| 22:00.29 | Kalroth | [Liquidor]: On any spell cast? I don't think it's doable. |
| 22:01.01 | [Liquidor] | Kalroth, yeah... as in using /stopcasting on any cast |
| 22:01.03 | [Liquidor] | Oh well :-/ |
| 22:01.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | won't be necessary in 2.3 anyway |
| 22:01.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | which should be hitting tuesday |
| 22:01.20 | [Liquidor] | Mr_Rabies, I know, but it isn't 2.3 |
| 22:01.28 | nevcairiel | just wait 3 days |
| 22:01.31 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 22:01.39 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: CANT WAIT, NEED NOW! |
| 22:02.08 | [Liquidor] | Why wait? I just wanted to know if it was doable. |
| 22:02.18 | nevcairiel | get macros |
| 22:02.18 | AnduinLothar | i hate omen as a healer |
| 22:02.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not, but the good news is you won't need it in 3 days :O |
| 22:02.28 | [Liquidor] | Not like im gonna wait for flying cars just to cross the atlantic ocean |
| 22:02.29 | Kalroth | AnduinLothar: Why's that? |
| 22:02.40 | AnduinLothar | i'm constantly retargettign and never see any important info on the mt and their agro |
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| 22:02.51 | |Jelly| | L2Clique? |
| 22:02.54 | Kalroth | Healers really shouldn't be worrying about aggro :) |
| 22:03.07 | AnduinLothar | heal tanks do |
| 22:03.09 | nevcairiel | ya it jumps alot on healers :P |
| 22:03.10 | Kalroth | Only fight where our healers get BoS is Bloodboil and that's mainly our resident CoH whore :) |
| 22:03.11 | ScytheBlade1 | The only time healers need to worry are pretty obvious (Hydross) |
| 22:03.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on the spec and gear, really |
| 22:03.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | and fight |
| 22:03.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | :X |
| 22:03.26 | nevcairiel | but if you heal dps or tanks, it shows mob threat |
| 22:03.28 | nevcairiel | so thats fine |
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| 22:03.45 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: Depends on how you do it, but I guess a crit landing on MT right at switch can be bad |
| 22:03.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | healing without sublety as a druid is a fun way to meet your spirit healer |
| 22:03.51 | nevcairiel | hey ChanServ, good to see you back here |
| 22:03.51 | AnduinLothar | i heal tank tidewalker and use heal agro to pull naga and striders |
| 22:04.03 | [Liquidor] | L2Fade |
| 22:04.05 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: We've never had healer aggro issues on Hydross though |
| 22:04.09 | Lunessa | I think this is my new "message" to guildees QQing over raiding requirements - " Raiding is optional; Should you opt in, success has baseline requirements. Failure has none. " |
| 22:04.24 | Kalroth | AnduinLothar: Yup, same here. We put a tincan in the middle of Vashj with RF |
| 22:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just saying that healers don't need to pay attention to threat, and the only times that they would, is is pretty obvious |
| 22:04.36 | bleeter | *usual loot roll rule foo |
| 22:04.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | bleeter: public humiliation tends to learn people some sense |
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| 22:05.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i felt bad for publicly humiliating someone once though |
| 22:05.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | they KS'd a mob i was waiting to spawn and kept having KS'd from me in zangarmarsh |
| 22:05.38 | AnduinLothar | i also constantly respec prot and ret, so i don't wanna disable omen when ehaling >.< |
| 22:05.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i called them out and /ignored them |
| 22:06.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently she was trying to help me and couldn't get the invite out fast enough and i made her cry :x |
| 22:06.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i kept calling them out for like 15 minutes while they were explaining themselves but i had them ignored |
| 22:06.28 | Kalroth | hahaha |
| 22:06.42 | Kalroth | You're a big meanie, Mr_Rabies! |
| 22:06.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i felt terrible afterwards |
| 22:07.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i helped her kill some stuff and tried to patch things up because the last thing i want to do is be an asshole to someone undeserving |
| 22:07.25 | |Jelly| | !c us argent dawn stelfor |
| 22:07.27 | ThraeBot | |Jelly|: Stelfor, Level 52 Human Rogue (22/8/13). 2295 HP; 421 AP; 93.300 Melee DPS; 14.63% melee crit; 23.39% dodge;[[ TBR: 892 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoghhe ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xv2ot ][ Updated: Sat Nov 10 13:12:33 2007 EST ]] |
| 22:08.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a tremendous asshole to people who are deserving of it though |
| 22:08.33 | |Jelly| | I'm just an asshole. :\ |
| 22:08.35 | Industrial | I wonder; is running wow in windowed maximized mode equal to full screen mode? |
| 22:08.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just misread someone's intentions and came across as a jerk and felt terrible :[ |
| 22:08.39 | Duman | lol |
| 22:08.44 | Duman | yeah, I hate that |
| 22:08.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | Industrial, depends on the system |
| 22:08.47 | Kalroth | Industrial: Not quite |
| 22:08.50 | Industrial | I keep crashing when I'm in foll screen and alt tab - wich happens every 30 seconds |
| 22:08.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | some people get much worse performance on it |
| 22:08.53 | Industrial | windows xp |
| 22:08.57 | Kalroth | Industrial: You can alt+tab a lot faster with it ;) |
| 22:09.02 | Lunessa | I feel a Dennis Leary song coming on... |
| 22:09.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | a lot of people don't have much issue |
| 22:09.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm an assholioliolioooooooooooo |
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| 22:09.19 | Duman | I run fullscreen, no issues... alt-tab a lot |
| 22:09.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i drive really slow through the ultra-fast lane |
| 22:09.29 | Industrial | I alt tab ALOT for guides, wowhea,d, irc etc. like non stop when im on the move. When i'm in full screen and I alt tab "too fast" I get wow to crash much |
| 22:09.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn it's been a long time since i've heard that song |
| 22:09.38 | zenzelezz | if windowed + maximized was equal to fullscreen, they wouldn't have an option for it |
| 22:09.53 | Industrial | :P true |
| 22:09.56 | zenzelezz | true fullscreen does some special stuff to the DirectX surface |
| 22:10.09 | Lunessa | 'cause we've got the bombs!' |
| 22:10.10 | zenzelezz | but unless you have a slow system, the difference isn't very big |
| 22:10.14 | |Jelly| | I have the Doom Song stuck in my head. :\ |
| 22:10.20 | Duman | if you're crashing consistently on alt-tab, ensure you have the latest video card drivers for your card |
| 22:10.24 | Industrial | |Jelly|: I sawed the demons? :P |
| 22:10.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | from invader zim? |
| 22:10.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | or like |
| 22:10.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | from doom |
| 22:10.35 | |Jelly| | Rabies: Yes |
| 22:10.35 | Industrial | Duman: I do |
| 22:10.39 | |Jelly| | Zim |
| 22:10.40 | Duman | whichc ard are you using? |
| 22:10.52 | Industrial | Geforce 7900GT |
| 22:11.44 | Duman | and you're running the latest forceware driver? |
| 22:11.48 | Duman | 163.71 or something |
| 22:12.14 | Duman | oops, new one out |
| 22:12.14 | Duman | Version: 163.75 |
| 22:12.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought you meant some of the music from the game, which is awesome |
| 22:12.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't find the full original level 1 track,but i found this: http://doomisalotofmetal.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:12.34 | Duman | Industrial: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_163.75.html |
| 22:12.38 | Industrial | Duman: lemme try just in case :P |
| 22:13.12 | Industrial | I dont see how something that didnt do that 4 months ago would do so now.. wow changed that much? |
| 22:13.21 | Industrial | (with the same driver that is) |
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| 22:14.39 | Industrial | HO SHI-2.36MB/s |
| 22:14.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | bytes or bits |
| 22:14.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is so confusing |
| 22:14.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
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| 22:15.35 | kd3 | capital B is bytes |
| 22:15.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually |
| 22:16.14 | Industrial | yes bytes :D |
| 22:16.15 | nevcairiel | i tend to write MBit if i mean that |
| 22:16.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, it's supposed to be |
| 22:16.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but you never really know |
| 22:16.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 22:16.25 | Duman | bad, use Mbps :) |
| 22:16.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually say mbit |
| 22:16.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i mean bits |
| 22:16.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | just to be fully clear |
| 22:16.41 | Lej | millibit? |
| 22:16.46 | Duman | hehe |
| 22:16.57 | Duman | pbps... picobits per second! |
| 22:17.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, because millibits don't exist |
| 22:17.03 | Industrial | urmombyte(s) :3 |
| 22:17.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | industrial why can't i stop listening to freezepop |
| 22:17.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | halp |
| 22:17.33 | Lej | aw, I like by broken bits :( |
| 22:17.35 | Industrial | freezepop :o |
| 22:17.45 | Lej | millibits per second can exist tho |
| 22:18.27 | Lej | would just mean it transfers 1 bit every 1000 second -_- |
| 22:18.35 | Industrial | love this song on stepmania :3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5xbDQvzq2Q |
| 22:18.38 | Industrial | haste: ^ |
| 22:18.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | this song is so soothing |
| 22:18.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | Now Playing: Freezepop - Swimming Pool [06:56m/320Kbps/44KHz] |
| 22:19.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's fun on GH2, also, indy |
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| 22:19.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | (freezepop has at least one band member in harmonix, who developed it) |
| 22:19.19 | haste | Industrial: already played it D: |
| 22:20.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfRaqQQ9-UE is really catchy too (i couldn't find any decent non-GH videos of it) |
| 22:22.33 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies2: I've kinda let them off... guildie, and balance druid. he says finding stuff suitable for him is being difficult... seems might have to spend some time with him helping out ;) |
| 22:24.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | let who off now |
| 22:24.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | or is that a colloquialism i'm not aware of :[ |
| 22:25.40 | bleeter | the druid who rolled need on the mage set helm :P |
| 22:25.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhh |
| 22:26.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, balance gear is really hard to find, but set pieces are generally something you pass on regardless and see if anyone needs |
| 22:26.33 | bleeter | yeah |
| 22:26.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially if it's not your armor class |
| 22:27.00 | bleeter | anyways, I've had a chat to the guy's room-mate, who's gunna explain it so he don't feel worse than he already does hehe |
| 22:27.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it was an honest mistake i don't see an issue |
| 22:27.33 | foxlit | there's an actual non-set balance druid set in the dungeons |
| 22:28.23 | nevcairiel | its true |
| 22:28.23 | nevcairiel | in t2 style |
| 22:28.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i did something like that and want to make it fair and square i'd can chuck off a shard to the mage |
| 22:28.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | oftentimes i chuck shards off to people on gear i want and they think i disenchant it |
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| 22:28.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i have a huge surplus of the things |
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| 22:35.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've officially lost all my metal cred |
| 22:35.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | Now Playing: Freezepop - Pop Music is Not a Crime [03:52m/256Kbps/44KHz] |
| 22:35.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's why^ |
| 22:36.39 | zenzelezz | they're right, it's not a crime... it's a sin |
| 22:36.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | not when it's freezepop |
| 22:37.30 | Industrial | < Mr_Rabies2> i've officially lost all my metal cred |
| 22:37.30 | Industrial | lmao |
| 22:37.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | freezepop isn't really pop, it's almost like rock only minus a guitar and plus a keytar |
| 22:37.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | "synthpop" says wikipedia |
| 22:37.54 | Industrial | I love the "my metal is the true metal, yours sucks |
| 22:37.59 | Industrial | " in the metal scene |
| 22:38.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i've never been a subscriber to that |
| 22:38.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just like metal in general |
| 22:38.23 | haste | do you like drone metal also :D ? |
| 22:38.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't really like death metal or black metal |
| 22:38.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but what's drone metal |
| 22:38.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 22:38.44 | Industrial | ah see, I prefer melodic death metal :P |
| 22:38.47 | haste | atmospheric metal |
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| 22:38.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly because of the vocals on death metal |
| 22:39.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love the music and melodies but the vocals are too grating for me |
| 22:39.02 | Industrial | and I really dislike things like slayer |
| 22:39.05 | haste | http://youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4 << you'll hate it |
| 22:39.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like slayer :D |
| 22:39.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 22:39.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | some of their songs |
| 22:39.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | raining blood's my alltime favorite though :O |
| 22:39.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | by them, not in general |
| 22:40.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | my favorite of all time could be any huge number of metallica songs |
| 22:40.17 | Cidan | I'm sorry to hear that. |
| 22:40.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | possibly call of ktulu, i derno |
| 22:40.29 | Cidan | Perhaps one day you'll actually like real music. |
| 22:40.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay haste he broke out a trombone |
| 22:40.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm kinda afraid |
| 22:40.44 | Industrial | lol what |
| 22:40.47 | Industrial | *watches* |
| 22:41.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't mind it for like |
| 22:41.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | a soundtrack for like |
| 22:41.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | a movie or game or something |
| 22:41.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but to listen to...it's too ambient so far |
| 22:41.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's very silent hill-ish |
| 22:42.03 | Fisker- | anyone up for coop heroin hero |
| 22:42.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | is the 0))) in their logo a guy holding a pick :O |
| 22:42.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | a fuckin' trombone, i'm so confused |
| 22:42.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like, music is going to start, and looks like it's going |
| 22:43.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but someone accidentally replaced the soundtrack with silent hill noises |
| 22:43.20 | haste | :D |
| 22:43.44 | Industrial | http://youtube.com/watch?v=wMGpcjzb67Q |
| 22:43.51 | Industrial | srsly, a hot blonde. |
| 22:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. I know a guy who rickrolled his friend... wrote a bash script to replace everything past the :30 marker in his MP3s with Rick Astley. |
| 22:44.07 | Industrial | best thing since sliced bread. |
| 22:44.24 | foxlit | I wonder |
| 22:44.33 | Industrial | metal AND babes, its wonderful :o |
| 22:44.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so hilarious to hear like |
| 22:44.40 | foxlit | Actually parse the MP3 format, or just insert junk data past some point? |
| 22:44.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corpsegrinder talking outside of cannibal corpse |
| 22:44.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | he sounds like a hick/nerd |
| 22:44.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | then he starts singing |
| 22:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's like GROOOOOOWL GRRR RAAAAAAAR |
| 22:45.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think he's a werewolf |
| 22:45.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | as is this chick |
| 22:45.33 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 22:45.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine her yelling at you because you forgot to put the toilet seat down |
| 22:45.43 | haste | Mr_Rabies2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=54GUbY32CwM << I know you don't like black metal, but that song is honestly the single greatest metal song of all times (imo at least :D) |
| 22:45.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm honestly afraid of this woman |
| 22:45.56 | Industrial | heh |
| 22:46.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | hey look wolves, haste |
| 22:46.07 | haste | :D |
| 22:46.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | is the person who uploaded this a furry, or just a huge nerd |
| 22:46.27 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: imagine the sex games o_O |
| 22:46.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | wolves basically mean one or the other |
| 22:47.09 | haste | I would guess nerd in that case |
| 22:47.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | haste, have you heard of Dethklok/Metalocalypse :O |
| 22:47.19 | Cidan | df -h |
| 22:47.21 | Cidan | er |
| 22:47.23 | Cidan | wrong window |
| 22:47.24 | Cidan | :x |
| 22:47.41 | haste | Mr_Rabies2: possibly |
| 22:47.45 | Fisker- | what the fuck is that shit_ |
| 22:47.46 | Fisker- | ? |
| 22:47.50 | Fisker- | sounds like white noise |
| 22:47.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=2TghMv5gaDw |
| 22:48.01 | Fisker- | for some reason i want to commit suicide now |
| 22:48.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | It's a comedy show on Adult Swim, but the guy that does the music is awesome |
| 22:48.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | Brendon Small is probably one of the most talented musicians and voice actors and writers and etc etc ever |
| 22:49.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and yes the lyrics are supposed to be incredibly cheesy |
| 22:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's part of the point :P |
| 22:49.56 | haste | too little feeling in that song :( |
| 22:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's one guy |
| 22:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | doing all the music except the drums |
| 22:51.31 | haste | so was windir |
| 22:51.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | which are Gene Holgan from uh..... |
| 22:52.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Hoglan |
| 22:52.06 | Lunessa | Nothing like seeing a "Looking for Guild" posting in your realm forum from an ex-guildee and having it completely confirm your (low) opinion of them. |
| 22:52.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | that |
| 22:52.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but yeah, it's one guy that does a comedy show, haste |
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| 22:57.25 | Industrial | couldnt find a normal album version / clip; http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nwb2St7tbi4 |
| 22:57.34 | Industrial | the agony scene - the darkest red |
| 22:58.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe, hellsing ultimate |
| 22:58.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | hellsing + metal matches pretty well |
| 22:59.12 | haste | I like the rockish sound they have in the initial series |
| 22:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a big fan of cheesy cheesy power metal |
| 22:59.55 | Industrial | oh like |
| 22:59.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just accept the cheesiness and don't take my music seriously |
| 22:59.58 | Industrial | dragonforce? |
| 23:00.03 | Industrial | =D |
| 23:00.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, dragonforce, and they're cheesy as hell |
| 23:00.48 | Industrial | seriously every one of their songs has "flying high through the sky over the mountains and the seas into the wastelands" in it. |
| 23:00.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | dude |
| 23:01.04 | Industrial | xD |
| 23:01.05 | haste | lol |
| 23:01.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | for dragonforce you can pretty much use the following words and make one |
| 23:01.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | burning, fire, dragon, furious, mountains, seas, over, under |
| 23:01.34 | Industrial | lmao |
| 23:01.34 | haste | through |
| 23:01.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | power metal in general is pretty much like that |
| 23:01.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | but who cares |
| 23:01.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 23:01.52 | Industrial | indeed, its POWER METAL. |
| 23:01.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=vyrA0UAvgx0 |
| 23:02.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's continuing the legacy of iron maiden |
| 23:02.23 | Industrial | oh dream evil - break the chains |
| 23:02.24 | Industrial | good song |
| 23:02.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 23:02.41 | haste | for some reason, edguy comes to mind |
| 23:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only other person i've known to have heard of dream evil |
| 23:03.09 | haste | I thought dream evil was pretty well known :o |
| 23:03.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z3gIhsOFamM |
| 23:03.22 | Industrial | beack when pandora radio was still available to everyone I used to have a power metal station |
| 23:03.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | this song makes me want to go out and defend the honor of my village |
| 23:03.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | me too, indy |
| 23:03.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still do :O |
| 23:03.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also have one for crazy viking metal and stuff |
| 23:03.42 | Industrial | im not in the us/uk :< tried proxying but didnt work |
| 23:03.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | with korplikaani and stuff |
| 23:03.50 | Industrial | it really slects good music for you |
| 23:03.53 | Industrial | hehe |
| 23:04.21 | Industrial | selects* |
| 23:04.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 23:04.21 | haste | Mr_Rabies2: that's the song I connect with dream evil :p |
| 23:04.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | haste, not in the US |
| 23:04.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one has heard of dream evil |
| 23:04.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | like |
| 23:04.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one |
| 23:04.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i show them and they're either like "that's cheesy as fuck" or they're like "HOLY SHIT THIS IS EPIC" |
| 23:05.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | it can be cheesy AND epic, dammit |
| 23:05.27 | cogwheel | When I posted that, I thought to my self " |Jelly| needs to say 'yes'" |
| 23:05.35 | |Jelly| | You knew I would... |
| 23:06.28 | haste | Mr_Rabies2: how about kamelot? same thing as with dream evil? |
| 23:06.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like them alright, yeah |
| 23:06.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 23:06.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean interms of being well known |
| 23:06.51 | haste | yes |
| 23:06.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really, not outside of people who are REALLY into metal |
| 23:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | more well known than dream evil at least |
| 23:07.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, even huge metal fans have never heard of them |
| 23:07.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of power metal and warcraft |
| 23:07.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | you HAVE to watch this pvp video |
| 23:07.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1393677960885570768 |
| 23:07.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's amazing |
| 23:07.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's all i can say about it |
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| 23:08.16 | foxlit | xkcd comic, alt-text referencing a song from the Kill Bill soundtrack. Go. |
| 23:08.17 | haste | and old :D |
| 23:08.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | adys needs to watch it too |
| 23:08.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1393677960885570768 |
| 23:08.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | one sec foxlit |
| 23:08.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://xkcd.com/337/ |
| 23:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | what about it |
| 23:09.13 | foxlit | Wanted the name of the song |
| 23:09.19 | foxlit | What did you use to find it? :P |
| 23:09.39 | Fisker- | fucking win Mr_Rabies |
| 23:10.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | foxlit |
| 23:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | the back button |
| 23:10.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and manually typing it in |
| 23:10.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | xkcd.com and hit back a few times :O |
| 23:10.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's only 3 issues back |
| 23:10.36 | foxlit | Too lazy to hit back four times! |
| 23:10.37 | cogwheel | I swear to whatever you believe in that i just got this in an e-mail: |
| 23:10.38 | cogwheel | Your rebate submission has been approved. Your $0.00 rebate check is being processed and will be mailed shortly. You should receive your check in approximately 2 to 4 weeks. |
| 23:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | cogwheel |
| 23:10.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you get a rebate check for 0.00 |
| 23:11.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna laugh so fucking hard |
| 23:11.21 | cogwheel | i'm gonna be incredibly pissed |
| 23:11.36 | cogwheel | it's supposed to be $100 |
| 23:11.38 | *** join/#wowi-lounge anko (n=root@32.137.86.63) |
| 23:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | the rebate system needs some serious reform |
| 23:12.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | like 50% of the time it either straight up doesn't work or something goes wrong |
| 23:12.16 | cogwheel | nah |
| 23:12.33 | cogwheel | i've only had one problem and it was pretty much my fault |
| 23:12.46 | cogwheel | and i do lots of rebates |
| 23:13.13 | Kelfarr | kd3 you are wrong!!!! |
| 23:13.15 | Lunessa | rebates - give us money today and take our product, and sometime in the next 90 days, if you do everything right, we'll give you some money back. |
| 23:13.28 | cogwheel | it's still your choice |
| 23:13.42 | Lunessa | I agree. It's just a good system for encouraging people to buy. |
| 23:13.44 | cogwheel | you could buy something cheaper and you'd have the $100 |
| 23:14.08 | Lunessa | Most people never bother to claim rebates anyway. |
| 23:14.14 | cogwheel | yep |
| 23:14.20 | cogwheel | that's why they're able to do it |
| 23:14.42 | AnduinLothar | i hate rebates with a passion |
| 23:14.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | not to mention that most times the markup's still so high it doesn't hurt them |
| 23:14.50 | Lunessa | Now... the little signs in stores/ads that show the *after $50 mail-in rebate claim are slightly misleading. |
| 23:14.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're still making profit off a huge rebate a lot of time |
| 23:15.02 | Tierrie_ | i like instant rebates |
| 23:15.16 | cogwheel | Tierrie_: that's another marketing gimick |
| 23:15.20 | Tierrie_ | i know :( |
| 23:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | instant rebates are dying out |
| 23:15.24 | AnduinLothar | why dont they call it discount.. |
| 23:15.31 | cogwheel | they're taking advantage of peoples' annoyance with rebates |
| 23:15.37 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: ever heard of Cadacross? |
| 23:15.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 23:15.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that a band |
| 23:15.44 | cogwheel | s/s'/'s/ |
| 23:15.47 | Industrial | yes |
| 23:15.51 | Industrial | its in here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSdxwTOJJfw |
| 23:15.53 | Tierrie_ | i live in the bay area right? where all these cheap hardware companies are |
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| 23:16.08 | Tierrie_ | they found a company that doesn't even process their rebates |
| 23:16.11 | Tierrie_ | just throws it out back |
| 23:16.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | listening to "bring out your dead" atm |
| 23:16.18 | Industrial | whats a rebate :P |
| 23:16.28 | cogwheel | Tierrie_: that's when you sue |
| 23:16.42 | cogwheel | mail fraud |
| 23:16.48 | cogwheel | among other felonys |
| 23:16.52 | cogwheel | s/y/ie/ |
| 23:17.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do so many bands have to have awesome guitars and everything |
| 23:17.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then the vocals start and it makes me want to cry |
| 23:17.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | like archeon here |
| 23:17.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything was amazing until the vocals started |
| 23:17.37 | Tierrie_ | can't sue what went out of business |
| 23:17.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | awesome drums, awesome bass, awesome guitar |
| 23:17.47 | Tierrie_ | they just folded i think |
| 23:17.47 | Industrial | yeah I wouldnt mind death metal with eg kamelot vocals :P |
| 23:17.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | then the singer started up |
| 23:18.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the song went sour |
| 23:18.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | or instrumentals, Industrial |
| 23:18.17 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't like in flames, except their instrumentals |
| 23:18.36 | Industrial | :O In Flames = king |
| 23:18.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | so far cadacross reminds me of dream theater or liquid tension experiment |
| 23:18.51 | Industrial | I generally don't listen to the vocals anyway >_O |
| 23:18.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not about the lyrical content |
| 23:19.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's about the style |
| 23:19.03 | Industrial | I guess because english isnt my motherlanguage I don't mind as much. |
| 23:19.04 | haste | Industrial: the vocal is just another instrument |
| 23:19.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh and the vocal styles make me cry |
| 23:19.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 23:19.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it doesn't matter what language it's in, to me |
| 23:19.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't really listen to the lyrics, just the style usually |
| 23:19.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless the lyrics are awesome or hilarious |
| 23:20.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a huge fan of demons + wizards though |
| 23:20.37 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 23:20.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | blind guardian + iced earth = thank you sir, may i have another |
| 23:20.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dhYrLQmRlQ |
| 23:20.50 | Industrial | yeah |
| 23:20.58 | Industrial | I dno't really like those either |
| 23:21.06 | Industrial | oh, Dark Moor. I really like that |
| 23:21.09 | Industrial | before they reformed though |
| 23:21.15 | Industrial | (unknown spanish band) |
| 23:21.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love those two bands, iced earth's guitars and stuff, and blind guardian's vocals |
| 23:21.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | so demons and wizards is like instant metalsplosion |
| 23:22.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh yeah |
| 23:22.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | that reminds me of this |
| 23:22.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know the guy that does dethklok/metalocalypse, well he does music on other stuff too in different styles |
| 23:22.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | and this one, this one's amazing |
| 23:22.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkURhQ9FOqU |
| 23:22.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | the lyrics |
| 23:22.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | are just awesome |
| 23:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | if we did, we'd buy watches, but we're so stupid we'd just eat them and be late for things... LIKE BITING YOUR HEAD |
| 23:24.55 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6067554769394532603 |
| 23:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | is that cthulu |
| 23:26.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like dark moor pretty good |
| 23:26.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather have accented understandable vocals that raaargh growl growl for the most part |
| 23:27.04 | Industrial | btw heres the worst metal bands name ever. totally NSFW if you are going to click this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhsbsU3JO0c |
| 23:27.11 | Industrial | band's* |
| 23:27.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 23:27.22 | cogwheel | Mr_Rabies2: should've read the fine print... It's $10 off my bill for 10 months >< |
| 23:27.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | nice job ya scrub |
| 23:27.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | lern2lawyer |
| 23:27.59 | cogwheel | i intend to |
| 23:28.04 | cogwheel | next year |
| 23:28.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i meant learn2lawyerspeak |
| 23:28.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | but yeah |
| 23:28.13 | AnduinLothar | so... has anyone noticed that hits for > 10k aren't being shown by blizzard's sct? |
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| 23:28.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i read that shit like i'm signing away my soul |
| 23:28.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i very well might be |
| 23:29.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | haste / Industrial: http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=93300dea0930b9030919085725108173 |
| 23:29.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | all metal shows should be that epic |
| 23:29.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | (that's one guy and a drum machine there) |
| 23:29.31 | AnduinLothar | i have a video of me tanking the bear boss in ZA where my portait says i was hit once for 12228 and once for 11877 and neith one showed up in the scrollign combat text above my head |
| 23:29.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | he got a real drummer for the album |
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| 23:30.52 | Tem | woot |
| 23:30.55 | Tem | ohio lost |
| 23:31.14 | Tem | now we just have to not screw it up for ourselves |
| 23:32.54 | Elessdy | you'd better train hard, Tem |
| 23:33.06 | Tem | lawl |
| 23:33.40 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: lol wow on last vid |
| 23:33.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love this show |
| 23:33.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so awesome |
| 23:34.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 episodes and not a one is bad ;O |
| 23:34.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | here's another clip, indy |
| 23:34.33 | Elessdy | my computer doesn't seem to deal with antialiasing very well :( |
| 23:34.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=01590a9ad0359002ffb958301201e02c (backstory, last year they destroyed finland and are apologizing and trying to fix PR) |
| 23:35.34 | haste | hmm, it started playing death note now D: |
| 23:36.03 | haste | and it's dubbed D: |
| 23:36.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yup |
| 23:36.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the dubbing wasn't too bad for the 15 minutes or so i saw of it |
| 23:37.12 | haste | ryuk sounded pretty bad at least |
| 23:37.19 | Industrial | heh |
| 23:37.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh hey, the full episode's up |
| 23:37.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c39212ba04160112ba3f745b005e |
| 23:37.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | just watch that episode, it's aaaawesome |
| 23:37.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | (the troll's voiced by james hetfield) |
| 23:38.57 | Corrodias | what i wonder |
| 23:39.14 | Corrodias | what i wonder is why the site decides i need to watch some anime intro after every video |
| 23:39.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder when you'll SHUT YOUR FACE, Corrodias >:[ |
| 23:39.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | also, hi Corrodias |
| 23:39.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 23:45.17 | Thunder_Child | Plot Keywords: |
| 23:45.17 | Thunder_Child | Blood Splatter / Gore / Stabbed In The Neck / Stabbed In The Chest / Throat Slitting |
| 23:45.41 | cogwheel | sounds like something my wife would want to watch |
| 23:45.54 | Thunder_Child | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0175526/keywords |
| 23:47.51 | cogwheel | yeah i think we may have seen it :P |
| 23:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that keyword list is AMAZING |
| 23:48.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | T.S. Eliot outta fucking nowhere |
| 23:49.21 | Thunder_Child | well it came out of somewhere.... |
| 23:49.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mother |
| 23:49.39 | LuaBot | Mr_Rabies2, no ur mother! |
| 23:49.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 23:50.08 | Mike-N-Go | I have a strange bug, when the house phone rings, my internet gains a lag spike. |
| 23:50.19 | Thunder_Child | dsl? |
| 23:51.07 | cogwheel | ungh... next-wall neighbors are having a b-day party... |
| 23:51.14 | cogwheel | for their 5-year-old |
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| 23:51.22 | Thunder_Child | thats nice |
| 23:51.27 | Rayne | oh so you get to hear them going "YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY" |
| 23:51.31 | Rayne | all the time right? |
| 23:51.44 | Thunder_Child | yes, it't nice to hear children having fun |
| 23:51.50 | Thunder_Child | all to often they dont |
| 23:52.04 | Corrodias | they don't if i have anything to do with it. but i never do. :( |
| 23:52.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, Mike-N-Go, DSL or VOIP? :o |
| 23:52.52 | Mike-N-Go | THey are not connected. |
| 23:53.04 | Mike-N-Go | Our phone and internet are on diffrent systems. |
| 23:53.07 | Corrodias | there must be some kind of interference |
| 23:53.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | you don't have dsl and it's doing that? |
| 23:53.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 23:53.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | weird |
| 23:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 23:53.22 | Thunder_Child | your still using the same copper pipes |
| 23:53.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | different line, hrm |
| 23:53.41 | Thunder_Child | i doubt you multiple phone lines to the district office |
| 23:53.49 | Corrodias | it's copper tubes |
| 23:53.49 | Thunder_Child | s/you/you have/ |
| 23:54.34 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias...i say pipes...you dont say 1500 gb/s is a fate tube...you call it a fat pipe |
| 23:54.41 | Thunder_Child | s/fate/fat/ |
| 23:55.32 | Corrodias | sorry, man. the internet is tubes. you can't hide your feelings. |
| 23:55.33 | Mike-N-Go | Internet is on a wifi relay. |
| 23:55.47 | Corrodias | i mean... you can't deny the truth? is that the right cliche? |
| 23:55.50 | Thunder_Child | Mike-N-Go, wireless phones then? |
| 23:56.05 | Mike-N-Go | WiFi, as in a bridge. |
| 23:56.14 | Mike-N-Go | And we do have wireless phones. |
| 23:57.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | any 2.4 GHz ones? |
| 23:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | assuming you're on b or g |
| 23:57.19 | Thunder_Child | hmm...wireless net...wireless phones....may have an issue |
| 23:57.34 | Thunder_Child | not to hard to find n |
| 23:57.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're on N i think 5.8 phones MIGHT interfere but i think N has some stuff that helps with that |
| 23:58.14 | Corrodias | damn passworded .rar files. i didn't notice any password in the post! |
| 23:58.22 | Thunder_Child | so crack it |
| 23:58.51 | Thunder_Child | stupid 16gb install file for this game |
| 23:59.06 | Thunder_Child | s/6/3/ |
| 23:59.24 | Duman | oh, rad, purl will autoreplace for you? haha |
| 23:59.48 | Duman | s/o/0/g |
| 23:59.54 | Duman | w0rd |
